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Close all windows and doors. 10 00:00:48,673 --> 00:00:51,760 This is only being held as a precautionary measure. 11 00:00:52,343 --> 00:00:55,972 Businesses have shut down as owners and workers left the area. 12 00:00:56,056 --> 00:00:58,641 Schools within five miles of the nuclear plant 13 00:00:58,725 --> 00:01:00,685 were closed indefinitely today. 14 00:01:01,978 --> 00:01:05,398 I remember it being very, very chaotic in the classroom. 15 00:01:06,149 --> 00:01:08,902 The teachers were convening in the hallway. 16 00:01:09,861 --> 00:01:13,448 As a six-year-old, you're just nosy, period. 17 00:01:13,531 --> 00:01:19,496 But you could see by the faces that it was definitely something alarming. 18 00:01:22,082 --> 00:01:25,126 I know my mother called the school several times, 19 00:01:25,210 --> 00:01:27,587 but there was no way to get through. 20 00:01:29,339 --> 00:01:32,675 I just remember them telling us to get back in our seats 21 00:01:32,759 --> 00:01:35,845 and trying to keep us calm, and keep us busy, 22 00:01:35,929 --> 00:01:39,015 that we would be bussed back home. 23 00:01:44,270 --> 00:01:45,939 Looking out the window, 24 00:01:46,022 --> 00:01:49,859 all you could see were cars lined up to get out. 25 00:01:52,904 --> 00:01:55,740 The horns were tremendous. 26 00:01:55,824 --> 00:01:59,160 It was something where you could just hold your ears. 27 00:02:07,585 --> 00:02:11,422 I did see people that were dressed in white suits 28 00:02:11,506 --> 00:02:13,842 walking up and down the road. 29 00:02:14,551 --> 00:02:15,552 I'm thinking, 30 00:02:15,635 --> 00:02:19,347 "Wow, this is kind of like Star Wars." You know, stormtroopers. 31 00:02:20,515 --> 00:02:24,811 But I didn't understand why they were there. 32 00:02:25,895 --> 00:02:27,522 "What is gonna happen?" 33 00:02:48,334 --> 00:02:51,174 Civil defense officials throughout the adjacent four counties 34 00:02:51,212 --> 00:02:54,883 have established evacuation centers for those wishing to leave. 35 00:02:54,966 --> 00:02:57,010 And residents within a ten-mile radius 36 00:02:57,093 --> 00:02:59,846 have been urged to stay indoors indefinitely. 37 00:02:59,929 --> 00:03:01,598 Close all windows and doors. 38 00:03:01,681 --> 00:03:04,100 Tune to your favorite radio or television station 39 00:03:04,184 --> 00:03:05,935 to await further instructions. 40 00:03:07,020 --> 00:03:09,230 Thornburgh emphasized more than once 41 00:03:09,314 --> 00:03:12,775 he nor anyone else has not yet ordered an evacuation, 42 00:03:13,359 --> 00:03:16,362 but he did admit there's always that possibility. 43 00:03:16,446 --> 00:03:19,824 We are simply asking everybody to be prepared to move, 44 00:03:19,908 --> 00:03:21,910 but do not move at this time. 45 00:03:21,993 --> 00:03:24,204 Nobody is in any danger at this time. 46 00:03:24,787 --> 00:03:26,789 The governor was very specific in saying, 47 00:03:26,873 --> 00:03:30,043 "This is precautionary and precautionary only." 48 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,839 But what it did cause was what we were trying to avoid... 49 00:03:35,632 --> 00:03:36,799 panic. 50 00:03:38,426 --> 00:03:40,011 Where are you going to? 51 00:03:40,094 --> 00:03:43,056 I'm going to my mother's. I have nowhere else to go at this point. 52 00:03:43,139 --> 00:03:45,934 I'm just gonna go, get out. I'm not coming back. 53 00:03:47,060 --> 00:03:49,562 Luckily, my husband was home that day. 54 00:03:49,646 --> 00:03:52,982 We had a preschool child and I said to him, 55 00:03:53,066 --> 00:03:55,526 "We seriously need to go." 56 00:03:55,610 --> 00:04:00,156 One of the pains that I had leaving was, "What do you take with you?" 57 00:04:01,950 --> 00:04:05,495 It was very important for me to have our children's birth certificates 58 00:04:05,578 --> 00:04:08,539 that if, God forbid, we were ever separated, 59 00:04:08,623 --> 00:04:10,792 I could prove they were my children. 60 00:04:10,875 --> 00:04:13,044 That is one of the things I thought about. 61 00:04:15,505 --> 00:04:17,966 And when we pulled out of that driveway, 62 00:04:18,049 --> 00:04:22,345 I looked back at all that I loved and wondered if I would ever come back. 63 00:04:23,096 --> 00:04:24,722 Very difficult. 64 00:04:28,601 --> 00:04:31,187 What did you think when you heard this latest news? 65 00:04:32,188 --> 00:04:33,273 Like runnin'. 66 00:04:33,815 --> 00:04:35,733 When my kiddos came home, 67 00:04:35,817 --> 00:04:37,652 I didn't wanna panic them. 68 00:04:37,735 --> 00:04:39,445 So, I said, 69 00:04:39,529 --> 00:04:43,574 "We're gonna go to Nana and Pop-pop's for a little mini vacation." 70 00:04:44,575 --> 00:04:47,662 My goal was to get our children away from this, 71 00:04:47,745 --> 00:04:49,747 whatever this monster was. 72 00:04:50,915 --> 00:04:54,919 Area residents aren't waiting for an official evacuation to be called. 73 00:04:55,003 --> 00:04:57,338 Nearly half the population has left. 74 00:04:57,422 --> 00:04:59,674 So many people left Middletown today, 75 00:04:59,757 --> 00:05:03,970 police officials have imposed a 9:00 p.m. to 7:00 a.m. curfew here 76 00:05:04,053 --> 00:05:06,264 to forestall the possibility of looting. 77 00:05:06,347 --> 00:05:07,587 It is now apparent 78 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,685 that the nuclear accident that occurred on Wednesday morning 79 00:05:10,768 --> 00:05:13,688 was a lot more complicated and a lot more serious 80 00:05:13,771 --> 00:05:16,190 than the public was first led to believe. 81 00:05:21,154 --> 00:05:25,658 As we left our home, I really had no understanding of what was happening, 82 00:05:26,617 --> 00:05:29,245 but I knew there was something wrong. 83 00:05:30,288 --> 00:05:34,167 And thinking, "Are we ever gonna be able to come back?" 84 00:05:34,250 --> 00:05:36,419 "Is my house still gonna be here?" 85 00:05:38,421 --> 00:05:43,176 I think about seeing the people's faces in their vehicles. 86 00:05:47,263 --> 00:05:49,223 People were scared. 87 00:05:53,102 --> 00:05:56,314 Officials disclosed today that radiation in the building's dome 88 00:05:56,397 --> 00:05:59,108 was measured at 30,000 rems an hour, 89 00:05:59,192 --> 00:06:02,779 Seventy-five times the lethal dose for a human being, 90 00:06:02,862 --> 00:06:07,325 and 3,000 times the level for a nuclear reactor in normal operation. 91 00:06:08,910 --> 00:06:12,205 The plume, which is the radioactive cloud 92 00:06:12,288 --> 00:06:14,040 that travels with the wind. 93 00:06:14,123 --> 00:06:16,250 It was heading in the north direction, 94 00:06:16,334 --> 00:06:18,711 exactly where we were evacuating. 95 00:06:19,420 --> 00:06:22,507 What you want to do is to try and keep this stuff off of you. 96 00:06:22,590 --> 00:06:26,052 If you would have to happen to get out and get some on you, 97 00:06:26,135 --> 00:06:29,138 the best way to do is get in, take your clothes off, 98 00:06:29,222 --> 00:06:30,306 wash your clothes... 99 00:06:30,390 --> 00:06:33,476 When we got to my in-laws, they had us all... 100 00:06:34,602 --> 00:06:39,482 um, remove our clothes, and take a shower and change our clothes. 101 00:06:40,066 --> 00:06:43,820 And I remember thinking at the time, "I felt like a leper." 102 00:06:44,362 --> 00:06:47,115 On this incredible third day of the accident, 103 00:06:47,198 --> 00:06:49,534 confusion, contradiction, and questions 104 00:06:49,617 --> 00:06:52,703 clouded the atmosphere like atomic particles. 105 00:06:52,787 --> 00:06:57,208 And as we watched Walter Cronkite on national news, 106 00:06:57,291 --> 00:06:59,752 I think most of us were shocked 107 00:06:59,836 --> 00:07:02,964 that something like this happened to our little town. 108 00:07:03,673 --> 00:07:06,801 But not everyone was leaving. Some said they would stay. 109 00:07:06,884 --> 00:07:09,429 We did not leave Middletown, didn't think about leaving. 110 00:07:09,512 --> 00:07:12,515 If I was a younger man with kids, I probably would have. 111 00:07:12,598 --> 00:07:16,102 People who had choices to leave the area were going to leave, 112 00:07:16,185 --> 00:07:18,771 but there were many people who did not have those options. 113 00:07:20,148 --> 00:07:21,691 There was a realization 114 00:07:21,774 --> 00:07:25,528 that the community truly never ever would be the same again. 115 00:07:25,611 --> 00:07:29,449 Current readings are no higher today than they were yesterday. 116 00:07:29,532 --> 00:07:31,826 We went to my grandmother's home, 117 00:07:31,909 --> 00:07:34,871 which was only ten miles away in Harrisburg. 118 00:07:36,539 --> 00:07:37,874 I was very inquisitive, 119 00:07:37,957 --> 00:07:43,504 so I was listening to the adult conversations and what was going on. 120 00:07:43,588 --> 00:07:46,188 The situation here has become more and more confusing 121 00:07:46,215 --> 00:07:49,385 each day since the initial release on Wednesday morning... 122 00:07:49,469 --> 00:07:52,322 Company officials said the radiation leaks had been stopped. 123 00:07:52,346 --> 00:07:55,975 Nuclear regulatory officials said the leaks were continuing. 124 00:07:56,058 --> 00:07:59,020 It was just overwhelming. 125 00:08:02,315 --> 00:08:04,066 Has the governor set up any... 126 00:08:04,150 --> 00:08:06,527 designating one person or set up any task force 127 00:08:06,611 --> 00:08:08,738 just to oversee all the various ramifications... 128 00:08:08,821 --> 00:08:12,575 I think he's starting to think along those lines of setting up a task force. 129 00:08:14,368 --> 00:08:16,454 The management of information 130 00:08:16,537 --> 00:08:20,791 turned out to be one of the great challenges of this crisis. 131 00:08:21,375 --> 00:08:25,588 There were a thousand rumors and conflicting sources of information. 132 00:08:25,671 --> 00:08:31,385 And we had to establish a credible source that people knew they could trust. 133 00:08:32,220 --> 00:08:35,640 So Governor Thornburgh called the president. 134 00:08:39,352 --> 00:08:40,728 At the time, 135 00:08:40,811 --> 00:08:44,190 I was the point person for the president on the accident. 136 00:08:44,273 --> 00:08:47,318 The governor asked President Carter for 137 00:08:47,401 --> 00:08:52,073 one person who will oversee managing this thing on the ground 138 00:08:52,156 --> 00:08:54,742 and will be the one person who speaks to the press. 139 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,372 The president got involved because it was a time 140 00:08:59,455 --> 00:09:04,168 when energy policy was a constant source of anxiety. 141 00:09:04,919 --> 00:09:08,464 And there certainly was a feeling that we needed nuclear power. 142 00:09:09,674 --> 00:09:13,427 But he was also a nuclear engineer by training. 143 00:09:13,511 --> 00:09:15,680 He'd been part of the nuclear navy. 144 00:09:15,763 --> 00:09:19,016 Mr. Carter is no stranger to nuclear plant accidents. 145 00:09:19,100 --> 00:09:21,811 He has described how in the early 1950s, 146 00:09:21,894 --> 00:09:24,230 as a Navy nuclear engineer trainee, 147 00:09:24,313 --> 00:09:26,023 he led a group of 22 men 148 00:09:26,107 --> 00:09:29,402 down into the core of a reactor at Chalk River, Canada, 149 00:09:29,485 --> 00:09:31,070 where a meltdown had occurred. 150 00:09:31,153 --> 00:09:34,073 The president says he spent one minute and 29 seconds there 151 00:09:34,156 --> 00:09:36,075 helping dismantle that reactor. 152 00:09:36,659 --> 00:09:41,414 And so he felt very comfortable about the integrity of the technology. 153 00:09:42,039 --> 00:09:44,875 The president has dispatched his personal representative, 154 00:09:44,959 --> 00:09:49,630 Mr. Harold Denton, Chief Operations Officer of the NRC 155 00:09:49,714 --> 00:09:52,383 to assist me and work with our experts 156 00:09:52,466 --> 00:09:55,970 to monitor the situation and keep the public fully informed. 157 00:09:56,846 --> 00:10:00,600 Harold Denton was considered within the NRC 158 00:10:00,683 --> 00:10:04,729 to be one of the more knowledgeable people on site. 159 00:10:04,812 --> 00:10:08,649 He was Jimmy Carter's personal representative on Three Mile Island 160 00:10:08,733 --> 00:10:11,861 to assess the situation there at the utility 161 00:10:11,944 --> 00:10:15,406 and provide him with feedback on what was truly happening. 162 00:10:16,032 --> 00:10:19,410 We are concerned about the status of the fuel in the core. 163 00:10:19,493 --> 00:10:22,288 There's also a bubble in the reactor vessel that means 164 00:10:22,371 --> 00:10:24,373 that any change in the hydraulics of the core 165 00:10:24,457 --> 00:10:26,042 have to be carefully monitored... 166 00:10:26,125 --> 00:10:27,835 Denton said to us, 167 00:10:27,918 --> 00:10:31,172 "There's a hydrogen bubble inside the reactor 168 00:10:31,881 --> 00:10:35,760 which, if left to its own devices, could explode." 169 00:10:36,844 --> 00:10:42,016 And for the first time from the beginning of this, 170 00:10:42,099 --> 00:10:44,310 I will admit that I got scared. 171 00:10:44,894 --> 00:10:48,356 Because the consequences of a hydrogen bubble, 172 00:10:48,439 --> 00:10:50,566 potentially, were disastrous. 173 00:10:51,150 --> 00:10:54,820 CBS Reports, Danger at Three Mile Island. 174 00:10:55,571 --> 00:10:59,408 The situation inside the nuclear reactor is stable for the moment, 175 00:10:59,492 --> 00:11:01,118 but fraught with danger. 176 00:11:01,202 --> 00:11:06,207 At the top of the reactor vessel, a bubble has formed radioactive gas. 177 00:11:06,290 --> 00:11:09,710 A new stage in the accident had opened up. 178 00:11:09,794 --> 00:11:12,213 A hydrogen gas bubble 179 00:11:12,296 --> 00:11:14,924 forming at the heart of a nuclear power plant 180 00:11:15,007 --> 00:11:17,510 with unknown consequences. 181 00:11:17,593 --> 00:11:19,679 Hydrogen explodes, and therefore, 182 00:11:19,762 --> 00:11:25,393 there was the possibility of an explosion there inside the reactor itself. 183 00:11:25,476 --> 00:11:28,187 This is what happened, by the way, at Chernobyl. 184 00:11:28,270 --> 00:11:33,734 Hydrogen gas explosion blew the entire roof of the reactor apart 185 00:11:33,818 --> 00:11:37,154 leading to radiation being released into the environment. 186 00:11:39,532 --> 00:11:41,867 That accident took place in 1986, 187 00:11:41,951 --> 00:11:45,871 and for centuries parts of that area around Chernobyl 188 00:11:45,955 --> 00:11:47,456 will be sealed off. 189 00:11:47,540 --> 00:11:50,584 The bubble that's in the reactor vessel is mainly hydrogen. 190 00:11:50,668 --> 00:11:53,254 And therefore, if there is a source of oxygen, 191 00:11:53,337 --> 00:11:56,298 and an ignition source, it could burn. 192 00:11:56,382 --> 00:11:58,968 When I heard about the hydrogen bubble, 193 00:11:59,051 --> 00:12:03,472 I realized there was such a chance that we were gonna lose everything. 194 00:12:04,181 --> 00:12:07,017 Everything that we ever worked for, any... 195 00:12:07,101 --> 00:12:09,437 Everything would be gone. 196 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,040 ...very current about the problem in Three Mile Island. 197 00:12:12,064 --> 00:12:13,065 How dangerous is it? 198 00:12:13,149 --> 00:12:15,109 Are we running the risk of a China Syndrome? 199 00:12:15,192 --> 00:12:18,154 Could there be a massive disaster? Is it remote or impossible? 200 00:12:18,237 --> 00:12:21,282 There's always been the possibility of a China Syndrome. 201 00:12:21,365 --> 00:12:23,451 This has been built into all calculations. 202 00:12:23,534 --> 00:12:27,830 The catastrophes we're talking about here in a massive meltdown 203 00:12:27,913 --> 00:12:31,834 are tens of thousands of deaths, hundreds of thousands of cancers, 204 00:12:31,917 --> 00:12:34,879 contamination of thousands of square miles of land. 205 00:12:35,504 --> 00:12:37,344 Dr. Lapp, what has been stated... 206 00:12:37,423 --> 00:12:39,133 I was extremely frightened 207 00:12:39,216 --> 00:12:42,762 because there was no place in Central Pennsylvania that was safe. 208 00:12:42,845 --> 00:12:47,391 The chances of us surviving even 40 miles away 209 00:12:47,475 --> 00:12:49,477 could have been put into jeopardy. 210 00:12:51,187 --> 00:12:53,397 Everybody was afraid of nuclear power 211 00:12:53,481 --> 00:12:57,735 by the time they heard about the hydrogen bubble blowing up the reactor. 212 00:12:58,569 --> 00:13:00,321 The Nuclear Regulatory Commission, 213 00:13:00,404 --> 00:13:05,659 the utility just blew it on their communications. 214 00:13:05,743 --> 00:13:08,287 Not only between each other, but with the people. 215 00:13:08,871 --> 00:13:11,582 They let the people live in fear 216 00:13:11,665 --> 00:13:13,918 while they tried to decide what to do. 217 00:13:14,877 --> 00:13:18,714 So we are faced with the remote, but very real possibility 218 00:13:18,798 --> 00:13:22,927 of a nuclear meltdown at the Three Mile Island atomic power plant. 219 00:13:31,101 --> 00:13:34,355 I've got the staff continuing to look at the question 220 00:13:34,438 --> 00:13:38,192 of how much time to detonation and whether or not the temperatures... 221 00:13:38,275 --> 00:13:42,321 That Saturday was a very, very unnerving day. 222 00:13:42,404 --> 00:13:43,989 Scientists concerned 223 00:13:44,073 --> 00:13:46,700 that the 600-degree temperature in the reactor fuel 224 00:13:46,784 --> 00:13:49,745 was hot enough to detonate the gaseous bubble. 225 00:13:49,829 --> 00:13:52,790 We had a problem which was almost pure mathematics, 226 00:13:52,873 --> 00:13:58,128 and we had to wait while the experts were trying to figure out 227 00:13:58,212 --> 00:14:01,549 whether we had a seriously dangerous bubble. 228 00:14:02,550 --> 00:14:04,969 The 1,000 nuclear scientists and technicians 229 00:14:05,052 --> 00:14:07,596 who are gathered here in an effort to save the reactor 230 00:14:07,680 --> 00:14:09,682 still have a number of problems to resolve. 231 00:14:11,058 --> 00:14:13,519 Engineers were being called in from around the world. 232 00:14:13,602 --> 00:14:16,522 "How dangerous is this? How do you defuse it?" 233 00:14:16,605 --> 00:14:19,692 The future of nuclear energy was in the balance. 234 00:14:20,526 --> 00:14:23,237 One government study estimated in such an event 235 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,866 forty-five thousand would be killed, a quarter of a million injured. 236 00:14:26,949 --> 00:14:30,995 It is that possibility that has authorities considering evacuation. 237 00:14:31,579 --> 00:14:33,205 And at the highest levels, 238 00:14:33,289 --> 00:14:37,751 there were discussions about evacuating millions of people. 239 00:14:37,835 --> 00:14:40,963 We were living the worst-case scenario. 240 00:14:41,547 --> 00:14:43,549 Officials at the company and government 241 00:14:43,632 --> 00:14:46,594 say the situation is stable, but disagree on vital facts. 242 00:14:46,677 --> 00:14:49,805 Experts are unable to draw meaningful conclusions 243 00:14:49,889 --> 00:14:51,974 about the size of the hydrogen bubble. 244 00:14:52,641 --> 00:14:57,104 I knew there was differences of opinion in part of the NRC 245 00:14:57,187 --> 00:14:59,481 of what in Heaven's name is going on. 246 00:15:00,524 --> 00:15:03,193 "It could explode," and, "Should people move?" 247 00:15:03,277 --> 00:15:06,405 I got calls from relatives that lived in Philadelphia, 248 00:15:06,488 --> 00:15:09,825 "We're downwind, should we go to our cousin's in New York?" 249 00:15:09,909 --> 00:15:12,328 I said, "Slow down, slow down." You know? 250 00:15:13,037 --> 00:15:15,289 There is no way for nuclear scientists 251 00:15:15,372 --> 00:15:19,209 to eliminate the dangerous hydrogen gas bubble inside the reactor 252 00:15:19,293 --> 00:15:22,463 without running at least some risk of a core meltdown. 253 00:15:23,839 --> 00:15:26,342 We were doing analysis, working on the issue, 254 00:15:26,425 --> 00:15:29,720 trying to put it into relative risk terms. 255 00:15:29,803 --> 00:15:33,182 But it becomes a hugely emotional risk, 256 00:15:33,265 --> 00:15:37,645 and things can just go crazy, especially in the public media. 257 00:15:37,728 --> 00:15:39,271 Under present conditions, 258 00:15:39,355 --> 00:15:41,982 oxygen may slowly be entering the hydrogen bubble. 259 00:15:42,066 --> 00:15:45,819 The more oxygen, the more danger of a hydrogen explosion in the reactor. 260 00:15:45,903 --> 00:15:49,698 Two dangers persist. One from that trapped gas bubble. 261 00:15:49,782 --> 00:15:53,535 The other from the build-up of radioactive material in the containment room. 262 00:15:54,244 --> 00:15:56,705 Saturday night, in an AP bulletin 263 00:15:56,789 --> 00:15:59,375 that ran right across the bottoms of the TV screens, 264 00:15:59,458 --> 00:16:01,919 "Hydrogen bubble in reactor 265 00:16:02,002 --> 00:16:04,713 is showing signs of becoming potentially explosive." 266 00:16:04,797 --> 00:16:07,216 ...showing signs of becoming potentially explosive. 267 00:16:07,299 --> 00:16:09,677 The chairman of the NRC said, 268 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,097 "It may be prudent to evacuate people from the area." 269 00:16:13,180 --> 00:16:18,185 At that moment, 25 reporters burst through the doors of my office. 270 00:16:18,268 --> 00:16:21,313 "Should we leave?" They were shouting at me. 271 00:16:21,397 --> 00:16:24,316 One of them was even crying. 272 00:16:24,984 --> 00:16:26,944 Palpable panic set in. 273 00:16:27,027 --> 00:16:30,823 As anxiety builds, many people have relocated to shelters, 274 00:16:30,906 --> 00:16:34,410 including this sports arena, 11 miles away from the plant. 275 00:16:40,082 --> 00:16:43,293 I couldn't make sense of it but ask, "What's going on?" 276 00:16:43,377 --> 00:16:45,170 "Are we gonna die?" 277 00:16:45,254 --> 00:16:50,009 It was like living on the edge, like just holding on, white-knuckled. 278 00:16:50,092 --> 00:16:54,513 What happens to this plant? Does it blow up like nuclear bombs? 279 00:16:56,098 --> 00:16:58,767 What does a meltdown really mean? 280 00:17:00,436 --> 00:17:04,314 The fear became greater because it was the fear of the unknown. 281 00:17:04,398 --> 00:17:05,899 It may not show up now, 282 00:17:05,983 --> 00:17:10,529 but what's 25 years from now if there was an exposure? 283 00:17:10,612 --> 00:17:12,197 I had a wife who was pregnant. 284 00:17:12,281 --> 00:17:17,119 And I went to the evacuation center with the governor and my family. 285 00:17:17,202 --> 00:17:21,081 We wanted to stop rumors that were upsetting people, 286 00:17:21,165 --> 00:17:24,710 that only generated greater fear. 287 00:17:24,793 --> 00:17:27,171 Can you explain what dangers there are left? 288 00:17:27,254 --> 00:17:28,422 How dangerous are things? 289 00:17:28,505 --> 00:17:32,092 Only if the efforts that are now underway prove unsuccessful 290 00:17:32,176 --> 00:17:34,219 will we have to turn to another option. 291 00:17:35,888 --> 00:17:38,640 And with the growing concern about the hydrogen bubble, 292 00:17:38,724 --> 00:17:41,226 Governor Thornburgh said to the president, 293 00:17:41,310 --> 00:17:45,773 "I would like the Federal Government's recommendation," 294 00:17:45,856 --> 00:17:47,107 as to whether or not 295 00:17:47,191 --> 00:17:50,861 he should go beyond the five-mile precautionary evacuation 296 00:17:50,944 --> 00:17:55,115 and order a broad scale 360-degree evacuation. 297 00:17:56,700 --> 00:18:01,080 But the concern was the lasting impact on the nuclear industry. 298 00:18:02,122 --> 00:18:04,625 This is a very tough call to make 299 00:18:04,708 --> 00:18:08,545 when you don't have really clear knowledge to go on. 300 00:18:09,338 --> 00:18:14,259 So the president decided late on Saturday, 301 00:18:14,343 --> 00:18:17,763 the most important thing he could do would be to go visit the reactor 302 00:18:17,846 --> 00:18:19,640 as a way to quiet public fears. 303 00:18:32,778 --> 00:18:34,923 We are going to pray to God to take care of us 304 00:18:34,947 --> 00:18:37,741 in the midst of all this confusion 305 00:18:37,825 --> 00:18:40,869 and uncertainty about these times. 306 00:18:41,787 --> 00:18:42,913 We trust the Lord 307 00:18:42,996 --> 00:18:46,500 that nothing further is going to happen other than what has. 308 00:18:49,211 --> 00:18:51,296 When President Carter got there, 309 00:18:51,380 --> 00:18:55,217 everything was still pretty much in a state of chaos. 310 00:18:55,717 --> 00:18:58,929 There was a potential that the hydrogen bubble was gonna blow up. 311 00:18:59,763 --> 00:19:03,058 But with the president showing up at Three Mile Island, 312 00:19:03,142 --> 00:19:05,936 that reinforced to the nuclear industry that, 313 00:19:06,019 --> 00:19:08,772 "Hey, you know, guys, I'm kinda on your side here," 314 00:19:08,856 --> 00:19:11,316 and showing everybody, "Nuclear is not bad." 315 00:19:13,735 --> 00:19:17,990 And the main job of President Carter coming to Three Mile Island 316 00:19:18,073 --> 00:19:21,660 was to reassure the American public they had nothing to fear. 317 00:19:22,327 --> 00:19:24,830 My primary concern in coming here this afternoon 318 00:19:24,913 --> 00:19:29,042 has been to learn as much as I possibly can as president 319 00:19:29,626 --> 00:19:33,338 about the problems at the Three Mile Island nuclear power plant. 320 00:19:34,256 --> 00:19:36,800 And to assure the people of this region 321 00:19:37,634 --> 00:19:40,470 that everything possible is being done 322 00:19:40,554 --> 00:19:43,891 and will be done to cope with these problems. 323 00:19:44,683 --> 00:19:48,020 President Carter was making an effort to explain, 324 00:19:48,103 --> 00:19:50,689 "We know what we're doing. We're gonna take care of you." 325 00:19:50,772 --> 00:19:52,524 "You're in no danger." 326 00:19:53,525 --> 00:19:55,652 After the president left the island, 327 00:19:55,736 --> 00:19:59,364 Harold Denton's staff went through all of its calculations. 328 00:19:59,448 --> 00:20:02,284 They were going back and forth, 329 00:20:02,367 --> 00:20:07,039 but it wasn't until they found a mistake 330 00:20:07,122 --> 00:20:10,626 that finally confirmed that the hydrogen bubble 331 00:20:10,709 --> 00:20:13,629 did not present a serious threat. 332 00:20:13,712 --> 00:20:16,107 Is there danger to people in the surrounding area? 333 00:20:16,131 --> 00:20:18,467 I don't consider there is any imminent hazard today. 334 00:20:18,550 --> 00:20:20,052 The situation has stabilized. 335 00:20:20,135 --> 00:20:22,638 But it's very important that the way they bring the core 336 00:20:22,721 --> 00:20:25,057 to a cold shutdown condition with this bubble... 337 00:20:25,140 --> 00:20:26,308 I was so relieved. 338 00:20:26,391 --> 00:20:30,062 We had gotten through it without the loss of life. 339 00:20:30,145 --> 00:20:33,941 And to me, the immediate crisis phase was over. 340 00:20:38,654 --> 00:20:43,450 This nuclear accident obviously causes all of us concern. 341 00:20:43,951 --> 00:20:48,247 You deserve a full accounting, and you will get it. 342 00:20:49,373 --> 00:20:50,749 I've directed the establishment 343 00:20:50,832 --> 00:20:54,753 of an independent presidential commission of experts 344 00:20:54,836 --> 00:20:59,466 to investigate the causes of this accident and to make recommendations 345 00:20:59,549 --> 00:21:03,804 on how we can improve the safety of nuclear power plants. 346 00:21:13,230 --> 00:21:16,108 It was a week ago today that the accident began 347 00:21:16,191 --> 00:21:19,611 at the Three Mile Island atomic power plant in Pennsylvania. 348 00:21:19,695 --> 00:21:21,280 And today, that damaged plant 349 00:21:21,363 --> 00:21:24,908 still is venting some radioactivity into the surrounding air. 350 00:21:26,034 --> 00:21:28,680 Government scientists spent the morning in helicopters, 351 00:21:28,704 --> 00:21:31,665 measuring radiation still leaking from the plant. 352 00:21:31,748 --> 00:21:35,794 They had to get the hydrogen out of the reactor. 353 00:21:36,628 --> 00:21:39,047 So what they came up with was a method 354 00:21:39,131 --> 00:21:42,884 that they could vent off noble gases and anything else. 355 00:21:42,968 --> 00:21:44,553 That would lower pressure. 356 00:21:44,636 --> 00:21:46,555 Expected release of radiation today 357 00:21:46,638 --> 00:21:50,726 from Three Mile Island nuclear power plant has led to a series of consequences. 358 00:21:50,809 --> 00:21:53,645 But every time they opened that vent valve, 359 00:21:53,729 --> 00:21:58,692 there was an uncontrolled release of radiation to the environment. 360 00:21:58,775 --> 00:22:01,153 They had no choice. 361 00:22:01,236 --> 00:22:02,988 They had to do it. 362 00:22:05,032 --> 00:22:08,618 What were my children and myself exposed to in those three days? 363 00:22:10,579 --> 00:22:15,959 And the irresponsibility of Met-Ed, and the irresponsibility of NRC, 364 00:22:16,043 --> 00:22:17,878 and how could this ever happen? 365 00:22:19,171 --> 00:22:20,297 And, uh... 366 00:22:21,256 --> 00:22:23,967 I just hope that we do not become a statistic 367 00:22:24,051 --> 00:22:27,971 ten, 20, 30 years from now, but I know we're gonna be a statistic. 368 00:22:28,055 --> 00:22:30,307 Have you lived through a cancer death? 369 00:22:30,390 --> 00:22:31,391 I have. 370 00:22:31,475 --> 00:22:35,645 If that one is my son, or my wife or me, I think it's wrong. 371 00:22:38,023 --> 00:22:43,028 We spent a lot of time trying to determine how much radiation 372 00:22:43,111 --> 00:22:47,324 actually was continuing to release into the atmosphere. 373 00:22:47,407 --> 00:22:50,911 In a van nearby, a government scientist used a computer 374 00:22:50,994 --> 00:22:53,997 to analyze air, water, and vegetation samples. 375 00:22:54,831 --> 00:22:57,751 But the level, they were telling us, was not significant 376 00:22:57,834 --> 00:23:00,295 when it comes to the health of people in the area. 377 00:23:00,379 --> 00:23:02,381 The entire federal medical establishment 378 00:23:02,464 --> 00:23:05,300 said people in the Harrisburg area have nothing to worry about. 379 00:23:05,384 --> 00:23:08,220 We would expect to find no additional cancer deaths 380 00:23:08,303 --> 00:23:12,307 in this population as the result of radiation exposure today. 381 00:23:12,391 --> 00:23:15,477 A nuclear specialist had been quoted as observing 382 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,856 that alarming reports had probably caused more psychological harm 383 00:23:19,940 --> 00:23:23,318 than did the radiation during these seven days of tension. 384 00:23:23,944 --> 00:23:28,156 The fact is that at no time have a variety of test measurements 385 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:32,869 shown levels of contamination that were dangerous to normally healthy people. 386 00:23:34,246 --> 00:23:37,833 This industry was in a rush to exonerate itself 387 00:23:37,916 --> 00:23:39,835 immediately after the accident. 388 00:23:39,918 --> 00:23:44,589 And our best measurement tool, unfortunately, are human beings. 389 00:23:45,382 --> 00:23:47,134 If you don't look, you don't find. 390 00:23:47,217 --> 00:23:48,677 And a number of the monitors 391 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,264 were not capable of picking up the amount of radiation that escaped. 392 00:23:53,432 --> 00:23:56,351 Every dose of radiation is an overdose. 393 00:23:56,935 --> 00:23:59,396 A little of that radiation does a little harm, 394 00:23:59,479 --> 00:24:01,022 more of it does more harm. 395 00:24:01,857 --> 00:24:05,360 Nobody really knows how much radiation came out 396 00:24:05,444 --> 00:24:07,446 because we don't have the numbers. 397 00:24:08,113 --> 00:24:12,576 The estimates of radiation damage at Three Mile Island 398 00:24:12,659 --> 00:24:15,412 neglect all sorts of different kinds of variables. 399 00:24:16,371 --> 00:24:21,209 Anyone who says definitively how much radiation came out of that accident 400 00:24:21,293 --> 00:24:23,837 is either lying or a fool. 401 00:24:24,838 --> 00:24:27,257 Small traces of radioactive iodine 402 00:24:27,340 --> 00:24:29,593 have turned up in milk samples from the area. 403 00:24:29,676 --> 00:24:32,429 Hershey has not used any new milk since the accident 404 00:24:32,512 --> 00:24:34,848 and is testing its products for radioactivity. 405 00:24:34,931 --> 00:24:37,017 Areas where the plant dumped waste water 406 00:24:37,100 --> 00:24:40,395 are also testing positive for radioactive iodine. 407 00:24:40,479 --> 00:24:42,898 After the evacuation when we came back, 408 00:24:42,981 --> 00:24:44,691 I wanted to go to the boat ramp. 409 00:24:44,774 --> 00:24:49,446 That used to be one of my fun places to go where you take rocks and skip 'em. 410 00:24:51,531 --> 00:24:56,661 But what I remember seeing were a lot... a lot of dead fish. 411 00:24:57,871 --> 00:25:00,665 And it was up and down the river banks. 412 00:25:01,791 --> 00:25:05,545 I remember thinking, "There was something released in there 413 00:25:06,087 --> 00:25:10,509 that was more powerful than what they let on." 414 00:25:13,386 --> 00:25:18,225 People were still kind of leery of what happened. 415 00:25:19,559 --> 00:25:22,330 For the first time in ten days, the Governor of Pennsylvania 416 00:25:22,354 --> 00:25:25,315 lifted all of his orders regarding the power plant accident. 417 00:25:25,398 --> 00:25:27,108 This allowed the schools to reopen 418 00:25:27,192 --> 00:25:31,112 and pregnant women to return to their homes in a five-mile radius of the plant. 419 00:25:31,196 --> 00:25:33,573 It looks normal, seems normal, 420 00:25:34,282 --> 00:25:39,955 but we came back, and everything we had was still in limbo. 421 00:25:40,997 --> 00:25:43,416 I was down around the plant and, uh... 422 00:25:43,500 --> 00:25:46,920 on certain days, you could taste a metallic taste in your mouth. 423 00:25:47,796 --> 00:25:50,233 Those few days we spent across from Three Mile Island, 424 00:25:50,257 --> 00:25:51,758 we did get sore throats. 425 00:25:51,841 --> 00:25:54,803 And everybody around the area had had a sore throat. 426 00:25:54,886 --> 00:25:57,305 My son, he said, "Mom, I threw up." 427 00:25:57,931 --> 00:26:00,642 Just this unbelievable green-colored mucus. 428 00:26:00,725 --> 00:26:02,852 And it really frightened me, and, um... 429 00:26:02,936 --> 00:26:06,231 I called our pediatrician immediately, and he said to me, 430 00:26:06,314 --> 00:26:08,400 "Joyce, I really don't know." 431 00:26:08,483 --> 00:26:10,986 A girl who was in high school at the time, 432 00:26:11,069 --> 00:26:15,657 she had been outdoors Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, 433 00:26:15,740 --> 00:26:19,494 riding around all day on a bike in Middletown. 434 00:26:19,578 --> 00:26:21,788 Her skin broke out with lesions. 435 00:26:22,664 --> 00:26:25,792 When you dig deeper and talk to people in the community, 436 00:26:25,875 --> 00:26:29,921 they had metallic taste, eye irritation, diarrhea, projectile vomiting. 437 00:26:30,005 --> 00:26:33,425 All the experiences you would have with being exposed to radiation. 438 00:26:34,342 --> 00:26:38,179 And radiation has long-term, adverse health effects 439 00:26:38,263 --> 00:26:39,931 that could cause cancer. 440 00:26:40,682 --> 00:26:42,851 Middletown's 11,000 residents 441 00:26:42,934 --> 00:26:46,271 have serious concerns about their health and safety. 442 00:26:46,354 --> 00:26:49,983 Prior to the accident, I was in my own little world. 443 00:26:50,609 --> 00:26:55,572 No thought about radiation, or the dangers, or anything. 444 00:26:55,655 --> 00:26:56,990 Nothing. 445 00:26:57,073 --> 00:27:00,744 Pick this flyer up on low-level radiation. 446 00:27:00,827 --> 00:27:03,079 But when something like that happens to you, 447 00:27:03,163 --> 00:27:04,789 that you can lose everything... 448 00:27:04,873 --> 00:27:07,876 Your children's lives were on the line. 449 00:27:07,959 --> 00:27:12,505 I knew I had to stop living in la-la land, 450 00:27:12,589 --> 00:27:16,468 and it was time to educate myself and see what actually happened. 451 00:27:19,763 --> 00:27:22,182 For Harrisburg, it was a large gathering 452 00:27:22,265 --> 00:27:23,683 on the front steps of the Capitol. 453 00:27:23,767 --> 00:27:26,144 They said it was time to shut down for good 454 00:27:26,227 --> 00:27:28,313 the crippled Three Mile Island plant. 455 00:27:28,396 --> 00:27:30,732 People were beginning to say, "No nuclear power," 456 00:27:30,815 --> 00:27:33,360 which was something you were never gonna hear of 457 00:27:33,443 --> 00:27:35,695 under normal circumstances in our community. 458 00:27:36,905 --> 00:27:40,742 For a community like ours, that's probably part of the problem. 459 00:27:40,825 --> 00:27:44,287 Nobody really questioned nuclear when it came to the community. 460 00:27:44,371 --> 00:27:48,500 Three Mile Island Alert planned this rally today. 461 00:27:48,583 --> 00:27:52,796 Three Mile Island Alert was organized in 1977 462 00:27:52,879 --> 00:27:57,425 out of concerns about nuclear power, and we were on the margins. 463 00:27:57,509 --> 00:28:00,845 But there's nothing like an accident, and a meltdown, 464 00:28:00,929 --> 00:28:04,557 to turn you from a pariah into a messiah. 465 00:28:04,641 --> 00:28:07,602 There was a time when I would believe the government officials. 466 00:28:07,686 --> 00:28:10,814 But now I don't wanna even be asked to believe. 467 00:28:10,897 --> 00:28:12,357 Right here is why we're here. 468 00:28:13,858 --> 00:28:16,778 I decided to start to go to community meetings. 469 00:28:17,362 --> 00:28:19,989 And the NRC was going to be down there. 470 00:28:20,949 --> 00:28:25,537 They started out by telling us, "The radiation that your children got 471 00:28:25,620 --> 00:28:29,165 was no more than if you had smoked a cigarette 472 00:28:29,249 --> 00:28:31,167 or had drunk a glass of wine." 473 00:28:31,251 --> 00:28:32,627 In the state of Pennsylvania, 474 00:28:32,711 --> 00:28:35,171 you can't give my children wine and cigarettes. 475 00:28:35,255 --> 00:28:38,717 Why are you allowed to give me radiation that's equated to that? 476 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,345 More than 300 residents confronted the city council. 477 00:28:42,429 --> 00:28:45,140 We're gonna take all these things under advisement. 478 00:28:45,223 --> 00:28:49,185 But there was a point in going to the different meetings in the township 479 00:28:49,269 --> 00:28:52,439 where I realized when one question was asked, 480 00:28:53,231 --> 00:28:55,567 the NRC answered, 481 00:28:55,650 --> 00:28:58,528 and then at another meeting, the same question was asked, 482 00:28:58,611 --> 00:29:01,281 and it was a completely different answer. 483 00:29:01,364 --> 00:29:05,034 Officials insisted that the residents have nothing to worry about. 484 00:29:05,118 --> 00:29:08,830 And I thought, "They're either lying to us, 485 00:29:08,913 --> 00:29:12,459 or they don't know what they're doing." 486 00:29:12,542 --> 00:29:14,262 Fear of what could happen spawned 487 00:29:14,335 --> 00:29:16,629 one of the strongest anti-nuke movements in the country. 488 00:29:16,713 --> 00:29:19,132 No nuke! No nuke! 489 00:29:19,215 --> 00:29:21,468 The real message of The China Syndrome 490 00:29:21,551 --> 00:29:25,138 is that if we continue to place our health and safety 491 00:29:25,221 --> 00:29:31,269 in the hands of utility executives whose main goal is to maximize profits, 492 00:29:31,352 --> 00:29:33,855 then we will see more Harrisburgs, 493 00:29:33,938 --> 00:29:36,900 and we will see an increase in the cancer epidemic 494 00:29:36,983 --> 00:29:39,110 that is already running rampant in this country. 495 00:29:40,028 --> 00:29:44,699 I remember high school in '65. Vietnam War in full swing. 496 00:29:44,783 --> 00:29:47,327 I was so against protesters. 497 00:29:47,952 --> 00:29:52,832 People marching down Pennsylvania Avenue questioning our government. 498 00:29:52,916 --> 00:29:54,334 "How dare they?" 499 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,423 The rose-colored glasses were ripped off my face. 500 00:30:00,507 --> 00:30:02,592 I mean, it changed me. 501 00:30:03,718 --> 00:30:05,720 I went from housewife to activist. 502 00:30:05,804 --> 00:30:09,224 And I marched down the same streets in Pennsylvania Avenue, 503 00:30:09,933 --> 00:30:12,894 fighting what Three Mile Island did to us. 504 00:30:14,270 --> 00:30:19,025 What we're doing here today is more important than dealing with racism, 505 00:30:19,108 --> 00:30:22,362 than dealing with sexism, than dealing with hunger, 506 00:30:22,445 --> 00:30:24,405 'cause I can feel hunger! 507 00:30:24,489 --> 00:30:28,201 I can see war! I can feel racism! 508 00:30:28,284 --> 00:30:33,122 I cannot see radiation! I cannot smell radiation! 509 00:30:33,206 --> 00:30:36,459 I look around one day, and I am damned! 510 00:30:40,129 --> 00:30:42,799 The accident at the Three Mile Island plant 511 00:30:42,882 --> 00:30:46,970 has instantly intensified the debate over the safety of nuclear power, 512 00:30:47,053 --> 00:30:50,849 and this could call the whole future of the nuclear industry into question. 513 00:31:04,696 --> 00:31:07,907 The president's commission on the Three Mile Island nuclear plant 514 00:31:07,991 --> 00:31:09,868 presented its final report today. 515 00:31:09,951 --> 00:31:12,453 All the key personalities came to the hearing, 516 00:31:12,537 --> 00:31:15,623 like the men at the controls when the light started to flash. 517 00:31:15,707 --> 00:31:17,125 Each was asked to recite 518 00:31:17,208 --> 00:31:20,211 just what he did that made a bad accident worse. 519 00:31:20,295 --> 00:31:25,258 I'm the one that turned off the reactor coolant pumps initially. 520 00:31:25,341 --> 00:31:26,551 In my own mind, 521 00:31:26,634 --> 00:31:31,639 just the failure to recognize that we had a relief valve 522 00:31:31,723 --> 00:31:37,645 that was still partially open or open was probably the biggest event. 523 00:31:37,729 --> 00:31:40,648 People before Three Mile Island always looked at, 524 00:31:40,732 --> 00:31:44,027 "An operator will always assist you in a problem." 525 00:31:44,611 --> 00:31:46,863 We found out the operator, 526 00:31:47,447 --> 00:31:50,533 doing well-meaning actions from their mind, 527 00:31:50,617 --> 00:31:54,287 actually did something that was very detrimental to cooling the core. 528 00:31:54,370 --> 00:31:56,998 I also throttled the high-pressure injection. 529 00:31:57,081 --> 00:32:00,627 They were in a condition they had never been trained for, 530 00:32:00,710 --> 00:32:04,631 and there were many cases of miscommunication and misunderstanding. 531 00:32:04,714 --> 00:32:07,050 So they were a little lost. 532 00:32:07,550 --> 00:32:08,927 But at the time, 533 00:32:09,010 --> 00:32:13,181 everybody was trying to do what they thought was the right thing. 534 00:32:13,765 --> 00:32:17,560 A large number of the errors made in the course of this accident 535 00:32:17,644 --> 00:32:18,645 were human errors. 536 00:32:18,728 --> 00:32:23,608 Out of the six things that went wrong, about four and a half were people errors. 537 00:32:23,691 --> 00:32:27,153 One was an equipment malfunction, and maybe one was a design error. 538 00:32:28,154 --> 00:32:29,674 The presidential commission 539 00:32:29,739 --> 00:32:32,325 says one piece of testimony shocked its chairman. 540 00:32:33,159 --> 00:32:36,913 Before the Three Mile Island accident, there had been repeated problems 541 00:32:36,996 --> 00:32:40,667 with pressure safety valves of Babcock & Wilcox reactors. 542 00:32:40,750 --> 00:32:44,170 This should have forewarned the possibility of an accident. 543 00:32:44,837 --> 00:32:49,092 There's been in, in the past, a certain philosophy developed in NRC 544 00:32:49,842 --> 00:32:53,763 about reactor safety that these accidents couldn't happen. 545 00:32:53,846 --> 00:32:57,725 Jim Creswell was an NRC inspector 546 00:32:57,809 --> 00:33:01,980 who was sent to look into a set of events 547 00:33:02,063 --> 00:33:04,440 that had taken place at the Davis-Besse 548 00:33:04,524 --> 00:33:07,485 nuclear power plant in Ohio. 549 00:33:07,568 --> 00:33:10,321 They didn't actually have an accident, 550 00:33:10,405 --> 00:33:13,241 but they came close enough to arouse concern. 551 00:33:15,118 --> 00:33:20,957 So, Creswell requested an appointment with me about these valve issues. 552 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:26,045 And we met just six days before the accident at Three Mile Island. 553 00:33:26,129 --> 00:33:28,673 I obviously thought that they were serious. 554 00:33:29,298 --> 00:33:30,925 We developed a memo 555 00:33:31,009 --> 00:33:35,930 with a request that they treat it with some urgency at NRC headquarters. 556 00:33:39,392 --> 00:33:45,440 But, unfortunately, the response came back on the second day of the accident saying, 557 00:33:45,523 --> 00:33:48,609 "You don't really have to worry about this sequence." 558 00:33:51,487 --> 00:33:56,909 Clearly, the Davis-Besse event is one that the NRC and everybody wishes had been 559 00:33:56,993 --> 00:34:00,204 more widely disseminated and understood before Three Mile Island. 560 00:34:00,288 --> 00:34:02,665 While an investigation was conducted, 561 00:34:02,749 --> 00:34:07,045 sources say the NRC didn't take Jim Creswell's concerns seriously, 562 00:34:07,128 --> 00:34:12,008 and the inquiry was designed less to solve a problem than to quiet Creswell. 563 00:34:12,091 --> 00:34:15,762 Days prior to the core melt accident at Three Mile Island, 564 00:34:15,845 --> 00:34:18,347 Jim Creswell sent up a flare, 565 00:34:18,431 --> 00:34:19,599 and nobody listened. 566 00:34:19,682 --> 00:34:21,851 ...that these accidents couldn't happen. 567 00:34:21,934 --> 00:34:25,271 Three Mile Island was avoidable. The accident didn't need to happen. 568 00:34:25,354 --> 00:34:29,192 If the NRC and the industry would just listen to their staff. 569 00:34:29,275 --> 00:34:32,487 Perhaps post-TMI, there's a different philosophy. 570 00:34:33,237 --> 00:34:35,573 But there's not a culture of safety. 571 00:34:35,656 --> 00:34:37,992 There's a culture of bottom line. 572 00:34:38,076 --> 00:34:39,076 The bottom line is, 573 00:34:39,118 --> 00:34:41,746 "At any cost we need to make this thing profitable." 574 00:34:41,829 --> 00:34:43,164 "We need to make it work." 575 00:34:44,457 --> 00:34:47,585 So the reality was that the investigation 576 00:34:47,668 --> 00:34:50,171 into the severity of the accident at Three Mile Island 577 00:34:50,254 --> 00:34:53,466 by the president's commission was a whitewash. 578 00:34:54,425 --> 00:34:55,885 Thank you very much. 579 00:34:57,678 --> 00:35:01,933 The commission found very serious shortcomings 580 00:35:02,016 --> 00:35:05,478 in the way that both the government and the utility industry 581 00:35:05,561 --> 00:35:08,189 regulate and manage nuclear power. 582 00:35:08,940 --> 00:35:14,153 But we cannot shut the door on nuclear power for the United States. 583 00:35:20,535 --> 00:35:23,871 It's quite clear that the president's commission has given us 584 00:35:23,955 --> 00:35:28,501 and the American public a simple message on nuclear power. 585 00:35:28,584 --> 00:35:32,547 Proceed, but proceed with caution. 586 00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:35,049 People who live near the nuclear accident 587 00:35:35,133 --> 00:35:36,759 are struggling to deal with it. 588 00:35:37,677 --> 00:35:41,389 It proved that they are so far 589 00:35:41,472 --> 00:35:45,393 from seeing the reality of our community. 590 00:35:45,476 --> 00:35:47,687 Local residents and government officials 591 00:35:47,770 --> 00:35:49,689 greeted the commissioners with anger. 592 00:35:49,772 --> 00:35:55,361 You could feel the anger and the frustration. 593 00:35:55,444 --> 00:35:58,823 Where do we really count in making these decisions, 594 00:35:58,906 --> 00:36:00,491 or do we count at all? 595 00:36:00,575 --> 00:36:04,996 When you're talking about the future and the lives of your children, 596 00:36:05,079 --> 00:36:08,457 your grandchildren, your future great-grandchildren... 597 00:36:08,541 --> 00:36:10,835 it is raw. It is raw. 598 00:36:12,086 --> 00:36:14,589 At a nuclear regulatory study released today 599 00:36:14,672 --> 00:36:16,841 found that the Three Mile Island accident 600 00:36:16,924 --> 00:36:19,343 drove 44,000 people from their homes 601 00:36:19,427 --> 00:36:24,849 and cost 18.2 million dollars in evacuation expenses and lost wages. 602 00:36:26,392 --> 00:36:29,061 When the fire and the hurricanes are over, 603 00:36:29,145 --> 00:36:32,648 you can come back, and you can rebuild. 604 00:36:33,816 --> 00:36:36,485 We came back, and the problem was still here. 605 00:36:38,529 --> 00:36:42,992 I could either accept what they said, and go with the flow, 606 00:36:43,075 --> 00:36:45,578 or I could be the master of my own fate, 607 00:36:45,661 --> 00:36:47,955 and I wanted to know the truth. 608 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,341 Even after President Carter came, after the hydrogen bubble, 609 00:36:58,424 --> 00:37:03,262 the whole accident scenario that occurred at Three Mile Island 610 00:37:03,346 --> 00:37:07,683 had a huge impact on the nuclear industry. 611 00:37:10,853 --> 00:37:15,441 But nobody knew for sure how much damage was done to the reactor. 612 00:37:28,788 --> 00:37:32,333 Until now, experts could only guess the true damage done 613 00:37:32,416 --> 00:37:34,877 to the nuclear power plant at Three Mile Island, 614 00:37:34,961 --> 00:37:38,047 but today technicians will have first-hand evidence 615 00:37:38,130 --> 00:37:41,133 of what really happened inside the reactor core. 616 00:37:42,468 --> 00:37:44,804 July of 1982, 617 00:37:44,887 --> 00:37:49,058 we performed a procedure that we termed "quick look." 618 00:37:50,476 --> 00:37:53,271 We sent radiation monitoring equipment 619 00:37:53,354 --> 00:37:58,067 and a camera down into the core where we could survey the damage. 620 00:38:00,528 --> 00:38:02,905 There was great technological debate 621 00:38:02,989 --> 00:38:05,825 about how much damage was in the core. 622 00:38:05,908 --> 00:38:11,163 So we had live TV, and we had live audio as he lowered it in, 623 00:38:11,247 --> 00:38:13,249 and it was complete silence in the room. 624 00:38:15,501 --> 00:38:17,336 Both cables are going down. 625 00:38:19,630 --> 00:38:22,383 We're now two feet into the core. 626 00:38:24,635 --> 00:38:27,096 We... We are approaching four feet. 627 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,474 Four feet. People are saying, "Oh, my goodness." 628 00:38:31,767 --> 00:38:34,770 It's five feet down. Go slow right there. See if we can get that. 629 00:38:34,854 --> 00:38:37,773 - All right. Let me slow down here. - Just slow... 630 00:38:38,691 --> 00:38:41,402 We've got so much light. Can we... 631 00:38:44,780 --> 00:38:46,282 Beautiful picture, Norman. 632 00:38:46,866 --> 00:38:48,993 Well, I'd love to know what the hell it is. 633 00:38:50,369 --> 00:38:53,622 We discovered that the upper one half of the core 634 00:38:53,706 --> 00:38:57,251 had literally just collapsed in on top of itself. 635 00:38:57,335 --> 00:38:59,879 It was a molten mess. 636 00:39:03,382 --> 00:39:06,093 There was a lot more damage done to the reactor 637 00:39:06,177 --> 00:39:08,179 than anybody thought we had done. 638 00:39:09,305 --> 00:39:10,389 Anybody. 639 00:39:10,473 --> 00:39:13,559 We're talking about massive core damage. 640 00:39:14,143 --> 00:39:15,895 When they lost cooling water, 641 00:39:15,978 --> 00:39:19,023 the core had been exposed and melted at that point. 642 00:39:19,106 --> 00:39:23,486 Meaning that we came within of maybe 30 minutes of a catastrophe 643 00:39:23,569 --> 00:39:28,783 involving a steam explosion blowing the entire reactor apart. 644 00:39:34,038 --> 00:39:35,331 Thirty minutes. 645 00:39:35,414 --> 00:39:37,917 I didn't realize it was 30 minutes. 646 00:39:41,712 --> 00:39:43,214 Dear God... 647 00:39:45,049 --> 00:39:46,717 It was a meltdown. 648 00:39:48,928 --> 00:39:50,930 The accident at Three Mile Island 649 00:39:51,013 --> 00:39:55,059 was the worst nuclear accident that ever happened on American soil. 650 00:39:55,142 --> 00:40:00,022 Little did we know there was another scenario awaiting us 651 00:40:00,106 --> 00:40:04,068 that was potentially much more dangerous than the accident. 57732

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