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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:08,268 --> 00:01:10,999 Wanna get out of the house now, please? 2 00:01:11,071 --> 00:01:13,063 Get the mask on him. 3 00:01:13,173 --> 00:01:17,235 Twenty minutes after the fire started, the emergency services arrived. 4 00:01:17,311 --> 00:01:19,678 Natasha Bloom appeared to be the only survivor. 5 00:01:22,115 --> 00:01:25,176 She had significant burns on her hands, but otherwise she was okay. 6 00:01:28,255 --> 00:01:32,090 Natasha, who was in the house? 7 00:01:34,361 --> 00:01:38,355 - Your mum and dad? - And Claudia. 8 00:01:38,432 --> 00:01:40,632 A month from now, Natasha Bloom will stand trial 9 00:01:40,656 --> 00:01:42,927 for the murders of her parents, Peter and Hannah, 10 00:01:43,003 --> 00:01:45,666 and of her younger sister, Claudia. 11 00:01:45,772 --> 00:01:47,584 I thought Claudia lived in that cottage on the green. 12 00:01:47,608 --> 00:01:50,305 - No, she was staying the night. - With Joshua? 13 00:01:53,647 --> 00:01:55,513 Joshua was spared. 14 00:01:55,616 --> 00:01:57,448 What's happened to the little boy? 15 00:01:57,517 --> 00:02:00,453 He was living with Dad until Dad tried to kill himself. 16 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,716 - Now he's in care. - Okay. 17 00:02:04,057 --> 00:02:07,323 Two years ago, Natasha was referred to me by her GP, 18 00:02:07,394 --> 00:02:10,728 and I administered a course of cognitive behavioural psychiatry. 19 00:02:10,797 --> 00:02:12,772 After the fire, this cropped up in her notes, 20 00:02:12,796 --> 00:02:14,529 and the police asked me if I'd see her. 21 00:02:14,601 --> 00:02:15,933 I agreed. 22 00:02:16,003 --> 00:02:17,494 Claudia... 23 00:02:18,905 --> 00:02:20,430 she was a mule. 24 00:02:21,908 --> 00:02:23,604 You know, a drugs mule. 25 00:02:23,710 --> 00:02:26,839 - Claudia? - Then she got my parents involved. 26 00:02:26,947 --> 00:02:29,194 Natasha told me that prior to starting the 27 00:02:29,218 --> 00:02:31,544 fire, she'd been receiving calls from a man 28 00:02:31,618 --> 00:02:34,247 who told her that she was in great danger from her family. 29 00:02:34,321 --> 00:02:36,483 When you treated Natasha, what was her condition? 30 00:02:36,590 --> 00:02:37,819 She was schizophrenic. 31 00:02:37,891 --> 00:02:39,519 - Sub-type? - Paranoid. 32 00:02:39,626 --> 00:02:42,892 - Command hallucination. - Voices telling her to do things? 33 00:02:44,231 --> 00:02:46,666 I tried to warn you, Henry. 34 00:02:46,733 --> 00:02:49,669 Don't you remember getting a note, an anonymous note? 35 00:02:51,538 --> 00:02:53,666 I remember. 36 00:02:53,740 --> 00:02:55,265 Don't touch my head! 37 00:02:55,342 --> 00:03:00,144 Okay, Natasha! Okay, okay, okay. Calm down. It's only me, Henry. 38 00:03:07,788 --> 00:03:11,589 The mystery caller told Natasha that he was her shepherd. 39 00:03:11,658 --> 00:03:14,856 And he quoted Ezekiel 34. 40 00:03:18,065 --> 00:03:20,000 "As a shepherd seeketh out his flock, 41 00:03:20,067 --> 00:03:23,697 "so will I deliver them out of all places where they have been scattered 42 00:03:23,804 --> 00:03:25,705 "in the cloudy and dark day." 43 00:03:27,140 --> 00:03:29,268 Now, that rang a bell. 44 00:03:29,342 --> 00:03:32,710 As well as doing freelance work, I run Walstead's secure unit, 45 00:03:32,779 --> 00:03:34,975 where I have a patient called Fay Harding, 46 00:03:35,082 --> 00:03:38,610 who murdered the parents of a boy that she was fixated on. 47 00:03:38,719 --> 00:03:41,416 - This was? - This was March, 2001. 48 00:03:41,521 --> 00:03:43,251 After her arrest, 49 00:03:43,356 --> 00:03:45,851 Fay claimed she'd been driven to kill by a 50 00:03:45,875 --> 00:03:48,454 man who told her he was an emissary of God, 51 00:03:48,562 --> 00:03:50,030 and her shepherd. 52 00:03:57,204 --> 00:04:00,299 I went back over Fay's testimony. 53 00:04:00,407 --> 00:04:04,845 Not only was the stranger's opening gambit the same quote from Ezekiel, 54 00:04:04,911 --> 00:04:06,903 it was from the same version of the Bible. 55 00:04:07,013 --> 00:04:09,531 Have you explained this connection to the team 56 00:04:09,555 --> 00:04:12,042 that is investigating the Natasha Bloom case? 57 00:04:12,119 --> 00:04:16,113 Inspector Brooks wants a quick result so the community can heal. 58 00:04:16,723 --> 00:04:20,490 You think this person, this shepherd, is out there? 59 00:04:21,695 --> 00:04:24,790 I think it's a coincidence that I can't explain. 60 00:04:29,269 --> 00:04:31,602 Two women, three years and 50 miles apart. 61 00:04:31,671 --> 00:04:33,711 They suffer the exact same hallucinations, and 62 00:04:33,735 --> 00:04:35,665 then they go on to commit multiple murders. 63 00:04:35,776 --> 00:04:39,645 Natasha Bloom's trial will be the trial of the year. We'll never get near it. 64 00:04:39,713 --> 00:04:41,668 One of my students from the fire investigation 65 00:04:41,692 --> 00:04:43,241 centre is working on the Bloom case. 66 00:04:43,316 --> 00:04:44,409 That could be an in. 67 00:04:44,484 --> 00:04:47,463 Yeah, but the one thing he could tell me was that he couldn't tell me anything. 68 00:04:47,487 --> 00:04:51,322 Look, if Fay Harding had an accomplice, this shepherd, then it's a cold case. 69 00:04:51,424 --> 00:04:53,086 Except there's no evidence that she did. 70 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,527 - Don't tell me you're not curious, Spence. - I'm not. 71 00:04:55,595 --> 00:04:58,497 - Then you should be doing something else. - That's a little harsh, Mel. 72 00:04:58,565 --> 00:05:00,214 Oh, come on. I'm just saying, with all the 73 00:05:00,238 --> 00:05:02,111 evidence we've got, we should be investigating. 74 00:05:02,135 --> 00:05:03,694 Yeah. We will. 75 00:05:17,384 --> 00:05:21,378 Fay Harding's responsibility for the death of your parents is not in doubt. 76 00:05:21,454 --> 00:05:23,389 - But...? - We're considering the possibility, 77 00:05:23,456 --> 00:05:25,550 and it's only a possibility, 78 00:05:25,625 --> 00:05:29,426 that she was manipulated into doing what she did by a third party. 79 00:05:29,496 --> 00:05:32,022 - Who? - We don't know who. 80 00:05:32,098 --> 00:05:34,397 Then what makes it a possibility? 81 00:05:34,467 --> 00:05:37,665 - A similar case has come to light. - Similar how? 82 00:05:37,737 --> 00:05:40,468 That's as much as we can tell you, I'm afraid. 83 00:05:40,540 --> 00:05:45,535 You think it's possible Fay Harding killed my parents at someone else's behest? 84 00:05:46,413 --> 00:05:49,781 It's a theory we want to discount is the best way of looking at it. 85 00:05:49,883 --> 00:05:53,650 You can discount it right now. Fay Harding was a friendless psychopath. 86 00:05:53,753 --> 00:05:55,449 What is it you want from me? 87 00:05:55,555 --> 00:05:58,753 We'd like to talk to you about your relationship with Fay Harding. 88 00:05:58,825 --> 00:06:01,659 A drunken kiss is hardly a relationship. 89 00:06:01,761 --> 00:06:04,626 Is that the extent of your physical contact? 90 00:06:04,650 --> 00:06:05,650 Yes. 91 00:06:06,433 --> 00:06:09,403 Adam, can I speak to you? Now? 92 00:06:10,804 --> 00:06:14,798 Why don't you get off to the surgery? I'll be okay. 93 00:06:16,676 --> 00:06:18,736 Don't let Fay Harding back in. 94 00:06:25,518 --> 00:06:27,749 That is one shit-eating grin. 95 00:06:27,821 --> 00:06:30,586 Gary Duke, Adam's father. 96 00:06:30,690 --> 00:06:35,754 Born in Stepney, entered the army as a private, eventually became a colonel. 97 00:06:35,829 --> 00:06:37,195 Well, that's a career arc. 98 00:06:37,264 --> 00:06:41,031 Before getting dishonourably discharged in 1985. 99 00:06:41,101 --> 00:06:44,196 - What for? - Killed two fellow officers. 100 00:06:45,472 --> 00:06:47,703 - Dishonourably discharged? - It was self-defence. 101 00:06:47,807 --> 00:06:49,400 He'd slept with one of their wives. 102 00:06:49,476 --> 00:06:52,446 Good Lord. That's what the grin's for. 103 00:06:52,512 --> 00:06:58,179 Five years later he was head of the fifth largest security firm in Europe. 104 00:06:58,285 --> 00:07:02,450 Then on the 27th of March, 2001, the Duke family are about to sit down 105 00:07:02,522 --> 00:07:05,890 for a Sunday lunch when Fay Harding appears. 106 00:07:10,163 --> 00:07:12,962 Gary and his son disagree about whether or not to let her in. 107 00:07:13,033 --> 00:07:14,934 Briefly, Adam prevails. 108 00:07:15,001 --> 00:07:17,368 You go through that door, you're no longer a son of mine. 109 00:07:17,437 --> 00:07:20,771 Let me just talk to her and tell her it's all over, all right? 110 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,002 - All right. - God! 111 00:07:30,083 --> 00:07:32,951 But when Adam decides she's got to go, 112 00:07:33,053 --> 00:07:37,149 Fay loses it and throws a pan of boiling water in his face. 113 00:07:41,394 --> 00:07:44,922 This was taken on his admission to the Chelsea and Westminster Burns Unit. 114 00:07:45,899 --> 00:07:50,803 When Adam's father intervenes, Fay grabbed a kitchen knife, 115 00:07:51,871 --> 00:07:55,069 stabs him in the chest and he goes down. Then she stabs him again 116 00:07:56,242 --> 00:07:57,608 and again 117 00:07:57,677 --> 00:07:59,578 - and again. - How many times? 118 00:07:59,646 --> 00:08:01,239 Seven times in total. 119 00:08:01,314 --> 00:08:07,083 His neck was so lacerated that his head almost came off his body. 120 00:08:07,153 --> 00:08:09,054 That wiped the smile off his face. 121 00:08:09,122 --> 00:08:11,819 - Grace! - Oh, sorry. Sorry. 122 00:08:11,891 --> 00:08:14,156 Erm, what about the mother, Lindsay Duke? 123 00:08:14,260 --> 00:08:17,128 No, she's the stepmother. They'd been married... 124 00:08:17,197 --> 00:08:19,757 - Er, three years. - Three years. 125 00:08:19,866 --> 00:08:22,028 Well, the pattern of bloody footprints in the hallway 126 00:08:22,135 --> 00:08:25,105 suggests that Fay went looking for her in quite a hurry. 127 00:08:27,374 --> 00:08:29,775 Lindsay made a temporary escape... 128 00:08:31,144 --> 00:08:34,012 but she couldn't scale the eight-foot electrified fence. 129 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,605 That's Duke Security for you. 130 00:08:36,883 --> 00:08:40,012 There was only light trauma from the knife on Lindsay's chest. 131 00:08:42,088 --> 00:08:44,216 And bruising around her throat. 132 00:08:46,059 --> 00:08:48,961 SOCOs did find Fay's fingerprints on Lindsay's neck, 133 00:08:49,062 --> 00:08:54,160 but the actual cause of death was a massive heart attack. 134 00:08:54,267 --> 00:08:56,964 So, not quite so easy to kill the woman. 135 00:09:05,211 --> 00:09:07,043 Detective Superintendent Boyd. 136 00:09:07,113 --> 00:09:09,378 - Boyd and...? - Dr Foley. 137 00:09:29,102 --> 00:09:32,004 That's A Block, where we keep the nevers. 138 00:09:32,072 --> 00:09:35,873 Ah, never get better or never get out? 139 00:09:35,975 --> 00:09:39,468 With some patients the risk of relapse outweighs all proof of recovery, 140 00:09:39,579 --> 00:09:43,744 but with medication they can lead something approaching a fruitful life. 141 00:09:43,850 --> 00:09:46,752 Is Fay Harding a never? 142 00:09:46,853 --> 00:09:48,879 She was. 143 00:09:48,955 --> 00:09:52,915 Now I'm not sure. Did I mention she's appealing to be released? 144 00:09:52,992 --> 00:09:57,487 - Appealing, as in, you're against it? - Her father's talked her into it. 145 00:09:57,564 --> 00:09:59,151 She's really quite happy here. 146 00:09:59,175 --> 00:10:01,592 Well, I'm not surprised. It's very nice. 147 00:10:03,203 --> 00:10:05,069 What did you tell her about us? 148 00:10:05,171 --> 00:10:07,766 That you're investigating someone claiming to be delusional 149 00:10:07,841 --> 00:10:09,742 and you wanted to meet the real deal. 150 00:10:11,578 --> 00:10:13,979 What a beautiful garden. 151 00:10:17,150 --> 00:10:18,675 Hello, Fay. 152 00:10:24,257 --> 00:10:26,954 - Hello, Fay. - Hi. 153 00:10:34,300 --> 00:10:38,761 Fay, we're not here to talk about the deaths of Lindsay and Gary Duke. 154 00:10:38,838 --> 00:10:42,605 We're more interested in the... In the events that led up to that day. 155 00:10:44,110 --> 00:10:47,512 Events are real. I'm the last person you should ask. 156 00:10:49,082 --> 00:10:51,442 But am I right in saying that you believed 157 00:10:51,466 --> 00:10:54,077 you were having a relationship with Adam Duke? 158 00:10:57,557 --> 00:11:00,886 And that there was a stranger, a guardian angel... 159 00:11:00,910 --> 00:11:01,910 Shepherd. 160 00:11:03,429 --> 00:11:05,762 He wasn't real either. 161 00:11:05,832 --> 00:11:08,825 - Do you believe that? - My mind does. 162 00:11:10,003 --> 00:11:12,598 But you still have the memories, is that it? 163 00:11:14,174 --> 00:11:16,837 Would you share those memories with us? 164 00:11:18,978 --> 00:11:21,277 Why? They didn't happen. 165 00:11:24,150 --> 00:11:25,550 David? 166 00:11:26,986 --> 00:11:29,251 This was my idea, Fay. 167 00:11:30,123 --> 00:11:32,183 If you don't want to... 168 00:11:36,129 --> 00:11:40,533 I always had a problem with reality. 169 00:11:42,168 --> 00:11:46,401 I saw a psychiatrist a few times at school, but Dad put a stop to it. 170 00:11:46,906 --> 00:11:50,070 He said they were all atheists in the pay of the devil. 171 00:11:51,177 --> 00:11:53,271 Is your father religious? 172 00:11:53,346 --> 00:11:56,544 You could say that. He's the sacristan at church. 173 00:11:58,351 --> 00:12:03,255 Fact is, if you really need something, 174 00:12:04,190 --> 00:12:06,785 not just want it, 175 00:12:06,893 --> 00:12:08,759 nothing can get in the way. 176 00:12:09,762 --> 00:12:11,560 Not even reality. 177 00:12:12,265 --> 00:12:14,530 Is that how you felt about Adam Duke? 178 00:12:17,804 --> 00:12:21,172 I can't remember what he looks like now, 179 00:12:21,241 --> 00:12:23,642 but I remember how I felt, 180 00:12:23,710 --> 00:12:26,043 seeing him for the first time. 181 00:12:26,846 --> 00:12:28,542 It was like... 182 00:12:30,783 --> 00:12:32,308 I'd been punched. 183 00:13:00,513 --> 00:13:04,143 He kept coming over, even though his girlfriend... 184 00:13:04,250 --> 00:13:06,776 fiancée, was sat right there with his mates. 185 00:13:23,169 --> 00:13:26,606 I went downstairs to change a barrel. 186 00:13:27,473 --> 00:13:30,910 Even before I saw him, I knew Adam was there. 187 00:13:35,515 --> 00:13:37,541 He kissed me 188 00:13:37,650 --> 00:13:41,143 and that's where the split comes between what happened 189 00:13:41,220 --> 00:13:44,418 and what was just in my head. 190 00:13:45,191 --> 00:13:49,822 Can we stick to what you believe happened? 191 00:13:55,001 --> 00:13:57,095 He was gentle. 192 00:13:58,104 --> 00:14:00,039 He knew it was my first time. 193 00:14:08,514 --> 00:14:10,483 You remember having sex? 194 00:14:14,954 --> 00:14:19,016 And the next day, and the day after that. 195 00:14:20,827 --> 00:14:24,195 We were lovers. We did it everywhere. 196 00:14:26,366 --> 00:14:28,392 All over his house. 197 00:14:29,235 --> 00:14:30,703 In every room. 198 00:14:31,738 --> 00:14:33,707 In his parents' bed. 199 00:14:42,715 --> 00:14:44,547 Except we didn't. 200 00:14:48,521 --> 00:14:53,653 If we had been in a relationship, her behaviour would have almost been normal. 201 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,821 One day she came round with a bottle of wine. 202 00:14:56,929 --> 00:15:00,093 I opened the door and she breezed right past me saying, 203 00:15:00,199 --> 00:15:02,464 "Oh, I thought we'd just stay in this evening." 204 00:15:02,568 --> 00:15:04,469 What did you do? 205 00:15:04,537 --> 00:15:06,597 I let her stay for half an hour. 206 00:15:06,672 --> 00:15:10,165 - Did she make a pass at you? - Probably. She usually did. 207 00:15:12,345 --> 00:15:14,780 Was I tempted? Yes. 208 00:15:16,582 --> 00:15:19,313 - Did I succumb? No. - Never? 209 00:15:19,385 --> 00:15:20,785 Never. 210 00:15:20,887 --> 00:15:24,824 - How did you get rid of her? - I just escorted her down to the lane. 211 00:15:26,325 --> 00:15:28,021 Sounds painless. 212 00:15:28,961 --> 00:15:31,396 I never saw any violence in her till that day. 213 00:15:32,965 --> 00:15:36,663 Had your parents met Fay before that day? 214 00:15:36,769 --> 00:15:40,638 No, they spent weekdays at Dad's place in Holland Park. 215 00:15:40,706 --> 00:15:44,643 And why were you at home so much, if you don't mind me asking? 216 00:15:44,710 --> 00:15:47,077 I was due to start medical school that autumn. 217 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:49,514 Did you? 218 00:15:52,718 --> 00:15:54,550 And Duke Security? 219 00:15:56,355 --> 00:16:00,019 I didn't want to run his life's work into the ground, 220 00:16:00,126 --> 00:16:02,960 - which is what I would have done. - And now? 221 00:16:05,398 --> 00:16:09,859 Now I can't be around anyone for long, except Bryony. 222 00:16:09,936 --> 00:16:13,031 Don't get her wrong. Bryony's a saint. 223 00:16:14,106 --> 00:16:17,076 - What about Fay? - I try not to hate her. 224 00:16:17,910 --> 00:16:19,776 That's very generous. Why? 225 00:16:21,747 --> 00:16:24,717 Long before Dad could afford ad agencies, 226 00:16:24,784 --> 00:16:27,549 he came up with Duke Security's tagline. 227 00:16:29,021 --> 00:16:31,513 "You're only as strong as your weakest link." 228 00:16:33,860 --> 00:16:35,761 He was dead right. 229 00:16:37,363 --> 00:16:39,559 You talking about yourself? 230 00:16:39,632 --> 00:16:44,195 I was educated, sane, not to mention engaged, 231 00:16:48,574 --> 00:16:50,702 and I let her in. 232 00:16:50,776 --> 00:16:54,975 After the party, I felt disgusting. 233 00:16:55,081 --> 00:16:59,610 Dad was upset 'cause he could smell the drink on me, and so I went to confession. 234 00:17:19,272 --> 00:17:22,731 The light wasn't on in the confessional, 235 00:17:22,842 --> 00:17:25,676 but I could see someone in there. 236 00:17:25,745 --> 00:17:28,010 I knew straightaway it wasn't Father Peter. 237 00:17:31,717 --> 00:17:35,119 He said he knew my name and what I'd come to confess. 238 00:17:35,187 --> 00:17:37,156 And did he? 239 00:17:38,357 --> 00:17:43,591 He said it was nothing to be ashamed of, that Adam loved me, 240 00:17:43,663 --> 00:17:46,656 and God wanted us to have a child. 241 00:17:48,901 --> 00:17:51,234 I said, "How could that be true?" 242 00:17:52,338 --> 00:17:55,467 How could he know all these things? 243 00:17:57,310 --> 00:17:59,074 And he said 244 00:17:59,145 --> 00:18:03,549 if I didn't have the grace to accept God's gifts, 245 00:18:03,616 --> 00:18:08,350 then I deserved to die, miserable and alone, 246 00:18:09,055 --> 00:18:10,819 without knowing love. 247 00:18:12,191 --> 00:18:17,027 - Do you have any idea who this person was? - No. He wasn't real. 248 00:18:17,096 --> 00:18:20,191 But he was there. I mean, there was somebody there. 249 00:18:23,603 --> 00:18:25,094 Go on. 250 00:18:28,708 --> 00:18:30,472 If it wasn't for the crucifix... 251 00:18:32,545 --> 00:18:35,379 He passed me a crucifix through the grill. 252 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,031 And where is it, this crucifix? 253 00:18:58,771 --> 00:19:00,763 It's in her possession box. 254 00:19:01,874 --> 00:19:04,503 - Fay. - Dad? 255 00:19:06,379 --> 00:19:10,180 - Who are these people? - They're police officers, Mr Harding. 256 00:19:11,283 --> 00:19:14,515 Oh. I'll be raising this at the appeal. 257 00:19:14,587 --> 00:19:18,786 This is the crucifix that Fay Harding said that she was given by the shepherd. 258 00:19:18,858 --> 00:19:22,090 Now, the world standard for silver purity is sterling. 259 00:19:22,194 --> 00:19:26,097 Basically, anything less than 92.5% purity doesn't make the grade. 260 00:19:26,198 --> 00:19:27,222 And this is? 261 00:19:27,299 --> 00:19:30,667 Well, I did my own DIY test with nitric acid, as you can see. 262 00:19:30,803 --> 00:19:35,571 Now, depending on the purity, it’ll go from orange to pink to red. 263 00:19:35,675 --> 00:19:38,076 - Wow. So this is tops? - Yeah. 264 00:19:38,144 --> 00:19:40,579 - Valuable, then? - About as valuable as silver gets. 265 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,808 - So that's quite a gift. - Mmm-hmm. 266 00:19:42,915 --> 00:19:45,783 - And it's a hell of a hallmark, too. - I know. Fancy. 267 00:19:45,885 --> 00:19:47,649 Okay, yeah, fancy. 268 00:19:47,753 --> 00:19:51,713 How did you get on with your fire investigator man? 269 00:19:54,060 --> 00:19:55,551 Boyd. 270 00:19:55,628 --> 00:19:58,393 He's emailing me over Natasha Bloom's arrest sheet, 271 00:19:58,464 --> 00:20:01,332 and believe you me, that was under duress. 272 00:20:01,434 --> 00:20:03,835 I thought you had influence and power over these people. 273 00:20:03,903 --> 00:20:04,685 Yeah, so did I. 274 00:20:04,709 --> 00:20:07,032 All these little men that you like to dominate. 275 00:20:07,106 --> 00:20:08,699 Don't I wish. 276 00:20:08,974 --> 00:20:11,102 How the hell did Fay Harding get off? 277 00:20:11,177 --> 00:20:13,737 She didn't get off. She got detained under the Mental Health Act. 278 00:20:13,813 --> 00:20:16,191 Even though she had the presence of mind to kill a fleeing witness? 279 00:20:16,215 --> 00:20:19,242 She needs the Home Secretary's say-so to get a release. 280 00:20:19,351 --> 00:20:22,617 Let's hope that she never gets it. 281 00:20:50,349 --> 00:20:52,045 That's our in. 282 00:20:52,151 --> 00:20:54,129 Do you have a copy of the scene inventory? 283 00:20:54,153 --> 00:20:56,153 My involvement is exclusively related to the fire. 284 00:20:56,188 --> 00:20:58,885 I just need to see the hallmark on the back of this crucifix. 285 00:20:58,991 --> 00:21:00,789 - That's personal effects. - Yeah. 286 00:21:00,860 --> 00:21:03,038 I just told you, Frankie, I don't have a scene inventory. 287 00:21:03,062 --> 00:21:04,690 But you do have access to it. 288 00:21:04,797 --> 00:21:05,808 Not without a good reason. 289 00:21:05,832 --> 00:21:07,642 Isn't working on the case a good enough reason? 290 00:21:07,666 --> 00:21:10,727 - Come on, Nick. I gave you a B. - Why don't you go in the front door? 291 00:21:10,836 --> 00:21:12,930 I tried. Inspector Brooks is ready for trial. 292 00:21:13,038 --> 00:21:15,951 And you want me to repay him by going behind his back without telling me why? 293 00:21:15,975 --> 00:21:17,375 Repay him? 294 00:21:17,476 --> 00:21:19,911 He gave me a break, requesting me for this case. 295 00:21:19,979 --> 00:21:21,743 How did he know who you were? 296 00:21:21,814 --> 00:21:24,306 - Him and my dad play golf together. - Oh. 297 00:21:24,383 --> 00:21:26,648 He chose you so he could manipulate you. 298 00:21:26,752 --> 00:21:30,052 You've got a lot to learn about the art of persuasion, Frankie. 299 00:21:30,156 --> 00:21:32,990 Yeah, sorry. That was out of order. 300 00:21:34,460 --> 00:21:36,088 No, it wasn't. 301 00:21:37,296 --> 00:21:40,604 Boyd, obviously, I can't take this off-site, 302 00:21:40,628 --> 00:21:43,429 but this is Natasha Bloom's crucifix, 303 00:21:44,170 --> 00:21:48,574 and it's got exactly the same hallmark on the back as Fay Harding's. 304 00:21:48,908 --> 00:21:51,707 - Okay. - And I've traced it. Look. 305 00:21:52,611 --> 00:21:57,549 Now, usually it's the maker's mark on the back, but very occasionally it's a place. 306 00:21:57,616 --> 00:22:01,610 Cuazo Duarte is a small town 50 miles outside Naples. 307 00:22:01,687 --> 00:22:06,216 In 1954, it was wiped out by an earthquake, silversmiths and all. 308 00:22:06,292 --> 00:22:08,625 So these haven't been made for 50 years. 309 00:22:08,694 --> 00:22:12,825 Now, I'm checking all of London's antique jewellery outlets going back to 2000. 310 00:22:12,898 --> 00:22:16,426 - Makes them extremely rare, yeah? - As rocking-horse shit. 311 00:22:16,502 --> 00:22:20,064 Thanks, Frankie. This gets us a meeting with Natasha Bloom. 312 00:22:21,106 --> 00:22:23,203 I think I'm right in saying that after Manchester, 313 00:22:23,227 --> 00:22:25,009 Liverpool's the biggest city in the north. 314 00:22:25,110 --> 00:22:27,705 Anyway, Daddy was part of a big old family there. 315 00:22:27,780 --> 00:22:30,375 His grandfather started some sort of business, shipping I think, 316 00:22:30,449 --> 00:22:32,941 but I don't know exactly where because I've never been. 317 00:22:33,018 --> 00:22:34,850 But I really must one day. 318 00:22:34,954 --> 00:22:37,685 Natasha, is this your crucifix? 319 00:22:41,193 --> 00:22:43,924 - Yes. - Would you like it back? 320 00:22:45,664 --> 00:22:48,532 - Why, what have you done to it? - Nothing. 321 00:22:50,536 --> 00:22:52,505 Okay, then. Yes, please. 322 00:22:53,205 --> 00:22:54,867 Very beautiful. 323 00:22:56,942 --> 00:22:59,502 - Where did you get it from? - It came in the post. 324 00:23:01,513 --> 00:23:02,811 I won it. 325 00:23:04,483 --> 00:23:07,385 - Do you still have the package it came in? - No. 326 00:23:07,453 --> 00:23:11,584 I'm always winning things, much to Daddy's extreme irritation. 327 00:23:11,657 --> 00:23:13,489 "Tash, dearest," he says, 328 00:23:13,592 --> 00:23:17,495 "do you really think these people would run these things if they weren't coining it?" 329 00:23:17,563 --> 00:23:20,158 - And I say... - Somebody's got to win. 330 00:23:20,266 --> 00:23:24,362 Exactly! You're not a competition hound as well, are you? 331 00:23:24,470 --> 00:23:26,336 No, no, but my mother was. 332 00:23:26,405 --> 00:23:31,400 Now, you see, my mother is a classic closet competition fiend. 333 00:23:48,494 --> 00:23:51,293 - What's that? - Kevlar. 334 00:23:52,097 --> 00:23:55,363 Aircraft manufacture. What the hell is that doing in her bedroom? 335 00:23:55,534 --> 00:23:59,198 - Inspector Brooks didn't follow it up. - Why doesn't that surprise me? 336 00:23:59,305 --> 00:24:00,773 - Frankie? - Yeah? 337 00:24:00,839 --> 00:24:04,037 After Natasha lost her job as a primary school teacher, 338 00:24:04,143 --> 00:24:05,987 she moved into the top floor of her parents' house. 339 00:24:06,011 --> 00:24:07,411 Yeah. 340 00:24:07,479 --> 00:24:10,449 - There were no phone points in here. - So? 341 00:24:10,549 --> 00:24:14,077 So how was the shepherd calling her? 342 00:24:15,087 --> 00:24:16,817 We're not saying he is God, are we? 343 00:24:19,224 --> 00:24:22,422 Natasha, where do you think you are right now? 344 00:24:23,862 --> 00:24:25,797 Police station. 345 00:24:25,898 --> 00:24:28,527 And why are you here, do you think? 346 00:24:29,501 --> 00:24:31,527 To help you find my family. 347 00:24:33,806 --> 00:24:35,900 My real family. 348 00:24:35,975 --> 00:24:37,705 Real, as opposed to... 349 00:24:41,613 --> 00:24:43,479 You're so crude. 350 00:24:46,251 --> 00:24:48,880 I was gonna give you the benefit of the doubt. 351 00:24:48,988 --> 00:24:52,015 I promised I wouldn't, but then that's me, always seeing the best in people. 352 00:24:52,091 --> 00:24:54,026 Promised? Promised who? 353 00:24:56,362 --> 00:24:57,421 Hmm? 354 00:25:00,566 --> 00:25:04,298 Natasha, Dr Carney was telling us about your friend. 355 00:25:05,604 --> 00:25:07,766 Your friend on the telephone. 356 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,743 My friend on the telephone? Who do you think I am, a pissing baby? 357 00:25:14,213 --> 00:25:16,773 Sorry, you were telling me about your mother liking competitions. 358 00:25:16,849 --> 00:25:19,580 What were her favourites? It was cereal boxes got me going. 359 00:25:19,651 --> 00:25:22,120 Six Alpen coupons got me a figurine of Black Beauty, 360 00:25:22,221 --> 00:25:24,918 but they sent the Cutty Sark by mistake. 361 00:25:25,024 --> 00:25:29,985 So Mummy wrote to complain and then they sent back two to compensate. 362 00:25:30,095 --> 00:25:31,791 Black Beauties, not Cutty Sarks. 363 00:25:31,897 --> 00:25:34,799 So I gave one to Claudia for her tenth birthday, 364 00:25:34,900 --> 00:25:38,098 and I think she kept it. In fact, I think she's still got it. 365 00:25:40,305 --> 00:25:42,740 - What about David Carney? - Hand it over to him? 366 00:25:42,808 --> 00:25:44,333 Natasha knows him, trusts him. 367 00:25:44,410 --> 00:25:46,845 He's the only person she's spoken to about the shepherd. 368 00:25:46,945 --> 00:25:49,676 But his version of events hasn't exactly checked out. 369 00:25:49,782 --> 00:25:53,082 Now, he told us Natasha was getting phone calls from the shepherd. 370 00:25:53,185 --> 00:25:54,298 Did she mention that? 371 00:25:54,322 --> 00:25:56,644 We got a little bit hooked on the Cutty Sark. 372 00:25:56,722 --> 00:26:01,092 Well, she didn't have a phone, mobile or landline. And she didn't get out much. 373 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,097 Well, even more of a reason to get Carney in. He can clarify that. 374 00:26:07,132 --> 00:26:08,293 You think? 375 00:26:11,603 --> 00:26:15,165 - Sorry we had to meet here. - It's fine. It was short notice. 376 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,209 I'm going to my brother's PhD ceremony. 377 00:26:17,276 --> 00:26:19,802 - Bit of a three-line whip. - Oh, right. Older or younger? 378 00:26:19,878 --> 00:26:22,507 Older. Younger at heart, he'd say. 379 00:26:23,649 --> 00:26:25,447 I checked back through my notes. 380 00:26:25,517 --> 00:26:29,750 Natasha Bloom never referred to phone calls, only "calls". 381 00:26:34,393 --> 00:26:37,522 You've found something linking Fay Harding and Natasha Bloom. 382 00:26:37,596 --> 00:26:38,791 Yes. 383 00:26:39,998 --> 00:26:41,728 But you can't tell me. 384 00:26:43,135 --> 00:26:46,003 Your boss wants help unlocking Natasha. 385 00:26:46,071 --> 00:26:48,666 Actually, it was my idea to come to you. 386 00:26:52,044 --> 00:26:54,479 Do you know what shadow aspect is? 387 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:56,714 No. 388 00:26:56,815 --> 00:27:01,014 We keep a part of our brain locked up in a dark corner 389 00:27:01,086 --> 00:27:05,148 because its urges and ideas are completely unacceptable. 390 00:27:05,257 --> 00:27:09,592 If we're wronged, that's the part that cries out for vengeance. 391 00:27:10,562 --> 00:27:12,588 Yeah, I hear what you're saying. 392 00:27:12,698 --> 00:27:15,677 We all have those feelings, but we just don't act on those darker instincts. 393 00:27:15,701 --> 00:27:19,433 Exactly. But Natasha Bloom couldn't do that. 394 00:27:19,538 --> 00:27:23,373 Her self-image as loving big sister was so entrenched, 395 00:27:23,442 --> 00:27:26,254 it was actually easier for her to believe that Claudia was a drug dealer 396 00:27:26,278 --> 00:27:29,612 than to admit that she had feelings of envy and resentment. 397 00:27:29,681 --> 00:27:32,810 So by suppressing these feelings she ended up killing her? 398 00:27:32,885 --> 00:27:37,880 If you want the real Natasha Bloom, these are the feelings that you have to engage. 399 00:27:40,859 --> 00:27:43,829 - Back door. - Opened onto the garden. 400 00:27:43,929 --> 00:27:46,899 Now there was only smoke damage in the kitchen. 401 00:27:46,965 --> 00:27:51,665 Soot deposit on the outside of the door, but not the inside. 402 00:27:51,770 --> 00:27:53,781 The backdoor was open when the fire brigade arrived. 403 00:27:53,805 --> 00:27:55,569 Probably jammed on the doorstop. 404 00:27:55,641 --> 00:27:59,043 - Suggesting someone opened it with force. - Mmm-hmm. 405 00:27:59,111 --> 00:28:00,807 I’ll give you "mmm-hmm". 406 00:28:00,879 --> 00:28:04,338 There's blue plaster all over the lock where it smashed against the wall. 407 00:28:06,752 --> 00:28:10,655 Natasha Bloom's one act of mercy? She carried her nephew out onto the lawn. 408 00:28:10,722 --> 00:28:13,453 Yeah, but why open the door with such force? 409 00:28:14,326 --> 00:28:18,821 - She was fleeing a burning building. - I'm sorry. I'm not buying that, you see. 410 00:28:18,931 --> 00:28:23,960 Sorry, it speaks to me of somebody smashing their way in, 411 00:28:25,003 --> 00:28:26,266 not rushing out. 412 00:28:45,958 --> 00:28:49,827 There you go. Shoeprint. 413 00:28:49,928 --> 00:28:52,762 - I should have seen this. - Well, now you have. 414 00:28:52,831 --> 00:28:55,440 You see, part of the trouble is society's tendency 415 00:28:55,464 --> 00:28:58,202 to believe all mentally ill people have good hearts. 416 00:28:58,270 --> 00:29:02,105 They don't. Most of them are shits, just like the rest of us. 417 00:29:02,207 --> 00:29:04,506 Have you always been this cynical? 418 00:29:04,610 --> 00:29:07,637 That word conjures up surly sixth formers with anarchy badges. 419 00:29:07,713 --> 00:29:09,238 Yeah, that sounds about right. 420 00:29:09,314 --> 00:29:12,944 - What, this is the thanks I get? - You're a little too old-in-your-shoes. 421 00:29:13,051 --> 00:29:14,952 It has been said before. 422 00:29:20,525 --> 00:29:23,689 - Dr Carney, I'll cut to the chase. - Will I interview Natasha Bloom? 423 00:29:25,397 --> 00:29:28,026 David! Hey, hey! 424 00:29:28,267 --> 00:29:30,634 - David! How you doing? - Matt. I'm all right. How are you? 425 00:29:30,736 --> 00:29:34,264 Good to see you. And who is this? 426 00:29:34,373 --> 00:29:36,274 I was going to ask you the same question. 427 00:29:36,375 --> 00:29:38,674 - Ah, yes. This is... - Rachel. 428 00:29:38,744 --> 00:29:41,009 Rachel. And, sorry, you are...? 429 00:29:41,079 --> 00:29:42,672 - DS Silver. - Mel. 430 00:29:42,748 --> 00:29:44,717 - Mel. - What's your PhD in? 431 00:29:44,783 --> 00:29:47,048 Magnetic resonance imaging of the brain, 432 00:29:47,119 --> 00:29:49,520 although David thinks it's more sci-fi than psychology. 433 00:29:49,588 --> 00:29:51,750 - Not true. - Listen, Mel. 434 00:29:51,823 --> 00:29:54,702 I've got to don the old cape and board for an hour or so, but after that, 435 00:29:54,726 --> 00:29:55,921 we are gonna party. 436 00:29:55,994 --> 00:29:57,826 Oh, that's a really sweet offer, but I... 437 00:29:57,929 --> 00:30:02,230 Sorry. No buts. Listen, David's been out of action for way too long, 438 00:30:02,334 --> 00:30:04,498 and quite frankly I don't want him eyeing up, er... 439 00:30:04,522 --> 00:30:04,894 Rachel. 440 00:30:05,003 --> 00:30:06,835 - Rachel. - Mel, we're holding you up. 441 00:30:06,905 --> 00:30:12,003 Well, no one ever said on their deathbed, "I wish I'd spent more time at work," so... 442 00:30:12,077 --> 00:30:14,431 Oh, I don't know. I think Dad might have said 443 00:30:14,455 --> 00:30:16,674 something pretty similar, eh, David? Uh... 444 00:30:16,748 --> 00:30:19,081 - It was a pleasure, Mel. See you later. - Okay. 445 00:30:19,151 --> 00:30:20,517 See you. 446 00:30:21,853 --> 00:30:24,914 Do you know what you're letting yourself in for? 447 00:30:24,990 --> 00:30:27,016 Not really, no. 448 00:30:29,494 --> 00:30:31,986 - Mmm-hmm. - Grace, can I have a word please? 449 00:30:32,064 --> 00:30:33,259 Yeah. 450 00:30:33,365 --> 00:30:36,858 I've just been re-reading Natasha Bloom's statement, ready for round two. 451 00:30:36,968 --> 00:30:38,813 Ah, round two, that's what I wanted to talk to you about. 452 00:30:38,837 --> 00:30:41,807 We've got to interview her again. We got absolutely nowhere this morning. 453 00:30:41,873 --> 00:30:43,772 No, we didn't, but next time... 454 00:30:43,796 --> 00:30:46,709 You see, Frankie said that the fire investigator 455 00:30:46,812 --> 00:30:51,477 had no idea why Natasha started the fire from this spot. 456 00:30:51,550 --> 00:30:53,178 But I've had an idea. 457 00:30:53,285 --> 00:30:55,491 Now, amongst other convictions, Natasha 458 00:30:55,515 --> 00:30:58,087 believes that everything on the left is evil. 459 00:30:58,156 --> 00:30:59,954 - Like the Romans. - Like her hand, 460 00:31:00,025 --> 00:31:02,688 the rooms in the house on the left-hand side, 461 00:31:02,761 --> 00:31:05,606 - the left-hand wall of the house... - Which is where she poured the petrol. 462 00:31:05,630 --> 00:31:07,861 Exactly, and that's where the fire started. 463 00:31:07,966 --> 00:31:11,403 I really do believe she planned this in every detail. 464 00:31:11,470 --> 00:31:14,201 You were saying about the, um... 465 00:31:19,478 --> 00:31:21,640 Oh, I'm so sorry. What did you want? 466 00:31:26,351 --> 00:31:28,946 This is the tread of the Galaxy 7 trainer. 467 00:31:30,589 --> 00:31:33,320 - Not fire department issue. - No. 468 00:31:33,392 --> 00:31:38,057 Here's the footprint on the door. You see, zooming in, at an angle. 469 00:31:39,664 --> 00:31:42,657 Could the kick mark predate the night of the fire? 470 00:31:42,768 --> 00:31:45,294 Well, it's possible. 471 00:31:48,774 --> 00:31:50,037 There you go. 472 00:31:51,443 --> 00:31:54,743 Yeah, but who'd kick their way into a burning building? 473 00:31:54,846 --> 00:31:58,874 - A hero. - A hero who's never come forward since? 474 00:31:59,684 --> 00:32:03,416 Well, maybe because he couldn't explain how he got there so fast. 475 00:32:09,761 --> 00:32:13,721 - Where the hell's Rebecca? - You upset her, Matt. She's gone. 476 00:32:13,799 --> 00:32:16,166 - I think it was Rachel. - Whatever. 477 00:32:16,234 --> 00:32:20,103 Hey. Matt Carney, PhD. 478 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,000 Dr Carney, no less. 479 00:32:24,075 --> 00:32:27,102 Of course, I'll never be a real doctor, not like you and Dad, eh? 480 00:32:30,749 --> 00:32:34,709 It's a shame he couldn't be here tonight. Dad. 481 00:32:34,786 --> 00:32:37,017 - He would have been very proud. - Wouldn't he? 482 00:32:37,122 --> 00:32:38,886 Wouldn't he? 483 00:32:38,957 --> 00:32:42,587 Or would he have ruined it all with some innocently poisonous remark? 484 00:32:45,330 --> 00:32:48,027 Hey, hey, look. Hang on. Nearly forgot. 485 00:32:51,770 --> 00:32:54,262 Your copy of my thesis. 486 00:32:54,372 --> 00:32:56,307 Couldn't have done it without you. 487 00:32:57,676 --> 00:32:59,440 It was a pleasure to help. 488 00:32:59,511 --> 00:33:03,539 "It was a pleasure to help." He's priceless, isn't he, Mel? Eh? 489 00:33:03,648 --> 00:33:05,173 Come here. 490 00:33:05,917 --> 00:33:07,351 Spence. 491 00:33:07,452 --> 00:33:11,287 Remember that Ezekiel quote David Carney read the other day? 492 00:33:11,356 --> 00:33:14,224 Well, just let me read you a little bit more. 493 00:33:14,326 --> 00:33:16,795 "And I will set up one shepherd over them, 494 00:33:16,862 --> 00:33:20,856 "and he shall feed them, even my servant David. 495 00:33:21,633 --> 00:33:25,092 "He shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd." 496 00:33:28,306 --> 00:33:31,538 Someone had to have chosen that passage. 497 00:33:31,643 --> 00:33:34,135 Are we being made mugs of here, Spence? 498 00:33:34,246 --> 00:33:36,340 - By David Carney? - Mmm. 499 00:33:36,948 --> 00:33:39,440 Perhaps it would be a good idea to do a five-year trawl, 500 00:33:39,518 --> 00:33:42,920 you know, crimes of violence, female schizophrenics. 501 00:33:42,988 --> 00:33:45,287 See if Carney's name turns up anywhere else. 502 00:33:45,357 --> 00:33:48,521 - Can't hurt. - You mean this trawl? 503 00:33:50,428 --> 00:33:54,627 - Knock yourself out. - Oh, Spence, I love you. 504 00:33:59,704 --> 00:34:01,798 Well, you must have had a great night. 505 00:34:01,873 --> 00:34:05,071 Two dysfunctional brothers and a mute escort girl. 506 00:34:05,143 --> 00:34:08,113 You know what? He looks up to you. 507 00:34:08,213 --> 00:34:11,052 It's a little bit more complicated than that. 508 00:34:11,076 --> 00:34:12,173 Oh, right. Okay. 509 00:34:13,552 --> 00:34:16,522 Sorry. Did that sound really patronising? 510 00:34:16,588 --> 00:34:19,217 - A little bit. Yeah. - Well, I'm sorry. 511 00:34:19,324 --> 00:34:20,908 You should stop saying sorry. 512 00:34:20,932 --> 00:34:23,318 Then I apologise for my brother's behaviour. 513 00:34:23,395 --> 00:34:25,421 I had a really good night. 514 00:34:26,197 --> 00:34:28,257 You should get out more. 515 00:34:32,003 --> 00:34:34,302 - You need to go. - Yeah. 516 00:34:46,051 --> 00:34:47,986 - Good night. - Good night. 517 00:35:03,835 --> 00:35:07,829 Sorry, I've changed my mind. Come on. Where are we going? 518 00:35:59,190 --> 00:36:02,024 Claudia's dead, Natasha. She died in the fire. 519 00:36:03,094 --> 00:36:04,858 The fire you started. 520 00:36:06,164 --> 00:36:07,826 Sorry, I don't talk to idiots. 521 00:36:07,932 --> 00:36:10,800 The fire you started because you hate your sister and you always did. 522 00:36:10,869 --> 00:36:11,962 No. 523 00:36:12,037 --> 00:36:15,030 Your parents just made too much fuss of her when she came to stay. 524 00:36:15,106 --> 00:36:18,076 And why was she coming to stay when she had her own place down the road 525 00:36:18,143 --> 00:36:19,654 - with a husband and a baby. - Stop it. 526 00:36:19,678 --> 00:36:22,790 All the things that you should have had first because you're the oldest, right? 527 00:36:22,814 --> 00:36:26,148 - That's why you killed them. - No, I told you. It wasn't that! 528 00:36:26,251 --> 00:36:29,483 - They were dealing drugs. - There's no evidence of that, Natasha. 529 00:36:29,554 --> 00:36:31,260 I know what it sounds like. I thought I was 530 00:36:31,284 --> 00:36:33,013 crazy but he told me I was right all along. 531 00:36:33,124 --> 00:36:36,822 - All the signs I picked up, he picked up. - What signs? 532 00:36:36,928 --> 00:36:39,762 My dad suddenly writing cheques with his left hand. 533 00:36:39,831 --> 00:36:41,656 They had the kitchen done and what do you know? 534 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,411 All the cupboards are on the left-hand wall. 535 00:36:43,435 --> 00:36:45,427 They wanted me to know they knew I knew. 536 00:36:45,503 --> 00:36:47,836 They wanted me to kill myself to save them the trouble 537 00:36:47,906 --> 00:36:50,034 because they had a nice little earner going. 538 00:36:50,108 --> 00:36:52,270 And he'd picked up on these signs, too, had he? 539 00:36:52,343 --> 00:36:54,903 - Yes! - How did he tell you that, Natasha? 540 00:36:55,013 --> 00:36:57,482 - He spoke to me. - Like I'm speaking to you now? 541 00:36:57,549 --> 00:36:59,245 - No. - I don't understand. 542 00:36:59,317 --> 00:37:02,719 He called me. It wasn't in my head. I know the difference. 543 00:37:02,787 --> 00:37:07,748 He told me they were gonna kill me in my sleep if I didn't stop them first. 544 00:37:10,395 --> 00:37:14,594 They were gonna throw me out of the window and say I'd been sleepwalking. 545 00:37:27,145 --> 00:37:28,738 What's going on? 546 00:37:30,615 --> 00:37:32,243 He didn't tell you? 547 00:37:33,518 --> 00:37:35,783 No. I think he may have tried to. 548 00:37:36,721 --> 00:37:38,815 But he could have tried a bit harder. 549 00:37:39,624 --> 00:37:41,786 You loved your sister, Natasha. 550 00:37:42,894 --> 00:37:44,522 And your parents. 551 00:37:47,398 --> 00:37:48,764 Yes. 552 00:37:48,833 --> 00:37:51,029 And he manipulated you into killing them. 553 00:37:51,102 --> 00:37:53,970 No. He was my friend, my shepherd. 554 00:37:54,038 --> 00:37:55,973 If he's your shepherd, where is he now? 555 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,669 - He's punishing me. He's angry at me. - Why? 556 00:37:58,743 --> 00:38:00,075 Because... 557 00:38:02,514 --> 00:38:06,679 - He told me to save Josh. - But you did save Joshua. 558 00:38:06,751 --> 00:38:08,481 No, I couldn't. 559 00:38:10,488 --> 00:38:12,013 It was too hot. 560 00:38:13,892 --> 00:38:16,521 Somebody carried Joshua out of that building, Natasha. 561 00:38:16,594 --> 00:38:18,995 Are you saying that it wasn't you? 562 00:38:20,732 --> 00:38:22,325 Who was it, then? 563 00:38:24,435 --> 00:38:27,599 I don't know. I couldn't see his face. 564 00:38:27,672 --> 00:38:29,903 You couldn't see his face? 565 00:38:30,008 --> 00:38:33,103 He was there in the flames. 566 00:38:51,796 --> 00:38:54,129 Dr Foley. DS Silver. 567 00:38:55,033 --> 00:38:56,331 Well-done. 568 00:38:56,401 --> 00:39:00,270 I know "I was gonna tell you" doesn't cut it, but I was gonna tell you. 569 00:39:00,371 --> 00:39:01,771 Um... 570 00:39:05,043 --> 00:39:07,283 I'm sorry, Grace. It wasn't my intention to shut you out. 571 00:39:07,312 --> 00:39:09,356 It is not my feelings you should be worried about. 572 00:39:09,380 --> 00:39:10,891 It's just that he knows the patient. 573 00:39:10,915 --> 00:39:13,395 - I've done a profile of the shepherd. - I needed that insight. 574 00:39:13,451 --> 00:39:15,852 A narcissistic, Machiavellian grandiose, 575 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,618 in a position of responsibility, with a knowledge of abnormal psychiatry. 576 00:39:19,724 --> 00:39:22,387 He will have developed traits to mask the relish he takes 577 00:39:22,493 --> 00:39:24,689 in his own authority and expertise. 578 00:39:24,762 --> 00:39:27,137 Please do stop me if any of this rings a bell. 579 00:39:27,161 --> 00:39:28,460 David Carney came to us! 580 00:39:28,566 --> 00:39:31,832 - Machiavellian! - I didn't go looking for him! 581 00:39:31,903 --> 00:39:35,601 If the voice Natasha described wasn't in her head, 582 00:39:35,673 --> 00:39:40,702 then the owner of that voice has detailed knowledge of her specific condition. 583 00:39:40,812 --> 00:39:41,860 I agree with that. 584 00:39:41,884 --> 00:39:44,510 The family as drug dealers, the left-hand thing 585 00:39:44,616 --> 00:39:46,924 and the deep-rooted jealousy of her sister. 586 00:39:46,948 --> 00:39:47,984 I agree with that. 587 00:39:48,086 --> 00:39:50,297 The list of people who know these things is very short... 588 00:39:50,321 --> 00:39:52,586 It was David Carney that gave us these insights. 589 00:39:52,690 --> 00:39:57,754 And you have just let the person at the top of that list into our investigation. 590 00:39:58,830 --> 00:40:01,408 What about the shepherd going into the building to rescue the child? 591 00:40:01,432 --> 00:40:03,552 That's not Machiavellian or narcissistic or grandiose. 592 00:40:03,601 --> 00:40:05,279 - That doesn't quite fit, does it? - No, it doesn't. 593 00:40:05,303 --> 00:40:06,999 - Explain it to me. - It's an anomaly! 594 00:40:07,071 --> 00:40:11,202 But you can't crucify David Carney because he fits a profile that at best is flawed. 595 00:40:11,276 --> 00:40:15,441 I did not tailor the foot to fit the shoe if that is what you are suggesting. 596 00:40:15,513 --> 00:40:17,209 If I can conduct this investigation without 597 00:40:17,233 --> 00:40:18,993 calling on the help of David Carney, I will. 598 00:40:19,083 --> 00:40:21,364 But if I need to call on the help of David Carney, I will! 599 00:40:21,452 --> 00:40:23,478 Good. Will you keep me informed if you do, though? 600 00:40:23,554 --> 00:40:25,113 I will. 601 00:40:29,227 --> 00:40:31,787 Apart from its use in the aerospace industry, 602 00:40:31,896 --> 00:40:36,197 Kevlar is also found in the production of high-end sound gear, 603 00:40:37,068 --> 00:40:40,004 which would explain this little puppy. 604 00:40:40,471 --> 00:40:43,703 Now, this is an exciter. 605 00:40:45,343 --> 00:40:49,713 And it stimulates the Kevlar to produce sound. 606 00:40:50,682 --> 00:40:53,982 - Like a violin string? - Just like a violin string. 607 00:40:54,085 --> 00:40:57,351 You just made a mucky bit of plastic seem very erotic there, Frankie. 608 00:40:57,455 --> 00:40:59,788 - Well, thanks, Boyd. - That's okay. 609 00:40:59,891 --> 00:41:02,486 - So what goes here? - An aluminium high-band receiver. 610 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,825 - Oh, now you've spoilt it. - Yeah, sorry. 611 00:41:04,929 --> 00:41:09,867 Now, an educated guess would say that what went here was a boundary microphone. 612 00:41:09,968 --> 00:41:12,369 So that's how he had his little chats with Natasha. 613 00:41:12,437 --> 00:41:13,871 Mmm-hmm. 614 00:41:13,972 --> 00:41:17,374 - Did she know that this was in her room? - Yes and no. 615 00:41:17,442 --> 00:41:18,842 I recovered this. 616 00:41:20,011 --> 00:41:23,004 - Um, it's an eye. - Mmm. 617 00:41:26,918 --> 00:41:29,444 It was from a distributed mode picture speaker. 618 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,786 - Another competition win, is it? - And the Kevlar is inside. 619 00:41:32,890 --> 00:41:35,587 She liked horses, so always a good choice. 620 00:41:36,561 --> 00:41:38,205 You wouldn't know it was a speaker, would you? 621 00:41:38,229 --> 00:41:41,408 - That's what people pay for, isn't it? - So how many people are we talking about? 622 00:41:41,432 --> 00:41:45,995 8,000 in the UK alone, and 3,000 went for our chestnut mare. 623 00:41:46,070 --> 00:41:48,236 God, I dread to think where the other 5,000 got. 624 00:41:48,260 --> 00:41:49,837 It doesn't really matter, does it? 625 00:41:49,907 --> 00:41:52,809 The important thing is that the high-bandwidth receiver 626 00:41:52,877 --> 00:41:56,678 means that the shepherd would have been close by when he spoke to her. 627 00:42:08,526 --> 00:42:11,105 So we're looking for a vantage point within what? 628 00:42:11,129 --> 00:42:11,792 200 metres? 629 00:42:11,896 --> 00:42:14,388 200 metres where you can see that 630 00:42:17,668 --> 00:42:19,364 and not be seen. 631 00:42:29,614 --> 00:42:31,446 Just up here. 632 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,529 - Look there. - Ah-ha. 633 00:42:49,534 --> 00:42:51,162 Perfect. 634 00:42:55,706 --> 00:42:57,004 Right. 635 00:43:00,178 --> 00:43:01,703 Ooh, God! 636 00:43:01,813 --> 00:43:04,681 French. Gauloises. 637 00:43:34,812 --> 00:43:37,111 - Lens cap. - What from? 638 00:43:38,282 --> 00:43:39,750 Binoculars. 639 00:44:05,710 --> 00:44:07,702 How you doing? 640 00:44:07,812 --> 00:44:09,644 What are you up to? 641 00:44:12,216 --> 00:44:13,946 You can retake Chaucer, 642 00:44:14,051 --> 00:44:17,852 bloody Shakespeare, but it's game over if you fail Beowulf. 643 00:44:17,922 --> 00:44:19,550 It's faculty eugenics. 644 00:44:19,624 --> 00:44:22,685 Their way of creating a master race of specky virgins. 645 00:44:23,394 --> 00:44:25,761 Still, I'll be all right. It's you they want. 646 00:44:26,731 --> 00:44:30,827 I'm not kidding. They want you stone cold dead. 647 00:44:39,944 --> 00:44:43,437 Hello. Yeah, I'm fine, thanks. Hang on a sec. 648 00:44:44,081 --> 00:44:47,381 Don't give the shits the satisfaction. That's my motivation. 649 00:44:48,186 --> 00:44:50,246 Sorry. Yeah, I'd love to. 650 00:44:51,122 --> 00:44:53,182 See you later. Of course I would. 651 00:45:02,967 --> 00:45:04,993 Mel, I think I've got something. 652 00:45:05,069 --> 00:45:07,163 You've always had a little something, Grace. 653 00:45:07,238 --> 00:45:09,264 Thanks, Mel. Look at this. 654 00:45:12,043 --> 00:45:16,003 - What on earth's she got on her feet? - You ain't seen nothing yet. 655 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,912 This is Judy Walsh. 656 00:45:18,015 --> 00:45:22,248 Two years ago she walked into an electricity showroom brandishing a gun. 657 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,189 She threatens the staff and a few terrified customers, 658 00:45:27,625 --> 00:45:30,094 before turning the gun on herself. 659 00:45:34,765 --> 00:45:37,462 I don't think we want to see that bit. 660 00:45:37,568 --> 00:45:41,369 Her belief that deadly electrical currents were being pumped up through the earth 661 00:45:41,439 --> 00:45:44,898 finally became too much for her husband, he took her to see the GP, 662 00:45:45,009 --> 00:45:48,810 who referred her to a leading behavioural psychiatrist. 663 00:45:50,715 --> 00:45:52,115 David Carney? 664 00:45:53,584 --> 00:45:55,075 David Carney. 665 00:46:25,483 --> 00:46:26,712 Hello? 666 00:46:26,784 --> 00:46:30,312 Right uniforms, right van, right hats. 667 00:46:31,722 --> 00:46:33,707 Of course, there's nothing wrong with the 668 00:46:33,731 --> 00:46:35,887 light, but the council can't say no to them. 669 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,394 Who are they? 670 00:46:37,461 --> 00:46:42,263 Police officers. They're installing a night-vision camera. 671 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:44,429 Police? 672 00:46:44,502 --> 00:46:47,802 I don't know what they think you did, but they're on to you. 673 00:46:47,872 --> 00:46:52,901 - I didn't do anything. - I know that, and you know that. 674 00:46:54,512 --> 00:46:56,640 Please, help me. 675 00:46:57,682 --> 00:47:01,346 Please, help me. 676 00:47:02,553 --> 00:47:03,885 Shepherd. 677 00:47:07,191 --> 00:47:09,422 I don't want to hurt anyone. 678 00:47:10,761 --> 00:47:14,357 The sling that slew Goliath was made to protect sheep, 679 00:47:14,432 --> 00:47:17,231 but David had to defend himself or die. 680 00:47:18,369 --> 00:47:20,361 And so do you. 681 00:47:20,438 --> 00:47:23,602 If that's true, why hasn't God told me? 682 00:47:25,843 --> 00:47:27,709 He is telling you. 683 00:47:39,190 --> 00:47:43,252 I would like to end this meagre introduction 684 00:47:43,361 --> 00:47:46,525 to shadow aspect with an account of a dream 685 00:47:46,597 --> 00:47:51,433 experienced by an undergraduate called Carl Jung. 686 00:48:04,248 --> 00:48:09,209 It was night, in some unknown place, 687 00:48:10,187 --> 00:48:14,591 and I was making slow and painful headway against a strong wind. 688 00:48:15,226 --> 00:48:18,162 Dense fog all-around. 689 00:48:19,463 --> 00:48:23,867 I had my hands cupped around a tiny light 690 00:48:23,968 --> 00:48:26,995 which threatened to go out at any moment. 691 00:48:28,806 --> 00:48:32,709 Suddenly I had the feeling that something was coming up behind me. 692 00:48:32,810 --> 00:48:37,771 I looked back and saw a gigantic black figure following me. 693 00:48:39,784 --> 00:48:44,745 At that precise moment I was conscious, in spite of my terror, 694 00:48:46,023 --> 00:48:49,926 that I must keep this little light going 695 00:48:49,994 --> 00:48:54,489 through night and wind, regardless of all dangers. 696 00:48:57,668 --> 00:49:02,470 When I awoke I realised at once that the figure was my own shadow, 697 00:49:03,607 --> 00:49:07,635 brought into being by the little light that I was carrying. 698 00:49:07,711 --> 00:49:12,479 I knew, also, that this little light 699 00:49:13,384 --> 00:49:15,683 was my consciousness. 700 00:49:17,521 --> 00:49:21,390 Though infinitely small and fragile, 701 00:49:21,459 --> 00:49:26,454 in comparison to the powers of darkness, it is still a light, 702 00:49:27,798 --> 00:49:32,099 my only light. 703 00:49:41,145 --> 00:49:44,047 How'd you lose your licence? 704 00:49:44,114 --> 00:49:45,639 Red lights. 705 00:49:46,784 --> 00:49:48,878 That's three points, isn't it? 706 00:49:49,954 --> 00:49:52,014 Not if you do it four times. 707 00:49:54,859 --> 00:49:58,853 After you linked Natasha Bloom's and Fay Harding's story of the shepherd, 708 00:49:58,963 --> 00:50:01,031 didn't it ever occur to you that there might 709 00:50:01,055 --> 00:50:02,957 be a connection with Judy Walsh's death? 710 00:50:03,033 --> 00:50:04,626 - No. - Never crossed your mind? 711 00:50:04,702 --> 00:50:05,897 - Never. - Why is that? 712 00:50:06,003 --> 00:50:09,337 Judy Walsh never hurt anyone but herself, and she never talked about a shepherd. 713 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,467 Then why did you request that she be placed in high-support accommodation? 714 00:50:12,543 --> 00:50:17,140 In my judgement, she was at risk from an unsympathetic husband who could be violent. 715 00:50:17,248 --> 00:50:18,546 Okay. Hmm. 716 00:50:19,884 --> 00:50:21,852 You've got to admit, though, from the outside, 717 00:50:21,876 --> 00:50:23,912 it does seem like an extraordinary coincidence. 718 00:50:23,988 --> 00:50:25,983 I mean, they're all women, all a similar age, 719 00:50:26,007 --> 00:50:27,982 all suffering severe delusions, all violent, 720 00:50:28,092 --> 00:50:31,460 and all your patients. 721 00:50:31,629 --> 00:50:35,589 I'm a psychiatrist. All my patients are ill. 722 00:51:04,595 --> 00:51:06,723 Get out of my way, please! 723 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,660 What were the outward signs of Judy's illness? 724 00:51:41,865 --> 00:51:45,165 Judy was obsessed with electricity. 725 00:51:45,235 --> 00:51:48,569 She thought the government had created a new current that gave you Alzheimer's. 726 00:51:48,639 --> 00:51:51,700 They were pumping it up through the earth. 727 00:51:51,809 --> 00:51:54,677 Must have been very difficult to deal with. 728 00:51:55,312 --> 00:51:59,716 When we were first married, we were very happy running the farm together. 729 00:52:00,651 --> 00:52:04,349 It was hard work. But by the end... 730 00:52:06,590 --> 00:52:10,027 First it was the phone, then the car, 731 00:52:10,127 --> 00:52:12,426 then she wouldn't even use the milking machines. 732 00:52:12,529 --> 00:52:14,930 Because they involved electricity? 733 00:52:17,334 --> 00:52:19,444 She started taping blocks to the bottom of 734 00:52:19,468 --> 00:52:21,704 her boots to stop the electricity coming up. 735 00:52:23,240 --> 00:52:24,936 It was embarrassing. 736 00:52:25,009 --> 00:52:28,571 God. I was ashamed of her. Can you believe it? 737 00:52:34,918 --> 00:52:37,820 I started drinking to help myself cope. 738 00:52:38,689 --> 00:52:40,954 But it had the opposite effect. 739 00:52:44,094 --> 00:52:46,029 I started using my fists. 740 00:52:47,197 --> 00:52:51,635 Is that when you went to see your GP, who referred you to Dr Carney? 741 00:52:52,836 --> 00:52:56,967 He suggested the support clinic. I was like, "Give me a pen. Where do I sign?" 742 00:52:57,041 --> 00:52:59,442 Can you think of anybody who... 743 00:53:00,944 --> 00:53:03,504 might want to damage your professional reputation? 744 00:53:03,614 --> 00:53:05,658 Your supposition ignores two important facts. 745 00:53:05,682 --> 00:53:07,574 Maybe. You haven't answered the question. 746 00:53:07,685 --> 00:53:09,176 - No. - Okay. 747 00:53:09,286 --> 00:53:12,745 One, there is absolutely nothing to associate Judy Walsh with any of this. 748 00:53:12,823 --> 00:53:14,121 I'm just curious... 749 00:53:14,191 --> 00:53:17,719 Two, I was not Fay Harding's psychiatrist until after her crimes. 750 00:53:17,795 --> 00:53:19,457 - You'd never met her before? - No. 751 00:53:19,563 --> 00:53:22,055 We met on the day the Dukes were murdered. 752 00:53:22,166 --> 00:53:24,397 And you'd never met them either? 753 00:53:24,468 --> 00:53:26,960 - I did meet the son later. - That's Adam Duke. 754 00:53:27,037 --> 00:53:31,168 Mmm. As part of the victim reconciliation programme. 755 00:53:31,241 --> 00:53:34,837 Normally it's just the one visit, but he turned up several times. 756 00:53:34,912 --> 00:53:38,679 I thought it a bit obsessive, so I put a stop to it. 757 00:53:44,788 --> 00:53:47,121 Right, okay. 758 00:53:48,726 --> 00:53:52,595 Thanks for your help with Natasha Bloom, by the way. 759 00:53:53,163 --> 00:53:55,029 Pleasure. 760 00:53:56,433 --> 00:54:00,063 You told the police Judy was spending a lot of time at the library. 761 00:54:00,170 --> 00:54:03,402 Yeah, she was trying to trace her family tree. 762 00:54:03,474 --> 00:54:05,500 Did she mention meeting anyone there? 763 00:54:05,609 --> 00:54:09,137 She said there was some bloke she used to talk to sometimes. 764 00:54:09,246 --> 00:54:11,613 Did she tell you anything about him? 765 00:54:11,682 --> 00:54:15,881 No, just said he felt the same, that electricity was a bad thing, 766 00:54:15,953 --> 00:54:18,445 and he was helping her find her ancestors. 767 00:54:18,522 --> 00:54:20,582 Nothing else? 768 00:54:20,691 --> 00:54:23,320 I thought... I thought he was in her mind. 769 00:54:24,595 --> 00:54:28,623 You know, some sort of imaginary friend. 770 00:54:28,732 --> 00:54:29,859 Sorry. 771 00:54:34,071 --> 00:54:36,097 Donald, what is that? 772 00:54:44,681 --> 00:54:46,775 I found it under Judy's pillow. 773 00:54:48,952 --> 00:54:50,921 Judy was never religious. 774 00:54:51,688 --> 00:54:53,680 Maybe she's found God, eh? 775 00:55:05,002 --> 00:55:07,631 Six visits. That's a lot of reconciliation. 776 00:55:07,704 --> 00:55:09,866 Adam didn't mention one visit when we interviewed him. 777 00:55:09,973 --> 00:55:12,418 Check his original statement. It's the same with the forensics. 778 00:55:12,442 --> 00:55:14,536 You think Adam Duke's a suspect? 779 00:55:14,645 --> 00:55:16,739 What, for killing his parents or being the shepherd? 780 00:55:16,847 --> 00:55:19,025 No, I mean, Fay Harding threw boiling water in his face. 781 00:55:19,049 --> 00:55:21,985 Compared with what happened to his parents, he got off pretty lightly. 782 00:55:22,085 --> 00:55:24,497 Yeah, but if he killed his parents, why would Fay serve his time? 783 00:55:24,521 --> 00:55:26,786 "The first time I saw him, I felt like I'd been punched." 784 00:55:26,890 --> 00:55:29,155 - That's what she said. - What, true love waits? 785 00:55:29,226 --> 00:55:31,821 - Sorry, I don't buy that. - So cynical, so young. 786 00:55:32,896 --> 00:55:37,061 Frankie, the DNA from the cup. Compare it to the cigarette butts. 787 00:55:37,734 --> 00:55:39,396 - Yeah? - Okay. 788 00:56:10,367 --> 00:56:15,032 Oi! What are you doing? Give me some peace. Give me some peace. 789 00:56:18,442 --> 00:56:20,468 Shouldn't we arrest David Carney? 790 00:56:20,577 --> 00:56:23,590 Judy Walsh was his patient. Don't you think that she would have recognised him? 791 00:56:23,614 --> 00:56:26,243 Judy Walsh was mad, and because she was his patient, 792 00:56:26,316 --> 00:56:28,094 he knew her history, her fixation with electricity... 793 00:56:28,118 --> 00:56:31,247 David Carney is a respected psychiatrist with a hospital to run. 794 00:56:31,321 --> 00:56:33,433 You're telling me he hung out in a library in disguise 795 00:56:33,457 --> 00:56:35,201 so he could make a former patient kill herself? 796 00:56:35,225 --> 00:56:37,694 - He could have. - We're not arresting David Carney. 797 00:56:37,761 --> 00:56:40,925 How many ex-patients of David Carney going postal is it gonna take... 798 00:56:40,998 --> 00:56:43,576 It doesn't matter if the connection is legitimate. He's a psychiatrist. 799 00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,832 And these people, as you so delicately put it, Spence, were mad. 800 00:56:46,937 --> 00:56:48,898 There are precedents of high achievers 801 00:56:48,922 --> 00:56:51,272 pathologically undoing the work of their day. 802 00:56:51,375 --> 00:56:54,402 - There you go. - Jung talks about the shadow aspect, 803 00:56:54,478 --> 00:56:58,813 the projection of the things we like least about ourselves onto other people. 804 00:56:58,882 --> 00:57:03,582 Now, that could be a primal instinct to destroy, to kill, to murder. 805 00:57:03,687 --> 00:57:06,179 And what better place to do it than a mental hospital? 806 00:57:06,290 --> 00:57:09,522 So the tension between you and your shadow 807 00:57:10,227 --> 00:57:11,889 balances itself out? 808 00:57:11,962 --> 00:57:15,194 If David Carney is the shepherd, 809 00:57:15,299 --> 00:57:17,530 that's how he sleeps at night. 67218

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