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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,803 --> 00:00:04,236 NARRATOR: Memory-- it's the key to our identity. 2 00:00:04,438 --> 00:00:06,271 Without memory, we're nothing. 3 00:00:06,474 --> 00:00:07,539 It's who we are. 4 00:00:07,742 --> 00:00:10,376 NARRATOR: But how does it actually work? 5 00:00:10,578 --> 00:00:11,944 It's a huge mystery. 6 00:00:12,146 --> 00:00:13,879 NARRATOR: Today, scientists are probing our brains 7 00:00:14,081 --> 00:00:15,581 like never before. 8 00:00:15,783 --> 00:00:18,751 We're seeing a memory being formed in front of your eyes. 9 00:00:18,953 --> 00:00:23,022 NARRATOR: Finding clues that lead us to shocking new places. 10 00:00:23,224 --> 00:00:25,157 Your memory's not as accurate as you think it is. 11 00:00:25,359 --> 00:00:27,626 We can tinker with a specific memory at will. 12 00:00:27,828 --> 00:00:29,528 Perhaps Mother Nature 13 00:00:29,730 --> 00:00:31,330 needs a little bit of tweaking on the dial. 14 00:00:31,532 --> 00:00:33,832 NARRATOR: From editing memories... 15 00:00:34,035 --> 00:00:35,734 We can implant a false memory. 16 00:00:35,936 --> 00:00:38,437 NARRATOR: ...to deleting our worst fears. 17 00:00:38,639 --> 00:00:39,571 It was unbelievable. 18 00:00:40,975 --> 00:00:42,207 I was standing there like, "How can this be possible? 19 00:00:42,410 --> 00:00:44,710 I used to be terrified of spiders." 20 00:00:44,912 --> 00:00:49,748 We target and even erase the fear memory itself. 21 00:00:49,950 --> 00:00:53,552 NARRATOR: Are we approaching the day where at the flick of a switch, 22 00:00:53,754 --> 00:00:55,954 we can rewrite our past? 23 00:00:56,157 --> 00:01:00,225 Being able to use new technologies to edit memories 24 00:01:00,428 --> 00:01:03,262 is frightening. 25 00:01:03,464 --> 00:01:06,265 I think that it's a matter of when this happens, 26 00:01:06,467 --> 00:01:07,966 not a matter of if it'll happen. 27 00:01:08,169 --> 00:01:11,537 NARRATOR: "Memory Hackers," right now on NOVA. 28 00:01:27,054 --> 00:01:29,888 Major funding for NOVA is provided by the following... 29 00:01:32,393 --> 00:01:34,560 We love science. 30 00:01:34,762 --> 00:01:38,730 Supporting NOVA and promoting public understanding of science. 31 00:01:41,368 --> 00:01:43,802 And the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. 32 00:01:44,004 --> 00:01:46,004 And by PBS viewers like you. Thank you. 33 00:01:46,207 --> 00:01:48,507 And the George D. Smith Fund. 34 00:01:52,113 --> 00:01:54,279 I remember... 35 00:01:55,516 --> 00:01:56,815 I remember... 36 00:01:58,719 --> 00:01:59,618 I remember... 37 00:02:01,489 --> 00:02:02,354 I remember... 38 00:02:04,258 --> 00:02:05,457 Hmm... 39 00:02:07,061 --> 00:02:08,293 NARRATOR: Memory. 40 00:02:08,496 --> 00:02:10,429 We know it as a record of our lives: 41 00:02:10,631 --> 00:02:13,298 how to find our keys or recite facts from school. 42 00:02:13,501 --> 00:02:15,567 But stop and think about it. 43 00:02:15,769 --> 00:02:18,203 It's so much more. 44 00:02:18,405 --> 00:02:20,405 From your earliest memory... 45 00:02:20,608 --> 00:02:23,842 Falling off of a horse at about five years old. 46 00:02:24,044 --> 00:02:26,478 When I walked into kindergarten and I met my best friend. 47 00:02:29,450 --> 00:02:35,187 About 1925, we moved to 513 Spring Avenue. 48 00:02:35,389 --> 00:02:37,923 NARRATOR: Your happiest... 49 00:02:38,125 --> 00:02:39,291 When my daughter was born. 50 00:02:39,493 --> 00:02:41,093 When she, like, came out. 51 00:02:41,295 --> 00:02:43,028 Seeing a real life human being 52 00:02:43,230 --> 00:02:45,731 breathe that first breath of fresh air. 53 00:02:45,933 --> 00:02:47,566 NARRATOR: Or saddest... 54 00:02:47,768 --> 00:02:51,003 The death of my father. 55 00:02:51,205 --> 00:02:53,605 NARRATOR: We are little but the sum of our memories. 56 00:02:53,807 --> 00:02:54,873 DANIELA SCHILLER: It's who we are. 57 00:02:55,075 --> 00:02:57,876 That's how we understand ourselves and our lives. 58 00:02:58,078 --> 00:03:03,549 NARRATOR: Consider for a moment just how vivid a memory can be. 59 00:03:03,751 --> 00:03:05,417 The smells, the sounds... 60 00:03:05,619 --> 00:03:08,153 I know the shoes, the socks, the pants and shirt I wore. 61 00:03:08,355 --> 00:03:10,189 It was like it happened yesterday. 62 00:03:10,391 --> 00:03:11,757 I do have a picture in my head. 63 00:03:11,959 --> 00:03:13,292 I can see it! 64 00:03:17,798 --> 00:03:20,465 That is a remarkably complex computational process 65 00:03:20,668 --> 00:03:22,201 that memory achieved 66 00:03:22,403 --> 00:03:23,635 within milliseconds. 67 00:03:25,239 --> 00:03:27,606 What an incredible, powerful gift. 68 00:03:27,808 --> 00:03:30,142 NARRATOR: How is this gift possible? 69 00:03:30,344 --> 00:03:32,477 How does the world get into our heads 70 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,780 and turn into a memory? 71 00:03:34,982 --> 00:03:36,448 How does memory actually work? 72 00:03:36,650 --> 00:03:38,617 Wow. 73 00:03:38,819 --> 00:03:41,787 NARRATOR: Turns out that's one of the biggest mysteries 74 00:03:41,989 --> 00:03:44,122 in science today. 75 00:03:44,325 --> 00:03:45,791 If you go and ask most people, 76 00:03:45,993 --> 00:03:47,960 they would say they understand memory, 77 00:03:48,162 --> 00:03:50,629 but the truth is really rather far from that. 78 00:03:50,831 --> 00:03:53,065 We sort of understand the tip of the iceberg. 79 00:03:53,267 --> 00:03:55,801 RODDY ROEDIGER: We're just kind of nibbling around 80 00:03:56,003 --> 00:03:58,203 the big central mystery of memory: 81 00:03:58,405 --> 00:04:00,339 how do I bring back in time now 82 00:04:00,541 --> 00:04:02,241 something that happened to me long ago? 83 00:04:02,443 --> 00:04:04,810 It's a very difficult problem that we haven't solved. 84 00:04:05,012 --> 00:04:07,646 SCHILLER: Memory is the biggest mystery. 85 00:04:07,848 --> 00:04:10,349 It's as big as the question of, "What is the universe? 86 00:04:10,551 --> 00:04:11,683 Why are we here?" 87 00:04:17,992 --> 00:04:20,225 NARRATOR: Could this 11-year-old boy 88 00:04:20,427 --> 00:04:24,062 hold one of the keys to unlocking the mystery? 89 00:04:24,265 --> 00:04:25,497 On first glance, 90 00:04:25,699 --> 00:04:29,034 Jake Hausler looks like a normal fifth grader, 91 00:04:29,236 --> 00:04:33,071 but as Washington University's Roddy Roediger is discovering, 92 00:04:33,274 --> 00:04:35,807 he seems to be anything but. 93 00:04:36,010 --> 00:04:38,744 ROEDIGER: What happened Friday, October 28, 2011? 94 00:04:38,946 --> 00:04:40,045 World Series game seven. 95 00:04:40,247 --> 00:04:41,980 Cardinals won 6-2. 96 00:04:42,182 --> 00:04:43,749 Who were the pitchers for the teams? 97 00:04:43,951 --> 00:04:46,685 Chris Carpenter for St. Louis, Matt Harrison for the Rangers. 98 00:04:49,657 --> 00:04:52,591 ANNOUNCER: The World Champs in 2011! 99 00:04:52,793 --> 00:04:55,294 We're just getting to know Jake and just starting to study him. 100 00:04:55,496 --> 00:04:59,431 He's obviously a very bright kid 101 00:04:59,633 --> 00:05:01,800 with a different kind of very powerful memory. 102 00:05:02,002 --> 00:05:04,202 Let's try a different day here. 103 00:05:04,405 --> 00:05:08,206 How about May 4, 2013? 104 00:05:08,409 --> 00:05:12,177 That was a Saturday, 105 00:05:12,379 --> 00:05:15,380 and I saw Iron Man 3. 106 00:05:16,984 --> 00:05:19,985 He appears to have a pretty unique ability. 107 00:05:20,187 --> 00:05:24,556 So he can tell you what he did years ago to this date, 108 00:05:24,758 --> 00:05:27,292 and that's very, very unusual, in and of itself, 109 00:05:27,494 --> 00:05:30,295 and to find it in a child is particularly unusual. 110 00:05:30,497 --> 00:05:32,898 When was Osama bin Laden killed? 111 00:05:33,100 --> 00:05:36,401 May 2, 2011 in Pakistan, 112 00:05:36,603 --> 00:05:39,771 May 1, 2011 in U.S.A. 113 00:05:42,242 --> 00:05:43,508 ROEDIGER: I mean, it's amazing. 114 00:05:43,711 --> 00:05:47,612 I've never felt like my memory was particularly bad, 115 00:05:47,815 --> 00:05:50,482 but compared to Jake's, clearly it is. 116 00:05:50,684 --> 00:05:53,018 It's just a mystery as to what's going on here. 117 00:05:53,220 --> 00:05:54,519 NARRATOR: Jake can remember details 118 00:05:54,722 --> 00:05:58,357 from almost every day of his life since age seven. 119 00:05:58,559 --> 00:06:00,225 Once he started speaking, really, 120 00:06:00,427 --> 00:06:01,960 we noticed he was different. 121 00:06:02,162 --> 00:06:03,862 MOM: What are the 13 colonies? 122 00:06:04,064 --> 00:06:07,933 Georgia, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Maryland... 123 00:06:08,135 --> 00:06:11,737 DAD: I remember taking him to the grocery store one time 124 00:06:11,939 --> 00:06:14,740 and he knew where all the items were by aisle. 125 00:06:14,942 --> 00:06:17,642 It's a little bit like having a computer living with you. 126 00:06:20,881 --> 00:06:24,783 NARRATOR: We'd all remember getting a pet, but the exact date? 127 00:06:24,985 --> 00:06:27,219 DAD: What day did I pick up Gracie in Wisconsin? 128 00:06:27,421 --> 00:06:29,154 March 31. 129 00:06:29,356 --> 00:06:30,522 Where did I fly into? 130 00:06:30,724 --> 00:06:32,391 Minneapolis/St. Paul. 131 00:06:32,593 --> 00:06:34,993 What did I eat for dinner the night I was in Wisconsin? 132 00:06:35,195 --> 00:06:36,595 Cheese curds? 133 00:06:36,797 --> 00:06:38,096 That is correct. 134 00:06:38,298 --> 00:06:40,132 (laughing) 135 00:06:40,334 --> 00:06:41,933 There's no doubt that 136 00:06:42,136 --> 00:06:43,735 there's something different going on there. 137 00:06:43,937 --> 00:06:46,638 NARRATOR: What's different about Jake is that he has HSAM: 138 00:06:46,840 --> 00:06:50,409 Highly Superior Autobiographical Memory. 139 00:06:50,611 --> 00:06:54,012 Highly Superior, you can remember days from your life 140 00:06:54,214 --> 00:06:57,783 in lots of detail, like what day of the week was it, 141 00:06:57,985 --> 00:07:00,185 and you can't forget. 142 00:07:00,387 --> 00:07:02,454 What about 2004? 143 00:07:02,656 --> 00:07:05,557 NARRATOR: Jim McGaugh is a pioneer in the science of memory. 144 00:07:05,759 --> 00:07:08,760 He discovered HSAM 15 years ago. 145 00:07:08,962 --> 00:07:10,429 McGAUGH: And when did you meet with me? 146 00:07:10,631 --> 00:07:12,664 June 28, 2008. 147 00:07:12,866 --> 00:07:15,801 NARRATOR: So far, out of the several thousand tested, 148 00:07:16,003 --> 00:07:20,138 he's discovered 55 adults who have this amazing ability. 149 00:07:20,340 --> 00:07:24,643 A Saturday at Panera Bread in Newport Beach. 150 00:07:24,845 --> 00:07:28,146 McGAUGH: I can give them any date, say ten years ago, 151 00:07:28,348 --> 00:07:30,482 five years ago, 20 years ago, and so on. 152 00:07:30,684 --> 00:07:32,184 Do you know when Elvis Presley died? 153 00:07:32,386 --> 00:07:34,186 August 16, '77. 154 00:07:34,388 --> 00:07:38,223 And their performance will be at least 80% correct, 155 00:07:38,425 --> 00:07:40,358 and maybe 100% correct, 156 00:07:40,561 --> 00:07:42,594 depending upon the particular individual. 157 00:07:42,796 --> 00:07:45,363 NARRATOR: One of the best memories McGaugh has ever tested 158 00:07:45,566 --> 00:07:47,666 belongs to someone you might recognize: 159 00:07:47,868 --> 00:07:51,403 actress Marilu Henner from the hit show Taxi. 160 00:07:51,605 --> 00:07:52,737 I knew as a very young child 161 00:07:52,940 --> 00:07:54,439 that I had a very unusual memory. 162 00:07:54,641 --> 00:07:57,709 They called me Miss Memory, Miss UNIVAC, The Memory Kid, 163 00:07:57,911 --> 00:07:59,311 things like that. 164 00:07:59,513 --> 00:08:01,746 NARRATOR: Name-calling aside, they're not geniuses. 165 00:08:01,949 --> 00:08:04,483 In fact, on average, they have normal IQs. 166 00:08:04,685 --> 00:08:07,819 They are not superior in other forms of learning, 167 00:08:08,021 --> 00:08:09,321 like book learning, 168 00:08:09,523 --> 00:08:11,957 standard laboratory learning tasks, and so on. 169 00:08:12,159 --> 00:08:13,492 I think a misconception, 170 00:08:13,694 --> 00:08:15,160 as you probably know, that people have, 171 00:08:15,362 --> 00:08:18,096 they think it's some type of autistic savant thing, 172 00:08:18,298 --> 00:08:22,334 that we're using some type of mathematical calculation 173 00:08:22,536 --> 00:08:24,803 like in Rain Man. 174 00:08:25,005 --> 00:08:26,938 Yeah, defitely not Rain Man. 175 00:08:27,140 --> 00:08:31,576 NARRATOR: So what gives them this amazing ability? 176 00:08:31,778 --> 00:08:34,346 McGaugh has scanned over a dozen HSAMs 177 00:08:34,548 --> 00:08:36,515 and found some intriguing hints. 178 00:08:36,717 --> 00:08:39,651 For example, an area in the brain 179 00:08:39,853 --> 00:08:42,787 associated with memory-- the uncinate fasciculus-- 180 00:08:42,990 --> 00:08:45,257 is more active in HSAMs. 181 00:08:45,459 --> 00:08:46,791 There are some differences in the brain. 182 00:08:46,994 --> 00:08:49,461 They're statistically significant, 183 00:08:49,663 --> 00:08:52,464 but they have not given us a pattern 184 00:08:52,666 --> 00:08:53,832 such that we can say, 185 00:08:54,034 --> 00:08:58,103 "This is the neurobiological basis of HSAM." 186 00:08:58,305 --> 00:09:02,073 What is it about their brains that enables this ability? 187 00:09:02,276 --> 00:09:03,608 That's the open question. 188 00:09:03,810 --> 00:09:07,679 NARRATOR: And that's where Jake comes in. 189 00:09:07,881 --> 00:09:11,082 He is the youngest person ever discovered with HSAM, 190 00:09:11,285 --> 00:09:13,618 and here at Washington University, 191 00:09:13,820 --> 00:09:17,722 scientists are mapping his brain with new imagingechnologies. 192 00:09:17,925 --> 00:09:19,524 Over the next year, 193 00:09:19,726 --> 00:09:22,594 they'll test his memory while doing hundreds of scans. 194 00:09:22,796 --> 00:09:24,262 All right, Jake, 195 00:09:24,464 --> 00:09:27,832 so what happened on April 8, 2013? 196 00:09:28,035 --> 00:09:32,437 I went to the St. Louis Zoo. 197 00:09:32,639 --> 00:09:35,106 NARRATOR: When they are finished, they will have perhaps 198 00:09:35,309 --> 00:09:39,377 the most comprehensive picture ever of a child's brain. 199 00:09:39,580 --> 00:09:41,313 McDERMOTT: We're getting loads and loads of data on him. 200 00:09:41,515 --> 00:09:42,781 It's very, very exciting. 201 00:09:42,983 --> 00:09:44,349 I mean, to do this in a normal person 202 00:09:44,551 --> 00:09:46,985 in this comprehensive a way would be really exciting, 203 00:09:47,187 --> 00:09:48,987 and to be able to do it on a child 204 00:09:49,189 --> 00:09:52,324 who has particularly unique abilities is extra special. 205 00:09:52,526 --> 00:09:55,260 NARRATOR: Then, they'll compare Jake's scans to other children's 206 00:09:55,462 --> 00:09:57,329 to see if they can unlock the secret 207 00:09:57,531 --> 00:10:00,298 of wt makes his memory so extraordinary. 208 00:10:00,500 --> 00:10:02,534 MAN: It's a chance of a lifetime. 209 00:10:02,736 --> 00:10:03,802 You can't write a grant saying 210 00:10:04,004 --> 00:10:05,503 we're gonna go look for someone like him 211 00:10:05,706 --> 00:10:07,205 because you'll never find him, right? 212 00:10:07,407 --> 00:10:10,842 NARRATOR: The hope is that this little boy's brain 213 00:10:11,044 --> 00:10:13,144 can help answer some big questions 214 00:10:13,347 --> 00:10:16,181 about how our memory works. 215 00:10:16,383 --> 00:10:18,016 Jake clearly is able to extract 216 00:10:18,218 --> 00:10:19,985 remarkable amounts of information from his brain, 217 00:10:20,187 --> 00:10:23,121 but we don't know if you or I have that information in us, 218 00:10:23,323 --> 00:10:24,623 but we just can't remember it, 219 00:10:24,825 --> 00:10:27,058 or if it just doesn't get encoded into our brain function 220 00:10:27,260 --> 00:10:28,793 in the first place. 221 00:10:28,996 --> 00:10:30,629 NARRATOR: The mystery with Jake and the other HSAMs is, 222 00:10:30,831 --> 00:10:34,065 do they actually keep more memories than the rest of us, 223 00:10:34,267 --> 00:10:37,602 or do we all have this wealth of detail 224 00:10:37,804 --> 00:10:41,506 buried deep inside our brains-- we just can't get at it? 225 00:10:41,708 --> 00:10:43,508 If we can understand how he harnesses that, 226 00:10:43,710 --> 00:10:47,212 to be able to generate that within ourselves 227 00:10:47,414 --> 00:10:48,680 could be a very powerful tool. 228 00:10:48,882 --> 00:10:51,216 McGAUGH: There is potential there 229 00:10:51,418 --> 00:10:54,786 that we will learn something truly new and important 230 00:10:54,988 --> 00:10:56,187 about the functioning 231 00:10:56,390 --> 00:10:59,290 of the most complicated and interesting known structure 232 00:10:59,493 --> 00:11:02,027 in the universe, and that's our brain. 233 00:11:02,229 --> 00:11:04,929 And the most important thing it does is learn and remember. 234 00:11:09,770 --> 00:11:13,204 NARRATOR: But what exactly is a memory? 235 00:11:13,407 --> 00:11:17,609 Amazingly, this simple question has stumped thinkers for ages. 236 00:11:17,811 --> 00:11:21,713 Until the 1950s, few clues emerged, 237 00:11:21,915 --> 00:11:25,316 and then came a single patient who would change everything. 238 00:11:25,519 --> 00:11:28,219 When I was a young researcher, 239 00:11:28,422 --> 00:11:30,889 learning was learning and memory was memory, 240 00:11:31,091 --> 00:11:33,158 and it was just, you know, a thing that happens. 241 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,695 And then along came the findings of Brenda Milner 242 00:11:36,897 --> 00:11:38,930 and her subject, HM. 243 00:11:39,132 --> 00:11:41,833 NARRATOR: HM stands for Henry Molaison, 244 00:11:42,035 --> 00:11:45,070 patient zero in the study of memory. 245 00:11:45,272 --> 00:11:47,405 After a childhood bicycle accident, 246 00:11:47,607 --> 00:11:51,643 Molaison began to suffer severe epileptic seizures. 247 00:11:51,845 --> 00:11:53,812 To try and quell those seizures, 248 00:11:54,014 --> 00:11:56,614 neurosurgeons performed an operation 249 00:11:56,817 --> 00:11:59,150 where they removed the parts of his brain 250 00:11:59,352 --> 00:12:01,753 that they thought were creating those seizures. 251 00:12:01,955 --> 00:12:03,421 NARRATOR: Much of what they removed 252 00:12:03,623 --> 00:12:05,924 came from a part of the brain called the hippocampus. 253 00:12:06,126 --> 00:12:09,928 After the surgery, his seizures were gone, 254 00:12:10,130 --> 00:12:12,497 but there was an alarming side effect. 255 00:12:12,699 --> 00:12:14,466 WALKER: From that point forward, 256 00:12:14,668 --> 00:12:17,001 he could no longer make any new memories. 257 00:12:17,204 --> 00:12:19,370 He was what we call "densely amnesic." 258 00:12:19,573 --> 00:12:23,374 NARRATOR: It could only mean one thing: 259 00:12:23,577 --> 00:12:25,944 the hippocampus must be the part of the brain 260 00:12:26,146 --> 00:12:29,647 responsible for creating new long-term memories. 261 00:12:29,850 --> 00:12:31,950 This in itself was a breakthrough, 262 00:12:32,152 --> 00:12:34,018 but that was just the start. 263 00:12:34,221 --> 00:12:36,488 BRENDA MILNER (recording): Do you know what you did yesterday? 264 00:12:36,690 --> 00:12:38,289 HM (recording): No, I don't. 265 00:12:38,492 --> 00:12:42,627 MILNER (recording): How about this morning? 266 00:12:42,829 --> 00:12:46,064 NARRATOR: Brenda Milner wanted to know, despite his amnesia, 267 00:12:46,266 --> 00:12:49,467 could he still have some form of memory? 268 00:12:49,669 --> 00:12:51,302 BRENDA MILNER: He was a very nice person. 269 00:12:51,505 --> 00:12:53,605 He was very cooperative. 270 00:12:53,807 --> 00:12:57,509 Fortunately for us, he liked doing tests, he liked puzzles. 271 00:12:57,711 --> 00:13:02,013 NARRATOR: So she came up with a puzzle to trace a star shape 272 00:13:02,215 --> 00:13:04,449 using only a mirror to see his hand. 273 00:13:04,651 --> 00:13:06,417 MILNER: If you try this, it's jolly difficult, 274 00:13:06,620 --> 00:13:11,022 but normal subjects, with practice, a few trials, 275 00:13:11,224 --> 00:13:12,957 learn to do this thing. 276 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,860 NARRATOR: Because HM appeared to have zero ability 277 00:13:16,062 --> 00:13:20,431 to make new long-term memories, he should be hopeless. 278 00:13:20,634 --> 00:13:22,033 He shouldn't be able to learn anything. 279 00:13:22,235 --> 00:13:23,401 How's he going to do? 280 00:13:23,603 --> 00:13:25,370 I didn't know, I didn't know, I had no idea. 281 00:13:25,572 --> 00:13:29,340 NARRATOR: And in fact, every time Milner asked him to train, 282 00:13:29,543 --> 00:13:32,744 he claimed he'd never done the task before. 283 00:13:32,946 --> 00:13:35,480 But his performance betrayed him. 284 00:13:35,682 --> 00:13:38,216 He got better and better, until... 285 00:13:41,087 --> 00:13:43,855 I was so excited, because this was a breakthrough. 286 00:13:44,057 --> 00:13:47,025 He can't remember the events of his life, 287 00:13:47,227 --> 00:13:51,062 but it seems that he can possibly learn motor skills. 288 00:13:51,264 --> 00:13:54,999 NARRATOR: The fact that HM could remember motor skills 289 00:13:55,202 --> 00:13:57,302 but not new events in his life 290 00:13:57,504 --> 00:14:01,573 meant that memory couldn't be just one thing. 291 00:14:01,775 --> 00:14:03,808 We had to leave behind the notion 292 00:14:04,010 --> 00:14:06,010 there was just one kind of memory. 293 00:14:06,213 --> 00:14:08,680 We now knew that there are different kinds of memory, 294 00:14:08,882 --> 00:14:10,348 and those different kinds of memories 295 00:14:10,550 --> 00:14:13,818 depend on different parts of the brain. 296 00:14:14,020 --> 00:14:16,955 NARRATOR: Knowing where memories are in the brain is one thing, 297 00:14:17,157 --> 00:14:18,957 but how do they get there? 298 00:14:19,159 --> 00:14:21,226 How does a long-term memory 299 00:14:21,428 --> 00:14:24,963 get written in the brain in the first place? 300 00:14:25,165 --> 00:14:26,931 These are the questions that have driven 301 00:14:27,133 --> 00:14:32,036 Nobel Prize-winner Eric Kandel for over 60 years. 302 00:14:32,239 --> 00:14:36,374 It all started back in Vienna on his ninth birthday. 303 00:14:36,576 --> 00:14:40,345 ERIC KANDEL: I received a marvelous little toy car 304 00:14:40,547 --> 00:14:45,216 that I drove with great pleasure through our small apartment. 305 00:14:46,987 --> 00:14:49,153 NARRATOR: Two days later was Kristallnacht, 306 00:14:49,356 --> 00:14:52,457 the infamous Night of Broken Glass. 307 00:14:52,659 --> 00:14:54,292 In that violent prelude to the Holocaust, 308 00:14:54,494 --> 00:14:57,462 thousands of Nazi soldiers stormed the Jewish neighborhoods 309 00:14:57,664 --> 00:14:58,963 in Vienna. 310 00:14:59,165 --> 00:15:00,832 KANDEL: November 9, 311 00:15:01,034 --> 00:15:06,204 there was a knock on the door, and two Nazi policemen came in 312 00:15:06,406 --> 00:15:08,873 and said, "Pack all your things." 313 00:15:12,946 --> 00:15:16,814 When we came back a week later, everything of value is gone, 314 00:15:17,017 --> 00:15:18,783 including my little toy car. 315 00:15:18,985 --> 00:15:20,551 That was a very painful experience. 316 00:15:20,754 --> 00:15:24,923 NARRATOR: A painful experience that would define his life's work. 317 00:15:25,125 --> 00:15:26,758 KANDEL: Everyone who went through the Holocaust, 318 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:28,626 there are memories that you can never forget. 319 00:15:28,828 --> 00:15:31,262 NARRATOR: Kandel wanted to know: 320 00:15:31,464 --> 00:15:33,765 how did that experience become a memory 321 00:15:33,967 --> 00:15:36,301 he would carry with him for life? 322 00:15:36,503 --> 00:15:39,704 That got me interested in psychology and psychoanalysis. 323 00:15:39,906 --> 00:15:41,739 And when I got interested in that, I said, 324 00:15:41,942 --> 00:15:44,575 "What's the central question in psychoanalysis?" 325 00:15:44,778 --> 00:15:46,244 It's memory, how we recall things. 326 00:15:46,446 --> 00:15:48,479 NARRATOR: But where to start? 327 00:15:48,682 --> 00:15:51,649 His biggest lead was Milner's early work with HM. 328 00:15:51,851 --> 00:15:56,487 The hippocampus is crucial for forming new memories. 329 00:15:56,690 --> 00:15:58,056 But how do they get there? 330 00:15:58,258 --> 00:16:02,026 Could there be a physical mechanism on the cellular level? 331 00:16:02,228 --> 00:16:03,661 KANDEL: So I thought I would record 332 00:16:03,863 --> 00:16:05,296 from single cells in the hippocampus, 333 00:16:05,498 --> 00:16:07,465 and those cells would be so unique, 334 00:16:07,667 --> 00:16:08,967 they would speak to me of memory storage. 335 00:16:09,169 --> 00:16:10,535 NARRATOR: Within months, 336 00:16:10,737 --> 00:16:14,505 he was able to record the sound of hippocampal neurons firing. 337 00:16:14,708 --> 00:16:16,174 KANDEL: Our colleagues were euphoric. 338 00:16:16,376 --> 00:16:18,710 But we didn't learn a darn thing about learning and memory. 339 00:16:18,912 --> 00:16:22,347 So I realized one needed to take a reductionist approach, 340 00:16:22,549 --> 00:16:24,182 and I thought I would use a simple animal 341 00:16:24,384 --> 00:16:26,184 with a simple nervous system, simple behavior, 342 00:16:26,386 --> 00:16:27,719 and try to study that. 343 00:16:27,921 --> 00:16:31,856 NARRATOR: Enter Aplysia Californica, a giant sea slug 344 00:16:32,058 --> 00:16:35,026 with one of the simplest nervous systems in the animal kingdom. 345 00:16:35,228 --> 00:16:38,096 KANDEL: One of the great giants in the field 346 00:16:38,298 --> 00:16:40,598 thought I was throwing my career away. 347 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,634 In my naivetรฉ, I was confident that this would be right. 348 00:16:43,837 --> 00:16:47,238 NARRATOR: He thought if he could just isolate the cellular changes 349 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,408 that occurred when Aplysia learns simple tasks, 350 00:16:50,610 --> 00:16:53,678 it would be the key to understanding our memory. 351 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,046 Humans have neurons. 352 00:16:55,248 --> 00:16:56,414 Sea slugs have neurons. 353 00:16:56,616 --> 00:16:58,216 They're not that different, right? 354 00:16:58,418 --> 00:16:59,751 Even at the level of DNA, 355 00:16:59,953 --> 00:17:02,420 our DNA's not so terribly different. 356 00:17:02,622 --> 00:17:04,922 The same fundamental kinds of changes 357 00:17:05,125 --> 00:17:08,559 should underlie memory. 358 00:17:08,762 --> 00:17:10,862 NARRATOR: To test his hypothesis, Kandel's first step 359 00:17:11,064 --> 00:17:13,865 was to create a memory in the sea slug. 360 00:17:14,067 --> 00:17:17,468 To do that, he trained it to fear a light touch. 361 00:17:17,670 --> 00:17:21,305 KANDEL: If you touch it in the siphon, it'll withdraw the siphon. 362 00:17:21,508 --> 00:17:24,375 NARRATOR: The siphon is the slug's water spout. 363 00:17:24,577 --> 00:17:27,712 When it is touched, it also withdraws its gill slightly 364 00:17:27,914 --> 00:17:29,480 as a protective reflex. 365 00:17:29,682 --> 00:17:31,249 But pair that touch... 366 00:17:31,451 --> 00:17:33,084 KANDEL: Touch, shock. 367 00:17:33,286 --> 00:17:37,455 NARRATOR: ...with a mild shock, you get a much stronger reaction. 368 00:17:37,657 --> 00:17:40,892 And do it repeatedly... 369 00:17:41,094 --> 00:17:43,694 Now when you touch the animal's siphon again, 370 00:17:43,897 --> 00:17:46,497 even weeks later, without a shock, 371 00:17:46,699 --> 00:17:49,467 it reacts as if it got shocked. 372 00:17:49,669 --> 00:17:54,739 Somehow, it remembers that that light touch means shock. 373 00:17:54,941 --> 00:17:58,443 It has formed a long-lasting memory. 374 00:17:58,645 --> 00:18:01,979 The question is, how? 375 00:18:02,182 --> 00:18:03,481 Kandel had a hunch. 376 00:18:03,683 --> 00:18:06,451 If he could just replicate that touch experiment 377 00:18:06,653 --> 00:18:07,985 with single cells, 378 00:18:08,188 --> 00:18:10,088 he could see exactly what was going on to make a memory. 379 00:18:10,290 --> 00:18:13,291 KANDEL: We could take the cells out of the animal 380 00:18:13,493 --> 00:18:15,059 and put it into the cell culture 381 00:18:15,261 --> 00:18:17,595 and reconstruct the neural circuit. 382 00:18:17,797 --> 00:18:19,497 We could look at each level 383 00:18:19,699 --> 00:18:22,500 and see what happens with long-term memory. 384 00:18:22,702 --> 00:18:24,569 MARTIN: That was this huge breakthrough. 385 00:18:24,771 --> 00:18:26,804 What Eric Kandel really did was 386 00:18:27,006 --> 00:18:29,640 he took this sort of phenomenon of memory 387 00:18:29,843 --> 00:18:32,944 and turned it into a biological question. 388 00:18:33,146 --> 00:18:35,379 "What are the changes that are happening 389 00:18:35,582 --> 00:18:37,982 that give rise to memory?" 390 00:18:38,184 --> 00:18:39,484 NARRATOR: To find out, 391 00:18:39,686 --> 00:18:44,388 Kandel's team extracted two neurons from the sea slug. 392 00:18:44,591 --> 00:18:47,225 This is a sensory neuron from its siphon, 393 00:18:47,427 --> 00:18:50,394 and that's a motor neuron from the tail. 394 00:18:50,597 --> 00:18:53,498 They are connected by a single synapse. 395 00:18:53,700 --> 00:18:55,666 KANDEL: The synapse is the point of contact 396 00:18:55,869 --> 00:18:58,136 where one neuron talks to another. 397 00:19:00,140 --> 00:19:02,540 NARRATOR: Then, to simulate a long-term memory 398 00:19:02,742 --> 00:19:04,709 just like with the live animal, 399 00:19:04,911 --> 00:19:08,379 Kandel repeatedly stimulated the sensory neuron. 400 00:19:08,581 --> 00:19:13,484 And when he did, suddenly something magical happened. 401 00:19:13,686 --> 00:19:18,956 New synaptic connections started to grow. 402 00:19:19,159 --> 00:19:21,659 KANDEL: This made us realize for the first time 403 00:19:21,861 --> 00:19:23,661 that long-term memory actually involves 404 00:19:23,863 --> 00:19:26,030 an anatomical change in the brain 405 00:19:26,232 --> 00:19:29,333 whereby new connections are being formed. 406 00:19:29,536 --> 00:19:31,169 And that just really blew us away 407 00:19:31,371 --> 00:19:32,436 the first time we saw it. 408 00:19:32,639 --> 00:19:35,072 JOE LEDOUX: That was a phenomenal discovery 409 00:19:35,275 --> 00:19:37,575 because it showed us for the first time 410 00:19:37,777 --> 00:19:39,810 that memory involves a structural physical change 411 00:19:40,013 --> 00:19:40,811 in the brain. 412 00:19:41,014 --> 00:19:42,480 That became the foundation 413 00:19:42,682 --> 00:19:44,815 for our whole conceptual basis for understanding memory. 414 00:19:45,018 --> 00:19:46,617 NARRATOR: Using today's technology, 415 00:19:46,819 --> 00:19:49,220 you can witness this process first-hand. 416 00:19:49,422 --> 00:19:52,857 This shows you the nucleus in the cell. 417 00:19:53,059 --> 00:19:56,761 NARRATOR: After repeated stimulation, the neuron's nucleus 418 00:19:56,963 --> 00:20:01,532 starts to pump out these tiny glowing specks called mRNA, 419 00:20:01,734 --> 00:20:04,068 recipes for building proteins. 420 00:20:04,270 --> 00:20:06,504 They're about to travel down to the synapse 421 00:20:06,706 --> 00:20:11,309 with instructions to build new connections. 422 00:20:11,511 --> 00:20:13,344 And you see this magnificent voyage 423 00:20:13,546 --> 00:20:15,213 that this particle, 424 00:20:15,415 --> 00:20:18,716 which is carrying messenger RNA to the synapses. 425 00:20:18,918 --> 00:20:22,520 NARRATOR: When it gets there, the instructions are released 426 00:20:22,722 --> 00:20:27,625 and the new connections grow, seen here in green. 427 00:20:27,827 --> 00:20:30,861 We're seeing a memory being formed in front of your eyes. 428 00:20:31,064 --> 00:20:33,698 These anatomical changes occur in your brain 429 00:20:33,900 --> 00:20:36,467 when you learn and remember something. 430 00:20:36,669 --> 00:20:40,238 NARRATOR: From sea slugs to humans, these physical changes 431 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,942 are considered the biological basis of memory. 432 00:20:45,144 --> 00:20:46,677 It's an article of faith at this point 433 00:20:46,879 --> 00:20:49,113 that the mechanisms that he has uncovered 434 00:20:49,315 --> 00:20:53,084 are fundamental ones to learning and memory for all of us. 435 00:20:55,154 --> 00:20:58,322 NARRATOR: Kandel's work launched a new way of probing memory, 436 00:20:58,524 --> 00:21:02,526 grounded in biology and built around a simple premise: 437 00:21:02,729 --> 00:21:05,096 the growth of new connections 438 00:21:05,298 --> 00:21:07,531 is what allows a memory to persist 439 00:21:07,734 --> 00:21:11,235 for days, months, even years. 440 00:21:11,437 --> 00:21:14,005 But that was just a piece of the picture, 441 00:21:14,207 --> 00:21:16,674 a basic mechanism for how memory works 442 00:21:16,876 --> 00:21:19,677 at the level of single cells. 443 00:21:19,879 --> 00:21:24,248 Even in a sea slug, a memory is made up of about 50 neurons 444 00:21:24,450 --> 00:21:26,751 out of 20,000. 445 00:21:26,953 --> 00:21:29,420 In a human, it's more like tens of thousands 446 00:21:29,622 --> 00:21:32,123 out of 100 billion. 447 00:21:32,325 --> 00:21:36,894 Somehow, it's this network that stores a memory. 448 00:21:37,096 --> 00:21:38,929 Which begs the question: 449 00:21:39,132 --> 00:21:43,968 where exactly does a particular memory live in us? 450 00:21:44,170 --> 00:21:46,304 To this day, that remains a mystery, 451 00:21:46,506 --> 00:21:48,739 but we aren't without clues. 452 00:21:48,941 --> 00:21:52,109 In the last 25 years, new imaging tools 453 00:21:52,312 --> 00:21:54,312 have allowed a generation of explorers 454 00:21:54,514 --> 00:21:57,315 to chart memory in the human brain. 455 00:21:57,517 --> 00:22:00,584 And today, we can finally begin to draw a rough map 456 00:22:00,787 --> 00:22:04,722 of where some of our most treasured memories live. 457 00:22:04,924 --> 00:22:06,557 Take something like a first kiss. 458 00:22:06,759 --> 00:22:09,160 Most people remember their first kiss. 459 00:22:10,963 --> 00:22:12,396 Do I remember my first kiss? 460 00:22:12,598 --> 00:22:14,832 (laughing) 461 00:22:15,034 --> 00:22:16,701 I do. 462 00:22:16,903 --> 00:22:18,769 When did I kiss that girl? 463 00:22:20,540 --> 00:22:23,841 There was this Italian, this dashing Italian. 464 00:22:24,043 --> 00:22:26,310 MAN: She was like, "This is something people do who like each other," 465 00:22:26,512 --> 00:22:29,013 and I was, "Okay, I like you." 466 00:22:29,215 --> 00:22:31,248 MAN: I remember, you know, 467 00:22:31,451 --> 00:22:35,853 sort of planning this kiss for, like, a week! 468 00:22:36,055 --> 00:22:40,725 Her friend whispered to me, "Make a move and walk faster." 469 00:22:40,927 --> 00:22:42,893 And all of a sudden, Lauren and I were alone 470 00:22:43,096 --> 00:22:44,295 in kind of a grove of trees. 471 00:22:44,497 --> 00:22:47,598 He takes my face like this and plants one on me! 472 00:22:51,471 --> 00:22:54,505 It was like the universe exploded or something like that. 473 00:22:54,707 --> 00:22:58,275 It just felt like suddenly, everything was different. 474 00:22:59,879 --> 00:23:02,747 MATT WALKER: The question becomes then, where is the memory? 475 00:23:02,949 --> 00:23:04,882 And what we started to understand is that 476 00:23:05,084 --> 00:23:07,785 there isn't a nicely sort of packaged memory 477 00:23:07,987 --> 00:23:10,221 that's sort of folded up like a letter 478 00:23:10,423 --> 00:23:12,289 and placed inside of an envelope 479 00:23:12,492 --> 00:23:14,558 in one specific area of the brain. 480 00:23:16,662 --> 00:23:18,362 Different parts of memories 481 00:23:18,564 --> 00:23:22,133 are coded in different locations of the brain. 482 00:23:22,335 --> 00:23:24,301 Think about your first kiss. 483 00:23:24,504 --> 00:23:27,238 The visual elements are coded at the back of the brain 484 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:28,973 in the visual cortex. 485 00:23:29,175 --> 00:23:32,710 The smell components are coded in the olfactory cortex 486 00:23:32,912 --> 00:23:34,044 just above the nose. 487 00:23:34,247 --> 00:23:36,714 The motoric, the kinesthetic elements, 488 00:23:36,916 --> 00:23:39,550 they're coded up here in the motor cortex. 489 00:23:39,752 --> 00:23:41,786 The emotional elements are coded 490 00:23:41,988 --> 00:23:44,755 in deep brain structures like the amygdala. 491 00:23:44,957 --> 00:23:47,124 And together, it is the hippocampus 492 00:23:47,326 --> 00:23:49,059 that is going to grab ahold 493 00:23:49,262 --> 00:23:52,163 of those individual brain anatomical areas, 494 00:23:52,365 --> 00:23:54,598 those balloons of information, 495 00:23:54,801 --> 00:23:57,001 and it is going to bind them together 496 00:23:57,203 --> 00:24:02,206 and produces a memory that you're capable of remembering. 497 00:24:02,408 --> 00:24:04,074 NARRATOR: So if different parts of a memory 498 00:24:04,277 --> 00:24:05,810 live in different parts of the brain, 499 00:24:06,012 --> 00:24:08,078 and we know that the growth of new connections 500 00:24:08,281 --> 00:24:10,080 is important for storing them, 501 00:24:10,283 --> 00:24:12,650 that would suggest that every memory 502 00:24:12,852 --> 00:24:15,853 is physically tattooed onto our brains. 503 00:24:16,055 --> 00:24:19,457 So how come we don't remember them all? 504 00:24:19,659 --> 00:24:21,959 The question is, if there are these structural changes 505 00:24:22,161 --> 00:24:23,961 that give rise to memory, 506 00:24:24,163 --> 00:24:27,565 but memories are changeable and dynamic, 507 00:24:27,767 --> 00:24:28,799 how can that be? 508 00:24:30,837 --> 00:24:32,837 NARRATOR: Perhaps the answer can be found 509 00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:35,706 in the act of remembering itself. 510 00:24:35,908 --> 00:24:37,541 Think about it: 511 00:24:37,743 --> 00:24:41,479 a memory only comes alive when you recall it. 512 00:24:41,681 --> 00:24:43,547 What happens in your brain 513 00:24:43,749 --> 00:24:46,584 each time you recollect a past experience? 514 00:24:46,786 --> 00:24:49,220 That's what Karim Nader wondered. 515 00:24:49,422 --> 00:24:52,456 His quest for answers started when he was a grad student 516 00:24:52,658 --> 00:24:54,425 at one of Kandel's lectures. 517 00:24:54,627 --> 00:24:56,026 Eric Kandel came and gave this brilliant talk. 518 00:24:56,229 --> 00:24:57,828 You know, there are examples for this... 519 00:24:58,030 --> 00:24:59,196 NADER: He had beautiful pictures 520 00:24:59,398 --> 00:25:02,500 showing that synapses could grow over time. 521 00:25:02,702 --> 00:25:04,134 The work is very elegant. 522 00:25:04,337 --> 00:25:05,803 It took everyone's breath away. 523 00:25:06,005 --> 00:25:10,040 NARRATOR: Looking at those pictures gave Nader an idea. 524 00:25:10,243 --> 00:25:12,810 NADER: "Hey, why would all of this have happened just once? 525 00:25:13,012 --> 00:25:15,279 "Wouldn't it be cool if all of this happened again 526 00:25:15,481 --> 00:25:16,780 when you recall the memory?" 527 00:25:18,551 --> 00:25:21,318 NARRATOR: If Kandel's work helped establish 528 00:25:21,521 --> 00:25:23,087 that memories can't form 529 00:25:23,289 --> 00:25:26,090 without new proteins that build new connections, 530 00:25:26,292 --> 00:25:27,858 what happens to those connections 531 00:25:28,060 --> 00:25:31,595 when you remember something? 532 00:25:33,833 --> 00:25:37,935 At the time, memory was pictured kind of like a library. 533 00:25:38,137 --> 00:25:41,071 The underlying dogma was that when you formed a memory, 534 00:25:41,274 --> 00:25:44,675 it was filed away in your brain, and that's it. 535 00:25:44,877 --> 00:25:45,943 It was there now forever. 536 00:25:46,145 --> 00:25:49,547 NARRATOR: It's called consolidation. 537 00:25:49,749 --> 00:25:51,348 RAMIREZ: You can't modify it, it just is. 538 00:25:51,551 --> 00:25:53,050 It's just in the brain. 539 00:25:53,252 --> 00:25:55,753 NARRATOR: So when you remember your first kiss, 540 00:25:55,955 --> 00:26:00,724 you pull out that book, look at it, and put it back. 541 00:26:00,927 --> 00:26:03,727 Though it may fade over time or get lost in the stacks, 542 00:26:03,930 --> 00:26:07,565 the original story, or memory, is always still there. 543 00:26:07,767 --> 00:26:10,701 Nader wondered, "Could this really be true? 544 00:26:10,903 --> 00:26:14,572 "Or is it possible that just the act of recalling the memory 545 00:26:14,774 --> 00:26:17,541 could rewrite the story?" 546 00:26:17,743 --> 00:26:22,913 To find out, Nader designed an experiment. 547 00:26:23,115 --> 00:26:25,583 JOE LEDOUX: When Karim told me he wanted to do that experiment, 548 00:26:25,785 --> 00:26:26,750 I probably said something like, 549 00:26:26,953 --> 00:26:28,085 "Don't do it, don't waste your time." 550 00:26:28,287 --> 00:26:30,254 But being a smart guy, he went off and did it. 551 00:26:30,456 --> 00:26:35,025 NARRATOR: So Nader decided to put his idea to the test. 552 00:26:35,227 --> 00:26:39,330 He started by training rats to fear the sound of a tone... 553 00:26:39,532 --> 00:26:40,397 (ringing) 554 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:41,799 Okay, so there's the tone. 555 00:26:42,001 --> 00:26:45,069 NARRATOR: ...by pairing it with a mild shock. 556 00:26:45,271 --> 00:26:46,604 Now there's the shock. 557 00:26:48,341 --> 00:26:51,375 So right now he's really scared, he doesn't like this at all. 558 00:26:51,577 --> 00:26:54,445 NARRATOR: Just like Kandel's sea slugs, 559 00:26:54,647 --> 00:26:57,781 the rats quickly learn to fear the tone alone. 560 00:26:57,984 --> 00:27:00,651 They have formed a long-term memory that the tone 561 00:27:00,853 --> 00:27:02,853 predicts shock. 562 00:27:03,055 --> 00:27:04,321 So every time it hears the tone... 563 00:27:04,523 --> 00:27:06,390 (ringing) 564 00:27:06,592 --> 00:27:08,592 NADER: So you see, even though there's no shock, 565 00:27:08,794 --> 00:27:11,762 the animal's freezing, it's afraid. 566 00:27:11,964 --> 00:27:14,264 NARRATOR: We know the rats' brains have built new connections 567 00:27:14,467 --> 00:27:15,899 to store the memory. 568 00:27:16,102 --> 00:27:18,102 But what happens to those connections 569 00:27:18,304 --> 00:27:21,672 when the rat recalls the memory? 570 00:27:21,874 --> 00:27:23,207 (ringing) 571 00:27:23,409 --> 00:27:26,410 To find out, Nader first plays the tone to remind the rat 572 00:27:26,612 --> 00:27:30,180 of his fear, and when he freezes... 573 00:27:30,383 --> 00:27:34,118 The next part is gonna be giving him a compound directly. 574 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,520 NARRATOR: The compound is anisomycin, 575 00:27:36,722 --> 00:27:38,722 a drug known to block the proteins needed 576 00:27:38,924 --> 00:27:42,292 to build the connections that store new memories. 577 00:27:42,495 --> 00:27:45,429 But Nader's rats have already formed the memory; 578 00:27:45,631 --> 00:27:47,765 they're just recalling it. 579 00:27:47,967 --> 00:27:51,301 If memory consolidation really is like a book in a library, 580 00:27:51,504 --> 00:27:53,804 the drug should have no effect. 581 00:27:54,006 --> 00:27:56,640 The rats' brains should have built a permanent memory 582 00:27:56,842 --> 00:27:59,410 and they should still freeze when they hear the tone. 583 00:27:59,612 --> 00:28:01,512 NADER: So if the memory is wired in the brain, 584 00:28:01,714 --> 00:28:03,614 this drug should have absolutely no effect. 585 00:28:03,816 --> 00:28:06,417 NARRATOR: But now when Nader plays the tone... 586 00:28:06,619 --> 00:28:07,885 (ringing) 587 00:28:08,087 --> 00:28:09,887 NADER: Oh my God, so now you see. 588 00:28:10,089 --> 00:28:11,488 NARRATOR: He keeps moving. 589 00:28:11,691 --> 00:28:13,991 You would think that the animal should be freezing if it 590 00:28:14,193 --> 00:28:16,760 still had the memory there, but now it's acting as if 591 00:28:16,962 --> 00:28:18,762 the memory has been erased from its mind. 592 00:28:18,964 --> 00:28:22,566 NARRATOR: As if it never learned to fear the tone in the first place. 593 00:28:22,768 --> 00:28:25,302 The memory appears to be gone. 594 00:28:25,504 --> 00:28:26,570 My jaw just dropped. 595 00:28:26,772 --> 00:28:27,905 I just couldn't believe it. 596 00:28:28,107 --> 00:28:30,541 So I ran into my supervisor's office going, 597 00:28:30,743 --> 00:28:31,975 "Holy (bleep) (bleep) (bleep), 598 00:28:32,178 --> 00:28:33,577 I can't (bleep) believe this happened." 599 00:28:33,779 --> 00:28:37,081 I mean the probability of this happening is like zero, right? 600 00:28:37,283 --> 00:28:40,884 NARRATOR: Because a drug known to block the formation of new memories 601 00:28:41,087 --> 00:28:44,955 also blocked them during recall, it means the act of remembering 602 00:28:45,157 --> 00:28:48,826 must make memories vulnerable to change. 603 00:28:49,028 --> 00:28:50,327 In other words: 604 00:28:50,529 --> 00:28:52,096 It's not this you have a memory, you encode it, 605 00:28:52,298 --> 00:28:53,630 and it's stuck there. 606 00:28:53,833 --> 00:28:56,133 But instead what it means is that every time 607 00:28:56,335 --> 00:29:01,505 that memory is recalled, it is vulnerable to alteration. 608 00:29:01,707 --> 00:29:04,141 Nader's discovery that any time you recall the memory 609 00:29:04,343 --> 00:29:08,245 you essentially disrupt it was a significant advance. 610 00:29:08,447 --> 00:29:10,781 It changes everything we think about memory. 611 00:29:14,019 --> 00:29:15,819 It turns out memory is not at all actually 612 00:29:16,021 --> 00:29:18,122 like putting a book away in the library of the brain, 613 00:29:18,324 --> 00:29:20,824 but it's more like bringing up a file on your computer, 614 00:29:21,026 --> 00:29:23,260 constantly modifying that file. 615 00:29:23,462 --> 00:29:25,729 NARRATOR: The theory is, every time you recall something, 616 00:29:25,931 --> 00:29:28,932 you have to pull it up off the hard drive to view it. 617 00:29:29,135 --> 00:29:31,034 To return it to long-term memory, 618 00:29:31,237 --> 00:29:34,338 you have to hit "save" and reconsolidate the memory 619 00:29:34,540 --> 00:29:38,242 by creating new proteins to essentially rewire the memory 620 00:29:38,444 --> 00:29:40,611 into your brain. 621 00:29:40,813 --> 00:29:43,147 Imagine something precious in a box. 622 00:29:43,349 --> 00:29:46,750 And then each time you take it out, it changes a little bit. 623 00:29:46,952 --> 00:29:48,018 And then you put it back. 624 00:29:48,220 --> 00:29:49,686 Then take it out, changes a little bit. 625 00:29:49,889 --> 00:29:51,288 That's how your memory works. 626 00:29:51,490 --> 00:29:54,158 NARRATOR: The idea that the simple act of remembering 627 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,593 could make your memories vulnerable to change 628 00:29:56,796 --> 00:30:00,464 transformed our understanding of memory. 629 00:30:00,666 --> 00:30:03,333 Within a few years, Nader's findings were replicated 630 00:30:03,536 --> 00:30:07,971 in dozens of species and led to over a thousand experiments, 631 00:30:08,174 --> 00:30:09,606 even reportedly inspired the movie 632 00:30:09,809 --> 00:30:12,609 Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. 633 00:30:12,812 --> 00:30:14,111 MARK RUFFALO: Just focus on the memories. 634 00:30:14,313 --> 00:30:16,013 Here at Lacuna, we have a safe technique 635 00:30:16,215 --> 00:30:19,149 for the focused erasure of troubling memories. 636 00:30:19,351 --> 00:30:23,153 NARRATOR: But what if this isn't just the stuff of movies? 637 00:30:23,355 --> 00:30:26,423 What if it's possible to use reconsolidation in humans? 638 00:30:26,625 --> 00:30:28,926 Perhaps to erase certain memories, 639 00:30:29,128 --> 00:30:31,528 like the ones that keep you up at night. 640 00:30:31,730 --> 00:30:32,896 MAN: Heights-- 641 00:30:33,098 --> 00:30:34,064 I'm terrified of heights. 642 00:30:34,266 --> 00:30:36,233 WOMAN: I don't want to be on a ladder. 643 00:30:36,435 --> 00:30:37,634 I don't want to be on the second floor. 644 00:30:37,837 --> 00:30:39,937 I don't like to be looking down. 645 00:30:40,139 --> 00:30:41,605 I can't tell you the last time I've been in a pool, 646 00:30:41,807 --> 00:30:43,640 I can't tell you the last time I've owned a bathing suit. 647 00:30:43,843 --> 00:30:46,076 But, I mean, the water gets like probably right here, 648 00:30:46,278 --> 00:30:47,578 and it's like the... (hyperventilating) 649 00:30:47,780 --> 00:30:49,413 Elevators. (chuckles) 650 00:30:51,684 --> 00:30:52,616 Snakes are the worst. 651 00:30:52,818 --> 00:30:54,318 I don't know what it is about bees, 652 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,487 but I just can't... I can't be around them. 653 00:30:57,690 --> 00:30:58,589 Spiders. 654 00:30:58,791 --> 00:31:01,291 I'm petrified of spiders. 655 00:31:01,493 --> 00:31:02,926 Even the smallest ones. 656 00:31:03,128 --> 00:31:03,994 Terrified. 657 00:31:05,331 --> 00:31:06,396 If I see a spider I don't want to come near it. 658 00:31:09,869 --> 00:31:12,302 I'm really scared of spiders. 659 00:31:12,504 --> 00:31:14,905 Or at least I used to be. 660 00:31:15,107 --> 00:31:17,774 But now I'm just completely relaxed sitting here 661 00:31:17,977 --> 00:31:19,309 with a tarantula. 662 00:31:19,511 --> 00:31:21,111 And it's really crazy. 663 00:31:21,313 --> 00:31:23,313 NARRATOR: Ever since she was a little girl, 664 00:31:23,515 --> 00:31:27,684 Sasha de Waal has been plagued by her fear of spiders. 665 00:31:27,887 --> 00:31:30,287 But thanks to a new therapy using reconsolidation, 666 00:31:30,489 --> 00:31:32,389 that fear seems to have been erased. 667 00:31:32,591 --> 00:31:33,924 Yeah. 668 00:31:34,126 --> 00:31:37,060 (laughing): I'm petting a poisonous spider indeed. 669 00:31:37,263 --> 00:31:40,864 NARRATOR: The scientist who cured Sasha is Merel Kindt 670 00:31:41,066 --> 00:31:44,301 from the University of Amsterdam. 671 00:31:44,503 --> 00:31:46,236 When she heard about Karim Nader's work, 672 00:31:46,438 --> 00:31:48,572 she immediately saw the potential. 673 00:31:48,774 --> 00:31:50,874 MEREL KINDT: So I was really thrilled. 674 00:31:51,076 --> 00:31:53,911 I realized if this is going to work for humans, 675 00:31:54,113 --> 00:31:57,180 this is, yeah, very important news. 676 00:31:57,383 --> 00:32:01,551 So can you tell me a bit more about your fear of spiders? 677 00:32:01,754 --> 00:32:04,054 NARRATOR: Using reconsolidation, she has developed a treatment 678 00:32:04,256 --> 00:32:06,189 to erase patients' life-long fears. 679 00:32:06,392 --> 00:32:08,125 They just scare me. 680 00:32:08,327 --> 00:32:09,459 Just fear. 681 00:32:09,662 --> 00:32:13,263 When I sleep I dream about it, I'm just very scared. 682 00:32:13,465 --> 00:32:16,233 For the treatment we will walk to the other side of the room, 683 00:32:16,435 --> 00:32:24,741 and there is a terrarium tank with a tarantula in it. 684 00:32:24,944 --> 00:32:28,345 I'm going to ask you to touch the tarantula. 685 00:32:30,516 --> 00:32:31,782 Okay? 686 00:32:31,984 --> 00:32:33,417 They're not poisonous, right? 687 00:32:33,619 --> 00:32:37,988 Yeah, well, all tarantulas are poisonous. 688 00:32:39,224 --> 00:32:41,858 Walk to the yellow line. 689 00:32:42,061 --> 00:32:45,162 Very good, you are doing very good. 690 00:32:45,364 --> 00:32:48,765 NARRATOR: Just like with Nader's rats, the first step is to get Jeroen 691 00:32:48,968 --> 00:32:51,702 to draw up the memory of his fear. 692 00:32:56,141 --> 00:32:59,209 (breathing heavily) 693 00:32:59,411 --> 00:33:02,312 KINDT: You're doing very good. 694 00:33:02,514 --> 00:33:06,817 We ask our participants to approach the tarantula, 695 00:33:07,019 --> 00:33:10,253 which triggers the original fear memory. 696 00:33:10,456 --> 00:33:13,223 How much distress do you feel right now? 697 00:33:13,425 --> 00:33:15,225 Dry mouth. 698 00:33:15,427 --> 00:33:17,427 I feel shaking. 699 00:33:17,629 --> 00:33:19,363 You are doing very, very well. 700 00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:23,333 Try to look here. 701 00:33:23,535 --> 00:33:25,268 Don't avoid it. 702 00:33:25,471 --> 00:33:27,804 Stay here, it's important that you see it. 703 00:33:28,007 --> 00:33:29,106 Yeah? 704 00:33:29,308 --> 00:33:30,741 Just put your hand here. 705 00:33:34,313 --> 00:33:36,880 And then stop, yeah? 706 00:33:37,082 --> 00:33:40,650 What do you think that will happen? 707 00:33:40,853 --> 00:33:42,352 KINDT: Approaching the spider 708 00:33:42,554 --> 00:33:45,555 makes the fear memory unstable. 709 00:33:45,758 --> 00:33:46,890 Yeah. 710 00:33:47,092 --> 00:33:50,460 Okay, very good, we go to the other side of the room. 711 00:33:51,830 --> 00:33:53,830 KINDT: Such that if we give propranolol 712 00:33:54,033 --> 00:33:57,701 after the exposure to the tarantula, 713 00:33:57,903 --> 00:34:01,738 the drug can interfere with the restabilization 714 00:34:01,940 --> 00:34:05,876 of the original fear memory. 715 00:34:06,078 --> 00:34:08,678 NARRATOR: Propranolol is a blood-pressure medication 716 00:34:08,881 --> 00:34:11,782 that blocks the release of noradrenaline in the amygdala, 717 00:34:11,984 --> 00:34:14,418 the fear center of the brain. 718 00:34:14,620 --> 00:34:17,721 Since noradrenaline is part of the brain's anxiety signal 719 00:34:17,923 --> 00:34:21,124 during a fearful event, blocking it after recall 720 00:34:21,326 --> 00:34:23,660 seems to disrupt the reconsolidation 721 00:34:23,862 --> 00:34:26,663 of the fear part of the memory. 722 00:34:26,865 --> 00:34:30,167 What is very important is that it is not a forget pill. 723 00:34:30,369 --> 00:34:33,270 If we do not trigger the memory reactivation, 724 00:34:33,472 --> 00:34:35,906 the drug will not work. 725 00:34:38,844 --> 00:34:42,712 NARRATOR: The next day Jeroen returns. 726 00:34:42,915 --> 00:34:44,915 What we are going to do is again, 727 00:34:45,117 --> 00:34:46,783 walking to the other side of the room 728 00:34:46,985 --> 00:34:50,087 and I'm going to ask you again to touch the spider. 729 00:34:55,294 --> 00:34:56,960 You can touch it here at the backside. 730 00:34:57,162 --> 00:34:59,763 (chuckles) 731 00:35:10,175 --> 00:35:11,141 Very good. 732 00:35:11,343 --> 00:35:12,776 Did you touch it, did you feel it? 733 00:35:12,978 --> 00:35:13,810 Yeah, yeah. 734 00:35:14,012 --> 00:35:15,812 Okay, try it again. 735 00:35:16,014 --> 00:35:17,881 It felt like rubber. 736 00:35:18,083 --> 00:35:19,816 Yeah, try it again. 737 00:35:23,222 --> 00:35:24,387 Oh, man. 738 00:35:24,590 --> 00:35:26,089 Okay. 739 00:35:26,291 --> 00:35:29,025 NARRATOR: It takes a few tries, but after just minutes... 740 00:35:29,228 --> 00:35:30,961 Do it again. 741 00:35:38,504 --> 00:35:41,738 Very good, yes, yes. 742 00:35:42,908 --> 00:35:44,040 Yes. 743 00:35:44,243 --> 00:35:47,043 How does it feel to touch a tarantula? 744 00:35:47,246 --> 00:35:48,845 Like touching a hamster. 745 00:35:49,047 --> 00:35:49,779 Yeah. 746 00:35:51,416 --> 00:35:53,250 Maybe he likes it. 747 00:35:56,522 --> 00:36:00,157 NARRATOR: So far Kindt's repeated this work in over 30 people 748 00:36:00,359 --> 00:36:05,862 with spider phobia and other anxiety disorders, and... 749 00:36:06,064 --> 00:36:07,597 The effects were so overwhelming 750 00:36:07,799 --> 00:36:12,002 that I did not believe them initially. 751 00:36:12,204 --> 00:36:14,237 NARRATOR: But in fact, the therapy worked 752 00:36:14,439 --> 00:36:18,708 in every spider phobe she tested, even a year later. 753 00:36:18,911 --> 00:36:20,510 It was unbelievable, and I was standing there, 754 00:36:20,712 --> 00:36:22,279 like, how can this be possible? 755 00:36:22,481 --> 00:36:23,580 (chuckles) 756 00:36:23,782 --> 00:36:25,215 It's my new friend. 757 00:36:25,417 --> 00:36:27,150 It's really confusing. 758 00:36:29,121 --> 00:36:30,253 It's like a contradiction... 759 00:36:30,455 --> 00:36:31,621 Yeah, yeah, contradiction. 760 00:36:31,823 --> 00:36:33,723 ...with how I used to feel and how I feel now. 761 00:36:33,926 --> 00:36:38,795 It's so strange, like I am someone else now. 762 00:36:38,997 --> 00:36:43,300 We of course cannot prove that we delete or even erase 763 00:36:43,502 --> 00:36:47,404 the original fear memory, because we can only observe 764 00:36:47,606 --> 00:36:52,609 the new behavior, but given that the fear does not come back, 765 00:36:52,811 --> 00:36:56,213 we hypothesize that the previously formed memory 766 00:36:56,415 --> 00:37:00,183 are in fact deleted. 767 00:37:00,385 --> 00:37:04,287 NARRATOR: Treating people with spider phobia is only the first step. 768 00:37:04,489 --> 00:37:08,358 Kindt is now among a handful of scientists using reconsolidation 769 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:13,163 to treat a variety of disorders from drug addiction to PTSD, 770 00:37:13,365 --> 00:37:15,599 and though the research is in its infancy, 771 00:37:15,801 --> 00:37:18,235 early results have been promising. 772 00:37:18,437 --> 00:37:22,839 I am very hopeful that the reconsolidation intervention 773 00:37:23,041 --> 00:37:25,775 will be further developed 774 00:37:25,978 --> 00:37:28,345 for people with post-traumatic stress disorder. 775 00:37:28,547 --> 00:37:33,416 NARRATOR: But reconsolidation is more than just a therapeutic tool. 776 00:37:33,619 --> 00:37:37,854 If the act of recalling a memory makes it vulnerable to change, 777 00:37:38,056 --> 00:37:43,026 this may also explain something we've known all along... 778 00:37:43,228 --> 00:37:47,497 That our memory is often an unreliable narrator. 779 00:37:47,699 --> 00:37:52,068 I could swear by anyone, pass every lie detector test that... 780 00:37:52,271 --> 00:37:54,671 I had met Mother Teresa, but I hadn't. 781 00:37:54,873 --> 00:37:57,440 Something that I wanted to happen, but it never did happen. 782 00:37:57,643 --> 00:38:02,412 I believe that my earliest memory was a very happy memory 783 00:38:02,614 --> 00:38:05,048 of going to a movie called The Greatest Show on Earth. 784 00:38:05,250 --> 00:38:08,952 ยถ ยถ 785 00:38:09,154 --> 00:38:13,089 And it wasn't until much later I found out that the movie 786 00:38:13,292 --> 00:38:15,258 was released when I was eight years old. 787 00:38:15,460 --> 00:38:19,062 So it couldn't have been my earliest memory. 788 00:38:19,264 --> 00:38:22,599 NARRATOR: This comes as no surprise to Elizabeth Loftus. 789 00:38:22,801 --> 00:38:25,068 She's spent the last 40 years 790 00:38:25,270 --> 00:38:28,471 exploring exactly how unreliable our memory is. 791 00:38:28,674 --> 00:38:31,374 I think people ought to pay more attention to the fact 792 00:38:31,576 --> 00:38:33,810 that there are memory errors all around them. 793 00:38:34,012 --> 00:38:37,514 NARRATOR: Her work has inspired a generation of researchers, 794 00:38:37,716 --> 00:38:40,383 including psychologist Julia Shaw. 795 00:38:40,585 --> 00:38:43,186 The question isn't, do we have false memories? 796 00:38:43,388 --> 00:38:44,688 It's, how false are our memories? 797 00:38:44,890 --> 00:38:46,690 There are so many things 798 00:38:46,892 --> 00:38:49,192 that can and do go wrong along the way. 799 00:38:49,394 --> 00:38:52,295 NARRATOR: To find out how wrong, Shaw has designed perhaps 800 00:38:52,497 --> 00:38:56,733 the most comprehensive study ever on false memory. 801 00:38:56,935 --> 00:38:58,935 She starts by recruiting over a hundred people 802 00:38:59,137 --> 00:39:02,305 for what they think is a study about their childhood memories. 803 00:39:02,507 --> 00:39:04,774 So this is my first meeting with the participant. 804 00:39:04,976 --> 00:39:06,476 The first event which we'll be talking about 805 00:39:06,678 --> 00:39:09,279 was a time when you were 12 and you moved from Trinidad 806 00:39:09,481 --> 00:39:10,347 to Kelowna with your family. 807 00:39:10,549 --> 00:39:12,182 I hated the move. 808 00:39:12,384 --> 00:39:14,884 NARRATOR: Actually the study is to see if it's possible to implant 809 00:39:15,087 --> 00:39:19,089 a false memory about committing a crime. 810 00:39:19,291 --> 00:39:21,458 I had colleagues saying, "This isn't going to work. 811 00:39:21,660 --> 00:39:23,326 "There's no way you will get individuals to think 812 00:39:23,528 --> 00:39:25,195 that they committed a crime that never happened." 813 00:39:25,397 --> 00:39:28,598 NARRATOR: She begins with a true event gathered from their parents-- 814 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,267 in this case a family move. 815 00:39:31,470 --> 00:39:33,970 We moved around like every year kinda thing. 816 00:39:34,172 --> 00:39:36,539 NARRATOR: But this was just a trick to gain trust. 817 00:39:36,742 --> 00:39:39,442 The next step is to introduce the false memory: 818 00:39:39,644 --> 00:39:42,479 a fight so severe that the police were called. 819 00:39:42,681 --> 00:39:45,515 So the other event which your parents report happening 820 00:39:45,717 --> 00:39:48,318 was when you were 14 years old you initiated a physical fight 821 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,019 and the police called your parents. 822 00:39:50,222 --> 00:39:52,522 They said it happened in Kelowna, in the fall 823 00:39:52,724 --> 00:39:56,059 and you were with Ryan when it happened. 824 00:39:56,261 --> 00:39:58,728 Only two of the details are real: 825 00:39:58,930 --> 00:40:02,799 the name of the best friend and the place she lived at the time. 826 00:40:03,001 --> 00:40:05,235 The rest is made up. 827 00:40:05,437 --> 00:40:07,270 Honestly, I don't remember. 828 00:40:07,472 --> 00:40:10,140 Like I don't know what you're talking about. 829 00:40:10,342 --> 00:40:12,342 I don't.. I feel like... I don't think 830 00:40:12,544 --> 00:40:15,445 I've ever been in a fight. 831 00:40:15,647 --> 00:40:18,114 I'm so confused. 832 00:40:18,316 --> 00:40:21,084 NARRATOR: Shaw then turns to a series of cognitive techniques 833 00:40:21,286 --> 00:40:23,386 known to induce false memories, 834 00:40:23,588 --> 00:40:26,122 starting with an imagination exercise. 835 00:40:26,324 --> 00:40:28,191 I'd like you to relax, close your eyes 836 00:40:28,393 --> 00:40:30,260 and focus your attention on trying to retrieve this memory. 837 00:40:30,462 --> 00:40:31,861 Okay. 838 00:40:32,063 --> 00:40:33,163 NARRATOR: Bolstered with a little social pressure... 839 00:40:33,365 --> 00:40:34,397 This might seem a bit strange, 840 00:40:34,599 --> 00:40:35,832 but it does work for most people. 841 00:40:36,034 --> 00:40:37,300 Okay. 842 00:40:37,502 --> 00:40:38,835 Subtly introducing this notion 843 00:40:39,037 --> 00:40:42,005 that "it works for most people if they try hard enough," 844 00:40:42,207 --> 00:40:44,507 which is a subtle form of social manipulation. 845 00:40:44,709 --> 00:40:47,744 NARRATOR: And ask the participant to visualize certain details 846 00:40:47,946 --> 00:40:49,913 of the stories. 847 00:40:50,115 --> 00:40:51,881 Introducing things that are easy to picture first. 848 00:40:52,083 --> 00:40:54,217 Picture yourself at the age of 14. 849 00:40:54,419 --> 00:40:55,985 "Picture yourself at the age of 14." 850 00:40:56,188 --> 00:40:57,420 That's an easy thing to picture. 851 00:40:57,622 --> 00:40:58,955 In Kelowna. 852 00:40:59,157 --> 00:41:02,358 In Kelowna, the place that she lived at the age. 853 00:41:02,561 --> 00:41:03,793 Also easy to picture. 854 00:41:03,995 --> 00:41:05,128 And it's fall. 855 00:41:05,330 --> 00:41:07,096 It's fall, everybody can picture fall. 856 00:41:07,299 --> 00:41:08,932 And you were with Ryan when it happened. 857 00:41:12,838 --> 00:41:14,871 When people imagine events that might have occurred 858 00:41:15,073 --> 00:41:18,408 in their past, we know that that's a potent way 859 00:41:18,610 --> 00:41:20,109 of creating a false memory. 860 00:41:20,312 --> 00:41:23,046 NARRATOR: After giving the memory a week to set, 861 00:41:23,248 --> 00:41:25,181 she brings the participant back. 862 00:41:25,383 --> 00:41:28,551 Okay, so, welcome back. 863 00:41:28,753 --> 00:41:30,820 And so by the time we get to interview number two, 864 00:41:31,022 --> 00:41:31,888 we're seeing a different story. 865 00:41:33,225 --> 00:41:36,826 I remember, like, a verbal fight and maybe I... 866 00:41:41,366 --> 00:41:44,467 It seems so unlike... but maybe I pushed or something? 867 00:41:44,669 --> 00:41:46,002 Good, okay. 868 00:41:46,204 --> 00:41:50,807 So this is where she's first fully buying into this idea 869 00:41:51,009 --> 00:41:52,275 that she's actually had a fight. 870 00:41:52,477 --> 00:41:54,244 I feel like she pushed me first. 871 00:41:54,446 --> 00:41:56,112 Okay. 872 00:41:56,314 --> 00:41:58,948 SHAW: And this person is starting to picture 873 00:41:59,150 --> 00:42:00,316 how it could have happened. 874 00:42:00,519 --> 00:42:01,718 And "what could have been" 875 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,152 turns into "what would have been" 876 00:42:03,355 --> 00:42:04,921 turns into "what was." 877 00:42:05,123 --> 00:42:08,258 NARRATOR: So by the third interview, the memory has taken hold. 878 00:42:08,460 --> 00:42:11,895 I think the cops showed up, d we were kind of having 879 00:42:12,097 --> 00:42:15,532 a... maybe like a verbal kind of fight 880 00:42:15,734 --> 00:42:18,334 and then it kind of maybe got into a push. 881 00:42:21,306 --> 00:42:23,473 NARRATOR: And it wasn't just this once. 882 00:42:23,675 --> 00:42:25,041 Shaw was able to convince 883 00:42:25,243 --> 00:42:29,178 over 70% of participants that they committed a crime. 884 00:42:29,381 --> 00:42:30,780 I think I just lost it. 885 00:42:30,982 --> 00:42:32,615 Couldn't take it anymore. 886 00:42:32,817 --> 00:42:36,219 I was incredibly surprised at the rate that I had 887 00:42:36,421 --> 00:42:39,022 in terms of successfully implanting these false memories. 888 00:42:39,224 --> 00:42:40,723 You physically feel things about it? 889 00:42:40,926 --> 00:42:42,892 (quietly): Yes. 890 00:42:43,094 --> 00:42:47,063 And yet there we were, and they just kept coming 891 00:42:47,265 --> 00:42:48,898 and coming and coming. 892 00:42:49,100 --> 00:42:53,136 NARRATOR: So much so, Shaw's team cut the study short. 893 00:42:53,338 --> 00:42:56,139 So this is a false memory study. 894 00:42:56,341 --> 00:42:58,541 (laughing): I'm so embarrassed. 895 00:42:58,743 --> 00:43:02,745 NARRATOR: And the ramifications go way beyond fooling college students. 896 00:43:02,948 --> 00:43:04,480 False memory studies like this 897 00:43:04,683 --> 00:43:06,115 question one of the cornerstones 898 00:43:06,318 --> 00:43:08,318 of the criminal justice system. 899 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:14,324 LOFTUS: In those hundreds of cases where DNA testing has proven 900 00:43:14,526 --> 00:43:18,428 that these individuals were wrongly convicted, 901 00:43:18,630 --> 00:43:22,165 about three-quarters of the time the convictions were based 902 00:43:22,367 --> 00:43:24,400 on faulty eye witness testimony. 903 00:43:25,937 --> 00:43:29,439 NARRATOR: So if our memories are more malleable than we think, 904 00:43:29,641 --> 00:43:34,277 and we can change them, even erase some of them, what's next? 905 00:43:36,715 --> 00:43:39,649 Will there ever be a day when at just the push of a button, 906 00:43:39,851 --> 00:43:43,453 we can implant or edit specific memories at will? 907 00:43:43,655 --> 00:43:44,654 Is this your first trip? 908 00:43:44,856 --> 00:43:46,255 NARRATOR: Like in the movies? 909 00:43:48,193 --> 00:43:49,792 The seed that we plant in this man's mind 910 00:43:49,995 --> 00:43:51,094 will grow into an idea. 911 00:43:51,296 --> 00:43:52,996 This idea will define him. 912 00:43:53,198 --> 00:43:54,998 It may come to change... 913 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,233 well, it may come to change everything about him. 914 00:43:57,435 --> 00:44:00,670 Movies like Inception, Total Recall, Eternal Sunshine, 915 00:44:00,872 --> 00:44:03,106 of course they're possible. 916 00:44:03,308 --> 00:44:07,877 If mice had Hollywood, then it's possible in practice right now. 917 00:44:09,547 --> 00:44:11,948 NARRATOR: In fact, here at Columbia University, 918 00:44:12,150 --> 00:44:15,284 Christine Denny is one of a handful of neuroscientists 919 00:44:15,487 --> 00:44:17,887 who can do just that. 920 00:44:18,089 --> 00:44:20,323 CHRISTINE DENNY: It does seem like science fiction. 921 00:44:20,525 --> 00:44:22,625 But we are really doing Inception in our lab 922 00:44:22,827 --> 00:44:24,427 with turning on and off memories. 923 00:44:26,031 --> 00:44:29,565 NARRATOR: It's called optogenetics, a technique so revolutionary 924 00:44:29,768 --> 00:44:32,235 it allows us not only to map a specific memory, 925 00:44:32,437 --> 00:44:36,372 but manipulate it with lasers. 926 00:44:36,574 --> 00:44:38,541 At least in these little guys. 927 00:44:38,743 --> 00:44:42,412 These mice might not look so special. 928 00:44:42,614 --> 00:44:46,683 You could not tell my mice apart from a mouse on the street 929 00:44:46,885 --> 00:44:49,352 or wherever you would go to a pet store and buy a mouse. 930 00:44:49,554 --> 00:44:50,887 They don't look any different. 931 00:44:51,089 --> 00:44:52,822 NARRATOR: But they are. 932 00:44:53,024 --> 00:44:55,491 These are genetically modified mice 933 00:44:55,694 --> 00:44:57,894 that allow Denny to record specific memories 934 00:44:58,096 --> 00:45:00,430 and turn them on and off at will. 935 00:45:00,632 --> 00:45:02,799 To demonstrate, she starts by putting a mouse 936 00:45:03,001 --> 00:45:04,400 in a new environment. 937 00:45:04,602 --> 00:45:08,771 DENNY: You can see that the mouse is just sitting here 938 00:45:08,973 --> 00:45:10,206 in the corner, freezing. 939 00:45:12,744 --> 00:45:14,343 Basically scared of the environment. 940 00:45:14,546 --> 00:45:15,945 NARRATOR: That's because it's bright. 941 00:45:16,147 --> 00:45:18,147 There's no place to hide. 942 00:45:18,349 --> 00:45:20,783 But the goal isn't to frighten mice. 943 00:45:20,985 --> 00:45:23,119 She wants to see if she can override this fear 944 00:45:23,321 --> 00:45:27,523 by playing back a happy memory she recorded yesterday. 945 00:45:27,726 --> 00:45:30,660 What we did is labeled a positive memory 946 00:45:30,862 --> 00:45:32,729 in the brains of these mice. 947 00:45:34,833 --> 00:45:37,934 NARRATOR: Yesterday this same mouse got to explore the kind of place 948 00:45:38,136 --> 00:45:41,504 it naturally likes: dimly lit, full of soft bedding, 949 00:45:41,706 --> 00:45:44,173 with a nice place to hide. 950 00:45:44,375 --> 00:45:47,076 And while he was scurrying around, Denny recorded 951 00:45:47,278 --> 00:45:50,213 the exact neurons that fired when he made a memory 952 00:45:50,415 --> 00:45:52,148 of that pleasant place. 953 00:45:52,350 --> 00:45:54,917 DENNY: The cells that are labeled here in green, 954 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,788 when I turn on the laser, those cells will turn on the memory. 955 00:45:58,990 --> 00:46:00,456 NARRATOR: But how? 956 00:46:00,658 --> 00:46:04,193 How do you record a specific memory? 957 00:46:04,395 --> 00:46:07,330 And how do you get brain cells to respond to light? 958 00:46:07,532 --> 00:46:11,501 Here's where the sci-fi wizardry comes in. 959 00:46:11,703 --> 00:46:16,706 We genetically engineered mice so that we can permanently label 960 00:46:16,908 --> 00:46:18,541 an individual memory. 961 00:46:18,743 --> 00:46:22,078 NARRATOR: The key is this mouse's special genome. 962 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,681 It's bred to carry a piece of DNA from algae 963 00:46:25,884 --> 00:46:29,585 that has the code for a light-sensitive protein. 964 00:46:29,788 --> 00:46:34,490 In nature, that protein allows the algae to respond to light. 965 00:46:34,692 --> 00:46:37,460 In Denny's mice, it just sits there quietly 966 00:46:37,662 --> 00:46:42,064 in the mouse's genome, not doing anything until... 967 00:46:42,267 --> 00:46:45,067 When you inject a drug right before you expose them 968 00:46:45,270 --> 00:46:47,003 to this positive experience. 969 00:46:47,205 --> 00:46:50,439 NARRATOR: The drug switches that gene on, telling any brain cells 970 00:46:50,642 --> 00:46:52,208 that fire within the hour 971 00:46:52,410 --> 00:46:56,345 to install this light-sensitive protein on their surfaces. 972 00:46:56,548 --> 00:46:59,549 As the mouse is exploring a pleasant environment, 973 00:46:59,751 --> 00:47:02,919 any neurons that fire will leave a footprint of the memory 974 00:47:03,121 --> 00:47:05,021 in the mouse's brain. 975 00:47:05,223 --> 00:47:07,223 After the drug wears off, 976 00:47:07,425 --> 00:47:10,827 only those cells will respond to light. 977 00:47:11,029 --> 00:47:11,894 Meaning: 978 00:47:12,096 --> 00:47:13,930 It's basically like a switch. 979 00:47:14,132 --> 00:47:18,267 So what you can then do is use a laser to control these cells. 980 00:47:18,469 --> 00:47:21,370 NARRATOR: These tiny fiber optics can shine light 981 00:47:21,573 --> 00:47:24,273 directly into the mouse's brain. 982 00:47:24,475 --> 00:47:27,944 And what we're going to try to do now is to turn on these cells 983 00:47:28,146 --> 00:47:29,979 that we've labeled with a positive memory. 984 00:47:30,181 --> 00:47:33,783 NARRATOR: Right now the mouse is scared, but if Denny is right, 985 00:47:33,985 --> 00:47:37,553 the laser should activate the exact same neurons that fired 986 00:47:37,755 --> 00:47:40,256 when the mouse was making a happy memory, 987 00:47:40,458 --> 00:47:44,293 effectively causing it to relive that positive experience. 988 00:47:44,495 --> 00:47:46,429 Okay, so watch now what happens 989 00:47:46,631 --> 00:47:48,331 when I'm going to turn this laser on. 990 00:48:00,879 --> 00:48:02,645 You can see that the animal's actually smelling, 991 00:48:02,847 --> 00:48:07,250 grooming himself, which is a sign that he feels safe. 992 00:48:07,452 --> 00:48:08,918 NARRATOR: But turn the laser off... 993 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,121 DENNY: And you can see that the animal is resuming its behavior 994 00:48:12,323 --> 00:48:13,723 of freezing in the corner. 995 00:48:13,925 --> 00:48:16,759 NARRATOR: Denny can now trigger this memory at will. 996 00:48:16,961 --> 00:48:18,961 On. 997 00:48:19,163 --> 00:48:19,629 Off. 998 00:48:23,401 --> 00:48:26,002 I think the first time we did it, we didn't believe it. 999 00:48:26,204 --> 00:48:30,506 But when you see inside of the brains of these mice 1000 00:48:30,708 --> 00:48:34,510 and then to think that you're only manipulating those cells 1001 00:48:34,712 --> 00:48:37,613 and changing the behavioral output of the animal, 1002 00:48:37,815 --> 00:48:39,682 that's... yeah, science fiction. 1003 00:48:39,884 --> 00:48:41,484 SCHACTER: This is potentially 1004 00:48:41,686 --> 00:48:43,352 one of the most important new developments 1005 00:48:43,554 --> 00:48:46,789 in memory research because it suggests a level 1006 00:48:46,991 --> 00:48:50,293 and precision of control over memory that we've really 1007 00:48:50,495 --> 00:48:51,928 never seen before. 1008 00:48:52,130 --> 00:48:54,397 NARRATOR: A degree of precision many scientists think 1009 00:48:54,599 --> 00:48:57,833 we might have over our memories some day. 1010 00:48:58,036 --> 00:48:59,468 RAMIREZ: I think that it's a matter 1011 00:48:59,671 --> 00:49:00,703 of when this happens, 1012 00:49:00,905 --> 00:49:03,406 not a matter of if it'll happen in people. 1013 00:49:03,608 --> 00:49:05,041 NARRATOR: Which raises the question, 1014 00:49:05,243 --> 00:49:09,145 if by a flick of a switch we could edit that first kiss 1015 00:49:09,347 --> 00:49:13,883 or erase that argument with a spouse, 1016 00:49:14,085 --> 00:49:15,484 would we want to? 1017 00:49:15,687 --> 00:49:19,121 What scientists now are starting to realize is 1018 00:49:19,324 --> 00:49:22,692 that we can modify memories in some remarkable ways. 1019 00:49:22,894 --> 00:49:25,528 How do we think about that? 1020 00:49:25,730 --> 00:49:29,165 By starting to manipulate those memories, 1021 00:49:29,367 --> 00:49:31,834 are we suggesting that evolution got it wrong? 1022 00:49:34,138 --> 00:49:35,671 NARRATOR: Could it be possible 1023 00:49:35,873 --> 00:49:39,842 that our memories are built the way they are for a reason? 1024 00:49:40,044 --> 00:49:45,147 Why would we be constructed with a memory system 1025 00:49:45,350 --> 00:49:49,285 that is so potentially open to suggestion and change? 1026 00:49:49,487 --> 00:49:52,088 NARRATOR: Perhaps Jake, the 11-year-old boy 1027 00:49:52,290 --> 00:49:53,656 with the amazing memory, 1028 00:49:53,858 --> 00:49:55,825 can help answer that question one day. 1029 00:49:57,362 --> 00:50:00,997 After months of scans, scientists are still searching 1030 00:50:01,199 --> 00:50:03,399 for something to explain his extraordinary ability. 1031 00:50:05,603 --> 00:50:07,303 But even if they don't find anything, 1032 00:50:07,505 --> 00:50:09,138 that's an important clue. 1033 00:50:09,340 --> 00:50:11,974 DOSENBACH: Jake's already telling us something about our memories, 1034 00:50:12,176 --> 00:50:16,445 namely that the human brain has the capability to remember 1035 00:50:16,647 --> 00:50:19,081 your entire life in great detail. 1036 00:50:19,283 --> 00:50:21,717 It's a fascinating question of, why don't we? 1037 00:50:22,820 --> 00:50:25,888 NARRATOR: Consider Jake. 1038 00:50:26,090 --> 00:50:28,224 Though he and other HSAMs love having their special memories, 1039 00:50:28,426 --> 00:50:32,695 even at his young age, he is aware that it comes at a price. 1040 00:50:32,897 --> 00:50:33,929 JAKE: Just like to everything, 1041 00:50:34,132 --> 00:50:36,065 there's an upside and there's a downside. 1042 00:50:36,267 --> 00:50:37,933 The downside is you can remember every bad thing 1043 00:50:38,136 --> 00:50:39,301 that happens to you. 1044 00:50:39,504 --> 00:50:41,837 McCAUGH: They live in different worlds 1045 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,840 than the worlds that you and I live in. 1046 00:50:45,043 --> 00:50:46,909 And you have to wonder, would you like to live in that world? 1047 00:50:48,780 --> 00:50:52,615 NARRATOR: A world where you can't forget. 1048 00:50:52,817 --> 00:50:55,384 Forgetting is probably one of the most important things 1049 00:50:55,586 --> 00:50:57,119 that brains will do. 1050 00:50:57,321 --> 00:51:00,856 Perhaps evolution was smart enough to design a system 1051 00:51:01,059 --> 00:51:03,659 that stores only stuff that's important. 1052 00:51:05,596 --> 00:51:09,031 NARRATOR: Could it be that what we think of as memory's flaws 1053 00:51:09,233 --> 00:51:11,901 are actually part of its strength? 1054 00:51:12,103 --> 00:51:16,405 MARTIN: Maybe we have a misconception of what the purpose of memory is. 1055 00:51:16,607 --> 00:51:19,175 That we think of it more as an accurate recording 1056 00:51:19,377 --> 00:51:24,547 of past experiences as opposed to a creative process 1057 00:51:24,749 --> 00:51:28,050 of combining our experiences over time. 1058 00:51:28,252 --> 00:51:31,720 WALKER: Perhaps the ultimate goal of memory is not to retain 1059 00:51:31,923 --> 00:51:35,658 every single fact that you've learned. 1060 00:51:35,860 --> 00:51:39,328 If you had just this picture- perfect back catalogue 1061 00:51:39,530 --> 00:51:43,399 of 30, 40, 50, 60 years of experience, 1062 00:51:43,601 --> 00:51:45,901 imagine how hard it would be to pick out 1063 00:51:46,104 --> 00:51:48,637 the individual specific experiences that you need 1064 00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,339 at any one moment 1065 00:51:50,541 --> 00:51:53,576 against the backdrop of that sea of noise. 1066 00:51:56,814 --> 00:52:00,649 NARRATOR: Somehow this complex choreography of single cells 1067 00:52:00,852 --> 00:52:02,918 adds up to our memory, 1068 00:52:03,121 --> 00:52:07,223 a mysterious system that allows us to time-travel to the past 1069 00:52:07,425 --> 00:52:09,125 and imagine our future. 1070 00:52:09,327 --> 00:52:11,760 But perhaps memory's ultimate gift 1071 00:52:11,963 --> 00:52:14,497 is a way to navigate that sea of noise 1072 00:52:14,699 --> 00:52:16,632 so we can pick out the experiences 1073 00:52:16,834 --> 00:52:22,004 that each of us weave together to tell the story of our lives. 1074 00:52:31,249 --> 00:52:33,482 The investigation continues online, 1075 00:52:33,684 --> 00:52:36,218 where you can watch this and other NOVA programs. 1076 00:52:36,420 --> 00:52:39,155 Is it ethical to erase memories? 1077 00:52:39,357 --> 00:52:40,823 Find out what scientists have discovered 1078 00:52:41,025 --> 00:52:42,992 that has people asking just that. 1079 00:52:43,194 --> 00:52:45,427 Or discover what neuroscientist Andre Fenton does 1080 00:52:45,630 --> 00:52:46,829 when he's not in the lab 1081 00:52:47,031 --> 00:52:49,031 in his Secret Life of Scientists profile. 1082 00:52:49,233 --> 00:52:52,034 Also, watch original video shorts, 1083 00:52:52,236 --> 00:52:55,204 explore in-depth reporting, and dive into interactives. 1084 00:52:55,406 --> 00:52:57,640 Find us at pbs.org/nova. 1085 00:52:57,842 --> 00:52:59,141 Follow us on Facebook and Twitter. 1086 00:53:01,846 --> 00:53:03,679 The ice man. 1087 00:53:18,496 --> 00:53:21,197 This NOVA program is available on DVD. 1088 00:53:21,399 --> 00:53:26,735 To order, visit shopPBS.org, or call 1-800-PLAY-PBS. 1089 00:53:26,938 --> 00:53:29,438 NOVA is also available for download on iTunes. 97632

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