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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,870 --> 00:00:05,600 It was an insane amount of fire for a normal house fire. 2 00:00:05,630 --> 00:00:08,700 The fire was used to cover up the homicide. 3 00:00:08,730 --> 00:00:10,400 From the evidence that was found, 4 00:00:10,430 --> 00:00:13,070 this was a pretty traumatic attack. 5 00:00:13,100 --> 00:00:16,370 What would be the motive for this? Would it be revenge? 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,930 The picture was starting to be painted for us. 7 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,030 [Miller] Who would just roll on your brand new husband? 8 00:00:29,070 --> 00:00:30,670 [Jason speaking] 9 00:00:34,230 --> 00:00:36,500 [Larry] I felt that there was more to what had happened. 10 00:00:36,530 --> 00:00:39,100 And it finally dawns on him that he's been used. 11 00:00:39,130 --> 00:00:40,700 [Jason speaking] 12 00:00:43,730 --> 00:00:46,170 [Miller] If he is going down, so is she. 13 00:00:56,100 --> 00:01:00,130 The city of Alpena lies right on the shore of Lake Huron. 14 00:01:00,170 --> 00:01:04,470 It's a beautiful place on the water. We're surrounded by water. 15 00:01:04,500 --> 00:01:08,100 [Stacy] The average person here still does not lock their door at night, 16 00:01:08,130 --> 00:01:09,770 does not lock their car at night. 17 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,400 It's pretty laid back, pretty open community. 18 00:01:13,430 --> 00:01:16,770 [Stacy] In a city like this, people think they know their neighbors. 19 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,300 But sometimes, there are secrets hidden 20 00:01:19,330 --> 00:01:20,870 behind closed doors. 21 00:01:20,900 --> 00:01:23,770 And it takes a crisis to expose them. 22 00:01:25,970 --> 00:01:29,830 [Larry] On October 15th, 2001, Alpena county central dispatch 23 00:01:29,870 --> 00:01:33,300 began receiving numerous calls reporting what was believed 24 00:01:33,330 --> 00:01:35,570 to be a fire on the north side 25 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:40,170 and this was evidenced by a large amount of smoke in that neighborhood. 26 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,000 Law enforcement was first in response to the 911 call. 27 00:01:43,030 --> 00:01:46,330 And they located the house fire on Alfred Street. 28 00:01:46,370 --> 00:01:49,700 They saw flames about 20-30 feet high. 29 00:01:49,730 --> 00:01:53,300 It was an insane amount of fire for a normal house fire. 30 00:01:54,130 --> 00:01:55,930 [Larry] There was a belief by neighbors 31 00:01:55,970 --> 00:01:57,900 that there potentially was someone in the home, 32 00:01:57,930 --> 00:02:00,870 that being the owner because his car was still in the garage 33 00:02:00,900 --> 00:02:02,470 at the residence. 34 00:02:02,500 --> 00:02:04,470 Several attempts were made by the officers 35 00:02:04,500 --> 00:02:07,170 who responded to call out, see if they could get a response 36 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,130 from inside the home. 37 00:02:09,170 --> 00:02:11,300 [Jennifer] They obviously wanted to enter the house 38 00:02:11,330 --> 00:02:13,430 to see if there were any survivors. 39 00:02:13,470 --> 00:02:16,000 But they had to just kind of stay put and wait for 40 00:02:16,030 --> 00:02:18,130 the fire department to get there. 41 00:02:18,170 --> 00:02:20,170 [Larry] When the firefighters arrived on scene initially, 42 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,170 they determined that they needed to fight the fire 43 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,870 from outside, simply because of the intensity of it. 44 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,670 [Jennifer]They were finally able to extinguish the flames 45 00:02:28,700 --> 00:02:31,100 and get inside the house. 46 00:02:31,130 --> 00:02:35,030 [Larry] The initial entry into the home was made by firefighters. 47 00:02:35,070 --> 00:02:38,030 The house was still very hot and a lot of smoke. 48 00:02:38,070 --> 00:02:42,000 The firefighters that went in and made that initial search 49 00:02:42,030 --> 00:02:45,100 actually found the remains of a body in the kitchen area. 50 00:02:47,330 --> 00:02:50,400 They know that this is no longer just a fire investigation. 51 00:02:50,430 --> 00:02:52,630 This is a crime scene investigation. 52 00:02:52,670 --> 00:02:54,670 [Larry] The next phone call then was made 53 00:02:54,700 --> 00:02:56,600 to the Michigan state police fire Marshal's office 54 00:02:56,630 --> 00:02:58,900 because any time there is a fatal fire, 55 00:02:58,930 --> 00:03:01,770 there is a need for the state fire Marshal to come in 56 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,330 and conduct their own investigation. 57 00:03:05,370 --> 00:03:07,470 When I arrived, the fire department and the police department 58 00:03:07,500 --> 00:03:10,030 were both on the scene. The fire was suppressed. 59 00:03:10,070 --> 00:03:11,470 and we could enter the scene. 60 00:03:13,770 --> 00:03:15,370 Now, walking through the living room, 61 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,770 I could smell what I thought could've been a faint odor of gasoline. 62 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,130 It's a very distinctive odor. 63 00:03:20,170 --> 00:03:21,700 It was a red flag. 64 00:03:21,730 --> 00:03:24,730 In the living room, there was some heat staining to the furniture. 65 00:03:24,770 --> 00:03:27,170 And there was a little bit of soot damage. 66 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,000 But there was no real extensive fire damage. 67 00:03:30,030 --> 00:03:33,230 It's typical in a fire where an accelerant like gasoline is used. 68 00:03:33,270 --> 00:03:37,230 Gasoline would ignite initially, but immediately goes out 69 00:03:37,270 --> 00:03:39,400 because it consumes all the oxygen 70 00:03:39,430 --> 00:03:40,730 in that enclosed area 71 00:03:40,770 --> 00:03:42,770 and a fire needs oxygen to burn. 72 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,030 And in that living room area, you can see there was some fire damage, 73 00:03:46,070 --> 00:03:47,800 but it was like a flash fire. 74 00:03:47,830 --> 00:03:49,730 At that time, I went in the kitchen. 75 00:03:49,770 --> 00:03:52,070 The victim was laying almost directly in front of the door. 76 00:03:52,100 --> 00:03:54,200 And there was heavy, heavy fire damage 77 00:03:54,230 --> 00:03:56,100 right where the victim was. 78 00:03:56,930 --> 00:03:58,830 [Larry]I've seen victims of fires. 79 00:03:58,870 --> 00:04:02,930 In this particular situation, what was different about it to me, 80 00:04:02,970 --> 00:04:05,500 the damage to the body. I mean, literally, there was 81 00:04:05,530 --> 00:04:08,830 very little left of the torso area of the body. 82 00:04:08,870 --> 00:04:12,770 Like, the fire burned very hot, right on the center of this body. 83 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,570 [Mark] There was no fire debris at all on the victim. 84 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,900 The left arm and left leg had become detached from the body 85 00:04:18,930 --> 00:04:21,030 from extreme heat which wouldn't be unusual 86 00:04:21,070 --> 00:04:23,800 on a fire victim if the whole house collapsed around them 87 00:04:23,830 --> 00:04:25,970 and it layed under smoldering wood for several hours. 88 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,530 I've seen people reduced to just bones at the fire scene. 89 00:04:29,570 --> 00:04:31,970 But that's when the house is totally consumed in fire. 90 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,370 This house was still relatively intact. 91 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,200 To have the victim laying on the floor 92 00:04:36,230 --> 00:04:38,270 with nothing falling down on top of him, 93 00:04:38,300 --> 00:04:40,700 that's very unusual. 94 00:04:40,730 --> 00:04:43,930 [Jennifer]Police are pretty sure the body is of the homeowner, 95 00:04:43,970 --> 00:04:46,100 sixty-nine year old James Orban, 96 00:04:46,130 --> 00:04:49,170 but of course, because the body was so badly burned, 97 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:53,470 they did need to send off DNA to get confirmation. 98 00:04:53,500 --> 00:04:56,870 Even the fingerprints were so badly damaged that they were of no use 99 00:04:56,900 --> 00:04:59,670 for identification purposes. 100 00:04:59,700 --> 00:05:02,630 [Jennifer] Investigators noticed there was a lot of broken glass 101 00:05:02,670 --> 00:05:07,130 around the body and this matched the broken glass pane 102 00:05:07,170 --> 00:05:09,570 of the door that was broken in the back of the house. 103 00:05:10,470 --> 00:05:12,570 [Larry] As the body was being moved, 104 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,200 glass fragments were found on the floor under the body. 105 00:05:16,230 --> 00:05:18,830 [Mark] And the significance of the glass was there was no soot 106 00:05:18,870 --> 00:05:20,500 on either side of the glass. 107 00:05:20,530 --> 00:05:22,770 Then our case said, glass was broken out 108 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,570 and he had fallen on that glass prior to the fire. 109 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,370 The crime lab technicians, as soon as they walked in the kitchen, 110 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,530 they really noticed, I believe it was a dishwasher 111 00:05:32,570 --> 00:05:35,900 and the electric stove, blood stain spatters that 112 00:05:35,930 --> 00:05:38,300 other investigators had seen and not noticed. 113 00:05:38,330 --> 00:05:42,070 Crime scene tech pointed out, he said it looks like a bloody handprint 114 00:05:42,100 --> 00:05:43,630 coming down one appliance. 115 00:05:43,670 --> 00:05:47,130 It looks like a bloody head was trussed up against another appliance. 116 00:05:48,470 --> 00:05:50,230 From the evidence that was found, 117 00:05:50,270 --> 00:05:52,500 this was a pretty traumatic attack. 118 00:05:52,530 --> 00:05:54,600 [Jennifer]The police were able to 119 00:05:54,630 --> 00:05:57,670 tell that he was actually stabbed multiple times. 120 00:05:57,700 --> 00:06:01,970 And one of the most noticeable and very violent stab wounds was 121 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,500 in the victim's forehead. 122 00:06:04,530 --> 00:06:06,370 [Larry] We believe it was multiple stab wounds 123 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,570 with blood spatters spreading throughout the kitchen area. 124 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,470 [Mark] At that point, all the investigators on the scene 125 00:06:12,500 --> 00:06:14,200 felt there was gonna be a homicide. 126 00:06:14,230 --> 00:06:16,070 The fire was used to cover it up. 127 00:06:19,530 --> 00:06:22,330 [Jennifer] The police got back the results of the DNA test. 128 00:06:22,370 --> 00:06:24,470 Then they were able to confirm that the body did 129 00:06:24,500 --> 00:06:27,730 belong to the homeowner, James Orban. 130 00:06:27,770 --> 00:06:31,370 [Bill]Who breaks into a house and kills an old man? 131 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,030 Why would somebody do that? 132 00:06:33,070 --> 00:06:36,030 And why would they do it in such a violent fashion? 133 00:06:39,030 --> 00:06:41,470 [Miller] When the fire and murder happened, 134 00:06:41,500 --> 00:06:44,770 I was a full time staff reporter for The Alpena News. 135 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,630 I had only been on the job a few months. 136 00:06:47,670 --> 00:06:51,400 Right away we learned whose home it was and I knew the victim. 137 00:06:51,430 --> 00:06:56,270 He had sold my grandparents the lot that our cottage was built on. 138 00:06:56,300 --> 00:06:58,330 So I've known him my whole life. 139 00:07:00,730 --> 00:07:03,170 James Orban was an odd duck. 140 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:07,730 From the minute he was born, he was the third child of nine. 141 00:07:07,770 --> 00:07:10,100 James did not have an easy childhood. 142 00:07:10,130 --> 00:07:14,200 His father was a terrible alcoholic, couldn't keep jobs. 143 00:07:14,230 --> 00:07:16,970 His mother worked at a factory here in town 144 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,830 and she was the breadwinner. 145 00:07:19,830 --> 00:07:21,830 When James was born, he was born with 146 00:07:21,870 --> 00:07:23,300 significant hearing loss. 147 00:07:23,330 --> 00:07:25,630 He did have a speech impediment 148 00:07:25,670 --> 00:07:27,970 that was caused by his lack of hearing. 149 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,630 [Miller] He was teased terribly because of it, 150 00:07:31,670 --> 00:07:33,570 by kids his own age and older kids, 151 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,930 they were horrible to him because he talked so strange. 152 00:07:37,970 --> 00:07:40,900 [Jennifer]He'd fit in better with people that were younger than him. 153 00:07:40,930 --> 00:07:45,430 So he tended to hang out with younger kids. 154 00:07:45,470 --> 00:07:47,500 [Miller] They didn't hold the power over him 155 00:07:47,530 --> 00:07:50,330 like his friends his age and older did. 156 00:07:50,370 --> 00:07:53,530 Little kids, they just were his playmates. 157 00:07:53,570 --> 00:07:56,170 [Stacy] James Orban was able to find comfort 158 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:01,200 away from his tormenters, but abuse like this will leave scars. 159 00:08:03,300 --> 00:08:06,730 [Larry] James Orban had been an employee at a local factory. 160 00:08:06,770 --> 00:08:09,370 He was a man whose neighbors indicated 161 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,930 a kind of a loner during the time they knew him. 162 00:08:12,970 --> 00:08:16,370 The day following the fire, I was responsible for 163 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,170 searching James Orban's house. 164 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,670 The focus of my search was the bedroom, 165 00:08:21,700 --> 00:08:23,470 right off of the kitchen. 166 00:08:23,500 --> 00:08:25,770 It became apparent very early on 167 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,270 that this bedroom off the kitchen 168 00:08:27,300 --> 00:08:29,400 had been James Orban's bedroom, 169 00:08:29,430 --> 00:08:32,170 and in that room was a small dresser. 170 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,830 And a lot of the contents of those drawers had been 171 00:08:34,870 --> 00:08:36,970 thrown on the floor, on the bed, 172 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,770 just through and about almost like someone 173 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,370 in a hurried fashion was looking through stuff in the dresser drawers. 174 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,500 And one thing I noticed, as I was going through this property 175 00:08:45,530 --> 00:08:48,230 was the fact that there were polaroid pictures, 176 00:08:48,270 --> 00:08:50,500 appeared to have been amateur photographs 177 00:08:50,530 --> 00:08:55,030 someone had taken of young teenage appearing girls. 178 00:08:55,070 --> 00:08:57,230 [Bill] They were not necessarily inappropriate, 179 00:08:57,270 --> 00:08:59,800 but why would somebody have these other than 180 00:08:59,830 --> 00:09:04,130 having some proclivity for liking young children? 181 00:09:04,170 --> 00:09:08,630 [Jennifer] It seemed as if they were purposefully placed there 182 00:09:08,670 --> 00:09:10,770 wanting the police to discover it. 183 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,430 But once they see these polaroids, it makes them think 184 00:09:13,470 --> 00:09:16,070 that maybe this is something a lot more personal. 185 00:09:17,130 --> 00:09:19,170 Anyone in law enforcement will tell you there's 186 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,070 no such thing as coincidences. 187 00:09:29,030 --> 00:09:31,430 [Jennifer] James Orban hung out with younger kids 188 00:09:31,470 --> 00:09:35,170 throughout his whole life and he continued to as an adult. 189 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:39,030 And this is where we discovered that he's actually 190 00:09:39,070 --> 00:09:40,670 done some pretty terrible things. 191 00:09:41,630 --> 00:09:43,600 [Miller] I remember when I was a kid, 192 00:09:43,630 --> 00:09:45,800 I had heard he had got into trouble 193 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,740 with some young girls. 194 00:09:47,770 --> 00:09:50,370 He never did anything to me, but my gut always told me 195 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,700 he was different, to stay away and not to give him that opportunity. 196 00:09:54,870 --> 00:09:56,630 [Larry] He had the police investigation 197 00:09:56,670 --> 00:10:00,070 conducted on him at some point earlier in his life, 198 00:10:00,100 --> 00:10:02,470 wherein a young girl, a teenager 199 00:10:02,500 --> 00:10:05,740 had accused him of some sort of sexual behavior. 200 00:10:05,770 --> 00:10:09,170 He had a sexual misbehavior charge and conviction 201 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,740 and he had spent time incarcerated. 202 00:10:12,530 --> 00:10:15,370 With a murder victim like James Orban, 203 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,630 police have to think, could this be revenge? 204 00:10:24,740 --> 00:10:26,430 [Bill]Two weeks before the fire, 205 00:10:26,470 --> 00:10:29,230 there had been a complaint called in that somebody had 206 00:10:29,270 --> 00:10:32,230 vandalized his garage area, 207 00:10:32,270 --> 00:10:35,530 spray painted "child molester" on the garage. 208 00:10:35,570 --> 00:10:37,100 [Miller] The fact that that had happened 209 00:10:37,130 --> 00:10:40,100 just two weeks before and then, now they find 210 00:10:40,130 --> 00:10:44,800 some questionable pictures in his bedroom on display 211 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:49,000 in a house fire just seems too coincidental. 212 00:10:49,030 --> 00:10:52,800 [Bill] Maybe this is somebody that came back and did this to Mr. Orban 213 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,740 in retaliation for maybe something that happened to them. 214 00:10:57,330 --> 00:11:00,800 [Miller] Law enforcement are looking at what would be the motive for this. 215 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,130 Would it be revenge? Is it someone that 216 00:11:03,170 --> 00:11:05,470 he may have molested earlier who is now an adult? 217 00:11:05,500 --> 00:11:06,740 Is it robbery? 218 00:11:06,770 --> 00:11:10,970 They're trying to figure out what would be behind this. 219 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,400 [Larry] The picture was starting to be painted for us. 220 00:11:13,430 --> 00:11:15,840 The evidence from the scene, what I collected 221 00:11:15,870 --> 00:11:17,270 in the execution of the search warrant. 222 00:11:17,300 --> 00:11:18,800 That was just kind of the start. 223 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,570 Now the real work has to start 224 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,670 and that involves interviews. 225 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,840 The police interviewed Robert Taylor, 226 00:11:25,870 --> 00:11:28,840 a neighbor who called 911. 227 00:11:28,870 --> 00:11:31,770 [Larry]He was out walking his dog and saw smoke filling the air 228 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,070 under the street lights. 229 00:11:33,100 --> 00:11:34,970 He told us that he then approached 230 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,670 while he was at the scene. 231 00:11:36,700 --> 00:11:38,600 Mr. Taylor described the gentleman 232 00:11:38,630 --> 00:11:40,470 as Caucasian, male. 233 00:11:40,500 --> 00:11:42,500 Rather tall, had a beard 234 00:11:42,530 --> 00:11:44,630 and was wearing a baseball cap. 235 00:11:44,670 --> 00:11:46,770 [Jennifer] He told them that while he was out there 236 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,170 watching the house burn down essentially, 237 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,470 this guy came up to him and asked him, 238 00:11:51,500 --> 00:11:53,330 "Have they found the body yet?" 239 00:11:54,570 --> 00:11:57,740 This person had to have some, either direct knowledge 240 00:11:57,770 --> 00:12:00,930 or direct involvement in this particular event. 241 00:12:00,970 --> 00:12:03,870 [Miller] He was sweating and he smelled like campfire, 242 00:12:03,900 --> 00:12:05,630 which is odd, again, you know, 243 00:12:05,670 --> 00:12:07,930 two o'clock in the morning in October. 244 00:12:07,970 --> 00:12:09,400 You're sweating? [chuckles] 245 00:12:09,430 --> 00:12:11,670 Where have you been? What have you been up to? [laughs] 246 00:12:12,630 --> 00:12:14,400 [Larry] This is another piece of the puzzle. 247 00:12:14,430 --> 00:12:17,030 We need to try and figure out who this person is. 248 00:12:18,930 --> 00:12:21,930 When the police interviewed the neighbors, 249 00:12:21,970 --> 00:12:24,500 nobody really knew James Orban that well, 250 00:12:24,530 --> 00:12:28,770 but they did know somebody that they thought did know him well. 251 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:33,400 And that was 21 year old Melissa "Missy" Bredow. 252 00:12:33,430 --> 00:12:37,000 [Larry]Everyone in the neighborhood knew James Orban had 253 00:12:37,030 --> 00:12:38,630 a relationship of some sort. 254 00:12:38,670 --> 00:12:40,570 Didn't necessarily know what that relationship was, 255 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,870 but had a relationship with Melissa Bredow 256 00:12:42,900 --> 00:12:47,470 and she lived just a few blocks from James' house. 257 00:12:47,500 --> 00:12:49,970 [Miller] She was very boisterous, very bossy, 258 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,740 needed to be the center of attention. 259 00:12:51,770 --> 00:12:53,970 According to James' neighbors, 260 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,740 Missy was there almost every day. 261 00:12:56,770 --> 00:13:00,670 [Larry]It tweaked my thoughts that here's James Orban that's 69, 262 00:13:00,700 --> 00:13:02,430 Missy Bredow at 21. 263 00:13:02,470 --> 00:13:04,070 Number one, what did they have in common? 264 00:13:04,100 --> 00:13:06,870 But more importantly, if she's coming by his house, 265 00:13:06,900 --> 00:13:08,170 what's the reason for that? 266 00:13:09,970 --> 00:13:11,840 [Bill] Missy had a difficult childhood. 267 00:13:11,870 --> 00:13:14,970 Her family was not well to do financially. 268 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,370 They struggled. 269 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:20,130 [Jennifer]Her dad worked on boats and was very rarely around 270 00:13:20,170 --> 00:13:23,130 and she didn't really get along well with her mother. 271 00:13:23,170 --> 00:13:27,000 [Larry] Missy, right from the time that she was probably, barely a teenager, 272 00:13:27,030 --> 00:13:29,370 had been in contact with law enforcement. 273 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,230 Underage drinking, getting in trouble. 274 00:13:31,270 --> 00:13:34,270 Missy was just always operating on the edge. 275 00:13:34,300 --> 00:13:37,570 Missy thought that she had total control 276 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,030 over every situation. 277 00:13:39,070 --> 00:13:41,930 She felt that she was the person in charge 278 00:13:41,970 --> 00:13:43,900 and nobody was going to tell her any different. 279 00:13:45,100 --> 00:13:47,570 [Stacy]Here's another unhappy child. 280 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,500 But Missy seems to be a kid who responds 281 00:13:50,530 --> 00:13:52,840 by trying to control what she can, 282 00:13:52,870 --> 00:13:54,270 or who she can. 283 00:13:55,870 --> 00:13:58,530 [Jennifer] When Missy was 14 years old, she started dating 284 00:13:58,570 --> 00:14:00,970 a fellow classmate Jason Belanger. 285 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,600 He was a good student and came from 286 00:14:04,630 --> 00:14:07,700 a good family. Missy's family had hoped 287 00:14:07,740 --> 00:14:11,070 Jason would be a positive influence on her. 288 00:14:11,100 --> 00:14:13,270 [Larry] But lo and behold, just the opposite happened. 289 00:14:13,300 --> 00:14:17,230 Missy's influence over Jason ended up being 290 00:14:17,270 --> 00:14:19,430 the superpower, if you will and ultimately, 291 00:14:19,470 --> 00:14:22,400 Jason fell under Missy's spell. 292 00:14:22,430 --> 00:14:25,430 He wasn't an angel. He had had some trouble. 293 00:14:25,470 --> 00:14:28,970 But Missy just seemed to be gasoline on that fire, so to speak. 294 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,230 And the two became inseparable. 295 00:14:33,230 --> 00:14:35,770 Jason's brain started to go down. 296 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,130 [Larry]He was drinking heavily, using drugs, 297 00:14:38,170 --> 00:14:39,930 spending time with Missy. 298 00:14:39,970 --> 00:14:43,570 I think her relationship with Jason early on was 299 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:47,500 primarily characterized as being over the top. 300 00:14:47,530 --> 00:14:49,900 I think she was very possessive, 301 00:14:49,930 --> 00:14:51,500 very jealous person. 302 00:14:51,530 --> 00:14:55,740 I know Jason's family did their best to keep him away from her. 303 00:14:57,330 --> 00:15:00,170 Things were going downhill for Jason. So his family 304 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,470 wanted to get him out of Alpena. 305 00:15:02,500 --> 00:15:05,770 [Larry]I can feel for the Belangers. They had good jobs, 306 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,230 they had a beautiful home. 307 00:15:07,270 --> 00:15:09,400 And they literally left it all behind in hopes that they could 308 00:15:09,430 --> 00:15:12,370 turn Jason around and change his trajectory in life 309 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,840 because I think they were fearful for what it was gonna become for him. 310 00:15:15,870 --> 00:15:20,000 And their last hope was literally to physically separate him from Missy. 311 00:15:20,030 --> 00:15:23,330 [Stacy] You can see why Jason's parents wanted to make this move. 312 00:15:23,370 --> 00:15:27,070 But it would certainly have left a void in Missy's life. 313 00:15:27,100 --> 00:15:29,870 [Larry]Once Jason was out of Alpena, had left the picture 314 00:15:29,900 --> 00:15:31,170 so to speak with Missy, 315 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,800 she started looking for others to hang around with. 316 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,900 [Jennifer] It was right around the time that she started 317 00:15:36,930 --> 00:15:39,170 hanging out with James Orban. 318 00:15:39,970 --> 00:15:41,800 [Miller] He would give younger people 319 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,600 cigarettes and alcohol. 320 00:15:43,630 --> 00:15:46,230 The stuff that they wanted and he found out 321 00:15:46,270 --> 00:15:48,870 pretty early on that if you gave them things, 322 00:15:48,900 --> 00:15:50,330 they would befriend him. 323 00:15:50,370 --> 00:15:56,170 So he had to buy affection and buy friendship, which is very sad. 324 00:15:56,200 --> 00:16:01,500 She'd go and clean his house and get money for whatever cleaning she did. 325 00:16:01,530 --> 00:16:03,530 [Bill] I think there was more to this story 326 00:16:03,570 --> 00:16:06,300 than just her being helpful to him in terms of 327 00:16:06,330 --> 00:16:08,270 running errands and cleaning his house. 328 00:16:08,300 --> 00:16:10,130 [Larry] Our investigation didn't reveal 329 00:16:10,170 --> 00:16:12,740 any specific behaviors that they were involved in. 330 00:16:12,770 --> 00:16:16,470 But obviously, as an investigator, you gotta start wondering, 331 00:16:16,500 --> 00:16:18,170 what was the draw between the two of them? 332 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,840 Was it just money? Was it sexual or what? 333 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,840 [Miller] Missy and James spent lots of time together. 334 00:16:31,870 --> 00:16:34,570 And he convinced himself that he was in love with her 335 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,540 and maybe he was in love with her. 336 00:16:36,570 --> 00:16:38,440 She did that very much on purpose. 337 00:16:38,470 --> 00:16:40,770 That kind of manipulation, she's very good at 338 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,800 manipulating the men in her life. 339 00:16:44,100 --> 00:16:47,040 Missy used a lot of the money that James gave her 340 00:16:47,070 --> 00:16:49,400 'cause she, she had a bingo habit. 341 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:50,400 She's 20. 342 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,870 Who goes to bingo when you're that young? 343 00:16:52,900 --> 00:16:55,240 What I take from that is that she wanted to win big. 344 00:16:55,270 --> 00:16:57,640 She'd rather not work, she'd rather just win. 345 00:16:58,870 --> 00:17:03,840 That was very common for her to be allowed to drive James' car. 346 00:17:03,870 --> 00:17:06,670 [Miller] He had an old pickup truck and she didn't like that. 347 00:17:06,700 --> 00:17:09,100 So they went car shopping one day 348 00:17:09,140 --> 00:17:11,740 and he let her pick out a used car. 349 00:17:11,770 --> 00:17:13,470 I think he said that her name was on the car, 350 00:17:13,500 --> 00:17:16,340 that it was her car and she could use it any time she wanted to, 351 00:17:16,370 --> 00:17:19,470 but at his house. She'd have to come to his house to use the car. 352 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,440 That to me is sugar daddy 101. 353 00:17:23,470 --> 00:17:25,400 She used everything he had. 354 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,440 Why would his new car be any different? 355 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,370 The police know that they have to find and speak to 356 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,470 Missy Bredow because it just isn't adding up 357 00:17:40,500 --> 00:17:42,240 on why they would be such good friends. 358 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,300 [Larry] When she came to the police station, 359 00:17:45,340 --> 00:17:48,400 she was very upbeat. She was bouncy, 360 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:49,840 bubbly, if you will. 361 00:17:49,870 --> 00:17:52,270 Which to us seemed very out of character 362 00:17:52,300 --> 00:17:55,940 due to the fact that someone she should've been very close to was dead. 363 00:17:55,970 --> 00:17:57,900 If I had lost someone I cared a lot about, 364 00:17:57,940 --> 00:17:59,600 I don't think I would've acted that way. 365 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:05,170 She seemed to have the best interests of the investigation 366 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,440 when she spoke to the police. 367 00:18:07,470 --> 00:18:09,640 [Miller] Missy's alibi, it was rock solid because 368 00:18:09,670 --> 00:18:12,170 she always goes to bingo on that night. 369 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:16,300 We actually had witnesses tell us that Missy had come to bingo 370 00:18:16,340 --> 00:18:18,400 when they could all... buy her out. 371 00:18:19,870 --> 00:18:21,840 We talked for some time with Missy, 372 00:18:21,870 --> 00:18:24,070 just trying to find out what she would provide us 373 00:18:24,100 --> 00:18:27,570 or offer us and at some point we said, "Well, 374 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:31,000 what's your current relationship with James?" 375 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,100 [Jennifer] She told the police that she hadn't seen him since October third, 376 00:18:34,140 --> 00:18:36,240 which is two weeks before the murder. 377 00:18:36,270 --> 00:18:38,870 [Larry] The argument that kind of caused them 378 00:18:38,900 --> 00:18:40,740 to go their separate ways for a while was 379 00:18:40,770 --> 00:18:42,170 that she had this understanding 380 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:43,600 that the car was always available 381 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,870 and suddenly, James had kind of cut her off. 382 00:18:45,900 --> 00:18:49,400 So she kind of led us to believe that there was a financial shutdown. 383 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,400 Typically with interviews, we ask the person, 384 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,000 "Would you be willing to consent to a polygraph 385 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,240 simply to verify what you've told us?" 386 00:18:58,270 --> 00:19:00,970 And a lot of times people say, "Sure, I'll take the polygraph." 387 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,200 If they say no, they have good reason. 388 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,840 Now Missy said, "I don't have time right now." 389 00:19:05,870 --> 00:19:11,170 [Bill] It's always unusual when somebody is as cooperative as she was, 390 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:18,040 but then simultaneously refused to engage in a polygraph examination. 391 00:19:18,070 --> 00:19:23,470 She says, "No, I can't. I'm planning my wedding reception. 392 00:19:23,500 --> 00:19:25,740 I'm too busy. I can't." 393 00:19:25,770 --> 00:19:27,840 Because she had just gotten married. 394 00:19:27,870 --> 00:19:31,070 I'd have to say that was a first time in my career I heard someone say 395 00:19:31,100 --> 00:19:32,170 that they couldn't take a polygraph 396 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,670 because they were planning a wedding party. 397 00:19:34,700 --> 00:19:39,540 Missy told the police that her wedding was actually on October 16th. 398 00:19:39,570 --> 00:19:42,040 [Larry] Which seemed very unusual to us simply because 399 00:19:42,070 --> 00:19:45,500 it was literally the day after the fire. 400 00:19:45,540 --> 00:19:47,570 [Jennifer]This is pretty strange that she decided 401 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,140 to have a wedding the day after one of the closest people 402 00:19:51,170 --> 00:19:54,970 in her life, supposedly, was found dead. 403 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,540 [Larry] And of course, our next question is, 404 00:19:57,570 --> 00:20:00,370 obviously, who's she married to? 405 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,670 She tells them that she got married to her high school sweetheart 406 00:20:03,700 --> 00:20:05,900 Jason Belanger. 407 00:20:05,940 --> 00:20:07,940 [Larry] Jason had been gone away for a while 408 00:20:07,970 --> 00:20:09,970 and a lot of people didn't even know he was back. 409 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,140 But somehow, upon his return, 410 00:20:12,170 --> 00:20:14,840 he and Missy had immediately reconnected, 411 00:20:14,870 --> 00:20:17,370 were living together and now were married. 412 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,640 That seemed highly unusual. 413 00:20:20,670 --> 00:20:24,000 [Jennifer] He had actually moved back into town just two weeks prior 414 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,900 to their wedding when they reconnected at a party 415 00:20:26,940 --> 00:20:29,200 and their romance picked back up 416 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:30,770 right where it left off. 417 00:20:32,540 --> 00:20:34,100 [Larry] During our follow up interviews, 418 00:20:34,140 --> 00:20:36,400 I had actually spoken with a local storeowner 419 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:40,670 who had a business about a block away from Jason's home. 420 00:20:40,700 --> 00:20:43,840 And he hadn't shared with me that as a young person, 421 00:20:43,870 --> 00:20:46,040 Jason had actually started a fire 422 00:20:46,070 --> 00:20:48,900 that nearly burned down a building. 423 00:20:48,940 --> 00:20:53,640 It is possible that a child with a history of setting fires 424 00:20:53,670 --> 00:20:57,640 could turn into an adult who uses this as a criminal method. 425 00:20:59,900 --> 00:21:05,700 The detectives decide they wanna talk to Missy's new husband, Jason. 426 00:21:05,740 --> 00:21:08,640 [Larry] Jason's version of he and Missy getting reacquainted 427 00:21:08,670 --> 00:21:10,900 pretty much matched what Missy had told us. 428 00:21:10,940 --> 00:21:13,440 [Miller] They ask him if he knows James Orban 429 00:21:13,470 --> 00:21:16,470 and he says yes. 430 00:21:16,500 --> 00:21:19,200 And when asked, "What do you think of him?" 431 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,100 He said, "I don't like him." 432 00:21:21,140 --> 00:21:24,640 He said to detectives that he believed some of the money 433 00:21:24,670 --> 00:21:27,040 that Melissa was getting from James 434 00:21:27,070 --> 00:21:29,270 was for sexual favors. 435 00:21:29,300 --> 00:21:32,440 Jason knew what was going on and he didn't like it. 436 00:21:32,470 --> 00:21:33,800 And who could blame him? 437 00:21:35,170 --> 00:21:38,000 [Jennifer] Jason also admitted that when he was younger, 438 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:42,000 before he moved away, that he had vandalized James' garage door 439 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,070 by throwing pink paint on the door. 440 00:21:45,100 --> 00:21:50,900 When the police asked Jason why he said "because he's a child molester," 441 00:21:50,940 --> 00:21:53,200 and that's very interesting phrasing 442 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,840 because just two weeks prior, somebody had painted the words 443 00:21:55,870 --> 00:21:58,270 "child molester" on his garage door. 444 00:21:59,500 --> 00:22:01,670 [Larry] As we're talking with Jason, 445 00:22:01,700 --> 00:22:04,100 we're kind of checking out his appearance. 446 00:22:04,140 --> 00:22:06,440 Jason pretty much met the description 447 00:22:06,470 --> 00:22:09,800 provided by Mr. Taylor at the scene of the fire. 448 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,670 We also noticed that Jason had some cuts on his hands 449 00:22:12,700 --> 00:22:14,900 and when we asked him, his explanation was that 450 00:22:14,940 --> 00:22:17,470 he had been working on, I believe, his motorcycle 451 00:22:17,500 --> 00:22:20,840 and through doing some wrenching work on it, he had cut his hands. 452 00:22:21,700 --> 00:22:23,840 [Miller] Now I'm not a mechanic, 453 00:22:23,870 --> 00:22:28,170 but you don't generally get cuts from slipped wrenches. 454 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,940 I think maybe broken glass, perhaps defensive wounds 455 00:22:31,970 --> 00:22:33,070 from the victim. 456 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:35,970 We basically just explained to him 457 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,170 that we're gonna need a minute. 458 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:38,800 We left him in the interview room 459 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,440 to let him sweat a little bit. 460 00:22:40,470 --> 00:22:43,000 We re-gather ourselves and as we entered the room 461 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,940 and sat down with Jason, he basically told us, 462 00:22:45,970 --> 00:22:47,570 "Hey, I'd like to confess." 463 00:22:49,170 --> 00:22:51,900 Imagine our surprise when we heard that. 464 00:22:53,470 --> 00:22:55,600 [Jennifer] Jason told police that his original plan 465 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,640 to go over to James Orban's house was to rob him. 466 00:22:58,670 --> 00:23:02,500 He said that he needed the money to support his drug addiction 467 00:23:02,540 --> 00:23:03,640 and he was low on drugs. 468 00:23:04,970 --> 00:23:07,240 [Larry] Jason said he went to James' home. 469 00:23:07,270 --> 00:23:09,200 It was dark, late in the evening 470 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,500 and as he climbed the steps to the back door of the house 471 00:23:12,540 --> 00:23:16,200 to enter, James literally opened the door 472 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,640 to put his cat out. 473 00:23:17,670 --> 00:23:20,300 And they had a confrontation literally, right in the doorway. 474 00:23:20,340 --> 00:23:23,740 And the confrontation almost immediately became physical. 475 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,500 [Jennifer] He told police that when he saw James 476 00:23:27,540 --> 00:23:32,140 face to face, he was just completely filled with rage 477 00:23:32,170 --> 00:23:34,740 and the reason that he was filled with rage was because 478 00:23:34,770 --> 00:23:36,400 he said that when he was a child, 479 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,600 he was actually molested by him. 480 00:23:40,340 --> 00:23:43,140 [Larry] We never had any indication that 481 00:23:43,170 --> 00:23:46,600 Jason had been molested by James. 482 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,340 And in addition to that, we had no indication 483 00:23:49,370 --> 00:23:52,970 that James had a proclivity for young boys. 484 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,000 Everyone that he had been around 485 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,540 had been young girls. 486 00:23:56,570 --> 00:24:00,970 So for Jason to make this a statement for his reason for attacking James 487 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,070 just really confused us a bit. 488 00:24:04,100 --> 00:24:08,500 Often times, young boys will not come forward when they've been abused. 489 00:24:08,540 --> 00:24:10,740 And so, it's completely possible 490 00:24:10,770 --> 00:24:13,040 that Jason was targeted. 491 00:24:13,070 --> 00:24:16,140 And if Jason had pent up anger 492 00:24:16,170 --> 00:24:20,300 because either he was abused or Missy was abused by Orban, 493 00:24:20,340 --> 00:24:22,470 then it would absolutely make sense 494 00:24:22,500 --> 00:24:24,300 that he can snap. 495 00:24:24,340 --> 00:24:28,100 [Larry]Once he had attacked James with several stab wounds, 496 00:24:28,140 --> 00:24:32,940 he had actually then ransacked the house looking for anything he could find. 497 00:24:32,970 --> 00:24:36,340 Then he left. He left James dead or dying on the floor. 498 00:24:37,700 --> 00:24:41,340 [Miller] Police take this confession seriously 499 00:24:41,370 --> 00:24:43,100 because a lot of the pieces fit. 500 00:24:43,140 --> 00:24:47,170 He did rob him, he was angry at Orban. 501 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,100 Perhaps Jason is the one who spray painted 502 00:24:50,140 --> 00:24:52,970 "child molester" on the garage. 503 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:58,700 We had, at that point, enough to take Jason into custody. 504 00:24:58,740 --> 00:25:01,500 [Stacy] Police now have a confession from Jason. 505 00:25:01,540 --> 00:25:03,300 But they still need to find out 506 00:25:03,340 --> 00:25:05,840 what role Missy played in this crime. 507 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,070 [Larry] We had Missy come in. 508 00:25:15,100 --> 00:25:19,000 She seemed a big agitated and she was trying to get information from us 509 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,970 without offering too much. 510 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,640 [Miller] They are turning up the heat on her by 511 00:25:24,670 --> 00:25:28,370 dropping in little details, "Well, we know this happened and we know this happened." 512 00:25:29,570 --> 00:25:31,340 [Jennifer] Missy starts to get nervous, 513 00:25:31,370 --> 00:25:33,140 she keeps threatening to leave. 514 00:25:33,170 --> 00:25:36,040 She's visibly shaken. 515 00:25:36,070 --> 00:25:40,000 [Larry] Ultimately we told her that Jason had confessed to killing James. 516 00:25:41,070 --> 00:25:44,170 Her whole demeanor changes. She just starts talking. 517 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,770 [Larry] She started sharing some details that 518 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,140 only a person familiar with the incident would know. 519 00:25:51,170 --> 00:25:53,070 Her story is just a little bit different. 520 00:25:53,100 --> 00:25:55,100 She said that he actually used a gun 521 00:25:55,140 --> 00:25:59,270 to break the glass and then the gun was knocked away. 522 00:25:59,300 --> 00:26:03,570 The gun fell on the floor so he reverted then to his pocket knife. 523 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,240 And he then used the pocket knife 524 00:26:05,270 --> 00:26:07,600 to stab James repeatedly. 525 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,100 Our investigation had already revealed the presence of 526 00:26:11,140 --> 00:26:12,770 stab wounds on the body. 527 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,540 But what's interesting is that she actually demonstrated 528 00:26:15,570 --> 00:26:19,200 exactly how the stabbing was done. 529 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:20,740 [Stacy] Police have to wonder, 530 00:26:20,770 --> 00:26:23,940 did Missy learn all of this after the fact 531 00:26:23,970 --> 00:26:26,340 or was she involved from the beginning? 532 00:26:27,740 --> 00:26:32,170 [Larry]She continues to explain to us how Jason leaves the house 533 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,000 and crosses the second avenue bridge 534 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,770 and as he's doing so, according to Missy, 535 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,400 he has a, what she described as a watchman's hat 536 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,940 and inside that hat, he had put the gun and the knife 537 00:26:44,970 --> 00:26:47,670 and she believed, James' wallet. 538 00:26:47,700 --> 00:26:50,540 And he had thrown all those into the river. 539 00:26:50,570 --> 00:26:53,240 Armed with that information, we actually reached out 540 00:26:53,270 --> 00:26:55,240 to the Michigan state police dive team 541 00:26:55,270 --> 00:26:59,070 and they made a dive and actually recovered the hat, 542 00:26:59,100 --> 00:27:02,740 the gun, the knife, but did not find the wallet. 543 00:27:03,500 --> 00:27:06,270 The DNA from the knife was not usable. 544 00:27:06,300 --> 00:27:08,700 But one thing that helped us in that process 545 00:27:08,740 --> 00:27:11,340 was Missy had actually explained that Jason had 546 00:27:11,370 --> 00:27:16,140 stabbed James so hard, at one point that he had actually used his other hand 547 00:27:16,170 --> 00:27:18,140 to drive the knife in further. 548 00:27:18,170 --> 00:27:21,400 And in that process, the tip of the knife had broken off 549 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,670 and the knife that we recovered had a broken tip. 550 00:27:24,700 --> 00:27:27,100 [Miller]She gave that to the cops and they knew that 551 00:27:27,140 --> 00:27:29,200 that still wasn't everything and they asked her, 552 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,840 "Well, what else is there?" 553 00:27:30,870 --> 00:27:34,070 She said, "I'll tell you where the clothes he was wearing were, 554 00:27:34,100 --> 00:27:36,440 but you have to take me there." 555 00:27:36,470 --> 00:27:38,600 [Larry] So we got into a patrol car and we literally 556 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,500 drove to a commercial dumpster just outside of town. 557 00:27:42,170 --> 00:27:43,500 [Miller]The officers asked her, 558 00:27:43,540 --> 00:27:45,570 "What are we gonna find in the dumpster, Missy?" 559 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,900 And she listed bloody jeans, bloody t-shirt, 560 00:27:49,940 --> 00:27:52,600 yellow Columbia jacket. 561 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,170 [Larry] As soon as we opened the dumpster, 562 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,700 she pointed two black plastic garbage bags 563 00:27:56,740 --> 00:27:58,140 and said, "That's them." 564 00:27:58,170 --> 00:28:00,670 And my partner and I pulled the bags out, 565 00:28:00,700 --> 00:28:02,800 we opened them up and guess what was inside. 566 00:28:03,540 --> 00:28:04,640 Bloody clothing. 567 00:28:09,340 --> 00:28:11,070 The clothing that was recovered 568 00:28:11,100 --> 00:28:13,140 from the dumpster was ultimately processed 569 00:28:13,170 --> 00:28:14,770 at the Michigan state police crime lab 570 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:19,440 and a positive DNA match was made to James Orban's DNA. 571 00:28:21,570 --> 00:28:23,470 Missy brought us, first of all, 572 00:28:23,500 --> 00:28:25,700 the information about where we could find the murder weapon, 573 00:28:25,740 --> 00:28:28,440 which was located and recovered. 574 00:28:28,470 --> 00:28:31,000 And where we could find the clothing that was worn 575 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,240 by the perpetrator, which was recovered. 576 00:28:34,270 --> 00:28:36,540 [Miller] Who would just roll on your brand new husband? 577 00:28:36,570 --> 00:28:40,370 Who would just absolutely throw him under the bus? 578 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,770 Right out of the gate? He wasn't in jail, 579 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,670 I don't know, 15 minutes and she was spilling 580 00:28:45,700 --> 00:28:49,800 all that she had to the officers. 581 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,670 [Larry] Ultimately, Jason was charged with the crime. 582 00:28:53,700 --> 00:28:55,800 [Miller]He stuck to his story and stuck to his story 583 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,070 and without any sort of solid proof 584 00:28:58,100 --> 00:28:59,640 that Missy had anything to do with it. 585 00:28:59,670 --> 00:29:01,140 They had to let her go. 586 00:29:01,170 --> 00:29:03,540 [Larry]It was still the feeling of all the investigators, 587 00:29:03,570 --> 00:29:08,240 the prosecutor's office, all felt that with everything that Missy had provided us, 588 00:29:08,270 --> 00:29:10,940 we felt that Jason was actually kind of taking 589 00:29:10,970 --> 00:29:13,900 the fall, if you will, for Missy. 590 00:29:13,940 --> 00:29:16,400 [Miller] Jason was gonna protect her. 591 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,600 Kept protecting her at all cost. 592 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:19,670 Kept protecting her. 593 00:29:19,700 --> 00:29:21,970 Always said he was the only one involved. 594 00:29:27,970 --> 00:29:31,070 Two years go by. Jason has gone to prison. 595 00:29:31,100 --> 00:29:33,100 Everything should be done and dusted. 596 00:29:33,970 --> 00:29:36,040 [Larry]There was a day in 2003. 597 00:29:36,070 --> 00:29:38,240 The Alpena county prosecutor gets a phone call 598 00:29:38,270 --> 00:29:40,940 and on the other end of the line is Jason Belanger. 599 00:29:40,970 --> 00:29:42,870 Jason wanted to talk. 600 00:29:42,900 --> 00:29:45,040 And he really wanted to share some information 601 00:29:45,070 --> 00:29:46,700 that he thought was going to be 602 00:29:46,740 --> 00:29:48,900 interesting for us to hear about Missy. 603 00:29:48,940 --> 00:29:50,370 [investigator speaking] 604 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,300 [Jason speaking] 605 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:09,670 I, uh... 606 00:30:24,700 --> 00:30:28,100 When Jason was first arrested and convicted, 607 00:30:28,140 --> 00:30:31,940 and sentenced to jail, Missy communicated 608 00:30:31,970 --> 00:30:34,640 with him regularly and visited him often. 609 00:30:34,670 --> 00:30:37,640 Over time, the visits got shorter, 610 00:30:37,670 --> 00:30:40,400 and like, fewer and further between. 611 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,640 And it finally dawns on him that he's been used. 612 00:30:43,670 --> 00:30:45,640 Just like she used James. 613 00:30:45,670 --> 00:30:50,140 And he finally decides that if he's going down, so is she. 614 00:30:50,170 --> 00:30:52,300 [Jason speaking] 615 00:31:40,100 --> 00:31:43,470 Jason shared with us that the planning was even to the detail by Missy 616 00:31:43,500 --> 00:31:45,800 that she had actually drawn him a map, 617 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,800 a floor plan if you will, of James' house. 618 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,100 [Jason speaking] 619 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,970 [Jennifer] I mean, this is some pretty meticulous planning. 620 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,270 It's kind of like a heist, the way that's got everything 621 00:32:05,300 --> 00:32:08,200 mapped out and marked and planned. 622 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:09,600 [Jason speaking] 623 00:32:13,900 --> 00:32:16,640 She made sure that she had an alibi, 624 00:32:16,670 --> 00:32:19,240 but took no part in making sure that 625 00:32:19,270 --> 00:32:21,440 her husband, the person that was 626 00:32:21,470 --> 00:32:24,100 committing the murder had any sort of alibi. 627 00:32:24,140 --> 00:32:25,740 [Jason speaking] 628 00:32:45,970 --> 00:32:47,600 [Miller] At this point, you get the feeling that 629 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,770 he doesn't do anything until he has say so. 630 00:32:50,870 --> 00:32:52,400 He just killed a guy. 631 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,900 He doesn't know to go home and change his clothes and take a shower? 632 00:32:54,940 --> 00:32:58,700 He goes to the senior center's and asks her what to do. 633 00:32:58,740 --> 00:33:00,340 [Jason speaking] 634 00:33:09,500 --> 00:33:11,500 [Miller]So she pays for the gas. 635 00:33:11,540 --> 00:33:14,340 And Jason puts it in two liter bottles. 636 00:33:14,370 --> 00:33:18,470 Puts it in a backpack and walks from their apartment and set the house on fire. 637 00:33:18,500 --> 00:33:20,000 [Jason speaking] 638 00:33:33,340 --> 00:33:34,900 I had an immediate peace 639 00:33:34,940 --> 00:33:37,170 after hearing what Jason told us. 640 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,500 Because all this time, this two years of Jason was behind bars, 641 00:33:40,540 --> 00:33:42,840 I as well as many others in the community 642 00:33:42,870 --> 00:33:45,100 and law enforcement community especially, 643 00:33:45,140 --> 00:33:47,200 felt that there was more to what had happened. 644 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,000 [investigator speaking] 645 00:33:55,170 --> 00:33:56,640 [Jason speaking] 646 00:33:59,570 --> 00:34:01,370 [investigator speaking] 647 00:34:04,570 --> 00:34:05,570 [Jason speaking] 648 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,300 [investigator speaking] 649 00:34:07,340 --> 00:34:08,470 [Jason speaking] 650 00:34:08,500 --> 00:34:12,300 It doesn't surprise me at all that Jason was trying to 651 00:34:12,340 --> 00:34:15,540 gain sympathy by pretending that he was abused, 652 00:34:15,570 --> 00:34:18,300 so that he could get out of trouble. 653 00:34:18,340 --> 00:34:20,900 However, what he actually did 654 00:34:20,940 --> 00:34:23,570 is take advantage of other people's pain 655 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,770 in order to benefit himself. 656 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,370 [investigator speaking] 657 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,200 [Jason speaking] 658 00:34:39,240 --> 00:34:41,940 So now, officers know that they can build a really good 659 00:34:41,970 --> 00:34:45,140 strong case against Missy, but they need more. 660 00:34:45,170 --> 00:34:47,700 [Stacy] If this is true, authorities have allowed 661 00:34:47,740 --> 00:34:49,800 a master manipulator and killer 662 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,570 to remain on the streets of Alpena. 663 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,340 They need to gather the evidence 664 00:34:54,370 --> 00:34:56,500 to bring her in, and quickly. 665 00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:07,100 The police actually talked to people that were at bingo that night 666 00:35:07,140 --> 00:35:09,640 and they claimed that earlier in the evening, 667 00:35:09,670 --> 00:35:12,270 that Missy was in a great mood. 668 00:35:12,300 --> 00:35:15,200 [Larry]Missy had come to bingo and was her normal self 669 00:35:15,240 --> 00:35:16,570 bragging about different things 670 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,440 and she was actually telling people 671 00:35:18,470 --> 00:35:20,940 that if anything ever happened to James Orban, 672 00:35:20,970 --> 00:35:23,840 she was in his will and she would inherit everything he had. 673 00:35:23,870 --> 00:35:26,040 Almost like she was proud of the fact. 674 00:35:27,100 --> 00:35:29,170 [Miller] Shortly after he was murdered, 675 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,700 she was at city hall asking for his will, 676 00:35:32,740 --> 00:35:35,600 saying he left me everything. I need a copy of the will. 677 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,440 There's never a tear shed for her friend 678 00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:40,870 who loved her enough to leave her everything. 679 00:35:41,970 --> 00:35:44,100 [Larry] So as our investigation continued, 680 00:35:44,140 --> 00:35:46,400 we actually located two different people 681 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,170 that came forward to us willingly and said, 682 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,500 "Hey, we've been friends with Missy for a while 683 00:35:51,540 --> 00:35:54,070 and guess what? She actually had asked us 684 00:35:54,100 --> 00:35:56,700 if there'd be any way that she could get us 685 00:35:56,740 --> 00:35:59,340 to eliminate James Orban." 686 00:35:59,370 --> 00:36:02,370 [Miller]So Jason wasn't the first. He wasn't even the second. 687 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,170 He was at least the third person 688 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,840 that she had asked to kill Orban for her. 689 00:36:07,870 --> 00:36:10,540 [Jennifer] This was something that she was concocting 690 00:36:10,570 --> 00:36:13,570 way before she ever came back in touch with Jason 691 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,700 and so, he was just the first person 692 00:36:15,740 --> 00:36:18,100 that said yes, essentially. 693 00:36:18,140 --> 00:36:19,800 [Larry] Missy had left Alpena. She was living on 694 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,040 the other side of the state at that time. 695 00:36:22,070 --> 00:36:24,400 And we knew that she needed to be interrogated. 696 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,800 Missy just started crying. She just broke down in tears 697 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,700 and she just was uncontrollable 698 00:36:30,740 --> 00:36:31,800 for a period of time. 699 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,400 She basically denied any involvement in it, 700 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:35,740 any responsibility for it. 701 00:36:35,770 --> 00:36:38,800 It had all been Jason's plan and she was not a part of it. 702 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,270 [Melissa speaking] 703 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:42,370 [both speaking indistinctly] 704 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,540 [investigator speaking] 705 00:36:48,740 --> 00:36:49,900 [Melissa speaking] 706 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,340 [investigator speaking] 707 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:56,840 [Melissa speaking] 708 00:37:01,970 --> 00:37:04,570 Finally, the officers actually got her to settle down 709 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,000 to the point where Missy was no longer 710 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,440 crying uncontrollably. 711 00:37:07,470 --> 00:37:10,240 She started to begin to admit some involvement. 712 00:37:10,270 --> 00:37:11,640 [Melissa speaking] 713 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,100 [Bill] She said it in such a way that 714 00:37:40,140 --> 00:37:43,900 she didn't really want him to do it. 715 00:37:43,940 --> 00:37:47,600 But if it did happen, it would've been beneficial to her. 716 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,100 She said that the goal of going over there 717 00:37:51,140 --> 00:37:53,200 wasn't to necessarily kill Mr. Orban. 718 00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:55,770 The goal of going over there was to rob him. 719 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,070 [investigator speaking] 720 00:38:05,940 --> 00:38:07,440 [Melissa speaking] 721 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:18,770 [investigator speaking] 722 00:38:21,700 --> 00:38:23,000 [Melissa speaking] 723 00:38:26,370 --> 00:38:28,070 [investigator speaking] 724 00:38:28,100 --> 00:38:29,670 [Melissa speaking] 725 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,400 The felony murder statute in Michigan, 726 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,500 if you conspire to commit a felony with another individual, 727 00:38:39,540 --> 00:38:42,440 and during that event there is a killing, 728 00:38:42,470 --> 00:38:44,840 whether it be first degree, second degree, 729 00:38:44,870 --> 00:38:47,100 or willful and wanton disregard 730 00:38:47,140 --> 00:38:50,000 it's still subjects you to the felony murder statute, 731 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,870 which in Michigan is first degree murder. 732 00:38:52,900 --> 00:38:54,570 It's life without parole, so. 733 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,240 Her admission to engaging in the planning of the robbery 734 00:38:58,270 --> 00:39:00,340 and the conspiracy to commit the robbery 735 00:39:00,370 --> 00:39:03,800 was enough at that point to convict her of first degree murder 736 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:08,700 whether she knew Jason was going to kill Mr. Orban or not. 737 00:39:08,740 --> 00:39:10,370 [Larry] And ultimately, she was charged 738 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,400 in the murder of James Orban and arrested 739 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,940 and I actually transported her back to Alpena county 740 00:39:15,970 --> 00:39:18,040 where she was lodged pending trial. 741 00:39:19,470 --> 00:39:21,970 [Miller] One of the reasons Jason and Melissa got married, 742 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,070 I don't think it's the only reason. 743 00:39:24,100 --> 00:39:26,340 I think Jason married her 'cause he loved her, 744 00:39:26,370 --> 00:39:29,000 but Missy married him because they believed that 745 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,900 spouses cannot be compelled to testify against each other. 746 00:39:31,940 --> 00:39:33,340 [Jason speaking] 747 00:39:43,170 --> 00:39:45,670 And they didn't keep up on Michigan law because 748 00:39:45,700 --> 00:39:47,140 that had long since changed. [chuckles] 749 00:39:49,940 --> 00:39:52,040 [Larry] Jason was the star witness. 750 00:39:52,070 --> 00:39:53,440 He provided a lot of evidence 751 00:39:53,470 --> 00:39:54,770 that we wouldn't have otherwise had. 752 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,870 And Jason, through that testimony, 753 00:39:56,900 --> 00:39:58,870 not only did he get a plea arrangement, 754 00:39:58,900 --> 00:40:01,800 but he got the satisfaction of seeing Missy 755 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,040 actually going to prison. 756 00:40:04,070 --> 00:40:06,670 Even though Jason was responsible for the death, 757 00:40:06,700 --> 00:40:09,640 it's always not that person who should pay the largest price. 758 00:40:09,670 --> 00:40:11,540 In this case, Missy was the planner. 759 00:40:11,570 --> 00:40:13,540 It was for her to benefit from, 760 00:40:13,570 --> 00:40:16,100 and ultimately, she's being held accountable. 761 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,100 [Miller] There was one more big surprise for Melissa, 762 00:40:31,140 --> 00:40:34,440 and that his estate was not worth two million dollars. 763 00:40:34,470 --> 00:40:37,670 [Jennifer] Not only did he not have two million dollars, 764 00:40:37,700 --> 00:40:40,440 but his house and his car was left to his brother 765 00:40:40,470 --> 00:40:44,570 and his car still had $6,000 worth of loans attached to it. 766 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,940 So there was no money. There was no inheritance 767 00:40:47,970 --> 00:40:50,240 and all of this was for nothing. 768 00:40:50,270 --> 00:40:55,040 [Stacy] Criminals like Missy tend to overestimate themselves. 769 00:40:55,070 --> 00:40:57,170 She was ignorant about the system, 770 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,640 and arrogant enough to believe that she was going to get away with 771 00:41:00,670 --> 00:41:02,870 everything she had done. 772 00:41:02,900 --> 00:41:05,040 [Larry] There are Missies in this world. 773 00:41:05,070 --> 00:41:08,640 There are people in this world who want to be in control. 774 00:41:08,670 --> 00:41:10,700 And Missy's desire to control others 775 00:41:10,740 --> 00:41:11,870 basically took over and controlled her. 776 00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:22,500 She knew she could manipulate people. 777 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,570 You can't argue with somebody that's drunk or in love. 778 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,600 Things started to escalate very quickly. 779 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,440 She fell hard. 780 00:41:30,470 --> 00:41:33,470 They could be together if it wasn't for Mike. 781 00:41:33,500 --> 00:41:36,300 This is the final lie. 70826

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