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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:12,971 --> 00:00:15,056 Hello, my name is Detective Gil Carrillo, 2 00:00:15,140 --> 00:00:18,101 Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department, assigned to Homicide Bureau. 3 00:00:18,893 --> 00:00:21,855 The Sheriff's Department is conducting an investigation… 4 00:00:22,689 --> 00:00:24,858 on a series of homicides and sexual assaults 5 00:00:24,941 --> 00:00:26,526 occurred in Los Angeles County. 6 00:00:26,609 --> 00:00:30,572 The suspect, who has traveled highways in what we believe to be stolen vehicles, 7 00:00:30,655 --> 00:00:32,866 is always wearing gloves to make his entries. 8 00:00:32,949 --> 00:00:34,826 The suspect has used 9 00:00:34,909 --> 00:00:39,873 guns, knives, tire irons, handcuffs and thumbcuffs, 10 00:00:39,956 --> 00:00:42,709 as well as his own foot, to inflict serious… 11 00:00:43,710 --> 00:00:45,712 Los Angeles City has 12 00:00:45,795 --> 00:00:47,630 almost all benefits 13 00:00:47,714 --> 00:00:49,382 and no negatives. 14 00:01:00,435 --> 00:01:04,064 This was a decade when the queen visited, the Pope visited. 15 00:01:04,147 --> 00:01:05,398 We had the Olympics. 16 00:01:05,482 --> 00:01:07,942 We were proud of the city, proud of LA. 17 00:01:08,026 --> 00:01:12,280 For the first time in recorded history, our freeways were relatively clear. 18 00:01:12,363 --> 00:01:15,575 - It was a huge decade. - Crime dropped like a rock. 19 00:01:17,786 --> 00:01:19,162 Our top story, 20 00:01:19,245 --> 00:01:21,915 record temperatures and fires scorching the Southland. 21 00:01:21,998 --> 00:01:25,752 Downtown the mercury reached 107 degrees this afternoon. 22 00:01:25,835 --> 00:01:30,173 You have this amazing city, so many parallel universes. 23 00:01:32,675 --> 00:01:34,010 LA was a facade. 24 00:01:38,139 --> 00:01:39,307 From one side, 25 00:01:39,390 --> 00:01:43,436 it was glamorous celebrities. 26 00:01:45,230 --> 00:01:47,857 But if you went around to the other side… 27 00:01:53,404 --> 00:01:55,448 …LA could be a very dark place. 28 00:01:58,993 --> 00:02:00,495 You could be anybody. 29 00:02:02,956 --> 00:02:06,459 It also attracted very, very dangerous people. 30 00:02:09,212 --> 00:02:13,049 Nobody knows where this individual may strike next. 31 00:02:14,342 --> 00:02:17,428 The same man is suspected in six to eight murders 32 00:02:17,512 --> 00:02:19,430 and 25 to 30 attacks. 33 00:02:19,514 --> 00:02:21,724 There's sort of a thin line between 34 00:02:21,808 --> 00:02:24,727 being paranoid about it and being aware of it. 35 00:02:24,811 --> 00:02:27,730 …the so-called Night Stalker who has terrorized California. 36 00:02:27,814 --> 00:02:28,857 He struck again. 37 00:02:28,940 --> 00:02:31,151 People wonder when and where he'll strike next. 38 00:02:31,234 --> 00:02:32,110 I'm scared. 39 00:02:32,193 --> 00:02:33,319 Everybody is scared. 40 00:02:33,403 --> 00:02:37,157 I am not leaving my door open for my son, I don't care if he sleeps on the street. 41 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,617 I don't understand why somebody can't identify him. 42 00:02:39,701 --> 00:02:41,703 He has to live somewhere. Somebody must know. 43 00:02:41,786 --> 00:02:45,331 He's a weird-looking character. Somebody has to know him. 44 00:03:27,624 --> 00:03:30,251 I don't believe that anybody has a choice. 45 00:03:34,547 --> 00:03:37,217 Your number is there one day. We're all going to die. 46 00:03:45,934 --> 00:03:47,560 We just don't know when. 47 00:03:52,607 --> 00:03:54,525 You start dying the day you were born. 48 00:04:02,659 --> 00:04:05,536 I was born and raised in the Catholic Church. 49 00:04:06,663 --> 00:04:10,124 I believe in God. I believe in the Holy Spirit. 50 00:04:12,627 --> 00:04:15,546 I believe there's a devil. I believe there's an evil force. 51 00:04:16,756 --> 00:04:21,219 I just say prayers, hopefully to help give me the wisdom and the knowledge 52 00:04:21,302 --> 00:04:23,346 to bring this case to a solution. 53 00:04:41,447 --> 00:04:44,158 All the people on the block that I lived on, 54 00:04:44,242 --> 00:04:45,535 were Mexicans. 55 00:04:49,622 --> 00:04:51,207 There was a gang where I lived. 56 00:04:51,291 --> 00:04:53,876 We all hung out on the corner of Dulin and Holbrook. 57 00:04:56,129 --> 00:04:58,673 They were more important than school was to me, 58 00:04:58,756 --> 00:05:01,426 and I didn't realize that until a cop 59 00:05:01,509 --> 00:05:04,470 told my mom and dad, "Sign for this young man to get off the street, 60 00:05:04,554 --> 00:05:06,306 or he'll end up dead or in prison." 61 00:05:07,015 --> 00:05:09,267 And, so, at age 17, 62 00:05:09,350 --> 00:05:12,437 my parents signed for me to go into the Army. 63 00:05:17,734 --> 00:05:19,068 I was a crew chief 64 00:05:19,152 --> 00:05:22,488 with 189th Assault Helicopter Company in Vietnam. 65 00:05:23,656 --> 00:05:26,284 I saw heavy, heavy combat. 66 00:05:26,909 --> 00:05:29,495 By the grace of God, I made it out alive, and… 67 00:05:30,496 --> 00:05:33,666 as soon as I got out of Armed Forces, I had three goals in life. 68 00:05:33,750 --> 00:05:37,295 One was to start dating my former girlfriend, 69 00:05:37,378 --> 00:05:39,672 who had dumped me while I was in Vietnam. 70 00:05:40,256 --> 00:05:43,509 I wanted to see if I could get her back, then break up with her. 71 00:05:43,593 --> 00:05:46,637 I wanted revenge, I wanted to hurt her like she had hurt me. 72 00:05:46,721 --> 00:05:49,599 But it didn't work out that way. 73 00:05:51,225 --> 00:05:53,936 He got out of the service in June, 74 00:05:54,020 --> 00:05:56,522 and we were married by December. 75 00:05:57,231 --> 00:05:59,150 December 26, 1970. 76 00:05:59,942 --> 00:06:03,196 That was goal number one. Goal number two was to go to college. 77 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,698 Nobody in my family had ever gone to college, 78 00:06:05,782 --> 00:06:08,326 and I thought college was for rich white people. 79 00:06:08,910 --> 00:06:12,580 So, I enrolled at Rio Hondo College… 80 00:06:13,748 --> 00:06:15,625 and started going there. 81 00:06:15,708 --> 00:06:18,753 Two out of three goals I accomplished. 82 00:06:18,836 --> 00:06:21,547 And the third one was I wanted to become a cop. 83 00:06:32,767 --> 00:06:34,602 October 1st, 1971… 84 00:06:37,021 --> 00:06:40,358 I became a patrol cop at East LA Sheriff's Station. 85 00:06:45,530 --> 00:06:47,240 When I was 29 years of age, 86 00:06:47,323 --> 00:06:49,450 I got an outstanding evaluation. 87 00:06:49,534 --> 00:06:50,993 Those were hard to come by. 88 00:06:54,122 --> 00:06:55,873 When I showed it to my mom and dad, 89 00:06:55,957 --> 00:06:57,333 my dad looked up and said… 90 00:06:58,251 --> 00:06:59,669 "I'm proud of you, son." 91 00:07:00,670 --> 00:07:03,548 And he had never said that to me in my life. 92 00:07:05,675 --> 00:07:10,721 He always wanted to make his dad proud. 93 00:07:10,805 --> 00:07:11,639 Proud of him. 94 00:07:17,270 --> 00:07:20,064 After that, I watched guys from homicide work. 95 00:07:20,148 --> 00:07:22,275 They were so meticulous, so good. 96 00:07:22,358 --> 00:07:25,153 When they pulled up on the scene, everybody got out of their way. 97 00:07:25,236 --> 00:07:27,530 "Wow, sheriff's homicide's here." 98 00:07:27,613 --> 00:07:29,240 I told them, "One of these days, 99 00:07:29,323 --> 00:07:30,783 I want to do your job." 100 00:07:34,829 --> 00:07:36,998 March 23rd, 1981… 101 00:07:38,916 --> 00:07:41,294 I get called to go to Homicide Bureau. 102 00:07:42,211 --> 00:07:44,589 I only had nine and a half years experience. 103 00:07:45,173 --> 00:07:47,175 That was my goal, that was my dream, and… 104 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,218 I made it. 105 00:07:49,302 --> 00:07:51,387 The Bulldogs. That was their nickname. 106 00:07:51,471 --> 00:07:53,681 I covered hundreds of crimes 107 00:07:53,764 --> 00:07:56,017 and dozens and dozens of murders… 108 00:07:56,100 --> 00:07:57,977 In downtown Los Angeles, Tony Valdez… 109 00:07:58,060 --> 00:07:59,479 …Channel 11 News. 110 00:08:00,730 --> 00:08:04,859 …and I can tell you there were a lot of murders that ended up being solved 111 00:08:05,443 --> 00:08:09,530 20 years later, because the Bulldogs never let go. 112 00:08:16,078 --> 00:08:21,042 We probably ran 350, 400 murders a year 113 00:08:21,751 --> 00:08:23,794 for the sheriff's homicide bureau. 114 00:08:24,587 --> 00:08:28,216 Los Angeles Police Department was probably running 500 or 600. 115 00:08:29,342 --> 00:08:34,096 So, in LA County, there's probably close to 1,000 murders a year. 116 00:08:36,224 --> 00:08:38,309 And it takes a big ego, 117 00:08:38,392 --> 00:08:41,062 because you got to have confidence in what you're doing. 118 00:08:41,145 --> 00:08:43,689 You're investigating the ultimate crime. 119 00:08:45,816 --> 00:08:47,443 There's nothing more serious 120 00:08:47,527 --> 00:08:50,363 than one human being taking the life of another. 121 00:08:54,075 --> 00:08:56,577 Frank Salerno's the Italian Stallion, 122 00:08:56,661 --> 00:08:57,828 he's the goombah, he's… 123 00:08:57,912 --> 00:08:58,829 he's everything. 124 00:08:58,913 --> 00:09:02,124 When I got there, he was working on the Hillside Strangler. 125 00:09:02,208 --> 00:09:05,002 This is where the first Hillside Strangler victim was found. 126 00:09:05,086 --> 00:09:07,588 The death of Laura Collins and 12 other young women 127 00:09:07,672 --> 00:09:10,716 touched off one of the largest manhunts in Southern California history. 128 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,553 Everybody looked up to him. He's the man. 129 00:09:15,346 --> 00:09:17,890 If you saw Frank Salerno or heard his name, 130 00:09:18,808 --> 00:09:20,601 these were not small-time crimes. 131 00:09:21,602 --> 00:09:22,937 They were bringing heavy guns. 132 00:09:25,356 --> 00:09:28,609 Frank Salerno was a straight shooter. He's a disciplined guy. 133 00:09:30,152 --> 00:09:31,821 He was always a poker face. 134 00:09:32,655 --> 00:09:34,323 He's very businesslike. 135 00:09:34,949 --> 00:09:37,660 His co-workers call him a cop's detective. 136 00:09:37,743 --> 00:09:39,203 Frank overlooks nothing. 137 00:09:39,287 --> 00:09:42,540 You'd be surprised how thorough he is on an investigation. 138 00:09:47,420 --> 00:09:51,424 Gil Carrillo and Jim Mercer were teamed together as partners. 139 00:09:52,174 --> 00:09:55,219 He sat at a desk that was behind me and to my left. 140 00:09:56,220 --> 00:10:00,057 And he was the youngest detective in the Bureau at the time. 141 00:10:00,683 --> 00:10:02,435 One day, Frank comes over and says, 142 00:10:02,518 --> 00:10:05,980 "Want to go down to Little Joe's?" An Italian restaurant in Chinatown. 143 00:10:06,063 --> 00:10:09,442 And I'm sitting there and I've never eaten Italian food. 144 00:10:09,525 --> 00:10:12,778 I grew up in a Mexican home. That's what I know, is Mexican food. 145 00:10:12,862 --> 00:10:15,364 I look at this menu and I don't recognize anything. 146 00:10:15,448 --> 00:10:19,201 I don't know what it is. I remember ordering chicken Parmesan. 147 00:10:19,910 --> 00:10:22,246 And I'm eating this food and I'm laughing. 148 00:10:22,330 --> 00:10:24,957 Salerno looked at me, said, "What's so funny, kid?" 149 00:10:25,041 --> 00:10:25,875 I said, 150 00:10:25,958 --> 00:10:29,795 "Here I am, last week, I'm eating a double-wrapped red chili burrito 151 00:10:29,879 --> 00:10:32,506 off the hood of a radio car in east LA. 152 00:10:32,590 --> 00:10:34,550 Tonight, I'm wearing a suit and tie, 153 00:10:34,634 --> 00:10:38,137 eating some shit that I don't know what it is, drinking a glass of wine 154 00:10:38,220 --> 00:10:40,514 with Frank Salerno and the guys from Homicide. 155 00:10:40,598 --> 00:10:42,558 It don't get any better than that." 156 00:10:47,647 --> 00:10:50,232 I was working at AT&T, 157 00:10:50,316 --> 00:10:52,735 and across the street was a mini-mall. 158 00:10:52,818 --> 00:10:55,613 And in there was a Salvation Army store. 159 00:10:55,696 --> 00:10:58,115 And I would just spend my lunch hour in there. 160 00:10:58,199 --> 00:11:00,409 And once, I was in there, 161 00:11:00,493 --> 00:11:03,788 there was a table that was full of junk, 162 00:11:03,871 --> 00:11:05,206 and there was this hat. 163 00:11:06,248 --> 00:11:10,044 And I picked it up, 'cause the letters on it said "AC/DC." 164 00:11:10,127 --> 00:11:12,797 I didn't know what that was, and thought it was kind of weird. 165 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,965 And so, I threw it back down. 166 00:11:15,049 --> 00:11:18,177 And then on my right, here comes this man, 167 00:11:18,761 --> 00:11:21,764 and he stood right there and picked up the hat… 168 00:11:22,431 --> 00:11:23,265 looked at it… 169 00:11:24,266 --> 00:11:26,102 turned around and looked at me, 170 00:11:26,185 --> 00:11:28,437 and kind of smiled a little bit, 171 00:11:28,521 --> 00:11:32,066 and he had the devil on his hand. 172 00:11:32,149 --> 00:11:33,734 A picture. A round circle 173 00:11:33,818 --> 00:11:35,361 with the face of the devil. 174 00:11:35,986 --> 00:11:37,238 You know, with the horns? 175 00:11:38,322 --> 00:11:40,366 And he got the hat, walked away. 176 00:11:41,242 --> 00:11:43,244 When I went home from work, 177 00:11:43,327 --> 00:11:46,497 I was on the freeway with my little car, 178 00:11:46,580 --> 00:11:50,418 and here comes somebody speeding way behind me. 179 00:11:50,501 --> 00:11:53,421 Then all of a sudden, he just swerves around my car. 180 00:11:53,504 --> 00:11:55,715 It's like he's right there. 181 00:11:56,549 --> 00:11:58,008 Like a moment, stop. 182 00:12:00,970 --> 00:12:03,848 And he turns and he just… He's looking at me. 183 00:12:03,931 --> 00:12:06,934 I remembered, you know, that was the same guy I saw 184 00:12:07,643 --> 00:12:08,853 at the thrift store. 185 00:12:09,353 --> 00:12:14,734 And he has this horrible big grin and he's missing all these teeth. 186 00:12:16,110 --> 00:12:17,778 He just stared at me, 187 00:12:17,862 --> 00:12:19,447 like a weird smile. 188 00:12:20,239 --> 00:12:22,450 It was like a killer clown. 189 00:12:52,646 --> 00:12:55,691 The date was March 17th, 1985, Saint Patrick's Day. 190 00:12:59,653 --> 00:13:02,114 I actually got that murder with my partner. 191 00:13:03,741 --> 00:13:07,953 I get there and the garage door is open. 192 00:13:09,622 --> 00:13:10,706 In the garage, 193 00:13:11,290 --> 00:13:14,835 I see blood spatterings around the door and on the floor, 194 00:13:14,919 --> 00:13:17,797 right by the door that separates 195 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,090 the garage from the condo proper. 196 00:13:21,634 --> 00:13:23,511 There was a baseball cap. 197 00:13:25,763 --> 00:13:27,681 It said "AC/DC" on it. 198 00:13:28,641 --> 00:13:30,476 And I go inside the condo… 199 00:13:32,228 --> 00:13:33,187 walk around… 200 00:13:34,271 --> 00:13:38,567 and see a bloody phone inside the bedroom. 201 00:13:46,909 --> 00:13:52,206 And I see Dayle Okazaki lying on the kitchen floor… 202 00:13:53,624 --> 00:13:55,376 wearing a Dodger jersey. 203 00:13:56,210 --> 00:13:58,879 She had been shot right in the forehead. 204 00:14:03,050 --> 00:14:06,929 She'd put her hands on the countertop, and lifted her head up 205 00:14:07,012 --> 00:14:10,683 because it was quiet in there, wanted to see where the suspect was at. 206 00:14:16,355 --> 00:14:20,317 He was on the other side of the countertop waiting for her, 207 00:14:20,401 --> 00:14:22,695 knowing that she was going to pop her head up, 208 00:14:22,778 --> 00:14:24,572 'cause he could see her hands, 209 00:14:24,655 --> 00:14:27,408 waiting there, and when she did, he pulled the trigger. 210 00:14:38,168 --> 00:14:40,045 Maria Hernandez had just driven home. 211 00:14:40,129 --> 00:14:42,089 She entered via the garage door 212 00:14:42,172 --> 00:14:45,134 that she opened with a garage door opener, a remote. 213 00:14:46,427 --> 00:14:50,556 Maria says she keyed the door when she heard an intentional noise. 214 00:14:50,639 --> 00:14:55,144 She turned around and there was a male suspect with a stargazed look, 215 00:14:55,227 --> 00:14:58,105 with a gun stretched out coming towards her face, 216 00:14:58,188 --> 00:15:00,900 and she put her hands up and he pulled the trigger. 217 00:15:02,234 --> 00:15:05,404 The bullet deflected off the keys in her hand. 218 00:15:06,780 --> 00:15:08,240 It knocked her to the ground. 219 00:15:08,324 --> 00:15:11,493 He then pushed her body out of the way, entered the condo. 220 00:15:12,077 --> 00:15:15,331 She jumped up and started running down the alleyway 221 00:15:15,414 --> 00:15:16,874 when she heard another gunshot. 222 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,294 She became concerned for her roommate, 223 00:15:20,377 --> 00:15:23,130 so she went around the front of the condo 224 00:15:23,213 --> 00:15:25,925 thinking he'll come back out the garage door. 225 00:15:26,550 --> 00:15:28,260 But he didn't. 226 00:15:29,428 --> 00:15:31,055 He came out the front door. 227 00:15:32,431 --> 00:15:33,474 He sees her. 228 00:15:34,016 --> 00:15:36,518 He's just as startled as she is to see him. 229 00:15:37,478 --> 00:15:39,813 Maria says, "I just threw my hands up and said, 230 00:15:39,897 --> 00:15:43,484 'Hey, you already shot me once, do you really have to shoot me again?'" 231 00:15:44,234 --> 00:15:45,110 At which time, 232 00:15:45,694 --> 00:15:47,821 the suspect puts the gun down by his side 233 00:15:47,905 --> 00:15:49,239 and doesn't even run. 234 00:15:50,032 --> 00:15:51,116 He walks away. 235 00:16:06,423 --> 00:16:08,342 I'm at the Maria Hernandez house. 236 00:16:08,425 --> 00:16:10,594 I'm not thinking about anything else, 237 00:16:10,678 --> 00:16:14,682 other than getting accurate documentations of what my observations are. 238 00:16:16,350 --> 00:16:18,352 So, I'm documenting everything 239 00:16:18,435 --> 00:16:21,397 from ambiance to smell, 240 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,818 using fixed objects to measure where her foot is, where her head is, 241 00:16:25,901 --> 00:16:26,944 and… 242 00:16:27,653 --> 00:16:32,366 directing the photographer to take photographs of the crime scene. 243 00:16:32,992 --> 00:16:34,994 And once that's done, 244 00:16:35,619 --> 00:16:37,705 then I can start thinking about motives, 245 00:16:37,788 --> 00:16:39,790 and thinking about solving this case. 246 00:16:44,712 --> 00:16:48,465 I'm inside the living room and the deputy opens a door and says, 247 00:16:48,549 --> 00:16:52,553 "Excuse me, the mother of Maria Hernandez is out here 248 00:16:52,636 --> 00:16:54,722 and she'd like to have a word with you." 249 00:16:55,305 --> 00:16:58,142 While the door is open, he's standing there, I hear somebody say, 250 00:16:58,892 --> 00:17:00,269 "Gilbert, is that you?" 251 00:17:00,769 --> 00:17:03,605 I'm there saying, "Gilbert? Nobody calls me-- I'm Gil. 252 00:17:03,689 --> 00:17:05,441 I'm too cool to be Gilbert." 253 00:17:05,524 --> 00:17:08,068 And I can't see her, I hear her voice. 254 00:17:08,152 --> 00:17:09,278 And she says, 255 00:17:10,237 --> 00:17:11,405 "It's me, Pauline." 256 00:17:11,947 --> 00:17:13,657 And I said, "Pumpkin?" 257 00:17:13,741 --> 00:17:15,034 And she said, "Yes." 258 00:17:15,617 --> 00:17:18,037 And it was the mother of Maria Hernandez. 259 00:17:18,120 --> 00:17:22,207 A neighbor that lived three doors down from me when I was a kid growing up. 260 00:17:23,751 --> 00:17:26,045 This case was already close to home. 261 00:17:35,554 --> 00:17:39,892 We find out the next day that 40 minutes after the murder of Dayle Okazaki, 262 00:17:39,975 --> 00:17:42,102 the Monterey Park Police Department got a call. 263 00:17:42,936 --> 00:17:45,314 There was a murder that had occurred 264 00:17:45,397 --> 00:17:47,983 probably a mile from where Dayle Okazaki got killed. 265 00:17:48,067 --> 00:17:53,155 They've got a young Asian girl that is driving down the street, 266 00:17:53,238 --> 00:17:54,656 and all of a sudden 267 00:17:54,740 --> 00:17:56,075 she is stopped, 268 00:17:57,367 --> 00:18:00,120 and she's yanked out of her car, 269 00:18:01,121 --> 00:18:02,372 and she's shot 270 00:18:02,456 --> 00:18:04,041 for no apparent reason. 271 00:18:06,502 --> 00:18:10,714 Tsai-Lian Yu was left sprawled in the street, shot in the chest. 272 00:18:10,798 --> 00:18:11,757 Her last words: 273 00:18:12,716 --> 00:18:14,343 "Help me! Help me!" 274 00:18:18,847 --> 00:18:20,808 It was the same caliber weapon, 275 00:18:20,891 --> 00:18:24,937 but you can't assume that it's the same gun because… 276 00:18:26,688 --> 00:18:30,484 …there are thousands upon thousands of .22s out there. 277 00:18:30,567 --> 00:18:31,693 Maybe it's not. 278 00:18:34,446 --> 00:18:37,741 So now we have Maria Hernandez in the hospital. 279 00:18:38,534 --> 00:18:40,911 We told her we'd like to send the staff artist. 280 00:18:41,703 --> 00:18:42,955 She says, "Sure." 281 00:18:44,081 --> 00:18:48,502 I can tell you he was… 5'10", something like that. Dark clothes… 282 00:18:48,585 --> 00:18:51,171 When that staff artist brought me the picture, 283 00:18:51,255 --> 00:18:54,341 I was showing it to the detectives over at East LA Station, 284 00:18:54,424 --> 00:18:57,010 and a friend of mine said, "Gil, hold that thought." 285 00:18:57,094 --> 00:19:00,222 He goes out to his car and he brings out an identikit drawing. 286 00:19:01,014 --> 00:19:03,475 You put them together, it looks like the same guy. 287 00:19:06,103 --> 00:19:09,565 His drawing came from the physical description of a suspect 288 00:19:09,648 --> 00:19:12,526 of an attempted kidnapping out of the city of Pico Rivera. 289 00:19:13,527 --> 00:19:15,988 My mind started working because, 290 00:19:16,071 --> 00:19:19,575 before I got to Homicide, I was going to Cal State LA. 291 00:19:19,658 --> 00:19:22,035 There was a professor by the name of Robert Morneau. 292 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,663 Great man, best professor I've ever had. 293 00:19:24,746 --> 00:19:28,709 And I took Advanced Criminal Investigation Pertaining to Sex Crimes from him. 294 00:19:28,792 --> 00:19:33,172 And I remembered that there's a deviancy that says, 295 00:19:33,797 --> 00:19:36,550 "I like to see a frightened look on your face." 296 00:19:37,885 --> 00:19:42,431 "I want to see you scared. That's what really gets me turned on." 297 00:19:42,514 --> 00:19:44,183 That's excitement to them. 298 00:19:45,017 --> 00:19:46,810 With Maria Hernandez, 299 00:19:46,894 --> 00:19:49,897 he could have walked up behind her in silence and killed her. 300 00:19:49,980 --> 00:19:50,981 He didn't. 301 00:19:51,064 --> 00:19:53,192 He intentionally slapped the top of a car… 302 00:19:53,275 --> 00:19:55,861 …so she could turn around and see him. 303 00:19:56,612 --> 00:19:57,946 Dayle Okazaki, 304 00:19:58,030 --> 00:20:02,034 she was down on the ground and he waited until he saw the fear in her eyes, 305 00:20:02,117 --> 00:20:03,911 then he shot her right here. 306 00:20:05,787 --> 00:20:06,872 Tsai-Lian Yu, 307 00:20:07,748 --> 00:20:10,209 why wasn't she killed right there in the car? 308 00:20:10,292 --> 00:20:13,212 Whoever the suspect was wanted confrontation. 309 00:20:13,295 --> 00:20:14,504 Wanted to see that fear. 310 00:20:15,088 --> 00:20:20,135 That's what started me thinking about, perhaps, one man doing this. 311 00:20:35,275 --> 00:20:36,235 …with… 312 00:20:59,174 --> 00:21:00,050 And… 313 00:21:24,241 --> 00:21:28,036 Ten days after Okazaki, Hernandez, and Yu, 314 00:21:28,120 --> 00:21:31,999 there is a double murder out in Whittier County area. 315 00:21:33,750 --> 00:21:36,461 The house of Vincent and Maxine Zazzara. 316 00:21:37,879 --> 00:21:41,174 JD Smith and Russ Yuloth went to that case. It was their murder. 317 00:21:41,883 --> 00:21:43,510 It's a pretty brutal murder. 318 00:21:44,094 --> 00:21:47,639 You could see where he stepped on a five-gallon plastic can 319 00:21:47,723 --> 00:21:50,726 and got in the house through an open restroom window. 320 00:21:51,310 --> 00:21:52,686 The place was ransacked. 321 00:21:53,687 --> 00:21:56,273 There was a $40,000 theft 322 00:21:56,356 --> 00:21:58,775 that occurred there in jewelry and things. 323 00:21:59,818 --> 00:22:03,947 The male is executed as he's sleeping on the couch… 324 00:22:04,031 --> 00:22:06,408 …with a gunshot wound to the temple. 325 00:22:09,411 --> 00:22:10,746 A .22 was used. 326 00:22:12,372 --> 00:22:16,585 So now you have Dayle Okazaki killed with a .22, 327 00:22:16,668 --> 00:22:20,922 Tsai-Lian Yu killed with a .22, and the Zazzaras killed with a .22. 328 00:22:22,382 --> 00:22:25,135 And the woman is found in bed. 329 00:22:25,218 --> 00:22:28,430 She has several stab wounds just above the vagina. 330 00:22:28,513 --> 00:22:30,349 She had been raped, 331 00:22:30,432 --> 00:22:33,268 and he actually cut her eyes out. 332 00:22:39,733 --> 00:22:40,650 Why? 333 00:22:41,818 --> 00:22:43,028 Why did he do that? 334 00:22:46,448 --> 00:22:51,203 Was it because she stared at him or got a hard look at him? 335 00:22:52,371 --> 00:22:53,955 He took the eyes with him, 336 00:22:54,539 --> 00:22:55,957 and then he's gone. 337 00:23:15,435 --> 00:23:17,979 The biggest thing in that case was… 338 00:23:19,106 --> 00:23:20,148 a shoe print left 339 00:23:20,732 --> 00:23:21,858 at the point of entry 340 00:23:21,942 --> 00:23:23,777 and in flower beds around the house. 341 00:23:26,029 --> 00:23:29,699 That was a full-sized 11 to 12 shoe. 342 00:24:11,199 --> 00:24:16,163 I was six, and my first memory of that night is… 343 00:24:18,915 --> 00:24:22,085 the window opening and being woken up. 344 00:24:22,919 --> 00:24:25,255 And then being ushered out the window, 345 00:24:26,047 --> 00:24:27,382 and being carried. 346 00:24:31,970 --> 00:24:34,389 It kind of hurts me to say that 347 00:24:34,973 --> 00:24:37,559 there was a familiarity, uh… 348 00:24:37,642 --> 00:24:38,643 you know, 349 00:24:38,727 --> 00:24:42,647 he reminded me of a family member, 350 00:24:42,731 --> 00:24:46,568 and, you know, I was half asleep, I didn't know what was going on. 351 00:24:46,651 --> 00:24:48,987 So, I thought, "Well, that's okay. I know him, 352 00:24:49,070 --> 00:24:52,741 so… I guess this is okay that I'm going." 353 00:24:58,205 --> 00:25:01,875 I don't know how long I was in the car or what it looked like. 354 00:25:03,627 --> 00:25:04,794 But I do remember 355 00:25:05,504 --> 00:25:08,006 there was one point where we were driving, 356 00:25:08,089 --> 00:25:10,717 and… he looked at me and, 357 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,135 he said, you know, 358 00:25:12,219 --> 00:25:14,513 "Open up the glove compartment." 359 00:25:14,596 --> 00:25:16,973 And I did and there was a gun inside. 360 00:25:17,933 --> 00:25:22,062 And he shut it and just kind of like-- "Just so you know, that's there." 361 00:25:23,772 --> 00:25:25,315 Things started from there. 362 00:25:25,398 --> 00:25:26,399 Um… 363 00:25:28,026 --> 00:25:28,860 You know… 364 00:25:31,947 --> 00:25:32,906 Look at him and… 365 00:25:33,490 --> 00:25:35,742 touch him and things like that. 366 00:25:35,825 --> 00:25:36,826 Um… 367 00:25:42,749 --> 00:25:44,709 And then we got to where we were going. 368 00:25:44,793 --> 00:25:48,713 I remember there being German Shepherds barking and a chain-link fence. 369 00:25:52,050 --> 00:25:55,929 And he made me get into a zipped-up duffel bag 370 00:25:56,012 --> 00:25:58,640 and he told me, "You need to be quiet. 371 00:25:58,723 --> 00:26:00,141 You need to get in here." 372 00:26:00,225 --> 00:26:01,685 Like, "Don't mess with me. 373 00:26:02,811 --> 00:26:03,979 Do what I say." 374 00:26:07,816 --> 00:26:11,695 We had to walk through a room with a couch, 375 00:26:11,778 --> 00:26:14,114 and everything was dark and kind of dingy. 376 00:26:14,197 --> 00:26:16,116 The windows were covered 377 00:26:16,199 --> 00:26:20,870 with drapery or something that made it dark, and… 378 00:26:22,581 --> 00:26:24,874 I don't know. Just slimy. 379 00:26:27,460 --> 00:26:29,337 Food packages and… 380 00:26:29,838 --> 00:26:31,715 take-out stuff around. 381 00:26:32,632 --> 00:26:34,884 Very not my house. 382 00:26:38,054 --> 00:26:41,099 There was just this soundtrack of Madonna going on. 383 00:26:43,184 --> 00:26:45,312 "Holiday" and "Like a Virgin." 384 00:26:46,021 --> 00:26:47,397 All of those songs… 385 00:26:53,236 --> 00:26:54,237 …over and over. 386 00:26:55,447 --> 00:27:00,285 I remember saying, "Stop. This hurts. Don't." 387 00:27:00,952 --> 00:27:03,038 Or, like, "Why are you doing this?" 388 00:27:04,122 --> 00:27:07,000 You know, I'd say, like, "Can I go to the bathroom?" 389 00:27:07,083 --> 00:27:09,753 He would stop what he was doing, take me to the sink 390 00:27:09,836 --> 00:27:11,212 and sit me on the sink. 391 00:27:14,424 --> 00:27:18,553 And then nothing would happen for a while, then he'd take me back and… 392 00:27:18,637 --> 00:27:19,804 continue. 393 00:27:19,888 --> 00:27:21,556 And I would ask again, 394 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,975 "I have to go to the bathroom. Can you please stop?" 395 00:27:24,059 --> 00:27:26,019 And he would keep stopping. 396 00:27:26,102 --> 00:27:28,104 But, each time, it's like, "All right, 397 00:27:29,022 --> 00:27:30,482 I know you don't have to go." 398 00:27:32,567 --> 00:27:35,612 Something in the way that he would look at me that… 399 00:27:35,695 --> 00:27:38,657 It was almost like, "I'm sorry that I'm doing this to you. 400 00:27:41,868 --> 00:27:44,120 But I'm not sorry, 'cause I'm not going to stop." 401 00:27:48,249 --> 00:27:52,212 He put me in the bag again, to leave the place where we were. 402 00:27:53,046 --> 00:27:55,590 And after a while we stopped… 403 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,843 on the side of the road, 404 00:27:58,927 --> 00:28:01,596 and he said, "There's a gas station over there. 405 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,517 I want you to go in there and I want you to tell them to call 911 406 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,353 and have them get your family to come get you." 407 00:28:09,396 --> 00:28:11,022 Um, so… 408 00:28:12,649 --> 00:28:13,650 he let me go. 409 00:28:44,305 --> 00:28:49,269 At that time there was a series of child abductions, 410 00:28:49,352 --> 00:28:51,730 or attempted abductions, of children. 411 00:28:51,813 --> 00:28:54,899 In each case, the child was sexually assaulted. 412 00:28:55,483 --> 00:28:57,527 February 25th, in Montebello, 413 00:28:57,610 --> 00:29:01,489 a six-year-old girl was taken from a schoolyard, molested, then abandoned. 414 00:29:01,573 --> 00:29:03,450 March 11th in Monterey Park, 415 00:29:03,533 --> 00:29:05,785 a nine-year-old boy was snatched from his bed, 416 00:29:05,869 --> 00:29:07,495 molested, then abandoned. 417 00:29:07,579 --> 00:29:09,372 March 20th, in Glassell Park, 418 00:29:09,456 --> 00:29:11,708 an eight-year-old girl was taken from her bed, 419 00:29:11,791 --> 00:29:13,293 assaulted in a car, then abandoned. 420 00:29:17,213 --> 00:29:20,133 If kids get sexually assaulted, 421 00:29:20,216 --> 00:29:22,886 get kidnapped, or anything happens to kids, 422 00:29:22,969 --> 00:29:24,679 that's an entirely different unit. 423 00:29:24,763 --> 00:29:27,140 I was assigned to the sheriff's Homicide Bureau. 424 00:29:27,223 --> 00:29:28,767 I'm working one murder… 425 00:29:29,726 --> 00:29:33,605 the murder of Dayle Okazaki and the wounding of Maria Hernandez. 426 00:29:34,731 --> 00:29:38,902 And as part of your investigation, you look for broadcast. 427 00:29:38,985 --> 00:29:42,030 Everything else that's going on around in the area, what's happening. 428 00:29:43,740 --> 00:29:46,367 The first description I got was from Maria Hernandez. 429 00:29:46,451 --> 00:29:49,913 When you look at the reports that the children gave… 430 00:29:50,830 --> 00:29:53,208 their descriptions were very similar. 431 00:29:54,125 --> 00:30:00,298 They described him as being tall, thin, light-skinned Hispanic or Caucasian, 432 00:30:00,381 --> 00:30:01,883 disheveled hair, 433 00:30:01,966 --> 00:30:04,594 all black clothing, Members Only-type jacket, 434 00:30:04,677 --> 00:30:07,889 brown-stained gap teeth, and a pungent odor. 435 00:30:09,182 --> 00:30:11,684 In my opinion, we had a serial killer 436 00:30:11,768 --> 00:30:14,103 that was responsible for kidnapping children, 437 00:30:14,187 --> 00:30:18,650 girls, boys, raping adult women, killing adult women, killing males. 438 00:30:19,234 --> 00:30:21,069 Not many people believed that, 439 00:30:21,152 --> 00:30:24,823 because we've never encountered anybody like that… 440 00:30:25,740 --> 00:30:27,158 in criminal history. 441 00:30:33,164 --> 00:30:35,250 Gil asked me, "What do you think?" 442 00:30:35,333 --> 00:30:37,544 I said, "Is it possible? 443 00:30:37,627 --> 00:30:38,920 Absolutely. 444 00:30:39,003 --> 00:30:41,005 Is it probable? Mmm. 445 00:30:41,089 --> 00:30:43,132 It's never been documented before." 446 00:30:50,807 --> 00:30:52,141 On April 10th, 447 00:30:52,225 --> 00:30:56,062 I attended a meeting of local law enforcement from the Los Angeles area 448 00:30:56,145 --> 00:30:59,607 to exchange information between agencies on the abduction of children. 449 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,070 I was alleging that the child abductions were related to the homicides. 450 00:31:05,530 --> 00:31:07,949 And they were laughing at me. 451 00:31:10,994 --> 00:31:12,579 This just doesn't occur. 452 00:31:12,662 --> 00:31:15,415 You didn't have a guy going around violently killing people 453 00:31:15,498 --> 00:31:20,128 and then also kidnapping and assaulting young people 454 00:31:20,211 --> 00:31:21,838 and allowing them to live. 455 00:31:23,423 --> 00:31:24,716 It's unheard of. 456 00:31:25,758 --> 00:31:28,845 And these old-timers, they laughed it off. 457 00:31:28,928 --> 00:31:31,681 I went there openly and honestly. 458 00:31:33,141 --> 00:31:35,935 I didn't realize that they were going to reject… 459 00:31:36,895 --> 00:31:39,814 and scoff at my theory. 460 00:31:40,398 --> 00:31:44,319 Gil was very frustrated with the way he was being treated. 461 00:31:44,903 --> 00:31:48,281 I had an inside friend that worked Monterey Park that told me, 462 00:31:49,157 --> 00:31:52,827 "Every time you walk out of this office, every time you come in, walk out, 463 00:31:52,911 --> 00:31:55,622 they're motherfucking you to death, thinking you're a young punk 464 00:31:55,705 --> 00:31:57,582 trying to make a name for myself." 465 00:31:58,082 --> 00:32:02,837 I thought Gil was right in suggesting that it was one person. 466 00:32:03,546 --> 00:32:07,008 He had a good sense of this killer. 467 00:32:07,091 --> 00:32:11,512 So, I just encouraged him, as his friend, and said, "Go for it." 468 00:32:39,916 --> 00:32:44,379 I used to use East LA Patrol Station as kind of like my home base. 469 00:32:45,046 --> 00:32:47,382 Deputies there were well aware of what I was working. 470 00:32:48,341 --> 00:32:53,137 A deputy from the station approached me and said, "Some girls called the cops. 471 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,891 They said, "This guy was following us. Here's his plate number.'" 472 00:33:00,019 --> 00:33:02,981 The guy had long hair, was tall, light-skinned Mexican. 473 00:33:03,898 --> 00:33:06,442 I got a surveillance team and they're following him 474 00:33:06,526 --> 00:33:08,403 and he went to a restaurant. 475 00:33:08,486 --> 00:33:11,114 And they said he drove around the parking lot 476 00:33:11,781 --> 00:33:15,493 and just kept skulking around, and finally saw a lone female 477 00:33:15,576 --> 00:33:17,286 and he started following her. 478 00:33:17,370 --> 00:33:21,541 She realizes she's being followed, so she splits and she gets away from him. 479 00:33:22,750 --> 00:33:24,502 And they're still on him. 480 00:33:24,585 --> 00:33:26,379 They said, "This guy's a freak!" 481 00:33:27,088 --> 00:33:28,673 If he sees any female, 482 00:33:28,756 --> 00:33:32,427 didn't matter, guy went through all kinds of traffic just to get to 'em. 483 00:33:33,011 --> 00:33:36,264 And so, we take Arturo Robles into custody… 484 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:38,850 and I talked to him. 485 00:33:40,852 --> 00:33:42,395 And I said, 486 00:33:42,478 --> 00:33:45,356 "You're making U-turns because you wanna get to a woman?" 487 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,651 He said, "Yeah, I like women. Nothing wrong with that." 488 00:33:48,735 --> 00:33:51,320 I said, "Lady walks by you, 489 00:33:52,030 --> 00:33:53,906 then you ducked down behind the car." 490 00:33:53,990 --> 00:33:56,534 He says, "Oh, I didn't duck. My shoes were untied." 491 00:33:56,617 --> 00:33:59,078 He had an answer for everything. He was good. 492 00:33:59,162 --> 00:34:02,623 And so I put a six-pack, a mug show folder together. 493 00:34:02,707 --> 00:34:05,376 One of the people I showed it to was Maria Hernandez. 494 00:34:05,460 --> 00:34:08,504 And she said, "That could be him." 495 00:34:10,256 --> 00:34:11,382 And so, we go back, 496 00:34:11,966 --> 00:34:13,259 write a search warrant, 497 00:34:13,843 --> 00:34:15,053 go down to his house, 498 00:34:15,136 --> 00:34:19,348 we find all kinds of pictures out of magazines, 499 00:34:20,141 --> 00:34:21,809 photographs of women. 500 00:34:22,435 --> 00:34:25,438 Wearing a black Members Only jacket, he's got dark clothing. 501 00:34:26,022 --> 00:34:27,398 He's got ladies' underwear, 502 00:34:28,232 --> 00:34:30,318 and they're all sliced in the crotch. 503 00:34:35,156 --> 00:34:38,451 So, we had a lineup and nobody could pick him in the lineup. 504 00:34:38,534 --> 00:34:39,911 Not even Maria Hernandez. 505 00:34:41,037 --> 00:34:43,081 My partner looked at me and said, 506 00:34:43,956 --> 00:34:44,916 "He's a freak. 507 00:34:46,626 --> 00:34:48,252 But he's not your freak. 508 00:34:48,836 --> 00:34:50,046 He's not the guy." 509 00:35:56,946 --> 00:35:59,782 In the case of the Dois in Monterey Park, 510 00:35:59,866 --> 00:36:02,201 I was called to go to their home. 511 00:36:03,828 --> 00:36:06,706 So, when I arrived at the scene, 512 00:36:06,789 --> 00:36:08,457 it was really violent… 513 00:36:09,167 --> 00:36:10,626 and destructive. 514 00:36:14,505 --> 00:36:18,134 Authorities say that the man shot 66-year-old William Doi, 515 00:36:18,217 --> 00:36:20,720 then raped, beat and robbed his wife. 516 00:36:21,554 --> 00:36:26,350 Detectives say Doi saved his wife's life by calling 911 before he died. 517 00:36:29,854 --> 00:36:31,814 They found his wife badly beaten. 518 00:36:32,398 --> 00:36:35,818 On the thumb of her left hand, she was wearing thumbcuffs… 519 00:36:35,902 --> 00:36:37,570 Eighteen years I worked homicide, 520 00:36:37,653 --> 00:36:40,740 it's the only case I ever came across where thumbcuffs were used. 521 00:36:42,074 --> 00:36:43,951 A bizarre restraining device, 522 00:36:44,035 --> 00:36:46,996 the thumb of her right hand was bleeding profusely, 523 00:36:47,079 --> 00:36:49,457 indicating that in her attempt to free herself 524 00:36:49,540 --> 00:36:51,834 Mrs. Doi had ripped her thumbs apart. 525 00:36:54,503 --> 00:36:58,591 And that's basically the information we get from the Doi murder. 526 00:37:00,218 --> 00:37:01,761 We had… 527 00:37:02,595 --> 00:37:04,889 We had nothing. We had a whodunit. 528 00:37:07,350 --> 00:37:09,060 A friend from Montebello PD says, 529 00:37:09,143 --> 00:37:11,979 "I may have found a link that's gonna help you link these cases." 530 00:37:12,063 --> 00:37:16,943 And he showed me a picture of a footprint that was taken at a child abduction. 531 00:37:19,153 --> 00:37:22,323 She was eight years old and taken from her house, 532 00:37:22,406 --> 00:37:26,953 taken to a construction site and was sexually assaulted, 533 00:37:27,036 --> 00:37:28,496 and then set free. 534 00:37:28,579 --> 00:37:32,667 At that construction site, they had poured concrete that day 535 00:37:32,750 --> 00:37:35,419 and there was a shoe print in the concrete. 536 00:37:35,503 --> 00:37:38,756 And so I went down there. He showed them. I said, "Jesus Christ." 537 00:37:41,050 --> 00:37:43,094 And I recognized it immediately 538 00:37:43,177 --> 00:37:46,430 as the same or similar footprint that was lifted 539 00:37:46,514 --> 00:37:49,350 at the Zazzara homicide crime scene. 540 00:37:50,101 --> 00:37:51,769 We knew by Zazzara, 541 00:37:51,852 --> 00:37:54,230 we were looking for a pretty good-sized shoe. 542 00:37:54,313 --> 00:37:56,440 Somewhere between 11 and a 12. 543 00:37:56,524 --> 00:38:00,027 So, I called up my lieutenant and I said, "Okay, I found the link." 544 00:38:00,111 --> 00:38:01,404 And he says, "Gil, 545 00:38:02,154 --> 00:38:05,324 I've got the guys from LAPD in here that are handling that case, 546 00:38:05,408 --> 00:38:07,076 they're looking for a size ten. 547 00:38:07,159 --> 00:38:09,036 You're looking for a bigger shoe." 548 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:10,830 I said, "Put them on the phone." 549 00:38:11,664 --> 00:38:15,376 And he got on the phone. I said, "I wanna know how you determine your size, 550 00:38:15,459 --> 00:38:19,088 because I'm looking at a shoe that's a one-to-one with a ruler in it. 551 00:38:19,171 --> 00:38:22,383 It's 12 inches long. How do you get a size 10?" 552 00:38:22,466 --> 00:38:25,303 All they did, because the cement was kind of wet, 553 00:38:26,178 --> 00:38:28,764 was he put his shoe, he wore wingtips, 554 00:38:28,848 --> 00:38:30,141 size 10, 555 00:38:30,975 --> 00:38:34,562 and he stood on one foot and put his wingtip down over the shoe print, 556 00:38:34,645 --> 00:38:37,857 and he says, "My shoe covers it. Got to be a size 10." 557 00:38:38,441 --> 00:38:41,277 Says, "I obviously made a mistake, I got to change it. 558 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,279 I got to make it right. You're right." 559 00:38:44,655 --> 00:38:47,992 Now I've got a little bit of circumstantial evidence here. 560 00:38:49,243 --> 00:38:51,412 But that still wasn't enough. 561 00:39:06,427 --> 00:39:08,387 In May, 1985, 562 00:39:09,347 --> 00:39:11,098 Gil loses his partner. 563 00:39:11,182 --> 00:39:13,893 My partner goes off, eventually, to retire. 564 00:39:13,976 --> 00:39:15,728 So, we decided to hook up. 565 00:39:16,437 --> 00:39:18,564 Both get a drink at the bar and he says, 566 00:39:18,647 --> 00:39:21,192 "Gil, would you be interested in working with me?" 567 00:39:21,275 --> 00:39:23,527 "Too Cool Carrillo," you know, so I said, 568 00:39:23,611 --> 00:39:25,404 "Yeah, I'll give it some thought." 569 00:39:25,488 --> 00:39:27,823 I went back and sat next to my wife and said, 570 00:39:27,907 --> 00:39:30,910 "Frank Salerno just asked me to be his partner!" 571 00:39:30,993 --> 00:39:33,120 He goes, "Frank Salerno! 572 00:39:33,204 --> 00:39:35,831 He's the best up there!" 573 00:39:36,624 --> 00:39:38,000 Gil was young, 574 00:39:38,751 --> 00:39:39,794 enthusiastic, 575 00:39:39,877 --> 00:39:41,379 had a good reputation, 576 00:39:42,213 --> 00:39:43,631 and spoke Spanish, 577 00:39:43,714 --> 00:39:46,300 and I thought we'd make a good team. 578 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,472 Next day he comes up to me and he says,"I was in my cups that night." 579 00:39:52,098 --> 00:39:56,769 And I figure… Frank's letting me down easy. 580 00:39:57,561 --> 00:40:00,481 He says, "Yeah, but I'm not in my cups now. 581 00:40:00,564 --> 00:40:02,858 I'm asking you, are you still interested?" 582 00:40:03,609 --> 00:40:04,944 And I said, "Sure." 583 00:40:05,528 --> 00:40:08,072 He says, "Good, I went to the captain. It's gonna happen." 584 00:40:08,739 --> 00:40:10,032 I said, "Cool." 585 00:40:12,743 --> 00:40:14,286 Gil and I team up. 586 00:40:15,371 --> 00:40:16,914 We become partners. 587 00:40:18,082 --> 00:40:22,503 I was really surprised, in a way, when I first realized that Frank Salerno, 588 00:40:22,586 --> 00:40:24,547 the almost bigger-than-life… 589 00:40:25,673 --> 00:40:26,507 murder cop, 590 00:40:26,590 --> 00:40:27,758 and then, 591 00:40:27,842 --> 00:40:29,468 here's this guy, Gil Carrillo. 592 00:40:31,137 --> 00:40:33,055 I knew him from the streets. 593 00:40:33,139 --> 00:40:35,975 When he was a patrol deputy, he was known as El Cucuy, 594 00:40:36,058 --> 00:40:37,268 the boogeyman. 595 00:40:37,351 --> 00:40:40,438 He was notorious for eating sunflower seeds 596 00:40:40,521 --> 00:40:43,607 and spitting the shells out all over the place. 597 00:40:43,691 --> 00:40:46,569 Figuring out how he ends up working with Frank Salerno. 598 00:40:46,652 --> 00:40:48,696 They were an odd couple. 599 00:40:49,655 --> 00:40:52,908 Frank was all business, no smiles. 600 00:40:52,992 --> 00:40:57,496 And Gil was this big guy who was, you know, jovial. 601 00:40:57,580 --> 00:41:01,083 Gil was a welcome relief. 602 00:41:01,667 --> 00:41:04,336 He could've had anybody he wanted as a partner. 603 00:41:05,129 --> 00:41:07,798 And he asked me and I was tickled pink. I was flying. 604 00:41:25,274 --> 00:41:27,193 …three-quarters of a million people 605 00:41:27,276 --> 00:41:30,029 to beaches of Southern California to search for a cool-- 606 00:41:30,112 --> 00:41:32,615 One hundred degrees every day this week, 607 00:41:32,698 --> 00:41:36,076 and it's expected to stay that way right on through the 4th of July. 608 00:41:37,620 --> 00:41:38,871 No, it's gonna stay hot. 609 00:41:38,954 --> 00:41:42,875 Very hot. Even NBC's Johnny Carson was joking on last night's show about… 610 00:42:12,363 --> 00:42:16,116 Patty Elaine Higgins was killed in the city of Arcadia. 611 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,873 That's the first case Frank and I had had together. 612 00:42:23,457 --> 00:42:25,292 The killer was very enraged. 613 00:42:25,376 --> 00:42:30,005 He viciously cut her throat, then he stabbed her in that slash. 614 00:42:30,089 --> 00:42:32,800 Like, you know, here's some more. 615 00:42:32,883 --> 00:42:34,301 Uh… 616 00:42:34,385 --> 00:42:37,096 That's a very violent individual. 617 00:42:37,972 --> 00:42:39,473 Four days go by… 618 00:42:40,599 --> 00:42:46,146 …and Arcadia PD calls the bureau again, says, "We've got another murder." 619 00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:49,984 So, Gil and I roll out to the Cannon case, 620 00:42:50,901 --> 00:42:53,571 just a few miles from where Patty Higgins' case was. 621 00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:57,825 She had her throat slit, 622 00:42:57,908 --> 00:43:01,453 very similar to the way Patty Elaine Higgins' throat had been slit 623 00:43:01,537 --> 00:43:02,997 four days prior. 624 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,041 Then we get to the 5th of July, three days later. 625 00:43:13,048 --> 00:43:15,426 We get a call from Sierra Madre PD, 626 00:43:15,509 --> 00:43:18,429 which is not too far from Arcadia right there. 627 00:43:19,013 --> 00:43:23,517 In the front of the house there is a fabric mark and blood… 628 00:43:24,226 --> 00:43:25,728 on the windowsill, 629 00:43:25,811 --> 00:43:28,814 so we knew that the suspect was wearing, 630 00:43:28,897 --> 00:43:31,525 like, a gardener's glove or something like that. 631 00:43:31,609 --> 00:43:34,820 And we never find a single fingerprint 632 00:43:34,903 --> 00:43:36,697 in any of our crime scenes. 633 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:50,002 She was beaten with a tire iron at her parents' home in Sierra Madre. 634 00:43:57,718 --> 00:44:00,262 The room was ransacked. 635 00:44:00,971 --> 00:44:02,890 I mean, just ransacked. 636 00:44:09,355 --> 00:44:12,316 She says she remembers only going to bed. 637 00:44:13,734 --> 00:44:17,446 She woke up bloodied, beaten, her bedroom in a disarray. 638 00:44:18,113 --> 00:44:21,784 She ended up with 42 inches of lacerations and skull fractures. 639 00:44:23,911 --> 00:44:26,288 It's a difficult situation to… 640 00:44:31,335 --> 00:44:37,925 stand there and interview a 16-year-old that had just gone through this. 641 00:44:38,842 --> 00:44:40,052 And you wanna… 642 00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:44,807 You really want to get your hands on that individual. 643 00:44:50,020 --> 00:44:52,231 We didn't go in the room where this happened, 644 00:44:52,314 --> 00:44:54,024 we didn't want to contaminate it. 645 00:44:54,108 --> 00:44:55,943 We're waiting out in the living room 646 00:44:56,026 --> 00:44:57,861 when Gisele Lavigne, 647 00:44:57,945 --> 00:45:00,155 who was a criminalist from our crime lab, 648 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,410 she walks out, she's wearing a lab coat, her hair's in a bun, glasses on, 649 00:45:04,493 --> 00:45:06,036 and she says, "Hey, fellas, 650 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,123 found something, may be interesting. You oughta take a look." 651 00:45:09,206 --> 00:45:12,126 She's got a pink comforter in her hand, 652 00:45:12,209 --> 00:45:14,712 and she walks out to us and she opens it up 653 00:45:14,795 --> 00:45:17,297 and there's a shoe print in blood 654 00:45:17,881 --> 00:45:19,550 on that comforter. 655 00:45:19,633 --> 00:45:24,096 And that was the same footprint that was at the Zazzara murder, 656 00:45:24,179 --> 00:45:25,806 and it is the same footprint 657 00:45:25,889 --> 00:45:28,976 found at the northeast abduction of a 10-year-old little girl. 658 00:45:30,102 --> 00:45:33,731 That's a serial-- There's no doubt in my mind. It's the same guy. 659 00:45:34,815 --> 00:45:36,692 Gil and I just looked at each other. 660 00:45:36,775 --> 00:45:37,818 It's like, "Wow." 661 00:45:40,154 --> 00:45:42,698 The only thing I could say was, "Kiss my ass." 662 00:45:42,781 --> 00:45:45,576 And Frank said, "Yeah, kiss your ass." 663 00:45:45,659 --> 00:45:48,078 It gave me chills, like it's giving me right now. 664 00:45:49,705 --> 00:45:51,415 Right after we saw the footprint, 665 00:45:52,332 --> 00:45:55,461 Frank says, "Okay. Tell me everything you've got in your head." 666 00:45:56,420 --> 00:46:00,591 Okazaki, Tsai-Lian Yu, Zazzara, 667 00:46:01,675 --> 00:46:03,010 William and Emily Doi. 668 00:46:03,761 --> 00:46:08,223 We have Patty Elaine Higgins, we have Mary Cannon, and now Whitney Bennett. 669 00:46:09,308 --> 00:46:11,059 They weren't all my cases, 670 00:46:11,769 --> 00:46:13,896 but I studied them. I knew all the details, 671 00:46:13,979 --> 00:46:15,856 times, addresses, information, 672 00:46:15,939 --> 00:46:17,357 and I told him everything. 673 00:46:17,441 --> 00:46:20,360 Now it's in black and white in front of you. 674 00:46:20,444 --> 00:46:22,070 There's no denying it. 675 00:46:22,154 --> 00:46:23,822 Gil was right. 676 00:46:23,906 --> 00:46:27,284 The Bureau didn't think it was one man, but once Frank got on board, 677 00:46:27,367 --> 00:46:30,496 said, "Yes, it's one man," everybody listens. 678 00:46:31,747 --> 00:46:34,208 Picked up the phone called the captain right away. 679 00:46:34,917 --> 00:46:38,212 He said, "Okay, let's… let's go at it." 680 00:46:38,295 --> 00:46:41,590 And things started going fast and furious. 681 00:46:41,673 --> 00:46:44,343 We got a hell of a series going here. 682 00:46:44,426 --> 00:46:46,178 We got us a serial killer. 54729

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