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# All we do is hide away
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# All we do is,
All we do is hide away
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# All we do is lie in wait
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# All we do is,
All we do is lie in wait
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# I have been upside down
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# I don't wanna be
the right way round
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โช Can't find paradise
on the ground โช
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She said she found it.
A bottle of vodka?
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I said, "Like you found the
20 quid in my wallet last week?"
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What did she say to that? She said she
wished it was me that left instead of Mum.
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Nice If I tried to ground her
she'd make my life hell.
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Oh, mate, I'd like to say it gets
better but you've got two girls.
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It just gets much, much worse.
Oh, fabulous
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Morning, everyone. Morning.
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Morning, everyone. Morning.
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OK. Listen up, everyone.
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So, yesterday evening we ran
the name 'James Sullivan'
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through missing persons records
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and very quickly we found
a 17-year-old man of that name,
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who was reported missing
in November 1976.
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Jimmy, as he called himself,
was reported missing by his mum,
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who I spoke to briefly
on the phone last night.
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I told her I wanted to come up
to Liverpool, where she lives.
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To take a DNA swab,
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so that we could make
a formal identification
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of remains that we believe
to be of her son.
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39 years after she last saw him.
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She cried like a child at this news.
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As did I, as she told me
how she'd missed her boy -
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it's her only child -
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for every hour of every day of
every week since she last saw him.
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So I'm gonna find who caused a pain
that's very much alive today,
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who took his life, who took hers...
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and I want to punish them.
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39 years later.
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Your associates here, did you do
your full due diligence on them?
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They have the money, Dad.
It's all kosher.
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Oh, I'm sure they have the money.
It's just...
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..I can't do business with them.
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Why, because they're Turkish?
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No.
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Because they're criminals.
They're not criminals.
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They or their associates are
mixed in up illegal activity.
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There is no way I can do
business with them. Ever.
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I'm sorry.
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It's... It's just your name, Dad.
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That's all they want
on the letterhead.
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Just give me a break here, please.
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We all feel the same.
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But there's nothing more to say.
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Right. So, we're concentrating
on five main lines of enquiry.
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Firstly, family. As just said,
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the boss is driving up to Liverpool
to speak to his mum.
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Try and get a sense of
who Jimmy was,
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how he lived his life
in the years before his death.
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Jake? We wanna know anything and
everything about 27 Arlingham Place.
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From its incarnation as a hostel
in 1972
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up to the point it shut
in the late '90s.
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Kaz? Trace uniform and CID
who covered that patch in the '70s.
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There should be plenty of 'em
still with us.
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Was Jimmy Sullivan known to them?
Which residents were known to them?
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Murray, there are several
missing person report files on him,
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the first one from 1976.
Follow up on those.
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Finally, we need to chase up the
names and numbers from this diary.
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First up, Jo-Jo.
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Is it a man? Is it a woman?
Friend, girlfriend? We need to know.
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I want everyone to take
a copy of these names
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and run them past whoever
whoever you speak to.
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These are our tangible connections
to the past and to Jimmy Sullivan.
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Let's start making connections.
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OK, good stuff. Thanks, guys.
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You OK, boss?
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He'd only be a few years older
than me.
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All the life we've lived.
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Yo, Curtis. All right?
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Head down, innit?
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Have a choke, man.
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Help them old brain cells.
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Maybe next time.
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What... She your bitch now?
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Don't never trust them mudsharks,
fam.
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Morning. Morning.
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OK. 'Fe'.
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Iron.
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I have custard creams,
rich tea and digestives.
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Thank you so much. You didn't
have to go to all that trouble.
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Well, I thought I'd better
get a choice
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because the cornershop has gone now,
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and it is a ten-minute walk
to Tesco's.
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Oh, you had me at custard creams.
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Have you kids yourself?
Er, yeah, two.
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Oh, they're grown-up now.
Both at college.
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I only erm,
see them when they want,
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you know, money or their erm,
their clothes washed.
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There's no word for it, you know?
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Single mother who's lost
her only child.
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It's like...
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no word would be enough.
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Cos I mean, what are you, you know?
What's the point of you?
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It is him, isn't it?
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We'll know for sure when
we've done the DNA match but...
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..I think it's pretty likely it is.
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Yes.
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I'm so sorry.
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No, no, no. I want it to be him.
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I want it so much to be him.
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I got us a plot at St Matthews.
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I just want us to be able
to be together again.
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How much was in there?
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'All the money from the disco
last night.'
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Drinks, ticket money, about ยฃ1,200.
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Ooh, Sheila.
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'I normally take it home but my
car's still in the bloody garage!'
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And I never use the bus
if I've got takings.
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And anyway, I thought, you know...
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But this is their money,
the estate's.
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Why would anyone want to steal
their own money?
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Have you phoned the police?
'Been and gone.'
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'But really,
what are they going to do?'
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I don't think there's CCTV footage
and it's not exactly Brink's-MAT,
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so... 'Oh, Lord, Sheila!
I'm really very sorry.'
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so... 'Oh, Lord, Sheila!
'Yes, well, I'll call you later.'
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I met his father in 1959.
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He'd come over from Barbados
after the war.
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I was just 15.
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When I fell pregnant,
my parents disowned me.
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But Thomas....
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..he agreed to marry me.
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Turns out it was the last
nice thing he ever did.
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Pretty soon,
the only thing that gave him
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any more pleasure
than drinking was...
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beating me.
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When Jimmy got older, beating him.
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And so I drank - too much.
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To blot it all out.
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And one day I came home from work...
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..Jimmy was gone.
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He left a note.
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He'd gone to London to find work
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and he would send money
to help me escape.
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Which, bless his beautiful heart,
he did.
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And then one day
the letters just stopped.
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And I waited.
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I waited, even though I knew...
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I had this instinct,
I had this dread
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that something very, very bad
had happened.
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And after about four months,
I think it was,
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I went down to London,
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and I told the police.
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They asked me had we had a row,
and I said no.
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They asked me about his father,
and I told them about that,
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and they said maybe that's
what it was, and I said...
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no.
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No matter what his father
was like...
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Jimmy always loved me.
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So they told me not to worry,
that he'd turn up,
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"like a bad penny,"
one of them said.
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And I said...
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he wasn't bad.
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Ever.
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So I kept waiting and waiting.
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But because he'd sort of
run away once,
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they decided that's
what he'd done again.
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Even though I told them...
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..Jimmy wouldn't have
done that to me.
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Because he loved me.
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And I was right.
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Wasn't I?
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Yes. You were.
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Well, we moved in here in '72.
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Right? 'There's no-one
in our family by that name.'
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Right, and no post ever arrive
for a similar name,
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Elizabeth, Betty, Liz?
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Nah, but I mean, I could ask my mum.
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She did take in a few lodgers
when I went to poly.
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Yeah, when was that?
'That would've been '75 to '78.'
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Well, that would sort of fit.
I mean, I can't promise anything.
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She's in a home now,
not in the best of health,
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but I could try. I would really
appreciate that, Mr Leeming.
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'All right, I'll get back to you.'
Thanks. Yeah, speak to you soon.
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Cheers. Bye.
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Ah. Good afternoon. DCI Kendrick?
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I haven't been called that
in a while. Who's askin'?
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DC Karen Willets.
Bishop Street nick.
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I wondered if you could
spare five minutes?
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Need to pick your brains
about a case we're working on.
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Well, I was gonna slit my wrists
in front of Cook Me The Money but...
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seeing as you're so pretty...
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..come in and pick away, love.
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Some of these lads, you know,
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not much older than Jimmy was
before he died.
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And I've seen them over the years
on the telly.
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And I think of the things
they've done and...
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..and the life.
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It's not just the obvious things,
you know, the...
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birthdays, the christenings,
the weddings.
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It's the little things your friends
tell you about their kids.
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The cheap holiday
Malky got online and...
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the funny video Jason's little girl
made for the YouTube.
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So much life one person can create,
Mrs Stuart.
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And I'm gonna do everything I can
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to find whoever stole that
from you, Maureen.
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Everything I can.
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What?
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Frankie C.
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Rings a bell?
Well, it might if it's the same one.
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Who?
I think the 'C' stands for 'Cross'.
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When he started making
a bit of money,
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started using his middle name
'Phillip'.
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The 'Sir' was still a few years off.
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That's Sir Phillip Cross?
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He certainly called himself
'Frank' or 'Frankie C'.
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And how did you know him?
He was just a face on the street.
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Ran a stall down Chapel Market.
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Cocky little runt.
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I think he might've briefly
been a driver for the Fenwicks.
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Who are the Fenwicks?
North London firm.
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Protection, prostitution,
loan-sharking.
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So he might have form? Not sure
having form is a requirement
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for being a government
business tsar, is it?
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So I doubt very much if he ever
got pulled for anything. Right.
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But listen,
the Fenwicks were nasty bastards.
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Not many people worked for them
for any length of time...
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..without having to do some pretty
horrible stuff themselves so...
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..he might not have got pulled...
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..but doesn't mean
he didn't do stuff, does it?
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'What d'you reckon?'
I'm watching him on the box now.
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Yeah, worth a chat, definitely.
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And I emailed you some stuff
on the Fenwick family, as well.
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Yeah, great. Thanks.
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'So how was Liverpool?'
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Good. You know...
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Sad but I think I've got
some really useful stuff.
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I just need to go through it
properly.
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But listen, long day.
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Thanks for all this, Sunny.
Really, really good work.
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'Night, guv.'
I'll see you tomorrow.
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Hi, Dad. Hi, I made some risotto.
Do you want some?
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Love some. Starving.
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Hard day?
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Can you imagine anything worse
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than going to your grave
never knowing where your baby was?
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You wonder how people go on.
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The mother said to me today,
"What's the point of me?"
245
00:18:20,550 --> 00:18:23,269
I guess you look for meaning
in other things.
246
00:18:23,270 --> 00:18:25,549
Like?
247
00:18:25,550 --> 00:18:29,870
After our kids, the rest is just...
It's filling, isn't it?
248
00:18:45,310 --> 00:18:48,670
'..strangled. From behind...'
249
00:18:49,910 --> 00:18:52,110
You evil fucking pig!
250
00:18:52,790 --> 00:18:56,109
W-What? I know what you are.
I know what you did!
251
00:18:56,110 --> 00:18:59,429
Wh... Claire?
Sweetheart, where you going?
252
00:18:59,430 --> 00:19:01,029
I'm going to my sister's.
253
00:19:01,030 --> 00:19:03,390
Do you think I'd stay here
another second with you?
254
00:19:11,150 --> 00:19:12,949
Wh... L-Les?
255
00:19:12,950 --> 00:19:16,309
Yeah, it's Dad. Look, I'm sorry.
256
00:19:16,310 --> 00:19:18,350
It's happened again.
257
00:19:34,070 --> 00:19:36,109
I'm so sorry about this, Tim.
258
00:19:36,110 --> 00:19:38,829
I did invite her in but
she wanted to wait outside.
259
00:19:38,830 --> 00:19:40,469
I don't know where Carol is, Les.
260
00:19:40,470 --> 00:19:42,829
I don't know why this man
is in her house.
261
00:19:42,830 --> 00:19:46,349
Carol doesn't live here any more,
Mum. Shall we get you home?
262
00:19:46,350 --> 00:19:48,229
Yes, I... I want to see Eric.
263
00:19:48,230 --> 00:19:50,909
I want Eric.
Yeah, let's go and see Dad.
264
00:19:50,910 --> 00:19:52,950
Thanks again.
265
00:20:19,390 --> 00:20:22,949
Yeah, well, that all chimes with
the original MISPER reports,
266
00:20:22,950 --> 00:20:25,710
a grand total of 17 sheets of A4
over eight years.
267
00:20:27,110 --> 00:20:29,789
Did you manage to trace
any of the officers she spoke to?
268
00:20:29,790 --> 00:20:31,429
Yeah, I got three main ones,
269
00:20:31,430 --> 00:20:33,509
one of whom's dead,
the other two retired,
270
00:20:33,510 --> 00:20:37,189
and only one of them remembered
anything about the case. Yeah?
271
00:20:37,190 --> 00:20:38,789
Which was?
272
00:20:38,790 --> 00:20:41,469
Well, he... felt
it was open and shut.
273
00:20:41,470 --> 00:20:45,430
Jimmy was a runaway and ditched
his violent, alcoholic parents.
274
00:20:45,990 --> 00:20:49,869
She said she told them he loved
his mum and they were very close.
275
00:20:49,870 --> 00:20:52,029
Yeah, he said that she said that.
276
00:20:52,030 --> 00:20:53,909
So?
277
00:20:53,910 --> 00:20:58,069
Well, the copper I spoke to...
278
00:20:58,070 --> 00:21:00,869
he kept refering to her er,
"coloured husband",
279
00:21:00,870 --> 00:21:03,829
"interracial marriage" and erm...
280
00:21:03,830 --> 00:21:06,109
"coffee-coloured kid".
281
00:21:06,110 --> 00:21:09,150
Er, I'm not sure how much credence
he gave Mrs Sullivan's opinions.
282
00:21:12,350 --> 00:21:14,789
'70s, eh? Good times
283
00:21:14,790 --> 00:21:16,830
Ta.
284
00:21:25,830 --> 00:21:28,670
You said on the phone
you remembered her, Mum.
285
00:21:33,670 --> 00:21:35,870
'Beth Laws' you said her name was.
286
00:21:37,430 --> 00:21:39,389
I'd have never have rented her
the room
287
00:21:39,390 --> 00:21:42,469
if I'd seen her head properly.
288
00:21:42,470 --> 00:21:44,870
She wore a hat.
289
00:21:47,350 --> 00:21:49,749
Why did you need
to see her head, Mum?
290
00:21:49,750 --> 00:21:51,790
She were a skinhead.
291
00:21:55,150 --> 00:21:57,150
And her boyfriend.
292
00:21:58,230 --> 00:22:01,549
Well, you wouldn't have known it
from when she knocked on the door.
293
00:22:01,550 --> 00:22:04,110
Butter wouldn't have melted.
294
00:22:06,830 --> 00:22:09,549
I had to get my brother
and his mates round in the end
295
00:22:09,550 --> 00:22:12,029
to chuck 'em out.
296
00:22:12,030 --> 00:22:15,269
Only there a few weeks but...
297
00:22:15,270 --> 00:22:17,310
the way they was...
298
00:22:19,710 --> 00:22:21,549
The things I could hear them saying
299
00:22:21,550 --> 00:22:23,910
about the Pakistanis
and the West Indians.
300
00:22:25,870 --> 00:22:29,469
I got the carpets cleaned
after they went.
301
00:22:29,470 --> 00:22:31,870
Whole house felt filthy.
302
00:22:41,550 --> 00:22:45,150
Mum? Out in a sec, babes.
303
00:23:20,250 --> 00:23:21,929
'All going well, Mam.
304
00:23:21,930 --> 00:23:25,009
I'm staying in Kentish Town
with some lads I met from Kirby.
305
00:23:25,010 --> 00:23:27,969
One of them knows Uncle Robbo's
got me work hauling bricks...'
306
00:23:27,970 --> 00:23:29,889
'Went to see a punk band last night.
307
00:23:29,890 --> 00:23:32,449
The latest thing, apparently.
They were shite...'
308
00:23:32,450 --> 00:23:35,169
'Mam, have you ever eaten
a Bendy Burger?
309
00:23:35,170 --> 00:23:37,089
It was brilliant...'
310
00:23:37,090 --> 00:23:39,729
'You'll be pleased to hear
I went to church last week.
311
00:23:39,730 --> 00:23:42,089
Got chatting to the priest,
Father Greaves.
312
00:23:42,090 --> 00:23:43,969
Got chatting to the priest,
Turned out to be an all right bloke,
313
00:23:43,970 --> 00:23:46,369
even if he is a QPR supporter...'
314
00:23:46,370 --> 00:23:49,489
'I watched an NF rally last week
from my bedroom window.
315
00:23:49,490 --> 00:23:52,729
It was horrible.
The stuff they were screaming.
316
00:23:52,730 --> 00:23:55,689
And the police weren't
even that bothered...'
317
00:23:55,690 --> 00:23:58,489
'I hope you got the cash OK.
318
00:23:58,490 --> 00:24:01,650
Would've sent more but I've just
bought myself a car...'
319
00:24:02,970 --> 00:24:05,289
'Your little Jimmy
has a girlfriend now,
320
00:24:05,290 --> 00:24:08,050
and she's beautiful
and I really like her...'
321
00:24:09,290 --> 00:24:12,130
'Lots of love, your Jimmy.'
322
00:24:28,650 --> 00:24:31,849
Lab just texted.
Confirmed it's Jimmy.
323
00:24:31,850 --> 00:24:34,650
BT have identified the number
next to Frankie C.
324
00:24:35,370 --> 00:24:39,770
From 1973 to 1987,
that number was registered to...
325
00:24:40,890 --> 00:24:43,170
..Mr Gordon Fenwick.
326
00:24:43,730 --> 00:24:46,489
I've counted three murder cases
against the Fenwicks.
327
00:24:46,490 --> 00:24:49,009
No convictions.
328
00:24:49,010 --> 00:24:51,449
OK. That's interesting.
329
00:24:51,450 --> 00:24:54,810
Let's have a catch-up with everyone
first thing tomorrow morning. Sure.
330
00:25:26,730 --> 00:25:28,730
Hello?
331
00:25:36,210 --> 00:25:38,370
Hi, love.
332
00:25:45,770 --> 00:25:49,210
And these I didn't pinch
from a grave.
333
00:25:50,170 --> 00:25:51,810
Thank you.
334
00:25:52,770 --> 00:25:55,130
I might moan at you more often.
Huh.
335
00:25:57,570 --> 00:25:59,889
OK, er...
336
00:25:59,890 --> 00:26:03,249
Tuesday's bolognese
or Wednesday's fish?
337
00:26:03,250 --> 00:26:05,930
Er, Tuesday's bolognese
will be fine.
338
00:26:11,010 --> 00:26:15,489
Late tonight?
Mm. I was at the food bank meeting.
339
00:26:15,490 --> 00:26:19,449
Of course you were.
So are we all ready to go?
340
00:26:19,450 --> 00:26:21,569
Starting next Thursday.
341
00:26:21,570 --> 00:26:25,609
And we got Morrisons on board today,
as well, which is great.
342
00:26:25,610 --> 00:26:28,250
That's fantastic.
Aw, well done, you.
343
00:26:29,930 --> 00:26:32,130
I spoke to Caroline today.
344
00:26:33,050 --> 00:26:36,009
She said that you went with her
to her scan yesterday?
345
00:26:36,010 --> 00:26:38,729
Mm. Just a bit of hand-holding.
346
00:26:38,730 --> 00:26:41,729
You know? Ten minutes or so.
347
00:26:41,730 --> 00:26:44,089
She was really touched.
348
00:26:44,090 --> 00:26:46,729
Well, just trying to be
around a bit more.
349
00:26:46,730 --> 00:26:50,130
Good. We like having you
around a bit more.
350
00:26:55,610 --> 00:26:59,609
Beth or Elizabeth Laws
approximately matches the age
351
00:26:59,610 --> 00:27:02,209
of the tenant described
by Mrs Leeming,
352
00:27:02,210 --> 00:27:07,209
has eight convictions
between 1975 and 1978.
353
00:27:07,210 --> 00:27:11,209
Drugs, shop-lifting,
D-and-D and an ABH.
354
00:27:11,210 --> 00:27:13,649
She serve time?
Six months suspended for the ABH.
355
00:27:13,650 --> 00:27:17,449
Which was? An assault on
a West Indian shopkeeper.
356
00:27:17,450 --> 00:27:19,729
Alongside this man, Vincent Erskine,
357
00:27:19,730 --> 00:27:21,409
who nine years later was convicted
358
00:27:21,410 --> 00:27:23,769
of the murder of
a Pakistani postal worker.
359
00:27:23,770 --> 00:27:25,729
of the murder of Get him up.
360
00:27:25,730 --> 00:27:27,769
And we think this could've been
the same man
361
00:27:27,770 --> 00:27:29,569
that she rented this room with?
Yeah.
362
00:27:29,570 --> 00:27:35,049
His name appears as the boyfriend
on several of her arrest sheets.
363
00:27:35,050 --> 00:27:37,209
Anyway, the ABH gave me
364
00:27:37,210 --> 00:27:40,329
a probation officer
and a social worker.
365
00:27:40,330 --> 00:27:42,609
Which in turn chucks up a file
366
00:27:42,610 --> 00:27:46,849
detailing a name change
in 1988 to Wilton.
367
00:27:46,850 --> 00:27:48,409
detailing a name change
She got married.
368
00:27:48,410 --> 00:27:53,530
And even better, an address that
matches current council tax records.
369
00:27:55,370 --> 00:27:59,249
And Erskine? Died 14 years ago
in prison of hepatitis C.
370
00:27:59,250 --> 00:28:01,769
Excellent work, Murray.
We have our first living link
371
00:28:01,770 --> 00:28:05,089
to someone who we can assume
knew Jimmy. Well done.
372
00:28:05,090 --> 00:28:07,449
Jake... no pressure, mate
373
00:28:07,450 --> 00:28:10,529
Two key names so far.
374
00:28:10,530 --> 00:28:13,369
Arlingham Place records
confirm that Jimmy Sullivan
375
00:28:13,370 --> 00:28:17,009
stayed sporadic nights over
a six-month period in early '76.
376
00:28:17,010 --> 00:28:18,849
That's confirmed stays
of June that year.
377
00:28:18,850 --> 00:28:23,569
And the name Mr Slater in the diary
probably refers to an Eric Slater,
378
00:28:23,570 --> 00:28:26,649
who was a bookkeeper for the hostel
for most of its incarnation,
379
00:28:26,650 --> 00:28:30,649
but he was certainly working there
when Jimmy was a resident. OK.
380
00:28:30,650 --> 00:28:32,409
Also now we have
Elizabeth Laws' name.
381
00:28:32,410 --> 00:28:35,329
Can you also check if either
she or Erskine ever stayed there?
382
00:28:35,330 --> 00:28:40,169
And there's erm, a mention of er...
a Father Robert Greaves
383
00:28:40,170 --> 00:28:42,289
in some of Jimmy's postcards home.
384
00:28:42,290 --> 00:28:44,809
He seems to be associated
with the hostel in some way.
385
00:28:44,810 --> 00:28:47,889
The records I have obviously
only detail paid employees.
386
00:28:47,890 --> 00:28:50,089
See if you can finding
anything relating to him.
387
00:28:50,090 --> 00:28:53,569
And Karen, see if you can track
him down through the church as well.
388
00:28:53,570 --> 00:28:55,169
And lastly, Murray,
389
00:28:55,170 --> 00:28:57,609
can you see what the Fenwick family
is up to these days?
390
00:28:57,610 --> 00:29:00,129
OK? I think that's it.
Well done, everyone.
391
00:29:00,130 --> 00:29:02,250
That is really good work.
392
00:29:35,610 --> 00:29:39,290
Maybe I'm just old fashioned. To me,
it's a common courtesy to call ahead.
393
00:29:40,170 --> 00:29:42,649
Yeah, do accept our apologies,
Mr Cross.
394
00:29:42,650 --> 00:29:44,730
Please, call me 'Sir Phillip'.
395
00:29:49,170 --> 00:29:52,210
So... what was his name again?
396
00:29:53,250 --> 00:29:55,089
James Sullivan.
397
00:29:55,090 --> 00:29:59,009
Er, but you would have almost
certainly known him as 'Jimmy'.
398
00:29:59,010 --> 00:30:01,290
And why might I have known him?
399
00:30:02,450 --> 00:30:04,929
If we could come on to that.
400
00:30:04,930 --> 00:30:07,970
Sorry. No, I don't remember
anybody by that name.
401
00:30:11,050 --> 00:30:12,809
Can you tell me anything more
about him?
402
00:30:12,810 --> 00:30:14,850
Oh, I... I can do better than that.
403
00:30:20,130 --> 00:30:24,769
Here we go. That was taken
about six months before he died.
404
00:30:24,770 --> 00:30:26,690
17 years old in that.
405
00:30:30,210 --> 00:30:32,209
Sorry. I wish I could help you.
406
00:30:32,210 --> 00:30:34,570
OK, er... no problem.
407
00:30:35,330 --> 00:30:37,089
Er, could I just ask, then,
408
00:30:37,090 --> 00:30:39,489
if you recognise this phone number,
Sir Phillip?
409
00:30:39,490 --> 00:30:44,769
01 946 09 27.
410
00:30:44,770 --> 00:30:47,889
Well, 01 is obviously
an old London number.
411
00:30:47,890 --> 00:30:50,889
Aside from that, no, I don't.
Should I?
412
00:30:50,890 --> 00:30:54,249
It was written next to your name
in the addresses section
413
00:30:54,250 --> 00:30:57,369
of a 1976 diary
belonging to Mr Sullivan.
414
00:30:57,370 --> 00:31:00,049
Er, sorry, when I say "your name",
I mean...
415
00:31:00,050 --> 00:31:02,449
Well, it's when you used
your first name.
416
00:31:02,450 --> 00:31:05,089
Erm...'Frank'.
417
00:31:05,090 --> 00:31:07,210
'F-Frankie'.
418
00:31:08,570 --> 00:31:11,209
Do I need a lawyer?
419
00:31:11,210 --> 00:31:13,369
Oh, well, that's entirely up to you.
420
00:31:13,370 --> 00:31:16,329
As I think my colleague
explained to you,
421
00:31:16,330 --> 00:31:20,049
this really is just
a fact-finding mission but...
422
00:31:20,050 --> 00:31:23,530
if you think you need a lawyer,
we're very happy to come back.
423
00:31:31,810 --> 00:31:34,729
All that says is 'Frankie C'.
It could be anyone.
424
00:31:34,730 --> 00:31:37,489
OK, and do you recognise
any of the other names?
425
00:31:37,490 --> 00:31:42,370
No, I don't recognise
any of the other names.
426
00:31:43,290 --> 00:31:45,490
OK. No problem.
427
00:31:46,010 --> 00:31:49,329
We done?
Er, there's one more thing. Erm...
428
00:31:49,330 --> 00:31:53,329
The Fenwick brothers -
You know what? I think we are done.
429
00:31:53,330 --> 00:31:55,929
I don't know his lad or anything
about what happened to him
430
00:31:55,930 --> 00:31:59,409
but I do know how much you lot love a
celebrity fish wriggling on your hooks.
431
00:31:59,410 --> 00:32:01,529
Doesn't matter
if they've done nothing,
432
00:32:01,530 --> 00:32:06,769
just makes you look like you're doing your
job a bit better than you frequently are.
433
00:32:06,770 --> 00:32:08,449
You wanna talk more, fine,
434
00:32:08,450 --> 00:32:12,929
but I want my lawyers present if we're
dragging up ancient history like the Fenwicks.
435
00:32:12,930 --> 00:32:14,449
but I want my lawyers present if we're
dragging up ancient history Cara.
436
00:32:14,450 --> 00:32:17,649
Can you show DI Khan, DCI Stuart
to the lifts, please?
437
00:32:17,650 --> 00:32:19,609
Thank you so much for your time,
Sir Phillip.
438
00:32:19,610 --> 00:32:21,289
No problem. Nice to meet you.
439
00:32:21,290 --> 00:32:23,450
We'll be in touch.
440
00:32:25,050 --> 00:32:27,050
Thanks.
441
00:32:39,010 --> 00:32:42,530
Shorter than he looks on the telly.
And fatter.
442
00:33:13,730 --> 00:33:15,970
Good afternoon. Elizabeth Wilton?
443
00:33:17,130 --> 00:33:20,010
Yes. Come on. Come on, lads.
444
00:33:21,650 --> 00:33:25,050
..and DCI Stuart,
Bishop Street police station...
445
00:33:26,530 --> 00:33:28,929
Curtis? You're in charge.
446
00:33:28,930 --> 00:33:30,970
Two minutes.
447
00:33:35,890 --> 00:33:38,209
You OK, love?
448
00:33:38,210 --> 00:33:39,849
They're police officers, Ray.
449
00:33:39,850 --> 00:33:42,209
They just wanna ask some
questions about er...?
450
00:33:42,210 --> 00:33:44,129
They just wanna ask some
An historical case.
451
00:33:44,130 --> 00:33:46,849
What historical case?
She'll be fine, Mr...?
452
00:33:46,850 --> 00:33:48,770
Wilton. I'm her husband.
453
00:33:50,370 --> 00:33:54,049
Shouldn't be long. Just going to the
changing block to find somewhere private.
454
00:33:54,050 --> 00:33:56,850
Want me to come with, love?
She'll be fine, Mr Wilton.
455
00:34:08,970 --> 00:34:11,849
How did he die?
His skull was smashed in.
456
00:34:11,850 --> 00:34:13,889
A hammer, baseball bat,
we're not sure,
457
00:34:13,890 --> 00:34:17,449
but er, blunt instrument trauma.
They call it.
458
00:34:17,450 --> 00:34:19,090
Sorry, no, I don't know him.
459
00:34:21,730 --> 00:34:26,690
No? No, or if I ever did, I don't
remember him now, I'm afraid.
460
00:34:27,330 --> 00:34:31,969
Any ideas why your name
might've been in his diary?
461
00:34:31,970 --> 00:34:34,049
No.
462
00:34:34,050 --> 00:34:36,569
OK, no worries.
463
00:34:36,570 --> 00:34:39,450
So where were you living in 1976,
Mrs Wilton?
464
00:34:40,530 --> 00:34:43,209
Various squats and flats
around London.
465
00:34:43,210 --> 00:34:46,289
I was a... little bit lost back then.
466
00:34:46,290 --> 00:34:48,409
How d'you mean? "Lost".
467
00:34:48,410 --> 00:34:50,889
It took me a little while
to find my feet
468
00:34:50,890 --> 00:34:53,289
when I moved up from Crawley
and er...
469
00:34:53,290 --> 00:34:56,649
I ended up having some problems
with alcohol, other stuff.
470
00:34:56,650 --> 00:34:59,449
Do you remember ever staying
at a hostel in Willesden
471
00:34:59,450 --> 00:35:01,369
called Arlingham House?
472
00:35:01,370 --> 00:35:04,809
No, I don't think so. How about
a rented room in Lisson Grove,
473
00:35:04,810 --> 00:35:06,889
in the house of a Mrs Leeming?
474
00:35:06,890 --> 00:35:10,290
No, sorry.
Well, let me help you out.
475
00:35:11,690 --> 00:35:15,929
Because she remembers a girl
called Beth staying with her.
476
00:35:15,930 --> 00:35:18,609
Beth Laws -
that is your maiden name, isn't it?
477
00:35:18,610 --> 00:35:23,609
Yes. She remembers a Beth Laws
staying for a couple of weeks,
478
00:35:23,610 --> 00:35:26,369
and then throwing her out
because she wouldn't pay her rent.
479
00:35:26,370 --> 00:35:29,569
Neither her nor erm...
480
00:35:29,570 --> 00:35:31,610
her boyfriend.
481
00:35:32,490 --> 00:35:35,529
Was this your boyfriend, Mrs Wilton?
Vincent Erskine.
482
00:35:35,530 --> 00:35:39,009
I went out with him
for a few months 38 years ago.
483
00:35:39,010 --> 00:35:42,129
We have a number of co-convictions
spanning nearly two years.
484
00:35:42,130 --> 00:35:45,569
I didn't know this boy Jimmy.
I would never have hurt anyone.
485
00:35:45,570 --> 00:35:49,289
OK. Maybe just say you just...
you just can't remember.
486
00:35:49,290 --> 00:35:51,689
I'd remember that.
487
00:35:51,690 --> 00:35:53,969
Well, tell me if you remember this.
488
00:35:53,970 --> 00:35:56,689
August of 1977... Please.
489
00:35:56,690 --> 00:36:00,369
..you were convicted of a violent
assault on a West Indian shopkeeper.
490
00:36:00,370 --> 00:36:02,329
That was Erskine, not me.
I tried to stop him.
491
00:36:02,330 --> 00:36:05,249
Both sentenced
to six months imprisonment,
492
00:36:05,250 --> 00:36:06,929
suspended for two years.
493
00:36:06,930 --> 00:36:09,289
Erskine, a man who,
only a few years later,
494
00:36:09,290 --> 00:36:13,249
robbed an Asian post office worker
before stabbing him to death.
495
00:36:13,250 --> 00:36:15,730
Did Erskine ever mention
staying at a hostel?
496
00:36:17,890 --> 00:36:20,089
I don't remember.
Do you have any recollection
497
00:36:20,090 --> 00:36:22,450
of him ever mentioning
a Jimmy Sullivan?
498
00:36:23,170 --> 00:36:25,170
I don't remember.
499
00:36:26,650 --> 00:36:28,849
Well, have a think about erm,
500
00:36:28,850 --> 00:36:32,089
what we've discussed today.
Mrs Wilton.
501
00:36:32,090 --> 00:36:37,610
Erm, if you think you can help us,
in any way erm, just...
502
00:36:38,970 --> 00:36:41,329
..call me.
503
00:36:41,330 --> 00:36:44,929
How could I be a racist?
You've seen my husband.
504
00:36:44,930 --> 00:36:46,769
Maybe not now. But then?
505
00:36:46,770 --> 00:36:50,970
No. Not now, not then, not ever.
506
00:37:03,610 --> 00:37:07,289
Yeah, OK. Give us a shout.
507
00:37:07,290 --> 00:37:09,370
Yeah, do that. Bye.
508
00:37:10,770 --> 00:37:12,809
That was Jake.
509
00:37:12,810 --> 00:37:16,049
According to the records,
she stayed at the house eight times
510
00:37:16,050 --> 00:37:18,889
between January and November 1976...
511
00:37:18,890 --> 00:37:21,409
five of them nights
when Jimmy was there.
512
00:37:21,410 --> 00:37:23,890
And Erskine? Still checking.
513
00:37:26,090 --> 00:37:28,609
She's a good little liar.
514
00:37:28,610 --> 00:37:31,050
I think we'd all have
to give her that.
515
00:37:34,010 --> 00:37:37,689
'Erm, yes, Father Greaves
is very much still practising.'
516
00:37:37,690 --> 00:37:40,049
One of our more dynamic priests,
in fact.
517
00:37:40,050 --> 00:37:42,250
Great. Can you give me
his contact details?
518
00:38:17,610 --> 00:38:21,290
So erm, how'd they get your name?
519
00:38:22,730 --> 00:38:25,450
It was in this boy's diary,
apparently.
520
00:38:26,130 --> 00:38:28,049
Oh.
521
00:38:28,050 --> 00:38:32,449
But you er... definitely
didn't know him, right?
522
00:38:32,450 --> 00:38:35,089
But you er... definitely
I said I didn't remember him, Ray.
523
00:38:35,090 --> 00:38:40,169
If someone mentioned the names of people
you'd met once or twice 40 years ago,
524
00:38:40,170 --> 00:38:42,449
would you remember them all?
525
00:38:42,450 --> 00:38:44,609
Nah. Probably not.
526
00:38:44,610 --> 00:38:47,330
No. Exactly.
527
00:38:59,050 --> 00:39:01,090
Erm... Hmm...
528
00:39:17,170 --> 00:39:18,850
Hi, love. Hey.
529
00:39:20,370 --> 00:39:23,490
There's a shoebox on the kitchen
table with some letters in it.
530
00:39:24,210 --> 00:39:26,249
They were written to your mum.
531
00:39:26,250 --> 00:39:28,289
20 years ago.
532
00:39:28,290 --> 00:39:29,850
I found them.
533
00:39:31,130 --> 00:39:32,850
Hidden away after she died.
534
00:39:35,850 --> 00:39:38,010
I'd like you to read them.
535
00:39:39,530 --> 00:39:42,049
S-Sorry, what did you say?
I'm off out for the evening.
536
00:39:42,050 --> 00:39:43,729
W-What letters?
537
00:39:43,730 --> 00:39:47,290
Just read them, love, please.
Don't wait up!
538
00:40:18,410 --> 00:40:21,769
'Hello?'
Hi. It's erm, it's Robert Greaves.
539
00:40:21,770 --> 00:40:25,289
Oh, Rob. Hi.
'Erm, listen, Geoff.'
540
00:40:25,290 --> 00:40:29,530
I-I just wanted to put your mind
at rest about the bookkeeping thing.
541
00:40:30,250 --> 00:40:32,529
Er, it turns out that Grace er...
542
00:40:32,530 --> 00:40:36,129
'..accidentally put a cheque
into a personal account,
543
00:40:36,130 --> 00:40:39,089
couple of years ago. Erm...
544
00:40:39,090 --> 00:40:41,689
She was a bit overworked
at the time, I think.
545
00:40:41,690 --> 00:40:44,049
Anyway, I've transferred
the right amount
546
00:40:44,050 --> 00:40:46,489
Anyway, I've transferred
into the diocesan account so...
547
00:40:46,490 --> 00:40:48,049
well, it's all sorted.
548
00:40:48,050 --> 00:40:51,449
Oh. Oh, OK, well,
that sounds simple enough.
549
00:40:51,450 --> 00:40:55,969
'And er... I'd appreciate it if you
didn't mention this to Grace.'
550
00:40:55,970 --> 00:40:58,489
She's at a bit of a low ebb
at the moment, so...
551
00:40:58,490 --> 00:41:01,770
'Oh, sorry to hear that, Rob.'
No, no, it's all right. Just er...
552
00:41:02,610 --> 00:41:05,209
She just probably needs
a good holiday, really.
553
00:41:05,210 --> 00:41:07,009
We both do.
554
00:41:07,010 --> 00:41:08,929
No problem. Mum's the word.
555
00:41:08,930 --> 00:41:11,649
Good. Thanks.
All right, thanks, Geoff.
556
00:41:11,650 --> 00:41:14,770
Sorry, one quick thing, Robert.
Did the police get hold of you?
557
00:41:16,170 --> 00:41:19,809
The police? 'Yeah, I got a call
from a police officer earlier today
558
00:41:19,810 --> 00:41:21,850
asking for your contact details.'
559
00:41:22,890 --> 00:41:26,489
Oh, no, no. Oh. Right, well...
560
00:41:26,490 --> 00:41:29,889
they're investigating
some historic case, apparently...
561
00:41:29,890 --> 00:41:33,169
'..and they thought you might
have some information.'
562
00:41:33,170 --> 00:41:34,969
Historic?
563
00:41:34,970 --> 00:41:37,409
Er, what did they mean, historic?
564
00:41:37,410 --> 00:41:39,929
No idea. They wouldn't tell me.
565
00:41:39,930 --> 00:41:42,369
Very old case, I guess, but er...
566
00:41:42,370 --> 00:41:46,849
hey, I put in a good word for you
so you should be all right.
567
00:41:46,850 --> 00:41:49,129
Yeah, thanks.
568
00:41:49,130 --> 00:41:51,089
'Anyway, they wanted it pronto...'
569
00:41:51,090 --> 00:41:52,969
..so I'm sure they'll be
in touch soon.
570
00:41:52,970 --> 00:41:56,809
Yeah. OK. Thanks, Geoff.
571
00:41:56,810 --> 00:41:59,569
Er, yeah.
'Well, night then, Robert.'
572
00:41:59,570 --> 00:42:01,610
Yes, night.
573
00:42:57,810 --> 00:43:01,369
But we asked you, both myself
and the Press Office, Sir Phillip,
574
00:43:01,370 --> 00:43:04,569
we asked you repeatedly if there
was anything you needed to tell us.
575
00:43:04,570 --> 00:43:07,609
And there wasn't.
There's absolutely nothing in it.
576
00:43:07,610 --> 00:43:12,689
How many times? It doesn't matter
if there's nothing in it.
577
00:43:12,690 --> 00:43:14,489
What matters is that by the time
578
00:43:14,490 --> 00:43:16,609
the police work out
there's nothing in it,
579
00:43:16,610 --> 00:43:19,129
we will have lost five points
in the polls.
580
00:43:19,130 --> 00:43:21,129
That's why we vet.
581
00:43:21,130 --> 00:43:24,809
That's why we ask
for full disclosure.
582
00:43:24,810 --> 00:43:28,929
Because perception
is as important as reality.
583
00:43:28,930 --> 00:43:32,049
So when we ask you if there's
anything you need to tell us,
584
00:43:32,050 --> 00:43:36,809
it's not up to you to decide what
is and isn't fucking important.
585
00:43:36,810 --> 00:43:39,089
It's for -
586
00:43:39,090 --> 00:43:42,250
I've had a very bad day, Liam.
587
00:43:42,930 --> 00:43:45,370
Don't make me make it worse.
588
00:44:05,130 --> 00:44:08,529
There. Sleep well, love.
589
00:44:08,530 --> 00:44:13,369
I love you, Eric.
I'm sorry I keep getting confused.
590
00:44:13,370 --> 00:44:18,370
Don't be silly. W-We're all allowed
to be a bit confused now and again.
591
00:44:20,170 --> 00:44:23,289
Are we going to be all right?
Of course we are.
592
00:44:23,290 --> 00:44:26,650
We've got the party
to look forward to.
593
00:44:30,050 --> 00:44:32,450
There. Night-night.
594
00:44:59,490 --> 00:45:02,889
'Hi. This is Joanna.
I can't take your call right now.
595
00:45:02,890 --> 00:45:06,089
Please leave a message.'
596
00:45:06,090 --> 00:45:08,729
Hi, Jo-Jo, it's me.
597
00:45:08,730 --> 00:45:12,810
Er... I need to talk to you
as soon as possible.
598
00:45:14,170 --> 00:45:16,329
Erm...
599
00:45:16,330 --> 00:45:18,330
I'll call you first thing.
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