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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:45,746 --> 00:00:47,447 Uh, C block here 2 00:00:47,447 --> 00:00:50,651 is our protective custody 3 00:00:50,651 --> 00:00:54,525 for those that are convicted of sex crimes, 4 00:00:54,525 --> 00:00:57,758 uh, anything from, you know, rape 5 00:00:57,758 --> 00:01:00,290 or anything to sexual assault, 6 00:01:00,290 --> 00:01:03,594 uh, an adult or child victim, uh, are housed here. 7 00:01:03,594 --> 00:01:05,796 These are convicted, uh, that are waiting to go 8 00:01:05,796 --> 00:01:07,838 to the Arkansas Department of Corrections. 9 00:01:07,838 --> 00:01:11,171 We keep them segregated from general population. 10 00:01:11,171 --> 00:01:13,443 Um, you know, there is -- 11 00:01:13,443 --> 00:01:16,577 Uh, even though this is jail, there is still honor. 12 00:01:16,577 --> 00:01:19,610 And these -- these type of -- of inmates 13 00:01:19,610 --> 00:01:22,282 aren´t welcomed in -- in general population. 14 00:01:25,686 --> 00:01:29,189 I don´t understand sex crimes, you know, 15 00:01:29,189 --> 00:01:32,663 um, especially when it becomes an adult and a child. 16 00:01:32,663 --> 00:01:34,695 I don´t see how a -- an adult 17 00:01:34,695 --> 00:01:37,828 can be sexually attracted to a child. 18 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,303 my belief is that they can´t be rehabilitated. 19 00:01:43,303 --> 00:01:44,805 You know, I know the -- the state, 20 00:01:44,805 --> 00:01:47,407 like other states, has programs for them. 21 00:01:47,407 --> 00:01:49,540 But, uh, I believe 22 00:01:49,540 --> 00:01:53,514 that, uh, if you´re sexually attracted to a child, 23 00:01:53,514 --> 00:01:56,817 you´re probably twisted beyond un-twisting. 24 00:02:06,226 --> 00:02:07,698 Whatcha got, there, Morgan? 25 00:02:07,698 --> 00:02:10,601 - Bike. - A bike? 26 00:02:10,601 --> 00:02:12,462 - Yep, my new bike. - Is that your first bike? 27 00:02:12,462 --> 00:02:15,405 - Yep, my new bike from Walmart. It´s a big bike. 28 00:02:15,405 --> 00:02:18,669 - It is? Oh, it´s got training wheels on it. 29 00:02:18,669 --> 00:02:20,571 - Yep. 30 00:02:20,571 --> 00:02:22,543 So, want me to ride it right now? 31 00:02:22,543 --> 00:02:25,546 - Hold on. I´m gonna take the picture. Say cheese, though. 32 00:02:25,546 --> 00:02:27,618 We were in the military. 33 00:02:27,618 --> 00:02:31,351 And so we came to Arkansas in 1993. 34 00:02:31,351 --> 00:02:34,585 When we got out of the military, we came here. 35 00:02:34,585 --> 00:02:37,327 Our family was here. It was, you know, his family, 36 00:02:37,327 --> 00:02:40,490 my family, they were all here, so we wanted to come back home. 37 00:02:40,490 --> 00:02:43,333 We´d been gone for almost 10 years, 38 00:02:43,333 --> 00:02:47,437 and we just wanted to come back home where our families were at. 39 00:02:47,437 --> 00:02:48,539 You like your bike? 40 00:02:48,539 --> 00:02:50,370 - Yeah. - Alright. 41 00:02:52,703 --> 00:02:55,245 We ended up moving to Ozark. 42 00:02:55,245 --> 00:02:58,879 Our families were, um, Alma, Dyer, Fort Smith. 43 00:02:58,879 --> 00:03:02,513 And I wanted to be a stay-at-home mom. 44 00:03:02,513 --> 00:03:04,655 You know, I wanted to be at home with my kids, 45 00:03:04,655 --> 00:03:06,757 um, invest in their lives. 46 00:03:06,757 --> 00:03:08,919 I didn´t want to have to take them to daycare. 47 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:13,423 And so I actually started a licensed daycare in my home 48 00:03:13,423 --> 00:03:15,796 so, you know, that we could supplement our income, 49 00:03:15,796 --> 00:03:17,568 and I could still be home with my children. 50 00:03:17,568 --> 00:03:19,199 So I had a licensed daycare. 51 00:03:19,199 --> 00:03:21,902 I had children who came to my house every day. 52 00:03:23,604 --> 00:03:25,275 Turn all the way around, Brandon. 53 00:03:25,275 --> 00:03:26,977 You look like a farm boy. Ooh, I like... 54 00:03:26,977 --> 00:03:29,610 Had been then also doing daycare 55 00:03:29,610 --> 00:03:32,342 on the weekends and in the evenings, so just a lot. 56 00:03:32,342 --> 00:03:36,286 And, um, in May of 1995, 57 00:03:36,286 --> 00:03:40,821 I had stopped all of my nighttime, overnight daycare 58 00:03:40,821 --> 00:03:42,823 and my weekends, because I just wanted to be able 59 00:03:42,823 --> 00:03:44,955 to spend some more time with my children. 60 00:03:44,955 --> 00:03:46,527 You want to just put it on her head? 61 00:03:46,527 --> 00:03:48,859 - How much do you love me? 62 00:03:48,859 --> 00:03:50,831 - I really do love you. 63 00:03:50,831 --> 00:03:52,803 - How much? 64 00:03:52,803 --> 00:03:54,565 - Very much, Morgan. 65 00:03:54,565 --> 00:03:56,006 This is a little girl 66 00:03:56,006 --> 00:03:58,839 who has a laugh that comes from way down here. 67 00:03:58,839 --> 00:04:02,342 Um, when she was in the first grade, 68 00:04:02,342 --> 00:04:04,615 she signed up -- 69 00:04:04,615 --> 00:04:06,917 She brought home papers to sign up for track. 70 00:04:06,917 --> 00:04:10,681 And we filled out all the papers and sent them back to school. 71 00:04:10,681 --> 00:04:13,754 And they had their first track practice at school. 72 00:04:13,754 --> 00:04:18,559 And, so, when she came home, she was so mad, and she said, 73 00:04:18,559 --> 00:04:20,390 "Do you know what they make you do in track? 74 00:04:20,390 --> 00:04:23,463 I had to go outside and run, and I was sweating," you know, 75 00:04:23,463 --> 00:04:26,436 two things that she didn´t like to do, run and sweat. 76 00:04:26,436 --> 00:04:31,001 And so, um, she quit, and she signed up for Girl Scouts, 77 00:04:31,001 --> 00:04:35,606 because she said that they could stay inside and glue stuff. 78 00:04:35,606 --> 00:04:37,447 - Mom? - What? 79 00:04:37,447 --> 00:04:39,349 - Hello. Um, 80 00:04:39,349 --> 00:04:44,284 c-could we play with the markers now? 81 00:04:44,284 --> 00:04:46,016 - Watch. - Rat girls. 82 00:04:46,016 --> 00:04:47,958 You look like a rat. 83 00:05:02,302 --> 00:05:03,534 Hi. 84 00:05:13,614 --> 00:05:17,017 - You know, hope is a -- 85 00:05:17,017 --> 00:05:20,450 a mind-set, so, well, I´d like to believe 86 00:05:20,450 --> 00:05:24,925 that we will recover Morgan alive and safely. 87 00:05:26,757 --> 00:05:30,360 but I´m also a realist, and most people in my job are. 88 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:31,862 Uh, and so is Colleen, 89 00:05:31,862 --> 00:05:35,806 that we know that the chances of that are higher 90 00:05:35,806 --> 00:05:37,808 that we won´t than we will. 91 00:05:37,808 --> 00:05:41,411 Uh, those percentages change a little bit periodically 92 00:05:41,411 --> 00:05:44,915 and -- but it´s quite a bit to the favor that we won´t. 93 00:05:44,915 --> 00:05:46,547 But it does happen. 94 00:05:46,547 --> 00:05:49,720 It´s not impossible, which keeps hope alive. 95 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,023 And then, the other part of that is that, you know, 96 00:05:53,023 --> 00:05:55,756 you got to consider the -- the consequences. 97 00:05:55,756 --> 00:05:59,129 If we find her, and she´s safe and alive, 98 00:05:59,129 --> 00:06:02,993 um, you know, there´s -- there´s still -- 99 00:06:02,993 --> 00:06:05,065 there´s still consequences. 100 00:06:05,065 --> 00:06:07,097 There´s probably been other victims 101 00:06:07,097 --> 00:06:10,541 because of our failure to be able to solve this case, 102 00:06:10,541 --> 00:06:12,843 and, um, there´ll be more. 103 00:06:12,843 --> 00:06:15,075 And so that becomes a high priority, 104 00:06:15,075 --> 00:06:19,109 is to -- to, uh, keep from having other victims, 105 00:06:19,109 --> 00:06:21,682 whether it´s in our jurisdiction or not. 106 00:06:35,826 --> 00:06:38,499 Catch it, Ryan! Catch it! Come on, catch it! 107 00:06:41,471 --> 00:06:43,403 This all began on a Friday night, 108 00:06:43,403 --> 00:06:45,606 uh, at a baseball field 109 00:06:45,606 --> 00:06:47,538 in what would I´d call downtown Alma. 110 00:06:47,538 --> 00:06:49,409 It was actually about a block, 111 00:06:49,409 --> 00:06:52,012 maybe a block and a half from the police department. 112 00:06:55,986 --> 00:06:58,819 Literally just like any -- any other day. 113 00:06:58,819 --> 00:07:01,421 It´s a Friday. Um, 114 00:07:01,421 --> 00:07:04,494 we get up. Everybody has breakfast. 115 00:07:04,494 --> 00:07:07,097 You know, the daycare kids are coming for the day. 116 00:07:07,097 --> 00:07:08,899 So, you know, we have activities planned 117 00:07:08,899 --> 00:07:10,731 and, you know, the little kids had crafts. 118 00:07:10,731 --> 00:07:14,134 And what I specifically remember 119 00:07:14,134 --> 00:07:17,568 is really making grilled cheese sandwiches 120 00:07:17,568 --> 00:07:20,440 for dinner that night, because my kids loved grilled cheese. 121 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:24,074 And we were planning to meet up with our friends. 122 00:07:24,074 --> 00:07:25,916 They´d invited us to come see one of their kids 123 00:07:25,916 --> 00:07:28,478 play in this Little League baseball game in Alma. 124 00:07:28,478 --> 00:07:30,851 And, um, the kids ate dinner. 125 00:07:30,851 --> 00:07:33,954 And I specifically remember, uh... 126 00:07:46,196 --> 00:07:47,898 I remember Morgan asking 127 00:07:47,898 --> 00:07:51,071 for a second sandwich. 128 00:07:51,071 --> 00:07:53,203 And I didn´t really have time to cook it. 129 00:07:53,203 --> 00:07:55,846 And she wasn´t a real big eater, 130 00:07:55,846 --> 00:07:57,548 so I didn´t really think that she needed it, 131 00:07:57,548 --> 00:07:59,550 and I didn´t make it for her. 132 00:08:11,962 --> 00:08:14,965 And so that -- that still bothers me. 133 00:08:19,169 --> 00:08:21,832 The kids went home probably around 5:00. 134 00:08:21,832 --> 00:08:25,536 And, you know, I gave all my kids baths. 135 00:08:25,536 --> 00:08:27,207 Morgan and I got ready to go to the game, 136 00:08:27,207 --> 00:08:28,839 and then the two little ones 137 00:08:28,839 --> 00:08:31,041 were going to go to -- to Grandma´s house. 138 00:08:31,041 --> 00:08:32,583 And I felt like it would be impossible 139 00:08:32,583 --> 00:08:34,214 to keep up with all of them at the game, 140 00:08:34,214 --> 00:08:37,548 so we were going to drop them off with Grandma 141 00:08:37,548 --> 00:08:41,151 and then, you know, go with our friends to the baseball game. 142 00:08:47,998 --> 00:08:49,259 It was a makeup game. 143 00:08:49,259 --> 00:08:52,002 Uh, we´d had a lot of rain 144 00:08:52,002 --> 00:08:55,606 the week before, and so the games were being made up. 145 00:08:55,606 --> 00:08:57,207 And so it was running a little late 146 00:08:57,207 --> 00:08:59,840 for a ballgame for kids that age. 147 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:00,971 It´s a little field. 148 00:09:00,971 --> 00:09:03,914 It´s got a, um -- a double fence 149 00:09:03,914 --> 00:09:05,946 that goes all the way around it. 150 00:09:05,946 --> 00:09:08,148 It´s got two little sets of bleachers, 151 00:09:08,148 --> 00:09:10,551 one on the first baseline, one on the third baseline, 152 00:09:10,551 --> 00:09:11,822 and, you know, it just opens 153 00:09:11,822 --> 00:09:13,554 onto these two little parking areas. 154 00:09:13,554 --> 00:09:16,557 There´s no concession stands. There´s no bathrooms. 155 00:09:16,557 --> 00:09:19,990 And so we just stayed in the upper parking area 156 00:09:19,990 --> 00:09:21,962 waiting for the game to finish. 157 00:09:21,962 --> 00:09:25,596 And when it finished, then we walked down 158 00:09:25,596 --> 00:09:29,099 and sat in the bleachers on the first baseline. 159 00:09:29,099 --> 00:09:30,701 Colleen was there. 160 00:09:30,701 --> 00:09:34,004 They were watching a friend´s kid play ball. 161 00:09:34,004 --> 00:09:37,207 Um, Morgan´s, uh, I´m not going to say 162 00:09:37,207 --> 00:09:39,349 super shy, but she´s not -- 163 00:09:39,349 --> 00:09:41,151 I mean, she´s not in her element. 164 00:09:41,151 --> 00:09:43,714 So she´s sitting with her mom. 165 00:09:43,714 --> 00:09:45,616 Uh, there´s some other children there, 166 00:09:45,616 --> 00:09:48,188 and they´re wanting her to go play. 167 00:09:48,188 --> 00:09:51,792 Morgan sat with me. You know, she was 6 years old. 168 00:09:51,792 --> 00:09:54,795 She was a little bit on the shy side, 169 00:09:54,795 --> 00:09:56,997 a little bit quiet. 170 00:09:56,997 --> 00:09:58,969 And she didn´t want to go play with them, 171 00:09:58,969 --> 00:10:00,300 and she just wanted to sit with me. 172 00:10:00,300 --> 00:10:05,175 And I remember she kept untying my shoes, 173 00:10:05,175 --> 00:10:07,608 and I had to pretend like, "Oh, my gosh. 174 00:10:07,608 --> 00:10:09,139 How did that happen? How did my shoe get untied?" 175 00:10:09,139 --> 00:10:10,841 And she would just laugh and laugh. 176 00:10:10,841 --> 00:10:13,213 You know, it was just the most hilarious thing to her. 177 00:10:13,213 --> 00:10:15,045 - They go back and forth quite a bit, 178 00:10:15,045 --> 00:10:18,318 I think, those two kids, and anyway, at some point, 179 00:10:18,318 --> 00:10:20,821 Colleen lets her go, plays with the kids. 180 00:10:20,821 --> 00:10:23,193 Right before the game ended, 181 00:10:23,193 --> 00:10:26,026 they, um, came back again and asked her to go play, 182 00:10:26,026 --> 00:10:29,129 and they asked her if she wanted to catch fireflies. 183 00:10:29,129 --> 00:10:31,902 And, um, she wanted to go. 184 00:10:31,902 --> 00:10:34,705 It was the first time that she had wanted to all night. 185 00:10:34,705 --> 00:10:37,107 And I told her that she couldn´t. 186 00:10:37,107 --> 00:10:38,709 And I told her that I just thought 187 00:10:38,709 --> 00:10:40,210 it was too late and too dark. 188 00:10:40,210 --> 00:10:44,645 And, you know, she continued to, um, ask me. 189 00:10:44,645 --> 00:10:48,979 I was thinking about the times that I had been told 190 00:10:48,979 --> 00:10:53,153 that I was too overprotective as a parent, 191 00:10:53,153 --> 00:10:57,387 that, you know, I need to find space 192 00:10:57,387 --> 00:11:00,160 to let my kids have a little bit of freedom. 193 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,063 You know, I walked my kids to the bus stop every day, 194 00:11:03,063 --> 00:11:04,665 walked back and met them, walked them home. 195 00:11:04,665 --> 00:11:06,767 It was just down the block. But to me, 196 00:11:06,767 --> 00:11:08,999 it just seemed like those were the right things to do. 197 00:11:08,999 --> 00:11:10,671 So that was on my mind, 198 00:11:10,671 --> 00:11:12,342 you know, that I´m too overprotective. 199 00:11:12,342 --> 00:11:16,046 And my friends said, you know, "Kids have been playing here. 200 00:11:16,046 --> 00:11:17,277 I mean, it´s perfectly safe." 201 00:11:17,277 --> 00:11:18,809 And kids had been playing all night. 202 00:11:18,809 --> 00:11:20,410 They´re running back and forth. 203 00:11:20,410 --> 00:11:22,883 I mean, it´s this double fence. It´s this double fence. 204 00:11:22,883 --> 00:11:25,155 There are no concessions. There are no bathrooms, 205 00:11:25,155 --> 00:11:27,357 just -- just these cars in the flat area 206 00:11:27,357 --> 00:11:29,119 and this row of cars up on the top. 207 00:11:29,119 --> 00:11:32,122 And we can clearly see, uh -- 208 00:11:32,122 --> 00:11:35,265 We can clearly see all of it to our left-hand side there. 209 00:11:35,265 --> 00:11:37,027 You know, we´re facing the field. 210 00:11:37,027 --> 00:11:38,729 Um, the parking lot is to our left. 211 00:11:38,729 --> 00:11:44,234 And that´s when I had, uh, that feeling like 212 00:11:44,234 --> 00:11:47,808 something was wrong. Something wasn´t right. 213 00:11:47,808 --> 00:11:50,480 It, you know, it just kind of -- 214 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,013 And I thought to myself, 215 00:11:53,013 --> 00:11:57,017 "I´m -- I´m being ridiculous. I´m overprotective." 216 00:11:57,017 --> 00:11:59,049 Uh, and I know it doesn´t make sense, 217 00:11:59,049 --> 00:12:02,192 but I just had the feeling that something was really 218 00:12:02,192 --> 00:12:04,825 not okay in that moment. 219 00:12:09,900 --> 00:12:12,132 You know, she, uh -- 220 00:12:12,132 --> 00:12:16,937 she really wanted to go catch those fireflies, and... 221 00:12:16,937 --> 00:12:20,871 I think the thing I remember most 222 00:12:20,871 --> 00:12:22,442 is, um... 223 00:12:25,245 --> 00:12:27,878 ...how happy she was when I told her she could go. 224 00:12:27,878 --> 00:12:30,350 And she just, you know, flung her arms around my neck 225 00:12:30,350 --> 00:12:34,224 in a big, old hug and, um... 226 00:12:34,224 --> 00:12:36,026 kissed me on the cheek. 227 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:46,236 She, uh, climbed down out of the stands with her two friends 228 00:12:46,236 --> 00:12:48,499 and -- and ran together with them. 229 00:12:48,499 --> 00:12:51,241 Um, and I remember them running in front of her, 230 00:12:51,241 --> 00:12:53,904 ´cause she was a little bit smaller than them. 231 00:12:53,904 --> 00:12:56,877 Running out, uh, between the gates 232 00:12:56,877 --> 00:12:59,850 and playing in front of the cars. 233 00:13:01,952 --> 00:13:05,115 they were -- they were chasing each other 234 00:13:05,115 --> 00:13:07,387 in, um -- in single file, 235 00:13:07,387 --> 00:13:10,160 and she was the very last one. 236 00:13:12,793 --> 00:13:15,526 And I just looked up as they were running across. 237 00:13:15,526 --> 00:13:20,531 You know, she had on her little, um, green Girl Scout T-shirt, 238 00:13:20,531 --> 00:13:25,105 because you know Girl Scouts can stay inside and glue stuff. 239 00:13:26,507 --> 00:13:29,179 And, um, 240 00:13:29,179 --> 00:13:31,481 she was just the last one in the row. 241 00:13:31,481 --> 00:13:34,314 And, um, and she was focused on them. 242 00:13:34,314 --> 00:13:35,846 She never -- She didn´t look down, 243 00:13:35,846 --> 00:13:39,289 but I looked at her running across with them 244 00:13:39,289 --> 00:13:41,451 and turned back to the game. 245 00:13:46,196 --> 00:13:49,329 And that was the last time I saw her. 246 00:13:49,329 --> 00:13:51,031 Good job. 247 00:13:54,304 --> 00:13:55,566 Good job. 248 00:13:55,566 --> 00:13:58,438 - They´re in this sort of a parking lot. 249 00:13:58,438 --> 00:14:00,040 It´s not an official parking lot, 250 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,342 but it is an area where people park. 251 00:14:02,342 --> 00:14:04,274 It´s to the east, and it´s up on a hill 252 00:14:04,274 --> 00:14:05,976 overlooking the ball field. 253 00:14:05,976 --> 00:14:08,619 It´s actually where Colleen had parked that night. 254 00:14:08,619 --> 00:14:11,852 And they were playing in a sand pile 255 00:14:11,852 --> 00:14:14,625 back at the back side of that area where they parked. 256 00:14:14,625 --> 00:14:16,587 They were kind of all around the parking lot. 257 00:14:16,587 --> 00:14:19,229 They´re kids. They´re just out there playing. 258 00:14:19,229 --> 00:14:21,992 Right before the ball game ended, 259 00:14:21,992 --> 00:14:24,935 and they were -- they were all coming back down. 260 00:14:24,935 --> 00:14:29,540 And apparently, she stopped to get sand out of her shoes, 261 00:14:29,540 --> 00:14:32,973 uh, and had sat down on the ground to do that. 262 00:15:14,945 --> 00:15:17,688 By all accounts, that´s the last time that we know of somebody -- 263 00:15:17,688 --> 00:15:21,391 were able to identify somebody that saw her past that point. 264 00:15:24,494 --> 00:15:26,497 First of all, tell me what we´re doing out here tonight. 265 00:15:26,497 --> 00:15:29,029 Okay. We got a call about, 266 00:15:29,029 --> 00:15:32,132 uh, I believe it was at 11:07 p.m. 267 00:15:32,132 --> 00:15:36,306 Uh, had a missing child at the Alma Little League Ballpark 268 00:15:36,306 --> 00:15:38,238 on Walnut Street here in Alma, 269 00:15:38,238 --> 00:15:41,441 just about a block and a half west of our location here. 270 00:15:41,441 --> 00:15:44,474 Uh, got down there and of course just started 271 00:15:44,474 --> 00:15:48,318 to check the area, hoping to find the -- the child. 272 00:15:48,318 --> 00:15:50,280 Our officer, uh, Sergeant Harris 273 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,452 was the first officer to arrive. 274 00:15:52,452 --> 00:15:54,424 At that time, I was only like a mile away. 275 00:15:54,424 --> 00:15:56,386 It was right there on 64 highway. 276 00:15:56,386 --> 00:15:58,559 And soon as I pull up, I see a group of people. 277 00:15:58,559 --> 00:16:00,160 We rallied at the police department, 278 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,032 then went down to the ballpark. 279 00:16:02,032 --> 00:16:05,365 Sergeant Harris was giving us some preliminary information. 280 00:16:05,365 --> 00:16:07,297 - I see Colleen there, 281 00:16:07,297 --> 00:16:10,601 which I knew Colleen from Ozark from years past. 282 00:16:10,601 --> 00:16:14,444 - They noticed Morgan missing somewhere around 10:40 283 00:16:14,444 --> 00:16:18,308 but thought she just walked off. And so the -- 284 00:16:18,308 --> 00:16:21,111 Colleen and the parents around there were looking for her. 285 00:16:21,111 --> 00:16:23,654 - You know, I thought it was more of a missing child, 286 00:16:23,654 --> 00:16:26,587 maybe a, you know, a grandmother, grandfather, 287 00:16:26,587 --> 00:16:28,458 you know, miscommunicating with the parents 288 00:16:28,458 --> 00:16:29,590 and picking up the child. 289 00:16:29,590 --> 00:16:31,361 But once I arrived back, 290 00:16:31,361 --> 00:16:33,393 and we started actually, you know, 291 00:16:33,393 --> 00:16:36,597 planning on -- on processing a crime scene, 292 00:16:36,597 --> 00:16:38,599 I knew it was more, 293 00:16:38,599 --> 00:16:41,401 you know, than that, than just a lost child. 294 00:16:41,401 --> 00:16:43,574 I went up to Colleen and started talking to her, 295 00:16:43,574 --> 00:16:45,405 and she said, "We can´t find Morgan. 296 00:16:45,405 --> 00:16:46,707 We´ve looked and looked and looked, 297 00:16:46,707 --> 00:16:48,709 and we can´t find her." So at that time, 298 00:16:48,709 --> 00:16:50,440 I started looking and getting some more officers. 299 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,412 And I called Russell and told Russell, I said, "Hey, 300 00:16:52,412 --> 00:16:54,484 we got a missing child down here at the ball field." 301 00:16:54,484 --> 00:16:56,687 - You know, my assignment that night 302 00:16:56,687 --> 00:16:58,619 was -- was the crime scene. 303 00:16:58,619 --> 00:17:03,524 And, uh, we roped it off with crime scene tape. 304 00:17:03,524 --> 00:17:06,226 - Uh, it was a loose, unorganized search. 305 00:17:06,226 --> 00:17:09,299 It was just parents and people that were down there, 306 00:17:09,299 --> 00:17:11,502 uh, you know, looking for her. 307 00:17:11,502 --> 00:17:15,105 Immediately, the public was not organized at all. 308 00:17:15,105 --> 00:17:16,507 They´re -- They´re on their own. 309 00:17:16,507 --> 00:17:18,338 Course, we have no communication with them. 310 00:17:18,338 --> 00:17:20,440 They´re not standing there. We don´t have a command post. 311 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,044 So they´re not coming to us and asking us what to do. 312 00:17:24,044 --> 00:17:28,048 They´re going out on their own and -- and looking. 313 00:17:28,048 --> 00:17:30,380 Morgan! 314 00:17:30,380 --> 00:17:33,153 - And -- And at some point, they´re -- they´re reporting 315 00:17:33,153 --> 00:17:36,657 back to us if they see something or think something´s up. 316 00:17:36,657 --> 00:17:39,389 Uh, the officers, uh, by radio, 317 00:17:39,389 --> 00:17:41,562 uh, you know, we all have communications together, 318 00:17:41,562 --> 00:17:42,833 even with the other agencies. 319 00:17:42,833 --> 00:17:45,536 So we´re somewhat keeping up with that. 320 00:17:45,536 --> 00:17:47,538 We´re putting out the-- all these descriptions 321 00:17:47,538 --> 00:17:50,771 that we -- you know, and things like that. 322 00:17:50,771 --> 00:17:52,673 I made contact with then 323 00:17:52,673 --> 00:17:54,805 I believe he was the rank of lieutenant 324 00:17:54,805 --> 00:17:57,377 with state police, Chuck Lambert. 325 00:17:57,377 --> 00:18:00,380 And, uh, we roped it off with crime scene tape, 326 00:18:00,380 --> 00:18:02,553 uh, they´d brought in. They were looking for some lights, 327 00:18:02,553 --> 00:18:04,314 wanting to get some lights and stuff, 328 00:18:04,314 --> 00:18:06,116 even though we had the ball field lights. 329 00:18:06,116 --> 00:18:10,521 The house just behind the field, I was facing it. 330 00:18:10,521 --> 00:18:12,162 It had a screened-in porch. And of course, 331 00:18:12,162 --> 00:18:14,565 this was like 3:00 in the morning by then. 332 00:18:14,565 --> 00:18:17,297 And a guy lights up a cigarette. 333 00:18:17,297 --> 00:18:18,729 And I just -- I said, "Chuck," 334 00:18:18,729 --> 00:18:20,771 I said, "that guy´s been watching us." 335 00:18:23,233 --> 00:18:27,137 Chuck hollered at him, but he wouldn´t respond. 336 00:18:27,137 --> 00:18:29,810 So that kind of sparked a neighborhood canvass, 337 00:18:29,810 --> 00:18:31,742 you know, to just, you know, knock on doors, 338 00:18:31,742 --> 00:18:33,584 see if anybody saw anything, heard anything. 339 00:18:33,584 --> 00:18:35,485 - So, Russell got there, and we started calling 340 00:18:35,485 --> 00:18:38,619 more people out then and more people and more people. 341 00:18:38,619 --> 00:18:42,152 We saturated the area. And at that time, uh, 342 00:18:42,152 --> 00:18:45,155 it rained. We had -- It was flooded and stuff, 343 00:18:45,155 --> 00:18:47,157 and we had to be real careful where we went 344 00:18:47,157 --> 00:18:48,559 and all that stuff. 345 00:18:48,559 --> 00:18:50,300 You couldn´t get out into the fields hardly, 346 00:18:50,300 --> 00:18:51,532 but we did, you know? 347 00:18:51,532 --> 00:18:53,163 - It´s still pretty random. 348 00:18:53,163 --> 00:18:55,806 We don´t have a direction to look at that point. 349 00:18:55,806 --> 00:18:58,308 We´re just looking. We´re hoping to -- 350 00:18:58,308 --> 00:18:59,670 ´Cause we´ve got just a -- You know, 351 00:18:59,670 --> 00:19:02,613 we -- we know our time period was short there, 352 00:19:02,613 --> 00:19:06,146 to, if she´s in a vehicle, to try to -- to locate her. 353 00:19:12,853 --> 00:19:16,527 Where we believe that she was last seen 354 00:19:16,527 --> 00:19:20,591 was on a hilltop just overlooking the ball field. 355 00:19:20,591 --> 00:19:22,933 And there were things. You know, there was, uh, 356 00:19:22,933 --> 00:19:25,295 if I´m not mistaken, a couple Coke cans, 357 00:19:25,295 --> 00:19:27,437 you know, cigarette butts, you know, things that we thought 358 00:19:27,437 --> 00:19:30,370 that maybe we can get DNA off of or fingerprints off of. 359 00:19:30,370 --> 00:19:33,203 Any tire tracks or any footprints in the sand 360 00:19:33,203 --> 00:19:34,905 or right around the sand there, like, 361 00:19:34,905 --> 00:19:38,208 I don´t recall us seeing any footprints or anything like that 362 00:19:38,208 --> 00:19:40,911 and any, uh, tire tracks. 363 00:19:40,911 --> 00:19:43,654 And we looked at so many things right in that area. 364 00:19:43,654 --> 00:19:46,316 And so there was nothing that really stood out. 365 00:19:46,316 --> 00:19:47,558 - You know, we picked up 366 00:19:47,558 --> 00:19:48,819 everything that was on the ground, 367 00:19:48,819 --> 00:19:50,761 anything that was on the ground there 368 00:19:50,761 --> 00:19:52,863 that wasn´t a rock that would have been there 369 00:19:52,863 --> 00:19:55,726 or a blade of grass that was growing, we collected. 370 00:19:55,726 --> 00:19:57,367 If it was there, we took it, 371 00:19:57,367 --> 00:19:59,229 ´cause we didn´t know if we´d need it or not. 372 00:19:59,229 --> 00:20:02,472 - Where Morgan and the -- the other children was playing at 373 00:20:02,472 --> 00:20:05,676 is kinda above the bleachers. It´s on a little hill, right? 374 00:20:05,676 --> 00:20:08,308 There´s like some sand and stuff there. I remember that. 375 00:20:08,308 --> 00:20:10,280 And that´s where they was playing at. 376 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:11,882 And -- But more -- 377 00:20:11,882 --> 00:20:14,244 Colleen was down on the bleachers, and it´s kinda down. 378 00:20:14,244 --> 00:20:16,386 It´s not too far away, but it´s down, you know? 379 00:20:16,386 --> 00:20:19,219 Back then, that was a parking lot for the apartments 380 00:20:19,219 --> 00:20:22,923 and also the street department, it -- 381 00:20:22,923 --> 00:20:25,455 That parking lot joined the street department. 382 00:20:25,455 --> 00:20:26,827 So there were sand piles. 383 00:20:26,827 --> 00:20:29,830 There were culverts and things like that. 384 00:20:29,830 --> 00:20:34,004 And they were playing with Morgan, uh, in the sand piles. 385 00:20:34,004 --> 00:20:37,437 - And I recall one of the kids telling me, 386 00:20:37,437 --> 00:20:39,339 can´t recall which one it was, but telling me 387 00:20:39,339 --> 00:20:41,672 that there was a man had come up. 388 00:20:46,517 --> 00:20:49,279 - They describe the guy as a white male. 389 00:20:49,279 --> 00:20:53,924 Um, has got a, uh, kind of a scruffy beard. 390 00:20:53,924 --> 00:20:58,729 He´s got, uh, I believe he´s wearing shorts. 391 00:20:58,729 --> 00:21:01,261 And at some point -- I don´t know if he´s shirtless 392 00:21:01,261 --> 00:21:03,433 or his shirt´s open. I can´t remember. 393 00:21:03,433 --> 00:21:04,995 But I think they describe him 394 00:21:04,995 --> 00:21:09,870 as having some hair on his -- on his chest and stomach 395 00:21:09,870 --> 00:21:12,402 but not a lot of it, kind of maybe a strip. 396 00:21:12,402 --> 00:21:15,576 And they had a description of the vehicle he was driving. 397 00:21:15,576 --> 00:21:17,047 - Was it credible? Was it not? 398 00:21:17,047 --> 00:21:19,349 You know, really, that´s all we had to go by. 399 00:21:19,349 --> 00:21:23,053 And, you know, they were playing with Morgan. 400 00:21:23,053 --> 00:21:24,885 Tye and Jessica were playing with Morgan. 401 00:21:24,885 --> 00:21:29,389 The statement was made that this suspect in the red truck 402 00:21:29,389 --> 00:21:31,762 with a camper that didn´t fit. 403 00:21:31,762 --> 00:21:34,024 Now, there´s different definitions 404 00:21:34,024 --> 00:21:37,367 of how it didn´t fit, but it didn´t fit right on it, 405 00:21:37,367 --> 00:21:40,300 was sitting there, uh, in the truck 406 00:21:40,300 --> 00:21:41,802 with the door open, smoking. 407 00:21:41,802 --> 00:21:42,873 Two children, the boy and girl, 408 00:21:42,873 --> 00:21:44,835 they went, they told Morgan 409 00:21:44,835 --> 00:21:46,677 they´re going back down there where Colleen was. 410 00:21:46,677 --> 00:21:48,779 - The kids took off, all three of them. 411 00:21:48,779 --> 00:21:50,040 Morgan stopped. 412 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:51,582 But they said Morgan said 413 00:21:51,582 --> 00:21:53,684 she´s gonna empty the sand out of her shoes, 414 00:21:53,684 --> 00:21:56,717 and then she´s gonna come on back down there and stuff. 415 00:21:56,717 --> 00:22:00,050 - Uh, I believe Tye stayed back with her. 416 00:22:00,050 --> 00:22:02,623 And as she had finished tying her shoe, 417 00:22:02,623 --> 00:22:04,625 he took off running down the hill, 418 00:22:04,625 --> 00:22:07,698 and she hasn´t been seen since. 419 00:22:07,698 --> 00:22:09,630 - That was the last time. 420 00:22:21,542 --> 00:22:24,775 One of the -- One of the children, uh, 421 00:22:24,775 --> 00:22:26,517 was the son of the -- the guy 422 00:22:26,517 --> 00:22:28,378 that Colleen was sitting with there. 423 00:22:28,378 --> 00:22:30,551 And, uh, so they came back to the area. 424 00:22:30,551 --> 00:22:33,754 And then Colleen obviously noticed Morgan wasn´t there, 425 00:22:33,754 --> 00:22:36,527 and she asked where she was at. 426 00:22:36,527 --> 00:22:39,990 Um, they said she had stopped to take sand out her shoes. 427 00:22:39,990 --> 00:22:43,063 So Colleen looks in that direction, 428 00:22:43,063 --> 00:22:45,996 and she doesn´t see her, which is not, 429 00:22:45,996 --> 00:22:47,768 if you´re familiar with the area, 430 00:22:47,768 --> 00:22:50,671 would not be totally unusual. With the cars there, 431 00:22:50,671 --> 00:22:53,544 it just depends on where she actually stopped. 432 00:22:53,544 --> 00:22:56,076 Uh, Colleen didn´t panic at that point or anything. 433 00:22:56,076 --> 00:22:59,379 She just got up and started going up that way. 434 00:22:59,379 --> 00:23:02,012 And then of course, obviously, she didn´t find Morgan. 435 00:23:02,012 --> 00:23:04,484 She didn´t see any vehicles leaving 436 00:23:04,484 --> 00:23:06,857 as she´s walking up that she remembers. 437 00:23:06,857 --> 00:23:11,522 Um, so we think that that short period of time there, 438 00:23:11,522 --> 00:23:14,494 those two or three minutes that might have occurred 439 00:23:14,494 --> 00:23:16,627 from the time the kids came down 440 00:23:16,627 --> 00:23:19,399 till she actually had the conversation with Colleen 441 00:23:19,399 --> 00:23:22,773 is when it occurred, when Morgan disappeared. 442 00:23:22,773 --> 00:23:24,905 We really think we kind of narrowed it down. 443 00:23:24,905 --> 00:23:27,738 We think it´s a good possibility it´s a red truck, 444 00:23:27,738 --> 00:23:29,780 still no make, with a white camper shell. 445 00:23:29,780 --> 00:23:31,712 We don´t want to just limit it to that. 446 00:23:31,712 --> 00:23:34,845 But that´s what at this time we believe it´s going to be, 447 00:23:34,845 --> 00:23:37,087 a red pickup with a white camper, 448 00:23:37,087 --> 00:23:40,120 white male, dark hair, short dark beard. 449 00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:44,024 And of course the last time he was seen, uh, no shirt. 450 00:23:44,024 --> 00:23:46,126 - They took Jessica and Tye. 451 00:23:46,126 --> 00:23:49,560 And the Identi-Kit is, uh -- 452 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,032 It´s not actually an artist´s drawing. 453 00:23:52,032 --> 00:23:54,164 It´s just, you know, you put eyes. You put hair. 454 00:23:54,164 --> 00:23:56,737 You put face, you put beard, things like that, 455 00:23:56,737 --> 00:23:58,208 and you come up with a composite. 456 00:23:58,208 --> 00:24:01,071 And that´s the original suspect composite 457 00:24:01,071 --> 00:24:02,673 came from the Identi-Kit. 458 00:24:02,673 --> 00:24:04,945 - You know, we have to take into age account. 459 00:24:04,945 --> 00:24:06,647 There´s a couple things with kids. 460 00:24:06,647 --> 00:24:09,219 They´re -- You know, they tell you what they saw. 461 00:24:09,219 --> 00:24:12,022 And they´re -- 462 00:24:12,022 --> 00:24:14,625 Uh, when you´re interviewing these kids, 463 00:24:14,625 --> 00:24:16,026 you know, there´s no question 464 00:24:16,026 --> 00:24:18,759 they see things just like me and you see things, 465 00:24:18,759 --> 00:24:20,691 and they can tell you that. 466 00:24:20,691 --> 00:24:22,533 You know, no matter really what their age 467 00:24:22,533 --> 00:24:24,064 or if they´re -- if they´re verbal, 468 00:24:24,064 --> 00:24:25,996 uh, they can -- they can tell you. 469 00:24:25,996 --> 00:24:29,670 So the next day, I think, was when the Identi-Kits were done, 470 00:24:29,670 --> 00:24:32,743 uh, because the kids had seen somebody in the parking lot, 471 00:24:32,743 --> 00:24:35,806 um, and we needed to know what that person looked like. 472 00:24:35,806 --> 00:24:39,610 So we were trying to identify everybody at the ball fields. 473 00:24:39,610 --> 00:24:42,482 Uh, and we knew there was this one person 474 00:24:42,482 --> 00:24:44,254 that -- that we didn´t know who it was. 475 00:24:44,254 --> 00:24:45,956 The kids had seen him. 476 00:24:45,956 --> 00:24:48,819 And so the Identi-Kits were done. 477 00:24:48,819 --> 00:24:51,862 It´s been almost 24 hours since Morgan disappeared 478 00:24:51,862 --> 00:24:54,965 from the Little League field in Alma. 479 00:24:54,965 --> 00:24:56,697 You know, there´s a difference between sitting down 480 00:24:56,697 --> 00:25:00,000 with an interview that -- that is an interview 481 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,802 and asking the kids questions. 482 00:25:01,802 --> 00:25:04,104 You know, we asked the kids questions that night, 483 00:25:04,104 --> 00:25:06,106 immediately. We didn´t sit down 484 00:25:06,106 --> 00:25:08,138 with a formal interview with them 485 00:25:08,138 --> 00:25:10,641 till several days later. 486 00:25:10,641 --> 00:25:13,013 Uh, but the Identi-Kits were done the next day. 487 00:25:13,013 --> 00:25:14,985 And you also got to remember, they were young, 488 00:25:14,985 --> 00:25:17,588 and it was late at night. They´d been up all day, 489 00:25:17,588 --> 00:25:20,050 uh, you know, so, uh, you know, 490 00:25:20,050 --> 00:25:22,753 3:00 in the morning for a child that hadn´t been to bed 491 00:25:22,753 --> 00:25:25,125 is not a good time to be asking them anything. 492 00:25:25,125 --> 00:25:28,028 Because of the short time that went from 493 00:25:28,028 --> 00:25:30,230 when Morgan was last seen by the kids 494 00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:32,933 to the time that Colleen started looking for her 495 00:25:32,933 --> 00:25:35,906 and the fact that she didn´t see a vehicle leaving 496 00:25:35,906 --> 00:25:39,710 and from what I´ve been told of Morgan and -- 497 00:25:39,710 --> 00:25:42,873 I don´t think Morgan was coerced into the truck. 498 00:25:42,873 --> 00:25:45,576 I think that it was more of a grab and go. 499 00:25:45,576 --> 00:25:47,618 I think it happened very quickly. 500 00:25:47,618 --> 00:25:51,722 Uh, and he probably, on his way out of the parking lot, 501 00:25:51,722 --> 00:25:54,054 I think he stepped out of the truck, grabbed her, 502 00:25:54,054 --> 00:25:55,185 put her in, and took off. 503 00:26:09,199 --> 00:26:11,241 Good. 504 00:26:17,147 --> 00:26:19,049 I remember sitting in the car that night, 505 00:26:19,049 --> 00:26:21,652 and, uh, storms had moved in. 506 00:26:21,652 --> 00:26:24,755 It was raining, lightning. 507 00:26:24,755 --> 00:26:26,757 Wind was blowing hard. 508 00:26:26,757 --> 00:26:29,289 I mean, it was a bad thunderstorm, 509 00:26:29,289 --> 00:26:30,821 raining real hard. 510 00:26:30,821 --> 00:26:32,623 Trying to act like a hot shot. 511 00:26:32,623 --> 00:26:34,224 Morgan, did you hear what Daddy said? 512 00:26:34,224 --> 00:26:35,926 What did he say? 513 00:26:38,268 --> 00:26:41,201 I just said out there in the car by myself... 514 00:26:45,375 --> 00:26:48,338 ...with horrible thoughts going through my head. 515 00:26:52,212 --> 00:26:56,787 I honestly really almost didn´t make it through that night. 516 00:26:58,348 --> 00:27:00,250 I think it´s real nice of everybody, you know, 517 00:27:00,250 --> 00:27:03,724 really helps a lot to know that everybody´s supporting us. 518 00:27:05,656 --> 00:27:08,959 You know, I guess we don´t get a chance to say -- 519 00:27:08,959 --> 00:27:10,901 appreciate everybody enough, but, you know, 520 00:27:10,901 --> 00:27:13,263 I want to thank everybody who is helping. 521 00:27:13,263 --> 00:27:16,066 I´d like to say, Morgan, you know it´s Father´s Day. 522 00:27:16,066 --> 00:27:18,639 I want to see you before the day is over. 523 00:27:18,639 --> 00:27:21,742 - You know, we´ve had lots of leads on John. 524 00:27:21,742 --> 00:27:24,675 "Why isn´t he involved? You know, he don´t care," this -- 525 00:27:24,675 --> 00:27:27,117 You know, the thing with John, and people got to understand 526 00:27:27,117 --> 00:27:29,119 that we needed the news media. 527 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,182 We needed it to put out information every day for us. 528 00:27:32,182 --> 00:27:34,855 We were getting new information every day. 529 00:27:34,855 --> 00:27:38,088 The best way for us to get it out was by the news media. 530 00:27:38,088 --> 00:27:41,031 It was the fastest. It was widespread. 531 00:27:41,031 --> 00:27:42,663 And they were willing to do it. 532 00:27:42,663 --> 00:27:45,065 They were willing to help, but only to a point. 533 00:27:45,065 --> 00:27:48,298 Uh, you know, myself and, uh, Lieutenant Best 534 00:27:48,298 --> 00:27:50,340 getting up in front of the camera every day 535 00:27:50,340 --> 00:27:52,142 was not something the public was going to 536 00:27:52,142 --> 00:27:53,874 want to watch every night. 537 00:27:53,874 --> 00:27:56,106 We needed Colleen involved. 538 00:27:56,106 --> 00:27:58,078 So we convinced Colleen to be involved, 539 00:27:58,078 --> 00:28:00,781 basically dragging and kicking and screaming 540 00:28:00,781 --> 00:28:04,354 into the press room to -- "You´ve got to do this." 541 00:28:04,354 --> 00:28:07,357 And so she did, uh, reluctantly, 542 00:28:07,357 --> 00:28:10,060 but, uh, she did well at it. 543 00:28:10,060 --> 00:28:11,762 And she got better at it. And she learned 544 00:28:11,762 --> 00:28:14,364 that it was a tool, and she learned how to use it. 545 00:28:14,364 --> 00:28:16,897 My daughter never ran off. She´s very shy, 546 00:28:16,897 --> 00:28:18,228 and she´s very quiet. 547 00:28:18,228 --> 00:28:20,330 If you think you see something, 548 00:28:20,330 --> 00:28:23,373 it doesn´t matter even if you´re not sure. 549 00:28:23,373 --> 00:28:25,806 Call the police immediately. 550 00:28:25,806 --> 00:28:27,838 - John had no interest in it. 551 00:28:27,838 --> 00:28:32,012 He did everything we ever asked him in the case. 552 00:28:32,012 --> 00:28:35,746 One day, I was up there at the -- the police station. 553 00:28:35,746 --> 00:28:37,417 We were all -- all there 554 00:28:37,417 --> 00:28:42,452 on the steps going up to the -- to the police station there. 555 00:28:42,452 --> 00:28:45,055 And Colleen was, like, standing up by the door. 556 00:28:45,055 --> 00:28:47,057 And there were several people there. 557 00:28:47,057 --> 00:28:51,101 There was different media and police, 558 00:28:51,101 --> 00:28:53,233 and I don´t know who all was there, 559 00:28:53,233 --> 00:28:55,135 just a bunch of people. 560 00:28:55,135 --> 00:28:57,437 Lady from a local news channel here, 561 00:28:57,437 --> 00:29:01,411 her and her camera guy pretty much pushed me out of the way 562 00:29:01,411 --> 00:29:03,373 to get to Colleen. 563 00:29:03,373 --> 00:29:06,416 I turned around, and I said, you know, "Excuse you. 564 00:29:06,416 --> 00:29:08,949 You need to watch where you´re -- where you´re walking." 565 00:29:08,949 --> 00:29:11,321 And she said, you know, "I´m sorry. 566 00:29:11,321 --> 00:29:15,085 It´s just, nobody wants to hear what the dad has to say. 567 00:29:15,085 --> 00:29:17,858 Everybody wants to hear what the mom has -- 568 00:29:17,858 --> 00:29:19,960 the mother has to say." 569 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,292 And I took it to heart, and I said, "You know what? 570 00:29:22,292 --> 00:29:24,795 I don´t like talking to you assholes, either, 571 00:29:24,795 --> 00:29:26,396 and I´m not going to." 572 00:29:26,396 --> 00:29:31,001 And 24 years later, I still hadn´t spoken to the media. 573 00:29:31,001 --> 00:29:34,905 He never denied us access to anything or any of that. 574 00:29:34,905 --> 00:29:38,378 He was just basically as cooperative as Colleen. 575 00:29:38,378 --> 00:29:41,251 He just wasn´t out front with them. People didn´t see him. 576 00:29:41,251 --> 00:29:44,484 He wasn´t on the news, you know. So people gathered from that 577 00:29:44,484 --> 00:29:46,386 that the only person they saw was Colleen, 578 00:29:46,386 --> 00:29:48,789 and that -- that John didn´t care. 579 00:29:48,789 --> 00:29:50,190 And that just wasn´t true. 580 00:29:50,190 --> 00:29:52,062 - And that was one of their big things 581 00:29:52,062 --> 00:29:54,424 was, you know, I had to do something with it 582 00:29:54,424 --> 00:29:57,127 because nobody knows where I´m at. 583 00:29:57,127 --> 00:29:59,029 Nobody knows me. 584 00:29:59,029 --> 00:30:00,370 Hi, Morgan. 585 00:30:00,370 --> 00:30:04,104 - Wait till I finish drawing my picture. 586 00:30:04,104 --> 00:30:05,375 - Okay. 587 00:30:05,375 --> 00:30:07,107 You know, and there´s people, you know, 588 00:30:07,107 --> 00:30:09,840 people pointing their fingers at me and blaming me. 589 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,543 I´ve went through a lot of emotions about that stuff. 590 00:30:12,543 --> 00:30:14,545 You know, I´ve been through them all, 591 00:30:14,545 --> 00:30:17,017 the whole range of emotions, you know? 592 00:30:17,017 --> 00:30:19,489 At first, it really, really hurt. 593 00:30:19,489 --> 00:30:21,421 You know, it´s really painful 594 00:30:21,421 --> 00:30:23,524 for somebody to point their finger and say, 595 00:30:23,524 --> 00:30:25,255 "That´s who hurt that little girl. 596 00:30:25,255 --> 00:30:27,057 That´s who took that little girl." 597 00:30:27,057 --> 00:30:30,260 You know, it was real painful. 598 00:30:30,260 --> 00:30:32,002 Come on. 599 00:30:32,002 --> 00:30:35,265 I moved from it being painful to I laughed about it. 600 00:30:35,265 --> 00:30:37,037 I took it as a joke. 601 00:30:37,037 --> 00:30:39,610 You know, it just shows these people don´t know me. 602 00:30:39,610 --> 00:30:42,573 I could never hurt a child. I love children. 603 00:30:42,573 --> 00:30:47,477 I could definitely never do anything to hurt one. 604 00:30:47,477 --> 00:30:48,919 You know, so I laughed about it. 605 00:30:48,919 --> 00:30:51,051 These people were stupid, you know? 606 00:30:51,051 --> 00:30:55,355 And I moved on from that, and I got where it made me mad. 607 00:30:55,355 --> 00:30:57,227 I get mad every time I hear it, 608 00:30:57,227 --> 00:31:00,591 and I, you know, couple times, you know, I -- 609 00:31:03,393 --> 00:31:06,266 You know, I wanted to jump on people, you know, for it 610 00:31:06,266 --> 00:31:07,938 and shut them up. 611 00:31:07,938 --> 00:31:10,871 But, you know, that´s not the right way to do stuff, 612 00:31:10,871 --> 00:31:14,344 and I know it, and so I refrained. 613 00:31:14,344 --> 00:31:16,547 And I moved on from anger to, 614 00:31:16,547 --> 00:31:19,109 you know, just pretty much accept it. 615 00:31:19,109 --> 00:31:21,612 You know, I don´t care what they say about me. 616 00:31:21,612 --> 00:31:23,483 As long as they´re talking about me, 617 00:31:23,483 --> 00:31:26,587 Morgan´s name is still being out there. 618 00:31:26,587 --> 00:31:28,458 And if they want to talk shit about me 619 00:31:28,458 --> 00:31:32,392 and point their finger at me, so be it. 620 00:31:32,392 --> 00:31:35,125 As long as she´s still being talked about, 621 00:31:35,125 --> 00:31:36,667 I don´t care what they say about me. 622 00:31:36,667 --> 00:31:39,530 You know, I didn´t do it. I had nothing to do with it. 623 00:31:39,530 --> 00:31:43,534 I just want to find out what happened to my kid. 624 00:31:43,534 --> 00:31:46,607 And I don´t care what it takes. I don´t care. 625 00:31:57,988 --> 00:32:01,251 - A question. Can a piece of home videotape 626 00:32:01,251 --> 00:32:03,694 help police find Morgan Nick? 627 00:32:03,694 --> 00:32:05,255 Well, a viewer may have caught 628 00:32:05,255 --> 00:32:07,197 the alleged kidnapper´s truck on tape, 629 00:32:07,197 --> 00:32:09,399 but, uh, will this help the investigation? 630 00:32:09,399 --> 00:32:11,331 Beth Derayma sat down with police today 631 00:32:11,331 --> 00:32:13,133 as they watched the tape 632 00:32:13,133 --> 00:32:16,537 to see if the truck is the one they´re looking for. 633 00:32:16,537 --> 00:32:18,539 - The pickup truck that we -- - Lieutenant Dale Best 634 00:32:18,539 --> 00:32:20,971 watched this tape that a viewer gave us. 635 00:32:20,971 --> 00:32:22,543 It was shot at the Alma ball field 636 00:32:22,543 --> 00:32:25,015 the day Morgan Nick disappeared. 637 00:32:25,015 --> 00:32:27,077 It appears to be the red truck with white camper 638 00:32:27,077 --> 00:32:28,649 that police are looking for. 639 00:32:28,649 --> 00:32:31,321 But Best isn´t so sure. 640 00:32:31,321 --> 00:32:34,555 - Uh, it doesn´t really look like a Ford pickup truck. 641 00:32:34,555 --> 00:32:37,027 And we´re not real sure about this camper shell. 642 00:32:37,027 --> 00:32:40,030 Best says what looks to be a camper shell in the video 643 00:32:40,030 --> 00:32:43,193 might actually be a storm door in the bed of the truck. 644 00:32:43,193 --> 00:32:45,135 However, investigators are being called in 645 00:32:45,135 --> 00:32:48,539 to study the video to see if they can pull out any clues. 646 00:32:48,539 --> 00:32:50,340 In the meantime, the search for Morgan Nick 647 00:32:50,340 --> 00:32:52,002 is now in its fifth day. 648 00:32:52,002 --> 00:32:53,504 But still no sign of the 6-year-old girl 649 00:32:53,504 --> 00:32:55,345 or the man who may have taken her. 650 00:32:55,345 --> 00:32:58,448 - We started collecting video of, uh, parents, 651 00:32:58,448 --> 00:33:01,181 grandparents that were videoing their kids 652 00:33:01,181 --> 00:33:03,483 at not only that ball game, 653 00:33:03,483 --> 00:33:07,287 but also the high school ball field and even the complex. 654 00:33:07,287 --> 00:33:11,992 Just in case we caught somebody, you know, that looked suspicious 655 00:33:11,992 --> 00:33:15,095 or try to identify a vehicle or a person. 656 00:33:15,095 --> 00:33:17,067 - If you´re asking me if we got videos of red trucks, 657 00:33:17,067 --> 00:33:20,070 Absolutely. We got video of red truck with camper shell, 658 00:33:20,070 --> 00:33:22,703 Yes, we do. Could it be the one that took Morgan? 659 00:33:22,703 --> 00:33:25,235 Yes. Is it? I don´t know at this point. 660 00:33:25,235 --> 00:33:27,377 - It´s the same pickup truck that we have pictures of. 661 00:33:27,377 --> 00:33:29,479 We already have this tape. 662 00:33:29,479 --> 00:33:33,584 And we have tried to examine, uh, this pickup truck closely. 663 00:33:33,584 --> 00:33:35,485 In fact, we´ve had some enlargements made. 664 00:33:35,485 --> 00:33:37,588 In fact, we´ve gone to 400 times. 665 00:33:37,588 --> 00:33:40,390 So we´ve got a red truck with a white camper shell 666 00:33:40,390 --> 00:33:43,153 at the same ball field, not that night 667 00:33:43,153 --> 00:33:46,456 but at a different time frame, but we don´t know whose it is. 668 00:33:46,456 --> 00:33:49,229 If we can find that truck and identify it, 669 00:33:49,229 --> 00:33:51,261 it may be our suspect. It may not be. 670 00:33:51,261 --> 00:33:52,703 If it´s a guy that lives down the street, 671 00:33:52,703 --> 00:33:55,065 and he comes to a ball game every week, 672 00:33:55,065 --> 00:33:56,737 and, you know, we can clear him, 673 00:33:56,737 --> 00:33:58,468 then we know that´s not our truck. 674 00:33:58,468 --> 00:34:02,072 So it wasn´t that we were believing for sure 675 00:34:02,072 --> 00:34:03,443 that this is this truck, 676 00:34:03,443 --> 00:34:06,116 but we want to determine whether it is or not. 677 00:34:06,116 --> 00:34:08,779 So we need to identify it and whose it is 678 00:34:08,779 --> 00:34:12,122 to be able to figure out if this is the red truck 679 00:34:12,122 --> 00:34:13,624 we´re looking for or not the red truck. 680 00:34:15,085 --> 00:34:17,427 Not that I´m aware of. 681 00:34:17,427 --> 00:34:19,259 - Oh, I know that we were just inundated 682 00:34:19,259 --> 00:34:21,131 with sightings of the truck. 683 00:34:21,131 --> 00:34:23,063 One of the leads police are working on 684 00:34:23,063 --> 00:34:25,065 happened in Colleyville, Texas. 685 00:34:25,065 --> 00:34:28,739 A teacher was almost abducted by a man in a red pickup truck. 686 00:34:28,739 --> 00:34:30,641 She got away but was run over. 687 00:34:30,641 --> 00:34:33,243 There was actually a local guy 688 00:34:33,243 --> 00:34:37,748 that lived in the county that drove a ´60s model Ford pickup 689 00:34:37,748 --> 00:34:40,210 or early ´70s model Ford pickup 690 00:34:40,210 --> 00:34:42,753 that was red in color with a white camper shell 691 00:34:42,753 --> 00:34:46,817 that was about a foot too long for the -- for it. 692 00:34:46,817 --> 00:34:50,791 And I do know that he had been stopped so many times 693 00:34:50,791 --> 00:34:53,824 by law enforcement that he took shoe polish 694 00:34:53,824 --> 00:34:55,796 and wrote on the back, "I´m not the abductor" 695 00:34:55,796 --> 00:34:58,468 or "I didn´t take her," or something like that. 696 00:34:58,468 --> 00:35:00,571 Since Morgan´s kidnapping on June 9th, 697 00:35:00,571 --> 00:35:02,432 police have received hundreds of calls 698 00:35:02,432 --> 00:35:04,705 from people who have spotted the truck. 699 00:35:04,705 --> 00:35:07,708 Tim Reed of Alma was pulled over twice in his pickup, 700 00:35:07,708 --> 00:35:09,209 but he doesn´t seem to mind. 701 00:35:09,209 --> 00:35:10,711 - You know, it was a little hassle, 702 00:35:10,711 --> 00:35:12,513 but it´s good to know that they´re out -- 703 00:35:12,513 --> 00:35:14,214 out to capture him. 704 00:35:14,214 --> 00:35:15,746 However, there are some people 705 00:35:15,746 --> 00:35:17,818 who say they´re being hassled by the public 706 00:35:17,818 --> 00:35:19,590 just because they drive a truck 707 00:35:19,590 --> 00:35:22,322 that looks like the one police are trying to find. 708 00:35:22,322 --> 00:35:25,756 - Their vehicle has been tailgated, 709 00:35:25,756 --> 00:35:28,559 pinned in parking lots, and in fact, one person got out 710 00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:30,300 and tried to search the truck. 711 00:35:30,300 --> 00:35:31,802 We´d like to caution the general public 712 00:35:31,802 --> 00:35:34,204 from taking any type of enforcement action. 713 00:35:34,204 --> 00:35:36,667 If you think you see the truck police are looking for, 714 00:35:36,667 --> 00:35:39,710 jot down the license plate number and call them. 715 00:35:39,710 --> 00:35:42,142 And if you drive a red Ford pickup truck, 716 00:35:42,142 --> 00:35:43,744 police say be patient. 717 00:35:43,744 --> 00:35:45,145 But I remember, you know, 718 00:35:45,145 --> 00:35:47,548 as several of us were viewing those, 719 00:35:47,548 --> 00:35:50,480 "Oh, if they´d just panned just a little bit more, 720 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,882 we might have saw something." 721 00:35:51,882 --> 00:35:55,155 I remember us cheering, going, "Go, go, go, go!" 722 00:35:55,155 --> 00:35:57,828 Because where this truck was, 723 00:35:57,828 --> 00:36:02,292 it was almost directly behind home plate. 724 00:36:02,292 --> 00:36:05,295 If they´d just panned a little bit more to the left, 725 00:36:05,295 --> 00:36:07,167 they could have got that area. 726 00:36:07,167 --> 00:36:08,669 - So, the truck´s still a viable lead, 727 00:36:08,669 --> 00:36:12,472 but it´s only viable for the time frame that it was in. 728 00:36:12,472 --> 00:36:15,546 The truck may still exist, and we would still like to find it. 729 00:36:15,546 --> 00:36:18,378 There may be evidence in that truck, uh, 730 00:36:18,378 --> 00:36:21,882 or just knowing -- tracking the ownership of that truck. 731 00:36:21,882 --> 00:36:23,884 So, absolutely, the truck´s a great lead. 732 00:36:23,884 --> 00:36:28,318 But, you know, it needs to be relevant to the time. 733 00:36:35,926 --> 00:36:37,367 The Alma police department 734 00:36:37,367 --> 00:36:39,229 making a huge announcement today. 735 00:36:39,229 --> 00:36:42,272 The city council and mayor have appointed chief Jeff Pointer 736 00:36:42,272 --> 00:36:44,274 as the permanent police chief there. 737 00:36:44,274 --> 00:36:46,537 Took over the chief position after Russell White 738 00:36:46,537 --> 00:36:50,210 retired from the position after 25 years. 739 00:36:53,714 --> 00:36:57,688 In 1998, uh, Russell hired me as a dispatcher. 740 00:36:57,688 --> 00:37:00,290 Not long after that, I was hired as a patrolman. 741 00:37:00,290 --> 00:37:03,554 You know, during that time, Russell and I become friends. 742 00:37:03,554 --> 00:37:06,827 You know, he told me he could see me being his replacement. 743 00:37:06,827 --> 00:37:09,700 And, of course, that´s 20 years, you know -- 744 00:37:09,700 --> 00:37:12,703 The case was, at that time, 24 years old. 745 00:37:12,703 --> 00:37:15,966 And -- And what had been happening in the case 746 00:37:15,966 --> 00:37:18,669 was not working. So, uh, I-I just came in 747 00:37:18,669 --> 00:37:20,771 with -- with open eyes and open ears 748 00:37:20,771 --> 00:37:25,546 and, uh, took suggestions from, um -- from other investigators. 749 00:37:25,546 --> 00:37:27,578 Captain Hartley approached me 750 00:37:27,578 --> 00:37:30,781 about going back to -- to June the 9th, 1995, 751 00:37:30,781 --> 00:37:33,453 and not starting over in the -- in the investigation, 752 00:37:33,453 --> 00:37:35,626 but looking back at some things 753 00:37:35,626 --> 00:37:37,287 that was done early and, you know, 754 00:37:37,287 --> 00:37:41,532 and just reviewing what happened on June the 9th. 755 00:37:41,532 --> 00:37:43,433 What if someone did miss something? 756 00:37:43,433 --> 00:37:45,766 And by us going back and reviewing 757 00:37:45,766 --> 00:37:47,868 some of those first things the first few days 758 00:37:47,868 --> 00:37:51,301 and, I mean, it could make a difference. 759 00:38:00,551 --> 00:38:02,282 Truly, I think the easiest way 760 00:38:02,282 --> 00:38:03,884 to probably describe it for anybody who -- 761 00:38:03,884 --> 00:38:05,756 that was there that night, even in law enforcement, 762 00:38:05,756 --> 00:38:07,518 it´s a helpless feeling. 763 00:38:13,023 --> 00:38:15,626 And the longer time went on, 764 00:38:15,626 --> 00:38:18,028 the more helpless that you felt. 765 00:38:21,572 --> 00:38:22,933 It´s our duty to protect. 766 00:38:22,933 --> 00:38:26,336 And you´ve got a 6-year-old baby out there 767 00:38:26,336 --> 00:38:28,579 that somebody abducted, 768 00:38:28,579 --> 00:38:31,041 and we have not found her, and we have not brought her home. 769 00:38:35,516 --> 00:38:37,788 You know, anytime you´ve got a-a missing child, 770 00:38:37,788 --> 00:38:39,790 I think, in law enforcement, 771 00:38:39,790 --> 00:38:43,423 uh, it creates a little bit of apprehension in you. 772 00:38:48,599 --> 00:38:51,461 In 25 years of law enforcement here, 773 00:38:51,461 --> 00:38:55,005 Morgan is the only one we haven´t found. 774 00:38:55,005 --> 00:38:58,909 Appreciate the -- the time to come in and talk to y´all 775 00:38:58,909 --> 00:39:01,512 and bring you up to speed a little bit on this. 776 00:39:01,512 --> 00:39:03,073 We want you to have the information, 777 00:39:03,073 --> 00:39:04,875 because you will see it. 778 00:39:04,875 --> 00:39:08,819 Um, you´re going to see it in a couple of different ways. 779 00:39:08,819 --> 00:39:11,882 And so this is very simply to give you a heads-up 780 00:39:11,882 --> 00:39:13,984 so you´re not blindsided when you see that. 781 00:39:13,984 --> 00:39:17,528 Emotionally, there´s probably gon´ be some emotion 782 00:39:17,528 --> 00:39:19,359 in this tonight, 783 00:39:19,359 --> 00:39:21,091 and it´s understandable, 784 00:39:21,091 --> 00:39:23,864 and it´s all good, okay? 785 00:39:23,864 --> 00:39:26,797 If you get mad, you get mad. If you cry, you cry. 786 00:39:26,797 --> 00:39:29,970 Uh, I´ve had all those emotions, 787 00:39:29,970 --> 00:39:33,874 and I´m not in your family. 788 00:39:38,909 --> 00:39:42,613 So, kind of going back and painting a picture of her case, 789 00:39:42,613 --> 00:39:44,384 what happened on the law enforcement side 790 00:39:44,384 --> 00:39:46,857 after she was abducted 791 00:39:46,857 --> 00:39:49,960 is leads came in by the droves. 792 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:55,165 Suspect composites have been a lot, uh, of those leads, 793 00:39:55,165 --> 00:39:58,799 and known offenders have been a lot of those leads. 794 00:39:58,799 --> 00:40:01,932 Anytime anybody commits a crime in the United States 795 00:40:01,932 --> 00:40:04,174 that comes close to this, they call it in 796 00:40:04,174 --> 00:40:05,936 whether or not there´s any connection. 797 00:40:05,936 --> 00:40:08,809 We have over 8,300 leads in her case. 798 00:40:08,809 --> 00:40:10,611 So, let´s talk about composites, 799 00:40:10,611 --> 00:40:13,644 because there´s been a lot out over the years, 800 00:40:13,644 --> 00:40:15,415 and there´s been a lot of questions over the years 801 00:40:15,415 --> 00:40:16,817 about composites. 802 00:40:16,817 --> 00:40:18,849 There were two children playing with Morgan 803 00:40:18,849 --> 00:40:20,521 the night of the abduction. 804 00:40:20,521 --> 00:40:22,993 So, these are the original two Identi-Kits 805 00:40:22,993 --> 00:40:25,826 that came out in the case from those two witnesses. 806 00:40:25,826 --> 00:40:30,130 Four days after the abduction, they have gotten information 807 00:40:30,130 --> 00:40:32,863 that there was a lead coming out of a laundromat, 808 00:40:32,863 --> 00:40:35,205 an attempted abduction at a laundromat. 809 00:40:35,205 --> 00:40:37,808 So then they turn around and release this composite. 810 00:40:37,808 --> 00:40:43,073 On, uh, August 13th of ´97, they had this drawn. 811 00:40:43,073 --> 00:40:45,716 And what this is is what´s out today. 812 00:40:45,716 --> 00:40:49,980 And essentially, this is a hybrid of these two. 813 00:40:49,980 --> 00:40:52,152 Where we are today with the case 814 00:40:52,152 --> 00:40:57,087 is I´m not focused on composites. 815 00:40:57,087 --> 00:40:59,860 The direction that this case has always went 816 00:40:59,860 --> 00:41:03,634 has been running leads based off a composite. 817 00:41:03,634 --> 00:41:07,738 I mean, truthfully, that was the last 24 years of this case. 818 00:41:07,738 --> 00:41:10,100 I´m looking for something different. 819 00:41:10,100 --> 00:41:13,504 And you may say, "Well, this has been the last 820 00:41:13,504 --> 00:41:15,806 20, 24 years of her case." 821 00:41:15,806 --> 00:41:18,749 And I would say yes, absolutely, you´re right. 822 00:41:18,749 --> 00:41:22,252 Uh, as far as the hybrid and what´s out today, 823 00:41:22,252 --> 00:41:24,154 we´re talking 25 years into a case. 824 00:41:24,154 --> 00:41:26,587 We´re not going to do an age progression on this. 825 00:41:26,587 --> 00:41:28,258 This is going to the background for us. 826 00:41:28,258 --> 00:41:30,921 I´m looking for facts. I´m looking for details. 827 00:41:30,921 --> 00:41:32,893 I´m looking for specifics 828 00:41:32,893 --> 00:41:35,866 that I can focus on aside from composites. 829 00:41:35,866 --> 00:41:40,901 The vehicle of interest and the person of interest in this, 830 00:41:40,901 --> 00:41:45,105 uh, or actually the vehicles parked next to Colleen´s car 831 00:41:45,105 --> 00:41:47,608 up at the top of the hill. What is in the reports 832 00:41:47,608 --> 00:41:49,780 is when they first pull into the lot, 833 00:41:49,780 --> 00:41:54,084 that they pass three, four vehicles. 834 00:41:54,084 --> 00:41:57,588 And then the gentleman that Colleen was following there 835 00:41:57,588 --> 00:41:59,790 parks his vehicle on the far side, 836 00:41:59,790 --> 00:42:01,952 which would be deepest end of the lot, 837 00:42:01,952 --> 00:42:04,054 uh, is where Colleen had parked. 838 00:42:04,054 --> 00:42:07,257 The reports and everything that I´m able to look at 839 00:42:07,257 --> 00:42:09,630 indicates that this red truck 840 00:42:09,630 --> 00:42:12,132 ended up being parked on the other side of Colleen. 841 00:42:12,132 --> 00:42:13,704 To this day, Colleen will tell you 842 00:42:13,704 --> 00:42:15,606 that she does not remember 843 00:42:15,606 --> 00:42:17,838 that -- that truck being on that hill. 844 00:42:17,838 --> 00:42:19,640 I think here´s the easiest thing. 845 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,873 Um, if you went to your local store today, 846 00:42:22,873 --> 00:42:24,615 and you got out of your car, and you went inside, 847 00:42:24,615 --> 00:42:26,847 and you got back in your car, and you left, 848 00:42:26,847 --> 00:42:28,719 can you tell me what color the vehicles were 849 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,251 and what the vehicles were that were sitting around your vehicle 850 00:42:31,251 --> 00:42:34,154 or the one, uh, you know, that passed you 851 00:42:34,154 --> 00:42:35,786 as you were getting ready to go through a crosswalk? 852 00:42:35,786 --> 00:42:37,227 The answer to that is no. 853 00:42:37,227 --> 00:42:39,890 And so it is not an uncommon thing. 854 00:42:39,890 --> 00:42:42,232 Uh, I think that´s something that really bothers her, 855 00:42:42,232 --> 00:42:44,094 but that is not an uncommon thing 856 00:42:44,094 --> 00:42:48,999 for somebody to not recognize, uh, and be able to place that. 857 00:42:48,999 --> 00:42:51,001 You know, I think part of the public perception 858 00:42:51,001 --> 00:42:53,173 is that, you know, 859 00:42:53,173 --> 00:42:55,806 she says, "Well, Morgan´s with me the whole time," 860 00:42:55,806 --> 00:42:57,177 but she´s probably out running around 861 00:42:57,177 --> 00:42:58,779 with the other kids that were out playing. 862 00:42:58,779 --> 00:43:01,882 She´s not. She´s -- She´s with her mom 863 00:43:01,882 --> 00:43:03,854 until right up toward the end of the game. 864 00:43:03,854 --> 00:43:06,256 And then there are other children playing. 865 00:43:06,256 --> 00:43:08,258 I mean, we´ve got that documented in reports. 866 00:43:08,258 --> 00:43:09,820 We have those kids identified. 867 00:43:09,820 --> 00:43:12,723 There was another parent actually 868 00:43:12,723 --> 00:43:13,794 that was in an apartment building 869 00:43:13,794 --> 00:43:15,295 right there where that lot was 870 00:43:15,295 --> 00:43:17,267 that was coming out and checking on her children. 871 00:43:17,267 --> 00:43:21,001 So, a lot of people at the ball field. 872 00:43:21,001 --> 00:43:25,275 I mean, it is not like anything to where she sent her child off 873 00:43:25,275 --> 00:43:28,879 to where her child cannot be seen or anything else like that. 874 00:43:28,879 --> 00:43:31,612 You´ve got to consider, you know, 875 00:43:31,612 --> 00:43:34,985 the innocence in 1995 in the city of Alma. 876 00:43:34,985 --> 00:43:36,887 It was shattered with Morgan, 877 00:43:36,887 --> 00:43:38,288 because you didn´t think anything 878 00:43:38,288 --> 00:43:40,220 about allowing your child to go play like that. 879 00:43:40,220 --> 00:43:42,623 The person stayed up there and watched the ball game. 880 00:43:42,623 --> 00:43:45,756 We know that, from witness statements, 881 00:43:45,756 --> 00:43:47,828 there were periods of time when this person got out 882 00:43:47,828 --> 00:43:51,131 and leaned on the hood of the truck. 883 00:43:51,131 --> 00:43:55,906 And we know of, outside of Tye, Jessica, and Morgan, 884 00:43:55,906 --> 00:43:58,268 of no other contact or connection 885 00:43:58,268 --> 00:44:01,642 between this individual and any of the other kids 886 00:44:01,642 --> 00:44:03,714 or anybody else up on the hill. 887 00:44:03,714 --> 00:44:06,677 I´m interested in the truck. I´m interested in finding out, 888 00:44:06,677 --> 00:44:09,179 making this solid to me personally, 889 00:44:09,179 --> 00:44:11,181 looking at this and saying, "Okay, 890 00:44:11,181 --> 00:44:12,983 what -- what do we have here?" 891 00:44:12,983 --> 00:44:17,928 And I came up with a list of 20 people from June the 9th 892 00:44:17,928 --> 00:44:21,031 that provided information on a red truck. 893 00:44:21,031 --> 00:44:22,733 Three of the primary people and witnesses 894 00:44:22,733 --> 00:44:27,037 that were talked to, uh, were actually given hypnosis, 895 00:44:27,037 --> 00:44:29,770 and they provided some vehicle license information. 896 00:44:29,770 --> 00:44:31,171 They did their due diligence 897 00:44:31,171 --> 00:44:33,874 when they received this information 898 00:44:33,874 --> 00:44:36,306 in August of ´95, 899 00:44:36,306 --> 00:44:38,278 and they ran those tags. 900 00:44:38,278 --> 00:44:41,051 And I start looking, and I realize 901 00:44:41,051 --> 00:44:43,383 that in this one particular state, 902 00:44:43,383 --> 00:44:48,058 every one of these tags have returned no record. 903 00:44:48,058 --> 00:44:51,161 So I run, 24 years later, an NCIC offline search 904 00:44:51,161 --> 00:44:53,223 on these tags, and I get some hits. 905 00:44:53,223 --> 00:44:55,025 So we´re looking at two different avenues. 906 00:44:55,025 --> 00:44:58,168 We´re looking at this truck. We´re looking at these tags. 907 00:44:58,168 --> 00:45:01,401 And as I continue to work on the sheet with these trucks, 908 00:45:01,401 --> 00:45:04,775 I get to right in the 20th person. 909 00:45:04,775 --> 00:45:07,077 I start digging through files, looking for more witnesses, 910 00:45:07,077 --> 00:45:09,409 more things, and I come across a photograph. 911 00:45:09,409 --> 00:45:11,111 I pull the photograph out, 912 00:45:11,111 --> 00:45:15,986 and I´m looking at a red truck with a white camper. 913 00:45:15,986 --> 00:45:19,820 And having the 20 people´s statements fresh in my mind 914 00:45:19,820 --> 00:45:21,391 when I look at this truck, I think, 915 00:45:21,391 --> 00:45:24,024 "Oh, my God. I´m looking at the truck." 916 00:45:26,226 --> 00:45:28,859 It doesn´t quite fit. Is there something there 917 00:45:28,859 --> 00:45:30,731 that, other than being red, 918 00:45:30,731 --> 00:45:32,032 there something there that really makes you think 919 00:45:32,032 --> 00:45:33,864 that this could be the truck or -- 920 00:45:33,864 --> 00:45:36,436 - It doesn´t really look like a Ford pickup truck 921 00:45:36,436 --> 00:45:38,809 and we´re not real sure about this camper shell. 922 00:45:38,809 --> 00:45:40,511 But, yes, 923 00:45:40,511 --> 00:45:42,472 we have this film, and we have looked at that, 924 00:45:42,472 --> 00:45:46,446 and we continue to examine it, and we´re utilizing it 925 00:45:46,446 --> 00:45:48,378 in our investigation at this time. 926 00:45:48,378 --> 00:45:50,150 The image that they pull from the video, 927 00:45:50,150 --> 00:45:53,223 I believe they had it, um, 928 00:45:53,223 --> 00:45:56,256 with -- roughly within a week of the abduction 929 00:45:56,256 --> 00:45:58,458 they had that. I´m wanting to say they actually had that 930 00:45:58,458 --> 00:46:02,032 close to the 13th, 14th, somewhere in there. 931 00:46:02,032 --> 00:46:04,064 The suspect who took Morgan Nick is believed 932 00:46:04,064 --> 00:46:06,867 to be driving an older model red Ford pickup 933 00:46:06,867 --> 00:46:08,539 with a white camper shell. 934 00:46:08,539 --> 00:46:11,101 A parent at the ball field where Morgan was last seen 935 00:46:11,101 --> 00:46:13,443 caught this red truck on home video. 936 00:46:13,443 --> 00:46:15,245 But after further investigation, 937 00:46:15,245 --> 00:46:17,477 police say this truck is a Mazda 938 00:46:17,477 --> 00:46:19,950 and it´s owned by a parent who was at the ball field 939 00:46:19,950 --> 00:46:21,381 where Morgan disappeared. 940 00:46:21,381 --> 00:46:23,213 - They are saying that, that it has been cleared. 941 00:46:23,213 --> 00:46:25,956 It doesn´t name any agency in particular 942 00:46:25,956 --> 00:46:28,158 that supposedly cleared that. 943 00:46:28,158 --> 00:46:30,320 What I can tell you is, 944 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,523 based on the facts of what I find and what I read, 945 00:46:32,523 --> 00:46:35,225 I have not found a single document at this point 946 00:46:35,225 --> 00:46:37,427 that tells me that truck´s cleared, 947 00:46:37,427 --> 00:46:39,500 that an owner of that truck has been identified. 948 00:46:39,500 --> 00:46:42,032 As a matter of fact, I have documents -- 949 00:46:42,032 --> 00:46:43,433 One of the things that they did, 950 00:46:43,433 --> 00:46:46,276 uh, they -- they obtained information 951 00:46:46,276 --> 00:46:48,909 from everybody that attended the ball field. 952 00:46:48,909 --> 00:46:51,081 Uh, part of that information is what vehicles they drove 953 00:46:51,081 --> 00:46:53,483 to the ball field, and who came? 954 00:46:53,483 --> 00:46:55,816 Did you have a guest, and what did they drive? 955 00:46:55,816 --> 00:46:59,219 That truck doesn´t exist in those records. 956 00:46:59,219 --> 00:47:02,122 I spoke with Chief White. I showed him the picture, 957 00:47:02,122 --> 00:47:04,595 asked him about it, and he said yes. 958 00:47:04,595 --> 00:47:07,898 That truck, uh, was known to be at the ball field 959 00:47:07,898 --> 00:47:09,359 June the 9th of ´95. 960 00:47:09,359 --> 00:47:11,932 And there is a potential 961 00:47:11,932 --> 00:47:14,364 that that could be the person we´re looking for in this case. 962 00:47:14,364 --> 00:47:16,907 A parent at the ball field where Morgan was last seen 963 00:47:16,907 --> 00:47:19,209 caught this red truck on home video. 964 00:47:19,209 --> 00:47:21,011 But after further investigation, 965 00:47:21,011 --> 00:47:23,243 police say this truck is a Mazda 966 00:47:23,243 --> 00:47:25,546 and it´s owned by a parent who was at the ball field 967 00:47:25,546 --> 00:47:28,278 where Morgan disappeared. 968 00:47:28,278 --> 00:47:29,950 Had you ever heard that? 969 00:47:29,950 --> 00:47:33,053 - I´m -- I mean, I don´t -- I don´t remember it, no. 970 00:47:33,053 --> 00:47:34,555 And I´m sure a policeman told them that. 971 00:47:34,555 --> 00:47:37,087 And it may have been somebody from a different agency. 972 00:47:37,087 --> 00:47:38,559 I may have knew about it, 973 00:47:38,559 --> 00:47:42,092 but I don´t remember ever hearing that to be a Mazda, 974 00:47:42,092 --> 00:47:44,394 and I haven´t ever read a report 975 00:47:44,394 --> 00:47:46,937 that tells me who owned that truck. 976 00:47:46,937 --> 00:47:50,641 Uh, so I would think that if we knew it was a parent 977 00:47:50,641 --> 00:47:53,504 at the ball field, we´d know what parent it was. 978 00:47:53,504 --> 00:47:56,607 But I´ve never seen that information, so... 979 00:48:04,915 --> 00:48:09,389 I started mapping some different circumstances 980 00:48:09,389 --> 00:48:11,291 that happened within the city 981 00:48:11,291 --> 00:48:13,924 on June the 9th relating to this truck. 982 00:48:13,924 --> 00:48:17,467 You know, we had knowledge of different pieces of this before. 983 00:48:17,467 --> 00:48:19,399 When you sit down, and you put that puzzle together, 984 00:48:19,399 --> 00:48:21,131 it´s like a jigsaw puzzle. 985 00:48:21,131 --> 00:48:22,933 And when you start putting those pieces together, 986 00:48:22,933 --> 00:48:24,174 you get a very clear picture. 987 00:48:24,174 --> 00:48:26,406 And I have a very clear picture today. 988 00:48:28,238 --> 00:48:32,382 Started pulling everything from June the 9th of ´95. 989 00:48:32,382 --> 00:48:36,186 I don´t believe that Morgan was the only circumstance 990 00:48:36,186 --> 00:48:39,189 that occurred with this person in Alma on June the 9th. 991 00:48:39,189 --> 00:48:42,022 I found statements that I had seen before 992 00:48:42,022 --> 00:48:43,453 at different times over the years 993 00:48:43,453 --> 00:48:46,056 and started pulling information from them 994 00:48:46,056 --> 00:48:48,258 and then actually started mapping 995 00:48:48,258 --> 00:48:50,631 and putting that information together. 996 00:48:50,631 --> 00:48:54,104 And it painted a very interesting picture 997 00:48:54,104 --> 00:48:55,435 of June the 9th of ´95. 998 00:48:55,435 --> 00:48:58,569 And according to witness statements, 999 00:48:58,569 --> 00:49:00,671 Morgan Nick and the kids with her 1000 00:49:00,671 --> 00:49:03,944 were not the only contact with this individual that night. 1001 00:49:03,944 --> 00:49:07,618 The first location is a teenage white female. 1002 00:49:07,618 --> 00:49:12,122 She has a truck drive past her, pull over in front of her, 1003 00:49:12,122 --> 00:49:14,224 and back up to her. 1004 00:49:14,224 --> 00:49:17,387 And the passenger window´s partially down. 1005 00:49:17,387 --> 00:49:22,092 And the first thing that this individual says to her is, 1006 00:49:22,092 --> 00:49:24,034 "Would you like a ride to downtown Alma?" 1007 00:49:24,034 --> 00:49:25,736 So, obviously, downtown Alma 1008 00:49:25,736 --> 00:49:28,238 is was where Morgan was abducted from. 1009 00:49:28,238 --> 00:49:32,102 So this female tells him that she doesn´t want to ride. 1010 00:49:32,102 --> 00:49:36,146 The subject doesn´t leave, and she is forced -- 1011 00:49:36,146 --> 00:49:37,648 Uh, she´s scared at this point, 1012 00:49:37,648 --> 00:49:40,250 and she is forced to walk off from him. 1013 00:49:40,250 --> 00:49:44,254 And so she has to walk off, and he continues to sit there 1014 00:49:44,254 --> 00:49:46,286 and then finally drives off. 1015 00:49:46,286 --> 00:49:49,019 The strongest witness. Hands down, no questions asked, 1016 00:49:49,019 --> 00:49:52,392 that´s probably the strongest witness in our case. 1017 00:49:52,392 --> 00:49:53,724 She provided a lot of information, 1018 00:49:53,724 --> 00:49:55,666 filled in a lot of blanks. 1019 00:49:55,666 --> 00:49:57,598 Location number two, 1020 00:49:57,598 --> 00:50:00,470 the information on it is from a call-in, and it´s kind of vague 1021 00:50:00,470 --> 00:50:02,332 because I haven´t found a follow-up on it. 1022 00:50:02,332 --> 00:50:05,506 Two girls, 5 and 6 years old, on the north end of our city, 1023 00:50:05,506 --> 00:50:07,377 they come running from the front yard 1024 00:50:07,377 --> 00:50:09,680 out next to the street, screaming and crying. 1025 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,182 Mom looks out, and Mom sees a red truck 1026 00:50:12,182 --> 00:50:14,214 with a white camper shell drive off. 1027 00:50:18,018 --> 00:50:23,423 Location number three is going to be in downtown Alma, 1028 00:50:23,423 --> 00:50:25,225 and it´s a couple of teenage boys. 1029 00:50:25,225 --> 00:50:29,399 They´re walking from the older baseball field 1030 00:50:29,399 --> 00:50:31,502 on the south side of West Main Street. 1031 00:50:31,502 --> 00:50:35,265 And a red pickup truck with a white camper shell, 1032 00:50:35,265 --> 00:50:37,608 uh, a male subject in it, stops 1033 00:50:37,608 --> 00:50:41,712 and gets onto them for being in the road. 1034 00:50:41,712 --> 00:50:43,574 One of those witnesses 1035 00:50:43,574 --> 00:50:47,047 watches the truck turn onto Walnut Street. 1036 00:50:47,047 --> 00:50:50,480 And, so, Walnut runs down the side of the ballpark, 1037 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:51,752 and it actually is the street 1038 00:50:51,752 --> 00:50:53,353 that goes into the upper parking lot 1039 00:50:53,353 --> 00:50:57,127 where Morgan was abducted from. 1040 00:50:57,127 --> 00:50:59,429 This is number four. So right there, 1041 00:50:59,429 --> 00:51:02,192 I have a couple of 10-year-old boys 1042 00:51:02,192 --> 00:51:04,635 that were playing and riding bikes, 1043 00:51:04,635 --> 00:51:07,467 and they´re in the street. And I have a subject 1044 00:51:07,467 --> 00:51:09,339 in a red truck with a white camper 1045 00:51:09,339 --> 00:51:12,472 that stops and yells at them to get out of the road, as well. 1046 00:51:12,472 --> 00:51:15,405 Number five, I would call definitely the parking lot 1047 00:51:15,405 --> 00:51:16,747 where the abduction occurred. 1048 00:51:16,747 --> 00:51:19,109 Location number six, with the same thing, 1049 00:51:19,109 --> 00:51:20,651 we´re looking at a timeline. 1050 00:51:20,651 --> 00:51:23,554 There is, uh, the red truck in question 1051 00:51:23,554 --> 00:51:25,115 with the white camper shell 1052 00:51:25,115 --> 00:51:27,558 that is photographed sitting on the street. 1053 00:51:27,558 --> 00:51:30,721 And we know the time of that ballgame, 5:30 to 7:00 p.m. 1054 00:51:30,721 --> 00:51:33,493 that night, is when this truck was photographed. 1055 00:51:33,493 --> 00:51:35,365 Every thing within that timeframe 1056 00:51:35,365 --> 00:51:38,198 is a very short period of time, and it all comes into play. 1057 00:51:38,198 --> 00:51:41,632 So basically what it did for me on that day is it led a track 1058 00:51:41,632 --> 00:51:44,474 right to downtown, right to the abduction. 1059 00:51:48,639 --> 00:51:53,584 So location number seven is actually, um -- 1060 00:51:53,584 --> 00:51:55,546 We´re not going to divulge that location at the time, 1061 00:51:55,546 --> 00:51:57,487 because we´re doing some work there. 1062 00:51:57,487 --> 00:52:00,851 But within a 10-minute period of her abduction, 1063 00:52:00,851 --> 00:52:05,896 we have other witnesses that were teenagers. 1064 00:52:05,896 --> 00:52:08,799 At this specific location, it was close to the river. 1065 00:52:08,799 --> 00:52:11,331 They were doing an activity together that evening. 1066 00:52:11,331 --> 00:52:12,833 And while they were doing that activity, 1067 00:52:12,833 --> 00:52:14,765 they observed this vehicle come in. 1068 00:52:14,765 --> 00:52:16,637 And so they were able to give details, 1069 00:52:16,637 --> 00:52:21,271 including time details, uh, and vehicle details. 1070 00:52:21,271 --> 00:52:23,744 One of them went as far as to say 1071 00:52:23,744 --> 00:52:26,547 that they felt like they observed 1072 00:52:26,547 --> 00:52:29,680 the adult male driving the truck 1073 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,482 potentially holding a child down in the front seat of the truck. 1074 00:52:32,482 --> 00:52:36,757 And after they learn of Morgan, they come forward 1075 00:52:36,757 --> 00:52:40,260 and pass the information on to the Alma police department 1076 00:52:40,260 --> 00:52:42,432 that, "We were at this particular location. 1077 00:52:42,432 --> 00:52:44,464 This is what we observed." 1078 00:52:44,464 --> 00:52:47,768 Uh, and then investigators made contact with them, 1079 00:52:47,768 --> 00:52:50,370 got detailed witness statements from them. 1080 00:52:50,370 --> 00:52:52,673 I know from one of the witness statements, uh, 1081 00:52:52,673 --> 00:52:56,677 they said that the officers took them out the next day. 1082 00:52:56,677 --> 00:52:58,448 There´s question on exactly which day that was. 1083 00:52:58,448 --> 00:53:00,180 But the officer took them out the next day. 1084 00:53:00,180 --> 00:53:01,712 They were unable to go back to this location 1085 00:53:01,712 --> 00:53:03,554 because of the flooding. 1086 00:53:07,958 --> 00:53:09,820 In this area, there´s a lot of farmland 1087 00:53:09,820 --> 00:53:11,722 that runs along the river. 1088 00:53:11,722 --> 00:53:14,224 Those areas are very much prone to flood. 1089 00:53:14,224 --> 00:53:16,466 So, take Van Buren, for instance. 1090 00:53:16,466 --> 00:53:17,728 I believe one of the things I read, 1091 00:53:17,728 --> 00:53:20,200 the river is like an 18 feet of Van Buren. 1092 00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:24,605 It flows 10,000 to 15,000 cubic feet per second. 1093 00:53:24,605 --> 00:53:27,578 And we were looking at flood stages, I believe, 1094 00:53:27,578 --> 00:53:29,740 of 32 feet at the time 1095 00:53:29,740 --> 00:53:32,212 where a couple days after her abduction, 1096 00:53:32,212 --> 00:53:36,517 they recorded that as about 226,000 cubic feet per second 1097 00:53:36,517 --> 00:53:38,218 that river is flowing. 1098 00:53:38,218 --> 00:53:40,991 So when that river comes up, and the, you know, 1099 00:53:40,991 --> 00:53:45,756 there´s articles at the time from the farmers, where fields 1100 00:53:45,756 --> 00:53:49,329 that are a ways away from the river are 4 feet underwater. 1101 00:53:49,329 --> 00:53:53,604 So naturally, for us looking at this 24 years later, 1102 00:53:53,604 --> 00:53:55,906 we have to look at this in the direction of, okay, 1103 00:53:55,906 --> 00:53:58,268 if we believe in the process that we´re going, 1104 00:53:58,268 --> 00:54:00,010 we believe where we are, 1105 00:54:00,010 --> 00:54:02,743 uh, we´re looking at three different things. 1106 00:54:02,743 --> 00:54:05,245 There is a potential -- You look at the potential 1107 00:54:05,245 --> 00:54:07,447 that Morgan left that location, 1108 00:54:07,447 --> 00:54:08,779 and then you have to look at the potential 1109 00:54:08,779 --> 00:54:10,781 that Morgan did not leave that location. 1110 00:54:10,781 --> 00:54:15,686 I´m very comfortable that, from location number one 1111 00:54:15,686 --> 00:54:18,258 all the way to location number seven, 1112 00:54:18,258 --> 00:54:19,790 I´m looking at the same truck. 1113 00:54:19,790 --> 00:54:22,663 I´m also very confident I´m looking at the same subject. 1114 00:54:22,663 --> 00:54:24,665 It is a new direction for the case. 1115 00:54:24,665 --> 00:54:27,397 110% it is a new direction for the case. 1116 00:54:27,397 --> 00:54:29,039 So why is it significant today? 1117 00:54:29,039 --> 00:54:31,602 It´s significant today because the majority of the people 1118 00:54:31,602 --> 00:54:33,373 don´t realize that truck was shown a couple of times 1119 00:54:33,373 --> 00:54:37,007 in the beginning of this case. And while it was shown, 1120 00:54:37,007 --> 00:54:39,980 it was not shown with an emphasis of, 1121 00:54:39,980 --> 00:54:43,814 "We need to find this truck, and we need to find this person." 1122 00:54:43,814 --> 00:54:47,287 And that is the emphasis today. And that is -- that is something 1123 00:54:47,287 --> 00:54:49,419 that we greatly need the public´s help with. 1124 00:54:49,419 --> 00:54:52,793 We´re not just asking for people to send us every red truck 1125 00:54:52,793 --> 00:54:55,295 with a white camper that they know about. 1126 00:54:55,295 --> 00:54:58,028 We´re looking specifically for this truck. 1127 00:54:58,028 --> 00:55:01,371 And I want to say this so y´all understand something. 1128 00:55:01,371 --> 00:55:03,534 The work that we´re doing today 1129 00:55:03,534 --> 00:55:08,008 is off the backs of all those people 25 years ago 1130 00:55:08,008 --> 00:55:09,980 that were running this to ground at that time. 1131 00:55:09,980 --> 00:55:11,542 If they didn´t do their job, we couldn´t do 1132 00:55:11,542 --> 00:55:13,644 what we´re doing today. 1133 00:55:13,644 --> 00:55:16,446 They -- They ran vehicles. 1134 00:55:16,446 --> 00:55:19,850 They put -- The state police put troopers in every campground 1135 00:55:19,850 --> 00:55:22,953 in the state of Arkansas for days looking for that truck 1136 00:55:22,953 --> 00:55:26,056 and pulling every record for the red truck. 1137 00:55:26,056 --> 00:55:29,700 So it´s not like there has not been a tremendous amount of work 1138 00:55:29,700 --> 00:55:33,934 going to the red truck, because the witnesses said red truck. 1139 00:55:33,934 --> 00:55:38,509 There´s not been a focus on this red truck. 1140 00:55:39,810 --> 00:55:42,673 We love her, and we miss her. 1141 00:55:42,673 --> 00:55:47,347 Whoever´s got her, just bring her back to us, 1142 00:55:47,347 --> 00:55:48,679 where she belongs. 1143 00:55:48,679 --> 00:55:50,050 That was two weeks ago. 1144 00:55:50,050 --> 00:55:51,922 Today, a more hopeful Colleen Nick 1145 00:55:51,922 --> 00:55:54,454 still awaits the return of her daughter. 1146 00:55:54,454 --> 00:55:57,127 She and Morgan´s father say what sees them through 1147 00:55:57,127 --> 00:56:00,691 is the support of friends and strangers. 1148 00:56:00,691 --> 00:56:03,594 - They don´t have to care. It doesn´t affect their lives. 1149 00:56:03,594 --> 00:56:04,965 You know, we have a lot of friends around here 1150 00:56:04,965 --> 00:56:07,497 who know us. And it affects you personally. 1151 00:56:07,497 --> 00:56:09,800 But these are people who just, they don´t know us at all. 1152 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,602 You know, some periods during the day, 1153 00:56:11,602 --> 00:56:14,905 you´re more hopeful that she´ll turn up any minute. 1154 00:56:14,905 --> 00:56:20,450 And, uh, some periods of the day, it´s hard to stay hopeful. 1155 00:56:20,450 --> 00:56:23,914 But you just got to keep -- keep staying hopeful. 1156 00:56:23,914 --> 00:56:26,116 That´s the only way to keep going. 1157 00:56:27,988 --> 00:56:29,620 We were stationed in Europe, 1158 00:56:29,620 --> 00:56:31,992 and Morgan was born there. 1159 00:56:31,992 --> 00:56:35,125 And the night that we went into labor, 1160 00:56:35,125 --> 00:56:37,768 the military hospital wouldn´t let us in. 1161 00:56:37,768 --> 00:56:39,500 They had too many newborn babies, 1162 00:56:39,500 --> 00:56:42,472 and so they literally sent us away at the door, 1163 00:56:42,472 --> 00:56:45,576 and they sent us to a Crockett House, a city hospital. 1164 00:56:45,576 --> 00:56:50,010 And when we got there, 1165 00:56:50,010 --> 00:56:51,912 the entire four hours that we were there, 1166 00:56:51,912 --> 00:56:54,484 our nurse only spoke one word of English. 1167 00:56:54,484 --> 00:56:58,018 The only thing that she could say was push. 1168 00:56:58,018 --> 00:57:01,021 And so for four hours, that´s really all we heard. 1169 00:57:01,021 --> 00:57:04,855 Um, and because of the language barrier, 1170 00:57:04,855 --> 00:57:06,627 there were just some miscommunications. 1171 00:57:06,627 --> 00:57:09,560 And so finally, the doctor arrived, 1172 00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,132 um, and within 10 minutes, Morgan was born. 1173 00:57:12,132 --> 00:57:14,064 And, you know, I remember Morgan being born, 1174 00:57:14,064 --> 00:57:19,910 and the doctor, um, holding her and saying, "It´s a girl." 1175 00:57:19,910 --> 00:57:23,173 And we just kind of gasped, and her -- her dad said, 1176 00:57:23,173 --> 00:57:26,216 "It´s a girl?" ´cause we thought we were having a boy. 1177 00:57:26,216 --> 00:57:29,079 And so, um, 1178 00:57:29,079 --> 00:57:32,082 you know, they handed her to me. 1179 00:57:32,082 --> 00:57:34,224 And that was -- 1180 00:57:37,628 --> 00:57:40,090 That was, um, 1181 00:57:40,090 --> 00:57:43,894 when I knew that I would always fight for her, 1182 00:57:43,894 --> 00:57:46,567 you know, that I would do everything that I could. 1183 00:57:46,567 --> 00:57:48,969 Um, people sometimes ask me now, you know, 1184 00:57:48,969 --> 00:57:51,742 how can I still do this, fight for her, 1185 00:57:51,742 --> 00:57:53,504 but how can I not? 1186 00:57:53,504 --> 00:57:56,547 Um, I don´t get up every day and make that decision. 1187 00:57:56,547 --> 00:57:59,950 I literally made that decision the day that she was born, 1188 00:57:59,950 --> 00:58:01,211 the day that I held her in my arms, 1189 00:58:01,211 --> 00:58:04,555 that I would always fight for her. 1190 00:58:08,719 --> 00:58:10,791 I could not have held it together 1191 00:58:10,791 --> 00:58:13,794 the way that Colleen has held it together 1192 00:58:13,794 --> 00:58:16,196 if that was one of my kids. 1193 00:58:16,196 --> 00:58:18,228 And it gives you that drive, 1194 00:58:18,228 --> 00:58:21,572 and it gives you that personal connection that, you know, 1195 00:58:21,572 --> 00:58:25,536 we need to bring this baby home. It is way beyond time. 1196 00:58:25,536 --> 00:58:28,979 My level of confidence in the case is high, very high. 1197 00:58:28,979 --> 00:58:31,011 And my level of confidence of -- of where we are, 1198 00:58:31,011 --> 00:58:32,883 what we´re looking at right now, 1199 00:58:32,883 --> 00:58:36,146 and the direction that we´re headed is -- is extremely high. 1200 00:58:38,088 --> 00:58:40,020 Alright. 1201 00:58:40,020 --> 00:58:41,722 Alright. 98056

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