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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,499 --> 00:00:05,460 www.addic7ed.com 2 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,661 They said you were under the bridge at 125th and the FDR, 3 00:00:13,696 --> 00:00:16,962 - a bunch of people doing heroin. - They ain't get me with nothin'. 4 00:00:16,997 --> 00:00:19,111 Looks like they got some other people with drugs on them. 5 00:00:19,146 --> 00:00:20,146 Not me. 6 00:00:20,652 --> 00:00:22,089 I ain't new. 7 00:00:26,511 --> 00:00:30,180 They charged you with appearing in a public place under the influence of narcotics. 8 00:00:30,215 --> 00:00:32,478 - It's just a violation. - They arrested me and my friends, 9 00:00:32,513 --> 00:00:35,348 keep us sitting in here two days before we even see a judge on that? 10 00:00:35,383 --> 00:00:37,915 Citywide crackdown on drugs. They're putting everyone through the system 11 00:00:37,950 --> 00:00:41,890 - It backs things up. - Yeah, but they gonna just let us all go anyway, right? 12 00:00:41,925 --> 00:00:43,863 Even with your record, they won't hold you. 13 00:00:43,898 --> 00:00:47,176 Should be time served. Maybe a couple afternoons of substance-abuse... 14 00:00:47,211 --> 00:00:48,483 blah blah blah. 15 00:00:49,465 --> 00:00:51,415 In, out. In, out. 16 00:00:52,303 --> 00:00:54,953 Whole thing's just a waste of my time. 17 00:00:58,249 --> 00:01:00,820 So, we see that judge, get out today? 18 00:01:00,855 --> 00:01:01,855 Yeah. 19 00:01:02,378 --> 00:01:03,378 Good. 20 00:01:05,556 --> 00:01:09,318 "Beating a Dead Horse" 21 00:01:11,265 --> 00:01:15,665 They're really gonna take me to trial? I was trying to save my horse. 22 00:01:15,709 --> 00:01:19,025 You struck a policeman with your whip. He had to have seven stitches 23 00:01:19,060 --> 00:01:21,647 - They don't drop those charges. - Now, that cop, 24 00:01:21,682 --> 00:01:23,512 he was trying to pull me off Ophelia. 25 00:01:23,547 --> 00:01:25,826 Ophelia. Right, the horse you were beating, 26 00:01:25,861 --> 00:01:28,625 hence the animal-cruelty and resisting-arrest charges. 27 00:01:28,660 --> 00:01:30,084 Ophelia had colic. 28 00:01:30,119 --> 00:01:32,962 You got to get a horse with colic back on its feet, or it could die. 29 00:01:32,997 --> 00:01:34,895 That cop wouldn't listen. 30 00:01:34,930 --> 00:01:38,922 Conviction of assaulting a police officer can mean up to seven years in prison. 31 00:01:38,957 --> 00:01:42,301 He goes in front of a jury. He shows his scars... 32 00:01:42,336 --> 00:01:43,679 I did hit him. 33 00:01:45,244 --> 00:01:46,464 I did do that. 34 00:01:49,184 --> 00:01:51,484 Look, all I care about 35 00:01:51,692 --> 00:01:53,640 is my hack license. 36 00:01:54,103 --> 00:01:56,209 I'll plead to hitting the cop, 37 00:01:56,244 --> 00:01:58,344 to resisting. 38 00:01:58,379 --> 00:02:02,787 I'll even do some time. But my life is horses. 39 00:02:02,973 --> 00:02:06,373 I'm a cabbie. That's what we do in my family. 40 00:02:06,573 --> 00:02:10,463 Help me get a plea that'll let me get a new horse for my carriage. 41 00:02:10,498 --> 00:02:12,798 Please. That's all I need. 42 00:02:13,487 --> 00:02:15,887 Did you tell anyone about the colic? 43 00:02:16,106 --> 00:02:18,409 That night, I tried to tell everyone, but nobody would listen. 44 00:02:18,444 --> 00:02:20,584 No, I know. After your arrest. 45 00:02:21,082 --> 00:02:24,236 Only you. You said don't tell anyone, so I didn't. 46 00:02:24,271 --> 00:02:25,808 Good. Good. 47 00:02:26,773 --> 00:02:28,784 Let's see what we can do. 48 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,663 He'll take misdemeanor assault? That's supposed to stop a trial? 49 00:02:33,698 --> 00:02:36,728 The guy horsewhipped a police officer in front of a street full of witnesses. 50 00:02:36,763 --> 00:02:39,420 - The "d" felony's a lock. - Hey, I'm trying to be creative. 51 00:02:39,455 --> 00:02:41,943 He'll even do a little time. Just keep the number reasonable. 52 00:02:41,978 --> 00:02:43,471 Did I mention the street full of witnesses? 53 00:02:43,506 --> 00:02:47,761 He is not gonna look like the bad guy in a trial. 54 00:02:47,796 --> 00:02:50,300 Trust me. Come on. The felony will cost him his hack license. 55 00:02:50,349 --> 00:02:52,792 Just make it the misdemeanor. You get your conviction. 56 00:02:52,827 --> 00:02:56,462 You get a sentence. He gets to keep his license, which is what really matters to him. 57 00:02:56,497 --> 00:02:58,490 Wait, wait, wait, wait. Let me get this straight. 58 00:02:58,525 --> 00:03:01,205 You want me to knock down felony assault on a police officer, 59 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,926 resisting arrest, animal-cruelty charges 60 00:03:03,961 --> 00:03:07,558 so that a guy who beat his horse to death in the middle of Manhattan 61 00:03:07,593 --> 00:03:10,084 can get his hack license back and get a new horse? 62 00:03:10,119 --> 00:03:12,992 Well, when you put it that way, it doesn't sound like you're gonna say yes. 63 00:03:13,035 --> 00:03:14,457 I don't think so. 64 00:03:14,500 --> 00:03:16,150 Okay. See you in court. 65 00:03:20,559 --> 00:03:22,527 Time served. Surcharges waived. Next case. 66 00:03:22,570 --> 00:03:26,938 Docket ending 672. People of the state of New York vs. Cynthia Lazarre. 67 00:03:27,046 --> 00:03:30,913 Charged with 240.40 appearance in public under the influence of narcotics. 68 00:03:30,948 --> 00:03:32,551 Waive the reading, not the rights. 69 00:03:32,586 --> 00:03:36,222 Same raid, judge. Same charge. Same offer as the last five defendants... time served. 70 00:03:36,257 --> 00:03:38,130 - Defendant pleads guilty? - Yes, judge. 71 00:03:38,165 --> 00:03:40,600 Time served. Surcharges waived. Next case. 72 00:03:40,635 --> 00:03:44,889 Docket ending 674. People of the state of New York vs. Eden R'mante. 73 00:03:44,959 --> 00:03:48,854 Charged with 240.40 appearance in public under the influence of narcotics. 74 00:03:48,889 --> 00:03:50,638 Roberta Gilardi. Waive the reading, not the rights. 75 00:03:50,673 --> 00:03:53,202 Same raid, judge. Same charge. 76 00:03:58,024 --> 00:04:00,222 Same offer as the other defendants? 77 00:04:00,257 --> 00:04:03,146 Actually, your honor. We're not prepared to make an offer at this time. 78 00:04:03,181 --> 00:04:05,705 We need to investigate this case further. 79 00:04:05,824 --> 00:04:09,478 Investigate what? The facts are the same as all the other cases. 80 00:04:10,321 --> 00:04:14,371 Your honor, there are additional circumstances we need to look into here. 81 00:04:14,413 --> 00:04:17,400 Judge, this is a violation. Will the court offer time served? 82 00:04:17,435 --> 00:04:21,297 If the people say there are additional circumstances 83 00:04:21,332 --> 00:04:22,470 to investigate, let them do so. 84 00:04:22,505 --> 00:04:25,773 Then ROR her so she'll be out pending this investigation. 85 00:04:25,808 --> 00:04:28,188 Your Honor, Miss R'mante has 9 prior arrests 86 00:04:28,223 --> 00:04:30,859 and 3 drug convictions in the last 18 months. 87 00:04:30,894 --> 00:04:34,059 We ask for bail to ensure she doesn't take off while we're looking into things. 88 00:04:34,094 --> 00:04:36,945 - Your Honor... - Bail is set at $1,000 cash. 89 00:04:37,324 --> 00:04:40,097 What does that mean? They're keeping me in? I ain't got no $1,000! 90 00:04:40,132 --> 00:04:42,584 They let everybody go but me. They can't do that. 91 00:04:42,619 --> 00:04:44,662 - Eden... - I need you! 92 00:04:44,878 --> 00:04:46,460 Get your hands off me! 93 00:04:46,495 --> 00:04:48,913 - Officer, take charge. - Don't touch me! 94 00:04:48,948 --> 00:04:51,025 Mark her card for medical attention. 95 00:04:51,060 --> 00:04:54,138 Your Honor, I am begging you! Please! Get off me! 96 00:04:58,019 --> 00:04:59,692 Waive the reading, not the rights. 97 00:04:59,727 --> 00:05:02,606 You can't treat a defendant differently just because she happens to be pregnant. 98 00:05:02,641 --> 00:05:04,790 I'm not treating her differently because she's pregnant. 99 00:05:04,825 --> 00:05:07,768 I'm simply choosing to investigate a case prior to disposition. 100 00:05:07,803 --> 00:05:09,559 Oh, bullshit. Come on. 101 00:05:10,289 --> 00:05:13,644 No, you come on. Look, just say hypothetically we have a drug addict 102 00:05:13,679 --> 00:05:16,454 with a long list of priors and no indication she can clean up, 103 00:05:16,489 --> 00:05:19,190 and she's exposing her unborn child to heroin. 104 00:05:19,225 --> 00:05:22,119 I mean, if she winds up behind bars off drugs for the rest of her pregnancy, 105 00:05:22,154 --> 00:05:23,563 is that really such a bad thing? 106 00:05:23,630 --> 00:05:25,981 You can't lock someone away because of what she might do 107 00:05:26,016 --> 00:05:27,379 to an unborn child. 108 00:05:27,414 --> 00:05:29,876 She was under a bridge shooting up with a dozen other junkies. 109 00:05:29,911 --> 00:05:34,281 She is doing it. She can get medical treatment in jail for her and her baby. 110 00:05:34,316 --> 00:05:35,852 Look, just... 111 00:05:36,414 --> 00:05:40,146 Take off your PD hat for one second and think. As a human being 112 00:05:40,181 --> 00:05:41,968 what's the best thing for everyone here? 113 00:05:42,003 --> 00:05:45,319 The best thing is probably a good treatment program outside. 114 00:05:45,354 --> 00:05:47,903 Yeah, well, I'm sure that worked great for her in the past. 115 00:05:47,938 --> 00:05:49,752 She'll get a program inside. 116 00:05:49,787 --> 00:05:52,784 You have no right to hold her, okay? You can investigate all you want, 117 00:05:52,819 --> 00:05:56,492 but we'll be back with the judge in a day or two, and the law is the law. 118 00:05:56,527 --> 00:05:58,885 She's not walking. 119 00:06:04,987 --> 00:06:08,073 That what you sayin'? 120 00:06:08,127 --> 00:06:12,126 Yeah, look, have some candy. It helps. 121 00:06:13,300 --> 00:06:16,446 But that almost never happens. 122 00:06:16,500 --> 00:06:19,135 It could get sorted tomorrow. It could take longer. 123 00:06:19,170 --> 00:06:20,703 I got to get out now! 124 00:06:20,738 --> 00:06:23,049 You got anyone that can raise $1,000 cash for bail? 125 00:06:23,084 --> 00:06:24,692 Called my cousin. 126 00:06:24,727 --> 00:06:28,817 She trying to get family to pitch in, but $1,000? That's a lot of cash. 127 00:06:28,852 --> 00:06:31,725 She's saying maybe a week, but I can't wait. 128 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,679 - I know. I know it's hard. - You don't know! 129 00:06:36,294 --> 00:06:37,727 You don't. 130 00:06:39,089 --> 00:06:40,570 I'm getting sick. 131 00:06:41,079 --> 00:06:44,487 I got to get out. I can't be dope sick in here. 132 00:06:44,522 --> 00:06:46,868 Please. You got to get me out. 133 00:06:55,196 --> 00:06:59,336 Transcripted by chamallow35 and honeybunny 134 00:07:01,443 --> 00:07:05,582 www.Addic7ed.com 135 00:07:09,603 --> 00:07:11,711 We still on for dinner? 136 00:07:12,073 --> 00:07:13,852 Oh, what time is it? 137 00:07:15,408 --> 00:07:20,022 Uh... almost 11:00. Come on. Edward's is open till midnight. 138 00:07:21,515 --> 00:07:23,707 - Can I ask a favor? - Always. 139 00:07:23,742 --> 00:07:27,569 I got Merton and Boyd both going to trial. Roz says I'm too overloaded. 140 00:07:27,617 --> 00:07:29,291 - We're all too overloaded. - I know, right? 141 00:07:29,326 --> 00:07:33,372 But, apparently, there's some rule you can't have more than 115 cases pending at a time. 142 00:07:33,407 --> 00:07:35,709 Ohh. Right. That rule. 143 00:07:35,763 --> 00:07:39,213 I have to off-load a bunch of cases before the trials kick in. 144 00:07:39,331 --> 00:07:41,285 Can I give you the important ones? 145 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,644 - What do you got? - Yes. Okay. 146 00:07:45,039 --> 00:07:47,510 - Easy pleas. Tough clients. - Check. 147 00:07:47,601 --> 00:07:51,728 This is a trial, but there's about six months worth of motions before it pops. 148 00:07:51,763 --> 00:07:53,947 The only front burner is this. 149 00:07:56,834 --> 00:07:58,149 Eden R'mante? 150 00:07:58,716 --> 00:08:00,189 Wait, wait. You're dumping a violation? 151 00:08:00,224 --> 00:08:03,476 Should have been out at arraignment, but Ernhardt saw that she was pregnant 152 00:08:03,511 --> 00:08:04,847 and decided to keep her in. 153 00:08:04,882 --> 00:08:07,501 - She said that? - She's too smart to say it, but... 154 00:08:07,536 --> 00:08:09,772 There's no reason to hold her. 155 00:08:09,807 --> 00:08:12,474 And she's hitting major withdrawal. She needs to get out now. 156 00:08:12,509 --> 00:08:15,112 She's got a cousin trying to make the bail, but it's iffy. 157 00:08:15,147 --> 00:08:17,620 And it's in front of Kessler, so she's not exactly reasonable. 158 00:08:17,655 --> 00:08:20,498 But Charlie is, and he's got her ear. 159 00:08:20,585 --> 00:08:22,545 All right, so we need a great program, 160 00:08:22,580 --> 00:08:26,680 something that Kessler can't turn down without really embarrassing herself, 161 00:08:26,763 --> 00:08:28,563 something bulletproof. 162 00:08:35,605 --> 00:08:37,392 It's 11:00 at night. 163 00:08:40,994 --> 00:08:44,094 Right. First thing tomorrow, I'm on it. 164 00:08:44,913 --> 00:08:46,545 - Dinner? - Thanks. 165 00:08:49,302 --> 00:08:50,826 Dessert? 166 00:08:51,183 --> 00:08:52,815 Absolutely. 167 00:09:15,111 --> 00:09:16,420 Ernhardt. 168 00:09:16,463 --> 00:09:19,457 - You spend the night here? - Actually, yes. 169 00:09:19,674 --> 00:09:22,082 I thought I recognized that outfit. 170 00:09:22,117 --> 00:09:23,879 Hey, McGrath, check it out. 171 00:09:24,009 --> 00:09:27,963 Ernhardt pulled an all-nighter. Someone actually cares about the work. 172 00:09:27,998 --> 00:09:31,466 Yeah, boss. The rest of us are phoning it in at 8:00 a.m. 173 00:09:31,501 --> 00:09:34,193 I'm just saying. All-nighter. 174 00:09:34,798 --> 00:09:37,998 - Hey. What's the case? - In public under influence of narcotics. 175 00:09:38,041 --> 00:09:40,871 - You stayed up all night on a violation? - Dedication, see? 176 00:09:40,906 --> 00:09:42,979 She's 7 months pregnant and 9 priors. 177 00:09:43,014 --> 00:09:45,487 Arrested shooting heroin with a baby in her belly. 178 00:09:45,522 --> 00:09:47,120 And you want to keep her in to protect the baby. 179 00:09:47,155 --> 00:09:50,460 Yes. But I cannot find one case to support it. 180 00:09:50,495 --> 00:09:53,930 - Can you charge her for the drugs? - They're all tagged to other people. 181 00:09:53,965 --> 00:09:56,990 I was thinking of charging assault or attempted assault on the fetus, 182 00:09:57,025 --> 00:09:59,476 - but the laws aren't there. - What about endangerment? 183 00:09:59,511 --> 00:10:01,422 There are no laws against endangering a fetus. 184 00:10:01,457 --> 00:10:04,398 - Well, there you go. - It gets worse. 185 00:10:04,468 --> 00:10:06,968 There's actually case law that says detaing a pregnant woman 186 00:10:07,003 --> 00:10:10,149 solely because of her drug use is unconstitutional. 187 00:10:10,184 --> 00:10:13,211 What would you do, McGrath, if you cared to say up all night? 188 00:10:13,246 --> 00:10:14,817 Well, the law's clear. 189 00:10:14,852 --> 00:10:18,171 It isn't pretty, but it's clear. Got to cut her loose. 190 00:10:18,463 --> 00:10:21,460 Which basically means letting this mother destroy her unborn baby. 191 00:10:21,495 --> 00:10:24,801 I'm not saying it feels good, but we don't make the law. We just enforce it. 192 00:10:24,836 --> 00:10:27,536 Well, we're not allowed to keep her inside 'cause she pregnant and using drugs, 193 00:10:27,571 --> 00:10:29,157 so we can't do that. 194 00:10:29,192 --> 00:10:31,136 But there are plenty of other enforcement options. 195 00:10:31,171 --> 00:10:33,921 No, the law is a tool, McGrath, not a ruler. 196 00:10:34,728 --> 00:10:36,198 Forget all this. 197 00:10:36,257 --> 00:10:39,883 Let me show you a totally different idea. I think you're gonna like it. 198 00:10:48,976 --> 00:10:51,538 Me and my girlfriend, we come around the corner. 199 00:10:51,646 --> 00:10:55,024 And I see this cabbie jumping off his carriage. 200 00:10:55,586 --> 00:10:58,722 The horse is laying on the ground, collapsed. 201 00:10:58,851 --> 00:11:01,727 And the guy's shouting at her. He's screaming at the top of his lungs. 202 00:11:01,770 --> 00:11:04,814 - What was he screaming? - You know, "get up! Get on your feet!" 203 00:11:04,868 --> 00:11:06,441 That sort of thing. 204 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:10,451 And he starts whipping it right there on the ground, 205 00:11:10,581 --> 00:11:11,973 over and over, cursing, calling it names. 206 00:11:12,008 --> 00:11:14,514 Do you rember what names he was calling the horse as he whipped her? 207 00:11:14,549 --> 00:11:19,328 - Yeah. "Old mare. Lazy belgian." - He called a belgian "lazy"? 208 00:11:19,928 --> 00:11:21,719 Yeah, he used "lazy" a lot. 209 00:11:22,965 --> 00:11:25,365 - While he was whipping her? - Yes, sir. 210 00:11:25,500 --> 00:11:30,176 - How long did this go on? - I don't know. It wasn't like one hit. 211 00:11:30,219 --> 00:11:32,779 It was a lot. I mean, he went on and on. 212 00:11:32,808 --> 00:11:36,466 You said you heard the defendant screaming at the horse while he was beating her. 213 00:11:36,501 --> 00:11:39,411 - Yeah. - Was the horse making any noises? 214 00:11:40,016 --> 00:11:41,435 Oh, yeah. 215 00:11:42,468 --> 00:11:45,768 I mean, you could hear that whip hitting. 216 00:11:46,278 --> 00:11:51,278 And horse was making the most awful sounds when that whip came down, 217 00:11:51,414 --> 00:11:55,046 like a horse sound. Like "whinny" you call it. You know? But 218 00:11:55,549 --> 00:11:57,170 it was worse. 219 00:11:58,921 --> 00:12:00,504 It was like screaming. 220 00:12:02,332 --> 00:12:03,529 Yeah, it, uh... 221 00:12:06,051 --> 00:12:07,434 It was horrible. 222 00:12:08,841 --> 00:12:09,980 Thank you. 223 00:12:10,532 --> 00:12:13,173 I arrived on the scene, and people were screaming for the police. 224 00:12:13,208 --> 00:12:15,479 So I pushed through the crowd, and I saw this guy 225 00:12:15,514 --> 00:12:17,487 whipping his horse on the ground. 226 00:12:17,522 --> 00:12:20,470 And he was really whaling on her. He wouldn't stop. 227 00:12:20,505 --> 00:12:22,462 It was brutal. I'd never seen anything like it. 228 00:12:22,527 --> 00:12:23,814 What did you do? 229 00:12:23,943 --> 00:12:28,073 I was in uniform, but I identified myself as a police officer in a clear, 230 00:12:28,116 --> 00:12:31,041 loud voice, and I ordered him to stop. 231 00:12:31,111 --> 00:12:34,414 No. He continued, at which point I approached him. 232 00:12:34,592 --> 00:12:35,983 What did you do next? 233 00:12:36,251 --> 00:12:38,414 I, once again, ordered him to stop. 234 00:12:38,484 --> 00:12:42,884 And I placed an arm on his shoulder, and with my right hand, 235 00:12:43,089 --> 00:12:45,608 I reached out for his wrist to stop the whip. 236 00:12:45,673 --> 00:12:46,895 What did he do? 237 00:12:46,930 --> 00:12:49,238 Well, he whirled around, and he tried to whip me. 238 00:12:49,273 --> 00:12:51,523 He's going for my face, too. 239 00:12:51,614 --> 00:12:54,216 - I'm lucky I got my arm up in time. - What happened? 240 00:12:54,251 --> 00:12:56,638 Well, his whip hit my arm full force 241 00:12:56,673 --> 00:12:58,924 and knocked my arm right into my face. 242 00:12:58,959 --> 00:13:02,981 And at that time, the other officers arrived, tackled, and subdued the suspect. 243 00:13:03,035 --> 00:13:05,687 What happened to your arm where he hit you with his whip? 244 00:13:05,722 --> 00:13:09,690 It was bleeding, and I got seven stitches. I still have a scar. 245 00:13:09,836 --> 00:13:11,702 What happened to the horse? 246 00:13:11,848 --> 00:13:14,295 Well, we called animal control 247 00:13:14,330 --> 00:13:17,439 and NYPD horse patrol unit, 248 00:13:17,474 --> 00:13:22,087 but the poor animal died before they got there. It just died right in the street. 249 00:13:24,898 --> 00:13:26,001 Thank you. 250 00:13:28,525 --> 00:13:32,687 When you identified yourself as a police officer, did Mr. Capulet say anything to you? 251 00:13:32,741 --> 00:13:34,655 Oh, he was screaming a lot of things. 252 00:13:34,757 --> 00:13:37,709 Among those things, do you recall him telling you that the horse had colic 253 00:13:37,774 --> 00:13:39,438 and he had to get her on her feet? 254 00:13:39,496 --> 00:13:43,215 He wasn't telling me anything. He was yelling like a madman. 255 00:13:43,345 --> 00:13:45,266 So he didn't say, 256 00:13:45,496 --> 00:13:48,726 "this horse has colic. We need to get it on its feet"? 257 00:13:48,761 --> 00:13:51,972 I told him to stop beating the horse, and he was screaming like a crazy man. 258 00:13:52,026 --> 00:13:53,921 I don't recall what he was screaming. 259 00:13:53,956 --> 00:13:56,961 You don't recall him saying, "she could die. 260 00:13:57,448 --> 00:13:59,288 We need to get her up"? 261 00:13:59,777 --> 00:14:01,188 No, I do not. 262 00:14:02,718 --> 00:14:06,772 Are you a mounted officer, or do you have traing in the field of horses? 263 00:14:07,421 --> 00:14:08,545 - No. - No. 264 00:14:08,599 --> 00:14:11,934 So you wouldn't know the proper steps to take to save a horse with colic. 265 00:14:11,978 --> 00:14:15,345 And you wouldn't even know what a horse looks like in that specific distress? 266 00:14:15,421 --> 00:14:18,318 Well, I know what a horse looks like when it's on the ground, getting whipped. 267 00:14:18,361 --> 00:14:20,459 But you don't know horses. 268 00:14:20,502 --> 00:14:24,588 And you didn't listen to this horse's owner when he told you 269 00:14:24,675 --> 00:14:27,648 what he need to do to save his animal's life. 270 00:14:27,713 --> 00:14:30,634 If anyone was an animal here, it was the perpetrator, all right. 271 00:14:30,669 --> 00:14:35,264 He was out of control and would not respond to a direct request from a police officer. 272 00:14:35,426 --> 00:14:38,810 He beat the horse. He attacked me. That's that. 273 00:14:42,383 --> 00:14:43,575 Michelle. 274 00:14:43,756 --> 00:14:45,088 Eden R'mante? 275 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,834 - Isn't that Bobbi's case? - Yeah, she's got two trials coming at her. 276 00:14:47,869 --> 00:14:49,283 Punted to me. 277 00:14:49,318 --> 00:14:51,053 - Oh, joy. - All right, check this out. 278 00:14:51,107 --> 00:14:54,361 I spoke to a friend at the sandler center, pulled strings. 279 00:14:54,426 --> 00:14:57,778 They agreed to put her in their outpatient recovery program. 280 00:14:58,246 --> 00:15:00,594 - Uh, I don't think so. - You don't think so? 281 00:15:00,659 --> 00:15:03,634 This is as good a program as you could get. 282 00:15:03,669 --> 00:15:04,869 I'm not convinced. 283 00:15:04,923 --> 00:15:08,032 Look, Michelle, from a legal standpoint, I didn't have to do any of this. 284 00:15:08,086 --> 00:15:09,726 - She should have been out yesterday. - You really think 285 00:15:09,761 --> 00:15:13,383 a voluntary outpatient program in the bronx and a halfway house in queens 286 00:15:13,426 --> 00:15:16,086 mean anything to someone with her history of drug addiction? 287 00:15:16,121 --> 00:15:18,783 Look, Michelle, I'm trying to make this easy. But I've got a great package here. 288 00:15:18,837 --> 00:15:22,194 Kessler will have to go for it. I don't need you to sign off. 289 00:15:22,237 --> 00:15:24,156 - We'll see, won't we? - Yes, we will. 290 00:15:26,635 --> 00:15:29,042 With due respect, treatment is also available at rikers. 291 00:15:29,096 --> 00:15:30,891 This is a great program. 292 00:15:30,945 --> 00:15:33,805 She's never stuck with a program before. And while we investigate the case, 293 00:15:33,869 --> 00:15:36,932 - we fear she's a flight risk. - What is it exactly that you're investigating? 294 00:15:36,967 --> 00:15:39,100 It's ongoing. We'll inform the court when we've completed... 295 00:15:39,135 --> 00:15:41,764 oh, come on! Your honor, we all know what's going on here. 296 00:15:41,799 --> 00:15:44,591 All I know, counselor, is the people feel she's a flight concern. 297 00:15:44,626 --> 00:15:48,722 And I'm disinclined to reduce bail while there's an ongoing investigation. 298 00:15:51,053 --> 00:15:55,061 All right, if you won't reduce bail, your honor, my client will plead to the docket. 299 00:15:55,096 --> 00:15:57,066 Release her to the treatment program. 300 00:15:57,104 --> 00:16:00,312 Verify with them that she's complying with every term and condition. 301 00:16:00,331 --> 00:16:03,222 And if she's not, you can put her back in jail. 302 00:16:03,620 --> 00:16:06,435 Well, your client is entitled to plead guilty. 303 00:16:06,669 --> 00:16:09,858 Your honor, the people at this time will be serving a 170-20 notice 304 00:16:09,859 --> 00:16:11,955 that we will be pursuing this case as a felony. 305 00:16:11,956 --> 00:16:13,820 What?! What felony? 306 00:16:13,890 --> 00:16:16,387 Details will be in the indictment when we hand it down. 307 00:16:16,388 --> 00:16:17,934 Well, that certainly changes things. 308 00:16:17,982 --> 00:16:21,559 And because this case is now a felony, your honor, the people ask that you increase bail. 309 00:16:21,672 --> 00:16:24,404 Oh, come on. She can't make the $1,000 bail as it is. 310 00:16:24,453 --> 00:16:27,155 Then it won't matter that in light of more serious charges, 311 00:16:27,209 --> 00:16:29,923 the court's increasing bail to $2,500 cash. 312 00:16:29,977 --> 00:16:32,846 We'll hear more after the people file. Next case. 313 00:16:36,138 --> 00:16:39,096 - You got to get me out of here. - I'll be back there in a second. 314 00:17:00,688 --> 00:17:01,855 A 170-20? 315 00:17:02,289 --> 00:17:03,527 Are you out of your mind? 316 00:17:04,256 --> 00:17:06,153 I don't feel out of my mind. Do I seem like I'm out of my mind? 317 00:17:06,154 --> 00:17:08,807 You're manipulating the system to keep a woman behind bars 318 00:17:08,861 --> 00:17:10,859 because you don't like that she's pregnant and using. 319 00:17:10,860 --> 00:17:14,131 Oh, my God. I sound horrible. How will I live with myself? 320 00:17:14,191 --> 00:17:17,072 Look, I'm not trying to destroy this woman's life. I'll deal this out at three months. 321 00:17:17,126 --> 00:17:20,638 Deal what out at three months?! What is the supposed felony charge here? 322 00:17:20,639 --> 00:17:23,016 Not that we're obligated to say until we file, 323 00:17:23,017 --> 00:17:25,113 but it'll probably be conspiracy. 324 00:17:25,683 --> 00:17:27,888 Oh. All right, yeah. Conspiracy? 325 00:17:27,996 --> 00:17:31,261 We'll charge her along with the other dealers who were selling under the bridge. 326 00:17:31,369 --> 00:17:34,299 All right, Michelle, you have any evidence at all for this? 327 00:17:34,364 --> 00:17:35,998 We're investigating, aren't we? 328 00:17:36,060 --> 00:17:37,634 Okay. Come on. 329 00:17:37,764 --> 00:17:40,585 You know you have no case here. You'll never get a conviction. 330 00:17:40,683 --> 00:17:44,974 Maybe so. But your client will sit in jail for 12 to 18 months waiting for trial, 331 00:17:45,115 --> 00:17:47,396 or she can plead to 3 months and be out in 2. 332 00:17:47,450 --> 00:17:48,857 Until she has the baby. 333 00:17:49,231 --> 00:17:50,905 I didn't say that, did i? 334 00:17:51,369 --> 00:17:53,364 Come on, Jerry. Don't make me take the hard line here. 335 00:17:53,365 --> 00:17:57,547 Michelle, come on. If she has the baby in jail, they'll take it away from her. 336 00:18:00,464 --> 00:18:02,949 You know. You know that the conspiracy charge is bogus. 337 00:18:02,954 --> 00:18:05,210 If your client doesn't want to take the deal, 338 00:18:05,253 --> 00:18:08,367 we can settle the matter at trial in 12 to 16 months. 339 00:18:08,615 --> 00:18:11,306 Or I can take it to the grand jury and have them kick it for the obvious crap that it is. 340 00:18:11,307 --> 00:18:15,356 You want to take your pregnant, drug-addicted client to the grand jury, be my guest. 341 00:18:15,399 --> 00:18:17,502 Say Wednesday, 10:30? 342 00:18:18,696 --> 00:18:20,210 Just talk to her. 343 00:18:20,318 --> 00:18:22,172 Let her get methadone inside, 344 00:18:22,245 --> 00:18:24,143 medical supervision till she has the baby. 345 00:18:24,144 --> 00:18:28,578 I know she won't like it, but this is the best path open to her right now. 346 00:18:31,599 --> 00:18:32,827 Thanks to you. 347 00:18:33,455 --> 00:18:34,702 Thanks to her! 348 00:18:39,187 --> 00:18:41,253 My 21st birthday, 349 00:18:41,404 --> 00:18:44,345 papi said it was time to get my own horse. 350 00:18:45,193 --> 00:18:47,384 The whole family saved up. 351 00:18:47,777 --> 00:18:51,509 We went to the stables, and there was plenty of horses. But Ophelia... 352 00:18:54,031 --> 00:18:57,211 ...we just looked at each other, and it was like we could communicate, 353 00:18:57,349 --> 00:18:58,572 you know? 354 00:18:59,253 --> 00:19:00,680 I said, "she's the one." 355 00:19:02,258 --> 00:19:04,561 We worked together from that moment on. 356 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,918 Most cabbies have gimmicks. They sing or they have patter for their tourists. 357 00:19:09,042 --> 00:19:10,739 For me, it was always Ophelia. 358 00:19:11,539 --> 00:19:12,829 She would just 359 00:19:13,583 --> 00:19:16,077 look at a couple or a child, 360 00:19:16,848 --> 00:19:18,674 and they would want to ride with her. 361 00:19:18,869 --> 00:19:22,058 And how was her health leading up to the incident? 362 00:19:22,231 --> 00:19:24,941 She'd been a bit sick the week before, 363 00:19:25,047 --> 00:19:26,562 nipping at her hindquarters, 364 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:28,180 eating a bit less. 365 00:19:28,258 --> 00:19:29,891 Did you check her feed? 366 00:19:31,091 --> 00:19:32,854 That was the first thing I did. 367 00:19:33,491 --> 00:19:36,202 It was her usual, but I threw it out, just to be safe. 368 00:19:36,350 --> 00:19:37,790 Got her a new bag. 369 00:19:37,966 --> 00:19:40,798 I kept her in the stable, didn't let her work. 370 00:19:41,772 --> 00:19:44,837 And then a few days later, she seemed better, so I took her back out. 371 00:19:44,902 --> 00:19:46,245 And she was better? 372 00:19:46,307 --> 00:19:48,810 We worked three nights, and she was fine. 373 00:19:50,777 --> 00:19:53,512 - And then that night... - The night of the incident. 374 00:19:53,631 --> 00:19:56,470 That night, she started breathing real heavy, 375 00:19:56,639 --> 00:19:58,435 nipping at her backside again. 376 00:19:59,072 --> 00:20:01,900 I pulled over to the side of the street. She... 377 00:20:04,372 --> 00:20:05,607 She just collapsed. 378 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,604 And with those symptoms, what did you think was going on with Ophelia? 379 00:20:09,810 --> 00:20:11,276 Well, that's colic. 380 00:20:11,853 --> 00:20:14,051 There's only one thing you can do for that. 381 00:20:14,121 --> 00:20:16,389 You got to get the horse back on its feet. 382 00:20:17,064 --> 00:20:19,090 So you hit her with your whip? 383 00:20:20,053 --> 00:20:24,734 A horse's hide is thick. And if they're sick, they're not gonna want to get up. 384 00:20:25,545 --> 00:20:27,296 You can't reason with them. 385 00:20:27,615 --> 00:20:29,188 You got to get them up, 386 00:20:29,674 --> 00:20:32,152 clear the blockage. That was the only way to save her life. 387 00:20:32,307 --> 00:20:35,613 So you were trying to save Ophelia's life. 388 00:20:35,885 --> 00:20:36,839 Yes. 389 00:20:37,377 --> 00:20:40,426 - And what happened next? - A crowd starts to form. 390 00:20:40,671 --> 00:20:43,231 I'm trying to save Ophelia, and then, suddenly, 391 00:20:43,572 --> 00:20:46,388 all these people are yelling, "stop beating that horse. You're gonna kill it!" 392 00:20:46,518 --> 00:20:48,377 One guy threatens to punch me. 393 00:20:48,464 --> 00:20:50,669 And what happened when the police officer arrived? 394 00:20:50,723 --> 00:20:52,738 By then, I'm pretty frantic. 395 00:20:53,013 --> 00:20:54,909 All these people are screaming. 396 00:20:55,410 --> 00:20:57,898 The cop gets there, and I'm like, "thank God. 397 00:20:58,101 --> 00:21:00,318 Keep this crowd back. We got to get my horse up." 398 00:21:00,361 --> 00:21:02,858 And did the officer help you keep the crowd back? 399 00:21:02,934 --> 00:21:04,567 No. He says, 400 00:21:05,069 --> 00:21:08,053 "put the whip down and step away from the animal." 401 00:21:09,572 --> 00:21:10,718 "Animal." 402 00:21:11,950 --> 00:21:14,014 I'm trying to save her life, 403 00:21:15,485 --> 00:21:18,750 and he just says, "step away from the animal." 404 00:21:20,750 --> 00:21:23,377 - Did you step away? - I told him. 405 00:21:24,042 --> 00:21:26,334 I said, "my horse has colic. 406 00:21:27,528 --> 00:21:29,788 We got to get her to her feet, or she'll die." 407 00:21:29,955 --> 00:21:33,193 - Did he help you get Ophelia to her feet? - No. 408 00:21:33,750 --> 00:21:35,210 He grabbed me, 409 00:21:36,215 --> 00:21:39,215 tries to pull the whip out of my hand. 410 00:21:39,934 --> 00:21:43,684 This is the only thing that I have to save my horse's life. 411 00:21:44,496 --> 00:21:46,193 I push back. 412 00:21:48,107 --> 00:21:50,557 I didn't mean to hurt him. I just... 413 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,343 I didn't want to let her die! 414 00:22:06,058 --> 00:22:08,315 - You didn't mean to hurt Officer Gafferty. - No. 415 00:22:08,350 --> 00:22:11,604 - But you did hit him. - I guess so. 416 00:22:12,442 --> 00:22:13,792 You guess so? 417 00:22:13,869 --> 00:22:17,325 Well, you heard his testimony. You saw his scar. You were there. 418 00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:20,993 - I was focused on saving my horse. - With your whip. 419 00:22:21,014 --> 00:22:22,014 Yes. 420 00:22:22,042 --> 00:22:24,996 Could you please tell the court, what is this whip made of? 421 00:22:25,031 --> 00:22:27,517 - Leather. - It's actually steel and leather, 422 00:22:27,787 --> 00:22:29,539 isn't that right? 423 00:22:29,658 --> 00:22:33,536 The handle and the top of the crop have steel under the leather, yes. 424 00:22:33,571 --> 00:22:37,182 And how long is this steel-and-leather whip? 425 00:22:37,863 --> 00:22:39,213 5 feet. 426 00:22:39,896 --> 00:22:43,363 So, when Officer Gafferty told you to stop beating your horse and step away, 427 00:22:43,398 --> 00:22:47,104 you responded by hitting him with a 5-foot, steel-and-leather whip. 428 00:22:47,139 --> 00:22:51,639 I didn't mean to. I just wanted them all to let me get my horse up. 429 00:22:51,852 --> 00:22:52,879 Thank you. 430 00:22:55,793 --> 00:22:57,823 Do you have a particular specialty in your practice? 431 00:22:57,858 --> 00:23:00,866 I specialize in large animals, specifically horses. 432 00:23:00,901 --> 00:23:04,133 And as a specialist, if you saw a horse nipping at her hindquarters, 433 00:23:04,166 --> 00:23:06,014 breathing heavily, and then collapsing, 434 00:23:06,058 --> 00:23:08,996 would there be a particular diagnosis that might jump out? 435 00:23:09,031 --> 00:23:12,785 Anyone experienced with horses would suspect colic right away. 436 00:23:12,820 --> 00:23:14,939 And as a veterinary doctor, 437 00:23:14,976 --> 00:23:19,098 could you tell us what one would do to help a horse in that circumstance? 438 00:23:19,133 --> 00:23:23,190 If a horse is collapsed, the immediate danger is a blockage that can't clear. 439 00:23:23,225 --> 00:23:25,920 - You have to get the horse on its feet. - How would one do that? 440 00:23:25,955 --> 00:23:30,855 isn't gonna want to get up, so you use your whip. 441 00:23:31,209 --> 00:23:33,401 But doesn't whipping hurt the horse? 442 00:23:33,436 --> 00:23:36,796 So does slicing open a person's throat, but that doesn't stop a doctor 443 00:23:36,831 --> 00:23:39,785 from performing an emergency tracheotomy. 444 00:23:39,820 --> 00:23:44,587 Medicine can be invasive and painful, but we do what we have to do to save lives. 445 00:23:44,667 --> 00:23:46,741 So, in your medical opinion, 446 00:23:46,776 --> 00:23:49,952 Mr. Capulet was doing everything he could to save Ophelia. 447 00:23:49,987 --> 00:23:51,328 Absolutely. 448 00:23:51,603 --> 00:23:55,160 And the crowd and police officer who tried to stop him? 449 00:23:55,231 --> 00:23:57,190 I'm sure that they thought they were doing good. 450 00:23:57,225 --> 00:24:01,763 But when they stopped an experienced horseman from treating his animal, well, 451 00:24:01,798 --> 00:24:06,198 those do-gooders are probably the reason that horse died. 452 00:24:18,551 --> 00:24:20,800 Isn't it right to protect an unborn child? 453 00:24:20,835 --> 00:24:24,470 Yeah, but how far do we go with that? Do we put women in jail if they drink wine? 454 00:24:24,505 --> 00:24:26,794 - What if they smoke? - Or don't take prenatal vitamins? 455 00:24:26,829 --> 00:24:29,973 I'm okay with drawing the line at shooting heroin. 456 00:24:30,008 --> 00:24:33,751 What about constitutional rights, subverting the system to keep someone in jail? 457 00:24:33,786 --> 00:24:36,821 We all know that if the baby's born in custody, it's gonna get taken away from her. 458 00:24:36,851 --> 00:24:39,902 Oh, have you seen this woman's sheet? I mean, it's not just drugs. 459 00:24:39,937 --> 00:24:43,432 It's prostitution, assault. I mean, what will this kid's life be like 460 00:24:43,467 --> 00:24:47,667 - being born to a drug addict prostitute? - That's social engineering! 461 00:24:47,878 --> 00:24:49,575 We're not supposed to do that. 462 00:24:49,802 --> 00:24:52,283 The system takes kids out of bad situations all the time. 463 00:24:52,305 --> 00:24:54,305 Yeah, Charlie, when there are legitimate charges. 464 00:24:54,370 --> 00:24:56,184 If family services takes the baby away, 465 00:24:56,219 --> 00:24:58,035 it's because they determined she isn't a fit parent. 466 00:24:58,110 --> 00:25:01,097 And if she ever cleans herself up, she can petion for custody. 467 00:25:01,132 --> 00:25:03,681 It's not some grand civil-liberties case, Jerry. 468 00:25:03,716 --> 00:25:07,766 It's a woman being put on bail set legally by a judge. 469 00:25:08,083 --> 00:25:10,032 You're right. It is just a bail case. 470 00:25:10,067 --> 00:25:13,167 - Thank you. - So I'll be appealing her bail. 471 00:25:14,143 --> 00:25:17,046 - What?! - See you in the appellate division. 472 00:25:33,885 --> 00:25:37,423 You could have jumped in back at the bar. I wouldn't have minded the support. 473 00:25:37,458 --> 00:25:39,008 I jumped in. 474 00:25:39,399 --> 00:25:40,642 Not really. 475 00:25:40,728 --> 00:25:42,480 I'm tired, Jerry. 476 00:25:42,609 --> 00:25:45,207 I have two cases going to trial. 477 00:25:46,274 --> 00:25:49,212 I mean, are you not with me on this? 478 00:25:49,247 --> 00:25:51,850 If I were representing her, I'd be right in there fighting. 479 00:25:51,885 --> 00:25:54,885 But since I'm not and it's just us, 480 00:25:55,145 --> 00:25:58,120 - I can't say it's an easy call. - Not easy, 481 00:25:58,155 --> 00:26:01,039 but her fundamental rights are being violated. 482 00:26:01,074 --> 00:26:05,615 Honestly, for me, it's not as black and white. There's another life involved. 483 00:26:06,118 --> 00:26:11,063 So you think that the child is better off in the system than it is with its mother? 484 00:26:11,707 --> 00:26:14,407 We're not having this conversation. 485 00:26:15,220 --> 00:26:17,910 You dumped this case because you don't believe in it. 486 00:26:17,945 --> 00:26:19,360 I off-loaded a bunch of cases 487 00:26:19,395 --> 00:26:21,764 because Roz said I needed to clear my plate before trial. 488 00:26:21,799 --> 00:26:24,547 No, no, no. You dumped this case. You chose to dump this case 489 00:26:24,582 --> 00:26:26,628 because you feel more for the unborn child than for the... 490 00:26:26,663 --> 00:26:29,674 I have defended pedophiles, murders, and rapists. 491 00:26:29,728 --> 00:26:33,364 I fight my heart out for every client. You do not question my integrity. 492 00:26:33,399 --> 00:26:37,799 Bobbi, Bobbi, I'm sorry. I... I didn't mean that. 493 00:26:38,653 --> 00:26:40,942 - Bobbi, you can't believe... - No "buts," Jerry. 494 00:26:40,977 --> 00:26:43,758 We may not agree on this case. Can you live with that? 495 00:26:43,793 --> 00:26:46,620 - I don't know. - Well, figure it out. 496 00:26:46,853 --> 00:26:49,250 Because if there is no room for disagreement between us... 497 00:26:49,285 --> 00:26:51,726 this... this is a defining issue. 498 00:26:51,761 --> 00:26:53,834 The only thing it defines is our relationship. 499 00:26:53,869 --> 00:26:58,158 Either we're free to disagree and we can be honest with each other, or we're not. 500 00:26:58,193 --> 00:27:01,207 And what if we disagree about that? What if we disagree about something important like this? 501 00:27:01,242 --> 00:27:02,345 What do we do? 502 00:27:02,388 --> 00:27:06,031 You know, I'm not someone who just cools down about things. 503 00:27:06,334 --> 00:27:08,834 I... I like that about you. 504 00:27:09,626 --> 00:27:10,626 Come on. 505 00:27:12,263 --> 00:27:14,104 - Take your pants off. - What? 506 00:27:14,139 --> 00:27:16,250 Well, since you're hot... 507 00:27:16,575 --> 00:27:20,221 - I'm... I'm really pissed off about this. - I know. We'll use it. Trust me. 508 00:27:20,256 --> 00:27:22,973 Come on. Pants off. 509 00:27:36,500 --> 00:27:40,162 Jerry Kellerman's actually gonna take a bail writ to the appellate division? 510 00:27:40,353 --> 00:27:41,337 Now, that sounds fun. 511 00:27:41,392 --> 00:27:44,832 He's accusing us of colluding with Judge Kessler to pervert the law. 512 00:27:44,867 --> 00:27:48,336 That's why it'll be so much fun to go to the appellate court and kick his ass. 513 00:27:48,371 --> 00:27:49,757 I might even let you watch. 514 00:27:49,792 --> 00:27:53,384 I actually pulled another all-nighter getting ready for the arguments. 515 00:27:53,419 --> 00:27:54,748 What arguments? 516 00:27:54,994 --> 00:27:59,019 You didn't think I'd actually let you just go argue a case at the appellate division, did you? 517 00:27:59,615 --> 00:28:02,058 You'll come. You'll watch. You'll learn. 518 00:28:07,397 --> 00:28:10,314 How dare he appeal my bail decision, 519 00:28:10,349 --> 00:28:12,858 question my judicial integrity. 520 00:28:13,186 --> 00:28:14,616 Did you see this? 521 00:28:14,875 --> 00:28:15,735 I did. 522 00:28:15,770 --> 00:28:19,054 He is saying that we manipulated the system to keep someone in jail. 523 00:28:19,089 --> 00:28:21,584 That is the most offensive thing you can say about a judge. 524 00:28:21,619 --> 00:28:24,310 - Well, isn't that what you're doing? - Excuse me? 525 00:28:25,082 --> 00:28:28,237 We all want what we want in this case. 526 00:28:28,321 --> 00:28:32,024 But in here, between us, behind closed doors, can we not just call it like it is? 527 00:28:32,089 --> 00:28:33,871 Oh. Charlie, how is it? 528 00:28:33,906 --> 00:28:35,814 You're doing what you're doing to keep her in. 529 00:28:35,849 --> 00:28:38,461 I'm not saying I totally disagree. 530 00:28:38,754 --> 00:28:41,632 - Not totally disagree. - All I'm saying is don't get all angry 531 00:28:41,667 --> 00:28:45,486 at some defense lawyer just because he's had the temerity to call a spade a spade, 532 00:28:45,521 --> 00:28:48,256 - even if it may make us look bad. - Doesn't make us look bad. 533 00:28:48,300 --> 00:28:50,456 It makes me look bad. 534 00:28:51,300 --> 00:28:53,116 I acted within the letter of the law. 535 00:28:53,159 --> 00:28:56,467 I exercised my discretion in a perfectly judicial fashion. 536 00:28:56,959 --> 00:28:59,103 A pregnant drug abuser is behind bars. 537 00:28:59,138 --> 00:29:02,894 Her unborn child is safer. I'm not gonna apologize for that. 538 00:29:03,192 --> 00:29:04,979 I'm not asking you to. 539 00:29:05,097 --> 00:29:06,097 I'm sorry. 540 00:29:06,327 --> 00:29:09,594 You know the problem with you and all your friends is you're idealists. 541 00:29:09,629 --> 00:29:12,889 You have no concept of how idealism hurts real people. 542 00:29:12,932 --> 00:29:15,630 Our founders were idealists, weren't they? 543 00:29:15,858 --> 00:29:18,870 You want to be a judge? It's about hard choices. 544 00:29:18,905 --> 00:29:21,489 I thought you'd been around here long enough to see that. 545 00:29:21,532 --> 00:29:24,845 We make tough choices about real people. 546 00:29:24,963 --> 00:29:26,872 This was my call! 547 00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:29,711 Screw Jerry Kellerman for messing with me. 548 00:29:29,746 --> 00:29:32,602 And screw you for questioning me about it. 549 00:29:37,959 --> 00:29:40,957 There's a doctrine in our law called "necessity." 550 00:29:40,992 --> 00:29:43,608 It means that sometimes in extreme circumstances, 551 00:29:43,651 --> 00:29:45,989 you are allowed to violate a law 552 00:29:46,024 --> 00:29:49,293 in order to prevent an even greater harm. 553 00:29:49,477 --> 00:29:52,287 It's exactly what alberto was trying to do... 554 00:29:52,322 --> 00:29:54,679 prevent the horse that he cherished and nurtured 555 00:29:54,714 --> 00:29:56,751 and worked with for almost 20 years 556 00:29:56,786 --> 00:29:58,323 from dying on a city street. 557 00:29:59,543 --> 00:30:02,776 Alberto didn't want to hurt a police officer. 558 00:30:02,811 --> 00:30:05,555 He didn't aim to hurt a police officer. 559 00:30:05,590 --> 00:30:08,665 He was solely trying to save a life, 560 00:30:09,613 --> 00:30:12,208 a life he knew that only he could save. 561 00:30:13,159 --> 00:30:15,711 By pulling Alberto away from Ophelia, 562 00:30:15,996 --> 00:30:18,332 Officer Gafferty was killing her as certainly 563 00:30:18,376 --> 00:30:21,803 as if he was aiming his service revolver at her head. 564 00:30:22,657 --> 00:30:25,222 All that Alberto was trying to do 565 00:30:25,257 --> 00:30:27,586 was to get him to drop the gun. 566 00:30:27,621 --> 00:30:29,987 In a city of millions, survival depends 567 00:30:30,022 --> 00:30:32,245 on certain inalterable rules. 568 00:30:32,505 --> 00:30:34,470 Pull over when you hear a siren. 569 00:30:34,505 --> 00:30:37,830 Listen when an officer tells you to drop a weapon. 570 00:30:38,327 --> 00:30:40,057 You don't get to ask who's in the ambulance, 571 00:30:40,122 --> 00:30:43,073 and you don't get to horsewhip a New York city police officer 572 00:30:43,122 --> 00:30:45,613 and blame horse colic after the fact. 573 00:30:45,830 --> 00:30:47,190 Miss Whitman would like you 574 00:30:47,225 --> 00:30:50,476 to acquit on the grounds of necessity, 575 00:30:50,511 --> 00:30:52,336 to weigh the fate of a horse 576 00:30:52,371 --> 00:30:54,611 against the scarred arm of a police officer. 577 00:30:54,646 --> 00:30:57,039 But that is a fool's comparison 578 00:30:57,225 --> 00:30:59,087 because there was another way, 579 00:30:59,122 --> 00:31:03,413 one that didn't involve scars or horsewhips or arrests or death. 580 00:31:04,401 --> 00:31:07,469 Mr. Capulet could have simply taken 10 seconds 581 00:31:07,504 --> 00:31:10,292 to explain what he was doing and why. 582 00:31:10,851 --> 00:31:12,138 But he didn't. 583 00:31:12,803 --> 00:31:14,985 And whether or not he was right about his horse, 584 00:31:15,020 --> 00:31:17,031 he was wrong to resist arrest 585 00:31:17,066 --> 00:31:19,129 and criminal for turning a whip 586 00:31:19,164 --> 00:31:21,923 against a New York city police officer. 587 00:31:34,112 --> 00:31:36,881 The D.A.'s office and court are using excessive bail 588 00:31:36,916 --> 00:31:39,603 to do something the statutes won't allow. 589 00:31:39,638 --> 00:31:42,878 They're keeping a woman in jail to protect a fetus. 590 00:31:43,613 --> 00:31:45,586 That's quite a charge, counselor. 591 00:31:45,745 --> 00:31:49,251 What evidence is there that the bail is pretextual or excessive 592 00:31:49,305 --> 00:31:50,484 rather than reasonable? 593 00:31:50,530 --> 00:31:53,446 Of the six people arrested that night on identical charges, 594 00:31:53,481 --> 00:31:55,421 all got time served but her. 595 00:31:55,611 --> 00:31:59,041 - Perhaps their backgrounds weren't comparable. - Well, actually, Your 596 00:31:59,076 --> 00:32:02,422 Four of the other six have records worse than Miss R'mante. 597 00:32:02,476 --> 00:32:04,156 How about other factors that 598 00:32:04,191 --> 00:32:05,791 justify the disparate treatment? 599 00:32:05,826 --> 00:32:07,933 Miss R'mante has family in the jurisdiction. 600 00:32:07,968 --> 00:32:10,398 She's returned to court in the past. 601 00:32:10,433 --> 00:32:12,841 She was originally charged only with a violation, 602 00:32:12,876 --> 00:32:16,411 and the prosecution has refused to even consider a disposition. 603 00:32:16,470 --> 00:32:19,281 Moreover, despite this supposed felony investigation, 604 00:32:19,316 --> 00:32:22,900 the prosecutor on the case has made an offer of 90 days. 605 00:32:22,935 --> 00:32:25,849 Miss R'mante is 7 months pregnant. 606 00:32:25,884 --> 00:32:28,381 The offer is designed to do only one thing... 607 00:32:28,416 --> 00:32:32,323 to make sure that miss R'mante has her baby at rikers Island. 608 00:32:34,189 --> 00:32:35,189 Still, 609 00:32:35,687 --> 00:32:37,723 you're asking me to find 610 00:32:37,758 --> 00:32:39,634 that a judge knowingly acquiesced 611 00:32:39,669 --> 00:32:42,638 in a overt lie by the D.A.'s office and set bail 612 00:32:42,673 --> 00:32:43,922 on an unsupported charge. 613 00:32:43,957 --> 00:32:47,133 Your Honor, there's no other logical way to look at it. The point of a pretext 614 00:32:47,168 --> 00:32:48,879 is to subvert the law 615 00:32:48,914 --> 00:32:52,225 and advance a personal or political agenda 616 00:32:52,260 --> 00:32:56,260 and make it seem as if a prosecutor or court is merely following that law. 617 00:32:56,295 --> 00:32:58,160 I'm urging you to dig deeper, 618 00:32:58,195 --> 00:33:01,341 to recognize a power play for what it is... 619 00:33:03,011 --> 00:33:06,308 ...to see the truth behind the excuses. 620 00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:12,773 Mr. Balco. 621 00:33:22,492 --> 00:33:26,843 Mr. Kellerman speaks of a world he can't imagine and has no business questioning. 622 00:33:26,908 --> 00:33:31,038 Prosecutors are endowed with enormous power and tremendous discretion. 623 00:33:31,070 --> 00:33:35,287 We wield that power and exercise that discretion every minute of every day. 624 00:33:35,352 --> 00:33:38,270 We decide who to prosecute and when to dismiss. 625 00:33:38,325 --> 00:33:42,045 We and we alone decide what kind of plea to offer. 626 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,735 A plea bargain is a gift, not a right. 627 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,908 To allow second-guessing on evidence this flimsy is to undermine our critical role. 628 00:33:48,973 --> 00:33:53,016 Charges like this, if sustained, would invite every defendant unhappy with their bail 629 00:33:53,076 --> 00:33:56,070 or disappointed with their lea offer to cry, "pretext." 630 00:33:56,119 --> 00:33:59,287 And it would open the floodgates to a deluge of litigation. 631 00:34:00,049 --> 00:34:04,503 Even entertaing the motion is an insult to the professionalism of prosecutors 632 00:34:04,546 --> 00:34:06,589 and the integrity of the courts. 633 00:34:06,903 --> 00:34:11,892 We did what we did because we believe it to be right and know it to be legal. 634 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,049 Nothing more, nothing less. 635 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,568 Will the defendant please rise? 636 00:34:56,130 --> 00:35:00,195 In the matter of the people of the state of New York vs. Alberto Capulet, 637 00:35:00,249 --> 00:35:04,101 on the first count of the indictment charging aggravated cruelty to animals 638 00:35:04,168 --> 00:35:08,762 in violation of section 353-a of the agriculture and markets law, 639 00:35:08,816 --> 00:35:10,114 how does the jury find? 640 00:35:10,178 --> 00:35:13,010 We find the defendant not guilty, Your Honor. 641 00:35:13,768 --> 00:35:17,368 And as for the second count of the indictment charging assault in the second degree, 642 00:35:17,432 --> 00:35:19,076 how does the jury find? 643 00:35:19,184 --> 00:35:20,589 Guilty, Your Honor. 644 00:35:21,524 --> 00:35:25,114 And as to the final count of the indictment charging resisting arrest, 645 00:35:25,168 --> 00:35:26,681 how does the jury find? 646 00:35:26,746 --> 00:35:28,216 Guilty, Your Honor. 647 00:35:36,670 --> 00:35:39,957 I presume you'll be bringing in the usual sea of blue uniforms 648 00:35:40,022 --> 00:35:42,811 to remind me how egregious assaulting a police officer is. 649 00:35:42,854 --> 00:35:46,310 - Well, that was kind of my plan. - And you will give me the usual weepy story 650 00:35:46,346 --> 00:35:49,027 of a struggling man supporting his wife and five children. 651 00:35:49,092 --> 00:35:51,341 - Actually four, Your Honor. - Have a seat. 652 00:35:51,384 --> 00:35:54,789 Mr. McGrath will demand the maximum. Miss Whitman will cry for mercy. 653 00:35:54,843 --> 00:35:58,941 I think we can save us all a little bit of time if I just try to manage expectations. 654 00:35:59,162 --> 00:36:03,135 Society demands that we respect the authority of our peace officers. 655 00:36:03,297 --> 00:36:05,881 If we do not, well, then there's no order at all. 656 00:36:05,946 --> 00:36:08,059 - Exactly, Your Honor. - That said... 657 00:36:08,103 --> 00:36:09,870 I grew up with horses. 658 00:36:10,195 --> 00:36:13,123 My family could not afford its own, but our neighbors, the Dawsons, 659 00:36:13,211 --> 00:36:14,757 had a mare named Opal. 660 00:36:14,838 --> 00:36:17,649 They would let me ride her if I cleaned the stable. 661 00:36:21,811 --> 00:36:25,411 I'm not ashamed to say that I cried the night that she passed away. 662 00:36:25,751 --> 00:36:28,108 I know what it's like to love your horse. 663 00:36:28,843 --> 00:36:32,562 I cannot excuse anyone for assaulting a police officer, 664 00:36:32,687 --> 00:36:36,719 neither can I ignore the unique circumstances of this crime. 665 00:36:37,108 --> 00:36:41,081 So, while I will consider all of counsels' sentencing memoranda, 666 00:36:41,151 --> 00:36:44,459 I expect to impose a sentence of 5 years, 667 00:36:44,892 --> 00:36:49,216 90 days to be served as incarceration and the balance to be done on probation. 668 00:36:49,287 --> 00:36:51,476 - Your Honor... - I brought you in here for a preview, 669 00:36:51,530 --> 00:36:53,065 not a debate. 670 00:36:56,405 --> 00:36:59,573 When your client is released from custody, he may return to my courtroom, 671 00:36:59,616 --> 00:37:02,535 and I will consider granting him a certificate of relief 672 00:37:02,589 --> 00:37:05,054 - from civil disabilities. - Thank you, Your Honor. 673 00:37:10,692 --> 00:37:13,946 Certificate of relief. What does that mean? 674 00:37:13,989 --> 00:37:17,741 It means you can get your hack license back when you get out. 675 00:37:17,795 --> 00:37:20,195 I can get another horse. 676 00:37:22,514 --> 00:37:24,081 Thank you. 677 00:37:24,832 --> 00:37:26,205 Thank you. 678 00:37:33,973 --> 00:37:36,286 Eden, I got your message. What is it? 679 00:37:37,405 --> 00:37:38,940 What is it, sweetheart? 680 00:37:38,973 --> 00:37:41,816 - The message said, "urgent." - You got to get me out of here, Jerry. 681 00:37:41,870 --> 00:37:44,065 The appeals court will come back in a matter of days. 682 00:37:44,129 --> 00:37:46,589 You got to get me out of here now! Listen to me. Listen to me. 683 00:37:46,632 --> 00:37:50,313 If you need help getting into the jail hospital, I can ask someone. 684 00:37:50,367 --> 00:37:52,562 My baby's coming. What? 685 00:37:52,654 --> 00:37:55,119 My baby's coming. You're in labor now?! 686 00:37:55,173 --> 00:37:58,005 The baby coming! Don't let them take my baby! 687 00:37:58,070 --> 00:38:00,405 Please, Jerry! Don't let them take my baby! - Guard! 688 00:38:00,459 --> 00:38:02,038 Don't let them take it! 689 00:38:23,052 --> 00:38:24,566 baby's coming! 690 00:40:24,011 --> 00:40:25,319 how is she? 691 00:40:27,882 --> 00:40:29,146 You heard? 692 00:40:30,087 --> 00:40:33,939 She had a baby right in front of the courthouse. Word spreads. 693 00:40:34,433 --> 00:40:35,849 She okay? 694 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,941 They're taking her back to the hospital at rikers. 695 00:40:43,763 --> 00:40:46,592 Look, she can have time served. 696 00:40:48,660 --> 00:40:52,249 You already had family services file papers to take the kid. 697 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,298 Family services is doing what they do, 698 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,806 which is find the best course for the child. 699 00:40:57,855 --> 00:41:00,536 And if she had had her baby on the outside, they'd be nowhere near her. 700 00:41:00,579 --> 00:41:02,190 She'd be holding her baby in her arms right now. 701 00:41:02,222 --> 00:41:04,471 The woman is not ready to become a mother. 702 00:41:04,876 --> 00:41:08,420 I don't like it, but it's the best of all the bad possible outcomes here. 703 00:41:09,303 --> 00:41:10,817 I don't think so. 704 00:41:11,465 --> 00:41:15,249 Well, if we agreed on things, what would we have to do all day? 705 00:41:16,417 --> 00:41:19,898 - This isn't a joke. - I didn't say it was. 706 00:41:22,363 --> 00:41:27,146 The addict gets time served, the baby gets Foster care, and the bail writ is moot. 707 00:41:27,833 --> 00:41:29,400 It's over. 708 00:42:06,033 --> 00:42:07,633 It's tough to lose. 709 00:42:10,481 --> 00:42:13,606 I know you didn't feel the same about the case as I did, 710 00:42:13,790 --> 00:42:16,755 but I'm glad you fought as hard as you did. 711 00:42:16,806 --> 00:42:18,298 I knew you would. 712 00:42:18,519 --> 00:42:20,206 That's why I gave it to you. 713 00:42:22,730 --> 00:42:23,951 Thanks. 714 00:42:25,332 --> 00:42:28,828 Transcripted on Addic7ed.com by chamallow35 715 00:42:29,247 --> 00:42:31,937 www.addic7ed.com 716 00:42:31,987 --> 00:42:36,537 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 61690

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