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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,805 --> 00:00:07,574 [geese honking] 2 00:00:07,574 --> 00:00:09,042 NARRATOR: An enormous freight train 3 00:00:09,042 --> 00:00:14,681 is out of control, tearing through the Canadian Rockies. 4 00:00:14,681 --> 00:00:18,618 The crew does nothing to slow the train's terrifying speed. 5 00:00:18,618 --> 00:00:19,552 Jack, are you there? 6 00:00:19,552 --> 00:00:20,720 [ominous music] 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:22,288 NARRATOR: Charging the other way, 8 00:00:22,288 --> 00:00:26,192 a passenger train with more than 100 people on board. 9 00:00:26,192 --> 00:00:28,661 [train horn blaring] 10 00:00:28,661 --> 00:00:32,165 [train clacking] 11 00:00:34,167 --> 00:00:35,668 Front end, Jack, come in. 12 00:00:38,271 --> 00:00:39,072 Oh, my god. 13 00:00:42,008 --> 00:00:43,209 CONDUCTOR: Mayday, mayday. 14 00:00:43,209 --> 00:00:46,212 We're doing 90 miles an hour, out of control. 15 00:00:46,212 --> 00:00:48,148 [train horn blaring] 16 00:00:48,148 --> 00:00:50,116 [shrieking] 17 00:00:50,116 --> 00:00:51,885 SHIP STEWARD: Take a life jacket! 18 00:00:51,885 --> 00:00:52,986 CAPTAIN: Where's the Coast Guard? 19 00:00:52,986 --> 00:00:53,953 SHIP STEWARD: Don't let go! 20 00:00:53,953 --> 00:00:55,422 [electrical pop] 21 00:00:55,422 --> 00:00:56,389 MAN: He's gonna crash! 22 00:00:59,826 --> 00:01:01,795 [dramatic music] 23 00:01:01,795 --> 00:01:05,231 [train horn blaring] 24 00:01:07,667 --> 00:01:10,003 NARRATOR: It's one of the most spectacular train rides 25 00:01:10,003 --> 00:01:12,105 in the world. 26 00:01:12,105 --> 00:01:15,074 Every year, thousands of people take the slow route 27 00:01:15,074 --> 00:01:17,977 through Canada's Rocky Mountains. 28 00:01:17,977 --> 00:01:20,013 Avoiding traffic, they take the train 29 00:01:20,013 --> 00:01:22,081 and leave the driving to somebody else. 30 00:01:24,717 --> 00:01:29,022 In late winter 1986, a gentle trip to the Rockies 31 00:01:29,022 --> 00:01:30,657 will end tragically. 32 00:01:30,657 --> 00:01:33,626 [ominous music] 33 00:01:33,626 --> 00:01:37,096 [screaming] 34 00:01:37,096 --> 00:01:40,333 It was like a mini atom bomb. 35 00:01:40,333 --> 00:01:42,068 And all of a sudden, it ignited. 36 00:01:42,068 --> 00:01:42,936 Woof! 37 00:01:42,936 --> 00:01:46,272 [screaming] 38 00:01:47,207 --> 00:01:48,508 I'm gonna help you. 39 00:01:48,508 --> 00:01:53,279 JAMES HEYD: I can hear the women screaming, you know-- 40 00:01:53,279 --> 00:01:54,614 [somber music] 41 00:01:54,614 --> 00:01:55,915 --to save her baby. 42 00:02:01,087 --> 00:02:03,890 NARRATOR: An investigation makes shocking discoveries about 43 00:02:03,890 --> 00:02:06,926 the Canadian railroad industry. 44 00:02:06,926 --> 00:02:10,897 At that time, I didn't think that anything was wrong. 45 00:02:10,897 --> 00:02:13,700 [ominous music] 46 00:02:13,700 --> 00:02:16,269 NARRATOR: February 8, 1986. 47 00:02:16,269 --> 00:02:18,438 Spectacular northern lights dance 48 00:02:18,438 --> 00:02:21,608 across the sky over Edson, Alberta in Western Canada. 49 00:02:21,608 --> 00:02:24,010 [train horn blaring] 50 00:02:24,010 --> 00:02:26,713 [folk music] 51 00:02:28,114 --> 00:02:30,383 NARRATOR: Driving freight trains has been the lifelong ambition 52 00:02:30,383 --> 00:02:34,020 of 48-year-old Canadian National Railways engineer Jack Hudson. 53 00:02:37,290 --> 00:02:41,194 But after 16 years on the job, he knows all too well that it 54 00:02:41,194 --> 00:02:44,430 can be a grueling career. 55 00:02:44,430 --> 00:02:48,167 Because Canadian freight trains travel such vast distances, 56 00:02:48,167 --> 00:02:51,037 up to 12 local crews may be used in the course 57 00:02:51,037 --> 00:02:53,439 of one cross-country journey. 58 00:02:53,439 --> 00:02:55,575 Hudson works a mountainous stretch of track 59 00:02:55,575 --> 00:02:58,511 through Alberta running between his hometown of Jasper 60 00:02:58,511 --> 00:02:59,879 and Edson to the east. 61 00:02:59,879 --> 00:03:02,515 [instrumental music] 62 00:03:05,818 --> 00:03:08,955 Like many trainmen, Hudson works a regular beat, 63 00:03:08,955 --> 00:03:10,957 driving the same stretch of track, 64 00:03:10,957 --> 00:03:14,160 then turning around again with another train day after day. 65 00:03:16,963 --> 00:03:20,600 At around 11 PM last night, Hudson got off a freight train 66 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,837 from Jasper and spent the night here in the company bunkhouse 67 00:03:24,837 --> 00:03:25,638 at Edson. 68 00:03:29,108 --> 00:03:33,246 Now he's up again, after just 3 and 1/2 hours of sleep, 69 00:03:33,246 --> 00:03:34,380 to return to Jasper. 70 00:03:41,287 --> 00:03:44,223 At the station, he's joined by his brakeman. 71 00:03:44,223 --> 00:03:48,194 Like Hudson, 25-year-old Mark Edwards lives in Jasper. 72 00:03:48,194 --> 00:03:51,097 And like Hudson, he hasn't slept very much. 73 00:03:51,097 --> 00:03:51,898 [sniffles] 74 00:03:51,898 --> 00:03:53,600 Did you get some rest? 75 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:54,667 Not much. 76 00:03:54,667 --> 00:03:56,536 Got a touch the flu. 77 00:03:56,536 --> 00:03:58,137 Could use a full night's sleep. 78 00:03:58,137 --> 00:03:59,172 [sniffles] 79 00:03:59,172 --> 00:04:00,473 NARRATOR: Hudson and Edwards will ride 80 00:04:00,473 --> 00:04:02,542 up front in the first engine. 81 00:04:02,542 --> 00:04:04,644 Hudson drives the train, while Edwards 82 00:04:04,644 --> 00:04:06,479 keeps his eye on the brakes and pitches 83 00:04:06,479 --> 00:04:10,650 in if Hudson needs any help. 84 00:04:10,650 --> 00:04:12,585 Known to his fellow railmen as Smitty, 85 00:04:12,585 --> 00:04:15,989 33-year-old Wayne Smith is Hudson's conductor. 86 00:04:15,989 --> 00:04:19,125 He's the last of the three-man crew in charge of the freight 87 00:04:19,125 --> 00:04:20,259 train this morning. 88 00:04:20,259 --> 00:04:21,060 Smitty. 89 00:04:23,863 --> 00:04:25,565 NARRATOR: Smith rides in the caboose, 90 00:04:25,565 --> 00:04:27,634 the last car in the train. 91 00:04:27,634 --> 00:04:30,236 He acts as an extra set of eyes, making 92 00:04:30,236 --> 00:04:32,205 sure the men in the front end know 93 00:04:32,205 --> 00:04:35,308 what's going on behind them. 94 00:04:35,308 --> 00:04:38,611 The three are longtime employees of Canadian National, 95 00:04:38,611 --> 00:04:41,247 or CN, rail, and all of them have 96 00:04:41,247 --> 00:04:44,450 been up and down this length of track countless times before. 97 00:04:47,086 --> 00:04:48,454 [train bell rings] 98 00:04:48,454 --> 00:04:51,357 The train they are riding today is enormous. 99 00:04:51,357 --> 00:04:54,594 CN Train 413 is more than a mile long. 100 00:04:54,594 --> 00:04:55,962 [brakes screeching] 101 00:04:55,962 --> 00:05:00,133 Its cars are filled with grain, metal pipes, and chemicals. 102 00:05:00,133 --> 00:05:06,005 It tips the scales at more than 12,000 tons. 103 00:05:06,005 --> 00:05:07,974 As the freighter rolls into Edson, 104 00:05:07,974 --> 00:05:11,010 it slows but doesn't stop. 105 00:05:11,010 --> 00:05:13,346 Getting it started again would take time, 106 00:05:13,346 --> 00:05:17,984 and the crew wants to get home as soon as possible. 107 00:05:17,984 --> 00:05:21,054 Hudson and Edwards take the train on the fly, 108 00:05:21,054 --> 00:05:24,824 boarding it as it rolls along. 109 00:05:24,824 --> 00:05:28,394 According to CN Rail's code of conduct, this is illegal, 110 00:05:28,394 --> 00:05:32,465 but it's something crews do routinely. 111 00:05:32,465 --> 00:05:33,266 See you. 112 00:05:33,266 --> 00:05:36,135 [door latch clunking] 113 00:05:39,338 --> 00:05:40,139 All set. 114 00:05:40,139 --> 00:05:41,274 Jack. 115 00:05:41,274 --> 00:05:43,443 Clear signal leaving Edson. 116 00:05:43,443 --> 00:05:46,179 [sniffles] 117 00:05:46,179 --> 00:05:47,613 Clear signal leaving Edson. 118 00:05:47,613 --> 00:05:49,582 [radio squelch] 119 00:05:49,582 --> 00:05:51,117 NARRATOR: A key part of Smith's job 120 00:05:51,117 --> 00:05:53,052 is to stay in touch with the front end 121 00:05:53,052 --> 00:05:55,254 of the train to make sure the crew stays 122 00:05:55,254 --> 00:05:56,389 alert throughout the journey. 123 00:06:04,263 --> 00:06:06,966 When the caboose pulls alongside the platform, 124 00:06:06,966 --> 00:06:09,335 Smith climbs aboard. 125 00:06:09,335 --> 00:06:12,605 [melancholy music] 126 00:06:14,507 --> 00:06:16,576 OK, he's got the brakes off. 127 00:06:16,576 --> 00:06:18,044 You're good to go. 128 00:06:18,044 --> 00:06:18,845 See you later. 129 00:06:23,015 --> 00:06:27,019 NARRATOR: At 6:40 AM, Hudson pushes the throttle. 130 00:06:27,019 --> 00:06:30,690 The freight train picks up speed as its 8,000 horsepower diesel 131 00:06:30,690 --> 00:06:33,159 engines open up. 132 00:06:33,159 --> 00:06:37,663 The CN freight train begins the long haul west to Jasper. 133 00:06:37,663 --> 00:06:38,965 The men are going home. 134 00:06:44,737 --> 00:06:48,508 As 413 roars west, a Via passenger train 135 00:06:48,508 --> 00:06:50,576 speeds east on the same track. 136 00:06:50,576 --> 00:06:53,946 [ominous music] 137 00:06:57,817 --> 00:07:00,653 NARRATOR: Via Rail's Super Continental passenger train No. 138 00:07:00,653 --> 00:07:03,856 4 is heading to Edmonton, Alberta. 139 00:07:03,856 --> 00:07:06,659 [joyful music] 140 00:07:07,660 --> 00:07:09,729 More than 100 passengers are enjoying 141 00:07:09,729 --> 00:07:12,431 the spectacular scenery of the rugged Canadian Rockies. 142 00:07:16,402 --> 00:07:19,372 36-year-old Jamie Heyd is an auto worker. 143 00:07:19,372 --> 00:07:21,774 He's returning to his home in Ontario 144 00:07:21,774 --> 00:07:24,911 after a two-week visit with family in Vancouver. 145 00:07:24,911 --> 00:07:26,913 It's a very, very small community 146 00:07:26,913 --> 00:07:30,817 that you're in close proximity with a lot of people 147 00:07:30,817 --> 00:07:33,319 very, very suddenly, and so there's 148 00:07:33,319 --> 00:07:36,956 a lot of people we got to meet and got to interact with. 149 00:07:36,956 --> 00:07:40,059 I remember there was a couple of ladies that we-- 150 00:07:40,059 --> 00:07:41,460 that we met over dinner. 151 00:07:41,460 --> 00:07:44,564 One was-- was very, very pregnant. 152 00:07:44,564 --> 00:07:46,866 NARRATOR: While some passengers are still sleeping, 153 00:07:46,866 --> 00:07:48,801 Heyd goes into the day coach to do 154 00:07:48,801 --> 00:07:51,003 some reading before breakfast. 155 00:07:51,003 --> 00:07:52,939 It's the fourth car in the train. 156 00:07:52,939 --> 00:07:54,907 JAMES HEYD: I remember this, uh, this lady, 157 00:07:54,907 --> 00:07:57,276 and she had a little boy with her, 158 00:07:57,276 --> 00:07:59,111 about three years old or whatever. 159 00:07:59,111 --> 00:08:00,313 He was quite in awe. 160 00:08:00,313 --> 00:08:03,916 The little child was quite in awe of the scenery. 161 00:08:03,916 --> 00:08:06,652 So I sat down and that, and I lifted the shade a little bit 162 00:08:06,652 --> 00:08:08,554 so I could get some of the daylight coming in, 163 00:08:08,554 --> 00:08:10,223 and I started to read a pocket novel. 164 00:08:10,223 --> 00:08:13,492 [joyful music] 165 00:08:18,931 --> 00:08:20,566 NARRATOR: Several cars behind Heyd 166 00:08:20,566 --> 00:08:24,237 is 61-year-old assistant conductor Herbert Timpe. 167 00:08:24,237 --> 00:08:26,772 An old hand on the Canadian passenger line, 168 00:08:26,772 --> 00:08:29,742 he's been riding this route for seven years. 169 00:08:29,742 --> 00:08:31,310 I had to be the assistant conductor 170 00:08:31,310 --> 00:08:36,282 and look after the passengers on that train. 171 00:08:36,282 --> 00:08:38,417 Next stop-- 172 00:08:38,417 --> 00:08:39,452 Hinton. 173 00:08:39,452 --> 00:08:41,287 [train bell ringing] 174 00:08:41,287 --> 00:08:44,390 NARRATOR: The passenger train is pulling into Hinton. 175 00:08:44,390 --> 00:08:46,926 The freight train is just about to reach Hargwen 176 00:08:46,926 --> 00:08:50,529 Station, 12 and 1/2 miles east. 177 00:08:50,529 --> 00:08:53,032 Here, the rail line becomes double tracked 178 00:08:53,032 --> 00:08:55,468 so trains can pass each other. 179 00:08:55,468 --> 00:08:58,504 413 will take the upper track, while the passenger 180 00:08:58,504 --> 00:09:02,441 train passes below it. 181 00:09:02,441 --> 00:09:04,944 As Hudson approaches the split in the tracks, 182 00:09:04,944 --> 00:09:07,313 signal lights tell him to slow the train down. 183 00:09:10,182 --> 00:09:13,686 Smitty, we've got an Approach Limited signal at Hargwen. 184 00:09:13,686 --> 00:09:14,820 Next station-- Dalehurst. 185 00:09:14,820 --> 00:09:15,621 Over? 186 00:09:18,591 --> 00:09:21,694 Head end of 413 Approach Limited at Hargwen. 187 00:09:21,694 --> 00:09:22,595 Next station-- Dalehurst. 188 00:09:22,595 --> 00:09:23,396 Out. 189 00:09:23,396 --> 00:09:26,165 [melancholy music] 190 00:09:27,099 --> 00:09:28,567 NARRATOR: These are the last words 191 00:09:28,567 --> 00:09:30,136 these men will ever exchange. 192 00:09:34,340 --> 00:09:36,842 A dispatcher in Edmonton sets a switch, 193 00:09:36,842 --> 00:09:39,578 and 413 is routed onto the upper track. 194 00:09:52,024 --> 00:09:56,095 The Via passenger train arrives at Hinton station at 8:20 AM. 195 00:10:04,003 --> 00:10:07,373 As breakfast is served, 61-year-old Kenneth Cuttle 196 00:10:07,373 --> 00:10:09,575 arrives in the dome car. 197 00:10:09,575 --> 00:10:12,845 Cuttle served in the war as a Royal Marine. 198 00:10:12,845 --> 00:10:13,980 KENNETH CUTTLE: It was February. 199 00:10:13,980 --> 00:10:19,185 I was going to Edmonton to look for another job. 200 00:10:19,185 --> 00:10:20,619 The train was pretty comfortable, 201 00:10:20,619 --> 00:10:22,989 you know, not many people on board. 202 00:10:22,989 --> 00:10:25,624 I said, let's go up to the dome car, 203 00:10:25,624 --> 00:10:27,827 because it was just coming light, 204 00:10:27,827 --> 00:10:30,229 and we see lots of things of which you might 205 00:10:30,229 --> 00:10:32,131 not get another chance to see. 206 00:10:32,131 --> 00:10:36,002 We were in the foothills of the Rocky Mountains. 207 00:10:36,002 --> 00:10:39,672 NARRATOR: There are now 115 people on board, 208 00:10:39,672 --> 00:10:42,742 but the train will never make it to Edmonton, 209 00:10:42,742 --> 00:10:46,112 and the passengers and crew enjoying the early morning trip 210 00:10:46,112 --> 00:10:48,080 will soon be fighting for their lives. 211 00:10:53,453 --> 00:10:55,822 NARRATOR: It's a clear, sunny morning on board a passenger 212 00:10:55,822 --> 00:10:57,691 train in Western Canada. 213 00:10:57,691 --> 00:11:00,393 Breakfast is being served as the train rolls 214 00:11:00,393 --> 00:11:03,530 east to the Canadian Rockies. 215 00:11:03,530 --> 00:11:07,901 A little over 9 miles away, a 12,000 ton freight train, 216 00:11:07,901 --> 00:11:12,439 CN 413, is rumbling toward it. 217 00:11:12,439 --> 00:11:14,674 With diesel engines running at full throttle, 218 00:11:14,674 --> 00:11:20,180 it's pulling 115 rail cars of grain and hazardous material. 219 00:11:20,180 --> 00:11:24,050 From the outside, everything looks normal. 220 00:11:24,050 --> 00:11:27,554 What's going on inside the lead engine of 413 221 00:11:27,554 --> 00:11:30,223 is about to become one of the greatest mysteries 222 00:11:30,223 --> 00:11:31,791 in Canadian railroad history. 223 00:11:35,462 --> 00:11:37,297 Freight trains and passenger trains 224 00:11:37,297 --> 00:11:39,332 often travel on the same track. 225 00:11:39,332 --> 00:11:41,601 For short sections, the tracks splits 226 00:11:41,601 --> 00:11:44,938 so trains heading in opposite directions can pass safely. 227 00:11:44,938 --> 00:11:48,942 Today, 413 is on the upper half of the loop. 228 00:11:48,942 --> 00:11:53,079 Signals tell the freight train to slow, then stop completely. 229 00:11:53,079 --> 00:11:56,583 The signals will only turn green again once the passenger train 230 00:11:56,583 --> 00:11:58,852 has passed by safely below. 231 00:11:58,852 --> 00:12:01,387 Then, the freight train can rejoin the main line. 232 00:12:05,592 --> 00:12:08,595 But 413 isn't slowing down. 233 00:12:08,595 --> 00:12:11,097 It's heading downhill, and it charges 234 00:12:11,097 --> 00:12:13,266 through the warning lights. 235 00:12:13,266 --> 00:12:15,502 If it doesn't stop soon, it will return 236 00:12:15,502 --> 00:12:19,372 to the main line at full speed, straight into the path 237 00:12:19,372 --> 00:12:22,509 of the passenger train. 238 00:12:22,509 --> 00:12:25,245 Unaware that 413 is not stopping, 239 00:12:25,245 --> 00:12:28,314 the passenger train continues east. 240 00:12:28,314 --> 00:12:31,551 [suspenseful music] 241 00:12:32,952 --> 00:12:36,189 Up ahead, the freight train thunders past the last set 242 00:12:36,189 --> 00:12:40,059 of signals, ignoring three red lights that command it to stop. 243 00:12:44,831 --> 00:12:48,401 It slams back onto the main line. 244 00:12:48,401 --> 00:12:51,337 It's traveling 60 miles an hour and weighs 245 00:12:51,337 --> 00:12:55,108 more than 12,000 tons, and it's not slowing down. 246 00:13:00,380 --> 00:13:01,781 Herbert Timpe takes a break. 247 00:13:04,450 --> 00:13:05,785 [exhales sharply] 248 00:13:05,785 --> 00:13:08,488 NARRATOR: Ken Cuttle has a clear view of the railway ahead. 249 00:13:08,488 --> 00:13:10,824 KENNETH CUTTLE: I got in a conversation 250 00:13:10,824 --> 00:13:11,858 with an English guy. 251 00:13:11,858 --> 00:13:13,793 And he had his back to the front, 252 00:13:13,793 --> 00:13:15,929 and I was looking over his shoulder, 253 00:13:15,929 --> 00:13:19,299 forward, the way the train was going. 254 00:13:19,299 --> 00:13:23,036 There was a flickering light in the distance. 255 00:13:23,036 --> 00:13:25,338 And not knowing the track layout, 256 00:13:25,338 --> 00:13:28,942 I thought, oh, they must be another line, 257 00:13:28,942 --> 00:13:32,078 and if it's another train, it's going to go past us, you know. 258 00:13:32,078 --> 00:13:33,546 [train clacking] 259 00:13:33,546 --> 00:13:37,016 [mysterious music] 260 00:13:40,954 --> 00:13:42,455 [quiet coughing] 261 00:13:55,802 --> 00:13:59,239 [distant horn blaring] 262 00:14:01,241 --> 00:14:02,275 Oh, my god. 263 00:14:02,275 --> 00:14:05,678 [gasps] Oh, my god! 264 00:14:05,678 --> 00:14:09,082 [horn growing closer] 265 00:14:09,082 --> 00:14:11,784 And then, boom. 266 00:14:11,784 --> 00:14:14,187 [train horn blaring] 267 00:14:14,187 --> 00:14:16,589 [crashing] 268 00:14:16,589 --> 00:14:19,659 [screeching] 269 00:14:20,627 --> 00:14:22,161 NARRATOR: The trains collide like two 270 00:14:22,161 --> 00:14:27,166 charging rams at a combined speed of 124 miles per hour. 271 00:14:27,166 --> 00:14:28,334 [screeching] 272 00:14:28,334 --> 00:14:30,570 Passengers are rocked by one collision 273 00:14:30,570 --> 00:14:34,974 after another, as 70 freight cars slam into the wreckage. 274 00:14:34,974 --> 00:14:38,077 Like an incoming wave, grain cars, 275 00:14:38,077 --> 00:14:42,482 long pipes three foot in diameter, 30 feet in length. 276 00:14:42,482 --> 00:14:43,683 You name it. 277 00:14:43,683 --> 00:14:47,120 And these were flying through the air like toys. 278 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,255 NARRATOR: Thrown forward by the force of the collision, 279 00:14:49,255 --> 00:14:51,457 one freight car flies through the air, 280 00:14:51,457 --> 00:14:54,093 then comes smashing down on the Via train. 281 00:14:54,093 --> 00:14:56,095 And the whole world seemed to explode. 282 00:14:56,095 --> 00:14:57,497 [glass shattering] 283 00:14:57,497 --> 00:14:59,332 [shrieking] 284 00:14:59,332 --> 00:15:01,167 It was like a mini atom bomb. 285 00:15:01,167 --> 00:15:03,503 [screaming] 286 00:15:03,503 --> 00:15:06,172 It was a big mushroom of black smoke. 287 00:15:06,172 --> 00:15:09,309 [somber music] 288 00:15:12,645 --> 00:15:15,548 Then everything was dark. 289 00:15:18,551 --> 00:15:21,421 I could no longer breathe because everything 290 00:15:21,421 --> 00:15:22,388 was filled with smoke. 291 00:15:22,388 --> 00:15:25,658 [coughing] 292 00:15:26,626 --> 00:15:29,262 Oh, I'm gonna die. 293 00:15:29,262 --> 00:15:30,530 And the third thing that happened 294 00:15:30,530 --> 00:15:33,099 was I just resigned myself to that. 295 00:15:38,304 --> 00:15:41,374 HERBERT TIMPE: I've been working about 37 years and-- 296 00:15:41,374 --> 00:15:45,078 on the railroad, and I never, never seen anything so bad. 297 00:15:45,078 --> 00:15:48,414 [ominous music] 298 00:15:48,414 --> 00:15:50,316 [groaning] 299 00:15:50,316 --> 00:15:51,784 [coughing] 300 00:15:51,784 --> 00:15:55,588 KENNETH CUTTLE: The wave of metal grain cars 301 00:15:55,588 --> 00:15:58,992 stopped just where the dome car was. 302 00:15:58,992 --> 00:16:00,727 If it had gone another 30 feet, it 303 00:16:00,727 --> 00:16:01,861 would have covered us as well. 304 00:16:07,033 --> 00:16:09,135 NARRATOR: More than a mile behind the engine, 305 00:16:09,135 --> 00:16:14,474 the caboose of Train 413 finally lurches to a stop. 306 00:16:14,474 --> 00:16:18,244 Conductor Wayne Smith sees a ball of fire in the distance, 307 00:16:18,244 --> 00:16:21,381 but he has no idea how bad the situation is. 308 00:16:21,381 --> 00:16:22,815 [panting] 309 00:16:22,815 --> 00:16:27,420 Frontend 413, I think we're in the bush or we're derailed. 310 00:16:27,420 --> 00:16:29,455 There is a big explosion up here, 311 00:16:29,455 --> 00:16:32,592 and we have chemicals on the train, so stay away from it. 312 00:16:32,592 --> 00:16:35,061 Stay away from the dangerous goods! 313 00:16:35,061 --> 00:16:38,264 [radio squelch] 314 00:16:38,264 --> 00:16:41,667 NARRATOR: But all Smith gets in reply is an ominous silence. 315 00:16:44,904 --> 00:16:47,974 Passengers struggle to escape the mangled wreck 316 00:16:47,974 --> 00:16:50,410 as the smoke thickens. 317 00:16:50,410 --> 00:16:52,311 I was trained well in the Royal Marines 318 00:16:52,311 --> 00:16:55,815 to survive and to act spontaneously. 319 00:16:55,815 --> 00:16:59,152 There was a window at the back of the dome car, 320 00:16:59,152 --> 00:17:01,854 and it was all cracked, and I just 321 00:17:01,854 --> 00:17:04,791 jumped up on the seat, smashed my head through the glass roof. 322 00:17:07,360 --> 00:17:11,631 I shouted come on let's get out! 323 00:17:11,631 --> 00:17:14,667 [coughing] 324 00:17:15,835 --> 00:17:19,005 NARRATOR: Cuttle and others jump from the car. 325 00:17:19,005 --> 00:17:22,241 And I look back, and all of a sudden it ignited. 326 00:17:22,241 --> 00:17:23,743 Woof! 327 00:17:23,743 --> 00:17:27,113 [fire crackling] 328 00:17:28,081 --> 00:17:29,048 (SOFTLY) Get up. 329 00:17:34,854 --> 00:17:38,291 [coughing] 330 00:17:38,291 --> 00:17:40,226 NARRATOR: Below, in the lounge car, 331 00:17:40,226 --> 00:17:44,263 more passengers also managed to escape, 332 00:17:44,263 --> 00:17:46,132 but others aren't so lucky. 333 00:17:46,132 --> 00:17:48,701 Many are still trapped in the burning cars, 334 00:17:48,701 --> 00:17:51,304 including passenger Jamie Heyd. 335 00:17:51,304 --> 00:17:54,207 JAMES HEYD: The roof of the coach had been crunched down, 336 00:17:54,207 --> 00:17:56,542 and I'd lost my glasses. 337 00:17:56,542 --> 00:17:57,410 I couldn't see. 338 00:17:57,410 --> 00:17:58,945 I couldn't breathe. 339 00:17:58,945 --> 00:18:00,480 And here it was the porter that had 340 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:05,318 been behind the snack bar had opened up this-- this exit way. 341 00:18:05,318 --> 00:18:08,321 And he had vamoosed out through it, 342 00:18:08,321 --> 00:18:10,957 and I took off out behind it too. 343 00:18:10,957 --> 00:18:12,425 [screaming] 344 00:18:12,425 --> 00:18:14,393 [fire crackling] 345 00:18:14,393 --> 00:18:15,862 [shouting] 346 00:18:15,862 --> 00:18:16,863 PASSENGER: Please save us! 347 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:21,767 Snap out it. 348 00:18:21,767 --> 00:18:22,735 JAMES HEYD: He was in shock. 349 00:18:22,735 --> 00:18:24,437 Hey, snap out of it. 350 00:18:24,437 --> 00:18:25,972 JAMES HEYD: Hey buddy, pull it together here. 351 00:18:25,972 --> 00:18:27,373 You know, there's people in here, 352 00:18:27,373 --> 00:18:28,741 and we got to do something about it. 353 00:18:28,741 --> 00:18:29,542 But-- 354 00:18:29,542 --> 00:18:32,411 [dramatic music] 355 00:18:33,479 --> 00:18:35,314 NARRATOR: Half blind without his glasses, 356 00:18:35,314 --> 00:18:38,684 Heyd goes back inside to try to help others. 357 00:18:38,684 --> 00:18:40,353 PASSENGER: Help! 358 00:18:40,353 --> 00:18:42,221 413 here dispatcher. 359 00:18:42,221 --> 00:18:44,090 NARRATOR: Back in the caboose, Smith 360 00:18:44,090 --> 00:18:45,458 is talking to the freight train's 361 00:18:45,458 --> 00:18:50,129 dispatcher more than 170 miles away in Edmonton. 362 00:18:50,129 --> 00:18:51,631 We've got to get a doctor out here. 363 00:18:51,631 --> 00:18:53,566 NARRATOR: Herb Timpe, the assistant conductor 364 00:18:53,566 --> 00:18:57,170 on the passenger train hears the conversation and breaks in. 365 00:18:57,170 --> 00:18:59,772 There's cars and passenger coaches all over the ditch. 366 00:18:59,772 --> 00:19:02,942 HERBERT TIMPE (ON RADIO): [panting] And get an ambulance! 367 00:19:02,942 --> 00:19:05,111 And there's a whole bunch of cars on fire. 368 00:19:05,111 --> 00:19:06,779 (FRANTICALLY) You get that dispatcher? 369 00:19:06,779 --> 00:19:08,581 DISPATCHER (ON RADIO): OK, that's right on the switch 370 00:19:08,581 --> 00:19:10,383 at Dalehurst, eh? 371 00:19:10,383 --> 00:19:12,185 Yes, I'm gonna walk up there and see 372 00:19:12,185 --> 00:19:14,053 if I can be of any assistance. 373 00:19:14,053 --> 00:19:15,888 DISPATCHER (ON RADIO): What was the signal at Dalehurst 374 00:19:15,888 --> 00:19:17,223 when your head in called it? 375 00:19:17,223 --> 00:19:18,758 Uh, pardon me? 376 00:19:18,758 --> 00:19:20,193 DISPATCHER (ON RADIO): What was that signal 377 00:19:20,193 --> 00:19:23,162 on that signal at Dalehurst? 378 00:19:23,162 --> 00:19:26,632 [clears throat] W-- well, I was calling him for the signal 379 00:19:26,632 --> 00:19:30,469 at Dalehurst quite a few times, but I kept calling him, 380 00:19:30,469 --> 00:19:31,470 and there was no answer. 381 00:19:31,470 --> 00:19:32,572 DISPATCHER (ON RADIO): Well, it should 382 00:19:32,572 --> 00:19:33,873 have been red on the panel. 383 00:19:33,873 --> 00:19:36,242 Well, he must have ran it then, dispatcher, because I 384 00:19:36,242 --> 00:19:37,443 could not get a hold of him. 385 00:19:37,443 --> 00:19:39,612 I tried, and I tried. 386 00:19:39,612 --> 00:19:41,214 DISPATCHER (ON RADIO): OK, all-- all right. 387 00:19:41,214 --> 00:19:44,150 [panting] 388 00:19:44,150 --> 00:19:44,951 [screaming] 389 00:19:44,951 --> 00:19:46,018 PASSENGER: Help me! 390 00:19:46,018 --> 00:19:47,053 Help! 391 00:19:47,053 --> 00:19:48,421 NARRATOR: Back at the passenger train, 392 00:19:48,421 --> 00:19:52,725 Jamie Heyd tries to save whomever he can. 393 00:19:52,725 --> 00:19:54,727 Are you OK? 394 00:19:54,727 --> 00:19:57,296 I'm gonna help you. 395 00:19:57,296 --> 00:19:59,432 NARRATOR: Heyd can hear the screams of men and women 396 00:19:59,432 --> 00:20:01,033 trapped in the flames. 397 00:20:01,033 --> 00:20:03,536 And I can hear the women 398 00:20:03,536 --> 00:20:05,071 that I had 399 00:20:05,071 --> 00:20:07,974 dinner with the night before screaming. 400 00:20:07,974 --> 00:20:12,345 You know, um, 401 00:20:12,345 --> 00:20:14,113 to save her baby. 402 00:20:14,113 --> 00:20:15,915 [somber music] 403 00:20:15,915 --> 00:20:17,316 [coughing] 404 00:20:17,316 --> 00:20:20,219 NARRATOR: Heyd was not able to save the mother and her child. 405 00:20:20,219 --> 00:20:22,088 They are out of reach under debris. 406 00:20:25,825 --> 00:20:29,061 That was, uh, that was difficult. 407 00:20:29,061 --> 00:20:31,831 [screaming] 408 00:20:32,832 --> 00:20:33,899 KENNETH CUTTLE: People who were trapped 409 00:20:33,899 --> 00:20:37,670 and couldn't get out screaming, screaming 410 00:20:37,670 --> 00:20:38,604 like you've never heard. 411 00:20:44,710 --> 00:20:47,880 Anybody in front of me in that coach was dead. 412 00:20:51,017 --> 00:20:54,287 For whatever the reasons, it wasn't my time to go 413 00:20:54,287 --> 00:20:55,855 then, for whatever the reasons. 414 00:20:55,855 --> 00:20:58,224 [ominous music] 415 00:20:58,224 --> 00:21:00,526 NARRATOR: Wayne Smith is devastated. 416 00:21:00,526 --> 00:21:02,962 He can't reach his two friends at the front of the freight 417 00:21:02,962 --> 00:21:06,165 train, and he can't understand what happened to cause 418 00:21:06,165 --> 00:21:07,566 such an enormous disaster. 419 00:21:10,970 --> 00:21:13,206 NARRATOR: In Western Canada, a freight train 420 00:21:13,206 --> 00:21:15,642 is smashed head on into a passenger train 421 00:21:15,642 --> 00:21:17,310 carrying more than 100 people. 422 00:21:17,310 --> 00:21:19,545 [screaming] 423 00:21:19,545 --> 00:21:21,547 In the minutes after the collision, 424 00:21:21,547 --> 00:21:23,449 survivors are dragging themselves 425 00:21:23,449 --> 00:21:25,551 from the burning wreckage, while others 426 00:21:25,551 --> 00:21:27,220 are still trapped inside. 427 00:21:27,220 --> 00:21:28,655 [fire crackling] 428 00:21:28,655 --> 00:21:31,991 [sirens wailing] 429 00:21:33,459 --> 00:21:35,662 Royal Canadian Mounted Police Constable 430 00:21:35,662 --> 00:21:39,432 Mark Linnell is one of the first to arrive at the crash. 431 00:21:39,432 --> 00:21:43,903 I was told that it was a train derailment, not a train crash. 432 00:21:43,903 --> 00:21:47,173 I mean, there's a double whammy. 433 00:21:47,173 --> 00:21:50,843 KENNETH CUTTLE: The RCMP officer came he could hardly speak. 434 00:21:50,843 --> 00:21:54,113 His mouth dropped open, and he said, 435 00:21:54,113 --> 00:21:56,549 I can't believe what I'm witnessing. 436 00:21:56,549 --> 00:21:59,152 [somber music] 437 00:21:59,152 --> 00:22:01,688 NARRATOR: It's a horrifying scene. 438 00:22:01,688 --> 00:22:05,558 Pictures taken shortly after the crash show utter devastation. 439 00:22:08,394 --> 00:22:11,197 I mean, I was just flabbergasted. 440 00:22:11,197 --> 00:22:13,132 I just couldn't believe it. 441 00:22:13,132 --> 00:22:18,037 At that instant, that's quite the thing to see. 442 00:22:24,677 --> 00:22:26,646 [sirens wailing] 443 00:22:26,646 --> 00:22:29,782 NARRATOR: The collision is 11 miles from the town of Hinton. 444 00:22:29,782 --> 00:22:33,653 It takes emergency crews some 45 minutes to arrive. 445 00:22:33,653 --> 00:22:35,788 MARK LINNELL: I was in the Marines in England for 14 446 00:22:35,788 --> 00:22:40,393 years, and I'd seen a lot a lot of disasters, 447 00:22:40,393 --> 00:22:42,962 man-made disasters, terrorist bombs, 448 00:22:42,962 --> 00:22:44,897 and I thought I'd seen it all. 449 00:22:44,897 --> 00:22:47,867 There was a lot of blunt force trauma, 450 00:22:47,867 --> 00:22:49,369 of course flying glass, burns. 451 00:22:52,772 --> 00:22:57,009 And then I saw what appeared to be two bodies in the restaurant 452 00:22:57,009 --> 00:22:59,712 car hugging each other, so we found out 453 00:22:59,712 --> 00:23:00,980 later that was a man and wife. 454 00:23:00,980 --> 00:23:06,552 And this was one heck of a shock. 455 00:23:06,552 --> 00:23:08,721 NARRATOR: As Linnell is escorting survivors away 456 00:23:08,721 --> 00:23:11,924 from the site, he sees a lone man with a radio 457 00:23:11,924 --> 00:23:13,393 coming down the track. 458 00:23:13,393 --> 00:23:14,861 How's the, uh-- how's the front end doing? 459 00:23:14,861 --> 00:23:15,661 Uh-- 460 00:23:15,661 --> 00:23:16,596 What's your name? 461 00:23:16,596 --> 00:23:17,530 WAYNE SMITH: It's-- it's-- 462 00:23:17,530 --> 00:23:18,731 NARRATOR: Smith is about to learn 463 00:23:18,731 --> 00:23:19,732 that his colleagues are dead. 464 00:23:19,732 --> 00:23:20,500 Is everything OK? 465 00:23:20,500 --> 00:23:21,534 Like, what happened? 466 00:23:21,534 --> 00:23:22,702 Like, did they make contact with the-- 467 00:23:22,702 --> 00:23:24,070 We're still under an investigation, 468 00:23:24,070 --> 00:23:26,439 and there's not a lot I can tell you right now. 469 00:23:26,439 --> 00:23:28,040 OK, so they still might be-- 470 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:28,841 I mean-- 471 00:23:28,841 --> 00:23:29,642 I'm really sorry. 472 00:23:29,642 --> 00:23:31,210 [gasps] 473 00:23:31,210 --> 00:23:33,179 MARK LINNELL: He'd be distraught and shaken, 474 00:23:33,179 --> 00:23:36,349 and his train is wrecked, and all these people dead. 475 00:23:36,349 --> 00:23:39,519 [somber music] 476 00:23:39,519 --> 00:23:42,054 NARRATOR: The Hinton disaster is Canada's worst 477 00:23:42,054 --> 00:23:44,257 railway accident in 35 years. 478 00:23:44,257 --> 00:23:45,558 [helicopter whirring] 479 00:23:45,558 --> 00:23:48,694 More than $30 million of property is destroyed. 480 00:23:48,694 --> 00:23:52,331 23 people are dead, and 71 others are injured. 481 00:24:00,807 --> 00:24:03,609 Wayne Smith is the only surviving crew member 482 00:24:03,609 --> 00:24:07,380 of CN 413, the only man who could explain how 483 00:24:07,380 --> 00:24:10,383 a 12,000 ton freight train plowed headfirst 484 00:24:10,383 --> 00:24:13,052 into a passenger train. 485 00:24:13,052 --> 00:24:15,555 His testimony could be critical to unraveling 486 00:24:15,555 --> 00:24:19,058 the cause of the disaster. 487 00:24:19,058 --> 00:24:21,794 Two days after the collision, the Alberta government 488 00:24:21,794 --> 00:24:25,031 establishes an official commission of inquiry, 489 00:24:25,031 --> 00:24:26,899 and the honorable justice René P. 490 00:24:26,899 --> 00:24:29,936 Foisy leads the investigation. 491 00:24:29,936 --> 00:24:33,606 Judge Foisy is a justice of the Alberta Court of Appeal. 492 00:24:33,606 --> 00:24:38,845 It was reasonably simple, I mean, what caused the accident. 493 00:24:38,845 --> 00:24:41,247 But it turned out to be a lot more complicated than that 494 00:24:41,247 --> 00:24:43,583 because there were no easy answers 495 00:24:43,583 --> 00:24:45,284 as to what caused the accident. 496 00:24:45,284 --> 00:24:46,986 NARRATOR: Freight and passenger trains 497 00:24:46,986 --> 00:24:49,922 routinely use the same tracks without incident. 498 00:24:49,922 --> 00:24:52,058 What was different this time? 499 00:24:52,058 --> 00:24:54,560 Over the next 11 months, Foisy calls 500 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,731 on 150 witnesses and specialists to help him find out. 501 00:24:58,731 --> 00:25:00,533 I think what has most surprised me is 502 00:25:00,533 --> 00:25:04,737 the-- the complex procedures, the equipment, 503 00:25:04,737 --> 00:25:06,606 the overall complexity that-- 504 00:25:06,606 --> 00:25:08,908 that we have to look at in running a railroad, 505 00:25:08,908 --> 00:25:10,576 and what goes on in running a railroad. 506 00:25:10,576 --> 00:25:12,678 [dramatic music] 507 00:25:12,678 --> 00:25:15,481 NARRATOR: With conductor Smith temporarily unavailable, 508 00:25:15,481 --> 00:25:18,184 Foisy begins by studying the signals that should have 509 00:25:18,184 --> 00:25:21,187 told the freight train to stop. 510 00:25:21,187 --> 00:25:24,090 If they weren't working, the crew on 413 511 00:25:24,090 --> 00:25:26,025 may not have thought they needed to slow down. 512 00:25:29,028 --> 00:25:35,134 CN did a very in-depth test on the signal system, 513 00:25:35,134 --> 00:25:42,708 and it was determined that it was performing properly. 514 00:25:42,708 --> 00:25:44,043 We went further. 515 00:25:44,043 --> 00:25:48,180 We hired our own independent experts to test the system. 516 00:25:48,180 --> 00:25:49,615 [train horn honks] 517 00:25:49,615 --> 00:25:51,017 NARRATOR: The switches which operate 518 00:25:51,017 --> 00:25:54,754 the signal lights were frozen in position after the accident. 519 00:25:54,754 --> 00:25:58,658 Electrical engineer Eugene Kowch was hired to read them. 520 00:25:58,658 --> 00:26:00,860 Perhaps a mechanical fault in the system 521 00:26:00,860 --> 00:26:03,262 had turned the signals green, telling the freight 522 00:26:03,262 --> 00:26:05,865 train to speed through. 523 00:26:05,865 --> 00:26:09,201 A fault does not give a positive green light 524 00:26:09,201 --> 00:26:10,703 to any situation. 525 00:26:10,703 --> 00:26:14,640 So if there was a fault in any controls part of the system, 526 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,109 it would have forced everything to go to red, which meant 527 00:26:17,109 --> 00:26:18,911 the passenger train would have stopped 528 00:26:18,911 --> 00:26:21,781 and would have forced the freight train to stop. 529 00:26:21,781 --> 00:26:24,150 NARRATOR: If a mechanical problem wasn't the cause, 530 00:26:24,150 --> 00:26:26,552 there was a more chilling possibility. 531 00:26:26,552 --> 00:26:30,489 Perhaps someone set the signals to green on purpose, causing 532 00:26:30,489 --> 00:26:32,291 the two trains to collide. 533 00:26:32,291 --> 00:26:34,527 Kowch dismisses that too. 534 00:26:34,527 --> 00:26:35,761 To do that would mean that somebody 535 00:26:35,761 --> 00:26:37,396 would have to actually go there and really 536 00:26:37,396 --> 00:26:39,332 maliciously change things. 537 00:26:39,332 --> 00:26:44,370 And there was no sign of any tampering on any mechanisms. 538 00:26:44,370 --> 00:26:48,107 Basically, our conclusion-- we felt that the system was sound 539 00:26:48,107 --> 00:26:49,976 and was safe. 540 00:26:49,976 --> 00:26:52,211 NARRATOR: Foisy believes the lights were red, 541 00:26:52,211 --> 00:26:54,747 but the train continued anyway. 542 00:26:54,747 --> 00:26:57,750 Perhaps another mechanical fault was behind the crash. 543 00:26:57,750 --> 00:26:59,585 Well I was calling him for the signal at Dalehurst 544 00:26:59,585 --> 00:27:00,653 quite a few-- 545 00:27:00,653 --> 00:27:02,021 NARRATOR: In his statement after the crash, 546 00:27:02,021 --> 00:27:05,191 conductor Wayne Smith told Royal Canadian Mounted Police 547 00:27:05,191 --> 00:27:07,460 officers that something was wrong with his radio 548 00:27:07,460 --> 00:27:08,260 that morning. 549 00:27:08,260 --> 00:27:09,061 --get a hold of him. 550 00:27:09,061 --> 00:27:11,731 I tried, and I tried. 551 00:27:11,731 --> 00:27:13,599 NARRATOR: Maybe the engineer at the front of the train 552 00:27:13,599 --> 00:27:16,135 was having mechanical problems but wasn't able to get 553 00:27:16,135 --> 00:27:18,504 in contact with Smith. 554 00:27:18,504 --> 00:27:22,742 Joseph Hebert examines the portable radios the crew used. 555 00:27:22,742 --> 00:27:25,244 The first test was with the radio 556 00:27:25,244 --> 00:27:29,415 that was on the train that was in the accident at Hinton. 557 00:27:29,415 --> 00:27:32,385 The radio performed to specification. 558 00:27:32,385 --> 00:27:35,021 NARRATOR: But even if the radios themselves were working, 559 00:27:35,021 --> 00:27:36,288 there could have been another problem. 560 00:27:36,288 --> 00:27:37,556 Do you know for a fact that he was-- 561 00:27:37,556 --> 00:27:39,191 NARRATOR: Many CN employees claim 562 00:27:39,191 --> 00:27:42,361 there are places where radio communication is impossible, 563 00:27:42,361 --> 00:27:44,330 so-called dead spots. 564 00:27:44,330 --> 00:27:45,631 And it's not a dead spot that's 565 00:27:45,631 --> 00:27:47,400 there 365 days out of the year. 566 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,569 NARRATOR: The possibility was also examined and dismissed. 567 00:27:50,569 --> 00:27:51,871 Sometimes you can't. 568 00:27:51,871 --> 00:27:53,139 Some radios are stronger. 569 00:27:53,139 --> 00:27:54,840 Some are weaker. 570 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,277 The second test done, as far as communications 571 00:27:58,277 --> 00:28:00,680 between the locomotive and the caboose, 572 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,115 was done with the same type of radio 573 00:28:03,115 --> 00:28:06,619 as was used at the time the accident took place. 574 00:28:06,619 --> 00:28:09,055 [radio chatter] 575 00:28:09,055 --> 00:28:12,591 The field test with that type of radio 576 00:28:12,591 --> 00:28:14,760 had satisfactory performance. 577 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,529 The evidence was, uh, pretty clear, 578 00:28:16,529 --> 00:28:18,631 and we concluded that there were no dead spots. 579 00:28:18,631 --> 00:28:21,600 [suspenseful music] 580 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,737 NARRATOR: One other possible explanation is examined. 581 00:28:24,737 --> 00:28:27,406 Natural phenomena like the northern lights 582 00:28:27,406 --> 00:28:30,242 can also affect radio performance. 583 00:28:30,242 --> 00:28:33,145 Um, I've got a measure at Medicine Lodge. 584 00:28:33,145 --> 00:28:36,816 JOSEPH HEBERT: Northern lights can build up very high currents 585 00:28:36,816 --> 00:28:38,784 and communications lines. 586 00:28:38,784 --> 00:28:42,788 Anything even hooked up to a radio could pick it up. 587 00:28:42,788 --> 00:28:46,225 My determination of it was that they were not a factor. 588 00:28:48,894 --> 00:28:50,663 NARRATOR: If the signals were red, 589 00:28:50,663 --> 00:28:54,166 and the radios were working, why had the train crashed? 590 00:28:54,166 --> 00:28:55,935 OK, so just explain to me how these-- 591 00:28:55,935 --> 00:28:59,171 NARRATOR: Foisy examines an ingenious piece of technology, 592 00:28:59,171 --> 00:29:01,640 the hot box detector. 593 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,709 Sitting beside the track, hot box 594 00:29:03,709 --> 00:29:05,411 detectors measure the temperature 595 00:29:05,411 --> 00:29:07,580 of a train's wheels and axles. 596 00:29:07,580 --> 00:29:11,550 They also record the speed of trains as they roar by. 597 00:29:11,550 --> 00:29:14,854 When Foisy and his advisors examine the hot box data, 598 00:29:14,854 --> 00:29:16,789 they make a telling discovery. 599 00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:22,161 When the front of the freight train 600 00:29:22,161 --> 00:29:25,431 passed the hot box detector just after Hargwen, 601 00:29:25,431 --> 00:29:29,435 it was traveling a little over 37 miles an hour. 602 00:29:29,435 --> 00:29:31,937 But by the time the caboose passed the detector, 603 00:29:31,937 --> 00:29:35,841 the train was going more than 45 miles an hour. 604 00:29:35,841 --> 00:29:38,244 Despite signals telling it to slow down, 605 00:29:38,244 --> 00:29:40,246 the train was speeding up. 606 00:29:40,246 --> 00:29:42,548 For the last five miles, we were able to determine 607 00:29:42,548 --> 00:29:49,121 that the freight train was going at least 59 miles an hour, 608 00:29:49,121 --> 00:29:51,590 perhaps as high as 60 or 61. 609 00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:55,094 There were no brake applications before the crash as well. 610 00:29:55,094 --> 00:29:58,097 NARRATOR: The crew let the train travel too fast. 611 00:29:58,097 --> 00:30:00,432 They did not obey signals to stop, 612 00:30:00,432 --> 00:30:02,735 and they never applied the brakes. 613 00:30:02,735 --> 00:30:05,638 It all points to a train that was out of control. 614 00:30:08,207 --> 00:30:09,942 Oh, my god! 615 00:30:09,942 --> 00:30:12,711 [crashing] 616 00:30:12,711 --> 00:30:14,947 NARRATOR: With mechanical problems ruled out, 617 00:30:14,947 --> 00:30:18,417 Foisy begins to look at the crew of the freight train. 618 00:30:18,417 --> 00:30:21,620 Perhaps there is something about engineer Jack Hudson 619 00:30:21,620 --> 00:30:26,158 who was in charge that could explain what happened that day. 620 00:30:26,158 --> 00:30:28,561 As Foisy he begins sifting through Hudson's 621 00:30:28,561 --> 00:30:31,230 medical records and interviewing his family, 622 00:30:31,230 --> 00:30:33,599 he makes a disturbing discovery. 623 00:30:34,934 --> 00:30:36,369 [suspenseful music] 624 00:30:36,369 --> 00:30:38,438 NARRATOR: A train collision in Western Canada 625 00:30:38,438 --> 00:30:43,476 has killed 23 people, another 71 are injured. 626 00:30:43,476 --> 00:30:46,179 The man leading the inquiry into the disaster 627 00:30:46,179 --> 00:30:48,581 has ruled out mechanical problems. 628 00:30:48,581 --> 00:30:52,218 Judge René Foisy now takes a closer look at Jack Hudson, 629 00:30:52,218 --> 00:30:55,621 the 16-year veteran who is driving the freight train. 630 00:30:55,621 --> 00:30:59,025 When Foisy and the commission review Hudson's medical files, 631 00:30:59,025 --> 00:31:01,394 they're shocked by what they discover. 632 00:31:01,394 --> 00:31:06,532 Mr. Hudson was a man who-- who was sick. 633 00:31:06,532 --> 00:31:08,201 He was an alcoholic. 634 00:31:08,201 --> 00:31:12,038 He had high blood pressure, which was problematic. 635 00:31:12,038 --> 00:31:14,140 He had diabetes. 636 00:31:14,140 --> 00:31:19,912 He had a pancreatic attack the summer before this accident. 637 00:31:19,912 --> 00:31:23,349 He had to wear a colostomy for a number of months. 638 00:31:23,349 --> 00:31:26,185 NARRATOR: Foisy wonders if this long list of illnesses 639 00:31:26,185 --> 00:31:29,188 could somehow have led to the crash. 640 00:31:29,188 --> 00:31:31,524 DERRICK POUNDER: The engineer, Jack Hudson, 641 00:31:31,524 --> 00:31:34,927 had been killed outright in the crash and had severe injuries, 642 00:31:34,927 --> 00:31:37,763 so we couldn't determine whether there'd been a catastrophic 643 00:31:37,763 --> 00:31:39,866 medical event-- whether he'd had a heart attack, 644 00:31:39,866 --> 00:31:41,634 for example, or a stroke-- 645 00:31:41,634 --> 00:31:43,402 which had incapacitated him. 646 00:31:43,402 --> 00:31:45,204 But we were able to do toxicology, 647 00:31:45,204 --> 00:31:47,039 and there was no alcohol or drugs present. 648 00:31:50,309 --> 00:31:52,578 NARRATOR: If Hudson did have a stroke or heart 649 00:31:52,578 --> 00:31:55,648 attack at the controls, why didn't his brakeman, 650 00:31:55,648 --> 00:31:58,518 Mark Edwards, take any action? 651 00:31:58,518 --> 00:32:01,220 Investigators come up with one plausible answer. 652 00:32:01,220 --> 00:32:02,054 [sniffles] 653 00:32:02,054 --> 00:32:03,756 Did you get some rest? 654 00:32:03,756 --> 00:32:04,857 Not much. 655 00:32:04,857 --> 00:32:06,792 Got a touch of the flu. 656 00:32:06,792 --> 00:32:08,060 Could use a full night's sleep. 657 00:32:08,060 --> 00:32:10,429 [sniffles] 658 00:32:10,429 --> 00:32:14,934 NARRATOR: Perhaps Edwards had been asleep on the job. 659 00:32:14,934 --> 00:32:20,339 Dr. Alison Smiley is an expert on sleep and fatigue. 660 00:32:20,339 --> 00:32:23,910 Jack Hudson, he had had, at the very most, before he went 661 00:32:23,910 --> 00:32:26,579 on duty that day, 3 and 1/2 hours of sleep, 662 00:32:26,579 --> 00:32:29,782 and that is if he slept from the last moment somebody 663 00:32:29,782 --> 00:32:32,718 saw him until the moment somebody next 664 00:32:32,718 --> 00:32:34,420 saw him again, 3 and 1/2 hours. 665 00:32:37,423 --> 00:32:39,659 Brakeman said he had a touch of the flu, 666 00:32:39,659 --> 00:32:43,663 and he'd had five hours sleep the night before. 667 00:32:43,663 --> 00:32:49,368 Wayne Smith, similarly, had had insufficient sleep, about five 668 00:32:49,368 --> 00:32:52,772 hours, before the collision. 669 00:32:52,772 --> 00:32:54,840 NARRATOR: As the freight train passed the signals 670 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:59,545 telling it to stop, the entire crew may have been fast asleep. 671 00:32:59,545 --> 00:33:01,914 You could work at any time of the day. 672 00:33:01,914 --> 00:33:04,917 So one day, you might start at 4:00 in the morning. 673 00:33:04,917 --> 00:33:08,120 The next day, you start at 2:00 in the afternoon. 674 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,522 Their hours were so erratic. 675 00:33:09,522 --> 00:33:12,158 They were continually in a jet lag state 676 00:33:12,158 --> 00:33:14,927 because their physiology was never 677 00:33:14,927 --> 00:33:22,268 sort of fully adjusted to any particular working hours. 678 00:33:22,268 --> 00:33:24,370 NARRATOR: To stay alert, train engineers 679 00:33:24,370 --> 00:33:28,374 face many challenges, including long rides up and down 680 00:33:28,374 --> 00:33:30,576 the same stretch of track. 681 00:33:30,576 --> 00:33:36,182 The tracks going by one after the other, 682 00:33:36,182 --> 00:33:39,852 it's a very soporific situation to work 683 00:33:39,852 --> 00:33:43,022 in and easy to see how somebody-- 684 00:33:43,022 --> 00:33:46,492 no matter how motivated-- 685 00:33:46,492 --> 00:33:49,629 could fall asleep. 686 00:33:49,629 --> 00:33:52,331 NARRATOR: At the time, trains were equipped with safety 687 00:33:52,331 --> 00:33:54,934 devices that would automatically stop a train 688 00:33:54,934 --> 00:33:57,837 if the engine man died or fell asleep 689 00:33:57,837 --> 00:34:00,706 the so-called "deadman's pedal." 690 00:34:00,706 --> 00:34:03,576 Basically, the engineer is supposed to keep his foot 691 00:34:03,576 --> 00:34:06,245 on the pedal, and while he's-- 692 00:34:06,245 --> 00:34:09,215 his foot is on the pedal, the train won't stop. 693 00:34:09,215 --> 00:34:12,918 If that pedal isn't depressed, then it 694 00:34:12,918 --> 00:34:15,855 will, after a number of seconds, give a warning, 695 00:34:15,855 --> 00:34:17,790 which is quite audible. 696 00:34:17,790 --> 00:34:20,760 And if nothing happens then, it will stop the train. 697 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,596 NARRATOR: But Foisy discovers that for many train men, 698 00:34:23,596 --> 00:34:26,666 disabling the dead man's pedal was standard practice. 699 00:34:26,666 --> 00:34:29,969 One of the excuses that was given by the engineers 700 00:34:29,969 --> 00:34:32,938 is that, to go long distances, having 701 00:34:32,938 --> 00:34:36,242 to keep your foot on that pedal was very uncomfortable. 702 00:34:36,242 --> 00:34:41,213 And so that they would sometimes put something 703 00:34:41,213 --> 00:34:43,449 on the pedal-- a lunchbox, or something heavy enough 704 00:34:43,449 --> 00:34:47,219 to keep it depressed-- so that they could stretch their legs. 705 00:34:47,219 --> 00:34:49,689 Unfortunately, what was happening, 706 00:34:49,689 --> 00:34:53,125 this pedal was being depressed for long, long periods of time. 707 00:34:55,695 --> 00:34:58,364 NARRATOR: But even if Hudson and Edwards had fallen asleep 708 00:34:58,364 --> 00:35:01,033 at the front of the train, and the dead man's pedal was 709 00:35:01,033 --> 00:35:03,936 rigged, conductor Wayne Smith at the back 710 00:35:03,936 --> 00:35:07,373 could still have prevented the disaster. 711 00:35:07,373 --> 00:35:11,877 Almost two months into the Foisy inquiry, Smith takes the stand. 712 00:35:11,877 --> 00:35:14,346 Doctors kept him from testifying sooner, 713 00:35:14,346 --> 00:35:17,450 saying he was too traumatized by the accident. 714 00:35:17,450 --> 00:35:19,919 Now, for the first time, investigators 715 00:35:19,919 --> 00:35:22,455 hear Smith reconstruct events on the freight 716 00:35:22,455 --> 00:35:25,224 train in the moments leading up to the disaster. 717 00:35:25,224 --> 00:35:27,727 I was sitting, looking out the back of the train 718 00:35:27,727 --> 00:35:31,831 from my desk when we passed mile board 169. 719 00:35:31,831 --> 00:35:37,236 That's the, uh-- that's the landmark that I use to initiate 720 00:35:37,236 --> 00:35:39,772 a call to the engineer to ask for the display at the 721 00:35:39,772 --> 00:35:40,940 Dalehurst approach signal. 722 00:35:44,877 --> 00:35:48,447 Head end of 413, what indication do you have at the Dalehurst 723 00:35:48,447 --> 00:35:50,282 approach signal 1703? 724 00:35:50,282 --> 00:35:52,017 Over. 725 00:35:52,017 --> 00:35:54,520 NARRATOR: The front end of the train is supposed to respond, 726 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,189 letting Smith know they've seen the signal lights 727 00:35:57,189 --> 00:35:59,658 telling them to slow down. 728 00:35:59,658 --> 00:36:01,660 Head of 413, can you hear me? 729 00:36:01,660 --> 00:36:03,095 Over. 730 00:36:03,095 --> 00:36:06,265 I-- I probably called them three or four times. 731 00:36:06,265 --> 00:36:10,302 I, uh, I didn't get a response on my gray radio. 732 00:36:10,302 --> 00:36:12,838 There was, uh, there was something wrong with it. 733 00:36:12,838 --> 00:36:15,207 What's the indication at signal 1703? 734 00:36:15,207 --> 00:36:16,008 Over. 735 00:36:16,008 --> 00:36:18,911 [suspenseful music] 736 00:36:18,911 --> 00:36:21,380 NARRATOR: It's a surprising piece of testimony. 737 00:36:21,380 --> 00:36:26,552 Foisy already knows the radios were working fine. 738 00:36:26,552 --> 00:36:28,788 When Smith is asked how fast he thought 739 00:36:28,788 --> 00:36:31,023 the train was going before the collision, 740 00:36:31,023 --> 00:36:33,092 Foisy gets another surprise. 741 00:36:33,092 --> 00:36:35,995 [clears throat] I felt the front end give a light brake 742 00:36:35,995 --> 00:36:39,265 application on the caboose. 743 00:36:39,265 --> 00:36:41,000 Coming around the curve, I felt we 744 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:45,371 were doing a track speed of about 50 miles an hour or less. 745 00:36:45,371 --> 00:36:47,907 NARRATOR: But according to the hot box detectors, 746 00:36:47,907 --> 00:36:51,977 the train was traveling 10 miles an hour over track speed, 747 00:36:51,977 --> 00:36:54,847 and no one applied the brakes. 748 00:36:54,847 --> 00:36:57,516 WAYNE SMITH: I went to my red radio, 749 00:36:57,516 --> 00:37:02,121 and I tried to get a hold of them on it. 750 00:37:02,121 --> 00:37:06,926 Jack, how does the Dalehurst approach signal 1703? 751 00:37:06,926 --> 00:37:09,995 I was calling them on channel 1 three or four times, 752 00:37:09,995 --> 00:37:13,666 and there was no answer, so I tried to get a hold of them 753 00:37:13,666 --> 00:37:15,467 on different channels. 754 00:37:15,467 --> 00:37:18,838 NARRATOR: Once again, Smith's testimony doesn't add up. 755 00:37:18,838 --> 00:37:20,739 Foisy has heard from other trainmen 756 00:37:20,739 --> 00:37:23,776 who were monitoring their radios in the area that day. 757 00:37:23,776 --> 00:37:26,812 No one heard Smith call. 758 00:37:26,812 --> 00:37:29,982 Smith says he was still trying to contact Hudson when 759 00:37:29,982 --> 00:37:32,117 the end of the train raced past signals 760 00:37:32,117 --> 00:37:33,586 telling it to slow down. 761 00:37:33,586 --> 00:37:34,787 Jack! 762 00:37:34,787 --> 00:37:36,789 NARRATOR: As an experienced trainman, 763 00:37:36,789 --> 00:37:39,225 Smith knows that the next set of lights 764 00:37:39,225 --> 00:37:43,495 will likely be a triple red, telling the train to stop. 765 00:37:43,495 --> 00:37:47,533 He was getting no answer, and the train wasn't slowing down. 766 00:37:47,533 --> 00:37:50,536 An emergency brake cord was within easy reach, 767 00:37:50,536 --> 00:37:52,838 but Smith never pulled it. 768 00:37:52,838 --> 00:37:55,441 At that time, I didn't think that anything was wrong. 769 00:37:55,441 --> 00:37:57,910 That's the point I make, Mr. Smith, that when there is 770 00:37:57,910 --> 00:38:00,412 a problem with the radio, you've been trained over the years 771 00:38:00,412 --> 00:38:01,981 to observe the signals. 772 00:38:01,981 --> 00:38:05,417 And it would have been the last thing I would have done. 773 00:38:05,417 --> 00:38:06,652 RENE FOISY: He didn't pull the brake. 774 00:38:06,652 --> 00:38:08,921 He didn't pull the air because he felt that it 775 00:38:08,921 --> 00:38:11,624 hadn't reached that point. 776 00:38:11,624 --> 00:38:13,092 Basically, that was his evidence. 777 00:38:13,092 --> 00:38:16,996 And I had a lot of difficulty with that because if-- 778 00:38:16,996 --> 00:38:20,900 if it, uh-- if that point hadn't been reached, 779 00:38:20,900 --> 00:38:24,470 when was it going to be reached, if ever? 780 00:38:24,470 --> 00:38:28,240 NARRATOR: Smith's contradictory testimony is complete. 781 00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:32,278 Judge Foisy is now ready to close his case 782 00:38:32,278 --> 00:38:35,281 and lay the blame on those responsible for the disaster. 783 00:38:35,281 --> 00:38:38,017 [chatter] 784 00:38:40,186 --> 00:38:42,588 NARRATOR: The inquiry into one of Canada's deadliest 785 00:38:42,588 --> 00:38:45,158 train crashes is complete. 786 00:38:45,158 --> 00:38:47,460 23 people were killed when a freight 787 00:38:47,460 --> 00:38:49,595 train crashed head on into a passenger 788 00:38:49,595 --> 00:38:52,965 train near Hinton, Alberta. 789 00:38:52,965 --> 00:38:55,001 Chief investigator Renee Foisy has 790 00:38:55,001 --> 00:38:58,137 explored every angle from technical malfunction 791 00:38:58,137 --> 00:38:59,739 to human error. 792 00:38:59,739 --> 00:39:02,008 He is now ready to deliver his verdict 793 00:39:02,008 --> 00:39:05,178 on what went wrong that day. 794 00:39:05,178 --> 00:39:10,016 In his 205 page report, Foisy parcels out the blame, 795 00:39:10,016 --> 00:39:11,617 naming all the key offenders. 796 00:39:11,617 --> 00:39:13,686 [dramatic music] 797 00:39:13,686 --> 00:39:16,889 Foisy writes that the train's engineer, Jack Hudson, 798 00:39:16,889 --> 00:39:19,826 failed to observe and obey signals commanding 799 00:39:19,826 --> 00:39:23,162 him to stop his train. 800 00:39:23,162 --> 00:39:25,731 If Hudson was unable to do his job, 801 00:39:25,731 --> 00:39:28,935 brakeman Marc Edwards failed to intervene. 802 00:39:28,935 --> 00:39:31,103 He also ignored the light signals 803 00:39:31,103 --> 00:39:35,408 and didn't stop the train before it entered the single track. 804 00:39:35,408 --> 00:39:37,944 Conductor Wayne Smith is guilty too. 805 00:39:37,944 --> 00:39:40,379 He had failed to follow operating rules 806 00:39:40,379 --> 00:39:42,381 and pull the emergency brake when 807 00:39:42,381 --> 00:39:44,917 he couldn't contact the two men at the front of the train. 808 00:39:44,917 --> 00:39:47,353 [train chugging] 809 00:39:47,353 --> 00:39:50,423 In his statement to police, he had even suggested that he 810 00:39:50,423 --> 00:39:51,991 thought they were sleeping. 811 00:39:51,991 --> 00:39:55,695 It said that my head end was asleep. 812 00:39:55,695 --> 00:39:57,597 LAWYER: Do you recall making that response, sir? 813 00:39:57,597 --> 00:39:59,365 Yes, I do. 814 00:39:59,365 --> 00:40:00,900 NARRATOR: With so many contradictions 815 00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:03,836 in his testimony, Foisy rules that the conductor's 816 00:40:03,836 --> 00:40:05,371 evidence is unreliable. 817 00:40:05,371 --> 00:40:07,273 I wasn't sure what had-- 818 00:40:07,273 --> 00:40:08,608 what had happened. 819 00:40:08,608 --> 00:40:12,211 And I went to my back desk. 820 00:40:12,211 --> 00:40:17,283 I jumped on from the cupola and ran for-- 821 00:40:19,819 --> 00:40:21,387 it seemed like we were just keeping going. 822 00:40:21,387 --> 00:40:23,456 There was no immediate stopping. 823 00:40:23,456 --> 00:40:26,726 The caboose kept sliding. 824 00:40:26,726 --> 00:40:29,529 NARRATOR: Instead, Foisy emphasizes that Smith-- 825 00:40:29,529 --> 00:40:31,063 like Edwards and Hudson-- 826 00:40:31,063 --> 00:40:33,599 was dangerously tired that morning. 827 00:40:33,599 --> 00:40:36,636 I just wanted to-- get home, actually, at the time. 828 00:40:36,636 --> 00:40:39,972 [dramatic music] 829 00:40:41,874 --> 00:40:43,676 NARRATOR: The crew aren't the only ones 830 00:40:43,676 --> 00:40:47,213 Foisy blames for the accident. 831 00:40:47,213 --> 00:40:49,348 According to his report, Jack Hudson 832 00:40:49,348 --> 00:40:51,183 may have well had a stroke or heart 833 00:40:51,183 --> 00:40:53,653 attack before the collision, but CN 834 00:40:53,653 --> 00:40:55,354 management had known about Hudson's 835 00:40:55,354 --> 00:40:57,657 medical condition for years. 836 00:40:57,657 --> 00:41:01,193 He managed to accumulate, I think it was 40 or 50 demerits, 837 00:41:01,193 --> 00:41:04,196 and at 60, you're fired. 838 00:41:04,196 --> 00:41:07,900 But after he got to that level, there 839 00:41:07,900 --> 00:41:10,903 were some other infractions which weren't recorded. 840 00:41:10,903 --> 00:41:13,472 NARRATOR: Foisy also calls attention to the rules that 841 00:41:13,472 --> 00:41:17,376 were routinely ignored, such as rigging the dead man's pedal 842 00:41:17,376 --> 00:41:19,345 and taking the train on the fly. 843 00:41:19,345 --> 00:41:21,681 [train bell ringing] 844 00:41:21,681 --> 00:41:23,416 RENE FOISY: There is a lesson to be learned here. 845 00:41:23,416 --> 00:41:28,554 It's that when you have rules, you obey the rules, 846 00:41:28,554 --> 00:41:30,923 and you enforce the rules. 847 00:41:30,923 --> 00:41:33,025 If it becomes too much of a fraternity 848 00:41:33,025 --> 00:41:39,398 and of a buddy-buddy system, it gets lax, and problems occur. 849 00:41:39,398 --> 00:41:41,934 And this tragedy was one of them. 850 00:41:41,934 --> 00:41:45,638 NARRATOR: Foisy demands that CN improve its safety equipment, 851 00:41:45,638 --> 00:41:48,808 recommending that all trains be equipped with reset safety 852 00:41:48,808 --> 00:41:49,742 control technology. 853 00:41:49,742 --> 00:41:52,011 [rapid beeping] 854 00:41:52,011 --> 00:41:54,347 These systems are much more sophisticated 855 00:41:54,347 --> 00:41:56,082 than a dead man's pedal. 856 00:41:56,082 --> 00:41:59,218 If an operator fails to pay constant attention, 857 00:41:59,218 --> 00:42:03,623 alarms sound, and the train eventually shuts down. 858 00:42:03,623 --> 00:42:06,325 The equipment has proved valuable several times 859 00:42:06,325 --> 00:42:07,159 since the disaster. 860 00:42:07,159 --> 00:42:08,461 [sustained beeping] 861 00:42:08,461 --> 00:42:11,731 ALISON SMILEY: There was a study done with CN 10 years 862 00:42:11,731 --> 00:42:12,999 after this accident. 863 00:42:12,999 --> 00:42:17,169 They found something like 90% of the train engineers 864 00:42:17,169 --> 00:42:21,073 saying that they had been woken by the alerting device at least 865 00:42:21,073 --> 00:42:22,408 once. 866 00:42:22,408 --> 00:42:24,510 NARRATOR: In response to Foisy's report, 867 00:42:24,510 --> 00:42:28,047 CN Rail creates one of the most sophisticated fatigue 868 00:42:28,047 --> 00:42:31,050 countermeasures programs in the world. 869 00:42:31,050 --> 00:42:33,886 Trainmen are no longer on call seven days a week, 870 00:42:33,886 --> 00:42:35,688 24 hours a day. 871 00:42:35,688 --> 00:42:38,190 Napping is no longer frowned upon. 872 00:42:38,190 --> 00:42:41,160 Rest houses have been improved and locomotive 873 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,795 cabs made more comfortable. 874 00:42:46,766 --> 00:42:50,236 [somber music] 875 00:42:51,737 --> 00:42:56,075 For the victims of the disaster, changes to Canadian railroading 876 00:42:56,075 --> 00:42:59,145 came too late. 877 00:42:59,145 --> 00:43:01,047 I still remember the people that 878 00:43:01,047 --> 00:43:04,016 were killed in the accident and good friends I 879 00:43:04,016 --> 00:43:06,452 had on the railroad. 880 00:43:06,452 --> 00:43:11,657 And that really-- it does bother me. 881 00:43:11,657 --> 00:43:13,993 Too much of a tragedy to think about luck. 882 00:43:13,993 --> 00:43:15,828 Had too much-- there's too much hurt 883 00:43:15,828 --> 00:43:17,363 that happened inside of me. 884 00:43:17,363 --> 00:43:20,800 It took me quite a while to rebuild my-- 885 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,168 my sanity again. 886 00:43:22,168 --> 00:43:26,238 I got over it fairly quickly and got on with their life. 887 00:43:26,238 --> 00:43:30,676 There may be lots of other people who weren't as lucky. 888 00:43:30,676 --> 00:43:33,045 JAMES HEYD: You can be going along in life, 889 00:43:33,045 --> 00:43:37,016 and then something can come along and just kind of destroy 890 00:43:37,016 --> 00:43:43,489 your very foundation, or shatter your very foundation, and 891 00:43:43,489 --> 00:43:46,258 through no fault of your own. 892 00:43:46,258 --> 00:43:49,562 But life has a habit of doing that. 893 00:43:49,562 --> 00:43:50,996 But the other thing I can share with them 894 00:43:50,996 --> 00:43:54,333 is that you can recover from it. 895 00:43:54,333 --> 00:43:55,134 There is a tomorrow. 896 00:43:55,134 --> 00:43:57,169 [hopeful music] 69082

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