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We're a weekend out
from trial.
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Look.
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We know what the prosecution's
gonna do.
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We know what the state's
gonna do.
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We know what they're
gonna throw us.
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We know when
they're gonna throw it.
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We know how
they're gonna throw it.
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We know how fast
it's gonna go.
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We know everything
about their game plan.
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We know where
their game plan's
gonna end up.
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They think we don't know
it's gonna end up over there.
We do.
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We're gonna be there
waiting for it.
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So when they toss us
a little softball, we know.
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Michael's right here.
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Crush it.
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And that'll be it.
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I have already lost
everything in my life once.
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If you were to show up here
right here, right now,
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and you were to tell me
that you've got
my youngest son, Ethan
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and my middle son, Wesley,
in your car with you
right now,
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and you were to tell me,
"Mr. Barnett, you can see them
for five minutes.
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You can smile.
You can hug your children.
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It's only for five minutes,
but to do it, you need
to cut your arm off."
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I'm not even gonna hesitate.
Where's the machete?
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I will...
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I will do anything
if I could...
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Sorry, I'm gonna get upset.
I am.
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When this first started,
every single night
that I lied awake,
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I would be picturing
every single second in jail.
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I'd be going
through everything
I ever heard of jail.
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I'd be Googling,
"Hey, what's jail
really like?"
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and reading
the horror stories.
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What is at risk?
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Everything. Everything.
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Sorry about throwing it.
I am a thrower
when I get mad.
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I'm innocent.
As long as the truth
all comes out,
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I have nothing
to run and hide from.
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But Kristine, she has hidden
a lot of things.
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During discovery,
while the police are gathering
their evidence,
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requesting evidence
and whatnot,
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they subpoenaed Kristine's
entire Facebook history.
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Every message she's ever sent.
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Every post
she's ever made, et cetera.
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As part of discovery,
my attorney asked me,
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"Hey, go through this,
and just make sure
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there's no landmines
that we should be aware of."
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So I'm just searching through.
There's a name that pops up
that I'm just not expecting.
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Somebody that brought
their kid to our daycare
in about 2006-ish.
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I know the guy's married,
and these are
extremely inappropriate,
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sexual-nature conversation.
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A lot
of masturbating together.
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"I wanna have three-ways
with you and my wife.
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Can you reach out
to my wife for me
and invite her?"
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And I hit the floor crying.
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And then I see
all about the handyman
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and all about
her making out with him
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and all about her taking him
to a parking lot,
leaving the kids at home
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and having sex with him
in the local McDonald's
and Tim Horton's parking lots.
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Who does this?
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My name is Fred Gill.
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I was a celebrity
in the country music business.
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The thing about being on tour
is the lady factor.
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Man, I...
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Let's just say that I...
I soaked all that up.
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Good girl.
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Kristine reached out to me
over Messenger
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because they had just
adopted Natalia.
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And so Kristine
had some questions for me
about little people
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and sought some advice,
and I was more than happy
to share that with her.
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Our conversations
started off very benign,
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and then pretty quickly
turned into a chain
of messages
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that were of a sexual nature.
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Kristine tried to entice me
into corresponding more
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by putting herself
out there physically.
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There's multiple,
multiple messages.
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Quite a bit more graphic
back and forth
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about the kind of things
we were gonna do sexually.
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It's upside down.
She sent that picture.
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Talks about the fact
that she didn't really see me
as small,
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that she treated me
like everybody else.
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I go on talking
about my manhood
being larger than average.
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I asked her if she liked oral.
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And she said,
"Depends on if the guy's
any good at it."
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I told her about how I had
an ex-girlfriend just about
kick me across the room
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because I was giving her
so many orgasms in a row.
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Eventually, I was called
by a state
police investigator,
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asking me about the messages
between Kristine and I.
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So, I find out about this
long after divorce,
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with a woman that I truly
cannot even fathom
communicating with.
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I'm robbed of my ability
to confront her on this.
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I'm still not ready
to stand up to her.
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And I'm not ready to...
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I hate this.
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I hate this.
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I hate this.
I want this to stop.
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About two-and-a-half years
after my divorce,
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Jennifer and I
found each other.
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Jennifer- God bless her-
pulls me up,
yells at me like a soldier.
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She is an angel
and a rockstar
at the same time,
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and she basically
gets me back on track,
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and that's really important
and valuable.
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I am so emotionally fragile
and delicate.
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It's such a house of cards
right now.
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I few months ago,
I had a breakdown.
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I had a mental breakdown.
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All the pressure
and all the weight
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and all the constant
inability to sleep,
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inability to rest,
inability to live
just all came crashing down.
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This is all getting closer
and closer and closer,
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and it's getting tense
and tense.
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I checked myself
into the hospital in June.
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I have no problem
talking about this.
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I might get emotional over it,
but I truly don't have trouble
talking about it.
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Um...
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It was as close as I've been
to a third suicide attempt
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since the second one.
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And it's been 18 years
since then.
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It...
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I have panic attacks
all day long.
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I have anxiety attacks
all day long.
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Where we are,
at my attorney's office,
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this is the only place
I feel myself anymore.
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This is the only place
that I feel comfortable
and confident,
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and I don't feel like somebody
might be coming to attack me.
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I don't feel safe
almost anywhere anymore.
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There's always a potential
of some random reporter
banging on my door
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and shouting my name,
"Michael Barnett, we know
you're in there. Come out!"
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It's the story that captured
the world's attention.
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The bizarre case
of child neglect.
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The parents from Indianapolis
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accused of abandoning
their adopted daughter
in an apartment.
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The Barnett's will have
separate trials,
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with Michael's just days away.
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So, you think they should
go to jail?
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I feel like I was already
robbed of my childhood.
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But when I got re-aged,
that's when it really
hit hard.
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It's not right to do that
to a child.
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They should do their time,
get it over with,
and get right with God.
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Michael's trial is coming up,
and the judge is ruling
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that despite
this DNA evidence,
age still can't be mentioned,
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and that's a big blow
to the prosecution
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because a lot of their counts
had to do
with the abandonment
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and neglect of a child.
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And everything became now
abandonment and neglect
of a disabled person,
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not a child.
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Is this trial gonna answer
all the questions? No.
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The judge has limited
the evidence
that the jury can hear.
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They're not gonna know
that Natalia was reaged
from eight to 22.
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Now, when you were
in Lafayette,
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you didn't report
that you were being neglected.
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No 'cause I didn't know...
I didn't even know
what that meant.
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But you didn't know that...
You didn't report that, "Hey,"
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you were left alone,
and you don't know
what you're doing?
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Yes 'cause I didn't know
that I could call the police
and tell them that.
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So, the things
that the police said
that you said,
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you're saying they're lying
about that, right?
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- Yes.
Okay.
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And the things
that the field case managers
said that you said,
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they're lying about that, too?
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Yes.
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Mike, come on in.
How you feeling?
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Um, great.
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- Sure.
- I'm ready to whoop some ass.
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I'm walking into battle
where I need certain types
of experts, and I've got them.
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And so those things
are all true,
but what I wanna talk about
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is the people
on the other table
are not your friend.
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- This is a battle.
This is a boxing match.
- Yep.
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This is pugilism.
You have to punch
and get punched.
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I can take a lot
of punches, man.
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A hundred jury trials
under my belt.
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One thing has always been true
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regardless of
the criminal offence.
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It's gonna come down
to do the jurors like you?
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"Was Michael a good parent?"
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"Was Michael a good person?"
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"Did Michael Barnett abandon
his 23-year-old daughter?"
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- You're being judged.
- Ugh.
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Because remember,
the question is...
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- Just the phrase.
I'm being judged.
- "Did Michael Barnett
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abandon his 23-year-old
daughter?"
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The jury is looking to see
if you host
those negative qualities.
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The biggest part
is they're gonna listen
to your daughter.
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And they're gonna listen
to what she has to say.
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"In my opinion,
Michael Barnett's
a piece of."
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How are you gonna respond
to that in front
of those 12 people?
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I have been practicing
for this moment for a decade.
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I have put myself
through the ringer in my head
every night
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since we started
having trouble.
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Let me
ask you this.
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How do you feel about Natalia?
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Natalia's a human being.
Flesh and blood.
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Thinking, caring, feeling,
emoting person.
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Right? Just like you.
Just like me.
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- You know, I didn't hear
you say, "I love her."
- No, you didn't.
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Let me ask you a question
with an anti-answer,
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so not so much
how do I feel about her,
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but how do I not
feel about her?
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There's not gonna be hate.
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There's not gonna be anger.
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I've been a part
of cases where, you know,
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it looks really good,
and then it turns on an issue,
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and the case that I thought
wasn't very good
ends up prevailing.
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Basically, what I'm trying
to say in a nice way
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is sometimes,
you can have a great case,
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the state can have
a case,
the state still wins.
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Yeah.
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Here's the deal
for the lawyers.
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This is only about Michael.
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It is imperative that you not
bring up Kristine.
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We're not defending
Kristine Barnett.
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We'll only be saying,
"Michael Barnett,
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Michael Barnett,
Michael Barnett."
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The parameters of this thing
is, "Did Michael Barnett
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neglect his 23-year-old
daughter?"
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If you're a juror,
and you're hearing
that this person's incapable,
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would it be helpful to you
to see her capabilities
in a multitude of areas?
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So, we have different
video clips.
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Let's play it.
Let's discuss it.
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And let's see what we got.
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Natalia Barnett
running without assistance
in 2011.
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That's gonna be a good one.
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This is
at your house, Michael?
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This is at my house
in Westfield.
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This is after
the first attempt at Kristine.
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She's moving.
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It's what
she's able to do.
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What we use that for
is to show
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that the diminished capacity
that they're speaking of
in Lafayette
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seems to be kind of
an apparition
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because she was totally
capable prior.
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And nothing in her life
changed other than
her geographical location.
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Next video.
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Trash can.
Bringing it in.
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- It's not even on wheels.
No, it's not!
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Put that doughnut down.
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Put that down. Put that down.
Put it down.
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- But why?
- Put it down. Do me a favor.
Put it down.
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- Yes, just drop it.
Drop it.
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Man, give me
my doughnut back.
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- I didn't take your doughnut.
- Hold on. Hold on. Not yet.
Not yet.
241
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- Stop. Stop.
- You can eat,
but you can't talk.
242
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We have important
issues, guys.
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We need to stay,
you know, focused
and not get arrogant
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because we have a strong case.
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We're in a trial.
I'm trying to kick
this girl's ass.
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I'm not trying to be
your friend.
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Natalia's age, if, indeed,
she was only
eight years old,
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her knowledge wasn't there.
249
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Well, she wasn't
eight years old.
She was an adult.
250
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This sounds like
you're trying to make excuses
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for a woman
who dumped her child.
252
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Well, Kyna,
that's his job, so—
253
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No, no. Hold on.
Hold on, Jackie.
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That's not my job,
to make excuses, ma'am.
255
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Stop calling me ma'am.
My name is Miss Weaver
or Kyna.
256
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You can call me either or.
257
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Hey, you need
to stay out of this.
You're not part of this.
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Hey. Stop it.
259
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The Barnetts,
what they did is wrong.
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They're a disgrace.
I think that they're crooks.
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How dare you play
with a human being's life?
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What the
were you thinking?
263
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You know,
it'd be nice to see some...
264
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Some vengeance,
some justice for that.
265
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I hope my testimony
can reveal the truth.
266
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I hope my testimony
can help Natalia.
267
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I hope she can heal from this.
268
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Because she's had a lot
of people, professionals,
even, let her down.
269
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She needs a wing
over her,
and she needs protecting
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because she's up
against a lot.
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Today is the day.
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I'm getting ready
to face my destiny.
273
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A lot of things
going through my mind
right now.
274
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Almost a sense of relief
that it's here.
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In an hour, literally an hour,
I'll be sitting in front
of the judge,
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and it's game time.
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I'm on stage.
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My role is gonna be
innocent-looking guy
sitting still.
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Just...
280
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Ah...
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I'm Traci Grant outside
Tippecanoe County Courthouse
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for day one
of the Michael Barnett trial.
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It's a simple question.
284
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Did Michael Barnett abandon
his 24-year-old daughter?
285
00:17:48,410 --> 00:17:51,000
The Barnetts
have to be held accountable.
286
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You should be ashamed
of yourself.
287
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You put someone through hell.
288
00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,070
And it was a child
that you put through hell,
289
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who already had a disability
and issues and obstacles
290
00:18:03,900 --> 00:18:06,310
that she was gonna
have to overcome,
291
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and you put her through hell.
292
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Good people don't do that.
293
00:18:10,690 --> 00:18:13,590
If there's no justice
to what happened to her,
294
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then she'll feel like
she doesn't matter,
and that's not true.
295
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I pray that Natalia
has the justice
that she seeks,
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the truth comes out,
and all will understand,
297
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and that God is with her
every step of the way.
298
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Amen, and so it be.
299
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A global audience
is eagerly awaiting
the outcome
300
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of one of the biggest trials
of the year.
301
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But due to Indiana state law,
cameras are not permitted
inside the courtroom
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during the trial.
303
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Today, jurors heard
from the manager
of the apartment building
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where the Barnetts
placed Natalia.
305
00:18:51,380 --> 00:18:54,790
Prosecutors tried to prove
not enough was done
306
00:18:54,790 --> 00:18:57,580
for her to live
her daily life comfortably.
307
00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:07,900
Detective Brandon Davenport
says Michael had a lot to say
308
00:19:07,900 --> 00:19:12,450
about how Kristine Barnett
and Natalia were constantly
at odds.
309
00:19:27,210 --> 00:19:32,280
Hearing that comment,
that Kristine said Lafayette
is a white trash town,
310
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no one's gonna care about her,
is not good for the defense.
311
00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,180
Michael's associated
with Kristine.
312
00:19:37,170 --> 00:19:38,380
That's his wife at the time.
313
00:19:38,380 --> 00:19:39,970
So, yeah, that's not good.
314
00:19:55,070 --> 00:19:57,070
I got a call
from my office staff
315
00:19:57,070 --> 00:19:59,070
telling me that this article
hit the paper.
316
00:19:59,070 --> 00:20:03,170
One of the witnesses claimed
that Michael allegedly
made this statement to him,
317
00:20:03,170 --> 00:20:06,620
that they were leaving Natalia
here in Lafayette because
it's a white trash town.
318
00:20:06,620 --> 00:20:08,900
And now it's in the paper.
319
00:20:08,900 --> 00:20:11,000
We gotta figure out
how to deal with this.
320
00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,620
We got the entire city
pissed off at my client.
321
00:20:14,620 --> 00:20:17,520
I think once he understands
the gravity
of what's going on,
322
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,180
I'm pretty sure he's gonna
decompose a little bit.
323
00:20:20,170 --> 00:20:21,520
He's gonna break down
a little bit.
324
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,760
This was a tsunami.
We gotta swim our way
out of this.
325
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,580
This changes everything.
326
00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,450
Day three
of the state of Indiana
versus Michael Barnett
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brought the star witness,
Natalia Barnett,
to the courtroom.
328
00:20:41,590 --> 00:20:44,450
Using a walker,
Natalia was helped
onto the stand
329
00:20:44,450 --> 00:20:46,380
to face the man
who adopted her
330
00:20:46,380 --> 00:20:49,550
and allegedly abandoned her
two years later.
331
00:20:49,550 --> 00:20:50,900
Good morning.
332
00:20:50,900 --> 00:20:54,280
Prosecutors gave Natalia room
to describe
her medical condition
333
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,140
and how much pain
it causes her.
334
00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,690
The biggest bombshell
in the courtroom
335
00:20:58,690 --> 00:21:04,690
was when Kinnard
asked Natalia her birth date,
and she had to say 1989.
336
00:21:04,690 --> 00:21:10,140
That reinforced the fact
that this case was not
going to be based on age.
337
00:21:12,030 --> 00:21:16,060
Towards the end
of her testimony,
Natalia broke down in tears.
338
00:21:16,070 --> 00:21:20,140
Natalia was the last witness
in the prosecution's
case-in-chief.
339
00:21:20,140 --> 00:21:22,690
And when she
was cross-examined
by Michael's attorney,
340
00:21:22,690 --> 00:21:24,450
she was asked
a series of questions
341
00:21:24,450 --> 00:21:26,590
where she couldn't remember
the answers,
342
00:21:26,590 --> 00:21:30,590
and she was chided
and challenged and criticized
for not remembering.
343
00:21:30,590 --> 00:21:35,590
But jurors don't know
that Anna Gava is Natalia's
biological mother
344
00:21:35,590 --> 00:21:38,350
and that Natalia was born
in 2003.
345
00:21:38,340 --> 00:21:40,480
So these questions
she's being asked
346
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,240
and details
she doesn't remember
347
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:46,790
involve times
when she was six, seven,
eight, nine years old.
348
00:21:46,790 --> 00:21:50,170
No wonder
she doesn't remember.
349
00:21:50,170 --> 00:21:54,690
I can't wrap my head
around the fact that jurors
don't know
350
00:21:54,690 --> 00:22:00,550
the most fundamental fact
in this whole saga,
351
00:22:00,550 --> 00:22:05,860
and that is how old
is Natalia Barnett, really?
352
00:22:10,340 --> 00:22:12,270
After closing arguments
were completed,
353
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:16,690
observers in the courtroom
said it seemed like a draw,
it could go either way.
354
00:22:16,690 --> 00:22:19,410
And now it's in the hands
of the jury.
355
00:22:30,170 --> 00:22:31,650
A little upsetting.
356
00:22:32,590 --> 00:22:36,140
Because she should
have been my granddaughter,
357
00:22:36,140 --> 00:22:38,660
and she didn't end up
being my granddaughter.
358
00:22:45,070 --> 00:22:47,140
One o'clock on a Thursday,
why not?
359
00:22:57,450 --> 00:22:59,280
- I know.
360
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,590
Everything that they said
in their case was, "Kristine,
Kristine, Kristine, Kristine.
361
00:23:03,590 --> 00:23:05,900
Michael wasn't really
that bad."
362
00:23:05,900 --> 00:23:07,690
They'll go get her ass.
363
00:23:07,690 --> 00:23:09,590
Every jury is different,
364
00:23:09,590 --> 00:23:13,250
There's no commonality
other than
their assigned task-
365
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,410
listen to this information,
and make a decision.
366
00:23:20,690 --> 00:23:24,790
Nationwide, prosecutors win
98% of their cases.
367
00:23:24,790 --> 00:23:28,890
Yeah, most of them plea,
but they also win about
the same percentage of trials.
368
00:23:28,900 --> 00:23:30,590
Trials are hard
to win.
369
00:23:30,590 --> 00:23:33,250
Don't go telling me
that now.
370
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,070
Where was this 98% stuff
three years ago?
371
00:23:36,070 --> 00:23:38,590
You were told.
You had no choice.
372
00:23:38,590 --> 00:23:40,800
Now the worry
can really begin.
373
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,760
What you got here?
374
00:23:48,380 --> 00:23:50,350
That looks like pepperoni.
375
00:24:02,590 --> 00:24:05,280
I think it might
be worthy to speak
a little bit
376
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,040
about the judge.
377
00:24:07,030 --> 00:24:09,340
He was probably
the best judge for this case.
378
00:24:09,340 --> 00:24:13,890
His temperament is even.
He gives both sides respect.
379
00:24:13,900 --> 00:24:16,280
- Oh, my, God. Damn it.
That's my heart.
380
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,560
- Oh, that's the court.
381
00:24:18,550 --> 00:24:20,760
Is it?
- I'll put it on speaker.
382
00:24:22,790 --> 00:24:24,070
Hi, it's Terrance.
383
00:24:24,070 --> 00:24:25,350
Hi, Mr. Kinnard.
384
00:24:25,340 --> 00:24:28,000
It's Ashley
from Superior Court II.
We have a verdict.
385
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,790
Not a question?
386
00:24:29,790 --> 00:24:32,000
Not a question, a verdict.
387
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,690
Okay. I'm gonna go vomit,
and then I'll be right there.
388
00:24:34,690 --> 00:24:36,140
Okay. Bye.
389
00:24:37,030 --> 00:24:38,790
- Oh,
390
00:24:40,690 --> 00:24:42,790
- That was quick.
391
00:24:42,790 --> 00:24:43,960
Quick is bad.
392
00:24:50,030 --> 00:24:51,340
Let's do it.
393
00:24:51,340 --> 00:24:53,200
Yes, sir.
394
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,550
That icy numbness
can wash all over me.
I can't think. I can't feel.
395
00:25:04,900 --> 00:25:07,070
I don't have words.
396
00:25:07,070 --> 00:25:08,550
- I just don't. Hi.
- Hi, sweetie.
397
00:25:08,550 --> 00:25:10,650
- How are you?
- I know.
398
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,170
It's in the hands
of the jury.
399
00:25:16,170 --> 00:25:18,550
Nothing you can do
to change it.
400
00:25:18,550 --> 00:25:19,860
It's done.
401
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,240
Jury deliberations
have concluded
402
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:33,310
in the Michael Barnett trial,
reaching a verdict
in just a couple of hours.
403
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,380
- I'm going up to four.
- Okay.
404
00:25:45,380 --> 00:25:47,000
See you up there.
405
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,870
There's not anything
you can do.
406
00:25:56,590 --> 00:25:58,140
You know what?
We just finished this case.
407
00:25:58,140 --> 00:26:00,970
We didn't... We're not allowed
to talk about adoption.
408
00:26:00,970 --> 00:26:02,250
We're not allowed
to talk about age.
409
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,270
We're not allowed to talk
about mental health records.
410
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,040
We're not allowed to talk
about her stating to us
411
00:26:07,030 --> 00:26:08,580
and saying
she wants to kill us.
412
00:26:08,590 --> 00:26:10,690
We're not allowed to talk
about the statement saying
413
00:26:10,690 --> 00:26:13,170
that she didn't wanna
be around us anymore.
414
00:26:13,170 --> 00:26:17,960
We're coming down
to the teeniest
circumstantial evidence
415
00:26:17,970 --> 00:26:19,350
from 12 years ago.
416
00:27:33,030 --> 00:27:34,270
Breathe air. Breathe air,
417
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:35,900
- It might be over?
- Over? Well...
418
00:27:37,030 --> 00:27:38,960
Believe it is.
419
00:27:40,030 --> 00:27:44,270
They said I'm not guilty.
Like, I'm... Everybody knows.
420
00:27:46,970 --> 00:27:49,490
It's... It's...
It's...
421
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,270
It took 12 strangers
about an hour-and-a-half
422
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,660
to figure out I wasn't guilty
on four felony charges.
423
00:27:58,790 --> 00:28:00,760
It might be over.
424
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,490
It might be over.
425
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,860
The 12 jurors only took
a couple hours
426
00:28:07,860 --> 00:28:11,140
to find him
not guilty of every count.
427
00:28:11,140 --> 00:28:15,970
All four counts- not guilty.
Clean sweep. Complete victory
for the defense.
428
00:28:17,170 --> 00:28:21,580
But I'll tell you what.
This is not a vindication.
429
00:28:21,590 --> 00:28:24,350
Michael got lucky.
Michael dodged a bullet.
430
00:28:27,900 --> 00:28:30,280
Jurors did not
have all the facts.
431
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,040
They based their decision
on the limited information
that they were given.
432
00:28:34,030 --> 00:28:37,890
I would want to ask the jury
in Michael's case
433
00:28:37,900 --> 00:28:40,040
if their verdict
would have been different
434
00:28:40,030 --> 00:28:45,380
had they known Natalia
was an elementary-school-
aged child
435
00:28:45,380 --> 00:28:47,690
when she was left
to fend for herself.
436
00:28:47,690 --> 00:28:49,380
A child.
437
00:28:49,380 --> 00:28:52,310
Would they have made
a different decision?
438
00:28:57,660 --> 00:28:59,110
Oh!
439
00:29:09,380 --> 00:29:10,970
My name
is Jayne Parker.
440
00:29:10,970 --> 00:29:14,760
I served as the foreperson
for the Michael Barnett trial.
441
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,030
I was born and raised
in Indiana.
442
00:29:19,030 --> 00:29:22,100
I'm Hoosier by birth
but boilermaker
by the grace of God.
443
00:29:24,380 --> 00:29:27,760
During the trial,
there's tons of questions
444
00:29:28,380 --> 00:29:30,660
that really never
got answered.
445
00:29:30,660 --> 00:29:33,280
As we started
the deliberation process,
446
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:39,380
100% of the jurors, 100%,
definitely believed
447
00:29:39,380 --> 00:29:43,480
that Michael Barnett
was guilty of abandoning her.
448
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:49,270
But because the judge
was very, very clear
on what we had to follow,
449
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:54,380
people were just like,
"Ugh, we have to go
'Not guilty' Ugh."
450
00:29:54,380 --> 00:29:59,970
And that was the tone
in the room. "Oh, my God.
He's gonna be 'Not guilty.'"
451
00:29:59,970 --> 00:30:01,280
You know, "This sucks."
452
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,800
So that night,
when I got home,
I was straight on my computer.
453
00:30:05,790 --> 00:30:09,580
I watched the Dr. Phil episode
after the trial.
454
00:30:09,590 --> 00:30:11,660
- How old are you?
- I'm 16.
455
00:30:11,660 --> 00:30:15,140
- When is your birthday?
- Um, September 4th, 2003.
456
00:30:15,140 --> 00:30:17,970
You say you're 16.
457
00:30:17,970 --> 00:30:20,140
Are you a 33-year-old
scam artist?
458
00:30:20,140 --> 00:30:21,800
No.
459
00:30:21,790 --> 00:30:23,270
No.
460
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,870
It seems to show
that Natalia actually
461
00:30:26,860 --> 00:30:30,790
is closer to 19 now,
which would have made her nine
462
00:30:30,790 --> 00:30:33,340
at the time she was left
in that apartment.
463
00:30:34,380 --> 00:30:35,970
That's crazy.
464
00:30:35,970 --> 00:30:38,760
You just think,
"What a creepy guy.
465
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,110
Who does that
with his daughter?"
466
00:30:41,100 --> 00:30:45,130
If that's true,
and that we weren't given
that information,
467
00:30:45,140 --> 00:30:48,590
that seems like a huge
miscarriage of justice.
468
00:30:48,590 --> 00:30:52,040
We felt that Michael Barnett
had really gotten away
469
00:30:52,030 --> 00:30:54,690
with abandoning
and neglecting his child.
470
00:30:54,690 --> 00:30:57,310
And none of us
felt good about that.
471
00:30:59,900 --> 00:31:00,970
Holy.
472
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,590
Yo, Dad.
- Jacob! They didn't even
have to debate anything.
473
00:31:06,590 --> 00:31:09,870
They went in there,
and they knew instantly
I was not guilty.
474
00:31:09,860 --> 00:31:12,270
It's not even...
They didn't even
have to argue or discuss it.
475
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,900
They all knew it.
476
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,100
It is... It is, like,
90% behind me.
477
00:31:21,100 --> 00:31:24,480
I'll have to deal with certain
little fallout from it
the rest of my life.
478
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,380
Right after
the judge got finished
reading the verdict
479
00:31:28,380 --> 00:31:31,590
and the jury left
the courtroom,
480
00:31:31,590 --> 00:31:34,800
the prosecutor then decided
right then and there
481
00:31:34,790 --> 00:31:38,030
to let me know
that she has now subpoenaed me
to testify against your mommy.
482
00:31:41,590 --> 00:31:44,180
Immediately upon
being acquitted,
483
00:31:45,790 --> 00:31:48,480
Michael no longer had
a Fifth Amendment right
484
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,170
against self-incrimination,
right?
485
00:31:50,170 --> 00:31:53,790
So he was served
with a subpoena to testify
at Kristine's trial.
486
00:31:53,790 --> 00:31:57,960
Now, you say, "How could
a husband be compelled
to testify against a wife?
487
00:31:57,970 --> 00:31:58,970
Isn't there a privilege?"
488
00:31:58,970 --> 00:32:00,760
Yes, there is
a spousal privilege.
489
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,450
However, there is
an exception
when a crime is afoot.
490
00:32:06,790 --> 00:32:10,380
This now becomes almost
a Rubik's Cube on steroids
491
00:32:10,380 --> 00:32:14,000
because there's more
information in the mix.
492
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,900
And they're gonna have
a real shot at getting
Kristine, his ex-wife.
493
00:32:16,900 --> 00:32:19,280
It appears to me, at least,
that the charges
494
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,040
that they brought
against Michael Barnett,
495
00:32:21,030 --> 00:32:26,270
they did that somewhat
in the sense of a trial run
for the trial against her.
496
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,490
It would be absolute
beautiful justice
497
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,690
if Kristine Barnett
was found guilty
498
00:32:31,690 --> 00:32:36,590
here in Lafayette, Indiana,
where she called everyone
white trash.
499
00:32:36,590 --> 00:32:39,590
Kristine, is there
anything you wanna say?
- No comment.
500
00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:41,870
I'd also say
to Kristine Barnett
501
00:32:41,860 --> 00:32:43,690
that I hope justice is done
502
00:32:43,690 --> 00:32:47,480
and that, rightfully so,
you should pay
503
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:48,890
for abandoning a child.
504
00:32:48,900 --> 00:32:51,000
I hope she goes through hell.
505
00:32:54,900 --> 00:32:57,760
I do think Michael Barnett,
what he's been through,
506
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,040
if he had an opportunity
to testify against
his ex-wife, Kristine,
507
00:33:01,030 --> 00:33:03,270
he would do it in a heartbeat.
508
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,380
You will testify
against Kristine,
or you won't?
509
00:33:06,380 --> 00:33:11,450
Do I want to testify
against my ex-wife,
the mother of my children?
510
00:33:12,690 --> 00:33:16,860
What I want is for her
to burn in hell.
511
00:33:44,550 --> 00:33:48,790
The emotions
after trial,
they're up and down.
512
00:33:48,790 --> 00:33:52,130
It's been the first days
of natural breathing
513
00:33:52,140 --> 00:33:55,660
that I've had in many years.
514
00:33:55,660 --> 00:34:01,250
It has truly felt
like there is a ten-ton anvil
over my head.
515
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:03,970
Right up there.
516
00:34:03,970 --> 00:34:07,800
And unfortunately,
that anvil is connected
by just one single thread.
517
00:34:07,790 --> 00:34:08,890
Teeny, tiny, little thread.
518
00:34:08,900 --> 00:34:12,140
And if that wasn't, you know,
stress-inducing enough,
519
00:34:12,140 --> 00:34:16,380
there's, like, a cartoon
cayote up there
with a giant pair of scissors.
520
00:34:16,380 --> 00:34:19,970
That just chop and crush me.
521
00:34:19,970 --> 00:34:22,590
That's not there now.
522
00:34:22,590 --> 00:34:27,010
So as the trial ended,
Natalia and I
had this moment together
523
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,170
while everybody's off
in a sidebar
524
00:34:29,170 --> 00:34:30,860
where there's nobody left
in the courtroom.
525
00:34:30,860 --> 00:34:35,960
All I can see is Natalia.
526
00:34:35,970 --> 00:34:41,070
So as we're having this moment
together, we lock eyes.
527
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,660
She just looks at me
and does, like, a little wave.
528
00:34:44,660 --> 00:34:47,350
A little wave back from me.
529
00:34:48,170 --> 00:34:50,650
And I mouthed
something to her,
530
00:34:50,660 --> 00:34:53,690
and I think she was able
to get it.
531
00:34:53,690 --> 00:34:59,380
I just simply said,
"This is hard. I'm sorry."
532
00:34:59,380 --> 00:35:01,280
Now, she was going
through something
really tough.
533
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,560
Turning Natalia's testimony
and depositions,
534
00:35:03,550 --> 00:35:09,590
it was a relief to me
to honestly hear her
describe some of the things
535
00:35:09,590 --> 00:35:12,140
that Kristine did to her.
536
00:35:12,140 --> 00:35:14,970
Kristine trying to beat
the truth out of her.
537
00:35:14,970 --> 00:35:19,010
But she didn't expand on that.
538
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,860
There was no additional,
"Oh, and Michael this,
and Michael that,
539
00:35:21,860 --> 00:35:23,790
and Michael this"
because Michael didn't.
540
00:35:23,790 --> 00:35:28,480
I'm not the bad guy.
I'm not a bad guy.
I'm not mean.
541
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:29,860
I didn't harm her.
542
00:35:30,690 --> 00:35:33,830
One moment I'm exonerated.
543
00:35:34,790 --> 00:35:36,690
I am... It's over.
544
00:35:36,690 --> 00:35:41,860
I have fought
a very-hard-fought victory.
545
00:35:41,860 --> 00:35:45,690
And my brain
is saving strength
for the fight
546
00:35:45,690 --> 00:35:47,590
that I've got coming.
547
00:35:47,590 --> 00:35:50,490
So, as far as me
being subpoenaed
548
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,690
to potentially testify
at Kristine's trial...
549
00:35:52,690 --> 00:35:55,170
Because I've just gone through
what I've gone through,
550
00:35:55,170 --> 00:35:57,760
I have got protection
called double jeopardy.
551
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,380
Double jeopardy basically
meaning anything
that came out
552
00:36:01,380 --> 00:36:04,590
during the investigation
of this case,
553
00:36:04,590 --> 00:36:06,970
they can't go back
and charge me for.
554
00:36:06,970 --> 00:36:11,140
The prosecutor had made it
very, very verbally clear
555
00:36:11,140 --> 00:36:15,110
they're going after Kristine,
and they want her
in the ground.
556
00:36:20,900 --> 00:36:22,350
She's petrified.
557
00:36:23,170 --> 00:36:25,270
She's scared to death,
and she knows it.
558
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,210
I want Kristine to go to jail.
559
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,630
There's not a line
she's not willing to cross.
560
00:36:33,030 --> 00:36:34,790
I don't care what Kristine's
gonna say about me,
561
00:36:34,790 --> 00:36:36,790
and I'm going to assume
the worst at all times.
562
00:36:36,790 --> 00:36:41,240
And she has already done
all the damage to me
that she can do.
563
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,280
What else is she gonna do?
564
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,560
What's she gonna do?
565
00:36:57,170 --> 00:37:00,790
As far as this trial
goes for Kristine,
566
00:37:00,790 --> 00:37:03,270
when I got the call
from a Detective Davenport
567
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,280
from the sex trafficking
division of Indiana
state police,
568
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,900
I was kind of taken back
because of my past
569
00:37:08,900 --> 00:37:13,140
and enjoying the company
of women,
570
00:37:13,140 --> 00:37:15,180
sometimes paid-for women.
571
00:37:15,170 --> 00:37:19,000
Just gonna say.
I'm not a bad guy,
but guys have needs.
572
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,590
Anyhow, um...
573
00:37:20,590 --> 00:37:23,690
And he said, "Well, this is
Detective Davenport
from Indiana state police.
574
00:37:23,690 --> 00:37:28,690
Do you know Kristine?
They adopted
a young woman, Natalia."
575
00:37:28,690 --> 00:37:31,790
I said, "Yeah, I think
she mentioned something
about that."
576
00:37:31,790 --> 00:37:35,130
And he wanted to know
if I'd ever dated Natalia,
577
00:37:35,140 --> 00:37:38,280
and I kind of was...
Well, I was,
like, flabbergasted.
578
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:44,140
Basically, someone asking me
had I ever had sexual
relations with Natalia.
579
00:37:44,140 --> 00:37:46,760
In my mind, I'm thinking,
"What the
are you talking about, dude?"
580
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,480
I'm like, "Whoa."
581
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,270
You know, I'm gonna say,
it definitely
took my breath away.
582
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,590
"You don't have to feel bad,"
he said. "Even if you
kissed her, I need to know,
583
00:37:55,590 --> 00:37:57,690
but you're not gonna
get in trouble,"
I think is what he said.
584
00:37:57,690 --> 00:38:03,040
And I said, "No, I've never
been intimate
with a little person ever
585
00:38:03,030 --> 00:38:04,860
in my entire life.
I know that,
586
00:38:04,860 --> 00:38:09,480
so I know that I never...
That this is not somebody
I met and forgot about."
587
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,960
And I had met Kristine
and Jacob
when I was on the road.
588
00:38:12,970 --> 00:38:16,180
I don't know how the officer,
the detective, got my name,
589
00:38:16,170 --> 00:38:19,380
other than maybe he saw
on the message
590
00:38:19,380 --> 00:38:22,040
where Kristine tried
to set me up with her.
591
00:38:22,030 --> 00:38:25,380
But I didn't take the bait.
No reply from me.
592
00:38:25,380 --> 00:38:27,690
I just went, like, "Eugh."
593
00:38:27,690 --> 00:38:31,040
It gave me shivers to think
that anybody would even
remotely do that.
594
00:38:31,030 --> 00:38:33,790
I don't go there,
and I think that people
that do go there
595
00:38:33,790 --> 00:38:35,270
need to have
their balls chopped off.
596
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,110
It just really
is disgusting. Yeah.
597
00:39:07,140 --> 00:39:09,970
I... I... I...
I'm not gonna pay attention.
I truly don't care.
598
00:39:30,030 --> 00:39:31,860
We have had many pushes
and pulls.
599
00:39:31,860 --> 00:39:33,790
This is the last thing
I'll do.
600
00:39:33,790 --> 00:39:37,100
Everything else from now on
that I say, "No" is no.
601
00:39:41,660 --> 00:39:42,940
Whose computer is this?
602
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:45,860
How many pieces
do you want it back in?
603
00:39:45,860 --> 00:39:47,830
- I'm not kidding.
604
00:39:48,860 --> 00:39:51,550
I don't care what's in this.
605
00:39:51,550 --> 00:39:56,170
It... It truly
doesn't affect me
606
00:39:56,170 --> 00:39:59,930
what Kristine tells
random people in the public
about me.
607
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,790
Kristine told me
in a series of messages
608
00:40:05,790 --> 00:40:09,270
Natalia ruined her life
in so many ways.
609
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:13,660
Kristine basically said
that Natalia started...
610
00:40:13,660 --> 00:40:16,010
no!
611
00:40:17,140 --> 00:40:18,450
Guys, mics off.
612
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:23,110
Look, I don't wanna
talk about this part at all.
613
00:40:26,100 --> 00:40:28,960
When I testify
in the trial
of Kristine Barnett,
614
00:40:28,970 --> 00:40:33,180
I'm gonna be doing
the right thing,
telling the truth.
615
00:40:33,170 --> 00:40:35,100
I guess I'll see you guys
in court.
616
00:40:44,860 --> 00:40:47,550
Michael's trial
is over.
617
00:40:47,550 --> 00:40:50,450
He won. He's a free man.
He has his liberty.
618
00:40:51,970 --> 00:40:54,380
He may still have to answer
to some of this, though,
619
00:40:54,380 --> 00:40:56,140
in the court
of public opinion.
620
00:40:56,140 --> 00:41:00,380
Michael Barnett being found
not guilty was very disturbing
and infuriating.
621
00:41:00,380 --> 00:41:03,860
Everything was stacked
against Natalia.
She didn't have a chance.
622
00:41:03,860 --> 00:41:06,860
Poor Natalia.
We can't do this to her.
623
00:41:06,860 --> 00:41:08,690
You have
to be held accountable
624
00:41:08,690 --> 00:41:11,040
for the decisions you make
in life.
625
00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:15,380
This whole Natalia situation,
don't think I'll ever
deal with it again.
626
00:41:15,380 --> 00:41:18,450
You know, knock on wood,
but it was just a nightmare.
627
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,550
The whole cliche
of, "Time heals all wounds,"
628
00:41:24,550 --> 00:41:26,550
I don't think it's really
all that true.
629
00:41:27,380 --> 00:41:29,170
But it just makes it
so you can move on.
630
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:35,930
I think time now needs
to start doing its job.
631
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,900
It was an odd feeling
that Michael Barnett
really got away.
632
00:41:40,900 --> 00:41:41,970
It was something.
633
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:57,760
It's okay.
634
00:42:05,790 --> 00:42:07,580
That's all right.
You're not getting
the crying version.
635
00:42:07,590 --> 00:42:09,870
If you want
the crying version,
I'll buss that one out.
49459
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