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U�iti se pomeni ne vedeti;
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hoteti pomeni ne mo�i.
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U�iti se pomeni ne vedeti;
hoteti pomeni ne mo�i.
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Tonio Kr�ger �
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je avtobiografski lik �
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Thomasa Manna.
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To pomeni, da je mnogo
pisateljevih lastnosti uporabil �
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v vedenjskih vzorcih lika.
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S tem je la�je govoril o stvareh,
ki so ga bremenile.
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Thomas Mann
ni �ivel po ustaljenih normah �
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in navadah �asa,
v katerem je bival.
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Problematiko tedanje dru�be
je prikazal �
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z izredno
psiholo�ko prodornostjo �
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in globoko osebno prizadetostjo.
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Nad�lovek Robi.
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Po nem�ko, prosim!
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Profesor, oprostite prosim.
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Bila sva na vaji za �
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pustni koncert.
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Pustni koncert �
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Ne, ne, lahko ostaneta tukaj.
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Luka.
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Zadostno.
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Razumem tvoj polo�aj,
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ampak znanje se ne ozira
na zunanje vplive.
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Je, kakr�no je.
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Sedi.
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Nik,
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�e dolgo se ukvarjate
s Toniem Kr�gerjem.
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Bi ga znal opisati?
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Ne vem.
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Zdi se mi �
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� da ima svetle lase
in modre o�i.
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Ne vem natan�no.
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Rekel bi,
da novele nismo prebrali.
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Kak�en pa je potem njegov prijatelj?
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Hans Hansen?
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Hvala, Nik. Sedi.
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Sabina,
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povej mi,
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kak�en odnos pa imata
Tonio in Hans?
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Mislim, da �
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� Hans Tonia ne mara.
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Zakaj pa?
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Pojasni.
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Raje se dru�i z drugimi.
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Ja.
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Zakaj?
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Sedi.
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Mojca,
pridi gor.
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Pridi, pridi.
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Kako bi opisala besedo "zguba"?
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Poi��i. "Zguba".
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Mozart je �e pri petih letih vedel,
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kaj ho�e.
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No, morda so to vedeli njegovi star�i.
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Dobro bi bilo,
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�e bi ve� mladih imelo take star�e.
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Ampak niste vsi Mozarti.
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Si na�la?
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No, preberi.
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Zguba. Samostalnik. Slab�alno.
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Nepomemben, nekoristen �lovek.
"Kako ji more biti tak�na zguba v�e�."
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Kot psovka - "poberi se, zguba".
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Bi rada to postala?
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�e bi te jaz u�il �e prej�nja leta,
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bi bilo druga�e.
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Ne bi toliko �
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� ampak bi vedela, kaj ho�e�.
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Tako kot si vedela, ko si me vpra�ala,
zakaj �ivimo.
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Sabina, ima� nekaj.
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Za�ni to uporabljati.
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Pa naprej igraj klavir. Dobro ti gre.
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Zelo dobro.
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Bistveno bolje kot nem��ina.
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Primo�, pridi.
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Pridi, pridi.
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Mir,
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lahko se mu �e kdo pridru�i.
Pridi, pridi.
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Najstarej�i sin Thomasa Manna �
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je storil samomor.
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Thomas Mann
ni hotel priti na pogreb lastnega sina.
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Kaj misli�,
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zakaj je bilo temu tako?
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To ni del snovi.
�Ne �
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Thomas Mann je poglavitni del snovi.
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Mannov najstarej�i
sin Klaus je bil tudi pisatelj,
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tako, kot njegova sestra �
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Ni ga bilo na pogreb,
ker sta bila oba pisatelja?
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Tega ni bilo nikjer v snovi.
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Zanima me tvoje mnenje.
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Mnenje.
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Kako bi opredelil besedo "mnenje"?
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Mnenje je nekaj, kar ima� �
Kar si misli� o neki stvari.
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Dobro. Mi torej lahko
sedaj odgovori� na vpra�anje?
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Po nem�ko!
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Ne razumem.
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Ni ga bilo na pogreb,
ker ga je bilo verjetno sram.
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Sram?
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Zanimivo.
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Misli�, da se te tvoji star�i
tudi kdaj sramujejo?
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Po nem�ko, prosim.
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Misli�, da je tvoje star�e
kdaj sram zaradi tvojih dejanj?
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Meni se to ne zdi
te�ko vpra�anje.
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�e se je Sabina ubila,
�e ne pomeni,
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da se moramo vsi
ukvarjati s tem.
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Hvala.
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Sedi.
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Thomas Mann
je po migraciji v Ameriko izjavil,
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da je Nem�ija tam, kjer je on.
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�ivel je tako, da je vedno podpiral
ideje �lovekove svobode.
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Kaj?
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A je kaj narobe?
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Kdaj pa napo�i pravi trenutek,
da gremo naprej?
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Jutri? Pojutri�njem?
�ez en teden?
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Ne.
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Jaz ne skrbim zase,
ampak za vas.
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Je �as za �alovanje �
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in je �as za �ivljenje.
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Se je zgodilo.
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Se je.
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�ivljenje gre naprej.
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Thomas Mann je skozi svojo �ivljenjsko
pot vedno izra�al na�ela humanizma,
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saj je na lastni ko�i
do�ivel mnogo,
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od totalitarizma
do smrti v dru�ini.
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Vse to je vplivalo
na njegove romane,
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in je pomembno
za razumevanje njegovih del �
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o katerih boste jutri pisali esej.
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�lovekova smrt, je bolj zadeva
svojcev, kot njega samega.
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Odprem okno.
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Povejte, kaj se z oknom dogaja?
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Okno �
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se odpira.
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Kaj se je zgodilo?
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Okno �
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je v prvem stavku predmet,
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v drugem pa postane osebek.
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Glagolski na�in se iz tvornega
spremeni v trpnega.
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Ja, prosim?
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Radi bi se opravi�ili
za radijsko oddajo.
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Nismo vedeli, da �
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Kako?
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Ja �
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In zakaj?
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Do �esa je pri�lo?
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Do tega, da ste me �
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pred celo �olo
oklicali za nacista?
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Prosim, umirite se �
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Ne vem, �e se zavedate,
kaj govorite �
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Nasvidenje!
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�lovekova smrt,
je bolj zadeva svojcev �
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kot njega samega.
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Thomas Mann.
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Vtem trenutku veliko
ljudi razmi�lja o Sabini.
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O njej razmi�ljam tudi jaz,
pa ne samo zato, ker o njej pi�em.
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O njej razmi�ljajo njeni star�i,
ki so �alostni in jo pogre�ajo.
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Najbr� jo pogre�a tudi njena
ma�ka Frida, ki spi na njeni postelji,
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odkar je ni.
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Moj fant Luka pogre�a
dva �loveka hkrati �
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in ne morem si predstavljati,
kako to boli.
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Kljub vsemu verjamem,
da jo pogre�ajo tudi tisti,
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za katere se na prvi pogled zdi,
da je ne.
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Kamor koli se obrne�,
vidi� Sabino.
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Ko gleda� skozi okno,
ko hodi� po hodniku,
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zve�er, tik preden zaspi�
in zjutraj, ko se zbudi�.
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Ampak Sabina ne pogre�a nikogar.
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Sabina se je re�ila tega,
da bi kadar koli kogar koli pogre�ala.
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Sabina si je s svojim dejanjem
zagotovila,
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da ne bo nikoli do�ivela tega,
kar je povzro�ila nam.
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Ne vemo, zakaj je to storila -
in nikoli ne bomo izvedeli.
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Mogo�e je treba spo�tovati
�lovekovo odlo�itev,
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ampak ne takrat,
ko vpliva na druge.
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Ampak mene ne zanima,
zakaj je to naredila,
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ker vem, da v tistem trenutku
ni mislila name.
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Ali na star�e
ali na svojo ma�ko.
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Mislila je samo nase, jaz pa bom
do konca �ivljenja mislila nanjo.
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In tako mo�no kot jo pogre�am,
tako jo tudi sovra�im.
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Tako sem jezna nanjo,
da bi jo �e enkrat ubila,
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�e bi se prikazala pred mano.
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Mogo�e to lahko re�em, ker vem,
da se to ne bo zgodilo.
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Sabina, pustila si me samo.
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Pustila si nas same.
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In jezna sem,
ker ne ve�, kako to boli.
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Hkrati pa si �elim le, da bi ti
to lahko povedala v obraz �
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in te nato objela.
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