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They said you were under the
bridge at 125th and the FDR,
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- a bunch of people doing heroin.
- They ain't get me with nothin'.
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Looks like they got some other
people with drugs on them.
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Not me.
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I ain't new.
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They charged you with appearing in a public
place under the influence of narcotics.
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- It's just a violation.
- They arrested me and my friends,
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keep us sitting in here two days
before we even see a judge on that?
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Citywide crackdown on drugs. They're
putting everyone through the system
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- It backs things up.
- Yeah, but they gonna just let us all go anyway, right?
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Even with your record,
they won't hold you.
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Should be time served. Maybe a couple
afternoons of substance-abuse...
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blah blah blah.
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In, out. In, out.
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Whole thing's just a waste of my time.
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So, we see that judge, get out today?
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Yeah.
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Good.
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"Beating a Dead Horse"
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They're really gonna take me to
trial? I was trying to save my horse.
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You struck a policeman with your whip.
He had to have seven stitches
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- They don't drop those charges.
- Now, that cop,
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he was trying to pull me off Ophelia.
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Ophelia. Right, the
horse you were beating,
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hence the animal-cruelty and
resisting-arrest charges.
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Ophelia had colic.
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You got to get a horse with colic
back on its feet, or it could die.
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That cop wouldn't listen.
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Conviction of assaulting a police officer
can mean up to seven years in prison.
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He goes in front of a
jury. He shows his scars...
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I did hit him.
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I did do that.
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Look, all I care about
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is my hack license.
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I'll plead to hitting the cop,
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to resisting.
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I'll even do some time.
But my life is horses.
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I'm a cabbie. That's what
we do in my family.
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Help me get a plea that'll let me
get a new horse for my carriage.
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Please. That's all I need.
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Did you tell anyone about the colic?
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That night, I tried to tell
everyone, but nobody would listen.
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No, I know. After your arrest.
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Only you. You said don't
tell anyone, so I didn't.
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Good. Good.
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Let's see what we can do.
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He'll take misdemeanor assault?
That's supposed to stop a trial?
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The guy horsewhipped a police officer
in front of a street full of witnesses.
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- The "d" felony's a lock.
- Hey, I'm trying to be creative.
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He'll even do a little time.
Just keep the number reasonable.
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Did I mention the
street full of witnesses?
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He is not gonna look like
the bad guy in a trial.
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Trust me. Come on. The felony
will cost him his hack license.
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Just make it the misdemeanor.
You get your conviction.
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You get a sentence. He gets to keep his
license, which is what really matters to him.
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Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Let me get this straight.
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You want me to knock down felony
assault on a police officer,
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resisting arrest, animal-cruelty charges
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so that a guy who beat his horse
to death in the middle of Manhattan
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can get his hack license
back and get a new horse?
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Well, when you put it that way, it
doesn't sound like you're gonna say yes.
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I don't think so.
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Okay. See you in court.
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Time served. Surcharges waived. Next case.
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Docket ending 672. People of the
state of New York vs. Cynthia Lazarre.
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Charged with 240.40 appearance in public
under the influence of narcotics.
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Waive the reading, not the rights.
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Same raid, judge. Same charge. Same offer
as the last five defendants... time served.
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- Defendant pleads guilty?
- Yes, judge.
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Time served. Surcharges waived. Next case.
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Docket ending 674. People of the
state of New York vs. Eden R'mante.
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Charged with 240.40 appearance in public
under the influence of narcotics.
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Roberta Gilardi. Waive the
reading, not the rights.
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Same raid, judge. Same charge.
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Same offer as the other defendants?
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Actually, your honor. We're not prepared
to make an offer at this time.
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We need to investigate this case further.
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Investigate what? The facts are
the same as all the other cases.
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Your honor, there are additional
circumstances we need to look into here.
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Judge, this is a violation. Will
the court offer time served?
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If the people say there
are additional circumstances
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to investigate, let them do so.
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Then ROR her so she'll be out
pending this investigation.
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Your Honor, Miss R'mante
has 9 prior arrests
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and 3 drug convictions in
the last 18 months.
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We ask for bail to ensure she doesn't
take off while we're looking into things.
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- Your Honor...
- Bail is set at $1,000 cash.
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What does that mean? They're keeping
me in? I ain't got no $1,000!
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They let everybody go but
me. They can't do that.
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- Eden...
- I need you!
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Get your hands off me!
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- Officer, take charge.
- Don't touch me!
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Mark her card for medical attention.
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Your Honor, I am begging
you! Please! Get off me!
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Waive the reading, not the rights.
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You can't treat a defendant differently
just because she happens to be pregnant.
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I'm not treating her differently
because she's pregnant.
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I'm simply choosing to investigate
a case prior to disposition.
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Oh, bullshit. Come on.
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No, you come on. Look, just say
hypothetically we have a drug addict
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with a long list of priors and no
indication she can clean up,
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and she's exposing her
unborn child to heroin.
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I mean, if she winds up behind bars off
drugs for the rest of her pregnancy,
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is that really such a bad thing?
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You can't lock someone away
because of what she might do
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to an unborn child.
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She was under a bridge shooting
up with a dozen other junkies.
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She is doing it. She can get medical
treatment in jail for her and her baby.
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Look, just...
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Take off your PD hat for one second
and think. As a human being
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what's the best thing for everyone here?
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The best thing is probably a
good treatment program outside.
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Yeah, well, I'm sure that
worked great for her in the past.
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She'll get a program inside.
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You have no right to hold her, okay?
You can investigate all you want,
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but we'll be back with the judge in
a day or two, and the law is the law.
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She's not walking.
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That what you sayin'?
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Yeah, look, have some candy. It helps.
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But that almost never happens.
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It could get sorted tomorrow.
It could take longer.
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I got to get out now!
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You got anyone that can
raise $1,000 cash for bail?
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Called my cousin.
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She trying to get family to pitch
in, but $1,000? That's a lot of cash.
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She's saying maybe a
week, but I can't wait.
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- I know. I know it's hard.
- You don't know!
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You don't.
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I'm getting sick.
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I got to get out. I can't
be dope sick in here.
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Please. You got to get me out.
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We still on for dinner?
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Oh, what time is it?
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Uh... almost 11:00. Come on.
Edward's is open till midnight.
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- Can I ask a favor?
- Always.
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I got Merton and Boyd both going
to trial. Roz says I'm too overloaded.
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- We're all too overloaded.
- I know, right?
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But, apparently, there's some rule you can't
have more than 115 cases pending at a time.
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Ohh. Right. That rule.
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I have to off-load a bunch of
cases before the trials kick in.
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Can I give you the important ones?
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- What do you got?
- Yes. Okay.
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- Easy pleas. Tough clients.
- Check.
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This is a trial, but there's about six
months worth of motions before it pops.
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The only front burner is this.
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Eden R'mante?
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Wait, wait. You're dumping a violation?
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Should have been out at arraignment,
but Ernhardt saw that she was pregnant
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and decided to keep her in.
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- She said that?
- She's too smart to say it, but...
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There's no reason to hold her.
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And she's hitting major withdrawal.
She needs to get out now.
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She's got a cousin trying to
make the bail, but it's iffy.
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And it's in front of Kessler,
so she's not exactly reasonable.
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But Charlie is, and he's got her ear.
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All right, so we need a great program,
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something that Kessler can't turn down
without really embarrassing herself,
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something bulletproof.
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It's 11:00 at night.
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Right. First thing tomorrow, I'm on it.
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- Dinner?
- Thanks.
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Dessert?
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Absolutely.
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Ernhardt.
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- You spend the night here?
- Actually, yes.
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I thought I recognized that outfit.
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Hey, McGrath, check it out.
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Ernhardt pulled an all-nighter. Someone
actually cares about the work.
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Yeah, boss. The rest of us
are phoning it in at 8:00 a.m.
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I'm just saying. All-nighter.
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- Hey. What's the case?
- In public under influence of narcotics.
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- You stayed up all night on a violation?
- Dedication, see?
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She's 7 months pregnant and 9 priors.
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Arrested shooting heroin
with a baby in her belly.
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And you want to keep her
in to protect the baby.
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Yes. But I cannot find
one case to support it.
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- Can you charge her for the drugs?
- They're all tagged to other people.
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I was thinking of charging assault
or attempted assault on the fetus,
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- but the laws aren't there.
- What about endangerment?
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There are no laws against
endangering a fetus.
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- Well, there you go.
- It gets worse.
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There's actually case law that
says detaing a pregnant woman
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solely because of her drug
use is unconstitutional.
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What would you do, McGrath, if
you cared to say up all night?
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Well, the law's clear.
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It isn't pretty, but it's clear.
Got to cut her loose.
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Which basically means letting this
mother destroy her unborn baby.
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I'm not saying it feels good, but we
don't make the law. We just enforce it.
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Well, we're not allowed to keep her inside
'cause she pregnant and using drugs,
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so we can't do that.
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But there are plenty of
other enforcement options.
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No, the law is a tool,
McGrath, not a ruler.
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Forget all this.
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Let me show you a totally different
idea. I think you're gonna like it.
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Me and my girlfriend, we
come around the corner.
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And I see this cabbie jumping
off his carriage.
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The horse is laying on
the ground, collapsed.
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And the guy's shouting at her. He's
screaming at the top of his lungs.
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- What was he screaming?
- You know, "get up! Get on your feet!"
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That sort of thing.
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And he starts whipping it
right there on the ground,
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over and over, cursing, calling it names.
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Do you rember what names he was
calling the horse as he whipped her?
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- Yeah. "Old mare. Lazy belgian."
- He called a belgian "lazy"?
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Yeah, he used "lazy" a lot.
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- While he was whipping her?
- Yes, sir.
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- How long did this go on?
- I don't know. It wasn't like one hit.
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It was a lot. I mean, he went on and on.
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You said you heard the defendant screaming
at the horse while he was beating her.
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- Yeah.
- Was the horse making any noises?
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Oh, yeah.
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I mean, you could hear that whip hitting.
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And horse was making the most awful
sounds when that whip came down,
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like a horse sound. Like "whinny"
you call it. You know? But
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it was worse.
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It was like screaming.
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Yeah, it, uh...
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It was horrible.
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Thank you.
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I arrived on the scene, and people
were screaming for the police.
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So I pushed through the
crowd, and I saw this guy
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whipping his horse on the ground.
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And he was really whaling
on her. He wouldn't stop.
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It was brutal. I'd never
seen anything like it.
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What did you do?
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I was in uniform, but I identified
myself as a police officer in a clear,
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loud voice, and I ordered him to stop.
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No. He continued, at which
point I approached him.
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What did you do next?
233
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I, once again, ordered him to stop.
234
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And I placed an arm on his shoulder,
and with my right hand,
235
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I reached out for his
wrist to stop the whip.
236
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What did he do?
237
00:12:46,930 --> 00:12:49,238
Well, he whirled around,
and he tried to whip me.
238
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He's going for my face, too.
239
00:12:51,614 --> 00:12:54,216
- I'm lucky I got my arm up in time.
- What happened?
240
00:12:54,251 --> 00:12:56,638
Well, his whip hit my arm full force
241
00:12:56,673 --> 00:12:58,924
and knocked my arm right into my face.
242
00:12:58,959 --> 00:13:02,981
And at that time, the other officers
arrived, tackled, and subdued the suspect.
243
00:13:03,035 --> 00:13:05,687
What happened to your arm
where he hit you with his whip?
244
00:13:05,722 --> 00:13:09,690
It was bleeding, and I got seven
stitches. I still have a scar.
245
00:13:09,836 --> 00:13:11,702
What happened to the horse?
246
00:13:11,848 --> 00:13:14,295
Well, we called animal control
247
00:13:14,330 --> 00:13:17,439
and NYPD horse patrol unit,
248
00:13:17,474 --> 00:13:22,087
but the poor animal died before they got
there. It just died right in the street.
249
00:13:24,898 --> 00:13:26,001
Thank you.
250
00:13:28,525 --> 00:13:32,687
When you identified yourself as a police
officer, did Mr. Capulet say anything to you?
251
00:13:32,741 --> 00:13:34,655
Oh, he was screaming a lot of things.
252
00:13:34,757 --> 00:13:37,709
Among those things, do you recall him
telling you that the horse had colic
253
00:13:37,774 --> 00:13:39,438
and he had to get her on her feet?
254
00:13:39,496 --> 00:13:43,215
He wasn't telling me anything.
He was yelling like a madman.
255
00:13:43,345 --> 00:13:45,266
So he didn't say,
256
00:13:45,496 --> 00:13:48,726
"this horse has colic. We
need to get it on its feet"?
257
00:13:48,761 --> 00:13:51,972
I told him to stop beating the horse,
and he was screaming like a crazy man.
258
00:13:52,026 --> 00:13:53,921
I don't recall what he was screaming.
259
00:13:53,956 --> 00:13:56,961
You don't recall him saying,
"she could die.
260
00:13:57,448 --> 00:13:59,288
We need to get her up"?
261
00:13:59,777 --> 00:14:01,188
No, I do not.
262
00:14:02,718 --> 00:14:06,772
Are you a mounted officer, or do you
have traing in the field of horses?
263
00:14:07,421 --> 00:14:08,545
- No.
- No.
264
00:14:08,599 --> 00:14:11,934
So you wouldn't know the proper steps
to take to save a horse with colic.
265
00:14:11,978 --> 00:14:15,345
And you wouldn't even know what a horse
looks like in that specific distress?
266
00:14:15,421 --> 00:14:18,318
Well, I know what a horse looks like
when it's on the ground, getting whipped.
267
00:14:18,361 --> 00:14:20,459
But you don't know horses.
268
00:14:20,502 --> 00:14:24,588
And you didn't listen to this
horse's owner when he told you
269
00:14:24,675 --> 00:14:27,648
what he need to do to save
his animal's life.
270
00:14:27,713 --> 00:14:30,634
If anyone was an animal here, it
was the perpetrator, all right.
271
00:14:30,669 --> 00:14:35,264
He was out of control and would not respond
to a direct request from a police officer.
272
00:14:35,426 --> 00:14:38,810
He beat the horse. He
attacked me. That's that.
273
00:14:42,383 --> 00:14:43,575
Michelle.
274
00:14:43,756 --> 00:14:45,088
Eden R'mante?
275
00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,834
- Isn't that Bobbi's case?
- Yeah, she's got two trials coming at her.
276
00:14:47,869 --> 00:14:49,283
Punted to me.
277
00:14:49,318 --> 00:14:51,053
- Oh, joy.
- All right, check this out.
278
00:14:51,107 --> 00:14:54,361
I spoke to a friend at the
sandler center, pulled strings.
279
00:14:54,426 --> 00:14:57,778
They agreed to put her in their
outpatient recovery program.
280
00:14:58,246 --> 00:15:00,594
- Uh, I don't think so.
- You don't think so?
281
00:15:00,659 --> 00:15:03,634
This is as good a program
as you could get.
282
00:15:03,669 --> 00:15:04,869
I'm not convinced.
283
00:15:04,923 --> 00:15:08,032
Look, Michelle, from a legal standpoint,
I didn't have to do any of this.
284
00:15:08,086 --> 00:15:09,726
- She should have been out yesterday.
- You really think
285
00:15:09,761 --> 00:15:13,383
a voluntary outpatient program
in the bronx and a halfway house in queens
286
00:15:13,426 --> 00:15:16,086
mean anything to someone with her
history of drug addiction?
287
00:15:16,121 --> 00:15:18,783
Look, Michelle, I'm trying to make this
easy. But I've got a great package here.
288
00:15:18,837 --> 00:15:22,194
Kessler will have to go for it.
I don't need you to sign off.
289
00:15:22,237 --> 00:15:24,156
- We'll see, won't we?
- Yes, we will.
290
00:15:26,635 --> 00:15:29,042
With due respect, treatment is also
available at rikers.
291
00:15:29,096 --> 00:15:30,891
This is a great program.
292
00:15:30,945 --> 00:15:33,805
She's never stuck with a program before.
And while we investigate the case,
293
00:15:33,869 --> 00:15:36,932
- we fear she's a flight risk.
- What is it exactly that you're investigating?
294
00:15:36,967 --> 00:15:39,100
It's ongoing. We'll inform the court
when we've completed...
295
00:15:39,135 --> 00:15:41,764
oh, come on! Your honor, we all know
what's going on here.
296
00:15:41,799 --> 00:15:44,591
All I know, counselor, is the people
feel she's a flight concern.
297
00:15:44,626 --> 00:15:48,722
And I'm disinclined to reduce bail
while there's an ongoing investigation.
298
00:15:51,053 --> 00:15:55,061
All right, if you won't reduce bail,
your honor, my client will plead to the docket.
299
00:15:55,096 --> 00:15:57,066
Release her to the treatment program.
300
00:15:57,104 --> 00:16:00,312
Verify with them that she's complying
with every term and condition.
301
00:16:00,331 --> 00:16:03,222
And if she's not, you can put her back
in jail.
302
00:16:03,620 --> 00:16:06,435
Well, your client is entitled to plead
guilty.
303
00:16:06,669 --> 00:16:09,858
Your honor, the people at this time
will be serving a 170-20 notice
304
00:16:09,859 --> 00:16:11,955
that we will be pursuing this case
as a felony.
305
00:16:11,956 --> 00:16:13,820
What?! What felony?
306
00:16:13,890 --> 00:16:16,387
Details will be in the indictment
when we hand it down.
307
00:16:16,388 --> 00:16:17,934
Well, that certainly changes things.
308
00:16:17,982 --> 00:16:21,559
And because this case is now a felony, your
honor, the people ask that you increase bail.
309
00:16:21,672 --> 00:16:24,404
Oh, come on. She can't make the $1,000
bail as it is.
310
00:16:24,453 --> 00:16:27,155
Then it won't matter that in light
of more serious charges,
311
00:16:27,209 --> 00:16:29,923
the court's increasing bail to $2,500
cash.
312
00:16:29,977 --> 00:16:32,846
We'll hear more after the people file.
Next case.
313
00:16:36,138 --> 00:16:39,096
- You got to get me out of here.
- I'll be back there in a second.
314
00:17:00,688 --> 00:17:01,855
A 170-20?
315
00:17:02,289 --> 00:17:03,527
Are you out of your mind?
316
00:17:04,256 --> 00:17:06,153
I don't feel out of my mind.
Do I seem like I'm out of my mind?
317
00:17:06,154 --> 00:17:08,807
You're manipulating the system to keep
a woman behind bars
318
00:17:08,861 --> 00:17:10,859
because you don't like
that she's pregnant and using.
319
00:17:10,860 --> 00:17:14,131
Oh, my God. I sound horrible.
How will I live with myself?
320
00:17:14,191 --> 00:17:17,072
Look, I'm not trying to destroy this woman's
life. I'll deal this out at three months.
321
00:17:17,126 --> 00:17:20,638
Deal what out at three months?!
What is the supposed felony charge here?
322
00:17:20,639 --> 00:17:23,016
Not that we're obligated to say
until we file,
323
00:17:23,017 --> 00:17:25,113
but it'll probably be conspiracy.
324
00:17:25,683 --> 00:17:27,888
Oh. All right, yeah. Conspiracy?
325
00:17:27,996 --> 00:17:31,261
We'll charge her along with the other
dealers who were selling under the bridge.
326
00:17:31,369 --> 00:17:34,299
All right, Michelle, you have any
evidence at all for this?
327
00:17:34,364 --> 00:17:35,998
We're investigating, aren't we?
328
00:17:36,060 --> 00:17:37,634
Okay. Come on.
329
00:17:37,764 --> 00:17:40,585
You know you have no case here.
You'll never get a conviction.
330
00:17:40,683 --> 00:17:44,974
Maybe so. But your client will sit in
jail for 12 to 18 months waiting for trial,
331
00:17:45,115 --> 00:17:47,396
or she can plead to 3 months
and be out in 2.
332
00:17:47,450 --> 00:17:48,857
Until she has the baby.
333
00:17:49,231 --> 00:17:50,905
I didn't say that, did i?
334
00:17:51,369 --> 00:17:53,364
Come on, Jerry.
Don't make me take the hard line here.
335
00:17:53,365 --> 00:17:57,547
Michelle, come on. If she has the baby
in jail, they'll take it away from her.
336
00:18:00,464 --> 00:18:02,949
You know. You know that
the conspiracy charge is bogus.
337
00:18:02,954 --> 00:18:05,210
If your client doesn't want
to take the deal,
338
00:18:05,253 --> 00:18:08,367
we can settle the matter at trial
in 12 to 16 months.
339
00:18:08,615 --> 00:18:11,306
Or I can take it to the grand jury and have
them kick it for the obvious crap that it is.
340
00:18:11,307 --> 00:18:15,356
You want to take your pregnant, drug-addicted
client to the grand jury, be my guest.
341
00:18:15,399 --> 00:18:17,502
Say Wednesday, 10:30?
342
00:18:18,696 --> 00:18:20,210
Just talk to her.
343
00:18:20,318 --> 00:18:22,172
Let her get methadone inside,
344
00:18:22,245 --> 00:18:24,143
medical supervision till she has the baby.
345
00:18:24,144 --> 00:18:28,578
I know she won't like it, but this is
the best path open to her right now.
346
00:18:31,599 --> 00:18:32,827
Thanks to you.
347
00:18:33,455 --> 00:18:34,702
Thanks to her!
348
00:18:39,187 --> 00:18:41,253
My 21st birthday,
349
00:18:41,404 --> 00:18:44,345
papi said it was time to get my own horse.
350
00:18:45,193 --> 00:18:47,384
The whole family saved up.
351
00:18:47,777 --> 00:18:51,509
We went to the stables, and there
was plenty of horses. But Ophelia...
352
00:18:54,031 --> 00:18:57,211
...we just looked at each other, and
it was like we could communicate,
353
00:18:57,349 --> 00:18:58,572
you know?
354
00:18:59,253 --> 00:19:00,680
I said, "she's the one."
355
00:19:02,258 --> 00:19:04,561
We worked together from that moment on.
356
00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,918
Most cabbies have gimmicks. They sing
or they have patter for their tourists.
357
00:19:09,042 --> 00:19:10,739
For me, it was always Ophelia.
358
00:19:11,539 --> 00:19:12,829
She would just
359
00:19:13,583 --> 00:19:16,077
look at a couple or a child,
360
00:19:16,848 --> 00:19:18,674
and they would want to ride with her.
361
00:19:18,869 --> 00:19:22,058
And how was her health
leading up to the incident?
362
00:19:22,231 --> 00:19:24,941
She'd been a bit sick the week before,
363
00:19:25,047 --> 00:19:26,562
nipping at her hindquarters,
364
00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:28,180
eating a bit less.
365
00:19:28,258 --> 00:19:29,891
Did you check her feed?
366
00:19:31,091 --> 00:19:32,854
That was the first thing I did.
367
00:19:33,491 --> 00:19:36,202
It was her usual, but I threw
it out, just to be safe.
368
00:19:36,350 --> 00:19:37,790
Got her a new bag.
369
00:19:37,966 --> 00:19:40,798
I kept her in the stable,
didn't let her work.
370
00:19:41,772 --> 00:19:44,837
And then a few days later, she seemed
better, so I took her back out.
371
00:19:44,902 --> 00:19:46,245
And she was better?
372
00:19:46,307 --> 00:19:48,810
We worked three nights, and she was fine.
373
00:19:50,777 --> 00:19:53,512
- And then that night...
- The night of the incident.
374
00:19:53,631 --> 00:19:56,470
That night, she started
breathing real heavy,
375
00:19:56,639 --> 00:19:58,435
nipping at her backside again.
376
00:19:59,072 --> 00:20:01,900
I pulled over to the side
of the street. She...
377
00:20:04,372 --> 00:20:05,607
She just collapsed.
378
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,604
And with those symptoms, what did you
think was going on with Ophelia?
379
00:20:09,810 --> 00:20:11,276
Well, that's colic.
380
00:20:11,853 --> 00:20:14,051
There's only one thing
you can do for that.
381
00:20:14,121 --> 00:20:16,389
You got to get the horse back on its feet.
382
00:20:17,064 --> 00:20:19,090
So you hit her with your whip?
383
00:20:20,053 --> 00:20:24,734
A horse's hide is thick. And if they're
sick, they're not gonna want to get up.
384
00:20:25,545 --> 00:20:27,296
You can't reason with them.
385
00:20:27,615 --> 00:20:29,188
You got to get them up,
386
00:20:29,674 --> 00:20:32,152
clear the blockage. That was
the only way to save her life.
387
00:20:32,307 --> 00:20:35,613
So you were trying to save Ophelia's life.
388
00:20:35,885 --> 00:20:36,839
Yes.
389
00:20:37,377 --> 00:20:40,426
- And what happened next?
- A crowd starts to form.
390
00:20:40,671 --> 00:20:43,231
I'm trying to save Ophelia,
and then, suddenly,
391
00:20:43,572 --> 00:20:46,388
all these people are yelling, "stop
beating that horse. You're gonna kill it!"
392
00:20:46,518 --> 00:20:48,377
One guy threatens to punch me.
393
00:20:48,464 --> 00:20:50,669
And what happened when
the police officer arrived?
394
00:20:50,723 --> 00:20:52,738
By then, I'm pretty frantic.
395
00:20:53,013 --> 00:20:54,909
All these people are screaming.
396
00:20:55,410 --> 00:20:57,898
The cop gets there, and
I'm like, "thank God.
397
00:20:58,101 --> 00:21:00,318
Keep this crowd back. We
got to get my horse up."
398
00:21:00,361 --> 00:21:02,858
And did the officer help
you keep the crowd back?
399
00:21:02,934 --> 00:21:04,567
No. He says,
400
00:21:05,069 --> 00:21:08,053
"put the whip down and step
away from the animal."
401
00:21:09,572 --> 00:21:10,718
"Animal."
402
00:21:11,950 --> 00:21:14,014
I'm trying to save her life,
403
00:21:15,485 --> 00:21:18,750
and he just says, "step
away from the animal."
404
00:21:20,750 --> 00:21:23,377
- Did you step away?
- I told him.
405
00:21:24,042 --> 00:21:26,334
I said, "my horse has colic.
406
00:21:27,528 --> 00:21:29,788
We got to get her to her
feet, or she'll die."
407
00:21:29,955 --> 00:21:33,193
- Did he help you get Ophelia to her feet?
- No.
408
00:21:33,750 --> 00:21:35,210
He grabbed me,
409
00:21:36,215 --> 00:21:39,215
tries to pull the whip out of my hand.
410
00:21:39,934 --> 00:21:43,684
This is the only thing that
I have to save my horse's life.
411
00:21:44,496 --> 00:21:46,193
I push back.
412
00:21:48,107 --> 00:21:50,557
I didn't mean to hurt him. I just...
413
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,343
I didn't want to let her die!
414
00:22:06,058 --> 00:22:08,315
- You didn't mean to
hurt Officer Gafferty. - No.
415
00:22:08,350 --> 00:22:11,604
- But you did hit him.
- I guess so.
416
00:22:12,442 --> 00:22:13,792
You guess so?
417
00:22:13,869 --> 00:22:17,325
Well, you heard his testimony.
You saw his scar. You were there.
418
00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:20,993
- I was focused on saving my horse.
- With your whip.
419
00:22:21,014 --> 00:22:22,014
Yes.
420
00:22:22,042 --> 00:22:24,996
Could you please tell the
court, what is this whip made of?
421
00:22:25,031 --> 00:22:27,517
- Leather.
- It's actually steel and leather,
422
00:22:27,787 --> 00:22:29,539
isn't that right?
423
00:22:29,658 --> 00:22:33,536
The handle and the top of the crop
have steel under the leather, yes.
424
00:22:33,571 --> 00:22:37,182
And how long is this
steel-and-leather whip?
425
00:22:37,863 --> 00:22:39,213
5 feet.
426
00:22:39,896 --> 00:22:43,363
So, when Officer Gafferty told you to
stop beating your horse and step away,
427
00:22:43,398 --> 00:22:47,104
you responded by hitting him with a
5-foot, steel-and-leather whip.
428
00:22:47,139 --> 00:22:51,639
I didn't mean to. I just wanted
them all to let me get my horse up.
429
00:22:51,852 --> 00:22:52,879
Thank you.
430
00:22:55,793 --> 00:22:57,823
Do you have a particular
specialty in your practice?
431
00:22:57,858 --> 00:23:00,866
I specialize in large
animals, specifically horses.
432
00:23:00,901 --> 00:23:04,133
And as a specialist, if you saw a
horse nipping at her hindquarters,
433
00:23:04,166 --> 00:23:06,014
breathing heavily, and then collapsing,
434
00:23:06,058 --> 00:23:08,996
would there be a particular
diagnosis that might jump out?
435
00:23:09,031 --> 00:23:12,785
Anyone experienced with horses
would suspect colic right away.
436
00:23:12,820 --> 00:23:14,939
And as a veterinary doctor,
437
00:23:14,976 --> 00:23:19,098
could you tell us what one would do
to help a horse in that circumstance?
438
00:23:19,133 --> 00:23:23,190
If a horse is collapsed, the immediate
danger is a blockage that can't clear.
439
00:23:23,225 --> 00:23:25,920
- You have to get the horse on its feet.
- How would one do that?
440
00:23:25,955 --> 00:23:30,855
isn't gonna want to get up,
so you use your whip.
441
00:23:31,209 --> 00:23:33,401
But doesn't whipping hurt the horse?
442
00:23:33,436 --> 00:23:36,796
So does slicing open a person's throat,
but that doesn't stop a doctor
443
00:23:36,831 --> 00:23:39,785
from performing an emergency tracheotomy.
444
00:23:39,820 --> 00:23:44,587
Medicine can be invasive and painful, but
we do what we have to do to save lives.
445
00:23:44,667 --> 00:23:46,741
So, in your medical opinion,
446
00:23:46,776 --> 00:23:49,952
Mr. Capulet was doing everything
he could to save Ophelia.
447
00:23:49,987 --> 00:23:51,328
Absolutely.
448
00:23:51,603 --> 00:23:55,160
And the crowd and police
officer who tried to stop him?
449
00:23:55,231 --> 00:23:57,190
I'm sure that they thought
they were doing good.
450
00:23:57,225 --> 00:24:01,763
But when they stopped an experienced
horseman from treating his animal, well,
451
00:24:01,798 --> 00:24:06,198
those do-gooders are probably
the reason that horse died.
452
00:24:18,551 --> 00:24:20,800
Isn't it right to protect an unborn child?
453
00:24:20,835 --> 00:24:24,470
Yeah, but how far do we go with that? Do
we put women in jail if they drink wine?
454
00:24:24,505 --> 00:24:26,794
- What if they smoke?
- Or don't take prenatal vitamins?
455
00:24:26,829 --> 00:24:29,973
I'm okay with drawing the
line at shooting heroin.
456
00:24:30,008 --> 00:24:33,751
What about constitutional rights, subverting
the system to keep someone in jail?
457
00:24:33,786 --> 00:24:36,821
We all know that if the baby's born in
custody, it's gonna get taken away from her.
458
00:24:36,851 --> 00:24:39,902
Oh, have you seen this woman's sheet?
I mean, it's not just drugs.
459
00:24:39,937 --> 00:24:43,432
It's prostitution, assault. I mean,
what will this kid's life be like
460
00:24:43,467 --> 00:24:47,667
- being born to a drug addict prostitute?
- That's social engineering!
461
00:24:47,878 --> 00:24:49,575
We're not supposed to do that.
462
00:24:49,802 --> 00:24:52,283
The system takes kids out of
bad situations all the time.
463
00:24:52,305 --> 00:24:54,305
Yeah, Charlie, when there
are legitimate charges.
464
00:24:54,370 --> 00:24:56,184
If family services takes the baby away,
465
00:24:56,219 --> 00:24:58,035
it's because they determined
she isn't a fit parent.
466
00:24:58,110 --> 00:25:01,097
And if she ever cleans herself up,
she can petion for custody.
467
00:25:01,132 --> 00:25:03,681
It's not some grand
civil-liberties case, Jerry.
468
00:25:03,716 --> 00:25:07,766
It's a woman being put on
bail set legally by a judge.
469
00:25:08,083 --> 00:25:10,032
You're right. It is just a bail case.
470
00:25:10,067 --> 00:25:13,167
- Thank you.
- So I'll be appealing her bail.
471
00:25:14,143 --> 00:25:17,046
- What?!
- See you in the appellate division.
472
00:25:33,885 --> 00:25:37,423
You could have jumped in back at the bar.
I wouldn't have minded the support.
473
00:25:37,458 --> 00:25:39,008
I jumped in.
474
00:25:39,399 --> 00:25:40,642
Not really.
475
00:25:40,728 --> 00:25:42,480
I'm tired, Jerry.
476
00:25:42,609 --> 00:25:45,207
I have two cases going to trial.
477
00:25:46,274 --> 00:25:49,212
I mean, are you not with me on this?
478
00:25:49,247 --> 00:25:51,850
If I were representing her,
I'd be right in there fighting.
479
00:25:51,885 --> 00:25:54,885
But since I'm not and it's just us,
480
00:25:55,145 --> 00:25:58,120
- I can't say it's an easy call.
- Not easy,
481
00:25:58,155 --> 00:26:01,039
but her fundamental
rights are being violated.
482
00:26:01,074 --> 00:26:05,615
Honestly, for me, it's not as black and
white. There's another life involved.
483
00:26:06,118 --> 00:26:11,063
So you think that the child is better off
in the system than it is with its mother?
484
00:26:11,707 --> 00:26:14,407
We're not having this conversation.
485
00:26:15,220 --> 00:26:17,910
You dumped this case because
you don't believe in it.
486
00:26:17,945 --> 00:26:19,360
I off-loaded a bunch of cases
487
00:26:19,395 --> 00:26:21,764
because Roz said I needed to
clear my plate before trial.
488
00:26:21,799 --> 00:26:24,547
No, no, no. You dumped this
case. You chose to dump this case
489
00:26:24,582 --> 00:26:26,628
because you feel more for the
unborn child than for the...
490
00:26:26,663 --> 00:26:29,674
I have defended pedophiles,
murders, and rapists.
491
00:26:29,728 --> 00:26:33,364
I fight my heart out for every client.
You do not question my integrity.
492
00:26:33,399 --> 00:26:37,799
Bobbi, Bobbi, I'm sorry.
I... I didn't mean that.
493
00:26:38,653 --> 00:26:40,942
- Bobbi, you can't believe...
- No "buts," Jerry.
494
00:26:40,977 --> 00:26:43,758
We may not agree on this
case. Can you live with that?
495
00:26:43,793 --> 00:26:46,620
- I don't know.
- Well, figure it out.
496
00:26:46,853 --> 00:26:49,250
Because if there is no room
for disagreement between us...
497
00:26:49,285 --> 00:26:51,726
this... this is a defining issue.
498
00:26:51,761 --> 00:26:53,834
The only thing it defines
is our relationship.
499
00:26:53,869 --> 00:26:58,158
Either we're free to disagree and we can
be honest with each other, or we're not.
500
00:26:58,193 --> 00:27:01,207
And what if we disagree about that? What if we
disagree about something important like this?
501
00:27:01,242 --> 00:27:02,345
What do we do?
502
00:27:02,388 --> 00:27:06,031
You know, I'm not someone who
just cools down about things.
503
00:27:06,334 --> 00:27:08,834
I... I like that about you.
504
00:27:09,626 --> 00:27:10,626
Come on.
505
00:27:12,263 --> 00:27:14,104
- Take your pants off.
- What?
506
00:27:14,139 --> 00:27:16,250
Well, since you're hot...
507
00:27:16,575 --> 00:27:20,221
- I'm... I'm really pissed off about this.
- I know. We'll use it. Trust me.
508
00:27:20,256 --> 00:27:22,973
Come on. Pants off.
509
00:27:36,500 --> 00:27:40,162
Jerry Kellerman's actually gonna take
a bail writ to the appellate division?
510
00:27:40,353 --> 00:27:41,337
Now, that sounds fun.
511
00:27:41,392 --> 00:27:44,832
He's accusing us of colluding with
Judge Kessler to pervert the law.
512
00:27:44,867 --> 00:27:48,336
That's why it'll be so much fun to go
to the appellate court and kick his ass.
513
00:27:48,371 --> 00:27:49,757
I might even let you watch.
514
00:27:49,792 --> 00:27:53,384
I actually pulled another all-nighter
getting ready for the arguments.
515
00:27:53,419 --> 00:27:54,748
What arguments?
516
00:27:54,994 --> 00:27:59,019
You didn't think I'd actually let you just go
argue a case at the appellate division, did you?
517
00:27:59,615 --> 00:28:02,058
You'll come. You'll watch. You'll learn.
518
00:28:07,397 --> 00:28:10,314
How dare he appeal my bail decision,
519
00:28:10,349 --> 00:28:12,858
question my judicial integrity.
520
00:28:13,186 --> 00:28:14,616
Did you see this?
521
00:28:14,875 --> 00:28:15,735
I did.
522
00:28:15,770 --> 00:28:19,054
He is saying that we manipulated
the system to keep someone in jail.
523
00:28:19,089 --> 00:28:21,584
That is the most offensive
thing you can say about a judge.
524
00:28:21,619 --> 00:28:24,310
- Well, isn't that what you're doing?
- Excuse me?
525
00:28:25,082 --> 00:28:28,237
We all want what we want in this case.
526
00:28:28,321 --> 00:28:32,024
But in here, between us, behind closed
doors, can we not just call it like it is?
527
00:28:32,089 --> 00:28:33,871
Oh. Charlie, how is it?
528
00:28:33,906 --> 00:28:35,814
You're doing what you're
doing to keep her in.
529
00:28:35,849 --> 00:28:38,461
I'm not saying I totally disagree.
530
00:28:38,754 --> 00:28:41,632
- Not totally disagree.
- All I'm saying is don't get all angry
531
00:28:41,667 --> 00:28:45,486
at some defense lawyer just because he's
had the temerity to call a spade a spade,
532
00:28:45,521 --> 00:28:48,256
- even if it may make us look bad.
- Doesn't make us look bad.
533
00:28:48,300 --> 00:28:50,456
It makes me look bad.
534
00:28:51,300 --> 00:28:53,116
I acted within the letter of the law.
535
00:28:53,159 --> 00:28:56,467
I exercised my discretion in
a perfectly judicial fashion.
536
00:28:56,959 --> 00:28:59,103
A pregnant drug abuser is behind bars.
537
00:28:59,138 --> 00:29:02,894
Her unborn child is safer. I'm
not gonna apologize for that.
538
00:29:03,192 --> 00:29:04,979
I'm not asking you to.
539
00:29:05,097 --> 00:29:06,097
I'm sorry.
540
00:29:06,327 --> 00:29:09,594
You know the problem with you and all
your friends is you're idealists.
541
00:29:09,629 --> 00:29:12,889
You have no concept of how
idealism hurts real people.
542
00:29:12,932 --> 00:29:15,630
Our founders were idealists, weren't they?
543
00:29:15,858 --> 00:29:18,870
You want to be a judge?
It's about hard choices.
544
00:29:18,905 --> 00:29:21,489
I thought you'd been around
here long enough to see that.
545
00:29:21,532 --> 00:29:24,845
We make tough choices about real people.
546
00:29:24,963 --> 00:29:26,872
This was my call!
547
00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:29,711
Screw Jerry Kellerman for messing with me.
548
00:29:29,746 --> 00:29:32,602
And screw you for questioning me about it.
549
00:29:37,959 --> 00:29:40,957
There's a doctrine in
our law called "necessity."
550
00:29:40,992 --> 00:29:43,608
It means that sometimes
in extreme circumstances,
551
00:29:43,651 --> 00:29:45,989
you are allowed to violate a law
552
00:29:46,024 --> 00:29:49,293
in order to prevent an even greater harm.
553
00:29:49,477 --> 00:29:52,287
It's exactly what alberto
was trying to do...
554
00:29:52,322 --> 00:29:54,679
prevent the horse that he
cherished and nurtured
555
00:29:54,714 --> 00:29:56,751
and worked with for almost 20 years
556
00:29:56,786 --> 00:29:58,323
from dying on a city street.
557
00:29:59,543 --> 00:30:02,776
Alberto didn't want to
hurt a police officer.
558
00:30:02,811 --> 00:30:05,555
He didn't aim to hurt a police officer.
559
00:30:05,590 --> 00:30:08,665
He was solely trying to save a life,
560
00:30:09,613 --> 00:30:12,208
a life he knew that only he could save.
561
00:30:13,159 --> 00:30:15,711
By pulling Alberto away from Ophelia,
562
00:30:15,996 --> 00:30:18,332
Officer Gafferty was
killing her as certainly
563
00:30:18,376 --> 00:30:21,803
as if he was aiming his
service revolver at her head.
564
00:30:22,657 --> 00:30:25,222
All that Alberto was trying to do
565
00:30:25,257 --> 00:30:27,586
was to get him to drop the gun.
566
00:30:27,621 --> 00:30:29,987
In a city of millions, survival depends
567
00:30:30,022 --> 00:30:32,245
on certain inalterable rules.
568
00:30:32,505 --> 00:30:34,470
Pull over when you hear a siren.
569
00:30:34,505 --> 00:30:37,830
Listen when an officer
tells you to drop a weapon.
570
00:30:38,327 --> 00:30:40,057
You don't get to ask
who's in the ambulance,
571
00:30:40,122 --> 00:30:43,073
and you don't get to horsewhip
a New York city police officer
572
00:30:43,122 --> 00:30:45,613
and blame horse colic after the fact.
573
00:30:45,830 --> 00:30:47,190
Miss Whitman would like you
574
00:30:47,225 --> 00:30:50,476
to acquit on the grounds of necessity,
575
00:30:50,511 --> 00:30:52,336
to weigh the fate of a horse
576
00:30:52,371 --> 00:30:54,611
against the scarred arm
of a police officer.
577
00:30:54,646 --> 00:30:57,039
But that is a fool's comparison
578
00:30:57,225 --> 00:30:59,087
because there was another way,
579
00:30:59,122 --> 00:31:03,413
one that didn't involve scars or
horsewhips or arrests or death.
580
00:31:04,401 --> 00:31:07,469
Mr. Capulet could have
simply taken 10 seconds
581
00:31:07,504 --> 00:31:10,292
to explain what he was doing and why.
582
00:31:10,851 --> 00:31:12,138
But he didn't.
583
00:31:12,803 --> 00:31:14,985
And whether or not he
was right about his horse,
584
00:31:15,020 --> 00:31:17,031
he was wrong to resist arrest
585
00:31:17,066 --> 00:31:19,129
and criminal for turning a whip
586
00:31:19,164 --> 00:31:21,923
against a New York city police officer.
587
00:31:34,112 --> 00:31:36,881
The D.A.'s office and court
are using excessive bail
588
00:31:36,916 --> 00:31:39,603
to do something the statutes won't allow.
589
00:31:39,638 --> 00:31:42,878
They're keeping a woman
in jail to protect a fetus.
590
00:31:43,613 --> 00:31:45,586
That's quite a charge, counselor.
591
00:31:45,745 --> 00:31:49,251
What evidence is there that the
bail is pretextual or excessive
592
00:31:49,305 --> 00:31:50,484
rather than reasonable?
593
00:31:50,530 --> 00:31:53,446
Of the six people arrested
that night on identical charges,
594
00:31:53,481 --> 00:31:55,421
all got time served but her.
595
00:31:55,611 --> 00:31:59,041
- Perhaps their backgrounds
weren't comparable. - Well, actually, Your
596
00:31:59,076 --> 00:32:02,422
Four of the other six have
records worse than Miss R'mante.
597
00:32:02,476 --> 00:32:04,156
How about other factors that
598
00:32:04,191 --> 00:32:05,791
justify the disparate treatment?
599
00:32:05,826 --> 00:32:07,933
Miss R'mante has family
in the jurisdiction.
600
00:32:07,968 --> 00:32:10,398
She's returned to court in the past.
601
00:32:10,433 --> 00:32:12,841
She was originally charged
only with a violation,
602
00:32:12,876 --> 00:32:16,411
and the prosecution has refused
to even consider a disposition.
603
00:32:16,470 --> 00:32:19,281
Moreover, despite this
supposed felony investigation,
604
00:32:19,316 --> 00:32:22,900
the prosecutor on the case
has made an offer of 90 days.
605
00:32:22,935 --> 00:32:25,849
Miss R'mante is 7 months pregnant.
606
00:32:25,884 --> 00:32:28,381
The offer is designed to
do only one thing...
607
00:32:28,416 --> 00:32:32,323
to make sure that miss R'mante
has her baby at rikers Island.
608
00:32:34,189 --> 00:32:35,189
Still,
609
00:32:35,687 --> 00:32:37,723
you're asking me to find
610
00:32:37,758 --> 00:32:39,634
that a judge knowingly acquiesced
611
00:32:39,669 --> 00:32:42,638
in a overt lie by the D.A.'s
office and set bail
612
00:32:42,673 --> 00:32:43,922
on an unsupported charge.
613
00:32:43,957 --> 00:32:47,133
Your Honor, there's no other logical way
to look at it. The point of a pretext
614
00:32:47,168 --> 00:32:48,879
is to subvert the law
615
00:32:48,914 --> 00:32:52,225
and advance a personal or political agenda
616
00:32:52,260 --> 00:32:56,260
and make it seem as if a prosecutor or
court is merely following that law.
617
00:32:56,295 --> 00:32:58,160
I'm urging you to dig deeper,
618
00:32:58,195 --> 00:33:01,341
to recognize a power play
for what it is...
619
00:33:03,011 --> 00:33:06,308
...to see the truth behind the excuses.
620
00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:12,773
Mr. Balco.
621
00:33:22,492 --> 00:33:26,843
Mr. Kellerman speaks of a world he can't
imagine and has no business questioning.
622
00:33:26,908 --> 00:33:31,038
Prosecutors are endowed with enormous
power and tremendous discretion.
623
00:33:31,070 --> 00:33:35,287
We wield that power and exercise that
discretion every minute of every day.
624
00:33:35,352 --> 00:33:38,270
We decide who to prosecute
and when to dismiss.
625
00:33:38,325 --> 00:33:42,045
We and we alone decide
what kind of plea to offer.
626
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,735
A plea bargain is a gift, not a right.
627
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,908
To allow second-guessing on evidence this
flimsy is to undermine our critical role.
628
00:33:48,973 --> 00:33:53,016
Charges like this, if sustained, would
invite every defendant unhappy with their bail
629
00:33:53,076 --> 00:33:56,070
or disappointed with their
lea offer to cry, "pretext."
630
00:33:56,119 --> 00:33:59,287
And it would open the floodgates
to a deluge of litigation.
631
00:34:00,049 --> 00:34:04,503
Even entertaing the motion is an insult
to the professionalism of prosecutors
632
00:34:04,546 --> 00:34:06,589
and the integrity of the courts.
633
00:34:06,903 --> 00:34:11,892
We did what we did because we believe
it to be right and know it to be legal.
634
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,049
Nothing more, nothing less.
635
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,568
Will the defendant please rise?
636
00:34:56,130 --> 00:35:00,195
In the matter of the people of the
state of New York vs. Alberto Capulet,
637
00:35:00,249 --> 00:35:04,101
on the first count of the indictment
charging aggravated cruelty to animals
638
00:35:04,168 --> 00:35:08,762
in violation of section 353-a of
the agriculture and markets law,
639
00:35:08,816 --> 00:35:10,114
how does the jury find?
640
00:35:10,178 --> 00:35:13,010
We find the defendant not
guilty, Your Honor.
641
00:35:13,768 --> 00:35:17,368
And as for the second count of the indictment
charging assault in the second degree,
642
00:35:17,432 --> 00:35:19,076
how does the jury find?
643
00:35:19,184 --> 00:35:20,589
Guilty, Your Honor.
644
00:35:21,524 --> 00:35:25,114
And as to the final count of the
indictment charging resisting arrest,
645
00:35:25,168 --> 00:35:26,681
how does the jury find?
646
00:35:26,746 --> 00:35:28,216
Guilty, Your Honor.
647
00:35:36,670 --> 00:35:39,957
I presume you'll be bringing in
the usual sea of blue uniforms
648
00:35:40,022 --> 00:35:42,811
to remind me how egregious
assaulting a police officer is.
649
00:35:42,854 --> 00:35:46,310
- Well, that was kind of my plan.
- And you will give me the usual weepy story
650
00:35:46,346 --> 00:35:49,027
of a struggling man supporting
his wife and five children.
651
00:35:49,092 --> 00:35:51,341
- Actually four, Your Honor.
- Have a seat.
652
00:35:51,384 --> 00:35:54,789
Mr. McGrath will demand the maximum.
Miss Whitman will cry for mercy.
653
00:35:54,843 --> 00:35:58,941
I think we can save us all a little bit of time
if I just try to manage expectations.
654
00:35:59,162 --> 00:36:03,135
Society demands that we respect the
authority of our peace officers.
655
00:36:03,297 --> 00:36:05,881
If we do not, well, then
there's no order at all.
656
00:36:05,946 --> 00:36:08,059
- Exactly, Your Honor.
- That said...
657
00:36:08,103 --> 00:36:09,870
I grew up with horses.
658
00:36:10,195 --> 00:36:13,123
My family could not afford its own,
but our neighbors, the Dawsons,
659
00:36:13,211 --> 00:36:14,757
had a mare named Opal.
660
00:36:14,838 --> 00:36:17,649
They would let me ride her
if I cleaned the stable.
661
00:36:21,811 --> 00:36:25,411
I'm not ashamed to say that I cried
the night that she passed away.
662
00:36:25,751 --> 00:36:28,108
I know what it's like to love your horse.
663
00:36:28,843 --> 00:36:32,562
I cannot excuse anyone for
assaulting a police officer,
664
00:36:32,687 --> 00:36:36,719
neither can I ignore the unique
circumstances of this crime.
665
00:36:37,108 --> 00:36:41,081
So, while I will consider all of
counsels' sentencing memoranda,
666
00:36:41,151 --> 00:36:44,459
I expect to impose a sentence of 5 years,
667
00:36:44,892 --> 00:36:49,216
90 days to be served as incarceration
and the balance to be done on probation.
668
00:36:49,287 --> 00:36:51,476
- Your Honor...
- I brought you in here for a preview,
669
00:36:51,530 --> 00:36:53,065
not a debate.
670
00:36:56,405 --> 00:36:59,573
When your client is released from
custody, he may return to my courtroom,
671
00:36:59,616 --> 00:37:02,535
and I will consider granting him a certificate of relief
672
00:37:02,589 --> 00:37:05,054
- from civil disabilities.
- Thank you, Your Honor.
673
00:37:10,692 --> 00:37:13,946
Certificate of relief.
What does that mean?
674
00:37:13,989 --> 00:37:17,741
It means you can get your hack
license back when you get out.
675
00:37:17,795 --> 00:37:20,195
I can get another horse.
676
00:37:22,514 --> 00:37:24,081
Thank you.
677
00:37:24,832 --> 00:37:26,205
Thank you.
678
00:37:33,973 --> 00:37:36,286
Eden, I got your message. What is it?
679
00:37:37,405 --> 00:37:38,940
What is it, sweetheart?
680
00:37:38,973 --> 00:37:41,816
- The message said, "urgent."
- You got to get me out of here, Jerry.
681
00:37:41,870 --> 00:37:44,065
The appeals court will come back
in a matter of days.
682
00:37:44,129 --> 00:37:46,589
You got to get me out of here now!
Listen to me. Listen to me.
683
00:37:46,632 --> 00:37:50,313
If you need help getting into the jail
hospital, I can ask someone.
684
00:37:50,367 --> 00:37:52,562
My baby's coming.
What?
685
00:37:52,654 --> 00:37:55,119
My baby's coming.
You're in labor now?!
686
00:37:55,173 --> 00:37:58,005
The baby coming! Don't let them
take my baby!
687
00:37:58,070 --> 00:38:00,405
Please, Jerry! Don't let them take
my baby! - Guard!
688
00:38:00,459 --> 00:38:02,038
Don't let them take it!
689
00:38:23,052 --> 00:38:24,566
baby's coming!
690
00:40:24,011 --> 00:40:25,319
how is she?
691
00:40:27,882 --> 00:40:29,146
You heard?
692
00:40:30,087 --> 00:40:33,939
She had a baby right in front
of the courthouse. Word spreads.
693
00:40:34,433 --> 00:40:35,849
She okay?
694
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,941
They're taking her back
to the hospital at rikers.
695
00:40:43,763 --> 00:40:46,592
Look, she can have time served.
696
00:40:48,660 --> 00:40:52,249
You already had family services
file papers to take the kid.
697
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,298
Family services is doing what they do,
698
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,806
which is find the best course
for the child.
699
00:40:57,855 --> 00:41:00,536
And if she had had her baby on the
outside, they'd be nowhere near her.
700
00:41:00,579 --> 00:41:02,190
She'd be holding her baby
in her arms right now.
701
00:41:02,222 --> 00:41:04,471
The woman is not ready to become
a mother.
702
00:41:04,876 --> 00:41:08,420
I don't like it, but it's the best of
all the bad possible outcomes here.
703
00:41:09,303 --> 00:41:10,817
I don't think so.
704
00:41:11,465 --> 00:41:15,249
Well, if we agreed on things,
what would we have to do all day?
705
00:41:16,417 --> 00:41:19,898
- This isn't a joke.
- I didn't say it was.
706
00:41:22,363 --> 00:41:27,146
The addict gets time served, the baby gets
Foster care, and the bail writ is moot.
707
00:41:27,833 --> 00:41:29,400
It's over.
708
00:42:06,033 --> 00:42:07,633
It's tough to lose.
709
00:42:10,481 --> 00:42:13,606
I know you didn't feel the same
about the case as I did,
710
00:42:13,790 --> 00:42:16,755
but I'm glad you fought as hard
as you did.
711
00:42:16,806 --> 00:42:18,298
I knew you would.
712
00:42:18,519 --> 00:42:20,206
That's why I gave it to you.
713
00:42:22,730 --> 00:42:23,951
Thanks.
714
00:42:25,332 --> 00:42:28,828
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