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Whatever else
Tag Driver is or isnt...
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alt IS a Kine Of documentary OF
what New York looked like in 1975.
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Ane! tats the thing that movies cio.
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‘ihey are= They can be a kind off
archeology of the recent past.
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And that's a very vallualole tring
tat movies can do,
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ANlimost just like still plrotos,
you know, used to be.
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You cai say that with Jax Driver.
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YOu cain say, “Iinat's wnat
Times Square oncs looked like.”
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And that's very useful and a kind of
permanent thing that movies do.
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And it's not given= Iney re not nearly
given credit in a way for that.
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Im te “70s, New York
WASHAISINSESOMMOMmMaClie
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It was reallly scummy and awiull
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In tie “70s
anc when | came into oifice...
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Lo JIMES Square was squalid...
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L.crime-ridoien
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PoMo Stores Everywhere,
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And thie taxis On the major lock...
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which was /ti Avenue to
Stn Avenue on 42nd Sirect...
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, wrought in a total of SS million
in real estate taxes...
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L..
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Well, you have to uncderstane
pomograplhy...
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L Wiich es een Wit US SINGS...
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Lt OmMmpell. YOU Cain go to Pompelll
that was destroyed in Italy...
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and you'll tine pomograpnic tigures
that they point out to.
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Tihnen you have lots of people
who look at pornography.
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But it IS not healiiny
for families anc tor chilcren
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When | tirst went to New York.J
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2S 4 teenager In 1993...
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Las 2 ireshimean gt Columioig...
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Lo IIMeS Square was scummy
and awful, | remember.
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Burt Kt also had 2 whole series of
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One WincEISicem@ennolexsenics
Of Movie theaters...
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--WiNere YOU Could see Movies
for 2 quarter.
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Ane you could see a movie
for 2 quarter.
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| may be wrong, but | don't think so
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It was something like 25 cents
during the day.
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And then go to There was a couple
of litte hamburger stands...
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-AWASFS YOU Could have a leer,
namlourger for less than a dollar:
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Aen Go see another movie. You can
soend the day seeing moviés...
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and have lunch tor
2, © dollars.
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And that was || mean,
| saw hundreds of movies there.
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Because kk WAS Siralght cown
we WR
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| irom 116 Street to 42nc Street
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Ane! tt WAS VErY MUGA
my education of movies was there.
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The GAasesy Movie theaters
on 42nc Sigecst ana the sort Of.
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.Cneesy bars where
you could eat and drink.
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And | miss that. Yeala, | tank,
that’s too bad, just not for me.
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At my age, though,
| dont need that anymore:
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Burt | tiink its too load that
they don't have that anymore.
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You know, and tie Disneyrication
of Times Square is awful.
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‘The Disneytication of alll
of Manhattan is ayyviul.
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BECAUSS WS Changed Mt.
And I'n proud of the fact...
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L lat It WaS My administration...
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_ .Uiat created the plan
fOMmUleKenancges
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And we were unalle to
implement the plan...
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OSCAUSS PSOple lorouginy
47 lawsuits to Stop US...
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LANA Itt took 10 years.
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Ane we won every one
of the lawsuits.
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But in 10 years,
the economics changed.
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So there weren't tenants
willing to come in.
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And that changed again uncer...
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avid DINKINS.
One of the last things he did...
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Sore leaving office
Was to assign leases with Disney.
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Burt the nature of the businesses
nasnenanoeds
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Ane! SO tie Pormo Shops, loasicallly,
| think there are still a couple there,
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Ane Giuliani led the tight on that.
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It was almost totally successtul...
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ool SlIMINEING tiem.
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But today, It IS a place...
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Or families to Come In total satiety.
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And tor incividuals
looking for a good time,
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exactly a hymn to New York...
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, SCAUSS It'S pretty unpleasant,
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But we felt tree to just sort of
De tere in New York.
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And tloat around the way Godarel
floated around in Paris.
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Ane! Raoul Coutared, oy the way,
floated! arouncl in Paris.
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Where is no Godare without Raoul
Coutard, | wanna put in a...
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--AIUG TOr ONE Of te
great cameramen of the world..4
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and Of tine Alstory OF cinenia.
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Ane! there certainly would be-
‘Those Godard movies...
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WOUldAt Exist
witout Raoul Coutarel
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Ane! l'ia HO Raoul Coutare,
[ hasten to saly.
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But | Got trom lim that freedom.
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And trom Godard, that treecdom
you cain just Go out there...
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and turn the camera on
and look at that city.
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‘That city will give you that stutr,
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| mean, look att those shots oF people
in Times Square...
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ine hookers and the people.
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You Know, we just aimed the camera
and the city did the acting...
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ald tie directing, cic everything.
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‘Sorry, Mariy, | don"t mean
did the directing.
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But you know wheat | mean.
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KOCK: Ihe movie Jax Driver
was a magnificent movie.
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OlMUNE KIN ZOMNE WAKone
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But we have a seamy side,
as well as a glorious side.
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Anal tie latter is tar olgger
than the former.
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And || enjoyed
the picture immensely,
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New York City iis tine...
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L006 Of God's eye.
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In the SASS that we're so lucky
that we live jere.
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That's why everyloody
Wants to come lnere.
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I's the place of opportunity.
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Sod bless New York City.
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