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1 {n8}Video shows flames and smoke engulfing the Zaporizhzhia power plant.

Zaporizhzhia is the biggest nuclear plant in Europe.

{n8}Two of the six units were shelled by heavy weapons.

{n8}He's saying, "Stop shooting immediately."

{n8}"You threaten the security of the whole world."

We're hearing that Russian forces

have actually taken over that massive nuclear plant.

{n8}Putin is using civil infrastructure and militarizing it, weaponizing it.

He's aware that it's impossible to shoot back

if the weapons are being used from the territory of a nuclear power plant.

He does not even need an actual bomb.

Six blocks.

{n8}It means six Chernobyls.

{n8}It means the biggest danger in Europe.

{n8}They already occupied at that time Chernobyl.

{n8}Ukrainian officials say Russian forces have now taken control

{n8}of that infamous Chernobyl nuclear plant.

{n8}The scene of the world's worst nuclear disaster in 1986.

They... They could say, "We could do this catastrophe again."

{n8}It's insane.

{n8}ZAPORIZHZHIA

{n8}FORBIDDEN ZONE - RESTRICTED ZONE

{n8}Russia is dangerously close

to risking another Chernobyl-like catastrophe,

and in some ways,

{n8}risking the creation of this dirty bomb of nuclear destruction

{n8}right there on the Ukrainian battlefield.

{n8}In the summer of 1980, the National Security Advisor, Brzezinski,

{n8}who worked for President Carter,

{n8}got this call at home in the middle of the night.

{n8}It was Brzezinski's military assistant, Colonel Bill Odom,

{n8}and he said, "We've just gotten an alert

{n8}that there are like 200 Soviet missiles headed toward the United States."

Brzezinski says, "Well, get better confirmation."

Odom calls him back and he says, "I was mistaken."

"It's not 200."

"It's like 2,000."

In later years, Brzezinski, talking about it,

said he chose not to wake up his wife.

{n8}Washington would be gone in a matter of minutes.

{n8}He thought she was better off dying in her sleep.

{n8}And he gets ready to wake up

{n8}the President of the United States and say, "You have a choice to make."

And just before he does that,

he gets another call from his military advisor saying,

"Ah. It's a false alarm."

There was a 40-cent computer chip that went bad

that told the system that we were under attack by the Soviet Union.

If President Carter had decided to launch,

the United States would have launched a full-scale attack against Russia

that probably would have triggered retaliation by Russia against us.

That could have been the end of the world.

The history of nuclear weapons over the last 77 years

will tell us that we've gotten very close to catastrophe numerous times.

And when we've survived,

it's because we've gotten incredibly lucky.

Close calls are just a feature of having nuclear weapons.

{n8}There have been literally dozens over the years.

{n8}Dozens just that the Pentagon acknowledges.

They've taken the shape of explosions...

{n8}lost nuclear material,

{n8}misplaced weapons, and close calls.

By the early 1970s,

{n8}there's an effort to regulate the nuclear conflict

{n8}to reduce nuclear danger.

But when Jimmy Carter was president,

a lot of people had a generalized sense that the Soviet Union was on the advance.

The Soviets had invaded Afghanistan.

{n8}They violated an understanding since the end of World War II.

{n8}They had moved into a part of the world, militarily,

{n8}that had not been part of the sphere created

{n8}when they liberated Eastern Europe from Nazi occupation.

The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan

seemed to crystallize that the Soviets wanted world domination.

{n8}And with news that the Soviets had more nuclear missiles than the United States,

{n8}the sense was, "We are falling behind."

"They are a threat."

We have opened a dangerous window of vulnerability to the Soviet Union.

Ronald Reagan was a former actor.

He is a two-term governor of California,

and he builds his constituency of conservatives

who are unhappy with this idea of détente with the Soviet Union,

or relaxation of tensions.

{n8}The question of war and peace has emerged

{n8}as a central issue in this campaign, and the give and take...

{n8}Reagan was among the harshest critics of détente.

We cannot shirk our responsibility as the leader of the free world

because we're the only one that can do it,

and therefore the burden of maintaining the peace falls on us.

And to maintain that peace, requires strength.

It's the same kind of fear

that had dominated American politics in 1959 and 1960.

It was happening all over again.

Ronald Reagan rode the wave of that fear

into the White House.

{n8}The early 1980s, some people call it the second Cold War

{n8}because it came on the heels of a period of détente.

♪ Ahh, eighties... ♪

Since 1970, the Soviet Union has invested $300 billion more

in its military forces than we have.

To allow this imbalance to continue is a threat to our national security.

♪ Eighties ♪

♪ Get out of my way I'm not for sale... ♪

The Cold War and the fear of World War III and nuclear war

really permeated the '80s.

And it saturated into popular culture.

Warning! Warning! Nuclear attack!

{n8}Movies and books and popular music

{n8}help us process through our anxieties.

{n8}For 40 years, both sides observed the unwritten rules

{n8}of the deadliest game the world has ever known.

{n8}There were a lot of movies about World War III, about nuclear war.

{n8}This time, they are playing with, at best,

{n8}the destruction of life as we know it.

You cannot win a nuclear war!

♪ Eighties ♪

♪ I'm living in the eighties... ♪

It was the wallpaper of everybody's life. So it was always in the background.

When Ronald Reagan became president in January 1981,

Leonid Brezhnev was still the general secretary.

The nuclear arsenals were enormous.

But there was also a lack of communication at the senior levels of both governments.

Reagan felt that the combination of mutual assured destruction and détente

had put the Americans in a box,

that we were afraid to do anything,

because we were obsessed with strategic stability.

Reagan says, "I'm going to approve new nuclear weapons systems

as a way of putting the screws to the Soviets,

to force them to negotiate."

The modernization of our strategic and conventional forces

will assure that deterrence works and peace prevails.

As a result, the Soviet leadership was quite paranoid.

They believed that the United States and its allies

were plotting a nuclear first strike

to decapitate the leadership in the Kremlin

and to then achieve world domination.

{n8}In May 1981, Yuri Andropov, who was chairman of the KGB,

{n8}proposed they embark on a major new intelligence operation.

Andropov orders this operation to try and enhance their ability

to identify whether the United States is, in fact,

getting ready to launch a... a nuclear war against them.

Operation RYAN was the largest intelligence operation

the Soviet Union conducted after World War II.

RYAN is an English version of a Russian acronym

that stands for "Nuclear Rocket Attack."

And its intention was to find indications

of a US first nuclear strike against the Soviet Union.

Their embassy guys are being told to monitor American hospitals.

Are we stockpiling blood? Plasma?

All the things you'd expect if you were getting ready to launch a nuclear war.

{n8}Bureaucracies are bureaucracies.

{n8}And so if the head of the KGB tells these guys,

{n8}"I want you looking for these signs,"

{n8}they're gonna find them regardless of what they mean.

{n8}In November of '82,

{n8}Andropov replaces Brezhnev as the new general secretary.

{n8}Then in 1983, the deployments of US Pershing II missiles to West Germany

{n8}are scheduled for the end of the year.

The Army says that the Pershing II

can fly up to a thousand miles in under 10 minutes,

and drop a nuclear warhead on a target with surgical precision.

Pershing missiles give the Soviets like seven minutes' warning

before the missile hits the Kremlin.

So they're scared to death about the deployment of these Pershing missiles,

which are in response to the Soviets' deployment

of SS-20 intermediate-range missiles in the western Soviet Union.

Although the Soviet leaders earlier this year

declared they'd frozen deployment of this dangerous missile,

they have, in fact, continued deployment.

The SS-20 was deemed to be a first-strike weapon itself.

It could reach any target in NATO Europe in minutes.

The SS-20 was capable of flying a couple of thousand kilometers,

certainly to Berlin or to Paris.

{n8}And that, of course, was for us in... in... in Germany,

{n8}almost an existential, uh, question.

Tensions were at an all-time high.

{n8}1983 was probably the most dangerous year of the Cold War since 1962.

{n8}Ladies and gentlemen,

{n8}the President of the United States, Ronald Reagan.

In early 1983, things are heating up a lot.

And then Ronald Reagan gave two nationally televised speeches

that seemed to confirm the Soviets' worst fears

and the premise of Operation RYAN.

The first speech became known as the Evil Empire speech.

I urge you to beware the temptation of pride,

the temptation of blithely declaring yourselves above it all

and label both sides equally at fault,

to ignore the facts of history

and the aggressive impulses of an evil empire,

to simply call the arms race a giant misunderstanding,

and thereby remove yourself from the struggle

between right and wrong and good and evil.

The Evil Empire speech really, uh, I think,

had a significant impact on the Soviet leadership.

The speech kind of gets them where it hurts.

HIS STATEMENTS WERE THE REVIVAL OF THE WORST RHETORIC OF THE COLD WAR TIMES

It attacks their legitimacy as a normal country

and as the equivalent of the United States.

Legitimacy that they desperately sought.

And then he delivers a speech announcing that we're gonna build

this Strategic Defense Initiative.

If it works,

it renders the Soviet Missile Force useless.

During the past decade and a half,

the Soviets have built up a massive arsenal

of new strategic nuclear weapons.

Weapons that can strike directly at the United States.

{n8}Reagan was alarmed to learn

{n8}that the United States did not actually have a way of protecting itself

{n8}from a potential nuclear attack.

Reagan says, "Wouldn't it be so much better

that instead of relying on nuclear deterrence,

we could destroy nuclear missiles in flight?"

It is time for a bold, new stroke in strategic planning.

High Frontier addresses this need

by proposing a triple-layered, non-nuclear defense.

{n8}Scientist Ed Teller suggested

{n8}that the solution to Reagan's nuclear fears

might be through space lasers.

You could put lasers on top of satellites and place them in orbit,

and this would be a way to shoot down weapons

before they returned to the atmosphere, thereby preventing a nuclear holocaust.

What if free people could live secure in the knowledge

that their security did not rest upon the threat of instant US retaliation

to deter a Soviet attack?

That we could intercept and destroy strategic ballistic missiles

before they reached our own soil or that of our allies?

The official name for this program was the Strategic Defense Initiative.

But it came to be known as Star Wars among its critics,

who were many, particularly in the scientific and technical community,

because it seemed like science fiction.

{n8}The technology was nowhere near possible,

{n8}and, in my view, still is not 40 years later.

But the Soviets find this extremely threatening,

not because it was going to happen anytime soon,

but because they were worried about a new attitude

among the Americans that said, "All the old deals are off."

My fellow Americans,

tonight we're launching an effort which holds the promise

of changing the course of human history.

Then came a sequence of events that just ratcheted up the tensions

between East and West very dramatically.

{n8}FleetEx '83 was a very large US naval exercise

in a part of the North Pacific Ocean that's bounded by Soviet territory.

The US intent was to demonstrate to the Soviet Union,

"We can operate even in your backyard."

"You can't do anything about it."

During the exercise, US Navy fighters overflew Soviet territory

in the Kuril Islands.

It was a secret hiding place for their nuclear ballistic missile submarines,

and penetrating airspace can be deemed an act of war.

{n8}There is a MiG-23 fighter base on the Kuril Islands,

{n8}and the Soviets never launch their fighters.

They looked incompetent.

{n8}The leadership in Moscow cracked the whip on them and said,

{n8}"You guys better get your act together."

And over the next couple of months,

they started massive fighter reactions

to all of these reconnaissance aircraft.

Increasingly provocative,

where they were getting into firing position behind the planes,

in some cases even arming their missiles.

The air-to-air situation got really dangerous.

And then, on the night of the 1st of September, 1983,

Korean Airlines Flight 007 was en route to Seoul, South Korea.

That flight had 269 people aboard, passengers and crew.

It's a civilian plane.

And it departed Anchorage, and they got off course.

And ultimately overflew the Kamchatka Peninsula,

which is part of the Soviet Union

and the location of a Soviet ballistic missile submarine base.

That's the holy of the holiest for the Soviet Union.

Those are the crown jewels.

You don't let anybody fly over one of your submarine bases.

{n8}I went into work maybe 1:30 in the morning.

The NCO of the watch said,

"The Soviets are conducting a really weird exercise."

They were reacting to something.

What came to mind, "Maybe it's an airliner."

And I told him,

"Call the Transport Ministry

and see if they have any transpacific airliners off course."

{n8}Roger, Korean Air 007 climb and maintain at 350, leaving 330 at this time.

Tokyo, roger.

The aircraft crossed Sakhalin Island.

It was intercepted by a Soviet air defense fighter.

I see it.

Roger, understood. I'm flying behind.

{n8}The Soviet Air Defense forces knew that if someone violates our border,

{n8}we have to shoot them down

because the US Navy violated our border just a few months ago during FleetEx '83,

and we didn't react.

I was still bugging the Transport Ministry in Tokyo,

"Are you missing anybody? Are you missing anybody?"

And finally they said, "Yes, we are missing someone."

At the same time, we were intercepting what the Soviets were saying.

Z.G.

I have executed the launch.

The target is destroyed.

Suddenly the pieces fit together.

A civilian airliner had been shot down, and almost certainly everybody was dead.

It was... extremely distressing.

Just on a human level.

The Americans say as many as eight Soviet Fighters

tracked Flight 007 for two and a half hours.

Then came the crunch.

A 1960s vintage Sukhoi jet was ordered to fire a missile at the unarmed jumbo.

Meanwhile, at Seoul's airport,

big crowds were waiting to meet the jumbo that never came.

{n8}There were over 60 Americans, I believe, on board,

{n8}including a US Congressman,

{n8}Larry McDonald,

{n8}who was a very anti-communist kind of guy.

There is an elitist core in this country

that has seen value in subsidizing communism,

of protecting communism.

- It has? - Sure.

Everyone obviously perished on the flight, including a US Congressman,

which led to some speculation that maybe he was the target.

Those of us in Air Force intelligence held to the view that...

this was a terrible loss of life.

Tragic, but it was a mistake

borne of all of these building tensions month after month.

{n8}Major Osipovich was the Soviet Air Defense pilot

{n8}who shot down Korean Airlines Flight 007.

I could see two rows of windows, which were lit up.

I wondered if it was a civilian aircraft.

Military cargo planes don't have such windows.

I wondered what kind of plane it was.

But I had no time to think.

I had a job to do.

He never shows any regret.

He absolutely believes he did the right thing.

He was gonna take that plane down, come hell or high water.

My orders were to destroy the intruder. I fulfilled my mission.

From a career standpoint,

{n8}it was safer for that pilot to shoot down that plane

{n8}than to not shoot it

and then have it found out that it was, in fact, a reconnaissance plane.

As early as the 2nd of September,

CIA's presidential daily briefing that went to Reagan

did tell the same story we were telling.

We knew pretty quickly

that the Soviets had not deliberately shot down this commercial airliner

or that that had not been their intent.

We were trying to say,

"Look, this is a catastrophic mistake that the Soviets have made,"

because we had the radio signals

between the pilot and the Air Defense Center and so on.

{n8}My fellow Americans,

I'm coming before you tonight about the Korean airline massacre.

Reagan made a nationally televised speech,

in which he called the Soviets barbarians,

and this was a criminal act.

It was an act of barbarism,

born of a society which wantonly disregards

individual rights and the value of human life,

and seeks constantly to expand and dominate other nations.

The line from Washington became,

very rapidly,

that this was an intentional act on the Soviets' part,

and it just shows how corrupt and evil they really are.

We do have evidence that's come out in the decade since, that Andropov,

once he found out that it was a civilian airliner,

was incensed.

He was very angry at the military because we're in this fraught period.

"We've got all this tension with the United States."

"What are you guys doing?"

You know? "You can't go around shooting down civilian airliners."

He pivoted off of that point fairly quickly.

It was undeniably proved

that the invasion of the South Korean aircraft

into the Soviet airspace

was a deliberate, neatly-planned operation.

The Kremlin essentially decided to circle the wagons

and not criticize the Soviet military,

and instead create a party line,

which was, "This was an intentional American intelligence collection flight."

"The nefarious Americans are so devious and clever

that they must have outfitted this aircraft with intelligence sensors."

I think this provocation by the CIA agencies was performed, clearly,

for provocative purposes now,

when important international events are taking place,

and we are filled with indignation about this provocation

that was clearly intended against our country and world's détente.

And then, just a couple of weeks later...

...at the Soviets' National Missile Defense Center,

sixty miles outside of Moscow,

{n8}Lieutenant Colonel Stanislav Petrov was called into duty that night,

{n8}because the regular watch officer was sick.

Petrov was not an operational officer.

He's an engineer scientist.

He was in charge of algorithm development

for signals coming in from satellites and other sensors.

The Soviets' relatively new and untested missile warning satellites

had only been on orbit for about a year.

{n8}It was completely unexpected, as such things usually are.

{n8}The sirens sounded very loudly,

{n8}and I just sat there for a few seconds staring at the screen

with the word "launch" displayed in bold red letters.

A minute later, this siren went off again.

The second missile was launched,

then the third, and the fourth, and the fifth.

His computers are telling him there are five nuclear weapons

coming in against Russia.

{n8}The regulations would say that he should alert the president of Russia

{n8}that there's an incoming attack.

We knew that every second of delay took away valuable time

that the Soviet Union's military and political leadership needed.

And then I made my decision. I would not trust the computer.

{n8}He thought, "This doesn't make sense,

{n8}because if the US is going to attack us,

{n8}they're not going to attack us with small numbers."

They wouldn't just launch one or two.

They'd launch them all.

I picked up the telephone handset,

spoke to my superiors,

and reported that the alarm was false.

But I myself was not sure until the very last moment.

Honestly, 50-50.

And finally, Petrov gets reports from the Arctic radar stations

that there are, in fact, no US ICBMs flying over the pole.

What his early warning system is, is seeing,

is actually reflections off clouds that make it look like it's an attack.

He is now credited as the man who saved the world

because if he had reported this up the chain of the command,

the president of Russia could have responded with a nuclear attack.

Unfortunately for Petrov, his career was destroyed by this incident.

He exposed the flaws of these new satellite systems,

and that embarrassed a lot of people higher up the food chain than him.

So the Soviets were determined to keep this secret,

but it's emblematic of the tension-filled environment in 1983.

{n8}Soviet forces did things in November of 1983

{n8}they never had done before, including during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

{n8}Able Archer '83 was the latest installment in a NATO nuclear war exercise.

Some forces within the Kremlin said,

"You know, they say it's an exercise, but this might be a prelude to war."

The Able Archer exercise,

it was meant to test communications

and procedures for releasing nuclear weapons

in the event of World War III.

Three, two, one, mark.

WarGames, basically.

WarGames, essentially. Yes.

{n8}All right!

{n8}It was one of the first of these exercises

{n8}to really play out a very realistic scenario

{n8}from tension, to conventional war,

{n8}to limited nuclear war, to all-out nuclear war.

{n8}The climax of this exercise was around the 8th of November,

{n8}when the national command authorities,

{n8}that is to say, Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan,

would be present to authorize the launch of nuclear weapons.

And just as that was occurring, NATO changed the codes.

{n8}The Soviets had been able to intercept a lot of what was going on.

{n8}So when we change the codes suddenly on them,

what does that say to them?

You change the codes if you're going to war.

From the Soviet standpoint,

it just looked like this is the real thing.

They were definitely ready for a full thermonuclear war.

Their nuclear alert posture was unprecedented.

Loading fighter bombers with nuclear bombs

and having them sit on alert.

{n8}They sent a number of their ballistic missile submarines up to the Arctic

{n8}to their wartime launch locations under the Arctic ice cap.

Andropov at the time was very, very ill.

He was in the hospital.

He had an aide with him 24/7

that had their version of the nuclear football with him,

which alarmed the senior military leadership.

They were afraid Andropov might start pushing buttons.

{n8}The head of the Soviet general staff actually went to his bunker under Moscow.

{n8}It was as serious as that.

{n8}Oleg Gordievsky was a career KGB officer.

He also had been spying for the British for some years.

{n8}Gordievsky was deeply disenchanted with the KGB and the Soviet system,

{n8}and decided to become an agent for British intelligence.

He was reporting to MI6 on this extreme paranoia

that permeated the leadership in the Kremlin, Andropov in particular.

Gordievsky, during Able Archer '83,

is telling MI6, "The Kremlin thinks this is real."

{n8}When I told the British, they simply couldn't believe

{n8}that the Soviet leadership was so stupid and narrow-minded

{n8}as to believe in something so impossible.

I said to them, "Okay, I'll get you the documents."

{n8}And MI6 provided Gordievsky's intelligence to CIA.

{n8}CIA did not pass that along to anyone,

{n8}certainly not to anyone that I'm aware of in the Pentagon or in NATO.

There was enough evidence that the Soviets

were taking unprecedented steps

{n8}that it got to the attention of Brigadier General Leonard Perroots,

{n8}who was the chief intelligence officer for the US Air Force in Europe.

Some very strong feelings...

Perroots briefed his leadership and the NATO leadership,

that the Soviets are doing some things we haven't seen before.

This is alarming.

He was asked by his leadership,

"Well, should we reciprocate?"

"Should we heighten our nuclear alert posture here in Europe?"

And Perroots' gut feeling was, "No."

"Let's just bring Able Archer to a conclusion."

"Let's not escalate."

It's Perroots' understanding of the adversary

that diffuses this crisis.

{n8}We see time and again in this '83 crisis,

{n8}it's the individuals that have the courage to stand up and make a call,

not the system necessarily that works.

When it was brought to the attention of Reagan in the aftermath,

{n8}that prompted him to realize the Soviet Union

{n8}was more scared of the United States than anyone realized,

{n8}and that we were in an environment in which it was very easy

{n8}to misinterpret information.

{n8}At this moment, there was an important film

{n8}that was put together called The Day After.

{n8}- Sunday. - This is not an exercise.

{n8}The movie beyond imagining.

{n8}It's not gonna happen, huh?

{n8}Nah. People are crazy, but not that crazy.

{n8}Over 300 missiles inbound now.

{n8}Nothing like The Day After had ever been seen on network television,

{n8}that's for sure.

{n8}The purpose of network television is to sell advertising

{n8}and to be as inoffensive and mindless

{n8}and infantilizing as possible.

The head of ABC Circle Films was responsible for The Day After,

and he had the idea of, what would it be like

to make a movie that would depict,

without taking sides or specifying who started it,

nuclear war between the United States and the Soviet Union.

We were offered cooperation by the Defense Department.

They were gonna give us helicopters and God knows what all else,

provided that we showed that the Soviet Union started the war.

And we said, "No, no, no, that's not the point."

I didn't want to make propaganda.

Any more news?

They just hit one of our ships in the Persian Gulf.

- Who's they? - The Russians. Who do you think?

We hit 'em back. One of their ships, you know?

It was presented in the simplest way.

A farm family out in the Midwest

who happened to have a missile site next to their farm.

And they were eating lunch one day,

and suddenly they see the missiles taking off.

And they say, "Oh, the moment has finally come

where we are exchanging a nuclear strike."

And, "Oh, within moments, our farm will be destroyed."

What the movie did was to imagine for people

what they couldn't or wouldn't imagine for themselves.

Good evening. Here's what's happening.

Most of you who watched the ABC movie, The Day After,

are probably still feeling just a little numb right now.

The next day, I was astonished to learn

that a hundred million people had seen the movie.

{n8}It has the distinction of being the most watched movie

ever made for television.

It was completely devastating.

It was a horrible thing to see the reality,

and how fast it could happen.

{n8}Those of us who watch it in the viewing public

{n8}are not the ones who really should get the education from that film.

{n8}It's more the people who have the authority to push the button.

{n8}Reagan got an early, uh, screening of it, and it... it bothered him.

{n8}Um...

{n8}Reagan kept diaries, which I think surprises a lot of folks

because he sort of had this genial, not very thoughtful way about him.

And yet every night, he would sit down and actually write in a diary that he kept

as president.

And he wrote in that diary, "It disturbed me greatly."

He had spent most of his life in entertainment and movies,

and that night, he wrote that this is something that really stayed with him.

Just suppose with me for a moment,

that an Ivan and an Anya could find themselves,

say, in a waiting room,

or sharing a shelter from the rain or a storm with a Jim and Sally,

and there was no language barrier to keep them from getting acquainted.

Would they then debate the differences between their respective governments?

Or would they find themselves comparing notes

just about their children and what each other did for a living?

If the Soviet government wants peace,

then there will be peace.

Together, we can strengthen peace, reduce the level of arms,

and know in doing so, that we have helped fulfill

the hopes and dreams of those we represent,

and indeed, of people everywhere.

Let us begin now.

Thank you.

Reagan, from the beginning,

had the view that he would use his first term

to right the balance of power

and make it clear that the United States

was superior to the Soviet Union in military power.

People would have laughed at this notion at the time,

but Reagan's writing made clear

that what he wanted to be as president was a peacemaker.

And he had a duality of intent.

On the one hand,

he wanted the Soviet Union to disappear.

And he thought that could happen on his watch

if he followed the right policies.

But at the same time, he also wanted to avoid a conflict with the Russians,

even as he was trying to bring them down.

The White House's desire to start the thaw,

comes after three years of a Reagan administration

for whom countering what is seen as the Soviet threat to world peace

has been the central plank of all foreign policy.

{n8}I was, I guess, the most senior foreign service officer

{n8}with extensive experience in the Soviet Union.

I was Ambassador to Czechoslovakia at the time.

They brought me back, telling me that the president

had decided that it was time to negotiate.

He thought he had, you might say,

enough chips on the table to start negotiating.

Reagan was trying to find a way to set up a meeting with Andropov in 1984.

Andropov would die before Reagan could meet him.

But he finally gets a partner that he can talk to.

Mikhail Gorbachev.

Mikhail Gorbachev, the Kremlin's new number two,

and heir apparent to the top job.

He opened a diplomatic

and public relations offensive in Britain over the weekend.

At 53, this rising star of the politburo,

exudes charm, smiles easily,

has a keen sense of humor, and an attractive wife.

Margaret Thatcher came to the conclusion very early,

that Gorbachev was for real.

I like Mr. Gorbachev. We can do business together.

{n8}He represented a different generation.

{n8}He wanted real change.

Mikhail Gorbachev was born during Stalin's time in the region of Stavropol,

which is the south of Russia rather close to the borders of the Soviet Union.

His father was a combine harvester.

There were victims of injustice in Gorbachev's own family.

{n8}His grandfather on the father's side never accepted the collectivization.

So he was arrested and exiled to Siberia,

where they worked in tremendously difficult conditions.

{n8}His other grandfather on his mother's side

{n8}was one of the leaders of the collective farm movement imposed by Stalin.

Despite the fact that he was a communist, a dedicated communist,

he too was arrested.

But then he said, "Do not blame Stalin. Stalin is good."

"It's the bad people who have done this."

So Gorbachev had this experience

of seeing the complexity of life in the Soviet Union.

Mikhail Gorbachev won a four-year scholarship

to the best university in the Soviet Union,

Moscow University,

{n8}by harvesting more wheat than any other 17-year-old

{n8}in the entire Soviet Union with his family.

So Mikhail Gorbachev makes his way to Moscow University,

which is a big thing for a country boy to do.

{n8}He meets his future wife there, Raisa,

{n8}and he enters in the stream of the Communist Party.

{n8}Gorbachev was a relatively young leader

{n8}when Khrushchev made his famous speech against Stalin,

and he saw that the perfection that the ideology promised

was not there.

After Khrushchev's speech, he was asking more questions.

TO THE SUPREME SOVIET OF THE USSR MIKHAIL SERGEYEVICH GORBACHEV

Gorbachev goes back to Stavropol and becomes the local party chief.

{n8}And eventually Yuri Andropov takes a liking to Gorbachev.

And Gorbachev is elevated to Moscow,

which is the center of the political universe

in the Soviet Union.

Many people expected that when Andropov died,

he would be succeeded by Gorbachev.

{n8}But that did not happen. He was succeeded by Konstantin Chernenko,

{n8}a Brezhnev loyalist and associate who, again, died in '85.

I saw Brezhnev in Vienna in 1979 when I was there with Carter,

and the KGB guys next to him are basically holding him up.

And then Andropov, who was dying.

{n8}And then you got Chernenko, who was also ancient.

{n8}I mean, when Reagan was criticized for not meeting with his Soviet counterparts,

{n8}his response was, "How can I? They keep dying on me."

{n8}Another Soviet leader,

{n8}who was too old and too sick when he took power to hold on to it,

{n8}has died.

{n8}And now a 54-year-old has taken over.

{n8}Someone who, theoretically, at least, will be around for a generation.

Get used to the name Mikhail Gorbachev.

Gorbachev represented a totally different, more vigorous,

energetic, smart leader.

When Gorbachev came in,

the overall number of nuclear warheads on both sides,

{n8}American and Soviet, was enormous,

{n8}from nuclear mines to intercontinental ballistic missiles.

Nuclear weapons are expensive and, for the Soviet Union,

it was the kind of burden that distorted the structure of the Soviet economy.

A lot of money, a lot of resources, a lot of expertise,

a lot of human minds went into that.

We in the United States,

spend roughly 4 to 5% of GDP on defense.

By the time Gorbachev came to power,

the Soviet Union was spending around 20% of its GDP on defense.

{n8}And meanwhile, there were all kinds of shortages.

The Soviets were under increasing economic pressure

as early as the late 1960s, because they invested so much in military.

Low growth has left officials freely acknowledging

that the Soviet economy is facing its worst crisis since the war.

He saw, "If we can get rid of the weapons,

if we can get rid of the Cold War,

that money will become available to restore the countryside

to what it should be,

and people will once again be able to feed themselves in this country."

In addition to that,

he really believed that nuclear war was totally and absolutely inadmissible.

When he was secretary of the Komsomol organization in Stavropol,

he and his colleagues were shown

{n8}a documentary of a nuclear test.

They also said in that documentary

that even though nuclear weapons were enormously devastating,

it's not kind of the end of the world.

That civil defense and certain steps to be taken can provide protection

even in case of nuclear attack.

Gorbachev didn't believe that.

When he saw that documentary,

he said to his friends,

"Well, folks, this whole thing is wrong. Such weapons should not exist."

Mikhail Gorbachev comes to power in March 1985.

Ronald Reagan is going into his second term.

And they decide to meet.

But Reagan didn't know whether the new Soviet leader, Gorbachev,

would be a reformer or not.

I said, "Let's push the envelope."

{n8}"Let's test him. Let's see how far he will go."

Reagan wanted to learn about Gorbachev most of all,

and, in effect, "How can I deal with him?"

He spent a lot of time really learning about the Soviet Union.

He would read enormous amounts of material

before he first met Gorbachev.

I wrote a few of the chapters myself, and he would comment on them.

And what struck me was how often he would underline something and write,

"Thanks, Jack, for pointing this out."

He was a man who knew very well that he didn't know everything,

and he was quite willing and grateful to be instructed.

{n8}The first time the two meet, it's autumn 1985.

Freezing cold in Geneva.

There's immense tension,

{n8}and nobody knows how this is gonna go

{n8}because Reagan is the old cold warrior, isn't he?

{n8}The guy who's called the Soviet Union an evil empire.

Gorbachev has privately described Reagan as a dinosaur.

Reagan born in 1911.

Gorbachev a young man, dynamic.

The first meeting between the leaders of the two most powerful forces

in the history of civilization in more than six years now,

and it will be a dramatic opening session.

The two men will meet one-on-one with only their translators present.

I participated as an interpreter in that summit.

I think both of them did their best

to establish an atmosphere of a frank discussion.

Everything's going on in a very careful way

while looking at all the problems

that are of concern both to the Soviet people

and the American people.

The people of other countries.

But it was not without problems.

Reagan began the first conversation with a kind of anti-communist diatribe,

where he criticized very sharply Marxism-Leninism as an evil doctrine

that spreads problems around the world.

Gorbachev took it on the chin, so to say.

He didn't want to continue an ideological discussion, and he said so.

He said, "Mr. President, there are so many problems in the world

and between our countries."

"Let us discuss those problems and let us see what we can do

to bring our countries closer together and, in particular,

to end the nuclear arms race."

And it emerges that they've actually got on really well

and actually understood each other.

And that really is the beginning of the great turn in the relationship

between the United States and the Soviet Union.

I leave Geneva today, and our fireside summit,

determined to pursue every opportunity

to build a safer world of peace and freedom.

General Secretary Gorbachev, we ask you to join us

in getting the job done, as I'm sure you will.

Then you can use the word "turning point."

Gorbachev said, "There's a line that divides my life,

and that's before Chernobyl and after Chernobyl."

Official announcement from the Council of Ministers.

There has been an accident at the Chernobyl Atomic Power Station.

One of the atomic reactors was damaged.

I learned about the Chernobyl accident

three days after it actually happened

from a very short,

terse announcement from the Soviet media.

THE COUNCIL OF MINISTERS OF THE CCCP

{n8}I lived in the major city in Ukraine,

{n8}roughly 500 kilometers downstream on Pripyat River from Chernobyl.

I immediately knew that something really significant happened

because the Soviet media normally didn't report on any accidents.

The initial situation was enormously confusing.

Extremely confusing.

A group of scientists and military people was sent to Chernobyl.

GOVERNMENT COMMISSION SENT TO DISASTER SITE

The information that they sent to Moscow was very scant.

The extent of what happened

and some of the mechanics of what happened,

became clearer as time went by.

{n8}The worst that can happen involves a loss of cooling water

{n8}around the fuel rods.

{n8}Even if the plant operation is immediately shut down,

{n8}the uncovered fuel rods would reach an extraordinary heat,

{n8}soon melting themselves right through the reactor vessel,

{n8}the beginning of a total meltdown.

A very important part of the story

was how unprepared the leadership of the country, the society as a whole,

was for nuclear accidents like the one that happened at Chernobyl.

The Soviet Union and the party apparatus

could do nothing to control the radiation released by Chernobyl.

I had small children at that time. We kept them inside.

It-it was for... for some time, uh, really an impression

that the world was coming to an end.

The Soviets tried to keep the whole accident under wraps,

but the direction of the wind that was blowing across the Baltic Sea,

toward Norway, toward Finland, activated the nuclear alarms

at the nuclear power plants in Sweden, in particular.

{n8}In Sweden, about 600 people were evacuated from a nuclear plant

north of Stockholm.

Authorities there thought at first the radiation levels must be coming

from a leak in their own reactor.

Some Western scientists suggest the type of pollution detected

could indicate a nuclear meltdown.

{n8}So the world learned about the accident in Chernobyl from Sweden,

before it learned about the accident from the Soviet Union.

{n8}The fact that it was from the West this was first reported,

{n8}this showed the disadvantages,

{n8}to put it mildly, of Soviet cover-ups and Soviet secrecy.

In an unprecedented step,

the Kremlin acknowledged there's been an accident,

but only after Scandinavian scientists had picked up high radiation levels.

The government succeeded in getting away with proverbial murder

when it comes to control over the information.

On May 6th, Soviet television presented coverage

of the first official news conference about the Chernobyl accident.

The conference began with prepared statements from government officials.

It took Gorbachev more than two weeks

to address the public about what happened at Chernobyl.

We were recently stricken by a disaster.

The Chernobyl nuclear power accident.

It deeply affected the Soviet people, and disturbed world opinion.

While the situation was not really clear about what happened

and the extent of the medical and other damage,

he has said that it would have been irresponsible for him

to talk about these things.

He was the top leader of the Soviet Union.

So everything that a top leader says in such situations,

has to be very carefully weighed and has to be very fully informed.

RADIATION LEVELS HAVE DROPPED

So you always have to bear in mind

{n8}that in such situations, there is always a danger of panic.

{n8}IT DOES NOT POSE A DANGER TO THE HEALTH OF THE PEOPLE.

Mostly men, but women as well,

were mobilized to deal with the consequences of the disaster.

Cleanup workers.

The people whom I knew, who went to Chernobyl,

continue to have all sorts of health issues

related to being present in the exclusion zone

during the first days, weeks after the accident.

There is no question that quite a few people,

particularly those who were involved in the cleanup operation,

and then the response to that accident,

lost their health, even in my family.

There is a person who was very closely involved

in the cleanup operations who was in the immediate vicinity of the reactor.

There is very little agreement

on the medical consequences of the irradiation

except of one particular issue,

and that issue is the thyroid cancers among children.

Children turned out to be the most affected category

as the result of those explosions.

I remember children had annual check-ups in hospitals

{n8}but I think that I was too young to understand anything.

We didn't understand the horror of this disaster.

A lot of children had bad diseases.

In my classroom, children died because of cancer.

I interpreted some of his discussions

with doctors from the United States and Japan who volunteered to help

in dealing with the medical consequences of that accident.

And so I saw that it really touched him very deeply, in a very emotional way.

Even though, at that time, nominally, we were still in a Cold War,

the United States, Japan, other countries, were quite willing to help.

Ultimately, it linked in his mind with the idea that nuclear weapons

were just wrong,

and that the problem of reducing them radically,

needed to be addressed.

Chernobyl was very important for Gorbachev.

It strengthened his belief in greater freedom of information

because there was a real cover-up after Chernobyl.

The conclusion that Gorbachev drew was,

that the government has to be more open,

that one of the reasons for that technical failure

was that the government agency that was involved,

was totally insulated in terms of giving out any information...

LENIN

...and therefore glasnost began to happen right after Chernobyl.

{n8}GLASNOST NOW

{n8}Glasnost means not just freedom of the press,

{n8}but the accountability of the government.

And the government,

including the Communist Party and the various government agencies,

had not been accountable to the people for years and decades before Chernobyl.

But things can change.

A lot of people predicted that the Soviet Union was gonna collapse.

The tough question was when.

The one thing nobody anticipated was that a Soviet leader himself

would begin to tear apart the Soviet Union.

The hard decisions that Kennedy had taken,

{n8}and that Reagan had taken, they were finally now coming to fruition.

{n8}Are these the beginnings of profound changes in the Soviet state?

Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall.

{n8}We were about to see the end of the Cold War.