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Well it's so
nice to hear your voice.
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I'll tell you what I'm doing;
you know I'm doing this
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huge history of good old
Truman Capote?
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Yes?
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And the people that he knew
and who talk about him
either pro or con
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they all seem to have their
Truman stories.
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Yes?
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And I was wondering
if you could gather up
some of your memories?
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And one of the most
seductive people I ever met.
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I thought he was a freak,
absolute freak.
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One of the most lionized
writers since Voltaire.
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It's a sleazy bit of work.
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Oh he was wicked.
He was fun.
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He was totally
made out of drugs.
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It would feel like
a candied tarantula.
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It was still the naughty
little kid in Truman.
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I haven't had
a good laugh since he died.
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Do you think
he's the writer of the moment?
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Do you think Truman's going
to be read by generations?
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I'm Kate Harrington and I live
in Sheridan, Wyoming.
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When I was 13 years old I was
basically adopted by Truman.
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I met Truman in my mother's
living room.
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And Truman was invited by
my father to come have dinner.
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And he came in this big
limousine
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out to our little neighbourhood,
about an hour outside
of Manhattan.
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And of course
all the kids came to look
at the limousine.
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I'd never met anybody who spoke
like he did.
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Um, and at first I had
to run into the kitchen
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and take a tea towel, and cover
my face 'cause I laughed about
his - the sound of his voice.
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And then my mother reprimanded
me hardly.
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After that my father came home
one day and said
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I'm going to become his manager.
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So we said oh that's great.
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Wonderful, so we didn't think
anything of it,
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but he and my father
became lovers.
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They had an on and off
relationship, very tumultuous.
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My father had a lot of problems.
He was an alcoholic.
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When my dad left he left us
with no money.
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Truman's number was up
by the telephone, and
so I called him and said
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do any of your friends
need a helper this summer?
I need to get a job.
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Truman treated me like an adult
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and just said OK, well
why don't you come into New York
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and we'll have lunch
and discuss it?
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So I took
money out of the cookie jar,
played hooky,
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got on the Long Island Railroad
and went into New York.
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Truman told me how to do it
because I was so young.
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I gave the paper
with the address to the taxi
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and I went there to have lunch
with him.
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He said the only thing
you can do at your age to make
a good bit of money is model.
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I thought that was a crazy idea
because I had never thought
of myself in that way.
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He took me to Richard
Avedon Studio
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and just slowly, slowly, slowly
my whole world began to change.
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'Cause he opened up the doors
of literature, dance,
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art, music, fashion.
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And meeting all kinds
of accomplished people.
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He always said he was writing
a wonderful book about them.
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Um, I used to get bored
at the lunches
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and so he told me once
on the way there that
what I should do
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is sit in the booth and listen
to the conversation
of the people next to us.
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And on the way home
I could tell him everything
they talked about.
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It was sort of fun for him.
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And ever since then
when I go to restaurants
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I kind of do that out of habit.
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And I would write in my journal.
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Tell me are you a
real writer? It depends on what
you mean by real.
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Well darling, does anyone buy
what you write?
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Not yet.
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I'm going to help you
she said. I can too.
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Think of all the people
I know who know people.
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Fix me a drink darling, then you
can read me a story yourself.
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In America there is only one
social class
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that really matters
in a cultural sense.
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And that is the quote
"high society of New York."
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I mean you can be the richest
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and most famous person in Boise,
Idaho and it doesn't matter.
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Unless you're famous in New York
you're not famous.
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These people took him up.
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Truman saw everything
and he remembered it.
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Sooner or later he was going
to put it down on paper.
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An
assortment of celebrated people
pay $50 to sip the bubbly
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and exchanged small talk.
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Mr. Capote was on hand
for a benefit preview
of his newest offering.
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You're a part of the in-crowd.
You're also referred to
as the beautiful people,
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do you know what that
phrase means?
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I don't think that
any such thing really exists.
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It doesn't mean anything.
Does it to you?
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I don't know what it means.
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Well I don't know then.
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Maybe you could tell me.
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Thank you.
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Truman started
his day getting a cup of coffee
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and sitting, and talking
to gossip columnists.
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He'd trade all the gossip
and they would discuss
all the happenings,
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secrets and you know I'd
hear him laughing hysterically
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that kind of hilarious,
guttural laugh.
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Oh well that wasn't
in the thing...
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He was a fantastic
gossip. He knew everything. So
you could sit next to
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Truman it was just a dream come
true
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because he would just you
know?
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Just spill it all out.
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So you would just eat it up.
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And thank god he
he never thought he wanted
to write about me
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'cause God knows
what I told him.
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And he was bitchy,
but he was smart.
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I really mean this.
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Yeah?
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That the less intelligent the
performer is the better he is.
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For instance Marlon Brando is
an absolutely marvellous actor,
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but he's so dumb it makes
your skin crawl.
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He'd encourage
you to come up with stories
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which he would then make
much more Trumanesque
and-and bizarre,
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and conversations with him
were-were-were enormous fun
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and had very little to do
with the truth.
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I can't remember exactly
when I first met Truman
because he was everywhere.
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Any sort of big party
you went to in New York
I mean there was Truman.
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You think you could cut
that scene out?
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New York for many of us
is the ultimate destination.
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The biggest stage that there is.
In New York nobody cares
where you came from.
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Nobody cares you know really
even where you went to school
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or who your parents are.
They just want to know you know
how entertaining you are.
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What are you doing tonight?
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Call it New York
call it whatever you like.
The name hardly matters.
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Entering from the great reality
of elsewhere
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one is only in search of a city.
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A place to lose or discover
one's self.
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To make a dream wherein
you prove you're not
an ugly duckling,
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but wonderful and worthy
of love.
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As you thought sitting
on a stoop,
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planning your search for a city.
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Why?
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His first book at the age of 23
he was -
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it was you know a beautiful
little coming of age novel
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set against a rural background.
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A small southern town.
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I think somebody - one reviewer
called it the Fairy Huck Finn.
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Just about as explicit as you
could be back then I guess
in a book review.
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Radclif eyed the boy
over the rim of his beer glass.
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He had his notions of what
a real boy should look like.
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And this kid offended them.
He was too pretty, too delicate
and fair-skinned.
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Each of his features was shaped
with a sensitive accuracy.
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A girlish tenderness softened
his eyes which were brown
and very large.
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His hair cut short was streaked
with pure yellow strands.
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Well he was
rather a spectacle wasn't he?
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Nothing ever like him on the
American scene really.
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I mean a very astonishing
figure. Did you invite him
to your house often?
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For many years
George's parties
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were the literary centre
of New York City.
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George had given me my break
and he was taking me around
and introducing me to everybody.
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And of course inevitably I got
to Truman who was very friendly
shall we say?
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There was a little bit of
groping involved, but he was
easily fended off you know,
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he was playing the aging queen.
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You know early success
is a bit of a curse.
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You can get locked into
an image, a persona
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which is based on the public's
first glimpse of you.
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In my case it was the
coke-snorting. Night clubbing
protagonist of my first novel.
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In his case this effete,
elfin little southern boy.
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We lived
a block away from one another.
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Every gay life in
those years took courage.
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So much self-invention,
so much care, so much work.
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So much looking in the mirror
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thinking who in the name of God
is this that I'm looking at?
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Or everyone did
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and I think that fed him,
and nourished him as a writer.
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It wasn't as though
he was seeing himself
in television, or in the movies,
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or represented in any other way.
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There was no one in the mirror
when he looked.
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So then he could represent
himself in an entirely new way
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with full honesty,
full disclosure.
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Well this is who I am.
I am your local gay.
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There has to be one,
and I am he.
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He swished the
lavender curtains apart.
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Joel's image floated
on the looking glass.
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His formless reflected
face was wide lit
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as if it were a heat-softened
wax effigy.
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It was a strong feeling you know
with I don't know
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the sort of book crowd
that Truman wasn't entirely
serious perhaps.
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There was a sharp
divide between high culture and
low culture.
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And yet Truman kind of straddled
that border.
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Would you like me
to read a scene from Breakfast
at Tiffany's?
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Most people
say him as the author of
Breakfast at Tiffany's.
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"I've got the
most terrifying man downstairs"
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she said stepping off
the fire escape into the room.
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"I mean he's sweet, but he isn't
drunk, but let him start
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lapping up the vino and oh God
quel beast!
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If there's one thing I loathe
it's men who bite."
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She loosened a grey flannel robe
off her shoulder
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to show me evidence of
what happens if a man bites.
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We all think
of Audrey Hepburn now
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and of course you read the book
and it's completely different.
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She's a barely legal teenager
from Appalachia or something
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and quite openly a prostitute.
Makes no bones about it.
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And is a strange combination
of manipulative and used
by the world.
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The book is a lot grittier.
There's much less of a facade
of glamour.
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Of course it doesn't have
the love story.
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What do you think? This ought
to be the right kind of place
for a tough guy like you.
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Garbage cans, rats galore.
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Scram! I said take off!
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Oh yeah?
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Audrey Hepburn
as Holly Golightly searching
for love in the big town.
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I think there's
a lot of Truman's own mother
in Holly Golightly.
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Truman's mother was like Holly
from a small southern town.
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She was also a bit of
a courtesan.
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Truman's
childhood was in some ways
heart-breaking.
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His mother abandoned him
and left him in rural Alabama,
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and he got to stay with
these couple of aunts
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and he - his cousin was his
dear friend who he called Sook.
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She probably had some
developmental problems.
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So she saved him.
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Spoons spin around
in bowls of butter and sugar.
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Melting, nose-tingling odours
saturate
the kitchen
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and drift out into the world
on puffs of chimney smoke.
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We are cousins,
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and have lived together as long
as I can remember.
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We are shy with everyone.
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Other people inhabit the house
and frequently make us cry.
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We are not too much aware
of them.
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All of those
relationships are distant.
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He's brought up in this
household
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where there's no possibility
of either mother or father.
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Orphanhood, in other words
he was brought up
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by the same people who'd brought
his mother up.
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And so I mean you just imagine
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that you know that it's
the second generation of people
who come from broken marriages.
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He said to me once how do you
think I felt living there?
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I'm little but I'm old.
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He said here's
this little gay, sawed off man.
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I guess 'cause he means
he was so short. He said
it was dreadful.
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Come on.
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Truman shared
a childhood with his aunts,
and with his buddy Harper Lee
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in the small southern town
which was later immortalised
not only by Truman,
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but also by Harper Lee
in To Kill a Mockingbird.
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Harper Lee
was someone who he loved.
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In To Kill a Mockingbird he's
that little, annoying boy
who lives next door.
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Good morning. My you're up
mighty bright and early.
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Well I've been up since 4:00.
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4:00?
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Oh yes, I always get up at 4:00.
It's in my blood.
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You see my daddy was
a railroad man till he got rich.
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Now he flies airplanes.
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One of these days he's just
going to swoop down here
at Maycomb,
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pick me up and take me
for a ride.
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I mean people kept
letters from him.
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There are two early letters
both of which I love.
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One to the novelist
Thomas Flannigan
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who is a schoolmate
and just a letter saying
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all the lies I have been
spreading about Thomas Flannigan
are untrue.
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I promise never to say anything
about him to anyone again.
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In other words that already aged
10, 11, 12
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he was known as someone who made
things up and caused trouble.
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And he also was known as someone
253
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who could switch identities
and wanted to do so.
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And the other is to his father.
255
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As you know my name
was changed from Persons to
Capote, and I would appreciate
256
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that in the future you would
address me as Truman Capote.
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As everyone knows me
by that name.
258
00:25:24,039 --> 00:25:26,145
Truman Capote's
Breakfast at Tiffany's.
259
00:25:27,733 --> 00:25:28,975
Truman's
mother went to New York.
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Won't you join me?
261
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She was very
pretty and she finally captured
a rich man, Joe Capote.
262
00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:38,813
I'd marry you for your money
in a minute.
263
00:25:39,814 --> 00:25:40,884
Would you marry me
for my money?
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In a minute.
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00:25:44,439 --> 00:25:46,924
Truman's mother
asked Truman when he was
in his teens
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to come live with Joe Capote
and her. And Joe adopted him.
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00:25:52,447 --> 00:25:55,139
Truman's mother
was someone who wanted to
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achieve success in the city,
and in fact did.
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She actually lived on
Park Avenue for a while and
made a splash as a hostess.
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Later in his life in the 50s
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Nina had a very sad end
where she killed herself.
272
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So - and Truman always said
that, that was the thing
that he drank over.
273
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He would say to me I watched
my mother die in my arms.
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I don't know if that's true,
but I - that's what he said.
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00:26:45,949 --> 00:26:48,365
I mean Truman used to always say
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00:26:48,399 --> 00:26:50,885
don't let the truth get in
the way of a good story.
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00:26:52,921 --> 00:26:55,406
His mother
did not accept him.
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00:26:56,822 --> 00:26:59,687
Despite his celebrity,
despite his brilliance
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was never happy about
his sexuality.
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But to have a parent
commit suicide,
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especially one with whom you
haven't had a good relationship,
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that's one of the most traumatic
things that can happen
to someone at any age.
283
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And...
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00:27:27,128 --> 00:27:29,751
you don't get resolution
for that.
285
00:27:31,753 --> 00:27:34,100
He was embittered
by his mother. She essentially
tossed him out.
286
00:27:35,861 --> 00:27:39,036
I don't know how old he was
four, five, six
something like that.
287
00:27:40,279 --> 00:27:42,246
And I don't think he ever
forgave her for that.
288
00:27:44,007 --> 00:27:50,047
And I think it's the reason
he had this terrible need
to be loved.
289
00:27:50,082 --> 00:27:52,325
And I don't think Truman
ever thought he was loved.
290
00:27:53,533 --> 00:27:55,881
I'm serious I don't
think he ever found it.
291
00:27:57,572 --> 00:28:01,887
Hello Carole how are you?
Nice to see you again.
Well here we are.
292
00:30:08,082 --> 00:30:10,429
He loved Babe
more than the others.
293
00:30:10,463 --> 00:30:13,846
And I only say that because
he talked about her the most.
294
00:30:17,574 --> 00:30:20,577
Isn't it true that an
impression of coldness
accompanies perfection?
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00:30:21,992 --> 00:30:24,029
Might it be that what you feel
is actually fear?
296
00:30:26,031 --> 00:30:31,277
It is as much fright as
appreciation which causes
the stabbed-by-an-icicle chill
297
00:30:32,692 --> 00:30:37,456
that for a moment murders us
when a swan swims into view.
298
00:30:48,674 --> 00:30:51,090
I come
from St. Teresa;
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00:30:51,125 --> 00:30:53,990
more tears are shared
over answered prayers than
unanswered ones.
300
00:30:55,301 --> 00:30:59,650
And I thoroughly believe
that to be a great truth.
301
00:31:25,159 --> 00:31:28,645
Women ruled
New York society.
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00:31:30,681 --> 00:31:32,511
At the very top of high society
303
00:31:32,545 --> 00:31:35,410
were some extraordinary
looking women
304
00:31:35,445 --> 00:31:38,310
who had great grace,
intelligence,
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00:31:38,344 --> 00:31:40,001
and most importantly
great taste.
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00:31:42,038 --> 00:31:46,283
The effort
was visible, and the money
that went into it was visible.
307
00:31:48,044 --> 00:31:51,150
And I think some
of that artistry,
308
00:31:52,358 --> 00:31:54,567
the literal putting on of masks
and costumes
309
00:31:54,602 --> 00:31:57,225
must have very much appealed
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00:31:57,260 --> 00:32:00,539
to someone as naturally
theatrical as Truman Capote.
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00:32:02,161 --> 00:32:04,750
These women were brought up
in a world of polish and shine.
312
00:32:04,784 --> 00:32:06,717
Although we were probably doing
the polishing and shining.
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00:32:09,203 --> 00:32:14,001
Someone I know in fashion
had her handbags polished
by her French maid Yvonne.
314
00:32:14,725 --> 00:32:17,590
Yvonne ironed how $5 bills.
315
00:32:19,558 --> 00:32:22,492
So if she needed to catch a taxi
after dinner she'd have a crisp
$5 bill.
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00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,531
This is the kind of thing that
creates the legacy of style.
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00:32:27,566 --> 00:32:30,431
And it is permanent.
It is a style that goes forever.
318
00:32:33,158 --> 00:32:36,402
And it's aspirational.
It is totally aspirational.
319
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:46,240
Truman opened up these gates
to this sort of paradise
he prepared for himself.
320
00:33:18,824 --> 00:33:22,448
His letters are
amazing. If he goes on a boat
with five people
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00:33:22,483 --> 00:33:25,762
he has a vicious thing to say
about each of them. Oh her last
doctor said no more face lifts.
322
00:33:27,660 --> 00:33:31,871
Or the man who had his face
lathered by 10 year old boys
every morning.
323
00:33:31,906 --> 00:33:36,704
It's just disgusting and you
know, everyone's disgusting.
Everyone's boring him.
324
00:33:38,775 --> 00:33:42,089
He's in Greece and he says
the only words of Greek
he's learned
325
00:33:42,123 --> 00:33:45,678
is "go away fat girl.
Go away fat boy."
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00:33:47,818 --> 00:33:51,132
You don't break
into that world; you're taken up
by that world.
327
00:33:51,788 --> 00:33:54,377
Because the chief problem
328
00:33:55,550 --> 00:33:59,658
that rich people face is
the endemic boredom
329
00:34:00,555 --> 00:34:03,593
of living in a social ghetto.
330
00:34:03,627 --> 00:34:07,286
Because one class of people
all think the same way.
331
00:34:07,321 --> 00:34:10,841
All who have the same desires,
all who have roughly the same
amount of wealth
332
00:34:11,808 --> 00:34:14,155
and they bore each other silly.
333
00:34:38,938 --> 00:34:41,769
Can you imagine the dinner
parties he was invited to,
334
00:34:41,803 --> 00:34:44,082
if he didn't go how boring
they would be?
335
00:34:45,393 --> 00:34:51,399
He was expected to perform
and perform he did.
336
00:34:51,434 --> 00:34:55,127
Oh God, didn't you
ever hear this story?
337
00:34:55,162 --> 00:34:57,716
They had him as the
entertainment.
338
00:34:57,750 --> 00:35:01,202
Which must've been exhausting
for Truman on some level
339
00:35:01,237 --> 00:35:03,894
to always feel like you had
to be on,
340
00:35:03,929 --> 00:35:08,658
but I think he thought it was
a small price to pay
to get to live that life.
341
00:35:09,417 --> 00:35:12,386
So watch out.
342
00:35:37,583 --> 00:35:43,141
Well in those days homosexuality
was not acceptable.
343
00:35:44,349 --> 00:35:47,214
There were very, very few people
who were out.
344
00:35:48,836 --> 00:35:53,012
But there were you know
people used to call them walkers
you know?
345
00:35:53,047 --> 00:35:57,810
That - a lot of women would have
gay men take them to parties
and that sort of thing.
346
00:36:00,019 --> 00:36:04,921
And everybody sort of knew
who was and who wasn't,
but no one ever discussed it.
347
00:36:07,648 --> 00:36:12,825
I'm sure their husbands did.
The word pansy was flying
around Park Avenue.
348
00:36:14,033 --> 00:36:16,829
Straight people or as we call
them breeders
349
00:36:18,383 --> 00:36:22,041
looked at Truman like they
looked as effeminate gay men.
350
00:36:22,076 --> 00:36:24,768
Objects of contempt
and ridicule.
351
00:36:26,598 --> 00:36:29,877
Gloria loved him.
She stayed with him a lot.
352
00:36:29,911 --> 00:36:33,881
I used to say it's bedtime,
off you go because he'd talk
all night.
353
00:36:33,915 --> 00:36:36,918
Yes pa, off he'd go.
354
00:36:38,265 --> 00:36:42,545
Truman had thought of himself
as a master.
355
00:36:44,857 --> 00:36:50,794
And then it becomes clear to him
that they think of him
as a servant.
356
00:36:51,864 --> 00:36:54,315
And that was a blow.
357
00:37:28,970 --> 00:37:32,457
He didn't get a story.
He was out of his own world.
358
00:37:32,491 --> 00:37:35,045
He would lose himself
in his own world.
359
00:37:36,150 --> 00:37:38,773
And that story
seemed to him Kansas.
360
00:37:42,121 --> 00:37:46,298
It was so far away from what
he was doing that it sort of
woke him up.
361
00:37:54,686 --> 00:37:58,137
In Cold Blood
is the story of these six people
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00:37:58,172 --> 00:38:02,625
who died together November
15th, 1959
363
00:38:02,659 --> 00:38:04,420
and my book is the story
of their lives and their deaths.
364
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:11,081
He steps entirely
outside his world, his comfort
zone, and even his genre.
365
00:38:12,117 --> 00:38:12,807
He called it a non-fiction
novel.
366
00:38:14,533 --> 00:38:18,054
But until that moment
novels had been
precisely fiction.
367
00:38:20,056 --> 00:38:23,956
Once you blend fiction
and non-fiction things get
a little slippery you know?
368
00:38:24,578 --> 00:38:26,442
It is dangerous.
369
00:38:28,547 --> 00:38:34,035
This is the new adventure
of mine; this experiment is what
I call the non-fiction novel.
370
00:38:38,488 --> 00:38:43,355
He did a thing
that journalists do which is
to engrace yourself with people
371
00:38:43,390 --> 00:38:45,564
whom you don't know,
who you hope never to see again
372
00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:47,739
but you want to be
their best friend
373
00:38:47,773 --> 00:38:52,053
just now because you needa quote, a story.
374
00:38:52,088 --> 00:38:56,195
The difference with Truman
Capote was that he did it
over a six year period
375
00:38:56,230 --> 00:38:59,371
and that he did it to most
of Kansas.
376
00:39:46,867 --> 00:39:50,249
There's so much
speculation about the degree
377
00:39:50,284 --> 00:39:54,737
to which Capote manipulated
his subjects especially in
In Cold Blood.
378
00:39:57,291 --> 00:40:00,467
That he became very close
to Perry Smith
379
00:40:02,089 --> 00:40:06,507
to exhort personal confessions
from him to enliven
the narrative.
380
00:40:07,991 --> 00:40:10,753
This is a picture
of Perry and these were taken
381
00:40:10,787 --> 00:40:12,099
the very day he was captured
and went to prison.
382
00:40:14,066 --> 00:40:18,726
See there they were taken
during the course of my very
first interview with him.
383
00:40:18,761 --> 00:40:21,419
Harper Lee
who was there says
384
00:40:22,661 --> 00:40:24,698
the minute he appeared
and Truman Capote saw him
385
00:40:26,631 --> 00:40:33,534
he had something that matched,
something that worked.
It was a sexual thing.
386
00:40:36,054 --> 00:40:38,090
Of course it upped
the whole business of his book
387
00:40:38,125 --> 00:40:41,197
because he was writing a book
about a sort of figure
388
00:40:42,025 --> 00:40:44,683
that he had come to want.
389
00:40:46,685 --> 00:40:50,655
Which do you think?
That's the picture of Perry
I think is the best.
390
00:40:50,689 --> 00:40:53,934
It's possible to
say that he went into the story
391
00:40:53,968 --> 00:40:55,832
with his own Cold Blood.
392
00:40:55,867 --> 00:40:59,111
He was using his charm to get
close to all these people.
393
00:41:00,181 --> 00:41:01,493
But he was also emotionally
involved.
394
00:41:03,322 --> 00:41:07,085
Be very, very careful
how you read this story.
He was needy too.
395
00:41:09,052 --> 00:41:11,710
Perry was a strange and
difficult boy,
396
00:41:11,745 --> 00:41:15,127
but we became very um, very,
397
00:41:16,543 --> 00:41:19,097
very close too and very intimate
sort of
398
00:41:19,994 --> 00:41:22,825
an intense sort of friendship.
399
00:41:22,859 --> 00:41:27,692
Don't know if friendship's
exactly the word, but some kind
of very intense relationship
400
00:41:27,726 --> 00:41:33,870
having to do with his total
loneliness.
401
00:41:35,285 --> 00:41:38,530
And of course because of
my work.
402
00:41:42,016 --> 00:41:46,538
His own face enthralled him.
Each angle of it induced
a different impression.
403
00:41:47,884 --> 00:41:51,267
It was a changing face
and mirror guided experiments
404
00:41:51,301 --> 00:41:53,649
had taught him how to bring
the changes,
405
00:41:53,683 --> 00:41:57,238
how to look now ominous,
now impish, now soulful.
406
00:41:57,273 --> 00:41:59,551
A tilt of the head,
a twist of the lips
407
00:41:59,586 --> 00:42:02,209
and the corrupt gypsy became
the gentle romantic.
408
00:42:06,247 --> 00:42:09,009
I really think you've
written a masterpiece here.
409
00:42:09,043 --> 00:42:13,013
Well, thank you. You'll get
a much better dedication
410
00:42:13,047 --> 00:42:16,016
because of that sweet thing.
411
00:42:17,362 --> 00:42:19,675
A book about
this crime by Truman Capote
412
00:42:19,709 --> 00:42:21,193
became a worldwide bestseller.
413
00:42:22,643 --> 00:42:25,646
Now a motion picture brings
this book to the screen.
414
00:42:32,446 --> 00:42:35,207
He wrote too many
letters to too many people
415
00:42:35,242 --> 00:42:37,382
in the months beforehand saying
416
00:42:37,416 --> 00:42:39,833
he needed a goddamn execution
to end this book.
417
00:42:41,041 --> 00:42:44,009
Saying the stays of execution
have to stop.
418
00:42:45,045 --> 00:42:47,772
Meaning these
people have to die.
419
00:43:07,446 --> 00:43:09,932
This was one side
of him you know
420
00:43:09,966 --> 00:43:11,934
he really just needed his book
and he didn't care
about anything else.
421
00:43:13,487 --> 00:43:17,595
But I think we have to allow
for something else to be
there too.
422
00:43:19,458 --> 00:43:25,154
It's absolutely clear
to me that it wasn't as simple
as Cold Blood on his part.
423
00:43:27,087 --> 00:43:30,918
That there was fright of
where he had got himself.
424
00:43:34,784 --> 00:43:38,719
Perry was going to die
in this horrible way,
425
00:43:39,789 --> 00:43:41,929
in this public way.
426
00:43:44,725 --> 00:43:50,317
You can say to this day
that nobody has done a real
live murder story as well,
427
00:43:50,351 --> 00:43:55,425
with such an amount
of immediacy and clarity,
and attention to detail,
428
00:43:55,460 --> 00:43:57,255
and sort of coldness.
429
00:44:00,051 --> 00:44:02,329
This may have been the real
Truman Capote.
430
00:44:05,297 --> 00:44:11,234
The rest of the time is
just fun, lunch, dinner.
Self-invention.
431
00:44:12,995 --> 00:44:15,653
Only person who knows me
will be the reader of this book.
432
00:44:53,242 --> 00:44:58,005
In Cold Blood
propels him into a world
of achievements,
433
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,386
and a world of wealth.
434
00:45:03,908 --> 00:45:07,118
So Truman Capote gave arguable
435
00:45:07,152 --> 00:45:11,812
the only important ball
in the 20th Century.
436
00:45:12,917 --> 00:45:14,366
And it is still legendary.
437
00:45:16,092 --> 00:45:19,475
They all met here
at the great ball room
that we're - the Plaza.
438
00:45:23,099 --> 00:45:28,104
So this was a moment in time.
It was a bigger than life event.
439
00:45:30,244 --> 00:45:33,765
As a young black man sitting
in North Carolina about to
graduate from high school
440
00:45:35,974 --> 00:45:41,117
I immediately ripped the pages
of Vogue Magazine out and put
the whole thing up on my wall.
441
00:45:47,952 --> 00:45:50,748
My entire room
was wallpapered in Vogue pages.
442
00:45:53,129 --> 00:45:57,099
The New York Times did
the most unprecedented thing.
They published the entire list.
443
00:45:57,133 --> 00:46:00,447
So if you said oh, I was invited
to the ball but I decided
to go on a vacation
444
00:46:00,481 --> 00:46:04,037
you'd be caught out.
You'd be busted and
that's what I loved the most.
445
00:46:19,362 --> 00:46:22,538
All the ladies
are wearing masks
on Truman Capote's order's
446
00:46:22,572 --> 00:46:25,886
and the inky wretches of
the press on his orders also
447
00:46:25,921 --> 00:46:28,993
are being kept at a discrete
distance from the guests
outside this door.
448
00:46:32,651 --> 00:46:35,620
The people arriving here have
come from Rome, from Hollywood,
449
00:46:35,654 --> 00:46:39,210
Venice, Paris, Washington,
San Francisco, London
450
00:46:39,244 --> 00:46:41,074
just to go to a party.
451
00:46:41,108 --> 00:46:44,146
540 or so have dressed,
452
00:46:44,180 --> 00:46:47,356
and coiffed, and masked
themselves, and presented
themselves at the Plaza
453
00:46:47,390 --> 00:46:53,189
for the honour of serving
themselves at Truman Capote's
bar and saying they were here.
454
00:46:57,573 --> 00:47:02,026
Maybe that
had always been the pathos
of his childhood dreams.
455
00:47:03,993 --> 00:47:08,515
Being somewhere grand,
having all the most beautiful,
important people in the world
456
00:47:09,447 --> 00:47:12,691
in costumes and Venetian masks.
457
00:47:13,623 --> 00:47:16,903
As people made their appearances
458
00:47:16,937 --> 00:47:22,253
Truman like a 12 year old
clapped his hands,
459
00:47:22,287 --> 00:47:27,292
jumped up and down saying
oh you're my favourite.
460
00:47:27,327 --> 00:47:31,365
Oh, you're the most beautiful.
Oh you are the best.
461
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:32,953
Oh yours is the most
successful
462
00:47:34,161 --> 00:47:38,441
to every person that walked
into that ball.
463
00:48:18,516 --> 00:48:22,485
My first impressions were coming
into the Plaza Hotel.
464
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:28,146
The New York gossip press
was behind barricades.
465
00:48:28,181 --> 00:48:32,944
It's the beginning of
the celebrity culture
in America.
466
00:48:34,394 --> 00:48:39,571
My most memorable moment was
dancing with Luciana Pignatelli,
467
00:48:41,780 --> 00:48:46,302
the Princess. She was wearing
in the middle of her forehead
468
00:48:46,337 --> 00:48:50,444
a large jewel rented for an
unconscionable amount of money.
469
00:48:53,758 --> 00:49:00,799
Waltzing her around
the dancefloor I could see
these two heavyset gentlemen
470
00:49:00,834 --> 00:49:03,733
moving in time with the music.
471
00:49:05,390 --> 00:49:10,326
They were sent by the jeweller,
heavily armed Pinkerton men
472
00:49:10,361 --> 00:49:13,985
to keep their eye at all times
on the jewel.
473
00:49:14,020 --> 00:49:17,955
Not on Luciana, on the jewel.
474
00:49:22,718 --> 00:49:24,754
There are many enchanted
kingdoms.
475
00:49:26,066 --> 00:49:31,106
Mark Twain wrote
"a society that is the sum
476
00:49:31,140 --> 00:49:35,558
of its vanity and greed
is not a society at all.
477
00:49:35,593 --> 00:49:37,629
It is a state of war."
478
00:49:39,838 --> 00:49:43,566
And that is the society
of Truman Capote
479
00:49:43,601 --> 00:49:48,986
is putting on stage
in the enchanted kingdom
at the Plaza Hotel.
480
00:49:50,608 --> 00:49:55,993
And the state of war that exists
outside of the magic kingdom
481
00:49:56,890 --> 00:50:00,100
is for the moment
a temporary truce.
482
00:50:12,526 --> 00:50:13,631
That's right.
483
00:50:39,105 --> 00:50:42,142
For the first
hours of it before the unmasking
484
00:50:42,177 --> 00:50:44,696
anybody can dance with anybody
they want to,
485
00:50:44,731 --> 00:50:48,838
or talk to anybody they want to.
It's a completely free thing.
486
00:50:48,873 --> 00:50:52,187
And by the time the unmasking
come you've made a lot of
new friends.
487
00:50:52,221 --> 00:50:54,637
And that was the point.
488
00:50:54,672 --> 00:50:57,433
It worked wonderfully.
It's the same kind of feeling
489
00:50:57,468 --> 00:51:00,298
you get if you're asked to go
on a talk show
490
00:51:00,333 --> 00:51:03,715
and there you are
in the green room
with the famous actress,
491
00:51:03,750 --> 00:51:05,890
and the dog trainer.
492
00:51:05,924 --> 00:51:09,480
And we are a band of brothers.
Temporary, temporary.
493
00:51:10,722 --> 00:51:12,276
Of course when we got away
from the green room
494
00:51:13,656 --> 00:51:15,762
then we're very happy to knife
each other in the back.
495
00:51:34,953 --> 00:51:38,233
I didn't get invited to his
famous masked ball.
496
00:51:39,993 --> 00:51:42,789
I first met him on my show.
497
00:51:44,411 --> 00:51:46,862
He has managed to become
a darling of the Beautiful
People,
498
00:51:46,896 --> 00:51:50,176
so he conducts that life
and also manages to get
his work done.
499
00:51:50,210 --> 00:51:52,695
Would you welcome please
Truman Capote right here?
500
00:51:54,180 --> 00:51:56,975
He would kind of swing out
onto the stage
501
00:51:57,010 --> 00:51:58,770
and go like that
502
00:51:58,805 --> 00:52:01,704
and I thought well this is going
to be interesting.
503
00:52:12,025 --> 00:52:14,407
You want to try the hat?
504
00:52:14,441 --> 00:52:16,581
No I can't - I don't need a hat
with three balls.
505
00:52:16,616 --> 00:52:20,206
I'm just an average person.
506
00:52:20,240 --> 00:52:23,692
I remember watching Truman on
stage at Madison Square Garden
507
00:52:25,038 --> 00:52:28,145
with Mick Jagger centre stage
508
00:52:28,904 --> 00:52:30,768
doing his version of grooving.
509
00:52:36,877 --> 00:52:38,741
I remember thinking is this
what a writer should be doing?
510
00:52:40,605 --> 00:52:45,817
A whole evening standing
on stage while Mick
is enthralling the audience.
511
00:52:53,963 --> 00:52:58,554
The people would say it's Truman
Capote, it's Truman Capote.
Capote, you could hear it.
512
00:53:17,539 --> 00:53:19,955
A typical
one of my notebooks.
513
00:53:37,006 --> 00:53:38,525
He had
a really hard time.
514
00:53:39,837 --> 00:53:44,082
He would get up rather early
and go into his room.
515
00:53:44,117 --> 00:53:47,016
And he would write for
about three hours.
516
00:53:48,777 --> 00:53:53,368
But the day to day life with him
was incredibly calm and
pleasant.
517
00:53:53,402 --> 00:53:56,716
He was delightful.
He was very nurturing.
518
00:53:57,751 --> 00:53:59,926
We didn't have too many
groceries.
519
00:54:00,685 --> 00:54:02,756
We ate out all the time.
520
00:54:03,964 --> 00:54:08,728
He had canned soup,
raw shrimp, and tab soda.
521
00:54:08,762 --> 00:54:10,833
And a lot of vodka
in the freezer.
522
00:54:17,357 --> 00:54:21,050
Near the end
of the 60s things began
to lighten up for gay people.
523
00:54:21,085 --> 00:54:22,914
A lot of it had to do with
protests over the war.
524
00:54:24,122 --> 00:54:26,780
The police had other things
to worry about.
525
00:54:26,815 --> 00:54:30,301
You could go to a gay bathhouse
and not be afraid the police
were going to come in.
526
00:54:31,406 --> 00:54:32,890
Truman and I used to go
bar cruising.
527
00:54:34,926 --> 00:54:39,931
Bars became very specific
in the appetites they were
seeking to welcome.
528
00:54:44,142 --> 00:54:47,698
Prison theme or registry of
lollipop with the other sailors.
529
00:54:49,976 --> 00:54:52,392
And this was true of bath
houses. They became like
little theatres
530
00:54:52,427 --> 00:54:53,876
only they were sexual theatres.
531
00:54:59,779 --> 00:55:05,819
I thought it was fun and then
you combined that with this
incredible flood of drugs.
532
00:55:09,858 --> 00:55:13,310
I mean eye popping it was
unbelievable you couldn't - it
was hard to accept.
533
00:55:15,381 --> 00:55:17,590
And Truman found it fascinating.
534
00:55:17,624 --> 00:55:22,457
I found it fascinating because
Truman and I shared one thing
that we were both voyeurs.
535
00:55:23,078 --> 00:55:25,011
All writers are voyeurs.
536
00:55:28,048 --> 00:55:30,810
Truman
didn't want to go to respectable
nightclubs.
537
00:55:30,844 --> 00:55:34,434
He wanted to go to all kinds
of bad places.
538
00:55:36,643 --> 00:55:40,440
I mean one which Truman
absolutely loved was
a lesbian bar
539
00:55:40,475 --> 00:55:42,511
where the lesbians were
all in leather.
540
00:55:42,546 --> 00:55:45,687
They all had motorcycles.
And the girls were very lively,
and they liked Truman.
541
00:55:47,689 --> 00:55:52,970
He got some kind of response
from them, and everybody was
roaring with laughter,
542
00:55:53,004 --> 00:55:59,010
and he knew just how to sort of
get them to as it were perform
for him.
543
00:56:00,460 --> 00:56:02,497
And they went along with it.
544
00:56:04,222 --> 00:56:07,605
I think his writing was affected
slowly, slowly
545
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:13,059
because he began to care more
about meeting all kinds
of people than writing.
546
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,028
And that's why Jack Dunphy
his long-time lover
547
00:56:17,063 --> 00:56:18,823
shifted away from Truman.
548
00:56:36,634 --> 00:56:40,086
Truman was drawn to all manner
of people.
549
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,571
I mean just the fact that
he fell in love with my father
550
00:56:42,606 --> 00:56:46,230
you know who's like this guy
from the Bronx, this Irish guy
from the Bronx
551
00:56:46,264 --> 00:56:48,646
even though he lived
in Long Island.
552
00:56:49,233 --> 00:56:51,546
O'Shay was a banker.
553
00:56:52,892 --> 00:56:56,240
He was vice president of some
bank out in Long Island.
554
00:56:56,274 --> 00:56:59,554
And Truman said he met him when
he went to open an account.
555
00:57:00,865 --> 00:57:03,765
He was asked that you need
a place to deposit money,
556
00:57:05,491 --> 00:57:09,633
and Truman said well
I don't know about money
but I take deposits.
557
00:57:11,220 --> 00:57:16,916
And Truman said
at that point he - he went down
on Jack O'Shay
558
00:57:16,950 --> 00:57:20,506
and
and as they say
559
00:57:20,540 --> 00:57:23,785
he was over the rainbow. So...
560
00:57:26,926 --> 00:57:30,447
Point of fact he'd met him
at the East Side Sauna,
it's a bath house.
561
00:57:32,276 --> 00:57:36,798
I was so happy
for my father with regard to his
meeting Truman.
562
00:57:36,832 --> 00:57:39,801
Because he seemed happy
for the first time in his life.
563
00:57:39,835 --> 00:57:43,977
And I was so, so crushed when
the same problems he had -
564
00:57:44,012 --> 00:57:46,773
his violence, and his
alcoholism, and his cruelty
565
00:57:46,808 --> 00:57:48,982
he was - he had a cruel side
my father -
566
00:57:50,777 --> 00:57:55,057
began to manifest in Truman's
life. I was crushed because
I had -
567
00:57:55,092 --> 00:58:01,926
my fanciful idea that it was
only because he was gay and he
was unhappy um, in our home
568
00:58:01,961 --> 00:58:02,996
wasn't the truth.
569
00:58:07,242 --> 00:58:10,487
They were driving
along highways at night-time
and they got into a fight.
570
00:58:12,247 --> 00:58:15,940
He slugged Truman and then
opened the door and
shoved him out of the car.
571
00:58:18,011 --> 00:58:23,845
Truman didn't know where he was
and he said I saw this
little light in the distance
572
00:58:23,879 --> 00:58:28,712
and I walked, and I walked
and I went off into this,
and I knocked on the door.
573
00:58:28,746 --> 00:58:30,783
And I said please help me,
help me.
574
00:58:33,026 --> 00:58:37,928
And this man opened the door
and he looked at me and he said
oh my God you're Truman Capote!
575
00:58:39,067 --> 00:58:42,588
He slammed the door
in my face.
576
00:59:13,688 --> 00:59:18,175
Hey, don't you think that's
a good likeness? In his younger
days, his younger days.
577
00:59:18,209 --> 00:59:21,592
Well it's taken from a gentleman
old Avedon photograph.
578
00:59:23,456 --> 00:59:25,976
How long ago Truman?
579
00:59:26,010 --> 00:59:29,704
That photograph?
It was seven,
eight years ago.
580
00:59:29,738 --> 00:59:32,189
He's more handsome now
than then.
581
00:59:34,398 --> 00:59:39,161
I can see
something extremely clearly
in another person.
582
00:59:39,196 --> 00:59:43,580
All their motivations, and
what's making the whole thing
turn around.
583
00:59:44,442 --> 00:59:46,652
And do it with great
objectivity.
584
00:59:47,273 --> 00:59:51,035
And I hope compassion.
585
00:59:51,070 --> 00:59:52,899
Sometimes not so
compassionate.
586
00:59:54,694 --> 00:59:58,664
But if I were to reverse
the whole thing around on myself
I can't do it.
587
01:00:00,458 --> 01:00:03,427
He just
embarrassed his role as
the celebrity and he became
588
01:00:03,461 --> 01:00:07,707
more of a talk show guest
than he did a working writer.
589
01:00:10,192 --> 01:00:11,918
Well there was a moment
on my show
590
01:00:13,679 --> 01:00:17,993
I asked him in effect
why do you hang out
with all these fancy folks?
591
01:00:21,997 --> 01:00:30,074
And he actually said way back
in the events of his life
I'm writing about them.
592
01:00:30,109 --> 01:00:33,181
I was going that
these people are my material.
593
01:00:33,215 --> 01:00:35,217
Ah you're there...
594
01:00:35,252 --> 01:00:37,772
And when I now make
my forays occasionally
it's just to check up.
595
01:00:39,325 --> 01:00:42,984
Is admitting this now on
television likely to reduce
the number
596
01:00:43,018 --> 01:00:45,503
of invitations you'll get
because people will be
a little afraid?
597
01:00:45,538 --> 01:00:48,092
Oh everybody knows what the book
is about.
598
01:00:48,127 --> 01:00:51,475
No one's going to be
the least bit annoyed with me
unless they've been left out.
599
01:00:51,509 --> 01:00:53,063
That's probably it.
600
01:00:53,097 --> 01:00:56,929
He must have known that there
was danger in all of that.
601
01:01:00,864 --> 01:01:07,422
He talked about his great book
you know which of course I'd
been hearing about for years.
602
01:01:07,456 --> 01:01:12,151
We had - we all had you know?
The book was called Answered
Prayers, a great society novel.
603
01:01:14,256 --> 01:01:19,261
And he'd been allegedly working
on it since before the
publication of In Cold Blood.
604
01:01:21,367 --> 01:01:24,715
Answered Prayers was supposed
to be Truman's masterpiece.
605
01:01:26,199 --> 01:01:30,479
He compared himself to Proust,
to Remembrance of Things Past
606
01:01:30,514 --> 01:01:34,794
the great masterwork of
modernist literature.
607
01:01:36,831 --> 01:01:42,181
Proust wrote about Parisian
high society and the aristocracy
of France in his time.
608
01:01:42,215 --> 01:01:45,909
And this was the terrain
that Truman was exploring.
609
01:01:48,014 --> 01:01:51,500
He was on the yachts,
he was on the private planes,
he was on the private islands.
610
01:01:52,881 --> 01:01:55,746
He was privy to the secrets,
and the gossip.
611
01:01:57,610 --> 01:02:02,235
I think there was a lot of hope
that Truman would pull off
something Proustian.
612
01:02:49,627 --> 01:02:50,490
Shallow?
613
01:03:00,362 --> 01:03:02,606
It was
a society he knew.
614
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,367
He was in the inner sanctum
of the Agnellis.
615
01:03:05,402 --> 01:03:06,506
He was on the boats.
616
01:03:08,232 --> 01:03:12,133
He was with Babe Paley.
He thought he could just
change the names
617
01:03:12,167 --> 01:03:14,860
and people won't recognize her.
618
01:03:14,894 --> 01:03:16,344
Bad judgment.
619
01:03:20,866 --> 01:03:27,942
Babe Paley had only
one fault. She was perfect.
Other than that she was perfect.
620
01:03:41,438 --> 01:03:42,163
Why?
621
01:04:10,743 --> 01:04:11,502
Oh my, nan.
622
01:04:11,537 --> 01:04:13,504
Oh my dear.
623
01:04:13,539 --> 01:04:15,161
When I first met her there
wasn't any warmth at all.
624
01:04:15,196 --> 01:04:17,646
Your feeling was who the hell
does she think she is?
625
01:04:19,165 --> 01:04:23,204
But with Truman she was
very different. She relaxed.
626
01:04:24,722 --> 01:04:28,243
She laughed.
They had fun together.
It was fun. They were -
627
01:04:30,521 --> 01:04:34,146
you're sitting having lunch
with them and somebody says
something and they just look
at each other.
628
01:04:34,180 --> 01:04:37,011
They don't say anything.
They just look at each other
and then they start laughing.
629
01:04:37,045 --> 01:04:39,289
Like kids sitting in
the children's table
630
01:04:39,323 --> 01:04:42,568
giggling about what's going on
at the adult table.
631
01:04:44,018 --> 01:04:46,675
And I thought it was very sweet.
632
01:04:46,710 --> 01:04:53,890
I don't know anyone Truman
was with who had that kind
of unlimited acceptance with.
633
01:04:56,030 --> 01:05:00,689
And I think that's why he was
happy with her. Because she
loved him, and he loved her.
634
01:05:31,168 --> 01:05:36,691
What Truman thought
he was doing and I think
felt justified in doing
635
01:05:37,830 --> 01:05:41,178
was taking the lid
off a bowl of shit.
636
01:05:42,524 --> 01:05:44,526
Don't you have
a book about to appear?
637
01:05:44,561 --> 01:05:47,184
Now for a couple of years
we've been waiting for
Answered Prayers
638
01:05:47,219 --> 01:05:50,049
and have you turned it over
to the publisher yet?
639
01:05:50,084 --> 01:05:54,433
No. I refer to it now as my
posthumous novel.
640
01:05:54,467 --> 01:05:58,471
Because either I'm going
to kill it, or it's going
to kill me.
641
01:06:13,107 --> 01:06:17,525
No matter what happens
I'm going to publish a big part
of it this coming fall.
642
01:06:19,078 --> 01:06:20,735
Okay, we'll take a short break
and we'll be right back...
643
01:06:31,297 --> 01:06:36,371
He finally wrote something
that cost him mortally.
644
01:06:39,305 --> 01:06:42,826
This book exposed unspeakably
645
01:06:42,860 --> 01:06:47,175
private things about very,
very famous people.
646
01:07:11,648 --> 01:07:13,029
That's right,
that's right.
647
01:07:26,904 --> 01:07:32,082
It was these thinly veiled
identities of people he knew.
Stories about their lives.
648
01:07:33,428 --> 01:07:36,500
And outrageous things that
people told him in secret,
649
01:07:38,192 --> 01:07:41,367
and it was about these
cafe society people
that he had known,
650
01:07:41,402 --> 01:07:44,232
these jet set people
and he basically told
all their secrets.
651
01:07:45,889 --> 01:07:49,755
I didn't know
that anyone was upset by this
magazine.
652
01:07:51,791 --> 01:07:54,898
Two days later I go to this
party at Josh Logan's.
653
01:07:54,932 --> 01:07:59,109
Josh Logan's this big director -
movie and theatre director
in New York.
654
01:08:00,179 --> 01:08:01,353
And his wife's name
is Netta Logan.
655
01:08:02,664 --> 01:08:05,357
And who was this sort of
a barrel of an Irish cow.
656
01:08:05,391 --> 01:08:10,879
And I - and I go in and
barrelling at me across the room
657
01:08:11,915 --> 01:08:14,159
yelling how dare he?
How dare he?
658
01:08:14,193 --> 01:08:16,092
Is Netta yelling and literally
she's going like this
how dare he? How dare he?
659
01:08:18,370 --> 01:08:22,512
And I said what are you -
ah, you know what I'm talking
about! And she was going
on about Truman.
660
01:08:22,546 --> 01:08:26,481
How could he do that? How could
he do that? How could he do that
to Ann? How could he do that
to Ann?
661
01:08:27,517 --> 01:08:29,829
And that's how I found out
about it.
662
01:08:32,867 --> 01:08:38,390
Ann Woodward is a blond showgirl
and she married old,
old New York money.
663
01:08:38,424 --> 01:08:39,874
One day her husband was shot
to death.
664
01:08:41,013 --> 01:08:44,672
In Truman's account of it
Anne set him up.
665
01:08:44,706 --> 01:08:48,434
She grabbed
the shotgun and shot what
she thought was a prowler.
666
01:08:48,469 --> 01:08:51,955
Only it was her husband
with a hole through his head.
667
01:08:51,989 --> 01:08:53,991
You don't think it was
an accident?
668
01:08:54,026 --> 01:08:56,649
Come out of the trenches boy,
the war's over.
669
01:08:56,684 --> 01:08:58,410
Of course it wasn't an accident.
670
01:08:59,307 --> 01:09:01,482
She killed David with malice.
671
01:09:01,516 --> 01:09:04,830
She's a murderess.
The police know that.
672
01:09:18,878 --> 01:09:19,845
So they say.
673
01:09:44,525 --> 01:09:47,390
As a writer
I should probably be proud
because it shows that
674
01:09:47,424 --> 01:09:49,530
what you write
actually can have an effect.
675
01:09:59,436 --> 01:10:03,992
She had a terrible
marriage. Bill Paley, Mr. CBS
676
01:10:05,684 --> 01:10:10,792
he was famously a womanizer.
677
01:10:12,484 --> 01:10:13,933
They undressed
in the dark.
678
01:10:15,003 --> 01:10:17,040
None of his tricks caught
her fancy.
679
01:10:17,074 --> 01:10:21,527
She lay there like a missionary
outraged by sweating Swahilis.
680
01:10:22,390 --> 01:10:24,737
Dill couldn't come.
681
01:10:24,772 --> 01:10:27,292
He felt as though he were
sloshing around in some
strange puddle.
682
01:10:28,672 --> 01:10:31,675
He felt sticky and strange
as though covered in blood.
683
01:10:32,504 --> 01:10:34,644
As he was. So was the bed.
684
01:10:35,990 --> 01:10:39,545
The sheets bloodied with stains
the size of Brazil.
685
01:10:47,346 --> 01:10:49,762
As a woman reading it
you're like is that even
physically possible?
686
01:10:51,074 --> 01:10:53,766
Menstruation is as normal
as breathing, or sleeping.
687
01:10:55,354 --> 01:10:57,080
What was wrong
with her? Was she haemorrhaging?
688
01:10:57,114 --> 01:10:58,046
Clearly this is somewhat
exaggerated.
689
01:10:59,703 --> 01:11:04,052
Also was that considered a thing
that you would insult someone
690
01:11:04,087 --> 01:11:08,022
by having sex with them
when you're?
691
01:11:30,493 --> 01:11:34,082
He puts in so much
detail about how incredibly
unattractive the woman is.
692
01:11:36,464 --> 01:11:41,849
Even by the ungenerous standards
of this story the description
of her is particularly cruel.
693
01:11:43,678 --> 01:11:46,957
It's like he's trying to hurt,
and shock in every single way
he can.
694
01:11:48,442 --> 01:11:51,617
One response was
how disgusting.
695
01:11:51,652 --> 01:11:55,552
And the other was
how could your friend do this
to you?
696
01:13:23,468 --> 01:13:27,161
A short, sinister man
who looks exactly like
Truman Capote
697
01:13:27,195 --> 01:13:29,197
is preparing a fiendishly
ingenious crime.
698
01:13:30,854 --> 01:13:34,548
The victim is here at this very
table, at this very moment.
699
01:13:34,582 --> 01:13:39,173
And so too ladies and gentlemen
is the murderer.
700
01:14:14,829 --> 01:14:16,072
Is he dead?
701
01:14:20,697 --> 01:14:22,699
We touch nothing. We're all
experienced criminologists.
702
01:14:36,023 --> 01:14:39,233
The backlash from
the individuals was wicked.
703
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:45,308
About a year ago you published
a thing in Esquire.
It's a work of fiction.
704
01:14:45,342 --> 01:14:46,758
No it's not.
705
01:14:46,792 --> 01:14:49,795
Well it's not is it?
706
01:14:49,830 --> 01:14:53,558
Who - what friends did you lose
if I may be so bold?
707
01:14:53,592 --> 01:14:59,011
No, no three friends that
I really liked. And it was -
708
01:14:59,046 --> 01:15:02,601
they were very, very good, very
close friends of mine and...
709
01:15:04,189 --> 01:15:08,193
It kind of
ruined him. It almost was
sort of suicide.
710
01:15:25,210 --> 01:15:28,075
Nobody would have known
if they hadn't stood up and said
I'm so angry.
711
01:15:28,109 --> 01:15:30,180
How dare he say that about me!
712
01:15:31,216 --> 01:15:33,080
It's fiction for God's sake!
713
01:15:35,185 --> 01:15:39,811
Good lord I mean what is wrong
with these people? Talk about
a lack of sophistication.
714
01:15:41,191 --> 01:15:44,885
If it had been written about me
I'd say wonderful story,
715
01:15:44,919 --> 01:15:47,335
who is he possibly writing
about?
716
01:15:49,165 --> 01:15:52,755
Answered Prayers
is an early template
for reality TV.
717
01:15:54,653 --> 01:15:59,002
Like the pettiness,
the interpersonal stuff.
Knowing this cast of characters.
718
01:15:59,037 --> 01:16:04,214
Not really thinking it has
larger meaning except
in a pop cultural way.
719
01:16:06,423 --> 01:16:10,151
I do think it's a precursor
to a lot of what we now
are living with.
720
01:16:33,450 --> 01:16:35,038
I remember
his saying once what are they
upset about?
721
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:41,907
I was a writer. Did they think
I was with them because
they were so interesting?
722
01:16:48,086 --> 01:16:50,847
Babe said for Christ's sake
don't talk to me about Truman.
723
01:16:52,677 --> 01:16:56,163
And then eventually she'd
say well all right let's talk
about Truman.
724
01:16:56,197 --> 01:16:57,785
Well what's happening now?
725
01:16:59,511 --> 01:17:02,618
She's
the only one he cried over
their friendship ending.
726
01:17:06,691 --> 01:17:12,179
That's why I think he loved Babe
the most. Because he spoke about
her forever, until he died.
727
01:17:14,388 --> 01:17:19,669
I think he really, really never
got over the fact that she
disappeared from his life.
728
01:17:21,844 --> 01:17:27,435
The main body of people who
he had lunches with, and who
he called first thing vanished.
729
01:17:28,471 --> 01:17:31,129
Only CZ Guest stuck by him.
730
01:17:42,450 --> 01:17:45,764
I would go
to this place called Studio 54.
731
01:18:26,460 --> 01:18:28,980
Once Truman said there's
a new place and we have to go.
732
01:18:30,602 --> 01:18:33,778
It's a night club and it's
fabulous, and you're going
to love it.
733
01:18:35,331 --> 01:18:38,921
Truman was one of the great
favourites there oh my gosh.
734
01:18:38,955 --> 01:18:41,924
There was a huge crowd outside.
735
01:18:44,167 --> 01:18:47,032
And little Truman would get out
of his limousine
736
01:18:47,067 --> 01:18:51,381
and the guys would see him
and make a big path for him
737
01:18:51,416 --> 01:18:53,936
and be like come on Truman.
Come on in.
738
01:18:57,871 --> 01:19:00,425
And in you'd walk
to this inner sanctum.
739
01:19:20,238 --> 01:19:24,863
It was
dazzling. It was almost
the Black and White Ball.
740
01:19:24,898 --> 01:19:26,347
Except it was public.
741
01:19:27,659 --> 01:19:30,317
It was very upbeat and positive.
You felt good at 54.
742
01:19:31,870 --> 01:19:34,079
I just sat
and kind of watched it all.
743
01:19:36,012 --> 01:19:37,807
Like it was in a movie.
744
01:19:40,189 --> 01:19:42,639
I would stay until he'd make me
go home.
745
01:19:42,674 --> 01:19:46,989
So I never saw the real crazy,
excessive whatever may have
happened after midnight.
746
01:19:48,542 --> 01:19:50,475
It was
the last days of Sodom
and Gomorrah.
747
01:19:52,546 --> 01:19:56,446
People having sex, drugged
out of their minds and you'd
just have to step over them.
748
01:19:56,481 --> 01:19:58,517
They didn't even know who
they were having sex with.
749
01:20:00,105 --> 01:20:04,178
You had to just gaze at
the moment of ebullient life.
750
01:20:08,458 --> 01:20:11,116
On these evening
patrols Joel had witnessed
many spectacles.
751
01:20:13,291 --> 01:20:18,434
A girl waltzing stark naked,
an old lady dropped dead while
puffing out candles on a cake.
752
01:20:20,401 --> 01:20:28,306
And most puzzling of all
two grown men in an ugly
little room kissing each other.
753
01:20:47,325 --> 01:20:49,672
One of the things
that made Studio 54 attractive
754
01:20:49,706 --> 01:20:51,605
is you could get cocaine there.
755
01:20:51,639 --> 01:20:53,331
And I mean you
didn't pay for it.
756
01:20:57,404 --> 01:21:02,133
It's totally integrated both
sexually and ethnically
you know?
757
01:21:04,238 --> 01:21:09,519
Boys and boys, girls and girls,
girls and boys, mules and fire
hydrants. Anything goes.
758
01:21:12,453 --> 01:21:15,905
Even though
he had so much fun during that
he was also beginning
759
01:21:15,940 --> 01:21:19,012
a terrible, terrible addiction
to prescription pain medicine.
760
01:21:20,116 --> 01:21:24,017
So that photo
of Gloria Swanson and I
761
01:21:25,018 --> 01:21:27,537
where Truman's basically
passed out
762
01:21:27,572 --> 01:21:31,679
is indicative of some of the sad
things that were going on.
763
01:21:33,026 --> 01:21:35,235
He would come out of it,
and go back into it.
764
01:21:35,269 --> 01:21:36,684
He would function and then
he would fall apart.
765
01:21:37,789 --> 01:21:40,412
Because I had experience
with my father
766
01:21:42,380 --> 01:21:48,075
I knew how to be the adult
and look after the adult
who was acting like a child.
767
01:21:49,801 --> 01:21:51,113
Where were you last night?
768
01:21:53,046 --> 01:21:58,983
Well I haven't actually been
to bed for about 48 hours.
I mean you know I...
769
01:21:59,017 --> 01:22:00,018
How come?
770
01:22:00,053 --> 01:22:02,987
Somehow got here today just...
771
01:22:03,021 --> 01:22:05,990
I was just
going to take care of Truman
the way he took care of me.
772
01:22:07,025 --> 01:22:11,719
When I say I'll do something
I do it.
773
01:22:11,754 --> 01:22:12,997
Yes sir.
774
01:22:13,031 --> 01:22:14,791
I really, really do it.
I'm you know?
775
01:22:14,826 --> 01:22:19,313
At the end he unravelled.
And he unravelled on TV.
776
01:22:21,384 --> 01:22:28,529
One appearance in particular
where he clearly came directly
from Studio 54 drunk,
777
01:22:28,564 --> 01:22:31,774
and coked out of his gourd.
He was making a spectacle
of himself.
778
01:22:31,808 --> 01:22:34,328
Is that you have had
a history of alcoholism.
779
01:22:34,363 --> 01:22:36,089
It was
a terrible thing to see.
780
01:22:36,123 --> 01:22:38,608
How are you coming along
with the problem of drinking?
781
01:22:41,784 --> 01:22:43,751
Truman had been
in and out of rehab.
782
01:22:45,270 --> 01:22:49,378
And as I walked in the room
he looked oh hi Dotson.
783
01:22:50,724 --> 01:22:53,278
And he said just a minute
I have to take my pills -
784
01:22:53,313 --> 01:22:54,141
Antabuse - I have to take
my pill.
785
01:22:55,487 --> 01:22:58,007
They have to see you take it,
and he took the pill.
786
01:22:58,042 --> 01:23:00,561
And the nurse left and she shut
the door
787
01:23:00,596 --> 01:23:05,670
and he goes works every time.
788
01:23:08,397 --> 01:23:13,126
And he said oh, you want
a drink? The bar's over there.
It's true.
789
01:23:16,198 --> 01:23:21,582
I was walking
near my apartment and I suddenly
saw Truman a little aged dwarf
790
01:23:23,826 --> 01:23:28,831
carrying a huge plastic bag full
of I don't know what. Bottles
and things which were clanking.
791
01:23:28,865 --> 01:23:33,318
He looked like
a beggar. And I said Truman!
792
01:23:33,353 --> 01:23:37,115
Come back and have a cup
of tea with me.
793
01:23:37,150 --> 01:23:39,842
I got him in. he's very wobbly.
794
01:23:39,876 --> 01:23:43,052
Sat him down and went
to put a kettle on.
795
01:23:43,087 --> 01:23:46,780
But by the time I'd made the tea
796
01:23:46,814 --> 01:23:50,059
Truman had emptied
a bottle of gin
797
01:23:50,094 --> 01:23:52,027
which I think was half full
798
01:23:53,511 --> 01:23:56,790
and was drunk to start with, but
this time he was blind drunk.
799
01:23:58,861 --> 01:24:03,072
And there I was looking an idiot
with a little tray with a little
pot of tea and so on
800
01:24:03,107 --> 01:24:07,111
and I said look I've made this
for you. No interest at all.
801
01:24:08,112 --> 01:24:11,598
And so off he went
into the dusk.
802
01:24:12,254 --> 01:24:14,118
I was taking...
803
01:24:14,152 --> 01:24:16,568
One program he
seemed ill on the show.
804
01:24:17,638 --> 01:24:20,089
And there was a phrase
he kept using.
805
01:24:20,124 --> 01:24:24,162
I seem to be going through
this terrible haze of pain.
806
01:24:25,681 --> 01:24:27,372
And I said to him one day I said
will you cut that out, stop it.
807
01:24:27,407 --> 01:24:29,547
I thought he might
get up and have to leave.
808
01:24:29,581 --> 01:24:31,066
And he just laughed you know?
809
01:24:32,826 --> 01:24:38,245
Haze of pain is a good phrase
though. The writer was still
at work yeah.
810
01:24:42,870 --> 01:24:47,185
Let's order something
that takes forever so we can get
drunk and disorderly.
811
01:24:47,220 --> 01:24:51,672
Say a Soufflé Furstenberg
could you do that?
812
01:24:51,707 --> 01:24:54,330
The maître d' tutted his tongue.
813
01:24:54,365 --> 01:24:58,300
Soufflé Furstenberg is a great
nuisance, an uproar.
814
01:24:59,542 --> 01:25:03,891
An uproar said Lady Ena
is exactly what we want.
815
01:25:19,976 --> 01:25:25,810
It seems
to have been almost a literary
hoax in a way.
816
01:25:26,983 --> 01:25:29,952
You know certainly he meant
to write it, but
817
01:25:29,986 --> 01:25:34,577
I really - I don't think
there's any evidence
that anything existed
818
01:25:34,612 --> 01:25:36,924
except the few published
excerpts.
819
01:25:36,959 --> 01:25:40,411
Excerpts of a novel
that doesn't exist.
That's a good one.
820
01:25:46,693 --> 01:25:50,559
He wrote
on yellow lined legal pads,
and he wrote by hand.
821
01:25:51,456 --> 01:25:53,493
He didn't typewrite anything.
822
01:25:53,527 --> 01:25:56,530
So he had so many pads lined up
823
01:25:56,565 --> 01:25:58,877
and so I just assumed
as the pile grew
824
01:25:58,912 --> 01:26:01,225
that he was in fact
finishing his book.
825
01:26:02,433 --> 01:26:04,952
I don't know what happened
to the manuscript,
826
01:26:04,987 --> 01:26:06,644
but I do believe that
he had one.
827
01:26:08,059 --> 01:26:13,202
He would tell me that it was
just wonderful, and wicked,
828
01:26:13,237 --> 01:26:15,204
and people were going to be
so surprised.
829
01:26:15,239 --> 01:26:18,242
And I know some people think
the whole thing was a lie,
830
01:26:18,276 --> 01:26:20,796
but it couldn't have been
because he was sitting there
writing, and writing,
831
01:26:20,830 --> 01:26:21,210
and writing something.
832
01:26:22,832 --> 01:26:24,834
Yeah, I think he completed
the book. He said he completed
the book.
833
01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:31,565
I mean I don't know if you can
find a source that says Truman
told me he didn't complete
the book.
834
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:34,396
I don't know, Truman told me
he'd completed the book.
I thought the book was done.
835
01:26:36,605 --> 01:26:40,643
It was one of his really best
friends says that he gave her
a key to a safety deposit box.
836
01:26:40,678 --> 01:26:42,404
And indicated that the novel
was in there.
837
01:26:43,750 --> 01:26:46,684
But I have no idea what
safety deposit box it fits.
838
01:26:46,718 --> 01:26:48,686
There are millions of those
things around.
839
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:51,482
And I don't know how
you ever would tell.
840
01:26:52,759 --> 01:26:57,350
4 million, 4 million 200,000,
4 million 400,000.
841
01:26:57,384 --> 01:27:00,491
Maybe 20 years from now,
30 years from now suddenly it's
- someone will find it
842
01:27:02,009 --> 01:27:05,634
and you'll have
to pay a pretty penny to get it.
843
01:27:05,668 --> 01:27:07,774
But do I think it exists? Yeah.
844
01:27:09,051 --> 01:27:12,054
It may show up in an auction
someday, who knows?
845
01:27:12,088 --> 01:27:14,367
Anyone wish
to give more telephone bids?
846
01:27:14,401 --> 01:27:16,507
Someone probably bought it
like they buy art
847
01:27:16,541 --> 01:27:18,923
thinking well maybe
10 years from now darling,
848
01:27:18,957 --> 01:27:20,476
this will be worth something.
849
01:27:21,650 --> 01:27:24,722
Just like the de Kooning
we bought.
850
01:27:25,516 --> 01:27:27,863
All done?
851
01:27:32,108 --> 01:27:33,972
When he died
at the age of 59
852
01:27:34,007 --> 01:27:36,734
Capote had not finished
what he called his final
853
01:27:36,768 --> 01:27:38,977
and most important book
Answered Prayers.
854
01:27:39,012 --> 01:27:42,360
The book was about life
among the unhappy rich
855
01:27:42,395 --> 01:27:45,329
where Capote spent much
of his time.
856
01:27:50,368 --> 01:27:53,060
When he writes
about the rich or the powerful
857
01:27:55,131 --> 01:27:57,375
contempt just bleeds
through him.
858
01:28:03,692 --> 01:28:07,040
The most beautiful writing
is about people that don't have
any money.
859
01:28:09,007 --> 01:28:13,391
Who aren't famous, who aren't
celebrated. That's where you see
Truman's heart.
860
01:28:39,728 --> 01:28:40,625
Yes.
861
01:28:59,161 --> 01:29:00,852
Oh, well then you -
how can you come here
862
01:29:00,887 --> 01:29:02,682
and talk to me about it?
863
01:29:02,716 --> 01:29:05,512
Jesus, we've been having this
big discussion here based on
864
01:29:05,547 --> 01:29:07,963
something that I thought he had
this intimate knowledge.
865
01:29:12,726 --> 01:29:14,901
What is heaven
for Truman Capote?
866
01:29:20,044 --> 01:29:22,909
I think he probably felt
he was in it for a time.
867
01:29:25,912 --> 01:29:27,776
Ballsy little guy.
868
01:29:29,709 --> 01:29:31,711
I have Truman's sofa.
869
01:29:31,745 --> 01:29:33,989
The sofa that he was
photographed on in Brooklyn.
870
01:29:35,577 --> 01:29:38,062
And I bought some little
ornaments for the table.
871
01:29:39,684 --> 01:29:43,723
Little matchstick holders and
lots of little things like that.
872
01:29:47,243 --> 01:29:49,970
What I wanted to buy but
I regret that I didn't
873
01:29:50,005 --> 01:29:52,041
was a box of cookies.
874
01:29:53,249 --> 01:29:57,392
Truman had gone through
his entire life with
875
01:29:58,669 --> 01:30:02,017
ginger cookies
made by Aunt Sook.
876
01:30:04,709 --> 01:30:07,781
They were little gingerbread
men dried and desiccated.
877
01:30:09,507 --> 01:30:12,407
His Aunt Sook's gingerbread
cookies went with him
everywhere.
878
01:30:14,132 --> 01:30:18,102
So extraordinary that his
childhood meant so much to him.
879
01:30:19,310 --> 01:30:21,726
These things mattered you know?
880
01:30:27,836 --> 01:30:29,562
Truman had
a composition style notebook.
881
01:30:31,287 --> 01:30:33,704
He just said if you want to live
with me you have to write
about your life.
882
01:30:35,326 --> 01:30:37,915
So I said well why? And he said
because your life's about
to change
883
01:30:39,503 --> 01:30:42,195
and it's the only way you'll
hold onto who you really are.
884
01:30:46,682 --> 01:30:49,098
So I always think of that
with him.
75262
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