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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:59,494 --> 00:01:01,409 [BIRDS CHIRPING] 4 00:01:02,671 --> 00:01:05,108 LARRY: Venice is, do what you wanna do, 5 00:01:06,457 --> 00:01:07,676 be who you wanna be. 6 00:01:15,814 --> 00:01:18,078 JIMMY: Roller dancing is my escape. 7 00:01:19,122 --> 00:01:20,645 It's a part of me. 8 00:01:26,825 --> 00:01:29,089 SALLY: When we skate, 9 00:01:29,132 --> 00:01:31,091 it's the only time when you're free. 10 00:01:33,223 --> 00:01:35,443 DUVAL: Roller skating made Venice Beach what it is today. 11 00:01:37,184 --> 00:01:39,273 A lot of people don't wanna give us that credit. 12 00:01:43,712 --> 00:01:45,366 [FUNK MUSIC PLAYING] 13 00:01:48,064 --> 00:01:49,413 Welcome to Venice, California. 14 00:01:49,457 --> 00:01:50,327 We're live at the beach. 15 00:01:54,766 --> 00:01:57,073 LARRY: When we started skating, 16 00:01:57,117 --> 00:02:00,990 we would have literally rolls and rolls of people just watching us skate. 17 00:02:03,035 --> 00:02:05,299 It was something nobody had ever seen before. 18 00:02:05,342 --> 00:02:06,517 They've seen people roller skate, 19 00:02:06,561 --> 00:02:08,040 but they didn't see anybody dance. 20 00:02:17,049 --> 00:02:18,312 We lived and breathed skating. 21 00:02:18,355 --> 00:02:20,488 I mean, we slept with our skates on. 22 00:02:27,364 --> 00:02:28,539 When I was just a little kid, 23 00:02:28,583 --> 00:02:30,237 skating around with all these adults 24 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,370 and half-naked women, and it worked for me. 25 00:02:33,414 --> 00:02:35,198 They called us "street skaters". 26 00:02:35,242 --> 00:02:37,200 Meaning that we don't have any formal training. 27 00:02:37,244 --> 00:02:39,159 Our practice is performing. 28 00:02:45,991 --> 00:02:47,515 A lot of the technical skaters 29 00:02:47,558 --> 00:02:49,038 that do, like, the competitions, 30 00:02:49,081 --> 00:02:51,475 they have to do the axels and the lutzes. 31 00:02:51,519 --> 00:02:53,390 Their moves are already pre-programmed, 32 00:02:53,434 --> 00:02:55,044 and I don't like pre-programmed. 33 00:02:55,087 --> 00:02:57,307 I like to have my shit organic and natural. 34 00:03:01,616 --> 00:03:03,531 We would get out there, like, 12:00 in the daytime. 35 00:03:03,574 --> 00:03:05,837 We'd leave at, like, 8:00 at night. 36 00:03:05,881 --> 00:03:09,493 I used to get cramps at like 2:00 or 3:00 in the morning from skating. 37 00:03:13,062 --> 00:03:16,587 SALLY: You just had the most wonderful black culture 38 00:03:16,631 --> 00:03:17,806 in all these different forms. 39 00:03:26,249 --> 00:03:27,729 Everybody was there to skate. 40 00:03:27,772 --> 00:03:30,166 Everybody was there to enjoy the music. 41 00:03:30,210 --> 00:03:32,212 It was a black beach 42 00:03:32,255 --> 00:03:35,998 which, you know, in a city, that never existed anywhere else. 43 00:03:36,041 --> 00:03:40,394 I just loved it because it's where I felt like I belonged. 44 00:03:40,437 --> 00:03:43,048 I couldn't really relate to a white beach scene. 45 00:03:43,092 --> 00:03:45,877 I was about black urban culture, 46 00:03:45,921 --> 00:03:50,012 but for once, not being confined to the ghetto. 47 00:03:50,055 --> 00:03:51,840 We get to enjoy the beach. 48 00:03:51,883 --> 00:03:54,799 We get to be in the sunshine, having fun. 49 00:03:54,843 --> 00:03:57,541 It was pretty much black people from the inner city 50 00:03:57,585 --> 00:03:59,151 who've come out to the beach. 51 00:03:59,195 --> 00:04:02,459 And that's what was great about Venice Beach. 52 00:04:02,503 --> 00:04:04,679 LARRY: There was a lot of songs that we skated to, 53 00:04:04,722 --> 00:04:07,638 but our theme song was Prince's songKiss. 54 00:04:08,422 --> 00:04:10,467 [ KISSPLAYING] 55 00:04:21,086 --> 00:04:22,610 [FUNK MUSIC PLAYING] 56 00:04:24,568 --> 00:04:26,309 JIMMY: It was just like a party. 57 00:04:26,353 --> 00:04:29,312 The more people that were there, the more hyped we got. 58 00:04:29,356 --> 00:04:31,140 [CROWD CHEERING] 59 00:04:32,663 --> 00:04:33,925 People were going, 60 00:04:33,969 --> 00:04:35,449 "Wow, they're not just skating, 61 00:04:35,492 --> 00:04:37,929 "their choreography is incredible. 62 00:04:37,973 --> 00:04:39,583 "They're all in sync." 63 00:04:43,587 --> 00:04:46,808 I really got a kick out of performing. 64 00:04:46,851 --> 00:04:49,811 I hadn't been around this kind of atmosphere. 65 00:04:49,854 --> 00:04:51,552 I hadn't had that kind of attention. 66 00:04:52,117 --> 00:04:54,163 [FUNK MUSIC PLAYING] 67 00:05:07,742 --> 00:05:10,397 DUVAL: When we got 300,000 to 400,000 people on a weekend 68 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,224 coming down to Venice from all over the world, 69 00:05:12,268 --> 00:05:14,183 we turned out to be Venice Beach celebrities. 70 00:05:17,012 --> 00:05:19,362 MAD: All of a sudden, this phenomenon starts 71 00:05:19,406 --> 00:05:21,016 picking up real fast. 72 00:05:26,587 --> 00:05:28,240 LARRY: All of a sudden, Venice Beach was on the map. 73 00:05:31,592 --> 00:05:33,202 We definitely were rock stars down there. 74 00:05:36,031 --> 00:05:38,599 TERRELL: Our crowds, because of the music, because of the people, 75 00:05:38,642 --> 00:05:39,991 they would literally sit there for hours. 76 00:05:42,472 --> 00:05:44,126 But we're not asking you to put money in a bucket. 77 00:05:44,169 --> 00:05:46,955 Maybe your phone number, but not money. 78 00:05:46,998 --> 00:05:49,000 SALLY: The girls out here were practically groupies 79 00:05:49,044 --> 00:05:50,654 that'd be like falling over themselves 80 00:05:50,698 --> 00:05:52,090 wanting to get to the guys. [CHUCKLES] 81 00:05:52,134 --> 00:05:54,092 [CROWD CHEERING] 82 00:05:54,136 --> 00:05:56,007 About 10:00 to 5:00. 83 00:05:56,051 --> 00:05:57,661 That's the best time. 84 00:05:57,705 --> 00:05:58,532 [CHUCKLES] 85 00:06:01,012 --> 00:06:03,232 DUVAL: The ambiance out there, the applause, 86 00:06:03,275 --> 00:06:05,147 you know, the cheering out there. 87 00:06:06,278 --> 00:06:08,629 The more we got, the better we became. 88 00:06:10,021 --> 00:06:11,893 [CROWD CHEERING] 89 00:06:14,025 --> 00:06:15,766 Everybody from around the world 90 00:06:15,810 --> 00:06:17,594 come out there to see us. 91 00:06:19,030 --> 00:06:20,945 Oh, we were rock gods. 92 00:06:23,774 --> 00:06:25,472 We were the ones on Mt. Olympus. 93 00:06:46,754 --> 00:06:48,669 TERRELL: Back in the day for blacks, 94 00:06:48,712 --> 00:06:51,236 there were only certain places that you could live. 95 00:06:53,630 --> 00:06:56,067 South Central, Watts, and so on. 96 00:06:56,111 --> 00:06:57,634 It was very segregated. 97 00:06:57,678 --> 00:07:00,724 So, this was the only beach area 98 00:07:00,768 --> 00:07:03,684 where blacks and Mexicans were allowed to live. 99 00:07:09,864 --> 00:07:11,822 LARRY: And this is the place, Oakwood, 100 00:07:11,866 --> 00:07:13,607 that's where it all started out for me. 101 00:07:13,650 --> 00:07:14,608 My roots. 102 00:07:16,784 --> 00:07:19,526 Oakwood was different when I was a kid. 103 00:07:19,569 --> 00:07:20,657 It's full of black families. 104 00:07:24,748 --> 00:07:26,837 Black people have lived there since 1905. 105 00:07:31,799 --> 00:07:35,106 In fact, the canals of Venice were built by black people. 106 00:07:40,024 --> 00:07:43,854 TERRELL: No one really wanted to be in Venice. 107 00:07:43,898 --> 00:07:45,465 It was the slum by the sea. 108 00:07:49,381 --> 00:07:50,992 [FUNK MUSIC PLAYING] 109 00:07:51,035 --> 00:07:54,517 So, Venice, even though it was born out of segregation, 110 00:07:54,561 --> 00:07:57,738 it would've never had the culture or the flavor that it has now. 111 00:07:57,781 --> 00:08:00,523 It's an artist place where everybody can be free to do what they want. 112 00:08:00,567 --> 00:08:03,004 It made Venice into a Beatnik, 113 00:08:03,047 --> 00:08:05,006 kind of a Bohemian type of place. 114 00:08:07,878 --> 00:08:10,098 It was the wild wild west. 115 00:08:10,141 --> 00:08:12,056 You can be yourself, you can be crazy. 116 00:08:12,100 --> 00:08:13,231 Whoo! 117 00:08:20,587 --> 00:08:22,502 We got our own area. 118 00:08:22,545 --> 00:08:25,287 It was this winding snake-like place, 119 00:08:25,330 --> 00:08:28,551 but the concrete was smooth, it was level. 120 00:08:28,595 --> 00:08:31,032 We could blast the music. 121 00:08:31,075 --> 00:08:33,513 People could watch us from both sides. 122 00:08:33,556 --> 00:08:35,427 And that became disco alley. 123 00:08:36,603 --> 00:08:37,908 [CROWD APPLAUDING] 124 00:08:39,780 --> 00:08:41,738 JIMMY: OG means you're original. 125 00:08:41,782 --> 00:08:43,392 These are the people that started this, 126 00:08:43,435 --> 00:08:44,915 the first ones that made it popular. 127 00:08:45,742 --> 00:08:47,831 OG really means "Original Gangster". 128 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,356 Me, Sally, Larry, 129 00:08:52,009 --> 00:08:54,795 Duval, Terrell, Mad. 130 00:08:54,838 --> 00:08:56,753 We were a family. 131 00:08:56,797 --> 00:08:58,929 TERRELL: Everybody has their own flow, their own style. 132 00:08:58,973 --> 00:09:00,148 And that's what makes it hot. 133 00:09:01,018 --> 00:09:02,585 [FUNK MUSIC PLAYING] 134 00:09:08,025 --> 00:09:10,941 My style is kind of a fusion of hip-hop, 135 00:09:10,985 --> 00:09:12,464 skating and break dancing. 136 00:09:13,988 --> 00:09:16,425 LARRY: Terrell's style, arrogant, show-off, 137 00:09:16,468 --> 00:09:18,514 very good. 138 00:09:18,558 --> 00:09:21,952 JIMMY: Terrell was somebody that was always an entertainer. 139 00:09:23,606 --> 00:09:25,608 He's a great dancer. 140 00:09:25,652 --> 00:09:27,349 He feeds off of attention. 141 00:09:28,176 --> 00:09:30,091 You're smooth with him. 142 00:09:30,134 --> 00:09:31,875 It'd feel like a part of your body, period. 143 00:09:33,355 --> 00:09:36,184 JIMMY: Larry's style is a lot of movement with the skates 144 00:09:36,227 --> 00:09:39,404 with crisscrossing of the wheels and really fancy feet. 145 00:09:41,276 --> 00:09:43,626 TERRELL: Larry is the Swiss pocket knife of skaters. 146 00:09:45,628 --> 00:09:46,977 He can do a little bit of everything. 147 00:09:49,676 --> 00:09:52,200 You can be so graceful, and it's so much fun, 148 00:09:52,243 --> 00:09:53,593 and it's just like sex on wheels. 149 00:09:54,376 --> 00:09:55,420 It's freedom. 150 00:09:57,205 --> 00:09:58,815 JIMMY: Sally was smooth. 151 00:09:58,859 --> 00:10:01,035 She glides on her skates. 152 00:10:01,078 --> 00:10:02,558 And she would get into her own world. 153 00:10:02,602 --> 00:10:04,647 You would see her eyes would shut. 154 00:10:04,691 --> 00:10:06,867 You would be like, "She's gone." 155 00:10:06,910 --> 00:10:09,173 TERRELL: She's got the long legs, 156 00:10:09,217 --> 00:10:10,653 booty sticking out. 157 00:10:10,697 --> 00:10:12,829 She's graceful, elegant. 158 00:10:12,873 --> 00:10:14,788 She's the Cadillac of us skaters. 159 00:10:16,703 --> 00:10:17,965 My style, they called me "buck wild", 160 00:10:20,054 --> 00:10:22,012 'cause I get really crazy on the skates. 161 00:10:22,056 --> 00:10:23,448 I'm almost gonna fall, 162 00:10:23,492 --> 00:10:25,450 and if I do fall, 163 00:10:25,494 --> 00:10:28,192 I started learning how to actually make that into a move. 164 00:10:31,195 --> 00:10:33,981 TERRELL: Jimmy's style is what we call "organized confusion". 165 00:10:38,115 --> 00:10:40,030 He's the perfect skating tornado. 166 00:10:42,163 --> 00:10:44,644 'Cause I do the crazy legs like no other. 167 00:10:47,995 --> 00:10:49,474 I put my heart and soul into it. 168 00:10:51,302 --> 00:10:54,262 JIMMY: Duval's style is out there. 169 00:10:54,958 --> 00:10:56,612 He was different. 170 00:10:57,961 --> 00:10:59,571 TERRELL: And he wore the big baggy pants 171 00:10:59,615 --> 00:11:01,008 with the cowboy boots. 172 00:11:03,358 --> 00:11:08,058 The Superman logo and all his cartoon characters that he drew. 173 00:11:08,102 --> 00:11:10,104 LARRY: He brought a free spirit there. 174 00:11:10,147 --> 00:11:12,497 Always had that crazy smile on his face. 175 00:11:12,541 --> 00:11:16,893 DUVAL: Uh, I came up with what was called the Pinocchio Theory. 176 00:11:16,937 --> 00:11:20,157 I have no strings to hold me up, 177 00:11:20,201 --> 00:11:22,594 to hold me back or to hold me down. 178 00:11:22,638 --> 00:11:26,076 That particular move became now known as "The Matrix". 179 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,862 I wanna say something to the Wachowskis, "Where's my royalty check?" 180 00:11:28,905 --> 00:11:31,342 because I did that move before the movie even came out. 181 00:11:31,386 --> 00:11:32,256 [CHUCKLES] 182 00:11:36,173 --> 00:11:38,523 LARRY: Who helped to take the line dance off 183 00:11:38,567 --> 00:11:39,960 was the guy known as Mad. 184 00:11:42,005 --> 00:11:43,311 TERRELL: Mad was our leader. 185 00:11:45,487 --> 00:11:47,097 He's like the godfather of skating. 186 00:11:48,620 --> 00:11:50,535 SALLY: He was the king of the skate world. 187 00:11:55,018 --> 00:11:57,151 When I first saw Mad, I couldn't stand him, 188 00:11:57,194 --> 00:11:59,022 you know, because of the look. 189 00:11:59,066 --> 00:12:01,546 You know, that's just like... It's his look, you know. 190 00:12:01,590 --> 00:12:03,070 JIMMY: Mad was strength. 191 00:12:03,113 --> 00:12:04,724 He was chiseled. 192 00:12:04,767 --> 00:12:06,334 Six-pack. 193 00:12:06,377 --> 00:12:07,465 He looked like a cobra. 194 00:12:08,945 --> 00:12:11,339 SALLY: He's what Mr. T wants to be. 195 00:12:11,382 --> 00:12:14,734 He's what Arnold Schwarzenegger wishes he was. 196 00:12:15,647 --> 00:12:18,172 They're not it, he's it. 197 00:12:18,215 --> 00:12:20,783 And he kinda, you know, at first, was like, "Who are you?" you know, 198 00:12:20,827 --> 00:12:22,176 "What's your name?" 199 00:12:22,219 --> 00:12:24,004 And I was like, "I'm Jimmy." and he's like, 200 00:12:24,047 --> 00:12:25,701 "Stay out the way." You know? 201 00:12:27,964 --> 00:12:30,793 When I would watch him and see what he could do, 202 00:12:30,837 --> 00:12:32,186 I was like, "Hmm, dude got some skills." 203 00:12:33,491 --> 00:12:35,058 [RETRO DANCE MUSIC PLAYING] 204 00:12:40,977 --> 00:12:42,936 TERRELL: Mad, at his best, 205 00:12:42,979 --> 00:12:45,460 is like a bull in a China shop, 206 00:12:45,503 --> 00:12:47,854 except for he doesn't knock down any of the China. 207 00:12:47,897 --> 00:12:50,117 SALLY: It's poetry in motion. 208 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:54,251 I mean, the way he moved, it's just like incredible liquid poetry. 209 00:12:54,295 --> 00:12:56,253 JIMMY: I was in awe of Mad. 210 00:12:56,297 --> 00:12:58,168 It looked effortless when you saw him skate. 211 00:12:59,822 --> 00:13:01,389 [FUNK MUSIC PLAYING] 212 00:13:24,281 --> 00:13:26,240 JIMMY: Mad was a great mentor to us 213 00:13:26,283 --> 00:13:27,981 because he made sure you got it right. 214 00:13:28,024 --> 00:13:30,157 "Do it again. No, do it again. 215 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:31,854 "That ain't right. Do it again." 216 00:13:31,898 --> 00:13:34,596 He motivated you to be good. 217 00:13:36,206 --> 00:13:37,860 TERRELL: Every time I would come out, 218 00:13:37,904 --> 00:13:39,993 "You brought your little ass back out here again? 219 00:13:40,036 --> 00:13:42,256 "Come on, you might as well learn how to skate with feet this big. 220 00:13:42,299 --> 00:13:43,474 "Come on over here." 221 00:13:43,518 --> 00:13:44,954 So he would tease me about that. 222 00:13:46,651 --> 00:13:48,566 He would show me a move, 223 00:13:48,610 --> 00:13:49,916 then he grabbed all over my shirt and have me like... 224 00:13:49,959 --> 00:13:51,395 And I'm like, "Get off." 225 00:13:51,439 --> 00:13:53,484 My mom would be like, 226 00:13:53,528 --> 00:13:55,878 "Why are your shirts always so wrinkled in the shoulder when you get home?" 227 00:13:55,922 --> 00:13:58,446 I'm like, "Oh, that's Mad." "Who is this Mad?" 228 00:13:58,489 --> 00:14:01,101 "He's like my big brother, I guess." kind of thing. 229 00:14:02,842 --> 00:14:04,495 LARRY: Everybody idolized him. I did. 230 00:14:06,584 --> 00:14:09,892 Everybody tried to mimic Mad's style. 231 00:14:14,723 --> 00:14:16,943 The boombox we had out there that Mad built, 232 00:14:16,986 --> 00:14:18,422 it was our lifeline. 233 00:14:18,466 --> 00:14:20,250 It was the beat of Venice Beach. 234 00:14:24,602 --> 00:14:26,735 TERRELL: Mad was the one that called out the line-up, 235 00:14:26,778 --> 00:14:28,693 so what he said, we did. 236 00:14:44,318 --> 00:14:46,537 It was just steps and you just learn the step. 237 00:14:46,581 --> 00:14:49,801 Or you don't have to, but, I mean, then you'd be off by yourself. 238 00:14:49,845 --> 00:14:52,717 If you wanna be part of the group, you had to learn the step. 239 00:14:52,761 --> 00:14:54,937 He'd be at a party one night, dancing, like, 240 00:14:54,981 --> 00:14:56,460 "Wait a minute. I'mma put that in a routine." 241 00:14:56,504 --> 00:14:57,635 and then, boom. 242 00:14:57,679 --> 00:14:59,376 [RADIO SCREECHING] 243 00:15:03,772 --> 00:15:05,687 [FUNK MUSIC PLAYING] 244 00:15:07,167 --> 00:15:09,560 LARRY: Mad is a kid at heart, as well as I. 245 00:15:09,604 --> 00:15:11,475 We watched cartoons. 246 00:15:11,519 --> 00:15:13,956 So Mad basically took certain steps 247 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,610 and named them after cartoons. 248 00:15:15,653 --> 00:15:17,177 They were basically the Transformers. 249 00:15:21,790 --> 00:15:25,925 It was like, Omega Supreme, Optimus Prime, Dinobots. 250 00:15:25,968 --> 00:15:27,143 That was Mad's thing. 251 00:15:33,062 --> 00:15:34,629 JIMMY: Mad was everything. 252 00:15:36,326 --> 00:15:38,894 SALLY: I don't know. I think of him like a lion. 253 00:15:41,592 --> 00:15:43,116 Head of the pride. 254 00:15:44,987 --> 00:15:46,902 JIMMY: So when Mad stopped skating, 255 00:15:46,946 --> 00:15:48,164 we lost a leader. 256 00:15:49,383 --> 00:15:51,385 He's more into his motorcycles now. 257 00:15:51,428 --> 00:15:53,169 He traded eight wheels in for two. 258 00:15:55,476 --> 00:15:56,999 LARRY: It just changed. 259 00:15:57,043 --> 00:15:59,088 Everything changed down there. 260 00:15:59,132 --> 00:16:00,611 They took my beats away from me. 261 00:16:02,222 --> 00:16:03,963 SALLY: We didn't see this coming. 262 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,576 MAD: The roller dream out there was taken away. 263 00:16:10,230 --> 00:16:12,188 It didn't fade, it was taken. 264 00:16:19,195 --> 00:16:21,371 NEWSCASTER 1: A riot zone it was. 265 00:16:21,415 --> 00:16:26,594 The worst riot in the history of Los Angeles County. 266 00:16:26,637 --> 00:16:29,684 NEWSCASTER 2: Six days of rioting in a negro section of Los Angeles 267 00:16:29,727 --> 00:16:33,427 left behind scenes reminiscent of war-torn cities. 268 00:16:33,470 --> 00:16:37,170 NEWSCASTER: More than 100 square blocks were decimated by fire and looters, 269 00:16:37,213 --> 00:16:38,998 and few buildings were left in-tact. 270 00:16:49,095 --> 00:16:50,618 [SIREN WAILING] 271 00:17:06,721 --> 00:17:07,809 Brought up in Watts. 272 00:17:09,463 --> 00:17:11,682 The Watts riot, I was ten years old. 273 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,513 Black people have been under stress 274 00:17:16,557 --> 00:17:20,691 and false accusations just by being black. 275 00:17:20,735 --> 00:17:23,042 White man was basically in charge. 276 00:17:25,218 --> 00:17:30,005 The Watts riot started with a police officer disrespecting a black youth. 277 00:17:31,789 --> 00:17:35,228 When the mob came out, a police officer, 278 00:17:35,271 --> 00:17:36,664 he did something he shouldn't have done. 279 00:17:44,019 --> 00:17:46,630 It was all white businesses in an all black neighborhood. 280 00:17:49,155 --> 00:17:52,332 Every business in Watts that don't belong there, 281 00:17:53,202 --> 00:17:54,421 they just got burned out. 282 00:17:59,730 --> 00:18:02,342 Right down there, the whole street on both sides. 283 00:18:10,045 --> 00:18:11,655 Martial law showed up. 284 00:18:17,008 --> 00:18:19,141 Military showed up. 285 00:18:19,185 --> 00:18:22,188 Anything caught outside after 10:00, 286 00:18:22,231 --> 00:18:23,928 don't arrest it, shoot it. 287 00:18:40,641 --> 00:18:45,167 For a person like me to witness something like that, 288 00:18:45,211 --> 00:18:47,213 it's some hard shit to swallow. 289 00:18:47,256 --> 00:18:49,258 It was very nerve-racking 290 00:18:49,302 --> 00:18:53,393 to a point where you look at things and what you're going through, 291 00:18:53,436 --> 00:18:56,744 how the world really is, and it ain't what you think. 292 00:19:02,184 --> 00:19:04,534 This is the street I was brought up on. 293 00:19:04,578 --> 00:19:07,015 This house right here, we lived in the back. 294 00:19:07,058 --> 00:19:08,364 Five of us lived in this house. 295 00:19:19,549 --> 00:19:22,161 All the nightmares and everything, 296 00:19:22,204 --> 00:19:24,163 it happened here. This is where it started at. 297 00:19:27,644 --> 00:19:29,385 I didn't have a childhood. 298 00:19:29,429 --> 00:19:32,475 In the family, there was no love. There was no understanding. 299 00:19:34,651 --> 00:19:36,131 Didn't have a dad, 300 00:19:36,175 --> 00:19:38,394 but my mom had to be the man of the house. 301 00:19:39,656 --> 00:19:41,876 SALLY: Mad grew up in a very abusive home. 302 00:19:44,487 --> 00:19:46,054 Whatever problems his mother was having, 303 00:19:46,097 --> 00:19:48,056 she tended to take out on him. 304 00:19:50,711 --> 00:19:54,149 Spent the majority of my time in closets, hiding from her 305 00:19:54,193 --> 00:19:57,805 because when she came home, 306 00:19:57,848 --> 00:20:01,243 we were basically waking up 2:00 or 3:00 in the morning, 307 00:20:01,287 --> 00:20:02,636 getting damn near beat to death. 308 00:20:04,072 --> 00:20:05,552 And I didn't understand that. 309 00:20:15,779 --> 00:20:17,738 No matter if you was a kid or not, 310 00:20:17,781 --> 00:20:20,262 long as you was colored you couldn't be trusted. 311 00:20:21,785 --> 00:20:24,353 When we saw the police, first thing we did was... 312 00:20:24,397 --> 00:20:25,746 "We out here." 313 00:20:25,789 --> 00:20:27,400 When they caught us, "Why you running?" 314 00:20:27,443 --> 00:20:29,097 "You the police." 315 00:20:29,140 --> 00:20:32,143 "What that gotta do with it?" "You the police." 316 00:20:32,187 --> 00:20:35,538 This is like a hand-me-down from generations. 317 00:20:35,582 --> 00:20:37,932 "See the police? Run." 318 00:20:37,975 --> 00:20:41,283 And when you're brought up around something like that, 319 00:20:41,327 --> 00:20:42,806 you know, you never lose it. 320 00:20:46,897 --> 00:20:49,900 Then one day, I decided to go to Venice. 321 00:20:50,945 --> 00:20:52,642 I just saw a guy out there 322 00:20:52,686 --> 00:20:55,210 who just was skating to a transistor radio. 323 00:20:55,254 --> 00:20:57,299 When I got bored enough, 324 00:20:57,343 --> 00:20:59,432 I started asking him, "What was that?" 325 00:21:01,303 --> 00:21:04,088 Got me a set of skates to put that ball under the foot, 326 00:21:04,132 --> 00:21:06,482 took that toe stop off and I got busy. 327 00:21:08,484 --> 00:21:11,052 Skating basically meant the world to me 328 00:21:11,095 --> 00:21:14,316 because of what I wanted to do with it, for me. 329 00:21:14,360 --> 00:21:17,885 I didn't just wanna do the routine, 330 00:21:17,928 --> 00:21:19,930 I wanted to be the routine. 331 00:21:23,238 --> 00:21:26,372 SALLY: So Venice was his escape from all that. 332 00:21:27,895 --> 00:21:29,984 Venice was his playground. 333 00:21:30,027 --> 00:21:32,639 It was the one place he could go to express himself and be free. 334 00:21:36,730 --> 00:21:39,907 He was channeling all that pain into his skating 335 00:21:39,950 --> 00:21:42,649 and he turned all that pain into something really beautiful. 336 00:21:48,263 --> 00:21:51,527 Not having a childhood, this is gonna be mine. 337 00:21:51,571 --> 00:21:53,747 And I told myself, 338 00:21:53,790 --> 00:21:56,880 "Nobody out here is gonna rain on my parade." 339 00:22:00,667 --> 00:22:03,757 It's so hard to fully explain 340 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,107 my resonance with African-American culture. 341 00:22:06,150 --> 00:22:09,066 I'm Middle Eastern, 342 00:22:09,110 --> 00:22:12,200 and I grew up in a very, very racist environment. 343 00:22:12,243 --> 00:22:14,550 In the South, you're either black or you're white. 344 00:22:14,594 --> 00:22:16,552 "Black or white" is the way they would say it to me. 345 00:22:16,596 --> 00:22:18,162 "Are you black or white?" 346 00:22:18,206 --> 00:22:22,210 And, um, you know, I never knew what to say. 347 00:22:22,253 --> 00:22:26,910 I came to Venice Beach back in '82. 348 00:22:26,954 --> 00:22:31,698 It was America at its furthest point. 349 00:22:31,741 --> 00:22:36,746 Multicultural, hip, authentic. 350 00:22:36,790 --> 00:22:40,576 I saw Mad skating, and I was just blown away. 351 00:22:41,708 --> 00:22:45,102 MAD: Sally was a nice-looking girl. 352 00:22:45,146 --> 00:22:46,408 Very slender. 353 00:22:46,452 --> 00:22:48,367 She had my attention. 354 00:22:48,410 --> 00:22:52,240 I was on her like skin on grape. 355 00:22:52,283 --> 00:22:55,112 When it came down to the introduction thing, I already knew. 356 00:22:55,156 --> 00:22:57,158 I hopped onto her, I got up in her face, 357 00:22:57,201 --> 00:23:00,030 and she was, like, stuck on a smile. 358 00:23:00,074 --> 00:23:02,206 SALLY: He just turns his skate to the side, 359 00:23:02,250 --> 00:23:04,557 and in one incredibly rapid movement, 360 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,689 just glides right over to me. 361 00:23:06,733 --> 00:23:08,387 Now he's like inches from my face, 362 00:23:08,430 --> 00:23:10,432 towering above me in his skates. 363 00:23:10,476 --> 00:23:13,261 And he just looks down at me and he goes, "What?" 364 00:23:13,304 --> 00:23:15,611 "Will you teach me?" I said, "Look, lady, 365 00:23:15,655 --> 00:23:17,744 "you get some skates. I'll teach you." 366 00:23:17,787 --> 00:23:19,746 And he's like, "Be here tomorrow, 3:00." 367 00:23:20,964 --> 00:23:23,880 I took my life savings, which was $100, 368 00:23:23,924 --> 00:23:26,753 and I paid for these roller skates, you know, 369 00:23:26,796 --> 00:23:28,972 having no idea if I could actually skate. 370 00:23:29,016 --> 00:23:31,235 And then I just started going out there every day. 371 00:23:31,279 --> 00:23:33,281 [FUNK MUSIC PLAYING] 372 00:23:45,424 --> 00:23:48,209 I never gave any thought that Sally would be my skate partner 373 00:23:48,252 --> 00:23:49,863 until I started teasing her. 374 00:23:49,906 --> 00:23:52,039 Then once I made her do the hard numbers, 375 00:23:52,082 --> 00:23:53,519 she did it. 376 00:23:53,562 --> 00:23:55,608 "Man, wait a minute. Do this again." 377 00:23:58,872 --> 00:24:02,092 And when she did it, I got a smile then. 378 00:24:02,136 --> 00:24:04,399 "I'll be damned." 379 00:24:04,443 --> 00:24:06,445 SALLY: "I hope you're what I think you are, 380 00:24:06,488 --> 00:24:08,751 "the skating partner I've always dreamed of." And I'm like, "Yes!" 381 00:24:15,366 --> 00:24:18,500 Because, of course, I was hoping that he could see in me 382 00:24:18,544 --> 00:24:20,763 what I really believed I had inside of me, 383 00:24:20,807 --> 00:24:23,723 I could really move soulfully and really be a great partner for him. 384 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,471 TERRELL: Skating kept me out of trouble because it was that something to do 385 00:24:32,514 --> 00:24:34,690 for those eight or ten hours on a Saturday or Sunday 386 00:24:34,734 --> 00:24:37,258 while I wasn't in my neighborhood. 387 00:24:37,301 --> 00:24:38,302 I'm from South Central LA. 388 00:24:42,524 --> 00:24:44,352 [ENGINE REVVING] 389 00:24:44,395 --> 00:24:47,790 The two permanent black gangs are the Crips and the Bloods. 390 00:24:47,834 --> 00:24:49,836 I lived in a Crip neighborhood, 391 00:24:49,879 --> 00:24:52,055 but there were two different factions of Blood gangs around. 392 00:24:52,099 --> 00:24:53,753 You had to know how to navigate 393 00:24:53,796 --> 00:24:55,929 through the world of the gangs, 394 00:24:55,972 --> 00:24:58,322 and in my case, to navigate without being in a gang. 395 00:25:00,107 --> 00:25:02,762 On my way to Venice, I would take the bus, 396 00:25:02,805 --> 00:25:07,506 and I'd have to go through several Crip neighborhoods just to get to the beach. 397 00:25:07,549 --> 00:25:10,204 And it was like coming out of where I come from, 398 00:25:10,247 --> 00:25:12,598 where you have to fight or dodge bullets or whatever. 399 00:25:12,641 --> 00:25:15,165 It was like a utopia. It was like my little sanctuary. 400 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,783 LARRY: But his mom didn't mind him coming down there. 401 00:25:23,826 --> 00:25:25,480 even though he was a kid. 402 00:25:25,524 --> 00:25:26,742 It kept him out of trouble. 403 00:25:28,570 --> 00:25:30,311 We looked out for him. 404 00:25:30,354 --> 00:25:33,314 We looked out for everybody that skated in that area. 405 00:25:33,357 --> 00:25:34,837 We became inseparable. 406 00:25:34,881 --> 00:25:37,448 I mean, we were turning into a family. 407 00:25:42,236 --> 00:25:43,977 JIMMY: My brother, he got caught up in some stuff. 408 00:25:44,020 --> 00:25:45,326 He was a playboy gangster Crip. 409 00:25:46,980 --> 00:25:48,982 He ended up going to jail, 410 00:25:49,025 --> 00:25:51,201 incarcerated for a long period of time, 411 00:25:51,245 --> 00:25:54,509 so he spent more than half of his life in prison so far. 412 00:25:54,553 --> 00:25:56,555 He's been in jail over 35 years. 413 00:26:06,652 --> 00:26:09,002 When I turned 17, 414 00:26:09,045 --> 00:26:12,135 I was hanging out with some people that were not doing the best. 415 00:26:14,660 --> 00:26:17,010 I would've had to have join a gang 416 00:26:17,053 --> 00:26:18,620 in order to survive in that neighborhood. 417 00:26:18,664 --> 00:26:20,230 I just needed to get away. 418 00:26:20,274 --> 00:26:22,711 I needed to find some new friends. 419 00:26:22,755 --> 00:26:26,193 When I came to Venice, it kept me out of the hood, it kept me out of trouble. 420 00:26:26,236 --> 00:26:27,542 I would say it saved my life. 421 00:26:33,330 --> 00:26:35,855 We didn't have to worry about gang members or anything like that 422 00:26:35,898 --> 00:26:39,859 because Mad is so known all throughout Los Angeles that even gangs know Mad. 423 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,646 TERRELL: Mad would never let somebody get jumped. 424 00:26:44,690 --> 00:26:47,736 And I've seen many times where there'd be, like, 425 00:26:47,780 --> 00:26:50,739 five Crips on one Blood or five Bloods on one Crip. 426 00:26:50,783 --> 00:26:52,611 He'd look and he'd be skating. 427 00:26:52,654 --> 00:26:54,003 "The hell's going on over there?" 428 00:26:54,047 --> 00:26:56,049 And then he'll take off. "What is he doing?" 429 00:26:56,092 --> 00:26:58,225 So now, I'm trying to keep up behind him. 430 00:26:58,268 --> 00:27:01,271 And he'll get to a crowd of people and he just starts throwing people out of the way 431 00:27:01,315 --> 00:27:03,404 and they'll all turn like, 432 00:27:03,447 --> 00:27:07,103 "Oh, yeah, okay. No, I'm good." 433 00:27:07,147 --> 00:27:10,759 He was the law and the jury and the judge all at the same time. 434 00:27:10,803 --> 00:27:12,239 He was more like a protector. 435 00:27:13,719 --> 00:27:15,677 MAD: I didn't trust nobody back then. 436 00:27:16,809 --> 00:27:19,072 I didn't smile. I had this look. 437 00:27:19,115 --> 00:27:20,987 And when I said something, that really scared them 438 00:27:21,030 --> 00:27:23,685 'cause of the voice and the size. 439 00:27:23,729 --> 00:27:26,819 People looked at me like I was a monster. 440 00:27:26,862 --> 00:27:29,822 LARRY: He looks like this guy that just wants to rip your head off 441 00:27:29,865 --> 00:27:32,259 or something like that, but he's gentle. 442 00:27:32,302 --> 00:27:34,653 The music was the most important thing. 443 00:27:34,696 --> 00:27:36,829 Without no music, nobody knew what to do. 444 00:27:36,872 --> 00:27:39,701 The six-pin, a slingshot 445 00:27:39,745 --> 00:27:42,312 slide into it, the alpha. 446 00:27:42,356 --> 00:27:43,792 You didn't feel like doing none of that 447 00:27:43,836 --> 00:27:45,228 'cause you had no motivation. 448 00:27:45,272 --> 00:27:47,317 The music was the motivation. Like a night club. 449 00:27:47,361 --> 00:27:49,015 Is there a night club where there's no music? 450 00:27:49,058 --> 00:27:50,277 That wouldn't go. 451 00:27:51,974 --> 00:27:55,064 When that song Nasty Rock came on, 452 00:27:55,108 --> 00:27:59,678 I felt what was going on, knew all the cuts. 453 00:27:59,721 --> 00:28:03,246 The song came on, everybody knew what to do. 454 00:28:04,508 --> 00:28:06,946 [ NASTY ROCKPLAYING] 455 00:28:13,300 --> 00:28:15,519 [WOMAN LAUGHING] 456 00:28:56,996 --> 00:28:59,128 ALL: Whoo! 457 00:29:02,436 --> 00:29:03,785 [WOMAN LAUGHING] 458 00:29:10,705 --> 00:29:11,880 Come on up. 459 00:29:23,631 --> 00:29:26,590 In the '70s and the '80s, 460 00:29:26,634 --> 00:29:28,462 it was a whole different country, 461 00:29:28,505 --> 00:29:29,985 especially in the black community. 462 00:29:30,029 --> 00:29:32,161 And the music reflected that. 463 00:29:32,205 --> 00:29:34,207 When you incorporate dance into that, 464 00:29:34,250 --> 00:29:36,600 there's so much self-expression, 465 00:29:36,644 --> 00:29:41,214 especially if you're lucky enough to be skating to some meaningful music. 466 00:29:41,257 --> 00:29:45,174 I will tell you, the greatest protest folk song that was ever written 467 00:29:45,218 --> 00:29:47,742 was by Mr. James Brown. 468 00:29:47,786 --> 00:29:51,746 I'm Black And I'm Proud, that song meant so much to so many people. 469 00:29:51,790 --> 00:29:56,055 -♪ Say it loud -♪ I'm black and I'm proud 470 00:29:56,098 --> 00:29:59,014 -♪ Say it loud -♪ I'm black and I'm proud 471 00:30:01,756 --> 00:30:05,847 SALLY: And when we skate to that song, it does something. 472 00:30:05,891 --> 00:30:09,068 You have people just saying, "Goddamn it, yeah." 473 00:30:13,028 --> 00:30:15,814 -♪ Say it loud -♪ I'm black and I'm proud 474 00:30:15,857 --> 00:30:17,293 ♪ One more time 475 00:30:17,337 --> 00:30:19,861 -♪ Say it loud -♪ I'm black and I'm proud 476 00:30:21,428 --> 00:30:25,214 ♪ I worked on jobs with my feet and my hands♪ 477 00:30:25,258 --> 00:30:27,695 My theme song coming up in this 478 00:30:27,738 --> 00:30:29,479 was Egypt, Egypt by Egyptian Lover 479 00:30:29,523 --> 00:30:31,220 'cause there was this breathing part, it was like... 480 00:30:31,264 --> 00:30:32,831 [BREATHING HEAVILY] 481 00:30:32,874 --> 00:30:35,181 And I could thump and flip and do all my tricks 482 00:30:35,224 --> 00:30:36,225 to that song. 483 00:30:39,533 --> 00:30:41,491 The girls would tend to like to see my booty move. 484 00:30:41,535 --> 00:30:43,450 Any song with a lot of breathing 485 00:30:43,493 --> 00:30:45,756 allows me to move my butt, which allows girls to watch my butt, 486 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,846 which allows me to meet girls. 487 00:30:47,889 --> 00:30:51,240 It's a love triangle of music, skating and women. 488 00:30:51,284 --> 00:30:52,502 [CROWD APPLAUDING] 489 00:31:00,119 --> 00:31:03,513 LARRY: Mad was just about fun and women, period. 490 00:31:03,557 --> 00:31:06,212 He's getting in trouble all the time with his girlfriend. 491 00:31:06,255 --> 00:31:08,301 "Larry, watch the box." and he's gone. 492 00:31:08,344 --> 00:31:10,564 "Oh, God, here we go again." 493 00:31:10,607 --> 00:31:12,609 And I go, "Where's Mad at?" 494 00:31:12,653 --> 00:31:13,872 "I don't know." 495 00:31:20,966 --> 00:31:23,142 TERRELL: Mad would see somebody sitting there and have me like, 496 00:31:23,185 --> 00:31:25,013 "Terrell, come here." 497 00:31:25,057 --> 00:31:26,928 Grab me by my shoulder and just like, 498 00:31:26,972 --> 00:31:29,931 "See that girl over there? Go get her number for me." 499 00:31:29,975 --> 00:31:32,238 I'm like, "Uh, okay." 500 00:31:32,281 --> 00:31:36,155 and I'd skate over, "Excuse me, Mr. Mad wants your phone number." 501 00:31:36,198 --> 00:31:38,287 And she's like, "Who the hell is Mr. Mad?" 502 00:31:38,331 --> 00:31:39,941 I'm like, "Uh, that big dude over there." 503 00:31:39,985 --> 00:31:42,770 And she's like, "Oh, tell him to come here." 504 00:31:42,813 --> 00:31:44,467 So I'd go back, skate back, 505 00:31:44,511 --> 00:31:47,340 "Mad, she said you need to go over there." 506 00:31:47,383 --> 00:31:50,560 "All right." Then Mad scoots over and gets her number. 507 00:31:50,604 --> 00:31:51,735 And that's how we did it. 508 00:31:52,780 --> 00:31:55,174 MAD: I was mostly into myself 509 00:31:55,217 --> 00:31:58,046 more than a woman wasting my time. 510 00:31:59,787 --> 00:32:01,963 Mad was more of a big brother than a dad 511 00:32:02,007 --> 00:32:05,140 'cause the dad wouldn't tell you some of the shit that Mad told me. 512 00:32:05,184 --> 00:32:07,708 He would give me words of wisdom like, 513 00:32:07,751 --> 00:32:09,188 "Stick and move. Stick and move." 514 00:32:09,231 --> 00:32:12,539 basically meaning, "Don't get caught with one woman." 515 00:32:12,582 --> 00:32:15,063 Stick and move meant, get one, get done with it. 516 00:32:15,107 --> 00:32:17,196 Get another one, get done with it. 517 00:32:17,239 --> 00:32:19,285 So when he found out that I was having a kid, 518 00:32:19,328 --> 00:32:21,113 he was like, "Oh, you stick and got stuck." 519 00:32:23,158 --> 00:32:24,812 HOST: We have the Venice skaters here, 520 00:32:24,855 --> 00:32:26,161 and I think they're gonna start the show. 521 00:32:26,205 --> 00:32:27,380 We have Mad here. 522 00:32:27,423 --> 00:32:29,164 [CROWD CHEERING] 523 00:32:29,208 --> 00:32:32,907 And let's her it for Terrell, Jimmy. 524 00:32:32,951 --> 00:32:34,822 [PERCUSSION MUSIC PLAYING] 525 00:32:40,045 --> 00:32:42,308 SALLY: When we all lived in small tribal communities, 526 00:32:42,351 --> 00:32:44,266 whether you were in Ireland or Africa, 527 00:32:44,310 --> 00:32:45,833 men would dance together. 528 00:32:47,139 --> 00:32:48,749 And it's a beautiful thing. 529 00:32:50,055 --> 00:32:53,580 And that lives in roller skating. 530 00:32:57,279 --> 00:33:02,241 But there's nothing like a great dance or skate team. 531 00:33:02,284 --> 00:33:04,156 There are things that a team can do together 532 00:33:04,199 --> 00:33:06,332 that just create a certain magic, 533 00:33:06,375 --> 00:33:09,204 like Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers. 534 00:33:11,250 --> 00:33:13,382 I always used to think of me and Mad 535 00:33:13,426 --> 00:33:16,951 as being the Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers of roller dancing. 536 00:33:18,126 --> 00:33:20,650 The soulful version. 537 00:33:20,694 --> 00:33:24,002 If it came down to going somewhere 538 00:33:24,045 --> 00:33:25,699 to sell it to the public, 539 00:33:25,742 --> 00:33:27,222 she was the ticket. 540 00:33:27,266 --> 00:33:29,442 All females, basically. 541 00:33:29,485 --> 00:33:31,835 It's never the guy that sells a ticket, 542 00:33:31,879 --> 00:33:33,011 it's your partner. 543 00:33:38,668 --> 00:33:41,062 SALLY: My friend from Sweden happened to come by 544 00:33:41,106 --> 00:33:42,585 and take these photos one day, 545 00:33:42,629 --> 00:33:45,458 and I was sort of almost embarrassed by it 546 00:33:45,501 --> 00:33:49,940 because my love for him is so obvious...[LAUGHING] 547 00:33:49,984 --> 00:33:51,638 It's almost embarrassing. 548 00:33:53,553 --> 00:33:56,730 Man, I had one of the great love affairs of all time 549 00:33:56,773 --> 00:33:59,472 without even necessarily having a love affair. 550 00:34:07,697 --> 00:34:10,048 JIMMY: Some people are performers, some people are watchers. 551 00:34:11,788 --> 00:34:14,878 I started seeing footage of myself, pictures of myself, 552 00:34:14,922 --> 00:34:16,837 and people coming and saying, "Hey, look, I found you." 553 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,274 I never really recognized what it looked like, 554 00:34:19,318 --> 00:34:21,189 and I realized, you know, this is... 555 00:34:21,233 --> 00:34:23,104 "You're doing something very unique." 556 00:34:23,148 --> 00:34:26,760 Instead of celebrating us or thanking us or paying us, 557 00:34:26,803 --> 00:34:30,720 Hollywood comes down and tries to exploit the talent. 558 00:34:30,764 --> 00:34:32,461 NARRATOR: He's the best skater around. 559 00:34:32,505 --> 00:34:34,855 She's the hottest date in town. 560 00:34:34,898 --> 00:34:37,771 Together, they're love on wheels 561 00:34:37,814 --> 00:34:40,295 inRoller Boogie. 562 00:34:40,339 --> 00:34:42,297 DUVAL: We taught Linda Blair how to skate. 563 00:34:42,341 --> 00:34:45,692 She was like all feet. Nowhere to go. 564 00:34:45,735 --> 00:34:47,955 LARRY: All of those roller skate movies, 565 00:34:47,998 --> 00:34:50,479 all carbon copies of what we did down in Venice. 566 00:34:51,959 --> 00:34:54,179 MAD: Roller Boogie, only showing Linda Blair, 567 00:34:54,222 --> 00:34:57,791 this dude doing some Scott Hamilton, Dorothy Hamill shit. 568 00:34:57,834 --> 00:35:00,141 Uh, where's the talent in that? I don't see it. 569 00:35:01,055 --> 00:35:03,057 DUVAL: Skatetown, USA. 570 00:35:03,101 --> 00:35:06,495 The whole story was centered around a bunch of white guys. 571 00:35:06,539 --> 00:35:08,497 This white guy, white girl picture. 572 00:35:08,541 --> 00:35:11,109 I mean, none of us are being represented. 573 00:35:11,152 --> 00:35:14,155 Skatetown, USA,where they wanted to cut me in half 574 00:35:14,199 --> 00:35:15,548 and put this dude on top of me. 575 00:35:15,591 --> 00:35:17,985 And I'm like, "You gotta be kidding." 576 00:35:18,028 --> 00:35:20,205 They was like, "What's wrong with that? Everybody does it." 577 00:35:20,248 --> 00:35:23,164 I say, "How they gonna know who I am 578 00:35:23,208 --> 00:35:25,123 "if they're only seeing this part 579 00:35:25,166 --> 00:35:27,212 "with some dude that I don't even know on top of me?" 580 00:35:27,255 --> 00:35:28,517 I said no. 581 00:35:28,909 --> 00:35:30,780 LARRY: Xanadu. 582 00:35:30,824 --> 00:35:32,782 They didn't really get skaters. 583 00:35:34,610 --> 00:35:36,177 You have clowns, 584 00:35:36,221 --> 00:35:38,745 you know, 'cause they're doing flips, they're flopping. 585 00:35:38,788 --> 00:35:41,051 They're doing everything but skate. 586 00:35:41,095 --> 00:35:43,141 Anybody can skate in a straight line. 587 00:35:43,184 --> 00:35:44,533 But can you do the other stuff? 588 00:35:50,452 --> 00:35:52,367 MAD: People came out there, they got upset. 589 00:35:52,411 --> 00:35:53,586 "I can't even see the roller skaters. 590 00:35:53,629 --> 00:35:54,935 "I heard so much about them. 591 00:35:54,978 --> 00:35:56,676 "Where the white people at?" 592 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,678 "We watched it on movies." 593 00:35:58,721 --> 00:36:00,723 They wanted white America out there, 594 00:36:00,767 --> 00:36:03,509 but Venice is about the only beach that's black. 595 00:36:06,381 --> 00:36:07,643 LARRY: They definitely whitewashed it. 596 00:36:10,255 --> 00:36:11,952 SALLY: If we were to look back 597 00:36:11,995 --> 00:36:16,174 on what record do we have of the skating phenomenon 598 00:36:16,217 --> 00:36:19,438 that really was a part of black culture in America, 599 00:36:19,481 --> 00:36:23,442 you wouldn't see the phenomenal things that happened on Venice Beach. 600 00:36:23,485 --> 00:36:27,054 We would see these ridiculous movies, 601 00:36:28,055 --> 00:36:29,404 silly Afros, 602 00:36:30,275 --> 00:36:33,408 ridiculous clothing. 603 00:36:33,452 --> 00:36:38,413 The tragedy of that is that history has just been completely rewritten. 604 00:36:38,457 --> 00:36:40,633 That becomes what people think the culture was. 605 00:36:44,506 --> 00:36:47,117 DUVAL: It doesn't give any of us skaters 606 00:36:47,161 --> 00:36:51,600 who are out there over the weekend any representation. 607 00:36:51,644 --> 00:36:55,125 We have a black Green Lantern, but there's no black Superman. 608 00:36:55,169 --> 00:36:58,259 So I was like, "We gotta remedy that." 609 00:37:01,828 --> 00:37:04,570 Keep it hidden, as you can see. 610 00:37:06,398 --> 00:37:08,226 And this is yours truly 611 00:37:09,227 --> 00:37:10,532 in regal fashion. 612 00:37:11,838 --> 00:37:15,363 I'm Superiad, the forgotten prince of Krypton. 613 00:37:15,407 --> 00:37:17,278 These are my skates of power, 614 00:37:17,322 --> 00:37:19,149 the most dangerous skates alive. [CHUCKLES] 615 00:37:21,674 --> 00:37:24,938 Skating is a need to express yourself, 616 00:37:24,981 --> 00:37:26,896 the same may I do in my artwork. 617 00:37:28,071 --> 00:37:30,683 I'm a freelance illustrator. 618 00:37:30,726 --> 00:37:34,339 And this is my dream called Roller Coasters. 619 00:37:34,382 --> 00:37:37,777 TheRoller Coasters was my very first creator owned series. 620 00:37:43,348 --> 00:37:45,088 I sat there and thought one day, 621 00:37:45,132 --> 00:37:47,917 "Why not have a roller-skating superhero team?" 622 00:37:53,227 --> 00:37:54,837 The reason why they have skates on, 623 00:37:54,881 --> 00:37:56,578 because they're lightning fast. 624 00:37:56,622 --> 00:37:58,276 They're faster than the speed of sound. 625 00:38:01,235 --> 00:38:02,584 This is Mr. Mad. 626 00:38:06,936 --> 00:38:09,374 He's the perfect character. [CHUCKLES] 627 00:38:09,417 --> 00:38:12,638 Strong, brash, and very, very impulsive. 628 00:38:20,602 --> 00:38:23,257 SALLY: Nobody mattered like Mad did. 629 00:38:23,301 --> 00:38:25,781 He was really an artist, 630 00:38:25,825 --> 00:38:28,654 and his dreams were like any artist's, 631 00:38:28,697 --> 00:38:32,179 to show the world what he could do. 632 00:38:33,876 --> 00:38:36,662 He didn't allow himself to have a lot of dreams. 633 00:38:38,011 --> 00:38:39,839 Dreaming is dangerous territory. 634 00:38:42,276 --> 00:38:45,148 Skating with me the way he knew I could skate with him, 635 00:38:46,411 --> 00:38:48,238 skating in competition, 636 00:38:48,282 --> 00:38:50,937 was the only dream he ever allowed himself to have. 637 00:38:52,112 --> 00:38:54,201 And then I went and fucked it up. 638 00:38:57,944 --> 00:39:02,731 So even though skating had suddenly become this wild obsession, 639 00:39:04,254 --> 00:39:07,649 my life-long passion and my career was music. 640 00:39:07,693 --> 00:39:11,392 So just as I was becoming a skater, 641 00:39:11,436 --> 00:39:14,439 I went off to Europe with my songwriting partner to do a tour. 642 00:39:22,403 --> 00:39:26,233 My very last day, and we're in London, 643 00:39:26,276 --> 00:39:29,149 the folks I was staying with, he calls out, 644 00:39:29,192 --> 00:39:32,544 [IN BRITISH ACCENT] "Sally, could you come down and help me jump start the car?" 645 00:39:32,587 --> 00:39:34,720 And I turned to run to the other side of the street 646 00:39:34,763 --> 00:39:38,376 and ran smack into a car. 647 00:39:38,419 --> 00:39:42,902 And the car actually ran over my foot and into my knee, 648 00:39:42,945 --> 00:39:45,992 and sort of permanently destroyed 649 00:39:46,035 --> 00:39:48,647 what would've been my great skating career. 650 00:39:48,690 --> 00:39:49,996 She came back with some crutches, 651 00:39:50,039 --> 00:39:51,998 walked over to me, "Hey, how you doin'?" 652 00:39:52,041 --> 00:39:53,608 I froze and I look. 653 00:39:53,652 --> 00:39:55,436 I went, "The hell happened to you?" 654 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,307 My nightmare just started. 655 00:39:58,700 --> 00:40:03,575 Nobody else was capable of doing what she did. 656 00:40:08,057 --> 00:40:13,236 SALLY: He was like, "You'll never be able to be really good again." 657 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,588 And he turned away from me and didn't speak to me for, like, two, three years. 658 00:40:19,808 --> 00:40:22,985 I basically dashed the only dream 659 00:40:23,029 --> 00:40:25,292 he'd ever really allowed himself to have. 660 00:40:28,991 --> 00:40:31,646 My dreams, everything went down the drain. 661 00:40:37,304 --> 00:40:39,219 SALLY: I didn't understand why he was ignoring me. 662 00:40:41,003 --> 00:40:43,049 And what was really frustrating 663 00:40:43,092 --> 00:40:45,094 is that he would be teaching all these other girls 664 00:40:49,534 --> 00:40:50,839 who just didn't have it in them. 665 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,668 [FUNK MUSIC PLAYING] 666 00:41:33,752 --> 00:41:36,929 REPORTER: The three police officers facing felony criminal charges 667 00:41:36,972 --> 00:41:38,931 were among a group of 15 668 00:41:38,974 --> 00:41:42,238 who stopped a 25-year-old black man last Saturday night, 669 00:41:42,282 --> 00:41:44,545 then beat him, kicked him and clubbed him, 670 00:41:44,589 --> 00:41:46,895 unaware that an amateur photographer 671 00:41:46,939 --> 00:41:49,985 was recording the incident on video tape. 672 00:41:50,029 --> 00:41:54,468 MAD: When the guy filmed the police beating Rodney King, 673 00:41:54,512 --> 00:41:56,296 black people used to seeing that. 674 00:41:56,339 --> 00:41:58,298 That was no big deal. 675 00:41:58,341 --> 00:42:00,692 JURY MEMBER: We, the jury, to the above entitled action, 676 00:42:00,735 --> 00:42:03,259 find the defendant, Stacey C. Koon, 677 00:42:03,303 --> 00:42:06,045 not guilty of the crime of assault by force 678 00:42:06,088 --> 00:42:09,744 likely to produce great bodily injury and with a deadly weapon. 679 00:42:09,788 --> 00:42:12,486 The jury is what started the riot. 680 00:42:12,530 --> 00:42:14,357 [SIREN WAILING] 681 00:42:14,401 --> 00:42:16,751 The world just blew up. 682 00:42:16,795 --> 00:42:20,276 NEWSCASTER: The National Guard has been called in to quell widespread violence 683 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,104 in South Central Los Angeles. 684 00:42:22,148 --> 00:42:24,324 The violence erupted after the acquittal 685 00:42:24,367 --> 00:42:28,197 of four white policemen in the beating trial of black motorist Rodney King. 686 00:42:28,241 --> 00:42:30,939 There's been looting, buildings has been set ablaze. 687 00:42:30,983 --> 00:42:33,115 So far, eight people reported dead. 688 00:42:33,159 --> 00:42:35,117 Scores of others have been injured. 689 00:42:35,161 --> 00:42:36,858 Governor Pete Wilson has declared a state of emergency. 690 00:42:42,211 --> 00:42:44,213 LARRY: The riots were a turning point. 691 00:42:44,257 --> 00:42:46,085 Everything down at the beach changed. 692 00:42:49,131 --> 00:42:51,612 It broke the continuity that we had down there. 693 00:42:51,656 --> 00:42:53,745 It just shattered everything. 694 00:42:56,661 --> 00:42:58,358 All of a sudden, drugs became notorious. 695 00:43:02,231 --> 00:43:05,365 When crack cocaine came out, this place flipped 696 00:43:05,408 --> 00:43:08,629 because, I mean, it's definitely so addictive 697 00:43:08,673 --> 00:43:12,894 that it took people you know that were straight-A students and good people, 698 00:43:12,938 --> 00:43:15,897 all of a sudden and just turned them into thugs, 699 00:43:15,941 --> 00:43:19,684 and people doing whatever they felt they wanted to do just to get a hit. 700 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,778 LARRY: So I started experimenting with heroine, crack 701 00:43:26,821 --> 00:43:28,867 from about '86 and '93. 702 00:43:28,910 --> 00:43:32,044 I was... I was out of control. 703 00:43:33,698 --> 00:43:36,265 MAD: Larry was on a roll of self-destruction. 704 00:43:36,309 --> 00:43:38,267 He looking like whatever them drugs, 705 00:43:38,311 --> 00:43:41,009 whatever that nighttime thing he was doing, 706 00:43:41,053 --> 00:43:42,228 it was on him. 707 00:43:42,271 --> 00:43:44,447 He was showing it in the look. 708 00:43:44,491 --> 00:43:46,101 And we couldn't trust something 709 00:43:46,145 --> 00:43:48,277 to be left right here 710 00:43:48,321 --> 00:43:49,583 if Larry was there. 711 00:43:49,627 --> 00:43:50,845 It came up missing. 712 00:43:52,107 --> 00:43:53,369 LARRY: I was a burglar. 713 00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:56,546 No house was safe. 714 00:43:56,590 --> 00:43:59,680 The day that I got busted, I didn't know the cops were looking for me. 715 00:43:59,724 --> 00:44:01,377 And I was at a crack house. 716 00:44:01,421 --> 00:44:03,510 When I came out this house, as soon as I walked out, 717 00:44:03,553 --> 00:44:04,859 "You Larry Pitts?" "Yup." 718 00:44:06,295 --> 00:44:07,645 And that was it. 719 00:44:13,738 --> 00:44:17,829 You know, I kind of pulled out of the skating scene in the '90s 720 00:44:17,872 --> 00:44:20,048 for a short while because I had a child, 721 00:44:20,092 --> 00:44:22,660 you know, my son was born, and I was busy being a mother. 722 00:44:24,313 --> 00:44:28,100 But meanwhile, other forces were changing the scene. 723 00:44:29,449 --> 00:44:30,668 [STATIC BUZZING] 724 00:44:30,711 --> 00:44:32,234 [HIP-HOP MUSIC PLAYING] 725 00:44:36,848 --> 00:44:38,719 SALLY: The big record companies 726 00:44:38,763 --> 00:44:42,505 started hyping up the worst wannabes in every genre, 727 00:44:42,549 --> 00:44:44,507 but especially hip-hop, 728 00:44:44,551 --> 00:44:48,555 which degenerated almost exclusively into gangster rap. 729 00:44:48,598 --> 00:44:51,863 ♪ Crack rock, silver pots Manage to get dough 730 00:44:51,906 --> 00:44:54,866 ♪ Crack rock, silver pots Manage to get dough 731 00:44:54,909 --> 00:44:57,085 ♪ Crack rock, silver pots Manage to get dough ♪ 732 00:44:57,129 --> 00:45:00,132 It's really painful to me because we used to have music 733 00:45:00,175 --> 00:45:02,700 that we skated to that empowered us. 734 00:45:02,743 --> 00:45:04,745 How did we get from the '70s, 735 00:45:04,789 --> 00:45:07,487 where everybody was learning 736 00:45:07,530 --> 00:45:09,837 how to listen to one another and respect one another, 737 00:45:09,881 --> 00:45:11,273 and to now? 738 00:45:13,580 --> 00:45:15,538 "Bitch better have my money"? 739 00:45:15,582 --> 00:45:17,279 You expect me to skate to this shit? 740 00:45:17,802 --> 00:45:19,325 [MUSIC CONTINUES] 741 00:45:34,949 --> 00:45:36,951 DUVAL: All they talking about is the bling-bling 742 00:45:36,995 --> 00:45:38,736 or how many ladies they have 743 00:45:38,779 --> 00:45:40,955 or how much gold they got on 744 00:45:40,999 --> 00:45:43,088 or what kind of cars they're driving or whatever. 745 00:45:43,131 --> 00:45:44,480 I don't wanna hear all that. 746 00:45:50,878 --> 00:45:52,706 MAD: I mean, these lyrics, 747 00:45:52,750 --> 00:45:56,318 a lot of "M-Fs," some prostitutes, 748 00:45:56,362 --> 00:45:58,712 that's the number one song 749 00:45:58,756 --> 00:46:01,367 and I'm supposed to, what, enjoy that? 750 00:46:01,410 --> 00:46:03,412 Why the motherfucker's always standing in the middle 751 00:46:03,456 --> 00:46:05,414 at a fucking skate way doing nothing? 752 00:46:07,199 --> 00:46:09,418 JIMMY: That music had to be popular, 753 00:46:09,462 --> 00:46:11,333 had to be what was going on at that time. 754 00:46:11,377 --> 00:46:12,508 It fueled the fire. 755 00:46:14,206 --> 00:46:16,208 MAD: LAPD back then, 756 00:46:16,251 --> 00:46:18,776 they got too many black people in one spot. 757 00:46:18,819 --> 00:46:20,429 That's gonna be a problem. 758 00:46:20,473 --> 00:46:23,824 Just about every weekend, a uniform would show up. 759 00:46:23,868 --> 00:46:26,218 And I knew right then and there that something was about to go wrong. 760 00:46:29,395 --> 00:46:31,005 [YELLING INDISTINCTLY] 761 00:46:32,615 --> 00:46:34,008 [FUNK MUSIC PLAYING] 762 00:46:44,584 --> 00:46:46,368 [CROWD CHEERING] 763 00:46:50,068 --> 00:46:52,026 MAD: And all of a sudden, out of nowhere, 764 00:46:52,070 --> 00:46:54,202 the police got orders. 765 00:46:54,246 --> 00:46:58,032 "Amplified music on the beach is not allowed." 766 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,865 JIMMY: The police started coming and shutting our music off, 767 00:47:04,909 --> 00:47:06,693 and have decibel meters and say, 768 00:47:06,736 --> 00:47:08,216 "You can only have it this loud." 769 00:47:08,260 --> 00:47:09,783 and we'd be like, "We can't even hear it." 770 00:47:09,827 --> 00:47:11,785 The police were afraid of the number of people. 771 00:47:11,829 --> 00:47:14,962 I mean, you'd have like 1,000, 2,000, 3,000 people there 772 00:47:15,006 --> 00:47:17,486 and there's only 20 cops or ten cops. 773 00:47:17,530 --> 00:47:19,880 I think they got afraid that if something jumped off, 774 00:47:19,924 --> 00:47:22,709 they wouldn't be able to handle the situation. 775 00:47:22,752 --> 00:47:25,712 SALLY: Then the cops, they started shutting us down at 8:00, 776 00:47:25,755 --> 00:47:27,627 then they started shutting at down at 7:00, 777 00:47:27,670 --> 00:47:30,630 then they started shutting us down at 6:00. 778 00:47:30,673 --> 00:47:33,981 And I was saying, "Man, if we let them do this, 779 00:47:34,025 --> 00:47:35,896 "soon they'll be shutting us down altogether." 780 00:47:38,159 --> 00:47:40,727 MAD: "I gotta tell you one more time, 781 00:47:40,770 --> 00:47:42,511 "you and this box is going to jail." 782 00:47:51,303 --> 00:47:54,654 This is my goat, my goat. Yeah, uh-huh! 783 00:47:54,697 --> 00:47:56,264 It's right here. 784 00:47:57,352 --> 00:47:58,658 -Mad here. -Right on. 785 00:47:59,180 --> 00:48:00,486 Turn it back up. 786 00:48:04,490 --> 00:48:06,057 I say, "No." 787 00:48:06,100 --> 00:48:07,710 "Put your hands behind your back. You're going to jail." 788 00:48:07,754 --> 00:48:09,495 "For what?" "For amplified music." 789 00:48:09,538 --> 00:48:11,192 "Whoa, you gotta be kidding." 790 00:48:11,889 --> 00:48:13,716 WOMAN: Who's in charge? 791 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,022 They put you in charge? 792 00:48:16,894 --> 00:48:19,026 MAD: The police came. They came hard. 793 00:48:19,070 --> 00:48:21,289 And they came directly at me. 794 00:48:22,290 --> 00:48:23,944 SALLY: During that period, 795 00:48:23,988 --> 00:48:26,468 Mad was thrown in jail repeatedly. 796 00:48:26,512 --> 00:48:29,210 I don't know how many times, but it was a lot. 797 00:48:32,474 --> 00:48:36,087 When we were roller skating in the '80s, 798 00:48:36,130 --> 00:48:37,958 we thought things were gonna get better. 799 00:48:38,002 --> 00:48:41,701 You know, we honestly thought that a lot of the prejudices 800 00:48:41,744 --> 00:48:44,573 that we grew up with in the '50s and '60s or whatever 801 00:48:44,617 --> 00:48:46,401 were dissipating. 802 00:48:49,970 --> 00:48:51,580 We didn't see this coming. 803 00:48:53,582 --> 00:48:56,977 All we wanted to do was dance, skate and play. 804 00:48:57,021 --> 00:48:59,066 There's no reason for this reprimand 805 00:48:59,110 --> 00:49:01,286 or for this enforced nonsense. 806 00:49:01,329 --> 00:49:03,201 We have got a little problem here. 807 00:49:03,244 --> 00:49:06,073 After 20 years of doing this for you guys, 808 00:49:06,117 --> 00:49:08,946 LAPD has decided that they don't wanna do it. 809 00:49:08,989 --> 00:49:10,904 Fight for our right, guys. 810 00:49:10,948 --> 00:49:12,253 MAN: [IN MEGAPHONE] I don't think there's a black race or white race. 811 00:49:12,297 --> 00:49:13,863 We're all the human race, right? 812 00:49:13,907 --> 00:49:16,127 There's no law against skates, so we're gonna skate. 813 00:49:17,911 --> 00:49:19,782 ALL: ♪ No music, no music 814 00:49:19,826 --> 00:49:22,394 ♪ Come on, come on No music, come on 815 00:49:22,437 --> 00:49:24,135 ♪ It's in here Come on ♪ 816 00:49:27,051 --> 00:49:29,531 Being black and getting music on the beach 817 00:49:29,575 --> 00:49:31,881 was far as, in white community 818 00:49:31,925 --> 00:49:33,100 and white eyes, no. 819 00:49:34,406 --> 00:49:36,756 "You guys can have fun, but not like that." 820 00:49:37,626 --> 00:49:39,367 I have a look of, 821 00:49:39,411 --> 00:49:41,108 "You need to come fuck with me." 822 00:49:42,370 --> 00:49:43,763 First thing out of their mouth, 823 00:49:43,806 --> 00:49:46,984 "What penitentiary you just got out of?" Attitude. 824 00:49:48,463 --> 00:49:50,117 "What makes you think I've been in a penitentiary?" 825 00:49:50,161 --> 00:49:52,206 "Look at you. 826 00:49:52,250 --> 00:49:55,601 "You see, you're a serious threat. How'd you get that size?" 827 00:49:55,644 --> 00:49:57,429 SALLY: First, he couldn't drive without getting pulled over, 828 00:49:57,472 --> 00:49:59,605 and then he kept scaling down. 829 00:49:59,648 --> 00:50:03,391 Bicycles. He still got pulled over for speeding on his bicycle? 830 00:50:05,654 --> 00:50:09,136 And I don't think it's easy to imagine what that's like. 831 00:50:09,180 --> 00:50:11,051 When you walk out your front door, 832 00:50:11,095 --> 00:50:12,879 you're automatically a threat. 833 00:50:14,663 --> 00:50:18,015 Mad is the black man that white America fears. 834 00:50:18,058 --> 00:50:20,930 And he's the... He's the image. 835 00:50:20,974 --> 00:50:24,282 NEWSCASTER: Venice Beach roller skaters are now skating on thin ice. 836 00:50:24,325 --> 00:50:27,067 At issue is this piece of pavement. 837 00:50:27,111 --> 00:50:30,201 The police say they need emergency access to the beach, 838 00:50:30,244 --> 00:50:31,898 and that this smooth piece of concrete, 839 00:50:31,941 --> 00:50:34,422 a haven to skaters for two decades, 840 00:50:34,466 --> 00:50:36,468 is one of the few routes to the sand. 841 00:50:36,511 --> 00:50:38,644 It's never been designated for that. 842 00:50:38,687 --> 00:50:41,734 They've never got a law or an ordinance passed for that reason. 843 00:50:41,777 --> 00:50:43,475 And they didn't do their homework. 844 00:50:43,518 --> 00:50:44,998 NEWSCASTER: An alternate spot has been offered, 845 00:50:45,042 --> 00:50:47,087 but it's slanted and flawed, 846 00:50:47,131 --> 00:50:49,437 and in the lingo of a skater, "cracked heels." 847 00:50:49,481 --> 00:50:51,135 We hesitate to call it racism, 848 00:50:51,178 --> 00:50:52,658 but we can't help but wonder 849 00:50:52,701 --> 00:50:55,313 why they're selectively enforcing it here. 850 00:50:55,356 --> 00:50:56,705 They have indicated to us in the past 851 00:50:56,749 --> 00:50:58,838 that it's because we attract "a certain element," 852 00:50:58,881 --> 00:51:01,797 which we all know what that's a code word for. 853 00:51:01,841 --> 00:51:05,627 MAD: They picked out who they wanted to be on the beach 854 00:51:05,671 --> 00:51:07,368 and who they didn't want to be on the beach. 855 00:51:07,412 --> 00:51:09,414 [PEOPLE CLAMORING] 856 00:51:11,546 --> 00:51:13,766 And then they end up finally figuring out 857 00:51:13,809 --> 00:51:16,160 that the only way they can really destroy us and get rid of us 858 00:51:16,203 --> 00:51:17,422 is to rip up the pavement. 859 00:51:33,481 --> 00:51:36,093 SALLY: That land under which we skated 860 00:51:36,136 --> 00:51:38,225 was sacred ground, as far as I'm concerned. 861 00:51:42,011 --> 00:51:44,710 And they just bring in bulldozers and rip it up. 862 00:51:48,801 --> 00:51:51,151 That's when the soul left Venice Beach. 863 00:52:04,033 --> 00:52:06,384 I'll be damned when it was good. 864 00:52:06,427 --> 00:52:08,995 I'm going with it. I can't do nothing else with it. 865 00:52:09,038 --> 00:52:10,039 Time for me to go. 866 00:52:28,754 --> 00:52:30,451 MAD: No more skating. 867 00:52:30,495 --> 00:52:32,714 I miss it, but I can't go back over there. 868 00:52:34,890 --> 00:52:37,502 MICHELLE: I think he misses skating a lot. 869 00:52:37,545 --> 00:52:39,721 He has such passion in what he does, and if he can't... 870 00:52:39,765 --> 00:52:41,419 That's why he's not skating now, 871 00:52:41,462 --> 00:52:43,334 it's because if he can't do it right, 872 00:52:43,377 --> 00:52:45,858 he doesn't wanna do it at all. 873 00:52:45,901 --> 00:52:48,687 Original Steel Horses jacket. 874 00:52:48,730 --> 00:52:52,212 Just about everybody in the club has one of these. 875 00:52:52,256 --> 00:52:55,955 RUSTY: He's my mentor, he's my mechanic, 876 00:52:55,998 --> 00:52:58,610 my personal trainer when I'm getting ready for races. 877 00:52:58,653 --> 00:52:59,828 He likes to teach if you wanna learn. 878 00:53:01,830 --> 00:53:03,180 [ENGINE REVVING] 879 00:53:07,836 --> 00:53:09,795 MICHELLE: I think, sometimes, he's trying to run away 880 00:53:09,838 --> 00:53:11,231 from all his past. 881 00:53:16,236 --> 00:53:18,717 James wakes up mad. 882 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,416 And it takes everything he has in the day 883 00:53:22,460 --> 00:53:24,766 to keep him from showing that side. 884 00:53:26,681 --> 00:53:28,988 WAITRESS: Your eggs. 885 00:53:29,031 --> 00:53:31,120 -You're kidding, right? -[WAITRESS LAUGHING] 886 00:53:31,164 --> 00:53:33,122 WAITRESS: You want your hamburger and your eggs on the side, no? 887 00:53:33,906 --> 00:53:35,037 I wanted two eggs. 888 00:53:36,343 --> 00:53:37,649 Yeah, but he wanted it separate. 889 00:53:37,692 --> 00:53:40,826 I wanted it separate. Two eggs separate. 890 00:53:40,869 --> 00:53:43,089 MICHELLE: I always call him "The Incredible Hulk" 891 00:53:43,132 --> 00:53:45,613 because he's one of those 892 00:53:45,657 --> 00:53:48,616 that when he gets mad, he can really get mad. 893 00:53:49,922 --> 00:53:52,403 Hey, homie. Dude. 894 00:53:52,446 --> 00:53:53,491 Tell her I don't want that burger. 895 00:53:55,057 --> 00:53:56,102 Didn't fix it right the first time. 896 00:53:56,145 --> 00:53:57,364 I don't need a second. 897 00:53:57,408 --> 00:53:58,670 [MICHELLE SPEAKING] 898 00:53:58,713 --> 00:54:00,237 Yeah, fuck me. 899 00:54:08,419 --> 00:54:11,335 LARRY: I couldn't skate in prison. 900 00:54:11,378 --> 00:54:15,295 But when I got back out, I was able to do everything. I remembered everything. 901 00:54:15,339 --> 00:54:17,428 But when I came down to the beach, 902 00:54:17,471 --> 00:54:20,605 all of a sudden, it's changed. 903 00:54:20,648 --> 00:54:22,302 It's not like it was 904 00:54:22,346 --> 00:54:25,653 because they've taken us away from where we were at. 905 00:54:25,697 --> 00:54:28,656 I said "Where's Mad?" "Oh, he don't come down there anymore." 906 00:54:28,700 --> 00:54:31,050 Everything was changed. Everything was different. 907 00:54:31,093 --> 00:54:32,356 And I was ticked off. 908 00:54:33,705 --> 00:54:36,011 And they, like, shoveled us off to the side, 909 00:54:36,055 --> 00:54:36,925 in a corner. 910 00:54:42,844 --> 00:54:44,063 We were totally invisible. 911 00:54:46,413 --> 00:54:49,938 SALLY: These days, the cops don't have to harass us anymore 912 00:54:49,982 --> 00:54:53,377 because we've been neutralized and marginalized. 913 00:54:53,420 --> 00:54:56,902 They've got us shunted off in that funky little area 914 00:54:56,945 --> 00:54:59,165 which has, coincidentally, 915 00:54:59,208 --> 00:55:02,299 become the hygiene-challenged homeless area. 916 00:55:04,388 --> 00:55:06,172 It's not what it used to be, 917 00:55:06,215 --> 00:55:09,349 back when Mad, Jimmy, Terrell, and I 918 00:55:09,393 --> 00:55:11,177 were down there doing our thing. 919 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,448 TERRELL: I think with Mad being gone, 920 00:55:21,492 --> 00:55:22,623 there was no real leader. 921 00:55:26,671 --> 00:55:28,847 SALLY: The skating scene's really gone. 922 00:55:28,890 --> 00:55:30,675 The heart and soul was being lost. 923 00:55:32,807 --> 00:55:35,375 TERRELL: So we need Mad back in Venice Beach to get that back. 924 00:55:40,685 --> 00:55:43,209 INTERVIEWER: If you ever went back to LA, 925 00:55:43,252 --> 00:55:44,645 ever went back to Venice, 926 00:55:44,689 --> 00:55:46,952 would you go back out to Venice 927 00:55:46,995 --> 00:55:49,607 and would you skate for old time's sake? 928 00:55:49,650 --> 00:55:51,870 If they brought it to that situation, I would. 929 00:55:54,829 --> 00:55:58,137 MAD: Utah is not the problem. It's what's in Utah. 930 00:55:58,180 --> 00:56:01,532 And they want you to be, like them, not be yourself. 931 00:56:03,621 --> 00:56:05,187 You can take a boy out of the hood, 932 00:56:05,231 --> 00:56:06,406 but you can't take the hood out of a boy. 933 00:56:06,450 --> 00:56:08,016 I mean, you're talking about Utah. 934 00:56:08,060 --> 00:56:10,671 That's Mormon country. I mean, there's snow up there. 935 00:56:10,715 --> 00:56:13,021 You know, I can even remember him telling me, 936 00:56:13,065 --> 00:56:15,110 "Man, I ain't never felt nothing like this before in my life." 937 00:56:15,154 --> 00:56:17,156 I'm like, "What?" He said it was cold. 938 00:56:17,199 --> 00:56:18,418 [LAUGHS] 939 00:56:20,028 --> 00:56:22,640 MAD: You visit the snow, it's lovely. 940 00:56:22,683 --> 00:56:24,772 You live in the snow, it ain't lovely. 941 00:56:25,556 --> 00:56:28,689 Utah was not a place for me. 942 00:56:32,606 --> 00:56:33,607 I needed to go home. 943 00:56:36,175 --> 00:56:38,569 [ENGINE REVVING] 944 00:56:53,975 --> 00:56:55,673 LARRY: I think Mad came back from Utah 945 00:56:55,716 --> 00:56:57,631 because it just... It wasn't him. 946 00:56:57,675 --> 00:56:59,459 He misses the beach. He misses... 947 00:56:59,503 --> 00:57:00,982 He misses everything that we used to do. 948 00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,870 What it feels like to be back? 949 00:57:18,913 --> 00:57:21,525 I don't like what I'm looking at. 950 00:57:21,568 --> 00:57:24,658 I'm looking at the new changes and trying to adapt to it, 951 00:57:24,702 --> 00:57:26,051 but there's really nothing to it. 952 00:57:26,094 --> 00:57:27,487 It's like a showboat place. 953 00:57:29,228 --> 00:57:31,056 Back in the day, 954 00:57:31,099 --> 00:57:34,494 I used to live right up there before it was Muscle Beach. 955 00:57:34,538 --> 00:57:35,756 It used to be just an apartment. 956 00:57:38,455 --> 00:57:39,891 None of this was out here. 957 00:57:42,676 --> 00:57:44,722 [WAVES SPLASHING] 958 00:57:45,940 --> 00:57:47,768 [CHATTERING INDISTINCTLY] 959 00:57:52,033 --> 00:57:54,819 LARRY: My whole way of thinking changed. Everything about me. 960 00:57:54,862 --> 00:57:56,603 No more drugs, no more drinking. 961 00:57:56,647 --> 00:57:59,171 I just work. That's it. 962 00:57:59,214 --> 00:58:02,522 I'm the appliance M.D., you know, I'm the doctor. 963 00:58:02,566 --> 00:58:04,785 I've been doing this now going on about ten years. 964 00:58:04,829 --> 00:58:07,527 Something that was given to me by a best friend of mine, D, 965 00:58:07,571 --> 00:58:09,137 another skater. 966 00:58:09,181 --> 00:58:10,312 Gave me a life. 967 00:58:14,578 --> 00:58:16,536 Venice today is commercialized. 968 00:58:18,712 --> 00:58:20,279 It's not what it used to be. 969 00:58:24,109 --> 00:58:26,241 It's changed a lot. 970 00:58:26,285 --> 00:58:28,069 To me, I wouldn't say for the better 971 00:58:28,113 --> 00:58:30,681 because it's... It's too preppy now. 972 00:58:30,724 --> 00:58:34,815 It's not family-oriented like it was when I grew up here back in the '60s. 973 00:58:36,251 --> 00:58:37,688 That's new. 974 00:58:37,731 --> 00:58:39,690 The house here is new. 975 00:58:39,733 --> 00:58:41,126 Another new home going up. 976 00:58:42,954 --> 00:58:45,478 Now, it's like everything is bought and sold in a week. 977 00:58:45,522 --> 00:58:47,262 Somebody come here, "I don't like it. Tear it down. 978 00:58:47,306 --> 00:58:49,047 "Throw something new up, you know, another box." 979 00:58:51,615 --> 00:58:54,269 This right here, they've changed everything. 980 00:58:54,313 --> 00:58:55,488 This is where I grew up as a kid. 981 00:58:55,532 --> 00:58:57,534 This spot right here. 982 00:58:57,577 --> 00:58:59,710 And my grandmother and grandfather lived right here up front, 983 00:58:59,753 --> 00:59:01,059 but all of this has changed. 984 00:59:01,102 --> 00:59:02,451 This is a tree we planted. 985 00:59:05,150 --> 00:59:07,979 It was cool growing up here. I really loved it. 986 00:59:08,022 --> 00:59:09,763 I mean, I love Venice right to this day. 987 00:59:09,807 --> 00:59:12,331 And if I hit the lotto, this thing's gonna come down 988 00:59:12,374 --> 00:59:13,811 'cause I'd give them what they want 989 00:59:13,854 --> 00:59:15,813 just to build the original house that I grew up in 990 00:59:15,856 --> 00:59:17,597 right here on this spot. 991 00:59:17,641 --> 00:59:19,773 I would love to have it. I really would. 992 00:59:23,603 --> 00:59:26,388 SALLY: I'm like a great American tragedy now. 993 00:59:26,432 --> 00:59:29,174 Enormous potential, and I'm living in a garage 994 00:59:29,217 --> 00:59:30,610 without a bathroom and a kitchen. 995 00:59:33,004 --> 00:59:36,747 I'm living on $740 a month. 996 00:59:39,358 --> 00:59:43,101 I have about $20 a week for food. 997 00:59:52,763 --> 00:59:54,460 I keep a smile on my face, 998 00:59:54,503 --> 00:59:57,245 but it's really humiliating to be this poor. 999 00:59:57,289 --> 01:00:00,422 It's really humiliating to never have money 1000 01:00:00,466 --> 01:00:02,773 and never be able to buy anything, never be able to do anything. 1001 01:00:20,312 --> 01:00:22,662 MICHELLE: The job that he's now doing, which is security, 1002 01:00:22,706 --> 01:00:24,795 Mad doesn't like to be micromanaged. 1003 01:00:26,710 --> 01:00:29,016 He's one of those who needs a job 1004 01:00:29,060 --> 01:00:31,410 that you tell him what to do, and he just goes and does it. 1005 01:00:38,678 --> 01:00:42,116 MAD: I'm working at an area I used to have fun at. 1006 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,902 I'm working at a beach I used to come down 1007 01:00:44,945 --> 01:00:46,991 and be known when everybody comes by. 1008 01:00:48,601 --> 01:00:49,907 "Mad!" 1009 01:00:51,299 --> 01:00:52,605 Yeah. 1010 01:00:53,650 --> 01:00:56,609 Do I like it? No, I do not. 1011 01:00:56,653 --> 01:00:59,917 I gotta pretend like I'm happy to see these people. 1012 01:01:02,006 --> 01:01:03,790 Every time I go apply for a job, 1013 01:01:03,834 --> 01:01:05,662 they ask you that one question right there, 1014 01:01:05,705 --> 01:01:07,185 "Have you ever been arrested?" 1015 01:01:07,620 --> 01:01:08,926 I'm stuck. 1016 01:01:11,755 --> 01:01:13,887 Am I a harsh criminal? No. 1017 01:01:15,149 --> 01:01:17,238 But in the eyes of the world, I am. 1018 01:01:20,154 --> 01:01:21,939 People are like, "What you crying about?" 1019 01:01:21,982 --> 01:01:23,462 "You won't believe what I went through 1020 01:01:23,505 --> 01:01:26,508 "just to get a couple of years of roller skating in." 1021 01:01:32,906 --> 01:01:34,908 TERRELL: Racism is actually worse today. 1022 01:01:34,952 --> 01:01:36,910 Before cameras and all of that stuff, 1023 01:01:36,954 --> 01:01:38,956 brothers were getting pulled over and... 1024 01:01:38,999 --> 01:01:40,653 I've been pulled over and handcuffed 1025 01:01:40,697 --> 01:01:42,916 and had to sit on a curb while they go through my car 1026 01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:46,354 at least 12, 15 times, for no reason, and they let you go. 1027 01:01:46,398 --> 01:01:47,312 "Okay, you don't have anything." 1028 01:01:47,355 --> 01:01:49,183 [CLAMORING] 1029 01:01:49,227 --> 01:01:50,576 But it has gotten worse 1030 01:01:50,619 --> 01:01:52,317 because it's gone from ass-kickings 1031 01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,449 to, like, unarmed shootings. 1032 01:01:54,493 --> 01:01:58,671 Now there's cameras and Twitter and Facebook, 1033 01:01:58,715 --> 01:02:01,152 and so people are filming it and posting it 1034 01:02:01,195 --> 01:02:02,980 before cops can even, like, say, 1035 01:02:03,023 --> 01:02:04,982 "Oh, no, we didn't do it." "Yeah, you did." 1036 01:02:05,025 --> 01:02:06,766 -[SIREN BLARING] -[SHOUTING INDISTINCTLY] 1037 01:02:06,810 --> 01:02:09,726 JIMMY: I don't hear of black-on-white crime as much, 1038 01:02:09,769 --> 01:02:12,990 but I do hear of police-on-people crime a lot. 1039 01:02:13,033 --> 01:02:14,774 To me, that's the racism. 1040 01:02:18,517 --> 01:02:19,997 [HELICOPTER HOVERING] 1041 01:02:22,173 --> 01:02:24,653 SALLY: Meanwhile, Venice has been gentrified 1042 01:02:24,697 --> 01:02:27,526 and ethnically cleansed of the positive black role models 1043 01:02:27,569 --> 01:02:30,485 that the skaters once were 1044 01:02:30,529 --> 01:02:35,752 so that, what I would call the terrified affluent, feel safer. 1045 01:02:38,145 --> 01:02:40,974 That's one of the many downsides of racism, 1046 01:02:41,018 --> 01:02:43,760 that it causes people to misjudge good people 1047 01:02:43,803 --> 01:02:46,458 or a whole neighborhood as bad 1048 01:02:46,501 --> 01:02:48,634 out of sheer brainwashed terror, 1049 01:02:48,677 --> 01:02:50,941 and they trust people that they shouldn't 1050 01:02:50,984 --> 01:02:52,899 just because they look a certain way. 1051 01:02:55,032 --> 01:02:59,906 It's a shame that America is still so plagued by racism, 1052 01:02:59,950 --> 01:03:01,516 but here we are. 1053 01:03:07,784 --> 01:03:10,395 [PEOPLE LAUGHING] 1054 01:03:10,438 --> 01:03:11,788 [CHATTERING INDISTINCTLY] 1055 01:03:14,486 --> 01:03:17,271 You don't have to go do this shit. 1056 01:03:17,315 --> 01:03:19,665 MAD: It was pretty shocking when Michelle had set up 1057 01:03:19,708 --> 01:03:22,102 a birthday for my 55th year. 1058 01:03:23,495 --> 01:03:26,193 The people that she had come to that party. 1059 01:03:26,237 --> 01:03:28,021 She has surprises all left and right, 1060 01:03:28,065 --> 01:03:30,023 and they walked in one at a time. 1061 01:03:30,067 --> 01:03:33,940 Just about everybody that came in came off that beach. 1062 01:03:33,984 --> 01:03:35,594 MAN: There you go. The 1980s. 1063 01:03:37,857 --> 01:03:39,903 TERRELL: Whenever we all get together, 1064 01:03:39,946 --> 01:03:43,036 it's nothing but, like, but just pure reminiscing and fun. 1065 01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:46,213 It just takes me back to those days. 1066 01:03:46,257 --> 01:03:47,780 LARRY: We started talking about skating and stuff. 1067 01:03:47,824 --> 01:03:49,216 I said "You gotta come out and skate." 1068 01:03:50,130 --> 01:03:52,611 [ALL LAUGHING] 1069 01:03:53,655 --> 01:03:54,831 Oh, my God. 1070 01:03:54,874 --> 01:03:57,485 Y'all know what I'm saying. 1071 01:03:57,529 --> 01:03:59,400 I'm not going to show this to nobody. 1072 01:03:59,444 --> 01:04:01,794 They already said, before and after. 1073 01:04:01,838 --> 01:04:03,970 MAD: It hit me like a ton of bricks 1074 01:04:04,014 --> 01:04:05,798 'cause all I'm thinking about is 1075 01:04:07,017 --> 01:04:10,281 how it's been invigorating, 1076 01:04:11,543 --> 01:04:12,849 a tight turn, 1077 01:04:14,807 --> 01:04:16,069 slow motion. 1078 01:04:18,245 --> 01:04:19,725 Hitting that split. 1079 01:04:20,857 --> 01:04:22,423 I cannot do that now. 1080 01:04:24,338 --> 01:04:26,863 People I haven't seen in a while, thanks for coming out. 1081 01:04:28,299 --> 01:04:29,343 Damn. 1082 01:04:43,749 --> 01:04:45,098 Elvis, want some? 1083 01:04:48,885 --> 01:04:50,060 Don't tell the other ones. 1084 01:04:53,585 --> 01:04:56,849 I can't keep nothing around if they can't do what it used to do. 1085 01:04:56,893 --> 01:05:00,331 Michelle is more, like, you wanna keep 'em till they disintegrate. 1086 01:05:00,374 --> 01:05:02,507 But, basically, when they get old, 1087 01:05:02,550 --> 01:05:03,987 it's time for me to get rid of them 1088 01:05:04,030 --> 01:05:05,249 because I ain't into that nursing. 1089 01:05:05,292 --> 01:05:07,686 You can't get up, you can't sit down, 1090 01:05:07,729 --> 01:05:09,209 to me, you're done. 1091 01:05:10,776 --> 01:05:13,344 Come on. 1092 01:05:13,387 --> 01:05:15,520 MICHELLE: I would love to see him skate again, 1093 01:05:15,563 --> 01:05:19,176 but I don't think, physically, he's capable of doing that. 1094 01:05:20,525 --> 01:05:24,137 He had a huge stroke in 2009. 1095 01:05:25,660 --> 01:05:27,706 It messed up his equilibrium. 1096 01:05:28,359 --> 01:05:30,491 So, the problem is, 1097 01:05:30,535 --> 01:05:32,276 the turns and things like that, 1098 01:05:32,319 --> 01:05:33,886 throw him totally off balance. 1099 01:05:34,974 --> 01:05:38,325 With skating, he is a perfectionist. 1100 01:05:38,369 --> 01:05:40,371 If he can't do it right, he doesn't wanna do it at all. 1101 01:05:45,637 --> 01:05:47,639 Once I'm sitting down, I'm cool. 1102 01:05:47,682 --> 01:05:50,033 When I'm standing up, that's somewhat of a problem. 1103 01:05:50,076 --> 01:05:52,078 All right. 1104 01:05:52,122 --> 01:05:53,514 LARRY: He's getting a lot older now. 1105 01:05:53,558 --> 01:05:55,821 He can't do the same things he used to. 1106 01:05:55,864 --> 01:05:58,302 I mean, if you looked at the before and afters of him, 1107 01:05:58,345 --> 01:06:00,173 and I'm talking about somebody that could skate, 1108 01:06:00,217 --> 01:06:01,609 oh, yeah. 1109 01:06:01,653 --> 01:06:03,437 I mean... 1110 01:06:03,481 --> 01:06:07,746 And if he can't do it the way he used to, he's not gonna touch it. 1111 01:06:10,227 --> 01:06:12,098 MAD: This is my roller skating bag. 1112 01:06:13,012 --> 01:06:16,581 Those skates are the new ones. 1113 01:06:16,624 --> 01:06:18,148 Why the heel? 1114 01:06:18,191 --> 01:06:19,584 -They all come with it. -I thought they come flat. 1115 01:06:19,627 --> 01:06:22,282 -Oh, they don't. -This is like a dancing shoe. 1116 01:06:22,326 --> 01:06:24,458 -Disco dancing. -No. 1117 01:06:24,502 --> 01:06:26,373 You don't know anything about roller skating. 1118 01:06:26,417 --> 01:06:28,549 -I don't. -I might put them back on. 1119 01:06:30,073 --> 01:06:32,249 And I think about it a lot, but... 1120 01:06:40,474 --> 01:06:42,433 MAD: Thought it was a joke. 1121 01:06:42,476 --> 01:06:44,348 I'm like, "Really? Are you kidding?" 1122 01:06:44,391 --> 01:06:46,263 All I gotta do is just be there. 1123 01:06:46,872 --> 01:06:48,352 I'm like, "Why not?" 1124 01:06:51,050 --> 01:06:52,486 MAD: I need my hush stretched. 1125 01:06:57,839 --> 01:07:00,581 Gotta be like Michael Jordan in that last shot. 1126 01:07:00,625 --> 01:07:02,496 That's the only thing they remember. 1127 01:07:02,540 --> 01:07:05,891 The last shot went in and won that series with it. 1128 01:07:05,934 --> 01:07:09,721 And for me to put them things on and do that... 1129 01:07:09,764 --> 01:07:13,420 Just to talk about it all day long cannot do that. 1130 01:07:13,464 --> 01:07:16,336 SALLY: I'd like to see us all out there 1131 01:07:16,380 --> 01:07:19,035 skating to those really dynamic, 1132 01:07:19,078 --> 01:07:21,211 you know, funky '80s tunes 1133 01:07:23,648 --> 01:07:26,216 where that bass just makes you grind your heart out, 1134 01:07:31,917 --> 01:07:38,054 and remind people what life can be like when it's authentic. 1135 01:07:48,803 --> 01:07:50,762 I could just hear it now, you know. 1136 01:07:50,805 --> 01:07:53,243 Mad's like, "Five, six, seven, eight." 1137 01:07:53,286 --> 01:07:54,940 And there it would be, you know. 1138 01:07:57,682 --> 01:07:59,336 [CHATTERING INDISTINCTLY] 1139 01:08:10,956 --> 01:08:12,305 DUVAL: Once Mad come out here, 1140 01:08:12,349 --> 01:08:14,525 he'll pretty much bring us back. 1141 01:08:14,568 --> 01:08:17,658 Problem is, with all the old school gang out here. 1142 01:08:17,702 --> 01:08:19,965 You're gonna see some dramatic changes. 1143 01:08:20,008 --> 01:08:21,488 [FUNK MUSIC PLAYING] 1144 01:08:26,667 --> 01:08:28,191 HOST: Venice Beach, hands up! 1145 01:08:28,234 --> 01:08:30,758 Let me hear you make some noise! 1146 01:08:30,802 --> 01:08:33,021 [CROWD CHEERING] 1147 01:08:33,065 --> 01:08:36,199 We have a lot of things we've been doing over the last 30-plus years. 1148 01:08:36,242 --> 01:08:40,072 We've been doing line dances, we've been doing choreography, 1149 01:08:40,116 --> 01:08:44,511 so we genuinely appreciate you for coming out and hanging out with us. 1150 01:08:44,555 --> 01:08:46,818 We got Larry right here, folks. 1151 01:08:46,861 --> 01:08:48,515 Larry is one of the OGs. 1152 01:08:48,559 --> 01:08:51,039 He's one of the guys that started line dancing. 1153 01:08:51,083 --> 01:08:53,129 We got Duval, Superman in the house. 1154 01:08:53,172 --> 01:08:55,392 [CROWD CHEERING] 1155 01:08:55,435 --> 01:09:00,832 There's a reason that we have what is now called skate dance plaza. 1156 01:09:00,875 --> 01:09:03,704 We fought for it, folks. We all went to city hall. 1157 01:09:03,748 --> 01:09:05,271 We fought with the police, folks. 1158 01:09:05,315 --> 01:09:06,316 All the time. 1159 01:09:09,014 --> 01:09:10,711 Who wants to just dance, folks? 1160 01:09:10,755 --> 01:09:12,757 Who wants to follow this man right here, folks? 1161 01:09:15,020 --> 01:09:17,718 We wanted to follow Mad, folks. 1162 01:09:17,762 --> 01:09:19,851 This is the man who started the craze. 1163 01:09:20,982 --> 01:09:23,246 One, two, three, give it to him! 1164 01:09:23,289 --> 01:09:24,812 [CROWD CHEERING] 1165 01:09:31,819 --> 01:09:33,386 Play the music, Maestro. 1166 01:09:35,258 --> 01:09:38,261 Everybody who knows what's called a line dance, 1167 01:09:38,304 --> 01:09:41,786 he's the very first person I ever danced with. He taught me all this. 1168 01:09:42,569 --> 01:09:44,484 [ NASTY ROCKPLAYING] 1169 01:09:58,324 --> 01:09:59,673 MAD: When them songs came on, 1170 01:09:59,717 --> 01:10:01,414 I didn't know how to react to that. 1171 01:10:01,458 --> 01:10:03,634 I mean, that fucked with me real bad. 1172 01:10:03,677 --> 01:10:07,855 And I had to turn around and face these people and put on a show. 1173 01:10:10,597 --> 01:10:14,384 In my mind, I was doing this, this, and this, and this. 1174 01:10:14,427 --> 01:10:15,994 But I'm standing there. 1175 01:10:21,608 --> 01:10:25,525 I said, "I can't. I can't. I need to leave." 1176 01:10:41,672 --> 01:10:42,803 Come on, y'all. 1177 01:10:45,806 --> 01:10:50,028 All of a sudden, my energy level went low. 1178 01:10:50,071 --> 01:10:51,247 Very low. 1179 01:10:54,162 --> 01:10:55,860 I just turned around. 1180 01:10:56,687 --> 01:10:58,079 "You guys go ahead." 1181 01:10:59,298 --> 01:11:01,126 "It's your show now, not mine." 1182 01:11:13,443 --> 01:11:16,141 Hit me real hard, what I can't do. 1183 01:11:16,184 --> 01:11:17,664 This is hurt. 1184 01:11:21,102 --> 01:11:24,018 And I never did roller skating when it hurt. 1185 01:11:24,062 --> 01:11:27,370 Like, deep down, up in here, this shit really hurts. 1186 01:11:43,386 --> 01:11:44,474 [SNIFFLES] 1187 01:11:53,918 --> 01:11:56,964 Saying to myself the whole time, "This is it." 1188 01:11:59,924 --> 01:12:03,101 I was eager when it was fun. It's not fun no more. 1189 01:12:06,626 --> 01:12:09,499 Look at how easy it is for everybody else to do it. 1190 01:12:16,767 --> 01:12:18,725 And you wonder why I don't come back. 1191 01:12:38,832 --> 01:12:40,747 JIMMY: I don't know what I would do without Mad. 1192 01:12:40,791 --> 01:12:42,575 I don't know where I would have been 1193 01:12:42,619 --> 01:12:43,707 if Mad hadn't been there for me. 1194 01:12:45,186 --> 01:12:46,884 The heart of Venice right here. 1195 01:12:46,927 --> 01:12:48,712 The heart of skating right here. 1196 01:12:50,975 --> 01:12:54,239 JIMMY: Thirty-five years later, I still can't wait for the weekend. 1197 01:12:54,282 --> 01:12:56,067 You can call Venice our Never Never Land. 1198 01:12:57,242 --> 01:12:59,375 We never grew up. 1199 01:12:59,418 --> 01:13:01,377 We're the Peter Pans of Venice. 1200 01:13:07,208 --> 01:13:09,080 TERRELL: Skating kept me out of trouble. 1201 01:13:11,343 --> 01:13:13,780 That's one thing Mad told me, like, always try to be the best. 1202 01:13:13,824 --> 01:13:16,000 So when it became time for me to be a dad, 1203 01:13:16,043 --> 01:13:17,697 even though I was young and kinda scared, 1204 01:13:17,741 --> 01:13:20,004 and not knowing what the hell I was doing, 1205 01:13:20,047 --> 01:13:21,614 I still wanted to be a good dad. 1206 01:13:23,094 --> 01:13:27,403 So, skating gave me a career and a life and a direction. 1207 01:13:28,491 --> 01:13:30,580 I signed with the agency, 1208 01:13:30,623 --> 01:13:33,321 I believe, three weeks after my daughter was born. 1209 01:13:33,365 --> 01:13:35,715 We got iPod, and then there was Mountain Dew. 1210 01:13:36,847 --> 01:13:40,328 It put my daughter through school. 1211 01:13:40,372 --> 01:13:44,507 My daughter graduated from college in three years. Ivy League School. 1212 01:13:44,550 --> 01:13:46,726 My son is at Indiana University. 1213 01:13:48,815 --> 01:13:50,426 Venice raised me. 1214 01:13:51,514 --> 01:13:52,993 It made me the man that I am. 1215 01:13:54,647 --> 01:13:56,649 Venice is what taught me real skating. 1216 01:14:01,132 --> 01:14:03,439 LARRY: Some people may think that the dream is dead. 1217 01:14:03,482 --> 01:14:06,485 To me, it's, nah, it hasn't gone anywhere. It's still here. 1218 01:14:06,529 --> 01:14:08,835 And as long as it remains here, it'll never die. 1219 01:14:11,664 --> 01:14:15,755 I can always replay it over and over and over and over and over again. 1220 01:14:17,583 --> 01:14:19,106 So it's not gonna leave me. 1221 01:14:20,543 --> 01:14:22,022 It's a part of me, and I love it. 1222 01:14:24,242 --> 01:14:26,462 SALLY: You know, I think part of our connection 1223 01:14:26,505 --> 01:14:29,639 is we both have enormous amount of pride, probably to our detriment. 1224 01:14:29,682 --> 01:14:34,295 We think of ourselves as being very strong and very physically fit. 1225 01:14:34,339 --> 01:14:36,863 I mean, shoot, I'm 61. 1226 01:14:36,907 --> 01:14:39,779 You know, I've got arthritis, cancer, ripped cartilage. 1227 01:14:39,823 --> 01:14:41,868 All my joints are bone-on-bone now. 1228 01:14:41,912 --> 01:14:43,479 I'm still skating 'cause I love it that much. 1229 01:14:46,525 --> 01:14:48,832 Skating is still the greatest joy in my life. 1230 01:14:50,964 --> 01:14:52,705 It gives you so much joy 1231 01:14:52,749 --> 01:14:55,360 that even excruciating physical pain is like... 1232 01:14:55,403 --> 01:14:56,492 "I don't care." 1233 01:15:00,408 --> 01:15:04,151 I feel so grateful that I happened to be 1234 01:15:04,195 --> 01:15:07,285 in Venice Beach at that particular time in history, 1235 01:15:07,328 --> 01:15:09,069 and to be a part of that scene 1236 01:15:09,113 --> 01:15:11,332 because there'll never be anything like it ever again. 1237 01:15:11,376 --> 01:15:12,246 It's just incredible. 1238 01:15:16,947 --> 01:15:18,383 And there they are. 1239 01:15:19,732 --> 01:15:21,517 They're precious. 1240 01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:23,562 If anything happened to these, 1241 01:15:23,606 --> 01:15:25,259 oh, my God, what would I do? 1242 01:15:25,303 --> 01:15:26,826 I couldn't replace them. I'd die. 1243 01:15:30,613 --> 01:15:33,093 DUVAL: Skating, to me, is like breathing. 1244 01:15:33,137 --> 01:15:35,705 And I'll be like a fish out of water. 1245 01:15:36,532 --> 01:15:38,316 Superman without the sky. 1246 01:15:44,322 --> 01:15:46,367 SALLY: Roller skaters are family. 1247 01:15:46,411 --> 01:15:50,720 I'll always feel connected to all my Venice Beach peeps, you know. 1248 01:15:50,763 --> 01:15:52,417 [ALL CLAMORING] 1249 01:15:52,460 --> 01:15:53,200 [CAMERA CLICKS] 1250 01:16:09,652 --> 01:16:14,570 MICHELLE: There's no way to explain the way Venice Beach was 20 years ago. 1251 01:16:17,094 --> 01:16:20,967 There's not the same aura about the whole entire area. 1252 01:16:26,233 --> 01:16:28,975 He misses what it was, not what it is now. 1253 01:16:32,022 --> 01:16:34,633 Because of the police and the music, 1254 01:16:34,677 --> 01:16:36,330 it can never be like it was. 1255 01:16:39,029 --> 01:16:41,074 SALLY: But I still have this dream 1256 01:16:41,118 --> 01:16:44,382 that he'll put his skates on again 1257 01:16:44,425 --> 01:16:47,037 and I'll be skating somewhere, 1258 01:16:48,821 --> 01:16:50,954 and he'll just jump in there. 1259 01:16:50,997 --> 01:16:53,434 And for those few moments, 1260 01:16:54,697 --> 01:16:57,395 we'll be what we always knew we could be, 1261 01:16:58,222 --> 01:16:59,440 just phenomenal. 1262 01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:02,443 MAD: I still dream about it. 1263 01:17:07,797 --> 01:17:09,929 I dream about it every day. 1264 01:17:26,642 --> 01:17:28,121 Would you like to be filmed? 1265 01:17:28,165 --> 01:17:31,168 [ ONCE IN A LIFETIMEPLAYING] 93268

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