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- [officer speaking]
- [Chacey speaking]
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She was clearly hysterical.
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[Shane Meek speaking]
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She was coming into her own
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as this new young mom
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who was very fit.
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She had a lot
of men under her spell.
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[Mark McAdams]
My first reaction was
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she killed him.
She killed him.
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[Calvin Grogan]
There's no doubt
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that he is
infatuated with her.
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[Michael Burk] She would
sext him text messages
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and videos.
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[Claire St. Amant]
At one point he even says
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"I'll rock
an orange jumpsuit."
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[Grogan] He is thinking
with one body part only.
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Royse City is a small town
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about 30 miles east of Dallas.
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You go to the football game
on Friday night
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and you go to church
on Sunday morning
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and that's sort
of the social life.
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[Stacy Kaiser] This is
the kind of place
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where people marry young
and start families.
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But those families don't
always stay together.
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And sometimes, a new person
comes into your life.
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A person who will do anything
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to get what she wants.
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[St. Amant]
It's about 10:45 p.m.
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on September 9th, 2016
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and the Hunt County
Sheriff's Department receives
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a frantic 911 call
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from a woman in distress.
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[phone ringing]
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[woman sobbing]
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[911 operator speaking]
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The woman is
obviously frantic.
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She's breathing heavily.
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[operator speaking]
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[woman speaking]
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[operator speaking]
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Phone call did not last
very long.
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Then disconnected.
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[operator speaking]
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[Burk] Shortly after that,
we got notified
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that somebody driving
down the road
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saw a female
waving her arms around,
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screaming for help
and they called 911
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which alerted the Royse City
officers to that location.
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[police siren wailing]
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[Meek] 2595, which is
a farm to market road.
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It's more like a tractor road.
People don't even drive it.
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It's meant for farming.
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It's not paved or anything.
It's just mud.
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[officer speaking]
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The officer stops
and talks to her,
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and it's determined that
this is actually the person
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that just placed the 911 call.
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[officer speaking]
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[Burk] She had blood on her,
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screaming that
her husband had been shot.
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They secured her
in their squad car,
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and they proceeded
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to walk down the county road
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to attempt
to locate her husband.
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So as they're walking down
County Road 2595,
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there is a single truck
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that can be seen
on this dirt road.
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It was running.
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The driver's side door was
open. There was nobody in it.
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They proceeded
down past the truck.
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They could see
headlights in the distance.
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They started walking
towards that
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and then they realized
there was a body sitting
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in the driver seat
of a white jeep.
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As they start making
their approach
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closer to the driver,
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they realized he was deceased.
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They start sending out
information over the radio,
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send additional units,
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notify the sergeant on duty,
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to come and assist.
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I asked, "What
do you have? A murder?"
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And she said,
"Actually, I think
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that we do have a murder."
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So when I arrived on scene,
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Deputy Hoover met me
up the road
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and started giving me
a rundown
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of what had transpired.
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He advised me
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that the female caller
who was hysterical
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was secured in Officer Bivin's
patrol vehicle.
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So, at that time,
I then went over
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and made contact with her.
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She was clearly upset
and distraught.
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I observed her
to be covered in mud
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and had blood on her.
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And she was
just hyperventilating.
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[Meek speaking]
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[medic 1 speaking]
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[Meek speaking]
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[Meek speaking]
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[Kaiser] You can see
how upsetting this is
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for Chacey.
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Her husband has
been shot and killed.
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You can tell by the way
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she's talking and reacting
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that it's taking
a tremendous toll on her.
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And you can't help
but feel for her.
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[Meek speaking]
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[Meek] Okay.
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Her and her husband,
Robert Poynter, were
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supposed to be meeting
at the Jack in the Box
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to have tacos.
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While coming down this road
she's never been on,
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she gets her Jeep stuck.
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And so she was texting him
and calling him
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and tellin' him
that she got stuck,
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didn't know where she was at
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and she sent him
a map location
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of where she was
on that dirt road,
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and asked him
to respond to the location
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to assist her
gettin' her Jeep unstuck.
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She says that
when he got there,
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he parked his truck
up at the front of the road,
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'cause he didn't want
to drive it down there
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and get it stuck.
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[Meek speaking]
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So, she met him
halfway on the road
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and they walked down
to her Jeep on foot.
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And once they made it
to the Jeep,
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he told her
to stand out of the way
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and he got into
the driver's seat of the Jeep.
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[Chacey speaking]
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[gunshot]
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[Meek] She hears
a loud gunshot
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and then sees a dark figure
standing in front of the Jeep.
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She didn't see a weapon,
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didn't know if he was White,
Black or Hispanic,
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so she took off running.
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She pulls her cell phone out,
starts calling 911,
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then whenever
the dispatchers answer the phone,
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she says she trips,
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falls into a water puddle
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and loses her phone.
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She picked herself up
and continued running
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to the roadway where she was
able to flag down motorists,
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contact 911 again.
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[Burk] I received a phone call
from Rockwall County dispatch
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advising that they'd believed
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a homicide had just occurred
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and I was being
dispatched out.
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I'd been through some training
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for homicide investigations
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but it was
my first actual case
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for a homicide to investigate.
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So, my first task was
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to kind of canvass
the crime scene.
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I see Robert's truck
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and you can see a skid mark
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or a slide mark
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where it looks
like somebody slid into mud
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which wouldn't match
what Chacey said.
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And as we're looking
at this mud puddle
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there's a glimmer,
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a spark, you know,
a white light
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that shined the back at us,
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and realized
it's a cell phone.
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Luckily, it was waterproof
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and we were able to retrieve
the phone at that time.
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When I get close to the Jeep,
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I look at the deceased,
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start looking
at the surrounding area.
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The first thing I notice is
there is brain matter
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and blood everywhere.
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There was
a circular impact point
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on the back right side
of his head.
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It was pretty apparent
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that the weapon used
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in the murder would
be a shotgun.
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We searched the vehicle.
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Chacey's purse was still
on the front floorboard
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Robert's cell phone was
still in the cup holder.
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Nothing was taken out
of the vehicle.
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So we had no belief
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that this was a robbery
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or an attempted theft
of any kind.
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We start kind of brainstorming
of what may have happened.
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The area is
very heavily wooded.
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It's in the middle of nowhere.
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Some stranger steps out
of the trees,
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out here in the middle
of hundreds of acres
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and shoots a man point blank
in the head with a shotgun?
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It just did not make sense.
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Our fears tell us
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there's bad guys out there
in the woods
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but that just doesn't happen.
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And it definitely doesn't
happen in Royse City.
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[Kaiser] If this wasn't
a random shooting...
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- [gunshot]
- ...what was it?
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Why would Chacey make up
a story like this?
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And what does that tell police
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about the state
of her marriage?
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[St. Amant] Robert Poynter was
47 years old,
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worked as a fire captain
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at the University Park
Fire Department in Dallas.
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[McAdams] I first met
Bob Poynter in 1998
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when I started
as a firefighter
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at the City of
University Park, Texas.
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He was big,
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quiet, scary,
didn't smile a lot.
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My first impression was
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he looked like a firefighter.
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[Earl Starnes] He looked
intimidating,
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but once you get to know him,
he's completely the opposite.
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[Grogan] Everybody said
he was a gentle giant,
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or a big teddy bear.
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He'd do anything for anybody,
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he'd give you the shirt
off his back,
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was the way
Robert was described.
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[St. Amant] Bob had married
his high school sweetheart, Amy.
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And they had been together
for about 20 years.
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They had two children together
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who were almost grown.
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It was one
of those early romances
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that blossomed
into marriage and a family.
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[McAdams] But
just like everybody else
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that's been married
for a long time,
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people change, things change,
attitudes change.
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And that's what
they were going through.
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And when that was happenin',
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Chacey showed up.
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In 2007, Bob Poynter meets
Chacey Mormon
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who at that time
was only 20 years old.
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and was working
as a nurse's aide.
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Robert is working up
at the fire station
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and a very attractive,
younger blonde female comes to the station
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and that ends up being
Chacey Poynter.
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[St. Amant] She would
bring cookies.
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She would bring doughnuts.
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And she was happy
to chat up the firefighters.
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She appeared to have
an attraction to Bob.
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Then she sort of
singled him out
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and they struck up
a relationship.
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And it eventually turned
into an affair.
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[Kaiser] Marriages can
grow stale over time.
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And it seems
that's what happened
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with Robert Poynter
and his wife.
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And then he meets
an attractive woman
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18 years younger than him
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who was showing him
a lot of attention
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and he falls for her.
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[McAdams] She seemed friendly
and easy to talk to.
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She knew exactly what to say,
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exactly what to do
to pull the strings.
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[Grogan] I think
from Chacey's point of view,
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here's an older man
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that seems to be
secure in life.
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She's wanting bigger
and better things at this point.
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And so Robert's
the perfect guy.
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He gave her
a lot of attention.
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I don't believe Chacey had
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a lot of physical
male attraction
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when she was younger.
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Robert is so infatuated
with Chacey
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that he ends the marriage
with his wife,
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uh, gets divorced,
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and starts
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a very heavy relationship
with Chacey.
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[St. Amant] Bob
and Amy divorce
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and he marries Chacey
in December 2009.
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At the time,
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Chacey is seven months
pregnant with their child.
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[McAdams] I was very surprised
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when they decided
to get married.
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Because it had been so soon
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after his other marriage
had ended.
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And... and so...
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we had conversations
about that,
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like, "Man, you know,
are you sure?"
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And he was pretty sure
of himself at the time.
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[St. Amant] When Chacey
got pregnant,
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like a lot of women,
she ended up,
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you know,
with some extra weight
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after the baby was born
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that she had trouble losing.
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[Grogan] She wasn't able
to lose that weight
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and that caused her
some ego problems.
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[St. Amant] She starts
exercising pretty heavily,
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starts dieting,
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and she ends up losing
over 100 pounds.
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It was a big change.
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And she was coming
into her own
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as this new young mom
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who was very fit.
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[Kaiser] Many women
have gone through this.
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They gain weight in pregnancy
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and that causes issues
of low self-esteem.
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When Chacey manages
to lose that weight.
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it's clearly empowering
for her.
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[Starnes] When she started
losing the weight,
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she was posting herself
all over Facebook
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with these pictures of her
getting thinner, thinner and thinner.
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All the pictures she was
posting on Facebook,
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it was never a picture
of her and Bob.
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Not once.
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Thinking to myself like,
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"You would never even know
that she was married to Bob
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just by looking
at her Facebook page."
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[Grogan] The more weight
she lost,
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the more attractive she felt
inside and outside,
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the more confident she became,
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and the more willing she was
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to step outside the boundaries
of the marriage.
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[St. Amant] She had started
to meet men everywhere.
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She met them
at the grocery store.
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She met them on her jogs
around the neighborhood.
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And she would begin
to flirt with them,
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to text with them,
to start relationships.
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And her communication got
to be so frequent on her phone
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that her husband Bob started
to wonder,
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"Who is she talking to
all the time?
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Who is she texting?"
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And he started
to get suspicious
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that maybe she was
cheating on him.
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Bob was deeply suspicious
at this point in the marriage,
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seven years in,
about Chacey's fidelity,
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or lack of it.
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One of Bob's daughters
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that was living with him
at the time,
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found Chacey's laptop open
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and Chacey was
having a conversation
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with one of the guys
she was having an affair with.
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So she clued Bob into that
when she found it.
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Bob, he was angry.
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He was upset.
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He was hurt. 'Cause he did.
He cared about her.
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The marriage is on the rocks
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and, you know, in an effort
to try to re-engage his wife,
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he suggests that they go
on a vacation to Mexico.
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[McAdams] He wanted
to keep the marriage together and he thought,
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"Man, this is the perfect way
to do that."
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[Kaiser] Bob has already gone
through one divorce
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and the last thing he wants
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is for it to happen again.
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But this time, the shoe is
on the other foot.
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He's not the one who's
straying, it's Chacey.
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The question is, does she want
to save the marriage,
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and at this point,
is that even possible.
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00:15:51,300 --> 00:15:55,567
Unfortunately, the relocation
to Mexico did not change
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the temperature
of their marriage.
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Chacey was
constantly on her phone,
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she was messaging people,
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she was being very secretive.
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He called me
the day they got back,
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and, you know, I was like,
"Hey, man. How did it go?"
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And he told me, "I'm gettin'
ahold of my lawyer.
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That's it. I'm done with it."
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And so, I said,
"All right, man." You know. "I'm with you."
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00:16:20,667 --> 00:16:23,233
And he got killed that night.
360
00:16:28,467 --> 00:16:29,867
[Meek speaking over radio]
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00:16:31,333 --> 00:16:33,800
That night
the ambulance crew ended up
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00:16:33,834 --> 00:16:35,400
needing to go
take another call,
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00:16:35,433 --> 00:16:36,700
so I moved Chacey back
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00:16:36,734 --> 00:16:39,166
over to Officer Bivin's
patrol vehicle
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00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,600
and then I continued
interviewing over there.
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00:16:41,634 --> 00:16:43,700
And she started tellin' me
367
00:16:43,734 --> 00:16:46,200
about how she
and her husband Robert were
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00:16:46,233 --> 00:16:48,033
having marital problems.
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00:16:58,634 --> 00:16:59,934
[Meek] She's
still breathin' heavy.
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00:16:59,967 --> 00:17:01,467
She's still stutterin'
371
00:17:01,500 --> 00:17:03,500
and not speaking
full sentences.
372
00:17:05,100 --> 00:17:07,700
But when I'd step away
from talking to her,
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00:17:07,734 --> 00:17:08,734
she'd calm down.
374
00:17:08,767 --> 00:17:10,900
But I'd step over
to talk to her,
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00:17:10,934 --> 00:17:13,200
she'd start hyperventilating.
376
00:17:13,233 --> 00:17:15,166
And she continued
that behavior
377
00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:16,967
the entire time
I talked to her.
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00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:18,734
I mean, it just wasn't normal.
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Chacey then started tellin' me
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how she stayed
at a friend's house out in Quinlan.
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00:17:44,266 --> 00:17:46,600
And as I continued
talking to her,
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she starts getting
deeper into the story.
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00:17:48,900 --> 00:17:50,934
And I asked her, "Are you
in a relationship
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00:17:50,967 --> 00:17:54,834
with Michael Garza?"
And she hesitated a little bit
385
00:17:54,867 --> 00:17:56,100
but then
she eventually admitted
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00:17:56,133 --> 00:17:58,900
that, yes, she was
in a relationship with him.
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00:17:58,934 --> 00:18:00,467
[Meek speaking]
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00:18:14,934 --> 00:18:15,967
She admitted to me
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00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,266
that they'd had
sexual intercourse that night
390
00:18:18,300 --> 00:18:21,634
prior to her leaving
to go meet with her husband.
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00:18:21,667 --> 00:18:23,567
[Kaiser] She's on her way
to meet her husband
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00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,533
to discuss
their marital problems.
393
00:18:25,567 --> 00:18:28,367
But she's just had
sex with another man.
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00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,233
Clearly, there's
a lot more to this story
395
00:18:30,266 --> 00:18:31,533
than she's been letting on,
396
00:18:31,567 --> 00:18:34,367
and the police need
to find out what it is.
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00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,133
- [Meek] Okay? All right.
- [Chacey] Yeah.
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[Meek] I stepped away
from speaking to her
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00:18:39,066 --> 00:18:40,600
and I informed detective Burk
400
00:18:40,634 --> 00:18:43,800
and the other officers
on scene what she'd said.
401
00:18:45,100 --> 00:18:46,900
They actually pulled up
402
00:18:46,934 --> 00:18:49,300
the Facebook
of this Michael Garza
403
00:18:49,333 --> 00:18:51,200
and got a picture of him
404
00:18:51,233 --> 00:18:54,033
and he was holding a shotgun.
405
00:19:12,266 --> 00:19:13,166
[Meek] Mm-hmm.
406
00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,200
- [gunshot]
- [Chacey continues]
407
00:19:33,867 --> 00:19:36,634
Detectives are skeptical
of Chacey's story.
408
00:19:36,667 --> 00:19:39,333
The idea that a man would be
hiding in the woods
409
00:19:39,367 --> 00:19:41,500
for no apparent reason
and come out
410
00:19:41,533 --> 00:19:43,200
and shoot her husband
in the head,
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00:19:43,233 --> 00:19:44,900
it doesn't make
a lot of sense.
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00:19:44,934 --> 00:19:48,000
So they decide to bring her in
for additional questioning.
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00:19:57,634 --> 00:19:59,634
[Burk] Have a seat right here
in this gray chair for me.
414
00:19:59,667 --> 00:20:02,100
I just kind of
briefly asked her,
415
00:20:02,133 --> 00:20:04,166
tell me a little bit
about herself, and what was going on.
416
00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,333
She began by tellin' me
417
00:20:07,367 --> 00:20:09,300
about her relationship
with her husband
418
00:20:09,333 --> 00:20:11,367
and things were not
going very well
419
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:12,600
between her and her husband.
420
00:20:13,166 --> 00:20:14,767
[Chacey speaking]
421
00:20:19,367 --> 00:20:20,433
[Burk speaking]
422
00:20:22,467 --> 00:20:23,600
[Chacey speaking]
423
00:20:37,300 --> 00:20:40,533
She claimed that her husband
was abusing her,
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00:20:40,567 --> 00:20:43,033
that he was
physically abusive.
425
00:20:43,066 --> 00:20:46,300
She is basically portraying
herself as a victim
426
00:20:46,333 --> 00:20:48,800
to Detective Burk
at this time.
427
00:20:48,834 --> 00:20:50,767
[Kaiser] This is
a very different version
428
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,166
of Robert Poynter
than his friends have given.
429
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:57,400
But it's not unusual for abuse
to stay hidden in the home.
430
00:20:58,467 --> 00:21:00,367
The police have
to now figure out
431
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:01,634
if there was abuse,
432
00:21:01,667 --> 00:21:06,533
and if so, was it connected
to his murder in some way.
433
00:21:06,567 --> 00:21:08,367
[Burk] Chacey tells me
over and over again
434
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,667
that she doesn't know
who murdered her husband.
435
00:21:10,700 --> 00:21:13,100
Just some unknown figure
who just came out of nowhere
436
00:21:13,133 --> 00:21:14,133
and shot her husband.
437
00:21:14,166 --> 00:21:16,767
I wasn't buying that.
It didn't make sense.
438
00:21:17,433 --> 00:21:18,700
[Burk speaking]
439
00:21:37,033 --> 00:21:40,000
Every time that things would
start getting, I guess,
440
00:21:40,033 --> 00:21:42,834
heavy in the interview,
that's where she would go.
441
00:21:42,867 --> 00:21:44,934
"I didn't kill my husband.
I didn't kill my husband."
442
00:22:15,767 --> 00:22:17,967
[Chacey speaking]
443
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,100
Detective Burk
keeps hitting her
444
00:22:25,133 --> 00:22:26,066
over and over again
445
00:22:26,100 --> 00:22:27,333
and that he's
just not believing her.
446
00:22:38,834 --> 00:22:42,066
It starts to break down
and wear down on Chacey
447
00:22:42,100 --> 00:22:43,500
where she now starts talking
448
00:22:43,533 --> 00:22:45,166
about this guy
that she's been seeing,
449
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,200
that she'd met
on the Internet,
450
00:22:47,233 --> 00:22:48,600
Michael Garza.
451
00:22:54,934 --> 00:22:57,200
[Chacey speaking]
452
00:23:21,133 --> 00:23:22,400
- [Burk speaking]
- [Chacey speaking]
453
00:23:27,467 --> 00:23:30,667
Chacey tells police that
Garza is extremely jealous.
454
00:23:30,700 --> 00:23:32,834
He has threatened violence
in the past.
455
00:23:32,867 --> 00:23:34,800
He does not like the fact
456
00:23:34,834 --> 00:23:36,734
that she is still
in a relationship
457
00:23:36,767 --> 00:23:37,767
with her husband.
458
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,300
[Chacey speaking]
459
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:51,800
[Burk speaking]
460
00:23:51,834 --> 00:23:53,867
[Chacey speaking]
461
00:23:53,900 --> 00:23:57,066
So, Michael Garza was
both jealous and angry
462
00:23:57,100 --> 00:23:58,667
at Robert Poynter.
463
00:23:58,700 --> 00:24:01,033
Could this have led him
to shoot Bob?
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00:24:01,066 --> 00:24:02,000
[gunshot]
465
00:24:02,033 --> 00:24:05,000
And if so, did he do it
to protect Chacey,
466
00:24:05,033 --> 00:24:07,634
or so he could
have her for himself?
467
00:24:27,166 --> 00:24:28,133
[Chasey speaking softly]
468
00:25:05,634 --> 00:25:08,467
So, Chacey tells police
that she didn't believe
469
00:25:08,500 --> 00:25:11,200
Michael was going
to actually shoot Bob.
470
00:25:11,233 --> 00:25:13,967
She thought the plan was
just to scare him,
471
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,800
to intimidate him.
472
00:25:15,834 --> 00:25:17,367
[Grogan] All that's
going to happen is
473
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,500
that when they get out there
and Robert shows up,
474
00:25:20,533 --> 00:25:22,834
her new boyfriend,
Michael Garza is gonna
475
00:25:22,867 --> 00:25:25,433
go up to Robert
and threaten him with violence
476
00:25:25,467 --> 00:25:29,133
if he won't stop
the abuse towards Chacey.
477
00:25:30,100 --> 00:25:32,033
[Chacey sobbing and speaking]
478
00:26:02,166 --> 00:26:05,100
She's so upset,
she turns to run away
479
00:26:05,133 --> 00:26:06,834
from the scene of the murder,
480
00:26:06,867 --> 00:26:09,000
gets on her phone
and calls 911.
481
00:26:09,033 --> 00:26:10,967
Michael Garza comes after her
482
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,500
and knocks the phone
out of her hand
483
00:26:13,533 --> 00:26:15,300
and ends the 911 call.
484
00:26:15,333 --> 00:26:18,867
And according to her,
then he just runs out into the woods and runs away.
485
00:26:20,867 --> 00:26:21,867
[Chacey crying]
486
00:26:21,900 --> 00:26:23,767
[Burk speaking]
487
00:26:26,533 --> 00:26:29,300
[Chacey continues crying]
488
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,734
Now that Chacey has
implicated Michael Garza
489
00:26:38,767 --> 00:26:40,200
in the murder of her husband,
490
00:26:40,233 --> 00:26:42,266
police have to find him.
491
00:26:42,300 --> 00:26:44,266
He's a long haul trucker.
492
00:26:44,300 --> 00:26:47,066
So, they immediately worry
493
00:26:47,100 --> 00:26:48,867
that he is going
to hit the road.
494
00:26:48,900 --> 00:26:52,033
He could leave the state,
he could leave the country.
495
00:26:52,066 --> 00:26:53,567
When you're wanted for murder,
496
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,367
there's really no telling
what you might do.
497
00:27:33,567 --> 00:27:35,834
Chacey Poynter,
after her interview,
498
00:27:35,867 --> 00:27:39,000
and after continuing
to implicate herself,
499
00:27:39,033 --> 00:27:41,533
talks herself
into being arrested
500
00:27:41,567 --> 00:27:43,467
for conspiracy
to commit murder.
501
00:27:48,867 --> 00:27:51,367
Police are worried
that Michael Garza might
502
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:52,467
disappear on them.
503
00:27:52,500 --> 00:27:54,000
He's a trucker,
504
00:27:54,033 --> 00:27:57,500
and if he has heard
that Chacey has turned on him,
505
00:27:57,533 --> 00:27:59,367
then he's a desperate man.
506
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,200
And you never know
what a desperate man might do.
507
00:28:03,834 --> 00:28:06,266
We started gathering warrants,
508
00:28:06,300 --> 00:28:07,934
uh, search warrants,
509
00:28:07,967 --> 00:28:10,066
arrest warrants,
stuff like that,
510
00:28:10,100 --> 00:28:13,233
and proceeded
to go to his house,
511
00:28:13,266 --> 00:28:15,767
which he was
not there at the time,
512
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,367
and conducted a search
at the residence.
513
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,867
We found out that he had
family here in town.
514
00:28:20,900 --> 00:28:24,233
Officers went
to his family's house trying to locate him.
515
00:28:24,266 --> 00:28:26,600
Of course, they claimed
they haven't spoken to him
516
00:28:26,634 --> 00:28:29,033
and hadn't seen him.
517
00:28:29,066 --> 00:28:31,533
There's always a sense
of urgency to find a suspect.
518
00:28:31,567 --> 00:28:33,533
Is he gonna
go kill somebody else?
519
00:28:33,567 --> 00:28:35,667
Is he, you know,
gonna destroy evidence?
520
00:28:35,700 --> 00:28:37,634
We also didn't have
his side of the story.
521
00:28:37,667 --> 00:28:39,133
Chacey may have
had us all fooled.
522
00:28:41,467 --> 00:28:43,233
I was at home
when I got a call
523
00:28:43,266 --> 00:28:45,433
from a battalion chief
524
00:28:45,467 --> 00:28:48,066
and said, "I can only talk
for a minute or two.
525
00:28:48,100 --> 00:28:51,300
I just wanna let you know
that... Bob's dead.
526
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,867
I don't have all the details."
527
00:28:53,900 --> 00:28:56,400
So, I kind of sat there
on the side of the bed
528
00:28:56,433 --> 00:28:58,767
and it didn't really sink in.
529
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,967
My first reaction was,
530
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,634
"She killed him.
She killed him."
531
00:29:06,900 --> 00:29:08,600
The fact that...
532
00:29:08,634 --> 00:29:11,066
he had talked to me
the day before and said,
533
00:29:11,100 --> 00:29:12,967
"I'm gettin' a divorce."
534
00:29:13,667 --> 00:29:16,000
And me just seeing
535
00:29:16,033 --> 00:29:18,634
everything that had
happened up until that point,
536
00:29:18,667 --> 00:29:21,567
you know, there was
no doubt in my mind.
537
00:29:22,767 --> 00:29:24,634
I told Bob, I remember saying,
I said, "Man,
538
00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:26,300
that girl's crazy.
539
00:29:27,233 --> 00:29:28,367
She's crazy."
540
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:39,700
[St. Amant] Two days
after the murder,
541
00:29:39,734 --> 00:29:41,900
to the surprise
of just about everyone,
542
00:29:41,934 --> 00:29:44,533
Michael Garza turns
himself in.
543
00:30:05,266 --> 00:30:07,066
[Burk] When he refused
to speak to me,
544
00:30:07,100 --> 00:30:09,333
I was
very disappointed. Absolutely.
545
00:30:09,367 --> 00:30:10,867
If he was truly innocent,
546
00:30:10,900 --> 00:30:13,967
any way that we could clear
his name, would've been great.
547
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,400
But he chose not to.
548
00:30:17,867 --> 00:30:21,233
We've now got what we believe
may be the shooter.
549
00:30:21,266 --> 00:30:23,100
We were able
to track his whereabouts
550
00:30:23,133 --> 00:30:24,934
based on
his cell phone number.
551
00:30:24,967 --> 00:30:26,200
And that really matched up
552
00:30:26,233 --> 00:30:28,100
with where
the murder happened,
553
00:30:28,133 --> 00:30:29,233
which was at Royse City area
554
00:30:29,266 --> 00:30:31,200
behind the high-school
on that county road.
555
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,600
On October 7th, 2016,
556
00:30:34,634 --> 00:30:36,033
about a month
after the murder,
557
00:30:36,066 --> 00:30:37,867
we got a big break
in our case.
558
00:30:40,266 --> 00:30:41,533
A quarter mile south-west
559
00:30:41,567 --> 00:30:44,634
from where
the murder scene had occurred,
560
00:30:44,667 --> 00:30:48,533
a farmer found a shotgun
out of his field.
561
00:30:48,567 --> 00:30:52,400
He contacted 911.
Officers were sent on scene.
562
00:30:53,133 --> 00:30:54,500
When they took
the serial number
563
00:30:54,533 --> 00:30:56,066
off this recovered shotgun,
564
00:30:56,100 --> 00:30:58,033
and ran it through
the ATF search,
565
00:30:58,066 --> 00:31:00,500
it came back
with the purchaser
566
00:31:00,533 --> 00:31:03,266
of this shotgun being
a Matthew Garza,
567
00:31:03,300 --> 00:31:05,100
Michael Garza's brother.
568
00:31:05,133 --> 00:31:06,533
What was interesting is
569
00:31:06,567 --> 00:31:08,967
if you were to draw
a vertical line
570
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,233
from where Robert Poynter was
slouched over dead that night
571
00:31:12,266 --> 00:31:13,567
on that county road,
572
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,467
to Michael Garza's
mother's house,
573
00:31:15,500 --> 00:31:18,233
it goes right through
that farmer's field.
574
00:31:18,266 --> 00:31:20,033
We also had the picture
of him off Facebook
575
00:31:20,066 --> 00:31:23,767
holding what appeared to be
the exact same shotgun.
576
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,734
[Grogan] Most of the evidence
seems to indicate
577
00:31:25,767 --> 00:31:28,300
that the person most familiar
with the shotgun would've been
578
00:31:28,333 --> 00:31:29,600
the person
who pulled the trigger.
579
00:31:29,634 --> 00:31:31,300
It would've been
Michael Garza.
580
00:31:33,967 --> 00:31:36,767
It looks like Michael Garza
was indeed the shooter.
581
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:41,000
But the big question
police haven't been able to answer is,
582
00:31:41,033 --> 00:31:44,667
"What role did Chacey play
in the crime?"
583
00:31:44,700 --> 00:31:46,800
[St. Amant] When police get
into Chacey's phone,
584
00:31:46,834 --> 00:31:49,734
they find a treasure trove
of evidence.
585
00:31:49,767 --> 00:31:54,634
She has texted Michael Garza
hundreds of times.
586
00:31:54,667 --> 00:32:00,634
The messages between Michael
and Chacey show his mindset.
587
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,634
[Grogan] There's no doubt
that he is infatuated
588
00:32:04,667 --> 00:32:06,133
with Chacey Poynter,
just from reading
589
00:32:06,166 --> 00:32:07,233
his text messages
590
00:32:07,266 --> 00:32:09,967
that were recovered
off of Chacey's phone.
591
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,800
"I'm willing to protect you
and never hurt you."
592
00:32:12,834 --> 00:32:15,300
This is on August 9th, 2016.
593
00:32:15,333 --> 00:32:17,767
"You're one that deserves
to be treated like a queen."
594
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,567
A little later, "I reckon
the question would be
595
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,266
what I wouldn't do for you.
596
00:32:22,900 --> 00:32:24,100
The answer is nothing."
597
00:32:26,133 --> 00:32:28,000
At one point, he even says,
598
00:32:28,033 --> 00:32:30,834
"I'll rock
an orange jumpsuit."
599
00:32:30,867 --> 00:32:32,667
Which seems to mean
600
00:32:32,700 --> 00:32:35,634
that he's willing to go
to prison for Chacey.
601
00:32:35,667 --> 00:32:38,700
He is thinking
with one body part only at this point.
602
00:32:38,734 --> 00:32:40,467
He's not thinking
with his brain.
603
00:32:43,533 --> 00:32:46,533
In July 2018, the State
of Texas decides to go
604
00:32:46,567 --> 00:32:49,000
to trial first
on Michael Garza.
605
00:32:49,033 --> 00:32:51,233
At the trial,
he basically tries to say
606
00:32:51,266 --> 00:32:52,700
that it was all Chacey.
607
00:32:54,700 --> 00:32:56,900
What he admits to doing is
providing the shotgun
608
00:32:56,934 --> 00:32:58,200
and letting Chacey decide.
609
00:32:58,233 --> 00:33:00,700
If she wants to do something,
she can do it on her own.
610
00:33:00,734 --> 00:33:02,467
So, according to him,
611
00:33:02,500 --> 00:33:04,467
he let's Chacey meet
her husband
612
00:33:04,500 --> 00:33:06,600
on this dark county road
by herself.
613
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,734
Michael Garza claimed that
after he got out of the Jeep,
614
00:33:11,767 --> 00:33:14,033
he went over
to his mother's property,
615
00:33:14,066 --> 00:33:16,634
and decided he would
go see his mom.
616
00:33:16,667 --> 00:33:19,934
And then they have
a sick cow named Oreo.
617
00:33:19,967 --> 00:33:23,200
[St. Amant] He claims
that he was by Oreo's side
618
00:33:23,233 --> 00:33:25,166
when Bob Poynter was shot.
619
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,200
So, his alibi
for Bob Poynter's murder is
620
00:33:28,233 --> 00:33:31,433
actually that he's taking care
of a sick cow,
621
00:33:31,467 --> 00:33:32,867
out in the fields.
622
00:33:33,934 --> 00:33:35,967
I almost fell
out of the chair.
623
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,000
I didn't wanna
lose my composure,
624
00:33:38,033 --> 00:33:39,100
you don't wanna do that
as a prosecutor,
625
00:33:39,133 --> 00:33:41,734
but that was one
of the most laughable moments
626
00:33:41,767 --> 00:33:43,600
I think I've ever had
as a prosecutor.
627
00:33:47,433 --> 00:33:51,033
On July 20th, 2018,
Michael Garza is
628
00:33:51,066 --> 00:33:52,433
convicted of murder
629
00:33:52,467 --> 00:33:55,200
and sentenced
to 99 years in prison.
630
00:33:56,634 --> 00:33:58,634
[Starnes] He had to have been
sitting there thinking,
631
00:33:58,667 --> 00:34:00,166
"Man, how dumb am I?
632
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,200
How did I fall? How did I...
she... get me into this?"
633
00:34:05,367 --> 00:34:07,934
I saw him on the stand
634
00:34:07,967 --> 00:34:11,533
and I realized
that he was just a puppet
635
00:34:11,567 --> 00:34:13,066
and he didn't even know it.
636
00:34:15,934 --> 00:34:17,533
[Kaiser] Authorities think
Chacey helped
637
00:34:17,567 --> 00:34:20,300
to plan the murder
at the very least.
638
00:34:20,333 --> 00:34:23,934
But do they have enough proof
to convince a jury?
639
00:34:23,967 --> 00:34:26,900
Prosecutors believe that
there's more to the story.
640
00:34:26,934 --> 00:34:30,200
As they sift through
the thousands of text messages
641
00:34:30,233 --> 00:34:31,300
on Chacey's phone,
642
00:34:31,333 --> 00:34:33,600
they discover
that Michael Garza was
643
00:34:33,634 --> 00:34:37,066
not the only man she was
trying to seduce and convince
644
00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:38,400
to kill her husband.
645
00:34:48,266 --> 00:34:49,867
[Burk] Based
on the investigation,
646
00:34:49,900 --> 00:34:51,500
you know, the interrogation
with Chacey,
647
00:34:51,533 --> 00:34:54,033
we knew that she was
definitely involved.
648
00:34:54,066 --> 00:34:58,133
In June 2019, the trial
of Chacey Poynter begins.
649
00:34:59,133 --> 00:35:01,867
[Grogan] Chacey Poynter's
defense at trial,
650
00:35:01,900 --> 00:35:03,567
she tried to stick
to the original story,
651
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,500
the narrative that she gave
Detective Burk
652
00:35:05,533 --> 00:35:09,600
two years earlier
in that interview room in Royse City, which is,
653
00:35:09,634 --> 00:35:12,033
she didn't know this was
gonna happen, she never wanted
654
00:35:12,066 --> 00:35:14,634
her husband harmed
or murdered,
655
00:35:14,667 --> 00:35:17,000
and that Michael Garza
ultimately decided
656
00:35:17,033 --> 00:35:18,333
to do this on his own.
657
00:35:26,634 --> 00:35:28,367
For her to sit there
and say that she just wanted
658
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,700
Garza to scare Bob.
659
00:35:30,734 --> 00:35:34,900
I mean, the guy is
6'4, 260-280,
660
00:35:34,934 --> 00:35:37,367
he runs into burning buildings
for a living.
661
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,433
You're not gonna
scare that man.
662
00:35:39,467 --> 00:35:42,834
[Kaiser] Clearly, Chacey knew
that Garza would kill Bob.
663
00:35:42,867 --> 00:35:44,367
Because she put him up to it.
664
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,166
And police have discovered,
665
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,166
he wasn't the only one
666
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,300
she tried to groom
for the job.
667
00:35:53,033 --> 00:35:54,400
[St. Amant]
Chacey Poynter claimed
668
00:35:54,433 --> 00:35:55,700
that the murder of her husband
669
00:35:55,734 --> 00:35:58,033
had been planned
by Michael Garza.
670
00:35:58,066 --> 00:36:00,266
But her text messages show
671
00:36:00,300 --> 00:36:03,367
that Chacey was
having multiple affairs
672
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,467
with men all over
the Dallas area.
673
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,433
[Burk] In several
text messages
674
00:36:09,467 --> 00:36:10,834
to several different men,
675
00:36:10,867 --> 00:36:13,433
it's almost like she's
testing the waters.
676
00:36:13,467 --> 00:36:16,033
She would make comments
that she needs him gone now.
677
00:36:16,066 --> 00:36:18,500
And that she just needs
Robert to die in a fire
678
00:36:18,533 --> 00:36:22,166
so that she could, you know,
have his financial backing
679
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:23,600
to continue her life.
680
00:36:23,634 --> 00:36:25,567
And whenever
she would push the issue
681
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,967
about somebody helping her
or doing something,
682
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,066
majority of the men would
always respond
683
00:36:31,100 --> 00:36:32,834
with "Well, there's
nothing I can do."
684
00:36:33,967 --> 00:36:37,266
All of them except for one
wouldn't take the bait.
685
00:36:37,300 --> 00:36:39,567
To their credit. They saw
686
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,033
that this is beyond what
they were willing to get into.
687
00:36:42,634 --> 00:36:45,200
Except for one. Michael Garza.
688
00:36:47,100 --> 00:36:50,634
Chacey claimed that she was
in an abusive relationship.
689
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,033
When we looked into that,
690
00:36:53,066 --> 00:36:55,066
we couldn't find
any evidence of it.
691
00:36:55,100 --> 00:36:57,467
No 911 calls
of domestic violence,
692
00:36:57,500 --> 00:36:59,800
no offense reports,
no medical records,
693
00:36:59,834 --> 00:37:03,967
nothing to corroborate
that Robert Poynter was
694
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,166
a abusive-type person.
695
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,500
[Starnes] 'Cause it's
the farthest thing from the truth.
696
00:37:08,533 --> 00:37:10,433
All the lies
about him hitting her
697
00:37:10,467 --> 00:37:12,734
and being
physically abusive and...
698
00:37:12,767 --> 00:37:16,133
and, you know...
I mean... hey.
699
00:37:16,166 --> 00:37:18,400
You could go back
and look at all her damn Facebook pictures.
700
00:37:18,433 --> 00:37:21,934
She's wearing
like the smallest shirt she could possibly wear,
701
00:37:22,533 --> 00:37:23,967
and cut-off shorts
702
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,367
and there's not a mark
or bruise anywhere on her.
703
00:37:27,100 --> 00:37:30,367
They even contacted
his ex-wife Amy
704
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,000
and she had
no claims of abuse.
705
00:37:34,033 --> 00:37:37,400
It appears that
Chacey fabricated
706
00:37:37,433 --> 00:37:39,834
this story in whole cloth.
707
00:37:40,867 --> 00:37:44,233
So, Bob Poynter was never
abusive towards Chacey.
708
00:37:44,266 --> 00:37:48,800
She concocted that lie,
and smeared his good name.
709
00:37:48,834 --> 00:37:51,266
All to convince one
of the men she was seeing
710
00:37:51,300 --> 00:37:52,467
to feel sorry for her,
711
00:37:52,500 --> 00:37:55,333
in hopes
that he would kill Bob.
712
00:37:55,367 --> 00:37:58,967
It was all a cunning act
of manipulation.
713
00:38:05,900 --> 00:38:07,467
[Burk] Everybody wants
to know the why.
714
00:38:07,500 --> 00:38:10,634
Everything pointed
to one thing and that was money.
715
00:38:10,667 --> 00:38:12,867
[St. Amant] Bob had already
been through one divorce.
716
00:38:12,900 --> 00:38:16,300
And so, when he went into
his marriage with Chacey,
717
00:38:16,333 --> 00:38:18,934
he had her sign
a pre-nuptial agreement.
718
00:38:18,967 --> 00:38:21,133
So, a lot
of his assets were protected.
719
00:38:21,166 --> 00:38:25,200
But one that wasn't was
his life insurance policy.
720
00:38:25,233 --> 00:38:27,700
Chacey was
the sole beneficiary
721
00:38:27,734 --> 00:38:32,033
on a nearly $700,000
life insurance policy.
722
00:38:33,033 --> 00:38:35,066
He knew she wasn't
gonna get anything
723
00:38:35,100 --> 00:38:37,734
because of the prenup
they had signed and so,
724
00:38:37,767 --> 00:38:40,900
that was his way
of just trying to keep the peace with her,
725
00:38:40,934 --> 00:38:42,967
that she's
on the life insurance policy,
726
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,367
"In case something happens
to me at the firehouse."
727
00:38:46,367 --> 00:38:48,367
[St. Amant] It appears
that she saw
728
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:49,967
the only way out
of the marriage was
729
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,767
to go out
with financial benefit.
730
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,166
And so, that brought up
731
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,867
the idea of murder.
732
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,800
Unfortunately for
Michael Garza,
733
00:39:04,834 --> 00:39:08,400
he was used totally as a pawn
in this murder scheme.
734
00:39:08,433 --> 00:39:12,066
He really had nothing to gain
by killing Bob Poynter,
735
00:39:12,100 --> 00:39:15,100
but Chacey was able
to manipulate him
736
00:39:15,133 --> 00:39:16,700
and convince him
737
00:39:16,734 --> 00:39:20,100
that he needed to do this
to protect her honor.
738
00:39:20,133 --> 00:39:22,100
She found somebody
who was gullible enough
739
00:39:22,133 --> 00:39:23,233
to believe her stories
740
00:39:23,266 --> 00:39:27,900
and somebody dumb enough
to follow through with it.
741
00:39:27,934 --> 00:39:30,266
[Kaiser] Chacey used the lie
that she was being abused
742
00:39:30,300 --> 00:39:32,300
to trick Garza
into killing for her.
743
00:39:32,333 --> 00:39:34,934
So in the end,
she took two lives.
744
00:39:34,967 --> 00:39:39,300
Her husband Robert Poynter's
and Michael Garza's.
745
00:39:39,333 --> 00:39:42,033
All to get
Bob's life insurance.
746
00:39:46,300 --> 00:39:47,634
[Grogan] The jury,
after deliberating
747
00:39:47,667 --> 00:39:49,100
for several hours,
748
00:39:49,133 --> 00:39:52,700
ultimately found
Chacey Poynter guilty of murder.
749
00:39:52,734 --> 00:39:55,066
It was 11-1
for capital murder.
750
00:39:55,100 --> 00:39:57,300
We had one "not guilty"
on capital murder.
751
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,066
The jury sentenced her to life
752
00:40:00,100 --> 00:40:03,200
with a chance
of parole in 30 years.
753
00:40:03,233 --> 00:40:05,533
[Grogan] Despite
what she tried to say,
754
00:40:05,567 --> 00:40:07,467
all the other evidence
indicated that
755
00:40:07,500 --> 00:40:10,133
Robert Poynter really was
the gentle giant
756
00:40:10,166 --> 00:40:11,567
that everybody else
described him as,
757
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,500
and Chacey Poynter really was
758
00:40:13,533 --> 00:40:14,934
the cold-hearted,
manipulative,
759
00:40:14,967 --> 00:40:16,767
evil person that she is.
760
00:40:21,900 --> 00:40:24,266
[Starnes] It's
kinda bittersweet.
761
00:40:24,300 --> 00:40:27,333
Like, inside, I was
ecstatic, you know,
762
00:40:28,066 --> 00:40:29,300
that she was going away,
763
00:40:29,333 --> 00:40:32,200
but at the same time,
it was kinda like...
764
00:40:33,333 --> 00:40:34,567
I don't know.
It was kinda like
765
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,433
the final chapter, you know?
766
00:40:36,467 --> 00:40:39,100
Sort of a realization
that Bob is...
767
00:40:40,333 --> 00:40:41,667
never coming back.
768
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,467
[McAdams] Bob was a good man.
769
00:40:45,500 --> 00:40:49,900
He was the epitome
of what a firefighter was.
770
00:40:49,934 --> 00:40:52,900
And he would gladly
771
00:40:53,567 --> 00:40:57,700
give his life for you.
772
00:40:58,333 --> 00:40:59,800
He was my friend.
773
00:41:06,834 --> 00:41:08,800
[voice shaking] And I...
I miss that dude.
774
00:41:08,834 --> 00:41:10,634
I miss that guy every day.
775
00:41:20,500 --> 00:41:23,467
MAN: She was light.
She was sexual.
776
00:41:23,500 --> 00:41:27,867
WOMAN: He was capable
of awful and dark things.
777
00:41:27,900 --> 00:41:30,934
He's evil.
He's a monster.
778
00:41:30,967 --> 00:41:34,533
And he could charm a nun
out of her habit.
779
00:41:34,567 --> 00:41:37,900
That's when all hell
breaks loose.
780
00:41:38,767 --> 00:41:41,567
Once they met fireworks are
going to fly.
781
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:46,200
It was like Romeo and Juliet.
I'll do anything for you.
782
00:41:47,533 --> 00:41:48,567
From the outside looking in
783
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,300
you would not know there was
any trouble.
784
00:41:52,767 --> 00:41:55,734
Everyone has a breaking point.
Every one of us.
785
00:41:57,233 --> 00:41:59,367
MAN: She knew that Brian would
do anything for her.
786
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:05,533
She was willing to use her body
to manipulate men.
787
00:42:05,567 --> 00:42:08,433
WOMAN: The two most common
motives for murder
788
00:42:08,467 --> 00:42:10,934
are money and love.
789
00:42:10,967 --> 00:42:14,467
And seduction can be
overpowering.
790
00:42:14,500 --> 00:42:15,967
[gun shot]
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