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We'll be doing for TV
what FM did for radio.
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Man: There are some
that have accused your videos
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as being soft porn.
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We like to call them
tastefully smutty.
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A group that's never had
any problems
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saying how they feel, U2!
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-What are your dreams?
-To rule the world.
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[ Music plays ]
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Michael Jackson
is the man of the '80s.
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Man: Music that is all beat
and talk.
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It's rap music.
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♪ My life is over, so I might as
well speak my mind ♪
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Pauley: Heavy metal, it
glorifies sex and violence.
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It hates authority,
and adolescent boys love it.
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Swaggart: This weird,
beastly presentation
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that was birthed
in the pit of hell.
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Move it back.
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Officer: John Lennon as he was
entering his premise
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was shot by an unknown
at this time white male.
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Miller: The world has reacted
with immense shock and grief
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to the first rock and roll
assassination.
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It was like in one moment
the '60s and '70s got murdered.
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Man: In his life, has given more
love than most men and women
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on the face of this Earth.
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We're here to prove love is not
dead, even though John is.
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Graham: You know,
you start the decade
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with the death of a Beatle.
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You don't really know
where you're going to go
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from that point, culturally
or musically.
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Announcer:
For a while it seemed there was
nothing new on the horizon.
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Announcing the latest
achievement
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in home entertainment.
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The power of sight -- video.
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The power of sound -- stereo.
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MTV, Music Television.
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[ Rock music plays ]
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We are so excited about
this new concept in TV.
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We'll be doing for TV
what FM did for radio.
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[ Music plays ]
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Quinn: At the time the world
was saying,
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we don't think anybody is going
to watch videos over and over,
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but we knew we had
something special.
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♪ Ooh, my little pretty one ♪
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♪ My pretty one ♪
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♪ When you gonna give me
some time, Sharona? ♪
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Brown: MTV made you feel like
those artists were in the room.
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You had a personal concert
all day.
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♪ Crack that whip ♪
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Kasem: When you have
the rotation of, say,
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100 different videos
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being rotated over and over
on MTV,
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they do a great job of
exposing new acts.
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♪ Here in my car
where the image breaks down ♪
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♪ Will you visit me, please ♪
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♪ If I open my door
in cars? ♪
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Majewski: Britain was ahead
of the curve.
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They had a ton of videos
in their inventory.
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And that was what paved the way
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for this accidental
second British invasion.
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Jennings: If you look at some of
the groups on popular charts
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in America today,
you can't help asking,
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where on Earth
did they come from?
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Well, the answer is the same
today as it was two decades ago.
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They come from Britain.
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The music isn't anything like
the famous group
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that came from there,
the Beatles.
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You got to understand
they were 20 years ago.
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We're a new generation,
a new wave.
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♪ You were working as a waitress
in a cocktail bar ♪
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♪ When I met you ♪
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Connelly:
By the early 1980s,
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New Wave is used to describe
sleek, dressy
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cool bands that are coming out
of England.
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♪ Don't you want me, baby ♪
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♪ Don't you want me, oh ♪
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Graham: British artists
all understood
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how to use visuals in a way
that American artists
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didn't necessarily get
that quickly.
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♪ Do you really want
to hurt me? ♪
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♪ Do you really want to
make me cry? ♪
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Boy George:
♪ "Do You Really Want to Hurt
Me?" is a good song.
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It's a song that old people like
and young people like.
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So I think the proof
is in the pudding.
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Buy it and eat it.
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♪♪
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Majewski: MTV actually met with
Duran Duran's managers
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and said, "We're looking for
kind of like James Bond videos,
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on location,"
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and their managers are the ones
that went to the band members
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and said, "Look,
we really need to up the ante
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with these clips.
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We need to give this channel
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something they've never
seen before."
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♪ Moving on the floor now,
babe ♪
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♪ You're a bird of paradise ♪
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Man: There are some that have
accused your videos
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of being soft porn.
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Well, excuuuuse me!
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[ Laughter ]
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We like to call them
tastefully smutty.
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♪ Her name is Rio and she dances
on the sand ♪
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♪ Just like that river twisting
through the dusty land ♪
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♪ And when she... ♪
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Rodgers:
When I first met Duran Duran,
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they were saying
that they thought
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they looked like rock stars,
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so why not become rock stars?
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[ Cheering ]
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♪ Don't stand,
don't stand so ♪
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♪ Don't stand so close to me ♪
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Man: Why do you think we're
so popular over there?
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Sting: I think there's
a tradition that goes back
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over the past 20 years
from the days of the Beatles
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and Rolling Stones
where British bands
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seem to be better at it
than Americans.
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Glenn: The Police have sold
4 million albums in one year.
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Rolling Stone chose them as
the best new band of the year,
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taking note of the swirling,
dreamy, soaring quality
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of the sound.
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♪ Giant steps are what
you take ♪
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♪ Walking on the moon ♪
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Melvoin:
It was incredible to see them,
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and I couldn't believe
what I was hearing --
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out of three people.
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I was shocked.
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Man: I once read
that you were called
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the Pink Floyd of the '80s.
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What do you think of that?
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We're not at all.
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We're The Cure
of the '80s.
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♪ And I know I was wrong
when I said it was true ♪
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♪ That it couldn't be me and be
her in between without you ♪
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Majewski:
The holy trinity of alternative
British music is The Cure,
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Depeche Mode, and the Smiths.
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All three of them started out
as these fringe bands
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that by the end of the '80s
were selling out stadiums.
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♪ ...give it to me ♪
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♪ Will you take the pain ♪
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♪ I will give to you ♪
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♪ Again and again ♪
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♪ And will you return it? ♪
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[ Cheers and applause ]
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What's New Order, computer
programmers or musicians?
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I'd say neither, actually.
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What are you, then?
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Eh, bank robbers.
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♪ How does it feel ♪
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♪ To treat me like you do ♪
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♪ When you've... ♪
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Majewski: In the U.K.,
disco did not suck.
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It never sucked.
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And bands like New Order
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combined it with the new
synthesizer sound,
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and they gave us
these incredible songs
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that got us out
on the dance floor.
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♪ I still find it so hard ♪
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♪ To say what I need to say ♪
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I like what's happening
in dance places now
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over the last year or two.
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I think the music is becoming
very healthy.
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It has done wonders for
the sagging record industry.
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It has made overnight stars
out of rock groups
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whose records had been
gathering dust.
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This year the first since 1978
business is finally up.
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And the reason is music videos.
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♪♪
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We had no idea that music videos
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would have that much of an
impact on the musical culture.
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It changed the entire dynamic
of what you had to do
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as far as promotion
was concerned.
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You had to be a performance
artist as well as a musician.
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♪ Fox the fox ♪
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♪ Rat the rat ♪
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Man: The intelligent ones
recognize that it's a marriage
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between the visual artist
and the musician at this point.
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♪ Monkey ♪
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♪ Don't you're going
to shock the monkey ♪
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Hays: The man or the woman who
finds the right combination
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will take it all.
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♪ Let's dance ♪
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♪ Put on your red shoes
and dance the blues ♪
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Rodgers:
When David and I decided
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that we were going
to work together,
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it was pretty clear to me
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that David wanted to make
a commercial album, you know.
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"Now I'm going to go make
a pop record,"
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but it was going to be
his version of pop.
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Bowie: My songs always tend
to be impressionistic
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or even have a surreal quality
to them,
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and on this album
is the first time
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that I really tried to adapt to
a didactic kind of approach
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to some writing.
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♪ If you should fall ♪
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♪ Into my arms ♪
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♪ Tremble like a flower ♪
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Spheeris:
Artists in the '80s, and
David Bowie, for that matter,
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realized if you want to make it,
you got to be on MTV.
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Man: But there's one group
that's not happy with MTV.
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Many black artists
who have been told
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their music doesn't fit
the format.
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James:
That's what's happening.
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We are being sat in the back
of the bus television style.
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And if Pittman gets away
with this,
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then there are others cable
shows that are going to try it.
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Pittman:
MTV doesn't exclude black acts.
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What MTV does exclude is music
that's not rock and roll.
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MTV came out with no
consideration
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on how to infuse
black music into their mix.
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I am just floored by the fact
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that there are so few
black artists featured on it.
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Why is that?
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We have to try and do
what we think
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not only New York and
Los Angeles will appreciate
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but some town
in the Midwest
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that would be scared to death
by Prince
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or a string of other
black faces.
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Interesting. Okay.
Thank you very much.
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When are we going to see anybody
of color on MTV,
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because you said
"music television."
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When are you going to start
covering all genres of music?
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Whoo!
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Music has no color.
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And it shouldn't have color.
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And I don't believe in that.
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What I do, I don't want it
labeled black or white.
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I want it labeled it's music.
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[ Cheers and applause ]
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♪♪
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1983, Motown
has this big TV special,
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Motown's 25th anniversary.
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At that time "Thriller" is out
and "Thriller" is doing well.
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But Michael Jackson couldn't get
"Billie Jean" on MTV.
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♪ She was more like
a beauty queen ♪
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♪ From a movie scene ♪
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Lover: When the rest of
the world was going crazy
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and he can't get on MTV --
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Michael Jackson -- come on!
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♪♪
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[ Crowd screaming ]
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Graham: When he does
that moonwalk,
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if you were sitting
on the couch,
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by the end of it you were
on the floor in front of the TV.
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You couldn't believe
what you were seeing.
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Questlove: I would say that
the moonwalk was really
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one of the first viral moments
that affected rock history.
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The next week "Thriller" started
selling a million copies a week.
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I like Michael Jackson
because he can sing good,
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he's bad and he knows how
to dance.
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He's so sexy and so gorgeous.
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He's exciting!
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Michael Jackson is the man
of the '80s.
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Graham: MTV starts to get
pressure from CBS records,
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which was
Michael Jackson's label.
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Rock and roll in itself
really was the thing
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that broke a lot
of rules.
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And when you're
very successful,
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you try to make your own
rules occasionally.
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Graham:
As the story goes,
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CBS essentially said, "We will
pull every other artist
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we have on MTV
if you don't play this."
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They had to be essentially
blackmailed into doing it.
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♪ It doesn't matter who's wrong
or right ♪
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♪ Just beat it ♪
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He was the artist
that MTV really needed.
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They didn't know
they needed him,
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but boy, when we started to see
the Michael Jackson videos,
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it was just unbelievable.
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♪ And no one's going to... ♪
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Questlove: Then there's
the domino effect.
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Suddenly you see Prince videos
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from Warner Brothers
do the same thing.
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♪ So tonight I'm going to party
like it's 1999 ♪
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Pauley: Prince wasn't just
materializing out of nowhere.
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Where was he
before this video was done?
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Prince was a huge star
on black radio stations.
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People -- he had a real
underground cult following,
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and he was a very sexy,
hot performer.
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♪ The sweat of your body
covers me ♪
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♪ Can you, my darling,
can you picture ♪
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Melvoin: Prince loved the idea
that he was taking
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his punk funk music
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and turning it on
to a white audience,
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and that wouldn't have happened
if not for MTV.
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♪ This is what it sounds like
when the doves cry ♪
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When I was younger,
I always said that one day
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I was going to play all kinds
of music
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and not be judged
for the color of my skin
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but the quality of my work.
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♪ I only want to see you ♪
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♪ Only going to see you ♪
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♪ In the purple rain ♪
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Wilson:
Prince had a great androgyny.
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He blurred the gender line.
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He sings, he writes, he plays.
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Every time I see him,
it's just like, oh, really?
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Okay, I quit!
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[ Guitar solo ]
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Hoffs: When he plays guitar,
it's just part of his body
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in a way that
I've never really seen before.
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And it's not contrived,
it's just --
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it's just happening.
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Majewski: What was his music?
Was it R&B?
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You know, his music was just
straight down the middle,
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Mainstream, grab you by
the throat, and balls, pop.
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♪ We go down to the river ♪
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♪ And into the river we dive ♪
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At this point a lot of it
is about being there,
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which is why we haven't done
too much of the video thing.
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A lot of it is --
it allows too much distance,
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like what our band is about is
about breaking down distance.
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Connelly: Bruce was all
about credibility
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and intelligence and integrity.
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So how would he translate
his music and his attitude
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toward the world
to what seemed like
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this frivolous world
of the music video?
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Bruce is not going to be next to
a winking model on a sailboat.
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♪ Can't start a fire ♪
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♪ You can't start a fire
without a spark ♪
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♪ This gun's for hire ♪
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He ends up doing, essentially,
a concert video
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starring a then unknown
Courteney Cox.
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It's like this weird re-creation
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of something that
organically happens
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at a Bruce Springsteen concert.
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♪ Born in the USA ♪
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If there was an artist
in the '80s
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who transcended the music
video, he's the guy.
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He is the one guy
that didn't actually
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need to do great music videos
to still be a great artist.
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He's Bruce Springsteen.
It was great music.
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♪ Born in the USA ♪
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David Bowie, Mick Jagger,
Billy Joel, Rod Stewart --
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all famous, all rich,
and all men.
334
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Rock and roll has been
pretty much dominated by men
335
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until the last few years.
336
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♪ You're a heartbreaker ♪
337
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Fox:
Pat Benatar is hot, very hot.
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Three albums in the past
three years,
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all million sellers,
340
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and the latest album hit the top
of the charts in just one month.
341
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Her style is defiant, raucous,
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tough, and very sexy.
343
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♪ We are young ♪
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♪ Heartache to heartache
we stand ♪
345
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♪ No promises, no demands ♪
346
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It appears to me that the one
on stage
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is what I would picture
a modern woman to be.
348
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Someone who is aggressive
and soft at the same time,
349
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has a lot of strength
and conviction,
350
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and can look good
and still have brains.
351
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Wild: You would think in the era
of music becoming a visual form
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more than ever that it would all
be about objectification,
353
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but there were a lot of strong
women on that video screen.
354
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♪♪
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Man: Meet the darlings of L.A.'s
new music scene, the Go-Go's.
356
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♪ See the people
walking down the street ♪
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Unlike earlier girl groups
such as the Ronnettes
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or the Supremes,
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the Go-Go's write
their own songs
360
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and play their own
instruments.
361
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♪ They got the beat ♪
362
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♪ They got the beat,
they got the beat ♪
363
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♪ Yeah, they got the beat ♪
364
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Majewski: That was as punk rock
as it got for me.
365
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To see girls up there,
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you know, not just
singing backup
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or not just standing in some
cool outfit in front of a band,
368
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like they were the band.
369
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♪ Doesn't matter what they say ♪
370
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♪ And the jealous games
people play ♪
371
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♪ Hey, hey, hey ♪
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Gumbel: While the Go-Go's have
always managed
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to look like they're having fun,
they are to be taken seriously.
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They're the first female group
ever to have a number one album,
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and they are at the top of
the list of female rock stars
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whose impact within the industry
is stronger than ever.
377
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♪ The phone rings
in the middle of the night ♪
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♪ My father yells, what you
gonna do with your life? ♪
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Hoffs: I thought her voice
was extraordinary,
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and Cyndi was a very good
visual content creator.
381
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I mean, those videos were
so colorful and fun.
382
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This being March 31st,
it's also a Monday.
383
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Some of you might consider it
a manic Monday.
384
00:17:55,157 --> 00:17:56,910
You would be interested
in knowing
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there's a hit song
of the same name.
386
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We are joined by the architects
of that song.
387
00:18:01,163 --> 00:18:02,289
They are The Bangles.
388
00:18:02,331 --> 00:18:03,917
You guys are very hot, yes?
389
00:18:03,958 --> 00:18:05,292
[ Sighs ]
[ Chuckles ]
390
00:18:05,334 --> 00:18:10,715
♪ 6:00 already, I was just
in the middle of a dream ♪
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Majewski:
When The Bangles came out,
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everyone was like,
"Oh! It's another Go-Go's."
393
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The Bangles were like, "Unh-unh.
394
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We're not the new Go-Go's,
we're the new Beatles."
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♪ But I can't be late 'cause
I guess I'll just... ♪
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Gumbel: Lot of people call that
a '60s sound.
397
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Do you think so?
398
00:18:26,814 --> 00:18:28,148
That's our main influence.
399
00:18:28,190 --> 00:18:30,026
We don't go in
and consciously say,
400
00:18:30,068 --> 00:18:32,152
"Let's make this
a Buffalo Springfield song."
401
00:18:32,194 --> 00:18:34,864
That seems to be the way
the songs end up sounding.
402
00:18:34,906 --> 00:18:38,076
♪ Just another manic Monday ♪
403
00:18:38,117 --> 00:18:39,326
♪ Oh oh oh ♪
404
00:18:39,368 --> 00:18:41,746
♪ I wish it was Sunday ♪
405
00:18:41,788 --> 00:18:43,163
♪ Oh oh oh ♪
406
00:18:43,205 --> 00:18:45,833
There's always a certain
amount of people
407
00:18:45,875 --> 00:18:48,795
who will never take women
as a group seriously.
408
00:18:48,836 --> 00:18:51,213
Man: I mean, it's run by
a very chauvinistic,
409
00:18:51,255 --> 00:18:53,173
I'd imagine, recording industry.
410
00:18:53,215 --> 00:18:55,175
Hoffs:
We concentrated on the music.
411
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We don't really worry
about those things.
412
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We just keep writing songs.
413
00:18:59,847 --> 00:19:02,182
I think that there was
a little bit of an attitude
414
00:19:02,224 --> 00:19:03,768
like, "They're okay for chicks.
415
00:19:03,810 --> 00:19:07,063
They can play okay for girls."
416
00:19:07,105 --> 00:19:10,357
We didn't understand why
our gender mattered
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00:19:10,399 --> 00:19:12,693
or why it defined us.
418
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People magazine this week says
it will take an act of Congress
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00:19:15,905 --> 00:19:18,198
to keep this woman
from becoming a mega star.
420
00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:19,366
Whitney Houston.
421
00:19:19,408 --> 00:19:23,121
♪ How will I know
if he really loves me? ♪
422
00:19:23,162 --> 00:19:26,666
♪ I say a prayer with
every heartbeat ♪
423
00:19:26,707 --> 00:19:28,626
Whether she was doing
a dance song
424
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or she was doing a ballad...
425
00:19:30,252 --> 00:19:37,468
♪ The greatest love of all ♪
426
00:19:37,510 --> 00:19:39,261
...it kind of stopped you
in your tracks
427
00:19:39,303 --> 00:19:40,888
because you just
couldn't believe
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00:19:40,930 --> 00:19:43,057
that one woman could be blessed
with that much,
429
00:19:43,099 --> 00:19:44,266
with the looks and the talent.
430
00:19:44,308 --> 00:19:48,104
This lady started out as
a dancer, went to New York,
431
00:19:48,146 --> 00:19:50,272
went to Paris,
worked with bands,
432
00:19:50,314 --> 00:19:52,859
came back as a single,
and is she hot.
433
00:19:52,900 --> 00:19:55,153
This is Madonna!
434
00:19:55,194 --> 00:19:57,237
♪♪
435
00:19:57,279 --> 00:19:58,906
George:
If you saw Madonna then,
436
00:19:58,948 --> 00:20:00,240
she looked just like the girls
437
00:20:00,282 --> 00:20:02,284
who hung out at a club called
The Fun House.
438
00:20:02,326 --> 00:20:05,038
All the girls there
had the mesh thing,
439
00:20:05,079 --> 00:20:06,413
and they had the boots,
440
00:20:06,455 --> 00:20:09,500
and it was kind of a mix
of new wave punk
441
00:20:09,542 --> 00:20:11,418
with this other dance
sensibility.
442
00:20:11,460 --> 00:20:13,004
♪ Holiday ♪
443
00:20:15,297 --> 00:20:17,717
♪ Celebrate ♪
444
00:20:17,758 --> 00:20:21,512
I think Madonna was able to use
that core of dance music
445
00:20:21,554 --> 00:20:23,931
and use the style of the streets
that were going on
446
00:20:23,973 --> 00:20:26,976
and evolve that
into a pop career.
447
00:20:27,018 --> 00:20:28,728
We are a couple weeks
into the new year.
448
00:20:28,769 --> 00:20:30,855
What do you hope will happen
not only in 1984
449
00:20:30,897 --> 00:20:32,857
but for the rest
of your professional life,
450
00:20:32,899 --> 00:20:34,441
what are your dreams,
what's left?
451
00:20:34,483 --> 00:20:36,443
To rule the world.
452
00:20:36,485 --> 00:20:38,445
♪ Star light, star bright ♪
453
00:20:38,487 --> 00:20:40,280
♪ First star I see tonight ♪
454
00:20:40,322 --> 00:20:41,949
♪ Star light ♪
455
00:20:41,991 --> 00:20:42,992
♪ Star bright ♪
456
00:20:43,034 --> 00:20:44,535
♪ Make everything all right ♪
457
00:20:44,577 --> 00:20:45,786
♪ Star light ♪
458
00:20:45,828 --> 00:20:47,580
Peresman: All of a sudden
there was girls around
459
00:20:47,621 --> 00:20:49,373
that had the gloves
with the fingers cut out,
460
00:20:49,415 --> 00:20:52,292
and the hair wrapped up in
a net, wearing short skirts.
461
00:20:52,334 --> 00:20:54,294
There was like hundreds of
thousands of Jewish girls
462
00:20:54,336 --> 00:20:56,756
around the country wearing
crucifixes because of Madonna.
463
00:20:56,797 --> 00:20:58,549
Woman:
What do you like about her?
464
00:20:58,591 --> 00:21:02,511
I like the way
she thinks about acting free.
465
00:21:02,553 --> 00:21:04,972
She acts like
a different attitude
466
00:21:05,014 --> 00:21:06,306
that no one else has.
467
00:21:06,348 --> 00:21:08,601
She dresses how she wants,
acts how she wants,
468
00:21:08,642 --> 00:21:11,311
sings how she wants,
she does what she wants.
469
00:21:11,353 --> 00:21:16,567
I think her appeal is that she
is feminine, she is herself,
470
00:21:16,609 --> 00:21:19,153
she is sexual, but she's strong!
471
00:21:19,195 --> 00:21:21,321
She's an individual woman.
472
00:21:21,363 --> 00:21:24,408
Rodgers: Madonna understood
the MTV phenomenon.
473
00:21:24,450 --> 00:21:28,162
She understood the vibe
and the look and the sound.
474
00:21:28,204 --> 00:21:30,039
It all came together with her.
475
00:21:30,081 --> 00:21:31,916
Everyone underestimates you.
476
00:21:31,958 --> 00:21:34,376
You keep giving them
little surprises.
477
00:21:34,418 --> 00:21:36,129
If they get you all
in one glance,
478
00:21:36,170 --> 00:21:38,714
then what's going to
make them look again?
479
00:21:38,756 --> 00:21:42,342
♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh,
like a virgin ♪
480
00:21:42,384 --> 00:21:45,930
♪ Feels so good inside ♪
481
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Peresman: When Madonna sang
"Like a Virgin"
482
00:21:47,681 --> 00:21:49,349
and started rolling around
on the ground,
483
00:21:49,391 --> 00:21:52,436
people thought it was a career-
ending moment for her.
484
00:21:52,478 --> 00:21:56,149
♪ Oh oh oh oh oh ♪
485
00:21:56,190 --> 00:22:01,445
In this wedding dress,
rolling around on the floor.
486
00:22:01,487 --> 00:22:03,405
It kind of stopped everybody
in their tracks,
487
00:22:03,447 --> 00:22:05,199
and was thinking,
what is she doing,
488
00:22:05,241 --> 00:22:06,366
and why is she doing it?
489
00:22:06,408 --> 00:22:07,451
But literally by
the next morning,
490
00:22:07,493 --> 00:22:08,828
she's the biggest star
in the world.
491
00:22:08,869 --> 00:22:11,747
Melvoin:
Madonna had no doubt.
492
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She was like,
"This is happening.
493
00:22:14,667 --> 00:22:16,418
Get out of the way."
494
00:22:16,460 --> 00:22:18,337
[ Indistinct shouting ]
495
00:22:20,298 --> 00:22:22,591
♪ You've been hiding ♪
496
00:22:22,633 --> 00:22:26,762
In the '80s,
the videos were so expensive
497
00:22:26,804 --> 00:22:30,390
and so complicated,
and you had to wear things
498
00:22:30,432 --> 00:22:32,476
that you would never dream
of wearing before.
499
00:22:32,518 --> 00:22:35,479
At first it was a lot of fun
to really get dressed up
500
00:22:35,521 --> 00:22:37,064
and pull in that corset,
501
00:22:37,106 --> 00:22:40,860
just wear tons of makeup
and great big huge hair.
502
00:22:40,901 --> 00:22:44,613
You had to have that "sexy"
kind of thing, you know?
503
00:22:44,655 --> 00:22:47,074
I'm coming out of a gold mold.
504
00:22:47,116 --> 00:22:49,576
Ann has a welding iron,
505
00:22:49,618 --> 00:22:53,331
and she's this Amazon
welder woman or something.
506
00:22:53,371 --> 00:22:56,625
Ann Wilson: We felt lost
in the theater of it.
507
00:22:56,667 --> 00:22:59,337
It got to the point
where the videos
508
00:22:59,377 --> 00:23:02,006
were more important
than the songs.
509
00:23:02,048 --> 00:23:05,801
Nancy Wilson: It did feel like,
I can't steer the ship anymore.
510
00:23:05,843 --> 00:23:08,428
Where is it going?
Where are we headed?
511
00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:12,474
I think heavy metal is the true
rock and roll of the '80s,
512
00:23:12,516 --> 00:23:16,687
and rock and roll was basically
music made by people
513
00:23:16,729 --> 00:23:19,023
who were thinking
with their crotches.
514
00:23:19,065 --> 00:23:22,442
[ Indistinct singing ]
515
00:23:22,484 --> 00:23:25,029
[Bleep] like a beast!
516
00:23:25,071 --> 00:23:27,823
Heavy metal, it is not something
new in physics,
517
00:23:27,865 --> 00:23:29,158
it is rock and roll.
518
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,494
Loud, rude,
it glorifies sex and violence,
519
00:23:32,536 --> 00:23:35,455
it hates authority,
and adolescent boys love it.
520
00:23:35,497 --> 00:23:38,458
This is it.
This is the hot stuff.
521
00:23:38,500 --> 00:23:40,460
[ Heavy metal plays ]
522
00:23:40,502 --> 00:23:42,755
Alan, turn it off for a second
so we can talk.
523
00:23:42,796 --> 00:23:46,759
♪ A shot in the dark ♪
524
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,470
♪ One step away from you ♪
525
00:23:50,512 --> 00:23:53,682
♪ Just a shot in the dark ♪
526
00:23:53,724 --> 00:23:55,475
Swaggart: You turn
on your television set,
527
00:23:55,517 --> 00:24:01,190
and you see this weird,
beastly presentation
528
00:24:01,232 --> 00:24:03,859
that was birthed
in the pit of hell.
529
00:24:03,901 --> 00:24:07,905
Where do they get this
information from
that I am Satan?
530
00:24:07,947 --> 00:24:10,116
Do I appear to you
to have horns?
531
00:24:10,157 --> 00:24:11,491
I know I'm a bit
strange looking,
532
00:24:11,533 --> 00:24:12,534
but I haven't quite
got horns and breathe fire,
533
00:24:12,576 --> 00:24:14,870
[ Scary voice ] and I don't
speak like that.
534
00:24:14,912 --> 00:24:17,497
Phillips: Critics say there's
something seriously wrong
535
00:24:17,539 --> 00:24:20,084
with metal music,
outrageous by design,
536
00:24:20,126 --> 00:24:23,087
that it may have contributed to
a number of teenage suicides.
537
00:24:23,129 --> 00:24:25,214
Has rock and roll
finally gone too far?
538
00:24:25,256 --> 00:24:27,174
A growing number of people
think so,
539
00:24:27,216 --> 00:24:29,969
and today they took their case
to a U.S. Senate hearing.
540
00:24:30,010 --> 00:24:31,345
Their complaint?
541
00:24:31,387 --> 00:24:34,140
That rock lyrics and videos
are crossing the line
542
00:24:34,181 --> 00:24:36,100
into trash and smut.
543
00:24:36,142 --> 00:24:39,103
We are asking the recording
industry to voluntarily
544
00:24:39,145 --> 00:24:40,896
assist parents who are concerned
545
00:24:40,938 --> 00:24:43,523
by placing a warning label
on music products
546
00:24:43,565 --> 00:24:46,526
inappropriate for
younger children
547
00:24:46,568 --> 00:24:50,156
due to explicit sexual
or violent lyrics.
548
00:24:50,197 --> 00:24:53,533
Wild: In the '80s, these artists
who were pushing boundaries
549
00:24:53,575 --> 00:24:56,703
in different ways were bringing
those messages
550
00:24:56,745 --> 00:24:58,538
and images into our homes,
551
00:24:58,580 --> 00:25:01,541
and that provided political
opportunity
552
00:25:01,583 --> 00:25:03,543
to push back against it.
553
00:25:03,585 --> 00:25:06,046
Burnett: We can say they're
senators' wives -- ooh!
554
00:25:06,088 --> 00:25:08,424
And they're messing around
in Washington,
555
00:25:08,466 --> 00:25:10,550
but they obviously have
some real concerns.
556
00:25:10,592 --> 00:25:12,928
There's a lot that they do
that I applaud
557
00:25:12,970 --> 00:25:17,724
because they are taking
responsibility as citizens.
558
00:25:17,766 --> 00:25:21,603
I brought along two videos which
I believe are representative
559
00:25:21,645 --> 00:25:24,648
of the kind of presentation
which caused the furor.
560
00:25:24,690 --> 00:25:28,361
♪ Got it bad, got it bad,
got it bad ♪
561
00:25:28,402 --> 00:25:31,655
♪ I'm hot for teacher ♪
562
00:25:31,697 --> 00:25:35,742
♪ I got it bad so bad ♪
563
00:25:35,784 --> 00:25:38,996
Roth: Who's going to decide
what's a sexual content
564
00:25:39,038 --> 00:25:40,164
of a lyric?
565
00:25:40,206 --> 00:25:43,583
Who's going to decide
what is obscene
566
00:25:43,625 --> 00:25:46,586
Same housewives who are
spearheading the movement?
567
00:25:46,628 --> 00:25:52,426
In all candor I would tell you
it's outrageous filth.
568
00:25:52,468 --> 00:25:54,887
If I could find some way
Constitutionally
569
00:25:54,928 --> 00:25:56,596
to do away with it, I would.
570
00:25:56,638 --> 00:25:59,058
Fans felt, I'm capable
of making my own decisions
571
00:25:59,099 --> 00:26:00,600
about the music I want
to listen to.
572
00:26:00,642 --> 00:26:02,186
I don't need Tipper Gore
573
00:26:02,228 --> 00:26:04,771
deciding that this is
too obscene for me.
574
00:26:04,813 --> 00:26:06,899
So, the next witness will
be Mr. Frank Zappa.
575
00:26:06,940 --> 00:26:09,651
Zappa: The establishment
of a rating system,
576
00:26:09,693 --> 00:26:11,487
voluntary or otherwise,
577
00:26:11,529 --> 00:26:13,697
opens the door
to an endless parade
578
00:26:13,739 --> 00:26:15,991
of moral quality-control
programs
579
00:26:16,033 --> 00:26:18,911
based on things certain
Christians don't like.
580
00:26:18,952 --> 00:26:20,996
I think you should
leave it up to the parent,
581
00:26:21,038 --> 00:26:22,706
because not all parents want to
582
00:26:22,748 --> 00:26:25,000
keep their children
totally ignorant.
583
00:26:25,042 --> 00:26:27,669
You and I would differ on what's
ignorance and educated.
584
00:26:27,711 --> 00:26:29,338
[ Laughter ]
585
00:26:29,380 --> 00:26:32,508
Simpson: The women didn't get
the rating system they wanted,
586
00:26:32,550 --> 00:26:33,926
but they did get a commitment
587
00:26:33,967 --> 00:26:36,220
to begin applying a printed
inscription
588
00:26:36,262 --> 00:26:39,056
on the packaging of albums,
cassettes, and music videos
589
00:26:39,098 --> 00:26:42,642
warning that they contain
blatant explicit lyrics.
590
00:26:42,684 --> 00:26:45,729
Good rock and roll breaks
all the rules, okay?
591
00:26:45,771 --> 00:26:47,440
That's just the way it is.
592
00:26:47,481 --> 00:26:49,649
That's the way
it always has been.
593
00:26:49,691 --> 00:26:52,652
Elvis Presley was not good
for the children either.
594
00:26:52,694 --> 00:26:56,240
Good morning, everybody.
595
00:26:56,282 --> 00:27:00,035
I'm very pleased to announce
Live Aid
596
00:27:00,077 --> 00:27:04,081
which, without a doubt,
will be the largest pop concert
597
00:27:04,123 --> 00:27:05,665
ever held.
598
00:27:05,707 --> 00:27:07,667
Majewski:
Live Aid was the brainchild
599
00:27:07,709 --> 00:27:09,253
of Bob Geldof and Midge Ure.
600
00:27:09,295 --> 00:27:12,298
And the two of them were looking
to raise as much money
601
00:27:12,339 --> 00:27:14,925
as possible for the famine
victims in Ethiopia.
602
00:27:14,967 --> 00:27:17,886
Ramsey: When tomorrow's 17-hour
fundraising concert starts,
603
00:27:17,928 --> 00:27:20,306
sellout crowds in the stadiums
will be joined
604
00:27:20,347 --> 00:27:22,975
by a television audience of
perhaps 1.5 billion people
605
00:27:23,016 --> 00:27:24,393
around the world.
606
00:27:24,435 --> 00:27:26,686
♪ Come on, baby ♪
607
00:27:26,728 --> 00:27:28,772
♪ Hitting the road ♪
608
00:27:28,814 --> 00:27:31,150
♪ Come on now ♪
609
00:27:31,191 --> 00:27:33,693
♪ In the middle of the road,
yeah ♪
610
00:27:33,735 --> 00:27:35,904
Wild:
Watching Live Aid on TV
611
00:27:35,946 --> 00:27:38,574
was my version of driving
to Woodstock,
612
00:27:38,616 --> 00:27:41,201
and I watched
every second of it.
613
00:27:41,243 --> 00:27:43,870
♪ Everything that is in
the fight to be free ♪
614
00:27:43,912 --> 00:27:48,125
♪ So you don't have
to live like a refugee ♪
615
00:27:48,167 --> 00:27:51,753
♪ Don't have to live
like a refugee ♪
616
00:27:51,795 --> 00:27:55,633
♪ All we hear is radio gaga ♪
617
00:27:55,673 --> 00:27:57,801
♪ Radio goo goo ♪
618
00:27:57,843 --> 00:27:59,719
♪ Radio gaga ♪
619
00:27:59,761 --> 00:28:02,431
Rodgers:
The great thing about Live Aid,
620
00:28:02,473 --> 00:28:04,724
it showed that musicians,
for me,
621
00:28:04,766 --> 00:28:07,394
seemed to be the most altruistic
people in the world.
622
00:28:07,436 --> 00:28:09,729
A group whose heart
is in Dublin, Ireland.
623
00:28:09,771 --> 00:28:12,566
[ Cheers and applause ]
624
00:28:12,608 --> 00:28:14,818
Whose spirit is with the world.
625
00:28:14,860 --> 00:28:18,238
A group that's never had any
problem saying how they feel,
626
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:19,739
U2.
627
00:28:19,781 --> 00:28:22,742
When U2 played Live Aid,
things had changed.
628
00:28:22,784 --> 00:28:24,995
Rock and roll
was getting serious.
629
00:28:25,037 --> 00:28:26,746
Music could change the world.
630
00:28:26,788 --> 00:28:28,541
Bono could change the world.
631
00:28:28,582 --> 00:28:32,752
♪ Sunday bloody Sunday ♪
632
00:28:32,794 --> 00:28:36,756
♪ Sunday bloody Sunday.
633
00:28:38,634 --> 00:28:40,760
Gibson:
U2 formed ten years ago
634
00:28:40,802 --> 00:28:42,762
when its members
were still school boys,
635
00:28:42,804 --> 00:28:46,766
is now arguably the hottest rock
and roll band in the world.
636
00:28:46,808 --> 00:28:48,852
Their last album,
"The Joshua Tree,"
637
00:28:48,894 --> 00:28:52,022
has so far sold more than
13 million copies worldwide.
638
00:28:52,064 --> 00:28:56,652
Wild: U2 somehow in the video
age were still developing
639
00:28:56,694 --> 00:28:58,612
and becoming a great band
640
00:28:58,654 --> 00:29:00,989
and maintaining that kind of
connection with people
641
00:29:01,031 --> 00:29:03,950
and not getting the message lost
in the medium.
642
00:29:03,992 --> 00:29:07,787
Bono:
We've spent the last ten years
finding out how to be in U2.
643
00:29:07,829 --> 00:29:10,832
We'll spend the next ten years
seeing what U2 can do.
644
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,793
Right now, all around us,
645
00:29:13,835 --> 00:29:17,797
and so compelling you never miss
the fact there's no melody,
646
00:29:17,839 --> 00:29:21,510
is a music that's all beat,
strong beat and talk.
647
00:29:21,552 --> 00:29:22,802
It's rap music.
648
00:29:22,844 --> 00:29:26,806
[ Rap music plays ]
649
00:29:26,848 --> 00:29:29,685
Rap music began in Harlem
in the south Bronx
650
00:29:29,727 --> 00:29:30,977
on playgrounds like this one
651
00:29:31,019 --> 00:29:33,105
where people would gather
to spin records
652
00:29:33,146 --> 00:29:35,815
and recite their own lyrics,
their raps,
653
00:29:35,857 --> 00:29:37,401
over the instrumental section.
654
00:29:37,443 --> 00:29:38,736
Come on, now.
655
00:29:38,777 --> 00:29:40,904
♪ Brakes on a bus,
brakes on a car ♪
656
00:29:40,946 --> 00:29:42,822
"The Breaks" was Kurtis Blow's
biggest hit,
657
00:29:42,864 --> 00:29:46,076
selling 680,000 copies
last year
658
00:29:46,118 --> 00:29:48,828
and hitting the top of the
Rhythm and Blues sales chart.
659
00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:51,831
Lover: As a young kid running
around with the local DJ crew,
660
00:29:51,873 --> 00:29:55,043
I watched the transition
from all of the disco music
661
00:29:55,085 --> 00:29:56,920
that we used to play
at all the block parties
662
00:29:56,962 --> 00:29:59,923
to slowly but surely
hip-hop taking over.
663
00:29:59,965 --> 00:30:01,841
[ Hip-hop music plays ]
664
00:30:01,883 --> 00:30:04,637
Woman: The music underneath
rapping is called scratching,
665
00:30:04,678 --> 00:30:06,513
and it's a process of using
two turntables
666
00:30:06,555 --> 00:30:10,768
and a mixer, making new sounds
out of already existing albums.
667
00:30:10,809 --> 00:30:14,688
Thing that gave life to music
in the '80s for me
668
00:30:14,730 --> 00:30:18,692
was hip-hop because it took
the sounds of the '60s and '70s
669
00:30:18,734 --> 00:30:20,444
and brought it to the forefront.
670
00:30:20,486 --> 00:30:22,862
♪ A child is born
with no state of mind ♪
671
00:30:22,904 --> 00:30:24,906
♪ Blind to the ways
of mankind ♪
672
00:30:24,948 --> 00:30:27,242
♪ God is smiling on you
but he's frowning too ♪
673
00:30:27,284 --> 00:30:29,869
♪ Because only God knows
what you gonna do ♪
674
00:30:29,911 --> 00:30:32,872
Graham: "The Message" was
the first hip-hop song
675
00:30:32,914 --> 00:30:34,333
that wasn't just a party song.
676
00:30:34,374 --> 00:30:36,335
It was talking about
what was going on.
677
00:30:36,376 --> 00:30:37,586
It was talking about
urban decay.
678
00:30:37,628 --> 00:30:40,798
It was talking about drugs,
crime, prison,
679
00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:43,467
all these things that were
hitting communities really hard.
680
00:30:43,509 --> 00:30:45,385
♪ Smuggles, scramblers,
burglars, gamblers ♪
681
00:30:45,427 --> 00:30:47,887
♪ Pickpockets, peddlers,
even panhandlers ♪
682
00:30:47,929 --> 00:30:49,515
♪ You say I'm cool ♪
683
00:30:49,556 --> 00:30:51,350
When "The Message" hit, man,
it was like, okay,
684
00:30:51,391 --> 00:30:53,393
put that down.
What he just say?
685
00:30:53,435 --> 00:30:55,187
Pull the record back.
Play that again.
686
00:30:55,228 --> 00:30:59,566
♪ Don't push me
'cause I'm close to the edge ♪
687
00:30:59,608 --> 00:31:01,401
George: Everyone knew the game
had changed.
688
00:31:01,443 --> 00:31:03,362
And it really opened
the flood gates
689
00:31:03,403 --> 00:31:05,905
for the next generation
of rappers.
690
00:31:05,947 --> 00:31:08,534
[ Indistinct rapping ]
691
00:31:08,575 --> 00:31:09,785
♪ It's not Michael Jackson ♪
692
00:31:09,827 --> 00:31:10,952
♪ And this is not "Thriller" ♪
693
00:31:10,994 --> 00:31:13,831
Lover:
When Run-D.M.C. came out,
694
00:31:13,872 --> 00:31:16,916
they were taking
rock and roll music
695
00:31:16,958 --> 00:31:18,711
and putting it together
with hip-hop,
696
00:31:18,752 --> 00:31:20,754
and making something
brand-new out of it.
697
00:31:20,796 --> 00:31:22,922
♪ You can't touch me
with a ten-foot pole ♪
698
00:31:22,964 --> 00:31:25,925
♪ And I even made the devil
sell me his soul ♪
699
00:31:25,967 --> 00:31:29,137
Chuck D.: Run-D.M.C. kind of
Led Zeppelinized hip-hop,
700
00:31:29,179 --> 00:31:31,306
because it was fit
for an arena.
701
00:31:31,348 --> 00:31:33,933
Knocking the scoreboard down.
702
00:31:33,975 --> 00:31:36,144
♪ School girl Sadie with
the classy kinda sassy ♪
703
00:31:36,186 --> 00:31:38,146
♪ Little skirt climbing
way up her knees ♪
704
00:31:38,188 --> 00:31:40,357
♪ There was three young ladies
in the school gym locker ♪
705
00:31:40,399 --> 00:31:42,609
Graham:
Aerosmith had sort of fallen
off the map at that point,
706
00:31:42,651 --> 00:31:44,778
and it sort of brings them back
into the fore,
707
00:31:44,820 --> 00:31:47,740
and it also breaks Run-D.M.C.
in a much bigger way
708
00:31:47,781 --> 00:31:49,742
because then you start to get
more white kids
709
00:31:49,783 --> 00:31:50,950
listening to hip-hop.
710
00:31:50,992 --> 00:31:52,619
♪ Walk this way! ♪
711
00:31:52,661 --> 00:31:53,953
♪ Talk this way ♪
712
00:31:53,995 --> 00:31:56,998
Dow: Run-D.M.C.'s latest album,
entitled "Raising Hell",
713
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,210
has sold more than a million
copies in just 13 weeks,
714
00:32:00,252 --> 00:32:02,045
a first for a rap record.
715
00:32:02,087 --> 00:32:04,964
Their album is called
"License to Ill."
716
00:32:05,006 --> 00:32:07,426
That's a stupid name
for an album.
717
00:32:07,467 --> 00:32:08,968
[ Laughter ]
718
00:32:09,010 --> 00:32:12,097
♪ You wake up late for school
and you don't want to go ♪
719
00:32:15,475 --> 00:32:18,978
♪ You ask your mom "please"
but she still says no ♪
720
00:32:19,020 --> 00:32:21,356
Lover: Hip-hop was our baby.
This was our culture,
721
00:32:21,398 --> 00:32:23,692
this is our music,
we created it,
722
00:32:23,734 --> 00:32:24,984
then here come the Beastie Boys,
723
00:32:25,026 --> 00:32:27,446
and we were afraid
we were going to lose it.
724
00:32:27,487 --> 00:32:29,907
♪ You got to fight ♪
725
00:32:29,948 --> 00:32:32,785
♪ For your right to party ♪
726
00:32:32,826 --> 00:32:34,828
And then when we started
listening to their music,
727
00:32:34,870 --> 00:32:37,873
they really were funky,
and they could really get busy.
728
00:32:37,915 --> 00:32:40,500
We were like, "Okay, all right."
729
00:32:40,542 --> 00:32:45,380
[ Indistinct rapping ]
730
00:32:45,422 --> 00:32:49,301
Rakim: Beastie boys come out
what people thought would be
731
00:32:49,342 --> 00:32:51,511
a pop hip-hop group.
732
00:32:51,553 --> 00:32:52,930
No, they were straight hip-hop.
733
00:32:52,971 --> 00:32:56,391
Beastie Boys was dope [laughs]
you know what I mean?
734
00:32:56,433 --> 00:32:58,310
♪ Brass monkey junkie ♪
735
00:32:58,351 --> 00:33:01,187
♪ Get funky funky ♪
736
00:33:01,229 --> 00:33:05,024
Questlove: "License to Ill"
spread really like wildfire,
737
00:33:05,066 --> 00:33:08,069
and introduced a lot of people
to hip-hop culture.
738
00:33:08,111 --> 00:33:13,032
Can you give us some definition
of the L.L.?
739
00:33:13,074 --> 00:33:15,535
L.L. stands for
Ladies love legend
740
00:33:15,577 --> 00:33:16,912
of long and lean,
lover of ladies,
741
00:33:16,954 --> 00:33:18,330
last of the red hot lovers.
looking for a little.
742
00:33:18,371 --> 00:33:21,124
Looking and learning
and liking -- just a lot of L's.
743
00:33:21,166 --> 00:33:23,042
The guys only be talking
about themselves.
744
00:33:23,084 --> 00:33:25,754
How much of a lover,
how the women love him to death,
745
00:33:25,796 --> 00:33:28,131
how they can throw down,
how good they can dance,
746
00:33:28,173 --> 00:33:29,758
how bad they are,
747
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,719
nobody better mess with me,
and all of that foolishness.
748
00:33:32,761 --> 00:33:35,054
If they were to address
the issues,
749
00:33:35,096 --> 00:33:37,265
the issues being poverty,
750
00:33:37,307 --> 00:33:40,059
the issues being not having
political power,
751
00:33:40,101 --> 00:33:42,061
you see what I'm saying,
all of these issues,
752
00:33:42,103 --> 00:33:44,564
they should be addressing this
with their energy.
753
00:33:44,606 --> 00:33:47,108
♪ Planet Earth
was my place of birth ♪
754
00:33:47,150 --> 00:33:50,069
♪ Born to be the sole controller
of the universe ♪
755
00:33:50,111 --> 00:33:52,531
Chuck D.:
Rakim is the guy at emcee.
756
00:33:52,572 --> 00:33:54,950
He single-handedly changed
the phrasing
757
00:33:54,992 --> 00:33:56,242
of rap music and hip-hop.
758
00:33:56,284 --> 00:33:59,120
He came to the world
like a poet.
759
00:33:59,162 --> 00:34:00,664
♪ It's hard on the boulevard ♪
760
00:34:00,706 --> 00:34:02,958
♪ So I Bogart
and never get scarred ♪
761
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,752
I learned different rhythms
listening to jazz.
762
00:34:05,794 --> 00:34:07,504
I learned different rhythms,
763
00:34:07,546 --> 00:34:10,089
so I incorporated that
in my rhyme style,
764
00:34:10,131 --> 00:34:12,592
not just a regular
"toom, toom, toom."
765
00:34:12,634 --> 00:34:14,469
I was in between.
"To-toom, to-toom, to-toom."
766
00:34:14,511 --> 00:34:16,805
♪ To be all I could be
and more ♪
767
00:34:16,847 --> 00:34:19,516
♪ And see all there is to see
before ♪
768
00:34:19,558 --> 00:34:22,519
What I am trying to do,
I'm trying to set example
769
00:34:22,561 --> 00:34:24,145
for the little kids,
you know what I'm saying,
770
00:34:24,187 --> 00:34:26,105
teach the babies,
you know what I'm saying,
771
00:34:26,147 --> 00:34:27,691
try to lead them
on the right path.
772
00:34:27,733 --> 00:34:29,902
♪ Yes, the rhythm, the ripple ♪
773
00:34:29,943 --> 00:34:32,571
♪ Without pause,
I'm lowering my level ♪
774
00:34:32,612 --> 00:34:36,115
Questlove:
The summer of 1987, "Rebel
Without a Pause" comes out.
775
00:34:36,157 --> 00:34:37,617
It was a call to arms.
776
00:34:37,659 --> 00:34:39,036
It was the sound of anger.
777
00:34:39,077 --> 00:34:40,286
It was the sound of something
boiling under.
778
00:34:40,328 --> 00:34:42,121
Public Enemy literally said
779
00:34:42,163 --> 00:34:44,123
that we want to be music's
worst nightmare.
780
00:34:44,165 --> 00:34:47,335
Pemberton: Public Enemy's
extreme politics has meant
781
00:34:47,377 --> 00:34:50,422
almost no radio air play,
even on black stations.
782
00:34:50,463 --> 00:34:54,426
It's rap for a reason.
They call it a mind revolution.
783
00:34:54,467 --> 00:34:56,219
♪ A rebel in his own mind ♪
784
00:34:56,261 --> 00:34:58,430
[ Indistinct rapping ]
785
00:34:58,471 --> 00:35:02,059
"Rebel Without a Pause"
was heavily influenced
786
00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:03,810
by Rakim
787
00:35:03,852 --> 00:35:06,229
and heavily influenced by what
was just going on.
788
00:35:06,271 --> 00:35:10,400
It was really a desperate call
to have us being heard.
789
00:35:10,442 --> 00:35:14,071
You talk about black all the
time to a multiracial audience.
790
00:35:14,112 --> 00:35:15,405
Shouldn't you maybe
be thinking about,
791
00:35:15,447 --> 00:35:16,949
who are the people
I've got out here?
792
00:35:16,990 --> 00:35:18,366
Haven't you got a responsibility
to them
793
00:35:18,408 --> 00:35:19,826
rather than what you
personally --
794
00:35:19,868 --> 00:35:23,580
I have a responsibility to
my people and my culture
795
00:35:23,622 --> 00:35:27,542
because my people and my culture
have been brutalized
796
00:35:27,584 --> 00:35:29,252
and ignored for years
797
00:35:29,294 --> 00:35:31,170
♪ Mother standing
in the welfare line ♪
798
00:35:31,212 --> 00:35:33,172
♪ The way that you survive
is crime ♪
799
00:35:33,214 --> 00:35:35,174
♪ My life is over so I might
as well speak my mind ♪
800
00:35:35,216 --> 00:35:38,595
Lover: Ice-T is the first
west-coast gangster act.
801
00:35:38,637 --> 00:35:40,013
Reality rap.
802
00:35:40,055 --> 00:35:42,181
6:00 in the morning,
police at my door.
803
00:35:42,223 --> 00:35:45,018
Ice-T did it way before N.W.A.
did it.
804
00:35:45,060 --> 00:35:46,478
♪ Straight outta Compton ♪
805
00:35:46,519 --> 00:35:48,187
♪ Crazy [bleep] named Ice Cube ♪
806
00:35:48,229 --> 00:35:50,482
♪ From the gang called
Niggaz With Attitudes ♪
807
00:35:50,523 --> 00:35:52,818
♪ When I'm called off,
I got a sawed off ♪
808
00:35:52,859 --> 00:35:55,194
♪ Squeeze the trigger
and bodies are hauled off ♪
809
00:35:55,236 --> 00:35:57,196
♪ You too, boy, if you [bleep]
with me ♪
810
00:35:57,238 --> 00:36:00,492
Man: The Los Angeles rap group
N.W.A. drew fire from police
811
00:36:00,533 --> 00:36:03,202
because its album,
"Straight Outta Compton",
812
00:36:03,244 --> 00:36:05,580
talked in brutal
and vulgar language
813
00:36:05,622 --> 00:36:09,042
about retaliating against cops
for their anti-gang sweeps
814
00:36:09,084 --> 00:36:10,209
in the L.A. area.
815
00:36:10,251 --> 00:36:13,588
Lover:
N.W.A. gave us a gritty, grimy,
816
00:36:13,630 --> 00:36:16,299
gang-banging streets of Compton.
817
00:36:16,341 --> 00:36:18,468
This is what's going on with us.
818
00:36:18,510 --> 00:36:20,512
♪ As I leave,
believe I'm stompin' ♪
819
00:36:20,553 --> 00:36:22,221
♪ But when I come back, boy ♪
820
00:36:22,263 --> 00:36:23,181
♪ I'm coming straight
outta Compton ♪
821
00:36:24,641 --> 00:36:31,230
♪ I want my MTV ♪
822
00:36:31,272 --> 00:36:32,691
George: People can talk
about videos,
823
00:36:32,732 --> 00:36:36,402
but in the '80s the actual
sound of what popular music was
824
00:36:36,444 --> 00:36:39,238
and what was accepted
as a sound, a drum sound,
825
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,241
or keyboard sound,
or bass-line sound,
826
00:36:42,283 --> 00:36:45,244
changed profoundly over
the course of the decade.
827
00:36:45,286 --> 00:36:48,040
♪ She drives me crazy ♪
828
00:36:48,081 --> 00:36:49,666
♪ Ooh, ooh ♪
829
00:36:49,708 --> 00:36:52,293
♪ Like no one else ♪
830
00:36:52,335 --> 00:36:54,253
♪ Ooh, ooh ♪
831
00:36:54,295 --> 00:36:56,297
♪ She drives me crazy ♪
832
00:36:56,339 --> 00:36:59,551
♪ And I can't help myself ♪
833
00:36:59,592 --> 00:37:01,344
Brown: Coming to the end
of the '80s
834
00:37:01,386 --> 00:37:03,262
was like watching
a kaleidoscope.
835
00:37:03,304 --> 00:37:05,974
You open it up and you see
a little bit of everything.
836
00:37:06,016 --> 00:37:09,352
♪ The love shack is
a little ol' place ♪
837
00:37:09,394 --> 00:37:14,315
♪ Where we can get together ♪
838
00:37:14,357 --> 00:37:16,526
Quinn: It was a time where
everybody was getting involved
839
00:37:16,568 --> 00:37:20,279
and everybody was expressing
themselves loudly.
840
00:37:20,321 --> 00:37:23,909
We are having
the best time ever.
841
00:37:23,950 --> 00:37:26,078
♪ Never gonna give you up ♪
842
00:37:26,119 --> 00:37:28,287
♪ Never gonna let you down ♪
843
00:37:28,329 --> 00:37:32,291
♪ Never gonna run around
and desert you ♪
844
00:37:32,333 --> 00:37:34,460
Connelly: Every audience
needs to get fed.
845
00:37:34,502 --> 00:37:36,880
You know, we'd fed
the pop audience,
846
00:37:36,922 --> 00:37:39,091
but where's the rock and roll?
847
00:37:39,132 --> 00:37:42,719
♪ Oh, we're halfway there ♪
848
00:37:42,761 --> 00:37:46,681
♪ Oh, living on a prayer ♪
849
00:37:46,723 --> 00:37:50,560
♪ Take my hand,
we'll make it I swear ♪
850
00:37:50,602 --> 00:37:53,688
Bon Jovi comes in
with a huge record.
851
00:37:53,730 --> 00:37:57,316
♪ Pour some sugar on me ♪
852
00:37:57,358 --> 00:38:00,237
Def Leppard, fantastic record.
853
00:38:00,278 --> 00:38:03,322
♪ Pour some sugar on me ♪
854
00:38:03,364 --> 00:38:06,325
And that brings to bring
that kind of music back.
855
00:38:06,367 --> 00:38:08,620
♪ Pour your sugar on me ♪
856
00:38:08,661 --> 00:38:10,205
Nancy Wilson:
At the end of the '80s
857
00:38:10,247 --> 00:38:14,333
everybody came to the same
conclusion simultaneously:
858
00:38:14,375 --> 00:38:16,335
something new
needs to happen here,
859
00:38:16,377 --> 00:38:18,337
and it's got to be
real-sounding.
860
00:38:18,379 --> 00:38:21,133
More garage, less produced.
861
00:38:21,174 --> 00:38:25,344
♪♪
862
00:38:25,386 --> 00:38:27,806
♪ I need an... ♪
863
00:38:27,847 --> 00:38:30,850
Peresman: There was music that
was bubbling out of places like
864
00:38:30,892 --> 00:38:32,560
Portland and Seattle
865
00:38:32,602 --> 00:38:36,148
and bands like Nirvana that
weren't looking to fit in
866
00:38:36,189 --> 00:38:40,068
to what was being played on MTV
or radio.
867
00:38:40,110 --> 00:38:45,364
♪ I can see you every night ♪
868
00:38:45,406 --> 00:38:48,576
Eventually radio and MTV
came to them.
869
00:38:50,578 --> 00:38:53,414
The seeds of what will happen
in the next decade
870
00:38:53,456 --> 00:38:56,375
are already all there
by the end of the '80s.
871
00:38:56,417 --> 00:39:00,755
College rock like R.E.M.
was something new entirely.
872
00:39:00,797 --> 00:39:04,383
♪ Collar me, don't collar me ♪
873
00:39:04,425 --> 00:39:09,806
♪ I've got my spine,
I've got my orange crush ♪
874
00:39:09,848 --> 00:39:11,390
Heilemann: The way that
Peter Buck played the guitar
875
00:39:11,432 --> 00:39:13,310
and the way that Stipe song,
876
00:39:13,351 --> 00:39:14,560
where the voice was incredible
877
00:39:14,602 --> 00:39:16,646
but you couldn't quite figure
out what he was saying,
878
00:39:16,688 --> 00:39:19,232
it just kind of made them more
alluring and more mysterious.
879
00:39:19,274 --> 00:39:23,111
You could get why that band
would become huge.
880
00:39:23,153 --> 00:39:25,404
[ Indistinct singing ]
881
00:39:25,446 --> 00:39:28,825
Peresman: It wasn't new wave.
It wasn't a new romantic.
882
00:39:28,867 --> 00:39:30,785
They started calling it
alternative music.
883
00:39:30,827 --> 00:39:35,790
♪ It's the end of the world
as we know it ♪
884
00:39:35,832 --> 00:39:39,836
♪ It's the end of the world
as we know it ♪
885
00:39:39,878 --> 00:39:41,838
♪ I feel fine ♪
886
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,673
♪ Fine, fine ♪
887
00:39:43,715 --> 00:39:46,425
♪ Fine, fine ♪
888
00:39:46,467 --> 00:39:48,594
[ Cheers and applause ]
889
00:39:48,636 --> 00:39:50,596
This is the thing
about the '80s.
890
00:39:50,638 --> 00:39:55,434
Everyone thinks it's about crazy
haircuts, lots of makeup,
891
00:39:55,476 --> 00:39:57,436
insane clothes, and it was,
892
00:39:57,478 --> 00:40:00,023
but the thing about this music
that lasts
893
00:40:00,065 --> 00:40:01,941
is that their songs
were so good.
894
00:40:01,983 --> 00:40:05,320
Melvoin: You can go back
and listen to those records,
895
00:40:05,362 --> 00:40:08,447
from the engineering
to the musicianship
896
00:40:08,489 --> 00:40:10,825
to the writing and performance
of it
897
00:40:10,867 --> 00:40:13,953
and it surpasses most music.
898
00:40:13,995 --> 00:40:17,456
Brown: Everybody had a story,
and they wanted to tell it.
899
00:40:17,498 --> 00:40:20,335
The artists that were coming
through the TV
900
00:40:20,377 --> 00:40:21,502
and into your lives.
901
00:40:21,544 --> 00:40:24,505
♪ Everybody wants
to rule the world ♪
902
00:40:24,547 --> 00:40:26,465
Questlove:
I'll say the music of the '80s
903
00:40:26,507 --> 00:40:29,468
is more effective than what
came to us in the '60s
904
00:40:29,510 --> 00:40:32,471
simply because all of us
were included this time.
905
00:40:32,513 --> 00:40:37,476
No decade was more effective
in dance music and politics
906
00:40:37,518 --> 00:40:39,687
in different genres
than the '80s.
907
00:40:39,729 --> 00:40:43,649
There will never, ever be
another decade like it, ever.
908
00:40:43,691 --> 00:40:48,696
♪ Everybody wants to rule
the world ♪
909
00:40:48,738 --> 00:40:53,285
♪ There's a room where
the light won't find you ♪
910
00:40:53,326 --> 00:40:57,496
♪ Holding hands while the walls
come tumbling down ♪
911
00:40:57,538 --> 00:41:01,584
♪ When they do, I'll be
right behind you ♪
912
00:41:01,626 --> 00:41:05,671
♪ So glad we've almost made it ♪
913
00:41:05,713 --> 00:41:09,508
♪ So sad they had to fade it ♪
914
00:41:09,550 --> 00:41:15,765
♪ Everybody wants to rule
the world ♪
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