All language subtitles for Catch Me a Killer S01E04 The ABC Killer 720p.SBS

We're moving you
wherever you're needed.

And you will be
needed everywhere.

You must tell me what I can do
for you that can make this work.

A specialised unit
would be good.

How about one more
person to start with?

You must be Erika. Erika.

Captain Bothes. And you
are Doctor Pistorius.

Who is this? Robert Ressler.

Mr Ressler, what an honour.

Your work is impressive, Micki.

To the best of my knowledge,
Mr Barnes is lying.

The detectives don't
seem to like it.

They think I'm interfering.

Well, that's because
we chase ghosts.

We're concerned with
thoughts, not deeds.

Deeds are how detectives are
taught to understand their work.

Well, maybe someone should
teach them differently.

Maybe that someone
should be you.

We'll give you a pay
review every six months.

That's what my boss
told me two years ago.

Let's see how we
can change that.

Come on. Get up.

Hey. Hey. Now walk.

Walk.

Walk.

Over there.

Hey! Hey!

No.

No! No, no, no, no!

Got a spare 800? For what?

Hey, man, my cousin's selling
two tickets for the semis.

Tell him he's a greedy bastard.
You can pick them up for 200.

Ask the captain.
Maybe he'll go for it.

Hey, Captain?

You're supporting the
national team, yeah?

You think I give a shit about the
rugby with everything going on?

See what's happening
in the press?

You see what we're up against?

Sorry, Micki. We've
got 15 dead bodies.

Not a single suspect.

Brigadier says you have
a brilliant instinct.

OK. I'll be looking at what
you've put up here later.

Might need some work.

Look, I know how much
pressure you're all under.

This is the biggest murder
investigation we've ever had.

Yeah. OK, well, I will start
with some general observations.

With Nyameka, the killer
strangled her with a bra,

and then left it on her chest.

But it's not the right size
for it to belong to her.

But it is the right size
for it to belong to Brenda,

who was killed prior to Nyameka,

which suggests the killer
could be transferring underwear

from one victim to another.

Like the jewellery.

When she was found, Pretty
was wearing a necklace

her family say
didn't belong to her.

Yes, but it's been confirmed it
did belong to his previous victim.

Um. He could be using the jewellery
of one victim to entice another.

He also covered this woman's
face with her panties.

Why?

It's an indication
of depersonalisation.

He has nothing but
contempt for these women.

OK. And we're looking for links.

All of our victims are
aged between 20 and 30

and none of them
are prostitutes.

He could be targeting women who
specifically don't work the streets.

And we have some similarities
in the way he killed them.

Uh... Apart from Gloria.

But she was strangled, too.

Yes, she was. I'm
referring to her son.

His body was found just 500
metres from where she was dumped.

Yeah, he wasn't found
until eight days later.

The lab said he could
have died from exposure.

He wasn't murdered.

So, he must have been with his
mother when she was taken away.

Exactly.

There is something unusual
in the killer taking Gloria

if she was with her child...

Captain.

A body's been found
in Onderstepoort.

They think it's one of ours.

Micki, Erica, you
can come with me.

That was quick.

Such a weird position.

No, he's done that
on purpose. Look.

So, he's placed her on her front,
so he could bend her legs back

to tie the rope from
her ankles to her neck.

Then when she got tired
and her legs went down,

the rope pulled.

She strangled herself?

Eventually.

I think he watched her
die a horrific death.

Can we make sure forensics
check for semen around the body?

So, we have Brenda
found in January...

..Emily in March...

..Aphiwe in April...

May...

The time of death of Emily is...

Ah, six weeks before Brenda.

Oh, she died first. Um...

Of course, her hands are tied
at the front. Oh, my God. OK.

Yeah, Erica?

Hi. Sorry, it's so early. Um...

I think I have something.

We need to look at the
victims in a different way.

Not in the order of
when they were found,

but in the order of
when they were killed.

The methods of bondage
looked random and confusing.

That's why the team wasn't
sure it was the same guy.

But look...

If we put them in the
order of when they died,

we can see a progression.

First, the hands
are left untied.

Then he started to
tie them at the front.

By the time we get
to these victims,

he started tying their
hands at the back.

He's getting better with
how he's restraining them.

Yeah, but... Oh. Um...

Can you get someone to
fax these to Mr Ressler?

See when he wants to meet.

We've got a situation
near Boksburg prison.

We've got to head there now.

Another body?

It's not just one. It's a
whole fucking field of them.

What...?

How many? Six so far.

Seven now.

There's another one down there.

They're at various
stages of decomposition.

Like they were... They were brought
here at intervals over time.

How long since the
first one was dumped?

They're not exactly sure yet, but
some of them are badly decomposed.

Found some bones out this way.

The first two they brought
in were a lot more fresh.

He's getting more confident.

Keeps coming back. Yeah.

He stepped up his mission.

So, why so close to that?

Do you think it's deliberate?

Possibly. If he
spent time there.

We need to speak
to the relatives.

Find out if they know who the
victims were in contact with

in the days leading
up to their deaths.

I'll draw up a list. Thanks.

Just excuse me.

OK.

Hello.

Yeah.

OK.

OK.

They found semen at the
scene in Onderstepoort.

Yeah.

He was probably masturbating
while she was choking herself.

You alright?

How is any sane person
supposed to make sense of that?

I don't know.

Did you know Mandela
asked to visit Boksburg?

Yep.

I gotta go.

Meeting Mr Ressler.

I'll see you later.

Micki. Hm? Oh, Mr Ressler.

Robert, please.

It's so great to finally
meet you in person...Robert.

The commissioner tells me
you're having a tough day.

Hm. I'd say that's
an understatement.

Thank you so much for coming
and for agreeing to help.

Well, based on your observations,
I'm not entirely sure you need it.

Oh. That is very
kind of you but...

No, it's always useful to
have another point of view.

I mean, the police side...

..it's so forensic.

And whoever's killing
these women, it...

It feels like there's
so much more going on.

Well, let's start
with the basics, then.

Do you think the killer is using
the same MO for all the women?

Yes.

So, these women were all
killed where they were found.

And same for the victims
at Boksburg Prison.

Looks like he's walking
her up to the other corpses

while she's still alive.

Intimidating each one
before he kills her.

How do you see him getting
her there in the first place?

Um... By enticing her?

Yes. Makes her believe
he's a decent guy.

I've... I've been thinking
about the location, too.

Do you think he chose his graveyard
within sight of the prison

on purpose? Possibly.

Sorry, the...

The AC here is not quite
what it is back home.

Oh, my God. I'm so sorry.

I've not even
offered you a drink.

Oh, it's fine. I don't
drink when I'm working.

OK., Water is fine.

You stay here.
I'll go and get it.

Another glass of red?

Are you sure? Of course.

OK. Thank you.

President Mandela has
promised all possible support to police

hunting for the alleged
Boksburg serial killer.

Arriving by helicopter,

President Mandela was
met by about 30 members

of the Vosloorus
ANC Women's League,

who demanded that the police
intensify their investigations.

I came here to give
support to the police...

..in their difficult jobs.

We must remember now that these
are no longer the enemy police,

they are our police.

If we cooperate with them,
give them the information

that they will be able
to make a breakthrough.

I will give them every
support which they need.

We need the support.

But you're going to tell me the
killer's enjoying all this attention?

Some killers like to think
of themselves as notorious.

It's fuelling him now.

Seeing the president there
will make him jump for joy.

But what's motivating
him, though?

Well, hate.

And I think he's scarred by
a trauma when he was small.

Does he have to have a trauma?

Isn't he just evil?

A serial killer is
not born like that.

They become killers as a
consequence of childhood damage.

They're killing strangers
to express their anger.

Could the same man who killed all the women
in Atteridgeville be responsible for Boksburg?

Yes. What about Cleveland?

Look...

OK, we're looking for someone
who's got time on his hands,

possibly self-employed.

He's got money.

He needs it to dress well.

And he's charming.

Thinks of himself as popular.
There's an arrogance to him.

His profile sounds
very similar to Selepe.

Well. Yes, but...

Well, a profile describes a
personality, not a person.

And a serial killer can have
the same personality as another.

OK. Where was I?

Yes. So, he's driving
an expensive car

to match his nice jewellery,
his flashy-looking watch.

He knows how to talk to women.

He's got experience.

He's probably been in a long-term
relationship at some point.

What about his appearance?

Uh, we're looking for a black
male, late 20s to early 30s

with a history of sexual
offences, probably rape.

Sexually-motivated killers don't
just randomly start murdering.

They start off assaulting first.

Remember when Micki switched
the order of the victims

in which they were found to
the order that they died?

Exactly. He's gaining
more and more control.

Are you OK?

I need to speak with
someone urgently.

Please come with me.

Hello.

Aphiwe Mthembu's
mother's just called in.

We're just waiting for her to
come across to murder and robbery.

Apparently, someone's been in
touch claiming to be the killer.

He'll be calling
the papers next.

To say what? Something
inflammatory about us.

To goad us on how he's
getting away with it.

Give the press
more to talk about.

I'll be with you in
an hour. It's OK.

Ruan said you're
entertaining Mr Ressler.

Yeah. He's a good man. He
won't mind if we've got a lead.

It's sorted.

I told Ruan that Jerry and I
will come in and speak with her.

OK.

When I interviewed
Jeffrey Dahmer,

he was talking about
eating human muscle.

And when I asked him if he
cooked it first he said,

"Of course I cooked it."

Like that?

As if it were completely normal.

Edmund Kemper was the same.

You know how much
he hated his mother?

Apparently, she screamed at
him for most of his life.

Exactly.

He told me that after he killed
her, he cut out her vocal cords

and he put them in the
kitchen sink's waste disposal.

He said that when he switched it
on, everything just flew out at him.

And then he...

He casually turned
to me and said,

"Jesus, the bitch
just wouldn't quit!"

Oh, my God.

I should tell these
stories to the captain.

Well, yeah. Is he struggling?

I think so, sometimes.

And this press really
does not help. Yeah.

You could do something about it.

Get hold of the
investigation as your own.

Deflect the bullshit. How?

Call a press conference.

Take control, Micki.

And then put all your energy
back into catching the killer.

Can you talk us
through what he said?

Not very much.

I had to hang up.

He told me...

..that she tried to stop him.

Take your time.

He said...

"Hello, Bertha.

"You don't know me.

"I killed Aphewe.

I was too shocked to think.

I thought someone
was being cruel.

Do you think it's really him?

There's a possibility.

Why would someone do that?

Did Aphiwe get in touch
with anyone before she died?

Maybe an old boyfriend?
Maybe someone new?

Anyone at all?

There was someone.

She told me she was
going for an interview.

Do you remember where?

No, but she said it was with
someone who worked with a charity.

Human something, I think.

She would have been
offered the job, you know.

Every time she went
for a new position...

..she got it.

So, we got a lead,

from a blue handbag
they found at Boksburg.

Victim was a Zandi Joy Malembe.

They've traced where she worked.

Where?

Back office of an insurance
company at Beyers Park.

OK. Um... We've got a room
of journalists waiting.

Can you go? Of course, yeah.

Thank you.

You alright?

Fourie just told me we've
got Mandela's people

phoning about updates every day.

So, expect them to use that
at the press conference.

Cap. There's been an
assault on a young girl.

Her father found his friend
trying to have sex with her.

They brought him in last night.

And now he's in his cell shouting
about him being part of a war

and he's using a German
accent. Yeah. So?

He says he killed them all.

Killed who? The women.

OK. Take him to point out
where he dumped the bodies.

If he gets it right,
call us immediately.

No, he won't. Sounds
like he's playing mad.

Come on. We should hurry.

OK.

Ladies and gentlemen,
thanks for coming.

I know it's hot. We'll try and
get through all your questions.

I'm Captain Ruan Krotz.

Captain Micki Pistorius.

Mr Robert Ressler.

Alright, we'll try
get your questions.

Let's play nice. First...

Is it true that
you have a suspect?

We can't confirm that yet.

But... We need you
to call this number.

If anyone has any information
they think might help,

they should call us immediately.

Women need to know how
dangerous it is out there.

Are you connecting Boksburg to the
Atteridgeville and Cleveland murders?

We're not going into any details
on any connections just now.

Captain... Captain Krotz...

Captain... Sir, you needed
the help of Dr Pistorius

because your team had no leads.

We're not here to
speculate about my team.

My work takes me to many different
departments. Next question.

Yeah, but you've got the FBI
here. You've got the FBI.

Surely that says something.

We're both profilers.

So, are you then playing down
your failings in all of this?

Listen, we're here to make sure
that the public is vigilant.

People want to know
who is the monster

that dragged in the president.

President Mandela came
to show his support.

But if you think that these
six bodies found in Cleveland

are connected to a new murderer,

where does that leave
you with Selepe?

Again, please can
we not speculate?

Two killers can operate
at the same time.

Their boundaries can overlap.

Let's keep the focus
on what's going on now,

keep our citizens safe
and find this killer.

But what we're
actually asking...

Ladies and Gentlemen...

Ladies and Gentlemen,
thank you very much.

No further questions. Thank
you. No further questions.

Time waster didn't
pick a single scene.

Works for the courts,
has massive debts.

You were right, Micki.

We're charging him
with attempted rape.

So, one of Zandi's colleagues
said she had a meeting

with a man working for
Youth Against Human Abuse.

Aphiwe's mother said she
was meeting with someone

from a charity called
Human something.

He was trying to poach her. Said
he could get her more money.

She never came back.

We got a name yet?

Moses Sithole. An address?

There was a patrol
car two blocks away.

We sent them in,
but he was gone.

He hasn't been seen in a week.

The landlord gave them this.

He left behind his driver's
license. We took a copy.

What do you think we should do?

Release this photograph.

Draw him in.

Moses? You still owe me.

But Buli is here.

Not the money.

I need you to get me a gun.

You'll have to come
to my work tonight.

What time?

I start at 11.30.

I'll be there at midnight.

I did it.

It's him.

Erika.

OK, yeah.

Hello.

It was me.

Can you prove it,
that you did it?

There's a body out there.

You missed her.

Who?

Patience.

Where is she now?

The old sports
ground in Germiston.

You can see the rail
tracks from the west stand.

Walk directly towards them,
you'll get to a bridge.

She's underneath.

I didn't kill the boy.

Which boy? Gloria's son.

He ran off when I
was talking to her.

I love children.

I'd never kill a child.

So, what did he sound like?

Articulate. Calm.

Like he's loving the attention.

Well, this is his lifeblood now.

Do you think he'll
call again? Yep.

When? Any time.

It's a game of cat and mouse.

I'll cover the phones tonight.

Do you know who it is?

I think it must be Patience.

Sir, I need to speak to
someone about my cousin.

He's asking for a gun
and he's dangerous.

Can you give me his name?

Moses. Moses Sithole.

Hello? MAN: Captain.

We've had a tip on Sithole.

He's arranged to meet his
cousin at 11.30 tonight,

to pick up a gun at an
office complex in Boksburg.

I'm en route.

What's the time?

It's late. Where's this guy?

Uh, I'm meeting someone.

You got an appointment?

Uh... No. My cousin, Sidney.

He works in the
underground unit.

Can we give him your name?

Police! Stop!

Why didn't you call me?

It was late.

We had to act in the moment.

Well, at least
he's still alive.

Coffee?

Brilliant.

Please. Thank you.

I want you to speak to him.

Me? Hm.

It's a good experience.
You'll be fine.

We know he wants to confess.

He already said so on the phone.

OK.

You sure she's up to this?

They tried to kill me, you know.

The police.

What are you doing here?

I'm here to talk to you
about what you've done.

You already know.

They arrested me for rape.

In 1989.

I thought I would be
in there forever...

..but they let me go.

Hey.

Don't you ever walk away from
me when I'm talking to you.

Bitch.

He's getting off on
it, in front of me.

He tells me they arrested
him for rape, the sick fuck.

Then he told me
they released him.

OK. You're fine.
Take a deep breath.

Hello, Moses.

My name's Captain Pistorius.

I know who you are.

Why did they release you?

Good behaviour.

I was a model prisoner.

I used to sing for the choir.

After they released me...

..I started Children
Against Human Abuse.

To reunite children with...

..with their families.

Tell me what else you've done...

..apart from the rape.

You want my life story?

I want you to tell me about
the women you've killed.

What makes you
think I'll do that?

Well, you called us.

I know you want to talk.

You said on the phone you
wanted me to arrest you.

Maybe.

Just speak to me.

You can tell me
anything you want.

Tell me why you wanted a gun.

I wanted to meet you.

But I needed to protect myself.

If they were going to shoot
me, maybe I can get them first.

Yeah.

See?

You do want to talk to me?

Tell me what you did, Moses.

I killed the first
one after my release.

How many more did you kill?

I killed all of them.

Like I said when we spoke.

Did you do it alone?

What do you mean?

Did you have an accomplice?

No.

Why did you do it, Moses?

When they arrested
me for rape...

..they took me to an ID parade.

She picked me out.

That bitch.

Just like my mother.

Tell me about her.

After my father passed...

..she couldn't cope with us.

So, she took me to
the police station.

And she said...

..if you ever tell anyone
that you're related to me...

..I will kill you.

So, they took us
to the orphanage.

Me and my brothers.

And then they moved us again.

But I ran away because I
did not want to be there.

I only raped the pretty ones.

Hurt has been my daily bread.

Hurt has been my prayer.

Hurt has been my
feelings all the time.

Every hour.

Every minute. Every second.

Every day.

Every week.

Every month.

Every year.

He hates women.

From when he was
in prison for rape.

That's why his victims
all look similar,

like the woman who accused him.

And for the women he
left at Boksburg...

..he could see the prison
while he was killing them.

That's the instinct the
Brigadier told me about.

You should listen more to him.

It's never too late to open
your mind to something new.

A weaker man would have
doubted his ability,

now you had to come in.

If we don't doubt ourselves,
we're not doing our best work.

For the record,

I don't think it's bullshit,
the psychology stuff.

Well done, guys.
Well, done, guys.

No, no, no, no.

Just one drink. Just one, Erika.

No. Next time?

Next time, I promise.

Great job. Cheers.

Bokke! Bokke!

You're not going with them?

Not today.

You deserve a drink.
You've worked hard.

You should go and
let your hair down.

Yeah, I can't.

Um, there's all some stuff
going on with my parents.

Are you OK?

My mum's not well.

Do you want to talk about it?

No, I'd rather not.

Well, if you're free tomorrow, you
can always come to my sister's.

It's just a braai
but it'll be fun.

And bring your man.

Thanks. Um, it's really kind.

Come here. Well done.

Thanks, Micki.

Enjoy. OK.

I saw a baboon.

You saw one? You nearly
got killed by one.

I wanted to take a
photograph to show my wife,

but Micki was worried
about the traffic

coming around the
corner. No, no, no.

I was trying to tell him how
dangerous those little bastards are.

Oh. Um...

Would you excuse me
for just a minute?

Sure.

Hello. Hey.

How's things with your mum?

She's comfortable today.

Thanks.

Yeah. I mean, some days
are better than others,

but please don't ask me if
I want to talk about it,

because today is about you. OK.

Chip in a teacup? Yeah. Thanks.

Why are you here alone?

Steve's probably still out
drunk somewhere, I think.

Like the rest of
the country, huh?

Hey. What a result, ey?

I know right? That dropkick in
extra time. Stransky's my hero.

Oh, you should meet Mark.

I'm not 14.

Oh, come on. Stop it.

He's really nice. I don't care.

Thank you. Thanks.

Just getting your
dad some water.

How'd you know him?
I don't. We just met.

I'm staying with Annika. We
were friends back in college.

What did you study? Law.

Hm. Intelligent.

Well, you're ticking all
the right boxes here.

I work for a wine company now.

That's a shame.

You were just starting
to get my attention.

What about you?

I heard something
about killing people.

It's complicated.

Are you sneaking out back?

It's not sneaking away when no
one notices because they're drunk.

I'd notice.

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