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โช Too Big to Fail โช
Original Air Date on May 23, 2011
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We have no intention of dismantling
the regulatory agencies.
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However, we must
come to grips
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with inefficient
and burdensome regulations.
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We will eliminate those
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that are unproductiveand unnecessary.
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Tearing down
these antiquated walls
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and granting banks
significant new authority.
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In a victory forthe banking industry,
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Congress has approvedlegislation which will allow
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commercial andinvestment banks to merge
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and form institutions
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of unprecedented sizeand global reach.
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I think it's very important
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for us not to introduce
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regulation
for regulation's sake.
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I do believe
in the American dream.
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Owning a homeis a part of that dream.
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We are taking action
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to bring many thousandsof Americans
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closer to owninga home.
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This project
not only is good
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for the soul
of the country.
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It's good for the pocketbook
of the country as well.
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The housing market has reachedfrantic proportions.
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It seems that everybody isbuilding, buying or selling.
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The Dow and the S&Pboth breaking records,
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profits soared 93%at Goldman Sachs this year.
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Hotshot traders and bankerscan expect to take home
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$10, $25, and in some cases$50 million.
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Things that are too good
to be true, are.
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- When you see something coming--
- The real estate bubble.
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- Housing bubble--
- Bubble.
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--Don't put it off.take action immediately.
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Will there be a soft landing
or will the bubble burst?
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The new story--the mortgage meltdown.
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This morning in the mortgage
meltdown, new numbers showing
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that a record number of Americans
are losing their homes.
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More than 70 mortgage companies
have failed
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in the last few months
in America.
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and now the biggest of the big companies--
the Bear Stearns--
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the big banks are caught
holding the bag.
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The fifth largestinvestment bank in the country,
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Bear Stearns,is being sold
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for just $2 a shareto J.P. Morgan.
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It's being assisted
by the government
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which is stepping in
to guarantee some $30 billion
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in Bear's toxicreal estate assets.
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You've got to imagine
that Hank Paulson
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didn't think
he signed up for this
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when President Bush
picked him
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to becomeTreasury Secretary.
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Hank Paulson
may now have to undo
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some of the deregulation
measures
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that he and his peers
on Wall Street pushed through
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when he ran Goldman.
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Treasury SecretaryHank Paulson
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telling Matt Lauerthis morning
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"We're all over it. I've gotgreat confidence in our markets.
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They're resilient.
They're flexible."
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Ali, the truth isthat Bear Stearns is
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only a very small fraction
of this story.
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our economycould face
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far worsethan a recession.
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In the wake ofBear's collapse,
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Lehman Brothers is scramblingto reassure investors
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about the impactof the mortgage crisis
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on its own assets,
shares of the firm
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under a great deal
of pressure this morning.
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Dick Fuld, a 39-yearveteran of Lehman
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and the longest-running CEO of amajor investment bank on Wall Street,
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has pulled the firm back fromthe brink during other crises.
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But today, for the first timethat I'm hearing it,
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investors are questioninghis leadership.
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- Motherfucker.
- One key question investorshave for Lehman Brothers:
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What's the true earnings powerof this investment bank's business?
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Hey.
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Get up here.
We gotta start stacking sandbags.
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What are you
talking about?
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We're down 21%.
On paper,
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I just lost $90 million
personally.
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With investors pummelingLehman shares,
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the big questionthis morning is--
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what optionsdoes Fuld have?
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So far he has failedto raise new capital
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while virtually all of hisrivals have already done so.
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And now hedge fund managerDavid Einhorn
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is publicly questioning the accuracyof the firm's numbers.
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Anything good?
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It's a red-tailed hawk,
the first one this year.
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Dick Fuld's on one.
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They haven't been ableto provide credible answers.
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So let's go through
a couple of those
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what you call
discrepancies, because--
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Tough morning?
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We show top-quality earnings.
We beat every prediction.
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- Yeah.
- It's the damn short-sellers.
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You know the game--
short and distort.
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They're rumormongers.
And they're making a killing.
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What are your plans
for a capital raise?
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We're way ahead of you.
Now let me be clear:
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we don't need the cash.
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You know,
it's about perception.
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Buffett, Buffett.
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We're thinking of reaching out
to Warren Buffett.
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Great.
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You and Buffett
go back, right?
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Do me a favor
and call him.
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Tell him
Lehman is rock solid.
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As Treasury Secretary, I can't
advocate for a specific investment.
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Hank, you want me
to raise capital or not?
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Lehman Brothers is a hell ofa lot bigger than Bear Stearns.
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The marketis terrified.
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When I was running Goldman,
I never even conceived
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of asking the Treasury Secretary
to cut a deal for me.
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Yeah, but the Bear
bailout created--
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Please don't call it
a bailout.
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Okay, the very large Bear Stearns
purchase assistance package
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created an expectation.
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Fuld's counting on direct
intervention from you.
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Uh, Buffett's
a simple solution.
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I think
you make the call.
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As what?
Warren's friend?
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His former banker?
The ?
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No.
Fuld's calling him.
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Hopefully he'll jump in
and we can all relax.
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Relax? We just buried
one investment bank;
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We got another one
that's barely breathing.
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This is a confidence game.
People lose faith in Lehman--
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these banks are gonna
drop like dominos
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and I don't have the authority
to do a thing about it.
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We're late.
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We've been late
on everything.
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Neel's team is working on some
kind of a disaster scenario.
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We're calling it
the break-the-glass plan--
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what to ask Congress for
if your back's against the wall.
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Money...
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Is what you
ask them for.
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The problem is,
Congress won't move
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until we've already
hit the iceberg,
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and at that point
it may be too late.
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So you're saying,
with the full weight
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of the United States Treasury
behind me,
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all I can do is
call Warren Buffett?
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Hi, Warren.It's Hank.
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I understand you've been
talking to Dick Fuld.
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You know my
misgivings, Hank,
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about investment banks.
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As soon as they started
trading for themselves,
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the risk managers
lost control.
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I had a very unpleasant time
with Solomon Brothers.
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That's fair enough.
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But we both know
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that investment banking
is a profitable business.
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I figure it made you
a billionaire somewhat.
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I gotta believe that
if the price was right,
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you wouldn't
just walk away.
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You know a good deal
when you see one.
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What say you?
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I gotta leave that
to your judgment.
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People act like
we're crack dealers.
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Nobody put a gun
to anybody's head and said,
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"hey, Nimrod, buy a house
you can't afford.
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And you know what?
While you're at it,
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put a line of credit on that baby
and buy yourself a boat."
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You heard anything
from Buffett?
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He's asking for
preferred shares at 40
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with a dividend
of 9%.
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We were just at 66.
What the fuck?
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Maybe it's just
an opening gambit, Dick.
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Sounds more like
a goddamn insult.
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- Let me get that, Dick.
- Thank you.
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We're at 36 right now.
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We haven't been anywhere
near 66 in months.
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The markets
like Buffett.
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His name will push
the price up overnight.
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You know, I don't care
who he is,
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I am not spending
$360 million a year
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for the pleasure of doing
business with him.
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Real estate
will come back.
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The Koreans have been
sniffing around.
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There you go.
And they won't steal us blind.
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I've seen this before--
C.E.O.s panic and they sell out cheap.
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Right now the street's running
around with its hair on fire,
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but the storm
always passes.
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We stand strong,
and on the other side
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we'll eat
Goldman's lunch.
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So what do we do
about Buffett?
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Screw Warren Buffett.
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He passed?
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Lehman dropped to 28 1/2
this morning.
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What in the world
is he thinking?
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He's not thinking.
He's delusional.
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He thought the ask
was too high.
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He's got to raise cash.
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I told him that.
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I spoke to Greenspan.
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Really?
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He says there's too much
housing supply.
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That's the problem.
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So we should buy up
all the vacant houses
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and burn them.
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Dick needs a buyer--
someone with a grip on reality.
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Barclays expressed some interest
a couple of months ago,
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But I don't think
the price is low enough for them.
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Bank of America?
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Possible. Dick's put out
feelers there before.
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We have to keep it
quiet though.
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If anyone hears that
they're trying to sell...
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Lehman will be dead
within the hour.
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The real estate investments
are killing the firm.
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We have to admit publically
we've made some mistakes.
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We need to make
a senior management change,
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Signal to the market
that we get it.
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Meaning what?
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Meaning Joe Gregory.
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Get the fuck
out of here.
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You are not gonna tell me
how to run my company.
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Joe hasn't had your back on risk,
and everyone knows it.
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Erin Callan's
gotta go too.
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As far as the street's
concerned, she's a joke.
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Joe Gregory has been
with me
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for 30 years.
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And you want me
to kick him to the curb
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because we have
a bad quarter?
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It's not just
a bad quarter.
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The stock hit 23.
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23. Most of our guys are
paid in stock they can't sell for years.
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They've lost most of their net worth
over the last six months.
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You don't stabilize
the price,
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Your traders
are gonna jump ship.
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Selfish fucks.
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It's not just bankers
and traders, Dick.
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Clients are pulling
their money.
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There's gonna be a run
on this bank.
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Sources tell CNBC
that both
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Erin Callan and Joseph Gregory
are out at Lehman Brothers.
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In a statement, the company'schairman Dick Fuld said
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Replacing Gregory with48-year-old Bart McDade
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has been one of the mostdifficult decisions he's had to make.
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Dick, the Koreans just
arrived at Sullivan.
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Let's make this happen.
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My take is you'd be better off
staying here for now.
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We need you to be
our missing man.
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We'll go in and push
the deal as far as we can,
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And then we'll bring you in
at the end to top it off.
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All right, fine.
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Okay.
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We are committed
to our presence in New York.
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But we need to know that the
underlying numbers make sense.
251
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We realize
how things look.
252
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But our stock is gettinghammered by the shorts.
253
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The valueis still there.
254
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We just started.
Min is excited,
255
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but we haven't heard
the terms.
256
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Where are you?
257
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I just stepped out
to take the call.
258
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Get back in there.
Don't be rude.
259
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Okay.
260
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We simply take the assets
you don't find appealing,
261
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spin them off
into a separate company.
262
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- You don't buy that bank.
- I'm very sorry.
263
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You buy the good bank.
264
00:11:56,664 --> 00:11:58,530
They don't like
the real estate.
265
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What do you mean,
they don't like it?
266
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Dick, we're making
real progress here, okay?
267
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Let me stay on it
for now.
268
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Min, how are you?
269
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Great to see you.
270
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I don't want
to interrupt.
271
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Dick, great timing.
272
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We seem to be in sync on the
broad strokes of the deal.
273
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Shall we get back
to the letter of intent?
274
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Min, I have to
tell you,
275
00:12:36,833 --> 00:12:39,501
I think you're making
a big mistake here.
276
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There's great value
in the real estate assets.
277
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How about we walk
through the portfolio
278
00:12:45,372 --> 00:12:47,707
and I'll show you?
279
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We have looked at them.
280
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Well, then you--
281
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you must have looked at them
in the wrong way.
282
00:12:55,849 --> 00:12:59,517
I just don't want to see you
leave money on the table.
283
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Perhaps we should
take a break.
284
00:13:08,161 --> 00:13:10,262
Min, I'm so sorry.
285
00:13:10,296 --> 00:13:12,263
We have negotiated
in good faith.
286
00:13:12,298 --> 00:13:14,498
Now all of a sudden
we are going backward?
287
00:13:14,532 --> 00:13:16,098
We can work with you
on the price.
288
00:13:16,133 --> 00:13:18,033
It is not about
the price.
289
00:13:18,067 --> 00:13:21,168
It is about the way
you have conducted this.
290
00:13:26,772 --> 00:13:30,375
I'd like to thank you,
all of you,
291
00:13:30,409 --> 00:13:33,277
but I don't think we havea structure that works.
292
00:13:39,549 --> 00:13:41,595
What, that's it?
293
00:13:41,620 --> 00:13:43,685
You're just gonna pack up
and go back to Korea?
294
00:13:57,164 --> 00:13:59,265
- Hello.
- Neel, it's Dick Fuld.
295
00:13:59,300 --> 00:14:02,302
Listen, you know,
296
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if Hank wants me
to find a buyer,
297
00:14:04,238 --> 00:14:05,939
you guys need
to step up and help.
298
00:14:05,973 --> 00:14:08,275
The Koreans justwalked out, okay?
299
00:14:08,309 --> 00:14:10,277
Look, I'm just speaking
for myself here,
300
00:14:10,311 --> 00:14:12,879
but I think you need to do
what's right for the firm.
301
00:14:12,914 --> 00:14:14,514
Do what's right?
302
00:14:14,549 --> 00:14:16,249
What is that supposed
to mean?
303
00:14:16,284 --> 00:14:18,218
If your stock price
keeps sliding,
304
00:14:18,252 --> 00:14:21,254
you may get an offer at a price
that doesn't look all that compelling,
305
00:14:21,289 --> 00:14:24,091
but you may have to take it just
to keep the company intact.
306
00:14:24,125 --> 00:14:25,925
What kind of price
are you talking about?
307
00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,560
Could be--
308
00:14:27,594 --> 00:14:30,062
I mean, it might be
low single digits.
309
00:14:31,932 --> 00:14:34,366
Last February
310
00:14:34,401 --> 00:14:37,770
we were
at 66 a share.
311
00:14:37,804 --> 00:14:42,275
Lehman Brothers is not
bear stearns.
312
00:14:42,310 --> 00:14:44,110
We've got
a great business.
313
00:14:44,145 --> 00:14:46,012
Real estate's gonna
come back.
314
00:14:46,046 --> 00:14:49,248
I am not fucking
giving this company away!
315
00:14:49,282 --> 00:14:50,798
While the real estate market
316
00:14:50,823 --> 00:14:52,323
has put Lehman Brothers shares
under pressure,
317
00:14:52,353 --> 00:14:54,654
mortgage giants Fannie Mae
and Freddie Mac stocks
318
00:14:54,688 --> 00:14:57,223
are suddenly plummeting
this morning after reports
319
00:14:57,257 --> 00:14:59,960
the companies may need
to raise $75 billion
320
00:14:59,994 --> 00:15:03,163
just to remain solvent.
Because they guarantee
321
00:15:03,197 --> 00:15:05,599
such an enormous percentage
of the nation's mortgages,
322
00:15:05,634 --> 00:15:07,801
there is renewed speculation
that the government
323
00:15:07,836 --> 00:15:09,470
may have to step in
and take them over--
324
00:15:09,504 --> 00:15:13,840
a possibility Barack Obama hasnow raised on the campaign trail.
325
00:15:13,874 --> 00:15:16,176
If Fannie Mae and
Freddie Mac collapsed,
326
00:15:16,210 --> 00:15:19,912
then probably
the financial system
327
00:15:19,947 --> 00:15:22,348
would receive
such a body blow
328
00:15:22,382 --> 00:15:24,951
that it could be
disastrous.
329
00:15:24,985 --> 00:15:27,386
Freddie just
dropped another 8%.
330
00:15:27,420 --> 00:15:29,855
Fannie's down 5%.
331
00:15:29,889 --> 00:15:32,724
There's-- there's no
bottom here.
332
00:15:32,758 --> 00:15:35,960
We need to do
something now.
333
00:15:35,994 --> 00:15:37,928
We're working on
a proposal for Congress,
334
00:15:37,962 --> 00:15:40,464
see if we can get the authority
to put some money in.
335
00:15:40,498 --> 00:15:42,499
I'd rather not go
that way,
336
00:15:42,533 --> 00:15:44,800
but if we get there...
337
00:15:44,834 --> 00:15:47,702
Uh, I think--
I think we're already there.
338
00:15:49,504 --> 00:15:51,238
How much are yougonna ask for?
339
00:15:51,272 --> 00:15:52,873
A blank check.
340
00:15:52,907 --> 00:15:56,276
It has to be enough of a statement
to reassure the market.
341
00:15:56,310 --> 00:16:00,180
They need to think I've got
a bazooka in my pocket.
342
00:16:00,214 --> 00:16:02,182
I'm not saying
that we use it,
343
00:16:02,216 --> 00:16:04,183
but if we have
the authority,
344
00:16:04,218 --> 00:16:06,185
everyone who's dumping
their shares
345
00:16:06,219 --> 00:16:08,253
will calm down,
back off.
346
00:16:08,288 --> 00:16:10,255
Okay, well, if you're
going to Congress,
347
00:16:10,289 --> 00:16:12,023
why don't we give
to the banks too?
348
00:16:12,057 --> 00:16:14,291
'Cause Lehman is looking like shit
and Merrill's not far behind.
349
00:16:14,325 --> 00:16:17,127
We'll be lucky to get them to move
on Fannie and Freddie.
350
00:16:17,161 --> 00:16:19,529
We do what we can do.
351
00:16:30,471 --> 00:16:32,938
Secretary, Mrs. Paulson,
over here.
352
00:16:32,972 --> 00:16:36,007
Over here, please.
353
00:16:36,041 --> 00:16:38,576
Mr. and Mrs. Paulson.
354
00:16:38,611 --> 00:16:42,614
- Secretary Paulson.
- Mrs. Paulson. Thank you.
355
00:16:42,649 --> 00:16:44,316
Mrs. Paulson.
356
00:16:44,351 --> 00:16:46,185
Mr. Paulson.
357
00:16:46,219 --> 00:16:48,720
Mr. and Mrs. Paulson,this way, please.
358
00:16:52,289 --> 00:16:54,323
Mr. Secretary, please.
359
00:16:54,357 --> 00:16:56,192
I got her.
360
00:16:57,761 --> 00:17:00,129
Right over here,Secretary Paulson, please.
361
00:17:00,163 --> 00:17:02,030
Big smile.Thank you.
362
00:17:02,065 --> 00:17:04,599
That's just what I need--
press photos
363
00:17:04,633 --> 00:17:07,233
of the Treasury Secretary
waving the Chinese flag.
364
00:17:07,267 --> 00:17:09,767
Paulson the Communist.
365
00:17:09,802 --> 00:17:12,737
The look on your face
was priceless.
366
00:17:12,771 --> 00:17:17,276
Hank, I must ask you
about Fannie and Freddie.
367
00:17:19,679 --> 00:17:21,948
We have hundreds
of billions invested.
368
00:17:21,982 --> 00:17:25,018
You've assured us
the investment is safe.
369
00:17:25,052 --> 00:17:27,886
And it is,
absolutely.
370
00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,890
We're watching a great deal
of our money disappear.
371
00:17:31,924 --> 00:17:34,326
Share prices
have dropped 60%
372
00:17:34,360 --> 00:17:36,428
in the last
two months.
373
00:17:36,462 --> 00:17:39,163
Carrying your bazooka around
has not helped matters.
374
00:17:39,198 --> 00:17:41,665
Congress gave you
the power.
375
00:17:41,700 --> 00:17:43,467
Perhaps it is time
to use it.
376
00:17:43,501 --> 00:17:45,402
The market
will stabilize.
377
00:17:45,436 --> 00:17:47,303
We just have
to give it some time.
378
00:17:47,338 --> 00:17:51,174
There was an approach
last month from Russia.
379
00:17:51,208 --> 00:17:53,442
They have
considerable holdings
380
00:17:53,477 --> 00:17:55,144
in Fannie and Freddie
as well.
381
00:17:55,178 --> 00:17:57,979
They suggested
we coordinate
382
00:17:58,014 --> 00:18:00,048
and without warning dump
hundreds of billions
383
00:18:00,082 --> 00:18:02,416
of Fannie and Freddie's bonds
onto the market.
384
00:18:04,786 --> 00:18:06,453
That would be...
385
00:18:06,488 --> 00:18:08,488
Yes.
386
00:18:08,523 --> 00:18:11,558
The amount of debt
your country carries
387
00:18:11,592 --> 00:18:14,427
is a terrible
vulnerability.
388
00:18:18,397 --> 00:18:19,597
But you--
389
00:18:19,632 --> 00:18:22,900
we declined
respectfully.
390
00:18:25,303 --> 00:18:27,370
Even in the U.S.
it seems
391
00:18:27,405 --> 00:18:31,040
the relationship between the
government and private industry
392
00:18:31,075 --> 00:18:33,275
isn't so simple.
393
00:18:36,379 --> 00:18:38,046
Was it a threat?
394
00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,549
No no, it was
a friendly reminder
395
00:18:41,584 --> 00:18:43,551
that with a single
phone call to Moscow
396
00:18:43,586 --> 00:18:45,987
they can take down
the entire U.S. economy.
397
00:18:53,662 --> 00:18:56,297
Well, the book says
398
00:18:56,331 --> 00:18:58,366
Fannie and Freddie
are a nightmare.
399
00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,701
They are in the hole easily
tens of billions of dollars.
400
00:19:00,735 --> 00:19:03,503
In another few weeks they're
gonna start defaulting on their debts.
401
00:19:03,538 --> 00:19:05,004
We're gonna have to
step in.
402
00:19:05,039 --> 00:19:08,141
I don't see
how we can avoid it.
403
00:19:09,811 --> 00:19:11,912
Turns out a bazooka's
not that useful
404
00:19:11,946 --> 00:19:13,747
unless you fire it.
405
00:19:15,416 --> 00:19:17,516
Lehman's down
another 10%.
406
00:19:17,551 --> 00:19:19,952
You are not gonna let me
get down a single bite, are you?
407
00:19:19,986 --> 00:19:21,520
That's why
I have oatmeal.
408
00:19:21,554 --> 00:19:24,222
Dick is trotting around the world
with his head in his hands
409
00:19:24,257 --> 00:19:26,024
and no one will
give him any money.
410
00:19:26,059 --> 00:19:28,327
Korea walked out on him.
Mexico told him to shove it.
411
00:19:28,361 --> 00:19:30,529
No one's interested.
All the dumb money's already in.
412
00:19:30,563 --> 00:19:32,397
What about B of A?
Are they still in the mix?
413
00:19:32,432 --> 00:19:34,800
And Barclays is
sniffing around again,
414
00:19:34,834 --> 00:19:36,668
now that they think
it's a fire sale.
415
00:19:36,702 --> 00:19:38,036
That's promising.
416
00:19:38,070 --> 00:19:39,971
I don't know.
The British--
417
00:19:40,006 --> 00:19:43,675
they do a lot of talking.
They never close.
418
00:19:43,709 --> 00:19:45,811
B of A is still
our best bet.
419
00:19:45,845 --> 00:19:47,345
This can't be
another Bear.
420
00:19:47,380 --> 00:19:48,504
Absolutely not.
421
00:19:48,529 --> 00:19:50,329
They want Lehman--
they buy it outright.
422
00:19:50,349 --> 00:19:52,083
But they may need
a little hand-holding.
423
00:19:52,118 --> 00:19:54,619
They just bought Countrywide.
They're spread a little thin.
424
00:19:54,654 --> 00:19:56,521
You may have to
give them a break
425
00:19:56,555 --> 00:19:58,256
with the capital
requirements.
426
00:19:58,290 --> 00:20:01,426
You want me to allow them
to raise their leverage
427
00:20:01,460 --> 00:20:03,962
so they can buy a bank
that's about to fail
428
00:20:03,996 --> 00:20:06,164
because it was
overleveraged?
429
00:20:06,198 --> 00:20:09,167
You got a better idea?
430
00:20:09,201 --> 00:20:12,303
Breaking news just coming in:
Sources telling CNBC
431
00:20:12,338 --> 00:20:14,539
that the government
has just taken control
432
00:20:14,574 --> 00:20:16,809
of Fannie Mae
and Freddie Mac.
433
00:20:16,843 --> 00:20:18,811
Back in July, you remember,
Hank Paulson said
434
00:20:18,846 --> 00:20:20,814
that he wanted
the power to step in,
435
00:20:20,848 --> 00:20:22,649
but he probably
wouldn't use it.
436
00:20:22,684 --> 00:20:24,452
It certainly sounds
like Paulson
437
00:20:24,486 --> 00:20:26,120
just pulled the trigger
on that bazooka.
438
00:20:26,155 --> 00:20:28,357
Despite the move nationalizeFannie and Freddie,
439
00:20:28,391 --> 00:20:31,560
the market is still in negativeterritory across the board.
440
00:20:31,594 --> 00:20:34,863
Investors now focusing their attentionon Lehman Brothers
441
00:20:34,898 --> 00:20:37,966
amid fresh reports that the nation'sfourth largest investment bank
442
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,268
may be on the brinkof bankruptcy.
443
00:20:40,302 --> 00:20:42,570
- Rodge.
- Chris.
444
00:20:42,604 --> 00:20:45,170
Bring your money
today, huh?
445
00:20:47,904 --> 00:20:51,272
Make sure Fuld's not keeping
any bad news out of the mix.
446
00:20:51,306 --> 00:20:54,373
It's open kimono,
to quote Dick.
447
00:20:54,408 --> 00:20:57,042
There's a revolting image.
448
00:20:59,645 --> 00:21:02,480
Did you get a look
at the numbers?
449
00:21:02,514 --> 00:21:04,115
The real estate's
the issue.
450
00:21:04,149 --> 00:21:06,117
They got it marked
at $30 billion.
451
00:21:06,152 --> 00:21:08,153
It's worth maybe
half of that.
452
00:21:08,187 --> 00:21:10,088
Don't look so nervous.
453
00:21:10,122 --> 00:21:13,258
You're about to get a Wall Street
bank for the price of a hot dog.
454
00:21:13,292 --> 00:21:16,761
I know that Paulson told Ken Lewis
that he's not gonna pay for this.
455
00:21:16,795 --> 00:21:18,462
And I don't see
how we can do it
456
00:21:18,497 --> 00:21:20,564
unless the government takes
some of the downside.
457
00:21:20,599 --> 00:21:22,332
Paulson is posturing.
458
00:21:22,367 --> 00:21:24,034
He'll write a check
just like he did
459
00:21:24,069 --> 00:21:25,679
for Jamie Dimon
on the Bear deal.
460
00:21:25,704 --> 00:21:27,186
He has to.
He can't lose
461
00:21:27,187 --> 00:21:29,479
another major bank
in an election year.
462
00:21:29,507 --> 00:21:31,475
Besides,
the guy made, like,
463
00:21:31,509 --> 00:21:33,677
a half a billion bucks
at Goldman Sachs.
464
00:21:33,711 --> 00:21:36,747
He lets Lehman die--
Goldman's biggest competitor--
465
00:21:36,781 --> 00:21:39,016
makes him look like he's
still working for Goldman;
466
00:21:39,050 --> 00:21:42,052
he's just doing it
out of the desk at Treasury.
467
00:21:43,688 --> 00:21:47,023
Where are the donuts?
468
00:21:47,058 --> 00:21:49,493
Exactly. If you're the CEO
of one of these financial firms,
469
00:21:49,527 --> 00:21:52,062
you've already seen what the
government was willing to do.
470
00:21:52,097 --> 00:21:54,432
Why wouldn't you play
chicken with them and say,
471
00:21:54,466 --> 00:21:57,936
"Sure I'll help you out.
But you gotta throw in a sweetener,
472
00:21:57,970 --> 00:21:59,738
just like you didfor those guys"?
473
00:22:01,407 --> 00:22:04,342
They just assume
I'm gonna bail out Dick Fuld
474
00:22:04,377 --> 00:22:07,512
like I'm the guy behind the
elephant with the shovel.
475
00:22:07,546 --> 00:22:09,480
They're all drawing
a line from Bear
476
00:22:09,515 --> 00:22:11,382
and Fannie and Freddie
right to Lehman.
477
00:22:11,416 --> 00:22:13,216
There's no way the taxpayers
are gonna go for another bailout--
478
00:22:13,250 --> 00:22:15,851
A very large
purchase assistance package.
479
00:22:15,886 --> 00:22:19,021
We need to come up with
a private-sector solution,
480
00:22:19,056 --> 00:22:21,356
get the investment banks
to bridge the gap.
481
00:22:21,391 --> 00:22:23,191
Okay, but that's
never gonna work,
482
00:22:23,225 --> 00:22:25,092
unless they believe
that you've drawn a line.
483
00:22:25,127 --> 00:22:28,495
I know you don't like leaking,
but let us reach out to the press.
484
00:22:34,567 --> 00:22:36,001
Okay.
485
00:22:38,370 --> 00:22:40,538
Mr. Flowers,
486
00:22:40,572 --> 00:22:42,940
there's a call for you--
Bob Willumstad from A.I.G.
487
00:22:42,975 --> 00:22:45,242
He's very insistent.
488
00:22:50,314 --> 00:22:52,448
Mr. Flowers.
489
00:22:52,483 --> 00:22:54,816
My people tell me
you're the man to talk to.
490
00:22:54,851 --> 00:22:56,351
We've got a real
problem here.
491
00:22:56,385 --> 00:22:57,919
Yeah? What kind
of problem?
492
00:22:57,953 --> 00:23:01,189
It looks very much like we are
about to run out of cash.
493
00:23:01,223 --> 00:23:02,623
A.I.G.?
494
00:23:02,658 --> 00:23:04,725
We've sent over a document.
It's a spreadsheet.
495
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,628
It's confidential, of course,
but it might give you some insight.
496
00:23:07,662 --> 00:23:10,297
I'm in the middle of Lehman.
I'm working with B of A.
497
00:23:10,331 --> 00:23:13,199
Is there any way
you could come over tomorrow?
498
00:23:13,234 --> 00:23:15,302
I'll take a look
at the numbers
499
00:23:15,336 --> 00:23:17,470
and we'll talk.
500
00:23:22,610 --> 00:23:24,778
Mr. Flowers.
501
00:23:28,183 --> 00:23:29,883
Somebody putthe TV on.
502
00:23:29,918 --> 00:23:32,353
CNBC's talking
about Lehman.
503
00:23:37,025 --> 00:23:40,294
...Person familiar
with Paulson's--
504
00:23:40,329 --> 00:23:42,463
Treasury Secretary
Hank Paulson's thinking,
505
00:23:42,498 --> 00:23:44,999
and he is saying there will
be no government money
506
00:23:45,033 --> 00:23:47,301
in the resolutionof this situation.
507
00:23:47,335 --> 00:23:49,970
They're saying two things
make the Lehman deal different:
508
00:23:50,005 --> 00:23:52,172
The market's been aware
and had time to prepare
509
00:23:52,207 --> 00:23:54,542
for over six months;
And the second is...
510
00:23:54,576 --> 00:23:57,110
Is that just
TV bullshit,
511
00:23:57,145 --> 00:24:00,279
or is that Paulson
sending us a message?
512
00:24:01,215 --> 00:24:02,682
Chris?
513
00:24:09,857 --> 00:24:11,591
Yeah? Sorry.
514
00:24:14,794 --> 00:24:16,088
What exactly does
515
00:24:16,113 --> 00:24:18,434
"a person familiar with
the Treasury Secretary" mean?
516
00:24:18,464 --> 00:24:20,565
That could mean
a lot of things.
517
00:24:20,599 --> 00:24:22,333
Did one of your
staffers do this?
518
00:24:22,367 --> 00:24:24,468
Please tell me someone got fired
10 minutes ago.
519
00:24:24,502 --> 00:24:26,569
The leak came from me.
520
00:24:28,472 --> 00:24:30,273
Hank, a public statement
like that
521
00:24:30,307 --> 00:24:32,275
can have a lot of
unintended consequences.
522
00:24:32,309 --> 00:24:34,243
We had to send a message
to the other banks.
523
00:24:34,277 --> 00:24:35,465
They need to step up.
524
00:24:35,490 --> 00:24:37,403
I don't have another rabbit
I can pull out of my hat.
525
00:24:38,514 --> 00:24:41,216
Rodgin Cohen
just called me.
526
00:24:41,250 --> 00:24:44,621
The B of A team is sitting there
playing brick breaker on their phones.
527
00:24:44,656 --> 00:24:46,091
They don't want this deal.
528
00:24:46,126 --> 00:24:48,596
The deal is hanging
by a thread
529
00:24:48,630 --> 00:24:50,466
because the closer
they get to Lehman
530
00:24:50,500 --> 00:24:52,768
the more it looks
like a toxic waste dump.
531
00:24:52,803 --> 00:24:56,205
Which is why at the end of the day
we may have to help them,
532
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,942
which would be a lot easier
if we didn't publicly state that--
533
00:24:59,977 --> 00:25:02,045
We can't, Tim.
Legally we can't.
534
00:25:02,079 --> 00:25:04,347
Legally we haven't
figured out
535
00:25:04,381 --> 00:25:08,217
how yet.
536
00:25:08,251 --> 00:25:12,188
I am concerned
537
00:25:12,222 --> 00:25:14,856
we are limiting
our options
538
00:25:14,890 --> 00:25:18,124
at a time when we have
very few,
539
00:25:18,159 --> 00:25:20,192
if any, available.
540
00:25:22,762 --> 00:25:26,365
I want all the C.E.O.s
in a room.
541
00:25:26,399 --> 00:25:28,334
We've got the weekend.
542
00:25:28,368 --> 00:25:30,736
We lock them in a room
at the Fed
543
00:25:30,771 --> 00:25:34,440
and we don't let them out until
they have a solution on Lehman.
544
00:25:34,475 --> 00:25:36,475
Your oatmeal's
getting cold.
545
00:25:36,510 --> 00:25:39,544
They'll figure it out.
They'll all throw in some money.
546
00:25:41,213 --> 00:25:43,181
Well, Tim is
advocating strongly
547
00:25:43,215 --> 00:25:45,216
that we reconsider
some kind of Fed support.
548
00:25:45,251 --> 00:25:47,452
Tim wants us to pick up
the tab on everyone.
549
00:25:47,486 --> 00:25:49,987
I can't be
Mr. bailout.
550
00:25:50,021 --> 00:25:53,523
The Lehman hole is
twice what Bear's was.
551
00:25:53,558 --> 00:25:55,525
Investors are pulling
their accounts.
552
00:25:55,559 --> 00:25:58,094
You want to lend
into a run?
553
00:25:58,128 --> 00:26:00,329
What about Barclays?
Are they still interested?
554
00:26:00,363 --> 00:26:03,165
They can't afford the risk
any more than B of A can.
555
00:26:03,199 --> 00:26:06,702
I don't doubt your ability to talk
anybody into submission,
556
00:26:06,737 --> 00:26:08,871
but it is still
a long shot.
557
00:26:08,906 --> 00:26:12,743
And there's a very real possibility
that Lehman goes under.
558
00:26:12,777 --> 00:26:16,212
There's a deal
to be made here.
559
00:26:16,247 --> 00:26:19,015
I'm gonna make the deal.
560
00:26:19,049 --> 00:26:21,117
With just a little morethan an hour
561
00:26:21,152 --> 00:26:22,986
left untilthe market closes,
562
00:26:23,020 --> 00:26:25,389
shares of Lehman Brothershave taken another tumble.
563
00:26:25,423 --> 00:26:27,458
The stock is nowtrading at a new low--
564
00:26:27,492 --> 00:26:29,393
under $4 a share.
565
00:26:29,428 --> 00:26:31,395
And judging fromthe selling,
566
00:26:31,430 --> 00:26:34,198
there doesn't appear to bea bottom in sight.
567
00:26:36,969 --> 00:26:38,937
So Blankfein
has a speech
568
00:26:38,972 --> 00:26:41,006
he's trying to get out of,
but the rest have confirmed.
569
00:26:41,041 --> 00:26:43,475
- Tell him it's not optional.
- Yeah.
570
00:26:43,510 --> 00:26:45,977
Good afternoon, Chairman.
Thank you so much for joining us.
571
00:26:46,011 --> 00:26:47,411
Whose plane is this?
572
00:26:47,446 --> 00:26:49,379
Uh, that's a rental.
573
00:26:49,414 --> 00:26:51,849
Hank put it
on his card.
574
00:26:51,883 --> 00:26:54,751
Sir, you know Neel and
Michele Davis, public affairs.
575
00:26:54,786 --> 00:26:56,019
Hi. Pleasure.
576
00:26:56,054 --> 00:26:57,721
This is Dan Jester--
our new numbers guy.
577
00:26:57,755 --> 00:26:58,707
Hi.
578
00:26:58,732 --> 00:27:00,256
I've talked him into
coming out of retirement.
579
00:27:00,258 --> 00:27:02,726
- Excuse me? Retirement?
- He was with us at Goldman.
580
00:27:02,761 --> 00:27:05,094
Got anybody at Treasury
who wasn't at Goldman?
581
00:27:05,128 --> 00:27:06,928
Chairman,
just to be clear,
582
00:27:06,962 --> 00:27:08,996
there's no question of
conflict of interest.
583
00:27:09,031 --> 00:27:11,632
Hank sold all of his Goldman stock
before he took office.
584
00:27:11,666 --> 00:27:13,366
I wasn't implying
anything.
585
00:27:13,401 --> 00:27:15,135
Sorry.
We're a little touchy
586
00:27:15,169 --> 00:27:17,837
about the whole
government-Sachs thing.
587
00:27:17,871 --> 00:27:19,638
Shall we?
588
00:27:22,775 --> 00:27:25,309
B of A keeps finding
more toxic assets.
589
00:27:25,344 --> 00:27:27,344
They want you
to reconsider a Jamie deal.
590
00:27:27,379 --> 00:27:29,246
They'll split the first
billion in losses,
591
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,180
but they want you on the hook
for the next 40.
592
00:27:31,215 --> 00:27:33,415
You did it for Bear.
593
00:27:33,450 --> 00:27:35,717
Greg, let me
get back to you.
594
00:27:35,751 --> 00:27:38,186
What do I have to--
tattoo it on my forehead?
595
00:27:38,220 --> 00:27:39,853
We are not
bailing out Lehman.
596
00:27:39,888 --> 00:27:41,521
Wall Street has
a gambling problem.
597
00:27:41,556 --> 00:27:43,557
If government keeps
covering their losses,
598
00:27:43,591 --> 00:27:45,659
they never learn
anything.
599
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,227
What?
600
00:27:48,262 --> 00:27:50,996
I didn't know if you wanted
to keep lecturing me on moral hazard
601
00:27:51,031 --> 00:27:53,732
or if I should just
call B of A back.
602
00:27:53,766 --> 00:27:55,835
We need to keep them at the table
603
00:27:55,869 --> 00:27:58,004
until they come up with
a private-sector solution.
604
00:27:58,038 --> 00:28:00,506
Tell them
to stay with us.
605
00:28:00,540 --> 00:28:02,708
- Alistair, hello.
- Hello, Henry.
606
00:28:02,743 --> 00:28:04,844
Hold on one second.
607
00:28:06,046 --> 00:28:08,014
Chancellor of
the Exchequer.
608
00:28:08,048 --> 00:28:11,418
I understand Barclays is one ofyour potential buyers for Lehman.
609
00:28:11,452 --> 00:28:14,321
My banks are already undera great deal of stress.
610
00:28:14,355 --> 00:28:16,623
They don't wantto become overextended.
611
00:28:16,657 --> 00:28:18,891
Lehman is problematic,
but there's value there.
612
00:28:18,926 --> 00:28:21,194
We will find a way
to make it attractive.
613
00:28:21,228 --> 00:28:23,395
Just stay with us.
614
00:28:23,430 --> 00:28:25,030
Talk soon.
615
00:28:25,064 --> 00:28:26,464
Bye.
616
00:28:26,499 --> 00:28:28,466
We'll keep Barclays
in the mix,
617
00:28:28,501 --> 00:28:31,302
but B of A is still
our best bet.
618
00:28:31,337 --> 00:28:34,740
We've got the C.E.O.s of every
major bank coming here tonight.
619
00:28:34,774 --> 00:28:38,109
We have to make it clear
that this their problem,
620
00:28:38,144 --> 00:28:41,512
that we are their advisors
and their allies,
621
00:28:41,546 --> 00:28:45,582
but we are not
their safety net.
622
00:28:46,884 --> 00:28:48,551
What should we expect
from these guys?
623
00:28:59,230 --> 00:29:01,197
Jamie is smart.
624
00:29:01,232 --> 00:29:03,299
He doesn't have as muchcash to work with
625
00:29:03,334 --> 00:29:06,001
since he bought Bear.
626
00:29:06,036 --> 00:29:08,803
Lloyd's a superstar.
627
00:29:08,838 --> 00:29:11,573
Goldman's the smartestshop on the block.
628
00:29:11,607 --> 00:29:13,575
And just becauseI used to be his boss,
629
00:29:13,610 --> 00:29:17,079
it doesn't meanhe's gonna listen to me.
630
00:29:17,113 --> 00:29:19,982
John Mack used to runaround the floor screaming,
631
00:29:20,016 --> 00:29:23,752
"there's blood in the water!Let's go kill someone!"
632
00:29:23,786 --> 00:29:26,321
He's a fighter.
633
00:29:28,122 --> 00:29:29,956
Thain was my number twoat Goldman.
634
00:29:29,990 --> 00:29:31,957
He's selfish.He's a pragmatist.
635
00:29:31,991 --> 00:29:35,793
He knows-- if Lehman goes,Merrill's next.
636
00:29:37,096 --> 00:29:40,498
Vikram Pandit is the new guyat Citigroup.
637
00:29:40,533 --> 00:29:43,268
No one knowsif he's running Citi
638
00:29:43,302 --> 00:29:45,503
or if Citi'srunning him.
639
00:30:08,388 --> 00:30:12,524
Thanks for coming down here
on such short notice.
640
00:30:12,558 --> 00:30:14,593
Monday morning Lehman
will no longer be able
641
00:30:14,627 --> 00:30:16,762
to honor
its obligations.
642
00:30:18,965 --> 00:30:22,200
We have two potential buyers--B of A and Barclays.
643
00:30:22,235 --> 00:30:24,502
Neither will take the company
unless someone else
644
00:30:24,537 --> 00:30:26,804
finances part of the deal.
645
00:30:26,839 --> 00:30:30,308
The government is not
in a position to step in.
646
00:30:31,644 --> 00:30:34,612
I did the last one.
You're gonna do this one.
647
00:30:34,646 --> 00:30:36,013
Where is Dick Fuld?
648
00:30:36,047 --> 00:30:38,281
Dick's in no condition
to make any decisions.
649
00:30:38,315 --> 00:30:41,451
We're breaking youinto three groups.
650
00:30:41,485 --> 00:30:44,288
The first one
will try to value
651
00:30:44,322 --> 00:30:46,224
Lehman's toxic assets.
652
00:30:46,258 --> 00:30:48,293
The second one will workon some sort of structure
653
00:30:48,327 --> 00:30:50,495
for you all to investin Lehman.
654
00:30:50,530 --> 00:30:54,200
And the third one works
on the lights-out plan.
655
00:30:54,235 --> 00:30:56,636
If Lehman files for bankruptcy,
we need to figure out
656
00:30:56,671 --> 00:30:58,939
how to contain the damage
to the rest of you.
657
00:30:58,973 --> 00:31:00,140
Christ.
658
00:31:00,175 --> 00:31:02,110
We've all seen
this coming for miles.
659
00:31:02,144 --> 00:31:05,315
I don't think the Lehman bankruptcy
takes down our firms.
660
00:31:05,349 --> 00:31:07,952
What, are we
crossing our fingers?
661
00:31:07,987 --> 00:31:10,622
You're asking us
to save a competitor.
662
00:31:10,656 --> 00:31:13,092
Let's not act like you're
doing us a favor.
663
00:31:13,126 --> 00:31:17,296
Gentlemen, gentlemen,
you are great Americans
664
00:31:17,330 --> 00:31:19,264
undertaking
a patriotic duty.
665
00:31:19,298 --> 00:31:22,032
Your travailwill earn you
666
00:31:22,066 --> 00:31:25,500
the love and gratitudeof your country.
667
00:31:25,535 --> 00:31:27,769
I think it was Thomas Paine
who said that these are--
668
00:31:27,803 --> 00:31:29,970
Lehman is a trading partner
for every bank in this room.
669
00:31:30,004 --> 00:31:32,771
And their failure will be amassive blow to all of you.
670
00:31:32,806 --> 00:31:34,506
This isyour problem.
671
00:31:34,540 --> 00:31:36,974
We can all argue about
how we got here--
672
00:31:37,008 --> 00:31:39,309
deregulation,
derivatives,
673
00:31:39,343 --> 00:31:41,077
Dick Fuld made
bad decisions.
674
00:31:41,111 --> 00:31:44,712
We're all responsible.It's a catastrophic mess.
675
00:31:44,747 --> 00:31:47,114
The government's donewhatever it can do.
676
00:31:47,148 --> 00:31:48,482
It's on you now.
677
00:31:48,516 --> 00:31:51,451
You need to fix itand you need to pay for it.
678
00:31:51,485 --> 00:31:54,921
Let me be clear:
679
00:31:54,955 --> 00:31:56,922
We will remember
680
00:31:56,957 --> 00:31:59,625
anyone who's not helpful.
681
00:32:22,581 --> 00:32:24,983
Do you notice a littlepattern here?
682
00:32:25,017 --> 00:32:27,785
We don't deal with things until there'ssome kind of emergency on the table.
683
00:32:27,820 --> 00:32:30,088
Yeah, we don't dealwith things until Friday--
684
00:32:30,122 --> 00:32:32,457
Some kind of a weekend thing.When are we gonna figure out
685
00:32:32,491 --> 00:32:34,659
exactly how to handle the failureof an investment bank?
686
00:32:34,694 --> 00:32:36,228
Well, let's do itover a weekend.
687
00:32:36,262 --> 00:32:38,263
Just I talked to a person
who is monitoring
688
00:32:38,297 --> 00:32:40,599
The situation out there,
and the person said
689
00:32:40,633 --> 00:32:43,936
they all want the same deal
Jamie Dimon got,
690
00:32:43,970 --> 00:32:45,971
and they're not
going to get it.
691
00:32:46,005 --> 00:32:48,406
Just a heads up--
Chris Flowers is in the lobby.
692
00:32:48,441 --> 00:32:51,343
He's consulting
for B of A on Lehman.
693
00:32:53,212 --> 00:32:56,014
Hank pushed Flowers
out of Goldman.
694
00:32:56,048 --> 00:32:57,782
Yesterday we thought
Lehman was holding
695
00:32:57,817 --> 00:32:59,717
$30 billion in crap.
Today it's $70--
696
00:32:59,752 --> 00:33:03,219
$70 billion in assets that
we're valuing with a dartboard.
697
00:33:03,253 --> 00:33:04,587
No, we're gonna
work this out.
698
00:33:04,622 --> 00:33:06,890
Unless you step in,
we're ending this.
699
00:33:06,924 --> 00:33:08,324
Don't forget
about Dick.
700
00:33:08,358 --> 00:33:10,125
Yeah, Dick Fuld
keeps calling,
701
00:33:10,159 --> 00:33:11,926
hammering us
to raise the price.
702
00:33:13,696 --> 00:33:15,696
Excuse me.
703
00:33:20,202 --> 00:33:23,069
$70 fucking billion
704
00:33:23,104 --> 00:33:26,739
and no collateral?
705
00:33:26,774 --> 00:33:29,308
If Lehman Brothers failsthis weekend,
706
00:33:29,343 --> 00:33:31,610
there's little doubt
amongst the people I speak to
707
00:33:31,645 --> 00:33:33,712
that Merrill Lynch
will be next.
708
00:33:33,746 --> 00:33:36,049
Confidence is a very
fragile thing.
709
00:33:36,083 --> 00:33:39,752
And in our financial markets
it is eroding very quickly.
710
00:33:39,787 --> 00:33:41,987
Lehman's not gonna
make it.
711
00:33:42,021 --> 00:33:44,989
We're next.
We need to do something right now.
712
00:33:45,023 --> 00:33:47,258
B of A's the only one
out there.
713
00:33:47,292 --> 00:33:49,694
I can put in a call.
It screws Lehman, but--
714
00:33:49,728 --> 00:33:52,596
Lehman screwed themselves.
Paulson has drawn a line in the sand.
715
00:33:52,630 --> 00:33:54,531
Lehman is dead.
716
00:33:54,565 --> 00:33:56,799
Make the call.
717
00:33:59,635 --> 00:34:02,806
We'd like you guys
to look at taking a stake in Merrill,
718
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,842
something in
the neighborhood of 10%.
719
00:34:05,876 --> 00:34:09,278
Well, I don't know
if I can generate any interest in 10%,
720
00:34:09,312 --> 00:34:12,380
but if the whole
company's in play,
721
00:34:12,415 --> 00:34:15,650
I bet that's something
that we'd consider.
722
00:34:15,684 --> 00:34:17,752
Us and Lehman?
723
00:34:17,786 --> 00:34:20,754
Deal of this size--
there's only room for one.
724
00:34:27,394 --> 00:34:29,561
It is a lot of risk,
no question,
725
00:34:29,596 --> 00:34:31,563
but if you stay
in the game,
726
00:34:31,598 --> 00:34:33,932
we all will find
a private solution.
727
00:34:33,966 --> 00:34:35,833
Absolutely.
728
00:34:37,002 --> 00:34:38,970
Don't get scared
by the numbers.
729
00:34:39,004 --> 00:34:41,506
We'll figure it out.
Lehman is worth owning.
730
00:34:41,540 --> 00:34:44,240
Guys, you got a second?
731
00:34:47,644 --> 00:34:49,611
I was at A.I.G.
yesterday.
732
00:34:49,646 --> 00:34:51,612
Next Wednesday
they got
733
00:34:51,647 --> 00:34:54,514
a $5 billion hole,
minimum.
734
00:34:54,548 --> 00:34:57,014
I called
Warren Buffett.
735
00:34:57,049 --> 00:34:59,983
He wouldn't touch it
with a stick.
736
00:35:00,017 --> 00:35:01,818
We're looking
into it.
737
00:35:01,852 --> 00:35:03,953
It's a very big company.
738
00:35:06,322 --> 00:35:08,256
Thanks, Chris.
739
00:35:08,290 --> 00:35:10,424
I appreciate
all your help.
740
00:35:16,832 --> 00:35:19,634
They're not
on top of it.
741
00:35:25,676 --> 00:35:27,778
Look at this.
742
00:35:31,617 --> 00:35:34,153
Is this even possible?
743
00:35:34,187 --> 00:35:36,055
A.I.G.?
744
00:35:36,089 --> 00:35:37,557
Holy shit.
745
00:35:38,993 --> 00:35:41,094
Get into this.
746
00:35:43,064 --> 00:35:45,667
John.
747
00:35:49,472 --> 00:35:52,742
Do you see
what's happening here?
748
00:35:52,776 --> 00:35:54,911
Are you watching out
for yourself?
749
00:35:54,945 --> 00:35:56,879
I'm not thick.
750
00:35:56,913 --> 00:35:59,648
I'm working
on something.
751
00:36:02,886 --> 00:36:06,021
You're talking
to B of A.
752
00:36:07,223 --> 00:36:09,291
I'm sorry.
753
00:36:09,325 --> 00:36:11,125
I know it's not good
for Lehman,
754
00:36:11,159 --> 00:36:12,693
but I have to take care
of Merrill.
755
00:36:12,727 --> 00:36:16,129
Let me worry
about Lehman.
756
00:36:16,163 --> 00:36:18,865
Barclays is still
in the game.
757
00:36:20,534 --> 00:36:22,535
Just get it done.
758
00:36:33,613 --> 00:36:37,283
B of A is gonna
buy Merrill.
759
00:36:39,285 --> 00:36:41,520
We need to make
Barclays work.
760
00:36:41,554 --> 00:36:45,057
I thought you said
the British never close.
761
00:36:45,092 --> 00:36:47,026
They're here.
762
00:36:47,060 --> 00:36:49,395
They seem to really
want it.
763
00:36:49,429 --> 00:36:52,898
If we hold their hands,
they'll close.
764
00:36:52,933 --> 00:36:55,033
Rodgin,
what the fuck?
765
00:36:55,068 --> 00:36:58,169
I can't get Geithner.
I can't get Paulson.
766
00:36:58,204 --> 00:37:01,307
I can't even get my own goddamn
employees to pick up the phone.
767
00:37:01,341 --> 00:37:03,376
There's a lot happening
down here, Dick.
768
00:37:03,410 --> 00:37:04,844
Oh fuck.
769
00:37:04,878 --> 00:37:07,346
You know what?
You tell Geithner,
770
00:37:07,381 --> 00:37:10,683
he doesn't pull my ass out of the fire--
Merrill's gonna be next.
771
00:37:10,718 --> 00:37:13,953
He knows that.
Dick, he just told me
772
00:37:13,988 --> 00:37:16,556
they're working
on a solution for Merrill.
773
00:37:19,393 --> 00:37:21,894
Those cocksuckers are
gonna bail out Merrill?
774
00:37:21,929 --> 00:37:23,530
No no, not the Fed.
775
00:37:23,564 --> 00:37:25,532
Well, there's no
private buyers.
776
00:37:25,566 --> 00:37:28,568
There's just B of A
and--
777
00:37:28,603 --> 00:37:31,204
they're gonna put B of A
together with Merrill?
778
00:37:31,238 --> 00:37:33,772
We still have Barclays.
Hank feels that--
779
00:37:33,807 --> 00:37:38,109
the federal government
is snaking my deal?
780
00:37:38,143 --> 00:37:41,779
I cannot fucking
believe this shit!
781
00:37:43,616 --> 00:37:45,885
B of A made a deal
with Merrill?
782
00:37:45,919 --> 00:37:47,954
Yeah, Lehman's still
our problem.
783
00:37:47,988 --> 00:37:50,323
I don't think I can take
another day of this.
784
00:37:50,357 --> 00:37:52,325
You're getting out
of a Mercedes
785
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,361
to go to the New York
Federal Reserve.
786
00:37:54,395 --> 00:37:56,697
It's not a Higgins boat
on Omaha Beach.
787
00:38:04,939 --> 00:38:06,874
Okay okay,
788
00:38:06,908 --> 00:38:08,875
we've been here
a long time.
789
00:38:08,910 --> 00:38:11,311
Let's stop
fucking around.
790
00:38:11,345 --> 00:38:14,547
Main Street wants
Wall Street to pay.
791
00:38:14,582 --> 00:38:17,684
They think we're
overpaid assholes.
792
00:38:17,718 --> 00:38:21,221
There's no politician
who's gonna sign off on a bailout.
793
00:38:21,255 --> 00:38:23,223
Why would you
bail out people
794
00:38:23,257 --> 00:38:25,224
whose sole job
is to make money?
795
00:38:25,259 --> 00:38:29,695
So let's make this
real simple.
796
00:38:29,729 --> 00:38:32,464
Hank thinks
he can sell
797
00:38:32,498 --> 00:38:34,232
the good parts of Lehman
to Barclays,
798
00:38:34,267 --> 00:38:36,234
but someone has to take
the real estate crap
799
00:38:36,268 --> 00:38:38,636
that's weighing down
the company.
800
00:38:38,670 --> 00:38:40,637
Nobody knows how much
this shit is worth,
801
00:38:40,672 --> 00:38:42,706
but we know somebody has to
buy it to make a deal.
802
00:38:42,740 --> 00:38:44,741
I don't like it.
803
00:38:44,775 --> 00:38:47,210
Nobody likes it.
804
00:38:47,244 --> 00:38:50,046
Let's just suck it up
and do it.
805
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,515
How many of you can
kick in a billion dollars
806
00:38:52,550 --> 00:38:55,152
to stop Lehman
from going down?
807
00:38:58,056 --> 00:39:00,090
I'm in.
808
00:39:00,125 --> 00:39:02,893
One billion.
809
00:39:13,304 --> 00:39:15,472
Okay.
810
00:39:21,244 --> 00:39:23,546
Goldman's
in for a billion.
811
00:39:30,888 --> 00:39:33,356
John?
812
00:39:33,391 --> 00:39:35,525
Yeah.
813
00:39:41,098 --> 00:39:43,199
Yes.
814
00:39:44,702 --> 00:39:46,903
Yeah.
815
00:39:48,305 --> 00:39:50,438
Yes.
816
00:39:55,077 --> 00:39:57,679
We did it.
Barclays came through.
817
00:39:57,713 --> 00:39:59,581
Too goddamn right!
818
00:39:59,615 --> 00:40:02,016
Barclays won't touch
the real estate assets,
819
00:40:02,051 --> 00:40:04,385
but the other banks
agreed to cover those.
820
00:40:05,921 --> 00:40:08,256
Call the board.
Get everybody here.
821
00:40:08,290 --> 00:40:10,158
We got a deal to make.
822
00:40:10,193 --> 00:40:11,660
Okay.
823
00:40:21,205 --> 00:40:22,773
Did you get him?
824
00:40:22,807 --> 00:40:25,675
Geithner doesn't
return my calls.
825
00:40:25,709 --> 00:40:27,509
We can't get hold of
any of those people.
826
00:40:27,543 --> 00:40:30,444
At the end of the day they can't
sign the deal without our say-so.
827
00:40:30,479 --> 00:40:33,080
Yes, but do they
know that?
828
00:40:36,484 --> 00:40:38,451
Yes.
829
00:40:38,486 --> 00:40:40,086
Yes, by all means,
830
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,455
now that he deigns to call,
put him through.
831
00:40:42,489 --> 00:40:45,657
Sir Callum, sorry I haven't
gotten back to you.
832
00:40:45,692 --> 00:40:47,492
We're just
sorting through
833
00:40:47,527 --> 00:40:50,128
this Barclays deal
for Lehman.
834
00:40:50,162 --> 00:40:52,330
As Barclays' regulator,
835
00:40:52,364 --> 00:40:55,332
we have serious concerns
about this proposed arrangement.
836
00:40:55,367 --> 00:40:57,167
What-- are--
are you saying
837
00:40:57,202 --> 00:40:59,269
you won't approve
the deal?
838
00:40:59,303 --> 00:41:01,404
Even if we were
comfortable with the agreement,
839
00:41:01,438 --> 00:41:02,972
which we are not,
840
00:41:03,006 --> 00:41:04,974
Barclays would need
at least 30 days
841
00:41:05,008 --> 00:41:06,942
for shareholder
approval.
842
00:41:06,976 --> 00:41:09,344
No no no no no no.
843
00:41:09,379 --> 00:41:11,713
He can't.
He can't do this.
844
00:41:11,748 --> 00:41:14,449
- Can they stop the deal?
- Of course they can stop the deal.
845
00:41:14,484 --> 00:41:16,451
But even if they don't stop it,
the delay will kill it.
846
00:41:16,486 --> 00:41:19,954
Let's call the Chancellor
of the Exchequer right now.
847
00:41:19,989 --> 00:41:22,123
None of those
assets
848
00:41:22,157 --> 00:41:24,626
would be part
of Barclays.
849
00:41:25,995 --> 00:41:30,032
Yes, but if the F.S.A.
were to--
850
00:41:31,668 --> 00:41:36,338
of c--
of course.
851
00:41:37,507 --> 00:41:39,475
Yeah.
852
00:41:39,509 --> 00:41:41,877
I wish you good night.
853
00:41:43,213 --> 00:41:45,413
Good night to you too.
854
00:41:52,787 --> 00:41:55,722
"We don't want to import
your cancer."
855
00:42:07,468 --> 00:42:10,638
Those of you
856
00:42:10,672 --> 00:42:13,842
who didn't want to assist
the Barclays deal,
857
00:42:13,876 --> 00:42:17,144
you can breathe
a sigh of relief.
858
00:42:17,179 --> 00:42:19,213
The deal's not
gonna happen.
859
00:42:19,247 --> 00:42:21,615
- Hank, we have the money.
- The deal's dead.
860
00:42:21,650 --> 00:42:24,919
The British regulator
won't sign off.
861
00:42:24,953 --> 00:42:26,587
There must be some
pressure you can exert.
862
00:42:26,621 --> 00:42:29,224
Trust me, I've done
everything I can.
863
00:42:29,258 --> 00:42:32,727
The British--
864
00:42:32,762 --> 00:42:35,630
they grin-fucked us.
865
00:42:38,268 --> 00:42:40,202
Pason's got
100,000 employees.
866
00:42:40,236 --> 00:42:42,204
Geithner has
200 lawyers.
867
00:42:42,238 --> 00:42:44,239
Freaking Chris Cox
has 3000 people.
868
00:42:44,274 --> 00:42:47,309
Not a single one of those assholes
could pick up a phone,
869
00:42:47,334 --> 00:42:49,834
call the British, find out if
they're was a deal to be made
870
00:42:49,913 --> 00:42:52,982
before they spend the weekend was
sweating us for cash?
871
00:42:53,016 --> 00:42:54,984
Somebody dropped
the ball.
872
00:42:55,018 --> 00:42:56,919
They didn't
drop the ball.
873
00:42:56,953 --> 00:42:58,988
They dropped the ball,
kicked the coach in the nuts
874
00:42:59,022 --> 00:43:00,956
and took a crap in
the quarterback's mouth.
875
00:43:00,991 --> 00:43:03,092
Of course.
876
00:43:04,627 --> 00:43:07,196
The Fed will do
something.
877
00:43:08,565 --> 00:43:10,165
They have to.
878
00:43:14,905 --> 00:43:16,872
We've got to announce
the Lehman bankruptcy now.
879
00:43:16,907 --> 00:43:18,874
If Asia opens and
this isn't locked down,
880
00:43:18,909 --> 00:43:20,743
everyone's gonna
assume the worst.
881
00:43:20,777 --> 00:43:22,912
The selloff will kill
the Merrill-B of A deal.
882
00:43:22,946 --> 00:43:25,381
- Who's gonna make the announcement?
- I think it's gotta be S.E.C.
883
00:43:25,415 --> 00:43:26,782
Yeah.
884
00:43:26,816 --> 00:43:29,184
Okay.
885
00:43:32,054 --> 00:43:35,123
Let's do it here.
How soon can we set that up?
886
00:43:35,157 --> 00:43:36,591
Right away.
887
00:43:36,626 --> 00:43:39,260
We could use the main floor,
the entrance hall.
888
00:43:39,295 --> 00:43:41,996
With the statue behind me?
Excellent.
889
00:43:46,034 --> 00:43:48,769
Did Lehman actually
agree to file?
890
00:43:57,212 --> 00:43:59,080
Chris, call Lehman.
891
00:43:59,114 --> 00:44:00,748
Make sure they file
right now.
892
00:44:00,782 --> 00:44:02,616
Absolutely.
893
00:44:14,429 --> 00:44:16,697
A.I.G.'s a huge problem.
894
00:44:16,731 --> 00:44:19,132
The books are a mess.
But from what I can tell,
895
00:44:19,167 --> 00:44:22,201
half the banks in the world
are in bed with these guys.
896
00:44:22,236 --> 00:44:24,571
Everyone who had a
piece-of-crap mortgage security
897
00:44:24,605 --> 00:44:26,707
bought insurance
on their risk from A.I.G.,
898
00:44:26,741 --> 00:44:28,142
and I mean everyone.
899
00:44:28,176 --> 00:44:30,677
How could they
let this happen?
900
00:44:30,712 --> 00:44:34,648
They must have figured
real estate would never go down, ever.
901
00:44:34,682 --> 00:44:37,551
Hank, Lehman still
hasn't filed.
902
00:44:39,587 --> 00:44:42,555
Cox has to make his announcement.
Asia's opening.
903
00:44:42,590 --> 00:44:44,891
Has he talked to them?
904
00:44:44,925 --> 00:44:47,327
He hasn't even
called yet.
905
00:44:47,361 --> 00:44:49,897
We told Fuld about Barclays.
We said Cox was gonna call.
906
00:44:49,931 --> 00:44:51,865
He's got his entire board
sitting there--
907
00:44:51,899 --> 00:44:53,733
no call.
908
00:44:53,768 --> 00:44:55,702
Cox is like a deer
in the headlights.
909
00:44:55,736 --> 00:44:57,838
Son of a bitch!
910
00:45:03,711 --> 00:45:07,414
You are their regulator.
Call the Lehman board now.
911
00:45:07,448 --> 00:45:10,283
Hank, this is a complicated
situation where--
912
00:45:10,317 --> 00:45:12,185
Asia's opening.
913
00:45:12,219 --> 00:45:13,987
They don't announce--
market goes in the toilet.
914
00:45:14,021 --> 00:45:17,056
We have to consider the
appropriate role of government here.
915
00:45:17,091 --> 00:45:19,525
Can I as chairman of S.E.C.
move forward and--?
916
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,028
You guys are like the gang
that can't shoot straight.
917
00:45:22,062 --> 00:45:24,363
This is your job.
918
00:45:24,398 --> 00:45:27,833
Make the damn
phone call.
919
00:45:34,741 --> 00:45:36,842
Chris, this is
Dick Fuld.
920
00:45:36,877 --> 00:45:38,911
The board is in session.
Everyone is here--
921
00:45:38,945 --> 00:45:41,547
all the directors
and the firm's counsel.
922
00:45:41,581 --> 00:45:43,349
We understand
923
00:45:43,383 --> 00:45:45,851
the Barclays deal
has imploded.
924
00:45:45,886 --> 00:45:50,122
We were hoping you might
have some option
925
00:45:50,157 --> 00:45:52,658
that we haven't
thought of yet.
926
00:45:52,692 --> 00:45:56,061
Uh, the markets are
in turmoil, as you know.
927
00:45:56,096 --> 00:45:58,731
A Lehman bankruptcywill help
928
00:45:58,765 --> 00:46:01,566
settle that uncertainty
and, we believe, calm the market.
929
00:46:01,601 --> 00:46:04,403
Both the Fed and SECare in agreement about this.
930
00:46:04,437 --> 00:46:06,099
Well, let me under--
931
00:46:06,124 --> 00:46:07,604
I'm sorry, let me see
if I understand this.
932
00:46:07,606 --> 00:46:09,840
Are-- are you
directing us
933
00:46:09,875 --> 00:46:12,409
to put Lehman
into bankruptcy?
934
00:46:12,444 --> 00:46:14,178
Give us a moment.
935
00:46:15,447 --> 00:46:17,215
- He's muted.
- What the hell was that?
936
00:46:20,352 --> 00:46:22,587
Tell them to file.
937
00:46:22,621 --> 00:46:25,723
Everything said in that meeting
is or will be public record.
938
00:46:25,758 --> 00:46:28,092
I can't tell a private company
to file for bankruptcy.
939
00:46:28,126 --> 00:46:29,793
I don't have
that power.
940
00:46:29,828 --> 00:46:32,262
Do I?
941
00:46:34,799 --> 00:46:36,900
Do it.
942
00:46:48,646 --> 00:46:52,015
The decision to file
for bankruptcy protection
943
00:46:52,049 --> 00:46:55,084
is one the board
needs to make.
944
00:46:55,119 --> 00:46:57,787
It is not the government's
decision.
945
00:46:57,821 --> 00:47:00,490
But we do believe...
946
00:47:02,493 --> 00:47:04,460
That the situation
should be resolved.
947
00:47:04,495 --> 00:47:06,996
So you're not
directing us to file?
948
00:47:07,031 --> 00:47:09,299
I'm not saying anything more
than I've just said.
949
00:47:09,333 --> 00:47:10,934
Thank you.
950
00:47:24,314 --> 00:47:26,615
Take the vote.
951
00:47:28,084 --> 00:47:30,185
- Mr. Akers.
- Yes.
952
00:47:30,220 --> 00:47:33,455
Sir Christopher.
953
00:47:33,490 --> 00:47:34,623
Yes.
954
00:47:34,657 --> 00:47:36,892
Admiral Evans.
955
00:47:36,926 --> 00:47:40,262
I'm sorry, but yes.
956
00:47:40,296 --> 00:47:42,631
Chairman Fuld.
957
00:47:44,835 --> 00:47:46,936
Dick?
958
00:47:52,376 --> 00:47:54,810
Yes.
959
00:47:56,947 --> 00:47:59,048
Mr. Hernandez.
960
00:47:59,082 --> 00:48:01,584
Yes.
961
00:48:01,618 --> 00:48:03,753
Mr. Ainslie.
962
00:48:03,787 --> 00:48:05,555
Yes.
963
00:48:05,589 --> 00:48:08,591
- Mr. Berlind.
- Yes.
964
00:48:08,626 --> 00:48:11,093
- Mr. Cruikshank.
- Yes.
965
00:48:11,128 --> 00:48:14,063
- Dr. Kaufman.
- Yes.
966
00:48:14,097 --> 00:48:17,633
Mr. Macomber.
967
00:48:18,902 --> 00:48:20,636
P?
968
00:48:20,670 --> 00:48:24,139
- Lehman's gone.
- Oh honey.
969
00:48:24,173 --> 00:48:26,141
I should have know the British
were gonna be a problem.
970
00:48:26,175 --> 00:48:28,710
I spoke to them two days ago.
I should have read between the lines.
971
00:48:31,714 --> 00:48:34,149
You can't
take all this on.
972
00:48:34,183 --> 00:48:37,185
There's a lot of
other people involved.
973
00:48:37,220 --> 00:48:40,022
It's on me.
I'm Treasury Secretary
974
00:48:40,056 --> 00:48:42,458
and the fourth largest
investment bank in the country
975
00:48:42,492 --> 00:48:45,193
failed on my watch.
976
00:48:45,228 --> 00:48:48,963
I mean, I-- I--
977
00:48:48,998 --> 00:48:51,866
I don't know
what's gonna happen.
978
00:48:54,003 --> 00:48:56,270
Miss you too.
979
00:49:41,449 --> 00:49:43,783
Taxi.
980
00:49:57,199 --> 00:49:59,768
Jim, I'm at Midtown.
981
00:49:59,802 --> 00:50:03,138
The ticker is--
982
00:50:03,173 --> 00:50:05,475
what the hell
am I looking at?
983
00:50:05,509 --> 00:50:07,844
Hank, it's good.
984
00:50:12,717 --> 00:50:14,819
"It is oddly reassuring
985
00:50:14,854 --> 00:50:17,722
that the Treasury Department
and the Federal Reserve
986
00:50:17,757 --> 00:50:19,291
let Lehman Brothers fail."
987
00:50:19,326 --> 00:50:21,294
Oh, okay, here it is.
Here it is.
988
00:50:21,328 --> 00:50:23,663
Government intervention
would have been seen
989
00:50:23,697 --> 00:50:25,465
a sign of extreme peril
990
00:50:25,500 --> 00:50:27,501
in the global
financial system
991
00:50:27,535 --> 00:50:30,472
or extreme weakness
on the part of federal regulators."
992
00:50:30,506 --> 00:50:32,674
"The New York"
fucking "Times."
993
00:50:32,708 --> 00:50:35,644
Yeah, and it's not just them.
It's everybody.
994
00:50:35,678 --> 00:50:39,314
Thank you, Senator.
I appreciate it.
995
00:50:39,349 --> 00:50:41,750
Congress is liking it.
996
00:50:41,785 --> 00:50:43,952
I'm not sure they should be
so happy about this,
997
00:50:43,987 --> 00:50:47,022
but they like
that we let Lehman go.
998
00:50:47,056 --> 00:50:50,225
You stood strong.
You've got brass balls.
999
00:50:50,259 --> 00:50:52,360
It's what people need
at a time like this.
1000
00:50:52,395 --> 00:50:54,495
What is
the market doing?
1001
00:50:54,530 --> 00:50:56,230
Uh, Europe's only down
a little.
1002
00:50:56,264 --> 00:50:58,131
Dow Jones futures
only off 3%.
1003
00:50:58,165 --> 00:51:00,365
So you need to build on this
at the press conference.
1004
00:51:00,399 --> 00:51:03,567
The story is we did everything
we could for Lehman.
1005
00:51:03,601 --> 00:51:05,301
- We did.
- And the takeaway is...
1006
00:51:05,336 --> 00:51:08,036
No more bailouts.
1007
00:51:08,071 --> 00:51:09,705
Mr. Secretary.
1008
00:51:09,739 --> 00:51:11,606
How should we read
what happened with Lehman?
1009
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:13,641
Read it as
I think it's important
1010
00:51:13,675 --> 00:51:16,109
to maintain
the stability
1011
00:51:16,143 --> 00:51:19,779
and orderliness
of our financial system;
1012
00:51:19,813 --> 00:51:24,884
and, um, the...
1013
00:51:24,919 --> 00:51:28,254
Moral hazard is something
I don't take lightly.
1014
00:51:28,289 --> 00:51:30,356
Mr. Paulson.
Mr. Secretary, sir.
1015
00:51:30,390 --> 00:51:33,726
How do you see the healthof the banking system today?
1016
00:51:33,761 --> 00:51:35,762
The way the markets
are performing today--
1017
00:51:35,796 --> 00:51:38,865
it's a testament to how the
financial industry has come together
1018
00:51:38,900 --> 00:51:41,001
in an extraordinary set
of circumstances.
1019
00:51:41,035 --> 00:51:43,003
The American people
can remain confident
1020
00:51:43,037 --> 00:51:45,405
in the soundness
and the resilience
1021
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,707
of the financial
system.
1022
00:51:47,742 --> 00:51:49,276
Thank you all.
1023
00:51:49,310 --> 00:51:52,012
Mr. Secretary.
Mr. Paulson.
1024
00:51:52,046 --> 00:51:54,181
What?
1025
00:51:54,215 --> 00:51:56,983
Dow's falling off a cliff--
400 points already.
1026
00:51:57,018 --> 00:51:59,085
And the credit markets
are frozen.
1027
00:51:59,119 --> 00:52:01,954
Goldman and Morgan Stanley
are getting slammed by withdrawals.
1028
00:52:01,988 --> 00:52:04,156
The Lehman thing's
killing them.
1029
00:52:05,592 --> 00:52:07,426
I should talk
to the President
1030
00:52:07,461 --> 00:52:10,028
about how we'll contain
the damage.
1031
00:52:10,063 --> 00:52:12,531
Before you speak
to the President,
1032
00:52:12,565 --> 00:52:14,733
we've had
another problem.
1033
00:52:16,101 --> 00:52:17,735
A.I.G.
1034
00:52:17,769 --> 00:52:20,270
Mr. Geithner is
working with A.I.G.
1035
00:52:20,305 --> 00:52:22,105
on a private-sector
solution
1036
00:52:22,140 --> 00:52:24,108
and the Secretary
is monitoring
1037
00:52:24,142 --> 00:52:26,043
their progress
very carefully.
1038
00:52:26,078 --> 00:52:30,682
He's in close contact with the
Congressional leadership, most--
1039
00:52:30,716 --> 00:52:32,551
the White House wants
a briefing on A.I.G.
1040
00:52:32,585 --> 00:52:34,386
They're more informed
about that than we are.
1041
00:52:34,421 --> 00:52:36,054
We've got the same
information they do.
1042
00:52:36,088 --> 00:52:39,056
No, we don't believe
that Lehman's bankruptcy
1043
00:52:39,091 --> 00:52:41,092
is taking down
all of Wall Street.
1044
00:52:41,126 --> 00:52:42,961
Okay, so how do you explain--?
1045
00:52:42,995 --> 00:52:44,963
The A.I.G. situation
may have been,
1046
00:52:44,998 --> 00:52:47,733
you know,
exacerbated by the--
1047
00:52:47,768 --> 00:52:49,735
and Barney Frank's
office.
1048
00:52:50,971 --> 00:52:52,204
Yeah.
1049
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,574
A surprise?
No, A.I.G. has been struggling--
1050
00:52:55,609 --> 00:52:58,644
Well, why didn't you guys headoff this situation six months ago?
1051
00:52:58,678 --> 00:53:02,446
Because the requisite
magic wand wasn't available, Doug.
1052
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,247
But if we do find one,
1053
00:53:04,281 --> 00:53:06,715
you will be among
the very first to know.
1054
00:53:07,617 --> 00:53:09,951
Blankfein on four,
urgent.
1055
00:53:09,985 --> 00:53:12,420
I have to go.
1056
00:53:12,454 --> 00:53:13,988
Hey Lloyd.
1057
00:53:14,022 --> 00:53:16,323
The goddamn British
bankruptcy administrator
1058
00:53:16,357 --> 00:53:18,626
froze all of Lehman's
customer accounts.
1059
00:53:18,660 --> 00:53:21,263
You didn't square this with
the British before you did it?
1060
00:53:21,298 --> 00:53:22,898
Geithner on five.
1061
00:53:22,933 --> 00:53:24,633
People are freaking out.
1062
00:53:24,668 --> 00:53:26,669
They can't get
their money.
1063
00:53:26,703 --> 00:53:29,038
Not investors--
clients.
1064
00:53:29,072 --> 00:53:31,674
If customers think their money
wasn't safe with Lehman,
1065
00:53:31,708 --> 00:53:33,509
they're not gonna
trust us either.
1066
00:53:33,543 --> 00:53:36,778
No one will do
business with us.
1067
00:53:36,812 --> 00:53:38,511
You're gonna have
to hang on.
1068
00:53:38,546 --> 00:53:39,944
Tim.
1069
00:53:39,978 --> 00:53:42,412
Dan spoke to Moody's.
They're downgrading A.I.G. tonight.
1070
00:53:42,447 --> 00:53:45,880
Would have happened anyway, but Lehman
put the whole thing into hyperdrive.
1071
00:53:45,915 --> 00:53:47,482
How far down
are they?
1072
00:53:47,516 --> 00:53:49,150
French finance minsteron six.
1073
00:53:49,184 --> 00:53:51,418
They don't know.
1074
00:53:51,452 --> 00:53:54,086
We're working on that.
1075
00:53:54,121 --> 00:53:55,954
Christine.
1076
00:53:55,988 --> 00:53:57,822
How could you let this
happen with Lehman?
1077
00:53:57,856 --> 00:53:59,456
What on earth
were you thinking?
1078
00:53:59,491 --> 00:54:02,291
We did everything
we could, Christine.
1079
00:54:02,326 --> 00:54:04,526
You allowed it
to fail, Hank.
1080
00:54:04,561 --> 00:54:06,327
It was a horrifying
mistake.
1081
00:54:06,362 --> 00:54:09,029
It is having catastrophic
consequences all over Europe.
1082
00:54:09,063 --> 00:54:11,230
And A.I.G. would be
even worse.
1083
00:54:11,265 --> 00:54:14,832
The European banks have
tremendous exposure to A.I.G.
1084
00:54:14,867 --> 00:54:18,335
We need assurance you will not
fail to act as you did with Lehman.
1085
00:54:18,369 --> 00:54:21,070
It is not just
an American problem.
1086
00:54:22,405 --> 00:54:23,838
Thank you so much for...
1087
00:54:23,872 --> 00:54:25,106
John Mack.
1088
00:54:25,140 --> 00:54:26,640
Hey-- uh...
1089
00:54:26,674 --> 00:54:28,775
- John.
- Secretary: John-- one.
1090
00:54:29,943 --> 00:54:33,179
The fallout from Lehmanis killing us.
1091
00:54:33,213 --> 00:54:35,447
The short-sellers
are all over us.
1092
00:54:35,481 --> 00:54:36,981
We're down
10% already.
1093
00:54:37,015 --> 00:54:39,483
You guys have no idea
what's going on out here.
1094
00:54:39,517 --> 00:54:41,985
How are your earnings?
1095
00:54:42,019 --> 00:54:44,554
Strong. We're gonna
announce Friday.
1096
00:54:44,588 --> 00:54:45,855
Announce now.
1097
00:54:47,424 --> 00:54:49,559
Okay, Lloyd, sorry.
1098
00:54:49,593 --> 00:54:52,661
Hank, if depositors see they can't
get their assets out of Lehman,
1099
00:54:52,696 --> 00:54:54,663
the next step is gonna be
a massive pullout
1100
00:54:54,698 --> 00:54:56,833
from all the investment banks.
1101
00:54:56,867 --> 00:54:58,468
Jeff Immelt from G.E.
1102
00:54:59,838 --> 00:55:02,239
Jesus, what's Immelt
calling you for?
1103
00:55:02,273 --> 00:55:04,108
I have to go.
1104
00:55:04,142 --> 00:55:05,542
Jeff.
1105
00:55:05,577 --> 00:55:07,678
You gotta know
what's going on out here.
1106
00:55:07,712 --> 00:55:10,947
We're having trouble funding
our day-to-day operations.
1107
00:55:10,982 --> 00:55:14,484
Our finance division is infectingthe rest of our business.
1108
00:55:14,519 --> 00:55:16,353
General Electric?
1109
00:55:16,387 --> 00:55:19,489
This thing is spreading
way past Wall Street.
1110
00:55:19,523 --> 00:55:22,124
I get that nobody wants
to touch mortgages,
1111
00:55:22,159 --> 00:55:25,260
but we're making planes
and engines, and light bulbs.
1112
00:55:25,295 --> 00:55:27,730
We're a healthy company.
1113
00:55:27,764 --> 00:55:30,799
If we can't finance
our day-to-day operations,
1114
00:55:30,834 --> 00:55:34,303
every business in America's
gonna be shutting down.
1115
00:55:41,877 --> 00:55:44,078
Where's A.I.G.?
1116
00:55:44,112 --> 00:55:45,412
It closed at $2.
1117
00:55:45,447 --> 00:55:47,848
Tim thinks we need
to do something big.
1118
00:55:47,882 --> 00:55:49,283
Ben agrees,
and so do I.
1119
00:55:49,317 --> 00:55:51,318
What can we do?
A.I.G.'s not even a bank.
1120
00:55:51,352 --> 00:55:53,320
The Fed can lend
to nonbanks
1121
00:55:53,354 --> 00:55:56,056
under unusual and
exigent circumstances.
1122
00:55:56,090 --> 00:55:59,827
We're thinking of taking over
80% of the company.
1123
00:56:02,097 --> 00:56:04,632
Hank, we can't.
1124
00:56:04,666 --> 00:56:07,735
This morning we were lecturing
the entire country on moral hazard.
1125
00:56:07,770 --> 00:56:10,572
A.I.G. has collateral.
They have assets.
1126
00:56:10,606 --> 00:56:14,008
Lehman didn't.
We couldn't lend into a hole.
1127
00:56:14,043 --> 00:56:15,811
It's not
the same story.
1128
00:56:15,845 --> 00:56:17,779
Nobody's gonna care.
1129
00:56:17,814 --> 00:56:20,583
It's another bailout
with no legislation.
1130
00:56:20,617 --> 00:56:22,785
The Hill's gonna go crazy.
The country's gonna go crazy.
1131
00:56:22,819 --> 00:56:24,820
The plane that we
flew in on this morning--
1132
00:56:24,854 --> 00:56:26,788
leased from A.I.G.
1133
00:56:26,822 --> 00:56:29,023
Construction downtown--
A.I.G.
1134
00:56:29,057 --> 00:56:31,992
Life insurance--
81 million policies
1135
00:56:32,027 --> 00:56:34,328
with a face value
of $1.9 trillion,
1136
00:56:34,363 --> 00:56:37,632
billions of dollars in teachers' pensions--
it's everywhere.
1137
00:56:37,666 --> 00:56:40,234
You want too big to fail?
Here it is.
1138
00:56:40,268 --> 00:56:42,236
You got a better idea?
1139
00:56:42,270 --> 00:56:44,437
The suggestion box
is wide open.
1140
00:56:51,178 --> 00:56:53,746
I hate to do this
right now,
1141
00:56:53,781 --> 00:56:56,082
but I'm gonna have to have
a press call first thing,
1142
00:56:56,117 --> 00:56:58,151
and I really don't know
what I'm gonna tell them.
1143
00:56:58,185 --> 00:57:00,821
Tell them Lehman
exacerbated A.I.G.,
1144
00:57:00,856 --> 00:57:03,524
the simultaneous
payouts of C.D.O.s
1145
00:57:03,559 --> 00:57:06,161
and credit default swaps
put catastrophic pressure on--
1146
00:57:06,195 --> 00:57:09,365
Go back further.
1147
00:57:09,399 --> 00:57:11,667
The global pool
of investment capital--
1148
00:57:11,701 --> 00:57:13,802
she has to do this
in English.
1149
00:57:13,836 --> 00:57:15,937
Start with
the homeowners.
1150
00:57:15,971 --> 00:57:18,906
Okay okay, here's how
you explain it.
1151
00:57:18,940 --> 00:57:23,476
Wall Street
started bundling
1152
00:57:23,511 --> 00:57:25,612
home loans together--
mortgage-backed securities--
1153
00:57:25,646 --> 00:57:28,915
and selling slicesof those bundles to investors.
1154
00:57:28,950 --> 00:57:31,185
And they were makingbig money,
1155
00:57:31,219 --> 00:57:33,454
so they started pushing
the lenders, saying,
1156
00:57:33,488 --> 00:57:35,523
"come on,
we need more loans.
1157
00:57:35,557 --> 00:57:37,526
The lenders had
already given loans
1158
00:57:37,561 --> 00:57:39,530
to borrowers
with good credit,
1159
00:57:39,565 --> 00:57:42,100
so they go bottom-feeding.
They lower their criteria.
1160
00:57:42,135 --> 00:57:44,804
Before, you needed
a credit score of 620
1161
00:57:44,838 --> 00:57:47,006
and a downpayment
of 20%.
1162
00:57:47,041 --> 00:57:49,542
Now they'll settle for 500,
no money down.
1163
00:57:49,577 --> 00:57:51,778
And the buyer--the regular guy on the street--
1164
00:57:51,812 --> 00:57:53,580
assumes that the experts
know what they're doing.
1165
00:57:53,614 --> 00:57:56,182
He's saying to himself,"if the bank's willing to loan me money,
1166
00:57:56,216 --> 00:57:57,950
I must be able
to afford it."
1167
00:57:57,984 --> 00:58:00,286
So he reaches for
the American dream.
1168
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:01,854
He buys that house.
1169
00:58:01,888 --> 00:58:05,090
The banks knew securities based on
shitbag mortgages were risky.
1170
00:58:05,124 --> 00:58:06,558
You'll work on "shitbag."
1171
00:58:06,593 --> 00:58:08,126
So to control
their downside,
1172
00:58:08,161 --> 00:58:09,962
the banks started buying
a kind of insurance.
1173
00:58:09,996 --> 00:58:13,098
If mortgages default,insurance company pays--
1174
00:58:13,133 --> 00:58:14,900
default swap.
1175
00:58:14,934 --> 00:58:17,069
The banks insure
their potential losses
1176
00:58:17,103 --> 00:58:18,871
to move the risk
off their books
1177
00:58:18,905 --> 00:58:21,206
so they can invest more,
make more money.
1178
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,408
And when a lot of companies
insured this stuff,
1179
00:58:23,443 --> 00:58:26,945
one was dumb enough to take on
an almost unbelievable amount of risk.
1180
00:58:26,979 --> 00:58:29,414
- A.I.G.
- And you'll work on "dumb."
1181
00:58:29,448 --> 00:58:31,649
And when they ask me
why they did that?
1182
00:58:31,683 --> 00:58:34,018
- Fees.
- Hundreds of millions in fees.
1183
00:58:34,052 --> 00:58:36,621
A.I.G. figured the housing market
would just keep going up,
1184
00:58:36,655 --> 00:58:38,089
but then
the unexpected happens.
1185
00:58:38,123 --> 00:58:40,258
Housing prices
go down.
1186
00:58:40,292 --> 00:58:42,093
The poor bastard whobought his dream house--
1187
00:58:42,127 --> 00:58:44,261
the teaser rate on his
mortgage runs out.
1188
00:58:44,296 --> 00:58:46,864
His payments go up.
He defaults.
1189
00:58:46,898 --> 00:58:48,666
Mortgage-backed
securities tank.
1190
00:58:48,700 --> 00:58:50,634
A.I.G. has to pay off
the swaps--
1191
00:58:50,669 --> 00:58:52,903
all of them
all over the world
1192
00:58:52,938 --> 00:58:54,939
at the same time.
1193
00:58:54,973 --> 00:58:58,075
A.I.G. can't pay.A.I.G. goes under.
1194
00:58:58,109 --> 00:59:00,477
Every bank
they insure
1195
00:59:00,511 --> 00:59:04,314
books massive losses
on the same day.
1196
00:59:04,349 --> 00:59:06,517
And then they all
go under.
1197
00:59:06,551 --> 00:59:08,919
It all comes down.
1198
00:59:09,921 --> 00:59:12,422
The whole financial system?
1199
00:59:17,228 --> 00:59:19,496
And what do I say
1200
00:59:19,531 --> 00:59:22,265
when they ask me
why it wasn't regulated?
1201
00:59:22,300 --> 00:59:26,136
No one wanted to.
1202
00:59:26,170 --> 00:59:29,506
We were making
too much money.
1203
00:59:39,384 --> 00:59:41,318
You'll work on
1204
00:59:41,352 --> 00:59:43,954
"we were making
too much money."
1205
00:59:56,301 --> 00:59:58,569
Hey, Hank,
1206
00:59:58,603 --> 01:00:01,105
um...
1207
01:00:01,139 --> 01:00:03,140
These are
really mild,
1208
01:00:03,174 --> 01:00:05,275
but they work.
1209
01:00:05,310 --> 01:00:08,411
I know the whole
Christian Scientist thing--
1210
01:00:08,446 --> 01:00:11,649
that you don't
take medicine.
1211
01:00:11,683 --> 01:00:14,351
But you need
to sleep.
1212
01:00:16,388 --> 01:00:18,088
Jim--
1213
01:00:18,123 --> 01:00:20,424
Hank, not just
for your own sake.
1214
01:00:20,458 --> 01:00:22,559
Okay?
1215
01:00:26,631 --> 01:00:28,766
You don't look
so good.
1216
01:00:33,338 --> 01:00:35,873
Just minutes ago
CNN has confirmed
1217
01:00:35,907 --> 01:00:38,142
that the Federal Reserve
is negotiating
1218
01:00:38,176 --> 01:00:40,511
to rescue
insurance giant AIG
1219
01:00:40,545 --> 01:00:42,513
The negotiations
could include
1220
01:00:42,548 --> 01:00:44,983
an $85 billion
temporary loan
1221
01:00:45,017 --> 01:00:47,185
to stave off
AIG's imminent collapse.
1222
01:00:47,220 --> 01:00:48,820
This is a blockbuster,
folks.
1223
01:00:48,854 --> 01:00:51,322
About this time last night,many on Wall Street
1224
01:00:51,357 --> 01:00:53,490
were fearingtotal disaster today.
1225
01:00:53,525 --> 01:00:55,492
So anotherfederal bailout
1226
01:00:55,526 --> 01:00:57,393
of anotherWall Street giant--
1227
01:00:57,428 --> 01:00:59,962
again, as we mentioned,big big financial news.
1228
01:00:59,997 --> 01:01:03,633
And this affects almost everyoneout there who has a 401k.
1229
01:01:03,667 --> 01:01:05,501
The news comesabout 3 1/2 hours
1230
01:01:05,536 --> 01:01:07,870
after the stock exchangeclosed on...
1231
01:01:07,905 --> 01:01:10,640
Motherfucker.
1232
01:01:10,674 --> 01:01:12,708
We want to go straight
right now to Ali Velshi
1233
01:01:12,743 --> 01:01:14,877
to kind of give us
a bottom line on this, Ali.
1234
01:01:14,911 --> 01:01:17,046
And then we're gonna geta lot more in depth...
1235
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:18,748
AIG securing an 85...
1236
01:01:18,782 --> 01:01:20,749
The credit markets
are still frozen solid.
1237
01:01:20,783 --> 01:01:22,752
We keep dumping money
into these companies
1238
01:01:22,786 --> 01:01:25,988
so the markets
will stabilize,
1239
01:01:26,023 --> 01:01:27,456
and nothing helps.
1240
01:01:27,491 --> 01:01:30,126
We can't keep
doing this.
1241
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,762
We rescued Bear
with no legislation,
1242
01:01:32,796 --> 01:01:36,198
A.I.G. with no legislation.
1243
01:01:36,233 --> 01:01:38,601
People think Fannie and Freddie
was a bait-and-switch.
1244
01:01:38,635 --> 01:01:40,202
I don't like it
any more than you do,
1245
01:01:40,237 --> 01:01:42,137
but they were
exceptional situations.
1246
01:01:42,172 --> 01:01:45,174
This situation
demands an endgame
1247
01:01:45,208 --> 01:01:48,443
that does not rely on
unilateral action from the Fed.
1248
01:01:48,477 --> 01:01:50,111
This is a democracy.
1249
01:01:50,145 --> 01:01:52,747
We cannot be men behind the
curtain pulling the strings.
1250
01:01:52,782 --> 01:01:54,917
We need some kind ofan overall solution
1251
01:01:54,951 --> 01:01:57,286
that healsthe entire system.
1252
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,488
And it has to belegitimate.
1253
01:01:59,522 --> 01:02:01,123
We've been putting off
going to Congress.
1254
01:02:01,157 --> 01:02:03,058
It's two months
before an election.
1255
01:02:03,093 --> 01:02:06,261
They can't vote yes
to a massive bailout
1256
01:02:06,296 --> 01:02:08,030
of the entire
banking system.
1257
01:02:08,064 --> 01:02:09,531
They'd never get
reelected.
1258
01:02:09,566 --> 01:02:11,533
- Hank--
- We go to Congress,
1259
01:02:11,567 --> 01:02:14,136
publically state
we don't have the firepower
1260
01:02:14,170 --> 01:02:16,638
to control this
anymore,
1261
01:02:16,672 --> 01:02:18,673
and then they say no--
1262
01:02:18,708 --> 01:02:22,811
that is really
the nightmare scenario.
1263
01:02:22,845 --> 01:02:27,415
The nightmare scenario's
already here, my friend.
1264
01:02:27,450 --> 01:02:30,819
We're in it.
1265
01:03:30,145 --> 01:03:32,246
P.
1266
01:03:43,157 --> 01:03:45,191
You can't put this all
on your own shoulders.
1267
01:03:45,226 --> 01:03:46,926
We're running out
of options.
1268
01:03:46,961 --> 01:03:49,496
Then you just
keep trying.
1269
01:03:49,530 --> 01:03:51,631
That's what you do.
1270
01:03:51,666 --> 01:03:53,800
Eventually
something's gonna work.
1271
01:03:53,834 --> 01:03:56,770
I'm not sure that
that is true anymore.
1272
01:03:56,804 --> 01:03:59,339
There's not a bank
in the world
1273
01:03:59,373 --> 01:04:01,341
that has enough money
in its vault
1274
01:04:01,375 --> 01:04:02,842
to pay
its depositors.
1275
01:04:02,876 --> 01:04:05,478
It's all built
on trust.
1276
01:04:05,512 --> 01:04:07,780
And--
and, Wendy, we--
1277
01:04:07,815 --> 01:04:11,384
we are
so very close.
1278
01:04:14,321 --> 01:04:18,057
Morgan Stanley, Goldman
are an inch away.
1279
01:04:18,092 --> 01:04:20,827
If the other banks
stop trusting them,
1280
01:04:20,861 --> 01:04:23,830
if they pull back
on interbank lending,
1281
01:04:23,864 --> 01:04:26,132
it's over
in a matter of hours.
1282
01:04:26,166 --> 01:04:28,667
And from there
it goes
1283
01:04:28,702 --> 01:04:30,669
too fast to stop--
a run--
1284
01:04:30,704 --> 01:04:33,439
and not just
on that one bank.
1285
01:04:33,473 --> 01:04:35,441
I mean,
on the whole system.
1286
01:04:35,475 --> 01:04:38,343
And average people
wondering,
1287
01:04:38,378 --> 01:04:40,812
"is my money safe?"
1288
01:04:40,846 --> 01:04:43,747
They start pulling
their cash.
1289
01:04:45,717 --> 01:04:47,651
And after that--
1290
01:04:47,685 --> 01:04:50,921
lines outside the banks,
smashed A.T.M.s.
1291
01:04:50,956 --> 01:04:54,326
A couple of weeks--
1292
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:57,329
there's no milk
in the store.
1293
01:04:57,363 --> 01:04:59,231
For the second timethis week
1294
01:04:59,265 --> 01:05:01,066
there was a massive selloffon Wall Street,
1295
01:05:01,100 --> 01:05:04,669
the Dow Jones Industrialsfreefalling some 450 points
1296
01:05:04,704 --> 01:05:06,671
on news ofa taxpayer-funded bailout
1297
01:05:06,706 --> 01:05:08,607
of the A.I.G.Insurance company.
1298
01:05:08,641 --> 01:05:11,009
Three of the fiveinvestment banks are gone.
1299
01:05:11,043 --> 01:05:13,445
The country's biggestmortgage lender is gone.
1300
01:05:13,479 --> 01:05:16,215
Fannie Mae and Freddie Macbrought under government control.
1301
01:05:16,249 --> 01:05:18,351
The financial systemis holding right now,
1302
01:05:18,385 --> 01:05:19,986
but for how long?
1303
01:05:20,021 --> 01:05:22,656
All the King's horsesand all the King's men
1304
01:05:22,691 --> 01:05:25,092
are being brought to bearto keep this thing together.
1305
01:05:51,715 --> 01:05:52,848
Hi Tim.
1306
01:05:52,882 --> 01:05:54,816
I'm on the street, Hank,
1307
01:05:54,850 --> 01:05:57,018
and people are just
going about their business.
1308
01:05:57,052 --> 01:06:00,354
They have no idea the whole
thing is about to fall down.
1309
01:06:00,388 --> 01:06:02,922
We're gonna have togo to Congress.
1310
01:06:02,957 --> 01:06:04,524
We don't havea choice anymore.
1311
01:06:04,558 --> 01:06:06,225
Okay.
1312
01:06:06,260 --> 01:06:08,260
How fast do you think
you can get them to move?
1313
01:06:08,294 --> 01:06:10,462
It's gonna be at least
a couple days.
1314
01:06:10,496 --> 01:06:13,699
Goldman and Morgan Stanley
are going down now.
1315
01:06:13,733 --> 01:06:15,401
We gotta do
something today.
1316
01:06:15,435 --> 01:06:16,602
Like what?
1317
01:06:16,636 --> 01:06:18,737
The market doesn't like
investment banks, right?
1318
01:06:18,772 --> 01:06:21,173
The money's saying fuck you
to the whole business model.
1319
01:06:21,207 --> 01:06:22,708
Yeah.
1320
01:06:22,742 --> 01:06:25,811
Yeah, so merge them
with commercial banks,
1321
01:06:25,846 --> 01:06:27,947
turn them into regular banks
regulated by the Fed.
1322
01:06:27,981 --> 01:06:29,682
They can use
depositors' cash.
1323
01:06:29,716 --> 01:06:31,684
It will give them access
to the discount window.
1324
01:06:31,719 --> 01:06:34,654
It's cheap government cash.
1325
01:06:34,688 --> 01:06:37,557
- You want to make them bigger?
- It's a trade-off, Hank.
1326
01:06:37,591 --> 01:06:41,494
The upside is
it'll stabilize them.
1327
01:06:41,529 --> 01:06:44,063
The downside is,
1328
01:06:44,098 --> 01:06:48,068
yeah, they'll be
really fucking big.
1329
01:06:48,102 --> 01:06:50,304
Do it, Tim.
1330
01:06:52,274 --> 01:06:54,142
Godspeed.
1331
01:07:11,497 --> 01:07:14,066
Get me Blankfein.
1332
01:07:15,568 --> 01:07:17,837
Lloyd, call Vikram Pandit,
talk to him about a merger.
1333
01:07:17,871 --> 01:07:19,873
Tim, we're looking
at all our options.
1334
01:07:19,907 --> 01:07:21,875
You don't have
options, Lloyd.
1335
01:07:21,910 --> 01:07:23,377
There's a run
on your bank.
1336
01:07:23,411 --> 01:07:25,246
You need money--
Citi has deposits.
1337
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:28,149
Citi is a mess--
you're organized. Call Pandit.
1338
01:07:37,562 --> 01:07:38,903
Yeah.
1339
01:07:38,928 --> 01:07:40,628
I want you to look at merging
with Morgan Stanley.
1340
01:07:40,632 --> 01:07:42,567
What, are you kidding me?
I just bought Bear.
1341
01:07:42,601 --> 01:07:44,202
We're still trying
to make that work.
1342
01:07:44,236 --> 01:07:46,338
You didn't buy Bear.
You got Bear as a Christmas present.
1343
01:07:46,372 --> 01:07:48,207
The market's a fucking
disaster, Jamie.
1344
01:07:48,241 --> 01:07:50,376
Talk to John Mack.
1345
01:07:50,410 --> 01:07:53,145
Hey, Geithner says
we should talk about a merger.
1346
01:07:53,180 --> 01:07:55,281
- You want to do a deal?
- No.
1347
01:07:55,315 --> 01:07:57,450
Then why the fuck did he
tell me to call you?
1348
01:07:57,485 --> 01:07:59,686
I'm under orders
to try and help you.
1349
01:07:59,721 --> 01:08:03,124
You're a prince, Jamie--
a real prince.
1350
01:08:06,662 --> 01:08:08,931
Apparently some people
seem to think
1351
01:08:08,965 --> 01:08:11,166
combining our firms
would be a good idea.
1352
01:08:11,201 --> 01:08:14,136
Well, I want you to know
I'm flattered by this call.
1353
01:08:14,171 --> 01:08:16,305
Vikram,
I'm not trying
1354
01:08:16,340 --> 01:08:18,408
to flatter you,
believe me.
1355
01:08:18,442 --> 01:08:20,009
Geithner's calling.
1356
01:08:20,044 --> 01:08:22,412
Oh, here comes
goddamn eharmony.
1357
01:08:22,446 --> 01:08:24,915
Hey, guess what.
Jaime's not interested.
1358
01:08:26,818 --> 01:08:28,953
Do Wachovia.
1359
01:08:28,988 --> 01:08:31,122
They were writing mortgages
with their eyes closed.
1360
01:08:31,156 --> 01:08:33,324
Tim, it's a shit sandwich.
Forget it.
1361
01:08:38,996 --> 01:08:41,198
Well, I haven't been
able to reach you for four hours.
1362
01:08:41,232 --> 01:08:44,601
That is-- that is totally fucking
unacceptable on a day like today.
1363
01:08:44,636 --> 01:08:47,571
I had to run my team
through the Goldman proposal.
1364
01:08:47,605 --> 01:08:49,239
It's not gonna work.
1365
01:08:49,273 --> 01:08:52,675
You passed on Goldman
without even talking to me?
1366
01:08:52,709 --> 01:08:55,878
I don't need another trillion
dollars on my balance sheet.
1367
01:08:59,616 --> 01:09:03,686
Next time I call,
pick up.
1368
01:09:04,588 --> 01:09:06,723
Fucker.
1369
01:09:06,757 --> 01:09:09,859
The problem is the toxic assets.
Let's just buy them.
1370
01:09:09,893 --> 01:09:12,127
Ooh, call it
cash-for-trash.
1371
01:09:12,162 --> 01:09:14,862
When the market stabilizes,we'll unload them.
1372
01:09:14,896 --> 01:09:16,963
Hopefully Treasury will
get its money back.
1373
01:09:16,997 --> 01:09:19,531
- Is that in the break-the-glass plan?
- Basically.
1374
01:09:19,532 --> 01:09:21,518
My copy's missing some pages.
1375
01:09:21,543 --> 01:09:22,884
Could someone else show me
the rest of--
1376
01:09:22,886 --> 01:09:24,953
It's succinct.
1377
01:09:25,034 --> 01:09:27,201
We've got one shot
with Congress.
1378
01:09:27,236 --> 01:09:30,870
You want them to write a piece
of legislation based on three pages?
1379
01:09:30,904 --> 01:09:32,237
Look, guys,
1380
01:09:32,272 --> 01:09:34,505
buying toxic assets
is gonna be a nightmare.
1381
01:09:34,539 --> 01:09:36,339
Nobody knows what
the stuff's worth.
1382
01:09:36,373 --> 01:09:39,140
It'll take forever to untangle.
These banks are going down now.
1383
01:09:39,174 --> 01:09:40,307
So what do we do?
1384
01:09:40,341 --> 01:09:42,009
You want to unfreeze
credit, right?
1385
01:09:42,043 --> 01:09:43,644
You want the banks
to lend people money?
1386
01:09:43,678 --> 01:09:46,614
- That's the goal.
- So give them money to lend.
1387
01:09:49,017 --> 01:09:50,918
Capital injections?
1388
01:09:50,952 --> 01:09:52,518
Dan, come on.
1389
01:09:52,543 --> 01:09:53,944
I can't believe you're
pulling out the "n" word.
1390
01:09:53,945 --> 01:09:55,200
I'm not saying
nationalize the banks.
1391
01:09:55,225 --> 01:09:56,455
I'm saying isolate the ones
1392
01:09:56,457 --> 01:09:58,424
that are really in trouble
and make an investment.
1393
01:09:58,459 --> 01:09:59,826
It's unamerican.
1394
01:09:59,860 --> 01:10:01,794
It's-- it's sure
unrepublican.
1395
01:10:01,828 --> 01:10:04,296
You make the government
a stockholder--
1396
01:10:04,330 --> 01:10:06,098
what, do we tell them
1397
01:10:06,132 --> 01:10:08,700
how to manage themselves,
what to buy and sell?
1398
01:10:08,735 --> 01:10:10,552
Run them like the post Office?
1399
01:10:10,577 --> 01:10:11,769
'Cause that works
like a dream.
1400
01:10:11,770 --> 01:10:13,236
We make it
temporary.
1401
01:10:13,270 --> 01:10:15,804
We make ourselves
nonvoting stockholders.
1402
01:10:15,838 --> 01:10:18,871
You can't just hand the banks
massive piles of cash.
1403
01:10:18,906 --> 01:10:20,739
Nobody's gonna
go for it.
1404
01:10:20,774 --> 01:10:22,541
To the Republican's
it's nationalization.
1405
01:10:22,575 --> 01:10:24,342
To the Democrats
it's a bailout.
1406
01:10:24,376 --> 01:10:26,410
And the banks are
gonna go ballistic.
1407
01:10:26,444 --> 01:10:29,246
Sorry, Dan,
not gonna happen.
1408
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:31,213
Kudos for
out-of-the-box thinking.
1409
01:10:31,247 --> 01:10:33,947
Neel, if we go with your
plan to buy the assets,
1410
01:10:33,982 --> 01:10:36,282
how much is it
gonna cost?
1411
01:10:36,316 --> 01:10:37,683
It won't work.
1412
01:10:37,717 --> 01:10:41,118
Look, the plan is
three pages long, totally vague.
1413
01:10:41,153 --> 01:10:43,053
If buying the assets
doesn't work,
1414
01:10:43,087 --> 01:10:45,021
we'll nationalize
the banks for you, okay?
1415
01:10:45,055 --> 01:10:46,489
How much?
1416
01:10:46,523 --> 01:10:49,758
To be safe,
maybe a trillion.
1417
01:10:49,792 --> 01:10:53,093
The Congress will never do
a trillion-- never.
1418
01:10:53,127 --> 01:10:56,729
Well, there's $11 trillion
in residential mortgages.
1419
01:10:56,764 --> 01:10:59,265
There's $3 trillion
in commercial mortgages.
1420
01:10:59,299 --> 01:11:01,967
That's $14 trillion,
right?
1421
01:11:02,001 --> 01:11:04,936
You gotta figure
about 5% default rate.
1422
01:11:04,970 --> 01:11:07,771
5% of $14 trillion
1423
01:11:07,805 --> 01:11:12,073
is $700 billion.
1424
01:11:14,776 --> 01:11:17,677
It's better
than a trillion.
1425
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:22,379
The only wayto get this done
1426
01:11:22,413 --> 01:11:24,413
is to justscare them shitless.
1427
01:11:24,448 --> 01:11:28,081
That should be easy.
I'm scared shitless myself.
1428
01:11:39,956 --> 01:11:43,024
Troubled Asset
Relief Program?
1429
01:11:43,058 --> 01:11:44,725
T.A.R.P.
We're calling it.
1430
01:11:44,759 --> 01:11:47,226
This is your draft
of the bill?
1431
01:11:47,260 --> 01:11:50,595
Subject to revision
certainly.
1432
01:11:52,263 --> 01:11:54,263
Well, I've only got
three pages here.
1433
01:11:54,298 --> 01:11:55,765
Am I missing something?
1434
01:11:55,799 --> 01:11:57,033
No.
1435
01:11:59,001 --> 01:12:02,302
You're just looking for a
big blank check in a hurry.
1436
01:12:02,336 --> 01:12:05,804
It's all for the banks.
You don't want a penny
1437
01:12:05,839 --> 01:12:08,273
for the average Joe
that's about to lose his house?
1438
01:12:08,307 --> 01:12:10,375
There's not a scrap of oversight
built into this--
1439
01:12:10,409 --> 01:12:12,877
not for the banks
or for you for that matter.
1440
01:12:12,911 --> 01:12:14,879
You want us
to simply hand over
1441
01:12:14,913 --> 01:12:18,114
$700 billion
and trust you?
1442
01:12:18,149 --> 01:12:20,917
How is it possible
you didn't see this coming?
1443
01:12:20,951 --> 01:12:23,018
If you want to rewind the tape,
we can do that.
1444
01:12:23,053 --> 01:12:26,354
But right now the one thing
we don't have is time.
1445
01:12:26,389 --> 01:12:29,023
We need an announcement tonight
to calm the market.
1446
01:12:29,058 --> 01:12:31,193
We need legislation
next week.
1447
01:12:34,464 --> 01:12:39,301
I spent my entire
academic career
1448
01:12:39,335 --> 01:12:42,504
studying
the Great Depression.
1449
01:12:44,107 --> 01:12:46,308
The Depression
may have started
1450
01:12:46,342 --> 01:12:48,677
because of
a stock market crash,
1451
01:12:48,711 --> 01:12:51,948
but what hit
the general economy
1452
01:12:51,982 --> 01:12:53,883
was a disruption
of credit--
1453
01:12:53,917 --> 01:12:55,952
average citizensunable to borrow money
1454
01:12:55,986 --> 01:12:58,187
to do anything--
to buy a home,
1455
01:12:58,221 --> 01:13:02,457
start a business,
stock their shelves.
1456
01:13:02,492 --> 01:13:06,060
Credit has the ability
to build a modern economy,
1457
01:13:06,095 --> 01:13:08,430
but lack of credit
has the power to destroy it,
1458
01:13:08,464 --> 01:13:10,899
swiftly and absolutely.
1459
01:13:12,735 --> 01:13:15,638
If we do not act
boldly and immediately,
1460
01:13:15,673 --> 01:13:18,775
we will replay
the Depression of the 1930s,
1461
01:13:18,810 --> 01:13:22,247
only this time
it will be
1462
01:13:22,281 --> 01:13:25,084
far far worse.
1463
01:13:26,186 --> 01:13:28,154
We don't
do this now--
1464
01:13:28,189 --> 01:13:31,759
we won't have
an economy on Monday.
1465
01:13:39,805 --> 01:13:41,506
Geithner.
1466
01:13:46,281 --> 01:13:48,183
We took the proposal
down to Congress.
1467
01:13:48,217 --> 01:13:49,417
Are they gonna
go for it?
1468
01:13:49,452 --> 01:13:51,219
They didn't like the fact
that it was short.
1469
01:13:51,254 --> 01:13:53,955
I thought concise was a plus.They thought it was flimsy
1470
01:13:53,990 --> 01:13:56,424
or arrogant
or something.
1471
01:13:56,459 --> 01:13:59,361
I don't know what they think.
They couldn't get past it.
1472
01:13:59,395 --> 01:14:01,797
The market's in a death spiral.
They're gonna sink the bill
1473
01:14:01,831 --> 01:14:03,598
because the proposal
is too fucking short?
1474
01:14:03,633 --> 01:14:07,168
They're working on it.
They're gonna make it longer,
1475
01:14:07,202 --> 01:14:09,370
among other things.
1476
01:14:09,404 --> 01:14:11,739
Look,
1477
01:14:11,774 --> 01:14:13,708
just tell me
you got something.
1478
01:14:16,212 --> 01:14:19,582
No.
No, we're nowhere.
1479
01:14:19,616 --> 01:14:21,183
Who's left
for Morgan Stanley?
1480
01:14:21,217 --> 01:14:25,220
China Investment
Corporation.
1481
01:14:26,389 --> 01:14:28,656
Mae Mitsubishi.
1482
01:14:28,690 --> 01:14:31,293
No, the Japanese will
never do this deal.
1483
01:14:31,327 --> 01:14:32,895
How about Goldman?
1484
01:14:32,929 --> 01:14:35,798
Goldman's looking at Wachovia,
but they're so fucked,
1485
01:14:35,832 --> 01:14:37,833
even John Mack
turned up his nose.
1486
01:14:40,604 --> 01:14:42,605
You gotta get
that bill passed.
1487
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:43,873
I'm pushing.
1488
01:14:43,908 --> 01:14:45,876
Well, push harder,
1489
01:14:45,910 --> 01:14:48,412
please.
1490
01:14:49,748 --> 01:14:53,050
This isn't working, Hank.
1491
01:15:06,798 --> 01:15:08,967
Hank?
1492
01:15:09,001 --> 01:15:11,303
Could you excuse me
a moment?
1493
01:15:32,562 --> 01:15:34,597
Oh my God.
1494
01:15:34,632 --> 01:15:37,368
GAO, GAO,
1495
01:15:37,402 --> 01:15:40,705
I am so sorry about this.
There's nothing we can do.
1496
01:15:40,739 --> 01:15:42,707
It's New York, you know.
We're lucky
1497
01:15:42,741 --> 01:15:45,010
we can still buy a beer
at Yankee Stadium.
1498
01:15:45,044 --> 01:15:47,780
Don't worry about it.
I should quit anyway.
1499
01:15:47,814 --> 01:15:50,217
When you're ready,
we'll be inside.
1500
01:15:53,856 --> 01:15:55,623
Is there any
movement there?
1501
01:15:55,657 --> 01:15:57,860
They made an extremely
low opening offer.
1502
01:15:57,894 --> 01:16:00,196
I pretended
I didn't hear it.
1503
01:16:00,231 --> 01:16:02,232
The marketscan't open Monday
1504
01:16:02,267 --> 01:16:04,669
without a resolutionon Morgan Stanley.
1505
01:16:04,703 --> 01:16:07,171
We really need you
to do a deal.
1506
01:16:07,206 --> 01:16:09,539
- You need to call Jamie.
- I called Jamie.
1507
01:16:09,574 --> 01:16:11,774
He doesn't want us.
There's too much overlap.
1508
01:16:11,808 --> 01:16:13,175
We've spoken to him.
He'll do it.
1509
01:16:13,209 --> 01:16:15,877
For what, a dollar?
Why would I do that?
1510
01:16:15,912 --> 01:16:17,546
I got
China Investment
1511
01:16:17,580 --> 01:16:19,314
and Mitsubishi
kicking my tires.
1512
01:16:19,349 --> 01:16:22,885
I know those guys. They're not
gonna close a deal in time.
1513
01:16:22,919 --> 01:16:26,088
We want you
to call Jamie.
1514
01:16:26,122 --> 01:16:27,923
Let me ask you
a question.
1515
01:16:27,957 --> 01:16:30,926
35,000 jobs just
disappeared in this city
1516
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,128
between A.I.G.,
Lehman and Bear.
1517
01:16:33,162 --> 01:16:34,630
We make a deal
with Jamie--
1518
01:16:34,664 --> 01:16:37,699
he'll fire 20,000
Morgan Stanley employees.
1519
01:16:37,734 --> 01:16:39,868
You think that's good
public policy?
1520
01:16:39,902 --> 01:16:43,338
John, we are looking
at the whole system here.
1521
01:16:43,372 --> 01:16:45,323
The Chinese are leaving.
1522
01:16:45,348 --> 01:16:46,908
GAO found out we're also
talking to Mitsubishi.
1523
01:16:46,909 --> 01:16:48,643
I gotta go.
1524
01:16:48,678 --> 01:16:52,214
All right, get me Kuroyanagi
and a Japanese translator.
1525
01:16:52,248 --> 01:16:54,249
We're closing with
Mitsubishi tonight.
1526
01:16:54,284 --> 01:16:56,885
Tim Geithner's
calling again.
1527
01:16:56,919 --> 01:16:58,422
Cover your ears.
1528
01:16:58,447 --> 01:17:00,147
You tell Tim Geithner
to fucking blow me.
1529
01:17:00,156 --> 01:17:02,323
I'm trying to save
my company.
1530
01:17:04,826 --> 01:17:07,729
Put him on the schedule,
but make sure it's after lunch,
1531
01:17:07,763 --> 01:17:10,832
because that way I can
fit Maddle in beforehand.
1532
01:17:10,867 --> 01:17:13,836
Morgan just made a deal
with Mitsubishi.
1533
01:17:13,871 --> 01:17:15,839
So we're
the only bank
1534
01:17:15,873 --> 01:17:18,175
with our dick
still in the wind.
1535
01:17:18,209 --> 01:17:21,412
I'm calling
Buffett again.
1536
01:17:26,085 --> 01:17:28,453
Grandpa, they keep calling.
What if it's important?
1537
01:17:28,488 --> 01:17:30,923
They always think
it's important.
1538
01:17:33,227 --> 01:17:36,763
All right,
I'll make it fast.
1539
01:17:38,166 --> 01:17:40,167
Warren, thanks for calling back.
How are you?
1540
01:17:40,202 --> 01:17:42,202
Just fine, Lloyd.
1541
01:17:42,237 --> 01:17:43,902
What can I do
for you today?
1542
01:17:43,936 --> 01:17:46,602
I'd like to talk to you about
taking a stake in Goldman Sachs.
1543
01:17:46,636 --> 01:17:49,269
What do you have in mind?Sounds expensive.
1544
01:17:49,304 --> 01:17:51,471
Maybe not.
1545
01:17:53,239 --> 01:17:55,773
You'd better havegood news,
1546
01:17:55,808 --> 01:17:58,073
because I might be deadbefore we finish
1547
01:17:58,108 --> 01:18:00,274
haggling over TARP.
1548
01:18:00,309 --> 01:18:03,244
Buffett's throwing
$5 billion into Goldman.
1549
01:18:06,281 --> 01:18:08,816
We're off the ledge.
1550
01:18:08,850 --> 01:18:10,885
For a moment.
1551
01:18:10,919 --> 01:18:13,520
The October surprise
arrived a little early
1552
01:18:13,555 --> 01:18:16,290
with a game-changing jolt
to the White House race.
1553
01:18:16,325 --> 01:18:18,259
Call it a master stroke
1554
01:18:18,293 --> 01:18:20,294
or a desperate
Hail-Mary pass--
1555
01:18:20,329 --> 01:18:23,565
McCain announced he would
suspend his campaign
1556
01:18:23,599 --> 01:18:26,702
and asked for this Friday's
debate to be postponed
1557
01:18:26,736 --> 01:18:29,972
So he can return to Washington
to focus on the economic crisis.
1558
01:18:30,007 --> 01:18:33,142
Now is our chance
to come together,
1559
01:18:33,177 --> 01:18:35,879
to prove that Washington
is once again
1560
01:18:35,913 --> 01:18:39,082
capable of leading
this country.
1561
01:18:39,116 --> 01:18:41,984
Thank God he came back.
1562
01:18:42,019 --> 01:18:46,188
Like Daniel Day Lewis
in "Last of the Mohicans,"
1563
01:18:46,222 --> 01:18:48,857
he will find us!
1564
01:18:50,493 --> 01:18:52,727
- They're blowing it up.
- What happened?
1565
01:18:52,761 --> 01:18:54,462
McCain wanted to swoop in
and save the day,
1566
01:18:54,496 --> 01:18:56,097
but doesn't have any idea
how to do it.
1567
01:18:56,131 --> 01:18:58,032
It's 100-page
piece of legislation
1568
01:18:58,066 --> 01:19:00,100
we've been carefully
negotiating for days.
1569
01:19:00,135 --> 01:19:02,303
What, did he think they were
gonna sit around and spitball?
1570
01:19:02,337 --> 01:19:04,271
Yeah, when McCain
got here
1571
01:19:04,306 --> 01:19:07,574
and found out that the deal
was basically done, he went apeshit.
1572
01:19:07,609 --> 01:19:09,476
The Republicans fell in
behind their guy.
1573
01:19:09,511 --> 01:19:11,211
They want to start
all over again.
1574
01:19:11,246 --> 01:19:13,480
Democrats flipped out.
Republicans dug in.
1575
01:19:13,515 --> 01:19:15,916
Clusterfuck.
1576
01:19:15,950 --> 01:19:19,253
- Where's Hank?
- Still talking to McCain.
1577
01:19:19,287 --> 01:19:21,688
If you or anyone else
does anything
1578
01:19:21,723 --> 01:19:25,225
that causes a depression,
it is not gonna be on me.
1579
01:19:25,260 --> 01:19:27,862
I have a big mouth, Senator--
1580
01:19:27,887 --> 01:19:29,062
- a very big mouth.
- Hold on...
1581
01:19:29,063 --> 01:19:31,498
He's not threatening
1582
01:19:31,532 --> 01:19:33,966
the Republican
Presidential Nominee, is he?
1583
01:19:34,001 --> 01:19:36,468
- Something's got to be done.
- No no. Excuse me, please.
1584
01:19:36,503 --> 01:19:38,470
Where are the Democrats?
1585
01:19:38,505 --> 01:19:40,306
They're right down
this way.
1586
01:19:40,340 --> 01:19:41,874
- Is Nancy there?
- Yes. Yes, she is.
1587
01:19:41,908 --> 01:19:43,209
Thank you.
1588
01:19:50,917 --> 01:19:52,851
Nancy...
1589
01:19:56,521 --> 01:19:58,789
Gee, Hank.
1590
01:19:58,824 --> 01:20:00,724
I didn't know
you were Catholic.
1591
01:20:02,359 --> 01:20:04,461
I beg of you, don't blow this up.
It was a bad meeting,
1592
01:20:04,495 --> 01:20:06,529
but we need to get
together on this.
1593
01:20:06,564 --> 01:20:08,532
We're not the ones
trying to blow it up.
1594
01:20:08,566 --> 01:20:11,036
I just ask you
to stay with us.
1595
01:20:13,139 --> 01:20:16,308
Please.
1596
01:20:16,342 --> 01:20:18,143
The House began debating
the rescue bill
1597
01:20:18,177 --> 01:20:19,644
at 9:27 this morning.
1598
01:20:19,679 --> 01:20:22,447
At about 1:28 pmCongress did finally act.
1599
01:20:22,481 --> 01:20:24,783
- This is a squeaker of a vote.
- We are down to it right now.
1600
01:20:24,817 --> 01:20:27,052
It looks like the Democratsdelivered their caucus
1601
01:20:27,086 --> 01:20:29,254
and the Republicansso far have not.
1602
01:20:29,289 --> 01:20:31,490
What do you think they could doto change the bill
1603
01:20:31,524 --> 01:20:33,392
to get a few Republican votesover to the other side?
1604
01:20:33,426 --> 01:20:35,193
If they hangWall Street CEOs,
1605
01:20:35,228 --> 01:20:36,628
I think that would geta few more votes.
1606
01:20:36,663 --> 01:20:38,430
You know, I'm not--I'm not sure
1607
01:20:38,464 --> 01:20:40,332
what they could doexactly.
1608
01:20:40,366 --> 01:20:43,735
It is possible that the leadershipof the Congress would conclude
1609
01:20:43,770 --> 01:20:46,738
that there's nothing that canget a majority of support
1610
01:20:46,773 --> 01:20:49,507
and see what Hank Paulson can doand the administration can do--
1611
01:20:51,443 --> 01:20:53,477
Leaders are negotiatingright now
1612
01:20:53,512 --> 01:20:55,713
who'll risk their seats.And that's what I'm hearing.
1613
01:20:55,747 --> 01:20:58,279
Pelosi wouldn't have brought
the bill to the floor if she
1614
01:20:58,304 --> 01:20:59,481
didn't think it would pass.
1615
01:20:59,482 --> 01:21:01,017
I don't know the answerto that, Charlie. I can't answer.
1616
01:21:01,087 --> 01:21:03,055
I'm just reading an emailthat's coming to me.
1617
01:21:03,089 --> 01:21:04,492
I think the bottom line
1618
01:21:04,493 --> 01:21:05,600
is they gotta go backto the drawing board.
1619
01:21:05,625 --> 01:21:07,292
Do they have the timethough to do that?
1620
01:21:07,326 --> 01:21:09,025
Look at the Dow JonesIndustrial Average.
1621
01:21:09,059 --> 01:21:10,959
Well, you know,you're gonna get a--
1622
01:21:10,994 --> 01:21:12,104
At this point we just
1623
01:21:12,129 --> 01:21:13,529
gotta hold on to the sidesof the kayak
1624
01:21:13,530 --> 01:21:14,963
and ride through thisbecause--
1625
01:21:14,996 --> 01:21:16,930
They didn't pass it.
1626
01:21:16,964 --> 01:21:18,964
- They did not pass it.
- It just wasn't enough.
1627
01:21:18,999 --> 01:21:23,167
They're gonna end up beingnine votes short, Bill.
1628
01:21:23,202 --> 01:21:24,868
Say that again, Steve.
1629
01:21:24,903 --> 01:21:26,803
I think they're gonna end upbeing nine votes--
1630
01:21:26,837 --> 01:21:29,071
if they get all six--five of the remaining votes,
1631
01:21:29,105 --> 01:21:32,973
they'll be 10 votes short now--if they get all five remaining.
1632
01:21:33,008 --> 01:21:34,708
The writing ison the wall there.
1633
01:21:34,742 --> 01:21:36,876
And we're heredown on the floor.
1634
01:21:36,910 --> 01:21:39,244
Traders have been standing around.We're all here in knots.
1635
01:21:43,684 --> 01:21:47,156
The networks are waiting for you
in the press room.
1636
01:21:47,190 --> 01:21:50,192
I can't even--
1637
01:22:02,107 --> 01:22:04,108
We have to
go back again.
1638
01:22:04,142 --> 01:22:06,611
They don't get
to say no on this.
1639
01:22:07,512 --> 01:22:09,146
Okay.
1640
01:22:09,181 --> 01:22:10,314
The White House
wants a meeting.
1641
01:22:10,349 --> 01:22:12,316
Good. We'll come up
with a new strategy.
1642
01:22:12,351 --> 01:22:14,385
The White House has to
push harder on the Hill.
1643
01:22:14,420 --> 01:22:17,255
Meanwhile we need to keep working
on what we do with the money.
1644
01:22:17,289 --> 01:22:18,756
Let's act like
this is gonna work.
1645
01:22:18,791 --> 01:22:20,591
In that case, let's talk
about cash injections.
1646
01:22:20,625 --> 01:22:21,837
Here we go again.
1647
01:22:21,862 --> 01:22:23,193
We can't nationalize
the banks.
1648
01:22:23,194 --> 01:22:24,266
It's not nationali--
1649
01:22:24,291 --> 01:22:25,791
That's how Japan got itself
a decade-long recession.
1650
01:22:25,862 --> 01:22:28,330
Is that where
we want to go?
1651
01:22:28,364 --> 01:22:30,532
What else do we have?
1652
01:22:30,566 --> 01:22:32,100
Cash-for-trash.
1653
01:22:32,125 --> 01:22:34,025
Buying toxic assets
is still our go-to move.
1654
01:22:34,803 --> 01:22:38,239
All right.
Find a way to simplify it.
1655
01:22:38,273 --> 01:22:41,142
Dan, work something up.
1656
01:22:41,176 --> 01:22:44,279
For discussion purposes,
let's see what it would look like.
1657
01:22:55,192 --> 01:22:57,961
For those who supported the
$700 billion Wall Street bailout,
1658
01:22:57,995 --> 01:23:00,196
it was a surprising
and stunning failure
1659
01:23:00,231 --> 01:23:02,532
when the House of Representatives
voted to reject it.
1660
01:23:02,566 --> 01:23:05,001
It's a stinging defeatfor President Bush
1661
01:23:05,035 --> 01:23:07,738
delivered at the handsof his fellow Republicans.
1662
01:23:07,772 --> 01:23:11,207
We put forth a plan
that was big
1663
01:23:11,242 --> 01:23:12,976
because we've got
a big problem.
1664
01:23:13,010 --> 01:23:16,913
The reality is that we're
in an urgent situation.
1665
01:23:16,948 --> 01:23:20,183
and the consequences
will grow worse each day
1666
01:23:20,218 --> 01:23:21,651
if we do not act.
1667
01:23:21,686 --> 01:23:23,153
I know.
I keep telling--
1668
01:23:23,187 --> 01:23:24,654
draft of
the new bill.
1669
01:23:24,689 --> 01:23:26,289
Are they having
any luck with it?
1670
01:23:26,324 --> 01:23:28,859
The White House thinks they
got a better shot of pushing it
1671
01:23:28,894 --> 01:23:31,462
through the Senate side first.
Hopefully they're right.
1672
01:23:31,497 --> 01:23:33,431
They asked us to back off
and let them handle it.
1673
01:23:33,465 --> 01:23:36,368
So I'm-- I'm--
I'm trying to back off.
1674
01:23:41,407 --> 01:23:44,242
Buying toxic assets
isn't gonna work.
1675
01:23:44,277 --> 01:23:45,843
Why not?
1676
01:23:45,878 --> 01:23:47,411
It's too slow.
1677
01:23:47,445 --> 01:23:48,879
I think I've been
saying that.
1678
01:23:48,913 --> 01:23:50,880
Well, we knew it was complicated,
but how slow--?
1679
01:23:50,914 --> 01:23:52,381
Two months,
maybe more.
1680
01:23:52,416 --> 01:23:53,799
Oh.
1681
01:23:53,824 --> 01:23:55,124
How is it possible
we didn't know how--?
1682
01:23:55,185 --> 01:23:59,421
I didn't ask how long
it would take, okay?
1683
01:23:59,455 --> 01:24:01,789
Can we move on?
1684
01:24:01,824 --> 01:24:05,593
So maybe we can talk about
capital injections.
1685
01:24:05,627 --> 01:24:07,495
Dan, we really can't.
1686
01:24:07,529 --> 01:24:09,664
I think
we're gonna have to.
1687
01:24:09,698 --> 01:24:12,200
Even if neel could
expedite the process,
1688
01:24:12,234 --> 01:24:15,770
which seems unlikely,
1689
01:24:15,804 --> 01:24:17,772
the systemis crumbling.
1690
01:24:17,806 --> 01:24:20,508
The banks needmoney now.
1691
01:24:20,542 --> 01:24:24,045
If cash injections are the most
efficient way to stabilize them,
1692
01:24:24,079 --> 01:24:27,214
then we can't back off
1693
01:24:27,248 --> 01:24:29,216
because we're uncomfortable
being the men
1694
01:24:29,250 --> 01:24:31,552
who nationalized
a few American banks.
1695
01:24:31,586 --> 01:24:33,220
It's faster,
that's for sure.
1696
01:24:33,254 --> 01:24:35,322
It will push us back
off the precipice, yes,
1697
01:24:35,356 --> 01:24:38,925
unfreeze the system.
1698
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,695
We give them some money
1699
01:24:41,729 --> 01:24:45,031
and they lend it out.
1700
01:24:48,903 --> 01:24:50,370
The motion is adopted.
1701
01:24:50,404 --> 01:24:52,739
After rejecting the Bush
Administration's T.A.R.P. Plan
1702
01:24:52,773 --> 01:24:55,376
only four days ago,
the House passed it today.
1703
01:24:55,410 --> 01:24:57,246
The big question now--
1704
01:24:57,271 --> 01:24:59,071
whether investors will take
comfort in the news.
1705
01:24:59,114 --> 01:25:01,081
Current indicators showthe stock market
1706
01:25:01,116 --> 01:25:04,151
is continuingits freefall.
1707
01:25:22,505 --> 01:25:23,838
Hello.
1708
01:25:23,872 --> 01:25:26,174
Warren, it's Hank.
1709
01:25:26,208 --> 01:25:29,277
I-- I-- I'm sorry.
It's late.
1710
01:25:29,311 --> 01:25:31,612
Am I waking you?
1711
01:25:31,647 --> 01:25:34,082
No, not at all.
1712
01:25:34,116 --> 01:25:36,250
Can I pick your brain
for a minute?
1713
01:25:36,285 --> 01:25:39,053
Sure.What's the problem?
1714
01:25:39,087 --> 01:25:42,724
How do you get
a healthy bank
1715
01:25:42,758 --> 01:25:45,626
to accept
a capital injection?
1716
01:26:39,648 --> 01:26:42,116
I had to drag my ass all the
way here from California.
1717
01:26:42,151 --> 01:26:44,052
They wouldn't even
tell my why.
1718
01:26:44,086 --> 01:26:45,954
Nobody knows
what this is about?
1719
01:26:45,988 --> 01:26:48,089
Nope.
1720
01:26:53,262 --> 01:26:54,929
Talk to Jamie?
1721
01:26:54,964 --> 01:26:57,199
Yep. He'll be fine.
1722
01:26:57,233 --> 01:26:59,068
Did you tell him
what was coming?
1723
01:26:59,102 --> 01:27:01,203
Uh, did I tell him we're about
to make him swallow
1724
01:27:01,238 --> 01:27:04,574
a capital injection
he doesn't need? No.
1725
01:27:04,608 --> 01:27:07,277
I-- I told him
we need his help
1726
01:27:07,311 --> 01:27:10,748
and I asked him very politely
not to fuck with us today.
1727
01:27:12,117 --> 01:27:13,451
He got it.
1728
01:27:14,753 --> 01:27:16,821
She's here.
1729
01:27:21,795 --> 01:27:23,763
Gentlemen.
1730
01:27:23,797 --> 01:27:25,531
We think this is
gonna work?
1731
01:27:25,566 --> 01:27:27,934
Oh yeah.
They're gonna love it.
1732
01:27:50,060 --> 01:27:51,994
We are of the view
1733
01:27:52,029 --> 01:27:53,996
that the United States
needs
1734
01:27:54,031 --> 01:27:56,699
to take strong,
decisive action
1735
01:27:56,733 --> 01:27:59,868
to arrest the stress
1736
01:27:59,902 --> 01:28:03,404
in our financial system.
1737
01:28:03,438 --> 01:28:06,473
Through our new
T.A.R.P. Authority,
1738
01:28:06,507 --> 01:28:09,442
Treasury will purchase
1739
01:28:09,476 --> 01:28:11,711
preferred stock
1740
01:28:11,745 --> 01:28:14,679
in each of the banks
represented in this room.
1741
01:28:17,015 --> 01:28:19,449
That stock will yield 5%the first five years,
1742
01:28:19,484 --> 01:28:22,418
9% after that.
1743
01:28:22,452 --> 01:28:25,119
We give you money;
You lend it out.
1744
01:28:25,154 --> 01:28:28,555
It will unfreeze credit,
stabilize the banks,
1745
01:28:28,590 --> 01:28:30,457
restore confidence.
1746
01:28:30,492 --> 01:28:32,559
Everyone will bebetter off
1747
01:28:32,593 --> 01:28:34,593
with more capital
in the system.
1748
01:28:34,628 --> 01:28:36,661
And that is why
1749
01:28:36,696 --> 01:28:40,531
all nine of you
1750
01:28:40,566 --> 01:28:43,434
will participate
in the program.
1751
01:28:46,905 --> 01:28:48,673
Some of us don't need
any capital.
1752
01:28:48,707 --> 01:28:51,176
You all need capital.
1753
01:28:51,210 --> 01:28:53,744
You have no idea what the
market's gonna look like in a year.
1754
01:28:53,779 --> 01:28:55,846
Neither do you.
1755
01:28:55,881 --> 01:28:57,848
I'm not one of you
New York guys
1756
01:28:57,882 --> 01:28:59,817
with your
fancy products.
1757
01:28:59,851 --> 01:29:02,720
Well, why am I in this room
talking about bailing you out?
1758
01:29:02,754 --> 01:29:06,323
The stronger banks will serve
as cover for the weaker banks.
1759
01:29:06,357 --> 01:29:08,959
If just some of you take it,
the money is a signal
1760
01:29:08,993 --> 01:29:12,062
that a bank is too weak to survive.
The market will devour it.
1761
01:29:12,096 --> 01:29:14,798
How much are we
talking about?
1762
01:29:14,832 --> 01:29:17,768
$125 billion.
1763
01:29:19,904 --> 01:29:21,872
Bank of America--$15 billion.
1764
01:29:21,906 --> 01:29:24,207
Bank of New York Mellon--$3 billion.
1765
01:29:24,242 --> 01:29:27,744
Citigroup--$25 billion.
1766
01:29:27,778 --> 01:29:31,081
Goldman Sachs--$10 billion.
1767
01:29:31,115 --> 01:29:34,417
J.P. Morgan--$25 billion.
1768
01:29:34,452 --> 01:29:36,686
Merrill Lynch--$10 billion.
1769
01:29:36,721 --> 01:29:39,222
Morgan Stanley--$10 billion.
1770
01:29:39,256 --> 01:29:42,392
State Street--$2 billion.
1771
01:29:42,426 --> 01:29:44,761
Wells Fargo--$25 billion.
1772
01:29:50,634 --> 01:29:54,270
What happened
to buying toxic assets?
1773
01:29:54,304 --> 01:29:55,872
Wasn't that the idea?
1774
01:29:55,906 --> 01:29:57,406
It's too slow.
1775
01:29:57,441 --> 01:29:59,508
You'll be dead
before we sort it out.
1776
01:29:59,543 --> 01:30:02,945
So we're just handing
the reins over to you?
1777
01:30:02,979 --> 01:30:04,613
The deal's actually
pretty good.
1778
01:30:04,647 --> 01:30:07,282
You turn your nose up at this now,
and we have to rescue you later--
1779
01:30:07,317 --> 01:30:09,084
the terms won't be
nearly as attractive.
1780
01:30:09,118 --> 01:30:11,753
It's cheap capital.
It's not the worst idea in the world.
1781
01:30:11,788 --> 01:30:13,722
Well, it is for those of us
who already have capital.
1782
01:30:13,756 --> 01:30:15,857
We will be nonvoting
shareholders.
1783
01:30:15,892 --> 01:30:18,393
This will be
a temporary measure.
1784
01:30:20,830 --> 01:30:22,964
What if we decline
to be involved?
1785
01:30:22,998 --> 01:30:26,534
The Chairman of the FDIC
is sitting right there.
1786
01:30:26,569 --> 01:30:28,236
Tomorrow you'llfind out
1787
01:30:28,270 --> 01:30:30,638
that you're not as well-capitalizedas you think you are.
1788
01:30:30,673 --> 01:30:32,640
What kind of protections
can you offer on changes
1789
01:30:32,675 --> 01:30:34,275
for compensation policy?
1790
01:30:34,309 --> 01:30:37,145
I mean, if the government
is going to become a part-owner,
1791
01:30:37,179 --> 01:30:39,147
does that mean
that the government
1792
01:30:39,181 --> 01:30:41,716
is going to dictate
compensation?
1793
01:30:41,750 --> 01:30:43,951
Are you asking me about your
bonus right now, John?
1794
01:30:43,986 --> 01:30:46,320
I'm running
a company.
1795
01:30:46,355 --> 01:30:48,322
If the Fed tells me
I can't offer
1796
01:30:48,357 --> 01:30:50,625
competitive pay
for talent,
1797
01:30:50,659 --> 01:30:53,827
you're gonna launch the biggest brain
drain this country's ever seen.
1798
01:30:53,862 --> 01:30:55,695
Is that the way you want
to run the banks?
1799
01:30:55,730 --> 01:30:57,730
Until the money is repaid
to the Treasury,
1800
01:30:57,765 --> 01:31:01,200
there will be some limitations on tax
deductions and golden parachutes.
1801
01:31:01,234 --> 01:31:03,268
- Well, there you go.
- I don't really understand
1802
01:31:03,302 --> 01:31:05,903
why there needs to be
so much tension about this.
1803
01:31:05,937 --> 01:31:07,871
The country is facing
1804
01:31:07,906 --> 01:31:10,407
the worst economy
since the Great Depression.
1805
01:31:10,441 --> 01:31:12,909
If the financial system
collapses,
1806
01:31:12,943 --> 01:31:15,845
it will take
every one of you down.
1807
01:31:24,052 --> 01:31:26,253
Give me the papers.
1808
01:31:33,626 --> 01:31:35,260
- You can't just sign it.
- Oh no?
1809
01:31:35,294 --> 01:31:38,929
- Not without your board.
- My board's on 24-hour notice.
1810
01:31:38,963 --> 01:31:41,197
I think they'll
go along with it.
1811
01:31:41,232 --> 01:31:45,834
And if they don't,
they'll fire me.
1812
01:31:51,276 --> 01:31:54,044
Anyone else?
1813
01:31:59,119 --> 01:32:01,387
Are they gonna do it?
1814
01:32:02,656 --> 01:32:04,290
They're calling
their boards.
1815
01:32:04,325 --> 01:32:06,793
- That's a good sign.
- If they do go along with this,
1816
01:32:06,828 --> 01:32:09,496
we should announce
something alongside the injections--
1817
01:32:09,531 --> 01:32:12,567
maybe a program
to buy up mortgages.
1818
01:32:12,601 --> 01:32:14,302
I'm not rushing out
some half-assed plan
1819
01:32:14,337 --> 01:32:16,105
just to make it look like
we're doing something.
1820
01:32:16,139 --> 01:32:18,541
Maybe we just beef up
the restrictions
1821
01:32:18,576 --> 01:32:21,312
on how they
spend the money--
1822
01:32:21,346 --> 01:32:23,148
something to take
the stink off.
1823
01:32:23,182 --> 01:32:25,851
Put more restrictions on it--
they won't take it.
1824
01:32:30,457 --> 01:32:32,793
One thing too many
for today.
1825
01:32:34,964 --> 01:32:36,898
They almost bring down
1826
01:32:36,933 --> 01:32:38,734
the U.S. economy
as we know it,
1827
01:32:38,768 --> 01:32:41,236
but we can't put restrictions
on how they spend
1828
01:32:41,270 --> 01:32:44,473
the $125 billion
we're giving them,
1829
01:32:44,507 --> 01:32:48,710
because they might not
take it.
1830
01:33:20,242 --> 01:33:22,476
What's this?
1831
01:33:22,510 --> 01:33:26,313
That is, um...
1832
01:33:26,347 --> 01:33:28,849
A poison dart frog.
1833
01:33:28,883 --> 01:33:32,219
Wendy took it
in Guyana.
1834
01:33:44,632 --> 01:33:47,234
Is this yours?
1835
01:33:51,973 --> 01:33:54,307
Al Capone's.
1836
01:33:56,410 --> 01:33:57,911
Eight out of the nine
are in.
1837
01:33:57,945 --> 01:33:59,946
B of A is still waiting
on its board, but--
1838
01:33:59,981 --> 01:34:02,482
it's gonna go through.
1839
01:34:02,517 --> 01:34:05,118
I'll call the Speaker'soffice.
1840
01:34:05,152 --> 01:34:08,154
And we're gonna get you
on the phone with the President.
1841
01:34:08,189 --> 01:34:10,991
Okay.
1842
01:34:13,928 --> 01:34:16,729
Dow is up 900 points
1843
01:34:16,764 --> 01:34:19,132
just because
we were meeting.
1844
01:34:21,435 --> 01:34:25,439
Well, that's good.
1845
01:34:25,473 --> 01:34:28,008
That's good.
1846
01:34:28,042 --> 01:34:30,743
It was the right thing.
1847
01:34:30,777 --> 01:34:33,680
Absolutely.
1848
01:34:33,714 --> 01:34:35,648
I was prepared
for more blowback.
1849
01:34:35,683 --> 01:34:38,751
They didn't have
a choice.
1850
01:34:38,786 --> 01:34:41,154
They knew that.
1851
01:34:42,623 --> 01:34:47,360
Well, I certainly hope
that they--
1852
01:34:47,395 --> 01:34:48,662
What?
1853
01:34:50,531 --> 01:34:54,734
I hope they use the money
the way we're asking them to.
1854
01:34:54,769 --> 01:34:59,706
They will lend it out,
won't they?
1855
01:35:00,941 --> 01:35:03,643
Of course they will.
1856
01:35:15,122 --> 01:35:17,623
Of course they will.
1857
01:36:13,236 --> 01:36:17,236
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