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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,627 --> 00:00:05,171 [indistinct chatter] 2 00:00:09,926 --> 00:00:12,721 - Excuse me, Mr. Littleton? - Yeah. 3 00:00:12,721 --> 00:00:15,181 I'm Larry Adler from the Attorney General's office. 4 00:00:15,306 --> 00:00:16,766 Oh. How are you doing? 5 00:00:16,891 --> 00:00:18,977 I apologize for the intrusion, 6 00:00:19,102 --> 00:00:22,981 but... I'm handling the David Robinson prosecution. 7 00:00:23,940 --> 00:00:25,108 You familiar with the case? 8 00:00:25,316 --> 00:00:26,609 Oh, you can't turn on the news 9 00:00:26,693 --> 00:00:28,903 - without seeing that videotape. - Exactly. 10 00:00:29,487 --> 00:00:32,699 Well, yesterday the defense attorney won his venue motion. 11 00:00:32,699 --> 00:00:34,534 The case has been transferred to Rome. 12 00:00:35,660 --> 00:00:37,787 - Here? - Your Judge Bone accepted it. 13 00:00:37,912 --> 00:00:39,706 We begin voir dire tomorrow. 14 00:00:40,498 --> 00:00:42,125 I'd like you to handle it. 15 00:00:43,168 --> 00:00:45,754 - I... I beg your pardon. - With me. 16 00:00:46,504 --> 00:00:49,466 The facts were simple. I can have you up to speed in an hour. 17 00:00:49,591 --> 00:00:54,220 Wait, you want me to try this case? Why? 18 00:00:54,471 --> 00:00:57,265 Well, the jurors here will see in you a face they trust. 19 00:00:57,682 --> 00:00:59,851 You're an exceptional DA and you're... 20 00:01:01,186 --> 00:01:03,646 The defendant's attorney is Bryant Thomas. 21 00:01:04,022 --> 00:01:06,399 I'm sure he's going to characterize this prosecution 22 00:01:06,483 --> 00:01:08,526 as an exercise in White supremacy. 23 00:01:09,444 --> 00:01:15,116 And you have the necessary... pigmentation to neutralize that attack. 24 00:01:17,035 --> 00:01:21,873 I don't appreciate being selected because of skin color, Mr. Adler. 25 00:01:22,332 --> 00:01:23,917 You've seen the videotape. 26 00:01:24,751 --> 00:01:25,877 Yes. 27 00:01:25,877 --> 00:01:28,546 Is it your opinion, Mr. Robinson committed murder? 28 00:01:31,883 --> 00:01:33,384 - Yes. - Then what else do you need 29 00:01:33,468 --> 00:01:35,470 as a prosecutor to go forward? 30 00:01:37,013 --> 00:01:39,015 I'm trying to put a killer behind bars. 31 00:01:39,849 --> 00:01:42,143 If your being Black helps serve that purpose, 32 00:01:42,310 --> 00:01:45,271 I'm not ashamed to avail myself of that advantage. 33 00:01:48,316 --> 00:01:49,901 Will you do it or not? 34 00:01:54,781 --> 00:01:57,659 [theme music playing] 35 00:02:51,045 --> 00:02:54,257 [theme music ends] 36 00:02:57,510 --> 00:03:00,263 - [man] Sherriff's Department. - I got summoned to jury duty. 37 00:03:00,972 --> 00:03:03,474 Well, half the town's been summoned, Ginny. 38 00:03:03,558 --> 00:03:04,851 It's a big murder trial. 39 00:03:04,851 --> 00:03:07,562 I don't have time to sit on a jury. 40 00:03:07,896 --> 00:03:09,063 Well, your last name begins with "W." 41 00:03:09,147 --> 00:03:10,273 By the time they get to you, 42 00:03:10,273 --> 00:03:11,649 the jury will probably be filled. 43 00:03:11,733 --> 00:03:13,067 I got summoned, too. 44 00:03:13,151 --> 00:03:15,153 Pike. They'll probably get to "P." 45 00:03:15,153 --> 00:03:16,821 God, I'd love to be on that jury. 46 00:03:16,905 --> 00:03:18,156 - Why? - Why? 47 00:03:18,156 --> 00:03:19,949 Bryant Thomas is the defense attorney. 48 00:03:20,116 --> 00:03:22,118 The "Bryant Thomas." 49 00:03:24,662 --> 00:03:27,165 - We should be co-counsel. - Why is that? 50 00:03:27,415 --> 00:03:29,042 You're asking me why? 51 00:03:29,167 --> 00:03:30,960 The jurors of Rome all know me. 52 00:03:31,044 --> 00:03:33,588 - Plus which you're very Black. - Oh, I see. 53 00:03:33,796 --> 00:03:35,423 The defendant is African-American. 54 00:03:35,548 --> 00:03:37,258 I would hate for the jurors to think 55 00:03:37,342 --> 00:03:39,844 that you took this case out of race alone. 56 00:03:40,178 --> 00:03:41,554 Me they know. 57 00:03:41,763 --> 00:03:44,224 That I would only represent the client I believed in. 58 00:03:44,390 --> 00:03:46,100 Do you believe David Robinson is innocent? 59 00:03:46,267 --> 00:03:47,644 With all my heart. 60 00:03:47,644 --> 00:03:50,605 As soon as I'm on retainer. If you did your homework, 61 00:03:50,730 --> 00:03:52,982 you would know me and want me 'cause I always win. 62 00:03:53,233 --> 00:03:55,151 I have done my homework, Mr. Wambaugh. 63 00:03:55,276 --> 00:03:58,154 I know exactly who you are, and you're hired. 64 00:03:58,321 --> 00:03:59,572 I am? 65 00:04:00,281 --> 00:04:02,492 There's been a lot of publicity in this case. 66 00:04:02,742 --> 00:04:05,203 Do you believe you can render an impartial judgment? 67 00:04:05,453 --> 00:04:06,871 I believe I could. 68 00:04:08,581 --> 00:04:09,999 This juror is acceptable, Your Honor. 69 00:04:10,291 --> 00:04:13,544 Do you believe that these news accounts are true? 70 00:04:14,003 --> 00:04:15,255 I don't know. 71 00:04:16,589 --> 00:04:20,009 Mrs. Bayles, these are policemen who were killed. 72 00:04:20,134 --> 00:04:21,552 Do you believe it's possible 73 00:04:21,636 --> 00:04:24,347 that anybody could be justified in killing a policeman? 74 00:04:25,390 --> 00:04:28,601 Well, it would depend on what the officer was doing. 75 00:04:29,894 --> 00:04:31,437 Defense accepts this juror. 76 00:04:31,604 --> 00:04:33,439 Mrs. Bayles, report to the jury room. 77 00:04:33,690 --> 00:04:36,859 Oh, and tell Walter he'll be cooking his own meals for a while. 78 00:04:36,985 --> 00:04:39,612 - Next? - [Bailiff] James Brock. 79 00:04:39,862 --> 00:04:41,322 [indistinct chatter] 80 00:04:42,198 --> 00:04:44,617 [Littleton] Prosecution accepts Sheriff Brock, Your Honor. 81 00:04:46,244 --> 00:04:47,912 Ask he be removed for cause. 82 00:04:48,037 --> 00:04:50,164 Objection. He maybe the police 83 00:04:50,248 --> 00:04:52,166 but he's an objective and a fair man. 84 00:04:52,333 --> 00:04:55,545 I agree. Sheriff Brock is capable of impartiality. 85 00:04:55,670 --> 00:04:57,130 If you want to remove him, you will have to use 86 00:04:57,130 --> 00:04:59,173 one of your peremptory challenges. 87 00:05:00,216 --> 00:05:03,261 He is fair and he goes for underdogs. 88 00:05:03,386 --> 00:05:06,222 - He's gotta be pro-police. - Just the opposite. 89 00:05:06,472 --> 00:05:09,350 He's so objective you can vomit. Take him. 90 00:05:11,436 --> 00:05:13,354 - We accept this man. - [man] What? 91 00:05:13,521 --> 00:05:15,940 Uh, Your Honor, I'm... I'm the sheriff. 92 00:05:16,190 --> 00:05:19,068 You're also on the jury. Next. 93 00:05:19,527 --> 00:05:21,779 [indistinct chatter] 94 00:05:22,030 --> 00:05:23,281 Are you sure about him? 95 00:05:23,448 --> 00:05:26,659 A murder is a murder. He'd put away his own best friend. 96 00:05:26,993 --> 00:05:28,536 [Judge] Jill Brock? 97 00:05:29,787 --> 00:05:32,874 Uh, removed for cause, Your Honor, she's married to the last juror. 98 00:05:33,041 --> 00:05:35,084 If you want to exercise a challenge, do it. 99 00:05:35,168 --> 00:05:37,337 But she's fair. There's no cause. 100 00:05:37,545 --> 00:05:39,380 - What about her? - The worst. 101 00:05:39,589 --> 00:05:41,382 She's married to a cop. 102 00:05:41,466 --> 00:05:45,053 Plus which, her own son just got shot. Get rid of her. 103 00:05:46,846 --> 00:05:48,264 We challenge. 104 00:05:49,515 --> 00:05:51,309 Dr. Brock, you are excused. 105 00:05:51,434 --> 00:05:52,852 [scoffs] 106 00:05:53,519 --> 00:05:55,521 [Larry] Have you ever served on a jury before? 107 00:05:55,938 --> 00:05:57,440 Do you keep a gun in the house? 108 00:05:57,565 --> 00:05:59,525 What kind of bumper stickers do you have on your car? 109 00:05:59,609 --> 00:06:02,904 Have you ever participated in any, uh, protests or demonstrations? 110 00:06:03,029 --> 00:06:04,947 If he didn't do it, they wouldn't have arrested him. 111 00:06:05,031 --> 00:06:06,741 I only slept with one policeman. 112 00:06:06,741 --> 00:06:08,826 Rodney King was on PCP. 113 00:06:08,993 --> 00:06:11,079 It's a total breakdown of the community's morals. 114 00:06:11,245 --> 00:06:12,955 Are you related to any police officers? 115 00:06:13,164 --> 00:06:14,707 If he'd murder, he'd lie. 116 00:06:14,832 --> 00:06:16,042 Three strikes, you're in. 117 00:06:16,167 --> 00:06:17,835 - I could be fair. - I could be fair. 118 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,379 I could be fair. 119 00:06:22,882 --> 00:06:26,552 Ladies and gentlemen, I'd now like to show you a videotape. 120 00:06:27,178 --> 00:06:30,473 Now, I'm sure most of you have seen this on news broadcast before, 121 00:06:30,473 --> 00:06:33,768 but I'm asking you to forget what you've heard and what you've seen, 122 00:06:33,893 --> 00:06:35,353 and just pay attention to what we present here. 123 00:06:35,478 --> 00:06:36,938 [Bryant] Your Honor, 124 00:06:38,022 --> 00:06:40,566 defense renews its objection to this videotape. 125 00:06:40,733 --> 00:06:42,110 Overruled. 126 00:06:42,318 --> 00:06:44,987 Members of the jury, this tape was recorded 127 00:06:45,113 --> 00:06:47,698 by the defendant's own home security system. 128 00:06:47,949 --> 00:06:50,493 The court recognizes its authenticity. Play it. 129 00:06:50,618 --> 00:06:53,871 Now, you'll notice at the end, we've enhanced the picture electronically 130 00:06:53,955 --> 00:06:55,373 for identification. 131 00:06:58,626 --> 00:06:59,710 [thud] 132 00:07:00,044 --> 00:07:01,629 - [grunts] Freeze. - Freeze . 133 00:07:01,754 --> 00:07:05,842 - [gunfire] - [policemen groaning] 134 00:07:08,428 --> 00:07:10,930 [suspenseful music playing] 135 00:07:43,713 --> 00:07:44,922 David. 136 00:07:45,423 --> 00:07:47,467 We all saw that tape. 137 00:07:48,259 --> 00:07:49,927 What we need to hear from you now is, 138 00:07:50,052 --> 00:07:51,637 what the hell were you thinking? 139 00:07:53,431 --> 00:07:56,017 I sell drugs to a lot of bad people, 140 00:07:56,017 --> 00:07:58,436 guys who would shoot me dead faster than that. 141 00:07:58,644 --> 00:08:01,731 - Thought it was them. - [Bryant chuckles] Come on, David. 142 00:08:01,856 --> 00:08:03,733 Why would a client wanna shoot you? 143 00:08:04,233 --> 00:08:05,735 I cheated them. 144 00:08:06,152 --> 00:08:07,904 Sold some sugar sometimes. 145 00:08:08,362 --> 00:08:11,949 Oh, so you thought, maybe it was someone that you cheated 146 00:08:12,700 --> 00:08:14,952 - come looking for a payback? - Yeah. 147 00:08:15,578 --> 00:08:18,164 Next thing I know, I just see guns flying all up in the air. 148 00:08:18,956 --> 00:08:22,168 Didn't you recognize these people as police officers? 149 00:08:23,753 --> 00:08:25,129 Yes. 150 00:08:26,172 --> 00:08:27,715 You still shot at them? 151 00:08:28,633 --> 00:08:32,178 They was pointing their guns at me. 152 00:08:33,596 --> 00:08:36,265 If I didn't shoot them, I'd be dead. 153 00:08:38,100 --> 00:08:41,270 Have the police shot at you before? Or anybody close to you? 154 00:08:41,729 --> 00:08:43,064 This ain't about that. 155 00:08:43,272 --> 00:08:45,650 Have the police shot at you or anybody you love? 156 00:08:47,860 --> 00:08:49,820 [people murmuring] 157 00:08:50,446 --> 00:08:52,114 Please answer the question. 158 00:08:54,283 --> 00:08:55,701 [mumbles] My mother. 159 00:08:56,035 --> 00:08:57,411 Excuse me? 160 00:08:58,996 --> 00:09:01,707 They... They killed my mother. 161 00:09:03,376 --> 00:09:05,503 [people murmuring] 162 00:09:07,213 --> 00:09:08,381 And why? 163 00:09:09,715 --> 00:09:12,051 My mother and my father was fighting, 164 00:09:13,219 --> 00:09:14,512 and they came... 165 00:09:15,888 --> 00:09:18,432 [stutters] She waived the knife at them. 166 00:09:20,601 --> 00:09:22,103 And they... they shot her. 167 00:09:24,146 --> 00:09:25,314 Your Honor... 168 00:09:28,359 --> 00:09:32,238 I introduce this autopsy report on Mrs. Robinson. 169 00:09:33,072 --> 00:09:34,782 Objection. Irrelevant. 170 00:09:34,782 --> 00:09:36,993 Policemen killed this boy's mother. 171 00:09:37,535 --> 00:09:40,413 It is your position that that fact is irrelevant? 172 00:09:41,497 --> 00:09:42,832 Meaningless? 173 00:09:48,838 --> 00:09:50,840 The people withdraw the objection. 174 00:09:55,845 --> 00:09:57,430 Let the record reflect 175 00:09:57,430 --> 00:10:01,392 that Mrs. Robinson was struck by seven bullets, 176 00:10:01,642 --> 00:10:03,311 three of them in the back. 177 00:10:03,519 --> 00:10:04,895 Let the record also reflect 178 00:10:05,271 --> 00:10:08,733 Milwaukee Internal Affairs lists the killing as justified. 179 00:10:08,733 --> 00:10:11,068 No officer was disciplined. 180 00:10:13,696 --> 00:10:14,905 David, 181 00:10:16,073 --> 00:10:19,201 were you there when the police killed your mother? 182 00:10:22,455 --> 00:10:23,664 Yes. 183 00:10:24,123 --> 00:10:25,916 And how old were you at this time? 184 00:10:27,710 --> 00:10:28,919 [sighs] 185 00:10:30,129 --> 00:10:31,422 I was nine. 186 00:10:32,423 --> 00:10:33,883 Nine years old. 187 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,638 [people murmuring] 188 00:10:47,021 --> 00:10:49,482 I don't think he had to keep shooting, that's all, Jimmy. No matter how... 189 00:10:49,482 --> 00:10:51,609 We're not supposed to talk about it yet. 190 00:10:51,609 --> 00:10:53,694 - What the Judge said. - [Moriarity] It might be expedient 191 00:10:53,819 --> 00:10:56,447 to just organize the facts without editorializing. 192 00:10:56,447 --> 00:10:59,533 No. There's no discussion till all the evidence is in. 193 00:10:59,784 --> 00:11:03,954 I heard at the Menendez trial some of the jurors went kind of crazy. 194 00:11:04,038 --> 00:11:05,998 - [laughs] - Ask me, they're all crazy. 195 00:11:06,374 --> 00:11:08,167 - How could not have fried those two kids? - Uh... 196 00:11:08,167 --> 00:11:10,211 I don't think we should talk about that trial either. 197 00:11:10,211 --> 00:11:12,338 What, we just sit here and talk about nothing? 198 00:11:12,463 --> 00:11:13,881 Maybe we should choose a foreman. 199 00:11:14,006 --> 00:11:16,300 - We can do that, can't we? - Yeah. 200 00:11:16,884 --> 00:11:18,594 I think it should be you, Jimmy. 201 00:11:19,095 --> 00:11:20,846 - [in unison] Yes. - [Lawson] Sheriff Brock. 202 00:11:21,097 --> 00:11:22,848 Uh, I don't think that's a good idea. 203 00:11:22,932 --> 00:11:24,517 - [indistinct chatter] - [man] Why not? 204 00:11:24,517 --> 00:11:26,644 You understand the law better than any of us. 205 00:11:26,811 --> 00:11:29,271 - He'll be foreman. - It's got to be you, Jimmy. 206 00:11:29,605 --> 00:11:30,898 I vote for it. 207 00:11:31,607 --> 00:11:33,484 - [all agreeing] - Great. 208 00:11:33,651 --> 00:11:35,653 [indistinct chatter] 209 00:11:38,698 --> 00:11:41,283 Why did you have video equipment set up in your apartment? 210 00:11:41,659 --> 00:11:44,662 I have a safe room in the back where I usually work. 211 00:11:45,037 --> 00:11:47,206 The video so I could see if people were coming. 212 00:11:47,331 --> 00:11:48,582 So you had an expectation 213 00:11:48,666 --> 00:11:50,584 that people could come crashing through your door? 214 00:11:51,127 --> 00:11:54,588 I knew it could happen. I wasn't, like, expecting it. 215 00:11:54,714 --> 00:11:57,216 Well, in fact, the police had entered your apartment before 216 00:11:57,341 --> 00:11:58,843 to conduct a search, hadn't they? 217 00:11:58,843 --> 00:11:59,969 Once. 218 00:12:01,345 --> 00:12:03,681 So when you picked up your automatic weapon, 219 00:12:04,056 --> 00:12:06,517 you at least had to entertain the possibility 220 00:12:06,517 --> 00:12:09,729 that the people coming in were law enforcement officers. 221 00:12:09,895 --> 00:12:14,150 All I knew was that someone could be coming in to get me. 222 00:12:14,525 --> 00:12:17,153 But then you recognized them as police officers, 223 00:12:17,361 --> 00:12:19,864 and you still just started shooting. 224 00:12:20,239 --> 00:12:24,326 They was about to shoot me. Their guns was up. 225 00:12:24,618 --> 00:12:26,454 What if you hadn't picked up your gun? 226 00:12:26,704 --> 00:12:27,913 What if you'd thrown your hands up 227 00:12:27,997 --> 00:12:29,331 in the air when you first heard that noise? 228 00:12:29,415 --> 00:12:30,833 Why didn't you do that? 229 00:12:31,584 --> 00:12:33,502 Look, I told you, 230 00:12:34,211 --> 00:12:37,757 I thought it could have been someone coming to get me. 231 00:12:38,799 --> 00:12:41,469 I didn't realize it was the police 232 00:12:42,261 --> 00:12:43,637 until they came in. 233 00:12:44,054 --> 00:12:46,223 And they came in taking aim. 234 00:12:49,810 --> 00:12:53,397 So after you shot the officers and they went down, 235 00:12:53,689 --> 00:12:56,484 you continued to shoot for four or five seconds. 236 00:12:57,526 --> 00:12:59,445 According to the coroner's report, 237 00:12:59,862 --> 00:13:04,617 you put approximately 20 bullets into each of them 238 00:13:05,034 --> 00:13:06,160 after they hit the floor. 239 00:13:06,494 --> 00:13:07,870 Um... Now, I didn't have my senses then. 240 00:13:07,995 --> 00:13:09,371 I... I was just, like, pulling the trigger, 241 00:13:09,580 --> 00:13:11,040 and, uh, I didn't have my senses. 242 00:13:11,165 --> 00:13:12,750 When you walked over and kicked them 243 00:13:12,875 --> 00:13:15,127 to make sure they were dead, did you have your senses then? 244 00:13:15,211 --> 00:13:19,799 Excuse me. By senses, do you mean the sensibilities one grows up with 245 00:13:19,799 --> 00:13:21,842 - in privileged White suburbia? - [banging gavel] 246 00:13:21,967 --> 00:13:25,638 Mr. Thomas, don't be pulling your stunts here. 247 00:13:26,222 --> 00:13:27,765 Oh, I'm sorry, Your Honor. 248 00:13:27,973 --> 00:13:30,309 I didn't think that drawing an accurate picture 249 00:13:30,309 --> 00:13:33,687 of this boy's reality would be classified as a stunt. 250 00:13:35,481 --> 00:13:37,024 Step up here a second. 251 00:13:38,234 --> 00:13:39,985 [people murmuring] 252 00:13:43,489 --> 00:13:46,116 If you try doing to me what you do to other judges, 253 00:13:46,534 --> 00:13:48,410 you'll experience regret. 254 00:13:48,786 --> 00:13:51,372 Stick to the case, we'll get along fine. 255 00:13:51,997 --> 00:13:55,501 Resort to manipulative crap, I'll embarrass you badly. 256 00:13:56,836 --> 00:13:58,504 Do we have an understanding? 257 00:13:58,963 --> 00:14:01,841 - Yes, Your Honor. - Good. Get back. 258 00:14:04,677 --> 00:14:06,637 One more question, Mr. Robinson. 259 00:14:06,804 --> 00:14:09,515 Have you met the families of the officers you killed? 260 00:14:09,932 --> 00:14:11,267 No. 261 00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:14,395 - Here they are, right here. - [Bryant] Objection. 262 00:14:14,395 --> 00:14:16,355 Excuse me, Counsel. 263 00:14:16,564 --> 00:14:19,525 Do you mean to tell me that these families are irrelevant? 264 00:14:19,817 --> 00:14:21,235 Meaningless? 265 00:14:21,527 --> 00:14:23,237 Let the record reflect that I'm impressed 266 00:14:23,362 --> 00:14:25,739 with Mr. Littleton's token performance. 267 00:14:25,823 --> 00:14:27,616 - [Larry] Objection. - Let the record reflect 268 00:14:27,741 --> 00:14:30,077 that my Black pride is wounded. And as soon as we're finished here, 269 00:14:30,077 --> 00:14:31,829 I'm gonna run right out and rent Roots. 270 00:14:31,954 --> 00:14:35,165 - [banging gavel] - Hey, the record will reflect 271 00:14:35,374 --> 00:14:38,335 that I won't put up with any more nonsense from either of you. 272 00:14:38,586 --> 00:14:39,962 Try the case. 273 00:14:42,256 --> 00:14:44,925 The fear of the police was certainly well founded. 274 00:14:45,009 --> 00:14:47,052 It couldn't be classified as paranoia. 275 00:14:47,261 --> 00:14:50,097 He knew the nature and consequences of his actions. 276 00:14:50,264 --> 00:14:51,765 This was not insanity. 277 00:14:52,099 --> 00:14:54,018 He thought he was going to die. 278 00:14:54,018 --> 00:14:56,604 [man 1 on TV] The defendant could very well have been in shock. 279 00:14:57,146 --> 00:14:58,689 [woman on TV] Justifiable self-defense. 280 00:14:58,814 --> 00:15:01,483 The young man was in reasonable fear for his life. 281 00:15:02,109 --> 00:15:03,569 [man 2 on TV] Murder, first degree. 282 00:15:03,569 --> 00:15:05,905 It was a deliberate act to kill with clear intent. 283 00:15:06,196 --> 00:15:07,448 Absolutely. 284 00:15:07,573 --> 00:15:08,824 Absolutely not. 285 00:15:08,949 --> 00:15:10,534 - Thank you, doctor. - Thank you, doctor. 286 00:15:10,659 --> 00:15:13,037 Thank you, doctor. Now, may I say... 287 00:15:13,037 --> 00:15:14,663 - Nothing further. - Nothing further. 288 00:15:14,747 --> 00:15:16,248 Nothing further. 289 00:15:21,420 --> 00:15:24,924 I won't ask you to try to understand 290 00:15:26,050 --> 00:15:28,969 how a boy can grow up to sell cocaine for a living. 291 00:15:29,637 --> 00:15:31,847 I won't ask you to try to understand 292 00:15:32,097 --> 00:15:35,434 why he had a loaded Uzi under his sofa. 293 00:15:36,060 --> 00:15:38,062 And I certainly, most certainly, 294 00:15:38,604 --> 00:15:40,272 will not try to ask you 295 00:15:40,814 --> 00:15:43,525 to understand how he could take that weapon 296 00:15:43,901 --> 00:15:45,527 and shoot two policemen. 297 00:15:46,570 --> 00:15:50,449 All I will ask is that you admit you cannot understand. 298 00:15:50,783 --> 00:15:53,243 If you didn't grow up in an inner-city ghetto 299 00:15:53,535 --> 00:15:56,288 being beaten by your father and shouted by your neighbors, 300 00:15:56,497 --> 00:15:59,124 watching your mother murdered by people 301 00:15:59,208 --> 00:16:00,751 whose motto it is "To Serve and Protect," 302 00:16:00,876 --> 00:16:03,337 and admit, then, that you can't understand. 303 00:16:04,004 --> 00:16:07,549 And don't go in that juror room saying, "Well, gee, if it was me, 304 00:16:07,841 --> 00:16:10,344 I wouldn't do this. I wouldn't do that." Well, it wasn't you. 305 00:16:10,844 --> 00:16:13,639 He didn't grow up with your socio-economic background, 306 00:16:14,807 --> 00:16:17,559 with nurturing parents in a nice little town like this. 307 00:16:18,060 --> 00:16:20,646 It was his father, his father 308 00:16:21,438 --> 00:16:24,608 was the addict that turned him on the drugs. 309 00:16:25,150 --> 00:16:28,362 And then systematically abused and molested him. 310 00:16:28,821 --> 00:16:34,243 Just... have the decency to acknowledge that... 311 00:16:35,536 --> 00:16:40,082 you just don't have any idea of what it's like to be him. 312 00:16:41,458 --> 00:16:43,293 You heard the doctors tell you that 313 00:16:43,836 --> 00:16:45,796 because of his father's treatment, 314 00:16:45,921 --> 00:16:47,881 because he saw his mother killed by the police, 315 00:16:48,048 --> 00:16:49,591 he has no psychological basis whatsoever 316 00:16:49,758 --> 00:16:52,177 to even understand the concept of safety. 317 00:16:52,428 --> 00:16:55,389 The two institutions of protection that we all grew up with, 318 00:16:55,514 --> 00:16:57,641 the family, the police, 319 00:16:57,891 --> 00:17:00,144 for David Robinson are deadly forces. 320 00:17:00,352 --> 00:17:03,439 I could bring in 100 more experts, 321 00:17:04,356 --> 00:17:07,985 and you still wouldn't have any idea ever 322 00:17:08,360 --> 00:17:11,196 of what it's like to be him. 323 00:17:18,829 --> 00:17:21,331 Grief for the slain officers, of course. 324 00:17:23,542 --> 00:17:25,002 They were fine men. 325 00:17:26,003 --> 00:17:28,213 But if you're not grieving for David Robinson, 326 00:17:29,256 --> 00:17:31,091 at the same time, right here, 327 00:17:31,175 --> 00:17:34,219 then accept that as absolute proof 328 00:17:34,344 --> 00:17:38,599 that you just can't understand. 329 00:17:41,226 --> 00:17:42,603 [man clears throat] 330 00:17:48,776 --> 00:17:50,736 [people murmuring] 331 00:18:18,013 --> 00:18:19,932 [clicks remote buttons] 332 00:18:23,644 --> 00:18:24,770 [thud] 333 00:18:25,145 --> 00:18:26,605 - [cop 1 grunts] Freeze. - [cop 2] Freeze. 334 00:18:26,730 --> 00:18:29,483 - [gunfire] - [policemen groaning] 335 00:18:29,650 --> 00:18:34,071 [gunfire continues] 336 00:18:55,342 --> 00:18:57,386 Uh... Well, okay. 337 00:18:57,886 --> 00:19:02,224 I guess, maybe, we should go around the room, 338 00:19:02,349 --> 00:19:04,059 hear what everyone has to say. 339 00:19:04,143 --> 00:19:06,061 Jimmy, let's take a quick vote first. 340 00:19:06,311 --> 00:19:08,438 I mean, I don't think this is gonna take too long. 341 00:19:08,814 --> 00:19:12,109 Is there anybody in this room, doesn't think this guy's guilty? 342 00:19:13,819 --> 00:19:15,362 Even still, 343 00:19:16,029 --> 00:19:17,781 we should talk before we vote. 344 00:19:17,906 --> 00:19:19,032 What's to say? 345 00:19:19,158 --> 00:19:20,284 The only reason he stopped shooting 346 00:19:20,409 --> 00:19:22,161 is 'cause he ran out of bullets. 347 00:19:22,327 --> 00:19:23,662 He was scared. 348 00:19:24,663 --> 00:19:27,416 Even the psychologist supported that. They... 349 00:19:27,541 --> 00:19:30,294 Oh, I believe the psychiatric testimony was a wash. 350 00:19:30,502 --> 00:19:32,337 Half supported the self-defense claim, 351 00:19:32,421 --> 00:19:34,256 the other half summarily dismissed it. 352 00:19:34,256 --> 00:19:35,674 His father did abuse him. 353 00:19:35,674 --> 00:19:38,051 That was never refuted by the prosecution. 354 00:19:38,218 --> 00:19:40,929 - So? - So physical and sexual abuse 355 00:19:41,054 --> 00:19:44,224 can be very damaging emotionally. 356 00:19:44,474 --> 00:19:46,727 Look, I don't know about the rest of you, 357 00:19:47,144 --> 00:19:50,647 but I'm getting a little sick of these people killing people, 358 00:19:50,731 --> 00:19:52,858 committing murder, and then crying 359 00:19:52,858 --> 00:19:55,444 - "I was an abused child." - Exactly. 360 00:19:55,569 --> 00:19:58,530 Me, too. I don't care how much abuse a person takes. 361 00:19:58,739 --> 00:20:01,116 It can never excuse taking a human life. 362 00:20:01,241 --> 00:20:02,910 She is absolutely right. 363 00:20:02,910 --> 00:20:05,662 Well, I think we should take a quick vote. See where we are. 364 00:20:07,456 --> 00:20:08,957 All those for guilty? 365 00:20:13,170 --> 00:20:14,588 Okay, not guilty? 366 00:20:15,714 --> 00:20:17,299 Oh, give me a break. 367 00:20:17,507 --> 00:20:19,509 - Cindy, you didn't vote. - I feel nauseous. 368 00:20:19,676 --> 00:20:21,053 Conflict makes me queasy. 369 00:20:21,053 --> 00:20:23,555 Hey, lady, didn't you see that tape? 370 00:20:24,139 --> 00:20:25,390 I saw it. 371 00:20:25,599 --> 00:20:30,270 Okay, we got, uh, ten guilty, one not guilty. 372 00:20:31,605 --> 00:20:34,983 - And one, um, undecided. - [Cindy vomiting] 373 00:20:35,150 --> 00:20:37,361 This is great. This is great. 374 00:20:37,861 --> 00:20:40,948 Now, look, we do have to have this unanimous. 375 00:20:41,573 --> 00:20:43,325 Twelve to nothing. 376 00:20:45,994 --> 00:20:48,121 Mrs. Bayles, maybe we should hear from you. 377 00:20:48,247 --> 00:20:50,457 I have a reasonable doubt. 378 00:20:50,457 --> 00:20:53,418 Maybe, maybe he was scared for his life. 379 00:20:54,044 --> 00:20:56,088 I have a very reasonable doubt. 380 00:20:56,797 --> 00:21:00,509 Ma'am, ten of us just voted guilty, doesn't that tell you something? 381 00:21:00,676 --> 00:21:03,595 Yes, that Mr. Thomas was right. 382 00:21:04,137 --> 00:21:05,889 You don't understand. 383 00:21:07,224 --> 00:21:09,893 Oh, brother. All it takes is one. 384 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:11,979 Too bad then. 385 00:21:12,479 --> 00:21:13,855 You got one. 386 00:21:19,778 --> 00:21:22,447 [Lawson] Look, Mrs. Bayles, it's almost 11 o'clock. 387 00:21:22,531 --> 00:21:24,616 For the last seven hours, you just keep saying 388 00:21:24,700 --> 00:21:26,910 reasonable doubt, reasonable doubt. 389 00:21:27,035 --> 00:21:28,787 I think he was scared. 390 00:21:29,037 --> 00:21:30,497 He's watching television, 391 00:21:30,497 --> 00:21:33,500 suddenly people come busting in his door. 392 00:21:33,709 --> 00:21:35,419 Who wouldn't be afraid? 393 00:21:35,627 --> 00:21:36,795 But, ma'am, 394 00:21:37,462 --> 00:21:40,173 he fired after he recognized them as police. 395 00:21:40,257 --> 00:21:42,009 He testified to that. 396 00:21:42,342 --> 00:21:45,304 Even so, he thought the police would kill him. 397 00:21:45,512 --> 00:21:46,722 Oh, come on. 398 00:21:46,888 --> 00:21:48,724 [Crainpool] Well, the psychiatrist said 399 00:21:48,724 --> 00:21:51,351 that his fear of the police was legitimate. 400 00:21:51,518 --> 00:21:53,020 The psychiatrist you're referring to 401 00:21:53,145 --> 00:21:55,522 were paid by the defense to give that testimony. 402 00:21:55,689 --> 00:21:58,275 - Who said that? I never heard that. - Well, figure it out. 403 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,902 Or is it against the rules to use a little common sense. 404 00:22:01,028 --> 00:22:03,238 - Oh, come on. - You don't have to be snide. 405 00:22:03,405 --> 00:22:05,282 The guy killed him. We saw it. 406 00:22:05,615 --> 00:22:07,951 For you to say "not guilty," you gotta be out of your mind. 407 00:22:08,035 --> 00:22:09,786 She's not out of her mind. 408 00:22:09,870 --> 00:22:12,414 God. I'm starting to agree with her. 409 00:22:13,248 --> 00:22:14,416 Excuse me. 410 00:22:14,666 --> 00:22:16,960 I definitely think he was wrong, 411 00:22:17,085 --> 00:22:19,713 but it's possible that he was scared for his life. 412 00:22:20,005 --> 00:22:21,882 I mean, the police killed his mother. 413 00:22:21,882 --> 00:22:24,134 How can he not be scared when you think about it? 414 00:22:24,134 --> 00:22:26,053 See, this, this is a problem. 415 00:22:26,303 --> 00:22:28,930 These two women, they are what's wrong with the whole system. 416 00:22:29,181 --> 00:22:32,559 The reason that those Menendez whackos weren't convicted 417 00:22:32,684 --> 00:22:34,519 is because we had too many housewife jurors 418 00:22:34,603 --> 00:22:36,188 who spend their whole day watching Oprah 419 00:22:36,188 --> 00:22:37,981 - and Sarah Jessy Raul... - What's he saying? 420 00:22:38,106 --> 00:22:40,942 ...and buying into that psychobabble, cockamamie crap. 421 00:22:41,485 --> 00:22:43,570 That is not an appropriate thing to say. 422 00:22:43,570 --> 00:22:46,239 Well, I'm sorry, and I'm sure you're gonna need therapy 423 00:22:46,323 --> 00:22:47,324 now that I've said it. 424 00:22:47,324 --> 00:22:49,493 But the fact is, people everywhere 425 00:22:49,493 --> 00:22:51,119 are into this victimization thing. 426 00:22:51,244 --> 00:22:52,412 Look, everybody's a victim. 427 00:22:52,496 --> 00:22:54,247 Everybody's got psychological scars 428 00:22:54,331 --> 00:22:55,791 that made them do what they did. 429 00:22:55,791 --> 00:22:57,667 Shouldn't we let somebody else talk now? 430 00:22:57,793 --> 00:22:59,211 I'm not finished! 431 00:22:59,503 --> 00:23:01,505 My father used to beat the hell out of me. 432 00:23:01,671 --> 00:23:04,591 Lots of people have traumatic stuff in their past. 433 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,594 You know what the scientific term for that is? 434 00:23:08,136 --> 00:23:10,722 - Life. Life is tough. - [gasps] 435 00:23:11,390 --> 00:23:13,141 Look, I'm sorry this kid got molested. 436 00:23:13,266 --> 00:23:14,726 I'm sorry his mother got killed. 437 00:23:14,810 --> 00:23:17,270 But that doesn't give him the right to pick up an Uzi 438 00:23:17,354 --> 00:23:20,857 and pump 100 bullets into two innocent cops. 439 00:23:21,024 --> 00:23:24,319 Even so, according to the Judge's instructions, 440 00:23:24,444 --> 00:23:27,489 if he was afraid for his life, it was self-defense. 441 00:23:27,489 --> 00:23:30,700 If the fear is reasonable. These were policemen. 442 00:23:31,368 --> 00:23:32,536 So? 443 00:23:33,370 --> 00:23:35,997 Uh... So, of course, police are gonna have guns. 444 00:23:36,081 --> 00:23:37,624 It's their job. 445 00:23:38,041 --> 00:23:39,501 It's not reasonable to think 446 00:23:39,501 --> 00:23:41,670 because they have a gun, they're gonna shoot. 447 00:23:43,964 --> 00:23:46,007 [Kramer] Forgive me, um, but it was my understanding 448 00:23:46,091 --> 00:23:49,594 that policemen, uh, occasionally do shoot innocent people. 449 00:23:50,971 --> 00:23:53,515 As for the defendant's understanding, how could he not be fearful? 450 00:23:53,515 --> 00:23:56,601 As Mrs. Crainpool correctly points out, 451 00:23:56,685 --> 00:23:59,062 his own mother was murdered in his home by police. 452 00:24:01,356 --> 00:24:03,817 Um, so what are you saying? 453 00:24:03,817 --> 00:24:06,069 That because they were police, 454 00:24:06,653 --> 00:24:09,281 he had more reason to be afraid? 455 00:24:09,573 --> 00:24:11,366 I'm saying 'cause they were police, 456 00:24:11,450 --> 00:24:13,410 he had no less reason to be afraid. 457 00:24:14,661 --> 00:24:15,996 Mr. Kramer, 458 00:24:17,539 --> 00:24:20,750 to me your logic is preposterous. 459 00:24:21,126 --> 00:24:22,878 I'm sure it would be to you. 460 00:24:23,295 --> 00:24:24,713 You're a sheriff. 461 00:24:25,255 --> 00:24:27,048 But I'll tell you this, I'm a law-abiding citizen 462 00:24:27,132 --> 00:24:29,217 who's never had a run-in with law enforcement. 463 00:24:29,342 --> 00:24:31,553 But as soon as I see a cruiser in my rear-view mirror, 464 00:24:31,678 --> 00:24:33,680 the first sensation I feel is one of fear. 465 00:24:34,389 --> 00:24:37,017 I can imagine what goes through David Robinson. 466 00:24:37,392 --> 00:24:40,103 And so, that entitles him to blast anyone in a uniform 467 00:24:40,187 --> 00:24:42,564 - just because he... - It entitles him to be profoundly afraid 468 00:24:42,564 --> 00:24:44,983 of any uniform bashing down his front door. 469 00:24:46,818 --> 00:24:48,487 What line of work are you in? 470 00:24:48,945 --> 00:24:50,447 I'm a schoolteacher. 471 00:24:51,573 --> 00:24:52,741 Ah ha. 472 00:24:53,617 --> 00:24:55,076 What does that mean, "ah ha"? 473 00:24:55,243 --> 00:24:57,078 You talk like a schoolteacher. 474 00:24:57,496 --> 00:24:58,872 What do you do? 475 00:25:00,832 --> 00:25:03,835 I deliver mail for the United States Postal Service. 476 00:25:03,919 --> 00:25:05,795 [laughs] I see. 477 00:25:05,879 --> 00:25:08,673 Mr. Lawson, I certainly hope that you get a more sympathetic jury 478 00:25:08,757 --> 00:25:11,468 after you open fire one day in a... in a fast-food restaurant. 479 00:25:11,468 --> 00:25:13,345 - You think it's funny, huh? - [Jimmy] Nevermind. 480 00:25:13,345 --> 00:25:15,180 - That's enough. - You got something to say to me. 481 00:25:15,180 --> 00:25:17,224 - Come on, say it! - [Moriarity] No, no, no, this is not the 482 00:25:17,224 --> 00:25:18,892 least bit constructive. 483 00:25:18,892 --> 00:25:20,602 Now, what I would like to do 484 00:25:20,936 --> 00:25:24,189 is to isolate the two dividing points. 485 00:25:24,189 --> 00:25:25,690 Well, you're not the foreman. 486 00:25:25,982 --> 00:25:28,068 Uh... [laughs] I realize that, Mrs. Crainpool, 487 00:25:28,068 --> 00:25:29,945 but management is a strength. 488 00:25:29,945 --> 00:25:33,156 Yes, we all know that you're a big CEO of a big paper company, 489 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,701 but, uh, in this room, we're all the same. 490 00:25:36,952 --> 00:25:38,578 You're no more important than any of us. 491 00:25:38,703 --> 00:25:41,248 Uh-huh. You, uh, 492 00:25:41,623 --> 00:25:43,708 you wouldn't be using this room 493 00:25:43,792 --> 00:25:46,419 as an equalizer, would you, Mrs. Crainpool? 494 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,256 - I'm sorry. - Perhaps this is your opportunity 495 00:25:49,256 --> 00:25:52,884 as a housewife to be as significant as a CEO, 496 00:25:53,093 --> 00:25:56,096 and maybe your 15 minutes of influence has more relevance to you 497 00:25:56,096 --> 00:25:58,098 - than... than the facts of this case. - Right. Oh, yes. 498 00:25:58,306 --> 00:25:59,641 Now, you're getting off the track. 499 00:25:59,641 --> 00:26:01,017 Actually, I'm not. 500 00:26:01,184 --> 00:26:02,978 There's a hugely selfish tone 501 00:26:02,978 --> 00:26:04,646 to this whole deliberation. 502 00:26:04,813 --> 00:26:08,275 Opinions being dominated by a mailman, a schoolteacher, 503 00:26:08,275 --> 00:26:09,901 - and two housewives. - Oh. 504 00:26:09,985 --> 00:26:12,112 - What does that mean? - It means, Mr. Kramer, 505 00:26:12,112 --> 00:26:13,738 that for all your good intentions, 506 00:26:13,863 --> 00:26:16,700 I think that there is an unconscious infatuation 507 00:26:16,825 --> 00:26:18,493 with power that's being demonstrated 508 00:26:18,577 --> 00:26:21,454 by some people who don't normally enjoy it. 509 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,792 Not that pomposity could interfere with your judgment. 510 00:26:28,420 --> 00:26:30,797 - I wanna see the gun. - What? 511 00:26:31,089 --> 00:26:33,550 We're allowed to review the evidence, right? 512 00:26:35,260 --> 00:26:36,720 I wanna see the gun. 513 00:26:39,222 --> 00:26:42,100 - [clink] - It really is a machine of death. 514 00:26:42,100 --> 00:26:43,602 'Course it is. 515 00:26:43,810 --> 00:26:45,729 Let's let Mr. Kramer feel it. 516 00:26:45,895 --> 00:26:48,732 Come on. Come here. Come on. Take it. 517 00:26:49,608 --> 00:26:51,943 It feels different than a geography map, doesn't it? 518 00:26:52,027 --> 00:26:55,322 That's what that kid used to extinguish two human beings. 519 00:26:55,697 --> 00:26:58,074 So? What, uh, we're supposed to equate the... 520 00:26:58,199 --> 00:26:59,659 the ferocity of the weapon 521 00:26:59,743 --> 00:27:01,870 with the monstrosity of the boy? 522 00:27:02,412 --> 00:27:04,664 Isn't this game a little advanced for mailman? 523 00:27:04,956 --> 00:27:06,541 [Jimmy] You know something, Mr. Kramer? 524 00:27:06,708 --> 00:27:09,252 I'm getting a little annoyed at your attitude. 525 00:27:09,628 --> 00:27:12,422 You want to sympathize with the defendant. Fine. 526 00:27:12,547 --> 00:27:14,049 But what about those kids who were killed? 527 00:27:14,049 --> 00:27:16,343 They were in their 20s, those policemen. 528 00:27:17,052 --> 00:27:18,303 With families. 529 00:27:19,012 --> 00:27:21,765 Funny your compassion doesn't extend to them. 530 00:27:22,265 --> 00:27:24,809 I sympathize with them and their family, Sheriff. 531 00:27:25,518 --> 00:27:28,605 But I'm not vested with their lives right now, only David Robinson's. 532 00:27:28,855 --> 00:27:31,608 I have to recognize that he may have had a legitimate fear for his life 533 00:27:31,608 --> 00:27:33,234 when he pulled the trigger. 534 00:27:33,693 --> 00:27:37,155 Why can't we consider murder two or... or manslaughter? 535 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:38,907 The charge was murder one. 536 00:27:40,700 --> 00:27:42,786 There are no other options to consider. 537 00:27:42,786 --> 00:27:45,121 But that is just not fair. 538 00:27:45,538 --> 00:27:47,624 I mean, it seems like to me, 539 00:27:48,291 --> 00:27:50,502 it was heat of passion, the way it went down. 540 00:27:51,628 --> 00:27:53,004 Why do you say that? 541 00:27:54,297 --> 00:27:55,674 Well... 542 00:27:56,966 --> 00:27:58,718 it wasn't premeditated. 543 00:27:58,802 --> 00:28:00,470 I mean, this guy's just watching television, 544 00:28:00,470 --> 00:28:01,721 and then bam, 545 00:28:01,805 --> 00:28:03,306 his door goes down. 546 00:28:03,932 --> 00:28:06,309 That seems like heat of passion to me, isn't it? 547 00:28:06,601 --> 00:28:09,562 Heat of passion, uh, suggests anger or rage. 548 00:28:09,646 --> 00:28:11,648 Is... Is that what you think he was feeling? Rage? 549 00:28:11,773 --> 00:28:14,526 - No, not rage... - Then, then what? 550 00:28:18,571 --> 00:28:19,572 Fear? 551 00:28:21,658 --> 00:28:22,659 Yeah. 552 00:28:24,577 --> 00:28:25,662 Fear. 553 00:28:30,750 --> 00:28:33,253 - I'm changing my vote. - [indistinct chatter] 554 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,797 Hold it. Just a second. 555 00:28:37,048 --> 00:28:39,592 Consider what you're suggesting here. 556 00:28:39,676 --> 00:28:41,344 The police did nothing wrong. 557 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,388 Pursuant to a valid warrant, 558 00:28:43,388 --> 00:28:46,141 they entered the premises of a convicted drug dealer 559 00:28:46,141 --> 00:28:49,686 whereupon they were promptly shot dead by that drug dealer. 560 00:28:49,686 --> 00:28:53,773 Now, do you really, really mean to say this kid was justified? 561 00:28:54,023 --> 00:28:57,360 - Well, I'm... I'm... - He didn't know they were police. 562 00:28:57,652 --> 00:28:59,362 I mean, maybe they don't have the right to come in and 563 00:28:59,446 --> 00:29:01,281 bash down his door unannounced. 564 00:29:01,406 --> 00:29:03,742 Yes, they did have the right. They had a no-knock warrant. 565 00:29:03,742 --> 00:29:06,578 They had, uh, every right to do that. Their actions were valid. 566 00:29:06,828 --> 00:29:09,748 The defendant didn't know anything about warrants. 567 00:29:09,748 --> 00:29:12,375 All he knew was that somebody was crashing through his door. 568 00:29:12,459 --> 00:29:14,961 You're rewarding him for being a drug dealer. 569 00:29:14,961 --> 00:29:17,797 - Don't talk to me like that. - Don't you see what you're doing? 570 00:29:17,964 --> 00:29:20,967 Because he sold drugs and cheated people, 571 00:29:20,967 --> 00:29:22,719 he put himself in a high-risk position, 572 00:29:22,719 --> 00:29:24,846 and because he was in a high-risk position, 573 00:29:24,971 --> 00:29:27,140 you are licensing him to become afraid 574 00:29:27,140 --> 00:29:29,267 and therefore shoot policemen. It's ludicrous. 575 00:29:29,267 --> 00:29:31,644 I go back to the Judge's instruction. 576 00:29:32,103 --> 00:29:36,191 If he was afraid, it's self-defense. Period. 577 00:29:36,191 --> 00:29:38,234 No. Reasonably afraid is what he said. 578 00:29:38,359 --> 00:29:39,694 - Reasonably. - [all clamoring] 579 00:29:39,778 --> 00:29:42,489 - ...shot at... - Everybody quiet. 580 00:29:42,614 --> 00:29:45,784 - You're not the foreman. - Shut up! 581 00:29:50,580 --> 00:29:51,873 We're deadlocked. 582 00:29:54,584 --> 00:29:56,085 How deadlocked? 583 00:29:56,169 --> 00:29:57,504 Six to six. 584 00:29:57,962 --> 00:30:00,548 [smacks lips] It seems rather hopeless. 585 00:30:00,632 --> 00:30:03,092 But you've only been deliberating for two days. 586 00:30:03,259 --> 00:30:05,261 [sighs] 587 00:30:05,345 --> 00:30:07,180 Nobody will budge, Your Honor. 588 00:30:19,776 --> 00:30:21,444 The fact that you're coming back in here 589 00:30:21,528 --> 00:30:23,196 waving a white flag so fast 590 00:30:24,113 --> 00:30:25,365 is an indication to me 591 00:30:25,365 --> 00:30:28,117 that you don't take your responsibility seriously enough. 592 00:30:31,246 --> 00:30:32,831 Well, understand this. 593 00:30:34,123 --> 00:30:36,835 I'm not declaring this a mistrial. 594 00:30:37,252 --> 00:30:40,797 You'll spend ten hours a day for two weeks straight 595 00:30:41,256 --> 00:30:45,927 before I'll even entertain the notion of a hung jury. 596 00:30:46,678 --> 00:30:49,931 And if I get the slightest sign that anybody 597 00:30:50,765 --> 00:30:52,517 is not concentrating back in that room, 598 00:30:52,517 --> 00:30:54,227 I'll hold you in contempt. 599 00:30:55,687 --> 00:30:59,232 You're also sequestered as of right now. 600 00:31:00,149 --> 00:31:01,985 Forget about seeing your families. 601 00:31:03,444 --> 00:31:05,071 You think this is a joke. 602 00:31:05,738 --> 00:31:07,198 We had the trial. 603 00:31:07,490 --> 00:31:09,200 We gave you the evidence. 604 00:31:09,492 --> 00:31:11,619 Everybody did his job. 605 00:31:12,787 --> 00:31:15,623 You get back in that room and do yours. 606 00:31:21,296 --> 00:31:22,630 Get out. 607 00:31:26,009 --> 00:31:27,093 [door slams shut] 608 00:31:30,889 --> 00:31:32,223 - [grunts] Freeze. - Freeze. 609 00:31:32,348 --> 00:31:33,933 - [gunfire] - [rewinding tape] 610 00:31:34,017 --> 00:31:35,393 - [grunts] Freeze. - Freeze. 611 00:31:35,393 --> 00:31:37,228 - [gunfire] - [rewinding tape] 612 00:31:37,353 --> 00:31:38,521 - [grunts] Freeze. - Freeze. 613 00:31:38,605 --> 00:31:39,814 Jimmy, you have to keep running that 614 00:31:39,898 --> 00:31:41,608 back and forth like that? 615 00:31:41,858 --> 00:31:43,192 - [squeaking] - Yeah, I do. 616 00:31:43,318 --> 00:31:46,905 Look, right there. See? 617 00:31:47,405 --> 00:31:50,408 He picks up the Uzi before the door comes down. 618 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,077 Before he knows it's the police. 619 00:31:53,161 --> 00:31:55,330 We've covered that. He didn't know at first who it was. 620 00:31:55,538 --> 00:31:57,874 But he knew it was the police before he shot. 621 00:31:58,041 --> 00:32:00,668 Can't you admit that or are you just too damn stubborn? 622 00:32:00,752 --> 00:32:03,379 You know, you are not a helpful person. 623 00:32:03,463 --> 00:32:06,507 Every time you speak, you're putting somebody down. 624 00:32:06,758 --> 00:32:08,217 I'll keep that in mind. 625 00:32:08,301 --> 00:32:09,719 Go puke in the corner. 626 00:32:09,719 --> 00:32:11,179 - Hey. - Hey. 627 00:32:11,179 --> 00:32:13,139 I'm really getting fed up with you. 628 00:32:13,348 --> 00:32:15,016 Oh, you're fed up. I'm fed up. 629 00:32:15,141 --> 00:32:16,684 I'm sick of all of you. 630 00:32:16,768 --> 00:32:19,354 How can you sit there and watch this tape 631 00:32:19,604 --> 00:32:21,272 and forgive what this kid did? 632 00:32:21,397 --> 00:32:24,150 - You don't know him. - Who does know him, huh? 633 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,402 Did he put up any character witnesses? 634 00:32:26,527 --> 00:32:29,864 Did we hear from anyone who knew this son-of-a-bitch? No. 635 00:32:30,239 --> 00:32:34,327 We didn't get to listen to one person who even met him. 636 00:32:34,327 --> 00:32:37,330 Besides paid experts 637 00:32:37,330 --> 00:32:39,332 nobody stood up for this psychotic 638 00:32:39,332 --> 00:32:41,167 except for the fools in this room. 639 00:32:41,376 --> 00:32:43,294 Mr. Wambaugh knew him. And he chooses to represent... 640 00:32:43,503 --> 00:32:45,421 Wambaugh! Wambaugh is your shyster. 641 00:32:45,546 --> 00:32:48,841 He'd represent anybody. We all know how they are. 642 00:32:49,008 --> 00:32:50,176 Who? 643 00:32:52,178 --> 00:32:53,763 How "who" are? 644 00:32:54,931 --> 00:32:56,349 Lawyers. 645 00:32:58,434 --> 00:33:02,146 You feel the same way about Blacks that you do about Jews? 646 00:33:02,230 --> 00:33:04,732 [Lawson] No, no, no, this is not a Black thing. 647 00:33:04,941 --> 00:33:07,902 This is not about prejudice. No. 648 00:33:08,069 --> 00:33:10,822 These... These two cops were killed by that kid. 649 00:33:10,822 --> 00:33:13,241 I'm doing my job as a juror. Period. 650 00:33:13,449 --> 00:33:15,827 None of us are doing our job here. 651 00:33:17,412 --> 00:33:18,830 Well, look at us. 652 00:33:19,831 --> 00:33:22,291 We're supposed to be impartial. 653 00:33:22,625 --> 00:33:24,460 We've become advocates. 654 00:33:26,087 --> 00:33:28,923 You, you're trying to beat him. 655 00:33:30,008 --> 00:33:31,384 And you, 656 00:33:31,718 --> 00:33:33,428 you're trying to stick it to him. 657 00:33:36,389 --> 00:33:39,600 It's more about winning and losing 658 00:33:40,518 --> 00:33:43,479 for us in this room than it is for the attorneys. 659 00:33:44,355 --> 00:33:47,442 This is a stupid, stupid process. 660 00:33:48,067 --> 00:33:52,113 What's going on in this room has nothing to do with the pursuit of truth. 661 00:33:52,113 --> 00:33:54,991 The truth is on the tape. It's on the tape. 662 00:33:54,991 --> 00:33:57,452 The truth is in that boy's head. 663 00:33:57,994 --> 00:34:00,204 Look, I know he's probably evil, 664 00:34:00,288 --> 00:34:03,791 but I still say he had to be afraid. 665 00:34:04,625 --> 00:34:06,127 Mrs. Bayles. 666 00:34:08,713 --> 00:34:12,925 [sighs] I've been a law officer for a long, long time. 667 00:34:14,886 --> 00:34:18,806 People who are afraid cower, they flee, they flinch. 668 00:34:18,890 --> 00:34:22,226 This man reacted with extreme aggression. 669 00:34:22,602 --> 00:34:24,062 Exactly. Good point. 670 00:34:24,270 --> 00:34:27,231 May I ask you a question, sir? Don't policemen get afraid? 671 00:34:27,482 --> 00:34:29,025 Of course they do. 672 00:34:29,233 --> 00:34:31,194 If you encountered somebody who suddenly pulls a gun on you, 673 00:34:31,194 --> 00:34:32,820 don't you... don't you open fire? 674 00:34:32,904 --> 00:34:34,197 That's different. 675 00:34:34,363 --> 00:34:36,491 If someone points a gun at you, you shoot. 676 00:34:36,491 --> 00:34:37,909 - I have to. - [Kramer] Why? 677 00:34:37,909 --> 00:34:39,368 If I don't, I'm dead. 678 00:34:39,619 --> 00:34:41,245 [Kramer] Do you think that drug dealers know this? 679 00:34:41,370 --> 00:34:43,623 That you will shoot if they point a gun at you? 680 00:34:46,751 --> 00:34:48,961 This man had an Uzi pointed at the door. 681 00:34:49,378 --> 00:34:52,423 Suddenly, that door came down and that Uzi was pointed at police. 682 00:34:52,632 --> 00:34:55,218 With an Uzi pointed at two armed policemen, 683 00:34:55,218 --> 00:34:58,805 was it not reasonable for this man to think that they would shoot? 684 00:35:03,101 --> 00:35:06,896 Listen, I'm keeping my mouth shut here, and minding my own business. 685 00:35:06,896 --> 00:35:07,980 There's not a person in this room 686 00:35:08,064 --> 00:35:09,357 who doesn't appreciate the enormity of that feat. 687 00:35:09,482 --> 00:35:11,567 - Okay, that's it. You've had it. - Ed. Ed. 688 00:35:11,651 --> 00:35:13,861 - [woman] Oh. - [man] This is ridiculous. 689 00:35:14,028 --> 00:35:15,655 Hold it. Come on. 690 00:35:15,780 --> 00:35:17,740 - Everybody take a breath. - Jimmy, I'm okay. 691 00:35:19,158 --> 00:35:22,328 Let's... Let's consider for a second 692 00:35:23,079 --> 00:35:25,289 what our role is in here. 693 00:35:26,332 --> 00:35:28,292 It's to serve society, right? 694 00:35:30,795 --> 00:35:32,630 Good. Great. 695 00:35:32,964 --> 00:35:35,758 Well, if we all agree 696 00:35:36,050 --> 00:35:39,178 that we should give society the benefit of the doubt, 697 00:35:39,595 --> 00:35:42,098 how can we put this kid back on the street? 698 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,142 Maybe it's not his fault 699 00:35:44,142 --> 00:35:46,727 for having the psychological problems that he has. 700 00:35:46,894 --> 00:35:49,313 He nevertheless is a killer. 701 00:35:50,481 --> 00:35:54,861 Mrs. Bayles, I think you even admitted the boy is probably evil. 702 00:35:54,861 --> 00:35:58,573 But I still think he could have acted in self-defense. 703 00:35:58,739 --> 00:35:59,907 Okay. 704 00:36:00,241 --> 00:36:01,742 Even if he did. 705 00:36:01,909 --> 00:36:04,287 In fact, let's assume that he did. 706 00:36:04,579 --> 00:36:07,331 Is society better off by an acquittal? 707 00:36:08,291 --> 00:36:11,669 The man sells cocaine and heroin, 708 00:36:12,253 --> 00:36:14,797 and is probably responsible for killing kids. 709 00:36:15,423 --> 00:36:17,550 He has an arsenal of weapons in his apartment, 710 00:36:17,550 --> 00:36:20,261 ready to shoot anybody who comes in the door too quickly. 711 00:36:20,386 --> 00:36:22,096 If we set him free, 712 00:36:23,097 --> 00:36:24,390 we know, 713 00:36:25,224 --> 00:36:26,517 we know... 714 00:36:26,976 --> 00:36:28,561 he will kill again. 715 00:36:29,353 --> 00:36:31,731 Is there anybody here who seriously doubts that? 716 00:36:35,610 --> 00:36:37,445 [juror clears throat] 717 00:36:39,739 --> 00:36:42,366 Well, when he does... 718 00:36:45,077 --> 00:36:46,495 how do we go on? 719 00:36:48,247 --> 00:36:50,416 How do we look our children in the eye and say, 720 00:36:50,416 --> 00:36:52,919 "Yeah, we are ones who put him back out there." 721 00:36:55,546 --> 00:36:59,800 How do we look into the eyes of the families of his next victims? 722 00:37:02,845 --> 00:37:08,309 David Robinson is a hardened drug-dealing criminal who kills, 723 00:37:09,143 --> 00:37:11,812 then kicks the body to make sure it's dead. 724 00:37:13,189 --> 00:37:15,274 I didn't see remorse on that tape. 725 00:37:16,484 --> 00:37:17,860 I didn't see shock. 726 00:37:19,153 --> 00:37:21,405 I saw a kid who killed easily, 727 00:37:22,531 --> 00:37:23,991 who could kill again. 728 00:37:26,369 --> 00:37:28,412 Is that what you saw, Mr. Kramer? 729 00:37:37,505 --> 00:37:38,756 Mrs. Crainpool? 730 00:37:42,927 --> 00:37:44,011 [sighs] 731 00:37:52,144 --> 00:37:54,563 If we're that forgiving a community, 732 00:37:55,648 --> 00:37:56,774 God, 733 00:37:58,609 --> 00:38:01,112 David Robinson may want to come here to live. 734 00:38:02,822 --> 00:38:04,448 Do we want that? 735 00:38:15,876 --> 00:38:17,920 Maybe we should take another vote. 736 00:38:21,048 --> 00:38:25,303 [indistinct chatter] 737 00:38:35,688 --> 00:38:38,691 - I just need a second till they go away. - Fine. 738 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,360 [laughs] 739 00:38:43,195 --> 00:38:44,488 What? 740 00:38:45,281 --> 00:38:48,159 I'm not supposed to prosecute this because I'm Black, is that it? 741 00:38:48,284 --> 00:38:50,619 You can prosecute whomever you want. 742 00:38:51,078 --> 00:38:54,415 A Black jury would convict him in ten minutes. 743 00:38:55,583 --> 00:38:58,627 Well, then we should all be grateful the system is White, 744 00:38:58,711 --> 00:39:02,048 because it is the White society that holds our Black opportunity, isn't it? 745 00:39:02,381 --> 00:39:04,133 Don't have to tell you that. 746 00:39:06,969 --> 00:39:08,596 You pervert the system 747 00:39:09,180 --> 00:39:12,266 using every opportunity to make this thing about race, 748 00:39:12,391 --> 00:39:14,310 every trick to exploit the fact... 749 00:39:14,310 --> 00:39:16,395 White cops, Black suspect. 750 00:39:16,562 --> 00:39:18,397 It will be about race. 751 00:39:18,564 --> 00:39:20,399 That's not the issue this time. 752 00:39:20,566 --> 00:39:23,235 You pick your issues, Counsel, and I'll pick mine. 753 00:39:23,778 --> 00:39:25,946 It is an adversary process. 754 00:39:26,489 --> 00:39:28,032 It's supposed to work. 755 00:39:34,163 --> 00:39:35,331 Guilty. 756 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,249 Guilty. 757 00:39:38,084 --> 00:39:39,293 Guilty. 758 00:39:40,294 --> 00:39:41,629 Guilty. 759 00:39:44,298 --> 00:39:45,466 Guilty. 760 00:39:47,009 --> 00:39:51,055 Please, I've got kids playing on these streets. 761 00:39:52,431 --> 00:39:54,392 I still think he was afraid. 762 00:39:56,977 --> 00:39:59,897 But I also think he probably would kill again. 763 00:40:02,274 --> 00:40:03,651 I'm changing my vote. 764 00:40:06,028 --> 00:40:07,363 Guilty. 765 00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:11,242 [Cindy] You're the only one, Mrs. Crainpool. 766 00:40:12,952 --> 00:40:14,537 The only one. 767 00:40:17,081 --> 00:40:18,416 [sighs] 768 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,919 - Okay. - All right. 769 00:40:22,044 --> 00:40:23,587 [indistinct chatter] 770 00:40:23,671 --> 00:40:25,714 [Jimmy] Hold it. 771 00:40:25,881 --> 00:40:27,258 I haven't voted yet. 772 00:40:32,346 --> 00:40:33,931 - Not guilty. - [woman] What? 773 00:40:34,098 --> 00:40:35,474 What did you say? 774 00:40:35,558 --> 00:40:36,934 You heard me. 775 00:40:37,268 --> 00:40:38,477 Sheriff Brock? 776 00:40:39,270 --> 00:40:41,147 I don't think he's innocent. 777 00:40:41,981 --> 00:40:44,525 But if we're gonna send a kid away for life, 778 00:40:45,109 --> 00:40:49,113 we have to do it because we are convinced he's guilty. 779 00:40:49,363 --> 00:40:50,823 Oh, come on, Jimmy, we are. 780 00:40:50,823 --> 00:40:52,783 [stutters] Take a look at the vote. 781 00:40:52,867 --> 00:40:57,621 No. You voted that way because of Mr. Moriarity's speech. 782 00:40:58,914 --> 00:41:03,169 You voted to convict because you're afraid he'll kill again, 783 00:41:03,335 --> 00:41:04,837 as am I. 784 00:41:07,006 --> 00:41:09,550 But we can only convict for what he did, 785 00:41:09,675 --> 00:41:12,052 not because of what he might do. 786 00:41:12,136 --> 00:41:15,556 Not because of what we know he will do. 787 00:41:19,101 --> 00:41:20,561 If we think... 788 00:41:22,354 --> 00:41:25,524 [smacks lips] ...he acted out of self-defense, we have to acquit, 789 00:41:25,608 --> 00:41:27,776 even if we are positive he'll kill again 790 00:41:27,902 --> 00:41:30,738 - when he gets out. - Really? 791 00:41:30,988 --> 00:41:34,200 Come on, Jimmy. You don't believe this is self-defense, not for a second. 792 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,788 The Uzi is in his hand 793 00:41:40,623 --> 00:41:42,833 when the two policemen come through the door. 794 00:41:44,251 --> 00:41:47,922 Now, in a situation like this, the police have to shoot. No discretion. 795 00:41:49,798 --> 00:41:52,426 A suspect has an automatic weapon in his hand, 796 00:41:52,510 --> 00:41:54,261 you shoot, no question. 797 00:41:54,803 --> 00:41:58,682 If David Robinson is looking at those officers and he's thinking, 798 00:41:59,808 --> 00:42:01,227 "I'm a dead man," 799 00:42:02,186 --> 00:42:04,480 he's 100% right. 800 00:42:04,605 --> 00:42:06,482 If he didn't shoot, he'd be dead. 801 00:42:08,609 --> 00:42:10,986 So how can this not be self-defense? 802 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:17,243 We can't. We can't just turn this kid free. 803 00:42:17,910 --> 00:42:19,453 Well, maybe we don't. 804 00:42:22,581 --> 00:42:24,583 But Mr. Kramer is right. 805 00:42:24,833 --> 00:42:26,627 The kid had to be afraid. 806 00:42:28,879 --> 00:42:32,633 So the only question here is, uh, do we lock him up just the same? 807 00:42:34,176 --> 00:42:36,345 Because Mr. Moriarity is right, too. 808 00:42:36,929 --> 00:42:39,431 The kid will kill again. 809 00:42:50,025 --> 00:42:51,443 [chair creaking] 810 00:42:57,533 --> 00:43:00,494 - [woman] All right. All right. All right. - [indistinct chatter] 811 00:43:15,384 --> 00:43:16,427 [door closes] 812 00:43:16,427 --> 00:43:18,971 [footsteps approaching] 813 00:43:34,612 --> 00:43:36,864 Will the defendant please rise? 814 00:43:42,578 --> 00:43:44,705 Mr. Foreman, has the jury reached a verdict? 815 00:43:47,082 --> 00:43:48,751 We have, Your Honor. 816 00:43:49,376 --> 00:43:50,628 What say you? 817 00:43:53,756 --> 00:43:56,008 On the charge of murder in the first degree, 818 00:43:56,008 --> 00:43:59,053 we the jury find the defendant David Robinson... 819 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,307 - not guilty. - [woman 1 gasps] 820 00:44:03,307 --> 00:44:05,059 - [woman 2] What? - [people murmuring] 821 00:44:10,689 --> 00:44:14,068 Members of the jury, thank you for your time. 822 00:44:14,568 --> 00:44:16,528 The defendant is free to go. 823 00:44:16,654 --> 00:44:18,072 This matter is adjourned. 824 00:44:18,072 --> 00:44:19,239 [bangs gavel] 825 00:44:19,323 --> 00:44:20,866 [indistinct chatter] 826 00:44:27,331 --> 00:44:30,125 [indistinct chatter] 827 00:44:58,862 --> 00:45:01,907 [theme music playing] 828 00:45:23,512 --> 00:45:25,097 [theme music ends] 63405

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