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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:15,580 --> 00:00:17,800 [statics] 2 00:00:20,716 --> 00:00:22,718 [jukebox operating] 3 00:00:22,761 --> 00:00:26,200 Everything has to begin somewhere, everything. 4 00:00:26,243 --> 00:00:32,075 No matter where you went in 1956, no matter what neighborhood, what project, 5 00:00:32,119 --> 00:00:35,252 there was a group doo-wopping, they were singing, making harmony. 6 00:00:35,296 --> 00:00:37,602 You heard harmony every place you went. 7 00:00:37,646 --> 00:00:40,736 [music playing] 8 00:00:40,779 --> 00:00:43,130 What is doo-wop? I wish I knew. 9 00:00:43,173 --> 00:00:45,567 If you talk to ten people in this music business, 10 00:00:45,610 --> 00:00:47,351 they'll give you ten different answers. 11 00:00:47,395 --> 00:00:50,354 Doo-wop means great music. 12 00:00:50,398 --> 00:00:53,357 Harmony, harmony, harmony. No band, no nothing. 13 00:00:53,401 --> 00:00:55,533 I don't know who came up with that term. 14 00:00:55,577 --> 00:00:58,449 I looked it up, doo-wop in the Webster's dictionary... 15 00:00:58,493 --> 00:00:59,494 Street corner. 16 00:00:59,537 --> 00:01:00,582 Homegrown music. 17 00:01:00,625 --> 00:01:03,063 Acapellas, street corner harmony. 18 00:01:03,106 --> 00:01:04,281 It's a feeling. 19 00:01:04,325 --> 00:01:06,762 I would call it really rhythm and blues. 20 00:01:09,504 --> 00:01:13,377 Doo-wop. Do-bee-do-bee-do-wop. Do-bee-do-bee-do-wop. 21 00:01:13,421 --> 00:01:16,206 They would doo-wop, we were R&B singers. 22 00:01:16,250 --> 00:01:19,688 Four or five guys standing on the corner singing that wonderful music. 23 00:01:19,731 --> 00:01:22,169 And we said, "Well if they can do that, we could do that." 24 00:01:25,259 --> 00:01:29,741 One lady said that she had conceived four children on that song. 25 00:01:29,785 --> 00:01:33,093 I don't know if I should take credit for it or apologize. 26 00:01:34,181 --> 00:01:39,229 We paved the way for Rihanna, Beyoncé, Destiny's Child. 27 00:01:39,273 --> 00:01:44,104 When I first heard Boyz II Men, New Edition, Backstreet Boys, all that's doo-wop. 28 00:01:44,147 --> 00:01:47,150 They should acknowledge us because if it wasn't for us, they wouldn't be here. 29 00:01:47,194 --> 00:01:51,589 There would be nobody out there doing anything if they didn't reach back 30 00:01:51,633 --> 00:01:54,679 into what we put down as that foundation. 31 00:01:54,723 --> 00:01:56,681 You know as long as there's teenage girls out there, 32 00:01:56,725 --> 00:01:59,119 I think vocal harmony groups will be around. 33 00:01:59,162 --> 00:02:01,425 It was good music then, it's good now, 34 00:02:01,469 --> 00:02:04,559 it's gonna be good in the future when the next generation recreates it. 35 00:02:06,169 --> 00:02:09,346 That period of time, some of the greatest music, 36 00:02:09,390 --> 00:02:11,696 greatest singers, greatest groups in history. 37 00:02:11,740 --> 00:02:16,136 That was the beginning of a revolution that has never ended. 38 00:02:16,179 --> 00:02:21,315 [music playing] 39 00:02:24,709 --> 00:02:28,887 When I was in gospel, we learned how to hum before we learned to ever sing. 40 00:02:28,931 --> 00:02:31,716 You know, my mother used to go-- [hums] 41 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,196 I said, "Whoa!" 42 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,242 [music playing] 43 00:02:46,253 --> 00:02:49,604 The do-wop as you call them, I call them street corner harmony groups, 44 00:02:49,647 --> 00:02:51,736 came from gospel. 45 00:02:52,868 --> 00:02:59,483 If you did have some talent, it was-- usually it came out in the church. 46 00:02:59,527 --> 00:03:03,792 We imitated a lot of the groups that were by the church groups 47 00:03:03,835 --> 00:03:07,535 that's where it basically comes from. Soul Stirrers-- 48 00:03:08,362 --> 00:03:11,321 whatever they were, the patterns they would use, 49 00:03:11,365 --> 00:03:14,933 we would use that into rock and roll and rhythm and blues. 50 00:03:19,938 --> 00:03:22,550 My mom was a gospel singer. 51 00:03:22,593 --> 00:03:25,466 and through that is where I met Sam Cooke 52 00:03:25,509 --> 00:03:27,859 and he sang with a group called the Soul Stirrers. 53 00:03:27,903 --> 00:03:30,862 So, I got to meet a lot of wonderful gospel singers 54 00:03:30,906 --> 00:03:34,910 and my mom used to take me around to all of the churches and places she would sing 55 00:03:34,953 --> 00:03:38,696 in the tri-state area. So, I would sit there and listen to her 56 00:03:38,740 --> 00:03:42,265 and listen to them sing and-- and I got very inspired. 57 00:03:42,309 --> 00:03:45,877 I would listen to the High Lows which weren't really a doo-wop group necessarily, 58 00:03:45,921 --> 00:03:50,665 but they were male vocal group. the Swan Silvertones and-- and groups like that 59 00:03:50,708 --> 00:03:55,278 that were gospel in nature. So, you had call and response happening 60 00:03:55,322 --> 00:03:58,325 or where you'd have a lead vocalist and then the other three vocalists 61 00:03:58,368 --> 00:04:01,545 echoing what he was singing. That was doo-wop. 62 00:04:01,589 --> 00:04:04,809 It was kind of like standing under the streetlight on the street corner 63 00:04:04,853 --> 00:04:07,290 and just starting parts and just-- just singing. 64 00:04:07,334 --> 00:04:09,031 So, it was always a part of our heritage. 65 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,907 Pretty soon when I got-- so I'd say, "I'm tired of going to church singing. 66 00:04:15,951 --> 00:04:17,822 I gotta make some money." 67 00:04:17,866 --> 00:04:23,306 The evolution of doo-wop music or harmonizing of music 68 00:04:23,350 --> 00:04:27,919 came from these guys like the Mills Brothers, the Ink Spots. 69 00:04:27,963 --> 00:04:32,402 ["If I didn't care" by Ink Spots playing] 70 00:04:32,446 --> 00:04:34,491 [Anthony] Let's take the Ink Spots. 71 00:04:34,535 --> 00:04:36,928 Now that's the early 40s, during World War II. 72 00:04:36,972 --> 00:04:40,932 The Ink Spots were singing pop music. "If I Wouldn't Care." 73 00:04:40,976 --> 00:04:45,720 [hums] And we would hear that stuff and go, "God, dad what was that?" 74 00:04:45,763 --> 00:04:50,377 They used to rap, the Ink Spots. ♪ Oh, honey child, baby♪ 75 00:04:50,420 --> 00:04:53,336 In the middle-- eighth of the song. 76 00:04:53,380 --> 00:04:56,992 ♪ Honey child More than words can say♪ 77 00:04:58,385 --> 00:05:00,996 [Anthony] Spiritual music gave birth to blues, 78 00:05:01,039 --> 00:05:03,781 blues gave birth to rhythm and blues, 79 00:05:03,825 --> 00:05:06,654 rhythm and blues gave birth to rock and roll, 80 00:05:06,697 --> 00:05:09,787 rock and roll gave birth to hip hop. 81 00:05:09,831 --> 00:05:12,660 No doo-wop. I don't know where that is. It doesn't fit in the category. 82 00:05:14,662 --> 00:05:20,537 It was the Ink Spots, it was the Ravens, but there was the Orioles. 83 00:05:20,581 --> 00:05:23,584 ["Does She Loves Me" by The Orioles playing] 84 00:05:23,627 --> 00:05:26,761 [Sammy] When they first heard "Does She Loves Me" 85 00:05:26,804 --> 00:05:30,504 that earthy sound from the Orioles with Sonny Til 86 00:05:30,547 --> 00:05:33,768 and by the time "Crying in the Chapel" came out, 87 00:05:33,811 --> 00:05:36,553 you could see that the music had changed 88 00:05:36,597 --> 00:05:39,034 and it gave it a more sophisticated sound. 89 00:05:39,077 --> 00:05:41,079 Oh, that was beautiful. 90 00:05:45,083 --> 00:05:48,565 They hung out on Pennsylvania Avenue which many of us believe 91 00:05:48,609 --> 00:05:51,612 was the birthplace of rhythm and blues vocal harmony 92 00:05:51,655 --> 00:05:55,529 and it was rhythm and blues vocal harmony, which would later develop into doo-wop. 93 00:05:55,572 --> 00:05:59,010 The Orioles were fantastic, but they weren't doo-woppers. 94 00:05:59,837 --> 00:06:02,492 The groups from then, don't like that term 95 00:06:02,536 --> 00:06:06,017 because that's not what they were. They were rhythm and blues singers. 96 00:06:06,061 --> 00:06:10,021 Groups started springing up all over the country trying to imitate the Orioles 97 00:06:10,065 --> 00:06:16,114 and I dare say, I don't know of a group that formed between 1948 and 1952 98 00:06:16,158 --> 00:06:18,856 that was not influenced strongly by the Orioles. 99 00:06:18,900 --> 00:06:23,774 It was just soul. It was the soul of Baltimore. 100 00:06:30,433 --> 00:06:34,524 The Orioles hooked up with a manager named Deborah Chessler. 101 00:06:34,568 --> 00:06:38,398 Deborah Chessler was a twenty-five-year-old songwriter from Baltimore. 102 00:06:38,441 --> 00:06:42,445 She was Jewish and she happened to stumble on the Orioles 103 00:06:42,489 --> 00:06:44,926 and decided she wanted to manage them and use them 104 00:06:44,969 --> 00:06:47,537 as an outlet for her songs, which she did. 105 00:06:50,105 --> 00:06:54,762 Deborah Chessler was the first white woman to manage a black group. 106 00:06:54,805 --> 00:07:01,464 She went to a pool in Baltimore and there was a sign, "No blacks, no Jews." 107 00:07:01,508 --> 00:07:04,728 She swam and she was coming out and she saw the sign 108 00:07:04,772 --> 00:07:07,035 and she went up to the girl at the thing and said, 109 00:07:07,078 --> 00:07:11,474 "I just want to tell you something. Uh, I'm Jewish, 110 00:07:11,518 --> 00:07:13,563 and I just swam in your pool." 111 00:07:13,607 --> 00:07:16,131 She understood discrimination. 112 00:07:16,174 --> 00:07:19,439 She identified, I think, with African Americans. 113 00:07:19,482 --> 00:07:22,790 She was happy that-- that her songs fit their styles. 114 00:07:31,146 --> 00:07:34,932 My wife, she was in love with Sonny Til in the Orioles, you know. 115 00:07:34,976 --> 00:07:38,458 I guess that's what made me sing the way I sang. 116 00:07:38,501 --> 00:07:41,156 They called him "The Voice." They called him Sonny-- Sonny Voice. 117 00:07:41,199 --> 00:07:43,941 His real name was-- was Earlington Tilghman. 118 00:07:43,985 --> 00:07:46,814 His voice was so smooth. 119 00:07:46,857 --> 00:07:50,861 Sonny would go get on stage, when he started singing, he had women falling out. 120 00:07:50,905 --> 00:07:52,994 [music playing] 121 00:07:57,868 --> 00:08:02,133 That song was recorded by every major artist. 122 00:08:02,177 --> 00:08:06,486 It was a new song not written by a major composer, 123 00:08:06,529 --> 00:08:10,620 but by an unknown girl and it was recorded by Ella Fitzgerald, 124 00:08:10,664 --> 00:08:15,495 Dinah Washington, Irma Thomas and Sonny Til which had the hit. 125 00:08:20,761 --> 00:08:25,026 What does a thirteen-year-old boy know about love? 126 00:08:25,679 --> 00:08:30,161 Well, Mr. Laine, I've been falling in love since I was only five. 127 00:08:31,162 --> 00:08:33,164 -Five? -[audience laughing] 128 00:08:33,208 --> 00:08:35,166 But I've been a fool about it since I was eleven. 129 00:08:35,210 --> 00:08:37,517 [audience laughing] 130 00:08:38,779 --> 00:08:40,824 [Mr. Laine] I think we've had enough of this little chitchat. 131 00:08:40,868 --> 00:08:42,870 -Are you ready to rock and roll? -[Frankie] That's right. 132 00:08:42,913 --> 00:08:45,786 I was watching television, of course, black and white 133 00:08:45,829 --> 00:08:49,006 and I hear this ruckus. I'm watching the Frankie Laine Show. 134 00:08:49,050 --> 00:08:52,053 And I see these five guys jump over this brick wall 135 00:08:52,096 --> 00:08:55,535 and they had on these white sweaters with tees on them 136 00:08:55,578 --> 00:08:58,233 and they start singing "Why Do Fools Fall in Love?" 137 00:08:58,276 --> 00:09:02,106 Well, when I tell you this turned my whole life around. 138 00:09:02,150 --> 00:09:06,197 ["Why do fools fall in love" by Frankie Lymon and The Teenager playing] 139 00:09:08,635 --> 00:09:13,553 I believe that Frankie Lymon and The Teenagers were put together 140 00:09:13,596 --> 00:09:17,861 to become Jackie Robinson of doo-wop. 141 00:09:17,905 --> 00:09:20,037 [music playing] 142 00:09:24,738 --> 00:09:27,262 There wasn't the internet then, you didn't have home recorders. 143 00:09:27,305 --> 00:09:29,830 So. in order to be in the record industry, 144 00:09:29,873 --> 00:09:32,267 if you have a group and wanted to be a singer, 145 00:09:32,310 --> 00:09:35,662 you had to go find an agent, or start knocking on doors 146 00:09:35,705 --> 00:09:38,099 and hopefully they would open their door and listen you sing. 147 00:09:39,274 --> 00:09:44,322 Richie Barrett moved into the neighborhood. We were so excited. 148 00:09:44,366 --> 00:09:47,238 He's a recording artist, he's a star, he has a group, 149 00:09:47,282 --> 00:09:50,198 he's getting ready to perform at the Apollo Theater. 150 00:09:50,241 --> 00:09:54,855 Richard Barrett became a big star as a singer singing with the Valentine's, 151 00:09:54,898 --> 00:09:58,336 but then he also became big on the other end of the microphone 152 00:09:58,380 --> 00:10:01,601 just managing groups, producing records, writing songs. 153 00:10:01,644 --> 00:10:05,866 Richard Barrett-- [puffs] the king of all this stuff. 154 00:10:05,909 --> 00:10:10,305 [Charlie H.] Richard Barrett was living in an apartment in Washington Heights 155 00:10:10,348 --> 00:10:13,177 and he kept hearing these kids singing beneath his window. 156 00:10:13,221 --> 00:10:16,093 And they were trying to get attention. They knew he was a big star. 157 00:10:16,137 --> 00:10:19,053 He sees us singing and he says, "You know what? 158 00:10:19,096 --> 00:10:22,230 I'm gonna take you guys downtown and get an audition." 159 00:10:22,273 --> 00:10:26,103 And we were thrilled. We had Richie Barrett of the Valentines 160 00:10:26,147 --> 00:10:28,932 who had a song out called "Lily Maebelle" 161 00:10:28,976 --> 00:10:33,197 who's going to take us downtown and make us stars. 162 00:10:33,241 --> 00:10:36,200 [music playing] 163 00:10:41,815 --> 00:10:45,949 The first week in September, Richard Barrett of the Valentines 164 00:10:45,993 --> 00:10:49,953 takes us down to George Goldner and there we do a live audition. 165 00:10:49,997 --> 00:10:52,216 [Jerry] Let me tell you about George Goldner. 166 00:10:52,260 --> 00:10:58,222 He was one of the unsung heroes of doo-wop street corner, trust me. 167 00:10:58,266 --> 00:11:02,662 So, we're auditioning in front of George-- "You know, you guys sound great. 168 00:11:02,705 --> 00:11:07,710 You guys sound-- Richie, Richie, do they-- do they do any original music?" 169 00:11:07,754 --> 00:11:10,147 I said, "Well, there's a song that we've been working on. 170 00:11:10,191 --> 00:11:15,892 It's called Why Do Fools Fall in Love." And on December 3rd 1955, 171 00:11:15,936 --> 00:11:20,810 we went into the studio and we recorded "Why Do Fools Fall in Love?" 172 00:11:20,854 --> 00:11:27,817 And we were about sixteen, and Frankie was thirteen. Thirteen-years-old. 173 00:11:27,861 --> 00:11:29,863 I don't know what I can say about this next act. 174 00:11:29,906 --> 00:11:32,692 What can you say? But sensational. 175 00:11:32,735 --> 00:11:36,826 All over the world, Frankie Lymon, a 13-year-old youngster 176 00:11:36,870 --> 00:11:41,178 with a great way with the song and The Teenagers. 177 00:11:41,222 --> 00:11:44,791 That was the beginning of a revolution that has never ended. 178 00:11:44,834 --> 00:11:46,836 That was a big bang we were looking for. 179 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,012 There had never been no teenage group before. 180 00:11:49,056 --> 00:11:52,102 I'm 16 years old. Frankie Lymon is younger than me. 181 00:11:52,146 --> 00:11:55,715 [music playing] 182 00:12:03,113 --> 00:12:06,029 And the people that related to The Teenagers were not just black, 183 00:12:06,073 --> 00:12:07,465 they were white. 184 00:12:08,118 --> 00:12:10,860 [Ron] The lyrics were something that we got, 185 00:12:10,904 --> 00:12:12,732 you know, "Why Do Fools Fall in Love" 186 00:12:12,775 --> 00:12:14,864 because when you're 14-years-old, 15-years-old 187 00:12:14,908 --> 00:12:17,780 you're falling in love constantly and hoping for the best. 188 00:12:17,824 --> 00:12:19,434 [Anthony] And they would get to the Brooklyn Paramount 189 00:12:20,391 --> 00:12:22,916 with Alan Freed, and I lived down the street. 190 00:12:23,525 --> 00:12:26,397 And me and a couple of other kids, we knew that place like the back of our hand. 191 00:12:26,441 --> 00:12:29,749 We didn't let a little thing about the theater and not having any money-- 192 00:12:29,792 --> 00:12:32,012 we'd sneak in the theatre. You know what I'm saying? 193 00:12:32,055 --> 00:12:35,102 And I remember seeing him, and he was singing with The Teenagers 194 00:12:35,145 --> 00:12:38,758 and Herman Santiago and Sherman Garnes and all the guys. 195 00:12:38,801 --> 00:12:41,804 I said, "Oh, shoot!" I just so-- was so overwhelmed 196 00:12:41,848 --> 00:12:44,764 not knowing that I was gonna meet him someday. 197 00:12:44,807 --> 00:12:46,940 Frankie could-- he was a natural. 198 00:12:46,983 --> 00:12:50,508 I always felt that way and he could sing too. 199 00:12:50,552 --> 00:12:52,946 You know, I'm talking about a kid about that tall. 200 00:12:52,989 --> 00:12:55,165 [music playing] 201 00:13:01,215 --> 00:13:05,219 I tried to sing his song, but I wasn't able to hit the notes that he could hit. 202 00:13:05,262 --> 00:13:07,438 He was fabulous. He was fabulous. 203 00:13:07,482 --> 00:13:10,833 He was a great singer and he had a great stage personality. 204 00:13:10,877 --> 00:13:12,487 He was a genius. 205 00:13:12,530 --> 00:13:15,403 Frankie Lymon, of course, I mean that's-- he was the best. 206 00:13:15,446 --> 00:13:17,274 I know Joey Fatone, that's his favorite too. 207 00:13:17,318 --> 00:13:18,885 Some star, he was a star, he was a star. 208 00:13:18,928 --> 00:13:21,452 It was written all over him, man. "I'm good." 209 00:13:21,496 --> 00:13:24,238 -He had his swag on early. -He had swag. 210 00:13:24,281 --> 00:13:25,282 [laughing] 211 00:13:25,326 --> 00:13:27,284 [music playing] 212 00:13:31,332 --> 00:13:34,509 The first time we met he said, "Oh, yeah. You're that cat, man. 213 00:13:34,552 --> 00:13:37,904 We call you little Anthony, man. You're that cat." I said, "Yes, sir." 214 00:13:37,947 --> 00:13:40,515 Then he tells me, "Hey, man you want to go to this here, restaurant?" 215 00:13:41,342 --> 00:13:45,346 And-- and he took me to Japanese restaurant that specializes in soul food. 216 00:13:46,173 --> 00:13:50,133 Figure that one out, man. So, Frankie took me there and it became-- 217 00:13:50,177 --> 00:13:52,309 we'd go there all the time. 218 00:13:52,353 --> 00:13:54,181 We figured together, man, we had the power. 219 00:13:54,224 --> 00:13:55,617 I'm Little Anthony, he's Frankie Lymon, 220 00:13:55,660 --> 00:13:58,446 literally women they would just come from everywhere. 221 00:14:01,362 --> 00:14:03,581 For the next eighteen months, 222 00:14:03,625 --> 00:14:06,976 Frankie Lymon and The Teenagers were on top of the world. 223 00:14:07,020 --> 00:14:10,980 Can you imagine in eighteen months, they had six top 10 records 224 00:14:11,024 --> 00:14:14,505 and they even made a tour of England where they played the London Palladium. 225 00:14:14,549 --> 00:14:18,640 [Jimmy] And remember we on the road with men. They were like sailors. 226 00:14:19,554 --> 00:14:22,513 You know, these guys in the clothes and The Coasters 227 00:14:22,557 --> 00:14:25,342 and The Drifters, they had women in every town. 228 00:14:25,386 --> 00:14:28,084 And we started copying them, you know. 229 00:14:28,128 --> 00:14:30,957 And we got rebuked out of the hotel because Park West Hotel 230 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,351 wasn't gonna have it, you know. [laughs] 231 00:14:34,395 --> 00:14:35,526 Crazy! 232 00:14:35,570 --> 00:14:38,355 During the tour, Frankie Lymon was-- 233 00:14:38,399 --> 00:14:42,185 was no longer being managed by Richard Barrett. 234 00:14:42,229 --> 00:14:45,275 They picked up some new managers and they said, 235 00:14:45,319 --> 00:14:49,366 "Why are we dealing with five kids when we only need to deal with one? 236 00:14:49,410 --> 00:14:52,152 We're gonna split Frankie Lymon away from the group." 237 00:14:52,195 --> 00:14:56,939 They split the group up and Frankie Lymon after that never had another hit record. 238 00:14:56,983 --> 00:14:59,376 And The Teenagers on their own with different leads 239 00:14:59,420 --> 00:15:01,509 never had another hit record after that. 240 00:15:03,076 --> 00:15:08,255 I watched him in happy times and I saw him when he had become self-destructive 241 00:15:09,038 --> 00:15:12,259 and there was nothing we can do. And-- and I mean, I remember, 242 00:15:13,260 --> 00:15:17,307 he was getting worse, and worse, and worse. He was taking heroin. 243 00:15:18,439 --> 00:15:22,138 And-- and then we started. So did the-- you know, 244 00:15:22,182 --> 00:15:24,532 that's something I couldn't-- I didn't want to deal with. 245 00:15:24,575 --> 00:15:26,621 I saw my brother get caught up in that thing and I said, 246 00:15:26,664 --> 00:15:29,276 "You know, I-- that's not-- that's not where I want to go." 247 00:15:29,319 --> 00:15:32,235 But I just-- I just wanted-- I didn't know how to help him. 248 00:15:32,279 --> 00:15:33,976 But he was still my friend. 249 00:15:34,020 --> 00:15:36,674 Eventually, I got to meet Frankie Lymon. 250 00:15:36,718 --> 00:15:39,242 I was working at the Apollo and it was sad 251 00:15:39,286 --> 00:15:43,507 that he would hang around backstage, 252 00:15:43,551 --> 00:15:48,077 you know, and he was on drugs, and he didn't look good at all. 253 00:15:48,991 --> 00:15:52,429 And he would, you know, try to borrow some money, or ask for money 254 00:15:52,473 --> 00:15:56,085 and stuff like that. I mean, he was-- I looked up to him 255 00:15:56,129 --> 00:15:58,653 and when I'm-- here I am appearing at the Apollo, 256 00:15:58,696 --> 00:16:01,264 and I see the guy that I look up to 257 00:16:02,178 --> 00:16:05,660 in this bad state, you know, so-- 258 00:16:06,487 --> 00:16:09,185 [Anthony] I get a call from my wife. She says, 259 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:11,535 "He's not with us anymore." 260 00:16:12,232 --> 00:16:13,276 I said, "What?" 261 00:16:14,147 --> 00:16:16,410 "He's not with us anymore," she said. 262 00:16:16,453 --> 00:16:20,066 I was told by street people that he took almost pure heroin 263 00:16:20,675 --> 00:16:22,372 and he shot it up. 264 00:16:23,112 --> 00:16:25,593 He was in the bathroom and he slumped over and died. 265 00:16:26,681 --> 00:16:28,988 It just-- it was ended. 266 00:16:29,771 --> 00:16:30,772 It was over. 267 00:16:37,518 --> 00:16:41,217 When Frankie Lymon and The Teenagers jumped over that wall, 268 00:16:41,261 --> 00:16:46,353 I think the next day teenage groups popped up from coast to coast. 269 00:16:46,396 --> 00:16:49,225 All of a sudden, we realized that as a teenager, 270 00:16:49,269 --> 00:16:51,619 we can actually, you know, maybe make a record. 271 00:16:51,662 --> 00:16:53,664 Frankie Lymon was about the same age I was, 272 00:16:53,708 --> 00:16:55,579 so I said, "Well, if he can do it, I can do it." 273 00:16:55,623 --> 00:16:59,714 They caused the epidemic. There were the groups in every schoolyard. 274 00:16:59,757 --> 00:17:02,456 They were all over and no matter where you went 275 00:17:02,499 --> 00:17:05,154 in 1956, during the summer, 276 00:17:05,198 --> 00:17:08,114 no matter what neighborhood, what project, 277 00:17:08,157 --> 00:17:10,507 you heard harmony every place you went. 278 00:17:12,205 --> 00:17:14,555 [music playing] 279 00:17:22,302 --> 00:17:24,565 [Diz] We used to sing on street corners. 280 00:17:24,608 --> 00:17:28,134 If you were a singer, then you know what I'm talking about. 281 00:17:28,177 --> 00:17:30,440 Most the time we was-- we'd get together and sing. 282 00:17:30,484 --> 00:17:33,356 Come on, I'll meet you at the corner, and I see you walking up, 283 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,229 they gotta me, all good stop and start singing on the corner together. 284 00:17:37,665 --> 00:17:40,102 [Charlie T.] You know, a long time before I got 285 00:17:40,146 --> 00:17:42,713 with the Drifters I was with The Crowns-- The Five Crowns, 286 00:17:42,757 --> 00:17:46,195 and we used to sing on the street corner of 8th Avenue. 287 00:17:46,239 --> 00:17:48,676 It used to be the Cadillacs on one corner, 288 00:17:48,719 --> 00:17:53,202 it used to be The Five Crowns on one corner, The Harptones on another corner. 289 00:17:53,246 --> 00:17:56,249 You know, you know you light the fire in the garbage can 290 00:17:56,292 --> 00:18:00,470 and you take a little nip of something and then you hit a little doo-wop song. 291 00:18:00,514 --> 00:18:02,820 [music playing] 292 00:18:11,133 --> 00:18:16,399 And this is where this whole thing called doo-wop developed in the inner city 293 00:18:16,443 --> 00:18:20,229 and that to me is what doo-wop really is. It's a homegrown music. 294 00:18:20,273 --> 00:18:22,797 There was a lot of poverty, you know, there was no one who was rich, 295 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:24,494 everybody was struggling. 296 00:18:24,538 --> 00:18:26,409 Everybody was trying to get out 297 00:18:26,453 --> 00:18:29,586 and you'd rely on whatever skill, 298 00:18:29,630 --> 00:18:32,546 talent, ability you had to do that. 299 00:18:32,589 --> 00:18:36,550 That was a way of releasing tension and to form brotherhood. 300 00:18:36,593 --> 00:18:40,249 Brooklyn was not a high-end community. 301 00:18:40,293 --> 00:18:43,774 There really wasn't any money for-- for instruments. 302 00:18:43,818 --> 00:18:46,777 Nobody could afford to buy instruments, so you had to-- 303 00:18:46,821 --> 00:18:50,564 you wanted to make some money, you had to imitate the instruments. 304 00:18:50,607 --> 00:18:53,741 Well not only could we not afford them, we couldn't play them. 305 00:18:54,394 --> 00:18:56,396 We didn't know how to play them. 306 00:18:56,439 --> 00:19:00,530 Started sundown, as soon as the streetlights came on, 307 00:19:00,574 --> 00:19:04,143 uh, you would find various groups taking positions. 308 00:19:04,186 --> 00:19:07,537 It seems like there was a group under every streetlight. 309 00:19:07,581 --> 00:19:10,453 ["My true story" by The Jive Five playing] 310 00:19:14,849 --> 00:19:18,809 It was just street-corner singing, 311 00:19:18,853 --> 00:19:22,813 getting that harmony to ring, usually standing under the streetlight. 312 00:19:22,857 --> 00:19:26,774 It would be like a concert and it was just an amazing, 313 00:19:26,817 --> 00:19:31,779 amazing evening until of course, about nine o'clock, everything shut down about 9:00. 314 00:19:31,822 --> 00:19:36,175 We would have a lot of parents saying, "Stop that noise and get out of my back door." 315 00:19:36,218 --> 00:19:37,567 And that was the good days. 316 00:19:37,611 --> 00:19:41,223 [music playing] 317 00:19:41,267 --> 00:19:43,660 [Barbara] Well, the schoolyards they would assemble. 318 00:19:43,704 --> 00:19:47,882 Various groups would show up, and they'd find a spot. 319 00:19:47,925 --> 00:19:50,667 Yeah everybody's going in like a prizefighter. You're going in, 320 00:19:50,711 --> 00:19:53,801 one group is standing in the corner and standing in another corner, 321 00:19:53,844 --> 00:19:57,544 in another corner, you know. And it's-- when it's your turn-- when it's your turn to sing, 322 00:19:57,587 --> 00:19:59,676 you go up and you do the best song. 323 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,592 About what we gonna do? We gonna burn them and all that kind of stuff 324 00:20:02,636 --> 00:20:06,466 that's-- that was the term back then. We gonna burn. We gonna burn them tonight. 325 00:20:06,509 --> 00:20:09,251 -That's right. That's right. -[laughing] 326 00:20:09,295 --> 00:20:13,255 And it was really trial and error. We were imitating all the other groups. 327 00:20:13,299 --> 00:20:15,475 So basically, we were doing their songs, 328 00:20:15,518 --> 00:20:17,868 but then we were here, "Well, wait a minute. 329 00:20:18,739 --> 00:20:22,351 If we just singing it in the streets, it didn't sound the same 330 00:20:22,395 --> 00:20:24,266 as it was-- as they sound on the records." 331 00:20:24,310 --> 00:20:26,790 Well, somehow, we stumbled up in the hallways 332 00:20:26,834 --> 00:20:29,228 of Brooklyn and in Fort Greene projects 333 00:20:29,271 --> 00:20:32,318 and other projects where other groups came from and it had echo. 334 00:20:32,361 --> 00:20:35,843 There was natural echo. We said, "Oh! That's what we're hearing 335 00:20:35,886 --> 00:20:37,932 on the record. We could do this in the hallway." 336 00:20:37,975 --> 00:20:39,977 You must be in 337 00:20:41,327 --> 00:20:42,545 a stairwell 338 00:20:43,372 --> 00:20:46,332 or a bathroom for harmony. I mean, it was like-- 339 00:20:46,375 --> 00:20:48,943 it was amazing to scramble around the fire, 340 00:20:48,986 --> 00:20:52,468 "Where are we gonna sing today? Oh, shucks! They're in the bathroom." 341 00:20:52,512 --> 00:20:54,122 [Anthony] Then we found out 342 00:20:54,165 --> 00:20:55,819 that when we're down in the subway, it was even better 343 00:20:56,690 --> 00:20:59,388 and that's how we learned. We learned by trial and error. 344 00:20:59,432 --> 00:21:02,913 This is how we talked. It wasn't you're the tenor, you're the baritone, 345 00:21:02,957 --> 00:21:04,567 you're the second tenor-- no, nobody-- 346 00:21:04,611 --> 00:21:06,656 it's like, "You do the high part, 347 00:21:06,700 --> 00:21:08,484 man and you-- you do the low part." 348 00:21:10,312 --> 00:21:13,315 When you're singing those-- those sweet love songs like that on-- 349 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,926 on the street corners where there were girls always around. 350 00:21:15,970 --> 00:21:19,582 -All right. -And that was-- that was it. 351 00:21:19,626 --> 00:21:22,498 -That's what you all gonna do? -I would put my baseball glove down, my bat down-- 352 00:21:22,542 --> 00:21:24,979 -this is what I wanted to do. -And everything, right? 353 00:21:25,022 --> 00:21:26,546 Yes, yes indeed. 354 00:21:26,589 --> 00:21:29,723 ["In the still of the night" by The Five Satins playing] 355 00:21:31,725 --> 00:21:36,425 But the main thing it was all the girls used to come to the best group 356 00:21:36,469 --> 00:21:40,603 and we were the best group. Over The Harptones and The Moonglows and all. 357 00:21:40,647 --> 00:21:44,390 We were the best group. They used to come and crowd and load up our corner, 358 00:21:44,433 --> 00:21:46,653 you know, and that was them-- that's the most marvelous-- 359 00:21:46,696 --> 00:21:48,872 excuse me wife, this is my younger days. 360 00:21:48,916 --> 00:21:50,613 We wanted attention, you know, 361 00:21:50,657 --> 00:21:52,528 and that was the easiest way to get attention. 362 00:21:52,572 --> 00:21:54,051 Well, it was because of the girls. 363 00:21:55,357 --> 00:21:58,665 Hell, all the fellas wanted the girls, so. 364 00:21:58,708 --> 00:22:01,407 That was the coolest thing in the world that you didn't need a band. 365 00:22:02,103 --> 00:22:05,672 You didn't need anything. That you and your friends could go on a street corner 366 00:22:05,715 --> 00:22:09,850 and-- and sing-- and-- and girls would like that. 367 00:22:10,546 --> 00:22:13,462 That's a big deal. That's a really big deal. 368 00:22:13,506 --> 00:22:15,725 [music playing] 369 00:22:24,517 --> 00:22:27,041 So that was the beginning that evolution. It went from the street corner, 370 00:22:27,824 --> 00:22:31,393 to the subways, in the hallways of Brooklyn. 371 00:22:31,437 --> 00:22:34,614 And you remember, as we keep doing this, we're getting better and better 372 00:22:34,657 --> 00:22:36,355 and better at our craft. 373 00:22:36,398 --> 00:22:38,835 It wasn't thought that we would eventually 374 00:22:38,879 --> 00:22:41,490 go on to be professional. 375 00:22:41,534 --> 00:22:44,624 -It was just the fact that we were enjoying ourselves. -Yeah. 376 00:22:44,667 --> 00:22:46,756 As long as they had a streetlight, 377 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,498 or a bunch of guys together staying on the corner, 378 00:22:49,542 --> 00:22:54,895 on the stoop, it didn't matter. For me, it was the inner-city urban sound. 379 00:22:55,635 --> 00:22:59,508 For me, it was camaraderie, it was achievement, 380 00:22:59,552 --> 00:23:02,816 it was a coming together of a bunch of guys 381 00:23:03,556 --> 00:23:06,036 singing their hearts out, making harmony together. 382 00:23:13,957 --> 00:23:15,829 [music playing] 383 00:23:22,662 --> 00:23:25,839 ["Maybe" by The Chantels playing] 384 00:23:28,668 --> 00:23:34,021 Before the 50s, no one was writing songs for kids. 385 00:23:34,064 --> 00:23:35,631 They didn't have money, 386 00:23:37,416 --> 00:23:39,592 but in the 50s, Eisenhower was President and things were good, 387 00:23:39,635 --> 00:23:44,901 and the kids literally had a buck to spend on a record. 388 00:23:44,945 --> 00:23:49,166 In the late 50s, young people started writing songs for kids. 389 00:23:49,210 --> 00:23:52,082 It was kids writing songs for kids now. 390 00:23:56,957 --> 00:23:59,873 [Ron] Growing up in New York area was luckiest thing in the world 391 00:23:59,916 --> 00:24:02,745 because you could take a ferryboat to Manhattan 392 00:24:02,789 --> 00:24:05,052 from Staten Island and go up to the Brill Building, 393 00:24:05,095 --> 00:24:08,447 which was the mecca of all music at the time. 394 00:24:08,490 --> 00:24:11,667 The Brill Building. Oh, man! How sweet! 395 00:24:11,711 --> 00:24:13,930 The building wasn't a concept, there was a building 396 00:24:13,974 --> 00:24:17,151 and it was just-- it was no more than that. 397 00:24:17,194 --> 00:24:20,459 That's where they were making a star, right in the Brill Building. 398 00:24:20,502 --> 00:24:24,811 It really wasn't magical then, it's magical now. 399 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,207 [Sammy] This is the building where all the record companies, 400 00:24:30,251 --> 00:24:34,516 Scepter Records and Gone Records and a host of others. 401 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,563 It was like fourteen, fifteen floors of music publishers, 402 00:24:37,606 --> 00:24:41,218 managers, record companies, and even a recording studio. 403 00:24:41,262 --> 00:24:43,699 So, everything was linked to this-- this one area. 404 00:24:43,743 --> 00:24:47,616 [Jeff] It was just a cool place with brass front doors, 405 00:24:47,660 --> 00:24:50,489 and a long hall leading to the elevators, 406 00:24:50,532 --> 00:24:53,970 black and white marble floors, and a restaurant on either side 407 00:24:54,014 --> 00:24:58,235 you could access from the street, or from the interior hallway. 408 00:24:58,279 --> 00:25:00,803 The whole building was filled with music. 409 00:25:00,847 --> 00:25:02,849 There were people in the elevators singing. 410 00:25:02,892 --> 00:25:06,026 You know, they were actually elevator operators who would tell you-- 411 00:25:06,679 --> 00:25:09,029 that's when they didn't have automatic elevators, 412 00:25:09,072 --> 00:25:12,206 they would tell you which publishing companies are looking for people. 413 00:25:15,688 --> 00:25:18,212 We were rabid Heartbeat fans, 414 00:25:18,255 --> 00:25:20,823 so we followed the address on that label. 415 00:25:20,867 --> 00:25:22,564 We started knocking on the doors, on every door 416 00:25:22,608 --> 00:25:24,566 in that building until somebody said okay. 417 00:25:24,610 --> 00:25:28,222 I once met Paul Simon and he was just starting out and he said to me, 418 00:25:29,005 --> 00:25:30,920 "You don't have to start on the first floor, second floor." 419 00:25:30,964 --> 00:25:33,793 He said, "Go to the top and walk down each flight 420 00:25:33,836 --> 00:25:36,883 and stop at the publisher's offices and the manager's office 421 00:25:36,926 --> 00:25:39,189 because it's easier coming down than going up." 422 00:25:39,233 --> 00:25:44,020 One of the places we stopped at was a record label called Whole Records 423 00:25:44,064 --> 00:25:46,849 and the woman and her husband that owned the label said, 424 00:25:46,893 --> 00:25:50,026 "You don't have to go no further than this. We're very interested." 425 00:25:50,070 --> 00:25:52,028 They gave us a contract to take home to our parents 426 00:25:52,072 --> 00:25:53,726 because we were all minors at the time 427 00:25:54,248 --> 00:25:56,032 and that's what we did. 428 00:25:56,076 --> 00:25:58,121 We signed, we were in the studio, 429 00:25:58,165 --> 00:25:59,558 and we recorded "Little Star." 430 00:26:00,254 --> 00:26:03,170 ["Little Star" by The Elegants playing] 431 00:26:07,827 --> 00:26:12,614 We were all seventeen-years-old when we had our first hit record "Son in Law." 432 00:26:13,093 --> 00:26:16,313 When I was sixteen-years-old, I recorded my first hit record, 433 00:26:16,357 --> 00:26:19,969 a group called The Chips, the record was called "Rubber Biscuit." 434 00:26:20,013 --> 00:26:23,277 I think we started when I was about fourteen-fifteen years old. 435 00:26:23,930 --> 00:26:28,195 I was thirteen coming up, thirteen, twelve, you know. 436 00:26:29,239 --> 00:26:32,068 I was nineteen-years-old when we recorded, "I only have eyes for you." 437 00:26:33,940 --> 00:26:37,683 When I wrote Little Star and recorded it, I was sixteen-years-old. 438 00:26:39,206 --> 00:26:42,252 I was coming out of summer school for the last time I thought 439 00:26:42,949 --> 00:26:47,083 and I saw Jimmy Moschello who was still singing with me today, 440 00:26:47,127 --> 00:26:50,783 one of the original members, and I'm coming down the walkway, and he's beeping the horn 441 00:26:50,826 --> 00:26:53,742 and he's yelling, "It's number one. It's reached number one." 442 00:26:53,786 --> 00:26:56,876 And we knocked out Perry Como and I didn't want to tell my grandmother that. 443 00:26:56,919 --> 00:27:00,749 She would kill me. I took my books and I saw a big garbage pail 444 00:27:00,793 --> 00:27:04,187 and I threw my books in the garbage pail and I jumped into his car 445 00:27:04,231 --> 00:27:07,756 and we took off and I said, "That's it. I'm-- I'm a singer now. 446 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,279 I don't-- I don't need a diploma." 447 00:27:10,716 --> 00:27:13,414 [music playing] 448 00:27:18,811 --> 00:27:23,772 It's all in the writing baby. It's all in the writing. The real stars are the songwriters. 449 00:27:23,816 --> 00:27:28,211 It really was an occupation that we would get up and-- and go in and write. 450 00:27:28,864 --> 00:27:32,172 And we would get to work every day. Some guys would get there ten in the morning. 451 00:27:32,215 --> 00:27:36,742 We had four or five, six, maybe eight piano rooms and you'd close the door 452 00:27:36,785 --> 00:27:38,700 and then you'd start to write your song. 453 00:27:38,744 --> 00:27:41,137 ["Yakety Yak" by The Coasters playing] 454 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,144 See, we were with a couple of guys named Leiber and Stoller. 455 00:27:48,188 --> 00:27:50,712 These are white Jewish guys that went to church 456 00:27:50,756 --> 00:27:55,717 and they loved the black sound in the churches. 457 00:27:55,761 --> 00:27:58,807 Leiber and Stoller were the man. 458 00:27:58,851 --> 00:28:01,984 They were the ones, Jerry and Mike. They was the man. 459 00:28:02,028 --> 00:28:06,075 We were the first white act they ever touched other than Elvis 460 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,732 and they wrote for him and produced some of the stuff, 461 00:28:10,776 --> 00:28:14,388 but they produced all of The Drifters and The Coasters 462 00:28:14,431 --> 00:28:17,391 and all this great music that had complicated arrangements. 463 00:28:17,434 --> 00:28:19,959 They were too me-- they were the best. 464 00:28:20,002 --> 00:28:24,833 They could just out of clear blue sky-- just give you some words. 465 00:28:24,877 --> 00:28:28,358 They were the hippest guys out there on the streets. 466 00:28:28,402 --> 00:28:31,318 Their lyrics were always cool-- 467 00:28:31,361 --> 00:28:32,711 -[Marty] Right on. -Right on. 468 00:28:32,754 --> 00:28:36,149 Jerry said, "Billy, you talk too much, man." 469 00:28:36,192 --> 00:28:38,760 And Billy said, "No, I don't talk too much." "Yes, you do it." 470 00:28:38,804 --> 00:28:44,374 Said, "Yeah you just yak, yak, yak all the time." 471 00:28:44,418 --> 00:28:48,422 And when we came back the next day, Jerry had put some words to "Yakety Yak. 472 00:28:49,292 --> 00:28:52,992 They had a million hits and they were with the best people. 473 00:28:53,035 --> 00:28:57,387 Oh, Yakety Yak, Charlie Brown, Along came Jones, 474 00:28:57,431 --> 00:29:01,261 Down in Mexico, One kiss led to another, Searchin', 475 00:29:01,304 --> 00:29:02,871 on and on. 476 00:29:04,220 --> 00:29:08,181 It was happening. We were inventing. I called it Kitty Hawk, 477 00:29:09,008 --> 00:29:11,793 you know, that's where the Wright Brothers threw their-- 478 00:29:11,837 --> 00:29:15,405 pushed their first plane off the hill and went, "Hey, it flies," you know. 479 00:29:15,449 --> 00:29:16,929 And that's what we were doing. 480 00:29:16,972 --> 00:29:18,017 People have said, 481 00:29:19,235 --> 00:29:21,455 "You made history. Did you know it?" 482 00:29:21,498 --> 00:29:24,240 We didn't know we were making history. We were making records. 483 00:29:30,943 --> 00:29:33,772 [music playing] 484 00:29:41,475 --> 00:29:45,348 See back then, especially in Philadelphia and New York City too, 485 00:29:46,393 --> 00:29:49,918 most radio stations were playing the popular music of the day; 486 00:29:50,484 --> 00:29:53,792 Rosemary Clooney, The Four Lads, but all the-- 487 00:29:53,835 --> 00:29:57,230 at the other end of the dial, you had the little black stations. 488 00:29:59,449 --> 00:30:02,496 [Jocko] You ready for the big ride from outer space, huh? 489 00:30:02,539 --> 00:30:06,892 Passengers fasten your seat belts. Three, two, one, take it off. 490 00:30:06,935 --> 00:30:09,155 [music playing] 491 00:30:14,377 --> 00:30:18,338 I was listening to a disc jockey from North New Jersey 492 00:30:18,381 --> 00:30:22,864 where you could hardly hear it on the radio, there was such static, 493 00:30:22,908 --> 00:30:25,911 but you could hear the doo-wop sound coming through. 494 00:30:25,954 --> 00:30:28,522 ["Stay" by Maurice William And The Zodiacs playing] 495 00:30:32,439 --> 00:30:34,571 I was fooling around with the dial and I hit black radio 496 00:30:34,615 --> 00:30:37,313 down the right end of the dial and I found it much more interesting. 497 00:30:37,357 --> 00:30:39,576 They played records that I never heard, 498 00:30:39,620 --> 00:30:41,448 that never got over to the white stations. 499 00:30:41,491 --> 00:30:42,971 It was much more interesting. 500 00:30:43,015 --> 00:30:45,147 There was a disk jockey called Jocko 501 00:30:45,974 --> 00:30:49,978 who had a rap-- who had a persona. 502 00:30:50,022 --> 00:30:52,894 He will come out the Apollo Theater in a rocket ship 503 00:30:52,938 --> 00:30:57,290 and in a spaceman's suit and he was the persona. 504 00:30:58,073 --> 00:31:01,511 [Jocko] --through Jocko and the engineer the big rocket ship sure thing. 505 00:31:01,555 --> 00:31:03,383 Greeting salutations. 506 00:31:03,992 --> 00:31:07,169 Jocko knew the ghetto, the street corner, 507 00:31:07,213 --> 00:31:09,171 the music in the black neighborhoods 508 00:31:09,215 --> 00:31:12,348 and was playing music because he had an ear. 509 00:31:12,392 --> 00:31:16,352 [music playing] 510 00:31:16,396 --> 00:31:20,356 So, all the black cats Lord Fauntleroy, 511 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:25,057 Sir John Bandy, all the black cats had a persona. 512 00:31:25,579 --> 00:31:28,321 So, what happened when rock and roll happened, 513 00:31:28,364 --> 00:31:30,976 the white cats, all had to get a handle. 514 00:31:31,019 --> 00:31:33,195 I became the Geator. 515 00:31:33,239 --> 00:31:35,241 Jocko, if he would have been white, 516 00:31:35,284 --> 00:31:37,547 he would have been bigger than Alan Freed. 517 00:31:37,591 --> 00:31:41,638 -[radio presenter] The Moondog Show. -Hi, everybody. Hi y'all. 518 00:31:41,682 --> 00:31:43,989 This is yours truly, Alan Freed welcoming you 519 00:31:44,032 --> 00:31:45,947 to the Big Beat once again on radio. 520 00:31:46,643 --> 00:31:49,211 Alan Freed, my main man. 521 00:31:49,255 --> 00:31:52,649 Alan Freed was the king of the DJs. 522 00:31:52,693 --> 00:31:58,307 Anyone who was anyone had to go through my main man. 523 00:31:58,351 --> 00:32:02,181 [Fred] Alan Freed was a disc jockey from Cleveland, 524 00:32:02,224 --> 00:32:06,489 who was one of the first white deejays to play black music. 525 00:32:06,533 --> 00:32:09,623 ["That's what you're doing to me" by The Dominoes playing] 526 00:32:11,625 --> 00:32:13,453 People didn't like that too much really. 527 00:32:13,496 --> 00:32:15,411 He was not initially into this. 528 00:32:15,455 --> 00:32:20,068 He knew enough to visit record stores and see what kids were buying 529 00:32:20,112 --> 00:32:23,593 and when he saw white and black kids buying black music 530 00:32:23,637 --> 00:32:26,422 like this he said, "Well, maybe I can start 531 00:32:26,466 --> 00:32:27,946 playing some of this on the radio." 532 00:32:27,989 --> 00:32:31,775 He realized that this was a new form of music. 533 00:32:35,562 --> 00:32:38,260 [Charlie H.] He moved to New York basically on the fame 534 00:32:38,304 --> 00:32:41,089 that he had developed in-- in Cleveland 535 00:32:41,133 --> 00:32:44,223 and of course now, he had an even bigger audience 536 00:32:44,266 --> 00:32:46,007 and he could push hard. 537 00:32:46,051 --> 00:32:50,185 But what he really did was mix R&B music with-- with the white pop 538 00:32:50,229 --> 00:32:52,013 that was out there and play it all. 539 00:32:52,057 --> 00:32:54,711 So, you would hear Elvis Presley and then you'd hear The Platters, 540 00:32:54,755 --> 00:32:57,410 then you would hear The Moonglows, then you would hear The Elegants. 541 00:32:57,453 --> 00:33:00,500 You would hear different groups on your radio and that opened it up. 542 00:33:00,543 --> 00:33:02,981 They just couldn't hardly separate it. 543 00:33:03,024 --> 00:33:06,636 It was very difficult to separate it after Alan Freed started playing it. 544 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,597 They had hit the major markets, you know, like Jocko was on a limited station. 545 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,252 Tommy Smalls, Dr. Jive was on a limited station. 546 00:33:13,295 --> 00:33:16,081 You couldn't get him, let's say, in the five boroughs 547 00:33:16,124 --> 00:33:18,518 just like you could get Alan Freed. 548 00:33:18,561 --> 00:33:22,696 [Diz] You ever heard of a Clyde McPhatter? Alan Freed, you know who Alan Freed was. 549 00:33:23,523 --> 00:33:27,527 They had a song that said "That's what you're doing to me." 550 00:33:27,570 --> 00:33:29,616 That they were playing over the air 551 00:33:30,573 --> 00:33:33,446 and here's where this expression came from. 552 00:33:34,186 --> 00:33:37,058 "I want to rock. I want to roll. 553 00:33:37,102 --> 00:33:40,018 I want to feel it deep down in my soul. 554 00:33:40,061 --> 00:33:43,064 Oh, can't you see. That's what you're doing to me." 555 00:33:44,587 --> 00:33:46,633 [music playing] 556 00:33:52,508 --> 00:33:56,686 Alan Freed would play that every day on the air 557 00:33:56,730 --> 00:33:59,254 and when Alan would come back on the air 558 00:33:59,298 --> 00:34:02,649 and say, "Everybody, it's time to rock n roll" 559 00:34:02,692 --> 00:34:04,085 because he got it from the record. 560 00:34:05,434 --> 00:34:06,740 So, he was playing this music 561 00:34:08,220 --> 00:34:11,049 and at-- at an alarming rate and it was growing so fast 562 00:34:11,092 --> 00:34:13,529 and so many people were digging it, kids. 563 00:34:13,573 --> 00:34:15,792 It just grew like wildfire. 564 00:34:15,836 --> 00:34:20,362 All of a sudden black music became the number one music in the world. 565 00:34:20,406 --> 00:34:24,584 Once Alan Freed pulled the covers off of that music 566 00:34:24,627 --> 00:34:30,198 and had the audacity to make movies integrated with this music 567 00:34:30,242 --> 00:34:33,114 that was shown from coast to coast, 568 00:34:33,158 --> 00:34:36,204 I think that's one of the reasons why they got rid of him 569 00:34:36,248 --> 00:34:37,553 and really tried to hurt him. 570 00:34:38,598 --> 00:34:41,470 They tried to blackball him. 571 00:34:41,514 --> 00:34:44,691 They tried to threaten him that he couldn't do this. 572 00:34:44,734 --> 00:34:47,259 He couldn't do that. And he just went against the odds. 573 00:34:47,302 --> 00:34:51,437 To me, he was the king of rock and roll. I'm sorry he's gone. 574 00:34:52,307 --> 00:34:55,441 [Jerry] This is the Geator, the big boss with the big cat sauce, the man with the planet. 575 00:34:55,484 --> 00:34:59,662 Let's go back to the year 1959. Dion and the Belmonts, ladies and gentlemen, 576 00:34:59,706 --> 00:35:04,624 out of the Bronx. The name of the song is called "I Wonder Why?" My man. 577 00:35:06,278 --> 00:35:09,107 ["I wonder why" by Dion and the Belmonts playing] 578 00:35:12,197 --> 00:35:14,547 The black groups really were the R&B soul singers. 579 00:35:14,590 --> 00:35:17,376 They were really the earthy singers, but there were other groups 580 00:35:17,419 --> 00:35:21,162 and there were white groups. They could not sing the way we did. 581 00:35:21,206 --> 00:35:24,731 They couldn't get that soul. So, they created their own style. 582 00:35:30,867 --> 00:35:33,740 We often look at the late 50s 583 00:35:33,783 --> 00:35:37,265 as a time when a lot of white doo-wop groups started singing 584 00:35:37,309 --> 00:35:42,270 and, in the beginning, of course, they were singing black music. 585 00:35:42,314 --> 00:35:46,622 We were all kids and they-- they heard the same thing that we heard. 586 00:35:46,666 --> 00:35:49,538 Now, I would-- I wouldn't even buy a record that was recorded 587 00:35:49,582 --> 00:35:52,367 by a white artist at that time. 588 00:35:52,411 --> 00:35:54,761 You know I was like, you know, it was like going against 589 00:35:54,804 --> 00:35:57,198 everything that I-- that I believed in musically. 590 00:35:57,242 --> 00:36:00,332 My first exposure to doo-wop music came from my cellar 591 00:36:00,375 --> 00:36:04,249 because there was a local group, The Elegants and they would rehearse in my cellar. 592 00:36:04,292 --> 00:36:07,600 So, I would hear these great harmonies coming out of the cellar 593 00:36:07,643 --> 00:36:09,819 and my dad would say, "But they're never gonna make it. 594 00:36:09,863 --> 00:36:12,822 How are they gonna get a record made?" And about three months later, 595 00:36:12,866 --> 00:36:16,696 they had the number one record in the country and they sold a million records. 596 00:36:16,739 --> 00:36:21,222 It has been stated that the first two groups to create and open the door 597 00:36:21,266 --> 00:36:24,443 for this whole Italian-American doo-wop movement 598 00:36:24,486 --> 00:36:27,489 was ourselves The Elegants and Dion and the Belmonts. 599 00:36:29,491 --> 00:36:31,841 [music playing] 600 00:36:36,368 --> 00:36:41,764 The Italian-American groups were basing their singing on their own culture. 601 00:36:41,808 --> 00:36:46,856 They grew up listening to Frankie Laine and Tony Bennett and Frank Sinatra. 602 00:36:46,900 --> 00:36:50,643 And there's a little bit of that in their style of singing. 603 00:36:50,686 --> 00:36:57,302 Some of it is spiritual, some guys sang bluesy, but it was all in a city feeling. 604 00:36:57,867 --> 00:37:01,349 It had no color cause Dion and the Belmonts was doo-wop group, 605 00:37:01,393 --> 00:37:03,873 Frankie Valli the Four Seasons was a doo-wop group. 606 00:37:03,917 --> 00:37:06,702 White groups and black groups do sound slightly different 607 00:37:06,746 --> 00:37:10,489 even when doing the same song in similar style. 608 00:37:10,532 --> 00:37:14,232 This was pretty much brought on by the fact that in many cities 609 00:37:14,275 --> 00:37:15,972 the Italian-American neighborhoods 610 00:37:16,016 --> 00:37:18,714 were right next to the African-American neighborhoods 611 00:37:18,758 --> 00:37:21,413 and there was some interaction between groups. 612 00:37:21,935 --> 00:37:24,633 All the groups, all the white groups and the black groups 613 00:37:24,677 --> 00:37:26,331 there was no difference after a while. 614 00:37:26,374 --> 00:37:28,768 ["The angels listended in" by The Crests playing] 615 00:37:32,641 --> 00:37:35,818 This music is for whoever wants to do it. 616 00:37:35,862 --> 00:37:39,561 It's basically a black form of music, 617 00:37:39,605 --> 00:37:44,566 but the fact that we had two Puerto Ricans in our group 618 00:37:44,610 --> 00:37:48,744 lets the world know that Puerto Ricans love the music as well. 619 00:37:48,788 --> 00:37:52,574 You know, I like to think that music is the great uniter. 620 00:37:52,618 --> 00:37:56,361 It was especially noticeable in doo-wop music, 621 00:37:56,404 --> 00:37:59,364 I think, because here were cases where all of a sudden 622 00:37:59,407 --> 00:38:03,324 you started having racially integrated groups singing. 623 00:38:03,368 --> 00:38:07,415 There were several of them that were very big The Romancers out on the west coast, 624 00:38:07,459 --> 00:38:11,419 The Del Vikings were another. Johnny Maestro in The Crests. 625 00:38:11,463 --> 00:38:14,770 I came from a place called South Beach in Staten Island New York. 626 00:38:14,814 --> 00:38:18,470 Johnny Maestro's family lived not too far from us 627 00:38:18,513 --> 00:38:21,299 and he also wanted to doo-wop, to sing with his own group 628 00:38:21,342 --> 00:38:23,388 at that time when he had The Crests. 629 00:38:23,431 --> 00:38:25,607 Johnny Maestro and The Crests. The first integrated group. 630 00:38:25,651 --> 00:38:28,480 Spanish, black, white. 631 00:38:28,523 --> 00:38:31,309 Johnny Maestro greatest voice of them all. 632 00:38:31,352 --> 00:38:33,920 [music playing] 633 00:38:38,751 --> 00:38:44,322 It was black and white kids singing together, emulating that harmony. 634 00:38:49,936 --> 00:38:55,333 Music has no color. This is about love. It's for the love of the music. 635 00:39:00,860 --> 00:39:03,384 [music playing] 636 00:39:07,780 --> 00:39:10,348 Before I actually played the Apollo, 637 00:39:10,391 --> 00:39:13,481 I often wondered what they did when the show was over, 638 00:39:13,525 --> 00:39:15,831 they went to another-- and-- and-- and I would hear them talk about-- 639 00:39:15,875 --> 00:39:19,400 "Well, we're going on a big tour. We're gonna go to the Howard Theatre. 640 00:39:19,444 --> 00:39:21,359 We're gonna play this out there tomorrow." Oh, man, 641 00:39:21,402 --> 00:39:23,535 that's like running away and going to the circus. 642 00:39:24,405 --> 00:39:26,146 ["A thousand miles away" by The Heartbeats playing] 643 00:39:29,584 --> 00:39:34,372 Touring and so forth, shows this was all new to us, to all of us. 644 00:39:34,415 --> 00:39:36,678 We went to almost every state with Dick Clark. 645 00:39:36,722 --> 00:39:39,551 We went from Canada to Texas, New York to California. 646 00:39:39,594 --> 00:39:45,557 We did ninety one-nighters in ninety days and we did three of them in one year. 647 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,864 Get on a bus, you get off a bus. You do your show, you get back on the bus. 648 00:39:48,908 --> 00:39:51,650 You go to the hotel, you-- you didn't have time to even hang out. 649 00:39:51,693 --> 00:39:53,434 It's time to go to sleep, get up, get on the bus. 650 00:39:53,478 --> 00:39:55,871 Well the buses were fine. Actually, there was always somebody, 651 00:39:55,915 --> 00:39:58,439 a group of somebody's playing cards in the back. 652 00:39:58,483 --> 00:40:00,615 There was a great sense of camaraderie on it. 653 00:40:00,659 --> 00:40:04,576 We just had each other and the jamming and the kidding around and the joking. 654 00:40:04,619 --> 00:40:09,537 It was a big-- big family. I was working with some of the biggest acts at the time. 655 00:40:09,581 --> 00:40:12,148 We didn't think of anyone as being a legend, 656 00:40:12,192 --> 00:40:16,892 but here I am, you know, thirty days and sixty days, you know, eating and drinking, 657 00:40:16,936 --> 00:40:20,635 and laughing and joking with Buddy Holly, and Dion, and Frankie Avalon, 658 00:40:20,679 --> 00:40:23,725 and Bobby Darin, and The Coasters, The Drifters. 659 00:40:23,769 --> 00:40:26,119 We were all just having a good time. 660 00:40:26,162 --> 00:40:29,078 I made lifelong friends on those tours. 661 00:40:33,692 --> 00:40:36,869 There was a lot of fun. It was all brand new to us. 662 00:40:37,739 --> 00:40:39,132 The South was different. 663 00:40:41,134 --> 00:40:44,572 [chuckles] The South was a lot different. It was-- it wasn't as much fun. 664 00:40:44,616 --> 00:40:46,748 [music playing] 665 00:40:55,583 --> 00:40:59,500 I'll never forget Birmingham, Alabama. It was scary. 666 00:40:59,544 --> 00:41:01,502 It was a scary time in my life. 667 00:41:01,546 --> 00:41:03,461 During 1959, we did 668 00:41:03,504 --> 00:41:06,507 a six-week tour of one-nighters in the south 669 00:41:07,552 --> 00:41:12,034 and that was a mind-boggling 670 00:41:12,078 --> 00:41:15,124 and eye-opening situation for all of us. 671 00:41:15,168 --> 00:41:20,652 We would see people outside with sticks, guns, 672 00:41:20,695 --> 00:41:25,047 "better not get off that bus boy," you know, it was a heck of a time man. 673 00:41:25,091 --> 00:41:28,224 [Lois] You know, we knew what we were reading on-- in the papers. 674 00:41:28,268 --> 00:41:31,489 We heard it on the news. We saw things on TV 675 00:41:31,532 --> 00:41:35,014 about what was happening in the south, but we really didn't have a clue. 676 00:41:35,057 --> 00:41:41,673 To play the South was like, it was hard for me as a teenager, as a young teenager. 677 00:41:41,716 --> 00:41:44,980 I don't know about the other girls because they were eighteen 678 00:41:45,024 --> 00:41:47,809 and maybe they were more mature than I was. 679 00:41:47,853 --> 00:41:52,858 I wasn't as mature to understand racism and I was angry. 680 00:41:52,901 --> 00:41:56,644 [sighs] Rough, man. Some of them was rough, you know. 681 00:41:56,688 --> 00:41:59,125 We had to go to the back room. When we would go into the south, 682 00:41:59,168 --> 00:42:03,825 we had to go to the back room to eat. We couldn't sit down and rest around. 683 00:42:04,783 --> 00:42:07,263 Mmm-hm, they wouldn't-- they wouldn't serve you. 684 00:42:08,221 --> 00:42:09,831 They wouldn't serve you back then. 685 00:42:10,658 --> 00:42:13,269 [music playing] 686 00:42:21,582 --> 00:42:24,106 We're kids. We go, we sit at the counter 687 00:42:25,238 --> 00:42:28,676 and we go to order and somebody said, "You can't order sitting here." 688 00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:30,678 "What do you mean we can't order?" 689 00:42:30,722 --> 00:42:34,552 You know and then, you know, we went and did the, "We're from New York." 690 00:42:34,595 --> 00:42:38,033 And a guy, a black guy came and tapped us, and he said, "Come here." 691 00:42:38,077 --> 00:42:42,864 And he said, "You're gonna get us killed. You cannot order at a counter. 692 00:42:42,908 --> 00:42:45,867 You can only order over there and you can't eat here." 693 00:42:45,911 --> 00:42:49,697 White artists, they were allowed to sleep in the Sheraton Hotels 694 00:42:49,741 --> 00:42:52,961 when we were not allowed to sleep at Sheraton Hotels. 695 00:42:53,005 --> 00:42:55,703 We had to sleep on some floors of hotels. 696 00:42:55,747 --> 00:42:58,880 We had to stay in these, you know, backstreet motels 697 00:42:58,924 --> 00:43:02,231 that no kid should have been in because of the things that we heard. 698 00:43:02,275 --> 00:43:08,150 We couldn't see because we were pretty much locked in our rooms for our own protection. 699 00:43:08,194 --> 00:43:10,936 Cops would have to escort us in. They'd be looking at us, "Don't look, 700 00:43:10,979 --> 00:43:13,939 don't you look at no white girl. Don't look at a white girl." 701 00:43:14,853 --> 00:43:15,854 I mean, yep-- 702 00:43:17,420 --> 00:43:19,248 you have to keep your eyes like this, guns all around you, 703 00:43:19,292 --> 00:43:21,033 I mean, you know, it's frightening. 704 00:43:21,947 --> 00:43:23,862 [music playing] 705 00:43:30,346 --> 00:43:34,742 [Charlie T.] We did a show in Georgia with James Brown and they say-- 706 00:43:34,786 --> 00:43:39,094 the producers say, "You're not allowed to sing to black or white" 707 00:43:39,138 --> 00:43:43,621 and they put our microphones to the wall. We had to sing to the wall. 708 00:43:43,664 --> 00:43:47,102 First time I went to venue where the orchestra's to my back, 709 00:43:47,146 --> 00:43:48,321 I'm singing to the wall, 710 00:43:49,191 --> 00:43:52,151 there's white on this side, 711 00:43:53,021 --> 00:43:56,242 black on that side and they all screaming for the music. 712 00:43:56,285 --> 00:43:59,071 We're not looking to either side, we're looking to the wall. 713 00:43:59,114 --> 00:44:00,638 I mean, it was hard to-- 714 00:44:01,726 --> 00:44:04,685 hard to believe that I'm being hated on one side 715 00:44:04,729 --> 00:44:08,994 and getting so these kids are loving us. It was strange. 716 00:44:09,037 --> 00:44:13,215 By me being thirteen and, you know, a thirteen-year-old got a little fire in her. 717 00:44:13,259 --> 00:44:17,306 When the white kids would come and they would say to us, 718 00:44:17,350 --> 00:44:20,135 you know, with the southern accent, "Could I have your autograph?" 719 00:44:20,179 --> 00:44:21,659 And I would say no. 720 00:44:23,399 --> 00:44:26,141 Why do I have to give my autograph? You know that was my way 721 00:44:26,185 --> 00:44:31,190 of rebelling and that was my way of being heard. 722 00:44:31,233 --> 00:44:33,801 We went down to Charleston, South Carolina 723 00:44:33,845 --> 00:44:37,022 and the bus driver was a white guy. His name was Little Willie, you know. 724 00:44:37,065 --> 00:44:39,415 So, him and I went down to [mumbles]. 725 00:44:39,459 --> 00:44:42,288 A water faucet for the black and water faucet for the white. 726 00:44:42,331 --> 00:44:46,858 You know, so Willie said, "I'm gonna get me a drink of water," you know. 727 00:44:46,901 --> 00:44:49,121 I said-- he said, "Come on, go with me Charlie." 728 00:44:49,164 --> 00:44:51,689 So, I went with him. He was up to this, you know, 729 00:44:51,732 --> 00:44:55,910 and so he went to the white faucet. He said, "Come here, Charlie." 730 00:44:55,954 --> 00:44:57,956 Said, "You drink out that one, I'm gonna drink out of this one." 731 00:44:57,999 --> 00:44:59,827 Like then we took a quick sip 732 00:44:59,871 --> 00:45:02,134 and went back. He said, "How do you feel?" 733 00:45:02,177 --> 00:45:05,180 "I feel like I drunk water." He said, "I do too." 734 00:45:05,224 --> 00:45:07,835 He said, "I do too." 735 00:45:07,879 --> 00:45:11,143 He said, "Now you can see how the water tastes on the white side. 736 00:45:11,186 --> 00:45:15,190 And I can see how the water tastes on the black side." I said, "Okay." 737 00:45:15,234 --> 00:45:18,237 In my mind as a kid, I'm performing for you. 738 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:22,458 I'm doing everything I can and I hear all this applause and you like me. 739 00:45:22,502 --> 00:45:25,026 And I'm happy that you like me, you know. 740 00:45:25,070 --> 00:45:29,378 I'm good enough to perform when I'm on stage and I'm good enough 741 00:45:29,422 --> 00:45:32,425 for them too like me as a performer, 742 00:45:32,468 --> 00:45:35,167 but I'm not good enough for them to like me as a person. 743 00:45:35,210 --> 00:45:40,041 But then as I got older, I realized that, uh, 744 00:45:40,085 --> 00:45:42,348 color doesn't matter, you know. 745 00:45:42,391 --> 00:45:45,307 And I know that I had to develop from inside 746 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,398 and not outside. I had to learn that it didn't matter. 747 00:45:51,792 --> 00:45:53,881 [music playing] 748 00:45:59,539 --> 00:46:04,065 Obscenity and vulgarity of the rock and roll music 749 00:46:05,153 --> 00:46:09,244 is obviously a means by which the white man 750 00:46:09,288 --> 00:46:11,986 and his children can be driven to the level with a nigger. 751 00:46:12,030 --> 00:46:16,425 Rock and roll has got to go. And go it does at KWK. 752 00:46:16,469 --> 00:46:19,994 This was a time when there were movements 753 00:46:20,038 --> 00:46:23,824 within the country to ban rock and roll from radio and everywhere else 754 00:46:23,868 --> 00:46:27,219 because first of all they considered it the devil's music 755 00:46:27,262 --> 00:46:30,918 and the people that did not consider it the devil's music, 756 00:46:30,962 --> 00:46:33,094 considered this Negro music. 757 00:46:33,138 --> 00:46:39,013 Most of the great songs were coming from the R&B singers 758 00:46:39,057 --> 00:46:43,539 and all those songs were copied by at least four or five or six white artists. 759 00:46:43,583 --> 00:46:47,065 As soon as the black artists had a great hit, they jumped right on it. 760 00:46:47,108 --> 00:46:50,982 And so you can see when The Chords came out with "Sh-boom" 761 00:46:51,025 --> 00:46:54,420 which is very black sounding rhythm and blues song, 762 00:46:54,463 --> 00:46:57,466 then The Crew Cuts out of Canada started doing it 763 00:46:57,510 --> 00:47:01,470 as a white group and they toned it way down and made it more commercial. 764 00:47:01,514 --> 00:47:04,038 ["Sh-boom" by The Crew Cuts playing] 765 00:47:16,529 --> 00:47:19,837 ["Sh-boom" by The Chords playing] 766 00:47:28,541 --> 00:47:32,327 When I heard their version, I was livid. I was so angry 767 00:47:32,371 --> 00:47:36,897 because first of all it wasn't-- it didn't have the same rhythm 768 00:47:36,941 --> 00:47:39,465 that you really wanted to dance-- at least we didn't. 769 00:47:39,508 --> 00:47:42,903 And I just thought it was-- it was so awful 770 00:47:42,947 --> 00:47:47,125 that they gave this such airplay and the guys-- 771 00:47:47,168 --> 00:47:49,562 The Chords never got a chance. 772 00:47:51,956 --> 00:47:55,394 ["Sh-boom" by The Chords playing] 773 00:47:55,437 --> 00:48:00,051 Pat Boone was doing Little Richard, which to me was, you know, it was unheard of. 774 00:48:00,094 --> 00:48:03,315 Pat Boone covered Little Richard's "Tutti Frutti," 775 00:48:03,358 --> 00:48:06,492 you know, and tamed it down some and then that was played 776 00:48:06,535 --> 00:48:09,625 on the white stations that would not play black music. 777 00:48:09,669 --> 00:48:11,976 [Terry] Pat was covering everybody's songs 778 00:48:12,019 --> 00:48:17,024 and he was really making this and it was a disheartening thing 779 00:48:17,068 --> 00:48:21,202 to hear something that was recorded by these guys 780 00:48:21,246 --> 00:48:24,902 and watch a white guy take over and reap the rewards, 781 00:48:24,945 --> 00:48:28,906 and the financial and the success. It was a drag. 782 00:48:30,081 --> 00:48:33,562 [Wally] They didn't put black people on th cover of their records. 783 00:48:33,606 --> 00:48:36,435 Fats Domino just sold twenty-five million records 784 00:48:36,478 --> 00:48:38,132 and you don't put his picture on the cover? 785 00:48:39,264 --> 00:48:41,179 At that particular time, they didn't. 786 00:48:41,222 --> 00:48:44,922 "I Only Have Eyes for You" was on our album "Flamingo Serenade." 787 00:48:48,055 --> 00:48:50,318 ["I only have eyes for you" by The Flamingos playing] 788 00:48:55,628 --> 00:48:57,195 We wanted our picture on it. 789 00:48:58,979 --> 00:49:01,416 I'm sitting on a stool with my guitar Tommy Hunt's there. 790 00:49:01,460 --> 00:49:05,638 Nate's at the table with the champagne, and what a great picture, 791 00:49:06,639 --> 00:49:08,946 but George had to stop doing that. He said, 792 00:49:08,989 --> 00:49:10,991 "We can't use-- we can't use the photographs anymore." 793 00:49:12,123 --> 00:49:14,299 We said, "Why?" He said, "Because down South they-- 794 00:49:15,430 --> 00:49:17,389 down South is not gonna play it." 795 00:49:17,432 --> 00:49:20,261 They're not gonna play it because they see us black guys, we can't do that. 796 00:49:20,305 --> 00:49:23,090 So Flamingo Favorites, 797 00:49:23,134 --> 00:49:26,006 they had a whole field of green grass 798 00:49:26,050 --> 00:49:29,096 and then they had all these pink flamingo birds. 799 00:49:29,140 --> 00:49:33,448 They could accept our music and, you know, our singing, but not-- 800 00:49:33,492 --> 00:49:35,624 wrong color, man. Wrong color. 801 00:49:35,668 --> 00:49:37,670 [music playing] 802 00:49:45,330 --> 00:49:48,507 When rock and roll and doo-wop started, 803 00:49:49,334 --> 00:49:55,035 there was no script. There was no rhyme or reason. There was no how-to book. 804 00:49:55,079 --> 00:50:01,389 In 1955-56, uhm, you know, black artists, 805 00:50:01,433 --> 00:50:06,046 and especially, young; their parents didn't know anything about copyright. 806 00:50:06,090 --> 00:50:08,483 They didn't know about music law. 807 00:50:08,527 --> 00:50:10,659 They didn't know about royalties. 808 00:50:10,703 --> 00:50:14,489 Our parents believed everything that our manager told them. 809 00:50:14,533 --> 00:50:17,144 We didn't know any better. We were all young and dumb 810 00:50:17,188 --> 00:50:20,060 and because the record companies knew that so they took advantage of it. 811 00:50:20,713 --> 00:50:25,413 Our manager was George Goldner. He said, "Hey, this is for the board. Sign this." 812 00:50:25,457 --> 00:50:29,287 Okay, they signed, but they didn't know that they were signing away our rights. 813 00:50:29,330 --> 00:50:31,419 My lyrics have been taken. 814 00:50:31,463 --> 00:50:34,553 I've gotten-- not one royalty in my life 815 00:50:34,596 --> 00:50:37,686 and I wrote practically everything that we-- we recorded. 816 00:50:38,339 --> 00:50:42,517 This is one of the-- the parts of the music industry 817 00:50:42,561 --> 00:50:46,260 that people need to know about. Frankie Lymon and The Teenagers 818 00:50:46,304 --> 00:50:50,525 also represents the great American Royalty Rip-off. 819 00:50:50,569 --> 00:50:53,572 "Why Do Fools Fall in Love" is played in elevators. 820 00:50:53,615 --> 00:50:59,360 I heard it on American Idol. Numerous people have recorded it; 821 00:50:59,404 --> 00:51:02,450 Diana Ross, The Beach Boys. 822 00:51:03,669 --> 00:51:06,367 Frankie's wife is getting royalties, 823 00:51:06,411 --> 00:51:10,241 but he didn't get no money while he was alive and we don't. 824 00:51:11,111 --> 00:51:14,723 [Eddie] I'm working on it now, I'm trying to get-- to get my royalties. 825 00:51:14,767 --> 00:51:17,770 They're selling my records, they're still playing 826 00:51:17,813 --> 00:51:19,250 them and they're still out there doing it. 827 00:51:19,293 --> 00:51:20,381 They ain't changed, you know. 828 00:51:20,425 --> 00:51:21,600 They're still doing it. 829 00:51:21,643 --> 00:51:23,210 Look at the body of work. We sold seventy-- 830 00:51:23,254 --> 00:51:24,820 seventy-some million records 831 00:51:24,864 --> 00:51:26,431 over the years. We didn't even know it. 832 00:51:27,432 --> 00:51:29,564 Somebody got the money and it sure wasn't me. 833 00:51:29,608 --> 00:51:31,566 [music playing] 834 00:51:35,614 --> 00:51:38,356 Every time I saw a girl group on television I always wondered, 835 00:51:38,399 --> 00:51:41,576 "Oh, I bet they're having so much fun and look at their clothes, 836 00:51:41,620 --> 00:51:44,231 and their singing, and their vocals and their harmonies." 837 00:51:53,197 --> 00:51:57,114 When I moved to New York City from Philadelphia 838 00:51:57,157 --> 00:52:01,640 and I saw and heard various groups, 839 00:52:01,683 --> 00:52:05,296 I mean, even more so than in Philadelphia, on the street corners 840 00:52:05,339 --> 00:52:08,125 and that tight harmony just gave me chills. 841 00:52:08,168 --> 00:52:10,257 I knew that I wanted to be a part of that. 842 00:52:10,301 --> 00:52:14,522 The guys on the block used to stand on the corners and sing. 843 00:52:14,566 --> 00:52:17,134 Then we said, "Well, if they can do that, we can do that." 844 00:52:17,177 --> 00:52:19,701 We used to get on, like I said, on the porch and just sing 845 00:52:19,745 --> 00:52:22,356 with one another in schools after school, 846 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,446 that's what you did for fun in the summertime. That was what we did. 847 00:52:25,490 --> 00:52:27,361 -We loved to sing. -A-ha. 848 00:52:27,405 --> 00:52:30,495 I don't know how we became professional. 849 00:52:31,278 --> 00:52:32,453 It just happened 850 00:52:33,193 --> 00:52:37,284 as my becoming a Clickette just happened. 851 00:52:38,894 --> 00:52:40,896 ["Lover's Prayer" by The Clickettes playing] 852 00:52:45,205 --> 00:52:49,209 You know and we were classy. We came from good families, good parents, 853 00:52:49,253 --> 00:52:51,559 you know, we may have not had money, 854 00:52:51,603 --> 00:52:54,475 but we had morals. That's what The Crystals were about. 855 00:52:54,519 --> 00:52:58,349 We knew how to dress, we knew how not to be sleazy, 856 00:52:58,392 --> 00:53:02,570 we knew that when we'd go on the road, we'd have to protect ourselves. 857 00:53:02,614 --> 00:53:05,573 We just went out and did what we had to do and then went back to the dressing room 858 00:53:05,617 --> 00:53:07,488 and weren't allowed to socialize. 859 00:53:07,532 --> 00:53:09,838 For a woman in the industry, 860 00:53:09,882 --> 00:53:13,277 especially once she decides to get married and have kids, 861 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:17,281 she's juggling now. You know, she-- she-- her attention is divided, 862 00:53:17,324 --> 00:53:20,240 she can't be very as focused on her music, 863 00:53:20,284 --> 00:53:23,330 or you know, on the music side of her life because she's torn. 864 00:53:23,374 --> 00:53:26,638 And I experienced this-- as a mom, you know, and a wife. 865 00:53:26,681 --> 00:53:30,598 [Fanita] You know, when they called us and told us they wanted us to go on tour, 866 00:53:30,642 --> 00:53:33,949 and to be gone for maybe two months, oh. 867 00:53:33,993 --> 00:53:38,345 I was devastated. I mean, I had one small boy. 868 00:53:38,389 --> 00:53:41,696 It was just the hardest thing I've ever had to do. 869 00:53:41,740 --> 00:53:45,744 As young girls, it wasn't easy. The pay was horrible. 870 00:53:45,787 --> 00:53:49,791 We still struggled, no matter if the people were dancing to it, 871 00:53:49,835 --> 00:53:54,361 enjoying our music, we as artists, we were struggling. 872 00:53:54,405 --> 00:53:58,713 Let's forget about the intro for now, let's just come right in. One, two, three. 873 00:53:58,757 --> 00:54:02,239 [music playing] 874 00:54:02,282 --> 00:54:07,548 [La La] When we did work with Phil, we knew that we were gonna have a hit. 875 00:54:07,592 --> 00:54:10,769 With all the music that was around us in the studio, 876 00:54:11,857 --> 00:54:15,904 you knew, that there was something special 877 00:54:15,948 --> 00:54:17,558 that's gonna come out of this studio. 878 00:54:17,602 --> 00:54:19,604 [Fanita] He was a genius. 879 00:54:19,647 --> 00:54:21,954 He was different. He was a different producer. 880 00:54:21,997 --> 00:54:24,043 He knew exactly what he wanted 881 00:54:24,739 --> 00:54:28,003 and we did exactly, you know, what he told us to do. 882 00:54:28,047 --> 00:54:32,573 He would go into the studio and create a wall of sound. 883 00:54:32,617 --> 00:54:35,010 ["Then he kissed me" by The Crystals playing] 884 00:54:36,577 --> 00:54:39,711 And then when he heard "Then He Kissed Me," it was like-- 885 00:54:39,754 --> 00:54:43,323 they thought it was like as if it was an opera. I know-- 886 00:54:43,367 --> 00:54:45,804 all they're saying about "Then He Kissed Me" is like, "Huh?" 887 00:54:46,892 --> 00:54:48,502 I'm just putting down the track. 888 00:54:49,373 --> 00:54:51,462 I didn't even have a boyfriend at the time 889 00:54:51,505 --> 00:54:54,029 to even know what the lyrics meant. 890 00:54:54,639 --> 00:54:58,295 That's what Phil picked up on, innocence. 891 00:54:58,338 --> 00:55:02,342 And when you're innocent and pure, and you're putting down the track 892 00:55:03,430 --> 00:55:06,955 that's what came in. I think, if I had been dating, 893 00:55:06,999 --> 00:55:09,915 even though I was fifteen, maybe I was like dating a little bit, 894 00:55:09,958 --> 00:55:12,047 I may have had a little attitude. 895 00:55:12,091 --> 00:55:15,355 [Fanita] Well, the experience that we got from working with Phil Spector 896 00:55:15,399 --> 00:55:20,447 was endurance because we had to have patience with him. 897 00:55:20,491 --> 00:55:24,016 And he'd work you to death. I mean, I remember going to the studio 898 00:55:24,059 --> 00:55:28,716 and working with Phil, Sonny Bono picking me up at the Knickerbocker Hotel, 899 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,676 would share, and he would pick me up at 12 o'clock. 900 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,548 And I wouldn't leave the studio until five o'clock in the morning. 901 00:55:34,592 --> 00:55:38,117 He would call us sometimes at four o'clock in the morning, 902 00:55:39,118 --> 00:55:40,859 to come and do the background. 903 00:55:40,902 --> 00:55:44,036 And my husband wasn't very happy about that at the time, 904 00:55:44,079 --> 00:55:47,344 but we got up and, you know, we-- we went and did what we had to do. 905 00:55:47,387 --> 00:55:52,000 His sound was so big that they call it the Wall of Sound. 906 00:55:52,044 --> 00:55:55,526 He taught me how to produce records. How to produce guitars, 907 00:55:55,569 --> 00:55:57,702 and pianos, combine them together, 908 00:55:57,745 --> 00:56:00,052 drums and bass. I learned a lot from him. 909 00:56:00,095 --> 00:56:02,054 [Jerry] Phil was a genius, 910 00:56:02,924 --> 00:56:06,537 but as all geniuses sometimes, you get a little nuts. 911 00:56:08,539 --> 00:56:10,715 [Fanita] You know, when we were at Fremont High School 912 00:56:11,629 --> 00:56:14,675 walking down the halls, singing a cappella, 913 00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,503 I had no idea 914 00:56:17,417 --> 00:56:20,028 that I would have a career like this, 915 00:56:20,072 --> 00:56:22,117 being able to see the world, 916 00:56:22,161 --> 00:56:23,945 just had no idea this-- you know, 917 00:56:23,989 --> 00:56:25,817 that it would happen to a little girl like me. 918 00:56:27,949 --> 00:56:30,038 [Lois] What I'm most proud of for The Chantels is that through all of-- 919 00:56:30,691 --> 00:56:34,434 what we went through, we maintained our integrity, 920 00:56:34,478 --> 00:56:37,916 our sense of who we were, and we never lost that. 921 00:56:37,959 --> 00:56:39,918 [music playing] 922 00:56:44,009 --> 00:56:48,056 The white folk did not listen any longer and silenced. 923 00:56:48,100 --> 00:56:53,584 They were bold about the fact that they liked doo-wop, they liked black music. 924 00:56:54,933 --> 00:56:57,414 ["Tears on my pillow" by Little Anthony & The Imperials playing] 925 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,507 With the kids, there was no problem. 926 00:57:03,550 --> 00:57:06,684 It was a grown-ups-- they were the ones that didn't like it, 927 00:57:06,727 --> 00:57:09,469 but the kids, they were getting into it. 928 00:57:09,513 --> 00:57:12,907 -That music was restricted in your white families. -Yeah. 929 00:57:12,951 --> 00:57:14,953 -It was called jungle music-- -Yeah. 930 00:57:14,996 --> 00:57:19,523 Or jigaboo music, whatever, but see, the white kids loved the music. 931 00:57:19,566 --> 00:57:21,742 So, I mean, it was coming. 932 00:57:21,786 --> 00:57:24,919 All of a sudden, these black artists are breaking out everywhere and crossing over, 933 00:57:24,963 --> 00:57:27,835 but we crossed over in such a remarkable way, 934 00:57:28,662 --> 00:57:29,794 we bridged it. 935 00:57:30,621 --> 00:57:32,753 [music playing] 936 00:57:36,888 --> 00:57:41,066 I went to Dallas and right down the center they-- they had a rope 937 00:57:41,980 --> 00:57:44,896 right down the center of the place and they had the black on this side, 938 00:57:44,939 --> 00:57:46,506 and the white on this side. 939 00:57:47,028 --> 00:57:48,987 And as we were singing, 940 00:57:49,030 --> 00:57:52,556 these on this side was shaking hand with this hand they were dancing like-- 941 00:57:52,599 --> 00:57:56,124 like, you know, like you have to dance with a girl and you grab my hand. 942 00:57:56,168 --> 00:57:59,127 The white and the black were doing this across the rope. 943 00:57:59,171 --> 00:58:01,478 And then after that we stopped. 944 00:58:02,043 --> 00:58:05,830 We stopped the band and stopped everything and asked the promoter there-- 945 00:58:05,873 --> 00:58:08,615 asked can we take the rope aloof. 946 00:58:08,659 --> 00:58:11,488 We said, "Look how those kids are dancing. Look how they're doing together." 947 00:58:11,531 --> 00:58:15,056 And when he took the rope aloof from the front-- at the front of it, 948 00:58:15,100 --> 00:58:17,755 they went together, man, they started dancing with each other 949 00:58:17,798 --> 00:58:19,800 and it just flipped. 950 00:58:19,844 --> 00:58:24,196 So, from then on, we had mixed crowds and we loved it. 951 00:58:29,854 --> 00:58:32,770 Things were turning around. Things were changing. 952 00:58:32,813 --> 00:58:36,774 That was the very beginning of this integration thing. 953 00:58:36,817 --> 00:58:38,950 As things progressed, 954 00:58:38,993 --> 00:58:43,911 it was not uncommon for audiences in some of the big concerts 955 00:58:43,955 --> 00:58:45,304 to be mixed, black and white. 956 00:58:47,175 --> 00:58:51,136 And it was in a sense of, people who then would grow up into the 60s 957 00:58:51,179 --> 00:58:55,053 that realized that this was just one aspect of black culture. 958 00:58:56,576 --> 00:59:00,885 This was creating a sea change in America. 959 00:59:00,928 --> 00:59:05,019 Our music kind of like melted the races together. 960 00:59:05,063 --> 00:59:09,197 If there's one legacy that doo-wop music has is 961 00:59:09,241 --> 00:59:13,158 that it did help usher in an era of civil rights. 962 00:59:13,201 --> 00:59:17,597 Music has always had a way of being the great common denominator 963 00:59:17,641 --> 00:59:19,947 that brought people together. 964 00:59:19,991 --> 00:59:24,691 This music moved the country to a place 965 00:59:24,735 --> 00:59:28,260 where in the 60s the civil rights movement was ready to happen. 966 00:59:32,917 --> 00:59:36,747 Doo-wop music really peaked in the late 1950s, 967 00:59:36,790 --> 00:59:40,707 uh, and of course, you could see even then it was starting to change. 968 00:59:40,751 --> 00:59:45,190 When you got into the 1960s there were different styles of music coming through. 969 00:59:45,233 --> 00:59:47,105 [music playing] 970 00:59:55,243 --> 01:00:00,597 As you moved into the 1960s, things got a little bit slicker in the music. 971 01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:04,122 Doo-wop music had at this point branched off into a number of styles. 972 01:00:04,165 --> 01:00:06,646 The white groups that are out there singing 973 01:00:06,690 --> 01:00:09,823 with sort of an Italian-American influence to them 974 01:00:09,867 --> 01:00:12,609 were the groups that would evolve into the white groups 975 01:00:12,652 --> 01:00:15,046 of the 1960s like the Beach Boys. 976 01:00:16,874 --> 01:00:19,311 ["Surfin'" by The Beach Boys playing] 977 01:00:22,009 --> 01:00:25,012 Doo-wop kind of became rock and roll. 978 01:00:25,056 --> 01:00:28,668 Those kinds of harmonies were to lay the foundation for us 979 01:00:28,712 --> 01:00:33,238 to create, you know, music about more contemporary things, like surfing. 980 01:00:34,021 --> 01:00:38,635 Like, "Surfing is the only life, the only way for me. Surf with me. 981 01:00:38,678 --> 01:00:41,376 Bop, bop doop-de-doop-de-doo. Bop, bop." 982 01:00:44,771 --> 01:00:49,123 So, you had a little more of an evolved doo-wop sound 983 01:00:49,167 --> 01:00:52,736 as the origins of the Beach Boys incarnation. 984 01:00:55,173 --> 01:00:57,828 Well, the four freshmen taught me a harmony, 985 01:00:57,871 --> 01:01:01,309 and-- and falsetto. Well, it was four-part harmony. 986 01:01:01,353 --> 01:01:03,747 It spoke to me in a very spiritual way. 987 01:01:05,879 --> 01:01:08,142 Brian's voice I thought was beautiful, I mean, 988 01:01:08,186 --> 01:01:11,145 he honestly captured that Frankie Lymon quality to me. 989 01:01:11,189 --> 01:01:15,149 Real, real pure even and Brian had that. 990 01:01:15,193 --> 01:01:20,024 Boy did we get lucky with the voices and composition and roots 991 01:01:20,851 --> 01:01:24,158 to work from, you know, the basic roots. Very fortunate. 992 01:01:26,726 --> 01:01:28,554 [Brian] When I heard "Surfin'"-- 993 01:01:28,597 --> 01:01:30,338 my family and I were listening to the radio and they played "Surfin'." 994 01:01:32,384 --> 01:01:34,778 And we couldn't believe it. We said, "Oh, my God! Surfin's on the radio." 995 01:01:34,821 --> 01:01:37,432 I was proud as hell, you know. Proud as hell. 996 01:01:37,476 --> 01:01:39,696 [music playing] 997 01:01:49,401 --> 01:01:53,013 Now, Motown started out in the late 1950s 998 01:01:53,057 --> 01:01:56,843 and Berry Gordy was writing songs for Jackie Wilson. 999 01:01:56,887 --> 01:01:59,324 Jackie Wilson, of course, had a strong doo-wop background. 1000 01:01:59,367 --> 01:02:02,893 He started with The Dominoes and then went out on his own. 1001 01:02:02,936 --> 01:02:06,200 Berry Gordy, in my opinion, did 1002 01:02:06,244 --> 01:02:09,029 probably as much as Martin Luther King 1003 01:02:09,073 --> 01:02:12,076 did to bring the races together. He did it through music. 1004 01:02:13,077 --> 01:02:15,079 ["It's the same old song" by The Four Tops playing] 1005 01:02:16,994 --> 01:02:19,953 [Charlie H.] Berry Gordy was looking for talent and he stumbled upon 1006 01:02:19,997 --> 01:02:22,869 none other than Smokey Robinson and The Miracles. 1007 01:02:22,913 --> 01:02:24,784 Smokey Robinson and The Miracles, 1008 01:02:24,828 --> 01:02:28,266 you listen to his early recordings then you can hear the influence 1009 01:02:28,309 --> 01:02:31,008 of the other Detroit doo-wop group that was so big, 1010 01:02:31,051 --> 01:02:32,966 Nolan Strong and the Diablos. 1011 01:02:33,010 --> 01:02:34,446 Berry Gordy came along. 1012 01:02:35,273 --> 01:02:38,232 He said, "I'm gonna make music for young America. 1013 01:02:38,276 --> 01:02:42,846 I'm gonna have song writers to write hits for just this particular act." 1014 01:02:42,889 --> 01:02:45,022 Berry had a stable of young writers, 1015 01:02:45,544 --> 01:02:47,415 you know, kids out of Detroit. 1016 01:02:47,459 --> 01:02:50,418 Holland-Dozier-Holland, everybody's writing, 1017 01:02:50,462 --> 01:02:52,159 Smokey's writing, they're all in house, 1018 01:02:53,204 --> 01:02:55,772 and they're coming out with this whole new sound. 1019 01:02:55,815 --> 01:02:58,949 The sound of doo-wop and Motown 1020 01:02:58,992 --> 01:03:02,430 were distant cousins in a sense. 1021 01:03:03,170 --> 01:03:08,523 The doo-wop era in the 50s were basically just a way to get started. 1022 01:03:08,567 --> 01:03:13,485 Get your opinion, your feeling, into that genre of R&B music. 1023 01:03:13,528 --> 01:03:16,053 Motown is a little more sophisticated. 1024 01:03:16,096 --> 01:03:21,275 They have more lyrics, more melodies, more chord progressions. 1025 01:03:21,319 --> 01:03:23,234 [music playing] 1026 01:03:29,066 --> 01:03:32,460 The stuff is still around and the people are still-- 1027 01:03:32,504 --> 01:03:35,289 when they throw parties, the first thing they want to hear 1028 01:03:35,333 --> 01:03:38,118 is a bunch of Motown songs when they're having a party, you know. 1029 01:03:38,162 --> 01:03:41,426 You're not partying, unless you got Motown on Jukebox. 1030 01:03:41,469 --> 01:03:44,559 Oh, my gosh! You can listen to that stuff now and it stills sounds fresh. 1031 01:03:47,606 --> 01:03:51,958 I think doo-wop had its time. I mean, it was sort-- 1032 01:03:52,002 --> 01:03:54,134 it was here and then it was gone, but-- 1033 01:03:54,178 --> 01:03:56,963 in one way but in another way, 1034 01:03:57,007 --> 01:03:59,444 it was always there in like an undercurrent. 1035 01:03:59,487 --> 01:04:01,925 The instrumentation sort of changed it 1036 01:04:01,968 --> 01:04:04,884 and it gave it a more sophisticated sound, 1037 01:04:04,928 --> 01:04:08,148 but the root of all of it is still doo-wop. 1038 01:04:13,197 --> 01:04:15,982 [TV presenter] There are rumors around that this is Britain's revenge 1039 01:04:16,026 --> 01:04:19,290 for the Boston Tea Party. Three thousand screaming teenagers 1040 01:04:19,333 --> 01:04:21,858 are at New York's Kennedy Airport to greet, 1041 01:04:21,901 --> 01:04:23,598 you guessed it, The Beatles. 1042 01:04:23,642 --> 01:04:25,470 Beatles! 1043 01:04:25,513 --> 01:04:28,603 The musical Shack that was heard around the world. 1044 01:04:28,647 --> 01:04:33,870 [Tony] Well, this jet pulls in, 707 and one by one, 1045 01:04:33,913 --> 01:04:36,524 a mop top came down on the steps. 1046 01:04:36,568 --> 01:04:41,355 The Beatles, the phenomena, it's just nothing ever happened like it before. 1047 01:04:41,399 --> 01:04:42,879 They just took over. 1048 01:04:42,922 --> 01:04:46,012 They had the song. They had the writers, you know. 1049 01:04:46,056 --> 01:04:48,188 They had the writers singing the song. 1050 01:04:48,232 --> 01:04:52,889 They taught the world. I respect them highly, always have. 1051 01:04:52,932 --> 01:04:55,021 [TV presenter] Their first meeting with the American press 1052 01:04:55,065 --> 01:04:57,545 brings forth an interview laced with quips and humor. 1053 01:04:57,589 --> 01:05:02,594 You'd laugh too with a gross of 17 million dollars last year. 1054 01:05:02,637 --> 01:05:06,380 The only thing is when they came here, they 1055 01:05:06,424 --> 01:05:11,037 killed our music. Yeah, our music stopped dead in its tracks. 1056 01:05:11,081 --> 01:05:14,084 We had that-- that feeling against the Beatles and English music 1057 01:05:14,127 --> 01:05:15,563 and what-- how could you do this to us? 1058 01:05:15,607 --> 01:05:18,044 Just as music was at it's highlight, 1059 01:05:18,088 --> 01:05:21,221 -the black music, you know, they came in with a rush. -Yeah. 1060 01:05:21,265 --> 01:05:23,049 And that really knocked us to our knees. 1061 01:05:23,093 --> 01:05:26,096 [Jon] The British Invasion had put an effective end 1062 01:05:26,139 --> 01:05:29,926 to the record sales of the 50s, early 60s style. 1063 01:05:29,969 --> 01:05:33,016 And they came, even doing some of our music. 1064 01:05:33,059 --> 01:05:37,281 The world had changed so rapidly, uhm, in the 60s. 1065 01:05:37,324 --> 01:05:40,240 The most turbulent decade of any of our lives, 1066 01:05:40,284 --> 01:05:43,983 who have lived that long, uhm. Turbulent in every possible way, 1067 01:05:44,027 --> 01:05:47,465 you know. Turbulent politically, turbulent geopolitically, 1068 01:05:47,508 --> 01:05:50,468 you know, war in Vietnam was going on. 1069 01:05:50,511 --> 01:05:55,386 The innocence by the end of the 60s was kaput, if-- there was no innocence. 1070 01:05:55,429 --> 01:05:56,604 End of an era. 1071 01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:04,264 Doo-wop groups have never gone away. They just-- they evolved. 1072 01:06:04,308 --> 01:06:08,225 It comes back, you know. It's always you know reinventing itself 1073 01:06:08,268 --> 01:06:10,096 and that's what we're seeing always, you know. 1074 01:06:10,140 --> 01:06:11,968 That-- those groups will never go away. 1075 01:06:12,011 --> 01:06:13,578 They just reinvent themselves. 1076 01:06:13,621 --> 01:06:16,624 Billy Joel had a great line, "Everything old is new again." 1077 01:06:16,668 --> 01:06:20,280 Nothing that's good really dies. 1078 01:06:20,324 --> 01:06:22,326 [music playing] 1079 01:06:27,331 --> 01:06:31,639 Remember Sha Na Na. Watching Sha Na Na on Saturday night, 1080 01:06:31,683 --> 01:06:34,294 ♪ Do-do-do-do-do Do-do-do-do-do♪ 1081 01:06:34,338 --> 01:06:36,253 ♪ Tonight sweetheart--♪ It was like-- 1082 01:06:37,384 --> 01:06:39,299 if-- if I could do that. 1083 01:06:39,343 --> 01:06:41,736 When Sha Na Na started doing this 1084 01:06:41,780 --> 01:06:45,001 in the very late 60s, early 70s, 1085 01:06:45,044 --> 01:06:47,394 it's very hard to describe if you weren't there, but it seemed 1086 01:06:47,438 --> 01:06:50,354 like it was a thousand years ago 1087 01:06:50,397 --> 01:06:53,096 that this music had happened. It was a reclamation 1088 01:06:53,139 --> 01:06:56,403 of what seemed like our youthful innocence. 1089 01:06:56,447 --> 01:07:00,059 - Let's give a big Sha Na Na welcome to The Coasters. -[cheering and aplause] 1090 01:07:02,714 --> 01:07:07,066 Miss Ronnie Spector and The Ronettes. 1091 01:07:09,112 --> 01:07:12,593 -Martha Reeves and the Vandellas. Hey! -[cheering and aplause] 1092 01:07:12,637 --> 01:07:15,770 Prepare to meet Little Anthony. 1093 01:07:18,164 --> 01:07:22,038 -Hey, it is Ben E. King. -[cheering and aplause] 1094 01:07:22,081 --> 01:07:24,388 Because we really had grown up awfully fast. 1095 01:07:24,431 --> 01:07:26,694 Goodnight and "Grease for Peace." 1096 01:07:26,738 --> 01:07:31,134 Then "Grease" opens, the musical. 1097 01:07:31,177 --> 01:07:33,223 American Graffiti came along. 1098 01:07:33,266 --> 01:07:35,790 [TV presenter] Grab that special one and jump into your candy colored custom, 1099 01:07:35,834 --> 01:07:40,099 or your screaming machine, cruise down town and catch American Graffiti. 1100 01:07:40,143 --> 01:07:42,536 Finally, ultimately in the mid-70s 1101 01:07:42,580 --> 01:07:47,498 this nostalgia craze peaked with "Happy Days" and "Laverne and Shirley." 1102 01:07:47,541 --> 01:07:52,198 We really did raise a whole generation of little kids 1103 01:07:52,242 --> 01:07:55,506 on doo-wop and early rock and and roll. 1104 01:07:55,549 --> 01:07:58,770 My dad being from New York and being in, you know, 1105 01:07:58,813 --> 01:08:02,556 that was able to be in that scene as a teenager-- 1106 01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:06,691 to be able to-- and he comes home and finds me listening to these records, he's like, 1107 01:08:06,734 --> 01:08:09,650 "Why are you listening to those records?" I was like, "Because they're awesome." 1108 01:08:09,694 --> 01:08:13,437 He's like, "But you're seven." I was like, "I don't care." 1109 01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,265 They're so awesome. They're still awesome to this day. 1110 01:08:15,308 --> 01:08:18,485 Vocal harmony groups have been around for a very long time now 1111 01:08:18,529 --> 01:08:23,447 and they're not gonna go away. You see genres and music come and go, and come and go, 1112 01:08:23,490 --> 01:08:27,407 but that vocal harmony group, it's-- it's always been around with guys and girls. 1113 01:08:27,451 --> 01:08:29,757 [music playing] 1114 01:08:29,801 --> 01:08:32,630 The core of NSYNC is the harmonies. It's the singing. 1115 01:08:32,673 --> 01:08:35,198 It always has been and it always will be. 1116 01:08:35,241 --> 01:08:38,505 We were always aware of-- of what came before us, 1117 01:08:38,549 --> 01:08:41,595 you know, from the 30s to, you know, now. 1118 01:08:41,639 --> 01:08:44,381 We always respected those vocal harmony groups 1119 01:08:44,424 --> 01:08:48,167 because we really loved mixing that R&B with that doo-wop. 1120 01:08:51,823 --> 01:08:54,565 There's not that big a difference between the Ink Spots 1121 01:08:54,608 --> 01:08:57,829 and The Platters and Earth, Wind, and Fire 1122 01:08:57,872 --> 01:09:00,266 and the Doobie Brothers, or any of these groups. 1123 01:09:00,310 --> 01:09:02,442 It's all the same stuff. 1124 01:09:02,486 --> 01:09:04,575 [Anthony] Hip hop ain't no different. It's still urban, 1125 01:09:04,618 --> 01:09:05,924 it's still music in the streets, 1126 01:09:06,664 --> 01:09:09,275 still kids writings songs for kids. 1127 01:09:09,319 --> 01:09:13,453 You know, many young girls grew up, uhm, and were so influenced 1128 01:09:13,497 --> 01:09:18,502 that they, uhm, became recording artists like us. 1129 01:09:19,503 --> 01:09:22,158 We had a dream and that music gave us faith 1130 01:09:22,201 --> 01:09:24,290 to know that we could grow up and do the same thing. 1131 01:09:24,334 --> 01:09:26,901 And then to in turn, to pass that hope on to-- 1132 01:09:26,945 --> 01:09:28,512 -the next generation. -Right. 1133 01:09:31,863 --> 01:09:35,649 That is the root. When you get a bunch of guys 1134 01:09:35,693 --> 01:09:38,217 standing around together, harmonizing. 1135 01:09:38,261 --> 01:09:40,785 So, I think that it's going to continue to live. 1136 01:09:40,828 --> 01:09:42,613 This music will be with us forever. 1137 01:09:42,656 --> 01:09:44,571 [music playing] 1138 01:09:48,532 --> 01:09:50,534 We still carry on the flavor, 1139 01:09:51,448 --> 01:09:54,190 trust me. You'll still find out tonight. 1140 01:09:56,583 --> 01:09:59,499 [presenter] And I bring to you Mr. Diz Russell. 1141 01:09:59,543 --> 01:10:03,242 ♪ Baby please don't go Baby please don't go♪ 1142 01:10:03,286 --> 01:10:06,854 ♪ Baby please don't go Baby please don't go♪ 1143 01:10:06,898 --> 01:10:10,380 ♪ Now, baby please Don't go back to New Orleans♪ 1144 01:10:10,423 --> 01:10:13,731 ♪ Because I love you so Don't go, don't go♪ 1145 01:10:13,774 --> 01:10:17,213 ♪ You got me way down here You got me way down here♪ 1146 01:10:17,256 --> 01:10:19,519 Music is something that if you love it-- 1147 01:10:19,563 --> 01:10:22,957 I haven't been here over fifty or sixty years. 1148 01:10:23,001 --> 01:10:27,223 --once you get attached to it, you don't give it up. 1149 01:10:27,266 --> 01:10:29,268 You just don't give it up. 1150 01:10:33,925 --> 01:10:37,494 People don't forget good music. So, we're keeping it alive. 1151 01:10:37,537 --> 01:10:40,497 We love this music. It will never die. 1152 01:10:55,425 --> 01:10:59,777 It's just a great thing that The Orioles continue to keep the doo-wop alive. 1153 01:11:05,435 --> 01:11:08,264 [people cheering] 1154 01:11:09,308 --> 01:11:11,397 [Diz] Yeah! Thank you! 1155 01:11:11,441 --> 01:11:13,399 Still singing after all these years. 1156 01:11:13,443 --> 01:11:15,009 -You got it, man. -You reckon? 1157 01:11:15,053 --> 01:11:16,750 Oh, yeah. 1158 01:11:16,794 --> 01:11:19,797 So, this music was never supposed to mean anything 1159 01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,365 all these years later, but it has. 1160 01:11:44,691 --> 01:11:47,825 I had a saying, even at this time when we were young kids 1161 01:11:47,868 --> 01:11:49,957 singing on-- on the Avenue, 1162 01:11:50,001 --> 01:11:54,614 I saw ourselves being stars without a stage, 1163 01:11:54,658 --> 01:11:55,920 -right at that time. -Mmm-hm. 1164 01:11:56,921 --> 01:11:58,488 -Wherever you sang. -That's right. 1165 01:11:58,531 --> 01:12:00,664 -That was the stage. -All right. 1166 01:12:00,707 --> 01:12:03,971 We had touched on something that had never been done before 1167 01:12:04,015 --> 01:12:06,757 and all of a sudden, we were on the ground floor of this. 1168 01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:09,368 That was a-- that was a tremendous feeling. 1169 01:12:09,412 --> 01:12:11,936 I can't-- they can't take it away from us no matter what happens. 1170 01:12:11,979 --> 01:12:14,025 But the legacy, I'm there. 1171 01:12:14,068 --> 01:12:18,986 If you google, you see Barbra Jean English did a lot of stuff. 1172 01:12:19,596 --> 01:12:21,075 I stand on the shoulder of giants 1173 01:12:22,381 --> 01:12:23,687 who came before me. 1174 01:12:24,601 --> 01:12:27,343 And it's heck of a life. 1175 01:12:27,386 --> 01:12:30,476 I owe a debt of gratitude to-- 1176 01:12:31,521 --> 01:12:34,088 Frankie Lymon and The Teenagers 1177 01:12:34,132 --> 01:12:36,090 and every time I see Jimmy Merchant, 1178 01:12:36,134 --> 01:12:38,354 I put my arms around him and kiss him on the cheek 1179 01:12:39,616 --> 01:12:42,923 because they saved my life. Excuse me for getting choked up. 1180 01:12:43,881 --> 01:12:47,537 I just hope that whatever contribution we've made, uh, 1181 01:12:48,102 --> 01:12:50,366 leaves a lasting impression. 1182 01:12:50,409 --> 01:12:54,500 And I'm just suddenly very cognizant of-- 1183 01:12:55,719 --> 01:12:56,720 time. 1184 01:12:58,461 --> 01:13:01,594 I paid the dues and I paid the cause to be a Drifter. 1185 01:13:01,638 --> 01:13:05,468 And I'm so proud that we left a legacy behind. 1186 01:13:05,511 --> 01:13:08,819 I would like people to remember me as being 1187 01:13:08,862 --> 01:13:11,865 a member of one of the greatest girl groups 1188 01:13:11,909 --> 01:13:14,564 and that we influenced other girl singers. 1189 01:13:14,607 --> 01:13:17,915 What I'm really proud of is 1190 01:13:19,438 --> 01:13:23,921 I came a long ways and I met that lady over there. 1191 01:13:28,926 --> 01:13:30,710 I'm proud. 1192 01:13:30,754 --> 01:13:31,972 I never thought of quitting. 1193 01:13:33,974 --> 01:13:37,413 I never thought of quitting. I figured I was gonna be here till a hundred, 1194 01:13:37,456 --> 01:13:38,849 so I might as well to keep on moving. 1195 01:13:40,198 --> 01:13:42,113 And that's what I've been doing ever since. 1196 01:13:43,114 --> 01:13:47,161 I've been so blessed to be able to sing this wonderful music. 1197 01:13:47,205 --> 01:13:52,036 It's hard to believe that I got to really spend my whole life making up songs 1198 01:13:52,079 --> 01:13:56,910 and going into studio and having that great fun producing records 1199 01:13:56,954 --> 01:14:00,131 and working with great talent. I really got away with it. 1200 01:14:00,740 --> 01:14:06,572 Oh, we was in love with what we was doing and we had a lot of love for each other. 1201 01:14:19,237 --> 01:14:23,154 I see in that short period of time accomplishment. 1202 01:14:24,503 --> 01:14:26,766 [Billy] If I had to do it all over again, I would. 1203 01:14:26,810 --> 01:14:29,508 I wouldn't change a thing. I just would like to go back 1204 01:14:29,552 --> 01:14:31,205 and-- and do what we did. 1205 01:14:31,249 --> 01:14:35,166 If you're lucky enough to last this long-- can you believe it? 1206 01:14:35,209 --> 01:14:39,692 To last this long and live this long and still be able to sing 1207 01:14:40,911 --> 01:14:43,653 and have a band that can play the music which it's-- 1208 01:14:43,696 --> 01:14:46,046 it's all pretty extraordinary when I think about it. 1209 01:14:46,090 --> 01:14:51,182 It was an opportunity of a lifetime that a lot of people will never know. 1210 01:14:51,225 --> 01:14:54,228 I felt really blessed to have been a part of that. 1211 01:14:55,534 --> 01:14:57,797 -[interviewer] You were there. -I was there, man. 1212 01:14:57,841 --> 01:15:01,845 You talk about camaraderie, we-- we had the time of our lives. 1213 01:15:01,888 --> 01:15:05,065 We were brothers and sisters of the same large. 1214 01:15:05,109 --> 01:15:09,896 When I say I had the time of my life, I truly had the time of my life. 1215 01:15:17,208 --> 01:15:20,603 [La La] When we were growing up in Brooklyn, you sang on the stoops. 1216 01:15:20,646 --> 01:15:23,214 That's where we started from singing on the stoops. 1217 01:15:23,257 --> 01:15:27,218 The first song I recorded with The Crystals was "Uptown." I was a kid. 1218 01:15:29,916 --> 01:15:32,702 -Is that a working mic there? -It does work. 1219 01:15:34,834 --> 01:15:39,012 I started working with Charlie when I was like thirteen or fourteen years old on tours. 1220 01:15:42,581 --> 01:15:46,759 We did the amateur show. That's how I first came in touch, 1221 01:15:46,803 --> 01:15:49,588 really-- really up with the stage at Apollo. 1222 01:15:49,632 --> 01:15:55,942 Me, Ben E. King, Al Berof, Doc Green, and lover palace 1223 01:15:55,986 --> 01:15:57,857 and we tore the audience up. 1224 01:16:01,208 --> 01:16:03,689 That's why I started from singing on the street corner. 1225 01:16:03,733 --> 01:16:06,562 Yeah, we started singing on the stoop and we battle each other, right? 1226 01:16:06,605 --> 01:16:08,825 You give me a pint of wine I will sing anything with you. 1227 01:16:10,653 --> 01:16:13,046 -You know I love you, right? -Yeah, we're good. 1228 01:16:14,961 --> 01:16:19,792 Thank you, baby. This guy has known me since I was fourteen. 1229 01:16:19,836 --> 01:16:23,840 I used to take his money. I used to hold his-- I used to hold his money for him. 1230 01:16:23,883 --> 01:16:26,625 He used to gamble on the bus. He used to always win, 1231 01:16:26,669 --> 01:16:28,671 but sometimes after a while he started losing. 1232 01:16:28,714 --> 01:16:30,324 Losing a lot of money. 1233 01:16:30,368 --> 01:16:34,590 So, he said to me, "What I want you to do is take this money 1234 01:16:34,633 --> 01:16:37,593 and whatever I ask you for it, do not give it to me. 1235 01:16:37,636 --> 01:16:39,899 In a few hours of gambling, 1236 01:16:39,943 --> 01:16:43,120 he came back, "Could you give me some money?" I said, "No." 1237 01:16:44,948 --> 01:16:46,732 I didn't give it to him for about a day or so. 1238 01:16:46,776 --> 01:16:48,691 He was mad at me. He was pissed with me. 1239 01:16:49,300 --> 01:16:50,301 My money. 1240 01:16:53,304 --> 01:16:56,742 You know, when you get backstage and there were six or seven groups out there working, 1241 01:16:56,786 --> 01:16:58,788 you get time to spend amongst each other 1242 01:16:58,831 --> 01:17:01,355 and there's nothing better than that. This is a family. 1243 01:17:01,399 --> 01:17:04,837 -Oh, my God, it's VD. -Ow, VD! 1244 01:17:04,881 --> 01:17:06,926 -Oh, my God! -We gotta say goodbye 1245 01:17:06,970 --> 01:17:12,715 He nicknamed me VD, you know. And when Hurricane Sandy hit, 1246 01:17:12,758 --> 01:17:15,761 first phone call I got was from Charlie. 1247 01:17:15,805 --> 01:17:19,678 He said, "VD, you all right? I see Staten Island, they got hit hard, you know." 1248 01:17:19,722 --> 01:17:22,333 I don't know how many friends I've got. Hundreds, thousands. I don't know, 1249 01:17:22,376 --> 01:17:26,032 but that was the first call I got. I'll never forget it. 1250 01:17:26,076 --> 01:17:28,121 -Hello everybody. -[all] Hello. 1251 01:17:28,165 --> 01:17:29,645 -Hi. -How are you doing? 1252 01:17:29,688 --> 01:17:31,647 -We're Straight No Chaser, man. -All right, beautiful. 1253 01:17:31,690 --> 01:17:33,170 -How you doing guys? -Pleasure. 1254 01:17:33,213 --> 01:17:35,172 They're beautiful, they're beautiful, man. 1255 01:17:35,215 --> 01:17:37,261 We're were just a bunch of guys that went to Indiana University together. 1256 01:17:37,304 --> 01:17:39,742 Well that's sort of the beauty of our story. 1257 01:17:39,785 --> 01:17:42,701 We didn't anticipate that this was going to go any further than college. 1258 01:17:42,745 --> 01:17:44,877 -[man] Nice to meet you. -[La La] Same here. 1259 01:17:44,921 --> 01:17:49,142 So many guys. You guys could all be models. My God! 1260 01:17:49,186 --> 01:17:51,797 Of course, I listened to doo-wop growing up, but I never thought 1261 01:17:51,841 --> 01:17:53,886 that I would come into college, join a group 1262 01:17:53,930 --> 01:17:56,019 that I would be still doing twenty years later. 1263 01:17:56,062 --> 01:17:58,717 [La La] These guys here got the real deal and which is good they're young. 1264 01:17:58,761 --> 01:18:00,850 They got good harmony, you-- you know. 1265 01:18:00,893 --> 01:18:04,070 -Very good harmony. Very good. -They got beautiful harmony and they've been there 1266 01:18:04,114 --> 01:18:06,116 into the rhythm and blues feel too 1267 01:18:06,159 --> 01:18:10,337 just like we are. And they love just a song. So, I'm happy about that. 1268 01:18:10,381 --> 01:18:13,079 One, two, three, and-- 1269 01:18:21,218 --> 01:18:24,177 Doing Ben E. King's song today and his music, 1270 01:18:24,221 --> 01:18:29,748 it's like, I wish that I would have said more things to him, you know. 1271 01:18:29,792 --> 01:18:32,708 -I feel Ben E. King in every word. -Oh, my god! 1272 01:18:32,751 --> 01:18:37,016 In every word that was my friend. I feel Ben E. King in every-- every word. 1273 01:18:37,060 --> 01:18:38,888 -Wishing he was here. -Mmm-hm. 1274 01:18:38,931 --> 01:18:40,193 Just wishing he was here. 1275 01:18:48,898 --> 01:18:52,728 This is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to be able to sing with some of the Greats. 1276 01:18:52,771 --> 01:18:55,774 This is your moment. This is your moment. 1277 01:18:55,818 --> 01:18:58,342 And to hear their stories and to be able to sing along with them. 1278 01:18:58,385 --> 01:19:02,041 This is so fun. I'm just like a kid-- a kid in the candy store right now. 1279 01:19:02,085 --> 01:19:03,434 I'm in FAO Schwarz. 1280 01:19:05,088 --> 01:19:06,567 And I hope they'll, you know, enjoy singing with us as well. 1281 01:19:06,611 --> 01:19:09,135 So it's gonna be fun. We're excited, fingers crossed. 1282 01:19:10,093 --> 01:19:12,008 -[Charlie] I love you Laila. -I love you too. 1283 01:19:12,051 --> 01:19:16,099 ♪ So, darling, darling Stand by me♪ 1284 01:19:16,142 --> 01:19:18,057 It's perfect. Let's record it. 1285 01:19:29,460 --> 01:19:31,505 "Stand by me", Ben E. King. 1286 01:19:37,294 --> 01:19:40,950 ♪ When the night has come♪ 1287 01:19:43,082 --> 01:19:45,868 ♪ And the land is dark♪ 1288 01:19:45,911 --> 01:19:51,482 ♪ And the moon Is the only light we'll see♪ 1289 01:19:54,093 --> 01:19:57,444 ♪ No, I won't be afraid♪ 1290 01:19:57,488 --> 01:20:01,448 ♪ No, I won't be afraid♪ 1291 01:20:02,319 --> 01:20:08,194 ♪ Just as long as you stand Stand by me♪ 1292 01:20:09,065 --> 01:20:14,287 ♪ So, darling, darling Stand by me♪ 1293 01:20:14,331 --> 01:20:18,509 ♪ Oh, stand by me♪ 1294 01:20:19,162 --> 01:20:25,298 ♪ Oh, stand by me♪ 1295 01:20:27,518 --> 01:20:31,478 ♪ If the sky That we look upon♪ 1296 01:20:31,522 --> 01:20:35,178 ♪ Oh, should tumble and fall♪ 1297 01:20:36,005 --> 01:20:41,924 ♪ Or the mountain Should crumble to the sea♪ 1298 01:20:41,967 --> 01:20:43,621 ♪ Lord, have mercy♪ 1299 01:20:44,361 --> 01:20:47,538 ♪ I won't cry, I won't cry♪ 1300 01:20:47,581 --> 01:20:52,195 ♪ No, I won't shed a tear♪ 1301 01:20:52,238 --> 01:20:58,549 ♪ Just as long as you stand You stand by me♪ 1302 01:20:59,637 --> 01:21:04,337 ♪ And darling, darling Stand by me♪ 1303 01:21:04,381 --> 01:21:08,428 ♪ Oh, stand by me♪ 1304 01:21:08,472 --> 01:21:13,477 ♪ Stand by me Stand by me, baby♪ 1305 01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:15,261 ♪ Stand by me♪ 1306 01:21:16,262 --> 01:21:21,441 ♪ So, darling, darling Stand by me♪ 1307 01:21:21,485 --> 01:21:25,228 ♪ Oh, stand by me♪ 1308 01:21:25,271 --> 01:21:29,972 ♪ Oh, I want you to stand Come on and stand♪ 1309 01:21:30,015 --> 01:21:32,975 ♪ Stand by me♪ 1310 01:21:33,018 --> 01:21:38,197 ♪ Whenever you're in trouble Won't you stand by me♪ 1311 01:21:38,241 --> 01:21:41,374 ♪ I want you to stand Stant by me♪ 1312 01:21:41,418 --> 01:21:46,989 ♪ Come on and stand Stand by me, baby♪ 1313 01:21:47,032 --> 01:21:50,035 ♪ Stand by me♪ 1314 01:21:50,079 --> 01:21:54,039 ♪ Oh, oh, stand by me♪ 1315 01:21:54,083 --> 01:21:57,956 ♪ Oh, I want you to stand Stand by me♪ 1316 01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:01,307 ♪ Come on, come on Come on and stand♪ 1317 01:22:01,351 --> 01:22:03,396 ♪ Stand by me baby♪ 1318 01:22:03,440 --> 01:22:05,964 ♪ Stand by me♪ 1319 01:22:06,008 --> 01:22:08,227 ♪ One more time Let's sing it♪ 1320 01:22:08,271 --> 01:22:11,578 ♪ Stand by me Come on, come on♪ 1321 01:22:11,622 --> 01:22:14,320 ♪ Come on and stand♪ 1322 01:22:14,364 --> 01:22:18,194 ♪ Come on and stand♪ 1323 01:22:18,237 --> 01:22:22,589 ♪ Stand by--♪ 1324 01:22:22,633 --> 01:22:27,029 ♪ Ah, girl♪ 1325 01:22:27,072 --> 01:22:30,989 ♪ Won't you stand by me♪ 1326 01:22:31,033 --> 01:22:37,430 ♪ Me♪ 1327 01:22:38,127 --> 01:22:44,307 -[singer] Yeah. Yes, that's the take right there. -[Charlie] Beautiful. 1328 01:22:45,656 --> 01:22:49,442 -[La La] You guys sound so good. -[Charlie] Thanks gentlemen. Thanks so much. 1329 01:22:50,095 --> 01:22:52,184 -[man] I hear that. -[Charlie] Thank you. God bless you 1330 01:22:52,228 --> 01:22:54,273 and I hope it turn out to be something. 1331 01:22:54,317 --> 01:22:56,275 [Jerry] So, there you have it, ladies and gentlemen, 1332 01:22:56,319 --> 01:22:58,103 Streetlight Harmonies, 1333 01:22:58,147 --> 01:22:59,670 the story of the music, 1334 01:22:59,713 --> 01:23:02,064 the love, the devotion, and the memories 1335 01:23:02,107 --> 01:23:04,022 from all of these wonderful artists 1336 01:23:04,066 --> 01:23:06,982 who made our lives a little more enjoyable. 1337 01:23:07,025 --> 01:23:10,202 As all good things must come to an end so must this show, 1338 01:23:10,246 --> 01:23:13,292 but remember as the Geator says "You got to keep on rocking 1339 01:23:13,336 --> 01:23:16,295 cause you really only do, rock once." 121290

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