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Hello and welcome to Let's Talk Business.
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My name is Steve
and I'll be your host today.
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And with us, we have Michael to Dorie,
who is realtor extraordinaire.
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Michael, welcome to the show.
Thank you. Thanks for having me.
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We're going to get started
by learning a bit about yourself.
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So tell us about your journey,
how you know you are also an immigrant.
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You came to Canada,
but different story slightly.
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So looking forward to hearing your journey
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and to how you ended up
with where you are today as a realtor.
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Thank you.
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So the Reader's Digest version of my story
is I came here as a refugee.
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I was escaping a communist country
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in Eastern Europe, and I came
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and stole away, arriving Halifax,
Nova Scotia, which is the East Coast.
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And that's where I started
my life in Canada.
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I went to university to study tourism,
hospitality, minor
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in business and psychology.
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And that's that was still my passion
to to service and help people.
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And I work in managing hotels.
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I work on a cruise ship.
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And that's what I've been doing
for the first ten years
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since I moved to Vancouver
about 22 years ago.
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Okay.
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Being a realtor,
it is a it is become a passion.
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When I moved to Vancouver,
I become an investor.
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I started buying properties
at a lower price than today.
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And then I grew from there and
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there
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was time to
make a change in my in my life, my career.
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And I wanted to take on. I came natural.
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I see a lot of transferable skills
from serving people in the hospitality
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service business to real estate
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is still a people business
and care about people's needs.
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And that's where I am today.
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Still 14 years in a residential state
in Vancouver, Greater Vancouver area.
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And you specialize in.
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I specialize in residential presale
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resale properties, no rentals
of particular to the Vancouver market.
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There's no agents to help you
with the rental.
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It's kind of, you know,
in terms of the property management side,
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you mean know
if someone is looking to to rent
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a condo or a house to do something,
they can find it on their own.
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Sure, there's no professional
who can look for them.
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So we're going to talk about real estate
from the immigrants
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perspective,
the journey to to purchase real estate.
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And we're going to first talk a little bit
about when an immigrant comes here.
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There's the option of is to rent.
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What is your sort of philosophy
on buying versus renting?
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So what do you
when you move to a new country?
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It depends.
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You know, if you join your family
or you come on your own or
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you come with the family,
I highly recommend to get to know the area
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and get to know the the lay of the land,
you know, have some roots in.
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And I recommend to rent first.
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Yes, there's a benefits of buying,
but there's many
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they want to make a very expensive
mistakes buying first
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their own property
because in real estate there's no refunds.
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Unfortunately, there's no written policy
and you are stuck with your property.
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So so, you know, rent in an area
where it's closer to your kids
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school or closer to work,
or maybe you want to open a business,
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kind of see where is the best
suitable place for your lifestyle.
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Maybe, you know, maybe you like mountains,
you like to be close to the North Shore.
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There is more hike
or you want to be close to the beach.
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You like to be in closer.
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In L.A., it is one neighborhood.
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It's, you know, it's a beach town,
California style.
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So renting is the first option.
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And then as you get into the market, then
you can make a better informed decision.
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So you've worked with immigrants,
I'm assuming, over the years as a realtor.
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Yeah, I did, Yeah.
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A few people who are Case in point,
I have somebody moved from Mexico
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and they renting a property
and now they're looking for a house.
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So let's talk about the process of buying
a house in, say, the Vancouver market.
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That's the one you're
the most familiar with.
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What's the first thing that I knew New
Immigrant would do to start the process?
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So the first product,
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the first step is start having a
conversation, maybe with one or two agents
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who specialize in the area
you want to be in
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and get a feel to that
the agent is there to serve your interest.
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He or she is there to for your benefit,
not for them to make a quick sale.
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So that's the first step. A second step.
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This professional should be able
to introduce you to a few mortgage broker
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or other institutions which can help
get a mortgage if that's required.
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So there's a different there's different
levels of financing for new immigrants.
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Now, Scotiabank has very good programs,
but there's some
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other financial institution
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get a mortgage
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and then start looking at properties
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and see which one resonates with you
and meet your needs and which one is good
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investment, a place to live,
but also it should be a good investment.
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A Vancouver has been every year
5 to 10% growth up to expect
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to be able to grow with the market
while you live in the property.
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So that's why I believe the process
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is good investment for yourself,
for your kids and for future.
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So Vancouver has a mix of available
residential.
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Can we talk a little bit
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about the different types of housing
that people could look at for sure.
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I mean. Cooper We are landlocked.
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We have mountains,
we have the ocean south of Vancouver.
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It is a cultural land,
so there's not much land to expand it.
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You don't build land anymore.
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So there's few choices.
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There's a property so you can,
you know, condos, detached tax properties,
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which is a duplex or a townhouse,
and there's attached property.
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So have your own picket fences
if you wish.
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So that all starts with the conversation
with your agent, with a mortgage broker
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to make sure you are in.
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If you can afford the property and
you're not extending yourself too much.
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So the immigrant has their banking
sorted out.
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They have a realtor that they've chosen
and they have a mortgage broker.
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What is the process around the mortgage?
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What are people needing to come up with
to start the process around a mortgage?
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Thank you.
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That's a very good question. I'm
not a mortgage broker.
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I don't give financial
and mortgage advice.
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But that being said, the information
I know
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working with many immigrants
and other clients, there's a threshold.
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The larger amount you put, the better.
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So at 20%, it's preferred
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you can put less than that wherever,
however, there's a higher payment.
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So ideally to 20% or more,
the more money you put, the less questions
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the bank bank asks the easy
approval process.
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Okay, So so they've got an idea
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of what their budget is for,
what they can afford.
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So you step in and you're the realtor
that they've decided to work with.
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What is your process in the very beginning
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when you're first
starting that relationship?
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So I like to see myself as a
as a pilot of this plane
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where you want to get somewhere
for me to be.
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I am kind of the guide.
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There's a mortgage broker involved.
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There's a inspector on the property.
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There's a different information
a buyer needs to know about.
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Empty home taxes.
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And your benefits as a first time
buyer is like one stop shop.
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So that's kind of my unique approach
coming from Concierge.
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I was with all the service where people do
you get all the answers one at once,
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but the next step is find
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the right property, make it,
make an offer, have an inspection.
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The bank need to review the property
to make sure they're satisfied.
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And then the I make sure that the process
is smooth to transact the property
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from previous owner to you and to move in
and and and that's it.
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So Vancouver, I mean, in my opinion,
our number one industry is real estate.
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It seems it has been for a long time.
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And as a result, a lot of realtors
that are in the in the business.
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What is your
what do you feel are the differences
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between a really good realtor
and what to look for versus somebody
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that maybe not as good
at what they do as a realtor?
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Thank you. I do this.
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I'm in this profession for 40 years
because I love to help people.
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It's about the clients not knowing me.
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In many.
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I travel many parts of the world and I was
I remember I was in New York and
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the driver, he gave me his business card
because he was also a realtor.
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So I'm sure it is the case in Vancouver
Market,
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there's 14,000 realtors
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right now, and there's a statistic
that 20% do most of the business.
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The other agents are part time.
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So choosing realtor,
it is the good decision you can make as a
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as a as a buyer,
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somebody who has your own interests.
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You can fill that from the answer.
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If you get
if you feel like you're being pushed
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and it's your own internal clock judgment
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to know if that person
is really helping you
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or just want to make a sale
and move on to the next person.
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So my unique advantage, no, no pressure.
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Buy the
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right
property, give the right information.
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So you're working,
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working with the immigrant
and who wants to buy a home.
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Is there something that you're looking for
in that client?
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Like what are that like
from a psychological standpoint?
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Some things that you take into account
with how you're going to work
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with this person?
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Real estate is like a matchmaking, so
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my job is to match the property
in the direct client.
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So and often
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not often, but it does happen that
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they are know when I go to work together
some and that's why we have a discovery
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meeting at the beginning to let them know
they need to explain the process.
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And I say no to clients.
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Like, you know, I don't think where
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some people work at different levels
and work on different level.
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So if we are good, it has to be good.
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We're not not getting married.
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We don't get a marriage license,
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but we are going to be married
for free for four months
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until we find the right property.
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So the deposit positive energy
needs to be there
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and that's all I'm looking for.
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So what are some of the deal breakers
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for you
when you're looking to work with a client?
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What are some of the red flags?
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Somebody who knows it all
and if they Google and they're telling me
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what they found on Google, which are
sometimes not useful information,
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but those are some of the things which,
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you know, if there's certain there's
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a lot of religious taste of people
need to have money in Canada,
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the government make sure that the FINTRAC
and the different protocols that
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so if somebody you know
this kind of shady business and as I say
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I feel something in the background
is not right I don't want to get out.
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I do everything by the book. So
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I just look
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to have
a good a good connection in that. So.
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So you've taken their criteria,
you got us.
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You have a sense of what part of town
they're interested in.
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Yeah. What's your process from there?
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What do you do to take it to that
next step
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and next step we look at the properties
which they're Mr.
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Criteria and the budget.
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We look at,
you know, four or five properties
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and they make an offer.
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We negotiate and negotiate
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the best deal possible, the best term
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and that's
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is pretty simple, maybe different
than other other countries.
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But there's a, there's a process
and we make an offer on paper
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to the seller, accept or counters
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if conditions of inspections or financing.
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You have time to think about it.
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There's a decision
period of three days. You can walk away
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and if you're happy, you move forward
and that's it.
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Provide deposit.
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So that's why it's my advantage.
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Just no pressure
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selling and make sure you're happy with
the process and what you're getting into.
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So Vancouver is happening over time.
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These unique scenarios
where you have a hot market
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and you've got people multiple bids,
like what is your sort of strategy
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when you're dealing with a situation
like that?
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Well,
it depends on the people objective, like
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why are they buying what way,
why they need to get into a bidding war.
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So yeah, there was there's a 2016 to 2020.
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There was a market where, you know,
there were ten offers
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for one property
and that's because of low interest rates.
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So the different different reasons,
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my, my take is just wait.
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You don't need to buy, you know,
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just wait for the next six months
or you year a year
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and you don't need to buy in Vancouver
proper.
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You can move outside of part of Vancouver
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where maybe make an investment
for a newly new development,
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and that's will grow over time
by the time it's finished.
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So that's
comes from our initial discussion
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to find out the objective of the client
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and how it can give you the best advice
and then make the final decision
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whether you want to move or not,
or they want to go into a bidding war
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which no fun for anybody for sure.
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It's very stressful.
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So to support that
or to try and curb that,
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I guess the government has introduced
various
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different things over the years,
one of them being the anti homes tax.
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Could you explain what that
is and how that works? So
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this part of the
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when you having an initial introduction
process, I explained to clients that
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if this is an investment property
where you plan to live in it,
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the new legislation
where you're not allowed to have Airbnb
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in the property anymore,
so you need to be rented for a longer
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period, a year or more and
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the government try to
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in this end
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devise investors
which, you know, rent properties
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for short term and we need more inventory
for poor people to live in long term.
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There's a there's a great need for,
you know,
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the World Cup is 2026 coming to Vancouver
2025.
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The awards
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some and Hollywood
type awards is being held in Vancouver.
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So there's big events
which need lots of housing, lots of rooms.
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So this intense
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incentive from government
won't do it at the investor.
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Think of
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everyone as a whole and have this proper
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and for long term,
not just like one day or one week.
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So this has been the recent thing.
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The no Airbnbs,
which I'm sure has negatively
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impact on a number of investors. Right.
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Who who bought these properties
with the intention to do Airbnb
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you know sudden they can't Has that
resulted in any opportunities in terms of
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more product on the market do you think,
or like how's that going to fall out?
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So that's come to effect in May this year.
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And my personal opinion
there should be a balance right?
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Investors should not be caught out
from this opportunities,
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but at the same time shifting
for everybody as a greater as a whole.
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So how is this impacted?
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It's still to be remain to be seen.
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If you investors are
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deciding to sell,
they don't want to to hold the properties.
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But later in the year we see what
the effect of that perhaps in later July.
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I have a better answer.
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There's been a real push, really.
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I think for the first time
in a really long time
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of all three levels of government
really talking housing
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because Vancouver has the problem
that we have enough homes
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and that's what's led to things
like the Airbnb decision.
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It just we need local housing. Yeah.
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So the opportunity from an investment
standpoint is also there for an immigrant,
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assuming that they are comfortable
with long term rentals.
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Like if they're not going to live it
themselves, they can buy a property
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to has an investment as long as they are
happy to rent it out to long term people.
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Yeah.
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What does that look like in your opinion,
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as a strategy for for immigrants?
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So I was an investor myself
and I'm still bought
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to preserve properties
and I don't have a long term.
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So if you're
you want to have an investment property,
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I look at the presale option.
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There's a lot
of new developments coming up
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being built and
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there's many, many opportunities
in this property
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community value by definition,
probably three or four years.
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So let's talk about a sale process,
explain what it is,
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who's doing it, who's offering it,
and the sort of time frame for payment.
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Okay, So this is a different video.
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It's required lots of information, but
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the Reader's Digest version is that you
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you buy a property based on a blueprint
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so that a developer is putting out
this is what is going to be like.
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This is the square footage getting
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the layout of floorplan level
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and they require a percentage
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about 15 20% down payment spread over
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two years.
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So by the time the building is built,
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that's when you come up through the
remainder of purchase price
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and the more
property are being built close to transit.
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So next to Skytrain or to in England
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and then near transportation,
because transportation is a it's a it's a
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big thing in Vancouver
is not meant for 3 million plus people,
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but buying postal transportation.
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And that's what people want to rent and
that's the best advice to where to buy.
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So the further you go,
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there's a town called Surrey or the Fraser
Valley area, the cheaper it gets,
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probably for maybe 500,000,
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but some people have it closer.
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So there's other opportunities.
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So over a million or $2 million or so.
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So and there's opportunities
across Canada.
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You know, you've got places like Whistler
resort opportunities as well,
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where immigrants
could look as an investment
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not only in Vancouver area,
but you can invest in a resort town
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or growing town
where, you know, for example,
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Prince Rupert would look up in the
map, the map in northern B.C.
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there's a there's a big industry there
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with the ships transporting gas to China.
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So there's opportunities
for people doing work there.
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So that you can pay there.
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That's and that's kind of discussion
where people can look into
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if Vancouver is the home base is in, it's
very of I know, 20 to 40 kilometers.
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There's great opportunities.
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And personally, I grew the real estate
for the past 15 years.
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I bought my first property for 195,000.
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I sold it double four years later
and about three more.
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And so far.
So it's become like a snowball.
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So what is your outlook for the Vancouver
real estate market?
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I think cause
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definitely you have to be cautious.
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You know, said there's a saying,
you know, jump in
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and just put one foot in water first
and then make an informed decision, not.
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RUSH.
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So and that's that's
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where I come in to to give people peace,
to make sure they're happy.
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And when they're happy with me,
they can tell their friends.
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And that's how I operate. Great.
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I think this is for many Google reviews
and many people are happy with the service
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and focus on quality and quantity
and how can people reach you?
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That's my website, the log in.
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Please check out the blog
for amazing information.
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I have a YouTube channel as well
and I'd be happy to answer any question.
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No strings attached.
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Wonderful. Michael to Aurecon.
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Thank you, Michael, for being a guest.
So let's talk business for having me.
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Thank you for tuning in for some excellent
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Thank you.
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