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[indistinct chatter]
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- Excuse me, Mr. Littleton?
- Yeah.
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I'm Larry Adler from
the Attorney General's office.
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Oh. How are you doing?
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I apologize for the intrusion,
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but... I'm handling
the David Robinson prosecution.
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You familiar with the case?
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Oh, you can't turn on the news
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- without seeing that videotape.
- Exactly.
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Well, yesterday the defense attorney
won his venue motion.
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The case has been
transferred to Rome.
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- Here?
- Your Judge Bone accepted it.
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We begin voir dire tomorrow.
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I'd like you to handle it.
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- I... I beg your pardon.
- With me.
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The facts were simple.
I can have you up to speed in an hour.
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Wait, you want me
to try this case? Why?
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Well, the jurors here will see
in you a face they trust.
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You're an exceptional DA
and you're...
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The defendant's attorney
is Bryant Thomas.
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I'm sure he's going
to characterize this prosecution
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as an exercise in White supremacy.
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And you have the necessary...
pigmentation to neutralize that attack.
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I don't appreciate being selected
because of skin color, Mr. Adler.
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You've seen the videotape.
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Yes.
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Is it your opinion,
Mr. Robinson committed murder?
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- Yes.
- Then what else do you need
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as a prosecutor to go forward?
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I'm trying to put a killer
behind bars.
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If your being Black
helps serve that purpose,
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I'm not ashamed to avail myself
of that advantage.
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Will you do it or not?
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[theme music playing]
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[theme music ends]
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- [man] Sherriff's Department.
- I got summoned to jury duty.
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Well, half the town's
been summoned, Ginny.
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It's a big murder trial.
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I don't have time to sit
on a jury.
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Well, your last name begins
with "W."
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By the time they get to you,
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the jury
will probably be filled.
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I got summoned, too.
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Pike. They'll probably
get to "P."
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God, I'd love to be
on that jury.
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- Why?
- Why?
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Bryant Thomas
is the defense attorney.
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The "Bryant Thomas."
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- We should be co-counsel.
- Why is that?
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You're asking me why?
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The jurors of Rome all know me.
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- Plus which you're very Black.
- Oh, I see.
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The defendant
is African-American.
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I would hate
for the jurors to think
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that you took this case
out of race alone.
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Me they know.
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That I would only represent
the client I believed in.
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Do you believe David Robinson
is innocent?
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With all my heart.
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As soon as I'm on retainer.
If you did your homework,
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you would know me and want me
'cause I always win.
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I have done my homework,
Mr. Wambaugh.
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I know exactly who you are,
and you're hired.
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I am?
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There's been a lot of publicity
in this case.
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Do you believe you can render
an impartial judgment?
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I believe I could.
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This juror is acceptable,
Your Honor.
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Do you believe that these news
accounts are true?
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I don't know.
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Mrs. Bayles, these are policemen
who were killed.
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Do you believe it's possible
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that anybody could be justified
in killing a policeman?
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Well, it would depend
on what the officer was doing.
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Defense accepts this juror.
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Mrs. Bayles, report
to the jury room.
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Oh, and tell Walter he'll be cooking
his own meals for a while.
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- Next?
- [Bailiff] James Brock.
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[indistinct chatter]
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[Littleton] Prosecution accepts
Sheriff Brock, Your Honor.
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Ask he be removed for cause.
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Objection. He maybe the police
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but he's an objective
and a fair man.
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I agree. Sheriff Brock
is capable of impartiality.
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If you want to remove him,
you will have to use
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one of your peremptory challenges.
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He is fair
and he goes for underdogs.
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- He's gotta be pro-police.
- Just the opposite.
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He's so objective you can vomit.
Take him.
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- We accept this man.
- [man] What?
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Uh, Your Honor, I'm...
I'm the sheriff.
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You're also on the jury. Next.
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[indistinct chatter]
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Are you sure about him?
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A murder is a murder. He'd put
away his own best friend.
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[Judge] Jill Brock?
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Uh, removed for cause, Your Honor,
she's married to the last juror.
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If you want to exercise
a challenge, do it.
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But she's fair. There's no cause.
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- What about her?
- The worst.
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She's married to a cop.
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Plus which, her own son
just got shot. Get rid of her.
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We challenge.
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Dr. Brock, you are excused.
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[scoffs]
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[Larry] Have you ever served
on a jury before?
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Do you keep a gun in the house?
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What kind of bumper stickers
do you have on your car?
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Have you ever participated in any,
uh, protests or demonstrations?
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If he didn't do it,
they wouldn't have arrested him.
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I only slept with one policeman.
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Rodney King was on PCP.
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It's a total breakdown
of the community's morals.
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Are you related
to any police officers?
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If he'd murder, he'd lie.
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Three strikes, you're in.
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- I could be fair.
- I could be fair.
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I could be fair.
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Ladies and gentlemen, I'd now
like to show you a videotape.
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Now, I'm sure most of you have seen this
on news broadcast before,
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but I'm asking you to forget
what you've heard and what you've seen,
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and just pay attention
to what we present here.
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[Bryant] Your Honor,
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defense renews its objection
to this videotape.
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Overruled.
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Members of the jury,
this tape was recorded
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by the defendant's
own home security system.
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The court recognizes
its authenticity. Play it.
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Now, you'll notice at the end,
we've enhanced the picture electronically
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for identification.
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[thud]
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- [grunts] Freeze.
- Freeze .
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- [gunfire]
- [policemen groaning]
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[suspenseful music playing]
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David.
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We all saw that tape.
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What we need to hear
from you now is,
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what the hell were you thinking?
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I sell drugs
to a lot of bad people,
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guys who would shoot me dead
faster than that.
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- Thought it was them.
- [Bryant chuckles] Come on, David.
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Why would a client
wanna shoot you?
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I cheated them.
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Sold some sugar sometimes.
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Oh, so you thought,
maybe it was someone that you cheated
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- come looking for a payback?
- Yeah.
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Next thing I know, I just see
guns flying all up in the air.
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Didn't you recognize
these people as police officers?
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Yes.
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You still shot at them?
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They was pointing their guns at me.
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If I didn't shoot them,
I'd be dead.
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Have the police shot at you before?
Or anybody close to you?
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This ain't about that.
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Have the police shot at you
or anybody you love?
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[people murmuring]
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Please answer the question.
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[mumbles] My mother.
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Excuse me?
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They... They killed my mother.
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[people murmuring]
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And why?
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My mother and my father
was fighting,
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and they came...
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[stutters] She waived
the knife at them.
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And they... they shot her.
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Your Honor...
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I introduce this autopsy report
on Mrs. Robinson.
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Objection. Irrelevant.
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Policemen killed this boy's mother.
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It is your position that
that fact is irrelevant?
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Meaningless?
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The people
withdraw the objection.
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Let the record reflect
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that Mrs. Robinson
was struck by seven bullets,
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three of them in the back.
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Let the record also reflect
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Milwaukee Internal Affairs
lists the killing as justified.
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No officer was disciplined.
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David,
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were you there
when the police killed your mother?
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Yes.
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And how old were you
at this time?
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[sighs]
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I was nine.
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Nine years old.
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[people murmuring]
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I don't think he had to keep shooting,
that's all, Jimmy. No matter how...
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We're not supposed
to talk about it yet.
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- What the Judge said.
- [Moriarity] It might be expedient
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to just organize the facts
without editorializing.
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No. There's no discussion
till all the evidence is in.
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I heard at the Menendez trial
some of the jurors went kind of crazy.
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- [laughs]
- Ask me, they're all crazy.
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- How could not have fried those two kids?
- Uh...
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I don't think we should talk
about that trial either.
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What, we just sit here
and talk about nothing?
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Maybe we should
choose a foreman.
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- We can do that, can't we?
- Yeah.
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I think it should be you, Jimmy.
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- [in unison] Yes.
- [Lawson] Sheriff Brock.
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Uh, I don't think
that's a good idea.
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- [indistinct chatter]
- [man] Why not?
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You understand the law
better than any of us.
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- He'll be foreman.
- It's got to be you, Jimmy.
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I vote for it.
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- [all agreeing]
- Great.
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[indistinct chatter]
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Why did you have video equipment
set up in your apartment?
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I have a safe room in the back
where I usually work.
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The video so I could see
if people were coming.
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So you had an expectation
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that people could come
crashing through your door?
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I knew it could happen.
I wasn't, like, expecting it.
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Well, in fact, the police had
entered your apartment before
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to conduct a search,
hadn't they?
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Once.
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So when you picked up
your automatic weapon,
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you at least had to entertain
the possibility
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that the people coming in
were law enforcement officers.
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All I knew was that someone
could be coming in to get me.
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But then you recognized them
as police officers,
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and you still just started shooting.
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They was about to shoot me.
Their guns was up.
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What if you hadn't
picked up your gun?
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What if you'd thrown your hands up
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in the air
when you first heard that noise?
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Why didn't you do that?
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Look, I told you,
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I thought it could have been
someone coming to get me.
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I didn't realize it was the police
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until they came in.
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And they came in taking aim.
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So after you shot the officers
and they went down,
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you continued to shoot
for four or five seconds.
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According to
the coroner's report,
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you put approximately 20 bullets
into each of them
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after they hit the floor.
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Um... Now, I didn't have my senses then.
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I... I was just, like,
pulling the trigger,
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and, uh,
I didn't have my senses.
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When you walked over
and kicked them
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to make sure they were dead,
did you have your senses then?
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Excuse me. By senses, do you mean
the sensibilities one grows up with
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- in privileged White suburbia?
- [banging gavel]
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Mr. Thomas, don't be
pulling your stunts here.
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Oh, I'm sorry, Your Honor.
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I didn't think that drawing
an accurate picture
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of this boy's reality would be
classified as a stunt.
250
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Step up here a second.
251
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[people murmuring]
252
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If you try doing to me
what you do to other judges,
253
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you'll experience regret.
254
00:13:48,786 --> 00:13:51,372
Stick to the case,
we'll get along fine.
255
00:13:51,997 --> 00:13:55,501
Resort to manipulative crap,
I'll embarrass you badly.
256
00:13:56,836 --> 00:13:58,504
Do we have an understanding?
257
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- Yes, Your Honor.
- Good. Get back.
258
00:14:04,677 --> 00:14:06,637
One more question, Mr. Robinson.
259
00:14:06,804 --> 00:14:09,515
Have you met the families
of the officers you killed?
260
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No.
261
00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:14,395
- Here they are, right here.
- [Bryant] Objection.
262
00:14:14,395 --> 00:14:16,355
Excuse me, Counsel.
263
00:14:16,564 --> 00:14:19,525
Do you mean to tell me that
these families are irrelevant?
264
00:14:19,817 --> 00:14:21,235
Meaningless?
265
00:14:21,527 --> 00:14:23,237
Let the record reflect
that I'm impressed
266
00:14:23,362 --> 00:14:25,739
with Mr. Littleton's
token performance.
267
00:14:25,823 --> 00:14:27,616
- [Larry] Objection.
- Let the record reflect
268
00:14:27,741 --> 00:14:30,077
that my Black pride is wounded.
And as soon as we're finished here,
269
00:14:30,077 --> 00:14:31,829
I'm gonna run right out
and rent Roots.
270
00:14:31,954 --> 00:14:35,165
- [banging gavel]
- Hey, the record will reflect
271
00:14:35,374 --> 00:14:38,335
that I won't put up with any more nonsense
from either of you.
272
00:14:38,586 --> 00:14:39,962
Try the case.
273
00:14:42,256 --> 00:14:44,925
The fear of the police
was certainly well founded.
274
00:14:45,009 --> 00:14:47,052
It couldn't be classified
as paranoia.
275
00:14:47,261 --> 00:14:50,097
He knew the nature
and consequences of his actions.
276
00:14:50,264 --> 00:14:51,765
This was not insanity.
277
00:14:52,099 --> 00:14:54,018
He thought he was going to die.
278
00:14:54,018 --> 00:14:56,604
[man 1 on TV] The defendant
could very well have been in shock.
279
00:14:57,146 --> 00:14:58,689
[woman on TV]
Justifiable self-defense.
280
00:14:58,814 --> 00:15:01,483
The young man was in
reasonable fear for his life.
281
00:15:02,109 --> 00:15:03,569
[man 2 on TV]
Murder, first degree.
282
00:15:03,569 --> 00:15:05,905
It was a deliberate act to kill
with clear intent.
283
00:15:06,196 --> 00:15:07,448
Absolutely.
284
00:15:07,573 --> 00:15:08,824
Absolutely not.
285
00:15:08,949 --> 00:15:10,534
- Thank you, doctor.
- Thank you, doctor.
286
00:15:10,659 --> 00:15:13,037
Thank you, doctor.
Now, may I say...
287
00:15:13,037 --> 00:15:14,663
- Nothing further.
- Nothing further.
288
00:15:14,747 --> 00:15:16,248
Nothing further.
289
00:15:21,420 --> 00:15:24,924
I won't ask you
to try to understand
290
00:15:26,050 --> 00:15:28,969
how a boy can grow up
to sell cocaine for a living.
291
00:15:29,637 --> 00:15:31,847
I won't ask you
to try to understand
292
00:15:32,097 --> 00:15:35,434
why he had a loaded Uzi
under his sofa.
293
00:15:36,060 --> 00:15:38,062
And I certainly, most certainly,
294
00:15:38,604 --> 00:15:40,272
will not try to ask you
295
00:15:40,814 --> 00:15:43,525
to understand
how he could take that weapon
296
00:15:43,901 --> 00:15:45,527
and shoot two policemen.
297
00:15:46,570 --> 00:15:50,449
All I will ask is that you admit
you cannot understand.
298
00:15:50,783 --> 00:15:53,243
If you didn't grow up
in an inner-city ghetto
299
00:15:53,535 --> 00:15:56,288
being beaten by your father
and shouted by your neighbors,
300
00:15:56,497 --> 00:15:59,124
watching your mother
murdered by people
301
00:15:59,208 --> 00:16:00,751
whose motto it is
"To Serve and Protect,"
302
00:16:00,876 --> 00:16:03,337
and admit, then,
that you can't understand.
303
00:16:04,004 --> 00:16:07,549
And don't go in that juror room saying,
"Well, gee, if it was me,
304
00:16:07,841 --> 00:16:10,344
I wouldn't do this. I wouldn't
do that." Well, it wasn't you.
305
00:16:10,844 --> 00:16:13,639
He didn't grow up with your
socio-economic background,
306
00:16:14,807 --> 00:16:17,559
with nurturing parents
in a nice little town like this.
307
00:16:18,060 --> 00:16:20,646
It was his father, his father
308
00:16:21,438 --> 00:16:24,608
was the addict that turned
him on the drugs.
309
00:16:25,150 --> 00:16:28,362
And then systematically
abused and molested him.
310
00:16:28,821 --> 00:16:34,243
Just... have the decency
to acknowledge that...
311
00:16:35,536 --> 00:16:40,082
you just don't have any idea
of what it's like to be him.
312
00:16:41,458 --> 00:16:43,293
You heard the doctors
tell you that
313
00:16:43,836 --> 00:16:45,796
because of his father's treatment,
314
00:16:45,921 --> 00:16:47,881
because he saw his mother
killed by the police,
315
00:16:48,048 --> 00:16:49,591
he has no psychological basis whatsoever
316
00:16:49,758 --> 00:16:52,177
to even understand
the concept of safety.
317
00:16:52,428 --> 00:16:55,389
The two institutions of protection
that we all grew up with,
318
00:16:55,514 --> 00:16:57,641
the family, the police,
319
00:16:57,891 --> 00:17:00,144
for David Robinson
are deadly forces.
320
00:17:00,352 --> 00:17:03,439
I could bring in
100 more experts,
321
00:17:04,356 --> 00:17:07,985
and you still wouldn't
have any idea ever
322
00:17:08,360 --> 00:17:11,196
of what it's like to be him.
323
00:17:18,829 --> 00:17:21,331
Grief for the slain officers,
of course.
324
00:17:23,542 --> 00:17:25,002
They were fine men.
325
00:17:26,003 --> 00:17:28,213
But if you're not grieving
for David Robinson,
326
00:17:29,256 --> 00:17:31,091
at the same time, right here,
327
00:17:31,175 --> 00:17:34,219
then accept that
as absolute proof
328
00:17:34,344 --> 00:17:38,599
that you just can't understand.
329
00:17:41,226 --> 00:17:42,603
[man clears throat]
330
00:17:48,776 --> 00:17:50,736
[people murmuring]
331
00:18:18,013 --> 00:18:19,932
[clicks remote buttons]
332
00:18:23,644 --> 00:18:24,770
[thud]
333
00:18:25,145 --> 00:18:26,605
- [cop 1 grunts] Freeze.
- [cop 2] Freeze.
334
00:18:26,730 --> 00:18:29,483
- [gunfire]
- [policemen groaning]
335
00:18:29,650 --> 00:18:34,071
[gunfire continues]
336
00:18:55,342 --> 00:18:57,386
Uh... Well, okay.
337
00:18:57,886 --> 00:19:02,224
I guess, maybe,
we should go around the room,
338
00:19:02,349 --> 00:19:04,059
hear what everyone has to say.
339
00:19:04,143 --> 00:19:06,061
Jimmy, let's take a quick vote first.
340
00:19:06,311 --> 00:19:08,438
I mean, I don't think
this is gonna take too long.
341
00:19:08,814 --> 00:19:12,109
Is there anybody in this room,
doesn't think this guy's guilty?
342
00:19:13,819 --> 00:19:15,362
Even still,
343
00:19:16,029 --> 00:19:17,781
we should talk before we vote.
344
00:19:17,906 --> 00:19:19,032
What's to say?
345
00:19:19,158 --> 00:19:20,284
The only reason
he stopped shooting
346
00:19:20,409 --> 00:19:22,161
is 'cause he ran out of bullets.
347
00:19:22,327 --> 00:19:23,662
He was scared.
348
00:19:24,663 --> 00:19:27,416
Even the psychologist
supported that. They...
349
00:19:27,541 --> 00:19:30,294
Oh, I believe the psychiatric
testimony was a wash.
350
00:19:30,502 --> 00:19:32,337
Half supported
the self-defense claim,
351
00:19:32,421 --> 00:19:34,256
the other half summarily
dismissed it.
352
00:19:34,256 --> 00:19:35,674
His father did abuse him.
353
00:19:35,674 --> 00:19:38,051
That was never refuted
by the prosecution.
354
00:19:38,218 --> 00:19:40,929
- So?
- So physical and sexual abuse
355
00:19:41,054 --> 00:19:44,224
can be very damaging emotionally.
356
00:19:44,474 --> 00:19:46,727
Look, I don't know
about the rest of you,
357
00:19:47,144 --> 00:19:50,647
but I'm getting a little sick
of these people killing people,
358
00:19:50,731 --> 00:19:52,858
committing murder,
and then crying
359
00:19:52,858 --> 00:19:55,444
- "I was an abused child."
- Exactly.
360
00:19:55,569 --> 00:19:58,530
Me, too. I don't care
how much abuse a person takes.
361
00:19:58,739 --> 00:20:01,116
It can never excuse
taking a human life.
362
00:20:01,241 --> 00:20:02,910
She is absolutely right.
363
00:20:02,910 --> 00:20:05,662
Well, I think we should take
a quick vote. See where we are.
364
00:20:07,456 --> 00:20:08,957
All those for guilty?
365
00:20:13,170 --> 00:20:14,588
Okay, not guilty?
366
00:20:15,714 --> 00:20:17,299
Oh, give me a break.
367
00:20:17,507 --> 00:20:19,509
- Cindy, you didn't vote.
- I feel nauseous.
368
00:20:19,676 --> 00:20:21,053
Conflict makes me queasy.
369
00:20:21,053 --> 00:20:23,555
Hey, lady,
didn't you see that tape?
370
00:20:24,139 --> 00:20:25,390
I saw it.
371
00:20:25,599 --> 00:20:30,270
Okay, we got, uh, ten guilty,
one not guilty.
372
00:20:31,605 --> 00:20:34,983
- And one, um, undecided.
- [Cindy vomiting]
373
00:20:35,150 --> 00:20:37,361
This is great. This is great.
374
00:20:37,861 --> 00:20:40,948
Now, look, we do have
to have this unanimous.
375
00:20:41,573 --> 00:20:43,325
Twelve to nothing.
376
00:20:45,994 --> 00:20:48,121
Mrs. Bayles, maybe
we should hear from you.
377
00:20:48,247 --> 00:20:50,457
I have a reasonable doubt.
378
00:20:50,457 --> 00:20:53,418
Maybe, maybe he was scared
for his life.
379
00:20:54,044 --> 00:20:56,088
I have a very reasonable doubt.
380
00:20:56,797 --> 00:21:00,509
Ma'am, ten of us just voted guilty,
doesn't that tell you something?
381
00:21:00,676 --> 00:21:03,595
Yes, that Mr. Thomas was right.
382
00:21:04,137 --> 00:21:05,889
You don't understand.
383
00:21:07,224 --> 00:21:09,893
Oh, brother.
All it takes is one.
384
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:11,979
Too bad then.
385
00:21:12,479 --> 00:21:13,855
You got one.
386
00:21:19,778 --> 00:21:22,447
[Lawson] Look, Mrs. Bayles,
it's almost 11 o'clock.
387
00:21:22,531 --> 00:21:24,616
For the last seven hours,
you just keep saying
388
00:21:24,700 --> 00:21:26,910
reasonable doubt,
reasonable doubt.
389
00:21:27,035 --> 00:21:28,787
I think he was scared.
390
00:21:29,037 --> 00:21:30,497
He's watching television,
391
00:21:30,497 --> 00:21:33,500
suddenly people come
busting in his door.
392
00:21:33,709 --> 00:21:35,419
Who wouldn't be afraid?
393
00:21:35,627 --> 00:21:36,795
But, ma'am,
394
00:21:37,462 --> 00:21:40,173
he fired after
he recognized them as police.
395
00:21:40,257 --> 00:21:42,009
He testified to that.
396
00:21:42,342 --> 00:21:45,304
Even so, he thought the police
would kill him.
397
00:21:45,512 --> 00:21:46,722
Oh, come on.
398
00:21:46,888 --> 00:21:48,724
[Crainpool]
Well, the psychiatrist said
399
00:21:48,724 --> 00:21:51,351
that his fear of the police
was legitimate.
400
00:21:51,518 --> 00:21:53,020
The psychiatrist
you're referring to
401
00:21:53,145 --> 00:21:55,522
were paid by the defense
to give that testimony.
402
00:21:55,689 --> 00:21:58,275
- Who said that? I never heard that.
- Well, figure it out.
403
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,902
Or is it against the rules
to use a little common sense.
404
00:22:01,028 --> 00:22:03,238
- Oh, come on.
- You don't have to be snide.
405
00:22:03,405 --> 00:22:05,282
The guy killed him. We saw it.
406
00:22:05,615 --> 00:22:07,951
For you to say "not guilty,"
you gotta be out of your mind.
407
00:22:08,035 --> 00:22:09,786
She's not out of her mind.
408
00:22:09,870 --> 00:22:12,414
God. I'm starting
to agree with her.
409
00:22:13,248 --> 00:22:14,416
Excuse me.
410
00:22:14,666 --> 00:22:16,960
I definitely think he was wrong,
411
00:22:17,085 --> 00:22:19,713
but it's possible that
he was scared for his life.
412
00:22:20,005 --> 00:22:21,882
I mean, the police killed his mother.
413
00:22:21,882 --> 00:22:24,134
How can he not be scared
when you think about it?
414
00:22:24,134 --> 00:22:26,053
See, this, this is a problem.
415
00:22:26,303 --> 00:22:28,930
These two women, they are what's wrong
with the whole system.
416
00:22:29,181 --> 00:22:32,559
The reason that those
Menendez whackos weren't convicted
417
00:22:32,684 --> 00:22:34,519
is because we had too
many housewife jurors
418
00:22:34,603 --> 00:22:36,188
who spend their whole
day watching Oprah
419
00:22:36,188 --> 00:22:37,981
- and Sarah Jessy Raul...
- What's he saying?
420
00:22:38,106 --> 00:22:40,942
...and buying into that
psychobabble, cockamamie crap.
421
00:22:41,485 --> 00:22:43,570
That is not an appropriate
thing to say.
422
00:22:43,570 --> 00:22:46,239
Well, I'm sorry, and I'm sure
you're gonna need therapy
423
00:22:46,323 --> 00:22:47,324
now that I've said it.
424
00:22:47,324 --> 00:22:49,493
But the fact is,
people everywhere
425
00:22:49,493 --> 00:22:51,119
are into
this victimization thing.
426
00:22:51,244 --> 00:22:52,412
Look, everybody's a victim.
427
00:22:52,496 --> 00:22:54,247
Everybody's got
psychological scars
428
00:22:54,331 --> 00:22:55,791
that made them do what they did.
429
00:22:55,791 --> 00:22:57,667
Shouldn't we let somebody
else talk now?
430
00:22:57,793 --> 00:22:59,211
I'm not finished!
431
00:22:59,503 --> 00:23:01,505
My father used to beat the hell out of me.
432
00:23:01,671 --> 00:23:04,591
Lots of people have
traumatic stuff in their past.
433
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,594
You know what the scientific
term for that is?
434
00:23:08,136 --> 00:23:10,722
- Life. Life is tough.
- [gasps]
435
00:23:11,390 --> 00:23:13,141
Look, I'm sorry this kid
got molested.
436
00:23:13,266 --> 00:23:14,726
I'm sorry his mother got killed.
437
00:23:14,810 --> 00:23:17,270
But that doesn't give him
the right to pick up an Uzi
438
00:23:17,354 --> 00:23:20,857
and pump 100 bullets
into two innocent cops.
439
00:23:21,024 --> 00:23:24,319
Even so, according
to the Judge's instructions,
440
00:23:24,444 --> 00:23:27,489
if he was afraid for his life,
it was self-defense.
441
00:23:27,489 --> 00:23:30,700
If the fear is reasonable.
These were policemen.
442
00:23:31,368 --> 00:23:32,536
So?
443
00:23:33,370 --> 00:23:35,997
Uh... So, of course,
police are gonna have guns.
444
00:23:36,081 --> 00:23:37,624
It's their job.
445
00:23:38,041 --> 00:23:39,501
It's not reasonable to think
446
00:23:39,501 --> 00:23:41,670
because they have a gun,
they're gonna shoot.
447
00:23:43,964 --> 00:23:46,007
[Kramer] Forgive me, um,
but it was my understanding
448
00:23:46,091 --> 00:23:49,594
that policemen, uh, occasionally
do shoot innocent people.
449
00:23:50,971 --> 00:23:53,515
As for the defendant's understanding,
how could he not be fearful?
450
00:23:53,515 --> 00:23:56,601
As Mrs. Crainpool
correctly points out,
451
00:23:56,685 --> 00:23:59,062
his own mother was murdered
in his home by police.
452
00:24:01,356 --> 00:24:03,817
Um, so what are you saying?
453
00:24:03,817 --> 00:24:06,069
That because they were police,
454
00:24:06,653 --> 00:24:09,281
he had more reason to be afraid?
455
00:24:09,573 --> 00:24:11,366
I'm saying
'cause they were police,
456
00:24:11,450 --> 00:24:13,410
he had no less reason
to be afraid.
457
00:24:14,661 --> 00:24:15,996
Mr. Kramer,
458
00:24:17,539 --> 00:24:20,750
to me your logic
is preposterous.
459
00:24:21,126 --> 00:24:22,878
I'm sure it would be to you.
460
00:24:23,295 --> 00:24:24,713
You're a sheriff.
461
00:24:25,255 --> 00:24:27,048
But I'll tell you this,
I'm a law-abiding citizen
462
00:24:27,132 --> 00:24:29,217
who's never had a run-in
with law enforcement.
463
00:24:29,342 --> 00:24:31,553
But as soon as I see a cruiser
in my rear-view mirror,
464
00:24:31,678 --> 00:24:33,680
the first sensation I feel
is one of fear.
465
00:24:34,389 --> 00:24:37,017
I can imagine what goes through
David Robinson.
466
00:24:37,392 --> 00:24:40,103
And so, that entitles him
to blast anyone in a uniform
467
00:24:40,187 --> 00:24:42,564
- just because he...
- It entitles him to be profoundly afraid
468
00:24:42,564 --> 00:24:44,983
of any uniform bashing down
his front door.
469
00:24:46,818 --> 00:24:48,487
What line of work are you in?
470
00:24:48,945 --> 00:24:50,447
I'm a schoolteacher.
471
00:24:51,573 --> 00:24:52,741
Ah ha.
472
00:24:53,617 --> 00:24:55,076
What does that mean, "ah ha"?
473
00:24:55,243 --> 00:24:57,078
You talk like a schoolteacher.
474
00:24:57,496 --> 00:24:58,872
What do you do?
475
00:25:00,832 --> 00:25:03,835
I deliver mail for
the United States Postal Service.
476
00:25:03,919 --> 00:25:05,795
[laughs] I see.
477
00:25:05,879 --> 00:25:08,673
Mr. Lawson, I certainly hope
that you get a more sympathetic jury
478
00:25:08,757 --> 00:25:11,468
after you open fire one day in
a... in a fast-food restaurant.
479
00:25:11,468 --> 00:25:13,345
- You think it's funny, huh?
- [Jimmy] Nevermind.
480
00:25:13,345 --> 00:25:15,180
- That's enough.
- You got something to say to me.
481
00:25:15,180 --> 00:25:17,224
- Come on, say it!
- [Moriarity] No, no, no, this is not the
482
00:25:17,224 --> 00:25:18,892
least bit constructive.
483
00:25:18,892 --> 00:25:20,602
Now, what I would like to do
484
00:25:20,936 --> 00:25:24,189
is to isolate the two dividing points.
485
00:25:24,189 --> 00:25:25,690
Well, you're not the foreman.
486
00:25:25,982 --> 00:25:28,068
Uh... [laughs] I realize
that, Mrs. Crainpool,
487
00:25:28,068 --> 00:25:29,945
but management is a strength.
488
00:25:29,945 --> 00:25:33,156
Yes, we all know that you're a big CEO
of a big paper company,
489
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,701
but, uh, in this room,
we're all the same.
490
00:25:36,952 --> 00:25:38,578
You're no more important
than any of us.
491
00:25:38,703 --> 00:25:41,248
Uh-huh. You, uh,
492
00:25:41,623 --> 00:25:43,708
you wouldn't be using this room
493
00:25:43,792 --> 00:25:46,419
as an equalizer,
would you, Mrs. Crainpool?
494
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,256
- I'm sorry.
- Perhaps this is your opportunity
495
00:25:49,256 --> 00:25:52,884
as a housewife to be
as significant as a CEO,
496
00:25:53,093 --> 00:25:56,096
and maybe your 15 minutes
of influence has more relevance to you
497
00:25:56,096 --> 00:25:58,098
- than... than the facts of this case.
- Right. Oh, yes.
498
00:25:58,306 --> 00:25:59,641
Now, you're getting
off the track.
499
00:25:59,641 --> 00:26:01,017
Actually, I'm not.
500
00:26:01,184 --> 00:26:02,978
There's a hugely selfish tone
501
00:26:02,978 --> 00:26:04,646
to this whole deliberation.
502
00:26:04,813 --> 00:26:08,275
Opinions being dominated
by a mailman, a schoolteacher,
503
00:26:08,275 --> 00:26:09,901
- and two housewives.
- Oh.
504
00:26:09,985 --> 00:26:12,112
- What does that mean?
- It means, Mr. Kramer,
505
00:26:12,112 --> 00:26:13,738
that for all
your good intentions,
506
00:26:13,863 --> 00:26:16,700
I think that there is
an unconscious infatuation
507
00:26:16,825 --> 00:26:18,493
with power
that's being demonstrated
508
00:26:18,577 --> 00:26:21,454
by some people
who don't normally enjoy it.
509
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,792
Not that pomposity could interfere
with your judgment.
510
00:26:28,420 --> 00:26:30,797
- I wanna see the gun.
- What?
511
00:26:31,089 --> 00:26:33,550
We're allowed to review
the evidence, right?
512
00:26:35,260 --> 00:26:36,720
I wanna see the gun.
513
00:26:39,222 --> 00:26:42,100
- [clink]
- It really is a machine of death.
514
00:26:42,100 --> 00:26:43,602
'Course it is.
515
00:26:43,810 --> 00:26:45,729
Let's let Mr. Kramer feel it.
516
00:26:45,895 --> 00:26:48,732
Come on. Come here.
Come on. Take it.
517
00:26:49,608 --> 00:26:51,943
It feels different than
a geography map, doesn't it?
518
00:26:52,027 --> 00:26:55,322
That's what that kid used
to extinguish two human beings.
519
00:26:55,697 --> 00:26:58,074
So? What, uh, we're
supposed to equate the...
520
00:26:58,199 --> 00:26:59,659
the ferocity of the weapon
521
00:26:59,743 --> 00:27:01,870
with the monstrosity of the boy?
522
00:27:02,412 --> 00:27:04,664
Isn't this game
a little advanced for mailman?
523
00:27:04,956 --> 00:27:06,541
[Jimmy] You know something,
Mr. Kramer?
524
00:27:06,708 --> 00:27:09,252
I'm getting a little
annoyed at your attitude.
525
00:27:09,628 --> 00:27:12,422
You want to sympathize
with the defendant. Fine.
526
00:27:12,547 --> 00:27:14,049
But what about those
kids who were killed?
527
00:27:14,049 --> 00:27:16,343
They were in their 20s,
those policemen.
528
00:27:17,052 --> 00:27:18,303
With families.
529
00:27:19,012 --> 00:27:21,765
Funny your compassion
doesn't extend to them.
530
00:27:22,265 --> 00:27:24,809
I sympathize with them
and their family, Sheriff.
531
00:27:25,518 --> 00:27:28,605
But I'm not vested with their lives
right now, only David Robinson's.
532
00:27:28,855 --> 00:27:31,608
I have to recognize that he may
have had a legitimate fear for his life
533
00:27:31,608 --> 00:27:33,234
when he pulled the trigger.
534
00:27:33,693 --> 00:27:37,155
Why can't we consider murder two
or... or manslaughter?
535
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:38,907
The charge was murder one.
536
00:27:40,700 --> 00:27:42,786
There are no other options
to consider.
537
00:27:42,786 --> 00:27:45,121
But that is just not fair.
538
00:27:45,538 --> 00:27:47,624
I mean, it seems like to me,
539
00:27:48,291 --> 00:27:50,502
it was heat of passion,
the way it went down.
540
00:27:51,628 --> 00:27:53,004
Why do you say that?
541
00:27:54,297 --> 00:27:55,674
Well...
542
00:27:56,966 --> 00:27:58,718
it wasn't premeditated.
543
00:27:58,802 --> 00:28:00,470
I mean, this guy's just
watching television,
544
00:28:00,470 --> 00:28:01,721
and then bam,
545
00:28:01,805 --> 00:28:03,306
his door goes down.
546
00:28:03,932 --> 00:28:06,309
That seems like heat of passion
to me, isn't it?
547
00:28:06,601 --> 00:28:09,562
Heat of passion, uh,
suggests anger or rage.
548
00:28:09,646 --> 00:28:11,648
Is... Is that what you think
he was feeling? Rage?
549
00:28:11,773 --> 00:28:14,526
- No, not rage...
- Then, then what?
550
00:28:18,571 --> 00:28:19,572
Fear?
551
00:28:21,658 --> 00:28:22,659
Yeah.
552
00:28:24,577 --> 00:28:25,662
Fear.
553
00:28:30,750 --> 00:28:33,253
- I'm changing my vote.
- [indistinct chatter]
554
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,797
Hold it. Just a second.
555
00:28:37,048 --> 00:28:39,592
Consider what
you're suggesting here.
556
00:28:39,676 --> 00:28:41,344
The police did nothing wrong.
557
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,388
Pursuant to a valid warrant,
558
00:28:43,388 --> 00:28:46,141
they entered the premises
of a convicted drug dealer
559
00:28:46,141 --> 00:28:49,686
whereupon they were promptly
shot dead by that drug dealer.
560
00:28:49,686 --> 00:28:53,773
Now, do you really, really mean
to say this kid was justified?
561
00:28:54,023 --> 00:28:57,360
- Well, I'm... I'm...
- He didn't know they were police.
562
00:28:57,652 --> 00:28:59,362
I mean, maybe they don't have
the right to come in and
563
00:28:59,446 --> 00:29:01,281
bash down his door unannounced.
564
00:29:01,406 --> 00:29:03,742
Yes, they did have the right.
They had a no-knock warrant.
565
00:29:03,742 --> 00:29:06,578
They had, uh, every right to do that.
Their actions were valid.
566
00:29:06,828 --> 00:29:09,748
The defendant didn't know
anything about warrants.
567
00:29:09,748 --> 00:29:12,375
All he knew was that somebody
was crashing through his door.
568
00:29:12,459 --> 00:29:14,961
You're rewarding him
for being a drug dealer.
569
00:29:14,961 --> 00:29:17,797
- Don't talk to me like that.
- Don't you see what you're doing?
570
00:29:17,964 --> 00:29:20,967
Because he sold drugs
and cheated people,
571
00:29:20,967 --> 00:29:22,719
he put himself
in a high-risk position,
572
00:29:22,719 --> 00:29:24,846
and because he was
in a high-risk position,
573
00:29:24,971 --> 00:29:27,140
you are licensing him
to become afraid
574
00:29:27,140 --> 00:29:29,267
and therefore shoot policemen.
It's ludicrous.
575
00:29:29,267 --> 00:29:31,644
I go back
to the Judge's instruction.
576
00:29:32,103 --> 00:29:36,191
If he was afraid,
it's self-defense. Period.
577
00:29:36,191 --> 00:29:38,234
No. Reasonably afraid
is what he said.
578
00:29:38,359 --> 00:29:39,694
- Reasonably.
- [all clamoring]
579
00:29:39,778 --> 00:29:42,489
- ...shot at...
- Everybody quiet.
580
00:29:42,614 --> 00:29:45,784
- You're not the foreman.
- Shut up!
581
00:29:50,580 --> 00:29:51,873
We're deadlocked.
582
00:29:54,584 --> 00:29:56,085
How deadlocked?
583
00:29:56,169 --> 00:29:57,504
Six to six.
584
00:29:57,962 --> 00:30:00,548
[smacks lips]
It seems rather hopeless.
585
00:30:00,632 --> 00:30:03,092
But you've only been
deliberating for two days.
586
00:30:03,259 --> 00:30:05,261
[sighs]
587
00:30:05,345 --> 00:30:07,180
Nobody will budge, Your Honor.
588
00:30:19,776 --> 00:30:21,444
The fact that you're
coming back in here
589
00:30:21,528 --> 00:30:23,196
waving a white flag so fast
590
00:30:24,113 --> 00:30:25,365
is an indication to me
591
00:30:25,365 --> 00:30:28,117
that you don't take your
responsibility seriously enough.
592
00:30:31,246 --> 00:30:32,831
Well, understand this.
593
00:30:34,123 --> 00:30:36,835
I'm not declaring
this a mistrial.
594
00:30:37,252 --> 00:30:40,797
You'll spend ten hours a day
for two weeks straight
595
00:30:41,256 --> 00:30:45,927
before I'll even entertain
the notion of a hung jury.
596
00:30:46,678 --> 00:30:49,931
And if I get the slightest
sign that anybody
597
00:30:50,765 --> 00:30:52,517
is not concentrating
back in that room,
598
00:30:52,517 --> 00:30:54,227
I'll hold you in contempt.
599
00:30:55,687 --> 00:30:59,232
You're also sequestered
as of right now.
600
00:31:00,149 --> 00:31:01,985
Forget about seeing
your families.
601
00:31:03,444 --> 00:31:05,071
You think this is a joke.
602
00:31:05,738 --> 00:31:07,198
We had the trial.
603
00:31:07,490 --> 00:31:09,200
We gave you the evidence.
604
00:31:09,492 --> 00:31:11,619
Everybody did his job.
605
00:31:12,787 --> 00:31:15,623
You get back in that room
and do yours.
606
00:31:21,296 --> 00:31:22,630
Get out.
607
00:31:26,009 --> 00:31:27,093
[door slams shut]
608
00:31:30,889 --> 00:31:32,223
- [grunts] Freeze.
- Freeze.
609
00:31:32,348 --> 00:31:33,933
- [gunfire]
- [rewinding tape]
610
00:31:34,017 --> 00:31:35,393
- [grunts] Freeze.
- Freeze.
611
00:31:35,393 --> 00:31:37,228
- [gunfire]
- [rewinding tape]
612
00:31:37,353 --> 00:31:38,521
- [grunts] Freeze.
- Freeze.
613
00:31:38,605 --> 00:31:39,814
Jimmy, you have
to keep running that
614
00:31:39,898 --> 00:31:41,608
back and forth like that?
615
00:31:41,858 --> 00:31:43,192
- [squeaking]
- Yeah, I do.
616
00:31:43,318 --> 00:31:46,905
Look, right there. See?
617
00:31:47,405 --> 00:31:50,408
He picks up the Uzi
before the door comes down.
618
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,077
Before he knows it's the police.
619
00:31:53,161 --> 00:31:55,330
We've covered that. He didn't
know at first who it was.
620
00:31:55,538 --> 00:31:57,874
But he knew it was the police
before he shot.
621
00:31:58,041 --> 00:32:00,668
Can't you admit that or are you
just too damn stubborn?
622
00:32:00,752 --> 00:32:03,379
You know, you are not
a helpful person.
623
00:32:03,463 --> 00:32:06,507
Every time you speak,
you're putting somebody down.
624
00:32:06,758 --> 00:32:08,217
I'll keep that in mind.
625
00:32:08,301 --> 00:32:09,719
Go puke in the corner.
626
00:32:09,719 --> 00:32:11,179
- Hey.
- Hey.
627
00:32:11,179 --> 00:32:13,139
I'm really getting fed up
with you.
628
00:32:13,348 --> 00:32:15,016
Oh, you're fed up. I'm fed up.
629
00:32:15,141 --> 00:32:16,684
I'm sick of all of you.
630
00:32:16,768 --> 00:32:19,354
How can you sit there
and watch this tape
631
00:32:19,604 --> 00:32:21,272
and forgive what this kid did?
632
00:32:21,397 --> 00:32:24,150
- You don't know him.
- Who does know him, huh?
633
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,402
Did he put up
any character witnesses?
634
00:32:26,527 --> 00:32:29,864
Did we hear from anyone who
knew this son-of-a-bitch? No.
635
00:32:30,239 --> 00:32:34,327
We didn't get to listen
to one person who even met him.
636
00:32:34,327 --> 00:32:37,330
Besides paid experts
637
00:32:37,330 --> 00:32:39,332
nobody stood up
for this psychotic
638
00:32:39,332 --> 00:32:41,167
except for the fools
in this room.
639
00:32:41,376 --> 00:32:43,294
Mr. Wambaugh knew him.
And he chooses to represent...
640
00:32:43,503 --> 00:32:45,421
Wambaugh! Wambaugh
is your shyster.
641
00:32:45,546 --> 00:32:48,841
He'd represent anybody.
We all know how they are.
642
00:32:49,008 --> 00:32:50,176
Who?
643
00:32:52,178 --> 00:32:53,763
How "who" are?
644
00:32:54,931 --> 00:32:56,349
Lawyers.
645
00:32:58,434 --> 00:33:02,146
You feel the same way
about Blacks that you do about Jews?
646
00:33:02,230 --> 00:33:04,732
[Lawson] No, no, no,
this is not a Black thing.
647
00:33:04,941 --> 00:33:07,902
This is not about prejudice. No.
648
00:33:08,069 --> 00:33:10,822
These... These two cops
were killed by that kid.
649
00:33:10,822 --> 00:33:13,241
I'm doing my job
as a juror. Period.
650
00:33:13,449 --> 00:33:15,827
None of us
are doing our job here.
651
00:33:17,412 --> 00:33:18,830
Well, look at us.
652
00:33:19,831 --> 00:33:22,291
We're supposed to be impartial.
653
00:33:22,625 --> 00:33:24,460
We've become advocates.
654
00:33:26,087 --> 00:33:28,923
You, you're trying to beat him.
655
00:33:30,008 --> 00:33:31,384
And you,
656
00:33:31,718 --> 00:33:33,428
you're trying
to stick it to him.
657
00:33:36,389 --> 00:33:39,600
It's more about winning
and losing
658
00:33:40,518 --> 00:33:43,479
for us in this room
than it is for the attorneys.
659
00:33:44,355 --> 00:33:47,442
This is a stupid,
stupid process.
660
00:33:48,067 --> 00:33:52,113
What's going on in this room has nothing
to do with the pursuit of truth.
661
00:33:52,113 --> 00:33:54,991
The truth is on the tape.
It's on the tape.
662
00:33:54,991 --> 00:33:57,452
The truth is in that boy's head.
663
00:33:57,994 --> 00:34:00,204
Look, I know he's probably evil,
664
00:34:00,288 --> 00:34:03,791
but I still say he had to be afraid.
665
00:34:04,625 --> 00:34:06,127
Mrs. Bayles.
666
00:34:08,713 --> 00:34:12,925
[sighs] I've been a law officer
for a long, long time.
667
00:34:14,886 --> 00:34:18,806
People who are afraid cower,
they flee, they flinch.
668
00:34:18,890 --> 00:34:22,226
This man reacted
with extreme aggression.
669
00:34:22,602 --> 00:34:24,062
Exactly. Good point.
670
00:34:24,270 --> 00:34:27,231
May I ask you a question, sir?
Don't policemen get afraid?
671
00:34:27,482 --> 00:34:29,025
Of course they do.
672
00:34:29,233 --> 00:34:31,194
If you encountered somebody
who suddenly pulls a gun on you,
673
00:34:31,194 --> 00:34:32,820
don't you...
don't you open fire?
674
00:34:32,904 --> 00:34:34,197
That's different.
675
00:34:34,363 --> 00:34:36,491
If someone points a gun at you,
you shoot.
676
00:34:36,491 --> 00:34:37,909
- I have to.
- [Kramer] Why?
677
00:34:37,909 --> 00:34:39,368
If I don't, I'm dead.
678
00:34:39,619 --> 00:34:41,245
[Kramer] Do you think
that drug dealers know this?
679
00:34:41,370 --> 00:34:43,623
That you will shoot
if they point a gun at you?
680
00:34:46,751 --> 00:34:48,961
This man had an Uzi
pointed at the door.
681
00:34:49,378 --> 00:34:52,423
Suddenly, that door came
down and that Uzi was pointed at police.
682
00:34:52,632 --> 00:34:55,218
With an Uzi pointed
at two armed policemen,
683
00:34:55,218 --> 00:34:58,805
was it not reasonable for this man
to think that they would shoot?
684
00:35:03,101 --> 00:35:06,896
Listen, I'm keeping my mouth shut here,
and minding my own business.
685
00:35:06,896 --> 00:35:07,980
There's not a person in this room
686
00:35:08,064 --> 00:35:09,357
who doesn't appreciate
the enormity of that feat.
687
00:35:09,482 --> 00:35:11,567
- Okay, that's it. You've had it.
- Ed. Ed.
688
00:35:11,651 --> 00:35:13,861
- [woman] Oh.
- [man] This is ridiculous.
689
00:35:14,028 --> 00:35:15,655
Hold it. Come on.
690
00:35:15,780 --> 00:35:17,740
- Everybody take a breath.
- Jimmy, I'm okay.
691
00:35:19,158 --> 00:35:22,328
Let's... Let's consider
for a second
692
00:35:23,079 --> 00:35:25,289
what our role is in here.
693
00:35:26,332 --> 00:35:28,292
It's to serve society, right?
694
00:35:30,795 --> 00:35:32,630
Good. Great.
695
00:35:32,964 --> 00:35:35,758
Well, if we all agree
696
00:35:36,050 --> 00:35:39,178
that we should give society
the benefit of the doubt,
697
00:35:39,595 --> 00:35:42,098
how can we put this kid
back on the street?
698
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,142
Maybe it's not his fault
699
00:35:44,142 --> 00:35:46,727
for having the psychological
problems that he has.
700
00:35:46,894 --> 00:35:49,313
He nevertheless is a killer.
701
00:35:50,481 --> 00:35:54,861
Mrs. Bayles, I think you even admitted
the boy is probably evil.
702
00:35:54,861 --> 00:35:58,573
But I still think he could
have acted in self-defense.
703
00:35:58,739 --> 00:35:59,907
Okay.
704
00:36:00,241 --> 00:36:01,742
Even if he did.
705
00:36:01,909 --> 00:36:04,287
In fact, let's assume
that he did.
706
00:36:04,579 --> 00:36:07,331
Is society better off
by an acquittal?
707
00:36:08,291 --> 00:36:11,669
The man sells
cocaine and heroin,
708
00:36:12,253 --> 00:36:14,797
and is probably responsible
for killing kids.
709
00:36:15,423 --> 00:36:17,550
He has an arsenal of weapons
in his apartment,
710
00:36:17,550 --> 00:36:20,261
ready to shoot anybody who comes
in the door too quickly.
711
00:36:20,386 --> 00:36:22,096
If we set him free,
712
00:36:23,097 --> 00:36:24,390
we know,
713
00:36:25,224 --> 00:36:26,517
we know...
714
00:36:26,976 --> 00:36:28,561
he will kill again.
715
00:36:29,353 --> 00:36:31,731
Is there anybody here
who seriously doubts that?
716
00:36:35,610 --> 00:36:37,445
[juror clears throat]
717
00:36:39,739 --> 00:36:42,366
Well, when he does...
718
00:36:45,077 --> 00:36:46,495
how do we go on?
719
00:36:48,247 --> 00:36:50,416
How do we look our children
in the eye and say,
720
00:36:50,416 --> 00:36:52,919
"Yeah, we are ones
who put him back out there."
721
00:36:55,546 --> 00:36:59,800
How do we look into the eyes
of the families of his next victims?
722
00:37:02,845 --> 00:37:08,309
David Robinson is a hardened
drug-dealing criminal who kills,
723
00:37:09,143 --> 00:37:11,812
then kicks the body
to make sure it's dead.
724
00:37:13,189 --> 00:37:15,274
I didn't see remorse
on that tape.
725
00:37:16,484 --> 00:37:17,860
I didn't see shock.
726
00:37:19,153 --> 00:37:21,405
I saw a kid who killed easily,
727
00:37:22,531 --> 00:37:23,991
who could kill again.
728
00:37:26,369 --> 00:37:28,412
Is that what you saw, Mr. Kramer?
729
00:37:37,505 --> 00:37:38,756
Mrs. Crainpool?
730
00:37:42,927 --> 00:37:44,011
[sighs]
731
00:37:52,144 --> 00:37:54,563
If we're that forgiving
a community,
732
00:37:55,648 --> 00:37:56,774
God,
733
00:37:58,609 --> 00:38:01,112
David Robinson may want
to come here to live.
734
00:38:02,822 --> 00:38:04,448
Do we want that?
735
00:38:15,876 --> 00:38:17,920
Maybe we should take
another vote.
736
00:38:21,048 --> 00:38:25,303
[indistinct chatter]
737
00:38:35,688 --> 00:38:38,691
- I just need a second till they go away.
- Fine.
738
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,360
[laughs]
739
00:38:43,195 --> 00:38:44,488
What?
740
00:38:45,281 --> 00:38:48,159
I'm not supposed to prosecute this
because I'm Black, is that it?
741
00:38:48,284 --> 00:38:50,619
You can prosecute
whomever you want.
742
00:38:51,078 --> 00:38:54,415
A Black jury would convict him
in ten minutes.
743
00:38:55,583 --> 00:38:58,627
Well, then we should all be
grateful the system is White,
744
00:38:58,711 --> 00:39:02,048
because it is the White society that holds
our Black opportunity, isn't it?
745
00:39:02,381 --> 00:39:04,133
Don't have to tell you that.
746
00:39:06,969 --> 00:39:08,596
You pervert the system
747
00:39:09,180 --> 00:39:12,266
using every opportunity
to make this thing about race,
748
00:39:12,391 --> 00:39:14,310
every trick
to exploit the fact...
749
00:39:14,310 --> 00:39:16,395
White cops, Black suspect.
750
00:39:16,562 --> 00:39:18,397
It will be about race.
751
00:39:18,564 --> 00:39:20,399
That's not the issue this time.
752
00:39:20,566 --> 00:39:23,235
You pick your issues, Counsel,
and I'll pick mine.
753
00:39:23,778 --> 00:39:25,946
It is an adversary process.
754
00:39:26,489 --> 00:39:28,032
It's supposed to work.
755
00:39:34,163 --> 00:39:35,331
Guilty.
756
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,249
Guilty.
757
00:39:38,084 --> 00:39:39,293
Guilty.
758
00:39:40,294 --> 00:39:41,629
Guilty.
759
00:39:44,298 --> 00:39:45,466
Guilty.
760
00:39:47,009 --> 00:39:51,055
Please, I've got kids
playing on these streets.
761
00:39:52,431 --> 00:39:54,392
I still think he was afraid.
762
00:39:56,977 --> 00:39:59,897
But I also think he probably
would kill again.
763
00:40:02,274 --> 00:40:03,651
I'm changing my vote.
764
00:40:06,028 --> 00:40:07,363
Guilty.
765
00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:11,242
[Cindy] You're the only one,
Mrs. Crainpool.
766
00:40:12,952 --> 00:40:14,537
The only one.
767
00:40:17,081 --> 00:40:18,416
[sighs]
768
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,919
- Okay.
- All right.
769
00:40:22,044 --> 00:40:23,587
[indistinct chatter]
770
00:40:23,671 --> 00:40:25,714
[Jimmy] Hold it.
771
00:40:25,881 --> 00:40:27,258
I haven't voted yet.
772
00:40:32,346 --> 00:40:33,931
- Not guilty.
- [woman] What?
773
00:40:34,098 --> 00:40:35,474
What did you say?
774
00:40:35,558 --> 00:40:36,934
You heard me.
775
00:40:37,268 --> 00:40:38,477
Sheriff Brock?
776
00:40:39,270 --> 00:40:41,147
I don't think he's innocent.
777
00:40:41,981 --> 00:40:44,525
But if we're gonna
send a kid away for life,
778
00:40:45,109 --> 00:40:49,113
we have to do it because we are convinced
he's guilty.
779
00:40:49,363 --> 00:40:50,823
Oh, come on, Jimmy, we are.
780
00:40:50,823 --> 00:40:52,783
[stutters] Take a look
at the vote.
781
00:40:52,867 --> 00:40:57,621
No. You voted that way because
of Mr. Moriarity's speech.
782
00:40:58,914 --> 00:41:03,169
You voted to convict because you're afraid
he'll kill again,
783
00:41:03,335 --> 00:41:04,837
as am I.
784
00:41:07,006 --> 00:41:09,550
But we can only convict
for what he did,
785
00:41:09,675 --> 00:41:12,052
not because of what he might do.
786
00:41:12,136 --> 00:41:15,556
Not because of what we know
he will do.
787
00:41:19,101 --> 00:41:20,561
If we think...
788
00:41:22,354 --> 00:41:25,524
[smacks lips] ...he acted out
of self-defense, we have to acquit,
789
00:41:25,608 --> 00:41:27,776
even if we are positive
he'll kill again
790
00:41:27,902 --> 00:41:30,738
- when he gets out.
- Really?
791
00:41:30,988 --> 00:41:34,200
Come on, Jimmy. You don't believe this
is self-defense, not for a second.
792
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,788
The Uzi is in his hand
793
00:41:40,623 --> 00:41:42,833
when the two policemen
come through the door.
794
00:41:44,251 --> 00:41:47,922
Now, in a situation like this,
the police have to shoot. No discretion.
795
00:41:49,798 --> 00:41:52,426
A suspect has an automatic weapon
in his hand,
796
00:41:52,510 --> 00:41:54,261
you shoot, no question.
797
00:41:54,803 --> 00:41:58,682
If David Robinson is looking
at those officers and he's thinking,
798
00:41:59,808 --> 00:42:01,227
"I'm a dead man,"
799
00:42:02,186 --> 00:42:04,480
he's 100% right.
800
00:42:04,605 --> 00:42:06,482
If he didn't shoot, he'd be dead.
801
00:42:08,609 --> 00:42:10,986
So how can this not be
self-defense?
802
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:17,243
We can't. We can't just
turn this kid free.
803
00:42:17,910 --> 00:42:19,453
Well, maybe we don't.
804
00:42:22,581 --> 00:42:24,583
But Mr. Kramer is right.
805
00:42:24,833 --> 00:42:26,627
The kid had to be afraid.
806
00:42:28,879 --> 00:42:32,633
So the only question here is,
uh, do we lock him up just the same?
807
00:42:34,176 --> 00:42:36,345
Because Mr. Moriarity
is right, too.
808
00:42:36,929 --> 00:42:39,431
The kid will kill again.
809
00:42:50,025 --> 00:42:51,443
[chair creaking]
810
00:42:57,533 --> 00:43:00,494
- [woman] All right. All right. All right.
- [indistinct chatter]
811
00:43:15,384 --> 00:43:16,427
[door closes]
812
00:43:16,427 --> 00:43:18,971
[footsteps approaching]
813
00:43:34,612 --> 00:43:36,864
Will the defendant please rise?
814
00:43:42,578 --> 00:43:44,705
Mr. Foreman, has the jury
reached a verdict?
815
00:43:47,082 --> 00:43:48,751
We have, Your Honor.
816
00:43:49,376 --> 00:43:50,628
What say you?
817
00:43:53,756 --> 00:43:56,008
On the charge of murder
in the first degree,
818
00:43:56,008 --> 00:43:59,053
we the jury find the defendant
David Robinson...
819
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,307
- not guilty.
- [woman 1 gasps]
820
00:44:03,307 --> 00:44:05,059
- [woman 2] What?
- [people murmuring]
821
00:44:10,689 --> 00:44:14,068
Members of the jury,
thank you for your time.
822
00:44:14,568 --> 00:44:16,528
The defendant is free to go.
823
00:44:16,654 --> 00:44:18,072
This matter is adjourned.
824
00:44:18,072 --> 00:44:19,239
[bangs gavel]
825
00:44:19,323 --> 00:44:20,866
[indistinct chatter]
826
00:44:27,331 --> 00:44:30,125
[indistinct chatter]
827
00:44:58,862 --> 00:45:01,907
[theme music playing]
828
00:45:23,512 --> 00:45:25,097
[theme music ends]
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