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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:18,143 --> 00:00:21,943 # Oh, my name, it is nothin' # 2 00:00:22,105 --> 00:00:24,417 Well, I wanted to name him after his clad, 3 00:00:24,441 --> 00:00:27,240 Denton Winslow Crocker. 4 00:00:27,361 --> 00:00:30,991 So that was the name we chose. 5 00:00:31,114 --> 00:00:33,367 He was a colicky little baby. 6 00:00:33,492 --> 00:00:37,372 And, uh, so we were up night and day with him. 7 00:00:37,496 --> 00:00:40,750 And my husband was a wonderful dad 8 00:00:40,874 --> 00:00:43,093 and very loving and attentive. 9 00:00:43,210 --> 00:00:45,053 He'd walk the floor with him. 10 00:00:45,170 --> 00:00:48,970 And then he said one day, "He's a regular little mogul 11 00:00:49,091 --> 00:00:52,095 the way he rules our lives." 12 00:00:52,219 --> 00:00:54,392 So that's where the name came from. 13 00:00:54,513 --> 00:00:55,981 We called him Mogie. 14 00:00:56,098 --> 00:01:00,604 Mogie Crocker was born June 3, 1947, 15 00:01:00,727 --> 00:01:03,071 the oldest of four children. 16 00:01:03,188 --> 00:01:04,986 His father was a biology teacher, 17 00:01:05,148 --> 00:01:08,243 and Mogie was raised in college towns: 18 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:12,661 Ithaca, Amherst, and finally Saratoga Springs, 19 00:01:12,781 --> 00:01:17,378 to which the family moved in 1960, when he was 13. 20 00:01:17,494 --> 00:01:21,340 My mother read books to all of us. 21 00:01:21,498 --> 00:01:23,671 My brother was definitely the one 22 00:01:23,834 --> 00:01:26,462 who probably gravitated towards them more than I did. 23 00:01:26,587 --> 00:01:28,681 He really feasted on books. 24 00:01:28,797 --> 00:01:31,516 Mogie was an unusual boy. 25 00:01:31,633 --> 00:01:34,978 Intelligent, independent-minded, and too nearsighted 26 00:01:35,095 --> 00:01:37,143 to do well at team sports, 27 00:01:37,264 --> 00:01:41,110 he loved books about American history and American heroes. 28 00:01:41,226 --> 00:01:43,604 At 12, he started a diary 29 00:01:43,729 --> 00:01:46,858 in which he kept track of Cold War events. 30 00:01:46,982 --> 00:01:49,201 "I hate Reds!" he wrote, 31 00:01:49,359 --> 00:01:51,987 and he admired most those who had proved willing 32 00:01:52,112 --> 00:01:55,912 to sacrifice themselves for a cause. 33 00:01:56,033 --> 00:01:58,912 President John F. Kennedy's call for every American 34 00:01:59,036 --> 00:02:02,666 to ask what he or she could do for their country 35 00:02:02,789 --> 00:02:07,340 had mirrored ideas he'd held since he was a small boy. 36 00:02:07,461 --> 00:02:10,465 One evening when I was reading to Denton 37 00:02:10,589 --> 00:02:16,312 before he went to sleep, I chose a passage from Henry V, 38 00:02:16,428 --> 00:02:21,685 which is, "He today that sheds his blood with me 39 00:02:21,808 --> 00:02:23,902 "shall be my brother. 40 00:02:24,061 --> 00:02:28,862 "And gentlemen in England now a-bed 41 00:02:28,982 --> 00:02:31,451 "shall think themselves accurs'd 42 00:02:31,568 --> 00:02:35,698 "they were not here and hold their manhood cheap 43 00:02:35,822 --> 00:02:40,703 while any speaks that fought with us upon St. Crispin's Day." 44 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,590 # If another war comes... # 45 00:02:45,707 --> 00:02:48,005 I think that it was that sort of thing 46 00:02:48,126 --> 00:02:49,969 that made Denton want to be 47 00:02:50,087 --> 00:02:55,594 part of something important and brave. 48 00:02:55,759 --> 00:02:58,729 # With God on their side. # 49 00:03:11,817 --> 00:03:14,462 I just stayed awake last night thinking about this thing. 50 00:03:14,486 --> 00:03:18,116 The more I think of it, I don't know what in the hell... 51 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,493 it looks like to me we're getting into another Korea. 52 00:03:20,617 --> 00:03:22,290 It just worries the hell out of me. 53 00:03:22,452 --> 00:03:24,955 I don't see what we can ever hope to get out of there with 54 00:03:25,122 --> 00:03:26,248 once we're committed. 55 00:03:26,373 --> 00:03:28,375 I don't think it's worth fighting for 56 00:03:28,500 --> 00:03:29,922 and I don't think we can get out. 57 00:03:30,043 --> 00:03:31,688 And it's just the biggest damn mess I ever saw. 58 00:03:31,712 --> 00:03:33,314 It is, it's an awful mess. 59 00:03:33,338 --> 00:03:36,137 I just thought about ordering those kids in there, 60 00:03:36,299 --> 00:03:37,985 and what in the hell am I ordering them out there for? 61 00:03:38,009 --> 00:03:39,445 One thing that has occurred to me... 62 00:03:39,469 --> 00:03:40,947 What the hell is Vietnam worth to me? 63 00:03:40,971 --> 00:03:42,644 What is it worth to this country? 64 00:03:42,806 --> 00:03:44,149 Yeah, yeah. 65 00:03:44,266 --> 00:03:46,452 Now, of course, if you start running the communists, 66 00:03:46,476 --> 00:03:48,454 they may just chase you right into your own kitchen. 67 00:03:48,478 --> 00:03:51,106 Yeah. That's the trouble. 68 00:03:51,231 --> 00:03:54,075 And that is what the rest of that half of the world 69 00:03:54,192 --> 00:03:57,617 is going to think if this thing comes apart on us. 70 00:03:57,738 --> 00:03:59,257 It's damned easy to get in a war, 71 00:03:59,281 --> 00:04:00,925 but it's going to be awfully hard to ever extricate yourself 72 00:04:00,949 --> 00:04:01,950 if you get in. 73 00:04:02,075 --> 00:04:03,327 It's very easy... 74 00:04:03,493 --> 00:04:05,054 I'd like to hear Walter and McNamara to evaluate this thing. 75 00:04:05,078 --> 00:04:06,078 To debate it? 76 00:04:06,121 --> 00:04:07,338 Yeah. 77 00:04:07,497 --> 00:04:09,217 All right, what's a possible time...? 78 00:04:10,876 --> 00:04:13,846 Tragedy had brought Lyndon Johnson to the presidency 79 00:04:14,004 --> 00:04:17,099 in November of 1963. 80 00:04:17,215 --> 00:04:19,843 And he would not feel himself fully in charge 81 00:04:20,010 --> 00:04:23,890 until he had faced the voters the following year. 82 00:04:24,014 --> 00:04:27,359 But his ambitions for his country were as great 83 00:04:27,517 --> 00:04:30,771 as those of his hero, Franklin Roosevelt. 84 00:04:30,896 --> 00:04:32,864 During his years in the White House, 85 00:04:32,981 --> 00:04:35,154 he would lead the struggle to win passage 86 00:04:35,275 --> 00:04:39,325 of more than 200 important pieces of legislation... 87 00:04:39,446 --> 00:04:44,953 the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Voting Rights Act of 1965, 88 00:04:45,076 --> 00:04:49,422 federal aid to education, Head Start, Medicare, 89 00:04:49,539 --> 00:04:52,713 and a whole series of bills aimed at ending poverty 90 00:04:52,876 --> 00:04:55,880 in America, all intended to create 91 00:04:56,004 --> 00:04:58,803 what he called "The Great Society." 92 00:04:58,924 --> 00:05:03,521 In foreign affairs, Johnson was less self-assured. 93 00:05:03,637 --> 00:05:05,765 "Foreigners are not like the folks I'm used to," 94 00:05:05,889 --> 00:05:07,482 he once said. 95 00:05:07,599 --> 00:05:10,193 To deal with them, he retained in office 96 00:05:10,310 --> 00:05:12,984 all of John Kennedy's top advisers... 97 00:05:13,104 --> 00:05:15,072 Dean Rusk at State, 98 00:05:15,190 --> 00:05:17,613 Robert McNamara at Defense, 99 00:05:17,734 --> 00:05:21,659 McGeorge Bundy as his National Security Advisor. 100 00:05:21,780 --> 00:05:26,911 "I need you," he told them, more than his predecessor had. 101 00:05:27,077 --> 00:05:28,750 Publicly, Johnson pledged 102 00:05:28,870 --> 00:05:31,248 that "This nation will keep its commitments 103 00:05:31,414 --> 00:05:34,418 from South Vietnam to West Berlin." 104 00:05:34,584 --> 00:05:38,134 But privately, Vietnam filled him with dread. 105 00:05:38,255 --> 00:05:40,599 "It's going to be hell in a handbasket out there," 106 00:05:40,757 --> 00:05:43,476 his ambassador told him. 107 00:05:43,593 --> 00:05:46,767 "I want the South Vietnamese to get off their butts 108 00:05:46,930 --> 00:05:48,557 "and get out into those jungles 109 00:05:48,682 --> 00:05:52,858 and whip the hell out of some communists," the president said. 110 00:05:52,978 --> 00:05:55,652 "And then I want 'em to leave me alone, 111 00:05:55,772 --> 00:05:57,820 "because I've got some bigger things to do 112 00:05:57,941 --> 00:05:59,943 right here at home." 113 00:06:01,778 --> 00:06:04,952 Johnson had opposed the military coup that had overthrown 114 00:06:05,115 --> 00:06:09,245 and murdered South Vietnamese president Ngo Dinh Diem, 115 00:06:09,369 --> 00:06:12,748 fearing it would make a bad situation worse. 116 00:06:14,457 --> 00:06:16,050 It had. 117 00:06:20,380 --> 00:06:25,011 The National Liberation Front- the Viet Cong- 118 00:06:25,135 --> 00:06:28,184 was making coordinated attacks throughout the countryside, 119 00:06:28,305 --> 00:06:31,730 some 400 of them in just two weeks. 120 00:06:56,458 --> 00:06:59,587 An estimated 40% of the South Vietnamese countryside, 121 00:06:59,711 --> 00:07:02,180 and more than 50% of the people, 122 00:07:02,297 --> 00:07:06,097 were effectively in the hands of the Viet Cong. 123 00:07:06,217 --> 00:07:09,938 And the Vietnamese generals who had overthrown Ngo Dinh Diem 124 00:07:10,055 --> 00:07:13,685 were bickering among themselves. 125 00:07:13,808 --> 00:07:16,732 The assassination of Ngo Dinh Diem set in motion 126 00:07:16,853 --> 00:07:18,776 a series of coups. 127 00:07:18,897 --> 00:07:23,118 Each government was less effective than the one before. 128 00:07:23,234 --> 00:07:26,613 In January 1964, 129 00:07:26,738 --> 00:07:28,240 with U.S. encouragement, 130 00:07:28,365 --> 00:07:33,041 General Nguyen Khanh staged yet another coup. 131 00:07:33,161 --> 00:07:37,758 In March, Johnson sent McNamara to Vietnam with instructions 132 00:07:37,874 --> 00:07:41,219 to show the people that Khanh was "our boy." 133 00:07:43,213 --> 00:07:46,558 Johnson said, "Let's get him out and get him speaking to people, 134 00:07:46,716 --> 00:07:50,220 "and let McNamara go with him as well 135 00:07:50,387 --> 00:07:52,765 "so that people can see that the United States 136 00:07:52,889 --> 00:07:54,061 is solidly behind this man." 137 00:07:54,182 --> 00:07:57,402 We fully support the people of South Vietnam. 138 00:08:09,322 --> 00:08:15,921 When Khanh gave a tedious, long, laborious speech ending up with, 139 00:08:16,079 --> 00:08:18,798 "Vietnam, Vietnam, 140 00:08:18,915 --> 00:08:20,462 Vietnam a thousand years." 141 00:08:20,583 --> 00:08:23,837 McNamara leaned over to the microphone and said... 142 00:08:33,346 --> 00:08:34,826 What he was saying was something like, 143 00:08:34,889 --> 00:08:38,393 "The little duck, he wants to lie down." 144 00:08:39,811 --> 00:08:43,111 He wasn't aware of the tonal difference. 145 00:08:43,231 --> 00:08:48,579 And McNamara grabbed one fist and held them up. 146 00:08:48,695 --> 00:08:49,912 And the crowd practically 147 00:08:50,030 --> 00:08:52,124 disintegrated on the cobblestones. 148 00:08:54,284 --> 00:08:56,002 "No more of this coup shit," 149 00:08:56,119 --> 00:08:58,668 President Johnson told his advisors. 150 00:08:58,788 --> 00:09:02,634 But Khanh, too, lacked popular legitimacy, 151 00:09:02,792 --> 00:09:06,296 and other generals continued to jockey for power. 152 00:09:06,463 --> 00:09:09,888 Washington turned a deaf ear to Buddhist calls 153 00:09:10,008 --> 00:09:12,511 for the genuinely representative government 154 00:09:12,635 --> 00:09:16,390 they'd hoped they'd get when Diem was overthrown. 155 00:09:16,514 --> 00:09:21,816 Between January 1964 and June of 1965, 156 00:09:21,978 --> 00:09:25,824 there would be eight different governments. 157 00:09:25,982 --> 00:09:28,405 All of their leaders were so close to the Americans 158 00:09:28,526 --> 00:09:30,995 that they were seen as puppets. 159 00:09:32,989 --> 00:09:34,991 One weary Johnson aide suggested 160 00:09:35,158 --> 00:09:37,877 that the national symbol of South Vietnam 161 00:09:37,994 --> 00:09:39,792 should be a turnstile. 162 00:09:39,913 --> 00:09:42,837 These demonstrating students seem to symbolize 163 00:09:42,957 --> 00:09:46,757 the kind of anarchy that is descending on Saigon these days. 164 00:09:46,878 --> 00:09:49,347 This kind of political backbiting is having 165 00:09:49,464 --> 00:09:51,512 serious consequences in the countryside, 166 00:09:51,674 --> 00:09:53,847 for until a strong government begins to function 167 00:09:53,968 --> 00:09:55,345 here in Saigon, 168 00:09:55,470 --> 00:09:57,723 the war against the communists will continue to founder. 169 00:10:36,177 --> 00:10:40,353 Ho Chi Minh was still a beloved figure in North Vietnam, 170 00:10:40,473 --> 00:10:44,228 still concerned that his country remained fragile, 171 00:10:44,394 --> 00:10:47,773 still wary that stepping up the conflict in the South 172 00:10:47,897 --> 00:10:51,993 might force the Americans to take a still more active role. 173 00:10:52,110 --> 00:10:57,287 But Ho now shared power with younger, more impatient leaders. 174 00:10:57,407 --> 00:11:01,253 There had been change and turmoil in North Vietnam, too, 175 00:11:01,369 --> 00:11:04,794 just as there had been in Saigon and Washington, 176 00:11:04,914 --> 00:11:07,793 though Americans knew almost nothing about it. 177 00:11:23,099 --> 00:11:25,693 At the Ninth Party Plenum that began in Hanoi 178 00:11:25,810 --> 00:11:29,189 on November 22, 1963, 179 00:11:29,314 --> 00:11:32,193 the day President Kennedy was killed in Dallas, 180 00:11:32,317 --> 00:11:37,289 the Politburo had argued over how best to proceed in the war. 181 00:11:37,405 --> 00:11:40,784 North Vietnam's two communist patrons, 182 00:11:40,909 --> 00:11:46,507 the Soviet Union and China, were giving them conflicting advice. 183 00:12:01,262 --> 00:12:03,981 In two weeks of sometimes bitter debate, 184 00:12:04,140 --> 00:12:06,939 Ho Chi Minh, who favored the Soviet strategy, 185 00:12:07,060 --> 00:12:10,815 was outmaneuvered by party First Secretary Le Duan, 186 00:12:10,939 --> 00:12:14,318 who sided with the Chinese. 187 00:12:34,212 --> 00:12:37,341 Le Duan believed that with Diem gone, 188 00:12:37,465 --> 00:12:39,638 and the Saigon government in disarray, 189 00:12:39,759 --> 00:12:44,185 it was time to move quickly in 1964. 190 00:12:44,347 --> 00:12:49,444 He proposed a two-phase plan for victory in South Vietnam. 191 00:12:49,560 --> 00:12:52,188 The first phase would destroy ARVN forces 192 00:12:52,313 --> 00:12:55,032 through big, "decisive battles"; 193 00:12:55,191 --> 00:12:58,866 the second, an attack on the cities, Le Duan believed, 194 00:12:58,987 --> 00:13:02,708 would then set off popular revolts within them. 195 00:13:02,824 --> 00:13:04,826 Party leaders and others 196 00:13:04,951 --> 00:13:07,420 suspected of having opposed the plan 197 00:13:07,537 --> 00:13:10,837 were denounced as "revisionists," demoted, 198 00:13:10,957 --> 00:13:13,210 dismissed, imprisoned. 199 00:13:13,376 --> 00:13:16,846 Hundreds were sent to "re-education camps." 200 00:13:16,963 --> 00:13:21,969 "Uncle Ho wavers," Le Duan said, "but I have only one goal- 201 00:13:22,093 --> 00:13:23,845 final victory." 202 00:13:26,347 --> 00:13:28,020 Secretary McNamara on line O. 203 00:13:28,141 --> 00:13:29,142 Bob? 204 00:13:29,267 --> 00:13:30,735 Yes, Mr. President? 205 00:13:30,893 --> 00:13:32,288 I hate to bother you, but... 206 00:13:32,312 --> 00:13:33,188 No trouble at all. 207 00:13:33,313 --> 00:13:34,940 Tell me, have we got anybody 208 00:13:35,064 --> 00:13:37,908 that's got a military mind that can give us some military plans 209 00:13:38,067 --> 00:13:39,569 for winning that war? 210 00:13:39,736 --> 00:13:41,659 Let's get some more of something, my friend, 211 00:13:41,779 --> 00:13:43,339 because I'm going to have a heart attack 212 00:13:43,406 --> 00:13:44,550 if you don't get me something. 213 00:13:44,574 --> 00:13:46,668 We need somebody over there that can get us 214 00:13:46,784 --> 00:13:48,127 some better plans than we got, 215 00:13:48,244 --> 00:13:51,168 because what we got is what we've had since '54. 216 00:13:51,289 --> 00:13:52,791 We're not getting it done. 217 00:13:52,915 --> 00:13:54,292 We're-we're losing. 218 00:13:54,417 --> 00:13:56,419 Well, it's one reason I want to go back. 219 00:13:56,544 --> 00:13:57,813 Kick 'em in the tail a little bit 220 00:13:57,837 --> 00:13:58,897 will help here at this point. 221 00:13:58,921 --> 00:13:59,922 Yeah. 222 00:14:00,089 --> 00:14:02,217 What I want is somebody to lay up some plans 223 00:14:02,342 --> 00:14:05,266 to trap these guys and whup hell out of 'em. 224 00:14:05,428 --> 00:14:06,554 Kill some of 'em. 225 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,226 That's what I want to do. 226 00:14:08,348 --> 00:14:10,316 I'll try and bring something back 227 00:14:10,433 --> 00:14:11,452 that will meet that objective. 228 00:14:11,476 --> 00:14:12,773 Okay, Bob. 229 00:14:12,935 --> 00:14:13,935 Thank you. 230 00:14:16,647 --> 00:14:19,491 When his counselors urged him to do so, 231 00:14:19,609 --> 00:14:23,785 Johnson increased the number of American military personnel 232 00:14:23,946 --> 00:14:28,873 from 16,000 to more than 23,000 by the end of the year. 233 00:14:28,993 --> 00:14:31,997 But he wanted his own team in Saigon. 234 00:14:32,121 --> 00:14:34,544 He replaced Henry Cabot Lodge, 235 00:14:34,665 --> 00:14:38,169 making General Maxwell Taylor his ambassador, 236 00:14:38,294 --> 00:14:43,050 and selected 49-year-old General William Westmoreland, 237 00:14:43,174 --> 00:14:46,895 a decorated commander from WWII and Korea, 238 00:14:47,011 --> 00:14:49,855 to lead the American military effort. 239 00:14:49,972 --> 00:14:54,193 The president hoped to force Hanoi to abandon its support 240 00:14:54,310 --> 00:14:56,358 for the guerrilla struggle in the South 241 00:14:56,479 --> 00:15:00,404 by gradually escalating military pressure. 242 00:15:00,525 --> 00:15:04,996 He authorized American pilots to bomb North Vietnamese troops 243 00:15:05,113 --> 00:15:09,664 and installations in the neighboring country of Laos. 244 00:15:09,826 --> 00:15:11,624 And he directed the military 245 00:15:11,744 --> 00:15:13,872 to oversee South Vietnamese shelling 246 00:15:13,996 --> 00:15:19,469 of North Vietnamese islands and raids on coastal bases. 247 00:15:19,585 --> 00:15:23,055 All of it was to be conducted in secret. 248 00:15:23,172 --> 00:15:25,766 The American people were not to be told. 249 00:15:25,883 --> 00:15:29,057 It was an election year. 250 00:15:29,178 --> 00:15:32,853 Meanwhile, the Joint Chiefs of Staff felt strongly 251 00:15:33,015 --> 00:15:34,517 that the United States was fighting 252 00:15:34,684 --> 00:15:36,357 on the enemy's terms 253 00:15:36,477 --> 00:15:40,232 and urged far more drastic and dramatic action- 254 00:15:40,356 --> 00:15:44,702 air strikes against "critical targets" in North Vietnam itself 255 00:15:44,819 --> 00:15:48,995 and the deployment of U.S. forces in South Vietnam- 256 00:15:49,115 --> 00:15:50,913 boots on the ground. 257 00:15:51,033 --> 00:15:55,209 Johnson refused, fearing that such aggressive moves 258 00:15:55,329 --> 00:15:57,457 would pull China into the conflict 259 00:15:57,582 --> 00:16:02,383 just as it had entered the Korean War in 1950. 260 00:16:03,421 --> 00:16:04,606 They say get in or get out. 261 00:16:04,630 --> 00:16:05,506 Yeah. 262 00:16:05,631 --> 00:16:06,883 And I told them, 263 00:16:07,008 --> 00:16:09,056 we haven't got any Congress that will go with us, 264 00:16:09,218 --> 00:16:11,471 and we haven't got any mothers that will go with us 265 00:16:11,596 --> 00:16:13,519 in the war, and I got to win an election 266 00:16:13,639 --> 00:16:17,519 and then you can make a decision. 267 00:16:19,729 --> 00:16:21,415 Polls showed him with a commanding lead 268 00:16:21,439 --> 00:16:23,533 over his likely Republican opponent, 269 00:16:23,649 --> 00:16:27,244 Senator Barry F. Goldwater of Arizona, 270 00:16:27,403 --> 00:16:31,033 a blunt, uncompromising critic of what he charged 271 00:16:31,157 --> 00:16:33,205 was the administration's weakness 272 00:16:33,326 --> 00:16:35,920 in the face of communist aggression. 273 00:16:36,037 --> 00:16:38,237 Why does he put off facing the question 274 00:16:38,289 --> 00:16:41,259 of what to do about Vietnam? 275 00:16:41,417 --> 00:16:44,591 Does he hope that he can wait until after the election 276 00:16:44,712 --> 00:16:47,181 to confront the American public with the... 277 00:16:47,298 --> 00:16:50,677 Here were these communists who were overrunning Southeast Asia 278 00:16:50,801 --> 00:16:53,930 and Johnson's doing nothing about it. 279 00:16:54,096 --> 00:16:55,222 My opponent has not told you 280 00:16:55,348 --> 00:16:56,868 what he plans to do about the Cold War. 281 00:16:56,933 --> 00:17:00,107 I rode around the back of a flatbed truck in Perkasie 282 00:17:00,269 --> 00:17:01,987 with a bunch of my classmates 283 00:17:02,104 --> 00:17:04,357 singing Barry Goldwater campaign songs 284 00:17:04,482 --> 00:17:07,702 because Lyndon Johnson was not tough enough 285 00:17:07,818 --> 00:17:09,445 on those communists. 286 00:17:11,822 --> 00:17:14,917 Johnson felt he did not yet have the political capital 287 00:17:15,034 --> 00:17:19,631 to take further action in Vietnam, but he asked his aide, 288 00:17:19,747 --> 00:17:23,468 William Bundy, to draft a congressional resolution 289 00:17:23,584 --> 00:17:26,588 authorizing him to use force if needed 290 00:17:26,712 --> 00:17:29,966 to be sent to Capitol Hill when the time was right. 291 00:17:33,803 --> 00:17:38,149 On July 30, 1964, South Vietnamese ships 292 00:17:38,266 --> 00:17:40,860 under the direction of the U.S. military 293 00:17:40,977 --> 00:17:46,199 shelled two North Vietnamese islands in the Gulf of Tonkin. 294 00:17:46,315 --> 00:17:51,196 The tiny North Vietnamese Navy was put on high alert. 295 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,290 What followed was one of the most controversial 296 00:17:54,407 --> 00:17:57,786 and consequential events in American history. 297 00:17:57,910 --> 00:18:00,663 On the afternoon of August 2, 298 00:18:00,788 --> 00:18:04,167 the destroyer U.S.S. Maddox was moving slowly 299 00:18:04,333 --> 00:18:06,586 through international waters in the gulf 300 00:18:06,711 --> 00:18:10,432 on an intelligence-gathering mission in support 301 00:18:10,548 --> 00:18:14,394 of further South Vietnamese action against the North. 302 00:18:14,510 --> 00:18:18,811 The commander of a North Vietnamese torpedo-boat squadron 303 00:18:18,931 --> 00:18:21,525 moved to attack the Maddox. 304 00:18:21,642 --> 00:18:26,489 The Americans opened fire and missed. 305 00:18:26,606 --> 00:18:30,452 North Vietnamese torpedoes also missed. 306 00:18:30,568 --> 00:18:34,323 But carrier-based U.S. planes damaged 307 00:18:34,447 --> 00:18:36,370 two of the North Vietnamese boats 308 00:18:36,532 --> 00:18:39,502 and left a third dead in the water. 309 00:18:39,619 --> 00:18:43,999 Ho Chi Minh was shocked to hear of his navy's attack 310 00:18:44,123 --> 00:18:47,548 and demanded to know who had ordered it. 311 00:18:47,710 --> 00:18:50,304 The officer on duty was officially reprimanded 312 00:18:50,421 --> 00:18:52,344 for impulsiveness. 313 00:18:52,465 --> 00:18:57,062 No one may ever know who gave the order to attack. 314 00:18:57,178 --> 00:19:01,058 To this day, even the Vietnamese cannot agree. 315 00:19:01,182 --> 00:19:04,903 But some believe it was Le Duan. 316 00:19:50,272 --> 00:19:51,392 Back in Washington, 317 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,410 the Joint Chiefs urged immediate retaliation 318 00:19:54,527 --> 00:19:56,279 against North Vietnam. 319 00:19:56,404 --> 00:19:59,123 The president refused. 320 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,709 Instead, the White House issued a warning 321 00:20:01,826 --> 00:20:04,796 about the "grave consequences" that would follow 322 00:20:04,954 --> 00:20:08,629 what it called "any further unprovoked“ attacks- 323 00:20:08,749 --> 00:20:12,799 even though Johnson knew the attack had been provoked 324 00:20:12,962 --> 00:20:17,559 by the South Vietnamese raids on North Vietnam's islands. 325 00:20:17,675 --> 00:20:21,475 Both sides were playing a dangerous game. 326 00:20:21,595 --> 00:20:26,476 On August 4, American radio operators mistranslated 327 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,227 North Vietnamese radio traffic 328 00:20:28,352 --> 00:20:34,155 and concluded a new military operation was imminent. 329 00:20:34,275 --> 00:20:36,323 Actually, Hanoi had simply called upon 330 00:20:36,444 --> 00:20:40,494 torpedo boat commanders to be ready for a new raid 331 00:20:40,614 --> 00:20:42,958 by the South Vietnamese. 332 00:20:43,075 --> 00:20:47,706 The Maddox and another destroyer, the Turner Joy, 333 00:20:47,830 --> 00:20:50,834 braced for a fresh attack. 334 00:20:50,958 --> 00:20:52,551 So did the White House. 335 00:20:52,668 --> 00:20:54,261 Go ahead, Mac. 336 00:20:54,378 --> 00:20:56,847 I-I personally would recommend to you, 337 00:20:56,964 --> 00:20:58,807 after a second attack on our ships, 338 00:20:58,924 --> 00:21:02,645 that we do retaliate against the coast of North Vietnam 339 00:21:02,762 --> 00:21:04,184 some way or other... 340 00:21:04,346 --> 00:21:07,850 What I was thinking about when I was eating breakfast: 341 00:21:07,975 --> 00:21:10,694 when they move on us and they shoot at us, 342 00:21:10,853 --> 00:21:12,497 I think we not only ought to shoot at them, 343 00:21:12,521 --> 00:21:14,774 but almost simultaneously pull one of these things 344 00:21:14,899 --> 00:21:16,960 that you've been doing on one of their bridges or something. 345 00:21:16,984 --> 00:21:18,031 Exactly. 346 00:21:18,194 --> 00:21:19,821 I quite agree with you, Mr. President. 347 00:21:19,945 --> 00:21:21,590 But I wish we could have something 348 00:21:21,614 --> 00:21:23,412 that we've already picked out, 349 00:21:23,532 --> 00:21:27,002 and just hit about three of them damn quick, right after. 350 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,419 No second attack ever happened, 351 00:21:30,539 --> 00:21:34,669 but at the time, anxious American sonar operators 352 00:21:34,794 --> 00:21:39,516 aboard the Maddox and Turner Joy convinced themselves one had. 353 00:21:39,632 --> 00:21:44,308 The attack was probable but not certain, Johnson was told, 354 00:21:44,428 --> 00:21:47,398 and since it had probably occurred, 355 00:21:47,556 --> 00:21:51,606 the president decided it should not go unanswered. 356 00:21:54,021 --> 00:21:57,366 Aggression by terror against the peaceful villagers 357 00:21:57,483 --> 00:22:01,909 of South Vietnam has now been joined by open aggression 358 00:22:02,029 --> 00:22:06,125 on the high seas against the United States of America. 359 00:22:06,242 --> 00:22:09,997 Yet our response, for the present, 360 00:22:10,120 --> 00:22:12,589 will be limited and fitting. 361 00:22:12,706 --> 00:22:18,088 We Americans know, although others appear to forget, 362 00:22:18,212 --> 00:22:20,806 the risk of spreading conflict. 363 00:22:20,923 --> 00:22:26,430 We still seek no wider war. 364 00:22:26,554 --> 00:22:29,899 If that came to be where we would be called upon 365 00:22:30,015 --> 00:22:32,859 to carry out our responsibilities, 366 00:22:32,977 --> 00:22:35,571 and having been well trained for this, 367 00:22:35,688 --> 00:22:37,235 I never really gave it much thought. 368 00:22:37,356 --> 00:22:39,609 It was part of my duty. 369 00:22:39,733 --> 00:22:43,158 Lieutenant Everett Alvarez from Salinas, California, 370 00:22:43,279 --> 00:22:46,909 was aboard the U.S.S. carrier Constellation. 371 00:22:47,032 --> 00:22:50,582 His squadron of Skyhawk A-4 planes 372 00:22:50,703 --> 00:22:53,297 was ordered to attack torpedo boat installations 373 00:22:53,414 --> 00:22:57,920 and oil facilities near the port of Hon Gai. 374 00:22:58,043 --> 00:23:02,719 For the first time, American pilots were going to drop bombs 375 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,842 on North Vietnam. 376 00:23:06,135 --> 00:23:07,445 When we approached the target 377 00:23:07,469 --> 00:23:09,096 coming down from altitude, 378 00:23:09,221 --> 00:23:12,316 it was obvious that they could pick us up on their radar. 379 00:23:12,433 --> 00:23:14,856 I remember my knees shaking. 380 00:23:14,977 --> 00:23:17,856 And I was saying, "Holy smokes, I'm going into war." 381 00:23:19,815 --> 00:23:21,817 "This is war." 382 00:23:22,985 --> 00:23:24,578 I was a bit scared. 383 00:23:24,695 --> 00:23:29,417 Once we went in and they started firing at us, 384 00:23:29,533 --> 00:23:31,831 the fear went away. 385 00:23:31,952 --> 00:23:36,583 Everything became smooth, deathly quiet in the cockpit. 386 00:23:36,707 --> 00:23:39,426 It was sort of like a symphony 387 00:23:39,543 --> 00:23:45,016 in the sense that my plane was just like a ballet in the sky, 388 00:23:45,132 --> 00:23:48,602 and I was just performing what I was doing. 389 00:23:50,846 --> 00:23:51,847 And then I got hit. 390 00:23:51,972 --> 00:23:53,019 Mayday, Mayday. 391 00:23:54,433 --> 00:23:58,108 Coastal militiamen captured Alvarez 392 00:23:58,228 --> 00:24:00,651 and turned him over to the North Vietnamese military. 393 00:24:00,773 --> 00:24:06,405 One fella was yelling at me in Vietnamese and saying something. 394 00:24:06,528 --> 00:24:09,498 I started talking to him in Spanish. 395 00:24:09,615 --> 00:24:11,458 Don't ask me why. 396 00:24:11,575 --> 00:24:14,579 It seemed like a good idea at the time. 397 00:24:16,538 --> 00:24:21,669 After when they discovered U.S.A. on my ID card 398 00:24:21,794 --> 00:24:26,721 and then they started speaking to me in English. 399 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,890 Alvarez assumed he would be treated as a prisoner of war. 400 00:24:31,053 --> 00:24:33,226 I was sticking to the code of conduct, 401 00:24:33,389 --> 00:24:35,608 which is giving them name, rank, service number, 402 00:24:35,724 --> 00:24:36,941 and date of birth. 403 00:24:38,519 --> 00:24:42,490 But they quickly reminded me that there was no state of war, 404 00:24:42,606 --> 00:24:45,200 no declaration of war. 405 00:24:45,317 --> 00:24:49,038 So I could not be considered a prisoner of war. 406 00:24:50,572 --> 00:24:51,949 I recall thinking about it, 407 00:24:52,074 --> 00:24:53,667 and I says, "You know what? 408 00:24:53,784 --> 00:24:55,206 They're right." 409 00:24:55,327 --> 00:24:58,581 Everett Alvarez was the first American airman 410 00:24:58,706 --> 00:25:02,006 to be shot out of the sky over North Vietnam 411 00:25:02,126 --> 00:25:04,800 and the first to be imprisoned there. 412 00:25:07,381 --> 00:25:09,634 Now, the president sent up to Capitol Hill 413 00:25:09,758 --> 00:25:13,388 the resolution he had asked his aide William Bundy to draft 414 00:25:13,512 --> 00:25:15,935 two months earlier. 415 00:25:16,056 --> 00:25:19,856 Johnson is sort of prepositioned to move anyway, 416 00:25:19,977 --> 00:25:23,732 and it gives him really the incident that he needs 417 00:25:23,856 --> 00:25:26,405 to go to Congress and ask for a resolution 418 00:25:26,525 --> 00:25:28,527 that will allow him to deal with what he sees 419 00:25:28,652 --> 00:25:30,279 as aggression in Vietnam. 420 00:25:30,446 --> 00:25:32,744 And what he gets is the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, 421 00:25:32,865 --> 00:25:36,460 which is, what he says, like "Grandma's nightshirt"... 422 00:25:36,618 --> 00:25:37,995 it covers everything. 423 00:25:38,120 --> 00:25:42,466 I think what Johnson is looking for is the opportunity, 424 00:25:42,624 --> 00:25:46,470 the right time to send a message to North Vietnam 425 00:25:46,587 --> 00:25:50,512 that we're serious about supporting South Vietnam. 426 00:25:50,632 --> 00:25:52,726 That message is sent, 427 00:25:52,843 --> 00:25:54,561 I think we misread the enemy 428 00:25:54,678 --> 00:25:56,931 because they're just as serious as we are. 429 00:25:58,348 --> 00:26:01,352 On August 7, 1964, 430 00:26:01,477 --> 00:26:05,152 by a vote of 88-2, the Senate passed 431 00:26:05,272 --> 00:26:09,322 what came to be called the Tonkin Gulf Resolution. 432 00:26:09,443 --> 00:26:13,664 In the House, not a single congressman opposed it. 433 00:26:13,822 --> 00:26:17,497 Senator Goldwater could no longer plausibly claim 434 00:26:17,659 --> 00:26:19,661 Johnson was failing to fight back 435 00:26:19,828 --> 00:26:23,503 against North Vietnam, while those voters concerned 436 00:26:23,665 --> 00:26:25,667 that the United States was in danger 437 00:26:25,793 --> 00:26:28,091 of becoming too deeply involved 438 00:26:28,212 --> 00:26:32,092 admired the president's measured response. 439 00:26:32,216 --> 00:26:35,937 Support for Johnson's handling of the war jumped overnight 440 00:26:36,053 --> 00:26:39,523 from 42% to 72%. 441 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,610 The American public believed their president. 442 00:26:43,852 --> 00:26:47,356 Le Duan and his comrades in Hanoi did not. 443 00:26:47,481 --> 00:26:50,075 They had little faith in the president's claim 444 00:26:50,192 --> 00:26:52,194 that he sought no wider war. 445 00:26:52,361 --> 00:26:55,205 They resolved to step up their efforts 446 00:26:55,364 --> 00:26:56,832 to win the struggle in the South 447 00:26:56,949 --> 00:26:59,953 before the United States escalated its presence 448 00:27:00,077 --> 00:27:02,330 by sending in combat troops. 449 00:27:03,622 --> 00:27:05,590 For the first time, 450 00:27:05,707 --> 00:27:08,301 Hanoi began sending North Vietnamese regulars 451 00:27:08,418 --> 00:27:11,046 into the South, down the network of paths 452 00:27:11,171 --> 00:27:14,345 they had hacked out of the Laotian jungle... 453 00:27:14,466 --> 00:27:16,434 the Ho Chi Minh Trail. 454 00:27:17,719 --> 00:27:19,471 This is Bien Hoa Air Base, 455 00:27:19,596 --> 00:27:21,098 the biggest in South Vietnam, 456 00:27:21,223 --> 00:27:24,898 hours after being hit by a communist mortar barrage. 457 00:27:25,018 --> 00:27:28,067 On November 1, Viet Cong guerrillas shelled 458 00:27:28,188 --> 00:27:32,238 the American airbase at Bien Hoa near Saigon. 459 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,612 Five Americans died. 460 00:27:34,736 --> 00:27:36,738 Thirty were wounded. 461 00:27:36,905 --> 00:27:41,035 Five B-57 bombers were destroyed on the ground 462 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,037 and 15 more were damaged. 463 00:27:43,162 --> 00:27:44,914 Mr. Ambassador, 464 00:27:45,038 --> 00:27:47,086 do you think this shows any new capability 465 00:27:47,207 --> 00:27:49,209 that they've got, the Viet Cong? 466 00:27:49,334 --> 00:27:51,632 Uh, I would simply say they've never done this before. 467 00:27:54,423 --> 00:27:56,801 The Joint Chiefs advised the president to mount 468 00:27:56,925 --> 00:28:01,351 an immediate all-out air attack on 94 targets in the North 469 00:28:01,471 --> 00:28:04,691 and to send in regular Army and Marine units... 470 00:28:04,808 --> 00:28:08,779 not more advisors... to South Vietnam as well. 471 00:28:08,896 --> 00:28:10,273 He would not do it. 472 00:28:10,397 --> 00:28:12,866 The election was just two days away. 473 00:28:15,235 --> 00:28:19,331 Lyndon Baines Johnson won the presidency in his own right, 474 00:28:19,448 --> 00:28:21,450 and he won it by a landslide. 475 00:28:23,327 --> 00:28:25,671 Within a month, the president would approve 476 00:28:25,787 --> 00:28:28,381 what was called a "graduated response"... 477 00:28:28,498 --> 00:28:32,378 limited air attacks on the Ho Chi Minh Trail in Laos 478 00:28:32,502 --> 00:28:35,472 and "tit for tat" retaliatory raids 479 00:28:35,589 --> 00:28:38,468 on North Vietnamese targets. 480 00:28:38,592 --> 00:28:42,472 But he refused to undertake sustained bombing of the North 481 00:28:42,596 --> 00:28:46,646 until the South Vietnamese got their own house in order. 482 00:28:48,477 --> 00:28:53,608 In private, Johnson doubted that airpower alone would ever work 483 00:28:53,732 --> 00:28:56,155 and believed that he would eventually have to send in 484 00:28:56,318 --> 00:28:57,535 ground troops, 485 00:28:57,653 --> 00:29:01,203 though he was not yet willing publicly to say so. 486 00:29:07,204 --> 00:29:10,959 In the fall of '64, Denton was 17 487 00:29:11,083 --> 00:29:15,338 and he was determined to go into the service. 488 00:29:15,462 --> 00:29:19,308 Mogie Crocker had been restless since the summer. 489 00:29:19,424 --> 00:29:22,473 After the Gulf of Tonkin incident, he had confided 490 00:29:22,594 --> 00:29:25,097 to his sister that he wanted to join the Navy, 491 00:29:25,222 --> 00:29:28,692 but he knew his parents would not sign the consent form 492 00:29:28,850 --> 00:29:33,321 that would have allowed a 17-year-old to enlist. 493 00:29:33,438 --> 00:29:37,159 He was talking about wanting to go into the service 494 00:29:37,276 --> 00:29:39,699 and that his attempts to go underage had failed. 495 00:29:39,820 --> 00:29:43,199 And that he wanted my parents to support him in that. 496 00:29:43,365 --> 00:29:45,709 His parents tried to persuade him 497 00:29:45,867 --> 00:29:47,869 that he could be more useful to his country 498 00:29:48,036 --> 00:29:52,542 with a college education than as just another private. 499 00:29:52,708 --> 00:29:55,427 Mogie was adamant. 500 00:29:55,544 --> 00:29:59,094 Monday morning he left for school. 501 00:29:59,214 --> 00:30:01,888 And I watched him leave. 502 00:30:02,009 --> 00:30:03,886 But that night he didn't come in for supper 503 00:30:04,052 --> 00:30:05,099 and he hadn't called. 504 00:30:05,220 --> 00:30:08,565 The day that my brother ran away has to be 505 00:30:08,724 --> 00:30:12,979 one of the most bizarre experiences in my life. 506 00:30:13,103 --> 00:30:16,152 I eventually happened to look in my piggy bank 507 00:30:16,273 --> 00:30:19,777 and he had taken the money I had and left a note for me. 508 00:30:19,901 --> 00:30:22,575 He had promised he would pay me back. 509 00:30:22,696 --> 00:30:25,415 He was gone about four months 510 00:30:25,532 --> 00:30:28,786 and said that he would not come home 511 00:30:28,910 --> 00:30:31,333 unless we agreed to sign for him. 512 00:30:31,455 --> 00:30:35,710 And he wouldn't be 18 until June. 513 00:30:35,834 --> 00:30:39,179 But we did agree and he did come home. 514 00:30:39,296 --> 00:30:43,847 My husband felt it was an honor-bound agreement. 515 00:30:43,967 --> 00:30:46,937 I was hoping that I could change his mind. 516 00:30:51,892 --> 00:30:55,647 To my mind, the Marine Corps represented the very best. 517 00:30:55,771 --> 00:30:57,114 And it does. 518 00:30:57,272 --> 00:30:59,741 They are the best. 519 00:30:59,858 --> 00:31:02,236 And I wanted to be part of the best. 520 00:31:02,361 --> 00:31:03,988 I was competitive. 521 00:31:04,112 --> 00:31:05,159 I was pugnacious. 522 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,282 But I wanted to get in the Marine Corps 523 00:31:07,449 --> 00:31:09,998 and go to the first war I could find. 524 00:31:10,118 --> 00:31:13,372 Lieutenant Philip Brady, from Port Washington, New York, 525 00:31:13,497 --> 00:31:16,171 arrived in Saigon just a few days 526 00:31:16,291 --> 00:31:18,510 after Lyndon Johnson's election, 527 00:31:18,627 --> 00:31:21,255 one of the new advisors sent to help shore up 528 00:31:21,380 --> 00:31:24,179 the South Vietnamese military. 529 00:31:24,299 --> 00:31:28,554 We must ensure that women and children are not injured. 530 00:31:28,678 --> 00:31:31,978 General Westmoreland himself greeted the newcomers. 531 00:31:32,099 --> 00:31:35,945 He was an impressive-looking man with an impressive record. 532 00:31:36,061 --> 00:31:40,237 Many of the men he'd led in Tunisia, Sicily, and Normandy 533 00:31:40,357 --> 00:31:44,032 during World War II called him Superman. 534 00:31:44,152 --> 00:31:46,325 He'd fought with distinction in Korea, 535 00:31:46,446 --> 00:31:49,165 commanded the 101st Airborne, 536 00:31:49,282 --> 00:31:52,001 served as superintendent of West Point. 537 00:31:52,119 --> 00:31:53,416 TIME magazine called him 538 00:31:53,537 --> 00:31:57,917 "the sinewy personification of the American fighting man." 539 00:31:58,041 --> 00:31:59,167 But at the same time, 540 00:31:59,292 --> 00:32:01,294 win the hearts and the minds of the people. 541 00:32:01,420 --> 00:32:04,048 General Westmoreland told us that we were down 542 00:32:04,172 --> 00:32:06,846 on the five-yard line and we just needed a few more 543 00:32:06,967 --> 00:32:10,847 to go get the touchdown. 544 00:32:10,971 --> 00:32:13,941 Then I went out and then I got on the ground. 545 00:32:14,057 --> 00:32:16,651 And then I found out, "Don't you realize? 546 00:32:16,768 --> 00:32:19,021 We're losing this war." 547 00:32:19,187 --> 00:32:23,693 Lieutenant Brady was assigned to assist Captain Frank Eller, 548 00:32:23,859 --> 00:32:26,078 senior advisor to the 4th Battalion 549 00:32:26,194 --> 00:32:29,368 of the Vietnamese Marine Corps, an elite unit 550 00:32:29,531 --> 00:32:33,707 whose members called themselves the "Killer Sharks." 551 00:32:33,869 --> 00:32:37,590 You were told that you were going over there to guide, 552 00:32:37,706 --> 00:32:41,836 educate, and elevate essentially these "little fellas" 553 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,962 on how to fight a war 554 00:32:44,087 --> 00:32:47,136 when, in fact, they knew exactly how to fight the war. 555 00:32:47,257 --> 00:32:49,385 You were just an appendage. 556 00:32:49,509 --> 00:32:53,059 You were there simply to guide assets that they didn't have: 557 00:32:53,221 --> 00:32:57,522 American artillery, American air strikes. 558 00:32:57,642 --> 00:33:00,236 Brady did his best to get to know 559 00:33:00,353 --> 00:33:02,526 the South Vietnamese marines in his unit. 560 00:33:29,758 --> 00:33:33,513 Lieutenant Tran Ngoc Toan, the son of a trucker, 561 00:33:33,637 --> 00:33:35,935 had escaped life with a hostile stepmother 562 00:33:36,097 --> 00:33:40,603 by entering the South Vietnamese Military Academy at Dalat. 563 00:33:40,769 --> 00:33:45,115 He'd been fighting the Viet Cong for more than two years. 564 00:33:45,273 --> 00:33:46,667 Toan was one of the junior officers. 565 00:33:46,691 --> 00:33:48,034 I think he was a... 566 00:33:48,151 --> 00:33:49,511 I think he was a company commander. 567 00:33:49,611 --> 00:33:51,784 I knew him, I liked him. 568 00:33:51,905 --> 00:33:54,954 He was a Dalat graduate, which is like their West Point. 569 00:33:55,116 --> 00:33:56,868 Very dedicated. 570 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:11,471 Brady, Toan, and the 4th South Vietnamese Marine Battalion 571 00:34:11,633 --> 00:34:14,728 were stationed near the Bien Hoa Airbase in reserve, 572 00:34:14,844 --> 00:34:18,690 waiting to be called into action. 573 00:34:18,807 --> 00:34:20,605 There were new rumors now, 574 00:34:20,725 --> 00:34:25,231 of larger enemy units moving through the countryside. 575 00:34:25,355 --> 00:34:28,279 Le Duan's plan to win a quick and decisive victory 576 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,118 was underway. 577 00:35:28,543 --> 00:35:31,012 Nguyen Van Tong was a political officer 578 00:35:31,129 --> 00:35:34,178 in the newly created Viet Cong 9th Division, 579 00:35:34,299 --> 00:35:38,224 one of perhaps 2,000 Viet Cong and North Vietnamese troops 580 00:35:38,386 --> 00:35:43,108 who had for weeks been quietly filtering into Phuoc Tuy, 581 00:35:43,224 --> 00:35:45,226 a supposedly "pacified" province 582 00:35:45,352 --> 00:35:48,697 less than 40 miles southeast of Saigon. 583 00:36:09,834 --> 00:36:13,054 The target for Tong and his comrades 584 00:36:13,171 --> 00:36:15,890 was the strategic hamlet of Binh Gia, 585 00:36:16,007 --> 00:36:20,387 home to some 6,000 Catholic anticommunist refugees. 586 00:36:22,055 --> 00:36:24,729 Their plan was to seize the hamlet 587 00:36:24,849 --> 00:36:28,570 and then annihilate the forces Saigon was sure to send 588 00:36:28,687 --> 00:36:30,155 to retake it. 589 00:36:30,271 --> 00:36:32,615 To ensure success, 590 00:36:32,774 --> 00:36:36,119 tons of heavy weapons were smuggled onto the coast 591 00:36:36,277 --> 00:36:38,120 under cover of darkness... 592 00:36:38,238 --> 00:36:41,287 mortars, machine guns, recoilless rifles 593 00:36:41,449 --> 00:36:44,293 capable of blasting tanks. 594 00:36:44,411 --> 00:36:46,960 The communists had never attempted 595 00:36:47,122 --> 00:36:49,966 anything on this scale before. 596 00:36:50,083 --> 00:36:53,257 Before dawn on December 28, 597 00:36:53,378 --> 00:36:57,474 Viet Cong advance units easily overwhelmed the village militia 598 00:36:57,590 --> 00:36:59,308 and occupied Binh Gia. 599 00:37:02,220 --> 00:37:05,144 When two crack South Vietnamese Ranger companies 600 00:37:05,306 --> 00:37:07,400 were helicoptered in the next day, 601 00:37:07,517 --> 00:37:11,488 they were ambushed and shot to pieces. 602 00:37:11,604 --> 00:37:13,857 On the morning of the 30th, 603 00:37:13,982 --> 00:37:17,202 Philip Brady, his friend Tran Ngoc Toan, 604 00:37:17,318 --> 00:37:21,164 and the 4th Marine Battalion were flown in to relieve 605 00:37:21,281 --> 00:37:23,830 and reinforce the Rangers. 606 00:37:23,950 --> 00:37:27,375 The enemy withdrew east of the village. 607 00:37:57,066 --> 00:38:01,446 All of a sudden you could see the tracers come out 608 00:38:01,571 --> 00:38:05,041 of the plantation, hit the helicopter, it crashed. 609 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,170 We were ordered to go down and retrieve the remains 610 00:38:08,286 --> 00:38:10,084 the following morning. 611 00:38:44,405 --> 00:38:46,908 The lead company got to the remains 612 00:38:47,033 --> 00:38:50,833 and then was pounced on and mauled badly. 613 00:38:55,208 --> 00:38:58,587 Twelve South Vietnamese Marines from Toan's unit were killed 614 00:38:58,711 --> 00:39:01,089 getting to the downed helicopter. 615 00:39:01,256 --> 00:39:02,974 Their comrades wrapped them in ponchos 616 00:39:03,091 --> 00:39:07,267 and laid them out next to the dead Americans. 617 00:39:07,428 --> 00:39:10,147 An American chopper dropped into the clearing. 618 00:39:10,265 --> 00:39:12,768 The American crew jumped out under fire, 619 00:39:12,934 --> 00:39:14,936 picked up the four Americans, 620 00:39:15,103 --> 00:39:18,733 climbed back into their chopper, and took off again. 621 00:39:29,868 --> 00:39:35,045 For three hours, Toan and his men stayed with their own dead 622 00:39:35,164 --> 00:39:39,294 waiting for a helicopter to carry them off the battlefield. 623 00:39:41,129 --> 00:39:44,303 Meanwhile, I am getting a little bit antsy 624 00:39:44,465 --> 00:39:46,763 because, first of all, we're losing light. 625 00:39:46,885 --> 00:39:50,480 Second of all, we are now outside of artillery range. 626 00:39:50,638 --> 00:39:52,936 We've got to get out of there. 627 00:40:03,401 --> 00:40:06,450 I went to the Major Nho, his name was, and I said, 628 00:40:06,571 --> 00:40:09,666 "Major, we have to get out of here now." 629 00:40:09,782 --> 00:40:14,162 And Nho said, "Don't you forget I am a major, 630 00:40:14,287 --> 00:40:15,327 and you are a lieutenant," 631 00:40:15,371 --> 00:40:18,500 turned on his heel and walked away. 632 00:40:18,625 --> 00:40:22,926 Ten minutes later all hell broke loose. 633 00:40:43,149 --> 00:40:46,028 The shelling eventually died down. 634 00:40:46,194 --> 00:40:48,538 But then bugles blew, 635 00:40:48,696 --> 00:40:51,165 and wave after wave of enemy troops 636 00:40:51,282 --> 00:40:53,410 advanced toward the badly outnumbered men. 637 00:40:56,788 --> 00:41:00,213 It was as if you turned a soundtrack of shooting... 638 00:41:03,586 --> 00:41:05,588 And just went. 639 00:41:05,713 --> 00:41:06,760 Just like that. 640 00:41:06,881 --> 00:41:08,554 All of a sudden it came out of nowhere. 641 00:41:12,261 --> 00:41:15,481 We used what little air strikes we had left with helicopters, 642 00:41:15,598 --> 00:41:19,819 calling in the strikes on our position to slow it down. 643 00:41:19,936 --> 00:41:22,985 There was no way. 644 00:42:00,476 --> 00:42:03,480 What we did was we tried to get out. 645 00:42:03,604 --> 00:42:06,528 Twenty-six of us broke through. 646 00:42:06,649 --> 00:42:09,402 Eleven ultimately made it. 647 00:42:10,570 --> 00:42:11,742 All that night, 648 00:42:11,863 --> 00:42:13,865 the Viet Cong moved among the trees, 649 00:42:13,990 --> 00:42:15,742 carrying away their wounded 650 00:42:15,867 --> 00:42:18,746 and shooting any South Vietnamese troops 651 00:42:18,870 --> 00:42:20,998 they found alive. 652 00:42:47,690 --> 00:42:49,692 Cradling his rifle in his arms, 653 00:42:49,817 --> 00:42:53,447 Toan began trying to crawl toward Binh Gia. 654 00:42:53,571 --> 00:42:56,745 He was not found for three days. 655 00:43:29,774 --> 00:43:34,280 When it was all over, five Americans had died at Binh Gia. 656 00:43:34,403 --> 00:43:39,284 Thirty-two Viet Cong bodies had been left on the battlefield. 657 00:43:39,408 --> 00:43:42,912 200 South Vietnamese were killed; 658 00:43:43,037 --> 00:43:47,634 200 more were wounded. 659 00:44:02,557 --> 00:44:05,231 What it really said was 660 00:44:05,351 --> 00:44:09,606 they were capable of marshaling this kind of force. 661 00:44:09,730 --> 00:44:11,890 The Vietnamese officers I talked to in the Marine Corps 662 00:44:11,941 --> 00:44:14,535 figured they had six months before the end. 663 00:44:14,652 --> 00:44:18,077 The big question after Binh Gia, 664 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,492 an American officer at headquarters said, 665 00:44:20,616 --> 00:44:23,586 is how a thousand or more enemy troops 666 00:44:23,703 --> 00:44:27,082 "could wander around the countryside so close to Saigon 667 00:44:27,248 --> 00:44:29,091 "without being discovered. 668 00:44:29,250 --> 00:44:34,051 That tells you something about this war." 669 00:44:34,172 --> 00:44:36,550 Hanoi was exultant. 670 00:44:36,674 --> 00:44:39,769 Ho Chi Minh called it "a little Dien Bien Phu." 671 00:44:39,886 --> 00:44:44,232 Le Duan was convinced his strategy was working. 672 00:44:44,348 --> 00:44:47,648 "The liberation war of South Vietnam has progressed 673 00:44:47,768 --> 00:44:50,271 by leaps and bounds," he said. 674 00:44:50,396 --> 00:44:53,775 "After the battle of Ap Bac two years ago, 675 00:44:53,941 --> 00:44:57,741 "the enemy knew it would be difficult to defeat us. 676 00:44:57,862 --> 00:45:00,786 "After Binh Gia, the enemy realizes 677 00:45:00,907 --> 00:45:05,879 that he is in the process of being defeated by us." 678 00:45:20,468 --> 00:45:21,778 I, Lyndon Baines Johnson, 679 00:45:21,802 --> 00:45:23,725 do solemnly swear... 680 00:45:23,846 --> 00:45:27,100 Twenty-six days after the Binh Gia battle ended 681 00:45:27,225 --> 00:45:30,445 and just a week after President Johnson's inauguration, 682 00:45:30,561 --> 00:45:33,815 McGeorge Bundy handed the president a memorandum. 683 00:45:33,940 --> 00:45:35,988 I will to the best of my ability. 684 00:45:36,150 --> 00:45:39,825 The current strategy was clearly not working, it said. 685 00:45:39,987 --> 00:45:43,332 The Viet Cong were on the move and on the rise, 686 00:45:43,491 --> 00:45:46,870 supplied and now steadily reinforced 687 00:45:46,994 --> 00:45:49,713 with soldiers from North Vietnam. 688 00:45:49,830 --> 00:45:54,461 If an independent South Vietnam was to survive, 689 00:45:54,585 --> 00:45:57,714 the United States needed to act fast. 690 00:45:57,838 --> 00:46:01,684 The administration faced two choices, Bundy said. 691 00:46:01,801 --> 00:46:04,224 It could go along as it had been going 692 00:46:04,345 --> 00:46:08,270 and try to negotiate some kind of face-saving settlement. 693 00:46:08,391 --> 00:46:13,192 Or they could use still more American military power 694 00:46:13,354 --> 00:46:16,858 to force the North to abandon its goal of uniting the country. 695 00:46:17,024 --> 00:46:21,154 Bundy and McNamara favored that option. 696 00:46:21,279 --> 00:46:24,123 Unless the president chose it, they said, 697 00:46:24,240 --> 00:46:26,117 South Vietnam would fall. 698 00:46:26,242 --> 00:46:29,872 "I don't think anything," Johnson told McNamara, 699 00:46:30,037 --> 00:46:32,790 "is going to be as bad as losing." 700 00:46:37,712 --> 00:46:40,181 Then, a little over a week later, 701 00:46:40,298 --> 00:46:43,802 guerrillas struck an American helicopter base at Pleiku 702 00:46:43,926 --> 00:46:45,678 in the Central Highlands, 703 00:46:45,803 --> 00:46:50,479 killing eight American advisors and wounding over 100 more. 704 00:46:50,599 --> 00:46:52,522 Approximately 24 hours ago, 705 00:46:52,643 --> 00:46:55,021 the first attack in the Pleiku area... 706 00:46:55,146 --> 00:46:57,740 Johnson immediately approved an air strike 707 00:46:57,857 --> 00:47:00,576 on a North Vietnamese army barracks. 708 00:47:01,819 --> 00:47:05,198 On February 10, 1965, 709 00:47:05,323 --> 00:47:08,452 the Viet Cong blew up a hotel in Qui Nhon, 710 00:47:08,576 --> 00:47:14,925 killing 23 Americans and pinning 21 more beneath the rubble. 711 00:47:15,082 --> 00:47:18,427 Johnson ordered another air strike. 712 00:47:18,586 --> 00:47:21,931 Anxiety about what seemed to be happening 713 00:47:22,089 --> 00:47:24,558 spread around the world. 714 00:47:24,675 --> 00:47:27,474 France, which had spent nearly a century in Vietnam, 715 00:47:27,595 --> 00:47:31,850 now called for an end to all foreign involvement there. 716 00:47:31,974 --> 00:47:35,478 The British prime minister urged restraint. 717 00:47:35,603 --> 00:47:39,233 Many leaders of the president's own party agreed, 718 00:47:39,357 --> 00:47:41,826 though not in public. 719 00:47:41,942 --> 00:47:43,990 In a private memorandum, 720 00:47:44,111 --> 00:47:46,705 Johnson's own vice president, Hubert Humphrey, 721 00:47:46,822 --> 00:47:50,122 warned him that widening the war would undercut 722 00:47:50,242 --> 00:47:54,839 the Great Society, damage America's image overseas, 723 00:47:54,955 --> 00:47:59,381 and end any hope of improving relations with the Soviet Union. 724 00:48:00,753 --> 00:48:03,006 Johnson never responded. 725 00:48:03,130 --> 00:48:06,134 Instead, on March 2, 1965, 726 00:48:06,300 --> 00:48:09,804 the United States began a systematic bombardment 727 00:48:09,929 --> 00:48:11,806 of targets in North Vietnam, 728 00:48:11,931 --> 00:48:15,811 code-named Operation Rolling Thunder. 729 00:48:17,853 --> 00:48:20,902 It was meant to be a "mounting crescendo" of air raids, 730 00:48:21,023 --> 00:48:22,491 Ambassador Taylor wrote, 731 00:48:22,650 --> 00:48:25,654 intended to bolster morale in the South 732 00:48:25,820 --> 00:48:30,496 and destroy morale in the North. 733 00:48:30,616 --> 00:48:33,540 The thesis behind Rolling Thunder, 734 00:48:33,661 --> 00:48:39,259 as I understood it, was that as we ratcheted up the tempo 735 00:48:39,375 --> 00:48:43,926 and the volume of this effort against the North Vietnamese, 736 00:48:44,046 --> 00:48:46,970 sooner or later they would cry uncle. 737 00:48:49,677 --> 00:48:52,351 And there'd be a pause, 738 00:48:52,471 --> 00:48:57,022 and we would begin to negotiate our way out of this situation. 739 00:48:57,143 --> 00:48:59,896 This became an article of faith. 740 00:49:00,020 --> 00:49:03,695 And this article of faith was a fallacious assumption. 741 00:49:03,858 --> 00:49:06,236 They weren't going to give up. 742 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:10,615 They read us better than we read them. 743 00:49:10,739 --> 00:49:14,585 The president insisted on strict secrecy- 744 00:49:14,702 --> 00:49:17,876 the American people were not to be told 745 00:49:18,038 --> 00:49:21,292 that the administration had changed its policy 746 00:49:21,417 --> 00:49:25,217 from retaliatory airstrikes to systematic bombing; 747 00:49:25,379 --> 00:49:28,553 that he had, in fact, widened the war. 748 00:49:28,716 --> 00:49:32,311 They jointly agreed that joint retaliatory action 749 00:49:32,428 --> 00:49:33,896 was required. 750 00:49:34,054 --> 00:49:37,729 General Westmoreland, who had initially been hesitant 751 00:49:37,892 --> 00:49:40,566 about committing ground troops to Vietnam, 752 00:49:40,686 --> 00:49:45,237 now asked for two battalions of Marines... 3,500 men... 753 00:49:45,399 --> 00:49:47,697 to protect the Danang airbase 754 00:49:47,818 --> 00:49:51,243 from which fighter-bombers were hitting the North. 755 00:49:51,405 --> 00:49:55,285 Ambassador Taylor, who had once called for ground troops, 756 00:49:55,409 --> 00:49:58,003 now objected to the whole idea. 757 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,545 "Once you put that first soldier ashore," he wrote, 758 00:50:01,665 --> 00:50:05,590 "you never know how many others are going to follow him." 759 00:50:05,711 --> 00:50:09,591 But the president felt he had no choice but to give Westmoreland 760 00:50:09,715 --> 00:50:11,717 what he asked for. 761 00:50:11,842 --> 00:50:16,689 He knew he would be blamed if more American advisors died. 762 00:50:16,805 --> 00:50:20,776 "I feel like a jackass caught in a Texas hailstorm," 763 00:50:20,893 --> 00:50:22,361 he complained. 764 00:50:22,478 --> 00:50:27,609 "I can't run, I can't hide, and I can't make it stop." 765 00:50:29,193 --> 00:50:31,070 In March of 1965, 766 00:50:31,195 --> 00:50:33,948 Johnson finally took the action he had managed to avoid 767 00:50:34,114 --> 00:50:36,116 for so long. 768 00:50:36,283 --> 00:50:38,456 # Kiss me goodbye... # 769 00:50:38,619 --> 00:50:41,589 He was putting American ground troops in Vietnam. 770 00:50:44,375 --> 00:50:49,882 # Goodbye, my sweetheart; hello, Vietnam # 771 00:50:50,005 --> 00:50:53,726 The government of South Vietnam was not even consulted; 772 00:50:53,842 --> 00:50:58,313 the United States of America had larger considerations. 773 00:51:00,474 --> 00:51:04,820 Clearly, we saw it in terms of the Cold War. 774 00:51:04,979 --> 00:51:08,984 Assistant Secretary of Defense John McNaughton said... 775 00:51:09,149 --> 00:51:10,651 He said our interests there 776 00:51:10,776 --> 00:51:16,078 were 70% to avoid humiliation, 777 00:51:16,198 --> 00:51:19,919 20% to contain China, 778 00:51:20,035 --> 00:51:23,414 and ten percent to help the Vietnamese. 779 00:51:25,749 --> 00:51:28,377 Johnson quietly told his good friend, 780 00:51:28,502 --> 00:51:30,675 Senator Richard Russell of Georgia, 781 00:51:30,838 --> 00:51:33,136 what was about to happen. 782 00:51:33,257 --> 00:51:36,018 I guess we got: no choice, but it scares the death out of me. 783 00:51:36,051 --> 00:51:37,404 I think everybody's going to think, 784 00:51:37,428 --> 00:51:38,850 "We're landing the Marines. 785 00:51:39,013 --> 00:51:40,640 We're off to battle." 786 00:51:40,764 --> 00:51:42,266 Of course, if they come up there, 787 00:51:42,391 --> 00:51:43,660 they're going to get them in a fight. 788 00:51:43,684 --> 00:51:44,981 And if they ruin those airplanes, 789 00:51:45,102 --> 00:51:47,163 everybody is going to give me hell for not securing them, 790 00:51:47,187 --> 00:51:48,987 just like they did last time they made a raid. 791 00:51:49,023 --> 00:51:50,275 Yeah. 792 00:51:50,399 --> 00:51:51,668 What do you... what do you think? 793 00:51:51,692 --> 00:51:53,365 Well, Mr. President, 794 00:51:53,485 --> 00:51:54,629 it scares the life out of me. 795 00:51:54,653 --> 00:51:56,053 But I don't know how to back up now. 796 00:51:56,155 --> 00:51:58,328 It looks to me like we just got in this thing, 797 00:51:58,449 --> 00:51:59,541 and there's no way out. 798 00:51:59,658 --> 00:52:00,830 I don't know. 799 00:52:00,951 --> 00:52:03,830 Dick, the great trouble I'm under... 800 00:52:03,954 --> 00:52:07,003 A man can fight if he can see daylight 801 00:52:07,124 --> 00:52:08,626 down the road somewhere. 802 00:52:08,751 --> 00:52:10,594 But there ain't no daylight in Vietnam. 803 00:52:10,711 --> 00:52:12,634 There's not a bit. 804 00:52:15,174 --> 00:52:18,974 On March 8, 1965, Dr. Phan Huy Quat, 805 00:52:19,094 --> 00:52:22,098 yet another prime minister of South Vietnam, 806 00:52:22,222 --> 00:52:26,068 called his chief of staff, Bui Diem. 807 00:52:59,927 --> 00:53:02,146 The Marines were landing at Danang 808 00:53:02,262 --> 00:53:06,438 on the east coast of South Vietnam, some 100 miles south 809 00:53:06,558 --> 00:53:08,526 of the demilitarized zone 810 00:53:08,644 --> 00:53:11,648 that divided the North from the South. 811 00:53:11,772 --> 00:53:15,242 They were prepared to fight their way ashore. 812 00:53:15,359 --> 00:53:17,282 They did not need to. 813 00:53:19,029 --> 00:53:20,149 What struck me 814 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:25,286 was how beautiful Vietnam was to look at. 815 00:53:27,329 --> 00:53:30,333 There were just these endless acres 816 00:53:30,457 --> 00:53:32,755 of these jade-green rice paddies. 817 00:53:32,876 --> 00:53:36,926 And these lovely villages inside these groves 818 00:53:37,047 --> 00:53:39,596 of bamboo and palm trees. 819 00:53:39,717 --> 00:53:44,814 And way off in the distance these bluish jungled mountains, 820 00:53:44,930 --> 00:53:48,025 and they looked like Shangri-La. 821 00:53:48,142 --> 00:53:52,238 And I remember seeing this line of Vietnamese women, 822 00:53:52,354 --> 00:53:54,152 or schoolgirls I think they were. 823 00:53:54,273 --> 00:53:57,368 They actually looked like angels come to earth 824 00:53:57,484 --> 00:53:58,781 or something like that. 825 00:53:58,902 --> 00:54:04,159 So it was really quite striking but a little unsettling 826 00:54:04,283 --> 00:54:05,330 because... 827 00:54:05,451 --> 00:54:06,953 so how can a place like this... 828 00:54:07,077 --> 00:54:10,456 so beautiful and so enchanting... be at war? 829 00:54:11,874 --> 00:54:14,047 My father was very happy. 830 00:54:14,168 --> 00:54:17,047 We're such a small and poor country 831 00:54:17,171 --> 00:54:21,642 and the Americans have decided to come in to save us 832 00:54:21,759 --> 00:54:25,263 not only with their money, their resources, 833 00:54:25,387 --> 00:54:28,231 but even with their own lives. 834 00:54:28,348 --> 00:54:30,146 We were very grateful. 835 00:54:30,267 --> 00:54:31,519 We thought the... 836 00:54:31,685 --> 00:54:34,529 sure enough with this power, the Americans are going to win. 837 00:54:34,688 --> 00:54:38,568 Seeing foreign troops marching past his village, 838 00:54:38,692 --> 00:54:44,244 an old man emerged from his home shouting, "Vivent Les Français!" 839 00:54:44,364 --> 00:54:47,459 He thought the French had returned. 840 00:54:48,869 --> 00:54:50,212 "The problem around here," 841 00:54:50,370 --> 00:54:54,671 a Marine captain leading a patrol told a reporter, 842 00:54:54,792 --> 00:54:57,591 "is who the hell is who?" 843 00:54:57,711 --> 00:55:01,511 As a voting member of Saigon Mission Council, 844 00:55:01,632 --> 00:55:06,058 I was opposed to the entry of American ground combat forces. 845 00:55:08,222 --> 00:55:12,443 I felt if the Vietnamese had to beat them off 846 00:55:12,559 --> 00:55:15,688 with a bloody stump, they had to do it themselves. 847 00:55:15,813 --> 00:55:19,863 We had to do everything we humanly could to help them, 848 00:55:19,983 --> 00:55:22,657 but we could not win it for them. 849 00:55:24,321 --> 00:55:28,292 So, I think we crossed the River Styx at that point. 850 00:55:55,602 --> 00:55:58,363 The first protest I went to against the war in Vietnam 851 00:55:58,438 --> 00:56:02,443 was a protest at a Dow Chemical facility. 852 00:56:05,529 --> 00:56:08,123 Dow was manufacturing napalm. 853 00:56:08,240 --> 00:56:11,244 They were dropping napalm on villages in Vietnam. 854 00:56:11,368 --> 00:56:13,871 It was a very disappointing experience 855 00:56:13,996 --> 00:56:16,966 because only 40 people came. 856 00:56:17,124 --> 00:56:19,673 And we seemed very out of place 857 00:56:19,793 --> 00:56:22,842 and very ineffectual, impotent, 858 00:56:22,963 --> 00:56:27,013 standing outside with 40 people. 859 00:56:27,134 --> 00:56:31,685 Most Americans understood little about Indochina, 860 00:56:31,805 --> 00:56:35,435 rarely knew anyone actually involved in the fighting, 861 00:56:35,559 --> 00:56:38,813 saw no reason to question the government's assertion 862 00:56:38,979 --> 00:56:41,653 that the United States had vital interests 863 00:56:41,815 --> 00:56:44,364 8,000 miles from home. 864 00:56:46,153 --> 00:56:49,157 Still, there was a small but growing number of people 865 00:56:49,323 --> 00:56:53,169 who had begun to oppose the war for any number of reasons... 866 00:56:53,285 --> 00:56:57,665 because they thought it unjust or immoral, 867 00:56:57,831 --> 00:57:00,505 believed it was unconstitutional 868 00:57:00,667 --> 00:57:04,171 or simply not in the national interest. 869 00:57:04,338 --> 00:57:07,638 # Oh I marched to the battle of New Orleans # 870 00:57:07,758 --> 00:57:10,602 Two weeks after the Marines landed at Danang, 871 00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,474 members of the University of Michigan faculty organized 872 00:57:14,598 --> 00:57:17,397 a night-long discussion between professors 873 00:57:17,517 --> 00:57:22,944 and some 3,000 students about the escalation of the war. 874 00:57:23,065 --> 00:57:24,692 The demonstration was called a teach-in 875 00:57:24,858 --> 00:57:26,531 because the idea originated 876 00:57:26,693 --> 00:57:28,366 with a group of university professors. 877 00:57:28,487 --> 00:57:31,707 What do you hope to accomplish? 878 00:57:31,865 --> 00:57:34,368 I'd like to open up communication between people 879 00:57:34,534 --> 00:57:36,662 and the government because I believe 880 00:57:36,787 --> 00:57:38,664 that they are not telling us what is going on, 881 00:57:38,789 --> 00:57:41,149 and the people have the right to know, and we have the right 882 00:57:41,249 --> 00:57:42,967 to tell the government what we think. 883 00:57:43,085 --> 00:57:48,057 Soon, there were teach-ins on most major university campuses. 884 00:57:48,173 --> 00:57:51,347 There is no morally wonderful way out. 885 00:57:51,468 --> 00:57:56,395 NYU in Manhattan, the University of Wisconsin in Madison, 886 00:57:56,515 --> 00:58:01,146 the University of California in Berkeley. 887 00:58:01,269 --> 00:58:04,398 The teach-ins were really raucous affairs. 888 00:58:04,523 --> 00:58:07,026 A lot of contention. 889 00:58:07,150 --> 00:58:08,447 We want to discuss 890 00:58:08,568 --> 00:58:11,367 is what's wrong with the Vietnam War, and... 891 00:58:11,488 --> 00:58:13,286 # And so many others # 892 00:58:13,407 --> 00:58:15,000 # But I ain't marchin' anymore # 893 00:58:15,117 --> 00:58:16,494 Do you endorse 894 00:58:16,618 --> 00:58:18,495 the administration's policy in South Vietnam? 895 00:58:18,620 --> 00:58:20,213 Whole-heartedly. 896 00:58:20,330 --> 00:58:21,766 There were plenty of times 897 00:58:21,790 --> 00:58:23,667 when people who were supportive of the war 898 00:58:23,792 --> 00:58:25,089 came to these teach-ins 899 00:58:25,252 --> 00:58:28,256 to try to give an alternative anticommunist point of view. 900 00:58:28,380 --> 00:58:30,553 They were often shouted down. 901 00:58:32,634 --> 00:58:36,480 The bombing of the North and the Marines' arrival 902 00:58:36,596 --> 00:58:40,601 also drew protestors to Washington that spring. 903 00:58:40,726 --> 00:58:42,319 The demonstration was organized 904 00:58:42,436 --> 00:58:47,237 by the Students for a Democratic Society... the SDS. 905 00:58:47,357 --> 00:58:52,113 I saw SDS calling for a demonstration at the White House 906 00:58:52,279 --> 00:58:54,782 in the spring of 1965. 907 00:58:54,906 --> 00:58:57,955 I didn't want to go because I didn't want to be disappointed 908 00:58:58,076 --> 00:58:59,578 in the same way again and, you know, 909 00:58:59,703 --> 00:59:01,171 go all the way to Washington 910 00:59:01,288 --> 00:59:03,208 and stand outside the White House with 40 people. 911 00:59:04,750 --> 00:59:07,674 25,000 people attended that rally. 912 00:59:10,130 --> 00:59:12,007 And that suddenly told me 913 00:59:12,132 --> 00:59:15,557 and others I was working with at the time 914 00:59:15,677 --> 00:59:19,352 that it might be possible to build an antiwar movement. 915 00:59:23,935 --> 00:59:25,913 It was quite astounding to think 916 00:59:25,937 --> 00:59:28,656 that he had that degree of commitment. 917 00:59:28,774 --> 00:59:30,902 And it made sense 918 00:59:31,026 --> 00:59:36,248 in what we knew of him, as drastic as it was. 919 00:59:37,866 --> 00:59:40,415 Nothing Mogie Crocker's parents could say or do 920 00:59:40,535 --> 00:59:42,503 since Mogie had come home 921 00:59:42,621 --> 00:59:45,044 shook his determination to serve, 922 00:59:45,165 --> 00:59:47,088 and recent developments in Vietnam 923 00:59:47,209 --> 00:59:49,837 had only strengthened his resolve. 924 00:59:49,961 --> 00:59:54,057 He wanted to become a paratrooper and get into combat. 925 00:59:54,174 --> 00:59:56,643 His parents finally, reluctantly, 926 00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,604 agreed to let him go, and on March 15, 927 00:59:59,721 --> 01:00:03,396 a week after the first Marines landed at Danang, 928 01:00:03,517 --> 01:00:08,694 Denton Crocker, Jr. entered the United States Army. 929 01:00:08,855 --> 01:00:12,029 So Denton bounced down the steps one morning 930 01:00:12,192 --> 01:00:15,287 and was off to Fort Dix. 931 01:00:15,403 --> 01:00:18,998 It was in a way a sort of relief, actually, 932 01:00:19,116 --> 01:00:21,960 that the conflict and the anxiety 933 01:00:22,077 --> 01:00:25,377 over whether he would or would not go was done. 934 01:00:25,497 --> 01:00:26,840 And he was happy. 935 01:00:26,957 --> 01:00:30,382 And we just tried to believe that this was the right thing 936 01:00:30,502 --> 01:00:32,345 for him to do. 937 01:01:22,679 --> 01:01:26,024 Le Minh Khue was orphaned as a small girl, 938 01:01:26,141 --> 01:01:29,065 her parents victims of the brutal land reforms 939 01:01:29,186 --> 01:01:31,814 the communists had imposed. 940 01:01:31,938 --> 01:01:34,441 She was raised by her aunt and uncle, 941 01:01:34,566 --> 01:01:38,616 who encouraged her to read American literature. 942 01:01:38,778 --> 01:01:43,454 She was 16 when Operation Rolling Thunder began. 943 01:02:18,902 --> 01:02:21,451 Khue was assigned to an organization called 944 01:02:21,571 --> 01:02:24,324 the "Youth Shock Brigades Against the Americans 945 01:02:24,491 --> 01:02:26,368 for National Salvation," 946 01:02:26,493 --> 01:02:29,838 and along with thousands of other young people 947 01:02:29,996 --> 01:02:34,172 was sent south to work keeping open the Ho Chi Minh Trail. 948 01:03:13,873 --> 01:03:15,671 As Johnson had feared, 949 01:03:15,792 --> 01:03:19,513 it quickly became clear that the bombing campaign alone 950 01:03:19,629 --> 01:03:21,256 was not working. 951 01:03:21,381 --> 01:03:25,602 Troops and supplies continued steadily to filter down 952 01:03:25,719 --> 01:03:27,892 the Ho Chi Minh Trail. 953 01:03:28,054 --> 01:03:30,728 General Westmoreland and the Joint Chiefs 954 01:03:30,890 --> 01:03:34,394 called for more men, tens of thousands of them. 955 01:03:34,519 --> 01:03:37,739 The president was cautious. 956 01:03:37,856 --> 01:03:40,575 He wanted to do "enough, but not too much," he said. 957 01:03:40,692 --> 01:03:44,572 But he quietly agreed to send two more Marine battalions 958 01:03:44,696 --> 01:03:50,203 and changed their mission from base security to active combat. 959 01:03:50,327 --> 01:03:51,579 For the first time, 960 01:03:51,703 --> 01:03:54,081 American troops were being asked 961 01:03:54,247 --> 01:03:57,296 to fight on their own in Vietnam. 962 01:03:57,417 --> 01:04:00,796 Johnson did not want that fact revealed 963 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,343 to the American public either. 964 01:04:03,465 --> 01:04:05,183 But the bombing of the North 965 01:04:05,300 --> 01:04:07,769 and rumors of harsher measures to come 966 01:04:07,886 --> 01:04:11,186 had heightened concern around the world. 967 01:04:11,306 --> 01:04:14,025 UN Secretary-General U Thant had proposed 968 01:04:14,142 --> 01:04:16,361 a three-month ceasefire. 969 01:04:16,478 --> 01:04:19,277 Great Britain, America's closest ally, 970 01:04:19,397 --> 01:04:23,118 publicly offered to reconvene the Geneva Talks 971 01:04:23,234 --> 01:04:26,113 that had divided Vietnam in 1954, 972 01:04:26,279 --> 01:04:29,749 with the goal of reuniting it. 973 01:04:29,866 --> 01:04:32,961 The people of South Vietnam be allowed to guide 974 01:04:33,119 --> 01:04:34,416 their own country... 975 01:04:34,537 --> 01:04:37,791 On April 7, at Johns Hopkins University, 976 01:04:37,916 --> 01:04:40,089 Johnson sought to persuade the world 977 01:04:40,210 --> 01:04:42,463 of America's good intentions 978 01:04:42,587 --> 01:04:46,967 and again to calm American fears of a wider war. 979 01:04:48,635 --> 01:04:52,481 In recent months, attacks on South Vietnam were stepped up. 980 01:04:52,597 --> 01:04:57,444 Thus, it became necessary for us to increase our response 981 01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:00,655 and to make attacks by air. 982 01:05:00,814 --> 01:05:04,364 This is not a change of purpose. 983 01:05:04,484 --> 01:05:09,911 It is a change in what we believe that purpose requires. 984 01:05:10,031 --> 01:05:13,831 Nothing was said about the new orders sending Marines 985 01:05:13,952 --> 01:05:16,501 directly into combat. 986 01:05:16,621 --> 01:05:21,297 Instead, the president called for "unconditional discussions" 987 01:05:21,418 --> 01:05:24,718 with Hanoi, and as an old New Dealer, 988 01:05:24,838 --> 01:05:27,557 proposed a massive development program 989 01:05:27,674 --> 01:05:29,642 for all of Southeast Asia. 990 01:05:29,759 --> 01:05:32,353 The vast Mekong River can provide 991 01:05:32,512 --> 01:05:34,014 food and water and power 992 01:05:34,180 --> 01:05:37,650 on a scale to dwarf even our own TVA. 993 01:05:39,853 --> 01:05:41,947 I was outside of the village. 994 01:05:42,063 --> 01:05:44,316 We're getting some fire from the village. 995 01:05:44,441 --> 01:05:46,694 I had the little transistor radio. 996 01:05:46,860 --> 01:05:49,864 And I'm sitting there listening to LBJ. 997 01:05:50,029 --> 01:05:51,872 ...will use our power with restraint 998 01:05:51,990 --> 01:05:53,958 and with all the wisdom... 999 01:05:54,075 --> 01:05:57,500 At the same time we got to lay some nape on the village. 1000 01:05:57,620 --> 01:05:59,372 So I'm calling in the nape 1001 01:05:59,539 --> 01:06:02,839 and listening to the president talk peace. 1002 01:06:02,959 --> 01:06:05,963 We will try to keep conflict from spreading. 1003 01:06:06,087 --> 01:06:08,761 It was surreal. 1004 01:06:08,882 --> 01:06:10,884 We have no desire to devastate 1005 01:06:11,050 --> 01:06:15,226 that which the people of North Vietnam have built 1006 01:06:15,346 --> 01:06:18,475 with toil and sacrifice. 1007 01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:24,607 This war, like most wars, is filled with terrible irony. 1008 01:06:24,731 --> 01:06:26,404 What do the people of North Vietnam want? 1009 01:06:31,446 --> 01:06:35,496 Hanoi denounced the president's offer as a trick. 1010 01:06:35,617 --> 01:06:38,587 Johnson's advisors and the Joint Chiefs of Staff 1011 01:06:38,745 --> 01:06:42,795 continued to debate how many men would actually be needed 1012 01:06:42,916 --> 01:06:46,295 and how rapidly they should be deployed. 1013 01:06:46,419 --> 01:06:50,765 Meanwhile, the president sent the first Army combat troops 1014 01:06:50,924 --> 01:06:52,096 to the country. 1015 01:06:52,217 --> 01:06:54,390 It was increasingly clear 1016 01:06:54,511 --> 01:06:58,266 that the United States was in it for the long haul. 1017 01:07:02,101 --> 01:07:09,326 You can't just be a neutral witness to something like war. 1018 01:07:17,116 --> 01:07:21,041 It crawls down your throat. 1019 01:07:21,162 --> 01:07:26,293 It eats you alive from the inside and the out. 1020 01:07:30,713 --> 01:07:35,344 It's not something that you can stand back and be neutral 1021 01:07:35,468 --> 01:07:41,726 and objective and all of those things we try to be 1022 01:07:41,849 --> 01:07:45,353 as reporters, journalists, photographers. 1023 01:07:48,064 --> 01:07:50,783 It doesn't work that way. 1024 01:07:53,319 --> 01:07:57,324 ...defense and they're real quick... and check it out... 1025 01:07:57,490 --> 01:08:01,085 The growing presence of American combat troops in Vietnam 1026 01:08:01,202 --> 01:08:05,173 attracted flocks of journalists. 1027 01:08:05,290 --> 01:08:07,338 There was no press censorship, 1028 01:08:07,500 --> 01:08:10,800 as there had been in World War II. 1029 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:15,175 Reporters just had to agree to follow military guidelines 1030 01:08:15,341 --> 01:08:17,639 so as not to compromise the security 1031 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,013 of ongoing operations. 1032 01:08:20,138 --> 01:08:22,391 It was dangerous work. 1033 01:08:22,515 --> 01:08:26,861 More than 200 journalists and photographers would die 1034 01:08:27,020 --> 01:08:30,069 covering the fighting in Southeast Asia. 1035 01:08:30,189 --> 01:08:33,443 Joseph Lee Galloway was a young UPI reporter 1036 01:08:33,568 --> 01:08:36,868 from Refugio, Texas. 1037 01:08:36,988 --> 01:08:40,709 He stopped in Saigon just long enough to get his credentials. 1038 01:08:40,825 --> 01:08:43,795 Then he headed for Danang. 1039 01:08:43,911 --> 01:08:47,165 The Marines originally came ashore there 1040 01:08:47,290 --> 01:08:49,793 to guard the airbase. 1041 01:08:49,917 --> 01:08:55,890 And they quickly figured out you can't just guard an airbase. 1042 01:08:56,049 --> 01:08:57,722 You've got to spread out 1043 01:08:57,884 --> 01:08:59,236 because they're going to mortar it, 1044 01:08:59,260 --> 01:09:01,012 they're going to shoot rockets. 1045 01:09:01,137 --> 01:09:04,812 So you've got to reach out 15 or 20 miles. 1046 01:09:04,932 --> 01:09:08,857 That means you've got to run operations that far out. 1047 01:09:08,978 --> 01:09:10,400 And once you're doing that, 1048 01:09:10,563 --> 01:09:12,816 you're no longer guarding an airbase... 1049 01:09:14,692 --> 01:09:17,866 ...you're operating in hostile territory. 1050 01:09:48,476 --> 01:09:52,777 It wasn't so much the Viet Cong that were intimidating 1051 01:09:52,897 --> 01:09:56,117 at that point as it was the terrain. 1052 01:09:56,275 --> 01:10:00,872 Going from Point A to Point B in the jungle 1053 01:10:00,988 --> 01:10:02,285 was so difficult. 1054 01:10:02,407 --> 01:10:06,753 As it happened to me once, it took four hours 1055 01:10:06,869 --> 01:10:08,963 to move a half a mile, 1056 01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:12,254 cutting through this bush with machetes. 1057 01:10:14,544 --> 01:10:20,347 The Viet Cong knew the terrain far better than the Marines did, 1058 01:10:20,466 --> 01:10:24,141 and ran circles around them. 1059 01:10:36,482 --> 01:10:41,830 Fort Dix, June 10, 1965. 1060 01:10:41,988 --> 01:10:43,490 Dear Mum, 1061 01:10:43,656 --> 01:10:47,581 Basic is now all over and I am presently waiting for orders. 1062 01:10:47,702 --> 01:10:49,875 Waiting for orders could be very dull 1063 01:10:49,996 --> 01:10:51,716 but I have found there are excellent chances 1064 01:10:51,831 --> 01:10:53,549 to do some reading. 1065 01:10:53,666 --> 01:10:55,839 Recently I have read Wuthering Heights, 1066 01:10:55,960 --> 01:11:00,636 Animal Farm, Seven Pillars of Wisdom, and Lord Jim. 1067 01:11:00,757 --> 01:11:02,430 I hope you are all well. 1068 01:11:02,550 --> 01:11:04,018 Love, Mogie. 1069 01:11:05,845 --> 01:11:08,473 Mogie Crocker was allowed two weeks at home 1070 01:11:08,598 --> 01:11:11,351 before shipping out to Vietnam. 1071 01:11:13,269 --> 01:11:15,038 We were at dinner one evening 1072 01:11:15,062 --> 01:11:18,316 just talking, I guess, in generalities about the war 1073 01:11:18,441 --> 01:11:20,660 and the general situation. 1074 01:11:20,777 --> 01:11:25,453 And Mogie said, "Of course if I were a Vietnamese, 1075 01:11:25,573 --> 01:11:28,372 I would be on the side of the Viet Cong." 1076 01:11:28,493 --> 01:11:32,214 That... I puzzled over that. 1077 01:11:32,330 --> 01:11:35,630 I suppose relating like to our American Revolution 1078 01:11:35,750 --> 01:11:39,220 that he saw their need for their own freedom. 1079 01:11:39,337 --> 01:11:41,465 But as an American citizen, 1080 01:11:41,589 --> 01:11:46,470 he saw the larger picture of trying to prevent communism. 1081 01:11:46,594 --> 01:11:49,313 I remember one night in particular 1082 01:11:49,430 --> 01:11:51,057 he and I were up late. 1083 01:11:51,224 --> 01:11:56,230 And he suddenly leaned his head in his hands. 1084 01:11:56,395 --> 01:11:59,490 And he said, "I don't want to go back." 1085 01:12:00,691 --> 01:12:02,989 I was dumbstruck. 1086 01:12:03,110 --> 01:12:08,708 And said to him, "But this is what you want to do." 1087 01:12:08,825 --> 01:12:12,250 It had never occurred to me that he was torn about this, 1088 01:12:12,370 --> 01:12:15,749 that he was afraid and yet was determined to go. 1089 01:12:26,425 --> 01:12:30,146 In South Vietnam, things were steadily growing worse. 1090 01:12:32,265 --> 01:12:34,768 # Well, you've got your diamond. # 1091 01:12:34,892 --> 01:12:37,941 In May, the Viet Cong, 1092 01:12:38,062 --> 01:12:41,737 supported now by four regiments of North Vietnamese regulars... 1093 01:12:41,858 --> 01:12:44,327 approximately 5,000 men... 1094 01:12:44,443 --> 01:12:48,289 were destroying the equivalent of a South Vietnamese battalion 1095 01:12:48,406 --> 01:12:50,124 every week. 1096 01:12:50,241 --> 01:12:52,039 # But don't play with me # 1097 01:12:52,159 --> 01:12:54,287 # Because you're playing with fire. # 1098 01:12:54,453 --> 01:12:59,425 South Vietnam now seemed only weeks from complete collapse. 1099 01:12:59,542 --> 01:13:03,137 Desperate, General Westmoreland requested 1100 01:13:03,254 --> 01:13:08,181 tens of thousands of more American troops right away. 1101 01:13:08,301 --> 01:13:11,020 But neither the continuing bombing 1102 01:13:11,137 --> 01:13:14,767 nor the growing likelihood of full-scale American intervention 1103 01:13:14,891 --> 01:13:18,145 seemed to intimidate Hanoi. 1104 01:13:18,311 --> 01:13:21,155 Le Duan, having failed to win the war 1105 01:13:21,272 --> 01:13:23,946 before the United States sent in ground troops, 1106 01:13:24,066 --> 01:13:27,195 was now persuaded the American public, 1107 01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:30,745 like the French public before them, would eventually weary 1108 01:13:30,865 --> 01:13:36,497 of a costly, bloody war being waged so far from home. 1109 01:13:36,621 --> 01:13:41,673 By contrast, he said, "The North will not count the cost." 1110 01:13:41,792 --> 01:13:44,341 Le Duan's confidence was bolstered 1111 01:13:44,462 --> 01:13:47,056 by the help American intervention had forced 1112 01:13:47,173 --> 01:13:50,723 the Soviet Union and China to offer him. 1113 01:13:50,843 --> 01:13:55,019 Moscow agreed to supply vast amounts of modern weaponry 1114 01:13:55,139 --> 01:13:56,482 and materiel. 1115 01:13:56,599 --> 01:14:01,355 Hanoi would eventually become the most heavily defended city 1116 01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:02,737 on Earth. 1117 01:14:02,855 --> 01:14:05,984 And China agreed to send support troops, 1118 01:14:06,108 --> 01:14:09,328 freeing North Vietnamese soldiers for combat 1119 01:14:09,445 --> 01:14:10,992 in the South. 1120 01:14:11,113 --> 01:14:16,210 320,000 Chinese would eventually serve behind the lines 1121 01:14:16,369 --> 01:14:19,418 in the North. 1122 01:14:19,538 --> 01:14:21,632 "We will fight," Le Duan promised, 1123 01:14:21,749 --> 01:14:25,003 "whatever way the United States wants." 1124 01:14:26,212 --> 01:14:29,386 In June of 1965, 1125 01:14:29,548 --> 01:14:31,971 Secretary McNamara, the Secretary of Defense, 1126 01:14:32,093 --> 01:14:33,390 came out to Saigon. 1127 01:14:33,511 --> 01:14:37,015 There were a lot of captains and majors and lieutenants. 1128 01:14:37,139 --> 01:14:41,064 And every person said to Mr. McNamara, 1129 01:14:41,227 --> 01:14:43,571 "The situation is so dire 1130 01:14:43,729 --> 01:14:46,403 we must bring in United States forces." 1131 01:14:46,524 --> 01:14:49,448 So, whatever doubts we may have had, 1132 01:14:49,568 --> 01:14:51,366 whatever people may say after the fact, 1133 01:14:51,487 --> 01:14:54,240 I recall distinctly at the time 1134 01:14:54,407 --> 01:14:57,160 telling the Secretary of Defense that I thought we needed 1135 01:14:57,284 --> 01:14:58,331 to bring troops in there. 1136 01:14:59,662 --> 01:15:01,005 For three weeks, 1137 01:15:01,122 --> 01:15:04,342 the president and his advisors argued over how to respond 1138 01:15:04,458 --> 01:15:08,088 to Westmoreland's urgent request for more troops, 1139 01:15:08,212 --> 01:15:12,763 differing mostly over how many should be sent how fast. 1140 01:15:12,883 --> 01:15:17,263 Undersecretary of State George Ball made the argument 1141 01:15:17,430 --> 01:15:20,058 against further escalation. 1142 01:15:20,182 --> 01:15:24,107 He told the president the war could not be won. 1143 01:15:24,270 --> 01:15:27,274 The American people will grow weary of it. 1144 01:15:27,398 --> 01:15:29,446 Our troops will get bogged down 1145 01:15:29,567 --> 01:15:31,945 "in the jungles and rice paddies," he warned, 1146 01:15:32,111 --> 01:15:35,615 "while we slowly blow the country to pieces." 1147 01:15:35,781 --> 01:15:38,125 No one else agreed. 1148 01:15:38,242 --> 01:15:41,337 # But don't play with me... # 1149 01:15:41,454 --> 01:15:46,961 In the end, Johnson sent Westmoreland 50,000 men. 1150 01:15:47,126 --> 01:15:52,508 But he pledged another 50,000 by the end of 1965, 1151 01:15:52,631 --> 01:15:55,555 and still more if they were needed. 1152 01:15:55,676 --> 01:15:58,020 # Because you're playing with fire. # 1153 01:15:59,805 --> 01:16:03,651 # Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die # 1154 01:16:32,296 --> 01:16:34,014 Hold your fire! 1155 01:16:34,131 --> 01:16:35,223 Hold your fire. 1156 01:16:36,467 --> 01:16:38,094 Does the fact 1157 01:16:38,219 --> 01:16:41,143 that you are sending additional forces to Vietnam 1158 01:16:41,263 --> 01:16:44,187 imply any change in the existing policy 1159 01:16:44,308 --> 01:16:47,903 of using American forces to guard American installations 1160 01:16:48,020 --> 01:16:50,193 and to act as an emergency backup? 1161 01:16:50,314 --> 01:16:53,488 It does not imply any change in policy whatever. 1162 01:16:53,609 --> 01:16:56,579 It does not imply any change of objective. 1163 01:16:56,695 --> 01:16:57,787 Uh... 1164 01:17:00,032 --> 01:17:01,872 The month of June saw soldiers here 1165 01:17:01,951 --> 01:17:03,123 taking what appears to be... 1166 01:17:03,244 --> 01:17:05,747 Most television reports from Vietnam 1167 01:17:05,871 --> 01:17:09,216 echoed the newsreels Americans had flocked to see 1168 01:17:09,333 --> 01:17:13,634 during the Second World War... enthusiastic, unquestioning, 1169 01:17:13,754 --> 01:17:18,555 good guys fighting and defeating bad guys. 1170 01:17:18,717 --> 01:17:23,063 But at dinnertime on August 5, 1965, 1171 01:17:23,222 --> 01:17:25,975 Americans saw another side of the war. 1172 01:17:27,643 --> 01:17:30,237 We're on the outskirts of the village of Cam Ne 1173 01:17:30,354 --> 01:17:32,072 with elements of the 1st Battalion... 1174 01:17:32,231 --> 01:17:35,656 CBS correspondent Morley Safer and his crew 1175 01:17:35,776 --> 01:17:38,996 went on patrol with Marines near Danang. 1176 01:17:39,113 --> 01:17:42,208 Their orders were first to search a cluster 1177 01:17:42,324 --> 01:17:46,204 of four villages for caches of arms and rice 1178 01:17:46,328 --> 01:17:51,209 meant for the enemy and then to destroy them all. 1179 01:17:54,628 --> 01:17:57,632 This is what the war in Vietnam is all about. 1180 01:18:01,468 --> 01:18:04,893 The old and the very young. 1181 01:18:05,014 --> 01:18:07,767 The Marines have burned 1182 01:18:07,892 --> 01:18:09,769 this old couple's cottage 1183 01:18:09,894 --> 01:18:11,612 because fire was coming from here. 1184 01:18:11,770 --> 01:18:13,363 And now when you walk into the village 1185 01:18:13,480 --> 01:18:15,107 you see no young people at all. 1186 01:18:19,904 --> 01:18:23,033 The day's operation burned down 150 houses, 1187 01:18:23,157 --> 01:18:26,411 wounded three women, killed one baby, 1188 01:18:26,535 --> 01:18:31,962 wounded one Marine, and netted these four prisoners. 1189 01:18:32,082 --> 01:18:35,006 Today's operation is the frustration of Vietnam 1190 01:18:35,127 --> 01:18:36,925 in miniature. 1191 01:18:37,046 --> 01:18:39,344 There is little doubt that American firepower 1192 01:18:39,465 --> 01:18:41,684 can win a military victory here. 1193 01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:46,556 But to a Vietnamese peasant whose home is a... 1194 01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:48,978 means a lifetime of backbreaking labor, 1195 01:18:49,099 --> 01:18:51,852 it will take more than presidential promises 1196 01:18:51,977 --> 01:18:54,821 to convince him that we are on his side. 1197 01:18:56,607 --> 01:18:58,487 The next morning, the president called 1198 01:18:58,567 --> 01:19:02,697 his friend Frank Stanton, the head of CBS. 1199 01:19:02,821 --> 01:19:05,995 "Hello, Frank, this is your president. 1200 01:19:06,116 --> 01:19:08,244 Are you trying to fuck me?" 1201 01:19:09,703 --> 01:19:13,048 Safer had defaced the American flag, Johnson said. 1202 01:19:13,165 --> 01:19:17,466 He was probably an agent of the Kremlin, had to be fired. 1203 01:19:17,586 --> 01:19:21,716 The Marines claimed Safer had provided a zippo lighter 1204 01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:25,595 and asked the Marines to burn the hut for the camera. 1205 01:19:25,719 --> 01:19:28,017 A major at the Danang Marine press office 1206 01:19:28,138 --> 01:19:32,143 called CBS the "Communist Broadcasting System." 1207 01:19:33,352 --> 01:19:34,695 But after the operation, 1208 01:19:34,853 --> 01:19:40,075 Safer interviewed some of the Marines who'd burned Cam Ne. 1209 01:19:40,192 --> 01:19:42,411 Do you ever have any private thoughts, 1210 01:19:42,528 --> 01:19:45,031 any private regrets about some of these people 1211 01:19:45,155 --> 01:19:46,407 you are leaving homeless? 1212 01:19:46,532 --> 01:19:47,749 I feel no remorse. 1213 01:19:47,866 --> 01:19:49,052 I don't imagine anybody else does. 1214 01:19:49,076 --> 01:19:50,316 You can't expect to do your job 1215 01:19:50,369 --> 01:19:51,746 and feel pity for these people. 1216 01:19:53,872 --> 01:19:56,170 When some viewers registered their shock, 1217 01:19:56,292 --> 01:20:00,297 Westmoreland admitted, "We have a genuine problem 1218 01:20:00,421 --> 01:20:04,267 "which will be with us as long as we are in Vietnam. 1219 01:20:04,383 --> 01:20:09,435 "Commanders must exercise restraint unnatural to war 1220 01:20:09,555 --> 01:20:13,401 and judgment not often required of young men." 1221 01:20:17,563 --> 01:20:20,282 You kind of thought at first 1222 01:20:20,399 --> 01:20:23,027 that it was going to be like the GIs, you know, 1223 01:20:23,152 --> 01:20:25,746 rolling through Paris after the liberation. 1224 01:20:27,906 --> 01:20:30,659 Well, you know, it sure didn't work out that way. 1225 01:20:32,828 --> 01:20:35,047 I can remember once going in this one ville. 1226 01:20:35,164 --> 01:20:38,418 And I remember finding this entire Vietnamese family 1227 01:20:38,542 --> 01:20:41,261 cowering in a bunker. 1228 01:20:42,629 --> 01:20:44,927 And they were terrified of us. 1229 01:20:48,719 --> 01:20:51,268 And I remember thinking to myself, I said, 1230 01:20:51,388 --> 01:20:55,518 "Well, I wonder if back in the colonial days, 1231 01:20:55,642 --> 01:20:58,737 "when the Redcoats barged into Ipswich, Massachusetts, 1232 01:20:58,854 --> 01:20:59,855 "or wherever, 1233 01:20:59,980 --> 01:21:03,484 "if this is how Americans must have felt 1234 01:21:03,609 --> 01:21:07,159 looking at these foreign soldiers coming in here." 1235 01:21:07,279 --> 01:21:08,559 The Viet Cong 1236 01:21:08,614 --> 01:21:13,871 have terrorized you, and have burned your homes. 1237 01:21:13,994 --> 01:21:16,998 We are here to help you. 1238 01:21:17,122 --> 01:21:21,377 To show how much we are able to protect you, 1239 01:21:21,502 --> 01:21:26,724 we are going to have the Air Force 1240 01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:31,971 hit some Viet Cong on the other side of the valley. 1241 01:21:32,137 --> 01:21:33,980 That will be at 10:30. 1242 01:21:57,079 --> 01:21:59,127 Dear Mum and Dad, 1243 01:21:59,248 --> 01:22:02,218 I am now with the 1st Brigade, 101st Airborne Division 1244 01:22:02,334 --> 01:22:04,132 in Vietnam. 1245 01:22:10,259 --> 01:22:12,057 What is taking place in America? 1246 01:22:12,177 --> 01:22:14,976 We who are in Vietnam find these protests 1247 01:22:15,097 --> 01:22:16,724 very hard to comprehend, 1248 01:22:16,849 --> 01:22:20,444 and many people here are quite bitter about them. 1249 01:22:20,561 --> 01:22:23,906 # Let me tell you the story in South Vietnam. # 1250 01:22:24,022 --> 01:22:25,667 The belief I have in our present policy 1251 01:22:25,691 --> 01:22:29,537 has been completely confirmed by what I have seen here. 1252 01:22:29,695 --> 01:22:32,699 My chief worry is that these pacifist bleatings 1253 01:22:32,823 --> 01:22:35,702 might effect even a small change in government policy 1254 01:22:35,826 --> 01:22:38,454 at a time when we appear close to success. 1255 01:22:38,579 --> 01:22:43,176 # And the war drags on. # 1256 01:22:45,335 --> 01:22:49,590 As Vietnam began to be more and more chaotic, 1257 01:22:49,715 --> 01:22:54,391 I certainly wondered very much whether we should be there. 1258 01:22:54,511 --> 01:22:56,889 But I never expressed that to him. 1259 01:22:57,014 --> 01:23:00,359 That's one of those conflicts that's just too difficult 1260 01:23:00,476 --> 01:23:03,070 to bring up, or at least it was for me. 1261 01:23:09,401 --> 01:23:14,999 # Now I taught the weeping willow how to cry # 1262 01:23:15,115 --> 01:23:19,996 # And I showed the clouds how to cover up a clear blue sky. # 1263 01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:22,043 We were all excited about the arrival 1264 01:23:22,164 --> 01:23:26,761 of the 1st Cavalry Division, an experimental unit. 1265 01:23:26,919 --> 01:23:31,095 They've been trained in air-mobile warfare 1266 01:23:31,256 --> 01:23:37,810 using these helicopters to the absolute maximum benefit. 1267 01:23:37,930 --> 01:23:43,903 They're moving their artillery by helicopter, jumping it, 1268 01:23:44,019 --> 01:23:48,946 leapfrogging troops, chasing the enemy, driving him crazy. 1269 01:23:51,276 --> 01:23:53,278 This is something new, 1270 01:23:53,403 --> 01:23:57,033 and it's going to change the way we do war. 1271 01:23:57,157 --> 01:23:59,785 # I found her trail in Memphis... # 1272 01:23:59,952 --> 01:24:02,455 In September of 1965, 1273 01:24:02,579 --> 01:24:05,128 the newly created 1st Cavalry Division... 1274 01:24:05,290 --> 01:24:13,290 16,000 men, 1,600 vehicles, 435 helicopters... 1275 01:24:13,674 --> 01:24:18,475 had begun arriving at An Khe, a massive base carved out 1276 01:24:18,637 --> 01:24:21,481 of the grasslands at the edge of the Central Highlands. 1277 01:24:23,016 --> 01:24:26,316 Its heliport would come to be called the "Golf Course." 1278 01:24:30,023 --> 01:24:33,527 As the 1st Cavalry got used to its new surroundings, 1279 01:24:33,652 --> 01:24:37,452 thousands of North Vietnamese regulars were slipping south 1280 01:24:37,573 --> 01:24:40,918 into the Highlands along the Ho Chi Minh Trail, 1281 01:24:41,034 --> 01:24:44,413 joining Viet Cong units already in place. 1282 01:24:44,538 --> 01:24:47,917 They established their own base on and around 1283 01:24:48,041 --> 01:24:51,295 a jumble of thickly forested mountains and ravines 1284 01:24:51,420 --> 01:24:54,139 south of the Ia Drang River. 1285 01:24:54,256 --> 01:24:56,805 On the evening of October 19, 1286 01:24:56,925 --> 01:25:00,054 communist commandos slipped to within 40 yards 1287 01:25:00,178 --> 01:25:03,682 of the perimeter wire of the U.S. Special Forces outpost 1288 01:25:03,807 --> 01:25:05,150 at Plei Me, 1289 01:25:05,267 --> 01:25:09,898 which was defended by a 12-man team of U.S. Green Berets, 1290 01:25:10,022 --> 01:25:15,825 14 ARVN, and some 400 mountain tribesmen. 1291 01:25:21,908 --> 01:25:24,582 Nine of the 12 Green Berets were hit. 1292 01:25:24,703 --> 01:25:27,422 They managed to hold out for two days 1293 01:25:27,539 --> 01:25:33,922 before 15 more Green Berets and 160 South Vietnamese Rangers 1294 01:25:34,046 --> 01:25:38,597 were helicoptered in, commanded by Major Charles Beckwith, 1295 01:25:38,717 --> 01:25:42,722 known to his fellow soldiers as Chargin' Charlie. 1296 01:25:43,889 --> 01:25:45,186 The next day, 1297 01:25:45,307 --> 01:25:47,901 Joe Galloway managed to talk a helicopter pilot 1298 01:25:48,060 --> 01:25:51,405 into flying him into the besieged camp. 1299 01:25:51,563 --> 01:25:56,319 That's where I met Major Charles Beckwith. 1300 01:25:56,443 --> 01:25:59,788 He said, "I need everything in the world. 1301 01:25:59,905 --> 01:26:03,751 "And what has the Army in its wisdom sent me 1302 01:26:03,909 --> 01:26:06,958 but a godforsaken reporter?" 1303 01:26:07,079 --> 01:26:10,083 He drug me over and showed me 1304 01:26:10,248 --> 01:26:13,923 a BO-caliber air-cooled machine gun. 1305 01:26:14,044 --> 01:26:16,638 He showed me how to load it, how to clear a jam. 1306 01:26:16,755 --> 01:26:20,760 "You can shoot the little brown men outside the wire," 1307 01:26:20,884 --> 01:26:22,761 Beckwith told Galloway. 1308 01:26:22,886 --> 01:26:24,763 "You may not shoot the little brown men 1309 01:26:24,930 --> 01:26:28,480 inside the wire; they are mine." 1310 01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:30,398 And I'm sitting there thinking, 1311 01:26:30,519 --> 01:26:33,318 "Ah, I'm a civilian noncombatant." 1312 01:26:33,438 --> 01:26:36,692 I tried that line on Beckwith and he said, 1313 01:26:36,817 --> 01:26:39,616 "Ain't no such thing in these mountains, son." 1314 01:26:39,778 --> 01:26:43,828 For nearly a week, the North Vietnamese launched assault 1315 01:26:43,949 --> 01:26:46,577 after assault on Plei Me. 1316 01:26:46,702 --> 01:26:50,878 It was only after American bombs and napalm 1317 01:26:50,997 --> 01:26:54,092 turned the surrounding terrain into a moonscape 1318 01:26:54,209 --> 01:26:57,258 that the enemy withdrew. 1319 01:26:57,379 --> 01:27:01,259 What kind of fighters are the Viet Cong that you met here? 1320 01:27:01,383 --> 01:27:07,106 I would give anything to have 200 of them under my command. 1321 01:27:07,222 --> 01:27:09,099 They're the finest soldiers I've ever seen. 1322 01:27:09,224 --> 01:27:10,396 The Viet Cong. 1323 01:27:10,517 --> 01:27:11,814 That's right. 1324 01:27:11,935 --> 01:27:13,621 They're dedicated, and they're good soldiers. 1325 01:27:13,645 --> 01:27:15,022 They're the best I've ever seen. 1326 01:27:18,024 --> 01:27:21,028 Despite the losses his men had suffered at Plei Me, 1327 01:27:21,153 --> 01:27:24,498 the North Vietnamese commander, General Chu Huy Man, 1328 01:27:24,614 --> 01:27:26,491 was eager for another confrontation 1329 01:27:26,616 --> 01:27:28,334 with the Americans. 1330 01:27:28,493 --> 01:27:31,918 He was determined to learn how to fight them. 1331 01:27:32,038 --> 01:27:35,338 Reinforcements streaming down the Ho Chi Minh Trail 1332 01:27:35,459 --> 01:27:37,507 to the Ia Drang Valley included 1333 01:27:37,669 --> 01:27:41,765 a newly minted second lieutenant, Lo Khac Tam, 1334 01:27:41,882 --> 01:27:45,011 who had volunteered to fight in the South. 1335 01:28:06,656 --> 01:28:09,500 On the morning of November 14, 1965, 1336 01:28:09,618 --> 01:28:13,714 1st Cavalry helicopters belonging to the 1st Battalion 1337 01:28:13,872 --> 01:28:15,920 of the 7th Regiment... 1338 01:28:16,041 --> 01:28:18,840 George Armstrong Custer's old outfit... 1339 01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:22,555 flew west along the Ia Drang toward the Chu Pong Massif, 1340 01:28:22,714 --> 01:28:24,557 looking for the enemy. 1341 01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:30,060 Their commander, Kentucky-born Korean-War veteran 1342 01:28:30,180 --> 01:28:32,228 Lieutenant Colonel Hal Moore, 1343 01:28:32,390 --> 01:28:34,984 had been told there was a large enemy base camp 1344 01:28:35,101 --> 01:28:36,899 somewhere on its slopes. 1345 01:28:37,020 --> 01:28:40,741 His orders were to take his understrength outfit... 1346 01:28:40,857 --> 01:28:47,411 29 officers and just 411 men... find the enemy and kill him. 1347 01:28:47,531 --> 01:28:51,456 There were two clearings large enough for Moore to bring in 1348 01:28:51,576 --> 01:28:53,453 eight choppers at once. 1349 01:28:53,578 --> 01:28:58,505 He chose the one closest to the mountain-Landing Zone X-Ray. 1350 01:29:02,087 --> 01:29:05,432 Moore made a point of leading from the front. 1351 01:29:05,590 --> 01:29:08,264 He was the first man off the first chopper. 1352 01:29:12,806 --> 01:29:17,107 He sent four six-man squads 100 yards in every direction. 1353 01:29:17,269 --> 01:29:19,988 The Ia Drang Valley was so beautiful, 1354 01:29:20,105 --> 01:29:22,107 one soldier remembered, 1355 01:29:22,274 --> 01:29:25,278 it reminded him of a national park back home. 1356 01:29:25,443 --> 01:29:29,619 Within minutes, Moore's men captured a deserter. 1357 01:29:29,781 --> 01:29:31,158 Terrified and trembling, 1358 01:29:31,283 --> 01:29:34,082 he said there were three battalions of soldiers 1359 01:29:34,202 --> 01:29:37,752 on the mountain... 1,600 men. 1360 01:29:37,873 --> 01:29:40,626 They wanted very much to kill Americans, he said, 1361 01:29:40,792 --> 01:29:44,422 but so far had been unable to find any. 1362 01:29:44,546 --> 01:29:47,470 Moore quickly set up a command post 1363 01:29:47,591 --> 01:29:51,812 behind one of the huge termite mounds that dotted the clearing. 1364 01:29:51,970 --> 01:29:54,098 It would take until mid-afternoon 1365 01:29:54,222 --> 01:29:57,647 for all of his men to be ferried in. 1366 01:29:58,810 --> 01:30:00,687 He had no time to waste. 1367 01:30:00,812 --> 01:30:03,235 "We needed to get off the landing zone 1368 01:30:03,356 --> 01:30:07,452 and get at them before they could hit us," Moore remembered. 1369 01:30:07,569 --> 01:30:11,540 He sent two companies up the slope toward the hidden enemy. 1370 01:30:11,656 --> 01:30:15,286 Most of the North Vietnamese, like the Americans, 1371 01:30:15,410 --> 01:30:17,003 were new to combat. 1372 01:30:18,496 --> 01:30:20,749 They were ordered to fix bayonets. 1373 01:30:35,513 --> 01:30:38,266 Colonel Moore had no way of knowing 1374 01:30:38,391 --> 01:30:41,816 that instead of 1,600 enemy soldiers on the mountain, 1375 01:30:41,937 --> 01:30:47,660 there were 3,000... seven times his strength. 1376 01:31:01,873 --> 01:31:04,547 Within minutes, the Americans found themselves 1377 01:31:04,668 --> 01:31:09,048 under attack from hundreds of North Vietnamese soldiers. 1378 01:31:09,214 --> 01:31:12,684 In the fighting, an overeager second lieutenant 1379 01:31:12,801 --> 01:31:15,771 led his platoon of 28 men too far away 1380 01:31:15,887 --> 01:31:19,266 from the rest of his company and was surrounded. 1381 01:31:21,893 --> 01:31:23,486 The lieutenant was killed. 1382 01:31:23,603 --> 01:31:27,733 The sergeant who took his place was shot through the head. 1383 01:31:27,899 --> 01:31:32,405 By late afternoon, only seven of the trapped platoon's men 1384 01:31:32,529 --> 01:31:35,783 were still capable of firing back. 1385 01:31:44,457 --> 01:31:49,179 Moore was now engaged in three simultaneous struggles... 1386 01:31:49,295 --> 01:31:53,266 to defend the landing zone, attack the North Vietnamese, 1387 01:31:53,425 --> 01:31:57,271 and find a way to rescue his trapped patrol. 1388 01:32:00,223 --> 01:32:04,273 That night, Joe Galloway again managed to talk his way 1389 01:32:04,394 --> 01:32:07,113 onto a chopper taking ammunition and water 1390 01:32:07,230 --> 01:32:08,982 to the besieged Americans. 1391 01:32:09,107 --> 01:32:12,236 As the helicopter approached the battlefield, 1392 01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:14,783 Galloway was sitting on a crate of grenades, 1393 01:32:14,946 --> 01:32:18,166 peering out into the darkness. 1394 01:32:18,283 --> 01:32:23,289 And I could see these little pin pricks of light 1395 01:32:23,413 --> 01:32:25,962 coming down the mountain. 1396 01:32:26,082 --> 01:32:30,838 This was the enemy approaching for the next day's attacks. 1397 01:32:32,464 --> 01:32:35,217 We flew in there. 1398 01:32:35,341 --> 01:32:39,471 As they pulled on out, it was dead dark. 1399 01:32:39,637 --> 01:32:42,766 And we're lying there waiting for someone to come tell us 1400 01:32:42,891 --> 01:32:44,143 what to do. 1401 01:32:47,312 --> 01:32:52,239 And the next morning, all of a sudden the bottom fell out. 1402 01:32:56,654 --> 01:33:00,579 There was an explosion of fire. 1403 01:33:02,035 --> 01:33:06,506 The noise is horrendous, unimaginable. 1404 01:33:18,802 --> 01:33:21,521 And in the middle of all of this, you know, 1405 01:33:21,679 --> 01:33:24,398 I-I just flattened out on the ground 1406 01:33:24,516 --> 01:33:28,692 because all that was being fired seemed to be about two, 1407 01:33:28,853 --> 01:33:32,107 two-and-a-half feet off the ground. 1408 01:33:39,155 --> 01:33:41,874 Hundreds of enemy soldiers hurled themselves 1409 01:33:42,033 --> 01:33:43,285 at the Americans. 1410 01:33:44,828 --> 01:33:48,628 They wore webbed helmets camouflaged with grass, 1411 01:33:48,748 --> 01:33:53,549 and as they came, blowing whistles, screaming, 1412 01:33:53,711 --> 01:33:57,887 they looked like "little trees," one American remembered. 1413 01:33:58,007 --> 01:34:00,601 They were trying to overrun us. 1414 01:34:00,718 --> 01:34:02,971 And they came close. 1415 01:34:03,096 --> 01:34:05,269 They came close. 1416 01:34:21,239 --> 01:34:24,584 But we had two things going for us. 1417 01:34:25,910 --> 01:34:29,289 We had a great commander and great soldiers. 1418 01:34:29,414 --> 01:34:35,922 And we had air and artillery support out the yin-yang. 1419 01:34:36,087 --> 01:34:38,715 We had it, and they didn't. 1420 01:34:42,719 --> 01:34:47,441 But using that air and artillery support could be dangerous. 1421 01:34:47,557 --> 01:34:51,528 Each of Moore's units carefully marked its position with smoke 1422 01:34:51,644 --> 01:34:54,523 to keep from being mistaken for the enemy 1423 01:34:54,647 --> 01:34:56,900 by American airmen overhead. 1424 01:35:08,411 --> 01:35:12,416 Some 18,000 artillery shells would be called in 1425 01:35:12,540 --> 01:35:13,792 over the course of the battle, 1426 01:35:13,917 --> 01:35:18,798 some of them landing just 25 yards from Moore's own men. 1427 01:35:18,922 --> 01:35:24,349 Helicopter gunships fired 3,000 rockets into the enemy. 1428 01:35:24,469 --> 01:35:26,892 The forward air controller 1429 01:35:27,013 --> 01:35:30,517 called for every available aircraft in South Vietnam 1430 01:35:30,642 --> 01:35:32,110 to come and help. 1431 01:35:32,227 --> 01:35:37,654 Warplanes, including B-52 long-range strategic bombers, 1432 01:35:37,815 --> 01:35:41,945 were stacked at 1,000-foot intervals above the battlefield, 1433 01:35:42,070 --> 01:35:45,165 from 7,000 to 35,000 feet, 1434 01:35:45,323 --> 01:35:49,794 impatiently awaiting targets to strafe or bomb or burn. 1435 01:35:52,163 --> 01:35:56,794 "By God," Moore said, "they sent us over here to kill communists 1436 01:35:56,918 --> 01:35:58,386 and that's what we're doing." 1437 01:36:04,509 --> 01:36:06,182 I looked up... 1438 01:36:08,096 --> 01:36:15,355 and there were two jets aiming directly at our command post. 1439 01:36:15,478 --> 01:36:21,576 He's dropped two cans of napalm and it's coming toward us, 1440 01:36:21,693 --> 01:36:25,618 loblolly, end over end. 1441 01:36:25,738 --> 01:36:30,414 And these kids, two or three of 'em, plus a sergeant, 1442 01:36:30,535 --> 01:36:34,756 had dug a hole or two over on the edge. 1443 01:36:34,872 --> 01:36:39,799 And I looked as the thing exploded... 1444 01:36:43,965 --> 01:36:48,562 And two of them were dancing in that fire. 1445 01:36:48,720 --> 01:36:52,566 And there's a rush, a roar, 1446 01:36:52,682 --> 01:36:56,732 from the air that's being consumed 1447 01:36:56,853 --> 01:37:02,701 and drawn in as this-this hell come to earth 1448 01:37:02,817 --> 01:37:04,444 is burning there. 1449 01:37:04,569 --> 01:37:09,746 And as that dies back a little, then you can hear the screams. 1450 01:37:11,951 --> 01:37:16,798 And someone yells, "Get this man's feet." 1451 01:37:16,914 --> 01:37:23,798 And I reach down and the boots crumble, 1452 01:37:23,921 --> 01:37:28,017 and the flesh is cooked off of his ankles. 1453 01:37:28,134 --> 01:37:32,230 And I feel those bones in the palms of my hands. 1454 01:37:32,347 --> 01:37:35,021 I can feel it now. 1455 01:37:36,434 --> 01:37:39,028 He died two days later. 1456 01:37:39,145 --> 01:37:43,446 A kid named Jim Nakayama out of Rigby, Idaho. 1457 01:37:58,247 --> 01:38:00,796 By 10:00 that morning, 1458 01:38:00,917 --> 01:38:04,467 American airpower had beaten back the enemy assault. 1459 01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:07,974 The survivors from the trapped platoon 1460 01:38:08,132 --> 01:38:10,134 were rescued that afternoon. 1461 01:38:10,259 --> 01:38:13,980 They had been pinned to the ground and under fire 1462 01:38:14,138 --> 01:38:16,857 for so long that they had to be coaxed 1463 01:38:16,974 --> 01:38:19,193 into getting to their feet again. 1464 01:38:25,858 --> 01:38:27,860 On the morning of the next day, 1465 01:38:27,985 --> 01:38:31,364 enemy soldiers hurled themselves against the same sector 1466 01:38:31,489 --> 01:38:34,584 of Moore's line four more times 1467 01:38:34,700 --> 01:38:38,079 and were obliterated by artillery and machine gun fire. 1468 01:38:40,331 --> 01:38:43,050 The surviving North Vietnamese and Viet Cong 1469 01:38:43,167 --> 01:38:45,169 withdrew into the forest, 1470 01:38:45,294 --> 01:38:48,173 leaving behind a ghastly ring of their dead 1471 01:38:48,339 --> 01:38:50,091 surrounding the landing zone... 1472 01:38:50,216 --> 01:38:56,519 634 corpses, shot, blasted, blackened by fire. 1473 01:39:22,206 --> 01:39:25,050 After three days and two nights of combat, 1474 01:39:25,209 --> 01:39:28,338 helicopters began lifting out the American survivors 1475 01:39:28,463 --> 01:39:31,307 and gathering up the dead. 1476 01:39:31,424 --> 01:39:33,051 When you look at them, 1477 01:39:33,217 --> 01:39:36,346 it doesn't even resemble a human body. 1478 01:39:36,471 --> 01:39:39,600 It just, it looks just like a mannequin. 1479 01:39:39,724 --> 01:39:42,568 You look at them and say, "That couldn't happen to me." 1480 01:39:45,438 --> 01:39:48,408 I saw them fight at Ia Drang. 1481 01:39:48,566 --> 01:39:51,536 It always galls me when I read or hear 1482 01:39:51,652 --> 01:39:53,746 about the World War II generation 1483 01:39:53,863 --> 01:39:55,615 as the greatest generation. 1484 01:39:55,740 --> 01:39:58,664 These kids were just as gallant and as courageous 1485 01:39:58,784 --> 01:40:00,957 as anybody who fought in World War II. 1486 01:40:02,580 --> 01:40:05,379 Seventy-nine of Hal Moore's men lost their lives 1487 01:40:05,500 --> 01:40:08,925 at Landing Zone X-Ray in the Ia Drang Valley 1488 01:40:09,045 --> 01:40:14,267 and another 121 were wounded. 1489 01:40:14,425 --> 01:40:17,770 Please convey to the American people 1490 01:40:17,887 --> 01:40:21,983 what a tremendous fighting man we have here. 1491 01:40:22,099 --> 01:40:27,447 He's courageous, he's aggressive, and he's kind. 1492 01:40:27,605 --> 01:40:31,326 And he'll go where you tell him to go. 1493 01:40:31,442 --> 01:40:33,945 And he's got self-discipline. 1494 01:40:34,070 --> 01:40:37,290 And he's got good unit discipline. 1495 01:40:37,448 --> 01:40:39,621 He's just an outstanding man. 1496 01:40:39,742 --> 01:40:41,210 And... 1497 01:40:42,787 --> 01:40:45,711 Having commanded this battalion for 18 months... 1498 01:40:48,501 --> 01:40:50,344 You must excuse my emotion here, 1499 01:40:50,461 --> 01:40:55,968 but when I see some of these men go out the way they have... 1500 01:41:03,683 --> 01:41:05,685 I haven't... 1501 01:41:05,810 --> 01:41:08,108 I can't tell you how highly I feel for them. 1502 01:41:08,229 --> 01:41:10,823 They're tremendous. 1503 01:41:10,982 --> 01:41:13,201 Hal Moore refused to leave 1504 01:41:13,317 --> 01:41:17,914 until every single man in his command had been accounted for. 1505 01:41:18,030 --> 01:41:23,127 He had been the first of his men to step onto Landing Zone X-Ray, 1506 01:41:23,244 --> 01:41:26,498 and he made sure he was the last to leave it. 1507 01:42:03,534 --> 01:42:06,083 The North Vietnamese suffered terrible losses 1508 01:42:06,203 --> 01:42:07,625 in the Ia Drang Valley 1509 01:42:07,747 --> 01:42:11,377 and many of the survivors were traumatized. 1510 01:42:11,542 --> 01:42:15,137 "The units were enveloped in an atmosphere of gloom," 1511 01:42:15,254 --> 01:42:17,222 a North Vietnamese colonel remembered. 1512 01:42:17,340 --> 01:42:21,595 Some men would not leave their rope hammocks. 1513 01:42:21,719 --> 01:42:23,687 Some refused to wash. 1514 01:42:23,804 --> 01:42:28,981 One soldier wrote a poem expressive of their plight: 1515 01:42:29,101 --> 01:42:31,729 "The crab lies still on the chopping block... 1516 01:42:31,896 --> 01:42:35,901 Never knowing when the knife will fall." 1517 01:42:41,656 --> 01:42:47,334 In the Ia Drang we killed ten of them for every one of us. 1518 01:42:49,080 --> 01:42:53,210 That's a ten-to-one kill ratio is how the military puts that. 1519 01:42:56,671 --> 01:43:02,929 But the enemy, he was fully prepared to pay that price 1520 01:43:03,094 --> 01:43:07,440 and more for the value of the lessons he learned. 1521 01:43:23,197 --> 01:43:26,201 Grab 'em by the belt buckle. 1522 01:43:26,325 --> 01:43:29,670 That means you've got to get so close, 1523 01:43:29,787 --> 01:43:36,295 they can't use the artillery and the aerial bombardments on you 1524 01:43:36,460 --> 01:43:38,838 for fear of killing their own. 1525 01:43:38,963 --> 01:43:43,810 Get in so close that it's man-on-man. 1526 01:43:43,926 --> 01:43:46,975 And then everything is even. 1527 01:43:48,222 --> 01:43:51,692 The Vietnamese suffered hundreds of dead 1528 01:43:51,809 --> 01:43:54,653 attacking Hal Moore's battalion at LZ X-Ray. 1529 01:43:54,770 --> 01:44:00,402 But then they ambushed another battalion a couple of days later 1530 01:44:00,526 --> 01:44:03,700 and wiped it out. 1531 01:44:03,821 --> 01:44:06,370 In the fighting near Landing Zone Albany, 1532 01:44:06,490 --> 01:44:10,370 the enemy had gotten too close for artillery to be called in. 1533 01:44:11,829 --> 01:44:18,053 Out of some 425 Americans involved, 155 were killed. 1534 01:44:18,169 --> 01:44:22,766 124 more were wounded. 1535 01:44:22,882 --> 01:44:27,683 Both sides claimed victory in the Ia Drang Valley. 1536 01:44:27,845 --> 01:44:30,519 The Americans talked up the number of enemy dead 1537 01:44:30,681 --> 01:44:32,228 at Landing Zone X-Ray. 1538 01:44:32,349 --> 01:44:34,477 The ratio of losses to your kill... 1539 01:44:36,020 --> 01:44:38,022 The North Vietnamese took their lessons 1540 01:44:38,189 --> 01:44:40,283 from Landing Zone Albany. 1541 01:44:47,531 --> 01:44:49,875 I don't anticipate 1542 01:44:50,034 --> 01:44:55,382 that this conflict will end any time soon, 1543 01:44:55,539 --> 01:45:00,045 and we could find that we have more difficult days ahead. 1544 01:45:00,211 --> 01:45:02,885 Certainly we must be prepared for this. 1545 01:45:10,721 --> 01:45:15,522 In the fall of my senior year, November 1965, 1546 01:45:15,643 --> 01:45:18,943 was that huge battle at the Ia Drang Valley, 1547 01:45:19,063 --> 01:45:21,942 which was the first time there was actually confirmed 1548 01:45:22,066 --> 01:45:24,444 North Vietnamese regular soldiers as opposed 1549 01:45:24,568 --> 01:45:26,195 to Viet Cong. 1550 01:45:26,320 --> 01:45:29,199 And of course my way of interpreting that was, 1551 01:45:29,323 --> 01:45:30,791 "There it is, that's the proof. 1552 01:45:30,908 --> 01:45:32,785 The North Vietnamese are the aggressors here." 1553 01:45:32,910 --> 01:45:37,290 And that's when I began thinking in terms of 1554 01:45:37,414 --> 01:45:39,792 maybe I don't want to go to college right away. 1555 01:45:39,917 --> 01:45:43,091 Maybe I'll join the Marines. 1556 01:45:43,254 --> 01:45:44,397 And it was always the Marines. 1557 01:45:44,421 --> 01:45:46,139 I never... there was no question. 1558 01:45:46,257 --> 01:45:47,901 The Marine Corps is full of little guys like me 1559 01:45:47,925 --> 01:45:49,142 with chips on our shoulder. 1560 01:45:50,803 --> 01:45:53,101 # The eastern world, it is explodin'. # 1561 01:45:53,264 --> 01:45:56,108 The battles in the Ia Drang Valley may have been declared 1562 01:45:56,267 --> 01:46:00,397 American victories, but privately, General Westmoreland 1563 01:46:00,521 --> 01:46:03,616 and the Johnson administration were worried. 1564 01:46:03,732 --> 01:46:07,202 In spite of the Americans' new airborne mobility, 1565 01:46:07,319 --> 01:46:09,742 the enemy had been able to choose 1566 01:46:09,864 --> 01:46:12,538 the place and time of battle. 1567 01:46:12,658 --> 01:46:16,128 The intelligence on which basic decisions had been made 1568 01:46:16,287 --> 01:46:20,633 in Washington had been uniformly bad. 1569 01:46:20,749 --> 01:46:23,753 There were now believed to be 12 Viet Cong regiments 1570 01:46:23,878 --> 01:46:26,597 in South Vietnam, not just five; 1571 01:46:26,714 --> 01:46:30,059 nine North Vietnamese regiments, not three. 1572 01:46:31,302 --> 01:46:33,054 Despite months of bombing, 1573 01:46:33,178 --> 01:46:35,897 three times as many North Vietnamese regulars 1574 01:46:36,015 --> 01:46:39,519 were now slipping south of the demilitarized zone 1575 01:46:39,643 --> 01:46:41,987 as originally believed. 1576 01:46:42,104 --> 01:46:46,280 Hanoi seemed to be escalating, too. 1577 01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:50,576 And American casualties were climbing. 1578 01:46:50,696 --> 01:46:53,825 When Senator Fritz Hollings visited Saigon 1579 01:46:53,991 --> 01:46:56,369 shortly after the Ia Drang battles, 1580 01:46:56,493 --> 01:47:00,168 General Westmoreland told him, "We're killing these people 1581 01:47:00,289 --> 01:47:02,417 at a rate of ten to one." 1582 01:47:02,541 --> 01:47:03,838 Hollings warned him, 1583 01:47:04,001 --> 01:47:07,505 "Westy, the American people don't care about the ten. 1584 01:47:07,671 --> 01:47:09,673 They care about the one." 1585 01:47:11,634 --> 01:47:14,353 Westmoreland, who had said he could win the war 1586 01:47:14,470 --> 01:47:18,395 in three years, now sent an urgent cable to Washington 1587 01:47:18,515 --> 01:47:21,359 asking for 200,000 more troops. 1588 01:47:21,518 --> 01:47:23,520 # Yeah, my blood's so mad... # 1589 01:47:23,646 --> 01:47:26,195 "The message came as a shattering blow," 1590 01:47:26,315 --> 01:47:28,409 Robert McNamara remembered. 1591 01:47:28,525 --> 01:47:33,531 Once again, he offered Johnson two options: 1592 01:47:33,656 --> 01:47:36,830 try to negotiate a compromise with Hanoi, 1593 01:47:36,951 --> 01:47:40,546 or accede to Westmoreland's request for more men, 1594 01:47:40,663 --> 01:47:43,883 though the chances of victory, the secretary of defense said, 1595 01:47:44,041 --> 01:47:48,091 might be no better than one in three. 1596 01:47:48,212 --> 01:47:50,886 And then they all sat down 1597 01:47:51,048 --> 01:47:53,892 and voted for option two. 1598 01:47:54,009 --> 01:47:55,886 # Over and over and over... # 1599 01:47:56,053 --> 01:48:00,103 My bitterness about the political powers at the time 1600 01:48:00,224 --> 01:48:05,071 was, first of all, the lying. 1601 01:48:05,187 --> 01:48:08,532 I mean, I can understand a policy error 1602 01:48:08,649 --> 01:48:11,243 that is incredibly, incredibly painful 1603 01:48:11,360 --> 01:48:13,283 and kills a lot of people out of a mistake 1604 01:48:13,404 --> 01:48:16,499 if they made that with noble hearts. 1605 01:48:16,615 --> 01:48:18,959 That was, you know, when Eisenhower and Kennedy 1606 01:48:19,076 --> 01:48:21,625 were trying to figure things out. 1607 01:48:21,745 --> 01:48:25,966 And you read that, you know, McNamara knew by '65... 1608 01:48:26,083 --> 01:48:27,881 it was just three years before I was there... 1609 01:48:28,002 --> 01:48:29,219 that the war was unwinnable. 1610 01:48:29,336 --> 01:48:31,134 That's what makes me mad. 1611 01:48:31,255 --> 01:48:33,428 Making a mistake, people can do that. 1612 01:48:33,590 --> 01:48:35,217 But covering up mistakes, 1613 01:48:35,342 --> 01:48:39,472 then you're killing people for your own ego. 1614 01:48:39,596 --> 01:48:42,770 And that makes me mad. 1615 01:48:44,935 --> 01:48:46,496 Tens of thousands of American troops 1616 01:48:46,520 --> 01:48:50,366 continued to prepare to deploy to Vietnam 1617 01:48:50,482 --> 01:48:51,574 from all over the country, 1618 01:48:51,692 --> 01:48:55,117 and General Westmoreland and his commanders 1619 01:48:55,237 --> 01:48:57,285 drew up plans for major offensives 1620 01:48:57,448 --> 01:49:00,497 in the new year of 1966. 1621 01:49:04,371 --> 01:49:07,841 Meanwhile, hoping the Soviets might help bring Hanoi 1622 01:49:07,958 --> 01:49:11,804 to the bargaining table, McNamara urged the president 1623 01:49:11,962 --> 01:49:16,092 to declare a halt to the bombing of North Vietnam. 1624 01:49:16,216 --> 01:49:18,719 Over the objections of the military, 1625 01:49:18,844 --> 01:49:21,472 who worried it would give the enemy time to rebuild 1626 01:49:21,638 --> 01:49:25,859 its defenses, Johnson agreed to stop the bombing 1627 01:49:25,976 --> 01:49:28,695 on Christmas Eve. 1628 01:49:28,812 --> 01:49:30,940 If it achieved nothing else, he said, 1629 01:49:31,065 --> 01:49:33,238 it would show the American people 1630 01:49:33,358 --> 01:49:36,658 that before he committed more of their sons to battle, 1631 01:49:36,820 --> 01:49:39,824 "We have gone the last mile." 1632 01:49:43,243 --> 01:49:48,670 Well, Christmas always meant a great deal in our family. 1633 01:49:48,832 --> 01:49:53,178 We sent packages to Denton, of course. 1634 01:49:53,337 --> 01:49:55,339 Then a neighbor mentioned to me 1635 01:49:55,506 --> 01:49:59,886 that she heard a local television station was offering 1636 01:50:00,010 --> 01:50:03,810 free tapes to be made to send to a soldier overseas. 1637 01:50:03,931 --> 01:50:08,562 We dressed up for the cameras. 1638 01:50:08,685 --> 01:50:11,438 The idea was that we would each just say something 1639 01:50:11,563 --> 01:50:14,692 about what we were doing and wish him well. 1640 01:50:16,902 --> 01:50:19,371 It was a horrible day for me. 1641 01:50:19,530 --> 01:50:24,411 It made it so real that he was far away. 1642 01:50:24,535 --> 01:50:27,789 Well, Mogie, here we are. 1643 01:50:27,913 --> 01:50:31,588 It's... let's see what day is today. 1644 01:50:31,708 --> 01:50:32,880 Here it is, Saturday... 1645 01:50:33,043 --> 01:50:34,043 November 13. 1646 01:50:34,086 --> 01:50:36,180 November 13, 1647 01:50:36,296 --> 01:50:41,348 and station WTEN has given us a chance to talk to you. 1648 01:50:41,468 --> 01:50:43,891 We all wish you a Merry Christmas 1649 01:50:44,054 --> 01:50:45,226 to start out with. 1650 01:50:46,723 --> 01:50:49,067 Rand, what do you got to say to Mogie? 1651 01:50:49,226 --> 01:50:51,570 Merry Christmas. 1652 01:50:53,522 --> 01:50:54,739 Merry Christmas, darling. 1653 01:50:54,857 --> 01:50:56,074 We sent your packages 1654 01:50:56,233 --> 01:50:58,044 and there's one that's waiting for you at home. 1655 01:50:58,068 --> 01:50:59,661 It's a record of fife and drum music 1656 01:50:59,778 --> 01:51:02,281 that we got for you at Williamsburg. 1657 01:51:02,406 --> 01:51:03,406 Candy? 1658 01:51:05,242 --> 01:51:10,920 My teacher isn't very nice, and she always is crabby, 1659 01:51:11,081 --> 01:51:13,425 and I don't like school at all. 1660 01:51:13,584 --> 01:51:15,461 Now I'm a brownie. 1661 01:51:15,586 --> 01:51:17,133 Merry Christmas. 1662 01:51:18,714 --> 01:51:19,931 Happy Christmas, Mogie. 1663 01:51:20,090 --> 01:51:21,808 I think I'm getting new skis for Christmas. 1664 01:51:21,925 --> 01:51:23,927 So when you get home, we can get together sometime. 1665 01:51:24,094 --> 01:51:27,519 We do all wish you a very Merry Christmas, 1666 01:51:27,639 --> 01:51:29,812 and we'll be thinking of you on Christmas Day. 1667 01:51:32,769 --> 01:51:34,489 We miss you, sweetheart. 1668 01:51:36,565 --> 01:51:40,615 # Me and my drum. # 1669 01:52:00,088 --> 01:52:04,639 # To everything, turn, turn, turn # 1670 01:52:04,760 --> 01:52:09,391 # There is a season, turn, turn, turn # 1671 01:52:09,514 --> 01:52:15,487 # And a time to every purpose under heaven # 1672 01:52:17,356 --> 01:52:22,157 # A time to be born, a time to die # 1673 01:52:22,319 --> 01:52:24,788 # A time to plant, a time to reap # 1674 01:52:24,905 --> 01:52:28,660 # A time to kill, a time to heal # 1675 01:52:28,784 --> 01:52:36,089 # A time to laugh, a time to weep # 1676 01:52:36,208 --> 01:52:41,385 # To everything, turn, turn, turn # 1677 01:52:41,505 --> 01:52:46,682 # There is a season, turn, turn, turn # 1678 01:52:46,802 --> 01:52:52,354 # And a time to every purpose under heaven # 1679 01:52:54,184 --> 01:52:57,905 # A time to build up, a time to break down # 1680 01:52:58,021 --> 01:53:02,492 # A time to dance, a time to mourn # 1681 01:53:02,609 --> 01:53:05,954 # A time to cast away stones # 1682 01:53:06,071 --> 01:53:11,874 # A time to gather stones together # 1683 01:53:13,662 --> 01:53:18,839 # To everything, turn, turn, turn # 1684 01:53:18,959 --> 01:53:24,056 # There is a season, turn, turn, turn # 1685 01:53:24,172 --> 01:53:29,645 # And a time to every purpose under heaven # 1686 01:53:31,722 --> 01:53:35,272 # A time of love, a time of hate # 1687 01:53:35,392 --> 01:53:40,523 # A time of war, a time of peace # 1688 01:53:40,647 --> 01:53:43,321 # A time you may embrace # 1689 01:53:43,442 --> 01:53:49,745 # A time to refrain from embracing # 1690 01:53:51,283 --> 01:53:56,039 # To everything, turn, turn, turn # 1691 01:53:56,163 --> 01:54:01,135 # There is a season, turn, turn, turn # 1692 01:54:01,251 --> 01:54:07,133 # And a time to every purpose under heaven # 1693 01:54:09,384 --> 01:54:12,854 # A time to gain, a time to lose # 1694 01:54:12,971 --> 01:54:16,851 # A time to rend, a time to sew # 1695 01:54:16,975 --> 01:54:20,900 # A time for love, a time for hate # 1696 01:54:21,021 --> 01:54:27,279 # A time for peace, I swear it's not too late. # 136232

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