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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:26,408 --> 00:00:28,491 He's wearing bell-bottoms. 2 00:00:28,533 --> 00:00:30,033 Hold it right there. 3 00:00:31,618 --> 00:00:33,325 And he's chewing gum. 4 00:00:33,366 --> 00:00:35,576 I'm not gonna be fake. I come from Venezuela. 5 00:00:35,618 --> 00:00:38,075 - More coming up over there. - Okay. 6 00:00:38,116 --> 00:00:41,618 - Let the black guy in. - I think they should let all of us in. 7 00:00:45,700 --> 00:00:47,866 Exit over there to your right, please. 8 00:00:47,908 --> 00:00:49,325 Yeah, let them in. 9 00:00:49,366 --> 00:00:52,116 I will get inside. 10 00:00:52,158 --> 00:00:55,908 What do you think makes a place hot? 11 00:00:55,950 --> 00:00:59,200 Like 54... What was the phenomenon that it became international? 12 00:00:59,241 --> 00:01:01,450 People flew in from over the world just to go there. 13 00:01:01,491 --> 00:01:03,991 What made it such a... 14 00:01:04,033 --> 00:01:05,825 I don't know. I, uh... You know, 15 00:01:05,866 --> 00:01:08,783 in a club it's all about capturing a moment. 16 00:01:11,283 --> 00:01:14,158 When you walked through those blacked-out doors, 17 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:15,950 you were in another world. 18 00:01:24,075 --> 00:01:26,325 Anyone that was allowed in, 19 00:01:26,366 --> 00:01:28,783 uh, was totally free inside. 20 00:01:40,491 --> 00:01:43,825 Steve and I had no idea what it would really mean, 21 00:01:43,866 --> 00:01:47,283 or that it would last only 33 months. 22 00:01:47,325 --> 00:01:51,075 Just captured everybody's imagination. 23 00:01:55,741 --> 00:01:58,576 You could be next to Elizabeth Taylor 24 00:01:58,618 --> 00:02:01,116 or, uh, just about anybody, 25 00:02:01,158 --> 00:02:05,450 uh, and feel wonderful and good about yourself. 26 00:02:14,116 --> 00:02:15,700 I love the nightlife, 27 00:02:15,741 --> 00:02:18,075 and I love seeing people have fun nights. 28 00:02:18,116 --> 00:02:19,552 There's nothing that makes me happier 29 00:02:19,576 --> 00:02:22,033 than to see the people having a good time. 30 00:02:22,075 --> 00:02:24,618 Everybody that was there was a star. 31 00:02:24,660 --> 00:02:26,825 Thanks. That makes me feel great. 32 00:02:26,866 --> 00:02:28,533 It does, because so much bad 33 00:02:28,576 --> 00:02:30,908 came out of it, you know, for Ian and I 34 00:02:30,950 --> 00:02:32,241 that it's good to think 35 00:02:32,283 --> 00:02:33,825 some people think of it like that. 36 00:02:36,366 --> 00:02:39,408 The owners of Studio 54, Ian Schrager and Steven Rubell... 37 00:02:39,450 --> 00:02:41,700 Two dozen agents raided the chic disco this morning. 38 00:02:41,741 --> 00:02:44,741 It's up to ten years in prison. 39 00:02:44,783 --> 00:02:46,741 What was your reaction when you learned 40 00:02:46,783 --> 00:02:49,700 that your partner had been arrested? 41 00:03:08,116 --> 00:03:11,075 - I just go? - Uh, yeah, try that. 42 00:03:11,116 --> 00:03:13,741 Well, um, 43 00:03:13,783 --> 00:03:17,075 you know, I was wondering to myself why, 44 00:03:17,116 --> 00:03:19,783 after almost 40 years, you know, 45 00:03:19,825 --> 00:03:23,075 I would finally feel okay to talk about Studio, 46 00:03:23,116 --> 00:03:26,283 'cause I hadn't talked about it, you know, at all. 47 00:03:34,825 --> 00:03:37,660 Now I'm at a point in my life 48 00:03:37,700 --> 00:03:40,576 that it doesn't sting as much 49 00:03:40,618 --> 00:03:43,950 after all this time the way it used to sting. 50 00:03:46,783 --> 00:03:48,241 There's only two people 51 00:03:48,283 --> 00:03:49,783 that could've told this story... 52 00:03:49,825 --> 00:03:53,533 Steve and I. 53 00:03:53,576 --> 00:03:55,700 That's why I'm happy 54 00:03:55,741 --> 00:03:58,533 to finally tell the story as it really happened. 55 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:02,200 All right. 56 00:04:04,033 --> 00:04:07,660 You haven't seen the book in a few weeks, 57 00:04:07,700 --> 00:04:09,200 so we should look at everything, 58 00:04:09,241 --> 00:04:11,576 and I have to ask you a couple questions. 59 00:04:17,241 --> 00:04:20,200 I never been in a room 60 00:04:20,241 --> 00:04:21,660 with so many celebrities. 61 00:04:21,700 --> 00:04:23,158 It was like numb. 62 00:04:32,908 --> 00:04:35,741 So we need a picture here. 63 00:04:39,700 --> 00:04:41,241 This one. 64 00:04:48,408 --> 00:04:50,825 My friendship with Steve was always very close, 65 00:04:50,866 --> 00:04:53,533 almost from the moment we met. 66 00:04:55,116 --> 00:04:57,783 We met in college. 67 00:04:57,825 --> 00:05:00,283 We both came from Brooklyn, 68 00:05:00,325 --> 00:05:02,075 middle class, 69 00:05:02,116 --> 00:05:04,576 lower middle-class working families. 70 00:05:04,618 --> 00:05:08,576 Everybody upwardly mobile and ambitious, 71 00:05:08,618 --> 00:05:10,700 and everybody wanted their kids 72 00:05:10,741 --> 00:05:13,158 to do better than they did. 73 00:05:17,491 --> 00:05:19,991 Brooklyn made me hungry. 74 00:05:20,033 --> 00:05:23,241 My father was a tennis pro, and I played tennis, 75 00:05:23,283 --> 00:05:25,576 and I'd visit these estates, and I saw how people live. 76 00:05:25,618 --> 00:05:28,825 And you just see this whole other life. 77 00:05:28,866 --> 00:05:30,660 You were very well aware of the difference 78 00:05:30,700 --> 00:05:32,741 between what they had and what you had. 79 00:05:32,783 --> 00:05:35,450 Somehow tennis expanded the universe, 80 00:05:35,491 --> 00:05:39,158 and you saw that there were other possibilities. 81 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,325 We chose, as much as possible, 82 00:05:41,366 --> 00:05:44,741 to try and pursue those avenues of success. 83 00:05:47,700 --> 00:05:50,366 In college, Ian was very studious. 84 00:05:50,408 --> 00:05:52,325 He wanted to become an attorney. 85 00:05:52,366 --> 00:05:54,866 And Stevie was the social butterfly. 86 00:05:54,908 --> 00:05:58,741 If you wanted to meet a certain girl, you saw Steve Rubell. 87 00:05:58,783 --> 00:06:02,533 If you needed to know what courses to take, 88 00:06:02,576 --> 00:06:04,033 you saw Steve Rubell. 89 00:06:04,075 --> 00:06:08,825 He knew everybody at Syracuse University. 90 00:06:08,866 --> 00:06:11,660 Steve was the most public of people, 91 00:06:11,700 --> 00:06:15,158 but he, in fact, was very private. 92 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,158 He was never open about his sexuality 93 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:19,783 and the fact that he was gay. 94 00:06:19,825 --> 00:06:22,366 It wasn't something we talked about. 95 00:06:22,408 --> 00:06:25,325 You know, it didn't matter. 96 00:06:25,366 --> 00:06:30,033 Steve was an extrovert, and, yeah, I am an introvert, 97 00:06:30,075 --> 00:06:34,700 but inside, value-wise, essence-wise, 98 00:06:34,741 --> 00:06:36,741 you know, we were the same. 99 00:06:43,825 --> 00:06:46,450 After we graduated, I got a job as a lawyer, 100 00:06:46,491 --> 00:06:49,241 and then Steve was working on the steak restaurants. 101 00:06:53,158 --> 00:06:57,576 Steve was very interested in doing steak restaurants 102 00:06:57,618 --> 00:07:00,741 in as many places as fast as he could possibly do it. 103 00:07:00,783 --> 00:07:04,408 He had expanded too quickly, and they weren't doing well. 104 00:07:04,450 --> 00:07:06,825 So I acted as his lawyer 105 00:07:06,866 --> 00:07:09,200 and kept the creditors at bay. 106 00:07:10,783 --> 00:07:13,741 That's when Steve and I became partners. 107 00:07:17,241 --> 00:07:20,450 I was the one that wanted to go into the nightclub business 108 00:07:20,491 --> 00:07:24,366 because I smelled that there was a real, you know, opportunity with it. 109 00:07:24,408 --> 00:07:27,950 That ambition, that drive 110 00:07:27,991 --> 00:07:31,660 really forged a real bond between us. 111 00:07:33,116 --> 00:07:37,991 Steve always felt he had something to prove, 112 00:07:38,033 --> 00:07:40,366 as I did. 113 00:07:40,408 --> 00:07:41,741 From the beginning, 114 00:07:41,783 --> 00:07:44,908 they had this intuitive understanding 115 00:07:44,950 --> 00:07:46,450 that they were getting out 116 00:07:46,491 --> 00:07:48,783 and they were gonna do something big together. 117 00:08:07,576 --> 00:08:09,116 The Vietnam War ended, 118 00:08:09,158 --> 00:08:10,491 and Watergate ended, 119 00:08:10,533 --> 00:08:12,366 and everybody, all of a sudden, 120 00:08:12,408 --> 00:08:14,866 was tired of being concerned about outside forces, 121 00:08:14,908 --> 00:08:17,116 and they said, "I want to have some fun." 122 00:08:17,158 --> 00:08:19,660 They were tired of being serious. 123 00:08:19,700 --> 00:08:22,408 So everybody went out and went wild. 124 00:08:34,576 --> 00:08:38,618 We were going out to clubs in Manhattan all the time, 125 00:08:38,660 --> 00:08:39,991 and trying to figure out 126 00:08:40,033 --> 00:08:41,741 what kind of club we wanted to create. 127 00:08:44,660 --> 00:08:47,866 ♪ Makossa ♪ 128 00:08:47,908 --> 00:08:49,950 Gay clubs were some of the first clubs 129 00:08:49,991 --> 00:08:52,576 that had disco music. 130 00:08:52,618 --> 00:08:54,366 But disco was black music, 131 00:08:54,408 --> 00:08:56,991 and it came out of black clubs. 132 00:08:57,033 --> 00:08:59,158 ♪ Makossa ♪ 133 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,783 The beautiful models, the girls would go to the gay clubs 134 00:09:02,825 --> 00:09:06,075 with the gay designers and hairdressers and makeup men, 135 00:09:06,116 --> 00:09:09,033 and then the straight guys would want to meet the models, 136 00:09:09,075 --> 00:09:10,576 so they would go to these clubs, 137 00:09:10,618 --> 00:09:12,033 and it all started blending. 138 00:09:13,866 --> 00:09:16,283 For me, as a New Yorker, 139 00:09:16,325 --> 00:09:19,576 I'm telling you, this was revolutionary. 140 00:09:19,618 --> 00:09:21,325 And it was the first time 141 00:09:21,366 --> 00:09:24,660 that it felt like people were nonjudgmental. 142 00:09:24,700 --> 00:09:29,241 Everybody was fine with everybody else's culture. 143 00:09:29,283 --> 00:09:35,158 At that time, gay clubs were behind closed doors, hidden. 144 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:40,325 It was a little bit like going to a speakeasy in the '20s, I suppose. 145 00:09:40,366 --> 00:09:41,908 It was subversive, 146 00:09:41,950 --> 00:09:43,491 and there was an incredible energy. 147 00:09:52,950 --> 00:09:55,660 We wanted to tap through the loose, 148 00:09:55,741 --> 00:10:00,660 intense, sweaty, dancing fun that was happening there 149 00:10:00,700 --> 00:10:01,991 and take it up a notch... 150 00:10:04,660 --> 00:10:06,783 to create the ultimate nightclub. 151 00:10:07,950 --> 00:10:09,783 Blow everybody away with it. 152 00:10:09,825 --> 00:10:12,491 Dent the universe. Change the world. 153 00:10:12,533 --> 00:10:14,950 ♪ Makossa ♪ 154 00:10:14,991 --> 00:10:18,366 Ian and I walked into this old opera house and theater, 155 00:10:18,408 --> 00:10:20,033 and Ian and I both saw it, 156 00:10:20,075 --> 00:10:21,915 and we both went upstairs and signed the lease. 157 00:10:21,950 --> 00:10:23,217 And some people said we were crazy 158 00:10:23,241 --> 00:10:24,950 'cause we were on 8th Avenue 159 00:10:24,991 --> 00:10:26,991 and 5th and 4th when the West Side was nothing. 160 00:10:27,033 --> 00:10:29,116 In those days, it was not. 161 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:36,741 And Mayor Beame said he's gonna clean up the streets. 162 00:10:36,783 --> 00:10:38,908 We're still waiting. It's very dirty. 163 00:10:38,950 --> 00:10:41,116 I'm living here many years, when I remember 164 00:10:41,158 --> 00:10:44,325 when it was beautiful, and now it stinks. 165 00:10:44,366 --> 00:10:47,825 54th and 8th wasn't Disneyfied yet. 166 00:10:47,866 --> 00:10:49,908 It was really a very sleazy neighborhood. 167 00:10:49,950 --> 00:10:52,450 Perhaps the sleaziest neighborhood in the city... 168 00:10:52,491 --> 00:10:55,366 the West Side and the Theatre District. 169 00:10:55,408 --> 00:10:56,908 If you wanted to get mugged, 170 00:10:56,950 --> 00:10:59,158 that was really a good place to go. 171 00:11:00,783 --> 00:11:03,200 It was amazing that anyone would think of opening up 172 00:11:03,241 --> 00:11:05,866 a discotheque on West 54th Street. 173 00:11:10,908 --> 00:11:13,533 In the '20s, it was built as an opera house. 174 00:11:13,576 --> 00:11:17,033 And then it used to be a CBS television studio. 175 00:11:17,075 --> 00:11:20,325 And there were some really big-time shows that were there. 176 00:11:20,366 --> 00:11:23,533 Time now for everybody's favorite guessing game... 177 00:11:25,866 --> 00:11:30,200 Uh, What's My Line?, Captain Kangaroo, 178 00:11:30,241 --> 00:11:31,991 The $64,000 Question. 179 00:11:32,033 --> 00:11:35,741 I mean, these are big-time television programs. 180 00:11:35,783 --> 00:11:37,618 They had all moved to L.A., 181 00:11:37,660 --> 00:11:40,533 and it sat empty for a long time. 182 00:11:51,366 --> 00:11:55,866 This is around the 40th anniversary of Studio. 183 00:11:55,908 --> 00:11:58,200 It seems like yesterday to me. 184 00:11:59,783 --> 00:12:05,075 Now there's a sloped floor here for the theater, 185 00:12:05,116 --> 00:12:09,618 like there was when we were here 40 years ago. 186 00:12:09,660 --> 00:12:13,158 But, you know, you can't have a sloped floor and have dancing. 187 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,866 So we had to level it off. 188 00:12:15,908 --> 00:12:17,660 And we didn't have enough time 189 00:12:17,700 --> 00:12:20,618 to get a building permit to do it. 190 00:12:20,660 --> 00:12:23,450 We had to just start working on it immediately. 191 00:12:23,491 --> 00:12:25,950 So we said, "Just go ahead and do it." 192 00:12:27,116 --> 00:12:28,741 We had a guy 193 00:12:28,783 --> 00:12:32,200 on a tall ladder with a paintbrush... 194 00:12:32,241 --> 00:12:34,866 that was maybe 30 feet long... 195 00:12:34,908 --> 00:12:38,660 - Right. Right. - ...and he was painting the ceiling. 196 00:12:38,700 --> 00:12:41,241 And someone kept moving the ladder. 197 00:12:41,283 --> 00:12:44,991 Yeah, I worked 30 hours straight right up to the opening. 198 00:12:45,033 --> 00:12:48,741 Yeah. And it was that kind of unbridled energy, 199 00:12:48,783 --> 00:12:51,866 you know, that got this whole place built in six weeks. 200 00:12:59,116 --> 00:13:00,433 We were competing against 201 00:13:00,595 --> 00:13:03,700 what probably is the best nightclub people in the world, 202 00:13:03,741 --> 00:13:06,283 and wanted to have the best of those clubs. 203 00:13:08,576 --> 00:13:11,283 First, we went to the usual suspects. 204 00:13:11,325 --> 00:13:13,241 They said they couldn't work with us 205 00:13:13,283 --> 00:13:15,660 'cause they were told not to by our competitors. 206 00:13:15,700 --> 00:13:19,033 So, it was out of that problem 207 00:13:19,075 --> 00:13:23,241 that it went to Jules Fisher and Paul Marantz, 208 00:13:23,283 --> 00:13:28,325 Tony award-winning lighting designers. 209 00:13:28,366 --> 00:13:30,618 The theater part was already there, 210 00:13:30,660 --> 00:13:32,908 and we made as much use of it as possible, 211 00:13:32,950 --> 00:13:37,158 which turned out to be a very good idea. 212 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,884 And the people we hired to help us were mostly coming from the theater, 213 00:13:39,908 --> 00:13:44,618 'cause this was all at the speed of a theater production. 214 00:13:44,660 --> 00:13:47,408 We were hammering and nailing, we were working there, 215 00:13:47,450 --> 00:13:49,759 we were wiring, we were doing everything... I don't know... 216 00:13:49,783 --> 00:13:52,366 with no unions, no nothing, you know? 217 00:13:54,741 --> 00:13:57,075 I remember I was even a little bit afraid, 218 00:13:57,116 --> 00:14:00,576 because we had to have people back here. 219 00:14:00,618 --> 00:14:02,783 They were paid $65.00 a night. 220 00:14:02,825 --> 00:14:04,203 That was a lot of money, 221 00:14:04,365 --> 00:14:07,325 and I was afraid it was gonna impact the margins. 222 00:14:07,366 --> 00:14:09,618 And I didn't want to have anybody back here. 223 00:14:09,660 --> 00:14:11,116 You know, even having a lighting guy. 224 00:14:11,158 --> 00:14:14,241 Up to that point, no nightclub had a lighting guy. 225 00:14:14,283 --> 00:14:15,825 The DJ did the lights. 226 00:14:15,866 --> 00:14:17,967 He played the music, and then he played with the lights. 227 00:14:17,991 --> 00:14:20,552 There was nothing like it. So, we had a DJ, we had a lighting guy, 228 00:14:20,576 --> 00:14:22,741 we had two guys on a fly reel back here. 229 00:14:22,783 --> 00:14:24,950 Like, we had four people in that thing. 230 00:14:24,991 --> 00:14:27,783 ♪ Shoot me ♪ 231 00:14:27,825 --> 00:14:31,325 There's still some old CBS residual stuff around here too. 232 00:14:31,366 --> 00:14:34,908 CBS left a lot behind that was just lying here for years. 233 00:14:34,950 --> 00:14:39,366 What we tried to do was keep it in the context of a theater. 234 00:14:39,408 --> 00:14:41,283 All the lighting... Everything was designed... 235 00:14:41,325 --> 00:14:43,450 The rawness of it, the seeing of the lights... 236 00:14:43,491 --> 00:14:46,075 It wasn't designed to be just pretty, 237 00:14:46,116 --> 00:14:48,200 it was designed to be a theater. 238 00:14:52,991 --> 00:14:55,825 There was just a tremendous amount of detail 239 00:14:55,866 --> 00:14:57,783 that went into the band floor. 240 00:14:57,825 --> 00:15:00,618 And, of course, all the interior design. 241 00:15:03,618 --> 00:15:06,491 You know, we just... we had to race ahead 242 00:15:06,533 --> 00:15:09,866 and were doing everything instinctive. 243 00:15:09,908 --> 00:15:13,700 Making the club was Ian's job. 244 00:15:13,741 --> 00:15:15,991 Steve did not get involved in this kind of stuff. 245 00:15:16,033 --> 00:15:18,991 But they were both engineering this whole process 246 00:15:19,033 --> 00:15:22,241 of getting the right crowd in the club. 247 00:15:22,283 --> 00:15:25,825 ♪ Ooh, ahh ♪ 248 00:15:25,866 --> 00:15:28,366 ♪ Ooh, ahh ♪ 249 00:15:28,408 --> 00:15:29,991 Ian and Steve shared the same office, 250 00:15:30,033 --> 00:15:32,283 and Steve was always laying on the couch. 251 00:15:32,325 --> 00:15:35,075 They were making deals and calling people, 252 00:15:35,116 --> 00:15:36,783 and they were sending limousines, 253 00:15:36,825 --> 00:15:41,116 they were inviting all the important big names. 254 00:15:41,158 --> 00:15:46,158 We were also sending out thousands of invitations. 255 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:50,741 All those things contributed to the groundswell, the buzz. 256 00:15:50,783 --> 00:15:53,325 ♪ Ooh, ahh ♪ 257 00:15:53,366 --> 00:15:57,158 ♪ Ooh, ahh ♪ 258 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,783 In the crush of everything that was going on, 259 00:16:01,825 --> 00:16:06,491 it was impossible to get a liquor license in that period of time. 260 00:16:06,533 --> 00:16:08,576 And matter of fact, we kind of forgot about it. 261 00:16:08,618 --> 00:16:10,741 It got lost in everything. 262 00:16:10,783 --> 00:16:14,200 So we thought we would go up and get a series 263 00:16:14,241 --> 00:16:16,908 of one-day catering permits. 264 00:16:16,950 --> 00:16:22,700 And so we called our company the Broadway Catering Corp. 265 00:16:26,325 --> 00:16:30,116 This is the first article ever written on Studio. 266 00:16:30,158 --> 00:16:32,408 This is Deana Winterpiece. 267 00:16:32,450 --> 00:16:34,660 "'Then we saw this', said Steven Rubell, 268 00:16:34,700 --> 00:16:37,783 "leading a tour around the forgotten theater that is, 269 00:16:37,825 --> 00:16:41,991 even as we write, becoming New York's newest discotheque." 270 00:16:42,033 --> 00:16:44,660 How much did it cost? 271 00:16:44,700 --> 00:16:49,200 400,000. I remember that. 272 00:16:49,241 --> 00:16:50,741 - No, it was more, because we... - No. 273 00:16:50,783 --> 00:16:52,783 ...we owed him money. 274 00:16:52,825 --> 00:16:55,450 - We owed him money. - How much? 275 00:16:55,491 --> 00:16:59,241 Probably another 350, 400,000. 276 00:16:59,283 --> 00:17:01,660 Yeah, it was close to 700,000. 277 00:17:01,700 --> 00:17:03,763 -Are you sure, Jack? 'Cause I always remember 400. 278 00:17:03,925 --> 00:17:04,660 Um, yeah. Yeah... 279 00:17:04,700 --> 00:17:06,783 Who did you owe money to? 280 00:17:06,825 --> 00:17:08,533 To the contractor. 281 00:17:08,576 --> 00:17:11,533 And, you know, that made me nervous because I was on the hook. 282 00:17:11,576 --> 00:17:15,450 You guys weren't. We didn't have anything. 283 00:17:15,491 --> 00:17:17,825 Jack, why did you do this? 284 00:17:17,866 --> 00:17:20,700 Steve and Ian had a club, 285 00:17:20,741 --> 00:17:24,450 Enchanted Gardens, which is where I met them. 286 00:17:24,491 --> 00:17:26,158 We had done a bar mitzvah for him. 287 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,033 And I think at that time, it was the first time 288 00:17:29,075 --> 00:17:32,950 that anybody had actually done a discotheque for a, uh... 289 00:17:32,991 --> 00:17:34,783 - Bar mitzvah. - For a bar mitzvah. 290 00:17:38,450 --> 00:17:41,325 Enchanted Garden was the first nightclub 291 00:17:41,366 --> 00:17:42,950 that Steve and I did. 292 00:17:42,991 --> 00:17:45,283 It was a club for the kids in Queens. 293 00:17:49,158 --> 00:17:51,116 The first night, Steve went to the bar 294 00:17:51,158 --> 00:17:52,991 to hang out with the people, 295 00:17:53,033 --> 00:17:55,618 and I went up in the DJ booth to play with the lights. 296 00:17:57,991 --> 00:17:59,491 It's not over yet. 297 00:17:59,533 --> 00:18:01,491 Our fabulous band from Fiorucci 298 00:18:01,533 --> 00:18:04,116 are gonna give you a couple more treats, 299 00:18:04,158 --> 00:18:06,450 and then we hope you'll join in and dance with them. 300 00:18:06,491 --> 00:18:08,491 It was at the Enchanted Garden 301 00:18:08,533 --> 00:18:12,283 that we started to throw these extravagant parties. 302 00:18:12,325 --> 00:18:13,783 We learned the business 303 00:18:13,825 --> 00:18:16,033 and got our feet wet in Queens. 304 00:18:16,075 --> 00:18:18,533 But we always wanted to do 305 00:18:18,576 --> 00:18:22,033 a nightclub in Manhattan, which was the big leagues. 306 00:18:24,408 --> 00:18:26,283 As of tonight, 307 00:18:26,325 --> 00:18:29,783 the disco-goer becomes the performer. 308 00:18:29,825 --> 00:18:32,116 During the night you'll have sunsets, sunrises, 309 00:18:32,158 --> 00:18:35,491 fog machines, snow machines, wind machines. 310 00:18:35,533 --> 00:18:38,533 There'll be a tornado about 1:30 at night to get the people... 311 00:18:38,576 --> 00:18:40,741 Every night at 1:30, there's gonna be a tornado. 312 00:18:40,783 --> 00:18:42,825 Right. Tonight at 1:30, there'll be a tornado. 313 00:18:42,866 --> 00:18:44,491 Where do you take shelter around here? 314 00:18:44,533 --> 00:18:46,991 Oh, we hide upstairs in the balcony. 315 00:18:47,033 --> 00:18:49,075 You can also retreat to the balcony 316 00:18:49,116 --> 00:18:52,033 if you don't want to become one of the performers down there. 317 00:18:52,075 --> 00:18:54,241 In fact, they encourage you to come up here, 318 00:18:54,283 --> 00:18:56,241 whether you come up here to spectate or not. 319 00:18:56,283 --> 00:18:58,325 They give you these binoculars. 320 00:18:58,366 --> 00:19:00,825 Kristy Fair, Channel 11 Action News, 321 00:19:00,866 --> 00:19:05,075 on the balcony, out of the act, at Studio 54. 322 00:19:10,283 --> 00:19:15,491 We had everything riding on this club. 323 00:19:15,533 --> 00:19:19,950 If it was a failure, it would've been a very, very big failure. 324 00:19:19,991 --> 00:19:23,576 And if it was a success, it would've been a big success. 325 00:19:31,033 --> 00:19:34,700 The opening night, there's a mob scene. 326 00:19:34,741 --> 00:19:37,660 It was almost impossible to get close to the door. 327 00:19:39,825 --> 00:19:42,825 We didn't have the velvet rope all stretched out. 328 00:19:42,866 --> 00:19:44,700 And we didn't have adequate security. 329 00:19:44,741 --> 00:19:47,009 We had to take all the rest of the security that was in the place 330 00:19:47,033 --> 00:19:48,700 and put them out front. 331 00:19:48,741 --> 00:19:52,116 And we were afraid that they might break the door down. 332 00:19:52,158 --> 00:19:54,158 All right, please, everybody back up. 333 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,241 At first, I was hired as security, 334 00:19:59,283 --> 00:20:00,783 but that first night, 335 00:20:00,825 --> 00:20:02,700 Steve put me outside the front door, 336 00:20:02,741 --> 00:20:04,991 and I was out front from day one. 337 00:20:05,033 --> 00:20:08,075 And Marc Benecke became the doorman 338 00:20:08,116 --> 00:20:09,825 only because he was the better-looking 339 00:20:09,866 --> 00:20:11,783 of the rest of the security guys. 340 00:20:11,825 --> 00:20:14,241 I'd never worked at a nightclub before. 341 00:20:14,283 --> 00:20:19,033 I, you know, just had to... I had to just kind of wing it. 342 00:20:19,075 --> 00:20:21,783 It was really beyond crazy. 343 00:20:25,158 --> 00:20:30,033 I remember getting past the doorman, 344 00:20:30,075 --> 00:20:32,075 and there was a carpeted... 345 00:20:32,116 --> 00:20:34,158 Looked like almost a runway. 346 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,700 And it was mirrored. 347 00:20:36,741 --> 00:20:39,908 The coatroom was to the right. 348 00:20:39,950 --> 00:20:43,576 I just remember hearing the music, and I threw my coat. 349 00:20:43,618 --> 00:20:45,283 The coat check was so out of control. 350 00:20:45,325 --> 00:20:46,825 I just started giving people tickets. 351 00:20:46,866 --> 00:20:48,426 We were hanging coats or putting coats... 352 00:20:48,450 --> 00:20:50,200 Then we're just throwing coats on the floor. 353 00:20:50,241 --> 00:20:52,509 Like, hundreds of people must've lost their coats that night. 354 00:20:52,533 --> 00:20:55,075 It was... It was total pandemonium. 355 00:20:57,158 --> 00:20:59,158 Boom, boom, boom. 356 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,741 The sound of the music down the hall. 357 00:21:02,783 --> 00:21:06,866 There was a rush to get to the dance floor. Just a rush. 358 00:21:06,908 --> 00:21:08,741 The full blast of the sound, 359 00:21:08,783 --> 00:21:10,866 you know, just came over you in a big wave. 360 00:21:10,908 --> 00:21:14,366 ♪ You make me feel ♪ 361 00:21:14,408 --> 00:21:16,950 ♪ Mighty real ♪ 362 00:21:18,408 --> 00:21:21,491 ♪ You make me feel ♪ 363 00:21:21,533 --> 00:21:25,033 ♪ Mighty real ♪ 364 00:21:27,033 --> 00:21:29,660 The amount of drugs was profound. 365 00:21:29,700 --> 00:21:31,241 You know? And they were all uppers. 366 00:21:31,283 --> 00:21:34,450 No one was on a downer that night. 367 00:21:34,491 --> 00:21:38,200 ♪ You make me feel ♪ 368 00:21:38,241 --> 00:21:42,075 It was carefree. It was hot. It was sexy. 369 00:21:42,116 --> 00:21:45,033 ♪ Mighty real ♪ 370 00:21:45,075 --> 00:21:48,741 ♪ Make me feel mighty real ♪ 371 00:21:48,783 --> 00:21:53,783 Something happened from that first night opening party. 372 00:21:53,825 --> 00:21:55,783 The message was sent out. 373 00:21:55,825 --> 00:21:58,950 It was like, poom, this was the spot. 374 00:21:58,991 --> 00:22:00,950 ♪ I feel real ♪ 375 00:22:00,991 --> 00:22:03,158 They invited the people 376 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,950 that everyone else wanted to be in a room with. 377 00:22:05,991 --> 00:22:09,533 ♪ You make me feel ♪ 378 00:22:09,576 --> 00:22:13,325 ♪ Mighty real ♪ 379 00:22:13,366 --> 00:22:16,908 ♪ You make me feel ♪ 380 00:22:16,950 --> 00:22:20,576 ♪ Mighty real ♪ 381 00:22:20,618 --> 00:22:24,283 ♪ Oh, you make me feel ♪ 382 00:22:24,325 --> 00:22:27,741 ♪ Mighty real ♪ 383 00:22:27,783 --> 00:22:30,033 ♪ You make me feel ♪ 384 00:22:30,075 --> 00:22:31,700 I was absolutely shell-shocked. 385 00:22:33,075 --> 00:22:34,950 Steve was only 33, 386 00:22:34,991 --> 00:22:37,241 I was 29, 387 00:22:37,283 --> 00:22:39,700 and we had this massive hit. 388 00:22:39,741 --> 00:22:42,618 We were on the front page of the New York Post. 389 00:22:42,660 --> 00:22:45,366 No other place had ever gotten that. None. 390 00:22:45,408 --> 00:22:48,660 It was like a dream for us. 391 00:22:48,700 --> 00:22:52,700 Then it was just a question of, uh, feeding the monster. 392 00:22:57,366 --> 00:22:58,908 Who, me? 393 00:23:04,700 --> 00:23:06,176 I think they wanna get out of the cab. 394 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,450 Get them out of the cab. 395 00:23:07,491 --> 00:23:09,158 Oh, you're not shaved. 396 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:10,926 There's no way in a million years you're gonna get in. 397 00:23:10,950 --> 00:23:12,910 - Every... - It doesn't matter. You're not shaved. 398 00:23:12,950 --> 00:23:14,866 - Listen, just go home. - Over here! 399 00:23:14,908 --> 00:23:16,866 I'll try as soon as some leave. 400 00:23:20,158 --> 00:23:22,283 - Marc, check that side. - Right over here. 401 00:23:22,325 --> 00:23:23,866 Can you put the lights down a little? 402 00:23:23,908 --> 00:23:25,408 I can't see some of 'em. 403 00:23:25,450 --> 00:23:27,283 This is the scene 404 00:23:27,325 --> 00:23:30,533 outside a New York disco called Studio 54. 405 00:23:30,576 --> 00:23:33,241 This is the place that's in with the disco crowd. 406 00:23:33,283 --> 00:23:35,366 Except that these people are still out. 407 00:23:37,408 --> 00:23:39,783 Of course, Liza Minnelli and her kind of celebrities 408 00:23:39,825 --> 00:23:42,783 sweep right through the protective ranks of doorkeepers. 409 00:23:42,825 --> 00:23:43,588 The ropes came about 410 00:23:43,750 --> 00:23:45,991 because there were prostitutes on 8th and 5th and 4th, 411 00:23:46,033 --> 00:23:48,741 and in order to keep them out, we put the ropes up. 412 00:23:48,783 --> 00:23:50,950 And the ropes became part of the game. 413 00:23:50,991 --> 00:23:52,991 Steve! 414 00:23:53,033 --> 00:23:54,700 Now, you only admit celebrities? 415 00:23:54,741 --> 00:23:57,325 No. No. We admit everybody. 416 00:23:57,366 --> 00:23:58,366 How do you choose? 417 00:23:58,408 --> 00:24:00,783 What are your criteria for admitting someone? 418 00:24:00,825 --> 00:24:01,661 Really fun-loving... 419 00:24:01,823 --> 00:24:03,991 We want people who are just in there to have fun 420 00:24:04,033 --> 00:24:05,908 and not get heavy with each other. 421 00:24:05,950 --> 00:24:08,825 - People come there to relax. - You favor couples versus singles? 422 00:24:08,866 --> 00:24:11,366 We... Couples, gay people, you know? 423 00:24:15,741 --> 00:24:17,576 Going out in those days, 424 00:24:17,618 --> 00:24:19,700 it was all about ego. 425 00:24:19,741 --> 00:24:23,158 This was one's lifestyle. 426 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,866 If you didn't see somebody at Studio 54, 427 00:24:26,908 --> 00:24:29,283 it meant they couldn't get in. 428 00:24:29,325 --> 00:24:31,660 And what did that mean? 429 00:24:31,741 --> 00:24:34,533 Pfft! 430 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,991 Every night, there would be a guest list 431 00:24:40,033 --> 00:24:42,325 that would be for the front door. 432 00:24:42,366 --> 00:24:44,950 There'd be somebody's name on the guest list, 433 00:24:44,991 --> 00:24:46,366 then the next column, 434 00:24:46,408 --> 00:24:50,618 there would be "pay," "comp," or "NFU." 435 00:24:50,660 --> 00:24:54,450 And "NFU" meant "no fuck-up." 436 00:24:54,491 --> 00:24:56,991 That meant that Marc had to let them in. 437 00:24:57,033 --> 00:24:59,991 We had "GN," which really meant "NG," 438 00:25:00,033 --> 00:25:02,408 which meant "no good," which means if they were no good, 439 00:25:02,450 --> 00:25:04,825 you don't have to let them in. Celebrities... 440 00:25:04,866 --> 00:25:07,908 Some celebrities get special treatment, others don't. 441 00:25:07,950 --> 00:25:11,491 - Do they get in for nothing? - Most of them do, not all. 442 00:25:11,533 --> 00:25:14,576 Mick Jagger and Keith Richards, of course, would get in. 443 00:25:14,618 --> 00:25:18,033 But some of the other Rolling Stones actually had to pay. 444 00:25:21,618 --> 00:25:25,783 Friday and Saturday night, you know, 445 00:25:25,825 --> 00:25:28,825 the so-called bridge-and-tunnel crowd used to come in. 446 00:25:28,866 --> 00:25:30,576 They didn't get into Studio 54. 447 00:25:30,618 --> 00:25:34,325 They probably did go to New York-New York, 448 00:25:34,366 --> 00:25:37,366 and Infinity, the Ice Palace, 449 00:25:37,408 --> 00:25:40,116 you know, Hurrah's, and other clubs like that. 450 00:25:40,158 --> 00:25:43,283 But they weren't coming to Studio 54. 451 00:25:43,325 --> 00:25:46,200 Steve is the one who came up with that term "bridge-and-tunnel." 452 00:25:46,241 --> 00:25:47,950 You know, it was his way 453 00:25:47,991 --> 00:25:50,866 of explaining that we didn't want people 454 00:25:50,908 --> 00:25:55,283 with the polyester shirts, gold chains. 455 00:25:55,325 --> 00:25:57,408 "Polyester melts under the lights." 456 00:25:57,450 --> 00:26:00,576 That was, uh... That was one we heard a lot. 457 00:26:00,618 --> 00:26:02,594 He would split up couples. He would say to the girl, 458 00:26:02,618 --> 00:26:04,075 "You're really beautiful. You're in, 459 00:26:04,116 --> 00:26:05,741 "but your boyfriend's gotta go home 460 00:26:05,783 --> 00:26:07,825 and change into a cotton shirt." 461 00:26:07,866 --> 00:26:10,408 And would you let yourself in wearing a shirt like that? 462 00:26:10,450 --> 00:26:12,533 This shirt? Yeah, this is a good one to let in... 463 00:26:12,576 --> 00:26:15,991 these Hawaiian shirts. Uh, good one. But, uh, 464 00:26:16,033 --> 00:26:18,467 I don't know if I would've let myself in when the place started. 465 00:26:18,491 --> 00:26:21,116 I doubt it really very much. If somebody else was to... 466 00:26:21,158 --> 00:26:23,116 No, actually, it isn't like that. 467 00:26:23,158 --> 00:26:26,825 The only thing that it's not based on is money. 468 00:26:26,866 --> 00:26:29,491 Has anybody ever offered you sex? Oh, yeah. 469 00:26:29,533 --> 00:26:33,783 - Do you take it? - Depends on the offer. 470 00:26:33,825 --> 00:26:36,033 But they have to be hot enough to get inside first. 471 00:26:36,075 --> 00:26:38,594 Because if they weren't, then that wouldn't be a problem anyway. 472 00:26:38,618 --> 00:26:41,283 So it doesn't matter. 473 00:26:46,241 --> 00:26:48,033 If you look at the photograph, 474 00:26:48,075 --> 00:26:50,241 it's a more slightly hopeful throng. 475 00:26:50,283 --> 00:26:52,366 You see an occasional waved hand, 476 00:26:52,408 --> 00:26:58,116 a little grin trying to catch the eye of Marc Benecke or Steve. 477 00:26:58,158 --> 00:27:01,491 It's like the damned looking into paradise. 478 00:27:03,576 --> 00:27:05,908 I don't know. Last time I was here, I got in right away. 479 00:27:05,950 --> 00:27:09,991 So I don't know. I guess they either like the way you look, or they don't. 480 00:27:10,033 --> 00:27:13,491 If I knew what their policy was and how they selected 481 00:27:13,533 --> 00:27:17,033 those who are permitted entrance to the inner sanctum, 482 00:27:17,075 --> 00:27:21,325 I might even alter my personality, my dress, 483 00:27:21,366 --> 00:27:22,908 in order to pass inspection. 484 00:27:22,950 --> 00:27:25,660 But they, apparently, keep it a secret. 485 00:27:29,325 --> 00:27:32,618 There was a passion to get in, 486 00:27:32,660 --> 00:27:35,450 and a resentment and a hatred if you didn't. 487 00:27:35,491 --> 00:27:39,825 We didn't care. We just wanted the success. 488 00:27:51,075 --> 00:27:55,325 Ian and Steve were excellent at the PR. 489 00:27:55,366 --> 00:27:58,450 Steve just loved getting on the phone, 490 00:27:58,491 --> 00:28:00,741 and talking to the press and letting them know 491 00:28:00,783 --> 00:28:02,450 who was there, what went on. 492 00:28:02,491 --> 00:28:05,450 And we got more press than anybody else. 493 00:28:09,116 --> 00:28:12,408 Ian called me up and said, "Let's make a deal." 494 00:28:12,450 --> 00:28:16,366 And I would get paid for wrangling the celebrities. 495 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,618 If I generated PR around that person, 496 00:28:23,660 --> 00:28:28,116 I would get $500 for the cover of the Daily News. 497 00:28:28,158 --> 00:28:30,009 If I got them on the cover of the New York Post, 498 00:28:30,033 --> 00:28:31,991 it would be an additional $500. 499 00:28:32,033 --> 00:28:35,366 And then if I got them into "Page Six," it'd be like 150. 500 00:28:35,408 --> 00:28:38,450 So, any celebrity that walked in 501 00:28:38,491 --> 00:28:41,450 pretty much got on the cover of the New York Post or the Daily News. 502 00:28:41,491 --> 00:28:44,576 It was huge news. 503 00:28:44,618 --> 00:28:47,241 Anything that happened there 504 00:28:47,283 --> 00:28:49,491 was on the cover of the newspapers, 505 00:28:49,533 --> 00:28:52,241 was double pages inside. 506 00:28:52,283 --> 00:28:55,158 And there were celebrities there every night. 507 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,533 Everyone felt like they had to be there, 508 00:28:58,576 --> 00:29:02,450 or they were missing out. 509 00:29:02,491 --> 00:29:04,660 There was this paradigm shift 510 00:29:04,700 --> 00:29:09,576 away from reading about crime and and sports heroes, 511 00:29:09,618 --> 00:29:12,200 and people became fascinated with celebrities. 512 00:29:14,325 --> 00:29:18,200 It was the beginning of the age of celebrity. 513 00:29:18,241 --> 00:29:20,408 We were there at the right time, 514 00:29:20,450 --> 00:29:23,908 and we rode it for all that it was worth. 515 00:29:32,660 --> 00:29:36,200 The photographers we let in were those that we could control, 516 00:29:36,241 --> 00:29:39,491 that would play by the rules that we set up. 517 00:29:43,660 --> 00:29:46,533 Here's the Studio 54 box. 518 00:29:48,700 --> 00:29:51,116 Here's some of the pictures that I've taken. 519 00:29:51,158 --> 00:29:56,033 This is a great shot of, uh, Elton John 520 00:29:56,075 --> 00:30:00,450 feeling the boobs of Divine. 521 00:30:00,491 --> 00:30:06,116 I did miss Bianca, but I got Dolly Parton kissing this horse. 522 00:30:06,158 --> 00:30:08,533 In the limousine, I got this great shot 523 00:30:08,576 --> 00:30:10,950 of Liz Taylor in a limousine. 524 00:30:10,991 --> 00:30:12,825 I call it "Fat Liz." 525 00:30:14,618 --> 00:30:17,783 Here we have Truman Capote with his robe. 526 00:30:17,825 --> 00:30:20,283 And he had slippers. I have another shot 527 00:30:20,325 --> 00:30:25,200 with his slippers... with his initials on his slippers. 528 00:30:26,783 --> 00:30:30,991 There's Ian Schrager at the stage door, 529 00:30:31,033 --> 00:30:33,450 looking for an arrival of a celebrity. 530 00:30:33,491 --> 00:30:35,866 I don't know which celebrity he was looking for. 531 00:30:35,908 --> 00:30:37,825 But Ian was very nice. 532 00:30:37,866 --> 00:30:40,866 He was an introvert. 533 00:30:40,908 --> 00:30:42,450 He was rare, actually. 534 00:30:42,491 --> 00:30:44,283 It was a rare time I got that picture. 535 00:30:44,325 --> 00:30:46,283 He didn't like publicity. Like, you see, 536 00:30:46,325 --> 00:30:49,783 here's a braggadocio. 537 00:30:49,825 --> 00:30:52,033 Here's a braggadocio! 538 00:30:52,075 --> 00:30:53,783 Steve Rubell! 539 00:30:53,825 --> 00:30:55,741 Here I am. 540 00:30:55,783 --> 00:30:57,741 Look at me. 541 00:30:57,783 --> 00:31:01,618 He's there with the stars. Big stars, small stars. 542 00:31:01,660 --> 00:31:04,116 He wanted exposure, and he got it. 543 00:31:04,158 --> 00:31:07,450 He got a lot of exposure. He's in the pictures. 544 00:31:11,866 --> 00:31:13,450 What came first, 545 00:31:13,491 --> 00:31:16,491 the photographers or the celebrities? 546 00:31:16,533 --> 00:31:18,950 I think the room, and being an old studio, 547 00:31:18,991 --> 00:31:21,325 an old theater, and the lights, and... 548 00:31:21,366 --> 00:31:23,241 That has a lot to do with it. I mean, 549 00:31:23,283 --> 00:31:25,200 you have to build a nice mousetrap 550 00:31:25,241 --> 00:31:27,283 to attract the mice. 551 00:31:30,908 --> 00:31:34,533 Steve really took care of these celebrities. 552 00:31:34,576 --> 00:31:38,408 He became very friendly with fashion designers like Halston. 553 00:31:38,450 --> 00:31:41,491 The press actually came up with this phrase, 554 00:31:41,533 --> 00:31:43,950 "Halston-Liza-Bianca-Andy," 555 00:31:43,991 --> 00:31:45,618 with hyphens between the names. 556 00:31:45,660 --> 00:31:47,450 It was like a unit. 557 00:31:47,491 --> 00:31:50,325 They were the core group. 558 00:31:50,366 --> 00:31:52,908 Studio got so much publicity 559 00:31:52,950 --> 00:31:55,158 that it made all of these people 560 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,116 more of household names. 561 00:31:57,158 --> 00:31:59,283 - Hello, Steven. - Hi. 562 00:31:59,325 --> 00:32:01,842 I go out of my way to take care of them, make them feel comfortable, 563 00:32:01,866 --> 00:32:04,825 honestly, 'cause I get off on it myself. 564 00:32:04,866 --> 00:32:06,950 This was really his dream. 565 00:32:06,991 --> 00:32:10,283 His dream was to be the best friends with everyone he saw 566 00:32:10,325 --> 00:32:13,491 in the newspapers and in magazines growing up. 567 00:32:13,533 --> 00:32:14,950 And they were. 568 00:32:14,991 --> 00:32:17,366 Hi, Michael. Come on in. You can come right in. Hi. 569 00:32:17,408 --> 00:32:19,116 - Hi. Hi. - How are you? 570 00:32:19,158 --> 00:32:21,283 - You just walked in? How are you? - Yeah, I did. 571 00:32:21,325 --> 00:32:23,276 -Michael, this is Jane Pauley. Come sit over here. 572 00:32:23,300 --> 00:32:24,241 Excuse me. Whoops. Can I? 573 00:32:24,283 --> 00:32:26,576 - Hi. Fine. - How do you do, Michael Jackson? 574 00:32:26,618 --> 00:32:28,783 Good to see you. Come here a lot? 575 00:32:28,825 --> 00:32:32,741 Oh, God, yes. Because, well... Why? 576 00:32:32,783 --> 00:32:34,991 I like the atmosphere of Studio 54. 577 00:32:35,033 --> 00:32:36,491 I've been to a lot of discotheques, 578 00:32:36,533 --> 00:32:37,908 and I don't like them, honestly. 579 00:32:37,950 --> 00:32:39,283 What's the difference? 580 00:32:39,325 --> 00:32:40,866 All around the world, I've been... 581 00:32:40,908 --> 00:32:42,700 I don't know. The feeling... I mean, 582 00:32:42,741 --> 00:32:46,116 the excitement of the props coming down, and the balcony... 583 00:32:46,158 --> 00:32:48,491 It's just exciting. Honestly. 584 00:32:48,533 --> 00:32:50,783 People take good care of you here? 585 00:32:50,825 --> 00:32:54,283 - Yes. Steve's very nice. - What's Stevie like? 586 00:32:54,325 --> 00:32:57,660 He's one of my favorite people because he's genuine, 587 00:32:57,700 --> 00:33:00,576 and for real and honest. 588 00:33:00,618 --> 00:33:02,158 And that's what I like in people. 589 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,533 When you hear the name Studio 54, what does that do? 590 00:33:04,576 --> 00:33:06,991 Does it... your pulse quicken, and your feet start moving? 591 00:33:07,033 --> 00:33:09,033 Yeah, I'm ready to have a good time. 592 00:33:09,075 --> 00:33:11,366 It's where you come when you want to escape. 593 00:33:11,408 --> 00:33:14,660 It's really escapism. 594 00:33:14,700 --> 00:33:18,033 That's what I try to make it be, too, is escapism. 595 00:33:18,075 --> 00:33:21,450 In other words, people who have... whatever hassles they have all day, 596 00:33:21,491 --> 00:33:23,967 - they come here, and they can forget about them. - That's right. 597 00:33:23,991 --> 00:33:26,950 And they can come here and just be yourself and dance. 598 00:33:28,866 --> 00:33:30,450 When you dance here, you're just free. 599 00:33:30,491 --> 00:33:32,618 You dance with whoever you want to. 600 00:33:32,660 --> 00:33:35,366 You just go... I mean, you just go wild. 601 00:33:38,950 --> 00:33:42,241 There aren't that many times in life 602 00:33:42,283 --> 00:33:45,450 where you're absolutely free. 603 00:33:48,783 --> 00:33:52,950 Everybody felt protected and safe. 604 00:33:56,075 --> 00:33:59,491 You felt like you were in a place where you could relax. 605 00:33:59,533 --> 00:34:03,283 You saw gay men kissing for the first time there. 606 00:34:03,325 --> 00:34:05,908 And celebrities with gay men. 607 00:34:05,950 --> 00:34:08,408 And people didn't judge. 608 00:34:08,450 --> 00:34:11,241 You could be who you are when you were there. 609 00:34:11,283 --> 00:34:15,033 The lighting and everything... I mean, it makes you feel sensuous. 610 00:34:15,075 --> 00:34:16,991 All this going on and drinking 611 00:34:17,033 --> 00:34:18,783 and thump-thump-thump music 612 00:34:18,825 --> 00:34:21,491 and beautiful people everywhere. 613 00:34:21,533 --> 00:34:24,033 It makes you want to feel like that. 614 00:34:26,408 --> 00:34:28,950 I was wearing lingerie and heels, 615 00:34:28,991 --> 00:34:30,991 and I could go to the dance floor, 616 00:34:31,033 --> 00:34:33,158 and I could dance with everybody. 617 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,660 I'd float on the dance floor and dance with... 618 00:34:36,700 --> 00:34:38,866 They were all my friends. 619 00:34:38,908 --> 00:34:40,950 I mean, I didn't know them. They didn't know me. 620 00:34:40,991 --> 00:34:43,158 But they didn't care, and I didn't care. 621 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,576 So that's how we danced at Studio. 622 00:34:45,618 --> 00:34:47,991 We danced with the entire club. 623 00:34:51,533 --> 00:34:53,866 Disco was a haven 624 00:34:53,908 --> 00:34:57,283 for, you know, inclusion and acceptance, 625 00:34:57,325 --> 00:34:59,366 and that the street wasn't. 626 00:34:59,408 --> 00:35:00,866 Out on the street, 627 00:35:00,908 --> 00:35:04,908 homophobia existed much more than even today. 628 00:35:04,950 --> 00:35:07,408 Transgenders took their lives in their hands 629 00:35:07,450 --> 00:35:09,241 walking down the street in New York City. 630 00:35:11,075 --> 00:35:14,866 But as soon as they stepped foot into the disco, they were safe. 631 00:35:14,908 --> 00:35:18,075 And not only they were safe, but they were included, 632 00:35:18,116 --> 00:35:21,450 they were accepted, they were part of the scene. 633 00:35:21,491 --> 00:35:23,991 Do people ever insult you or are rude to you? 634 00:35:24,033 --> 00:35:25,825 - No. - No, they're petrified. 635 00:35:25,866 --> 00:35:27,991 They think we escaped from a Broadway show. 636 00:35:28,033 --> 00:35:29,660 Basically, New York people are very open 637 00:35:29,700 --> 00:35:31,283 and very courteous and kind. 638 00:35:31,325 --> 00:35:33,033 No. No, that's not true. Only at Studio. 639 00:35:33,075 --> 00:35:34,866 - We truly feel at home here. - Yeah. Yes. 640 00:35:34,908 --> 00:35:38,283 We pay rent, sort of. $14.00 is rent, I think, you know? 641 00:35:38,325 --> 00:35:43,033 At Studio 54, gay energy was bigger than life. 642 00:35:43,075 --> 00:35:45,950 The influence filled the room and filled the space. 643 00:35:48,866 --> 00:35:51,741 The mantra at Studio was you were in a fantasy 644 00:35:51,783 --> 00:35:53,618 and you could be anyone you wanted to be 645 00:35:53,660 --> 00:35:55,866 for that moment in time, and people did. 646 00:35:55,908 --> 00:35:59,408 ♪ All that love and affection ♪ 647 00:35:59,450 --> 00:36:01,325 Thank you, Rollerina. I really needed that. 648 00:36:01,366 --> 00:36:06,283 Rollerina was a Wall Street banker by day, 649 00:36:06,325 --> 00:36:08,325 a fairy godmother by night. 650 00:36:10,533 --> 00:36:12,783 Disco Sally was a lawyer, 651 00:36:12,825 --> 00:36:15,700 and she was about 78 years old. 652 00:36:15,741 --> 00:36:18,158 I was against Disco Sally at the beginning 653 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,325 'cause I thought the whole thing was kind of gimmicky. 654 00:36:21,366 --> 00:36:23,491 And Steve's like, "No, no, you're wrong. You're wrong. 655 00:36:23,533 --> 00:36:25,533 This is good for the club. It's good for the club." 656 00:36:28,283 --> 00:36:29,576 Potassa, who was, like, 657 00:36:29,618 --> 00:36:30,908 the most fabulous drag queen 658 00:36:30,950 --> 00:36:32,491 of that whole era. 659 00:36:32,533 --> 00:36:35,866 She was 5'11" out of shoes, 660 00:36:35,908 --> 00:36:38,283 and 6'6" in shoes. 661 00:36:38,325 --> 00:36:43,075 And you never, ever, ever, ever, ever saw her out of drag. 662 00:36:43,116 --> 00:36:46,116 And she'd hold center stage when she wanted to. 663 00:36:52,075 --> 00:36:54,491 What's really beautiful about the Studio... 664 00:36:54,533 --> 00:36:56,283 the combination of people. 665 00:36:56,325 --> 00:36:59,576 If you put just the beautiful people so close together, 666 00:36:59,618 --> 00:37:01,908 then they... they are used to seeing each other. 667 00:37:01,950 --> 00:37:03,618 They might even get bored of that. 668 00:37:03,660 --> 00:37:05,283 But if you mix them properly, 669 00:37:05,325 --> 00:37:07,033 which was the case of the Studio, 670 00:37:07,075 --> 00:37:08,618 with all the bizarre characters 671 00:37:08,660 --> 00:37:10,241 and the transvestites, and all that, 672 00:37:10,283 --> 00:37:11,660 they like the combination. 673 00:37:11,700 --> 00:37:13,991 I think it was a wonderful cocktail. 674 00:37:18,450 --> 00:37:22,366 That diversity created this combustible energy. 675 00:37:22,408 --> 00:37:24,283 It was tribal almost. 676 00:37:24,325 --> 00:37:26,366 That wild abandonment, 677 00:37:26,408 --> 00:37:28,158 that freedom was all a part of it. 678 00:37:32,491 --> 00:37:35,866 It was like an adult amusement park. 679 00:37:35,908 --> 00:37:38,991 They had a real sense of what people wanted. 680 00:37:39,033 --> 00:37:41,241 You know? Adults wanted. 681 00:37:41,283 --> 00:37:46,991 ♪ Ahh, my baby's baby ♪ 682 00:37:48,408 --> 00:37:51,200 ♪ Oh, my ♪ 683 00:37:51,241 --> 00:37:54,783 ♪ My baby's baby ♪ 684 00:37:57,241 --> 00:38:00,825 In the '70s, there was this kind of window of opportunity 685 00:38:00,866 --> 00:38:03,075 between the invention of the pill 686 00:38:03,116 --> 00:38:04,991 and the advent of AIDS. 687 00:38:05,033 --> 00:38:07,366 So, even if you weren't promiscuous 688 00:38:07,408 --> 00:38:09,741 or sleeping with someone different every night, 689 00:38:09,783 --> 00:38:11,366 you felt like you could. 690 00:38:11,408 --> 00:38:13,991 You know, love was in the air. 691 00:38:14,033 --> 00:38:15,908 Sex was in the air. 692 00:38:15,950 --> 00:38:20,116 ♪ Fly, robin, fly ♪ 693 00:38:20,158 --> 00:38:22,491 In the balconies, it was dark. 694 00:38:22,533 --> 00:38:25,741 People would make out, and maybe somebody would give somebody a blow job. 695 00:38:25,783 --> 00:38:27,283 ♪ Fly, robin, fly ♪ 696 00:38:27,325 --> 00:38:30,116 Same thing in the bathrooms. 697 00:38:30,158 --> 00:38:33,241 ♪ Up, up to the sky ♪ 698 00:38:33,283 --> 00:38:36,408 There were mattresses in the basement. 699 00:38:36,450 --> 00:38:38,618 And I went down there 700 00:38:38,660 --> 00:38:40,660 and slept with a lot of people. A lot. 701 00:38:48,576 --> 00:38:50,158 Gay people had the advantage 702 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,741 because no one was getting pregnant. So, basically, 703 00:38:52,783 --> 00:38:54,700 you could just go out there and have a blast, 704 00:38:54,741 --> 00:38:56,217 and you could have sex as much as you want, 705 00:38:56,241 --> 00:38:57,426 and there was no repercussions. 706 00:38:57,450 --> 00:38:58,700 And why not? 707 00:38:58,741 --> 00:39:00,116 Because you're supposed to now. 708 00:39:00,158 --> 00:39:01,576 It's all about freedom. 709 00:39:01,618 --> 00:39:03,241 You could try anything. 710 00:39:11,075 --> 00:39:12,491 Steve had this huge coat 711 00:39:12,533 --> 00:39:14,241 that he would wear a lot of times, 712 00:39:14,283 --> 00:39:16,700 and in that coat was money and drugs. 713 00:39:16,741 --> 00:39:20,116 And it was like Daddy Warbucks. 714 00:39:20,158 --> 00:39:24,033 Steve was big on Quaaludes, to be quite frank about it. 715 00:39:24,075 --> 00:39:26,660 He loved giving out the Quaaludes. If you said, "Steve, 716 00:39:26,700 --> 00:39:28,884 I don't want a quaalude," he'd say, "Oh, just take a half." 717 00:39:28,908 --> 00:39:31,866 Oh, I don't think you're a priest, are ya? 718 00:39:31,908 --> 00:39:34,033 You're too much of a bad boy. 719 00:39:34,075 --> 00:39:38,450 He always wanted to get the party going to another level. 720 00:39:38,491 --> 00:39:40,700 You can say higher and lower, 721 00:39:40,741 --> 00:39:43,116 and I'll leave that open to interpretation. 722 00:39:43,158 --> 00:39:45,241 Everybody, come on! 723 00:39:45,283 --> 00:39:47,491 You think this happens anywhere else in the world? 724 00:39:47,533 --> 00:39:50,450 - No. - No, I was all over the world. 725 00:39:50,491 --> 00:39:54,241 I'm happy. 726 00:39:54,283 --> 00:39:56,450 The music, the lights, 727 00:39:56,491 --> 00:39:59,783 supple-bodied young waiters dressed in nothing but shorts, 728 00:39:59,825 --> 00:40:02,783 and drinks at one pound fifty a glass. 729 00:40:02,825 --> 00:40:07,200 The formula has made the owner a very rich young man. 730 00:40:09,741 --> 00:40:12,075 He enjoyed every night. 731 00:40:12,116 --> 00:40:15,741 I mean, Steve probably had more fun than anybody. 732 00:40:15,783 --> 00:40:18,908 And the environment we created allowed him 733 00:40:18,950 --> 00:40:22,991 to be comfortable and accept his sexuality, 734 00:40:23,033 --> 00:40:25,408 maybe for the first time in his whole life. 735 00:40:27,241 --> 00:40:29,576 He was in his element. 736 00:40:29,618 --> 00:40:32,700 To me, it was different. 737 00:40:32,741 --> 00:40:34,283 I didn't want to walk through the crowd 738 00:40:34,325 --> 00:40:36,991 and have to be poked, people say hello. 739 00:40:38,618 --> 00:40:42,533 All the time that Studio 54 existed, 740 00:40:42,576 --> 00:40:48,200 you rarely saw pictures of Ian or read anything about Ian. 741 00:40:48,241 --> 00:40:51,660 Ian was behind the scenes. 742 00:40:51,700 --> 00:40:54,283 But he was the brilliant mind 743 00:40:54,325 --> 00:40:58,283 and designing in a way that had never been seen. 744 00:40:58,325 --> 00:41:00,741 People were just obsessed 745 00:41:00,783 --> 00:41:03,741 with what he was gonna do next. 746 00:41:05,660 --> 00:41:08,741 There was a theatrical quality of the place 747 00:41:08,783 --> 00:41:12,241 that I'd never seen before. 748 00:41:12,283 --> 00:41:15,283 It was an experience. 749 00:41:15,325 --> 00:41:17,991 Touching, like, pretty much all of your senses. 750 00:41:27,908 --> 00:41:29,950 It's a visceral business. 751 00:41:33,366 --> 00:41:35,075 You have really no discernible product 752 00:41:35,116 --> 00:41:36,908 except the magic you create. 753 00:41:42,325 --> 00:41:45,866 The moving of lights and sets and changing the environment 754 00:41:45,908 --> 00:41:48,200 from one second to the next... 755 00:41:48,241 --> 00:41:50,241 that had never been done before. 756 00:41:55,908 --> 00:41:59,450 Ian really created a world of fantasy. 757 00:41:59,491 --> 00:42:01,991 It was the transformation of individuals 758 00:42:02,033 --> 00:42:04,075 into this sort of group energy 759 00:42:04,116 --> 00:42:06,491 that absolutely exploded. 760 00:42:21,408 --> 00:42:26,033 Ian really is a genius for creating experiences for people. 761 00:42:26,075 --> 00:42:29,741 We went right up to the edge 762 00:42:29,783 --> 00:42:33,783 in every single aspect of it. 763 00:42:33,825 --> 00:42:37,908 Building code, modalities, taste levels, social morays... 764 00:42:37,950 --> 00:42:40,533 everything, right up to the edge. 765 00:42:44,033 --> 00:42:48,116 It would cost as much as 40,000 or $50,000 766 00:42:48,158 --> 00:42:50,576 just for the one night. 767 00:42:52,825 --> 00:42:55,991 We wanted to break down that barrier 768 00:42:56,033 --> 00:42:59,158 between the audience and the performers 769 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,408 and introduce the idea that anything could happen. 770 00:43:02,450 --> 00:43:03,450 And it did. 771 00:43:08,491 --> 00:43:12,116 Everybody who worked there knew we were cast members. 772 00:43:12,158 --> 00:43:14,075 We were putting on a show, 773 00:43:14,116 --> 00:43:16,991 and everybody had to give an incredible performance 774 00:43:17,033 --> 00:43:18,700 and give an incredible service. 775 00:43:29,366 --> 00:43:31,825 I was addicted to Studio 54, 776 00:43:31,866 --> 00:43:33,908 without any question. 777 00:43:33,950 --> 00:43:36,991 I had to go there every night, and so did a lot of people. 778 00:43:37,033 --> 00:43:41,741 Studio 54 is probably the Mount Olympus of the disco world. 779 00:43:41,783 --> 00:43:43,660 Right now, it is the center of the universe 780 00:43:43,700 --> 00:43:46,283 for those who dance to 125 beats a minute. 781 00:43:46,325 --> 00:43:50,533 Studio 54, the definitive disco here in New York City. 782 00:44:01,408 --> 00:44:06,325 We were so excited, so high on the success, 783 00:44:06,366 --> 00:44:10,200 that I would count the money at night, which I enjoyed. 784 00:44:10,241 --> 00:44:13,033 You know, dump the money out of the bag, 785 00:44:13,075 --> 00:44:16,950 kind of arrange it, and then split it up in... 786 00:44:16,991 --> 00:44:18,991 You know, and I would make three piles, 787 00:44:19,033 --> 00:44:22,325 and bring in a pile for Steve and a pile for Jack. 788 00:44:25,325 --> 00:44:27,491 One thing that I think, if you hung out there, 789 00:44:27,533 --> 00:44:29,408 you did notice was that they changed 790 00:44:29,450 --> 00:44:32,825 the cash register receipt roll in the middle of the night. 791 00:44:32,866 --> 00:44:35,618 That began to get out. 792 00:44:35,660 --> 00:44:37,783 People began to notice that. 793 00:44:37,825 --> 00:44:40,408 It was about the exhilaration 794 00:44:40,450 --> 00:44:43,700 of having this great success, our life's dream. 795 00:44:46,533 --> 00:44:48,576 We had the best crowd in the world. 796 00:44:48,618 --> 00:44:50,825 We had the best press. We had the best club. 797 00:44:50,866 --> 00:44:52,660 We were number 1. 798 00:44:52,700 --> 00:44:56,033 Suddenly on top of the world. 799 00:44:56,075 --> 00:45:00,033 They were living in a dream, practically. 800 00:45:00,075 --> 00:45:01,783 It was becoming so much fun 801 00:45:01,825 --> 00:45:05,325 that they were losing touch with reality. 802 00:45:12,075 --> 00:45:15,533 I was up in my office with a girl, 803 00:45:15,576 --> 00:45:18,158 and I heard the music stop. 804 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:19,660 Well, I walked downstairs, 805 00:45:19,700 --> 00:45:21,783 and Steve was already over there. 806 00:45:21,825 --> 00:45:24,092 You're encompassed in this little world, and all of a sudden, 807 00:45:24,116 --> 00:45:25,676 the lights went on, and the police are there, 808 00:45:25,700 --> 00:45:28,116 and it was like the reality was in your face, 809 00:45:28,158 --> 00:45:29,491 like holy shit. 810 00:45:29,533 --> 00:45:32,618 And we were both under arrest. 811 00:45:32,660 --> 00:45:34,700 We still didn't have a liquor license, 812 00:45:34,741 --> 00:45:36,700 so we were getting catering permits every night. 813 00:45:36,741 --> 00:45:38,866 But, you know, at a point in time, they're like, 814 00:45:38,908 --> 00:45:41,576 "Okay, why are these guys coming every night for a catering permit? 815 00:45:41,618 --> 00:45:43,660 They're a nightclub, and everybody knows it." 816 00:45:43,700 --> 00:45:45,991 Okay. 817 00:45:46,033 --> 00:45:47,908 Roy Cohn was our lawyer at the time. 818 00:45:47,950 --> 00:45:53,283 I had called him, and, uh... to help us. 819 00:45:53,325 --> 00:45:55,408 Their lawyer was Roy Cohn, 820 00:45:55,450 --> 00:45:58,783 and I knew he was also an attorney for Mob guys 821 00:45:58,825 --> 00:46:01,408 and heavy-duty people in Manhattan. 822 00:46:01,450 --> 00:46:03,241 That kind of made sense to me... 823 00:46:03,283 --> 00:46:05,491 that there's a reason they're not afraid of much. 824 00:46:05,533 --> 00:46:07,783 After a few hours, 825 00:46:07,825 --> 00:46:09,908 we were released. 826 00:46:09,950 --> 00:46:13,283 We were able, you know, to keep the place open 827 00:46:13,325 --> 00:46:16,408 for six months with no liquor. 828 00:46:16,450 --> 00:46:19,741 Then we finally got the license. 829 00:46:19,783 --> 00:46:21,618 I have a picture of me and Steve 830 00:46:21,660 --> 00:46:26,408 holding the liquor license when we got it. 831 00:46:26,450 --> 00:46:28,283 And from that moment on, 832 00:46:28,325 --> 00:46:30,533 we felt like we conquered the world. 833 00:46:36,075 --> 00:46:38,075 They thought they were so important 834 00:46:38,116 --> 00:46:40,450 that they could do anything. 835 00:46:40,491 --> 00:46:44,618 But people started to get angrier and angrier at Steve Rubell 836 00:46:44,660 --> 00:46:47,325 and at Studio 54 because they couldn't get in. 837 00:46:47,366 --> 00:46:49,326 - One day, I'll be a star. - They won't let me in. 838 00:46:52,991 --> 00:46:56,158 You can't have this much popularity 839 00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:00,283 without somebody somewhere 840 00:47:00,325 --> 00:47:03,950 being envious or wanting to take it down. 841 00:47:03,991 --> 00:47:07,660 I mean, it's human nature. It's just the way life is. 842 00:47:11,033 --> 00:47:13,450 The Dan Dorfman article, 843 00:47:13,491 --> 00:47:16,200 Steve said, "Only the Mafia does better, 844 00:47:16,241 --> 00:47:17,700 but don't tell anybody." 845 00:47:19,741 --> 00:47:22,825 Part of Stevie was a braggart, you know? 846 00:47:22,866 --> 00:47:24,866 "Look what I'm doing, I'm having the best time, 847 00:47:24,908 --> 00:47:27,075 and we're making tons of money." 848 00:47:27,116 --> 00:47:29,450 He was very proud about that. 849 00:47:29,491 --> 00:47:31,908 I thought it was the stupidest thing I'd ever seen. 850 00:47:31,950 --> 00:47:33,908 And when I called him, I said, 851 00:47:33,950 --> 00:47:35,325 "You're asking the IRS 852 00:47:35,366 --> 00:47:38,075 to just come knocking at your door." 853 00:47:38,116 --> 00:47:41,283 And he said, "No, no, no one's gonna bother me." 854 00:47:49,408 --> 00:47:52,450 Close to two dozen IRS agents 855 00:47:52,491 --> 00:47:54,450 raided the chic disco this morning, 856 00:47:54,491 --> 00:47:56,491 armed with a warrant to search and seize 857 00:47:56,533 --> 00:48:00,825 any and all records relating to the club's finances. 858 00:48:00,866 --> 00:48:05,200 We got raided on December 14th, 1978. 859 00:48:05,241 --> 00:48:08,116 December 14th... that was just a terrible day. 860 00:48:10,241 --> 00:48:15,033 The Studio 54 case began with an allegation 861 00:48:15,075 --> 00:48:18,241 of a gigantic skimming operation, 862 00:48:18,283 --> 00:48:20,991 that there was cash and drugs hidden 863 00:48:21,033 --> 00:48:24,075 at Studio 54. 864 00:48:24,116 --> 00:48:26,741 One of the cleaning guys called me and said, 865 00:48:26,783 --> 00:48:29,783 "There's some guys here, and they have warrants." 866 00:48:29,825 --> 00:48:31,825 So I called Steve. 867 00:48:31,866 --> 00:48:33,759 Steve said there were some Quaaludes in the safe, 868 00:48:33,783 --> 00:48:35,908 and if I can run over and see if I can get them out. 869 00:48:37,660 --> 00:48:39,660 But I ran into the Feds 870 00:48:39,700 --> 00:48:41,283 while I was in the basement, 871 00:48:41,325 --> 00:48:43,450 and they said, "Are you the manager?" 872 00:48:43,491 --> 00:48:46,783 I said, "Yeah." And they said, "Well, come on, open the safe." 873 00:48:48,116 --> 00:48:50,408 27-42-37, da, da, da. 874 00:48:50,450 --> 00:48:52,200 Two this way, one this way, one this way. 875 00:48:52,241 --> 00:48:53,700 Clink, ploomp, and open. 876 00:48:53,741 --> 00:48:55,075 They said, "Is this everything?" 877 00:48:55,116 --> 00:48:56,408 And that's when I said, 878 00:48:56,450 --> 00:48:57,636 "Well, there's a couple of boxes 879 00:48:57,660 --> 00:48:58,660 up above here too." 880 00:49:02,950 --> 00:49:04,700 First of all, I tried to open the door, 881 00:49:04,741 --> 00:49:05,908 and somebody pulled it back 882 00:49:05,950 --> 00:49:07,825 because they were already in here. 883 00:49:07,866 --> 00:49:09,491 Yeah. 884 00:49:09,533 --> 00:49:11,533 So I put my key in and tried to open it. 885 00:49:11,576 --> 00:49:15,325 Then they pulled it back. And then eventually, 886 00:49:15,366 --> 00:49:18,241 the federal marshal, whatever, just opened it. 887 00:49:18,283 --> 00:49:20,116 This is 9:00 in the morning, by the way. 888 00:49:20,158 --> 00:49:22,866 Federal marshal opened it and said something... 889 00:49:22,908 --> 00:49:24,828 "Do you wanna come in, do you not wanna come in?" 890 00:49:27,241 --> 00:49:30,408 So I came in. I had all my papers with me like I normally have. 891 00:49:30,450 --> 00:49:34,283 I put them down on the floor, then I walked in. 892 00:49:34,325 --> 00:49:37,075 Ian Schrager, one of the owners of Studio 54, 893 00:49:37,116 --> 00:49:38,866 entered the club some time later, 894 00:49:38,908 --> 00:49:40,158 and agents say 895 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,033 that among his records they found cocaine. 896 00:49:43,741 --> 00:49:46,116 It wasn't in my books. It was around my books. 897 00:49:46,158 --> 00:49:48,366 And then they came in. I put my books on the floor. 898 00:49:48,408 --> 00:49:50,450 Maybe it was left from the night before. Who knows? 899 00:49:52,325 --> 00:49:53,908 The field test kit 900 00:49:53,950 --> 00:49:56,325 showed positive presence of cocaine. 901 00:49:56,366 --> 00:49:57,783 Not only was it positive, 902 00:49:57,825 --> 00:49:59,825 the thing was off the charts, pure. 903 00:49:59,866 --> 00:50:01,825 It looked like it had been cut right off the key, 904 00:50:01,866 --> 00:50:03,866 as they say in the narcotics business. 905 00:50:03,908 --> 00:50:07,491 If you're going to walk onto the premises 906 00:50:07,533 --> 00:50:10,450 that are being searched by 50 IRS agents, 907 00:50:10,491 --> 00:50:12,283 with cocaine under your arms, 908 00:50:12,325 --> 00:50:13,991 don't walk in. 909 00:50:19,866 --> 00:50:21,908 I was arrested, and 910 00:50:21,950 --> 00:50:24,618 my first call was to Roy Cohn's office. 911 00:50:24,660 --> 00:50:28,576 And he came down immediately 912 00:50:28,618 --> 00:50:30,618 and advised us 913 00:50:30,660 --> 00:50:32,741 to overturn all the furniture in the office 914 00:50:32,783 --> 00:50:35,618 and make it look like the agent 915 00:50:35,660 --> 00:50:39,158 turned everything upside down, like a Gestapo. 916 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,783 They even ruined my birthday presents. 917 00:50:44,576 --> 00:50:45,825 And it got everybody 918 00:50:45,866 --> 00:50:47,241 even more pissed off at us 919 00:50:47,283 --> 00:50:48,576 because it wasn't true, 920 00:50:48,618 --> 00:50:50,491 and they said they were very careful 921 00:50:50,533 --> 00:50:53,991 to keep everything very neat. 922 00:50:54,033 --> 00:50:55,741 That kind of started 923 00:50:55,783 --> 00:50:57,783 the litany of mistakes we made in this thing 924 00:50:57,825 --> 00:50:59,533 because that made the front page 925 00:50:59,576 --> 00:51:01,033 of the Daily News. 926 00:51:02,991 --> 00:51:05,576 I don't think we realized 927 00:51:05,618 --> 00:51:08,241 the, uh, the seriousness 928 00:51:08,283 --> 00:51:11,158 of, uh, of what we got ourselves involved with 929 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,325 because we're getting away with everything. 930 00:51:13,366 --> 00:51:15,533 And they were interviewing Ian. 931 00:51:15,576 --> 00:51:19,533 Ian was sitting in a chair with the chair turned around, 932 00:51:19,576 --> 00:51:21,491 leaning on it like this. 933 00:51:21,533 --> 00:51:23,325 Like, defiant. 934 00:51:23,366 --> 00:51:26,116 Kind of like, with, like, "Fuck you." 935 00:51:26,158 --> 00:51:28,660 You think he'd be scared, but he wasn't. 936 00:51:28,700 --> 00:51:31,950 He was... He was pissed. 937 00:51:31,991 --> 00:51:34,241 Seven hours after the raid began, 938 00:51:34,283 --> 00:51:37,660 co-owner Steve Rubell emerged with lawyer Roy Cohn, 939 00:51:37,700 --> 00:51:40,533 - who blasted the IRS. - ...publicity stunt... 940 00:51:40,576 --> 00:51:43,660 Well, you tell me one other instance in American history 941 00:51:43,700 --> 00:51:45,783 when 23 Internal Revenue Agents 942 00:51:45,825 --> 00:51:47,825 at the beginning of an investigation, 943 00:51:47,866 --> 00:51:51,200 before they even go to a company's accountants or lawyers, 944 00:51:51,241 --> 00:51:53,283 come in and raid a place, 945 00:51:53,325 --> 00:51:56,408 tear it to pieces, open up everything in sight... 946 00:51:56,450 --> 00:51:59,158 Uh, if that's ever happened before in America, I've never seen it. 947 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:00,384 But what was it? Was it cocaine? 948 00:52:00,408 --> 00:52:01,594 What does it look like inside right now? 949 00:52:01,618 --> 00:52:03,866 It was not in his briefcase. 950 00:52:03,908 --> 00:52:06,366 They do not allege it was in his briefcase. 951 00:52:06,408 --> 00:52:09,158 I've read the complaint, and I was in court, and you weren't. 952 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,033 - Steve, what does it look like inside? - Wait a minute. 953 00:52:12,075 --> 00:52:14,783 We have to fight to get a lawyer into this place. 954 00:52:14,825 --> 00:52:16,700 I came in through the front door to get in. 955 00:52:16,741 --> 00:52:19,741 The first time I had trouble getting in. 956 00:52:21,576 --> 00:52:23,158 One piece I billed him. 957 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,408 - That's a piece... - One piece of the bill. Come on... 958 00:52:25,450 --> 00:52:27,283 Steve, what is the reaction... 959 00:52:27,325 --> 00:52:30,116 - What about the cocaine? - I don't know anything about that. 960 00:52:30,158 --> 00:52:31,594 I really don't know anything about that. 961 00:52:31,618 --> 00:52:33,176 Are there any other drugs on the premises? 962 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:34,920 I don't know anything about any other drugs. 963 00:52:34,950 --> 00:52:37,051 Did you know anything about drugs on the premises this time? 964 00:52:37,075 --> 00:52:39,325 No, I didn't. Absolutely not. 965 00:52:39,366 --> 00:52:40,759 What was your reaction when you heard 966 00:52:40,783 --> 00:52:43,491 that your partner had been arrested for cocaine? 967 00:52:43,533 --> 00:52:46,700 I-I-I'm very fond of Ian. 968 00:52:46,741 --> 00:52:49,325 We went to college together. We met in college. 969 00:52:49,366 --> 00:52:51,991 He's a good guy. And of course I was upset. 970 00:52:52,033 --> 00:52:54,450 Was coke use common at Studio 54? 971 00:52:54,491 --> 00:52:56,283 No, I like... What Roy said... 972 00:52:56,325 --> 00:52:57,783 I don't wanna really comment 973 00:52:57,825 --> 00:52:59,991 on anything to do with that legal case of it, 974 00:53:00,033 --> 00:53:01,325 but, uh, you know... 975 00:53:01,366 --> 00:53:03,408 What? 976 00:53:03,450 --> 00:53:06,158 -Steve, look this way, please. Thank you. 977 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,450 I feel like the president today. 978 00:53:14,576 --> 00:53:17,366 We had had every great lawyer 979 00:53:17,408 --> 00:53:18,908 working for us. 980 00:53:18,950 --> 00:53:21,533 You know, we had had one of the lawyers 981 00:53:21,576 --> 00:53:24,116 that had represented John Mitchell on Watergate. 982 00:53:24,158 --> 00:53:25,700 We had James Neal, 983 00:53:25,741 --> 00:53:28,533 who had sent Jimmy Hoffa to jail. 984 00:53:28,576 --> 00:53:31,866 We had had Arthur Liman. We had had Mitchell Rogovin, 985 00:53:31,908 --> 00:53:33,991 who was part of Arnold & Porter, 986 00:53:34,033 --> 00:53:35,283 where Abe Fortas came from, 987 00:53:35,325 --> 00:53:37,200 and he was a Supreme Court Justice. 988 00:53:37,241 --> 00:53:38,576 We'd circled the wagon, 989 00:53:38,618 --> 00:53:40,618 and we got ready to fight the government. 990 00:53:40,660 --> 00:53:44,116 There are, incidentally, 37 lawyers 991 00:53:44,158 --> 00:53:46,660 working on behalf of Schrager and Rubell. 992 00:53:46,700 --> 00:53:49,325 When they were raided, 993 00:53:49,366 --> 00:53:52,866 it was real Schadenfreude here in New York City. 994 00:53:52,908 --> 00:53:55,866 They'd finally got what was coming to them, people felt. 995 00:53:55,908 --> 00:53:57,991 They had their loyal friends, 996 00:53:58,033 --> 00:54:00,491 but nobody was running around with their head in their hands. 997 00:54:00,533 --> 00:54:03,200 "Oh, poor Steve Rubell, poor Ian Schrager"... 998 00:54:03,241 --> 00:54:05,491 None of that happened. People kind of liked it. 999 00:54:05,533 --> 00:54:08,576 And now, following up on the Studio 54 story, 1000 00:54:08,618 --> 00:54:10,825 is Weekend Update correspondent Laraine Newman 1001 00:54:10,866 --> 00:54:12,158 outside Studio 54. 1002 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:13,700 - Laraine? - Thank you, Bill. 1003 00:54:13,741 --> 00:54:16,491 Standing next to me is Steve Rubell, 1004 00:54:16,533 --> 00:54:17,866 co-owner of the club. 1005 00:54:19,325 --> 00:54:21,576 Steve, what was your reaction 1006 00:54:21,618 --> 00:54:24,866 when you learned cocaine had been found here? 1007 00:54:24,908 --> 00:54:27,033 I was shocked. 1008 00:54:27,075 --> 00:54:30,241 It was more of, you know, 1009 00:54:30,283 --> 00:54:35,283 taking on the institution, taking on the system, 1010 00:54:35,325 --> 00:54:38,741 which was all part of the Studio 54 mystique. 1011 00:54:38,783 --> 00:54:40,700 And I think everybody rallied around, 1012 00:54:40,741 --> 00:54:42,450 and there was a party after that. 1013 00:54:44,533 --> 00:54:47,075 The notoriety was like a moth to a flame. 1014 00:54:47,116 --> 00:54:49,116 And everybody came, and it got even bigger. 1015 00:54:50,741 --> 00:54:53,866 Which controversy, uh, sometimes does. 1016 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:10,908 A lot of people say, 1017 00:55:10,950 --> 00:55:12,991 "Well, Rubell was shooting off his mouth 1018 00:55:13,033 --> 00:55:15,241 about don't tell the IRS this 1019 00:55:15,283 --> 00:55:16,866 and don't tell the IRS that." 1020 00:55:16,908 --> 00:55:18,366 That was not it. 1021 00:55:18,408 --> 00:55:20,158 This case came about 1022 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:24,158 strictly because, uh, an informant, who was 1023 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:28,450 very unhappy with his treatment at Studio 54... 1024 00:55:30,116 --> 00:55:33,241 and knew where the records were kept. 1025 00:55:33,283 --> 00:55:36,700 The basement had a drop ceiling. 1026 00:55:36,741 --> 00:55:38,618 And if you remove the ceiling tiles, 1027 00:55:38,660 --> 00:55:40,700 that's where we found the manila envelopes 1028 00:55:40,741 --> 00:55:43,200 that were, in effect, the second set of books. 1029 00:55:43,241 --> 00:55:45,825 Also, up there in garbage bags... 1030 00:55:45,866 --> 00:55:47,950 plastic garbage bags... there was cash. 1031 00:55:47,991 --> 00:55:50,366 Absolutely never any millions of dollars 1032 00:55:50,408 --> 00:55:52,618 in the ceiling of Studio 54. 1033 00:55:52,660 --> 00:55:55,660 That's, uh, just folklore. 1034 00:55:55,700 --> 00:55:59,241 They took down bags of cash, 1035 00:55:59,283 --> 00:56:01,991 which had been particularly described in the search warrant. 1036 00:56:02,033 --> 00:56:04,116 It was, like, five combinations, and you had to... 1037 00:56:04,158 --> 00:56:06,200 It's like, "Oh, man, this is a pain in the neck. 1038 00:56:06,241 --> 00:56:07,908 The guys are all dying for quarters, 1039 00:56:07,950 --> 00:56:09,217 so I'll keep the quarters up top." 1040 00:56:09,241 --> 00:56:10,991 That's as simple as it was. 1041 00:56:11,033 --> 00:56:13,825 That was the "money in the ceiling" story. 1042 00:56:22,491 --> 00:56:24,825 There was also cash 1043 00:56:24,866 --> 00:56:27,283 in a safe-deposit box that belonged to Steve Rubell 1044 00:56:27,325 --> 00:56:28,825 that we got a warrant for. 1045 00:56:28,866 --> 00:56:30,783 We drilled the box. We got cash out of there. 1046 00:56:30,825 --> 00:56:34,491 There was also cash in his apartment. 1047 00:56:34,533 --> 00:56:37,200 There were secret doors behind bookcases. 1048 00:56:37,241 --> 00:56:42,825 Steve had 900,000 in cash, 5s and 10s, stacked. 1049 00:56:42,866 --> 00:56:45,533 The Feds came, took all of that. 1050 00:56:45,576 --> 00:56:47,158 I was driving around 1051 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,200 with $400,000 in the trunk of my car. 1052 00:56:50,241 --> 00:56:53,741 It could've been stolen. It could've been towed. 1053 00:56:53,783 --> 00:56:56,491 I mean, I was parking in garages. 1054 00:56:56,533 --> 00:56:58,075 It was ridiculous. 1055 00:57:02,366 --> 00:57:03,908 At Studio, 1056 00:57:03,950 --> 00:57:05,783 Steve's mother was the bookkeeper. 1057 00:57:05,825 --> 00:57:10,783 And Steve always had a budget for recreational drugs. 1058 00:57:10,825 --> 00:57:14,741 He would give them for free to certain people. 1059 00:57:14,783 --> 00:57:17,075 Steve's mother didn't know anything about the drugs 1060 00:57:17,116 --> 00:57:18,533 and what the codes were, 1061 00:57:18,576 --> 00:57:21,700 but she knew where every penny was going. 1062 00:57:21,741 --> 00:57:24,075 If there was $100 taken out 1063 00:57:24,116 --> 00:57:26,783 to get a celebrity a drug or whatever, 1064 00:57:26,825 --> 00:57:28,660 it was recorded as a "party favor." 1065 00:57:28,700 --> 00:57:30,325 So it had everything in there. 1066 00:57:32,576 --> 00:57:34,408 There was one envelope. 1067 00:57:34,450 --> 00:57:37,700 On the outside of the envelope were three columns: 1068 00:57:37,741 --> 00:57:39,950 "Ian," "Steve" and "Jack." 1069 00:57:39,991 --> 00:57:42,741 And then there was a fourth column, 1070 00:57:42,783 --> 00:57:46,576 which was the total amount of the take for that night. 1071 00:57:46,618 --> 00:57:48,325 And then there was a fifth column 1072 00:57:48,366 --> 00:57:49,741 that was labeled "skim," 1073 00:57:49,783 --> 00:57:52,908 "S-K-I-M," or "SK." 1074 00:57:52,950 --> 00:57:56,116 So that you had a daily record 1075 00:57:56,158 --> 00:57:59,075 of everything that they took in 1076 00:57:59,116 --> 00:58:02,200 and what they took out as skim and didn't report. 1077 00:58:02,241 --> 00:58:04,533 Who created those books? 1078 00:58:08,283 --> 00:58:12,283 I didn't, uh, 'cause I wasn't the bookkeeper 1079 00:58:12,325 --> 00:58:14,618 or taking care of the books. 1080 00:58:14,660 --> 00:58:17,533 But one of us did. I... I... 1081 00:58:17,576 --> 00:58:21,908 Who instructed that those books be created? 1082 00:58:21,950 --> 00:58:25,200 You know, I... I... I don't remember... 1083 00:58:27,283 --> 00:58:29,408 You sure you're not a prosecutor here? 1084 00:58:29,450 --> 00:58:31,660 I, um... 1085 00:58:31,700 --> 00:58:35,283 You know, all I know was that I got the benefit of it, 1086 00:58:35,325 --> 00:58:39,200 and I was a co-conspirator, 1087 00:58:39,241 --> 00:58:42,618 and, you know... 1088 00:58:42,660 --> 00:58:45,450 But, you know, the actual, you know, workings and all... 1089 00:58:45,491 --> 00:58:47,241 I don't... I don't know who did it. 1090 00:58:52,325 --> 00:58:54,783 In the 33 months that they were doing it, 1091 00:58:54,825 --> 00:58:56,741 I think there was skim of two and half 1092 00:58:56,783 --> 00:58:58,450 or three million dollars... 1093 00:58:58,491 --> 00:59:00,325 an astronomical amount to skim, 1094 00:59:00,366 --> 00:59:02,991 which was ridiculous. 1095 00:59:03,033 --> 00:59:06,783 I mean, if you're gonna skim, you know, skim 10% or twent... 1096 00:59:06,825 --> 00:59:08,533 You know, not 80%. 1097 00:59:08,576 --> 00:59:12,158 They were really, you know, pigs about it. 1098 00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,533 Well, this was the Richard Nixon of skims. 1099 00:59:14,576 --> 00:59:18,116 We just went way over and way beyond, you know, 1100 00:59:18,158 --> 00:59:23,033 anything that was even remotely possible to go unnoticed. 1101 00:59:24,741 --> 00:59:27,908 Steve Rubell and Ian Schrager 1102 00:59:27,950 --> 00:59:30,491 are totally and completely innocent 1103 00:59:30,533 --> 00:59:33,366 of this claim for additional taxes 1104 00:59:33,408 --> 00:59:37,158 or any kind of evasion of taxes. 1105 00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:40,075 Cohn charges there was only one partner to blame 1106 00:59:40,116 --> 00:59:41,825 for the troubles of Studio 54... 1107 00:59:41,866 --> 00:59:43,176 that's the man who keeps the books. 1108 00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:44,366 His name is Jack Dushey. 1109 00:59:44,408 --> 00:59:45,908 He secretly pleaded guilty 1110 00:59:45,950 --> 00:59:47,200 to charges last week, 1111 00:59:47,241 --> 00:59:48,450 and he now faces 1112 00:59:48,491 --> 00:59:50,660 up to five years in prison. 1113 00:59:50,700 --> 00:59:55,158 Jack Dushey agreed to cooperate and to testify 1114 00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,366 against Rubell and Schrager in the grand jury 1115 00:59:58,408 --> 01:00:02,825 and at the trial, if one was necessary. 1116 01:00:05,033 --> 01:00:08,533 What happened wasn't his fault. 1117 01:00:08,576 --> 01:00:11,450 He had a whole family. He would've never done it. 1118 01:00:13,450 --> 01:00:15,660 - I never asked him that. - No. 1119 01:00:15,700 --> 01:00:18,660 But that's what I've, uh, always felt. 1120 01:00:20,576 --> 01:00:22,200 Were you... Jack, were you resentful... 1121 01:00:22,241 --> 01:00:23,576 It was very difficult 1122 01:00:23,618 --> 01:00:27,700 to put reins on the success, you know? 1123 01:00:27,741 --> 01:00:30,533 Who am I? First of all, I was older than them. 1124 01:00:30,576 --> 01:00:33,325 And, you know, I didn't need the money. 1125 01:00:33,366 --> 01:00:37,033 I wasn't doing it for the money. But, uh, 1126 01:00:37,075 --> 01:00:39,741 this was an overwhelming success, 1127 01:00:39,783 --> 01:00:44,741 so I wasn't about to try to harness them. 1128 01:00:44,783 --> 01:00:48,491 And, you know, you know, we all paid the price. 1129 01:00:51,241 --> 01:00:53,033 I mean, but did you know 1130 01:00:53,075 --> 01:00:56,366 what was going on in the counting house? 1131 01:00:56,408 --> 01:00:59,075 Oh, I was right in the middle of it. 1132 01:00:59,116 --> 01:01:01,366 Yeah, I was right in the middle of it. 1133 01:01:03,325 --> 01:01:07,991 I was just as culpable as, you know, Steve and Ian. 1134 01:01:09,576 --> 01:01:11,741 But you seem so level-headed. 1135 01:01:11,783 --> 01:01:14,618 Why do you think you let that happen? 1136 01:01:14,660 --> 01:01:16,491 Oh, the success. 1137 01:01:16,533 --> 01:01:18,618 - The success went to everybody's head. - Yeah. 1138 01:01:24,660 --> 01:01:27,116 I was assigned 1139 01:01:27,158 --> 01:01:30,241 to the Organized Crime Strike Force, 1140 01:01:30,283 --> 01:01:33,283 which deals mostly with organized crime. 1141 01:01:33,325 --> 01:01:36,825 In particular, at that time, the Italian Mafia. 1142 01:01:36,866 --> 01:01:38,950 The Studio 54 case... 1143 01:01:38,991 --> 01:01:41,991 there was a supposed connection 1144 01:01:42,033 --> 01:01:45,283 to organized crime through Ian Schrager, 1145 01:01:45,325 --> 01:01:49,325 whose father was Louis Schrager, 1146 01:01:49,366 --> 01:01:53,450 also colloquially known as Max the Jew. 1147 01:01:55,533 --> 01:01:58,491 I've always heard all these things 1148 01:01:58,533 --> 01:02:00,908 about my father in the newspapers, 1149 01:02:00,950 --> 01:02:03,866 and I didn't really know anything about it. 1150 01:02:03,908 --> 01:02:05,660 I idolized my father. 1151 01:02:05,700 --> 01:02:08,991 I knew he was different than other fathers, 1152 01:02:09,033 --> 01:02:11,283 you know, with his hours of work, 1153 01:02:11,325 --> 01:02:12,783 and I was always concerned 1154 01:02:12,825 --> 01:02:15,241 that that would be a problem for me. 1155 01:02:15,283 --> 01:02:18,116 I was always very sensitive to that. 1156 01:02:18,158 --> 01:02:21,491 Louis Schrager, who had died at the time, 1157 01:02:21,533 --> 01:02:24,408 was an old Meyer Lansky associate. 1158 01:02:26,576 --> 01:02:28,991 But we never found any evidence 1159 01:02:29,033 --> 01:02:33,116 that Studio 54 had a Mafia link. 1160 01:02:33,158 --> 01:02:35,116 I definitely think that Ian 1161 01:02:35,158 --> 01:02:37,950 didn't want any part of his father's business 1162 01:02:37,991 --> 01:02:39,991 or connections or anything. 1163 01:02:40,033 --> 01:02:42,825 I mean, his father was successful at what he did. 1164 01:02:42,866 --> 01:02:44,991 His father had power. 1165 01:02:45,033 --> 01:02:47,783 And I think that Ian wanted power 1166 01:02:47,825 --> 01:02:51,325 and success in a different area. 1167 01:02:54,700 --> 01:02:57,576 The three owners and the manager of the Studio 54 disco 1168 01:02:57,618 --> 01:03:00,075 were indicted today on charges of income tax evasion. 1169 01:03:00,116 --> 01:03:01,491 Steve Rubell and Ian Schrager 1170 01:03:01,533 --> 01:03:03,450 were slapped with a 12-count indictment... 1171 01:03:03,491 --> 01:03:05,325 Now Ian Schrager and Steve Rubell 1172 01:03:05,366 --> 01:03:07,283 face up to ten years in prison 1173 01:03:07,325 --> 01:03:09,618 and fines up to $20,000. 1174 01:03:11,950 --> 01:03:15,200 They had this ball of fire 1175 01:03:15,241 --> 01:03:18,576 that nobody in the world had. 1176 01:03:18,618 --> 01:03:20,158 They had this... this thing 1177 01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,741 that was worldwide popular 1178 01:03:22,783 --> 01:03:24,991 that had fallen into their laps, 1179 01:03:25,033 --> 01:03:27,075 and I don't think they wanted to lose that. 1180 01:03:30,075 --> 01:03:31,660 During one of the meetings, 1181 01:03:31,700 --> 01:03:33,660 the lawyers kept saying, "Well, you know, 1182 01:03:33,700 --> 01:03:35,741 you have to try and trade something." 1183 01:03:36,991 --> 01:03:38,825 It was August 25th. 1184 01:03:38,866 --> 01:03:40,908 I remember Steve telling me, 1185 01:03:40,950 --> 01:03:42,825 "I hope there's a war in Iran." 1186 01:03:42,866 --> 01:03:45,176 I said, "What are you talking about?" He said, "I just don't... 1187 01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:46,825 "There's a story that's gonna break, 1188 01:03:46,866 --> 01:03:48,700 and I just don't want it to be big." 1189 01:03:48,741 --> 01:03:50,325 The Justice Department 1190 01:03:50,366 --> 01:03:52,700 is investigating an allegation 1191 01:03:52,741 --> 01:03:56,241 that White House Chief of Staff Hamilton Jordan used cocaine 1192 01:03:56,283 --> 01:03:59,660 during a visit to New York's Studio 54 discotheque last year. 1193 01:03:59,700 --> 01:04:02,533 The White House flatly denies the allegations, 1194 01:04:02,576 --> 01:04:04,991 saying the people making them have a clear interest 1195 01:04:05,033 --> 01:04:07,325 in making false and sensational charges 1196 01:04:07,366 --> 01:04:09,908 so they can bargain for lighter sentences. 1197 01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,908 To accuse the White House Chief of Staff 1198 01:04:15,950 --> 01:04:17,450 of asking to buy cocaine 1199 01:04:17,491 --> 01:04:19,741 in the basement of Studio 54... 1200 01:04:19,783 --> 01:04:21,366 I mean, didn't Steve realize 1201 01:04:21,408 --> 01:04:24,116 he now is gonna have the White House against him? 1202 01:04:24,158 --> 01:04:27,991 I thought Steve better be really careful. 1203 01:04:28,033 --> 01:04:30,825 These people are powerful. He doesn't have any power. 1204 01:04:30,866 --> 01:04:33,950 He's a nightlife person. His power is among celebrities, 1205 01:04:33,991 --> 01:04:36,283 it's not among the politicos. 1206 01:04:36,325 --> 01:04:40,200 He definitely messed with the wrong people. 1207 01:04:40,241 --> 01:04:42,576 President Carter's comment about Jordan was 1208 01:04:42,618 --> 01:04:43,908 "He will tell the truth, 1209 01:04:43,950 --> 01:04:45,741 as my wife would or my children." 1210 01:04:45,783 --> 01:04:47,660 While the Justice Department 1211 01:04:47,700 --> 01:04:49,491 would not ordinarily pursue a case 1212 01:04:49,533 --> 01:04:51,491 involving individual use of the drug, 1213 01:04:51,533 --> 01:04:53,491 it's compelled to do so on this case 1214 01:04:53,533 --> 01:04:56,283 because of a new law called the Ethics in Government Act. 1215 01:04:56,325 --> 01:04:59,116 That law grew out of the Watergate scandals. 1216 01:04:59,158 --> 01:05:02,825 It requires an investigation of up to 90 days by the FBI 1217 01:05:02,866 --> 01:05:04,450 when criminal allegations are made 1218 01:05:04,491 --> 01:05:06,660 against high-ranking government officials. 1219 01:05:06,700 --> 01:05:08,741 One of the lawyers, Mitchell Rogovin, 1220 01:05:08,783 --> 01:05:10,908 made a really fatal mistake 1221 01:05:10,950 --> 01:05:12,950 and hurt us. 1222 01:05:12,991 --> 01:05:15,491 He didn't understand 1223 01:05:15,533 --> 01:05:18,366 how Watergate changed the law. 1224 01:05:18,408 --> 01:05:20,450 It became very public. 1225 01:05:20,491 --> 01:05:24,408 The train left the station and took a life of its own. 1226 01:05:24,450 --> 01:05:26,200 There was no turning back. 1227 01:05:26,241 --> 01:05:27,866 You saw, with your own eyes, 1228 01:05:27,908 --> 01:05:29,450 Hamilton Jordan use cocaine? 1229 01:05:29,491 --> 01:05:30,533 Yes. 1230 01:05:30,576 --> 01:05:31,700 - No question? - No question. 1231 01:05:31,741 --> 01:05:33,158 - No mistake? - No. 1232 01:05:35,991 --> 01:05:37,450 We didn't realize the magnitude 1233 01:05:37,491 --> 01:05:39,200 of what was going on. 1234 01:05:39,241 --> 01:05:40,342 We had this thing of, you know, 1235 01:05:40,366 --> 01:05:41,741 "We'll get out of it. 1236 01:05:41,783 --> 01:05:43,783 "You know, we got Roy there, but, you know, 1237 01:05:43,825 --> 01:05:46,991 we'll figure out a way and get a way out of it." 1238 01:05:47,033 --> 01:05:52,533 We even went and did a major renovation in the club, 1239 01:05:52,576 --> 01:05:55,450 like a signal to everyone... it's gonna be fine. 1240 01:05:58,408 --> 01:06:00,158 What do you do 1241 01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:01,920 when you're under indictment for tax evasion 1242 01:06:01,950 --> 01:06:03,950 and fighting Hamilton Jordan in your spare time? 1243 01:06:03,991 --> 01:06:05,408 Well, you can create a new image... 1244 01:06:05,450 --> 01:06:07,158 architecturally, at least. 1245 01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,200 600 workers on round-the-clock shifts 1246 01:06:09,241 --> 01:06:10,926 have been laboring since last Wednesday to put it all together, 1247 01:06:10,950 --> 01:06:12,533 and when they're finished, 1248 01:06:12,576 --> 01:06:15,325 it's expected to cost $1 1/2 million... 1249 01:06:15,366 --> 01:06:16,783 three times what it cost 1250 01:06:16,825 --> 01:06:18,366 to open Studio 54 three years ago. 1251 01:06:18,408 --> 01:06:20,618 ♪ More, more, more ♪ 1252 01:06:20,660 --> 01:06:23,075 ♪ How do you like it, how do you like it? ♪ 1253 01:06:23,116 --> 01:06:25,200 ♪ More, more, more ♪ 1254 01:06:25,241 --> 01:06:27,741 ♪ How do you like it, how do you like it? ♪ 1255 01:06:27,783 --> 01:06:30,283 Ian had all these magical ideas. 1256 01:06:30,325 --> 01:06:31,991 He'd seen Sweeney Todd, 1257 01:06:32,033 --> 01:06:34,283 and he got this idea to do a bridge. 1258 01:06:34,325 --> 01:06:35,950 Tired of fighting your way 1259 01:06:35,991 --> 01:06:37,576 through the crowded dance floor? 1260 01:06:37,618 --> 01:06:38,950 Well, this moving bridge 1261 01:06:38,991 --> 01:06:40,467 ought to be able to solve that problem. 1262 01:06:40,491 --> 01:06:42,408 It can carry 25 tons in weight 1263 01:06:42,450 --> 01:06:44,660 and will be able to move 250 people 1264 01:06:44,700 --> 01:06:46,033 over the heads of the dancers 1265 01:06:46,075 --> 01:06:47,366 to the other side of the room 1266 01:06:47,408 --> 01:06:48,783 or to the balcony 1267 01:06:48,825 --> 01:06:51,533 at the speed of 45 feet a minute. 1268 01:06:51,576 --> 01:06:53,158 Of course, the story goes 1269 01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:54,866 that they had to cover the balcony 1270 01:06:54,908 --> 01:06:58,116 in rubber so they could wash it down more easily. 1271 01:06:58,158 --> 01:07:00,950 Were you aware that you were creating a sex pit? 1272 01:07:00,991 --> 01:07:02,950 ♪ ...how I really feel? ♪ 1273 01:07:02,991 --> 01:07:04,259 ♪ Just get the cameras rolling... ♪ 1274 01:07:04,283 --> 01:07:05,408 Yes. 1275 01:07:07,991 --> 01:07:10,116 ♪ More, more, more ♪ 1276 01:07:10,158 --> 01:07:12,660 ♪ How do you like it, how do you like it? ♪ 1277 01:07:12,700 --> 01:07:14,700 ♪ More, more, more ♪ 1278 01:07:14,741 --> 01:07:16,783 ♪ How do you like it, how do you like it? ♪ 1279 01:07:16,825 --> 01:07:19,866 I love Studio 54 so much, and I thank you 1280 01:07:19,908 --> 01:07:22,325 for making all my evenings a lot more fun. 1281 01:07:22,366 --> 01:07:24,158 Ah, what can I say? 1282 01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:25,618 Oh, just say "thank you." 1283 01:07:25,660 --> 01:07:27,618 Plead guilty to charges of flattery. 1284 01:07:27,660 --> 01:07:30,241 I don't plead guilty to any charges. 1285 01:07:32,491 --> 01:07:33,991 Two owners 1286 01:07:34,033 --> 01:07:36,991 of the trendy Manhattan discotheque Studio 54 1287 01:07:37,033 --> 01:07:39,158 pleaded guilty today of defrauding the government 1288 01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:42,033 of more than $400,000 in taxes. 1289 01:07:42,075 --> 01:07:44,783 Today, Rubell and his partner Ian Schrager 1290 01:07:44,825 --> 01:07:47,200 were charged with skimming $2 1/2 million 1291 01:07:47,241 --> 01:07:48,950 from the receipts of Studio 54 1292 01:07:48,991 --> 01:07:50,366 and lying about it. 1293 01:07:50,408 --> 01:07:52,033 12 counts in all. 1294 01:07:52,075 --> 01:07:54,408 They admitted to two counts of tax evasion. 1295 01:07:54,450 --> 01:07:57,158 The government dropped the rest. 1296 01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:59,783 We didn't want to plead guilty to a felony 1297 01:07:59,825 --> 01:08:02,033 because you can't have a liquor license 1298 01:08:02,075 --> 01:08:03,991 if you're convicted of a felony. 1299 01:08:04,033 --> 01:08:06,450 So this whole thing was to protect Studio, 1300 01:08:06,491 --> 01:08:09,408 but it just got out of control. 1301 01:08:09,450 --> 01:08:11,116 We were out of our league, 1302 01:08:11,158 --> 01:08:13,991 and we were forced to plea to a felony. 1303 01:08:14,033 --> 01:08:16,991 Come on down a little bit. 1304 01:08:17,033 --> 01:08:18,825 Well, Roy, did anything go wrong 1305 01:08:18,866 --> 01:08:21,283 with the plea bargaining? 1306 01:08:21,325 --> 01:08:24,366 Listen, when you have about 37 lawyers 1307 01:08:24,408 --> 01:08:25,991 involved in anything, 1308 01:08:26,033 --> 01:08:29,618 uh, something's always gonna go wrong. 1309 01:08:29,660 --> 01:08:31,576 - Steven... - What made you do it? 1310 01:08:31,618 --> 01:08:33,325 Was it greed? 1311 01:08:33,366 --> 01:08:35,075 - Too much money too fast? - No. 1312 01:08:35,116 --> 01:08:36,801 I made a mistake. Did you ever make a mistake? 1313 01:08:36,825 --> 01:08:38,408 Why did you make that kind of mistake? 1314 01:08:38,450 --> 01:08:40,259 Are you and Schrager still friendly after this? 1315 01:08:40,283 --> 01:08:43,491 He's my best friend. I love him dearly. 1316 01:08:46,991 --> 01:08:48,450 When we got in trouble, 1317 01:08:48,491 --> 01:08:49,741 the press, 1318 01:08:49,783 --> 01:08:51,408 you know, turned on us. 1319 01:08:52,991 --> 01:08:54,700 It was the first time, 1320 01:08:54,741 --> 01:08:56,301 you know, in my life and in Steve's life, 1321 01:08:56,325 --> 01:08:58,033 we couldn't talk our way out of it. 1322 01:08:58,075 --> 01:08:59,576 It was like we couldn't shake it. 1323 01:09:01,576 --> 01:09:04,158 Things seemed to be closing in on us. 1324 01:09:06,533 --> 01:09:08,241 When you go through something like that, 1325 01:09:08,283 --> 01:09:12,700 uh, it either makes you closer and stronger, 1326 01:09:12,741 --> 01:09:14,700 or it tears you apart. 1327 01:09:14,741 --> 01:09:17,116 In our case, it made us stronger. 1328 01:09:19,408 --> 01:09:22,033 We rose and fell together. 1329 01:09:25,991 --> 01:09:27,533 A federal judge today 1330 01:09:27,576 --> 01:09:29,991 sentenced Steven Rubell and Ian Schrager, 1331 01:09:30,033 --> 01:09:33,075 owners of the New York discotheque Studio 54, 1332 01:09:33,116 --> 01:09:35,075 to three and a half years in prison 1333 01:09:35,116 --> 01:09:37,908 for evading almost half a million dollars in income taxes. 1334 01:09:37,950 --> 01:09:42,200 He also fined each man $20,000. 1335 01:09:42,241 --> 01:09:45,741 It didn't hit me. You know? 1336 01:09:45,783 --> 01:09:50,158 There was a complete emotional detachment. 1337 01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:52,576 I was numb. 1338 01:09:52,618 --> 01:09:54,741 Our life was over, 1339 01:09:54,783 --> 01:09:56,200 and we didn't even know. 1340 01:10:03,158 --> 01:10:06,408 The party, the night before they went to jail, 1341 01:10:06,450 --> 01:10:09,908 was probably as exciting 1342 01:10:09,950 --> 01:10:12,618 and as much fun as the opening party, 1343 01:10:12,660 --> 01:10:15,533 It may have been more fun. 1344 01:10:18,908 --> 01:10:20,866 Andy Warhol as there, 1345 01:10:20,908 --> 01:10:22,491 Calvin Klein. 1346 01:10:22,533 --> 01:10:24,325 Diana Ross sang. 1347 01:10:24,366 --> 01:10:26,408 Liza Minnelli sang, too. 1348 01:10:29,866 --> 01:10:32,618 What I distinctly remember, Steve was wearing, like, 1349 01:10:32,660 --> 01:10:34,700 a Frank Sinatra hat, 1350 01:10:34,741 --> 01:10:36,783 and they played "I Did it My Way." 1351 01:10:36,825 --> 01:10:38,408 "My Way"... 1352 01:10:38,450 --> 01:10:40,660 What does that mean, "my way"? 1353 01:10:40,700 --> 01:10:44,618 When I look back at it now, it is so preposterous. 1354 01:10:44,660 --> 01:10:48,700 -What were we thinking? ♪ Don't leave me this way ♪ 1355 01:10:48,741 --> 01:10:50,576 ♪ Ahh ♪ 1356 01:10:50,618 --> 01:10:52,491 ♪ Baby ♪ 1357 01:10:52,533 --> 01:10:56,533 ♪ My heart is full of love and desire for you ♪ 1358 01:10:56,576 --> 01:11:00,158 ♪ Now come on down and do what you gotta do ♪ 1359 01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:04,033 That night, the music was still intense, 1360 01:11:04,075 --> 01:11:06,158 the dancing was still intense, 1361 01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:08,576 and it was fabulous. 1362 01:11:08,618 --> 01:11:10,491 ♪ Come on, satisfy the need in me ♪ 1363 01:11:10,533 --> 01:11:12,491 Partying that night, I remember 1364 01:11:12,533 --> 01:11:14,033 all I wanted to do was dance. 1365 01:11:14,075 --> 01:11:15,950 And I was so high on drugs, 1366 01:11:15,991 --> 01:11:18,660 I really didn't realize what was going on. 1367 01:11:18,700 --> 01:11:21,241 I mean, I didn't think the party was gonna end. 1368 01:11:21,283 --> 01:11:23,741 ♪ Ohh, baby ♪ 1369 01:11:23,783 --> 01:11:25,408 That feeling of invincibility 1370 01:11:25,450 --> 01:11:27,408 permeated the whole process. 1371 01:11:27,450 --> 01:11:29,866 ♪ Don't leave me this way ♪ 1372 01:11:29,908 --> 01:11:31,660 ♪ Don't leave me this way, no ♪ 1373 01:11:31,700 --> 01:11:33,618 ♪ Don't leave me this way, no ♪ 1374 01:11:33,660 --> 01:11:35,491 ♪ Don't leave me this way, baby ♪ 1375 01:11:35,533 --> 01:11:37,366 ♪ Don't leave me ♪ 1376 01:11:37,408 --> 01:11:39,366 ♪ Don't leave me this way, baby ♪ 1377 01:11:39,408 --> 01:11:41,366 It was enormous denial, 1378 01:11:41,408 --> 01:11:42,825 you know, from beginning to end. 1379 01:11:44,908 --> 01:11:46,660 I'm not sure I would've made a party 1380 01:11:46,700 --> 01:11:50,283 to celebrate the fact I'm going to jail the next day. 1381 01:11:50,325 --> 01:11:52,783 I don't think they prepared at all, 1382 01:11:52,825 --> 01:11:55,618 and I think it was the actual going to jail 1383 01:11:55,660 --> 01:11:58,908 was just a terrific shock for them. 1384 01:11:58,950 --> 01:12:00,783 Stand right there. Thank you. 1385 01:12:00,825 --> 01:12:02,075 The owners of New York's 1386 01:12:02,116 --> 01:12:03,991 flashy discotheque Studio 54 1387 01:12:04,033 --> 01:12:06,116 surrendered to federal authorities today. 1388 01:12:06,158 --> 01:12:07,908 They reported this morning 1389 01:12:07,950 --> 01:12:10,200 at the Federal Metropolitan Correctional Center. 1390 01:12:10,241 --> 01:12:11,950 Meanwhile, the State Liquor Authority 1391 01:12:11,991 --> 01:12:14,283 has filed seven charges against the disco. 1392 01:12:24,866 --> 01:12:27,033 What was that first night like 1393 01:12:27,075 --> 01:12:28,866 at the Metropolitan House of Corrections 1394 01:12:28,908 --> 01:12:30,283 here in New York City? 1395 01:12:30,325 --> 01:12:33,033 Well, uh, the doors closed, 1396 01:12:33,075 --> 01:12:35,200 and when those doors close, 1397 01:12:35,241 --> 01:12:37,283 it's amazing how quickly 1398 01:12:37,325 --> 01:12:42,241 you, um, just realize you lost your freedom. 1399 01:12:42,283 --> 01:12:44,700 There's nothing worse in the world. 1400 01:12:44,741 --> 01:12:46,075 We didn't share a cell. 1401 01:12:46,116 --> 01:12:48,283 We were in the same jail. 1402 01:12:48,325 --> 01:12:51,700 And that's something that we both wanted, obviously. 1403 01:12:51,741 --> 01:12:54,408 We couldn't guarantee that. 1404 01:12:54,450 --> 01:12:57,009 I don't know what it would've been if I didn't have the benefit of having Steve there. 1405 01:12:57,033 --> 01:12:59,700 We were treated just like everybody else, not unfairly. 1406 01:12:59,741 --> 01:13:01,636 - They didn't care that you were with Liza... - No. 1407 01:13:01,660 --> 01:13:04,051 - ...and Bianca and all those stars? - Oh, that's another world. 1408 01:13:04,075 --> 01:13:05,866 It's how it is. You just have to learn 1409 01:13:05,908 --> 01:13:08,116 to keep your mouth shut and not say a world. 1410 01:13:08,158 --> 01:13:11,450 If you say a word, you're, uh... you're dead. 1411 01:13:11,491 --> 01:13:16,825 There was a guy that lived across the hall from me 1412 01:13:16,866 --> 01:13:20,866 and who had killed somebody with a bowling ball. 1413 01:13:20,908 --> 01:13:22,908 Um, and so I right away thought 1414 01:13:22,950 --> 01:13:25,366 that was a good guy to get friendly with. 1415 01:13:25,408 --> 01:13:27,533 I made a deal with him 1416 01:13:27,576 --> 01:13:31,200 that we would give his wife money on the outside 1417 01:13:31,241 --> 01:13:33,116 and he would protect us. 1418 01:13:35,158 --> 01:13:37,991 You know, it was just a base instinct 1419 01:13:38,033 --> 01:13:40,116 to survive in... in there. 1420 01:13:44,408 --> 01:13:46,241 After they went to jail, 1421 01:13:46,283 --> 01:13:47,741 we had another couple of months. 1422 01:13:47,783 --> 01:13:49,467 But it was never the same after, you know... 1423 01:13:49,491 --> 01:13:51,116 without Steve and Ian. 1424 01:13:51,158 --> 01:13:52,991 And then, when we lost the liquor license, 1425 01:13:53,033 --> 01:13:55,825 there wasn't much we could do. 1426 01:13:55,866 --> 01:13:58,241 It was in prison 1427 01:13:58,283 --> 01:14:01,533 that, uh, you know, we sold Studio 54. 1428 01:14:01,576 --> 01:14:05,741 And I was negotiating the contract, 1429 01:14:05,783 --> 01:14:08,116 and that kept my sanity. 1430 01:14:09,700 --> 01:14:12,200 But selling Studio 1431 01:14:12,241 --> 01:14:14,618 was the hardest thing I ever had to do. 1432 01:14:48,366 --> 01:14:49,825 The whole thing, 1433 01:14:49,866 --> 01:14:52,158 it was like a vortex of, you know... 1434 01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:55,283 It was all just going down the tubes, 1435 01:14:55,325 --> 01:14:57,325 and everybody just faded back 1436 01:14:57,366 --> 01:14:58,825 to where they came from. 1437 01:15:00,741 --> 01:15:02,783 You really feel like all these people 1438 01:15:02,825 --> 01:15:04,660 are really gonna be your friends for life. 1439 01:15:04,700 --> 01:15:07,200 They love you. And then you really find out, 1440 01:15:07,241 --> 01:15:08,509 well, that's really not the case 1441 01:15:08,533 --> 01:15:09,660 at all, you know? 1442 01:15:09,700 --> 01:15:10,908 The phone calls stop coming. 1443 01:15:10,950 --> 01:15:12,408 The, you know, the, uh, 1444 01:15:12,450 --> 01:15:15,408 the invitations to great parties stop coming. 1445 01:15:15,450 --> 01:15:17,866 All those things just stop, and that was, uh, 1446 01:15:17,908 --> 01:15:21,366 that was, uh, that was a rude awakening for me. 1447 01:15:24,408 --> 01:15:26,408 The disco era was over. 1448 01:15:28,241 --> 01:15:29,741 Disco music became a joke. 1449 01:15:32,283 --> 01:15:35,408 It was billed as Teen Night at Comiskey Park. 1450 01:15:35,450 --> 01:15:38,618 The feature attraction was a disc demolition between games. 1451 01:15:38,660 --> 01:15:40,783 Local radio morning man Steve Dahl 1452 01:15:40,825 --> 01:15:42,283 is to lead the crowd in song, 1453 01:15:42,325 --> 01:15:43,866 and then finish by blowing up a box 1454 01:15:43,908 --> 01:15:45,241 full of disco records 1455 01:15:45,283 --> 01:15:46,759 which the fans were to bring with them 1456 01:15:46,783 --> 01:15:48,325 to the ballpark. 1457 01:15:52,158 --> 01:15:54,660 "Disco Sucks" was almost a backlash 1458 01:15:54,700 --> 01:15:56,491 against Studio 54, in a way. 1459 01:15:56,533 --> 01:16:01,241 You think about the economic situation in America. 1460 01:16:01,283 --> 01:16:04,075 It was the worst financial recession 1461 01:16:04,116 --> 01:16:06,116 since the Great Depression. 1462 01:16:06,158 --> 01:16:08,366 And you think about what Studio 54 1463 01:16:08,408 --> 01:16:10,491 and what disco life looked like 1464 01:16:10,533 --> 01:16:13,075 to somebody working in the Midwest 1465 01:16:13,116 --> 01:16:16,200 who had now lost their job and is never coming back. 1466 01:16:16,241 --> 01:16:18,576 You know, you blame it on all these people. 1467 01:16:18,618 --> 01:16:20,241 You blame it on gay people, 1468 01:16:20,283 --> 01:16:22,323 you blame it on black people, you blame it on women. 1469 01:16:24,116 --> 01:16:28,991 There was this ground-swelling resentment. 1470 01:16:29,033 --> 01:16:30,825 People, you know, 1471 01:16:30,866 --> 01:16:32,200 were pissed off. 1472 01:16:33,576 --> 01:16:35,533 We upset the status quo. 1473 01:16:35,576 --> 01:16:37,991 We knew Rubell and Schrager could help us 1474 01:16:48,366 --> 01:16:51,450 and could give us more income tax evasion cases 1475 01:16:51,491 --> 01:16:54,116 against other people that they knew 1476 01:16:54,158 --> 01:16:55,741 who were doing the same thing. 1477 01:16:57,991 --> 01:17:02,950 So we devised the great Chinese food scenario. 1478 01:17:05,908 --> 01:17:08,783 The U.S. Attorney's office is on the border of Chinatown, 1479 01:17:08,825 --> 01:17:12,033 and the IRS agents know all the good places to eat, trust me. 1480 01:17:12,075 --> 01:17:17,408 So they ordered a slew of different Chinese dishes, 1481 01:17:17,450 --> 01:17:20,116 and I had Steve and Ian brought over, 1482 01:17:20,158 --> 01:17:23,033 and I had two chairs set out just outside my office 1483 01:17:23,075 --> 01:17:26,700 so that the smell was kind of wafting out into the hall. 1484 01:17:26,741 --> 01:17:29,491 And they're looking at it, and they're... 1485 01:17:29,533 --> 01:17:31,033 you know, they're hungry. 1486 01:17:31,075 --> 01:17:33,618 We really tried everything. 1487 01:17:38,075 --> 01:17:40,950 We were under all kinds of pressure. 1488 01:17:40,991 --> 01:17:44,200 The government had all our records. 1489 01:17:44,241 --> 01:17:47,408 It isn't as if, you know, we named names, 1490 01:17:47,450 --> 01:17:50,408 but we would've had to perjure ourselves 1491 01:17:50,450 --> 01:17:53,866 if we didn't answer questions about the nightclub owners 1492 01:17:53,908 --> 01:17:57,366 of Bonds, Infinity, 1493 01:17:57,408 --> 01:17:59,866 and New York-New York at the time. 1494 01:17:59,908 --> 01:18:01,866 They were, like, kind of our enemies. 1495 01:18:01,908 --> 01:18:04,491 You know, we, uh, 1496 01:18:04,533 --> 01:18:05,825 always suspected 1497 01:18:05,866 --> 01:18:08,660 that those guys were out to hurt us anyways, 1498 01:18:08,700 --> 01:18:12,075 so it was a kind of... 1499 01:18:12,116 --> 01:18:14,533 easy way to rationalize that, I suppose. 1500 01:18:14,576 --> 01:18:17,908 But my father wouldn't have, uh... 1501 01:18:17,950 --> 01:18:20,660 - have liked this. - Why? 1502 01:18:20,700 --> 01:18:24,618 You know, because just, that's not something you do. 1503 01:18:24,660 --> 01:18:30,116 You know, um, do your time like a man. 1504 01:18:30,158 --> 01:18:32,450 Wouldn't be something that he would, uh, 1505 01:18:32,491 --> 01:18:34,783 you know, want... want... want me to do. 1506 01:18:37,283 --> 01:18:40,283 - And did that weigh upon you? - Of course. 1507 01:18:40,325 --> 01:18:42,950 I had problems. I still have problems, 1508 01:18:42,991 --> 01:18:44,618 and I'm still embarrassed about it. 1509 01:18:44,660 --> 01:18:46,033 It's one of the things, 1510 01:18:46,075 --> 01:18:48,533 uh, I was hoping you wouldn't get into. 1511 01:18:48,576 --> 01:18:50,700 But I, you know... 1512 01:18:50,741 --> 01:18:52,075 I, um... 1513 01:18:53,950 --> 01:18:57,908 It's, uh, just part of the story, I suppose. 1514 01:19:05,491 --> 01:19:08,450 We couldn't stay in prison for three and a half years, 1515 01:19:08,491 --> 01:19:11,408 so we did what we had to do 1516 01:19:11,450 --> 01:19:12,950 and got a reduced sentence. 1517 01:19:23,241 --> 01:19:26,741 When we got out of prison in 1981, 1518 01:19:26,783 --> 01:19:28,366 it was a whole different world. 1519 01:19:52,241 --> 01:19:54,991 Governor Reagan, we just wanted to show you 1520 01:19:55,033 --> 01:19:56,825 what the map of the United States looks like 1521 01:19:56,866 --> 01:19:58,408 as of 8:00 tonight. 1522 01:19:58,450 --> 01:20:00,241 - Hey! - All yours! 1523 01:20:06,576 --> 01:20:08,991 You had a different administration in the early '80s, 1524 01:20:09,033 --> 01:20:10,866 and suddenly it was all about making money. 1525 01:20:10,908 --> 01:20:13,366 It wasn't about abandon, it wasn't about equalization, 1526 01:20:13,408 --> 01:20:17,491 it was about massive, obvious success, 1527 01:20:17,533 --> 01:20:19,325 and a dollar über alles. 1528 01:20:21,533 --> 01:20:24,116 Downtown became more downtown. 1529 01:20:24,158 --> 01:20:26,116 The Mudd Club really became dominant 1530 01:20:26,158 --> 01:20:31,325 in protest against the yuppies and the Reagan administration. 1531 01:20:35,991 --> 01:20:37,866 Getting out of jail, 1532 01:20:37,908 --> 01:20:40,533 we were both really, really, really sensitive, 1533 01:20:40,576 --> 01:20:43,491 both unsure of ourselves. 1534 01:20:43,533 --> 01:20:47,533 You know, that's a devastation that's hard to explain. 1535 01:20:47,576 --> 01:20:49,783 You lose everything. 1536 01:20:49,825 --> 01:20:52,660 You know, I lost my law license. 1537 01:20:52,700 --> 01:20:54,491 I couldn't vote. 1538 01:20:54,533 --> 01:20:58,660 Even a driver's license, your credit card... 1539 01:20:58,700 --> 01:21:00,366 So I'm disenfranchised. 1540 01:21:00,408 --> 01:21:02,408 It's... You know, you don't realize, 1541 01:21:02,450 --> 01:21:05,241 till you can't, what it means to you. 1542 01:21:05,283 --> 01:21:08,450 And the shame of it. That was the real thing. 1543 01:21:08,491 --> 01:21:10,509 One of the things, I guess, that's a little bothersome 1544 01:21:10,533 --> 01:21:12,116 is that there is no stigma 1545 01:21:12,158 --> 01:21:13,950 attached to the fact that you did jail time. 1546 01:21:13,991 --> 01:21:15,967 Oh, but there is a st... There isn't a day that goes by 1547 01:21:15,991 --> 01:21:17,325 when I don't think about it. 1548 01:21:17,366 --> 01:21:18,825 -Okay. An emotional stigma. 1549 01:21:18,866 --> 01:21:21,158 It's emotional. Until about a year ago, 1550 01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:24,618 I had dreams that I was on an island and I couldn't get off. 1551 01:21:24,660 --> 01:21:26,783 And the nightmares... I would wake up soaked. 1552 01:21:26,825 --> 01:21:29,368 And, uh, it's something you don't get over. 1553 01:21:29,530 --> 01:21:30,283 Fair enough. 1554 01:21:30,325 --> 01:21:33,576 Steve was kind of tentative, because he didn't know 1555 01:21:33,618 --> 01:21:36,408 the way people were gonna be reacting to him. 1556 01:21:36,450 --> 01:21:37,783 Just that they didn't know 1557 01:21:37,825 --> 01:21:39,366 if they could trust him 1558 01:21:39,408 --> 01:21:41,783 after the Hamilton Jordan and everything. 1559 01:21:41,825 --> 01:21:45,366 Yeah, the price of being a success, you know, uh... 1560 01:21:45,408 --> 01:21:46,783 you know, is easy. 1561 01:21:46,825 --> 01:21:48,700 Price of being a failure is difficult. 1562 01:21:48,741 --> 01:21:49,866 I went through both. 1563 01:21:49,908 --> 01:21:51,283 That was probably 1564 01:21:51,325 --> 01:21:53,033 the most difficult moment of their life, 1565 01:21:53,075 --> 01:21:55,283 wondering if they would ever emerge. 1566 01:21:55,325 --> 01:21:57,366 In a sense, they had nothing to lose early on. 1567 01:21:57,408 --> 01:21:58,825 They had nothing. 1568 01:21:58,866 --> 01:22:00,283 Everything was an improvement. 1569 01:22:00,325 --> 01:22:01,700 It was fine. 1570 01:22:01,741 --> 01:22:04,866 Coming back, that was courage. 1571 01:22:04,908 --> 01:22:07,825 Ian's not gonna give up. 1572 01:22:07,866 --> 01:22:10,033 Stevie, in his own way, isn't gonna give up. 1573 01:22:10,075 --> 01:22:12,825 They both had the same DNA 1574 01:22:12,866 --> 01:22:15,866 when they went in and when they got out. 1575 01:22:15,908 --> 01:22:17,908 They'll take on any challenge. 1576 01:22:17,950 --> 01:22:20,158 - And they did. - I mean, I believe 1577 01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:22,866 they were plotting a comeback in prison. 1578 01:22:22,908 --> 01:22:24,700 Of course. The day they got in, 1579 01:22:24,741 --> 01:22:27,051 they were thinking about what we're gonna do when we get out. 1580 01:22:27,075 --> 01:22:28,700 Despite Rubell's plans, 1581 01:22:28,741 --> 01:22:30,825 post-prison reality was harsh. 1582 01:22:30,866 --> 01:22:32,325 It took three years 1583 01:22:32,366 --> 01:22:33,991 before the two could find the capital 1584 01:22:34,033 --> 01:22:35,660 to finance their next venture. 1585 01:22:35,700 --> 01:22:37,491 A string of luxury hotels that cater 1586 01:22:37,533 --> 01:22:39,866 to the same kind of eclectic crowd 1587 01:22:39,908 --> 01:22:41,533 that used to hang out at Studio 54. 1588 01:22:41,576 --> 01:22:43,158 They immediately began 1589 01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:44,660 channeling their efforts 1590 01:22:44,700 --> 01:22:46,825 into purchasing prime Manhattan real estate, 1591 01:22:46,866 --> 01:22:49,576 becoming part owners in several chic hotels, 1592 01:22:49,618 --> 01:22:51,033 including the Royalton 1593 01:22:51,075 --> 01:22:53,283 and Morgan's Hotel on Madison Avenue. 1594 01:22:53,325 --> 01:22:56,618 We wanted to be in the hotel business. 1595 01:22:56,660 --> 01:22:58,950 But we had to prove to the banks 1596 01:22:58,991 --> 01:23:01,908 that we could borrow $14 million and pay it back. 1597 01:23:01,950 --> 01:23:03,533 So that was the reason 1598 01:23:03,576 --> 01:23:06,700 why we opened up Palladium nightclub. 1599 01:23:06,741 --> 01:23:09,033 The bald, the brave, 1600 01:23:09,075 --> 01:23:11,450 and the beautiful came out tonight 1601 01:23:11,491 --> 01:23:13,618 for the opening of the Palladium. 1602 01:23:13,660 --> 01:23:15,540 It's an incredible thing that with Steve and Ian 1603 01:23:15,576 --> 01:23:17,700 out of the picture for six or seven years, 1604 01:23:17,741 --> 01:23:18,825 really nothing's 1605 01:23:18,866 --> 01:23:20,366 come along to replace them. 1606 01:23:20,408 --> 01:23:21,783 And now they're back 1607 01:23:21,825 --> 01:23:23,408 and bigger and better than ever. 1608 01:23:23,450 --> 01:23:25,783 I had hesitations about everything I did 1609 01:23:25,825 --> 01:23:27,241 because I had made a mistake, 1610 01:23:27,283 --> 01:23:29,158 and I had not felt so great about myself 1611 01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:30,283 for a while. 1612 01:23:30,325 --> 01:23:31,783 I got a second chance, 1613 01:23:31,825 --> 01:23:33,825 and you couldn't ask for anything more. 1614 01:23:37,075 --> 01:23:39,366 When we did the Palladium, 1615 01:23:39,408 --> 01:23:42,033 this was the first press piece we got, 1616 01:23:42,075 --> 01:23:43,450 called "The Comeback Kids," 1617 01:23:43,491 --> 01:23:45,450 where I came out from the shadows. 1618 01:23:45,491 --> 01:23:50,158 The story was, uh... as much on me 1619 01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:52,200 as it was on Steve. 1620 01:23:52,241 --> 01:23:54,283 Steve was a little bit upset about it, 1621 01:23:54,325 --> 01:23:57,576 and the story disrupted that balance 1622 01:23:57,618 --> 01:24:01,741 that existed between Steve and I all those years 1623 01:24:01,783 --> 01:24:03,866 in terms of him being out there 1624 01:24:03,908 --> 01:24:06,075 getting all... all of the attention 1625 01:24:06,116 --> 01:24:09,200 and me being in the background and not getting any. 1626 01:24:09,241 --> 01:24:10,866 It was a new dynamic. 1627 01:24:10,908 --> 01:24:13,241 I remember it took him a little while 1628 01:24:13,283 --> 01:24:14,991 to... to... to get over it. 1629 01:24:19,158 --> 01:24:21,116 We should point out, for better or for worse, 1630 01:24:21,158 --> 01:24:22,576 Studio 54 is no longer. 1631 01:24:22,618 --> 01:24:24,200 Yeah. I read in the paper the other day 1632 01:24:24,241 --> 01:24:25,576 it was just closed, but... 1633 01:24:25,618 --> 01:24:28,700 - How'd you feel about that? - Um, I... 1634 01:24:28,741 --> 01:24:30,783 You know, I'm almost a little... 1635 01:24:30,825 --> 01:24:32,241 It's something of the past, 1636 01:24:32,283 --> 01:24:34,283 and I so do not want to dwell on the past. 1637 01:24:34,325 --> 01:24:35,908 - Sure. - The good or the bad. 1638 01:24:35,950 --> 01:24:38,158 I'm always futuristic in what I can do next 1639 01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:39,576 and what opportunities we can... 1640 01:24:39,618 --> 01:24:42,241 you know, that Ian and I can come up with, and... 1641 01:24:42,283 --> 01:24:44,325 You know, life is so exciting. 1642 01:25:00,075 --> 01:25:01,866 So how did you find out 1643 01:25:01,908 --> 01:25:04,825 that Steve had contracted HIV? 1644 01:25:04,866 --> 01:25:06,408 I did a blood test. 1645 01:25:08,491 --> 01:25:13,366 Did you suspect that he was becoming ill with that? 1646 01:25:13,408 --> 01:25:15,033 He had some symptoms. 1647 01:25:15,075 --> 01:25:19,366 Not of HIV, but there were vague symptoms. 1648 01:25:19,408 --> 01:25:21,783 And I was the one that told him he had AIDS, yeah. 1649 01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:26,033 You have to remember, AIDS, at that time... 1650 01:25:26,075 --> 01:25:27,450 it wasn't a disease. 1651 01:25:28,866 --> 01:25:30,950 It was a condemnation. 1652 01:25:30,991 --> 01:25:35,116 And so he wouldn't let me tell our parents. 1653 01:25:35,158 --> 01:25:37,783 He held it together, and... 1654 01:25:37,825 --> 01:25:40,950 I'm sure he didn't hold it together after I left, 1655 01:25:40,991 --> 01:25:42,158 but he held it together. 1656 01:25:44,741 --> 01:25:47,533 Everybody was getting sick. 1657 01:25:47,576 --> 01:25:51,283 It was frightening, and... 1658 01:25:51,325 --> 01:25:55,950 if I'm still emotionally affected by it, 1659 01:25:55,991 --> 01:25:58,200 the loss was profound. 1660 01:26:01,908 --> 01:26:05,283 All these young guys were just fading away. 1661 01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:13,700 Half the bartenders... 1662 01:26:15,366 --> 01:26:18,450 you know, half the people that did the sets... 1663 01:26:18,491 --> 01:26:21,158 the kids that painted, 1664 01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:22,700 they're not with us anymore. 1665 01:26:24,866 --> 01:26:26,200 It was devastating. 1666 01:26:28,866 --> 01:26:33,950 The impact that these people had on the community, 1667 01:26:33,991 --> 01:26:38,075 on the culture, on New York City... 1668 01:26:38,116 --> 01:26:40,283 such an incredible loss. 1669 01:26:40,325 --> 01:26:43,450 Culturally, it changed everything. 1670 01:26:47,700 --> 01:26:49,660 Steve was the kind of guy that, you know, 1671 01:26:49,700 --> 01:26:52,158 if he did something the night before 1672 01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:54,200 that might've been a little embarrassing, 1673 01:26:54,241 --> 01:26:56,366 you would see him the next morning, 1674 01:26:56,408 --> 01:26:57,926 and he would act like nothing happened, 1675 01:26:57,950 --> 01:26:59,884 and get away with it, and that would be the end of it, 1676 01:26:59,908 --> 01:27:01,259 whereas somebody might come into the room 1677 01:27:01,283 --> 01:27:02,594 with their tail between their legs, 1678 01:27:02,618 --> 01:27:04,116 terribly embarrassed. 1679 01:27:04,158 --> 01:27:06,450 So Steve was always able to get away with it. 1680 01:27:06,491 --> 01:27:09,158 This one thing he didn't get away with. 1681 01:27:18,991 --> 01:27:21,158 Steve Rubell changed the look, the feel, 1682 01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:22,908 and the pace of New York's nightlife 1683 01:27:22,950 --> 01:27:25,618 when he opened up Studio 54 some years ago. 1684 01:27:25,660 --> 01:27:28,033 Well, Rubell died this morning here in Manhattan 1685 01:27:28,075 --> 01:27:29,741 from complications of hepatitis. 1686 01:27:29,783 --> 01:27:31,700 Steve Rubell died of complications 1687 01:27:31,741 --> 01:27:34,283 resulting from hepatitis and septic shock. 1688 01:27:34,325 --> 01:27:35,660 Steve Rubell, 1689 01:27:35,700 --> 01:27:37,366 who died yesterday of liver failure... 1690 01:27:37,408 --> 01:27:39,217 There were rumors that Rubell succumbed to AIDS, 1691 01:27:39,241 --> 01:27:40,991 but the official word is that he died 1692 01:27:41,033 --> 01:27:42,533 of hepatitis and septic shock. 1693 01:27:42,576 --> 01:27:44,325 He didn't want the press 1694 01:27:44,366 --> 01:27:46,991 to put in the obit 1695 01:27:47,033 --> 01:27:50,366 that he died of complications of AIDS. 1696 01:27:50,408 --> 01:27:53,158 That was kept out. 1697 01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:55,408 I wanted to, you know, make sure 1698 01:27:55,450 --> 01:27:57,450 everybody came to the funeral 1699 01:27:57,491 --> 01:27:59,408 because that's what Steve would've wanted 1700 01:27:59,450 --> 01:28:01,033 was, like, a big send-off. 1701 01:28:01,075 --> 01:28:03,741 So I was on the phone making calls 1702 01:28:03,783 --> 01:28:05,866 to make sure everybody would, you know, would come. 1703 01:28:05,908 --> 01:28:07,866 The funeral for that people person 1704 01:28:07,908 --> 01:28:10,700 turned out the chic of New York City society. 1705 01:28:10,741 --> 01:28:13,116 From Calvin Klein to Bianca Jagger 1706 01:28:13,158 --> 01:28:14,783 to his partner Ian Schrager, 1707 01:28:14,825 --> 01:28:16,866 who, at times, looked shaken. 1708 01:28:16,908 --> 01:28:19,283 Losing Steve was like losing a family member. 1709 01:28:21,491 --> 01:28:23,408 So it was a very difficult day, 1710 01:28:23,450 --> 01:28:25,325 and a very difficult time. I think it hit... 1711 01:28:25,366 --> 01:28:27,325 Every one of our Studio family 1712 01:28:27,366 --> 01:28:29,408 who knew him felt the same way. 1713 01:28:32,158 --> 01:28:33,783 After the brief service, 1714 01:28:33,825 --> 01:28:35,950 some from Rubell's past said they saw his death 1715 01:28:35,991 --> 01:28:38,618 as emblematic of the passing of an era. 1716 01:28:38,660 --> 01:28:41,491 He gave a magic to the city, 1717 01:28:41,533 --> 01:28:44,576 and the city always needs magic. 1718 01:28:44,618 --> 01:28:47,533 And it always finds its, uh, marker, 1719 01:28:47,576 --> 01:28:49,991 and Steve was it for an awful lot of years. 1720 01:28:51,576 --> 01:28:53,158 Steve Rubell dead 1721 01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:54,533 at 45. 1722 01:28:58,660 --> 01:29:00,660 Ann... Mrs. Rubell... said to me, 1723 01:29:00,700 --> 01:29:02,825 "Why didn't Steve ever get married?" 1724 01:29:02,866 --> 01:29:04,866 And I realized then that I'm not sure 1725 01:29:04,908 --> 01:29:07,908 that she really knew that he was gay. 1726 01:29:07,950 --> 01:29:10,908 That was part of that time, 1727 01:29:10,950 --> 01:29:12,618 that time of maybe your mother 1728 01:29:12,660 --> 01:29:14,033 was the last to know. 1729 01:29:15,408 --> 01:29:18,618 Steve's death and his illness 1730 01:29:18,660 --> 01:29:23,116 had a huge impact on, um, Ian. 1731 01:29:23,158 --> 01:29:28,408 Their love for each other and their bond was so strong, 1732 01:29:28,450 --> 01:29:31,075 um, that I think it... 1733 01:29:31,116 --> 01:29:34,660 it made an impact for quite some time. 1734 01:29:52,908 --> 01:29:56,866 I met Steve... I think I was 18 or 19... 1735 01:29:56,908 --> 01:29:59,033 and the friendship blossomed right away, 1736 01:29:59,075 --> 01:30:00,700 and I was friendly with him 1737 01:30:00,741 --> 01:30:02,366 for all that time right up to 1989. 1738 01:30:04,075 --> 01:30:07,158 I'm lucky that I had one of those friendships. 1739 01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:09,283 Not many people, you know, do. 1740 01:30:11,491 --> 01:30:15,325 Steve and I bought this house in 1985. 1741 01:30:15,366 --> 01:30:17,283 Has a lot of history, this house. 1742 01:30:19,366 --> 01:30:22,576 It's like a family heirloom. 1743 01:30:22,618 --> 01:30:24,783 For that, it's quite beautiful. 1744 01:30:35,660 --> 01:30:37,660 How did the death of your partner, 1745 01:30:37,700 --> 01:30:40,325 your best friend, affect you? 1746 01:30:40,366 --> 01:30:43,158 It was devastating. It was a personal loss. 1747 01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:47,116 Steve and I were really like husband and wife. 1748 01:30:47,158 --> 01:30:48,991 I'm not sure 1749 01:30:49,033 --> 01:30:51,325 which one was the husband and which one was the wife. 1750 01:30:53,576 --> 01:30:54,866 We vacationed together. 1751 01:30:54,908 --> 01:30:56,342 We shared a house on Long Island together. 1752 01:30:56,366 --> 01:30:58,033 We worked together. We... 1753 01:30:58,075 --> 01:30:59,491 He was the last person I talked to 1754 01:30:59,533 --> 01:31:00,783 when I went to sleep. 1755 01:31:00,825 --> 01:31:03,450 And so it was a personal loss, 1756 01:31:03,491 --> 01:31:06,283 uh, uh, uh, more than anything else. 1757 01:31:06,325 --> 01:31:09,033 On the business end of it, the same passion 1758 01:31:09,075 --> 01:31:12,491 that drove me while Steve was alive still drove me. 1759 01:31:12,533 --> 01:31:13,908 I had the same hunger. 1760 01:31:13,950 --> 01:31:15,366 I still have that same hunger now. 1761 01:31:15,408 --> 01:31:18,325 And so we just continued on. 1762 01:31:18,366 --> 01:31:21,116 It's not as much fun. It's not as exhilarating. 1763 01:31:21,158 --> 01:31:22,991 I don't have someone to share it with. 1764 01:31:23,033 --> 01:31:24,866 But we just... you know, you go on. 1765 01:31:24,908 --> 01:31:26,618 Did you ever doubt that you could do it? 1766 01:31:26,660 --> 01:31:28,980 Of course. I still doubt it. I think that's what drives me. 1767 01:31:41,533 --> 01:31:43,491 It's not a surprise to me 1768 01:31:43,533 --> 01:31:46,075 that through all these years, 1769 01:31:46,116 --> 01:31:48,116 Ian has evolved 1770 01:31:48,158 --> 01:31:49,533 and reinvented himself 1771 01:31:49,576 --> 01:31:52,533 and taken that core of who he is 1772 01:31:52,576 --> 01:31:54,700 to where he is today. 1773 01:31:58,866 --> 01:32:03,283 I was trying to capture energy in the hotels 1774 01:32:03,325 --> 01:32:05,660 in the same way you might capture energy 1775 01:32:05,700 --> 01:32:07,450 on the streets of a city. 1776 01:32:07,491 --> 01:32:09,200 You know, there's an energy 1777 01:32:09,241 --> 01:32:11,618 that lifts everything, 1778 01:32:11,660 --> 01:32:13,618 a high tide that comes in. 1779 01:32:22,991 --> 01:32:25,450 That was the same thing with Studio. 1780 01:32:32,908 --> 01:32:35,408 Studio just meant everything to us, 1781 01:32:35,450 --> 01:32:37,408 what we had gone through together. 1782 01:32:37,450 --> 01:32:39,241 Both of us ingrained 1783 01:32:39,283 --> 01:32:42,158 with that desire to be successful. 1784 01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:44,158 I didn't get it as a lawyer, 1785 01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:47,450 and he didn't get it as a steak restaurateur, 1786 01:32:47,491 --> 01:32:50,200 but we both got it together with Studio. 1787 01:32:59,283 --> 01:33:01,075 What they created, 1788 01:33:01,116 --> 01:33:04,450 nobody has come near since then. 1789 01:33:06,033 --> 01:33:07,991 You know, there was a brevity to it. 1790 01:33:08,033 --> 01:33:11,200 There was a sense of something lost. 1791 01:33:11,241 --> 01:33:12,950 Paradise lost. 1792 01:33:16,241 --> 01:33:19,908 I don't think they had any idea what it would become, 1793 01:33:19,950 --> 01:33:23,450 that it would become this world famous, 1794 01:33:23,491 --> 01:33:26,618 that it would be important in our culture 1795 01:33:26,660 --> 01:33:29,325 and the history of New York City 1796 01:33:29,366 --> 01:33:31,450 and maybe significant in the history 1797 01:33:31,491 --> 01:33:34,075 of what was going on all around the world. 1798 01:33:40,783 --> 01:33:42,866 Studio wasn't a nightclub. 1799 01:33:42,908 --> 01:33:47,533 It was like a kind of social experiment. 1800 01:33:47,576 --> 01:33:50,866 And that's why it's never been able to be recreated. 1801 01:33:52,741 --> 01:33:55,950 It was fun... holding on to a lightning bolt. 1802 01:35:01,450 --> 01:35:05,075 ♪ What's the sense in sharing this one and only life ♪ 1803 01:35:05,116 --> 01:35:09,241 ♪ Ending up just another lost and lonely wife ♪ 1804 01:35:09,283 --> 01:35:11,241 ♪ You count up the years ♪ 1805 01:35:11,283 --> 01:35:15,408 ♪ And they will be filled with tears ♪ 1806 01:35:18,241 --> 01:35:21,825 ♪ Love only breaks up to start over again ♪ 1807 01:35:21,866 --> 01:35:25,991 ♪ You'll get the babies, but you won't have your man ♪ 1808 01:35:26,033 --> 01:35:32,200 ♪ While he's busy loving every woman that he can ♪ 1809 01:35:32,241 --> 01:35:34,200 ♪ Uh-huh ♪ 1810 01:35:34,241 --> 01:35:38,450 ♪ Say I'm gonna leave a hundred times a day ♪ 1811 01:35:38,491 --> 01:35:40,450 ♪ It's easier said than done ♪ 1812 01:35:40,491 --> 01:35:42,576 ♪ When you just can't break away ♪ 1813 01:35:42,618 --> 01:35:44,783 ♪ When you just can't break away ♪ 1814 01:35:44,825 --> 01:35:49,283 ♪ Oh, young hearts run free ♪ 1815 01:35:49,325 --> 01:35:51,576 ♪ They'll never be hung up ♪ 1816 01:35:51,618 --> 01:35:55,283 ♪ Hung up like my man and me ♪ 1817 01:35:57,200 --> 01:35:59,491 ♪ My man and me ♪ 1818 01:36:01,450 --> 01:36:04,033 ♪ Ooh, young hearts ♪ 1819 01:36:04,075 --> 01:36:06,325 ♪ To yourself be true ♪ 1820 01:36:06,366 --> 01:36:12,241 ♪ Don't be no fool when love really don't love you ♪ 1821 01:36:14,491 --> 01:36:16,075 ♪ Don't love you ♪ 1822 01:36:19,116 --> 01:36:22,866 ♪ It's high time now, just one crack at life ♪ 1823 01:36:22,908 --> 01:36:26,866 ♪ Who wants to live it in trouble and strife? ♪ 1824 01:36:26,908 --> 01:36:28,950 ♪ My mind must be free ♪ 1825 01:36:28,991 --> 01:36:33,033 ♪ To learn all I can about me ♪ 1826 01:36:33,075 --> 01:36:35,450 ♪ Mm-hmm ♪ 1827 01:36:35,491 --> 01:36:39,408 ♪ I'm gonna love me for the rest of my days ♪ 1828 01:36:39,450 --> 01:36:43,741 ♪ Encourage the babies every time they say ♪ 1829 01:36:43,783 --> 01:36:49,408 ♪ Self-preservation is what's really going on today ♪ 1830 01:36:52,116 --> 01:36:55,950 ♪ Say I'm gonna turn loose a thousand times a day ♪ 1831 01:36:55,991 --> 01:36:58,033 ♪ But how can I turn loose ♪ 1832 01:36:58,075 --> 01:37:00,200 ♪ When I just can't break away? ♪ 1833 01:37:00,241 --> 01:37:01,741 ♪ When I just can't break away ♪ 1834 01:37:01,783 --> 01:37:06,325 ♪ Oh, young hearts run free ♪ 1835 01:37:06,366 --> 01:37:08,618 ♪ They'll never be hung up ♪ 1836 01:37:08,660 --> 01:37:12,825 ♪ Hung up like my man and me ♪ 1837 01:37:14,950 --> 01:37:16,991 ♪ You and me ♪ 1838 01:37:17,033 --> 01:37:18,491 ♪ Ohh ♪ 1839 01:37:18,533 --> 01:37:20,908 ♪ Ooh, young hearts ♪ 1840 01:37:20,950 --> 01:37:23,158 ♪ To yourself be true ♪ 1841 01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:29,158 ♪ Don't be no fool when love really don't love you ♪ 1842 01:37:31,325 --> 01:37:33,325 ♪ Don't love you ♪ 1843 01:37:42,366 --> 01:37:43,908 ♪ Ohh ♪ 1844 01:37:43,950 --> 01:37:47,660 ♪ Young hearts run free ♪ 1845 01:37:47,700 --> 01:37:50,033 ♪ They'll never be hung up ♪ 1846 01:37:50,075 --> 01:37:53,533 ♪ Hung up like my man and me ♪ 1847 01:37:55,950 --> 01:37:58,366 ♪ My man and me ♪ 1848 01:37:58,408 --> 01:38:02,241 ♪ Ohh Ohh, young hearts ♪ 1849 01:38:02,283 --> 01:38:04,533 ♪ To yourself be true ♪ 1850 01:38:04,576 --> 01:38:09,825 ♪ Don't be no fool when love really don't love you ♪ 1851 01:38:12,408 --> 01:38:14,533 ♪ It don't love you ♪ 1852 01:38:14,576 --> 01:38:16,116 ♪ Ohh ♪ 1853 01:38:16,158 --> 01:38:20,618 ♪ Ooh, young hearts run free ♪ 1854 01:38:20,660 --> 01:38:22,991 ♪ They'll never be hung up ♪ 1855 01:38:23,033 --> 01:38:26,660 ♪ Hung up like my man and me ♪ 1856 01:38:29,033 --> 01:38:31,366 ♪ My man and me ♪ 1857 01:38:31,408 --> 01:38:32,700 ♪ Ohh ♪ 1858 01:38:32,741 --> 01:38:35,158 ♪ Oh, young hearts ♪ 1859 01:38:35,200 --> 01:38:37,450 ♪ To yourself be true ♪ 1860 01:38:37,491 --> 01:38:42,783 ♪ Don't be no fool when love really don't love you ♪ 1861 01:38:45,618 --> 01:38:47,325 ♪ Don't love you ♪ 143151

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