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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,632 --> 00:00:09,050 President Reagan: The only morality they recognize 2 00:00:09,092 --> 00:00:12,053 is what will further their cause. 3 00:00:12,095 --> 00:00:14,055 They reserve unto themselves the right 4 00:00:14,097 --> 00:00:17,434 to commit any crime, to lie, to cheat. 5 00:00:17,476 --> 00:00:21,104 The Russians are gearing up for war. 6 00:00:21,146 --> 00:00:22,439 Frank Reynolds: The Senate today approved 7 00:00:22,481 --> 00:00:26,067 a record $136.5 billion defense budget. 8 00:00:26,109 --> 00:00:27,862 [ Crowd chanting ] 9 00:00:27,903 --> 00:00:31,072 Stahl: The largest anti-nuclear protest in U.S. history. 10 00:00:31,114 --> 00:00:33,116 Brokaw: President Reagan is now much more eager 11 00:00:33,158 --> 00:00:35,452 to meet with the new leader of the Soviet Union. 12 00:00:35,494 --> 00:00:37,955 Reporter: Do you have an agreement, Mr. President? 13 00:00:37,997 --> 00:00:42,083 Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall. 14 00:00:42,125 --> 00:00:44,085 ♪♪ 15 00:01:37,180 --> 00:01:39,140 [ Gunfire ] 16 00:01:39,182 --> 00:01:40,601 Frank Reynolds: In Afghanistan today, 17 00:01:40,642 --> 00:01:44,145 Soviet troops are reported on the move in several areas. 18 00:01:44,187 --> 00:01:47,148 But it is also clear the Russians are meeting resistance 19 00:01:47,190 --> 00:01:50,569 from Muslim tribesmen and units of Afghanistan's army. 20 00:01:50,611 --> 00:01:55,032 Buchanan: In 1980, the Soviet Union had moved into Afghanistan. 21 00:01:55,074 --> 00:01:58,159 It was in Nicaragua. It was in the Caribbean. 22 00:01:58,201 --> 00:02:00,161 There was a feeling that the United States -- 23 00:02:00,203 --> 00:02:01,329 and I felt it -- 24 00:02:01,371 --> 00:02:03,665 the United States could lose the Cold War. 25 00:02:03,707 --> 00:02:07,252 Powell: There was a model of behavior during the Cold War, 26 00:02:07,294 --> 00:02:08,796 and we have often described it as 27 00:02:08,837 --> 00:02:11,548 it was the red side of the map and the blue side of the map 28 00:02:11,590 --> 00:02:13,759 separated by the Iron Curtain. 29 00:02:13,801 --> 00:02:16,845 And the rest of the world, we competed for. 30 00:02:16,887 --> 00:02:20,181 That fundamental clash between communism and capitalism, 31 00:02:20,223 --> 00:02:22,267 between dictatorship and freedom, 32 00:02:22,309 --> 00:02:24,561 was the dividing line in the world 33 00:02:24,603 --> 00:02:26,354 that people assumed would last forever. 34 00:02:26,396 --> 00:02:30,692 But there's a revolution starting to stir. 35 00:02:30,734 --> 00:02:33,403 Frank Reynolds: There has been an unexpected development abroad. 36 00:02:33,445 --> 00:02:35,196 Polish workers in the Baltic area 37 00:02:35,238 --> 00:02:38,366 are standing firm in their strike against the government. 38 00:02:38,408 --> 00:02:41,453 Bierbauer: The demands of the striking Polish workers in Gdansk 39 00:02:41,495 --> 00:02:44,205 included a free press, release of political prisoners, 40 00:02:44,247 --> 00:02:45,206 and the right to strike, 41 00:02:45,248 --> 00:02:47,417 even though these workers had assumed the risk 42 00:02:47,459 --> 00:02:48,877 of striking illegally. 43 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,630 Service: Along comes solidarity, 44 00:02:51,672 --> 00:02:55,216 but it's not a union run by communists. 45 00:02:55,258 --> 00:02:58,637 It's a union run by Polish patriots. 46 00:02:58,679 --> 00:03:03,017 So it's a tremendous threat to the USSR 47 00:03:03,058 --> 00:03:05,060 because of the possible contagion. 48 00:03:05,102 --> 00:03:09,731 It would just wipe out communism if it were allowed to spread. 49 00:03:09,773 --> 00:03:12,943 Randall: One of the principal players in this country's season 50 00:03:12,985 --> 00:03:14,653 of worker discontent, Lech Walesa 51 00:03:14,695 --> 00:03:17,072 spent part of the weekend reinforcing the link 52 00:03:17,114 --> 00:03:19,867 between Poland's workers and the Catholic Church. 53 00:03:19,908 --> 00:03:21,827 It's impossible to understand solidarity 54 00:03:21,869 --> 00:03:27,290 without understanding the impact of Pope John Paul II. 55 00:03:27,332 --> 00:03:31,045 The Soviets are very nervous about John Paul II. 56 00:03:31,086 --> 00:03:35,049 He is an anti-communist, and he's beloved by the Poles. 57 00:03:35,090 --> 00:03:38,886 These pressures are forcing the Polish government 58 00:03:38,927 --> 00:03:42,056 to figure out how to keep control. 59 00:03:42,097 --> 00:03:45,266 The strike by Polish shipyard workers is over. 60 00:03:45,308 --> 00:03:49,270 For the Polish strikers, it was a day worthy of hyperbole, 61 00:03:49,312 --> 00:03:51,690 Lech Walesa telling his followers, 62 00:03:51,732 --> 00:03:54,317 "We are now co-masters of this land." 63 00:03:54,359 --> 00:03:59,698 Lech Walesa and solidarity are showing that you could have 64 00:03:59,740 --> 00:04:03,118 an independent union in a communist country. 65 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,079 And the question was, 66 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,581 How independent were they going to be allowed to be? 67 00:04:07,622 --> 00:04:10,291 How the U.S. deals with Poland, with the Eastern Bloc, 68 00:04:10,333 --> 00:04:12,878 and, of course, with Russia will be early challenges 69 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,090 for the foreign policy of the president-elect, Ronald Reagan. 70 00:04:16,131 --> 00:04:18,092 Zelizer: Reagan had spent much of his career 71 00:04:18,133 --> 00:04:19,885 blasting the Soviet Union 72 00:04:19,927 --> 00:04:22,888 and attacking any Republican or Democrat 73 00:04:22,930 --> 00:04:25,099 who had said we can negotiate. 74 00:04:25,140 --> 00:04:28,476 He had been the leading opponent of détente during the 1970s, 75 00:04:28,518 --> 00:04:32,940 the policy of trying to ease relations with the Soviets. 76 00:04:34,357 --> 00:04:36,693 Brinkley: What he disliked about détente 77 00:04:36,735 --> 00:04:40,321 was that they were hitting the negotiating team as equals. 78 00:04:40,363 --> 00:04:42,908 Reagan thought, "There are two superpowers, 79 00:04:42,950 --> 00:04:45,119 but we have moral superiority 80 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,913 because democracy's inherently good 81 00:04:47,955 --> 00:04:50,582 and Sovietism is inherently bad." 82 00:04:50,624 --> 00:04:53,710 The only morality they recognize 83 00:04:53,752 --> 00:04:57,131 is what will further their cause, 84 00:04:57,172 --> 00:04:58,840 meaning they reserve unto themselves 85 00:04:58,882 --> 00:05:02,928 the right to commit any crime, to lie, to cheat. 86 00:05:02,970 --> 00:05:06,347 I think when you do business with them, even at a détente, 87 00:05:06,389 --> 00:05:08,058 you keep that in mind. 88 00:05:08,100 --> 00:05:11,061 And everybody went, "Oh, this cowboy-shoot-from-the-hip-actor, 89 00:05:11,103 --> 00:05:13,396 doesn't he understand that's not diplomatic?" 90 00:05:13,438 --> 00:05:16,233 And, boy, did he get the Soviets' attention. 91 00:05:16,275 --> 00:05:19,236 But there was a lot of tsh-tshing about whether 92 00:05:19,278 --> 00:05:21,738 this was appropriate for the president to say. 93 00:05:21,780 --> 00:05:24,241 Brands: Ronald Reagan had a more radical view 94 00:05:24,283 --> 00:05:26,076 of American goals in the Cold War 95 00:05:26,118 --> 00:05:27,535 than any president before him. 96 00:05:27,577 --> 00:05:28,745 As he put it, 97 00:05:28,787 --> 00:05:31,456 "My policy toward the communists is very simple -- 98 00:05:31,498 --> 00:05:32,749 We win, they lose." 99 00:05:32,791 --> 00:05:33,959 It shocked people. 100 00:05:34,001 --> 00:05:37,045 It sounds as if, sir, you're saying 101 00:05:37,087 --> 00:05:40,048 that there isn't going to be any summit meeting with the -- 102 00:05:40,090 --> 00:05:43,384 No, I don't know, but I do believe this -- 103 00:05:43,426 --> 00:05:49,891 that it is rather foolish to have unilaterally disarmed 104 00:05:49,933 --> 00:05:53,394 by letting our margin of safety deteriorate 105 00:05:53,436 --> 00:05:56,397 and then you sit with a fellow who's got all the arms. 106 00:05:56,439 --> 00:05:58,775 What do you have to negotiate with? 107 00:05:58,817 --> 00:06:00,277 The Senate today approved 108 00:06:00,319 --> 00:06:03,613 a record $136.5 billion defense budget 109 00:06:03,655 --> 00:06:05,824 for fiscal 1982. 110 00:06:05,866 --> 00:06:08,202 The vote was overwhelming -- 92-1. 111 00:06:08,243 --> 00:06:13,414 Reagan was trying to spend the USSR into oblivion. 112 00:06:13,456 --> 00:06:15,876 He said, "What we spend on our armed forces 113 00:06:15,917 --> 00:06:19,420 is a much smaller proportion of our economy, 114 00:06:19,462 --> 00:06:21,422 than is the case with you. 115 00:06:21,464 --> 00:06:23,424 Now see if you can compete." 116 00:06:23,466 --> 00:06:26,678 Naftali: Ronald Reagan's clear anti-communism 117 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,473 made many people worry that though he didn't want war, 118 00:06:30,515 --> 00:06:32,433 the effect of his thinking 119 00:06:32,475 --> 00:06:34,728 would be the coming up of unwanted war. 120 00:06:34,769 --> 00:06:38,899 Reporter: In Poland, the state counsel has decreed the introduction 121 00:06:38,940 --> 00:06:42,443 of martial law beginning today. 122 00:06:42,485 --> 00:06:44,321 Lech Walesa, the leader in solidarity, 123 00:06:44,363 --> 00:06:46,323 is said to be in a government guest house, 124 00:06:46,365 --> 00:06:47,448 not under arrest. 125 00:06:47,490 --> 00:06:49,492 But dozens of Polish activists and dissidents 126 00:06:49,534 --> 00:06:51,036 have been locked up, 127 00:06:51,078 --> 00:06:53,997 along with some former leaders of the communist government. 128 00:07:00,962 --> 00:07:04,841 Naftali: There was concern that the Soviets were going to invade 129 00:07:04,883 --> 00:07:06,260 and that the Poles, 130 00:07:06,301 --> 00:07:09,470 in their drive for self-determination, 131 00:07:09,512 --> 00:07:14,101 were gonna go beyond whatever mental threshold 132 00:07:14,142 --> 00:07:15,643 the Soviet leadership had. 133 00:07:15,685 --> 00:07:17,062 At the Vatican today, 134 00:07:17,104 --> 00:07:19,356 Pope John Paul II expressed concern 135 00:07:19,398 --> 00:07:22,317 for the worsening situation in his native Poland. 136 00:07:22,359 --> 00:07:25,112 Pope John Paul told some 200 Polish pilgrims 137 00:07:25,153 --> 00:07:26,654 he knew were in the crowd 138 00:07:26,696 --> 00:07:29,991 that they and all fellow Poles should pray for peace. 139 00:07:30,033 --> 00:07:34,495 Service: The Cold War became as cold as it had ever been before. 140 00:07:34,537 --> 00:07:37,791 It got so cold, it was capable of becoming hot. 141 00:07:37,832 --> 00:07:39,500 [ Indistinct shouting ] 142 00:07:39,542 --> 00:07:42,503 Rather: There had been rumors -- today, confirmation. 143 00:07:42,545 --> 00:07:45,757 Deaths and injuries among the enforcers and resistors 144 00:07:45,799 --> 00:07:48,885 to the military rule imposed since Sunday. 145 00:07:48,927 --> 00:07:50,845 [ Indistinct shouting ] 146 00:07:52,264 --> 00:07:54,724 President Reagan: Tragic events now occurring in Poland, 147 00:07:54,766 --> 00:07:56,101 almost two years to the day 148 00:07:56,143 --> 00:07:58,770 after the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, 149 00:07:58,812 --> 00:08:02,316 have been precipitated by public and secret pressure 150 00:08:02,357 --> 00:08:03,733 from the Soviet Union. 151 00:08:03,775 --> 00:08:05,610 The United States is taking immediate action 152 00:08:05,652 --> 00:08:08,613 to suspend major elements of our economic relationships 153 00:08:08,655 --> 00:08:10,240 with the Polish government. 154 00:08:10,282 --> 00:08:12,533 Mann: The first crisis in Poland 155 00:08:12,575 --> 00:08:15,745 provides a vehicle for Reagan to begin to think 156 00:08:15,787 --> 00:08:19,540 that maybe the communist system in Eastern Europe 157 00:08:19,582 --> 00:08:23,962 is not as stable as people imagined. 158 00:08:24,004 --> 00:08:26,006 Moyers: This is the Pershing missile. 159 00:08:26,047 --> 00:08:28,633 A new version of it will soon be deployed in Europe. 160 00:08:28,675 --> 00:08:31,845 This is the cruise missile, also to join NATO's arsenal, 161 00:08:31,886 --> 00:08:33,347 based on European soil 162 00:08:33,388 --> 00:08:35,432 and pointed toward the Soviet Union 163 00:08:35,474 --> 00:08:37,184 and the Communist Bloc. 164 00:08:37,225 --> 00:08:41,146 Reagan started pushing to have Pershing missiles in Europe 165 00:08:41,188 --> 00:08:44,565 and say, "We're going t o really start ratcheting up 166 00:08:44,607 --> 00:08:46,567 The Cold War even further." 167 00:08:46,609 --> 00:08:49,196 Many of the demonstrators you'll see in the next two days 168 00:08:49,237 --> 00:08:51,656 will be protesting the deployment of the new missiles. 169 00:08:51,698 --> 00:08:53,574 They fear that, in the event of war, 170 00:08:53,616 --> 00:08:55,576 this would make Europe a battlefield 171 00:08:55,618 --> 00:08:57,578 and leave America unscathed. 172 00:08:57,620 --> 00:09:00,290 [ Crowd chanting ] 173 00:09:02,125 --> 00:09:04,794 Kalb: They are, for the most part, nonviolent, 174 00:09:04,836 --> 00:09:06,880 trapped by geography on the front line 175 00:09:06,921 --> 00:09:08,423 of the East/West struggle. 176 00:09:08,465 --> 00:09:11,468 The fears in the Cold War period in the early 1980s 177 00:09:11,510 --> 00:09:14,804 was that if things went wrong, they would go totally wrong, 178 00:09:14,846 --> 00:09:18,975 that we might be at the cusp of total nuclear war. 179 00:09:19,017 --> 00:09:22,312 Stahl: The largest anti-nuclear protest in U.S. history today 180 00:09:22,354 --> 00:09:23,813 engulfed Manhattan. 181 00:09:23,855 --> 00:09:27,484 Morton: Police say up to 700,000 -- comparable to the largest 182 00:09:27,526 --> 00:09:29,861 of the anti-Vietnam rallies of a decade ago. 183 00:09:29,903 --> 00:09:32,613 Clayburgh: This is life. This isn't political. 184 00:09:32,655 --> 00:09:34,824 This is about the future of life. 185 00:09:34,866 --> 00:09:38,286 Adelman: Ronald Reagan thought that the freeze movement was ridiculous, 186 00:09:38,328 --> 00:09:39,662 that the number of nuclear weapons -- 187 00:09:39,704 --> 00:09:42,499 some 40,000 in the world -- were way too high, 188 00:09:42,541 --> 00:09:45,626 that to freeze them would lock in Soviet superiority 189 00:09:45,668 --> 00:09:48,505 in certain numbers that he wanted to eliminate. 190 00:09:48,547 --> 00:09:51,299 In your discussions of the nuclear freeze proposals, 191 00:09:51,341 --> 00:09:53,718 I urge you to beware the temptation of pride, 192 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,138 the temptation of declaring both sides equally at fault, 193 00:09:57,180 --> 00:09:59,349 to ignore the facts of history 194 00:09:59,391 --> 00:10:01,893 and the aggressive impulses of an evil empire, 195 00:10:01,935 --> 00:10:05,021 to simply call the arms race a giant misunderstanding, 196 00:10:05,063 --> 00:10:07,732 and thereby remove yourself from the struggle 197 00:10:07,774 --> 00:10:10,569 between right and wrong and good and evil. 198 00:10:10,610 --> 00:10:13,071 Adelman: Reagan delegitimized the Soviet Union. 199 00:10:13,113 --> 00:10:14,489 Now, the trouble is, 200 00:10:14,531 --> 00:10:17,117 you're both poised with these weapons at each other, 201 00:10:17,158 --> 00:10:18,659 which is a terrible way to live -- 202 00:10:18,701 --> 00:10:20,661 mutually assured destruction. 203 00:10:20,703 --> 00:10:23,457 So Reagan said, "Why don't we do something 204 00:10:23,498 --> 00:10:26,251 and put a protective shield between us 205 00:10:26,293 --> 00:10:29,045 so that I can have some other option." 206 00:10:29,087 --> 00:10:32,382 And that was the birth of the Strategic Defense Initiative, 207 00:10:32,424 --> 00:10:35,718 called SDI -- or, unkindly, called "Star Wars." 208 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,554 President Reagan: What if free people 209 00:10:37,596 --> 00:10:40,681 could intercept and destroy strategic ballistic missiles 210 00:10:40,723 --> 00:10:43,477 before they reached our own soil or that of our allies? 211 00:10:43,518 --> 00:10:45,686 Valeriani: The United States is already spending 212 00:10:45,728 --> 00:10:47,730 about a billion dollars a year on research 213 00:10:47,772 --> 00:10:51,151 into laser and directed energy, or particle beam weapons -- 214 00:10:51,192 --> 00:10:53,320 the kind of Buck Rogers technology 215 00:10:53,361 --> 00:10:54,695 the president talked about. 216 00:10:54,737 --> 00:10:56,948 Powell: President Reagan didn't understand all the technologies. 217 00:10:56,990 --> 00:10:58,950 What he understood was, "Wow. 218 00:10:58,992 --> 00:11:01,702 If we have a defensive system 219 00:11:01,744 --> 00:11:04,414 that stops their offensive missiles, 220 00:11:04,456 --> 00:11:08,709 then their offensive missiles have no value and we're safe." 221 00:11:08,751 --> 00:11:11,421 Naftali: The Soviets were very nervous and very afraid. 222 00:11:11,463 --> 00:11:12,713 There is a stasis, 223 00:11:12,755 --> 00:11:15,967 almost a paralysis at the top of the leadership. 224 00:11:16,009 --> 00:11:18,386 They were fearful that the Reagan Administration 225 00:11:18,428 --> 00:11:20,388 would take advantage of their weakness. 226 00:11:20,430 --> 00:11:24,725 As a result of this, the Soviets are very reactive. 227 00:11:24,767 --> 00:11:27,103 If you were watching this broadcast last night, 228 00:11:27,145 --> 00:11:30,190 you probably went to sleep with the same impression we did -- 229 00:11:30,231 --> 00:11:32,108 There had been some kind of a hassle 230 00:11:32,150 --> 00:11:35,736 between Soviet fighter jets and a Korean Air Lines 747, 231 00:11:35,778 --> 00:11:37,531 and we led you to believe 232 00:11:37,572 --> 00:11:41,117 that the plane had landed safely on Soviet territory. 233 00:11:41,159 --> 00:11:42,785 Sadly, that was not true. 234 00:11:42,827 --> 00:11:45,121 Shultz: At approximately 1600 hours, 235 00:11:45,163 --> 00:11:47,748 the aircraft strayed into Soviet airspace. 236 00:11:47,790 --> 00:11:50,751 The Korean aircraft was reported by the Soviet pilot 237 00:11:50,793 --> 00:11:52,753 at 10,000 meters. 238 00:11:52,795 --> 00:11:54,673 At 1826 hours, 239 00:11:54,713 --> 00:11:58,759 the Soviet pilot reported that he fired a missile, 240 00:11:58,801 --> 00:12:00,761 and the target was destroyed. 241 00:12:00,803 --> 00:12:02,847 They went on a peaceful trip. 242 00:12:02,889 --> 00:12:06,560 They weren't any spies or anything like that. 243 00:12:06,601 --> 00:12:10,689 I think the Russians are gearing up for war 244 00:12:10,771 --> 00:12:13,774 and doing everything that they can to prepare for it. 245 00:12:13,816 --> 00:12:16,152 Hoffman: It was not an intentional hostile act 246 00:12:16,194 --> 00:12:17,778 against Korean Air Lines. 247 00:12:17,820 --> 00:12:20,865 It was a mistake of a system that was falling apart. 248 00:12:20,907 --> 00:12:24,077 President Reagan: This crime against humanity must never be forgotten -- 249 00:12:24,118 --> 00:12:25,828 here or throughout the world. 250 00:12:25,870 --> 00:12:28,831 It was an act of barbarism, born of a society 251 00:12:28,873 --> 00:12:31,792 which wantonly disregards individual rights 252 00:12:31,834 --> 00:12:33,712 and the value of human life 253 00:12:33,752 --> 00:12:37,298 and seeks constantly to expand and dominate other nations. 254 00:12:37,340 --> 00:12:40,677 The timing was particularly bad 255 00:12:40,719 --> 00:12:43,054 because the United States and the Soviets 256 00:12:43,096 --> 00:12:44,639 were not talking at all. 257 00:12:44,681 --> 00:12:47,808 Two great powers are afraid of each other, 258 00:12:47,850 --> 00:12:50,811 and KL007 happens 259 00:12:50,853 --> 00:12:53,314 almost at the climax of this period of fear, 260 00:12:53,356 --> 00:12:54,857 and that makes 1983 261 00:12:54,899 --> 00:12:57,818 one of the most dangerous years of the Cold War. 262 00:12:57,860 --> 00:13:01,864 Service: Because of the suspicions about Ronald Reagan, 263 00:13:01,906 --> 00:13:06,202 the Soviet intelligence agencies thought that under the cover 264 00:13:06,244 --> 00:13:09,539 of a military exercise called Abel Archer, 265 00:13:09,581 --> 00:13:15,211 a first nuclear strike on Moscow could be launched. 266 00:13:15,253 --> 00:13:17,505 Brands: When Reagan discovered 267 00:13:17,547 --> 00:13:19,924 that the Soviets actually did think 268 00:13:19,966 --> 00:13:23,844 that the United States might launch a preemptive strike, 269 00:13:23,886 --> 00:13:26,306 it was kind of one of these moments -- "My gosh. 270 00:13:26,347 --> 00:13:29,309 I'm gonna look upon them in a different light." 271 00:13:29,350 --> 00:13:32,103 An estimated 100 million Americans watched last night 272 00:13:32,145 --> 00:13:34,731 as some of the horror of a nuclear bomb attack 273 00:13:34,773 --> 00:13:37,358 on the United States was portrayed in a TV movie. 274 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,152 [ People screaming ] 275 00:13:41,321 --> 00:13:44,865 Brinkley: Reagan processed a lot of history through movies, 276 00:13:44,907 --> 00:13:47,868 and the fact that this fear of nuclear annihilation 277 00:13:47,910 --> 00:13:50,580 was very real, he started feeling 278 00:13:50,622 --> 00:13:54,751 that maybe he was put on Earth here to avoid nuclear war. 279 00:13:54,793 --> 00:13:58,254 Just suppose with me for a moment 280 00:13:58,296 --> 00:14:01,758 that an Ivan and an Anya could find themselves, 281 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,885 oh, say, in a waiting room with a Jim and Sally 282 00:14:04,927 --> 00:14:06,929 and there was no language barrier. 283 00:14:06,971 --> 00:14:09,516 Would they then debate the differences 284 00:14:09,557 --> 00:14:11,892 between their respective governments, 285 00:14:11,934 --> 00:14:13,687 or would they find themselves 286 00:14:13,728 --> 00:14:15,814 comparing notes about their children, 287 00:14:15,854 --> 00:14:17,774 what each other did for a living? 288 00:14:17,816 --> 00:14:21,611 They would have proven that people don't make wars. 289 00:14:21,653 --> 00:14:24,489 Reagan comes to understand he's made a mistake 290 00:14:24,531 --> 00:14:26,907 by not trying to meet with the Soviets, 291 00:14:26,949 --> 00:14:29,786 and his desire to do this gets much stronger 292 00:14:29,828 --> 00:14:31,538 after it becomes clear to him 293 00:14:31,579 --> 00:14:34,290 that there's such a level of misunderstanding 294 00:14:34,332 --> 00:14:36,000 between the two adversaries 295 00:14:36,042 --> 00:14:38,002 that an inadvertent war is possible. 296 00:14:38,044 --> 00:14:41,422 This is a CBS News special report. 297 00:14:46,052 --> 00:14:48,929 Gorbachev takes control. 298 00:14:48,971 --> 00:14:50,931 When the death of Constantine Chernenko 299 00:14:50,973 --> 00:14:52,933 was announced today, the world waited to see 300 00:14:52,975 --> 00:14:55,645 who would win the struggle for control of the Kremlin. 301 00:14:55,687 --> 00:14:59,816 It was a short wait -- just 4 hours and 15 minutes. 302 00:14:59,858 --> 00:15:03,944 Winning that power is 54-year-old Mikhail Gorbachev. 303 00:15:03,986 --> 00:15:05,405 Now the world is watching -- 304 00:15:05,446 --> 00:15:07,948 watching what the new Kremlin leader will do. 305 00:15:07,990 --> 00:15:09,450 Gustafson: The politburo has reached 306 00:15:09,492 --> 00:15:11,952 for the youngest man among the four members 307 00:15:11,994 --> 00:15:15,206 and the one who comes advertised, anyhow, 308 00:15:15,248 --> 00:15:16,916 as the one most likely to rock the boat. 309 00:15:20,044 --> 00:15:22,963 Phillips: At 54, Gorbachev is the youngest man 310 00:15:23,005 --> 00:15:25,174 to lead the Soviet Union since Stalin. 311 00:15:25,216 --> 00:15:26,967 Unlike his predecessors, 312 00:15:27,009 --> 00:15:29,178 Gorbachev might feel less tied down 313 00:15:29,220 --> 00:15:31,222 by the burden of Soviet history. 314 00:15:31,264 --> 00:15:33,974 Gorbachev is really a revolution in himself. 315 00:15:34,016 --> 00:15:36,561 He is talking about a new Soviet Union, 316 00:15:36,603 --> 00:15:41,232 allowing some freedom of speech, allowing a more open society. 317 00:15:41,274 --> 00:15:43,984 Hoffman: Gorbachev had seen how the gap 318 00:15:44,026 --> 00:15:47,488 between how the Soviet people live and what the party said 319 00:15:47,530 --> 00:15:49,783 was growing wider and wider. 320 00:15:49,824 --> 00:15:52,577 But he is a child of the system. 321 00:15:52,619 --> 00:15:54,078 He did not want to destroy it. 322 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,873 He had in his mind, "I have to save it." 323 00:16:09,427 --> 00:16:11,011 [ Laughter ] 324 00:16:11,053 --> 00:16:16,601 I want him to fight for peace and for better life. 325 00:16:16,643 --> 00:16:19,019 I think that he will be a good leader, 326 00:16:19,061 --> 00:16:20,605 and I like him. 327 00:16:20,647 --> 00:16:23,399 Naftali: Those first couple of years of the Reagan first term, 328 00:16:23,441 --> 00:16:25,067 Reagan didn't meet any Soviet leaders. 329 00:16:25,109 --> 00:16:26,277 And when asked about it, 330 00:16:26,319 --> 00:16:28,112 Reagan said, "Well, they keep dying on me." 331 00:16:28,154 --> 00:16:29,489 Well that was true, 332 00:16:29,530 --> 00:16:32,867 but he wasn't really making much of an effort. 333 00:16:32,909 --> 00:16:34,869 And there was a fear 334 00:16:34,911 --> 00:16:37,121 that "If you don't reach out to the Soviets, 335 00:16:37,163 --> 00:16:40,082 they are so afraid of us, they will do something stupid." 336 00:16:40,124 --> 00:16:42,669 President Reagan has had a change of heart. 337 00:16:42,710 --> 00:16:44,044 He is now much more eager 338 00:16:44,086 --> 00:16:46,840 to meet with the new leader of the Soviet Union, 339 00:16:46,881 --> 00:16:49,216 and he has sent Mikhail Gorbachev a letter 340 00:16:49,258 --> 00:16:50,426 suggesting a summit. 341 00:16:50,468 --> 00:16:52,553 [ Indistinct talking ] 342 00:17:01,980 --> 00:17:04,064 Hayward: All previous summits had had a communiqué 343 00:17:04,106 --> 00:17:06,233 worked out ahead of time by the two foreign ministries -- 344 00:17:06,275 --> 00:17:08,068 "Here's what we're gonna say at the end," 345 00:17:08,110 --> 00:17:09,236 and there'd be some gaps in it 346 00:17:09,278 --> 00:17:11,071 that'd be filled in during the meetings. 347 00:17:11,113 --> 00:17:13,073 Reagan said, "Nope, we're not doing any communiqués" -- 348 00:17:13,115 --> 00:17:14,868 says, "Whatever comes out of the summit 349 00:17:14,909 --> 00:17:17,578 will be what we develop while we're there." 350 00:17:17,620 --> 00:17:19,664 Plante: After 70 minutes with their advisors, 351 00:17:19,706 --> 00:17:20,999 Mr. Reagan invited Gorbachev 352 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,083 to stroll through the garden to the pool house, 353 00:17:23,125 --> 00:17:25,085 where they sat alone before a fire. 354 00:17:25,127 --> 00:17:27,087 Mr. Reagan talked without notes -- 355 00:17:27,129 --> 00:17:29,549 not about arms control, but of his personal feelings 356 00:17:29,590 --> 00:17:32,134 about reducing the level of fear and misunderstanding 357 00:17:32,176 --> 00:17:34,094 between the two nations. 358 00:17:34,136 --> 00:17:37,557 The main thing was that they met each other as human beings. 359 00:17:37,598 --> 00:17:41,019 Reagan, in particular, had concentrated his attention 360 00:17:41,060 --> 00:17:42,812 on Gorbachev as a person. 361 00:17:42,854 --> 00:17:45,565 He spent more time studying Gorbachev 362 00:17:45,606 --> 00:17:49,944 than he did the esoteric things having to do with arms control. 363 00:17:49,986 --> 00:17:52,488 Wallace: It is understood the president tried to dispel 364 00:17:52,530 --> 00:17:54,365 Gorbachev's negative image of the U.S. 365 00:17:54,407 --> 00:17:55,783 Gorbachev wouldn't budge. 366 00:17:55,825 --> 00:17:58,118 But he was not nearly as combative as he's been 367 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,705 with other American officials recently. 368 00:18:00,747 --> 00:18:02,289 Reporter: Is this a good sign? 369 00:18:02,331 --> 00:18:03,708 [ Speaking Russian ] 370 00:18:03,750 --> 00:18:05,125 [ Speaking Russian ] 371 00:18:05,167 --> 00:18:06,419 I would think so. 372 00:18:06,460 --> 00:18:08,504 Adelman: I was at lunch when Ronald Reagan 373 00:18:08,546 --> 00:18:11,716 came out of this first meeting with Mikhail Gorbachev, 374 00:18:11,758 --> 00:18:14,719 and he said, "This is a new type of Soviet leader." 375 00:18:14,761 --> 00:18:16,303 Wallace: The president announced 376 00:18:16,345 --> 00:18:18,723 Gorbachev will visit the U.S. next year 377 00:18:18,765 --> 00:18:21,517 and that they agreed to accelerate the arms talks. 378 00:18:21,559 --> 00:18:23,227 But the Soviet leader was more negative. 379 00:18:23,269 --> 00:18:27,189 Interpreter: The solving of the most important problems 380 00:18:27,231 --> 00:18:30,944 concerning the arms race and increasing hopes of peace, 381 00:18:30,985 --> 00:18:35,155 we didn't succeed in reaching at this meeting. 382 00:18:35,197 --> 00:18:38,034 So, of course, there are important disagreements 383 00:18:38,076 --> 00:18:40,536 on matters of principle that remain between us. 384 00:18:40,578 --> 00:18:43,539 Kur: The general feeling here is that President Reagan 385 00:18:43,581 --> 00:18:45,875 deserves credit for starting a dialogue 386 00:18:45,917 --> 00:18:47,877 with Soviet leader Gorbachev -- 387 00:18:47,919 --> 00:18:49,378 that, in the nuclear age, 388 00:18:49,420 --> 00:18:52,214 any lessening of tension must be applauded. 389 00:18:52,256 --> 00:18:56,052 But many here pronounced the summit only a modest success 390 00:18:56,094 --> 00:18:59,179 because it failed to achieve significant progress 391 00:18:59,221 --> 00:19:00,598 on arms control. 392 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,141 [ Device clicking ] 393 00:19:06,604 --> 00:19:09,231 Dean Reynolds: The first word that something was seriously wrong 394 00:19:09,273 --> 00:19:11,358 came from this power plant in eastern Sweden, 395 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,694 where workers coming on the job registered 396 00:19:13,736 --> 00:19:16,280 abnormally high levels of radiation on their bodies. 397 00:19:16,322 --> 00:19:17,782 [ Device clicking ] 398 00:19:17,824 --> 00:19:19,366 And as tests were conducted, 399 00:19:19,408 --> 00:19:22,286 similar, puzzling reports of high radiation came in 400 00:19:22,328 --> 00:19:23,997 from all over Scandinavia. 401 00:19:24,038 --> 00:19:26,290 But still, no accidents were reported. 402 00:19:26,332 --> 00:19:28,375 Hager: Finally, a surprise -- 403 00:19:28,417 --> 00:19:31,295 The radiation was coming from 750 miles away, 404 00:19:31,337 --> 00:19:33,631 at Chernobyl in the Soviet Union. 405 00:19:33,673 --> 00:19:36,592 A terse announcement picked up from Radio Moscow. 406 00:19:36,634 --> 00:19:39,804 Reporter: The Soviet government reports an accident 407 00:19:39,846 --> 00:19:42,222 at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant 408 00:19:42,264 --> 00:19:43,265 in the Ukraine. 409 00:19:43,307 --> 00:19:46,519 The instinctive reaction of the Soviet bureaucracy 410 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,480 was to deny that anything had really happened, 411 00:19:49,522 --> 00:19:52,483 as a result of which, people died. 412 00:19:52,525 --> 00:19:55,235 Not only were ordinary Soviets 413 00:19:55,277 --> 00:19:58,156 not getting the truth about Chernobyl, 414 00:19:58,197 --> 00:20:00,533 the top leaders were not getting the truth. 415 00:20:00,574 --> 00:20:03,243 Gorbachev discovered that he was also in the dark, 416 00:20:03,285 --> 00:20:04,662 as the Soviet leader. 417 00:20:04,704 --> 00:20:08,332 Rodgers: Soviet newscasters deliberately played down the incident, 418 00:20:08,374 --> 00:20:11,044 reporting it after the latest five-year plan 419 00:20:11,085 --> 00:20:12,086 and crop reports. 420 00:20:12,128 --> 00:20:14,254 Eight or nine minutes into the news, 421 00:20:14,296 --> 00:20:17,257 an announcer finally said only two people had been killed 422 00:20:17,299 --> 00:20:19,886 in the incident, contradicting one news report 423 00:20:19,927 --> 00:20:22,262 that the casualties numbered in the thousands. 424 00:20:22,304 --> 00:20:25,058 Chernobyl was not a flash in the pan. 425 00:20:25,099 --> 00:20:28,268 Every few weeks, there would be something like Chernobyl, 426 00:20:28,310 --> 00:20:31,647 because of the structural defects of the Soviet system. 427 00:20:31,689 --> 00:20:33,774 Stahl: Officials say that because this took place 428 00:20:33,816 --> 00:20:36,694 at the Soviet's newest reactor, it's another indication 429 00:20:36,736 --> 00:20:39,446 of the inferiority of Soviet technology. 430 00:20:39,488 --> 00:20:41,908 And they say the Soviets brought on the accident 431 00:20:41,949 --> 00:20:44,284 by not taking the same kind of safety precautions 432 00:20:44,326 --> 00:20:46,286 taken in the United States. 433 00:20:46,328 --> 00:20:50,083 Naftali: Chernobyl reminded the Soviets that they couldn't play 434 00:20:50,124 --> 00:20:52,085 in the game of modern technology. 435 00:20:52,126 --> 00:20:54,294 They couldn't protect their own people, 436 00:20:54,336 --> 00:20:56,296 and they couldn't hide it anymore. 437 00:20:56,338 --> 00:20:58,298 Dobbs: Gorbachev's biggest challenge 438 00:20:58,340 --> 00:21:00,300 was how to get his country moving again, 439 00:21:00,342 --> 00:21:03,554 and in order to do that, he needed to end the arms race, 440 00:21:03,596 --> 00:21:07,225 he needed to spend more money on improving living standards 441 00:21:07,266 --> 00:21:09,102 of ordinary people, and for that, 442 00:21:09,143 --> 00:21:11,687 he needed a relaxation of tensions with the West. 443 00:21:11,729 --> 00:21:14,190 [ Cameras shutters clicking ] 444 00:21:14,232 --> 00:21:15,691 Reporter: Iceland? Iceland? 445 00:21:15,733 --> 00:21:17,693 Yeah, that's what I was here to tell you about. 446 00:21:17,735 --> 00:21:20,905 [ Laughter ] 447 00:21:20,947 --> 00:21:22,322 Well, I am pleased to announce 448 00:21:22,364 --> 00:21:24,909 that General Secretary Gorbachev and I will meet 449 00:21:24,951 --> 00:21:28,121 October 11th and 12th in Reykjavik, Iceland. 450 00:21:28,162 --> 00:21:31,916 The meeting was proposed by General Secretary Gorbachev, 451 00:21:31,958 --> 00:21:33,333 and I've accepted. 452 00:21:33,375 --> 00:21:35,002 No agreements at the meeting next week? 453 00:21:35,044 --> 00:21:36,837 I don't know. 454 00:21:36,879 --> 00:21:39,173 All we've agreed upon is that we're gonna have a meeting. 455 00:21:39,215 --> 00:21:41,801 [ Helicopter blades whirring ] 456 00:21:41,842 --> 00:21:44,720 Andrews: Gorbachev needs a show of progress overseas 457 00:21:44,762 --> 00:21:46,346 to boost his stature in Moscow. 458 00:21:46,388 --> 00:21:48,933 The irony of Reykjavik will be that when Reagan, 459 00:21:48,975 --> 00:21:51,936 the leader of the Free World, meets Gorbachev, the autocrat, 460 00:21:51,978 --> 00:21:55,439 it will be Gorbachev who most needs the publicity back home. 461 00:21:58,567 --> 00:22:02,362 [ Indistinct talking ] 462 00:22:02,404 --> 00:22:03,990 At Reykjavik, the feeling was 463 00:22:04,031 --> 00:22:06,366 we didn't have to prepare all that much. 464 00:22:06,408 --> 00:22:08,368 According to everything we knew, it was gonna be 465 00:22:08,410 --> 00:22:11,622 a "Howdy" and "Hello," a handshake -- a photo op. 466 00:22:11,664 --> 00:22:15,375 And it turned out to be anything else but that. 467 00:22:15,417 --> 00:22:19,379 After the first morning, when Reagan and Gorbachev met, 468 00:22:19,421 --> 00:22:23,467 we were called into the embassy, which is right nearby, 469 00:22:23,509 --> 00:22:25,303 Reagan says, 470 00:22:25,343 --> 00:22:28,430 "Gorbachev really wants to reduce nuclear weapons." 471 00:22:28,472 --> 00:22:32,434 So he hands a piece of paper to no one in particular. 472 00:22:32,476 --> 00:22:34,478 [ Laughing ] All of us try to grab it. 473 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,607 We looked it over, and it was a "Holy cow" moment. 474 00:22:38,649 --> 00:22:41,861 "This guy really wants to reduce nuclear weapons." 475 00:22:41,902 --> 00:22:45,447 Here was a Soviet leader who was not going by the script. 476 00:22:45,489 --> 00:22:48,408 Here was a guy who wanted to do business. 477 00:22:48,450 --> 00:22:50,410 The first indication that some progress 478 00:22:50,452 --> 00:22:52,705 may have been made at today's talks in Reykjavik 479 00:22:52,746 --> 00:22:55,415 came at a White House briefing here a few minutes ago. 480 00:22:55,457 --> 00:22:58,418 There's no prediction yet on the outcome of these talks, 481 00:22:58,460 --> 00:23:00,420 but they do give rise to some optimism. 482 00:23:00,462 --> 00:23:04,217 Stahl: I was up there as the clock was ticking down. 483 00:23:04,258 --> 00:23:06,426 They had worked and worked and worked and worked 484 00:23:06,468 --> 00:23:08,428 on an arms-control agreement, 485 00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:11,932 and at the last minute, it fell apart. 486 00:23:11,974 --> 00:23:13,433 Reporter: Mr. President! 487 00:23:13,475 --> 00:23:16,436 Reporter #2: Do you have an agreement, Mr. President? 488 00:23:16,478 --> 00:23:18,438 Do we have an agreement, sir? 489 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,024 Will you meet again? 490 00:23:20,066 --> 00:23:23,236 Buchanan: When I saw Reagan come out of that room with Gorbachev, 491 00:23:23,277 --> 00:23:26,155 his face was a mask of rage, 492 00:23:26,197 --> 00:23:29,283 and Gorbachev was very stiff walking out, 493 00:23:29,325 --> 00:23:31,244 and the guy beside me said, 494 00:23:31,285 --> 00:23:33,704 "I don't like the body language." 495 00:23:33,746 --> 00:23:36,374 Rather: President Reagan and Secretary Gorbachev 496 00:23:36,414 --> 00:23:39,043 appeared to have reached tentative agreement on much 497 00:23:39,085 --> 00:23:42,922 of a historic breakthrough arms-reduction arrangement. 498 00:23:42,963 --> 00:23:45,174 But in the end, the Soviets insisted 499 00:23:45,216 --> 00:23:48,344 that President Reagan must drop his "Star Wars" program 500 00:23:48,386 --> 00:23:49,387 to get the deal. 501 00:23:49,427 --> 00:23:51,138 President Reagan wouldn't do that. 502 00:23:51,180 --> 00:23:52,848 Adelman: The Soviets really feared 503 00:23:52,890 --> 00:23:54,892 that SDI was a lot more real than it was, 504 00:23:54,934 --> 00:23:56,685 that the Strategic Defense Initiative 505 00:23:56,727 --> 00:23:58,687 could really protect the United States. 506 00:23:58,729 --> 00:24:01,481 So it wasn't mutually assured destruction at that point. 507 00:24:01,523 --> 00:24:04,110 It was assured destruction of the Soviet Union, 508 00:24:04,151 --> 00:24:07,487 but assured protection of the United States. 509 00:24:07,529 --> 00:24:09,531 So they went crazy about SDI. 510 00:24:09,573 --> 00:24:15,495 Interpreter: The president insisted until the end 511 00:24:15,537 --> 00:24:19,541 on retaining for the United States 512 00:24:19,583 --> 00:24:25,505 the right to test things relating to SDI. 513 00:24:25,547 --> 00:24:28,301 It would've taken a madman to accept that. 514 00:24:28,342 --> 00:24:31,304 After Reykjavik, inside the United States, 515 00:24:31,345 --> 00:24:35,433 there is astonishment, and beyond that, 516 00:24:35,473 --> 00:24:39,770 fear of what Reagan has talked about doing -- 517 00:24:39,812 --> 00:24:41,521 banning nuclear weapons. 518 00:24:41,563 --> 00:24:43,149 A Reagan Administration move 519 00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:45,234 to sign an arms deal with the Soviets 520 00:24:45,276 --> 00:24:47,611 was criticized today by former President Nixon 521 00:24:47,653 --> 00:24:50,197 and former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger. 522 00:24:50,239 --> 00:24:53,326 The two men said it would be "a profound mistake" 523 00:24:53,367 --> 00:24:56,412 to eliminate all medium-range missiles in Europe. 524 00:24:56,454 --> 00:24:58,372 Many conservatives thought 525 00:24:58,414 --> 00:25:01,541 that Reagan had been charmed by Gorbachev, 526 00:25:01,583 --> 00:25:04,420 and Reagan actually had more problem 527 00:25:04,462 --> 00:25:07,547 dealing with his hard right than he did the left. 528 00:25:07,589 --> 00:25:10,801 So Reagan had to constantly let the right know, 529 00:25:10,843 --> 00:25:12,552 "I know what I'm doing." 530 00:25:12,594 --> 00:25:16,390 Reagan was being accused already of getting soft on communism, 531 00:25:16,432 --> 00:25:19,559 but he hadn't forgotten the problems we still had. 532 00:25:19,601 --> 00:25:22,980 Europe is still divided, there was still a Berlin Wall. 533 00:25:23,022 --> 00:25:24,606 [ Crowd cheering ] 534 00:25:24,648 --> 00:25:27,609 There is one sign the Soviets can make 535 00:25:27,651 --> 00:25:29,569 that would be unmistakable, 536 00:25:29,611 --> 00:25:33,740 that would advance dramatically the cause of freedom and peace. 537 00:25:33,782 --> 00:25:37,453 Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate. 538 00:25:37,495 --> 00:25:39,246 [ Crowd cheering ] 539 00:25:41,623 --> 00:25:46,003 Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall. 540 00:25:46,045 --> 00:25:48,297 [ Crowd cheering ] 541 00:25:48,339 --> 00:25:50,299 Baker: It was perfect. It was beautiful. 542 00:25:50,341 --> 00:25:53,260 And he had to insist on keeping it in the speech. 543 00:25:53,302 --> 00:25:54,428 And he did it. 544 00:25:54,470 --> 00:25:57,181 Don't let anybody tell you it was a staffer 545 00:25:57,223 --> 00:25:59,058 or anybody else that did that. 546 00:25:59,099 --> 00:26:00,434 [ Crowd cheering ] 547 00:26:00,476 --> 00:26:02,602 Zelizer: Meanwhile, in the Soviet Union, 548 00:26:02,644 --> 00:26:04,604 Gorbachev decides to do something bold, 549 00:26:04,646 --> 00:26:07,983 and he says, "Let's separate SDI 550 00:26:08,025 --> 00:26:10,277 from reducing the nuclear stockpile." 551 00:26:10,319 --> 00:26:11,611 Once he does this, 552 00:26:11,653 --> 00:26:14,448 it opens up the possibility for a third summit. 553 00:26:14,490 --> 00:26:17,410 This week's summit may prove especially important -- 554 00:26:17,451 --> 00:26:18,618 even historic. 555 00:26:18,660 --> 00:26:21,330 For the first time since the onset of the nuclear age, 556 00:26:21,372 --> 00:26:24,041 the United States and the Soviet Union will sign 557 00:26:24,083 --> 00:26:28,128 a treaty actually reducing the number of nuclear missiles. 558 00:26:28,170 --> 00:26:30,630 The INF agreement involved the elimination 559 00:26:30,672 --> 00:26:32,299 of an entire class of weapons -- 560 00:26:32,341 --> 00:26:34,634 the intermediate-range ballistic missiles. 561 00:26:34,676 --> 00:26:37,054 And it changes the nature of arms control 562 00:26:37,096 --> 00:26:39,932 because you went from arms control to arms reduction. 563 00:26:39,973 --> 00:26:42,476 You are now getting rid of nuclear weapons. 564 00:26:42,518 --> 00:26:44,478 Jennings: Many American conservatives are afraid 565 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,314 that Mr. Reagan is too anxious for an arms-control agreement 566 00:26:47,356 --> 00:26:50,234 to ensure his place in the history books 567 00:26:50,276 --> 00:26:51,444 as a peacemaker. 568 00:26:51,485 --> 00:26:54,071 Well, I haven't changed from the time 569 00:26:54,113 --> 00:26:57,032 when I made a speech about an evil empire. 570 00:26:57,074 --> 00:27:03,080 And I think I could sum up my own position in this 571 00:27:03,122 --> 00:27:08,835 with the recitation of a very brief Russian proverb. 572 00:27:08,877 --> 00:27:11,380 "Doveryai, no proveryai." 573 00:27:11,422 --> 00:27:14,341 It means "Trust, but verify." 574 00:27:14,383 --> 00:27:16,594 [ Fanfare ] 575 00:27:25,185 --> 00:27:28,897 The importance of this treaty transcends numbers. 576 00:27:28,939 --> 00:27:32,692 We have listened to the wisdom in an old Russian maxim, 577 00:27:32,734 --> 00:27:34,861 "Doveryai, no proveryai" -- 578 00:27:34,903 --> 00:27:37,114 "Trust, but verify." 579 00:27:37,156 --> 00:27:39,533 [ Laughter ] 580 00:27:39,575 --> 00:27:41,535 [ Interpreter speaking Russian ] 581 00:27:41,577 --> 00:27:43,912 [ Speaking Russian ] 582 00:27:43,954 --> 00:27:45,789 You repeat that at every meeting. 583 00:27:45,831 --> 00:27:47,791 [ Laughter ] 584 00:27:47,833 --> 00:27:49,084 [ Applause ] 585 00:27:49,126 --> 00:27:50,294 I like it. 586 00:27:50,336 --> 00:27:51,795 [ Laughter ] 587 00:27:51,837 --> 00:27:54,714 Hoffman: The improbability of either of them -- 588 00:27:54,756 --> 00:27:58,177 Reagan, the Cold War hawk, Gorbachev, the party guy -- 589 00:27:58,218 --> 00:28:00,179 doing this kind of thing, it's just unheard of. 590 00:28:00,220 --> 00:28:01,639 And they did it. 591 00:28:01,679 --> 00:28:07,019 Zelizer: Reagan had been at a low in 1987 with Iran Contra, 592 00:28:07,060 --> 00:28:08,728 and many Americans didn't like him, 593 00:28:08,770 --> 00:28:10,147 they didn't trust him. 594 00:28:10,189 --> 00:28:12,650 The negotiations with the Soviet Union, 595 00:28:12,690 --> 00:28:14,734 in many ways, saved his presidency. 596 00:28:14,776 --> 00:28:17,737 Jennings: Well, Mr. Gorbachev may not have seen much of America, 597 00:28:17,779 --> 00:28:21,158 but he certainly made sure that a lot of Americans saw him. 598 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,161 Motorcades don't very often turn a lot of heads in this city, 599 00:28:24,203 --> 00:28:27,747 but when they stop on a dime, so does everyone else. 600 00:28:27,789 --> 00:28:30,584 Man: I would like to say hello to you. 601 00:28:30,626 --> 00:28:32,378 I want to say hello to you. 602 00:28:32,419 --> 00:28:33,420 Woman: That was very special. 603 00:28:33,462 --> 00:28:35,005 He didn't have to do it, and he did it. 604 00:28:35,047 --> 00:28:36,590 I am very surprised and pleased. 605 00:28:36,632 --> 00:28:38,133 Reporter: What do you think of Gorbachev? 606 00:28:38,175 --> 00:28:39,759 The guy is a P.R. genius. 607 00:28:39,801 --> 00:28:43,180 I mean, jumping out of the car like that -- unbelievable. 608 00:28:43,222 --> 00:28:45,807 Bierbauer: Congressional leaders say they gave President Reagan 609 00:28:45,849 --> 00:28:48,810 a round of applause at a morning after the summit meeting, 610 00:28:48,852 --> 00:28:50,770 but there was caution against euphoria. 611 00:28:50,812 --> 00:28:52,648 Well, it was sort of a love feast this morning. 612 00:28:52,690 --> 00:28:54,274 Everybody applauded when the president came in. 613 00:28:54,316 --> 00:28:55,775 Reporter: The president has now said 614 00:28:55,817 --> 00:28:56,985 that Gorbachev's a different leader, 615 00:28:57,027 --> 00:28:58,654 that he no longer wants world domination. 616 00:28:58,696 --> 00:28:59,779 Do you agree? 617 00:28:59,821 --> 00:29:01,865 It's one thing to sign the INF agreement. 618 00:29:01,907 --> 00:29:04,993 It's something else to follow through on a number of areas. 619 00:29:05,035 --> 00:29:06,412 I still don't trust him. 620 00:29:10,999 --> 00:29:13,586 Brokaw: Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev tonight 621 00:29:13,627 --> 00:29:15,671 is saying that the war in Afghanistan 622 00:29:15,713 --> 00:29:17,464 is about to come to an end. 623 00:29:17,506 --> 00:29:20,050 Gilmour: Today's announcement seems to be another indication 624 00:29:20,092 --> 00:29:21,468 of how anxious the Soviets are 625 00:29:21,510 --> 00:29:23,803 to get themselves out of Afghanistan, 626 00:29:23,845 --> 00:29:26,265 out of a war they have not been able to win, 627 00:29:26,306 --> 00:29:29,518 out of a war that has proven too costly to continue. 628 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,520 Because of Afghanistan, 629 00:29:31,562 --> 00:29:34,690 communism was no longer affordable. 630 00:29:34,732 --> 00:29:38,611 The idea of promoting your ideology around the world, 631 00:29:38,652 --> 00:29:41,905 defending its interests became too expensive. 632 00:29:41,947 --> 00:29:44,324 White House officials are thrilled at the idea 633 00:29:44,366 --> 00:29:46,493 that when the president arrives in Moscow 634 00:29:46,535 --> 00:29:48,621 for a summit with Gorbachev in late May, 635 00:29:48,662 --> 00:29:51,248 it now appears that the Soviets will have already begun 636 00:29:51,290 --> 00:29:52,832 their pullout from Afghanistan. 637 00:29:52,874 --> 00:29:55,127 [ Fanfare ] 638 00:29:59,172 --> 00:30:01,049 [ Crowd cheering ] 639 00:30:04,094 --> 00:30:07,889 Troy: Ronald Reagan built his career saying communism is evil. 640 00:30:07,931 --> 00:30:11,851 And the notion that five years after his "evil empire" speech, 641 00:30:11,893 --> 00:30:17,107 Ronald Reagan lands in Moscow and is welcomed and is greeted 642 00:30:17,149 --> 00:30:18,692 is mind-blowing. 643 00:30:18,734 --> 00:30:21,528 And just about like every other American tourist 644 00:30:21,570 --> 00:30:22,780 who comes to Moscow, 645 00:30:22,821 --> 00:30:25,865 President Reagan today toured Red Square, 646 00:30:25,907 --> 00:30:28,910 which is the historic center of this capital, of course. 647 00:30:28,952 --> 00:30:33,165 He had the best possible tour guide -- Mikhail Gorbachev. 648 00:30:33,206 --> 00:30:35,917 Donaldson: So friendly was it all that at one point, 649 00:30:35,959 --> 00:30:38,504 President Reagan threw his arm around Gorbachev 650 00:30:38,545 --> 00:30:39,879 and, at another point, 651 00:30:39,921 --> 00:30:43,342 completely took back his "evil empire" pronouncement. 652 00:30:43,383 --> 00:30:46,886 Reporter: Do you still think you're in an evil empire, Mr. President? 653 00:30:46,928 --> 00:30:48,096 No. 654 00:30:48,138 --> 00:30:49,264 Why not? 655 00:30:49,306 --> 00:30:52,559 I was talking about another time and another era. 656 00:30:52,601 --> 00:30:57,356 The warmonger Reagan is essentially saying 657 00:30:57,397 --> 00:31:01,901 the Cold War looks as if it's coming to an end. 658 00:31:01,943 --> 00:31:05,698 President Reagan: Freedom is the recognition that no single person, 659 00:31:05,739 --> 00:31:08,325 no single authority or government 660 00:31:08,367 --> 00:31:10,410 has a monopoly on the truth. 661 00:31:10,452 --> 00:31:11,995 It is the right 662 00:31:12,037 --> 00:31:15,915 to put forth an idea scoffed at by the experts 663 00:31:15,957 --> 00:31:19,670 and watch it catch fire among the people. 664 00:31:24,049 --> 00:31:26,176 Petersen: In Gorbachev's Soviet Union, 665 00:31:26,218 --> 00:31:28,178 food has become even harder to get. 666 00:31:28,220 --> 00:31:31,724 Once, there was a selection -- maybe two or three cheeses. 667 00:31:31,765 --> 00:31:33,392 Now there is only one. 668 00:31:33,433 --> 00:31:36,395 There is a dangerous undertone to the complaints. 669 00:31:36,436 --> 00:31:40,940 "We ate better," they say, "in the days of Brezhnev." 670 00:31:40,982 --> 00:31:43,402 There was stress in the Soviet system 671 00:31:43,443 --> 00:31:45,863 because they were trying to change it 672 00:31:45,904 --> 00:31:47,947 in a system that was unchangeable 673 00:31:47,989 --> 00:31:51,117 and unable to adapt to a modern world. 674 00:31:51,159 --> 00:31:53,161 Gorbachev thought the United States 675 00:31:53,203 --> 00:31:54,538 is so far ahead of him, 676 00:31:54,580 --> 00:31:56,582 the Soviet system is so far behind, 677 00:31:56,623 --> 00:31:59,042 "We need to accelerate the reforms." 678 00:31:59,084 --> 00:32:03,422 Interpreter: Today, I can report to you that the Soviet Union 679 00:32:03,463 --> 00:32:07,593 has taken a decision to reduce its armed forces. 680 00:32:07,634 --> 00:32:09,344 Within the next two years, 681 00:32:09,386 --> 00:32:13,014 their numerical strength will be reduced by 500,000 men. 682 00:32:13,056 --> 00:32:15,475 The numbers of conventional armaments 683 00:32:15,517 --> 00:32:17,477 will also be substantially reduced. 684 00:32:17,519 --> 00:32:21,648 Service: Gorbachev was relaxing the Soviets' grip on Eastern Europe. 685 00:32:21,690 --> 00:32:24,984 They didn't really have much choice about this, 686 00:32:25,026 --> 00:32:28,988 because they couldn't bail out the East European economies. 687 00:32:29,030 --> 00:32:31,283 So what were they gonna do? 688 00:32:31,324 --> 00:32:34,077 Mann: The impact in the United States 689 00:32:34,119 --> 00:32:37,038 is that finally, the critics of Reagan -- 690 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,417 and this is in the final month of his presidency -- 691 00:32:40,459 --> 00:32:45,046 acknowledge that things are fundamentally changing. 692 00:32:45,088 --> 00:32:47,633 [ Applause ] 693 00:32:47,674 --> 00:32:49,008 Jennings: In China today, 694 00:32:49,050 --> 00:32:51,303 change in the name of democracy was the issue. 695 00:32:51,344 --> 00:32:53,889 More than 100,000 people defied the government 696 00:32:53,931 --> 00:32:56,516 and took to the streets, demanding democratic reform. 697 00:32:56,558 --> 00:33:00,687 Mann: In Beijing, the demonstrations grow and they grow and they grow 698 00:33:00,729 --> 00:33:04,065 to the point where they reach a couple million people. 699 00:33:04,107 --> 00:33:09,404 And in the middle of all this, in comes Mikhail Gorbachev. 700 00:33:09,446 --> 00:33:10,864 This was gonna be a visit 701 00:33:10,906 --> 00:33:12,908 in which the Chinese Communist Party 702 00:33:12,950 --> 00:33:15,953 hoped to improve its relations with the Soviets. 703 00:33:15,994 --> 00:33:18,079 As the sun rose here, it was clear 704 00:33:18,121 --> 00:33:20,916 that the Chinese students' protest for democracy 705 00:33:20,958 --> 00:33:24,043 is still gaining strength and urgency. 706 00:33:24,085 --> 00:33:26,129 Students are dropping from exhaustion, 707 00:33:26,171 --> 00:33:29,341 some now are vowing to die if necessary. 708 00:33:29,382 --> 00:33:32,511 Naftali: The Chinese leadership didn't know what to do 709 00:33:32,552 --> 00:33:35,054 but recognized that they couldn't reform 710 00:33:35,096 --> 00:33:37,641 the way that they were being pushed to reform. 711 00:33:37,683 --> 00:33:40,644 They couldn't allow this challenge to their authority. 712 00:33:40,686 --> 00:33:43,062 Thompson: The Soviet leader largely ducked questions 713 00:33:43,104 --> 00:33:44,857 on China's student issue. 714 00:33:44,898 --> 00:33:46,900 "I cannot be the judge," he said. 715 00:33:46,942 --> 00:33:48,694 Forrest Sawyer: In China tonight, 716 00:33:48,735 --> 00:33:51,738 the government declared martial law in central Beijing. 717 00:33:51,780 --> 00:33:55,074 Ominously, foreign journalists face severe new restrictions 718 00:33:55,116 --> 00:33:56,743 that amount to a news blackout. 719 00:33:56,785 --> 00:33:59,663 Chinoy: There is chaos in Tiananmen Square. 720 00:33:59,705 --> 00:34:03,291 There are bodies and injured and dead all over the place, 721 00:34:03,333 --> 00:34:06,085 and there is no way to ascertain for sure 722 00:34:06,127 --> 00:34:10,465 how many people have been killed or wounded. 723 00:34:10,507 --> 00:34:13,176 Mann: China is now restored 724 00:34:13,218 --> 00:34:19,182 into a deeply repressive Leninist regime. 725 00:34:19,224 --> 00:34:23,102 It's a question both in Moscow and throughout Eastern Europe -- 726 00:34:23,144 --> 00:34:25,981 "What's Gorbachev's attitude going to be 727 00:34:26,023 --> 00:34:29,359 towards people who want to change the communist system?" 728 00:34:32,153 --> 00:34:34,031 Brokaw: While China's communist rulers 729 00:34:34,072 --> 00:34:35,908 were brutally cracking down on democracy, 730 00:34:35,949 --> 00:34:37,617 Poland's communist leaders today 731 00:34:37,659 --> 00:34:39,745 were accepting a form of democracy -- 732 00:34:39,786 --> 00:34:42,121 the results of parliamentary elections -- 733 00:34:42,163 --> 00:34:45,751 and admitting that solidarity was the big winner. 734 00:34:45,792 --> 00:34:49,212 Ensor: For solidarity supporters, the taste of victory is sweet. 735 00:34:49,254 --> 00:34:52,131 The numbers are overwhelming. 736 00:34:52,173 --> 00:34:53,341 In a dramatic announcement, 737 00:34:53,383 --> 00:34:55,719 the government conceded defeat in the election 738 00:34:55,761 --> 00:34:58,137 and promised continued reforms. 739 00:34:58,179 --> 00:34:59,932 Stupendous! 740 00:34:59,973 --> 00:35:01,516 First time it had ever happened 741 00:35:01,558 --> 00:35:06,063 in East European communist history. 742 00:35:06,104 --> 00:35:08,565 And this was contagious. 743 00:35:08,607 --> 00:35:11,150 One of our producers from "Prime Time Live" 744 00:35:11,192 --> 00:35:13,737 went into East Germany posing as a tourist. 745 00:35:13,779 --> 00:35:16,073 Our producer took a home video camera, 746 00:35:16,114 --> 00:35:19,492 went to Leipzig, and found an incredible scene there. 747 00:35:21,912 --> 00:35:24,873 [ People screaming ] 748 00:35:24,915 --> 00:35:26,332 Mann: In East Germany, 749 00:35:26,374 --> 00:35:31,004 you see a series of demonstrations for change, 750 00:35:31,046 --> 00:35:33,423 and the question becomes, 751 00:35:33,465 --> 00:35:37,636 Are these demonstrations gonna be repressed and wiped out? 752 00:35:37,677 --> 00:35:39,638 What is Gorbachev gonna do? 753 00:35:39,679 --> 00:35:41,556 Petersen: This was the show 754 00:35:41,598 --> 00:35:44,434 of Mikhail Gorbachev's show-and-tell day, 755 00:35:44,476 --> 00:35:46,561 the guest of East German leader Erich Honecker 756 00:35:46,603 --> 00:35:49,856 at a military parade through the heart of East Berlin. 757 00:35:49,898 --> 00:35:51,357 He preached reform, 758 00:35:51,399 --> 00:35:54,360 and he offered a Gorbachev proverb. 759 00:35:54,402 --> 00:35:56,113 "Those being late," he said, 760 00:35:56,154 --> 00:35:58,197 "will be punished by life itself." 761 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,702 Baker: Gorbachev felt like he could put a happy face on socialism, 762 00:36:02,744 --> 00:36:04,287 that he could modify it. 763 00:36:04,329 --> 00:36:07,373 But the freedom genie got out of the bottle, 764 00:36:07,415 --> 00:36:09,459 and he couldn't put it back in. 765 00:36:09,501 --> 00:36:12,838 Overseas, time has finally run out for Erich Honecker, 766 00:36:12,879 --> 00:36:15,214 the 77-year-old leader of East Germany. 767 00:36:15,256 --> 00:36:17,216 Honecker resigned today. 768 00:36:17,258 --> 00:36:19,845 The official reason given was poor health, 769 00:36:19,886 --> 00:36:23,222 but growing political unrest made today's change inevitable. 770 00:36:23,264 --> 00:36:25,725 Jennings: The people have their government on the run. 771 00:36:25,767 --> 00:36:27,268 Today, in a bid to convince people 772 00:36:27,310 --> 00:36:29,062 that he's serious about reform, 773 00:36:29,104 --> 00:36:31,064 the East German leader, Egon Krenz, 774 00:36:31,106 --> 00:36:33,232 who's had the job for less than a month, 775 00:36:33,274 --> 00:36:35,234 managed to convince all the members 776 00:36:35,276 --> 00:36:37,946 of the government he inherited they should resign. 777 00:36:37,988 --> 00:36:40,490 The question is this -- What next? 778 00:36:40,532 --> 00:36:44,285 Sebestyen: The pressure on the East German government was getting enormous. 779 00:36:44,327 --> 00:36:46,663 And as part of the kind of package 780 00:36:46,705 --> 00:36:50,500 to present themselves as human, there'd been a resolution passed 781 00:36:50,542 --> 00:36:53,962 which was gonna introduce new rules about immigration. 782 00:36:54,004 --> 00:36:56,548 Gunter Schabowski went to this press conference. 783 00:36:56,589 --> 00:36:58,050 He hadn't been at the meeting, 784 00:36:58,091 --> 00:36:59,843 so he didn't really know what was in it, 785 00:36:59,885 --> 00:37:02,261 but he said, "Oh, here's something I can tell you." 786 00:37:02,303 --> 00:37:04,890 It was the biggest administrative error in history. 787 00:37:28,329 --> 00:37:29,956 Naftali: When the East German government 788 00:37:29,998 --> 00:37:31,875 just opened the window a little bit 789 00:37:31,917 --> 00:37:34,753 and said, "Well, if you want to move 790 00:37:34,794 --> 00:37:37,672 from East Germany into West Germany, you may," 791 00:37:37,714 --> 00:37:40,299 that's all people needed to hear. 792 00:37:40,341 --> 00:37:42,510 [ Indistinct talking ] 793 00:37:46,264 --> 00:37:48,391 [ Crowd chanting ] 794 00:37:52,938 --> 00:37:56,357 History turns on these magnificent little pivots. 795 00:37:56,399 --> 00:37:58,317 There are border guards 796 00:37:58,359 --> 00:38:02,321 who could've fired at these first people. 797 00:38:02,363 --> 00:38:03,949 But they didn't. 798 00:38:03,990 --> 00:38:07,953 Instead of firing on those who were coming close to the wall, 799 00:38:07,994 --> 00:38:12,165 instead of firing on them, they just let them do it. 800 00:38:12,207 --> 00:38:14,292 [ Crowd cheering ] 801 00:38:39,025 --> 00:38:40,986 Diane Sawyer: It is the sort of news 802 00:38:41,027 --> 00:38:43,362 that defies the possibility of a headline. 803 00:38:43,404 --> 00:38:45,824 What we know is that we are standing in attendance 804 00:38:45,865 --> 00:38:47,408 at a moment in history, 805 00:38:47,450 --> 00:38:49,953 as you look now at the Berlin Wall. 806 00:38:49,995 --> 00:38:51,746 Baker: We didn't really anticipate 807 00:38:51,788 --> 00:38:53,790 that the wall would come down like that. 808 00:38:53,832 --> 00:38:57,752 But there was so much pent-up emotion 809 00:38:57,794 --> 00:39:00,379 and so much of a desire for freedom 810 00:39:00,421 --> 00:39:02,381 that it just overwhelmed them. 811 00:39:02,423 --> 00:39:05,593 But it wasn't anticipated. It was a surprise. 812 00:39:05,635 --> 00:39:07,846 Powell: Our joy was just watching the Germans 813 00:39:07,887 --> 00:39:09,973 roll through that wall and knock it down, 814 00:39:10,015 --> 00:39:12,391 and start making souvenir slices in it, 815 00:39:12,433 --> 00:39:14,894 and it was just a truly exciting night, 816 00:39:14,936 --> 00:39:17,396 because we had wanted this for 40 years, 817 00:39:17,438 --> 00:39:18,857 and now it had happened. 818 00:39:18,898 --> 00:39:21,567 The longtime Communist Party leader of Bulgaria, 819 00:39:21,609 --> 00:39:23,069 Todor Zhivkov, 820 00:39:23,111 --> 00:39:27,406 suddenly and surprisingly today announced his resignation. 821 00:39:27,448 --> 00:39:30,785 It turns out that these regimes are more brittle 822 00:39:30,827 --> 00:39:32,996 than Gorbachev understood. 823 00:39:33,038 --> 00:39:34,622 And it also turned out 824 00:39:34,664 --> 00:39:37,416 that these regimes couldn't find mini Gorbachevs. 825 00:39:37,458 --> 00:39:40,920 He tried to encourage people like him 826 00:39:40,962 --> 00:39:43,798 to rise to the fore in these countries. 827 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,424 They weren't successful. 828 00:39:45,466 --> 00:39:48,678 Baker: Had Gorbachev decided to use force, 829 00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:52,598 this whole scenario would've been totally different. 830 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,809 And furthermore, the Cold War might have ended 831 00:39:54,851 --> 00:39:56,311 in a far different way. 832 00:39:56,353 --> 00:39:59,272 It might have ended with a bang and not with a whimper. 833 00:39:59,314 --> 00:40:01,107 Utley: And finally this evening, 834 00:40:01,149 --> 00:40:03,442 how can one sum up the dramatic human events 835 00:40:03,484 --> 00:40:05,362 we've lived through these last months? 836 00:40:05,403 --> 00:40:06,445 Perhaps in music. 837 00:40:06,487 --> 00:40:08,073 At a concert tonight in Berlin -- 838 00:40:08,114 --> 00:40:10,116 the conductor was Leonard Bernstein -- 839 00:40:10,158 --> 00:40:12,244 they performed Beethoven's 9th Symphony, 840 00:40:12,285 --> 00:40:13,745 climaxing in "The Ode to Joy." 841 00:40:13,786 --> 00:40:16,455 Except tonight, one word was changed. 842 00:40:16,497 --> 00:40:18,750 It became an "Ode to Freedom." 843 00:40:18,791 --> 00:40:20,877 [ "Ode to Joy" plays ] 844 00:40:35,516 --> 00:40:37,476 Reporter: The playwright and human-rights activist 845 00:40:37,518 --> 00:40:39,979 is Czechoslovakia's first non-communist president 846 00:40:40,021 --> 00:40:42,523 in 41 years. 847 00:40:42,565 --> 00:40:45,068 John Cochran: The new rulers of Romania said tonight 848 00:40:45,110 --> 00:40:48,113 that the deposed despot Nicolae Ceausescu and his wife 849 00:40:48,154 --> 00:40:50,323 were executed after a military court 850 00:40:50,365 --> 00:40:53,285 found them guilty of genocide, stealing state funds, 851 00:40:53,326 --> 00:40:55,494 and trying to escape prosecution. 852 00:40:57,163 --> 00:40:59,082 From our point of view, there is simply no argument 853 00:40:59,124 --> 00:41:03,795 about the most remarkable story of the decade -- freedom. 854 00:41:03,836 --> 00:41:07,506 In some cases, freedom which had been unthinkable 855 00:41:07,548 --> 00:41:08,925 as the decade began. 856 00:41:08,967 --> 00:41:11,928 [ "Ode to Joy" concludes ] 857 00:41:18,851 --> 00:41:20,561 [ Cheers and applause ] 69496

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