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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,757 --> 00:00:08,884 Rivera: A mysterious newly discovered disease. 2 00:00:08,926 --> 00:00:11,637 The most frightening medical mystery of our time. 3 00:00:11,679 --> 00:00:14,473 Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome. 4 00:00:14,515 --> 00:00:16,266 Incidents double every six months. 5 00:00:16,308 --> 00:00:18,268 Apuzzo: How many must die 6 00:00:18,310 --> 00:00:21,104 for this administration to wake up? 7 00:00:21,146 --> 00:00:23,858 When it comes to preventing AIDS, don't medicine 8 00:00:23,899 --> 00:00:25,693 and morality teach the same lessons? 9 00:00:25,734 --> 00:00:27,068 [ Spectators booing ] 10 00:00:27,110 --> 00:00:29,738 Dow: AIDS victims are becoming increasingly impatient. 11 00:00:29,780 --> 00:00:31,323 Kramer: This is the first case in history 12 00:00:31,365 --> 00:00:34,535 where the afflicted people are taking charge of the epidemic. 13 00:00:34,576 --> 00:00:35,995 Norville: Demonstrators tried to break 14 00:00:36,036 --> 00:00:38,539 into the government's biomedical research agency. 15 00:00:38,580 --> 00:00:41,291 Hopefully, I can be around long enough for a cure. 16 00:00:41,333 --> 00:00:44,336 ♪♪ 17 00:01:32,801 --> 00:01:35,345 Man: It used to be that it was something to hide. 18 00:01:35,387 --> 00:01:36,555 But last October, 19 00:01:36,597 --> 00:01:38,724 the homosexuals of this country 20 00:01:38,766 --> 00:01:40,017 publicly proclaimed 21 00:01:40,059 --> 00:01:42,853 themselves to be the newest legitimate minority. 22 00:01:42,895 --> 00:01:46,147 Jones: How many of you have heard from behind, 23 00:01:46,189 --> 00:01:48,149 "Hey, faggot. 24 00:01:48,191 --> 00:01:50,069 Hey, dike." 25 00:01:53,447 --> 00:01:56,157 That is why we are here tonight, 26 00:01:56,199 --> 00:01:59,578 and we will not be stopped. 27 00:01:59,620 --> 00:02:02,790 [ Cheers and applause ] 28 00:02:02,831 --> 00:02:03,999 The right of homosexuals 29 00:02:04,041 --> 00:02:06,001 to organize, like any other minority, 30 00:02:06,043 --> 00:02:07,795 seeking to further its own interests 31 00:02:07,836 --> 00:02:09,254 is no longer in question. 32 00:02:09,296 --> 00:02:12,007 The question is, "What will those interests be?" 33 00:02:12,049 --> 00:02:14,885 ♪♪ 34 00:02:16,095 --> 00:02:18,346 Crile: The estimates of gays in San Francisco range 35 00:02:18,388 --> 00:02:20,181 from 12% of the city 36 00:02:20,223 --> 00:02:22,183 to 25%. 37 00:02:22,225 --> 00:02:24,185 Jones: San Francisco attracted a lot 38 00:02:24,227 --> 00:02:26,229 of gay men, different ethnicities 39 00:02:26,271 --> 00:02:27,773 and racial backgrounds, 40 00:02:27,815 --> 00:02:31,401 very young and highly sexualized. 41 00:02:31,443 --> 00:02:33,194 To walk down Castro street, my street, 42 00:02:33,236 --> 00:02:34,488 in 1980, 43 00:02:34,529 --> 00:02:36,865 it could sometimes take a half an hour to walk a block, 44 00:02:36,907 --> 00:02:38,700 because I knew everybody. 45 00:02:38,742 --> 00:02:41,787 Man: The average gay man here has had sexual encounters 46 00:02:41,829 --> 00:02:44,205 with at least 500 different men. 47 00:02:44,247 --> 00:02:47,668 28% with more than 1,000. 48 00:02:47,709 --> 00:02:50,462 Crile: Burleigh, the last time we talked, you said, 49 00:02:50,504 --> 00:02:52,213 "Never in the history of the world 50 00:02:52,255 --> 00:02:56,927 has there been so much sex available to men, 51 00:02:56,969 --> 00:03:00,221 as there is for gay men in San Francisco." 52 00:03:00,263 --> 00:03:03,517 I think that's probably true. 53 00:03:03,558 --> 00:03:08,271 I don't there's any question that that's true. 54 00:03:08,313 --> 00:03:10,189 And what's the consequence of that? 55 00:03:17,196 --> 00:03:20,241 I can't answer that. 56 00:03:20,283 --> 00:03:23,202 What were these? Capazzi? Kapozi? 57 00:03:26,498 --> 00:03:28,458 A rare and deadly form of cancer 58 00:03:28,500 --> 00:03:31,170 has shown up in 41 homosexual men, 59 00:03:31,210 --> 00:03:32,880 and the situation has created concern 60 00:03:32,921 --> 00:03:34,255 among public health officials. 61 00:03:34,297 --> 00:03:36,758 Levine: The disease isn't considered contagious, 62 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,259 but officials at the National Center 63 00:03:38,301 --> 00:03:39,887 For Disease Control 64 00:03:39,928 --> 00:03:42,263 want homosexual men and their physicians 65 00:03:42,305 --> 00:03:44,099 to be aware of it. 66 00:03:44,141 --> 00:03:46,476 Dr. Guinan: I was working at the Centers of Disease Control 67 00:03:46,518 --> 00:03:49,730 in the sexually transmitted diseases division. 68 00:03:49,771 --> 00:03:51,565 In the early 1980s, 69 00:03:51,606 --> 00:03:53,984 physicians started calling us to say, 70 00:03:54,026 --> 00:03:57,278 "We've seen these gay men who are dying, 71 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,322 and we don't have any idea what's wrong with them. 72 00:03:59,364 --> 00:04:02,283 Is this some new disease going around?" 73 00:04:02,325 --> 00:04:03,952 Engel: Young, sexually active gay men 74 00:04:03,994 --> 00:04:05,996 were coming down with bizarre diseases 75 00:04:06,038 --> 00:04:08,123 that one didn't normally associate with that age group. 76 00:04:08,165 --> 00:04:13,294 PCP pneumonia and a rare form of skin cancer, Kaposi sarcoma. 77 00:04:13,336 --> 00:04:14,504 Dr. Guinan: Finally, 78 00:04:14,546 --> 00:04:17,298 Michael Gottlieb from UCLA 79 00:04:17,340 --> 00:04:19,509 had seen a number of these patients, 80 00:04:19,551 --> 00:04:21,887 and he was the first one that noted 81 00:04:21,929 --> 00:04:24,514 that their immune system seemed to be compromised. 82 00:04:24,556 --> 00:04:28,685 Dr. Gottlieb: It was a very striking, epidemiologic phenomena. 83 00:04:28,727 --> 00:04:31,312 I was pretty sure this was something new, 84 00:04:31,354 --> 00:04:34,233 and I wanted to get it into print. 85 00:04:34,274 --> 00:04:35,776 Jones: I was quite struck by it. 86 00:04:35,817 --> 00:04:37,402 I actually clipped it out 87 00:04:37,444 --> 00:04:38,987 and put it on my bulletin board 88 00:04:39,029 --> 00:04:41,740 and wrote over it, "Just when things were looking up." 89 00:04:41,782 --> 00:04:44,576 So far, doctors have only documents 60 known cases 90 00:04:44,618 --> 00:04:46,787 among gay men, so it is by no means 91 00:04:46,828 --> 00:04:48,329 an epidemic. 92 00:04:48,371 --> 00:04:50,582 Little did we know, this was the very tip of the iceberg, 93 00:04:50,624 --> 00:04:53,334 and there was a lot of ice below the surface 94 00:04:53,376 --> 00:04:55,336 to come up very shortly. 95 00:04:55,378 --> 00:04:56,922 Scientists at the National Centers 96 00:04:56,964 --> 00:04:59,841 for Disease Control in Atlanta today released the results 97 00:04:59,883 --> 00:05:01,135 of a study, 98 00:05:01,176 --> 00:05:02,552 which shows that the lifestyle 99 00:05:02,594 --> 00:05:07,348 of some male homosexuals have triggered an epidemic. 100 00:05:07,390 --> 00:05:09,268 Bazell: Bobbi Campbell of San Francisco 101 00:05:09,309 --> 00:05:12,353 and Billy Walker of New York both suffer from a mysterious, 102 00:05:12,395 --> 00:05:14,189 newly discovered disease, 103 00:05:14,231 --> 00:05:16,441 which affects mostly homosexual men. 104 00:05:16,483 --> 00:05:17,985 Our best guess 105 00:05:18,026 --> 00:05:21,196 is that it's somehow related to the gay lifestyle. 106 00:05:21,238 --> 00:05:23,364 I was in the fast lane at one time, 107 00:05:23,406 --> 00:05:25,200 in terms of the way that I lived my life, 108 00:05:25,242 --> 00:05:26,367 and now I'm not. 109 00:05:26,409 --> 00:05:28,996 Bazell: Researchers know of 413 people 110 00:05:29,037 --> 00:05:31,539 who have contracted the condition in the past year. 111 00:05:31,581 --> 00:05:34,960 One third have died and none have been cured. 112 00:05:35,002 --> 00:05:36,377 Dr. Curran: All of us who saw patients 113 00:05:36,419 --> 00:05:37,545 in those days 114 00:05:37,587 --> 00:05:40,381 shared a sense of desperation, 115 00:05:40,423 --> 00:05:43,426 as we saw more and more people become affected. 116 00:05:43,468 --> 00:05:47,597 And there'd simply be no home once they became ill. 117 00:05:47,639 --> 00:05:50,309 What is killing these people? 118 00:05:50,349 --> 00:05:52,393 What's killing them is a severe, 119 00:05:52,435 --> 00:05:54,104 perhaps, and very profound 120 00:05:54,146 --> 00:05:57,316 and maybe even permanent break down of their immune system. 121 00:05:57,356 --> 00:05:59,234 -That's caused -- -That's caused by 122 00:05:59,276 --> 00:06:01,778 either some transmissible infection 123 00:06:01,820 --> 00:06:05,448 or a combination of other environmental exposures. 124 00:06:05,490 --> 00:06:06,616 And right now, you gentlemen 125 00:06:06,658 --> 00:06:07,826 here in Atlanta 126 00:06:07,868 --> 00:06:09,911 are frantically searching for this agent, 127 00:06:09,953 --> 00:06:11,788 if there is one, that's causing this disease, 128 00:06:11,830 --> 00:06:15,458 and we certainly wish you luck in finding it. 129 00:06:15,500 --> 00:06:17,669 Dr. Francis: Number one was to figure out was it is. 130 00:06:17,711 --> 00:06:19,420 In epidemiology it's always the "who, 131 00:06:19,462 --> 00:06:20,839 what, where, and why." 132 00:06:20,881 --> 00:06:25,052 And so, we got teams of CDC folks to go out, 133 00:06:25,093 --> 00:06:26,427 interview these people, and find out 134 00:06:26,469 --> 00:06:29,430 why they would have gotten it and what was the risk factors. 135 00:06:29,472 --> 00:06:32,267 Peterson: It appeared a year ago in New York's gay community, 136 00:06:32,309 --> 00:06:34,435 then in San Francisco and Los Angeles. 137 00:06:34,477 --> 00:06:37,231 Now, it's been detected in Hassan refugees. 138 00:06:37,272 --> 00:06:38,857 No one knows why. 139 00:06:38,899 --> 00:06:42,152 And in heavy drug users, especially in New York City. 140 00:06:42,194 --> 00:06:43,611 No one knows why. 141 00:06:43,653 --> 00:06:45,446 And in some people with hemophilia, 142 00:06:45,488 --> 00:06:47,282 a disease that prevents blood clotting 143 00:06:47,324 --> 00:06:50,118 so the patients needs frequent blood transfusions. 144 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,329 Why just certain geographic areas? 145 00:06:52,371 --> 00:06:54,081 Why just certain groups? 146 00:06:54,122 --> 00:06:56,250 And most frightening, the possibility 147 00:06:56,291 --> 00:06:58,459 that it can be transmitted from person to person, 148 00:06:58,501 --> 00:07:00,461 virtually a contagious form 149 00:07:00,503 --> 00:07:01,880 of cancer. 150 00:07:01,922 --> 00:07:03,965 Specialists argued that millions of dollars 151 00:07:04,007 --> 00:07:06,843 should be spent for research now. 152 00:07:06,885 --> 00:07:11,472 But there is almost no money being spent, so far. 153 00:07:11,514 --> 00:07:12,849 On "After Eight" this morning, 154 00:07:12,891 --> 00:07:15,894 a puzzling disease that is spreading. 155 00:07:15,936 --> 00:07:19,273 It's called A-I-D-S, AIDS. 156 00:07:19,314 --> 00:07:21,942 It breaks down the body's immune system, 157 00:07:21,983 --> 00:07:24,069 and 400 people are dead from it. 158 00:07:24,111 --> 00:07:26,487 With me in New York is Larry Kramer, 159 00:07:26,529 --> 00:07:29,366 co-founder of The Gay Men's Health Crisis Taskforce. 160 00:07:29,408 --> 00:07:31,534 How many friends have you lost to this disease? 161 00:07:31,576 --> 00:07:32,493 20. 162 00:07:32,535 --> 00:07:33,578 -20? -Yes. 163 00:07:33,620 --> 00:07:35,914 And you have some more friends who are sick? 164 00:07:35,956 --> 00:07:37,124 Very ill. 165 00:07:37,165 --> 00:07:39,418 Jane, can you imagine what it must be like 166 00:07:39,459 --> 00:07:40,794 if you lost 20 of your friends... 167 00:07:40,835 --> 00:07:42,963 -No. -...in the last 18 months? 168 00:07:43,004 --> 00:07:44,505 And you don't know why? 169 00:07:44,547 --> 00:07:45,715 Nobody knows. 170 00:07:45,757 --> 00:07:47,301 Three years later, 171 00:07:47,342 --> 00:07:49,510 as little is known as three years ago, 172 00:07:49,552 --> 00:07:50,595 when all of this started. 173 00:07:50,637 --> 00:07:52,597 Do you know if you have it? 174 00:07:52,639 --> 00:07:54,808 There might be a time bomb inside of me, 175 00:07:54,849 --> 00:07:56,517 we may have all been exposed to it 176 00:07:56,559 --> 00:07:58,728 and have some kind of immunity to it. 177 00:07:58,770 --> 00:07:59,896 Again, no one knows. 178 00:07:59,938 --> 00:08:02,774 Dr. Jaffe, what happens if years pass 179 00:08:02,816 --> 00:08:04,234 and you still don't know what it is, 180 00:08:04,276 --> 00:08:06,611 what causes it, much less how to cure it? 181 00:08:06,653 --> 00:08:09,323 Well, we hope that doesn't happen, but, uh -- 182 00:08:09,364 --> 00:08:10,531 But if it does? 183 00:08:10,573 --> 00:08:12,242 We're going to be in for a big problem. 184 00:08:12,284 --> 00:08:14,494 -Who's "we?" -All of us. 185 00:08:17,580 --> 00:08:20,541 Announcer: Come to Man's Country, see what we're all about 186 00:08:20,583 --> 00:08:22,543 and what we have to offer. 187 00:08:22,585 --> 00:08:25,380 Come to Man's Country and develop your body, 188 00:08:25,422 --> 00:08:27,924 or a friendship with somebody else's. 189 00:08:27,966 --> 00:08:29,843 Visit us once and you'll come again 190 00:08:29,884 --> 00:08:32,387 and again. 191 00:08:32,429 --> 00:08:34,555 Taylor: I honestly am not sure 192 00:08:34,597 --> 00:08:38,559 that the public was as aware of the fact 193 00:08:38,601 --> 00:08:42,147 that even bath houses existed or what went on there, 194 00:08:42,189 --> 00:08:44,774 and I'm talking about the straight population. 195 00:08:44,816 --> 00:08:46,609 Man: Gay bath houses are widely considered 196 00:08:46,651 --> 00:08:48,569 as sex clubs, places 197 00:08:48,611 --> 00:08:51,406 where homosexual men share sex often 198 00:08:51,448 --> 00:08:54,034 with several partners whom they may or may not know. 199 00:08:54,075 --> 00:08:55,576 Jones: There was a lot of sex going on, 200 00:08:55,618 --> 00:08:57,620 but there was also a lot of socializing. 201 00:08:57,662 --> 00:09:00,248 Going to the bathes was a weakly event 202 00:09:00,290 --> 00:09:02,376 that most of us enjoyed quite a bit. 203 00:09:02,417 --> 00:09:05,170 Staley: I was a closeted bond trader on Wall Street, 204 00:09:05,212 --> 00:09:06,587 leading a double life. 205 00:09:06,629 --> 00:09:08,298 And it was behind closed doors, 206 00:09:08,340 --> 00:09:12,052 and it felt regulated, very safe, very commercial, 207 00:09:12,093 --> 00:09:13,594 where you'd walk around in towels 208 00:09:13,636 --> 00:09:16,473 and see hot men in towels. 209 00:09:16,515 --> 00:09:18,392 Kramer: Guys, until we know better, cool it. 210 00:09:18,433 --> 00:09:19,600 Lay off the number of people 211 00:09:19,642 --> 00:09:21,269 you are having sex with until we know better, 212 00:09:21,311 --> 00:09:22,812 because if it is a virus 213 00:09:22,854 --> 00:09:24,647 and it is sexually transmitted, 214 00:09:24,689 --> 00:09:27,526 it is passing between us, so let's cool it for a while. 215 00:09:27,567 --> 00:09:31,612 It was an enormous amount of denial. 216 00:09:31,654 --> 00:09:34,199 France: Larry Kramer's most famous essay, 217 00:09:34,241 --> 00:09:36,493 "1,112 And Counting," 218 00:09:36,535 --> 00:09:38,119 started out by saying, 219 00:09:38,161 --> 00:09:39,620 "If this article 220 00:09:39,662 --> 00:09:42,123 doesn't scare the shit out of you, then it should." 221 00:09:42,165 --> 00:09:45,626 Specter: Larry basically anticipated what was going to happen, 222 00:09:45,668 --> 00:09:47,837 and he was shunned. 223 00:09:47,879 --> 00:09:49,047 These people 224 00:09:49,089 --> 00:09:51,883 who were just feeling the vigor of freedom 225 00:09:51,925 --> 00:09:55,262 were told, "Everything you're doing is killing you." 226 00:09:55,303 --> 00:09:57,680 And these bath houses, where there's lots of sex 227 00:09:57,722 --> 00:09:59,807 with different partners who you don't even know, 228 00:09:59,849 --> 00:10:02,519 that's the worst thing possible. 229 00:10:02,561 --> 00:10:03,562 Feinstein: I don't believe 230 00:10:03,603 --> 00:10:05,230 that this city has any business 231 00:10:05,272 --> 00:10:07,941 permitting businesses to operate 232 00:10:07,982 --> 00:10:10,318 whose sole source of being 233 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,696 is the very activity that communicates the disease. 234 00:10:13,738 --> 00:10:17,576 Dr. Silverman: Dianne Feinstein wanted me to close the bath houses. 235 00:10:17,617 --> 00:10:20,161 And she basically said, "If you can save just one life, 236 00:10:20,203 --> 00:10:21,662 it's worth closing them." 237 00:10:21,704 --> 00:10:23,873 There are still number of people 238 00:10:23,915 --> 00:10:26,334 who refuse to believe that the problem exists, 239 00:10:26,376 --> 00:10:30,380 and what we're talking about is playing Russian roulette. 240 00:10:30,422 --> 00:10:32,173 I got a call one day from Cleve, 241 00:10:32,215 --> 00:10:34,509 and he said to me, "Merv, 242 00:10:34,551 --> 00:10:36,344 if you close the bath houses, 243 00:10:36,386 --> 00:10:38,555 I'm going to man the barricades." 244 00:10:38,597 --> 00:10:42,058 Jones: I did not want them to be shut down by the government. 245 00:10:42,100 --> 00:10:44,352 I mean, what's next, we going to close the bars? 246 00:10:44,394 --> 00:10:45,770 I mean, I don't think it was unrealistic 247 00:10:45,812 --> 00:10:48,273 to be frightened of government action against us 248 00:10:48,315 --> 00:10:49,690 during a period 249 00:10:49,732 --> 00:10:52,193 where we had only just recently been de-criminalized. 250 00:10:52,235 --> 00:10:55,614 It is the most frightening medical mystery of our times. 251 00:10:55,655 --> 00:10:57,532 AIDS has spread worldwide. 252 00:10:57,574 --> 00:11:00,577 But apparently it began in equatorial Africa 253 00:11:00,619 --> 00:11:02,370 and somehow spread to Haiti, 254 00:11:02,412 --> 00:11:04,498 and from Haiti, to the The United States. 255 00:11:04,539 --> 00:11:07,501 Scientists strongly suspect it is a virus. 256 00:11:07,542 --> 00:11:09,877 All the evidence indicates it can be transmitted 257 00:11:09,919 --> 00:11:13,089 only by sexual contact or mixing of blood. 258 00:11:13,131 --> 00:11:15,300 Rivera: To every single one of us 259 00:11:15,342 --> 00:11:16,759 who may need a blood transfusion 260 00:11:16,801 --> 00:11:19,179 because of an accident or operation, 261 00:11:19,220 --> 00:11:21,306 there is now a steadily growing fear 262 00:11:21,348 --> 00:11:23,433 that the nation's entire blood supply 263 00:11:23,475 --> 00:11:25,393 may be threatened by AIDS. 264 00:11:25,435 --> 00:11:26,727 Rucker: Last year, a baby 265 00:11:26,769 --> 00:11:28,938 received a blood transfusion from this bank 266 00:11:28,980 --> 00:11:30,731 and developed AIDS. 267 00:11:30,773 --> 00:11:33,443 Records indicated the donor was a homosexual. 268 00:11:33,485 --> 00:11:34,735 Some doctors believe, 269 00:11:34,777 --> 00:11:38,323 the best precaution might be to restrict all homosexuals 270 00:11:38,365 --> 00:11:39,740 from donating blood, 271 00:11:39,782 --> 00:11:41,742 until more is known about AIDS. 272 00:11:41,784 --> 00:11:42,994 We realized that gay men 273 00:11:43,036 --> 00:11:44,621 had to get out of the blood-collecting system, 274 00:11:44,663 --> 00:11:47,541 and so we called a meeting to make that recommendation. 275 00:11:47,582 --> 00:11:48,625 Rivera: The Red Cross, 276 00:11:48,667 --> 00:11:50,251 the commercial blood companies, 277 00:11:50,293 --> 00:11:52,253 and The Center for Disease Control 278 00:11:52,295 --> 00:11:54,673 have joined in asking the groups 279 00:11:54,713 --> 00:11:55,756 who are at risk 280 00:11:55,798 --> 00:11:58,259 not to donate or sell their blood. 281 00:11:58,301 --> 00:12:00,387 With new AIDS cases being reported 282 00:12:00,428 --> 00:12:03,348 at the rate of 4 to 6 every single day, 283 00:12:03,390 --> 00:12:05,684 the purity of the nation's blood supply 284 00:12:05,724 --> 00:12:08,769 has literally become a matter of life and death. 285 00:12:08,811 --> 00:12:11,814 Dr. Curran: Once the epidemiologic pattern was clear 286 00:12:11,856 --> 00:12:14,025 that this was caused by a virus, 287 00:12:14,067 --> 00:12:18,405 the race was on to find the virus. 288 00:12:18,446 --> 00:12:20,281 Dr. Fauci: The two labs, The Montagnier lab 289 00:12:20,323 --> 00:12:22,283 at the Institut Pasteur in Paris 290 00:12:22,325 --> 00:12:24,411 and Bob Gallo's lab at the NIH, 291 00:12:24,452 --> 00:12:25,786 the National Cancer Institute, 292 00:12:25,828 --> 00:12:27,163 were both trying to show 293 00:12:27,205 --> 00:12:28,873 that not only do we have the virus, 294 00:12:28,915 --> 00:12:30,458 but we have absolute proof 295 00:12:30,500 --> 00:12:33,211 that it's the virus causing the disease. 296 00:12:33,253 --> 00:12:36,047 Dr. Gallo: I think healthy competition is very useful. 297 00:12:36,089 --> 00:12:39,467 It sparks you. It sparks creativity. 298 00:12:39,509 --> 00:12:40,801 Engel: We wanted to be able to say, "We had cracked 299 00:12:40,843 --> 00:12:42,178 this, not the French." 300 00:12:42,220 --> 00:12:44,805 The probable cause of AIDS has been found -- 301 00:12:44,847 --> 00:12:47,601 a variant of a known human cancer virus. 302 00:12:47,642 --> 00:12:48,893 And Heckler called a press conference 303 00:12:48,935 --> 00:12:50,853 and said, "We've done it. The Americans have discovered it. 304 00:12:50,895 --> 00:12:53,814 We are so proud of our American scientists." 305 00:12:53,856 --> 00:12:56,276 Heckler: We now have a blood test for AIDS. 306 00:12:56,317 --> 00:12:59,820 We should be able to prevent transfusion-related cases. 307 00:12:59,862 --> 00:13:01,114 Hager: This is what the virus 308 00:13:01,155 --> 00:13:03,700 looks like, magnified thousands of times. 309 00:13:03,742 --> 00:13:05,826 Dr. Johnson: Now labeled HIV 310 00:13:05,868 --> 00:13:07,912 for Human Immunodeficiency Virus. 311 00:13:07,954 --> 00:13:10,039 The virus is particularly destructive, 312 00:13:10,081 --> 00:13:12,083 because it attacks the T4 cells, 313 00:13:12,125 --> 00:13:14,628 which direct the body's immune system. 314 00:13:14,669 --> 00:13:16,879 Dr. Gallo: We just made a serious scientific advance, 315 00:13:16,921 --> 00:13:18,506 and we've developed a blood test. 316 00:13:18,548 --> 00:13:20,467 Without the blood test, you don't know who's infected. 317 00:13:20,508 --> 00:13:21,884 There could never be therapy. 318 00:13:21,926 --> 00:13:23,470 Hager: But what about French scientists 319 00:13:23,511 --> 00:13:25,430 at the Pasteur Institut in Paris 320 00:13:25,472 --> 00:13:27,307 who say they found the real virus? 321 00:13:27,348 --> 00:13:29,684 Dr. Guinan: Because of this fight between the French 322 00:13:29,726 --> 00:13:31,894 and the Americans about who discovered the virus, 323 00:13:31,936 --> 00:13:33,896 the test was delayed by a year. 324 00:13:33,938 --> 00:13:36,483 Federal health officials today announced the licensing 325 00:13:36,524 --> 00:13:37,858 of a new screening test 326 00:13:37,900 --> 00:13:40,487 for AIDS for protect the nation's blood supply. 327 00:13:40,528 --> 00:13:42,530 Test kits are now being sent to blood banks 328 00:13:42,572 --> 00:13:43,864 all around the country. 329 00:13:43,906 --> 00:13:45,908 We want to identify every person who's a carrier. 330 00:13:45,950 --> 00:13:47,868 We want to identify every possible way 331 00:13:47,910 --> 00:13:50,330 to stop them from spreading the disease. 332 00:13:50,371 --> 00:13:51,498 Levi: The controversy is over 333 00:13:51,539 --> 00:13:52,873 whether those who test positive 334 00:13:52,915 --> 00:13:54,917 should be reported to the state, and the reason 335 00:13:54,959 --> 00:13:56,711 that we're generally opposed to that is 336 00:13:56,753 --> 00:13:58,171 that it will discourage people 337 00:13:58,212 --> 00:13:59,880 from being tested for fear 338 00:13:59,922 --> 00:14:02,550 that their names will become part of a master list. 339 00:14:02,592 --> 00:14:04,761 There are not Civil Rights guarantees 340 00:14:04,803 --> 00:14:06,554 to protect your confidentiality. 341 00:14:06,596 --> 00:14:08,348 You may lose your medical insurance. 342 00:14:08,389 --> 00:14:09,932 You may lose your employment. 343 00:14:09,974 --> 00:14:12,893 Specter: The AIDS test was like an atomic bomb going off. 344 00:14:12,935 --> 00:14:15,814 It was something everybody wanted, but then suddenly, 345 00:14:15,854 --> 00:14:19,900 there was a way of really focusing that discrimination. 346 00:14:19,942 --> 00:14:21,944 If the only way to stop it is quarantining people, 347 00:14:21,986 --> 00:14:23,904 I don't think there's anyway around it. 348 00:14:23,946 --> 00:14:25,490 I think they're gonna have to do it. 349 00:14:25,532 --> 00:14:27,074 Jones: Some were saying that people 350 00:14:27,116 --> 00:14:29,160 who tested positive should be quarantined, 351 00:14:29,202 --> 00:14:31,912 should be tattooed, so we were frightened by it. 352 00:14:31,954 --> 00:14:34,081 And also, we had no treatment, 353 00:14:34,123 --> 00:14:37,669 so what do you really do with that information? 354 00:14:38,961 --> 00:14:40,921 Rather: AIDS is a frightening disease 355 00:14:40,963 --> 00:14:42,131 that is known to have struck 356 00:14:42,173 --> 00:14:45,092 at least 12,000 Americans and probably more. 357 00:14:45,134 --> 00:14:46,594 Tonight, another case of AIDS 358 00:14:46,636 --> 00:14:47,928 has been confirmed, 359 00:14:47,970 --> 00:14:49,972 affecting the most well-known victim yet. 360 00:14:50,014 --> 00:14:57,313 Mr. Rock Hudson has Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome. 361 00:14:57,355 --> 00:14:58,981 It was a huge news story. 362 00:14:59,023 --> 00:15:02,943 And Rock Hudson had been one of the biggest movie stars 363 00:15:02,985 --> 00:15:05,112 of three decades prior to that. 364 00:15:05,154 --> 00:15:07,866 Erickson: Rock Hudson made more than 60 movies, 365 00:15:07,907 --> 00:15:10,034 earning an Oscar nomination for "Giant" 366 00:15:10,076 --> 00:15:12,995 with Elizabeth Taylor in 1956. 367 00:15:13,037 --> 00:15:15,248 Miller: Hudson came to Paris to get treatment for AIDS 368 00:15:15,289 --> 00:15:17,250 under one of the experimental programs 369 00:15:17,291 --> 00:15:19,126 run by the Pasteur Institut, 370 00:15:19,168 --> 00:15:23,130 The Institut Pasteur immediately went to finding that virus, 371 00:15:23,172 --> 00:15:25,466 starting looking for treatments. 372 00:15:25,508 --> 00:15:28,177 Rock Hudson went there. 373 00:15:28,219 --> 00:15:31,138 Many other people with money went there. 374 00:15:31,180 --> 00:15:34,809 The United States of America didn't have anything. 375 00:15:34,851 --> 00:15:37,437 Dow: The disclosure comes as AIDS victims 376 00:15:37,478 --> 00:15:38,979 and their allies in this country 377 00:15:39,021 --> 00:15:40,981 are becoming increasingly impatient 378 00:15:41,023 --> 00:15:42,609 with what they see as a lack 379 00:15:42,650 --> 00:15:45,403 of commitment to conquering the disease. 380 00:15:45,445 --> 00:15:48,782 I think everybody is saddened that Rock Hudson has AIDS, 381 00:15:48,823 --> 00:15:50,784 and I think people should be saddened 382 00:15:50,825 --> 00:15:54,161 that almost 12,000 other Americans also have AIDS. 383 00:15:54,203 --> 00:15:55,996 Jones: It was so ironic when Rock Hudson 384 00:15:56,038 --> 00:15:57,707 got on the cover of People magazine. 385 00:15:57,749 --> 00:15:59,876 They said, "Now we're all at risk." 386 00:15:59,918 --> 00:16:02,253 Really? You picked this one old closet case from Hollywood, 387 00:16:02,295 --> 00:16:03,504 and you focus on him? 388 00:16:03,546 --> 00:16:06,006 Dr. Gottlieb: Mr. Hudson returned to Los Angeles 389 00:16:06,048 --> 00:16:09,009 in order to be a familiar environment 390 00:16:09,051 --> 00:16:12,012 and to be cared for by his own physicians. 391 00:16:12,054 --> 00:16:13,389 Jones: You know, the money the media 392 00:16:13,431 --> 00:16:15,015 spent getting that helicopter shot 393 00:16:15,057 --> 00:16:17,393 of him coming back on the gurney from Paris 394 00:16:17,435 --> 00:16:18,686 was probably more than the feds 395 00:16:18,728 --> 00:16:20,521 had spent on research at that point. 396 00:16:20,563 --> 00:16:22,231 Woman: Doctors say Hudson's in good spirits 397 00:16:22,273 --> 00:16:23,942 and happy to be home. 398 00:16:23,983 --> 00:16:27,027 Hanks: Suddenly, we all knew somebody who was dying of AIDS, 399 00:16:27,069 --> 00:16:29,029 and suddenly there was a different degree 400 00:16:29,071 --> 00:16:32,032 of compassion and attention paid to this thing 401 00:16:32,074 --> 00:16:33,660 that we did not understand. 402 00:16:33,701 --> 00:16:35,119 It was a game changer. 403 00:16:35,161 --> 00:16:39,039 Do you think that the identity of the early victims, 404 00:16:39,081 --> 00:16:41,041 and I'm speaking of the groups 405 00:16:41,083 --> 00:16:43,670 that it was supposed to be limited to, you know, 406 00:16:43,711 --> 00:16:45,045 the whole group. 407 00:16:45,087 --> 00:16:47,047 Did that have anything to do with the pace 408 00:16:47,089 --> 00:16:48,675 of government taking action. 409 00:16:48,716 --> 00:16:50,844 Can there be any doubt about it. 410 00:16:50,885 --> 00:16:52,219 AIDS has gotten more publicity, 411 00:16:52,261 --> 00:16:55,306 since Rock Hudson was declared an AIDS victim 412 00:16:55,348 --> 00:16:58,058 than it has in the previous two years, in my opinion. 413 00:16:58,100 --> 00:16:59,477 There's no doubt in my mind 414 00:16:59,519 --> 00:17:01,980 that the response of the Federal Government was lethargic, 415 00:17:02,021 --> 00:17:04,231 it was apathetic, it was grudging. 416 00:17:04,273 --> 00:17:06,359 The President of The United States, God bless him, 417 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,529 has not yet mentioned the word "AIDS" in public. 418 00:17:09,570 --> 00:17:10,780 In Hollywood last night, 419 00:17:10,822 --> 00:17:13,073 a special benefit to rally support and money 420 00:17:13,115 --> 00:17:14,868 for the fight against AIDS. 421 00:17:14,909 --> 00:17:16,661 Nelson: Some of Hollywood's most famous names 422 00:17:16,703 --> 00:17:18,705 and faces turned out for the benefit called, 423 00:17:18,746 --> 00:17:20,581 "Celebration of Life." 424 00:17:20,623 --> 00:17:22,082 The goal was to raise a million dollars 425 00:17:22,124 --> 00:17:24,961 for organizations that support AIDS victims. 426 00:17:25,003 --> 00:17:26,253 It was a glittery Hollywood affair, 427 00:17:26,295 --> 00:17:28,172 but the evening turned serious 428 00:17:28,214 --> 00:17:30,925 when Burt Lancaster read a message from Rock Hudson. 429 00:17:30,967 --> 00:17:34,094 "I'm not happy that I have AIDS. 430 00:17:34,136 --> 00:17:36,263 But if that is helping others, 431 00:17:36,305 --> 00:17:39,517 I can at least know that my own misfortune 432 00:17:39,559 --> 00:17:42,395 has had some positive worth." 433 00:17:42,436 --> 00:17:44,104 Even though it was widely known 434 00:17:44,146 --> 00:17:46,106 that Rock Hudson was suffering from AIDS, 435 00:17:46,148 --> 00:17:48,902 it was stunning news today when word came of his death. 436 00:17:48,943 --> 00:17:51,111 Downs: It's said news for his millions of fans. 437 00:17:51,153 --> 00:17:52,321 For the country, 438 00:17:52,363 --> 00:17:54,908 it threatens to fuel the fear about AIDS. 439 00:17:54,949 --> 00:17:57,117 In some places, fear of the disease 440 00:17:57,159 --> 00:17:59,119 is itself becoming epidemic. 441 00:17:59,161 --> 00:18:03,123 Wilson: Even though we have made some progress by then 442 00:18:03,165 --> 00:18:05,043 in understanding the disease, 443 00:18:05,084 --> 00:18:07,127 there is huge amount of panic. 444 00:18:07,169 --> 00:18:11,382 People still believe that it was an airborne disease 445 00:18:11,424 --> 00:18:13,300 and there are things about mosquitos. 446 00:18:13,342 --> 00:18:17,346 There's just all of this misinformation going on. 447 00:18:17,388 --> 00:18:21,225 The misunderstanding and fear about AIDS are so widespread, 448 00:18:21,267 --> 00:18:23,436 that even hospitals have difficulty 449 00:18:23,477 --> 00:18:26,022 getting proper medical and volunteer help 450 00:18:26,064 --> 00:18:28,148 to provide regular care for these sick children. 451 00:18:28,190 --> 00:18:30,150 Walters: Doctor, the other day, I put my arms 452 00:18:30,192 --> 00:18:31,945 around a 2-year-old baby 453 00:18:31,986 --> 00:18:33,654 who has AIDS, 454 00:18:33,696 --> 00:18:35,448 and the baby was perspiring, 455 00:18:35,489 --> 00:18:37,951 and later a friend said to me, "How could you do that? 456 00:18:37,992 --> 00:18:39,159 What about the perspiration?" 457 00:18:39,201 --> 00:18:40,661 Should I have been scared? 458 00:18:40,703 --> 00:18:42,038 Absolutely not. 459 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:43,831 Should one be worried about kissing? 460 00:18:43,873 --> 00:18:45,165 We don't think so. 461 00:18:45,207 --> 00:18:47,961 Suppose someone sneezes on you or at you. 462 00:18:48,002 --> 00:18:49,253 There's no evidence that the disease 463 00:18:49,295 --> 00:18:52,381 is transmissible by that kind of exposure. 464 00:18:52,423 --> 00:18:55,175 Toilet seats, locker rooms, restrooms? 465 00:18:55,217 --> 00:18:58,178 There's no evidence that that's ever been demonstrated. 466 00:18:58,220 --> 00:19:00,180 But doctor, you keep saying no evidence. 467 00:19:00,222 --> 00:19:01,766 But that kind of scares me. 468 00:19:01,808 --> 00:19:04,685 I mean, no evidence may mean it can happen 469 00:19:04,727 --> 00:19:05,979 so therefore so you shouldn't kiss 470 00:19:06,020 --> 00:19:07,563 and you shouldn't use the glass 471 00:19:07,605 --> 00:19:09,649 and you shouldn't do some of the things we talked about. 472 00:19:09,690 --> 00:19:13,611 We began to sense the fear and the ignorance. 473 00:19:13,653 --> 00:19:15,404 The crew at my television show 474 00:19:15,446 --> 00:19:17,197 would not change the furniture 475 00:19:17,239 --> 00:19:19,659 that the HIV guests sat on. 476 00:19:19,700 --> 00:19:22,620 And of course, it did a lot to promote homophobia. 477 00:19:22,662 --> 00:19:24,789 God ordained a monogamous relationship, 478 00:19:24,831 --> 00:19:26,666 and we're not having these problems and I think it's wrong. 479 00:19:26,707 --> 00:19:28,709 Even though it doesn't cause it, it's wrong. 480 00:19:28,751 --> 00:19:31,587 But I want to point out, homosexuality... 481 00:19:31,629 --> 00:19:33,089 [ Applause ] 482 00:19:33,131 --> 00:19:34,632 It's wrong, all right. 483 00:19:34,674 --> 00:19:36,509 Let's hear it for it's a sin, all right. 484 00:19:36,550 --> 00:19:38,218 Lots of people feel that way. 485 00:19:38,260 --> 00:19:39,929 They're blatant with their sex. 486 00:19:39,971 --> 00:19:41,221 That's what's causing it. 487 00:19:41,263 --> 00:19:43,016 That's what's causing a lot of the spreading around. 488 00:19:43,057 --> 00:19:44,224 I don't like it. 489 00:19:44,266 --> 00:19:46,102 If you, like, spread AIDS around and stuff, 490 00:19:46,144 --> 00:19:47,603 it kills innocent people. 491 00:19:47,645 --> 00:19:49,438 Stossel: Complaints about gay discrimination 492 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,231 and violence, gay bashing 493 00:19:51,273 --> 00:19:53,693 is the name for it, have risen dramatically. 494 00:19:53,734 --> 00:19:55,235 Jones: He had a five-inch dagger, 495 00:19:55,277 --> 00:19:58,405 which he buried in my back just about the shoulder blade, 496 00:19:58,447 --> 00:20:00,282 and then the two of them ran off, screaming, 497 00:20:00,324 --> 00:20:01,659 "Queer! Queer!" 498 00:20:01,701 --> 00:20:03,243 Man: In Atlanta, police believe there may be 499 00:20:03,285 --> 00:20:06,246 as many as five unsolved murders of gay men. 500 00:20:06,288 --> 00:20:07,498 Experts believe that one reason 501 00:20:07,540 --> 00:20:09,333 for the increase in anti-gay violence 502 00:20:09,375 --> 00:20:12,045 is the public's fear and anger of AIDS. 503 00:20:12,086 --> 00:20:13,671 We do reap it in our flash 504 00:20:13,713 --> 00:20:15,255 when we violate the laws of God. 505 00:20:15,297 --> 00:20:16,674 Frank: There were some people on the right 506 00:20:16,716 --> 00:20:19,844 who said, "See what happens when people have unnatural sex? 507 00:20:19,886 --> 00:20:20,887 It serves them right." 508 00:20:20,928 --> 00:20:22,262 Mayoral candidate Louie Welch 509 00:20:22,304 --> 00:20:25,641 has announced his plan for dealing with AIDS in Houston. 510 00:20:25,683 --> 00:20:27,101 We'll talk live with the candidate 511 00:20:27,143 --> 00:20:28,310 about his four-part answer 512 00:20:28,352 --> 00:20:30,354 to combating spread of that disease. 513 00:20:30,396 --> 00:20:31,689 Four points? 514 00:20:31,731 --> 00:20:35,068 I can remember the two of them. -What was that? 515 00:20:35,109 --> 00:20:37,277 One of them was to shoot the queers. 516 00:20:37,319 --> 00:20:38,905 [ Laughter ] 517 00:20:40,156 --> 00:20:41,281 There are new warnings 518 00:20:41,323 --> 00:20:42,909 tonight that the AIDS virus 519 00:20:42,950 --> 00:20:46,079 may have already infected one million Americans. 520 00:20:46,120 --> 00:20:47,747 -Ryan White. -Here. 521 00:20:47,788 --> 00:20:50,457 Nissenson: The first day of school was even more disappointing 522 00:20:50,499 --> 00:20:53,460 than Ryan White had expected. 523 00:20:53,502 --> 00:20:55,295 He wanted to go with the other children, 524 00:20:55,337 --> 00:20:57,924 but the Western Middle School wouldn't let him. 525 00:20:57,965 --> 00:20:59,884 Ryan, I'm gonna get ready to give my notes. 526 00:20:59,926 --> 00:21:02,887 The school set up a speaker phone. 527 00:21:02,929 --> 00:21:04,471 But the phone worked so poorly, 528 00:21:04,513 --> 00:21:07,558 that it left Ryan feeling frustrated and angry. 529 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,309 White: It stinks. 530 00:21:09,351 --> 00:21:11,145 You can't hear anything. 531 00:21:11,187 --> 00:21:12,312 It's all muffled. 532 00:21:12,354 --> 00:21:14,982 Harris: Not that life has ever been easy for Ryan. 533 00:21:15,024 --> 00:21:16,525 A hemophiliac since birth, 534 00:21:16,567 --> 00:21:19,612 he's always had to be careful to keep the usual bumps 535 00:21:19,653 --> 00:21:21,321 and bruises of childhood 536 00:21:21,363 --> 00:21:23,908 from leading to uncontrolled bleeding. 537 00:21:23,950 --> 00:21:27,327 The greatest shock came when Ryan was diagnosed with AIDS. 538 00:21:27,369 --> 00:21:29,789 The source was the same blood product 539 00:21:29,830 --> 00:21:32,125 that had helped control his hemophilia. 540 00:21:32,166 --> 00:21:34,001 Rivera: Since each bottle of concentrate 541 00:21:34,043 --> 00:21:37,588 contains the blood of at least 26 different donors, 542 00:21:37,630 --> 00:21:39,132 each and every month, 543 00:21:39,173 --> 00:21:42,593 hemophiliacs are using blood from scores of different people. 544 00:21:42,635 --> 00:21:45,179 Specter: Ryan White was the first kid who was trying to go to school 545 00:21:45,221 --> 00:21:47,431 when he was HIV positive. 546 00:21:47,473 --> 00:21:49,934 And many, many people in America are saying, 547 00:21:49,976 --> 00:21:52,603 "You know you got HIV in an acceptable way, 548 00:21:52,645 --> 00:21:54,354 and we're so, so sorry, 549 00:21:54,396 --> 00:21:57,191 but we're not gonna let you go near our children." 550 00:21:57,233 --> 00:21:58,776 Harris: Today, the Whites asked the Federal court 551 00:21:58,818 --> 00:22:00,987 to force the school to let Ryan in. 552 00:22:01,028 --> 00:22:03,405 Ryan said, "Yeah, they're trying to prolong this in the courts." 553 00:22:03,447 --> 00:22:04,782 "They think I'm going to die. 554 00:22:04,824 --> 00:22:06,450 Well, they better not hold their breath," he said, 555 00:22:06,492 --> 00:22:08,368 "'Cause I'm gonna get to go back to school." 556 00:22:08,410 --> 00:22:10,746 It gave him something to live for. 557 00:22:10,788 --> 00:22:14,000 Mr. President, if you had younger children, 558 00:22:14,041 --> 00:22:15,751 would you send them to a school 559 00:22:15,793 --> 00:22:17,544 with a child who had AIDS? 560 00:22:17,586 --> 00:22:20,173 It was actually his 30th press conference 561 00:22:20,214 --> 00:22:22,049 since the epidemic began, 562 00:22:22,091 --> 00:22:25,219 and a reporter finally asked Reagan about AIDS. 563 00:22:25,261 --> 00:22:27,680 It is true that some medical sources 564 00:22:27,721 --> 00:22:31,433 have said this cannot be communicated in any way, 565 00:22:31,475 --> 00:22:32,893 other the ones we already know, 566 00:22:32,935 --> 00:22:35,562 and which would not involve a child being in a school. 567 00:22:35,604 --> 00:22:39,399 And yet, medicine has not come forth unequivocally 568 00:22:39,441 --> 00:22:40,400 and said, 569 00:22:40,442 --> 00:22:42,611 "This we know for a fact 570 00:22:42,653 --> 00:22:44,571 that it is safe." 571 00:22:44,613 --> 00:22:49,118 Reagan seemed to be throwing that little doubt as a sock 572 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,286 to the right wingers 573 00:22:50,328 --> 00:22:52,454 that he didn't want to antagonize. 574 00:22:52,496 --> 00:22:54,581 But when The President of The United State 575 00:22:54,623 --> 00:22:56,416 makes a statement like that, 576 00:22:56,458 --> 00:22:59,419 you can imagine how people think he must know, 577 00:22:59,461 --> 00:23:01,005 and maybe they should worry 578 00:23:01,047 --> 00:23:02,589 about their kids going to school. 579 00:23:02,631 --> 00:23:04,050 This was a disservice 580 00:23:04,091 --> 00:23:05,425 by The President of The United States. 581 00:23:05,467 --> 00:23:07,345 Man: Do you guarantee 582 00:23:07,385 --> 00:23:10,430 that my daughter will not get AIDS by helping him? 583 00:23:10,472 --> 00:23:13,433 If you can't, then he shouldn't be in school. 584 00:23:13,475 --> 00:23:15,311 Brokaw: Today, a long, legal battle 585 00:23:15,353 --> 00:23:16,645 shifted in Ryan's favor. 586 00:23:16,687 --> 00:23:19,232 Cummins: Dozens of parents pulled their children out of school 587 00:23:19,273 --> 00:23:21,150 when word spread through this small town 588 00:23:21,192 --> 00:23:22,943 that Ryan had returned to class. 589 00:23:22,985 --> 00:23:25,029 White: Some kids, you know, if I walk by them in the halls, 590 00:23:25,071 --> 00:23:27,740 they flatten themselves up against the locker. 591 00:23:27,781 --> 00:23:30,159 And they're saying, "Look out. 592 00:23:30,201 --> 00:23:31,451 Look out. There he is." 593 00:23:31,493 --> 00:23:34,247 They wrote "fag" on his folder inside his locker 594 00:23:34,288 --> 00:23:38,084 and put a lot of obscenities. 595 00:23:38,125 --> 00:23:39,626 White-Ginder: People were just being very cruel. 596 00:23:39,668 --> 00:23:41,461 I mean, we'd be out grocery shopping, 597 00:23:41,503 --> 00:23:43,964 walking out to the car, "Homo!" 598 00:23:44,006 --> 00:23:45,465 So, Ryan definitely knew 599 00:23:45,507 --> 00:23:47,467 how the gay community was being treated, 600 00:23:47,509 --> 00:23:49,511 because he was being treated the same way. 601 00:23:49,553 --> 00:23:51,471 Ryan White's problem is one more 602 00:23:51,513 --> 00:23:53,473 and more schools are going to be facing. 603 00:23:53,515 --> 00:23:56,852 You're not gonna kill my baby. 604 00:23:56,894 --> 00:23:58,478 Man: Go to hell! 605 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,358 Taylor: The stories of mistreatment of persons with AIDS 606 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,987 are often unbelievable and always unconscionable. 607 00:24:07,029 --> 00:24:09,407 And it so angered me 608 00:24:09,447 --> 00:24:12,326 that I finally thought to myself, 609 00:24:12,368 --> 00:24:15,871 "Bitch, do something yourself." 610 00:24:15,913 --> 00:24:19,375 Elizabeth Taylor was about passion and about love. 611 00:24:19,417 --> 00:24:22,378 Her personal force brought powerful people 612 00:24:22,420 --> 00:24:25,798 to the table, so she partnered with 613 00:24:25,839 --> 00:24:29,885 Dr. Mathilde Krim, and the two of them together created AMFAR. 614 00:24:29,927 --> 00:24:32,096 At that point, there was no turning back. 615 00:24:32,138 --> 00:24:35,891 AIDS was not going to go back in the closet. 616 00:24:35,933 --> 00:24:40,687 Dr. Gottlieb: In 1987 in Washington D.C., AMFAR had an event 617 00:24:40,729 --> 00:24:43,523 and Ronald Reagan agreed to speak. 618 00:24:43,565 --> 00:24:45,192 Elizabeth Taylor says to him, 619 00:24:45,234 --> 00:24:49,322 "Whatever you feel about this, do this for me." 620 00:24:49,363 --> 00:24:51,615 Dr. Silverman: I was the master of ceremonies, 621 00:24:51,657 --> 00:24:53,533 and I was standing there next 622 00:24:53,575 --> 00:24:55,786 to The President when was giving his speech. 623 00:24:55,828 --> 00:24:58,914 America faces a disease that is fatal and spreading, 624 00:24:58,956 --> 00:25:02,168 and this calls for understanding, not ignorance. 625 00:25:02,209 --> 00:25:03,919 [ Applause ] 626 00:25:03,961 --> 00:25:06,797 I spent a lot of time with his speech writer, 627 00:25:06,839 --> 00:25:09,549 and so the first half, he was saying the things 628 00:25:09,591 --> 00:25:12,261 that I thought the President should be saying. 629 00:25:12,303 --> 00:25:15,764 President Reagan: It's time we knew exactly what we were facing, 630 00:25:15,806 --> 00:25:19,352 and that's why I support routine testing. 631 00:25:19,393 --> 00:25:20,478 Dr. Silverman: Unfortunately, 632 00:25:20,518 --> 00:25:23,563 the back half was really about testing everybody, 633 00:25:23,605 --> 00:25:25,565 and what came out was the controversy. 634 00:25:25,607 --> 00:25:27,943 I've also asked to add the AIDS virus 635 00:25:27,985 --> 00:25:30,570 to the list of contagious diseases 636 00:25:30,612 --> 00:25:33,240 for which immigrants and aliens seeking permanent residence 637 00:25:33,282 --> 00:25:36,452 in the United States can be denied entry. 638 00:25:36,494 --> 00:25:39,579 [ Spectators booing ] 639 00:25:39,621 --> 00:25:41,457 This is an addition to the testing 640 00:25:41,499 --> 00:25:43,583 already under way in our military 641 00:25:43,625 --> 00:25:45,961 and foreign service. [ Booing continues ] 642 00:25:46,003 --> 00:25:48,588 Now, let me turn to what the states can do. 643 00:25:48,630 --> 00:25:49,965 Dr. Silverman: At that time, a number of people 644 00:25:50,007 --> 00:25:52,092 got up and turned their backs, 645 00:25:52,134 --> 00:25:54,303 which probably had never been done before. 646 00:25:54,345 --> 00:25:55,637 I think it was quite a statement, 647 00:25:55,679 --> 00:25:57,597 and it was an appropriate statement. 648 00:25:57,639 --> 00:25:58,849 [ Applause ] 649 00:25:58,891 --> 00:26:01,435 Gangel: The President rarely addresses hostile crowds, 650 00:26:01,477 --> 00:26:03,603 but testing is a controversial issue. 651 00:26:03,645 --> 00:26:06,065 This controversy has become the centerpiece 652 00:26:06,106 --> 00:26:08,775 of an international AIDS conference in Washington. 653 00:26:08,817 --> 00:26:12,112 Bazell: When Surgeon General C. Everett Koop addressed the conference 654 00:26:12,154 --> 00:26:14,073 this morning, he received a standing ovation 655 00:26:14,114 --> 00:26:16,825 from many of the scientists and healthcare workers. 656 00:26:16,867 --> 00:26:19,412 -You're embarrassing me. -Koop is popular, 657 00:26:19,453 --> 00:26:21,621 because he has opposed mandatory testing, 658 00:26:21,663 --> 00:26:25,334 and he's advocated education as the major tool to fight AIDS. 659 00:26:25,376 --> 00:26:27,794 Frank: Koop was consistent. Koop believed in life, 660 00:26:27,836 --> 00:26:29,629 and he was against abortion, 661 00:26:29,671 --> 00:26:32,508 but he was equally, firmly determined to save people 662 00:26:32,550 --> 00:26:33,633 from dying from AIDS. 663 00:26:33,675 --> 00:26:36,470 AIDS education must start at the lowest grade possible 664 00:26:36,512 --> 00:26:38,638 as part of any health or hygiene program. 665 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,308 We can no longer afford to sidestep 666 00:26:41,350 --> 00:26:43,310 frank, open discussions 667 00:26:43,352 --> 00:26:47,022 about sexual practices, heterosexual and homosexual. 668 00:26:47,064 --> 00:26:49,525 Let's be honest with ourselves. 669 00:26:49,567 --> 00:26:54,654 AIDS information can not be what some call "value neutral." 670 00:26:54,696 --> 00:26:57,366 After all, when it comes to preventing AIDS, 671 00:26:57,408 --> 00:27:01,287 don't medicine and morality teach the same lessons? 672 00:27:01,328 --> 00:27:03,663 Naftali: This was a nightmare for the administration. 673 00:27:03,705 --> 00:27:06,666 What they wanted was to say, "Abstain!" 674 00:27:06,708 --> 00:27:07,834 Not how to do it safely. 675 00:27:07,876 --> 00:27:08,919 Just don't do it. 676 00:27:08,961 --> 00:27:10,879 I think that abstinence has been 677 00:27:10,921 --> 00:27:12,839 lacking in much of the education. 678 00:27:12,881 --> 00:27:14,133 Naftali: But Koop said, 679 00:27:14,174 --> 00:27:16,051 "Well, whatever you think about homosexuality, 680 00:27:16,093 --> 00:27:18,929 it is irresponsible not to share with people 681 00:27:18,971 --> 00:27:20,931 what we know about the way 682 00:27:20,973 --> 00:27:24,684 to act on your sexual desires safely." 683 00:27:24,726 --> 00:27:27,187 We're talking about Everett Koop, the Surgeon General, Bob. 684 00:27:27,229 --> 00:27:30,065 Where is he in this administration now? 685 00:27:30,107 --> 00:27:32,401 Where, you know, here he is -- -Isolated, I think. 686 00:27:32,443 --> 00:27:33,693 I'm just saying, here he is, 687 00:27:33,735 --> 00:27:35,488 the Surgeon General, the Chief Health Officer. 688 00:27:35,529 --> 00:27:36,696 He's very outspoken, 689 00:27:36,738 --> 00:27:38,865 and he goes off and he does his own thing. 690 00:27:38,907 --> 00:27:41,577 Koop, at one point, wanted to send explanatory literature 691 00:27:41,619 --> 00:27:43,120 to every household in America, 692 00:27:43,162 --> 00:27:44,871 and they stopped him fast on that one. 693 00:27:44,913 --> 00:27:47,916 France: Reagan's deputies tried to shut him down. 694 00:27:47,958 --> 00:27:50,127 He started working out of his own home 695 00:27:50,169 --> 00:27:53,088 to produce this thing in secret. 696 00:27:53,130 --> 00:27:56,175 You should soon be receiving a historic document in your mail. 697 00:27:56,216 --> 00:27:57,593 It marks the first time 698 00:27:57,635 --> 00:27:59,719 the government has tried to reach every resident 699 00:27:59,761 --> 00:28:01,721 regarding a public health crisis. 700 00:28:01,763 --> 00:28:03,723 Dr. Koop: This mailing speaks in clear language 701 00:28:03,765 --> 00:28:05,725 about oral, vaginal, 702 00:28:05,767 --> 00:28:07,727 and anal intercourse, as well as 703 00:28:07,769 --> 00:28:09,313 the proper use of condoms. 704 00:28:09,355 --> 00:28:10,523 It's gotten so much publicity, 705 00:28:10,564 --> 00:28:11,898 and everyone's scared to death about it. 706 00:28:11,940 --> 00:28:13,400 Man: I definitely would not have 707 00:28:13,442 --> 00:28:15,319 a very short-term let's-go-to-bed type 708 00:28:15,361 --> 00:28:16,736 relationship, because, 709 00:28:16,778 --> 00:28:18,738 hey, I don't think the risk is worth it. 710 00:28:18,780 --> 00:28:20,740 The pendulum that swung so wildly 711 00:28:20,782 --> 00:28:26,830 in the '60s is swinging back to a more conservative position. 712 00:28:26,872 --> 00:28:28,165 Movies are now joining the safe-sex bandwagon. 713 00:28:28,207 --> 00:28:30,750 "Dragnet," with Tom Hanks, was one of the first. 714 00:28:30,792 --> 00:28:34,254 The message seemed to be, no condoms, no sex. 715 00:28:35,713 --> 00:28:39,635 AIDS patients breaking the law in a desperate battle 716 00:28:39,677 --> 00:28:41,345 to save their own lives. 717 00:28:41,387 --> 00:28:43,347 Jarriel: Across the country AIDS patients 718 00:28:43,389 --> 00:28:47,017 are now treating themselves with medications that seem hopeful. 719 00:28:47,059 --> 00:28:50,770 Burrington: Some drugs are available only from so-called guerilla clinics. 720 00:28:50,812 --> 00:28:53,607 Hill: Very important that people like us have something 721 00:28:53,649 --> 00:28:54,941 that we feel that we can do rather 722 00:28:54,983 --> 00:28:56,985 than just being told to, "Sit still, wait 723 00:28:57,027 --> 00:28:58,862 until we develop something that can help you, 724 00:28:58,904 --> 00:29:01,657 and of course, you may be dead by the time we get there." 725 00:29:01,699 --> 00:29:05,785 We were desperately trying to find drugs and test drugs 726 00:29:05,827 --> 00:29:07,287 that would be effective. 727 00:29:07,329 --> 00:29:10,624 Because it takes a while to develop a brand new drug, 728 00:29:10,666 --> 00:29:11,791 one of the first things 729 00:29:11,833 --> 00:29:13,960 you do when you find out what the virus is, 730 00:29:14,002 --> 00:29:17,089 is go screen drugs that are already developed. 731 00:29:17,130 --> 00:29:18,674 The people from Burroughs Wellcome 732 00:29:18,716 --> 00:29:20,008 screened a bunch of drugs, 733 00:29:20,050 --> 00:29:24,804 and found out that this drug AZT had activity against HIV. 734 00:29:24,846 --> 00:29:26,806 The drug is not a cure for AIDS, 735 00:29:26,848 --> 00:29:30,102 but tests indicate it may stop the AIDS virus from reproducing. 736 00:29:30,143 --> 00:29:32,438 Jarriel: It's the only government-approved AIDS drug 737 00:29:32,479 --> 00:29:33,731 in America. 738 00:29:33,772 --> 00:29:35,733 But even this most promising of drugs 739 00:29:35,774 --> 00:29:38,318 is a source of frustration and anger. 740 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,405 At $10,000-a-year costs per patient, 741 00:29:41,447 --> 00:29:43,823 it's prohibitively expensive for most, 742 00:29:43,865 --> 00:29:45,825 and not widely available. 743 00:29:45,867 --> 00:29:47,827 France: At the time it was more expensive 744 00:29:47,869 --> 00:29:51,081 than any other drug ever released in world history. 745 00:29:51,123 --> 00:29:52,666 Kent: The stock of Burroughs Wellcome, 746 00:29:52,708 --> 00:29:54,209 the British company which makes it, 747 00:29:54,251 --> 00:29:56,336 more than doubled its value. 748 00:29:56,378 --> 00:29:58,838 All: AZT, 8 bucks a pill. 749 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,841 Guess who's economy that's gonna kill? 750 00:30:01,883 --> 00:30:06,012 I found out that I have HIV, 751 00:30:06,054 --> 00:30:09,642 but I was still trying to keep my job on Wall Street. 752 00:30:09,683 --> 00:30:11,017 One day, I walk to work, 753 00:30:11,059 --> 00:30:13,853 and somebody hands me a flyer about AIDS. 754 00:30:13,895 --> 00:30:16,273 We're fighting for your lives, too! 755 00:30:16,315 --> 00:30:17,857 And everybody 756 00:30:17,899 --> 00:30:20,860 who was going into the office was being given the same flyer, 757 00:30:20,902 --> 00:30:23,029 so the discussion that happened on the trading floor 758 00:30:23,071 --> 00:30:25,699 in front of me became homophobic very quickly. 759 00:30:25,741 --> 00:30:28,744 My mentor said that, "These people, 760 00:30:28,786 --> 00:30:30,454 they all deserve to die," 761 00:30:30,496 --> 00:30:34,040 and I just burned with fury all day. 762 00:30:34,082 --> 00:30:35,793 When I got home that night, 763 00:30:35,834 --> 00:30:36,876 there was the demonstration 764 00:30:36,918 --> 00:30:38,878 on almost all the nightly news shows. 765 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,256 And I said, "Wow -- That's power. 766 00:30:41,298 --> 00:30:42,591 I have got to find 767 00:30:42,633 --> 00:30:45,051 who these people are who did this demonstration." 768 00:30:45,093 --> 00:30:47,471 Kramer: You saw 17 people get arrested. 769 00:30:47,513 --> 00:30:48,888 That is just the beginning. 770 00:30:48,930 --> 00:30:50,890 Next week it is going to be 50 getting arrested, 771 00:30:50,932 --> 00:30:53,893 and after that it's going to be 100 arrested. 772 00:30:53,935 --> 00:30:54,936 Wilson: ACT UP was started 773 00:30:54,978 --> 00:30:58,064 by Larry Kramer in New York City, 774 00:30:58,106 --> 00:31:00,567 and soon after, chapters 775 00:31:00,609 --> 00:31:03,320 began to spring up around the country. 776 00:31:03,362 --> 00:31:04,904 Bazell: The militant group ACT UP 777 00:31:04,946 --> 00:31:07,366 has gained increasing influence on AIDS policy. 778 00:31:07,407 --> 00:31:09,326 The weekly meetings of the New York chapter 779 00:31:09,368 --> 00:31:12,120 attract hundreds, mostly young, mostly gay. 780 00:31:12,162 --> 00:31:13,997 I realized that I only had a year 781 00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:15,999 or two more to live, probably, 782 00:31:16,041 --> 00:31:19,211 so why not go out with a bang? 783 00:31:19,252 --> 00:31:21,296 So I quit my job on Wall Street, 784 00:31:21,338 --> 00:31:23,507 and I became a full-time AIDS activist. 785 00:31:23,549 --> 00:31:25,925 Let's do a big demonstration there and keep it there. 786 00:31:25,967 --> 00:31:27,927 -Yeah! -Whoo! 787 00:31:27,969 --> 00:31:33,099 We had so many angry young men 788 00:31:33,141 --> 00:31:35,519 who had lost friends 789 00:31:35,561 --> 00:31:38,104 and were terrified they were going to die. 790 00:31:38,146 --> 00:31:41,358 Man: I'm pretty scared, 791 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,110 but being HIV positive, I don't have much choice in the matter. 792 00:31:44,152 --> 00:31:47,239 The fuse was ready to be lit 793 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,115 for us to explode. 794 00:31:49,157 --> 00:31:52,452 All: ACT UP, fight back, fight AIDS. 795 00:31:52,494 --> 00:31:53,953 Jarriel: The gay community, 796 00:31:53,995 --> 00:31:56,122 which has suffered the most from the disease, 797 00:31:56,164 --> 00:31:57,875 is exploding with rage. 798 00:31:57,916 --> 00:31:59,752 It really turned the tide 799 00:31:59,793 --> 00:32:03,963 from perceiving ourselves simply as victims, 800 00:32:04,005 --> 00:32:06,258 and helping us to understand 801 00:32:06,299 --> 00:32:09,636 that we had the power to change policy. 802 00:32:09,678 --> 00:32:11,597 Garrett: There is a warehouse near Washington 803 00:32:11,638 --> 00:32:13,557 filled with experimental drugs. 804 00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:16,017 Its location is secret to keep demonstrators 805 00:32:16,059 --> 00:32:17,977 and the desperate away. 806 00:32:18,019 --> 00:32:19,688 Only one drug in this warehouse 807 00:32:19,730 --> 00:32:20,980 has the full approval 808 00:32:21,022 --> 00:32:24,610 of the FDA for treatment of the AIDS virus, AZT. 809 00:32:24,651 --> 00:32:25,861 It was very toxic for me. 810 00:32:25,903 --> 00:32:27,195 I became anemic. 811 00:32:27,237 --> 00:32:30,783 Garrett: Peter Staley cannot tolerate large doses of AZT, 812 00:32:30,824 --> 00:32:32,492 so he's taking a variety of drugs, 813 00:32:32,534 --> 00:32:34,411 not all of them legal. 814 00:32:34,453 --> 00:32:35,662 The illegal drug here 815 00:32:35,704 --> 00:32:40,292 in the bag is Dextran Sulfate from Japan. 816 00:32:40,333 --> 00:32:42,001 I get this on the underground market 817 00:32:42,043 --> 00:32:43,712 for about $100 a month. 818 00:32:43,754 --> 00:32:46,005 All: AZT is not enough! 819 00:32:46,047 --> 00:32:47,883 Give us all the other stuff! 820 00:32:47,925 --> 00:32:50,218 Spencer: Ronald Reagan was hoisted in effigy this morning 821 00:32:50,260 --> 00:32:52,011 as hundreds of AIDS activists 822 00:32:52,053 --> 00:32:54,180 descended on the Food and Drug Administration, 823 00:32:54,222 --> 00:32:56,308 determined to shut it down. 824 00:32:56,349 --> 00:32:57,851 France: So many people in ACT UP 825 00:32:57,893 --> 00:33:00,938 came from the dramatic arts, they came from marketing. 826 00:33:00,979 --> 00:33:03,523 You know, they sold AIDS activism the way 827 00:33:03,565 --> 00:33:06,025 you would sell the newest Madonna album, 828 00:33:06,067 --> 00:33:07,193 and they knew how to do that 829 00:33:07,235 --> 00:33:10,029 because they sold the newest Madonna album. 830 00:33:10,071 --> 00:33:12,073 They knew how to make the drama 831 00:33:12,115 --> 00:33:13,450 that was necessary 832 00:33:13,492 --> 00:33:16,077 to promulgate it in the minds of America. 833 00:33:16,119 --> 00:33:19,038 Naftali: They figured out that the best way 834 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,709 to get the government to do the right thing 835 00:33:22,751 --> 00:33:25,838 was to become smarter than the government, 836 00:33:25,879 --> 00:33:27,923 to learn more about the drugs 837 00:33:27,965 --> 00:33:29,048 than the doctors 838 00:33:29,090 --> 00:33:31,635 who were advising the public health officials, 839 00:33:31,677 --> 00:33:34,220 and then to shame the federal government 840 00:33:34,262 --> 00:33:35,681 into doing the right thing. 841 00:33:35,722 --> 00:33:38,057 Bazell: ACT UP's strategy has been enormously successful 842 00:33:38,099 --> 00:33:40,059 in getting the Food and Drug administration 843 00:33:40,101 --> 00:33:43,062 to loosen the regulation of new drugs for AIDS. 844 00:33:43,104 --> 00:33:45,649 Now the activists are trying to force scientists 845 00:33:45,691 --> 00:33:48,902 to work faster to develop and test new treatments. 846 00:33:48,944 --> 00:33:50,236 In the past, scientists 847 00:33:50,278 --> 00:33:54,073 have strongly resisted such pressure. 848 00:33:54,115 --> 00:33:55,659 Brokaw: This was a major day of protest 849 00:33:55,701 --> 00:33:57,160 by AIDS activists in this country. 850 00:33:57,202 --> 00:33:59,913 1,000 of them converging on the National Institutes 851 00:33:59,955 --> 00:34:03,082 of Health demanding more research on the disease. 852 00:34:03,124 --> 00:34:05,293 Dr. Fauci: They started to become confrontative, 853 00:34:05,335 --> 00:34:07,504 you know, signs up, "Fauci, you're killing us." 854 00:34:07,546 --> 00:34:08,964 And I'm saying, "Why are they saying 'Fauci, 855 00:34:09,006 --> 00:34:10,256 you're killing us?' I'm a physician. 856 00:34:10,298 --> 00:34:12,091 I'm trying to save your lives." 857 00:34:12,133 --> 00:34:13,301 It was that kind 858 00:34:13,343 --> 00:34:15,178 of confrontation 859 00:34:15,220 --> 00:34:17,389 that had me say, "Time out." 860 00:34:17,430 --> 00:34:19,766 Norville: Demonstrators rocked police cars and tried to break in 861 00:34:19,808 --> 00:34:24,980 to the government's lead biomedical research agency. 862 00:34:25,022 --> 00:34:27,691 Dr. Fauci: The police were about to arrest the whole bunch of them, 863 00:34:27,733 --> 00:34:29,108 and I said, "Don't arrest anybody. 864 00:34:29,150 --> 00:34:33,321 Just bring them up to my office, and let's start a dialogue." 865 00:34:33,363 --> 00:34:38,117 We were able to prove to Dr. Fauci 866 00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:42,121 that everything they were doing was wrong. 867 00:34:42,163 --> 00:34:44,499 And Tony, to his credit, 868 00:34:44,541 --> 00:34:46,043 saw that we were right. 869 00:34:46,084 --> 00:34:48,127 Shilts: ACT UP does more than demonstrate. 870 00:34:48,169 --> 00:34:50,129 They've become part of the establishment 871 00:34:50,171 --> 00:34:51,840 they continue to attack. 872 00:34:51,882 --> 00:34:54,133 France: They changed the way new drugs are identified, 873 00:34:54,175 --> 00:34:55,343 the way drugs are researched, 874 00:34:55,385 --> 00:34:58,137 the way human trials are conducted. 875 00:34:58,179 --> 00:35:01,140 It was a really revolutionary change that they brought. 876 00:35:01,182 --> 00:35:07,981 Kramer: It is one the most successful grassroots organizations ever. 877 00:35:08,023 --> 00:35:10,149 It was also the greatest thing 878 00:35:10,191 --> 00:35:13,152 that the gay population ever achieved, 879 00:35:13,194 --> 00:35:16,114 finding our own medicine. 880 00:35:19,117 --> 00:35:21,160 All: We are everywhere! 881 00:35:21,202 --> 00:35:23,329 Jarriel: 200,000 gay rights activists, 882 00:35:23,371 --> 00:35:26,165 including busses filled with victims of AIDS, 883 00:35:26,207 --> 00:35:27,793 brought their campaign for equal rights 884 00:35:27,834 --> 00:35:29,419 to the nation's capital today. 885 00:35:29,461 --> 00:35:31,964 Apuzzo: How many must die 886 00:35:32,005 --> 00:35:35,592 for this administration to wake up? 887 00:35:35,634 --> 00:35:38,011 This huge march on Washington that happened, 888 00:35:38,053 --> 00:35:40,263 ACT UP went there in force. 889 00:35:40,305 --> 00:35:42,265 We had a huge impact in the march, 890 00:35:42,307 --> 00:35:45,351 but then we were hearing about this project, 891 00:35:45,393 --> 00:35:47,186 this quilt project. 892 00:35:47,228 --> 00:35:48,271 Matson: This huge quilt that today 893 00:35:48,313 --> 00:35:49,982 is being spread out on the Capitol Mall 894 00:35:50,023 --> 00:35:52,358 in Washington has 2,000 panels, 895 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,111 every one crafted by the friends 896 00:35:54,152 --> 00:35:56,404 and relatives of an AIDS victim. 897 00:35:56,446 --> 00:36:00,199 This memorial is the brainchild of San Franciscan Cleve Jones. 898 00:36:00,241 --> 00:36:02,911 We want to show the President and the Congress 899 00:36:02,953 --> 00:36:06,205 and the rest of the country the enormity of this epidemic. 900 00:36:06,247 --> 00:36:08,207 Why do you think when you say the word "quilt?" 901 00:36:08,249 --> 00:36:09,292 I think of my grandma. 902 00:36:09,334 --> 00:36:12,004 I saw it as a very middle-American, 903 00:36:12,045 --> 00:36:15,007 traditional family-value symbol 904 00:36:15,048 --> 00:36:16,215 that could tap 905 00:36:16,257 --> 00:36:19,886 into all that is good about the American people 906 00:36:19,928 --> 00:36:23,890 and create a place to grieve together. 907 00:36:23,932 --> 00:36:25,058 Staley: To an ACT UP'er, 908 00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:27,060 it sounded like this touchy 909 00:36:27,102 --> 00:36:29,896 feel-good... 910 00:36:29,938 --> 00:36:31,648 bullshit. 911 00:36:31,690 --> 00:36:37,029 But when each of us walked onto that mall 912 00:36:37,070 --> 00:36:40,699 and this unfolding started, 913 00:36:40,740 --> 00:36:42,408 it was overwhelming. 914 00:36:42,450 --> 00:36:46,245 Man: Bruce Harris. 915 00:36:46,287 --> 00:36:47,831 David Hicks. 916 00:36:47,873 --> 00:36:52,044 France: The quilt was really a tremendous response to a need 917 00:36:52,085 --> 00:36:53,419 that we didn't realize that we had, 918 00:36:53,461 --> 00:36:55,421 which was some central place, 919 00:36:55,463 --> 00:36:56,756 some graveyard 920 00:36:56,798 --> 00:37:00,259 that brought those that we lost together. 921 00:37:00,301 --> 00:37:02,512 Peterson: I'm tired of going to funerals. 922 00:37:02,554 --> 00:37:06,265 [ Voice breaking ] I can't -- 923 00:37:06,307 --> 00:37:07,851 I can't keep doing it, 924 00:37:07,893 --> 00:37:11,270 so this is for everybody. 925 00:37:11,312 --> 00:37:13,148 This is all of us. 926 00:37:13,190 --> 00:37:15,441 I don't think anybody knew, maybe not even Cleve, 927 00:37:15,483 --> 00:37:17,986 how powerful it was going to be. 928 00:37:18,028 --> 00:37:20,321 Woman: Dr. Ron Schwartz. 929 00:37:20,363 --> 00:37:21,907 John Mallhurn. 930 00:37:21,948 --> 00:37:23,324 Jones: The message said all of these people 931 00:37:23,366 --> 00:37:25,284 who are gone are missed. 932 00:37:25,326 --> 00:37:28,080 They had families, they had friends, 933 00:37:28,121 --> 00:37:30,165 they had lovers, they had children. 934 00:37:30,207 --> 00:37:32,291 These were not people you can just pretend 935 00:37:32,333 --> 00:37:33,668 didn't exist anymore. 936 00:37:33,710 --> 00:37:35,879 They're part of your community. 937 00:37:35,921 --> 00:37:40,008 And it revealed the true enormity of the pandemic 938 00:37:40,050 --> 00:37:42,594 by showing the individual lives 939 00:37:42,635 --> 00:37:44,554 that had been taken from us. 940 00:37:44,596 --> 00:37:46,806 You've been taking AZT, 941 00:37:46,848 --> 00:37:49,101 and apparently it has been helping you. 942 00:37:49,142 --> 00:37:50,894 At one point they were giving you three to six months, 943 00:37:50,936 --> 00:37:52,478 and that was three years ago. 944 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,147 What's the prognosis now? 945 00:37:54,189 --> 00:37:56,191 Well, it's been three years, 946 00:37:56,233 --> 00:37:57,692 and I'm still going strong, 947 00:37:57,734 --> 00:38:01,738 so hopefully I can be around long enough for a cure. 948 00:38:01,780 --> 00:38:03,489 You're real brave about this whole thing. 949 00:38:03,531 --> 00:38:07,326 Do you ever really go off to yourself and cry 950 00:38:07,368 --> 00:38:09,037 or feel really upset? 951 00:38:09,079 --> 00:38:11,790 Not really. I figure, you know, 952 00:38:11,831 --> 00:38:14,500 since this is the way the hand was dealt, 953 00:38:14,542 --> 00:38:15,710 I got to live this way, 954 00:38:15,752 --> 00:38:18,337 and I'm gonna try and help anybody I can. 955 00:38:18,379 --> 00:38:23,009 The last thing Ryan wanted to be was the boy with AIDS. 956 00:38:23,051 --> 00:38:24,844 But he became very famous, 957 00:38:24,886 --> 00:38:26,930 and he picked up the banner 958 00:38:26,972 --> 00:38:30,349 and championed the rights of people afflicted, 959 00:38:30,391 --> 00:38:32,602 and he carried it off very bravely. 960 00:38:32,644 --> 00:38:35,063 [ Coughs ] 961 00:38:35,105 --> 00:38:36,940 White-Ginder: [ Voice breaking ] Ryan said, "Maybe it happened to us 962 00:38:36,982 --> 00:38:39,400 so it wouldn't happen to somebody else." 963 00:38:39,442 --> 00:38:42,737 And -- And I think that's probably true. 964 00:38:42,779 --> 00:38:44,614 The flags over the Indiana State House 965 00:38:44,656 --> 00:38:46,532 have been ordered flown at half-staff today 966 00:38:46,574 --> 00:38:50,787 in tribute to 18-year-old Ryan White. 967 00:38:50,829 --> 00:38:54,291 Donahue: I'll never forget him, and I'm proud to have known him. 968 00:38:57,002 --> 00:39:02,548 For the short life, he left a huge footprint. 969 00:39:02,590 --> 00:39:04,383 In Washington early today, 970 00:39:04,425 --> 00:39:06,594 the House of Representatives approved a bill 971 00:39:06,636 --> 00:39:10,182 authorizing more than $4 billion over five years. 972 00:39:10,223 --> 00:39:12,391 That's nearly $900 million a year 973 00:39:12,433 --> 00:39:15,187 for communities hardest hit by the AIDS epidemic. 974 00:39:15,228 --> 00:39:17,022 Man: The bill was named for Ryan White, 975 00:39:17,063 --> 00:39:20,233 the Indiana teenager who died of AIDS this year. 976 00:39:20,275 --> 00:39:22,277 This legislation converts the millions 977 00:39:22,319 --> 00:39:24,403 of dollars of federal research 978 00:39:24,445 --> 00:39:27,657 into treatments that are available to the public. 979 00:39:27,699 --> 00:39:31,703 Waxman: The Ryan White Act is the law on the books today 980 00:39:31,744 --> 00:39:33,621 that is our essential answer 981 00:39:33,663 --> 00:39:35,456 to dealing with the AIDS epidemic. 982 00:39:35,498 --> 00:39:38,835 It's the lifeline for people getting the drugs. 983 00:39:38,877 --> 00:39:41,921 Naftali: For Americans who still were too prejudiced, 984 00:39:41,963 --> 00:39:46,218 too homophobic to confront AIDS 985 00:39:46,259 --> 00:39:48,136 as a national crisis, 986 00:39:48,178 --> 00:39:50,013 Ryan White gave them an avenue 987 00:39:50,055 --> 00:39:52,140 to do the right thing for AIDS research. 988 00:39:52,182 --> 00:39:55,227 That boy did not die in vain. 989 00:39:55,268 --> 00:39:57,062 This is the first time Congress has voted 990 00:39:57,103 --> 00:40:00,439 such a huge sum of money to fight a single disease. 991 00:40:00,481 --> 00:40:02,692 Healthcare providers say it proves finally 992 00:40:02,734 --> 00:40:05,820 that AIDS in America is a federal disaster. 993 00:40:05,862 --> 00:40:08,489 Dr. Fauci: When the decade of the '80s ended, 994 00:40:08,531 --> 00:40:09,824 we did not see 995 00:40:09,866 --> 00:40:12,451 and could not see the light at the end of the tunnel 996 00:40:12,493 --> 00:40:14,871 because we still did not have an effective 997 00:40:14,913 --> 00:40:16,455 therapeutic regimen. 998 00:40:16,497 --> 00:40:20,168 Doctors say for every AIDS patient treated in the 1980s, 999 00:40:20,210 --> 00:40:23,129 there will be eight more treated in the 1990s. 1000 00:40:23,171 --> 00:40:26,341 It was the worse epidemic in human history by the numbers, 1001 00:40:26,383 --> 00:40:30,095 but even more so by the emotional content. 1002 00:40:30,136 --> 00:40:31,470 Jones: By the end of the decade, 1003 00:40:31,512 --> 00:40:34,391 I could hardly walk down Castro Street without weeping. 1004 00:40:34,432 --> 00:40:35,850 So many people were gone by then, 1005 00:40:35,892 --> 00:40:41,522 and you would even see people really dying in front of you. 1006 00:40:41,564 --> 00:40:44,692 I knew that we would have to keep fighting to stay alive. 1007 00:40:47,528 --> 00:40:51,490 Man: This has been the AIDS decade. 1008 00:40:51,532 --> 00:40:53,326 Man #2: Fighting for our lives, 1009 00:40:53,368 --> 00:40:56,788 too little is being done too late. 1010 00:40:56,829 --> 00:41:00,666 Man: At the beginning of the decade, the first diagnosis of AIDS. 1011 00:41:00,708 --> 00:41:02,668 At the end, there is concern 1012 00:41:02,710 --> 00:41:05,797 that maybe the nation is complacent again. 1013 00:41:05,838 --> 00:41:07,006 More than a million people 1014 00:41:07,048 --> 00:41:09,675 infected with the virus in America alone, 1015 00:41:09,717 --> 00:41:11,552 five million in the world. 1016 00:41:11,594 --> 00:41:16,099 Perhaps there'll be a cure or a vaccine in the next decade, 1017 00:41:16,141 --> 00:41:18,268 or maybe in the next 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