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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:59,517 --> 00:01:03,642 WIM WENDERS: A film about the life of a photographer? 2 00:01:03,758 --> 00:01:05,427 Maybe it's good at the beginning 3 00:01:05,519 --> 00:01:08,653 to remember where the word comes from. 4 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,863 In Greek, "photo" meant "light." 5 00:01:10,961 --> 00:01:13,904 "Graph" was "writing, drawing." 6 00:01:15,002 --> 00:01:19,489 A photographer is literally somebody drawing with light. 7 00:01:19,604 --> 00:01:24,519 A man writing and rewriting the world with light and shadows. 8 00:01:43,053 --> 00:01:44,011 (SEBASTI�O SALGADO SPEAKING FRENCH) 9 00:01:44,093 --> 00:01:47,147 The Serra-Pelada, Brazil's gold mine... 10 00:01:47,254 --> 00:01:48,731 there before me! 11 00:01:50,776 --> 00:01:54,664 When I reached the edge of that enormous hole... 12 00:01:55,778 --> 00:01:58,044 every hair on my body stood on end. 13 00:01:58,139 --> 00:02:02,231 I'd never seen anything like it. 14 00:02:03,780 --> 00:02:07,793 Here, in a split second, I saw unfolding before me... 15 00:02:07,942 --> 00:02:09,892 the history of mankind... 16 00:02:09,983 --> 00:02:13,117 The building of the pyramids... 17 00:02:13,264 --> 00:02:15,011 the Tower of Babel... 18 00:02:15,104 --> 00:02:16,976 the mines of King Solomon... 19 00:02:17,626 --> 00:02:21,357 Not the sound of a single machine could be heard. 20 00:02:22,468 --> 00:02:24,181 All you could hear... 21 00:02:24,868 --> 00:02:29,828 was the babble of 50,000 people in one huge hole. 22 00:02:32,311 --> 00:02:34,734 Conversations, noises, human sounds... 23 00:02:34,832 --> 00:02:37,696 mingled with the sounds of manual labor... 24 00:02:39,154 --> 00:02:41,736 I had returned to the dawn of time. 25 00:02:43,355 --> 00:02:47,480 I could almost hear the gold whispering in the souls of these men. 26 00:02:50,958 --> 00:02:52,671 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 27 00:03:00,441 --> 00:03:01,433 (SEBASTI�O SPEAKING FRENCH) 28 00:03:01,522 --> 00:03:03,822 All this earth had to be removed. 29 00:03:03,923 --> 00:03:05,512 It's not all gold. 30 00:03:05,603 --> 00:03:09,729 The guys had to climb small ladders... 31 00:03:09,885 --> 00:03:12,151 leading to bigger ones... 32 00:03:12,246 --> 00:03:13,881 to emerge at the top. 33 00:03:25,251 --> 00:03:27,753 You wouldn't want to fall down there! 34 00:03:30,453 --> 00:03:34,184 If you fell from the top you'd risk taking others with you. 35 00:03:37,256 --> 00:03:40,040 I'd climb up several times a day... 36 00:03:40,176 --> 00:03:42,476 but I never thought I'd fall. 37 00:03:42,577 --> 00:03:44,876 Nobody else fell. 38 00:03:45,098 --> 00:03:47,161 You were there to carry sacks, not to fall. 39 00:03:47,259 --> 00:03:49,716 And in my case, to take photos. 40 00:03:55,982 --> 00:03:59,747 These guys climbed it 50 or 60 times a day. 41 00:04:02,825 --> 00:04:06,590 The only way to get down such a slope... 42 00:04:06,707 --> 00:04:08,296 is by running. 43 00:04:08,387 --> 00:04:11,171 If you stop, you fall. 44 00:04:20,231 --> 00:04:24,594 All these men together formed an extremely organized world... 45 00:04:24,713 --> 00:04:27,170 but in complete madness. 46 00:04:40,639 --> 00:04:44,009 You get the impression they're slaves... 47 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,460 but there wasn't a single slave. 48 00:04:46,601 --> 00:04:50,851 They were only slaves to the idea of getting rich. 49 00:04:51,523 --> 00:04:53,349 Everybody wanted to get rich. 50 00:04:55,164 --> 00:05:00,801 There were all sorts: intellectuals, university graduates... 51 00:05:00,927 --> 00:05:03,666 farm employees... 52 00:05:03,847 --> 00:05:06,474 urban workers... 53 00:05:06,569 --> 00:05:09,860 People from all walks of life were trying their luck. 54 00:05:12,051 --> 00:05:16,063 Because when you'd hit a vein of gold... 55 00:05:16,692 --> 00:05:21,449 everyone working that little section of the mine... 56 00:05:21,574 --> 00:05:24,437 had the right to choose one sack. 57 00:05:25,095 --> 00:05:27,755 And in that sack that they chose... 58 00:05:27,897 --> 00:05:30,039 - and this is the slavery aspect- 59 00:05:30,137 --> 00:05:34,184 there might be nothing or a kilo of gold! 60 00:05:35,179 --> 00:05:38,436 At that very moment one's freedom was at stake. 61 00:05:40,862 --> 00:05:44,356 Men who come into contact with gold... 62 00:05:44,462 --> 00:05:46,051 can never leave it. 63 00:05:56,587 --> 00:06:00,002 WENDERS: I first saw this picture here, in a gallery, 64 00:06:00,108 --> 00:06:02,408 more than 20 years ago. 65 00:06:02,510 --> 00:06:04,889 I had no idea who took it. 66 00:06:04,991 --> 00:06:08,170 Whoever it was had to be both a great photographer 67 00:06:08,272 --> 00:06:11,056 and an adventurer, I thought. 68 00:06:11,153 --> 00:06:13,780 There was a stamp on the back and a signature, 69 00:06:13,874 --> 00:06:16,456 Sebasti�o Salgado. 70 00:06:16,555 --> 00:06:18,854 I acquired the print. 71 00:06:19,836 --> 00:06:22,102 The gallerist pulled other pictures, 72 00:06:22,197 --> 00:06:24,936 by the same photographer, from a drawer. 73 00:06:25,037 --> 00:06:27,821 What I saw profoundly moved me, 74 00:06:27,919 --> 00:06:30,579 especially this image here, 75 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,701 a portrait of a blind Tuareg woman. 76 00:06:35,882 --> 00:06:39,332 It still moves me to tears, even if I see it every day, 77 00:06:39,443 --> 00:06:43,050 as it's hanging over my desk ever since. 78 00:06:43,164 --> 00:06:47,527 So one thing I knew already about this Sebasti�o Salgado, 79 00:06:47,646 --> 00:06:50,307 he really cared about people. 80 00:06:50,408 --> 00:06:53,225 That meant a lot, in my book. 81 00:06:53,328 --> 00:06:56,980 After all, people are the salt of the earth. 82 00:06:59,210 --> 00:07:03,021 It took a while until we finally met and talked 83 00:07:03,132 --> 00:07:05,082 about his life, his work, 84 00:07:05,173 --> 00:07:07,799 and where it was all coming from. 85 00:07:40,946 --> 00:07:41,983 (SEBASTI�O SPEAKING FRENCH) 86 00:07:42,066 --> 00:07:47,026 If you put too many photographers in one place... 87 00:07:47,148 --> 00:07:50,124 they'll all take very different pictures. 88 00:07:51,270 --> 00:07:54,764 Because they necessarily come... 89 00:07:55,471 --> 00:07:58,808 from very diverse places. 90 00:07:59,553 --> 00:08:02,687 Each one forms their way of seeing... 91 00:08:04,075 --> 00:08:07,175 according to their history. 92 00:08:09,076 --> 00:08:11,218 I feel that in my case... 93 00:08:11,317 --> 00:08:16,153 I learned to shape my way of seeing here, in this place. 94 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,263 Here I have an idea of the planet. 95 00:08:21,561 --> 00:08:24,852 I'd go for long walks with my father... 96 00:08:25,003 --> 00:08:26,795 across this farm. 97 00:08:26,883 --> 00:08:29,103 We'd come here to look. 98 00:08:29,204 --> 00:08:30,196 (BIRD CHIRPING) 99 00:08:32,125 --> 00:08:33,117 (SEBASTI�O SPEAKING FRENCH) 100 00:08:33,246 --> 00:08:38,488 Behind each mountain there's a story, there's something to see. 101 00:08:38,647 --> 00:08:40,123 (SINGING QUIETLY) 102 00:08:42,209 --> 00:08:43,201 (SHUTTER CLICKING) 103 00:08:45,691 --> 00:08:46,728 (SEBASTI�O SPEAKING FRENCH) 104 00:08:46,811 --> 00:08:48,683 I'd dream a lot here. 105 00:08:50,172 --> 00:08:53,305 I wanted to go beyond the mountains, I wanted to know. 106 00:09:37,390 --> 00:09:38,901 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 107 00:09:45,993 --> 00:09:47,424 (BIRDS SINGING) 108 00:10:16,564 --> 00:10:18,988 (CONVERSING IN LOCAL LANGUAGE) 109 00:10:24,367 --> 00:10:25,596 (CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING) (ALL LAUGHING) 110 00:10:29,249 --> 00:10:30,647 (MAN SPEAKING LOCAL LANGUAGE) 111 00:10:32,650 --> 00:10:33,800 (CHILDREN LAUGHING) 112 00:10:40,293 --> 00:10:41,611 (MAN SPEAKING LOCAL LANGUAGE) 113 00:11:37,554 --> 00:11:41,409 (ALL CHANTING IN LOCAL LANGUAGE) 114 00:11:48,879 --> 00:11:50,671 (ALL SINGING) 115 00:12:01,883 --> 00:12:03,675 (SINGING CONTINUING) 116 00:12:22,451 --> 00:12:24,435 (SPEAKING GENTLY) 117 00:12:32,094 --> 00:12:33,086 Hmm? 118 00:12:56,344 --> 00:12:58,170 (BIRDS CALLING) 119 00:13:19,393 --> 00:13:20,384 (SEBASTI�O SR. SPEAKING PORTUGUESE) 120 00:13:20,512 --> 00:13:22,936 Sebasti�o was such a rascal! 121 00:13:23,034 --> 00:13:25,379 He was always traveling... 122 00:13:25,515 --> 00:13:27,577 like no one I'd ever seen. 123 00:13:27,675 --> 00:13:31,767 My dad was the same, he never stopped. 124 00:13:31,877 --> 00:13:34,695 Back and forth, like a shuttle. 125 00:13:35,478 --> 00:13:36,910 Just like Sebasti�o. 126 00:13:37,079 --> 00:13:40,336 You'd think he was in Vitoria, but he'd already be here... 127 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,890 or up north doing politics. 128 00:13:44,642 --> 00:13:49,444 Without his fellow students he wouldn't have finished his studies. 129 00:13:51,764 --> 00:13:54,391 Tiao was a scamp when it came to studying. 130 00:13:54,485 --> 00:13:58,250 He was a handful, but he managed to get his economics degree. 131 00:14:00,408 --> 00:14:03,350 I wanted him to be a lawyer. 132 00:14:03,489 --> 00:14:04,684 He did one year... 133 00:14:04,769 --> 00:14:08,816 then switched to economics, which was good for him. 134 00:14:11,051 --> 00:14:13,948 WENDERS: That was Sebasti�o Salgado. 135 00:14:14,052 --> 00:14:16,194 The father, that is. 136 00:14:16,774 --> 00:14:19,592 He passed his name on to his only son, who, 137 00:14:19,695 --> 00:14:23,707 even if he remained a restless traveler for all his life, 138 00:14:23,816 --> 00:14:27,942 did profit from the studies his dad had obliged him to 139 00:14:28,578 --> 00:14:32,343 in ways he could not have anticipated himself. 140 00:14:32,460 --> 00:14:35,120 His education as an economist 141 00:14:35,221 --> 00:14:37,363 equipped him with a solid knowledge 142 00:14:37,461 --> 00:14:40,719 of global markets, trade and industry, 143 00:14:40,823 --> 00:14:43,404 so he knew what was driving the world. 144 00:14:45,064 --> 00:14:47,487 For our man, it all started in the little town 145 00:14:47,625 --> 00:14:50,838 of Aimor�s, in central Brazil. 146 00:14:50,946 --> 00:14:54,711 There was his father's cattle farm under the big sky. 147 00:14:54,828 --> 00:14:57,612 There were vast Atlantic rain forests. 148 00:14:57,709 --> 00:15:01,283 There was the river, still navigable at the time. 149 00:15:01,391 --> 00:15:05,279 But most of all, there were the endless trains running by,
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150 00:15:05,391 --> 00:15:08,806 filled to the brim with minerals and iron ore, 151 00:15:08,953 --> 00:15:11,974 that would go from here into the world. 152 00:15:12,074 --> 00:15:13,866 After all, this was and still is 153 00:15:13,955 --> 00:15:17,766 the biggest mining region on the planet. 154 00:15:17,877 --> 00:15:20,740 This is where young Sebasti�o grew up, 155 00:15:20,837 --> 00:15:23,103 the only boy among seven sisters, 156 00:15:23,198 --> 00:15:24,314 what a life! 157 00:15:25,039 --> 00:15:25,997 (SHUTTER CLICKING) 158 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,182 WENDERS: All summers long, he played on the banks (WATER STREAMING) 159 00:15:28,281 --> 00:15:31,696 of the Rio Doce, the "Sweet River." 160 00:15:32,202 --> 00:15:34,231 That's where you are now. 161 00:15:34,363 --> 00:15:37,936 And here we are, our little documentary crew. 162 00:15:38,124 --> 00:15:39,871 (MAN SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY) 163 00:15:40,004 --> 00:15:42,631 WENDERS: I learned one thing. 164 00:15:42,726 --> 00:15:45,510 Having a photographer in front of your camera 165 00:15:45,607 --> 00:15:48,661 is very different from filming anybody else. 166 00:15:48,768 --> 00:15:52,533 He would not just be there and act like himself, so to speak. 167 00:15:52,810 --> 00:15:56,901 No, by profession, he reacts and responds 168 00:15:57,771 --> 00:16:01,345 using his weapon of choice, his photo camera- (SHUTTER CLICKING) 169 00:16:01,453 --> 00:16:03,245 Our man shoots back. 170 00:16:03,333 --> 00:16:04,325 (SEBASTI�O SPEAKING FRENCH) 171 00:16:04,413 --> 00:16:05,371 Wim, I have a nice shot of you. 172 00:16:05,454 --> 00:16:06,445 (WENDERS SPEAKING FRENCH) 173 00:16:06,574 --> 00:16:07,611 And I got one of you! 174 00:16:07,815 --> 00:16:09,089 I bet you did! 175 00:16:09,255 --> 00:16:12,198 WENDERS: In this case, he wasn't just shooting at me. 176 00:16:12,577 --> 00:16:13,569 Look�. 177 00:16:13,697 --> 00:16:16,120 WENDERS: He had two of us in front of his lens. 178 00:16:16,218 --> 00:16:20,073 The other guy, my fellow director, was his oldest son, Juliano. 179 00:16:20,179 --> 00:16:22,287 He had already accompanied his father 180 00:16:22,381 --> 00:16:24,962 with his camera on several journeys, 181 00:16:25,062 --> 00:16:29,029 like to Papua New Guinea, which you just saw before, 182 00:16:29,142 --> 00:16:31,363 or here, to a remote island 183 00:16:31,464 --> 00:16:34,406 far north on the East Siberian Sea. 184 00:16:34,504 --> 00:16:37,086 I wish I could have gone there, too. 185 00:16:37,186 --> 00:16:38,178 (SHUTTER CLICKING) 186 00:16:38,266 --> 00:16:39,619 (BIRDS SCREECHING) 187 00:16:46,509 --> 00:16:49,136 Father and son Salgado invited me to join them 188 00:16:49,230 --> 00:16:51,653 and continue this film together, 189 00:16:51,751 --> 00:16:54,491 to add an outside view to their adventure, I guess. 190 00:16:55,353 --> 00:16:57,416 I didn't hesitate a bit. 191 00:16:57,514 --> 00:16:59,813 What else could I ask for? 192 00:17:01,035 --> 00:17:03,582 I would finally get to know this man, 193 00:17:03,676 --> 00:17:05,942 find out what was driving him, 194 00:17:06,037 --> 00:17:09,328 and why his work had left such an impression on me. 195 00:17:10,398 --> 00:17:13,656 Little did I know that I was going to discover 196 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,894 much more than just a photographer. 197 00:17:17,001 --> 00:17:19,109 (RAILROAD CROSSING BELL CLANGING) 198 00:17:19,682 --> 00:17:21,080 (WHISTLE BLOWING) 199 00:17:22,043 --> 00:17:25,097 Sebasti�o was 15 years old when he took the train 200 00:17:25,204 --> 00:17:27,661 to leave the little country town for good, 201 00:17:27,764 --> 00:17:31,653 to go to high school in the provincial capital of Vitoria. 202 00:17:31,766 --> 00:17:33,637 Our young man didn't know, at first, 203 00:17:33,727 --> 00:17:36,466 what to do with the money in his pockets. 204 00:17:36,568 --> 00:17:39,195 He had never paid for anything in cash. 205 00:17:39,289 --> 00:17:41,949 At the farm, they had produced everything themselves, 206 00:17:42,050 --> 00:17:44,913 so he stayed hungry during the first weeks in the big city, 207 00:17:45,011 --> 00:17:48,461 afraid of going into a pub and just ordering something to eat. 208 00:17:51,774 --> 00:17:55,145 We are in the dark what Sebasti�o would have become 209 00:17:55,255 --> 00:17:58,625 if this young woman here hadn't entered the picture. 210 00:17:58,736 --> 00:18:00,134 L�lia. 211 00:18:00,577 --> 00:18:04,071 She was 17, a music student, and utterly beautiful. 212 00:18:04,178 --> 00:18:06,365 It was love at first sight. 213 00:18:06,459 --> 00:18:09,672 When Sebasti�o got a scholarship for a master in economics 214 00:18:09,780 --> 00:18:11,764 at a university in S�o Paulo, 215 00:18:11,862 --> 00:18:14,319 they moved there and got married. 216 00:18:15,422 --> 00:18:16,933 (CROWD SHOUTING INDISTINCTLY) 217 00:18:17,063 --> 00:18:18,539 Where in the mid-'60s, 218 00:18:18,623 --> 00:18:21,002 they were both involved in leftist politics, 219 00:18:21,104 --> 00:18:25,275 like a lot of their fellow students in Paris, Berlin or Chicago. 220 00:18:25,626 --> 00:18:28,523 Brazil was under the reign of a brutal military dictatorship, 221 00:18:28,668 --> 00:18:31,689 so there was a daily danger of being arrested, 222 00:18:31,869 --> 00:18:33,977 deported and tortured. 223 00:18:35,830 --> 00:18:38,209 In August of 1969, (SHIP HONKING) 224 00:18:38,671 --> 00:18:41,253 Sebasti�o and L�lia left their home country 225 00:18:41,352 --> 00:18:43,539 and took a boat to France. 226 00:18:45,274 --> 00:18:48,531 While Sebasti�o continued his formation as economist, 227 00:18:48,634 --> 00:18:51,091 L�lia studied architecture. 228 00:18:51,195 --> 00:18:55,006 One memorable day, she bought a photo camera for her work, 229 00:18:55,117 --> 00:18:58,217 and the one who had all the fun with it was Sebasti�o. 230 00:18:58,318 --> 00:19:02,963 The first picture he ever took was of L�lia, of course. 231 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:07,567 And then Sebasti�o got a job at the International Coffee Organization 232 00:19:07,682 --> 00:19:09,553 and they moved to London. 233 00:19:09,642 --> 00:19:11,908 Heading for a career at the World Bank, 234 00:19:12,003 --> 00:19:16,253 he often traveled to Africa to survey development projects. 235 00:19:16,365 --> 00:19:18,428 He would take L�lia's camera with him, 236 00:19:18,927 --> 00:19:22,263 and would always come back with lots of pictures. 237 00:19:23,608 --> 00:19:25,750 Realizing that these photographs 238 00:19:25,889 --> 00:19:29,653 gave him so much more pleasure than his economic reports, 239 00:19:29,810 --> 00:19:33,181 the two of them made a bold decision together. 240 00:19:33,291 --> 00:19:35,241 He should take the enormous risk, 241 00:19:35,892 --> 00:19:40,176 abandon a promising, well-paid career as an economist, 242 00:19:40,294 --> 00:19:42,199 and start from scratch. 243 00:19:43,136 --> 00:19:46,236 They moved back to Paris and invested all they had 244 00:19:46,376 --> 00:19:48,045 in expensive photo equipment. 245 00:19:48,857 --> 00:19:52,588 For a while, Sebasti�o tried his hand at sports, 246 00:19:52,698 --> 00:19:55,990 did portraits, weddings and even nudes, 247 00:19:56,140 --> 00:19:58,440 before he found his vocation. 248 00:20:02,743 --> 00:20:03,734 (SEBASTI�O SPEAKING FRENCH) 249 00:20:03,823 --> 00:20:05,806 These were my first photographs. 250 00:20:06,064 --> 00:20:08,848 We were in the city of Tahoua. 251 00:20:09,585 --> 00:20:12,798 Young mothers were standing in line... 252 00:20:12,907 --> 00:20:15,928 to get some food... 253 00:20:16,028 --> 00:20:21,111 as there'd been a severe drought in Niger in '73. 254 00:20:21,790 --> 00:20:26,276 For L�lia it was tough, because she was pregnant. 255 00:20:26,471 --> 00:20:30,078 I remember, we were in that very place... 256 00:20:30,273 --> 00:20:33,609 living at a friend's home at Niamey... 257 00:20:34,314 --> 00:20:37,177 when the local Marabout came by. 258 00:20:37,315 --> 00:20:41,249 L�lia was wearing shorts, she was really pretty. 259 00:20:42,517 --> 00:20:45,932 And the Marabout sat down... 260 00:20:46,038 --> 00:20:48,022 and said to her... 261 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,464 "Come sit on my lap!" 262 00:20:51,361 --> 00:20:53,266 "Oh," I said... 263 00:20:53,361 --> 00:20:57,295 "Mr. Marabout, there's a slight problem... 264 00:20:57,443 --> 00:21:01,130 "This woman is pregnant... 265 00:21:01,684 --> 00:21:03,556 "with our first child. 266 00:21:03,645 --> 00:21:06,824 "So it's best she stays put." 267 00:21:06,966 --> 00:21:10,653 So he understood that... 268 00:21:12,848 --> 00:21:16,422 it wasn't the right synchronicity. 269 00:21:16,530 --> 00:21:19,900 So we talked it over and he left with a kilo of sugar... 270 00:21:20,051 --> 00:21:22,677 as happy as if it'd been L�lia. 271 00:21:27,534 --> 00:21:31,502 WENDERS: Their son Juliano was born in Paris in 1974. 272 00:21:32,376 --> 00:21:35,555 Here he is, my future pal and co-director. 273 00:21:36,417 --> 00:21:38,717 L�lia continued to support Sebasti�o 274 00:21:38,818 --> 00:21:41,241 with all she could as a young mother. 275 00:21:41,339 --> 00:21:43,289 She worked hard, parallel to her studies, 276 00:21:43,380 --> 00:21:46,593 and presented Sebasti�o's photographs everywhere, 277 00:21:46,701 --> 00:21:49,644 to magazines, newspapers and agencies. 278 00:21:50,342 --> 00:21:54,434 And then, after a few significant publications, 279 00:21:54,544 --> 00:21:56,923 the two of them felt encouraged to envision 280 00:21:57,025 --> 00:22:00,001 a first big photographic project on their own, 281 00:22:00,826 --> 00:22:02,776 Otras Americas. 282 00:22:02,867 --> 00:22:04,851 "The Other Americas." 283 00:22:05,428 --> 00:22:09,791 It was going to take Sebasti�o all across South America. 284 00:22:09,910 --> 00:22:13,089 Little Juliano was getting used to seeing his dad off 285 00:22:13,191 --> 00:22:15,490 for long absences at a time. 286 00:22:21,714 --> 00:22:22,706 (SEBASTI�O SPEAKING FRENCH) 287 00:22:22,794 --> 00:22:26,762 Ever since we'd left Brazil in 1969... 288 00:22:26,956 --> 00:22:31,127 I'd deeply missed South America. 289 00:22:31,278 --> 00:22:33,781 So I decided to travel... 290 00:22:33,879 --> 00:22:36,178 around Brazil's neighboring countries: 291 00:22:36,279 --> 00:22:39,774 Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia... 292 00:22:40,481 --> 00:22:45,363 I dreamt of seeing the mountains of South America... 293 00:22:45,483 --> 00:22:46,802 the Andes. 294 00:22:48,164 --> 00:22:49,877 At the time, in South America... 295 00:22:49,965 --> 00:22:53,696 there was a profound social movement... 296 00:22:53,806 --> 00:22:56,466 the "Liberation Theology". 297 00:22:57,688 --> 00:23:02,523 And on this journey I met a young priest, in Ecuador... 298 00:23:02,649 --> 00:23:04,475 called Gabicho. 299 00:23:04,570 --> 00:23:09,090 We were both young, la photographer, he a priest. 300 00:23:09,212 --> 00:23:11,996 He brought them the word of God... 301 00:23:12,133 --> 00:23:17,960 he organized the farmers into cooperatives, introduced solidarity. 302 00:23:18,136 --> 00:23:21,946 And since he had access to all these communities... 303 00:23:22,097 --> 00:23:25,388 those journeys I made were extraordinary. 304 00:23:29,980 --> 00:23:32,607 There we were, over 3,000 meters up. 305 00:23:32,701 --> 00:23:37,740 We'd climb 600 or 700 meters in a day. 306 00:23:38,663 --> 00:23:42,789 It was a sheer delight to live in this landscape... 307 00:23:42,904 --> 00:23:44,539 among these communities. 308 00:23:47,666 --> 00:23:52,186 These are the Saraguros, a tribe of Indians in the south of Ecuador. 309 00:23:52,308 --> 00:23:57,347 Very religious, but also great drinkers. 310 00:23:58,070 --> 00:24:02,715 Over half of them, at the weekend, men and women... 311 00:24:02,831 --> 00:24:04,973 would get totally drunk. 312 00:24:08,114 --> 00:24:10,143 The villager on the left... 313 00:24:10,795 --> 00:24:13,658 his name is Lupe, Guadalupe... 314 00:24:13,756 --> 00:24:17,407 Lupe and I became very close. 315 00:24:18,118 --> 00:24:21,252 At the time I had very long hair... 316 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,264 long blond hair... 317 00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:26,539 with a big, reddish blond beard. 318 00:24:29,081 --> 00:24:31,742 Walking with him through the mountains... 319 00:24:31,843 --> 00:24:35,450 one day he said to me, "Listen, Sebasti�o. 320 00:24:35,605 --> 00:24:38,581 "I know that you were sent from heaven." 321 00:24:38,685 --> 00:24:42,540 According to the Saraguros' legends... 322 00:24:42,686 --> 00:24:46,451 God, in the image of Christ... 323 00:24:46,568 --> 00:24:51,010 was to return to Earth to observe them... 324 00:24:51,170 --> 00:24:53,752 to decide who'd go to heaven. 325 00:24:53,851 --> 00:24:59,488 As we walked in the mountains, he told me about his life. 326 00:25:01,494 --> 00:25:06,577 He seriously believed that I'd come as a special observer... 327 00:25:06,695 --> 00:25:10,427 to report "up there" about their behavior. 328 00:25:14,339 --> 00:25:19,457 Never in my life had I met a people... 329 00:25:19,580 --> 00:25:23,030 with such a different sense of time. 330 00:25:24,942 --> 00:25:29,902 The time I spent with the Saraguros felt like an entire century... 331 00:25:30,025 --> 00:25:32,290 everything felt so slow. 332 00:25:32,906 --> 00:25:36,355 It was another way of thinking, a different rhythm. 333 00:25:39,068 --> 00:25:41,852 There was a fatalism on their faces. 334 00:25:45,390 --> 00:25:48,445 This is in the state of Oaxaca, in Mexico. 335 00:25:48,552 --> 00:25:52,046 A group of farmers called the Mixe. 336 00:25:54,273 --> 00:25:58,681 It's all medieval, the yoke, the plow... 337 00:26:01,516 --> 00:26:04,333 This is deepest South America. 338 00:26:06,078 --> 00:26:08,817 They were a country people... 339 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,973 but what mattered most to them... 340 00:26:13,081 --> 00:26:14,479 was music. 341 00:26:14,561 --> 00:26:17,818 They were people who adored music. 342 00:26:18,763 --> 00:26:24,038 Every member of the community able to play an instrument... 343 00:26:24,684 --> 00:26:27,063 didn't have to do any work... 344 00:26:27,165 --> 00:26:29,274 they worked as musicians. 345 00:26:29,367 --> 00:26:31,316 (MUSIC PLAYING) 346 00:26:33,048 --> 00:26:34,040 (SEBASTI�O SPEAKING FRENCH) 347 00:26:34,128 --> 00:26:37,228 They had me sleep for several days... 348 00:26:37,329 --> 00:26:41,297 in a very cold cement room... 349 00:26:41,411 --> 00:26:45,537 to see if I could bear it, if I really wanted to stay... 350 00:26:45,733 --> 00:26:48,551 As I held out for quite awhile... 351 00:26:48,654 --> 00:26:51,674 they finally put me up in a house... 352 00:26:51,815 --> 00:26:54,758 and I grew much closer to the community. 353 00:26:54,856 --> 00:26:56,490 It was a pleasure for me. 354 00:26:56,657 --> 00:27:00,309 We became close friends, I felt good there. 355 00:27:08,221 --> 00:27:12,392 This is in the north of Mexico. The Tarahumara. 356 00:27:13,102 --> 00:27:17,431 These people are great runners, long-distance runners. 357 00:27:17,544 --> 00:27:19,336 They don't walk, they run. 358 00:27:19,946 --> 00:27:22,842 God, it was hell trying to keep up. 359 00:27:22,986 --> 00:27:25,692 They didn't walk, they flew! 360 00:27:32,630 --> 00:27:33,904 (VIOLIN PLAYING) 361 00:27:34,230 --> 00:27:35,865 That's a Tarahumara... 362 00:27:35,992 --> 00:27:40,320 his face deeply marked by life. 363 00:27:43,474 --> 00:27:46,371 Beautiful hair, fantastic hair. 364 00:27:49,156 --> 00:27:52,210 People would approach my camera... 365 00:27:52,317 --> 00:27:56,522 and I had the impression I was more a sound recorder. 366 00:27:57,919 --> 00:28:02,248 They'd tell me things as if I was recording their stories. 367 00:28:07,924 --> 00:28:12,883 The power of a portrait lies in that fraction of a second... 368 00:28:13,606 --> 00:28:17,934 when you catch a glimpse of that person's life. 369 00:28:18,087 --> 00:28:21,852 The eyes say a lot, the expression on the face... 370 00:28:24,569 --> 00:28:27,906 When you take a portrait, the shot is not yours alone. 371 00:28:28,051 --> 00:28:30,350 The person offers it to you. 372 00:28:35,013 --> 00:28:37,831 Those journeys meant so much to me. 373 00:28:39,815 --> 00:28:42,035 To come here after all those years, 374 00:28:42,136 --> 00:28:45,157 unable to set foot in my own country. 375 00:28:45,257 --> 00:28:49,619 The essence was the same. It was my continent, we were so close. 376 00:28:51,500 --> 00:28:55,986 WENDERS: Otras Americas took Sebasti�o eight years. 377 00:28:56,101 --> 00:28:59,155 On these journeys into the deepest South America, 378 00:28:59,262 --> 00:29:03,625 he simply disappeared for extended periods of time. 379 00:29:03,744 --> 00:29:07,791 Juliano largely grew up with an absent father. 380 00:29:08,226 --> 00:29:11,641 His parents could at least write letters back and forth. 381 00:29:11,747 --> 00:29:15,996 This was, of course, long before any satellite communication. 382 00:29:17,309 --> 00:29:19,338 Whenever he came home in between, 383 00:29:19,430 --> 00:29:23,241 to see his family and to edit his photos together with L�lia, 384 00:29:23,352 --> 00:29:26,959 Sebasti�o appeared like a great adventurer to his son, 385 00:29:27,073 --> 00:29:30,804 some kind of superhero, rather than a photographer. 386 00:29:30,914 --> 00:29:32,233 And jump cut... 387 00:29:33,555 --> 00:29:36,012 JULIANO: ...to me, 30 years later. 388 00:29:36,716 --> 00:29:40,763 I finally join my father on one of his missions 389 00:29:40,878 --> 00:29:45,003 to Wrangel, a deserted island in the Arctic Ocean. 390 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,303 Sebasti�o was hoping to photograph 391 00:29:48,401 --> 00:29:51,343 the last big congregations of walruses. 392 00:29:52,442 --> 00:29:55,463 I wanted to find out who that man was, 393 00:29:55,563 --> 00:29:58,697 the man I had only known as my father. 394 00:30:01,166 --> 00:30:04,660 I wanted to discover the photographer, 395 00:30:04,807 --> 00:30:07,309 the adventurer, for the first time. 396 00:30:33,298 --> 00:30:34,448 (BELLOWING) 397 00:30:44,022 --> 00:30:45,453 (DEEP GRUNTING) 398 00:31:13,432 --> 00:31:14,943 (DEEP GRUNTING) 399 00:31:29,879 --> 00:31:30,870 (SEBASTI�O SPEAKING PORTUGUESE) 400 00:31:30,958 --> 00:31:32,942 Goddamn bear! 401 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,551 He tricked us. 402 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,531 He drove them all into the water. Incredible! 403 00:31:43,684 --> 00:31:44,675 (GRUNTING) 404 00:31:55,048 --> 00:31:56,198 (DOOR OPENING) 405 00:31:57,369 --> 00:31:58,880 (BEAR GRUNTING IN DISTANCE) 406 00:32:12,935 --> 00:32:13,926 (SHUTTER CLICKING) 407 00:32:16,256 --> 00:32:17,293 (JULIANO SPEAKING PORTUGUESE) 408 00:32:17,376 --> 00:32:19,089 What do you think? 409 00:32:19,937 --> 00:32:22,000 What do you think, Dad? 410 00:32:22,098 --> 00:32:23,056 (SPEAKING PORTUGUESE) 411 00:32:23,138 --> 00:32:25,922 I think it'll be complicated to get this story. 412 00:32:29,501 --> 00:32:31,373 If this is all we've got... 413 00:32:36,783 --> 00:32:38,181 (HUFFING) 414 00:32:45,907 --> 00:32:46,865 (SEBASTI�O SPEAKING SOFTLY) 415 00:32:46,987 --> 00:32:49,207 It's not just a matter 416 00:32:49,308 --> 00:32:52,882 of getting close to a bear and taking a picture. 417 00:32:52,990 --> 00:32:55,616 If the framing is poor... 418 00:32:55,750 --> 00:32:59,639 you'll just show the bear, but it won't be a photo. 419 00:33:00,352 --> 00:33:03,170 This spot is no good. 420 00:33:03,313 --> 00:33:05,974 There's nothing in the background... 421 00:33:06,075 --> 00:33:09,332 nothing to compose a well-framed picture. 422 00:33:14,758 --> 00:33:17,215 No action, nothing. 423 00:33:54,732 --> 00:33:55,724 (GRUNTING) 424 00:34:14,500 --> 00:34:16,135 (SNORING SOFTLY) 425 00:34:22,062 --> 00:34:23,291 (WIND WHISTLING) 426 00:35:27,607 --> 00:35:29,513 (WIND WHISTLING) 427 00:35:39,492 --> 00:35:41,081 (GRUNTING) 428 00:35:41,212 --> 00:35:42,204 (CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING) 429 00:35:52,136 --> 00:35:53,455 (DEEP GRUNTING) 430 00:36:12,664 --> 00:36:14,175 (CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING) 431 00:36:51,318 --> 00:36:52,310 (SEBASTI�O SPEAKING PORTUGUESE) 432 00:36:52,399 --> 00:36:53,875 Stunning! 433 00:36:53,959 --> 00:36:57,375 All I could see was the shape of their tusks. 434 00:36:57,481 --> 00:37:00,817 Impossible to make out the outline of their heads. 435 00:37:00,962 --> 00:37:03,668 It was like being in Dante's Inferno... 436 00:37:03,803 --> 00:37:05,911 with those tusks protruding... 437 00:37:06,044 --> 00:37:08,309 All those shapes... Incredible! 438 00:37:16,487 --> 00:37:17,963 (WATER FLOWING) 439 00:37:28,412 --> 00:37:29,404 (JULIANO SPEAKING PORTUGUESE) 440 00:37:29,493 --> 00:37:33,066 Dad, what happened in 1979? 441 00:37:35,455 --> 00:37:36,447 (SEBASTI�O SPEAKING PORTUGUESE) 442 00:37:36,535 --> 00:37:40,345 In '79, L�lia was pregnant with our second son. 443 00:37:40,497 --> 00:37:42,684 We knew it was a boy. 444 00:37:44,538 --> 00:37:46,804 When Rodrigo was born... 445 00:37:46,939 --> 00:37:51,380 he had all the signs of Down's syndrome. 446 00:37:52,501 --> 00:37:56,108 He was so cute with his slanted eyes... 447 00:37:56,222 --> 00:38:00,156 I felt he was completely normal. 448 00:38:00,263 --> 00:38:02,056 So did L�lia. 449 00:38:02,665 --> 00:38:08,933 The doctor did a lot of tests. It was three weeks before we knew. 450 00:38:09,067 --> 00:38:11,209 On the day he called... 451 00:38:12,508 --> 00:38:15,326 the tension was such... 452 00:38:15,430 --> 00:38:17,977 that when I heard the results, I cried. 453 00:38:18,070 --> 00:38:20,133 I couldn't stop crying. 454 00:38:25,514 --> 00:38:27,700 JULIANO: My baby brother was never going 455 00:38:27,794 --> 00:38:31,966 to be able to go to school or learn how to read and write 456 00:38:32,076 --> 00:38:33,350 like I would. 457 00:38:33,436 --> 00:38:35,341 Rodrigo would be isolated in a world 458 00:38:35,437 --> 00:38:37,387 we would never be able to share. 459 00:38:38,198 --> 00:38:40,622 This was very hard on my parents. 460 00:38:41,199 --> 00:38:43,386 But then something happened. 461 00:38:44,281 --> 00:38:47,854 Through his love, Rodrigo developed a language of his own. 462 00:38:48,922 --> 00:38:51,031 Slowly, as a family, 463 00:38:51,123 --> 00:38:53,828 we learned to decipher his emotional alphabet 464 00:38:53,924 --> 00:38:56,629 and to communicate without words. 465 00:39:01,006 --> 00:39:05,369 Sometime later, my mum, my brother and I took an airplane to Brazil. 466 00:39:05,489 --> 00:39:08,228 The military dictatorship had crumbled. 467 00:39:08,329 --> 00:39:10,876 I was five, and I didn't really understand 468 00:39:10,970 --> 00:39:14,150 how important that long trip was going to be. 469 00:39:14,972 --> 00:39:18,230 At some point, a man opened one of the blinds, 470 00:39:18,333 --> 00:39:21,670 and direct sunlight poured into the airplane. 471 00:39:22,334 --> 00:39:25,074 His voice echoed through the cabin, 472 00:39:25,176 --> 00:39:27,284 "We're flying over Brazil." 473 00:39:27,376 --> 00:39:30,871 My mum looked through the window and went silent. 474 00:39:30,978 --> 00:39:36,096 She was seeing her own country for the first time, after so many years. 475 00:39:36,220 --> 00:39:40,425 It was such a happy moment, and yet, when she turned to me, 476 00:39:40,541 --> 00:39:42,367 she was crying. 477 00:39:45,343 --> 00:39:47,292 As for my father, he was in French Guiana 478 00:39:47,384 --> 00:39:49,729 and was going to join us later. 479 00:39:50,625 --> 00:39:51,617 (SPEAKING FRENCH) 480 00:39:51,705 --> 00:39:54,489 It was December 31, I'd returned to Brazil! 481 00:39:54,586 --> 00:39:57,563 It was great to be home... 482 00:39:58,308 --> 00:40:01,362 after ten and a half years abroad. 483 00:40:02,109 --> 00:40:06,911 It was a shock. L�lia's hometown wasn't the same. 484 00:40:07,671 --> 00:40:11,323 Vitoria had changed a lot. Everything was different. 485 00:40:12,593 --> 00:40:15,050 My region had changed a lot too. 486 00:40:15,154 --> 00:40:20,633 When I left my parents, they were young and strong. 487 00:40:20,756 --> 00:40:25,164 Upon returning, I found an old man. My father had aged a lot. 488 00:40:26,198 --> 00:40:27,427 But at that time... 489 00:40:27,519 --> 00:40:30,889 I wanted to explore Brazil more deeply. 490 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,983 My sister lent me a car... 491 00:40:35,242 --> 00:40:38,579 and I made a six-month journey in the North-East of Brazil. 492 00:40:38,723 --> 00:40:40,786 I didn't know the North-East. 493 00:40:40,884 --> 00:40:44,175 I'd always dreamt of that part of Brazil. 494 00:41:06,933 --> 00:41:09,751 These people were going to a funeral. 495 00:41:10,495 --> 00:41:14,620 I stopped by the roadside and went with them. 496 00:41:16,457 --> 00:41:21,970 Infant mortality was very high in the North-East of Brazil. 497 00:41:22,099 --> 00:41:24,996 These children died before they were baptized. 498 00:41:27,701 --> 00:41:30,959 They believe that children who are not baptized... 499 00:41:31,862 --> 00:41:34,759 don't have the right to go to heaven. 500 00:41:35,344 --> 00:41:37,926 They stay in an in-between realm... 501 00:41:38,025 --> 00:41:39,536 called limbo. 502 00:41:41,267 --> 00:41:45,989 If a child dies with its eyes closed it's because it was baptized. 503 00:41:46,148 --> 00:41:47,816 If its eyes are open... 504 00:41:47,909 --> 00:41:51,358 they leave them open so it can find its way. 505 00:41:51,510 --> 00:41:55,478 Otherwise it will wander for eternity. 506 00:42:04,595 --> 00:42:08,879 Back then, there was a service for renting coffins at the church. 507 00:42:09,036 --> 00:42:11,381 You could rent a coffin cheaply. 508 00:42:12,318 --> 00:42:15,135 It'd be used dozens of times. 509 00:42:22,282 --> 00:42:25,731 There you can see such a coffin rental service. 510 00:42:29,204 --> 00:42:31,312 And yes, those are shoes. 511 00:42:31,405 --> 00:42:35,891 They sold everything: shoes, coffins, bananas, vegetables... 512 00:42:36,046 --> 00:42:38,628 ice-cream, everything... 513 00:42:40,088 --> 00:42:44,654 It's a region where life and death are very close. 514 00:42:49,131 --> 00:42:53,223 Here's a group saying prayers... 515 00:42:53,333 --> 00:42:56,590 and learning about politics at the same time. 516 00:42:58,094 --> 00:43:01,149 In Brazil there was, and still is... 517 00:43:01,256 --> 00:43:04,435 a big movement called the "Landless Workers". 518 00:43:04,537 --> 00:43:09,103 Many of them came from here... 519 00:43:10,060 --> 00:43:12,517 from the North-East of Brazil. 520 00:43:12,620 --> 00:43:14,333 (WORKERS SHOUTING) 521 00:43:18,423 --> 00:43:19,414 (SEBASTI�O SPEAKING FRENCH) 522 00:43:19,503 --> 00:43:20,494 These people... 523 00:43:20,623 --> 00:43:23,486 have a moral strength... 524 00:43:23,584 --> 00:43:26,448 a physical force... 525 00:43:26,546 --> 00:43:30,435 even though they're frail and eat poorly. 526 00:43:31,947 --> 00:43:35,318 Look how arid this region is. 527 00:43:36,789 --> 00:43:40,126 It's like a piece of the Sahel in Brazil. 528 00:43:43,631 --> 00:43:45,615 Here, on the road... 529 00:43:45,713 --> 00:43:48,531 people are leaving, never to return. 530 00:43:49,354 --> 00:43:52,093 Sometimes it's so dry, so difficult here... 531 00:43:52,195 --> 00:43:54,935 that people migrate to the southern cities. 532 00:43:55,036 --> 00:43:58,170 For them it's over, they abandon the land. 533 00:44:24,767 --> 00:44:25,759 (SEBASTI�O SR. SPEAKING PORTUGUESE) 534 00:44:25,847 --> 00:44:27,516 For many years now... 535 00:44:27,608 --> 00:44:31,936 we've been suffering from a lack of rain. 536 00:44:41,974 --> 00:44:47,137 There were a lot of cattle here before... 537 00:44:47,255 --> 00:44:49,476 but they're all gone now. 538 00:44:50,537 --> 00:44:52,442 There have been severe droughts. 539 00:44:52,537 --> 00:44:56,224 The pastures are gone, it doesn't pay anymore. 540 00:44:56,939 --> 00:44:57,897 (JULIANO SPEAKING PORTUGUESE) 541 00:44:57,979 --> 00:44:59,130 Why has it gone, Grandfather? 542 00:44:59,220 --> 00:45:01,486 Because of the drought. 543 00:45:03,782 --> 00:45:08,111 We replanted, but there's not a blade of grass left. 544 00:45:08,263 --> 00:45:10,247 It wasn't that long ago. 545 00:45:10,984 --> 00:45:13,204 Your dad and I... 546 00:45:13,345 --> 00:45:16,321 we spent more than 20,000. 547 00:45:16,826 --> 00:45:17,942 Where did it go? 548 00:45:19,908 --> 00:45:21,970 This land was so plentiful. 549 00:45:22,669 --> 00:45:27,314 There were lots of birds... 550 00:45:27,430 --> 00:45:30,643 canaries and ticoticos... 551 00:45:31,792 --> 00:45:33,303 blackbirds... 552 00:45:34,753 --> 00:45:38,518 There used to be a great forest on that hill... 553 00:45:38,635 --> 00:45:42,321 and another forest over that hill. 554 00:45:43,436 --> 00:45:46,220 There has been a lot of erosion. 555 00:45:46,317 --> 00:45:48,189 The hills are now barren. 556 00:45:48,278 --> 00:45:50,825 When it rains... 557 00:45:50,919 --> 00:45:54,571 there's nothing to hold back the water. 558 00:45:54,721 --> 00:45:56,704 It's a disaster. 559 00:45:57,602 --> 00:45:59,665 I have no idea... 560 00:46:00,283 --> 00:46:03,180 how to stop it. 561 00:46:10,567 --> 00:46:11,559 (JULIANO SPEAKING PORTUGUESE) 562 00:46:11,647 --> 00:46:14,984 Grandpa, were you happy on this farm? 563 00:46:15,089 --> 00:46:16,080 Sorry? 564 00:46:16,168 --> 00:46:17,160 (JULIANO SPEAKING PORTUGUESE) 565 00:46:17,249 --> 00:46:18,726 Were you happy here? 566 00:46:19,289 --> 00:46:20,958 (REPEATING QUESTION LOUDER) 567 00:46:21,091 --> 00:46:22,365 Was I happy? 568 00:46:22,451 --> 00:46:25,393 I was, because I was able to provide an education... 569 00:46:25,492 --> 00:46:28,672 for my seven daughters... 570 00:46:28,774 --> 00:46:31,119 and Sebasti�o. 571 00:46:31,255 --> 00:46:34,434 I raised my children, it was tough... 572 00:46:34,535 --> 00:46:36,091 but I'm happy I did it. 573 00:46:39,377 --> 00:46:43,424 I earned 100,000 from the woods alone... 574 00:46:43,539 --> 00:46:45,759 to put the children through school. 575 00:46:45,859 --> 00:46:47,607 They were all brought up well... 576 00:46:47,700 --> 00:46:51,115 well fed, properly dressed... 577 00:46:57,224 --> 00:46:59,017 JULIANO: Since I first came to Brazil, 578 00:46:59,105 --> 00:47:01,528 my grandfather's land had always been this way, 579 00:47:02,145 --> 00:47:05,279 burnt and dried out. (MOOING) 580 00:47:05,827 --> 00:47:07,890 When Sebasti�o came back to the farm 581 00:47:07,988 --> 00:47:10,570 after his journeys through North-East Brazil, 582 00:47:10,669 --> 00:47:15,268 the place was hardly the paradise he had known as a child. 583 00:47:15,391 --> 00:47:18,445 But he had something else on his mind, 584 00:47:18,552 --> 00:47:21,731 the suffering he had witnessed changed him. 585 00:47:22,713 --> 00:47:26,287 His role as a photographer took on a whole new meaning. 586 00:47:26,435 --> 00:47:29,568 We understood the urgency he felt to leave. 587 00:47:31,517 --> 00:47:33,659 I still missed him a lot. 588 00:47:35,198 --> 00:47:37,103 But I understood. 589 00:47:48,523 --> 00:47:53,202 For his next project, which would take him to the Sahel region of Africa, 590 00:47:53,325 --> 00:47:57,056 Sebasti�o started to work with Doctors Without Borders. 591 00:48:01,047 --> 00:48:02,085 (SEBASTI�O SPEAKING FRENCH) 592 00:48:02,168 --> 00:48:05,347 I worked in Ethiopia in 1984... 593 00:48:06,370 --> 00:48:11,126 and continued across the Sahel in '85 and '86. 594 00:48:11,251 --> 00:48:15,062 I spent almost two years in that region... 595 00:48:15,213 --> 00:48:18,584 reporting on the famine. 596 00:48:21,935 --> 00:48:24,156 There were refugee camps... 597 00:48:24,257 --> 00:48:27,357 the largest ever seen in human history. 598 00:48:27,937 --> 00:48:30,834 And I really wanted to show that. 599 00:48:30,938 --> 00:48:35,064 To show that a large part of humanity... 600 00:48:35,220 --> 00:48:38,163 was suffering from great distress... 601 00:48:38,261 --> 00:48:41,913 due to a problem of sharing... 602 00:48:42,543 --> 00:48:45,880 and not just a natural disaster. 603 00:48:48,786 --> 00:48:51,492 This was a Coptic region. 604 00:48:51,626 --> 00:48:55,718 They are very strict Christians, the Northern Ethiopians. 605 00:48:55,828 --> 00:48:58,488 They have great humility. 606 00:48:58,589 --> 00:49:01,295 Even with a dying child... 607 00:49:01,430 --> 00:49:04,090 they wouldn't get in front of others. 608 00:49:04,191 --> 00:49:05,543 They'd rather wait. 609 00:49:12,634 --> 00:49:14,776 Look at the state of the people. 610 00:49:17,436 --> 00:49:20,300 At that stage, they've no strength left. 611 00:49:21,517 --> 00:49:24,967 They say people die of famine. 612 00:49:25,079 --> 00:49:28,653 Famine weakens the body... 613 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,664 but it's the parallel diseases that kill. 614 00:49:33,842 --> 00:49:38,250 When you catch cholera, the dehydration is so fast... 615 00:49:38,364 --> 00:49:42,884 that you lose 12 liters of water a day from diarrhea. 616 00:49:43,646 --> 00:49:45,675 You die in two or three days. 617 00:49:50,929 --> 00:49:52,879 Such young faces... 618 00:49:53,969 --> 00:49:57,621 aged from so much suffering. 619 00:49:58,371 --> 00:50:01,708 If you look at his forehead, he's not an old man. 620 00:50:01,813 --> 00:50:04,913 What's old about him is the emptiness in his eyes. 621 00:50:05,735 --> 00:50:08,992 Look how young she is, look at their baby! 622 00:50:09,615 --> 00:50:11,092 He's her husband. 623 00:50:15,938 --> 00:50:18,080 Most deaths were at night... 624 00:50:18,219 --> 00:50:19,571 from the cold. 625 00:50:23,181 --> 00:50:27,149 Dying here was really a continuation of life. 626 00:50:27,263 --> 00:50:29,089 The people were used to dying. 627 00:50:31,944 --> 00:50:34,401 A husband is washing his wife to bury her. 628 00:50:38,346 --> 00:50:42,235 In his mountain clothes, his goat skin... 629 00:50:46,630 --> 00:50:48,028 A very young woman. 630 00:50:53,992 --> 00:50:56,021 In the Coptic ritual... 631 00:50:56,113 --> 00:51:00,126 the body has to be clean when it comes before God. 632 00:51:00,274 --> 00:51:03,329 You have to wash it all over... 633 00:51:04,276 --> 00:51:06,418 even if there's very little water. 634 00:51:10,238 --> 00:51:13,846 With each dying person a piece of everyone else dies. 635 00:51:23,043 --> 00:51:25,827 A father is preparing his son for burial... 636 00:51:25,924 --> 00:51:28,303 saying his last goodbye. 637 00:51:31,606 --> 00:51:34,503 Family members usually prepare their dead. 638 00:51:42,771 --> 00:51:44,326 Knowing that a government... 639 00:51:44,411 --> 00:51:49,246 is withholding food from its people... 640 00:51:49,373 --> 00:51:52,349 as was the actual case here... 641 00:51:52,454 --> 00:51:55,318 in this camp in Northern Ethiopia... 642 00:51:55,415 --> 00:51:59,777 That was brutal political dishonesty. 643 00:52:14,982 --> 00:52:19,344 I returned to Ethiopia at the end of 1984. 644 00:52:19,904 --> 00:52:21,933 The guerillas knew the government 645 00:52:22,025 --> 00:52:24,449 was about to drive these people out... 646 00:52:24,585 --> 00:52:27,719 so they started evacuating people towards Sudan. 647 00:52:28,507 --> 00:52:31,167 They left from all over Tigray. 648 00:52:35,230 --> 00:52:37,777 We were attacked by two helicopters. 649 00:52:37,951 --> 00:52:41,637 Mi-24s. Very fast combat helicopters. 650 00:52:41,792 --> 00:52:44,249 They shot at the people with machine-guns. 651 00:52:45,754 --> 00:52:48,133 I took a photo and then I ran. 652 00:52:52,276 --> 00:52:54,542 There were many pregnant women... 653 00:52:54,637 --> 00:53:00,116 hoping that when they'd arrive they'd find food and water. 654 00:53:00,240 --> 00:53:02,979 That they'd finally reach the promised land. 655 00:53:07,562 --> 00:53:09,512 I must have spent... 656 00:53:10,763 --> 00:53:12,669 at least two months there. 657 00:53:13,645 --> 00:53:15,550 And when I arrived in Sudan... 658 00:53:15,645 --> 00:53:18,982 I did a lot of work on the arrival of these people. 659 00:53:23,488 --> 00:53:25,787 This man had come from Ethiopia. 660 00:53:25,888 --> 00:53:29,146 His camel had reached its limit. Maybe it was dead. 661 00:53:29,250 --> 00:53:31,832 But the man was holding on and on... 662 00:53:31,931 --> 00:53:34,952 Yet when he reached the doctors, his child was dead. 663 00:53:37,293 --> 00:53:38,928 After such a long march. 664 00:53:47,497 --> 00:53:50,676 Doctors Without Borders had to give up this camp. 665 00:53:51,339 --> 00:53:54,156 Water is essential in these camps... 666 00:53:54,259 --> 00:53:56,085 and it had become a huge problem. 667 00:53:56,180 --> 00:53:59,360 So they had to move the camp as fast as possible. 668 00:54:03,703 --> 00:54:08,066 People were crammed into UN trucks... 669 00:54:08,184 --> 00:54:11,521 to take them to a new camp... 670 00:54:11,666 --> 00:54:15,081 on a beautiful and fertile piece of land... 671 00:54:15,187 --> 00:54:17,734 on the banks of the Blue Nile. 672 00:54:18,749 --> 00:54:22,199 I rode on this truck for at least 300 or 400 kilometers. 673 00:54:26,551 --> 00:54:28,974 These are two friends... 674 00:54:29,072 --> 00:54:33,277 pretending it was a normal Sunday afternoon... 675 00:54:33,394 --> 00:54:36,415 sitting under a tree, telling stories... 676 00:54:40,676 --> 00:54:43,303 There's lots of water by the Nile, 677 00:54:43,398 --> 00:54:45,697 but that's where the people died... 678 00:54:46,438 --> 00:54:47,712 because�. 679 00:54:48,279 --> 00:54:50,308 There was nothing to eat. 680 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,264 They were in the final stages of their distress. 681 00:54:57,083 --> 00:55:01,332 They'd forgotten to bring food, or hadn't been able to. 682 00:55:01,484 --> 00:55:04,302 The food distribution had gone wrong. 683 00:55:04,445 --> 00:55:06,666 These people had held on so long... 684 00:55:06,767 --> 00:55:09,584 but when they got there, they could no more. 685 00:55:21,452 --> 00:55:23,165 I went to Mali. 686 00:55:24,373 --> 00:55:26,797 There was a severe drought there too. 687 00:55:28,935 --> 00:55:31,752 The skin becomes like tree bark... 688 00:55:32,495 --> 00:55:35,787 like a tree marked by the desert wind... 689 00:55:36,738 --> 00:55:39,556 by sandstorm after sandstorm... 690 00:55:49,862 --> 00:55:51,891 There were only women and kids. 691 00:55:51,984 --> 00:55:54,689 The men had left to work in Libya... 692 00:55:54,784 --> 00:55:59,823 or headed for the Ivory Coast, looking for work... 693 00:55:59,986 --> 00:56:03,875 promising to return and bring food for the family. 694 00:56:04,028 --> 00:56:06,248 But very few came back. 695 00:56:16,872 --> 00:56:18,822 They were all saved... 696 00:56:18,913 --> 00:56:21,810 because Doctors Without Borders did great work. 697 00:56:21,914 --> 00:56:25,205 They brought assistance to this whole area. 698 00:56:27,837 --> 00:56:31,411 This is a friend, Luc, a Belgian doctor. 699 00:56:32,438 --> 00:56:37,003 Measuring a kid, weighing him. 700 00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:43,168 In two or three weeks these children completely recover. 701 00:56:43,283 --> 00:56:45,785 They're marked by it, all their lives... 702 00:56:45,883 --> 00:56:49,738 having experienced such deprivation while growing up. 703 00:56:55,567 --> 00:56:57,867 This boy was alone... 704 00:56:57,968 --> 00:57:01,181 with his instrument, his little guitar, in his hand... 705 00:57:01,289 --> 00:57:05,020 With his rag of a shirt still hanging on him. 706 00:57:05,131 --> 00:57:06,957 No trousers, nothing. 707 00:57:08,291 --> 00:57:12,180 Look at his determination, his posture. 708 00:57:12,293 --> 00:57:15,787 He knew where he was going. 709 00:57:15,894 --> 00:57:19,907 Looking for other groups, looking for a village... 710 00:57:21,297 --> 00:57:22,571 with his dog... 711 00:57:22,657 --> 00:57:25,160 A boy of eight or nine. 712 00:57:31,181 --> 00:57:37,167 WENDERS: Sebasti�o became very attached to the people in the Sahel region of Africa. 713 00:57:37,302 --> 00:57:39,489 He returned over and over again. 714 00:57:40,984 --> 00:57:43,284 His photographs, the book and the exhibition 715 00:57:43,424 --> 00:57:45,724 that L�lia edited and put together 716 00:57:45,826 --> 00:57:48,329 called worldwide attention to these droughts 717 00:57:48,427 --> 00:57:50,929 and their threats to millions of lives, 718 00:57:51,027 --> 00:57:52,616 and opened questions. 719 00:57:52,709 --> 00:57:55,526 What had caused these conditions in the first place? 720 00:57:57,430 --> 00:57:59,538 Afterwards, Sebasti�o turned to a subject 721 00:57:59,631 --> 00:58:02,088 that would take another six years 722 00:58:02,232 --> 00:58:06,403 and countless journeys to almost 30 countries all over the globe. 723 00:58:06,553 --> 00:58:10,601 Workers, the third huge volume of photographs 724 00:58:10,715 --> 00:58:13,014 he and L�lia conceived together. 725 00:58:13,116 --> 00:58:14,108 (SPEAKING FRENCH) 726 00:58:14,196 --> 00:58:16,743 I wanted to pay homage... 727 00:58:17,317 --> 00:58:21,364 to all the men and women who built the world around us. 728 00:58:22,239 --> 00:58:24,539 An archeology of the industrial era. 729 00:58:25,481 --> 00:58:28,660 WENDERS: Sebasti�o and L�lia did extended research 730 00:58:28,761 --> 00:58:31,501 and planned Workers meticulously. 731 00:58:31,603 --> 00:58:36,044 And then he traveled again, to the four corners of the world, 732 00:58:36,164 --> 00:58:39,738 photographing steelworkers in the Soviet Union, 733 00:58:39,846 --> 00:58:42,663 living with ship breakers in Bangladesh, 734 00:58:42,766 --> 00:58:46,577 going to sea with fishermen in Galicia and Sicily, 735 00:58:46,689 --> 00:58:49,710 showing the mechanical production of cars in Calcutta, 736 00:58:49,810 --> 00:58:52,109 observing tea pickers in Rwanda, 737 00:58:52,210 --> 00:58:55,501 a country he had first gone as an economist. 738 00:58:55,611 --> 00:58:59,737 He came on a different mission now, with a changed view, 739 00:58:59,893 --> 00:59:02,193 but he was still the same man, 740 00:59:02,294 --> 00:59:05,901 driven by the same empathy for the human condition. 741 00:59:06,776 --> 00:59:09,200 Each of these chapters of Workers 742 00:59:09,297 --> 00:59:12,194 meant that Sebasti�o would immerse completely 743 00:59:12,298 --> 00:59:15,115 in that particular field of manual labor. 744 00:59:15,740 --> 00:59:19,787 Like the weeks he spent with the gold diggers at the Serra-Pelada. 745 00:59:21,581 --> 00:59:25,233 In 1991, at the end of the first Gulf War, 746 00:59:25,343 --> 00:59:28,601 if you remember, the Iraqi troops withdrew 747 00:59:28,704 --> 00:59:32,716 and Saddam Hussein set fire to hundreds of oil wells. 748 00:59:32,825 --> 00:59:35,485 An army of firefighters from all over the world 749 00:59:35,586 --> 00:59:38,089 moved to the burning oil fields. 750 00:59:38,187 --> 00:59:41,400 Sebasti�o just had to go as well, 751 00:59:41,509 --> 00:59:44,767 driven by a curiosity for this explosive profession. 752 00:59:45,030 --> 00:59:48,401 (EXPLOSION RUMBLING, INDISTINCT BROADCASTS PLAYING) 753 00:59:52,873 --> 00:59:53,910 (SEBASTI�O SPEAKING FRENCH) 754 00:59:53,993 --> 00:59:57,645 As soon as I saw the first images on TV... 755 00:59:58,355 --> 01:00:00,778 I felt the urge to cover this story. 756 01:00:03,037 --> 01:00:06,171 It was like working in a huge theater. 757 01:00:06,918 --> 01:00:09,375 500 oil wells burning. 758 01:00:09,479 --> 01:00:12,658 A giant stage, the size of the planet. 759 01:00:14,401 --> 01:00:17,501 No restrictions, you could go where you wanted. 760 01:00:20,083 --> 01:00:24,208 There was a discharge of heavy oil smoke. 761 01:00:24,765 --> 01:00:29,049 The smoke was so dense, the sun couldn't cut through. 762 01:00:30,287 --> 01:00:36,351 There were days when it was dark for 24 hours straight. 763 01:00:43,091 --> 01:00:44,839 Once a fire was put out... 764 01:00:44,932 --> 01:00:47,875 the earth was still very hot. 765 01:00:47,974 --> 01:00:52,065 They had to pour a huge amount of water on to cool it. 766 01:00:52,215 --> 01:00:56,386 If not, the oil would just re-ignite. 767 01:00:58,458 --> 01:01:00,047 But despite that... 768 01:01:00,138 --> 01:01:03,429 there'd sometimes be an explosion, like a cannon shot. 769 01:01:05,460 --> 01:01:07,681 The noise was so deafening... 770 01:01:07,820 --> 01:01:10,797 it was like working next to a jet engine. 771 01:01:12,463 --> 01:01:14,447 Now I'm a little deaf. 772 01:01:14,983 --> 01:01:16,967 That's where my deafness began. 773 01:01:33,870 --> 01:01:35,346 These are Canadians... 774 01:01:35,432 --> 01:01:37,810 a unit of firefighters from Calgary. 775 01:01:39,673 --> 01:01:42,255 They'd brought a beautiful red truck. 776 01:01:42,354 --> 01:01:45,804 And it was their rule, once they'd put out a fire... 777 01:01:45,955 --> 01:01:49,089 to wash the truck every evening. 778 01:01:49,196 --> 01:01:52,533 And in the morning it'd be covered in oil again. 779 01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:00,346 A hellish job! 780 01:02:03,722 --> 01:02:07,092 I put off my departure at least 2 or 3 times... 781 01:02:07,203 --> 01:02:09,503 until I really had to leave. 782 01:02:09,604 --> 01:02:12,861 But it broke my heart... 783 01:02:12,965 --> 01:02:16,617 to abandon this vast spectacle. 784 01:02:18,727 --> 01:02:20,633 I roamed around. 785 01:02:20,728 --> 01:02:23,467 And very close to the end... 786 01:02:23,569 --> 01:02:27,458 we were driving by this long wall... 787 01:02:27,571 --> 01:02:31,381 - That day I was with a journalist from The New York Times - 788 01:02:31,492 --> 01:02:36,452 Since it was a no-man's-land, ruined by war... 789 01:02:36,574 --> 01:02:38,479 we broke down the gate. 790 01:02:38,574 --> 01:02:39,972 And inside... 791 01:02:40,776 --> 01:02:43,323 we found a sort of... 792 01:02:43,416 --> 01:02:44,927 paradise... 793 01:02:45,017 --> 01:02:47,080 that had turned into hell. 794 01:02:47,778 --> 01:02:51,746 It was a garden belonging to the Kuwaiti royal family... 795 01:02:51,939 --> 01:02:53,055 (HORSE NICKERING) 796 01:02:53,180 --> 01:02:56,234 with horses, thoroughbreds... 797 01:02:56,341 --> 01:02:59,915 that had gone completely, desperately insane. 798 01:03:01,183 --> 01:03:04,835 Animals are the first to flee from a catastrophe... 799 01:03:04,944 --> 01:03:07,007 when they're free to leave. 800 01:03:07,825 --> 01:03:09,651 But here, they weren't. 801 01:03:11,147 --> 01:03:14,090 There were birds there too, it was an oasis... 802 01:03:14,188 --> 01:03:16,330 very well irrigated. 803 01:03:17,149 --> 01:03:21,794 Birds who couldn't fly anymore as their feathers were stuck together. 804 01:03:25,032 --> 01:03:28,796 The Kuwaitis fled when they felt the disaster approaching... 805 01:03:29,673 --> 01:03:32,728 leaving behind the imprisoned animals... 806 01:03:32,835 --> 01:03:36,442 and the Bedouins whom they didn't really consider as humans. 807 01:03:38,037 --> 01:03:42,636 WENDERS: Workers finally united the economist in Sebasti�o Salgado 808 01:03:42,758 --> 01:03:45,498 and the artist he had become. 809 01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,813 The pictures appeared in most of the great magazines, 810 01:03:48,921 --> 01:03:51,107 the exhibition traveled all over the world, 811 01:03:51,201 --> 01:03:53,501 and the book came out in many languages. 812 01:03:55,203 --> 01:03:58,021 But Sebasti�o and L�lia wouldn't rest. 813 01:03:58,965 --> 01:04:00,554 They immediately started to work 814 01:04:00,645 --> 01:04:03,858 on another major phase of his photography. 815 01:04:03,966 --> 01:04:07,979 They realized that one of the burning subjects of our times 816 01:04:08,088 --> 01:04:11,301 was the displacement of entire populations 817 01:04:11,410 --> 01:04:14,983 by wars, famines or the rules of the global marketplace. 818 01:04:16,251 --> 01:04:19,938 So while Europe was starting to close its borders, 819 01:04:20,052 --> 01:04:24,223 Sebasti�o was trying to shine a light on the fates of the outcast. 820 01:04:25,814 --> 01:04:30,256 Again, he and L�lia did all the research and planning together, 821 01:04:30,377 --> 01:04:32,485 and again, she was the driving force 822 01:04:32,577 --> 01:04:36,342 behind this new chapter in their lives, which they called �Exodus" 823 01:04:39,580 --> 01:04:41,406 It created a worldwide awareness 824 01:04:41,501 --> 01:04:43,846 for the fate of all these refugees 825 01:04:43,941 --> 01:04:46,161 in India, Vietnam, the Philippines, 826 01:04:46,262 --> 01:04:50,073 South America, Palestine, Iraq and many other places. 827 01:04:51,104 --> 01:04:53,291 But Sebasti�o, over and over, 828 01:04:53,385 --> 01:04:54,613 returned to the continent 829 01:04:54,706 --> 01:04:58,076 that had caught his imagination for so long already, 830 01:04:59,107 --> 01:05:00,900 to Africa. 831 01:05:10,552 --> 01:05:11,543 (SEBASTI�O SPEAKING FRENCH) 832 01:05:11,632 --> 01:05:14,765 I was doing my project on the displacement of peoples... 833 01:05:14,873 --> 01:05:16,857 in 1994... 834 01:05:17,474 --> 01:05:20,765 when the president of Rwanda... 835 01:05:21,356 --> 01:05:23,339 his plane was shot down. 836 01:05:24,157 --> 01:05:27,414 That started a huge exodus towards Tanzania... 837 01:05:27,517 --> 01:05:31,643 due to the brutal repression of the Tutsis in Rwanda. 838 01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:37,142 I was one of the first to arrive there. 839 01:05:38,042 --> 01:05:40,421 The catastrophe was everywhere. 840 01:05:40,523 --> 01:05:43,025 People were fleeing to Burundi... 841 01:05:43,124 --> 01:05:45,502 to the Congo, to Uganda... 842 01:05:45,604 --> 01:05:47,825 They were leaving in all directions. 843 01:05:51,687 --> 01:05:55,542 The roads were already full of people... 844 01:05:58,889 --> 01:06:01,110 People sleeping by the roadsides... 845 01:06:01,210 --> 01:06:05,020 carrying all their belongings on bicycles... 846 01:06:05,172 --> 01:06:08,069 fleeing with whatever they could take. 847 01:06:09,733 --> 01:06:12,676 We headed in the opposite direction... 848 01:06:12,775 --> 01:06:15,988 towards the border. 849 01:06:16,096 --> 01:06:18,880 There was no border control whatsoever. 850 01:06:18,977 --> 01:06:22,742 I entered Rwanda, and it was terrifying. 851 01:06:23,418 --> 01:06:27,150 The number of dead bodies I saw on that road... 852 01:06:30,421 --> 01:06:32,405 Here, a grenade had exploded. 853 01:06:33,222 --> 01:06:36,750 Those not killed by the grenade were killed with machetes. 854 01:06:38,424 --> 01:06:41,919 There, I began to sense... 855 01:06:42,026 --> 01:06:45,554 the sheer scale of the disaster I was witnessing. 856 01:06:46,587 --> 01:06:48,966 A genocide was in progress here. 857 01:06:52,430 --> 01:06:57,311 It was 150 kilometers by road to Kigali... 858 01:06:57,431 --> 01:06:59,888 150 kilometers of dead bodies... 859 01:07:08,635 --> 01:07:11,972 I turned back, because my story was about people. 860 01:07:12,117 --> 01:07:16,242 I was doing my book on refugees, I was working on Exodus- 861 01:07:16,358 --> 01:07:19,064 I started going into the camps... 862 01:07:19,159 --> 01:07:20,794 and I began to see... 863 01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:24,651 the sheer number of people leaving Rwanda. 864 01:07:26,642 --> 01:07:29,697 Hell was taking the place of paradise. 865 01:07:31,004 --> 01:07:33,224 It was frightening... 866 01:07:33,325 --> 01:07:36,932 to see, on such a beautiful savanna... 867 01:07:37,046 --> 01:07:40,146 this mega city springing up. 868 01:07:42,608 --> 01:07:46,136 Within days, there were almost a million people here. 869 01:07:53,372 --> 01:07:57,384 Among all this distress, one thing that really moved me... 870 01:07:57,534 --> 01:08:00,904 was the relationship between this mother and her child... 871 01:08:01,014 --> 01:08:04,666 and the child's trust in its mother. 872 01:08:18,101 --> 01:08:19,690 Violence... 873 01:08:20,382 --> 01:08:22,050 and brutality... 874 01:08:22,142 --> 01:08:25,513 are not the monopoly... 875 01:08:25,624 --> 01:08:27,653 of remote countries. 876 01:08:27,745 --> 01:08:30,958 It happened right here, in Europe, in ex-Yugoslavia. 877 01:08:31,066 --> 01:08:33,208 It was very shocking. 878 01:08:35,748 --> 01:08:39,716 A bus coming from Krajina through Croatia... 879 01:08:40,950 --> 01:08:43,373 a person was killed through that hole. 880 01:08:43,471 --> 01:08:47,439 The Croats killed lots of people too as they left Krajina. 881 01:08:48,233 --> 01:08:50,025 Violence was everywhere. 882 01:08:50,113 --> 01:08:53,528 But what disgusted me most... 883 01:08:53,634 --> 01:08:57,445 was to see how contagious hatred was. 884 01:08:58,276 --> 01:09:01,094 These people too saw violence. 885 01:09:01,198 --> 01:09:02,516 Entire families... 886 01:09:02,638 --> 01:09:06,053 the whole Serbian population of Krajina was expelled. 887 01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:11,663 And overnight, they found themselves... 888 01:09:11,761 --> 01:09:15,808 evicted from their homes, looking for a place to go... 889 01:09:15,923 --> 01:09:19,451 having their next-door neighbors shooting at them. 890 01:09:35,330 --> 01:09:38,193 These were refugee camps not far from Tuzla... 891 01:09:38,891 --> 01:09:41,912 in central Bosnia. 892 01:09:42,013 --> 01:09:45,067 These families had left the enclave of Zepa... 893 01:09:45,173 --> 01:09:49,107 where Serbs murdered thousands of young men. 894 01:09:50,136 --> 01:09:51,928 We were there at the very moment 895 01:09:52,016 --> 01:09:54,834 when the families were arriving... 896 01:09:55,898 --> 01:09:58,525 in a state of great distress. 897 01:10:09,863 --> 01:10:12,568 There were only women, old men... 898 01:10:13,544 --> 01:10:14,773 and children. 899 01:10:14,905 --> 01:10:18,996 The younger men had all been held and murdered. 900 01:10:25,469 --> 01:10:28,490 It was strange that this was happening in Europe... 901 01:10:28,630 --> 01:10:31,572 at the end of the 20th century. 902 01:10:32,111 --> 01:10:33,622 From the cars alone... 903 01:10:33,712 --> 01:10:37,646 you can see these people had a standard of living... 904 01:10:37,753 --> 01:10:40,019 a European standard of living... 905 01:10:40,114 --> 01:10:42,978 a European intellectual level... 906 01:10:43,076 --> 01:10:45,375 a European infrastructure. 907 01:10:45,476 --> 01:10:47,348 And they lost everything. 908 01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:55,294 Hundreds of kilometers, crowded with people and cars. 909 01:10:59,601 --> 01:11:01,349 We are a ferocious animal. 910 01:11:01,442 --> 01:11:04,260 We humans are terrible animals. 911 01:11:05,804 --> 01:11:09,535 Here in Europe, in Africa, in South America, everywhere... 912 01:11:09,685 --> 01:11:12,312 we are extremely violent. 913 01:11:19,249 --> 01:11:21,436 Our history is a history of wars. 914 01:11:28,652 --> 01:11:30,241 It's an endless story... 915 01:11:30,333 --> 01:11:32,441 a story of repression... 916 01:11:32,534 --> 01:11:34,202 a tale of madness. 917 01:11:43,178 --> 01:11:46,041 The situation in Rwanda kept changing. 918 01:11:46,139 --> 01:11:50,231 The Hutu army, which was ruling the country, was defeated... 919 01:11:50,340 --> 01:11:55,299 and retreated into the Congo, to the Goma region. 920 01:11:56,743 --> 01:12:01,263 First, the Tutsis had fled the Hutu barbarity. 921 01:12:01,424 --> 01:12:03,330 And then, the Hutus... 922 01:12:03,425 --> 01:12:05,972 fled the Tutsi occupation. 923 01:12:06,066 --> 01:12:08,174 So everybody fled, in turn. 924 01:12:11,388 --> 01:12:13,260 In just a few days... 925 01:12:13,349 --> 01:12:16,325 in July 1994... 926 01:12:16,430 --> 01:12:17,783 the Goma region... 927 01:12:17,871 --> 01:12:20,847 received more than 2 million people. 928 01:12:22,472 --> 01:12:25,054 It was a disaster in the making. 929 01:12:28,075 --> 01:12:30,972 Diseases such as cholera started spreading... 930 01:12:31,076 --> 01:12:35,247 and the people began to die like ants. 931 01:12:35,357 --> 01:12:38,377 12 to 15 thousand died every day. 932 01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:45,463 I was taking photos of these piles of corpses... 933 01:12:46,081 --> 01:12:49,058 when I saw the dad coming with his kid. 934 01:12:49,162 --> 01:12:50,673 He threw him on the pile... 935 01:12:50,763 --> 01:12:55,091 and left with his friend, chatting as if nothing had happened. 936 01:13:01,807 --> 01:13:04,940 They couldn't bury all the people. 937 01:13:05,969 --> 01:13:09,023 So a bulldozer came from the French army... 938 01:13:09,129 --> 01:13:13,018 which took dozens at a time... 939 01:13:13,131 --> 01:13:15,194 laid them out on the ground... 940 01:13:15,292 --> 01:13:17,998 and covered them with earth. 941 01:13:35,379 --> 01:13:38,163 Everybody should see these images... 942 01:13:38,260 --> 01:13:41,157 to see how terrible our species is. 943 01:13:47,824 --> 01:13:51,115 Orphan kids, who were on the road. 944 01:13:53,106 --> 01:13:54,537 Three children... 945 01:13:54,666 --> 01:13:58,240 the two with the livelier eyes would live. 946 01:13:58,348 --> 01:14:02,316 The one whose eyes are clouded was dying. 947 01:14:05,031 --> 01:14:08,007 When I got out of there, I was ill... 948 01:14:08,112 --> 01:14:10,659 my body was very sick. 949 01:14:10,752 --> 01:14:14,439 I didn't have any infectious diseases... 950 01:14:14,554 --> 01:14:16,503 but my soul was sick. 951 01:14:21,397 --> 01:14:25,444 I went back to Rwanda one year after the disaster... 952 01:14:25,558 --> 01:14:30,754 to cover the return of the Hutus who'd been in the Congo... 953 01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:32,475 and had nowhere to go. 954 01:14:32,561 --> 01:14:37,047 The United Nations started forcing them to return. 955 01:14:48,087 --> 01:14:52,212 You felt the whole planet was covered with refugee tents. 956 01:15:05,453 --> 01:15:07,515 After working there... 957 01:15:07,613 --> 01:15:12,179 the Tutsi authorities suggested that I should see... 958 01:15:12,296 --> 01:15:16,184 a few of the places where the massacres had occurred. 959 01:15:22,939 --> 01:15:27,775 People had fled to a church, believing they'd be safe. 960 01:15:28,621 --> 01:15:31,000 All murdered! 961 01:15:37,665 --> 01:15:40,122 Here, it happened in a school. 962 01:15:40,306 --> 01:15:45,029 You can still see what was written on the blackboard that day. 963 01:15:45,188 --> 01:15:47,217 It was terrifying. 964 01:16:01,194 --> 01:16:05,399 The people who had left Rwanda, about 2 million refugees... 965 01:16:05,515 --> 01:16:08,175 some went back to Rwanda... 966 01:16:08,276 --> 01:16:10,982 but others were afraid of the repression. 967 01:16:11,077 --> 01:16:16,160 So a column of about 250,000 people left the city of Goma... 968 01:16:16,279 --> 01:16:18,545 and entered the Congo forest. 969 01:16:21,681 --> 01:16:22,955 We lost track of them. 970 01:16:23,042 --> 01:16:27,010 Everybody knew there were 250,000 lost people. 971 01:16:27,164 --> 01:16:29,069 Nobody knew where they were. 972 01:16:31,725 --> 01:16:33,675 Six months later... 973 01:16:34,246 --> 01:16:38,845 they started appearing near Kisangani, in the center of the Congo. 974 01:16:41,289 --> 01:16:44,941 They'd lived in the forest for 6 months. 975 01:16:46,090 --> 01:16:51,208 So the UN took me there. 976 01:16:52,533 --> 01:16:55,587 There was a train and I took it. 977 01:16:56,774 --> 01:17:00,111 It was dropping off food, then heading back. 978 01:17:00,215 --> 01:17:02,120 But I said, "I'm staying." 979 01:17:02,217 --> 01:17:04,088 (BRAKE SQUEALING, STEAM HISSING) 980 01:17:07,779 --> 01:17:12,772 I spent three days with these people, who kept arriving. 981 01:17:12,940 --> 01:17:15,488 Columns and columns of them... 982 01:17:17,982 --> 01:17:21,353 To think that when they left they were 250,000... 983 01:17:21,464 --> 01:17:24,485 and only 40,000 made it here! 984 01:17:24,585 --> 01:17:28,271 210,000 people were missing! 985 01:17:38,510 --> 01:17:41,057 Yet at the same time, life went on. 986 01:17:41,151 --> 01:17:45,322 A guy cutting hair... 987 01:17:46,593 --> 01:17:49,050 Or even this Congolese guy... 988 01:17:49,194 --> 01:17:50,986 with his calculator... 989 01:17:51,995 --> 01:17:55,049 who was trying to collect... 990 01:17:55,196 --> 01:17:59,164 the few dollars he was sure people had on them... 991 01:17:59,278 --> 01:18:03,043 which he was trying to exchange, in the middle of nowhere! 992 01:18:03,159 --> 01:18:06,180 In the middle of a remote forest. 993 01:18:13,362 --> 01:18:14,513 At that time... 994 01:18:15,203 --> 01:18:19,723 the pro-Tutsi guerilla movement that had seized Kisangani... 995 01:18:19,845 --> 01:18:22,505 began to expel these people again... 996 01:18:22,606 --> 01:18:24,117 to send them back. 997 01:18:24,207 --> 01:18:28,615 Six months to get there, and now back to Rwanda! 998 01:18:28,729 --> 01:18:30,916 They began to kill some of them. 999 01:18:31,930 --> 01:18:36,214 There, I met people who just couldn't take any more. 1000 01:18:37,132 --> 01:18:39,916 Who started to be delirious... 1001 01:18:40,053 --> 01:18:42,003 losing their minds... 1002 01:18:42,093 --> 01:18:43,604 They were driven mad. 1003 01:18:48,936 --> 01:18:52,544 In fact, those people who were expelled... 1004 01:18:52,738 --> 01:18:55,083 were never heard from again. 1005 01:18:56,459 --> 01:18:58,916 I believe they were all murdered. 1006 01:19:06,703 --> 01:19:12,023 That was my last trip, that disastrous time in Rwanda. 1007 01:19:15,666 --> 01:19:17,649 When I left there... 1008 01:19:19,308 --> 01:19:21,416 l no longer believed in anything, 1009 01:19:21,508 --> 01:19:24,090 in any salvation for the human species. 1010 01:19:24,189 --> 01:19:26,895 You couldn't survive such a thing. 1011 01:19:26,990 --> 01:19:28,782 We didn't deserve to live. 1012 01:19:28,911 --> 01:19:30,816 No one deserved to live. 1013 01:19:41,036 --> 01:19:45,951 How many times did I lay my cameras down to cry over what I'd seen? 1014 01:19:52,359 --> 01:19:55,967 WENDERS: Sebasti�o had seen into the heart of darkness 1015 01:19:56,641 --> 01:20:00,496 and deeply questioned his work as a social photographer 1016 01:20:00,602 --> 01:20:03,229 and a witness of the human condition. 1017 01:20:04,044 --> 01:20:07,494 What was left for him to do after Rwanda? 1018 01:20:15,449 --> 01:20:19,338 JULIANO: In that time, my grandfather's health had worsened. 1019 01:20:20,690 --> 01:20:24,545 My parents had to return to Brazil to take care of the farm. 1020 01:20:25,372 --> 01:20:27,954 It was nothing but a wasteland. 1021 01:20:28,053 --> 01:20:30,556 They didn't know what to do with it. 1022 01:20:31,215 --> 01:20:35,499 The birds, the alligators and the majestic forests were gone. 1023 01:20:35,616 --> 01:20:39,628 There was nothing left from Sebasti�o's childhood memories. 1024 01:20:43,458 --> 01:20:46,874 And then L�lia came up with a surprising idea. 1025 01:20:47,020 --> 01:20:51,269 "Why don't we replant the forest that was here before?" 1026 01:20:53,742 --> 01:20:55,614 WENDERS: The forest that was there before 1027 01:20:55,703 --> 01:20:58,487 and had once spread over all these hills 1028 01:20:58,584 --> 01:21:02,395 was Mata Atlantica, the Atlantic rain forest. 1029 01:21:03,626 --> 01:21:06,208 Nobody had ever tried to replant it, 1030 01:21:06,307 --> 01:21:09,644 let alone on a scale of 600 hectares. 1031 01:21:10,589 --> 01:21:14,039 L�lia's suggestion was probably driven by the impulse 1032 01:21:14,150 --> 01:21:16,529 of lifting up the family spirit. 1033 01:21:16,631 --> 01:21:19,494 Yet, they actually started doing it. 1034 01:21:20,312 --> 01:21:22,736 And in the following 10 years, 1035 01:21:22,834 --> 01:21:27,320 nothing else than a full-blown miracle took place on this land 1036 01:21:27,435 --> 01:21:30,772 that has since then become the lnstituto Terra. 1037 01:21:32,957 --> 01:21:34,355 (MEN SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY) 1038 01:21:35,998 --> 01:21:37,350 (L�LIA WANICK SALGADO SPEAKING FRENCH) 1039 01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:40,652 I remember, during the first plantation... 1040 01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:44,728 I sometimes dreamt that everything had died. 1041 01:21:46,362 --> 01:21:50,567 Because the soil was so bad here, so damaged... 1042 01:21:50,684 --> 01:21:53,705 that I asked myself, "Will it ever grow?" 1043 01:21:54,446 --> 01:21:58,571 The Mata Atlantica has 400 different species. 1044 01:21:58,687 --> 01:22:01,584 Of course, we don't have all 400 of them... 1045 01:22:01,688 --> 01:22:03,988 but each time, we plant... 1046 01:22:04,169 --> 01:22:05,161 it's 100 species... 1047 01:22:05,249 --> 01:22:06,601 150 species... 1048 01:22:06,689 --> 01:22:10,781 After the first planting we lost 60%. 1049 01:22:11,772 --> 01:22:14,669 After the second, we lost 40%. 1050 01:22:14,773 --> 01:22:18,064 We had no book to teach us how to replant... 1051 01:22:18,174 --> 01:22:19,730 a Mata Atlantica. 1052 01:22:19,855 --> 01:22:20,846 (BIRDS SINGING) 1053 01:22:37,822 --> 01:22:38,814 (SEBASTI�O SPEAKING FRENCH) 1054 01:22:38,902 --> 01:22:40,807 I love coming up here... 1055 01:22:41,503 --> 01:22:44,320 to see all these trees together... 1056 01:22:44,424 --> 01:22:46,724 this mass of green forest. 1057 01:22:47,745 --> 01:22:51,916 You can imagine what it took to plant all these trees. 1058 01:22:55,749 --> 01:22:57,654 When I was a kid... 1059 01:22:57,749 --> 01:23:00,296 we had a little waterfall. 1060 01:23:01,270 --> 01:23:04,213 All year long, it cascaded down there. 1061 01:23:04,312 --> 01:23:08,753 My sisters and I would walk here to the waterfall, for picnics. 1062 01:23:09,954 --> 01:23:12,738 There was still an enormous forest. 1063 01:23:12,834 --> 01:23:13,871 Later... 1064 01:23:14,435 --> 01:23:17,885 the forest was cut down and the water vanished. 1065 01:23:18,997 --> 01:23:22,333 Our forest is still young, it needs a lot of water. 1066 01:23:24,319 --> 01:23:28,647 But in 10,15 years, when this growth has stabilized... 1067 01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:32,773 I'm sure we'll have a beautiful waterfall once more. 1068 01:23:36,003 --> 01:23:37,355 (MAN SHOUTING IN THE DISTANCE) 1069 01:23:40,165 --> 01:23:42,273 (MAN WHOOPING IN DISTANCE) 1070 01:23:44,646 --> 01:23:46,754 (SEBASTI�O SINGING QUIETLY) 1071 01:23:53,770 --> 01:23:54,762 (SEBASTI�O SPEAKING FRENCH) 1072 01:23:54,850 --> 01:23:56,000 You can see... 1073 01:23:57,011 --> 01:23:59,197 lots of little paths... 1074 01:23:59,291 --> 01:24:01,512 hundreds of them... 1075 01:24:02,453 --> 01:24:04,324 That's where the cows walk. 1076 01:24:05,174 --> 01:24:09,582 Each cow's hoof, as it touches the ground... 1077 01:24:09,695 --> 01:24:13,110 presses down with 200 or 250 kilos on one small space. 1078 01:24:13,217 --> 01:24:16,667 The soil flattens, it dries out... 1079 01:24:16,778 --> 01:24:18,841 and nothing grows on it anymore. 1080 01:24:18,939 --> 01:24:22,039 It's interesting to see the difference... 1081 01:24:22,780 --> 01:24:24,606 between what the lnstituto Terra 1082 01:24:24,701 --> 01:24:27,441 was before, meadows like that... 1083 01:24:27,543 --> 01:24:31,116 and what it is today, a completely rebuilt eco-system... 1084 01:24:31,223 --> 01:24:33,365 with our 2 million trees. 1085 01:24:43,909 --> 01:24:45,701 (SINGING QUIETLY) 1086 01:24:55,432 --> 01:24:56,830 Here you can see... 1087 01:24:56,914 --> 01:25:01,085 a cicada that sang until it died. 1088 01:25:02,275 --> 01:25:05,804 I'm sure its body wasn't enclosed in the tree like that. 1089 01:25:05,957 --> 01:25:09,644 The termites have built around it, assimilated it. 1090 01:25:09,798 --> 01:25:11,782 It'll be buried in there. 1091 01:25:21,042 --> 01:25:23,184 You look at a tree and you think only 1092 01:25:23,283 --> 01:25:25,786 of its verticality, its beauty... 1093 01:25:25,884 --> 01:25:31,160 But everything depends on the tree, our water, our oxygen... 1094 01:25:31,326 --> 01:25:33,389 It's everyone's home. 1095 01:25:33,487 --> 01:25:36,666 Ants, small insects, cicadas... 1096 01:25:36,768 --> 01:25:38,324 they're all in there. 1097 01:25:39,489 --> 01:25:44,167 It feels good to hold a tree you've helped to plant. 1098 01:25:44,291 --> 01:25:47,899 It's already deeply rooted, firm in the ground... 1099 01:25:48,013 --> 01:25:51,462 Thirty years from now, it'll be like this. 1100 01:25:51,573 --> 01:25:54,550 It's still quite young, still growing. 1101 01:25:55,775 --> 01:25:58,909 These are even younger ones, tiny ones. 1102 01:25:59,017 --> 01:26:00,967 Maybe they sprouted last night... 1103 01:26:01,737 --> 01:26:05,074 like Alice entering Wonderland. 1104 01:26:05,178 --> 01:26:10,657 It's incredible that they'll become trees 40 meters or so high... 1105 01:26:10,781 --> 01:26:13,678 and will live for 400 or 500 years. 1106 01:26:14,502 --> 01:26:16,137 What power! 1107 01:26:20,944 --> 01:26:25,273 To think that these three-month-old trees... 1108 01:26:25,387 --> 01:26:27,844 will reach their apex in 400 years. 1109 01:26:29,067 --> 01:26:33,666 Perhaps from there we could try to grasp... 1110 01:26:33,830 --> 01:26:36,050 the concept of eternity. 1111 01:26:36,150 --> 01:26:38,450 Maybe eternity is measurable. 1112 01:26:40,432 --> 01:26:41,424 (L�LIA SPEAKING FRENCH) 1113 01:26:41,512 --> 01:26:44,330 When I first said, "Let's plant a forest"... 1114 01:26:44,433 --> 01:26:49,426 I thought that from a seed I'd grow a small tree, a small plant... 1115 01:26:49,596 --> 01:26:52,729 Well, this isn't one small plant, it's a million! 1116 01:26:54,237 --> 01:26:55,827 And it's not only for here. 1117 01:26:55,918 --> 01:26:59,728 It's for the whole region, and further each time. 1118 01:26:59,879 --> 01:27:03,136 What's wonderful is that an idea... 1119 01:27:05,241 --> 01:27:07,461 can develop and grow. 1120 01:27:07,602 --> 01:27:10,972 And it's no longer one person's idea, it's everyone's. 1121 01:27:12,684 --> 01:27:16,415 Our technology can be reproduced almost everywhere. 1122 01:27:16,525 --> 01:27:18,870 Of course, species differ. 1123 01:27:18,967 --> 01:27:21,672 But the know-how is the same... 1124 01:27:22,288 --> 01:27:24,193 for every tropical forest. 1125 01:27:32,491 --> 01:27:33,720 (CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING) 1126 01:27:37,413 --> 01:27:40,828 WENDERS: The land healed Sebasti�o's despair. 1127 01:27:40,934 --> 01:27:43,718 The joy of seeing the trees grow again, 1128 01:27:43,816 --> 01:27:45,878 the springs coming back to life, 1129 01:27:45,976 --> 01:27:51,567 it all jump-started Sebasti�o's calling as a photographer once more. 1130 01:27:51,698 --> 01:27:54,280 Only that he and L�lia knew they couldn't possibly 1131 01:27:54,379 --> 01:27:56,724 return to what they'd done before. 1132 01:27:56,861 --> 01:27:57,853 (SEBASTI�O SPEAKING FRENCH) 1133 01:27:57,941 --> 01:27:58,932 We came to the conclusion... 1134 01:27:59,021 --> 01:28:02,831 that I could do a new project related to the environment. 1135 01:28:02,983 --> 01:28:06,162 Of course, I first thought... 1136 01:28:06,264 --> 01:28:09,082 of denouncing the destruction of the forests... 1137 01:28:09,185 --> 01:28:11,767 or the pollution of the oceans... 1138 01:28:11,866 --> 01:28:12,857 whatever. 1139 01:28:12,947 --> 01:28:16,678 Then we thought we'd do a different sort of project. 1140 01:28:17,428 --> 01:28:19,694 We'd pay a tribute to the planet. 1141 01:28:19,789 --> 01:28:22,495 And we were very surprised to discover... 1142 01:28:22,590 --> 01:28:25,566 that almost half of the planet is still... 1143 01:28:25,671 --> 01:28:28,128 like at the time of creation. 1144 01:28:30,873 --> 01:28:35,359 Many of my friends said, "No,you shouldn't take that route. 1145 01:28:35,555 --> 01:28:39,162 "It's risky. You're known as a social photographer... 1146 01:28:39,276 --> 01:28:43,086 "And you're venturing into the field... 1147 01:28:43,197 --> 01:28:47,132 "of landscape, or wildlife photography." 1148 01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:49,618 I said, "I don't care, let's do it! 1149 01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:53,248 "I have to learn to photograph that as well." 1150 01:28:53,361 --> 01:28:55,390 And I started my first story. 1151 01:28:55,522 --> 01:28:58,498 I wanted it to be Galapagos. 1152 01:28:58,603 --> 01:29:02,887 I wanted to understand what Darwin had understood. 1153 01:29:04,166 --> 01:29:05,992 The same species... 1154 01:29:06,087 --> 01:29:09,300 in very different ecosystems... 1155 01:29:09,447 --> 01:29:11,826 will evolve very differently. 1156 01:29:14,289 --> 01:29:17,423 Looking at this detail of an iguana's paw... 1157 01:29:17,531 --> 01:29:20,946 I can't help thinking... 1158 01:29:21,052 --> 01:29:24,186 of the hand of a medieval knight... 1159 01:29:24,293 --> 01:29:27,900 with those metallic scales to protect him. 1160 01:29:31,376 --> 01:29:33,281 Looking at the paw's bone structure... 1161 01:29:33,376 --> 01:29:36,950 I see that the iguana is also my cousin. 1162 01:29:37,698 --> 01:29:40,403 That we came from the same cell. 1163 01:29:43,860 --> 01:29:47,907 When you're in front of a creature of that age... 1164 01:29:48,022 --> 01:29:50,006 you're facing a real authority... 1165 01:29:50,103 --> 01:29:52,763 with all those wrinkles, all that knowledge. 1166 01:29:53,664 --> 01:29:55,219 When Darwin came here... 1167 01:29:55,304 --> 01:29:59,633 that turtle would already have been an adult. 1168 01:29:59,746 --> 01:30:01,932 Maybe it saw Darwin. Who knows? 1169 01:30:04,228 --> 01:30:06,934 One day I was very tired... 1170 01:30:07,029 --> 01:30:12,383 as we'd been walking a long time across some lava fields. 1171 01:30:12,511 --> 01:30:14,494 I lay down on the beach to rest... 1172 01:30:15,432 --> 01:30:18,487 and I felt something touch my leg. 1173 01:30:18,593 --> 01:30:21,614 I looked and it was a sea lion. 1174 01:30:21,715 --> 01:30:23,698 Another one came up beside us. 1175 01:30:23,795 --> 01:30:26,140 We were three sea lions! 1176 01:30:26,876 --> 01:30:30,811 They didn't see man as a predator, nor as a threat. 1177 01:30:33,238 --> 01:30:36,214 That was my first nature report... 1178 01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:39,500 the first time I photographed other animals. 1179 01:30:43,082 --> 01:30:46,847 For eight years, I took my time observing. 1180 01:30:48,524 --> 01:30:50,633 The main thing was to understand... 1181 01:30:50,765 --> 01:30:54,700 that I'm as much a part of nature as a turtle, or a tree... 1182 01:30:54,807 --> 01:30:56,283 or a pebble. 1183 01:32:03,393 --> 01:32:05,422 (INSECTS TRILLING) 1184 01:32:12,276 --> 01:32:13,267 (WENDERS SPEAKING FRENCH) 1185 01:32:13,356 --> 01:32:15,339 Amazing how he looks at us... 1186 01:32:15,437 --> 01:32:17,185 Indeed�. 1187 01:32:18,517 --> 01:32:20,626 There's depth in there! 1188 01:32:20,719 --> 01:32:23,695 He was coming closer, I was photographing him... 1189 01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:25,311 his hand in his mouth... 1190 01:32:25,881 --> 01:32:29,488 He was seeing himself in a mirror for the first time... 1191 01:32:29,602 --> 01:32:31,270 the front of the lens. 1192 01:32:31,403 --> 01:32:34,346 He was taking his finger out, putting it back... 1193 01:32:34,444 --> 01:32:36,112 realizing that it was him. 1194 01:32:36,204 --> 01:32:37,793 He was becoming aware of his image, 1195 01:32:37,885 --> 01:32:41,379 and I sensed total identification. 1196 01:32:56,132 --> 01:32:58,195 They are families like ours... 1197 01:32:58,293 --> 01:33:01,314 with grandfathers, fathers, grandchildren. 1198 01:33:03,934 --> 01:33:07,305 They respect each other. 1199 01:33:07,416 --> 01:33:12,094 And when you visit them, you have to be polite... 1200 01:33:12,258 --> 01:33:14,840 to stand in a certain way... 1201 01:33:14,939 --> 01:33:17,723 you have to respect their territory. 1202 01:33:17,820 --> 01:33:20,199 And then you're welcomed. 1203 01:33:21,902 --> 01:33:25,396 I also befriended a whale. 1204 01:33:29,505 --> 01:33:31,771 These are whales... 1205 01:33:33,386 --> 01:33:34,738 in Argentina. 1206 01:33:37,387 --> 01:33:40,961 An adult like this is 35 meters long, weighs about 40 tons. 1207 01:33:42,189 --> 01:33:44,534 She came so close to the boat... 1208 01:33:44,670 --> 01:33:46,812 I could touch her. 1209 01:33:46,910 --> 01:33:49,616 And it was incredible. Such sensitive skin! 1210 01:33:49,712 --> 01:33:51,301 As I was caressing her... 1211 01:33:51,392 --> 01:33:55,800 I could see her tail, 35 meters away, trembling. 1212 01:33:55,914 --> 01:33:57,503 Incredible sensitivity. 1213 01:33:58,155 --> 01:34:02,439 We had a small boat, just 7 meters long. 1214 01:34:02,997 --> 01:34:05,703 She knew she could have sunk us. 1215 01:34:05,798 --> 01:34:08,616 But she never once hit the boat. Not once! 1216 01:34:08,719 --> 01:34:11,819 As we left, she began tapping her tail... 1217 01:34:55,696 --> 01:34:57,996 That's like another planet! 1218 01:34:58,097 --> 01:35:00,396 It's quite incredible. 1219 01:35:00,498 --> 01:35:05,143 Let me see if I have another photo of the Nenets. 1220 01:35:06,461 --> 01:35:10,349 See, everything a Nenet owns is here. 1221 01:35:11,823 --> 01:35:13,141 That's their house. 1222 01:35:17,705 --> 01:35:21,391 I'd been planning this work on the Nenets for a long time. 1223 01:35:22,466 --> 01:35:26,671 About eighteen people, with six thousand reindeer... 1224 01:35:26,788 --> 01:35:28,930 constantly migrating. 1225 01:35:31,149 --> 01:35:34,204 This must be about seven in the evening. 1226 01:35:34,311 --> 01:35:37,411 At about eight in the evening they'd light a fire... 1227 01:35:37,512 --> 01:35:40,251 and cook the only hot meal of the day. 1228 01:35:41,194 --> 01:35:44,609 After the meal, we'd chat a bit. Everybody talked. 1229 01:35:44,715 --> 01:35:46,226 They'd put out the fire. 1230 01:35:46,316 --> 01:35:52,267 While the fire was burning, it was 15 to 20 degrees, quite nice. 1231 01:35:52,438 --> 01:35:54,940 Two hours later, it was minus thirty. 1232 01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:01,570 They're the real cowboys of Siberia. 1233 01:36:01,681 --> 01:36:04,387 They always have their lasso... 1234 01:36:04,482 --> 01:36:07,582 made of reindeer skin, around their necks. 1235 01:36:08,523 --> 01:36:13,326 They have boots made of silver-fox skin. 1236 01:36:14,205 --> 01:36:17,655 They sleep with them. Those boots last a lifetime. 1237 01:36:32,972 --> 01:36:36,263 The Ob is a very special river... 1238 01:36:36,373 --> 01:36:38,199 a huge Siberian river. 1239 01:36:39,215 --> 01:36:42,822 At this spot, it's about 47 kilometers wide. 1240 01:36:45,898 --> 01:36:49,989 Once past the Ob, you're in the Arctic Circle. 1241 01:36:52,060 --> 01:36:54,642 There's no horizon, there's nothing. 1242 01:36:54,741 --> 01:36:59,227 You are on a white plate, as wide as the universe. 1243 01:37:11,267 --> 01:37:13,250 WENDERS: Genesis took Sebasti�o 1244 01:37:13,347 --> 01:37:17,315 around the globe once more for almost a decade. 1245 01:37:17,429 --> 01:37:22,152 It was gonna show us nature, animals, places and peoples 1246 01:37:22,271 --> 01:37:25,168 that were like at the beginning of time. 1247 01:37:25,272 --> 01:37:27,177 A much more optimistic view 1248 01:37:27,273 --> 01:37:30,531 of the same planet than Sebasti�o had witnessed for so long 1249 01:37:30,634 --> 01:37:32,663 as damaged and destroyed. 1250 01:37:34,475 --> 01:37:39,593 Genesis was gonna be their opus magnus, a love letter to the planet- 1251 01:37:39,717 --> 01:37:41,149 (HELICOPTER THRUMMING) 1252 01:37:51,882 --> 01:37:52,873 (SEBASTI�O SPEAKING FRENCH) 1253 01:37:53,002 --> 01:37:55,742 There were accounts of the Zo'� 1254 01:37:55,844 --> 01:37:58,504 in 16th-century Jesuit writings. 1255 01:37:58,605 --> 01:38:02,055 They went to Amazonia and spoke about these people... 1256 01:38:02,166 --> 01:38:05,220 who wore a tube of wood inside their lower lip. 1257 01:38:05,327 --> 01:38:08,618 These Indians were never seen again. 1258 01:38:08,728 --> 01:38:11,152 It was believed to be a fairytale... 1259 01:38:11,249 --> 01:38:13,594 or an invention by the Jesuits... 1260 01:38:13,690 --> 01:38:16,147 until the end of the eighties... 1261 01:38:16,291 --> 01:38:18,917 when these Indians were contacted again. 1262 01:38:31,536 --> 01:38:32,934 (SPEAKING LOCAL LANGUAGE) 1263 01:38:35,258 --> 01:38:37,050 (CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING) 1264 01:38:47,743 --> 01:38:49,062 (CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING) 1265 01:39:21,116 --> 01:39:23,539 (MEN SPEAKING LOCAL LANGUAGE) 1266 01:39:47,525 --> 01:39:48,562 (SEBASTI�O SPEAKING FRENCH) 1267 01:39:48,646 --> 01:39:50,991 These Indians really live in a paradise. 1268 01:39:52,167 --> 01:39:54,466 It's the only place I've found... 1269 01:39:54,567 --> 01:39:57,701 where the women have 3 or 4 or 5 husbands... 1270 01:39:58,329 --> 01:40:00,876 and the husbands have as many wives. 1271 01:40:02,170 --> 01:40:04,154 Each woman has a hunting husband... 1272 01:40:04,851 --> 01:40:06,801 a fishing husband... 1273 01:40:06,892 --> 01:40:09,913 a farming husband... 1274 01:40:10,574 --> 01:40:14,823 one who's a handyman, who helps around the house... 1275 01:40:15,016 --> 01:40:17,361 The women have enormous power. 1276 01:40:17,457 --> 01:40:21,267 They have an influence over some of the men... 1277 01:40:21,378 --> 01:40:23,013 that's quite considerable. 1278 01:40:24,619 --> 01:40:26,524 (WOMEN SPEAKING LOCAL LANGUAGE) 1279 01:40:42,785 --> 01:40:43,777 (BIRD SQUAWKING) 1280 01:40:48,428 --> 01:40:51,088 (PEOPLE SPEAKING LOCAL LANGUAGE) 1281 01:40:54,710 --> 01:40:55,702 (SEBASTI�O SPEAKING FRENCH) 1282 01:40:55,791 --> 01:41:00,119 One thing I always found interesting about all these peoples... 1283 01:41:00,232 --> 01:41:03,919 was their perfect consciousness of their appearance. 1284 01:41:04,633 --> 01:41:07,012 When I was about to take a photo... 1285 01:41:07,115 --> 01:41:08,626 they'd know I was going to make 1286 01:41:08,715 --> 01:41:11,094 a representation of their image. 1287 01:41:12,117 --> 01:41:15,408 At first they'd be eager, then, they'd lose interest. 1288 01:41:16,919 --> 01:41:19,105 It wasn't their world. 1289 01:41:19,199 --> 01:41:22,694 On the other hand, they were very interested in my knife. 1290 01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:27,485 My friend Ypo made me swear to give him my knife. 1291 01:41:27,602 --> 01:41:30,262 But the National Indian Foundation... 1292 01:41:30,363 --> 01:41:33,937 made me promise not to give any of my objects to the Indians... 1293 01:41:34,045 --> 01:41:37,258 to protect their purity. 1294 01:41:37,966 --> 01:41:40,345 So he said, "Let's make a deal. 1295 01:41:40,488 --> 01:41:42,437 "They day you leave... 1296 01:41:42,528 --> 01:41:45,154 "throw your knife out of the airplane window. 1297 01:41:45,249 --> 01:41:47,706 "I'll follow the plane's path... 1298 01:41:47,810 --> 01:41:49,682 "and I'll find your knife!" 1299 01:42:06,977 --> 01:42:07,969 (SEBASTI�O SPEAKING PORTUGUESE) 1300 01:42:08,057 --> 01:42:10,560 These plants are very old. 1301 01:42:10,658 --> 01:42:13,364 They've been here for 40 or 50 years. 1302 01:42:17,861 --> 01:42:20,047 They're wonderful plants... 1303 01:42:21,183 --> 01:42:22,694 samambaia. 1304 01:42:22,783 --> 01:42:27,032 A plant of the shade, from the heart of our forest... 1305 01:42:27,144 --> 01:42:29,364 from the highest parts. 1306 01:42:30,786 --> 01:42:33,006 It reminds me of my mother's hair. 1307 01:42:33,107 --> 01:42:35,846 My mother was very beautiful. 1308 01:42:38,549 --> 01:42:41,254 These were her plants, and after she died... 1309 01:42:42,350 --> 01:42:45,247 Dad took care of them until he passed away. 1310 01:42:45,351 --> 01:42:47,223 Then, we brought them here. 1311 01:42:47,752 --> 01:42:49,070 (BIRD CHIRPING) 1312 01:42:53,474 --> 01:42:55,458 Look, it's raining. 1313 01:42:55,555 --> 01:42:56,829 Beautiful rain. 1314 01:43:14,042 --> 01:43:15,034 (SEBASTI�O SPEAKING PORTUGUESE) 1315 01:43:15,122 --> 01:43:18,572 This land is extremely important to us. 1316 01:43:19,484 --> 01:43:22,741 We're completing a cycle with this land. 1317 01:43:23,526 --> 01:43:27,212 Within this cycle, we have spent our lives. 1318 01:43:27,327 --> 01:43:29,153 The lives of my parents... 1319 01:43:29,247 --> 01:43:32,348 the lives of my sisters... 1320 01:43:32,449 --> 01:43:35,109 a large part of my life... 1321 01:43:35,810 --> 01:43:40,725 And today, we're living our lives here again... 1322 01:43:40,852 --> 01:43:42,441 L�lia and I. 1323 01:43:43,533 --> 01:43:45,878 This land continues to tell our story. 1324 01:43:45,974 --> 01:43:49,987 It formed my childhood and accompanies my old age. 1325 01:43:50,096 --> 01:43:52,722 And when I die... 1326 01:43:52,816 --> 01:43:57,539 this forest will once again be like when I was born. 1327 01:43:57,658 --> 01:44:00,205 And the cycle will be complete. 1328 01:44:00,900 --> 01:44:02,963 It's the story of my life. 1329 01:44:24,623 --> 01:44:26,963 Man, creator of images that tell us a thousand stories... 1330 01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:29,900 of life on this planet has shared with us this great project, 1331 01:44:30,300 --> 01:44:32,363 a dream: the destruction of nature is not irreversible 1332 01:44:37,785 --> 01:44:40,963 More than one thousand springs rise again on the soil of Instituto Terra. 1333 01:44:41,288 --> 01:44:43,263 Two and a half million trees have been planted already. 1334 01:44:43,784 --> 01:44:45,966 Wild animals have returned, including jaguars. 1335 01:44:50,917 --> 01:44:54,063 This territory is no longer the property of Salgado only: 1336 01:44:54,378 --> 01:44:56,471 it is now a National Park that belongs to all. 1337 01:44:56,821 --> 01:44:58,851 This demonstrates that it is possible to recover land... 1338 01:44:59,199 --> 01:45:02,763 anywhere else when their original forests that have been mistreated.105723

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