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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:04,148 --> 00:01:05,483 In our suburbs, 2 00:01:05,525 --> 00:01:09,529 evil lurks behind closed doors... 3 00:01:09,570 --> 00:01:14,659 True stories so terrifying because the horror is real. 4 00:01:14,700 --> 00:01:18,413 You will never look at your neighbors the same way again. 5 00:01:18,454 --> 00:01:20,456 I'm John Carpenter, 6 00:01:20,498 --> 00:01:23,000 and this is "Suburban Screams." 7 00:01:28,047 --> 00:01:32,510 I told my wife, he's in a maximum security prison. 8 00:01:32,552 --> 00:01:34,053 He's not getting out. 9 00:01:34,095 --> 00:01:37,140 What I didn't tell her was, if he does get out, 10 00:01:37,181 --> 00:01:38,474 we'll have to run. 11 00:01:38,516 --> 00:01:40,309 We won't have any choice. 12 00:01:50,486 --> 00:01:52,822 My name is Rick MacLean. 13 00:01:52,864 --> 00:01:56,826 I grew up in the city of Miramichi in New Brunswick. 14 00:01:59,036 --> 00:02:01,414 Miramichi was a sort of middle class, 15 00:02:01,456 --> 00:02:04,876 working class kind of community. 16 00:02:04,917 --> 00:02:07,420 It was quiet. It was peaceful. 17 00:02:07,462 --> 00:02:10,214 And people knew each other's business. 18 00:02:10,256 --> 00:02:12,550 They knew if there was trouble at home. 19 00:02:12,592 --> 00:02:14,677 They knew if the kids were being bad. 20 00:02:16,888 --> 00:02:21,642 My name is David Cadogan. I moved to Miramichi in 1976. 21 00:02:24,062 --> 00:02:28,775 I found Miramichiers to be the kindest, most generous people 22 00:02:28,816 --> 00:02:30,860 that I'd ever run into anywhere. 23 00:02:30,902 --> 00:02:32,403 And they still are. 24 00:02:32,445 --> 00:02:33,905 Everyone's dying to escape 25 00:02:33,946 --> 00:02:35,823 to one of Canada's best kept secrets. 26 00:02:41,496 --> 00:02:44,165 When my father and I bought our first paper there, 27 00:02:44,207 --> 00:02:47,710 we had to build the whole business from the ground up, 28 00:02:47,752 --> 00:02:48,878 pretty much. 29 00:02:48,920 --> 00:02:50,296 I went to Manpower. 30 00:02:50,338 --> 00:02:53,049 And I said, look, I said, I need somebody 31 00:02:53,091 --> 00:02:54,634 that I can teach to be a reporter. 32 00:02:54,675 --> 00:02:56,260 When Rick turned up. 33 00:02:56,302 --> 00:02:57,821 He said, I think this is the kind of guy 34 00:02:57,845 --> 00:03:01,265 that Dave might be looking for, sent him to see me. 35 00:03:01,307 --> 00:03:03,243 The first words I remember out of his mouth were, 36 00:03:03,267 --> 00:03:05,144 who the fuck are you? 37 00:03:05,186 --> 00:03:07,230 And I said, Rick MacLean. 38 00:03:07,271 --> 00:03:09,690 I'd like to interview for the reporter's job. 39 00:03:09,732 --> 00:03:11,401 We sat down and we talked. 40 00:03:11,442 --> 00:03:15,321 And 15 minutes later, he went to work. 41 00:03:15,363 --> 00:03:18,533 So I worked at the newspaper for a few months. 42 00:03:18,574 --> 00:03:20,410 At one point, Dave asked, 43 00:03:20,451 --> 00:03:22,412 where do you see yourself in five years? 44 00:03:22,453 --> 00:03:23,913 And I never missed a beat. 45 00:03:23,955 --> 00:03:25,474 I looked him right in the eye, and I said, 46 00:03:25,498 --> 00:03:27,417 I see me doing your job in five years. 47 00:03:27,458 --> 00:03:29,460 And he howled with laughter. 48 00:03:29,502 --> 00:03:32,088 That's how I ended up the editor of the newspaper. 49 00:03:32,130 --> 00:03:35,758 You need an editor with a killer instinct, really. 50 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,094 And he was just brilliant at that. 51 00:03:38,136 --> 00:03:42,932 Rick could be quite bloodless when he was on the hunt. 52 00:03:49,856 --> 00:03:52,608 This is a very small-town newspaper. 53 00:03:52,650 --> 00:03:54,902 But it's "The New York Times" of Miramichi. 54 00:03:54,944 --> 00:03:57,029 The newsroom was only four desks. 55 00:03:57,071 --> 00:03:59,449 But Dave wanted this to be the best newspaper, 56 00:03:59,490 --> 00:04:01,951 pound for pound, in the country. 57 00:04:01,993 --> 00:04:06,956 It was me, my wife, and reporter Bonnie Sweeney. 58 00:04:06,998 --> 00:04:07,999 For you. 59 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:08,958 Good morning, Bonnie. 60 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:10,043 Morning. 61 00:04:10,084 --> 00:04:11,461 More fan mail? 62 00:04:11,502 --> 00:04:13,921 You know how much they love you. 63 00:04:28,728 --> 00:04:30,205 You must be doing something right, Rick. 64 00:04:30,229 --> 00:04:32,315 This guy wants to use your testicles for golf balls. 65 00:04:32,356 --> 00:04:34,692 Yeah, he isn't the only one. 66 00:04:34,734 --> 00:04:36,402 It's your job as editor. 67 00:04:36,444 --> 00:04:38,112 Pick the fights. 68 00:04:38,154 --> 00:04:41,532 Those in power accountable, all that crap... 69 00:04:41,574 --> 00:04:44,160 Just get me those fucking headlines. 70 00:04:52,543 --> 00:04:55,963 The whole idea was that you covered the go-kart races 71 00:04:56,005 --> 00:04:59,175 and you covered court and you covered the car accidents 72 00:04:59,217 --> 00:05:00,843 and you covered city council. 73 00:05:00,885 --> 00:05:02,345 There were no blaring headlines. 74 00:05:02,387 --> 00:05:04,889 But we worked around the clock trying to find them. 75 00:05:10,103 --> 00:05:12,522 Hello, Mira... 76 00:05:12,563 --> 00:05:15,608 Wait, wait. 77 00:05:15,650 --> 00:05:17,443 You need to slow down. 78 00:05:19,821 --> 00:05:21,030 What? 79 00:05:22,782 --> 00:05:24,492 Another angry reader? 80 00:05:24,534 --> 00:05:26,327 There's been a murder. 81 00:05:30,748 --> 00:05:32,500 Honey, I think we need to... 82 00:05:32,542 --> 00:05:35,461 I'll cancel dinner with the Stevensons. 83 00:05:35,503 --> 00:05:37,630 Just get home safe. 84 00:05:39,632 --> 00:05:42,385 Thank you, sweetie. 85 00:06:07,535 --> 00:06:10,580 Was that a boot print on his skull? 86 00:06:10,621 --> 00:06:12,498 John Glendenning is the victim. 87 00:06:12,540 --> 00:06:14,959 Botched robbery, most likely. 88 00:06:16,127 --> 00:06:17,795 We just got his wife to the hospital. 89 00:06:17,837 --> 00:06:20,840 It's a miracle she made it. 90 00:06:20,882 --> 00:06:23,968 Who would do something like this? 91 00:06:37,065 --> 00:06:39,192 The community is panicked 92 00:06:39,233 --> 00:06:41,069 because this is the first murder in years 93 00:06:41,110 --> 00:06:43,571 that anyone can remember, certainly since I was a kid. 94 00:06:45,782 --> 00:06:47,992 Mary Glendenning had been horribly beaten. 95 00:06:48,034 --> 00:06:50,661 And the 911 recording was heart-rending. 96 00:06:50,703 --> 00:06:52,413 She was terrified. 97 00:06:52,455 --> 00:06:53,998 But Mary's alive. 98 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,584 She can give some testimony, talking to the police. 99 00:06:56,626 --> 00:06:58,628 And very quickly, 100 00:06:58,669 --> 00:07:01,047 Allan Legere is the main suspect. 101 00:07:01,089 --> 00:07:04,092 If you lived in Miramichi, you knew who Allan Legere was. 102 00:07:04,133 --> 00:07:07,053 He was bad news. Everybody knew he was bad news. 103 00:07:10,181 --> 00:07:12,767 He was always in trouble with the law 104 00:07:12,809 --> 00:07:15,144 for some reason or other. 105 00:07:15,186 --> 00:07:17,980 But he was the kind of guy that would tie two cats' tails 106 00:07:18,022 --> 00:07:20,900 together and then throw them over a wire, over a line, 107 00:07:20,942 --> 00:07:22,735 and let them hang there. 108 00:07:22,777 --> 00:07:26,697 He had always been a twisted person. 109 00:07:26,739 --> 00:07:29,200 He was bright. He was a machinist. 110 00:07:29,242 --> 00:07:30,493 That's not an easy job. 111 00:07:30,535 --> 00:07:33,830 And really muscular and fearless... 112 00:07:33,871 --> 00:07:36,165 So he was quite willing to sort of 113 00:07:36,207 --> 00:07:39,085 impose himself physically on people from a very young age. 114 00:07:39,127 --> 00:07:42,547 Certainly, the community was terrified of him. 115 00:07:42,588 --> 00:07:45,007 Years before the Glendenning murder, 116 00:07:45,049 --> 00:07:46,592 he was writing to us all the time. 117 00:07:46,634 --> 00:07:48,010 And I would respond. 118 00:07:48,052 --> 00:07:51,055 So he wrote a letter to the paper 119 00:07:51,097 --> 00:07:53,182 about how people were such sheep, 120 00:07:53,224 --> 00:07:55,685 and he would rather be a pirate than a sheep. 121 00:07:55,727 --> 00:07:58,396 And I responded, 122 00:07:58,438 --> 00:08:00,940 saying the people who supported their community, 123 00:08:00,982 --> 00:08:03,693 they were the heroes, not the pirates. 124 00:08:03,735 --> 00:08:08,865 So those were my initial interactions with him. 125 00:08:12,118 --> 00:08:14,704 So police officers believed Allan Legere 126 00:08:14,746 --> 00:08:16,622 was looking for the quick score. 127 00:08:16,664 --> 00:08:18,040 He walks into that house, 128 00:08:18,082 --> 00:08:20,835 and he has an elderly couple with money in the house, 129 00:08:20,877 --> 00:08:22,545 and he has complete control. 130 00:08:22,587 --> 00:08:24,589 And he just went wild. 131 00:08:27,091 --> 00:08:28,926 He's beating on this man. 132 00:08:28,968 --> 00:08:31,137 He's demanding the combination to the safe. 133 00:08:31,179 --> 00:08:32,597 She's trying to open the safe, 134 00:08:32,638 --> 00:08:34,891 but he's beating her and hitting her in the head. 135 00:08:34,932 --> 00:08:37,769 He just went berserk. 136 00:08:37,810 --> 00:08:39,771 And it was rough. 137 00:08:46,235 --> 00:08:47,820 Fortunately, Allan Legere is pulled in 138 00:08:47,862 --> 00:08:49,322 within a couple of days. 139 00:08:49,363 --> 00:08:52,408 And the community goes, thank heavens. 140 00:08:52,450 --> 00:08:55,161 These cases, they go to trial relatively quickly. 141 00:08:55,203 --> 00:08:58,331 So I turned to our crime reporter, Bonnie Sweeney, 142 00:08:58,372 --> 00:09:00,708 and said, here's what we're going to do. 143 00:09:00,750 --> 00:09:02,919 We're going to cover this like a transcript. 144 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:04,754 You're going to take down every word said 145 00:09:04,796 --> 00:09:06,839 in that courtroom, everything that you see. 146 00:09:08,466 --> 00:09:09,926 They just called a recess. 147 00:09:09,967 --> 00:09:11,260 These are all the transcripts? 148 00:09:13,137 --> 00:09:15,056 Thank you. 149 00:09:15,098 --> 00:09:17,242 Do you want anything waiting for you when you get back? 150 00:09:17,266 --> 00:09:20,103 Just the biggest cup of coffee you can imagine. 151 00:09:20,144 --> 00:09:22,688 Our coverage was selling a lot of newspapers. 152 00:09:22,730 --> 00:09:25,316 There was a gas station 400 yards 153 00:09:25,358 --> 00:09:27,193 from where our printing press was. 154 00:09:27,235 --> 00:09:28,587 It was the first place that got the papers every night. 155 00:09:28,611 --> 00:09:29,779 People knew that. 156 00:09:29,821 --> 00:09:32,740 One night, there were 125 people 157 00:09:32,782 --> 00:09:35,159 at the gas station waiting to get their copy. 158 00:09:36,619 --> 00:09:39,122 This is how you're keeping up with "The New York Times"? 159 00:09:40,456 --> 00:09:43,084 It's David versus Goliath. 160 00:09:43,126 --> 00:09:46,546 You better hope Legere ends up behind bars. 161 00:09:46,587 --> 00:09:48,631 Or he'll be coming for you. 162 00:09:51,092 --> 00:09:53,761 Allan Legere decided that he didn't like the report, 163 00:09:53,803 --> 00:09:55,888 saying the community is against me 164 00:09:55,930 --> 00:09:58,182 and this isn't fair. 165 00:09:58,224 --> 00:10:00,184 Legere knew my name and who I was. 166 00:10:00,226 --> 00:10:01,936 And I'm singled out as the person 167 00:10:01,978 --> 00:10:04,021 who's responsible for it. 168 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,360 Suddenly, my wife and I became aware that 169 00:10:09,402 --> 00:10:11,904 our personal safety was at stake. 170 00:10:15,867 --> 00:10:18,244 The case goes to the jury. 171 00:10:18,286 --> 00:10:20,955 Very quickly, they come to a verdict. 172 00:10:20,997 --> 00:10:23,082 And the verdict is guilty. 173 00:10:23,124 --> 00:10:24,542 He'll eventually get life, 174 00:10:24,584 --> 00:10:26,461 which is automatic with second-degree murder. 175 00:10:26,502 --> 00:10:28,880 And it's over, right? 176 00:10:30,798 --> 00:10:35,011 You could see the community sort of give a sigh of relief. 177 00:10:35,053 --> 00:10:38,181 After being afraid of Allan Legere, 178 00:10:38,222 --> 00:10:41,017 finally, we're gonna be safe from this guy. 179 00:10:41,059 --> 00:10:42,852 The community can forget about it, 180 00:10:42,894 --> 00:10:44,520 which is exactly what the community did. 181 00:10:44,562 --> 00:10:49,484 And Allan Legere vanishes from the public's awareness. 182 00:10:49,525 --> 00:10:52,487 He was buried in a maximum security prison... 183 00:10:55,114 --> 00:10:56,908 They thought, forever. 184 00:11:20,973 --> 00:11:22,683 Hard to believe just six months ago, 185 00:11:22,725 --> 00:11:25,853 we were scooping "The New York Times." 186 00:11:29,107 --> 00:11:30,358 I don't want another murderer. 187 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,860 But I could use some goddamn news. 188 00:11:35,780 --> 00:11:37,782 Miramichi, how can I... 189 00:11:40,201 --> 00:11:41,577 What? 190 00:11:43,913 --> 00:11:46,582 It's my husband. He's on the police scanner. 191 00:11:46,624 --> 00:11:49,293 Tell Kenny to hold the phone up to the scanner. 192 00:11:49,335 --> 00:11:51,087 OK. 193 00:11:54,173 --> 00:11:56,968 Hospital's in lockdown. Teams on each floor now. 194 00:11:59,887 --> 00:12:02,306 Suspect is armed. He's dangerous. 195 00:12:04,142 --> 00:12:05,601 Dispatch, I've lost visual. 196 00:12:05,643 --> 00:12:08,396 Suspect last seen fleeing the building. 197 00:12:15,820 --> 00:12:18,364 We interrupt this program for an urgent news bulletin. 198 00:12:18,406 --> 00:12:19,949 Please be on the lookout for... 199 00:13:03,326 --> 00:13:04,494 Drive! 200 00:13:12,627 --> 00:13:15,421 The escaped convict, it's Allan Legere. 201 00:13:17,298 --> 00:13:19,884 You'll think he'll come back to Miramichi? 202 00:13:19,926 --> 00:13:22,512 If he's smart, 203 00:13:22,553 --> 00:13:25,932 he'll get as far away from here as he can. 204 00:13:53,418 --> 00:13:55,586 Allan Legere was convicted of murdering 205 00:13:55,628 --> 00:13:59,757 a shopkeeper in Black River Bridge, New Brunswick in 1986. 206 00:13:59,799 --> 00:14:02,427 Three years later, he escaped from prison. 207 00:14:04,345 --> 00:14:06,973 A predator like Legere was looking for an opening, 208 00:14:07,014 --> 00:14:08,516 and he saw one. 209 00:14:08,558 --> 00:14:11,561 He starts poking at his ear to create an infection 210 00:14:11,602 --> 00:14:13,896 so that he has to go to a hospital about 100 miles away 211 00:14:13,938 --> 00:14:16,107 in Moncton once or twice. 212 00:14:16,149 --> 00:14:17,817 He took some pieces off his television 213 00:14:17,859 --> 00:14:21,028 and fashioned a homemade key. 214 00:14:21,070 --> 00:14:24,240 He shoves it up his rectum to hide it. 215 00:14:24,282 --> 00:14:25,718 They allow him to go in the bathroom 216 00:14:25,742 --> 00:14:27,577 with the door mostly closed. 217 00:14:27,618 --> 00:14:30,621 The next thing Legere bursts out of the bathroom. 218 00:14:30,663 --> 00:14:32,457 Cuffs are gone. 219 00:14:32,498 --> 00:14:35,251 Explodes past the first officer, 220 00:14:35,293 --> 00:14:37,628 explodes past the second one, who all he can do, 221 00:14:37,670 --> 00:14:40,590 as he gets close to him, is he sprays with the pepper spray. 222 00:14:40,631 --> 00:14:42,109 Well, that doesn't work in the back of the head of a guy 223 00:14:42,133 --> 00:14:43,551 who's running away from you. 224 00:14:50,767 --> 00:14:53,144 I knew I had a target on my back. 225 00:14:53,186 --> 00:14:54,520 The community was sort of, 226 00:14:54,562 --> 00:14:56,647 I think, unconsciously holding its breath, 227 00:14:56,689 --> 00:14:59,025 waiting for something really, really bad to happen. 228 00:15:55,248 --> 00:15:56,791 Geez. 229 00:15:56,833 --> 00:15:58,209 I'm sorry, Annie. 230 00:15:58,251 --> 00:16:00,378 I'm such a klutz. 231 00:16:00,420 --> 00:16:03,548 I brought you a nice salad. 232 00:16:06,342 --> 00:16:09,053 I'll put it in the kitchen. 233 00:16:13,391 --> 00:16:16,686 Annie Flam, she's like 76. 234 00:16:16,728 --> 00:16:19,063 She was basically everyone's Jewish grandmother... 235 00:16:19,105 --> 00:16:22,692 Older house, right downtown, 236 00:16:22,734 --> 00:16:26,028 two minutes away from the fire station and the police station. 237 00:16:26,070 --> 00:16:27,905 Annie and her sister-in-law 238 00:16:27,947 --> 00:16:29,907 were blithely going on with their lives. 239 00:16:42,003 --> 00:16:44,005 Someone at the door? 240 00:16:44,047 --> 00:16:45,965 Annie? 241 00:16:49,052 --> 00:16:52,305 Who would visit at this hour? 242 00:16:54,223 --> 00:16:57,560 Annie? 243 00:18:59,432 --> 00:19:03,144 No. 244 00:19:05,146 --> 00:19:07,774 No. 245 00:19:07,815 --> 00:19:09,275 You stay in bed. 246 00:19:11,903 --> 00:19:14,864 OK. 247 00:21:01,054 --> 00:21:04,432 No. 248 00:21:04,474 --> 00:21:06,309 Stay here. 249 00:21:06,350 --> 00:21:07,977 - OK. - OK? 250 00:21:08,019 --> 00:21:10,438 - OK. - OK. 251 00:23:17,982 --> 00:23:20,860 Two sisters beaten, their home torched. 252 00:23:20,902 --> 00:23:24,489 Annie Flam, 75, was beaten to death. 253 00:23:24,530 --> 00:23:28,076 Her sister-in-law was also beaten, but she survived. 254 00:23:29,619 --> 00:23:31,120 It's a tragedy. 255 00:23:31,162 --> 00:23:32,705 He'd taken his time. 256 00:23:32,747 --> 00:23:34,266 He'd killed Annie, then he'd come up the stairs. 257 00:23:34,290 --> 00:23:36,310 He knew that Nina was there. He'd sexually assaulted Nina. 258 00:23:36,334 --> 00:23:38,628 He tucks her into the bed like he'd tuck in a child, 259 00:23:38,669 --> 00:23:40,129 all firm in the bed. 260 00:23:40,171 --> 00:23:44,258 She didn't resist, which is probably why she survived. 261 00:23:44,300 --> 00:23:45,968 I mean Annie Flam, for heaven's sake, 262 00:23:46,010 --> 00:23:48,137 she wouldn't have weighed 100 pounds. 263 00:23:48,179 --> 00:23:51,140 She was just a sweet, frail, little old lady. 264 00:23:51,182 --> 00:23:52,892 So the assault that he committed there 265 00:23:52,934 --> 00:23:56,479 and the murder he committed there were just so disgusting. 266 00:23:58,356 --> 00:24:01,526 That's the latest in a series of brutal attacks in the area. 267 00:24:01,567 --> 00:24:03,319 Nobody knows for sure who's behind them, 268 00:24:03,361 --> 00:24:07,156 but the number one suspect is a convicted murderer on the run. 269 00:24:07,198 --> 00:24:09,659 Everyone's favorite suspect is Allan Legere. 270 00:24:09,700 --> 00:24:12,453 He's a convicted killer who was serving a life sentence 271 00:24:12,495 --> 00:24:14,664 for the brutal murder in 1986 272 00:24:14,705 --> 00:24:17,125 of an elderly Miramichi storekeeper. 273 00:24:18,793 --> 00:24:20,670 At the time, I had a column every week. 274 00:24:20,712 --> 00:24:22,714 So I was commenting on everything 275 00:24:22,755 --> 00:24:25,758 that was going on with Legere, 276 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,802 never in his favor, of course. 277 00:24:27,844 --> 00:24:32,140 So nobody likes it when you cover their crimes. 278 00:24:36,310 --> 00:24:40,565 Here are all of the alleged Legere sightings today. 279 00:24:46,154 --> 00:24:48,030 He's becoming a damn boogeyman. 280 00:24:51,868 --> 00:24:54,078 There was a fire at my house. 281 00:25:00,334 --> 00:25:02,045 Honey, are you OK? 282 00:25:02,086 --> 00:25:03,212 One second. 283 00:25:03,254 --> 00:25:04,714 What happened? 284 00:25:04,756 --> 00:25:07,884 Mr. Cadogan, your house was burned throughout. 285 00:25:07,925 --> 00:25:11,012 Your wife was lucky she wasn't inside. 286 00:25:11,054 --> 00:25:13,514 Legere? 287 00:25:13,556 --> 00:25:16,142 Certainly what she thinks, Sir. 288 00:25:20,605 --> 00:25:22,732 You did this to us. 289 00:25:22,774 --> 00:25:24,567 You taunted him with your paper. 290 00:25:24,609 --> 00:25:26,360 What did you think was gonna happen? 291 00:25:26,402 --> 00:25:28,905 - Honey. - Shame on you. 292 00:25:28,946 --> 00:25:30,698 Honey! 293 00:25:53,137 --> 00:25:55,765 The fire was set in the middle of the bed 294 00:25:55,807 --> 00:25:57,058 in the master bedroom. 295 00:25:57,100 --> 00:25:58,851 And that was a bit of a pattern. 296 00:25:58,893 --> 00:26:02,397 That had happened in several other homes in the area. 297 00:26:02,438 --> 00:26:05,983 Legere was targeting people that he tangled with. 298 00:26:06,025 --> 00:26:09,070 And frankly, at that point, I did get nervous, 299 00:26:09,112 --> 00:26:12,031 because I was one of his prime contacts. 300 00:26:12,073 --> 00:26:15,618 And he had no interest, of course, in a fair fight. 301 00:26:15,660 --> 00:26:17,787 My marriage was breaking up. 302 00:26:17,829 --> 00:26:19,288 And with Legere on the loose, 303 00:26:19,330 --> 00:26:22,417 she had no interest in being there and left. 304 00:26:27,588 --> 00:26:28,965 When the fire happened, 305 00:26:29,006 --> 00:26:31,134 I was scared to death. 306 00:26:31,175 --> 00:26:33,219 It's like you were in the herd 307 00:26:33,261 --> 00:26:35,680 and the lion was circling around the outside. 308 00:26:35,722 --> 00:26:38,975 And you didn't want to be the one that the lion singled out. 309 00:26:39,016 --> 00:26:42,270 And it was just a matter of time. 310 00:26:46,774 --> 00:26:47,984 Allan Legere is the subject 311 00:26:48,025 --> 00:26:49,461 of countless whispered conversations 312 00:26:49,485 --> 00:26:50,945 every day in this town. 313 00:26:50,987 --> 00:26:53,865 On account of his criminal records, people have a fear. 314 00:26:53,906 --> 00:26:55,908 Just the name Allan Legere 315 00:26:55,950 --> 00:26:57,869 sends a fear through the people. 316 00:27:12,592 --> 00:27:14,135 More sightings... 317 00:27:14,177 --> 00:27:17,555 A severed head found on a doorstep, 318 00:27:17,597 --> 00:27:20,516 a man and his wife were bludgeoned with his own shotgun, 319 00:27:20,558 --> 00:27:22,351 and a number of people who say they wake up 320 00:27:22,393 --> 00:27:24,020 with some guy just standing over them. 321 00:27:24,062 --> 00:27:26,439 Sounds like Legere. 322 00:27:31,402 --> 00:27:33,237 At a home that would have been 323 00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:37,033 a 60-second walk from my office, 324 00:27:37,075 --> 00:27:39,702 Donna Daughney and Linda Daughney... 325 00:27:39,744 --> 00:27:41,621 Women minding their own business... 326 00:27:41,662 --> 00:27:44,582 Two sisters who lived here were viciously beaten 327 00:27:44,624 --> 00:27:47,668 and sexually assaulted, their home set on fire. 328 00:27:51,089 --> 00:27:53,049 Just like in the Flam case, 329 00:27:53,091 --> 00:27:56,552 Legere, he tucked her into the bed. 330 00:28:03,684 --> 00:28:07,438 It just gets worse and worse and worse. 331 00:28:15,988 --> 00:28:17,407 It was awful. 332 00:28:17,448 --> 00:28:19,492 Linda would die from smoke inhalation. 333 00:28:19,534 --> 00:28:22,036 I've seen the autopsy photos. You can see the soot line 334 00:28:22,078 --> 00:28:23,913 running down through her trachea. 335 00:28:26,374 --> 00:28:30,670 It upsets me as a parent, a citizen, and a police officer 336 00:28:30,712 --> 00:28:34,090 to see human lives taken like this. 337 00:28:34,132 --> 00:28:35,717 It's becoming a too-familiar scene 338 00:28:35,758 --> 00:28:38,803 in this part of Northeastern New Brunswick. 339 00:28:38,845 --> 00:28:40,555 More than a dozen RCMP officers 340 00:28:40,596 --> 00:28:43,015 are looking into the killing of two sisters. 341 00:28:47,186 --> 00:28:49,605 This is the moment when, for the community, 342 00:28:49,647 --> 00:28:50,982 we now accepted that 343 00:28:51,023 --> 00:28:53,317 Allan Legere was a serial killer, 344 00:28:53,359 --> 00:28:55,421 that we were the hunting ground, and we were the hunted. 345 00:28:55,445 --> 00:28:57,655 Every indication is that we have someone here 346 00:28:57,697 --> 00:28:59,532 who kills for kicks. 347 00:28:59,574 --> 00:29:01,951 Rick MacLean, editor of the local paper, 348 00:29:01,993 --> 00:29:04,036 says people are terrified. 349 00:29:04,078 --> 00:29:05,872 People from national television stations, 350 00:29:05,913 --> 00:29:07,933 they're all coming to town looking for someone to talk to. 351 00:29:07,957 --> 00:29:11,044 And I became sort of the media face of this thing. 352 00:29:11,085 --> 00:29:13,087 I was the person that you were seeing 353 00:29:13,129 --> 00:29:16,466 on television and on the radio, and we didn't know this, 354 00:29:16,507 --> 00:29:18,676 but Allan Legere had a radio and he was listening. 355 00:29:18,718 --> 00:29:20,344 I'm sure people are thinking now 356 00:29:20,386 --> 00:29:22,930 that unless they catch him, it will happen again. 357 00:29:24,474 --> 00:29:26,017 I used to joke with Fred Ferguson, 358 00:29:26,059 --> 00:29:28,644 the crown prosecutor who put him away for the Glendenning case, 359 00:29:28,686 --> 00:29:32,231 Legere ever gets out, I just have to run faster than you, 360 00:29:32,273 --> 00:29:35,443 because, there's an assumption Legere had a list 361 00:29:35,485 --> 00:29:37,403 and Fred was at the top of the list. 362 00:29:37,445 --> 00:29:39,155 And in the most serious voice 363 00:29:39,197 --> 00:29:42,450 I've ever heard him use, Fred went, no. 364 00:29:42,492 --> 00:29:43,993 No, it's you. 365 00:29:44,035 --> 00:29:46,662 It's not me. 366 00:29:46,704 --> 00:29:49,499 All this attention became a sore point with my wife. 367 00:29:49,540 --> 00:29:52,960 At one point, she sat me down and basically said, 368 00:29:53,002 --> 00:29:55,338 what about us? 369 00:30:01,344 --> 00:30:04,180 I was just coming to give you a kiss. 370 00:30:04,222 --> 00:30:06,557 I'm sorry for the less-than-warm reception. 371 00:30:06,599 --> 00:30:08,976 No, it's OK. 372 00:30:09,018 --> 00:30:11,562 How's our little one doing? 373 00:30:14,857 --> 00:30:18,694 Do you think we're putting a target on our backs? 374 00:30:29,038 --> 00:30:32,792 About two weeks later, the 28th of October, 375 00:30:32,834 --> 00:30:34,544 everything completely exploded. 376 00:30:34,585 --> 00:30:35,753 All hell breaks loose. 377 00:30:37,714 --> 00:30:39,716 There's someone being chased around 378 00:30:39,757 --> 00:30:41,718 the town of Chatham. 379 00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:43,862 Everybody in the community is listening to the scanners, 380 00:30:43,886 --> 00:30:45,763 listening to all this happen in real time. 381 00:30:48,307 --> 00:30:49,892 Police officer said, surrender! 382 00:30:49,934 --> 00:30:52,019 The man spins, fires a shotgun. 383 00:30:53,104 --> 00:30:54,647 The man... it was Legere... 384 00:30:54,689 --> 00:30:57,442 Turned to him and, in a completely calm voice, 385 00:30:57,483 --> 00:31:00,236 said, if you don't leave me alone, 386 00:31:00,278 --> 00:31:02,113 I'm going to fucking kill you. 387 00:31:02,155 --> 00:31:05,283 And Legere escapes. 388 00:31:05,324 --> 00:31:08,244 The RCMP released a news release 389 00:31:08,286 --> 00:31:10,830 saying there was a shot fired 390 00:31:10,872 --> 00:31:13,958 and we basically don't have anything else to say. 391 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,752 He's outfoxed his pursuers, 392 00:31:15,793 --> 00:31:18,880 and that now he's even made the Mounties cry uncle. 393 00:31:18,921 --> 00:31:21,883 Neil Stairs, CBS News, Chatham. 394 00:31:27,889 --> 00:31:29,432 The community was furious. 395 00:31:29,474 --> 00:31:31,326 The community is afraid for its personal safety. 396 00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:33,412 The Royal Canadian Mounted Police won't tell us anything. 397 00:31:33,436 --> 00:31:34,747 I did something I've never done before 398 00:31:34,771 --> 00:31:36,064 and I've never done since. 399 00:31:36,105 --> 00:31:37,958 I wrote an editorial and put it on the front page 400 00:31:37,982 --> 00:31:39,108 of the newspaper. 401 00:31:39,150 --> 00:31:40,902 In that, I said, look. 402 00:31:40,943 --> 00:31:42,737 You say you want our help. 403 00:31:42,779 --> 00:31:44,781 We are desperate to help. 404 00:31:44,822 --> 00:31:47,700 And yet, you're providing us with no information 405 00:31:47,742 --> 00:31:49,077 for our own personal safety. 406 00:31:54,373 --> 00:31:56,626 After this call to action, 407 00:31:56,667 --> 00:31:59,295 I could only hope that the police got ahold of Legere 408 00:31:59,337 --> 00:32:01,964 before Legere got a hold of me. 409 00:32:20,274 --> 00:32:22,318 It was the 15th of November. 410 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,862 Legere, he had been hiding for months. 411 00:32:24,904 --> 00:32:26,572 I was stopping at a gas station 412 00:32:26,614 --> 00:32:28,282 to get some gas on the way into work. 413 00:32:28,324 --> 00:32:31,702 And a police officer pulled up, jumped out of his car, 414 00:32:31,744 --> 00:32:35,790 and confirmed Legere apparently was bottled up in a small area 415 00:32:35,832 --> 00:32:37,500 of Chatham Head, near the church, 416 00:32:37,542 --> 00:32:39,001 near where my grandmother lived. 417 00:32:39,043 --> 00:32:40,503 They had him boxed in. 418 00:32:40,545 --> 00:32:42,547 He couldn't get out, and they couldn't find him. 419 00:34:07,131 --> 00:34:09,300 At 7:05, 420 00:34:09,342 --> 00:34:12,720 Father James Smith, Roman Catholic priest, 421 00:34:12,762 --> 00:34:14,639 was five minutes late for his mass. 422 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,183 And Father Smith was never late. 423 00:34:20,728 --> 00:34:25,358 There was blood everywhere, absolutely everywhere. 424 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,569 He had slaughtered him. I've seen the photos. 425 00:34:29,987 --> 00:34:32,907 The floor was covered in blood. 426 00:34:32,949 --> 00:34:35,493 Blood splattered onto the ceiling. 427 00:34:35,535 --> 00:34:36,994 I didn't know you could do this. 428 00:34:37,036 --> 00:34:39,747 He had disconnected his face from his skull 429 00:34:39,789 --> 00:34:40,832 as if it was a mask. 430 00:34:40,873 --> 00:34:43,000 And it slid sideways on his face. 431 00:34:43,042 --> 00:34:46,754 It was the most vicious of all the attacks. 432 00:34:49,632 --> 00:34:52,176 First, an elderly woman, then two sisters, 433 00:34:52,218 --> 00:34:53,928 then a priest were murdered. 434 00:34:53,970 --> 00:34:56,514 The mayor says people are afraid 435 00:34:56,556 --> 00:34:59,016 and they're arming themselves. 436 00:34:59,058 --> 00:35:01,811 Some people have called me and said that, you know, 437 00:35:01,853 --> 00:35:06,858 that they're sleeping with a loaded gun, but... 438 00:35:06,899 --> 00:35:08,484 I wish they wouldn't. 439 00:35:08,526 --> 00:35:10,319 A lot of murder going on. 440 00:35:10,361 --> 00:35:12,572 And I think we have to do something about it. 441 00:35:12,613 --> 00:35:15,408 And we have to do it ourselves locally. 442 00:35:15,450 --> 00:35:18,619 People were certainly terrified. 443 00:35:18,661 --> 00:35:21,706 All kinds of things started to shut down. 444 00:35:21,748 --> 00:35:23,458 People would not go out at night 445 00:35:23,499 --> 00:35:25,334 for anything, to shop. 446 00:35:25,376 --> 00:35:26,919 Halloween was canceled. 447 00:35:26,961 --> 00:35:28,588 Elderly people in town, 448 00:35:28,629 --> 00:35:32,675 many of them moved in with their adult children or left town. 449 00:35:32,717 --> 00:35:36,137 You'd walk the streets, and it was like COVID. 450 00:35:36,179 --> 00:35:38,514 The streets were empty. 451 00:35:38,556 --> 00:35:40,475 Legere, he could be anywhere. 452 00:35:40,516 --> 00:35:42,268 It's just never going to end for us. 453 00:35:42,310 --> 00:35:43,686 It just keeps going on and on. 454 00:35:43,728 --> 00:35:45,772 We're never going to feel safe again. 455 00:35:57,033 --> 00:35:58,576 It's winter, and we finally had 456 00:35:58,618 --> 00:36:01,788 our first snow storm of the year. 457 00:36:01,829 --> 00:36:03,623 Allan Legere had been hiding 458 00:36:03,664 --> 00:36:05,267 at a string of things that sort of looked like teepees 459 00:36:05,291 --> 00:36:09,670 and makeshift shelters on the outskirts of the community. 460 00:36:09,712 --> 00:36:11,923 But now it's November. It's freezing cold. 461 00:36:11,964 --> 00:36:15,134 And there's snow. So you can't hide snow prints. 462 00:36:15,176 --> 00:36:17,637 So he had been forced to flee. 463 00:36:19,097 --> 00:36:23,101 And that night, Allan Legere gets ahold of a cab. 464 00:36:23,142 --> 00:36:26,771 And Legere points a gun at him and says, start driving. 465 00:36:26,813 --> 00:36:28,272 But it's starting to snow. 466 00:36:28,314 --> 00:36:30,691 And the cab swerves in the middle of this highway, 467 00:36:30,733 --> 00:36:32,151 ends up in the ditch. 468 00:36:32,193 --> 00:36:33,528 A good Samaritan stops. 469 00:36:33,569 --> 00:36:35,613 It was an off-duty police officer, a woman, 470 00:36:35,655 --> 00:36:37,532 who had stopped to help them. 471 00:36:37,573 --> 00:36:40,284 Now he has two hostages. 472 00:36:40,326 --> 00:36:41,786 Finally, he's running out of gas. 473 00:36:41,828 --> 00:36:43,663 So he pulls into a small town to get gas. 474 00:36:43,704 --> 00:36:45,498 He pumps in the gas, 475 00:36:45,540 --> 00:36:47,583 dashes in, throws a 20 on the counter, 476 00:36:47,625 --> 00:36:49,687 comes running back out, and the car is disappearing, 477 00:36:49,711 --> 00:36:52,380 sort of swishing this way as it's going. 478 00:36:52,422 --> 00:36:54,757 Legere calmly walks over to a tractor trailer, 479 00:36:54,799 --> 00:36:56,634 an 18-wheeler, points at the driver, 480 00:36:56,676 --> 00:36:58,428 Brian Golding, says, I'm Allan Legere. 481 00:36:58,469 --> 00:37:00,096 Get in the truck. 482 00:37:00,138 --> 00:37:03,808 And now he's got an 18-wheeler, and he forces him to go north. 483 00:37:06,394 --> 00:37:09,272 Transport truck on that road doesn't make any sense. 484 00:37:09,313 --> 00:37:14,152 Everybody was so afraid, people called the police. 485 00:37:14,193 --> 00:37:16,279 The police stopped the truck. 486 00:37:25,037 --> 00:37:27,457 It's him. 487 00:37:27,498 --> 00:37:29,333 Drop your weapon! Get out of the truck! 488 00:38:56,838 --> 00:38:59,006 On the Miramichi, they've hoped and prayed 489 00:38:59,048 --> 00:39:00,258 for this moment. 490 00:39:00,299 --> 00:39:01,843 Allan Legere, a suspect 491 00:39:01,884 --> 00:39:04,470 in four recent murders, in handcuffs... 492 00:39:04,512 --> 00:39:06,639 Soon to be behind bars again. 493 00:39:06,681 --> 00:39:08,558 The man they believe was terrorizing them 494 00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:10,351 has been finally caught. 495 00:39:10,393 --> 00:39:12,812 RCMP nabbed Legere. 496 00:39:12,854 --> 00:39:15,481 He had a sawed off rifle loaded and cocked, 497 00:39:15,523 --> 00:39:16,816 but he didn't resist. 498 00:39:16,858 --> 00:39:18,776 I rushed to the newsroom. 499 00:39:18,818 --> 00:39:20,862 The phone rings, and it's Dave Cadogan. 500 00:39:20,903 --> 00:39:22,822 And he sort of rhymes off, 501 00:39:22,864 --> 00:39:24,258 we need to do this, we need to do this. 502 00:39:24,282 --> 00:39:26,260 And I said, we did that, Dave. And we did that, Dave. 503 00:39:26,284 --> 00:39:27,910 And finally, I said, David, 504 00:39:27,952 --> 00:39:29,912 we have to have a special edition. 505 00:39:29,954 --> 00:39:31,414 And I'll never forget what he said. 506 00:39:31,456 --> 00:39:34,041 He went, fuck, yes! 507 00:39:41,132 --> 00:39:44,886 People were out in the streets. 508 00:39:44,927 --> 00:39:47,472 The church bells were ringing. 509 00:39:50,683 --> 00:39:53,186 In town, the bells rang out, 510 00:39:53,227 --> 00:39:55,313 calling people to a special mass to celebrate 511 00:39:55,354 --> 00:39:56,814 what the priest called, 512 00:39:56,856 --> 00:39:58,900 "the liberation of the Miramichi." 513 00:39:58,941 --> 00:40:00,318 The mayor of Newcastle says 514 00:40:00,359 --> 00:40:02,039 a load has been lifted from his shoulders. 515 00:40:02,070 --> 00:40:05,198 And on the streets, it's completely different today. 516 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,159 Everybody's in a different mood altogether. 517 00:40:08,201 --> 00:40:09,744 It's almost unbelievable, 518 00:40:09,786 --> 00:40:11,746 the change that has happened since yesterday. 519 00:40:15,374 --> 00:40:19,003 We can put our machetes and everything away. 520 00:40:20,171 --> 00:40:22,048 The best thing that ever happened. 521 00:40:22,090 --> 00:40:24,092 Make it a good Christmas, won't it? 522 00:40:24,133 --> 00:40:26,761 Legere would be charged with four more counts of murder, 523 00:40:26,803 --> 00:40:28,638 but this time, it's first-degree murder. 524 00:40:28,679 --> 00:40:30,598 The sentence is still life, 525 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,851 but now the opportunity for parole goes from 18 years... 526 00:40:33,893 --> 00:40:38,231 The Glendenning case... To 25 years. 527 00:40:38,272 --> 00:40:41,859 Many people believe that Allan Legere will eventually 528 00:40:41,901 --> 00:40:44,278 get out of prison, that he will escape, 529 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,155 because he's done it before, 530 00:40:46,197 --> 00:40:48,908 because he's always been quite the con man. 531 00:40:48,950 --> 00:40:50,785 And they believe he will... 532 00:40:50,827 --> 00:40:52,667 If he does get out... That he will kill again. 533 00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,794 Very quickly after he was back in prison, 534 00:40:59,836 --> 00:41:02,213 he was starting to plan his escape again. 535 00:41:02,255 --> 00:41:04,590 I get a phone call from my wife. 536 00:41:06,426 --> 00:41:07,719 I'm at work. 537 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,888 She's at home with our one-year-old. 538 00:41:10,930 --> 00:41:14,809 My wife was just frantic on the phone. 539 00:41:14,851 --> 00:41:17,729 I said, what's wrong? 540 00:41:50,094 --> 00:41:53,139 "Hi, Dear. 541 00:41:53,181 --> 00:41:55,433 "How are you? 542 00:41:55,475 --> 00:41:58,811 I had such a nice time last summer seeing you there." 543 00:42:00,813 --> 00:42:02,815 "Nice place." 544 00:42:06,235 --> 00:42:11,282 "You're such a lovely wife, and I just love that new baby." 545 00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:17,955 "So quiet and bouncy. 546 00:42:17,997 --> 00:42:20,124 "I know you spend a lot of time by yourself, 547 00:42:20,166 --> 00:42:25,630 "so I know you won't mind me visiting you next year. 548 00:42:25,671 --> 00:42:30,718 Until then, I'll see you again." 549 00:42:33,596 --> 00:42:37,433 The police said it's Legere. 550 00:42:37,475 --> 00:42:41,312 He tells you that he knows things about you, 551 00:42:41,354 --> 00:42:44,982 that he understands where you live, 552 00:42:45,024 --> 00:42:48,528 understands that I have a little girl. 553 00:42:48,569 --> 00:42:52,156 Allan Legere's first parole hearing, 554 00:42:52,198 --> 00:42:54,492 it was about a two-hour process. 555 00:42:54,534 --> 00:42:58,496 And I'm told he spent about 20 minutes talking about me. 556 00:42:58,538 --> 00:43:00,456 It's personal. 557 00:43:03,209 --> 00:43:04,711 I've written a series of headlines 558 00:43:04,752 --> 00:43:06,379 about Allan Legere over the years. 559 00:43:06,421 --> 00:43:08,047 When Allan Legere escaped, 560 00:43:08,089 --> 00:43:12,009 I had a photo of him that filled the front page of the newspaper. 561 00:43:12,051 --> 00:43:13,320 It was the only thing on the paper. 562 00:43:13,344 --> 00:43:16,556 And it said, "escaped" right across it. 563 00:43:16,597 --> 00:43:20,768 When Allan Legere was caught, same photo, same size... 564 00:43:20,810 --> 00:43:23,020 It said "caught." 565 00:43:23,062 --> 00:43:25,273 And when Allan Legere was found guilty, 566 00:43:25,314 --> 00:43:29,235 same photo, and it said "guilty." 567 00:43:29,277 --> 00:43:31,028 I don't run a newspaper anymore, 568 00:43:31,070 --> 00:43:33,197 but I'm waiting for one last headline... 569 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,992 "dead." 570 00:43:38,995 --> 00:43:46,127 oakislandtk<<<<< www.opensubtitles.org 42672

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