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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:23,414 --> 00:00:25,764 ♪ I am ♪ 2 00:00:25,808 --> 00:00:31,031 ♪ Making my way ♪ 3 00:00:32,075 --> 00:00:35,513 ♪ Through this dark ♪ 4 00:00:35,557 --> 00:00:42,129 ♪ And troubled world ♪ 5 00:00:42,955 --> 00:00:47,264 ♪ I am making my way ♪ 6 00:00:47,308 --> 00:00:52,313 ♪ To the glory ♪ 7 00:00:52,356 --> 00:00:56,143 ♪ You foretold ♪ 8 00:00:56,186 --> 00:00:57,666 ♪ The glory... ♪ 9 00:00:57,709 --> 00:00:59,972 My name is David Oyelowo. 10 00:01:00,016 --> 00:01:03,802 I am an actor and the son of Victoria Nwakaego Oyelowo 11 00:01:03,846 --> 00:01:06,109 and Stephen Oyelakin Oyelowo. 12 00:01:06,153 --> 00:01:10,113 Oyelowo, or as in its proper Yoruba pronunciation, 13 00:01:10,157 --> 00:01:14,378 "O-ye-lowo," means "a king deserves respect." 14 00:01:14,422 --> 00:01:17,164 In 2014, I was blessed with the opportunity 15 00:01:17,207 --> 00:01:19,818 to play the most influential civil rights leader 16 00:01:19,862 --> 00:01:23,779 of the 20th century, Dr. Martin Luther King. 17 00:01:24,562 --> 00:01:27,739 Early on in my journey towards playing Dr. King, 18 00:01:27,783 --> 00:01:29,306 my wife asked if she could document 19 00:01:29,350 --> 00:01:32,309 the highs and lows of what lay ahead. 20 00:01:32,353 --> 00:01:34,920 Let me be clear. 21 00:01:34,964 --> 00:01:37,836 My process as an actor being followed 22 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,143 was very uncomfortable for me. 23 00:01:41,057 --> 00:01:44,452 But I reluctantly agreed. 24 00:01:44,495 --> 00:01:46,193 And this is the story 25 00:01:46,236 --> 00:01:49,979 of the most wonderful, horrible, turbulent 26 00:01:50,022 --> 00:01:53,983 and terrific chapter of my life. 27 00:02:04,428 --> 00:02:08,606 ♪ Yes, I know I was born to reign...♪ 28 00:02:10,913 --> 00:02:13,698 Hi! 29 00:02:15,526 --> 00:02:16,875 I mean, look at those ki-- 30 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,319 ♪ I was born to reign with the music ♪ 31 00:02:26,929 --> 00:02:28,626 ♪ That I play, and I'll shine...♪ 32 00:02:31,977 --> 00:02:34,763 ♪ Yes, I know... ♪ 33 00:02:35,938 --> 00:02:37,896 There's another gate there, baby. 34 00:02:37,940 --> 00:02:41,726 I remember us living in 35 00:02:41,770 --> 00:02:46,818 a one-bedroom situation whereby we all slept in the same room. 36 00:02:47,645 --> 00:02:51,606 It was a compound, basically, for lower-income families. 37 00:02:53,303 --> 00:02:57,264 My dad, being from a Nigerian royal family, has pride 38 00:02:57,307 --> 00:03:00,919 in the best sense and didn't want to sponge off anyone. 39 00:03:00,963 --> 00:03:03,792 We went it alone. 40 00:03:19,982 --> 00:03:22,376 This room here? 41 00:03:36,912 --> 00:03:40,176 This is where we had showers. 42 00:03:42,134 --> 00:03:45,877 We had communal toilets, communal kitchen. 43 00:03:45,921 --> 00:03:47,270 It was a compound. 44 00:03:47,314 --> 00:03:49,446 Honestly, it's not until coming back 45 00:03:49,490 --> 00:03:51,405 and just seeing it just now. 46 00:03:56,627 --> 00:04:00,457 I've just never, ever thought of... 47 00:04:00,501 --> 00:04:02,851 us ever being poor. 48 00:04:08,596 --> 00:04:12,600 All their money went into our private education. 49 00:04:12,643 --> 00:04:15,820 So I went to school with some of the most 50 00:04:15,864 --> 00:04:18,170 wealthy people in Nigeria. 51 00:04:18,214 --> 00:04:21,173 But we lived a very frugal life 52 00:04:21,217 --> 00:04:24,046 because all their money went into our education. 53 00:04:25,308 --> 00:04:28,442 - That was here? - It was here. 54 00:04:45,328 --> 00:04:47,417 My dad always carried himself 55 00:04:47,461 --> 00:04:48,897 like a king. My mum, 56 00:04:48,940 --> 00:04:52,596 there's not really a word to talk about how... 57 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,642 how my mum carries herself. 58 00:04:54,685 --> 00:04:57,427 "Queen" is too small. 59 00:05:44,518 --> 00:05:47,347 Get my coat now. 60 00:05:47,390 --> 00:05:49,305 All right. 61 00:05:51,002 --> 00:05:55,355 - Hi, Daddy. - Hello, Jessie. 62 00:05:55,398 --> 00:05:57,531 - Talk to me about David. - Oh. 63 00:05:57,574 --> 00:06:00,664 - When you... - Where do I start? 64 00:06:00,708 --> 00:06:02,536 How you got his name. 65 00:06:02,579 --> 00:06:04,581 Okay, okay. Yes. 66 00:06:04,625 --> 00:06:07,410 In a dream, I just saw... 67 00:06:07,454 --> 00:06:09,369 I saw my dad. 68 00:06:09,412 --> 00:06:16,245 And said, "Oh, we are expecting this baby. 69 00:06:16,288 --> 00:06:20,771 What name do you want to give us?" 70 00:06:20,815 --> 00:06:24,035 He said, "Call him David." 71 00:06:24,079 --> 00:06:27,778 And what that means to me is 72 00:06:27,822 --> 00:06:33,044 to do with David and Goliath. 73 00:06:34,829 --> 00:06:37,179 No matter what, how big, 74 00:06:37,222 --> 00:06:43,925 whatever effort anybody want to play to destroy me... 75 00:06:45,143 --> 00:06:47,972 ...I will overcome. 76 00:06:48,016 --> 00:06:51,019 And that is my own David. 77 00:06:55,545 --> 00:06:57,895 In 1989, my mum, brothers and I 78 00:06:57,939 --> 00:07:00,724 moved away from an increasingly difficult political landscape 79 00:07:00,768 --> 00:07:04,249 in Nigeria, back to my country of birth, England. 80 00:07:04,293 --> 00:07:06,730 My dad had to finish up his work contract in Nigeria 81 00:07:06,774 --> 00:07:08,993 for a further four years. 82 00:07:09,037 --> 00:07:11,996 We went from close-knit to being apart 83 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:13,824 while living in a homeless hostel. 84 00:07:13,868 --> 00:07:17,872 But I discovered something new in London: acting. 85 00:07:20,962 --> 00:07:22,877 ♪ Oh, yeah ♪ 86 00:07:25,053 --> 00:07:28,143 ♪ Mm-hmm ♪ 87 00:07:28,186 --> 00:07:30,885 ♪ Oh, yeah ♪ 88 00:07:30,928 --> 00:07:32,669 ♪ I'm a good man... ♪ 89 00:07:32,713 --> 00:07:36,412 - So, when I met David, he was 14. - Okay. 90 00:07:36,456 --> 00:07:40,198 And I'd set up a youth theater here at the National. 91 00:07:40,242 --> 00:07:42,462 There were about 30 students in it. 92 00:07:42,505 --> 00:07:45,856 And one of the girls said, "Would it be all right 93 00:07:45,900 --> 00:07:47,336 to bring a friend along?" 94 00:07:47,379 --> 00:07:50,426 And I said, "Well, yes, let's have a look." 95 00:07:50,470 --> 00:07:52,646 And she brought David, and I think 96 00:07:52,689 --> 00:07:55,562 David had no idea what he was letting himself in for. 97 00:07:55,605 --> 00:07:58,565 I don't think he had it in his mind at all. 98 00:07:58,608 --> 00:08:01,481 And it was really evident from the go 99 00:08:01,524 --> 00:08:05,354 that even though he'd had no drama experience, 100 00:08:05,397 --> 00:08:07,530 that I knew of-- very limited-- 101 00:08:07,574 --> 00:08:10,098 that he was leading man material. 102 00:08:11,447 --> 00:08:13,231 I ran into him, 103 00:08:13,275 --> 00:08:15,103 and he was telling me what he was doing 104 00:08:15,146 --> 00:08:17,888 and how he was planning to go to law school. 105 00:08:17,932 --> 00:08:20,238 'Cause he wanted to become a lawyer, 106 00:08:20,282 --> 00:08:22,589 and his father was keen that he become a lawyer. 107 00:08:22,632 --> 00:08:25,940 And I said, "Have you thought ever about acting?" 108 00:08:25,983 --> 00:08:28,725 And he said, "No, how would I do it?" 109 00:08:28,769 --> 00:08:32,337 And we talked and I realized he was actually interested. 110 00:08:32,381 --> 00:08:35,427 Telling stories and acting was my newfound love. 111 00:08:35,471 --> 00:08:38,343 Gill helped me apply to drama schools, 112 00:08:38,387 --> 00:08:40,694 and much to my dad's disappointment, I got in. 113 00:08:40,737 --> 00:08:42,260 Right before I started, 114 00:08:42,304 --> 00:08:43,740 I joined the National Youth Music Theatre, 115 00:08:43,784 --> 00:08:46,700 where I honed my craft and met my future wife. 116 00:08:46,743 --> 00:08:50,268 Jess was 17, I was 18. We became friends. 117 00:08:50,312 --> 00:08:52,662 And when I realized a future without her in it 118 00:08:52,706 --> 00:08:54,142 was unthinkable, 119 00:08:54,185 --> 00:08:57,232 three years after we met, we got married. 120 00:08:58,581 --> 00:09:02,019 I had done the plays and I had done youth theater 121 00:09:02,063 --> 00:09:04,021 with Jessie. And acting-- 122 00:09:04,065 --> 00:09:06,067 they inhabited the same space for me. 123 00:09:06,110 --> 00:09:07,938 Those were the things I loved to do. 124 00:09:07,982 --> 00:09:11,115 And I wanted to see if I could 125 00:09:11,159 --> 00:09:13,727 make my passion my profession. 126 00:09:13,770 --> 00:09:16,643 An actor. Ah. 127 00:09:16,686 --> 00:09:19,950 "Actor? No, not an actor." 128 00:09:19,994 --> 00:09:25,565 Sincerely, I knew that it may be difficult for him. 129 00:09:25,608 --> 00:09:31,005 Difficult for him because this is a white man's country. 130 00:09:34,051 --> 00:09:35,792 From the get-go, 131 00:09:35,836 --> 00:09:38,490 he said, "I want to be put up for work 132 00:09:38,534 --> 00:09:41,319 that is not ethnically specific. 133 00:09:41,363 --> 00:09:42,756 I want to do everything." 134 00:09:42,799 --> 00:09:45,323 If they perceive dissension in our looks 135 00:09:45,367 --> 00:09:47,151 and that within ourselves... 136 00:09:47,195 --> 00:09:49,676 He had a massive quantum leap 137 00:09:49,719 --> 00:09:52,026 that I can't take any credit for. 138 00:09:52,853 --> 00:09:54,985 He was cast as Henry VI. 139 00:09:55,029 --> 00:10:00,600 He became the first Black actor to play a royal part at the RSC. 140 00:10:01,426 --> 00:10:04,647 So, what was it that you saw in David 141 00:10:04,691 --> 00:10:06,997 that made you think, "Oh, he could play a king"? 142 00:10:07,781 --> 00:10:11,349 There was a class, there was a, a confidence 143 00:10:11,393 --> 00:10:14,657 about him, especially for a baby, 144 00:10:14,701 --> 00:10:17,704 working with a lot more experienced people around him. 145 00:10:18,792 --> 00:10:23,405 I didn't actually know that David was a practicing Christian 146 00:10:23,448 --> 00:10:25,320 until we were in rehearsal. 147 00:10:25,363 --> 00:10:28,149 But it was good. 148 00:10:28,192 --> 00:10:30,804 It was good because 149 00:10:30,847 --> 00:10:35,373 Henry is a figure of, yes, great vulnerability. 150 00:10:36,374 --> 00:10:40,596 Uh, in some ways, a slightly otherworldly figure. 151 00:10:41,379 --> 00:10:44,382 Certainly a man of peace 152 00:10:44,426 --> 00:10:49,736 and the most articulate man on peace and reconciliation. 153 00:10:49,779 --> 00:10:55,567 My mum would often talk about, you know, "You are going to... 154 00:10:55,611 --> 00:10:57,874 You're going to walk among kings." 155 00:10:57,918 --> 00:11:00,529 And I remember her saying that when I was very young 156 00:11:00,572 --> 00:11:02,487 and I didn't really know what it meant. 157 00:11:02,531 --> 00:11:04,533 I mean, you know, we don't have kings anymore. 158 00:11:04,576 --> 00:11:06,143 You don't walk amongst kings. 159 00:11:06,187 --> 00:11:07,579 There aren't, like, rooms full of kings 160 00:11:07,623 --> 00:11:09,930 that you just walk-- walk in and amongst. 161 00:11:09,973 --> 00:11:11,583 Um... 162 00:11:11,627 --> 00:11:16,414 But, uh, I guess it sort of made more sense as I've gotten older. 163 00:11:16,458 --> 00:11:18,721 Kings have been a theme. 164 00:11:18,765 --> 00:11:22,986 I said, "How can... 165 00:11:23,030 --> 00:11:26,773 "a Black man play 166 00:11:26,816 --> 00:11:29,036 King of England?" 167 00:11:29,863 --> 00:11:33,127 It was in Telegraph newspaper. 168 00:11:33,170 --> 00:11:36,130 There was debate and all. 169 00:11:36,173 --> 00:11:38,610 And when he did it, 170 00:11:38,654 --> 00:11:43,833 Prince Charles went to see him three times. 171 00:11:44,834 --> 00:11:46,618 An Oxford don said 172 00:11:46,662 --> 00:11:48,751 in a major newspaper in the UK 173 00:11:48,795 --> 00:11:53,103 that we open ourselves to ridicule if we allow people 174 00:11:53,147 --> 00:11:57,281 who are not white to play kings of England. 175 00:11:57,325 --> 00:11:59,675 That was the point beyond which I was like, 176 00:11:59,719 --> 00:12:03,200 "Okay. Okay. 177 00:12:03,244 --> 00:12:05,202 That's all I need to hear." 178 00:12:05,246 --> 00:12:08,728 So after nearly ten years of marriage and with two kids 179 00:12:08,771 --> 00:12:12,514 in tow, we took the scary step of leaving behind friends, 180 00:12:12,557 --> 00:12:15,473 family, and our careers in the UK 181 00:12:15,517 --> 00:12:18,738 to move our young family to Los Angeles, 182 00:12:18,781 --> 00:12:21,653 a place where I could see what I wanted to be: 183 00:12:21,697 --> 00:12:23,568 a Black man who could one day 184 00:12:23,612 --> 00:12:26,528 play leading roles in popular films. 185 00:12:27,485 --> 00:12:29,792 I get a call, my assistant says, 186 00:12:29,836 --> 00:12:31,794 "It's David Oyelowo on line one," 187 00:12:31,838 --> 00:12:34,101 and I-I don't-- I think he mispronounced his name. 188 00:12:34,144 --> 00:12:36,494 And I said, "Who's David Oyelowo?" 189 00:12:36,538 --> 00:12:39,106 He was very calm, and he said, "Hello, um, 190 00:12:39,149 --> 00:12:41,978 are you the head of the talent department at ICM?" 191 00:12:42,022 --> 00:12:43,675 And I said, "Yes." 192 00:12:43,719 --> 00:12:46,809 And he said, "Oh, good, uh, because I'm a client of ICM, 193 00:12:46,853 --> 00:12:49,507 "I've moved here from London, my whole family's here, 194 00:12:49,551 --> 00:12:51,858 "and we've been here for about six months, 195 00:12:51,901 --> 00:12:54,251 "and I haven't received one script 196 00:12:54,295 --> 00:12:56,601 "nor have I got one meeting, 197 00:12:56,645 --> 00:12:59,517 um, and I'm starting to get concerned." 198 00:12:59,561 --> 00:13:01,911 And I was like... 199 00:13:01,955 --> 00:13:06,046 And David had this kind of strong confidence of, 200 00:13:06,089 --> 00:13:08,918 "I've-- I'm doing everything right. 201 00:13:08,962 --> 00:13:10,441 This is your problem." 202 00:13:10,485 --> 00:13:12,661 He was basically saying, "Can you help me?" 203 00:13:12,704 --> 00:13:15,795 I think one of the first things I did send him was Selma. 204 00:13:18,885 --> 00:13:21,801 And then, uh, the script, Selma, 205 00:13:21,844 --> 00:13:23,846 hit the doormat. 206 00:13:23,890 --> 00:13:28,242 And, um, I can't remember why, but we were in a time of praying 207 00:13:28,285 --> 00:13:30,592 and fasting, I think, at the church. 208 00:13:30,635 --> 00:13:31,898 Something like that. 209 00:13:31,941 --> 00:13:33,987 I just remember being very hungry, 210 00:13:34,030 --> 00:13:36,990 uh, while I read the script. 211 00:13:37,033 --> 00:13:39,470 And, um... 212 00:13:39,514 --> 00:13:43,866 on the 24th of July, 2007, I felt God say, 213 00:13:43,910 --> 00:13:47,652 "You are going to play Dr. King in Selma." 214 00:13:47,696 --> 00:13:51,656 And on that day, I wrote it as an entry in a new diary 215 00:13:51,700 --> 00:13:53,006 because it was so bizarre 216 00:13:53,049 --> 00:13:55,312 and I just wanted to see how this played out. 217 00:13:55,356 --> 00:13:59,316 This is the diary in which I, um, 218 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:03,712 wrote on the 24th of July '07. 219 00:14:03,755 --> 00:14:07,063 It says, "I am certain in my spirit 220 00:14:07,107 --> 00:14:10,893 "that the part of Martin Luther King is mine, 221 00:14:10,937 --> 00:14:15,376 "but of course my flesh is playing tricks on me. 222 00:14:15,419 --> 00:14:19,597 "God has told me this part is mine, 223 00:14:19,641 --> 00:14:23,993 but He's also asked me what I'll do with it." 224 00:14:25,168 --> 00:14:27,475 Like many, I knew of Dr. King. 225 00:14:27,518 --> 00:14:28,955 I knew he led the fight 226 00:14:28,998 --> 00:14:30,913 for the civil rights of African Americans 227 00:14:30,957 --> 00:14:33,263 and that his work for social justice was cut short 228 00:14:33,307 --> 00:14:36,310 by his assassination in Memphis, Tennessee. 229 00:14:36,353 --> 00:14:38,703 But who was this man? 230 00:14:38,747 --> 00:14:40,618 What motivated him to fight for the cause 231 00:14:40,662 --> 00:14:42,925 he was ultimately killed for? 232 00:14:42,969 --> 00:14:46,015 A cause for which people are still dying today. 233 00:14:46,059 --> 00:14:50,106 I found myself in the grip of an obsession to know him. 234 00:14:50,150 --> 00:14:52,892 Reveal him. Honor him. 235 00:14:53,805 --> 00:14:55,677 Driven by the calling I felt, 236 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,506 I put four scenes on tape from the original Selma script 237 00:14:58,549 --> 00:15:02,379 and auditioned for the role I now felt destined to play. 238 00:15:02,423 --> 00:15:05,165 A few weeks later, the director called and said, 239 00:15:05,208 --> 00:15:08,516 "He's a good actor, but he's not King." 240 00:15:08,559 --> 00:15:11,258 His truth is marching on. 241 00:15:11,301 --> 00:15:15,479 And in all honesty, in my soul, 242 00:15:15,523 --> 00:15:18,656 I was a bit crushed, a bit embarrassed, 243 00:15:18,700 --> 00:15:21,311 but my spirit was very clear. 244 00:15:21,355 --> 00:15:22,965 First director was Stephen Frears. 245 00:15:23,009 --> 00:15:24,662 It's remarkable to think about it now, 246 00:15:24,706 --> 00:15:27,317 but it was Stephen Frears, I think Paul Haggis, 247 00:15:27,361 --> 00:15:30,320 um, then... 248 00:15:30,364 --> 00:15:32,540 Spike Lee, 249 00:15:32,583 --> 00:15:36,500 then Lee Daniels. 250 00:15:36,544 --> 00:15:40,722 In my search for King 251 00:15:40,765 --> 00:15:44,421 came, you know, the usual suspects. 252 00:15:44,465 --> 00:15:46,815 So, the day for the audition came, 253 00:15:46,858 --> 00:15:49,165 and I remember I was very nervous. 254 00:15:49,209 --> 00:15:51,994 Very, very nervous. Clammy hands, all of it. 255 00:15:52,038 --> 00:15:54,127 And, uh, I was just going through my lines. 256 00:15:54,170 --> 00:15:58,261 And you had been praying for me and you said, um, 257 00:15:58,305 --> 00:15:59,784 "Beware of distractions." 258 00:15:59,828 --> 00:16:01,525 And I said, "What does that mean?" 259 00:16:01,569 --> 00:16:03,179 "What does...? That's not... 260 00:16:03,223 --> 00:16:05,486 Let's talk about what I'm gonna do in the..." 261 00:16:05,529 --> 00:16:08,054 You just said, "Be-- no, beware of distractions." 262 00:16:08,097 --> 00:16:13,407 And I was sat in the lobby, uh, about to go up. 263 00:16:13,450 --> 00:16:15,713 I felt something... 264 00:16:17,759 --> 00:16:19,413 I don't know what it... 265 00:16:19,456 --> 00:16:22,764 I-I can't f-- I-I can't fully, um, 266 00:16:22,807 --> 00:16:24,853 articulate what it was, but I just felt, 267 00:16:24,896 --> 00:16:27,116 I f-- it was, it was like a cloak 268 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,075 sort of just being put on-- 269 00:16:29,118 --> 00:16:32,339 like, I-I felt this kind of... 270 00:16:32,382 --> 00:16:35,429 Something just descended upon me. 271 00:16:35,472 --> 00:16:38,084 And I went into this zone. 272 00:16:38,127 --> 00:16:40,782 And then I w-- got called-- I was at the Chateau Marmont 273 00:16:40,825 --> 00:16:46,527 here in L.A., and I got called to go for my audition. 274 00:16:46,570 --> 00:16:50,705 I walked in the room and Lee said, "What, 275 00:16:50,748 --> 00:16:52,098 what have you been doing?" 276 00:16:52,141 --> 00:16:56,058 I said, "I don't know. What do you mean?" 277 00:16:56,102 --> 00:16:59,279 He said, "Well, Dr. King just walked in the room." 278 00:16:59,322 --> 00:17:01,759 I remember opening the door, 279 00:17:01,803 --> 00:17:05,198 looking at him, and saying, 280 00:17:05,241 --> 00:17:07,722 "Oh, my God, I found King. 281 00:17:07,765 --> 00:17:10,333 Yeah, I have found King." 282 00:17:10,377 --> 00:17:12,596 And I said, "Okay. 283 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,816 Just keep doing whatever you're doing." 284 00:17:14,859 --> 00:17:16,209 I turned to my sister who's casting, I said, 285 00:17:16,252 --> 00:17:18,776 "Is he casting a spell on me or something?" 286 00:17:18,820 --> 00:17:20,952 He's-- what's going on? 287 00:17:20,996 --> 00:17:23,564 I can't describe what it was. 288 00:17:23,607 --> 00:17:26,262 I still can't describe what it was. 289 00:17:26,306 --> 00:17:29,613 I said, "Well, let's tape this, shall we? Let's audition." 290 00:17:29,657 --> 00:17:31,615 We prayed first, and it was the first time 291 00:17:31,659 --> 00:17:35,793 in all of my adult career 292 00:17:35,837 --> 00:17:40,842 that I was praying in an audition. 293 00:17:40,885 --> 00:17:43,714 I whispered to my sister, "Either he is sent from God 294 00:17:43,758 --> 00:17:47,501 or he's the biggest con that I've ever met." 295 00:17:47,544 --> 00:17:49,633 And, um, so I sat down, 296 00:17:49,677 --> 00:17:52,810 and then he said to... 297 00:17:52,854 --> 00:17:55,117 his sister Leah, who's also his casting director, 298 00:17:55,161 --> 00:17:58,990 "Okay, let's set up the camera so David can do his audition," 299 00:17:59,034 --> 00:18:03,125 and Leah said, "Uh... camera? 300 00:18:03,169 --> 00:18:04,779 "I thought this was just a general. 301 00:18:04,822 --> 00:18:06,650 I didn't know you were actually gonna..." 302 00:18:06,694 --> 00:18:09,871 And Lee went, "David, I'm so sorry. 303 00:18:09,914 --> 00:18:11,873 Ghetto Productions. Leah." 304 00:18:11,916 --> 00:18:13,875 And, you know, they went into this whole... 305 00:18:13,918 --> 00:18:15,529 brother and sister routine, 306 00:18:15,572 --> 00:18:18,358 and she went, "I have a Flip. I have a Flip in my bag." 307 00:18:18,401 --> 00:18:19,881 Lee was like, "What's a Flip? 308 00:18:19,924 --> 00:18:21,622 What are you talking about a Flip? I need a camera." 309 00:18:21,665 --> 00:18:23,406 And-and she goes, "No, it is a camera." 310 00:18:23,450 --> 00:18:25,582 But I-- and I remember that during the audition, 311 00:18:25,626 --> 00:18:29,020 the phone was ringing and s-- people was answering the door 312 00:18:29,064 --> 00:18:31,153 and it was just quite a debacle. 313 00:18:31,197 --> 00:18:32,937 But I just kept on hearing your words, 314 00:18:32,981 --> 00:18:34,939 "Beware of distractions, beware of distractions." 315 00:18:34,983 --> 00:18:36,854 And even though it had, it had confused me, 316 00:18:36,898 --> 00:18:42,686 just hearing it meant I wasn't thrown in a way of... 317 00:18:42,730 --> 00:18:44,862 "This is going badly." 318 00:18:44,906 --> 00:18:48,344 It was a disaster, basically, in terms of distractions, 319 00:18:48,388 --> 00:18:51,042 but I never broke. 320 00:18:51,086 --> 00:18:53,175 And I felt sort of bad for him, but he stayed-- 321 00:18:53,219 --> 00:18:56,091 he was in the pocket, he stayed in the pocket, 322 00:18:56,135 --> 00:18:57,919 and I was impressed with that. 323 00:18:57,962 --> 00:19:01,096 I subsequently found out 324 00:19:01,140 --> 00:19:03,620 that that was one of the things that got me the part. 325 00:19:03,664 --> 00:19:06,754 I-- my spirit said, "This is King." 326 00:19:06,797 --> 00:19:10,932 David effectively came on board with Lee Daniels, 327 00:19:10,975 --> 00:19:15,415 and David was very assiduous and obsessive about this role. 328 00:19:15,458 --> 00:19:18,722 So every time he would come to London from L.A., 329 00:19:18,766 --> 00:19:21,116 whenever he was passing through town, he would come and see me, 330 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,467 to find out where we were, what my budget level was, 331 00:19:24,511 --> 00:19:27,731 what the demands were for other cast members, et cetera. 332 00:19:27,775 --> 00:19:29,733 "Are we gonna go, are we not gonna go? 333 00:19:29,777 --> 00:19:31,387 Are we gonna go, are we not gonna go?" 334 00:19:31,431 --> 00:19:33,302 Liam Neeson's gonna do it, Robert De Niro's gonna do it, 335 00:19:33,346 --> 00:19:36,044 Joaquin Phoenix is gonna do it, Renée Zellweger's gonna do it. 336 00:19:36,087 --> 00:19:37,915 Ray Winstone's gonna do it. 337 00:19:37,959 --> 00:19:41,310 Uh, you know, but-but can-can we get the money? 338 00:19:41,354 --> 00:19:43,573 All I'm thinking the whole time is, "Guys, 339 00:19:43,617 --> 00:19:45,314 "I'm the little guy in this. 340 00:19:45,358 --> 00:19:50,145 I'm the no-name actor who just got given this opportunity." 341 00:19:50,189 --> 00:19:53,757 The looming cloud was always budget. 342 00:19:53,801 --> 00:19:55,411 The clock was ticking. 343 00:19:55,455 --> 00:19:59,328 And it felt like the beginning of an amazing journey 344 00:19:59,372 --> 00:20:03,941 towards playing it, with Lee Daniels as director. 345 00:20:03,985 --> 00:20:06,379 I first auditioned for Selma in 2007, 346 00:20:06,422 --> 00:20:11,166 but I was finally cast as Dr. King by Lee Daniels in 2010. 347 00:20:11,210 --> 00:20:12,776 I assumed the budget would be easy to raise 348 00:20:12,820 --> 00:20:14,125 and we would be shooting soon. 349 00:20:14,169 --> 00:20:15,997 After all, this was Dr. King. 350 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,261 But there were endless delays. 351 00:20:19,305 --> 00:20:21,437 While Lee was trying to get Selma off the ground, 352 00:20:21,481 --> 00:20:23,047 I was cast in four other films 353 00:20:23,091 --> 00:20:26,007 when all I really wanted to do was play MLK. 354 00:20:26,050 --> 00:20:28,096 But these films were all set against 355 00:20:28,139 --> 00:20:30,229 the civil rights history of America. 356 00:20:30,272 --> 00:20:32,100 Each of the roles gave me context and insight 357 00:20:32,143 --> 00:20:35,277 into the life and mission of Dr. King. 358 00:20:35,321 --> 00:20:38,106 Jess decided to give up working for a time to homeschool 359 00:20:38,149 --> 00:20:39,977 our now four children 360 00:20:40,021 --> 00:20:41,718 so we could all hit the road together 361 00:20:41,762 --> 00:20:43,503 while I shot these films and learned more 362 00:20:43,546 --> 00:20:44,678 about the heart of the man 363 00:20:44,721 --> 00:20:48,029 I felt destined to play. 364 00:20:48,072 --> 00:20:53,861 And God tells us, commands us, compels us, 365 00:20:53,904 --> 00:20:56,255 - to love. Amen? Amen. 366 00:20:56,298 --> 00:21:01,085 The announcement of me playing King in and of itself 367 00:21:01,129 --> 00:21:05,046 had done huge things for my career. 368 00:21:05,089 --> 00:21:08,919 I think people thought, "Wow, wow, this-- here's this guy 369 00:21:08,963 --> 00:21:12,575 who's gonna play King, quick, let's hire him," 370 00:21:12,619 --> 00:21:16,057 and that's exactly why I was-- I mean, literally why 371 00:21:16,100 --> 00:21:17,580 I was in The Help. 372 00:21:17,624 --> 00:21:19,016 Tate Taylor called me up and said, 373 00:21:19,060 --> 00:21:20,931 "I hear you're gonna be Martin Luther King. 374 00:21:20,975 --> 00:21:24,326 "I need a King type to play a preacher. 375 00:21:24,370 --> 00:21:26,328 Do you want to write a couple of sermons?" 376 00:21:26,372 --> 00:21:29,723 ♪ Victory today is mine ♪ 377 00:21:29,766 --> 00:21:31,507 ♪ O, Lord... ♪ 378 00:21:31,551 --> 00:21:34,205 Now that white people have accustomed themselves 379 00:21:34,249 --> 00:21:37,034 to seeing Negro men with guns fighting on their behalf, 380 00:21:37,078 --> 00:21:38,688 and now that they can tolerate 381 00:21:38,732 --> 00:21:40,864 Negro soldiers getting equal pay, 382 00:21:40,908 --> 00:21:43,302 maybe in a few years, they can abide the idea 383 00:21:43,345 --> 00:21:45,913 of Negro lieutenants and captains. 384 00:21:45,956 --> 00:21:49,395 In 50 years, maybe a Negro colonel. 385 00:21:49,438 --> 00:21:53,529 In 100 years, the vote. 386 00:21:53,573 --> 00:21:55,705 I remember the very first words Steven Spielberg 387 00:21:55,749 --> 00:21:57,925 ever said to me when I met him on the set of Lincoln. 388 00:21:57,968 --> 00:22:00,449 I had auditioned for him on tape. 389 00:22:00,493 --> 00:22:02,712 I walked up to Steven Spielberg and he said, 390 00:22:02,756 --> 00:22:05,367 "You're-you're gonna play King?" 391 00:22:05,411 --> 00:22:08,283 I had always felt that playing Ira Clark 392 00:22:08,327 --> 00:22:13,114 in Lincoln was, he was a preincarnate version 393 00:22:13,157 --> 00:22:16,160 of King in terms of quoting the Gettysburg Address 394 00:22:16,204 --> 00:22:17,553 to Lincoln and saying, 395 00:22:17,597 --> 00:22:19,381 "You can't just say these things and not do them." 396 00:22:19,425 --> 00:22:22,515 Effectively, I say the same thing to Lyndon Johnson. 397 00:22:22,558 --> 00:22:25,735 19 presidents later. 398 00:22:25,779 --> 00:22:28,259 Same actor. 399 00:22:28,303 --> 00:22:31,611 I don't think that's an accident. 400 00:22:31,654 --> 00:22:33,656 That we here highly resolve 401 00:22:33,700 --> 00:22:37,530 that these dead shall not have died in vain. 402 00:22:37,573 --> 00:22:39,880 That this nation, under God, 403 00:22:39,923 --> 00:22:42,752 shall have a new birth of freedom, 404 00:22:42,796 --> 00:22:44,928 and that government of the people, 405 00:22:44,972 --> 00:22:48,279 by the people, for the people, 406 00:22:48,323 --> 00:22:51,326 shall not perish from the Earth. 407 00:22:56,984 --> 00:22:59,378 A friend of mine who was a, uh, 408 00:22:59,421 --> 00:23:01,249 photographer, military photographer, 409 00:23:01,292 --> 00:23:03,251 told me the story of Red Tails. 410 00:23:03,294 --> 00:23:04,818 PILOT [over comm]: Where the hell are you, Lightning? 411 00:23:04,861 --> 00:23:07,298 I said, "This is a great idea for a movie." 412 00:23:17,961 --> 00:23:19,920 Come on, come on, come on. 413 00:23:22,183 --> 00:23:25,229 - Gotcha! - Obviously, there is a racial angle to it, 414 00:23:25,273 --> 00:23:27,275 but at the same time, I didn't want to make it about that. 415 00:23:27,318 --> 00:23:33,107 I wanted to make it about ordinary GI World War II heroes. 416 00:23:33,150 --> 00:23:35,457 I did realize at the time 417 00:23:35,501 --> 00:23:39,418 that there weren't really very many movies out there 418 00:23:39,461 --> 00:23:42,551 that were just about Black people. 419 00:23:42,595 --> 00:23:47,034 The focus was completely on Black pilots. 420 00:23:47,077 --> 00:23:48,731 To me, one of the most important parts 421 00:23:48,775 --> 00:23:51,560 of making a movie is the cast. 422 00:23:51,604 --> 00:23:53,997 David was great, 423 00:23:54,041 --> 00:23:57,784 for all his opinions. 424 00:24:01,048 --> 00:24:04,094 So then, I went to every single studio. 425 00:24:04,138 --> 00:24:06,009 Nobody would distribute it. 426 00:24:06,053 --> 00:24:08,011 And they said, "Well, no, we don't think 427 00:24:08,055 --> 00:24:09,491 there's a market there for it." 428 00:24:09,535 --> 00:24:11,101 But eventually I had to go and say, 429 00:24:11,145 --> 00:24:12,973 "Look, I'll rent the studio from you-- 430 00:24:13,016 --> 00:24:14,496 "the distribution part of the company-- 431 00:24:14,540 --> 00:24:16,063 "I'll pay you this amount of money and everything, 432 00:24:16,106 --> 00:24:17,456 I'll do everything." 433 00:24:17,499 --> 00:24:18,544 So I did. 434 00:24:18,587 --> 00:24:22,461 And, um... uh, then the movie came out, 435 00:24:22,504 --> 00:24:25,115 and it did what I wanted it to do, which is, 436 00:24:25,159 --> 00:24:26,943 you know, the guys are heroes. 437 00:24:28,336 --> 00:24:30,556 How you like that, Mr. Hitler? 438 00:24:33,559 --> 00:24:35,299 Keep in mind, we were still trying to do 439 00:24:35,343 --> 00:24:36,692 the dance with Selma, 440 00:24:36,736 --> 00:24:39,695 Selma all throughout the process. 441 00:24:39,739 --> 00:24:43,699 I began production on The Butler, 442 00:24:43,743 --> 00:24:45,527 and I put David in it because he was family. 443 00:24:47,050 --> 00:24:49,226 Get up, monkey. Get up. What is this? 444 00:24:49,270 --> 00:24:52,055 Listening to us? 445 00:24:52,099 --> 00:24:53,970 It says, "Whites only." 446 00:24:54,014 --> 00:24:56,320 The number of producer credits on The Butler 447 00:24:56,364 --> 00:24:59,062 tells you just how many places and people 448 00:24:59,106 --> 00:25:01,412 the budget had to be gathered from. 449 00:25:01,456 --> 00:25:04,503 41 producers in total. 450 00:25:04,546 --> 00:25:07,288 "Black doesn't travel" was still the excuse. 451 00:25:07,331 --> 00:25:10,291 The film was made for around $20 million. 452 00:25:10,334 --> 00:25:14,600 It made close to $200 million. 453 00:25:16,906 --> 00:25:18,429 To have played 454 00:25:18,473 --> 00:25:23,043 the sweep of civil rights from... 455 00:25:23,086 --> 00:25:28,178 1865 through to 2008. 456 00:25:28,222 --> 00:25:30,616 1865 with Lincoln, 457 00:25:30,659 --> 00:25:33,532 the '40s with Red Tails, 458 00:25:33,575 --> 00:25:35,403 um, you know, 459 00:25:35,446 --> 00:25:37,710 the '60s in The Help, 460 00:25:37,753 --> 00:25:40,321 and-and the '50s 461 00:25:40,364 --> 00:25:43,106 through to the 2000s in The Butler. 462 00:25:43,150 --> 00:25:46,545 Basically, God 463 00:25:46,588 --> 00:25:50,374 told me I was going to do this, 464 00:25:50,418 --> 00:25:53,552 then sent me to school. 465 00:25:56,511 --> 00:25:59,470 - I love you, Mama. - I love you, son. 466 00:25:59,514 --> 00:26:02,125 - I love you always. - I love you. 467 00:26:02,169 --> 00:26:03,649 I made you ham sandwiches. 468 00:26:03,692 --> 00:26:05,433 Thanks, Mama. 469 00:26:06,652 --> 00:26:10,090 I had played Oprah Winfrey's son 470 00:26:10,133 --> 00:26:11,874 in The Butler, 471 00:26:11,918 --> 00:26:13,702 and then we just became very good friends 472 00:26:13,746 --> 00:26:17,532 um, over the course of shooting The Butler, 473 00:26:17,576 --> 00:26:19,578 partly 'cause I never-- I've never-- 474 00:26:19,621 --> 00:26:21,623 Gosh, this is a weird place to admit this. 475 00:26:21,667 --> 00:26:23,494 I've never watched a full episode 476 00:26:23,538 --> 00:26:24,844 of The Oprah Winfrey Show. 477 00:26:24,887 --> 00:26:27,890 - You get a car! You get a car! 478 00:26:27,934 --> 00:26:29,283 You get a car! 479 00:26:29,326 --> 00:26:32,982 Everybody gets a car! 480 00:26:33,026 --> 00:26:35,942 Everybody gets a car! 481 00:26:40,207 --> 00:26:42,339 I remember saying to her, 482 00:26:42,383 --> 00:26:43,906 "You're kind of a big deal." 483 00:26:43,950 --> 00:26:46,692 And she said, 484 00:26:46,735 --> 00:26:48,824 "David, I can't believe-- 485 00:26:48,868 --> 00:26:50,870 "I've been doing stuff. 486 00:26:50,913 --> 00:26:53,133 I need to send you some DVDs." 487 00:26:54,830 --> 00:26:58,051 I said, "No, you don't have to send me anything. 488 00:26:58,094 --> 00:27:00,662 I-I can see, you're a big deal." 489 00:27:00,706 --> 00:27:03,186 David showed me a tape of himself 490 00:27:03,230 --> 00:27:05,362 doing the "Mountaintop" speech, 491 00:27:05,406 --> 00:27:08,409 the last speech that Dr. King gave 492 00:27:08,452 --> 00:27:10,672 before he was murdered in Memphis. 493 00:27:10,716 --> 00:27:14,154 I wouldn't have had the chance later that year in August 494 00:27:14,197 --> 00:27:16,112 of 1963 to try to tell America... 495 00:27:16,156 --> 00:27:17,548 I saw that speech. 496 00:27:17,592 --> 00:27:20,203 And it's the first time I actually noticed that, 497 00:27:20,247 --> 00:27:22,684 oh, gee, there's a resemblance there. 498 00:27:22,728 --> 00:27:27,123 He doesn't look like him, but I can find it in his face. 499 00:27:27,167 --> 00:27:31,693 And I appreciated the work 500 00:27:31,737 --> 00:27:32,868 that had gone into 501 00:27:32,912 --> 00:27:36,002 the memorization and the cadence 502 00:27:36,045 --> 00:27:38,047 and the power and strength 503 00:27:38,091 --> 00:27:42,051 of King's eloquence. 504 00:27:42,095 --> 00:27:45,707 But I could see that it was not there, 505 00:27:45,751 --> 00:27:48,884 that it was a, it was more an imitation 506 00:27:48,928 --> 00:27:50,843 than it was an embodiment. 507 00:27:50,886 --> 00:27:53,759 She said, 508 00:27:53,802 --> 00:27:58,154 "It's okay. It's good. 509 00:27:58,198 --> 00:28:00,374 But you have to go deeper." 510 00:28:09,862 --> 00:28:11,820 If you're gonna bring King to life, 511 00:28:11,864 --> 00:28:13,822 then you have to enter the life of King. 512 00:28:13,866 --> 00:28:17,826 And I really tested our friendship in that moment 513 00:28:17,870 --> 00:28:19,828 by saying to him, eh, I'm gonna tell you what 514 00:28:19,872 --> 00:28:22,439 I really think, and not what I know 515 00:28:22,483 --> 00:28:24,659 everybody who sees this tape says. 516 00:28:24,703 --> 00:28:27,749 Because the obvious reaction is, "Oh, my God, that's so great. 517 00:28:27,793 --> 00:28:29,751 Oh, my God, you look like King, you sound like King." 518 00:28:29,795 --> 00:28:32,754 I could not help but think at that moment 519 00:28:32,798 --> 00:28:36,627 about the fact that I was receiving an award 520 00:28:36,671 --> 00:28:39,761 for something that had not yet been achieved 521 00:28:39,805 --> 00:28:41,894 in the United States and in the world. 522 00:28:41,937 --> 00:28:45,985 "Um, I'm gonna tell you that I think you need to go in, 523 00:28:46,028 --> 00:28:47,377 and you need to go deeper." 524 00:28:47,421 --> 00:28:48,814 And I loved that. 525 00:28:48,857 --> 00:28:50,772 I loved the fact that she didn't say 526 00:28:50,816 --> 00:28:52,905 what a lot of other people had been saying. 527 00:28:52,948 --> 00:28:56,386 "It's great, it's amazing. You look like him." 528 00:28:56,430 --> 00:29:00,347 She, I knew, was gonna tell me the truth. 529 00:29:00,390 --> 00:29:04,307 And I said, um, 530 00:29:04,351 --> 00:29:06,919 "I know I'm gonna do this before I die." 531 00:29:08,094 --> 00:29:10,749 Even though I was receiving a Peace Prize, 532 00:29:10,792 --> 00:29:15,579 we were still having tragic bombings in Mississippi, 533 00:29:15,623 --> 00:29:17,799 and murders in Mississippi and Alabama and Georgia 534 00:29:17,843 --> 00:29:19,670 and other places. 535 00:29:19,714 --> 00:29:23,413 What murdered these little girls? 536 00:29:23,457 --> 00:29:26,721 Every Negro who refuses to go down 537 00:29:26,765 --> 00:29:30,290 to try to register and vote participated in that act. 538 00:29:37,036 --> 00:29:40,996 What murdered these four girls? 539 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,652 The apathy and the complacency of many Negroes 540 00:29:44,695 --> 00:29:48,482 who will sit down on their stools of "do nothing," 541 00:29:48,525 --> 00:29:51,093 and not engage in creative protest 542 00:29:51,137 --> 00:29:53,139 to get rid of this evil system. 543 00:29:54,401 --> 00:29:56,969 This evil system. 544 00:29:57,012 --> 00:29:58,797 This evil system. 545 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,061 I felt about David playing King 546 00:30:02,104 --> 00:30:06,282 the same as I felt about Obama becoming president. 547 00:30:06,326 --> 00:30:08,458 When David then shared with me 548 00:30:08,502 --> 00:30:11,766 that on July 24, 2007, 549 00:30:11,810 --> 00:30:15,857 he literally heard that thing speak to him and say, 550 00:30:15,901 --> 00:30:18,773 "You're going to do this," I knew that it was destiny. 551 00:30:20,340 --> 00:30:22,951 What are you going to do with-with Selma? 552 00:30:26,389 --> 00:30:29,871 He knew the answer. He knew the answer. 553 00:30:30,959 --> 00:30:32,874 He knew the answer. 554 00:30:32,918 --> 00:30:36,660 I heeded the advice and sought to go deeper. 555 00:30:36,704 --> 00:30:39,141 I found and talked to contemporaries of Dr. King, 556 00:30:39,185 --> 00:30:41,274 tried to gain a deeper understanding 557 00:30:41,317 --> 00:30:43,058 of how his faith motivated him 558 00:30:43,102 --> 00:30:45,365 in his fight against racial oppression. 559 00:30:45,408 --> 00:30:49,673 I felt supernaturally guided through this process. 560 00:30:49,717 --> 00:30:52,024 I thought I was ready, and felt ready to go. 561 00:30:52,067 --> 00:30:56,985 It was the first time ever that my heart was broken in... 562 00:31:01,729 --> 00:31:05,254 That my heart was broken in-- from my work. 563 00:31:05,298 --> 00:31:08,823 Because I knew that the movie was gonna go on without me. 564 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,784 And so Lee let go of Selma. 565 00:31:15,395 --> 00:31:17,658 I couldn't let go of Selma. 566 00:31:17,701 --> 00:31:20,487 I had done a film called Rise of the Planet of the Apes, 567 00:31:20,530 --> 00:31:23,969 and I was on a plane to Vancouver 568 00:31:24,012 --> 00:31:25,796 to do reshoots for it. 569 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,975 And I sat down next to a guy who was watching a show 570 00:31:30,018 --> 00:31:33,195 called Spooks in the UK, MI5 here in America. 571 00:31:33,239 --> 00:31:35,981 And he paused it on my face, 572 00:31:36,024 --> 00:31:39,288 turned to me and said, "Is this you I'm watching 573 00:31:39,332 --> 00:31:41,334 on my iPad?" 574 00:31:41,377 --> 00:31:43,031 I said, "Yeah, that's-that's me." 575 00:31:43,075 --> 00:31:44,467 He went, "That's crazy. 576 00:31:44,511 --> 00:31:46,426 I downloaded this just a day ago." 577 00:31:46,469 --> 00:31:50,691 And he said, "You're an actor. Is it good to invest in movies?" 578 00:31:50,734 --> 00:31:53,172 I said, "Well, that's a loaded question. 579 00:31:53,215 --> 00:31:54,521 What do you mean?" 580 00:31:54,564 --> 00:31:55,478 He said, "Well, a friend of mine has just 581 00:31:55,522 --> 00:31:56,653 "asked me for $50,000 582 00:31:56,697 --> 00:31:59,439 to put into this small movie." 583 00:31:59,482 --> 00:32:00,831 I said, "Well, what is it?" 584 00:32:00,875 --> 00:32:02,094 "Well, it's called Middle of Nowhere. 585 00:32:02,137 --> 00:32:04,226 The director's called Ava DuVernay." 586 00:32:04,270 --> 00:32:08,143 I had only two weeks before seen her giving an interview 587 00:32:08,187 --> 00:32:10,667 about a film that she had done called I Will Follow," 588 00:32:10,711 --> 00:32:12,974 and been very impressed by her. 589 00:32:13,018 --> 00:32:15,629 And I said, "That rings a bell. Wow. Um, well, 590 00:32:15,672 --> 00:32:17,979 "I'll read your script 591 00:32:18,023 --> 00:32:20,939 and I'll give you my opinion." 592 00:32:20,982 --> 00:32:23,376 He sent me the script, and on the flight on the way back 593 00:32:23,419 --> 00:32:24,681 I read Middle of Nowhere. 594 00:32:24,725 --> 00:32:26,509 Blew my socks off. 595 00:32:26,553 --> 00:32:28,859 Brilliant, brilliantly written script. 596 00:32:28,903 --> 00:32:31,514 Got off the plane, called Ava. 597 00:32:31,558 --> 00:32:34,169 "My name is David Oyelowo, I read your script. 598 00:32:34,213 --> 00:32:36,998 I would love to be in it." 599 00:32:37,042 --> 00:32:40,001 She said, "Oh, my goodness, you are on my short list, 600 00:32:40,045 --> 00:32:43,004 "but I just thought you would never consider 601 00:32:43,048 --> 00:32:44,353 a film like this." 602 00:32:44,397 --> 00:32:47,008 Long story short, we did that film together. 603 00:32:47,052 --> 00:32:49,880 And it became very clear to me that this is the person 604 00:32:49,924 --> 00:32:51,926 who has to direct Selma. 605 00:32:51,970 --> 00:32:53,275 But the film we had done together 606 00:32:53,319 --> 00:32:55,234 was a $200,000 film. 607 00:32:55,277 --> 00:32:58,411 Selma was always gonna be in the region of $20 million. 608 00:32:58,454 --> 00:33:00,979 That's a tough ask. 609 00:33:01,022 --> 00:33:05,461 But I went to plan B, Pathé, the companies 610 00:33:05,505 --> 00:33:08,290 who had the rights to the film, and said, 611 00:33:08,334 --> 00:33:10,640 "I think I found our director." 612 00:33:10,684 --> 00:33:13,034 Initially, understandably, there was pushback. 613 00:33:13,078 --> 00:33:16,733 And with time and a bit of cajoling, 614 00:33:16,777 --> 00:33:19,171 maybe a little bit of emotional blackmail, 615 00:33:19,214 --> 00:33:22,391 um, they met her. 616 00:33:22,435 --> 00:33:24,219 And when you meet Ava, that's it, it's a wrap. 617 00:33:24,263 --> 00:33:27,788 You know, she's so intelligent, so bright. 618 00:33:27,831 --> 00:33:29,268 And she came on board. 619 00:33:29,311 --> 00:33:31,487 ♪ I know that God is in command...♪ 620 00:33:31,531 --> 00:33:34,403 My journey with Selma begins and ends with David. 621 00:33:34,447 --> 00:33:38,233 I wouldn't have been thinking nothing about Selma 622 00:33:38,277 --> 00:33:39,800 if it wasn't for David. 623 00:33:39,843 --> 00:33:41,410 David and I worked together on Middle of Nowhere, 624 00:33:41,454 --> 00:33:44,805 which was an independent film that I did before Selma. 625 00:33:44,848 --> 00:33:46,807 So many people in Hollywood, 626 00:33:46,850 --> 00:33:48,939 so many people in this industry, just in general, 627 00:33:48,983 --> 00:33:52,073 wait for permission to move, wait for permission to act. 628 00:33:52,117 --> 00:33:54,162 But that is not him and never has been him 629 00:33:54,206 --> 00:33:55,990 as long as I've known him. 630 00:33:56,034 --> 00:33:58,210 So when Lee Daniels, the director who had 631 00:33:58,253 --> 00:34:00,168 previously cast and stepped away from Selma, 632 00:34:00,212 --> 00:34:02,779 David found himself an actor without a director, 633 00:34:02,823 --> 00:34:04,738 an actor without a film, and so he did what 634 00:34:04,781 --> 00:34:06,783 very few actors do. 635 00:34:06,827 --> 00:34:08,568 He moved the project forward. 636 00:34:08,611 --> 00:34:11,092 There's never been a film made with Dr. King at the center 637 00:34:11,136 --> 00:34:13,181 in the 50 years since these events happened. 638 00:34:13,225 --> 00:34:15,966 Dr. King has been a tangent, an addendum. 639 00:34:16,010 --> 00:34:18,099 A supporting character to the main action 640 00:34:18,143 --> 00:34:19,709 of somebody else. 641 00:34:19,753 --> 00:34:20,971 Whoever that is, I would argue, 642 00:34:21,015 --> 00:34:22,495 is not as important as Dr. King. 643 00:34:22,538 --> 00:34:24,714 I don't know who it was, but over the years 644 00:34:24,758 --> 00:34:25,976 there have been other people 645 00:34:26,020 --> 00:34:27,456 who've been the central character. 646 00:34:27,500 --> 00:34:28,936 So you finally have, after 50 years, 647 00:34:28,979 --> 00:34:30,807 a film with Dr. King at the center. 648 00:34:30,851 --> 00:34:33,680 King and his comrades, moving forward, 649 00:34:33,723 --> 00:34:36,987 the notions of equality, justice, dignity, liberty 650 00:34:37,031 --> 00:34:41,688 within the context of a very racist, prejudiced country. 651 00:34:46,475 --> 00:34:48,651 Hello? Ava. 652 00:34:48,695 --> 00:34:52,307 - Yes? - I had to call you. I had to call you. 653 00:34:52,351 --> 00:34:55,963 I'm sitting here reading this thing just like, 654 00:34:56,006 --> 00:34:58,748 oh, my-- you're ripping my heart out with this thing. 655 00:34:59,793 --> 00:35:00,750 I'm reading scenes 656 00:35:00,794 --> 00:35:03,318 that are sort of evocative 657 00:35:03,362 --> 00:35:04,667 of scenes I've read before 658 00:35:04,711 --> 00:35:08,671 in different drafts, and it's just... 659 00:35:08,715 --> 00:35:10,673 The night and day of it, in terms of the tone 660 00:35:10,717 --> 00:35:12,806 and feel, the poignancy of it, 661 00:35:12,849 --> 00:35:16,201 the loving nature of it, the rhythm of it, 662 00:35:16,244 --> 00:35:18,855 the authenticity of it. 663 00:35:18,899 --> 00:35:22,772 To have all these figures in there, humanized, 664 00:35:22,816 --> 00:35:26,080 it's, like, the greatest gift 665 00:35:26,124 --> 00:35:28,865 we can give these warriors, you know? 666 00:35:28,909 --> 00:35:32,695 Mm-hmm. - It's great, man. It's great. 667 00:35:32,739 --> 00:35:35,481 Oh, yay, I'm relieved. 668 00:35:35,524 --> 00:35:37,178 You know, I'm sitting here trying to do other things 669 00:35:37,222 --> 00:35:39,485 and thinking what's going on over there? 670 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,097 So this call was helpful. 671 00:35:43,141 --> 00:35:46,144 I've very happy that you like it so far. 672 00:35:46,187 --> 00:35:48,450 Happy's not the word. Relieved. 673 00:35:49,930 --> 00:35:51,714 She rewrote the script, 674 00:35:51,758 --> 00:35:54,195 gave it a beautiful perspective, 675 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,023 deepened the character of Dr. King. 676 00:35:56,066 --> 00:36:01,246 But we still couldn't get the film made. 677 00:36:18,088 --> 00:36:21,744 Going into Paramount Pictures, 678 00:36:21,788 --> 00:36:25,139 uh, this week. 679 00:36:25,183 --> 00:36:29,317 Being in this period of not knowing if it's gonna go 680 00:36:29,361 --> 00:36:31,580 in April or October. 681 00:36:31,624 --> 00:36:35,932 So, mentally and physically 682 00:36:35,976 --> 00:36:37,369 I sort of feel like 683 00:36:37,412 --> 00:36:39,545 I'm on pause, 'cause 684 00:36:39,588 --> 00:36:43,636 I can't sort of let go of... 685 00:36:46,334 --> 00:36:50,033 ...him entirely. 686 00:36:50,077 --> 00:36:53,602 Uh, because in a moment's notice 687 00:36:53,646 --> 00:36:56,039 I may be, you know, like, 688 00:36:56,083 --> 00:37:00,696 ten to 15 weeks out from having to actually do the film. 689 00:37:00,740 --> 00:37:03,917 Since being told 690 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,180 that I would do this, 691 00:37:06,224 --> 00:37:09,662 all that's changed, you know, that hasn't changed, 692 00:37:09,705 --> 00:37:12,142 I have changed. 693 00:37:12,186 --> 00:37:15,755 You know, my very first reaction to... 694 00:37:17,757 --> 00:37:22,370 ...feeling acutely that 695 00:37:22,414 --> 00:37:23,632 I would play this role 696 00:37:23,676 --> 00:37:27,897 was, uh, a feeling of... 697 00:37:29,812 --> 00:37:33,555 ...surprise, a feeling of doubt. 698 00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:37,255 Feelings of anxiety because... 699 00:37:38,865 --> 00:37:42,085 ...am I-- I don't know that I'm worthy of it. 700 00:37:42,129 --> 00:37:46,002 And what do I need to be, how do I need to be 701 00:37:46,046 --> 00:37:48,657 to stay worthy 702 00:37:48,701 --> 00:37:53,314 of that opportunity? 703 00:37:53,358 --> 00:37:56,839 Um, and you know, through the years, 704 00:37:56,883 --> 00:37:58,537 what's changed is that 705 00:37:58,580 --> 00:38:00,974 I know I'm not worthy of the opportunity, 706 00:38:01,017 --> 00:38:05,413 and I know that it is 707 00:38:05,457 --> 00:38:07,197 unmerited favor. 708 00:38:08,590 --> 00:38:11,637 I was in a headspace of, "I've got to do this now." 709 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,162 Now, as time has gone on, I realize that 710 00:38:15,205 --> 00:38:17,860 - this will be done through me. - Mm. 711 00:38:17,904 --> 00:38:21,777 And so that's both freeing, releasing... 712 00:38:21,821 --> 00:38:25,868 Um, it gives me a sense of relief. 713 00:38:25,912 --> 00:38:27,435 It gives me a sense of excitement 714 00:38:27,479 --> 00:38:30,220 because I don't know what that looks like, you know. 715 00:38:30,264 --> 00:38:32,788 I have cobbled together performances. 716 00:38:32,832 --> 00:38:35,704 I have envisaged performances in my head 717 00:38:35,748 --> 00:38:38,446 and effectively executed them. 718 00:38:38,490 --> 00:38:42,494 But I don't-I don't know what this will be. 719 00:38:42,537 --> 00:38:47,455 I don't know what me plus God plus King plus this film 720 00:38:47,499 --> 00:38:50,589 plus Ava's script equals. 721 00:38:50,632 --> 00:38:55,028 I feel it equals something divine, 722 00:38:55,071 --> 00:38:57,422 but I don't know what it is. 723 00:38:59,859 --> 00:39:03,819 Enough has happened with this... 724 00:39:03,863 --> 00:39:08,607 this episode in my life 725 00:39:08,650 --> 00:39:12,480 for me to know that 726 00:39:12,524 --> 00:39:15,091 the right thing for the film 727 00:39:15,135 --> 00:39:18,225 will be what happens. 728 00:39:18,268 --> 00:39:21,402 This was given to him from on high, 729 00:39:21,446 --> 00:39:23,883 and he took it, and he ran with it. 730 00:39:23,926 --> 00:39:26,407 And every decision, every other thing 731 00:39:26,451 --> 00:39:29,105 that's come into play was only following 732 00:39:29,149 --> 00:39:30,585 the natural course that had already been set 733 00:39:30,629 --> 00:39:33,849 because he stepped into... You know what I mean? 734 00:39:33,893 --> 00:39:36,025 He stepped into what was his. 735 00:39:36,069 --> 00:39:40,465 No, no, he wasn't deserving. He was chosen. 736 00:39:41,596 --> 00:39:44,120 David being at the heart of all of this, 737 00:39:44,164 --> 00:39:48,690 it was David who introduced Ava, 738 00:39:48,734 --> 00:39:52,868 um... and it was David 739 00:39:52,912 --> 00:39:55,305 who introduced Oprah Winfrey. 740 00:39:55,349 --> 00:39:56,959 I went to her and I said, 741 00:39:57,003 --> 00:39:59,309 uh, "We need you. 742 00:39:59,353 --> 00:40:00,441 I need you." 743 00:40:00,485 --> 00:40:03,096 "To do what?" 744 00:40:03,139 --> 00:40:04,880 "Would you consider being a producer on the movie?" 745 00:40:04,924 --> 00:40:06,665 "What does that mean?" 746 00:40:06,708 --> 00:40:09,885 "I just, I just, I just need you around this thing." 747 00:40:09,929 --> 00:40:11,452 "Okay." 748 00:40:11,496 --> 00:40:13,759 That's literally how that phone call went. 749 00:40:13,802 --> 00:40:14,977 I knew that it was destiny, 750 00:40:15,021 --> 00:40:18,328 and I wanted to be a part of that 751 00:40:18,372 --> 00:40:20,766 because he now is my friend, 752 00:40:20,809 --> 00:40:24,596 and so I will do whatever I can to help you as my friend. 753 00:40:26,249 --> 00:40:28,295 There was an absolute 754 00:40:28,338 --> 00:40:32,255 galvanizing effect when Oprah came on board. 755 00:40:34,562 --> 00:40:36,521 38 years after being born, 756 00:40:36,564 --> 00:40:39,306 25 years after moving back to London 757 00:40:39,349 --> 00:40:40,786 and discovering acting, 758 00:40:40,829 --> 00:40:42,701 and seven years after hearing and believing 759 00:40:42,744 --> 00:40:45,355 that I would play Dr. King in Selma, 760 00:40:45,399 --> 00:40:48,010 all the elements for actually shooting the film 761 00:40:48,054 --> 00:40:50,317 had finally come together. 762 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,103 We had eight weeks left until day one of filming. 763 00:40:54,147 --> 00:40:56,497 I don't even know what to do with myself. 764 00:40:58,456 --> 00:41:00,501 I'm in such a... 765 00:41:00,545 --> 00:41:02,503 - I-I mean... 766 00:41:02,547 --> 00:41:05,114 Seriously, when you-when you, when I... literally, 767 00:41:05,158 --> 00:41:07,682 I'm, like, literally, I was a nanosecond away 768 00:41:07,726 --> 00:41:09,684 from pressing "send" on this Bible verse. 769 00:41:09,728 --> 00:41:11,773 I was about to say, so that's why when I saw 770 00:41:11,817 --> 00:41:15,124 - your name come up, I was like, Ava. Aw. 771 00:41:15,168 --> 00:41:17,387 And then you just, you just break into, 772 00:41:17,431 --> 00:41:20,521 "So, uh, by the way, you know, that whole... 773 00:41:20,565 --> 00:41:22,305 - uh, looking, looking--" 774 00:41:22,349 --> 00:41:25,395 Yeah, no, but even just that thing of... 775 00:41:25,439 --> 00:41:27,397 I-I thought it was like, "Oh, my sister, 776 00:41:27,441 --> 00:41:30,400 she just needs a-a 'phonal' hug." 777 00:41:30,444 --> 00:41:31,706 And then you... 778 00:41:31,750 --> 00:41:36,537 And then you'd, you drop full asking. 779 00:41:36,581 --> 00:41:38,365 Full. 780 00:41:48,593 --> 00:41:49,942 Yeah. 781 00:41:51,073 --> 00:41:52,510 Right. 782 00:42:02,084 --> 00:42:03,956 A lot of good things. 783 00:43:00,403 --> 00:43:02,536 You're finally doing it? 784 00:43:04,843 --> 00:43:06,453 Looks that way. 785 00:43:11,850 --> 00:43:13,982 So, the movie is called Selma, right? 786 00:43:14,026 --> 00:43:16,550 Mm-hmm. 787 00:43:16,594 --> 00:43:18,204 And... 788 00:43:18,247 --> 00:43:21,207 How long have you been working on it again? 789 00:43:21,990 --> 00:43:23,688 About seven years. 790 00:43:27,866 --> 00:43:29,215 That's a lot. 791 00:43:31,913 --> 00:43:34,220 I have to go eat now. 792 00:43:40,966 --> 00:43:43,098 - Love you, Dad. - Love you, baby. 793 00:43:44,056 --> 00:43:47,189 The-the reason I felt that in playing Dr. King 794 00:43:47,233 --> 00:43:48,538 I had to do this is, when I, 795 00:43:48,582 --> 00:43:50,584 when you see him giving a speech, you know 796 00:43:50,628 --> 00:43:54,370 he's flowing in his anointing, you know that God is moving 797 00:43:54,414 --> 00:43:58,853 through him and speaking to him and out of him. 798 00:43:58,897 --> 00:44:02,901 How do you do that as an actor? Well, I don't know. 799 00:44:02,944 --> 00:44:06,165 The gamble I took was to do all the work, 800 00:44:06,208 --> 00:44:08,689 all the preparation I could, 801 00:44:08,733 --> 00:44:11,823 and then trust that... 802 00:44:13,389 --> 00:44:15,914 ...there will be spiritual activity 803 00:44:15,957 --> 00:44:17,524 that would speak to the audience. 804 00:44:17,567 --> 00:44:21,571 All I knew is that that had to happen. 805 00:44:23,922 --> 00:44:27,360 ♪ Ooh ♪ 806 00:44:38,632 --> 00:44:42,897 You want him to explain that, to bask in it, 807 00:44:42,941 --> 00:44:44,899 to take a couple of years off, you know. 808 00:44:44,943 --> 00:44:47,902 He comes back to the Nobel Peace Prize 809 00:44:47,946 --> 00:44:50,949 in the middle of December, like, December 15th. 810 00:44:50,992 --> 00:44:52,124 On January 2nd, 811 00:44:52,167 --> 00:44:54,343 he's at Selma. 812 00:44:54,387 --> 00:44:57,520 I turned to my wife Coretta, 813 00:44:57,564 --> 00:44:59,740 and said the same thing I often say 814 00:44:59,784 --> 00:45:03,613 when one of our leaders is struck down-- 815 00:45:03,657 --> 00:45:06,878 Our lives are not fully lived 816 00:45:06,921 --> 00:45:10,838 if we're not willing to die for what we believe. 817 00:45:10,882 --> 00:45:14,320 In order to play Dr. King, you know, there's... 818 00:45:16,235 --> 00:45:18,716 There's the superficial stuff and then the spiritual stuff. 819 00:45:18,759 --> 00:45:20,848 The superficial stuff was weight gain. 820 00:45:20,892 --> 00:45:23,677 ♪ You were made for me and, baby ♪ 821 00:45:23,721 --> 00:45:26,506 ♪ I was made for you... ♪ 822 00:45:26,549 --> 00:45:29,770 Shaving my hairline back, growing a moustache, 823 00:45:29,814 --> 00:45:33,382 which is very detailed, very tough work. 824 00:45:33,426 --> 00:45:36,255 And then... his voice. 825 00:45:36,298 --> 00:45:37,778 You know, people often say to me, 826 00:45:37,822 --> 00:45:40,955 "Gosh, you're British. How did you do the voice?" 827 00:45:40,999 --> 00:45:43,175 I... 828 00:45:43,218 --> 00:45:46,961 defy any American to just ship up 829 00:45:47,005 --> 00:45:48,615 and sound like Dr. King. 830 00:45:48,658 --> 00:45:53,663 Glory, hallelujah! Glory, hallelujah! 831 00:45:53,707 --> 00:45:56,797 Our God is marching on and so I say, 832 00:45:56,841 --> 00:46:00,018 work together, children, don't you get weary. 833 00:46:00,061 --> 00:46:03,586 There's a great camp meeting in the promised land. 834 00:46:03,630 --> 00:46:05,545 He-he was so unique 835 00:46:05,588 --> 00:46:07,503 in the way he spoke, and basically, 836 00:46:07,547 --> 00:46:10,376 what I had to do is deconstruct the way he spoke. 837 00:46:12,987 --> 00:46:16,382 20. So 20 million Negro. 838 00:46:16,425 --> 00:46:17,470 - 20. - Yes. 839 00:46:17,513 --> 00:46:19,994 You almost want a "T-W-I-N." 840 00:46:20,038 --> 00:46:22,257 - Twin. - Twenty. 841 00:46:22,301 --> 00:46:23,693 - Yes. - Twin... 842 00:46:23,737 --> 00:46:26,000 He had Atlanta in his accent, 843 00:46:26,044 --> 00:46:27,306 but he had a lot of Boston 844 00:46:27,349 --> 00:46:28,394 in his accent. 845 00:46:28,437 --> 00:46:30,831 He had the tremulous voice 846 00:46:30,875 --> 00:46:34,269 of a Southern Baptist preacher, but he was reacting against 847 00:46:34,313 --> 00:46:36,706 the style of his father. 848 00:46:36,750 --> 00:46:38,665 Then, you have to build a bridge 849 00:46:38,708 --> 00:46:41,842 between what we know he sounds like publicly 850 00:46:41,886 --> 00:46:45,585 and what he had to have sounded like privately. 851 00:46:45,628 --> 00:46:49,850 Ever wish we could go back before? 852 00:46:54,507 --> 00:46:57,292 - Yes, sir. 853 00:46:57,336 --> 00:46:59,425 Dr. King. 854 00:46:59,468 --> 00:47:01,601 - Good. - Well done. 855 00:47:01,644 --> 00:47:03,864 - Yeah. - Well done. 856 00:47:03,908 --> 00:47:06,867 Work in progress that we're sending to Ava. 857 00:47:06,911 --> 00:47:09,783 Mm-hmm. Okay. 858 00:47:11,567 --> 00:47:13,004 Necktie. 859 00:47:13,047 --> 00:47:15,745 In the same way that I was deconstructing King 860 00:47:15,789 --> 00:47:17,965 in the narrative and trying to figure out 861 00:47:18,009 --> 00:47:20,794 how do you get to the man, 862 00:47:20,838 --> 00:47:24,450 David was doing that in little 863 00:47:24,493 --> 00:47:26,452 humanizing, bite-sized pieces. 864 00:47:26,495 --> 00:47:28,410 I mean, he's such a master at what he does. 865 00:47:28,454 --> 00:47:31,370 I do not have command of my own life. 866 00:47:31,413 --> 00:47:34,590 I cannot determine my own destiny, 867 00:47:34,634 --> 00:47:37,419 for it is determined for me by people who would 868 00:47:37,463 --> 00:47:40,858 rather see me suffer than succeed. 869 00:47:40,901 --> 00:47:42,729 We see our children become victims 870 00:47:42,772 --> 00:47:44,731 of one of the most violent, one of the most 871 00:47:44,774 --> 00:47:46,907 - vicious attacks ever. Vicious crimes. 872 00:47:46,951 --> 00:47:50,780 ...vicious crimes ever perpetrated by humanity 873 00:47:50,824 --> 00:47:53,696 within the walls of their own church. 874 00:47:53,740 --> 00:47:55,176 They are sainted now. 875 00:47:55,220 --> 00:47:58,092 They are the sainted ones in this quest for freedom, 876 00:47:58,136 --> 00:48:00,051 and they speak to us still. 877 00:48:01,835 --> 00:48:05,708 Every white politician who feeds on hatred 878 00:48:05,752 --> 00:48:09,016 and prejudice, every white lawman 879 00:48:09,060 --> 00:48:12,759 who abuses the law to terrorize, 880 00:48:12,802 --> 00:48:16,894 who murdered Jimmie Lee Jackson. 881 00:48:16,937 --> 00:48:21,420 Every Negro man and woman who stands by 882 00:48:21,463 --> 00:48:23,465 without joining this fight 883 00:48:23,509 --> 00:48:26,947 as their brothers and sisters are humiliated, 884 00:48:26,991 --> 00:48:30,733 brutalized and ripped from this Earth. 885 00:48:32,170 --> 00:48:33,562 One struggle ends 886 00:48:33,606 --> 00:48:35,956 just to go right to the next and the next. 887 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,741 You think of it that way, it's a hard road. 888 00:48:38,785 --> 00:48:40,526 But I don't think of it that way. 889 00:48:40,569 --> 00:48:43,355 I think of these efforts as one effort. 890 00:48:43,398 --> 00:48:46,488 That one effort is for our life. 891 00:48:46,532 --> 00:48:49,665 What I couldn't have anticipated is... 892 00:48:51,189 --> 00:48:52,886 ...my mum having a... 893 00:48:54,322 --> 00:48:56,368 ...having a brain hemorrhage. 894 00:49:00,285 --> 00:49:02,461 Got a text from my dad saying, 895 00:49:02,504 --> 00:49:05,203 "Your mother is in critical condition. 896 00:49:05,246 --> 00:49:06,595 Call me." 897 00:49:06,639 --> 00:49:10,686 She had had a brain hemorrhage. 898 00:49:10,730 --> 00:49:15,169 I flew to London... 899 00:49:15,213 --> 00:49:17,998 and she was in a coma. 900 00:49:18,042 --> 00:49:19,739 Here we are... 901 00:49:20,696 --> 00:49:25,136 ...on the ITU. 902 00:49:25,179 --> 00:49:28,791 Possibly the worst week of my life. 903 00:49:29,749 --> 00:49:31,577 Hi, Mum. 904 00:49:37,104 --> 00:49:39,889 So we got green-lit. 905 00:49:39,933 --> 00:49:41,848 Then I had to just drop everything. 906 00:49:41,891 --> 00:49:43,719 I couldn't think about Dr. King. 907 00:49:43,763 --> 00:49:46,505 I couldn't think about eating in order to gain, 908 00:49:46,548 --> 00:49:48,202 gain the weight. 909 00:49:48,246 --> 00:49:49,508 This thing that 910 00:49:49,551 --> 00:49:52,032 had been a seven-year dream journey, 911 00:49:52,076 --> 00:49:53,991 I could feel it slipping through my fingers. 912 00:49:54,034 --> 00:49:57,516 And I was doing anything and everything 913 00:49:57,559 --> 00:50:00,475 but preparing to play Dr. King. 914 00:50:01,259 --> 00:50:04,305 My dad was a-a mess. 915 00:50:04,349 --> 00:50:05,567 My brothers were lost. 916 00:50:05,611 --> 00:50:07,439 I was lost. 917 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,051 My mum is... 918 00:50:11,095 --> 00:50:14,620 the glue in our family. She just is. 919 00:50:14,663 --> 00:50:18,841 God is in control, as my mum always says. 920 00:50:21,366 --> 00:50:23,585 We shall overcome. 921 00:50:25,631 --> 00:50:31,637 ♪ We shall overcome ♪ 922 00:50:32,812 --> 00:50:36,642 ♪ We shall overcome ♪ 923 00:50:39,427 --> 00:50:44,650 ♪ We shall overcome ♪ 924 00:50:44,693 --> 00:50:50,438 ♪ Today ♪ 925 00:50:50,482 --> 00:50:53,789 I believe. In my heart. 926 00:50:54,660 --> 00:50:57,619 ♪ I believe ♪ 927 00:50:58,490 --> 00:51:00,753 ♪ We shall... ♪ 928 00:51:06,715 --> 00:51:12,547 What God said about me doing this role... 929 00:51:14,027 --> 00:51:15,898 Um... 930 00:51:15,942 --> 00:51:20,120 outside of my own control is, uh... 931 00:51:20,164 --> 00:51:21,382 very true. 932 00:51:21,426 --> 00:51:26,257 I didn't quite expect it to be this, though. 933 00:51:31,088 --> 00:51:33,046 We were moving house the day 934 00:51:33,090 --> 00:51:37,181 my mum had a brain hemorrhage and slipped into a coma. 935 00:51:37,224 --> 00:51:40,575 I had to drop everything, leave Jess with the kids 936 00:51:40,619 --> 00:51:42,055 and fly back to London. 937 00:51:42,099 --> 00:51:44,231 I had to sell my parents' business, 938 00:51:44,275 --> 00:51:45,885 clean and rent out their house, 939 00:51:45,928 --> 00:51:48,105 and forget about preparing to play Dr. King 940 00:51:48,148 --> 00:51:51,412 with only a few days left before shooting would begin. 941 00:51:51,456 --> 00:51:56,200 She had prayed this film into existence more than anyone else. 942 00:51:56,983 --> 00:51:59,377 But to do it, I had to leave her. 943 00:51:59,420 --> 00:52:01,857 She was still in a coma in intensive care 944 00:52:01,901 --> 00:52:03,250 when I flew back to the U.S. 945 00:52:03,294 --> 00:52:06,297 to finish my prep to play this man 946 00:52:06,340 --> 00:52:09,865 who was feeling more present with me every passing day. 947 00:52:09,909 --> 00:52:13,695 I felt like death was constantly around me. 948 00:52:13,739 --> 00:52:16,307 Though things go wrong, 949 00:52:16,350 --> 00:52:22,139 though sickness comes and the cross looms, 950 00:52:22,182 --> 00:52:23,836 nevertheless! 951 00:52:23,879 --> 00:52:27,405 You ought to have some great faith 952 00:52:27,448 --> 00:52:31,235 that grips you so much you will never give it up. 953 00:52:33,454 --> 00:52:36,631 I've dreamt about, 954 00:52:36,675 --> 00:52:40,244 daydreamed about... 955 00:52:40,287 --> 00:52:44,117 longed for, um, 956 00:52:44,161 --> 00:52:46,902 agonized over 957 00:52:46,946 --> 00:52:49,905 whether or not it will happen-- 958 00:52:49,949 --> 00:52:51,994 the first day of shooting. 959 00:52:52,038 --> 00:52:54,997 But I feel ready and that I'm very happy 960 00:52:55,041 --> 00:52:57,826 to be able to say that-- I feel relaxed. 961 00:52:58,697 --> 00:53:03,136 I really feel God's hand on it. 962 00:53:06,574 --> 00:53:08,272 Um... 963 00:53:09,795 --> 00:53:11,971 Yeah, I feel ready. 964 00:53:13,799 --> 00:53:15,627 Let's do it. 965 00:53:18,369 --> 00:53:19,631 Yes. 966 00:53:21,981 --> 00:53:24,244 It's nice you're here. 967 00:53:24,288 --> 00:53:25,637 Thanks. 968 00:53:39,433 --> 00:53:44,177 ♪ Hallelujah ♪ 969 00:53:44,221 --> 00:53:49,226 ♪ Yeah, hallelujah, thank you, Jesus...♪ 970 00:53:52,229 --> 00:53:56,015 My Father, my heavenly Father, come before me. 971 00:53:56,798 --> 00:54:01,803 Pray that every word I utter, every word, to Your glory. 972 00:54:05,416 --> 00:54:07,374 Thank you, Father. 973 00:54:07,418 --> 00:54:09,681 Okay. 974 00:54:10,682 --> 00:54:15,469 ♪ I know the storm inside is on its way over...♪ 975 00:54:15,513 --> 00:54:19,038 It's special, a very special day. 976 00:54:21,693 --> 00:54:24,086 It wasn't this hot in March of 1965. 977 00:54:24,130 --> 00:54:26,306 So, you got to help me fake it and act 978 00:54:26,350 --> 00:54:28,613 like it's a beautiful breeze, right? 979 00:54:28,656 --> 00:54:29,614 Even though it's very hot. 980 00:54:29,657 --> 00:54:32,399 And action. 981 00:54:33,835 --> 00:54:35,750 Perfect. 982 00:54:35,794 --> 00:54:37,491 ♪ I got to tell you one more thing now...♪ 983 00:54:39,537 --> 00:54:41,495 ♪ Some time ago ♪ 984 00:54:41,539 --> 00:54:43,367 ♪ Some time back there ♪ 985 00:54:46,370 --> 00:54:49,329 ♪ Never, no, I won't cry ♪ 986 00:54:49,373 --> 00:54:52,506 ♪ I know the storm is passing over ♪ 987 00:54:52,550 --> 00:54:55,030 ♪ I know, I know. ♪ 988 00:54:55,074 --> 00:54:56,989 All I had pictured... 989 00:54:58,295 --> 00:55:02,908 The first day of shooting, being, was very emotional and... 990 00:55:03,691 --> 00:55:05,867 ...full of relief. 991 00:55:05,911 --> 00:55:08,870 And, uh, you know, the moment where 992 00:55:08,914 --> 00:55:11,917 we all got to pray together, and... 993 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,050 remind ourselves of the fact that, um, 994 00:55:15,094 --> 00:55:18,227 this has to be an act of service. 995 00:55:18,271 --> 00:55:21,666 That was, uh, that was emotional 996 00:55:21,709 --> 00:55:24,233 and that was very meaningful. 997 00:55:24,277 --> 00:55:28,194 It set the tone in a sense, 998 00:55:28,237 --> 00:55:29,935 for what this should be. 999 00:55:29,978 --> 00:55:33,373 And I-- and I truly believe after yesterday's shooting, 1000 00:55:33,417 --> 00:55:35,244 that is what this is going to be. 1001 00:55:35,288 --> 00:55:37,159 You know, my fear has always been 1002 00:55:37,203 --> 00:55:39,814 that there would be this crippling... 1003 00:55:39,858 --> 00:55:41,773 uh... 1004 00:55:41,816 --> 00:55:45,298 sense of worthiness, and... 1005 00:55:47,126 --> 00:55:50,042 ...you know, we're doing something very important, 1006 00:55:50,085 --> 00:55:52,784 which I-I do believe we are. 1007 00:55:52,827 --> 00:55:54,351 But if you do it in that spirit, 1008 00:55:54,394 --> 00:55:57,789 it's going to be too heavy and probably unwatchable. 1009 00:55:58,833 --> 00:56:00,400 Day two now. 1010 00:56:02,141 --> 00:56:03,795 ♪ Mmm, mmm ♪ 1011 00:56:03,838 --> 00:56:08,495 ♪ Ain't no hill too high that you can't climb ♪ 1012 00:56:08,539 --> 00:56:09,757 Action. 1013 00:56:09,801 --> 00:56:11,411 ♪ Just now getting started ♪ 1014 00:56:11,455 --> 00:56:13,282 ♪ Mmm, yeah, it's your time ♪ 1015 00:56:13,326 --> 00:56:15,937 ♪ It's time to take it ♪ 1016 00:56:15,981 --> 00:56:17,286 ♪ More than what they see ♪ 1017 00:56:17,330 --> 00:56:20,115 ♪ Mmm, gotta finish strong ♪ 1018 00:56:20,159 --> 00:56:22,509 ♪ It's your destiny ♪ 1019 00:56:24,163 --> 00:56:27,645 ♪ I got it, I got it, I got it ♪ 1020 00:56:28,428 --> 00:56:30,212 ♪ Oh, I see it, I see it, I see it...♪ 1021 00:56:30,256 --> 00:56:31,475 Action! 1022 00:56:33,955 --> 00:56:36,393 ♪ Mmm, I feel it, I feel it, I feel it ♪ 1023 00:56:37,219 --> 00:56:39,613 ♪ Yeah, go get it, go get it, go get it ♪ 1024 00:56:39,657 --> 00:56:42,137 ♪ Mmm, mmm ♪ 1025 00:56:42,181 --> 00:56:44,662 ♪ Mmm, mmm-mm ♪ 1026 00:56:44,705 --> 00:56:46,185 ♪ Mmm, mmm ♪ 1027 00:56:46,228 --> 00:56:49,188 ♪ Mmm, mmm-mm ♪ 1028 00:56:49,231 --> 00:56:50,755 ♪ Mmm, mmm ♪ 1029 00:56:50,798 --> 00:56:52,974 ♪ Mmm, mmm-mm ♪ 1030 00:56:53,018 --> 00:56:55,150 ♪ Mmm, mmm ♪ 1031 00:56:55,194 --> 00:56:57,631 ♪ Yeah, yeah ♪ 1032 00:56:59,459 --> 00:57:01,809 ♪ I got it, I got it, I got it ♪ 1033 00:57:01,853 --> 00:57:04,290 ♪ Victory ♪ 1034 00:57:04,333 --> 00:57:06,988 ♪ Oh, I see it, I see it, I see it.♪ 1035 00:57:16,345 --> 00:57:18,565 We have not fought only for the right 1036 00:57:18,609 --> 00:57:23,309 to sit where we please and go to school where we please. 1037 00:57:23,352 --> 00:57:25,833 We do not only strive here today 1038 00:57:25,877 --> 00:57:28,488 to vote as we please. 1039 00:57:30,403 --> 00:57:33,145 - But we know the truth. 1040 00:57:33,188 --> 00:57:34,755 We know the truth, 1041 00:57:34,799 --> 00:57:38,933 and we will go forward to that truth, to freedom. 1042 00:57:48,900 --> 00:57:53,861 Today is the day that the Civil Rights Act went into law. 1043 00:57:53,905 --> 00:57:56,211 Fitting day to end. 1044 00:57:57,561 --> 00:58:01,216 I have envisaged this day for so many years. 1045 00:58:01,260 --> 00:58:03,218 Seven years to be precise. 1046 00:58:03,262 --> 00:58:07,701 And you all have worked so hard. 1047 00:58:07,745 --> 00:58:09,311 I have never been on a set 1048 00:58:09,355 --> 00:58:12,053 where there's been this much dedication, 1049 00:58:12,097 --> 00:58:14,403 this much going the extra mile, 1050 00:58:14,447 --> 00:58:19,713 this much beauty and service to a film. 1051 00:58:19,757 --> 00:58:22,150 And what has happened is 1052 00:58:22,194 --> 00:58:25,676 the most beautiful experience of my life, 1053 00:58:25,719 --> 00:58:27,982 outside of getting married to my wife and my children. 1054 00:58:31,595 --> 00:58:34,554 We pray for healing over this nation. 1055 00:58:34,598 --> 00:58:37,165 The pain that has been brought about 1056 00:58:37,209 --> 00:58:40,995 through ignorance, uh, inequality. 1057 00:58:41,039 --> 00:58:44,259 We just pray, Father God, that what we have learned as people 1058 00:58:44,303 --> 00:58:46,566 on this film we will take out into the world 1059 00:58:46,610 --> 00:58:48,525 and our film will do the same. 1060 00:58:48,568 --> 00:58:50,091 We thank you for our families, 1061 00:58:50,135 --> 00:58:51,745 those who have not seen us for a while. 1062 00:58:51,789 --> 00:58:54,226 We pray that we will go back to them and be able 1063 00:58:54,269 --> 00:58:56,358 to hug them better than we did before. 1064 00:58:56,402 --> 00:58:57,751 Have more love than we did before 1065 00:58:57,795 --> 00:58:59,536 because of this experience. 1066 00:58:59,579 --> 00:59:02,408 Thank you so much, dear God, for being present with us, 1067 00:59:02,451 --> 00:59:05,324 for keeping us, and I truly believe for helping us 1068 00:59:05,367 --> 00:59:07,935 create beauty that is going to bless the world. 1069 00:59:07,979 --> 00:59:09,937 We thank you so much! 1070 00:59:09,981 --> 00:59:12,331 Amen! 1071 00:59:15,029 --> 00:59:17,641 David, not even born in this country, 1072 00:59:17,684 --> 00:59:20,948 actually born of a name that says 1073 00:59:20,992 --> 00:59:22,515 "You're supposed to be a king." 1074 00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:26,084 You know, Oyelowo means "a king deserves respect." 1075 00:59:26,127 --> 00:59:28,129 Oyelowo, the king deserves respect. 1076 00:59:28,173 --> 00:59:33,961 ♪ Eyes open, stay wholly ♪ 1077 00:59:34,005 --> 00:59:38,836 ♪ On and on and on ♪ 1078 00:59:38,879 --> 00:59:42,230 ♪ Stay open. ♪ 1079 00:59:47,409 --> 00:59:49,498 But when I watch it, I... 1080 00:59:51,370 --> 00:59:53,067 So strange, because I... 1081 00:59:54,982 --> 00:59:57,681 I don't see any work, I just... 1082 00:59:59,204 --> 01:00:00,727 I just see... 1083 01:00:02,207 --> 01:00:03,774 Um... 1084 01:00:03,817 --> 01:00:06,603 I just see truth, and I see... 1085 01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,737 ...a familial effort and, uh... 1086 01:00:12,870 --> 01:00:16,525 ...so much love, so much... 1087 01:00:16,569 --> 01:00:18,005 pain. 1088 01:00:18,049 --> 01:00:21,182 Um, I don't see myself, 1089 01:00:21,226 --> 01:00:25,317 which is strange, but, um... 1090 01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:29,234 It's all on-screen, my dear. 1091 01:00:30,409 --> 01:00:35,022 Every sleepless night, every... dream, 1092 01:00:35,066 --> 01:00:37,546 every ounce of your talent, 1093 01:00:37,590 --> 01:00:41,289 it's all on there, it's beautiful. 1094 01:00:41,333 --> 01:00:44,205 No one can ever take this away from us. 1095 01:00:44,249 --> 01:00:46,338 No matter what happens. 1096 01:00:48,122 --> 01:00:49,297 God has... 1097 01:00:49,341 --> 01:00:51,691 God has enabled us to 1098 01:00:51,735 --> 01:00:55,260 make something beautiful out of so much pain. 1099 01:00:57,610 --> 01:01:01,570 I just pray that people will see... 1100 01:01:01,614 --> 01:01:03,442 the heart of it. 1101 01:01:04,661 --> 01:01:07,228 It's just a... It's just a call for justice, 1102 01:01:07,272 --> 01:01:10,101 a call for love, a call for change. 1103 01:01:11,189 --> 01:01:12,581 And it is lovingly done. 1104 01:01:12,625 --> 01:01:16,977 It's in the spirit of sacrificial love 1105 01:01:17,021 --> 01:01:19,850 that Jesus called for, 1106 01:01:19,893 --> 01:01:21,939 that Dr. King followed in. 1107 01:01:21,982 --> 01:01:24,245 We are part of that lineage with this film. 1108 01:01:24,289 --> 01:01:26,595 I don't care what anyone says. 1109 01:01:33,167 --> 01:01:36,475 My wife felt God say that she should buy a camera 1110 01:01:36,518 --> 01:01:38,869 and film my journey into playing Dr. King, 1111 01:01:38,912 --> 01:01:43,830 turn it into a documentary and call it Becoming King. 1112 01:01:43,874 --> 01:01:45,571 It was bizarre. 1113 01:01:45,614 --> 01:01:47,704 She had never even considered 1114 01:01:47,747 --> 01:01:49,531 making a documentary before, 1115 01:01:49,575 --> 01:01:52,186 but she researched cameras, took some classes 1116 01:01:52,230 --> 01:01:54,449 and started shooting, interviewing and editing. 1117 01:01:54,493 --> 01:01:58,410 No matter whatever difficulties, 1118 01:01:58,453 --> 01:02:01,326 we shall overcome it. 1119 01:02:01,369 --> 01:02:03,197 And it has happened. 1120 01:02:03,241 --> 01:02:04,721 The sky is the limit. 1121 01:02:04,764 --> 01:02:08,507 We are talking now about the summit. 1122 01:02:09,551 --> 01:02:13,077 Because as if there are greater things to come. 1123 01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:17,124 We have seen powerful white men 1124 01:02:17,168 --> 01:02:19,997 rule the world while offering 1125 01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:24,436 poor white men a vicious lie as placation. 1126 01:02:24,479 --> 01:02:27,831 And when the poor white man's children 1127 01:02:27,874 --> 01:02:32,226 wail with a hunger that cannot be satisfied, 1128 01:02:32,270 --> 01:02:35,969 he feeds them that same vicious lie. 1129 01:02:36,013 --> 01:02:39,451 A lie whispering to them 1130 01:02:39,494 --> 01:02:42,410 that regardless of their lot in life, 1131 01:02:42,454 --> 01:02:46,197 they can at least be triumphant in the knowledge 1132 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,416 that their whiteness 1133 01:02:48,460 --> 01:02:51,855 makes them superior to Blackness. 1134 01:02:51,898 --> 01:02:53,813 But we know the truth. 1135 01:02:55,032 --> 01:02:56,511 We know the truth, 1136 01:02:56,555 --> 01:02:59,210 and we will go forward to that truth, 1137 01:02:59,253 --> 01:03:00,515 to freedom. 1138 01:03:03,301 --> 01:03:05,477 We will not be stopped. 1139 01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:07,914 When will we be free? 1140 01:03:07,958 --> 01:03:10,351 Soon. And very soon. 1141 01:03:10,395 --> 01:03:14,225 Because mine eyes have seen the glory 1142 01:03:14,268 --> 01:03:15,966 of the coming of the Lord. 1143 01:03:16,009 --> 01:03:18,359 He is trampling on the vintage 1144 01:03:18,403 --> 01:03:20,535 Where the grapes of wrath are stored. 1145 01:03:20,579 --> 01:03:22,537 He has loosed the faithful lightning 1146 01:03:22,581 --> 01:03:24,844 of his terrible swift sword. 1147 01:03:24,888 --> 01:03:26,672 His truth is marching on. 1148 01:03:26,715 --> 01:03:31,242 Glory hallelujah. Glory hallelujah. 1149 01:03:31,285 --> 01:03:33,592 Glory hallelujah. 1150 01:03:33,635 --> 01:03:37,248 His truth is marching on. 1151 01:03:38,292 --> 01:03:42,644 ♪ Who said it would be easy? ♪ 1152 01:03:42,688 --> 01:03:44,908 ♪ It's a long, long road... ♪ 1153 01:03:44,951 --> 01:03:46,997 Dr. King prayed that God would use him 1154 01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,869 for a purpose greater than himself. 1155 01:03:49,913 --> 01:03:52,785 He was immeasurably so. 1156 01:03:52,829 --> 01:03:56,049 Having spent time with the king of the Civil Rights Movement, 1157 01:03:56,093 --> 01:03:59,400 I know for certain I couldn't have done what he did. 1158 01:03:59,444 --> 01:04:03,840 I just played a role and tried to honor him as best I could. 1159 01:04:04,710 --> 01:04:06,886 ♪ Long, long night and I'm so scared ♪ 1160 01:04:06,930 --> 01:04:09,715 ♪ Takes a long, long time to say my prayers...♪ 1161 01:04:09,758 --> 01:04:12,892 I've learned a lot and lost much. 1162 01:04:12,936 --> 01:04:15,634 Both of my parents have now passed away. 1163 01:04:15,677 --> 01:04:18,419 ♪ Get up, shake it off... ♪ 1164 01:04:18,463 --> 01:04:22,249 My mother never recovered and remained in a vegetative state 1165 01:04:22,293 --> 01:04:24,861 until she passed away in 2017, 1166 01:04:24,904 --> 01:04:27,559 three years after her hemorrhage. 1167 01:04:28,690 --> 01:04:31,215 ♪ Made the rules for this wicked game...♪ 1168 01:04:31,258 --> 01:04:34,218 My father succumbed to the colon cancer 1169 01:04:34,261 --> 01:04:38,048 that had unknowingly grown while he nursed my mother. 1170 01:04:38,091 --> 01:04:39,876 I miss them. 1171 01:04:39,919 --> 01:04:42,052 ♪ The truth cannot be bought or sold...♪ 1172 01:04:42,095 --> 01:04:45,011 As Dr. King once prayed, 1173 01:04:45,055 --> 01:04:46,534 "Use me, God, 1174 01:04:46,578 --> 01:04:48,928 "show me how to take who I am, 1175 01:04:48,972 --> 01:04:52,279 "who I want to be and what I can do 1176 01:04:52,323 --> 01:04:56,153 and use it for a purpose greater than myself." 1177 01:04:56,196 --> 01:04:57,937 ♪ Because there's more to go, I said ♪ 1178 01:04:57,981 --> 01:05:02,855 ♪ Who said it would be easy? ♪ 1179 01:05:02,899 --> 01:05:05,902 ♪ But we can't stop now ♪ 1180 01:05:05,945 --> 01:05:08,861 ♪ Don't look back because there's more to go ♪ 1181 01:05:29,882 --> 01:05:32,580 ♪ Long, long days and cold, hard nights ♪ 1182 01:05:32,624 --> 01:05:35,322 ♪ Lost inside but I see a light ♪ 1183 01:05:35,366 --> 01:05:38,021 ♪ In the distance far away ♪ 1184 01:05:38,064 --> 01:05:40,849 ♪ Once I get on my knees, I pray ♪ 1185 01:05:40,893 --> 01:05:43,635 ♪ Help me keep on keeping on ♪ 1186 01:05:43,678 --> 01:05:46,420 ♪ Help me, I know I can be strong ♪ 1187 01:05:46,464 --> 01:05:48,118 ♪ Don't know which way to go ♪ 1188 01:05:48,161 --> 01:05:51,338 ♪ But I got a long road and a ways to go ♪ 1189 01:05:51,382 --> 01:05:56,343 ♪ Who said it would be easy? ♪ 1190 01:05:56,387 --> 01:05:59,129 ♪ It's a long, long road ♪ 1191 01:05:59,172 --> 01:06:01,435 ♪ Don't look back because there's more to go ♪ 1192 01:06:01,479 --> 01:06:07,572 ♪ I said, who said it would be easy?♪ 1193 01:06:07,615 --> 01:06:09,835 ♪ But we can't stop now ♪ 1194 01:06:09,878 --> 01:06:14,883 ♪ Don't look back because there's more to go.♪ 92543

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