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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,724 --> 00:00:12,852 There's a dead woman who's here, 2 00:00:12,872 --> 00:00:15,000 she doesn't like the woman who lives here. 3 00:00:16,586 --> 00:00:19,137 She's really trying to hurt her while she's sleeping. 4 00:00:20,068 --> 00:00:21,152 Sometimes when I wake up 5 00:00:21,172 --> 00:00:23,600 and I got big bruises all over me. 6 00:00:23,620 --> 00:00:26,068 My parents, they're pretty much sitting ducks. 7 00:00:26,827 --> 00:00:29,000 This hammer comes flying off the bench. 8 00:00:29,020 --> 00:00:29,931 It's dangerous to be in here. 9 00:00:29,951 --> 00:00:31,255 It's scary. 10 00:00:31,275 --> 00:00:32,920 Things like go flying. 11 00:00:32,940 --> 00:00:34,586 It's poltergeist activity. 12 00:00:36,517 --> 00:00:37,497 There's a portal 13 00:00:37,517 --> 00:00:40,007 directly from the railroad tracks 14 00:00:40,027 --> 00:00:42,517 into the backdoor of your house. 15 00:00:42,537 --> 00:00:43,566 Wow. 16 00:00:43,586 --> 00:00:45,482 And I really feel like your family is in trouble. 17 00:00:47,482 --> 00:00:50,965 She wants the people in here to die like her family died. 18 00:00:52,275 --> 00:00:55,379 I keep hearing, "Murder, murder, murder." 19 00:00:55,399 --> 00:00:57,068 My name is Cindy Kaza. 20 00:00:57,586 --> 00:00:58,980 I'm a psychic medium. 21 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,586 Somebody's conjuring up the spirits in this house, 22 00:01:01,606 --> 00:01:02,807 I swear to God. 23 00:01:02,827 --> 00:01:04,955 I ask questions to the dead... 24 00:01:04,975 --> 00:01:06,925 These people are grave robbers. 25 00:01:06,945 --> 00:01:08,876 ...to find answers for the living. 26 00:01:08,896 --> 00:01:12,551 I'm a 100% sure that we are dealing with something demonic. 27 00:01:13,689 --> 00:01:15,393 I'm Steve DiSchiavi. 28 00:01:15,413 --> 00:01:17,644 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 29 00:01:17,664 --> 00:01:19,876 So when he jumped you like that, what happens? 30 00:01:19,896 --> 00:01:23,379 It's my job to dig up history of every house we investigate. 31 00:01:23,399 --> 00:01:24,669 I wanna talk about the blood bath. 32 00:01:24,689 --> 00:01:26,807 And dig up secrets that wanna stay hidden. 33 00:01:26,827 --> 00:01:28,724 We've done everything, we're putting the house down. 34 00:01:28,744 --> 00:01:30,462 Together we help terrified families. 35 00:01:30,482 --> 00:01:32,620 A man's voice said, "I'm going to kill you." 36 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,497 Decide whether it's safe to stay. 37 00:01:34,517 --> 00:01:38,413 I let him sit there and fight this thing. 38 00:01:38,433 --> 00:01:39,911 Well, pack a bag and get out. 39 00:01:39,931 --> 00:01:42,965 His goal would be to have you all die. 40 00:02:03,379 --> 00:02:05,241 This place is creeping me out. 41 00:02:11,103 --> 00:02:12,896 I don't like the way it feels in this house. 42 00:02:12,916 --> 00:02:14,172 That's for sure. 43 00:02:14,517 --> 00:02:15,586 Okay. 44 00:02:16,379 --> 00:02:18,724 It feels really, really dark in here. 45 00:02:18,744 --> 00:02:20,362 It's the energy in here. 46 00:02:20,382 --> 00:02:22,000 This house feels really bad. 47 00:02:24,172 --> 00:02:28,310 This woman that lives here is really terrified. 48 00:02:28,330 --> 00:02:30,551 It's like, so terrified. 49 00:02:32,827 --> 00:02:34,689 This whole thing is freaking me out. 50 00:02:43,793 --> 00:02:45,117 I'm in Austin, Indiana. 51 00:02:45,137 --> 00:02:48,620 It's a small city about an hour south of Indianapolis. 52 00:02:48,640 --> 00:02:50,773 I got a call from a young woman named Paula. 53 00:02:50,793 --> 00:02:54,000 Now, she tells me her childhood home is so haunted, 54 00:02:54,020 --> 00:02:56,275 she got out the first chance she could. 55 00:02:57,482 --> 00:03:00,724 But unfortunately her parents don't have the money to leave. 56 00:03:00,744 --> 00:03:02,999 And she's scared they're in serious danger. 57 00:03:03,019 --> 00:03:05,275 She asked me to meet at her new house first, 58 00:03:05,295 --> 00:03:07,000 so we can talk in private. 59 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,172 Hopefully Cindy and I can help her out. 60 00:03:11,620 --> 00:03:13,793 So, Paula, I got to tell you, it's a beautiful home you have here. 61 00:03:13,813 --> 00:03:16,793 - Thank you. - But obviously this is not the home 62 00:03:16,813 --> 00:03:18,000 that's has the issue. 63 00:03:18,020 --> 00:03:19,152 No. 64 00:03:19,172 --> 00:03:20,586 You called 'cause you were worried about your parents. 65 00:03:20,606 --> 00:03:21,773 Now, why? 66 00:03:21,793 --> 00:03:24,359 They're at the house... all alone. 67 00:03:24,379 --> 00:03:26,103 You know they are pretty much sitting ducks 68 00:03:26,123 --> 00:03:29,189 for everything that's going to happen. 69 00:03:29,209 --> 00:03:31,732 That is why I tried to get them some help. 70 00:03:31,752 --> 00:03:34,275 Why did you call, and not your parents? 71 00:03:34,295 --> 00:03:35,980 I honestly don't think 72 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,627 they're taking it as serious as what I am. 73 00:03:38,647 --> 00:03:41,275 So how old were you when you moved out? 74 00:03:41,295 --> 00:03:42,566 I was 21. 75 00:03:42,586 --> 00:03:44,524 Okay. Do you have siblings? 76 00:03:44,544 --> 00:03:46,462 I have two older brothers. 77 00:03:46,482 --> 00:03:49,000 Okay, did either of them lived with your mom and dad? 78 00:03:49,020 --> 00:03:51,241 No, it's just, my parents. 79 00:03:53,379 --> 00:03:57,103 That is my mom, Paula and my dad, Stanley. 80 00:03:57,123 --> 00:03:59,000 Okay, so your mom is a Paula, too. 81 00:03:59,020 --> 00:04:00,083 Yes. 82 00:04:00,103 --> 00:04:01,482 And how far do they live from here? 83 00:04:01,502 --> 00:04:03,034 About 10-15 minutes. 84 00:04:03,054 --> 00:04:05,462 - Okay, so they're close. - Yeah. 85 00:04:05,482 --> 00:04:06,965 Right, so do you visit them a lot? 86 00:04:07,379 --> 00:04:08,669 Yes. - Okay. 87 00:04:08,689 --> 00:04:10,137 Do you have any experiences when you're there? 88 00:04:10,724 --> 00:04:12,255 Yeah. - You do. 89 00:04:12,275 --> 00:04:13,489 Okay, so we'll get in to that 90 00:04:13,509 --> 00:04:14,704 when we get to your mom's house. 91 00:04:14,724 --> 00:04:16,689 Can you give me a list of what they're going through? 92 00:04:16,709 --> 00:04:19,600 Well, they've been seeing apparitions. 93 00:04:19,620 --> 00:04:22,748 Things have been flying all over the place. 94 00:04:22,768 --> 00:04:25,896 My mom, she's been scratched and bruised. 95 00:04:25,916 --> 00:04:28,980 And it's been causing them to fight. 96 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,248 So, do me a favor. Tell me about the fightin'. 97 00:04:32,268 --> 00:04:36,359 - Well, both of them are real happy-go-lucky people. - Okay. 98 00:04:36,379 --> 00:04:38,379 And for the past couple of years 99 00:04:38,399 --> 00:04:39,980 it seems like just... 100 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,179 with the flip of a switch, 101 00:04:42,199 --> 00:04:44,192 one of them would be snapping 102 00:04:44,212 --> 00:04:46,186 at the other for no reason. 103 00:04:46,206 --> 00:04:48,689 So the fighting and stuff, you're afraid it's gonna 104 00:04:48,709 --> 00:04:50,807 ...break up your parents? - Yes. 105 00:04:50,827 --> 00:04:52,359 I have a feeling that 106 00:04:52,379 --> 00:04:54,482 whatever is in the house is trying to 107 00:04:54,502 --> 00:04:55,965 cause them to separate. 108 00:04:56,931 --> 00:04:58,359 You just have a little faith. 109 00:04:58,379 --> 00:05:00,724 The main thing is we're gonna try to help. 110 00:05:00,744 --> 00:05:01,773 Okay? 111 00:05:01,793 --> 00:05:03,172 All right. 112 00:05:07,620 --> 00:05:08,980 Seeing an image of a woman. 113 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,068 She has blonde hair that's like about to here. 114 00:05:12,482 --> 00:05:14,317 And I see her crying, 115 00:05:14,337 --> 00:05:16,172 and she's really, really, 116 00:05:16,192 --> 00:05:18,669 really upset. 117 00:05:18,689 --> 00:05:20,980 I actually feel like she's alive. 118 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,206 And I see this connection with a father and a son, 119 00:05:24,226 --> 00:05:26,083 like working together 120 00:05:26,103 --> 00:05:29,275 but I feel like there's a lot of aggression. 121 00:05:29,295 --> 00:05:30,980 This family is in trouble though. 122 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,103 I mean, the dynamics between the family members, 123 00:05:33,123 --> 00:05:34,911 it's really, really off. 124 00:05:34,931 --> 00:05:37,696 The fighting is so intense, it feels so extreme. 125 00:05:37,716 --> 00:05:40,462 It's the aggression. Everybody is aggressive. 126 00:05:40,482 --> 00:05:43,448 Everybody is yelling at each other, the whole family. 127 00:05:44,103 --> 00:05:45,275 It's paranormal. 128 00:05:45,295 --> 00:05:46,448 Yeah. 129 00:05:53,689 --> 00:05:56,255 Paula led me to her parents' house. 130 00:05:56,275 --> 00:05:58,689 And as soon as she pulled up and got out of her car, 131 00:05:58,709 --> 00:06:00,241 I could feel her tension up. 132 00:06:02,068 --> 00:06:03,575 So, you're parents are gonna be back soon. 133 00:06:03,595 --> 00:06:05,103 So what I wanna do before they get here 134 00:06:05,123 --> 00:06:06,689 is talk about your experiences. 135 00:06:06,709 --> 00:06:08,378 Well, the mood changes. 136 00:06:08,398 --> 00:06:10,048 I didn't feel I'm until 137 00:06:10,068 --> 00:06:12,379 we pulled in and I started walking 138 00:06:12,399 --> 00:06:13,704 up the stairs. 139 00:06:13,724 --> 00:06:16,172 I could see, you're very different from when we're at your place. 140 00:06:16,192 --> 00:06:17,876 You just kind of somber. 141 00:06:17,896 --> 00:06:20,275 Does that last the entire time you're here? - Yes. 142 00:06:20,295 --> 00:06:21,930 Have you suffered from depression 143 00:06:21,950 --> 00:06:23,566 or anything like that? - No. 144 00:06:23,586 --> 00:06:25,103 Okay. So, you're not on any medications 145 00:06:25,123 --> 00:06:26,255 or anything? - No. 146 00:06:26,275 --> 00:06:27,793 All right, so you've got the mood changes. 147 00:06:27,813 --> 00:06:28,896 What else can you tell me? 148 00:06:28,916 --> 00:06:30,393 One time I was here, 149 00:06:30,413 --> 00:06:32,566 the water heater caught fire. 150 00:06:32,586 --> 00:06:34,310 All right, so who's home when this happened? 151 00:06:34,330 --> 00:06:35,876 Just me. 152 00:06:35,896 --> 00:06:37,482 So, what makes you think that fire was paranormal? 153 00:06:37,502 --> 00:06:40,206 When the fire department got here, 154 00:06:40,226 --> 00:06:41,669 they could not find the cause. 155 00:06:41,689 --> 00:06:42,931 So, if you weren't home this whole house 156 00:06:42,951 --> 00:06:44,344 would've burned down. - Yes. 157 00:06:45,724 --> 00:06:47,352 Okay. So anything else? 158 00:06:47,372 --> 00:06:49,141 Sometimes when I'm here 159 00:06:49,161 --> 00:06:50,811 bruises will just show up 160 00:06:50,831 --> 00:06:52,462 somewhere on my body. 161 00:06:52,482 --> 00:06:53,980 So when's the last time this happened? 162 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,275 Couple of months ago. Um, I actually do have a, 163 00:06:57,295 --> 00:06:58,497 a picture, 164 00:06:58,517 --> 00:07:00,773 of the last one that I had. 165 00:07:00,793 --> 00:07:02,931 Wow. Where was this on your body? 166 00:07:02,951 --> 00:07:04,911 It was on my left knee. 167 00:07:04,931 --> 00:07:06,773 Isn't that a pretty nasty bruise? 168 00:07:06,793 --> 00:07:08,000 Yeah, and that's not even actually 169 00:07:08,020 --> 00:07:09,500 the worst one that I've had. 170 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,250 You didn't bang into anything 171 00:07:11,270 --> 00:07:13,383 or nothing like that? - No. 172 00:07:13,403 --> 00:07:15,157 I'm not really a klutzy person. 173 00:07:15,177 --> 00:07:16,911 Honestly, if you had your choice, 174 00:07:16,931 --> 00:07:19,300 would you want your parents to just leave? 175 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,669 Yes, I would rather that they did leave, 176 00:07:21,689 --> 00:07:25,482 I feel like with everything that's been going on, 177 00:07:25,502 --> 00:07:26,551 they're not safe. 178 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,231 They haven't been safe. 179 00:07:28,251 --> 00:07:29,462 It's just getting worse. 180 00:07:29,482 --> 00:07:31,586 And I'm afraid that it's something that can't be fixed. 181 00:07:32,586 --> 00:07:33,793 Okay. 182 00:07:38,206 --> 00:07:40,689 There's a man that's standing behind me, a dead man. 183 00:07:41,482 --> 00:07:44,024 He's pretty tall. I see he's bigger guy. 184 00:07:44,044 --> 00:07:46,586 Can you see him harassing the living at all? 185 00:07:46,606 --> 00:07:47,980 Yes, definitely. 186 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,586 I see him walking back and forth. 187 00:07:51,606 --> 00:07:53,344 His footsteps are super loud. 188 00:07:53,931 --> 00:07:55,290 He tries to intimidate 189 00:07:55,310 --> 00:07:58,206 by just getting really close to the people in this house. 190 00:07:58,226 --> 00:08:00,172 It's like, let's say you're standing here, 191 00:08:00,192 --> 00:08:01,982 you can feel somebody coming up 192 00:08:02,002 --> 00:08:03,773 and getting really close to you. 193 00:08:03,793 --> 00:08:06,000 Like, he'll make a noise in your ear. 194 00:08:06,020 --> 00:08:07,359 Does he do anything else? 195 00:08:07,379 --> 00:08:08,773 When people are in the kitchen, 196 00:08:08,793 --> 00:08:12,586 I see him walking behind and pushing. 197 00:08:13,482 --> 00:08:15,524 When people come to open the fridge, 198 00:08:15,544 --> 00:08:17,586 it's like I see somebody getting shoved, 199 00:08:17,606 --> 00:08:18,862 shoved into the counter. 200 00:08:27,103 --> 00:08:29,566 So Stanley, your daughter called us in. 201 00:08:29,586 --> 00:08:32,172 She thinks whatever is here is pretty dangerous. 202 00:08:32,192 --> 00:08:34,152 - I mean, do you agree with her? - Yes, sir, I do. 203 00:08:34,172 --> 00:08:35,255 You do? - Yes, sir. 204 00:08:35,275 --> 00:08:38,172 Okay. Well, she kinda thinks you guys are... 205 00:08:38,192 --> 00:08:39,359 little bit in denial? 206 00:08:39,379 --> 00:08:41,679 At first, Steve, I really was. 207 00:08:41,699 --> 00:08:43,442 I overlooked it. - Okay. 208 00:08:43,462 --> 00:08:44,858 But not so much anymore. 209 00:08:44,878 --> 00:08:46,255 I understand you guys 210 00:08:46,275 --> 00:08:47,689 have been fighting as well. - Yes, sir. 211 00:08:47,709 --> 00:08:49,499 We can be in the best mood. 212 00:08:49,519 --> 00:08:51,310 Sitting, laughing and talking. 213 00:08:51,330 --> 00:08:52,773 And it just like, 214 00:08:52,793 --> 00:08:54,438 in the next little, bit, 215 00:08:54,458 --> 00:08:56,083 you know, you just snap. 216 00:08:56,103 --> 00:08:58,172 You don't seem that type to me. - No. 217 00:08:58,192 --> 00:08:59,980 We've got along right. 218 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,290 We've been married over 35 years. 219 00:09:02,310 --> 00:09:04,196 So is it gotten to the point where you guys 220 00:09:04,216 --> 00:09:06,103 talked about splittin' up? - Yes, sir. 221 00:09:06,123 --> 00:09:07,497 Okay. - Quite a few times. 222 00:09:07,517 --> 00:09:09,620 We need help. We need answers. 223 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:10,965 Right. - If it can be fixed, 224 00:09:10,985 --> 00:09:12,827 I'd love for it to be fixed. 225 00:09:12,847 --> 00:09:14,669 I want this to end. - Right. 226 00:09:14,689 --> 00:09:17,344 All right. So what experiences have you had? 227 00:09:17,689 --> 00:09:18,600 I have an old car. 228 00:09:18,620 --> 00:09:20,310 It's sitting in the garage. - Okay. 229 00:09:20,330 --> 00:09:21,773 Stereo would come on. 230 00:09:21,793 --> 00:09:24,231 You gotta have a key for the stereo to come on. 231 00:09:24,251 --> 00:09:26,563 So, I'm looking around obviously you're handy. 232 00:09:26,583 --> 00:09:28,729 It looks like you've done some mechanic work. 233 00:09:28,749 --> 00:09:30,896 Are you positive you had to have the key on 234 00:09:30,916 --> 00:09:32,241 to have the radio play? 235 00:09:32,261 --> 00:09:33,566 Yes, sir. 236 00:09:33,586 --> 00:09:35,896 I've been working on cars since 16. 237 00:09:35,916 --> 00:09:37,152 That's stunned me. 238 00:09:37,172 --> 00:09:38,600 And then one other time 239 00:09:38,620 --> 00:09:41,620 we heard like a flapped squeak inside. 240 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,497 We open the door and come in, 241 00:09:43,517 --> 00:09:46,586 my wipers... were flapping on the car. 242 00:09:46,606 --> 00:09:48,344 Same car? - Same car. 243 00:09:48,896 --> 00:09:50,083 Okay. Anything else? 244 00:09:50,103 --> 00:09:52,793 Me and my son-in-law was in the garage 245 00:09:52,813 --> 00:09:55,393 working on my daughter's truck. 246 00:09:55,413 --> 00:09:59,689 This hammer comes flying off the bench about eight foot. 247 00:09:59,709 --> 00:10:03,152 And it come within a foot from hit me. 248 00:10:03,172 --> 00:10:05,448 This is no light-weight hammer. - Yeah. 249 00:10:07,103 --> 00:10:08,566 Is there any chance somebody could 250 00:10:08,586 --> 00:10:10,586 came through the window here? Is this window open? 251 00:10:10,606 --> 00:10:12,600 No, sir, its bolted. 252 00:10:12,620 --> 00:10:13,896 Right, so let me ask you this question, 253 00:10:13,916 --> 00:10:15,186 you got a train two feet from us, 254 00:10:15,206 --> 00:10:16,931 was a train going by then? - No, sir. 255 00:10:16,951 --> 00:10:18,980 No, sir, no train at all. 256 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,000 So, did anything like that ever happen again? 257 00:10:21,020 --> 00:10:22,655 Yes, sir, I've had wrenches, 258 00:10:23,379 --> 00:10:25,524 literally fly across the garage. 259 00:10:25,544 --> 00:10:27,710 It's dangerous to be in here. 260 00:10:27,730 --> 00:10:29,876 At times it's scary. - Yeah. 261 00:10:29,896 --> 00:10:32,827 There's something here. There's a problem. - Right. 262 00:10:32,847 --> 00:10:34,327 Why don't you just move? 263 00:10:34,347 --> 00:10:35,807 It's financial situation. 264 00:10:35,827 --> 00:10:37,586 We just don't have the money to move. 265 00:10:37,606 --> 00:10:39,669 Okay. - Number two... 266 00:10:39,689 --> 00:10:41,800 I just don't want to pass it on to somebody else 267 00:10:41,820 --> 00:10:43,911 to go through the headaches we're going through. 268 00:10:43,931 --> 00:10:46,172 You're a good person. Most people won't even care. 269 00:10:46,192 --> 00:10:48,154 So, I understand that, though. 270 00:10:48,174 --> 00:10:50,137 But we got to fix it then. 271 00:10:53,310 --> 00:10:55,938 I know that people that come in here, 272 00:10:55,958 --> 00:10:58,586 things with electronics stop working 273 00:10:58,606 --> 00:11:00,482 or, or they malfunction. 274 00:11:00,931 --> 00:11:02,448 Things start turning on. 275 00:11:03,517 --> 00:11:05,645 I know we've like a lot of tools and stuff in here 276 00:11:05,665 --> 00:11:07,793 but I feel like it's actually kind of dangerous, 277 00:11:07,813 --> 00:11:09,566 like things might go flying. 278 00:11:09,586 --> 00:11:12,586 People feel like they've been hit with things. 279 00:11:12,606 --> 00:11:15,137 It's poltergeist activity is what I feel. 280 00:11:15,157 --> 00:11:17,669 It's actually pretty dangerous. - Okay. 281 00:11:17,689 --> 00:11:19,482 You know, I feel like I'll be ducking like this 282 00:11:19,502 --> 00:11:21,068 because I wouldn't wanna get hit in head. 283 00:11:22,310 --> 00:11:26,172 So, there's a lot of poltergeist activity in this space and house. 284 00:11:26,620 --> 00:11:27,965 So aggressive. 285 00:11:49,206 --> 00:11:50,896 So, Paula, talking to your daughter 286 00:11:50,916 --> 00:11:52,758 she thinks you're in danger here. 287 00:11:52,778 --> 00:11:53,965 I mean do you agree with her? 288 00:11:54,586 --> 00:11:56,738 Yes, I do. Um, I'm getting 289 00:11:56,758 --> 00:11:59,083 physically attacked in here. - Okay. 290 00:11:59,103 --> 00:12:02,179 So are there experiences you can tell me about? 291 00:12:02,199 --> 00:12:05,275 Few years ago I've seen a big black figure. 292 00:12:05,295 --> 00:12:06,878 Looked just like the grim reaper. 293 00:12:06,898 --> 00:12:08,628 And I've seen it in the hallway 294 00:12:08,648 --> 00:12:10,359 when I was coming out of the room. 295 00:12:10,379 --> 00:12:12,103 Were you drinking... - No, I don't drink. 296 00:12:12,123 --> 00:12:14,034 Or would've had medication? - No. 297 00:12:14,054 --> 00:12:15,965 It's nothing like that? 298 00:12:16,931 --> 00:12:19,068 And that's a pretty scary sight. - Yes, it was. 299 00:12:19,088 --> 00:12:20,793 I will never wanna see it again. 300 00:12:20,813 --> 00:12:22,172 Okay, so what else? 301 00:12:22,586 --> 00:12:24,127 We were painting 302 00:12:24,147 --> 00:12:25,669 in the dining room 303 00:12:25,689 --> 00:12:28,103 and I heard somethin' shatter 304 00:12:28,123 --> 00:12:29,359 and I looked over 305 00:12:29,379 --> 00:12:31,482 and a glass literally picked up 306 00:12:31,502 --> 00:12:32,773 out of the dish drainer 307 00:12:32,793 --> 00:12:35,738 and went into the sink and it shattered. 308 00:12:35,758 --> 00:12:37,310 Do you have any cats running around or something? 309 00:12:37,330 --> 00:12:38,669 No, we don't have no cats. 310 00:12:38,689 --> 00:12:40,566 Okay. So what else is going on? 311 00:12:40,586 --> 00:12:42,275 Me and my husband, both seen a woman, 312 00:12:42,295 --> 00:12:44,068 another woman in the bedroom. 313 00:12:44,088 --> 00:12:46,290 - Okay, where was she? - Over by the foot of the bed... 314 00:12:46,310 --> 00:12:48,386 ...and she was, standing over there... 315 00:12:48,406 --> 00:12:50,462 ...and she was jerking on the curtain. 316 00:12:50,482 --> 00:12:53,172 Okay. Do you have nightmares, like vivid dreams? 317 00:12:53,517 --> 00:12:54,669 I used to. 318 00:12:54,689 --> 00:12:56,482 So this wasn't a nightmare? - No. No. 319 00:12:56,502 --> 00:12:57,689 Okay. 320 00:13:03,931 --> 00:13:05,034 Um... 321 00:13:09,758 --> 00:13:11,379 I'm gonna do automatic writing. 322 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,965 There's a dead woman who's here... 323 00:13:21,931 --> 00:13:24,137 she doesn't like the woman who lives here. 324 00:13:27,206 --> 00:13:30,000 She wishes she would die of cancer like the others. 325 00:13:35,793 --> 00:13:38,566 This dead woman is a big part 326 00:13:38,586 --> 00:13:41,689 of helping to fuel this poltergeist activity. 327 00:13:41,709 --> 00:13:43,793 It has her influence on the family 328 00:13:43,813 --> 00:13:45,655 as really negative and dark. 329 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,586 What the hell are you doing here, lady? 330 00:13:55,620 --> 00:13:59,000 All right so you have a few things going on. Anything else? 331 00:13:59,020 --> 00:14:01,103 Yeah, the other night we went to bed 332 00:14:01,123 --> 00:14:02,773 and we had just laid down 333 00:14:02,793 --> 00:14:05,689 and we heard somebody banging on the front of the headboard. 334 00:14:06,931 --> 00:14:08,000 This headboard right here? 335 00:14:08,020 --> 00:14:09,359 Yes. - How loud? 336 00:14:09,379 --> 00:14:11,448 Very loud. It was 337 00:14:12,068 --> 00:14:13,213 Like that? 338 00:14:14,379 --> 00:14:17,275 So I assume going back to sleep that night must have been tough. 339 00:14:17,295 --> 00:14:18,775 Yeah, we didn't go back to sleep. 340 00:14:18,795 --> 00:14:20,275 You didn't? - No, I stayed up. 341 00:14:20,295 --> 00:14:22,152 Okay, so what else? 342 00:14:22,172 --> 00:14:25,206 I've been gettin' scratches all over my body. 343 00:14:25,226 --> 00:14:27,758 Okay, so specifically where on the body? 344 00:14:27,778 --> 00:14:29,876 On my chest, arms and legs. 345 00:14:29,896 --> 00:14:31,310 How often you getting these scratches? 346 00:14:31,330 --> 00:14:32,773 Yeah, at least once a month. 347 00:14:32,793 --> 00:14:34,586 Does dog sleep in bed with you guys? 348 00:14:34,606 --> 00:14:36,669 No, we don't put her in the bed. 349 00:14:36,689 --> 00:14:38,886 All right so what else is going on here? 350 00:14:38,906 --> 00:14:41,184 I sometimes will be asleep and wake up 351 00:14:41,204 --> 00:14:42,988 and I got big bruises all over me. 352 00:14:43,008 --> 00:14:44,773 Now, your daughter mentioned to me, 353 00:14:44,793 --> 00:14:46,462 she showed me a photo, one of her bruises 354 00:14:46,482 --> 00:14:48,482 and mentioned that she had bruise on the back of her leg. 355 00:14:48,502 --> 00:14:50,172 Are you getting on that part of your body as well? 356 00:14:50,192 --> 00:14:53,000 Yeah, on my legs, arms, chest. 357 00:14:53,020 --> 00:14:54,152 Okay. 358 00:14:54,172 --> 00:14:57,068 Few times I've had them on across my, arm, 359 00:14:57,088 --> 00:14:58,775 or pretty close to my wrist, 360 00:14:58,795 --> 00:15:00,232 and it looks like three fingers. 361 00:15:00,252 --> 00:15:01,667 Well, I've got to ask, 362 00:15:01,687 --> 00:15:03,333 when you guys were in bed, I mean, 363 00:15:03,353 --> 00:15:05,000 does your husband sleep violently? 364 00:15:05,020 --> 00:15:06,773 No, he don't. - Okay. 365 00:15:06,793 --> 00:15:08,793 So, I gotta ask you, I mean, if we can't figure out 366 00:15:08,813 --> 00:15:10,255 how to stop this from happening, 367 00:15:10,275 --> 00:15:12,379 would you wanna leave? - Yeah, I do. 368 00:15:12,399 --> 00:15:13,497 You do. 369 00:15:13,517 --> 00:15:15,300 I just don't wanna live here anymore. 370 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,083 Okay. - Yeah, I just want some peace. 371 00:15:17,103 --> 00:15:19,103 I don't blame you. I don't know how you're living 372 00:15:19,123 --> 00:15:21,137 like you're doing now, so, okay. 373 00:15:26,310 --> 00:15:28,793 Whoever sleeps in this room wakes up with bruises. 374 00:15:28,813 --> 00:15:31,517 And this dead woman is causing the bruises. 375 00:15:31,537 --> 00:15:33,551 So I see her grabbing the arm... 376 00:15:34,310 --> 00:15:35,669 So I know she's, 377 00:15:35,689 --> 00:15:37,186 she's really trying to hurt her 378 00:15:37,206 --> 00:15:40,644 while she's sleeping and she's really vulnerable. 379 00:15:40,664 --> 00:15:44,103 I see her walking behind the woman who lives here, 380 00:15:44,123 --> 00:15:45,152 and putting her hands 381 00:15:45,172 --> 00:15:47,152 on the top of this woman's neck. 382 00:15:47,172 --> 00:15:50,275 This dead woman is making her have bad dreams. 383 00:15:50,295 --> 00:15:51,862 She feels like she's been chased. 384 00:15:52,586 --> 00:15:54,103 She feels like she's in danger. 385 00:15:54,123 --> 00:15:55,689 She feels terrified. 386 00:15:55,709 --> 00:15:57,255 When people are sleeping 387 00:15:57,275 --> 00:15:59,689 she wants people to feel like they can't breathe. 388 00:15:59,709 --> 00:16:01,172 They're suffocating. 389 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,827 She wants people to feel like... 390 00:16:04,758 --> 00:16:06,172 they're burning alive. 391 00:16:06,862 --> 00:16:08,655 She's trying to burn this place down. 392 00:16:16,586 --> 00:16:17,793 We've done a few cases in this area. 393 00:16:17,813 --> 00:16:19,669 So I called on some old contacts 394 00:16:19,689 --> 00:16:22,655 to do some digging on Paula and Stanley's property for me. 395 00:16:22,675 --> 00:16:24,531 I got a call back from a local author. 396 00:16:24,551 --> 00:16:27,172 It turns out one of the early owners of the land 397 00:16:27,192 --> 00:16:29,068 suffered so many tragedies, 398 00:16:29,088 --> 00:16:30,965 it literally drove them mad. 399 00:16:37,482 --> 00:16:39,068 Phyllis, it's good to see you again. 400 00:16:39,088 --> 00:16:40,083 It's good to see you. 401 00:16:40,103 --> 00:16:42,482 All right, so this woman, who was she? 402 00:16:42,502 --> 00:16:45,566 Well, her name was Mary Adeline Barlow. 403 00:16:45,586 --> 00:16:50,635 And she married a local man, named, Penny Hardy in 1862. 404 00:16:50,655 --> 00:16:53,758 All right. So that's in the middle of Civil War. Did this guy serve? 405 00:16:53,778 --> 00:16:57,379 So Penny enlisted about two years after they got married 406 00:16:57,399 --> 00:17:00,896 and served in the Indiana 13th Infantry. 407 00:17:00,916 --> 00:17:02,241 Okay, so how did it go for him? 408 00:17:02,261 --> 00:17:03,465 I mean, did he get injured? 409 00:17:03,485 --> 00:17:04,870 Did he get through it okay? 410 00:17:04,890 --> 00:17:06,255 Well, we're not really sure 411 00:17:06,275 --> 00:17:08,566 but he did get an invalid pension 412 00:17:08,586 --> 00:17:11,000 which seems to indicate that he was either injured 413 00:17:11,020 --> 00:17:13,689 or suffered some sort of health ailment. 414 00:17:13,709 --> 00:17:15,152 Okay, so that would be like 415 00:17:15,172 --> 00:17:16,566 a disability pension today? - Yes. 416 00:17:16,586 --> 00:17:18,378 All right, so now he's back from the war, 417 00:17:18,398 --> 00:17:20,378 did they decide to start a family? 418 00:17:20,398 --> 00:17:22,255 Yeah, they settled in Austin 419 00:17:22,275 --> 00:17:24,172 with the hopes of starting their own family 420 00:17:24,192 --> 00:17:25,982 but unfortunately they weren't able 421 00:17:26,002 --> 00:17:27,887 to have their own biological children. 422 00:17:27,907 --> 00:17:29,773 So, it's just the two of them then? 423 00:17:29,793 --> 00:17:31,862 Well, they ended up adopting three children. 424 00:17:31,882 --> 00:17:33,275 All right, so they can't have kids, 425 00:17:33,295 --> 00:17:34,462 but they make the best of it, 426 00:17:34,482 --> 00:17:36,428 and bring three kids in. 427 00:17:36,448 --> 00:17:38,793 Well, when did they buy my client's property? 428 00:17:38,813 --> 00:17:41,531 They bought that property in 1892. 429 00:17:41,551 --> 00:17:43,793 By that point the children were all grown 430 00:17:43,813 --> 00:17:45,152 and had their own families. 431 00:17:45,172 --> 00:17:47,462 On the phone you said she suffered. 432 00:17:47,482 --> 00:17:49,765 So what kind of tragedies are we talking about? 433 00:17:49,785 --> 00:17:52,068 Well, about six years after they buy the property, 434 00:17:52,088 --> 00:17:55,083 they lose their grandson David. 435 00:17:55,103 --> 00:17:57,524 He was ten years old and he died of tuberculosis. 436 00:17:57,544 --> 00:17:59,965 In fact I have his death certificate right here. 437 00:18:01,034 --> 00:18:03,334 And it turned out too that years later 438 00:18:03,354 --> 00:18:05,635 they lost their oldest daughter, Maggie 439 00:18:05,655 --> 00:18:09,137 when she was 48 years old to that same disease. 440 00:18:09,157 --> 00:18:10,965 And this is her death certificate. 441 00:18:12,689 --> 00:18:14,255 All right, so now they've got a grandson 442 00:18:14,275 --> 00:18:17,344 who's dead from TB and their oldest daughter. - 443 00:18:17,364 --> 00:18:18,965 Things got any belter for them? 444 00:18:18,985 --> 00:18:21,120 No, unfortunately they don't. 445 00:18:21,140 --> 00:18:23,255 Um, in 1912 Mary loses Penny. 446 00:18:23,275 --> 00:18:27,034 He dies at the age of 71, on the property 447 00:18:27,054 --> 00:18:29,172 from what's called acute indigestion 448 00:18:29,192 --> 00:18:31,635 on his death certificate here. 449 00:18:31,655 --> 00:18:34,645 Which is probably more or less a heart attack. 450 00:18:34,665 --> 00:18:37,655 He suffered for about ten hours before he died. 451 00:18:37,675 --> 00:18:38,965 All right, so now Penny is gone, 452 00:18:38,985 --> 00:18:39,911 and we got Mary all alone 453 00:18:39,931 --> 00:18:41,275 'cause the kids are grown and gone. 454 00:18:41,295 --> 00:18:43,324 You had mentioned she went insane? 455 00:18:43,344 --> 00:18:45,566 It just seemed to be a bit too much for her. 456 00:18:45,586 --> 00:18:51,462 - In 1919 Mary's committed to the state insane asylum. - Okay. 457 00:18:51,482 --> 00:18:53,566 And, she lives there for about a year, 458 00:18:53,586 --> 00:18:58,206 and then dies of psychosis and arteriosclerosis. 459 00:18:58,862 --> 00:18:59,773 I guess it all got to her 460 00:18:59,793 --> 00:19:01,507 and that's why she got committed. 461 00:19:01,527 --> 00:19:03,241 I would imagine it was very tough 462 00:19:03,261 --> 00:19:05,241 to be alone at that point. 463 00:19:08,482 --> 00:19:09,738 Something really awful 464 00:19:09,758 --> 00:19:12,517 happened to the angry dead woman in life. 465 00:19:17,275 --> 00:19:19,048 I'm hearing the name Mary, 466 00:19:19,068 --> 00:19:21,359 and she lost her family to a tragedy. 467 00:19:21,379 --> 00:19:24,482 I feel like there's got to be a fire where it wiped out a family. 468 00:19:24,502 --> 00:19:28,172 Like a big fire. A lot of people died in this family. 469 00:19:28,192 --> 00:19:31,862 She wants the people in here to die like her family died. 470 00:19:35,758 --> 00:19:38,241 So I just got a call from local genealogist. 471 00:19:38,261 --> 00:19:41,117 He told me he hit paydirt. 472 00:19:41,137 --> 00:19:43,000 It turns out another former owner 473 00:19:43,020 --> 00:19:44,482 of Paula and Stanley's land 474 00:19:44,502 --> 00:19:45,876 was the only survivor 475 00:19:45,896 --> 00:19:47,965 of a long and bloody family feud. 476 00:19:48,689 --> 00:19:50,241 This I got to hear about. 477 00:19:58,137 --> 00:20:00,586 All right, so John, this guy owned my client's property. 478 00:20:00,606 --> 00:20:02,482 What do we know about him? 479 00:20:02,502 --> 00:20:04,359 His name was Dan Gibson. 480 00:20:04,379 --> 00:20:08,255 He was born in 1911 in Sneedville, Tennessee. 481 00:20:08,275 --> 00:20:10,551 All right, so this feud. What the hell was that all about? 482 00:20:11,172 --> 00:20:13,462 It was an old family feud 483 00:20:13,482 --> 00:20:18,034 across state lines, between the Gibson family and a family called Spurlocks. 484 00:20:18,054 --> 00:20:20,255 It started in Tennessee. 485 00:20:20,275 --> 00:20:22,851 Probably over wanting liquor during Prohibition 486 00:20:22,871 --> 00:20:25,448 and it pretty much decimated both families. 487 00:20:25,468 --> 00:20:26,566 In what way? 488 00:20:26,586 --> 00:20:29,448 In 1930 two of Spurlock boys 489 00:20:30,137 --> 00:20:31,980 came down to Indiana 490 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,103 tracked down Dan Gibson's father 491 00:20:34,123 --> 00:20:36,048 and shot him. 492 00:20:36,068 --> 00:20:37,275 Okay, so they shoot and kill him. 493 00:20:37,295 --> 00:20:38,654 They shot and killed him. 494 00:20:38,674 --> 00:20:40,014 What happens after that? 495 00:20:40,034 --> 00:20:42,758 Well, they went to his funeral. 496 00:20:43,482 --> 00:20:45,575 And they got arrested at his funeral. 497 00:20:45,595 --> 00:20:47,689 And when the trial was supposed to start 498 00:20:47,709 --> 00:20:49,931 four of Patten's children 499 00:20:50,551 --> 00:20:52,248 went to the jail... - Okay. 500 00:20:52,268 --> 00:20:53,945 ...to seek their own justice. 501 00:20:53,965 --> 00:20:56,196 So out of the four kids was the guy Dan 502 00:20:56,216 --> 00:20:58,428 that owns my client's property one of them? 503 00:20:58,448 --> 00:21:02,000 He was. He went into the prison with three of his brothers. 504 00:21:02,020 --> 00:21:04,051 While all that was happening, 505 00:21:04,071 --> 00:21:06,103 Odie, one of the Gibson brothers 506 00:21:06,551 --> 00:21:07,773 got shot and killed. 507 00:21:07,793 --> 00:21:10,172 Okay so Odie is one of the Gibsons and he's killed. 508 00:21:10,192 --> 00:21:12,862 What about our boy Dan and the other brother? 509 00:21:12,882 --> 00:21:15,324 Dan and another brother got away. 510 00:21:15,344 --> 00:21:17,758 Fourth brother that was wounded was arrested on the spot. 511 00:21:17,778 --> 00:21:20,241 All right, so our boy Dan buys my client's property. 512 00:21:20,261 --> 00:21:21,462 When does he do that? 513 00:21:21,482 --> 00:21:24,551 He bought that property when he was 56 years old 514 00:21:24,571 --> 00:21:26,655 and that was in 1967. 515 00:21:27,172 --> 00:21:28,344 Surprised he lived that long. 516 00:21:28,896 --> 00:21:29,876 So am I. 517 00:21:29,896 --> 00:21:31,359 All right, so Dan's 56, 518 00:21:31,379 --> 00:21:32,980 and he's buying my client's property. 519 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,379 I mean is he married, does he have kids, what's the story? 520 00:21:35,399 --> 00:21:38,982 He actually married a woman named Elphaba Bush, 521 00:21:39,002 --> 00:21:42,422 and together they had six children that we know of. 522 00:21:42,442 --> 00:21:45,862 All right, so it's 1967, he's married with six kids. 523 00:21:45,882 --> 00:21:48,224 He survives the feud, right? - Yes, sir. 524 00:21:48,244 --> 00:21:50,586 So how does it go for him at the time? 525 00:21:50,606 --> 00:21:52,275 Not bad for three years. 526 00:21:52,295 --> 00:21:55,221 But then in 1970, 527 00:21:55,241 --> 00:21:58,627 when he turned 59, he had a massive heart attack. 528 00:21:58,647 --> 00:22:02,034 He died within 12 hours having that heart attack. 529 00:22:02,054 --> 00:22:03,635 Okay, so he died a young man. 530 00:22:03,655 --> 00:22:05,610 He did. Here's an article about it. 531 00:22:05,630 --> 00:22:07,566 So here's the guy that survives 532 00:22:07,586 --> 00:22:10,034 the feisty family feud, right? - That's correct. 533 00:22:10,054 --> 00:22:12,172 And dies at an young age of 59. 534 00:22:12,192 --> 00:22:13,669 Painfully dies. 535 00:22:13,689 --> 00:22:17,000 All right so he's dead. I assume Elpha property at this point. 536 00:22:17,020 --> 00:22:18,982 Elpha didn't get the property. 537 00:22:19,002 --> 00:22:20,973 But about a year after he died, 538 00:22:20,993 --> 00:22:22,945 she contracted stomach cancer. 539 00:22:22,965 --> 00:22:26,275 Now she suffered from the stomach cancer for about six years. 540 00:22:26,295 --> 00:22:28,482 When she was getting towards the end of her life 541 00:22:28,502 --> 00:22:30,689 she decided to try to sell part of the property. 542 00:22:30,709 --> 00:22:32,945 And she sells this house 543 00:22:32,965 --> 00:22:34,965 to a family called the Borgers. 544 00:22:34,985 --> 00:22:37,327 When she passed away 545 00:22:37,347 --> 00:22:39,669 there was no clear will. 546 00:22:39,689 --> 00:22:43,793 So this got real messy. Everybody contested ownership. 547 00:22:43,813 --> 00:22:46,241 And it spent ten years in the court. 548 00:22:46,261 --> 00:22:47,738 And finally 549 00:22:47,758 --> 00:22:49,566 it came down that the Borgers 550 00:22:49,586 --> 00:22:51,689 did in fact own this piece of property. 551 00:22:51,709 --> 00:22:53,344 But there's one more twist. 552 00:22:53,896 --> 00:22:54,876 Okay. 553 00:22:54,896 --> 00:22:57,379 Mr. Borger who ended up owning the property 554 00:22:57,399 --> 00:22:59,689 was related to Spurlocks by marriage. 555 00:22:59,709 --> 00:23:01,773 You're joking. - No, sir. 556 00:23:01,793 --> 00:23:04,172 Probably a good thing, Dan was dead at this point. 557 00:23:04,192 --> 00:23:06,310 Probably, yes, or the feud would've started over. 558 00:23:09,172 --> 00:23:12,034 I'm seeing the dead guy who shoves people. 559 00:23:12,054 --> 00:23:14,103 He's having a really hard time breathing. 560 00:23:17,793 --> 00:23:19,152 I'm seeing him coughing. 561 00:23:19,172 --> 00:23:20,551 But I feel like he's choking. 562 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,965 But I feel like he died of heart attack, really. 563 00:23:26,985 --> 00:23:29,137 I keep seeing him grabbing his chest. 564 00:23:30,379 --> 00:23:32,793 And then I see him falling over. 565 00:23:32,813 --> 00:23:34,255 I keep hearing the name 566 00:23:34,275 --> 00:23:37,255 like a Ron or Don or something. 567 00:23:37,275 --> 00:23:39,379 I just feel like he died suddenly. 568 00:23:39,399 --> 00:23:40,669 I keep hearing him saying, 569 00:23:40,689 --> 00:23:42,793 I want my money, I want my money, 570 00:23:42,813 --> 00:23:43,842 I want my money. 571 00:23:43,862 --> 00:23:47,034 So, this is like a family quarrel over money. 572 00:23:47,054 --> 00:23:48,773 He's just really pissed off 573 00:23:48,793 --> 00:23:50,945 about the money and the family will. 574 00:23:50,965 --> 00:23:53,689 He's not leaving until he's paid what he's owed. 575 00:23:53,709 --> 00:23:55,655 This feels really bad. 576 00:23:57,965 --> 00:23:59,462 For more information on the show 577 00:23:59,482 --> 00:24:01,862 and if you need us to investigate any unexplained 578 00:24:01,882 --> 00:24:03,310 paranormal activity in your home... 579 00:24:03,330 --> 00:24:04,758 Please visit... 580 00:24:07,586 --> 00:24:09,000 Click on Help me Dead Files 581 00:24:09,020 --> 00:24:10,152 to submit your story 582 00:24:10,172 --> 00:24:11,517 and we'll help if we can. 583 00:24:16,379 --> 00:24:18,482 So far I've got a client terrified something evil 584 00:24:18,502 --> 00:24:20,773 is out to harm her parents 585 00:24:20,793 --> 00:24:22,842 on a property where the former owner 586 00:24:22,862 --> 00:24:26,551 was involved in a long and bloody family feud. 587 00:24:26,571 --> 00:24:28,310 But I wanna see if there's anything else. 588 00:24:29,551 --> 00:24:31,006 Searching through old records, 589 00:24:31,026 --> 00:24:32,462 I came across an infamous gang 590 00:24:32,482 --> 00:24:34,255 that committed deadly train robberies 591 00:24:34,275 --> 00:24:37,000 on the tracks right behind my client's house. 592 00:24:38,551 --> 00:24:40,462 So, I'm headed back to Paula and Stanley's place 593 00:24:40,482 --> 00:24:42,793 to meet with a local historian who tells me in the end 594 00:24:42,813 --> 00:24:44,603 this violent gang faced justice 595 00:24:44,623 --> 00:24:46,413 but it wasn't from the law. 596 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,000 It was from a pissed off mob. 597 00:24:55,551 --> 00:24:57,793 Well, Bryan, it's good to see you again. - Good to see you. 598 00:24:57,813 --> 00:25:00,068 So this gang, what can you tell me about? 599 00:25:00,586 --> 00:25:01,980 There was the Reno Gang, 600 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,862 and the Reno Gang was probably one the most infamous 601 00:25:04,882 --> 00:25:07,876 train robbers in United States history. 602 00:25:07,896 --> 00:25:11,834 Their reign of terror lasted from about 1864 to 1868. 603 00:25:11,854 --> 00:25:15,793 They would go on to inspire characters, criminals, 604 00:25:15,813 --> 00:25:18,275 like Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, 605 00:25:18,295 --> 00:25:19,428 or Jesse James. 606 00:25:19,448 --> 00:25:20,896 All right you called them the Reno Gang, 607 00:25:20,916 --> 00:25:22,566 who's actually in the gang? 608 00:25:22,586 --> 00:25:25,255 They were basically between ten to 12 guys, 609 00:25:25,275 --> 00:25:29,517 but the main core of them were four brothers. - Okay. 610 00:25:30,241 --> 00:25:32,359 This is Frank Reno. He was the eldest. 611 00:25:32,379 --> 00:25:34,586 He's a hardcore looking guy. - Yes, he is. 612 00:25:34,606 --> 00:25:37,137 And then this is his next brother. 613 00:25:37,157 --> 00:25:38,773 That's John Reno. 614 00:25:38,793 --> 00:25:40,610 Okay, so we got Frank and John. 615 00:25:40,630 --> 00:25:42,428 Who are the other two brothers? 616 00:25:42,448 --> 00:25:44,645 The next one would have been William and Simeon. 617 00:25:44,665 --> 00:25:46,862 So, Bryan, you mentioned they started terrorizing 618 00:25:46,882 --> 00:25:48,724 people in this area, what were they doing? 619 00:25:50,275 --> 00:25:53,482 They robbed the train of about $16,000. 620 00:25:53,502 --> 00:25:54,980 That is like how much now? 621 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,482 Well, that was about $300,000 back then. - Right. 622 00:25:57,502 --> 00:25:59,738 Two of the brothers were arrested. 623 00:25:59,758 --> 00:26:02,689 But one of the witnesses that was on the train, 624 00:26:02,709 --> 00:26:04,462 his name was George Kenny. 625 00:26:04,482 --> 00:26:06,368 Guys from the gang, the Reno Gang, 626 00:26:06,388 --> 00:26:08,275 they knocked on his door and kill him. 627 00:26:08,295 --> 00:26:10,048 So now there's no eyewitness. 628 00:26:10,068 --> 00:26:12,876 So they let him go. - Okay, so... 629 00:26:12,896 --> 00:26:14,896 these guys really knew what they were doing back then. 630 00:26:14,916 --> 00:26:17,221 Like modern-day mafia stuff. - Bingo. 631 00:26:17,241 --> 00:26:19,300 So, Bryan, you'd told me that this robbery took place 632 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,379 right on this line, right behind my client's property. 633 00:26:21,399 --> 00:26:23,275 Yes, right on this line. - Okay. 634 00:26:23,295 --> 00:26:25,359 And then in May of 1868 635 00:26:25,379 --> 00:26:28,048 they decided to pull off the big one, 636 00:26:28,068 --> 00:26:31,965 just two miles from here at a town called Marshfield, 637 00:26:31,985 --> 00:26:34,327 that doesn't exist anymore... - Okay. 638 00:26:34,347 --> 00:26:36,669 ...they decided to rob the express train. 639 00:26:36,689 --> 00:26:39,896 They overpowered the gentleman that was protecting the safes, 640 00:26:39,916 --> 00:26:41,620 his name was Thomas Harkins, 641 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,324 and they knocked him out 642 00:26:43,344 --> 00:26:45,896 and when the train was going 50 miles an hour 643 00:26:45,916 --> 00:26:47,637 they threw him out of train. 644 00:26:47,657 --> 00:26:49,111 I see these guys had no mercy. 645 00:26:49,131 --> 00:26:50,586 They didn't care about nothing. 646 00:26:50,606 --> 00:26:52,068 No mercy at all. 647 00:26:54,034 --> 00:26:55,689 So that's another murder they commit. 648 00:26:55,709 --> 00:26:57,428 That's another one. 649 00:26:57,448 --> 00:27:00,455 All right. So what was the score on this robbery? 650 00:27:00,475 --> 00:27:03,482 Score on this robbery was $96,000. 651 00:27:03,502 --> 00:27:05,275 We don't think a lot about that now 652 00:27:05,295 --> 00:27:07,637 but that is in the millions, 653 00:27:07,657 --> 00:27:09,697 but they decided to get greedy. 654 00:27:09,717 --> 00:27:11,486 So, they were gonna try to take on 655 00:27:11,506 --> 00:27:13,255 another express train. - Okay. 656 00:27:13,275 --> 00:27:15,506 Well, the Pinkerton Detective Agency, 657 00:27:15,526 --> 00:27:17,758 they tracked down one of the gang members 658 00:27:17,778 --> 00:27:19,775 arrested him and he flipped. 659 00:27:19,795 --> 00:27:21,773 Okay. - Decided to tell. 660 00:27:21,793 --> 00:27:23,275 All right, so they got this guy, he flips. 661 00:27:23,295 --> 00:27:24,980 Does it lead to any arrests? 662 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,551 Yes, they ended up arresting all the gang members 663 00:27:27,571 --> 00:27:28,876 except one. 664 00:27:28,896 --> 00:27:31,610 Now you mentioned on the phone that... 665 00:27:31,630 --> 00:27:34,373 they received mob justice. What happened then? 666 00:27:34,393 --> 00:27:37,137 They were over in New Albany, Indiana jail 667 00:27:37,157 --> 00:27:38,945 and 65 members 668 00:27:38,965 --> 00:27:42,162 of the Jackson County Vigilance society 669 00:27:42,182 --> 00:27:45,379 decided to do justice on their own. 670 00:27:45,399 --> 00:27:47,359 They rushed in to the jail, 671 00:27:47,379 --> 00:27:50,793 tortured the sheriff, they shot him to get his keys. 672 00:27:50,813 --> 00:27:53,327 They finally got the keys, tied rope around 673 00:27:53,347 --> 00:27:55,862 Frank, Simeon, William and Charlie Anderson, 674 00:27:55,882 --> 00:27:57,738 threw them over the side and hung them. 675 00:27:57,758 --> 00:28:00,965 Okay, so these guys are hung by vigilantes basically. 676 00:28:00,985 --> 00:28:03,255 That's correct, and as they say 677 00:28:03,275 --> 00:28:06,655 it was "Judge Lynch" that took care of them. 678 00:28:07,551 --> 00:28:10,386 Nobody was ever prosecuted for any of this. 679 00:28:10,406 --> 00:28:13,241 So this vigilante group doing what they did, 680 00:28:13,261 --> 00:28:15,206 they had to be terrified at these guys 681 00:28:15,226 --> 00:28:17,152 and really wanted them dead. - Yes, 682 00:28:17,172 --> 00:28:20,034 for the simple reason they were terrorizing this community. 683 00:28:23,655 --> 00:28:26,255 This house is a portal. 684 00:28:26,275 --> 00:28:29,448 So there's a lot of spirits coming in and out. 685 00:28:29,468 --> 00:28:31,655 It's all the energy from the train tracks 686 00:28:31,675 --> 00:28:33,310 and the train coming through. 687 00:28:33,330 --> 00:28:34,965 It's causing a portal to open up 688 00:28:34,985 --> 00:28:36,531 and affect this family. 689 00:28:36,551 --> 00:28:39,137 Spirits, they're like walking into the house. 690 00:28:39,157 --> 00:28:40,965 It's like a free-for-all. 691 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,241 A lot of them are random. It's not safe. 692 00:28:45,793 --> 00:28:46,876 Do they just come and go? 693 00:28:46,896 --> 00:28:49,172 Some of them come and go. Some of them get stuck. 694 00:28:49,192 --> 00:28:50,255 And the ones that get stuck, 695 00:28:50,275 --> 00:28:51,862 they're creating a problem in the house. 696 00:28:59,379 --> 00:29:01,862 I saw a lot of terrible things in my walk. 697 00:29:01,882 --> 00:29:04,048 But two had me very concerned. 698 00:29:04,068 --> 00:29:06,551 First the portal bringing dead people into the house. 699 00:29:07,379 --> 00:29:10,241 I saw a portal literally coming 700 00:29:10,261 --> 00:29:11,669 from the train tracks, 701 00:29:11,689 --> 00:29:14,793 where the spirits were coming out of the tracks 702 00:29:14,813 --> 00:29:16,827 and walking into the house. 703 00:29:17,965 --> 00:29:22,862 Like all different ages, heights, different time periods, 704 00:29:22,882 --> 00:29:25,068 but they look more like shadows. 705 00:29:25,482 --> 00:29:26,738 How is this? 706 00:29:26,758 --> 00:29:27,842 Yeah, that looks pretty good. 707 00:29:27,862 --> 00:29:30,214 Maybe just add a few more people. 708 00:29:30,234 --> 00:29:32,586 Next, I describe the angry dead woman 709 00:29:32,606 --> 00:29:34,655 attacking a living woman in bed. 710 00:29:35,275 --> 00:29:37,669 This dead woman leaves bruises 711 00:29:37,689 --> 00:29:41,206 on the living woman's arm and body. 712 00:29:42,034 --> 00:29:43,842 She's asleep but it's like 713 00:29:43,862 --> 00:29:45,379 she's having a really bad nightmare. 714 00:29:45,399 --> 00:29:46,655 That's how I draw her. 715 00:29:51,586 --> 00:29:53,068 Cindy, is that what you saw? 716 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,517 That's exactly what I saw. 717 00:30:07,862 --> 00:30:11,068 Now that Cindy and I have completed our investigations, 718 00:30:11,088 --> 00:30:13,655 we are ready to reveal our findings to each other 719 00:30:13,675 --> 00:30:16,068 and our clients for the first time. 720 00:30:16,088 --> 00:30:17,758 So, Cindy, I want you to meet 721 00:30:17,778 --> 00:30:20,000 Paula and Stanley. 722 00:30:20,793 --> 00:30:22,551 This is their daughter Paula Jr., 723 00:30:22,571 --> 00:30:23,669 who lives nearby. 724 00:30:23,689 --> 00:30:25,876 She's actually the one who called us in, 725 00:30:25,896 --> 00:30:28,137 because she was worried sick about her parents. 726 00:30:28,157 --> 00:30:30,586 These guys are desperate for a solution 727 00:30:30,606 --> 00:30:32,428 so they can get their lives back. 728 00:30:32,448 --> 00:30:34,482 So unless Cindy has some questions for you, 729 00:30:34,502 --> 00:30:35,827 she'll tell us about her walk. 730 00:30:39,793 --> 00:30:41,482 So the first thing I wanna talk about is 731 00:30:41,502 --> 00:30:43,931 a dead guy who's very present 732 00:30:44,379 --> 00:30:45,359 in your home. 733 00:30:45,379 --> 00:30:47,103 He spends a lot of time in the living room 734 00:30:47,123 --> 00:30:48,741 and in the kitchen. 735 00:30:48,761 --> 00:30:50,267 He's a really big guy. 736 00:30:50,287 --> 00:30:52,219 He wears big heavy boots, 737 00:30:52,239 --> 00:30:54,152 so you should hear footsteps. 738 00:30:54,172 --> 00:30:56,172 And he gets really close to people 739 00:30:56,192 --> 00:30:58,117 and tries to intimidate them. 740 00:30:58,137 --> 00:31:00,689 And I also saw him shoving someone 741 00:31:00,709 --> 00:31:02,206 in the kitchen area. 742 00:31:03,275 --> 00:31:05,980 So one of the stuff she just said, 743 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,241 we didn't talk about but I saw you guys nodding your heads. 744 00:31:08,261 --> 00:31:11,724 Yes, sir, earlier today she was in the shower 745 00:31:12,551 --> 00:31:14,152 and I was sittin' on the couch 746 00:31:14,172 --> 00:31:17,379 and I hear her hollerin' for me to come back there. 747 00:31:17,399 --> 00:31:20,324 She just got shoved in shower. 748 00:31:20,344 --> 00:31:22,000 I just fell completely fell out of tub. 749 00:31:22,020 --> 00:31:23,655 I had to grab hold of the wall. 750 00:31:24,758 --> 00:31:26,172 All right, you're okay, though? 751 00:31:26,896 --> 00:31:27,980 It hurt my leg. 752 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,344 I'm sorry to hear that. 753 00:31:30,137 --> 00:31:31,462 Right. Any idea who this guy 754 00:31:31,482 --> 00:31:33,034 might have been when he was alive? 755 00:31:33,054 --> 00:31:34,965 I got the name Ron or Don. 756 00:31:35,379 --> 00:31:36,566 I saw his death. 757 00:31:36,586 --> 00:31:37,876 I saw that he couldn't breathe. 758 00:31:37,896 --> 00:31:40,679 He grabbed his chest and then he fell over. 759 00:31:40,699 --> 00:31:43,482 So, I really think he died from heart attack, 760 00:31:43,502 --> 00:31:46,172 and he's super fixated on money. 761 00:31:47,103 --> 00:31:49,965 So there's something to do with the family will. 762 00:31:49,985 --> 00:31:51,255 He wants to move on 763 00:31:51,275 --> 00:31:52,980 but he's not gonna do it 764 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,127 until he gets what he thinks he's owed. 765 00:31:55,147 --> 00:31:57,235 Definitely makes me think of somebody 766 00:31:57,255 --> 00:31:59,324 I came across during my research. 767 00:31:59,344 --> 00:32:02,230 There was a former owner named Dan Gibson 768 00:32:02,250 --> 00:32:05,117 who was born in 1911 to a large family. 769 00:32:05,137 --> 00:32:08,275 His family the Gibsons were in a violent feud, 770 00:32:08,295 --> 00:32:10,379 here in Indiana, with another family 771 00:32:10,399 --> 00:32:12,014 called the Spurlocks. 772 00:32:12,034 --> 00:32:15,172 His dad and at least one of his brothers 773 00:32:15,192 --> 00:32:17,945 died in the feud from gunshots. 774 00:32:17,965 --> 00:32:20,635 Now Gibson bought your land in 1967. 775 00:32:20,655 --> 00:32:23,007 Three years later he dropped dead of a... 776 00:32:23,027 --> 00:32:25,379 A heart attack? - ...of a heart attack. 777 00:32:25,399 --> 00:32:26,842 Wow. 778 00:32:26,862 --> 00:32:28,048 Now you said the guy's pissed off 779 00:32:28,068 --> 00:32:29,862 about the money and the family will, right? - 780 00:32:29,882 --> 00:32:31,965 Okay. So after he died his kids... 781 00:32:32,655 --> 00:32:34,531 ended up in a long court battle 782 00:32:34,551 --> 00:32:37,000 with another family fighting over the property. 783 00:32:37,020 --> 00:32:38,876 And here's the kick in the ass. 784 00:32:38,896 --> 00:32:40,482 The other family they were fighting with 785 00:32:40,502 --> 00:32:42,241 over the land was related to... 786 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,172 the Spurlocks. 787 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,344 Could Dan be the guy you might have seen? 788 00:32:48,364 --> 00:32:50,980 I mean, yeah, the fact that, 789 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,255 I felt the heart attack in the house, 790 00:32:53,275 --> 00:32:54,551 he's pissed about money... - Yeah. 791 00:32:54,571 --> 00:32:55,851 ...it all make sense. 792 00:32:56,379 --> 00:32:57,620 What's the matter, honey? 793 00:32:58,586 --> 00:33:00,241 I've also had a, um... 794 00:33:01,068 --> 00:33:03,006 really vivid dream 795 00:33:03,026 --> 00:33:04,965 of my oldest brother 796 00:33:05,482 --> 00:33:06,551 shooting me 797 00:33:07,586 --> 00:33:09,551 over... a house. 798 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,241 Really? - Yeah. 799 00:33:12,551 --> 00:33:15,403 I feel like your dream could be related 800 00:33:15,423 --> 00:33:17,839 to what this man's family experienced. 801 00:33:17,859 --> 00:33:20,643 I think that you're really sensitive 802 00:33:20,663 --> 00:33:23,448 and I think that that dream was maybe 803 00:33:23,468 --> 00:33:24,738 Dan's communicating with you 804 00:33:24,758 --> 00:33:26,827 something about what happened to his family. 805 00:33:28,172 --> 00:33:30,344 You're glad you're not living here anymore, right? 806 00:33:30,364 --> 00:33:31,541 Yeah. 807 00:33:33,241 --> 00:33:34,669 So what else? 808 00:33:34,689 --> 00:33:36,896 So when I walked into the garage, 809 00:33:36,916 --> 00:33:38,876 I saw a living woman. 810 00:33:38,896 --> 00:33:41,379 She had blond hair, and she looked to be in her 40s. 811 00:33:41,399 --> 00:33:43,775 She was crying and extremely upset. 812 00:33:43,795 --> 00:33:46,172 And I felt that she wanted to escape 813 00:33:46,192 --> 00:33:47,842 but she couldn't leave. 814 00:33:47,862 --> 00:33:50,241 And I also saw a father and a son. 815 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,738 But the son as a teenager 816 00:33:52,758 --> 00:33:54,955 and the father and the son were fighting. 817 00:33:54,975 --> 00:33:57,172 And I feel like this aggressive behavior, 818 00:33:57,192 --> 00:33:59,000 the fighting, it's really causing 819 00:33:59,020 --> 00:34:00,462 division in your family, 820 00:34:00,482 --> 00:34:02,448 and it's tearing your family apart. 821 00:34:03,448 --> 00:34:05,172 You know Cindy, the main reason Paula 822 00:34:05,192 --> 00:34:07,359 Junior here called us in, 823 00:34:07,379 --> 00:34:09,662 these guys have been married for 35 years, 824 00:34:09,682 --> 00:34:11,965 but they've been fighting so badly they, 825 00:34:11,985 --> 00:34:13,103 they're talking about breaking up. 826 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,275 A certain bang or a certain word 827 00:34:16,295 --> 00:34:18,048 and I'm snappin'. 828 00:34:18,068 --> 00:34:19,773 I know what I say her... 829 00:34:19,793 --> 00:34:22,334 I'll do harsh stuff, you know, toward her. 830 00:34:22,354 --> 00:34:24,896 She mentioned about fighting with a teenager. 831 00:34:24,916 --> 00:34:27,000 That, that ring anything for you? 832 00:34:27,020 --> 00:34:29,500 Me and my son. - Okay. 833 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,000 We've had some harsh words. 834 00:34:32,020 --> 00:34:33,876 Some harsh arguments. 835 00:34:33,896 --> 00:34:37,793 All this fighting is fueling a major issue in this house. 836 00:34:37,813 --> 00:34:39,655 And that's poltergeist activity. 837 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,938 It's especially intense in the garage. 838 00:34:43,958 --> 00:34:46,896 Things with electronics stop working, 839 00:34:46,916 --> 00:34:48,620 or, or they malfunction. 840 00:34:49,034 --> 00:34:50,655 Things start turning on. 841 00:34:51,655 --> 00:34:53,851 I know we've like a lot of tools and stuff in here 842 00:34:53,871 --> 00:34:56,068 but I feel like it's actually kind of dangerous, 843 00:34:56,088 --> 00:34:57,344 like things might go flying. 844 00:34:58,172 --> 00:35:00,482 A hammer come flying across the garage. 845 00:35:00,502 --> 00:35:02,462 It was about eight foot, 846 00:35:02,482 --> 00:35:05,359 and it come down about a foot from hitting. 847 00:35:05,379 --> 00:35:08,172 That's terrifying. - Yeah. Tell her about your car. 848 00:35:08,192 --> 00:35:12,000 The stereo and the wipers would come on, 849 00:35:12,020 --> 00:35:13,945 without a key. 850 00:35:13,965 --> 00:35:16,827 I'm working on cars since I'm 16 year old. - Yeah. 851 00:35:17,655 --> 00:35:21,137 And never had I had an issue with anything. 852 00:35:21,157 --> 00:35:23,965 Paula, you gotta tell about the glass. 853 00:35:23,985 --> 00:35:26,793 Yeah, we were in the, dining room 854 00:35:26,813 --> 00:35:28,945 and we heard a crash 855 00:35:28,965 --> 00:35:31,758 and I had a dish strainer sitting on the sink 856 00:35:31,778 --> 00:35:33,566 and I just had a glass in it 857 00:35:33,586 --> 00:35:35,127 and that glass literally come out 858 00:35:35,147 --> 00:35:37,149 over the top of the dish strainer 859 00:35:37,169 --> 00:35:39,172 and went into the sink and shattered. 860 00:35:39,793 --> 00:35:41,083 What is really fueling 861 00:35:41,103 --> 00:35:43,282 your poltergeist activity tha... 862 00:35:43,302 --> 00:35:45,462 the most right now is all the fighting. 863 00:35:45,482 --> 00:35:47,758 So you guys are causing it. You don't even realize it. 864 00:35:48,586 --> 00:35:49,758 Definitely. 865 00:35:52,758 --> 00:35:53,862 What else? 866 00:35:54,448 --> 00:35:57,117 You have another major issue. 867 00:35:57,137 --> 00:36:00,448 There's a portal leading directly 868 00:36:00,468 --> 00:36:02,137 from the railroad track 869 00:36:02,793 --> 00:36:05,655 into the backdoor of your house. 870 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,206 Wow. 871 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,655 And I had a sketch done of what I saw. 872 00:36:17,551 --> 00:36:18,965 Wow, look at this. 873 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,000 My goodness. 874 00:36:27,482 --> 00:36:29,437 I mean that, that really, 875 00:36:29,457 --> 00:36:31,413 that really, really bothers me. 876 00:36:32,379 --> 00:36:35,275 One of the dead that came to this portal 877 00:36:35,295 --> 00:36:37,462 is an older dead woman. 878 00:36:37,482 --> 00:36:38,896 She ended up staying in the house. 879 00:36:38,916 --> 00:36:41,980 And she's a very big problem. 880 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,162 When people are sleeping she makes them feel like 881 00:36:44,182 --> 00:36:46,344 they can't breathe, like, they're suffocating. 882 00:36:46,364 --> 00:36:47,980 She's very focused 883 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,758 on the living woman in the house. 884 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,551 She hates you. 885 00:36:55,275 --> 00:36:57,965 You had a woman that you saw in your bedroom. 886 00:36:58,896 --> 00:37:00,127 Tell Cindy about her. 887 00:37:00,147 --> 00:37:01,359 Someone woke me up. 888 00:37:01,379 --> 00:37:03,317 I sat up in the bed and there was a woman 889 00:37:03,337 --> 00:37:05,275 standing right at the foot of the bed 890 00:37:05,295 --> 00:37:06,738 and she had ahold of the curtain 891 00:37:06,758 --> 00:37:09,428 and she was just jerking real hard on the curtain. 892 00:37:09,448 --> 00:37:11,896 I saw her standing over your bed while you are sleeping, 893 00:37:11,916 --> 00:37:14,152 while you're really vulnerable. 894 00:37:14,172 --> 00:37:15,931 So I had it sketched on a board what I saw. 895 00:37:23,103 --> 00:37:24,448 I don't even know if I wanna show you this. 896 00:37:30,689 --> 00:37:31,862 Wow. 897 00:37:33,586 --> 00:37:35,655 It's very scary. 898 00:37:37,103 --> 00:37:39,241 As when you're on bed you're all sleeping 899 00:37:39,261 --> 00:37:40,531 that should be, you know... 900 00:37:40,551 --> 00:37:41,793 Right. - ...pretty well your time, 901 00:37:41,813 --> 00:37:43,551 I mean, I don't know what to think. 902 00:37:45,940 --> 00:37:47,172 I'm too, luv. 903 00:37:48,482 --> 00:37:50,379 Paula, tell her about you waking up with bruises. 904 00:37:50,399 --> 00:37:53,655 I woke up several times with bruises, um, 905 00:37:53,675 --> 00:37:56,655 on my chest, on my legs, on my arms. 906 00:37:56,675 --> 00:37:58,152 And there has been a few times 907 00:37:58,172 --> 00:38:00,689 that looks like someone just literally took the hand 908 00:38:00,709 --> 00:38:02,324 and just putting it around my arm 909 00:38:02,344 --> 00:38:04,379 and then you can actually see the fingerprints. 910 00:38:04,399 --> 00:38:06,189 And you had the same issue, right, 911 00:38:06,209 --> 00:38:08,000 when you go to your mom's house? 912 00:38:08,020 --> 00:38:10,428 I was just have a visit and 913 00:38:10,448 --> 00:38:12,862 I started noticing a little bit of pain on my knee. 914 00:38:12,882 --> 00:38:15,876 When we came home I had a bruise on my knee. 915 00:38:15,896 --> 00:38:19,172 You've seen it. Tell her about the scratches that your wife gets. 916 00:38:19,192 --> 00:38:20,758 She's woke up 917 00:38:20,778 --> 00:38:22,014 many of a morning, 918 00:38:22,034 --> 00:38:26,359 and she's had scratches across her chest. 919 00:38:26,379 --> 00:38:30,221 I hate to say this but she, she wants you dead. 920 00:38:30,241 --> 00:38:33,103 She also wants people to feel like they're burning alive. 921 00:38:33,896 --> 00:38:36,034 And she wants to burn the house down. 922 00:38:36,054 --> 00:38:37,241 Wow. 923 00:38:38,068 --> 00:38:39,669 Paula, tell Cindy what happened 924 00:38:39,689 --> 00:38:41,945 when the water heater caught on fire. 925 00:38:41,965 --> 00:38:44,689 If it wasn't for me looking down the hallway 926 00:38:44,709 --> 00:38:46,014 and seeing the smoke, 927 00:38:46,034 --> 00:38:48,413 I could have possibly died in the home. 928 00:38:49,172 --> 00:38:50,965 When the fire department showed up 929 00:38:51,896 --> 00:38:54,462 they just couldn't figure out how it happened. 930 00:38:54,482 --> 00:38:58,241 This woman, when I was feeling her presence in the house, 931 00:38:58,261 --> 00:39:02,310 she was telling me that her family died in a fire. 932 00:39:02,965 --> 00:39:05,428 Unfortunately it wants 933 00:39:05,448 --> 00:39:08,255 another family to feel her pain. 934 00:39:08,275 --> 00:39:11,368 I dreamt about the trailer catching on fire and burn. 935 00:39:11,388 --> 00:39:14,482 A few times I've dreamt about it catching on fire 936 00:39:14,502 --> 00:39:17,172 and me and him... dying in it. 937 00:39:17,192 --> 00:39:19,862 I've dreamt my daughter dying in it. 938 00:39:20,689 --> 00:39:23,738 That's a dream I get a lot, a whole lot. 939 00:39:23,758 --> 00:39:27,275 I feel like this woman is giving you those dreams. 940 00:39:27,295 --> 00:39:29,379 I mean, unfortunately it's like she's stuck 941 00:39:29,399 --> 00:39:32,000 in this loop of, of anger and grief. 942 00:39:32,020 --> 00:39:33,551 I don't know, it's very... 943 00:39:34,379 --> 00:39:36,359 It's very scary, right? 944 00:39:36,379 --> 00:39:38,000 I just don't know what I did to her. 945 00:39:38,020 --> 00:39:39,344 You didn't do anything to her. 946 00:39:39,364 --> 00:39:40,669 You didn't do anything to her. 947 00:39:40,689 --> 00:39:42,379 It's really scary when someone tells you 948 00:39:42,399 --> 00:39:44,241 that somebody wants you dead. 949 00:39:54,620 --> 00:39:56,179 Now, Paula, you're a good daughter. 950 00:39:56,199 --> 00:39:57,758 It's a good thing you reached out to us. 951 00:39:57,778 --> 00:39:59,014 'Cause you're right. 952 00:39:59,034 --> 00:40:01,793 Your parents have big problems at that house. 953 00:40:01,813 --> 00:40:03,137 Question is, can it be fixed? 954 00:40:04,896 --> 00:40:07,586 Now for that answer I'm gonna turn it over to my partner, Cindy. 955 00:40:09,655 --> 00:40:12,103 First things first, that portal has got to be closed. 956 00:40:12,123 --> 00:40:14,566 Because if the portal is not closed 957 00:40:14,586 --> 00:40:17,773 spirits will be coming and going... forever. 958 00:40:17,793 --> 00:40:20,310 So, I want you to bring in a medium to close the portal. 959 00:40:20,896 --> 00:40:22,876 Secondly, Dan. 960 00:40:22,896 --> 00:40:25,575 So, Dan's a problem because 961 00:40:25,595 --> 00:40:28,275 he's obviously aggressive. 962 00:40:28,295 --> 00:40:29,669 You could feel him. 963 00:40:29,689 --> 00:40:31,679 He's making you feel afraid. 964 00:40:31,699 --> 00:40:33,873 He could be feeling your temper. 965 00:40:33,893 --> 00:40:35,833 And what that's doing is increasing 966 00:40:35,853 --> 00:40:37,793 the poltergeist activity in the house. 967 00:40:37,813 --> 00:40:40,137 The same medium will move him on. 968 00:40:40,157 --> 00:40:41,876 And obviously 969 00:40:41,896 --> 00:40:43,221 the most dangerous spirit 970 00:40:43,241 --> 00:40:47,000 we have, is the woman who is attacking you. 971 00:40:47,020 --> 00:40:49,083 I think she might be 972 00:40:49,103 --> 00:40:51,068 a little bit more difficult to get rid of. 973 00:40:53,206 --> 00:40:55,186 The same medium will move her on 974 00:40:55,206 --> 00:40:57,689 but I really don't think you should stay in the house 975 00:40:57,709 --> 00:40:59,603 when the medium tries to get rid of her. 976 00:40:59,623 --> 00:41:01,517 You'll need to stay at your daughter's. 977 00:41:01,537 --> 00:41:02,531 Okay. 978 00:41:02,551 --> 00:41:04,989 Once they get out, once these spirits get out 979 00:41:05,009 --> 00:41:07,448 and portal's closed these fighting's should stop. 980 00:41:07,468 --> 00:41:09,324 I feel like it, it will. 981 00:41:09,344 --> 00:41:12,413 And without all that anger the poltergeist activity will slow down. 982 00:41:12,433 --> 00:41:13,724 Yeah, I think so. 983 00:41:14,413 --> 00:41:15,679 This is good news, guys. 984 00:41:15,699 --> 00:41:16,965 Yes. - Yes, sir, it is. 985 00:41:18,344 --> 00:41:19,359 You're glad you called? 986 00:41:19,379 --> 00:41:21,265 Yeah, I'm... I'm really glad I called. 987 00:41:21,285 --> 00:41:23,172 And you got a good daughter there. 988 00:41:23,192 --> 00:41:25,600 Yes, we have. 989 00:41:25,620 --> 00:41:27,655 I'm really glad that this has happened, 990 00:41:27,675 --> 00:41:28,945 you know, get some answers 991 00:41:28,965 --> 00:41:31,068 and hopefully some closure to this. 992 00:41:31,689 --> 00:41:33,386 And to know, you know, that 993 00:41:33,406 --> 00:41:35,083 I wouldn't go on crazy, 994 00:41:35,103 --> 00:41:38,034 or we're not going crazy. - No. No. 995 00:41:38,054 --> 00:41:40,310 Our love, you know, it still strong. 996 00:41:44,034 --> 00:41:45,186 Paula and Stanley 997 00:41:45,206 --> 00:41:46,758 have a lot of work ahead of them, 998 00:41:46,778 --> 00:41:48,014 but I'm really glad 999 00:41:48,034 --> 00:41:50,172 they'll be able to stay in their home. 1000 00:41:50,192 --> 00:41:51,945 As long as they contact a medium 1001 00:41:51,965 --> 00:41:54,324 to remove the dead and close the portal 1002 00:41:54,344 --> 00:41:57,758 they should go back to living a happy and peaceful life. 74828

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