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'In the next 6O seconds,
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'more than £2,000 will have been
taken from us by scammers.
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'By the end of today, we'll have
lost more than £3 million.'
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Scams and fraud are not just
the most commonly reported crimes
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but also they're an industry
worth billions of pounds.
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Now, in the UK we've become
such popular targets
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that we've become known
as the fraud capital of the world.
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'But together,
you and I can change all that.
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'I'm Alexis Conran.
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'Come with me and my team
as we dive into the world of scams.'
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We've turned this old furniture
factory into our little mini HQ.
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'From here, we'll investigate
the latest threats from the inside
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'and show you how they work.'
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Have a quick look underneath there.
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That's your password?
That's my password!
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'Then we'll teach you
how to spot those red flags.'
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Never exclusively rely
on your transaction
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being over messaging apps,
texts or emails.
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'I'm also going to be on the road
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'to meet ordinary people
who've been hit by scams, small...'
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They messaged me saying,
"We need another £700."
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'..and large.'
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How much did you send?
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£120,000.
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Scams are ever evolving,
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but there are always easy ways
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to make sure your money stays safe
and you don't get caught out.
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'This time,
we look at the banking app
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'that was infiltrated
by criminals...'
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The caller knew exactly everything.
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He knew my first name,
my second name, my surname.
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'..the delivery scam
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'where your house
is put under surveillance...'
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He's loitering outside,
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has been, apparently, for a while,
waiting untill emerge.
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'..and the woman tricked
out of the entire sale
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'of her new Spanish home.'
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The email address was
our solicitors' email address
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but we weren't actually
speaking to the solicitors,
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we were speaking to somebody else.
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Welcome to our mini HQ
for the series.
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As you can see,
everyone is working hard,
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looking for those new scams,
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and, in fact, most of the stories
you're going to see in this series
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have come from you.
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You've been getting in touch
with us in droves
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on our email address
and our WhatsApp number,
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and at the end of the show,
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we will let you know
how you can get in touch with us
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to share your stories.
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'And from your emails so far,
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'we're seeing how
scams are getting more creative.'
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And imagine this,
imagine if you get caught in a scam
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that is so convincing
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that even your own bank
don't believe it's a scam.
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'It sounds pretty terrifying,
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'but with 93% of people in Britain
using online banking,
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'it is easy to see how scammers
are trying to take advantage,
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'as 24-year-old Daria
was to find out.'
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'Daria from Glasgow
was in her final year
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'studying games design
at university.
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'Very much a grafter, she had
worked hard throughout her studies,
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'ready for when she graduated.'
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I started working when
I was around 16 in my first job,
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I did private maths lessons
for kids when I was in high school,
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I work in McDonald's,
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I work in a call centre and stuff
like that, I was a hostess.
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Ancl I always had some savings
cos it's just felt better.
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'Daria had a savings account
with an online bank
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'which allowed her to add funds
whether she was in the UK
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'or from her native homeland
of Poland.'
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Throughout the three years of uni,
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I managed to save
just a little bit over £9,000.
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'But all that was to change,
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'as the money that Daria
had worked so hard for
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'was about to come under attack.'
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I received a phone call from someone
claiming that they are from my bank.
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Ancl they told me that there had been
suspicious activity on my account
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and they froze my account
so I cannot use it any more.
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I was a little bit suspicious
at the beginning,
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but the caller knew
exactly everything -
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he knew my first name,
my second name, my surname.
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'This is the beginning
of a very clever scam.
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'They research their target
to convince them they're official.'
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He was just so... Everything was so
convincing that I just trusted him.
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He said that now I will receive
a code to unblock my account again.
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'Daria was expecting to receive
a code on her phone,
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'and this code would enable her
to unlock her account
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'so she could use it again.
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'But the code never arrived.
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'Unbeknownst to her,
the failure to receive the message
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'was the beginning
of an incredibly clever scam.'
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So he told me
to update my phone number.
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I did that and I received a message,
and I just put it in the app.
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'Daria entered the code she was sent
into her banking app on her phone.
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'Convinced it was now unlocked
and free to use,
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'Daria thought nothing more
of the call.
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'But within a few hours,
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'she received
a shocking notification.'
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I was actually in my kitchen,
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cooking the dinner
for me and my partner,
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and I got a notification on my phone
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that someone just spent £9,330
in Self ridges in London.
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'Daria had been duped.
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'The code she had been sent
wasn't to unlock her account at all,
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'it was actually used by the scammer
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'to set up her debit card
on THEIR phone,
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'and Daria had unwittingly
given them access.'
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I went to the app, I logged in,
my account was clean,
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there was practically no money left.
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'The scam worked
by connecting Daria's debit card
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'to a different mobile phone,
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'meaning it could be used
for payments by a complete stranger.
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'And worst yet,
Daria had authorised it for them
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'by using the code in the text.
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'In one 30-minute phone call,
Daria had lost nearly £10,000.'
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It was all my hard work, like,
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I spent so many hours,
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I scrubbed the floor
in the restaurant for that,
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I deal with the customers, I...
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It was just awful
that someone just took it...
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...and just decided to tap the card
and spend all of that.
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I think the worst part
of it was, like,
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how I was blaming myself for that.
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Like, that shame at the beginning
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was the worst feeling that
I had ever in my life experienced.
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I called my parents
and it was just, like,
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their disappointment a bit.
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I felt really ashamed.
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'Clearly, in this incident,
what helped the scammers
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'was knowing enough information
on Daria herself
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'prior to the call being made.
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'And here lies the problem.'
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Most scams rely on information.
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And the more personalised
that information is,
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the better it is for the scammers.
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But how DO they get their hands
on your data?
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'Well, we wanted to find out,
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'not only how criminals
get their hands on it,
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'but also what is freely
being put out there by ourselves
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'that could be used against us?
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'So we have a perfectly innocuous
city cafe as our setting
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'and a van full of some
of the smartest security experts
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'in their field,
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'led by ethical hacker Ken Munro.'
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Now all I need
are some unsuspecting volunteers.
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‘I am pretending to be
Mystic Con ran,
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'the world-famous psychic,
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'and I am going to show off
my special powers
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'of knowing everything about
complete strangers.'
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Right, and then I just need
your signature.
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'Before taking part
in a filmed psychic reading,
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'our researcher
has asked these people
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'for three basic pieces
of information
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'which will be the premise
of our experiment.
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'The sort of details
we hand out every day.'
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Thanks for helping.
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What's your name?
Andrew.
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Where do you live?
Manchester.
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'Unbeknown to them, Ken and his team
are listening in right behind us,
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'feeding me information
into my secret earpiece.
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'Everything they discover
about these people
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'will be from three nuggets
of information they gave us,
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'nothing more.
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'But, of course,
they don't know that.'
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IN EARPIECE: He is
a telecommunications engineer.
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I've noticed the phones, is that...?
Is that what you do?
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Do you work as a telecoms engineer,
perhaps?
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Yeah.
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'Freaky. right?
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'Other information, including
passwords and even bank details
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'could be readily available
on the dark web
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'following any data breaches
from sites they may use.'
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She is a student at
the University of Huddersfield.
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Are you in Huddersfield University?
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Are you in Huddersfield University?
How did you know?
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'It's time to show off
my special powers.'
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Now, where did you go to school?
Was it...
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IN EARPIECE: Went to
Pine Manor College.
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...Pine Manor College?
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Yeah.
Yeah?
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Is this freaking you out a bit?
Yes!
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OK. Cos...
And... Yeah?
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...that's not even on my Linkedln.
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Did you ever used to work for a...
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IN EARPIECE: Worked for
a company called MJ Quinn.
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...a company called Mj Quinn
or something?
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HE LAUGHS
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Eh?
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Are you from Oran in Algeria?
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Studied at the
Universite d'Oran Es Senia.
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I'm not really from Oran,
but close to it.
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But you went to
the university there?
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Oran. Es Senia University?
Oh, my God!
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SHE GASPS
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Did you run the marathon?
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Mm. Yeah.
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In Auckland?
Yeah, that's right.
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IN EARPIECE:
He said thanks to a paramedic
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for bringing him
back to life with a banana.
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You needed a little bit of help
from a paramedic and a banana?
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So you just stalked my Instagram,
that's how you found out!
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THEY LAUGH
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'Now, a lot of what Ken and his team
have found may be fairly frivolous,
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'but remember, most scams involve
creating a profile around you.
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'And everything they've discovered
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'has come from these
basic contact details.
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'But it's time to step it up a bit.'
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IN EARPIECE: OK, we have a password.
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'The team have found a password
readily available online
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'following a data breach with
a popular social media platform.'
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I do have one thing
that I want to show you,
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and I'm not going to say this
out loud. You'll see why.
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OK. But I want you
to just have a quick look.
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just have a quick look
underneath there.
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SHE LAUGHS
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How the... How did you get that?
That's...
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Don't show anyone that.
No. That's your password?
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That's my password!
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That's been quite easy to find out.
Yeah.
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Where's your guy?
I'll tell you what's going on.
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So, the moment you gave your name
and email address,
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those three guys behind
that window on laptops...
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Oh, no way. You buggers!
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They look like they're from
Australia or something. You buggers!
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Yeah, you guys,
I knew you were there.
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Sorry that I surprised you.
No problem at all!
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But you were great.
I was gonna ask you about my future!
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THEY LAUGH
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The information that you guys
were finding off the internet,
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is that information
that's available to anybody?
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Yep. So, pretty much
everything you saw there
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is completely free access.
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There are a few tools
you pay a few pounds for,
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but everything is easily accessible.
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What does that tell you -
because this is your business -
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about the amount of information
that you can find out
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about any random person
we can pick in the street here?
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What it tells me is people aren't
thinking about their own privacy.
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Privacy is everything,
it's what leads to fraud.
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If your privacy's invaded,
they've got access, potentially,
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to your bank accounts.
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So think of privacy
in terms of money. OK.
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'Coming up,
we meet the lady who ended up
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'being put under surveillance
by scammers.'
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He had been out there
for about 10 or 15 minutes
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whilst the phone call was going on
with the scammer inside.
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'Before the break,
here's a little quiz for you.
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'According to the UK's
National Cyber Security Centre,
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'in 2019, which of these
was the most overused password?
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'Was it...'
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'Yes, really,
one of those is correct.
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'Find out which one
after the break.'
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'Before the breakl asked...'
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'And it was actually C - 123456,
appearing 23 million times.
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'Now, if any of those
were your passwords,
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'please change them, I beg you.
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'Because as we saw earlier,
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'it was very easy to find out
quite a lot from very little.
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'Email and password details
being hacked from popular websites
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'dominate the news
on an almost monthly basis.
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'This is known as a data breach,
after which,
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'lists of private details
are readily available online.
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'But how do you know if
your password has been caught up
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'in this type of hack?'
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Sometimes,
through no fault of your own,
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your password may have been leaked
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or exposed by hackers
on the World Wide Web.
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Now, there is an easy
way to find out
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if your password has been leaked.
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You go to a website like this one -
Have|BeenPwned.com
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P-W-N-E-D.
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Now, we have an email that
we can try, it's one of the team,
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they don't use it any more.
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So I'm going to paste it in here,
and I'm going to ask this website...
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"Oh, no - pwned!" it says.
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There's nine places on the internet
where this has been breached.
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That means that the password
is available to hackers.
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The password that's associated
with that email address.
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It's really easy, it takes less
than a second, it costs nothing.
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Stick your email address in there.
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If your password
appears to have been pwned,
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change it and change it immediately.
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'Now, it's clear in the UK we do
love to do a bit of online shopping.
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'In fact, in 2022, four in five
sales were done digitally.
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'Understandably, that means
big business for scammers.
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'Bud from South London
was unwittingly about to fall for
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'a fairly new yet deceptive scam
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'that uses the power of information
and our trust in deliveries.'
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'Bud's scam began one day
when a courier arrived at her door.'
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DOORBELL RINGS
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'Not entirely unusual,
you may think,
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'but she was not
expecting a parcel at all.'
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I'd been playing a tennis match
and I had got back here,
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and I was just having a bit of
a lie down and my door bell went.
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Ancl someone said,
"Delivery for you."
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So I went down and I opened the door
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and a very nice-looking delivery guy
handed me a small parcel,
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and inside, I found
a brand-new iPhone Pro Max.
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Ancl I thought,
"Wow, who's sent this to me?"
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'Good question, Bud.
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'At current prices, that model
of phone is selling at around £900.
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'That's a very generous gift
indeed.'
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So I was curious and was just
sitting there looking at it
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when my landline went.
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PHONE RINGS
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First of all, I didn't answer
because it said "caller withheld".
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It rang again, I ignored it.
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It rang again,
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I think they listened
to the message on my answerphone
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which gave my mobile phone number.
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My mobile phone rang, no caller ID.
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When Bud finally answered,
to her surprise,
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it was a man claiming to be
from the courier company
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checking in about the phone
that was just delivered.
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Very apologetic, saying he was
from the courier company,
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and that there had been
a systems error, effectively,
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and what they needed to do
was come and retrieve the package
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and get it to the person
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to whom it should have been sent
in the first place.
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So I asked how he had got my number,
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and he said,
"From the BT electoral roll,"
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and carried on talking.
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'It's a typical scammer's trick -
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'the caller was trying
to gain Bud's trust
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'using information that was
fairly readily available online
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'or in the phone book.'
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And he said,
"Don't worry, I'll sort it out,
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"I'll get someone to come
and collect it from you."
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'And within ten minutes
a new courier was back.
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'The whole exchange was captured on
Bud's neighbour's doorbell camera.'
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I got a phone call again saying,
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"I've arranged for someone
and they're right outside now."
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So I said, "Oh, OK,"
335
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and I went downstairs,
and I went outside,
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and there was a guy standing there
in an orange hi-vis jacket
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with a car that looked a bit
like a taxi
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and he said something like,
"|'m here to pick it up."
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'Bud handed over the package,
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00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,895
'but the next day,
she felt something wasn't right.
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00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,375
'When she checked
her neighbour's doorbell footage,
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'it made for some chilling viewing,
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'as it showed the man in the taxi
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'had been outside the whole time,
waiting.'
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So, he's loitering outside,
has been, apparently, for a while,
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and waiting untill emerge,
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and then...
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So, he's walking up and down a bit.
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He had been out there
for about 10 or 15 minutes,
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which is whilst
the phone call was going on
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with the scammer inside.
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'Yep, you heard that right -
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'while the phone call was going on
with the fake courier company,
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00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,495
'the man in the taxi
was already outside
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'waiting to intercept the package
from the genuine delivery man.'
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00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,975
Ancl I was thinking, "Oh, my gosh,
is it going to be identity fraud?"
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Cos they've got all my details,
they've got my name, my address.
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I was feeling quite vulnerable
by now.
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So that's when
I got really concerned.
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'Bud spoke to
the mobile phone company
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'and soon realised it was a scam -
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'and how it had worked.'
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An agreement had been set up
in my name, fraudulently,
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for the scamsters to get hold
of a brand-new iPhone
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without any money
changing hands at all,
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but with my name and my details
having been given
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as part of the agreement.
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00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,015
'The scam works by stealing
someone's details
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'to sign up to a phone contract.
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'The scammers then
intercept the delivery,
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'which, in Bud's case,
was in her name,
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'meaning she would've had to
foot the bill
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'for a phone she gave away
to the thieves.
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00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,415
'Luckily,
she spotted the scam early,
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'or she could have been completely
unaware of a contract in her name.'
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00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,815
And the wager that goes on,
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that I'm in default of payment,
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the more of an impact
that has on my credit rating.
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00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:12,055
Ancl it also puts up a red flag
against your name
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as far as mobile phone companies
are concerned.
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00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,255
'The National Fraud
Investigation Bureau
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'were made aware of over 300 frauds
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'similar to this one
in just one month.
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'And every single one of them
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'could have affected
the victim's credit rating.
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00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,055
'So how can we protect ourselves?'
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There are some simple steps
you can take
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to help protect
or even fix your credit score.
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First up, look -
have a look through it.
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00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,295
Make sure that
you recognise everything in it.
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If there's something
that stands out,
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then contact one of
the three agencies immediately -
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that's Experian, Equifax
and TransUnion.
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00:20:53,360 --> 00:20:55,335
Let them know
what you don't recognise
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and urge them
to fix it straightaway.
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00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,095
Next up - monitor.
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00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:01,015
There are plenty of free services
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that will send you
your credit report every month
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00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,735
and tell you
if it's gone up or down.
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That's a very, very good way
of keeping an eye on it.
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And finally - protect.
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You can actually put a password
on your credit score.
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00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,495
This means that
if a scammer is trying to
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00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,095
take out credit in your name,
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00:21:18,120 --> 00:21:20,255
the lender will ask them
for that password,
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00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:21,975
and if they don't have it,
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00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,695
well, you've just stopped a scam
in its tracks.
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00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:33,455
'Each week, I'm going to have a
little fun at the scammers' expense,
409
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,855
'exposing their tricks
and, ultimately,
410
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,175
'well, wasting their time.
411
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,655
'And this week, I've been
trawling social media for scams,
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00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:45,335
'the sort that pretend to offer lots
of money for very little effort.'
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00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,015
There's accounts who find you with
deals that are too good to be true,
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00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:57,575
or that you can win something
simply by answering a question.
415
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,815
'You could easily assume
they are genuine competitions,
416
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,295
'but in reality,
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00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,055
'they're just a clever technique
to steal your profile.'
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00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,975
And this is one such account.
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00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,215
We think that this account
has been taken over by scammers
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00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,735
because this is an account
that used to belong to someone
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00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,095
who one of our researchers knew
and had been in contact with.
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00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:21,135
And then all of a sudden
this account reached out to them
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00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,055
with this sort of bizarre offer.
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00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,855
You get given a riddle,
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00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,375
and if you answer it,
you get £1,000.
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00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:29,615
So let's see what happens.
427
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,255
So, here it is.
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00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,215
READS ALOUD
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00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,335
"The winner gets £1,000."
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00:22:43,360 --> 00:22:45,215
Hmm, tricky.
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00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,855
Ex-policeman.
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00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,735
Could it be his job?
433
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,695
Let's see, if I reply with,
"His job."
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00:22:54,360 --> 00:22:55,695
See what happens.
435
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,015
So, we've sent.
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00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:03,695
Do we get to win £1,000 for solving
a not-so-difficult riddle,
437
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,815
but a riddle nonetheless?
438
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,455
Shall I just say,
"Can I have £1,000 now?"
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00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:12,575
Oh, hang on.
440
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:17,055
"Send me your PayPal," she says.
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00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:18,135
Double kiss.
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00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,135
"Do I really get 1K?"
443
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,135
IIYh - II
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00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,215
Use some vowels!
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00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,015
"How quickly can you send?"
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00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,295
I swear to God, if this answer
doesn't have a vowel in it,
447
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,375
I'm gonna blow my top.
448
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,935
'After a bit of back and forth
about payment methods,
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00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,735
'she, well, the scammer is adamant
that this is a genuine deal.'
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00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,535
"ls this a scam?"
451
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,495
Reply - "Nah, it's legit."
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00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:53,055
That's the reassurance
I was hoping for.
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00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:57,295
"|t's a giveaway from my sponsor."
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00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,335
Ooh, she sent us a little picture.
What's that?
455
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,775
OK, so this is a previous...
456
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,975
She's sent us a screenshot
of money being paid.
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00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,655
So... Wow.
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00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:16,975
Forget everything I just said,
I think I'm in the money!
459
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,055
'OK, so I've had the sales pitch,
460
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,295
'what's the scammer really after?'
461
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:24,975
"Send me your phone number."
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00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,375
That's all.
463
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,775
Now, what's interesting here is that
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00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,095
she says that in order
for the money to be sent,
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00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:36,135
her sponsor needs
a quick verification.
466
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:37,415
But this is really key.
467
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,815
She says, "A verification code
will be sent via SMS
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00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,535
"to confirm your payment."
469
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:48,415
'And, spoiler alert,
this is how the scam works.'
470
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,135
This scammer is going to try
and take over our account
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00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:55,495
by using our mobile number that
is associated with this account.
472
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,815
And this verification code
which will be sent to us
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00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,415
as confirmation of payment
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00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,735
is actually going to be
a one-time password.
475
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,215
'So if we were to fill out
the forgotten password
476
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,215
'on a website like Facebook,
let's say,
477
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,615
'it would text us
a code to our mobile.'
478
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,815
So if she says, "Oh, did you get
the verification code?
479
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,295
"Let me just check, what is it?"
480
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,015
If we gave her that code,
481
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,975
then she'd have all she needs
to take over our account.
482
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,615
'Because once
they have access to it,
483
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,895
'they have a fully convincing
and functional profile,
484
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,575
'pictures and all,
485
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,015
'which they're free to use
for other scams,
486
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,415
'such as romance cons
and bogus sales.
487
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,455
'Sadly, this is exactly
what we think has happened
488
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,455
'to the person who owned the account
we are now being messaged from.
489
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,495
'But one thing's for sure...'
490
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,055
I'm not going to win £1,000.
491
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,175
'Well, I can't pretend
I'm not disappointed,
492
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,455
'but with so many different scams
and fraud afoot,
493
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,015
'which is the most likely
you would encounter?
494
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,215
'IS it...'
495
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,535
'Find out after the break,
496
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,055
'where we'll also meet the family
497
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,455
'who lost the entire cost
of their dream home to scammers.'
498
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,775
How much did you send?
£120,000.
499
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,495
'Before the break, I asked you...'
500
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,295
'And it's B - impersonation fraud.
501
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:42,255
'In the UK, statistics of scams
make for pretty grim reading.
502
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,975
'96% of fraud cases
are never solved,
503
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,415
'so is it any wonder so many of us
are being targeted
504
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,055
'by so many
different types of scams?'
505
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:57,295
The scarier scams are the ones
where one individual is targeted
506
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,495
and the scammers lie in wait
507
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,975
and can potentially be in
for a massive payday
508
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,375
to the tune of
hundreds of thousands of pounds.
509
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,655
'It's what happened to Michelle
and her family,
510
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,695
'and they ended up
losing nearly everything.'
511
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,375
'Spain, with its beautiful coast
and relaxing climate,
512
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,895
'it's always been
a popular destination for Brits.
513
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,535
'That was what appealed
to Michelle and her family,
514
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,135
'who set about moving there in 2020.
515
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,775
'Using a website connected
to a well-known TV property series,
516
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:39,615
'they purchased an apartment
for £120,000.
517
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,535
'Of course, this is where
the story SHOULD be starting...
518
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,295
'but it isn't.'
RECORD SCRATCH
519
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,375
'In fact, thanks to an incredibly
heartless and frightening scam,
520
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,695
'Michelle and her family
never made it.'
521
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,895
Michelle, let's start
from the beginning.
522
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,335
Did you do any background checks
on this website?
523
00:27:57,360 --> 00:27:59,495
Yeah, we clone an awful lot
of looking into it,
524
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,095
into the background, to make sure...
525
00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:03,455
It's very well known,
so everyone knows of it,
526
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,375
so it seemed quite straightforward.
527
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,295
'They arranged the sale
using a Spanish property solicitor
528
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:10,975
'recommended on the website.'
529
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,895
So, we had emails back and forth,
530
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:19,375
and we had an email
that stated the bank details
531
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,095
to send our money to.
532
00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:23,335
How much did you send?
£120,000.
533
00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:25,575
So they weren't asking
for a deposit,
534
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,495
they were asking
for the whole thing.
535
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,015
£120,000 - we were cash buyers.
OK.
536
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,975
We then received
an email two clays later
537
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,775
saying they hadn't
received any money.
538
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,975
'It's every house buyer's
worst nightmare.
539
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,775
'Somewhere along the line,
£120,000 had vanished,
540
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:46,735
'despite being paid into the account
given by the solicitors on email.'
541
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,695
The email address was
our solicitors' email address
542
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:54,335
but someone had hacked
into something and got our details
543
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,615
and we weren't actually speaking
to the solicitors on the emails,
544
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,575
we were speaking to somebody else.
545
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,615
So the email body looked identical
to your solicitors' email body?
546
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,575
Everything was identical.
547
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:10,375
'Somehow, the email exchange between
Michelle and the solicitors in Spain
548
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,655
'had been infiltrated,
so they could take it over.
549
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,535
'The scammer had then created
550
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,975
'an almost identical email
to the solicitors',
551
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,695
'but adding small differences
to the address
552
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,215
'to easily trick the human eye.
553
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,415
'just take a look at these two
similar emails side by side.
554
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,015
'It's easy to miss.
555
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,415
'And this is how
Friday afternoon fraud works.
556
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,295
'A crook will somehow find a buyer,
falsify an email address,
557
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,295
'and then hack a conversation
to send different bank details.'
558
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,695
What was going through your mind
when you were being told
559
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,975
none of the money's arrived?
560
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,375
All I can say is when you go onto
your mobile phone banking app,
561
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,335
imagine everything's gone
and it's zero...
562
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:53,935
Yeah.
..and you have to go home
563
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,415
to your family and explain to them
that everything's gone.
564
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,095
There's nothing.
565
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,175
All the emotions,
from not wanting to get out of bed,
566
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,615
grying, to angry.
567
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,815
You're just going through
everything.
568
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,975
'Friday afternoon fraud
is given this name
569
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,175
'because it usually happens
on a Friday
570
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,575
'as it allows the scammer
to escape immediate investigation,
571
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,615
'with victims sometimes
not realising they've been conned
572
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,855
'until the following Monday.
573
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,255
'As no-one knows how
the email exchange was hacked,
574
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,895
'so far, Michelle's bank
and solicitors
575
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,455
'have taken no responsibility
for the scam.'
576
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:30,655
How are you coping?
577
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,695
120 grand to be lost,
that's a lot of money.
578
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,055
If I spoke to you
maybe a year and a half ago,
579
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,415
I probably wouldn't have been able
to finish a sentence.
580
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,615
Right.
581
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,455
I just want an answer from the bank,
how they can send my money
582
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,975
to an account
that was not a 100% match.
583
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,375
I want to know
what they're going to do about it.
584
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,695
Ancl after that, I don't know,
585
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,095
I'm just gonna have to try
and find some other companies
586
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,895
and avenues to go down.
587
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,895
I'll keep trying.
I'm not gonna go quiet.
588
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,455
'Many banks have signed up to
the Contingent Reimbursement Model,
589
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:12,375
'or CRM, designed to help people
recover money lost to fraud.
590
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:17,095
'However, it only applies to
payments sent to and from UK banks,
591
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,815
'which doesn't help Michelle.
592
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,455
'Jodie Parman is from Refundee -
593
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,495
'an organisation that
fights for consumers
594
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,175
'when they've been
refused compensation after a scam.'
595
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,495
Let's look at one of the most
confusing parts, I think,
596
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,535
that people find themselves in,
597
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,415
which is getting reimbursed after
they've lost money to a scammer.
598
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,655
Some people get reimbursed
straightaway,
599
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,855
some people don't get reimbursed
at all.
600
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,815
There's a whole lot of confusion,
isn't there?
601
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,175
Yeah, there are times,
unfortunately,
602
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,055
when customers have fallen to a scam
603
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,375
and there isn't any way
that they can get their money back.
604
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,855
There's a few routes that they can
get their money back.
605
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,775
One is through the CRM Code.
Mm-hm.
606
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,495
That only applies
to UK bank transfers,
607
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,495
so if it falls
out of that parameter,
608
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,895
then, unfortunately,
it's a little bit more difficult
609
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,415
for people to get their money back.
610
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,335
So, if I sent money
from a UK bank to another UK bank,
611
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,855
that is easier to retrieve
612
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:19,375
than if I sent money
from my UK bank to a bank abroad?
613
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,975
Yeah, so there's a couple
of reasons for that.
614
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,695
The first one
is the actual recovery of money.
615
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,975
So, banks will try
and recover the money
616
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,975
from the bank account
that it's gone to.
617
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,215
Often, scammers
are very clever with that,
618
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,215
they move the money out
straightaway.
619
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,935
The other side of it is that
the scam has to be convincing.
620
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,735
The scam has to be convincing?
621
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,975
Yeah. So, probably the most common
excuse that we see,
622
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,535
in terms of being refused a refund
under the CRM Code,
623
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,975
would normally be that they didn't
do enough checks on the company.
624
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,015
Ancl I think the banks think that
because they've said that,
625
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:58,255
the customers will just go away and
they won't do anything to pursue it,
626
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,415
when, actually, if they go down
the route of complaining
627
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,295
and going to
the Financial Ombudsman,
628
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,695
they are very likely
to get their money back.
629
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,935
'It certainly feels like
a minefield,
630
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,615
'and with so many scams out there,
we must all do our bit
631
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,815
'to be cautious and report them.
632
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,255
'But where is the most common place
to find a scam?
633
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:18,735
'IS it...'
634
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,695
'Find out after this short break,
635
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,935
'when we'll see how scammers can
switch off your security cameras.'
636
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,735
Switch this on,
everything will be dead?
637
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,855
Yep, nothing wireless,
nothing at all.
638
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,575
'Before the break, we asked...'
639
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,375
'Of course, it's on email.
640
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,575
One thing scammers
are really good at
641
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,095
is changing up their tactics.
642
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,855
They always like to
keep up with technology,
643
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,375
new platforms and news trends.
644
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,775
But there are some scams out there
that are so successful,
645
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:13,415
the scammers keep using them
over and over and over again
646
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,215
because they work.
647
00:34:15,240 --> 00:34:19,255
'The mum and dad scam is still
a very effective method
648
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,495
'of fraudulently taking money
from unsuspecting people.
649
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:29,055
'There have been hundreds of reports
of this scam already in 2023.
650
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:33,095
'It works by crooks sending
unsolicited text messages
651
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:34,735
'to random people,
652
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,775
'pretending to be a child
in trouble, needing money,
653
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,615
'as Judith from Somerset
was to find out.'
654
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,375
'At the time,
Judith didn't find the message
655
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,975
'out of the ordinary at all.'
656
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,215
Tell me about
the first message you received.
657
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,375
The first message I received
just said something like,
658
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,975
"Hi, Mum, my phone is damaged,
water damage,
659
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,295
"dropped it in the sink,"
something like that.
660
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,295
What was your first response?
661
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,335
My first response was I said,
"Who are you?"
662
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,295
Yeah.
Ancl she said, "The eldest."
663
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,135
Clever.
Very clever.
664
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,015
And she said,
"Mum, this is really urgent.
665
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,015
"I need some money
before Wednesday."
666
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,495
"I'll pay you back Wednesday."
667
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,575
'In a cruel twist,
668
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,415
'judith's daughter had recently
suffered a bereavement
669
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,695
'when her husband died suddenly.
670
00:35:35,720 --> 00:35:40,095
'It made the message seem
that much more convincing.'
671
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:44,815
Did it go through your mind at all
to check, maybe, with the old number
672
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,015
and see if the old one
was still working?
673
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,255
Not at all, because I believed
it had been damaged in the sink!
674
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,095
'This is a textbook scammer's trick,
675
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,975
'keeping you off the phone
with various excuses
676
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,055
'as to why they cannot
talk in person.
677
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,375
'Judith did ask the right questions
678
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,215
'and suggested she called
her daughter to discuss it,
679
00:36:07,240 --> 00:36:10,415
'but the person pretending
to be her daughter
680
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,895
'was full of good excuses as to why
she couldn't take the call.'
681
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,215
Then it's like, you're saying,
682
00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:17,855
"Lovely to do something
simple for you."
683
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,295
Yeah. You're making me cry now.
684
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,415
Sorry, Judith. Sorry.
685
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:24,895
But do you know what? Again...
686
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,175
You know, for me, I know you feel
a bit silly about all this,
687
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,135
but for me, I see...
688
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,175
...the milk of human kindness.
I do love her.
689
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,055
And there's some
horrific human being
690
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,055
who's basically taking advantage
691
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,735
of a mother's instinct
to help her daughter.
692
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,815
Ancl a daughter who was having
a bloody lousy time.
693
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,295
Exactly.
694
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,375
'Judith is not alone.
695
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,415
'Data shows that, in 2023,
this scam cost victims
696
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,775
'upwards of £460,000.
697
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:02,015
'In fact, unsolicited scam texts
on apps like WhatsApp
698
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,815
'have risen a whopping 300%.'
699
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,335
So what happened when you contacted
your bank to send the money?
700
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,815
When I put the details in,
the bank came back
701
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,335
saying that the name didn't match
with the account number.
702
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,895
Ancl so I then went back
to her again saying,
703
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,895
"The bank is concerned about this,
they're not the right things."
704
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,895
But the scammer reassured me
that it was fine.
705
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:34,455
You have quite a sort of jokey
sort of exchange where you said,
706
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,655
"Prove to me that
you're my daughter."
707
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,935
If you like, my heart
was ruling my head at that point.
708
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,695
My head is thinking,
"This is a bit odd."
709
00:37:43,720 --> 00:37:44,815
But my heart was saying,
710
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,015
"Ask your own daughter to prove
she's your daughter?" You know?
711
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,215
'Despite her reservations,
712
00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:53,455
'Judith convinced herself
it was her eldest daughter
713
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,295
'and sent nearly £2,000
714
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,255
'to a bank account
under the name of Rhys.'
715
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,095
When did the penny drop?
716
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,895
Well, I think it was when we had
this nice little conversation
717
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:10,215
where she said, "Thank you,
I do appreciate it," etc, etc,
718
00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:13,455
I think she said, "I love you, Mum."
Mm-hm.
719
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,695
Ancl I felt very warmed
and appreciated and so on.
720
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,135
'This is another scammer's trick -
721
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,695
'and probably
the most callous of them all-
722
00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:28,335
'using emotion to convince you
to part with even more money.'
723
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,375
And then she says,
724
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,455
"And nowl need 1,400
and something or other."
725
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,895
Ancl I just started thinking,
"What's going on?"
726
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,095
And did you call your real daughter?
727
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,495
Yes.
And of course she was saying...
728
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,735
She said, "What are you on about?
I'm fine."
729
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:51,775
At the time, I felt
absolutely pathetic, I would say.
730
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,535
I felt, "I really am an old lady."
731
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,455
I don't go around feeling
I'm an old lady most of the time.
732
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,055
I didn't want to tell anybody.
But you weren't stupid.
733
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,735
They're just very good at their job.
Yes.
734
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,775
'It's clear that social media
and communication apps
735
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,255
'are rich pickings for scammers.'
736
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:15,415
80% of all fraud carried out
in the UK is committed online.
737
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,375
But what about the other 20%,
physical fraud?
738
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,535
Are we doing enough
to make sure we're staying safe?
739
00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:26,015
'A recent study shows that we are.
740
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:27,455
'Well, sort of.
741
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:33,855
'One in five home owners now have
an internet camera doorbell.
742
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,495
'As we saw earlier,
they helped catch a courier scammer,
743
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,255
'and they've been known
to catch car criminals
744
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,175
'and burglars in the act.
745
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,775
'But are these cameras the solution
that we think they are?'
746
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,895
And, luckily, I know the man to ask.
747
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,935
'I'm going to catch up
with ethical hacker
748
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,975
'and tech expert Mike Godfrey,
749
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:59,295
'who happens to have one of the most
popular brands of home security.
750
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,855
'But to be clear,
what he's about to show me
751
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,175
'can affect every brand
of internet-enabled doorbell
752
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,615
'on the market.'
753
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,335
Why are we stood outside your house?
754
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,255
I have a feeling
you're going to tell me
755
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,935
by showing me what on earth
that is attached to your hand.
756
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,455
So, here we have
a broad-rangejammer.
757
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,255
So, this will jam Wi-Fi, Bluetooth,
car keys, everything.
758
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,415
Ancl where these obviously
rely on Wi-Fi,
759
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:23,975
as soon as we turn this on,
760
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,175
we lose all functionality
from any video doorbell.
761
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,935
So, something like this
basically knocks out
762
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,655
any wireless communication?
Anything, yeah.
763
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,375
‘Now, I know what you're thinking,
this is all a bit James Bond.
764
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,615
'Although these gadgets
are not illegal to own,
765
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,535
'they are illegal to use
766
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,735
'because of the interference
the tech can cause.'
767
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,655
I know it's kind of naughty,
768
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,655
but can we kind of have
a brief look at how it works?
769
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,495
Like, can we see this working
770
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,215
and then what happens
when you turn this on?
771
00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:55,735
Of course we can.
772
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,935
'Mike is using
the lowest power setting
773
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,215
'which he has downgraded
to a five-metre radius.
774
00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:06,735
'This means it will only affect
his own personal devices.
775
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,575
'At maximum power,
776
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,415
'these gadgets can knock out
devices 25 metres away.'
777
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,375
Mike is gonna get into position
778
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,335
and we're gonna see him
on the video doorbell here.
779
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:19,535
So, there he is.
780
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,575
Now, when I give him the word go,
781
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,415
he's gonna flick a switch
on thatjammer
782
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,375
and then we'll see what happens.
783
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,255
Mike, are you ready?
I'm ready.
784
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,135
OK, give us a wave
so we can see the live picture.
785
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,495
When you're ready
just flick that switch
786
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,055
and we'll see what happens.
787
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:38,775
Are you still waving?
788
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,095
He's waving,
and now he's completely frozen.
789
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:46,175
There's nothing there at all.
790
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,255
The Wi-Fi's gone.
791
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,135
That is insane.
792
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,575
That is absolutely insane.
Everything went dead.
793
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,615
That's crazy!
794
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,175
Yeah, it's super effective
for this type of crime, definitely.
795
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:05,655
'It's estimated there could be
upward of 450 uses of jamming
796
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,735
'in the UK every day.
797
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:14,655
'In 2022, 130,000 cars
were stolen in Britain,
798
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,255
'so the ease of this experiment
is quite shocking,
799
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,615
'but important to highlight.'
800
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,815
So, they turn this on
when they're out of sight,
801
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,175
you can get them ranging
from 5-100 metres, or even more,
802
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,575
and as soon as they approach
your property,
803
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,295
this will pick up nothing,
nothing at all.
804
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,215
So, your lovely car,
if I've got my eye on it,
805
00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:38,695
I could come here, switch this on,
806
00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:41,535
you won't get a notification
that someone's at your door,
807
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,695
I can get in, none of your cameras
will pick me up,
808
00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:46,135
motion detector, nothing.
809
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,415
Nope, nothing wireless.
Nothing at all.
810
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,415
'Within seconds,
the Wi-Fi signal was gone,
811
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,615
'meaning a video doorbell or CCTV
812
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,455
'that relied on an
internet connection would be dead.
813
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,095
'But there ARE ways
that we can protect ourselves.'
814
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,495
Anything wireless is susceptible
to this type of attack,
815
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,695
so wiring things in.
816
00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:07,015
You can get some quite inexpensive
wired video cameras,
817
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,415
surveillance cameras,
alarm systems, etc.
818
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,055
That stops this attack completely.
819
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,255
Back to old school.
820
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:14,575
That's it.
Old school.
821
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,735
Old school works, folks.
That's the key.
822
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,175
'And what of the rest of the people
823
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,855
'who have been caught up by scams
in this episode?
824
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,895
'Well, it's been something
of a mixed bag of results.'
825
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,255
Now, Bud had a narrow escape,
she didn't actually lose any money,
826
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,015
and, thankfully, her credit score
wasn't affected either.
827
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,255
However, having been a victim
of identity theft,
828
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,255
she needs to be wary
829
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,615
that her name is not gonna be used
in other scams.
830
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,975
Daria, unfortunately,
831
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,455
is still out of pocket
to the tune of £10,000.
832
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,335
She's still fighting her case,
hopeful that, at some point,
833
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,215
she will be reimbursed
for her losses.
834
00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:57,335
Judith did eventually
get her money back,
835
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:01,855
but she still feels aggrieved,
like many victims of scams do,
836
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,255
at the lack of empathy shown to her,
not only by her bank,
837
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,295
but also by the police.
838
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:11,535
'Sadly for Michelle, the battles
with her bank and solicitors go on.
839
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,855
'Currently, she remains
£120,000 out of pocket
840
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,735
'and is taking the case
to the Financial Ombudsman.
841
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,095
'Next time,
a woman loses her life savings
842
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,655
'to a callous scammer...'
843
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,335
Did you get any of it back?
No.
844
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,855
'..the scam that locks you out
of your smart phone
845
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,255
'and steals your money...'
846
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,695
I tried to disconnect my phone
and I couldn't.
847
00:44:37,720 --> 00:44:40,535
They'd taken over my handset.
848
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,335
'..and I take some tips
from a romance scammer's playbook.'
849
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,695
This section is called
"Dream you had for her.
850
00:44:46,720 --> 00:44:48,695
"Sex dream..."
It's quite explicit.
851
00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:51,335
It starts... My goodness. OK.
852
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,055
'Have you been scammed?
Do you have a tip for us?
853
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,575
'Then go to...
854
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:03,615
'..and get in touch.'
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