All language subtitles for Still Missing Morgan - S01E04 (2023) WEB.eng

I recall early on that someone
had located

child pornography
in a closet...

Son of a bitch.

It was like nearly 27 years

of searching
and carrying that hope.

And it was like, "It´s him."
I knew it was him.

If somebody told you
they killed somebody,

why are you gonna wait
20 years

to tell somebody
about it?

We have descriptions
that line up with our witnesses,

and also the subject
in Van Buren

had a red pickup truck.

Look at this truck.

I´ll make sure I get out there
no later than tomorrow evening.

Getting it worked out to get
the truck in our possession.

You know, she had on her little
green Girl Scout T-shirt.

Because, you know, Girl Scouts
can stay inside and glue stuff.

So we´ve been looking
at it now for weeks.

Nobody can put their hand
on a piece of paper.

Nobody can put their hand
on the evidence.

So like many things
in this case,

I´m going to look at it
and say it doesn´t exist.

I hope I get surprised
one day.

When are we gonna
process this truck?

Then I´ll start the paperwork
on the front end

to get the -- the truck parts
that we ex--

anticipate breaking.

And so i-it will be weeks
to get to the truck.

We go to the --
to the max.

I think it´s our only shot
in this case.

I´m just giving you
my gut feeling.

It´s our only shot
in this case.

We give it everything
we got.

We get the absolute best
freaking people to do this,

because of the circumstances,

because it was
already processed.

And to get -- I mean,
one frickin drop of blood

or one hair that matches Morgan
and this case is done.

Whatever strings we have to pull
to get the absolute best people

to process this truck

is where I´d want to go
with the truck.

When first arriving
at the truck

and seeing the truck
for the first time,

I was actually pretty surprised

with how decent
of condition it was in

and that it was still around.

What I´m looking at
on my initial approach

are things that were actually
brought up in the investigation.

I bought for me and
my grandson to build together,

which --
he´s three years old.

So it´s -- you know,
it´s going to be a while.

I´m also looking for
the coloring of the vehicle

on the outside,

but also within
the interior, as well.

See how much redder
the color was

in the in the door edging
and under the trim?

Yeah.

You know, it´s so faded now
that it´s much more orange,

but it had a lot more
red back in the day.

Yeah.

But on our approach,
you can actually see

where a camper shell used
to be on the bed of the truck.

So I´m looking
for those markings.

You´re able to see
where the holes were filled,

where the camper
would have been.

Yeah, and the officers that did
the search warrant,

some of them are gone.

One of them
that is still around,

he doesn´t remember anything.

I was like, you know --
I asked him about the cutting,

the scraping, and he´s --

he honestly
didn´t even remember.

That they did it?
That they did it, yeah.

I can see that.

The wife,
what family photos she had,

had no pictures
of the ve-- of the truck.

So, yeah, we went through all
the family photos that she had

and she was very much convinced
that he was even innocent.

And some of his other stuff.
But the pictures --

no, none of the vehicles
at all.

Not even the other car
they had at the time.

But it sounded like he only
had this for a short period --

only a year or two
when he got it,

before he got in the incident
and got it impounded.

And that´s where
my hopes are,

is that by pulling
this up and down,

up under there could be,
you know...

We´ll finally get back down
to the original.

Yeah.

In a lot of the other cases
we´ve been working on,

the -- the vehicles are crushed
or scrapped,

and we have nothing to --
nothing to exploit for evidence.

And so finally,
in a case,

having something that far back
that still exists

and is intact enough
to exploit is hopeful.

And, you know,
so many times, it´s like,

in all the other VCAC cases
we´ve been working,

we -- we find a truck
to be at a scrap yard

or gone completely.

And, uh, so it´s exciting
to have a truck

that has --
has value that -- that --

of the hope of finding
something.

At the same time,
it´s so far back,

it´s just still
a long shot.

The markings
of the camper shell

on the bed of the truck

I won´t say excited me,
but I knew

I was potentially looking
at the correct truck.

Usually you find something
like, "Okay, that --

this truck didn´t have it,
we can eliminate it.

This didn´t have that.
We can eliminate it."

This one keeps having
little pieces that tie in

to certain witness statements

that -- that increase
the hope a little bit.

I don´t want to get --
I don´t want to get too hopeful

because just the --
the long shot that it is,

but it´s a continued
increasing in hope,

but we have to maintain our,

keep ourselves grounded.

So according to the witness
statements,

we´ve got seven locations
that we´re looking at

and the seventh location,

there are witnesses
that the time frame winds up,

the information corroborates
descriptions and information

that we got
from witnesses within Alma,

that leads me to believe

that this could be potentially
the last place that Morgan was.

You´re looking at a scenario

that she was buried
at that location.

You´re also looking at
the potential in that location

that she was not buried

and that she was left
on top of the ground.

You know, I think there´s been
a lot of questions

over the 25-year period.

Well, why hasn´t Morgan
been found?

Uh, why haven´t we had
any answers?

And that could simply be, um...

if she was left at this location

and she wasn´t buried
at this location,

with the floodwaters
that we had come in,

it could be, um,
very easily explained

that she did go
with the floodwaters.

We were looking at flood stages,
I believe,

of 32 feet at the time,

where, a couple days
after her abduction,

they recorded it was about
226,000 cubic feet per second

that river´s flowing.

So when that river comes up
and the -- you know,

there´s articles at the time
from the farmers, um,

where fields that are a ways
away from the river

are four feet underwater.

So naturally, for us looking
at this 24 years later,

when you look at the timeline of
when it -- it happens

and when she´s abducted
to the timeline

that the flooding starts,

and how serious
the flooding was,

we face the fact
that there is a potential

that Morgan was washed away
with floodwaters.

I mean, this -- this is not --

It´s different
for law enforcement officers.

Between dealing with something
with an adult

and dealing with something with
a child, on an emotional level,

it´s different.
And everything at this point

leads me to believe very strong

that this is a location
that we have to look at.

And -- And it´s tough
because you want to be able

to find those answers
25 years later

and you want to be able
to bring her home.

The FBI ERT who were processing
the truck actually removed

what is believed to be
the original floor cover

of this truck.

And under that floor cover,

they located a blonde hair.

So that is something that we are
waiting to get examined

to see if potentially
they can get DNA from it,

potentially if that
could be Morgan´s.

Obviously, any time you´re --
you´re dealing with that,

that is something
that gives you hope.

It´s something
that gives you excitement.

We -- We have to go into
the waiting period.

That item was taken as evidence
by the FBI

and it will be sent
to their crime lab,

where it will be examined to see
if there´s a potential

they can get DNA from it.

And we´re probably looking at
at least six months

to get that information back.

One of the goals was to
present to Heinrich

that he was facing federal child
pornography charges,

but also to let him know
that he was the suspect

in the Cold Spring case
and Wetterling´s abduction,

and to plant the seed right away
for him to think about

is coming up with a resolution.

We wanted Heinrich to know
is everybody is looking

for the answer of where Jacob is
and to bring Jacob home.

What kind of questions
did they ask him?

He denied it in 1990
and he denied it again

after the cold case
investigation.

He was very cooperative
in many ways

and sought to please
at times,

and just got the sense,
through his personality,

that someday, he was going
to say where Jacob was.

And the case had such notoriety,

and he was well aware of that
through his time in the jail,

and since it occurred --
it just felt like someday

he was going to talk about it.

I was 100% sure
that Danny Heinrich was involved

in Jacob´s abduction.

Unfortunately, without knowing
where Jacob was, legally,

I understood why prosecutors
were reluctant to go forward

on Jacob´s case
and prosecute Jacob´s case

without Jacob´s body.

There´s a lot of fear
that looking at the candy

behind the glass window,

and your nose is pressed against
the candy store window --

But if Danny Heinrich doesn´t
say where Jacob´s body is,

that answer may
never be resolved.

I had gone with my
girlfriends on a getaway,

and I came home on Sunday,
and Jerry went to work Monday.

He comes on Monday night.
We´re just standing around

trying to figure out
what to fix for dinner

when somebody
is pounding on our door.

I mean, pounding.

And it was Jared´s lawyer.
We never had a lawyer.

We had no reason
to have a lawyer.

Um, and he -- he asked to come
in and he said

that the U.S. attorney
had called him

and said that they believe
that -- that Danny

might be willing to talk.

How many times
had we been asked, um,

"Do you want answers
or do you want justice?"

You know, I´m like, I don´t care
about -- I want answers.

You know, that was
my whole purpose for being.

So he came in and he said,

"I don´t know all
the terms of the detail,

but, um, they´d like
to present him to you

and see if you´re willing
to sign off on a plea.

Could you come down
to Minneapolis tomorrow?"

And the Wetterlings, as
they had been saying since 1989,

was they just wanted
to find their son.

And so there was no resistance
by the Wetterling family.

Myself and another
FBI agent went

and got Heinrich out of jail

and transported him
to the outskirts of Paynesville,

where he used to live at the
time that Jacob was abducted.

One of the, uh,
crime scene members,

uh, had a, uh, metal detector

and started going over the areas
that Heinrich had pointed out

and then the location he thought
was most likely

the crime scene was there.

I don´t -- And I don´t know if
it was that the metal detector

went off or,
while he was doing that,

he noticed
a little bit of red cloth,

which ultimately, uh,
was, uh, the jacket

that Jacob was wearing.

And so it was right
at the surface.

They asked if we wanted
to, um -- to go out there

and see where -- where it was.

And so Jerry and I
jumped in the car

and -- and drove
to a gas station,

and then we jumped in their car.

And it was on private property.

So we were -- I was, like,
ducking because, like Colleen,

I´m recognizable, and I didn´t
want anybody to know

because that would be
the giveaway

of what they were doing.
The police were brilliant.

They wore -- like they were
doing road construction,

they wore regular clothes.

Not one uniform or squad car
in sight.

They had orange vests on
and work shirts, you know.

It was -- It was awesome.

This man who owns a farm,
he has five boys.

They´re playing football
in the yard.

It was just so...surreal.

So we drive through that
and get down to this --

this spot.
They parked, and, um,

we could see
where they were digging

in this kind of
grove of trees and, um...

It was --
It was really unbelievable.

Surreal is again...

But it was unbelievably
peaceful.

There´s cows in the pasture.

There´s this grove of trees.
It´s really pretty.

And I thought, "If this is where
he is, he was at peace."

And it was far gentler
than many of the scenarios

we´d been run through, you know.

Very straightforward,

said that he had no reason
to be in St. Joe that night.

He just selected a place to go.

He was looking for a boy.

He saw the boys biking
to the store

and he just went up the road,

figured they´d have to come back
this way, and waited.

He told them the same thing
that Trevor had said.

He took the gun and, you know,

Jacob walked with him
down the driveway,

and then he pushed him
in the car.

He handcuffed him

and Jacob said,
"What did I do wrong?"

And he said to just bend over
to --

so nobody could see him

and he drove down --
down the hill

and went out
onto the county road,

which leads to the interstate.

So he´s on I-94,
which is the major thoroughfare.

And he drove I don´t know
how many -- ten miles or so

and then dropped down
to where Paynesville is,

taking back county roads.
He went to a gravel pit

and he said he parked the car,
let Jacob out.

Must have uncuffed him,
told him to strip down.

And he s--
He said he --

he molested him.

We were not given
a lot of detail about that.

We were told that
he didn´t penetrate Jacob.

At this point,
my entire family is sobbing,

and it´s like,
"Sheriff, stop. Just stop.

Let us breathe for a minute."
And so he did.

He was very monotone.
I´m sure it was hard for him.

So when everybody settled,
he then said that he --

Jacob asked -- said he was cold,
and Danny told him

he could get dressed,
and Jacob asked to go home.

"Can you take me home?"

And he said, "I can´t."

And then he said
he had to take a piss.

He told Jacob to turn
the other way and he shot him.

He didn´t fall down right away,
so he shot him a second time.

He said he then went home,
and later that night,

he brought a shovel
and he was going to bury Jacob.

But it was a little shovel,
like a military shovel,

and he realized,
this is a gravel pit,

it´s taking too long.
And so he saw one

of those land-mover things
that they use --

I can´t even remember
what it´s called --

and he knew where
they kept the key.

So he uses this big old
machinery to dig a hole,

and he put Jacob and --
and his jacket on top

and just buried him.

And then he´d walk by.
Almost daily,

he´d walk to that site
and make sure...

But a year later, he saw red.

He´s -- He -- He went over there
and that hockey jacket had --

you know,
there´s brush and stuff,

and it grew up
and it brought the jacket up.

And so then he went back
that night and he unburied Jacob

and went across the road
to this farmer´s field

and -- and dug a hole
and put him there.

When they went to where
he said Jacob was,

they found the jacket.
It had risen up again.

It´s like Jacob wanted
to be found.

He led us there.

I think he led this whole
journey, the whole 27 years,

and a lot of good things
happened

for other kids and stuff,
but he was ready to be found.

And so they found
his jacket first, and --

and he was mostly buried there.

Less than a half hour
after hearing Danny Heinrich´s

horrific confession in court,

the Wetterling family and
investigators faced the media.

Finally, we know.

We know what the Wetterling
family and all of Minnesota

have longed to know
since that awful night in 1989.

We know the truth.

Danny Heinrich is no longer
a person of interest.

He is the confessed murderer
of Jacob Wetterling.

It was horrific.

It was not the ending you
ever -- you pray and pray for.

But Jacob was at peace.
He couldn´t be hurt any more.

And the man went to prison.

In September of 2016,
um...

...after 28 years
of searching for Jacob...

...um, his body was discovered

and they were able to arrest
the man who had kidnapped Jacob

and assaulted him
and taken his life that night.

When -- When Jacob
was recovered,

the National Center was working
with law enforcement

and with Patty and Jerry
and their family,

and they -- one of the things
they asked them

is "What --
what can we do right now?

What can we do to help?"
And Patty said,

"You can´t let Colleen..."

...find out about this on TV.

And so they called
our police chief,

Russell White, and he called me
on Saturday morning

and said, I-I need to come
to the house and talk to you.

It´s not about Morgan´s case.

And, um, he came over here

and told me
that Jacob was deceased.

And, um, that time,
probably out of everything

that I´ve ever faced
in all these years,

probably broke my hope

more than anything
to that point.

You know, just because I knew
how hard

and how tirelessly Patty
and Jerry had fought for Jacob

and I -- and I know
his brothers and sisters,

and I´ve been to their house,
and they´ve been to my house,

and they´re just
my heart friends,

and knowing that Jacob
was never going to come home...

And that they had to make a deal
with the man

who stole Jacob
and -- and took his life.

They had to make a deal, um,
to get the truth.

And he will be punished,

but he will not ever be punished
the way

that he should be
for what he did.

This lead was, I think,
different in the intensity

from a lot of things
that we´ve had in the past.

You know, we have the red truck,
and we have a person

who has committed these types
of crimes multiple times

throughout their life.
Um...

And, you know, the thought that
it could be connected

to Morgan...

I mean, I think
the possibility is strong

that it´s connected to Morgan.

But what if it´s not?

You know, what if it´s not?

I´m not putting everything
I have on this lead.

You know, the waiting period

since everything
went off to Quantico,

to the FBI lab, at first,
it was incredibly intense,

just waiting, knowing that --
hoping that Morgan´s case

would be a priority,
that they would be

working on it right away.

But honestly, as time
has kind of gone by,

it feels like things have
kind of gone back to normal.

All of that anxiety
and craziness

has really settled down.
And we´ve been here before.

We´ve been in this place,
where we´re waiting for the lab

at Quantico
to go through evidence.

And so this is something
we´ve done.

I know how to do this.

And while we´re waiting
for that,

our encouragement
to law enforcement

is don´t get tunnel vision.
Don´t get stuck on that,

because there are other things
we can keep looking at

while we´re waiting
to get this back.

I don´t want anyone to miss
something in the meantime.

And, you know, our hope
was to get that information

back very quickly,
but, you know, the world

is, um, incredibly
upside down right now,

and I -- you know,
it keeps pushing us back.

And so when it gets done, it
gets done, and then we´ll know.

Last year was hard,
but here we are,

still standing, still fighting.

And if this comes
back inconclusive,

that´s what I´m going to do.
I´m just going to keep

fighting for her.

The only one thing that was
of interest is item 32?

Item 32, yeah.
Okay.

We just wanted to follow up
with some questions

to make sure that
we understood the results.

So on Item 32,
there´s the dashboard.

There was --
There was blood found there.

Do you recall where that was
found out on the dashboard?

Was that below, was it on top?
Do you remember?

It appears it might be
a little bit towards the left.

It´s kind of a little bit
hard to tell.

Okay.
So to also verify,
that we´re --

that it´s -- there´s
enough there to determine

that blood was detected,

but not enough to, uh, develop
any kind of DNA on it, correct?

Correct. It was --
Like I said, um,

when it was tested, we could
say that blood was indicated.

So we have two tests.
We can do presumptive test,

which we can add chemicals
and the swab will turn pink,

which makes -- basically we can
say then blood is indicated.

And then we have a confirmatory
test, if we have enough there.

There was not enough there
for us

to do the confirmatory tests
because we want to preserve

as much as possible
to try to get DNA from it.

And unfortunately, when we
tried to do the DNA test --

when we tried to determine
how much DNA was there,

it came back
as there was no DNA there.

So there were so little DNA,

we couldn´t even detect
the amount of DNA there.

And that happened because
our blood test is so sensitive,

it can detect blood
but not detect DNA.

Okay.

My thought was,
if you´re not even certain

if she´s bleeding?
Correct.

I don´t even know
if you´re going to find

her DNA in the vehicle.

Mm-hmm. Okay.

And after 25 years,
you also have to consider,

um, DNA is going to start
breaking down.

Because with heat and sunlight,

DNA is going to break down
very quickly in a vehicle.

And so that´s going to
break down the DNA,

and you´re not going
to be able to find it.

Okay.
So even if she was

in that vehicle,
you may not be able

to find --
find it in there.

Is it standard that we´ll get
just a similar report

from the trace -- trace
evidence side of the, uh,

laboratory when they have
concluded their portion?

Yes.
Okay.

This wasn´t really
anything to where I was waiting

on the chance to go back and --
and look at Charlie.

I was actually working
the beginning of the case,

and, you know,
Charlie kind of stays

in the forefront of your mind.

Technically,
Charlie Ray Vines

was never officially cleared.

I mean, he´s still
a-a viable suspect,

and the way the bureau likes
to work is we want the evidence.

And it doesn´t make sense
to focus just on one person.

And we can do two things
at once. We can --

While evidence is being
processed in the lab,

we can go back and look
at Charlie Ray Vines

and, uh -- and continue
our investigation with him

because maybe it is him.
We don´t know.

We just go where
the evidence leads us,

and because he´s still
a viable, um, suspect,

we will continue, uh, the
investigation on him as well.

It was believed at that
time by the investigators

working the case that Charlie
was actually a serial killer.

So it´s one of those things
that,

for the Alma Police Department
and I think investigators

within this area, Charlie Vines
has always stayed,

uh, at the top of the radar.

Because when you have somebody
that, during the time period

that Morgan was abducted,
is active

and they are actively
committing murders,

crimes,
during that time period --

I mean, we´re talking
10 minutes down the road.

So you have to focus
on those people

and you have to look at them

and do your due diligence
to either clear them

or prove that they did commit
this abduction.

I was able to present Morgan´s
case to some investigators

with much better experience
in -- from major cities,

and during that, also presented
Charlie Vines,

because it is one of
those things in this area

you´re looking for the obvious,
for one thing.

He is the obvious.

Anything this way or does
it stop at this fence?

It stops at the fence.
Alright.

Alright. This way, bud.
Come on. This way. This way.

Y-You know, with looking
at Charlie Vines, um,

his last victim
was much younger.

And in one of the reports,
I actually read

that when he went to the house,

he believed the mother
was going to be there.

And when she wasn´t there,
there was a 16-year-old.

It was a moment of, "Well,
this is better than nothing."

And so that became the
opportunity -- not preferred,

but the opportunity.
And so you have to theorize that

if the timing
were such that he was

in an opportune place
or moment --

um, for instance, you know,

ball fields on a -- on a Friday
or Saturday night --

that we have to consider
that as a possibility.

And -- And it is certainly
within the realm

of, uh, something he would do,

based on what we know about him.

May not be what he would prefer
to do, but it would --

it would be something
he certainly possibly could do.

We, as investigators,
try our best

not to become, uh,
tunnel-visioned.

So, uh, while results are, uh,
being pumped through, uh,

the lab for, uh,
other suspects,

such as Lincks, um,

we don´t want to waste time
and lose momentum.

So we´re going to go back
to Vines´ property

and, uh, finish up
what we need to do there.

I do know that they had
a comparison sample

of Morgan´s hair,
and they were going to use that

to compare with the hair that
they found within the truck.

We were hoping that it
would match, um, Morgan´s hair,

which would, you know, give us
an answer.

It... So...

"The inability to associate
the person´s items

through microscopic
hair fiber examination

does not necessarily mean
the person or items of interest

had no contact."
Right.

Okay. So that could be
a number of factors.

They´re saying it could have
gotten there from direct contact

or indirect contact
or other unknown factors.

Correct.

Or the hair/fibers transferred,
or the known sample

submitted may not
be representative of the source.

Yeah.

After our review, we were able
to look at the documents

and see that the, um --
the hair that was involved

in the trace evidence, uh,
it came back inconclusive.

There just wasn´t
enough information to --

to pull anything from it.

Well.
Okay.

It´s actually good news,
I suppose.

Yeah.
It´s helpful.

Just continue on then.
Yeah.

Inconclusive doesn´t necessarily
mean it´s not Morgan´s hair.

Um, they´re just saying that
there´s not enough information

to disprove that.

So with any investigation,
I mean, you continue on.

I feel like we have
really good momentum right now.

Special Agent Robert Allen and I
are really motivated.

But with that being said,
just because we come

to a stopping point
for one person

doesn´t mean we get tunnel
vision on that one person.

We have to go back to, um, the
other people we´re looking at.

You know,
sometimes peace is hard to find

in the middle
of all this craziness --

all this craziness
from last year.

And I feel like I lost sight
of the possibilities

and really got focused
on the probabilities.

When investigating
child predators,

typically, those suspects
fall between two categories.

There´s groomers
and then there are abductors.

Anyone who abducts a child,
I mean, it typically

isn´t just a spur of the moment
type thing.

We like to call it trolling.

Typically, these people go
around trolling neighborhoods,

trolling ball diamonds,
playgrounds,

and things like that,
looking for what they would see

to be the perfect victim.

In the Wetterling investigation,

Danny Heinrich had
no relation, uh, to Jacob

and it actually was
a stranger abduction.

Uh, the same idea
could technically go

for the Morgan Nick
investigation.

It is not unlikely Morgan Nick
was abducted by a stranger,

which would then also allow

for the possibility
of Location #7

or even the hilltop
to be a viable location.

You know, the probability says

that 2% of missing children
like Morgan,

who are abducted by a stranger,

who are missing more
than two years --

the probability that they will
come home is only 2%.

Which means 98% of children
like Morgan,

who are missing more
than two years,

kidnapped by a stranger,
they don´t survive.

You can´t help but look at that,

within the Wetterling
investigation,

that Danny Heinrich
was looked at

within the first two months
of the investigation.

And if you go back and look at
the Morgan Nick investigation,

Billy Jack Lincks was also
looked at pretty early,

as well as also involved
in a 10th abduction.

The possibility
is that 2% do survive.

That means that,
until someone can prove

that Morgan didn´t survive,
the possibility remains

that she survived --
until someone can prove it.

And we have
literally never had --

never had hair, fibers, blood,

DNA, clothing, anything at all

that would cause us to think
Morgan didn´t survive.

What you have
with Morgan Nick´s case

is an ongoing victimization,
right?

I mean, it´s -- it´s -- it´s --
until it gets its closure,

you don´t get to,
you know,

be that investigator in
the distance passed

that, you know,
it´s a daily reminder.

We´re -- Poor Colleen´s
reminded every day.

So I-I get it that
to everyone else,

it might look
like a foregone conclusion

that Morgan didn´t survive,
and I understand that.

But I -- Standing over here
on my side,

knowing that 2% of children
like Morgan survive...

Bless her heart, she --
she talks to us

and -- and is helpful and, uh --

But you hope to get them
justice and closure

and, um, let them move on
with their life.

You want that someday.
But, you know,

with this kind of --
this is the worst of all

the kind of cases to deal with
because it´s -- it´s ongoing

and it has been for 24+ years.

Elizabeth Smart, the three girls
from Ohio, Shawn Hornbeck --

all of these kids
survived in captivity

and nobody knew about it.

And yet Jaycee Dugard
waited 18 years to be rescued.

Not every child...

who is kidnapped dies.

A small percentage survive.

And so my fight is for that
small percentage,

in case Morgan fell
into that 2%,

for the possibility --
the tiny little possibility --

as long as that possibility
is there,

then my fight is
to bring her home.

We didn´t expect results.
You know, 25+ years later,

we´re probably not going to get
DNA out of a truck --

a truck that´s been processed by
a state crime lab years earlier.

After that amount
of time, it´s hard to imagine

that the blood and hair
would be intact.

Um, after 25 or 26 years, it
would be, um, almost a miracle.

You know,
out of our due diligence,

when we send
all these parts off,

we´re sending as much stuff
that we can, including knowns.

And, uh, you know, one of the
items that we sent as a known

was a-a Girl Scout shirt

that uh, is supposed to be
the same age, type of shirt,

uh, you know, make, model,
run as -- as the shirt

that Morgan Nick was wearing
when she disappeared.

So...

fibers from the mat
under the seat

and fibers from floor mat,
driver´s side,

carpet, driver´s side,

metal pieces
from carpet,

padding from driver´s side,
and bracket from driver´s side,

all those items
have fiber that...

...that the characteristics
and optical properties

are the same
as the known sample.

Correct. The blue-green cotton
fiber recovered from those items

exhibit the same microscopic
and optical properties

as the shirt.

It also says, "Accordingly,
these fibers are consistent

with originating from an item
comprised of the fibers

that exhibit the same
microscopic characteristics

and optical properties
of that shirt."

"Due to the variability
in manufacturing,

dyeing, and consumer use,
one would not expect

to encounter
a fiber selected at random

to be consistent
with a particular item."

After the lab analyzed
the, uh, contents found

within the cab
from Lincks´ truck,

they were able to observe
greenish-blue fibers

that match microscopically
and optically

the sample -- the green
Girl Scout T-shirt

that Morgan was wearing
at the time of her abduction.

It´s highly unlikely that
those fibers would match

just a random material
thrown at it to be compared,

analyzed, and tested because of
the manufacturing process,

the screenprinting process --
all the processes that a shirt

goes through
to end up at its end phase,

all of that affects it on
a microscopic and optic level.

And that for us to have a known
and those fibers to match,

it really strongly eliminated
other possibilities

of just random things
matching that

or incidentally matching that.

The lab technician was
able to determine that it is

highly unlikely that the fibers
found within the truck

would come from
a different material.

Which, uh, to us,
starts to arm us with --

well, we finally have something
that is, um, going to allow us

to be more pointed in our
investigation towards subjects.

To me, it harms us with --
with enough significance

that now we can say,
"This is a person

that we can push away effort
and resources on other subjects

and reallocate them to this one

and do a full court press
on this one subject."

The glasses interest me,
and the glasses interest me

because of
the witness statements.

Both of those witnesses
actually watched him drive

and they both
put glasses on him.

And that´s what he had to have
corrective lenses

when he drove.

And then look at this again,
and once again...

So this is the same guy
that did our Identikit.

So that tells me composites
aren´t worth a shit.

I´m damn sure not seeing
anybody better for it

than he is, and I think he got
his courage with her,

and that´s why he did
what he did.

I´m telling you right now,
when he tried to get her

to come back to the truck
and pick that cigarette butt up,

that was his end.

And that´s when he would have
put her in the truck.

At the time,
I remember thinking --

because we had a Chevy truck.
It kind of re--

It reminded me of that.

Just the way it was shaped --
the squareness,

the boxiness of it.

Square headlights.
That´s the same as ours.

Square taillights.

When I look at it,

I feel very strong

that it´s probably
actually him.

I´ll be honest with you.
At the moment,

I don´t want it to be him,

because we´re fucked if it is.