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He's wearing bell-bottoms.
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Hold it right there.
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And he's chewing gum.
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I'm not gonna be fake.
I come from Venezuela.
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- More coming up over there.
- Okay.
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- Let the black guy in.
- I think they should let all of us in.
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Exit over there
to your right, please.
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Yeah, let them in.
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I will get inside.
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What do you think
makes a place hot?
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Like 54... What was the phenomenon
that it became international?
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People flew in from over
the world just to go there.
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What made it such a...
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I don't know.
I, uh... You know,
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in a club it's all about
capturing a moment.
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When you walked through
those blacked-out doors,
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you were in another world.
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Anyone that was allowed in,
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uh, was totally free inside.
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Steve and I had no idea
what it would really mean,
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or that it would last
only 33 months.
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Just captured
everybody's imagination.
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You could be next
to Elizabeth Taylor
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or, uh, just about anybody,
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uh, and feel wonderful
and good about yourself.
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I love the nightlife,
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and I love seeing people
have fun nights.
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There's nothing
that makes me happier
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than to see the people
having a good time.
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Everybody that was there
was a star.
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Thanks. That makes me
feel great.
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It does, because so much bad
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came out of it,
you know, for Ian and I
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that it's good to think
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some people
think of it like that.
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The owners of Studio 54, Ian Schrager
and Steven Rubell...
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Two dozen agents raided
the chic disco this morning.
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It's up to ten years in prison.
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What was your reaction
when you learned
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that your partner
had been arrested?
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- I just go?
- Uh, yeah, try that.
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Well, um,
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you know, I was
wondering to myself why,
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after almost 40 years, you know,
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I would finally feel okay
to talk about Studio,
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'cause I hadn't talked
about it, you know, at all.
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Now I'm at a point in my life
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that it doesn't sting as much
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after all this time
the way it used to sting.
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There's only two people
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that could've told this story...
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Steve and I.
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That's why I'm happy
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to finally tell the story
as it really happened.
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All right.
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You haven't seen the book
in a few weeks,
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so we should look at everything,
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and I have to ask you
a couple questions.
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I never been in a room
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with so many celebrities.
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It was like numb.
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So we need a picture here.
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This one.
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My friendship with Steve
was always very close,
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almost from the moment we met.
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We met in college.
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We both came from Brooklyn,
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middle class,
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lower middle-class
working families.
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Everybody upwardly mobile
and ambitious,
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and everybody wanted their kids
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to do better than they did.
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Brooklyn made me hungry.
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My father was a tennis pro,
and I played tennis,
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and I'd visit these estates,
and I saw how people live.
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And you just see
this whole other life.
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You were very well aware
of the difference
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between what they had
and what you had.
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Somehow tennis
expanded the universe,
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and you saw that there
were other possibilities.
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We chose, as much as possible,
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to try and pursue
those avenues of success.
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In college,
Ian was very studious.
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He wanted to become an attorney.
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And Stevie was
the social butterfly.
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If you wanted to meet a certain girl,
you saw Steve Rubell.
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If you needed to know
what courses to take,
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you saw Steve Rubell.
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He knew everybody
at Syracuse University.
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Steve was the most
public of people,
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but he, in fact,
was very private.
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He was never open
about his sexuality
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and the fact that he was gay.
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It wasn't something
we talked about.
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You know, it didn't matter.
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Steve was an extrovert,
and, yeah, I am an introvert,
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but inside, value-wise,
essence-wise,
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you know, we were the same.
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After we graduated,
I got a job as a lawyer,
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and then Steve was working
on the steak restaurants.
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Steve was very interested
in doing steak restaurants
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in as many places as fast
as he could possibly do it.
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He had expanded too quickly,
and they weren't doing well.
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So I acted as his lawyer
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and kept the creditors at bay.
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That's when Steve and I
became partners.
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I was the one that wanted to go
into the nightclub business
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because I smelled that there was
a real, you know, opportunity with it.
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That ambition, that drive
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really forged
a real bond between us.
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Steve always felt
he had something to prove,
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as I did.
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From the beginning,
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they had this
intuitive understanding
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that they were getting out
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and they were gonna do
something big together.
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The Vietnam War ended,
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and Watergate ended,
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and everybody, all of a sudden,
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was tired of being concerned
about outside forces,
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and they said,
"I want to have some fun."
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They were tired
of being serious.
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So everybody went out
and went wild.
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We were going out to clubs
in Manhattan all the time,
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and trying to figure out
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what kind of club
we wanted to create.
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♪ Makossa ♪
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Gay clubs
were some of the first clubs
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that had disco music.
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But disco was black music,
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and it came out of black clubs.
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♪ Makossa ♪
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The beautiful models,
the girls would go to the gay clubs
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with the gay designers
and hairdressers and makeup men,
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and then the straight guys
would want to meet the models,
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so they would go to these clubs,
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and it all started blending.
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For me, as a New Yorker,
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I'm telling you,
this was revolutionary.
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And it was the first time
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that it felt like
people were nonjudgmental.
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Everybody was fine
with everybody else's culture.
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At that time, gay clubs were
behind closed doors, hidden.
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It was a little bit like going to
a speakeasy in the '20s, I suppose.
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It was subversive,
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and there was
an incredible energy.
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We wanted
to tap through the loose,
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intense, sweaty, dancing fun
that was happening there
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and take it up a notch...
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to create
the ultimate nightclub.
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Blow everybody away with it.
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Dent the universe.
Change the world.
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♪ Makossa ♪
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Ian and I walked into this
old opera house and theater,
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and Ian and I both saw it,
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and we both went upstairs
and signed the lease.
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And some people
said we were crazy
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'cause we were on 8th Avenue
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and 5th and 4th when
the West Side was nothing.
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In those days, it was not.
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And Mayor Beame said he's
gonna clean up the streets.
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We're still waiting.
It's very dirty.
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I'm living here many years,
when I remember
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when it was beautiful,
and now it stinks.
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54th and 8th
wasn't Disneyfied yet.
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It was really
a very sleazy neighborhood.
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Perhaps the sleaziest
neighborhood in the city...
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the West Side
and the Theatre District.
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If you wanted to get mugged,
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that was really
a good place to go.
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It was amazing that anyone
would think of opening up
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a discotheque
on West 54th Street.
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In the '20s, it was built
as an opera house.
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And then it used to be
a CBS television studio.
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And there were some really
big-time shows that were there.
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Time now for everybody's
favorite guessing game...
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Uh, What's My Line?,
Captain Kangaroo,
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The $64,000 Question.
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I mean, these are big-time
television programs.
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They had all moved to L.A.,
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and it sat empty
for a long time.
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This is around the 40th
anniversary of Studio.
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It seems like yesterday to me.
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Now there's a sloped floor
here for the theater,
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like there was when we
were here 40 years ago.
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But, you know, you can't have
a sloped floor and have dancing.
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So we had to level it off.
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And we didn't have enough time
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to get a building permit
to do it.
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We had to just start working
on it immediately.
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So we said,
"Just go ahead and do it."
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We had a guy
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on a tall ladder
with a paintbrush...
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that was maybe 30 feet long...
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- Right. Right.
- ...and he was painting the ceiling.
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And someone kept
moving the ladder.
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Yeah, I worked 30 hours
straight right up to the opening.
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Yeah. And it was that kind
of unbridled energy,
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you know, that got this whole place
built in six weeks.
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We were competing against
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what probably is the best
nightclub people in the world,
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and wanted to have
the best of those clubs.
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First, we went
to the usual suspects.
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They said
they couldn't work with us
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'cause they were told not to
by our competitors.
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So, it was out of that problem
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that it went to Jules Fisher
and Paul Marantz,
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Tony award-winning
lighting designers.
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The theater part
was already there,
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and we made as much use of it
as possible,
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which turned out
to be a very good idea.
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And the people we hired to help us
were mostly coming from the theater,
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'cause this was all at the speed
of a theater production.
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We were hammering and nailing,
we were working there,
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we were wiring, we were doing
everything... I don't know...
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with no unions, no nothing,
you know?
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I remember I was even
a little bit afraid,
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because we had to
have people back here.
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They were paid $65.00 a night.
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That was a lot of money,
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and I was afraid
it was gonna impact the margins.
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And I didn't want
to have anybody back here.
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You know,
even having a lighting guy.
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Up to that point,
no nightclub had a lighting guy.
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The DJ did the lights.
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He played the music, and then
he played with the lights.
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There was nothing like it. So,
we had a DJ, we had a lighting guy,
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we had two guys
on a fly reel back here.
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Like, we had four people
in that thing.
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♪ Shoot me ♪
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There's still some old CBS
residual stuff around here too.
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CBS left a lot behind
that was just lying here for years.
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What we tried to do was keep it
in the context of a theater.
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All the lighting...
Everything was designed...
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The rawness of it,
the seeing of the lights...
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It wasn't designed
to be just pretty,
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it was designed to be a theater.
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There was just
a tremendous amount of detail
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that went into the band floor.
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And, of course,
all the interior design.
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You know, we just...
we had to race ahead
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and were doing everything
instinctive.
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Making the club was Ian's job.
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Steve did not get involved
in this kind of stuff.
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But they were both engineering
this whole process
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of getting the right crowd
in the club.
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♪ Ooh, ahh ♪
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♪ Ooh, ahh ♪
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Ian and Steve
shared the same office,
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and Steve was always
laying on the couch.
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They were making deals
and calling people,
252
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and they were
sending limousines,
253
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they were inviting
all the important big names.
254
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We were also sending out
thousands of invitations.
255
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All those things contributed
to the groundswell, the buzz.
256
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♪ Ooh, ahh ♪
257
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♪ Ooh, ahh ♪
258
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In the crush of everything
that was going on,
259
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it was impossible to get a liquor
license in that period of time.
260
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And matter of fact,
we kind of forgot about it.
261
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It got lost in everything.
262
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So we thought we would
go up and get a series
263
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of one-day catering permits.
264
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And so we called our company
the Broadway Catering Corp.
265
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This is the first article
ever written on Studio.
266
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This is Deana Winterpiece.
267
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"'Then we saw this',
said Steven Rubell,
268
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"leading a tour around
the forgotten theater that is,
269
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even as we write, becoming New York's
newest discotheque."
270
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How much did it cost?
271
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400,000. I remember that.
272
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- No, it was more, because we...
- No.
273
00:16:50,783 --> 00:16:52,783
...we owed him money.
274
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- We owed him money.
- How much?
275
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Probably another 350, 400,000.
276
00:16:59,283 --> 00:17:01,660
Yeah, it was close to 700,000.
277
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-Are you sure, Jack?
'Cause I always remember 400.
278
00:17:03,925 --> 00:17:04,660
Um, yeah. Yeah...
279
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Who did you owe money to?
280
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To the contractor.
281
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And, you know, that made me nervous
because I was on the hook.
282
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You guys weren't.
We didn't have anything.
283
00:17:15,491 --> 00:17:17,825
Jack, why did you do this?
284
00:17:17,866 --> 00:17:20,700
Steve and Ian had a club,
285
00:17:20,741 --> 00:17:24,450
Enchanted Gardens,
which is where I met them.
286
00:17:24,491 --> 00:17:26,158
We had done
a bar mitzvah for him.
287
00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,033
And I think at that time,
it was the first time
288
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that anybody had actually
done a discotheque for a, uh...
289
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- Bar mitzvah.
- For a bar mitzvah.
290
00:17:38,450 --> 00:17:41,325
Enchanted Garden
was the first nightclub
291
00:17:41,366 --> 00:17:42,950
that Steve and I did.
292
00:17:42,991 --> 00:17:45,283
It was a club
for the kids in Queens.
293
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The first night,
Steve went to the bar
294
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to hang out with the people,
295
00:17:53,033 --> 00:17:55,618
and I went up in the DJ booth
to play with the lights.
296
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It's not over yet.
297
00:17:59,533 --> 00:18:01,491
Our fabulous band from Fiorucci
298
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are gonna give you
a couple more treats,
299
00:18:04,158 --> 00:18:06,450
and then we hope you'll
join in and dance with them.
300
00:18:06,491 --> 00:18:08,491
It was at the Enchanted Garden
301
00:18:08,533 --> 00:18:12,283
that we started to throw
these extravagant parties.
302
00:18:12,325 --> 00:18:13,783
We learned the business
303
00:18:13,825 --> 00:18:16,033
and got our feet wet in Queens.
304
00:18:16,075 --> 00:18:18,533
But we always wanted to do
305
00:18:18,576 --> 00:18:22,033
a nightclub in Manhattan,
which was the big leagues.
306
00:18:24,408 --> 00:18:26,283
As of tonight,
307
00:18:26,325 --> 00:18:29,783
the disco-goer
becomes the performer.
308
00:18:29,825 --> 00:18:32,116
During the night
you'll have sunsets, sunrises,
309
00:18:32,158 --> 00:18:35,491
fog machines, snow machines,
wind machines.
310
00:18:35,533 --> 00:18:38,533
There'll be a tornado about
1:30 at night to get the people...
311
00:18:38,576 --> 00:18:40,741
Every night at 1:30,
there's gonna be a tornado.
312
00:18:40,783 --> 00:18:42,825
Right. Tonight at 1:30,
there'll be a tornado.
313
00:18:42,866 --> 00:18:44,491
Where do you take shelter
around here?
314
00:18:44,533 --> 00:18:46,991
Oh, we hide upstairs
in the balcony.
315
00:18:47,033 --> 00:18:49,075
You can also retreat
to the balcony
316
00:18:49,116 --> 00:18:52,033
if you don't want to become
one of the performers down there.
317
00:18:52,075 --> 00:18:54,241
In fact, they encourage you
to come up here,
318
00:18:54,283 --> 00:18:56,241
whether you come up here
to spectate or not.
319
00:18:56,283 --> 00:18:58,325
They give you these binoculars.
320
00:18:58,366 --> 00:19:00,825
Kristy Fair,
Channel 11 Action News,
321
00:19:00,866 --> 00:19:05,075
on the balcony,
out of the act, at Studio 54.
322
00:19:10,283 --> 00:19:15,491
We had everything
riding on this club.
323
00:19:15,533 --> 00:19:19,950
If it was a failure, it would've been
a very, very big failure.
324
00:19:19,991 --> 00:19:23,576
And if it was a success,
it would've been a big success.
325
00:19:31,033 --> 00:19:34,700
The opening night,
there's a mob scene.
326
00:19:34,741 --> 00:19:37,660
It was almost impossible
to get close to the door.
327
00:19:39,825 --> 00:19:42,825
We didn't have the velvet rope
all stretched out.
328
00:19:42,866 --> 00:19:44,700
And we didn't have
adequate security.
329
00:19:44,741 --> 00:19:47,009
We had to take all the rest of
the security that was in the place
330
00:19:47,033 --> 00:19:48,700
and put them out front.
331
00:19:48,741 --> 00:19:52,116
And we were afraid that they
might break the door down.
332
00:19:52,158 --> 00:19:54,158
All right, please,
everybody back up.
333
00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,241
At first, I was
hired as security,
334
00:19:59,283 --> 00:20:00,783
but that first night,
335
00:20:00,825 --> 00:20:02,700
Steve put me outside
the front door,
336
00:20:02,741 --> 00:20:04,991
and I was out front
from day one.
337
00:20:05,033 --> 00:20:08,075
And Marc Benecke
became the doorman
338
00:20:08,116 --> 00:20:09,825
only because
he was the better-looking
339
00:20:09,866 --> 00:20:11,783
of the rest
of the security guys.
340
00:20:11,825 --> 00:20:14,241
I'd never worked
at a nightclub before.
341
00:20:14,283 --> 00:20:19,033
I, you know, just had to...
I had to just kind of wing it.
342
00:20:19,075 --> 00:20:21,783
It was really beyond crazy.
343
00:20:25,158 --> 00:20:30,033
I remember getting
past the doorman,
344
00:20:30,075 --> 00:20:32,075
and there was a carpeted...
345
00:20:32,116 --> 00:20:34,158
Looked like almost a runway.
346
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,700
And it was mirrored.
347
00:20:36,741 --> 00:20:39,908
The coatroom was to the right.
348
00:20:39,950 --> 00:20:43,576
I just remember hearing the music,
and I threw my coat.
349
00:20:43,618 --> 00:20:45,283
The coat check
was so out of control.
350
00:20:45,325 --> 00:20:46,825
I just started
giving people tickets.
351
00:20:46,866 --> 00:20:48,426
We were hanging coats
or putting coats...
352
00:20:48,450 --> 00:20:50,200
Then we're just throwing coats
on the floor.
353
00:20:50,241 --> 00:20:52,509
Like, hundreds of people must've
lost their coats that night.
354
00:20:52,533 --> 00:20:55,075
It was...
It was total pandemonium.
355
00:20:57,158 --> 00:20:59,158
Boom, boom, boom.
356
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,741
The sound of the music
down the hall.
357
00:21:02,783 --> 00:21:06,866
There was a rush to get
to the dance floor. Just a rush.
358
00:21:06,908 --> 00:21:08,741
The full blast of the sound,
359
00:21:08,783 --> 00:21:10,866
you know, just came over you
in a big wave.
360
00:21:10,908 --> 00:21:14,366
♪ You make me feel ♪
361
00:21:14,408 --> 00:21:16,950
♪ Mighty real ♪
362
00:21:18,408 --> 00:21:21,491
♪ You make me feel ♪
363
00:21:21,533 --> 00:21:25,033
♪ Mighty real ♪
364
00:21:27,033 --> 00:21:29,660
The amount of drugs
was profound.
365
00:21:29,700 --> 00:21:31,241
You know?
And they were all uppers.
366
00:21:31,283 --> 00:21:34,450
No one was on a downer
that night.
367
00:21:34,491 --> 00:21:38,200
♪ You make me feel ♪
368
00:21:38,241 --> 00:21:42,075
It was carefree.
It was hot. It was sexy.
369
00:21:42,116 --> 00:21:45,033
♪ Mighty real ♪
370
00:21:45,075 --> 00:21:48,741
♪ Make me feel mighty real ♪
371
00:21:48,783 --> 00:21:53,783
Something happened from that
first night opening party.
372
00:21:53,825 --> 00:21:55,783
The message was sent out.
373
00:21:55,825 --> 00:21:58,950
It was like, poom,
this was the spot.
374
00:21:58,991 --> 00:22:00,950
♪ I feel real ♪
375
00:22:00,991 --> 00:22:03,158
They invited the people
376
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,950
that everyone else wanted
to be in a room with.
377
00:22:05,991 --> 00:22:09,533
♪ You make me feel ♪
378
00:22:09,576 --> 00:22:13,325
♪ Mighty real ♪
379
00:22:13,366 --> 00:22:16,908
♪ You make me feel ♪
380
00:22:16,950 --> 00:22:20,576
♪ Mighty real ♪
381
00:22:20,618 --> 00:22:24,283
♪ Oh, you make me feel ♪
382
00:22:24,325 --> 00:22:27,741
♪ Mighty real ♪
383
00:22:27,783 --> 00:22:30,033
♪ You make me feel ♪
384
00:22:30,075 --> 00:22:31,700
I was absolutely shell-shocked.
385
00:22:33,075 --> 00:22:34,950
Steve was only 33,
386
00:22:34,991 --> 00:22:37,241
I was 29,
387
00:22:37,283 --> 00:22:39,700
and we had this massive hit.
388
00:22:39,741 --> 00:22:42,618
We were on the front page
of the New York Post.
389
00:22:42,660 --> 00:22:45,366
No other place had ever
gotten that. None.
390
00:22:45,408 --> 00:22:48,660
It was like a dream for us.
391
00:22:48,700 --> 00:22:52,700
Then it was just a question
of, uh, feeding the monster.
392
00:22:57,366 --> 00:22:58,908
Who, me?
393
00:23:04,700 --> 00:23:06,176
I think they wanna get
out of the cab.
394
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,450
Get them out of the cab.
395
00:23:07,491 --> 00:23:09,158
Oh, you're not shaved.
396
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:10,926
There's no way in a million
years you're gonna get in.
397
00:23:10,950 --> 00:23:12,910
- Every...
- It doesn't matter. You're not shaved.
398
00:23:12,950 --> 00:23:14,866
- Listen, just go home.
- Over here!
399
00:23:14,908 --> 00:23:16,866
I'll try as soon as some leave.
400
00:23:20,158 --> 00:23:22,283
- Marc, check that side.
- Right over here.
401
00:23:22,325 --> 00:23:23,866
Can you put the lights
down a little?
402
00:23:23,908 --> 00:23:25,408
I can't see some of 'em.
403
00:23:25,450 --> 00:23:27,283
This is the scene
404
00:23:27,325 --> 00:23:30,533
outside a New York disco
called Studio 54.
405
00:23:30,576 --> 00:23:33,241
This is the place that's in
with the disco crowd.
406
00:23:33,283 --> 00:23:35,366
Except that these people
are still out.
407
00:23:37,408 --> 00:23:39,783
Of course, Liza Minnelli
and her kind of celebrities
408
00:23:39,825 --> 00:23:42,783
sweep right through
the protective ranks of doorkeepers.
409
00:23:42,825 --> 00:23:43,588
The ropes came about
410
00:23:43,750 --> 00:23:45,991
because there were prostitutes
on 8th and 5th and 4th,
411
00:23:46,033 --> 00:23:48,741
and in order to keep them out,
we put the ropes up.
412
00:23:48,783 --> 00:23:50,950
And the ropes became
part of the game.
413
00:23:50,991 --> 00:23:52,991
Steve!
414
00:23:53,033 --> 00:23:54,700
Now, you only admit celebrities?
415
00:23:54,741 --> 00:23:57,325
No. No.
We admit everybody.
416
00:23:57,366 --> 00:23:58,366
How do you choose?
417
00:23:58,408 --> 00:24:00,783
What are your criteria
for admitting someone?
418
00:24:00,825 --> 00:24:01,661
Really fun-loving...
419
00:24:01,823 --> 00:24:03,991
We want people who are just
in there to have fun
420
00:24:04,033 --> 00:24:05,908
and not get heavy
with each other.
421
00:24:05,950 --> 00:24:08,825
- People come there to relax.
- You favor couples versus singles?
422
00:24:08,866 --> 00:24:11,366
We... Couples, gay people,
you know?
423
00:24:15,741 --> 00:24:17,576
Going out in those days,
424
00:24:17,618 --> 00:24:19,700
it was all about ego.
425
00:24:19,741 --> 00:24:23,158
This was one's lifestyle.
426
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,866
If you didn't
see somebody at Studio 54,
427
00:24:26,908 --> 00:24:29,283
it meant they couldn't get in.
428
00:24:29,325 --> 00:24:31,660
And what did that mean?
429
00:24:31,741 --> 00:24:34,533
Pfft!
430
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,991
Every night, there
would be a guest list
431
00:24:40,033 --> 00:24:42,325
that would be
for the front door.
432
00:24:42,366 --> 00:24:44,950
There'd be somebody's name
on the guest list,
433
00:24:44,991 --> 00:24:46,366
then the next column,
434
00:24:46,408 --> 00:24:50,618
there would be "pay,"
"comp," or "NFU."
435
00:24:50,660 --> 00:24:54,450
And "NFU" meant "no fuck-up."
436
00:24:54,491 --> 00:24:56,991
That meant that Marc
had to let them in.
437
00:24:57,033 --> 00:24:59,991
We had "GN,"
which really meant "NG,"
438
00:25:00,033 --> 00:25:02,408
which meant "no good,"
which means if they were no good,
439
00:25:02,450 --> 00:25:04,825
you don't have to let them in.
Celebrities...
440
00:25:04,866 --> 00:25:07,908
Some celebrities get special
treatment, others don't.
441
00:25:07,950 --> 00:25:11,491
- Do they get in for nothing?
- Most of them do, not all.
442
00:25:11,533 --> 00:25:14,576
Mick Jagger and Keith Richards,
of course, would get in.
443
00:25:14,618 --> 00:25:18,033
But some of the other Rolling Stones
actually had to pay.
444
00:25:21,618 --> 00:25:25,783
Friday and Saturday night,
you know,
445
00:25:25,825 --> 00:25:28,825
the so-called bridge-and-tunnel crowd
used to come in.
446
00:25:28,866 --> 00:25:30,576
They didn't get into Studio 54.
447
00:25:30,618 --> 00:25:34,325
They probably did go
to New York-New York,
448
00:25:34,366 --> 00:25:37,366
and Infinity, the Ice Palace,
449
00:25:37,408 --> 00:25:40,116
you know, Hurrah's,
and other clubs like that.
450
00:25:40,158 --> 00:25:43,283
But they weren't
coming to Studio 54.
451
00:25:43,325 --> 00:25:46,200
Steve is the one who came up
with that term "bridge-and-tunnel."
452
00:25:46,241 --> 00:25:47,950
You know, it was his way
453
00:25:47,991 --> 00:25:50,866
of explaining that
we didn't want people
454
00:25:50,908 --> 00:25:55,283
with the polyester shirts,
gold chains.
455
00:25:55,325 --> 00:25:57,408
"Polyester melts
under the lights."
456
00:25:57,450 --> 00:26:00,576
That was, uh...
That was one we heard a lot.
457
00:26:00,618 --> 00:26:02,594
He would split up couples.
He would say to the girl,
458
00:26:02,618 --> 00:26:04,075
"You're really beautiful.
You're in,
459
00:26:04,116 --> 00:26:05,741
"but your boyfriend's
gotta go home
460
00:26:05,783 --> 00:26:07,825
and change
into a cotton shirt."
461
00:26:07,866 --> 00:26:10,408
And would you let yourself in
wearing a shirt like that?
462
00:26:10,450 --> 00:26:12,533
This shirt? Yeah, this is
a good one to let in...
463
00:26:12,576 --> 00:26:15,991
these Hawaiian shirts.
Uh, good one. But, uh,
464
00:26:16,033 --> 00:26:18,467
I don't know if I would've let
myself in when the place started.
465
00:26:18,491 --> 00:26:21,116
I doubt it really very much.
If somebody else was to...
466
00:26:21,158 --> 00:26:23,116
No, actually,
it isn't like that.
467
00:26:23,158 --> 00:26:26,825
The only thing that
it's not based on is money.
468
00:26:26,866 --> 00:26:29,491
Has anybody ever offered you sex?
Oh, yeah.
469
00:26:29,533 --> 00:26:33,783
- Do you take it?
- Depends on the offer.
470
00:26:33,825 --> 00:26:36,033
But they have to be hot enough
to get inside first.
471
00:26:36,075 --> 00:26:38,594
Because if they weren't, then that
wouldn't be a problem anyway.
472
00:26:38,618 --> 00:26:41,283
So it doesn't matter.
473
00:26:46,241 --> 00:26:48,033
If you look at the photograph,
474
00:26:48,075 --> 00:26:50,241
it's a more
slightly hopeful throng.
475
00:26:50,283 --> 00:26:52,366
You see
an occasional waved hand,
476
00:26:52,408 --> 00:26:58,116
a little grin trying to catch the eye
of Marc Benecke or Steve.
477
00:26:58,158 --> 00:27:01,491
It's like the damned
looking into paradise.
478
00:27:03,576 --> 00:27:05,908
I don't know. Last time I was here,
I got in right away.
479
00:27:05,950 --> 00:27:09,991
So I don't know. I guess they either
like the way you look, or they don't.
480
00:27:10,033 --> 00:27:13,491
If I knew what their policy was
and how they selected
481
00:27:13,533 --> 00:27:17,033
those who are permitted
entrance to the inner sanctum,
482
00:27:17,075 --> 00:27:21,325
I might even alter
my personality, my dress,
483
00:27:21,366 --> 00:27:22,908
in order to pass inspection.
484
00:27:22,950 --> 00:27:25,660
But they, apparently,
keep it a secret.
485
00:27:29,325 --> 00:27:32,618
There was a passion to get in,
486
00:27:32,660 --> 00:27:35,450
and a resentment
and a hatred if you didn't.
487
00:27:35,491 --> 00:27:39,825
We didn't care.
We just wanted the success.
488
00:27:51,075 --> 00:27:55,325
Ian and Steve were
excellent at the PR.
489
00:27:55,366 --> 00:27:58,450
Steve just loved
getting on the phone,
490
00:27:58,491 --> 00:28:00,741
and talking to the press
and letting them know
491
00:28:00,783 --> 00:28:02,450
who was there, what went on.
492
00:28:02,491 --> 00:28:05,450
And we got more press
than anybody else.
493
00:28:09,116 --> 00:28:12,408
Ian called me up and said,
"Let's make a deal."
494
00:28:12,450 --> 00:28:16,366
And I would get paid
for wrangling the celebrities.
495
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,618
If I generated
PR around that person,
496
00:28:23,660 --> 00:28:28,116
I would get $500
for the cover of the Daily News.
497
00:28:28,158 --> 00:28:30,009
If I got them on the cover
of the New York Post,
498
00:28:30,033 --> 00:28:31,991
it would be an additional $500.
499
00:28:32,033 --> 00:28:35,366
And then if I got them into
"Page Six," it'd be like 150.
500
00:28:35,408 --> 00:28:38,450
So, any celebrity that walked in
501
00:28:38,491 --> 00:28:41,450
pretty much got on the cover of
the New York Post or the Daily News.
502
00:28:41,491 --> 00:28:44,576
It was huge news.
503
00:28:44,618 --> 00:28:47,241
Anything that happened there
504
00:28:47,283 --> 00:28:49,491
was on the cover
of the newspapers,
505
00:28:49,533 --> 00:28:52,241
was double pages inside.
506
00:28:52,283 --> 00:28:55,158
And there were celebrities
there every night.
507
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,533
Everyone felt like
they had to be there,
508
00:28:58,576 --> 00:29:02,450
or they were missing out.
509
00:29:02,491 --> 00:29:04,660
There was this paradigm shift
510
00:29:04,700 --> 00:29:09,576
away from reading about
crime and and sports heroes,
511
00:29:09,618 --> 00:29:12,200
and people became fascinated
with celebrities.
512
00:29:14,325 --> 00:29:18,200
It was the beginning
of the age of celebrity.
513
00:29:18,241 --> 00:29:20,408
We were there at the right time,
514
00:29:20,450 --> 00:29:23,908
and we rode it
for all that it was worth.
515
00:29:32,660 --> 00:29:36,200
The photographers we let in
were those that we could control,
516
00:29:36,241 --> 00:29:39,491
that would play by the rules
that we set up.
517
00:29:43,660 --> 00:29:46,533
Here's the Studio 54 box.
518
00:29:48,700 --> 00:29:51,116
Here's some of the pictures
that I've taken.
519
00:29:51,158 --> 00:29:56,033
This is a great shot
of, uh, Elton John
520
00:29:56,075 --> 00:30:00,450
feeling the boobs of Divine.
521
00:30:00,491 --> 00:30:06,116
I did miss Bianca, but I got
Dolly Parton kissing this horse.
522
00:30:06,158 --> 00:30:08,533
In the limousine,
I got this great shot
523
00:30:08,576 --> 00:30:10,950
of Liz Taylor in a limousine.
524
00:30:10,991 --> 00:30:12,825
I call it "Fat Liz."
525
00:30:14,618 --> 00:30:17,783
Here we have Truman Capote
with his robe.
526
00:30:17,825 --> 00:30:20,283
And he had slippers.
I have another shot
527
00:30:20,325 --> 00:30:25,200
with his slippers...
with his initials on his slippers.
528
00:30:26,783 --> 00:30:30,991
There's Ian Schrager
at the stage door,
529
00:30:31,033 --> 00:30:33,450
looking for an arrival
of a celebrity.
530
00:30:33,491 --> 00:30:35,866
I don't know which celebrity
he was looking for.
531
00:30:35,908 --> 00:30:37,825
But Ian was very nice.
532
00:30:37,866 --> 00:30:40,866
He was an introvert.
533
00:30:40,908 --> 00:30:42,450
He was rare, actually.
534
00:30:42,491 --> 00:30:44,283
It was a rare time
I got that picture.
535
00:30:44,325 --> 00:30:46,283
He didn't like publicity.
Like, you see,
536
00:30:46,325 --> 00:30:49,783
here's a braggadocio.
537
00:30:49,825 --> 00:30:52,033
Here's a braggadocio!
538
00:30:52,075 --> 00:30:53,783
Steve Rubell!
539
00:30:53,825 --> 00:30:55,741
Here I am.
540
00:30:55,783 --> 00:30:57,741
Look at me.
541
00:30:57,783 --> 00:31:01,618
He's there with the stars.
Big stars, small stars.
542
00:31:01,660 --> 00:31:04,116
He wanted exposure,
and he got it.
543
00:31:04,158 --> 00:31:07,450
He got a lot of exposure.
He's in the pictures.
544
00:31:11,866 --> 00:31:13,450
What came first,
545
00:31:13,491 --> 00:31:16,491
the photographers
or the celebrities?
546
00:31:16,533 --> 00:31:18,950
I think the room,
and being an old studio,
547
00:31:18,991 --> 00:31:21,325
an old theater,
and the lights, and...
548
00:31:21,366 --> 00:31:23,241
That has a lot to do with it.
I mean,
549
00:31:23,283 --> 00:31:25,200
you have to build
a nice mousetrap
550
00:31:25,241 --> 00:31:27,283
to attract the mice.
551
00:31:30,908 --> 00:31:34,533
Steve really took care
of these celebrities.
552
00:31:34,576 --> 00:31:38,408
He became very friendly
with fashion designers like Halston.
553
00:31:38,450 --> 00:31:41,491
The press actually
came up with this phrase,
554
00:31:41,533 --> 00:31:43,950
"Halston-Liza-Bianca-Andy,"
555
00:31:43,991 --> 00:31:45,618
with hyphens between the names.
556
00:31:45,660 --> 00:31:47,450
It was like a unit.
557
00:31:47,491 --> 00:31:50,325
They were the core group.
558
00:31:50,366 --> 00:31:52,908
Studio got so much publicity
559
00:31:52,950 --> 00:31:55,158
that it made all of these people
560
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,116
more of household names.
561
00:31:57,158 --> 00:31:59,283
- Hello, Steven.
- Hi.
562
00:31:59,325 --> 00:32:01,842
I go out of my way to take care of them,
make them feel comfortable,
563
00:32:01,866 --> 00:32:04,825
honestly, 'cause
I get off on it myself.
564
00:32:04,866 --> 00:32:06,950
This was really his dream.
565
00:32:06,991 --> 00:32:10,283
His dream was to be the best
friends with everyone he saw
566
00:32:10,325 --> 00:32:13,491
in the newspapers
and in magazines growing up.
567
00:32:13,533 --> 00:32:14,950
And they were.
568
00:32:14,991 --> 00:32:17,366
Hi, Michael. Come on in.
You can come right in. Hi.
569
00:32:17,408 --> 00:32:19,116
- Hi. Hi.
- How are you?
570
00:32:19,158 --> 00:32:21,283
- You just walked in? How are you?
- Yeah, I did.
571
00:32:21,325 --> 00:32:23,276
-Michael, this is Jane Pauley.
Come sit over here.
572
00:32:23,300 --> 00:32:24,241
Excuse me. Whoops. Can I?
573
00:32:24,283 --> 00:32:26,576
- Hi. Fine.
- How do you do, Michael Jackson?
574
00:32:26,618 --> 00:32:28,783
Good to see you.
Come here a lot?
575
00:32:28,825 --> 00:32:32,741
Oh, God, yes. Because, well...
Why?
576
00:32:32,783 --> 00:32:34,991
I like the atmosphere
of Studio 54.
577
00:32:35,033 --> 00:32:36,491
I've been to a lot
of discotheques,
578
00:32:36,533 --> 00:32:37,908
and I don't like them, honestly.
579
00:32:37,950 --> 00:32:39,283
What's the difference?
580
00:32:39,325 --> 00:32:40,866
All around the world,
I've been...
581
00:32:40,908 --> 00:32:42,700
I don't know. The feeling...
I mean,
582
00:32:42,741 --> 00:32:46,116
the excitement of the props
coming down, and the balcony...
583
00:32:46,158 --> 00:32:48,491
It's just exciting.
Honestly.
584
00:32:48,533 --> 00:32:50,783
People take good care
of you here?
585
00:32:50,825 --> 00:32:54,283
- Yes. Steve's very nice.
- What's Stevie like?
586
00:32:54,325 --> 00:32:57,660
He's one of my favorite people
because he's genuine,
587
00:32:57,700 --> 00:33:00,576
and for real and honest.
588
00:33:00,618 --> 00:33:02,158
And that's
what I like in people.
589
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,533
When you hear the name
Studio 54, what does that do?
590
00:33:04,576 --> 00:33:06,991
Does it... your pulse quicken,
and your feet start moving?
591
00:33:07,033 --> 00:33:09,033
Yeah, I'm ready
to have a good time.
592
00:33:09,075 --> 00:33:11,366
It's where you come
when you want to escape.
593
00:33:11,408 --> 00:33:14,660
It's really escapism.
594
00:33:14,700 --> 00:33:18,033
That's what I try to make it
be, too, is escapism.
595
00:33:18,075 --> 00:33:21,450
In other words, people who have...
whatever hassles they have all day,
596
00:33:21,491 --> 00:33:23,967
- they come here, and they can forget about them.
- That's right.
597
00:33:23,991 --> 00:33:26,950
And they can come here
and just be yourself and dance.
598
00:33:28,866 --> 00:33:30,450
When you dance here,
you're just free.
599
00:33:30,491 --> 00:33:32,618
You dance with
whoever you want to.
600
00:33:32,660 --> 00:33:35,366
You just go...
I mean, you just go wild.
601
00:33:38,950 --> 00:33:42,241
There aren't that
many times in life
602
00:33:42,283 --> 00:33:45,450
where you're absolutely free.
603
00:33:48,783 --> 00:33:52,950
Everybody felt
protected and safe.
604
00:33:56,075 --> 00:33:59,491
You felt like you were in a place
where you could relax.
605
00:33:59,533 --> 00:34:03,283
You saw gay men kissing
for the first time there.
606
00:34:03,325 --> 00:34:05,908
And celebrities with gay men.
607
00:34:05,950 --> 00:34:08,408
And people didn't judge.
608
00:34:08,450 --> 00:34:11,241
You could be who you are
when you were there.
609
00:34:11,283 --> 00:34:15,033
The lighting and everything... I mean,
it makes you feel sensuous.
610
00:34:15,075 --> 00:34:16,991
All this going on and drinking
611
00:34:17,033 --> 00:34:18,783
and thump-thump-thump music
612
00:34:18,825 --> 00:34:21,491
and beautiful people everywhere.
613
00:34:21,533 --> 00:34:24,033
It makes you
want to feel like that.
614
00:34:26,408 --> 00:34:28,950
I was wearing
lingerie and heels,
615
00:34:28,991 --> 00:34:30,991
and I could
go to the dance floor,
616
00:34:31,033 --> 00:34:33,158
and I could dance
with everybody.
617
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,660
I'd float on the dance floor
and dance with...
618
00:34:36,700 --> 00:34:38,866
They were all my friends.
619
00:34:38,908 --> 00:34:40,950
I mean, I didn't know them.
They didn't know me.
620
00:34:40,991 --> 00:34:43,158
But they didn't care,
and I didn't care.
621
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,576
So that's how we danced
at Studio.
622
00:34:45,618 --> 00:34:47,991
We danced with the entire club.
623
00:34:51,533 --> 00:34:53,866
Disco was a haven
624
00:34:53,908 --> 00:34:57,283
for, you know,
inclusion and acceptance,
625
00:34:57,325 --> 00:34:59,366
and that the street wasn't.
626
00:34:59,408 --> 00:35:00,866
Out on the street,
627
00:35:00,908 --> 00:35:04,908
homophobia existed
much more than even today.
628
00:35:04,950 --> 00:35:07,408
Transgenders took
their lives in their hands
629
00:35:07,450 --> 00:35:09,241
walking down the street
in New York City.
630
00:35:11,075 --> 00:35:14,866
But as soon as they stepped foot
into the disco, they were safe.
631
00:35:14,908 --> 00:35:18,075
And not only they were safe,
but they were included,
632
00:35:18,116 --> 00:35:21,450
they were accepted,
they were part of the scene.
633
00:35:21,491 --> 00:35:23,991
Do people ever insult you
or are rude to you?
634
00:35:24,033 --> 00:35:25,825
- No.
- No, they're petrified.
635
00:35:25,866 --> 00:35:27,991
They think we escaped
from a Broadway show.
636
00:35:28,033 --> 00:35:29,660
Basically, New York
people are very open
637
00:35:29,700 --> 00:35:31,283
and very courteous and kind.
638
00:35:31,325 --> 00:35:33,033
No. No, that's not true.
Only at Studio.
639
00:35:33,075 --> 00:35:34,866
- We truly feel at home here.
- Yeah. Yes.
640
00:35:34,908 --> 00:35:38,283
We pay rent, sort of.
$14.00 is rent, I think, you know?
641
00:35:38,325 --> 00:35:43,033
At Studio 54, gay energy
was bigger than life.
642
00:35:43,075 --> 00:35:45,950
The influence filled the room
and filled the space.
643
00:35:48,866 --> 00:35:51,741
The mantra at Studio was
you were in a fantasy
644
00:35:51,783 --> 00:35:53,618
and you could be anyone
you wanted to be
645
00:35:53,660 --> 00:35:55,866
for that moment in time,
and people did.
646
00:35:55,908 --> 00:35:59,408
♪ All that love
and affection ♪
647
00:35:59,450 --> 00:36:01,325
Thank you, Rollerina.
I really needed that.
648
00:36:01,366 --> 00:36:06,283
Rollerina was
a Wall Street banker by day,
649
00:36:06,325 --> 00:36:08,325
a fairy godmother by night.
650
00:36:10,533 --> 00:36:12,783
Disco Sally was a lawyer,
651
00:36:12,825 --> 00:36:15,700
and she was about 78 years old.
652
00:36:15,741 --> 00:36:18,158
I was against Disco Sally
at the beginning
653
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,325
'cause I thought the whole thing
was kind of gimmicky.
654
00:36:21,366 --> 00:36:23,491
And Steve's like,
"No, no, you're wrong. You're wrong.
655
00:36:23,533 --> 00:36:25,533
This is good for the club.
It's good for the club."
656
00:36:28,283 --> 00:36:29,576
Potassa, who was, like,
657
00:36:29,618 --> 00:36:30,908
the most fabulous drag queen
658
00:36:30,950 --> 00:36:32,491
of that whole era.
659
00:36:32,533 --> 00:36:35,866
She was 5'11" out of shoes,
660
00:36:35,908 --> 00:36:38,283
and 6'6" in shoes.
661
00:36:38,325 --> 00:36:43,075
And you never, ever, ever,
ever, ever saw her out of drag.
662
00:36:43,116 --> 00:36:46,116
And she'd hold center stage
when she wanted to.
663
00:36:52,075 --> 00:36:54,491
What's really beautiful
about the Studio...
664
00:36:54,533 --> 00:36:56,283
the combination of people.
665
00:36:56,325 --> 00:36:59,576
If you put just the beautiful people
so close together,
666
00:36:59,618 --> 00:37:01,908
then they... they are used
to seeing each other.
667
00:37:01,950 --> 00:37:03,618
They might even
get bored of that.
668
00:37:03,660 --> 00:37:05,283
But if you mix them properly,
669
00:37:05,325 --> 00:37:07,033
which was the case
of the Studio,
670
00:37:07,075 --> 00:37:08,618
with all the bizarre characters
671
00:37:08,660 --> 00:37:10,241
and the transvestites,
and all that,
672
00:37:10,283 --> 00:37:11,660
they like the combination.
673
00:37:11,700 --> 00:37:13,991
I think it was
a wonderful cocktail.
674
00:37:18,450 --> 00:37:22,366
That diversity created
this combustible energy.
675
00:37:22,408 --> 00:37:24,283
It was tribal almost.
676
00:37:24,325 --> 00:37:26,366
That wild abandonment,
677
00:37:26,408 --> 00:37:28,158
that freedom
was all a part of it.
678
00:37:32,491 --> 00:37:35,866
It was like
an adult amusement park.
679
00:37:35,908 --> 00:37:38,991
They had a real sense
of what people wanted.
680
00:37:39,033 --> 00:37:41,241
You know? Adults wanted.
681
00:37:41,283 --> 00:37:46,991
♪ Ahh, my baby's baby ♪
682
00:37:48,408 --> 00:37:51,200
♪ Oh, my ♪
683
00:37:51,241 --> 00:37:54,783
♪ My baby's baby ♪
684
00:37:57,241 --> 00:38:00,825
In the '70s, there was this
kind of window of opportunity
685
00:38:00,866 --> 00:38:03,075
between the invention
of the pill
686
00:38:03,116 --> 00:38:04,991
and the advent of AIDS.
687
00:38:05,033 --> 00:38:07,366
So, even if you
weren't promiscuous
688
00:38:07,408 --> 00:38:09,741
or sleeping with someone
different every night,
689
00:38:09,783 --> 00:38:11,366
you felt like you could.
690
00:38:11,408 --> 00:38:13,991
You know, love was in the air.
691
00:38:14,033 --> 00:38:15,908
Sex was in the air.
692
00:38:15,950 --> 00:38:20,116
♪ Fly, robin, fly ♪
693
00:38:20,158 --> 00:38:22,491
In the balconies, it was dark.
694
00:38:22,533 --> 00:38:25,741
People would make out, and maybe
somebody would give somebody a blow job.
695
00:38:25,783 --> 00:38:27,283
♪ Fly, robin, fly ♪
696
00:38:27,325 --> 00:38:30,116
Same thing in the bathrooms.
697
00:38:30,158 --> 00:38:33,241
♪ Up, up to the sky ♪
698
00:38:33,283 --> 00:38:36,408
There were mattresses
in the basement.
699
00:38:36,450 --> 00:38:38,618
And I went down there
700
00:38:38,660 --> 00:38:40,660
and slept with
a lot of people. A lot.
701
00:38:48,576 --> 00:38:50,158
Gay people had the advantage
702
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,741
because no one was getting
pregnant. So, basically,
703
00:38:52,783 --> 00:38:54,700
you could just go out there
and have a blast,
704
00:38:54,741 --> 00:38:56,217
and you could have sex
as much as you want,
705
00:38:56,241 --> 00:38:57,426
and there was no repercussions.
706
00:38:57,450 --> 00:38:58,700
And why not?
707
00:38:58,741 --> 00:39:00,116
Because you're supposed to now.
708
00:39:00,158 --> 00:39:01,576
It's all about freedom.
709
00:39:01,618 --> 00:39:03,241
You could try anything.
710
00:39:11,075 --> 00:39:12,491
Steve had this huge coat
711
00:39:12,533 --> 00:39:14,241
that he would wear
a lot of times,
712
00:39:14,283 --> 00:39:16,700
and in that coat
was money and drugs.
713
00:39:16,741 --> 00:39:20,116
And it was like Daddy Warbucks.
714
00:39:20,158 --> 00:39:24,033
Steve was big on Quaaludes,
to be quite frank about it.
715
00:39:24,075 --> 00:39:26,660
He loved giving out the Quaaludes.
If you said, "Steve,
716
00:39:26,700 --> 00:39:28,884
I don't want a quaalude,"
he'd say, "Oh, just take a half."
717
00:39:28,908 --> 00:39:31,866
Oh, I don't think
you're a priest, are ya?
718
00:39:31,908 --> 00:39:34,033
You're too much of a bad boy.
719
00:39:34,075 --> 00:39:38,450
He always wanted to get the party
going to another level.
720
00:39:38,491 --> 00:39:40,700
You can say higher and lower,
721
00:39:40,741 --> 00:39:43,116
and I'll leave that
open to interpretation.
722
00:39:43,158 --> 00:39:45,241
Everybody, come on!
723
00:39:45,283 --> 00:39:47,491
You think this happens anywhere else
in the world?
724
00:39:47,533 --> 00:39:50,450
- No.
- No, I was all over the world.
725
00:39:50,491 --> 00:39:54,241
I'm happy.
726
00:39:54,283 --> 00:39:56,450
The music, the lights,
727
00:39:56,491 --> 00:39:59,783
supple-bodied young waiters
dressed in nothing but shorts,
728
00:39:59,825 --> 00:40:02,783
and drinks at
one pound fifty a glass.
729
00:40:02,825 --> 00:40:07,200
The formula has made the owner
a very rich young man.
730
00:40:09,741 --> 00:40:12,075
He enjoyed every night.
731
00:40:12,116 --> 00:40:15,741
I mean, Steve probably
had more fun than anybody.
732
00:40:15,783 --> 00:40:18,908
And the environment
we created allowed him
733
00:40:18,950 --> 00:40:22,991
to be comfortable
and accept his sexuality,
734
00:40:23,033 --> 00:40:25,408
maybe for the first time
in his whole life.
735
00:40:27,241 --> 00:40:29,576
He was in his element.
736
00:40:29,618 --> 00:40:32,700
To me, it was different.
737
00:40:32,741 --> 00:40:34,283
I didn't want
to walk through the crowd
738
00:40:34,325 --> 00:40:36,991
and have to be poked,
people say hello.
739
00:40:38,618 --> 00:40:42,533
All the time
that Studio 54 existed,
740
00:40:42,576 --> 00:40:48,200
you rarely saw pictures of Ian
or read anything about Ian.
741
00:40:48,241 --> 00:40:51,660
Ian was behind the scenes.
742
00:40:51,700 --> 00:40:54,283
But he was the brilliant mind
743
00:40:54,325 --> 00:40:58,283
and designing in a way
that had never been seen.
744
00:40:58,325 --> 00:41:00,741
People were just obsessed
745
00:41:00,783 --> 00:41:03,741
with what he was gonna do next.
746
00:41:05,660 --> 00:41:08,741
There was a theatrical
quality of the place
747
00:41:08,783 --> 00:41:12,241
that I'd never seen before.
748
00:41:12,283 --> 00:41:15,283
It was an experience.
749
00:41:15,325 --> 00:41:17,991
Touching, like, pretty much
all of your senses.
750
00:41:27,908 --> 00:41:29,950
It's a visceral business.
751
00:41:33,366 --> 00:41:35,075
You have really
no discernible product
752
00:41:35,116 --> 00:41:36,908
except the magic you create.
753
00:41:42,325 --> 00:41:45,866
The moving of lights and sets
and changing the environment
754
00:41:45,908 --> 00:41:48,200
from one second to the next...
755
00:41:48,241 --> 00:41:50,241
that had never been done before.
756
00:41:55,908 --> 00:41:59,450
Ian really created
a world of fantasy.
757
00:41:59,491 --> 00:42:01,991
It was the transformation
of individuals
758
00:42:02,033 --> 00:42:04,075
into this sort of group energy
759
00:42:04,116 --> 00:42:06,491
that absolutely exploded.
760
00:42:21,408 --> 00:42:26,033
Ian really is a genius for
creating experiences for people.
761
00:42:26,075 --> 00:42:29,741
We went right up to the edge
762
00:42:29,783 --> 00:42:33,783
in every single aspect of it.
763
00:42:33,825 --> 00:42:37,908
Building code, modalities,
taste levels, social morays...
764
00:42:37,950 --> 00:42:40,533
everything,
right up to the edge.
765
00:42:44,033 --> 00:42:48,116
It would cost as much
as 40,000 or $50,000
766
00:42:48,158 --> 00:42:50,576
just for the one night.
767
00:42:52,825 --> 00:42:55,991
We wanted to break down
that barrier
768
00:42:56,033 --> 00:42:59,158
between the audience
and the performers
769
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,408
and introduce the idea
that anything could happen.
770
00:43:02,450 --> 00:43:03,450
And it did.
771
00:43:08,491 --> 00:43:12,116
Everybody who worked there
knew we were cast members.
772
00:43:12,158 --> 00:43:14,075
We were putting on a show,
773
00:43:14,116 --> 00:43:16,991
and everybody had to give
an incredible performance
774
00:43:17,033 --> 00:43:18,700
and give an incredible service.
775
00:43:29,366 --> 00:43:31,825
I was addicted to Studio 54,
776
00:43:31,866 --> 00:43:33,908
without any question.
777
00:43:33,950 --> 00:43:36,991
I had to go there every night,
and so did a lot of people.
778
00:43:37,033 --> 00:43:41,741
Studio 54 is probably the Mount
Olympus of the disco world.
779
00:43:41,783 --> 00:43:43,660
Right now, it is the center
of the universe
780
00:43:43,700 --> 00:43:46,283
for those who dance
to 125 beats a minute.
781
00:43:46,325 --> 00:43:50,533
Studio 54, the definitive disco
here in New York City.
782
00:44:01,408 --> 00:44:06,325
We were so excited,
so high on the success,
783
00:44:06,366 --> 00:44:10,200
that I would count the money
at night, which I enjoyed.
784
00:44:10,241 --> 00:44:13,033
You know, dump the money
out of the bag,
785
00:44:13,075 --> 00:44:16,950
kind of arrange it,
and then split it up in...
786
00:44:16,991 --> 00:44:18,991
You know, and I
would make three piles,
787
00:44:19,033 --> 00:44:22,325
and bring in a pile for Steve
and a pile for Jack.
788
00:44:25,325 --> 00:44:27,491
One thing that I think,
if you hung out there,
789
00:44:27,533 --> 00:44:29,408
you did notice
was that they changed
790
00:44:29,450 --> 00:44:32,825
the cash register receipt roll
in the middle of the night.
791
00:44:32,866 --> 00:44:35,618
That began to get out.
792
00:44:35,660 --> 00:44:37,783
People began to notice that.
793
00:44:37,825 --> 00:44:40,408
It was about the exhilaration
794
00:44:40,450 --> 00:44:43,700
of having this great success,
our life's dream.
795
00:44:46,533 --> 00:44:48,576
We had the best crowd
in the world.
796
00:44:48,618 --> 00:44:50,825
We had the best press.
We had the best club.
797
00:44:50,866 --> 00:44:52,660
We were number 1.
798
00:44:52,700 --> 00:44:56,033
Suddenly on top of the world.
799
00:44:56,075 --> 00:45:00,033
They were living
in a dream, practically.
800
00:45:00,075 --> 00:45:01,783
It was becoming so much fun
801
00:45:01,825 --> 00:45:05,325
that they were losing touch
with reality.
802
00:45:12,075 --> 00:45:15,533
I was up in my office
with a girl,
803
00:45:15,576 --> 00:45:18,158
and I heard the music stop.
804
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:19,660
Well, I walked downstairs,
805
00:45:19,700 --> 00:45:21,783
and Steve
was already over there.
806
00:45:21,825 --> 00:45:24,092
You're encompassed in this little
world, and all of a sudden,
807
00:45:24,116 --> 00:45:25,676
the lights went on,
and the police are there,
808
00:45:25,700 --> 00:45:28,116
and it was like the reality
was in your face,
809
00:45:28,158 --> 00:45:29,491
like holy shit.
810
00:45:29,533 --> 00:45:32,618
And we were both under arrest.
811
00:45:32,660 --> 00:45:34,700
We still didn't have
a liquor license,
812
00:45:34,741 --> 00:45:36,700
so we were getting
catering permits every night.
813
00:45:36,741 --> 00:45:38,866
But, you know, at a point in time,
they're like,
814
00:45:38,908 --> 00:45:41,576
"Okay, why are these guys coming
every night for a catering permit?
815
00:45:41,618 --> 00:45:43,660
They're a nightclub,
and everybody knows it."
816
00:45:43,700 --> 00:45:45,991
Okay.
817
00:45:46,033 --> 00:45:47,908
Roy Cohn was our lawyer
at the time.
818
00:45:47,950 --> 00:45:53,283
I had called him,
and, uh... to help us.
819
00:45:53,325 --> 00:45:55,408
Their lawyer was Roy Cohn,
820
00:45:55,450 --> 00:45:58,783
and I knew he was also
an attorney for Mob guys
821
00:45:58,825 --> 00:46:01,408
and heavy-duty people
in Manhattan.
822
00:46:01,450 --> 00:46:03,241
That kind of made sense to me...
823
00:46:03,283 --> 00:46:05,491
that there's a reason
they're not afraid of much.
824
00:46:05,533 --> 00:46:07,783
After a few hours,
825
00:46:07,825 --> 00:46:09,908
we were released.
826
00:46:09,950 --> 00:46:13,283
We were able, you know,
to keep the place open
827
00:46:13,325 --> 00:46:16,408
for six months with no liquor.
828
00:46:16,450 --> 00:46:19,741
Then we finally got the license.
829
00:46:19,783 --> 00:46:21,618
I have a picture of me and Steve
830
00:46:21,660 --> 00:46:26,408
holding the liquor license
when we got it.
831
00:46:26,450 --> 00:46:28,283
And from that moment on,
832
00:46:28,325 --> 00:46:30,533
we felt like
we conquered the world.
833
00:46:36,075 --> 00:46:38,075
They thought
they were so important
834
00:46:38,116 --> 00:46:40,450
that they could do anything.
835
00:46:40,491 --> 00:46:44,618
But people started to get angrier
and angrier at Steve Rubell
836
00:46:44,660 --> 00:46:47,325
and at Studio 54
because they couldn't get in.
837
00:46:47,366 --> 00:46:49,326
- One day, I'll be a star.
- They won't let me in.
838
00:46:52,991 --> 00:46:56,158
You can't have
this much popularity
839
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:00,283
without somebody somewhere
840
00:47:00,325 --> 00:47:03,950
being envious
or wanting to take it down.
841
00:47:03,991 --> 00:47:07,660
I mean, it's human nature.
It's just the way life is.
842
00:47:11,033 --> 00:47:13,450
The Dan Dorfman article,
843
00:47:13,491 --> 00:47:16,200
Steve said,
"Only the Mafia does better,
844
00:47:16,241 --> 00:47:17,700
but don't tell anybody."
845
00:47:19,741 --> 00:47:22,825
Part of Stevie
was a braggart, you know?
846
00:47:22,866 --> 00:47:24,866
"Look what I'm doing,
I'm having the best time,
847
00:47:24,908 --> 00:47:27,075
and we're making
tons of money."
848
00:47:27,116 --> 00:47:29,450
He was very proud about that.
849
00:47:29,491 --> 00:47:31,908
I thought it was the stupidest thing
I'd ever seen.
850
00:47:31,950 --> 00:47:33,908
And when I called him, I said,
851
00:47:33,950 --> 00:47:35,325
"You're asking the IRS
852
00:47:35,366 --> 00:47:38,075
to just come knocking
at your door."
853
00:47:38,116 --> 00:47:41,283
And he said, "No, no,
no one's gonna bother me."
854
00:47:49,408 --> 00:47:52,450
Close to two dozen IRS agents
855
00:47:52,491 --> 00:47:54,450
raided the chic disco
this morning,
856
00:47:54,491 --> 00:47:56,491
armed with a warrant
to search and seize
857
00:47:56,533 --> 00:48:00,825
any and all records relating
to the club's finances.
858
00:48:00,866 --> 00:48:05,200
We got raided
on December 14th, 1978.
859
00:48:05,241 --> 00:48:08,116
December 14th...
that was just a terrible day.
860
00:48:10,241 --> 00:48:15,033
The Studio 54 case began
with an allegation
861
00:48:15,075 --> 00:48:18,241
of a gigantic
skimming operation,
862
00:48:18,283 --> 00:48:20,991
that there was cash
and drugs hidden
863
00:48:21,033 --> 00:48:24,075
at Studio 54.
864
00:48:24,116 --> 00:48:26,741
One of the cleaning guys
called me and said,
865
00:48:26,783 --> 00:48:29,783
"There's some guys here,
and they have warrants."
866
00:48:29,825 --> 00:48:31,825
So I called Steve.
867
00:48:31,866 --> 00:48:33,759
Steve said there were
some Quaaludes in the safe,
868
00:48:33,783 --> 00:48:35,908
and if I can run over
and see if I can get them out.
869
00:48:37,660 --> 00:48:39,660
But I ran into the Feds
870
00:48:39,700 --> 00:48:41,283
while I was in the basement,
871
00:48:41,325 --> 00:48:43,450
and they said,
"Are you the manager?"
872
00:48:43,491 --> 00:48:46,783
I said, "Yeah." And they said,
"Well, come on, open the safe."
873
00:48:48,116 --> 00:48:50,408
27-42-37, da, da, da.
874
00:48:50,450 --> 00:48:52,200
Two this way,
one this way, one this way.
875
00:48:52,241 --> 00:48:53,700
Clink, ploomp, and open.
876
00:48:53,741 --> 00:48:55,075
They said,
"Is this everything?"
877
00:48:55,116 --> 00:48:56,408
And that's when I said,
878
00:48:56,450 --> 00:48:57,636
"Well, there's a couple of boxes
879
00:48:57,660 --> 00:48:58,660
up above here too."
880
00:49:02,950 --> 00:49:04,700
First of all,
I tried to open the door,
881
00:49:04,741 --> 00:49:05,908
and somebody pulled it back
882
00:49:05,950 --> 00:49:07,825
because they were
already in here.
883
00:49:07,866 --> 00:49:09,491
Yeah.
884
00:49:09,533 --> 00:49:11,533
So I put my key in
and tried to open it.
885
00:49:11,576 --> 00:49:15,325
Then they pulled it back.
And then eventually,
886
00:49:15,366 --> 00:49:18,241
the federal marshal,
whatever, just opened it.
887
00:49:18,283 --> 00:49:20,116
This is 9:00 in the morning,
by the way.
888
00:49:20,158 --> 00:49:22,866
Federal marshal opened it
and said something...
889
00:49:22,908 --> 00:49:24,828
"Do you wanna come in,
do you not wanna come in?"
890
00:49:27,241 --> 00:49:30,408
So I came in. I had all my papers
with me like I normally have.
891
00:49:30,450 --> 00:49:34,283
I put them down on the floor,
then I walked in.
892
00:49:34,325 --> 00:49:37,075
Ian Schrager, one of
the owners of Studio 54,
893
00:49:37,116 --> 00:49:38,866
entered the club
some time later,
894
00:49:38,908 --> 00:49:40,158
and agents say
895
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,033
that among his records
they found cocaine.
896
00:49:43,741 --> 00:49:46,116
It wasn't in my books.
It was around my books.
897
00:49:46,158 --> 00:49:48,366
And then they came in.
I put my books on the floor.
898
00:49:48,408 --> 00:49:50,450
Maybe it was left from
the night before. Who knows?
899
00:49:52,325 --> 00:49:53,908
The field test kit
900
00:49:53,950 --> 00:49:56,325
showed positive presence
of cocaine.
901
00:49:56,366 --> 00:49:57,783
Not only was it positive,
902
00:49:57,825 --> 00:49:59,825
the thing was off
the charts, pure.
903
00:49:59,866 --> 00:50:01,825
It looked like it had
been cut right off the key,
904
00:50:01,866 --> 00:50:03,866
as they say
in the narcotics business.
905
00:50:03,908 --> 00:50:07,491
If you're going
to walk onto the premises
906
00:50:07,533 --> 00:50:10,450
that are being searched
by 50 IRS agents,
907
00:50:10,491 --> 00:50:12,283
with cocaine under your arms,
908
00:50:12,325 --> 00:50:13,991
don't walk in.
909
00:50:19,866 --> 00:50:21,908
I was arrested, and
910
00:50:21,950 --> 00:50:24,618
my first call
was to Roy Cohn's office.
911
00:50:24,660 --> 00:50:28,576
And he came down immediately
912
00:50:28,618 --> 00:50:30,618
and advised us
913
00:50:30,660 --> 00:50:32,741
to overturn all
the furniture in the office
914
00:50:32,783 --> 00:50:35,618
and make it look like the agent
915
00:50:35,660 --> 00:50:39,158
turned everything
upside down, like a Gestapo.
916
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,783
They even ruined
my birthday presents.
917
00:50:44,576 --> 00:50:45,825
And it got everybody
918
00:50:45,866 --> 00:50:47,241
even more pissed off at us
919
00:50:47,283 --> 00:50:48,576
because it wasn't true,
920
00:50:48,618 --> 00:50:50,491
and they said
they were very careful
921
00:50:50,533 --> 00:50:53,991
to keep everything very neat.
922
00:50:54,033 --> 00:50:55,741
That kind of started
923
00:50:55,783 --> 00:50:57,783
the litany of mistakes
we made in this thing
924
00:50:57,825 --> 00:50:59,533
because that made the front page
925
00:50:59,576 --> 00:51:01,033
of the Daily News.
926
00:51:02,991 --> 00:51:05,576
I don't think we realized
927
00:51:05,618 --> 00:51:08,241
the, uh, the seriousness
928
00:51:08,283 --> 00:51:11,158
of, uh, of what we got
ourselves involved with
929
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,325
because we're getting away
with everything.
930
00:51:13,366 --> 00:51:15,533
And they were interviewing Ian.
931
00:51:15,576 --> 00:51:19,533
Ian was sitting in a chair
with the chair turned around,
932
00:51:19,576 --> 00:51:21,491
leaning on it like this.
933
00:51:21,533 --> 00:51:23,325
Like, defiant.
934
00:51:23,366 --> 00:51:26,116
Kind of like, with, like,
"Fuck you."
935
00:51:26,158 --> 00:51:28,660
You think he'd be scared,
but he wasn't.
936
00:51:28,700 --> 00:51:31,950
He was... He was pissed.
937
00:51:31,991 --> 00:51:34,241
Seven hours after
the raid began,
938
00:51:34,283 --> 00:51:37,660
co-owner Steve Rubell emerged
with lawyer Roy Cohn,
939
00:51:37,700 --> 00:51:40,533
- who blasted the IRS.
- ...publicity stunt...
940
00:51:40,576 --> 00:51:43,660
Well, you tell me one other
instance in American history
941
00:51:43,700 --> 00:51:45,783
when 23 Internal Revenue Agents
942
00:51:45,825 --> 00:51:47,825
at the beginning
of an investigation,
943
00:51:47,866 --> 00:51:51,200
before they even go to a company's
accountants or lawyers,
944
00:51:51,241 --> 00:51:53,283
come in and raid a place,
945
00:51:53,325 --> 00:51:56,408
tear it to pieces,
open up everything in sight...
946
00:51:56,450 --> 00:51:59,158
Uh, if that's ever happened
before in America, I've never seen it.
947
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:00,384
But what was it?
Was it cocaine?
948
00:52:00,408 --> 00:52:01,594
What does it look like
inside right now?
949
00:52:01,618 --> 00:52:03,866
It was not in his briefcase.
950
00:52:03,908 --> 00:52:06,366
They do not allege
it was in his briefcase.
951
00:52:06,408 --> 00:52:09,158
I've read the complaint, and I was
in court, and you weren't.
952
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,033
- Steve, what does it look like inside?
- Wait a minute.
953
00:52:12,075 --> 00:52:14,783
We have to fight
to get a lawyer into this place.
954
00:52:14,825 --> 00:52:16,700
I came in through the front door
to get in.
955
00:52:16,741 --> 00:52:19,741
The first time I had
trouble getting in.
956
00:52:21,576 --> 00:52:23,158
One piece I billed him.
957
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,408
- That's a piece...
- One piece of the bill. Come on...
958
00:52:25,450 --> 00:52:27,283
Steve, what is the reaction...
959
00:52:27,325 --> 00:52:30,116
- What about the cocaine?
- I don't know anything about that.
960
00:52:30,158 --> 00:52:31,594
I really don't know
anything about that.
961
00:52:31,618 --> 00:52:33,176
Are there any other drugs
on the premises?
962
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:34,920
I don't know anything
about any other drugs.
963
00:52:34,950 --> 00:52:37,051
Did you know anything about drugs
on the premises this time?
964
00:52:37,075 --> 00:52:39,325
No, I didn't.
Absolutely not.
965
00:52:39,366 --> 00:52:40,759
What was your reaction
when you heard
966
00:52:40,783 --> 00:52:43,491
that your partner had been
arrested for cocaine?
967
00:52:43,533 --> 00:52:46,700
I-I-I'm very fond of Ian.
968
00:52:46,741 --> 00:52:49,325
We went to college together.
We met in college.
969
00:52:49,366 --> 00:52:51,991
He's a good guy.
And of course I was upset.
970
00:52:52,033 --> 00:52:54,450
Was coke use common
at Studio 54?
971
00:52:54,491 --> 00:52:56,283
No, I like...
What Roy said...
972
00:52:56,325 --> 00:52:57,783
I don't wanna really comment
973
00:52:57,825 --> 00:52:59,991
on anything to do with
that legal case of it,
974
00:53:00,033 --> 00:53:01,325
but, uh, you know...
975
00:53:01,366 --> 00:53:03,408
What?
976
00:53:03,450 --> 00:53:06,158
-Steve, look this way, please.
Thank you.
977
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,450
I feel like the president today.
978
00:53:14,576 --> 00:53:17,366
We had had every great lawyer
979
00:53:17,408 --> 00:53:18,908
working for us.
980
00:53:18,950 --> 00:53:21,533
You know, we had had
one of the lawyers
981
00:53:21,576 --> 00:53:24,116
that had represented
John Mitchell on Watergate.
982
00:53:24,158 --> 00:53:25,700
We had James Neal,
983
00:53:25,741 --> 00:53:28,533
who had sent
Jimmy Hoffa to jail.
984
00:53:28,576 --> 00:53:31,866
We had had Arthur Liman.
We had had Mitchell Rogovin,
985
00:53:31,908 --> 00:53:33,991
who was part of Arnold & Porter,
986
00:53:34,033 --> 00:53:35,283
where Abe Fortas came from,
987
00:53:35,325 --> 00:53:37,200
and he was
a Supreme Court Justice.
988
00:53:37,241 --> 00:53:38,576
We'd circled the wagon,
989
00:53:38,618 --> 00:53:40,618
and we got ready
to fight the government.
990
00:53:40,660 --> 00:53:44,116
There are, incidentally,
37 lawyers
991
00:53:44,158 --> 00:53:46,660
working on behalf
of Schrager and Rubell.
992
00:53:46,700 --> 00:53:49,325
When they were raided,
993
00:53:49,366 --> 00:53:52,866
it was real Schadenfreude
here in New York City.
994
00:53:52,908 --> 00:53:55,866
They'd finally got what was
coming to them, people felt.
995
00:53:55,908 --> 00:53:57,991
They had their loyal friends,
996
00:53:58,033 --> 00:54:00,491
but nobody was running around
with their head in their hands.
997
00:54:00,533 --> 00:54:03,200
"Oh, poor Steve Rubell,
poor Ian Schrager"...
998
00:54:03,241 --> 00:54:05,491
None of that happened.
People kind of liked it.
999
00:54:05,533 --> 00:54:08,576
And now, following up
on the Studio 54 story,
1000
00:54:08,618 --> 00:54:10,825
is Weekend Update
correspondent Laraine Newman
1001
00:54:10,866 --> 00:54:12,158
outside Studio 54.
1002
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:13,700
- Laraine?
- Thank you, Bill.
1003
00:54:13,741 --> 00:54:16,491
Standing next to me
is Steve Rubell,
1004
00:54:16,533 --> 00:54:17,866
co-owner of the club.
1005
00:54:19,325 --> 00:54:21,576
Steve, what was your reaction
1006
00:54:21,618 --> 00:54:24,866
when you learned cocaine
had been found here?
1007
00:54:24,908 --> 00:54:27,033
I was shocked.
1008
00:54:27,075 --> 00:54:30,241
It was more of, you know,
1009
00:54:30,283 --> 00:54:35,283
taking on the institution,
taking on the system,
1010
00:54:35,325 --> 00:54:38,741
which was all part
of the Studio 54 mystique.
1011
00:54:38,783 --> 00:54:40,700
And I think everybody
rallied around,
1012
00:54:40,741 --> 00:54:42,450
and there was
a party after that.
1013
00:54:44,533 --> 00:54:47,075
The notoriety was like
a moth to a flame.
1014
00:54:47,116 --> 00:54:49,116
And everybody came,
and it got even bigger.
1015
00:54:50,741 --> 00:54:53,866
Which controversy,
uh, sometimes does.
1016
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:10,908
A lot of people say,
1017
00:55:10,950 --> 00:55:12,991
"Well, Rubell was
shooting off his mouth
1018
00:55:13,033 --> 00:55:15,241
about don't tell the IRS this
1019
00:55:15,283 --> 00:55:16,866
and don't tell the IRS that."
1020
00:55:16,908 --> 00:55:18,366
That was not it.
1021
00:55:18,408 --> 00:55:20,158
This case came about
1022
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:24,158
strictly because, uh,
an informant, who was
1023
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:28,450
very unhappy with his
treatment at Studio 54...
1024
00:55:30,116 --> 00:55:33,241
and knew where
the records were kept.
1025
00:55:33,283 --> 00:55:36,700
The basement had a drop ceiling.
1026
00:55:36,741 --> 00:55:38,618
And if you remove
the ceiling tiles,
1027
00:55:38,660 --> 00:55:40,700
that's where we found
the manila envelopes
1028
00:55:40,741 --> 00:55:43,200
that were, in effect,
the second set of books.
1029
00:55:43,241 --> 00:55:45,825
Also,
up there in garbage bags...
1030
00:55:45,866 --> 00:55:47,950
plastic garbage bags...
there was cash.
1031
00:55:47,991 --> 00:55:50,366
Absolutely never
any millions of dollars
1032
00:55:50,408 --> 00:55:52,618
in the ceiling of Studio 54.
1033
00:55:52,660 --> 00:55:55,660
That's, uh, just folklore.
1034
00:55:55,700 --> 00:55:59,241
They took down bags of cash,
1035
00:55:59,283 --> 00:56:01,991
which had been particularly described
in the search warrant.
1036
00:56:02,033 --> 00:56:04,116
It was, like, five
combinations, and you had to...
1037
00:56:04,158 --> 00:56:06,200
It's like, "Oh, man,
this is a pain in the neck.
1038
00:56:06,241 --> 00:56:07,908
The guys are all
dying for quarters,
1039
00:56:07,950 --> 00:56:09,217
so I'll keep the quarters
up top."
1040
00:56:09,241 --> 00:56:10,991
That's as simple as it was.
1041
00:56:11,033 --> 00:56:13,825
That was the "money
in the ceiling" story.
1042
00:56:22,491 --> 00:56:24,825
There was also cash
1043
00:56:24,866 --> 00:56:27,283
in a safe-deposit box
that belonged to Steve Rubell
1044
00:56:27,325 --> 00:56:28,825
that we got a warrant for.
1045
00:56:28,866 --> 00:56:30,783
We drilled the box.
We got cash out of there.
1046
00:56:30,825 --> 00:56:34,491
There was also cash
in his apartment.
1047
00:56:34,533 --> 00:56:37,200
There were secret doors
behind bookcases.
1048
00:56:37,241 --> 00:56:42,825
Steve had 900,000 in cash,
5s and 10s, stacked.
1049
00:56:42,866 --> 00:56:45,533
The Feds came, took all of that.
1050
00:56:45,576 --> 00:56:47,158
I was driving around
1051
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,200
with $400,000
in the trunk of my car.
1052
00:56:50,241 --> 00:56:53,741
It could've been stolen.
It could've been towed.
1053
00:56:53,783 --> 00:56:56,491
I mean,
I was parking in garages.
1054
00:56:56,533 --> 00:56:58,075
It was ridiculous.
1055
00:57:02,366 --> 00:57:03,908
At Studio,
1056
00:57:03,950 --> 00:57:05,783
Steve's mother
was the bookkeeper.
1057
00:57:05,825 --> 00:57:10,783
And Steve always had a budget
for recreational drugs.
1058
00:57:10,825 --> 00:57:14,741
He would give them for free
to certain people.
1059
00:57:14,783 --> 00:57:17,075
Steve's mother didn't know
anything about the drugs
1060
00:57:17,116 --> 00:57:18,533
and what the codes were,
1061
00:57:18,576 --> 00:57:21,700
but she knew where
every penny was going.
1062
00:57:21,741 --> 00:57:24,075
If there was $100 taken out
1063
00:57:24,116 --> 00:57:26,783
to get a celebrity
a drug or whatever,
1064
00:57:26,825 --> 00:57:28,660
it was recorded
as a "party favor."
1065
00:57:28,700 --> 00:57:30,325
So it had everything in there.
1066
00:57:32,576 --> 00:57:34,408
There was one envelope.
1067
00:57:34,450 --> 00:57:37,700
On the outside of the envelope
were three columns:
1068
00:57:37,741 --> 00:57:39,950
"Ian," "Steve" and "Jack."
1069
00:57:39,991 --> 00:57:42,741
And then there was
a fourth column,
1070
00:57:42,783 --> 00:57:46,576
which was the total amount
of the take for that night.
1071
00:57:46,618 --> 00:57:48,325
And then there was
a fifth column
1072
00:57:48,366 --> 00:57:49,741
that was labeled "skim,"
1073
00:57:49,783 --> 00:57:52,908
"S-K-I-M," or "SK."
1074
00:57:52,950 --> 00:57:56,116
So that you had a daily record
1075
00:57:56,158 --> 00:57:59,075
of everything that they took in
1076
00:57:59,116 --> 00:58:02,200
and what they took out as skim
and didn't report.
1077
00:58:02,241 --> 00:58:04,533
Who created those books?
1078
00:58:08,283 --> 00:58:12,283
I didn't, uh, 'cause I
wasn't the bookkeeper
1079
00:58:12,325 --> 00:58:14,618
or taking care of the books.
1080
00:58:14,660 --> 00:58:17,533
But one of us did. I... I...
1081
00:58:17,576 --> 00:58:21,908
Who instructed that
those books be created?
1082
00:58:21,950 --> 00:58:25,200
You know, I... I...
I don't remember...
1083
00:58:27,283 --> 00:58:29,408
You sure you're not
a prosecutor here?
1084
00:58:29,450 --> 00:58:31,660
I, um...
1085
00:58:31,700 --> 00:58:35,283
You know, all I know was
that I got the benefit of it,
1086
00:58:35,325 --> 00:58:39,200
and I was a co-conspirator,
1087
00:58:39,241 --> 00:58:42,618
and, you know...
1088
00:58:42,660 --> 00:58:45,450
But, you know, the actual,
you know, workings and all...
1089
00:58:45,491 --> 00:58:47,241
I don't...
I don't know who did it.
1090
00:58:52,325 --> 00:58:54,783
In the 33 months
that they were doing it,
1091
00:58:54,825 --> 00:58:56,741
I think there was skim
of two and half
1092
00:58:56,783 --> 00:58:58,450
or three million dollars...
1093
00:58:58,491 --> 00:59:00,325
an astronomical amount to skim,
1094
00:59:00,366 --> 00:59:02,991
which was ridiculous.
1095
00:59:03,033 --> 00:59:06,783
I mean, if you're gonna skim,
you know, skim 10% or twent...
1096
00:59:06,825 --> 00:59:08,533
You know, not 80%.
1097
00:59:08,576 --> 00:59:12,158
They were really, you know,
pigs about it.
1098
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,533
Well, this was
the Richard Nixon of skims.
1099
00:59:14,576 --> 00:59:18,116
We just went way over
and way beyond, you know,
1100
00:59:18,158 --> 00:59:23,033
anything that was even remotely
possible to go unnoticed.
1101
00:59:24,741 --> 00:59:27,908
Steve Rubell and Ian Schrager
1102
00:59:27,950 --> 00:59:30,491
are totally
and completely innocent
1103
00:59:30,533 --> 00:59:33,366
of this claim
for additional taxes
1104
00:59:33,408 --> 00:59:37,158
or any kind of evasion of taxes.
1105
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:40,075
Cohn charges there was
only one partner to blame
1106
00:59:40,116 --> 00:59:41,825
for the troubles of Studio 54...
1107
00:59:41,866 --> 00:59:43,176
that's the man
who keeps the books.
1108
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:44,366
His name is Jack Dushey.
1109
00:59:44,408 --> 00:59:45,908
He secretly pleaded guilty
1110
00:59:45,950 --> 00:59:47,200
to charges last week,
1111
00:59:47,241 --> 00:59:48,450
and he now faces
1112
00:59:48,491 --> 00:59:50,660
up to five years in prison.
1113
00:59:50,700 --> 00:59:55,158
Jack Dushey agreed
to cooperate and to testify
1114
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,366
against Rubell and Schrager
in the grand jury
1115
00:59:58,408 --> 01:00:02,825
and at the trial,
if one was necessary.
1116
01:00:05,033 --> 01:00:08,533
What happened wasn't his fault.
1117
01:00:08,576 --> 01:00:11,450
He had a whole family.
He would've never done it.
1118
01:00:13,450 --> 01:00:15,660
- I never asked him that.
- No.
1119
01:00:15,700 --> 01:00:18,660
But that's what I've,
uh, always felt.
1120
01:00:20,576 --> 01:00:22,200
Were you...
Jack, were you resentful...
1121
01:00:22,241 --> 01:00:23,576
It was very difficult
1122
01:00:23,618 --> 01:00:27,700
to put reins
on the success, you know?
1123
01:00:27,741 --> 01:00:30,533
Who am I? First of all,
I was older than them.
1124
01:00:30,576 --> 01:00:33,325
And, you know,
I didn't need the money.
1125
01:00:33,366 --> 01:00:37,033
I wasn't doing it
for the money. But, uh,
1126
01:00:37,075 --> 01:00:39,741
this was
an overwhelming success,
1127
01:00:39,783 --> 01:00:44,741
so I wasn't about
to try to harness them.
1128
01:00:44,783 --> 01:00:48,491
And, you know, you know,
we all paid the price.
1129
01:00:51,241 --> 01:00:53,033
I mean, but did you know
1130
01:00:53,075 --> 01:00:56,366
what was going on
in the counting house?
1131
01:00:56,408 --> 01:00:59,075
Oh, I was right
in the middle of it.
1132
01:00:59,116 --> 01:01:01,366
Yeah, I was right
in the middle of it.
1133
01:01:03,325 --> 01:01:07,991
I was just as culpable as,
you know, Steve and Ian.
1134
01:01:09,576 --> 01:01:11,741
But you seem so level-headed.
1135
01:01:11,783 --> 01:01:14,618
Why do you think
you let that happen?
1136
01:01:14,660 --> 01:01:16,491
Oh, the success.
1137
01:01:16,533 --> 01:01:18,618
- The success went to everybody's head.
- Yeah.
1138
01:01:24,660 --> 01:01:27,116
I was assigned
1139
01:01:27,158 --> 01:01:30,241
to the Organized Crime
Strike Force,
1140
01:01:30,283 --> 01:01:33,283
which deals mostly
with organized crime.
1141
01:01:33,325 --> 01:01:36,825
In particular, at that time,
the Italian Mafia.
1142
01:01:36,866 --> 01:01:38,950
The Studio 54 case...
1143
01:01:38,991 --> 01:01:41,991
there was a supposed connection
1144
01:01:42,033 --> 01:01:45,283
to organized crime
through Ian Schrager,
1145
01:01:45,325 --> 01:01:49,325
whose father was Louis Schrager,
1146
01:01:49,366 --> 01:01:53,450
also colloquially known
as Max the Jew.
1147
01:01:55,533 --> 01:01:58,491
I've always heard
all these things
1148
01:01:58,533 --> 01:02:00,908
about my father
in the newspapers,
1149
01:02:00,950 --> 01:02:03,866
and I didn't really know
anything about it.
1150
01:02:03,908 --> 01:02:05,660
I idolized my father.
1151
01:02:05,700 --> 01:02:08,991
I knew he was different
than other fathers,
1152
01:02:09,033 --> 01:02:11,283
you know,
with his hours of work,
1153
01:02:11,325 --> 01:02:12,783
and I was always concerned
1154
01:02:12,825 --> 01:02:15,241
that that would be
a problem for me.
1155
01:02:15,283 --> 01:02:18,116
I was always
very sensitive to that.
1156
01:02:18,158 --> 01:02:21,491
Louis Schrager,
who had died at the time,
1157
01:02:21,533 --> 01:02:24,408
was an old
Meyer Lansky associate.
1158
01:02:26,576 --> 01:02:28,991
But we never found any evidence
1159
01:02:29,033 --> 01:02:33,116
that Studio 54 had a Mafia link.
1160
01:02:33,158 --> 01:02:35,116
I definitely think that Ian
1161
01:02:35,158 --> 01:02:37,950
didn't want any part
of his father's business
1162
01:02:37,991 --> 01:02:39,991
or connections or anything.
1163
01:02:40,033 --> 01:02:42,825
I mean, his father was
successful at what he did.
1164
01:02:42,866 --> 01:02:44,991
His father had power.
1165
01:02:45,033 --> 01:02:47,783
And I think
that Ian wanted power
1166
01:02:47,825 --> 01:02:51,325
and success in a different area.
1167
01:02:54,700 --> 01:02:57,576
The three owners and the manager
of the Studio 54 disco
1168
01:02:57,618 --> 01:03:00,075
were indicted today
on charges of income tax evasion.
1169
01:03:00,116 --> 01:03:01,491
Steve Rubell and Ian Schrager
1170
01:03:01,533 --> 01:03:03,450
were slapped
with a 12-count indictment...
1171
01:03:03,491 --> 01:03:05,325
Now Ian Schrager
and Steve Rubell
1172
01:03:05,366 --> 01:03:07,283
face up to ten years in prison
1173
01:03:07,325 --> 01:03:09,618
and fines up to $20,000.
1174
01:03:11,950 --> 01:03:15,200
They had this ball of fire
1175
01:03:15,241 --> 01:03:18,576
that nobody in the world had.
1176
01:03:18,618 --> 01:03:20,158
They had this... this thing
1177
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,741
that was worldwide popular
1178
01:03:22,783 --> 01:03:24,991
that had fallen into their laps,
1179
01:03:25,033 --> 01:03:27,075
and I don't think
they wanted to lose that.
1180
01:03:30,075 --> 01:03:31,660
During one of the meetings,
1181
01:03:31,700 --> 01:03:33,660
the lawyers kept saying,
"Well, you know,
1182
01:03:33,700 --> 01:03:35,741
you have to try
and trade something."
1183
01:03:36,991 --> 01:03:38,825
It was August 25th.
1184
01:03:38,866 --> 01:03:40,908
I remember Steve telling me,
1185
01:03:40,950 --> 01:03:42,825
"I hope there's
a war in Iran."
1186
01:03:42,866 --> 01:03:45,176
I said, "What are you talking about?"
He said, "I just don't...
1187
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:46,825
"There's a story
that's gonna break,
1188
01:03:46,866 --> 01:03:48,700
and I just don't
want it to be big."
1189
01:03:48,741 --> 01:03:50,325
The Justice Department
1190
01:03:50,366 --> 01:03:52,700
is investigating an allegation
1191
01:03:52,741 --> 01:03:56,241
that White House Chief of Staff
Hamilton Jordan used cocaine
1192
01:03:56,283 --> 01:03:59,660
during a visit to New York's Studio 54
discotheque last year.
1193
01:03:59,700 --> 01:04:02,533
The White House
flatly denies the allegations,
1194
01:04:02,576 --> 01:04:04,991
saying the people making them
have a clear interest
1195
01:04:05,033 --> 01:04:07,325
in making false
and sensational charges
1196
01:04:07,366 --> 01:04:09,908
so they can bargain
for lighter sentences.
1197
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,908
To accuse the White House
Chief of Staff
1198
01:04:15,950 --> 01:04:17,450
of asking to buy cocaine
1199
01:04:17,491 --> 01:04:19,741
in the basement of Studio 54...
1200
01:04:19,783 --> 01:04:21,366
I mean, didn't Steve realize
1201
01:04:21,408 --> 01:04:24,116
he now is gonna have
the White House against him?
1202
01:04:24,158 --> 01:04:27,991
I thought Steve better
be really careful.
1203
01:04:28,033 --> 01:04:30,825
These people are powerful.
He doesn't have any power.
1204
01:04:30,866 --> 01:04:33,950
He's a nightlife person.
His power is among celebrities,
1205
01:04:33,991 --> 01:04:36,283
it's not among the politicos.
1206
01:04:36,325 --> 01:04:40,200
He definitely messed
with the wrong people.
1207
01:04:40,241 --> 01:04:42,576
President Carter's
comment about Jordan was
1208
01:04:42,618 --> 01:04:43,908
"He will tell the truth,
1209
01:04:43,950 --> 01:04:45,741
as my wife would
or my children."
1210
01:04:45,783 --> 01:04:47,660
While the Justice Department
1211
01:04:47,700 --> 01:04:49,491
would not ordinarily
pursue a case
1212
01:04:49,533 --> 01:04:51,491
involving individual use
of the drug,
1213
01:04:51,533 --> 01:04:53,491
it's compelled
to do so on this case
1214
01:04:53,533 --> 01:04:56,283
because of a new law called
the Ethics in Government Act.
1215
01:04:56,325 --> 01:04:59,116
That law grew out
of the Watergate scandals.
1216
01:04:59,158 --> 01:05:02,825
It requires an investigation
of up to 90 days by the FBI
1217
01:05:02,866 --> 01:05:04,450
when criminal allegations
are made
1218
01:05:04,491 --> 01:05:06,660
against high-ranking
government officials.
1219
01:05:06,700 --> 01:05:08,741
One of the lawyers,
Mitchell Rogovin,
1220
01:05:08,783 --> 01:05:10,908
made a really fatal mistake
1221
01:05:10,950 --> 01:05:12,950
and hurt us.
1222
01:05:12,991 --> 01:05:15,491
He didn't understand
1223
01:05:15,533 --> 01:05:18,366
how Watergate changed the law.
1224
01:05:18,408 --> 01:05:20,450
It became very public.
1225
01:05:20,491 --> 01:05:24,408
The train left the station
and took a life of its own.
1226
01:05:24,450 --> 01:05:26,200
There was no turning back.
1227
01:05:26,241 --> 01:05:27,866
You saw, with your own eyes,
1228
01:05:27,908 --> 01:05:29,450
Hamilton Jordan use cocaine?
1229
01:05:29,491 --> 01:05:30,533
Yes.
1230
01:05:30,576 --> 01:05:31,700
- No question?
- No question.
1231
01:05:31,741 --> 01:05:33,158
- No mistake?
- No.
1232
01:05:35,991 --> 01:05:37,450
We didn't realize the magnitude
1233
01:05:37,491 --> 01:05:39,200
of what was going on.
1234
01:05:39,241 --> 01:05:40,342
We had this thing of, you know,
1235
01:05:40,366 --> 01:05:41,741
"We'll get out of it.
1236
01:05:41,783 --> 01:05:43,783
"You know, we got Roy there,
but, you know,
1237
01:05:43,825 --> 01:05:46,991
we'll figure out a way
and get a way out of it."
1238
01:05:47,033 --> 01:05:52,533
We even went and did a major
renovation in the club,
1239
01:05:52,576 --> 01:05:55,450
like a signal to everyone...
it's gonna be fine.
1240
01:05:58,408 --> 01:06:00,158
What do you do
1241
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:01,920
when you're under indictment
for tax evasion
1242
01:06:01,950 --> 01:06:03,950
and fighting Hamilton Jordan
in your spare time?
1243
01:06:03,991 --> 01:06:05,408
Well, you can
create a new image...
1244
01:06:05,450 --> 01:06:07,158
architecturally, at least.
1245
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,200
600 workers
on round-the-clock shifts
1246
01:06:09,241 --> 01:06:10,926
have been laboring since last
Wednesday to put it all together,
1247
01:06:10,950 --> 01:06:12,533
and when they're finished,
1248
01:06:12,576 --> 01:06:15,325
it's expected to cost
$1 1/2 million...
1249
01:06:15,366 --> 01:06:16,783
three times what it cost
1250
01:06:16,825 --> 01:06:18,366
to open Studio 54
three years ago.
1251
01:06:18,408 --> 01:06:20,618
♪ More, more, more ♪
1252
01:06:20,660 --> 01:06:23,075
♪ How do you like it,
how do you like it? ♪
1253
01:06:23,116 --> 01:06:25,200
♪ More, more, more ♪
1254
01:06:25,241 --> 01:06:27,741
♪ How do you like it,
how do you like it? ♪
1255
01:06:27,783 --> 01:06:30,283
Ian had all these magical ideas.
1256
01:06:30,325 --> 01:06:31,991
He'd seen Sweeney Todd,
1257
01:06:32,033 --> 01:06:34,283
and he got this idea
to do a bridge.
1258
01:06:34,325 --> 01:06:35,950
Tired of fighting your way
1259
01:06:35,991 --> 01:06:37,576
through the crowded dance floor?
1260
01:06:37,618 --> 01:06:38,950
Well, this moving bridge
1261
01:06:38,991 --> 01:06:40,467
ought to be able
to solve that problem.
1262
01:06:40,491 --> 01:06:42,408
It can carry 25 tons in weight
1263
01:06:42,450 --> 01:06:44,660
and will be able
to move 250 people
1264
01:06:44,700 --> 01:06:46,033
over the heads of the dancers
1265
01:06:46,075 --> 01:06:47,366
to the other side of the room
1266
01:06:47,408 --> 01:06:48,783
or to the balcony
1267
01:06:48,825 --> 01:06:51,533
at the speed
of 45 feet a minute.
1268
01:06:51,576 --> 01:06:53,158
Of course, the story goes
1269
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:54,866
that they had to
cover the balcony
1270
01:06:54,908 --> 01:06:58,116
in rubber so they could
wash it down more easily.
1271
01:06:58,158 --> 01:07:00,950
Were you aware that you
were creating a sex pit?
1272
01:07:00,991 --> 01:07:02,950
♪ ...how I really feel? ♪
1273
01:07:02,991 --> 01:07:04,259
♪ Just get the cameras
rolling... ♪
1274
01:07:04,283 --> 01:07:05,408
Yes.
1275
01:07:07,991 --> 01:07:10,116
♪ More, more, more ♪
1276
01:07:10,158 --> 01:07:12,660
♪ How do you like it,
how do you like it? ♪
1277
01:07:12,700 --> 01:07:14,700
♪ More, more, more ♪
1278
01:07:14,741 --> 01:07:16,783
♪ How do you like it,
how do you like it? ♪
1279
01:07:16,825 --> 01:07:19,866
I love Studio 54 so much,
and I thank you
1280
01:07:19,908 --> 01:07:22,325
for making all my evenings
a lot more fun.
1281
01:07:22,366 --> 01:07:24,158
Ah, what can I say?
1282
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:25,618
Oh, just say "thank you."
1283
01:07:25,660 --> 01:07:27,618
Plead guilty
to charges of flattery.
1284
01:07:27,660 --> 01:07:30,241
I don't plead guilty
to any charges.
1285
01:07:32,491 --> 01:07:33,991
Two owners
1286
01:07:34,033 --> 01:07:36,991
of the trendy Manhattan
discotheque Studio 54
1287
01:07:37,033 --> 01:07:39,158
pleaded guilty today
of defrauding the government
1288
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:42,033
of more than $400,000 in taxes.
1289
01:07:42,075 --> 01:07:44,783
Today, Rubell
and his partner Ian Schrager
1290
01:07:44,825 --> 01:07:47,200
were charged with skimming
$2 1/2 million
1291
01:07:47,241 --> 01:07:48,950
from the receipts of Studio 54
1292
01:07:48,991 --> 01:07:50,366
and lying about it.
1293
01:07:50,408 --> 01:07:52,033
12 counts in all.
1294
01:07:52,075 --> 01:07:54,408
They admitted
to two counts of tax evasion.
1295
01:07:54,450 --> 01:07:57,158
The government dropped the rest.
1296
01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:59,783
We didn't want to plead
guilty to a felony
1297
01:07:59,825 --> 01:08:02,033
because you can't have
a liquor license
1298
01:08:02,075 --> 01:08:03,991
if you're convicted of a felony.
1299
01:08:04,033 --> 01:08:06,450
So this whole thing
was to protect Studio,
1300
01:08:06,491 --> 01:08:09,408
but it just got out of control.
1301
01:08:09,450 --> 01:08:11,116
We were out of our league,
1302
01:08:11,158 --> 01:08:13,991
and we were forced
to plea to a felony.
1303
01:08:14,033 --> 01:08:16,991
Come on down a little bit.
1304
01:08:17,033 --> 01:08:18,825
Well, Roy, did anything go wrong
1305
01:08:18,866 --> 01:08:21,283
with the plea bargaining?
1306
01:08:21,325 --> 01:08:24,366
Listen, when you have
about 37 lawyers
1307
01:08:24,408 --> 01:08:25,991
involved in anything,
1308
01:08:26,033 --> 01:08:29,618
uh, something's always
gonna go wrong.
1309
01:08:29,660 --> 01:08:31,576
- Steven...
- What made you do it?
1310
01:08:31,618 --> 01:08:33,325
Was it greed?
1311
01:08:33,366 --> 01:08:35,075
- Too much money too fast?
- No.
1312
01:08:35,116 --> 01:08:36,801
I made a mistake.
Did you ever make a mistake?
1313
01:08:36,825 --> 01:08:38,408
Why did you make
that kind of mistake?
1314
01:08:38,450 --> 01:08:40,259
Are you and Schrager
still friendly after this?
1315
01:08:40,283 --> 01:08:43,491
He's my best friend.
I love him dearly.
1316
01:08:46,991 --> 01:08:48,450
When we got in trouble,
1317
01:08:48,491 --> 01:08:49,741
the press,
1318
01:08:49,783 --> 01:08:51,408
you know, turned on us.
1319
01:08:52,991 --> 01:08:54,700
It was the first time,
1320
01:08:54,741 --> 01:08:56,301
you know, in my life
and in Steve's life,
1321
01:08:56,325 --> 01:08:58,033
we couldn't talk
our way out of it.
1322
01:08:58,075 --> 01:08:59,576
It was like
we couldn't shake it.
1323
01:09:01,576 --> 01:09:04,158
Things seemed to be
closing in on us.
1324
01:09:06,533 --> 01:09:08,241
When you go through
something like that,
1325
01:09:08,283 --> 01:09:12,700
uh, it either makes you
closer and stronger,
1326
01:09:12,741 --> 01:09:14,700
or it tears you apart.
1327
01:09:14,741 --> 01:09:17,116
In our case,
it made us stronger.
1328
01:09:19,408 --> 01:09:22,033
We rose and fell together.
1329
01:09:25,991 --> 01:09:27,533
A federal judge today
1330
01:09:27,576 --> 01:09:29,991
sentenced Steven Rubell
and Ian Schrager,
1331
01:09:30,033 --> 01:09:33,075
owners of the New York
discotheque Studio 54,
1332
01:09:33,116 --> 01:09:35,075
to three and a half
years in prison
1333
01:09:35,116 --> 01:09:37,908
for evading almost half a million
dollars in income taxes.
1334
01:09:37,950 --> 01:09:42,200
He also fined each man $20,000.
1335
01:09:42,241 --> 01:09:45,741
It didn't hit me. You know?
1336
01:09:45,783 --> 01:09:50,158
There was a complete
emotional detachment.
1337
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:52,576
I was numb.
1338
01:09:52,618 --> 01:09:54,741
Our life was over,
1339
01:09:54,783 --> 01:09:56,200
and we didn't even know.
1340
01:10:03,158 --> 01:10:06,408
The party, the night
before they went to jail,
1341
01:10:06,450 --> 01:10:09,908
was probably as exciting
1342
01:10:09,950 --> 01:10:12,618
and as much fun
as the opening party,
1343
01:10:12,660 --> 01:10:15,533
It may have been more fun.
1344
01:10:18,908 --> 01:10:20,866
Andy Warhol as there,
1345
01:10:20,908 --> 01:10:22,491
Calvin Klein.
1346
01:10:22,533 --> 01:10:24,325
Diana Ross sang.
1347
01:10:24,366 --> 01:10:26,408
Liza Minnelli sang, too.
1348
01:10:29,866 --> 01:10:32,618
What I distinctly remember,
Steve was wearing, like,
1349
01:10:32,660 --> 01:10:34,700
a Frank Sinatra hat,
1350
01:10:34,741 --> 01:10:36,783
and they played
"I Did it My Way."
1351
01:10:36,825 --> 01:10:38,408
"My Way"...
1352
01:10:38,450 --> 01:10:40,660
What does that mean, "my way"?
1353
01:10:40,700 --> 01:10:44,618
When I look back at it now,
it is so preposterous.
1354
01:10:44,660 --> 01:10:48,700
-What were we thinking?
♪ Don't leave me this way ♪
1355
01:10:48,741 --> 01:10:50,576
♪ Ahh ♪
1356
01:10:50,618 --> 01:10:52,491
♪ Baby ♪
1357
01:10:52,533 --> 01:10:56,533
♪ My heart is full of love
and desire for you ♪
1358
01:10:56,576 --> 01:11:00,158
♪ Now come on down
and do what you gotta do ♪
1359
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:04,033
That night, the music
was still intense,
1360
01:11:04,075 --> 01:11:06,158
the dancing was still intense,
1361
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:08,576
and it was fabulous.
1362
01:11:08,618 --> 01:11:10,491
♪ Come on, satisfy
the need in me ♪
1363
01:11:10,533 --> 01:11:12,491
Partying that night, I remember
1364
01:11:12,533 --> 01:11:14,033
all I wanted to do was dance.
1365
01:11:14,075 --> 01:11:15,950
And I was so high on drugs,
1366
01:11:15,991 --> 01:11:18,660
I really didn't realize
what was going on.
1367
01:11:18,700 --> 01:11:21,241
I mean, I didn't think
the party was gonna end.
1368
01:11:21,283 --> 01:11:23,741
♪ Ohh, baby ♪
1369
01:11:23,783 --> 01:11:25,408
That feeling of invincibility
1370
01:11:25,450 --> 01:11:27,408
permeated the whole process.
1371
01:11:27,450 --> 01:11:29,866
♪ Don't leave me this way ♪
1372
01:11:29,908 --> 01:11:31,660
♪ Don't leave me this way, no ♪
1373
01:11:31,700 --> 01:11:33,618
♪ Don't leave me
this way, no ♪
1374
01:11:33,660 --> 01:11:35,491
♪ Don't leave me
this way, baby ♪
1375
01:11:35,533 --> 01:11:37,366
♪ Don't leave me ♪
1376
01:11:37,408 --> 01:11:39,366
♪ Don't leave me
this way, baby ♪
1377
01:11:39,408 --> 01:11:41,366
It was enormous denial,
1378
01:11:41,408 --> 01:11:42,825
you know, from beginning to end.
1379
01:11:44,908 --> 01:11:46,660
I'm not sure
I would've made a party
1380
01:11:46,700 --> 01:11:50,283
to celebrate the fact I'm
going to jail the next day.
1381
01:11:50,325 --> 01:11:52,783
I don't think
they prepared at all,
1382
01:11:52,825 --> 01:11:55,618
and I think it was
the actual going to jail
1383
01:11:55,660 --> 01:11:58,908
was just a terrific
shock for them.
1384
01:11:58,950 --> 01:12:00,783
Stand right there.
Thank you.
1385
01:12:00,825 --> 01:12:02,075
The owners of New York's
1386
01:12:02,116 --> 01:12:03,991
flashy discotheque Studio 54
1387
01:12:04,033 --> 01:12:06,116
surrendered to federal
authorities today.
1388
01:12:06,158 --> 01:12:07,908
They reported this morning
1389
01:12:07,950 --> 01:12:10,200
at the Federal Metropolitan
Correctional Center.
1390
01:12:10,241 --> 01:12:11,950
Meanwhile,
the State Liquor Authority
1391
01:12:11,991 --> 01:12:14,283
has filed seven charges
against the disco.
1392
01:12:24,866 --> 01:12:27,033
What was that first night like
1393
01:12:27,075 --> 01:12:28,866
at the Metropolitan
House of Corrections
1394
01:12:28,908 --> 01:12:30,283
here in New York City?
1395
01:12:30,325 --> 01:12:33,033
Well, uh, the doors closed,
1396
01:12:33,075 --> 01:12:35,200
and when those doors close,
1397
01:12:35,241 --> 01:12:37,283
it's amazing how quickly
1398
01:12:37,325 --> 01:12:42,241
you, um, just realize
you lost your freedom.
1399
01:12:42,283 --> 01:12:44,700
There's nothing
worse in the world.
1400
01:12:44,741 --> 01:12:46,075
We didn't share a cell.
1401
01:12:46,116 --> 01:12:48,283
We were in the same jail.
1402
01:12:48,325 --> 01:12:51,700
And that's something
that we both wanted, obviously.
1403
01:12:51,741 --> 01:12:54,408
We couldn't guarantee that.
1404
01:12:54,450 --> 01:12:57,009
I don't know what it would've been if I
didn't have the benefit of having Steve there.
1405
01:12:57,033 --> 01:12:59,700
We were treated just
like everybody else, not unfairly.
1406
01:12:59,741 --> 01:13:01,636
- They didn't care that you were with Liza...
- No.
1407
01:13:01,660 --> 01:13:04,051
- ...and Bianca and all those stars?
- Oh, that's another world.
1408
01:13:04,075 --> 01:13:05,866
It's how it is.
You just have to learn
1409
01:13:05,908 --> 01:13:08,116
to keep your mouth shut
and not say a world.
1410
01:13:08,158 --> 01:13:11,450
If you say a word,
you're, uh... you're dead.
1411
01:13:11,491 --> 01:13:16,825
There was a guy that lived
across the hall from me
1412
01:13:16,866 --> 01:13:20,866
and who had killed somebody
with a bowling ball.
1413
01:13:20,908 --> 01:13:22,908
Um, and so I right away thought
1414
01:13:22,950 --> 01:13:25,366
that was a good guy
to get friendly with.
1415
01:13:25,408 --> 01:13:27,533
I made a deal with him
1416
01:13:27,576 --> 01:13:31,200
that we would give his wife
money on the outside
1417
01:13:31,241 --> 01:13:33,116
and he would protect us.
1418
01:13:35,158 --> 01:13:37,991
You know,
it was just a base instinct
1419
01:13:38,033 --> 01:13:40,116
to survive in... in there.
1420
01:13:44,408 --> 01:13:46,241
After they went to jail,
1421
01:13:46,283 --> 01:13:47,741
we had another couple of months.
1422
01:13:47,783 --> 01:13:49,467
But it was never the same
after, you know...
1423
01:13:49,491 --> 01:13:51,116
without Steve and Ian.
1424
01:13:51,158 --> 01:13:52,991
And then, when we lost
the liquor license,
1425
01:13:53,033 --> 01:13:55,825
there wasn't much we could do.
1426
01:13:55,866 --> 01:13:58,241
It was in prison
1427
01:13:58,283 --> 01:14:01,533
that, uh, you know,
we sold Studio 54.
1428
01:14:01,576 --> 01:14:05,741
And I was negotiating
the contract,
1429
01:14:05,783 --> 01:14:08,116
and that kept my sanity.
1430
01:14:09,700 --> 01:14:12,200
But selling Studio
1431
01:14:12,241 --> 01:14:14,618
was the hardest thing
I ever had to do.
1432
01:14:48,366 --> 01:14:49,825
The whole thing,
1433
01:14:49,866 --> 01:14:52,158
it was like a vortex
of, you know...
1434
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:55,283
It was all just
going down the tubes,
1435
01:14:55,325 --> 01:14:57,325
and everybody just faded back
1436
01:14:57,366 --> 01:14:58,825
to where they came from.
1437
01:15:00,741 --> 01:15:02,783
You really feel
like all these people
1438
01:15:02,825 --> 01:15:04,660
are really gonna be
your friends for life.
1439
01:15:04,700 --> 01:15:07,200
They love you. And then
you really find out,
1440
01:15:07,241 --> 01:15:08,509
well, that's really not the case
1441
01:15:08,533 --> 01:15:09,660
at all, you know?
1442
01:15:09,700 --> 01:15:10,908
The phone calls stop coming.
1443
01:15:10,950 --> 01:15:12,408
The, you know, the, uh,
1444
01:15:12,450 --> 01:15:15,408
the invitations
to great parties stop coming.
1445
01:15:15,450 --> 01:15:17,866
All those things just stop,
and that was, uh,
1446
01:15:17,908 --> 01:15:21,366
that was, uh, that was
a rude awakening for me.
1447
01:15:24,408 --> 01:15:26,408
The disco era was over.
1448
01:15:28,241 --> 01:15:29,741
Disco music became a joke.
1449
01:15:32,283 --> 01:15:35,408
It was billed as Teen Night
at Comiskey Park.
1450
01:15:35,450 --> 01:15:38,618
The feature attraction was a disc
demolition between games.
1451
01:15:38,660 --> 01:15:40,783
Local radio morning man
Steve Dahl
1452
01:15:40,825 --> 01:15:42,283
is to lead the crowd in song,
1453
01:15:42,325 --> 01:15:43,866
and then finish
by blowing up a box
1454
01:15:43,908 --> 01:15:45,241
full of disco records
1455
01:15:45,283 --> 01:15:46,759
which the fans
were to bring with them
1456
01:15:46,783 --> 01:15:48,325
to the ballpark.
1457
01:15:52,158 --> 01:15:54,660
"Disco Sucks"
was almost a backlash
1458
01:15:54,700 --> 01:15:56,491
against Studio 54, in a way.
1459
01:15:56,533 --> 01:16:01,241
You think about the economic
situation in America.
1460
01:16:01,283 --> 01:16:04,075
It was the worst
financial recession
1461
01:16:04,116 --> 01:16:06,116
since the Great Depression.
1462
01:16:06,158 --> 01:16:08,366
And you think
about what Studio 54
1463
01:16:08,408 --> 01:16:10,491
and what disco life looked like
1464
01:16:10,533 --> 01:16:13,075
to somebody
working in the Midwest
1465
01:16:13,116 --> 01:16:16,200
who had now lost their job
and is never coming back.
1466
01:16:16,241 --> 01:16:18,576
You know, you blame it
on all these people.
1467
01:16:18,618 --> 01:16:20,241
You blame it on gay people,
1468
01:16:20,283 --> 01:16:22,323
you blame it on black people,
you blame it on women.
1469
01:16:24,116 --> 01:16:28,991
There was this
ground-swelling resentment.
1470
01:16:29,033 --> 01:16:30,825
People, you know,
1471
01:16:30,866 --> 01:16:32,200
were pissed off.
1472
01:16:33,576 --> 01:16:35,533
We upset the status quo.
1473
01:16:35,576 --> 01:16:37,991
We knew Rubell and Schrager
could help us
1474
01:16:48,366 --> 01:16:51,450
and could give us
more income tax evasion cases
1475
01:16:51,491 --> 01:16:54,116
against other people
that they knew
1476
01:16:54,158 --> 01:16:55,741
who were doing the same thing.
1477
01:16:57,991 --> 01:17:02,950
So we devised the great
Chinese food scenario.
1478
01:17:05,908 --> 01:17:08,783
The U.S. Attorney's office is
on the border of Chinatown,
1479
01:17:08,825 --> 01:17:12,033
and the IRS agents know
all the good places to eat, trust me.
1480
01:17:12,075 --> 01:17:17,408
So they ordered a slew
of different Chinese dishes,
1481
01:17:17,450 --> 01:17:20,116
and I had Steve and Ian
brought over,
1482
01:17:20,158 --> 01:17:23,033
and I had two chairs set out
just outside my office
1483
01:17:23,075 --> 01:17:26,700
so that the smell was kind of wafting
out into the hall.
1484
01:17:26,741 --> 01:17:29,491
And they're looking at it,
and they're...
1485
01:17:29,533 --> 01:17:31,033
you know, they're hungry.
1486
01:17:31,075 --> 01:17:33,618
We really tried everything.
1487
01:17:38,075 --> 01:17:40,950
We were under
all kinds of pressure.
1488
01:17:40,991 --> 01:17:44,200
The government
had all our records.
1489
01:17:44,241 --> 01:17:47,408
It isn't as if, you know,
we named names,
1490
01:17:47,450 --> 01:17:50,408
but we would've
had to perjure ourselves
1491
01:17:50,450 --> 01:17:53,866
if we didn't answer questions
about the nightclub owners
1492
01:17:53,908 --> 01:17:57,366
of Bonds, Infinity,
1493
01:17:57,408 --> 01:17:59,866
and New York-New York
at the time.
1494
01:17:59,908 --> 01:18:01,866
They were, like,
kind of our enemies.
1495
01:18:01,908 --> 01:18:04,491
You know, we, uh,
1496
01:18:04,533 --> 01:18:05,825
always suspected
1497
01:18:05,866 --> 01:18:08,660
that those guys were out
to hurt us anyways,
1498
01:18:08,700 --> 01:18:12,075
so it was a kind of...
1499
01:18:12,116 --> 01:18:14,533
easy way to rationalize that,
I suppose.
1500
01:18:14,576 --> 01:18:17,908
But my father
wouldn't have, uh...
1501
01:18:17,950 --> 01:18:20,660
- have liked this.
- Why?
1502
01:18:20,700 --> 01:18:24,618
You know, because just,
that's not something you do.
1503
01:18:24,660 --> 01:18:30,116
You know, um,
do your time like a man.
1504
01:18:30,158 --> 01:18:32,450
Wouldn't be something
that he would, uh,
1505
01:18:32,491 --> 01:18:34,783
you know, want...
want... want me to do.
1506
01:18:37,283 --> 01:18:40,283
- And did that weigh upon you?
- Of course.
1507
01:18:40,325 --> 01:18:42,950
I had problems.
I still have problems,
1508
01:18:42,991 --> 01:18:44,618
and I'm still embarrassed
about it.
1509
01:18:44,660 --> 01:18:46,033
It's one of the things,
1510
01:18:46,075 --> 01:18:48,533
uh, I was hoping
you wouldn't get into.
1511
01:18:48,576 --> 01:18:50,700
But I, you know...
1512
01:18:50,741 --> 01:18:52,075
I, um...
1513
01:18:53,950 --> 01:18:57,908
It's, uh, just part
of the story, I suppose.
1514
01:19:05,491 --> 01:19:08,450
We couldn't stay in prison
for three and a half years,
1515
01:19:08,491 --> 01:19:11,408
so we did what we had to do
1516
01:19:11,450 --> 01:19:12,950
and got a reduced sentence.
1517
01:19:23,241 --> 01:19:26,741
When we got out of prison
in 1981,
1518
01:19:26,783 --> 01:19:28,366
it was a whole different world.
1519
01:19:52,241 --> 01:19:54,991
Governor Reagan,
we just wanted to show you
1520
01:19:55,033 --> 01:19:56,825
what the map of
the United States looks like
1521
01:19:56,866 --> 01:19:58,408
as of 8:00 tonight.
1522
01:19:58,450 --> 01:20:00,241
- Hey!
- All yours!
1523
01:20:06,576 --> 01:20:08,991
You had a different
administration in the early '80s,
1524
01:20:09,033 --> 01:20:10,866
and suddenly it was
all about making money.
1525
01:20:10,908 --> 01:20:13,366
It wasn't about abandon,
it wasn't about equalization,
1526
01:20:13,408 --> 01:20:17,491
it was about massive,
obvious success,
1527
01:20:17,533 --> 01:20:19,325
and a dollar über alles.
1528
01:20:21,533 --> 01:20:24,116
Downtown became more downtown.
1529
01:20:24,158 --> 01:20:26,116
The Mudd Club
really became dominant
1530
01:20:26,158 --> 01:20:31,325
in protest against the yuppies
and the Reagan administration.
1531
01:20:35,991 --> 01:20:37,866
Getting out of jail,
1532
01:20:37,908 --> 01:20:40,533
we were both really,
really, really sensitive,
1533
01:20:40,576 --> 01:20:43,491
both unsure of ourselves.
1534
01:20:43,533 --> 01:20:47,533
You know, that's a devastation
that's hard to explain.
1535
01:20:47,576 --> 01:20:49,783
You lose everything.
1536
01:20:49,825 --> 01:20:52,660
You know, I lost my law license.
1537
01:20:52,700 --> 01:20:54,491
I couldn't vote.
1538
01:20:54,533 --> 01:20:58,660
Even a driver's license,
your credit card...
1539
01:20:58,700 --> 01:21:00,366
So I'm disenfranchised.
1540
01:21:00,408 --> 01:21:02,408
It's... You know,
you don't realize,
1541
01:21:02,450 --> 01:21:05,241
till you can't,
what it means to you.
1542
01:21:05,283 --> 01:21:08,450
And the shame of it.
That was the real thing.
1543
01:21:08,491 --> 01:21:10,509
One of the things, I guess,
that's a little bothersome
1544
01:21:10,533 --> 01:21:12,116
is that there is no stigma
1545
01:21:12,158 --> 01:21:13,950
attached to the fact
that you did jail time.
1546
01:21:13,991 --> 01:21:15,967
Oh, but there is a st...
There isn't a day that goes by
1547
01:21:15,991 --> 01:21:17,325
when I don't think about it.
1548
01:21:17,366 --> 01:21:18,825
-Okay.
An emotional stigma.
1549
01:21:18,866 --> 01:21:21,158
It's emotional.
Until about a year ago,
1550
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:24,618
I had dreams that I was on an island
and I couldn't get off.
1551
01:21:24,660 --> 01:21:26,783
And the nightmares...
I would wake up soaked.
1552
01:21:26,825 --> 01:21:29,368
And, uh, it's something
you don't get over.
1553
01:21:29,530 --> 01:21:30,283
Fair enough.
1554
01:21:30,325 --> 01:21:33,576
Steve was kind of tentative,
because he didn't know
1555
01:21:33,618 --> 01:21:36,408
the way people were gonna
be reacting to him.
1556
01:21:36,450 --> 01:21:37,783
Just that they didn't know
1557
01:21:37,825 --> 01:21:39,366
if they could trust him
1558
01:21:39,408 --> 01:21:41,783
after the Hamilton Jordan
and everything.
1559
01:21:41,825 --> 01:21:45,366
Yeah, the price of being
a success, you know, uh...
1560
01:21:45,408 --> 01:21:46,783
you know, is easy.
1561
01:21:46,825 --> 01:21:48,700
Price of being a failure
is difficult.
1562
01:21:48,741 --> 01:21:49,866
I went through both.
1563
01:21:49,908 --> 01:21:51,283
That was probably
1564
01:21:51,325 --> 01:21:53,033
the most difficult
moment of their life,
1565
01:21:53,075 --> 01:21:55,283
wondering if they
would ever emerge.
1566
01:21:55,325 --> 01:21:57,366
In a sense, they had
nothing to lose early on.
1567
01:21:57,408 --> 01:21:58,825
They had nothing.
1568
01:21:58,866 --> 01:22:00,283
Everything was an improvement.
1569
01:22:00,325 --> 01:22:01,700
It was fine.
1570
01:22:01,741 --> 01:22:04,866
Coming back, that was courage.
1571
01:22:04,908 --> 01:22:07,825
Ian's not gonna give up.
1572
01:22:07,866 --> 01:22:10,033
Stevie, in his own way,
isn't gonna give up.
1573
01:22:10,075 --> 01:22:12,825
They both had the same DNA
1574
01:22:12,866 --> 01:22:15,866
when they went in
and when they got out.
1575
01:22:15,908 --> 01:22:17,908
They'll take on any challenge.
1576
01:22:17,950 --> 01:22:20,158
- And they did.
- I mean, I believe
1577
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:22,866
they were plotting
a comeback in prison.
1578
01:22:22,908 --> 01:22:24,700
Of course.
The day they got in,
1579
01:22:24,741 --> 01:22:27,051
they were thinking about what
we're gonna do when we get out.
1580
01:22:27,075 --> 01:22:28,700
Despite Rubell's plans,
1581
01:22:28,741 --> 01:22:30,825
post-prison reality was harsh.
1582
01:22:30,866 --> 01:22:32,325
It took three years
1583
01:22:32,366 --> 01:22:33,991
before the two could
find the capital
1584
01:22:34,033 --> 01:22:35,660
to finance their next venture.
1585
01:22:35,700 --> 01:22:37,491
A string of luxury hotels
that cater
1586
01:22:37,533 --> 01:22:39,866
to the same
kind of eclectic crowd
1587
01:22:39,908 --> 01:22:41,533
that used to hang out
at Studio 54.
1588
01:22:41,576 --> 01:22:43,158
They immediately began
1589
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:44,660
channeling their efforts
1590
01:22:44,700 --> 01:22:46,825
into purchasing
prime Manhattan real estate,
1591
01:22:46,866 --> 01:22:49,576
becoming part owners
in several chic hotels,
1592
01:22:49,618 --> 01:22:51,033
including the Royalton
1593
01:22:51,075 --> 01:22:53,283
and Morgan's Hotel
on Madison Avenue.
1594
01:22:53,325 --> 01:22:56,618
We wanted to be in
the hotel business.
1595
01:22:56,660 --> 01:22:58,950
But we had to prove to the banks
1596
01:22:58,991 --> 01:23:01,908
that we could borrow
$14 million and pay it back.
1597
01:23:01,950 --> 01:23:03,533
So that was the reason
1598
01:23:03,576 --> 01:23:06,700
why we opened up
Palladium nightclub.
1599
01:23:06,741 --> 01:23:09,033
The bald, the brave,
1600
01:23:09,075 --> 01:23:11,450
and the beautiful
came out tonight
1601
01:23:11,491 --> 01:23:13,618
for the opening
of the Palladium.
1602
01:23:13,660 --> 01:23:15,540
It's an incredible thing
that with Steve and Ian
1603
01:23:15,576 --> 01:23:17,700
out of the picture
for six or seven years,
1604
01:23:17,741 --> 01:23:18,825
really nothing's
1605
01:23:18,866 --> 01:23:20,366
come along to replace them.
1606
01:23:20,408 --> 01:23:21,783
And now they're back
1607
01:23:21,825 --> 01:23:23,408
and bigger and better than ever.
1608
01:23:23,450 --> 01:23:25,783
I had hesitations
about everything I did
1609
01:23:25,825 --> 01:23:27,241
because I had made a mistake,
1610
01:23:27,283 --> 01:23:29,158
and I had not felt
so great about myself
1611
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:30,283
for a while.
1612
01:23:30,325 --> 01:23:31,783
I got a second chance,
1613
01:23:31,825 --> 01:23:33,825
and you couldn't
ask for anything more.
1614
01:23:37,075 --> 01:23:39,366
When we did the Palladium,
1615
01:23:39,408 --> 01:23:42,033
this was the first
press piece we got,
1616
01:23:42,075 --> 01:23:43,450
called "The Comeback Kids,"
1617
01:23:43,491 --> 01:23:45,450
where I came out
from the shadows.
1618
01:23:45,491 --> 01:23:50,158
The story was, uh...
as much on me
1619
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:52,200
as it was on Steve.
1620
01:23:52,241 --> 01:23:54,283
Steve was a little bit
upset about it,
1621
01:23:54,325 --> 01:23:57,576
and the story
disrupted that balance
1622
01:23:57,618 --> 01:24:01,741
that existed between Steve
and I all those years
1623
01:24:01,783 --> 01:24:03,866
in terms of him being out there
1624
01:24:03,908 --> 01:24:06,075
getting all...
all of the attention
1625
01:24:06,116 --> 01:24:09,200
and me being in the background
and not getting any.
1626
01:24:09,241 --> 01:24:10,866
It was a new dynamic.
1627
01:24:10,908 --> 01:24:13,241
I remember it took him
a little while
1628
01:24:13,283 --> 01:24:14,991
to... to... to get over it.
1629
01:24:19,158 --> 01:24:21,116
We should point out,
for better or for worse,
1630
01:24:21,158 --> 01:24:22,576
Studio 54 is no longer.
1631
01:24:22,618 --> 01:24:24,200
Yeah. I read in the paper
the other day
1632
01:24:24,241 --> 01:24:25,576
it was just closed, but...
1633
01:24:25,618 --> 01:24:28,700
- How'd you feel about that?
- Um, I...
1634
01:24:28,741 --> 01:24:30,783
You know, I'm almost a little...
1635
01:24:30,825 --> 01:24:32,241
It's something of the past,
1636
01:24:32,283 --> 01:24:34,283
and I so do not want
to dwell on the past.
1637
01:24:34,325 --> 01:24:35,908
- Sure.
- The good or the bad.
1638
01:24:35,950 --> 01:24:38,158
I'm always futuristic
in what I can do next
1639
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:39,576
and what opportunities we can...
1640
01:24:39,618 --> 01:24:42,241
you know, that Ian and I
can come up with, and...
1641
01:24:42,283 --> 01:24:44,325
You know, life is so exciting.
1642
01:25:00,075 --> 01:25:01,866
So how did you find out
1643
01:25:01,908 --> 01:25:04,825
that Steve had contracted HIV?
1644
01:25:04,866 --> 01:25:06,408
I did a blood test.
1645
01:25:08,491 --> 01:25:13,366
Did you suspect that he
was becoming ill with that?
1646
01:25:13,408 --> 01:25:15,033
He had some symptoms.
1647
01:25:15,075 --> 01:25:19,366
Not of HIV, but there
were vague symptoms.
1648
01:25:19,408 --> 01:25:21,783
And I was the one
that told him he had AIDS, yeah.
1649
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:26,033
You have to remember,
AIDS, at that time...
1650
01:25:26,075 --> 01:25:27,450
it wasn't a disease.
1651
01:25:28,866 --> 01:25:30,950
It was a condemnation.
1652
01:25:30,991 --> 01:25:35,116
And so he wouldn't let me
tell our parents.
1653
01:25:35,158 --> 01:25:37,783
He held it together, and...
1654
01:25:37,825 --> 01:25:40,950
I'm sure he didn't hold it
together after I left,
1655
01:25:40,991 --> 01:25:42,158
but he held it together.
1656
01:25:44,741 --> 01:25:47,533
Everybody was getting sick.
1657
01:25:47,576 --> 01:25:51,283
It was frightening, and...
1658
01:25:51,325 --> 01:25:55,950
if I'm still emotionally
affected by it,
1659
01:25:55,991 --> 01:25:58,200
the loss was profound.
1660
01:26:01,908 --> 01:26:05,283
All these young guys
were just fading away.
1661
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:13,700
Half the bartenders...
1662
01:26:15,366 --> 01:26:18,450
you know, half the people
that did the sets...
1663
01:26:18,491 --> 01:26:21,158
the kids that painted,
1664
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:22,700
they're not with us anymore.
1665
01:26:24,866 --> 01:26:26,200
It was devastating.
1666
01:26:28,866 --> 01:26:33,950
The impact that these people
had on the community,
1667
01:26:33,991 --> 01:26:38,075
on the culture,
on New York City...
1668
01:26:38,116 --> 01:26:40,283
such an incredible loss.
1669
01:26:40,325 --> 01:26:43,450
Culturally,
it changed everything.
1670
01:26:47,700 --> 01:26:49,660
Steve was the kind of guy
that, you know,
1671
01:26:49,700 --> 01:26:52,158
if he did something
the night before
1672
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:54,200
that might've been
a little embarrassing,
1673
01:26:54,241 --> 01:26:56,366
you would see him
the next morning,
1674
01:26:56,408 --> 01:26:57,926
and he would act
like nothing happened,
1675
01:26:57,950 --> 01:26:59,884
and get away with it, and that
would be the end of it,
1676
01:26:59,908 --> 01:27:01,259
whereas somebody
might come into the room
1677
01:27:01,283 --> 01:27:02,594
with their tail
between their legs,
1678
01:27:02,618 --> 01:27:04,116
terribly embarrassed.
1679
01:27:04,158 --> 01:27:06,450
So Steve was always able
to get away with it.
1680
01:27:06,491 --> 01:27:09,158
This one thing
he didn't get away with.
1681
01:27:18,991 --> 01:27:21,158
Steve Rubell
changed the look, the feel,
1682
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:22,908
and the pace
of New York's nightlife
1683
01:27:22,950 --> 01:27:25,618
when he opened up Studio 54
some years ago.
1684
01:27:25,660 --> 01:27:28,033
Well, Rubell died this morning
here in Manhattan
1685
01:27:28,075 --> 01:27:29,741
from complications of hepatitis.
1686
01:27:29,783 --> 01:27:31,700
Steve Rubell
died of complications
1687
01:27:31,741 --> 01:27:34,283
resulting from hepatitis
and septic shock.
1688
01:27:34,325 --> 01:27:35,660
Steve Rubell,
1689
01:27:35,700 --> 01:27:37,366
who died yesterday
of liver failure...
1690
01:27:37,408 --> 01:27:39,217
There were rumors
that Rubell succumbed to AIDS,
1691
01:27:39,241 --> 01:27:40,991
but the official word
is that he died
1692
01:27:41,033 --> 01:27:42,533
of hepatitis and septic shock.
1693
01:27:42,576 --> 01:27:44,325
He didn't want the press
1694
01:27:44,366 --> 01:27:46,991
to put in the obit
1695
01:27:47,033 --> 01:27:50,366
that he died
of complications of AIDS.
1696
01:27:50,408 --> 01:27:53,158
That was kept out.
1697
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:55,408
I wanted to, you know, make sure
1698
01:27:55,450 --> 01:27:57,450
everybody came to the funeral
1699
01:27:57,491 --> 01:27:59,408
because that's what
Steve would've wanted
1700
01:27:59,450 --> 01:28:01,033
was, like, a big send-off.
1701
01:28:01,075 --> 01:28:03,741
So I was on the phone
making calls
1702
01:28:03,783 --> 01:28:05,866
to make sure everybody
would, you know, would come.
1703
01:28:05,908 --> 01:28:07,866
The funeral
for that people person
1704
01:28:07,908 --> 01:28:10,700
turned out the chic
of New York City society.
1705
01:28:10,741 --> 01:28:13,116
From Calvin Klein
to Bianca Jagger
1706
01:28:13,158 --> 01:28:14,783
to his partner Ian Schrager,
1707
01:28:14,825 --> 01:28:16,866
who, at times, looked shaken.
1708
01:28:16,908 --> 01:28:19,283
Losing Steve was like
losing a family member.
1709
01:28:21,491 --> 01:28:23,408
So it was a very difficult day,
1710
01:28:23,450 --> 01:28:25,325
and a very difficult time.
I think it hit...
1711
01:28:25,366 --> 01:28:27,325
Every one of our Studio family
1712
01:28:27,366 --> 01:28:29,408
who knew him felt the same way.
1713
01:28:32,158 --> 01:28:33,783
After the brief service,
1714
01:28:33,825 --> 01:28:35,950
some from Rubell's past
said they saw his death
1715
01:28:35,991 --> 01:28:38,618
as emblematic
of the passing of an era.
1716
01:28:38,660 --> 01:28:41,491
He gave a magic to the city,
1717
01:28:41,533 --> 01:28:44,576
and the city always needs magic.
1718
01:28:44,618 --> 01:28:47,533
And it always finds
its, uh, marker,
1719
01:28:47,576 --> 01:28:49,991
and Steve was it
for an awful lot of years.
1720
01:28:51,576 --> 01:28:53,158
Steve Rubell dead
1721
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:54,533
at 45.
1722
01:28:58,660 --> 01:29:00,660
Ann... Mrs. Rubell...
said to me,
1723
01:29:00,700 --> 01:29:02,825
"Why didn't Steve
ever get married?"
1724
01:29:02,866 --> 01:29:04,866
And I realized then
that I'm not sure
1725
01:29:04,908 --> 01:29:07,908
that she really knew
that he was gay.
1726
01:29:07,950 --> 01:29:10,908
That was part of that time,
1727
01:29:10,950 --> 01:29:12,618
that time of maybe your mother
1728
01:29:12,660 --> 01:29:14,033
was the last to know.
1729
01:29:15,408 --> 01:29:18,618
Steve's death and his illness
1730
01:29:18,660 --> 01:29:23,116
had a huge impact on, um, Ian.
1731
01:29:23,158 --> 01:29:28,408
Their love for each other
and their bond was so strong,
1732
01:29:28,450 --> 01:29:31,075
um, that I think it...
1733
01:29:31,116 --> 01:29:34,660
it made an impact
for quite some time.
1734
01:29:52,908 --> 01:29:56,866
I met Steve...
I think I was 18 or 19...
1735
01:29:56,908 --> 01:29:59,033
and the friendship
blossomed right away,
1736
01:29:59,075 --> 01:30:00,700
and I was friendly with him
1737
01:30:00,741 --> 01:30:02,366
for all that time
right up to 1989.
1738
01:30:04,075 --> 01:30:07,158
I'm lucky that I had
one of those friendships.
1739
01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:09,283
Not many people, you know, do.
1740
01:30:11,491 --> 01:30:15,325
Steve and I
bought this house in 1985.
1741
01:30:15,366 --> 01:30:17,283
Has a lot of history,
this house.
1742
01:30:19,366 --> 01:30:22,576
It's like a family heirloom.
1743
01:30:22,618 --> 01:30:24,783
For that, it's quite beautiful.
1744
01:30:35,660 --> 01:30:37,660
How did
the death of your partner,
1745
01:30:37,700 --> 01:30:40,325
your best friend, affect you?
1746
01:30:40,366 --> 01:30:43,158
It was devastating.
It was a personal loss.
1747
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:47,116
Steve and I were really
like husband and wife.
1748
01:30:47,158 --> 01:30:48,991
I'm not sure
1749
01:30:49,033 --> 01:30:51,325
which one was the husband
and which one was the wife.
1750
01:30:53,576 --> 01:30:54,866
We vacationed together.
1751
01:30:54,908 --> 01:30:56,342
We shared a house
on Long Island together.
1752
01:30:56,366 --> 01:30:58,033
We worked together. We...
1753
01:30:58,075 --> 01:30:59,491
He was the last person
I talked to
1754
01:30:59,533 --> 01:31:00,783
when I went to sleep.
1755
01:31:00,825 --> 01:31:03,450
And so it was a personal loss,
1756
01:31:03,491 --> 01:31:06,283
uh, uh, uh,
more than anything else.
1757
01:31:06,325 --> 01:31:09,033
On the business end of it,
the same passion
1758
01:31:09,075 --> 01:31:12,491
that drove me while Steve was alive
still drove me.
1759
01:31:12,533 --> 01:31:13,908
I had the same hunger.
1760
01:31:13,950 --> 01:31:15,366
I still have
that same hunger now.
1761
01:31:15,408 --> 01:31:18,325
And so we just continued on.
1762
01:31:18,366 --> 01:31:21,116
It's not as much fun.
It's not as exhilarating.
1763
01:31:21,158 --> 01:31:22,991
I don't have someone
to share it with.
1764
01:31:23,033 --> 01:31:24,866
But we just...
you know, you go on.
1765
01:31:24,908 --> 01:31:26,618
Did you ever doubt
that you could do it?
1766
01:31:26,660 --> 01:31:28,980
Of course. I still doubt it.
I think that's what drives me.
1767
01:31:41,533 --> 01:31:43,491
It's not a surprise to me
1768
01:31:43,533 --> 01:31:46,075
that through all these years,
1769
01:31:46,116 --> 01:31:48,116
Ian has evolved
1770
01:31:48,158 --> 01:31:49,533
and reinvented himself
1771
01:31:49,576 --> 01:31:52,533
and taken that core of who he is
1772
01:31:52,576 --> 01:31:54,700
to where he is today.
1773
01:31:58,866 --> 01:32:03,283
I was trying to capture
energy in the hotels
1774
01:32:03,325 --> 01:32:05,660
in the same way
you might capture energy
1775
01:32:05,700 --> 01:32:07,450
on the streets of a city.
1776
01:32:07,491 --> 01:32:09,200
You know, there's an energy
1777
01:32:09,241 --> 01:32:11,618
that lifts everything,
1778
01:32:11,660 --> 01:32:13,618
a high tide that comes in.
1779
01:32:22,991 --> 01:32:25,450
That was the same thing
with Studio.
1780
01:32:32,908 --> 01:32:35,408
Studio just meant
everything to us,
1781
01:32:35,450 --> 01:32:37,408
what we had gone
through together.
1782
01:32:37,450 --> 01:32:39,241
Both of us ingrained
1783
01:32:39,283 --> 01:32:42,158
with that desire
to be successful.
1784
01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:44,158
I didn't get it as a lawyer,
1785
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:47,450
and he didn't get it
as a steak restaurateur,
1786
01:32:47,491 --> 01:32:50,200
but we both got it
together with Studio.
1787
01:32:59,283 --> 01:33:01,075
What they created,
1788
01:33:01,116 --> 01:33:04,450
nobody has come near since then.
1789
01:33:06,033 --> 01:33:07,991
You know,
there was a brevity to it.
1790
01:33:08,033 --> 01:33:11,200
There was a sense
of something lost.
1791
01:33:11,241 --> 01:33:12,950
Paradise lost.
1792
01:33:16,241 --> 01:33:19,908
I don't think they had any
idea what it would become,
1793
01:33:19,950 --> 01:33:23,450
that it would become
this world famous,
1794
01:33:23,491 --> 01:33:26,618
that it would be
important in our culture
1795
01:33:26,660 --> 01:33:29,325
and the history of New York City
1796
01:33:29,366 --> 01:33:31,450
and maybe significant
in the history
1797
01:33:31,491 --> 01:33:34,075
of what was going on
all around the world.
1798
01:33:40,783 --> 01:33:42,866
Studio wasn't a nightclub.
1799
01:33:42,908 --> 01:33:47,533
It was like a kind
of social experiment.
1800
01:33:47,576 --> 01:33:50,866
And that's why it's never
been able to be recreated.
1801
01:33:52,741 --> 01:33:55,950
It was fun... holding on
to a lightning bolt.
1802
01:35:01,450 --> 01:35:05,075
♪ What's the sense in sharing
this one and only life ♪
1803
01:35:05,116 --> 01:35:09,241
♪ Ending up just another
lost and lonely wife ♪
1804
01:35:09,283 --> 01:35:11,241
♪ You count up the years ♪
1805
01:35:11,283 --> 01:35:15,408
♪ And they will be
filled with tears ♪
1806
01:35:18,241 --> 01:35:21,825
♪ Love only breaks up
to start over again ♪
1807
01:35:21,866 --> 01:35:25,991
♪ You'll get the babies,
but you won't have your man ♪
1808
01:35:26,033 --> 01:35:32,200
♪ While he's busy loving
every woman that he can ♪
1809
01:35:32,241 --> 01:35:34,200
♪ Uh-huh ♪
1810
01:35:34,241 --> 01:35:38,450
♪ Say I'm gonna leave
a hundred times a day ♪
1811
01:35:38,491 --> 01:35:40,450
♪ It's easier
said than done ♪
1812
01:35:40,491 --> 01:35:42,576
♪ When you just
can't break away ♪
1813
01:35:42,618 --> 01:35:44,783
♪ When you just
can't break away ♪
1814
01:35:44,825 --> 01:35:49,283
♪ Oh, young hearts run free ♪
1815
01:35:49,325 --> 01:35:51,576
♪ They'll never be hung up ♪
1816
01:35:51,618 --> 01:35:55,283
♪ Hung up like my man and me ♪
1817
01:35:57,200 --> 01:35:59,491
♪ My man and me ♪
1818
01:36:01,450 --> 01:36:04,033
♪ Ooh, young hearts ♪
1819
01:36:04,075 --> 01:36:06,325
♪ To yourself be true ♪
1820
01:36:06,366 --> 01:36:12,241
♪ Don't be no fool when love
really don't love you ♪
1821
01:36:14,491 --> 01:36:16,075
♪ Don't love you ♪
1822
01:36:19,116 --> 01:36:22,866
♪ It's high time now,
just one crack at life ♪
1823
01:36:22,908 --> 01:36:26,866
♪ Who wants to live it
in trouble and strife? ♪
1824
01:36:26,908 --> 01:36:28,950
♪ My mind must be free ♪
1825
01:36:28,991 --> 01:36:33,033
♪ To learn all I can
about me ♪
1826
01:36:33,075 --> 01:36:35,450
♪ Mm-hmm ♪
1827
01:36:35,491 --> 01:36:39,408
♪ I'm gonna love me
for the rest of my days ♪
1828
01:36:39,450 --> 01:36:43,741
♪ Encourage the babies
every time they say ♪
1829
01:36:43,783 --> 01:36:49,408
♪ Self-preservation is what's
really going on today ♪
1830
01:36:52,116 --> 01:36:55,950
♪ Say I'm gonna turn loose
a thousand times a day ♪
1831
01:36:55,991 --> 01:36:58,033
♪ But how can I turn loose ♪
1832
01:36:58,075 --> 01:37:00,200
♪ When I just can't
break away? ♪
1833
01:37:00,241 --> 01:37:01,741
♪ When I just
can't break away ♪
1834
01:37:01,783 --> 01:37:06,325
♪ Oh, young hearts run free ♪
1835
01:37:06,366 --> 01:37:08,618
♪ They'll never be hung up ♪
1836
01:37:08,660 --> 01:37:12,825
♪ Hung up
like my man and me ♪
1837
01:37:14,950 --> 01:37:16,991
♪ You and me ♪
1838
01:37:17,033 --> 01:37:18,491
♪ Ohh ♪
1839
01:37:18,533 --> 01:37:20,908
♪ Ooh, young hearts ♪
1840
01:37:20,950 --> 01:37:23,158
♪ To yourself be true ♪
1841
01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:29,158
♪ Don't be no fool when love
really don't love you ♪
1842
01:37:31,325 --> 01:37:33,325
♪ Don't love you ♪
1843
01:37:42,366 --> 01:37:43,908
♪ Ohh ♪
1844
01:37:43,950 --> 01:37:47,660
♪ Young hearts run free ♪
1845
01:37:47,700 --> 01:37:50,033
♪ They'll never be hung up ♪
1846
01:37:50,075 --> 01:37:53,533
♪ Hung up
like my man and me ♪
1847
01:37:55,950 --> 01:37:58,366
♪ My man and me ♪
1848
01:37:58,408 --> 01:38:02,241
♪ Ohh
Ohh, young hearts ♪
1849
01:38:02,283 --> 01:38:04,533
♪ To yourself be true ♪
1850
01:38:04,576 --> 01:38:09,825
♪ Don't be no fool when love
really don't love you ♪
1851
01:38:12,408 --> 01:38:14,533
♪ It don't love you ♪
1852
01:38:14,576 --> 01:38:16,116
♪ Ohh ♪
1853
01:38:16,158 --> 01:38:20,618
♪ Ooh, young hearts run free ♪
1854
01:38:20,660 --> 01:38:22,991
♪ They'll never be hung up ♪
1855
01:38:23,033 --> 01:38:26,660
♪ Hung up
like my man and me ♪
1856
01:38:29,033 --> 01:38:31,366
♪ My man and me ♪
1857
01:38:31,408 --> 01:38:32,700
♪ Ohh ♪
1858
01:38:32,741 --> 01:38:35,158
♪ Oh, young hearts ♪
1859
01:38:35,200 --> 01:38:37,450
♪ To yourself be true ♪
1860
01:38:37,491 --> 01:38:42,783
♪ Don't be no fool when love
really don't love you ♪
1861
01:38:45,618 --> 01:38:47,325
♪ Don't love you ♪
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