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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,267 --> 00:00:10,933 The following program was made possible by a grant... 2 00:00:11,099 --> 00:00:13,883 ... from the Kenneth C. and Mary E. Blackburn Foundation... 3 00:00:14,056 --> 00:00:19,210 ... the Samuel Jones Charitable Trust and individual viewer donations. 4 00:00:20,262 --> 00:00:23,508 Why? That's the right question. 5 00:00:23,678 --> 00:00:26,295 Your bread and butter, huh? Having the right questions. 6 00:00:26,468 --> 00:00:28,837 Like having the right answers is yours. 7 00:00:29,009 --> 00:00:30,750 - Did we start? - Nope. 8 00:00:30,925 --> 00:00:32,547 - Don't mind them. - Right, right. 9 00:00:32,924 --> 00:00:35,458 Why am I letting you tail me, that what you're asking? 10 00:00:35,631 --> 00:00:38,663 I mean, I pitch, but I'm always surprised when people accept. 11 00:00:38,838 --> 00:00:41,373 - Well, I'd seen your work. - Well, exactly. 12 00:00:41,546 --> 00:00:44,542 And, you know, I'm not expecting a free ride. 13 00:00:44,711 --> 00:00:47,708 I just... I guess I thought your... 14 00:00:47,877 --> 00:00:52,946 Your concept, a day in the life... A day in my life is... 15 00:00:53,124 --> 00:00:56,287 Before we get into it, I wanna reiterate the ground rules. 16 00:00:56,457 --> 00:00:59,453 You wanna document this, Chad? Let me have that. 17 00:00:59,664 --> 00:01:01,369 I wanna be clear between you and me. 18 00:01:01,538 --> 00:01:03,196 - Of course. - Your access is to me. 19 00:01:03,370 --> 00:01:06,202 - And your staff and coworkers. - Yes, but if you're hoping... 20 00:01:06,369 --> 00:01:08,608 ...for time with senior staff or in the Oval... 21 00:01:08,785 --> 00:01:10,905 ...you picked the wrong gal. Not what I do. 22 00:01:11,076 --> 00:01:13,610 I can't let this project compromise my obligations... 23 00:01:13,783 --> 00:01:15,820 ...to the president of the United States. 24 00:01:15,991 --> 00:01:18,774 - I was bragging. - Let's get back to why. 25 00:01:18,948 --> 00:01:21,898 Well, I think, and... 26 00:01:28,028 --> 00:01:30,775 After President Bartlet, my face is the most associated... 27 00:01:30,943 --> 00:01:34,887 ...with this administration, yet for all its visibility, it's not well understood. 28 00:01:37,107 --> 00:01:40,472 The public's used to seeing me confronting an adversarial press... 29 00:01:40,648 --> 00:01:43,893 ...and there's a misconception that I'm here to stymie reporters... 30 00:01:44,063 --> 00:01:48,635 ...or to mislead the public, to spin or even hide the truth... 31 00:01:48,811 --> 00:01:53,348 ...when, in fact, any good press secretary aims to do just the opposite. 32 00:01:54,267 --> 00:01:56,885 This is a terrible idea. 33 00:01:57,058 --> 00:02:00,504 I don't know what I was thinking. This is such... Let's call this off. 34 00:02:00,723 --> 00:02:02,381 The breakneck pace we live at... 35 00:02:02,556 --> 00:02:05,885 ...the 24-hour news cycle. Is this good for the country? 36 00:02:06,054 --> 00:02:10,627 Is it inescapable? How do we reflect, get perspective? 37 00:02:10,803 --> 00:02:13,634 Since the advent of TV in the middle of the 20th century... 38 00:02:13,843 --> 00:02:17,586 ... the White House press secretary has been no stranger to Americans. 39 00:02:17,758 --> 00:02:20,127 But what about the private aspects of this office? 40 00:02:20,299 --> 00:02:23,877 In the current media explosion, how is this important job changing? 41 00:02:24,047 --> 00:02:25,954 And to what extent does the individual... 42 00:02:26,130 --> 00:02:28,333 ... serving as press secretary at any moment... 43 00:02:28,546 --> 00:02:32,206 ... define America 's relationship with the White House? 44 00:02:32,377 --> 00:02:34,663 To answer these questions, Access spent a day... 45 00:02:34,835 --> 00:02:37,536 ... with White House Press Secretary C.J. Cregg. 46 00:02:39,250 --> 00:02:41,286 I see my job as making sure the press... 47 00:02:41,457 --> 00:02:43,861 ...and through them, the public, is well informed. 48 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,697 I tell them the truth. 49 00:02:48,954 --> 00:02:51,359 - That's my goal. - But our cameras captured a day... 50 00:02:51,537 --> 00:02:53,657 ... that was anything but ordinary. 51 00:02:53,827 --> 00:02:56,659 In the corridors of the West Wing, Access became part... 52 00:02:56,826 --> 00:03:00,653 ... of the modern media machine that witnessed a harrowing and historic day... 53 00:03:00,866 --> 00:03:03,436 ... for the entire Bartlet administration. 54 00:03:03,615 --> 00:03:06,565 Tonight, Access goes behind the podium... 55 00:03:06,739 --> 00:03:09,604 ... and we invite you to come with us. 56 00:03:57,592 --> 00:04:00,004 This program was shot over a two-day period... 57 00:04:00,183 --> 00:04:03,392 ... a year into president Josiah Bartlet's second term in office. 58 00:04:03,860 --> 00:04:06,153 On the first day, Access conducted interviews... 59 00:04:06,325 --> 00:04:09,998 ... with Press Secretary C.J. Cregg, her staff and her coworkers. 60 00:04:10,170 --> 00:04:14,092 The following day, we spent over 12 hours backstage in the White House... 61 00:04:14,265 --> 00:04:17,640 ... on the heels of the country's most visible spokesperson. 62 00:04:17,817 --> 00:04:21,406 However, for national security purposes, the release of this documentary... 63 00:04:21,578 --> 00:04:24,834 ... was prohibited until the administration left office. 64 00:04:25,882 --> 00:04:28,294 Before 24-hour cable news and the Internet... 65 00:04:28,473 --> 00:04:32,264 ... the White House press secretary had a more controlled set of deadlines. 66 00:04:32,484 --> 00:04:36,406 Today, the press office feeds a media machine with a round-the-clock appetite. 67 00:04:36,579 --> 00:04:39,586 The following is the president's press schedule for March 31 st. 68 00:04:41,510 --> 00:04:43,637 This is for news planning only, not release. 69 00:04:43,850 --> 00:04:47,023 Sixty-six million Americans subscribe to daily newspapers. 70 00:04:47,193 --> 00:04:50,200 An average news website clocks 200 hits a second. 71 00:04:50,411 --> 00:04:53,287 And from a camera positioned outside the northwest gate... 72 00:04:53,461 --> 00:04:56,171 ... CNN's Channel 53 offers constant coverage... 73 00:04:56,345 --> 00:04:58,091 ... of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. 74 00:04:58,267 --> 00:05:00,560 I don't think it was ever a laid-back job. 75 00:05:01,401 --> 00:05:05,240 But I like to think that Jim Haggerty, who was Eisenhower's press secretary... 76 00:05:05,412 --> 00:05:07,955 ...kind of knew what they were getting into... 77 00:05:08,129 --> 00:05:10,505 ...when they started allowing press conferences... 78 00:05:10,678 --> 00:05:13,256 ...to be recorded for broadcast for the first time. 79 00:05:13,812 --> 00:05:15,523 Giving up control of your message... 80 00:05:15,692 --> 00:05:17,938 ...putting that in the hands of news producers. 81 00:05:18,116 --> 00:05:21,241 For those 33 minutes Haggerty stood in the Indian Treaty Room... 82 00:05:21,417 --> 00:05:23,413 ...I can only imagine what he was feeling. 83 00:05:23,590 --> 00:05:25,919 I see we're trying a new experiment this morning. 84 00:05:26,097 --> 00:05:29,686 I hope it doesn 't prove to be a disturbing influence. 85 00:05:29,858 --> 00:05:32,187 Before Eisenhower, the White House press corps... 86 00:05:32,365 --> 00:05:35,740 ... was a controllable entity, tucked in the president's pocket. 87 00:05:35,917 --> 00:05:38,923 But in 1955, the whir of cameras leveled the playing field... 88 00:05:39,135 --> 00:05:41,809 ... between the press and the administration. 89 00:05:41,976 --> 00:05:44,602 It represented a fundamental shift in power... 90 00:05:44,776 --> 00:05:48,697 ... one still deeply felt by today's press secretary. 91 00:05:48,913 --> 00:05:52,038 Morning, Ms. Cregg. ID, please. And I need IDs from your crew. 92 00:05:52,256 --> 00:05:54,336 My day starts at home before 5, actually. 93 00:05:54,554 --> 00:05:57,680 I scan all the major news outlets online before I get dressed. 94 00:05:57,855 --> 00:06:01,064 On my way in, I try to stay off the phone. 95 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:05,115 My commute's the one time I can be by myself, gather my thoughts. 96 00:06:05,293 --> 00:06:08,216 - How's Eden? - Oh, she's great. Thanks for asking. 97 00:06:08,385 --> 00:06:11,095 - Clear. Thank you, have a great day. - Thanks. Stay dry. 98 00:06:11,269 --> 00:06:12,600 Relax. 99 00:06:12,773 --> 00:06:16,564 - White House press office. - I arrive usually around 7, 7:30... 100 00:06:16,743 --> 00:06:20,665 ...depending, and it is no clich�, walking through those doors... 101 00:06:20,838 --> 00:06:23,845 ...walking to go to work in the White House... 102 00:06:24,014 --> 00:06:25,345 ...it never gets old. 103 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,138 Anyway, the morning starts with senior staff... 104 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,237 ...then I have a gaggle with the press. 105 00:06:30,407 --> 00:06:33,616 Then I meet with my staff and deputies about the events of the day. 106 00:06:33,834 --> 00:06:37,006 8:30 a.m., the president meets with House and Senate leadership... 107 00:06:37,177 --> 00:06:39,007 ...Cabinet Room, the White House. 108 00:06:39,182 --> 00:06:41,512 - Is anybody waiting for me? - Steve and Chris. 109 00:06:41,690 --> 00:06:44,899 Is she chatty? That's trouble. 110 00:06:45,074 --> 00:06:46,987 - Is he on the president's schedule? - Who? 111 00:06:47,164 --> 00:06:48,827 - The FBI director. - Don't think so. 112 00:06:49,002 --> 00:06:51,415 Steve's looking for a quote on tech-sector growth. 113 00:06:51,593 --> 00:06:55,384 Hey, Steve, I beg mercy. Don't make me talk tech growth before coffee. 114 00:06:55,563 --> 00:06:58,605 I will say this: The tech sector represents 6 million jobs. 115 00:06:58,781 --> 00:07:01,193 - That I can look up. - Your daughter hear anything? 116 00:07:01,371 --> 00:07:03,284 Accepted at the Annenberg School at Penn. 117 00:07:03,461 --> 00:07:06,171 - That's wonderful. - Isn't that great? Thank you. 118 00:07:06,344 --> 00:07:07,972 - What you got? - Not gonna like it. 119 00:07:08,141 --> 00:07:10,471 - I never expect to. - At last year's inaugural... 120 00:07:10,648 --> 00:07:14,023 ...the first lady wore a Richard Tyler gown, satin off-the-shoulder. 121 00:07:14,242 --> 00:07:17,248 I have a source that says she accepted that gown as a gift. 122 00:07:17,418 --> 00:07:20,128 - The ethics rules are clear. - I'll be rifling through... 123 00:07:20,301 --> 00:07:23,141 ...the first lady's closet. - You could get fired for that. 124 00:07:23,310 --> 00:07:26,233 - lf I'm lucky. - Today's schedule, and it's time. 125 00:07:26,402 --> 00:07:28,898 You can't afford to ignore what even seems trivial. 126 00:07:29,076 --> 00:07:31,786 And I have a call in to the first lady's office. 127 00:07:32,545 --> 00:07:35,884 The minister's wife has a cold and she can't make it onto the podium. 128 00:07:36,055 --> 00:07:41,106 Remember the Bartlet-the-dog-hater? That was entirely my fault. 129 00:07:41,278 --> 00:07:44,653 I made light of some question why the Bartlets had never owned a dog... 130 00:07:44,830 --> 00:07:46,660 ...and there were stories for weeks. 131 00:07:46,877 --> 00:07:50,550 It was a joke, folks. It was my joke, and it wasn 't even funny. 132 00:07:50,722 --> 00:07:53,479 The president does not dislike dogs. The entire family... 133 00:07:53,647 --> 00:07:57,652 ... have been longtime supporters of the Humane Society, the ASPCA... 134 00:07:57,826 --> 00:08:01,284 Each morning, the press secretary meets with White House senior staff... 135 00:08:01,461 --> 00:08:03,172 ... the president's closest advisors. 136 00:08:05,055 --> 00:08:07,765 This is the staff's first opportunity to sift through... 137 00:08:07,938 --> 00:08:09,851 ... the day's impending events and issues. 138 00:08:10,028 --> 00:08:13,985 Your day takes off. Keep the balls in the air and don't drop the wrong one. 139 00:08:14,206 --> 00:08:17,082 - What else? - Well, while the president's greeting... 140 00:08:17,257 --> 00:08:20,429 ...the Ugandan delegation, which I guess is gonna happen later... 141 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:25,770 ...I'll be briefed by the surgeon general and the AIDS Policy Office. 142 00:08:25,990 --> 00:08:27,867 They wanna make modifications on PAPP. 143 00:08:28,038 --> 00:08:30,878 - Pan-African...? - AIDS Prevention Policy. 144 00:08:31,046 --> 00:08:36,395 C.J. was someone I found during a senatorial campaign in New York. 145 00:08:36,562 --> 00:08:39,403 She was doing PR with a New York firm. 146 00:08:42,412 --> 00:08:46,500 And we were probably 36 points behind... 147 00:08:46,675 --> 00:08:51,096 ...when we got C.J., and... 148 00:08:51,271 --> 00:08:55,491 ...with her help, I think we gained two or three points before we lost. 149 00:08:55,701 --> 00:08:58,458 - Anything else? - Any progress on the D-day anniversary? 150 00:08:58,626 --> 00:09:02,084 The accelerated release of information is a concern of everyone... 151 00:09:02,261 --> 00:09:03,972 ... in today's White House. 152 00:09:04,142 --> 00:09:07,267 They all have to consider how the message will play in the press. 153 00:09:08,947 --> 00:09:11,240 FBI put something on the president's schedule? 154 00:09:11,413 --> 00:09:13,456 - Who's asking? - So far, just me. 155 00:09:13,669 --> 00:09:15,546 - No. - There have been times where... 156 00:09:15,759 --> 00:09:18,135 ...for her own sake, in order to do her job... 157 00:09:20,021 --> 00:09:24,323 ...and for her to remain an honest source for reporters... 158 00:09:24,534 --> 00:09:28,159 - lf the reporters see the director here... - Yeah, he's just stopping by. 159 00:09:28,629 --> 00:09:32,586 If she were to have information, she would be ethically bound to share it... 160 00:09:32,766 --> 00:09:35,689 ...and I don't wanna put her in that position. 161 00:09:35,900 --> 00:09:38,230 It is a tough job. And it only gets tougher. 162 00:09:39,995 --> 00:09:43,585 We have a fraternity of former press secretaries, we get together, a club. 163 00:09:43,756 --> 00:09:46,049 There's maybe eight or so guys still kicking. 164 00:09:46,263 --> 00:09:48,556 We all know what it's like to stand out there... 165 00:09:48,728 --> 00:09:50,855 ...taking those bullets, shrapnel's flying... 166 00:09:51,027 --> 00:09:54,236 ...while the rest of the president's staff is back in the bunker... 167 00:09:54,412 --> 00:09:56,574 ...safe and sound, where they should be. 168 00:09:56,793 --> 00:09:59,420 You see, there's a loneliness in this job. 169 00:09:59,635 --> 00:10:01,678 A certain frontline mentality... 170 00:10:01,850 --> 00:10:04,856 ...that your colleagues in the rear echelon never understand. 171 00:10:05,067 --> 00:10:06,481 We got stills first. 172 00:10:06,655 --> 00:10:09,412 The majority of the president's exposure to the press... 173 00:10:11,210 --> 00:10:15,631 ... is in photo pools. Still photographers wait their turn for a prized 30 seconds... 174 00:10:15,848 --> 00:10:17,679 ... in the presence of the president. 175 00:10:17,854 --> 00:10:20,100 The organized chaos of this flashbulb frenzy... 176 00:10:20,278 --> 00:10:22,488 ... is carefully wrangled by the Press Office... 177 00:10:22,660 --> 00:10:26,415 ... a staff of 14 young aides and assistants under C.J. Cregg. 178 00:10:26,588 --> 00:10:28,750 How did you end up working at the White House? 179 00:10:28,928 --> 00:10:32,802 I was going to NYU. I was a journalism major, always interested in politics... 180 00:10:35,990 --> 00:10:38,782 ...and an opportunity came through friends of the family. 181 00:10:38,957 --> 00:10:40,287 My father's in the military. 182 00:10:40,503 --> 00:10:43,878 I actually went to Howard University here in D.C. 183 00:10:44,055 --> 00:10:47,810 I wrote for the paper, the student paper there. And I was writing articles... 184 00:10:51,033 --> 00:10:53,529 ...criticizing the administration about gay issues... 185 00:10:53,749 --> 00:10:58,004 ...and racial issues. And I, on a lark, kind of wrote this letter to C. J... 186 00:10:58,179 --> 00:11:02,434 ...asking if she'd see me, because I wasn't getting a response from them... 187 00:11:02,650 --> 00:11:05,609 ...and at the meeting, she actually offered me... 188 00:11:05,826 --> 00:11:07,371 ...this position that opened up. 189 00:11:07,539 --> 00:11:08,917 That's it. I'm serious. 190 00:11:09,127 --> 00:11:13,215 10:30 a.m., the president meets with minister of health, Dr. Fabius... 191 00:11:15,186 --> 00:11:17,147 M-A-K-A-B-U-A... 192 00:11:17,317 --> 00:11:21,274 Then it's time for the press secretary's meeting with her communications staff... 193 00:11:23,627 --> 00:11:26,039 ... who try to anticipate the direction of the news. 194 00:11:26,218 --> 00:11:28,464 The Ugandans are on schedule. Setup's begun. 195 00:11:28,641 --> 00:11:32,349 It's a little windy out there, but Audio said the mikes will be fine. 196 00:11:32,528 --> 00:11:36,069 The president is not taking questions. It's just the prepared statement. 197 00:11:36,247 --> 00:11:37,958 - They know that. - Let's hope he does. 198 00:11:38,127 --> 00:11:41,300 They might ask you something about Congresswoman Wyatt... 199 00:11:41,470 --> 00:11:43,763 ...getting chummy with the Palestinians. - Okay. 200 00:11:43,935 --> 00:11:45,766 And we've had a change in the schedule. 201 00:11:45,941 --> 00:11:47,319 - No! - Not already! 202 00:11:47,487 --> 00:11:51,278 You begin every day juggling a very precise schedule, which completely... 203 00:11:51,457 --> 00:11:53,287 ...completely falls apart midmorning. 204 00:11:53,463 --> 00:11:54,841 Guaranteed. 205 00:11:55,009 --> 00:11:56,637 You know those Eagle Rangers? 206 00:11:56,806 --> 00:11:59,646 They apparently got lost. 207 00:11:59,814 --> 00:12:01,811 So we're gonna have to postpone until 2. 208 00:12:01,987 --> 00:12:04,780 - There might be a weather thing. - We like the Rose Garden. 209 00:12:04,954 --> 00:12:08,911 Satellite service says there's only a 30 percent chance of rain, so might be fine. 210 00:12:09,091 --> 00:12:11,587 - Have you looked out the window? - Keep an eye on it. 211 00:12:11,766 --> 00:12:15,223 - Make sure there's a backup plan. - I'll be with Vatican advance all day... 212 00:12:15,401 --> 00:12:17,563 ...discussing His Eminence's imminent arrival. 213 00:12:17,741 --> 00:12:20,237 - I think it's His Holiness. - Eminence is imminent. 214 00:12:20,415 --> 00:12:22,958 - Say that three times fast. - Eminence is imminent... 215 00:12:23,173 --> 00:12:26,014 ...eminence is imminent... - Everybody back to work. 216 00:12:26,391 --> 00:12:28,518 Who's following breaking crime news for me? 217 00:12:28,689 --> 00:12:31,482 Me. Nothing coming in that suggests FBI involvement. 218 00:12:31,656 --> 00:12:34,152 - FBI? - I'm just keeping Eric on his toes. 219 00:12:34,331 --> 00:12:36,660 - Everybody get back to work. - Hold on one second. 220 00:12:37,005 --> 00:12:38,668 - C.J. - Yeah. 221 00:12:38,844 --> 00:12:40,970 I articulate the president's message... 222 00:12:41,142 --> 00:12:44,434 ...and to honestly inform the press, and through them, the public... 223 00:12:44,610 --> 00:12:47,403 ...about what is happening on any given day. 224 00:12:47,619 --> 00:12:50,661 - They need you in Leo's, now. - All of us? 225 00:12:51,463 --> 00:12:53,044 They didn't say. 226 00:12:53,553 --> 00:12:55,513 Okay. No big deal. Okay. 227 00:12:55,684 --> 00:12:58,643 - I'm so sorry. - It's all right. 228 00:13:00,949 --> 00:13:04,158 You think the director of the FBI will let us in this? 229 00:13:04,334 --> 00:13:05,997 Hard to tell. 230 00:13:06,172 --> 00:13:08,632 I gather he's a pretty independent guy. 231 00:13:08,805 --> 00:13:12,145 - He is. - And not afraid of the limelight. 232 00:13:15,115 --> 00:13:17,158 So typical morning so far? 233 00:13:17,580 --> 00:13:20,540 - Yes and no. - Because we're here? 234 00:13:20,714 --> 00:13:23,389 I don't have to tell you about the Heisenberg Principle. 235 00:13:23,556 --> 00:13:25,932 The act of observing a phenomenon changes it. 236 00:13:28,194 --> 00:13:29,691 All right. 237 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:31,531 They signed the waivers. 238 00:13:31,704 --> 00:13:33,784 - I've seen your films. - Yeah? Excuse me. 239 00:13:33,961 --> 00:13:35,506 - Wait a minute. - Good work. 240 00:13:35,674 --> 00:13:37,052 Thank you. Nice to meet you. 241 00:13:37,220 --> 00:13:40,393 Director Arnold, this is Todd Schumaker and Agent Casper. 242 00:13:40,605 --> 00:13:43,445 Director Arnold has a situation unfolding. 243 00:13:43,613 --> 00:13:45,824 It's not for White House comment at this time. 244 00:13:45,995 --> 00:13:49,917 We don't believe you'll be asked about it, but we thought you should be aware. 245 00:13:50,090 --> 00:13:52,765 - Well, I appreciate that. - We have six federal agents... 246 00:13:52,932 --> 00:13:55,142 ...surrounding a remote cabin on Shaw Island... 247 00:13:57,905 --> 00:14:00,400 ...in the San Juans, 20 miles from Washington state. 248 00:14:00,579 --> 00:14:03,586 A man named Jamal Othman, a naturalized Yemeni-American... 249 00:14:03,755 --> 00:14:05,168 ...is inside with his family. 250 00:14:05,384 --> 00:14:07,797 I'm sorry, is he being brought up on charges or...? 251 00:14:07,975 --> 00:14:10,471 Othman was under investigation for arms trafficking. 252 00:14:10,650 --> 00:14:13,228 Our agents tracked him to his current location... 253 00:14:13,408 --> 00:14:15,618 ...where gunfire was exchanged 90 minutes ago. 254 00:14:15,789 --> 00:14:18,665 - Gunfire? - The president has been notified. 255 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,551 We'll let you know when it resolves. 256 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,762 Why do you think I'm not gonna be asked questions about this? 257 00:14:23,938 --> 00:14:27,479 Shaw Island is only accessible by ferry and by float plane. 258 00:14:27,657 --> 00:14:30,200 If this story breaks, it'll take news crews about... 259 00:14:30,373 --> 00:14:32,084 ...45 minutes, an hour and a half. 260 00:14:32,254 --> 00:14:35,379 Our Seattle field office media rep is already setting up on-site. 261 00:14:35,555 --> 00:14:37,266 He's prepared to handle the press. 262 00:14:37,435 --> 00:14:39,812 - When you say gunfire, I mean... - Thank you, C.J. 263 00:14:39,984 --> 00:14:41,529 - All right. I'm just... - Thank you. 264 00:14:41,697 --> 00:14:43,075 Thank you. 265 00:14:43,829 --> 00:14:47,085 I am here to articulate the president's message and to honestly... 266 00:14:47,255 --> 00:14:49,751 ...inform the press and, through them, the public... 267 00:14:49,929 --> 00:14:52,472 ...about what is happening on any given day. 268 00:14:52,687 --> 00:14:54,518 - When we return... - C.J., they have it. 269 00:14:54,693 --> 00:14:57,450 ... breaking news turns the White House upside down. 270 00:14:58,663 --> 00:15:00,993 Is this another Casey Creek? 271 00:15:02,257 --> 00:15:05,049 The White House released the journal numbers... 272 00:15:05,224 --> 00:15:07,600 - You have to calm down! - Okay. Journal numbers... 273 00:15:09,444 --> 00:15:11,321 Early in the day, before the briefing... 274 00:15:11,492 --> 00:15:14,664 ... reporters from the major outlets meet for an informal gaggle... 275 00:15:14,835 --> 00:15:17,509 ...with the secretary. - Why was the FBI director here? 276 00:15:17,676 --> 00:15:20,517 - He briefs the president twice a week. - He did yesterday... 277 00:15:20,727 --> 00:15:23,269 ...so I thought something's up. As far as you know...? 278 00:15:23,443 --> 00:15:26,949 - He's briefing the president. - Is there a danger that the president's...? 279 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,497 Do I ever have to lie to the press? 280 00:15:29,961 --> 00:15:32,291 Sometimes, lots of times... 281 00:15:32,469 --> 00:15:34,549 ...I withhold information for valid reasons. 282 00:15:34,725 --> 00:15:37,482 But you can't lie. You risk damaging your credibility... 283 00:15:37,650 --> 00:15:39,563 ...in front of a bunch of smart people. 284 00:15:39,740 --> 00:15:42,450 And if they stop trusting you, the system's broken. 285 00:15:42,665 --> 00:15:44,875 Do you think she ever has to lie to the press? 286 00:15:45,047 --> 00:15:47,174 That's tough to answer in front of a camera. 287 00:15:49,852 --> 00:15:51,729 No, I don't think C.J. lies. 288 00:15:51,900 --> 00:15:54,610 I think that the press secretary must... 289 00:15:54,783 --> 00:15:58,123 ...present what's best for the White House and for the country. 290 00:15:58,293 --> 00:16:00,789 And sometimes those are hard decisions to make. 291 00:16:01,009 --> 00:16:03,766 - is not over. Speaking of which, we need to wrap up. 292 00:16:03,934 --> 00:16:07,606 Am I skeptical of what she tells me? Absolutely. It's my job to be skeptical. 293 00:16:07,779 --> 00:16:10,321 The public relies on me to question their White House. 294 00:16:12,125 --> 00:16:13,788 We get to do that in a free society. 295 00:16:13,963 --> 00:16:16,375 You could say that's at the core of our freedom. 296 00:16:16,554 --> 00:16:18,099 We get to question power. 297 00:16:18,309 --> 00:16:20,222 Yeah, I don't... I don't buy into that. 298 00:16:20,398 --> 00:16:24,238 I mean, the truth, I know, is an elusive idea. 299 00:16:24,410 --> 00:16:28,462 But there is a time and a place for when certain facts... 300 00:16:28,630 --> 00:16:31,126 ...can be dispensed to the press and to the public. 301 00:16:31,347 --> 00:16:35,019 What prepares a young girl born and raised in Dayton, Ohio... 302 00:16:35,191 --> 00:16:37,901 ... for a position as spokesperson for the White House... 303 00:16:38,074 --> 00:16:40,285 ... and president of the United States? 304 00:16:40,498 --> 00:16:42,791 Well, I got a lot of drive from my father. 305 00:16:43,131 --> 00:16:48,051 But it's actually my mother who I think about almost every single day I'm here. 306 00:16:48,270 --> 00:16:51,111 She was, like a lot of women, for better or for worse... 307 00:16:51,279 --> 00:16:53,192 ...the communicator in our family. 308 00:16:53,410 --> 00:16:55,787 The go-between. 309 00:16:55,959 --> 00:16:59,001 She told us what my dad and grandpa had said... 310 00:16:59,177 --> 00:17:01,339 ...or she softened what they had meant to say. 311 00:17:01,517 --> 00:17:04,013 She was a natural. She would've understood this job. 312 00:17:04,233 --> 00:17:06,360 The pope will have the chair we agreed upon. 313 00:17:06,531 --> 00:17:08,194 One of the hardest things to learn: 314 00:17:10,459 --> 00:17:12,420 There are so many true crises... 315 00:17:12,590 --> 00:17:16,132 ...so many lurking situations that could be dangerous for the president... 316 00:17:16,309 --> 00:17:20,101 ...it's hard not to get caught up in the adrenaline and make everything lethal. 317 00:17:20,321 --> 00:17:22,995 - in allowing the president's audience to be shared. 318 00:17:23,204 --> 00:17:27,079 What does that involve? Shots of the president kissing his ring? 319 00:17:27,299 --> 00:17:30,889 - Are you uncomfortable asking for this? - Well, is the pope Catholic? 320 00:17:31,060 --> 00:17:32,891 - Excuse us. - I'm afraid I don't... 321 00:17:33,066 --> 00:17:36,322 Would you excuse us for just a moment, please? 322 00:17:36,827 --> 00:17:39,869 He's gonna chastise the president on birth control in front of... 323 00:17:40,045 --> 00:17:42,885 Okay, you're not listening. You need to go in and apologize. 324 00:17:43,053 --> 00:17:46,393 If he doesn't want his audience with the pope to be public, it won't. 325 00:17:46,563 --> 00:17:50,402 If he does, that's a headache way over your pay grade. Okay? 326 00:17:50,575 --> 00:17:55,293 - Okay. - It's more than picking your battles... 327 00:17:55,464 --> 00:17:58,673 ...marshalling your energy. 328 00:17:58,849 --> 00:18:02,189 It's about grace under fire. 329 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,105 All war metaphors. 330 00:18:04,824 --> 00:18:08,877 I guess that's it. Being able to tell when it's a matter of life or death. 331 00:18:09,087 --> 00:18:11,463 - Where's your mother now? - She died. 332 00:18:11,636 --> 00:18:14,559 - Oh, I'm sorry. - That's okay. 333 00:18:14,728 --> 00:18:18,733 - How about your father? - He's in Dayton, Ohio. 334 00:18:18,906 --> 00:18:22,662 - And how's he? - He's... 335 00:18:22,834 --> 00:18:25,164 Actually, he's suffering from Alzheimer's and... 336 00:18:25,342 --> 00:18:29,727 I know that her dad is struggling, and I think that's a perfect example. 337 00:18:29,896 --> 00:18:33,272 I mean, in any other profession, she would have the time... 338 00:18:33,448 --> 00:18:38,285 She is knowingly not doing what she needs to do... 339 00:18:38,463 --> 00:18:43,894 ...to be with her father, who is elderly and struggling... 340 00:18:44,062 --> 00:18:47,734 ...because she has this particular opportunity and position. 341 00:18:47,907 --> 00:18:49,903 That's a very difficult choice to make. 342 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,835 I don't think she has... I think she understands the choice she's making. 343 00:18:54,008 --> 00:18:58,844 And I think it's also the choice that her father would want her to make. 344 00:18:59,022 --> 00:19:02,148 And I think she knows that. But it makes it very difficult. 345 00:19:02,365 --> 00:19:03,743 She has such great instincts. 346 00:19:06,209 --> 00:19:11,843 I think that she is so agile, and her wit and her charm... 347 00:19:12,018 --> 00:19:14,561 ...and I think the people... 348 00:19:14,776 --> 00:19:18,448 The press really respect her, and so that she can keep... 349 00:19:18,620 --> 00:19:21,960 ...a very strong but friendly relationship with the press. 350 00:19:22,130 --> 00:19:25,755 And I think that that's important. What do I know? But this is my opinion. 351 00:19:25,933 --> 00:19:28,095 You are interviewing me. 352 00:19:28,315 --> 00:19:29,646 - 3:00. - Nope. 353 00:19:29,819 --> 00:19:32,065 - 3: 15. 3:30. - No. No. 354 00:19:32,243 --> 00:19:34,037 - 3:45. - He has a conference call. 355 00:19:34,207 --> 00:19:36,999 - 4:00. - He has a NEC thing at 4:00 I can't push. 356 00:19:37,174 --> 00:19:40,631 If the Eagle troops make it back, we can move it to the Mural Room... 357 00:19:40,809 --> 00:19:42,889 ...and make it a spray. - What time? 358 00:19:43,066 --> 00:19:45,442 - 4:30. - No. 359 00:19:45,656 --> 00:19:49,828 You heard any buzz out of Seattle? The PI, The Times, anyone? 360 00:19:50,587 --> 00:19:54,343 Are you the sound guy? I'm supposed to make sure the levels aren't too high. 361 00:19:56,020 --> 00:20:01,190 Because last time there was feedback, and it's... Do you need help with that? 362 00:20:01,661 --> 00:20:04,620 You know why I'm asking? Because he's about to head out, and... 363 00:20:04,795 --> 00:20:07,291 Correction. He is heading out. 364 00:20:07,469 --> 00:20:09,632 I told them to wait until... 365 00:20:10,269 --> 00:20:13,775 Of course I'm nervous. I've got him in front of cameras, and you're not... 366 00:20:13,946 --> 00:20:16,026 What do you wanna hear? I'm panicked too? 367 00:20:16,203 --> 00:20:20,838 You know what? The director said this was gonna be settled an hour ago. 368 00:20:21,175 --> 00:20:25,228 - characterize USAID funds as a cash cow for Cuban dissidents. 369 00:20:25,438 --> 00:20:28,278 Are you watching? He's taking... The Ugandans aren't taking... 370 00:20:28,446 --> 00:20:31,619 - He's taking a question. - I'm watching. He's taking a question. 371 00:20:31,831 --> 00:20:35,587 Secretary Berryhill and myself are deeply troubled by the repeated jailings... 372 00:20:35,759 --> 00:20:38,136 ... of political dissidents in Cuba, especially... 373 00:20:38,350 --> 00:20:41,856 - Oh, boy. ...as 15,000 desperate Cuban citizens... 374 00:20:42,027 --> 00:20:45,652 ... continue to risk life and limb to reach our shores every year. 375 00:20:45,871 --> 00:20:49,663 America looks forward to the day when aid to Cuban citizens... 376 00:20:49,841 --> 00:20:51,422 ... will no longer be necessary. 377 00:20:51,638 --> 00:20:56,642 Yeah. Yeah. He never says it exactly the way I would... 378 00:20:56,820 --> 00:20:58,198 ...but that's the fun part. 379 00:20:58,408 --> 00:20:59,821 - C.J., they have it. - Hold on. 380 00:20:59,996 --> 00:21:02,408 Wait, I gotta go. Who has what? 381 00:21:02,586 --> 00:21:05,296 Someone called in to a radio drive-time from Shaw Island. 382 00:21:05,470 --> 00:21:08,429 Federal agents set up a perimeter on the property next to his. 383 00:21:08,604 --> 00:21:10,481 - Was gunfire mentioned? - Yeah. 384 00:21:10,651 --> 00:21:13,741 - Okay. - What do we do? 385 00:21:14,203 --> 00:21:16,746 She's a great teacher, is what she is... 386 00:21:16,919 --> 00:21:22,136 ...and I think my job really is to protect her, to help her protect the president. 387 00:21:22,352 --> 00:21:24,847 I pulled the records you asked for from Casey Creek. 388 00:21:25,026 --> 00:21:27,986 The investigation reports are on your desk. That blue binder. 389 00:21:28,202 --> 00:21:31,909 FBI predicts 45 minutes for cameras to be there. I bet aerial coverage in 20. 390 00:21:32,506 --> 00:21:34,003 Yeah. 391 00:21:34,219 --> 00:21:38,176 - Poker face. It breaks, look surprised. - Yeah. 392 00:21:38,398 --> 00:21:41,404 We're showing you live images from Shaw Island, Washington... 393 00:21:41,574 --> 00:21:44,069 Twenty-three minutes later, MSNBC carried... 394 00:21:44,248 --> 00:21:46,958 ... the first live helicopter coverage of Shaw Island. 395 00:21:47,131 --> 00:21:50,304 A suspected arms trafficker appears to have sequestered himself... 396 00:21:50,474 --> 00:21:53,731 ... in a small cabin in the northwest corner of the island. 397 00:21:53,901 --> 00:21:57,276 There has been no official comment on whether Mr. Othman is alone... 398 00:21:57,453 --> 00:21:59,080 ... or whether he has hostages. 399 00:21:59,250 --> 00:22:03,754 But you can see the cabin now where gunfire was exchanged two hours ago. 400 00:22:03,930 --> 00:22:06,092 Federal agents have cordoned off the area... 401 00:22:06,270 --> 00:22:09,562 There's a misconception that I'm here to stymie reporters... 402 00:22:09,738 --> 00:22:11,449 ...or to mislead the public... 403 00:22:11,618 --> 00:22:15,493 ...to spin or even hide the truth, when, in fact, any good press secretary... 404 00:22:15,672 --> 00:22:17,549 ...aims to do just the opposite. 405 00:22:17,761 --> 00:22:20,257 - So the FBI director...? - I still don't know, Greg. 406 00:22:20,477 --> 00:22:23,104 - C.J. - Mark, I don't have anything yet. 407 00:22:23,277 --> 00:22:25,404 No comment on the dog? 408 00:22:25,575 --> 00:22:28,617 My guy's got a vet on Shaw Island, says the Othman family dog... 409 00:22:28,793 --> 00:22:31,503 ...is in his office with an FBI agent's bullet in it. 410 00:22:31,676 --> 00:22:33,554 Is this gonna be another Casey Creek? 411 00:22:33,724 --> 00:22:37,895 - the initial outburst this morning. State and local authorities have recently... 412 00:22:38,070 --> 00:22:41,326 Off the record? I hope not. 413 00:22:41,538 --> 00:22:45,044 Five years earlier, the FBI's mishandling of a standoff in Casey Creek... 414 00:22:45,215 --> 00:22:48,257 ... which resulted in the shooting death of the suspect's wife... 415 00:22:48,433 --> 00:22:52,355 ... was a tragedy that haunted the new president's first term. 416 00:22:52,528 --> 00:22:54,988 But if the incident at Casey Creek was a tragedy... 417 00:22:55,202 --> 00:22:58,125 ... the investigation that followed was considered by many... 418 00:22:58,295 --> 00:22:59,626 ... to be an extended farce. 419 00:22:59,799 --> 00:23:03,139 Instead, the FBI will strictly adhere to the guidelines... 420 00:23:03,309 --> 00:23:06,066 The FBI director is still failing to cooperate. 421 00:23:06,234 --> 00:23:08,195 As you know, the attorney general... 422 00:23:08,407 --> 00:23:12,412 There were calls for the director to step down and the president to fire him. 423 00:23:12,586 --> 00:23:19,182 The FBI has confirmed the tragic loss of Brian Anuletti. 424 00:23:19,355 --> 00:23:23,277 Casey Creek also haunted President Bartlet's young press secretary. 425 00:23:23,450 --> 00:23:26,373 C.J. Cregg's naivet� about the power of her podium... 426 00:23:26,543 --> 00:23:31,297 ... led many to question her abilities to deliver the news of the nation. 427 00:23:31,474 --> 00:23:34,148 It would be months before she regained the confidence... 428 00:23:34,315 --> 00:23:38,023 ... of the White House press corps and the Bartlet administration. 429 00:23:38,201 --> 00:23:40,911 Did the agent mistake Pamela Charlton for her husband... 430 00:23:41,085 --> 00:23:43,545 ... when they shot her in the doorway of her home? 431 00:23:43,717 --> 00:23:46,677 I can 't speak to specifics. The director and the president... 432 00:23:46,851 --> 00:23:48,432 ... were in constant contact. 433 00:23:48,606 --> 00:23:50,603 When you say constant contact, is that...? 434 00:23:50,779 --> 00:23:53,322 The president was briefed daily several times a day... 435 00:23:53,495 --> 00:23:56,122 ... by the attorney general and the director of the FBI. 436 00:23:56,295 --> 00:23:58,969 The president knew snipers were given the green light... 437 00:23:59,137 --> 00:24:01,049 ...to use deadly force? - I have no idea. 438 00:24:01,226 --> 00:24:04,732 C.J., FBI rules of engagement specify that no action may be taken... 439 00:24:04,903 --> 00:24:06,900 ... unless innocents are in imminent danger. 440 00:24:07,076 --> 00:24:10,285 Did the director discuss suspending those rules with the president? 441 00:24:10,461 --> 00:24:13,753 No, though some of the agents thought the rules had been suspended. 442 00:24:13,929 --> 00:24:17,804 So, C.J., so there...? There was a breakdown in communication? 443 00:24:17,982 --> 00:24:19,360 No, I didn 't say that. 444 00:24:19,529 --> 00:24:21,656 The rules are predicated on the Constitution. 445 00:24:21,827 --> 00:24:24,204 Are you saying the FBI suspended the Constitution? 446 00:24:24,376 --> 00:24:25,707 I'm not saying that either. 447 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:30,016 My job is making sure the press and, through them, the public, is informed. 448 00:24:30,184 --> 00:24:31,979 I tell them the truth. 449 00:24:34,990 --> 00:24:36,617 That's my goal. 450 00:24:36,787 --> 00:24:39,282 When we return, will mistakes of the past... 451 00:24:39,503 --> 00:24:43,294 ... create a new crisis for the Bartlet administration? 452 00:24:45,311 --> 00:24:47,854 We are about 200 yards from the cabin. 453 00:24:48,027 --> 00:24:52,745 Now, we have no answer yet from the FBI about who fired the first shots. 454 00:24:52,958 --> 00:24:56,250 The FBI has cleared the airspace here above Shaw Island... 455 00:24:56,468 --> 00:24:59,225 ... and we are told that this is standard procedure. 456 00:24:59,435 --> 00:25:02,691 And with reports of a family dog allegedly shot by federal agents... 457 00:25:02,862 --> 00:25:05,322 ... the question on everyone's mind today is: 458 00:25:05,494 --> 00:25:07,538 Is this another Casey Creek? 459 00:25:07,751 --> 00:25:11,423 - Are you saying the FBI suspended the...? - Wow, look how young you look. 460 00:25:11,595 --> 00:25:14,174 I wonder how old I'm gonna look by this time tomorrow. 461 00:25:14,771 --> 00:25:16,601 Don't answer that. 462 00:25:18,072 --> 00:25:20,699 I'm sorry we didn't brief you about the dog... 463 00:25:20,872 --> 00:25:22,667 ...but it wasn't for comment, anyway. 464 00:25:22,836 --> 00:25:25,843 The director wanted you in the loop to extend a show of faith... 465 00:25:26,012 --> 00:25:28,852 It was a show of something, but if I'd been truly briefed... 466 00:25:29,020 --> 00:25:31,314 ...I could have told you this wasn't going away. 467 00:25:31,486 --> 00:25:34,492 Well, the director was confident that the situation would... 468 00:25:34,662 --> 00:25:36,289 His confidence is starting to... 469 00:25:36,459 --> 00:25:37,789 Okay. Did you need me? 470 00:25:37,963 --> 00:25:41,885 - Leo wanted me to remind you... - Oh, yeah. I know my line. 471 00:25:43,813 --> 00:25:46,190 - I think you look better now. - I do too. 472 00:25:46,362 --> 00:25:47,859 - You do. - Yeah. 473 00:25:48,034 --> 00:25:50,790 Even in the midst of brewing storms, the press briefing... 474 00:25:50,959 --> 00:25:52,871 ... is a constant centerpiece of the day. 475 00:25:53,048 --> 00:25:56,055 Normally, the press secretary's chance to combat speculation... 476 00:25:56,224 --> 00:25:57,721 ... and set the record straight. 477 00:25:57,895 --> 00:25:59,226 Up until WWll... 478 00:26:02,074 --> 00:26:05,865 ...even the general public could walk right up to the door of the White House. 479 00:26:06,044 --> 00:26:10,049 And the press office, that was born under Teddy Roosevelt. 480 00:26:10,264 --> 00:26:12,724 We knew our way around the West Wing. 481 00:26:12,939 --> 00:26:15,399 We knew the staff, the president. 482 00:26:15,571 --> 00:26:17,568 There was no press room. 483 00:26:17,744 --> 00:26:23,425 So we'd hang out in the lobby and just wait for the news of the day. 484 00:26:23,803 --> 00:26:28,224 If Jim had anything for us, we'd gather around with our notebooks. 485 00:26:28,818 --> 00:26:31,528 And sometimes he'd just come out and say: 486 00:26:31,743 --> 00:26:35,415 "Nothing more today, fellas. Go on home." 487 00:26:36,966 --> 00:26:38,927 That couldn't happen now. 488 00:26:39,139 --> 00:26:42,479 - C.J., did the FBI fire the first shot? - Just wait till the briefing. 489 00:26:42,649 --> 00:26:43,980 Is it Othman or Oathman? 490 00:26:44,154 --> 00:26:45,484 - Othman. - Oathman. 491 00:26:45,658 --> 00:26:47,738 - Which one is it? - Othman. I double-checked. 492 00:26:47,914 --> 00:26:51,754 You know, from time to time, I look in on the midday briefing... 493 00:26:52,344 --> 00:26:53,841 ...and it all comes back. 494 00:26:54,057 --> 00:26:55,804 My heart starts to race. 495 00:26:56,021 --> 00:26:57,934 My stomach churns. 496 00:26:58,152 --> 00:27:02,870 Then I mix myself a martini and I thank God it is not me anymore. 497 00:27:03,041 --> 00:27:04,538 - C.J. - Yeah, Steve. 498 00:27:04,713 --> 00:27:09,467 What would the president say to those who fear a repeat of Casey Creek? 499 00:27:09,644 --> 00:27:13,899 The president is aware of the situation and hopeful for a peaceful resolution. 500 00:27:14,073 --> 00:27:17,781 Has he asked for an explanation of why a dog was shot by agents at the scene? 501 00:27:17,959 --> 00:27:20,455 We're tracking the situation but do not interfere... 502 00:27:20,634 --> 00:27:23,212 ...with ongoing law-enforcement efforts. Katie. 503 00:27:23,433 --> 00:27:27,569 I'm following up. There are reports agents fired the first shots. Is this true? 504 00:27:27,737 --> 00:27:29,068 I won't speculate. 505 00:27:29,242 --> 00:27:31,785 Can't we safely say Othman didn't shoot his own dog? 506 00:27:31,958 --> 00:27:34,965 Again, the White House doesn't comment on an ongoing operation. 507 00:27:35,134 --> 00:27:38,093 Was the director called to the White House by the president... 508 00:27:38,268 --> 00:27:41,274 ...or did he come on his own? - They meet twice a week... 509 00:27:41,444 --> 00:27:44,153 So you don't know if they discussed the standoff? 510 00:27:44,327 --> 00:27:49,212 - We're getting word the FBI is issuing... - Yeah, I'm just getting that now. 511 00:27:51,264 --> 00:27:53,094 I have a statement to read. 512 00:27:53,269 --> 00:27:56,276 Our negotiator established telephone contact with Mr. Othman... 513 00:27:56,445 --> 00:27:58,442 ... inside the residence and has learned... 514 00:27:58,618 --> 00:28:00,698 ... one of the Othman children was injured... 515 00:28:00,916 --> 00:28:02,960 ... in the initial exchange of gunfire. 516 00:28:03,131 --> 00:28:05,674 I have no particulars about the extent of the injury. 517 00:28:05,847 --> 00:28:09,020 Othman has agreed to allow an ambulance to approach the cabin... 518 00:28:09,232 --> 00:28:11,394 ... and let at least one other family member... 519 00:28:11,572 --> 00:28:14,614 ... help evacuate the injured child to receive medical treatment. 520 00:28:14,790 --> 00:28:17,119 I have nothing further at this time. 521 00:28:17,297 --> 00:28:21,552 - C.J. - Excuse me. Excuse me. 522 00:28:22,938 --> 00:28:26,230 The FBI has cleared the airspace here above Shaw Island... 523 00:28:26,406 --> 00:28:29,829 ... and we are told that this is standard procedure. 524 00:28:31,630 --> 00:28:33,175 He's in with Leo. 525 00:28:33,343 --> 00:28:38,311 - moments ago, and as you can see, has stopped at the turnoff to the lane. 526 00:28:38,483 --> 00:28:40,111 - approaching the cabin. 527 00:28:40,322 --> 00:28:41,652 They're in the Oval. 528 00:28:41,826 --> 00:28:45,284 The breakneck pace we live at, the 24-hour news cycle. 529 00:28:45,503 --> 00:28:48,759 Is this good for the country? Is it inescapable? 530 00:28:48,971 --> 00:28:51,514 How do we reflect, get perspective? 531 00:28:51,688 --> 00:28:53,565 - They're on a call. - With the director? 532 00:28:53,735 --> 00:28:55,113 I can't interrupt. 533 00:29:07,817 --> 00:29:09,814 - Okay. - Armed agents around the cabin... 534 00:29:09,990 --> 00:29:14,827 Well, there are times when it's what's called a closed hold... 535 00:29:15,005 --> 00:29:17,881 ...when certain members of the staff... 536 00:29:18,055 --> 00:29:22,976 ...until, again, all the information is ready to go out... 537 00:29:23,195 --> 00:29:25,738 ...some people aren't included. That's happened to me. 538 00:29:25,911 --> 00:29:29,583 It's happened to everybody on the staff at one point or another. 539 00:29:31,176 --> 00:29:32,804 What do you mean? 540 00:29:35,898 --> 00:29:38,441 It's Claudia Jean. It's... 541 00:29:40,913 --> 00:29:44,834 I'm at work. I'm at the White House, Daddy. 542 00:29:47,264 --> 00:29:49,677 Is there a nurse there? 543 00:29:51,485 --> 00:29:54,527 I'm sorry you don't like it, but I can't come back right now. 544 00:29:54,744 --> 00:29:56,491 I can't be there right now. 545 00:29:56,666 --> 00:30:00,422 I'm very, very sorry, and I love you so much, but I can't be there. 546 00:30:00,594 --> 00:30:03,517 And I will be there as soon as I can. 547 00:30:03,687 --> 00:30:06,896 Hopefully next weekend, like we talked about. 548 00:30:07,071 --> 00:30:09,746 All right, Daddy. 549 00:30:24,246 --> 00:30:26,242 The injured child is the primary concern. 550 00:30:26,419 --> 00:30:28,831 President Bartlet can 't or he won 't ride herd. 551 00:30:29,010 --> 00:30:31,767 They were a nice family. The FBI hounded them. 552 00:30:31,977 --> 00:30:34,983 - from authorities since this standoff began five hours ago. 553 00:30:35,152 --> 00:30:36,815 Their phone was being tapped... 554 00:30:37,033 --> 00:30:40,242 Cowboy Arnold's there, shooting up dogs and children. 555 00:30:40,417 --> 00:30:42,544 Nobody respects the job our federal agents... 556 00:30:42,716 --> 00:30:45,556 ... do every day more than me, but where is the leadership? 557 00:30:45,724 --> 00:30:47,768 Oh, sure, it's racial profiling. 558 00:30:47,981 --> 00:30:49,811 As tensions mounted in the West Wing... 559 00:30:49,987 --> 00:30:53,327 ... the press secretary was kept at arm 's length about negotiations... 560 00:30:53,497 --> 00:30:56,040 ... and the condition of the child on Shaw Island. 561 00:30:56,213 --> 00:31:00,218 And, of course, we've got that tradition of the flak jacket. You heard about that. 562 00:31:00,392 --> 00:31:02,685 - No, tell me. - Well, we've got this flak jacket. 563 00:31:02,857 --> 00:31:04,984 It goes from one press secretary to the next. 564 00:31:05,155 --> 00:31:09,113 We all put little notes in the pockets, you know, words of wisdom... 565 00:31:09,292 --> 00:31:11,039 ...to the next guy on the job. 566 00:31:11,256 --> 00:31:13,835 - Like what? - I couldn't tell you that. 567 00:31:14,014 --> 00:31:16,141 Part of the tradition is it remains private. 568 00:31:16,354 --> 00:31:18,981 The Roadless Rules Conservation Area announcement... 569 00:31:19,154 --> 00:31:22,280 ...originally scheduled for 12 p.m. has been moved to 3 p.m. 570 00:31:22,497 --> 00:31:24,874 C.J.? Agent Casper's here. 571 00:31:27,595 --> 00:31:29,176 - Agent...? - Hi. 572 00:31:29,350 --> 00:31:32,892 What...? I'm sorry. I'm not sure this is a really good idea. 573 00:31:33,069 --> 00:31:35,113 The entire fourth estate is camped outside. 574 00:31:35,284 --> 00:31:37,280 Seriously, I'm gonna have to kick you out. 575 00:31:37,457 --> 00:31:41,046 The president, the attorney general and the director asked me to stop by... 576 00:31:41,218 --> 00:31:43,214 ...so I wouldn't say that's a good idea. 577 00:31:43,391 --> 00:31:44,852 You were in the Oval. 578 00:31:45,020 --> 00:31:46,851 Just left. It's okay. 579 00:31:47,026 --> 00:31:49,153 And first off, I wanted to... 580 00:31:49,324 --> 00:31:52,200 On behalf of the director, I want to apologize. 581 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,252 The media rep on Shaw screwed up. 582 00:31:56,470 --> 00:31:59,180 Never should have issued a statement without telling you. 583 00:31:59,353 --> 00:32:01,683 Appreciate him not doing it while I'm on the air. 584 00:32:01,902 --> 00:32:03,982 Agreed. Bad move. Won't happen again. 585 00:32:04,159 --> 00:32:06,120 What makes you say that? 586 00:32:06,290 --> 00:32:09,463 That I'm not gonna answer until you close that. 587 00:32:09,633 --> 00:32:11,546 - Want the cameras off? - Yes, please. 588 00:32:11,722 --> 00:32:13,053 Okay. 589 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,356 When we return, an explosion on Shaw Island... 590 00:32:17,531 --> 00:32:20,205 ... threatens the worst for the Bartlet administration. 591 00:32:20,372 --> 00:32:22,202 - No comment. - No comment. 592 00:32:23,464 --> 00:32:25,342 - Want the cameras off? - Yes, please. 593 00:32:25,512 --> 00:32:27,223 Okay. 594 00:32:28,813 --> 00:32:32,319 C.J. Cregg's closed door was a vivid reminder to the press corps... 595 00:32:32,490 --> 00:32:35,616 ... that the press secretary was in control of their feeding time. 596 00:32:36,168 --> 00:32:39,091 Their hunger for updated information was only intensified... 597 00:32:39,260 --> 00:32:41,672 ... by the continued lull in action on Shaw Island. 598 00:32:41,892 --> 00:32:43,473 It's a clear breach of policy... 599 00:32:43,647 --> 00:32:47,189 He doesn't have the bullet, or that the FBI confiscated the bullet? 600 00:32:47,367 --> 00:32:50,742 Carol. We know Agent Casper's in there. Is she being briefed? 601 00:32:50,918 --> 00:32:54,009 It's like a debate team. You don't argue for the other side. 602 00:32:54,220 --> 00:32:57,476 There's an inherent aspect of spin that's just human nature. 603 00:32:57,646 --> 00:33:00,356 You try to strengthen and clarify your point of view. 604 00:33:01,031 --> 00:33:04,906 If you choose not to advertise your vulnerabilities, is that a cover-up? 605 00:33:05,084 --> 00:33:08,590 You know what? Could you make sure people don't walk in and out of here? 606 00:33:08,761 --> 00:33:10,924 I'm sorry about that. I just spoke with Eric. 607 00:33:11,102 --> 00:33:13,858 And don't ever let the press have free rein back here. 608 00:33:14,027 --> 00:33:16,356 This answer is too long-winded for you to use... 609 00:33:16,576 --> 00:33:22,090 ...but I think my job is public, and yet for all its visibility, it's not. 610 00:33:22,300 --> 00:33:27,435 There's a misconception that I'm here to stymie reporters or to mislead the public. 611 00:33:27,607 --> 00:33:30,448 To spin or even hide the truth. 612 00:33:30,658 --> 00:33:34,033 Better way to put it: I'm here to articulate the president's message... 613 00:33:34,252 --> 00:33:37,508 ...and to honestly inform the press, and through them, the public... 614 00:33:37,678 --> 00:33:41,350 ...about what is happening on any given day. 615 00:33:41,523 --> 00:33:45,148 - surrounded a cabin located deep in the woods on Shaw Island... 616 00:33:45,325 --> 00:33:48,082 ... a remote location off the Washington state coast. 617 00:33:48,250 --> 00:33:51,340 What we know is that there was an initial exchange of gunfire... 618 00:33:51,510 --> 00:33:53,387 You waiting for something? 619 00:33:53,557 --> 00:33:56,017 - whose last name we only have as Othman. 620 00:33:56,190 --> 00:33:59,030 You wanted to see my day, this is my day. 621 00:34:00,536 --> 00:34:03,078 The extent of those injuries is yet to be determined. 622 00:34:03,252 --> 00:34:05,628 I just got a call from Jill at the Times... 623 00:34:05,801 --> 00:34:08,973 ...and she told me that you went on the record with her. 624 00:34:09,144 --> 00:34:11,722 I didn't go on the record with her about anything. 625 00:34:11,902 --> 00:34:14,064 I was rescheduling an appointment for C. J... 626 00:34:14,242 --> 00:34:17,664 That is not your job. Your job is "no comment." 627 00:34:17,877 --> 00:34:19,255 - I have to talk to you. - Okay? 628 00:34:19,423 --> 00:34:22,264 - Understood, I'll take care of it. - All right. What's up? 629 00:34:23,769 --> 00:34:27,477 Research has it that Mrs. Othman isn't Yemeni-American. 630 00:34:27,655 --> 00:34:31,363 She's the daughter of a schoolteacher and an auto worker. 631 00:34:31,542 --> 00:34:33,169 Born in Detroit. 632 00:34:33,338 --> 00:34:35,668 - Has it gotten out yet? - No. Not yet. 633 00:34:35,846 --> 00:34:37,889 I want you to stay on it. And be discreet. 634 00:34:38,060 --> 00:34:41,436 - Hey, hey, they're moving! - an emergency vehicle on the scene. 635 00:34:41,612 --> 00:34:44,738 Yes, okay, now it appears we have the ambulance doors opening. 636 00:34:44,913 --> 00:34:46,791 - Carol! - And they are... 637 00:34:46,961 --> 00:34:49,291 We have a stretcher rolling out of the ambulance. 638 00:34:49,468 --> 00:34:51,679 I see two EMTs. They've removed a stretcher... 639 00:34:51,892 --> 00:34:54,435 ... and they are heading in the direction of the cabin. 640 00:34:54,608 --> 00:34:58,994 As a reminder, the new SOP does specify that snipers are not to fire... 641 00:34:59,205 --> 00:35:02,746 ...when children are in harm 's way. - Yes, I can see the EMTs approaching. 642 00:35:02,924 --> 00:35:06,215 They don 't appear to be going all the way... Oh, the door's opening. 643 00:35:06,392 --> 00:35:08,519 The door of the cabin is? 644 00:35:09,025 --> 00:35:12,816 Okay, we have an explosion, or a flash of some kind near the cabin. 645 00:35:12,994 --> 00:35:15,751 We do have gunfire coming from the direction of the cabin. 646 00:35:15,919 --> 00:35:17,297 What are you seeing now? 647 00:35:17,507 --> 00:35:20,430 Get me 10 minutes in the Oval Office. Call over there now. 648 00:35:20,641 --> 00:35:23,137 I can no longer see the EMTs or the children. 649 00:35:23,316 --> 00:35:26,358 - There's... Someone may be down. - Gunshots are continuing. 650 00:35:26,533 --> 00:35:28,114 We see agents now on the move. 651 00:35:28,288 --> 00:35:31,960 I see five, six members of SWA T storming towards the cabin. 652 00:35:32,175 --> 00:35:33,969 Andrew! Andrew! 653 00:35:35,309 --> 00:35:39,183 - lost sight of the children as they came out of the cabin. They may be down. 654 00:35:41,242 --> 00:35:44,582 We do have more gunfire coming from the direction of the cabin... 655 00:35:44,752 --> 00:35:46,416 ... and from the surrounding woods. 656 00:35:46,591 --> 00:35:47,922 Come with me. 657 00:35:51,815 --> 00:35:53,276 - C.J. - No comment. 658 00:36:06,816 --> 00:36:08,479 This is Charlie. 659 00:36:08,655 --> 00:36:10,235 Okay. Thanks. 660 00:36:11,454 --> 00:36:14,794 Reschedule the announcement for tomorrow. You've got the NEC waiting. 661 00:36:14,965 --> 00:36:16,426 No, I'll stick my head in. 662 00:36:16,594 --> 00:36:20,052 I'll get on your schedule in the morning for a final prep for questions. 663 00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:22,476 I think we can guess what those questions are. 664 00:36:22,653 --> 00:36:23,984 Yes, sir. 665 00:36:24,158 --> 00:36:25,869 - In the Mural Room. - Here they are. 666 00:36:26,038 --> 00:36:28,034 Are these our young, wayward adventurers? 667 00:36:28,211 --> 00:36:30,921 - The Eagle Rangers. - Welcome to the White House, fellas. 668 00:36:31,094 --> 00:36:32,425 Hi. Come on in. 669 00:36:32,599 --> 00:36:34,226 How you doing? 670 00:36:34,395 --> 00:36:36,308 It's good to see you. Good. Good. 671 00:36:36,485 --> 00:36:38,232 I'll have a word with you later. 672 00:36:38,407 --> 00:36:41,117 - So who among you... - We're in here. 673 00:36:41,290 --> 00:36:43,869 ...objects to staying another night at the Marriott? 674 00:36:44,048 --> 00:36:46,591 While airwaves were filled with conflicting reports... 675 00:36:46,764 --> 00:36:48,642 ... of what happened on Shaw Island... 676 00:36:48,854 --> 00:36:52,110 ... the Bartlet administration dropped away from the breaking news... 677 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,786 ... and resumed its day. Was there contention within the administration? 678 00:36:55,958 --> 00:36:58,881 Would further departures from standard procedure be revealed? 679 00:36:59,050 --> 00:37:01,628 From inside the West Wing, we could only speculate... 680 00:37:01,808 --> 00:37:03,435 ... with the rest of the country. 681 00:37:03,605 --> 00:37:05,066 - Really? - That's right, sir. 682 00:37:05,276 --> 00:37:08,236 - Thank you, fellas. - See you at 10 a.m. in the Rose Garden. 683 00:37:08,410 --> 00:37:10,157 Have a good night. Yes, sir. 684 00:37:11,335 --> 00:37:14,342 - You holding up? - Oh, yes, sir. 685 00:37:14,511 --> 00:37:18,433 Yes. I guess there's an inherent tension there, I won't deny it. 686 00:37:18,606 --> 00:37:21,696 Conventional wisdom says you can't serve two masters. I do. 687 00:37:21,866 --> 00:37:23,993 - But your first is...? - Or, I tell myself I do. 688 00:37:24,206 --> 00:37:27,165 Some of you are up against evening-news deadlines... 689 00:37:27,381 --> 00:37:30,091 ...so we'd like to bring Agent Mike Casper to the podium. 690 00:37:31,769 --> 00:37:34,645 He'll have a statement and then take your questions. Mike. 691 00:37:37,536 --> 00:37:40,495 Approximately one hour ago, agents apprehended Jamal Othman... 692 00:37:40,670 --> 00:37:43,926 ...who had been holed up with his family in a seven-hour standoff... 693 00:37:44,096 --> 00:37:45,927 ...on Shaw Island in Washington state. 694 00:37:46,102 --> 00:37:48,479 ATF officials recovered two cases of explosives... 695 00:37:48,651 --> 00:37:50,647 ...which had been wired through the cabin. 696 00:37:50,824 --> 00:37:52,820 Othman was in control of their detonation. 697 00:37:52,997 --> 00:37:56,954 Mr. Othman received a gunshot wound to the left shoulder, condition is stable. 698 00:37:57,134 --> 00:38:00,343 The standoff was initiated when Othman opened fire this morning... 699 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,139 ...and released an attack dog on federal agents... 700 00:38:03,318 --> 00:38:05,695 ...attempting to serve him with an arrest warrant. 701 00:38:06,118 --> 00:38:08,959 One agent sustained severe bites to the face and throat. 702 00:38:09,127 --> 00:38:11,088 His condition is critical at this time. 703 00:38:11,300 --> 00:38:14,425 His name is being withheld until his family can be notified. 704 00:38:14,601 --> 00:38:17,097 The youngest Othman child also sustained injuries... 705 00:38:17,275 --> 00:38:19,105 ...in the initial exchange of gunfire. 706 00:38:19,281 --> 00:38:24,796 Hoda Othman, age 6, was struck by flying glass and went into shock. 707 00:38:24,964 --> 00:38:27,756 She and the other five children, as well as Mrs. Othman... 708 00:38:27,931 --> 00:38:29,594 ...have been safely evacuated. 709 00:38:29,770 --> 00:38:32,979 The daughter is in stable condition. I'll take your questions now. 710 00:38:33,154 --> 00:38:35,911 Agent Casper, what are the charges against Mr. Othman? 711 00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:39,336 On the evening news on that March day three years ago... 712 00:38:39,506 --> 00:38:43,047 ... speculations of impropriety were initially overtaken by relief... 713 00:38:43,225 --> 00:38:44,888 ... at the positive outcome. 714 00:38:45,064 --> 00:38:46,441 In a stunning conclusion... 715 00:38:46,610 --> 00:38:51,530 ... the FBI Hostage Rescue and SWA T, using a flash-bang as a distraction... 716 00:38:51,708 --> 00:38:54,880 ... stormed the cabin moments after an injured child was safely... 717 00:38:55,051 --> 00:38:58,223 - Okay, what do you got for me? - Call from the first lady's office. 718 00:38:58,394 --> 00:39:01,020 The Richard Tyler burgundy gown she wore was donated... 719 00:39:01,193 --> 00:39:04,783 ...to the Costume Institute at the Metropolitan Museum of Art in January. 720 00:39:04,954 --> 00:39:07,581 - Did you...? - I faxed Chris a copy of the receipt. 721 00:39:07,754 --> 00:39:09,750 - Thank you. - The Vatican team was sorry... 722 00:39:09,927 --> 00:39:12,803 ...they didn't say goodbye and look forward to seeing you. 723 00:39:12,977 --> 00:39:15,104 - They didn't seem put off? - I don't think so. 724 00:39:15,276 --> 00:39:17,736 That Renato guy asked me out to dinner. 725 00:39:17,908 --> 00:39:20,035 - You gotta go. - Oh, I don't know. He seemed... 726 00:39:20,206 --> 00:39:22,785 "A guy I dated from the Vatican"? Can't pass that up. 727 00:39:22,964 --> 00:39:26,422 Within a few hours, the action in the West Wing's corridors... 728 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,311 ... slowed to a steady hum. 729 00:39:29,483 --> 00:39:31,527 - Good night. - Good night, Jack. 730 00:39:31,698 --> 00:39:33,409 Thank you for everything today. 731 00:39:33,620 --> 00:39:38,291 I'll be working, so if you need anything, I'll be here. 732 00:39:38,467 --> 00:39:39,798 - Okay. - Working. 733 00:39:39,972 --> 00:39:42,812 - Thanks, Andrew. I appreciate it. - Bye, Andrew. 734 00:39:42,980 --> 00:39:45,024 Is she a good boss? 735 00:39:45,195 --> 00:39:48,451 She's the best boss, and I couldn't have a better job. 736 00:39:50,293 --> 00:39:52,337 I really look at C.J. as my mentor. 737 00:39:52,550 --> 00:39:55,675 They say that a mentor's a wise and trusted guide or friend. 738 00:39:55,851 --> 00:39:58,941 I would say that C.J. is all of those things. 739 00:39:59,152 --> 00:40:02,159 It would be weeks before the charges against Mr. Othman... 740 00:40:02,328 --> 00:40:06,083 ... would become public knowledge, but at the end of our day with C.J. Cregg... 741 00:40:06,256 --> 00:40:09,548 ...Access got a preview of what America would later learn. 742 00:40:09,766 --> 00:40:11,846 - Good day. - Not bad. 743 00:40:12,022 --> 00:40:15,528 I counted six rounds you went with the rope-a-dope in that briefing. 744 00:40:15,700 --> 00:40:17,993 I'm starting to take pride in it. 745 00:40:18,165 --> 00:40:20,958 That sounds sick. 746 00:40:21,132 --> 00:40:23,294 Is there anything I should know for tomorrow? 747 00:40:23,472 --> 00:40:26,514 The director wants to wait until he's sure it's a clean sweep... 748 00:40:26,690 --> 00:40:29,482 ...before announcing all the charges. - That makes sense. 749 00:40:29,657 --> 00:40:32,996 The confiscated blueprints are the most damning evidence, of course... 750 00:40:33,167 --> 00:40:37,006 ...but Othman's contacts with the Bahji network already netted a dozen arrests. 751 00:40:37,178 --> 00:40:40,518 Wow, this is... This was big for the FBI. 752 00:40:40,688 --> 00:40:42,185 It was big for all of us. 753 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,579 Big enough to put Casey Creek in the past? 754 00:40:47,583 --> 00:40:49,330 We'll see. 755 00:40:51,845 --> 00:40:53,842 The next day, most of the media coverage... 756 00:40:54,018 --> 00:40:57,810 ... mentioned the administration 's previous debacle at Casey Creek. 757 00:40:58,030 --> 00:41:00,787 Over the next nine months, 100 charges were handed down... 758 00:41:00,955 --> 00:41:04,081 ... in dozens of arrests connected to the Othman conspiracy. 759 00:41:04,256 --> 00:41:07,132 In the end, 11 domestic terrorists were sentenced... 760 00:41:07,307 --> 00:41:09,184 ... and convicted in federal courts. 761 00:41:09,354 --> 00:41:12,896 Last July, Jamal Othman died of complications from kidney failure... 762 00:41:13,073 --> 00:41:15,996 ... in federal prison, where he was serving a life sentence... 763 00:41:16,166 --> 00:41:19,541 ... for conspiracy to commit terrorism. 764 00:41:20,428 --> 00:41:21,925 Stop. 765 00:41:22,141 --> 00:41:25,314 Sometimes you have to just let yourself get beaten up. 766 00:41:25,484 --> 00:41:28,610 But sometimes it's better to be beaten up for 24 hours... 767 00:41:28,785 --> 00:41:30,448 ...than beaten up for the long run. 768 00:41:30,624 --> 00:41:33,120 Although the long run's something I have no sense of. 769 00:41:33,298 --> 00:41:36,674 When I go home at night, I'm thinking about the next day's schedule. 770 00:41:39,859 --> 00:41:42,782 Rain? That's what they said for today. 771 00:41:42,951 --> 00:41:45,162 Keep it in the Rose Garden for now. 772 00:41:45,333 --> 00:41:49,504 Director Arnold continues to elicit controversy as head of the FBI... 773 00:41:49,679 --> 00:41:53,351 ... and C.J. Cregg, who allowed us to share a day with her in the West Wing... 774 00:41:53,523 --> 00:41:56,101 ... remains the only woman to have served two terms... 775 00:41:56,281 --> 00:41:59,371 ... as the White House press secretary.72282