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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:25,000 [Music] 2 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:30,000 we found six bodies plus a few beer cans 3 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:35,000 a whole lot of broken flowerpots cigarette butts we're sending everything 4 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:42,000 to the lab but I don't expect much yeah 5 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:55,000 well they're they're pretty old 6 00:00:55,000 --> 00:01:04,000 James what are you doing 7 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:10,000 they're circle they were buried in a circle 8 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:19,000 we know that what's wrong with you 9 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:27,000 dig here we already had 10 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:41,000 dig deeper 11 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:47,000 [Music] 12 00:01:47,000 --> 00:02:05,000 [Music] 13 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:10,000 [Music] 14 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:25,000 [Music] 15 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:33,000 the bones you found yesterday belong to a male approximate age 14 who wore a brace on his left leg victim number 16 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:40,000 seven no that's just it he's been dead for over thirty years long before the other boys were no remnants of grove no 17 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:45,000 similarities at all to the other bodies found and here's the kicker wasn't buried alive 18 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:53,000 he was shot it'll be hell trying to match him with a missing persons report if one exists if he was reported missing 19 00:02:53,000 --> 00:03:01,000 if it was 30 not 40 years ago the only thing we have to go on is the brace he 20 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:09,000 was wearing a leg brace what his name's 21 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:14,000 Eddie I talked to him when I was a child 22 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:22,000 you knew him he was already dead Eddie 23 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:29,000 what is Eddie you have the last name you didn't say could you find out it maybe 24 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:35,000 if you held one of the bones you might be able to feel something oh no I can't 25 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:46,000 do that why no I just I can't his name is Andy he's 13 26 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:54,000 I've raised him since her mother died last year his brown eyes and he's about five feet tall 27 00:03:54,000 --> 00:04:30,000 [Music] 28 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:35,000 [Music] 29 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:46,000 [Music] 30 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:51,000 hey how you doing you want to see 31 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:57,000 something neat it's a turtle where'd you 32 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:06,000 find him on top of this log what's your name I'm James Eddie I met you once 33 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:18,000 before when I was a boy oh yeah I remember what's your last name cats 34 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:28,000 Eddie cats nice to meet you Eddie cats 35 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:36,000 you got a name it's a she I caught her laying eggs Myrtle Myrtle the turtle 36 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:44,000 Myrtle the turtles turtle funny yes well 37 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:51,000 I try I do too want to know what I did to my stepdad once if you want my pet 38 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:58,000 frog Benji so I caught a bunch more and put it in his new car he's screamed real high like a girl and 39 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:04,000 someone called the cops why you're 40 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:13,000 pretty funny too 41 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:20,000 leaving my friend my mom worries that I 42 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:25,000 don't have any friends 43 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:33,000 been on 44 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:41,000 you can hold her if you want 45 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:47,000 you want to tell me what happened what do you mean he's been here a long time 46 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:54,000 any what happened to make his there I don't know what you're talking about 47 00:06:54,000 --> 00:07:17,000 oh no no what's wrong you all right I'm 48 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:32,000 fine okay just give it a minute 49 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:38,000 cats Eddie cats 50 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:43,000 it was shot in May of 63 51 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:50,000 killer I guess felt guilty something he brought offerings over 30 years he 52 00:07:50,000 --> 00:08:02,000 brought flowers at about seven years ago something happened something changed set of flowers he bought boys oh my god 53 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:07,000 I'm sorry it's the last thing I should be talking about it James it's fine I'm 54 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:16,000 like can you tell me stuff that helps me get my mind off my own little adventure she comes let go tell her I want some 55 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:25,000 stuff to make my hair grow back she says I gotta go someplace else for that matter cats was her only Son she 56 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:32,000 was 15 when she got pregnant with them but she refused her after Eddie 57 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:38,000 disappeared she had a breakdown was hospitalized herself together and even 58 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:44,000 started her own business you may have heard of it I got home that 59 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:51,000 day and Eddie wasn't home from school I didn't think much of it some days he 60 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:58,000 wouldn't go to school at all my kids made fun of him 61 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:05,000 when he wasn't home by 7:00 I started getting worried where would he go any 62 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:14,000 skips go off my health I don't know he was such a loner I called the police and 63 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:20,000 they told me they couldn't do anything for 48 hours we look for spanking it was 64 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:25,000 my fault I should have been tougher I was always taught to respect them you 65 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:31,000 know I'm sure it was too late Mollie even before you'd made your first 66 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:40,000 phone call 67 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:48,000 I didn't take care of myself when I was 68 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:54,000 dragged and smoked and when he was born 69 00:09:54,000 --> 00:10:08,000 with his leg that he walks just fine now 70 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:14,000 what he doesn't mean his brace even 71 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:23,000 though he still wears it he he walks just fine James is a psychic Molly he 72 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:31,000 helped us find Eddie you you talked to 73 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:37,000 him yes is he all right 74 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:44,000 he loves you daddy misses you 75 00:10:44,000 --> 00:11:05,000 but he's happy 76 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:35,000 [Music] 77 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:40,000 I wanted to show you something with her did these killings and you were Eddie 78 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:47,000 was buried covered the grave of crockery and surrounded it with six other victims 79 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:53,000 we find the guy who killed - Eddie we find the guy who killed the others there's one thing that bothers me 80 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:59,000 Eddie's here in the middle right it's not a perfect circle round up number six 81 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:05,000 is buried a little further back he's starting a second circle I think we got 82 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:11,000 something here 83 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:27,000 [Music] 84 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:32,000 [Music] 85 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:38,000 and so Molly's beloved son Edward cats who was taken from us so many years ago 86 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:44,000 he's now laid in his final resting place but he continues to reside in peace and 87 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:51,000 love both in our thoughts and prayers and in the arms of the Lord forever and 88 00:12:51,000 --> 00:13:18,000 ever 89 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:25,000 she's still with you 90 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:31,000 it was all his fault he was a drunk with 91 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:37,000 the usual baggage and then some he was driving her home from her first year in 92 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:46,000 college I was supposed to do it but I was writing a paper 93 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:52,000 so anything good you remember about him not a thing 94 00:13:52,000 --> 00:14:01,000 every once in a while when I was little he used to smoke a pipe tell us stories 95 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:06,000 I still remember the smell whiskey and 96 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:12,000 tobacco what kind of stories cop stories 97 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:34,000 he was one too back to work 98 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:44,000 Molly if there's anything we can do just let us know okay thanks for so long I 99 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:50,000 thought he'd show up at the house the bell would ring I'd open the door and 100 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:57,000 there would be any older sure but looking just fine I knew he was alive 101 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:03,000 I even had proof I reported it to the 102 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:11,000 police so I figured in you reported what two years after it happened he started 103 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:17,000 sending me flowers on Christmas and Mother's Day every year for over 30 104 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:28,000 years who did Eddie I had some problems you 105 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:33,000 don't like me hmm I called the station 106 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:39,000 then the detective said he'd check it out and get back to me but he never did I figured he thought if Eddie was 107 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:45,000 sending me flowers then he was no longer missing but it wasn't Eddie I could hope 108 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:53,000 good night it was his killer who sent them wasn't 109 00:15:53,000 --> 00:16:06,000 it [Music] 110 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:11,000 No may I help you yes I'm detective Karen 111 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:17,000 Condren hi Jen I'm fine we're trying to trace the source of some 112 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:24,000 flower deliveries the store made over a period of 30 years to mrs. Molly cats - 113 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:41,000 two - OH Vanguard Avenue 114 00:16:41,000 --> 00:17:00,000 [Music] 115 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:07,000 oh I remember this he would always fall in the order in twice a year on 116 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:13,000 Christmas and Mother's Day and then he would send cash in the mail what did he 117 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:27,000 sound like I don't know uh male middle-aged wait a minute 118 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:34,000 nope sorry have lost it but old-timers disease hey Linda oh hey - did you 119 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:40,000 forget something no but you did you forgot to put a stamp on this Oh see I'm just falling to 120 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:49,000 pieces you're still worried about me huh yeah well I am going through some pretty 121 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:55,000 weird stuff but hey you know Columbus set off from Spain that was weird 122 00:17:55,000 --> 00:18:02,000 his parents probably freaked out too no not that I'm Columbus but you know I am 123 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:10,000 I am sort of in a in a new world here dad I'm starting to help people 124 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:19,000 dad I'm starting to feel important I've never I've never felt that way before 125 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:27,000 look maybe if you saw me you know doing this at work I've started working with 126 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:33,000 this this man has been helping people like this for a for a long time maybe 127 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:55,000 she has sessions every Wednesday night if you could come to one 128 00:18:55,000 --> 00:19:00,000 excuse me detective 129 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:06,000 you know that letter that I was trying to send it was to the IRS but it's like talking to a wall communicating with 130 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:13,000 them they just don't want to listen I'm not following you oh well it reminded me that was all uh 131 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:19,000 of the man who sent the flowers I remember who he was but you said you'd 132 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:25,000 never seen it no now the last time I did he came in person just like it didn't 133 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:30,000 matter anymore after all those years of trying to stay anonymous and then but I 134 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:39,000 recognized him from the billboards what billboards well it was all over town oh 135 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:47,000 he was the taxman you know he did people's taxes I'm so glad I caught you 136 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:56,000 hey good luck 137 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:02,000 yeah sure from when I was a kid he played Santa every year down at the Y 138 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:08,000 gave a bunch of money to my Boy Scout troop that's over every year for a barbecue he was a great guy 139 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:14,000 he's still here yeah I'd say so impressive place up on Chestnut Hill 140 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:20,000 biggest monument in the cemetery it's been dead for like eight or nine years 141 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:31,000 after school he went to the wire he loved to swim he always caught the 142 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:37,000 bus back after but the driver said he didn't see him that night I don't mean to alarm you sandy but other boys have 143 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:44,000 disappeared and we need to know if Andy has anything in common with them Eddie 144 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:49,000 cats Venice Branston Michael O'Donnell 145 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:55,000 there are others there aren't any of 146 00:20:55,000 --> 00:21:02,000 Andy's friends no no there wouldn't be but if I give you these reports could you go through them and see if these 147 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:13,000 boys share any characteristics with your brother tell me your name again I'm 148 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:19,000 sorry Jennifer Jennifer right Jennifer there's somebody who wants to speak to 149 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:27,000 you give me the initial s does that make 150 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:34,000 any sense Sam Stanley that's right say he's telling me that that he you were 151 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:43,000 gonna move in together but you couldn't that people were interfering right people were interfering and he's telling 152 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:50,000 me about he's very excited he Dimond he did he did he get an 153 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:57,000 engagement ring yes yes yes but he's he's going like this I don't know what I don't know what that means he's going 154 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:04,000 yes yeah and he wants you to know that he's he's grateful to you he's grateful 155 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:12,000 for that did you uh feed and bathe him is yes right he was worried he said that he 156 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:18,000 was worried that you I'm not I don't know what I'm getting a soup does that 157 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:24,000 soup hot tomato soup that was his favorite right right I used to test it to make sure it wasn't 158 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:31,000 too hot Ryan he was afraid he was afraid that I would get sick sharing his spoon but I told him it didn't work that way 159 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:38,000 he understands that I didn't get three Nutella he knows that he knows that and he he knows that and he wants you to 160 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:43,000 know that he loves you and then I didn't you he loves you in here and he wants to 161 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:51,000 know he's fine he's fine he's fine but you have you have to move on you have to move on see cuz he has to move on too he 162 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:59,000 has to move on and you need to get rid of the ring and just put it away take the ring off and put it away see that's why he's come he's come here 163 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:06,000 to say goodbye Jennifer he's come and say goodbye see you 164 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:17,000 yes to leave and you've got to let him go 165 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:23,000 Jennifer the devil always tell you what you want to hear just like the living 166 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:32,000 but whenever they come through it's always I love Thank You Jennifer 167 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:50,000 James petunia all right I'm getting a 168 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:56,000 communication from a woman whose son is here Rachel her name's Rachel anyone 169 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:03,000 know anyone ever mother who's Rachel she 170 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:11,000 says her son's name is Ben is there is there a Ben hear her son's name is Ben Sarah are you Ben yeah you're Ben yes 171 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:22,000 but my mother's name is ava and she's alive right Rachel saying that she she's 172 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:30,000 telling me that she died in childbirth she died does that make any sense to you Ben no I mean my mother had a sister 173 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:43,000 named Rachel but she died of appendicitis well I guess I uh I made a 174 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:48,000 mistake that happens I'm new to this it's quite all right sir 175 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:54,000 welcome glad you could go oh talking 176 00:24:54,000 --> 00:25:00,000 about me right now I have no one to oh just made a fool of 177 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:06,000 myself in front of my father it's better half my lifetime praying for this ability to go away it finally does 178 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:17,000 just what I don't want it to it's going away no I don't know why does that bother you nothing bothers 179 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:28,000 me anymore I'll get me popcorn stuck in my tooth can't get it out I hate that in the pain 180 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:34,000 and it bothers me so it was in my looks 181 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:46,000 my hope which is why I'm giving up chemo 182 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:52,000 what I'm dying James it's no getting 183 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:58,000 around it when I go out with grace and here 184 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:04,000 [Music] 185 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:16,000 as a girl isn't that hooker [Music] 186 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:23,000 I'm the girl a baby she died at birth 187 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:31,000 about five years you'd be fine now 188 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:37,000 [Music] she is 5 189 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:42,000 is she the reason why you want to die 190 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:53,000 she will be five and happy whether you died 191 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:59,000 it's too late James no there's nothing you can you can fight this right now you 192 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:08,000 can beat this disease James there's way too late no it isn't it isn't now you 193 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:33,000 you can't just quit you know you gotta fight this 194 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:42,000 [Music] 195 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:54,000 and I [Music] 196 00:27:54,000 --> 00:28:01,000 [Music] 197 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:06,000 now I know I should change the name patricelli and Sons I'm the only one left 198 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:12,000 my brother Lester had pancreatic cancers very sudden was a shock to the whole 199 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:21,000 family their dad's been dead even longer you were hunters yeah les was not me 200 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:27,000 although he gave that up a good while back why got tired of the killing that 201 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:32,000 guys I don't know he never really talked about it your brother ever mention a boy 202 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:37,000 named Eddie cats I don't think so 203 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:43,000 who is he this is a child who was killed 204 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:52,000 in the turtle back preserve about 30 years ago your brother ever hunt there 205 00:28:52,000 --> 00:29:21,000 no never once 206 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:28,000 [Music] 207 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:43,000 these beautiful happily outlive me I don't do that I know ping watch 208 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:50,000 that's something minute I dreamed about her last night I don't 209 00:29:50,000 --> 00:30:09,000 kaliesha a little girl she says she can't wait what me is it hard to die 210 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:17,000 they were asked 211 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:36,000 [Music] 212 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:46,000 what's hardest is trying to hold on believe me I know I was so afraid I've 213 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:54,000 so many things afraid of facing some kind of punishment for some kind of 214 00:30:54,000 --> 00:31:02,000 rule I didn't even know I broke most of all I was afraid that everything that I 215 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:09,000 had believed as a child all my voices that I heard all the visions that I had 216 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:14,000 seen afraid they were true and that the spirits that I had betrayed would hate 217 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:28,000 me for that they welcomed me back 218 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:40,000 [Music] 219 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:47,000 [Music] 220 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:52,000 [Music] 221 00:31:52,000 --> 00:32:27,000 [Music] 222 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:35,000 [Music] you go tell your friend that there will 223 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:48,000 be plenty of people to help her through she has nothing to worry about 224 00:32:48,000 --> 00:33:10,000 that's it this way everyone not everyone 225 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:18,000 [Music] 226 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:30,000 [Music] 227 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:39,000 do you see yes comes your every Friday 228 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:45,000 in 15 minutes he'll be called to the phone they follow him get him alone and 229 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:51,000 they do your stuff you okay with that yes I went to the 230 00:33:51,000 --> 00:34:26,000 John order me a Virgin Mary 231 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:37,000 [Music] 232 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:47,000 [Music] 233 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:54,000 [Music] 234 00:34:54,000 --> 00:35:10,000 [Music] 235 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:20,000 [Music] excuse me yeah it's gonna help you yes 236 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:26,000 your brother wants me to talk to you who 237 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:31,000 are you what'd he say he says that he's sorry that he caused you so much trouble 238 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:38,000 look I don't want to talk to you you you hear me and I don't want to talk to you and that he always has felt responsible 239 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:43,000 because he was the more the more experienced hunter call the manager 240 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:48,000 I want this man thrown out no you should not blame yourself even even though even though you pulled the 241 00:35:48,000 --> 00:36:07,000 trigger boy why are you doing this 242 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:27,000 [Music] who are you you alright 243 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:34,000 [Music] please please call it I'm gonna explain 244 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:43,000 somebody help us [Music] [Applause] 245 00:36:43,000 --> 00:37:12,000 [Applause] [Music] 246 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:22,000 [Music] 247 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:46,000 [Music] 248 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:54,000 go away leave me I'm through with you don't you understand would you go away 249 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:59,000 just leave me alone go away 250 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:05,000 I found the man who killed you has had a heart attack you'll have him soon enough just go away 251 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:18,000 [Music] give me love go away 252 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:29,000 I I can't live like this 253 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:35,000 I mean look look at my life that dead people dying people people who want me 254 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:40,000 to contact the spirit world they're just as crazy as me I mean look at me I'm talking to my dead mother you know I'm 255 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:47,000 this far from a straitjacket mom I'm 256 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:56,000 sorry but I want you to go I never thought I'd say that 257 00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:04,000 [Music] 258 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:27,000 [Music] 259 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:44,000 [Music] 260 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:52,000 [Music] 261 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:57,000 detective Condren yes I'm Arne Adamson Mr. Partridge Shelly's lawyer hi please 262 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:03,000 come in yeah we won't take up too much of your time 263 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:12,000 hello mr. petroselli detective this is my partner detective Campbell we 264 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:18,000 appreciate you doing this okay we're on 265 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:25,000 I would like to state for the record that my clients cooperation is strictly voluntary he's under no obligation to 266 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:31,000 speak to the police or answer any of their questions it's okay Arnie I want to get this off my chest it's fine right sure 267 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:38,000 I'll read the statement Arnie Adamson representing Richard Petrocelli in May 268 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:51,000 of 1963 my brother Lester and I were hunting in an area known as turtle back preserve Lester hearing what he thought 269 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:59,000 was a deer took aim and fired his gun 270 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:05,000 inadvertently killing a white male approximately fourteen subsequently 271 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:13,000 identified as Edward cats at my 272 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:20,000 brother's insistence I helped Lester dig a grave six to eight feet deep and deposited 273 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:27,000 into that grave the body of Edward cats I also promised my brother to tell no 274 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:36,000 one of this incident did you tell your wife Mr. Petrich I know your children or 275 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:43,000 any of your friends this is the first time I've talked about it with anyone other than less he spoke out that with 276 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:51,000 your brother only at the end and he did all the talking I just listened what do 277 00:41:51,000 --> 00:42:06,000 you say that that he was sorry and they wished he could change things I would 278 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:12,000 help 279 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:19,000 and he told me about the flowers that he brought to the gravesite every year and 280 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:25,000 then the ones he sent to the mother are you aware of your brother having spoken to anyone else about this before his 281 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:32,000 death no he swore to me he never told us all he didn't even confess till the end 282 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:40,000 confess to a priest he had confession a week before he died 283 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:48,000 so this priest would know where you buried daddy well I suppose so but he 284 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:55,000 can't tell anyone in the sacredness of the confession no no right what's the priests name it wouldn't do 285 00:42:55,000 --> 00:43:01,000 any good I said what's his name mr. petroselli hey dad it's me I just thought you'd 286 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:08,000 like to know I'm out of the pleased to 287 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:13,000 know that why don't you give me a call 288 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:21,000 I'm I'm off the case I know I got your message I interested Karen you might be 289 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:28,000 interested in this and you're Catholic right I was but what does that have to do with this I need a Catholic pastor 290 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:35,000 present to help me conduct an interview someone who's familiar with the case I just need to take a break I'm sorry 291 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:41,000 really you don't have to do any of your psychic stuff just come along for the 292 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:47,000 ride I'm written out 293 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:54,000 look no more dead people like you got to do is help me praise the right question 294 00:43:54,000 --> 00:44:01,000 I'm sorry I found my father's pipe in my 295 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:08,000 purse the other night and as far as I know it was in my desk drawer I don't 296 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:15,000 think I put it in my bag I don't remember putting it in my bag I don't understand it and I don't like it but 297 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:22,000 that's what happened 298 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:28,000 I believe in you James you've shown me things I never would have thought 299 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:38,000 possible don't quit on me now 300 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:49,000 my life is such a mess when I do this 301 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:55,000 this is the most conservative parish in town they had their way they still have 302 00:44:55,000 --> 00:45:03,000 the Inquisition 303 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:08,000 because he drools just like this one 304 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:13,000 but the responsibilities of an altar boy as one of 305 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:21,000 like the disciples where to Christ so the altar boys are to the priests that 306 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:32,000 is why in our parish we do not allow girls to fill this position any 307 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:37,000 questions 308 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:44,000 and now [Music] 309 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:51,000 you how can I be of service officer Condren 310 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:58,000 detective detective I just have a few 311 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:06,000 questions father Monsignor Monsignor this is James 312 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:12,000 Van Praagh oh I've heard of you you 313 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:17,000 taught me when I was a child actually I guess my teachings didn't stick you're 314 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:25,000 no longer a Catholic I gather no Monsignor may I present you with a 315 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:34,000 hypothetical case if a person came to you to confess an unsolved crime murder 316 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:40,000 say or an accidental death what would you tell him to do well naturally I 317 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:50,000 would recommend he go to the authorities but the least I would have him do is to find a way to atone huh 318 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:59,000 that depends on the particulars of the crime doesn't it if a boy was shot and 319 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:05,000 buried in the woods without anyone's knowledge and the man responsible for 320 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:16,000 his death came to you we are no longer talking about a hypothetical situation here are we detective look I respect the 321 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:22,000 seriousness of your vow but if the person has since died then couldn't you 322 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:28,000 speak to the confessional vow is sacred it has never been broken in the history 323 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:34,000 of the church never no six boys have 324 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:41,000 died when senior stuck in the ground or the shipment Eddie cats Eddie was shot in a hunting 325 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:48,000 accident by either Lester or Richard Petrocelli and whoever killed the other six knew where Eddie was buried 326 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:55,000 what do Lester died seven years ago so that puts him out of the picture Richard 327 00:47:55,000 --> 00:48:04,000 still in the running as is anyone else who knew where Eddie was buried so far that just leaves you in the last seven 328 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:09,000 years did you tell anyone what Lester told you how many times do I have to 329 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:16,000 spell it out for you detective I cannot and would not talk about this but to you 330 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:22,000 not to anyone excuse me 331 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:29,000 what is that sound we have rats in the basement they've taken up residency of 332 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:35,000 the communal wafers someday I hope to be rid of them but in the meantime I have 333 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:49,000 to sit and listen patiently to their heretical nonsense 334 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:58,000 sano teacher mine today well yeah father bender excuse me Monsignor you taught me 335 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:06,000 religion back in grade school I never understood your mother's fascination with them please wonderful this one's 336 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:11,000 just a little complicated yeah they're all complicated you asked 337 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:18,000 me their heads are too much in the clouds I'm a meat and potatoes man anything none of this earth I don't care 338 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:28,000 to bite into are you okay yeah no I'm 339 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:34,000 just um so uh how did you and Mom resolve this issue 340 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:40,000 well we didn't talk about it mostly we were married in church of course she 341 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:47,000 insisted on that the old brie said he'd be happy to advise us on any aspects of 342 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:54,000 the union so I asked his views on the missionary position he he turned beet 343 00:49:54,000 --> 00:50:00,000 red your mother finally he handed me I'm 344 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:06,000 the handbook on the spirituality of intercourse which mostly talked about 345 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:16,000 flowers yeah I think mom gave me that book when I was 13 Oh first Olson stable 346 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:24,000 that's it 347 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:30,000 are you sure you're okay excuse me a 348 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:40,000 second 349 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:53,000 hi yes this is James Van Praagh I'm calling to find out how my friend Mitch Harmon in 107 is doing no no I'll be 350 00:50:53,000 --> 00:51:00,000 right there dad a friend of mine needs help 351 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:07,000 everything all right no but just you know help some stupid be ashamed to go 352 00:51:07,000 --> 00:52:07,000 to waste 353 00:52:08,000 --> 00:53:00,000 [Music] 354 00:53:00,000 --> 00:54:00,000 [Music] 355 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:48,000 [Music] 356 00:54:48,000 --> 00:55:05,000 [Music] [Applause] [Music] 357 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:26,000 that's nice [Music] 358 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:54,000 [Music] 359 00:55:54,000 --> 00:56:01,000 hello James we won't go him yeah I'll merge tells me 360 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:07,000 that you were with her - yeah she's very grateful for that 361 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:17,000 SARS eye and she says that it's exactly as you described that Oh me better she 362 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:24,000 has only one regret that she can't speak to you herself well I made my decision 363 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:34,000 my life's a lot calmer now oh yeah I'll see you're wrong when you 364 00:56:34,000 --> 00:57:34,000 say hello to her for me she hears you James you don't need me for that 365 00:57:53,000 --> 00:58:02,000 hello is anybody in there hold on all 366 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:18,000 right hold on let's get you out of it 367 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:32,000 [Music] 368 00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:41,000 [Music] 369 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:49,000 [Music] 370 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:56,000 it's like we're bearing those boys all over here how so the case isn't closed 371 00:58:56,000 --> 00:59:04,000 but it might as well be it's out of the papers now the department's got plenty of other things to worry about I don't 372 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:11,000 know if we're ever gonna find this guy you said it was someone who knew where Eddie was buried right right that leaves 373 00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:16,000 us with two choices Petrocelli and the priest there is another choice in action 374 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:22,000 I'm surprised you haven't thought of it who's that well who brought you out here 375 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:30,000 to know he claims that he saw Eddie when 376 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:36,000 he was a boy but maybe what he really saw all was two men burying he wouldn't 377 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:46,000 play me like that he believes what he sees I believe in Tim I know you do but what 378 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:54,000 if there's another sign of James aside that even he isn't fully aware of just a 379 00:59:54,000 --> 01:00:13,000 thought that's all 380 01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:21,000 okay yeah yeah everything's fine I'm 381 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:26,000 sorry about your friend thank you you wanna come in no come on 382 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:38,000 in no no I didn't want to bother you my answers no you know uh no no I just want to tell you that I'll do it do what one 383 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:48,000 of your things where where where I talked to your mother I'll give it a try I'm sure it's what 384 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:53,000 your mother would want just like you two 385 01:00:53,000 --> 01:01:03,000 two peas in a pod dad I see don't worry I won't make any 386 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:08,000 smart remarks it's just that I've stopped remember I told you that okay 387 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:13,000 okay fine I just wanted you to know that 388 01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:19,000 I'm willing thank you yeah do you want some 389 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:49,000 Stewart's home come on that's okay no I gotta get home 390 01:01:49,000 --> 01:02:01,000 oh oh 391 01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:06,000 what's up oh I just needed to go over some things with you if you have a moment 392 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:14,000 sure I smell something they reminded me of my dad the other day whiskey and 393 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:22,000 tobacco brought back a lot of memories some sweet ones mixed in with them not 394 01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:27,000 so good it helps to stand back and look 395 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:35,000 at someone again you've only looked at through a certain pair of glasses don't you think on the house 396 01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:45,000 oh thank you mom how are things detective they've been better we covered 397 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:52,000 up the preserve this morning found your boys killer at least those hunters 398 01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:59,000 didn't kill him detective what killed him was this loneliness 399 01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:11,000 thank you for trying thank you 400 01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:16,000 what bothers me James is just as we were getting close to solving this thing you 401 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:24,000 pulled away I almost killed the man a terrible thing and then covered it up 402 01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:39,000 yes that's true but that doesn't mean you killed the other boys what if it's some other God like who 403 01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:46,000 I need you to talk to those boys again 404 01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:54,000 one last time see if they can give us some kind of clue and I would like to be there when 405 01:03:54,000 --> 01:04:00,000 you do it 406 01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:24,000 or you don't give up do you now 407 01:04:24,000 --> 01:05:10,000 dark [Music] 408 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:37,000 [Music] 409 01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:47,000 [Music] 410 01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:59,000 [Music] 411 01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:18,000 [Music] 412 01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:33,000 what [Music] 413 01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:39,000 Dennis please tell me who's doing this to you please please tell me who's doing this to your friends please tell me 414 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:47,000 please talk to me what your monthly youth that doesn't make any sense your 415 01:06:47,000 --> 01:07:13,000 mother's dead why what if what's going on please talk to me Dennis please 416 01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:19,000 mom what what's happening what's going 417 01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:45,000 on what are you doing here 418 01:07:45,000 --> 01:08:11,000 [Music] 419 01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:18,000 this is crazy this doesn't make any sense ma what a mothers have to do with 420 01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:27,000 us mothers they all lost one who did every one of 421 01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:32,000 those boys lost their mother just like you did James 422 01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:39,000 [Music] oh my god 423 01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:46,000 we have to preserve why is that James yeah you said that the the excavation 424 01:08:46,000 --> 01:09:00,000 stopped well this is the first chance that he's had to bury it's happening now 425 01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:12,000 he's he's very right now 426 01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:22,000 [Applause] 427 01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:39,000 [Music] 428 01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:44,000 1 alpha v 1 a neat backup I need cars as soon as possible to the Turtleback 429 01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:50,000 reserve 430 01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:57,000 his face who's the killer no but it's got to be Petrocelli or the 431 01:09:57,000 --> 01:10:07,000 priest they're the only two new where Eddie was buried missing something 432 01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:15,000 petrucelli's lie he's shot in not his brother it doesn't explain why I killed 433 01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:20,000 the other boys 434 01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:27,000 maybe the Monsignor did I mean he took me to turtleback when I was a kid 435 01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:40,000 [Music] 436 01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:55,000 [Music] 437 01:10:55,000 --> 01:11:10,000 [Music] 438 01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:16,000 [Music] 439 01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:31,000 [Music] it [Music] 440 01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:37,000 nobody's here this hasn't been touched yep 441 01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:47,000 maybe maybe whoa hey it's me he's not 442 01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:54,000 here all I know about it 443 01:11:54,000 --> 01:12:01,000 sorry guys okay maybe 444 01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:15,000 [Music] [Applause] 445 01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:24,000 I'm sorry I was so sure I was right 446 01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:32,000 [Music] 447 01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:41,000 I am right you know the kid is dying and I don't know what to do 448 01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:47,000 boy wait a minute wait a minute to Eddie right 449 01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:53,000 [Music] oh my god 450 01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:58,000 oh my god and of course he didn't take him to the preserve he's like he's bringing him to Eddie head he's not 451 01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:05,000 there anymore and he sees at the cemetery what do you do let's go come on 452 01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:12,000 we have to turn around they put some Karen what's the matter with you turn around 453 01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:27,000 [Music] 454 01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:39,000 [Music] 455 01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:59,000 [Applause] 456 01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:06,000 who is that he's got him yet we have to get to the grave no no he's in the 457 01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:13,000 ground okay 458 01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:25,000 [Applause] [Music] 459 01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:36,000 [Music] what are you doing Karen 460 01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:41,000 this one output 5:1 I need a car as soon as possible to Chestnut Hill Cemetery 461 01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:47,000 the corpse on the loose Karen I need a second car I'm in pursuit of a 94 black 462 01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:56,000 grab Murray people drove compacts stupid 463 01:14:56,000 --> 01:15:28,000 son-of-a-bitch [Music] 464 01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:38,000 [Music] 465 01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:56,000 [Music] 466 01:15:56,000 --> 01:16:39,000 [Music] 467 01:16:39,000 --> 01:17:39,000 [Music] 468 01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:54,000 [Music] 469 01:17:54,000 --> 01:18:17,000 [Music] 470 01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:31,000 [Music] 471 01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:57,000 [Music] 472 01:18:57,000 --> 01:19:12,000 [Music] 473 01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:29,000 [Music] 474 01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:45,000 he's such a mess these forests come to play with any 475 01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:57,000 [Music] 476 01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:25,000 [Music] 477 01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:32,000 and Molly how did you know where Eddie was buried the man who buried him told 478 01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:38,000 me his name was Lester and he was dying 479 01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:45,000 okay priest told him he had to make amends so I came to apologize 480 01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:54,000 every mother's day getting those flowers I thought he was alive and then one 481 01:20:54,000 --> 01:21:03,000 minute that man told me my son had been lying in a grave for over 30 years 482 01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:10,000 I don't know what to do I couldn't scream loud enough couldn't crawl into 483 01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:20,000 the grand facade and it was my fault he died mom worries that he don't have any 484 01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:28,000 friends feel the boys their mothers were dead I read it in the papers I wanted to 485 01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:35,000 give him back to their mothers this used 486 01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:42,000 to have a picture of his mother he took it when he left I wanted to give Eddie 487 01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:52,000 someone to play with I wanted to surround him with friends 488 01:21:52,000 --> 01:22:07,000 mice all for him you know he was so lonely 489 01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:25,000 okay my 490 01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:36,000 okay this is what happens now well that's over thank God 491 01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:41,000 do you think that I could talk to her for just a minute well huh I'll ask her 492 01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:59,000 lawyer 493 01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:08,000 hello MA 494 01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:16,000 is he really Andy so the others they've 495 01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:21,000 come to free him which is why they wanted my help 496 01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:27,000 he's trapped Molly you need to let him go 497 01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:35,000 that's what you said isn't it you don't want him to be alone 498 01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:40,000 well he's lonely or now than ever he has 499 01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:46,000 to move on with his friends he's asking 500 01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:56,000 me to ask you please let him go 501 01:23:56,000 --> 01:24:35,000 Oh Oh 502 01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:42,000 [Music] what happened in there 503 01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:53,000 with the boys what 504 01:24:53,000 --> 01:25:08,000 I think that I think I think they came 505 01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:21,000 back to to free her not just Eddie but to forgive her 506 01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:30,000 [Music] 507 01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:38,000 [Music] 508 01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:45,000 [Music] 509 01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:59,000 [Music] 510 01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:19,000 [Music] 511 01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:40,000 [Music] 512 01:26:40,000 --> 01:27:00,000 [Music] 513 01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:16,000 [Music] 514 01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:17,000 [Music]48181

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