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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,500 --> 00:00:10,459 'Our imperative is to find out exactly what did happen that night, 2 00:00:10,460 --> 00:00:12,979 'and right now, I have lots of questions.' 3 00:00:12,980 --> 00:00:15,459 If there is anything to find, it's gonna be with the head. 4 00:00:15,460 --> 00:00:18,459 'Fogerty had four other probationers from Hendon with him.' 5 00:00:18,460 --> 00:00:19,460 One of them was you. 6 00:00:19,460 --> 00:00:20,460 Am I a suspect here? 7 00:00:20,461 --> 00:00:23,459 I think we talk Friday about my money. 8 00:00:23,460 --> 00:00:24,460 We think you can help us 9 00:00:24,461 --> 00:00:27,459 throw some light on the events of an evening 30 years ago. We're done. 10 00:00:27,460 --> 00:00:30,459 And whoever sent you from upstairs, tell them, "Nice try, but no cigar." 11 00:00:30,460 --> 00:00:31,499 It's me, we need to meet. 12 00:00:31,500 --> 00:00:33,819 Evening, everybody. DCI Cassie Stuart. 13 00:00:33,820 --> 00:00:36,499 I do remember Rob on that night, of course, how could you not? 14 00:00:36,500 --> 00:00:38,459 But not this lad. Do not tell your brother this. 15 00:00:38,460 --> 00:00:40,139 I have a criminal conviction. 16 00:00:40,140 --> 00:00:41,459 If we lost that money, you could ruin us. 17 00:00:41,460 --> 00:00:43,459 And what would you do for me in return? 18 00:00:43,460 --> 00:00:45,459 I want my half to go to charity. 19 00:00:45,460 --> 00:00:47,459 Given what I know that you'll be doing for me. 20 00:00:47,460 --> 00:00:48,499 I get it, Grandad. I understand. 21 00:00:48,500 --> 00:00:51,459 Could I just run a few other names past you? Liz Baildon? No. 22 00:00:51,460 --> 00:00:55,459 What are you doing? Are you insane? Tomorrow, 11 o'clock. 23 00:00:55,460 --> 00:00:58,139 Pay for your train ticket in cash. 24 00:00:58,140 --> 00:01:00,459 'I have a witness, who can confirm that Walsh was being chased. 25 00:01:00,460 --> 00:01:03,459 'The chase suggests that his murder was in some way provoked.' 26 00:01:03,460 --> 00:01:06,140 Jake? I found the rest of him. 27 00:01:16,980 --> 00:01:20,459 โ™ช All we do is hide away 28 00:01:20,460 --> 00:01:24,459 โ™ช All we do is All we do is hide away 29 00:01:24,460 --> 00:01:27,460 โ™ช All we do is lie and wait 30 00:01:28,460 --> 00:01:31,819 โ™ช All we do is All we do is lie in wait 31 00:01:31,820 --> 00:01:35,459 โ™ช I've been upside down 32 00:01:35,460 --> 00:01:39,459 โ™ช I don't wanna be The right way round 33 00:01:39,460 --> 00:01:42,460 โ™ช Can't find paradise On the ground. โ™ช 34 00:01:59,460 --> 00:02:01,980 DOOR OPENS AND CLOSES 35 00:02:03,460 --> 00:02:05,460 'Hey-ya.' Hey. 36 00:02:15,460 --> 00:02:18,460 So, how did it go? Yeah, good. 37 00:02:20,460 --> 00:02:22,460 And? 38 00:02:24,460 --> 00:02:26,460 I think you need to let it go, Mum. 39 00:02:28,460 --> 00:02:31,060 He knows exactly what he's doing, it's got nothing to do with her. 40 00:02:33,460 --> 00:02:35,460 Right. Sorry. 41 00:02:36,500 --> 00:02:38,460 No, fine. 42 00:02:39,820 --> 00:02:41,659 Just don't come running to me in ten years' time 43 00:02:41,660 --> 00:02:45,459 when you've got no money for a deposit on a flat. 44 00:02:45,460 --> 00:02:47,819 Right. Yeah, well... 45 00:02:47,820 --> 00:02:51,460 Now I know. Thanks for that. 46 00:03:16,460 --> 00:03:18,459 I am so sorry. 47 00:03:18,460 --> 00:03:21,459 Don't be daft, it's not your fault. 48 00:03:21,460 --> 00:03:24,460 So, um, welcome home. 49 00:03:26,460 --> 00:03:29,459 Well, that sounds very nice. 50 00:03:29,460 --> 00:03:32,819 Doesn't it? HE CHUCKLES, THEY SIGH 51 00:03:32,820 --> 00:03:34,459 GIRLS LAUGH How are the girls? 52 00:03:34,460 --> 00:03:37,459 Oh, very excited to have their own rooms, as you can hear. 53 00:03:37,460 --> 00:03:39,660 GIRLS LAUGH Yeah. 54 00:03:42,460 --> 00:03:44,460 I need more of this. 55 00:03:46,460 --> 00:03:48,300 COUGHING 56 00:03:55,460 --> 00:03:59,460 What's this? Year 10 debating prize. I won it. 57 00:04:01,140 --> 00:04:03,459 When was this? Yesterday. 58 00:04:03,460 --> 00:04:07,460 Erm, I did tell you I was doing it, but... You had Jack's evening, so... 59 00:04:12,460 --> 00:04:15,460 Oh, mate. Well done. 60 00:04:16,460 --> 00:04:19,820 So well done. That is just brilliant. 61 00:04:20,980 --> 00:04:24,459 And... I'm so sorry if we're not always on it. 62 00:04:24,460 --> 00:04:27,459 You know, he takes up a lot of our time. 63 00:04:27,460 --> 00:04:31,460 But you... You're an absolute star. 64 00:04:32,460 --> 00:04:34,460 Really are. 65 00:04:36,460 --> 00:04:39,459 Wow, he looks almost... mummified. 66 00:04:39,460 --> 00:04:41,459 Well, with the fridge unplugged and open, 67 00:04:41,460 --> 00:04:43,459 that's pretty much what's happened. 68 00:04:43,460 --> 00:04:45,139 Can we be sure it is Matthew? 69 00:04:45,140 --> 00:04:49,459 I'll be sending samples for DNA, obviously, but it is male, 70 00:04:49,460 --> 00:04:53,459 we have laryngeal prominence here, and a quick look at the teeth 71 00:04:53,460 --> 00:04:54,460 certainly suggests the right age group. 72 00:04:54,461 --> 00:04:56,459 And you know what I'm gonna ask next? 73 00:04:56,460 --> 00:04:58,659 The answer is a cautious maybe. 74 00:04:58,660 --> 00:05:01,459 There's a depressed fracture over the temple here, 75 00:05:01,460 --> 00:05:04,459 which certainly has to be a contender for cause of death, 76 00:05:04,460 --> 00:05:08,459 but let me do an X-ray, open him up, and then let's see where we are. OK. 77 00:05:08,460 --> 00:05:12,459 And did Jay call you yet? Jay? The forensic botanist? 78 00:05:12,460 --> 00:05:15,459 He's had some interesting results on the leaf material on the T-shirt. 79 00:05:15,460 --> 00:05:17,460 Er, no. Anyway, he'll call you. 80 00:05:18,500 --> 00:05:21,459 So, Murray's had a quick squint through the mobile phone records. 81 00:05:21,460 --> 00:05:24,459 No indication that any of them are speaking to each other yet. 82 00:05:24,460 --> 00:05:26,459 Well, not on their regular phones, no. 83 00:05:26,460 --> 00:05:28,459 We are also looking into phone mast data. 84 00:05:28,460 --> 00:05:30,460 Cheers, Leanne. We'll speak later. 85 00:05:43,460 --> 00:05:46,459 Hi. DC Fran Lingley. 86 00:05:46,460 --> 00:05:47,460 Trying to trace a man 87 00:05:47,461 --> 00:05:49,459 we believe may have stayed here a few years ago. 88 00:05:49,460 --> 00:05:51,820 Wondered if you had any records on him. Name of Clive Walsh. 89 00:05:53,460 --> 00:05:56,459 Also, I spoke to Hendon first thing. 90 00:05:56,460 --> 00:05:59,460 Trying to locate that intake's lead trainer for us. Yeah. 91 00:06:00,820 --> 00:06:05,459 I just think the more of a sense we can get of them as people, 92 00:06:05,460 --> 00:06:08,459 cos if this was a murder, 93 00:06:08,460 --> 00:06:09,499 that is just such an extraordinary thing 94 00:06:09,500 --> 00:06:12,300 for five newbie coppers to have been involved with. 95 00:06:13,660 --> 00:06:15,660 That just doesn't come out of nowhere, does it? 96 00:06:17,460 --> 00:06:21,459 Er, yeah, OK. The last record we've got of Clive, 97 00:06:21,460 --> 00:06:26,299 he's been given a residential place just under two years ago 98 00:06:26,300 --> 00:06:27,460 in a halfway house in Bow. 99 00:06:45,460 --> 00:06:46,500 Fiona? 100 00:06:48,460 --> 00:06:50,460 Lizzie. Hello. 101 00:06:52,460 --> 00:06:56,459 I have to search you, I'm afraid. I'm sorry? 102 00:06:56,460 --> 00:06:59,139 I have to check you're not wearing a wire. 103 00:06:59,140 --> 00:07:01,459 Wearing...?! SHE SCOFFS 104 00:07:01,460 --> 00:07:03,499 Jesus, Liz. What do you think of me? 105 00:07:03,500 --> 00:07:05,460 Or I'll walk away. Liz! 106 00:07:06,460 --> 00:07:09,460 OK. OK. Oh, my God. 107 00:07:19,660 --> 00:07:21,460 I need to see your phone. 108 00:07:25,460 --> 00:07:29,460 I need to know you're not recording anything. Thank you. 109 00:07:40,460 --> 00:07:46,459 So... I presume they've spoken to you? The police? 110 00:07:46,460 --> 00:07:49,460 Yes. But what have you said? 111 00:07:51,460 --> 00:07:54,459 I just told 'em the truth, Fiona. 112 00:07:54,460 --> 00:07:57,819 Like we agreed. I hope you did too. 113 00:07:57,820 --> 00:08:01,660 Oh, fuck! No. Sorry. 114 00:08:02,980 --> 00:08:04,460 It was 30 years ago. 115 00:08:05,820 --> 00:08:07,460 What did you tell them, then? 116 00:08:09,460 --> 00:08:10,460 I told them... 117 00:08:12,460 --> 00:08:14,459 ..I was too drunk to remember anything. 118 00:08:14,460 --> 00:08:18,460 OK. Well, that can work for now. 119 00:08:19,460 --> 00:08:22,459 And if they interview you again, 120 00:08:22,460 --> 00:08:25,460 then the truth can slowly come back to you. 121 00:08:27,460 --> 00:08:29,300 Right. 122 00:08:32,460 --> 00:08:33,460 You remember it? 123 00:08:35,460 --> 00:08:37,459 Erm... 124 00:08:37,460 --> 00:08:42,460 ..after Rob got pulled, you drove the rest of us home... 125 00:08:44,460 --> 00:08:49,140 ..before taking his car back to his, which was near where you lived. 126 00:08:50,460 --> 00:08:54,460 And how did I get from Rob's to my flat? You walked? Good. 127 00:08:59,300 --> 00:09:00,460 And, erm... 128 00:09:03,460 --> 00:09:05,460 ..what if they find out about the pub? 129 00:09:06,460 --> 00:09:08,459 They won't find out about the pub. 130 00:09:08,460 --> 00:09:12,459 They have no connection to us in the pub. No names, anywhere. 131 00:09:12,460 --> 00:09:15,459 They might find someone. That's what they do. You should know. 132 00:09:15,460 --> 00:09:20,140 What if they find out about the pub? They might find out about the rest. 133 00:09:22,460 --> 00:09:25,459 About what you did for me. 134 00:09:25,460 --> 00:09:27,460 They might find out about everything. 135 00:09:30,460 --> 00:09:33,460 I'm sorry. I can't... 136 00:09:35,460 --> 00:09:38,459 I can't just be cold and hard about it like you can. 137 00:09:38,460 --> 00:09:41,460 I'm trying to remain as dispassionate as possible. 138 00:09:42,460 --> 00:09:45,500 I think it's the most useful thing to do right now. 139 00:09:50,460 --> 00:09:51,460 I have to go. 140 00:09:53,460 --> 00:09:54,659 If you need to contact me, 141 00:09:54,660 --> 00:09:58,460 I've set up a Hotmail, Betty two-nine-zero-two. 142 00:10:07,460 --> 00:10:09,460 You're still beautiful, Fi. 143 00:10:11,460 --> 00:10:14,460 I hope your life has been happy. 144 00:10:23,460 --> 00:10:26,459 MURRAY: 'So, three weeks before Matthew Walsh goes missing, 145 00:10:26,460 --> 00:10:28,459 'he was cautioned for an incident in a pub.' 146 00:10:28,460 --> 00:10:30,459 A physical altercation with another drinker. 147 00:10:30,460 --> 00:10:33,459 'Now, he wasn't charged, so it can't have been that serious, 148 00:10:33,460 --> 00:10:37,459 'but the reason I mention it is cos of the pub it was in, The Ifield.' 149 00:10:37,460 --> 00:10:39,459 What, our Ifield? 'Hendon Lane.' 150 00:10:39,460 --> 00:10:41,459 Now, pretty much everyone who trained at the academy 151 00:10:41,460 --> 00:10:43,459 drank at The Ifield. 152 00:10:43,460 --> 00:10:44,819 'So, I was thinking...' 153 00:10:44,820 --> 00:10:47,459 What are the chances the ruck he had was with a probationer? 154 00:10:47,460 --> 00:10:51,459 Exactly. Nice. I like that, Murray. 155 00:10:51,460 --> 00:10:55,460 I like that very much. 156 00:11:05,460 --> 00:11:09,460 Ian Henderson? DCI Cassie Stuart, DI Sunny Khan. 157 00:11:14,460 --> 00:11:16,459 'Yeah, I trained all five of them.' 158 00:11:16,460 --> 00:11:19,459 'OK, can we start with Ram, then, please?' 159 00:11:19,460 --> 00:11:21,459 'Ram hasn't changed in 30 years. 160 00:11:21,460 --> 00:11:22,819 'He was a cocky little runt back then, 161 00:11:22,820 --> 00:11:26,459 'and from what I've heard, he's still a cocky little runt now. 162 00:11:26,460 --> 00:11:28,459 'Used to play the race card at every opportunity. 163 00:11:28,460 --> 00:11:30,459 'Still does, from what I hear.' 164 00:11:30,460 --> 00:11:34,459 When you say, "Play the race card", what do you mean? 165 00:11:34,460 --> 00:11:36,459 Objects to being called a Paki on a daily basis? 166 00:11:36,460 --> 00:11:38,459 You come from Wales, you get called Taff, Scotland, Jock, 167 00:11:38,460 --> 00:11:39,460 it's the same difference. 168 00:11:39,461 --> 00:11:41,459 It isn't, but let's maybe not go there right now. 169 00:11:41,460 --> 00:11:45,459 So, aside from being cocky, what was he like as a person? 170 00:11:45,460 --> 00:11:46,460 Was he good copper material? 171 00:11:46,461 --> 00:11:49,459 Here's the deal. I always thought Ram would go right to the top, 172 00:11:49,460 --> 00:11:51,459 'or end up in prison.' 'Prison?' 173 00:11:51,460 --> 00:11:56,459 'Listen, the lad was a smart boy, there's no doubt about that. 174 00:11:56,460 --> 00:11:59,460 'He was ambitious, charismatic, very funny, people liked him.' 175 00:12:00,660 --> 00:12:02,460 'He was also fucking angry.' 176 00:12:03,460 --> 00:12:06,459 He had a massive chip on his shoulder about his colour. 177 00:12:06,460 --> 00:12:08,459 You combine that with his risk-taking and his liking power 178 00:12:08,460 --> 00:12:10,459 a bit much, well, it makes him dangerous. 179 00:12:10,460 --> 00:12:11,460 The proof of the pudding, 180 00:12:11,461 --> 00:12:14,459 you check his disciplinary record over the years, yeah? 181 00:12:14,460 --> 00:12:16,459 I mean, the guy obviously thought he was untouchable. 182 00:12:16,460 --> 00:12:18,460 And worse still, that he had a right to be. 183 00:12:20,140 --> 00:12:22,299 Now, personally, I think if he'd been white, 184 00:12:22,300 --> 00:12:23,459 he'd have been inside by now. 185 00:12:23,460 --> 00:12:26,459 So, you think he could have been capable of breaking the law. 100%. 186 00:12:26,460 --> 00:12:30,459 Did you see anything, anything specific when you worked with him 187 00:12:30,460 --> 00:12:32,460 that led you to this conclusion? No. 188 00:12:34,460 --> 00:12:36,460 So, it's just a generalised prejudice, then? 189 00:12:37,460 --> 00:12:40,460 You wanted my opinion, I've given it ya. OK, moving on. 190 00:12:42,460 --> 00:12:44,459 SHE SIGHS Dean Barton. 191 00:12:44,460 --> 00:12:47,459 'Deano. Oh, well, Deano was the polar opposite. 192 00:12:47,460 --> 00:12:50,459 'One of the most instinctive coppers I ever trained. 193 00:12:50,460 --> 00:12:53,459 'Fast-thinking, very analytical brain, great team player. 194 00:12:53,460 --> 00:12:55,459 'OK, so...' Hello, mate. 195 00:12:55,460 --> 00:12:58,459 All right, Ram. 'Dean told me that he left, ' 196 00:12:58,460 --> 00:13:01,459 because he didn't think he was a team player. 197 00:13:01,460 --> 00:13:03,459 All right, let me rephrase that. 198 00:13:03,460 --> 00:13:05,459 On the job, he worked well alongside the others, yeah? 199 00:13:05,460 --> 00:13:09,459 But, er, yeah, socially, yeah, I'd agree with you. 200 00:13:09,460 --> 00:13:13,459 Yeah, he was a loner. Very private. Secretive, almost. 201 00:13:13,460 --> 00:13:16,459 But honest? You trusted him? 202 00:13:16,460 --> 00:13:18,820 Deano? He was a straight as a die. 203 00:13:22,460 --> 00:13:24,659 So, tell me about Liz Baildon. 204 00:13:24,660 --> 00:13:28,459 'Unsurprisingly, a natural. Yeah, the Prof, we used to call her. 205 00:13:28,460 --> 00:13:31,819 'Great under pressure, very level-headed. 206 00:13:31,820 --> 00:13:33,499 'Oh, she's a great team leader. 207 00:13:33,500 --> 00:13:36,459 'She had a way of motivating people effortlessly.' 208 00:13:36,460 --> 00:13:37,460 And was she out then? 209 00:13:37,461 --> 00:13:39,459 No, the climate was different to today. 210 00:13:39,460 --> 00:13:41,459 It wasn't as easy to admit you were gay. 211 00:13:41,460 --> 00:13:43,459 So, no relationships that you remember? 212 00:13:43,460 --> 00:13:44,499 Well, not in an open sense, 213 00:13:44,500 --> 00:13:46,979 but she was as thick as thieves with one girl. 214 00:13:46,980 --> 00:13:48,459 Who was that? 215 00:13:48,460 --> 00:13:50,459 'Your fourth name.' 'Fiona Grayson?' 216 00:13:50,460 --> 00:13:52,459 'Yeah, or the Wet Blanket, as we used to call her. 217 00:13:52,460 --> 00:13:54,499 'Literally no idea what she was doing there. 218 00:13:54,500 --> 00:13:56,459 'I mean, she was a perfectly capable lady, 219 00:13:56,460 --> 00:13:58,459 'but she clearly hated the whole set-up' 220 00:13:58,460 --> 00:14:01,459 and I wasn't surprised when I heard she'd quit. 221 00:14:01,460 --> 00:14:04,459 OK, and finally, Rob Fogerty. 222 00:14:04,460 --> 00:14:06,459 Yeah, I liked Rob. Nice guy. 223 00:14:06,460 --> 00:14:09,459 A little sorry for him when I heard he got chucked off, but... 224 00:14:09,460 --> 00:14:11,459 well, it didn't surprise me. He's not the sharpest knife. 225 00:14:11,460 --> 00:14:15,459 And he was a big guy. Was there any violence in him? No, the opposite. 226 00:14:15,460 --> 00:14:17,459 I really had to push him when we did restraint training. 227 00:14:17,460 --> 00:14:19,459 No, there was nothing violent in Rob. 228 00:14:19,460 --> 00:14:20,460 No, he's a real gentle giant. 229 00:14:20,461 --> 00:14:22,979 Can you think of anything else connected to any of them 230 00:14:22,980 --> 00:14:24,139 that sticks in your mind? 231 00:14:24,140 --> 00:14:25,700 Anything you haven't already touched on? 232 00:14:27,460 --> 00:14:29,459 You know, the five of them, they formed a little gang. 233 00:14:29,460 --> 00:14:31,139 I was never quite sure what it was. 234 00:14:31,140 --> 00:14:33,459 I mean, they all came from very different backgrounds, 235 00:14:33,460 --> 00:14:35,459 they have very different personalities, but... 236 00:14:35,460 --> 00:14:37,460 there was some sort of connection. 237 00:14:38,460 --> 00:14:40,459 Then, on the day of the passing-out parade, 238 00:14:40,460 --> 00:14:42,299 I think I saw what it was. 239 00:14:42,300 --> 00:14:45,819 What? Not one of them had a guest. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. Right? 240 00:14:45,820 --> 00:14:47,459 I mean, everyone has guests, haven't they? 241 00:14:47,460 --> 00:14:51,460 Mums, dads, siblings, friends, someone, but no... no, not them. 242 00:14:53,460 --> 00:14:56,460 And I think that's what their connection was. 243 00:14:58,460 --> 00:14:59,460 For whatever reason... 244 00:15:01,460 --> 00:15:03,460 ..they were out on their own. 245 00:15:05,460 --> 00:15:07,459 Are you gonna be able to find stuff out, do you think? 246 00:15:07,460 --> 00:15:11,299 If it moves forward, keep us ahead of the game? I'll do what I can. 247 00:15:11,300 --> 00:15:13,459 But obviously, if they start looking at us closely, 248 00:15:13,460 --> 00:15:15,459 they'll be looking at me closely, so... 249 00:15:15,460 --> 00:15:19,460 Bottom line, we stick to the truth, you know. We'll be fine. We hope. 250 00:15:21,460 --> 00:15:22,660 So, I've got to go, fella. 251 00:15:24,500 --> 00:15:27,299 That business the other day, all went all right? 252 00:15:27,300 --> 00:15:28,979 Yeah. Yeah, it was fine. 253 00:15:28,980 --> 00:15:32,819 Thanks for helping out at short notice. Last time, yeah. 254 00:15:32,820 --> 00:15:36,460 I've moved on now. Absolutely, me too. It's a one-off. 255 00:15:38,460 --> 00:15:40,460 You look after yourself, buddy. Yeah, and you. 256 00:16:01,460 --> 00:16:02,460 COUGHING 257 00:16:03,820 --> 00:16:07,459 Hello, is it Clive? Yes. Hello, Clive. 258 00:16:07,460 --> 00:16:09,499 My name is DC Fran Lingley, 259 00:16:09,500 --> 00:16:13,460 and I have some news about your brother, Matthew. 260 00:16:15,460 --> 00:16:16,460 Sweet cicely? 261 00:16:16,461 --> 00:16:19,459 'Yes, so it's native to the north, which means' 262 00:16:19,460 --> 00:16:21,459 you're very unlikely to find it growing wild down here. 263 00:16:21,460 --> 00:16:25,459 OK. 'So, within the rough area he was last seen in, 264 00:16:25,460 --> 00:16:26,460 'I'd be looking for' 265 00:16:26,461 --> 00:16:28,459 vegetable plots in gardens, or, 266 00:16:28,460 --> 00:16:31,459 and for me this is the most likely scenario, an allotment. 267 00:16:31,460 --> 00:16:34,299 Right. Thank you. 268 00:16:34,300 --> 00:16:37,299 And he is happy to come here? 'Yes, he is.' OK. 269 00:16:37,300 --> 00:16:39,820 'We're on our way back. Be there in about 20.' OK, see you then. 270 00:16:42,980 --> 00:16:45,300 OK, Clive. Shall we get going? 271 00:16:48,460 --> 00:16:52,459 Fran's found the brother. Whose brother? Matthew Walsh's. 272 00:16:52,460 --> 00:16:55,459 Turns out he was with Matthew the night he disappeared. No! 273 00:16:55,460 --> 00:16:57,700 He was having a pee in the bushes when the car pulled up. 274 00:16:58,460 --> 00:17:00,460 He saw everything. 275 00:17:05,460 --> 00:17:09,459 Yeah. I remember the case, because of his colour. 276 00:17:09,460 --> 00:17:11,459 Whose colour? 277 00:17:11,460 --> 00:17:13,459 The probationer involved in the altercation. 278 00:17:13,460 --> 00:17:17,459 So, you receive details that Walsh made a pass at a woman... 279 00:17:17,460 --> 00:17:18,460 Who was also a probie, I think. 280 00:17:18,461 --> 00:17:21,459 ..and she blanked him, and he got a bit lairy, 281 00:17:21,460 --> 00:17:23,459 and then a lad she was having a drink with intervened, 282 00:17:23,460 --> 00:17:24,460 and that's when it all kicked off? 283 00:17:24,461 --> 00:17:28,299 After Walsh made racially abusive remarks, I think. 284 00:17:28,300 --> 00:17:30,299 And I'm assuming it was just a bit of handbags, 285 00:17:30,300 --> 00:17:32,459 because Walsh only got cautioned? No, not at all. 286 00:17:32,460 --> 00:17:35,459 Walsh actually gave the lad a bit of a kicking. So... 287 00:17:35,460 --> 00:17:39,460 So, he was let off, because my sergeant wanted it buried. 288 00:17:41,300 --> 00:17:43,459 If Walsh had been charged, there would have been a court case, 289 00:17:43,460 --> 00:17:46,460 and the probationer would have got in trouble and... 290 00:17:47,460 --> 00:17:49,499 Obviously, we'd just started recruiting ethnic minorities, 291 00:17:49,500 --> 00:17:51,459 so it wouldn't have played out well for anyone. 292 00:17:51,460 --> 00:17:55,459 So, the fact there's no other names in this report, apart from Walsh's, 293 00:17:55,460 --> 00:17:56,460 that was deliberate? 294 00:17:56,461 --> 00:17:58,459 I didn't write this report, my sergeant did, 295 00:17:58,460 --> 00:18:00,500 and he's been dead ten years, but, yeah. 296 00:18:02,460 --> 00:18:06,459 I'm guessing he was protecting the witnesses, 297 00:18:06,460 --> 00:18:10,460 the girl, and very particularly, the Asian lad. 298 00:18:12,460 --> 00:18:14,459 And as we were walking across Napley Green, 299 00:18:14,460 --> 00:18:17,500 I decided to duck into the bush for a pee. 300 00:18:18,820 --> 00:18:23,459 Just as I did, I heard a shout, "Oi! Walshy boy!" 301 00:18:23,460 --> 00:18:28,459 I turned, and I saw this car about 50 yards away, 302 00:18:28,460 --> 00:18:30,459 with a bloke getting out the front passenger seat, 303 00:18:30,460 --> 00:18:32,459 and he was just running at Matty. 304 00:18:32,460 --> 00:18:35,979 And do you remember what he looked like? Asian guy. 305 00:18:35,980 --> 00:18:37,459 And what did your brother do? 306 00:18:37,460 --> 00:18:40,459 Well, he looked pretty useful and angry, 307 00:18:40,460 --> 00:18:44,459 and there was others in the car, so he just ran. 308 00:18:44,460 --> 00:18:48,459 And I had just a second or two to decide, you know, 309 00:18:48,460 --> 00:18:52,459 show him that there was two of us, make him think twice, maybe? 310 00:18:52,460 --> 00:18:57,460 I've never had a fight in my life, so I ducked down... 311 00:18:59,980 --> 00:19:01,460 ..and I hid. 312 00:19:03,460 --> 00:19:06,459 And then, the driver got out. 313 00:19:06,460 --> 00:19:10,500 Tall fella, ran off in the direction of the others. 314 00:19:12,460 --> 00:19:14,459 And then about 30 seconds later, the third man. 315 00:19:14,460 --> 00:19:16,460 I could still see two others in the back seats. 316 00:19:17,500 --> 00:19:20,459 After about five minutes, they got out as well 317 00:19:20,460 --> 00:19:24,460 and they were all quickly off in the direction the others had gone. 318 00:19:28,460 --> 00:19:31,979 But these two were women. 319 00:19:31,980 --> 00:19:34,459 And that was it. 320 00:19:34,460 --> 00:19:38,820 I never saw them, or my brother, again. 321 00:19:40,460 --> 00:19:44,459 Why did you never say anything about this at the time? 322 00:19:44,460 --> 00:19:48,459 I had a job. In Cyprus, in a club. 323 00:19:48,460 --> 00:19:50,459 I had to fly out the next day to start, 324 00:19:50,460 --> 00:19:52,459 but this was before mobile phones, 325 00:19:52,460 --> 00:19:56,299 so I didn't even hear that he was missing for weeks, 326 00:19:56,300 --> 00:20:00,499 and when I did get back, early June, pretty much everyone just reckoned 327 00:20:00,500 --> 00:20:04,459 he was lying low, because of the warrants that was out for him. 328 00:20:04,460 --> 00:20:08,460 Everyone reckoned he'd just turn up one day. 329 00:20:11,500 --> 00:20:14,820 Except me, because in my gut... 330 00:20:16,460 --> 00:20:19,460 ..I think I knew that he died that night. 331 00:20:21,460 --> 00:20:24,139 HE EXHALES 332 00:20:24,140 --> 00:20:27,459 And the reason I never said anything, 333 00:20:27,460 --> 00:20:31,459 that's because I did not want anyone to know 334 00:20:31,460 --> 00:20:35,980 what a snivelling gutless coward I was. 335 00:20:39,460 --> 00:20:40,460 Thank you. 336 00:20:47,500 --> 00:20:51,459 OK. So, we now know for sure that they all got out. 337 00:20:51,460 --> 00:20:53,299 And in pursuit of the victim. Exactly. 338 00:20:53,300 --> 00:20:54,459 Which means, as far as I'm concerned, 339 00:20:54,460 --> 00:20:57,980 they're definitely all in the frame now. 340 00:21:12,460 --> 00:21:14,459 So here is an allotment, 341 00:21:14,460 --> 00:21:19,459 and if we draw a line up from where the car stopped... 342 00:21:19,460 --> 00:21:23,459 up here... up here... 343 00:21:23,460 --> 00:21:27,459 and ending somewhere in the allotment, 344 00:21:27,460 --> 00:21:30,459 it fits very well with the various witness statement sightings 345 00:21:30,460 --> 00:21:32,659 at the chase. And if we can identify where exactly 346 00:21:32,660 --> 00:21:34,659 on the allotment this plant might've grown, 347 00:21:34,660 --> 00:21:37,459 we might find his actual place of death. Mm. 348 00:21:37,460 --> 00:21:38,460 I mean, my guess is... 349 00:21:38,461 --> 00:21:41,459 Look, it would had to have been near the road to pull the car up to. 350 00:21:41,460 --> 00:21:43,459 Maybe we can even get some boards up. 351 00:21:43,460 --> 00:21:46,459 Might trigger some more memories. Yeah, absolutely. 352 00:21:46,460 --> 00:21:48,459 OK, very good. Thank you. Caz? 353 00:21:48,460 --> 00:21:51,139 The only concrete thing I have is on Fiona Grayson. 354 00:21:51,140 --> 00:21:53,459 A 1993 dangerous driving conviction. 355 00:21:53,460 --> 00:21:55,459 Trying to get the original files. OK. 356 00:21:55,460 --> 00:21:58,459 But nothing on Elizabeth Baildon and nothing on... 357 00:21:58,460 --> 00:22:01,459 well, apart from his internal disciplinary record, 358 00:22:01,460 --> 00:22:03,299 on Ramjeet Sidhu. Which we're looking into. 359 00:22:03,300 --> 00:22:05,459 Yep. And Dean Barton, no criminal record. 360 00:22:05,460 --> 00:22:08,459 Although I am having trouble finding a couple of basic documents. 361 00:22:08,460 --> 00:22:09,979 I can't find his birth certificate 362 00:22:09,980 --> 00:22:12,459 and I can't find him on the census pre '91. OK. 363 00:22:12,460 --> 00:22:15,459 And something else just to feed in as background - 364 00:22:15,460 --> 00:22:19,459 all five of them had no guests at their passing-out parade. 365 00:22:19,460 --> 00:22:22,459 No family, no friends. No nothing. 366 00:22:22,460 --> 00:22:25,459 Yeah. It's one to mull on, maybe. 367 00:22:25,460 --> 00:22:28,459 And definitely a picture starting to emerge of Ram Sidhu 368 00:22:28,460 --> 00:22:30,459 being a person who pushed the envelope, even back then. 369 00:22:30,460 --> 00:22:33,459 We know he was probably first out the car, 370 00:22:33,460 --> 00:22:37,819 so was probably the most likely to catch up with Matthew first, 371 00:22:37,820 --> 00:22:40,140 and then, this afternoon... 372 00:22:41,460 --> 00:22:42,460 Murray slightly struck gold. 373 00:22:42,461 --> 00:22:45,459 So, three weeks before Matthew disappeared, 374 00:22:45,460 --> 00:22:49,459 we've got pretty good evidence to suggest that in a pub in Hendon, 375 00:22:49,460 --> 00:22:51,459 he committed an ABH on Ram Sidhu. 376 00:22:51,460 --> 00:22:53,459 No. The fight was over a girl. 377 00:22:53,460 --> 00:22:56,459 No names in the arrest sheet, but we know our suspects were a gang 378 00:22:56,460 --> 00:22:59,459 so there's a fair chance they were all drinking together that night 379 00:22:59,460 --> 00:23:02,459 and the girl was even Fiona Grayson or Liz Baildon. 380 00:23:02,460 --> 00:23:04,459 For various reasons, Walsh only got a caution 381 00:23:04,460 --> 00:23:09,459 and Murray's trying to track down Susie Montgomery, the landlady. 382 00:23:09,460 --> 00:23:11,459 But I think, alongside opportunity, 383 00:23:11,460 --> 00:23:15,460 fairly reasonable now to suggest we also have a possible motive. 384 00:23:16,500 --> 00:23:21,459 Albeit one that for whatever reason seems to have escalated 385 00:23:21,460 --> 00:23:23,500 from a reciprocal slap to something... 386 00:23:24,980 --> 00:23:28,459 ..far more violent and involving four other people. 387 00:23:28,460 --> 00:23:31,459 So, I think we pull Sidhu in now, confront him with this 388 00:23:31,460 --> 00:23:33,500 and see what we get. Thank you, guys. 389 00:23:47,460 --> 00:23:49,979 You don't think we should wait till Murray finds out 390 00:23:49,980 --> 00:23:52,459 if Montgomery's still around? I mean, if she can ID Sidhu 391 00:23:52,460 --> 00:23:54,459 or any one of the women... What are the chances? 392 00:23:54,460 --> 00:23:57,459 I mean, I was drinking in The Ifield just a few months later, 393 00:23:57,460 --> 00:24:00,139 and she was about 500 years old. 394 00:24:00,140 --> 00:24:04,460 So, no. Let's get him in now, please. 395 00:24:05,460 --> 00:24:06,460 Sure. 396 00:24:08,500 --> 00:24:11,459 DOOR OPENS AND SHUTS 397 00:24:11,460 --> 00:24:13,300 HER PHONE BUZZES 398 00:24:39,460 --> 00:24:40,460 Hiya. Hi. 399 00:24:40,461 --> 00:24:42,459 This is a nice surprise. Were you up anyway...? 400 00:24:42,460 --> 00:24:44,459 No, no, here on a whim. 401 00:24:44,460 --> 00:24:46,659 I thought, if you had half an hour, maybe we could just... 402 00:24:46,660 --> 00:24:49,459 Ah, love, no, I haven't got half an hour. 403 00:24:49,460 --> 00:24:50,499 OK, ten minutes? 404 00:24:50,500 --> 00:24:52,460 How about five? 405 00:24:54,460 --> 00:24:57,459 I don't generally take lunch. If you'd booked me last week or... 406 00:24:57,460 --> 00:25:00,139 "Booked you"? Well, OK. Sorry, I don't mean that like... 407 00:25:00,140 --> 00:25:02,139 No, no, no, it doesn't matter, it's fine. 408 00:25:02,140 --> 00:25:03,459 OK, I'll be quick, then. 409 00:25:03,460 --> 00:25:05,459 So, erm, I went into all the agencies near mine, 410 00:25:05,460 --> 00:25:07,459 got a list of all the properties within our range - 411 00:25:07,460 --> 00:25:09,459 that way we can get an idea of what we're after, 412 00:25:09,460 --> 00:25:13,459 so, why don't you take a look and we can discuss later? 413 00:25:13,460 --> 00:25:15,139 Ah... 414 00:25:15,140 --> 00:25:19,459 Oh, perfect. Thank you so much for doing that. 415 00:25:19,460 --> 00:25:21,459 Yeah, yeah, no problem. 416 00:25:21,460 --> 00:25:23,459 So have you spoken to your dad again? 417 00:25:23,460 --> 00:25:25,819 Er, not since Eddie took him out, no. 418 00:25:25,820 --> 00:25:28,459 I spoke to a lawyer, though. A lawyer? 419 00:25:28,460 --> 00:25:30,460 Yeah. Only from work, mate of a mate. 420 00:25:32,460 --> 00:25:35,460 I just wanted the top line on our rights. Cass... 421 00:25:36,460 --> 00:25:38,459 I mean, listen, it's your life, but... 422 00:25:38,460 --> 00:25:40,459 I don't think a lawyer is the way to go. 423 00:25:40,460 --> 00:25:42,460 Yeah, I know, I know, I just... 424 00:25:45,460 --> 00:25:49,139 Oh, f... fuck, I can't lose this anger, John. 425 00:25:49,140 --> 00:25:50,460 I wish I could, but... 426 00:25:51,460 --> 00:25:55,499 On top of everything else, that woman, she's just... she... 427 00:25:55,500 --> 00:25:58,459 Yeah, I know. I get that. I do, but... 428 00:25:58,460 --> 00:26:01,459 Please don't tell either of them you've spoken to a lawyer, 429 00:26:01,460 --> 00:26:03,820 because that'll just... Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know. 430 00:26:06,460 --> 00:26:08,140 Ah, I've got to go. 431 00:26:09,460 --> 00:26:13,459 I'll look at these later. And, erm... it's a nice idea. 432 00:26:13,460 --> 00:26:15,459 And next week, hopefully I'll be freer, 433 00:26:15,460 --> 00:26:16,460 and then let's do it properly. 434 00:26:16,461 --> 00:26:18,459 Yeah, I'll book you in (!) Ha. Piss off. 435 00:26:18,460 --> 00:26:19,820 HE CHUCKLES 436 00:26:26,460 --> 00:26:27,460 Hey. 437 00:26:33,460 --> 00:26:36,459 Been trying to get hold of you. Claire had no idea where you were. 438 00:26:36,460 --> 00:26:37,819 Well, I was at the meeting, why? 439 00:26:37,820 --> 00:26:41,459 Jack's temperature's gone up to 101. Oh, no. 440 00:26:41,460 --> 00:26:44,139 Do you think it's another infection? I dunno. 441 00:26:44,140 --> 00:26:47,459 But his chest sounds dreadful, so... so I've called the GP. 442 00:26:47,460 --> 00:26:50,460 All right, I'll... I'll go and see him. 443 00:26:51,460 --> 00:26:54,460 You never told me the police had interviewed you. 444 00:27:01,140 --> 00:27:03,459 Yeah, Claire made some joke about you being banged up 445 00:27:03,460 --> 00:27:05,460 when I asked her where you were. 446 00:27:06,460 --> 00:27:09,459 Apparently, a detective came to the office the other day? 447 00:27:09,460 --> 00:27:11,460 Yeah, I didn't wanna worry you. 448 00:27:12,460 --> 00:27:13,460 What was it about? 449 00:27:18,460 --> 00:27:19,460 Not that. 450 00:27:20,460 --> 00:27:22,460 No? No. 451 00:27:24,300 --> 00:27:27,460 There's nothing that's ever gonna be able to connect us to that now. 452 00:27:29,460 --> 00:27:31,460 Promise. 453 00:27:33,460 --> 00:27:37,299 So what was it about? Oh, just some weird... 454 00:27:37,300 --> 00:27:40,299 historical case, some 30-year-old murder. 455 00:27:40,300 --> 00:27:42,459 They thought I might've known one of the suspects. 456 00:27:42,460 --> 00:27:44,459 Jesus. Did you? 457 00:27:44,460 --> 00:27:45,499 No, of course not. 458 00:27:45,500 --> 00:27:49,460 The interview lasted five minutes, it's fine. 459 00:27:50,460 --> 00:27:52,460 I'm gonna go up and see the lad. 460 00:28:03,300 --> 00:28:05,459 CASS: 30th March 1990. 461 00:28:05,460 --> 00:28:08,459 The day of your passing-out parade. You remember it? Of course. 462 00:28:08,460 --> 00:28:10,460 Good day? Lovely. 463 00:28:11,460 --> 00:28:14,459 Proud of your achievement? Very. 464 00:28:14,460 --> 00:28:17,459 So why no family there? To share your day with you. 465 00:28:17,460 --> 00:28:19,459 HE CHUCKLES 466 00:28:19,460 --> 00:28:22,459 Er, because I was supposed to be a doctor or a lawyer or... 467 00:28:22,460 --> 00:28:24,459 go into the family business, apparently. 468 00:28:24,460 --> 00:28:26,299 And how did that make you feel, 469 00:28:26,300 --> 00:28:28,459 that no-one came to celebrate with you? 470 00:28:28,460 --> 00:28:32,459 Sad, but I knew they'd come round, which they did, I think. 471 00:28:32,460 --> 00:28:34,460 They're very proud of me now. 472 00:28:35,660 --> 00:28:39,459 You went to a party that night. Yeah. 473 00:28:39,460 --> 00:28:43,459 Erm, do you remember who you went with? No. 474 00:28:43,460 --> 00:28:47,459 Or what time you left? 30 years later? No, sorry. 475 00:28:47,460 --> 00:28:50,460 OK. Erm, do you remember who you left with? 476 00:28:51,460 --> 00:28:54,659 A couple of them, yeah. OK, who was that? 477 00:28:54,660 --> 00:28:58,460 Rob and Liz - Fogerty and Baildon. OK. 478 00:29:01,460 --> 00:29:02,460 Well, completely understandably, 479 00:29:02,461 --> 00:29:06,459 you couldn't remember who you went with, but, er... 480 00:29:06,460 --> 00:29:07,659 quickly remembered who you left with. 481 00:29:07,660 --> 00:29:10,819 Is there a reason that those names have stuck in your mind? 482 00:29:10,820 --> 00:29:13,459 Because of something that happened that night. 483 00:29:13,460 --> 00:29:15,459 What was that? 484 00:29:15,460 --> 00:29:17,459 Er, so... 485 00:29:17,460 --> 00:29:21,459 Rob, who was our designated driver, 486 00:29:21,460 --> 00:29:22,460 unbeknownst to any of us, 487 00:29:22,461 --> 00:29:25,459 had actually had a few drinks that night. 488 00:29:25,460 --> 00:29:27,459 Dumb luck on the way back into town, he got pulled over 489 00:29:27,460 --> 00:29:29,459 by the traffic cop, he was breathalysed, 490 00:29:29,460 --> 00:29:32,460 was over the limit and... he was nicked. 491 00:29:33,460 --> 00:29:35,459 Ended his career before it even started. 492 00:29:35,460 --> 00:29:36,460 So he got nicked, he got taken away, 493 00:29:36,461 --> 00:29:39,660 how did you then get home after that? I think... 494 00:29:41,460 --> 00:29:43,460 ..Lizzie was allowed to drive Rob's car, I think... 495 00:29:45,300 --> 00:29:47,459 ..she dropped us off in town first 496 00:29:47,460 --> 00:29:49,819 and then dropped Rob's car at his house. 497 00:29:49,820 --> 00:29:53,459 And, erm... you still see Liz Baildon? 498 00:29:53,460 --> 00:29:55,459 No. I mean, at the odd police event, but no more than that. 499 00:29:55,460 --> 00:29:59,460 Have you discussed this with her over the past few days? No. 500 00:30:00,460 --> 00:30:05,460 OK. Because your recollections are... pretty much identical. 501 00:30:06,460 --> 00:30:09,459 Mm, yeah. It's what happened, so... HE CHUCKLES 502 00:30:09,460 --> 00:30:11,459 And you don't remember any of the people in the car? 503 00:30:11,460 --> 00:30:13,459 No. 504 00:30:13,460 --> 00:30:16,460 Dean Barton? Fiona Grayson? 505 00:30:17,460 --> 00:30:19,460 Mm... I'm sorry. 506 00:30:20,460 --> 00:30:22,459 And when the car was stopped by the police officer, 507 00:30:22,460 --> 00:30:26,139 was that the first time that journey that it had stopped? 508 00:30:26,140 --> 00:30:28,460 Yeah. OK. 509 00:30:30,460 --> 00:30:33,459 So, I'm gonna show you a photo of a man now. 510 00:30:33,460 --> 00:30:38,459 The victim in this investigation, in fact. Name of Matthew Walsh. 511 00:30:38,460 --> 00:30:40,459 And I'd just like to know if his face 512 00:30:40,460 --> 00:30:42,460 is in any way familiar to you. 513 00:30:43,460 --> 00:30:45,460 TENSE STING 514 00:30:46,460 --> 00:30:47,460 No. 515 00:30:49,460 --> 00:30:50,460 Well, have a good look. 516 00:30:54,460 --> 00:30:55,460 No. 517 00:30:56,460 --> 00:30:58,459 OK. 518 00:30:58,460 --> 00:31:02,459 I ask because we have a witness who says he saw a car 519 00:31:02,460 --> 00:31:05,459 with five people in it, one unusually tall man, 520 00:31:05,460 --> 00:31:08,499 two women and an Asian man pull up near a patch of ground 521 00:31:08,500 --> 00:31:10,459 called Napley Green. 522 00:31:10,460 --> 00:31:12,459 Now, this is about a mile before 523 00:31:12,460 --> 00:31:15,459 where you were pulled over by the traffic cop. 524 00:31:15,460 --> 00:31:17,459 And the witness says that one of the men, 525 00:31:17,460 --> 00:31:21,659 that matches your description, got out, calling, "Oi, Walshy boy!" 526 00:31:21,660 --> 00:31:25,299 and then chased after the victim. Ss... 527 00:31:25,300 --> 00:31:26,459 So, is your witness white? 528 00:31:26,460 --> 00:31:28,459 What does that have to do with anything? 529 00:31:28,460 --> 00:31:30,459 OK, I'm not being funny or anything, but to them, 530 00:31:30,460 --> 00:31:32,459 we do all slightly look the same. 531 00:31:32,460 --> 00:31:34,459 So you don't recognise this event? 532 00:31:34,460 --> 00:31:38,459 You don't recognise the name, Matthew Walsh, or indeed his face? 533 00:31:38,460 --> 00:31:40,459 In fact, none of this rings any bells? 534 00:31:40,460 --> 00:31:41,460 No, I'm sorry. OK. 535 00:31:42,460 --> 00:31:46,459 So, I think that you know perfectly well who Matthew Walsh is, 536 00:31:46,460 --> 00:31:47,460 and I think you know him 537 00:31:47,461 --> 00:31:49,459 because only three weeks before this incident, 538 00:31:49,460 --> 00:31:51,459 I think you had a racially instigated fight with him 539 00:31:51,460 --> 00:31:54,459 in a pub in Hendon. What evidence have you got for this allegation? 540 00:31:54,460 --> 00:31:56,979 This was in The Ifield. Yeah. What evidence? 541 00:31:56,980 --> 00:31:58,459 Did you used to drink in there? HE SCOFFS 542 00:31:58,460 --> 00:32:01,500 Listen... HE LAUGHS 543 00:32:02,980 --> 00:32:06,459 ..I don't know where you're coming from with all this, but... 544 00:32:06,460 --> 00:32:08,459 I'll give you the benefit of the doubt 545 00:32:08,460 --> 00:32:11,459 and assume it's not from the same place as 90% of the crap 546 00:32:11,460 --> 00:32:13,460 I have to deal with comes from... but... 547 00:32:16,460 --> 00:32:18,460 ..you have nothing here. 548 00:32:19,460 --> 00:32:23,459 I mean, a witness comes out of the woodwork 30 years after the event 549 00:32:23,460 --> 00:32:25,459 and says he saw an Asian guy get out of a car, 550 00:32:25,460 --> 00:32:27,459 and then a random Paki in a pub? 551 00:32:27,460 --> 00:32:29,460 HE CHUCKLES Are you serious? 552 00:32:32,460 --> 00:32:35,460 Sorry, guys, but I think we're done here. 553 00:32:46,460 --> 00:32:48,459 Don't, just... 554 00:32:48,460 --> 00:32:50,459 I just think we need to slow down, boss. 555 00:32:50,460 --> 00:32:52,460 I just want it over. 556 00:32:53,460 --> 00:32:55,460 I shouldn't even be here. 557 00:33:14,140 --> 00:33:17,459 So I heard her, the other day. 558 00:33:17,460 --> 00:33:19,500 The police officer with you. 559 00:33:21,140 --> 00:33:22,460 I'm sorry? Me too. 560 00:33:23,460 --> 00:33:25,460 That I have to resort to this. 561 00:33:27,460 --> 00:33:29,460 You should've been better, Elizabeth. 562 00:33:31,460 --> 00:33:33,460 I'm sorry, Eugenia. 563 00:33:34,460 --> 00:33:37,459 I have no idea what you're talking about. 564 00:33:37,460 --> 00:33:41,459 I'm not a greedy person. I don't want luxuries. 565 00:33:41,460 --> 00:33:44,459 But I do want to be able to heat our flat, 566 00:33:44,460 --> 00:33:48,459 to feed my child properly, and once in a while, 567 00:33:48,460 --> 00:33:51,980 very rarely, buy her a pretty dress from Primark. 568 00:33:53,460 --> 00:33:57,139 So, really, not a lot. And a fraction of what you have. 569 00:33:57,140 --> 00:33:59,459 But still, apparently, too much for you. 570 00:33:59,460 --> 00:34:02,500 No, I didn't say that. ยฃ287. 571 00:34:03,500 --> 00:34:07,660 My overdue gas bill. And ยฃ9 an hour. 572 00:34:10,460 --> 00:34:13,459 That's what I'm blackmailing you for. 573 00:34:13,460 --> 00:34:15,459 Which sounds pathetic. 574 00:34:15,460 --> 00:34:16,460 Even to me. 575 00:34:17,460 --> 00:34:20,459 But if you don't give me this, I will tell the police 576 00:34:20,460 --> 00:34:21,460 what your mother told me. 577 00:34:23,460 --> 00:34:25,140 Which I don't think you want. 578 00:34:27,460 --> 00:34:28,460 So... 579 00:34:29,460 --> 00:34:31,459 ..have a think and then maybe... 580 00:34:31,460 --> 00:34:35,460 No, I don't have to have a think. You can have it. 581 00:34:52,660 --> 00:34:54,460 Hey! 582 00:35:01,660 --> 00:35:03,459 I just had a call from my brother. 583 00:35:03,460 --> 00:35:06,459 He said he could not, in all conscience, 584 00:35:06,460 --> 00:35:09,459 keep what you told him from me. 585 00:35:09,460 --> 00:35:14,459 And so, I was just wondering... if you had a conscience. 586 00:35:14,460 --> 00:35:17,979 I was just wondering if you felt you could maybe give your partner 587 00:35:17,980 --> 00:35:20,460 a bit of a heads up as to what the fuck was going on. 588 00:35:35,460 --> 00:35:37,660 27 years ago... 589 00:35:42,140 --> 00:35:43,460 ..I killed a child. 590 00:35:53,460 --> 00:35:57,460 They said I was speeding. Doing 42 in a 30-mile area. 591 00:35:58,460 --> 00:36:01,460 And I lost control going round a corner. 592 00:36:03,140 --> 00:36:05,460 I actually think she was on the wrong side of the road. 593 00:36:07,460 --> 00:36:10,300 Either way... we collided. 594 00:36:11,460 --> 00:36:13,459 And there was a toddler in the back. 595 00:36:13,460 --> 00:36:14,980 In a car seat. 596 00:36:16,460 --> 00:36:17,580 It wasn't properly fastened. 597 00:36:19,460 --> 00:36:20,460 And he died. 598 00:36:22,460 --> 00:36:23,460 The little boy. 599 00:36:24,460 --> 00:36:29,460 And I received a conviction for death by dangerous driving. 600 00:36:32,460 --> 00:36:36,659 How... how could you never have told me this? 601 00:36:36,660 --> 00:36:39,460 I know, I'm so, so, so sorry. 602 00:36:42,460 --> 00:36:45,460 Was it your fault? I don't think so. 603 00:36:47,460 --> 00:36:49,980 But I'm not sure I'll ever really know. 604 00:36:52,500 --> 00:36:54,820 I'm just stunned, Fi, that you... 605 00:36:56,460 --> 00:37:01,459 ..felt you could keep something so significant from me for 17 years, 606 00:37:01,460 --> 00:37:03,459 how do you do that? 607 00:37:03,460 --> 00:37:06,460 How do you do that and stay sane? I mean... 608 00:37:09,460 --> 00:37:11,460 ..is there anything else you need to tell me? 609 00:37:13,460 --> 00:37:15,460 No. That's it. 610 00:37:21,460 --> 00:37:24,980 If we lose our deposit... I swear, Fiona... 611 00:37:32,500 --> 00:37:35,459 RAM: I mean, what do people want the police to be? 612 00:37:35,460 --> 00:37:37,140 Mm? 613 00:37:37,980 --> 00:37:40,459 Do they want us to be like them, 614 00:37:40,460 --> 00:37:43,459 just normal human beings who will screw up, 615 00:37:43,460 --> 00:37:46,459 who will make mistakes? We all accept that. 616 00:37:46,460 --> 00:37:49,659 We all say sorry and move on, and that's the deal. 617 00:37:49,660 --> 00:37:51,459 HE SIGHS 618 00:37:51,460 --> 00:37:53,979 Or do they want to believe that we're not the same, 619 00:37:53,980 --> 00:37:57,459 that we've got some kind of special powers that they don't? 620 00:37:57,460 --> 00:37:59,820 Cos, you know, that makes them feel safer in their beds. 621 00:38:03,140 --> 00:38:04,460 What do they want? 622 00:38:05,460 --> 00:38:08,459 Cos it's got to be one or the other. It can't be both. 623 00:38:08,460 --> 00:38:10,819 Mate, I can't even work the Apple remote, so... 624 00:38:10,820 --> 00:38:12,460 HE LAUGHS 625 00:38:17,980 --> 00:38:20,460 DRINK BEING POURED 626 00:38:22,460 --> 00:38:23,460 Hey, what's the matter? 627 00:38:24,980 --> 00:38:26,460 Hey, hey, hey. 628 00:38:28,820 --> 00:38:30,460 What's wrong, babe? 629 00:38:31,460 --> 00:38:33,460 Do you ever get angry, Dean? 630 00:38:34,980 --> 00:38:37,460 At Jack. At Jack? 631 00:38:39,460 --> 00:38:42,460 Yeah, and I don't just mean for being naughty, I mean for... 632 00:38:44,460 --> 00:38:45,820 ..for being him. 633 00:38:47,820 --> 00:38:49,980 Erm, no. No. 634 00:38:53,500 --> 00:38:55,460 I do. 635 00:38:56,460 --> 00:38:58,460 Sometimes, not often, like... 636 00:39:00,460 --> 00:39:04,460 ..half a dozen times in his entire life, maybe I, erm... 637 00:39:08,460 --> 00:39:09,460 I blame him. 638 00:39:11,460 --> 00:39:14,460 I blame HIM, not his disability. 639 00:39:19,460 --> 00:39:22,459 For what I tell myself he's stolen from us. 640 00:39:22,460 --> 00:39:24,460 From you, from me. 641 00:39:25,460 --> 00:39:28,460 From Cass. Marn... And I am telling you this, Dean... 642 00:39:31,460 --> 00:39:34,459 ..because I want you to know that I am not who you think I am. 643 00:39:34,460 --> 00:39:38,459 That part of me is just an awful person. 644 00:39:38,460 --> 00:39:42,459 But an awful person who, well, at least, I hope, 645 00:39:42,460 --> 00:39:45,979 despite what I have just told you, you still love. 646 00:39:45,980 --> 00:39:47,459 Of course. 647 00:39:47,460 --> 00:39:52,459 So, surely, surely, that means you can tell me stuff. 648 00:39:52,460 --> 00:39:53,460 About your past. 649 00:39:55,500 --> 00:39:58,460 And about your family - whoever they are. 650 00:40:00,460 --> 00:40:03,460 Things that maybe you think will make me... 651 00:40:04,660 --> 00:40:09,460 ..hate you or fear you or whatever, I dunno, because it just won't. 652 00:40:12,460 --> 00:40:15,979 But what is killing me is the secrets. 653 00:40:15,980 --> 00:40:18,460 The years of secrets. 654 00:40:19,460 --> 00:40:25,300 Of writing a Mother's Day card to a mother you told me had died. 655 00:40:26,460 --> 00:40:28,139 Going to Calais when we were supposed 656 00:40:28,140 --> 00:40:29,459 to have given up all that crap years ago. 657 00:40:29,460 --> 00:40:33,459 Lying about where you are today, I can't take it anymore. 658 00:40:33,460 --> 00:40:35,459 I just can't take the secrets and lies, 659 00:40:35,460 --> 00:40:38,459 not when we've got so much else to deal with. 660 00:40:38,460 --> 00:40:41,460 So, please... just talk to me, Dean. 661 00:40:43,460 --> 00:40:46,459 You're tired, Marn. I am too. No, Dean. 662 00:40:46,460 --> 00:40:49,459 We will do this... but not now. 663 00:40:49,460 --> 00:40:52,460 Please. Dean. Please. 664 00:40:56,460 --> 00:40:59,460 He's just down there at the end. OK. Cheers, mate. 665 00:41:15,460 --> 00:41:16,499 So, those are the original files 666 00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:20,299 connected to Fiona Grayson's driving conviction in '93. 667 00:41:20,300 --> 00:41:23,459 And it turns out that a child died during this incident 668 00:41:23,460 --> 00:41:25,659 in the car that she collided with. Wow. 669 00:41:25,660 --> 00:41:28,459 One of the officers attending smelt alcohol on Fiona's breath, 670 00:41:28,460 --> 00:41:31,299 and so obviously tried to give her a test at the time, 671 00:41:31,300 --> 00:41:33,459 but she was so upset, crying hysterically, 672 00:41:33,460 --> 00:41:35,459 that they were unable to successfully give her one 673 00:41:35,460 --> 00:41:38,459 at the scene, so she was arrested and taken to the local nick 674 00:41:38,460 --> 00:41:40,459 where a blood test was taken there instead. And? 675 00:41:40,460 --> 00:41:44,459 It was lost. Lost? Lost where, the lab or the nick? 676 00:41:44,460 --> 00:41:46,459 The nick. Before it got sent to the lab. 677 00:41:46,460 --> 00:41:47,460 Which nick was this? 678 00:41:47,461 --> 00:41:50,459 Kingston. Are you heading where I think you're heading? 679 00:41:50,460 --> 00:41:53,459 So I checked where both Ram Sidhu and Liz Baildon worked at the time. 680 00:41:53,460 --> 00:41:57,459 And? Baildon worked at Kingston nick from '91 to '94. 681 00:41:57,460 --> 00:42:02,459 Oh, man. Yep. And in the '91 census, it details Liz and Fiona 682 00:42:02,460 --> 00:42:04,459 as living at the same address in Thames Ditton, 683 00:42:04,460 --> 00:42:06,819 about a mile or so from Kingston town centre. 684 00:42:06,820 --> 00:42:08,459 But at the time of this offence, 685 00:42:08,460 --> 00:42:11,459 they're living at separate addresses but both are still in the same area. 686 00:42:11,460 --> 00:42:14,459 If that blood test had come back positive, 687 00:42:14,460 --> 00:42:16,459 Fiona Grayson would be in jail. Definitely. 688 00:42:16,460 --> 00:42:19,459 OK, so there are three explanations here. 689 00:42:19,460 --> 00:42:21,460 One, this was just a coincidence. 690 00:42:22,660 --> 00:42:26,459 Two, they were an item and she contrived 691 00:42:26,460 --> 00:42:30,459 to have the blood sample lost for personal reasons. 692 00:42:30,460 --> 00:42:31,460 And then, three... 693 00:42:33,460 --> 00:42:34,460 ..they weren't an item... 694 00:42:35,820 --> 00:42:37,459 ..but Liz Baildon was blackmailed. 695 00:42:37,460 --> 00:42:40,459 Fiona Grayson using whatever the fuck happened with Matthew Walsh 696 00:42:40,460 --> 00:42:43,460 as some kind of... leverage. 697 00:42:44,500 --> 00:42:47,459 I know what my money's on. Mm. 698 00:42:47,460 --> 00:42:48,460 PHONE RINGS 699 00:42:51,460 --> 00:42:52,460 Leanne. 700 00:42:52,461 --> 00:42:55,459 Hey. Cass. Any chance you could pop in for five minutes 701 00:42:55,460 --> 00:42:56,460 when you have a chance? 702 00:42:58,460 --> 00:42:59,460 What can I say? 703 00:43:01,140 --> 00:43:06,460 Just now, we found out, just now, this actually happened. 704 00:43:10,460 --> 00:43:13,460 I feel differently. Oh, Jesus, Ram. I know. 705 00:43:14,460 --> 00:43:16,459 I'm sorry, but... 706 00:43:16,460 --> 00:43:20,459 I've just spent the last seven days slightly killing myself mentally 707 00:43:20,460 --> 00:43:21,460 to get to where you were. 708 00:43:23,460 --> 00:43:25,459 Trying somehow to find a way of thinking 709 00:43:25,460 --> 00:43:28,300 that we didn't have to do this thing. 710 00:43:30,460 --> 00:43:31,460 This brutal... 711 00:43:32,460 --> 00:43:34,460 ..really horrible thing. 712 00:43:37,460 --> 00:43:39,459 You just changed your mind. No. 713 00:43:39,460 --> 00:43:42,460 I... I just, erm... 714 00:43:44,460 --> 00:43:46,459 HE EXHALES 715 00:43:46,460 --> 00:43:50,459 What if something happened to me? What if I got ill or... 716 00:43:50,460 --> 00:43:54,459 I don't know, anything, that meant you had to do it all on your own? 717 00:43:54,460 --> 00:43:57,979 You know, I just started to think how difficult that would be for you. 718 00:43:57,980 --> 00:44:00,459 I mean, I'm not definitely saying we do go for termination, 719 00:44:00,460 --> 00:44:03,460 I'm not saying that yet, I'm just saying... can we...? 720 00:44:04,500 --> 00:44:08,460 We can keep thinking... for a bit longer. 721 00:44:15,980 --> 00:44:17,140 OK. 722 00:44:18,460 --> 00:44:21,459 OK, am I seeing what I think I'm seeing? 723 00:44:21,460 --> 00:44:27,459 So, I'm seeing a sharp-ended object approximately ten centimetres long, 724 00:44:27,460 --> 00:44:31,819 maybe three quarters of a centimetre wide inside the skull cavity. 725 00:44:31,820 --> 00:44:34,299 And what do we think that is? No idea. 726 00:44:34,300 --> 00:44:37,459 I need to open the skull up now. It got in pre or postmortem? 727 00:44:37,460 --> 00:44:39,459 Again, I don't know until I open it up. 728 00:44:39,460 --> 00:44:42,459 But best guess? From its position, you would logically assume 729 00:44:42,460 --> 00:44:44,459 it entered through the temporal bone fracture, 730 00:44:44,460 --> 00:44:46,459 which, when I examined it properly, 731 00:44:46,460 --> 00:44:50,459 actually contained remnants of brick dust, so... 732 00:44:50,460 --> 00:44:51,460 two theories, 733 00:44:51,461 --> 00:44:54,459 firstly, he was being chased and at some point, 734 00:44:54,460 --> 00:44:58,139 he tripped and fell, hitting his head on a wall, 735 00:44:58,140 --> 00:45:00,459 which maybe had a metal spike of some sort, 736 00:45:00,460 --> 00:45:03,459 an old bolt from some railings or whatever, 737 00:45:03,460 --> 00:45:07,459 and this is what killed him, breaking off inside the skull. 738 00:45:07,460 --> 00:45:09,459 Or... 739 00:45:09,460 --> 00:45:11,459 he tripped and fell, hitting his head, 740 00:45:11,460 --> 00:45:14,459 which rendered him unconscious and, whilst unconscious, 741 00:45:14,460 --> 00:45:18,459 he was basically stabbed through the head wound with this object. 742 00:45:18,460 --> 00:45:21,459 Jeez. Yeah. So... 743 00:45:21,460 --> 00:45:26,460 first theory, the chase that went tragically, but accidentally, wrong. 744 00:45:29,460 --> 00:45:33,460 Second theory... this was no accident. 745 00:45:35,460 --> 00:45:39,460 This was a very violent and very deliberate... 746 00:45:40,460 --> 00:45:42,660 ..murder. Correct. 747 00:45:47,820 --> 00:45:49,980 Subtitles by accessibility@itv.com 60083

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