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♪ I am ♪
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♪ Making my way ♪
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♪ Through this dark ♪
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♪ And troubled world ♪
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♪ I am making my way ♪
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♪ To the glory ♪
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♪ You foretold ♪
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♪ The glory... ♪
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My name is David Oyelowo.
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I am an actor and the son
of Victoria Nwakaego Oyelowo
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and Stephen Oyelakin Oyelowo.
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Oyelowo, or as in its
proper Yoruba pronunciation,
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"O-ye-lowo," means
"a king deserves respect."
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In 2014, I was blessed
with the opportunity
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to play the most
influential civil rights leader
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of the 20th century,
Dr. Martin Luther King.
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Early on in my journey
towards playing Dr. King,
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my wife asked
if she could document
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the highs and lows
of what lay ahead.
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Let me be clear.
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My process as an actor
being followed
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was very uncomfortable for me.
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But I reluctantly agreed.
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And this is the story
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of the most wonderful,
horrible, turbulent
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and terrific chapter of my life.
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♪ Yes, I know
I was born to reign...♪
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Hi!
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I mean, look at those ki--
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♪ I was born to reign
with the music ♪
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♪ That I play,
and I'll shine...♪
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♪ Yes, I know... ♪
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There's another
gate there, baby.
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I remember us living in
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a one-bedroom situation whereby
we all slept in the same room.
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It was a compound, basically,
for lower-income families.
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My dad, being from a Nigerian
royal family, has pride
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in the best sense and didn't
want to sponge off anyone.
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We went it alone.
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This room here?
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This is where we had showers.
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We had communal toilets,
communal kitchen.
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It was a compound.
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Honestly,
it's not until coming back
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and just seeing it just now.
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I've just never,
ever thought of...
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us ever being poor.
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All their money went
into our private education.
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So I went to school
with some of the most
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wealthy people in Nigeria.
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But we lived a very frugal life
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because all their money went
into our education.
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- That was here?
- It was here.
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My dad always carried himself
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like a king. My mum,
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there's not really
a word to talk about how...
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how my mum carries herself.
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"Queen" is too small.
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Get my coat now.
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All right.
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- Hi, Daddy.
- Hello, Jessie.
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- Talk to me about David.
- Oh.
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- When you...
- Where do I start?
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How you got his name.
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Okay, okay. Yes.
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In a dream, I just saw...
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I saw my dad.
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And said,
"Oh, we are expecting this baby.
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What name do you
want to give us?"
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He said, "Call him David."
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And what that means to me is
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to do with David and Goliath.
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No matter what, how big,
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whatever effort anybody
want to play to destroy me...
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...I will overcome.
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And that is my own David.
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In 1989, my mum, brothers and I
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moved away from an increasingly
difficult political landscape
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in Nigeria, back to my country
of birth, England.
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My dad had to finish up
his work contract in Nigeria
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for a further four years.
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We went from close-knit
to being apart
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while living
in a homeless hostel.
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But I discovered something
new in London: acting.
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♪ Oh, yeah ♪
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♪ Mm-hmm ♪
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♪ Oh, yeah ♪
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♪ I'm a good man... ♪
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- So, when I met David,
he was 14.
- Okay.
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And I'd set up a youth theater
here at the National.
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There were
about 30 students in it.
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And one of the girls said,
"Would it be all right
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to bring a friend along?"
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And I said,
"Well, yes, let's have a look."
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And she brought David,
and I think
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David had no idea what he was
letting himself in for.
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I don't think he had it
in his mind at all.
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And it was really
evident from the go
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that even though he'd had
no drama experience,
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that I knew of-- very limited--
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that he was
leading man material.
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I ran into him,
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and he was telling me
what he was doing
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and how he was planning
to go to law school.
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'Cause he wanted
to become a lawyer,
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and his father was keen that
he become a lawyer.
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And I said, "Have you thought
ever about acting?"
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And he said,
"No, how would I do it?"
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And we talked and I realized
he was actually interested.
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Telling stories
and acting was my newfound love.
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Gill helped me apply
to drama schools,
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and much to my dad's
disappointment, I got in.
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Right before I started,
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I joined the National Youth
Music Theatre,
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where I honed my craft
and met my future wife.
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Jess was 17, I was 18.
We became friends.
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And when I realized
a future without her in it
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was unthinkable,
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three years after we met,
we got married.
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I had done the plays
and I had done youth theater
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with Jessie. And acting--
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they inhabited
the same space for me.
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Those were
the things I loved to do.
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And I wanted to see if I could
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make my passion my profession.
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An actor. Ah.
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"Actor? No, not an actor."
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Sincerely, I knew that
it may be difficult for him.
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Difficult for him because
this is a white man's country.
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From the get-go,
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he said, "I want
to be put up for work
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that is not ethnically specific.
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I want to do everything."
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If they perceive dissension
in our looks
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and that within ourselves...
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He had a massive quantum leap
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that I can't take
any credit for.
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He was cast as Henry VI.
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He became the first Black actor
to play a royal part at the RSC.
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So, what was it
that you saw in David
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that made you think,
"Oh, he could play a king"?
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There was a class,
there was a, a confidence
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about him,
especially for a baby,
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working with a lot more
experienced people around him.
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I didn't actually know that
David was a practicing Christian
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until we were in rehearsal.
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But it was good.
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It was good because
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Henry is a figure of,
yes, great vulnerability.
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Uh, in some ways,
a slightly otherworldly figure.
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Certainly a man of peace
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and the most articulate man
on peace and reconciliation.
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My mum would often talk about,
you know, "You are going to...
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You're going
to walk among kings."
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And I remember her saying that
when I was very young
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and I didn't really
know what it meant.
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I mean, you know,
we don't have kings anymore.
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You don't walk amongst kings.
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There aren't,
like, rooms full of kings
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that you just walk--
walk in and amongst.
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Um...
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But, uh, I guess it sort of made
more sense as I've gotten older.
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Kings have been a theme.
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I said, "How can...
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"a Black man play
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King of England?"
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It was in Telegraph newspaper.
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There was debate and all.
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And when he did it,
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Prince Charles
went to see him three times.
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An Oxford don said
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in a major newspaper in the UK
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that we open ourselves to
ridicule if we allow people
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who are not white to
play kings of England.
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That was the point
beyond which I was like,
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"Okay. Okay.
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That's all I need to hear."
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So after nearly ten years
of marriage and with two kids
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in tow, we took the scary step
of leaving behind friends,
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family,
and our careers in the UK
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to move our young family
to Los Angeles,
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a place where I could see
what I wanted to be:
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a Black man who could one day
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play leading roles
in popular films.
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I get a call, my assistant says,
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"It's David Oyelowo
on line one,"
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and I-I don't-- I think
he mispronounced his name.
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And I said,
"Who's David Oyelowo?"
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He was very calm,
and he said, "Hello, um,
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are you the head of
the talent department at ICM?"
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And I said, "Yes."
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And he said, "Oh, good, uh,
because I'm a client of ICM,
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"I've moved here from London,
my whole family's here,
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"and we've been here
for about six months,
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"and I haven't received
one script
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"nor have I got one meeting,
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um, and I'm starting
to get concerned."
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And I was like...
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And David had this kind of
strong confidence of,
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"I've-- I'm doing
everything right.
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This is your problem."
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He was basically saying,
"Can you help me?"
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I think one of the first things
I did send him was Selma.
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And then, uh,
the script, Selma,
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hit the doormat.
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And, um, I can't remember why,
but we were in a time of praying
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and fasting, I think,
at the church.
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Something like that.
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I just remember
being very hungry,
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uh, while I read the script.
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And, um...
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on the 24th of July, 2007,
I felt God say,
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"You are going to play Dr. King
in Selma."
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And on that day, I wrote it
as an entry in a new diary
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because it was so bizarre
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and I just wanted to see
how this played out.
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This is the diary
in which I, um,
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wrote on the 24th of July '07.
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It says,
"I am certain in my spirit
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"that the part
of Martin Luther King is mine,
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"but of course my flesh
is playing tricks on me.
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"God has told me
this part is mine,
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but He's also asked me
what I'll do with it."
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Like many, I knew of Dr. King.
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I knew he led the fight
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for the civil rights
of African Americans
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and that his work
for social justice was cut short
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by his assassination
in Memphis, Tennessee.
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But who was this man?
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What motivated him
to fight for the cause
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he was ultimately killed for?
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A cause for which people
are still dying today.
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I found myself in the grip
of an obsession to know him.
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Reveal him. Honor him.
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Driven by the calling I felt,
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I put four scenes on tape
from the original Selma script
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and auditioned for the role
I now felt destined to play.
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A few weeks later,
the director called and said,
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"He's a good actor,
but he's not King."
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His truth is marching on.
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And in all honesty, in my soul,
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I was a bit crushed,
a bit embarrassed,
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but my spirit was very clear.
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First director
was Stephen Frears.
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It's remarkable to think
about it now,
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but it was Stephen Frears,
I think Paul Haggis,
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um, then...
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Spike Lee,
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then Lee Daniels.
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In my search for King
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came, you know,
the usual suspects.
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So, the day
for the audition came,
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and I remember
I was very nervous.
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Very, very nervous.
Clammy hands, all of it.
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And, uh, I was just going
through my lines.
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And you had been praying for me
and you said, um,
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"Beware of distractions."
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And I said,
"What does that mean?"
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"What does...? That's not...
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Let's talk about
what I'm gonna do in the..."
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You just said, "Be-- no,
beware of distractions."
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And I was sat in the lobby,
uh, about to go up.
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I felt something...
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I don't know what it...
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I-I can't f--
I-I can't fully, um,
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articulate what it was,
but I just felt,
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I f-- it was,
it was like a cloak
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sort of just being put on--
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like, I-I felt this kind of...
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Something just
descended upon me.
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And I went into this zone.
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And then I w-- got called--
I was at the Chateau Marmont
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here in L.A., and I got called
to go for my audition.
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I walked in the room
and Lee said, "What,
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what have you been doing?"
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I said, "I don't know.
What do you mean?"
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He said, "Well, Dr. King
just walked in the room."
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I remember opening the door,
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looking at him, and saying,
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"Oh, my God, I found King.
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Yeah, I have found King."
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And I said, "Okay.
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Just keep doing
whatever you're doing."
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I turned to my sister
who's casting, I said,
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"Is he casting a spell
on me or something?"
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He's-- what's going on?
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I can't describe what it was.
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I still can't describe
what it was.
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I said, "Well, let's tape this,
shall we? Let's audition."
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We prayed first,
and it was the first time
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in all of my adult career
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that I was praying
in an audition.
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I whispered to my sister,
"Either he is sent from God
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or he's the biggest con
that I've ever met."
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And, um, so I sat down,
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and then he said to...
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his sister Leah,
who's also his casting director,
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"Okay, let's set up the camera
so David can do his audition,"
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and Leah said, "Uh... camera?
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"I thought
this was just a general.
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I didn't know
you were actually gonna..."
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And Lee went,
"David, I'm so sorry.
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Ghetto Productions. Leah."
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And, you know,
they went into this whole...
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brother and sister routine,
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and she went, "I have a Flip.
I have a Flip in my bag."
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Lee was like, "What's a Flip?
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What are you talking about
a Flip? I need a camera."
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And-and she goes,
"No, it is a camera."
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But I-- and I remember
that during the audition,
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the phone was ringing and s--
people was answering the door
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and it was just quite a debacle.
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But I just kept on hearing
your words,
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"Beware of distractions,
beware of distractions."
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And even though
it had, it had confused me,
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just hearing it meant
I wasn't thrown in a way of...
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"This is going badly."
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It was a disaster, basically,
in terms of distractions,
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but I never broke.
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And I felt sort of bad for him,
but he stayed--
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he was in the pocket,
he stayed in the pocket,
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and I was impressed with that.
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I subsequently found out
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that that was one of the things
that got me the part.
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I-- my spirit said,
"This is King."
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David effectively came on board
with Lee Daniels,
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and David was very assiduous
and obsessive about this role.
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So every time he would
come to London from L.A.,
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whenever he was passing through
town, he would come and see me,
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to find out where we were,
what my budget level was,
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what the demands were for other
cast members, et cetera.
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"Are we gonna go,
are we not gonna go?
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Are we gonna go,
are we not gonna go?"
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Liam Neeson's gonna do it,
Robert De Niro's gonna do it,
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Joaquin Phoenix is gonna do it,
Renée Zellweger's gonna do it.
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Ray Winstone's gonna do it.
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Uh, you know, but-but can-can
we get the money?
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All I'm thinking
the whole time is, "Guys,
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"I'm the little guy in this.
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I'm the no-name actor who just
got given this opportunity."
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The looming cloud
was always budget.
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The clock was ticking.
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And it felt like the beginning
of an amazing journey
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towards playing it,
with Lee Daniels as director.
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I first auditioned
for Selma in 2007,
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but I was finally cast as
Dr. King by Lee Daniels in 2010.
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I assumed the budget
would be easy to raise
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and we would be shooting soon.
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After all, this was Dr. King.
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But there were endless delays.
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While Lee was trying
to get Selma off the ground,
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I was cast in four other films
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when all I really wanted to do
was play MLK.
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But these films
were all set against
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the civil rights history
of America.
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Each of the roles gave me
context and insight
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into the life and mission
of Dr. King.
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Jess decided to give up working
for a time to homeschool
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our now four children
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so we could all hit the road
together
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while I shot these films
and learned more
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about the heart of the man
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I felt destined to play.
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And God tells us,
commands us, compels us,
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- to love. Amen?
Amen.
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The announcement of me
playing King in and of itself
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had done huge things
for my career.
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I think people thought, "Wow,
wow, this-- here's this guy
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who's gonna play King,
quick, let's hire him,"
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and that's exactly why I was--
I mean, literally why
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I was in The Help.
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Tate Taylor called me up
and said,
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"I hear you're gonna be
Martin Luther King.
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"I need a King type
to play a preacher.
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Do you want to write
a couple of sermons?"
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♪ Victory today is mine ♪
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♪ O, Lord... ♪
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Now that white people
have accustomed themselves
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to seeing Negro men with guns
fighting on their behalf,
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and now that they can tolerate
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Negro soldiers
getting equal pay,
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maybe in a few years,
they can abide the idea
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of Negro lieutenants
and captains.
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In 50 years,
maybe a Negro colonel.
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In 100 years, the vote.
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I remember the very first words
Steven Spielberg
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ever said to me when I met him
on the set of Lincoln.
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I had auditioned for him
on tape.
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I walked up to Steven Spielberg
and he said,
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"You're-you're gonna play King?"
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I had always felt
that playing Ira Clark
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in Lincoln was,
he was a preincarnate version
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of King in terms of quoting
the Gettysburg Address
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to Lincoln and saying,
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"You can't just say these things
and not do them."
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Effectively, I say the same
thing to Lyndon Johnson.
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19 presidents later.
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Same actor.
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I don't think
that's an accident.
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That we here highly resolve
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that these dead
shall not have died in vain.
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That this nation, under God,
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shall have
a new birth of freedom,
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and that government
of the people,
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by the people, for the people,
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shall not perish from the Earth.
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A friend of mine who was a, uh,
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photographer,
military photographer,
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told me the story of Red Tails.
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PILOT [over comm]: Where
the hell are you, Lightning?
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I said, "This is
a great idea for a movie."
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Come on, come on, come on.
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00:23:22,183 --> 00:23:25,229
- Gotcha!
- Obviously, there is
a racial angle to it,
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but at the same time, I didn't
want to make it about that.
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I wanted to make it about
ordinary GI World War II heroes.
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I did realize at the time
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that there weren't really
very many movies out there
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that were just about
Black people.
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The focus was completely
on Black pilots.
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To me,
one of the most important parts
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of making a movie is the cast.
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David was great,
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for all his opinions.
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So then, I went
to every single studio.
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00:24:04,138 --> 00:24:06,009
Nobody would distribute it.
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00:24:06,053 --> 00:24:08,011
And they said,
"Well, no, we don't think
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00:24:08,055 --> 00:24:09,491
there's a market there for it."
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00:24:09,535 --> 00:24:11,101
But eventually I had to go
and say,
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00:24:11,145 --> 00:24:12,973
"Look, I'll rent
the studio from you--
430
00:24:13,016 --> 00:24:14,496
"the distribution part
of the company--
431
00:24:14,540 --> 00:24:16,063
"I'll pay you this amount
of money and everything,
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I'll do everything."
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So I did.
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And, um... uh,
then the movie came out,
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00:24:22,504 --> 00:24:25,115
and it did what I wanted it
to do, which is,
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00:24:25,159 --> 00:24:26,943
you know, the guys are heroes.
437
00:24:28,336 --> 00:24:30,556
How you like that, Mr. Hitler?
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00:24:33,559 --> 00:24:35,299
Keep in mind,
we were still trying to do
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00:24:35,343 --> 00:24:36,692
the dance with Selma,
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00:24:36,736 --> 00:24:39,695
Selma all throughout
the process.
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00:24:39,739 --> 00:24:43,699
I began production
on The Butler,
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00:24:43,743 --> 00:24:45,527
and I put David in it
because he was family.
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00:24:47,050 --> 00:24:49,226
Get up, monkey. Get up.
What is this?
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00:24:49,270 --> 00:24:52,055
Listening to us?
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00:24:52,099 --> 00:24:53,970
It says, "Whites only."
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00:24:54,014 --> 00:24:56,320
The number of producer credits
on The Butler
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tells you just how many places
and people
448
00:24:59,106 --> 00:25:01,412
the budget
had to be gathered from.
449
00:25:01,456 --> 00:25:04,503
41 producers in total.
450
00:25:04,546 --> 00:25:07,288
"Black doesn't travel"
was still the excuse.
451
00:25:07,331 --> 00:25:10,291
The film was made
for around $20 million.
452
00:25:10,334 --> 00:25:14,600
It made close to $200 million.
453
00:25:16,906 --> 00:25:18,429
To have played
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00:25:18,473 --> 00:25:23,043
the sweep
of civil rights from...
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1865 through to 2008.
456
00:25:28,222 --> 00:25:30,616
1865 with Lincoln,
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00:25:30,659 --> 00:25:33,532
the '40s with Red Tails,
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um, you know,
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00:25:35,446 --> 00:25:37,710
the '60s in The Help,
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00:25:37,753 --> 00:25:40,321
and-and the '50s
461
00:25:40,364 --> 00:25:43,106
through to the 2000s
in The Butler.
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00:25:43,150 --> 00:25:46,545
Basically, God
463
00:25:46,588 --> 00:25:50,374
told me I was going to do this,
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00:25:50,418 --> 00:25:53,552
then sent me to school.
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00:25:56,511 --> 00:25:59,470
- I love you, Mama.
- I love you, son.
466
00:25:59,514 --> 00:26:02,125
- I love you always.
- I love you.
467
00:26:02,169 --> 00:26:03,649
I made you ham sandwiches.
468
00:26:03,692 --> 00:26:05,433
Thanks, Mama.
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00:26:06,652 --> 00:26:10,090
I had played Oprah Winfrey's son
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00:26:10,133 --> 00:26:11,874
in The Butler,
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00:26:11,918 --> 00:26:13,702
and then we just became
very good friends
472
00:26:13,746 --> 00:26:17,532
um, over the course of
shooting The Butler,
473
00:26:17,576 --> 00:26:19,578
partly 'cause I never--
I've never--
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00:26:19,621 --> 00:26:21,623
Gosh, this is a weird place
to admit this.
475
00:26:21,667 --> 00:26:23,494
I've never watched
a full episode
476
00:26:23,538 --> 00:26:24,844
of The Oprah Winfrey Show.
477
00:26:24,887 --> 00:26:27,890
- You get a car! You get a car!
478
00:26:27,934 --> 00:26:29,283
You get a car!
479
00:26:29,326 --> 00:26:32,982
Everybody gets a car!
480
00:26:33,026 --> 00:26:35,942
Everybody
gets a car!
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00:26:40,207 --> 00:26:42,339
I remember saying to her,
482
00:26:42,383 --> 00:26:43,906
"You're kind of a big deal."
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00:26:43,950 --> 00:26:46,692
And she said,
484
00:26:46,735 --> 00:26:48,824
"David, I can't believe--
485
00:26:48,868 --> 00:26:50,870
"I've been doing stuff.
486
00:26:50,913 --> 00:26:53,133
I need to send you some DVDs."
487
00:26:54,830 --> 00:26:58,051
I said, "No, you don't have to
send me anything.
488
00:26:58,094 --> 00:27:00,662
I-I can see, you're a big deal."
489
00:27:00,706 --> 00:27:03,186
David showed me
a tape of himself
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00:27:03,230 --> 00:27:05,362
doing the "Mountaintop" speech,
491
00:27:05,406 --> 00:27:08,409
the last speech that
Dr. King gave
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00:27:08,452 --> 00:27:10,672
before he was murdered
in Memphis.
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00:27:10,716 --> 00:27:14,154
I wouldn't have had the chance
later that year in August
494
00:27:14,197 --> 00:27:16,112
of 1963 to try to tell
America...
495
00:27:16,156 --> 00:27:17,548
I saw that speech.
496
00:27:17,592 --> 00:27:20,203
And it's the first time
I actually noticed that,
497
00:27:20,247 --> 00:27:22,684
oh, gee, there's
a resemblance there.
498
00:27:22,728 --> 00:27:27,123
He doesn't look like him,
but I can find it in his face.
499
00:27:27,167 --> 00:27:31,693
And I appreciated the work
500
00:27:31,737 --> 00:27:32,868
that had gone into
501
00:27:32,912 --> 00:27:36,002
the memorization and the cadence
502
00:27:36,045 --> 00:27:38,047
and the power and strength
503
00:27:38,091 --> 00:27:42,051
of King's eloquence.
504
00:27:42,095 --> 00:27:45,707
But I could see that
it was not there,
505
00:27:45,751 --> 00:27:48,884
that it was a,
it was more an imitation
506
00:27:48,928 --> 00:27:50,843
than it was an embodiment.
507
00:27:50,886 --> 00:27:53,759
She said,
508
00:27:53,802 --> 00:27:58,154
"It's okay. It's good.
509
00:27:58,198 --> 00:28:00,374
But you have to go deeper."
510
00:28:09,862 --> 00:28:11,820
If you're gonna bring King
to life,
511
00:28:11,864 --> 00:28:13,822
then you have to enter
the life of King.
512
00:28:13,866 --> 00:28:17,826
And I really tested
our friendship in that moment
513
00:28:17,870 --> 00:28:19,828
by saying to him, eh,
I'm gonna tell you what
514
00:28:19,872 --> 00:28:22,439
I really think,
and not what I know
515
00:28:22,483 --> 00:28:24,659
everybody who sees
this tape says.
516
00:28:24,703 --> 00:28:27,749
Because the obvious reaction is,
"Oh, my God, that's so great.
517
00:28:27,793 --> 00:28:29,751
Oh, my God, you look like King,
you sound like King."
518
00:28:29,795 --> 00:28:32,754
I could not help but think
at that moment
519
00:28:32,798 --> 00:28:36,627
about the fact that
I was receiving an award
520
00:28:36,671 --> 00:28:39,761
for something that had
not yet been achieved
521
00:28:39,805 --> 00:28:41,894
in the United States
and in the world.
522
00:28:41,937 --> 00:28:45,985
"Um, I'm gonna tell you that
I think you need to go in,
523
00:28:46,028 --> 00:28:47,377
and you need to go deeper."
524
00:28:47,421 --> 00:28:48,814
And I loved that.
525
00:28:48,857 --> 00:28:50,772
I loved the fact that
she didn't say
526
00:28:50,816 --> 00:28:52,905
what a lot of other people
had been saying.
527
00:28:52,948 --> 00:28:56,386
"It's great, it's amazing.
You look like him."
528
00:28:56,430 --> 00:29:00,347
She, I knew, was gonna
tell me the truth.
529
00:29:00,390 --> 00:29:04,307
And I said, um,
530
00:29:04,351 --> 00:29:06,919
"I know I'm gonna do this
before I die."
531
00:29:08,094 --> 00:29:10,749
Even though I was receiving
a Peace Prize,
532
00:29:10,792 --> 00:29:15,579
we were still having
tragic bombings in Mississippi,
533
00:29:15,623 --> 00:29:17,799
and murders in Mississippi
and Alabama and Georgia
534
00:29:17,843 --> 00:29:19,670
and other places.
535
00:29:19,714 --> 00:29:23,413
What murdered these
little girls?
536
00:29:23,457 --> 00:29:26,721
Every Negro who refuses
to go down
537
00:29:26,765 --> 00:29:30,290
to try to register and vote
participated in that act.
538
00:29:37,036 --> 00:29:40,996
What murdered these four girls?
539
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,652
The apathy and the complacency
of many Negroes
540
00:29:44,695 --> 00:29:48,482
who will sit down on their
stools of "do nothing,"
541
00:29:48,525 --> 00:29:51,093
and not engage
in creative protest
542
00:29:51,137 --> 00:29:53,139
to get rid of this evil system.
543
00:29:54,401 --> 00:29:56,969
This evil system.
544
00:29:57,012 --> 00:29:58,797
This evil system.
545
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,061
I felt about David playing King
546
00:30:02,104 --> 00:30:06,282
the same as I felt about Obama
becoming president.
547
00:30:06,326 --> 00:30:08,458
When David then shared with me
548
00:30:08,502 --> 00:30:11,766
that on July 24, 2007,
549
00:30:11,810 --> 00:30:15,857
he literally heard that thing
speak to him and say,
550
00:30:15,901 --> 00:30:18,773
"You're going to do this,"
I knew that it was destiny.
551
00:30:20,340 --> 00:30:22,951
What are you going to do
with-with Selma?
552
00:30:26,389 --> 00:30:29,871
He knew the answer.
He knew the answer.
553
00:30:30,959 --> 00:30:32,874
He knew the answer.
554
00:30:32,918 --> 00:30:36,660
I heeded the advice
and sought to go deeper.
555
00:30:36,704 --> 00:30:39,141
I found and talked to
contemporaries of Dr. King,
556
00:30:39,185 --> 00:30:41,274
tried to gain a deeper
understanding
557
00:30:41,317 --> 00:30:43,058
of how his faith motivated him
558
00:30:43,102 --> 00:30:45,365
in his fight against
racial oppression.
559
00:30:45,408 --> 00:30:49,673
I felt supernaturally guided
through this process.
560
00:30:49,717 --> 00:30:52,024
I thought I was ready,
and felt ready to go.
561
00:30:52,067 --> 00:30:56,985
It was the first time ever
that my heart was broken in...
562
00:31:01,729 --> 00:31:05,254
That my heart was broken
in-- from my work.
563
00:31:05,298 --> 00:31:08,823
Because I knew that the movie
was gonna go on without me.
564
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,784
And so Lee let go of Selma.
565
00:31:15,395 --> 00:31:17,658
I couldn't let go of Selma.
566
00:31:17,701 --> 00:31:20,487
I had done a film called
Rise of the Planet of the Apes,
567
00:31:20,530 --> 00:31:23,969
and I was on a plane
to Vancouver
568
00:31:24,012 --> 00:31:25,796
to do reshoots for it.
569
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,975
And I sat down next to a guy
who was watching a show
570
00:31:30,018 --> 00:31:33,195
called Spooks in the UK,
MI5 here in America.
571
00:31:33,239 --> 00:31:35,981
And he paused it on my face,
572
00:31:36,024 --> 00:31:39,288
turned to me and said,
"Is this you I'm watching
573
00:31:39,332 --> 00:31:41,334
on my iPad?"
574
00:31:41,377 --> 00:31:43,031
I said,
"Yeah, that's-that's me."
575
00:31:43,075 --> 00:31:44,467
He went, "That's crazy.
576
00:31:44,511 --> 00:31:46,426
I downloaded this
just a day ago."
577
00:31:46,469 --> 00:31:50,691
And he said, "You're an actor.
Is it good to invest in movies?"
578
00:31:50,734 --> 00:31:53,172
I said, "Well, that's
a loaded question.
579
00:31:53,215 --> 00:31:54,521
What do you mean?"
580
00:31:54,564 --> 00:31:55,478
He said, "Well,
a friend of mine has just
581
00:31:55,522 --> 00:31:56,653
"asked me for $50,000
582
00:31:56,697 --> 00:31:59,439
to put into this small movie."
583
00:31:59,482 --> 00:32:00,831
I said, "Well, what is it?"
584
00:32:00,875 --> 00:32:02,094
"Well, it's called
Middle of Nowhere.
585
00:32:02,137 --> 00:32:04,226
The director's called
Ava DuVernay."
586
00:32:04,270 --> 00:32:08,143
I had only two weeks before
seen her giving an interview
587
00:32:08,187 --> 00:32:10,667
about a film that she had done
called I Will Follow,"
588
00:32:10,711 --> 00:32:12,974
and been very impressed by her.
589
00:32:13,018 --> 00:32:15,629
And I said, "That rings a bell.
Wow. Um, well,
590
00:32:15,672 --> 00:32:17,979
"I'll read your script
591
00:32:18,023 --> 00:32:20,939
and I'll give you my opinion."
592
00:32:20,982 --> 00:32:23,376
He sent me the script, and on
the flight on the way back
593
00:32:23,419 --> 00:32:24,681
I read Middle of Nowhere.
594
00:32:24,725 --> 00:32:26,509
Blew my socks off.
595
00:32:26,553 --> 00:32:28,859
Brilliant, brilliantly
written script.
596
00:32:28,903 --> 00:32:31,514
Got off the plane, called Ava.
597
00:32:31,558 --> 00:32:34,169
"My name is David Oyelowo,
I read your script.
598
00:32:34,213 --> 00:32:36,998
I would love to be in it."
599
00:32:37,042 --> 00:32:40,001
She said, "Oh, my goodness,
you are on my short list,
600
00:32:40,045 --> 00:32:43,004
"but I just thought
you would never consider
601
00:32:43,048 --> 00:32:44,353
a film like this."
602
00:32:44,397 --> 00:32:47,008
Long story short,
we did that film together.
603
00:32:47,052 --> 00:32:49,880
And it became very clear to me
that this is the person
604
00:32:49,924 --> 00:32:51,926
who has to direct Selma.
605
00:32:51,970 --> 00:32:53,275
But the film we had done
together
606
00:32:53,319 --> 00:32:55,234
was a $200,000 film.
607
00:32:55,277 --> 00:32:58,411
Selma was always gonna be
in the region of $20 million.
608
00:32:58,454 --> 00:33:00,979
That's a tough ask.
609
00:33:01,022 --> 00:33:05,461
But I went to plan B,
Pathé, the companies
610
00:33:05,505 --> 00:33:08,290
who had the rights
to the film, and said,
611
00:33:08,334 --> 00:33:10,640
"I think I found our director."
612
00:33:10,684 --> 00:33:13,034
Initially, understandably,
there was pushback.
613
00:33:13,078 --> 00:33:16,733
And with time
and a bit of cajoling,
614
00:33:16,777 --> 00:33:19,171
maybe a little bit
of emotional blackmail,
615
00:33:19,214 --> 00:33:22,391
um, they met her.
616
00:33:22,435 --> 00:33:24,219
And when you meet Ava,
that's it, it's a wrap.
617
00:33:24,263 --> 00:33:27,788
You know, she's so intelligent,
so bright.
618
00:33:27,831 --> 00:33:29,268
And she came on board.
619
00:33:29,311 --> 00:33:31,487
♪ I know that God is
in command...♪
620
00:33:31,531 --> 00:33:34,403
My journey with Selma
begins and ends with David.
621
00:33:34,447 --> 00:33:38,233
I wouldn't have been thinking
nothing about Selma
622
00:33:38,277 --> 00:33:39,800
if it wasn't for David.
623
00:33:39,843 --> 00:33:41,410
David and I worked together
on Middle of Nowhere,
624
00:33:41,454 --> 00:33:44,805
which was an independent film
that I did before Selma.
625
00:33:44,848 --> 00:33:46,807
So many people in Hollywood,
626
00:33:46,850 --> 00:33:48,939
so many people in this industry,
just in general,
627
00:33:48,983 --> 00:33:52,073
wait for permission to move,
wait for permission to act.
628
00:33:52,117 --> 00:33:54,162
But that is not him
and never has been him
629
00:33:54,206 --> 00:33:55,990
as long as I've known him.
630
00:33:56,034 --> 00:33:58,210
So when Lee Daniels,
the director who had
631
00:33:58,253 --> 00:34:00,168
previously cast
and stepped away from Selma,
632
00:34:00,212 --> 00:34:02,779
David found himself
an actor without a director,
633
00:34:02,823 --> 00:34:04,738
an actor without a film,
and so he did what
634
00:34:04,781 --> 00:34:06,783
very few actors do.
635
00:34:06,827 --> 00:34:08,568
He moved the project forward.
636
00:34:08,611 --> 00:34:11,092
There's never been a film made
with Dr. King at the center
637
00:34:11,136 --> 00:34:13,181
in the 50 years since
these events happened.
638
00:34:13,225 --> 00:34:15,966
Dr. King has been a tangent,
an addendum.
639
00:34:16,010 --> 00:34:18,099
A supporting character
to the main action
640
00:34:18,143 --> 00:34:19,709
of somebody else.
641
00:34:19,753 --> 00:34:20,971
Whoever that is, I would argue,
642
00:34:21,015 --> 00:34:22,495
is not as important as Dr. King.
643
00:34:22,538 --> 00:34:24,714
I don't know who it was,
but over the years
644
00:34:24,758 --> 00:34:25,976
there have been other people
645
00:34:26,020 --> 00:34:27,456
who've been the central
character.
646
00:34:27,500 --> 00:34:28,936
So you finally have,
after 50 years,
647
00:34:28,979 --> 00:34:30,807
a film with Dr. King
at the center.
648
00:34:30,851 --> 00:34:33,680
King and his comrades,
moving forward,
649
00:34:33,723 --> 00:34:36,987
the notions of equality,
justice, dignity, liberty
650
00:34:37,031 --> 00:34:41,688
within the context of a very
racist, prejudiced country.
651
00:34:46,475 --> 00:34:48,651
Hello?
Ava.
652
00:34:48,695 --> 00:34:52,307
- Yes?
- I had to call you.
I had to call you.
653
00:34:52,351 --> 00:34:55,963
I'm sitting here reading
this thing just like,
654
00:34:56,006 --> 00:34:58,748
oh, my-- you're ripping
my heart out with this thing.
655
00:34:59,793 --> 00:35:00,750
I'm reading scenes
656
00:35:00,794 --> 00:35:03,318
that are sort of evocative
657
00:35:03,362 --> 00:35:04,667
of scenes I've read before
658
00:35:04,711 --> 00:35:08,671
in different drafts,
and it's just...
659
00:35:08,715 --> 00:35:10,673
The night and day of it,
in terms of the tone
660
00:35:10,717 --> 00:35:12,806
and feel, the poignancy of it,
661
00:35:12,849 --> 00:35:16,201
the loving nature of it,
the rhythm of it,
662
00:35:16,244 --> 00:35:18,855
the authenticity of it.
663
00:35:18,899 --> 00:35:22,772
To have all these figures
in there, humanized,
664
00:35:22,816 --> 00:35:26,080
it's, like, the greatest gift
665
00:35:26,124 --> 00:35:28,865
we can give these warriors,
you know?
666
00:35:28,909 --> 00:35:32,695
Mm-hmm.
- It's great, man. It's great.
667
00:35:32,739 --> 00:35:35,481
Oh, yay, I'm relieved.
668
00:35:35,524 --> 00:35:37,178
You know, I'm sitting here
trying to do other things
669
00:35:37,222 --> 00:35:39,485
and thinking what's going on
over there?
670
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,097
So this call was helpful.
671
00:35:43,141 --> 00:35:46,144
I've very happy that
you like it so far.
672
00:35:46,187 --> 00:35:48,450
Happy's not the word.
Relieved.
673
00:35:49,930 --> 00:35:51,714
She rewrote the script,
674
00:35:51,758 --> 00:35:54,195
gave it a beautiful perspective,
675
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,023
deepened the character
of Dr. King.
676
00:35:56,066 --> 00:36:01,246
But we still couldn't
get the film made.
677
00:36:18,088 --> 00:36:21,744
Going into Paramount Pictures,
678
00:36:21,788 --> 00:36:25,139
uh, this week.
679
00:36:25,183 --> 00:36:29,317
Being in this period of
not knowing if it's gonna go
680
00:36:29,361 --> 00:36:31,580
in April or October.
681
00:36:31,624 --> 00:36:35,932
So, mentally and physically
682
00:36:35,976 --> 00:36:37,369
I sort of feel like
683
00:36:37,412 --> 00:36:39,545
I'm on pause, 'cause
684
00:36:39,588 --> 00:36:43,636
I can't
sort of let go of...
685
00:36:46,334 --> 00:36:50,033
...him entirely.
686
00:36:50,077 --> 00:36:53,602
Uh, because in a moment's notice
687
00:36:53,646 --> 00:36:56,039
I may be, you know, like,
688
00:36:56,083 --> 00:37:00,696
ten to 15 weeks out from having
to actually do the film.
689
00:37:00,740 --> 00:37:03,917
Since being told
690
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,180
that I would do this,
691
00:37:06,224 --> 00:37:09,662
all that's changed, you know,
that hasn't changed,
692
00:37:09,705 --> 00:37:12,142
I have changed.
693
00:37:12,186 --> 00:37:15,755
You know, my very first
reaction to...
694
00:37:17,757 --> 00:37:22,370
...feeling acutely that
695
00:37:22,414 --> 00:37:23,632
I would play this role
696
00:37:23,676 --> 00:37:27,897
was, uh, a feeling of...
697
00:37:29,812 --> 00:37:33,555
...surprise, a feeling of doubt.
698
00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:37,255
Feelings of anxiety because...
699
00:37:38,865 --> 00:37:42,085
...am I-- I don't know that
I'm worthy of it.
700
00:37:42,129 --> 00:37:46,002
And what do I need to be,
how do I need to be
701
00:37:46,046 --> 00:37:48,657
to stay worthy
702
00:37:48,701 --> 00:37:53,314
of that opportunity?
703
00:37:53,358 --> 00:37:56,839
Um, and you know,
through the years,
704
00:37:56,883 --> 00:37:58,537
what's changed is that
705
00:37:58,580 --> 00:38:00,974
I know I'm not worthy
of the opportunity,
706
00:38:01,017 --> 00:38:05,413
and I know that it is
707
00:38:05,457 --> 00:38:07,197
unmerited favor.
708
00:38:08,590 --> 00:38:11,637
I was in a headspace of,
"I've got to do this now."
709
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,162
Now, as time has gone on,
I realize that
710
00:38:15,205 --> 00:38:17,860
- this will be done through me.
- Mm.
711
00:38:17,904 --> 00:38:21,777
And so that's both freeing,
releasing...
712
00:38:21,821 --> 00:38:25,868
Um, it gives me a sense
of relief.
713
00:38:25,912 --> 00:38:27,435
It gives me a sense
of excitement
714
00:38:27,479 --> 00:38:30,220
because I don't know
what that looks like, you know.
715
00:38:30,264 --> 00:38:32,788
I have cobbled together
performances.
716
00:38:32,832 --> 00:38:35,704
I have envisaged performances
in my head
717
00:38:35,748 --> 00:38:38,446
and effectively executed them.
718
00:38:38,490 --> 00:38:42,494
But I don't-I don't know
what this will be.
719
00:38:42,537 --> 00:38:47,455
I don't know what me plus God
plus King plus this film
720
00:38:47,499 --> 00:38:50,589
plus Ava's script equals.
721
00:38:50,632 --> 00:38:55,028
I feel it equals
something divine,
722
00:38:55,071 --> 00:38:57,422
but I don't know what it is.
723
00:38:59,859 --> 00:39:03,819
Enough has happened with this...
724
00:39:03,863 --> 00:39:08,607
this episode in my life
725
00:39:08,650 --> 00:39:12,480
for me to know that
726
00:39:12,524 --> 00:39:15,091
the right thing for the film
727
00:39:15,135 --> 00:39:18,225
will be what happens.
728
00:39:18,268 --> 00:39:21,402
This was given to him
from on high,
729
00:39:21,446 --> 00:39:23,883
and he took it,
and he ran with it.
730
00:39:23,926 --> 00:39:26,407
And every decision,
every other thing
731
00:39:26,451 --> 00:39:29,105
that's come into play
was only following
732
00:39:29,149 --> 00:39:30,585
the natural course that had
already been set
733
00:39:30,629 --> 00:39:33,849
because he stepped into...
You know what I mean?
734
00:39:33,893 --> 00:39:36,025
He stepped into what was his.
735
00:39:36,069 --> 00:39:40,465
No, no, he wasn't deserving.
He was chosen.
736
00:39:41,596 --> 00:39:44,120
David being at the heart
of all of this,
737
00:39:44,164 --> 00:39:48,690
it was David who introduced Ava,
738
00:39:48,734 --> 00:39:52,868
um... and it was David
739
00:39:52,912 --> 00:39:55,305
who introduced Oprah Winfrey.
740
00:39:55,349 --> 00:39:56,959
I went to her and I said,
741
00:39:57,003 --> 00:39:59,309
uh, "We need you.
742
00:39:59,353 --> 00:40:00,441
I need you."
743
00:40:00,485 --> 00:40:03,096
"To do what?"
744
00:40:03,139 --> 00:40:04,880
"Would you consider being
a producer on the movie?"
745
00:40:04,924 --> 00:40:06,665
"What does that mean?"
746
00:40:06,708 --> 00:40:09,885
"I just, I just, I just need you
around this thing."
747
00:40:09,929 --> 00:40:11,452
"Okay."
748
00:40:11,496 --> 00:40:13,759
That's literally
how that phone call went.
749
00:40:13,802 --> 00:40:14,977
I knew that it was destiny,
750
00:40:15,021 --> 00:40:18,328
and I wanted to be
a part of that
751
00:40:18,372 --> 00:40:20,766
because he now is my friend,
752
00:40:20,809 --> 00:40:24,596
and so I will do whatever I can
to help you as my friend.
753
00:40:26,249 --> 00:40:28,295
There was an absolute
754
00:40:28,338 --> 00:40:32,255
galvanizing effect
when Oprah came on board.
755
00:40:34,562 --> 00:40:36,521
38 years after being born,
756
00:40:36,564 --> 00:40:39,306
25 years after
moving back to London
757
00:40:39,349 --> 00:40:40,786
and discovering acting,
758
00:40:40,829 --> 00:40:42,701
and seven years
after hearing and believing
759
00:40:42,744 --> 00:40:45,355
that I would play
Dr. King in Selma,
760
00:40:45,399 --> 00:40:48,010
all the elements for actually
shooting the film
761
00:40:48,054 --> 00:40:50,317
had finally come together.
762
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,103
We had eight weeks left
until day one of filming.
763
00:40:54,147 --> 00:40:56,497
I don't even know
what to do with myself.
764
00:40:58,456 --> 00:41:00,501
I'm in such a...
765
00:41:00,545 --> 00:41:02,503
- I-I mean...
766
00:41:02,547 --> 00:41:05,114
Seriously, when you-when you,
when I... literally,
767
00:41:05,158 --> 00:41:07,682
I'm, like, literally,
I was a nanosecond away
768
00:41:07,726 --> 00:41:09,684
from pressing "send"
on this Bible verse.
769
00:41:09,728 --> 00:41:11,773
I was about to say,
so that's why when I saw
770
00:41:11,817 --> 00:41:15,124
- your name come up,
I was like, Ava.
Aw.
771
00:41:15,168 --> 00:41:17,387
And then you just,
you just break into,
772
00:41:17,431 --> 00:41:20,521
"So, uh, by the way,
you know, that whole...
773
00:41:20,565 --> 00:41:22,305
- uh, looking, looking--"
774
00:41:22,349 --> 00:41:25,395
Yeah, no, but even
just that thing of...
775
00:41:25,439 --> 00:41:27,397
I-I thought it was like,
"Oh, my sister,
776
00:41:27,441 --> 00:41:30,400
she just needs
a-a 'phonal' hug."
777
00:41:30,444 --> 00:41:31,706
And then you...
778
00:41:31,750 --> 00:41:36,537
And then you'd,
you drop full asking.
779
00:41:36,581 --> 00:41:38,365
Full.
780
00:41:48,593 --> 00:41:49,942
Yeah.
781
00:41:51,073 --> 00:41:52,510
Right.
782
00:42:02,084 --> 00:42:03,956
A lot of good things.
783
00:43:00,403 --> 00:43:02,536
You're finally doing it?
784
00:43:04,843 --> 00:43:06,453
Looks that way.
785
00:43:11,850 --> 00:43:13,982
So, the movie
is called Selma, right?
786
00:43:14,026 --> 00:43:16,550
Mm-hmm.
787
00:43:16,594 --> 00:43:18,204
And...
788
00:43:18,247 --> 00:43:21,207
How long have you been
working on it again?
789
00:43:21,990 --> 00:43:23,688
About seven years.
790
00:43:27,866 --> 00:43:29,215
That's a lot.
791
00:43:31,913 --> 00:43:34,220
I have to go eat now.
792
00:43:40,966 --> 00:43:43,098
- Love you, Dad.
- Love you, baby.
793
00:43:44,056 --> 00:43:47,189
The-the reason I felt that
in playing Dr. King
794
00:43:47,233 --> 00:43:48,538
I had to do this is, when I,
795
00:43:48,582 --> 00:43:50,584
when you see him
giving a speech, you know
796
00:43:50,628 --> 00:43:54,370
he's flowing in his anointing,
you know that God is moving
797
00:43:54,414 --> 00:43:58,853
through him and speaking
to him and out of him.
798
00:43:58,897 --> 00:44:02,901
How do you do that as an actor?
Well, I don't know.
799
00:44:02,944 --> 00:44:06,165
The gamble I took was
to do all the work,
800
00:44:06,208 --> 00:44:08,689
all the preparation I could,
801
00:44:08,733 --> 00:44:11,823
and then trust that...
802
00:44:13,389 --> 00:44:15,914
...there will be
spiritual activity
803
00:44:15,957 --> 00:44:17,524
that would speak
to the audience.
804
00:44:17,567 --> 00:44:21,571
All I knew is that
that had to happen.
805
00:44:23,922 --> 00:44:27,360
♪ Ooh ♪
806
00:44:38,632 --> 00:44:42,897
You want him to explain that,
to bask in it,
807
00:44:42,941 --> 00:44:44,899
to take a couple of years off,
you know.
808
00:44:44,943 --> 00:44:47,902
He comes back
to the Nobel Peace Prize
809
00:44:47,946 --> 00:44:50,949
in the middle of December,
like, December 15th.
810
00:44:50,992 --> 00:44:52,124
On January 2nd,
811
00:44:52,167 --> 00:44:54,343
he's at Selma.
812
00:44:54,387 --> 00:44:57,520
I turned to my wife Coretta,
813
00:44:57,564 --> 00:44:59,740
and said the same thing
I often say
814
00:44:59,784 --> 00:45:03,613
when one of our leaders
is struck down--
815
00:45:03,657 --> 00:45:06,878
Our lives are not fully lived
816
00:45:06,921 --> 00:45:10,838
if we're not willing to die
for what we believe.
817
00:45:10,882 --> 00:45:14,320
In order to play Dr. King,
you know, there's...
818
00:45:16,235 --> 00:45:18,716
There's the superficial stuff
and then the spiritual stuff.
819
00:45:18,759 --> 00:45:20,848
The superficial stuff
was weight gain.
820
00:45:20,892 --> 00:45:23,677
♪ You were made for me
and, baby ♪
821
00:45:23,721 --> 00:45:26,506
♪ I was made for you... ♪
822
00:45:26,549 --> 00:45:29,770
Shaving my hairline back,
growing a moustache,
823
00:45:29,814 --> 00:45:33,382
which is very detailed,
very tough work.
824
00:45:33,426 --> 00:45:36,255
And then... his voice.
825
00:45:36,298 --> 00:45:37,778
You know,
people often say to me,
826
00:45:37,822 --> 00:45:40,955
"Gosh, you're British.
How did you do the voice?"
827
00:45:40,999 --> 00:45:43,175
I...
828
00:45:43,218 --> 00:45:46,961
defy any American
to just ship up
829
00:45:47,005 --> 00:45:48,615
and sound like Dr. King.
830
00:45:48,658 --> 00:45:53,663
Glory, hallelujah!
Glory, hallelujah!
831
00:45:53,707 --> 00:45:56,797
Our God is marching on
and so I say,
832
00:45:56,841 --> 00:46:00,018
work together, children,
don't you get weary.
833
00:46:00,061 --> 00:46:03,586
There's a great camp meeting
in the promised land.
834
00:46:03,630 --> 00:46:05,545
He-he was so unique
835
00:46:05,588 --> 00:46:07,503
in the way he spoke,
and basically,
836
00:46:07,547 --> 00:46:10,376
what I had to do is
deconstruct the way he spoke.
837
00:46:12,987 --> 00:46:16,382
20. So 20 million Negro.
838
00:46:16,425 --> 00:46:17,470
- 20.
- Yes.
839
00:46:17,513 --> 00:46:19,994
You almost want a "T-W-I-N."
840
00:46:20,038 --> 00:46:22,257
- Twin.
- Twenty.
841
00:46:22,301 --> 00:46:23,693
- Yes.
- Twin...
842
00:46:23,737 --> 00:46:26,000
He had Atlanta in his accent,
843
00:46:26,044 --> 00:46:27,306
but he had a lot of Boston
844
00:46:27,349 --> 00:46:28,394
in his accent.
845
00:46:28,437 --> 00:46:30,831
He had the tremulous voice
846
00:46:30,875 --> 00:46:34,269
of a Southern Baptist preacher,
but he was reacting against
847
00:46:34,313 --> 00:46:36,706
the style of his father.
848
00:46:36,750 --> 00:46:38,665
Then, you have to build a bridge
849
00:46:38,708 --> 00:46:41,842
between what we know
he sounds like publicly
850
00:46:41,886 --> 00:46:45,585
and what he had to have
sounded like privately.
851
00:46:45,628 --> 00:46:49,850
Ever wish we could
go back before?
852
00:46:54,507 --> 00:46:57,292
- Yes, sir.
853
00:46:57,336 --> 00:46:59,425
Dr. King.
854
00:46:59,468 --> 00:47:01,601
- Good.
- Well done.
855
00:47:01,644 --> 00:47:03,864
- Yeah.
- Well done.
856
00:47:03,908 --> 00:47:06,867
Work in progress
that we're sending to Ava.
857
00:47:06,911 --> 00:47:09,783
Mm-hmm. Okay.
858
00:47:11,567 --> 00:47:13,004
Necktie.
859
00:47:13,047 --> 00:47:15,745
In the same way that
I was deconstructing King
860
00:47:15,789 --> 00:47:17,965
in the narrative
and trying to figure out
861
00:47:18,009 --> 00:47:20,794
how do you get to the man,
862
00:47:20,838 --> 00:47:24,450
David was doing that in little
863
00:47:24,493 --> 00:47:26,452
humanizing, bite-sized pieces.
864
00:47:26,495 --> 00:47:28,410
I mean, he's such a master
at what he does.
865
00:47:28,454 --> 00:47:31,370
I do not have command
of my own life.
866
00:47:31,413 --> 00:47:34,590
I cannot determine
my own destiny,
867
00:47:34,634 --> 00:47:37,419
for it is determined for me
by people who would
868
00:47:37,463 --> 00:47:40,858
rather see me suffer
than succeed.
869
00:47:40,901 --> 00:47:42,729
We see our children
become victims
870
00:47:42,772 --> 00:47:44,731
of one of the most violent,
one of the most
871
00:47:44,774 --> 00:47:46,907
- vicious attacks ever.
Vicious crimes.
872
00:47:46,951 --> 00:47:50,780
...vicious crimes ever
perpetrated by humanity
873
00:47:50,824 --> 00:47:53,696
within the walls
of their own church.
874
00:47:53,740 --> 00:47:55,176
They are sainted now.
875
00:47:55,220 --> 00:47:58,092
They are the sainted ones
in this quest for freedom,
876
00:47:58,136 --> 00:48:00,051
and they speak to us still.
877
00:48:01,835 --> 00:48:05,708
Every white politician
who feeds on hatred
878
00:48:05,752 --> 00:48:09,016
and prejudice,
every white lawman
879
00:48:09,060 --> 00:48:12,759
who abuses the law to terrorize,
880
00:48:12,802 --> 00:48:16,894
who murdered Jimmie Lee Jackson.
881
00:48:16,937 --> 00:48:21,420
Every Negro man and woman
who stands by
882
00:48:21,463 --> 00:48:23,465
without joining this fight
883
00:48:23,509 --> 00:48:26,947
as their brothers
and sisters are humiliated,
884
00:48:26,991 --> 00:48:30,733
brutalized and ripped
from this Earth.
885
00:48:32,170 --> 00:48:33,562
One struggle ends
886
00:48:33,606 --> 00:48:35,956
just to go right to the next
and the next.
887
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,741
You think of it that way,
it's a hard road.
888
00:48:38,785 --> 00:48:40,526
But I don't think of it
that way.
889
00:48:40,569 --> 00:48:43,355
I think of these efforts
as one effort.
890
00:48:43,398 --> 00:48:46,488
That one effort is for our life.
891
00:48:46,532 --> 00:48:49,665
What I couldn't have
anticipated is...
892
00:48:51,189 --> 00:48:52,886
...my mum having a...
893
00:48:54,322 --> 00:48:56,368
...having a brain hemorrhage.
894
00:49:00,285 --> 00:49:02,461
Got a text from my dad saying,
895
00:49:02,504 --> 00:49:05,203
"Your mother is
in critical condition.
896
00:49:05,246 --> 00:49:06,595
Call me."
897
00:49:06,639 --> 00:49:10,686
She had had a brain hemorrhage.
898
00:49:10,730 --> 00:49:15,169
I flew to London...
899
00:49:15,213 --> 00:49:17,998
and she was in a coma.
900
00:49:18,042 --> 00:49:19,739
Here we are...
901
00:49:20,696 --> 00:49:25,136
...on the ITU.
902
00:49:25,179 --> 00:49:28,791
Possibly the worst week
of my life.
903
00:49:29,749 --> 00:49:31,577
Hi, Mum.
904
00:49:37,104 --> 00:49:39,889
So we got green-lit.
905
00:49:39,933 --> 00:49:41,848
Then I had to just
drop everything.
906
00:49:41,891 --> 00:49:43,719
I couldn't think about Dr. King.
907
00:49:43,763 --> 00:49:46,505
I couldn't think about eating
in order to gain,
908
00:49:46,548 --> 00:49:48,202
gain the weight.
909
00:49:48,246 --> 00:49:49,508
This thing that
910
00:49:49,551 --> 00:49:52,032
had been a seven-year
dream journey,
911
00:49:52,076 --> 00:49:53,991
I could feel it slipping
through my fingers.
912
00:49:54,034 --> 00:49:57,516
And I was doing anything
and everything
913
00:49:57,559 --> 00:50:00,475
but preparing to play Dr. King.
914
00:50:01,259 --> 00:50:04,305
My dad was a-a mess.
915
00:50:04,349 --> 00:50:05,567
My brothers were lost.
916
00:50:05,611 --> 00:50:07,439
I was lost.
917
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,051
My mum is...
918
00:50:11,095 --> 00:50:14,620
the glue in our family.
She just is.
919
00:50:14,663 --> 00:50:18,841
God is in control,
as my mum always says.
920
00:50:21,366 --> 00:50:23,585
We shall overcome.
921
00:50:25,631 --> 00:50:31,637
♪ We shall overcome ♪
922
00:50:32,812 --> 00:50:36,642
♪ We shall overcome ♪
923
00:50:39,427 --> 00:50:44,650
♪ We shall overcome ♪
924
00:50:44,693 --> 00:50:50,438
♪ Today ♪
925
00:50:50,482 --> 00:50:53,789
I believe. In my heart.
926
00:50:54,660 --> 00:50:57,619
♪ I believe ♪
927
00:50:58,490 --> 00:51:00,753
♪ We shall... ♪
928
00:51:06,715 --> 00:51:12,547
What God said about me
doing this role...
929
00:51:14,027 --> 00:51:15,898
Um...
930
00:51:15,942 --> 00:51:20,120
outside of my own control
is, uh...
931
00:51:20,164 --> 00:51:21,382
very true.
932
00:51:21,426 --> 00:51:26,257
I didn't quite expect it
to be this, though.
933
00:51:31,088 --> 00:51:33,046
We were moving house the day
934
00:51:33,090 --> 00:51:37,181
my mum had a brain hemorrhage
and slipped into a coma.
935
00:51:37,224 --> 00:51:40,575
I had to drop everything,
leave Jess with the kids
936
00:51:40,619 --> 00:51:42,055
and fly back to London.
937
00:51:42,099 --> 00:51:44,231
I had to sell
my parents' business,
938
00:51:44,275 --> 00:51:45,885
clean and rent out their house,
939
00:51:45,928 --> 00:51:48,105
and forget about preparing
to play Dr. King
940
00:51:48,148 --> 00:51:51,412
with only a few days left
before shooting would begin.
941
00:51:51,456 --> 00:51:56,200
She had prayed this film into
existence more than anyone else.
942
00:51:56,983 --> 00:51:59,377
But to do it,
I had to leave her.
943
00:51:59,420 --> 00:52:01,857
She was still in a coma
in intensive care
944
00:52:01,901 --> 00:52:03,250
when I flew back to the U.S.
945
00:52:03,294 --> 00:52:06,297
to finish my prep
to play this man
946
00:52:06,340 --> 00:52:09,865
who was feeling more present
with me every passing day.
947
00:52:09,909 --> 00:52:13,695
I felt like death was
constantly around me.
948
00:52:13,739 --> 00:52:16,307
Though things go wrong,
949
00:52:16,350 --> 00:52:22,139
though sickness comes
and the cross looms,
950
00:52:22,182 --> 00:52:23,836
nevertheless!
951
00:52:23,879 --> 00:52:27,405
You ought to have
some great faith
952
00:52:27,448 --> 00:52:31,235
that grips you so much
you will never give it up.
953
00:52:33,454 --> 00:52:36,631
I've dreamt about,
954
00:52:36,675 --> 00:52:40,244
daydreamed about...
955
00:52:40,287 --> 00:52:44,117
longed for, um,
956
00:52:44,161 --> 00:52:46,902
agonized over
957
00:52:46,946 --> 00:52:49,905
whether or not it will happen--
958
00:52:49,949 --> 00:52:51,994
the first day of shooting.
959
00:52:52,038 --> 00:52:54,997
But I feel ready
and that I'm very happy
960
00:52:55,041 --> 00:52:57,826
to be able to say that--
I feel relaxed.
961
00:52:58,697 --> 00:53:03,136
I really feel God's hand on it.
962
00:53:06,574 --> 00:53:08,272
Um...
963
00:53:09,795 --> 00:53:11,971
Yeah, I feel ready.
964
00:53:13,799 --> 00:53:15,627
Let's do it.
965
00:53:18,369 --> 00:53:19,631
Yes.
966
00:53:21,981 --> 00:53:24,244
It's nice you're here.
967
00:53:24,288 --> 00:53:25,637
Thanks.
968
00:53:39,433 --> 00:53:44,177
♪ Hallelujah ♪
969
00:53:44,221 --> 00:53:49,226
♪ Yeah, hallelujah,
thank you, Jesus...♪
970
00:53:52,229 --> 00:53:56,015
My Father, my heavenly Father,
come before me.
971
00:53:56,798 --> 00:54:01,803
Pray that every word I utter,
every word, to Your glory.
972
00:54:05,416 --> 00:54:07,374
Thank you, Father.
973
00:54:07,418 --> 00:54:09,681
Okay.
974
00:54:10,682 --> 00:54:15,469
♪ I know the storm inside
is on its way over...♪
975
00:54:15,513 --> 00:54:19,038
It's special,
a very special day.
976
00:54:21,693 --> 00:54:24,086
It wasn't this hot
in March of 1965.
977
00:54:24,130 --> 00:54:26,306
So, you got to help me
fake it and act
978
00:54:26,350 --> 00:54:28,613
like it's
a beautiful breeze, right?
979
00:54:28,656 --> 00:54:29,614
Even though it's very hot.
980
00:54:29,657 --> 00:54:32,399
And action.
981
00:54:33,835 --> 00:54:35,750
Perfect.
982
00:54:35,794 --> 00:54:37,491
♪ I got to tell you
one more thing now...♪
983
00:54:39,537 --> 00:54:41,495
♪ Some time ago ♪
984
00:54:41,539 --> 00:54:43,367
♪ Some time back there ♪
985
00:54:46,370 --> 00:54:49,329
♪ Never, no, I won't cry ♪
986
00:54:49,373 --> 00:54:52,506
♪ I know the storm
is passing over ♪
987
00:54:52,550 --> 00:54:55,030
♪ I know, I know. ♪
988
00:54:55,074 --> 00:54:56,989
All I had pictured...
989
00:54:58,295 --> 00:55:02,908
The first day of shooting,
being, was very emotional and...
990
00:55:03,691 --> 00:55:05,867
...full of relief.
991
00:55:05,911 --> 00:55:08,870
And, uh, you know,
the moment where
992
00:55:08,914 --> 00:55:11,917
we all got
to pray together, and...
993
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,050
remind ourselves
of the fact that, um,
994
00:55:15,094 --> 00:55:18,227
this has to be
an act of service.
995
00:55:18,271 --> 00:55:21,666
That was, uh, that was emotional
996
00:55:21,709 --> 00:55:24,233
and that was very meaningful.
997
00:55:24,277 --> 00:55:28,194
It set the tone in a sense,
998
00:55:28,237 --> 00:55:29,935
for what this should be.
999
00:55:29,978 --> 00:55:33,373
And I-- and I truly believe
after yesterday's shooting,
1000
00:55:33,417 --> 00:55:35,244
that is what this
is going to be.
1001
00:55:35,288 --> 00:55:37,159
You know, my fear
has always been
1002
00:55:37,203 --> 00:55:39,814
that there would be
this crippling...
1003
00:55:39,858 --> 00:55:41,773
uh...
1004
00:55:41,816 --> 00:55:45,298
sense of worthiness, and...
1005
00:55:47,126 --> 00:55:50,042
...you know, we're doing
something very important,
1006
00:55:50,085 --> 00:55:52,784
which I-I do believe we are.
1007
00:55:52,827 --> 00:55:54,351
But if you do it in that spirit,
1008
00:55:54,394 --> 00:55:57,789
it's going to be too heavy
and probably unwatchable.
1009
00:55:58,833 --> 00:56:00,400
Day two now.
1010
00:56:02,141 --> 00:56:03,795
♪ Mmm, mmm ♪
1011
00:56:03,838 --> 00:56:08,495
♪ Ain't no hill too high
that you can't climb ♪
1012
00:56:08,539 --> 00:56:09,757
Action.
1013
00:56:09,801 --> 00:56:11,411
♪ Just now getting started ♪
1014
00:56:11,455 --> 00:56:13,282
♪ Mmm, yeah, it's your time ♪
1015
00:56:13,326 --> 00:56:15,937
♪ It's time to take it ♪
1016
00:56:15,981 --> 00:56:17,286
♪ More than what they see ♪
1017
00:56:17,330 --> 00:56:20,115
♪ Mmm, gotta finish strong ♪
1018
00:56:20,159 --> 00:56:22,509
♪ It's your destiny ♪
1019
00:56:24,163 --> 00:56:27,645
♪ I got it, I got it, I got it ♪
1020
00:56:28,428 --> 00:56:30,212
♪ Oh, I see it, I see it,
I see it...♪
1021
00:56:30,256 --> 00:56:31,475
Action!
1022
00:56:33,955 --> 00:56:36,393
♪ Mmm, I feel it,
I feel it, I feel it ♪
1023
00:56:37,219 --> 00:56:39,613
♪ Yeah, go get it,
go get it, go get it ♪
1024
00:56:39,657 --> 00:56:42,137
♪ Mmm, mmm ♪
1025
00:56:42,181 --> 00:56:44,662
♪ Mmm, mmm-mm ♪
1026
00:56:44,705 --> 00:56:46,185
♪ Mmm, mmm ♪
1027
00:56:46,228 --> 00:56:49,188
♪ Mmm, mmm-mm ♪
1028
00:56:49,231 --> 00:56:50,755
♪ Mmm, mmm ♪
1029
00:56:50,798 --> 00:56:52,974
♪ Mmm, mmm-mm ♪
1030
00:56:53,018 --> 00:56:55,150
♪ Mmm, mmm ♪
1031
00:56:55,194 --> 00:56:57,631
♪ Yeah, yeah ♪
1032
00:56:59,459 --> 00:57:01,809
♪ I got it, I got it,
I got it ♪
1033
00:57:01,853 --> 00:57:04,290
♪ Victory ♪
1034
00:57:04,333 --> 00:57:06,988
♪ Oh, I see it, I see it,
I see it.♪
1035
00:57:16,345 --> 00:57:18,565
We have not fought
only for the right
1036
00:57:18,609 --> 00:57:23,309
to sit where we please and go
to school where we please.
1037
00:57:23,352 --> 00:57:25,833
We do not only strive here today
1038
00:57:25,877 --> 00:57:28,488
to vote as we please.
1039
00:57:30,403 --> 00:57:33,145
- But we know the truth.
1040
00:57:33,188 --> 00:57:34,755
We know the truth,
1041
00:57:34,799 --> 00:57:38,933
and we will go forward
to that truth, to freedom.
1042
00:57:48,900 --> 00:57:53,861
Today is the day that the
Civil Rights Act went into law.
1043
00:57:53,905 --> 00:57:56,211
Fitting day to end.
1044
00:57:57,561 --> 00:58:01,216
I have envisaged this day
for so many years.
1045
00:58:01,260 --> 00:58:03,218
Seven years to be precise.
1046
00:58:03,262 --> 00:58:07,701
And you all have worked so hard.
1047
00:58:07,745 --> 00:58:09,311
I have never been on a set
1048
00:58:09,355 --> 00:58:12,053
where there's been this much
dedication,
1049
00:58:12,097 --> 00:58:14,403
this much going the extra mile,
1050
00:58:14,447 --> 00:58:19,713
this much beauty
and service to a film.
1051
00:58:19,757 --> 00:58:22,150
And what has happened is
1052
00:58:22,194 --> 00:58:25,676
the most beautiful experience
of my life,
1053
00:58:25,719 --> 00:58:27,982
outside of getting married
to my wife and my children.
1054
00:58:31,595 --> 00:58:34,554
We pray for healing
over this nation.
1055
00:58:34,598 --> 00:58:37,165
The pain that
has been brought about
1056
00:58:37,209 --> 00:58:40,995
through ignorance,
uh, inequality.
1057
00:58:41,039 --> 00:58:44,259
We just pray, Father God, that
what we have learned as people
1058
00:58:44,303 --> 00:58:46,566
on this film we will take
out into the world
1059
00:58:46,610 --> 00:58:48,525
and our film will do the same.
1060
00:58:48,568 --> 00:58:50,091
We thank you for our families,
1061
00:58:50,135 --> 00:58:51,745
those who have
not seen us for a while.
1062
00:58:51,789 --> 00:58:54,226
We pray that we will go back
to them and be able
1063
00:58:54,269 --> 00:58:56,358
to hug them better
than we did before.
1064
00:58:56,402 --> 00:58:57,751
Have more love
than we did before
1065
00:58:57,795 --> 00:58:59,536
because of this experience.
1066
00:58:59,579 --> 00:59:02,408
Thank you so much, dear God,
for being present with us,
1067
00:59:02,451 --> 00:59:05,324
for keeping us, and I truly
believe for helping us
1068
00:59:05,367 --> 00:59:07,935
create beauty that
is going to bless the world.
1069
00:59:07,979 --> 00:59:09,937
We thank you so much!
1070
00:59:09,981 --> 00:59:12,331
Amen!
1071
00:59:15,029 --> 00:59:17,641
David, not even born
in this country,
1072
00:59:17,684 --> 00:59:20,948
actually born
of a name that says
1073
00:59:20,992 --> 00:59:22,515
"You're supposed to be a king."
1074
00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:26,084
You know, Oyelowo means
"a king deserves respect."
1075
00:59:26,127 --> 00:59:28,129
Oyelowo,
the king deserves respect.
1076
00:59:28,173 --> 00:59:33,961
♪ Eyes open, stay wholly ♪
1077
00:59:34,005 --> 00:59:38,836
♪ On and on and on ♪
1078
00:59:38,879 --> 00:59:42,230
♪ Stay open. ♪
1079
00:59:47,409 --> 00:59:49,498
But when I watch it, I...
1080
00:59:51,370 --> 00:59:53,067
So strange, because I...
1081
00:59:54,982 --> 00:59:57,681
I don't see any work, I just...
1082
00:59:59,204 --> 01:00:00,727
I just see...
1083
01:00:02,207 --> 01:00:03,774
Um...
1084
01:00:03,817 --> 01:00:06,603
I just see truth, and I see...
1085
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,737
...a familial effort and, uh...
1086
01:00:12,870 --> 01:00:16,525
...so much love, so much...
1087
01:00:16,569 --> 01:00:18,005
pain.
1088
01:00:18,049 --> 01:00:21,182
Um, I don't see myself,
1089
01:00:21,226 --> 01:00:25,317
which is strange, but, um...
1090
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:29,234
It's all on-screen, my dear.
1091
01:00:30,409 --> 01:00:35,022
Every sleepless night,
every... dream,
1092
01:00:35,066 --> 01:00:37,546
every ounce of your talent,
1093
01:00:37,590 --> 01:00:41,289
it's all on there,
it's beautiful.
1094
01:00:41,333 --> 01:00:44,205
No one can ever
take this away from us.
1095
01:00:44,249 --> 01:00:46,338
No matter what happens.
1096
01:00:48,122 --> 01:00:49,297
God has...
1097
01:00:49,341 --> 01:00:51,691
God has enabled us to
1098
01:00:51,735 --> 01:00:55,260
make something beautiful
out of so much pain.
1099
01:00:57,610 --> 01:01:01,570
I just pray that
people will see...
1100
01:01:01,614 --> 01:01:03,442
the heart of it.
1101
01:01:04,661 --> 01:01:07,228
It's just a...
It's just a call for justice,
1102
01:01:07,272 --> 01:01:10,101
a call for love,
a call for change.
1103
01:01:11,189 --> 01:01:12,581
And it is lovingly done.
1104
01:01:12,625 --> 01:01:16,977
It's in the spirit
of sacrificial love
1105
01:01:17,021 --> 01:01:19,850
that Jesus called for,
1106
01:01:19,893 --> 01:01:21,939
that Dr. King followed in.
1107
01:01:21,982 --> 01:01:24,245
We are part of that
lineage with this film.
1108
01:01:24,289 --> 01:01:26,595
I don't care what anyone says.
1109
01:01:33,167 --> 01:01:36,475
My wife felt God say
that she should buy a camera
1110
01:01:36,518 --> 01:01:38,869
and film my journey
into playing Dr. King,
1111
01:01:38,912 --> 01:01:43,830
turn it into a documentary
and call it Becoming King.
1112
01:01:43,874 --> 01:01:45,571
It was bizarre.
1113
01:01:45,614 --> 01:01:47,704
She had never even considered
1114
01:01:47,747 --> 01:01:49,531
making a documentary before,
1115
01:01:49,575 --> 01:01:52,186
but she researched cameras,
took some classes
1116
01:01:52,230 --> 01:01:54,449
and started shooting,
interviewing and editing.
1117
01:01:54,493 --> 01:01:58,410
No matter whatever difficulties,
1118
01:01:58,453 --> 01:02:01,326
we shall overcome it.
1119
01:02:01,369 --> 01:02:03,197
And it has happened.
1120
01:02:03,241 --> 01:02:04,721
The sky is the limit.
1121
01:02:04,764 --> 01:02:08,507
We are talking now
about the summit.
1122
01:02:09,551 --> 01:02:13,077
Because as if there are
greater things to come.
1123
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:17,124
We have seen powerful white men
1124
01:02:17,168 --> 01:02:19,997
rule the world while offering
1125
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:24,436
poor white men
a vicious lie as placation.
1126
01:02:24,479 --> 01:02:27,831
And when the poor
white man's children
1127
01:02:27,874 --> 01:02:32,226
wail with a hunger
that cannot be satisfied,
1128
01:02:32,270 --> 01:02:35,969
he feeds them
that same vicious lie.
1129
01:02:36,013 --> 01:02:39,451
A lie whispering to them
1130
01:02:39,494 --> 01:02:42,410
that regardless
of their lot in life,
1131
01:02:42,454 --> 01:02:46,197
they can at least be
triumphant in the knowledge
1132
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,416
that their whiteness
1133
01:02:48,460 --> 01:02:51,855
makes them superior
to Blackness.
1134
01:02:51,898 --> 01:02:53,813
But we know the truth.
1135
01:02:55,032 --> 01:02:56,511
We know the truth,
1136
01:02:56,555 --> 01:02:59,210
and we will go forward
to that truth,
1137
01:02:59,253 --> 01:03:00,515
to freedom.
1138
01:03:03,301 --> 01:03:05,477
We will not be stopped.
1139
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:07,914
When will we be free?
1140
01:03:07,958 --> 01:03:10,351
Soon. And very soon.
1141
01:03:10,395 --> 01:03:14,225
Because mine eyes
have seen the glory
1142
01:03:14,268 --> 01:03:15,966
of the coming of the Lord.
1143
01:03:16,009 --> 01:03:18,359
He is trampling on the vintage
1144
01:03:18,403 --> 01:03:20,535
Where the grapes of wrath
are stored.
1145
01:03:20,579 --> 01:03:22,537
He has loosed the faithful
lightning
1146
01:03:22,581 --> 01:03:24,844
of his terrible swift sword.
1147
01:03:24,888 --> 01:03:26,672
His truth is marching on.
1148
01:03:26,715 --> 01:03:31,242
Glory hallelujah.
Glory hallelujah.
1149
01:03:31,285 --> 01:03:33,592
Glory hallelujah.
1150
01:03:33,635 --> 01:03:37,248
His truth is marching on.
1151
01:03:38,292 --> 01:03:42,644
♪ Who said it would be easy? ♪
1152
01:03:42,688 --> 01:03:44,908
♪ It's a long, long road... ♪
1153
01:03:44,951 --> 01:03:46,997
Dr. King prayed
that God would use him
1154
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,869
for a purpose
greater than himself.
1155
01:03:49,913 --> 01:03:52,785
He was immeasurably so.
1156
01:03:52,829 --> 01:03:56,049
Having spent time with the king
of the Civil Rights Movement,
1157
01:03:56,093 --> 01:03:59,400
I know for certain I couldn't
have done what he did.
1158
01:03:59,444 --> 01:04:03,840
I just played a role and tried
to honor him as best I could.
1159
01:04:04,710 --> 01:04:06,886
♪ Long, long night
and I'm so scared ♪
1160
01:04:06,930 --> 01:04:09,715
♪ Takes a long, long time
to say my prayers...♪
1161
01:04:09,758 --> 01:04:12,892
I've learned a lot
and lost much.
1162
01:04:12,936 --> 01:04:15,634
Both of my parents
have now passed away.
1163
01:04:15,677 --> 01:04:18,419
♪ Get up, shake it off... ♪
1164
01:04:18,463 --> 01:04:22,249
My mother never recovered and
remained in a vegetative state
1165
01:04:22,293 --> 01:04:24,861
until she passed away in 2017,
1166
01:04:24,904 --> 01:04:27,559
three years
after her hemorrhage.
1167
01:04:28,690 --> 01:04:31,215
♪ Made the rules
for this wicked game...♪
1168
01:04:31,258 --> 01:04:34,218
My father succumbed
to the colon cancer
1169
01:04:34,261 --> 01:04:38,048
that had unknowingly grown
while he nursed my mother.
1170
01:04:38,091 --> 01:04:39,876
I miss them.
1171
01:04:39,919 --> 01:04:42,052
♪ The truth cannot
be bought or sold...♪
1172
01:04:42,095 --> 01:04:45,011
As Dr. King once prayed,
1173
01:04:45,055 --> 01:04:46,534
"Use me, God,
1174
01:04:46,578 --> 01:04:48,928
"show me how to take who I am,
1175
01:04:48,972 --> 01:04:52,279
"who I want to be
and what I can do
1176
01:04:52,323 --> 01:04:56,153
and use it for a purpose
greater than myself."
1177
01:04:56,196 --> 01:04:57,937
♪ Because there's more to go,
I said ♪
1178
01:04:57,981 --> 01:05:02,855
♪ Who said it would be easy? ♪
1179
01:05:02,899 --> 01:05:05,902
♪ But we can't stop now ♪
1180
01:05:05,945 --> 01:05:08,861
♪ Don't look back
because there's more to go ♪
1181
01:05:29,882 --> 01:05:32,580
♪ Long, long days
and cold, hard nights ♪
1182
01:05:32,624 --> 01:05:35,322
♪ Lost inside
but I see a light ♪
1183
01:05:35,366 --> 01:05:38,021
♪ In the distance far away ♪
1184
01:05:38,064 --> 01:05:40,849
♪ Once I get on my knees,
I pray ♪
1185
01:05:40,893 --> 01:05:43,635
♪ Help me keep on keeping on ♪
1186
01:05:43,678 --> 01:05:46,420
♪ Help me, I know
I can be strong ♪
1187
01:05:46,464 --> 01:05:48,118
♪ Don't know which way to go ♪
1188
01:05:48,161 --> 01:05:51,338
♪ But I got a long road
and a ways to go ♪
1189
01:05:51,382 --> 01:05:56,343
♪ Who said it would be easy? ♪
1190
01:05:56,387 --> 01:05:59,129
♪ It's a long, long road ♪
1191
01:05:59,172 --> 01:06:01,435
♪ Don't look back
because there's more to go ♪
1192
01:06:01,479 --> 01:06:07,572
♪ I said, who said
it would be easy?♪
1193
01:06:07,615 --> 01:06:09,835
♪ But we can't stop now ♪
1194
01:06:09,878 --> 01:06:14,883
♪ Don't look back
because there's more to go.♪
92543
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