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NARRATOR:
Memory-- it's the key
to our identity.
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Without memory, we're nothing.
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It's who we are.
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NARRATOR:
But how does it actually work?
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It's a huge mystery.
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NARRATOR:
Today, scientists
are probing our brains
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like never before.
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We're seeing a memory being
formed in front of your eyes.
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NARRATOR:
Finding clues that lead us
to shocking new places.
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Your memory's not as accurate
as you think it is.
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We can tinker with a specific
memory at will.
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Perhaps Mother Nature
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needs a little bit of tweaking
on the dial.
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NARRATOR:
From editing memories...
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We can implant a false memory.
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NARRATOR:
...to deleting our worst fears.
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It was unbelievable.
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I was standing there like,
"How can this be possible?
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I used to be terrified
of spiders."
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We target and even erase
the fear memory itself.
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NARRATOR:
Are we approaching the day where
at the flick of a switch,
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we can rewrite our past?
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Being able to use new
technologies to edit memories
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is frightening.
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I think that it's a matter
of when this happens,
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not a matter of if it'll happen.
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NARRATOR:
"Memory Hackers,"
right now on NOVA.
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And by PBS viewers like you.
Thank you.
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And the George D. Smith Fund.
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I remember...
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I remember...
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I remember...
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I remember...
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Hmm...
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NARRATOR:
Memory.
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We know it as a record
of our lives:
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how to find our keys
or recite facts from school.
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But stop and think about it.
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It's so much more.
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From your earliest memory...
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Falling off of a horse
at about five years old.
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When I walked into kindergarten
and I met my best friend.
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About 1925, we moved
to 513 Spring Avenue.
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Your happiest...
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When my daughter was born.
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When she, like, came out.
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Seeing a real life human being
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breathe that first breath
of fresh air.
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NARRATOR:
Or saddest...
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The death of my father.
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NARRATOR:
We are little
but the sum of our memories.
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DANIELA SCHILLER:
It's who we are.
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That's how we understand
ourselves and our lives.
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NARRATOR:
Consider for a moment
just how vivid a memory can be.
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The smells, the sounds...
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I know the shoes, the socks,
the pants and shirt I wore.
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It was like it happened
yesterday.
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I do have a picture in my head.
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I can see it!
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That is a remarkably complex
computational process
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that memory achieved
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within milliseconds.
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What an incredible,
powerful gift.
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NARRATOR:
How is this gift possible?
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How does the world
get into our heads
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and turn into a memory?
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How does memory actually work?
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Wow.
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NARRATOR:
Turns out that's one
of the biggest mysteries
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in science today.
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If you go and ask most people,
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they would say
they understand memory,
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but the truth is really
rather far from that.
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We sort of understand
the tip of the iceberg.
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RODDY ROEDIGER:
We're just kind of
nibbling around
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the big central mystery
of memory:
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how do I bring back in time now
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something that happened to me
long ago?
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It's a very difficult problem
that we haven't solved.
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SCHILLER:
Memory is the biggest mystery.
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It's as big as the question of,
"What is the universe?
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Why are we here?"
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NARRATOR:
Could this 11-year-old boy
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hold one of the keys
to unlocking the mystery?
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On first glance,
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Jake Hausler looks like
a normal fifth grader,
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but as Washington University's
Roddy Roediger is discovering,
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he seems to be anything but.
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ROEDIGER:
What happened Friday,
October 28, 2011?
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World Series game seven.
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Cardinals won 6-2.
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Who were the pitchers
for the teams?
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Chris Carpenter for St. Louis,
Matt Harrison for the Rangers.
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ANNOUNCER:
The World Champs in 2011!
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We're just getting to know Jake
and just starting to study him.
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He's obviously a very bright kid
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with a different kind
of very powerful memory.
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Let's try a different day here.
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How about May 4, 2013?
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That was a Saturday,
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and I saw Iron Man 3.
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He appears to have
a pretty unique ability.
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So he can tell you what he did
years ago to this date,
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and that's very, very unusual,
in and of itself,
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and to find it in a child
is particularly unusual.
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When was Osama
bin Laden killed?
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May 2, 2011 in Pakistan,
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May 1, 2011 in U.S.A.
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ROEDIGER:
I mean, it's amazing.
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I've never felt like my memory
was particularly bad,
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but compared to Jake's,
clearly it is.
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It's just a mystery
as to what's going on here.
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NARRATOR:
Jake can remember details
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from almost every day
of his life since age seven.
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Once he started speaking,
really,
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we noticed he was different.
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MOM:
What are
the 13 colonies?
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Georgia, Connecticut,
Massachusetts, Maryland...
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DAD:
I remember taking him
to the grocery store one time
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and he knew where
all the items were by aisle.
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It's a little bit like having
a computer living with you.
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NARRATOR:
We'd all remember getting a pet,
but the exact date?
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DAD:
What day did I pick up
Gracie in Wisconsin?
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March 31.
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Where did I fly into?
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Minneapolis/St. Paul.
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What did I eat for dinner
the night I was in Wisconsin?
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Cheese curds?
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That is correct.
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(laughing)
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There's no doubt that
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there's something different
going on there.
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NARRATOR:
What's different about Jake
is that he has HSAM:
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Highly Superior
Autobiographical Memory.
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Highly Superior, you can
remember days from your life
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in lots of detail, like
what day of the week was it,
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and you can't forget.
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What about 2004?
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NARRATOR:
Jim McGaugh is a pioneer
in the science of memory.
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He discovered HSAM 15 years ago.
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McGAUGH:
And when did you meet
with me?
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June 28, 2008.
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NARRATOR:
So far, out of the several
thousand tested,
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he's discovered 55 adults
who have this amazing ability.
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A Saturday at Panera Bread
in Newport Beach.
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McGAUGH:
I can give them any date,
say ten years ago,
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five years ago,
20 years ago, and so on.
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Do you know when
Elvis Presley died?
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August 16, '77.
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And their performance will be
at least 80% correct,
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and maybe 100% correct,
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depending upon
the particular individual.
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NARRATOR:
One of the best memories
McGaugh has ever tested
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belongs to someone
you might recognize:
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actress Marilu Henner
from the hit show Taxi.
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I knew as a very young child
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that I had
a very unusual memory.
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They called me Miss Memory,
Miss UNIVAC, The Memory Kid,
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things like that.
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NARRATOR:
Name-calling aside,
they're not geniuses.
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In fact, on average,
they have normal IQs.
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They are not superior
in other forms of learning,
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like book learning,
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standard laboratory
learning tasks, and so on.
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I think a misconception,
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as you probably know,
that people have,
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they think it's some type
of autistic savant thing,
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that we're using some type
of mathematical calculation
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like in Rain Man.
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Yeah, defitely not Rain Man.
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NARRATOR:
So what gives them
this amazing ability?
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McGaugh has scanned
over a dozen HSAMs
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and found some intriguing hints.
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For example,
an area in the brain
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associated with memory--
the uncinate fasciculus--
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is more active in HSAMs.
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There are some differences
in the brain.
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They're statistically
significant,
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but they have not
given us a pattern
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such that we can say,
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"This is the neurobiological
basis of HSAM."
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What is it about their brains
that enables this ability?
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That's the open question.
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NARRATOR:
And that's where Jake comes in.
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He is the youngest person
ever discovered with HSAM,
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and here
at Washington University,
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scientists are mapping his brain
with new imagingechnologies.
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Over the next year,
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they'll test his memory
while doing hundreds of scans.
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All right, Jake,
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so what happened
on April 8, 2013?
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I went to the St. Louis Zoo.
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NARRATOR:
When they are finished,
they will have perhaps
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the most comprehensive picture
ever of a child's brain.
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McDERMOTT:
We're getting loads and loads
of data on him.
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It's very, very exciting.
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I mean, to do this
in a normal person
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in this comprehensive a way
would be really exciting,
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and to be able to do it
on a child
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who has particularly unique
abilities is extra special.
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NARRATOR:
Then, they'll compare
Jake's scans to other children's
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to see if they can unlock
the secret
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of wt makes his memory
so extraordinary.
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MAN:
It's a chance of a lifetime.
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You can't write a grant saying
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we're gonna go look
for someone like him
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because you'll never
find him, right?
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NARRATOR:
The hope is that
this little boy's brain
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can help answer
some big questions
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about how our memory works.
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Jake clearly is able to extract
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remarkable amounts
of information from his brain,
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but we don't know if you or I
have that information in us,
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but we just can't remember it,
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or if it just doesn't get
encoded into our brain function
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in the first place.
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NARRATOR:
The mystery with Jake
and the other HSAMs is,
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do they actually keep more
memories than the rest of us,
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or do we all have this wealth
of detail
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buried deep inside our brains--
we just can't get at it?
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If we can understand
how he harnesses that,
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to be able to generate that
within ourselves
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could be a very powerful tool.
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McGAUGH:
There is potential there
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that we will learn something
truly new and important
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about the functioning
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of the most complicated
and interesting known structure
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in the universe,
and that's our brain.
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And the most important thing
it does is learn and remember.
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NARRATOR:
But what exactly is a memory?
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Amazingly, this simple question
has stumped thinkers for ages.
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Until the 1950s,
few clues emerged,
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and then came a single patient
who would change everything.
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When I was a young researcher,
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learning was learning
and memory was memory,
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and it was just, you know,
a thing that happens.
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And then along came the findings
of Brenda Milner
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and her subject, HM.
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NARRATOR:
HM stands for Henry Molaison,
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patient zero
in the study of memory.
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After a childhood
bicycle accident,
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Molaison began to suffer
severe epileptic seizures.
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To try and quell
those seizures,
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neurosurgeons performed
an operation
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where they removed
the parts of his brain
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that they thought were creating
those seizures.
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NARRATOR:
Much of what they removed
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came from a part of the brain
called the hippocampus.
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After the surgery,
his seizures were gone,
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but there was
an alarming side effect.
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WALKER:
From that point forward,
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he could no longer make
any new memories.
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He was what we call
"densely amnesic."
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NARRATOR:
It could only mean one thing:
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the hippocampus must be
the part of the brain
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responsible for creating
new long-term memories.
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This in itself
was a breakthrough,
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but that was just the start.
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BRENDA MILNER (recording):
Do you know what you did
yesterday?
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HM (recording):
No, I don't.
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MILNER (recording):
How about this morning?
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NARRATOR:
Brenda Milner wanted to know,
despite his amnesia,
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could he still have
some form of memory?
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BRENDA MILNER:
He was a very nice person.
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He was very cooperative.
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Fortunately for us, he liked
doing tests, he liked puzzles.
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NARRATOR:
So she came up with a puzzle
to trace a star shape
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using only a mirror
to see his hand.
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MILNER:
If you try this,
it's jolly difficult,
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but normal subjects,
with practice, a few trials,
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learn to do this thing.
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NARRATOR:
Because HM appeared
to have zero ability
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to make new long-term memories,
he should be hopeless.
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He shouldn't be able
to learn anything.
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How's he going to do?
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I didn't know, I didn't know,
I had no idea.
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NARRATOR:
And in fact, every time
Milner asked him to train,
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he claimed he'd never done
the task before.
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But his performance
betrayed him.
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He got better and better,
until...
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I was so excited,
because this was a breakthrough.
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He can't remember
the events of his life,
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but it seems that he can
possibly learn motor skills.
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NARRATOR:
The fact that HM
could remember motor skills
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but not new events in his life
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meant that memory couldn't be
just one thing.
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We had to leave behind
the notion
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there was just
one kind of memory.
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We now knew that there are
different kinds of memory,
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and those different kinds
of memories
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depend on different parts
of the brain.
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NARRATOR:
Knowing where memories are
in the brain is one thing,
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but how do they get there?
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How does a long-term memory
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get written in the brain
in the first place?
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These are the questions
that have driven
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Nobel Prize-winner Eric Kandel
for over 60 years.
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It all started back in Vienna
on his ninth birthday.
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ERIC KANDEL:
I received a marvelous
little toy car
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that I drove with great pleasure
through our small apartment.
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NARRATOR:
Two days later
was Kristallnacht,
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the infamous Night
of Broken Glass.
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In that violent prelude
to the Holocaust,
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thousands of Nazi soldiers
stormed the Jewish neighborhoods
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in Vienna.
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KANDEL:
November 9,
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there was a knock on the door,
and two Nazi policemen came in
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and said,
"Pack all your things."
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When we came back a week later,
everything of value is gone,
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including my little toy car.
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That was a very painful
experience.
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NARRATOR:
A painful experience that would
define his life's work.
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KANDEL:
Everyone who went through
the Holocaust,
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there are memories that
you can never forget.
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NARRATOR:
Kandel wanted to know:
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how did that experience
become a memory
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he would carry with him
for life?
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That got me interested in
psychology and psychoanalysis.
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And when I got interested
in that, I said,
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"What's the central question
in psychoanalysis?"
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It's memory,
how we recall things.
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NARRATOR:
But where to start?
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His biggest lead was Milner's
early work with HM.
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The hippocampus is crucial
for forming new memories.
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But how do they get there?
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Could there be a physical
mechanism on the cellular level?
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KANDEL:
So I thought I would record
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from single cells
in the hippocampus,
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and those cells
would be so unique,
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they would speak to me
of memory storage.
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NARRATOR:
Within months,
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he was able to record the sound
of hippocampal neurons firing.
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KANDEL:
Our colleagues were euphoric.
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But we didn't learn a darn thing
about learning and memory.
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So I realized one needed to take
a reductionist approach,
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and I thought I would use
a simple animal
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with a simple nervous system,
simple behavior,
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and try to study that.
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NARRATOR:
Enter Aplysia Californica,
a giant sea slug
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with one of the simplest nervous
systems in the animal kingdom.
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KANDEL:
One of the great giants
in the field
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thought I was throwing
my career away.
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In my naivetรฉ, I was confident
that this would be right.
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NARRATOR:
He thought if he could just
isolate the cellular changes
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that occurred when Aplysia
learns simple tasks,
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it would be the key
to understanding our memory.
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Humans have neurons.
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Sea slugs have neurons.
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They're not that different,
right?
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Even at the level of DNA,
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our DNA's not so terribly
different.
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The same fundamental kinds
of changes
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should underlie memory.
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NARRATOR:
To test his hypothesis,
Kandel's first step
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was to create a memory
in the sea slug.
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To do that, he trained it
to fear a light touch.
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KANDEL:
If you touch it in the siphon,
it'll withdraw the siphon.
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NARRATOR:
The siphon is
the slug's water spout.
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When it is touched, it also
withdraws its gill slightly
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as a protective reflex.
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But pair that touch...
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KANDEL:
Touch, shock.
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NARRATOR:
...with a mild shock, you get
a much stronger reaction.
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And do it repeatedly...
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Now when you touch
the animal's siphon again,
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even weeks later,
without a shock,
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it reacts as if it got shocked.
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Somehow, it remembers that
that light touch means shock.
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It has formed
a long-lasting memory.
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The question is, how?
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Kandel had a hunch.
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If he could just replicate
that touch experiment
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with single cells,
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he could see exactly what was
going on to make a memory.
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KANDEL:
We could take the cells
out of the animal
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and put it into the cell culture
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and reconstruct
the neural circuit.
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We could look at each level
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and see what happens
with long-term memory.
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MARTIN:
That was this huge breakthrough.
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What Eric Kandel really did was
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he took this sort of phenomenon
of memory
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and turned it
into a biological question.
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"What are the changes
that are happening
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that give rise to memory?"
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NARRATOR:
To find out,
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Kandel's team extracted
two neurons from the sea slug.
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This is a sensory neuron
from its siphon,
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and that's a motor neuron
from the tail.
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They are connected
by a single synapse.
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KANDEL:
The synapse
is the point of contact
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where one neuron
talks to another.
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NARRATOR:
Then, to simulate
a long-term memory
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just like with the live animal,
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Kandel repeatedly stimulated
the sensory neuron.
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And when he did, suddenly
something magical happened.
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New synaptic connections
started to grow.
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KANDEL:
This made us realize
for the first time
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that long-term memory
actually involves
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an anatomical change
in the brain
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whereby new connections
are being formed.
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And that just really
blew us away
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the first time we saw it.
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JOE LEDOUX:
That was a phenomenal discovery
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because it showed us
for the first time
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that memory involves
a structural physical change
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in the brain.
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That became the foundation
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for our whole conceptual basis
for understanding memory.
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NARRATOR:
Using today's technology,
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you can witness this process
first-hand.
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This shows you the nucleus
in the cell.
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NARRATOR:
After repeated stimulation,
the neuron's nucleus
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starts to pump out these tiny
glowing specks called mRNA,
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recipes for building proteins.
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They're about to travel
down to the synapse
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with instructions
to build new connections.
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And you see
this magnificent voyage
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that this particle,
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which is carrying messenger RNA
to the synapses.
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NARRATOR:
When it gets there,
the instructions are released
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and the new connections grow,
seen here in green.
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We're seeing a memory being
formed in front of your eyes.
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These anatomical changes occur
in your brain
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when you learn
and remember something.
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NARRATOR:
From sea slugs to humans,
these physical changes
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are considered
the biological basis of memory.
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It's an article of faith
at this point
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that the mechanisms
that he has uncovered
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are fundamental ones to learning
and memory for all of us.
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NARRATOR:
Kandel's work launched
a new way of probing memory,
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grounded in biology and built
around a simple premise:
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the growth of new connections
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is what allows a memory
to persist
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for days, months, even years.
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But that was just a piece
of the picture,
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a basic mechanism
for how memory works
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at the level of single cells.
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Even in a sea slug, a memory
is made up of about 50 neurons
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out of 20,000.
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In a human, it's more like
tens of thousands
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out of 100 billion.
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Somehow, it's this network
that stores a memory.
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Which begs the question:
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where exactly does a particular
memory live in us?
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To this day,
that remains a mystery,
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but we aren't without clues.
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In the last 25 years,
new imaging tools
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have allowed a generation
of explorers
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to chart memory
in the human brain.
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And today, we can finally begin
to draw a rough map
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of where some of our most
treasured memories live.
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Take something like
a first kiss.
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Most people remember
their first kiss.
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Do I remember my first kiss?
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(laughing)
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I do.
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When did I kiss that girl?
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There was this Italian,
this dashing Italian.
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MAN:
She was like, "This is something
people do who like each other,"
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and I was, "Okay, I like you."
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MAN:
I remember, you know,
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sort of planning this kiss
for, like, a week!
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Her friend whispered to me,
"Make a move and walk faster."
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And all of a sudden,
Lauren and I were alone
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in kind of a grove of trees.
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He takes my face like this
and plants one on me!
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It was like the universe
exploded or something like that.
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It just felt like suddenly,
everything was different.
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MATT WALKER:
The question becomes then,
where is the memory?
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And what we started
to understand is that
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there isn't a nicely
sort of packaged memory
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that's sort of folded up
like a letter
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and placed inside of an envelope
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in one specific area
of the brain.
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Different parts of memories
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are coded in different locations
of the brain.
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Think about your first kiss.
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The visual elements are coded
at the back of the brain
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in the visual cortex.
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The smell components are coded
in the olfactory cortex
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just above the nose.
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The motoric,
the kinesthetic elements,
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they're coded up here
in the motor cortex.
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The emotional elements
are coded
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in deep brain structures
like the amygdala.
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00:23:44,957 --> 00:23:47,124
And together,
it is the hippocampus
492
00:23:47,326 --> 00:23:49,059
that is going to grab ahold
493
00:23:49,262 --> 00:23:52,163
of those individual
brain anatomical areas,
494
00:23:52,365 --> 00:23:54,598
those balloons of information,
495
00:23:54,801 --> 00:23:57,001
and it is going
to bind them together
496
00:23:57,203 --> 00:24:02,206
and produces a memory that
you're capable of remembering.
497
00:24:02,408 --> 00:24:04,074
NARRATOR:
So if different parts
of a memory
498
00:24:04,277 --> 00:24:05,810
live in different parts
of the brain,
499
00:24:06,012 --> 00:24:08,078
and we know that the growth
of new connections
500
00:24:08,281 --> 00:24:10,080
is important for storing them,
501
00:24:10,283 --> 00:24:12,650
that would suggest that
every memory
502
00:24:12,852 --> 00:24:15,853
is physically tattooed
onto our brains.
503
00:24:16,055 --> 00:24:19,457
So how come we don't
remember them all?
504
00:24:19,659 --> 00:24:21,959
The question is, if there are
these structural changes
505
00:24:22,161 --> 00:24:23,961
that give rise to memory,
506
00:24:24,163 --> 00:24:27,565
but memories are changeable
and dynamic,
507
00:24:27,767 --> 00:24:28,799
how can that be?
508
00:24:30,837 --> 00:24:32,837
NARRATOR:
Perhaps the answer can be found
509
00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:35,706
in the act of remembering
itself.
510
00:24:35,908 --> 00:24:37,541
Think about it:
511
00:24:37,743 --> 00:24:41,479
a memory only comes alive
when you recall it.
512
00:24:41,681 --> 00:24:43,547
What happens in your brain
513
00:24:43,749 --> 00:24:46,584
each time you recollect
a past experience?
514
00:24:46,786 --> 00:24:49,220
That's what Karim Nader
wondered.
515
00:24:49,422 --> 00:24:52,456
His quest for answers started
when he was a grad student
516
00:24:52,658 --> 00:24:54,425
at one of Kandel's lectures.
517
00:24:54,627 --> 00:24:56,026
Eric Kandel came
and gave this brilliant talk.
518
00:24:56,229 --> 00:24:57,828
You know, there are examples
for this...
519
00:24:58,030 --> 00:24:59,196
NADER:
He had beautiful pictures
520
00:24:59,398 --> 00:25:02,500
showing that synapses
could grow over time.
521
00:25:02,702 --> 00:25:04,134
The work is very elegant.
522
00:25:04,337 --> 00:25:05,803
It took everyone's breath away.
523
00:25:06,005 --> 00:25:10,040
NARRATOR:
Looking at those pictures
gave Nader an idea.
524
00:25:10,243 --> 00:25:12,810
NADER:
"Hey, why would all of this
have happened just once?
525
00:25:13,012 --> 00:25:15,279
"Wouldn't it be cool
if all of this happened again
526
00:25:15,481 --> 00:25:16,780
when you recall the memory?"
527
00:25:18,551 --> 00:25:21,318
NARRATOR:
If Kandel's work
helped establish
528
00:25:21,521 --> 00:25:23,087
that memories can't form
529
00:25:23,289 --> 00:25:26,090
without new proteins
that build new connections,
530
00:25:26,292 --> 00:25:27,858
what happens
to those connections
531
00:25:28,060 --> 00:25:31,595
when you remember something?
532
00:25:33,833 --> 00:25:37,935
At the time, memory was pictured
kind of like a library.
533
00:25:38,137 --> 00:25:41,071
The underlying dogma was that
when you formed a memory,
534
00:25:41,274 --> 00:25:44,675
it was filed away in your brain,
and that's it.
535
00:25:44,877 --> 00:25:45,943
It was there now forever.
536
00:25:46,145 --> 00:25:49,547
NARRATOR:
It's called consolidation.
537
00:25:49,749 --> 00:25:51,348
RAMIREZ:
You can't modify it, it just is.
538
00:25:51,551 --> 00:25:53,050
It's just in the brain.
539
00:25:53,252 --> 00:25:55,753
NARRATOR:
So when you remember
your first kiss,
540
00:25:55,955 --> 00:26:00,724
you pull out that book,
look at it, and put it back.
541
00:26:00,927 --> 00:26:03,727
Though it may fade over time
or get lost in the stacks,
542
00:26:03,930 --> 00:26:07,565
the original story, or memory,
is always still there.
543
00:26:07,767 --> 00:26:10,701
Nader wondered,
"Could this really be true?
544
00:26:10,903 --> 00:26:14,572
"Or is it possible that just
the act of recalling the memory
545
00:26:14,774 --> 00:26:17,541
could rewrite the story?"
546
00:26:17,743 --> 00:26:22,913
To find out, Nader designed
an experiment.
547
00:26:23,115 --> 00:26:25,583
JOE LEDOUX:
When Karim told me he wanted
to do that experiment,
548
00:26:25,785 --> 00:26:26,750
I probably said something like,
549
00:26:26,953 --> 00:26:28,085
"Don't do it,
don't waste your time."
550
00:26:28,287 --> 00:26:30,254
But being a smart guy,
he went off and did it.
551
00:26:30,456 --> 00:26:35,025
NARRATOR:
So Nader decided
to put his idea to the test.
552
00:26:35,227 --> 00:26:39,330
He started by training rats
to fear the sound of a tone...
553
00:26:39,532 --> 00:26:40,397
(ringing)
554
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:41,799
Okay, so there's the tone.
555
00:26:42,001 --> 00:26:45,069
NARRATOR:
...by pairing it
with a mild shock.
556
00:26:45,271 --> 00:26:46,604
Now there's the shock.
557
00:26:48,341 --> 00:26:51,375
So right now he's really scared,
he doesn't like this at all.
558
00:26:51,577 --> 00:26:54,445
NARRATOR:
Just like Kandel's sea slugs,
559
00:26:54,647 --> 00:26:57,781
the rats quickly learn
to fear the tone alone.
560
00:26:57,984 --> 00:27:00,651
They have formed a long-term
memory that the tone
561
00:27:00,853 --> 00:27:02,853
predicts shock.
562
00:27:03,055 --> 00:27:04,321
So every time it hears
the tone...
563
00:27:04,523 --> 00:27:06,390
(ringing)
564
00:27:06,592 --> 00:27:08,592
NADER:
So you see,
even though there's no shock,
565
00:27:08,794 --> 00:27:11,762
the animal's freezing,
it's afraid.
566
00:27:11,964 --> 00:27:14,264
NARRATOR:
We know the rats' brains
have built new connections
567
00:27:14,467 --> 00:27:15,899
to store the memory.
568
00:27:16,102 --> 00:27:18,102
But what happens
to those connections
569
00:27:18,304 --> 00:27:21,672
when the rat recalls
the memory?
570
00:27:21,874 --> 00:27:23,207
(ringing)
571
00:27:23,409 --> 00:27:26,410
To find out, Nader first plays
the tone to remind the rat
572
00:27:26,612 --> 00:27:30,180
of his fear,
and when he freezes...
573
00:27:30,383 --> 00:27:34,118
The next part is gonna be giving
him a compound directly.
574
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,520
NARRATOR:
The compound is anisomycin,
575
00:27:36,722 --> 00:27:38,722
a drug known
to block the proteins needed
576
00:27:38,924 --> 00:27:42,292
to build the connections
that store new memories.
577
00:27:42,495 --> 00:27:45,429
But Nader's rats have already
formed the memory;
578
00:27:45,631 --> 00:27:47,765
they're just recalling it.
579
00:27:47,967 --> 00:27:51,301
If memory consolidation really
is like a book in a library,
580
00:27:51,504 --> 00:27:53,804
the drug should have no effect.
581
00:27:54,006 --> 00:27:56,640
The rats' brains should have
built a permanent memory
582
00:27:56,842 --> 00:27:59,410
and they should still freeze
when they hear the tone.
583
00:27:59,612 --> 00:28:01,512
NADER:
So if the memory
is wired in the brain,
584
00:28:01,714 --> 00:28:03,614
this drug should have
absolutely no effect.
585
00:28:03,816 --> 00:28:06,417
NARRATOR:
But now when Nader
plays the tone...
586
00:28:06,619 --> 00:28:07,885
(ringing)
587
00:28:08,087 --> 00:28:09,887
NADER:
Oh my God, so now you see.
588
00:28:10,089 --> 00:28:11,488
NARRATOR:
He keeps moving.
589
00:28:11,691 --> 00:28:13,991
You would think that the animal
should be freezing if it
590
00:28:14,193 --> 00:28:16,760
still had the memory there,
but now it's acting as if
591
00:28:16,962 --> 00:28:18,762
the memory has been erased
from its mind.
592
00:28:18,964 --> 00:28:22,566
NARRATOR:
As if it never learned to fear
the tone in the first place.
593
00:28:22,768 --> 00:28:25,302
The memory appears to be gone.
594
00:28:25,504 --> 00:28:26,570
My jaw just dropped.
595
00:28:26,772 --> 00:28:27,905
I just couldn't believe it.
596
00:28:28,107 --> 00:28:30,541
So I ran into
my supervisor's office going,
597
00:28:30,743 --> 00:28:31,975
"Holy (bleep) (bleep) (bleep),
598
00:28:32,178 --> 00:28:33,577
I can't (bleep) believe
this happened."
599
00:28:33,779 --> 00:28:37,081
I mean the probability of this
happening is like zero, right?
600
00:28:37,283 --> 00:28:40,884
NARRATOR:
Because a drug known to block
the formation of new memories
601
00:28:41,087 --> 00:28:44,955
also blocked them during recall,
it means the act of remembering
602
00:28:45,157 --> 00:28:48,826
must make memories
vulnerable to change.
603
00:28:49,028 --> 00:28:50,327
In other words:
604
00:28:50,529 --> 00:28:52,096
It's not this you have a memory,
you encode it,
605
00:28:52,298 --> 00:28:53,630
and it's stuck there.
606
00:28:53,833 --> 00:28:56,133
But instead what it means
is that every time
607
00:28:56,335 --> 00:29:01,505
that memory is recalled,
it is vulnerable to alteration.
608
00:29:01,707 --> 00:29:04,141
Nader's discovery that any time
you recall the memory
609
00:29:04,343 --> 00:29:08,245
you essentially disrupt it
was a significant advance.
610
00:29:08,447 --> 00:29:10,781
It changes everything we think
about memory.
611
00:29:14,019 --> 00:29:15,819
It turns out memory
is not at all actually
612
00:29:16,021 --> 00:29:18,122
like putting a book away
in the library of the brain,
613
00:29:18,324 --> 00:29:20,824
but it's more like bringing up
a file on your computer,
614
00:29:21,026 --> 00:29:23,260
constantly modifying
that file.
615
00:29:23,462 --> 00:29:25,729
NARRATOR:
The theory is, every time
you recall something,
616
00:29:25,931 --> 00:29:28,932
you have to pull it up
off the hard drive to view it.
617
00:29:29,135 --> 00:29:31,034
To return it
to long-term memory,
618
00:29:31,237 --> 00:29:34,338
you have to hit "save"
and reconsolidate the memory
619
00:29:34,540 --> 00:29:38,242
by creating new proteins
to essentially rewire the memory
620
00:29:38,444 --> 00:29:40,611
into your brain.
621
00:29:40,813 --> 00:29:43,147
Imagine something precious
in a box.
622
00:29:43,349 --> 00:29:46,750
And then each time you take it
out, it changes a little bit.
623
00:29:46,952 --> 00:29:48,018
And then you put it back.
624
00:29:48,220 --> 00:29:49,686
Then take it out,
changes a little bit.
625
00:29:49,889 --> 00:29:51,288
That's how your memory works.
626
00:29:51,490 --> 00:29:54,158
NARRATOR:
The idea that the simple act
of remembering
627
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,593
could make your memories
vulnerable to change
628
00:29:56,796 --> 00:30:00,464
transformed our understanding
of memory.
629
00:30:00,666 --> 00:30:03,333
Within a few years, Nader's
findings were replicated
630
00:30:03,536 --> 00:30:07,971
in dozens of species and led
to over a thousand experiments,
631
00:30:08,174 --> 00:30:09,606
even reportedly inspired
the movie
632
00:30:09,809 --> 00:30:12,609
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.
633
00:30:12,812 --> 00:30:14,111
MARK RUFFALO:
Just focus on the memories.
634
00:30:14,313 --> 00:30:16,013
Here at Lacuna,
we have a safe technique
635
00:30:16,215 --> 00:30:19,149
for the focused erasure
of troubling memories.
636
00:30:19,351 --> 00:30:23,153
NARRATOR:
But what if this isn't
just the stuff of movies?
637
00:30:23,355 --> 00:30:26,423
What if it's possible to use
reconsolidation in humans?
638
00:30:26,625 --> 00:30:28,926
Perhaps to erase
certain memories,
639
00:30:29,128 --> 00:30:31,528
like the ones
that keep you up at night.
640
00:30:31,730 --> 00:30:32,896
MAN:
Heights--
641
00:30:33,098 --> 00:30:34,064
I'm terrified of heights.
642
00:30:34,266 --> 00:30:36,233
WOMAN:
I don't want to be on a ladder.
643
00:30:36,435 --> 00:30:37,634
I don't want to be
on the second floor.
644
00:30:37,837 --> 00:30:39,937
I don't like to be looking down.
645
00:30:40,139 --> 00:30:41,605
I can't tell you the last time
I've been in a pool,
646
00:30:41,807 --> 00:30:43,640
I can't tell you the last time
I've owned a bathing suit.
647
00:30:43,843 --> 00:30:46,076
But, I mean, the water gets like
probably right here,
648
00:30:46,278 --> 00:30:47,578
and it's like the...
(hyperventilating)
649
00:30:47,780 --> 00:30:49,413
Elevators.
(chuckles)
650
00:30:51,684 --> 00:30:52,616
Snakes are the worst.
651
00:30:52,818 --> 00:30:54,318
I don't know what it is
about bees,
652
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,487
but I just can't...
I can't be around them.
653
00:30:57,690 --> 00:30:58,589
Spiders.
654
00:30:58,791 --> 00:31:01,291
I'm petrified of spiders.
655
00:31:01,493 --> 00:31:02,926
Even the smallest ones.
656
00:31:03,128 --> 00:31:03,994
Terrified.
657
00:31:05,331 --> 00:31:06,396
If I see a spider
I don't want to come near it.
658
00:31:09,869 --> 00:31:12,302
I'm really scared of spiders.
659
00:31:12,504 --> 00:31:14,905
Or at least I used to be.
660
00:31:15,107 --> 00:31:17,774
But now I'm just completely
relaxed sitting here
661
00:31:17,977 --> 00:31:19,309
with a tarantula.
662
00:31:19,511 --> 00:31:21,111
And it's really crazy.
663
00:31:21,313 --> 00:31:23,313
NARRATOR:
Ever since she was
a little girl,
664
00:31:23,515 --> 00:31:27,684
Sasha de Waal has been plagued
by her fear of spiders.
665
00:31:27,887 --> 00:31:30,287
But thanks to a new therapy
using reconsolidation,
666
00:31:30,489 --> 00:31:32,389
that fear seems to have
been erased.
667
00:31:32,591 --> 00:31:33,924
Yeah.
668
00:31:34,126 --> 00:31:37,060
(laughing): I'm petting
a poisonous spider indeed.
669
00:31:37,263 --> 00:31:40,864
NARRATOR:
The scientist who cured Sasha
is Merel Kindt
670
00:31:41,066 --> 00:31:44,301
from the University
of Amsterdam.
671
00:31:44,503 --> 00:31:46,236
When she heard about
Karim Nader's work,
672
00:31:46,438 --> 00:31:48,572
she immediately saw
the potential.
673
00:31:48,774 --> 00:31:50,874
MEREL KINDT:
So I was really thrilled.
674
00:31:51,076 --> 00:31:53,911
I realized if this is going
to work for humans,
675
00:31:54,113 --> 00:31:57,180
this is, yeah,
very important news.
676
00:31:57,383 --> 00:32:01,551
So can you tell me a bit more
about your fear of spiders?
677
00:32:01,754 --> 00:32:04,054
NARRATOR:
Using reconsolidation,
she has developed a treatment
678
00:32:04,256 --> 00:32:06,189
to erase patients'
life-long fears.
679
00:32:06,392 --> 00:32:08,125
They just scare me.
680
00:32:08,327 --> 00:32:09,459
Just fear.
681
00:32:09,662 --> 00:32:13,263
When I sleep I dream about it,
I'm just very scared.
682
00:32:13,465 --> 00:32:16,233
For the treatment we will walk
to the other side of the room,
683
00:32:16,435 --> 00:32:24,741
and there is a terrarium tank
with a tarantula in it.
684
00:32:24,944 --> 00:32:28,345
I'm going to ask you
to touch the tarantula.
685
00:32:30,516 --> 00:32:31,782
Okay?
686
00:32:31,984 --> 00:32:33,417
They're not poisonous, right?
687
00:32:33,619 --> 00:32:37,988
Yeah, well, all tarantulas
are poisonous.
688
00:32:39,224 --> 00:32:41,858
Walk to the yellow line.
689
00:32:42,061 --> 00:32:45,162
Very good, you are
doing very good.
690
00:32:45,364 --> 00:32:48,765
NARRATOR:
Just like with Nader's rats,
the first step is to get Jeroen
691
00:32:48,968 --> 00:32:51,702
to draw up the memory
of his fear.
692
00:32:56,141 --> 00:32:59,209
(breathing heavily)
693
00:32:59,411 --> 00:33:02,312
KINDT:
You're doing very good.
694
00:33:02,514 --> 00:33:06,817
We ask our participants
to approach the tarantula,
695
00:33:07,019 --> 00:33:10,253
which triggers
the original fear memory.
696
00:33:10,456 --> 00:33:13,223
How much distress
do you feel right now?
697
00:33:13,425 --> 00:33:15,225
Dry mouth.
698
00:33:15,427 --> 00:33:17,427
I feel shaking.
699
00:33:17,629 --> 00:33:19,363
You are doing
very, very well.
700
00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:23,333
Try to look here.
701
00:33:23,535 --> 00:33:25,268
Don't avoid it.
702
00:33:25,471 --> 00:33:27,804
Stay here, it's important
that you see it.
703
00:33:28,007 --> 00:33:29,106
Yeah?
704
00:33:29,308 --> 00:33:30,741
Just put your hand here.
705
00:33:34,313 --> 00:33:36,880
And then stop, yeah?
706
00:33:37,082 --> 00:33:40,650
What do you think
that will happen?
707
00:33:40,853 --> 00:33:42,352
KINDT:
Approaching the spider
708
00:33:42,554 --> 00:33:45,555
makes the fear memory unstable.
709
00:33:45,758 --> 00:33:46,890
Yeah.
710
00:33:47,092 --> 00:33:50,460
Okay, very good, we go
to the other side of the room.
711
00:33:51,830 --> 00:33:53,830
KINDT:
Such that if we give propranolol
712
00:33:54,033 --> 00:33:57,701
after the exposure
to the tarantula,
713
00:33:57,903 --> 00:34:01,738
the drug can interfere
with the restabilization
714
00:34:01,940 --> 00:34:05,876
of the original fear memory.
715
00:34:06,078 --> 00:34:08,678
NARRATOR:
Propranolol is
a blood-pressure medication
716
00:34:08,881 --> 00:34:11,782
that blocks the release of
noradrenaline in the amygdala,
717
00:34:11,984 --> 00:34:14,418
the fear center of the brain.
718
00:34:14,620 --> 00:34:17,721
Since noradrenaline is part
of the brain's anxiety signal
719
00:34:17,923 --> 00:34:21,124
during a fearful event,
blocking it after recall
720
00:34:21,326 --> 00:34:23,660
seems to disrupt
the reconsolidation
721
00:34:23,862 --> 00:34:26,663
of the fear part of the memory.
722
00:34:26,865 --> 00:34:30,167
What is very important is that
it is not a forget pill.
723
00:34:30,369 --> 00:34:33,270
If we do not trigger
the memory reactivation,
724
00:34:33,472 --> 00:34:35,906
the drug will not work.
725
00:34:38,844 --> 00:34:42,712
NARRATOR:
The next day Jeroen returns.
726
00:34:42,915 --> 00:34:44,915
What we are going
to do is again,
727
00:34:45,117 --> 00:34:46,783
walking to the other
side of the room
728
00:34:46,985 --> 00:34:50,087
and I'm going to ask you
again to touch the spider.
729
00:34:55,294 --> 00:34:56,960
You can touch it
here at the backside.
730
00:34:57,162 --> 00:34:59,763
(chuckles)
731
00:35:10,175 --> 00:35:11,141
Very good.
732
00:35:11,343 --> 00:35:12,776
Did you touch it,
did you feel it?
733
00:35:12,978 --> 00:35:13,810
Yeah, yeah.
734
00:35:14,012 --> 00:35:15,812
Okay, try it again.
735
00:35:16,014 --> 00:35:17,881
It felt like rubber.
736
00:35:18,083 --> 00:35:19,816
Yeah, try it again.
737
00:35:23,222 --> 00:35:24,387
Oh, man.
738
00:35:24,590 --> 00:35:26,089
Okay.
739
00:35:26,291 --> 00:35:29,025
NARRATOR:
It takes a few tries,
but after just minutes...
740
00:35:29,228 --> 00:35:30,961
Do it again.
741
00:35:38,504 --> 00:35:41,738
Very good,
yes, yes.
742
00:35:42,908 --> 00:35:44,040
Yes.
743
00:35:44,243 --> 00:35:47,043
How does it feel
to touch a tarantula?
744
00:35:47,246 --> 00:35:48,845
Like touching a hamster.
745
00:35:49,047 --> 00:35:49,779
Yeah.
746
00:35:51,416 --> 00:35:53,250
Maybe he likes it.
747
00:35:56,522 --> 00:36:00,157
NARRATOR:
So far Kindt's repeated
this work in over 30 people
748
00:36:00,359 --> 00:36:05,862
with spider phobia and other
anxiety disorders, and...
749
00:36:06,064 --> 00:36:07,597
The effects were so overwhelming
750
00:36:07,799 --> 00:36:12,002
that I did not believe them
initially.
751
00:36:12,204 --> 00:36:14,237
NARRATOR:
But in fact, the therapy worked
752
00:36:14,439 --> 00:36:18,708
in every spider phobe
she tested, even a year later.
753
00:36:18,911 --> 00:36:20,510
It was unbelievable,
and I was standing there,
754
00:36:20,712 --> 00:36:22,279
like, how can this be possible?
755
00:36:22,481 --> 00:36:23,580
(chuckles)
756
00:36:23,782 --> 00:36:25,215
It's my new friend.
757
00:36:25,417 --> 00:36:27,150
It's really confusing.
758
00:36:29,121 --> 00:36:30,253
It's like a contradiction...
759
00:36:30,455 --> 00:36:31,621
Yeah, yeah,
contradiction.
760
00:36:31,823 --> 00:36:33,723
...with how I used to feel
and how I feel now.
761
00:36:33,926 --> 00:36:38,795
It's so strange,
like I am someone else now.
762
00:36:38,997 --> 00:36:43,300
We of course cannot prove
that we delete or even erase
763
00:36:43,502 --> 00:36:47,404
the original fear memory,
because we can only observe
764
00:36:47,606 --> 00:36:52,609
the new behavior, but given that
the fear does not come back,
765
00:36:52,811 --> 00:36:56,213
we hypothesize that
the previously formed memory
766
00:36:56,415 --> 00:37:00,183
are in fact deleted.
767
00:37:00,385 --> 00:37:04,287
NARRATOR:
Treating people with spider
phobia is only the first step.
768
00:37:04,489 --> 00:37:08,358
Kindt is now among a handful of
scientists using reconsolidation
769
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:13,163
to treat a variety of disorders
from drug addiction to PTSD,
770
00:37:13,365 --> 00:37:15,599
and though the research
is in its infancy,
771
00:37:15,801 --> 00:37:18,235
early results have been
promising.
772
00:37:18,437 --> 00:37:22,839
I am very hopeful that the
reconsolidation intervention
773
00:37:23,041 --> 00:37:25,775
will be further developed
774
00:37:25,978 --> 00:37:28,345
for people with post-traumatic
stress disorder.
775
00:37:28,547 --> 00:37:33,416
NARRATOR:
But reconsolidation is more
than just a therapeutic tool.
776
00:37:33,619 --> 00:37:37,854
If the act of recalling a memory
makes it vulnerable to change,
777
00:37:38,056 --> 00:37:43,026
this may also explain something
we've known all along...
778
00:37:43,228 --> 00:37:47,497
That our memory is often
an unreliable narrator.
779
00:37:47,699 --> 00:37:52,068
I could swear by anyone, pass
every lie detector test that...
780
00:37:52,271 --> 00:37:54,671
I had met Mother Teresa,
but I hadn't.
781
00:37:54,873 --> 00:37:57,440
Something that I wanted to
happen, but it never did happen.
782
00:37:57,643 --> 00:38:02,412
I believe that my earliest
memory was a very happy memory
783
00:38:02,614 --> 00:38:05,048
of going to a movie called
The Greatest Show on Earth.
784
00:38:05,250 --> 00:38:08,952
ยถ ยถ
785
00:38:09,154 --> 00:38:13,089
And it wasn't until much later
I found out that the movie
786
00:38:13,292 --> 00:38:15,258
was released when I was
eight years old.
787
00:38:15,460 --> 00:38:19,062
So it couldn't have been
my earliest memory.
788
00:38:19,264 --> 00:38:22,599
NARRATOR:
This comes as no surprise
to Elizabeth Loftus.
789
00:38:22,801 --> 00:38:25,068
She's spent the last 40 years
790
00:38:25,270 --> 00:38:28,471
exploring exactly how unreliable
our memory is.
791
00:38:28,674 --> 00:38:31,374
I think people ought to pay
more attention to the fact
792
00:38:31,576 --> 00:38:33,810
that there are memory errors
all around them.
793
00:38:34,012 --> 00:38:37,514
NARRATOR:
Her work has inspired
a generation of researchers,
794
00:38:37,716 --> 00:38:40,383
including psychologist
Julia Shaw.
795
00:38:40,585 --> 00:38:43,186
The question isn't,
do we have false memories?
796
00:38:43,388 --> 00:38:44,688
It's, how false
are our memories?
797
00:38:44,890 --> 00:38:46,690
There are so many things
798
00:38:46,892 --> 00:38:49,192
that can and do go wrong
along the way.
799
00:38:49,394 --> 00:38:52,295
NARRATOR:
To find out how wrong,
Shaw has designed perhaps
800
00:38:52,497 --> 00:38:56,733
the most comprehensive study
ever on false memory.
801
00:38:56,935 --> 00:38:58,935
She starts by recruiting
over a hundred people
802
00:38:59,137 --> 00:39:02,305
for what they think is a study
about their childhood memories.
803
00:39:02,507 --> 00:39:04,774
So this is my first meeting
with the participant.
804
00:39:04,976 --> 00:39:06,476
The first event which
we'll be talking about
805
00:39:06,678 --> 00:39:09,279
was a time when you were 12
and you moved from Trinidad
806
00:39:09,481 --> 00:39:10,347
to Kelowna with your family.
807
00:39:10,549 --> 00:39:12,182
I hated the move.
808
00:39:12,384 --> 00:39:14,884
NARRATOR:
Actually the study is to see
if it's possible to implant
809
00:39:15,087 --> 00:39:19,089
a false memory
about committing a crime.
810
00:39:19,291 --> 00:39:21,458
I had colleagues saying,
"This isn't going to work.
811
00:39:21,660 --> 00:39:23,326
"There's no way you will get
individuals to think
812
00:39:23,528 --> 00:39:25,195
that they committed a crime
that never happened."
813
00:39:25,397 --> 00:39:28,598
NARRATOR:
She begins with a true event
gathered from their parents--
814
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,267
in this case a family move.
815
00:39:31,470 --> 00:39:33,970
We moved around like
every year kinda thing.
816
00:39:34,172 --> 00:39:36,539
NARRATOR:
But this was just a trick
to gain trust.
817
00:39:36,742 --> 00:39:39,442
The next step is to introduce
the false memory:
818
00:39:39,644 --> 00:39:42,479
a fight so severe
that the police were called.
819
00:39:42,681 --> 00:39:45,515
So the other event which
your parents report happening
820
00:39:45,717 --> 00:39:48,318
was when you were 14 years old
you initiated a physical fight
821
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,019
and the police
called your parents.
822
00:39:50,222 --> 00:39:52,522
They said it happened
in Kelowna, in the fall
823
00:39:52,724 --> 00:39:56,059
and you were with Ryan
when it happened.
824
00:39:56,261 --> 00:39:58,728
Only two of the details
are real:
825
00:39:58,930 --> 00:40:02,799
the name of the best friend and
the place she lived at the time.
826
00:40:03,001 --> 00:40:05,235
The rest is made up.
827
00:40:05,437 --> 00:40:07,270
Honestly, I don't remember.
828
00:40:07,472 --> 00:40:10,140
Like I don't know what
you're talking about.
829
00:40:10,342 --> 00:40:12,342
I don't.. I feel like...
I don't think
830
00:40:12,544 --> 00:40:15,445
I've ever been
in a fight.
831
00:40:15,647 --> 00:40:18,114
I'm so confused.
832
00:40:18,316 --> 00:40:21,084
NARRATOR:
Shaw then turns to a series
of cognitive techniques
833
00:40:21,286 --> 00:40:23,386
known to induce false memories,
834
00:40:23,588 --> 00:40:26,122
starting with
an imagination exercise.
835
00:40:26,324 --> 00:40:28,191
I'd like you to relax,
close your eyes
836
00:40:28,393 --> 00:40:30,260
and focus your attention on
trying to retrieve this memory.
837
00:40:30,462 --> 00:40:31,861
Okay.
838
00:40:32,063 --> 00:40:33,163
NARRATOR:
Bolstered with
a little social pressure...
839
00:40:33,365 --> 00:40:34,397
This might seem
a bit strange,
840
00:40:34,599 --> 00:40:35,832
but it does work
for most people.
841
00:40:36,034 --> 00:40:37,300
Okay.
842
00:40:37,502 --> 00:40:38,835
Subtly introducing this notion
843
00:40:39,037 --> 00:40:42,005
that "it works for most people
if they try hard enough,"
844
00:40:42,207 --> 00:40:44,507
which is a subtle form
of social manipulation.
845
00:40:44,709 --> 00:40:47,744
NARRATOR:
And ask the participant
to visualize certain details
846
00:40:47,946 --> 00:40:49,913
of the stories.
847
00:40:50,115 --> 00:40:51,881
Introducing things that are easy
to picture first.
848
00:40:52,083 --> 00:40:54,217
Picture yourself
at the age of 14.
849
00:40:54,419 --> 00:40:55,985
"Picture yourself
at the age of 14."
850
00:40:56,188 --> 00:40:57,420
That's an easy thing
to picture.
851
00:40:57,622 --> 00:40:58,955
In Kelowna.
852
00:40:59,157 --> 00:41:02,358
In Kelowna, the place that
she lived at the age.
853
00:41:02,561 --> 00:41:03,793
Also easy to picture.
854
00:41:03,995 --> 00:41:05,128
And it's fall.
855
00:41:05,330 --> 00:41:07,096
It's fall,
everybody can picture fall.
856
00:41:07,299 --> 00:41:08,932
And you were with Ryan
when it happened.
857
00:41:12,838 --> 00:41:14,871
When people imagine events
that might have occurred
858
00:41:15,073 --> 00:41:18,408
in their past, we know
that that's a potent way
859
00:41:18,610 --> 00:41:20,109
of creating a false memory.
860
00:41:20,312 --> 00:41:23,046
NARRATOR:
After giving the memory
a week to set,
861
00:41:23,248 --> 00:41:25,181
she brings the participant back.
862
00:41:25,383 --> 00:41:28,551
Okay,
so, welcome back.
863
00:41:28,753 --> 00:41:30,820
And so by the time we get
to interview number two,
864
00:41:31,022 --> 00:41:31,888
we're seeing a different story.
865
00:41:33,225 --> 00:41:36,826
I remember, like,
a verbal fight and maybe I...
866
00:41:41,366 --> 00:41:44,467
It seems so unlike...
but maybe I pushed or something?
867
00:41:44,669 --> 00:41:46,002
Good, okay.
868
00:41:46,204 --> 00:41:50,807
So this is where she's first
fully buying into this idea
869
00:41:51,009 --> 00:41:52,275
that she's actually had a fight.
870
00:41:52,477 --> 00:41:54,244
I feel like
she pushed me first.
871
00:41:54,446 --> 00:41:56,112
Okay.
872
00:41:56,314 --> 00:41:58,948
SHAW:
And this person
is starting to picture
873
00:41:59,150 --> 00:42:00,316
how it could have happened.
874
00:42:00,519 --> 00:42:01,718
And "what could have been"
875
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,152
turns into
"what would have been"
876
00:42:03,355 --> 00:42:04,921
turns into "what was."
877
00:42:05,123 --> 00:42:08,258
NARRATOR:
So by the third interview,
the memory has taken hold.
878
00:42:08,460 --> 00:42:11,895
I think the cops showed up,
d we were kind of having
879
00:42:12,097 --> 00:42:15,532
a... maybe like a verbal
kind of fight
880
00:42:15,734 --> 00:42:18,334
and then it kind of maybe got
into a push.
881
00:42:21,306 --> 00:42:23,473
NARRATOR:
And it wasn't just this once.
882
00:42:23,675 --> 00:42:25,041
Shaw was able to convince
883
00:42:25,243 --> 00:42:29,178
over 70% of participants
that they committed a crime.
884
00:42:29,381 --> 00:42:30,780
I think I just lost it.
885
00:42:30,982 --> 00:42:32,615
Couldn't take it anymore.
886
00:42:32,817 --> 00:42:36,219
I was incredibly surprised
at the rate that I had
887
00:42:36,421 --> 00:42:39,022
in terms of successfully
implanting these false memories.
888
00:42:39,224 --> 00:42:40,723
You physically feel
things about it?
889
00:42:40,926 --> 00:42:42,892
(quietly): Yes.
890
00:42:43,094 --> 00:42:47,063
And yet there we were,
and they just kept coming
891
00:42:47,265 --> 00:42:48,898
and coming and coming.
892
00:42:49,100 --> 00:42:53,136
NARRATOR:
So much so, Shaw's team
cut the study short.
893
00:42:53,338 --> 00:42:56,139
So this is
a false memory study.
894
00:42:56,341 --> 00:42:58,541
(laughing):
I'm so embarrassed.
895
00:42:58,743 --> 00:43:02,745
NARRATOR:
And the ramifications go way
beyond fooling college students.
896
00:43:02,948 --> 00:43:04,480
False memory studies like this
897
00:43:04,683 --> 00:43:06,115
question
one of the cornerstones
898
00:43:06,318 --> 00:43:08,318
of the criminal justice system.
899
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:14,324
LOFTUS:
In those hundreds of cases
where DNA testing has proven
900
00:43:14,526 --> 00:43:18,428
that these individuals
were wrongly convicted,
901
00:43:18,630 --> 00:43:22,165
about three-quarters of the time
the convictions were based
902
00:43:22,367 --> 00:43:24,400
on faulty eye witness testimony.
903
00:43:25,937 --> 00:43:29,439
NARRATOR:
So if our memories are
more malleable than we think,
904
00:43:29,641 --> 00:43:34,277
and we can change them, even
erase some of them, what's next?
905
00:43:36,715 --> 00:43:39,649
Will there ever be a day when
at just the push of a button,
906
00:43:39,851 --> 00:43:43,453
we can implant or edit
specific memories at will?
907
00:43:43,655 --> 00:43:44,654
Is this your first trip?
908
00:43:44,856 --> 00:43:46,255
NARRATOR:
Like in the movies?
909
00:43:48,193 --> 00:43:49,792
The seed that we plant
in this man's mind
910
00:43:49,995 --> 00:43:51,094
will grow into an idea.
911
00:43:51,296 --> 00:43:52,996
This idea will define him.
912
00:43:53,198 --> 00:43:54,998
It may come to change...
913
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,233
well, it may come to change
everything about him.
914
00:43:57,435 --> 00:44:00,670
Movies like Inception,Total Recall, Eternal Sunshine,
915
00:44:00,872 --> 00:44:03,106
of course they're possible.
916
00:44:03,308 --> 00:44:07,877
If mice had Hollywood, then it's
possible in practice right now.
917
00:44:09,547 --> 00:44:11,948
NARRATOR:
In fact, here
at Columbia University,
918
00:44:12,150 --> 00:44:15,284
Christine Denny is one of
a handful of neuroscientists
919
00:44:15,487 --> 00:44:17,887
who can do just that.
920
00:44:18,089 --> 00:44:20,323
CHRISTINE DENNY:
It does seem like
science fiction.
921
00:44:20,525 --> 00:44:22,625
But we are really doing
Inception in our lab
922
00:44:22,827 --> 00:44:24,427
with turning on and off
memories.
923
00:44:26,031 --> 00:44:29,565
NARRATOR:
It's called optogenetics,
a technique so revolutionary
924
00:44:29,768 --> 00:44:32,235
it allows us not only
to map a specific memory,
925
00:44:32,437 --> 00:44:36,372
but manipulate it with lasers.
926
00:44:36,574 --> 00:44:38,541
At least in these little guys.
927
00:44:38,743 --> 00:44:42,412
These mice might not
look so special.
928
00:44:42,614 --> 00:44:46,683
You could not tell my mice apart
from a mouse on the street
929
00:44:46,885 --> 00:44:49,352
or wherever you would go
to a pet store and buy a mouse.
930
00:44:49,554 --> 00:44:50,887
They don't look any different.
931
00:44:51,089 --> 00:44:52,822
NARRATOR:
But they are.
932
00:44:53,024 --> 00:44:55,491
These are genetically
modified mice
933
00:44:55,694 --> 00:44:57,894
that allow Denny to record
specific memories
934
00:44:58,096 --> 00:45:00,430
and turn them on and off
at will.
935
00:45:00,632 --> 00:45:02,799
To demonstrate,
she starts by putting a mouse
936
00:45:03,001 --> 00:45:04,400
in a new environment.
937
00:45:04,602 --> 00:45:08,771
DENNY:
You can see that the mouse
is just sitting here
938
00:45:08,973 --> 00:45:10,206
in the corner, freezing.
939
00:45:12,744 --> 00:45:14,343
Basically scared
of the environment.
940
00:45:14,546 --> 00:45:15,945
NARRATOR:
That's because it's bright.
941
00:45:16,147 --> 00:45:18,147
There's no place to hide.
942
00:45:18,349 --> 00:45:20,783
But the goal isn't
to frighten mice.
943
00:45:20,985 --> 00:45:23,119
She wants to see
if she can override this fear
944
00:45:23,321 --> 00:45:27,523
by playing back a happy memory
she recorded yesterday.
945
00:45:27,726 --> 00:45:30,660
What we did is labeled
a positive memory
946
00:45:30,862 --> 00:45:32,729
in the brains of these mice.
947
00:45:34,833 --> 00:45:37,934
NARRATOR:
Yesterday this same mouse
got to explore the kind of place
948
00:45:38,136 --> 00:45:41,504
it naturally likes: dimly lit,
full of soft bedding,
949
00:45:41,706 --> 00:45:44,173
with a nice place to hide.
950
00:45:44,375 --> 00:45:47,076
And while he was
scurrying around, Denny recorded
951
00:45:47,278 --> 00:45:50,213
the exact neurons that fired
when he made a memory
952
00:45:50,415 --> 00:45:52,148
of that pleasant place.
953
00:45:52,350 --> 00:45:54,917
DENNY:
The cells that are labeled
here in green,
954
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,788
when I turn on the laser, those
cells will turn on the memory.
955
00:45:58,990 --> 00:46:00,456
NARRATOR:
But how?
956
00:46:00,658 --> 00:46:04,193
How do you record
a specific memory?
957
00:46:04,395 --> 00:46:07,330
And how do you get brain cells
to respond to light?
958
00:46:07,532 --> 00:46:11,501
Here's where the sci-fi wizardry
comes in.
959
00:46:11,703 --> 00:46:16,706
We genetically engineered mice
so that we can permanently label
960
00:46:16,908 --> 00:46:18,541
an individual memory.
961
00:46:18,743 --> 00:46:22,078
NARRATOR:
The key is this mouse's
special genome.
962
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,681
It's bred to carry a piece
of DNA from algae
963
00:46:25,884 --> 00:46:29,585
that has the code for
a light-sensitive protein.
964
00:46:29,788 --> 00:46:34,490
In nature, that protein allows
the algae to respond to light.
965
00:46:34,692 --> 00:46:37,460
In Denny's mice,
it just sits there quietly
966
00:46:37,662 --> 00:46:42,064
in the mouse's genome,
not doing anything until...
967
00:46:42,267 --> 00:46:45,067
When you inject a drug
right before you expose them
968
00:46:45,270 --> 00:46:47,003
to this positive experience.
969
00:46:47,205 --> 00:46:50,439
NARRATOR:
The drug switches that gene on,
telling any brain cells
970
00:46:50,642 --> 00:46:52,208
that fire within the hour
971
00:46:52,410 --> 00:46:56,345
to install this light-sensitive
protein on their surfaces.
972
00:46:56,548 --> 00:46:59,549
As the mouse is exploring
a pleasant environment,
973
00:46:59,751 --> 00:47:02,919
any neurons that fire will leave
a footprint of the memory
974
00:47:03,121 --> 00:47:05,021
in the mouse's brain.
975
00:47:05,223 --> 00:47:07,223
After the drug wears off,
976
00:47:07,425 --> 00:47:10,827
only those cells
will respond to light.
977
00:47:11,029 --> 00:47:11,894
Meaning:
978
00:47:12,096 --> 00:47:13,930
It's basically like a switch.
979
00:47:14,132 --> 00:47:18,267
So what you can then do is use
a laser to control these cells.
980
00:47:18,469 --> 00:47:21,370
NARRATOR:
These tiny fiber optics
can shine light
981
00:47:21,573 --> 00:47:24,273
directly into the mouse's brain.
982
00:47:24,475 --> 00:47:27,944
And what we're going to try to
do now is to turn on these cells
983
00:47:28,146 --> 00:47:29,979
that we've labeled
with a positive memory.
984
00:47:30,181 --> 00:47:33,783
NARRATOR:
Right now the mouse is scared,
but if Denny is right,
985
00:47:33,985 --> 00:47:37,553
the laser should activate the
exact same neurons that fired
986
00:47:37,755 --> 00:47:40,256
when the mouse was making
a happy memory,
987
00:47:40,458 --> 00:47:44,293
effectively causing it to relive
that positive experience.
988
00:47:44,495 --> 00:47:46,429
Okay, so watch now what happens
989
00:47:46,631 --> 00:47:48,331
when I'm going to turn
this laser on.
990
00:48:00,879 --> 00:48:02,645
You can see that
the animal's actually smelling,
991
00:48:02,847 --> 00:48:07,250
grooming himself, which is
a sign that he feels safe.
992
00:48:07,452 --> 00:48:08,918
NARRATOR:
But turn the laser off...
993
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,121
DENNY:
And you can see that the animal
is resuming its behavior
994
00:48:12,323 --> 00:48:13,723
of freezing in the corner.
995
00:48:13,925 --> 00:48:16,759
NARRATOR:
Denny can now trigger
this memory at will.
996
00:48:16,961 --> 00:48:18,961
On.
997
00:48:19,163 --> 00:48:19,629
Off.
998
00:48:23,401 --> 00:48:26,002
I think the first time we did
it, we didn't believe it.
999
00:48:26,204 --> 00:48:30,506
But when you see inside
of the brains of these mice
1000
00:48:30,708 --> 00:48:34,510
and then to think that you're
only manipulating those cells
1001
00:48:34,712 --> 00:48:37,613
and changing the behavioral
output of the animal,
1002
00:48:37,815 --> 00:48:39,682
that's... yeah, science fiction.
1003
00:48:39,884 --> 00:48:41,484
SCHACTER:
This is potentially
1004
00:48:41,686 --> 00:48:43,352
one of the most important
new developments
1005
00:48:43,554 --> 00:48:46,789
in memory research because
it suggests a level
1006
00:48:46,991 --> 00:48:50,293
and precision of control
over memory that we've really
1007
00:48:50,495 --> 00:48:51,928
never seen before.
1008
00:48:52,130 --> 00:48:54,397
NARRATOR:
A degree of precision
many scientists think
1009
00:48:54,599 --> 00:48:57,833
we might have
over our memories some day.
1010
00:48:58,036 --> 00:48:59,468
RAMIREZ:
I think that it's a matter
1011
00:48:59,671 --> 00:49:00,703
of when this happens,
1012
00:49:00,905 --> 00:49:03,406
not a matter of
if it'll happen in people.
1013
00:49:03,608 --> 00:49:05,041
NARRATOR:
Which raises the question,
1014
00:49:05,243 --> 00:49:09,145
if by a flick of a switch we
could edit that first kiss
1015
00:49:09,347 --> 00:49:13,883
or erase that argument
with a spouse,
1016
00:49:14,085 --> 00:49:15,484
would we want to?
1017
00:49:15,687 --> 00:49:19,121
What scientists now
are starting to realize is
1018
00:49:19,324 --> 00:49:22,692
that we can modify memories
in some remarkable ways.
1019
00:49:22,894 --> 00:49:25,528
How do we think about that?
1020
00:49:25,730 --> 00:49:29,165
By starting to manipulate
those memories,
1021
00:49:29,367 --> 00:49:31,834
are we suggesting that
evolution got it wrong?
1022
00:49:34,138 --> 00:49:35,671
NARRATOR:
Could it be possible
1023
00:49:35,873 --> 00:49:39,842
that our memories are built
the way they are for a reason?
1024
00:49:40,044 --> 00:49:45,147
Why would we be constructed
with a memory system
1025
00:49:45,350 --> 00:49:49,285
that is so potentially open
to suggestion and change?
1026
00:49:49,487 --> 00:49:52,088
NARRATOR:
Perhaps Jake,
the 11-year-old boy
1027
00:49:52,290 --> 00:49:53,656
with the amazing memory,
1028
00:49:53,858 --> 00:49:55,825
can help answer that question
one day.
1029
00:49:57,362 --> 00:50:00,997
After months of scans,
scientists are still searching
1030
00:50:01,199 --> 00:50:03,399
for something to explain
his extraordinary ability.
1031
00:50:05,603 --> 00:50:07,303
But even if they don't
find anything,
1032
00:50:07,505 --> 00:50:09,138
that's an important clue.
1033
00:50:09,340 --> 00:50:11,974
DOSENBACH:
Jake's already telling us
something about our memories,
1034
00:50:12,176 --> 00:50:16,445
namely that the human brain has
the capability to remember
1035
00:50:16,647 --> 00:50:19,081
your entire life
in great detail.
1036
00:50:19,283 --> 00:50:21,717
It's a fascinating question
of, why don't we?
1037
00:50:22,820 --> 00:50:25,888
NARRATOR:
Consider Jake.
1038
00:50:26,090 --> 00:50:28,224
Though he and other HSAMs love
having their special memories,
1039
00:50:28,426 --> 00:50:32,695
even at his young age, he is
aware that it comes at a price.
1040
00:50:32,897 --> 00:50:33,929
JAKE:
Just like to everything,
1041
00:50:34,132 --> 00:50:36,065
there's an upside
and there's a downside.
1042
00:50:36,267 --> 00:50:37,933
The downside is you can remember
every bad thing
1043
00:50:38,136 --> 00:50:39,301
that happens to you.
1044
00:50:39,504 --> 00:50:41,837
McCAUGH:
They live in different worlds
1045
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,840
than the worlds
that you and I live in.
1046
00:50:45,043 --> 00:50:46,909
And you have to wonder, would
you like to live in that world?
1047
00:50:48,780 --> 00:50:52,615
NARRATOR:
A world where you can't forget.
1048
00:50:52,817 --> 00:50:55,384
Forgetting is probably
one of the most important things
1049
00:50:55,586 --> 00:50:57,119
that brains will do.
1050
00:50:57,321 --> 00:51:00,856
Perhaps evolution was smart
enough to design a system
1051
00:51:01,059 --> 00:51:03,659
that stores only stuff
that's important.
1052
00:51:05,596 --> 00:51:09,031
NARRATOR:
Could it be that what we think
of as memory's flaws
1053
00:51:09,233 --> 00:51:11,901
are actually part
of its strength?
1054
00:51:12,103 --> 00:51:16,405
MARTIN:
Maybe we have a misconception of
what the purpose of memory is.
1055
00:51:16,607 --> 00:51:19,175
That we think of it more
as an accurate recording
1056
00:51:19,377 --> 00:51:24,547
of past experiences
as opposed to a creative process
1057
00:51:24,749 --> 00:51:28,050
of combining our experiences
over time.
1058
00:51:28,252 --> 00:51:31,720
WALKER:
Perhaps the ultimate goal
of memory is not to retain
1059
00:51:31,923 --> 00:51:35,658
every single fact
that you've learned.
1060
00:51:35,860 --> 00:51:39,328
If you had just this picture-
perfect back catalogue
1061
00:51:39,530 --> 00:51:43,399
of 30, 40, 50, 60 years
of experience,
1062
00:51:43,601 --> 00:51:45,901
imagine how hard it would be
to pick out
1063
00:51:46,104 --> 00:51:48,637
the individual specific
experiences that you need
1064
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,339
at any one moment
1065
00:51:50,541 --> 00:51:53,576
against the backdrop
of that sea of noise.
1066
00:51:56,814 --> 00:52:00,649
NARRATOR:
Somehow this complex
choreography of single cells
1067
00:52:00,852 --> 00:52:02,918
adds up to our memory,
1068
00:52:03,121 --> 00:52:07,223
a mysterious system that allows
us to time-travel to the past
1069
00:52:07,425 --> 00:52:09,125
and imagine our future.
1070
00:52:09,327 --> 00:52:11,760
But perhaps memory's
ultimate gift
1071
00:52:11,963 --> 00:52:14,497
is a way to navigate
that sea of noise
1072
00:52:14,699 --> 00:52:16,632
so we can pick out
the experiences
1073
00:52:16,834 --> 00:52:22,004
that each of us weave together
to tell the story of our lives.
1074
00:52:31,249 --> 00:52:33,482
The investigation
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1075
00:52:33,684 --> 00:52:36,218
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1076
00:52:36,420 --> 00:52:39,155
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1077
00:52:39,357 --> 00:52:40,823
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1078
00:52:41,025 --> 00:52:42,992
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1079
00:52:43,194 --> 00:52:45,427
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Andre Fenton does
1080
00:52:45,630 --> 00:52:46,829
when he's not in the lab
1081
00:52:47,031 --> 00:52:49,031
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1082
00:52:49,233 --> 00:52:52,034
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1083
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1084
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1085
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1086
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