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- Tonight,

- Tonight, the dramatic conclusion

of the "Southern Charm" reunion.

- ...I'll just be true to myself.

- ...and it's not a good example,

especially for a mother, to be setting.

- What is the status of your relationship?

- We're not together.

- You're not friends with benefits?

- [sighs, chuckles] I didn't say that, Andy.

- Austen calls me, crying, because you're posting

a picture with, like, three Italian guys,

saying, "Austen who? Bye, boy."

And you're, like, all up like this on them.

- Jason has told me to shut the (BLEEP) up before,

and you know what, I shut the (BLEEP) up.

- You started a bunch of sh--.

- I started nothing. You reached out to my boyfriend.

- You may not like the subject that I'm bringing up.

- Sorry. - It's all right.

You had to know that saying that she's white trash

was gonna get you labeled elitist.

- There's a little bit of snobbery in me somewhere.

- You called me white trash too.

- You were acting trashy.

- That's pretty harsh to say "trash" to someone.

- Five, four, three, two...

- The "Southern Charm" reunion continues now.

- ♪ Mm-hmm ♪

- Welcome back to the "Southern Charm" reunion.

I'm your host, Andy Cohen.

Before we get back to you, Kathryn,

I just wanna welcome your BFF, Danni.

It's great to see you. - Good to be here.

- Okay, Kathryn,

let's go back to your sobriety.

- Kathryn, I mean,

what you did on "Watch What Happens" was ridiculous.

- What--what?

- The things that you said, and, like, about people.

- You're, like, that upset? Jesus.

- Kathryn, fans accused you

of being in another state

on your last appearance on "Watch What Happens Live."

Austen, did you see the show?

- I did. - What'd you think?

- I was very disappointed,

because I tweeted in...

- We got a tweet from Austen during the break.

- [chuckles] Who?

- And I was like, "Girl's not even present."

- Okay, Austen.

But don't ever think for a ----ing second

you're gonna come after me and my sobriety.

You better back the (BLEEP) up.

[dramatic music]

- Kathryn, like, you getting so aggressive

with Austen just now, and I wasn't gonna say this,

but somebody there saw you drinking before the show...

- Yeah, there were multiple people there...

- And texted all of--I mean... - That texted lots of us.

- That's bullsh--. Who--who?

- A mutual friend of mine and Cameran's.

- That's bullsh--.

- Were you drinking that night? - No.

Like, I would tell you if I did, 'cause I can drink.

- But nobody is coming for your sobriety,

but at the same time, you have to be honest about--

- But I'm being honest. - But none of us--

We were under the impression that your sobriety was,

you were not drinking. - From weed.

- Yeah, everyone felt like they had to cover for you all year.

No one knew if you were allowed to drink or not.

You know, we'd be asked about it,

and we wouldn't say it, because we were like,

"Well, sh--, it's not on me to say anything."

So, we just said, "No" for the last six months.

- And this is a conversation, interestingly.

It's come up at several reunions,

where you have felt like people are against you,

and they've kind of said the opposite.

- Yeah, no, we had your back all year.

- We've protected you a lot more than you ever know,

and that's what I think we're trying to say.

- All right.

Kathryn, you planned a girls' trip to the Treehouses.

but then you went MIA in the days leading up to the trip.

And we got a lot of comments about the Treehouse dinner.

"Dang, Danni, Kathryn is a grown woman.

"You're not her mom. She seems testy.

Maybe it's because you're crowding her."

- You haven't been held accountable

for just, like, day-to-day.

Be to work at time. Meet me here at 5:00.

That doesn't mean 6:00.

- Danni, what did you mean when you said

she's never held accountable for her actions?

- Kathryn gets a lot of passes, especially from me.

With this girls' trip, like, I really wanted her

to be able to have valid reasons

as to why she, like, wasn't responding.

And it can be perceived as

being a little, like, obnoxious or irresponsible.

- I think that everyone made a bigger deal out of it

than it actually was.

- If your good friend is trying to get ahold of you

and is worried about you,

why are you getting defensive about her asking...

- I'm not defensive about it at all. Like, I--

- No, but you were defensive about it.

- I'm used to my phone ringing,

and it being either Thomas, my lawyer,

or getting news about something else that's not good.

- But you cannot alienate other people in your life,

who do not have ill intentions for you,

just because you're going through that.

- No, I don't alienate people...

- I don't think she's doing that.

I think she puts her phone away.

- I talk to my friends, my actual friends.

- So, I shouldn't expect a response back,

because we're not real friends?

- Y'all, I don't know what to say for myself, to be honest.

- But it's okay. Like, you've got sh-- going on.

But just say, "Hey, I'm busy. I can't talk to you."

- Thomas is gonna bring this up in court,

just so everyone knows.

- Why? - Bring what up?

- This--everything that's being said, like, about accountability

and being on time.

- Texting your friends back?

- No, not being good with communication.

- So, shouldn't that motivate you

to be better at communication?

- I'm trying my best, but it's focused on my kids.

- But, like, that's why no one can ever really say anything,

because we don't wanna get in the way

of your custody and all that.

But how can you not texting your friends back,

or you not being, you know, as good a friend

as you should be, get in the way of that?

- I can't be right now, honestly,

a great friend to, like, really anyone.

- That's not what I expect from you, though.

- If you know how it makes people feel, then--

- I know, but see, then, when it's more than one person,

I feel like overwhelmed by, like, the shame of all of that.

- I'm not saying you need to be the best friend to all of us.

It's just the bare, bare minimum.

- I think that it's unfair that it looks--

it's all being portrayed like

I'm this terrible friend all the time.

- Do you think it's an unfair representation

of your friendship?

- I think we have a very unique friendship.

I can depend on Kathryn not all the time.

But then, like, recently with Madison,

and, like, hanging out with her a little bit...

- You told me straight up that it was fine.

- Why? Have you been hanging out with Madison a lot?

- Our kids played,

because Hudson's the same age as Kensie.

- Austen, you're shaking your head.

- Kathryn... - What?

- I don't even know, like, where to begin on all this.

- Please begin. - Start at the beginning.

- I--I--I mean, no,

you didn't just, like, go and hang out with her,

like, one time, because your kids are the same age.

- I didn't say just one time. - Okay.

- They're the same age. And my mother is sick.

- So, you have been hanging out with her?

- I needed supervision for my visitation.

- That's--that's truth--oh... - That is a personal matter

that I'm not allowed to discuss.

- So, I had done it before, and then Madison did it after.

- You need supervised visitation, and Madison did--

- I did. It was two weekends, yes.

- I just feel like... - You feel like what?

- This--this friendship,

Kathryn is playing both sides.

Playing the fence is not

being a friend to anybody. - I'm not playing the fence.

- You've become good friends with her.

- Not good friends, we just--I mean, really...

- But it seems like it. - But you asked her

if she'd supervise your children, Kathryn.

What do you mean?

- Y'all, I can only handle one thing at a time, okay?

- Like, that is not like, "Oh..."

Don't downplay your friendship.

- That's because I have no one else.

- She had to have specific people that Thomas approved.

- But don't downplay your friendship with someone.

I mean, that was a big deal.

- So, Thomas approved her to supervise?

- I genuinely thought you were okay

with the fact that she and I were decent.

I connect to her on the level that we are young moms,

and I don't want that to, like, ever affect our friendship.

- Girl, do your thing.

That was way before she did about 15 other things.

- You shouldn't even have to ask Danni, in my opinion,

"Hey, is this okay?"

You should just be like, "I know that it's not okay,

"because this would bother my dear, dear friend,

who's been there for me through thick and thin."

- All I know is, like, I'm in the middle of this.

It's a hard place to be.

I love Danni.

She is, like, my best friend.

This is way more complicated.

And, in my mind,

I just don't want Madison to feel like how I felt,

whenever no one would talk to me

and no one would do these things.

- She's put herself there.

- But, people, it's their own actions.

- You didn't do anything. - Yeah.

- Madison's only in that position,

because she did some horrible sh--.

- I know, I know that. - Terrible, terrible things.

- I just feel like-- I feel like Madison

can be pretty manipulative.

I guess with Danni, it's like...

- It seemed like a slap in the face to Danni.

- Yeah, it's hard to see you with the girl

that caused her so much pain. - Do you understand

why it could seem like a slap in the face?

- I do. Absolutely, absolutely.

- What she's saying is,

she didn't realize that it was going to go,

in her mind, to the level that it has.

- Like, it's almost like Madison

is manipulating you or using you

to hurt Danni, or, like, that you're afraid of her,

so your kind of keeping your enemies closer to you,

like, something like that.

- I mean, do you guys think for one second

that Madison was like, "Please come over

and let me watch your kids this weekend"?

Like, you aren't just, like, "Oh, whatever friend with her."

Like, and if you like her, then, like admit it. It's fine.

- I do, like, enjoy hanging out with her.

She makes me laugh. - Okay.

- She'll be out in a minute.

All right, we're going to leave it there and take a break.

We'll be right back.

Coming up...

- Someone was like, "I don't understand

why you're not with Chelsea," and you were like,

"I need someone with sex drive."

- Welcome back to

- Welcome back to the "Southern Charm" reunion.

Fresh off a family scandal,

Eliza wasted no time

getting back in the saddle of society.

Hey, Eliza. Great to see you. - Hello.

- When you were on the show two years ago,

it was right when the news of your father's affair

had just come out.

That must have been your hardest time.

- Yeah, I don't like to talk about it.

It's gonna make me start tearing up.

But, um--[chuckles]

- Craig's giving you a special one.

- Yeah. Thanks, Craig.

Um, yeah, it wasn't fun, just 'cause we're so close,

and I felt like--sorry--[sobs]--

I felt really, like, unwanted

and uncomfortable everywhere I went.

Sorry. - It's all right.

I'll change the subject a little bit.

- Okay. [laughs]

Talk about something funny. - Okay.

You may not like the subject that I'm bringing up.

- I have a feeling I know what the next one is.

- At your debut at Patricia's dinner party,

viewers thought that you were like a bull in a china shop.

- I'm sorry I'm young and hot and just graduated college.

I don't have any problems with Ashley...

- Yeah. - Thomas is like family to me.

Cam will give her eggs.

Kathryn can be the surrogate.

- Did you mean harm by that comment?

- No. Oh, God.

- I know Eliza, and she is a harmless, sweet person,

but her social awareness can be very, very lacking.

- I'm also 23, so--[chuckles] - She's learning.

- You talk too much sometimes.

That's about it. - We're working on that.

- I talk when I get nervous.

- Do you think you were unfairly judged,

because of your family's relationship with Thomas?

- You know, people, before they even know me,

like, don't like me, 'cause of the family I come from,

so, that's something I've had to, like, learn

that I can't control, you know?

- Eliza, your relationship with Thomas's ex, Ashley,

got everyone's head spinning.

Connie from Houston said,

"Eliza, please tell me what you see in Ashley

that the rest of the world does not."

- I see the good in everybody that I welcome into my life.

And she didn't hurt me,

so why am I gonna be mean to her?

- Viewers are still trying to understand

why you invited Ashley to the skeet shoot.

Did you think she'd be able to mend her relationships

at that lunch?

- Well, so, here's the thing,

I just knew that she said some mean things to Kathryn,

and I think those were terrible things, obviously,

but I didn't know she offended almost everybody here.

- I know you talked some sh-- about my mother,

which, unfairly so.

- I have nothing kind to say about her.

- Why did you tweet the other week

and say that we were all losers?

- I'm a horrible person, you're a loser.

- I heard when you ran into Naomie downtown,

you started yelling at her and called her a bitch.

- The reason I probably called her a bitch

was because she was a bitch.

- I'm all about forgiving as well,

but, God, she just goes about it so wrong.

- She's not sorry.

All of her apologies end with a "but."

- [laughs]

- I'm like, "Ashley, just go in and apologize."

And I'm like, "You're upsetting me,

"because here I am, bringing you in, vouching for you,

"and you make me look like an idiot

for giving you one chance in the first place."

- Are you still friends with Ashley?

- We talk every blue moon.

I'm not gonna, like, be like, you know, "Get away from me."

- Is your family still friends with Thomas?

- Oh, absolutely. - Yeah.

What's our reaction to his current legal issues?

- [sighs] I don't-- I don't want any involvement.

I wasn't there, and I can't, like, speak on his behalf.

But I'm not gonna leave him high and dry

over something that I have no involvement in.

- All right, we'll leave it there.

This year, Chelsea found herself ticking off all the boxes,

with a brand new house and a brand new man.

But dating a professional sailor means constant long distance,

making some wonder how they'll keep their relationship afloat.

Have you all met Nick? - Uh-uh.

- I'm not sure, do I know him? - No one has met him?

- Nope. - Why is that?

- Usually when he's in town, it's very short,

and it's like, we're just trying to spend time together.

- Osha from Long Beach has a good question.

"Chelsea, why is it you're so trusting of Nick

"when you only spend a week together here and there?

For all you know, he could have a girl in every port."

- [scoffs] - I mean, it's a fair question.

- Well, we communicate often and well, and we just...

- You trust him? - Oh, God, yeah.

- Yeah. - Yeah.

- How dangerous is his job? - Very.

They had two fatalities during the last race.

- Jesus. - Yeah.

- Wow.

Daniel from Helena, Montana said,

"Chelsea's dad seems hesitant about the men she chooses,

"always the type that aren't around.

"Listen to your pops, Chelsea.

Dad's have good intuition too."

- Why do you always find baseball players

that are never home,

musicians that are never home?

There's no future there, right?

- So, I think when I've dated long distance,

he fears, because I've done this before,

I've packed up and left.

Right now, all of my family is in Charleston,

and it's been a really good thing,

and I think he fears that I'm gonna end up moving

and not being around the family.

- Austen, what did you think when Chelsea's dad

called you a house cat?

- I was, like, kinda confused, because I was like,

"Well, Chelsea's the house cat, because that's what she does.

She goes to work and goes home, and that's"--

- To him, though, house cat is like

someone who's, like, a gamer, that hadn't gotten out much.

- A gamer? [chuckles] - A gamer?

- I thought that a house cat is like

a submissive, kind of a wuss.

- No, I'm sorry. He should not have said that.

- Diana from San Diego said,

"Chelsea, as someone who actually has to work for it,

"do you ever feel like an anomaly

amongst your privileged trust fund friends?"

- I honestly don't think about that.

It's not their fault that they have a trust fund, you know?

- You are pinpointing one person that has a trust fund.

- Well, who here actual-- who has a trust fund?

- Nobody but Shepard. - I don't, you don't.

- It's a common refrain.

- Exactly, so it's just a silly, silly thing to say.

- I think the perception is that you guys don't have jobs.

- Okay.

- Yeah, because whose fault is that?

- Whose business is that?

- Well, you're on a reality show about your life, so--

- Yeah, I know, but I'm saying, like,

I'm not, like, taking government money,

like, you know.

- Well, nobody's accusing you of that. I mean...

- But, like, if I was in a coal mine,

like, that would be more...

- No, like, that's what I'm saying,

like, "Oh, Shep's a hardworking guy

"He works in a coal mine.

"He goes in every day. He makes minimum wage.

Oh, man, what a hardworking guy that Shep is."

- "What a great guy."

- Do you think that Chelsea works harder than you

or the same amount as you?

- I've had a job since I was 14.

My very first job was bush hogging pastures

for neighbors.

- Okay. And when I first moved to Charleston,

I had three jobs, and then, when I didn't have to have

a 9-to-5 anymore, when I'm selling beer,

like, I don't have to be in there at 9:00.

- But, see, you have that option.

You have an option to say... - Why? Why do you say that?

- "I don't have to have one." - Why do you say that?

You have the exact same option as I do.

- Yeah, Chelsea, you're in the same position.

You just like doing it.

- Are you really inferring that my parents give me money?

- No, but you just said,

"But when I didn't have to have a job..."

- You don't have to have a job either, Chelsea.

- Yes, I do.

If I won the lottery, I would have a job.

- Yes. - Okay.

- Nuh-uh, you would move to Costa Rica

and not do sh-- and surf. - No.

But that's the difference. - I would never do that.

Chelsea chooses to still do it. She doesn't have to.

- You've talked about it. You want to buy a house.

- That doesn't mean I'd quit my job.

I would never quit my job.

If I'm not working, I feel, like, worthless.

- Okay, let's switch gears.

It feels like you have a new drama with Austen every year.

First, it was Shep. Last year, it was Victoria.

This year, it was the infamous screenshots.

- Madison sends me screenshots of you talking sh-- about me.

- Mm-hmm.

- Why are you talking about me to your girlfriend?

- That was a drunken... - Drunk?

Take your drunken whatever and shove it up your ass.

- So, why were you talking sh-- about her to--

- I don't know, I don't know. I think that--

- He said things about my boyfriend.

He said that I was living some fake life

through my Instagram.

- Look, and I was venting to Madison,

because I guess that I had, like, been angry,

or not angry, but, like...

- This is what it is,

when I posted--first posted a picture of Nick and I,

everyone commented, "Oh, you finally found a man.

Good for you. You got rid of Austen."

And they were, like, tagging him in this.

So, of course that's gonna make him, like, angry.

And, you know, I'm sure texting to Madison,

he's like, "Oh, this guy isn't a man."

- And I was like, "What does this have to do with me at all?"

And then, I guess that I'd been drinking.

- And then it fed off each-- it was not flattering.

- What did he say?

- Someone was like, "I don't understand

why you're not with Chelsea," and you were like,

"I need someone with sex drive."

- It was more so, in my opinion,

commenting on, you know, Madison's sex drive,

'cause I want someone that has a higher sex drive.

- Okay.

- That's what a relationship's all about.

- Austen, you regretted it. - Yeah, of course.

I sat there and I ate crow, and I was like, "I'm sorry."

- Chelsea, you not only forgave Austen,

but you took him under your wing,

and tried to help him reform his party ways.

- I do think you should surround yourself

with people that aren't such bad influences on you

or aren't dragging you out to the bars.

- Shep, Chelsea basically said

your friendship with Austen is a farce

and based solely on partying. - Yeah.

- What do you have to say about that?

- That really bothered me, and I sent her a text,

and I was really angry.

- Like, listen, Austen asked for my advice.

He could take it or leave it. Wouldn't hurt my feelings.

And that's how that conversation went.

- And I think he respects you a lot,

and respects, like, your advice and your opinion.

That's why he asked you. - Yeah.

- Okay, we need to take a break.

Eliza, thanks for being here.

- Thank you. - We'll be right back.

Coming up...

You claimed you didn't hook up with the two women

that Madison found in your apartment.

Why were her panties off?

- I don't--Andy...

[tense music]

- All right, here we go.

- All right, here we go. Andy, stand by.

- Oh, man...

[electronic percussive music]

If there was ever a time to take my Adderall, it would be now.

- Mm-hmm.

♪ ♪

- All right, Andy, here we go.

- We are back with the "Southern Charm" reunion.

Let's welcome Madison. Hey, Madison.

- Hi, how are you? - I'm great.

Austen and Madison, what is the status of your relationship?

- We're not together.

- You're not together? - Yeah.

- You're not friends with benefits?

- [sighs, chuckles] I didn't say that, Andy.

- Okay, so, you're still-- - We're not not together.

- When was the last time you slept together?

- Last night. - [laughs]

- Yeah, exactly... - Okay.

- He didn't come to my room, and instantly I knew

that that meant that you guys were hanging out, so...

- Okay, so, it's complicated is the answer.

Okay. I promise we're not gonna play that video today.

- Bullsh--. Really?

- No, I've seen it so many times.

- Ad nauseam. - I wanna talk about it.

You claimed you didn't hook up with the two women

that Madison found in your apartment.

Is it true you really didn't-- nothing happened?

- I mean, I am being as honest as a heart atta--like...

- Kathryn doesn't believe you. She's shaking her head.

- Okay, and-- - The blonde one.

- Yeah, you hooked up with the one,

but you didn't have a threesome, yeah.

- So, there's also an argument to be made

that he was so drunk that he couldn't have performed, right?

- And that's what I think, but...

- I mean, I've slept with him when he's been blackout, so...

- Have you? - Really? And is that good?

- No. - Right.

Why were her panties off?

- I don't--Andy...

I honestly do not remember.

- Reena Rachel tweeted this.

She said, "I don't understand

"how Austen possibly cheated on Madison in a threesome

"that was recorded on video,

"yet she hooked up with someone

"while they were temporarily broken up.

"And she's the, 'crazy one,'

according to the male cast members."

Kathryn, do you think the guys labeling Madison

as the crazy one is a double standard?

- Yeah, it's definitely a pattern

and typical for men to blame it all on the girl.

- But were y'all broken up, Austen?

You tweeted that you guys

were definitely together at that time.

- And you said you didn't give her permission, and that

you didn't know she was having sex with someone else.

- So, were you broken up? - No.

- You were not broken up? - No.

You had been calling me.

Like, we slept together, you know, that week.

And then, like, I come to find out

that you're, like, out on the town.

- Okay, I'm gonna stop you right there.

At this pool party that I was at,

the Michelle girl that he ended up sleeping with,

the blonde, was at the party.

I went up to her, and I said, woman to woman,

"Did you have sex with him, yes or no?"

And she said, "Yes, I did."

And after that, I told Austen,

I was like, "(BLEEP) this. I'm done."

And I didn't talk to you for... - 24 hours.

- And during that time-- - And during that time--

- But then you don't get back together.

Revenge sex is the middle finger.

- Yeah, so, it's over. - That's not love.

- And so, she should've broken up with him,

and then, like, bye.

- Those people are warped. - Yeah.

- That's not a real, like, solid relationship.

- Hey, but it doesn't matter to Austen.

He keeps plowing ahead.

Like, you can do anything to him, man.

- I think you need to focus on your own relationships

and leave ours alone.

- Well, don't involve us. - This is part of it, guys.

Austen calls me, crying, because you posted

a picture with, like, three Italian guys,

saying, "Austen who? Bye, boy."

And you're, like, all up like this on them.

- [chuckles] Okay, first off... - Yes, true. Very true.

- Madison... - Okay.

- You were mad at him for going to SeaWorld with some girl,

and you were like, "I'm gonna bang this girl."

- You took a girl to SeaWorld? - SeaWorld?

- A friend, right?

- Did he just take her to SeaWorld?

- I don't know, but this is the thing that you--

- Okay, so, mind your own business.

Don't sit there and point fingers when you don't know.

- He called me, and I would spend an hour

talking to him afterwards, that's why it's our business.

- What do you two fight about the most

when you're together?

- Well, I would say Shep and Craig.

- You blamed us for the DM stuff,

and I was like, that was one person's fault.

I'm sorry, Madison, that was your fault.

We didn't send the DM. Like, she did.

- I was with Gentry, and we were at dinner,

and he mentioned Madison.

She had a friend who reached out to him on Instagram.

"Madison thinks you're cute" or something.

- But you somehow, like... - I got blamed for it.

- Deflect it on everyone else.

- Unless you thought that it was made into such a big deal,

when the thing that mattered to me

was that she didn't personally send the DM.

- Okay, Austen--whoa, okay...

- Not a lot matters to you, clearly.

- Hold on. - Okay...

- I mean, and you and I spoke on the phone.

- This was very clearly communicated by me to you

what happened,

and I did not say she sent it directly.

- Well, listen, I never sent anything,

and, honestly, after the video...

- Okay.

- Was taken... - Right.

- A lot of my clients were like,

"Girl, come on..."

- "Get out there." - "Get out there.

Like, you need to meet my friend, Gentry."

And all I did. No, I'm gonna tell you,

because this has been miscommunicated.

- No, you're gonna let me talk first, okay,

because I've heard enough of

all your little chit-chat around town.

- Oh, good, come on, girl, tell me.

- You're just, like, exhausting me already.

- Well, I'm here listening. - Okay, well, what?

- Okay, so, I didn't think it was a big deal,

because I actually thought she was single.

I couldn't keep track of their relationship.

- Okay, but they clearly were.

- Craig took that information, knowing their status...

- And she had just had sex with another guy.

- And did what he wanted with it.

- Okay. - I told the boyfriend.

- Do you regret telling Craig?

- Yes! - Why?

- 'Cause you're the mouth, man. - Because.

- It's her fault. It's no one else's.

- Okay. - Are you kidding me?

- Danni, do you think Madison was complicit

in having her friend DM Gentry? - Yes.

- Well, now you know why I don't like you,

because you just--you started a bunch of sh--, and, like--

- I started nothing.

You reached out to my boyfriend. I'm sorry.

- Is she crazy? - No, you are.

- You are ----ing crazy, Madison.

- Oh, please.

- She was really trying to not make it a big deal.

- I was trying to protect you.

- She was trying to play it down.

- What she said to Craig did get blown out of proportion,

and then you took your anger out on her.

- I don't think I did.

- And ever since, you guys have both

taken out that anger out on me,

when all I did was try to mitigate it.

You're such a bully.

It's like, you change everything around.

[solemn music]

Psycho. - Why are you so upset?

- Stare right through me, Madison.

- No, but why are you upset?

- I have many reasons to be upset with you.

Many.

♪ ♪

- This is a great spot to take a break.

We'll be right back.

Coming up...

- At the pillow party, you called me white trash.

- You were acting trashy.

- That's pretty harsh to say "trash" to someone.

[solemn music]

- We are back with the "Southern Charm" reunion.

Madison, while the boys whisked Austen away

on an RV trip to get his mind off of your breakup,

you divulged to Chelsea that Shep called you

a white trash hairdresser.

- You know what, Shep, (BLEEP) him.

He said that I was a white trash hairstylist.

- Shep did? - Yeah.

- What is the definition of white trash to you?

- I think it's just the working class,

not born into money... - [blows raspberries]

- And I don't light a candle to him

and that he's better than me.

- Austen, what was your reaction

when you heard that Shep said that?

- Well, Shep said it to me,

and I was not pleased.

- Yeah, you said, um, "She cheated on me. I feel bad."

I said, "Good, get rid of her."

- [laughs]

- Look, there's something called country,

and they're the best folks in the world,

but then there's, you know, rednecks, and they're--

- But don't say "white." Just say "trash."

Don't say "white." - Okay, just--yeah, and--

- I'm pretty sure at the pillow party,

you called me white trash too.

Why are you being a douche?

Do you feel that way about me? - You were acting trashy.

You were acting trashy.

- Okay. All right. - I believe that.

"Get off my coattails. (BLEEP) you, Danni."

I mean, I was just like, "Get the (BLEEP) out of here.

That's crazy talk."

- Wow. I just still think

it's pretty harsh to say "trash" to someone.

- Sure.

- You had to know that saying

about a woman that she's white trash

was going to get you labeled elitist,

which is something that you get labeled all the time...

- Yeah. - And I think bothers you.

- Yeah, no, I know, and I hate that part,

but you should see my friends in Palm Beach. [chuckles]

- It sounds like I don't want to.

- But, I mean, it manifests itself

only in times where I see something or someone

I don't think were raised properly.

- [exhales] - That's all it is.

I was raised properly, I feel like.

I don't always act that way. - What does that mean?

What does that mean? - Just manners.

- Is calling someone white trash manners?

- No, no, but Eleanor Roosevelt, "If you don't

have anything nice to say, come sit next to me."

Dude, the hoity-toity society is not a bastion

of everyone being nice to each other.

- Well, Eleanor Roosevelt was First Lady.

She wasn't Brooke Astor.

- Who's Broo--oh, that's the manners girl, yeah.

- No, Brooke Astor was the queen of New York society.

- Oh, well, what do I know?

- Shep, fans could not help but think

that there's more behind your dislike for Madison, okay?

"Madison must've turned Shep down at some point."

- Yeah, no, I'm open with that story.

I was, you know, whispering in this cute blonde's ear,

and it was Madison, and she wasn't having it.

- We were cheerleaders too. - Oh, I love cheerleaders.

[chuckles]

What?

- Okay, here's another theory:

"In Shep's world, there's only one thing worse than

losing the girl, and that's losing the girl to Austen."

- Oh, God.

- "As a couples therapist, I work with couples

"who really hate each other,

"so I can tell you as a professional

that Shep does not hate Madison..."

- [chuckles] - "But in fact loves her."

- No.

- "The big question is,

will Shep ever admit it to himself?"

- We are way too strong-willed,

but if you wanna put that in a vacuum.

I would never admit defeat,

and she will never do it either.

- Well, changing topics,

to help Cam get her mojo back,

the gang headed to Colorado.

Craig, you seemed to be carrying

some pretty serious emotional baggage

from the moment you got to the baggage claim.

- Jesus Christ. Don't get on a plane.

I'll pay for it and go back to Charleston.

- Hey, mind your own business. Dickhead.

- Craig, relax.

- What the (BLEEP) are we waiting for?

- You need to check your goddamn pants for a vagina,

'cause you're being a pussy right now.

- Oh, really? - Shut the (BLEEP) up.

Don't talk to people like that. - Whatever, Chelsea.

- Did you think what you said was right on or what?

- I'm mortified.

- Mortified? - Oh, it was so funny.

- Absolutely mortified.

Like, the feminists were on my ass.

But I just had enough.

- Craig was out of control. I mean...

- I was trying to get them on the bus.

- You were frothing. You were frothing, man.

- You know, the weed dinner was really fun to watch.

It looked fun to eat. - It was awesome.

- Thank you, Ja, for all you have given us.

We will use this sweet leaf.

[laughter]

- Um, Kathryn, you got really upset at the weed dinner.

The Bad Guy Andrew tweeted,

"Can we speak about how big of hypocrites

"the entire cast of 'Southern Charm' was

"on this episode?

"They attack Kathryn

"and treat her like an addict for smoking weed,

"and acted like she needed her kids taken,

"and then got high the whole trip,

like there's nothing wrong with it."

Austen, you knew about Kathryn's history.

Did you never check in with her or think about it?

- Kathryn knew about the dinner for weeks...

- That's not true. - Let's just put it that way.

1,000%. - That's not true.

- Did you--you did know you were gonna be around--

- I knew there was going to be a weed dinner

about, I don't know, maybe a week before that,

which is fine... - Okay, okay.

- But let's not be dramatic here, 'cause I don't want--

- Okay, well, I just wish that you could've prior been like,

"Austen, you know, this kinda bothers me,"

but then you're silent, you're silent, you're silent,

and then you finally are like, "Who threw this dinner? Austen?"

And I'm like, "What?"

- You said you called bullsh--

and said I did that for attention.

- Yeah, I do-- I do call bullsh--.

It was a ploy to, like,

bring attention back, you know, to her.

She knew--

- She did not give two sh--s. - She didn't give two (BLEEP).

- Cameran, you also said on the after show,

Kathryn really didn't give two (BLEEP) about the weed dinner.

- I didn't think she did, I really didn't.

I did not think it was gonna offend her.

- Well, I told everyone I didn't care about,

you know, there being a weed dinner.

I was like, "I'll be fine."

But that literally was the first time

I had, like, really been around weed...

- And I understand that, I do.

- And seeing it just, like...

- So, did it bother you more being around the weed,

or that nobody thought to say,

"Hey, Kathryn, you okay?"

- It bothered me the most how much guilt that I feel

that, you know, I wasn't there with my kids

for those few months, you know?

- And I genuinely apologize. I should've thought about it--

- But then you say it's bullsh--.

- Yeah, I--I do think it's bullsh--.

- You just said you're sorry.

Now you're saying it's bullsh--, you're not sorry.

- Kay. A mushroom dinner.

That's what we do next time.

♪ ♪

- We'll leave it there.

♪ ♪

Coming up...

- It was really, really hurtful

and humiliating and not true.

- We are back with

- We are back with the "Southern Charm" reunion.

Madison, did any part of you think

you and Austen were going to get back together in Colorado?

- Yeah.

- You were obviously upset

after your talk with him at the hot springs.

- I know that I care about you so much,

and I don't wanna lose you.

- You do care about me,

but that's, like, not enough, you know?

- You're sitting there with Shep.

Danni's there, Craig is there... - Mm-hmm.

- You're talking to Shep.

It escalates... - Yes.

- You reveal something very private.

- I have nothing to hide.

- You sure about that? - Yeah.

[tense music]

- I heard you gave her chlamydia.

[laughter] - What?

- What? - That's what I heard.

- What made you go there?

- Honestly, at that point--[sighs]--

I had so much rage,

and I honestly blacked out,

as far as saying something that I should've never said.

And I just feel that I was provoked.

It just constantly felt like he was coming after me.

- Danni, why do you think you were brought into this?

I mean, Madison's issues with Shep are no secret, but...

- She blamed you for the Instagram thing.

- And I know that there was some animosity

that both of them had towards me for bringing that to light.

But I didn't know that it was, like, to the extent that it was.

And it was really, really hurtful

and humiliating and not true.

And so, I don't know where the disconnect is,

and I don't know how somebody just comes up with chlamydia.

I don't know if you made it up.

- Austen, did you make it up?

- Danni is gonna say, "You're a ----ing"--

you know, she makes that face.

- [chuckles]

- Like, "You're the ----ing liar, and you"--

and I'm just gonna be like, "Dude, like...

"I'm not, though, girl, and I'm sorry to say it.

Like, I'm not. I didn't make it up."

- Yeah.

- "You two ----ing figure it out.

Like, I'm just saying that I didn't make it up."

- Right.

- Andy, I said that,

you know, it could've been just misconstrued

in a late night talk with Shep,

and maybe I took it--

- The important part is it's not true.

- I don't understand how it's a misconstrued late night talk.

- You sure you just didn't make it up for fun,

because you were mad at Danni?

- Kathryn, I would never make up something like that

just for fun.

Like, that does not sound like fun to me.

- So, Shep, you told Austen this.

- No, I didn't. I--we--it got misconstrued.

We have had--I don't remember anything like that.

- You guys did hook up many years ago, right?

- We dated eight years ago. - Right. Yeah.

- I have my medical records here...

- Okay. - So you know I don't have it.

- Can I just say something? - It's just, like...

- We called Dr. Jackie from "Married to Medicine"

to ask her about chlamydia.

I mean, you can Google it too.

I mean, it's a pretty common thing that,

you take seven days of antibiotics and it's gone.

- Doesn't matter. It's the stigma. It's an STD.

- I know, but I'm saying, chlamydia, it's like...

- Right, but no single woman in her 30s wants to be...

- As a female, and she's gonna have that stigma forever.

- Yeah, that is-- that's ----ed up.

If that was said about me,

I mean, I would be mortified.

I mean, I think any of us women

would be...

- Austen, when you went over to Shep's to apologize,

Shep asked you why you never told Madison

to shut the (BLEEP) up.

- You should've been like, "Shut the (BLEEP) up."

Have you ever told her to shut the (BLEEP) up before?

Because you really should learn how to do that.

- I try not to. Shep, maybe you should learn

to not ----ing do that.

- Cameran, what did you think when you saw Shep say this?

- I got it. I mean, I kind of agreed

- I mean, do you want Jason to be like,

"Cam, shut the (BLEEP) up"?

- Jason has told me to shut the (BLEEP) up before,

when I've been out of line.

He has looked at me and said... - Okay, okay.

- "Cameran, you need to shut the (BLEEP) up,"

and you know what, I shut the (BLEEP) up.

[laughter]

- Who here thought it was wrong of Shep

to bring the girls from the threesome video

as his date to Patricia's party?

♪ ♪

- Would you like a drink?

♪ ♪

- [exhales]

- [indistinct]

- Apparently my collar was out.

♪ ♪

- Me. I did.

- That's it? - It was a dick move...

- But funny. But it's funny. - And you know it was,

and you admitted as such. - It was salacious.

- Whatever, I mean, dude, it was a dick move.

- It was messier than most "Real Housewives,"

I have to--like, the messiest. - Yeah, it was a dick move.

You're just a petty dickhead.

Like, you're a 40-year-old dickhead.

- [chuckles] Not yet. 39.

- For someone who is sitting here, espousing manners

and your upbringing... - Yeah.

- And how well you're raised... - Yeah.

- And high society... - Sure.

- Is that an example?

- No, but, look,

I'm not gonna fight back with fists.

That's my little way of fighting back.

- I think he was trying to say, like,

that he thinks their relationship is a joke,

"so I'm going to bring these two girls."

- I'm not surprised by anything that he does

that's hateful towards me or Austen.

But Austen really does respect your relationship, and I think--

- I've been very good to Austen in the pa--I mean, forget it...

- Let me ask you a question,

did you enjoy inflicting pain on the two of them?

- Look, I mean, they bicker all the time about such things.

"Oh, that picture on Instagram. Oh, this DM."

I mean, this is just another night, honestly.

But I will say this, Chelsea, she and I have a history.

- Just say her last name,

so people don't assume you're talking about me.

[laughter] - Chelsea Scott.

We have a history,

and I would've taken maybe her anyway,

if you want to know the truth.

Now, the other girl was manufactured by me

and approved by Craig.

- They, like, couldn't form words, hardly.

They were like, "I'm just having a really fun night."

- Yeah, 'cause she was lying.

- "I mean, why is this happening?"

- [laughs] Yeah, they, like, weren't making sentences.

- She was like, "I'm just trying to have fun.

I just like to party." - She was going around telling

everyone, "I'm, like, so rich. Like, my family is so rich."

- So, winding this up, Shep, do you regret

anything from the party?

- I guess I regret not giving the proper amount of respect

to their relationship,

despite all of my protestations.

- Austen, what's the over and under

on you two sleeping together tonight?

- [laughs] - Maybe not tonight, but...

- Yeah, I have a feeling it's not gonna happen tonight.

- What? - I said I have a feeling

it's not gonna happen tonight. - I don't think so.

- Well, we will leave it there.

We're going to say good-bye to Madison and Danni.

Thank you.

Don't go anywhere.

♪ ♪

- Thanks, guys.

- Oh, God. - I need it for--

I know, I need it for the monologues.

- You two can come right this way.

We're just gonna bring you right outside.

- Jesus, man. - You did it.

- I just want a drink so bad. - Brutal, man.

I tried to keep my composure as much as ----ing possible.

- You did a very good job.

Like, better than expected.

- Yeah? - Yeah.

- I know.

- When the guys get together, it turns into a nightmare.

- I know.

- Every single miscommunication we have had

has been because of the guys.

- We're gonna do Austen's beer? - I wish.

- Oh, I just saw what we're getting.

- They said martinis.

- Are these actual martinis? - Yeah.

- Really? - Yeah.

- All right.

- I feel like I'm in "Swingers."

- [laughs]

- Honestly, like, from now on,

I don't think we're gonna have any issues,

but, like, I just feel like we need to call.

- No, you know-- call me directly,

or I'll call you directly.

I don't deal-- I don't like animosity.

- I'm sorry. Like, I really am.

♪ ♪

- I wanna thank all of you for being here

and sharing your lives with us.

Before we end, I have one final question for you.

And we all have martinis, by the way, which is fun.

- Water. - You have water.

Naomie, last year, you were one of the strongest voices

for female empowerment.

This year, many people think

you're putting your relationship before yourself.

Do you wanna clear anything up there?

- I agree that I came off a little bit less strong,

but it was just because I was learning

how to navigate a new relationship,

and it's not just about me anymore,

and I wanted to be mindful of another person's feelings,

and I think that that's normal, if not healthy,

so, I'm fine with it.

- Craig, do you think you're ready

to put your angry outbursts in the past

and focus on your burgeoning pillow empire?

- Yeah, I hope so. That's the goal.

That's what I'm working towards.

And I think, hopefully, today was a good example of that.

So, just be happy and enjoy every day and find someone--

you know, it will be fun to find someone special.

- Kathryn, where do you see yourself, your relationship,

and your kids in the next year?

- I will hopefully be settled

in the house that I'm renovating,

and my kids will just be happy and safe,

and, um, yeah, that'll make me happy.

- Austen, we've seen you and Shep on social media.

Did you two repair your friendship?

- Yeah, um... - Never been better.

- You know, Shep and I really did

take a hit there for a couple months.

You know, we both kinda took some time apart,

which sounds funny to say, but, you know, we did.

And honestly, now, I think that we--

I mean, yeah, we're better than ever, bud.

- If he starts dating someone you think is beneath him,

are you going to go in as hard?

- I wanna be as supportive as possible about...

- You can. You can. I'll listen. I will.

- Cameran, after watching you embrace motherhood,

are you positive you're one and done?

- Yes. - Come on.

- Yes? - No, I am, for real, 100%.

- You always say that about stuff.

- Yeah, she draws a line in the sand...

- And always jumps over the line.

- Okay, watch me be pregnant next--

- [laughs] - No.

For now, no, one is enough, all that I can handle.

- Chelsea, any upcoming adventures with Nick planned?

- Um, the next one will be to New Zealand.

He'll be there for, like, eight months, so...

- It's where the America's Cup--

- I wanna see him on the show.

- Nah. - Good luck.

- Really? - He's not about it, mm-mm.

- Shep, I'll give you the last word on the season.

- I mean, I think it was a tough one for a lot of us,

and we keep doing it, and we have fun doing it,

and I think that's the crux of it,

and we really enjoy each other's company.

And I'm a better person for having known all of you,

that's for sure,

and I'll always be connected to you,

for better or for worse,

and I will value that.

- I believe that.

- Progress. - Cheers, that was great.

- All right, buddy, cheers.

- Okay, well, that's a wrap

on another season of "Southern Charm."

We asked Patricia to send us a toast.

She did, via Dorothy Parker.

Here we go.

"I like to have a martini,

"two at the very most.

"After three, I'm under the table.

After four, I'm under my host."

[laughter] Cheers, everybody.

- Cheers - Cheers.

- I was gonna do one.

- Oh. - Okay.

- "There's woodchips, there are steel ships,

"there are ships that sail the sea,

"but the best ships are friendships,

and may they always be."

- Aw. - Aww, Sheppy!

- Cheers. - Cheers.

- Cheers. - You guys earned this.

- For more "Southern Charm," go to bravotv.com.

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