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LARRY: Venice is,
do what you wanna do,
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be who you wanna be.
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JIMMY: Roller dancing
is my escape.
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It's a part of me.
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SALLY: When we skate,
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it's the only time
when you're free.
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DUVAL: Roller skating made
Venice Beach what it is today.
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A lot of people don't
wanna give us that credit.
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[FUNK MUSIC PLAYING]
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Welcome to Venice, California.
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We're live at the beach.
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LARRY: When we
started skating,
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we would have literally
rolls and rolls of people
just watching us skate.
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It was something nobody
had ever seen before.
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They've seen
people roller skate,
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but they didn't see
anybody dance.
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We lived and breathed skating.
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I mean, we slept
with our skates on.
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When I was just
a little kid,
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skating around with
all these adults
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and half-naked women,
and it worked for me.
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They called us
"street skaters".
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Meaning that we don't
have any formal training.
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Our practice is performing.
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A lot of the technical skaters
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that do, like,
the competitions,
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they have to do
the axels and the lutzes.
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Their moves are
already pre-programmed,
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and I don't like
pre-programmed.
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I like to have my shit
organic and natural.
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We would get out there,
like, 12:00 in the daytime.
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We'd leave at, like,
8:00 at night.
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I used to get cramps
at like 2:00 or 3:00
in the morning from skating.
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SALLY: You just had
the most wonderful
black culture
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in all these
different forms.
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Everybody was there to skate.
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Everybody was there
to enjoy the music.
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It was a black beach
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which, you know,
in a city, that never
existed anywhere else.
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I just loved it
because it's where
I felt like I belonged.
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I couldn't really relate
to a white beach scene.
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I was about
black urban culture,
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but for once, not being
confined to the ghetto.
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We get to enjoy the beach.
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We get to be in the sunshine,
having fun.
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It was pretty much
black people from
the inner city
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who've come out to the beach.
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And that's what was great
about Venice Beach.
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LARRY: There was a lot
of songs that we skated to,
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but our theme song
was Prince's songKiss.
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[ KISSPLAYING]
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[FUNK MUSIC PLAYING]
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JIMMY: It was just
like a party.
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The more people
that were there,
the more hyped we got.
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[CROWD CHEERING]
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People were going,
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"Wow, they're not
just skating,
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"their choreography
is incredible.
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"They're all in sync."
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I really got a kick
out of performing.
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I hadn't been around
this kind of atmosphere.
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I hadn't had
that kind of attention.
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[FUNK MUSIC PLAYING]
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DUVAL: When we got
300,000 to 400,000 people
on a weekend
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coming down to Venice
from all over the world,
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we turned out to be
Venice Beach celebrities.
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MAD: All of a sudden,
this phenomenon starts
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picking up real fast.
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LARRY: All of a sudden,
Venice Beach was on the map.
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We definitely were
rock stars down there.
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TERRELL: Our crowds,
because of the music,
because of the people,
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they would literally
sit there for hours.
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But we're not asking you
to put money in a bucket.
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Maybe your phone number,
but not money.
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SALLY: The girls out here
were practically groupies
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that'd be like
falling over themselves
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wanting to get to the guys.
[CHUCKLES]
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[CROWD CHEERING]
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About 10:00 to 5:00.
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That's the best time.
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[CHUCKLES]
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DUVAL:
The ambiance out there,
the applause,
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you know,
the cheering out there.
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The more we got,
the better we became.
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[CROWD CHEERING]
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Everybody from
around the world
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come out there to see us.
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Oh, we were rock gods.
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We were the ones
on Mt. Olympus.
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TERRELL: Back in the day
for blacks,
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there were only certain places
that you could live.
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South Central,
Watts, and so on.
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It was very segregated.
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So, this was
the only beach area
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where blacks and Mexicans
were allowed to live.
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LARRY: And this is
the place, Oakwood,
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that's where it all
started out for me.
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My roots.
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Oakwood was different
when I was a kid.
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It's full of black families.
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Black people have lived there
since 1905.
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In fact, the canals
of Venice were built
by black people.
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TERRELL: No one really
wanted to be in Venice.
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It was the slum
by the sea.
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[FUNK MUSIC PLAYING]
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So, Venice, even though it was
born out of segregation,
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it would've never had
the culture or the flavor
that it has now.
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It's an artist place where
everybody can be free
to do what they want.
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It made Venice
into a Beatnik,
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kind of a Bohemian
type of place.
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It was the wild wild west.
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You can be yourself,
you can be crazy.
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Whoo!
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We got our own area.
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It was this winding
snake-like place,
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but the concrete was smooth,
it was level.
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We could blast the music.
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People could watch us
from both sides.
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And that became disco alley.
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[CROWD APPLAUDING]
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JIMMY: OG means
you're original.
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These are the people
that started this,
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the first ones
that made it popular.
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OG really means
"Original Gangster".
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Me, Sally, Larry,
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Duval, Terrell, Mad.
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We were a family.
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TERRELL: Everybody has
their own flow,
their own style.
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And that's what makes it hot.
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[FUNK MUSIC PLAYING]
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My style is kind of
a fusion of hip-hop,
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skating and break dancing.
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LARRY: Terrell's style,
arrogant, show-off,
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very good.
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JIMMY: Terrell was somebody
that was always
an entertainer.
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He's a great dancer.
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He feeds off of attention.
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You're smooth with him.
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It'd feel like a part
of your body, period.
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JIMMY: Larry's style is a lot
of movement with the skates
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with crisscrossing
of the wheels
and really fancy feet.
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TERRELL: Larry is the Swiss
pocket knife of skaters.
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He can do a little bit
of everything.
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You can be so graceful,
and it's so much fun,
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and it's just like
sex on wheels.
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It's freedom.
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JIMMY: Sally was smooth.
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She glides on her skates.
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And she would get
into her own world.
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You would see
her eyes would shut.
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You would be like,
"She's gone."
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TERRELL: She's got
the long legs,
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booty sticking out.
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She's graceful, elegant.
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She's the Cadillac
of us skaters.
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My style,
they called me "buck wild",
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'cause I get
really crazy on the skates.
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I'm almost gonna fall,
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and if I do fall,
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I started learning how
to actually make that
into a move.
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TERRELL: Jimmy's style
is what we call
"organized confusion".
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He's the perfect
skating tornado.
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'Cause I do
the crazy legs
like no other.
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I put my heart
and soul into it.
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JIMMY: Duval's style
is out there.
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He was different.
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TERRELL: And he wore
the big baggy pants
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with the cowboy boots.
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The Superman logo
and all his cartoon
characters that he drew.
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LARRY: He brought
a free spirit there.
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Always had that
crazy smile on his face.
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DUVAL: Uh, I came up
with what was called
the Pinocchio Theory.
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I have no strings
to hold me up,
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to hold me back
or to hold me down.
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That particular move
became now known
as "The Matrix".
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I wanna say something
to the Wachowskis,
"Where's my royalty check?"
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because I did that move
before the movie
even came out.
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[CHUCKLES]
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LARRY: Who helped to take
the line dance off
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was the guy known as Mad.
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TERRELL: Mad was our leader.
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He's like the godfather
of skating.
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SALLY: He was the king
of the skate world.
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When I first saw Mad,
I couldn't stand him,
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you know,
because of the look.
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You know, that's just like...
It's his look, you know.
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JIMMY: Mad was strength.
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He was chiseled.
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Six-pack.
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He looked like a cobra.
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SALLY: He's what
Mr. T wants to be.
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He's what
Arnold Schwarzenegger
wishes he was.
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They're not it, he's it.
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And he kinda, you know,
at first, was like,
"Who are you?" you know,
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"What's your name?"
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And I was like, "I'm Jimmy."
and he's like,
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"Stay out the way."
You know?
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When I would watch him
and see what he could do,
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I was like, "Hmm,
dude got some skills."
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[RETRO DANCE MUSIC PLAYING]
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TERRELL: Mad, at his best,
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is like a bull
in a China shop,
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except for he doesn't
knock down any of the China.
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SALLY: It's poetry in motion.
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I mean, the way he moved,
it's just like incredible
liquid poetry.
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JIMMY: I was in awe of Mad.
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It looked effortless
when you saw him skate.
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[FUNK MUSIC PLAYING]
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JIMMY: Mad was
a great mentor to us
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because he made sure
you got it right.
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"Do it again.
No, do it again.
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"That ain't right.
Do it again."
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He motivated you to be good.
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TERRELL: Every time
I would come out,
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"You brought your little ass
back out here again?
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"Come on, you might as well
learn how to skate
with feet this big.
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"Come on over here."
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So he would tease me
about that.
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He would show me a move,
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then he grabbed
all over my shirt
and have me like...
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And I'm like, "Get off."
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My mom would be like,
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"Why are your shirts always
so wrinkled in the shoulder
when you get home?"
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I'm like, "Oh, that's Mad."
"Who is this Mad?"
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"He's like my big brother,
I guess." kind of thing.
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LARRY: Everybody idolized him.
I did.
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Everybody tried
to mimic Mad's style.
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The boombox
we had out there
that Mad built,
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it was our lifeline.
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It was the beat
of Venice Beach.
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TERRELL: Mad was the one
that called out the line-up,
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so what he said, we did.
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It was just steps
and you just learn the step.
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Or you don't have to,
but, I mean, then you'd
be off by yourself.
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If you wanna be part
of the group, you had
to learn the step.
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He'd be at a party
one night, dancing, like,
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"Wait a minute.
I'mma put that
in a routine."
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and then, boom.
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[RADIO SCREECHING]
243
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[FUNK MUSIC PLAYING]
244
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LARRY: Mad is a kid at heart,
as well as I.
245
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We watched cartoons.
246
00:15:11,519 --> 00:15:13,956
So Mad basically
took certain steps
247
00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,610
and named them after cartoons.
248
00:15:15,653 --> 00:15:17,177
They were basically
the Transformers.
249
00:15:21,790 --> 00:15:25,925
It was like, Omega Supreme,
Optimus Prime, Dinobots.
250
00:15:25,968 --> 00:15:27,143
That was Mad's thing.
251
00:15:33,062 --> 00:15:34,629
JIMMY: Mad was everything.
252
00:15:36,326 --> 00:15:38,894
SALLY: I don't know.
I think of him like a lion.
253
00:15:41,592 --> 00:15:43,116
Head of the pride.
254
00:15:44,987 --> 00:15:46,902
JIMMY: So when Mad
stopped skating,
255
00:15:46,946 --> 00:15:48,164
we lost a leader.
256
00:15:49,383 --> 00:15:51,385
He's more into
his motorcycles now.
257
00:15:51,428 --> 00:15:53,169
He traded eight wheels
in for two.
258
00:15:55,476 --> 00:15:56,999
LARRY: It just changed.
259
00:15:57,043 --> 00:15:59,088
Everything changed down there.
260
00:15:59,132 --> 00:16:00,611
They took my beats
away from me.
261
00:16:02,222 --> 00:16:03,963
SALLY: We didn't
see this coming.
262
00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,576
MAD: The roller dream
out there was taken away.
263
00:16:10,230 --> 00:16:12,188
It didn't fade, it was taken.
264
00:16:19,195 --> 00:16:21,371
NEWSCASTER 1:
A riot zone it was.
265
00:16:21,415 --> 00:16:26,594
The worst riot
in the history
of Los Angeles County.
266
00:16:26,637 --> 00:16:29,684
NEWSCASTER 2: Six days
of rioting in a negro
section of Los Angeles
267
00:16:29,727 --> 00:16:33,427
left behind scenes
reminiscent of
war-torn cities.
268
00:16:33,470 --> 00:16:37,170
NEWSCASTER: More than 100
square blocks were decimated
by fire and looters,
269
00:16:37,213 --> 00:16:38,998
and few buildings
were left in-tact.
270
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[SIREN WAILING]
271
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Brought up in Watts.
272
00:17:09,463 --> 00:17:11,682
The Watts riot,
I was ten years old.
273
00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,513
Black people have
been under stress
274
00:17:16,557 --> 00:17:20,691
and false accusations
just by being black.
275
00:17:20,735 --> 00:17:23,042
White man was
basically in charge.
276
00:17:25,218 --> 00:17:30,005
The Watts riot started
with a police officer
disrespecting a black youth.
277
00:17:31,789 --> 00:17:35,228
When the mob came out,
a police officer,
278
00:17:35,271 --> 00:17:36,664
he did something
he shouldn't have done.
279
00:17:44,019 --> 00:17:46,630
It was all white businesses
in an all black neighborhood.
280
00:17:49,155 --> 00:17:52,332
Every business in Watts
that don't belong there,
281
00:17:53,202 --> 00:17:54,421
they just got burned out.
282
00:17:59,730 --> 00:18:02,342
Right down there,
the whole street
on both sides.
283
00:18:10,045 --> 00:18:11,655
Martial law showed up.
284
00:18:17,008 --> 00:18:19,141
Military showed up.
285
00:18:19,185 --> 00:18:22,188
Anything caught outside
after 10:00,
286
00:18:22,231 --> 00:18:23,928
don't arrest it, shoot it.
287
00:18:40,641 --> 00:18:45,167
For a person like me
to witness something
like that,
288
00:18:45,211 --> 00:18:47,213
it's some hard shit
to swallow.
289
00:18:47,256 --> 00:18:49,258
It was very nerve-racking
290
00:18:49,302 --> 00:18:53,393
to a point where
you look at things
and what you're going through,
291
00:18:53,436 --> 00:18:56,744
how the world really is,
and it ain't what you think.
292
00:19:02,184 --> 00:19:04,534
This is the street
I was brought up on.
293
00:19:04,578 --> 00:19:07,015
This house right here,
we lived in the back.
294
00:19:07,058 --> 00:19:08,364
Five of us lived
in this house.
295
00:19:19,549 --> 00:19:22,161
All the nightmares
and everything,
296
00:19:22,204 --> 00:19:24,163
it happened here.
This is where
it started at.
297
00:19:27,644 --> 00:19:29,385
I didn't have a childhood.
298
00:19:29,429 --> 00:19:32,475
In the family,
there was no love.
There was no understanding.
299
00:19:34,651 --> 00:19:36,131
Didn't have a dad,
300
00:19:36,175 --> 00:19:38,394
but my mom had to be
the man of the house.
301
00:19:39,656 --> 00:19:41,876
SALLY: Mad grew up
in a very abusive home.
302
00:19:44,487 --> 00:19:46,054
Whatever problems
his mother was having,
303
00:19:46,097 --> 00:19:48,056
she tended
to take out on him.
304
00:19:50,711 --> 00:19:54,149
Spent the majority of my time
in closets, hiding from her
305
00:19:54,193 --> 00:19:57,805
because when she came home,
306
00:19:57,848 --> 00:20:01,243
we were basically waking up
2:00 or 3:00 in the morning,
307
00:20:01,287 --> 00:20:02,636
getting damn near
beat to death.
308
00:20:04,072 --> 00:20:05,552
And I didn't understand that.
309
00:20:15,779 --> 00:20:17,738
No matter if you was
a kid or not,
310
00:20:17,781 --> 00:20:20,262
long as you was colored
you couldn't be trusted.
311
00:20:21,785 --> 00:20:24,353
When we saw the police,
first thing we did was...
312
00:20:24,397 --> 00:20:25,746
"We out here."
313
00:20:25,789 --> 00:20:27,400
When they caught us,
"Why you running?"
314
00:20:27,443 --> 00:20:29,097
"You the police."
315
00:20:29,140 --> 00:20:32,143
"What that gotta do with it?"
"You the police."
316
00:20:32,187 --> 00:20:35,538
This is like a hand-me-down
from generations.
317
00:20:35,582 --> 00:20:37,932
"See the police? Run."
318
00:20:37,975 --> 00:20:41,283
And when you're brought up
around something like that,
319
00:20:41,327 --> 00:20:42,806
you know,
you never lose it.
320
00:20:46,897 --> 00:20:49,900
Then one day, I decided
to go to Venice.
321
00:20:50,945 --> 00:20:52,642
I just saw a guy out there
322
00:20:52,686 --> 00:20:55,210
who just was skating
to a transistor radio.
323
00:20:55,254 --> 00:20:57,299
When I got bored enough,
324
00:20:57,343 --> 00:20:59,432
I started asking him,
"What was that?"
325
00:21:01,303 --> 00:21:04,088
Got me a set of skates
to put that ball
under the foot,
326
00:21:04,132 --> 00:21:06,482
took that toe stop off
and I got busy.
327
00:21:08,484 --> 00:21:11,052
Skating basically meant
the world to me
328
00:21:11,095 --> 00:21:14,316
because of what I wanted
to do with it, for me.
329
00:21:14,360 --> 00:21:17,885
I didn't just wanna
do the routine,
330
00:21:17,928 --> 00:21:19,930
I wanted to be the routine.
331
00:21:23,238 --> 00:21:26,372
SALLY: So Venice was his
escape from all that.
332
00:21:27,895 --> 00:21:29,984
Venice was his playground.
333
00:21:30,027 --> 00:21:32,639
It was the one place
he could go to express
himself and be free.
334
00:21:36,730 --> 00:21:39,907
He was channeling all
that pain into his skating
335
00:21:39,950 --> 00:21:42,649
and he turned all that pain
into something
really beautiful.
336
00:21:48,263 --> 00:21:51,527
Not having a childhood,
this is gonna be mine.
337
00:21:51,571 --> 00:21:53,747
And I told myself,
338
00:21:53,790 --> 00:21:56,880
"Nobody out here
is gonna rain on my parade."
339
00:22:00,667 --> 00:22:03,757
It's so hard
to fully explain
340
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,107
my resonance with
African-American culture.
341
00:22:06,150 --> 00:22:09,066
I'm Middle Eastern,
342
00:22:09,110 --> 00:22:12,200
and I grew up in a very,
very racist environment.
343
00:22:12,243 --> 00:22:14,550
In the South, you're either
black or you're white.
344
00:22:14,594 --> 00:22:16,552
"Black or white" is the way
they would say it to me.
345
00:22:16,596 --> 00:22:18,162
"Are you black or white?"
346
00:22:18,206 --> 00:22:22,210
And, um, you know,
I never knew what to say.
347
00:22:22,253 --> 00:22:26,910
I came to Venice Beach
back in '82.
348
00:22:26,954 --> 00:22:31,698
It was America
at its furthest point.
349
00:22:31,741 --> 00:22:36,746
Multicultural, hip, authentic.
350
00:22:36,790 --> 00:22:40,576
I saw Mad skating,
and I was just blown away.
351
00:22:41,708 --> 00:22:45,102
MAD: Sally was
a nice-looking girl.
352
00:22:45,146 --> 00:22:46,408
Very slender.
353
00:22:46,452 --> 00:22:48,367
She had my attention.
354
00:22:48,410 --> 00:22:52,240
I was on her
like skin on grape.
355
00:22:52,283 --> 00:22:55,112
When it came down
to the introduction thing,
I already knew.
356
00:22:55,156 --> 00:22:57,158
I hopped onto her,
I got up in her face,
357
00:22:57,201 --> 00:23:00,030
and she was, like,
stuck on a smile.
358
00:23:00,074 --> 00:23:02,206
SALLY: He just turns
his skate to the side,
359
00:23:02,250 --> 00:23:04,557
and in one incredibly
rapid movement,
360
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,689
just glides
right over to me.
361
00:23:06,733 --> 00:23:08,387
Now he's like inches
from my face,
362
00:23:08,430 --> 00:23:10,432
towering above me
in his skates.
363
00:23:10,476 --> 00:23:13,261
And he just looks down
at me and he goes, "What?"
364
00:23:13,304 --> 00:23:15,611
"Will you teach me?"
I said, "Look, lady,
365
00:23:15,655 --> 00:23:17,744
"you get some skates.
I'll teach you."
366
00:23:17,787 --> 00:23:19,746
And he's like,
"Be here tomorrow, 3:00."
367
00:23:20,964 --> 00:23:23,880
I took my life savings,
which was $100,
368
00:23:23,924 --> 00:23:26,753
and I paid
for these roller skates,
you know,
369
00:23:26,796 --> 00:23:28,972
having no idea if
I could actually skate.
370
00:23:29,016 --> 00:23:31,235
And then I just started
going out there every day.
371
00:23:31,279 --> 00:23:33,281
[FUNK MUSIC PLAYING]
372
00:23:45,424 --> 00:23:48,209
I never gave any thought
that Sally would be
my skate partner
373
00:23:48,252 --> 00:23:49,863
until I started teasing her.
374
00:23:49,906 --> 00:23:52,039
Then once I made her do
the hard numbers,
375
00:23:52,082 --> 00:23:53,519
she did it.
376
00:23:53,562 --> 00:23:55,608
"Man, wait a minute.
Do this again."
377
00:23:58,872 --> 00:24:02,092
And when she did it,
I got a smile then.
378
00:24:02,136 --> 00:24:04,399
"I'll be damned."
379
00:24:04,443 --> 00:24:06,445
SALLY: "I hope
you're what I think you are,
380
00:24:06,488 --> 00:24:08,751
"the skating partner
I've always dreamed of."
And I'm like, "Yes!"
381
00:24:15,366 --> 00:24:18,500
Because, of course,
I was hoping that
he could see in me
382
00:24:18,544 --> 00:24:20,763
what I really
believed I had
inside of me,
383
00:24:20,807 --> 00:24:23,723
I could really move soulfully
and really be a great
partner for him.
384
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,471
TERRELL: Skating kept me
out of trouble because it
was that something to do
385
00:24:32,514 --> 00:24:34,690
for those eight or ten hours
on a Saturday or Sunday
386
00:24:34,734 --> 00:24:37,258
while I wasn't
in my neighborhood.
387
00:24:37,301 --> 00:24:38,302
I'm from South Central LA.
388
00:24:42,524 --> 00:24:44,352
[ENGINE REVVING]
389
00:24:44,395 --> 00:24:47,790
The two permanent black gangs
are the Crips and the Bloods.
390
00:24:47,834 --> 00:24:49,836
I lived in
a Crip neighborhood,
391
00:24:49,879 --> 00:24:52,055
but there were two
different factions
of Blood gangs around.
392
00:24:52,099 --> 00:24:53,753
You had to know
how to navigate
393
00:24:53,796 --> 00:24:55,929
through the world
of the gangs,
394
00:24:55,972 --> 00:24:58,322
and in my case,
to navigate without
being in a gang.
395
00:25:00,107 --> 00:25:02,762
On my way to Venice,
I would take the bus,
396
00:25:02,805 --> 00:25:07,506
and I'd have to go through
several Crip neighborhoods
just to get to the beach.
397
00:25:07,549 --> 00:25:10,204
And it was like coming out
of where I come from,
398
00:25:10,247 --> 00:25:12,598
where you have to fight
or dodge bullets or whatever.
399
00:25:12,641 --> 00:25:15,165
It was like a utopia.
It was like my
little sanctuary.
400
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,783
LARRY: But his mom didn't
mind him coming down there.
401
00:25:23,826 --> 00:25:25,480
even though he was a kid.
402
00:25:25,524 --> 00:25:26,742
It kept him out of trouble.
403
00:25:28,570 --> 00:25:30,311
We looked out for him.
404
00:25:30,354 --> 00:25:33,314
We looked out for everybody
that skated in that area.
405
00:25:33,357 --> 00:25:34,837
We became inseparable.
406
00:25:34,881 --> 00:25:37,448
I mean, we were turning
into a family.
407
00:25:42,236 --> 00:25:43,977
JIMMY: My brother,
he got caught up
in some stuff.
408
00:25:44,020 --> 00:25:45,326
He was a playboy
gangster Crip.
409
00:25:46,980 --> 00:25:48,982
He ended up going to jail,
410
00:25:49,025 --> 00:25:51,201
incarcerated for
a long period of time,
411
00:25:51,245 --> 00:25:54,509
so he spent more than half
of his life in prison so far.
412
00:25:54,553 --> 00:25:56,555
He's been in jail
over 35 years.
413
00:26:06,652 --> 00:26:09,002
When I turned 17,
414
00:26:09,045 --> 00:26:12,135
I was hanging out
with some people
that were not doing the best.
415
00:26:14,660 --> 00:26:17,010
I would've had to have
join a gang
416
00:26:17,053 --> 00:26:18,620
in order to survive
in that neighborhood.
417
00:26:18,664 --> 00:26:20,230
I just needed to get away.
418
00:26:20,274 --> 00:26:22,711
I needed to find
some new friends.
419
00:26:22,755 --> 00:26:26,193
When I came to Venice,
it kept me out of the hood,
it kept me out of trouble.
420
00:26:26,236 --> 00:26:27,542
I would say
it saved my life.
421
00:26:33,330 --> 00:26:35,855
We didn't have to worry
about gang members
or anything like that
422
00:26:35,898 --> 00:26:39,859
because Mad is so known
all throughout Los Angeles
that even gangs know Mad.
423
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,646
TERRELL: Mad would never
let somebody get jumped.
424
00:26:44,690 --> 00:26:47,736
And I've seen many times
where there'd be, like,
425
00:26:47,780 --> 00:26:50,739
five Crips on one Blood
or five Bloods on one Crip.
426
00:26:50,783 --> 00:26:52,611
He'd look
and he'd be skating.
427
00:26:52,654 --> 00:26:54,003
"The hell's going on
over there?"
428
00:26:54,047 --> 00:26:56,049
And then he'll take off.
"What is he doing?"
429
00:26:56,092 --> 00:26:58,225
So now, I'm trying
to keep up behind him.
430
00:26:58,268 --> 00:27:01,271
And he'll get to a crowd
of people and he just starts
throwing people out of the way
431
00:27:01,315 --> 00:27:03,404
and they'll all turn like,
432
00:27:03,447 --> 00:27:07,103
"Oh, yeah, okay.
No, I'm good."
433
00:27:07,147 --> 00:27:10,759
He was the law
and the jury and the judge
all at the same time.
434
00:27:10,803 --> 00:27:12,239
He was more like a protector.
435
00:27:13,719 --> 00:27:15,677
MAD: I didn't trust
nobody back then.
436
00:27:16,809 --> 00:27:19,072
I didn't smile.
I had this look.
437
00:27:19,115 --> 00:27:20,987
And when I said something,
that really scared them
438
00:27:21,030 --> 00:27:23,685
'cause of the voice
and the size.
439
00:27:23,729 --> 00:27:26,819
People looked at me
like I was a monster.
440
00:27:26,862 --> 00:27:29,822
LARRY: He looks like
this guy that just wants
to rip your head off
441
00:27:29,865 --> 00:27:32,259
or something like that,
but he's gentle.
442
00:27:32,302 --> 00:27:34,653
The music was
the most important thing.
443
00:27:34,696 --> 00:27:36,829
Without no music,
nobody knew what to do.
444
00:27:36,872 --> 00:27:39,701
The six-pin,
a slingshot
445
00:27:39,745 --> 00:27:42,312
slide into it, the alpha.
446
00:27:42,356 --> 00:27:43,792
You didn't feel like
doing none of that
447
00:27:43,836 --> 00:27:45,228
'cause you had no motivation.
448
00:27:45,272 --> 00:27:47,317
The music was the motivation.
Like a night club.
449
00:27:47,361 --> 00:27:49,015
Is there a night club
where there's no music?
450
00:27:49,058 --> 00:27:50,277
That wouldn't go.
451
00:27:51,974 --> 00:27:55,064
When that song
Nasty Rock came on,
452
00:27:55,108 --> 00:27:59,678
I felt what was going on,
knew all the cuts.
453
00:27:59,721 --> 00:28:03,246
The song came on,
everybody knew what to do.
454
00:28:04,508 --> 00:28:06,946
[ NASTY ROCKPLAYING]
455
00:28:13,300 --> 00:28:15,519
[WOMAN LAUGHING]
456
00:28:56,996 --> 00:28:59,128
ALL: Whoo!
457
00:29:02,436 --> 00:29:03,785
[WOMAN LAUGHING]
458
00:29:10,705 --> 00:29:11,880
Come on up.
459
00:29:23,631 --> 00:29:26,590
In the '70s and the '80s,
460
00:29:26,634 --> 00:29:28,462
it was a whole
different country,
461
00:29:28,505 --> 00:29:29,985
especially in
the black community.
462
00:29:30,029 --> 00:29:32,161
And the music reflected that.
463
00:29:32,205 --> 00:29:34,207
When you incorporate
dance into that,
464
00:29:34,250 --> 00:29:36,600
there's so much
self-expression,
465
00:29:36,644 --> 00:29:41,214
especially if you're lucky
enough to be skating
to some meaningful music.
466
00:29:41,257 --> 00:29:45,174
I will tell you, the greatest
protest folk song
that was ever written
467
00:29:45,218 --> 00:29:47,742
was by Mr. James Brown.
468
00:29:47,786 --> 00:29:51,746
I'm Black And I'm Proud,
that song meant so much
to so many people.
469
00:29:51,790 --> 00:29:56,055
-♪ Say it loud
-♪ I'm black and I'm proud
470
00:29:56,098 --> 00:29:59,014
-♪ Say it loud
-♪ I'm black and I'm proud
471
00:30:01,756 --> 00:30:05,847
SALLY: And when
we skate to that song,
it does something.
472
00:30:05,891 --> 00:30:09,068
You have people just saying,
"Goddamn it, yeah."
473
00:30:13,028 --> 00:30:15,814
-♪ Say it loud
-♪ I'm black and I'm proud
474
00:30:15,857 --> 00:30:17,293
♪ One more time
475
00:30:17,337 --> 00:30:19,861
-♪ Say it loud
-♪ I'm black and I'm proud
476
00:30:21,428 --> 00:30:25,214
♪ I worked on jobs
with my feet and my hands♪
477
00:30:25,258 --> 00:30:27,695
My theme song
coming up in this
478
00:30:27,738 --> 00:30:29,479
was Egypt, Egypt
by Egyptian Lover
479
00:30:29,523 --> 00:30:31,220
'cause there was this
breathing part, it was like...
480
00:30:31,264 --> 00:30:32,831
[BREATHING HEAVILY]
481
00:30:32,874 --> 00:30:35,181
And I could thump and flip
and do all my tricks
482
00:30:35,224 --> 00:30:36,225
to that song.
483
00:30:39,533 --> 00:30:41,491
The girls would tend to like
to see my booty move.
484
00:30:41,535 --> 00:30:43,450
Any song
with a lot of breathing
485
00:30:43,493 --> 00:30:45,756
allows me to move my butt,
which allows girls
to watch my butt,
486
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,846
which allows me to meet girls.
487
00:30:47,889 --> 00:30:51,240
It's a love triangle of music,
skating and women.
488
00:30:51,284 --> 00:30:52,502
[CROWD APPLAUDING]
489
00:31:00,119 --> 00:31:03,513
LARRY: Mad was just about
fun and women, period.
490
00:31:03,557 --> 00:31:06,212
He's getting in trouble
all the time
with his girlfriend.
491
00:31:06,255 --> 00:31:08,301
"Larry, watch the box."
and he's gone.
492
00:31:08,344 --> 00:31:10,564
"Oh, God,
here we go again."
493
00:31:10,607 --> 00:31:12,609
And I go,
"Where's Mad at?"
494
00:31:12,653 --> 00:31:13,872
"I don't know."
495
00:31:20,966 --> 00:31:23,142
TERRELL: Mad would see
somebody sitting there
and have me like,
496
00:31:23,185 --> 00:31:25,013
"Terrell, come here."
497
00:31:25,057 --> 00:31:26,928
Grab me by my shoulder
and just like,
498
00:31:26,972 --> 00:31:29,931
"See that girl over there?
Go get her number for me."
499
00:31:29,975 --> 00:31:32,238
I'm like, "Uh, okay."
500
00:31:32,281 --> 00:31:36,155
and I'd skate over,
"Excuse me, Mr. Mad
wants your phone number."
501
00:31:36,198 --> 00:31:38,287
And she's like,
"Who the hell is Mr. Mad?"
502
00:31:38,331 --> 00:31:39,941
I'm like, "Uh, that
big dude over there."
503
00:31:39,985 --> 00:31:42,770
And she's like,
"Oh, tell him to come here."
504
00:31:42,813 --> 00:31:44,467
So I'd go back, skate back,
505
00:31:44,511 --> 00:31:47,340
"Mad, she said you need
to go over there."
506
00:31:47,383 --> 00:31:50,560
"All right."
Then Mad scoots over
and gets her number.
507
00:31:50,604 --> 00:31:51,735
And that's how we did it.
508
00:31:52,780 --> 00:31:55,174
MAD: I was mostly into myself
509
00:31:55,217 --> 00:31:58,046
more than a woman
wasting my time.
510
00:31:59,787 --> 00:32:01,963
Mad was more
of a big brother than a dad
511
00:32:02,007 --> 00:32:05,140
'cause the dad wouldn't
tell you some of the shit
that Mad told me.
512
00:32:05,184 --> 00:32:07,708
He would give me
words of wisdom like,
513
00:32:07,751 --> 00:32:09,188
"Stick and move.
Stick and move."
514
00:32:09,231 --> 00:32:12,539
basically meaning,
"Don't get caught
with one woman."
515
00:32:12,582 --> 00:32:15,063
Stick and move meant,
get one, get done with it.
516
00:32:15,107 --> 00:32:17,196
Get another one,
get done with it.
517
00:32:17,239 --> 00:32:19,285
So when he found out
that I was having a kid,
518
00:32:19,328 --> 00:32:21,113
he was like, "Oh,
you stick and got stuck."
519
00:32:23,158 --> 00:32:24,812
HOST: We have
the Venice skaters here,
520
00:32:24,855 --> 00:32:26,161
and I think they're
gonna start the show.
521
00:32:26,205 --> 00:32:27,380
We have Mad here.
522
00:32:27,423 --> 00:32:29,164
[CROWD CHEERING]
523
00:32:29,208 --> 00:32:32,907
And let's her it
for Terrell, Jimmy.
524
00:32:32,951 --> 00:32:34,822
[PERCUSSION MUSIC PLAYING]
525
00:32:40,045 --> 00:32:42,308
SALLY: When we all lived
in small tribal communities,
526
00:32:42,351 --> 00:32:44,266
whether you were
in Ireland or Africa,
527
00:32:44,310 --> 00:32:45,833
men would dance together.
528
00:32:47,139 --> 00:32:48,749
And it's a beautiful thing.
529
00:32:50,055 --> 00:32:53,580
And that lives
in roller skating.
530
00:32:57,279 --> 00:33:02,241
But there's nothing like
a great dance or skate team.
531
00:33:02,284 --> 00:33:04,156
There are things that a team
can do together
532
00:33:04,199 --> 00:33:06,332
that just create
a certain magic,
533
00:33:06,375 --> 00:33:09,204
like Fred Astaire
and Ginger Rogers.
534
00:33:11,250 --> 00:33:13,382
I always used
to think of me and Mad
535
00:33:13,426 --> 00:33:16,951
as being the Fred Astaire
and Ginger Rogers
of roller dancing.
536
00:33:18,126 --> 00:33:20,650
The soulful version.
537
00:33:20,694 --> 00:33:24,002
If it came down
to going somewhere
538
00:33:24,045 --> 00:33:25,699
to sell it to the public,
539
00:33:25,742 --> 00:33:27,222
she was the ticket.
540
00:33:27,266 --> 00:33:29,442
All females, basically.
541
00:33:29,485 --> 00:33:31,835
It's never the guy
that sells a ticket,
542
00:33:31,879 --> 00:33:33,011
it's your partner.
543
00:33:38,668 --> 00:33:41,062
SALLY: My friend from Sweden
happened to come by
544
00:33:41,106 --> 00:33:42,585
and take these
photos one day,
545
00:33:42,629 --> 00:33:45,458
and I was sort of almost
embarrassed by it
546
00:33:45,501 --> 00:33:49,940
because my love for him
is so obvious...[LAUGHING]
547
00:33:49,984 --> 00:33:51,638
It's almost embarrassing.
548
00:33:53,553 --> 00:33:56,730
Man, I had one of
the great love affairs
of all time
549
00:33:56,773 --> 00:33:59,472
without even necessarily
having a love affair.
550
00:34:07,697 --> 00:34:10,048
JIMMY: Some people
are performers,
some people are watchers.
551
00:34:11,788 --> 00:34:14,878
I started seeing
footage of myself,
pictures of myself,
552
00:34:14,922 --> 00:34:16,837
and people coming and saying,
"Hey, look, I found you."
553
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,274
I never really recognized
what it looked like,
554
00:34:19,318 --> 00:34:21,189
and I realized,
you know, this is...
555
00:34:21,233 --> 00:34:23,104
"You're doing something
very unique."
556
00:34:23,148 --> 00:34:26,760
Instead of celebrating us
or thanking us or paying us,
557
00:34:26,803 --> 00:34:30,720
Hollywood comes down and tries
to exploit the talent.
558
00:34:30,764 --> 00:34:32,461
NARRATOR: He's the best
skater around.
559
00:34:32,505 --> 00:34:34,855
She's the hottest
date in town.
560
00:34:34,898 --> 00:34:37,771
Together, they're
love on wheels
561
00:34:37,814 --> 00:34:40,295
inRoller Boogie.
562
00:34:40,339 --> 00:34:42,297
DUVAL: We taught
Linda Blair how to skate.
563
00:34:42,341 --> 00:34:45,692
She was like all feet.
Nowhere to go.
564
00:34:45,735 --> 00:34:47,955
LARRY: All of those
roller skate movies,
565
00:34:47,998 --> 00:34:50,479
all carbon copies
of what we did down in Venice.
566
00:34:51,959 --> 00:34:54,179
MAD: Roller Boogie,
only showing Linda Blair,
567
00:34:54,222 --> 00:34:57,791
this dude doing
some Scott Hamilton,
Dorothy Hamill shit.
568
00:34:57,834 --> 00:35:00,141
Uh, where's the talent
in that? I don't see it.
569
00:35:01,055 --> 00:35:03,057
DUVAL: Skatetown, USA.
570
00:35:03,101 --> 00:35:06,495
The whole story
was centered around
a bunch of white guys.
571
00:35:06,539 --> 00:35:08,497
This white guy,
white girl picture.
572
00:35:08,541 --> 00:35:11,109
I mean, none of us
are being represented.
573
00:35:11,152 --> 00:35:14,155
Skatetown, USA,where they
wanted to cut me in half
574
00:35:14,199 --> 00:35:15,548
and put this dude
on top of me.
575
00:35:15,591 --> 00:35:17,985
And I'm like,
"You gotta be kidding."
576
00:35:18,028 --> 00:35:20,205
They was like,
"What's wrong with that?
Everybody does it."
577
00:35:20,248 --> 00:35:23,164
I say, "How they gonna
know who I am
578
00:35:23,208 --> 00:35:25,123
"if they're only
seeing this part
579
00:35:25,166 --> 00:35:27,212
"with some dude
that I don't even know
on top of me?"
580
00:35:27,255 --> 00:35:28,517
I said no.
581
00:35:28,909 --> 00:35:30,780
LARRY: Xanadu.
582
00:35:30,824 --> 00:35:32,782
They didn't
really get skaters.
583
00:35:34,610 --> 00:35:36,177
You have clowns,
584
00:35:36,221 --> 00:35:38,745
you know, 'cause they're
doing flips, they're flopping.
585
00:35:38,788 --> 00:35:41,051
They're doing
everything but skate.
586
00:35:41,095 --> 00:35:43,141
Anybody can skate
in a straight line.
587
00:35:43,184 --> 00:35:44,533
But can you do
the other stuff?
588
00:35:50,452 --> 00:35:52,367
MAD: People came out there,
they got upset.
589
00:35:52,411 --> 00:35:53,586
"I can't even see
the roller skaters.
590
00:35:53,629 --> 00:35:54,935
"I heard so much about them.
591
00:35:54,978 --> 00:35:56,676
"Where the white people at?"
592
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,678
"We watched it on movies."
593
00:35:58,721 --> 00:36:00,723
They wanted white America
out there,
594
00:36:00,767 --> 00:36:03,509
but Venice is about
the only beach that's black.
595
00:36:06,381 --> 00:36:07,643
LARRY: They definitely
whitewashed it.
596
00:36:10,255 --> 00:36:11,952
SALLY: If we were
to look back
597
00:36:11,995 --> 00:36:16,174
on what record do we have
of the skating phenomenon
598
00:36:16,217 --> 00:36:19,438
that really was a part
of black culture in America,
599
00:36:19,481 --> 00:36:23,442
you wouldn't see
the phenomenal things that
happened on Venice Beach.
600
00:36:23,485 --> 00:36:27,054
We would see these
ridiculous movies,
601
00:36:28,055 --> 00:36:29,404
silly Afros,
602
00:36:30,275 --> 00:36:33,408
ridiculous clothing.
603
00:36:33,452 --> 00:36:38,413
The tragedy of that is that
history has just been
completely rewritten.
604
00:36:38,457 --> 00:36:40,633
That becomes what people
think the culture was.
605
00:36:44,506 --> 00:36:47,117
DUVAL: It doesn't give
any of us skaters
606
00:36:47,161 --> 00:36:51,600
who are out there
over the weekend
any representation.
607
00:36:51,644 --> 00:36:55,125
We have a black Green Lantern,
but there's no black Superman.
608
00:36:55,169 --> 00:36:58,259
So I was like,
"We gotta remedy that."
609
00:37:01,828 --> 00:37:04,570
Keep it hidden,
as you can see.
610
00:37:06,398 --> 00:37:08,226
And this is yours truly
611
00:37:09,227 --> 00:37:10,532
in regal fashion.
612
00:37:11,838 --> 00:37:15,363
I'm Superiad, the forgotten
prince of Krypton.
613
00:37:15,407 --> 00:37:17,278
These are my skates of power,
614
00:37:17,322 --> 00:37:19,149
the most dangerous
skates alive. [CHUCKLES]
615
00:37:21,674 --> 00:37:24,938
Skating is a need
to express yourself,
616
00:37:24,981 --> 00:37:26,896
the same may I do
in my artwork.
617
00:37:28,071 --> 00:37:30,683
I'm a freelance illustrator.
618
00:37:30,726 --> 00:37:34,339
And this is my dream
called Roller Coasters.
619
00:37:34,382 --> 00:37:37,777
TheRoller Coasters
was my very first
creator owned series.
620
00:37:43,348 --> 00:37:45,088
I sat there
and thought one day,
621
00:37:45,132 --> 00:37:47,917
"Why not have a roller-skating
superhero team?"
622
00:37:53,227 --> 00:37:54,837
The reason why
they have skates on,
623
00:37:54,881 --> 00:37:56,578
because they're
lightning fast.
624
00:37:56,622 --> 00:37:58,276
They're faster than
the speed of sound.
625
00:38:01,235 --> 00:38:02,584
This is Mr. Mad.
626
00:38:06,936 --> 00:38:09,374
He's the perfect character.
[CHUCKLES]
627
00:38:09,417 --> 00:38:12,638
Strong, brash,
and very, very impulsive.
628
00:38:20,602 --> 00:38:23,257
SALLY: Nobody mattered
like Mad did.
629
00:38:23,301 --> 00:38:25,781
He was really an artist,
630
00:38:25,825 --> 00:38:28,654
and his dreams were
like any artist's,
631
00:38:28,697 --> 00:38:32,179
to show the world
what he could do.
632
00:38:33,876 --> 00:38:36,662
He didn't allow himself
to have a lot of dreams.
633
00:38:38,011 --> 00:38:39,839
Dreaming is
dangerous territory.
634
00:38:42,276 --> 00:38:45,148
Skating with me
the way he knew
I could skate with him,
635
00:38:46,411 --> 00:38:48,238
skating in competition,
636
00:38:48,282 --> 00:38:50,937
was the only dream
he ever allowed
himself to have.
637
00:38:52,112 --> 00:38:54,201
And then I went
and fucked it up.
638
00:38:57,944 --> 00:39:02,731
So even though skating
had suddenly become
this wild obsession,
639
00:39:04,254 --> 00:39:07,649
my life-long passion
and my career was music.
640
00:39:07,693 --> 00:39:11,392
So just as I was
becoming a skater,
641
00:39:11,436 --> 00:39:14,439
I went off to Europe
with my songwriting partner
to do a tour.
642
00:39:22,403 --> 00:39:26,233
My very last day,
and we're in London,
643
00:39:26,276 --> 00:39:29,149
the folks I was
staying with, he calls out,
644
00:39:29,192 --> 00:39:32,544
[IN BRITISH ACCENT] "Sally,
could you come down and
help me jump start the car?"
645
00:39:32,587 --> 00:39:34,720
And I turned
to run to the other
side of the street
646
00:39:34,763 --> 00:39:38,376
and ran smack into a car.
647
00:39:38,419 --> 00:39:42,902
And the car actually
ran over my foot
and into my knee,
648
00:39:42,945 --> 00:39:45,992
and sort of
permanently destroyed
649
00:39:46,035 --> 00:39:48,647
what would've been
my great skating career.
650
00:39:48,690 --> 00:39:49,996
She came back
with some crutches,
651
00:39:50,039 --> 00:39:51,998
walked over to me,
"Hey, how you doin'?"
652
00:39:52,041 --> 00:39:53,608
I froze and I look.
653
00:39:53,652 --> 00:39:55,436
I went, "The hell
happened to you?"
654
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,307
My nightmare just started.
655
00:39:58,700 --> 00:40:03,575
Nobody else was
capable of doing what she did.
656
00:40:08,057 --> 00:40:13,236
SALLY: He was like,
"You'll never be able
to be really good again."
657
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,588
And he turned away from me
and didn't speak to me
for, like, two, three years.
658
00:40:19,808 --> 00:40:22,985
I basically dashed
the only dream
659
00:40:23,029 --> 00:40:25,292
he'd ever really
allowed himself to have.
660
00:40:28,991 --> 00:40:31,646
My dreams, everything
went down the drain.
661
00:40:37,304 --> 00:40:39,219
SALLY: I didn't understand
why he was ignoring me.
662
00:40:41,003 --> 00:40:43,049
And what was
really frustrating
663
00:40:43,092 --> 00:40:45,094
is that he would be teaching
all these other girls
664
00:40:49,534 --> 00:40:50,839
who just didn't
have it in them.
665
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,668
[FUNK MUSIC PLAYING]
666
00:41:33,752 --> 00:41:36,929
REPORTER: The three
police officers facing
felony criminal charges
667
00:41:36,972 --> 00:41:38,931
were among a group of 15
668
00:41:38,974 --> 00:41:42,238
who stopped a 25-year-old
black man last Saturday night,
669
00:41:42,282 --> 00:41:44,545
then beat him,
kicked him and clubbed him,
670
00:41:44,589 --> 00:41:46,895
unaware that
an amateur photographer
671
00:41:46,939 --> 00:41:49,985
was recording the incident
on video tape.
672
00:41:50,029 --> 00:41:54,468
MAD: When the guy filmed
the police beating
Rodney King,
673
00:41:54,512 --> 00:41:56,296
black people used
to seeing that.
674
00:41:56,339 --> 00:41:58,298
That was no big deal.
675
00:41:58,341 --> 00:42:00,692
JURY MEMBER: We, the jury,
to the above entitled action,
676
00:42:00,735 --> 00:42:03,259
find the defendant,
Stacey C. Koon,
677
00:42:03,303 --> 00:42:06,045
not guilty of the crime
of assault by force
678
00:42:06,088 --> 00:42:09,744
likely to produce
great bodily injury
and with a deadly weapon.
679
00:42:09,788 --> 00:42:12,486
The jury is what
started the riot.
680
00:42:12,530 --> 00:42:14,357
[SIREN WAILING]
681
00:42:14,401 --> 00:42:16,751
The world just blew up.
682
00:42:16,795 --> 00:42:20,276
NEWSCASTER: The National Guard
has been called in to quell
widespread violence
683
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,104
in South Central Los Angeles.
684
00:42:22,148 --> 00:42:24,324
The violence erupted
after the acquittal
685
00:42:24,367 --> 00:42:28,197
of four white policemen
in the beating trial
of black motorist Rodney King.
686
00:42:28,241 --> 00:42:30,939
There's been looting,
buildings has been set ablaze.
687
00:42:30,983 --> 00:42:33,115
So far, eight people
reported dead.
688
00:42:33,159 --> 00:42:35,117
Scores of others
have been injured.
689
00:42:35,161 --> 00:42:36,858
Governor Pete Wilson
has declared a state
of emergency.
690
00:42:42,211 --> 00:42:44,213
LARRY: The riots
were a turning point.
691
00:42:44,257 --> 00:42:46,085
Everything down
at the beach changed.
692
00:42:49,131 --> 00:42:51,612
It broke the continuity
that we had down there.
693
00:42:51,656 --> 00:42:53,745
It just shattered everything.
694
00:42:56,661 --> 00:42:58,358
All of a sudden,
drugs became notorious.
695
00:43:02,231 --> 00:43:05,365
When crack cocaine came out,
this place flipped
696
00:43:05,408 --> 00:43:08,629
because, I mean,
it's definitely so addictive
697
00:43:08,673 --> 00:43:12,894
that it took people you know
that were straight-A students
and good people,
698
00:43:12,938 --> 00:43:15,897
all of a sudden and just
turned them into thugs,
699
00:43:15,941 --> 00:43:19,684
and people doing whatever
they felt they wanted to do
just to get a hit.
700
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,778
LARRY:
So I started experimenting
with heroine, crack
701
00:43:26,821 --> 00:43:28,867
from about '86 and '93.
702
00:43:28,910 --> 00:43:32,044
I was... I was out of control.
703
00:43:33,698 --> 00:43:36,265
MAD: Larry was on a roll
of self-destruction.
704
00:43:36,309 --> 00:43:38,267
He looking like
whatever them drugs,
705
00:43:38,311 --> 00:43:41,009
whatever that nighttime
thing he was doing,
706
00:43:41,053 --> 00:43:42,228
it was on him.
707
00:43:42,271 --> 00:43:44,447
He was showing it
in the look.
708
00:43:44,491 --> 00:43:46,101
And we couldn't
trust something
709
00:43:46,145 --> 00:43:48,277
to be left right here
710
00:43:48,321 --> 00:43:49,583
if Larry was there.
711
00:43:49,627 --> 00:43:50,845
It came up missing.
712
00:43:52,107 --> 00:43:53,369
LARRY: I was a burglar.
713
00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:56,546
No house was safe.
714
00:43:56,590 --> 00:43:59,680
The day that I got busted,
I didn't know the cops
were looking for me.
715
00:43:59,724 --> 00:44:01,377
And I was at a crack house.
716
00:44:01,421 --> 00:44:03,510
When I came out this house,
as soon as I walked out,
717
00:44:03,553 --> 00:44:04,859
"You Larry Pitts?"
"Yup."
718
00:44:06,295 --> 00:44:07,645
And that was it.
719
00:44:13,738 --> 00:44:17,829
You know, I kind of
pulled out of the skating
scene in the '90s
720
00:44:17,872 --> 00:44:20,048
for a short while
because I had a child,
721
00:44:20,092 --> 00:44:22,660
you know, my son was born,
and I was busy
being a mother.
722
00:44:24,313 --> 00:44:28,100
But meanwhile, other forces
were changing the scene.
723
00:44:29,449 --> 00:44:30,668
[STATIC BUZZING]
724
00:44:30,711 --> 00:44:32,234
[HIP-HOP MUSIC PLAYING]
725
00:44:36,848 --> 00:44:38,719
SALLY: The big
record companies
726
00:44:38,763 --> 00:44:42,505
started hyping up
the worst wannabes
in every genre,
727
00:44:42,549 --> 00:44:44,507
but especially hip-hop,
728
00:44:44,551 --> 00:44:48,555
which degenerated
almost exclusively
into gangster rap.
729
00:44:48,598 --> 00:44:51,863
♪ Crack rock, silver pots
Manage to get dough
730
00:44:51,906 --> 00:44:54,866
♪ Crack rock, silver pots
Manage to get dough
731
00:44:54,909 --> 00:44:57,085
♪ Crack rock, silver pots
Manage to get dough ♪
732
00:44:57,129 --> 00:45:00,132
It's really painful to me
because we used to have music
733
00:45:00,175 --> 00:45:02,700
that we skated to
that empowered us.
734
00:45:02,743 --> 00:45:04,745
How did we get from the '70s,
735
00:45:04,789 --> 00:45:07,487
where everybody was learning
736
00:45:07,530 --> 00:45:09,837
how to listen to one another
and respect one another,
737
00:45:09,881 --> 00:45:11,273
and to now?
738
00:45:13,580 --> 00:45:15,538
"Bitch better have my money"?
739
00:45:15,582 --> 00:45:17,279
You expect me
to skate to this shit?
740
00:45:17,802 --> 00:45:19,325
[MUSIC CONTINUES]
741
00:45:34,949 --> 00:45:36,951
DUVAL: All they talking
about is the bling-bling
742
00:45:36,995 --> 00:45:38,736
or how many ladies they have
743
00:45:38,779 --> 00:45:40,955
or how much gold they got on
744
00:45:40,999 --> 00:45:43,088
or what kind of cars
they're driving or whatever.
745
00:45:43,131 --> 00:45:44,480
I don't wanna hear all that.
746
00:45:50,878 --> 00:45:52,706
MAD: I mean, these lyrics,
747
00:45:52,750 --> 00:45:56,318
a lot of "M-Fs,"
some prostitutes,
748
00:45:56,362 --> 00:45:58,712
that's the number one song
749
00:45:58,756 --> 00:46:01,367
and I'm supposed to,
what, enjoy that?
750
00:46:01,410 --> 00:46:03,412
Why the motherfucker's
always standing in the middle
751
00:46:03,456 --> 00:46:05,414
at a fucking skate way
doing nothing?
752
00:46:07,199 --> 00:46:09,418
JIMMY: That music
had to be popular,
753
00:46:09,462 --> 00:46:11,333
had to be what was
going on at that time.
754
00:46:11,377 --> 00:46:12,508
It fueled the fire.
755
00:46:14,206 --> 00:46:16,208
MAD: LAPD back then,
756
00:46:16,251 --> 00:46:18,776
they got too many
black people in one spot.
757
00:46:18,819 --> 00:46:20,429
That's gonna be a problem.
758
00:46:20,473 --> 00:46:23,824
Just about every weekend,
a uniform would show up.
759
00:46:23,868 --> 00:46:26,218
And I knew right then
and there that something
was about to go wrong.
760
00:46:29,395 --> 00:46:31,005
[YELLING INDISTINCTLY]
761
00:46:32,615 --> 00:46:34,008
[FUNK MUSIC PLAYING]
762
00:46:44,584 --> 00:46:46,368
[CROWD CHEERING]
763
00:46:50,068 --> 00:46:52,026
MAD: And all of a sudden,
out of nowhere,
764
00:46:52,070 --> 00:46:54,202
the police got orders.
765
00:46:54,246 --> 00:46:58,032
"Amplified music
on the beach is not allowed."
766
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,865
JIMMY: The police started
coming and shutting
our music off,
767
00:47:04,909 --> 00:47:06,693
and have decibel
meters and say,
768
00:47:06,736 --> 00:47:08,216
"You can only
have it this loud."
769
00:47:08,260 --> 00:47:09,783
and we'd be like,
"We can't even hear it."
770
00:47:09,827 --> 00:47:11,785
The police were afraid
of the number of people.
771
00:47:11,829 --> 00:47:14,962
I mean, you'd have
like 1,000, 2,000,
3,000 people there
772
00:47:15,006 --> 00:47:17,486
and there's only
20 cops or ten cops.
773
00:47:17,530 --> 00:47:19,880
I think they got afraid
that if something jumped off,
774
00:47:19,924 --> 00:47:22,709
they wouldn't be able
to handle the situation.
775
00:47:22,752 --> 00:47:25,712
SALLY: Then the cops,
they started shutting
us down at 8:00,
776
00:47:25,755 --> 00:47:27,627
then they started
shutting at down at 7:00,
777
00:47:27,670 --> 00:47:30,630
then they started
shutting us down at 6:00.
778
00:47:30,673 --> 00:47:33,981
And I was saying, "Man,
if we let them do this,
779
00:47:34,025 --> 00:47:35,896
"soon they'll be shutting
us down altogether."
780
00:47:38,159 --> 00:47:40,727
MAD: "I gotta tell you
one more time,
781
00:47:40,770 --> 00:47:42,511
"you and this box
is going to jail."
782
00:47:51,303 --> 00:47:54,654
This is my goat, my goat.
Yeah, uh-huh!
783
00:47:54,697 --> 00:47:56,264
It's right here.
784
00:47:57,352 --> 00:47:58,658
-Mad here.
-Right on.
785
00:47:59,180 --> 00:48:00,486
Turn it back up.
786
00:48:04,490 --> 00:48:06,057
I say, "No."
787
00:48:06,100 --> 00:48:07,710
"Put your hands
behind your back.
You're going to jail."
788
00:48:07,754 --> 00:48:09,495
"For what?"
"For amplified music."
789
00:48:09,538 --> 00:48:11,192
"Whoa, you gotta be kidding."
790
00:48:11,889 --> 00:48:13,716
WOMAN: Who's in charge?
791
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,022
They put you in charge?
792
00:48:16,894 --> 00:48:19,026
MAD: The police came.
They came hard.
793
00:48:19,070 --> 00:48:21,289
And they came
directly at me.
794
00:48:22,290 --> 00:48:23,944
SALLY: During that period,
795
00:48:23,988 --> 00:48:26,468
Mad was thrown
in jail repeatedly.
796
00:48:26,512 --> 00:48:29,210
I don't know how many times,
but it was a lot.
797
00:48:32,474 --> 00:48:36,087
When we were roller skating
in the '80s,
798
00:48:36,130 --> 00:48:37,958
we thought things
were gonna get better.
799
00:48:38,002 --> 00:48:41,701
You know, we honestly thought
that a lot of the prejudices
800
00:48:41,744 --> 00:48:44,573
that we grew up with
in the '50s and '60s
or whatever
801
00:48:44,617 --> 00:48:46,401
were dissipating.
802
00:48:49,970 --> 00:48:51,580
We didn't see this coming.
803
00:48:53,582 --> 00:48:56,977
All we wanted to do
was dance, skate and play.
804
00:48:57,021 --> 00:48:59,066
There's no reason
for this reprimand
805
00:48:59,110 --> 00:49:01,286
or for this
enforced nonsense.
806
00:49:01,329 --> 00:49:03,201
We have got
a little problem here.
807
00:49:03,244 --> 00:49:06,073
After 20 years
of doing this for you guys,
808
00:49:06,117 --> 00:49:08,946
LAPD has decided that
they don't wanna do it.
809
00:49:08,989 --> 00:49:10,904
Fight for our right, guys.
810
00:49:10,948 --> 00:49:12,253
MAN: [IN MEGAPHONE]
I don't think there's
a black race or white race.
811
00:49:12,297 --> 00:49:13,863
We're all
the human race, right?
812
00:49:13,907 --> 00:49:16,127
There's no law
against skates,
so we're gonna skate.
813
00:49:17,911 --> 00:49:19,782
ALL: ♪ No music, no music
814
00:49:19,826 --> 00:49:22,394
♪ Come on, come on
No music, come on
815
00:49:22,437 --> 00:49:24,135
♪ It's in here
Come on ♪
816
00:49:27,051 --> 00:49:29,531
Being black and getting
music on the beach
817
00:49:29,575 --> 00:49:31,881
was far as,
in white community
818
00:49:31,925 --> 00:49:33,100
and white eyes, no.
819
00:49:34,406 --> 00:49:36,756
"You guys can have fun,
but not like that."
820
00:49:37,626 --> 00:49:39,367
I have a look of,
821
00:49:39,411 --> 00:49:41,108
"You need to come
fuck with me."
822
00:49:42,370 --> 00:49:43,763
First thing out
of their mouth,
823
00:49:43,806 --> 00:49:46,984
"What penitentiary
you just got out of?"
Attitude.
824
00:49:48,463 --> 00:49:50,117
"What makes you think
I've been in a penitentiary?"
825
00:49:50,161 --> 00:49:52,206
"Look at you.
826
00:49:52,250 --> 00:49:55,601
"You see,
you're a serious threat.
How'd you get that size?"
827
00:49:55,644 --> 00:49:57,429
SALLY: First,
he couldn't drive
without getting pulled over,
828
00:49:57,472 --> 00:49:59,605
and then he kept scaling down.
829
00:49:59,648 --> 00:50:03,391
Bicycles. He still got
pulled over for speeding
on his bicycle?
830
00:50:05,654 --> 00:50:09,136
And I don't think it's easy
to imagine what that's like.
831
00:50:09,180 --> 00:50:11,051
When you walk out
your front door,
832
00:50:11,095 --> 00:50:12,879
you're automatically a threat.
833
00:50:14,663 --> 00:50:18,015
Mad is the black man
that white America fears.
834
00:50:18,058 --> 00:50:20,930
And he's the...
He's the image.
835
00:50:20,974 --> 00:50:24,282
NEWSCASTER: Venice Beach
roller skaters are now
skating on thin ice.
836
00:50:24,325 --> 00:50:27,067
At issue
is this piece of pavement.
837
00:50:27,111 --> 00:50:30,201
The police say they need
emergency access to the beach,
838
00:50:30,244 --> 00:50:31,898
and that this smooth
piece of concrete,
839
00:50:31,941 --> 00:50:34,422
a haven to skaters
for two decades,
840
00:50:34,466 --> 00:50:36,468
is one of the few
routes to the sand.
841
00:50:36,511 --> 00:50:38,644
It's never been
designated for that.
842
00:50:38,687 --> 00:50:41,734
They've never got a law
or an ordinance passed
for that reason.
843
00:50:41,777 --> 00:50:43,475
And they didn't
do their homework.
844
00:50:43,518 --> 00:50:44,998
NEWSCASTER: An alternate spot
has been offered,
845
00:50:45,042 --> 00:50:47,087
but it's slanted and flawed,
846
00:50:47,131 --> 00:50:49,437
and in the lingo
of a skater, "cracked heels."
847
00:50:49,481 --> 00:50:51,135
We hesitate
to call it racism,
848
00:50:51,178 --> 00:50:52,658
but we can't help
but wonder
849
00:50:52,701 --> 00:50:55,313
why they're selectively
enforcing it here.
850
00:50:55,356 --> 00:50:56,705
They have indicated
to us in the past
851
00:50:56,749 --> 00:50:58,838
that it's because we
attract "a certain element,"
852
00:50:58,881 --> 00:51:01,797
which we all know
what that's a code word for.
853
00:51:01,841 --> 00:51:05,627
MAD: They picked out
who they wanted to
be on the beach
854
00:51:05,671 --> 00:51:07,368
and who they didn't
want to be on the beach.
855
00:51:07,412 --> 00:51:09,414
[PEOPLE CLAMORING]
856
00:51:11,546 --> 00:51:13,766
And then they end up
finally figuring out
857
00:51:13,809 --> 00:51:16,160
that the only way
they can really destroy us
and get rid of us
858
00:51:16,203 --> 00:51:17,422
is to rip up the pavement.
859
00:51:33,481 --> 00:51:36,093
SALLY: That land
under which we skated
860
00:51:36,136 --> 00:51:38,225
was sacred ground,
as far as I'm concerned.
861
00:51:42,011 --> 00:51:44,710
And they just bring in
bulldozers and rip it up.
862
00:51:48,801 --> 00:51:51,151
That's when the soul
left Venice Beach.
863
00:52:04,033 --> 00:52:06,384
I'll be damned
when it was good.
864
00:52:06,427 --> 00:52:08,995
I'm going with it.
I can't do nothing
else with it.
865
00:52:09,038 --> 00:52:10,039
Time for me to go.
866
00:52:28,754 --> 00:52:30,451
MAD: No more skating.
867
00:52:30,495 --> 00:52:32,714
I miss it, but I can't
go back over there.
868
00:52:34,890 --> 00:52:37,502
MICHELLE: I think
he misses skating a lot.
869
00:52:37,545 --> 00:52:39,721
He has such passion
in what he does,
and if he can't...
870
00:52:39,765 --> 00:52:41,419
That's why he's not
skating now,
871
00:52:41,462 --> 00:52:43,334
it's because if he
can't do it right,
872
00:52:43,377 --> 00:52:45,858
he doesn't wanna do it at all.
873
00:52:45,901 --> 00:52:48,687
Original Steel Horses jacket.
874
00:52:48,730 --> 00:52:52,212
Just about everybody
in the club has one of these.
875
00:52:52,256 --> 00:52:55,955
RUSTY: He's my mentor,
he's my mechanic,
876
00:52:55,998 --> 00:52:58,610
my personal trainer
when I'm getting
ready for races.
877
00:52:58,653 --> 00:52:59,828
He likes to teach
if you wanna learn.
878
00:53:01,830 --> 00:53:03,180
[ENGINE REVVING]
879
00:53:07,836 --> 00:53:09,795
MICHELLE: I think, sometimes,
he's trying to run away
880
00:53:09,838 --> 00:53:11,231
from all his past.
881
00:53:16,236 --> 00:53:18,717
James wakes up mad.
882
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,416
And it takes everything
he has in the day
883
00:53:22,460 --> 00:53:24,766
to keep him
from showing that side.
884
00:53:26,681 --> 00:53:28,988
WAITRESS: Your eggs.
885
00:53:29,031 --> 00:53:31,120
-You're kidding, right?
-[WAITRESS LAUGHING]
886
00:53:31,164 --> 00:53:33,122
WAITRESS: You want
your hamburger and your eggs
on the side, no?
887
00:53:33,906 --> 00:53:35,037
I wanted two eggs.
888
00:53:36,343 --> 00:53:37,649
Yeah, but he wanted
it separate.
889
00:53:37,692 --> 00:53:40,826
I wanted it separate.
Two eggs separate.
890
00:53:40,869 --> 00:53:43,089
MICHELLE: I always call him
"The Incredible Hulk"
891
00:53:43,132 --> 00:53:45,613
because he's one of those
892
00:53:45,657 --> 00:53:48,616
that when he gets mad,
he can really get mad.
893
00:53:49,922 --> 00:53:52,403
Hey, homie. Dude.
894
00:53:52,446 --> 00:53:53,491
Tell her I don't
want that burger.
895
00:53:55,057 --> 00:53:56,102
Didn't fix it right
the first time.
896
00:53:56,145 --> 00:53:57,364
I don't need a second.
897
00:53:57,408 --> 00:53:58,670
[MICHELLE SPEAKING]
898
00:53:58,713 --> 00:54:00,237
Yeah, fuck me.
899
00:54:08,419 --> 00:54:11,335
LARRY: I couldn't
skate in prison.
900
00:54:11,378 --> 00:54:15,295
But when I got back out,
I was able to do everything.
I remembered everything.
901
00:54:15,339 --> 00:54:17,428
But when I came down
to the beach,
902
00:54:17,471 --> 00:54:20,605
all of a sudden, it's changed.
903
00:54:20,648 --> 00:54:22,302
It's not like it was
904
00:54:22,346 --> 00:54:25,653
because they've taken us
away from where we were at.
905
00:54:25,697 --> 00:54:28,656
I said "Where's Mad?"
"Oh, he don't
come down there anymore."
906
00:54:28,700 --> 00:54:31,050
Everything was changed.
Everything was different.
907
00:54:31,093 --> 00:54:32,356
And I was ticked off.
908
00:54:33,705 --> 00:54:36,011
And they, like,
shoveled us off to the side,
909
00:54:36,055 --> 00:54:36,925
in a corner.
910
00:54:42,844 --> 00:54:44,063
We were totally invisible.
911
00:54:46,413 --> 00:54:49,938
SALLY: These days,
the cops don't have
to harass us anymore
912
00:54:49,982 --> 00:54:53,377
because we've been
neutralized and marginalized.
913
00:54:53,420 --> 00:54:56,902
They've got us shunted off
in that funky little area
914
00:54:56,945 --> 00:54:59,165
which has, coincidentally,
915
00:54:59,208 --> 00:55:02,299
become the hygiene-challenged
homeless area.
916
00:55:04,388 --> 00:55:06,172
It's not what it used to be,
917
00:55:06,215 --> 00:55:09,349
back when Mad, Jimmy,
Terrell, and I
918
00:55:09,393 --> 00:55:11,177
were down there
doing our thing.
919
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,448
TERRELL: I think
with Mad being gone,
920
00:55:21,492 --> 00:55:22,623
there was no real leader.
921
00:55:26,671 --> 00:55:28,847
SALLY: The skating
scene's really gone.
922
00:55:28,890 --> 00:55:30,675
The heart and soul
was being lost.
923
00:55:32,807 --> 00:55:35,375
TERRELL: So we need Mad
back in Venice Beach
to get that back.
924
00:55:40,685 --> 00:55:43,209
INTERVIEWER: If you ever
went back to LA,
925
00:55:43,252 --> 00:55:44,645
ever went back to Venice,
926
00:55:44,689 --> 00:55:46,952
would you go back
out to Venice
927
00:55:46,995 --> 00:55:49,607
and would you skate
for old time's sake?
928
00:55:49,650 --> 00:55:51,870
If they brought it
to that situation, I would.
929
00:55:54,829 --> 00:55:58,137
MAD: Utah is not the problem.
It's what's in Utah.
930
00:55:58,180 --> 00:56:01,532
And they want you to be,
like them, not be yourself.
931
00:56:03,621 --> 00:56:05,187
You can take a boy
out of the hood,
932
00:56:05,231 --> 00:56:06,406
but you can't take
the hood out of a boy.
933
00:56:06,450 --> 00:56:08,016
I mean, you're talking
about Utah.
934
00:56:08,060 --> 00:56:10,671
That's Mormon country.
I mean, there's snow up there.
935
00:56:10,715 --> 00:56:13,021
You know, I can even
remember him telling me,
936
00:56:13,065 --> 00:56:15,110
"Man, I ain't never felt
nothing like this
before in my life."
937
00:56:15,154 --> 00:56:17,156
I'm like, "What?"
He said it was cold.
938
00:56:17,199 --> 00:56:18,418
[LAUGHS]
939
00:56:20,028 --> 00:56:22,640
MAD: You visit the snow,
it's lovely.
940
00:56:22,683 --> 00:56:24,772
You live in the snow,
it ain't lovely.
941
00:56:25,556 --> 00:56:28,689
Utah was not a place for me.
942
00:56:32,606 --> 00:56:33,607
I needed to go home.
943
00:56:36,175 --> 00:56:38,569
[ENGINE REVVING]
944
00:56:53,975 --> 00:56:55,673
LARRY: I think Mad
came back from Utah
945
00:56:55,716 --> 00:56:57,631
because it just...
It wasn't him.
946
00:56:57,675 --> 00:56:59,459
He misses the beach.
He misses...
947
00:56:59,503 --> 00:57:00,982
He misses everything
that we used to do.
948
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,870
What it feels like
to be back?
949
00:57:18,913 --> 00:57:21,525
I don't like
what I'm looking at.
950
00:57:21,568 --> 00:57:24,658
I'm looking at
the new changes
and trying to adapt to it,
951
00:57:24,702 --> 00:57:26,051
but there's really
nothing to it.
952
00:57:26,094 --> 00:57:27,487
It's like a showboat place.
953
00:57:29,228 --> 00:57:31,056
Back in the day,
954
00:57:31,099 --> 00:57:34,494
I used to live right up there
before it was Muscle Beach.
955
00:57:34,538 --> 00:57:35,756
It used to be just
an apartment.
956
00:57:38,455 --> 00:57:39,891
None of this was out here.
957
00:57:42,676 --> 00:57:44,722
[WAVES SPLASHING]
958
00:57:45,940 --> 00:57:47,768
[CHATTERING INDISTINCTLY]
959
00:57:52,033 --> 00:57:54,819
LARRY: My whole
way of thinking changed.
Everything about me.
960
00:57:54,862 --> 00:57:56,603
No more drugs,
no more drinking.
961
00:57:56,647 --> 00:57:59,171
I just work. That's it.
962
00:57:59,214 --> 00:58:02,522
I'm the appliance M.D.,
you know, I'm the doctor.
963
00:58:02,566 --> 00:58:04,785
I've been doing this now
going on about ten years.
964
00:58:04,829 --> 00:58:07,527
Something that was given to me
by a best friend of mine, D,
965
00:58:07,571 --> 00:58:09,137
another skater.
966
00:58:09,181 --> 00:58:10,312
Gave me a life.
967
00:58:14,578 --> 00:58:16,536
Venice today
is commercialized.
968
00:58:18,712 --> 00:58:20,279
It's not what it used to be.
969
00:58:24,109 --> 00:58:26,241
It's changed a lot.
970
00:58:26,285 --> 00:58:28,069
To me, I wouldn't
say for the better
971
00:58:28,113 --> 00:58:30,681
because it's...
It's too preppy now.
972
00:58:30,724 --> 00:58:34,815
It's not family-oriented
like it was when I grew up
here back in the '60s.
973
00:58:36,251 --> 00:58:37,688
That's new.
974
00:58:37,731 --> 00:58:39,690
The house here is new.
975
00:58:39,733 --> 00:58:41,126
Another new home going up.
976
00:58:42,954 --> 00:58:45,478
Now, it's like everything
is bought and sold in a week.
977
00:58:45,522 --> 00:58:47,262
Somebody come here,
"I don't like it.
Tear it down.
978
00:58:47,306 --> 00:58:49,047
"Throw something new up,
you know, another box."
979
00:58:51,615 --> 00:58:54,269
This right here,
they've changed everything.
980
00:58:54,313 --> 00:58:55,488
This is where
I grew up as a kid.
981
00:58:55,532 --> 00:58:57,534
This spot right here.
982
00:58:57,577 --> 00:58:59,710
And my grandmother
and grandfather lived
right here up front,
983
00:58:59,753 --> 00:59:01,059
but all of this has changed.
984
00:59:01,102 --> 00:59:02,451
This is a tree we planted.
985
00:59:05,150 --> 00:59:07,979
It was cool growing up here.
I really loved it.
986
00:59:08,022 --> 00:59:09,763
I mean, I love Venice
right to this day.
987
00:59:09,807 --> 00:59:12,331
And if I hit the lotto,
this thing's gonna come down
988
00:59:12,374 --> 00:59:13,811
'cause I'd give them
what they want
989
00:59:13,854 --> 00:59:15,813
just to build
the original house
that I grew up in
990
00:59:15,856 --> 00:59:17,597
right here on this spot.
991
00:59:17,641 --> 00:59:19,773
I would love to have it.
I really would.
992
00:59:23,603 --> 00:59:26,388
SALLY: I'm like a great
American tragedy now.
993
00:59:26,432 --> 00:59:29,174
Enormous potential,
and I'm living in a garage
994
00:59:29,217 --> 00:59:30,610
without a bathroom
and a kitchen.
995
00:59:33,004 --> 00:59:36,747
I'm living on $740 a month.
996
00:59:39,358 --> 00:59:43,101
I have about $20
a week for food.
997
00:59:52,763 --> 00:59:54,460
I keep a smile on my face,
998
00:59:54,503 --> 00:59:57,245
but it's really
humiliating to be this poor.
999
00:59:57,289 --> 01:00:00,422
It's really humiliating
to never have money
1000
01:00:00,466 --> 01:00:02,773
and never be able
to buy anything,
never be able to do anything.
1001
01:00:20,312 --> 01:00:22,662
MICHELLE: The job that
he's now doing,
which is security,
1002
01:00:22,706 --> 01:00:24,795
Mad doesn't like
to be micromanaged.
1003
01:00:26,710 --> 01:00:29,016
He's one of those
who needs a job
1004
01:00:29,060 --> 01:00:31,410
that you tell him what to do,
and he just goes and does it.
1005
01:00:38,678 --> 01:00:42,116
MAD: I'm working at an area
I used to have fun at.
1006
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,902
I'm working at a beach
I used to come down
1007
01:00:44,945 --> 01:00:46,991
and be known
when everybody comes by.
1008
01:00:48,601 --> 01:00:49,907
"Mad!"
1009
01:00:51,299 --> 01:00:52,605
Yeah.
1010
01:00:53,650 --> 01:00:56,609
Do I like it? No, I do not.
1011
01:00:56,653 --> 01:00:59,917
I gotta pretend like
I'm happy to see these people.
1012
01:01:02,006 --> 01:01:03,790
Every time I go apply
for a job,
1013
01:01:03,834 --> 01:01:05,662
they ask you that
one question right there,
1014
01:01:05,705 --> 01:01:07,185
"Have you ever been arrested?"
1015
01:01:07,620 --> 01:01:08,926
I'm stuck.
1016
01:01:11,755 --> 01:01:13,887
Am I a harsh criminal? No.
1017
01:01:15,149 --> 01:01:17,238
But in the eyes
of the world, I am.
1018
01:01:20,154 --> 01:01:21,939
People are like,
"What you crying about?"
1019
01:01:21,982 --> 01:01:23,462
"You won't believe
what I went through
1020
01:01:23,505 --> 01:01:26,508
"just to get a couple of years
of roller skating in."
1021
01:01:32,906 --> 01:01:34,908
TERRELL: Racism is
actually worse today.
1022
01:01:34,952 --> 01:01:36,910
Before cameras
and all of that stuff,
1023
01:01:36,954 --> 01:01:38,956
brothers were getting
pulled over and...
1024
01:01:38,999 --> 01:01:40,653
I've been pulled over
and handcuffed
1025
01:01:40,697 --> 01:01:42,916
and had to sit on a curb
while they go through my car
1026
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:46,354
at least 12, 15 times,
for no reason,
and they let you go.
1027
01:01:46,398 --> 01:01:47,312
"Okay, you don't
have anything."
1028
01:01:47,355 --> 01:01:49,183
[CLAMORING]
1029
01:01:49,227 --> 01:01:50,576
But it has gotten worse
1030
01:01:50,619 --> 01:01:52,317
because it's gone
from ass-kickings
1031
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,449
to, like, unarmed shootings.
1032
01:01:54,493 --> 01:01:58,671
Now there's cameras
and Twitter and Facebook,
1033
01:01:58,715 --> 01:02:01,152
and so people are filming it
and posting it
1034
01:02:01,195 --> 01:02:02,980
before cops can even,
like, say,
1035
01:02:03,023 --> 01:02:04,982
"Oh, no, we didn't do it."
"Yeah, you did."
1036
01:02:05,025 --> 01:02:06,766
-[SIREN BLARING]
-[SHOUTING INDISTINCTLY]
1037
01:02:06,810 --> 01:02:09,726
JIMMY: I don't hear of
black-on-white crime as much,
1038
01:02:09,769 --> 01:02:12,990
but I do hear of
police-on-people crime a lot.
1039
01:02:13,033 --> 01:02:14,774
To me, that's the racism.
1040
01:02:18,517 --> 01:02:19,997
[HELICOPTER HOVERING]
1041
01:02:22,173 --> 01:02:24,653
SALLY: Meanwhile, Venice
has been gentrified
1042
01:02:24,697 --> 01:02:27,526
and ethnically cleansed
of the positive
black role models
1043
01:02:27,569 --> 01:02:30,485
that the skaters once were
1044
01:02:30,529 --> 01:02:35,752
so that, what I would call
the terrified affluent,
feel safer.
1045
01:02:38,145 --> 01:02:40,974
That's one of the many
downsides of racism,
1046
01:02:41,018 --> 01:02:43,760
that it causes people
to misjudge good people
1047
01:02:43,803 --> 01:02:46,458
or a whole neighborhood as bad
1048
01:02:46,501 --> 01:02:48,634
out of sheer
brainwashed terror,
1049
01:02:48,677 --> 01:02:50,941
and they trust people
that they shouldn't
1050
01:02:50,984 --> 01:02:52,899
just because they
look a certain way.
1051
01:02:55,032 --> 01:02:59,906
It's a shame that America
is still so plagued by racism,
1052
01:02:59,950 --> 01:03:01,516
but here we are.
1053
01:03:07,784 --> 01:03:10,395
[PEOPLE LAUGHING]
1054
01:03:10,438 --> 01:03:11,788
[CHATTERING INDISTINCTLY]
1055
01:03:14,486 --> 01:03:17,271
You don't have
to go do this shit.
1056
01:03:17,315 --> 01:03:19,665
MAD: It was pretty shocking
when Michelle had set up
1057
01:03:19,708 --> 01:03:22,102
a birthday for my 55th year.
1058
01:03:23,495 --> 01:03:26,193
The people that she had
come to that party.
1059
01:03:26,237 --> 01:03:28,021
She has surprises
all left and right,
1060
01:03:28,065 --> 01:03:30,023
and they walked in
one at a time.
1061
01:03:30,067 --> 01:03:33,940
Just about everybody
that came in
came off that beach.
1062
01:03:33,984 --> 01:03:35,594
MAN: There you go. The 1980s.
1063
01:03:37,857 --> 01:03:39,903
TERRELL: Whenever we all
get together,
1064
01:03:39,946 --> 01:03:43,036
it's nothing but,
like, but just pure
reminiscing and fun.
1065
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:46,213
It just takes me back
to those days.
1066
01:03:46,257 --> 01:03:47,780
LARRY: We started talking
about skating and stuff.
1067
01:03:47,824 --> 01:03:49,216
I said "You gotta
come out and skate."
1068
01:03:50,130 --> 01:03:52,611
[ALL LAUGHING]
1069
01:03:53,655 --> 01:03:54,831
Oh, my God.
1070
01:03:54,874 --> 01:03:57,485
Y'all know what I'm saying.
1071
01:03:57,529 --> 01:03:59,400
I'm not going
to show this to nobody.
1072
01:03:59,444 --> 01:04:01,794
They already said,
before and after.
1073
01:04:01,838 --> 01:04:03,970
MAD: It hit me
like a ton of bricks
1074
01:04:04,014 --> 01:04:05,798
'cause all I'm thinking
about is
1075
01:04:07,017 --> 01:04:10,281
how it's been invigorating,
1076
01:04:11,543 --> 01:04:12,849
a tight turn,
1077
01:04:14,807 --> 01:04:16,069
slow motion.
1078
01:04:18,245 --> 01:04:19,725
Hitting that split.
1079
01:04:20,857 --> 01:04:22,423
I cannot do that now.
1080
01:04:24,338 --> 01:04:26,863
People I haven't
seen in a while,
thanks for coming out.
1081
01:04:28,299 --> 01:04:29,343
Damn.
1082
01:04:43,749 --> 01:04:45,098
Elvis, want some?
1083
01:04:48,885 --> 01:04:50,060
Don't tell the other ones.
1084
01:04:53,585 --> 01:04:56,849
I can't keep nothing around
if they can't do
what it used to do.
1085
01:04:56,893 --> 01:05:00,331
Michelle is more, like,
you wanna keep 'em
till they disintegrate.
1086
01:05:00,374 --> 01:05:02,507
But, basically,
when they get old,
1087
01:05:02,550 --> 01:05:03,987
it's time for me
to get rid of them
1088
01:05:04,030 --> 01:05:05,249
because I ain't
into that nursing.
1089
01:05:05,292 --> 01:05:07,686
You can't get up,
you can't sit down,
1090
01:05:07,729 --> 01:05:09,209
to me, you're done.
1091
01:05:10,776 --> 01:05:13,344
Come on.
1092
01:05:13,387 --> 01:05:15,520
MICHELLE: I would love
to see him skate again,
1093
01:05:15,563 --> 01:05:19,176
but I don't think, physically,
he's capable of doing that.
1094
01:05:20,525 --> 01:05:24,137
He had a huge stroke in 2009.
1095
01:05:25,660 --> 01:05:27,706
It messed up his equilibrium.
1096
01:05:28,359 --> 01:05:30,491
So, the problem is,
1097
01:05:30,535 --> 01:05:32,276
the turns
and things like that,
1098
01:05:32,319 --> 01:05:33,886
throw him totally off balance.
1099
01:05:34,974 --> 01:05:38,325
With skating,
he is a perfectionist.
1100
01:05:38,369 --> 01:05:40,371
If he can't do it right,
he doesn't wanna do it at all.
1101
01:05:45,637 --> 01:05:47,639
Once I'm sitting down,
I'm cool.
1102
01:05:47,682 --> 01:05:50,033
When I'm standing up,
that's somewhat of a problem.
1103
01:05:50,076 --> 01:05:52,078
All right.
1104
01:05:52,122 --> 01:05:53,514
LARRY: He's getting
a lot older now.
1105
01:05:53,558 --> 01:05:55,821
He can't do the same
things he used to.
1106
01:05:55,864 --> 01:05:58,302
I mean, if you looked at
the before and afters of him,
1107
01:05:58,345 --> 01:06:00,173
and I'm talking about
somebody that could skate,
1108
01:06:00,217 --> 01:06:01,609
oh, yeah.
1109
01:06:01,653 --> 01:06:03,437
I mean...
1110
01:06:03,481 --> 01:06:07,746
And if he can't do it
the way he used to,
he's not gonna touch it.
1111
01:06:10,227 --> 01:06:12,098
MAD: This is my
roller skating bag.
1112
01:06:13,012 --> 01:06:16,581
Those skates are
the new ones.
1113
01:06:16,624 --> 01:06:18,148
Why the heel?
1114
01:06:18,191 --> 01:06:19,584
-They all come with it.
-I thought they come flat.
1115
01:06:19,627 --> 01:06:22,282
-Oh, they don't.
-This is like a dancing shoe.
1116
01:06:22,326 --> 01:06:24,458
-Disco dancing.
-No.
1117
01:06:24,502 --> 01:06:26,373
You don't know anything
about roller skating.
1118
01:06:26,417 --> 01:06:28,549
-I don't.
-I might put them back on.
1119
01:06:30,073 --> 01:06:32,249
And I think
about it a lot, but...
1120
01:06:40,474 --> 01:06:42,433
MAD: Thought it was a joke.
1121
01:06:42,476 --> 01:06:44,348
I'm like, "Really?
Are you kidding?"
1122
01:06:44,391 --> 01:06:46,263
All I gotta do
is just be there.
1123
01:06:46,872 --> 01:06:48,352
I'm like, "Why not?"
1124
01:06:51,050 --> 01:06:52,486
MAD: I need my hush stretched.
1125
01:06:57,839 --> 01:07:00,581
Gotta be like Michael Jordan
in that last shot.
1126
01:07:00,625 --> 01:07:02,496
That's the only thing
they remember.
1127
01:07:02,540 --> 01:07:05,891
The last shot went in
and won that series with it.
1128
01:07:05,934 --> 01:07:09,721
And for me to put
them things on and do that...
1129
01:07:09,764 --> 01:07:13,420
Just to talk about it
all day long cannot do that.
1130
01:07:13,464 --> 01:07:16,336
SALLY: I'd like to
see us all out there
1131
01:07:16,380 --> 01:07:19,035
skating to those
really dynamic,
1132
01:07:19,078 --> 01:07:21,211
you know, funky '80s tunes
1133
01:07:23,648 --> 01:07:26,216
where that bass just
makes you grind
your heart out,
1134
01:07:31,917 --> 01:07:38,054
and remind people
what life can be like
when it's authentic.
1135
01:07:48,803 --> 01:07:50,762
I could just hear it now,
you know.
1136
01:07:50,805 --> 01:07:53,243
Mad's like,
"Five, six, seven, eight."
1137
01:07:53,286 --> 01:07:54,940
And there it would be,
you know.
1138
01:07:57,682 --> 01:07:59,336
[CHATTERING INDISTINCTLY]
1139
01:08:10,956 --> 01:08:12,305
DUVAL: Once Mad come out here,
1140
01:08:12,349 --> 01:08:14,525
he'll pretty much
bring us back.
1141
01:08:14,568 --> 01:08:17,658
Problem is, with all
the old school gang
out here.
1142
01:08:17,702 --> 01:08:19,965
You're gonna see
some dramatic changes.
1143
01:08:20,008 --> 01:08:21,488
[FUNK MUSIC PLAYING]
1144
01:08:26,667 --> 01:08:28,191
HOST: Venice Beach, hands up!
1145
01:08:28,234 --> 01:08:30,758
Let me hear you
make some noise!
1146
01:08:30,802 --> 01:08:33,021
[CROWD CHEERING]
1147
01:08:33,065 --> 01:08:36,199
We have a lot of things
we've been doing
over the last 30-plus years.
1148
01:08:36,242 --> 01:08:40,072
We've been doing
line dances, we've been
doing choreography,
1149
01:08:40,116 --> 01:08:44,511
so we genuinely
appreciate you for coming out
and hanging out with us.
1150
01:08:44,555 --> 01:08:46,818
We got Larry
right here, folks.
1151
01:08:46,861 --> 01:08:48,515
Larry is one of the OGs.
1152
01:08:48,559 --> 01:08:51,039
He's one of the guys
that started line dancing.
1153
01:08:51,083 --> 01:08:53,129
We got Duval,
Superman in the house.
1154
01:08:53,172 --> 01:08:55,392
[CROWD CHEERING]
1155
01:08:55,435 --> 01:09:00,832
There's a reason
that we have what is now
called skate dance plaza.
1156
01:09:00,875 --> 01:09:03,704
We fought for it, folks.
We all went to city hall.
1157
01:09:03,748 --> 01:09:05,271
We fought with
the police, folks.
1158
01:09:05,315 --> 01:09:06,316
All the time.
1159
01:09:09,014 --> 01:09:10,711
Who wants
to just dance, folks?
1160
01:09:10,755 --> 01:09:12,757
Who wants to follow
this man right here, folks?
1161
01:09:15,020 --> 01:09:17,718
We wanted
to follow Mad, folks.
1162
01:09:17,762 --> 01:09:19,851
This is the man
who started the craze.
1163
01:09:20,982 --> 01:09:23,246
One, two, three,
give it to him!
1164
01:09:23,289 --> 01:09:24,812
[CROWD CHEERING]
1165
01:09:31,819 --> 01:09:33,386
Play the music, Maestro.
1166
01:09:35,258 --> 01:09:38,261
Everybody who knows
what's called a line dance,
1167
01:09:38,304 --> 01:09:41,786
he's the very first person
I ever danced with.
He taught me all this.
1168
01:09:42,569 --> 01:09:44,484
[ NASTY ROCKPLAYING]
1169
01:09:58,324 --> 01:09:59,673
MAD: When them songs came on,
1170
01:09:59,717 --> 01:10:01,414
I didn't know how
to react to that.
1171
01:10:01,458 --> 01:10:03,634
I mean, that fucked
with me real bad.
1172
01:10:03,677 --> 01:10:07,855
And I had to turn around
and face these people
and put on a show.
1173
01:10:10,597 --> 01:10:14,384
In my mind, I was doing
this, this, and this,
and this.
1174
01:10:14,427 --> 01:10:15,994
But I'm standing there.
1175
01:10:21,608 --> 01:10:25,525
I said, "I can't. I can't.
I need to leave."
1176
01:10:41,672 --> 01:10:42,803
Come on, y'all.
1177
01:10:45,806 --> 01:10:50,028
All of a sudden,
my energy level went low.
1178
01:10:50,071 --> 01:10:51,247
Very low.
1179
01:10:54,162 --> 01:10:55,860
I just turned around.
1180
01:10:56,687 --> 01:10:58,079
"You guys go ahead."
1181
01:10:59,298 --> 01:11:01,126
"It's your show now,
not mine."
1182
01:11:13,443 --> 01:11:16,141
Hit me real hard,
what I can't do.
1183
01:11:16,184 --> 01:11:17,664
This is hurt.
1184
01:11:21,102 --> 01:11:24,018
And I never did
roller skating when it hurt.
1185
01:11:24,062 --> 01:11:27,370
Like, deep down,
up in here, this shit
really hurts.
1186
01:11:43,386 --> 01:11:44,474
[SNIFFLES]
1187
01:11:53,918 --> 01:11:56,964
Saying to myself
the whole time, "This is it."
1188
01:11:59,924 --> 01:12:03,101
I was eager when it was fun.
It's not fun no more.
1189
01:12:06,626 --> 01:12:09,499
Look at how easy it is
for everybody else to do it.
1190
01:12:16,767 --> 01:12:18,725
And you wonder why
I don't come back.
1191
01:12:38,832 --> 01:12:40,747
JIMMY: I don't know
what I would do without Mad.
1192
01:12:40,791 --> 01:12:42,575
I don't know where
I would have been
1193
01:12:42,619 --> 01:12:43,707
if Mad hadn't
been there for me.
1194
01:12:45,186 --> 01:12:46,884
The heart of Venice
right here.
1195
01:12:46,927 --> 01:12:48,712
The heart of skating
right here.
1196
01:12:50,975 --> 01:12:54,239
JIMMY: Thirty-five
years later, I still can't
wait for the weekend.
1197
01:12:54,282 --> 01:12:56,067
You can call Venice
our Never Never Land.
1198
01:12:57,242 --> 01:12:59,375
We never grew up.
1199
01:12:59,418 --> 01:13:01,377
We're the Peter Pans
of Venice.
1200
01:13:07,208 --> 01:13:09,080
TERRELL: Skating
kept me out of trouble.
1201
01:13:11,343 --> 01:13:13,780
That's one thing Mad
told me, like,
always try to be the best.
1202
01:13:13,824 --> 01:13:16,000
So when it became time
for me to be a dad,
1203
01:13:16,043 --> 01:13:17,697
even though I was young
and kinda scared,
1204
01:13:17,741 --> 01:13:20,004
and not knowing
what the hell I was doing,
1205
01:13:20,047 --> 01:13:21,614
I still wanted
to be a good dad.
1206
01:13:23,094 --> 01:13:27,403
So, skating gave me a career
and a life and a direction.
1207
01:13:28,491 --> 01:13:30,580
I signed with the agency,
1208
01:13:30,623 --> 01:13:33,321
I believe, three weeks
after my daughter was born.
1209
01:13:33,365 --> 01:13:35,715
We got iPod,
and then there
was Mountain Dew.
1210
01:13:36,847 --> 01:13:40,328
It put my daughter
through school.
1211
01:13:40,372 --> 01:13:44,507
My daughter graduated
from college in three years.
Ivy League School.
1212
01:13:44,550 --> 01:13:46,726
My son is at
Indiana University.
1213
01:13:48,815 --> 01:13:50,426
Venice raised me.
1214
01:13:51,514 --> 01:13:52,993
It made me the man
that I am.
1215
01:13:54,647 --> 01:13:56,649
Venice is what
taught me real skating.
1216
01:14:01,132 --> 01:14:03,439
LARRY: Some people may
think that the dream is dead.
1217
01:14:03,482 --> 01:14:06,485
To me, it's, nah,
it hasn't gone anywhere.
It's still here.
1218
01:14:06,529 --> 01:14:08,835
And as long
as it remains here,
it'll never die.
1219
01:14:11,664 --> 01:14:15,755
I can always replay it
over and over and over
and over and over again.
1220
01:14:17,583 --> 01:14:19,106
So it's not gonna leave me.
1221
01:14:20,543 --> 01:14:22,022
It's a part of me,
and I love it.
1222
01:14:24,242 --> 01:14:26,462
SALLY: You know, I think
part of our connection
1223
01:14:26,505 --> 01:14:29,639
is we both have enormous
amount of pride,
probably to our detriment.
1224
01:14:29,682 --> 01:14:34,295
We think of ourselves
as being very strong
and very physically fit.
1225
01:14:34,339 --> 01:14:36,863
I mean, shoot, I'm 61.
1226
01:14:36,907 --> 01:14:39,779
You know, I've got
arthritis, cancer,
ripped cartilage.
1227
01:14:39,823 --> 01:14:41,868
All my joints
are bone-on-bone now.
1228
01:14:41,912 --> 01:14:43,479
I'm still skating
'cause I love it that much.
1229
01:14:46,525 --> 01:14:48,832
Skating is still
the greatest joy in my life.
1230
01:14:50,964 --> 01:14:52,705
It gives you so much joy
1231
01:14:52,749 --> 01:14:55,360
that even excruciating
physical pain is like...
1232
01:14:55,403 --> 01:14:56,492
"I don't care."
1233
01:15:00,408 --> 01:15:04,151
I feel so grateful that
I happened to be
1234
01:15:04,195 --> 01:15:07,285
in Venice Beach at that
particular time in history,
1235
01:15:07,328 --> 01:15:09,069
and to be a part
of that scene
1236
01:15:09,113 --> 01:15:11,332
because there'll never be
anything like it ever again.
1237
01:15:11,376 --> 01:15:12,246
It's just incredible.
1238
01:15:16,947 --> 01:15:18,383
And there they are.
1239
01:15:19,732 --> 01:15:21,517
They're precious.
1240
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:23,562
If anything happened to these,
1241
01:15:23,606 --> 01:15:25,259
oh, my God,
what would I do?
1242
01:15:25,303 --> 01:15:26,826
I couldn't replace them.
I'd die.
1243
01:15:30,613 --> 01:15:33,093
DUVAL: Skating, to me,
is like breathing.
1244
01:15:33,137 --> 01:15:35,705
And I'll be like
a fish out of water.
1245
01:15:36,532 --> 01:15:38,316
Superman without the sky.
1246
01:15:44,322 --> 01:15:46,367
SALLY: Roller skaters
are family.
1247
01:15:46,411 --> 01:15:50,720
I'll always feel connected
to all my Venice Beach
peeps, you know.
1248
01:15:50,763 --> 01:15:52,417
[ALL CLAMORING]
1249
01:15:52,460 --> 01:15:53,200
[CAMERA CLICKS]
1250
01:16:09,652 --> 01:16:14,570
MICHELLE: There's no way
to explain the way
Venice Beach was 20 years ago.
1251
01:16:17,094 --> 01:16:20,967
There's not the same aura
about the whole entire area.
1252
01:16:26,233 --> 01:16:28,975
He misses what it was,
not what it is now.
1253
01:16:32,022 --> 01:16:34,633
Because of the police
and the music,
1254
01:16:34,677 --> 01:16:36,330
it can never be like it was.
1255
01:16:39,029 --> 01:16:41,074
SALLY: But I still have
this dream
1256
01:16:41,118 --> 01:16:44,382
that he'll put
his skates on again
1257
01:16:44,425 --> 01:16:47,037
and I'll be skating somewhere,
1258
01:16:48,821 --> 01:16:50,954
and he'll just jump in there.
1259
01:16:50,997 --> 01:16:53,434
And for those few moments,
1260
01:16:54,697 --> 01:16:57,395
we'll be what we always
knew we could be,
1261
01:16:58,222 --> 01:16:59,440
just phenomenal.
1262
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:02,443
MAD: I still dream about it.
1263
01:17:07,797 --> 01:17:09,929
I dream about it every day.
1264
01:17:26,642 --> 01:17:28,121
Would you like to be filmed?
1265
01:17:28,165 --> 01:17:31,168
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