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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:10,000 - Original file by zfeet - - Resync by Ornlu Wolfjarl - 2 00:00:20,465 --> 00:00:25,833 d Catch a boat to England, baby, maybe to Spain d 3 00:00:25,932 --> 00:00:28,066 d Wherever I have gone 4 00:00:28,166 --> 00:00:31,566 d Wherever I've been and gone 5 00:00:31,666 --> 00:00:35,833 d Wherever I have gone the blues run the game. d 6 00:00:38,100 --> 00:00:41,166 TIM O'BRIEN: I grew up in a small farming community 7 00:00:41,265 --> 00:00:44,666 in southern Minnesota called Worthington. 8 00:00:44,765 --> 00:00:47,566 Small town America... at least my small town... 9 00:00:47,666 --> 00:00:50,066 had great virtues. 10 00:00:50,166 --> 00:00:51,666 It was a safe place to grow up. 11 00:00:51,766 --> 00:00:54,567 There was Little League baseball in the summer, 12 00:00:54,667 --> 00:00:57,234 and there was hockey in the winter. 13 00:00:57,334 --> 00:01:00,800 SIMON AND GARFUNKEL: d When I ain't drinkin', baby, you are on my mind. d 14 00:01:00,901 --> 00:01:04,533 O'BRIEN: Everybody knows everyone else's business and their faults 15 00:01:04,634 --> 00:01:06,834 and what's happening in their marriages 16 00:01:06,933 --> 00:01:09,901 and where the kids have gone wrong. 17 00:01:12,101 --> 00:01:15,334 It was full of the Kiwanis boys and the Elks Club 18 00:01:15,433 --> 00:01:19,533 and the country club set and the kind of chatty housewives 19 00:01:19,633 --> 00:01:22,366 and the holier-than-thou ministers. 20 00:01:22,466 --> 00:01:24,509 SIMON AND GARFUNKEL: d Wherever I've been and gone... d 21 00:01:24,533 --> 00:01:27,533 O'BRIEN: I remember the day my draft notice arrived. 22 00:01:27,633 --> 00:01:33,101 It was a summer afternoon, maybe June of '68. 23 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,766 And I remember taking that envelope into the house 24 00:01:35,866 --> 00:01:37,366 and putting it on the kitchen table 25 00:01:37,466 --> 00:01:40,334 where my mom and dad were having lunch. 26 00:01:40,433 --> 00:01:41,700 And they didn't even read it. 27 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,266 They just looked at it and knew what it was. 28 00:01:44,366 --> 00:01:46,567 And the silence of that lunch... 29 00:01:46,667 --> 00:01:50,001 I didn't speak, my mom didn't speak, my dad didn't speak... 30 00:01:50,101 --> 00:01:51,533 was just that piece of paper 31 00:01:51,634 --> 00:01:53,700 lying at the center of the table. 32 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:58,335 It was enough to make me cry to this day, not for myself, 33 00:01:58,434 --> 00:02:00,034 but for my mom and dad, 34 00:02:00,135 --> 00:02:03,635 who both of them had been in the Navy during World War II, 35 00:02:03,735 --> 00:02:07,602 had believed in service to one's country and all those values. 36 00:02:07,701 --> 00:02:11,668 HOWARD TUCKNER: ...considers all civilians potential enemies... 37 00:02:11,767 --> 00:02:17,102 O'BRIEN: On the one hand I did think the war was less than righteous. 38 00:02:19,235 --> 00:02:21,235 On the other hand I love my country. 39 00:02:21,335 --> 00:02:28,034 And I valued my life in a small town and my friends and family. 40 00:02:28,135 --> 00:02:32,267 And so the summer of '68, I wrestled with what to do, 41 00:02:32,368 --> 00:02:34,934 was for me, at least, more torturous 42 00:02:35,034 --> 00:02:39,467 and devastating and emotionally painful 43 00:02:39,568 --> 00:02:41,335 than anything that happened in Vietnam. 44 00:02:43,267 --> 00:02:48,034 In the end I just capitulated. 45 00:02:48,135 --> 00:02:54,068 And one day I got on a bus with other recent graduates, 46 00:02:54,168 --> 00:02:57,403 and we went over to Sioux Falls about 60 miles away, 47 00:02:57,502 --> 00:03:00,203 and raised our hands and got in the Army. 48 00:03:00,302 --> 00:03:03,603 But it wasn't a decision, it was a forfeiture of a decision. 49 00:03:03,703 --> 00:03:05,935 It was letting my body go, 50 00:03:06,035 --> 00:03:09,002 turning a switch in my conscience, 51 00:03:09,103 --> 00:03:10,903 just turning it off, 52 00:03:11,002 --> 00:03:14,603 so it wouldn't be barking at me saying, 53 00:03:14,703 --> 00:03:20,869 "You're doing a bad and evil and stupid and unpatriotic thing." 54 00:03:28,603 --> 00:03:32,468 Last week's casualty figures in the Vietnam War released today 55 00:03:32,569 --> 00:03:35,235 showed 299 Americans killed, the lowest figure in two months. 56 00:03:35,336 --> 00:03:37,435 ("Revolution 1" by the Beatles playing) 57 00:03:43,802 --> 00:03:47,035 (music continues, crowd shouting) 58 00:03:47,136 --> 00:03:51,468 d You say you want a revolution d 59 00:03:51,569 --> 00:03:57,302 d Well, you know 60 00:03:57,403 --> 00:04:00,236 d We all want to change the world d 61 00:04:04,137 --> 00:04:08,536 d You tell me that it's evolution d 62 00:04:08,637 --> 00:04:12,803 d Well, you know 63 00:04:12,904 --> 00:04:17,469 d We all want to change the world d 64 00:04:20,404 --> 00:04:25,837 d But when you talk about destruction d 65 00:04:25,937 --> 00:04:32,503 d Don't you know that you can count me out, in d 66 00:04:32,604 --> 00:04:37,070 d Don't you know it's gonna be all right d 67 00:04:37,169 --> 00:04:40,769 NARRATOR: By June of 1968, the spirit of revolution... 68 00:04:40,870 --> 00:04:47,769 over the Vietnam War, over injustice, over human rights... 69 00:04:47,870 --> 00:04:50,570 seemed to have spread everywhere. 70 00:04:54,269 --> 00:04:57,236 The pressure to bring an end to the war was building. 71 00:04:57,337 --> 00:04:59,936 President Lyndon Johnson had already decided 72 00:05:00,036 --> 00:05:01,737 not to run again, 73 00:05:01,838 --> 00:05:05,638 assassinations and unrest had staggered the nation, 74 00:05:05,737 --> 00:05:09,905 and the country was preparing to choose a new president. 75 00:05:11,705 --> 00:05:15,270 Meanwhile, American and North Vietnamese diplomats in Paris 76 00:05:15,371 --> 00:05:16,670 were getting nowhere. 77 00:05:16,770 --> 00:05:20,138 The communists insisted there could be 78 00:05:20,237 --> 00:05:22,537 no substantive negotiations 79 00:05:22,638 --> 00:05:27,571 until the United States stopped all bombing of North Vietnam. 80 00:05:27,670 --> 00:05:29,138 LENNON: d With minds that hate... 81 00:05:29,237 --> 00:05:31,670 NARRATOR: The new secretary of defense, Clark Clifford, 82 00:05:31,770 --> 00:05:34,004 who had turned from hawk to dove 83 00:05:34,105 --> 00:05:36,371 after just a few months in office, 84 00:05:36,470 --> 00:05:39,770 begged the president to call a total halt. 85 00:05:39,871 --> 00:05:42,638 "We can only hope for success at the bargaining table," 86 00:05:42,737 --> 00:05:44,237 he told Johnson. 87 00:05:44,338 --> 00:05:46,937 "We are in a war we cannot win." 88 00:05:47,037 --> 00:05:50,770 The president refused to stop the bombing. 89 00:05:57,504 --> 00:05:58,871 Over the following months, 90 00:05:58,970 --> 00:06:01,537 there would be reports of progress on the battlefield 91 00:06:01,638 --> 00:06:03,737 and in the countryside. 92 00:06:03,838 --> 00:06:08,505 But that progress came so slowly and at so high a cost 93 00:06:08,606 --> 00:06:12,339 in human lives that the war against the war 94 00:06:12,439 --> 00:06:14,406 intensified back home, 95 00:06:14,505 --> 00:06:19,171 pitting classes and generations against one another, 96 00:06:19,271 --> 00:06:23,106 spreading distrust of political leaders who seemed unable 97 00:06:23,206 --> 00:06:26,471 or unwilling to bring the fighting to an end. 98 00:06:30,171 --> 00:06:32,671 Young men from all over the country would continue 99 00:06:32,771 --> 00:06:34,971 to face questions and choices 100 00:06:35,072 --> 00:06:38,471 their fathers and grandfathers had rarely had to face 101 00:06:38,572 --> 00:06:41,206 when asked to fight in other wars: 102 00:06:41,305 --> 00:06:46,005 What obligation did a citizen owe his country? 103 00:06:46,106 --> 00:06:49,306 What should one do when asked to fight a war 104 00:06:49,404 --> 00:06:51,938 in which one did not believe? 105 00:06:53,404 --> 00:06:57,505 How was a soldier to distinguish between a shadowy enemy 106 00:06:57,606 --> 00:07:01,871 and the Vietnamese civilians he was supposed to be defending? 107 00:07:01,971 --> 00:07:03,572 LENNON: d Shoo-bee-do-wop 108 00:07:03,672 --> 00:07:06,206 d Oh, oh, oh, oh. 109 00:07:06,306 --> 00:07:09,607 NARRATOR: The coming summer of 1968 110 00:07:09,707 --> 00:07:12,140 would be one of the most consequential 111 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,673 in American history. 112 00:07:15,773 --> 00:07:21,939 LENNON: d All right, all right, all right, all right, all right d 113 00:07:22,039 --> 00:07:25,207 d All right, all right 114 00:07:25,307 --> 00:07:26,539 d Shoo-bee-do-wop 115 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,439 (song fades out) 116 00:07:31,607 --> 00:07:33,939 Earlier this year, top U.S. leaders vowed 117 00:07:34,039 --> 00:07:36,707 that the U.S. Marine outpost at Khe Sanh, 118 00:07:36,807 --> 00:07:41,273 then under a 77-day enemy siege, would be defended at all cost. 119 00:07:41,372 --> 00:07:42,939 (jet engine roars) 120 00:07:43,039 --> 00:07:44,607 (explosion) 121 00:07:46,472 --> 00:07:50,307 MAX CLELAND: Johnson had said in the fall of '67, 122 00:07:50,406 --> 00:07:52,439 and as we went into '68, 123 00:07:52,539 --> 00:07:55,439 "I don't want no damn Dien Bien Phu." 124 00:07:55,539 --> 00:08:00,472 So the whole American military, from the Joint Chiefs on down, 125 00:08:00,573 --> 00:08:04,406 whether they believed in saving Khe Sanh or not, 126 00:08:04,506 --> 00:08:07,573 were hell-bent for leather to make damn sure 127 00:08:07,673 --> 00:08:10,208 the siege was broken. 128 00:08:13,507 --> 00:08:16,608 Now the telltale moment of that is that a week 129 00:08:16,708 --> 00:08:17,907 after the siege was broken, 130 00:08:18,007 --> 00:08:21,507 they plowed the base under and abandoned it. 131 00:08:21,608 --> 00:08:25,708 That was Vietnam in a microcosm. 132 00:08:25,808 --> 00:08:28,007 (helicopter blades whirring) 133 00:08:28,108 --> 00:08:30,540 NARRATOR: There was a new commander in Vietnam now, 134 00:08:30,641 --> 00:08:35,507 General Creighton W. Abrams, a hero of World War II, 135 00:08:35,608 --> 00:08:38,108 a soldier's soldier, one reporter said, 136 00:08:38,208 --> 00:08:41,940 who "could inspire aggressiveness in a begonia." 137 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,308 LEWIS SORLEY: Some newsman once described him 138 00:08:44,407 --> 00:08:47,940 as looking like an unmade bed smoking a cigar. 139 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,108 He's gruff. 140 00:08:50,208 --> 00:08:51,340 He drank a lot. 141 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,873 He's grumpy in the morning. 142 00:08:53,973 --> 00:08:56,940 Sometimes staff officers would schedule appointments with him 143 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,074 in the morning 144 00:08:58,174 --> 00:09:00,094 for, with generals who were causing him trouble. 145 00:09:01,540 --> 00:09:04,674 NARRATOR: Abrams was a welcome new face for the American war. 146 00:09:04,773 --> 00:09:09,507 Reporters found him more frank and open than his predecessor. 147 00:09:09,608 --> 00:09:12,642 "The overall public affairs policy of this command," 148 00:09:12,742 --> 00:09:14,541 he told his subordinates, 149 00:09:14,642 --> 00:09:17,874 "will be to let results speak for themselves." 150 00:09:17,974 --> 00:09:21,742 "Occasionally," one officer said, "we are allowed 151 00:09:21,841 --> 00:09:26,775 to state frankly that we didn't do a damn thing this month." 152 00:09:26,874 --> 00:09:30,341 Many soldiers would believe for the rest of their lives 153 00:09:30,441 --> 00:09:33,041 that if Abrams had taken command sooner, 154 00:09:33,142 --> 00:09:35,508 the outcome could have been different. 155 00:09:42,441 --> 00:09:44,408 VINCENT OKAMOTO: You're told very succinctly, 156 00:09:44,508 --> 00:09:48,474 "We need to rack up as much body count as we can. 157 00:09:48,575 --> 00:09:51,374 How many gooks did you kill today?" 158 00:09:51,474 --> 00:09:53,809 And it was the kill ratio that determined 159 00:09:53,908 --> 00:09:56,008 whether or not you called it a victory or a loss. 160 00:09:56,109 --> 00:09:59,675 So if you killed 20 North Vietnamese 161 00:09:59,774 --> 00:10:01,874 and lost only two people, 162 00:10:01,974 --> 00:10:06,274 they declared a great victory for that particular firefight. 163 00:10:06,374 --> 00:10:11,508 NARRATOR: Lieutenant Vincent Okamoto was born during World War II 164 00:10:11,609 --> 00:10:14,209 in a Japanese-American internment camp 165 00:10:14,310 --> 00:10:19,710 at Poston, Arizona, the seventh son of Japanese immigrants. 166 00:10:19,810 --> 00:10:22,776 All six of his brothers had served in uniform... 167 00:10:22,875 --> 00:10:27,143 two fought with the celebrated 442nd Regimental Combat Team 168 00:10:27,243 --> 00:10:29,042 in Italy and France, 169 00:10:29,143 --> 00:10:32,243 the most highly decorated unit of that war... 170 00:10:32,342 --> 00:10:37,375 and so, when Okamoto's country went to war in Vietnam, 171 00:10:37,475 --> 00:10:39,576 he believed he should go, too. 172 00:10:41,409 --> 00:10:45,542 He was now a platoon leader with Bravo Company, 2nd Battalion, 173 00:10:45,643 --> 00:10:51,375 27th Regiment, 25th Infantry Division, based at Cu Chi, 174 00:10:51,475 --> 00:10:56,243 some 20 miles northwest of Saigon, an area honeycombed 175 00:10:56,342 --> 00:10:59,409 with miles of Viet Cong tunnels. 176 00:11:02,176 --> 00:11:04,676 OKAMOTO: My parents are Japanese immigrants. 177 00:11:04,775 --> 00:11:07,676 I had rice literally every day of my life 178 00:11:07,775 --> 00:11:10,975 until I went into the military. 179 00:11:12,743 --> 00:11:17,510 So we were conducting a cordon and search of a village. 180 00:11:19,510 --> 00:11:20,910 Didn't find any weapons, 181 00:11:21,010 --> 00:11:24,476 didn't find any communist literature or whatever. 182 00:11:24,577 --> 00:11:27,111 So we took a prolonged lunch break. 183 00:11:27,211 --> 00:11:30,543 Everybody wants to get out of the sun. 184 00:11:30,644 --> 00:11:33,843 Well, my RTO, my medic and I 185 00:11:33,943 --> 00:11:36,010 went into this particular house, and there was... 186 00:11:36,111 --> 00:11:39,277 there were three women, and a babe in arms, 187 00:11:39,376 --> 00:11:41,976 and a kid about four years old. 188 00:11:42,077 --> 00:11:46,043 And she was cooking... rice. 189 00:11:46,144 --> 00:11:48,410 Well, here, here's Okamoto, Mrs. Okamoto's son, 190 00:11:48,510 --> 00:11:52,211 that hadn't had rice now... hot, steamed rice... for months. 191 00:11:52,311 --> 00:11:55,043 I'm looking at it, it looks pretty good to me. 192 00:11:55,144 --> 00:11:57,077 So I-I get my interpreter. 193 00:11:57,177 --> 00:12:01,443 I said, "Hey, tell this woman, the grandma, 194 00:12:01,543 --> 00:12:04,876 "that I'll give her a pack of cigarettes, 195 00:12:04,976 --> 00:12:09,043 "my C-ration turkey loaf, and a can of peaches 196 00:12:09,144 --> 00:12:11,677 for some of that steamed rice and that fish and vegetables." 197 00:12:13,443 --> 00:12:14,543 It was great. 198 00:12:14,644 --> 00:12:16,443 And I asked for seconds. 199 00:12:16,543 --> 00:12:19,578 My RTO says, "Damn, ain't these people poor enough 200 00:12:19,678 --> 00:12:22,212 without you eating their food?" 201 00:12:22,312 --> 00:12:24,477 I said, "You know, hell, they got enough rice here 202 00:12:24,578 --> 00:12:27,178 to feed a dozen men." 203 00:12:27,278 --> 00:12:29,411 And then, it just dawned, 204 00:12:29,511 --> 00:12:31,544 they did have enough rice to feed a dozen men. 205 00:12:31,645 --> 00:12:35,444 So I had my interpreter ask the woman, 206 00:12:35,544 --> 00:12:37,612 "Who's all this rice for?" 207 00:12:37,712 --> 00:12:39,212 (speaking Vietnamese) 208 00:12:39,312 --> 00:12:40,812 "I don't know, I don't know." 209 00:12:40,911 --> 00:12:44,511 So we started looking around again. 210 00:12:44,612 --> 00:12:46,277 We found a tunnel mouth. 211 00:12:48,145 --> 00:12:50,145 I was given a grenade. 212 00:12:53,245 --> 00:12:55,877 After the smoke cleared, we pulled, I think, 213 00:12:55,977 --> 00:13:01,112 seven or eight bodies to the town square. 214 00:13:01,212 --> 00:13:06,477 And we wanted to see who would cry over these people. 215 00:13:06,578 --> 00:13:09,612 And then we'd have more people to question. 216 00:13:09,712 --> 00:13:14,044 The women that lived in that house, 217 00:13:14,145 --> 00:13:15,678 and I had eaten their rice, 218 00:13:15,778 --> 00:13:18,444 they're all squatting down, wailing. 219 00:13:18,544 --> 00:13:20,184 And you couldn't identify these, these... 220 00:13:20,245 --> 00:13:22,779 they're just charred bodies. 221 00:13:22,878 --> 00:13:24,345 Um... 222 00:13:24,445 --> 00:13:26,445 And I think that was the first time I knew 223 00:13:26,545 --> 00:13:29,179 that I personally had killed people. 224 00:13:29,279 --> 00:13:33,345 I got an "Attaboy" from the supervisor. 225 00:13:33,445 --> 00:13:34,845 But, uh... 226 00:13:34,945 --> 00:13:37,179 it wasn't something that you can say had glory in it, 227 00:13:37,279 --> 00:13:39,613 or you felt a real sense of accomplishment. 228 00:13:42,445 --> 00:13:45,613 NARRATOR: Over that summer, Okamoto was wounded two times 229 00:13:45,713 --> 00:13:48,778 and made 22 helicopter assaults, 230 00:13:48,878 --> 00:13:52,412 four of them as commander of Bravo Company. 231 00:13:52,512 --> 00:13:57,845 On the morning of August 23, he made his 23rd assault. 232 00:13:57,945 --> 00:14:02,146 Nineteen helicopters ferried the first and second platoons 233 00:14:02,246 --> 00:14:06,746 to a new landing zone near Cambodia. 234 00:14:06,845 --> 00:14:09,813 Their task was to dig in, stay put, 235 00:14:09,912 --> 00:14:13,813 and somehow block a battalion of North Vietnamese troops, 236 00:14:13,912 --> 00:14:17,113 who were trying to escape across the border. 237 00:14:17,213 --> 00:14:20,146 Okamoto's unit was reinforced by a platoon 238 00:14:20,246 --> 00:14:24,846 of mechanized infantry, three APCs, and a tank, 239 00:14:24,946 --> 00:14:29,046 but they were still badly outnumbered. 240 00:14:29,147 --> 00:14:33,114 He and the fewer than 150 men under his command 241 00:14:33,214 --> 00:14:36,180 spent the rest of that day and all of the next 242 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,446 preparing as best they could for an attack, 243 00:14:39,546 --> 00:14:41,280 setting Claymore mines 244 00:14:41,379 --> 00:14:44,879 and hanging three coils of razor wire. 245 00:14:47,946 --> 00:14:50,614 OKAMOTO: August the 24th, about 10:00 that night, 246 00:14:50,714 --> 00:14:54,247 we got hit with a very heavy mortar barrage. 247 00:14:54,346 --> 00:14:55,614 (shouting, explosions) 248 00:14:55,714 --> 00:14:59,214 Within the first I would say ten seconds, 249 00:14:59,314 --> 00:15:02,846 all three of those armored personnel carriers and tanks 250 00:15:02,946 --> 00:15:05,346 were knocked out with rocket-propelled grenades. 251 00:15:09,114 --> 00:15:12,513 NARRATOR: Trip flares briefly lit up the landscape. 252 00:15:12,614 --> 00:15:15,247 Scores of enemy troops were running at them 253 00:15:15,346 --> 00:15:17,346 through the elephant grass. 254 00:15:17,447 --> 00:15:18,614 (gunfire) 255 00:15:18,712 --> 00:15:23,646 VC mortar shells blasted two gaps in the razor wire. 256 00:15:23,747 --> 00:15:27,414 If Okamoto and his outnumbered men couldn't plug them, 257 00:15:27,515 --> 00:15:29,980 they were sure to be overrun. 258 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,815 He and the four men closest to him held their M-16s 259 00:15:33,914 --> 00:15:37,780 above their heads and fired blindly. 260 00:15:37,881 --> 00:15:40,547 The enemy kept coming. 261 00:15:40,647 --> 00:15:42,280 OKAMOTO: I had my four people. 262 00:15:42,381 --> 00:15:45,847 And through the light of the flares, I said, 263 00:15:45,948 --> 00:15:47,815 "A couple you guys go and man the machine guns 264 00:15:47,914 --> 00:15:49,315 out on those APCs." 265 00:15:49,414 --> 00:15:51,480 Well, the response I got was, like, uh... 266 00:15:51,580 --> 00:15:53,448 "Fuck you, I ain't going up there." 267 00:15:55,147 --> 00:15:59,647 So I ran to the first armored personnel carrier, and I... 268 00:15:59,748 --> 00:16:03,248 pulled the, the gunner out of the turret, dead. 269 00:16:03,347 --> 00:16:06,815 I jumped in there, manned the machine gun, 270 00:16:06,914 --> 00:16:09,647 and fired until it ran out of ammo. 271 00:16:09,748 --> 00:16:13,615 NARRATOR: Okamoto moved to the second disabled APC 272 00:16:13,714 --> 00:16:17,580 and then the third, emptying their guns. 273 00:16:17,681 --> 00:16:20,881 OKAMOTO: And they were still coming at us. 274 00:16:20,980 --> 00:16:24,615 So I crawled out there, till I was about ten meters from 'em. 275 00:16:24,714 --> 00:16:28,280 And I killed 'em with hand grenades. 276 00:16:28,381 --> 00:16:31,081 NARRATOR: Two enemy grenades fell near him 277 00:16:31,182 --> 00:16:33,648 and he managed to throw both back. 278 00:16:33,749 --> 00:16:37,481 But a third landed just beyond his reach. 279 00:16:37,581 --> 00:16:41,215 Shrapnel fragments peppered his legs and back. 280 00:16:43,182 --> 00:16:46,148 OKAMOTO: I just knew for sure I was going to die. 281 00:16:46,249 --> 00:16:48,281 "Okamoto, you're not going to make it out of here. 282 00:16:48,382 --> 00:16:49,616 "Mom's going to take it hard, 283 00:16:49,715 --> 00:16:52,915 but, you know, you're not going to make it out of here." 284 00:16:53,016 --> 00:16:54,348 And that's liberating. 285 00:16:54,449 --> 00:16:56,781 When you know you're going to die, you don't... 286 00:16:56,882 --> 00:16:58,215 the fear leaves. 287 00:16:58,316 --> 00:17:00,116 At least in my case, I was no longer afraid. 288 00:17:00,215 --> 00:17:02,292 I was just mad because here are all these little guys 289 00:17:02,316 --> 00:17:05,348 trying to kill my ass. 290 00:17:05,449 --> 00:17:07,281 And if that's the case, 291 00:17:07,382 --> 00:17:10,182 then I'm going to make it as tough on them as I possibly can 292 00:17:10,281 --> 00:17:11,281 before I go down. 293 00:17:13,981 --> 00:17:16,848 I killed a lot of brave men that night. 294 00:17:16,949 --> 00:17:19,081 And I rationalized that by telling myself, 295 00:17:19,182 --> 00:17:22,016 "Well, maybe what you did... just maybe... 296 00:17:22,116 --> 00:17:24,581 saved the lives of a couple of your people." 297 00:17:28,449 --> 00:17:32,282 NARRATOR: During the night, the enemy had slipped into Cambodia, 298 00:17:32,383 --> 00:17:35,750 dragging as many of their dead with them as they could. 299 00:17:38,517 --> 00:17:42,916 A third of Okamoto's company had been lost. 300 00:17:43,017 --> 00:17:45,417 ("The Lord Is in This Place" by Fairport Convention playing) 301 00:17:45,450 --> 00:17:46,950 For his efforts that day, 302 00:17:47,049 --> 00:17:50,883 Vincent Okamoto received the Distinguished Service Cross, 303 00:17:50,982 --> 00:17:54,450 the Army's second highest honor. 304 00:17:54,549 --> 00:17:56,950 Before his tour of duty ended, 305 00:17:57,049 --> 00:18:00,950 he would become the most highly decorated Japanese-American 306 00:18:01,049 --> 00:18:03,750 to survive the Vietnam War. 307 00:18:06,582 --> 00:18:08,183 OKAMOTO: You know what? 308 00:18:08,282 --> 00:18:09,683 (sighs) 309 00:18:09,782 --> 00:18:12,183 The real heroes are the men that died. 310 00:18:15,649 --> 00:18:19,250 19-, 20-year-old high school dropouts. 311 00:18:19,349 --> 00:18:21,683 They didn't have escape routes that the elite 312 00:18:21,782 --> 00:18:25,450 and the wealthy and the privileged had. 313 00:18:25,549 --> 00:18:26,549 And that was unfair. 314 00:18:29,617 --> 00:18:32,383 And so they looked upon military service as... 315 00:18:32,482 --> 00:18:34,149 (sighs) 316 00:18:34,250 --> 00:18:35,818 ...like the weather. 317 00:18:35,917 --> 00:18:37,783 You had to go in, and you'd do it. 318 00:18:39,717 --> 00:18:44,184 But to see these kids, who had the least to gain, 319 00:18:44,283 --> 00:18:45,693 there wasn't anything to look forward to; 320 00:18:45,717 --> 00:18:47,083 they weren't going to be rewarded 321 00:18:47,184 --> 00:18:50,150 for their service in Vietnam. 322 00:18:50,251 --> 00:18:55,884 And yet their infinite patience, their loyalty to each other, 323 00:18:55,983 --> 00:19:00,384 their courage under fire was just phenomenal. 324 00:19:01,583 --> 00:19:04,018 And you would ask yourself, 325 00:19:04,118 --> 00:19:07,983 "How does America produce young men like this?" 326 00:19:47,885 --> 00:19:51,885 NARRATOR: At first, Radio Hanoi had portrayed the Tet Offensive 327 00:19:51,984 --> 00:19:54,752 as a series of "tremendous victories" 328 00:19:54,851 --> 00:19:58,351 in which "hundreds of thousands of people have risen up 329 00:19:58,452 --> 00:20:02,452 and destroyed enemy positions." 330 00:20:02,551 --> 00:20:06,351 "But after a couple of weeks," one North Vietnamese remembered, 331 00:20:06,452 --> 00:20:09,252 "we didn't hear any more news. 332 00:20:09,351 --> 00:20:11,619 "The Saigon regime was still there 333 00:20:11,718 --> 00:20:14,984 "and the U.S. planes were still bombing. 334 00:20:15,084 --> 00:20:18,784 It was obvious the radio wasn't telling the truth." 335 00:20:23,284 --> 00:20:26,019 Casualty figures were never revealed, 336 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,718 but to North Vietnamese citizens secretly listening to reports 337 00:20:29,819 --> 00:20:32,418 on the BBC and Radio Saigon, 338 00:20:32,519 --> 00:20:35,784 it was clear that they had been heavy. 339 00:21:37,453 --> 00:21:42,887 NARRATOR: In late August 1968, Le Duan and the North Vietnamese leadership 340 00:21:42,986 --> 00:21:45,954 launched still another offensive. 341 00:21:46,053 --> 00:21:49,754 The result was the same as Tet and Mini-Tet. 342 00:21:51,521 --> 00:21:57,086 They lost 17,000 more men. 343 00:21:57,187 --> 00:21:59,986 Thousands of fresh recruits had to be ordered south 344 00:22:00,086 --> 00:22:02,254 to replace them. 345 00:22:02,353 --> 00:22:04,954 "The war began to seem like an open pit," 346 00:22:05,053 --> 00:22:07,521 one North Vietnamese remembered. 347 00:22:07,621 --> 00:22:11,754 "The more young people were lost there, the more they sent." 348 00:22:13,153 --> 00:22:15,454 The sons of some party officials 349 00:22:15,553 --> 00:22:19,353 and their friends were sent abroad to escape the draft. 350 00:22:19,454 --> 00:22:21,687 University students were exempted. 351 00:22:21,786 --> 00:22:24,353 People with money bribed recruiters 352 00:22:24,454 --> 00:22:26,720 to overlook their offspring 353 00:22:26,821 --> 00:22:30,586 or paid physicians to declare them unfit to serve. 354 00:22:47,921 --> 00:22:50,755 NARRATOR: Most draftees were poor people from the countryside, 355 00:22:50,854 --> 00:22:53,721 especially receptive to the slogans 356 00:22:53,822 --> 00:22:57,455 and promises of the revolution. 357 00:22:57,554 --> 00:22:59,755 Thousands of replacements made their way 358 00:22:59,854 --> 00:23:01,721 down the Ho Chi Minh Trail 359 00:23:01,822 --> 00:23:05,154 past burned-out vehicles and military graveyards, 360 00:23:05,255 --> 00:23:09,421 the stones neatly marked with the names of the dead 361 00:23:09,522 --> 00:23:11,854 and the date each had died. 362 00:23:13,854 --> 00:23:17,022 They encountered small groups of wounded men 363 00:23:17,122 --> 00:23:19,455 moving in the other direction. 364 00:23:19,554 --> 00:23:22,255 Those without arms walked. 365 00:23:22,354 --> 00:23:25,154 Legless men rode in camouflaged trucks. 366 00:23:25,255 --> 00:23:27,688 There were blinded soldiers 367 00:23:27,787 --> 00:23:31,987 and others who had been hideously burned by napalm. 368 00:23:32,087 --> 00:23:34,587 "You'll see all kinds of pleasures in the South," 369 00:23:34,688 --> 00:23:39,221 the weary wounded told the young men moving toward the war. 370 00:23:39,322 --> 00:23:42,721 "Everyone was frightened," a political officer remembered, 371 00:23:42,822 --> 00:23:45,822 "especially when we met those men. 372 00:23:45,921 --> 00:23:49,055 It was like looking at our future selves." 373 00:23:52,788 --> 00:23:55,256 The youngest delegate of the New Jersey delegation 374 00:23:55,355 --> 00:23:57,889 casts his vote for the next president of the United States, 375 00:23:57,988 --> 00:23:59,023 Richard Nixon. 376 00:23:59,123 --> 00:24:02,788 We've got 18. 377 00:24:02,889 --> 00:24:04,922 David, we doubled it, 18. 378 00:24:05,023 --> 00:24:07,456 NARRATOR: Richard Nixon had been a prominent 379 00:24:07,555 --> 00:24:10,488 and controversial figure in American politics 380 00:24:10,588 --> 00:24:13,488 for more than two decades. 381 00:24:13,588 --> 00:24:15,855 He'd been a congressman and senator, 382 00:24:15,956 --> 00:24:18,922 best known for his fierce anticommunism, 383 00:24:19,023 --> 00:24:21,222 then served eight years 384 00:24:21,323 --> 00:24:24,389 as Dwight Eisenhower's vice president. 385 00:24:24,488 --> 00:24:27,355 He narrowly lost the presidential race 386 00:24:27,456 --> 00:24:30,222 to John Kennedy in 1960 387 00:24:30,323 --> 00:24:32,488 and was defeated again two years later 388 00:24:32,588 --> 00:24:35,722 trying to become governor of California. 389 00:24:35,823 --> 00:24:39,988 His career seemed to be over. 390 00:24:40,088 --> 00:24:44,123 But then, in one of the most extraordinary comebacks 391 00:24:44,222 --> 00:24:46,355 in U.S. political history, 392 00:24:46,456 --> 00:24:48,788 he had outsmarted and out-maneuvered 393 00:24:48,889 --> 00:24:50,757 and out-campaigned his rivals 394 00:24:50,856 --> 00:24:55,556 to win the 1968 Republican nomination. 395 00:24:55,656 --> 00:24:57,489 MAN: Richard M. Nixon... 396 00:24:57,589 --> 00:24:59,089 (cheering and applause) 397 00:25:02,156 --> 00:25:05,024 His pick for vice president was the tough-talking 398 00:25:05,124 --> 00:25:09,390 but largely unknown governor of Maryland, Spiro Agnew. 399 00:25:11,457 --> 00:25:13,457 Nixon made the case for himself 400 00:25:13,556 --> 00:25:17,089 as the man who could bring a fractured America together 401 00:25:17,190 --> 00:25:21,124 and bring an honorable end to the war. 402 00:25:21,223 --> 00:25:24,856 When the strongest nation in the world can be tied down 403 00:25:24,957 --> 00:25:28,856 for four years in a war in Vietnam with no end in sight; 404 00:25:28,957 --> 00:25:30,832 when the richest nation in the world can't manage 405 00:25:30,856 --> 00:25:32,757 its own economy; 406 00:25:32,856 --> 00:25:34,757 when the nation with the greatest tradition 407 00:25:34,856 --> 00:25:38,624 of the rule of law is plagued by unprecedented lawlessness; 408 00:25:38,723 --> 00:25:41,923 when a nation that has been known for a century 409 00:25:42,024 --> 00:25:43,423 for equality of opportunity 410 00:25:43,524 --> 00:25:46,923 is torn by unprecedented racial violence; 411 00:25:47,024 --> 00:25:49,089 and when the president of the United States 412 00:25:49,190 --> 00:25:52,857 cannot travel abroad or to any major city at home 413 00:25:52,958 --> 00:25:55,557 without fear of a hostile demonstration, 414 00:25:55,657 --> 00:25:58,025 then it's time for new leadership 415 00:25:58,125 --> 00:25:59,825 for the United States of America. 416 00:25:59,924 --> 00:26:02,025 (cheering) 417 00:26:08,758 --> 00:26:10,758 Good evening from Chicago, 418 00:26:10,857 --> 00:26:13,057 where the 35th National Democratic Convention 419 00:26:13,157 --> 00:26:16,691 opens tomorrow with the promise of turmoil inside this hall 420 00:26:16,790 --> 00:26:18,657 and a threat of violence without. 421 00:26:18,758 --> 00:26:22,590 JOHN LAURENCE: Both sides moved in their troops on a balmy Sunday morning 422 00:26:22,691 --> 00:26:24,891 for the confrontation of Chicago. 423 00:26:24,990 --> 00:26:26,958 Some 6,000 crack Army troops, 424 00:26:27,057 --> 00:26:29,857 riot trained and ready for action... 425 00:26:29,958 --> 00:26:33,490 The Army soldiers moved out to secret locations around the city 426 00:26:33,590 --> 00:26:36,157 after one of the largest troop movements in domestic history. 427 00:26:38,825 --> 00:26:42,990 NARRATOR: Some 15,000 protestors had gathered in Chicago, 428 00:26:43,090 --> 00:26:46,490 most to register their anguish over the war... 429 00:26:48,724 --> 00:26:51,724 Some bent on disrupting the convention. 430 00:26:54,991 --> 00:26:58,759 Richard J. Daley, the Democratic mayor of Chicago, 431 00:26:58,858 --> 00:27:02,692 was determined that there be no trouble in his city. 432 00:27:04,459 --> 00:27:08,791 Twelve thousand Chicago policemen were on alert. 433 00:27:08,892 --> 00:27:12,225 In addition to the 6,000 U.S. Army troops, 434 00:27:12,326 --> 00:27:16,091 there were 6,000 more armed National Guardsmen 435 00:27:16,192 --> 00:27:20,058 and a thousand intelligence agents from the FBI, 436 00:27:20,158 --> 00:27:23,291 the CIA, and the military. 437 00:27:24,725 --> 00:27:27,558 Mayor Daley cordoned off the Chicago Amphitheater 438 00:27:27,658 --> 00:27:29,192 where the convention was being held 439 00:27:29,291 --> 00:27:32,725 and denied the protestors permits to march 440 00:27:32,826 --> 00:27:35,425 or to sleep in the city's parks. 441 00:27:36,759 --> 00:27:38,701 INTERVIEWER: Are you planning to go without the permit 442 00:27:38,725 --> 00:27:39,858 if you don't get the permit? 443 00:27:39,959 --> 00:27:41,326 RENNIE DAVIS: Given the fact 444 00:27:41,425 --> 00:27:44,991 that for many months we have notified this city 445 00:27:45,091 --> 00:27:48,826 and this nation that we wish to hold a demonstration, 446 00:27:48,925 --> 00:27:50,692 an assembly in Chicago 447 00:27:50,791 --> 00:27:53,291 to register our convictions about the war, 448 00:27:53,392 --> 00:27:56,791 the tens of thousands of people coming to the city of Chicago 449 00:27:56,893 --> 00:27:58,659 constitute a permit. 450 00:28:00,726 --> 00:28:02,893 Our fight is with the militarism 451 00:28:02,992 --> 00:28:04,693 that is developing in this country 452 00:28:04,792 --> 00:28:07,627 in the response to legitimate political and social grievances 453 00:28:07,726 --> 00:28:09,592 by bringing in troops 454 00:28:09,693 --> 00:28:12,559 rather than dealing with the real issues and real problems. 455 00:28:16,059 --> 00:28:18,299 CRONKITE: In the name of security, freedom of the press, 456 00:28:18,327 --> 00:28:20,559 freedom of movement, perhaps as far 457 00:28:20,659 --> 00:28:22,693 as the demonstrators themselves are concerned, 458 00:28:22,792 --> 00:28:26,893 even freedom of speech have been severely restricted here. 459 00:28:26,992 --> 00:28:32,059 A democratic convention is about to begin in a police state. 460 00:28:32,159 --> 00:28:34,726 There just doesn't seem to be any other way to say it. 461 00:28:36,893 --> 00:28:39,327 JOHN BAILEY: Will the delegates please be seated. 462 00:28:39,426 --> 00:28:41,359 NARRATOR: Vice President Hubert Humphrey, 463 00:28:41,460 --> 00:28:44,893 President Johnson's chosen successor, was the frontrunner. 464 00:28:44,992 --> 00:28:49,127 He had always been a hero to his party's liberal wing, 465 00:28:49,226 --> 00:28:52,127 but because he had loyally supported the president 466 00:28:52,226 --> 00:28:56,092 and the war, many delegates, and most of the demonstrators 467 00:28:56,193 --> 00:29:00,328 outside the convention hall, backed his antiwar rival, 468 00:29:00,427 --> 00:29:03,194 Senator Eugene McCarthy. 469 00:29:03,293 --> 00:29:06,394 (muffled shouting on megaphone) 470 00:29:06,493 --> 00:29:08,961 On the second night of the convention, 471 00:29:09,060 --> 00:29:11,128 the police drove hundreds of demonstrators 472 00:29:11,227 --> 00:29:15,093 out of Lincoln Park with clubs and tear gas. 473 00:29:15,194 --> 00:29:16,860 (sirens wailing) 474 00:29:20,461 --> 00:29:23,237 JOHN CHANCELLOR: The delegates wearing bands of black crepe on their arms... 475 00:29:23,261 --> 00:29:26,427 NARRATOR: The next afternoon, the Democrats heatedly debated 476 00:29:26,528 --> 00:29:31,028 a plank in the party platform calling for an end to the war. 477 00:29:31,128 --> 00:29:34,628 When Humphrey supporters voted it down, 478 00:29:34,727 --> 00:29:38,394 the antiwar delegates erupted. 479 00:29:38,493 --> 00:29:40,969 CHANCELLOR: ...who have joined New York in this extraordinary demonstration 480 00:29:40,993 --> 00:29:45,493 of antiwar sentiment on the convention floor. 481 00:29:45,593 --> 00:29:47,569 ("Street Fighting Man" by the Rolling Stones playing) 482 00:29:47,593 --> 00:29:49,836 DOUGLAS KIKER (on TV): The demonstrators resisted when police attempted to arrest 483 00:29:49,860 --> 00:29:52,160 a young man who tried to rip down an American flag. 484 00:29:52,261 --> 00:29:54,360 PROTESTOR: Watch... watch these fuckers. 485 00:29:54,461 --> 00:29:56,293 Don't turn your back on these fuckers! 486 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,029 MICK JAGGER: d Everywhere I hear the sound of marching... d 487 00:30:03,129 --> 00:30:04,470 PHILIP CAPUTO: The cops were all... 488 00:30:04,494 --> 00:30:06,054 they were guys from the neighborhoods... 489 00:30:06,129 --> 00:30:09,728 Italians, Polish guys, Irish guys. 490 00:30:09,829 --> 00:30:12,161 Probably some of them had been in Vietnam. 491 00:30:12,262 --> 00:30:13,762 And if they hadn't been, 492 00:30:13,861 --> 00:30:17,895 they certainly had cousins or brothers who were. 493 00:30:17,994 --> 00:30:22,294 NARRATOR: Philip Caputo, who had fought with the Marines in Vietnam, 494 00:30:22,395 --> 00:30:24,195 was now a reporter, 495 00:30:24,294 --> 00:30:28,195 assigned to cover the conflict in American streets. 496 00:30:28,294 --> 00:30:31,094 Get a picture of them throwing the rocks! 497 00:30:33,228 --> 00:30:35,195 CAPUTO: So all of a sudden the streets are filled 498 00:30:35,294 --> 00:30:37,462 with these kids who don't look like college kids 499 00:30:37,561 --> 00:30:40,061 are supposed to look in the cops' view. 500 00:30:40,161 --> 00:30:41,962 (protestors shouting, sirens wailing) 501 00:30:42,061 --> 00:30:43,661 (explosion) 502 00:30:43,762 --> 00:30:45,442 And some of them were committing vandalism 503 00:30:45,529 --> 00:30:49,228 and yelling obscenities. 504 00:30:49,329 --> 00:30:52,794 And I think a lot of policemen saw that 505 00:30:52,895 --> 00:30:59,161 as abusing the privileges that they had and scorning them. 506 00:30:59,262 --> 00:31:00,661 They are provoking us 507 00:31:00,762 --> 00:31:03,695 but we do not want to confront them now... move back, please. 508 00:31:03,794 --> 00:31:05,995 JAGGER: d Well, then what can a poor boy do d 509 00:31:06,095 --> 00:31:09,795 d Except to sing for a rock 'n' roll band d 510 00:31:09,896 --> 00:31:12,662 d 'Cause in sleepy London town 511 00:31:12,763 --> 00:31:16,062 d There's just no place for a street fighting man d 512 00:31:16,162 --> 00:31:20,729 (police chanting): Move back! Move back! 513 00:31:23,530 --> 00:31:25,995 (screaming) 514 00:31:32,463 --> 00:31:38,130 That's a report, on film, from Grant Park, downtown Chicago. 515 00:31:40,396 --> 00:31:42,763 NARRATOR: That evening, thousands of demonstrators, 516 00:31:42,862 --> 00:31:45,963 barred from getting anywhere near the convention, 517 00:31:46,062 --> 00:31:49,963 were marching toward Democratic Party headquarters 518 00:31:50,062 --> 00:31:53,196 in the Hilton Hotel on Michigan Avenue instead. 519 00:31:53,295 --> 00:31:56,696 ALINE SAARINEN: The marchers seem to have come from everywhere 520 00:31:56,795 --> 00:32:00,229 and now are coming up south on Michigan Avenue 521 00:32:00,330 --> 00:32:01,696 back toward the point where 522 00:32:01,795 --> 00:32:05,630 the police were blocking them before. 523 00:32:07,730 --> 00:32:09,173 NATIONAL GUARDSMAN: Get your hands up! 524 00:32:09,197 --> 00:32:10,730 Hands up! 525 00:32:10,831 --> 00:32:12,063 Come on! 526 00:32:12,163 --> 00:32:15,031 (shouting) 527 00:32:20,063 --> 00:32:21,897 Come on now! Go! Go! 528 00:32:21,996 --> 00:32:25,696 I place before you for the Democratic nomination 529 00:32:25,797 --> 00:32:28,496 as president of the United States 530 00:32:28,596 --> 00:32:32,864 the name of Senator Eugene J. McCarthy of Minnesota. 531 00:32:32,964 --> 00:32:37,031 (cheers and applause) 532 00:32:37,131 --> 00:32:41,364 Downtown Chicago at Balbo and Michigan Avenues, 533 00:32:41,464 --> 00:32:45,131 there has been in progress for some time a peace demonstration. 534 00:32:45,230 --> 00:32:47,496 The police have come to put it down. 535 00:32:47,596 --> 00:32:50,096 The National Guard has been called to help. 536 00:32:50,196 --> 00:32:53,596 (crowd chanting "sieg heil" at police) 537 00:33:01,096 --> 00:33:05,096 (chanting continues) 538 00:33:05,196 --> 00:33:09,432 (siren wails) 539 00:33:10,764 --> 00:33:15,997 (screaming) 540 00:33:16,097 --> 00:33:17,597 MAN: Get him! 541 00:33:17,697 --> 00:33:20,231 Get him! Get him! 542 00:33:28,798 --> 00:33:30,731 GABE PRESSMAN: ...people screaming... 543 00:33:30,831 --> 00:33:32,240 JAMES WILLBANKS: I turned on the television. 544 00:33:32,264 --> 00:33:34,108 I don't think I was too particularly thoughtful 545 00:33:34,132 --> 00:33:35,432 as a junior in college, 546 00:33:35,532 --> 00:33:38,798 but I thought the country was coming apart at the seams. 547 00:33:38,898 --> 00:33:41,032 It looked like we were devolving into madness. 548 00:33:42,798 --> 00:33:46,664 And I couldn't tell, was it protestors or the police 549 00:33:46,764 --> 00:33:47,764 or was everybody insane? 550 00:33:47,831 --> 00:33:51,664 (crowd chanting) 551 00:33:51,764 --> 00:33:53,465 (gavel pounding) 552 00:33:53,564 --> 00:33:56,197 NARRATOR: At the convention there was more confusion. 553 00:33:56,298 --> 00:33:59,298 Some antiwar delegates once pledged 554 00:33:59,398 --> 00:34:02,597 to the murdered Robert Kennedy now threw their support 555 00:34:02,697 --> 00:34:04,697 behind yet another candidate, 556 00:34:04,798 --> 00:34:08,398 South Dakota senator George McGovern. 557 00:34:08,497 --> 00:34:11,731 ABRAHAM RIBICOFF: And with George McGovern as president of the United States, 558 00:34:11,831 --> 00:34:15,732 we wouldn't have to have Gestapo tactics 559 00:34:15,832 --> 00:34:19,598 in the streets of Chicago. 560 00:34:19,698 --> 00:34:26,366 (crowd reacts boisterously) 561 00:34:26,466 --> 00:34:28,799 PRESSMAN: The persistent chanting by the crowd, 562 00:34:28,899 --> 00:34:31,098 "The whole world is watching." 563 00:34:31,198 --> 00:34:34,399 NARRATOR: LBJ, watching the chaos on television, 564 00:34:34,498 --> 00:34:36,366 considered flying to Chicago 565 00:34:36,466 --> 00:34:39,598 and getting back in the race himself. 566 00:34:39,698 --> 00:34:42,633 Mayor Daley told the president he'd have enough delegates 567 00:34:42,732 --> 00:34:44,533 to win the nomination, 568 00:34:44,633 --> 00:34:48,933 but the Secret Service warned it could not guarantee his safety. 569 00:34:53,399 --> 00:34:57,899 RON FERRIZZI: I got to Australia the last week of August 1968... R&R. 570 00:34:57,998 --> 00:35:00,498 I never really wanted to go on R&R. 571 00:35:00,598 --> 00:35:03,098 I felt that, how can you relax? 572 00:35:03,198 --> 00:35:06,866 So I turn on the TV and the first scene... 573 00:35:06,966 --> 00:35:09,133 The TV gets bright. 574 00:35:09,232 --> 00:35:11,732 The first scene on... it was the camera... 575 00:35:11,832 --> 00:35:15,733 was a close-up, was over the shoulder of this storm trooper 576 00:35:15,833 --> 00:35:18,034 who had a kid by the scruff of his shirt. 577 00:35:18,134 --> 00:35:20,666 And he smacks him with his bat. 578 00:35:20,766 --> 00:35:23,766 And there's blood and everything and all this jumble. 579 00:35:23,867 --> 00:35:26,534 And then the camera pans out and it's far away. 580 00:35:26,634 --> 00:35:28,276 And these riots and there's fighting going on. 581 00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:29,867 And I go, "Oh, my God, 582 00:35:29,967 --> 00:35:31,666 the Russians invaded Czechoslovakia." 583 00:35:31,766 --> 00:35:34,666 And then ditto, ditto, ditto, "Chicago Democratic Convention, 584 00:35:34,766 --> 00:35:36,534 United States of America." 585 00:35:36,634 --> 00:35:39,134 And I said... you know, at that moment my... 586 00:35:39,233 --> 00:35:41,134 I-I was politicized. 587 00:35:41,233 --> 00:35:44,099 ("For What It's Worth" by Buffalo Springfield playing) 588 00:35:51,099 --> 00:35:55,266 d There's somethin' happenin' here d 589 00:35:55,367 --> 00:35:58,499 d What it is ain't exactly clear d 590 00:35:58,599 --> 00:36:00,367 FERRIZZI: At that moment in time, 591 00:36:00,467 --> 00:36:03,534 I realized that anybody who really cared for America 592 00:36:03,634 --> 00:36:06,900 was sent halfway around the world chasing some ghost 593 00:36:06,999 --> 00:36:09,900 in the jungle, killing somebody else's grandmother 594 00:36:09,999 --> 00:36:11,900 for no reason at all. 595 00:36:11,999 --> 00:36:14,142 BUFFALO SPRINGFIELD: d What's that sound, everybody look what's going down d 596 00:36:14,166 --> 00:36:17,801 FERRIZZI: And, in the meantime, my country's being torn apart. 597 00:36:17,901 --> 00:36:19,767 So I saw somebody who looked like my dad 598 00:36:19,868 --> 00:36:21,308 hitting somebody who looked like me. 599 00:36:21,401 --> 00:36:25,301 Oh, my God, whose side would I be on? 600 00:36:25,401 --> 00:36:28,734 BUFFALO SPRINGFIELD: d There's battle lines being drawn d 601 00:36:28,834 --> 00:36:35,100 d Nobody's right if everybody's wrong d 602 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,968 d Young people speakin' their minds d 603 00:36:39,067 --> 00:36:43,035 d Getting so much resistance from behind d 604 00:36:43,135 --> 00:36:44,135 d It's time we stop 605 00:36:44,234 --> 00:36:45,801 NARRATOR: In the end, 606 00:36:45,901 --> 00:36:48,868 Humphrey won the nomination on the first ballot. 607 00:36:48,968 --> 00:36:51,435 He told the press how pleased he was, 608 00:36:51,535 --> 00:36:55,567 but he confessed to his wife that the convention had left him 609 00:36:55,667 --> 00:36:59,500 feeling heartbroken, battered, and beaten, 610 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,734 as if he'd survived a shipwreck. 611 00:37:03,767 --> 00:37:06,368 A presidential commission would declare what had happened 612 00:37:06,468 --> 00:37:10,700 in Chicago a "police riot," but in a Gallup poll, 613 00:37:10,801 --> 00:37:14,135 56% of Americans approved 614 00:37:14,234 --> 00:37:17,868 of the way the police had handled the demonstrators. 615 00:37:17,968 --> 00:37:22,136 And when Richard Nixon chose to open his campaign 616 00:37:22,235 --> 00:37:24,402 with a motorcade through the Chicago Loop, 617 00:37:24,501 --> 00:37:29,036 nearly half a million Chicagoans turned out to cheer him. 618 00:37:36,201 --> 00:37:38,136 MICHAEL HOLMES (on tape): Hello, Mom, Pop. 619 00:37:38,235 --> 00:37:40,436 I really can't tell you too much about this country 620 00:37:40,536 --> 00:37:42,201 except the rice paddies stink. 621 00:37:42,302 --> 00:37:46,568 And it's just miles and miles of nothing but rice paddies. 622 00:37:46,668 --> 00:37:48,068 And they got dikes in them. 623 00:37:48,168 --> 00:37:49,168 Real cool looking. 624 00:37:49,201 --> 00:37:50,802 We go through them with our APCs 625 00:37:50,902 --> 00:37:53,268 and tear them down and everything else. 626 00:37:53,369 --> 00:37:57,369 ("Road to Marscota" by Peter Walker playing) 627 00:37:57,469 --> 00:38:01,436 NARRATOR: On August 29, the day after police and demonstrators clashed 628 00:38:01,536 --> 00:38:05,302 in Chicago, 20-year-old private Michael Holmes 629 00:38:05,402 --> 00:38:08,735 arrived in Vietnam. 630 00:38:08,835 --> 00:38:12,768 He was born and brought up in the tiny town of Williamsville, 631 00:38:12,869 --> 00:38:15,469 in the heart of the Missouri Ozarks. 632 00:38:15,568 --> 00:38:17,969 His father and mother ran the general store 633 00:38:18,068 --> 00:38:20,701 where Michael worked every day after school. 634 00:38:20,802 --> 00:38:24,736 He floated the rivers, hunted deer and squirrels, 635 00:38:24,836 --> 00:38:27,836 and was going steady with a girl named Darlene. 636 00:38:27,937 --> 00:38:31,836 He had trouble keeping up in high school, 637 00:38:31,937 --> 00:38:35,470 did not complete community college and, as a result, 638 00:38:35,569 --> 00:38:39,502 was immediately drafted into the Army. 639 00:38:39,602 --> 00:38:44,637 In Vietnam, he was assigned to F Troop, 17th Armored Cavalry, 640 00:38:44,736 --> 00:38:48,102 196th Light Infantry Brigade, 641 00:38:48,202 --> 00:38:50,769 stationed at an isolated firebase 642 00:38:50,870 --> 00:38:56,002 22 miles south of Danang called Baldy. 643 00:38:56,102 --> 00:38:58,537 HOLMES (on tape): So you ask what the size of Baldy was. 644 00:38:58,637 --> 00:39:01,437 Well, it's just about as big as Williamsville 645 00:39:01,537 --> 00:39:04,702 and maybe a little bit bigger. 646 00:39:04,803 --> 00:39:09,002 I sent you a picture of me and a bunch of the other guys. 647 00:39:12,870 --> 00:39:14,602 It's not really that bad. 648 00:39:14,702 --> 00:39:16,336 It's... in a way I like it. 649 00:39:16,437 --> 00:39:18,470 It's just being away from home 650 00:39:18,569 --> 00:39:20,303 and everything that I don't like. 651 00:39:23,537 --> 00:39:27,404 NARRATOR: In Williamsville, family and friends gathered to listen 652 00:39:27,503 --> 00:39:29,871 to Michael's reports from Vietnam 653 00:39:29,971 --> 00:39:34,237 and to fill him in on what was happening back home. 654 00:39:34,337 --> 00:39:37,304 WOMAN (on tape): We're all down here at your dad and mother's tonight 655 00:39:37,404 --> 00:39:40,603 and we thought we'd all say something for you. 656 00:39:40,703 --> 00:39:45,603 And you could hear our voice and feel like you's back home. 657 00:39:45,703 --> 00:39:46,603 And we're looking forward... 658 00:39:46,703 --> 00:39:48,038 HAROLD (on tape): Hello, Mike. 659 00:39:48,138 --> 00:39:49,947 I've been doing a lot of squirrel hunting lately, 660 00:39:49,971 --> 00:39:52,103 and killing quite a few. 661 00:39:52,203 --> 00:39:55,471 Well, the Ozarks really look beautiful this time of year. 662 00:39:55,570 --> 00:39:56,871 Looking forward to seeing you. 663 00:39:56,971 --> 00:39:58,611 JERRY (on tape): Uh, this is Jerry, Mike. 664 00:39:58,670 --> 00:40:01,871 I think Ricky and Carol broke up, Mike. 665 00:40:01,971 --> 00:40:03,770 Ricky, he's really prowling now. 666 00:40:03,871 --> 00:40:06,670 GLENDA (on tape): Mike, this is Glenda. 667 00:40:06,770 --> 00:40:09,971 Um, I got a boyfriend, and his name's Danny. 668 00:40:10,070 --> 00:40:11,270 And... 669 00:40:11,371 --> 00:40:13,003 GLEN (on tape): Mike, this is Glen. 670 00:40:13,103 --> 00:40:15,438 All these other boys been talking about hunting, 671 00:40:15,538 --> 00:40:17,270 I'm gonna talk about girls. 672 00:40:17,371 --> 00:40:20,203 (chuckling): Girls and fast cars. 673 00:40:20,304 --> 00:40:23,270 Gene Bilbury got him a new Bonneville. 674 00:40:23,371 --> 00:40:26,770 MICHAEL'S MOTHER (on tape): Michael, this is Mother. 675 00:40:26,872 --> 00:40:30,238 The picture you sent us was real good, it looked just like you. 676 00:40:30,338 --> 00:40:34,204 I even liked that moustache, and I didn't think I would. 677 00:40:34,305 --> 00:40:35,805 And we miss you a lot. 678 00:40:35,905 --> 00:40:37,848 MICHAEL'S FATHER (on tape): This is your dad talking. 679 00:40:37,872 --> 00:40:42,671 We think that you'll be okay, just don't be nosing around 680 00:40:42,771 --> 00:40:45,305 where you don't have any business 681 00:40:45,405 --> 00:40:48,805 and get hold of a booby trap or something. 682 00:40:48,905 --> 00:40:52,972 This is about the end of this tape, so goodbye for now. 683 00:41:02,071 --> 00:41:05,872 HOLMES (on tape): We burned down a whole lot of hooches today 684 00:41:05,972 --> 00:41:09,139 of these people who don't cooperate with us, you know. 685 00:41:09,238 --> 00:41:10,918 Yeah, I don't I don't really understand it 686 00:41:11,004 --> 00:41:16,238 because if, if they are, you know, not VC, 687 00:41:16,338 --> 00:41:19,372 and we do that to them, you know, treat them bad, 688 00:41:19,472 --> 00:41:21,439 then they're gonna turn VC. 689 00:41:21,539 --> 00:41:23,071 The Army does everything backward. 690 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,772 NARRATOR: One morning that fall, several APCs from F Troop 691 00:41:33,873 --> 00:41:36,839 moved cautiously up Highway One toward Danang. 692 00:41:36,940 --> 00:41:41,339 Michael Holmes rode in the second vehicle. 693 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,140 (explosion) 694 00:41:50,105 --> 00:41:54,839 His APC hit a 300-pound bomb buried beneath the road. 695 00:41:54,940 --> 00:41:58,239 Three of his friends died instantly. 696 00:41:58,339 --> 00:42:00,672 Holmes was thrown clear 697 00:42:00,772 --> 00:42:05,072 and woke up five hours later in the hospital. 698 00:42:08,205 --> 00:42:10,272 HOLMES (on tape): Hello, Mom, Pop. 699 00:42:10,373 --> 00:42:11,640 This is me. 700 00:42:11,739 --> 00:42:13,605 Up to this point I didn't know 701 00:42:13,705 --> 00:42:16,973 if there was really a war going on over here. 702 00:42:17,072 --> 00:42:20,873 I just thought maybe they was playing a game or something. 703 00:42:20,973 --> 00:42:24,505 But I could've reached out and touched two of those people. 704 00:42:24,605 --> 00:42:26,640 I knew them real good. 705 00:42:26,739 --> 00:42:28,315 And please don't worry about me getting hurt 706 00:42:28,339 --> 00:42:31,406 because I'm not hurt all that bad. 707 00:42:31,505 --> 00:42:34,807 Two more Purple Hearts and I'm out of the field, 708 00:42:34,907 --> 00:42:38,673 and I think maybe I get to get out of the country altogether. 709 00:42:44,106 --> 00:42:49,474 NARRATOR: Six months later, Michael Holmes was on patrol, walking point, 710 00:42:49,573 --> 00:42:53,740 when he was killed by a North Vietnamese soldier. 711 00:43:02,173 --> 00:43:04,240 LIZ TROTTA: This is Long An province. 712 00:43:04,340 --> 00:43:07,673 Since 1962, it has been an important testing ground 713 00:43:07,773 --> 00:43:09,874 for the pacification program. 714 00:43:09,974 --> 00:43:14,773 Amidst the flat rice fields and coconut trees lies Loc Tien Mot. 715 00:43:14,874 --> 00:43:18,441 The hamlet chief says only more troops will make his people safe 716 00:43:18,541 --> 00:43:20,240 from the Viet Cong. 717 00:43:20,340 --> 00:43:21,606 During the night, he adds, 718 00:43:21,706 --> 00:43:24,840 the guerrillas go from house to house collecting taxes. 719 00:43:24,941 --> 00:43:28,773 The government may have left its traces of pacification. 720 00:43:28,874 --> 00:43:30,773 The Viet Cong have not left. 721 00:43:30,874 --> 00:43:34,006 Liz Trotta, NBC News, South Vietnam. 722 00:43:35,642 --> 00:43:38,308 NARRATOR: Since the Viet Cong had been so badly weakened 723 00:43:38,408 --> 00:43:41,942 in the Tet Offensive and the two offensives that followed it, 724 00:43:42,042 --> 00:43:43,808 General Abrams believed 725 00:43:43,908 --> 00:43:46,507 that hundreds of thousands of ARVN troops 726 00:43:46,607 --> 00:43:49,308 could now be freed to secure the countryside 727 00:43:49,408 --> 00:43:52,274 and win support for the government in Saigon. 728 00:43:54,142 --> 00:43:57,107 But permanent security was not possible 729 00:43:57,207 --> 00:44:00,442 unless the Viet Cong political infrastructure... 730 00:44:00,542 --> 00:44:03,341 the tax collectors and village chiefs, 731 00:44:03,442 --> 00:44:06,274 runners and spies and sympathizers... 732 00:44:06,375 --> 00:44:11,207 were killed, captured, or persuaded to defect. 733 00:44:11,308 --> 00:44:17,475 To do that, the CIA had created the Phoenix Program. 734 00:44:17,574 --> 00:44:20,542 RICHARD THRELKELD: The villagers of Thuy Xuan have been assembled 735 00:44:20,642 --> 00:44:22,341 in the village schoolyard, 736 00:44:22,442 --> 00:44:25,841 where teams of government interrogators are trying 737 00:44:25,942 --> 00:44:28,475 to pick out from among them the members of the Viet Cong 738 00:44:28,574 --> 00:44:30,375 who live here. 739 00:44:30,475 --> 00:44:33,741 This sort of Phoenix exercise is a weekly event 740 00:44:33,841 --> 00:44:36,707 in districts throughout South Vietnam. 741 00:44:39,242 --> 00:44:41,075 NARRATOR: After recovering from his wounds, 742 00:44:41,175 --> 00:44:45,108 Lieutenant Vincent Okamoto became an intelligence officer 743 00:44:45,208 --> 00:44:48,409 attached to the program. 744 00:44:48,508 --> 00:44:49,885 The Phoenix Program was premised on the fact 745 00:44:49,909 --> 00:44:52,119 that the North Vietnamese coming down the Ho Chi Minh Trail, 746 00:44:52,143 --> 00:44:53,675 when they went into South Vietnam, 747 00:44:53,775 --> 00:44:55,318 they were strangers, just like the Americans. 748 00:44:55,342 --> 00:44:58,876 They didn't know the terrain, they didn't know the people. 749 00:44:58,976 --> 00:45:02,309 So in order for them to function operationally, 750 00:45:02,409 --> 00:45:04,643 they needed the Viet Cong infrastructure. 751 00:45:04,742 --> 00:45:09,075 And so the project was to eliminate those guys. 752 00:45:09,175 --> 00:45:11,809 And I think it made a great deal of sense. 753 00:45:13,809 --> 00:45:17,008 STUART HERRINGTON: The communists thought Phoenix was very effective. 754 00:45:17,108 --> 00:45:19,608 They saw it as a significant threat 755 00:45:19,708 --> 00:45:22,008 to the viability of the revolution 756 00:45:22,108 --> 00:45:26,575 because to the extent that you could take a sharp pointed knife 757 00:45:26,675 --> 00:45:28,376 and carve out the Viet Cong, 758 00:45:28,476 --> 00:45:30,675 the shadow Viet Cong, the shadow government, 759 00:45:30,775 --> 00:45:33,943 then their means of control over the civilian population 760 00:45:34,043 --> 00:45:36,108 in the South was dealt a death blow. 761 00:45:38,409 --> 00:45:41,377 NARRATOR: The pressure the Phoenix Program put on the Viet Cong 762 00:45:41,477 --> 00:45:45,676 caused dangerous signs of what one communist official described 763 00:45:45,776 --> 00:45:49,910 as "wavering" among his followers in the Mekong Delta... 764 00:45:50,009 --> 00:45:53,709 depression, discouragement, and widespread drunkenness 765 00:45:53,810 --> 00:45:57,877 even among men going into battle. 766 00:45:59,343 --> 00:46:03,276 But Phoenix's targeting was only as good as the intelligence 767 00:46:03,377 --> 00:46:08,743 upon which it was based, and that varied widely. 768 00:46:08,843 --> 00:46:12,243 DAVID CULHANE: This film, made by a CBS stringer cameraman 769 00:46:12,343 --> 00:46:15,444 some weeks ago shows South Vietnamese forces 770 00:46:15,544 --> 00:46:16,843 interrogating an old man 771 00:46:16,944 --> 00:46:19,176 identified as a minor VC official. 772 00:46:21,477 --> 00:46:22,719 NARRATOR: In the Phoenix Program, 773 00:46:22,743 --> 00:46:26,810 Americans served in an advisory capacity; 774 00:46:26,910 --> 00:46:30,144 most of the day-to-day enforcement was left to 775 00:46:30,243 --> 00:46:33,644 the South Vietnamese Provincial Reconnaissance Units... 776 00:46:33,743 --> 00:46:35,676 the PRUs... 777 00:46:35,776 --> 00:46:38,109 who sometimes were more interested 778 00:46:38,209 --> 00:46:42,744 in settling old scores than in rooting out communists. 779 00:46:44,610 --> 00:46:47,677 OKAMOTO: It was scary because it was subject to abuse, 780 00:46:47,777 --> 00:46:51,045 and was abused. 781 00:46:51,145 --> 00:46:55,811 Again, the geniuses in Saigon would use their computers 782 00:46:55,911 --> 00:46:59,445 to come up with the blacklists. 783 00:47:01,445 --> 00:47:04,045 You get the list, and you check with other intelligence officers 784 00:47:04,145 --> 00:47:06,077 in the district. 785 00:47:06,177 --> 00:47:08,945 And you try to pool that information. 786 00:47:09,045 --> 00:47:11,077 Next night, or a couple nights later, 787 00:47:11,177 --> 00:47:13,710 a bunch of cowboys from the PRUs would go out there. 788 00:47:13,811 --> 00:47:17,411 And, you know, knock on the door, 789 00:47:17,510 --> 00:47:18,811 "April Fool, motherfucker!" 790 00:47:18,911 --> 00:47:19,911 And boom. 791 00:47:21,545 --> 00:47:23,145 There wasn't any real accountability. 792 00:47:26,411 --> 00:47:29,077 NARRATOR: Later, the director of the Phoenix Program 793 00:47:29,177 --> 00:47:32,645 admitted to Congress that no one knew how many 794 00:47:32,744 --> 00:47:37,344 of the more than 20,000 who had been killed were innocent. 795 00:47:39,478 --> 00:47:41,710 And although the program did succeed 796 00:47:41,811 --> 00:47:44,646 in degrading the Viet Cong infrastructure, 797 00:47:44,745 --> 00:47:47,412 the government of Nguyen Van Thieu remained 798 00:47:47,511 --> 00:47:49,511 as unpopular as ever. 799 00:47:52,412 --> 00:47:55,778 A poll taken in the Delta province of Long An 800 00:47:55,879 --> 00:48:00,211 would show 35% of the people ready to vote for Thieu, 801 00:48:00,312 --> 00:48:04,312 20% favoring the National Liberation Front, 802 00:48:04,412 --> 00:48:09,245 and 45% backing someone, anyone, 803 00:48:09,345 --> 00:48:11,745 opposed to both the Viet Cong 804 00:48:11,845 --> 00:48:15,711 and the American-backed regime in Saigon. 805 00:48:20,345 --> 00:48:21,879 MAN: In Vietnam there's a wound 806 00:48:21,979 --> 00:48:24,078 that does not cease its bleeding. 807 00:48:24,178 --> 00:48:29,711 I'm talking about the scream of death and the wound of war. 808 00:48:29,812 --> 00:48:31,778 We did not come to talk with you, Mr. Humphrey. 809 00:48:31,879 --> 00:48:33,711 We have come to arrest you. 810 00:48:33,812 --> 00:48:35,379 Now you've had equal time. 811 00:48:35,479 --> 00:48:36,312 Shut up! 812 00:48:36,412 --> 00:48:38,312 (mixture of boos and cheers) 813 00:48:38,412 --> 00:48:42,046 NARRATOR: Hubert Humphrey's presidential campaign was in trouble. 814 00:48:42,146 --> 00:48:45,546 Richard Nixon was comfortably ahead in the polls 815 00:48:45,646 --> 00:48:47,512 and refused to debate. 816 00:48:47,612 --> 00:48:50,179 "I've come to the conclusion 817 00:48:50,279 --> 00:48:52,246 that there's no way to win the war," 818 00:48:52,346 --> 00:48:55,846 he told three of his speechwriters in private. 819 00:48:55,947 --> 00:48:57,779 "But we have to say the opposite, 820 00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,980 just to keep some bargaining leverage." 821 00:49:01,079 --> 00:49:05,380 Compounding Humphrey's problem was a third-party candidate, 822 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:06,880 George Wallace, 823 00:49:06,980 --> 00:49:10,047 the segregationist former governor of Alabama. 824 00:49:10,147 --> 00:49:13,547 He was sure to peel away some white voters 825 00:49:13,647 --> 00:49:16,980 who normally voted Democratic. 826 00:49:17,079 --> 00:49:21,147 Humphrey had confided his doubts about the war to Johnson 827 00:49:21,246 --> 00:49:25,447 early on, but had always remained stubbornly loyal to him 828 00:49:25,547 --> 00:49:26,813 in public. 829 00:49:26,913 --> 00:49:30,712 Now his advisors told him that if he wanted to win 830 00:49:30,813 --> 00:49:33,012 he had to break with the president 831 00:49:33,112 --> 00:49:36,779 and make a bold gesture toward ending the war. 832 00:49:38,612 --> 00:49:41,712 On September 30, he called for a total halt 833 00:49:41,813 --> 00:49:44,547 to the bombing of North Vietnam. 834 00:49:44,647 --> 00:49:47,079 HUMPHREY: I would stop the bombing of the North 835 00:49:47,179 --> 00:49:50,481 as an acceptable risk for peace 836 00:49:50,580 --> 00:49:55,180 because I believe it could lead to success in the negotiations 837 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,113 and thereby shorten the war. 838 00:49:57,213 --> 00:50:01,148 This would be the best protection for our troops. 839 00:50:01,247 --> 00:50:04,580 NARRATOR: Johnson felt betrayed and refused to speak 840 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,881 to his own vice president for a time. 841 00:50:08,213 --> 00:50:11,981 But on October 31, just five days before the election, 842 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,648 the president himself made a surprise announcement. 843 00:50:17,780 --> 00:50:21,914 He was stopping all bombing of North Vietnam. 844 00:50:22,013 --> 00:50:25,613 There had been real progress in Paris, he said. 845 00:50:25,713 --> 00:50:29,914 Hanoi had agreed for the first time to talk with Saigon, 846 00:50:30,013 --> 00:50:34,648 and the United States had agreed to include the Viet Cong. 847 00:50:34,747 --> 00:50:40,314 It suddenly looked as if peace were possible. 848 00:50:40,414 --> 00:50:42,180 Humphrey was jubilant. 849 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,013 His poll numbers rose overnight. 850 00:50:45,113 --> 00:50:49,481 He was confident he would now be able to overtake Nixon. 851 00:50:49,580 --> 00:50:52,949 But then, on November 2, 852 00:50:53,049 --> 00:50:56,815 with just three days to go until Americans went to the polls, 853 00:50:56,915 --> 00:50:59,748 President Thieu suddenly announced 854 00:50:59,848 --> 00:51:03,014 that the South Vietnamese government would not attend 855 00:51:03,114 --> 00:51:05,382 the proposed talks after all. 856 00:51:07,214 --> 00:51:09,781 A representative of the Nixon campaign 857 00:51:09,882 --> 00:51:13,882 at the candidate's personal direction had secretly contacted 858 00:51:13,982 --> 00:51:15,449 the Saigon government 859 00:51:15,549 --> 00:51:18,382 urging Thieu to stay away from the talks, 860 00:51:18,482 --> 00:51:21,181 promising that once Nixon was elected, 861 00:51:21,281 --> 00:51:25,482 he would drive a harder bargain with Hanoi than Humphrey would. 862 00:51:25,581 --> 00:51:30,949 Thanks to a CIA bug planted in Thieu's Saigon office 863 00:51:31,049 --> 00:51:34,614 and an FBI wiretap on the South Vietnamese embassy 864 00:51:34,714 --> 00:51:38,581 in Washington, Johnson got wind of what had happened 865 00:51:38,681 --> 00:51:40,982 and called his friend Everett Dirksen, 866 00:51:41,081 --> 00:51:43,482 the Republican Senate minority leader, 867 00:51:43,581 --> 00:51:48,281 to warn him that the Nixon people were committing treason. 868 00:51:48,382 --> 00:51:50,257 LYNDON JOHNSON: I'm reading their hand, Everett. 869 00:51:50,281 --> 00:51:52,149 I don't want to get this in the campaign. 870 00:51:52,248 --> 00:51:53,549 DIRKSEN: That's right. 871 00:51:53,649 --> 00:51:54,892 And they oughtn't to be doing this. 872 00:51:54,916 --> 00:51:55,983 This is treason. I know. 873 00:51:56,082 --> 00:51:58,182 And I think it would shock America 874 00:51:58,282 --> 00:52:02,215 if a principal candidate was playing with a source like this 875 00:52:02,316 --> 00:52:03,715 on a matter this important. 876 00:52:03,816 --> 00:52:04,950 Yeah. 877 00:52:05,050 --> 00:52:06,282 I know this... 878 00:52:06,383 --> 00:52:09,015 that they're contacting a foreign power 879 00:52:09,115 --> 00:52:10,349 in the middle of a war. 880 00:52:10,450 --> 00:52:11,483 That's a mistake. 881 00:52:11,582 --> 00:52:12,883 And it's a damn bad mistake. 882 00:52:15,483 --> 00:52:16,282 RICHARD NIXON: Mr. President? 883 00:52:16,383 --> 00:52:17,282 JOHNSON: Yes. 884 00:52:17,383 --> 00:52:19,082 This is Dick Nixon. Yes, Dick. 885 00:52:19,182 --> 00:52:20,515 I just went on Meet the Press 886 00:52:20,615 --> 00:52:25,950 and said that I had given you my personal assurance 887 00:52:26,050 --> 00:52:29,115 that I would do everything possible to cooperate 888 00:52:29,215 --> 00:52:32,150 both before the election and if elected, after the election. 889 00:52:32,249 --> 00:52:33,650 I just wanted you to know 890 00:52:33,749 --> 00:52:36,950 that I feel very, very strongly about this 891 00:52:37,050 --> 00:52:40,550 and any rumblings around 892 00:52:40,650 --> 00:52:44,349 about somebody trying to sabotage 893 00:52:44,450 --> 00:52:45,950 the Saigon government's attitude 894 00:52:46,050 --> 00:52:47,349 certainly has no... 895 00:52:47,450 --> 00:52:51,749 absolutely no credibility as far as I am concerned. 896 00:52:51,849 --> 00:52:53,115 That's, that's... 897 00:52:53,215 --> 00:52:54,682 I'm very happy to hear that, Dick, 898 00:52:54,782 --> 00:52:57,651 because that is taking place. 899 00:52:57,750 --> 00:53:01,484 My God, I would never do anything to encourage Saigon 900 00:53:01,583 --> 00:53:03,159 not to come to the table because basically, 901 00:53:03,183 --> 00:53:05,451 that was what you got. 902 00:53:05,551 --> 00:53:06,683 Well, that's good, Dick. 903 00:53:06,783 --> 00:53:08,783 We've got to get this goddamned war off the plate, 904 00:53:08,850 --> 00:53:11,226 the quicker the better, and the hell with the political credit. 905 00:53:11,250 --> 00:53:12,250 Believe me. 906 00:53:12,350 --> 00:53:13,350 Thank you, Dick. 907 00:53:17,551 --> 00:53:21,051 NARRATOR: Nixon was lying and Johnson knew it. 908 00:53:21,151 --> 00:53:23,051 But to go public with the information, 909 00:53:23,151 --> 00:53:25,817 the president would have to reveal the methods 910 00:53:25,917 --> 00:53:27,051 by which he had learned 911 00:53:27,151 --> 00:53:30,350 of the Republican candidate's duplicity. 912 00:53:30,451 --> 00:53:32,917 He was unwilling to do so. 913 00:53:33,016 --> 00:53:36,551 Nixon's secret was safe. 914 00:53:36,651 --> 00:53:38,783 The American public was never told 915 00:53:38,884 --> 00:53:43,151 that the regime for which 35,000 Americans had died 916 00:53:43,250 --> 00:53:45,516 had been willing to boycott peace talks 917 00:53:45,616 --> 00:53:49,183 to help elect Richard Nixon or that he had been willing 918 00:53:49,283 --> 00:53:54,884 to delay an end to the bloodshed in order to get elected. 919 00:53:54,984 --> 00:53:59,418 REPORTER: At 10:45 this morning, Eastern Standard Time... 920 00:53:59,517 --> 00:54:04,717 NARRATOR: On Election Day, Richard Milhous Nixon won the presidency 921 00:54:04,818 --> 00:54:08,251 with 43.4 percent of the vote. 922 00:54:08,351 --> 00:54:12,452 Hubert Humphrey received 42.7 percent. 923 00:54:16,751 --> 00:54:19,885 The Nixon campaign's secret maneuvering may have helped him 924 00:54:19,985 --> 00:54:23,418 win the election, but the president-elect's fear 925 00:54:23,517 --> 00:54:26,684 that that maneuvering might someday be exposed 926 00:54:26,784 --> 00:54:29,152 would be part of his undoing. 927 00:54:32,818 --> 00:54:35,418 Thieu waited several weeks after the election 928 00:54:35,517 --> 00:54:40,684 before agreeing to send a delegation to Paris. 929 00:54:40,784 --> 00:54:45,617 There, everything stalled over the seating arrangements. 930 00:54:45,717 --> 00:54:50,552 The North Vietnamese had insisted on a square table, 931 00:54:50,652 --> 00:54:54,084 with separate sides for all four parties to the talks... 932 00:54:54,184 --> 00:54:58,784 Hanoi, the Viet Cong, Saigon, and the United States. 933 00:54:58,885 --> 00:55:04,118 Saigon refused to take part unless Hanoi and the Viet Cong 934 00:55:04,218 --> 00:55:06,585 sat on the same side of the table. 935 00:55:06,685 --> 00:55:10,618 The standoff went on for ten weeks. 936 00:55:13,585 --> 00:55:17,553 It was the Soviets who finally came up with a solution: 937 00:55:17,653 --> 00:55:19,852 a round table. 938 00:55:22,153 --> 00:55:25,085 (gunfire) 939 00:55:25,185 --> 00:55:27,685 RADIO OPERATOR: Type of injury is urgent, shrapnel wounds. 940 00:55:27,785 --> 00:55:29,118 (gunfire) 941 00:55:29,218 --> 00:55:31,085 The area is insecure. 942 00:55:34,685 --> 00:55:35,986 MEDIC: Keep your head down. 943 00:55:38,185 --> 00:55:40,053 RADIO OPERATOR: Got some fire. 944 00:55:43,018 --> 00:55:46,419 KARL MARLANTES: You have these 19-year-old kids with these huge hearts. 945 00:55:46,518 --> 00:55:49,585 They will do what you ask them. 946 00:55:49,685 --> 00:55:53,986 The issue is are you asking them to do something worthwhile? 947 00:55:54,085 --> 00:55:55,218 That's up to the adults. 948 00:55:55,319 --> 00:55:57,653 And that's where the failure comes. 949 00:55:57,752 --> 00:56:00,319 The failure isn't the kids saying, "I'm not gonna do this." 950 00:56:00,419 --> 00:56:02,852 Because that's not the way they are built. 951 00:56:02,953 --> 00:56:05,186 19-year-olds don't know to take a raincoat on 952 00:56:05,286 --> 00:56:06,853 when it's raining, all right? 953 00:56:06,954 --> 00:56:09,253 That's-that's why they're so good at being warriors. 954 00:56:09,353 --> 00:56:10,853 They'll do it. 955 00:56:10,954 --> 00:56:12,354 They won't even ask you a question. 956 00:56:13,753 --> 00:56:16,219 "All right, we'll do it." 957 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,054 The responsibility is on the grownups to make sure 958 00:56:19,154 --> 00:56:20,686 they're not being wasted 959 00:56:20,786 --> 00:56:24,786 because they'll do what they're told, and they'll do it well. 960 00:56:27,686 --> 00:56:31,487 NARRATOR: Karl Marlantes was born in Astoria, Oregon, 961 00:56:31,586 --> 00:56:34,820 the son of a veteran of the Battle of the Bulge. 962 00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,853 He had joined the Marine Reserves the summer before 963 00:56:37,954 --> 00:56:39,887 his freshman year at Yale, 964 00:56:39,987 --> 00:56:44,186 eager to prove himself and defend his country. 965 00:56:44,286 --> 00:56:46,154 When he became a Rhodes scholar, 966 00:56:46,253 --> 00:56:49,786 the Marines allowed him to defer going on active duty, 967 00:56:49,887 --> 00:56:53,586 and instead of serving in Vietnam, he went to Oxford 968 00:56:53,686 --> 00:56:57,987 in the fall of 1967. 969 00:56:58,086 --> 00:57:00,154 A few months after he got there, 970 00:57:00,253 --> 00:57:03,887 he wrote to his parents back home. 971 00:57:03,987 --> 00:57:05,695 MARLANTES: "It is with a little apprehension 972 00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,020 "that I write this letter. 973 00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,155 "I have given up my scholarship, 974 00:57:11,254 --> 00:57:15,620 "and I will be on active duty as of May 3. 975 00:57:15,720 --> 00:57:19,155 "As you know, I feel the U.S. is absolutely wrong 976 00:57:19,254 --> 00:57:21,120 "to be in the war. 977 00:57:21,220 --> 00:57:23,787 "A lot of people are dying for no good reason. 978 00:57:23,888 --> 00:57:28,421 "I can only feel an increasing rage and frustration. 979 00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,921 And a complete feeling of helplessness." 980 00:57:32,587 --> 00:57:38,155 "I have, in effect, been hiding, and I'll not do it anymore. 981 00:57:38,254 --> 00:57:43,187 "I guess I'm about to do a highly immoral thing. 982 00:57:43,287 --> 00:57:44,354 "I will be taking part 983 00:57:44,455 --> 00:57:46,754 "in one of the greatest crimes of our century, 984 00:57:46,854 --> 00:57:51,687 "and I will be doing so out of frustration, bitterness, 985 00:57:51,787 --> 00:57:55,354 "and a sense of the absurd that I have only come to appreciate 986 00:57:55,455 --> 00:57:58,155 "in its entirety in the past year. 987 00:57:58,254 --> 00:58:01,055 From now on my logic will be changed." 988 00:58:02,955 --> 00:58:04,888 "I can do something. 989 00:58:04,988 --> 00:58:07,655 "That is, I can do my very best to get 40 kids 990 00:58:07,754 --> 00:58:10,088 "out of Vietnam alive, 991 00:58:10,188 --> 00:58:13,588 "and if I have to turn into an evil machine to do it, 992 00:58:13,688 --> 00:58:15,556 then by God I will." 993 00:58:18,621 --> 00:58:22,588 It was my friends, guys that I trained with. 994 00:58:22,688 --> 00:58:27,456 I felt like I was going to let the side down. 995 00:58:27,556 --> 00:58:30,521 That by not joining in with them and sharing the burden 996 00:58:30,621 --> 00:58:33,688 that I wouldn't be a decent person. 997 00:58:33,788 --> 00:58:36,688 It's a mixed bag because I went over there and killed people 998 00:58:36,788 --> 00:58:38,588 for, you know... is that why I did that? 999 00:58:40,621 --> 00:58:42,255 O'BRIEN: Do you go off and kill people 1000 00:58:42,355 --> 00:58:44,322 if you're not pretty sure it's right? 1001 00:58:44,422 --> 00:58:47,922 And if your nation isn't pretty sure it's right? 1002 00:58:48,021 --> 00:58:52,156 If there isn't some consensus, do you do that? 1003 00:58:54,989 --> 00:58:56,489 I was at Fort Lewis, Washington, 1004 00:58:56,588 --> 00:59:00,521 and Canada was, what, a 90-minute bus ride away. 1005 00:59:00,621 --> 00:59:02,889 I wrote my mom and dad and asked for money. 1006 00:59:02,989 --> 00:59:06,056 I asked for my passport. 1007 00:59:06,156 --> 00:59:08,588 And they sent them to me with, again, no questions. 1008 00:59:08,688 --> 00:59:10,365 Like, "What do you want the passport for?" 1009 00:59:10,389 --> 00:59:11,990 They just sent it. 1010 00:59:12,089 --> 00:59:13,589 And I kept all this stuff stashed, 1011 00:59:13,689 --> 00:59:16,457 including civilian clothes stashed in my footlocker, 1012 00:59:16,557 --> 00:59:18,256 thinking maybe I'll... maybe I'll do it. 1013 00:59:18,356 --> 00:59:20,232 ("Bookends Theme" by Simon and Garfunkel playing) 1014 00:59:20,256 --> 00:59:22,890 It was this kind of "maybe" thing going on 1015 00:59:22,990 --> 00:59:26,522 all throughout this training as Vietnam got closer 1016 00:59:26,622 --> 00:59:29,089 and closer and closer. 1017 00:59:29,189 --> 00:59:32,423 What prevented me from doing it? 1018 00:59:32,522 --> 00:59:35,856 I think it was pretty simple and stupid. 1019 00:59:35,957 --> 00:59:39,490 It was a fear of embarrassment, 1020 00:59:39,589 --> 00:59:44,022 a fear of ridicule and humiliation. 1021 00:59:45,689 --> 00:59:48,057 What my girlfriend would have thought of me 1022 00:59:48,157 --> 00:59:51,657 and the people in the Gobbler Cafe in downtown Worthington. 1023 00:59:53,256 --> 00:59:55,356 The Kiwanis boys and the country club boys 1024 00:59:55,457 --> 00:59:57,789 and that small town I grew up in, 1025 00:59:57,890 --> 01:00:00,256 the things they'd say about me. 1026 01:00:00,356 --> 01:00:06,323 "What a coward and what a sissy for going to Canada." 1027 01:00:06,423 --> 01:00:09,256 SIMON AND GARFUNKEL: d It was a time of innocence 1028 01:00:09,356 --> 01:00:11,122 O'BRIEN: And I would imagine my mom and dad 1029 01:00:11,222 --> 01:00:14,491 overhearing something like that. 1030 01:00:14,590 --> 01:00:17,958 SIMON AND GARFUNKEL: d Long ago it must be 1031 01:00:18,058 --> 01:00:21,558 O'BRIEN: I couldn't summon the courage to say no 1032 01:00:21,658 --> 01:00:29,658 to those nameless, faceless people who really, in essence, 1033 01:00:31,324 --> 01:00:35,290 this was the United States of America. 1034 01:00:35,391 --> 01:00:38,991 And I couldn't say no to them. 1035 01:00:39,090 --> 01:00:44,891 And I had to live with it now for, you know, 40 years. 1036 01:00:44,991 --> 01:00:50,690 That's a long time to live with a failure of conscience 1037 01:00:50,790 --> 01:00:55,790 and a failure of nerve. 1038 01:00:55,891 --> 01:00:59,623 And the nightmare of Vietnam for me is not the bombs 1039 01:00:59,723 --> 01:01:01,058 and the bullets. 1040 01:01:09,824 --> 01:01:13,658 (voice breaking): It's that failure of nerve 1041 01:01:13,757 --> 01:01:15,357 that I so regret. 1042 01:01:26,492 --> 01:01:31,392 HAL KUSHNER: In the fall of 1968 was probably the toughest time we had. 1043 01:01:34,492 --> 01:01:41,492 Our daily life was a continuing struggle for survival. 1044 01:01:41,591 --> 01:01:48,959 Our food ration was three cups of rice per day. 1045 01:01:50,325 --> 01:01:54,459 We slept on a large bamboo pallet. 1046 01:01:54,559 --> 01:01:58,524 Sometimes there were ten or 12 people on one pallet. 1047 01:01:58,624 --> 01:02:00,925 And we were sick. 1048 01:02:01,024 --> 01:02:03,091 We were very sick. 1049 01:02:03,191 --> 01:02:07,624 Four people died within... 1050 01:02:07,724 --> 01:02:09,258 a month. 1051 01:02:09,358 --> 01:02:12,124 And then two more died very shortly after that. 1052 01:02:14,825 --> 01:02:17,224 NARRATOR: Thirteen Americans would die 1053 01:02:17,325 --> 01:02:21,125 during Captain Hal Kushner's time in jungle prison camps 1054 01:02:21,225 --> 01:02:22,792 in South Vietnam. 1055 01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:27,092 He was a doctor but had no medications, 1056 01:02:27,192 --> 01:02:29,792 no antibiotics or saline solution 1057 01:02:29,893 --> 01:02:32,192 with which to treat his comrades. 1058 01:02:32,292 --> 01:02:36,725 All he could do was bury each in a bamboo coffin 1059 01:02:36,826 --> 01:02:40,426 and make sure the spot was marked with a heap of stones 1060 01:02:40,525 --> 01:02:43,192 daubed with Mercurochrome. 1061 01:02:45,326 --> 01:02:48,125 KUSHNER: We had nothing to eat. 1062 01:02:48,225 --> 01:02:51,993 And I thought that I was just going insane. 1063 01:02:52,092 --> 01:02:55,359 So we were sitting around and with this little fire. 1064 01:02:55,460 --> 01:02:57,460 And we saw the camp commander's cat, 1065 01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,125 who had free rein of the camp. 1066 01:02:59,225 --> 01:03:00,560 And he came down to our area. 1067 01:03:00,660 --> 01:03:02,692 And we were starving to death. 1068 01:03:02,792 --> 01:03:06,160 So someone suggested, "Let's eat the cat." 1069 01:03:08,460 --> 01:03:09,560 So we killed the cat. 1070 01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,592 And we cut the head off and we cut the paws off. 1071 01:03:14,692 --> 01:03:17,993 And we had this little carcass of about two pounds. 1072 01:03:18,092 --> 01:03:22,161 And one of the guards came down, and we told him it was a weasel, 1073 01:03:22,260 --> 01:03:24,760 and we threw a rock at it and killed it. 1074 01:03:24,860 --> 01:03:26,494 And then he looked around 1075 01:03:26,593 --> 01:03:29,927 and someone had neglected to bury one of the paws. 1076 01:03:30,026 --> 01:03:31,526 And he saw the paw. 1077 01:03:31,626 --> 01:03:35,226 And he knew instantly that it was the camp commander's cat. 1078 01:03:35,327 --> 01:03:37,793 And things got very serious. 1079 01:03:39,894 --> 01:03:42,994 And they lined us up and they said, "Who did this?" 1080 01:03:43,093 --> 01:03:44,360 Nobody said anything. 1081 01:03:44,461 --> 01:03:46,293 I thought they were going to kill us all. 1082 01:03:46,394 --> 01:03:48,193 Just execute us. 1083 01:03:48,293 --> 01:03:53,427 And one of the people who was a ringleader in this 1084 01:03:53,526 --> 01:03:55,726 said he did it. 1085 01:03:55,827 --> 01:03:59,394 And I said that I did it also. 1086 01:03:59,494 --> 01:04:01,626 And we all said we did it. 1087 01:04:01,726 --> 01:04:03,593 "I am Spartacus," you know? 1088 01:04:03,693 --> 01:04:05,360 It was that. 1089 01:04:05,461 --> 01:04:09,593 So they called that person and me out. 1090 01:04:09,693 --> 01:04:13,260 And the guard kicked him and beat him to the ground, 1091 01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:15,427 and just beat him unmercifully. 1092 01:04:16,894 --> 01:04:20,260 And they hit me in the face with fists and didn't beat me 1093 01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,226 as badly as they beat him. 1094 01:04:22,327 --> 01:04:26,261 And then tied me with commo wire very tightly to a hooch 1095 01:04:26,361 --> 01:04:29,895 and left me for a day. 1096 01:04:29,995 --> 01:04:33,794 And with the carcass of the cat draped around my neck. 1097 01:04:33,895 --> 01:04:35,428 And I was so crazy I thought, 1098 01:04:35,527 --> 01:04:37,527 "Maybe they're going to let me eat this cat." 1099 01:04:37,627 --> 01:04:40,162 But I had to bury it. 1100 01:04:40,261 --> 01:04:45,328 So, the fellow that they beat very badly died two weeks later. 1101 01:04:46,794 --> 01:04:50,662 But to me the tragedy of it was we didn't get the cat. 1102 01:04:56,527 --> 01:04:58,828 CHARLES COLLINGWOOD: For the capital of a nation at war, 1103 01:04:58,928 --> 01:05:02,527 Saigon abounds with a phenomenal number of young men 1104 01:05:02,627 --> 01:05:05,627 of draft age in sharp, civilian clothes. 1105 01:05:05,727 --> 01:05:09,062 Saigon cowboys they're called. 1106 01:05:09,162 --> 01:05:12,694 It's a war profiteer's economy, fanned by the forced draft 1107 01:05:12,794 --> 01:05:14,162 of American money. 1108 01:05:14,261 --> 01:05:15,828 They count it a good year in Saigon 1109 01:05:15,928 --> 01:05:18,261 when the prices only go up by 25%. 1110 01:05:22,361 --> 01:05:24,027 NARRATOR: Years of American presence, 1111 01:05:24,127 --> 01:05:28,396 and the tens of billions of U.S. dollars that came with it, 1112 01:05:28,496 --> 01:05:31,028 had transformed much of South Vietnam, 1113 01:05:31,128 --> 01:05:34,795 creating a false economy that was utterly dependent 1114 01:05:34,896 --> 01:05:38,463 on that presence becoming perpetual. 1115 01:05:38,563 --> 01:05:41,795 GEORGE LEWIS: Since the U.S. began its big buildup in the mid-'60s, 1116 01:05:41,896 --> 01:05:44,362 millions of dollars worth of goods have entered the country 1117 01:05:44,463 --> 01:05:46,028 each month. 1118 01:05:46,128 --> 01:05:49,063 Some economists say ten percent or more of the cargo 1119 01:05:49,163 --> 01:05:51,762 is diverted into black market channels. 1120 01:05:55,528 --> 01:05:58,063 NARRATOR: With so much money flowing into the country, 1121 01:05:58,163 --> 01:06:01,429 corruption and crime inevitably grew. 1122 01:06:04,028 --> 01:06:06,362 Government officials were on the take. 1123 01:06:06,463 --> 01:06:09,329 So were many ARVN officers. 1124 01:06:09,429 --> 01:06:12,896 Policemen could not be trusted. 1125 01:06:16,063 --> 01:06:20,095 PHAN QUANG TUE: Who benefit from the financial aspect of the war? 1126 01:06:21,228 --> 01:06:22,762 Generals. 1127 01:06:22,862 --> 01:06:25,063 Don't deny that. 1128 01:06:25,163 --> 01:06:28,562 Then they get the money, then they become richer. 1129 01:06:28,663 --> 01:06:33,929 We have a term, and I call it, they were war profiteers, 1130 01:06:34,029 --> 01:06:38,229 from Thieu and Ky down to every echelon. 1131 01:06:38,330 --> 01:06:40,796 HERRINGTON: The Vietnamese had a saying: 1132 01:06:40,897 --> 01:06:43,996 a house leaks from the roof on down. 1133 01:06:44,096 --> 01:06:47,029 (saying phrase in Vietnamese) 1134 01:06:48,964 --> 01:06:53,764 And that was, of course, their way to elliptically refer 1135 01:06:53,863 --> 01:06:57,464 to the ever-present, nagging problem of corruption. 1136 01:06:57,563 --> 01:07:02,964 JOE GALLOWAY: They were stealing from us and selling to anybody. 1137 01:07:03,063 --> 01:07:04,743 Two-man helicopter, you want one of those? 1138 01:07:04,830 --> 01:07:07,764 They got it in a box in the back. 1139 01:07:07,863 --> 01:07:12,130 Probably get it for 12,000 bucks if you negotiated strongly. 1140 01:07:13,596 --> 01:07:17,296 The corruption was endemic. 1141 01:07:17,397 --> 01:07:20,529 And we tolerated it. 1142 01:07:20,630 --> 01:07:25,063 NARRATOR: Tons of American goods piled up on Saigon's docks. 1143 01:07:25,164 --> 01:07:28,729 Some Gis took advantage, too. 1144 01:07:28,830 --> 01:07:32,698 U.S. products flowed out the back doors of PXs. 1145 01:07:32,797 --> 01:07:35,831 In just one year, 1146 01:07:35,930 --> 01:07:42,230 the black market cost the U.S. military $2 billion. 1147 01:07:42,331 --> 01:07:45,131 COLLINGWOOD: The impact of the war has disrupted the ancient patterns 1148 01:07:45,230 --> 01:07:47,230 of Vietnamese life. 1149 01:07:47,331 --> 01:07:50,331 The cities are crowded to the bursting point with people 1150 01:07:50,430 --> 01:07:53,265 uprooted from the land and the ancestral values 1151 01:07:53,364 --> 01:07:55,698 of a rural-oriented society 1152 01:07:55,797 --> 01:07:58,430 but who have found nothing to replace them. 1153 01:07:58,530 --> 01:08:01,797 NARRATOR: Before U.S. troops arrived, 1154 01:08:01,898 --> 01:08:05,930 eight out of ten South Vietnamese lived in villages. 1155 01:08:06,030 --> 01:08:09,364 By the end of the 1960s, 1156 01:08:09,465 --> 01:08:13,864 almost half would be crowded into urban areas. 1157 01:08:13,965 --> 01:08:17,997 Saigon's population tripled to three million. 1158 01:08:18,097 --> 01:08:22,398 Half the refugees had no permanent shelter. 1159 01:08:24,797 --> 01:08:27,497 Cholera and typhoid killed thousands. 1160 01:08:29,997 --> 01:08:33,765 Hungry children roamed the streets, scavenging, begging, 1161 01:08:33,864 --> 01:08:38,166 searching for jobs to do or pockets to pick. 1162 01:08:38,266 --> 01:08:42,832 Tens of thousands of young women left their village homes 1163 01:08:42,931 --> 01:08:48,031 and came to Saigon to become bar girls and prostitutes. 1164 01:08:53,798 --> 01:08:55,199 The communist government in Hanoi 1165 01:08:55,298 --> 01:08:57,399 tried to make the most of it, 1166 01:08:57,498 --> 01:09:02,065 accusing the United States and its puppet government in Saigon 1167 01:09:02,166 --> 01:09:05,298 of destroying Vietnamese culture in the South. 1168 01:09:08,966 --> 01:09:12,565 But the citizens of Saigon were far freer 1169 01:09:12,666 --> 01:09:14,231 than the North Vietnamese. 1170 01:09:14,332 --> 01:09:18,666 The South Vietnamese people could express their views, 1171 01:09:18,766 --> 01:09:20,231 for and against their government, 1172 01:09:20,332 --> 01:09:25,365 in the pages of hundreds of newspapers and magazines. 1173 01:09:25,466 --> 01:09:28,832 And they held demonstrations denouncing 1174 01:09:28,931 --> 01:09:32,931 the rampant corruption and demanding religious freedom 1175 01:09:33,031 --> 01:09:35,466 and better treatment for veterans. 1176 01:09:39,467 --> 01:09:42,866 For all of its problems, one man remembered, 1177 01:09:42,967 --> 01:09:47,432 Saigon was "filthy and free." 1178 01:09:47,532 --> 01:09:49,066 (car horn honking) 1179 01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:30,932 (gunfire) 1180 01:11:19,733 --> 01:11:22,701 NARRATOR: In the densely populated Mekong Delta, 1181 01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:27,533 the war in the countryside suddenly intensified. 1182 01:11:27,634 --> 01:11:29,901 General Abrams assigned the commander 1183 01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:34,300 of the 9th Infantry Division, General Julian J. Ewell, 1184 01:11:34,401 --> 01:11:37,201 the job of destroying the remaining Viet Cong 1185 01:11:37,300 --> 01:11:39,600 south of Saigon. 1186 01:11:39,701 --> 01:11:44,169 His operation was called Speedy Express. 1187 01:11:45,902 --> 01:11:50,534 "The hearts and minds approach can be overdone," Ewell said. 1188 01:11:50,635 --> 01:11:55,034 "In the Delta the only way to overcome VC control and terror 1189 01:11:55,135 --> 01:11:58,202 is by brute force." 1190 01:11:59,702 --> 01:12:02,835 Patrols would pursue the enemy around the clock. 1191 01:12:02,934 --> 01:12:06,335 The night sky was filled with helicopters, 1192 01:12:06,434 --> 01:12:09,001 some armed with instruments that could detect 1193 01:12:09,101 --> 01:12:11,101 traces of carbon and ammonia 1194 01:12:11,202 --> 01:12:14,068 that meant human beings were below, 1195 01:12:14,169 --> 01:12:17,368 though not which side they were on. 1196 01:12:17,469 --> 01:12:21,702 In areas designated "free-fire zones," 1197 01:12:21,801 --> 01:12:24,501 anyone out after curfew could be shot. 1198 01:12:26,501 --> 01:12:30,368 During the day, anyone seen running was targeted. 1199 01:12:32,868 --> 01:12:36,868 Colonel Robert Gard was one of Ewell's artillery commanders. 1200 01:12:36,969 --> 01:12:42,034 ROBERT GARD: If someone was told that anyone who runs away should be assumed 1201 01:12:42,135 --> 01:12:45,869 to be an enemy, I certainly would disagree with that. 1202 01:12:45,970 --> 01:12:47,770 That's totally improper. 1203 01:12:47,869 --> 01:12:51,502 People run away because they're afraid. 1204 01:12:51,602 --> 01:12:55,670 I've seen instances of farmers, 1205 01:12:55,770 --> 01:12:58,470 when you descend in a helicopter suddenly, 1206 01:12:58,569 --> 01:13:01,569 and they freeze, and they're frightened, and they run. 1207 01:13:01,670 --> 01:13:06,336 You can't just make a blanket judgment. 1208 01:13:06,435 --> 01:13:10,935 NARRATOR: General Ewell boasted of his unit's statistical record... 1209 01:13:11,035 --> 01:13:16,636 10,899 Viet Cong killed in six months 1210 01:13:16,735 --> 01:13:19,935 with a loss of only 242 Americans, 1211 01:13:20,035 --> 01:13:25,636 an astonishing kill ratio of 45-to-1. 1212 01:13:28,170 --> 01:13:32,836 GARD: To say that we killed only enemy combatants, 1213 01:13:32,935 --> 01:13:36,535 and to talk about ratios of 40-to-1 1214 01:13:36,636 --> 01:13:39,735 simply defies my imagination. 1215 01:13:41,270 --> 01:13:44,569 NARRATOR: At Abrams' recommendation, Ewell was promoted, 1216 01:13:44,670 --> 01:13:49,003 but the Army Inspector General would eventually estimate 1217 01:13:49,103 --> 01:13:52,171 that more than half of the roughly 11,000 kills 1218 01:13:52,271 --> 01:13:54,603 claimed by the 9th Infantry 1219 01:13:54,704 --> 01:13:57,704 had been unarmed, innocent civilians. 1220 01:14:01,436 --> 01:14:04,337 No one was ever held accountable. 1221 01:14:09,137 --> 01:14:13,971 ("Don't Think Twice, It's All Right" by Bob Dylan playing) 1222 01:14:18,070 --> 01:14:23,404 d It ain't no use to sit and wonder why, babe d 1223 01:14:23,503 --> 01:14:27,236 d It don't matter, anyhow 1224 01:14:27,337 --> 01:14:32,404 d And it ain't no use to sit and wonder why, babe d 1225 01:14:32,503 --> 01:14:36,303 d If you don't know by now 1226 01:14:36,404 --> 01:14:40,936 d When your rooster crows at the break of dawn d 1227 01:14:41,036 --> 01:14:45,837 d Look out your window and I'll be gone d 1228 01:14:45,936 --> 01:14:49,905 d You're the reason I'm travelin' on d 1229 01:14:50,004 --> 01:14:53,672 d Don't think twice, it's all right. d 1230 01:14:59,905 --> 01:15:04,905 CAROL CROCKER: I think moving away from one's family's ideologies 1231 01:15:05,004 --> 01:15:11,772 is a scary balance on a very tricky precipice 1232 01:15:11,871 --> 01:15:15,638 because they have been the focal point 1233 01:15:15,737 --> 01:15:17,138 of how we judge how we're doing. 1234 01:15:17,237 --> 01:15:21,905 And I was now trying to judge my decisions and my actions 1235 01:15:22,004 --> 01:15:26,104 on the basis of my own ideas and own thoughts. 1236 01:15:26,205 --> 01:15:29,371 NARRATOR: The war was already uncomfortably close 1237 01:15:29,472 --> 01:15:31,838 to Carol Crocker. 1238 01:15:31,937 --> 01:15:34,705 Her brother Mogie had volunteered to fight 1239 01:15:34,804 --> 01:15:39,672 and had been killed in Vietnam in 1966. 1240 01:15:39,772 --> 01:15:41,437 She was still grieving. 1241 01:15:43,705 --> 01:15:47,571 That fall, Carol had entered Goucher College in Baltimore, 1242 01:15:47,672 --> 01:15:52,572 an all-women's school with a long conservative tradition. 1243 01:15:52,673 --> 01:15:54,605 CAROL CROCKER: We dressed for dinner. 1244 01:15:54,706 --> 01:15:57,773 We had an 11:00 curfew. 1245 01:15:57,872 --> 01:16:03,206 Obviously no boys or men were allowed in the dorms. 1246 01:16:03,305 --> 01:16:05,273 That was the rule. 1247 01:16:05,372 --> 01:16:07,382 ("Piece of My Heart" by Big Brother and the Holding Company) 1248 01:16:07,406 --> 01:16:11,139 It could not have even been any later than the beginning 1249 01:16:11,238 --> 01:16:17,005 of the second semester that most of the rules that were in place 1250 01:16:17,105 --> 01:16:21,973 and had been in place for many, many years, no longer existed. 1251 01:16:22,072 --> 01:16:27,639 JANIS JOPLIN: d Oh, come on, come on, come on, come on d 1252 01:16:27,738 --> 01:16:29,206 d And take it 1253 01:16:29,305 --> 01:16:30,548 d Take another little piece... 1254 01:16:30,572 --> 01:16:31,649 CAROL CROCKER: The challenge 1255 01:16:31,673 --> 01:16:35,773 to campuses countrywide was 1256 01:16:35,872 --> 01:16:37,505 how do we maintain our student body 1257 01:16:37,605 --> 01:16:43,238 to behave in a civil manner, and teach them, 1258 01:16:43,339 --> 01:16:46,206 and not have them try to burn us down? 1259 01:16:46,305 --> 01:16:48,773 If that means not dressing for dinner, so be it. 1260 01:16:48,872 --> 01:16:50,973 JOPLIN: d If it makes you feel good 1261 01:16:51,072 --> 01:16:53,238 d Oh yes it did. 1262 01:16:53,339 --> 01:16:56,274 CAROL CROCKER: Our guy friends, we were spending time and talking 1263 01:16:56,373 --> 01:16:57,407 and they were scared. 1264 01:16:57,506 --> 01:16:59,373 And they were worried. 1265 01:16:59,474 --> 01:17:02,573 And they weren't sure what they were going to do. 1266 01:17:02,674 --> 01:17:06,373 And more discussion was happening about 1267 01:17:06,474 --> 01:17:10,274 whether this was a valid war. 1268 01:17:10,373 --> 01:17:14,974 And this was really, for me, the first time I opened my ears 1269 01:17:15,073 --> 01:17:17,474 to the war in a way other than 1270 01:17:17,573 --> 01:17:21,039 that it was about my brother's death. 1271 01:17:21,140 --> 01:17:23,840 I honored him. 1272 01:17:23,939 --> 01:17:28,373 I respected him for doing what he believed in. 1273 01:17:28,474 --> 01:17:30,407 But I did not agree with him. 1274 01:17:30,506 --> 01:17:35,140 JOPLIN: d Come on, come on, come on and take it. d 1275 01:17:35,239 --> 01:17:38,739 NARRATOR: Eva Jefferson was a sophomore at Northwestern. 1276 01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:42,039 A serviceman's daughter, she had entered college convinced 1277 01:17:42,140 --> 01:17:45,840 the American government would never mislead its citizens. 1278 01:17:45,939 --> 01:17:49,674 But for her, too, things had begun to change. 1279 01:17:49,774 --> 01:17:51,573 Earlier that year, 1280 01:17:51,674 --> 01:17:54,939 when a handful of black Northwestern students decided 1281 01:17:55,039 --> 01:17:57,208 to occupy the bursar's office 1282 01:17:57,307 --> 01:18:00,775 demanding African-American studies, she joined them, 1283 01:18:00,874 --> 01:18:04,740 then called her parents to tell them what she'd done. 1284 01:18:04,841 --> 01:18:07,641 EVA JEFFERSON PATERSON: And I said, "Mom and Dad, guess where I am? 1285 01:18:07,740 --> 01:18:09,408 We just took over the bursar's office." 1286 01:18:09,507 --> 01:18:11,341 They were horrified. 1287 01:18:11,440 --> 01:18:14,507 And upon reflection, of course they were horrified. 1288 01:18:14,607 --> 01:18:16,050 And they said, "If you don't get out of there 1289 01:18:16,074 --> 01:18:17,416 we're going to cut off your money." 1290 01:18:17,440 --> 01:18:19,841 So that was the moment in my own consciousness 1291 01:18:19,940 --> 01:18:21,975 when I became independent. 1292 01:18:22,074 --> 01:18:24,341 I thought, "Well, they're going to cut off my money. 1293 01:18:24,440 --> 01:18:26,074 C'est la vie." 1294 01:18:26,175 --> 01:18:30,275 NARRATOR: "The University met all our demands in three days," 1295 01:18:30,374 --> 01:18:31,675 she remembered. 1296 01:18:31,775 --> 01:18:34,475 "If you asked for black studies on Friday, 1297 01:18:34,574 --> 01:18:36,641 you got it on Monday." 1298 01:18:36,740 --> 01:18:41,040 PATERSON: It felt like something was happening that was profound, 1299 01:18:41,141 --> 01:18:42,908 that was irreversible. 1300 01:18:43,007 --> 01:18:44,908 But also you're 18, 19 years old. 1301 01:18:45,007 --> 01:18:46,007 It's exciting. 1302 01:18:47,940 --> 01:18:51,107 I felt as though a revolution was coming. 1303 01:18:51,208 --> 01:18:55,007 And I thought the revolution would be won by our side. 1304 01:19:02,676 --> 01:19:06,976 NARRATOR: Relations between parents and children, brothers and sisters, 1305 01:19:07,075 --> 01:19:10,241 were changing everywhere. 1306 01:19:10,342 --> 01:19:14,108 ANNE HARRISON BOWMAN: When I stood in the living room and I was hugging two brothers, 1307 01:19:14,209 --> 01:19:16,541 it didn't matter to me about their choices 1308 01:19:16,642 --> 01:19:20,842 or that they were on two different sides of the fence. 1309 01:19:20,941 --> 01:19:24,976 All I knew was that they were both my brothers 1310 01:19:25,075 --> 01:19:27,741 and they were both back in the same room and there we were. 1311 01:19:27,842 --> 01:19:31,941 NARRATOR: Captain Matt Harrison, Jr.... Chips... 1312 01:19:32,041 --> 01:19:38,008 had graduated West Point, served a tour in Vietnam 1313 01:19:38,108 --> 01:19:42,209 and took part in two of the war's bloodiest battles... 1314 01:19:42,308 --> 01:19:45,941 Hill 1338 and Hill 875. 1315 01:19:48,209 --> 01:19:51,875 He was back stateside in the autumn of 1968, 1316 01:19:51,976 --> 01:19:56,008 when the family began to worry about his younger brother, Bob, 1317 01:19:56,108 --> 01:20:00,108 whom his siblings sometimes called Robin. 1318 01:20:00,209 --> 01:20:05,143 MATT HARRISON: He and I were just great pals since we were growing up 1319 01:20:05,242 --> 01:20:09,242 because we moved every year or two years. 1320 01:20:09,343 --> 01:20:11,442 And, you know, new set of friends 1321 01:20:11,542 --> 01:20:12,843 but always had my brother. 1322 01:20:14,477 --> 01:20:16,509 BOWMAN: Bob was in ROTC 1323 01:20:16,609 --> 01:20:20,710 and polished and buffed his shoes and had short hair 1324 01:20:20,809 --> 01:20:24,677 and said "Yes, sir" and "Yes, ma'am." 1325 01:20:24,777 --> 01:20:29,009 And then we moved to California his senior year in high school. 1326 01:20:29,109 --> 01:20:35,542 And he was the consummate blond surfer boy and cutting school. 1327 01:20:35,643 --> 01:20:37,809 And he was immediately very popular 1328 01:20:37,910 --> 01:20:40,277 and having a great time. 1329 01:20:43,343 --> 01:20:45,509 NARRATOR: Robin did not go to West Point, 1330 01:20:45,609 --> 01:20:48,343 entered Marin Junior College instead, 1331 01:20:48,442 --> 01:20:51,376 and then shocked his family by signing on 1332 01:20:51,477 --> 01:20:55,277 with the Marine... not the Army... Reserves. 1333 01:20:57,009 --> 01:21:01,177 HARRISON: At some point Robin became convinced that... 1334 01:21:01,277 --> 01:21:05,443 that the war was wrong, and not only wrong, it was immoral. 1335 01:21:05,543 --> 01:21:10,711 So he quit going to the Reserve weekends, 1336 01:21:10,810 --> 01:21:13,844 and because of that he was activated... 1337 01:21:13,943 --> 01:21:19,010 and was very likely now he was going to be going to Vietnam 1338 01:21:19,110 --> 01:21:22,344 as a Marine Corps rifleman. 1339 01:21:22,443 --> 01:21:24,743 I didn't think being a Marine Corps rifleman 1340 01:21:24,844 --> 01:21:27,743 was a very safe occupation. 1341 01:21:27,844 --> 01:21:30,844 And I didn't think Robin would be a particularly good 1342 01:21:30,943 --> 01:21:32,743 Marine Corps rifleman. 1343 01:21:32,844 --> 01:21:37,211 And so I just thought that this was a very bad outcome for him 1344 01:21:37,310 --> 01:21:38,778 and for the family. 1345 01:21:43,043 --> 01:21:46,543 NARRATOR: Matt Harrison knew that under military regulations, 1346 01:21:46,644 --> 01:21:50,010 if one brother was already in a combat zone, 1347 01:21:50,110 --> 01:21:53,377 a second brother need not accept assignment there. 1348 01:21:53,478 --> 01:21:57,010 So to keep Robin out of the war, 1349 01:21:57,110 --> 01:22:01,877 he volunteered for a second tour in Vietnam. 1350 01:22:01,978 --> 01:22:06,678 HARRISON: I was back in Vietnam I think in less than 30 days. 1351 01:22:06,778 --> 01:22:08,244 I was a seasoned veteran. 1352 01:22:08,345 --> 01:22:10,578 I was going to go command a company. 1353 01:22:10,679 --> 01:22:13,578 My chances of getting hurt were a lot less than Robin's were. 1354 01:22:13,679 --> 01:22:15,611 And if I did choose to make it a career, 1355 01:22:15,712 --> 01:22:17,744 the fact that I had had a second tour 1356 01:22:17,845 --> 01:22:19,955 as a rifle company commander was going to be good for me. 1357 01:22:19,979 --> 01:22:23,011 And so, you know, it wasn't entirely selfless. 1358 01:22:23,111 --> 01:22:27,544 I honestly don't remember a tremendous amount of dialogue 1359 01:22:27,645 --> 01:22:29,578 between my mom and dad. 1360 01:22:29,679 --> 01:22:32,779 I think they felt like if Bob had gone, 1361 01:22:32,878 --> 01:22:34,712 he would have been killed. 1362 01:22:34,811 --> 01:22:40,279 Whereas I think they felt that Chips was going to be okay. 1363 01:22:40,378 --> 01:22:45,244 I can't imagine, having had a son now go to Iraq, 1364 01:22:45,345 --> 01:22:50,744 how my mother could have gotten through every single day at all, 1365 01:22:50,845 --> 01:22:56,244 without believing very firmly that he was going to be fine. 1366 01:22:59,078 --> 01:23:01,811 NARRATOR: Matt Harrison's decision to serve a second tour 1367 01:23:01,912 --> 01:23:05,179 did not fully protect his brother Robin. 1368 01:23:05,279 --> 01:23:07,811 He went AWOL, was court-martialed 1369 01:23:07,912 --> 01:23:10,713 and sentenced to three months hard labor. 1370 01:23:10,812 --> 01:23:13,146 The sentence was suspended. 1371 01:23:13,245 --> 01:23:14,913 He returned to the Marines, 1372 01:23:15,012 --> 01:23:17,180 served as a chaplain's assistant, 1373 01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:20,579 applied for conscientious objector status, 1374 01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:25,045 and then went AWOL again. 1375 01:23:25,146 --> 01:23:27,855 VICTORIA HARRISON: I remember the FBI coming and knocking on the door 1376 01:23:27,879 --> 01:23:29,913 and looking for him. 1377 01:23:30,012 --> 01:23:33,745 They asked if Robert Harrison was there 1378 01:23:33,846 --> 01:23:37,646 and I just knew this wasn't good 1379 01:23:37,745 --> 01:23:41,012 and said "No" and slammed the door. 1380 01:23:41,112 --> 01:23:46,079 And Bob went out the back 1381 01:23:46,180 --> 01:23:48,512 and ran out to the main street. 1382 01:23:48,612 --> 01:23:53,579 And as I understand it, got in a car and left 1383 01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:56,680 and that was the last I saw of him. 1384 01:24:01,445 --> 01:24:05,112 BOWMAN: I don't think a military mom at the time would want 1385 01:24:05,213 --> 01:24:06,713 to announce, "My son has gone AWOL. 1386 01:24:06,812 --> 01:24:08,713 "My son has run to Canada. 1387 01:24:08,812 --> 01:24:11,812 "My son is all the words that were associated with it, 1388 01:24:11,913 --> 01:24:15,847 a deserter, a coward." 1389 01:24:15,946 --> 01:24:18,347 All of the things that these guys were called. 1390 01:24:20,647 --> 01:24:23,681 I don't think that's what those guys thought they were doing. 1391 01:24:23,781 --> 01:24:25,847 I do not think they thought they were deserting. 1392 01:24:25,946 --> 01:24:27,847 I do not think they thought they were cowards. 1393 01:24:27,946 --> 01:24:30,946 In fact, I think they thought they were very brave. 1394 01:24:34,946 --> 01:24:37,746 NARRATOR: When Matt Harrison assumed command of Alpha Company, 1395 01:24:37,847 --> 01:24:43,181 2nd Battalion, 14th Regiment of the 25th Infantry Division, 1396 01:24:43,281 --> 01:24:45,781 his Army had changed. 1397 01:24:48,647 --> 01:24:51,746 HARRISON: I was commanding a company of draftees, 1398 01:24:51,847 --> 01:24:54,181 almost none of whom wanted to be there. 1399 01:24:54,281 --> 01:24:55,946 They didn't want to be in the Army 1400 01:24:56,046 --> 01:24:57,880 and they certainly didn't want to be 1401 01:24:57,981 --> 01:24:59,880 an infantryman in Vietnam. 1402 01:24:59,981 --> 01:25:03,347 There were times when it was very difficult 1403 01:25:03,446 --> 01:25:05,746 to keep the men under control, 1404 01:25:05,847 --> 01:25:08,181 particularly if we had taken casualties on the way 1405 01:25:08,281 --> 01:25:09,781 into a village. 1406 01:25:11,414 --> 01:25:16,148 One of the things I learned is the veneer of civilization 1407 01:25:16,247 --> 01:25:18,915 is very thin... very thin... 1408 01:25:19,014 --> 01:25:24,114 on me, probably on you, and I think on everybody. 1409 01:25:25,915 --> 01:25:28,314 I just saw over and over again 1410 01:25:28,415 --> 01:25:32,381 some nice young guy out of Huron, South Dakota, 1411 01:25:32,482 --> 01:25:35,614 who back in Huron helped old ladies across the street 1412 01:25:35,715 --> 01:25:38,482 and went to church every Sunday. 1413 01:25:38,581 --> 01:25:45,715 It did not take long for that veneer of civilization to erode. 1414 01:25:45,814 --> 01:25:49,881 And he was now capable of doing things 1415 01:25:49,982 --> 01:25:52,982 that just simply are inhuman. 1416 01:25:55,348 --> 01:25:58,982 I was not willing to allow it to happen on my watch 1417 01:25:59,081 --> 01:26:01,581 and I didn't think it was good for the soldiers 1418 01:26:01,682 --> 01:26:03,114 to do those kinds of things. 1419 01:26:03,215 --> 01:26:07,282 Now, I'm not saying that we didn't do some horrific things. 1420 01:26:07,381 --> 01:26:08,381 We did. 1421 01:26:10,314 --> 01:26:13,881 But there's a difference between being spontaneous 1422 01:26:13,982 --> 01:26:16,482 and being premeditated. 1423 01:26:22,849 --> 01:26:27,082 NARRATOR: Many years later, Robin Harrison, still adrift, 1424 01:26:27,183 --> 01:26:29,248 got caught up in the world of drugs 1425 01:26:29,349 --> 01:26:35,748 and died 10,000 miles from home in a hotel room in Hong Kong, 1426 01:26:35,849 --> 01:26:39,048 another casualty, his brother Matt believed, 1427 01:26:39,149 --> 01:26:41,882 of the war in Vietnam. 1428 01:26:44,948 --> 01:26:48,582 ("Magic Carpet Ride" by Steppenwolf playing) 1429 01:26:51,582 --> 01:26:53,882 d I like to dream 1430 01:26:53,983 --> 01:27:00,048 d Yes, yes, right between my sound machine d 1431 01:27:00,149 --> 01:27:02,948 d On a cloud of sound I drift in the night d 1432 01:27:03,048 --> 01:27:04,683 d Any place it goes is right 1433 01:27:04,783 --> 01:27:08,483 d Goes far, flies near, to the stars away from here d 1434 01:27:08,582 --> 01:27:10,716 d Well, you don't know... 1435 01:27:10,815 --> 01:27:12,815 MERRILL McPEAK: I dropped a bomb one afternoon 1436 01:27:12,916 --> 01:27:15,783 that must have had a broken fin or something on the bomb. 1437 01:27:15,882 --> 01:27:19,183 It just went crazy, went over and hit, you know, 1438 01:27:19,283 --> 01:27:21,883 a mile away from where I was aiming. 1439 01:27:21,984 --> 01:27:28,650 And it started a series of secondary explosions, 1440 01:27:28,749 --> 01:27:31,883 meaning that I had hit an ammunition dump, 1441 01:27:31,984 --> 01:27:33,460 or a cache of ammunition or something. 1442 01:27:33,484 --> 01:27:35,316 So it cooked off for 15 minutes. 1443 01:27:35,417 --> 01:27:39,116 As we were leaving, the thing was still blowing up. 1444 01:27:39,217 --> 01:27:41,816 The best result I achieved in a year, 1445 01:27:41,917 --> 01:27:45,150 it was a result of a gross miss from what I was aiming at. 1446 01:27:45,249 --> 01:27:49,784 Now that's the exact reverse of how you want to use air power. 1447 01:27:51,549 --> 01:27:54,650 NARRATOR: Major Merrill McPeak was a crack fighter pilot 1448 01:27:54,749 --> 01:27:58,816 when he arrived in Vietnam in late 1968. 1449 01:27:58,917 --> 01:28:02,784 At first, he had helped provide air support for the Army, 1450 01:28:02,883 --> 01:28:07,249 with a guaranteed number of sorties per day, he remembered, 1451 01:28:07,350 --> 01:28:10,316 "whether or not they had anything in front of them 1452 01:28:10,417 --> 01:28:11,717 worth blowing up." 1453 01:28:14,150 --> 01:28:17,184 MERRILL McPEAK: At the end of any sortie where we dropped bombs 1454 01:28:17,284 --> 01:28:19,249 on what we called "trees in contact" 1455 01:28:19,350 --> 01:28:21,917 because there was nothing important down there, 1456 01:28:22,016 --> 01:28:24,884 we would always get back a list of bomb damage assessment 1457 01:28:24,985 --> 01:28:26,450 from the forward air controller. 1458 01:28:26,550 --> 01:28:31,651 And it would be, like, "12 supply sources destroyed, 1459 01:28:31,750 --> 01:28:34,117 two structures collapsed." 1460 01:28:34,218 --> 01:28:35,617 All these metrics. 1461 01:28:35,718 --> 01:28:37,584 It was phony. 1462 01:28:37,685 --> 01:28:38,851 Just a waste of time. 1463 01:28:40,851 --> 01:28:44,285 NARRATOR: Then, McPeak was assigned to a top-secret squadron 1464 01:28:44,384 --> 01:28:47,050 seeking to pinpoint men and supplies 1465 01:28:47,151 --> 01:28:50,384 moving on the Ho Chi Minh Trail in Laos. 1466 01:28:50,485 --> 01:28:54,485 He and his fellow pilots called their unit Misty, 1467 01:28:54,584 --> 01:28:57,718 after its radio call sign. 1468 01:28:57,817 --> 01:28:59,450 McPEAK: I spent four months in Misty. 1469 01:28:59,550 --> 01:29:03,117 And that was the best four months of the war, 1470 01:29:03,218 --> 01:29:04,617 as far as I'm concerned, 1471 01:29:04,718 --> 01:29:08,117 because what we were doing was simple, straightforward, 1472 01:29:08,218 --> 01:29:09,617 and made sense. 1473 01:29:09,718 --> 01:29:13,450 We want to stop traffic from A to B down this dirt road. 1474 01:29:13,550 --> 01:29:16,485 That I can understand. 1475 01:29:16,584 --> 01:29:19,750 Somebody in Saigon wasn't saying, 1476 01:29:19,851 --> 01:29:22,550 "Go bomb trees at such-and-such a location." 1477 01:29:22,651 --> 01:29:25,451 We went out and actually found the target. 1478 01:29:34,818 --> 01:29:36,518 NARRATOR: It was dangerous work. 1479 01:29:36,618 --> 01:29:41,451 One out of five pilots was shot down. 1480 01:29:43,818 --> 01:29:45,219 (radio chatter) 1481 01:29:49,885 --> 01:29:53,885 Misty put up seven sorties a day from dawn to dusk, 1482 01:29:53,986 --> 01:29:57,152 on the lookout for signs of human activity... 1483 01:29:57,251 --> 01:30:02,451 gardens, encampments, roadside trees coated with dust, 1484 01:30:02,551 --> 01:30:06,618 or wet roads on either side of fords 1485 01:30:06,719 --> 01:30:11,719 that signaled a truck convoy had recently passed through. 1486 01:30:15,751 --> 01:30:18,852 McPEAK: I have enormous respect for those truck drivers. 1487 01:30:20,486 --> 01:30:22,419 They left their homes in the North, 1488 01:30:22,518 --> 01:30:26,385 and they weren't drafted for a year or two. 1489 01:30:26,486 --> 01:30:28,086 They just left and didn't know 1490 01:30:28,187 --> 01:30:30,153 if they were ever going to come back. 1491 01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:35,619 NARRATOR: Although McPeak and his fellow pilots did not know it, 1492 01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:37,386 among the drivers threading their way 1493 01:30:37,487 --> 01:30:41,252 down the Ho Chi Minh Trail by night were hundreds of women. 1494 01:30:44,220 --> 01:30:48,319 NGUYEN NGUYET ANH: 1495 01:31:06,552 --> 01:31:10,153 NARRATOR: For three years, Nguyen Nguyet Anh drove her section 1496 01:31:10,252 --> 01:31:16,853 of the Trail, ferrying arms and supplies south, 1497 01:31:16,952 --> 01:31:21,619 then heading back north with cargoes of wounded men. 1498 01:31:34,820 --> 01:31:37,053 McPEAK: They drove in stages. 1499 01:31:37,154 --> 01:31:40,087 So they knew 15, 20 clicks of the road. 1500 01:31:40,188 --> 01:31:42,654 And they drove from A to B and back to A. 1501 01:31:47,087 --> 01:31:48,887 And then they rested, during the daytime, 1502 01:31:48,988 --> 01:31:51,988 and then the next night, they drove from A to B and back to A. 1503 01:31:53,387 --> 01:31:57,854 They had kind of memorized the road, which was very important, 1504 01:31:57,953 --> 01:32:00,553 because they were running without lights at night. 1505 01:32:25,953 --> 01:32:27,154 (jet engine roars) 1506 01:32:36,554 --> 01:32:40,121 McPEAK: One time I stumbled across a bunch of trucks backed up, 1507 01:32:40,222 --> 01:32:42,554 and that was a great morning for me. 1508 01:32:42,655 --> 01:32:44,888 Occasionally one of 'em would break down, 1509 01:32:44,989 --> 01:32:46,789 in a spot where the trucks behind it 1510 01:32:46,888 --> 01:32:48,831 would get trapped and couldn't back out of there. 1511 01:32:48,855 --> 01:32:53,888 So you try to strafe the last truck, so that it can't move. 1512 01:32:56,355 --> 01:32:59,088 And these are one-lane roads. 1513 01:32:59,189 --> 01:33:02,388 So once you get the back truck disabled, 1514 01:33:02,489 --> 01:33:04,722 then you just call in fighters. 1515 01:33:06,155 --> 01:33:08,489 You're shooting fish in a barrel. 1516 01:33:12,989 --> 01:33:16,888 NARRATOR: As she drove the Ho Chi Minh Trail, Anh thought constantly 1517 01:33:16,989 --> 01:33:19,689 of her fiancA� Tran Cong Thang, 1518 01:33:19,789 --> 01:33:25,021 an army engineer she'd fallen in love with four years earlier. 1519 01:33:25,121 --> 01:33:29,254 He was also stationed somewhere on the Trail. 1520 01:34:24,055 --> 01:34:28,889 NARRATOR: Over 20,000 engineers, soldiers, and truck drivers died 1521 01:34:28,990 --> 01:34:32,156 along the Ho Chi Minh Trail. 1522 01:34:32,255 --> 01:34:36,423 72 military cemeteries would eventually be required 1523 01:34:36,522 --> 01:34:38,791 to hold their remains. 1524 01:34:59,323 --> 01:35:02,090 McPEAK: We dropped more tonnage of munitions 1525 01:35:02,191 --> 01:35:07,357 than the United States dropped in World War II, 1526 01:35:07,456 --> 01:35:10,323 most of it aimed at the Ho Chi Minh Trail. 1527 01:35:12,491 --> 01:35:14,890 We did not stop traffic down the trail. 1528 01:35:14,991 --> 01:35:18,424 And that is a big disappointment for me. 1529 01:35:18,523 --> 01:35:21,023 To this day, it irritates me. 1530 01:35:23,191 --> 01:35:26,523 The real failures were made at the policy level. 1531 01:35:28,623 --> 01:35:31,991 We were fighting on the wrong side. 1532 01:35:32,090 --> 01:35:35,724 The South, the government in the South was corrupt. 1533 01:35:35,823 --> 01:35:38,056 And its people knew it. 1534 01:35:38,157 --> 01:35:39,157 And we knew it. 1535 01:35:40,591 --> 01:35:41,858 I'll tell you something, 1536 01:35:41,957 --> 01:35:44,257 those truck drivers fought very well. 1537 01:35:44,358 --> 01:35:48,925 I would have been proud to fight with them. 1538 01:35:49,024 --> 01:35:51,492 So one of the things you got to do when you go to war 1539 01:35:51,591 --> 01:35:53,124 is pick the right side, okay. 1540 01:35:53,225 --> 01:35:54,492 Get the right allies. 1541 01:35:58,792 --> 01:36:03,192 NARRATOR: Merrill McPeak would serve 37 years and retire 1542 01:36:03,292 --> 01:36:05,792 as Air Force chief of staff. 1543 01:36:08,425 --> 01:36:12,257 Nguyen Nguyet Anh and Tran Cong Thang were reunited 1544 01:36:12,358 --> 01:36:15,024 after the war and married. 1545 01:36:19,192 --> 01:36:22,557 The peace we seek to win 1546 01:36:22,658 --> 01:36:27,225 is not victory over any other people, 1547 01:36:27,324 --> 01:36:31,692 but the peace that comes with healing in its wings; 1548 01:36:31,792 --> 01:36:34,658 with compassion for those who have suffered; 1549 01:36:34,757 --> 01:36:37,658 with understanding for those who have opposed us; 1550 01:36:37,757 --> 01:36:41,292 with the opportunity for all the peoples of this earth 1551 01:36:41,391 --> 01:36:43,226 to choose their own destiny. 1552 01:36:43,325 --> 01:36:45,926 ("Lonely Road" by the Sandals playing) 1553 01:36:46,025 --> 01:36:47,458 NARRATOR: Like Lyndon Johnson, 1554 01:36:47,558 --> 01:36:52,325 Richard Nixon had an ambitious agenda for his presidency... 1555 01:36:52,426 --> 01:36:56,592 easing a quarter of a century of tensions with the Soviet Union 1556 01:36:56,693 --> 01:36:58,859 and opening the door to China, 1557 01:36:58,958 --> 01:37:02,758 whose existence the United States had refused to recognize 1558 01:37:02,859 --> 01:37:06,758 since the communists took over in 1949. 1559 01:37:06,859 --> 01:37:09,958 But as it had with Johnson, 1560 01:37:10,058 --> 01:37:14,458 the ongoing war in Vietnam threatened all those plans. 1561 01:37:16,426 --> 01:37:21,758 37,563 Americans had died there 1562 01:37:21,859 --> 01:37:24,558 by the time he took the oath of office. 1563 01:37:24,659 --> 01:37:28,392 "I'm not going to end up like LBJ, 1564 01:37:28,493 --> 01:37:30,426 "holed up in the White House, 1565 01:37:30,525 --> 01:37:32,659 afraid to show my face on the street," 1566 01:37:32,758 --> 01:37:34,793 Richard Nixon told an aide. 1567 01:37:34,892 --> 01:37:36,758 "I'm going to stop that war. 1568 01:37:36,859 --> 01:37:38,325 Fast." 1569 01:37:38,426 --> 01:37:42,958 Nixon's national security advisor was Henry Kissinger. 1570 01:37:43,058 --> 01:37:47,393 A refugee from Nazi Germany, he had taught government at Harvard 1571 01:37:47,494 --> 01:37:51,227 and was already a well-known advocate of a foreign policy 1572 01:37:51,326 --> 01:37:54,860 based on pragmatism, not ideology. 1573 01:37:54,959 --> 01:37:59,660 "Give us six months," Kissinger told a group of Quakers 1574 01:37:59,759 --> 01:38:01,927 demonstrating on Pennsylvania Avenue, 1575 01:38:02,026 --> 01:38:06,494 "and if we haven't ended the war by then, you can come back 1576 01:38:06,593 --> 01:38:08,694 and tear down the White House fence." 1577 01:38:11,626 --> 01:38:17,294 In February of 1969, the North launched yet another offensive. 1578 01:38:19,893 --> 01:38:24,794 This time, they killed 1,100 Americans in just three weeks. 1579 01:38:28,626 --> 01:38:31,059 Nixon did not feel he could retaliate 1580 01:38:31,160 --> 01:38:33,494 by resuming the bombing of the North 1581 01:38:33,593 --> 01:38:37,393 for fear of provoking the antiwar movement at home. 1582 01:38:37,494 --> 01:38:43,626 So in March, he secretly ordered B-52s to begin attacking 1583 01:38:43,727 --> 01:38:45,893 the North Vietnamese bases within Cambodia, 1584 01:38:45,994 --> 01:38:50,260 which had offered sanctuary to the enemy for years. 1585 01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:54,661 The American public was told nothing about the bombing. 1586 01:38:54,760 --> 01:38:58,661 Congress was kept in the dark, as well. 1587 01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:02,460 Even members of Nixon's own cabinet 1588 01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:04,928 were not initially informed. 1589 01:39:07,495 --> 01:39:11,495 When theNew York Ti mes finally discovered what was happening, 1590 01:39:11,594 --> 01:39:14,861 the White House denied any bombing was taking place 1591 01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:18,661 and ordered that illegal wiretaps be placed 1592 01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:21,260 on the telephones of 17 reporters 1593 01:39:21,361 --> 01:39:22,995 and government officials 1594 01:39:23,094 --> 01:39:26,861 in an effort to find out who had leaked the story. 1595 01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:29,995 "We will not make the same old mistakes," 1596 01:39:30,094 --> 01:39:32,228 Henry Kissinger had joked to an aide 1597 01:39:32,327 --> 01:39:34,960 shortly after coming to Washington. 1598 01:39:35,060 --> 01:39:37,195 "We will make our own." 1599 01:39:40,195 --> 01:39:42,327 The war went on. 1600 01:39:42,428 --> 01:39:45,594 (helicopter blades whirring, men shouting) 1601 01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:51,761 (gunfire) 1602 01:39:51,862 --> 01:39:55,528 MARLANTES: There's basically two sides to heroism. 1603 01:39:55,628 --> 01:39:57,761 One is that I want to be special. 1604 01:39:57,862 --> 01:40:00,296 I want people to look at me, I'm an important person. 1605 01:40:00,395 --> 01:40:02,095 I've done heroic deeds. 1606 01:40:04,895 --> 01:40:08,328 The other side is simply somebody's got to do something 1607 01:40:08,429 --> 01:40:12,961 to save these people, my platoon or my company, from destruction. 1608 01:40:13,061 --> 01:40:18,328 The exact same act can be done with one attitude or the other. 1609 01:40:22,296 --> 01:40:26,196 NARRATOR: After leaving Oxford, First Lieutenant Karl Marlantes 1610 01:40:26,296 --> 01:40:29,862 found himself executive officer of Charlie Company, 1611 01:40:29,961 --> 01:40:33,828 First Battalion, Fourth Marines, Third Marine Division, 1612 01:40:33,929 --> 01:40:36,461 just south of the DMZ. 1613 01:40:36,561 --> 01:40:40,461 His unit was fighting the same sort of war 1614 01:40:40,561 --> 01:40:43,929 over the same terrain that Marines had been fighting now 1615 01:40:44,028 --> 01:40:45,595 for four years. 1616 01:40:45,696 --> 01:40:47,571 MARLANTES: You would hear, "Well, it's going to be 1617 01:40:47,595 --> 01:40:50,496 Operation Purple Martin I or Operation Scotland II." 1618 01:40:50,595 --> 01:40:52,562 And, and it'd be like, "Yeah, whatever." 1619 01:40:52,663 --> 01:40:55,829 What that meant to us was that someday soon 1620 01:40:55,930 --> 01:40:57,962 some choppers are going to show up and drop us 1621 01:40:58,062 --> 01:41:00,497 into the jungle someplace or a valley north of us 1622 01:41:00,596 --> 01:41:01,836 or wherever it was going to be. 1623 01:41:01,896 --> 01:41:03,363 And then we'd be off the hill 1624 01:41:03,462 --> 01:41:05,363 and we'd be humping, as we called it. 1625 01:41:09,329 --> 01:41:13,697 NARRATOR: On March 5, 1969, Marlantes' company was ordered 1626 01:41:13,797 --> 01:41:17,262 to attack a regiment of North Vietnamese regulars 1627 01:41:17,363 --> 01:41:22,497 dug in on the slopes of a hill the Americans called 484. 1628 01:41:22,596 --> 01:41:26,596 A few days earlier, his unit had taken the hill 1629 01:41:26,697 --> 01:41:29,762 and then, under heavy fire, had abandoned it. 1630 01:41:29,863 --> 01:41:34,363 This time air strikes meant to soften up the enemy 1631 01:41:34,462 --> 01:41:36,596 hit the wrong hill. 1632 01:41:36,697 --> 01:41:41,230 Charlie Company was ordered to advance anyway. 1633 01:41:41,329 --> 01:41:43,997 Marlantes led the way. 1634 01:41:45,329 --> 01:41:47,129 MARLANTES: It was a very steep hill. 1635 01:41:47,230 --> 01:41:51,262 And you don't charge because you have a lot of weight. 1636 01:41:51,363 --> 01:41:53,663 And we had started walking up and we had probably gotten 1637 01:41:53,762 --> 01:41:55,530 about a third of the way up the hill 1638 01:41:55,630 --> 01:41:56,998 and then they unleashed on us. 1639 01:42:00,597 --> 01:42:02,506 We were in the middle of this horrible shit sandwich. 1640 01:42:02,530 --> 01:42:04,630 (gunfire, explosions) 1641 01:42:04,731 --> 01:42:06,731 NARRATOR: The Marines took what cover they could. 1642 01:42:06,830 --> 01:42:10,630 Marlantes realized that if they continued up the slope 1643 01:42:10,731 --> 01:42:13,931 they would face machine gun fire, 1644 01:42:14,030 --> 01:42:15,563 but if they stayed where they were, 1645 01:42:15,664 --> 01:42:18,130 mortar shells would surely find them. 1646 01:42:18,231 --> 01:42:19,597 (explosion) 1647 01:42:21,630 --> 01:42:23,463 MARLANTES: And then I stood up 1648 01:42:23,563 --> 01:42:25,530 and went up the hill. 1649 01:42:25,630 --> 01:42:28,530 And I thought it was... I was all by myself. 1650 01:42:28,630 --> 01:42:30,763 And I was running at this point 1651 01:42:30,864 --> 01:42:34,998 because I wanted to cover that ground fast as I could. 1652 01:42:35,097 --> 01:42:37,830 And I caught some movement out of the corner of my eye, 1653 01:42:37,931 --> 01:42:40,830 and I rolled to the ground to come up with my rifle 1654 01:42:40,931 --> 01:42:43,931 to shoot the person. 1655 01:42:44,030 --> 01:42:46,830 And it was a kid from my platoon. 1656 01:42:46,931 --> 01:42:50,298 And then I looked behind him, there was more kids. 1657 01:42:50,397 --> 01:42:53,530 They had all come behind me. 1658 01:42:53,630 --> 01:42:55,897 It felt to me like I was there for a week 1659 01:42:55,998 --> 01:42:57,531 but I think I was probably by myself 1660 01:42:57,631 --> 01:43:01,732 four seconds, five seconds. 1661 01:43:01,831 --> 01:43:06,898 The entire platoon just stood up and out they came. 1662 01:43:06,999 --> 01:43:09,564 It remains to me a moment that is just 1663 01:43:09,665 --> 01:43:15,831 almost inexpressible of the heart that these kids had. 1664 01:43:15,932 --> 01:43:16,932 (explosion, gunfire) 1665 01:43:17,031 --> 01:43:19,331 And then we just hit those bunkers. 1666 01:43:19,432 --> 01:43:23,264 NARRATOR: The Marines cleared the bunkers one by one. 1667 01:43:31,064 --> 01:43:36,531 For his bravery, Marlantes was awarded the Navy Cross. 1668 01:43:36,631 --> 01:43:40,531 MARLANTES: Combat is like crack cocaine. 1669 01:43:40,631 --> 01:43:44,764 It's an enormous high but it has enormous costs. 1670 01:43:44,865 --> 01:43:48,932 Any sane person would never do crack. 1671 01:43:49,031 --> 01:43:51,764 Combat is like that. 1672 01:43:51,865 --> 01:43:55,464 You're scared, you're terrified, you're miserable, 1673 01:43:55,564 --> 01:43:58,165 but then the fighting starts... 1674 01:43:58,264 --> 01:44:01,965 (gunfire) 1675 01:44:02,065 --> 01:44:04,599 ...and suddenly everything is at stake... 1676 01:44:04,700 --> 01:44:06,565 your life, your friend's lives. 1677 01:44:06,666 --> 01:44:08,933 It's almost transcendence 1678 01:44:09,032 --> 01:44:11,565 because you're no longer a person. 1679 01:44:11,666 --> 01:44:14,166 You lose that sense; you're just... you're just the platoon. 1680 01:44:14,265 --> 01:44:17,632 And the platoon can't be beat. 1681 01:44:17,733 --> 01:44:19,666 And not to mention there's a savage joy 1682 01:44:19,765 --> 01:44:22,500 in overcoming your enemy, just a savage joy. 1683 01:44:22,599 --> 01:44:25,565 And I think that we make a big mistake if we say, 1684 01:44:25,666 --> 01:44:26,832 "Oh, war is hell." 1685 01:44:26,933 --> 01:44:29,132 We all know the "war is hell" story. 1686 01:44:29,233 --> 01:44:30,733 It is. 1687 01:44:30,832 --> 01:44:35,632 But there's an enormously exhilarating part of it. 1688 01:44:38,632 --> 01:44:42,632 Preuzeto sa www.titlovi.com 137731

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