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Uh, C block here
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is our protective custody
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for those that are convicted
of sex crimes,
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uh, anything from,
you know, rape
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or anything to sexual assault,
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uh, an adult or child victim,
uh, are housed here.
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These are convicted, uh,
that are waiting to go
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to the Arkansas
Department of Corrections.
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We keep them segregated
from general population.
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Um, you know, there is --
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Uh, even though this is jail,
there is still honor.
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And these -- these type
of -- of inmates
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aren´t welcomed in --
in general population.
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I don´t understand sex crimes,
you know,
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um, especially when it becomes
an adult and a child.
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I don´t see how a -- an adult
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can be sexually
attracted to a child.
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my belief is that they
can´t be rehabilitated.
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You know, I know
the -- the state,
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like other states,
has programs for them.
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But, uh, I believe
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that, uh, if you´re sexually
attracted to a child,
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you´re probably twisted
beyond un-twisting.
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Whatcha got, there, Morgan?
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- Bike.
- A bike?
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- Yep, my new bike.
- Is that your first bike?
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- Yep, my new bike from Walmart.
It´s a big bike.
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- It is? Oh, it´s got
training wheels on it.
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- Yep.
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So, want me
to ride it right now?
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- Hold on. I´m gonna take the
picture. Say cheese, though.
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We were in the military.
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And so we came
to Arkansas in 1993.
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When we got out of the military,
we came here.
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Our family was here.
It was, you know, his family,
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my family, they were all here,
so we wanted to come back home.
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We´d been gone
for almost 10 years,
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and we just wanted to come back
home where our families were at.
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You like your bike?
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- Yeah.
- Alright.
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We ended up moving to Ozark.
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Our families were, um,
Alma, Dyer, Fort Smith.
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And I wanted to be
a stay-at-home mom.
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You know, I wanted
to be at home with my kids,
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um, invest in their lives.
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I didn´t want to have
to take them to daycare.
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And so I actually started
a licensed daycare in my home
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so, you know, that we could
supplement our income,
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and I could still be home
with my children.
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So I had a licensed daycare.
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I had children who came
to my house every day.
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Turn all the way around,
Brandon.
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You look like a farm boy.
Ooh, I like...
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Had been then also doing daycare
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on the weekends and
in the evenings, so just a lot.
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And, um, in May of 1995,
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I had stopped all of
my nighttime, overnight daycare
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and my weekends,
because I just wanted to be able
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to spend some more time
with my children.
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You want to just put it
on her head?
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- How much do you love me?
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- I really do love you.
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- How much?
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- Very much, Morgan.
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This is a little girl
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who has a laugh
that comes from way down here.
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Um, when she was in
the first grade,
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she signed up --
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She brought home papers
to sign up for track.
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And we filled out all the papers
and sent them back to school.
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And they had their first
track practice at school.
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And, so, when she came home,
she was so mad, and she said,
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"Do you know what they
make you do in track?
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I had to go outside and run,
and I was sweating," you know,
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two things that she didn´t like
to do, run and sweat.
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And so, um, she quit, and
she signed up for Girl Scouts,
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because she said that they could
stay inside and glue stuff.
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- Mom?
- What?
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- Hello. Um,
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c-could we play
with the markers now?
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- Watch.
- Rat girls.
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You look like a rat.
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Hi.
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- You know, hope is a --
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a mind-set, so, well,
I´d like to believe
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that we will recover Morgan
alive and safely.
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but I´m also a realist,
and most people in my job are.
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Uh, and so is Colleen,
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that we know that the chances
of that are higher
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that we won´t than we will.
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Uh, those percentages change
a little bit periodically
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and -- but it´s quite a bit
to the favor that we won´t.
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But it does happen.
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It´s not impossible,
which keeps hope alive.
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And then, the other part of that
is that, you know,
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you got to consider
the -- the consequences.
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If we find her,
and she´s safe and alive,
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um, you know, there´s --
there´s still --
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there´s still consequences.
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There´s probably been
other victims
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because of our failure
to be able to solve this case,
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and, um, there´ll be more.
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And so that becomes
a high priority,
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is to -- to, uh, keep
from having other victims,
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whether it´s in
our jurisdiction or not.
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Catch it, Ryan! Catch it!
Come on, catch it!
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This all began
on a Friday night,
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uh, at a baseball field
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in what would I´d call
downtown Alma.
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It was actually about a block,
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maybe a block and a half
from the police department.
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Literally just like
any -- any other day.
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It´s a Friday. Um,
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we get up.
Everybody has breakfast.
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You know, the daycare kids
are coming for the day.
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So, you know,
we have activities planned
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and, you know,
the little kids had crafts.
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And what I specifically remember
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is really making
grilled cheese sandwiches
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for dinner that night, because
my kids loved grilled cheese.
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And we were planning
to meet up with our friends.
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They´d invited us
to come see one of their kids
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play in this Little League
baseball game in Alma.
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And, um, the kids ate dinner.
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And I specifically
remember, uh...
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I remember Morgan asking
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for a second sandwich.
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And I didn´t really
have time to cook it.
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And she wasn´t a real big eater,
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so I didn´t really think
that she needed it,
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and I didn´t make it for her.
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And so that --
that still bothers me.
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The kids went home
probably around 5:00.
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And, you know,
I gave all my kids baths.
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Morgan and I got ready
to go to the game,
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and then the two little ones
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were going to go
to -- to Grandma´s house.
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And I felt like
it would be impossible
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to keep up with all of them
at the game,
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so we were going
to drop them off with Grandma
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and then, you know, go with our
friends to the baseball game.
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It was a makeup game.
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Uh, we´d had a lot of rain
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the week before, and so
the games were being made up.
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And so it was running
a little late
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for a ballgame
for kids that age.
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It´s a little field.
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It´s got a, um -- a double fence
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that goes all the way around it.
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It´s got two little sets
of bleachers,
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one on the first baseline,
one on the third baseline,
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and, you know, it just opens
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onto these two
little parking areas.
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There´s no concession stands.
There´s no bathrooms.
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And so we just stayed
in the upper parking area
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waiting for the game to finish.
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And when it finished,
then we walked down
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and sat in the bleachers
on the first baseline.
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Colleen was there.
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They were watching
a friend´s kid play ball.
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Um, Morgan´s, uh,
I´m not going to say
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super shy, but she´s not --
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I mean, she´s not
in her element.
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So she´s sitting with her mom.
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Uh, there´s some
other children there,
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and they´re wanting her
to go play.
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Morgan sat with me.
You know, she was 6 years old.
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She was a little bit
on the shy side,
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a little bit quiet.
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And she didn´t want
to go play with them,
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and she just wanted
to sit with me.
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And I remember
she kept untying my shoes,
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and I had to pretend like,
"Oh, my gosh.
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How did that happen?
How did my shoe get untied?"
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And she would just
laugh and laugh.
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You know, it was just
the most hilarious thing to her.
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- They go back and forth
quite a bit,
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I think, those two kids,
and anyway, at some point,
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Colleen lets her go,
plays with the kids.
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Right before the game ended,
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they, um, came back again
and asked her to go play,
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and they asked her if she wanted
to catch fireflies.
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And, um, she wanted to go.
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It was the first time that
she had wanted to all night.
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And I told her
that she couldn´t.
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And I told her
that I just thought
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it was too late and too dark.
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And, you know,
she continued to, um, ask me.
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I was thinking about the times
that I had been told
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that I was too overprotective
as a parent,
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that, you know,
I need to find space
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to let my kids
have a little bit of freedom.
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You know, I walked my kids
to the bus stop every day,
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walked back and met them,
walked them home.
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It was just down the block.
But to me,
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it just seemed like those were
the right things to do.
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So that was on my mind,
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you know,
that I´m too overprotective.
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And my friends said, you know,
"Kids have been playing here.
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I mean, it´s perfectly safe."
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And kids had been
playing all night.
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They´re running back and forth.
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I mean, it´s this double fence.
It´s this double fence.
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There are no concessions.
There are no bathrooms,
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just -- just these cars
in the flat area
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and this row of cars
up on the top.
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And we can clearly see, uh --
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We can clearly see all of it
to our left-hand side there.
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You know, we´re
facing the field.
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Um, the parking lot
is to our left.
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And that´s when I had,
uh, that feeling like
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something was wrong.
Something wasn´t right.
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It, you know, it just kind of --
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And I thought to myself,
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"I´m -- I´m being ridiculous.
I´m overprotective."
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Uh, and I know
it doesn´t make sense,
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but I just had the feeling
that something was really
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not okay in that moment.
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You know, she, uh --
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she really wanted to go
catch those fireflies, and...
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I think the thing
I remember most
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is, um...
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...how happy she was
when I told her she could go.
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And she just, you know,
flung her arms around my neck
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in a big, old hug and, um...
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kissed me on the cheek.
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She, uh, climbed down out of
the stands with her two friends
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and -- and ran together
with them.
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Um, and I remember them
running in front of her,
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´cause she was a little bit
smaller than them.
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Running out, uh,
between the gates
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and playing
in front of the cars.
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they were -- they were
chasing each other
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in, um -- in single file,
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and she was the very last one.
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And I just looked up
as they were running across.
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You know, she had on her little,
um, green Girl Scout T-shirt,
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because you know Girl Scouts
can stay inside and glue stuff.
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And, um,
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she was just
the last one in the row.
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And, um, and she was
focused on them.
242
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She never --
She didn´t look down,
243
00:13:35,846 --> 00:13:39,289
but I looked at her
running across with them
244
00:13:39,289 --> 00:13:41,451
and turned back to the game.
245
00:13:46,196 --> 00:13:49,329
And that was
the last time I saw her.
246
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Good job.
247
00:13:54,304 --> 00:13:55,566
Good job.
248
00:13:55,566 --> 00:13:58,438
- They´re in this
sort of a parking lot.
249
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It´s not an official
parking lot,
250
00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,342
but it is an area
where people park.
251
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It´s to the east,
and it´s up on a hill
252
00:14:04,274 --> 00:14:05,976
overlooking the ball field.
253
00:14:05,976 --> 00:14:08,619
It´s actually where Colleen
had parked that night.
254
00:14:08,619 --> 00:14:11,852
And they were playing
in a sand pile
255
00:14:11,852 --> 00:14:14,625
back at the back side
of that area where they parked.
256
00:14:14,625 --> 00:14:16,587
They were kind of all
around the parking lot.
257
00:14:16,587 --> 00:14:19,229
They´re kids.
They´re just out there playing.
258
00:14:19,229 --> 00:14:21,992
Right before
the ball game ended,
259
00:14:21,992 --> 00:14:24,935
and they were -- they were
all coming back down.
260
00:14:24,935 --> 00:14:29,540
And apparently, she stopped
to get sand out of her shoes,
261
00:14:29,540 --> 00:14:32,973
uh, and had sat down
on the ground to do that.
262
00:15:14,945 --> 00:15:17,688
By all accounts, that´s the last
time that we know of somebody --
263
00:15:17,688 --> 00:15:21,391
were able to identify somebody
that saw her past that point.
264
00:15:24,494 --> 00:15:26,497
First of all, tell me what
we´re doing out here tonight.
265
00:15:26,497 --> 00:15:29,029
Okay. We got a call about,
266
00:15:29,029 --> 00:15:32,132
uh, I believe it was
at 11:07 p.m.
267
00:15:32,132 --> 00:15:36,306
Uh, had a missing child at
the Alma Little League Ballpark
268
00:15:36,306 --> 00:15:38,238
on Walnut Street here in Alma,
269
00:15:38,238 --> 00:15:41,441
just about a block and a half
west of our location here.
270
00:15:41,441 --> 00:15:44,474
Uh, got down there
and of course just started
271
00:15:44,474 --> 00:15:48,318
to check the area, hoping
to find the -- the child.
272
00:15:48,318 --> 00:15:50,280
Our officer, uh, Sergeant Harris
273
00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,452
was the first officer to arrive.
274
00:15:52,452 --> 00:15:54,424
At that time,
I was only like a mile away.
275
00:15:54,424 --> 00:15:56,386
It was right there
on 64 highway.
276
00:15:56,386 --> 00:15:58,559
And soon as I pull up,
I see a group of people.
277
00:15:58,559 --> 00:16:00,160
We rallied at
the police department,
278
00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,032
then went down to the ballpark.
279
00:16:02,032 --> 00:16:05,365
Sergeant Harris was giving us
some preliminary information.
280
00:16:05,365 --> 00:16:07,297
- I see Colleen there,
281
00:16:07,297 --> 00:16:10,601
which I knew Colleen from Ozark
from years past.
282
00:16:10,601 --> 00:16:14,444
- They noticed Morgan
missing somewhere around 10:40
283
00:16:14,444 --> 00:16:18,308
but thought she just walked off.
And so the --
284
00:16:18,308 --> 00:16:21,111
Colleen and the parents around
there were looking for her.
285
00:16:21,111 --> 00:16:23,654
- You know, I thought it was
more of a missing child,
286
00:16:23,654 --> 00:16:26,587
maybe a, you know,
a grandmother, grandfather,
287
00:16:26,587 --> 00:16:28,458
you know, miscommunicating
with the parents
288
00:16:28,458 --> 00:16:29,590
and picking up the child.
289
00:16:29,590 --> 00:16:31,361
But once I arrived back,
290
00:16:31,361 --> 00:16:33,393
and we started actually,
you know,
291
00:16:33,393 --> 00:16:36,597
planning on -- on processing
a crime scene,
292
00:16:36,597 --> 00:16:38,599
I knew it was more,
293
00:16:38,599 --> 00:16:41,401
you know, than that,
than just a lost child.
294
00:16:41,401 --> 00:16:43,574
I went up to Colleen
and started talking to her,
295
00:16:43,574 --> 00:16:45,405
and she said,
"We can´t find Morgan.
296
00:16:45,405 --> 00:16:46,707
We´ve looked and looked
and looked,
297
00:16:46,707 --> 00:16:48,709
and we can´t find her."
So at that time,
298
00:16:48,709 --> 00:16:50,440
I started looking
and getting some more officers.
299
00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,412
And I called Russell and told
Russell, I said, "Hey,
300
00:16:52,412 --> 00:16:54,484
we got a missing child down here
at the ball field."
301
00:16:54,484 --> 00:16:56,687
- You know,
my assignment that night
302
00:16:56,687 --> 00:16:58,619
was -- was the crime scene.
303
00:16:58,619 --> 00:17:03,524
And, uh, we roped it off
with crime scene tape.
304
00:17:03,524 --> 00:17:06,226
- Uh, it was a loose,
unorganized search.
305
00:17:06,226 --> 00:17:09,299
It was just parents and people
that were down there,
306
00:17:09,299 --> 00:17:11,502
uh, you know, looking for her.
307
00:17:11,502 --> 00:17:15,105
Immediately, the public
was not organized at all.
308
00:17:15,105 --> 00:17:16,507
They´re -- They´re on their own.
309
00:17:16,507 --> 00:17:18,338
Course, we have
no communication with them.
310
00:17:18,338 --> 00:17:20,440
They´re not standing there.
We don´t have a command post.
311
00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,044
So they´re not coming to us
and asking us what to do.
312
00:17:24,044 --> 00:17:28,048
They´re going out on their own
and -- and looking.
313
00:17:28,048 --> 00:17:30,380
Morgan!
314
00:17:30,380 --> 00:17:33,153
- And -- And at some point,
they´re -- they´re reporting
315
00:17:33,153 --> 00:17:36,657
back to us if they see something
or think something´s up.
316
00:17:36,657 --> 00:17:39,389
Uh, the officers, uh, by radio,
317
00:17:39,389 --> 00:17:41,562
uh, you know, we all have
communications together,
318
00:17:41,562 --> 00:17:42,833
even with the other agencies.
319
00:17:42,833 --> 00:17:45,536
So we´re somewhat
keeping up with that.
320
00:17:45,536 --> 00:17:47,538
We´re putting out the--
all these descriptions
321
00:17:47,538 --> 00:17:50,771
that we -- you know,
and things like that.
322
00:17:50,771 --> 00:17:52,673
I made contact with then
323
00:17:52,673 --> 00:17:54,805
I believe he was
the rank of lieutenant
324
00:17:54,805 --> 00:17:57,377
with state police,
Chuck Lambert.
325
00:17:57,377 --> 00:18:00,380
And, uh, we roped it off
with crime scene tape,
326
00:18:00,380 --> 00:18:02,553
uh, they´d brought in. They were
looking for some lights,
327
00:18:02,553 --> 00:18:04,314
wanting to get some lights
and stuff,
328
00:18:04,314 --> 00:18:06,116
even though we had
the ball field lights.
329
00:18:06,116 --> 00:18:10,521
The house just behind the field,
I was facing it.
330
00:18:10,521 --> 00:18:12,162
It had a screened-in porch.
And of course,
331
00:18:12,162 --> 00:18:14,565
this was like 3:00
in the morning by then.
332
00:18:14,565 --> 00:18:17,297
And a guy lights up a cigarette.
333
00:18:17,297 --> 00:18:18,729
And I just -- I said, "Chuck,"
334
00:18:18,729 --> 00:18:20,771
I said, "that guy´s
been watching us."
335
00:18:23,233 --> 00:18:27,137
Chuck hollered at him,
but he wouldn´t respond.
336
00:18:27,137 --> 00:18:29,810
So that kind of sparked
a neighborhood canvass,
337
00:18:29,810 --> 00:18:31,742
you know, to just, you know,
knock on doors,
338
00:18:31,742 --> 00:18:33,584
see if anybody saw anything,
heard anything.
339
00:18:33,584 --> 00:18:35,485
- So, Russell got there,
and we started calling
340
00:18:35,485 --> 00:18:38,619
more people out then
and more people and more people.
341
00:18:38,619 --> 00:18:42,152
We saturated the area.
And at that time, uh,
342
00:18:42,152 --> 00:18:45,155
it rained. We had --
It was flooded and stuff,
343
00:18:45,155 --> 00:18:47,157
and we had to be real careful
where we went
344
00:18:47,157 --> 00:18:48,559
and all that stuff.
345
00:18:48,559 --> 00:18:50,300
You couldn´t get out
into the fields hardly,
346
00:18:50,300 --> 00:18:51,532
but we did, you know?
347
00:18:51,532 --> 00:18:53,163
- It´s still pretty random.
348
00:18:53,163 --> 00:18:55,806
We don´t have a direction
to look at that point.
349
00:18:55,806 --> 00:18:58,308
We´re just looking.
We´re hoping to --
350
00:18:58,308 --> 00:18:59,670
´Cause we´ve got just a --
You know,
351
00:18:59,670 --> 00:19:02,613
we -- we know our time period
was short there,
352
00:19:02,613 --> 00:19:06,146
to, if she´s in a vehicle,
to try to -- to locate her.
353
00:19:12,853 --> 00:19:16,527
Where we believe
that she was last seen
354
00:19:16,527 --> 00:19:20,591
was on a hilltop
just overlooking the ball field.
355
00:19:20,591 --> 00:19:22,933
And there were things.
You know, there was, uh,
356
00:19:22,933 --> 00:19:25,295
if I´m not mistaken,
a couple Coke cans,
357
00:19:25,295 --> 00:19:27,437
you know, cigarette butts,
you know, things that we thought
358
00:19:27,437 --> 00:19:30,370
that maybe we can get DNA off of
or fingerprints off of.
359
00:19:30,370 --> 00:19:33,203
Any tire tracks
or any footprints in the sand
360
00:19:33,203 --> 00:19:34,905
or right around
the sand there, like,
361
00:19:34,905 --> 00:19:38,208
I don´t recall us seeing any
footprints or anything like that
362
00:19:38,208 --> 00:19:40,911
and any, uh, tire tracks.
363
00:19:40,911 --> 00:19:43,654
And we looked at so many things
right in that area.
364
00:19:43,654 --> 00:19:46,316
And so there was nothing
that really stood out.
365
00:19:46,316 --> 00:19:47,558
- You know, we picked up
366
00:19:47,558 --> 00:19:48,819
everything that was
on the ground,
367
00:19:48,819 --> 00:19:50,761
anything that was
on the ground there
368
00:19:50,761 --> 00:19:52,863
that wasn´t a rock
that would have been there
369
00:19:52,863 --> 00:19:55,726
or a blade of grass
that was growing, we collected.
370
00:19:55,726 --> 00:19:57,367
If it was there, we took it,
371
00:19:57,367 --> 00:19:59,229
´cause we didn´t know
if we´d need it or not.
372
00:19:59,229 --> 00:20:02,472
- Where Morgan and the -- the
other children was playing at
373
00:20:02,472 --> 00:20:05,676
is kinda above the bleachers.
It´s on a little hill, right?
374
00:20:05,676 --> 00:20:08,308
There´s like some sand and stuff
there. I remember that.
375
00:20:08,308 --> 00:20:10,280
And that´s where
they was playing at.
376
00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:11,882
And -- But more --
377
00:20:11,882 --> 00:20:14,244
Colleen was down on the
bleachers, and it´s kinda down.
378
00:20:14,244 --> 00:20:16,386
It´s not too far away,
but it´s down, you know?
379
00:20:16,386 --> 00:20:19,219
Back then, that was a parking
lot for the apartments
380
00:20:19,219 --> 00:20:22,923
and also the street
department, it --
381
00:20:22,923 --> 00:20:25,455
That parking lot joined
the street department.
382
00:20:25,455 --> 00:20:26,827
So there were sand piles.
383
00:20:26,827 --> 00:20:29,830
There were culverts
and things like that.
384
00:20:29,830 --> 00:20:34,004
And they were playing with
Morgan, uh, in the sand piles.
385
00:20:34,004 --> 00:20:37,437
- And I recall one of the kids
telling me,
386
00:20:37,437 --> 00:20:39,339
can´t recall which one it was,
but telling me
387
00:20:39,339 --> 00:20:41,672
that there was a man
had come up.
388
00:20:46,517 --> 00:20:49,279
- They describe the guy
as a white male.
389
00:20:49,279 --> 00:20:53,924
Um, has got a, uh, kind of
a scruffy beard.
390
00:20:53,924 --> 00:20:58,729
He´s got, uh, I believe
he´s wearing shorts.
391
00:20:58,729 --> 00:21:01,261
And at some point --
I don´t know if he´s shirtless
392
00:21:01,261 --> 00:21:03,433
or his shirt´s open.
I can´t remember.
393
00:21:03,433 --> 00:21:04,995
But I think they describe him
394
00:21:04,995 --> 00:21:09,870
as having some hair on his --
on his chest and stomach
395
00:21:09,870 --> 00:21:12,402
but not a lot of it,
kind of maybe a strip.
396
00:21:12,402 --> 00:21:15,576
And they had a description
of the vehicle he was driving.
397
00:21:15,576 --> 00:21:17,047
- Was it credible? Was it not?
398
00:21:17,047 --> 00:21:19,349
You know, really,
that´s all we had to go by.
399
00:21:19,349 --> 00:21:23,053
And, you know, they were
playing with Morgan.
400
00:21:23,053 --> 00:21:24,885
Tye and Jessica
were playing with Morgan.
401
00:21:24,885 --> 00:21:29,389
The statement was made that
this suspect in the red truck
402
00:21:29,389 --> 00:21:31,762
with a camper that didn´t fit.
403
00:21:31,762 --> 00:21:34,024
Now, there´s different
definitions
404
00:21:34,024 --> 00:21:37,367
of how it didn´t fit,
but it didn´t fit right on it,
405
00:21:37,367 --> 00:21:40,300
was sitting there, uh,
in the truck
406
00:21:40,300 --> 00:21:41,802
with the door open, smoking.
407
00:21:41,802 --> 00:21:42,873
Two children, the boy and girl,
408
00:21:42,873 --> 00:21:44,835
they went, they told Morgan
409
00:21:44,835 --> 00:21:46,677
they´re going back down there
where Colleen was.
410
00:21:46,677 --> 00:21:48,779
- The kids took off,
all three of them.
411
00:21:48,779 --> 00:21:50,040
Morgan stopped.
412
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:51,582
But they said Morgan said
413
00:21:51,582 --> 00:21:53,684
she´s gonna empty
the sand out of her shoes,
414
00:21:53,684 --> 00:21:56,717
and then she´s gonna come on
back down there and stuff.
415
00:21:56,717 --> 00:22:00,050
- Uh, I believe Tye
stayed back with her.
416
00:22:00,050 --> 00:22:02,623
And as she had finished
tying her shoe,
417
00:22:02,623 --> 00:22:04,625
he took off
running down the hill,
418
00:22:04,625 --> 00:22:07,698
and she hasn´t been seen since.
419
00:22:07,698 --> 00:22:09,630
- That was the last time.
420
00:22:21,542 --> 00:22:24,775
One of the --
One of the children, uh,
421
00:22:24,775 --> 00:22:26,517
was the son of the -- the guy
422
00:22:26,517 --> 00:22:28,378
that Colleen was
sitting with there.
423
00:22:28,378 --> 00:22:30,551
And, uh, so they came back
to the area.
424
00:22:30,551 --> 00:22:33,754
And then Colleen obviously
noticed Morgan wasn´t there,
425
00:22:33,754 --> 00:22:36,527
and she asked where she was at.
426
00:22:36,527 --> 00:22:39,990
Um, they said she had stopped
to take sand out her shoes.
427
00:22:39,990 --> 00:22:43,063
So Colleen looks
in that direction,
428
00:22:43,063 --> 00:22:45,996
and she doesn´t see her,
which is not,
429
00:22:45,996 --> 00:22:47,768
if you´re familiar
with the area,
430
00:22:47,768 --> 00:22:50,671
would not be totally unusual.
With the cars there,
431
00:22:50,671 --> 00:22:53,544
it just depends on
where she actually stopped.
432
00:22:53,544 --> 00:22:56,076
Uh, Colleen didn´t panic
at that point or anything.
433
00:22:56,076 --> 00:22:59,379
She just got up
and started going up that way.
434
00:22:59,379 --> 00:23:02,012
And then of course, obviously,
she didn´t find Morgan.
435
00:23:02,012 --> 00:23:04,484
She didn´t see
any vehicles leaving
436
00:23:04,484 --> 00:23:06,857
as she´s walking up
that she remembers.
437
00:23:06,857 --> 00:23:11,522
Um, so we think that
that short period of time there,
438
00:23:11,522 --> 00:23:14,494
those two or three minutes
that might have occurred
439
00:23:14,494 --> 00:23:16,627
from the time the kids came down
440
00:23:16,627 --> 00:23:19,399
till she actually had
the conversation with Colleen
441
00:23:19,399 --> 00:23:22,773
is when it occurred,
when Morgan disappeared.
442
00:23:22,773 --> 00:23:24,905
We really think
we kind of narrowed it down.
443
00:23:24,905 --> 00:23:27,738
We think it´s a good
possibility it´s a red truck,
444
00:23:27,738 --> 00:23:29,780
still no make,
with a white camper shell.
445
00:23:29,780 --> 00:23:31,712
We don´t want to just
limit it to that.
446
00:23:31,712 --> 00:23:34,845
But that´s what at this time
we believe it´s going to be,
447
00:23:34,845 --> 00:23:37,087
a red pickup with
a white camper,
448
00:23:37,087 --> 00:23:40,120
white male, dark hair,
short dark beard.
449
00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:44,024
And of course the last time
he was seen, uh, no shirt.
450
00:23:44,024 --> 00:23:46,126
- They took Jessica and Tye.
451
00:23:46,126 --> 00:23:49,560
And the Identi-Kit is, uh --
452
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,032
It´s not actually
an artist´s drawing.
453
00:23:52,032 --> 00:23:54,164
It´s just, you know,
you put eyes. You put hair.
454
00:23:54,164 --> 00:23:56,737
You put face, you put beard,
things like that,
455
00:23:56,737 --> 00:23:58,208
and you come up
with a composite.
456
00:23:58,208 --> 00:24:01,071
And that´s the original
suspect composite
457
00:24:01,071 --> 00:24:02,673
came from the Identi-Kit.
458
00:24:02,673 --> 00:24:04,945
- You know, we have to
take into age account.
459
00:24:04,945 --> 00:24:06,647
There´s a couple things
with kids.
460
00:24:06,647 --> 00:24:09,219
They´re -- You know,
they tell you what they saw.
461
00:24:09,219 --> 00:24:12,022
And they´re --
462
00:24:12,022 --> 00:24:14,625
Uh, when you´re interviewing
these kids,
463
00:24:14,625 --> 00:24:16,026
you know, there´s no question
464
00:24:16,026 --> 00:24:18,759
they see things just like
me and you see things,
465
00:24:18,759 --> 00:24:20,691
and they can tell you that.
466
00:24:20,691 --> 00:24:22,533
You know, no matter really
what their age
467
00:24:22,533 --> 00:24:24,064
or if they´re --
if they´re verbal,
468
00:24:24,064 --> 00:24:25,996
uh, they can --
they can tell you.
469
00:24:25,996 --> 00:24:29,670
So the next day, I think, was
when the Identi-Kits were done,
470
00:24:29,670 --> 00:24:32,743
uh, because the kids had seen
somebody in the parking lot,
471
00:24:32,743 --> 00:24:35,806
um, and we needed to know
what that person looked like.
472
00:24:35,806 --> 00:24:39,610
So we were trying to identify
everybody at the ball fields.
473
00:24:39,610 --> 00:24:42,482
Uh, and we knew
there was this one person
474
00:24:42,482 --> 00:24:44,254
that -- that we didn´t know
who it was.
475
00:24:44,254 --> 00:24:45,956
The kids had seen him.
476
00:24:45,956 --> 00:24:48,819
And so the Identi-Kits
were done.
477
00:24:48,819 --> 00:24:51,862
It´s been almost 24 hours
since Morgan disappeared
478
00:24:51,862 --> 00:24:54,965
from the Little League
field in Alma.
479
00:24:54,965 --> 00:24:56,697
You know, there´s a
difference between sitting down
480
00:24:56,697 --> 00:25:00,000
with an interview
that -- that is an interview
481
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,802
and asking the kids questions.
482
00:25:01,802 --> 00:25:04,104
You know, we asked the kids
questions that night,
483
00:25:04,104 --> 00:25:06,106
immediately.
We didn´t sit down
484
00:25:06,106 --> 00:25:08,138
with a formal
interview with them
485
00:25:08,138 --> 00:25:10,641
till several days later.
486
00:25:10,641 --> 00:25:13,013
Uh, but the Identi-Kits
were done the next day.
487
00:25:13,013 --> 00:25:14,985
And you also got to remember,
they were young,
488
00:25:14,985 --> 00:25:17,588
and it was late at night.
They´d been up all day,
489
00:25:17,588 --> 00:25:20,050
uh, you know, so, uh, you know,
490
00:25:20,050 --> 00:25:22,753
3:00 in the morning for a child
that hadn´t been to bed
491
00:25:22,753 --> 00:25:25,125
is not a good time
to be asking them anything.
492
00:25:25,125 --> 00:25:28,028
Because of the short time
that went from
493
00:25:28,028 --> 00:25:30,230
when Morgan was last seen
by the kids
494
00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:32,933
to the time that Colleen
started looking for her
495
00:25:32,933 --> 00:25:35,906
and the fact that she didn´t
see a vehicle leaving
496
00:25:35,906 --> 00:25:39,710
and from what I´ve been
told of Morgan and --
497
00:25:39,710 --> 00:25:42,873
I don´t think Morgan
was coerced into the truck.
498
00:25:42,873 --> 00:25:45,576
I think that it was
more of a grab and go.
499
00:25:45,576 --> 00:25:47,618
I think it happened
very quickly.
500
00:25:47,618 --> 00:25:51,722
Uh, and he probably, on his way
out of the parking lot,
501
00:25:51,722 --> 00:25:54,054
I think he stepped out
of the truck, grabbed her,
502
00:25:54,054 --> 00:25:55,185
put her in, and took off.
503
00:26:09,199 --> 00:26:11,241
Good.
504
00:26:17,147 --> 00:26:19,049
I remember
sitting in the car that night,
505
00:26:19,049 --> 00:26:21,652
and, uh, storms had moved in.
506
00:26:21,652 --> 00:26:24,755
It was raining, lightning.
507
00:26:24,755 --> 00:26:26,757
Wind was blowing hard.
508
00:26:26,757 --> 00:26:29,289
I mean, it was
a bad thunderstorm,
509
00:26:29,289 --> 00:26:30,821
raining real hard.
510
00:26:30,821 --> 00:26:32,623
Trying to act like a hot shot.
511
00:26:32,623 --> 00:26:34,224
Morgan, did you hear
what Daddy said?
512
00:26:34,224 --> 00:26:35,926
What did he say?
513
00:26:38,268 --> 00:26:41,201
I just said out there
in the car by myself...
514
00:26:45,375 --> 00:26:48,338
...with horrible thoughts
going through my head.
515
00:26:52,212 --> 00:26:56,787
I honestly really almost didn´t
make it through that night.
516
00:26:58,348 --> 00:27:00,250
I think it´s real nice
of everybody, you know,
517
00:27:00,250 --> 00:27:03,724
really helps a lot to know
that everybody´s supporting us.
518
00:27:05,656 --> 00:27:08,959
You know, I guess we don´t
get a chance to say --
519
00:27:08,959 --> 00:27:10,901
appreciate everybody enough,
but, you know,
520
00:27:10,901 --> 00:27:13,263
I want to thank everybody
who is helping.
521
00:27:13,263 --> 00:27:16,066
I´d like to say, Morgan,
you know it´s Father´s Day.
522
00:27:16,066 --> 00:27:18,639
I want to see you
before the day is over.
523
00:27:18,639 --> 00:27:21,742
- You know, we´ve had
lots of leads on John.
524
00:27:21,742 --> 00:27:24,675
"Why isn´t he involved? You
know, he don´t care," this --
525
00:27:24,675 --> 00:27:27,117
You know, the thing with John,
and people got to understand
526
00:27:27,117 --> 00:27:29,119
that we needed the news media.
527
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,182
We needed it to put out
information every day for us.
528
00:27:32,182 --> 00:27:34,855
We were getting
new information every day.
529
00:27:34,855 --> 00:27:38,088
The best way for us to get it
out was by the news media.
530
00:27:38,088 --> 00:27:41,031
It was the fastest.
It was widespread.
531
00:27:41,031 --> 00:27:42,663
And they were willing to do it.
532
00:27:42,663 --> 00:27:45,065
They were willing to help,
but only to a point.
533
00:27:45,065 --> 00:27:48,298
Uh, you know, myself
and, uh, Lieutenant Best
534
00:27:48,298 --> 00:27:50,340
getting up in front
of the camera every day
535
00:27:50,340 --> 00:27:52,142
was not something
the public was going to
536
00:27:52,142 --> 00:27:53,874
want to watch every night.
537
00:27:53,874 --> 00:27:56,106
We needed Colleen involved.
538
00:27:56,106 --> 00:27:58,078
So we convinced
Colleen to be involved,
539
00:27:58,078 --> 00:28:00,781
basically dragging
and kicking and screaming
540
00:28:00,781 --> 00:28:04,354
into the press room to --
"You´ve got to do this."
541
00:28:04,354 --> 00:28:07,357
And so she did, uh, reluctantly,
542
00:28:07,357 --> 00:28:10,060
but, uh, she did well at it.
543
00:28:10,060 --> 00:28:11,762
And she got better at it.
And she learned
544
00:28:11,762 --> 00:28:14,364
that it was a tool,
and she learned how to use it.
545
00:28:14,364 --> 00:28:16,897
My daughter never
ran off. She´s very shy,
546
00:28:16,897 --> 00:28:18,228
and she´s very quiet.
547
00:28:18,228 --> 00:28:20,330
If you think you see something,
548
00:28:20,330 --> 00:28:23,373
it doesn´t matter
even if you´re not sure.
549
00:28:23,373 --> 00:28:25,806
Call the police immediately.
550
00:28:25,806 --> 00:28:27,838
- John had no interest in it.
551
00:28:27,838 --> 00:28:32,012
He did everything
we ever asked him in the case.
552
00:28:32,012 --> 00:28:35,746
One day, I was up there
at the -- the police station.
553
00:28:35,746 --> 00:28:37,417
We were all -- all there
554
00:28:37,417 --> 00:28:42,452
on the steps going up to the --
to the police station there.
555
00:28:42,452 --> 00:28:45,055
And Colleen was, like,
standing up by the door.
556
00:28:45,055 --> 00:28:47,057
And there were
several people there.
557
00:28:47,057 --> 00:28:51,101
There was different
media and police,
558
00:28:51,101 --> 00:28:53,233
and I don´t know
who all was there,
559
00:28:53,233 --> 00:28:55,135
just a bunch of people.
560
00:28:55,135 --> 00:28:57,437
Lady from a local
news channel here,
561
00:28:57,437 --> 00:29:01,411
her and her camera guy pretty
much pushed me out of the way
562
00:29:01,411 --> 00:29:03,373
to get to Colleen.
563
00:29:03,373 --> 00:29:06,416
I turned around, and I said,
you know, "Excuse you.
564
00:29:06,416 --> 00:29:08,949
You need to watch where
you´re -- where you´re walking."
565
00:29:08,949 --> 00:29:11,321
And she said, you know,
"I´m sorry.
566
00:29:11,321 --> 00:29:15,085
It´s just, nobody wants to hear
what the dad has to say.
567
00:29:15,085 --> 00:29:17,858
Everybody wants to hear
what the mom has --
568
00:29:17,858 --> 00:29:19,960
the mother has to say."
569
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,292
And I took it to heart,
and I said, "You know what?
570
00:29:22,292 --> 00:29:24,795
I don´t like talking
to you assholes, either,
571
00:29:24,795 --> 00:29:26,396
and I´m not going to."
572
00:29:26,396 --> 00:29:31,001
And 24 years later, I still
hadn´t spoken to the media.
573
00:29:31,001 --> 00:29:34,905
He never denied us access
to anything or any of that.
574
00:29:34,905 --> 00:29:38,378
He was just basically
as cooperative as Colleen.
575
00:29:38,378 --> 00:29:41,251
He just wasn´t out front with
them. People didn´t see him.
576
00:29:41,251 --> 00:29:44,484
He wasn´t on the news, you know.
So people gathered from that
577
00:29:44,484 --> 00:29:46,386
that the only person
they saw was Colleen,
578
00:29:46,386 --> 00:29:48,789
and that -- that John
didn´t care.
579
00:29:48,789 --> 00:29:50,190
And that just wasn´t true.
580
00:29:50,190 --> 00:29:52,062
- And that was
one of their big things
581
00:29:52,062 --> 00:29:54,424
was, you know,
I had to do something with it
582
00:29:54,424 --> 00:29:57,127
because nobody knows
where I´m at.
583
00:29:57,127 --> 00:29:59,029
Nobody knows me.
584
00:29:59,029 --> 00:30:00,370
Hi, Morgan.
585
00:30:00,370 --> 00:30:04,104
- Wait till I finish
drawing my picture.
586
00:30:04,104 --> 00:30:05,375
- Okay.
587
00:30:05,375 --> 00:30:07,107
You know, and there´s
people, you know,
588
00:30:07,107 --> 00:30:09,840
people pointing their fingers
at me and blaming me.
589
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,543
I´ve went through a lot
of emotions about that stuff.
590
00:30:12,543 --> 00:30:14,545
You know,
I´ve been through them all,
591
00:30:14,545 --> 00:30:17,017
the whole range of emotions,
you know?
592
00:30:17,017 --> 00:30:19,489
At first, it really,
really hurt.
593
00:30:19,489 --> 00:30:21,421
You know, it´s really painful
594
00:30:21,421 --> 00:30:23,524
for somebody to point
their finger and say,
595
00:30:23,524 --> 00:30:25,255
"That´s who hurt
that little girl.
596
00:30:25,255 --> 00:30:27,057
That´s who
took that little girl."
597
00:30:27,057 --> 00:30:30,260
You know, it was real painful.
598
00:30:30,260 --> 00:30:32,002
Come on.
599
00:30:32,002 --> 00:30:35,265
I moved from it being painful
to I laughed about it.
600
00:30:35,265 --> 00:30:37,037
I took it as a joke.
601
00:30:37,037 --> 00:30:39,610
You know, it just shows
these people don´t know me.
602
00:30:39,610 --> 00:30:42,573
I could never hurt a child.
I love children.
603
00:30:42,573 --> 00:30:47,477
I could definitely
never do anything to hurt one.
604
00:30:47,477 --> 00:30:48,919
You know, so I laughed about it.
605
00:30:48,919 --> 00:30:51,051
These people were stupid,
you know?
606
00:30:51,051 --> 00:30:55,355
And I moved on from that,
and I got where it made me mad.
607
00:30:55,355 --> 00:30:57,227
I get mad every time I hear it,
608
00:30:57,227 --> 00:31:00,591
and I, you know,
couple times, you know, I --
609
00:31:03,393 --> 00:31:06,266
You know, I wanted to jump
on people, you know, for it
610
00:31:06,266 --> 00:31:07,938
and shut them up.
611
00:31:07,938 --> 00:31:10,871
But, you know, that´s not
the right way to do stuff,
612
00:31:10,871 --> 00:31:14,344
and I know it,
and so I refrained.
613
00:31:14,344 --> 00:31:16,547
And I moved on from anger to,
614
00:31:16,547 --> 00:31:19,109
you know, just
pretty much accept it.
615
00:31:19,109 --> 00:31:21,612
You know, I don´t care
what they say about me.
616
00:31:21,612 --> 00:31:23,483
As long as they´re
talking about me,
617
00:31:23,483 --> 00:31:26,587
Morgan´s name
is still being out there.
618
00:31:26,587 --> 00:31:28,458
And if they want
to talk shit about me
619
00:31:28,458 --> 00:31:32,392
and point their finger at me,
so be it.
620
00:31:32,392 --> 00:31:35,125
As long as she´s still
being talked about,
621
00:31:35,125 --> 00:31:36,667
I don´t care
what they say about me.
622
00:31:36,667 --> 00:31:39,530
You know, I didn´t do it.
I had nothing to do with it.
623
00:31:39,530 --> 00:31:43,534
I just want to find out
what happened to my kid.
624
00:31:43,534 --> 00:31:46,607
And I don´t care what it takes.
I don´t care.
625
00:31:57,988 --> 00:32:01,251
- A question. Can a piece
of home videotape
626
00:32:01,251 --> 00:32:03,694
help police find Morgan Nick?
627
00:32:03,694 --> 00:32:05,255
Well, a viewer may have caught
628
00:32:05,255 --> 00:32:07,197
the alleged kidnapper´s
truck on tape,
629
00:32:07,197 --> 00:32:09,399
but, uh, will this help
the investigation?
630
00:32:09,399 --> 00:32:11,331
Beth Derayma sat down
with police today
631
00:32:11,331 --> 00:32:13,133
as they watched the tape
632
00:32:13,133 --> 00:32:16,537
to see if the truck
is the one they´re looking for.
633
00:32:16,537 --> 00:32:18,539
- The pickup truck that we --
- Lieutenant Dale Best
634
00:32:18,539 --> 00:32:20,971
watched this tape
that a viewer gave us.
635
00:32:20,971 --> 00:32:22,543
It was shot
at the Alma ball field
636
00:32:22,543 --> 00:32:25,015
the day Morgan Nick
disappeared.
637
00:32:25,015 --> 00:32:27,077
It appears to be the red truck
with white camper
638
00:32:27,077 --> 00:32:28,649
that police are looking for.
639
00:32:28,649 --> 00:32:31,321
But Best isn´t so sure.
640
00:32:31,321 --> 00:32:34,555
- Uh, it doesn´t really look
like a Ford pickup truck.
641
00:32:34,555 --> 00:32:37,027
And we´re not real sure
about this camper shell.
642
00:32:37,027 --> 00:32:40,030
Best says what looks to be
a camper shell in the video
643
00:32:40,030 --> 00:32:43,193
might actually be a storm door
in the bed of the truck.
644
00:32:43,193 --> 00:32:45,135
However, investigators
are being called in
645
00:32:45,135 --> 00:32:48,539
to study the video to see
if they can pull out any clues.
646
00:32:48,539 --> 00:32:50,340
In the meantime,
the search for Morgan Nick
647
00:32:50,340 --> 00:32:52,002
is now in its fifth day.
648
00:32:52,002 --> 00:32:53,504
But still no sign
of the 6-year-old girl
649
00:32:53,504 --> 00:32:55,345
or the man
who may have taken her.
650
00:32:55,345 --> 00:32:58,448
- We started collecting video
of, uh, parents,
651
00:32:58,448 --> 00:33:01,181
grandparents that were
videoing their kids
652
00:33:01,181 --> 00:33:03,483
at not only that ball game,
653
00:33:03,483 --> 00:33:07,287
but also the high school
ball field and even the complex.
654
00:33:07,287 --> 00:33:11,992
Just in case we caught somebody,
you know, that looked suspicious
655
00:33:11,992 --> 00:33:15,095
or try to identify
a vehicle or a person.
656
00:33:15,095 --> 00:33:17,067
- If you´re asking me
if we got videos of red trucks,
657
00:33:17,067 --> 00:33:20,070
Absolutely. We got video
of red truck with camper shell,
658
00:33:20,070 --> 00:33:22,703
Yes, we do. Could it be
the one that took Morgan?
659
00:33:22,703 --> 00:33:25,235
Yes. Is it?
I don´t know at this point.
660
00:33:25,235 --> 00:33:27,377
- It´s the same pickup truck
that we have pictures of.
661
00:33:27,377 --> 00:33:29,479
We already have this tape.
662
00:33:29,479 --> 00:33:33,584
And we have tried to examine,
uh, this pickup truck closely.
663
00:33:33,584 --> 00:33:35,485
In fact, we´ve had
some enlargements made.
664
00:33:35,485 --> 00:33:37,588
In fact, we´ve gone
to 400 times.
665
00:33:37,588 --> 00:33:40,390
So we´ve got a red truck
with a white camper shell
666
00:33:40,390 --> 00:33:43,153
at the same ball field,
not that night
667
00:33:43,153 --> 00:33:46,456
but at a different time frame,
but we don´t know whose it is.
668
00:33:46,456 --> 00:33:49,229
If we can find that truck
and identify it,
669
00:33:49,229 --> 00:33:51,261
it may be our suspect.
It may not be.
670
00:33:51,261 --> 00:33:52,703
If it´s a guy that
lives down the street,
671
00:33:52,703 --> 00:33:55,065
and he comes to a ball game
every week,
672
00:33:55,065 --> 00:33:56,737
and, you know, we can clear him,
673
00:33:56,737 --> 00:33:58,468
then we know
that´s not our truck.
674
00:33:58,468 --> 00:34:02,072
So it wasn´t that
we were believing for sure
675
00:34:02,072 --> 00:34:03,443
that this is this truck,
676
00:34:03,443 --> 00:34:06,116
but we want to determine
whether it is or not.
677
00:34:06,116 --> 00:34:08,779
So we need to identify it
and whose it is
678
00:34:08,779 --> 00:34:12,122
to be able to figure out
if this is the red truck
679
00:34:12,122 --> 00:34:13,624
we´re looking for
or not the red truck.
680
00:34:15,085 --> 00:34:17,427
Not that I´m aware of.
681
00:34:17,427 --> 00:34:19,259
- Oh, I know
that we were just inundated
682
00:34:19,259 --> 00:34:21,131
with sightings of the truck.
683
00:34:21,131 --> 00:34:23,063
One of the leads
police are working on
684
00:34:23,063 --> 00:34:25,065
happened in Colleyville, Texas.
685
00:34:25,065 --> 00:34:28,739
A teacher was almost abducted
by a man in a red pickup truck.
686
00:34:28,739 --> 00:34:30,641
She got away but was run over.
687
00:34:30,641 --> 00:34:33,243
There was actually a local guy
688
00:34:33,243 --> 00:34:37,748
that lived in the county that
drove a ´60s model Ford pickup
689
00:34:37,748 --> 00:34:40,210
or early ´70s model Ford pickup
690
00:34:40,210 --> 00:34:42,753
that was red in color
with a white camper shell
691
00:34:42,753 --> 00:34:46,817
that was about a foot too long
for the -- for it.
692
00:34:46,817 --> 00:34:50,791
And I do know that he had been
stopped so many times
693
00:34:50,791 --> 00:34:53,824
by law enforcement
that he took shoe polish
694
00:34:53,824 --> 00:34:55,796
and wrote on the back,
"I´m not the abductor"
695
00:34:55,796 --> 00:34:58,468
or "I didn´t take her,"
or something like that.
696
00:34:58,468 --> 00:35:00,571
Since Morgan´s
kidnapping on June 9th,
697
00:35:00,571 --> 00:35:02,432
police have received
hundreds of calls
698
00:35:02,432 --> 00:35:04,705
from people
who have spotted the truck.
699
00:35:04,705 --> 00:35:07,708
Tim Reed of Alma was pulled
over twice in his pickup,
700
00:35:07,708 --> 00:35:09,209
but he doesn´t seem to mind.
701
00:35:09,209 --> 00:35:10,711
- You know, it was
a little hassle,
702
00:35:10,711 --> 00:35:12,513
but it´s good to know
that they´re out --
703
00:35:12,513 --> 00:35:14,214
out to capture him.
704
00:35:14,214 --> 00:35:15,746
However, there are some people
705
00:35:15,746 --> 00:35:17,818
who say they´re being hassled
by the public
706
00:35:17,818 --> 00:35:19,590
just because they drive a truck
707
00:35:19,590 --> 00:35:22,322
that looks like the one
police are trying to find.
708
00:35:22,322 --> 00:35:25,756
- Their vehicle
has been tailgated,
709
00:35:25,756 --> 00:35:28,559
pinned in parking lots,
and in fact, one person got out
710
00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:30,300
and tried to search the truck.
711
00:35:30,300 --> 00:35:31,802
We´d like to caution
the general public
712
00:35:31,802 --> 00:35:34,204
from taking any type
of enforcement action.
713
00:35:34,204 --> 00:35:36,667
If you think you see the
truck police are looking for,
714
00:35:36,667 --> 00:35:39,710
jot down the license plate
number and call them.
715
00:35:39,710 --> 00:35:42,142
And if you drive a red
Ford pickup truck,
716
00:35:42,142 --> 00:35:43,744
police say be patient.
717
00:35:43,744 --> 00:35:45,145
But I remember, you know,
718
00:35:45,145 --> 00:35:47,548
as several of us
were viewing those,
719
00:35:47,548 --> 00:35:50,480
"Oh, if they´d just panned
just a little bit more,
720
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,882
we might have saw something."
721
00:35:51,882 --> 00:35:55,155
I remember us cheering,
going, "Go, go, go, go!"
722
00:35:55,155 --> 00:35:57,828
Because where this truck was,
723
00:35:57,828 --> 00:36:02,292
it was almost directly
behind home plate.
724
00:36:02,292 --> 00:36:05,295
If they´d just panned
a little bit more to the left,
725
00:36:05,295 --> 00:36:07,167
they could have got that area.
726
00:36:07,167 --> 00:36:08,669
- So, the truck´s still
a viable lead,
727
00:36:08,669 --> 00:36:12,472
but it´s only viable for
the time frame that it was in.
728
00:36:12,472 --> 00:36:15,546
The truck may still exist, and
we would still like to find it.
729
00:36:15,546 --> 00:36:18,378
There may be evidence
in that truck, uh,
730
00:36:18,378 --> 00:36:21,882
or just knowing -- tracking
the ownership of that truck.
731
00:36:21,882 --> 00:36:23,884
So, absolutely,
the truck´s a great lead.
732
00:36:23,884 --> 00:36:28,318
But, you know, it needs to be
relevant to the time.
733
00:36:35,926 --> 00:36:37,367
The Alma police department
734
00:36:37,367 --> 00:36:39,229
making a huge
announcement today.
735
00:36:39,229 --> 00:36:42,272
The city council and mayor have
appointed chief Jeff Pointer
736
00:36:42,272 --> 00:36:44,274
as the permanent
police chief there.
737
00:36:44,274 --> 00:36:46,537
Took over the chief position
after Russell White
738
00:36:46,537 --> 00:36:50,210
retired from the position
after 25 years.
739
00:36:53,714 --> 00:36:57,688
In 1998, uh, Russell
hired me as a dispatcher.
740
00:36:57,688 --> 00:37:00,290
Not long after that,
I was hired as a patrolman.
741
00:37:00,290 --> 00:37:03,554
You know, during that time,
Russell and I become friends.
742
00:37:03,554 --> 00:37:06,827
You know, he told me he could
see me being his replacement.
743
00:37:06,827 --> 00:37:09,700
And, of course, that´s 20 years,
you know --
744
00:37:09,700 --> 00:37:12,703
The case was, at that time,
24 years old.
745
00:37:12,703 --> 00:37:15,966
And -- And what had been
happening in the case
746
00:37:15,966 --> 00:37:18,669
was not working.
So, uh, I-I just came in
747
00:37:18,669 --> 00:37:20,771
with -- with open eyes
and open ears
748
00:37:20,771 --> 00:37:25,546
and, uh, took suggestions from,
um -- from other investigators.
749
00:37:25,546 --> 00:37:27,578
Captain Hartley approached me
750
00:37:27,578 --> 00:37:30,781
about going back
to -- to June the 9th, 1995,
751
00:37:30,781 --> 00:37:33,453
and not starting over
in the -- in the investigation,
752
00:37:33,453 --> 00:37:35,626
but looking back at some things
753
00:37:35,626 --> 00:37:37,287
that was done early
and, you know,
754
00:37:37,287 --> 00:37:41,532
and just reviewing
what happened on June the 9th.
755
00:37:41,532 --> 00:37:43,433
What if someone
did miss something?
756
00:37:43,433 --> 00:37:45,766
And by us going back
and reviewing
757
00:37:45,766 --> 00:37:47,868
some of those first things
the first few days
758
00:37:47,868 --> 00:37:51,301
and, I mean, it could
make a difference.
759
00:38:00,551 --> 00:38:02,282
Truly, I think the easiest way
760
00:38:02,282 --> 00:38:03,884
to probably describe it
for anybody who --
761
00:38:03,884 --> 00:38:05,756
that was there that night,
even in law enforcement,
762
00:38:05,756 --> 00:38:07,518
it´s a helpless feeling.
763
00:38:13,023 --> 00:38:15,626
And the longer time went on,
764
00:38:15,626 --> 00:38:18,028
the more helpless that you felt.
765
00:38:21,572 --> 00:38:22,933
It´s our duty to protect.
766
00:38:22,933 --> 00:38:26,336
And you´ve got
a 6-year-old baby out there
767
00:38:26,336 --> 00:38:28,579
that somebody abducted,
768
00:38:28,579 --> 00:38:31,041
and we have not found her, and
we have not brought her home.
769
00:38:35,516 --> 00:38:37,788
You know, anytime you´ve got
a-a missing child,
770
00:38:37,788 --> 00:38:39,790
I think, in law enforcement,
771
00:38:39,790 --> 00:38:43,423
uh, it creates a little bit
of apprehension in you.
772
00:38:48,599 --> 00:38:51,461
In 25 years
of law enforcement here,
773
00:38:51,461 --> 00:38:55,005
Morgan is the only one
we haven´t found.
774
00:38:55,005 --> 00:38:58,909
Appreciate the -- the time
to come in and talk to y´all
775
00:38:58,909 --> 00:39:01,512
and bring you up to speed
a little bit on this.
776
00:39:01,512 --> 00:39:03,073
We want you to have
the information,
777
00:39:03,073 --> 00:39:04,875
because you will see it.
778
00:39:04,875 --> 00:39:08,819
Um, you´re going to see it
in a couple of different ways.
779
00:39:08,819 --> 00:39:11,882
And so this is very simply
to give you a heads-up
780
00:39:11,882 --> 00:39:13,984
so you´re not blindsided
when you see that.
781
00:39:13,984 --> 00:39:17,528
Emotionally, there´s probably
gon´ be some emotion
782
00:39:17,528 --> 00:39:19,359
in this tonight,
783
00:39:19,359 --> 00:39:21,091
and it´s understandable,
784
00:39:21,091 --> 00:39:23,864
and it´s all good, okay?
785
00:39:23,864 --> 00:39:26,797
If you get mad, you get mad.
If you cry, you cry.
786
00:39:26,797 --> 00:39:29,970
Uh, I´ve had all those emotions,
787
00:39:29,970 --> 00:39:33,874
and I´m not in your family.
788
00:39:38,909 --> 00:39:42,613
So, kind of going back and
painting a picture of her case,
789
00:39:42,613 --> 00:39:44,384
what happened
on the law enforcement side
790
00:39:44,384 --> 00:39:46,857
after she was abducted
791
00:39:46,857 --> 00:39:49,960
is leads came in by the droves.
792
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:55,165
Suspect composites have been
a lot, uh, of those leads,
793
00:39:55,165 --> 00:39:58,799
and known offenders
have been a lot of those leads.
794
00:39:58,799 --> 00:40:01,932
Anytime anybody commits a crime
in the United States
795
00:40:01,932 --> 00:40:04,174
that comes close to this,
they call it in
796
00:40:04,174 --> 00:40:05,936
whether or not
there´s any connection.
797
00:40:05,936 --> 00:40:08,809
We have over 8,300 leads
in her case.
798
00:40:08,809 --> 00:40:10,611
So, let´s talk about composites,
799
00:40:10,611 --> 00:40:13,644
because there´s been a lot out
over the years,
800
00:40:13,644 --> 00:40:15,415
and there´s been a lot
of questions over the years
801
00:40:15,415 --> 00:40:16,817
about composites.
802
00:40:16,817 --> 00:40:18,849
There were two children
playing with Morgan
803
00:40:18,849 --> 00:40:20,521
the night of the abduction.
804
00:40:20,521 --> 00:40:22,993
So, these are the original
two Identi-Kits
805
00:40:22,993 --> 00:40:25,826
that came out in the case
from those two witnesses.
806
00:40:25,826 --> 00:40:30,130
Four days after the abduction,
they have gotten information
807
00:40:30,130 --> 00:40:32,863
that there was a lead
coming out of a laundromat,
808
00:40:32,863 --> 00:40:35,205
an attempted abduction
at a laundromat.
809
00:40:35,205 --> 00:40:37,808
So then they turn around
and release this composite.
810
00:40:37,808 --> 00:40:43,073
On, uh, August 13th of ´97,
they had this drawn.
811
00:40:43,073 --> 00:40:45,716
And what this is
is what´s out today.
812
00:40:45,716 --> 00:40:49,980
And essentially,
this is a hybrid of these two.
813
00:40:49,980 --> 00:40:52,152
Where we are today with the case
814
00:40:52,152 --> 00:40:57,087
is I´m not focused
on composites.
815
00:40:57,087 --> 00:40:59,860
The direction
that this case has always went
816
00:40:59,860 --> 00:41:03,634
has been running leads
based off a composite.
817
00:41:03,634 --> 00:41:07,738
I mean, truthfully, that was
the last 24 years of this case.
818
00:41:07,738 --> 00:41:10,100
I´m looking
for something different.
819
00:41:10,100 --> 00:41:13,504
And you may say,
"Well, this has been the last
820
00:41:13,504 --> 00:41:15,806
20, 24 years of her case."
821
00:41:15,806 --> 00:41:18,749
And I would say yes,
absolutely, you´re right.
822
00:41:18,749 --> 00:41:22,252
Uh, as far as the hybrid
and what´s out today,
823
00:41:22,252 --> 00:41:24,154
we´re talking
25 years into a case.
824
00:41:24,154 --> 00:41:26,587
We´re not going to do
an age progression on this.
825
00:41:26,587 --> 00:41:28,258
This is going to
the background for us.
826
00:41:28,258 --> 00:41:30,921
I´m looking for facts.
I´m looking for details.
827
00:41:30,921 --> 00:41:32,893
I´m looking for specifics
828
00:41:32,893 --> 00:41:35,866
that I can focus on
aside from composites.
829
00:41:35,866 --> 00:41:40,901
The vehicle of interest and
the person of interest in this,
830
00:41:40,901 --> 00:41:45,105
uh, or actually the vehicles
parked next to Colleen´s car
831
00:41:45,105 --> 00:41:47,608
up at the top of the hill.
What is in the reports
832
00:41:47,608 --> 00:41:49,780
is when they first
pull into the lot,
833
00:41:49,780 --> 00:41:54,084
that they pass three,
four vehicles.
834
00:41:54,084 --> 00:41:57,588
And then the gentleman
that Colleen was following there
835
00:41:57,588 --> 00:41:59,790
parks his vehicle
on the far side,
836
00:41:59,790 --> 00:42:01,952
which would be deepest end
of the lot,
837
00:42:01,952 --> 00:42:04,054
uh, is where Colleen had parked.
838
00:42:04,054 --> 00:42:07,257
The reports and everything
that I´m able to look at
839
00:42:07,257 --> 00:42:09,630
indicates that this red truck
840
00:42:09,630 --> 00:42:12,132
ended up being parked
on the other side of Colleen.
841
00:42:12,132 --> 00:42:13,704
To this day,
Colleen will tell you
842
00:42:13,704 --> 00:42:15,606
that she does not remember
843
00:42:15,606 --> 00:42:17,838
that -- that truck
being on that hill.
844
00:42:17,838 --> 00:42:19,640
I think here´s
the easiest thing.
845
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,873
Um, if you went to your
local store today,
846
00:42:22,873 --> 00:42:24,615
and you got out of your car,
and you went inside,
847
00:42:24,615 --> 00:42:26,847
and you got back in your car,
and you left,
848
00:42:26,847 --> 00:42:28,719
can you tell me
what color the vehicles were
849
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,251
and what the vehicles were that
were sitting around your vehicle
850
00:42:31,251 --> 00:42:34,154
or the one, uh, you know,
that passed you
851
00:42:34,154 --> 00:42:35,786
as you were getting ready
to go through a crosswalk?
852
00:42:35,786 --> 00:42:37,227
The answer to that is no.
853
00:42:37,227 --> 00:42:39,890
And so it is not
an uncommon thing.
854
00:42:39,890 --> 00:42:42,232
Uh, I think that´s something
that really bothers her,
855
00:42:42,232 --> 00:42:44,094
but that is not
an uncommon thing
856
00:42:44,094 --> 00:42:48,999
for somebody to not recognize,
uh, and be able to place that.
857
00:42:48,999 --> 00:42:51,001
You know, I think part
of the public perception
858
00:42:51,001 --> 00:42:53,173
is that, you know,
859
00:42:53,173 --> 00:42:55,806
she says, "Well, Morgan´s
with me the whole time,"
860
00:42:55,806 --> 00:42:57,177
but she´s probably out
running around
861
00:42:57,177 --> 00:42:58,779
with the other kids
that were out playing.
862
00:42:58,779 --> 00:43:01,882
She´s not.
She´s -- She´s with her mom
863
00:43:01,882 --> 00:43:03,854
until right up toward
the end of the game.
864
00:43:03,854 --> 00:43:06,256
And then there are
other children playing.
865
00:43:06,256 --> 00:43:08,258
I mean, we´ve got
that documented in reports.
866
00:43:08,258 --> 00:43:09,820
We have those kids identified.
867
00:43:09,820 --> 00:43:12,723
There was another
parent actually
868
00:43:12,723 --> 00:43:13,794
that was in
an apartment building
869
00:43:13,794 --> 00:43:15,295
right there where that lot was
870
00:43:15,295 --> 00:43:17,267
that was coming out
and checking on her children.
871
00:43:17,267 --> 00:43:21,001
So, a lot of people
at the ball field.
872
00:43:21,001 --> 00:43:25,275
I mean, it is not like anything
to where she sent her child off
873
00:43:25,275 --> 00:43:28,879
to where her child cannot be
seen or anything else like that.
874
00:43:28,879 --> 00:43:31,612
You´ve got to consider,
you know,
875
00:43:31,612 --> 00:43:34,985
the innocence in 1995
in the city of Alma.
876
00:43:34,985 --> 00:43:36,887
It was shattered with Morgan,
877
00:43:36,887 --> 00:43:38,288
because you didn´t
think anything
878
00:43:38,288 --> 00:43:40,220
about allowing your child
to go play like that.
879
00:43:40,220 --> 00:43:42,623
The person stayed up there
and watched the ball game.
880
00:43:42,623 --> 00:43:45,756
We know that,
from witness statements,
881
00:43:45,756 --> 00:43:47,828
there were periods of time
when this person got out
882
00:43:47,828 --> 00:43:51,131
and leaned
on the hood of the truck.
883
00:43:51,131 --> 00:43:55,906
And we know of, outside
of Tye, Jessica, and Morgan,
884
00:43:55,906 --> 00:43:58,268
of no other contact
or connection
885
00:43:58,268 --> 00:44:01,642
between this individual
and any of the other kids
886
00:44:01,642 --> 00:44:03,714
or anybody else up on the hill.
887
00:44:03,714 --> 00:44:06,677
I´m interested in the truck.
I´m interested in finding out,
888
00:44:06,677 --> 00:44:09,179
making this solid
to me personally,
889
00:44:09,179 --> 00:44:11,181
looking at this
and saying, "Okay,
890
00:44:11,181 --> 00:44:12,983
what -- what do we have here?"
891
00:44:12,983 --> 00:44:17,928
And I came up with a list of
20 people from June the 9th
892
00:44:17,928 --> 00:44:21,031
that provided information
on a red truck.
893
00:44:21,031 --> 00:44:22,733
Three of the primary people
and witnesses
894
00:44:22,733 --> 00:44:27,037
that were talked to, uh,
were actually given hypnosis,
895
00:44:27,037 --> 00:44:29,770
and they provided some vehicle
license information.
896
00:44:29,770 --> 00:44:31,171
They did their due diligence
897
00:44:31,171 --> 00:44:33,874
when they received
this information
898
00:44:33,874 --> 00:44:36,306
in August of ´95,
899
00:44:36,306 --> 00:44:38,278
and they ran those tags.
900
00:44:38,278 --> 00:44:41,051
And I start looking,
and I realize
901
00:44:41,051 --> 00:44:43,383
that in this one
particular state,
902
00:44:43,383 --> 00:44:48,058
every one of these tags
have returned no record.
903
00:44:48,058 --> 00:44:51,161
So I run, 24 years later,
an NCIC offline search
904
00:44:51,161 --> 00:44:53,223
on these tags,
and I get some hits.
905
00:44:53,223 --> 00:44:55,025
So we´re looking
at two different avenues.
906
00:44:55,025 --> 00:44:58,168
We´re looking at this truck.
We´re looking at these tags.
907
00:44:58,168 --> 00:45:01,401
And as I continue to work
on the sheet with these trucks,
908
00:45:01,401 --> 00:45:04,775
I get to right
in the 20th person.
909
00:45:04,775 --> 00:45:07,077
I start digging through files,
looking for more witnesses,
910
00:45:07,077 --> 00:45:09,409
more things,
and I come across a photograph.
911
00:45:09,409 --> 00:45:11,111
I pull the photograph out,
912
00:45:11,111 --> 00:45:15,986
and I´m looking at a red truck
with a white camper.
913
00:45:15,986 --> 00:45:19,820
And having the 20 people´s
statements fresh in my mind
914
00:45:19,820 --> 00:45:21,391
when I look at this truck,
I think,
915
00:45:21,391 --> 00:45:24,024
"Oh, my God.
I´m looking at the truck."
916
00:45:26,226 --> 00:45:28,859
It doesn´t quite fit.
Is there something there
917
00:45:28,859 --> 00:45:30,731
that, other than being red,
918
00:45:30,731 --> 00:45:32,032
there something there
that really makes you think
919
00:45:32,032 --> 00:45:33,864
that this could be
the truck or --
920
00:45:33,864 --> 00:45:36,436
- It doesn´t really look like
a Ford pickup truck
921
00:45:36,436 --> 00:45:38,809
and we´re not real sure
about this camper shell.
922
00:45:38,809 --> 00:45:40,511
But, yes,
923
00:45:40,511 --> 00:45:42,472
we have this film,
and we have looked at that,
924
00:45:42,472 --> 00:45:46,446
and we continue to examine it,
and we´re utilizing it
925
00:45:46,446 --> 00:45:48,378
in our investigation
at this time.
926
00:45:48,378 --> 00:45:50,150
The image
that they pull from the video,
927
00:45:50,150 --> 00:45:53,223
I believe they had it, um,
928
00:45:53,223 --> 00:45:56,256
with -- roughly
within a week of the abduction
929
00:45:56,256 --> 00:45:58,458
they had that. I´m wanting
to say they actually had that
930
00:45:58,458 --> 00:46:02,032
close to the 13th,
14th, somewhere in there.
931
00:46:02,032 --> 00:46:04,064
The suspect who took
Morgan Nick is believed
932
00:46:04,064 --> 00:46:06,867
to be driving
an older model red Ford pickup
933
00:46:06,867 --> 00:46:08,539
with a white camper shell.
934
00:46:08,539 --> 00:46:11,101
A parent at the ball field
where Morgan was last seen
935
00:46:11,101 --> 00:46:13,443
caught this red truck
on home video.
936
00:46:13,443 --> 00:46:15,245
But after further
investigation,
937
00:46:15,245 --> 00:46:17,477
police say
this truck is a Mazda
938
00:46:17,477 --> 00:46:19,950
and it´s owned by a parent
who was at the ball field
939
00:46:19,950 --> 00:46:21,381
where Morgan disappeared.
940
00:46:21,381 --> 00:46:23,213
- They are saying that,
that it has been cleared.
941
00:46:23,213 --> 00:46:25,956
It doesn´t name any agency
in particular
942
00:46:25,956 --> 00:46:28,158
that supposedly cleared that.
943
00:46:28,158 --> 00:46:30,320
What I can tell you is,
944
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,523
based on the facts
of what I find and what I read,
945
00:46:32,523 --> 00:46:35,225
I have not found
a single document at this point
946
00:46:35,225 --> 00:46:37,427
that tells me
that truck´s cleared,
947
00:46:37,427 --> 00:46:39,500
that an owner of that truck
has been identified.
948
00:46:39,500 --> 00:46:42,032
As a matter of fact,
I have documents --
949
00:46:42,032 --> 00:46:43,433
One of the things that they did,
950
00:46:43,433 --> 00:46:46,276
uh, they -- they
obtained information
951
00:46:46,276 --> 00:46:48,909
from everybody
that attended the ball field.
952
00:46:48,909 --> 00:46:51,081
Uh, part of that information
is what vehicles they drove
953
00:46:51,081 --> 00:46:53,483
to the ball field, and who came?
954
00:46:53,483 --> 00:46:55,816
Did you have a guest,
and what did they drive?
955
00:46:55,816 --> 00:46:59,219
That truck doesn´t exist
in those records.
956
00:46:59,219 --> 00:47:02,122
I spoke with Chief White.
I showed him the picture,
957
00:47:02,122 --> 00:47:04,595
asked him about it,
and he said yes.
958
00:47:04,595 --> 00:47:07,898
That truck, uh, was known
to be at the ball field
959
00:47:07,898 --> 00:47:09,359
June the 9th of ´95.
960
00:47:09,359 --> 00:47:11,932
And there is a potential
961
00:47:11,932 --> 00:47:14,364
that that could be the person
we´re looking for in this case.
962
00:47:14,364 --> 00:47:16,907
A parent at the ball field
where Morgan was last seen
963
00:47:16,907 --> 00:47:19,209
caught this red truck
on home video.
964
00:47:19,209 --> 00:47:21,011
But after further
investigation,
965
00:47:21,011 --> 00:47:23,243
police say
this truck is a Mazda
966
00:47:23,243 --> 00:47:25,546
and it´s owned by a parent
who was at the ball field
967
00:47:25,546 --> 00:47:28,278
where Morgan disappeared.
968
00:47:28,278 --> 00:47:29,950
Had you ever heard that?
969
00:47:29,950 --> 00:47:33,053
- I´m -- I mean, I don´t --
I don´t remember it, no.
970
00:47:33,053 --> 00:47:34,555
And I´m sure a policeman
told them that.
971
00:47:34,555 --> 00:47:37,087
And it may have been somebody
from a different agency.
972
00:47:37,087 --> 00:47:38,559
I may have knew about it,
973
00:47:38,559 --> 00:47:42,092
but I don´t remember
ever hearing that to be a Mazda,
974
00:47:42,092 --> 00:47:44,394
and I haven´t ever read a report
975
00:47:44,394 --> 00:47:46,937
that tells me
who owned that truck.
976
00:47:46,937 --> 00:47:50,641
Uh, so I would think
that if we knew it was a parent
977
00:47:50,641 --> 00:47:53,504
at the ball field,
we´d know what parent it was.
978
00:47:53,504 --> 00:47:56,607
But I´ve never seen
that information, so...
979
00:48:04,915 --> 00:48:09,389
I started mapping
some different circumstances
980
00:48:09,389 --> 00:48:11,291
that happened within the city
981
00:48:11,291 --> 00:48:13,924
on June the 9th
relating to this truck.
982
00:48:13,924 --> 00:48:17,467
You know, we had knowledge of
different pieces of this before.
983
00:48:17,467 --> 00:48:19,399
When you sit down, and you put
that puzzle together,
984
00:48:19,399 --> 00:48:21,131
it´s like a jigsaw puzzle.
985
00:48:21,131 --> 00:48:22,933
And when you start
putting those pieces together,
986
00:48:22,933 --> 00:48:24,174
you get a very clear picture.
987
00:48:24,174 --> 00:48:26,406
And I have a very
clear picture today.
988
00:48:28,238 --> 00:48:32,382
Started pulling everything
from June the 9th of ´95.
989
00:48:32,382 --> 00:48:36,186
I don´t believe that Morgan
was the only circumstance
990
00:48:36,186 --> 00:48:39,189
that occurred with this person
in Alma on June the 9th.
991
00:48:39,189 --> 00:48:42,022
I found statements
that I had seen before
992
00:48:42,022 --> 00:48:43,453
at different times
over the years
993
00:48:43,453 --> 00:48:46,056
and started pulling
information from them
994
00:48:46,056 --> 00:48:48,258
and then actually
started mapping
995
00:48:48,258 --> 00:48:50,631
and putting that
information together.
996
00:48:50,631 --> 00:48:54,104
And it painted
a very interesting picture
997
00:48:54,104 --> 00:48:55,435
of June the 9th of ´95.
998
00:48:55,435 --> 00:48:58,569
And according to witness
statements,
999
00:48:58,569 --> 00:49:00,671
Morgan Nick
and the kids with her
1000
00:49:00,671 --> 00:49:03,944
were not the only contact
with this individual that night.
1001
00:49:03,944 --> 00:49:07,618
The first location
is a teenage white female.
1002
00:49:07,618 --> 00:49:12,122
She has a truck drive past her,
pull over in front of her,
1003
00:49:12,122 --> 00:49:14,224
and back up to her.
1004
00:49:14,224 --> 00:49:17,387
And the passenger window´s
partially down.
1005
00:49:17,387 --> 00:49:22,092
And the first thing that
this individual says to her is,
1006
00:49:22,092 --> 00:49:24,034
"Would you like a ride
to downtown Alma?"
1007
00:49:24,034 --> 00:49:25,736
So, obviously, downtown Alma
1008
00:49:25,736 --> 00:49:28,238
is was where Morgan
was abducted from.
1009
00:49:28,238 --> 00:49:32,102
So this female tells him
that she doesn´t want to ride.
1010
00:49:32,102 --> 00:49:36,146
The subject doesn´t leave,
and she is forced --
1011
00:49:36,146 --> 00:49:37,648
Uh, she´s scared at this point,
1012
00:49:37,648 --> 00:49:40,250
and she is forced
to walk off from him.
1013
00:49:40,250 --> 00:49:44,254
And so she has to walk off,
and he continues to sit there
1014
00:49:44,254 --> 00:49:46,286
and then finally drives off.
1015
00:49:46,286 --> 00:49:49,019
The strongest witness.
Hands down, no questions asked,
1016
00:49:49,019 --> 00:49:52,392
that´s probably the strongest
witness in our case.
1017
00:49:52,392 --> 00:49:53,724
She provided
a lot of information,
1018
00:49:53,724 --> 00:49:55,666
filled in a lot of blanks.
1019
00:49:55,666 --> 00:49:57,598
Location number two,
1020
00:49:57,598 --> 00:50:00,470
the information on it is from a
call-in, and it´s kind of vague
1021
00:50:00,470 --> 00:50:02,332
because I haven´t found
a follow-up on it.
1022
00:50:02,332 --> 00:50:05,506
Two girls, 5 and 6 years old,
on the north end of our city,
1023
00:50:05,506 --> 00:50:07,377
they come running
from the front yard
1024
00:50:07,377 --> 00:50:09,680
out next to the street,
screaming and crying.
1025
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,182
Mom looks out,
and Mom sees a red truck
1026
00:50:12,182 --> 00:50:14,214
with a white camper shell
drive off.
1027
00:50:18,018 --> 00:50:23,423
Location number three is going
to be in downtown Alma,
1028
00:50:23,423 --> 00:50:25,225
and it´s a couple
of teenage boys.
1029
00:50:25,225 --> 00:50:29,399
They´re walking from
the older baseball field
1030
00:50:29,399 --> 00:50:31,502
on the south side
of West Main Street.
1031
00:50:31,502 --> 00:50:35,265
And a red pickup truck
with a white camper shell,
1032
00:50:35,265 --> 00:50:37,608
uh, a male subject in it, stops
1033
00:50:37,608 --> 00:50:41,712
and gets onto them
for being in the road.
1034
00:50:41,712 --> 00:50:43,574
One of those witnesses
1035
00:50:43,574 --> 00:50:47,047
watches the truck
turn onto Walnut Street.
1036
00:50:47,047 --> 00:50:50,480
And, so, Walnut runs down
the side of the ballpark,
1037
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:51,752
and it actually is the street
1038
00:50:51,752 --> 00:50:53,353
that goes into
the upper parking lot
1039
00:50:53,353 --> 00:50:57,127
where Morgan was abducted from.
1040
00:50:57,127 --> 00:50:59,429
This is number four.
So right there,
1041
00:50:59,429 --> 00:51:02,192
I have a couple
of 10-year-old boys
1042
00:51:02,192 --> 00:51:04,635
that were playing
and riding bikes,
1043
00:51:04,635 --> 00:51:07,467
and they´re in the street.
And I have a subject
1044
00:51:07,467 --> 00:51:09,339
in a red truck
with a white camper
1045
00:51:09,339 --> 00:51:12,472
that stops and yells at them
to get out of the road, as well.
1046
00:51:12,472 --> 00:51:15,405
Number five, I would call
definitely the parking lot
1047
00:51:15,405 --> 00:51:16,747
where the abduction occurred.
1048
00:51:16,747 --> 00:51:19,109
Location number six,
with the same thing,
1049
00:51:19,109 --> 00:51:20,651
we´re looking at a timeline.
1050
00:51:20,651 --> 00:51:23,554
There is, uh,
the red truck in question
1051
00:51:23,554 --> 00:51:25,115
with the white camper shell
1052
00:51:25,115 --> 00:51:27,558
that is photographed
sitting on the street.
1053
00:51:27,558 --> 00:51:30,721
And we know the time of that
ballgame, 5:30 to 7:00 p.m.
1054
00:51:30,721 --> 00:51:33,493
that night, is when
this truck was photographed.
1055
00:51:33,493 --> 00:51:35,365
Every thing
within that timeframe
1056
00:51:35,365 --> 00:51:38,198
is a very short period of time,
and it all comes into play.
1057
00:51:38,198 --> 00:51:41,632
So basically what it did for me
on that day is it led a track
1058
00:51:41,632 --> 00:51:44,474
right to downtown,
right to the abduction.
1059
00:51:48,639 --> 00:51:53,584
So location number seven
is actually, um --
1060
00:51:53,584 --> 00:51:55,546
We´re not going to divulge
that location at the time,
1061
00:51:55,546 --> 00:51:57,487
because we´re doing
some work there.
1062
00:51:57,487 --> 00:52:00,851
But within a 10-minute
period of her abduction,
1063
00:52:00,851 --> 00:52:05,896
we have other witnesses
that were teenagers.
1064
00:52:05,896 --> 00:52:08,799
At this specific location,
it was close to the river.
1065
00:52:08,799 --> 00:52:11,331
They were doing an activity
together that evening.
1066
00:52:11,331 --> 00:52:12,833
And while they were doing
that activity,
1067
00:52:12,833 --> 00:52:14,765
they observed
this vehicle come in.
1068
00:52:14,765 --> 00:52:16,637
And so they were able
to give details,
1069
00:52:16,637 --> 00:52:21,271
including time details,
uh, and vehicle details.
1070
00:52:21,271 --> 00:52:23,744
One of them went
as far as to say
1071
00:52:23,744 --> 00:52:26,547
that they felt like
they observed
1072
00:52:26,547 --> 00:52:29,680
the adult male driving the truck
1073
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,482
potentially holding a child down
in the front seat of the truck.
1074
00:52:32,482 --> 00:52:36,757
And after they learn of Morgan,
they come forward
1075
00:52:36,757 --> 00:52:40,260
and pass the information on
to the Alma police department
1076
00:52:40,260 --> 00:52:42,432
that, "We were
at this particular location.
1077
00:52:42,432 --> 00:52:44,464
This is what we observed."
1078
00:52:44,464 --> 00:52:47,768
Uh, and then investigators
made contact with them,
1079
00:52:47,768 --> 00:52:50,370
got detailed witness
statements from them.
1080
00:52:50,370 --> 00:52:52,673
I know from one
of the witness statements, uh,
1081
00:52:52,673 --> 00:52:56,677
they said that the officers
took them out the next day.
1082
00:52:56,677 --> 00:52:58,448
There´s question on exactly
which day that was.
1083
00:52:58,448 --> 00:53:00,180
But the officer
took them out the next day.
1084
00:53:00,180 --> 00:53:01,712
They were unable to go back
to this location
1085
00:53:01,712 --> 00:53:03,554
because of the flooding.
1086
00:53:07,958 --> 00:53:09,820
In this area,
there´s a lot of farmland
1087
00:53:09,820 --> 00:53:11,722
that runs along the river.
1088
00:53:11,722 --> 00:53:14,224
Those areas are very much prone
to flood.
1089
00:53:14,224 --> 00:53:16,466
So, take Van Buren,
for instance.
1090
00:53:16,466 --> 00:53:17,728
I believe one of the things
I read,
1091
00:53:17,728 --> 00:53:20,200
the river is like
an 18 feet of Van Buren.
1092
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:24,605
It flows 10,000 to 15,000
cubic feet per second.
1093
00:53:24,605 --> 00:53:27,578
And we were looking
at flood stages, I believe,
1094
00:53:27,578 --> 00:53:29,740
of 32 feet at the time
1095
00:53:29,740 --> 00:53:32,212
where a couple days
after her abduction,
1096
00:53:32,212 --> 00:53:36,517
they recorded that as about
226,000 cubic feet per second
1097
00:53:36,517 --> 00:53:38,218
that river is flowing.
1098
00:53:38,218 --> 00:53:40,991
So when that river comes up,
and the, you know,
1099
00:53:40,991 --> 00:53:45,756
there´s articles at the time
from the farmers, where fields
1100
00:53:45,756 --> 00:53:49,329
that are a ways away from
the river are 4 feet underwater.
1101
00:53:49,329 --> 00:53:53,604
So naturally, for us looking
at this 24 years later,
1102
00:53:53,604 --> 00:53:55,906
we have to look at this
in the direction of, okay,
1103
00:53:55,906 --> 00:53:58,268
if we believe in the process
that we´re going,
1104
00:53:58,268 --> 00:54:00,010
we believe where we are,
1105
00:54:00,010 --> 00:54:02,743
uh, we´re looking
at three different things.
1106
00:54:02,743 --> 00:54:05,245
There is a potential --
You look at the potential
1107
00:54:05,245 --> 00:54:07,447
that Morgan left that location,
1108
00:54:07,447 --> 00:54:08,779
and then you have to look
at the potential
1109
00:54:08,779 --> 00:54:10,781
that Morgan
did not leave that location.
1110
00:54:10,781 --> 00:54:15,686
I´m very comfortable that,
from location number one
1111
00:54:15,686 --> 00:54:18,258
all the way
to location number seven,
1112
00:54:18,258 --> 00:54:19,790
I´m looking at the same truck.
1113
00:54:19,790 --> 00:54:22,663
I´m also very confident
I´m looking at the same subject.
1114
00:54:22,663 --> 00:54:24,665
It is a new direction
for the case.
1115
00:54:24,665 --> 00:54:27,397
110% it is a new
direction for the case.
1116
00:54:27,397 --> 00:54:29,039
So why is it significant today?
1117
00:54:29,039 --> 00:54:31,602
It´s significant today because
the majority of the people
1118
00:54:31,602 --> 00:54:33,373
don´t realize that truck
was shown a couple of times
1119
00:54:33,373 --> 00:54:37,007
in the beginning of this case.
And while it was shown,
1120
00:54:37,007 --> 00:54:39,980
it was not shown
with an emphasis of,
1121
00:54:39,980 --> 00:54:43,814
"We need to find this truck, and
we need to find this person."
1122
00:54:43,814 --> 00:54:47,287
And that is the emphasis today.
And that is -- that is something
1123
00:54:47,287 --> 00:54:49,419
that we greatly need
the public´s help with.
1124
00:54:49,419 --> 00:54:52,793
We´re not just asking for people
to send us every red truck
1125
00:54:52,793 --> 00:54:55,295
with a white camper
that they know about.
1126
00:54:55,295 --> 00:54:58,028
We´re looking specifically
for this truck.
1127
00:54:58,028 --> 00:55:01,371
And I want to say this
so y´all understand something.
1128
00:55:01,371 --> 00:55:03,534
The work that we´re
doing today
1129
00:55:03,534 --> 00:55:08,008
is off the backs
of all those people 25 years ago
1130
00:55:08,008 --> 00:55:09,980
that were running this to ground
at that time.
1131
00:55:09,980 --> 00:55:11,542
If they didn´t do their job,
we couldn´t do
1132
00:55:11,542 --> 00:55:13,644
what we´re doing today.
1133
00:55:13,644 --> 00:55:16,446
They -- They ran vehicles.
1134
00:55:16,446 --> 00:55:19,850
They put -- The state police
put troopers in every campground
1135
00:55:19,850 --> 00:55:22,953
in the state of Arkansas
for days looking for that truck
1136
00:55:22,953 --> 00:55:26,056
and pulling every record
for the red truck.
1137
00:55:26,056 --> 00:55:29,700
So it´s not like there has not
been a tremendous amount of work
1138
00:55:29,700 --> 00:55:33,934
going to the red truck, because
the witnesses said red truck.
1139
00:55:33,934 --> 00:55:38,509
There´s not been a focus
on this red truck.
1140
00:55:39,810 --> 00:55:42,673
We love her, and we miss her.
1141
00:55:42,673 --> 00:55:47,347
Whoever´s got her,
just bring her back to us,
1142
00:55:47,347 --> 00:55:48,679
where she belongs.
1143
00:55:48,679 --> 00:55:50,050
That was two weeks ago.
1144
00:55:50,050 --> 00:55:51,922
Today, a more hopeful
Colleen Nick
1145
00:55:51,922 --> 00:55:54,454
still awaits
the return of her daughter.
1146
00:55:54,454 --> 00:55:57,127
She and Morgan´s father say
what sees them through
1147
00:55:57,127 --> 00:56:00,691
is the support of friends
and strangers.
1148
00:56:00,691 --> 00:56:03,594
- They don´t have to care.
It doesn´t affect their lives.
1149
00:56:03,594 --> 00:56:04,965
You know, we have a lot
of friends around here
1150
00:56:04,965 --> 00:56:07,497
who know us.
And it affects you personally.
1151
00:56:07,497 --> 00:56:09,800
But these are people who just,
they don´t know us at all.
1152
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,602
You know,
some periods during the day,
1153
00:56:11,602 --> 00:56:14,905
you´re more hopeful
that she´ll turn up any minute.
1154
00:56:14,905 --> 00:56:20,450
And, uh, some periods of the
day, it´s hard to stay hopeful.
1155
00:56:20,450 --> 00:56:23,914
But you just got to keep --
keep staying hopeful.
1156
00:56:23,914 --> 00:56:26,116
That´s the only way
to keep going.
1157
00:56:27,988 --> 00:56:29,620
We were stationed in Europe,
1158
00:56:29,620 --> 00:56:31,992
and Morgan was born there.
1159
00:56:31,992 --> 00:56:35,125
And the night
that we went into labor,
1160
00:56:35,125 --> 00:56:37,768
the military hospital
wouldn´t let us in.
1161
00:56:37,768 --> 00:56:39,500
They had too many
newborn babies,
1162
00:56:39,500 --> 00:56:42,472
and so they literally
sent us away at the door,
1163
00:56:42,472 --> 00:56:45,576
and they sent us to a Crockett
House, a city hospital.
1164
00:56:45,576 --> 00:56:50,010
And when we got there,
1165
00:56:50,010 --> 00:56:51,912
the entire four hours
that we were there,
1166
00:56:51,912 --> 00:56:54,484
our nurse only spoke
one word of English.
1167
00:56:54,484 --> 00:56:58,018
The only thing that
she could say was push.
1168
00:56:58,018 --> 00:57:01,021
And so for four hours,
that´s really all we heard.
1169
00:57:01,021 --> 00:57:04,855
Um, and because of
the language barrier,
1170
00:57:04,855 --> 00:57:06,627
there were just
some miscommunications.
1171
00:57:06,627 --> 00:57:09,560
And so finally,
the doctor arrived,
1172
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,132
um, and within 10 minutes,
Morgan was born.
1173
00:57:12,132 --> 00:57:14,064
And, you know, I remember
Morgan being born,
1174
00:57:14,064 --> 00:57:19,910
and the doctor, um, holding her
and saying, "It´s a girl."
1175
00:57:19,910 --> 00:57:23,173
And we just kind of gasped,
and her -- her dad said,
1176
00:57:23,173 --> 00:57:26,216
"It´s a girl?" ´cause we thought
we were having a boy.
1177
00:57:26,216 --> 00:57:29,079
And so, um,
1178
00:57:29,079 --> 00:57:32,082
you know, they handed her to me.
1179
00:57:32,082 --> 00:57:34,224
And that was --
1180
00:57:37,628 --> 00:57:40,090
That was, um,
1181
00:57:40,090 --> 00:57:43,894
when I knew that
I would always fight for her,
1182
00:57:43,894 --> 00:57:46,567
you know, that I would do
everything that I could.
1183
00:57:46,567 --> 00:57:48,969
Um, people sometimes ask me now,
you know,
1184
00:57:48,969 --> 00:57:51,742
how can I still do this,
fight for her,
1185
00:57:51,742 --> 00:57:53,504
but how can I not?
1186
00:57:53,504 --> 00:57:56,547
Um, I don´t get up every day
and make that decision.
1187
00:57:56,547 --> 00:57:59,950
I literally made that decision
the day that she was born,
1188
00:57:59,950 --> 00:58:01,211
the day that I held her
in my arms,
1189
00:58:01,211 --> 00:58:04,555
that I would always
fight for her.
1190
00:58:08,719 --> 00:58:10,791
I could not
have held it together
1191
00:58:10,791 --> 00:58:13,794
the way that Colleen
has held it together
1192
00:58:13,794 --> 00:58:16,196
if that was one of my kids.
1193
00:58:16,196 --> 00:58:18,228
And it gives you that drive,
1194
00:58:18,228 --> 00:58:21,572
and it gives you that personal
connection that, you know,
1195
00:58:21,572 --> 00:58:25,536
we need to bring this baby home.
It is way beyond time.
1196
00:58:25,536 --> 00:58:28,979
My level of confidence
in the case is high, very high.
1197
00:58:28,979 --> 00:58:31,011
And my level of confidence
of -- of where we are,
1198
00:58:31,011 --> 00:58:32,883
what we´re looking at right now,
1199
00:58:32,883 --> 00:58:36,146
and the direction that we´re
headed is -- is extremely high.
1200
00:58:38,088 --> 00:58:40,020
Alright.
1201
00:58:40,020 --> 00:58:41,722
Alright.
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