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'Our imperative is to find out
exactly what did happen that night,
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'and right now,
I have lots of questions.'
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If there is anything to find,
it's gonna be with the head.
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'Fogerty had four other
probationers from Hendon with him.'
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One of them was you.
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Am I a suspect here?
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I think we talk Friday
about my money.
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We think you can help us
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throw some light on the events of
an evening 30 years ago. We're done.
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And whoever sent you from upstairs,
tell them, "Nice try, but no cigar."
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It's me, we need to meet.
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Evening, everybody.
DCI Cassie Stuart.
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I do remember Rob on that night,
of course, how could you not?
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But not this lad.
Do not tell your brother this.
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I have a criminal conviction.
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If we lost that money,
you could ruin us.
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And what would you do for me
in return?
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I want my half to go to charity.
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Given what I know that
you'll be doing for me.
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I get it, Grandad. I understand.
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Could I just run a few other names
past you? Liz Baildon? No.
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What are you doing? Are you insane?
Tomorrow, 11 o'clock.
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Pay for your train ticket in cash.
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'I have a witness, who can confirm
that Walsh was being chased.
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'The chase suggests that his murder
was in some way provoked.'
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Jake?
I found the rest of him.
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โช All we do is hide away
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โช All we do is
All we do is hide away
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โช All we do is lie and wait
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โช All we do is
All we do is lie in wait
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โช I've been upside down
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โช I don't wanna be
The right way round
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โช Can't find paradise
On the ground. โช
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DOOR OPENS AND CLOSES
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'Hey-ya.'
Hey.
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So, how did it go?
Yeah, good.
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And?
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I think you need to let it go, Mum.
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He knows exactly what he's doing,
it's got nothing to do with her.
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Right.
Sorry.
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No, fine.
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Just don't come running to me
in ten years' time
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when you've got no money
for a deposit on a flat.
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Right. Yeah, well...
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Now I know. Thanks for that.
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I am so sorry.
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Don't be daft, it's not your fault.
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So, um, welcome home.
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Well, that sounds very nice.
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Doesn't it?
HE CHUCKLES, THEY SIGH
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GIRLS LAUGH How are the girls?
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Oh, very excited to have
their own rooms, as you can hear.
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GIRLS LAUGH Yeah.
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I need more of this.
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COUGHING
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What's this?
Year 10 debating prize. I won it.
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When was this?
Yesterday.
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Erm, I did tell you I was doing it,
but... You had Jack's evening, so...
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Oh, mate. Well done.
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So well done.
That is just brilliant.
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And... I'm so sorry
if we're not always on it.
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You know, he takes up
a lot of our time.
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But you...
You're an absolute star.
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Really are.
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Wow, he looks almost... mummified.
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Well, with the fridge unplugged
and open,
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that's pretty much what's happened.
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Can we be sure it is Matthew?
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I'll be sending samples for DNA,
obviously, but it is male,
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we have laryngeal prominence here,
and a quick look at the teeth
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certainly suggests
the right age group.
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And you know
what I'm gonna ask next?
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The answer is a cautious maybe.
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There's a depressed fracture
over the temple here,
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which certainly has to be
a contender for cause of death,
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but let me do an X-ray, open him up,
and then let's see where we are. OK.
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And did Jay call you yet?
Jay? The forensic botanist?
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He's had some interesting results
on the leaf material on the T-shirt.
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Er, no.
Anyway, he'll call you.
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So, Murray's had a quick squint
through the mobile phone records.
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No indication that any of them
are speaking to each other yet.
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Well, not on
their regular phones, no.
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We are also looking into
phone mast data.
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Cheers, Leanne. We'll speak later.
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Hi. DC Fran Lingley.
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Trying to trace a man
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we believe may have stayed here
a few years ago.
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Wondered if you had any records
on him. Name of Clive Walsh.
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Also, I spoke to Hendon first thing.
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Trying to locate that intake's
lead trainer for us. Yeah.
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I just think the more of a sense
we can get of them as people,
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cos if this was a murder,
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that is just such
an extraordinary thing
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for five newbie coppers
to have been involved with.
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That just doesn't come
out of nowhere, does it?
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Er, yeah, OK. The last record
we've got of Clive,
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he's been given a residential place
just under two years ago
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in a halfway house in Bow.
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Fiona?
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Lizzie. Hello.
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I have to search you, I'm afraid.
I'm sorry?
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I have to check
you're not wearing a wire.
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Wearing...?!
SHE SCOFFS
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Jesus, Liz. What do you think of me?
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Or I'll walk away.
Liz!
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OK. OK. Oh, my God.
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I need to see your phone.
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I need to know you're not recording
anything. Thank you.
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So... I presume they've
spoken to you? The police?
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Yes.
But what have you said?
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I just told 'em the truth, Fiona.
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Like we agreed. I hope you did too.
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Oh, fuck! No. Sorry.
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It was 30 years ago.
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What did you tell them, then?
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I told them...
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..I was too drunk
to remember anything.
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OK. Well, that can work for now.
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And if they interview you again,
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then the truth can slowly
come back to you.
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Right.
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You remember it?
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Erm...
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..after Rob got pulled,
you drove the rest of us home...
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..before taking his car back to his,
which was near where you lived.
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And how did I get from Rob's
to my flat? You walked? Good.
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And, erm...
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..what if they find out
about the pub?
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They won't find out about the pub.
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They have no connection to us
in the pub. No names, anywhere.
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They might find someone. That's
what they do. You should know.
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What if they find out about the pub?
They might find out about the rest.
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About what you did for me.
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They might find out
about everything.
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I'm sorry. I can't...
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I can't just be cold and hard
about it like you can.
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I'm trying to remain
as dispassionate as possible.
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I think it's the most useful thing
to do right now.
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I have to go.
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If you need to contact me,
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I've set up a Hotmail,
Betty two-nine-zero-two.
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You're still beautiful, Fi.
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I hope your life has been happy.
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MURRAY: 'So, three weeks before
Matthew Walsh goes missing,
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'he was cautioned
for an incident in a pub.'
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A physical altercation
with another drinker.
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'Now, he wasn't charged,
so it can't have been that serious,
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'but the reason I mention it is cos
of the pub it was in, The Ifield.'
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What, our Ifield?
'Hendon Lane.'
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Now, pretty much everyone
who trained at the academy
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drank at The Ifield.
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'So, I was thinking...'
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What are the chances the ruck
he had was with a probationer?
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Exactly.
Nice. I like that, Murray.
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I like that very much.
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Ian Henderson?
DCI Cassie Stuart, DI Sunny Khan.
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'Yeah, I trained all five of them.'
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'OK, can we start with Ram,
then, please?'
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'Ram hasn't changed in 30 years.
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'He was a cocky little runt
back then,
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'and from what I've heard,
he's still a cocky little runt now.
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'Used to play the race card
at every opportunity.
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'Still does, from what I hear.'
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When you say, "Play the race card",
what do you mean?
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Objects to being called a Paki
on a daily basis?
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You come from Wales,
you get called Taff, Scotland, Jock,
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it's the same difference.
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It isn't, but let's maybe
not go there right now.
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So, aside from being cocky,
what was he like as a person?
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Was he good copper material?
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Here's the deal. I always thought
Ram would go right to the top,
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'or end up in prison.'
'Prison?'
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'Listen, the lad was a smart boy,
there's no doubt about that.
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'He was ambitious, charismatic,
very funny, people liked him.'
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'He was also fucking angry.'
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He had a massive chip
on his shoulder about his colour.
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You combine that with his
risk-taking and his liking power
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a bit much,
well, it makes him dangerous.
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The proof of the pudding,
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you check his disciplinary record
over the years, yeah?
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I mean, the guy obviously thought
he was untouchable.
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And worse still,
that he had a right to be.
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Now, personally,
I think if he'd been white,
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he'd have been inside by now.
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So, you think he could have been
capable of breaking the law. 100%.
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Did you see anything, anything
specific when you worked with him
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that led you to this conclusion?
No.
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So, it's just
a generalised prejudice, then?
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You wanted my opinion,
I've given it ya. OK, moving on.
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SHE SIGHS Dean Barton.
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'Deano. Oh, well,
Deano was the polar opposite.
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'One of the most instinctive coppers
I ever trained.
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'Fast-thinking, very analytical
brain, great team player.
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'OK, so...'
Hello, mate.
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All right, Ram.
'Dean told me that he left, '
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because he didn't think
he was a team player.
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All right, let me rephrase that.
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On the job, he worked well
alongside the others, yeah?
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But, er, yeah, socially,
yeah, I'd agree with you.
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Yeah, he was a loner. Very private.
Secretive, almost.
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But honest? You trusted him?
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Deano? He was a straight as a die.
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So, tell me about Liz Baildon.
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'Unsurprisingly, a natural.
Yeah, the Prof, we used to call her.
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'Great under pressure,
very level-headed.
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'Oh, she's a great team leader.
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'She had a way of motivating people
effortlessly.'
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And was she out then?
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No, the climate was different
to today.
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It wasn't as easy to admit
you were gay.
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So, no relationships
that you remember?
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Well, not in an open sense,
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but she was as thick as thieves
with one girl.
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Who was that?
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'Your fourth name.'
'Fiona Grayson?'
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'Yeah, or the Wet Blanket,
as we used to call her.
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'Literally no idea
what she was doing there.
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'I mean, she was
a perfectly capable lady,
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'but she clearly hated
the whole set-up'
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and I wasn't surprised
when I heard she'd quit.
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OK, and finally, Rob Fogerty.
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Yeah, I liked Rob. Nice guy.
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A little sorry for him when
I heard he got chucked off, but...
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well, it didn't surprise me.
He's not the sharpest knife.
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And he was a big guy. Was there any
violence in him? No, the opposite.
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I really had to push him
when we did restraint training.
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No, there was nothing violent
in Rob.
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No, he's a real gentle giant.
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Can you think of anything else
connected to any of them
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that sticks in your mind?
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Anything you haven't
already touched on?
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You know, the five of them,
they formed a little gang.
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I was never quite sure what it was.
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I mean, they all came from
very different backgrounds,
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they have very different
personalities, but...
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there was some sort of connection.
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Then, on the day
of the passing-out parade,
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I think I saw what it was.
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What? Not one of them had a guest.
Yeah, yeah. Exactly. Right?
240
00:14:45,820 --> 00:14:47,459
I mean, everyone has guests,
haven't they?
241
00:14:47,460 --> 00:14:51,460
Mums, dads, siblings, friends,
someone, but no... no, not them.
242
00:14:53,460 --> 00:14:56,460
And I think that's
what their connection was.
243
00:14:58,460 --> 00:14:59,460
For whatever reason...
244
00:15:01,460 --> 00:15:03,460
..they were out on their own.
245
00:15:05,460 --> 00:15:07,459
Are you gonna be able to find
stuff out, do you think?
246
00:15:07,460 --> 00:15:11,299
If it moves forward, keep us ahead
of the game? I'll do what I can.
247
00:15:11,300 --> 00:15:13,459
But obviously,
if they start looking at us closely,
248
00:15:13,460 --> 00:15:15,459
they'll be looking at me closely,
so...
249
00:15:15,460 --> 00:15:19,460
Bottom line, we stick to the truth,
you know. We'll be fine. We hope.
250
00:15:21,460 --> 00:15:22,660
So, I've got to go, fella.
251
00:15:24,500 --> 00:15:27,299
That business the other day,
all went all right?
252
00:15:27,300 --> 00:15:28,979
Yeah. Yeah, it was fine.
253
00:15:28,980 --> 00:15:32,819
Thanks for helping out
at short notice. Last time, yeah.
254
00:15:32,820 --> 00:15:36,460
I've moved on now.
Absolutely, me too. It's a one-off.
255
00:15:38,460 --> 00:15:40,460
You look after yourself, buddy.
Yeah, and you.
256
00:16:01,460 --> 00:16:02,460
COUGHING
257
00:16:03,820 --> 00:16:07,459
Hello, is it Clive?
Yes. Hello, Clive.
258
00:16:07,460 --> 00:16:09,499
My name is DC Fran Lingley,
259
00:16:09,500 --> 00:16:13,460
and I have some news
about your brother, Matthew.
260
00:16:15,460 --> 00:16:16,460
Sweet cicely?
261
00:16:16,461 --> 00:16:19,459
'Yes, so it's native to the north,
which means'
262
00:16:19,460 --> 00:16:21,459
you're very unlikely to find it
growing wild down here.
263
00:16:21,460 --> 00:16:25,459
OK. 'So, within the rough area
he was last seen in,
264
00:16:25,460 --> 00:16:26,460
'I'd be looking for'
265
00:16:26,461 --> 00:16:28,459
vegetable plots in gardens, or,
266
00:16:28,460 --> 00:16:31,459
and for me this is the most likely
scenario, an allotment.
267
00:16:31,460 --> 00:16:34,299
Right. Thank you.
268
00:16:34,300 --> 00:16:37,299
And he is happy to come here?
'Yes, he is.' OK.
269
00:16:37,300 --> 00:16:39,820
'We're on our way back. Be there
in about 20.' OK, see you then.
270
00:16:42,980 --> 00:16:45,300
OK, Clive. Shall we get going?
271
00:16:48,460 --> 00:16:52,459
Fran's found the brother.
Whose brother? Matthew Walsh's.
272
00:16:52,460 --> 00:16:55,459
Turns out he was with Matthew
the night he disappeared. No!
273
00:16:55,460 --> 00:16:57,700
He was having a pee in the bushes
when the car pulled up.
274
00:16:58,460 --> 00:17:00,460
He saw everything.
275
00:17:05,460 --> 00:17:09,459
Yeah. I remember the case,
because of his colour.
276
00:17:09,460 --> 00:17:11,459
Whose colour?
277
00:17:11,460 --> 00:17:13,459
The probationer
involved in the altercation.
278
00:17:13,460 --> 00:17:17,459
So, you receive details
that Walsh made a pass at a woman...
279
00:17:17,460 --> 00:17:18,460
Who was also a probie, I think.
280
00:17:18,461 --> 00:17:21,459
..and she blanked him,
and he got a bit lairy,
281
00:17:21,460 --> 00:17:23,459
and then a lad she was having
a drink with intervened,
282
00:17:23,460 --> 00:17:24,460
and that's when it all kicked off?
283
00:17:24,461 --> 00:17:28,299
After Walsh made racially abusive
remarks, I think.
284
00:17:28,300 --> 00:17:30,299
And I'm assuming
it was just a bit of handbags,
285
00:17:30,300 --> 00:17:32,459
because Walsh only got cautioned?
No, not at all.
286
00:17:32,460 --> 00:17:35,459
Walsh actually gave the lad
a bit of a kicking. So...
287
00:17:35,460 --> 00:17:39,460
So, he was let off, because
my sergeant wanted it buried.
288
00:17:41,300 --> 00:17:43,459
If Walsh had been charged,
there would have been a court case,
289
00:17:43,460 --> 00:17:46,460
and the probationer would have
got in trouble and...
290
00:17:47,460 --> 00:17:49,499
Obviously, we'd just started
recruiting ethnic minorities,
291
00:17:49,500 --> 00:17:51,459
so it wouldn't have played out well
for anyone.
292
00:17:51,460 --> 00:17:55,459
So, the fact there's no other names
in this report, apart from Walsh's,
293
00:17:55,460 --> 00:17:56,460
that was deliberate?
294
00:17:56,461 --> 00:17:58,459
I didn't write this report,
my sergeant did,
295
00:17:58,460 --> 00:18:00,500
and he's been dead ten years,
but, yeah.
296
00:18:02,460 --> 00:18:06,459
I'm guessing he was protecting
the witnesses,
297
00:18:06,460 --> 00:18:10,460
the girl, and very particularly,
the Asian lad.
298
00:18:12,460 --> 00:18:14,459
And as we were walking
across Napley Green,
299
00:18:14,460 --> 00:18:17,500
I decided to duck
into the bush for a pee.
300
00:18:18,820 --> 00:18:23,459
Just as I did,
I heard a shout, "Oi! Walshy boy!"
301
00:18:23,460 --> 00:18:28,459
I turned, and I saw this car
about 50 yards away,
302
00:18:28,460 --> 00:18:30,459
with a bloke getting out
the front passenger seat,
303
00:18:30,460 --> 00:18:32,459
and he was just running at Matty.
304
00:18:32,460 --> 00:18:35,979
And do you remember what
he looked like? Asian guy.
305
00:18:35,980 --> 00:18:37,459
And what did your brother do?
306
00:18:37,460 --> 00:18:40,459
Well, he looked pretty useful
and angry,
307
00:18:40,460 --> 00:18:44,459
and there was others in the car,
so he just ran.
308
00:18:44,460 --> 00:18:48,459
And I had just a second or two
to decide, you know,
309
00:18:48,460 --> 00:18:52,459
show him that there was two of us,
make him think twice, maybe?
310
00:18:52,460 --> 00:18:57,460
I've never had a fight in my life,
so I ducked down...
311
00:18:59,980 --> 00:19:01,460
..and I hid.
312
00:19:03,460 --> 00:19:06,459
And then, the driver got out.
313
00:19:06,460 --> 00:19:10,500
Tall fella, ran off
in the direction of the others.
314
00:19:12,460 --> 00:19:14,459
And then about 30 seconds later,
the third man.
315
00:19:14,460 --> 00:19:16,460
I could still see two others
in the back seats.
316
00:19:17,500 --> 00:19:20,459
After about five minutes,
they got out as well
317
00:19:20,460 --> 00:19:24,460
and they were all quickly off in
the direction the others had gone.
318
00:19:28,460 --> 00:19:31,979
But these two were women.
319
00:19:31,980 --> 00:19:34,459
And that was it.
320
00:19:34,460 --> 00:19:38,820
I never saw them,
or my brother, again.
321
00:19:40,460 --> 00:19:44,459
Why did you never say anything
about this at the time?
322
00:19:44,460 --> 00:19:48,459
I had a job.
In Cyprus, in a club.
323
00:19:48,460 --> 00:19:50,459
I had to fly out the next day
to start,
324
00:19:50,460 --> 00:19:52,459
but this was before mobile phones,
325
00:19:52,460 --> 00:19:56,299
so I didn't even hear
that he was missing for weeks,
326
00:19:56,300 --> 00:20:00,499
and when I did get back, early June,
pretty much everyone just reckoned
327
00:20:00,500 --> 00:20:04,459
he was lying low, because of
the warrants that was out for him.
328
00:20:04,460 --> 00:20:08,460
Everyone reckoned
he'd just turn up one day.
329
00:20:11,500 --> 00:20:14,820
Except me, because in my gut...
330
00:20:16,460 --> 00:20:19,460
..I think I knew that he died
that night.
331
00:20:21,460 --> 00:20:24,139
HE EXHALES
332
00:20:24,140 --> 00:20:27,459
And the reason
I never said anything,
333
00:20:27,460 --> 00:20:31,459
that's because I did not want
anyone to know
334
00:20:31,460 --> 00:20:35,980
what a snivelling gutless coward
I was.
335
00:20:39,460 --> 00:20:40,460
Thank you.
336
00:20:47,500 --> 00:20:51,459
OK. So, we now know for sure
that they all got out.
337
00:20:51,460 --> 00:20:53,299
And in pursuit of the victim.
Exactly.
338
00:20:53,300 --> 00:20:54,459
Which means,
as far as I'm concerned,
339
00:20:54,460 --> 00:20:57,980
they're definitely
all in the frame now.
340
00:21:12,460 --> 00:21:14,459
So here is an allotment,
341
00:21:14,460 --> 00:21:19,459
and if we draw a line up
from where the car stopped...
342
00:21:19,460 --> 00:21:23,459
up here... up here...
343
00:21:23,460 --> 00:21:27,459
and ending somewhere
in the allotment,
344
00:21:27,460 --> 00:21:30,459
it fits very well with the various
witness statement sightings
345
00:21:30,460 --> 00:21:32,659
at the chase.
And if we can identify where exactly
346
00:21:32,660 --> 00:21:34,659
on the allotment this plant
might've grown,
347
00:21:34,660 --> 00:21:37,459
we might find
his actual place of death. Mm.
348
00:21:37,460 --> 00:21:38,460
I mean, my guess is...
349
00:21:38,461 --> 00:21:41,459
Look, it would had to have been
near the road to pull the car up to.
350
00:21:41,460 --> 00:21:43,459
Maybe we can even get
some boards up.
351
00:21:43,460 --> 00:21:46,459
Might trigger some more memories.
Yeah, absolutely.
352
00:21:46,460 --> 00:21:48,459
OK, very good. Thank you. Caz?
353
00:21:48,460 --> 00:21:51,139
The only concrete thing I have
is on Fiona Grayson.
354
00:21:51,140 --> 00:21:53,459
A 1993 dangerous driving conviction.
355
00:21:53,460 --> 00:21:55,459
Trying to get the original files.
OK.
356
00:21:55,460 --> 00:21:58,459
But nothing on Elizabeth Baildon
and nothing on...
357
00:21:58,460 --> 00:22:01,459
well, apart from his internal
disciplinary record,
358
00:22:01,460 --> 00:22:03,299
on Ramjeet Sidhu.
Which we're looking into.
359
00:22:03,300 --> 00:22:05,459
Yep. And Dean Barton,
no criminal record.
360
00:22:05,460 --> 00:22:08,459
Although I am having trouble
finding a couple of basic documents.
361
00:22:08,460 --> 00:22:09,979
I can't find his birth certificate
362
00:22:09,980 --> 00:22:12,459
and I can't find him on the census
pre '91. OK.
363
00:22:12,460 --> 00:22:15,459
And something else just to feed in
as background -
364
00:22:15,460 --> 00:22:19,459
all five of them had no guests
at their passing-out parade.
365
00:22:19,460 --> 00:22:22,459
No family, no friends. No nothing.
366
00:22:22,460 --> 00:22:25,459
Yeah. It's one to mull on, maybe.
367
00:22:25,460 --> 00:22:28,459
And definitely a picture
starting to emerge of Ram Sidhu
368
00:22:28,460 --> 00:22:30,459
being a person who pushed
the envelope, even back then.
369
00:22:30,460 --> 00:22:33,459
We know he was probably first
out the car,
370
00:22:33,460 --> 00:22:37,819
so was probably the most likely
to catch up with Matthew first,
371
00:22:37,820 --> 00:22:40,140
and then, this afternoon...
372
00:22:41,460 --> 00:22:42,460
Murray slightly struck gold.
373
00:22:42,461 --> 00:22:45,459
So, three weeks before
Matthew disappeared,
374
00:22:45,460 --> 00:22:49,459
we've got pretty good evidence
to suggest that in a pub in Hendon,
375
00:22:49,460 --> 00:22:51,459
he committed an ABH on Ram Sidhu.
376
00:22:51,460 --> 00:22:53,459
No.
The fight was over a girl.
377
00:22:53,460 --> 00:22:56,459
No names in the arrest sheet,
but we know our suspects were a gang
378
00:22:56,460 --> 00:22:59,459
so there's a fair chance they were
all drinking together that night
379
00:22:59,460 --> 00:23:02,459
and the girl was even Fiona Grayson
or Liz Baildon.
380
00:23:02,460 --> 00:23:04,459
For various reasons,
Walsh only got a caution
381
00:23:04,460 --> 00:23:09,459
and Murray's trying to track down
Susie Montgomery, the landlady.
382
00:23:09,460 --> 00:23:11,459
But I think, alongside opportunity,
383
00:23:11,460 --> 00:23:15,460
fairly reasonable now to suggest
we also have a possible motive.
384
00:23:16,500 --> 00:23:21,459
Albeit one that for whatever reason
seems to have escalated
385
00:23:21,460 --> 00:23:23,500
from a reciprocal slap
to something...
386
00:23:24,980 --> 00:23:28,459
..far more violent
and involving four other people.
387
00:23:28,460 --> 00:23:31,459
So, I think we pull Sidhu in now,
confront him with this
388
00:23:31,460 --> 00:23:33,500
and see what we get.
Thank you, guys.
389
00:23:47,460 --> 00:23:49,979
You don't think we should wait
till Murray finds out
390
00:23:49,980 --> 00:23:52,459
if Montgomery's still around?
I mean, if she can ID Sidhu
391
00:23:52,460 --> 00:23:54,459
or any one of the women...
What are the chances?
392
00:23:54,460 --> 00:23:57,459
I mean, I was drinking in The Ifield
just a few months later,
393
00:23:57,460 --> 00:24:00,139
and she was about 500 years old.
394
00:24:00,140 --> 00:24:04,460
So, no.
Let's get him in now, please.
395
00:24:05,460 --> 00:24:06,460
Sure.
396
00:24:08,500 --> 00:24:11,459
DOOR OPENS AND SHUTS
397
00:24:11,460 --> 00:24:13,300
HER PHONE BUZZES
398
00:24:39,460 --> 00:24:40,460
Hiya.
Hi.
399
00:24:40,461 --> 00:24:42,459
This is a nice surprise.
Were you up anyway...?
400
00:24:42,460 --> 00:24:44,459
No, no, here on a whim.
401
00:24:44,460 --> 00:24:46,659
I thought, if you had half an hour,
maybe we could just...
402
00:24:46,660 --> 00:24:49,459
Ah, love, no,
I haven't got half an hour.
403
00:24:49,460 --> 00:24:50,499
OK, ten minutes?
404
00:24:50,500 --> 00:24:52,460
How about five?
405
00:24:54,460 --> 00:24:57,459
I don't generally take lunch.
If you'd booked me last week or...
406
00:24:57,460 --> 00:25:00,139
"Booked you"? Well, OK.
Sorry, I don't mean that like...
407
00:25:00,140 --> 00:25:02,139
No, no, no, it doesn't matter,
it's fine.
408
00:25:02,140 --> 00:25:03,459
OK, I'll be quick, then.
409
00:25:03,460 --> 00:25:05,459
So, erm, I went into all
the agencies near mine,
410
00:25:05,460 --> 00:25:07,459
got a list of all the properties
within our range -
411
00:25:07,460 --> 00:25:09,459
that way we can get an idea
of what we're after,
412
00:25:09,460 --> 00:25:13,459
so, why don't you take a look
and we can discuss later?
413
00:25:13,460 --> 00:25:15,139
Ah...
414
00:25:15,140 --> 00:25:19,459
Oh, perfect.
Thank you so much for doing that.
415
00:25:19,460 --> 00:25:21,459
Yeah, yeah, no problem.
416
00:25:21,460 --> 00:25:23,459
So have you spoken to your dad
again?
417
00:25:23,460 --> 00:25:25,819
Er, not since Eddie took him out,
no.
418
00:25:25,820 --> 00:25:28,459
I spoke to a lawyer, though.
A lawyer?
419
00:25:28,460 --> 00:25:30,460
Yeah.
Only from work, mate of a mate.
420
00:25:32,460 --> 00:25:35,460
I just wanted the top line
on our rights. Cass...
421
00:25:36,460 --> 00:25:38,459
I mean, listen,
it's your life, but...
422
00:25:38,460 --> 00:25:40,459
I don't think a lawyer
is the way to go.
423
00:25:40,460 --> 00:25:42,460
Yeah, I know, I know, I just...
424
00:25:45,460 --> 00:25:49,139
Oh, f... fuck,
I can't lose this anger, John.
425
00:25:49,140 --> 00:25:50,460
I wish I could, but...
426
00:25:51,460 --> 00:25:55,499
On top of everything else,
that woman, she's just... she...
427
00:25:55,500 --> 00:25:58,459
Yeah, I know. I get that.
I do, but...
428
00:25:58,460 --> 00:26:01,459
Please don't tell either of them
you've spoken to a lawyer,
429
00:26:01,460 --> 00:26:03,820
because that'll just...
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know.
430
00:26:06,460 --> 00:26:08,140
Ah, I've got to go.
431
00:26:09,460 --> 00:26:13,459
I'll look at these later.
And, erm... it's a nice idea.
432
00:26:13,460 --> 00:26:15,459
And next week,
hopefully I'll be freer,
433
00:26:15,460 --> 00:26:16,460
and then let's do it properly.
434
00:26:16,461 --> 00:26:18,459
Yeah, I'll book you in (!)
Ha. Piss off.
435
00:26:18,460 --> 00:26:19,820
HE CHUCKLES
436
00:26:26,460 --> 00:26:27,460
Hey.
437
00:26:33,460 --> 00:26:36,459
Been trying to get hold of you.
Claire had no idea where you were.
438
00:26:36,460 --> 00:26:37,819
Well, I was at the meeting, why?
439
00:26:37,820 --> 00:26:41,459
Jack's temperature's gone up to 101.
Oh, no.
440
00:26:41,460 --> 00:26:44,139
Do you think it's another infection?
I dunno.
441
00:26:44,140 --> 00:26:47,459
But his chest sounds dreadful,
so... so I've called the GP.
442
00:26:47,460 --> 00:26:50,460
All right, I'll...
I'll go and see him.
443
00:26:51,460 --> 00:26:54,460
You never told me the police
had interviewed you.
444
00:27:01,140 --> 00:27:03,459
Yeah, Claire made some joke
about you being banged up
445
00:27:03,460 --> 00:27:05,460
when I asked her where you were.
446
00:27:06,460 --> 00:27:09,459
Apparently, a detective came
to the office the other day?
447
00:27:09,460 --> 00:27:11,460
Yeah, I didn't wanna worry you.
448
00:27:12,460 --> 00:27:13,460
What was it about?
449
00:27:18,460 --> 00:27:19,460
Not that.
450
00:27:20,460 --> 00:27:22,460
No?
No.
451
00:27:24,300 --> 00:27:27,460
There's nothing that's ever gonna be
able to connect us to that now.
452
00:27:29,460 --> 00:27:31,460
Promise.
453
00:27:33,460 --> 00:27:37,299
So what was it about?
Oh, just some weird...
454
00:27:37,300 --> 00:27:40,299
historical case,
some 30-year-old murder.
455
00:27:40,300 --> 00:27:42,459
They thought I might've known
one of the suspects.
456
00:27:42,460 --> 00:27:44,459
Jesus. Did you?
457
00:27:44,460 --> 00:27:45,499
No, of course not.
458
00:27:45,500 --> 00:27:49,460
The interview lasted five minutes,
it's fine.
459
00:27:50,460 --> 00:27:52,460
I'm gonna go up and see the lad.
460
00:28:03,300 --> 00:28:05,459
CASS: 30th March 1990.
461
00:28:05,460 --> 00:28:08,459
The day of your passing-out parade.
You remember it? Of course.
462
00:28:08,460 --> 00:28:10,460
Good day?
Lovely.
463
00:28:11,460 --> 00:28:14,459
Proud of your achievement?
Very.
464
00:28:14,460 --> 00:28:17,459
So why no family there?
To share your day with you.
465
00:28:17,460 --> 00:28:19,459
HE CHUCKLES
466
00:28:19,460 --> 00:28:22,459
Er, because I was supposed to be
a doctor or a lawyer or...
467
00:28:22,460 --> 00:28:24,459
go into the family business,
apparently.
468
00:28:24,460 --> 00:28:26,299
And how did that make you feel,
469
00:28:26,300 --> 00:28:28,459
that no-one came to celebrate
with you?
470
00:28:28,460 --> 00:28:32,459
Sad, but I knew they'd come round,
which they did, I think.
471
00:28:32,460 --> 00:28:34,460
They're very proud of me now.
472
00:28:35,660 --> 00:28:39,459
You went to a party that night.
Yeah.
473
00:28:39,460 --> 00:28:43,459
Erm, do you remember
who you went with? No.
474
00:28:43,460 --> 00:28:47,459
Or what time you left?
30 years later? No, sorry.
475
00:28:47,460 --> 00:28:50,460
OK. Erm, do you remember
who you left with?
476
00:28:51,460 --> 00:28:54,659
A couple of them, yeah.
OK, who was that?
477
00:28:54,660 --> 00:28:58,460
Rob and Liz - Fogerty and Baildon.
OK.
478
00:29:01,460 --> 00:29:02,460
Well, completely understandably,
479
00:29:02,461 --> 00:29:06,459
you couldn't remember
who you went with, but, er...
480
00:29:06,460 --> 00:29:07,659
quickly remembered
who you left with.
481
00:29:07,660 --> 00:29:10,819
Is there a reason that those names
have stuck in your mind?
482
00:29:10,820 --> 00:29:13,459
Because of something that happened
that night.
483
00:29:13,460 --> 00:29:15,459
What was that?
484
00:29:15,460 --> 00:29:17,459
Er, so...
485
00:29:17,460 --> 00:29:21,459
Rob, who was our designated driver,
486
00:29:21,460 --> 00:29:22,460
unbeknownst to any of us,
487
00:29:22,461 --> 00:29:25,459
had actually had a few drinks
that night.
488
00:29:25,460 --> 00:29:27,459
Dumb luck on the way back into town,
he got pulled over
489
00:29:27,460 --> 00:29:29,459
by the traffic cop,
he was breathalysed,
490
00:29:29,460 --> 00:29:32,460
was over the limit and...
he was nicked.
491
00:29:33,460 --> 00:29:35,459
Ended his career
before it even started.
492
00:29:35,460 --> 00:29:36,460
So he got nicked, he got taken away,
493
00:29:36,461 --> 00:29:39,660
how did you then get home
after that? I think...
494
00:29:41,460 --> 00:29:43,460
..Lizzie was allowed to drive
Rob's car, I think...
495
00:29:45,300 --> 00:29:47,459
..she dropped us off in town first
496
00:29:47,460 --> 00:29:49,819
and then dropped Rob's car
at his house.
497
00:29:49,820 --> 00:29:53,459
And, erm...
you still see Liz Baildon?
498
00:29:53,460 --> 00:29:55,459
No. I mean, at the odd police event,
but no more than that.
499
00:29:55,460 --> 00:29:59,460
Have you discussed this with her
over the past few days? No.
500
00:30:00,460 --> 00:30:05,460
OK. Because your recollections
are... pretty much identical.
501
00:30:06,460 --> 00:30:09,459
Mm, yeah. It's what happened, so...
HE CHUCKLES
502
00:30:09,460 --> 00:30:11,459
And you don't remember
any of the people in the car?
503
00:30:11,460 --> 00:30:13,459
No.
504
00:30:13,460 --> 00:30:16,460
Dean Barton? Fiona Grayson?
505
00:30:17,460 --> 00:30:19,460
Mm... I'm sorry.
506
00:30:20,460 --> 00:30:22,459
And when the car was stopped
by the police officer,
507
00:30:22,460 --> 00:30:26,139
was that the first time that journey
that it had stopped?
508
00:30:26,140 --> 00:30:28,460
Yeah.
OK.
509
00:30:30,460 --> 00:30:33,459
So, I'm gonna show you
a photo of a man now.
510
00:30:33,460 --> 00:30:38,459
The victim in this investigation,
in fact. Name of Matthew Walsh.
511
00:30:38,460 --> 00:30:40,459
And I'd just like to know
if his face
512
00:30:40,460 --> 00:30:42,460
is in any way familiar to you.
513
00:30:43,460 --> 00:30:45,460
TENSE STING
514
00:30:46,460 --> 00:30:47,460
No.
515
00:30:49,460 --> 00:30:50,460
Well, have a good look.
516
00:30:54,460 --> 00:30:55,460
No.
517
00:30:56,460 --> 00:30:58,459
OK.
518
00:30:58,460 --> 00:31:02,459
I ask because we have a witness
who says he saw a car
519
00:31:02,460 --> 00:31:05,459
with five people in it,
one unusually tall man,
520
00:31:05,460 --> 00:31:08,499
two women and an Asian man
pull up near a patch of ground
521
00:31:08,500 --> 00:31:10,459
called Napley Green.
522
00:31:10,460 --> 00:31:12,459
Now, this is about a mile before
523
00:31:12,460 --> 00:31:15,459
where you were pulled over
by the traffic cop.
524
00:31:15,460 --> 00:31:17,459
And the witness says
that one of the men,
525
00:31:17,460 --> 00:31:21,659
that matches your description,
got out, calling, "Oi, Walshy boy!"
526
00:31:21,660 --> 00:31:25,299
and then chased after the victim.
Ss...
527
00:31:25,300 --> 00:31:26,459
So, is your witness white?
528
00:31:26,460 --> 00:31:28,459
What does that have to do
with anything?
529
00:31:28,460 --> 00:31:30,459
OK, I'm not being funny or anything,
but to them,
530
00:31:30,460 --> 00:31:32,459
we do all slightly look the same.
531
00:31:32,460 --> 00:31:34,459
So you don't recognise this event?
532
00:31:34,460 --> 00:31:38,459
You don't recognise the name,
Matthew Walsh, or indeed his face?
533
00:31:38,460 --> 00:31:40,459
In fact, none of this
rings any bells?
534
00:31:40,460 --> 00:31:41,460
No, I'm sorry.
OK.
535
00:31:42,460 --> 00:31:46,459
So, I think that you know
perfectly well who Matthew Walsh is,
536
00:31:46,460 --> 00:31:47,460
and I think you know him
537
00:31:47,461 --> 00:31:49,459
because only three weeks
before this incident,
538
00:31:49,460 --> 00:31:51,459
I think you had
a racially instigated fight with him
539
00:31:51,460 --> 00:31:54,459
in a pub in Hendon. What evidence
have you got for this allegation?
540
00:31:54,460 --> 00:31:56,979
This was in The Ifield.
Yeah. What evidence?
541
00:31:56,980 --> 00:31:58,459
Did you used to drink in there?
HE SCOFFS
542
00:31:58,460 --> 00:32:01,500
Listen...
HE LAUGHS
543
00:32:02,980 --> 00:32:06,459
..I don't know where you're
coming from with all this, but...
544
00:32:06,460 --> 00:32:08,459
I'll give you the benefit
of the doubt
545
00:32:08,460 --> 00:32:11,459
and assume it's not from
the same place as 90% of the crap
546
00:32:11,460 --> 00:32:13,460
I have to deal with comes from...
but...
547
00:32:16,460 --> 00:32:18,460
..you have nothing here.
548
00:32:19,460 --> 00:32:23,459
I mean, a witness comes out of the
woodwork 30 years after the event
549
00:32:23,460 --> 00:32:25,459
and says he saw an Asian guy
get out of a car,
550
00:32:25,460 --> 00:32:27,459
and then a random Paki in a pub?
551
00:32:27,460 --> 00:32:29,460
HE CHUCKLES Are you serious?
552
00:32:32,460 --> 00:32:35,460
Sorry, guys,
but I think we're done here.
553
00:32:46,460 --> 00:32:48,459
Don't, just...
554
00:32:48,460 --> 00:32:50,459
I just think we need
to slow down, boss.
555
00:32:50,460 --> 00:32:52,460
I just want it over.
556
00:32:53,460 --> 00:32:55,460
I shouldn't even be here.
557
00:33:14,140 --> 00:33:17,459
So I heard her, the other day.
558
00:33:17,460 --> 00:33:19,500
The police officer with you.
559
00:33:21,140 --> 00:33:22,460
I'm sorry?
Me too.
560
00:33:23,460 --> 00:33:25,460
That I have to resort to this.
561
00:33:27,460 --> 00:33:29,460
You should've been better,
Elizabeth.
562
00:33:31,460 --> 00:33:33,460
I'm sorry, Eugenia.
563
00:33:34,460 --> 00:33:37,459
I have no idea
what you're talking about.
564
00:33:37,460 --> 00:33:41,459
I'm not a greedy person.
I don't want luxuries.
565
00:33:41,460 --> 00:33:44,459
But I do want to be able
to heat our flat,
566
00:33:44,460 --> 00:33:48,459
to feed my child properly,
and once in a while,
567
00:33:48,460 --> 00:33:51,980
very rarely,
buy her a pretty dress from Primark.
568
00:33:53,460 --> 00:33:57,139
So, really, not a lot.
And a fraction of what you have.
569
00:33:57,140 --> 00:33:59,459
But still, apparently,
too much for you.
570
00:33:59,460 --> 00:34:02,500
No, I didn't say that.
ยฃ287.
571
00:34:03,500 --> 00:34:07,660
My overdue gas bill.
And ยฃ9 an hour.
572
00:34:10,460 --> 00:34:13,459
That's what I'm blackmailing you
for.
573
00:34:13,460 --> 00:34:15,459
Which sounds pathetic.
574
00:34:15,460 --> 00:34:16,460
Even to me.
575
00:34:17,460 --> 00:34:20,459
But if you don't give me this,
I will tell the police
576
00:34:20,460 --> 00:34:21,460
what your mother told me.
577
00:34:23,460 --> 00:34:25,140
Which I don't think you want.
578
00:34:27,460 --> 00:34:28,460
So...
579
00:34:29,460 --> 00:34:31,459
..have a think and then maybe...
580
00:34:31,460 --> 00:34:35,460
No, I don't have to have a think.
You can have it.
581
00:34:52,660 --> 00:34:54,460
Hey!
582
00:35:01,660 --> 00:35:03,459
I just had a call from my brother.
583
00:35:03,460 --> 00:35:06,459
He said he could not,
in all conscience,
584
00:35:06,460 --> 00:35:09,459
keep what you told him from me.
585
00:35:09,460 --> 00:35:14,459
And so, I was just wondering...
if you had a conscience.
586
00:35:14,460 --> 00:35:17,979
I was just wondering if you felt
you could maybe give your partner
587
00:35:17,980 --> 00:35:20,460
a bit of a heads up
as to what the fuck was going on.
588
00:35:35,460 --> 00:35:37,660
27 years ago...
589
00:35:42,140 --> 00:35:43,460
..I killed a child.
590
00:35:53,460 --> 00:35:57,460
They said I was speeding.
Doing 42 in a 30-mile area.
591
00:35:58,460 --> 00:36:01,460
And I lost control
going round a corner.
592
00:36:03,140 --> 00:36:05,460
I actually think she was
on the wrong side of the road.
593
00:36:07,460 --> 00:36:10,300
Either way... we collided.
594
00:36:11,460 --> 00:36:13,459
And there was a toddler in the back.
595
00:36:13,460 --> 00:36:14,980
In a car seat.
596
00:36:16,460 --> 00:36:17,580
It wasn't properly fastened.
597
00:36:19,460 --> 00:36:20,460
And he died.
598
00:36:22,460 --> 00:36:23,460
The little boy.
599
00:36:24,460 --> 00:36:29,460
And I received a conviction
for death by dangerous driving.
600
00:36:32,460 --> 00:36:36,659
How... how could you never
have told me this?
601
00:36:36,660 --> 00:36:39,460
I know, I'm so, so, so sorry.
602
00:36:42,460 --> 00:36:45,460
Was it your fault?
I don't think so.
603
00:36:47,460 --> 00:36:49,980
But I'm not sure
I'll ever really know.
604
00:36:52,500 --> 00:36:54,820
I'm just stunned, Fi, that you...
605
00:36:56,460 --> 00:37:01,459
..felt you could keep something
so significant from me for 17 years,
606
00:37:01,460 --> 00:37:03,459
how do you do that?
607
00:37:03,460 --> 00:37:06,460
How do you do that and stay sane?
I mean...
608
00:37:09,460 --> 00:37:11,460
..is there anything else
you need to tell me?
609
00:37:13,460 --> 00:37:15,460
No. That's it.
610
00:37:21,460 --> 00:37:24,980
If we lose our deposit...
I swear, Fiona...
611
00:37:32,500 --> 00:37:35,459
RAM: I mean, what do people want
the police to be?
612
00:37:35,460 --> 00:37:37,140
Mm?
613
00:37:37,980 --> 00:37:40,459
Do they want us to be like them,
614
00:37:40,460 --> 00:37:43,459
just normal human beings
who will screw up,
615
00:37:43,460 --> 00:37:46,459
who will make mistakes?
We all accept that.
616
00:37:46,460 --> 00:37:49,659
We all say sorry and move on,
and that's the deal.
617
00:37:49,660 --> 00:37:51,459
HE SIGHS
618
00:37:51,460 --> 00:37:53,979
Or do they want to believe
that we're not the same,
619
00:37:53,980 --> 00:37:57,459
that we've got some kind
of special powers that they don't?
620
00:37:57,460 --> 00:37:59,820
Cos, you know, that makes them
feel safer in their beds.
621
00:38:03,140 --> 00:38:04,460
What do they want?
622
00:38:05,460 --> 00:38:08,459
Cos it's got to be one or the other.
It can't be both.
623
00:38:08,460 --> 00:38:10,819
Mate, I can't even work
the Apple remote, so...
624
00:38:10,820 --> 00:38:12,460
HE LAUGHS
625
00:38:17,980 --> 00:38:20,460
DRINK BEING POURED
626
00:38:22,460 --> 00:38:23,460
Hey, what's the matter?
627
00:38:24,980 --> 00:38:26,460
Hey, hey, hey.
628
00:38:28,820 --> 00:38:30,460
What's wrong, babe?
629
00:38:31,460 --> 00:38:33,460
Do you ever get angry, Dean?
630
00:38:34,980 --> 00:38:37,460
At Jack.
At Jack?
631
00:38:39,460 --> 00:38:42,460
Yeah, and I don't just mean
for being naughty, I mean for...
632
00:38:44,460 --> 00:38:45,820
..for being him.
633
00:38:47,820 --> 00:38:49,980
Erm, no. No.
634
00:38:53,500 --> 00:38:55,460
I do.
635
00:38:56,460 --> 00:38:58,460
Sometimes, not often, like...
636
00:39:00,460 --> 00:39:04,460
..half a dozen times
in his entire life, maybe I, erm...
637
00:39:08,460 --> 00:39:09,460
I blame him.
638
00:39:11,460 --> 00:39:14,460
I blame HIM, not his disability.
639
00:39:19,460 --> 00:39:22,459
For what I tell myself
he's stolen from us.
640
00:39:22,460 --> 00:39:24,460
From you, from me.
641
00:39:25,460 --> 00:39:28,460
From Cass. Marn...
And I am telling you this, Dean...
642
00:39:31,460 --> 00:39:34,459
..because I want you to know
that I am not who you think I am.
643
00:39:34,460 --> 00:39:38,459
That part of me
is just an awful person.
644
00:39:38,460 --> 00:39:42,459
But an awful person who,
well, at least, I hope,
645
00:39:42,460 --> 00:39:45,979
despite what I have just told you,
you still love.
646
00:39:45,980 --> 00:39:47,459
Of course.
647
00:39:47,460 --> 00:39:52,459
So, surely, surely,
that means you can tell me stuff.
648
00:39:52,460 --> 00:39:53,460
About your past.
649
00:39:55,500 --> 00:39:58,460
And about your family -
whoever they are.
650
00:40:00,460 --> 00:40:03,460
Things that maybe you think
will make me...
651
00:40:04,660 --> 00:40:09,460
..hate you or fear you or whatever,
I dunno, because it just won't.
652
00:40:12,460 --> 00:40:15,979
But what is killing me
is the secrets.
653
00:40:15,980 --> 00:40:18,460
The years of secrets.
654
00:40:19,460 --> 00:40:25,300
Of writing a Mother's Day card
to a mother you told me had died.
655
00:40:26,460 --> 00:40:28,139
Going to Calais
when we were supposed
656
00:40:28,140 --> 00:40:29,459
to have given up all that crap
years ago.
657
00:40:29,460 --> 00:40:33,459
Lying about where you are today,
I can't take it anymore.
658
00:40:33,460 --> 00:40:35,459
I just can't take the secrets
and lies,
659
00:40:35,460 --> 00:40:38,459
not when we've got so much else
to deal with.
660
00:40:38,460 --> 00:40:41,460
So, please... just talk to me, Dean.
661
00:40:43,460 --> 00:40:46,459
You're tired, Marn. I am too.
No, Dean.
662
00:40:46,460 --> 00:40:49,459
We will do this... but not now.
663
00:40:49,460 --> 00:40:52,460
Please.
Dean. Please.
664
00:40:56,460 --> 00:40:59,460
He's just down there at the end.
OK. Cheers, mate.
665
00:41:15,460 --> 00:41:16,499
So, those are the original files
666
00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:20,299
connected to Fiona Grayson's
driving conviction in '93.
667
00:41:20,300 --> 00:41:23,459
And it turns out that a child died
during this incident
668
00:41:23,460 --> 00:41:25,659
in the car that she collided with.
Wow.
669
00:41:25,660 --> 00:41:28,459
One of the officers attending
smelt alcohol on Fiona's breath,
670
00:41:28,460 --> 00:41:31,299
and so obviously tried to give her
a test at the time,
671
00:41:31,300 --> 00:41:33,459
but she was so upset,
crying hysterically,
672
00:41:33,460 --> 00:41:35,459
that they were unable
to successfully give her one
673
00:41:35,460 --> 00:41:38,459
at the scene, so she was arrested
and taken to the local nick
674
00:41:38,460 --> 00:41:40,459
where a blood test was taken
there instead. And?
675
00:41:40,460 --> 00:41:44,459
It was lost. Lost?
Lost where, the lab or the nick?
676
00:41:44,460 --> 00:41:46,459
The nick.
Before it got sent to the lab.
677
00:41:46,460 --> 00:41:47,460
Which nick was this?
678
00:41:47,461 --> 00:41:50,459
Kingston. Are you heading
where I think you're heading?
679
00:41:50,460 --> 00:41:53,459
So I checked where both Ram Sidhu
and Liz Baildon worked at the time.
680
00:41:53,460 --> 00:41:57,459
And? Baildon worked
at Kingston nick from '91 to '94.
681
00:41:57,460 --> 00:42:02,459
Oh, man. Yep. And in the '91 census,
it details Liz and Fiona
682
00:42:02,460 --> 00:42:04,459
as living at the same address
in Thames Ditton,
683
00:42:04,460 --> 00:42:06,819
about a mile or so
from Kingston town centre.
684
00:42:06,820 --> 00:42:08,459
But at the time of this offence,
685
00:42:08,460 --> 00:42:11,459
they're living at separate addresses
but both are still in the same area.
686
00:42:11,460 --> 00:42:14,459
If that blood test
had come back positive,
687
00:42:14,460 --> 00:42:16,459
Fiona Grayson would be in jail.
Definitely.
688
00:42:16,460 --> 00:42:19,459
OK, so there are three explanations
here.
689
00:42:19,460 --> 00:42:21,460
One, this was just a coincidence.
690
00:42:22,660 --> 00:42:26,459
Two, they were an item
and she contrived
691
00:42:26,460 --> 00:42:30,459
to have the blood sample lost
for personal reasons.
692
00:42:30,460 --> 00:42:31,460
And then, three...
693
00:42:33,460 --> 00:42:34,460
..they weren't an item...
694
00:42:35,820 --> 00:42:37,459
..but Liz Baildon was blackmailed.
695
00:42:37,460 --> 00:42:40,459
Fiona Grayson using whatever
the fuck happened with Matthew Walsh
696
00:42:40,460 --> 00:42:43,460
as some kind of... leverage.
697
00:42:44,500 --> 00:42:47,459
I know what my money's on.
Mm.
698
00:42:47,460 --> 00:42:48,460
PHONE RINGS
699
00:42:51,460 --> 00:42:52,460
Leanne.
700
00:42:52,461 --> 00:42:55,459
Hey. Cass. Any chance
you could pop in for five minutes
701
00:42:55,460 --> 00:42:56,460
when you have a chance?
702
00:42:58,460 --> 00:42:59,460
What can I say?
703
00:43:01,140 --> 00:43:06,460
Just now, we found out, just now,
this actually happened.
704
00:43:10,460 --> 00:43:13,460
I feel differently.
Oh, Jesus, Ram. I know.
705
00:43:14,460 --> 00:43:16,459
I'm sorry, but...
706
00:43:16,460 --> 00:43:20,459
I've just spent the last seven days
slightly killing myself mentally
707
00:43:20,460 --> 00:43:21,460
to get to where you were.
708
00:43:23,460 --> 00:43:25,459
Trying somehow to find a way
of thinking
709
00:43:25,460 --> 00:43:28,300
that we didn't have
to do this thing.
710
00:43:30,460 --> 00:43:31,460
This brutal...
711
00:43:32,460 --> 00:43:34,460
..really horrible thing.
712
00:43:37,460 --> 00:43:39,459
You just changed your mind.
No.
713
00:43:39,460 --> 00:43:42,460
I... I just, erm...
714
00:43:44,460 --> 00:43:46,459
HE EXHALES
715
00:43:46,460 --> 00:43:50,459
What if something happened to me?
What if I got ill or...
716
00:43:50,460 --> 00:43:54,459
I don't know, anything, that meant
you had to do it all on your own?
717
00:43:54,460 --> 00:43:57,979
You know, I just started to think
how difficult that would be for you.
718
00:43:57,980 --> 00:44:00,459
I mean, I'm not definitely saying
we do go for termination,
719
00:44:00,460 --> 00:44:03,460
I'm not saying that yet,
I'm just saying... can we...?
720
00:44:04,500 --> 00:44:08,460
We can keep thinking...
for a bit longer.
721
00:44:15,980 --> 00:44:17,140
OK.
722
00:44:18,460 --> 00:44:21,459
OK, am I seeing
what I think I'm seeing?
723
00:44:21,460 --> 00:44:27,459
So, I'm seeing a sharp-ended object
approximately ten centimetres long,
724
00:44:27,460 --> 00:44:31,819
maybe three quarters of a centimetre
wide inside the skull cavity.
725
00:44:31,820 --> 00:44:34,299
And what do we think that is?
No idea.
726
00:44:34,300 --> 00:44:37,459
I need to open the skull up now.
It got in pre or postmortem?
727
00:44:37,460 --> 00:44:39,459
Again, I don't know
until I open it up.
728
00:44:39,460 --> 00:44:42,459
But best guess? From its position,
you would logically assume
729
00:44:42,460 --> 00:44:44,459
it entered through
the temporal bone fracture,
730
00:44:44,460 --> 00:44:46,459
which, when I examined it properly,
731
00:44:46,460 --> 00:44:50,459
actually contained remnants
of brick dust, so...
732
00:44:50,460 --> 00:44:51,460
two theories,
733
00:44:51,461 --> 00:44:54,459
firstly, he was being chased
and at some point,
734
00:44:54,460 --> 00:44:58,139
he tripped and fell,
hitting his head on a wall,
735
00:44:58,140 --> 00:45:00,459
which maybe had a metal spike
of some sort,
736
00:45:00,460 --> 00:45:03,459
an old bolt from some railings
or whatever,
737
00:45:03,460 --> 00:45:07,459
and this is what killed him,
breaking off inside the skull.
738
00:45:07,460 --> 00:45:09,459
Or...
739
00:45:09,460 --> 00:45:11,459
he tripped and fell,
hitting his head,
740
00:45:11,460 --> 00:45:14,459
which rendered him unconscious
and, whilst unconscious,
741
00:45:14,460 --> 00:45:18,459
he was basically stabbed through
the head wound with this object.
742
00:45:18,460 --> 00:45:21,459
Jeez.
Yeah. So...
743
00:45:21,460 --> 00:45:26,460
first theory, the chase that went
tragically, but accidentally, wrong.
744
00:45:29,460 --> 00:45:33,460
Second theory...
this was no accident.
745
00:45:35,460 --> 00:45:39,460
This was a very violent
and very deliberate...
746
00:45:40,460 --> 00:45:42,660
..murder.
Correct.
747
00:45:47,820 --> 00:45:49,980
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