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There is a story in the Bible
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about God providing Manna from heaven.
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Food to sustain the Israelites,
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while they're
wandering in the wilderness.
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But it never said
specifically what it was.
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What was this Manna from heaven?
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When I asked that question
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I had no idea how much
my life was about to change.
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The first miracle that
Jesus was reported to have done
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was turning water
into wine at a wedding.
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The story goes
that they ran out of wine
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and Jesus put a
portion of the Manna
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into the water that they boiled as tea.
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He told the waiters to pass it out as wine.
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So I call up Deepak and
I said Deepak I gotta talk to you,
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I found some stuff in the
Bible that is not making any sense.
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I think I found some psychedelics in there,
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I think there is meditation..
like.. wha ...what do you think.
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He's quiet on the phone, and I was like
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"Deepak are you there?", and he's like
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"Yeah he said uh where'd you
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where'd you find this exactly?"
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like "send me what you're talking to me about."
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What do you want to do Deepak,
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what should we do about this?
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You want to write something up?
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And Deepak was like, "This is too important".
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He's like "Why don't
we have a conversation about this?"
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Could part of the religious experience
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have to do with plant sacraments?
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In Deepak's tradition the mystery plant,
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Soma was used to bring
people to communion with God.
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Could have been that
the hymns of the Rigveda
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were actually sung to
this plant which had no seeds,
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that had no flowers, that was really mushrooms.
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There's a scene in the movie Noah,
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starring Russell Crowe
where he has a dream
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that he is underwater
with animals floating past,
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he wakes up knowing that
God wants him to do something,
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but he doesn't know what.
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He goes and sits with the wise man in the cave
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played by Anthony Hopkins
who gives him some psychedelic tea.
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He drinks it and has a detailed
vision of exactly what God wants him to do.
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First of all, that's a possibility.
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Yup.
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Secondly, why does our
brain have receptors to these things.
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Well because we are part of the same nature.
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You know we are not separate from nature.
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Science is based
on a subject-object split
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on the separation that is artificial,
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me and the universe when in fact
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I am also part of the universe.
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So the same electrical storms
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that create thunder and lightning in the sky
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creates synaptic firings
in my brain, which creates thought.
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We are part of a wholeness.
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And what the religious experience
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is to experience that wholeness.
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What is enlightenment
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of being one with the source.
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So whilst they give people what
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I wouldn't even call
altered state of consciousness,
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I wouldn't call then hallucinations.
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They help people break
out of the everyday hallucination
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of separation and to the reality of truth
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and whether they did it through
wine or manna or soma who cares.
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It doesn't make any sense.
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How can these ancient plants that
connect you to God be somehow taken out.
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Could these plants be the ancient wisdom
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that we need for our modern problems?
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What we call today, everyday
reality which we take for normal,
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okay, there is war there's
terrorism, there's global warming,
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there's social injustice.
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50% of the world lives on less than $2 a day.
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The environment is totally
screwed up and we say this is normal.
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Its psychotic.
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Right? And its psychotic
because we have created it.
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What do you think it would take to break
through that boundary at this point?
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- I mean, here we are in this 21st century.
- Let's have a party.
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Let's have a party.
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We'll bring everybody down
to Peru and enlighten them.
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And put some in the pot and let's drink it.
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I'm in
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I'm in.
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Did Deepak Chopra just tell
me to go down to Peru
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and drink Ayahuasca tea, one of the most
powerful psychedelics known to man?
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Still dazed by what Deepak had recommended,
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I bumped into our friend Gerry
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who had generously loaned
us his beach house for the interview.
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I was curious what he thought
about what Deepak said.
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I didn't realize at the time
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but Gerry's world
was spinning out of control.
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Despite having sold his
company for almost 100 million dollars,
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Gerry was abusing drugs,
drinking a lot of alcohol,
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his family was in shambles
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and he was basically
trying to kill himself slowly.
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More than I realized Deepak's
words were really sinking in.
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At this point you're probably
wondering who this Zappy guy is.
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Lemme tell you a little bit about myself.
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I'd done everything society told me to do:
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go to school, get a job,
make a bunch of money,
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fall in love, start a family.
I was living the American dream.
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I bought beer.com for $80,000.
A few months later I sold it for $7 Million dollars.
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Here I am starring in my own super bowl ad.
Life was becoming very surreal.
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Even though I had it all,
my conversation with Deepak
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made it clear that there were
other experiences that I needed to have.
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The value that I place on the
experience is more important to me.
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So I always felt like I'd rather have
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a passport full of stamps
than a house of a certain type.
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It occurred to me that like most people
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I'd been searching for
happiness outside of myself.
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And I was having the realization that
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I might never be truly happy unless
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I went inside my own
mind to look for some answers.
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Albert Einstein famously said,
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"you can't fix a problem
with the same consciousness"
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or thinking that got you into this situation.
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What this meant to me was that if
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I wanted to solve a
problem in my life,
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or if we as a society
wanted to solve big problems
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we have like violence,
eco destruction, addiction, depression.
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We needed to change
our collective consciousness.
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Could society use some of these
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ancient techniques for its modern problems?
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I was inspired by the
people who came before me,
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that seemingly had it all,
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but chose to take the
risk of going inside their own minds.
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These people were what
I would call psychonauts: sailors of the mind.
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And I saw that these people were going
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inside their minds
and exploring inside their minds
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as part of what they wound up doing
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and I thought wow I have to do that.
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I figured before I got too
extreme and sat with a shaman,
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I should go out and talk to some of
Deepak's friends about our so called reality.
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If you only identify with
the realm of 3 dimensions...
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if you only identify with the realm of the body,
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if you only identify
with the mortal circumstance
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and the mortal experience then to that extent
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you are at the effect of those circumstances.
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Faith is standing on the conviction,
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standing on the knowledge on the conviction.
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There is something way bigger going on here.
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What we see is only a
small portion of the total reality.
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See... we have three states making,
dreaming and sleeping.
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But beyond that there
is a state that it's neither
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of the three, but there is a restful
alertness that dances deep within.
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There is nowhere, where we escape from
being energy, so we're always energy.
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What we see as it looks physical material
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is actually the reflection
of light photons of light
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that hit our energy and bounce back
so we're reflecting light but...
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We're reflecting it as a force field,
a tornado of energy.
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If we can stand within the unreal world,
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the ultimate unreal that
appears real that seems limited
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by the laws of time
and space and yet have faith
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in the realm beyond that literally
invokes that realm into being.
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It seemed like what everyone
was saying is reality is just a concept.
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I needed to have the direct
experience of going inside.
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Could ancient wisdom have
included plants and meditation.
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I was excited to learn that a lot of celebrities,
people like Jerry Seinfeld, Martin Scorsese
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were doing this meditation for a long time
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and recently people like Oprah
Winfrey and Dr. Oz and Katy Perry
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had taken up the meditation and
it seemed to be making them even more creative.
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I wanted to see if some of this ancient wisdom
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could help me to tap into my creativity.
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In the 1960's a funny little man
named Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
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came out of the Himalayas to the United States
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and he wound up teaching
his transcendental meditation technique
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to the Beatles and the rest is history.
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Today there are more
than 7 million people worldwide
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doing transcendental meditation.
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What I like about a T-M technique
is that there is no dogma attached to it.
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It's really just a simple technique
of silently repeating a mantra to yourself
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which causes you to
transcend into your quieted mind
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to subtler and subtler states
of consciousness until a point
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that you reach a place
called universal consciousness.
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An endless field of energy
that connects all of us where all knowledge
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is contained and where
everything is manifested from.
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When the Maharishi passed away in
2007, he put John Hagelin in charge.
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As a quantum physicist and a meditator,
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he had successfully used quantum theory to support
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Maharishi's model of creative
intelligence being at the center of all creation.
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Waking conscious is all
about being aware of something...
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this... that... this concept... that person.
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Transcending is leaving all that behind,
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to isolate an experience the self, itself.
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It's blissful. It's not the end of the story,
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10, 20, minutes of that is enough.
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The idea is to come back into activity
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and increasingly integrate
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and stabilize the experience of inner reality,
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inner silence along without a reality.
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And that's when life really
gets to be interesting and fun.
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The mind has two aspects to it,
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it's the brain, which is
very concrete you can measure
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it and you can touch it but it's interacting
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with this field of consciousness.
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And when they come together
it's our individual self,
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our individual personality.
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And that's what most people think they are.
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I'm 5'11, I have this education,
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I'm this part in society
I have this amount of money
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but it's not fundamentally who you are.
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And to know that you need
to have the experience of that.
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And that's where meditation
experience comes in.
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It was found that square foot of one percent
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in some cities here and there...
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and there and it does create
positivity in the atmosphere,
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in the tendencies of the people.
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What excited me about this was that
if we wanted to change global consciousness
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we only needed a
critical mass of people tapped in.
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What I found in the bible verses
that said "Be still and know that I'm God",
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the kingdom of heaven is within."
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That's what the meditators are saying.
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It's so obvious, it's right there.
The bible is saying... meditate!
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These day's religious affiliation is shrinking.
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I needed to go speak
to some of the religious leaders
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and top scholars of our
time about whether meditation
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was once part of religion.
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When it comes to religious leaders
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there's no one more
high profile than Joel Osteen.
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I wanted to ask Joel what
he thought the manna from heaven was.
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It kind of was always
talked about like it was a bread,
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you know like a mushroom
or something that's what I heard.
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That's what I heard. Yeah.
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I'd like, I'd like it if it was mushrooms.
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Sustain them and...
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Wow,
I did not expect that.
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Bible descriptions from Moses
and Jesus sound more like mushrooms than bread.
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In fact, every other
miracle that Jesus has reported
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to have done was after
they drank mushroom tea.
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St Mark's Basilica in Venice Italy...
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here's all the disciples, here's Jesus,
and giant mushrooms behind him.
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"Oh very cool, yeah."
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So I got Jesus over here with
these giant mushrooms behind him.
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"Let me see."
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Here's Jesus with these
giant mushrooms behind him.
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I wanted to talk to some people
who had been there, done that.
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I've probably have had as
much psychedelics as anyone alive.
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When you fall away for a minute,
something happens.
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That's actually the beginning
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and now you have to relearn
the world just like you were a baby.
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What I found uh makes Ayahuasca
very special, number one
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is it's the only
mind altering substance
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that needs more than one substance.
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And the other fact that's interesting
is that both these substances the MAO,
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which is Hamelin or
Tetra HeLa Hamelo, or the DMT.
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Both of these
substances are produced
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in every mammalian nervous system.
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So they are substances
that our body produces.
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Filmmaker Foster Gamble's
documentary Thrive
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shattered many of the myths that
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we've been presented
by regular society
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that keep us slaves
to our so called reality.
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So it seems to be
a natural inclination to alter
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our consciousness somewhat
and I think one of the reasons for that
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is when we alter our consciousness
we can see our daily consciousness
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in a new way and
it shifts and tends to raise
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and expand our
daily consciousness.
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And to me that's the point
and if we can use substances
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whether it's 'broccoli or ayahuasca
or uh you know C-sharp major.'
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Ha, to give us a glimpse of what's possible for
human beings and specifically what's next for me.
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What am I ready for?
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When my consciousness
separated from my body
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it changed the paradigm entirely.
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I realized ah-ha
there's something more
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than this meat
vehicle that we have
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and that one realization
set me off writing all night furiously,
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haha, until the dawn and it
just re-evaluated my whole philosophy
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and from that point on I've been
on a journey of experiential spirituality,
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finding the answers myself
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and the plants have been
the greatest teachers in that quest.
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Many times there is a
huge benefit with one experience
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because it gets to the
core of what's been happening,
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so it's almost like you know
10 years of therapy in 7 hours.
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Kundalini Yoga Icon
Gurmukh teaches many celebrities
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how to journey inside
using the Kundalini technique.
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She had her own experience
with mind altering energies.
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I do not regret anything I've ever done.
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You know people say "I did drugs".
I said "So what? It got you here. Forget it!"
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I've met other people
that I wished they had
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because I feel they
can't go through the barrier.
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They can't go into that sixth dimension.
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However you want to look at it,
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it's going to be the unknown.
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And you have a choice: fear or faith.
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You know faith that
you're going to come out alright,
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that the lessons
are going to be valuable
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and that the medicine will guide you
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or fear. Fear that
something else is going to happen.
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It's going to be the unknown
either way, so might as well choose faith.
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There are times in life,
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where through different means
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and God works in mysterious ways.
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We're shown the mountain top,
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it's like through grace.
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It's like the hand of God lifts us up,
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and just shows us the mountain.
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I owe, um, a definite debt of gratitude
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to um my experience with various substances.
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I can't endorse it,
unless you're at a certain space
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in a certain environment with certain true healers
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because it can run havoc just like LSD did.
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They are a powerful,
transformational tools
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that have to be respected
and if you approach them
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with enough humility and respect
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I tend to believe
you'll be fine with them.
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People are afraid
that when they go down
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there and do these medicines they're going to lose
the things that they love most about themselves
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and that's just this common fear.
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You know, you get someone
who loves their career,
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"What if I go down and it tells me
I want to be a yoga instructor?"
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I'm like it's not
going to do that man
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and if it does you're going
to be even happier about the fact that it did.
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There's an opportunity
to use psychotropic drugs,
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which will open up that mind
and show you my god who you really are.
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I am fascinated by it.
Uh, uh, I'm interested in it.
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I believe it will have
real utility somewhere.
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I just, it's too soon for me,
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as somebody that's
uh trained a certain way.
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Do no harm, help, you know, really,
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really be clear
about what you're doing.
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We're not clear yet.
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Whatever it takes
whether you the drugs or wether you do
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the meditation exercises
whatever way
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I don't really care.
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There's no doubt in my mind
that he first indication
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of formal use of hallucinogen
will be at the end of life.
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Because it's clear what I am reading,
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and seeing in the research is that it improves
our ability to be connected with something
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and feel ok about the dying process.
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And God knows we need help
with that in this country.
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The traditional psychological model, the
traditional medical model, it usually takes years,
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and years, and years of therapy,
and years of intervention,
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in working with a
team of experts to get even
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just a little progress
in someone's life.
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What I've seen,
and the analogy
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I give is it's 10-20 years
of psychotherapy often
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in one to two plant medicine sessions.
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There's a relation to plant medicine
when it is entered through the door
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of the traditions
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that brings more
to a sacred recognition,
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of their life,
their path
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I think the
word drug is really
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has a lot of negative connotations.
I can't think of, you know, maybe...
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If some drug actually
cures someone, it's medicine.
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See I haven't heard
people going off the rails,
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I've seen people go off the rails.
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Before I took the final leap,
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I needed to hear it
from a psychedelic badass.
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That person is Ram Dass.
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His real name was Richard Alpert
born to an affluent New England family.
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He attended Harvard
and after graduation began
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as a researcher at the University.
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It was the 1960's
and LSD had just been discovered.
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The government
was studying its effect
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on individuals
and enemy combatants.
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While a researcher at Harvard, Alpert
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and professor Timothy Leary
started to run experiments
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on students with
psilocybin mushrooms
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and LSD both of
which were legal at the time.
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The results were
nothing short of miraculous.
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Users were reporting that
they were having life changing experiences,
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including a study that showed that 60% of alcoholics
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that were given one
dose of psilocybin mushrooms
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in the right set and setting
were never alcoholics again.
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How could everybody not know
about this? Discouraged with the west,
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he headed to India.
His guru named him Ram Dass.
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And when he came back to
the United States and published his book,
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"Be Here Now" he was followed
around by massive groups of young people.
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If anybody has the right intent
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to wanted to go
to their own spiritual uhh,
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insides, the psychedelics
are wonderful for them. Wonderful.
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Would you recommend
that somebody looking...
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Yes, Yes.
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So seekers should
go find a shaman...
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Sure.
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- Go down and...
- Sure, sure.
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That was it, I was going
to gather up a group of friends
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who wanted to take the risk and go
as deep into our minds as humanly possible.
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Things are just,
seem to just be falling in place.
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You know, uh,
feels like it's guided,
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feels like it's meant to be.
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So for me
I'm just letting it go,
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you know I just assume every miracle
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that is going to
happen is about to happen
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and I should just kind of
enjoy it and uh let it happen.
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I have chosen to work with the mesa,
which is a medicine bundle,
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meditations,
rituals, um counseling
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and working with ancestral medicines
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such as Watchuma or San Pedro.
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Which are ancestral medicines
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that have been used for over 5000 years
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in the Andes of Peru
by pre-Incan cultures
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who were masters of accessing
dimensions of consciousness
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that are so deep that
we often don't access.
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You know, I feel like it doesn't matter
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where in the world you go, it's like,
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you'll always find you know, your kind.
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And um when it comes to spirituality.
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I respect anything that or anyone
who kind of walks respecting the planet,
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loving nature and opening their heart to...
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you know the universe and love itself.
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As long as that's the main
priority behind your religion or you
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you know your ceremonial
spiritual belief then you know.
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I'm down with you.
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I've got a few intents,
some are very personal,
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which I'm going to try and
bring back to my family and loved ones.
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Um and try and take some of that knowledge
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or the glimpse of the
other dimensions that are out there,
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which I've been trying to do
kind of in artificial ways.
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I mean sometimes with
my artwork and my creativity
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but in other ways
with less natural things
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and sometimes
that's an anesthetic of pain
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or your day-to-day
life that gets you down.
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But, um yeah this is something
that's been calling me for a while
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to come and do this, but it
hasn't been the right moment in my life
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and so it all seemed
to just fall into place naturally.
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I'm here to have sorta like a rebirth.
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Um to you know tap into
a place that I guess I've never gone.
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I don't know where that is, I don't know
what that is, but hopefully it's a good thing
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and I'll be able to get through it.
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When you drink the medicine,
50% of the medicine's responsibility
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is to do all the healing, all the cleansing,
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all the awakening,
all the clearing,
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all the harmonizing that it needs
to do but the other 50% of taking it further,
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taking it deeper is always yours.
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Part of my, my uh work in this is
to make the most gentle transition possible.
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From being very sleepy
to being fully awake. Haha.
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Really looking
forward to uh tapping
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into some of those guys stuff upstairs.
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The san pedro trip was, was gnarly.
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Um.. it was really insane because Fredy Puma,
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you know the shaman that introduced us
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to the catalyst
to the spiritual journey um
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you know which was the San Pedro, the drink.
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He uh, so in tune that guy
and I recall you know being at the...
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at the top of the mountain
you know at this plateau
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where we all you know we're
just so tired from this massive,
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you know high altitude trek
and were finally you know,
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getting some air and you're,
you're looking off at these amazing clouds
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that are flying right at you
and you're at the precipice of this mountain top
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and you know you see
hundreds of feet below you and
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I got this enormous
sorrow that I can't...
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I was just overwhelmed
with and this sorrow
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that consumed me was something
that I've been carrying for many years.
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Kind of like a little
rebellious anger or like
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"why am I here?"
like you know like dad you know
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I didn't knock on your balls
to come out into this you know universe
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kind of anger
that I've been holding
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since I was a teenager,
you know what I mean.
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Why you stay in the chaos?
Why suffer? Why struggle?
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When you can liberate all of that
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and be of higher service,
while being gentle on yourself.
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I know that you need
your ups and downs
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so you can be human
and enjoy life,
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um and transition cause
it's part of the beauty of existence
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is to be sad and enjoy happiness
you need to know both sides
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but this overwhelming
sadness wasn't mine.
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It didn't belong to me.
Ever since I was a little kid,
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didn't belong to me.
It's not mine.
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I'm a passenger,
like Iggy Pop says you know what I mean.
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I'm here to ride this,
you know, in a respectful way,
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respect everything that I come across and you know,
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walk my path with love and
you know say goodbye after my journey's done.
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And he came out and he just...
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I felt this warm energy behind me
and there he was while
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I was on the rock overlooking the, the,
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the clouds that are flying towards me.
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I was just crying you know,
and he touched my shoulder
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and he said it's not yours, let it go.
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1, 2, 3 and go.
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If my trip ended today, I've had,
you know 20 years of heavy pain
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lifted off of my shoulders
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and I'd be a happy camper
without doing the Ayahuasca.
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So, I'm a feeling really really
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really really light on my feet, happy, appreciative,
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and receptive. Very feminine,
you know ha ha.
479
00:30:54,822 --> 00:30:56,487
Im such a tomboy,
it's kinda about time
480
00:30:56,488 --> 00:30:57,733
I step into my femininity.
481
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,243
My full intent coming down here,
482
00:31:00,244 --> 00:31:05,532
my macro intent was to
try to share with everybody
483
00:31:05,533 --> 00:31:09,110
in the world for
that matter, um, the fact
484
00:31:09,111 --> 00:31:12,111
that there's different
ways to see reality.
485
00:31:12,377 --> 00:31:15,621
And that we, sort of
in this moment of chaos
486
00:31:15,622 --> 00:31:18,266
need to take a step back everybody
487
00:31:18,577 --> 00:31:21,844
and you know just try
to see things a little differently.
488
00:31:21,955 --> 00:31:25,800
The only way that you're supposed
to fulfill your role is by being yourself.
489
00:31:26,177 --> 00:31:29,688
That is the heightened you.
490
00:31:30,444 --> 00:31:33,844
You attract more love
and you attract more energy.
491
00:31:34,377 --> 00:31:36,933
One of my intentions,
one of the things I asked for,
492
00:31:37,370 --> 00:31:41,444
was was to face my fears
and I realized that no
493
00:31:41,577 --> 00:31:44,711
I don't need to face my fears,
my fears are not going to go away.
494
00:31:45,022 --> 00:31:48,533
First I have to accept myself with my fears.
495
00:31:48,866 --> 00:31:50,422
Each person has a pattern.
496
00:31:50,888 --> 00:31:53,732
And that pattern
is 50% woven by the person,
497
00:31:53,733 --> 00:31:55,488
and 50% by the divine.
498
00:31:56,333 --> 00:31:59,955
Ayahuasca is capable
of changing that whole pattern.
499
00:32:01,155 --> 00:32:03,622
From being one person one day,
500
00:32:03,844 --> 00:32:05,884
the next day you're
completely another person.
501
00:32:05,888 --> 00:32:12,588
I'm open to light, and love and just good vibes and
anything that isn't on that vibration or frequency,
502
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,777
I'm just like, I don't
even see you, you don't exist.
503
00:32:16,355 --> 00:32:19,333
So that's how I'm walking
into this Ayahuasca trip.
504
00:32:19,577 --> 00:32:21,777
I'm just in a very receptive place.
505
00:32:21,977 --> 00:32:24,844
I just, you know,
I know what I'm about,
506
00:32:24,977 --> 00:32:27,644
I know what I stand for and
I know what I resonate with,
507
00:32:27,977 --> 00:32:30,554
and you know I just
just hope to walk that path,
508
00:32:30,555 --> 00:32:32,976
and you know whoever
is walking along that path,
509
00:32:32,977 --> 00:32:35,465
you know hope to meet
you and we can join hands
510
00:32:35,466 --> 00:32:37,644
and you know take
this trip together, you know.
511
00:32:48,444 --> 00:32:51,044
It happened for me
in my Ayahuasca experience
512
00:32:51,211 --> 00:32:54,811
when I was sitting there and I
had realized that I had just died.
513
00:32:54,900 --> 00:32:58,400
As I was looking at death
and experiencing death,
514
00:32:58,677 --> 00:33:02,155
I saw how dynamic it was and how much was going on.
515
00:33:02,444 --> 00:33:05,800
And I realized that I never
needed to fear death again.
516
00:33:06,511 --> 00:33:12,888
It was totally liberating and as
I spend time in this ayahuasca experience
517
00:33:13,177 --> 00:33:17,332
I realized that I was sitting in a
place where I could ask any question.
518
00:33:17,333 --> 00:33:20,333
I could go into the future
I could go into the past,
519
00:33:20,666 --> 00:33:24,244
whatever I wanted to know.
I'm going to ask a big question
520
00:33:24,755 --> 00:33:28,066
so I decided to ask,
"why do bad things happen?"
521
00:33:28,955 --> 00:33:31,911
And immediately upon asking that
522
00:33:32,066 --> 00:33:35,776
I was whipped out into
the edge of space back to
523
00:33:35,777 --> 00:33:38,532
where when you were a kid you go,
"Yeah, but what's past space?"
524
00:33:38,533 --> 00:33:43,233
And people go "Oh more space".
And what's past that? "More space".
525
00:33:43,234 --> 00:33:46,834
I was out there on the
edge looking at everything
526
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,140
in the universe basically contained.
527
00:33:49,466 --> 00:33:54,422
Like God would look at.
And as I'm looking at it spirit said to me,
528
00:33:54,711 --> 00:33:59,066
"you see that?"
It's totally balanced. It's perfect.
529
00:34:00,211 --> 00:34:05,611
And I looked at it and I was like "Wow, that's
true. It's totally balanced. Its perfect."
530
00:34:05,620 --> 00:34:09,420
"If something happens over here
it'll just be made up over here."
531
00:34:09,777 --> 00:34:13,555
And as soon as I had that realization,
I was sucked right back in.
532
00:34:13,688 --> 00:34:14,968
I was sitting in the room again.
533
00:34:16,177 --> 00:34:19,310
And as I was coming out
I just started to laugh,
534
00:34:19,311 --> 00:34:22,551
I was laughing and I realized that
I had just gotten the entire human cosmic joke.
535
00:34:26,311 --> 00:34:33,466
Here we are with God, the man with the white beard,
Buddha, Mohammad, and Jesus,
536
00:34:33,733 --> 00:34:38,777
all these men and I was with God and it was a woman.
537
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:44,880
That has stuck with me every day
since my Ayahuasca experience.
538
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,300
Well... for me...
539
00:34:56,354 --> 00:34:58,510
ingesting the
medicine was uh,
540
00:34:58,711 --> 00:35:01,173
a destruction of everything
I've ever known, everything I've
541
00:35:01,184 --> 00:35:03,521
ever believed in,
everything I've ever thought was true.
542
00:35:07,133 --> 00:35:11,200
I tried to reason it,
for a while, for two days,
543
00:35:11,466 --> 00:35:19,666
um after, tried to reason the idea that,
544
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,310
"It's a hallucinogenic drug Michelle"
it just you know
545
00:35:24,311 --> 00:35:27,866
it takes things from your
subconscious and projects them.
546
00:35:28,555 --> 00:35:33,222
You know, there's absolutely no way
that there's any truth in what you envisioned.
547
00:35:38,266 --> 00:35:43,310
Um... that it's just a trip.
You know you read tons of books on alchemy,
548
00:35:43,311 --> 00:35:48,822
you know you have tons of you know,
information about symbolism and religion
549
00:35:49,022 --> 00:35:51,666
deep embedded into your
brain since you're a little kid.
550
00:35:56,022 --> 00:35:59,266
But I know in my heart of hearts, it's not true.
551
00:36:02,933 --> 00:36:05,688
And that everything that I have ever known
552
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:14,444
could quite probably be bullshit
and uh it makes me happy.
553
00:36:15,533 --> 00:36:19,200
I felt a peace and calm that
I've never experienced in my life.
554
00:36:19,777 --> 00:36:22,955
An overwhelming feeling that I could relax
555
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:28,599
instead of constantly macheting
my way through life, my urban armor on.
556
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:33,043
It stripped everything away
and put me in contact with something
557
00:36:33,044 --> 00:36:38,488
that was a benevolent higher power as the only way
I can really describe it.
558
00:36:39,088 --> 00:36:44,822
I had such a hard time.
In the middle of it.
559
00:36:48,444 --> 00:36:51,888
Like a surge of...
and I felt my wounds,
560
00:36:51,955 --> 00:36:54,400
my wounds just opened up.
561
00:36:55,422 --> 00:36:59,755
And I was feeling pain and then uh like
562
00:37:01,466 --> 00:37:06,488
I grew up and I was able to um..
love myself a little bit more.
563
00:37:12,822 --> 00:37:18,444
Once I got through that hard part
or the part that I needed to get out
564
00:37:18,688 --> 00:37:28,511
it was just definitely
the best life changing experience
565
00:37:28,577 --> 00:37:30,311
that I have ever been through.
566
00:37:30,577 --> 00:37:32,265
When people access these medicines
567
00:37:32,266 --> 00:37:36,800
they need to access
with full love, with full willpower.
568
00:37:38,133 --> 00:37:41,577
Otherwise they need to find other ways.
569
00:37:41,711 --> 00:37:43,866
People will transcend anyways,
570
00:37:44,155 --> 00:37:49,711
Now is the time and these
medicines are major assistance,
571
00:37:50,355 --> 00:37:55,510
major helpers, major masters
you know assisting this process
572
00:37:55,511 --> 00:37:58,355
of transition for humanity
from one level of consciousness
573
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,177
to a higher level of consciousness.
574
00:38:00,311 --> 00:38:03,287
I've lost a lot of anger,
a lot of hatred
575
00:38:03,288 --> 00:38:06,688
and a lot of you know what
if you're an asshole, be an asshole.
576
00:38:07,288 --> 00:38:10,244
It's your fate, you know what
I mean like I'm easy now like
577
00:38:10,422 --> 00:38:13,577
I'm not angry anymore at
all the mean people in the world,
578
00:38:14,222 --> 00:38:17,622
you know cause
I accept that they're part of it.
579
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,732
And it's all good, you know what
580
00:38:19,733 --> 00:38:23,311
I mean. It's not my walk,
but you know, do your thing
581
00:38:23,644 --> 00:38:24,888
and I respect your path.
582
00:38:25,444 --> 00:38:27,199
But don't come near
me with your evil energy
583
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,000
cause I'll knock
you the fuck out. Hahahahaha.
584
00:38:45,466 --> 00:38:47,844
It all comes down to intent for me.
585
00:38:48,066 --> 00:38:50,422
If your intent is right, it's going to work,
586
00:38:50,933 --> 00:38:53,465
it's going to be better than you thought
587
00:38:53,466 --> 00:38:55,266
and you're going to have a lot less chaos.
588
00:38:55,511 --> 00:39:00,266
It seemed to me that nature
recognizes that people are highly stressed.
589
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:05,155
And that people need healing medicines
for the problems of addiction and depression.
590
00:39:11,466 --> 00:39:14,800
I kept looking for ways
to transcend on a daily basis
591
00:39:15,111 --> 00:39:17,576
and I was introduced to Sri Sri Ravi Shrankar
592
00:39:17,577 --> 00:39:21,088
and his breathing technique
called Sudarshan Kriya.
593
00:39:21,733 --> 00:39:25,622
The technique is being done
by millions of people including prisoners
594
00:39:25,911 --> 00:39:28,800
and inner city youth
who have been trained by Sri Sri
595
00:39:29,177 --> 00:39:32,555
use the technique to overcome
their physical environment
596
00:39:32,822 --> 00:39:34,844
and give themselves internal strength.
597
00:39:35,955 --> 00:39:38,822
Sri Sri's logic goes
that when we're born
598
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,800
we draw in our first
breath and when we die
599
00:39:43,355 --> 00:39:44,933
we let out our final breath.
600
00:39:45,644 --> 00:39:48,133
But most people think
nothing of it in between,
601
00:39:48,711 --> 00:39:53,066
when in fact breathing may be
our most valuable capability.
602
00:39:53,888 --> 00:39:58,888
It is an important tool, you know.
603
00:39:59,266 --> 00:40:02,400
For every emotion there
is a particular rythm the breath.
604
00:40:04,577 --> 00:40:08,755
And if we attend to the breath
by manipulating your own breath.
605
00:40:11,422 --> 00:40:18,377
You can slip into the altered
state of consciousness, At will. Haha.
606
00:40:23,911 --> 00:40:26,777
I learned the kriya breathing which blew my mind.
607
00:40:27,333 --> 00:40:29,221
The fact that
I was able to put myself
608
00:40:29,222 --> 00:40:32,044
into a psychedelic state with just my breath.
609
00:40:33,022 --> 00:40:36,111
Lightning bolts were
shooting out of my hands and feet.
610
00:40:36,377 --> 00:40:38,022
Time stood still.
611
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,377
I continued to get together with my friends
612
00:40:49,533 --> 00:40:51,465
to talk about our experience and how
613
00:40:51,466 --> 00:40:54,533
we were integrating our
psychonaut training into our lives.
614
00:40:55,711 --> 00:40:58,822
There is a whole group of scientists, very few,
615
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,777
but enough, who are saying
maybe brain doesn't produce consciousness,
616
00:41:03,088 --> 00:41:06,588
- maybe brain filters consciousness.
- You're saying we're transmitters?
617
00:41:06,900 --> 00:41:08,450
- We are transmitters.
- Ha, cool!
618
00:41:08,460 --> 00:41:10,160
And what your transmitters are,
619
00:41:10,233 --> 00:41:12,753
it's that infinite
potential that you spoke of.
620
00:41:13,177 --> 00:41:14,733
That field of possibilities.
621
00:41:15,066 --> 00:41:18,444
And so when when you
start to break down the boundaries,
622
00:41:19,422 --> 00:41:21,488
then all that's left is the infinite.
623
00:41:21,888 --> 00:41:23,988
So the boundaries
are like your prejudices.
624
00:41:23,989 --> 00:41:26,849
- They're all concepts.
- Things you know that you've accumulated throughout
625
00:41:26,850 --> 00:41:29,420
life that you either
repel or are attracted to.
626
00:41:29,422 --> 00:41:32,376
Yes, every boundary is
a conceptual boundary in consciousness.
627
00:41:32,377 --> 00:41:37,821
This is an earth rover, this gives
an opportunity to come to this planet,
628
00:41:37,822 --> 00:41:42,022
step into this suit,
have these life experiences, be creative.
629
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:47,955
And, and, and marvel at this
planet that that we come to
630
00:41:48,288 --> 00:41:49,443
and it's so funny because
631
00:41:49,444 --> 00:41:52,000
A.) I started this
whole thing not spiritual.
632
00:41:52,711 --> 00:41:56,843
B.) Once I saw the nature of
the cell membrane, the cell receptors.
633
00:41:56,844 --> 00:42:00,310
I said oh my god instantaneously
I had to recognize
634
00:42:00,311 --> 00:42:05,199
if you buy the science then it's
not is there or is there not there is a spirit.
635
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,576
So it really helped me
to bring my scientific mind
636
00:42:08,577 --> 00:42:11,422
and my kind of spiritual
experience in together
637
00:42:11,688 --> 00:42:13,008
and they're not different at all.
638
00:42:13,155 --> 00:42:16,688
We're just discovering through
all these pathways how all that is one.
639
00:42:19,466 --> 00:42:26,622
After I started to really journey with the plants
was when things sort of changed.
640
00:42:26,822 --> 00:42:28,622
When that older boyfriend of mine,
641
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,466
I was like 24 at the time and
he told me I was an idiot.
642
00:42:33,155 --> 00:42:36,688
And he said you need, you you are very passionate
643
00:42:36,844 --> 00:42:39,444
but you have nothing to, to backup.
644
00:42:39,688 --> 00:42:43,555
How you feel about the world.
You've got, you don't read,
645
00:42:43,888 --> 00:42:46,799
you don't have, you know... you read one book
646
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,511
and you can get 20 years
worth of research, in one book!
647
00:42:51,111 --> 00:42:53,910
And he kind of like opened up
my mind and to do research
648
00:42:53,911 --> 00:42:58,399
and to fill my mind.
Now when I see the world I do a psychedelic,
649
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,266
I think metaphorically
I think in so many different layers, you know,
650
00:43:02,511 --> 00:43:04,487
and of course
I enjoyed the moment too.
651
00:43:04,488 --> 00:43:07,310
I can chase sensations
like any of them. You know,
652
00:43:07,311 --> 00:43:10,777
I love to feel good and have fun
and interact with people but,
653
00:43:11,466 --> 00:43:14,776
you know information is so beautiful
and if we could just tap
654
00:43:14,777 --> 00:43:18,666
into the reservoirs
and fountains of the people before us.
655
00:43:19,466 --> 00:43:21,400
You know, you never know
where it could take you.
656
00:43:25,777 --> 00:43:28,444
When I lost Paul, I was like,
657
00:43:29,466 --> 00:43:33,555
I went through about a year
of just being like an animal.
658
00:43:33,711 --> 00:43:42,044
Like what could I do physically
to just get my mind off of existentialism,
659
00:43:42,222 --> 00:43:44,799
get my mind off of how transient life
660
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,199
is and how we just come here
and can disappear at any moment.
661
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:56,200
Um, how could I get my mind off that, so I just
went whhhaaa, summer, crazy, nuts... haha berserker.
662
00:43:56,622 --> 00:44:00,600
Like I did everything I
could possibly do to hide from myself.
663
00:44:01,377 --> 00:44:11,377
And uhh, I'll tell you that my Ayahuasca trip
made me sad that he left me here.
664
00:44:16,088 --> 00:44:20,821
It wasn't a sadness that
he's gone it was more like a jealousy
665
00:44:20,822 --> 00:44:26,977
that he's there first. It's fucked up, but yeah.
666
00:44:29,866 --> 00:44:33,065
I think it was affirmed
to me in the ayahuasca experience
667
00:44:33,066 --> 00:44:34,706
and some other trips I've had in my life,
668
00:44:35,044 --> 00:44:39,444
where what was happening is,
when I took the medicine,
669
00:44:40,377 --> 00:44:44,487
or I meditated and I went inside,
that there basically,
670
00:44:44,488 --> 00:44:50,199
I was taking filters off is
what was happening so all this bullshit...
671
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,088
Reticular activation system,
672
00:44:52,244 --> 00:44:54,600
it's like doors of perception
when you popped it... Yeah.
673
00:44:55,088 --> 00:44:57,776
...he felt like that
filtration mechanism that we create
674
00:44:57,777 --> 00:45:00,155
by the age of seven was just lifted off.
675
00:45:00,644 --> 00:45:03,421
You know how, like you receive so much information
676
00:45:03,422 --> 00:45:08,776
in your in your visual cortex but your brain
only accepts a certain amount,
677
00:45:08,777 --> 00:45:10,376
so that you're not overwhelmed.
678
00:45:10,377 --> 00:45:16,844
That's your reticular activation system deciding
according to your wants, likes,
679
00:45:17,088 --> 00:45:21,622
and, and and fight or flight, deciding
what information you're going to take in.
680
00:45:21,888 --> 00:45:24,933
Each time I got together
with my fellow psychonauts
681
00:45:25,088 --> 00:45:28,911
we felt stronger and stronger about the need
to get the information out
682
00:45:29,022 --> 00:45:32,422
so we could help others to access
some of these ancient techniques
683
00:45:32,622 --> 00:45:34,622
that had been so profound in our lives.
684
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,221
We should just, with the True Reality Society,
685
00:45:37,222 --> 00:45:39,132
should set up a place like in Costa Rica.
686
00:45:39,133 --> 00:45:42,333
Like a haven for people who think the same way.
687
00:45:42,340 --> 00:45:44,340
- Put them all around the world.
- I like that.
688
00:45:44,342 --> 00:45:45,752
In the consciousness of it its like...
689
00:45:45,755 --> 00:45:46,488
I'm In!
690
00:45:47,355 --> 00:45:48,888
- Woo!
- I'm In!
691
00:45:48,889 --> 00:45:50,600
All right! Everything is rolling along,
692
00:45:50,844 --> 00:45:57,133
things are falling into place
and you know like everything in life you,
693
00:45:57,350 --> 00:45:59,827
you want validation,
you want to know that it's having
694
00:45:59,830 --> 00:46:03,640
some kind of an effect. Beyond just
"hey, I'm having a good time."
695
00:46:03,642 --> 00:46:06,542
I'm learning a lot I'm having
all these cool experiences, but
696
00:46:06,544 --> 00:46:09,844
you know, am I really,
is something really happening.
697
00:46:10,022 --> 00:46:13,665
And I was looking for
some kind of sign that you know,
698
00:46:13,666 --> 00:46:17,822
it was making a difference because
I couldn't see what the difference was.
699
00:46:18,177 --> 00:46:23,510
And other than my own friends
and people around me so I was kinda thinking,
700
00:46:23,511 --> 00:46:27,754
God... give me a sign here,
that you know this is, is making a difference,
701
00:46:27,755 --> 00:46:28,955
that there is something to it.
702
00:46:29,333 --> 00:46:32,843
And then the phone call came
from Gerry who I hadn't seen
703
00:46:32,844 --> 00:46:36,066
since we shot with Deepak
in his apartment years earlier.
704
00:46:36,555 --> 00:46:40,600
Unbeknownst to me, Gerry
had taken Deepak's advice as well
705
00:46:40,866 --> 00:46:45,000
and he went down to Costa Rica
to do a plant medicine called Iboga,
706
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,133
that comes from an African root.
707
00:46:47,688 --> 00:46:52,599
It's the strongest psychedelic known to man
and Gerry was taking it to see
708
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,244
if he could break his addiction.
709
00:46:54,977 --> 00:47:00,077
The full moon came to Gerry and asked him
if he wanted to see why he was so messed up.
710
00:47:06,866 --> 00:47:11,022
You know because of my life
I had addiction issues, tons of women issues,
711
00:47:11,844 --> 00:47:15,977
ego issues out the gazoo, smoking, drinking.
712
00:47:16,311 --> 00:47:19,422
You name it I was a fan, right?
713
00:47:19,930 --> 00:47:27,377
So uh... I said what's wrong with me,
and so what happened then
714
00:47:27,444 --> 00:47:33,911
is that my body went to a
house that I hadn't seen in 48 years.
715
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:38,111
It was my grandfather's
house in Scranton, Pennsylvania.
716
00:47:38,466 --> 00:47:43,155
And at the front of the house,
like 3 year old me is going like this to me.
717
00:47:43,688 --> 00:47:47,288
He's like waving me in
and I'm looking at the floor,
718
00:47:47,377 --> 00:47:51,687
and as a kid I knocked
over cranberry juice or grape juice
719
00:47:51,688 --> 00:47:55,022
and it hit the wall and
that stain was on the wall.
720
00:47:55,333 --> 00:48:01,733
This is how perfect detail and
then next thing you know the kid opened the door
721
00:48:02,133 --> 00:48:05,644
and like went like this
to me go look at it
722
00:48:06,066 --> 00:48:09,822
and my grandfather was sexually
molesting me and I was three.
723
00:48:10,133 --> 00:48:13,666
The moon told Gerry
to go see his dead grandfather
724
00:48:13,866 --> 00:48:17,288
and have him explain why
he'd done it and give him an apology.
725
00:48:18,155 --> 00:48:19,977
Gerry went to see his grandfather,
726
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,511
who denied it ever
happened and sent him away.
727
00:48:22,977 --> 00:48:28,333
She told him to get his father
to help him to get an apology from his grandfather.
728
00:48:28,620 --> 00:48:32,020
And he said that he was sorry
and I told him I forgave him.
729
00:48:32,026 --> 00:48:34,826
And uh even though he
wouldn't do anything for me
730
00:48:34,911 --> 00:48:38,600
and then the guy,
the shaman goes hey go to the moon,
731
00:48:38,822 --> 00:48:41,933
so I went to the moon, back to the moon and uh and
732
00:48:42,733 --> 00:48:50,621
I said uh Mrs. Moon what can you do for me?
And she said open your chest,
733
00:48:50,622 --> 00:48:54,111
and I went like this and my heart was in there.
734
00:48:54,688 --> 00:48:59,422
And the moon took my heart out and washed it.
735
00:49:00,066 --> 00:49:04,176
And she, and I said what,
the shaman is saying what is she doing?
736
00:49:04,177 --> 00:49:09,843
And I said she's washing it like
this like she has hands right, crazy!
737
00:49:09,844 --> 00:49:13,732
But truth. She's washing it and
I said what should I do with it,
738
00:49:13,733 --> 00:49:16,888
to the shaman he said have
her put it in your left hand.
739
00:49:17,244 --> 00:49:20,955
I said Mrs. Moon would you put it in my
left hand and she put it in my left hand.
740
00:49:21,533 --> 00:49:23,421
And he goes, what do you
want me to do with it,
741
00:49:23,422 --> 00:49:24,742
and he goes put it in your chest.
742
00:49:24,755 --> 00:49:26,065
And I went to put it in my chest
743
00:49:26,066 --> 00:49:28,688
and I got here and it was black again.
744
00:49:29,288 --> 00:49:30,911
So it only stayed pink for like,
745
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,777
I don't know, 5 seconds.
746
00:49:34,333 --> 00:49:37,955
And I said I'm not putting
this thing in me because it's shit.
747
00:49:38,444 --> 00:49:40,422
You know, it's terrible, and uh...
748
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,310
he said ask her for a new one. So I said Mrs. Moon
749
00:49:45,311 --> 00:49:46,711
can I please have
a new heart,
750
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:51,533
you know and she said yeah
and then she gave me this new heart
751
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,080
and then I put it, and then
I said what do you want me to do with it.
752
00:49:54,088 --> 00:49:55,418
She said put it in your left hand,
753
00:49:55,422 --> 00:49:59,644
put it in your chest and uh, then the next day,
754
00:50:00,911 --> 00:50:01,955
I was a different guy.
755
00:50:02,111 --> 00:50:04,177
He hasn't touched drugs since,
756
00:50:04,333 --> 00:50:08,088
and he's able to have a drink
socially without needing to get drunk.
757
00:50:08,555 --> 00:50:10,333
He's reunited with his family
758
00:50:10,488 --> 00:50:13,422
and for the first time he's in a real relationship.
759
00:50:13,666 --> 00:50:16,244
The first time I was
invited to do plant medicine
760
00:50:16,666 --> 00:50:18,244
I thought the person was crazy.
761
00:50:18,511 --> 00:50:21,777
I was like you're going
to take a drug to get spiritual?
762
00:50:22,044 --> 00:50:24,354
I don't think so, and
I wanted nothing to do with it
763
00:50:24,355 --> 00:50:25,487
and it freaked me out.
764
00:50:25,488 --> 00:50:28,244
You know my mom is a meth
addict and I was a meditator.
765
00:50:28,911 --> 00:50:33,710
And, uh finally this woman
who's like just a love in my life
766
00:50:33,711 --> 00:50:37,271
invites me to go and I couldn't say no,
so I went and that night, um... she told me to set
767
00:50:40,155 --> 00:50:43,155
some intentions of what
you want to see and I said okay
768
00:50:43,555 --> 00:50:49,087
I want to see why I keep attracting
the same psycho guy over and over and over
769
00:50:49,088 --> 00:50:51,066
with a different face sucking the light out of me
770
00:50:51,511 --> 00:50:54,421
and the second thing that
I wanted to see was umm
771
00:50:54,422 --> 00:50:55,733
what was I here to do.
772
00:50:55,822 --> 00:51:01,177
And so that night was just
one of the most amazing nights of my life.
773
00:51:01,488 --> 00:51:04,933
Um..I was shown exactly who I am,
774
00:51:05,333 --> 00:51:10,465
what I'm here to do and exactly
why I kept attracting that same psycho guy over,
775
00:51:10,466 --> 00:51:11,266
over and over again.
776
00:51:11,688 --> 00:51:15,444
It's just amazing cause Gerry
and I wake up every day like
777
00:51:15,511 --> 00:51:17,088
wow is this our life like
778
00:51:17,466 --> 00:51:20,600
we just feel so blessed to be
in love with our best friend.
779
00:51:21,111 --> 00:51:23,000
To be doing what we love.
780
00:51:23,155 --> 00:51:25,400
Immediately when
I came back and my kids saw me,
781
00:51:25,488 --> 00:51:26,777
they knew I was a different guy
782
00:51:27,266 --> 00:51:28,546
and they knew something changed.
783
00:51:28,644 --> 00:51:30,822
As soon as he walked through the door
784
00:51:31,244 --> 00:51:32,954
I can like visibly see a difference,
785
00:51:32,955 --> 00:51:35,910
let alone when I was actually talking with him.
786
00:51:35,911 --> 00:51:38,243
I was like shocked, you know,
787
00:51:38,244 --> 00:51:41,288
I was like well I gotta give
this thing a whirl if it turn,
788
00:51:42,044 --> 00:51:46,155
if it could turn, him around 180,
what could it do to me?
789
00:51:46,355 --> 00:51:49,488
The first time I saw Gerard
after he did plant medicine,
790
00:51:49,933 --> 00:51:52,644
he didn't even have to speak or say one word to me.
791
00:51:52,866 --> 00:51:56,577
I could tell as I walked up to him,
about 15 feet away,
792
00:51:56,844 --> 00:51:58,711
I knew he was a changed person.
793
00:51:58,888 --> 00:52:05,444
The chances of someone coming out of that severe
of a lifestyle case is very rare.
794
00:52:05,622 --> 00:52:07,022
I didn't want to drink anymore.
795
00:52:07,311 --> 00:52:09,199
I was smoking
two packs of cigarettes a day.
796
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:10,800
I went from that to nothing immediately.
797
00:52:12,044 --> 00:52:13,755
I can't even think about doing drugs.
798
00:52:13,866 --> 00:52:17,866
Like I can't even, wouldn't
even have the thought to go do some drugs.
799
00:52:18,111 --> 00:52:22,154
He's like Zappy,
not only did I take plant medicine
800
00:52:22,155 --> 00:52:25,088
and break my addiction in one session
801
00:52:25,266 --> 00:52:28,154
but I've actually opened
up a center for people to come
802
00:52:28,155 --> 00:52:29,666
and expand their consciousness.
803
00:52:30,222 --> 00:52:34,400
Heal themselves, break addiction and it exists.
804
00:52:34,955 --> 00:52:37,955
And I was like Oh My God!
It manifested
805
00:52:38,111 --> 00:52:40,732
from that conversation
with Deepak that day
806
00:52:40,733 --> 00:52:42,711
where he said stir it
up in the pot and drink it.
807
00:52:51,533 --> 00:52:56,200
The moon told me,
and this sounds so ridiculously crazy,
808
00:52:56,266 --> 00:53:02,622
but told me to go buy a center
and to make it a plant based center,
809
00:53:03,266 --> 00:53:06,266
told me what building to buy,
told me what to pay for it,
810
00:53:07,177 --> 00:53:10,022
uh... told me how to treat my girlfriend,
811
00:53:10,688 --> 00:53:12,244
told me how to treat my children,
812
00:53:12,866 --> 00:53:15,155
told me that,
that everything will be okay.
813
00:53:15,244 --> 00:53:18,555
His place is called
Rythmia and where is it?
814
00:53:19,022 --> 00:53:21,200
We can set up a place in Costa Rica.
815
00:53:23,333 --> 00:53:25,400
This was the miracle I needed.
816
00:53:25,844 --> 00:53:29,711
This place had manifested
out of that single conversation
817
00:53:30,022 --> 00:53:33,022
and the desire to help people break the wire.
818
00:53:35,911 --> 00:53:39,532
The first ever clinic where people can go
819
00:53:39,533 --> 00:53:42,822
to expand their consciousness and heal themselves.
820
00:54:02,950 --> 00:54:07,950
While you're at Rythmia you can receive
counseling and spiritual development,
821
00:54:08,133 --> 00:54:13,433
including a program developed specifically
for Rythmia by Reverend Michael Beckwith,
822
00:54:13,933 --> 00:54:16,333
called The Answer is You.
823
00:54:16,533 --> 00:54:21,332
It's a consciousness, e
xpanding program, that allows people to
824
00:54:21,333 --> 00:54:25,133
1.) take 100% responsibility
for their own life,
825
00:54:25,911 --> 00:54:28,377
come out of the shame
and blame game, blaming others
826
00:54:29,066 --> 00:54:33,533
2.) It moves you through
a period of forgiving yourself,
827
00:54:33,688 --> 00:54:37,155
forgiving all others
so you can be clean inside
828
00:54:38,022 --> 00:54:42,511
3.) You begin to embrace
the vibration of intentionality
829
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:47,199
of having the intention or
direction of how you want your life to be.
830
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:48,511
You have to choose this.
831
00:54:48,911 --> 00:54:54,711
If we don't choose it then the undertow
of the human society is choosing for you.
832
00:54:54,911 --> 00:54:57,687
Going to a place
like what is being created
833
00:54:57,688 --> 00:55:00,643
at Rythmia is a
place where you can literally
834
00:55:00,644 --> 00:55:02,133
just come back to life's rhythm.
835
00:55:02,355 --> 00:55:03,822
The miracle that you're going to get
836
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,288
is that you're going to get is
the real truth and the truth is that,
837
00:55:08,044 --> 00:55:12,533
that we are all, all of us
connected from the same thing.
838
00:55:13,044 --> 00:55:16,066
Uh... and that love is
the thing that holds us all together.
839
00:55:16,822 --> 00:55:20,466
And, when you get
to that truth that's,
840
00:55:20,644 --> 00:55:23,421
that's the whole thing that
you've been running from your whole life
841
00:55:23,422 --> 00:55:27,443
is that one truth and then
you come and you come to a place like this
842
00:55:27,444 --> 00:55:31,344
and you get to see that that's
the truth, then there's the miracle.
843
00:55:31,488 --> 00:55:36,988
And then you can walk away going, you know what you
know I lost everything this weekend or this week,
844
00:55:37,244 --> 00:55:42,222
but I gained my life and what
more could you ask for in a vacation.
845
00:55:49,622 --> 00:55:52,533
Everything I've gone
through has truly been worth it.
846
00:55:53,355 --> 00:55:55,800
Because even before
this movie is finished,
847
00:55:56,288 --> 00:56:00,555
it's already changed the world,
because this place exists.
848
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:13,022
Every act that comes
from purpose is supported by nature
849
00:56:13,333 --> 00:56:18,177
and has the potential to change things
in ways you could have never dreamed of.
850
00:56:18,488 --> 00:56:23,087
How do I channel all
of this connection into being
851
00:56:23,088 --> 00:56:25,377
an efficient human being in society,
852
00:56:25,866 --> 00:56:29,155
into giving back because
for me love is everything.
853
00:56:29,333 --> 00:56:35,111
But you have to almost have
a way to re-enter the Ayahuasca experience
854
00:56:35,866 --> 00:56:38,777
almost on a daily basis
to stay tapped into it
855
00:56:39,955 --> 00:56:41,999
and that has to be through meditation
856
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:46,155
or through something that would deliver
you back there if only for a moment.
857
00:56:51,288 --> 00:56:53,911
All of us had life changing experiences
858
00:56:54,266 --> 00:56:58,065
so the question is how
could these incredible plant energies
859
00:56:58,066 --> 00:57:01,400
be illegal today to consume or even to study?
860
00:57:02,288 --> 00:57:05,043
It turns out that the answer
to that question maybe
861
00:57:05,044 --> 00:57:08,866
even more sinister than the
reason they've been taken out of religion.
862
00:57:08,933 --> 00:57:09,977
Money.
863
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,487
The pharmaceutical
companies are only interested
864
00:57:13,488 --> 00:57:16,666
in selling their patented
petroleum based medications
865
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,555
that people need to take
for the rest of their lives.
866
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,800
These drugs do not cure,
but only mask the symptoms
867
00:57:24,022 --> 00:57:26,755
and have significant
negative side effects.
868
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,955
Here I am living
my entire life sustained by plants.
869
00:57:33,644 --> 00:57:38,711
I'm eating vegetarian and my day job
is bringing out a plant based formula
870
00:57:38,888 --> 00:57:40,666
to help people with addiction.
871
00:57:41,111 --> 00:57:43,444
I owe everything to these ancient tools.
872
00:57:49,755 --> 00:57:54,288
Plant medicine, meditation, breathing,
873
00:57:54,844 --> 00:57:58,866
these are some of the tools that were once
part of the religious tradition.
874
00:57:59,111 --> 00:58:01,177
It's time to bring them back.
875
00:58:10,222 --> 00:58:12,622
We started the true reality society
876
00:58:12,755 --> 00:58:16,844
to create a peace army
to counteract mass violence in the world
877
00:58:17,022 --> 00:58:19,043
and to bring together people who believe
878
00:58:19,044 --> 00:58:21,866
in the importance of
going inside their minds.
879
01:05:16,950 --> 01:05:18,311
Breathe in
880
01:05:19,222 --> 01:05:21,822
slowly, and then breathe out slowly...
881
01:05:24,822 --> 01:05:28,600
On the in breath perhaps
having the thought "peace".
882
01:05:31,022 --> 01:05:34,866
And on the out breath the thought "joy".
883
01:05:36,688 --> 01:05:44,888
"Peace" on the in breath
and "joy" on the out breath.
884
01:05:52,622 --> 01:05:55,577
And bring your awareness
into your heart now
885
01:05:57,955 --> 01:06:01,400
and remember a great experience of love.
886
01:06:12,977 --> 01:06:16,755
Remember a great
experience of compassion.
887
01:06:21,644 --> 01:06:24,088
A great experience of joy.
888
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:34,311
A great experience of equanimity.
889
01:06:35,711 --> 01:06:38,066
The peace that
passes understanding.
890
01:06:42,333 --> 01:06:45,733
And now bring awareness
back into your whole body,
891
01:06:47,355 --> 01:06:52,688
and allow the boundaries
of your body to slowly dissolve
892
01:06:54,133 --> 01:06:58,844
and merge with your surroundings.
893
01:07:01,244 --> 01:07:03,911
Recognize that every
boundary is conceptual.
894
01:07:06,955 --> 01:07:09,399
There's no boundaries,
there are no national boundaries,
895
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,711
no tribal boundaries, no ethnic boundaries,
896
01:07:14,111 --> 01:07:17,022
no racial boundaries,
no religious boundaries.
897
01:07:18,866 --> 01:07:20,533
They're all imagination.
898
01:07:22,311 --> 01:07:24,644
And they have limited our potential.
899
01:07:25,622 --> 01:07:31,622
We are the stars and we are the sky and
we are the moon and we are the galaxies.
900
01:07:31,630 --> 01:07:33,630
We are the
cosmic horizon.
901
01:07:34,033 --> 01:07:37,753
We are the big bang.
We are the laws of nature.
902
01:07:38,866 --> 01:07:43,110
We are plank-scale-space-time-geometry
903
01:07:43,111 --> 01:07:47,688
where everything dissolves
into all possibilities.
904
01:07:48,500 --> 01:07:52,500
Where platonic values like
truth, goodness, beauty, harmony,
905
01:07:52,506 --> 01:07:56,906
evolution are embedded as
the essential raw material
906
01:07:56,910 --> 01:07:59,910
of the universe
where there is mathematical
907
01:07:59,977 --> 01:08:02,111
truth but also musical truth.
908
01:08:03,111 --> 01:08:05,511
Whether it is the
poetry of the universe
909
01:08:06,422 --> 01:08:09,466
and the dance of the universe and we are that dance.
910
01:08:11,620 --> 01:08:16,200
As Sufi Podrumi says, look at
these worlds spinning out of nothingness,
911
01:08:16,266 --> 01:08:17,533
this is within your power.
912
01:08:19,155 --> 01:08:23,444
We come spinning out of
nothingness scattering stars like dust.
913
01:08:24,711 --> 01:08:28,822
Out beyond all ideas of right
doing and wrong doing there's a field,
914
01:08:29,555 --> 01:08:33,733
I'll meet you there.
So remember the field that you went to,
915
01:08:34,422 --> 01:08:37,022
it was beyond right
doing and wrong doing,
916
01:08:38,222 --> 01:08:44,133
it was the field that
we come and which we long for.
917
01:08:46,777 --> 01:08:50,977
I'll let Roberto finish
his Peruvian shamanic song.
82006
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