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Where's my "Action"?
I want an "Action."
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OMAR: And, action!
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-(FOIL RUSTLING)
-(DRUMS PLAYING)
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(UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING)
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This one's green.
What's going on with this?
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OMAR: Meet
the Burger Baron superfans.
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I invited them here
to help me understand
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their obsession
with the curious,
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little fast-food chain
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in the heartland
of Alberta, Canada.
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Is this what you always order?
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It's all my favorite things
from Burger Baron.
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The Mushroom Burger
with what I assume
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is Campbell's mushroom soup.
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I really love the onion rings.
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Love the sauce.
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Nice, fat, crispy fries.
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We just need to be quiet
for a minute.
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OMAR: Quiet on set.
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Lock it down.
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I'm eating over here.
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Could you describe Burger Baron
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to someone
who's never heard of it
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or been there before?
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The broken down,
dirtiest... (LAUGHING)
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I can't say that, but it's true.
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You roll into town and you look
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for the dirtiest place
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that has a beacon
of hope shining on it
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with a weird little man.
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Go eat that burger.
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OMAR: The man on your shirt?
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That's right, the dirty
little man on my shirt.
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What I've noticed
about Burger Barons
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is that sometimes,
they look a bit tatty.
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They need a coat of paint.
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But they can still put out
that darn good Mushroom Burger.
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It's like a classic
diner burger,
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but all of them are gonna be
a little bit different
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because of the way
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they've all drifted apart
from each other.
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The best part about
Burger Baron is the people.
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They've always been very polite,
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friendly, enthusiastic,
and willing to go the extra bit.
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OMAR: That looks pretty good.
Can I have a bite of that?
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-Absolutely. Sure.
-Yeah?
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Sorry, guys.
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We can do this.
We're bubbled up.
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This is my dad.
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-Childcare.
-Yep.
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OMAR: Actually,
that's my father-in-law.
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This is my dad.
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That's my mom.
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And this is the grand opening
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of the Burger Baron
in High Prairie.
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Our Burger Baron.
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(MAN SPEAKING)
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(APPLAUDING)
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The restaurant changed
our lives forever.
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It moved us up
from the working class
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to the middle class,
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and made it possible
for my parents to live out
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the immigrant dream in Canada.
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That's me in the middle.
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As you can tell,
I really loved the food.
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It wasn't until I got older
that I realized
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my parents weren't
the only Barons on the Prairies.
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There were dozens of them
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spread around
small town Alberta.
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And other than that one
Mushroom Burger everyone loved,
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they didn't seem to have
anything in common.
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Except for one thing.
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All of them, every single one,
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was owned by Lebanese
immigrants like my parents.
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(RHYTHMIC MUSIC PLAYING)
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ROCKY: The minute you say
you have a Burger Baron,
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the first thing anybody
will ask, "Are you Lebanese?"
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Nobody really knows
who the owner is.
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The Lebanese people came,
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took it, and made it
the company that it is.
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Is it cultural appropriation?
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I don't know.
It doesn't say Burger Sheikh,
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-so...
-(LAUGHING)
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(MUSIC CONTINUES)
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OMAR: It's one
of the most recognizable
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and beloved brands
in the Prairie Province
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of Alberta,
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with over 25 completely
independent locations
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spreading from north to south,
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and one in BC.
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"The Burger Baron restaurants
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"that were and are landmarks
across the prairies."
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Alberta is known
for ranching, rednecks,
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jacked-up pickup trucks,
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but then there's all
these Burger Baron stores
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that are run
by Lebanese families.
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There was people, I'm sure,
that thought maybe
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we were doing something illegal.
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It's almost like
the burger mafia.
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OMAR: Their penchants
for big houses and nice cars
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might make the barons
look like mafioso,
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but if there's one thing
this mob isn't,
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it's organized.
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There is no actual system.
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Everybody's kind of doing
their own thing
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with Burger Baron.
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OMAR: Which might explain
how it became more of a meme
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than franchise.
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So what's going on here?
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How did a loose network
of Arab immigrants
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become a cabal
of burger impresarios?
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It's a territorial business.
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My Burger Baron's better
than his Burger Baron.
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My dad is Burger Baron.
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OMAR: Your dad is Burger Baron?
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-No, my dad is Burger Baron.
-No, my dad.
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My dad was Burger Baron
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before your dad
was Burger Baron.
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(MUSIC CONTINUES)
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OMAR: It was once
an international brand
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with more than 100 locations
in its history
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spread across 11 provinces
in the States.
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And there was even one
in Lebanon.
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But the Burger Baron's heyday
is no more.
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Even before the pandemic turned
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the restaurant business
upside down,
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Burger Barons were closing
at a steady clip.
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They need somebody
to take over the business
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who is enthusiastic about it.
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This Burger Baron
will not be passed down to me.
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-I can guarantee you that.
-(LAUGHS)
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Or my brother.
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I am sure they will die off.
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Twenty years from now,
maybe we'll have one left.
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(MUSIC CONTINUES)
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OMAR: With the rise
of big-box chains
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and foodie culture,
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and a second generation
chasing their own dreams,
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is there really a future
for the Burger Baron?
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-(SWITCHES CLICKING)
-(EQUIPMENT HUMMING)
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OMAR: Kelly Saab interview,
take one.
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(MUSICAL TONE SOUNDING)
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So you're gonna be looking at...
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Looking at me.
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There we go, man.
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OMAR: Kelly Saab interview,
take two.
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I'm the owner
of the Burger Baron
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in Rocky Mountain House.
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I got this business around 2015.
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We went through a rough road
due to the economy,
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-recession, neglection.
-CUSTOMER: Thank you.
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And it wasn't in great shape
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so I had to work it out
all the way from scratch.
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I graduated in Beirut
in hospitality management,
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and I worked
in different places down there,
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but this business needs
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sort of a stability
in the country.
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(LOUD SHOT BANGING)
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When the war started,
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we were just in the middle
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of the peak time
of the night at the nightclub.
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REPORTER: After years of calm,
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Israel assaulted
the Lebanese capital
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with air missiles in retaliation
for a guerrilla attack
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that killed
eight Jewish soldiers.
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KELLY: Everything was just gone
in seconds.
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One of my cousins
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knows some people
that live in Edmonton,
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and they have a couple
of successful restaurants
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and they were hiring people
from overseas.
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They got my number
and then they contacted me,
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and we did
all the paperwork needed,
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and I got approved.
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(SPEAKING ARABIC)
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OMAR: Little did Kelly know
he'd been invited
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to learn the trade secrets
of the Lebanese burger mafia.
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It was basically destiny
that one day
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he would have
his own Burger Baron.
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Why do you think
it's Lebanese dominated?
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It was owned by maybe two,
three brothers
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and some cousins
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or friends opening their own
in different towns.
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And that's how
it's turned to be all Lebanese.
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OMAR: Kelly's not wrong.
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It did start with two
or three brothers,
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and some cousins,
or some friends.
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And they were immigrants,
just not Lebanese.
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They were Americans.
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Irish-Americans,
named the McDonnells.
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That's McDonnell.
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TERRY: My name
is Terry McDonnell.
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I'm the son of Jack McDonnell
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who started the Burger Baron
in Canada.
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I've heard different stories
about "They've started it."
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It infuriates me.
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It's just not true.
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It's not even close to it.
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It's just an out-and-out lie,
and I don't like it.
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That's not the case.
My dad started that. Period.
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He had a lot
of different businesses
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over the years.
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When I was very little,
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the family went up to Alaska,
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and he was building homes
for the government.
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He had a lumber yard
in Great Falls.
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He was always on a new idea.
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There was a place
in Great Falls, Montana,
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called the Burger Master.
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It was my dad's inspiration.
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And he went
and talked to them about it.
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He said, "I want to do
something in Canada.
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"Would you guys show me
how to do this?"
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He spent a couple
of weeks with them
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and just learning the ropes,
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and then decided
to move from there to Calgary.
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JUDY: The fast food era
goes back a long way.
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It was when the car
became important.
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Not just one car
in the family, either,
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but two cars, more cars.
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That's what drove
the fast food era.
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It was easy.
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It was relatively inexpensive
to get burgers for everybody,
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and everybody could find
what they wanted.
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I mean, find me a child
that doesn't like French fries.
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We all love French fries.
And burgers.
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OMAR: By 1957,
a new McDonald's was opening
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every two weeks in America,
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more than tripling
from just the previous year.
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On track to have
100 golden arches up
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by the end of the decade,
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Jack saw an opportunity
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to build the McDonald's
of the north.
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There weren't a lot
of fast foods up there, then.
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When he first built
the Burger Baron in Calgary,
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the first one,
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he went to a sign company
and said, "I've got this place,
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"the Burger Baron,
and I'm gonna need signs."
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And the guy said,
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"Well, do want me
to design one for you?"
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And Dad said,
"Yeah, by all means."
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So he then drew up the Baron,
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the little fat guy, colorful,
smiley-faced Baron,
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and stuck with it.
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OMAR: Jack was so confident
that he had the next McDonald's
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that he simultaneously
built a second location
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200 kilometers away
in Lethbridge
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and brought his brother Mandy
up from Montana to run it.
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They opened them
on the same day.
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TERRY: They had a five
or six-speaker system.
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(WOMAN OVER PA SYSTEM)
May I take your order?
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And then, past that,
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was another six
or seven capacity
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in the lineup for cars.
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It would have been two
or three-blocks-long, at least,
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until they closed at midnight.
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It was neat to know
259
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that this was happening
to our family,
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this, uh, big success.
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OMAR: Jack invited
more relatives up
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to run his burger joints.
263
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And when he ran out
of family members
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to go into business with him,
265
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he took his next big step.
266
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TERRY: The financial statements
were so strong,
267
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it was just easy
to sell franchises.
268
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In the '50s and '60s,
it really was.
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Everybody knew the Burger Baron.
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-(STADIUM NOISES)
-OMAR: It was a phenomenon
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with its own championship
baseball team,
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race team,
beauty pageant contestant
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-and quite possibly...
-(WHISTLE)
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...the world's biggest burger
on order.
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TERRY: The sauce,
that was one of the secrets.
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He didn't give it out
to anybody,
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not even the franchisees.
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They would supply
each of the restaurants
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with the Baron sauce,
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and so the recipe
wasn't on the can.
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OMAR: With McDonald's
still a decade away
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from opening in Canada,
283
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Burger Baron might have been
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the fastest-growing
restaurant chain in the country.
285
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In just over three years,
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it grew to have 30 locations
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in six provinces and two states.
288
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But not everyone wanted
a Burger Baron
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in their backyard.
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MAN 1: We'd hang around there
291
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and see if we could meet ladies,
292
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or there'd likely to be a fight
293
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or something
you could watch or get in, so...
294
00:13:06,954 --> 00:13:09,122
We had an opportunity
to meet The Who
295
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when they were on a tour.
296
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And we wound up taking
Keith Moon
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and the road manager of The Who
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out to the Burger Baron.
299
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We were kind of
long-haired hippies
300
00:13:18,966 --> 00:13:20,167
and these two carloads
301
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of what we called "Grease-balls"
came in,
302
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and for some reason,
Keith Moon wanted
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to go pick a fight
304
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with these two
(LAUGHING) carloads
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full of these local guys.
306
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"This is not a good idea."
(LAUGHING)
307
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Maybe in England,
308
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but if we try that,
we're gonna get stomped out.
309
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(LAUGHS)
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OMAR: Whether it was litter
or toxic masculinity,
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people were quick to forget
about all that riff-raff
312
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once they had a taste
of Jack McDonnell's
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secret Mushroom Burger
and sauce.
314
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The company introduced it
on Valentine's Day, 1961,
315
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and it was love at first sight.
316
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JUDY: The first time I wrote
about Burger Baron,
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I had been given an assignment
318
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to go out and gather up
three or five burgers,
319
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bring them back to the Journal,
320
00:14:04,277 --> 00:14:06,313
and we would test them
for quality.
321
00:14:06,346 --> 00:14:08,415
So off I went
in my little Ford Pinto.
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I would have had
maybe a McDonald's burger,
323
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likely an A&W,
324
00:14:11,818 --> 00:14:14,287
and I needed one more.
325
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So, whatever burger joint
I drive past, that's it.
326
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It happened to be
a Burger Baron.
327
00:14:20,527 --> 00:14:23,931
And I sailed in
and ordered the Mushroom Burger,
328
00:14:23,931 --> 00:14:26,099
and the Mushroom Burger
won, hands down.
329
00:14:26,133 --> 00:14:29,336
I have to say, it was the sauce.
330
00:14:29,369 --> 00:14:32,339
That mushroom sauce
is important.
331
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It's iconic.
332
00:14:34,674 --> 00:14:36,743
First time I tasted
that mushroom sauce,
333
00:14:36,776 --> 00:14:38,811
I was eight years old again,
334
00:14:38,845 --> 00:14:40,313
back in my mom's kitchen,
335
00:14:40,347 --> 00:14:43,183
and I can see her opening
that can of mushroom soup.
336
00:14:54,861 --> 00:14:56,796
I'm mad for these
Mushroom Burgers.
337
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TERRY: My father made mistakes,
338
00:15:05,638 --> 00:15:07,674
and some were big ones.
339
00:15:07,707 --> 00:15:10,210
Number one, moving way too fast.
340
00:15:10,243 --> 00:15:12,412
Number two, training staff.
341
00:15:12,445 --> 00:15:16,349
He didn't train
the new franchisees well enough,
342
00:15:16,383 --> 00:15:18,685
and the franchisees
343
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didn't train their staff
well enough.
344
00:15:21,554 --> 00:15:24,024
And that was a big problem.
345
00:15:24,057 --> 00:15:27,794
There is a company
that we call a franchisor.
346
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So they're the ones
who have the secret processes
347
00:15:31,298 --> 00:15:33,466
or the trademark
or what have you.
348
00:15:33,500 --> 00:15:38,205
And they sell the rights
to use those to a franchisee.
349
00:15:38,238 --> 00:15:41,141
And the franchisee
then gets to use
350
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the secret processes.
351
00:15:42,509 --> 00:15:45,545
Maybe it's the secret
Mushroom Burger recipe,
352
00:15:45,578 --> 00:15:47,314
they get to use the logo.
353
00:15:47,347 --> 00:15:48,548
And in exchange for that,
354
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they have to pay
either a regular fee
355
00:15:51,818 --> 00:15:54,321
or usually part of their profits
to the franchisor.
356
00:15:54,354 --> 00:15:57,224
And they also have to maintain
certain standards.
357
00:15:57,257 --> 00:15:59,292
The restaurants
weren't run properly.
358
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The franchisees
would add menu items.
359
00:16:02,529 --> 00:16:06,899
Then you get a lot of menu items
and then the speed goes down.
360
00:16:06,933 --> 00:16:08,635
Quality isn't the same.
361
00:16:08,668 --> 00:16:10,837
OMAR: Jack had lost focus
on the two things
362
00:16:10,870 --> 00:16:12,839
that made it
an immediate success.
363
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Good food and fast service.
364
00:16:15,275 --> 00:16:17,744
He invested all his energy
into the brand,
365
00:16:17,777 --> 00:16:20,513
co-signing on expansions
in major cities
366
00:16:20,547 --> 00:16:23,650
with franchisees who couldn't
afford it on their own.
367
00:16:23,683 --> 00:16:25,918
All because he wanted
to beat the other big chains
368
00:16:25,952 --> 00:16:27,254
to the punch.
369
00:16:27,287 --> 00:16:29,889
Betting on making Burger Baron
a household name,
370
00:16:29,922 --> 00:16:33,360
Jack put his last chips
on two Montreal locations.
371
00:16:33,393 --> 00:16:34,594
And when they went down,
372
00:16:34,627 --> 00:16:36,863
Jack was on the hook
with creditors.
373
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ANNA: The Burger Baron companies
374
00:16:38,865 --> 00:16:41,234
had gone through
a bankruptcy process
375
00:16:41,268 --> 00:16:43,370
and voluntary liquidation
under the Companies Act.
376
00:16:43,403 --> 00:16:46,773
TERRY: I don't remember
any legal matters.
377
00:16:46,806 --> 00:16:48,575
When they divorced,
378
00:16:48,608 --> 00:16:51,678
Mom and my sister and I
moved to Lethbridge.
379
00:16:51,711 --> 00:16:54,381
So, I assume that's when
it was all starting.
380
00:16:54,414 --> 00:16:57,250
Maybe he was embarrassed
or ashamed.
381
00:16:57,284 --> 00:16:59,752
You know, everything
was falling down.
382
00:16:59,786 --> 00:17:03,590
With the franchise,
it had intellectual properties
383
00:17:03,623 --> 00:17:05,692
such as the little Baron.
384
00:17:05,725 --> 00:17:07,760
And the name, of course.
385
00:17:07,794 --> 00:17:10,430
Those are
intellectual properties
386
00:17:10,463 --> 00:17:11,798
that you protect.
387
00:17:11,831 --> 00:17:13,933
And without protecting it,
388
00:17:13,966 --> 00:17:15,835
people are gonna try and use it.
389
00:17:15,868 --> 00:17:19,806
You have to sue to enforce
intellectual property.
390
00:17:19,839 --> 00:17:23,110
But if the company
that has the right to sue
391
00:17:23,110 --> 00:17:25,778
for trademark infringement,
no longer exists,
392
00:17:25,812 --> 00:17:28,448
and that IP
hasn't been transferred
393
00:17:28,481 --> 00:17:30,183
to some other entity,
394
00:17:30,217 --> 00:17:32,119
then you're in a situation
395
00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,021
where everybody can use that IP,
396
00:17:35,122 --> 00:17:37,790
and there's nobody
who is going to be enforcing
397
00:17:37,824 --> 00:17:41,194
their right to exclusive use
of that logo or that name.
398
00:17:41,228 --> 00:17:42,562
In fact, at that point,
399
00:17:42,595 --> 00:17:47,167
Dad gave all of them
the recipe to the sauce,
400
00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:51,871
and he didn't charge 'em
any franchise fees anymore.
401
00:17:52,539 --> 00:17:54,040
Without that recipe,
402
00:17:54,141 --> 00:17:56,543
they'd all've been
in a lot of trouble.
403
00:17:56,576 --> 00:17:58,578
OMAR: By finally sharing
his secret processes
404
00:17:58,611 --> 00:18:00,147
with the other Barons,
405
00:18:00,147 --> 00:18:03,150
he'd given them legal permission
to keep the brand alive.
406
00:18:03,816 --> 00:18:05,452
But in the mid '60s,
407
00:18:05,485 --> 00:18:07,487
as McDonald's,
Burger King and Wendy's
408
00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,989
prepared aggressive
expansions into Canada,
409
00:18:10,022 --> 00:18:11,324
the writing was on the wall.
410
00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:13,826
The chain couldn't survive
411
00:18:13,860 --> 00:18:16,963
without someone who cared
about it as much as Jack.
412
00:18:16,996 --> 00:18:18,965
It needed a white knight
in shining armor,
413
00:18:18,998 --> 00:18:20,867
but it got
a brown knight instead.
414
00:18:23,536 --> 00:18:25,438
(RUDY SPEAKING)
415
00:18:44,391 --> 00:18:46,526
FILM NARRATOR: Six thousand
feet above sea level,
416
00:18:46,559 --> 00:18:48,195
in the land of Lebanon,
417
00:18:48,195 --> 00:18:50,597
stand the world-famous
cedar trees,
418
00:18:50,630 --> 00:18:52,199
the emblem of the country
419
00:18:52,199 --> 00:18:53,833
and one of its
most precious relics.
420
00:18:54,901 --> 00:18:56,203
(RUDY SPEAKING)
421
00:19:28,968 --> 00:19:31,871
OMAR: The Middle East's Paris
was starting to unravel
422
00:19:31,904 --> 00:19:34,474
as the country struggled
with influxes of refugees
423
00:19:34,507 --> 00:19:36,809
and rebel factions.
424
00:19:36,843 --> 00:19:38,245
Rudy and his younger brother Sal
425
00:19:38,245 --> 00:19:40,413
wanted out
before things worsened.
426
00:19:40,447 --> 00:19:42,982
But most of all,
they just wanted to go
427
00:19:43,015 --> 00:19:44,251
to the Western Promised Land.
428
00:19:45,952 --> 00:19:47,254
SAL: I thought the West
429
00:19:47,254 --> 00:19:50,323
is the exact
perfection of humanity.
430
00:19:50,357 --> 00:19:52,725
This is how strong Hollywood is.
431
00:19:52,759 --> 00:19:55,262
OMAR: The brothers'
only connection to North America
432
00:19:55,295 --> 00:19:56,829
was an uncle in Saskatchewan
433
00:19:56,863 --> 00:20:00,267
who'd migrated
decades earlier in the 1920s,
434
00:20:00,300 --> 00:20:02,134
following thousands
of other Lebanese
435
00:20:02,168 --> 00:20:04,003
in the North American prairies,
436
00:20:04,036 --> 00:20:06,939
living as homesteaders,
fur traders
437
00:20:06,973 --> 00:20:08,675
and, most of all, peddlers.
438
00:20:08,708 --> 00:20:13,012
They had small carts
drawn by horses.
439
00:20:13,045 --> 00:20:15,415
They were selling
different kinds
440
00:20:15,448 --> 00:20:17,817
of grains, cloth
441
00:20:17,850 --> 00:20:20,620
and trinkets of all kinds.
442
00:20:20,653 --> 00:20:24,391
That Levantine ethic
emphasizes independence.
443
00:20:26,058 --> 00:20:31,798
It's an ethic that emphasizes
capitalistic enterprise.
444
00:20:31,831 --> 00:20:34,467
They went into business
for themselves.
445
00:20:34,501 --> 00:20:36,436
OMAR: For the Lebanese
prairie peddlers,
446
00:20:36,469 --> 00:20:39,038
the destination
was always the same.
447
00:20:39,071 --> 00:20:41,140
They worked until
they saved enough to open
448
00:20:41,173 --> 00:20:42,241
a permanent business,
449
00:20:42,275 --> 00:20:43,810
and start bringing
family members
450
00:20:43,843 --> 00:20:45,111
out west, from Lebanon,
451
00:20:45,144 --> 00:20:47,213
a process of chain migration
452
00:20:47,246 --> 00:20:49,215
that created
some of North America's
453
00:20:49,248 --> 00:20:51,217
oldest Arab communities today.
454
00:20:51,250 --> 00:20:53,185
One of the things
I found really interesting
455
00:20:53,219 --> 00:20:54,487
about Lebanese people
456
00:20:54,521 --> 00:20:56,356
who've been in the province
over 100 years,
457
00:20:56,389 --> 00:20:57,690
have been integral
458
00:20:57,724 --> 00:21:00,159
to a number
of different communities here.
459
00:21:00,192 --> 00:21:03,596
And it shows
some of the challenges
460
00:21:03,630 --> 00:21:04,864
that not only they,
461
00:21:04,897 --> 00:21:06,966
but other immigrant
communities have faced
462
00:21:06,999 --> 00:21:09,101
in terms of providing
463
00:21:09,135 --> 00:21:10,870
for themselves
financially, right?
464
00:21:10,903 --> 00:21:14,974
I mean, you look at the history
of restaurants on the prairies,
465
00:21:15,007 --> 00:21:18,945
and you see immigrant groups
who have been excluded
466
00:21:18,978 --> 00:21:22,915
from more mainstream routes
to financial success.
467
00:21:22,949 --> 00:21:24,651
Starting with
Chinese restaurants,
468
00:21:24,684 --> 00:21:26,052
Lebanese restaurants.
469
00:21:26,085 --> 00:21:28,421
How many small towns
have little Greek restaurants?
470
00:21:29,121 --> 00:21:30,423
(RUDY SPEAKING)
471
00:21:45,004 --> 00:21:48,375
When I came to Saskatchewan,
and I said to myself,
472
00:21:48,375 --> 00:21:50,009
"What the devil am I doing here?
473
00:21:50,042 --> 00:21:52,512
"There's nothing
like what I saw in the movies."
474
00:21:52,545 --> 00:21:54,981
And it was like you would...
475
00:21:55,014 --> 00:21:57,149
A heavy heart,
like you wouldn't believe.
476
00:21:59,852 --> 00:22:01,588
He worked with my uncle
for a while
477
00:22:01,621 --> 00:22:03,856
and I only stayed there
for about three months.
478
00:22:03,890 --> 00:22:06,025
When I came to Calgary,
I felt better,
479
00:22:06,058 --> 00:22:07,627
but not that much better.
480
00:22:19,972 --> 00:22:21,774
It was the first job in Winnipeg
481
00:22:21,808 --> 00:22:23,943
just as a worker
in a restaurant.
482
00:22:23,976 --> 00:22:25,412
It used to be famous
483
00:22:25,412 --> 00:22:27,780
with the spaghetti
and meatballs.
484
00:22:27,814 --> 00:22:29,048
Two Greek brothers.
485
00:22:29,081 --> 00:22:30,417
That was in Calgary.
486
00:22:30,450 --> 00:22:33,453
I had two partners,
and I was a third partner.
487
00:22:33,486 --> 00:22:35,588
And when I was in Calgary,
488
00:22:35,622 --> 00:22:37,724
there was a manager of Safeway,
489
00:22:37,757 --> 00:22:39,526
and he told me there was
a Burger Baron for sale
490
00:22:39,559 --> 00:22:41,227
in Edmonton.
491
00:22:41,260 --> 00:22:44,296
-So I came right away...
-(OMAR LAUGHS)
492
00:22:44,330 --> 00:22:45,765
OMAR: Really?
RUDY: I didn't hesitate, yeah.
493
00:22:45,798 --> 00:22:46,933
When you were in Calgary,
494
00:22:46,966 --> 00:22:48,267
you must have loved
Burger Baron.
495
00:22:48,300 --> 00:22:49,869
I'd never tried it before.
496
00:22:49,902 --> 00:22:51,804
OMAR: You never tried it
before you bought it?
497
00:22:51,838 --> 00:22:53,072
I heard about it.
498
00:22:53,105 --> 00:22:54,474
-It's a busy place.
-(OMAR LAUGHS)
499
00:22:54,507 --> 00:22:56,008
All I cared about...
500
00:22:57,444 --> 00:23:00,613
He says he was taking
about $100,000 a year.
501
00:23:00,647 --> 00:23:02,549
You didn't need to taste
the product
502
00:23:02,582 --> 00:23:03,983
because the product
was obviously...
503
00:23:04,016 --> 00:23:05,952
No, the business was good,
that's...
504
00:23:05,985 --> 00:23:07,887
OMAR: The money was the product.
505
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:12,725
This is the first Burger Baron
I bought in 1964.
506
00:23:12,759 --> 00:23:16,195
In these days,
I was making $1,000 a day.
507
00:23:16,228 --> 00:23:19,899
When I would put
the Mushroom Burger for sale,
508
00:23:19,932 --> 00:23:23,803
(STAMMERS) it's a line-up
to 75th Street,
509
00:23:23,836 --> 00:23:26,038
from 60th to 75th.
510
00:23:26,072 --> 00:23:28,007
And they got the police
directing traffic.
511
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,476
-You know?
-(OMAR LAUGHS)
512
00:23:29,476 --> 00:23:31,644
Did you have to pay
the police for that?
513
00:23:31,678 --> 00:23:33,079
You just paid them with burgers.
514
00:23:33,112 --> 00:23:35,347
-Just free hamburgers.
-Yeah. Free hamburgers.
515
00:23:35,381 --> 00:23:37,016
OMAR: Rudy initially didn't know
516
00:23:37,049 --> 00:23:38,818
he'd bought into
an orphan franchise
517
00:23:38,851 --> 00:23:40,152
of a company in collapse,
518
00:23:40,186 --> 00:23:41,521
but he couldn't
have been happier
519
00:23:41,554 --> 00:23:43,255
with the realization.
520
00:23:43,289 --> 00:23:46,559
It meant he was free to expand
and do as he wished.
521
00:23:46,593 --> 00:23:47,927
Change the logo,
522
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,497
make up new burgers
pandering to local pride,
523
00:23:50,530 --> 00:23:52,231
or possibly concoct a story
524
00:23:52,264 --> 00:23:55,267
about inventing the chain
two years before Jack McDonnell.
525
00:23:55,301 --> 00:23:57,737
This is...
Is not a Burger Baron.
526
00:23:57,770 --> 00:23:59,105
OMAR: This shouldn't say
Burger Baron?
527
00:23:59,138 --> 00:24:00,406
RUDY: No.
528
00:24:00,507 --> 00:24:01,608
MAN 2: I thought my father
was the inventor
529
00:24:01,641 --> 00:24:04,176
of Burger Baron
until I was 15 or 16.
530
00:24:04,210 --> 00:24:05,812
I realized, well, maybe
531
00:24:05,845 --> 00:24:07,714
there's another side
of the story.
532
00:24:09,015 --> 00:24:10,950
My name is Jamal Kemaldean.
533
00:24:10,983 --> 00:24:14,420
I am the son of Rudy Kemaldean,
534
00:24:14,521 --> 00:24:16,355
AKA The Godfather.
535
00:24:16,388 --> 00:24:18,591
He always wore a three-piece
suit to the restaurant.
536
00:24:18,625 --> 00:24:20,927
And that had a lot to do
537
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,862
with him growing up
from humble beginnings.
538
00:24:22,895 --> 00:24:25,364
He grew up watching
the big movie stars.
539
00:24:25,397 --> 00:24:28,334
Cary Grant
and Dean Martin, the singer.
540
00:24:28,367 --> 00:24:31,203
They always had nice suits,
cigar, wine.
541
00:24:31,237 --> 00:24:32,805
And that explains
why he likes suits,
542
00:24:32,839 --> 00:24:34,974
cigars and wine so much
these days.
543
00:24:36,876 --> 00:24:38,044
And then he always had
the big cars,
544
00:24:38,077 --> 00:24:39,445
the big Cadillacs
545
00:24:39,546 --> 00:24:41,313
with the Continental Kits,
gold-plated trimming
546
00:24:41,347 --> 00:24:42,815
all over the place,
547
00:24:42,849 --> 00:24:45,351
and they called my father
The Godfather growing up.
548
00:24:45,384 --> 00:24:47,119
OMAR: And like a true Godfather,
549
00:24:47,153 --> 00:24:49,221
Rudy worked hard
to recruit the right people
550
00:24:49,255 --> 00:24:50,857
to help run his empire.
551
00:24:50,890 --> 00:24:54,226
RUDY: That's Fauzi.
The tall, skinny one.
552
00:24:54,260 --> 00:24:56,963
FAUZI: I came here in '69
to go to university.
553
00:24:56,996 --> 00:25:00,700
He had to go to Lebanon
for a few months.
554
00:25:00,733 --> 00:25:03,069
He asked me just to do
very little things
555
00:25:03,102 --> 00:25:05,237
like deposit the money,
556
00:25:05,271 --> 00:25:07,940
pay the suppliers and the girls.
557
00:25:07,974 --> 00:25:09,375
So I thought to myself,
558
00:25:09,408 --> 00:25:11,477
"I'll work and save some money
559
00:25:11,578 --> 00:25:14,814
"and get back in university."
560
00:25:14,847 --> 00:25:17,817
That didn't happen
because you get a bug
561
00:25:17,850 --> 00:25:19,919
with this kind of business,
you know. You love it.
562
00:25:23,322 --> 00:25:24,724
OMAR: The Kemaldean empire
563
00:25:24,757 --> 00:25:27,727
got help from Alberta's
newly discovered oil reserves,
564
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,762
and a wave of Canadians
racing west
565
00:25:29,796 --> 00:25:31,998
to cash in
on a middle-class dream.
566
00:25:32,031 --> 00:25:34,500
But another global event
would soon spread that empire
567
00:25:34,601 --> 00:25:36,435
beyond anyone's imagination.
568
00:25:45,778 --> 00:25:47,980
My name's Nazem Kamaleddine.
569
00:25:48,014 --> 00:25:51,350
I came from Lebanon
back in 1976.
570
00:25:51,383 --> 00:25:53,319
It was a civil war.
We had applied
571
00:25:53,352 --> 00:25:56,022
to come to Canada
just before that broke out,
572
00:25:56,055 --> 00:25:59,792
and then it didn't get approved
until after the war started.
573
00:25:59,826 --> 00:26:02,729
It was my family and my cousin
574
00:26:02,762 --> 00:26:06,332
Khaled Kamaleddine's family.
575
00:26:06,365 --> 00:26:08,668
OMAR: Their uncles, Rudy
and Sal had pitched in
576
00:26:08,701 --> 00:26:10,502
to get all
their immediate relatives
577
00:26:10,536 --> 00:26:12,238
to safety in Canada,
578
00:26:12,271 --> 00:26:13,673
six families in all.
579
00:26:13,706 --> 00:26:15,041
But the danger was highest
580
00:26:15,074 --> 00:26:17,443
for young males
like Nazem and Khaled.
581
00:26:17,476 --> 00:26:20,346
Militants representing
the minority Druze faith
582
00:26:20,379 --> 00:26:23,449
were recruiting teenagers
to help fortify Mount Lebanon
583
00:26:23,482 --> 00:26:25,517
against other
religious factions,
584
00:26:25,551 --> 00:26:28,120
turning them against friends
and neighbors.
585
00:26:28,154 --> 00:26:32,291
Lebanon is divided
by religious groups.
586
00:26:32,324 --> 00:26:35,762
The Maronites, the Sunni Muslims
587
00:26:35,795 --> 00:26:38,898
the Shia Muslims, the Druze.
588
00:26:38,931 --> 00:26:45,071
And the political system tries
to appeal to different groups.
589
00:26:45,104 --> 00:26:48,107
They established
an unwritten constitution,
590
00:26:48,140 --> 00:26:50,076
that the President
of the country
591
00:26:50,109 --> 00:26:51,678
will always be a Maronite,
592
00:26:51,678 --> 00:26:54,080
that the Prime Minister
of the country
593
00:26:54,113 --> 00:26:57,216
will always be
a Sunni Muslim, and so on.
594
00:26:57,249 --> 00:27:00,519
So, whenever you have a system
595
00:27:01,721 --> 00:27:04,156
that is based on religion,
596
00:27:04,190 --> 00:27:06,225
some groups may feel aggrieved.
597
00:27:07,727 --> 00:27:09,128
My best of friends,
they were Christian.
598
00:27:09,161 --> 00:27:10,697
My best friends,
they were Muslim.
599
00:27:10,697 --> 00:27:12,832
We lived together in that area,
you know.
600
00:27:12,865 --> 00:27:15,234
And suddenly, each one
had to disappear.
601
00:27:15,267 --> 00:27:18,470
We lose friends from school,
maybe three or four of them.
602
00:27:18,504 --> 00:27:20,339
I was close friends with you
in school.
603
00:27:20,372 --> 00:27:22,842
They just died
in the war, you know.
604
00:27:22,875 --> 00:27:25,878
Your only way out is the water.
605
00:27:25,912 --> 00:27:28,715
So we had to leave
on a boat to Cyprus.
606
00:27:28,715 --> 00:27:31,884
(WAVES SPLASHING)
607
00:27:31,918 --> 00:27:34,153
It was in the evening,
sometimes,
608
00:27:34,186 --> 00:27:37,757
and the boat was supposed
to be 100 people, max.
609
00:27:37,790 --> 00:27:40,893
But there was over 250
on that boat.
610
00:27:42,028 --> 00:27:45,164
I remember sitting on the deck
611
00:27:45,197 --> 00:27:46,598
outside,
612
00:27:46,632 --> 00:27:49,268
and water was coming in
from the sea.
613
00:27:51,037 --> 00:27:53,072
-(COAST GUARD SIREN BUZZING)
-We got stopped
614
00:27:53,105 --> 00:27:54,841
by the Israeli boats.
615
00:27:54,874 --> 00:27:56,542
(COAST GUARD
SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY)
616
00:27:57,777 --> 00:27:59,345
Palestinians were in there,
617
00:27:59,378 --> 00:28:01,948
and they were
just ripping up papers
618
00:28:01,981 --> 00:28:04,416
and throwing them in the sea.
619
00:28:04,450 --> 00:28:06,652
KHALED: After we got
to Cyprus, I said,
620
00:28:06,753 --> 00:28:08,420
"Why are there no bombs here?"
I was young.
621
00:28:08,454 --> 00:28:10,990
I thought to myself
the war was all over the world.
622
00:28:11,023 --> 00:28:12,759
I missed my friends,
I missed my family.
623
00:28:12,759 --> 00:28:15,361
I tried to leave, to go back
to my friends and that,
624
00:28:15,394 --> 00:28:17,163
but somebody, they catch me
and my family
625
00:28:17,196 --> 00:28:18,597
and they got me back.
626
00:28:18,630 --> 00:28:20,032
So they took my passport,
everybody's passport,
627
00:28:20,066 --> 00:28:22,869
and they kept it with them
so you can't go nowhere.
628
00:28:22,902 --> 00:28:24,804
OMAR: More than a dozen
close relatives
629
00:28:24,837 --> 00:28:26,338
awaited them in Cyprus,
630
00:28:26,372 --> 00:28:27,774
along with their uncle Sal,
631
00:28:27,807 --> 00:28:30,042
who was helping prepare
the family's exodus.
632
00:28:30,910 --> 00:28:32,044
But they quickly learned
633
00:28:32,078 --> 00:28:33,312
the sectarian conflict
634
00:28:33,345 --> 00:28:35,314
had followed them
across the sea.
635
00:28:35,347 --> 00:28:37,683
Our visa was in
a Canadian embassy,
636
00:28:37,784 --> 00:28:39,485
and the lady was Lebanese,
637
00:28:39,518 --> 00:28:41,854
the one who takes people
in and out.
638
00:28:41,888 --> 00:28:43,089
Christians? Right away, go.
639
00:28:44,156 --> 00:28:45,457
Druze, Muslims?
640
00:28:45,491 --> 00:28:47,794
You're not refugee,
you have to bribe.
641
00:28:47,827 --> 00:28:50,496
And we said, "We have no money,
how we can go?"
642
00:28:50,529 --> 00:28:54,500
My uncle went to the embassy
and talked to the council.
643
00:28:54,533 --> 00:28:57,569
If it wasn't for him,
we wouldn't be here.
644
00:28:57,603 --> 00:28:59,705
My father and uncle
645
00:28:59,806 --> 00:29:02,274
brought a lot of people
from overseas,
646
00:29:02,308 --> 00:29:04,811
mostly family, maybe 25 people.
647
00:29:04,811 --> 00:29:07,814
They all stayed at our house
648
00:29:07,814 --> 00:29:10,382
and I really remember
enjoying all the action
649
00:29:10,416 --> 00:29:12,618
and all the parties
he'd have there,
650
00:29:12,651 --> 00:29:14,420
sometimes over 100 people.
651
00:29:14,453 --> 00:29:16,488
With every drink of water,
652
00:29:16,522 --> 00:29:19,558
with every bite of food
you'd eat,
653
00:29:19,591 --> 00:29:23,295
it was always on my mind
how to get back.
654
00:29:23,329 --> 00:29:25,664
My heart was there,
655
00:29:25,697 --> 00:29:27,566
and my mind was there,
656
00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:28,901
but my body wasn't.
657
00:29:28,935 --> 00:29:30,602
I didn't go to school here.
658
00:29:30,636 --> 00:29:31,904
We had to work
659
00:29:31,938 --> 00:29:34,941
and support the family,
support the house.
660
00:29:34,974 --> 00:29:37,844
And, of course, Mom and Dad
couldn't speak the language,
661
00:29:37,844 --> 00:29:40,847
so we are the main supporters,
me and my brothers.
662
00:29:40,847 --> 00:29:43,983
I've been with Burger Baron
since I was 13 years old.
663
00:29:44,016 --> 00:29:45,985
And I worked with Uncle Sam,
664
00:29:46,018 --> 00:29:49,956
and my brother
used to work with Uncle Rudy.
665
00:29:49,989 --> 00:29:52,591
And then we finished
from one place,
666
00:29:52,624 --> 00:29:54,426
we'd go to close another place.
667
00:29:54,460 --> 00:29:56,162
Everybody was helping everybody.
668
00:29:56,195 --> 00:29:59,631
Every one of them have
a Burger Baron, you know?
669
00:29:59,665 --> 00:30:00,867
If not him, it will be his son.
670
00:30:00,900 --> 00:30:02,468
Or not his son, his daughter.
671
00:30:02,501 --> 00:30:05,337
The Burger Baron gave
lots of opportunities for us.
672
00:30:05,371 --> 00:30:08,307
OMAR: Rudy's apprenticeship
wasn't just for close relatives.
673
00:30:08,340 --> 00:30:10,276
He gave away
the company's trade secrets
674
00:30:10,309 --> 00:30:11,978
to anyone who asked,
675
00:30:12,011 --> 00:30:14,180
and encouraged them
to do for their families
676
00:30:14,213 --> 00:30:16,448
what the Burger Baron did
for his own.
677
00:30:16,482 --> 00:30:17,549
(JAMIL SPEAKING)
678
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,855
OMAR: It wasn't
just the Burger Baron
679
00:31:29,956 --> 00:31:31,757
that immigrants co-opted.
680
00:31:31,790 --> 00:31:33,692
Based on the Kemaldean success,
681
00:31:33,725 --> 00:31:36,128
a suite of Arab-owned diners
had cropped up
682
00:31:36,162 --> 00:31:38,464
under some crafty names
683
00:31:38,497 --> 00:31:40,832
like Wemby's, Dairy King,
684
00:31:40,866 --> 00:31:44,470
B&W Dairy King, and the Big M.
685
00:31:44,503 --> 00:31:46,372
Though, that one
didn't last long
686
00:31:46,405 --> 00:31:47,974
after the bigger M sued.
687
00:31:47,974 --> 00:31:49,976
All, of course, had their way
688
00:31:50,009 --> 00:31:52,344
with the Mushroom
and Baron Burger recipes.
689
00:32:15,401 --> 00:32:17,269
BAHA: With Burger Baron,
690
00:32:17,303 --> 00:32:20,739
there was a great deal
of prosperity
691
00:32:20,772 --> 00:32:23,075
that occurred in the community
692
00:32:23,109 --> 00:32:27,246
as a result of selling fast food
693
00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:28,814
for people who need it,
694
00:32:28,847 --> 00:32:31,517
and people were needing it
at that time.
695
00:32:33,319 --> 00:32:37,489
My first restaurant,
I opened in Lebanon,
696
00:32:37,523 --> 00:32:39,058
before I came to Canada.
697
00:32:39,091 --> 00:32:42,028
It was in 1981.
698
00:32:42,028 --> 00:32:43,162
It was Lebanese food.
699
00:32:43,195 --> 00:32:46,032
I ran that place
for only one year
700
00:32:46,032 --> 00:32:51,103
because Israel came
to Lebanon in 1982.
701
00:32:51,137 --> 00:32:54,473
There was a war
where my restaurant is,
702
00:32:54,506 --> 00:32:56,042
and lots of damage.
703
00:32:56,042 --> 00:32:58,410
All the bullets and the bombs.
704
00:32:58,444 --> 00:32:59,445
Everything gone.
705
00:33:15,594 --> 00:33:19,831
There was a bomb
in our building,
706
00:33:19,865 --> 00:33:22,234
and we were down
in the basement,
707
00:33:22,268 --> 00:33:24,370
and the bomb comes
in the building and collapsed
708
00:33:24,403 --> 00:33:26,705
on us with our kids.
709
00:33:28,074 --> 00:33:30,209
They were four years
and seven years.
710
00:33:30,242 --> 00:33:31,410
(JIM SPEAKING)
711
00:33:38,117 --> 00:33:39,918
Indirectly, you are
in the fight.
712
00:33:39,951 --> 00:33:42,254
The situation puts you in a spot
713
00:33:42,288 --> 00:33:44,223
that you have no choice.
714
00:33:44,256 --> 00:33:46,925
You play the survivor game.
715
00:33:46,958 --> 00:33:49,395
And that survivor game, sadly,
716
00:33:49,428 --> 00:33:51,297
it's religious in the country.
717
00:33:51,330 --> 00:33:54,766
And the political point of view,
718
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,302
they manipulate it that way,
719
00:33:56,335 --> 00:33:59,305
and they made us as an enemy
against each other.
720
00:33:59,338 --> 00:34:01,107
Against the people
I grew up with.
721
00:34:01,107 --> 00:34:02,608
When you leave the house,
722
00:34:02,641 --> 00:34:04,410
when you say bye
to your mom and dad,
723
00:34:06,011 --> 00:34:07,879
(CLEARS THROAT)
724
00:34:07,913 --> 00:34:09,681
it almost feels
this is the last time
725
00:34:09,715 --> 00:34:10,816
you are saying bye to them.
726
00:34:13,319 --> 00:34:15,221
It is tough. I cannot.
727
00:34:16,822 --> 00:34:18,657
Fuck, you brought me back
a long time.
728
00:34:21,127 --> 00:34:22,828
We were hanging out,
playing cards.
729
00:34:22,861 --> 00:34:24,463
All of a sudden,
730
00:34:24,496 --> 00:34:26,865
one big bomb
came into the window.
731
00:34:26,898 --> 00:34:30,169
Killed two or three people
in the same basement.
732
00:34:30,202 --> 00:34:31,803
(SIRENS WAILING)
733
00:34:31,837 --> 00:34:33,172
When it hit the wall,
734
00:34:33,205 --> 00:34:36,742
the wall, it crashes
and threw out some stones.
735
00:34:36,775 --> 00:34:37,976
It came to my side.
736
00:34:38,009 --> 00:34:39,478
It went underneath my skin.
737
00:34:39,511 --> 00:34:41,012
If it was only
two feet this way,
738
00:34:41,046 --> 00:34:42,848
it could have gone through me.
739
00:34:42,881 --> 00:34:45,884
When we came here,
our target was to go to school.
740
00:34:45,917 --> 00:34:47,653
I was gonna go for dentistry.
741
00:34:47,686 --> 00:34:50,356
I had in mind
to become an engineer.
742
00:34:50,389 --> 00:34:53,024
I couldn't get the marks
to go to university.
743
00:35:01,167 --> 00:35:03,835
Every Lebanese guy we knew
was in the restaurant business,
744
00:35:03,869 --> 00:35:05,571
or we'd go visit them
in their house,
745
00:35:05,604 --> 00:35:06,772
and they'd go to the business,
746
00:35:06,805 --> 00:35:09,308
and then everybody has
a Burger Baron.
747
00:35:09,341 --> 00:35:10,776
And we thought, "Okay."
748
00:35:14,180 --> 00:35:15,647
OMAR: Twenty years
after the company
749
00:35:15,681 --> 00:35:17,649
was bankrupted and orphaned,
750
00:35:17,683 --> 00:35:19,518
the Burger Baron
had made a comeback.
751
00:35:19,551 --> 00:35:21,787
All thanks to this one man.
752
00:35:21,820 --> 00:35:24,790
Rudy never demanded royalties
or kickbacks.
753
00:35:24,823 --> 00:35:28,360
All he asked for in return
was quality control.
754
00:35:28,394 --> 00:35:30,196
That might have been
too much to ask.
755
00:35:31,463 --> 00:35:34,300
I got a uniform to my staff,
756
00:35:34,333 --> 00:35:37,836
a very nice uniform,
complete outfit
757
00:35:37,869 --> 00:35:39,871
and cost me, at that time,
758
00:35:39,905 --> 00:35:42,708
almost $3,000
just for the uniforms.
759
00:35:42,741 --> 00:35:44,710
They put it on
as long as I'm around.
760
00:35:44,743 --> 00:35:47,846
If I leave the place,
they take the uniform off.
761
00:35:49,014 --> 00:35:52,218
Once they see me
driving in the entrance,
762
00:35:52,251 --> 00:35:54,453
they run and put
their uniform on.
763
00:35:54,486 --> 00:35:57,656
The Canadians,
they kept it on, always.
764
00:35:59,325 --> 00:36:00,659
If I'm in there, or not.
765
00:36:00,692 --> 00:36:02,228
So, that's the difference.
766
00:36:02,228 --> 00:36:04,095
OMAR: Do you think
it would have been easier
767
00:36:04,129 --> 00:36:06,097
for you to get them
to follow the rules
768
00:36:06,131 --> 00:36:07,299
if they weren't Lebanese?
769
00:36:07,333 --> 00:36:08,634
Of course.
770
00:36:08,667 --> 00:36:13,104
Canadians or anybody,
strangers, they do better.
771
00:36:13,138 --> 00:36:16,041
Rudy was generous
in his approach
772
00:36:16,074 --> 00:36:19,778
to any relative, any friend,
773
00:36:19,811 --> 00:36:22,248
any person that he liked.
774
00:36:22,281 --> 00:36:24,250
And they came
and asked for the name.
775
00:36:24,250 --> 00:36:25,484
He said, "Go ahead."
776
00:36:25,517 --> 00:36:28,254
He has a big heart,
and I envy him
777
00:36:28,254 --> 00:36:32,658
how he can put up with all that,
you know, with a smile,
778
00:36:32,691 --> 00:36:37,296
with a helping hand, always.
779
00:36:37,329 --> 00:36:39,064
You know,
when he gave everything
780
00:36:39,097 --> 00:36:40,966
to all those guys,
781
00:36:40,999 --> 00:36:44,069
he was happy to see them
doing very well.
782
00:36:44,102 --> 00:36:47,506
OMAR: As the carnage
in Lebanon raged on and on,
783
00:36:47,539 --> 00:36:49,275
Burger Barons became a terminal
784
00:36:49,275 --> 00:36:51,410
for other Lebanese people
displaced by war.
785
00:36:51,443 --> 00:36:53,979
The owners taught them
the recipes they got from Rudy,
786
00:36:54,012 --> 00:36:55,581
and showed them first-hand
787
00:36:55,614 --> 00:36:57,816
what it takes to run
a successful family restaurant.
788
00:37:00,386 --> 00:37:01,953
That's the secret recipe
789
00:37:01,987 --> 00:37:05,056
that was eventually passed down
to my family decades later.
790
00:37:06,525 --> 00:37:07,893
You know, I talked to your dad
791
00:37:07,926 --> 00:37:10,829
about, um, you know,
792
00:37:10,862 --> 00:37:12,764
about him finding out
793
00:37:12,798 --> 00:37:14,500
that we were
a Burger Baron family.
794
00:37:14,533 --> 00:37:15,734
WOMAN 1: Mmm-hmm.
795
00:37:15,767 --> 00:37:19,571
And whether that changed
his perception of me.
796
00:37:19,605 --> 00:37:22,508
Yeah, I guess,
to be honest, it did.
797
00:37:22,541 --> 00:37:24,343
Like I said, I've always
felt favorable
798
00:37:24,376 --> 00:37:25,544
towards Burger Baron.
799
00:37:25,577 --> 00:37:27,178
And when I found out
that you and your family
800
00:37:27,212 --> 00:37:28,614
had been involved with that,
801
00:37:28,647 --> 00:37:30,048
certainly I felt that, "Hey,
802
00:37:30,081 --> 00:37:32,551
"we have a bit of a kinship
and something in common."
803
00:37:32,584 --> 00:37:36,688
It definitely dispelled
and allayed
804
00:37:36,722 --> 00:37:40,592
a lot of the trepidation
I would have.
805
00:37:40,626 --> 00:37:42,227
-And it did.
-WOMAN 1: Yeah.
806
00:37:42,328 --> 00:37:44,796
For sure.
Because that's Albertan.
807
00:37:44,830 --> 00:37:47,098
-(OMAR LAUGHS)
-It makes you Canadian.
808
00:37:47,132 --> 00:37:48,900
-No longer a foreigner.
-No.
809
00:37:48,934 --> 00:37:50,101
A part of the fabric,
810
00:37:50,135 --> 00:37:52,604
the DNA of this great province
of Alberta.
811
00:37:52,638 --> 00:37:53,672
Absolutely.
812
00:37:56,908 --> 00:37:59,044
Hi, Baba. Did you get
your vaccine yesterday?
813
00:37:59,077 --> 00:38:00,446
-Oh, yeah.
-Oh!
814
00:38:01,413 --> 00:38:04,015
-(ULULATING)
-OMAR: Excellent.
815
00:38:04,049 --> 00:38:05,183
(ALL LAUGHING)
816
00:38:07,152 --> 00:38:08,720
Did you ever sell Lebanese food
in the restaurant?
817
00:38:08,754 --> 00:38:11,790
WOMAN 2: We tried one time
to make falafel.
818
00:38:11,823 --> 00:38:13,224
And it didn't really sell.
819
00:38:13,258 --> 00:38:15,694
Did you actually like the food?
At Burger Baron?
820
00:38:16,695 --> 00:38:19,631
Uh, I think so. Yeah. Yeah.
821
00:38:19,665 --> 00:38:21,733
(LAUGHING) You don't sound
very convincing.
822
00:38:21,767 --> 00:38:24,803
No, I do. I did like it.
823
00:38:24,836 --> 00:38:25,904
(SPEAKING ARABIC)
824
00:38:25,937 --> 00:38:27,806
OMAR: Do you remember
825
00:38:27,839 --> 00:38:31,577
when I went to the restaurant
on my own as a little kid?
826
00:38:31,610 --> 00:38:33,512
WOMAN 2: You were
about three-and-a-half.
827
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,882
And I didn't even know
you were gone
828
00:38:36,915 --> 00:38:38,750
because you were supposed
to be playing
829
00:38:38,784 --> 00:38:39,918
with your siblings.
830
00:38:39,951 --> 00:38:42,020
And you just walked out
of the house
831
00:38:42,053 --> 00:38:45,524
when I was cleaning
or cooking or something.
832
00:38:45,557 --> 00:38:48,860
And then I get a phone call,
833
00:38:48,894 --> 00:38:50,261
"Omar's here."
834
00:38:50,295 --> 00:38:52,698
I just freaked out.
835
00:38:52,731 --> 00:38:54,766
-Why did I go there?
-To get ice cream.
836
00:38:58,537 --> 00:38:59,605
Beautifully done.
837
00:39:00,406 --> 00:39:01,407
OMAR: I have a question.
838
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,074
I worked in the restaurant.
839
00:39:03,108 --> 00:39:04,443
I think when I was 10,
840
00:39:04,476 --> 00:39:06,512
I was probably maybe taking
some drive-in orders.
841
00:39:06,545 --> 00:39:08,814
And you put me in the dish pit.
842
00:39:08,847 --> 00:39:09,981
You never let me cook.
843
00:39:10,015 --> 00:39:12,484
How come? How come my brother,
844
00:39:12,518 --> 00:39:14,152
my older brother,
got to be a cook?
845
00:39:43,982 --> 00:39:45,451
OMAR: I hated the dishes.
846
00:39:45,451 --> 00:39:47,252
You were never meant to be
a Burger Baron.
847
00:39:53,459 --> 00:39:55,193
OMAR: Did you
originally want him
848
00:39:55,226 --> 00:39:57,162
to take over the restaurant?
Was that your big plan?
849
00:39:57,195 --> 00:39:58,329
(FATHER SPEAKING)
850
00:40:03,835 --> 00:40:05,771
MOTHER: To go through
what we went through.
851
00:40:18,183 --> 00:40:19,551
OMAR: So when you think
about that,
852
00:40:19,585 --> 00:40:21,653
what do you think
the Burger Baron
853
00:40:21,687 --> 00:40:25,123
has meant to our community?
854
00:40:26,224 --> 00:40:27,726
OMAR: It's free.
It's free knowledge.
855
00:40:27,759 --> 00:40:29,861
Someone taught it to me.
I taught it to you.
856
00:40:29,895 --> 00:40:32,263
The Lebanese generosity.
857
00:40:32,297 --> 00:40:34,700
-Yeah.
-(CHUCKLES) To share.
858
00:40:34,733 --> 00:40:35,834
-You're right.
-To share.
859
00:40:35,867 --> 00:40:36,902
That's how it is.
860
00:40:36,935 --> 00:40:38,369
They don't cooperate
very well...
861
00:40:38,403 --> 00:40:40,038
FATHER: No. (LAUGHS)
862
00:40:40,071 --> 00:40:41,573
...but they are generous.
863
00:40:41,607 --> 00:40:42,908
-(BABY GRUMBLING)
-You all right?
864
00:40:42,941 --> 00:40:44,543
(MOTHER LAUGHS)
865
00:40:44,576 --> 00:40:46,845
-Are you pooping?
-FATHER: No.
866
00:40:46,878 --> 00:40:48,747
OMAR: At the dinner table?
FATHER: No way.
867
00:40:48,780 --> 00:40:50,716
-No way. No way.
-(BABY EXCLAIMS)
868
00:40:50,749 --> 00:40:52,918
There's no pooping
at the dinner table.
869
00:40:52,951 --> 00:40:54,452
(RAP MUSIC PLAYING)
870
00:40:55,821 --> 00:40:58,056
OMAR: Burger Baron
is the perfect business model
871
00:40:58,089 --> 00:40:59,457
for Lebanese who,
872
00:40:59,491 --> 00:41:02,127
let's just say are famous
for their independence.
873
00:41:03,194 --> 00:41:04,262
You can notice something,
874
00:41:04,295 --> 00:41:05,664
if you go
to other Burger Barons,
875
00:41:05,697 --> 00:41:07,265
each one is different.
876
00:41:07,298 --> 00:41:10,201
Some of them... It's different.
They don't follow the rules.
877
00:41:10,235 --> 00:41:11,537
(RAP MUSIC CONTINUES)
878
00:41:26,017 --> 00:41:27,018
(LAUGHS)
879
00:41:33,992 --> 00:41:37,395
Everybody wants
to be the CEO of the company.
880
00:41:43,268 --> 00:41:44,670
(SAM SPEAKING)
881
00:41:53,211 --> 00:41:55,146
I love this job.
882
00:41:55,180 --> 00:41:56,314
-You do?
-Yes.
883
00:41:56,347 --> 00:41:57,683
What's your favorite part of it?
884
00:41:58,383 --> 00:41:59,651
Independence.
885
00:41:59,685 --> 00:42:01,987
MAN 3: I've been
to Burger Barons
886
00:42:02,020 --> 00:42:03,722
where they weren't good.
887
00:42:03,755 --> 00:42:06,157
I've been to Burger Barons
that were fantastic.
888
00:42:06,191 --> 00:42:08,493
It almost piques their curiosity
889
00:42:08,594 --> 00:42:10,428
"Let's go try Burger Baron,
see what it's like."
890
00:42:10,461 --> 00:42:12,330
There is no actual system.
891
00:42:12,363 --> 00:42:13,965
Let's say I wanted
to add something
892
00:42:13,999 --> 00:42:15,433
to the menu
or take something off,
893
00:42:15,466 --> 00:42:17,068
there's no head office
894
00:42:17,102 --> 00:42:18,503
to say anything.
895
00:42:19,771 --> 00:42:22,741
MAN 4: Maskwacis
is a native reserve.
896
00:42:22,774 --> 00:42:24,743
I support them
so they will feel at home
897
00:42:24,776 --> 00:42:26,311
when they walk in.
898
00:42:26,344 --> 00:42:29,615
We serve a bannock burger
and we sell bannock taco, too.
899
00:42:31,983 --> 00:42:34,786
Oh, my God, why aren't
all burgers bannock burgers?
900
00:42:36,822 --> 00:42:39,157
WOMAN 3: I've introduced a lot
of vegan options in this place.
901
00:42:39,190 --> 00:42:43,128
Dairy-free cheese,
vegan pepperoni, vegan sausage.
902
00:42:43,161 --> 00:42:46,765
I just haven't had the chance
to fully take on the reins.
903
00:42:46,798 --> 00:42:48,800
-She's the boss.
-(CHUCKLES)
904
00:42:48,834 --> 00:42:50,401
(RAP MUSIC CONTINUES)
905
00:43:00,211 --> 00:43:01,512
MAN 5: I like my freedom.
906
00:43:01,546 --> 00:43:04,182
And I know, with my mentality,
907
00:43:04,215 --> 00:43:07,653
I can't take orders
from somebody else.
908
00:43:07,653 --> 00:43:09,454
OMAR: McDonald's
is not gonna let you
909
00:43:09,487 --> 00:43:12,323
-open up a laundromat inside.
-No.
910
00:43:15,126 --> 00:43:16,928
The root is Canadian,
911
00:43:16,962 --> 00:43:20,231
but the trees and the fruit
are Lebanese.
912
00:43:20,265 --> 00:43:22,400
OMAR: Of course,
it would be a stereotype
913
00:43:22,433 --> 00:43:24,302
to say all Burger Barons
are Lebanese.
914
00:43:25,070 --> 00:43:26,137
Some are Palestinian.
915
00:43:32,143 --> 00:43:34,379
OMAR: Whether Christian,
Muslim or Druze,
916
00:43:34,412 --> 00:43:36,547
the syndicate is open
to everyone.
917
00:43:36,581 --> 00:43:38,316
But there's an unwritten rule:
918
00:43:38,349 --> 00:43:40,318
Never give
the mushroom sauce recipe
919
00:43:40,351 --> 00:43:41,419
to an outsider.
920
00:43:43,855 --> 00:43:45,590
Can you tell us
what's in the mushroom sauce?
921
00:43:45,691 --> 00:43:47,558
What the ingredients are.
922
00:43:47,592 --> 00:43:51,062
I don't like to talk
about that. (LAUGHS)
923
00:43:51,096 --> 00:43:53,064
The base is the Campbell's
Cream of Mushroom.
924
00:43:53,098 --> 00:43:54,499
That's right. And then,
925
00:43:54,532 --> 00:43:56,101
you have to add things
to it, right?
926
00:43:56,134 --> 00:43:58,003
-What do you add?
-You add the...
927
00:43:58,036 --> 00:43:59,404
There's things we add to it.
928
00:43:59,437 --> 00:44:02,340
-You're not gonna tell me.
-I can't. Ask your dad.
929
00:44:02,373 --> 00:44:04,309
What's in the Mushroom
Burger sauce?
930
00:44:07,245 --> 00:44:09,380
OMAR: But just because
they don't share the recipes
931
00:44:09,414 --> 00:44:10,916
with outsiders
932
00:44:10,949 --> 00:44:13,218
doesn't mean there haven't been
any information breaches.
933
00:44:13,251 --> 00:44:15,386
MAN 6: Actually
most of the burgers
934
00:44:15,420 --> 00:44:17,756
are the Burger Barons burgers.
935
00:44:17,789 --> 00:44:19,190
We get the same sauces
936
00:44:19,224 --> 00:44:21,026
and even the same burgers.
937
00:44:21,059 --> 00:44:23,061
What, the Burger Baron,
a long time ago
938
00:44:23,094 --> 00:44:24,595
used to buy from my company.
939
00:44:24,629 --> 00:44:26,832
What's in the mushroom sauce?
940
00:44:26,865 --> 00:44:28,533
SAM: Nothing. See,
when you do the mushrooms,
941
00:44:28,566 --> 00:44:30,001
I do it on the grill.
942
00:44:30,035 --> 00:44:31,602
I'll show you
how I do the Mushroom Burger.
943
00:44:31,636 --> 00:44:33,071
(SAM SPEAKING)
944
00:44:45,050 --> 00:44:46,752
All right.
945
00:44:46,785 --> 00:44:49,755
So let's see. It looks the same.
946
00:44:51,790 --> 00:44:52,991
Something tastes off.
947
00:44:54,425 --> 00:44:55,460
I think he's punking me.
948
00:44:57,495 --> 00:45:00,031
Thirty-three years old,
or 34, I don't know,
949
00:45:00,065 --> 00:45:01,099
when they first opened
950
00:45:01,132 --> 00:45:03,434
the Burger Baron
in High Prairie.
951
00:45:03,468 --> 00:45:07,038
OMAR: I never thought
I'd see one of these again.
952
00:45:07,072 --> 00:45:08,774
Did my dad know
953
00:45:08,807 --> 00:45:10,675
that you just took
our menu? (LAUGHS)
954
00:45:10,776 --> 00:45:12,477
Actually, your mom
brought it for us,
955
00:45:12,510 --> 00:45:13,945
and then she was a big helper
956
00:45:13,979 --> 00:45:15,313
-for us, too.
-Really?
957
00:45:15,346 --> 00:45:17,883
Oh. You know,
my favorite thing to eat
958
00:45:17,916 --> 00:45:19,317
is the Putine.
959
00:45:19,350 --> 00:45:21,987
Best Putine in all of Alberta.
960
00:45:22,553 --> 00:45:23,855
(OMAR LAUGHING)
961
00:45:26,992 --> 00:45:27,993
It's a pretty nice hat.
962
00:45:32,898 --> 00:45:34,532
(LAUGHING)
963
00:45:36,401 --> 00:45:37,502
Now, Ottawa may think
964
00:45:37,535 --> 00:45:39,404
it has cornered the market
on shawarma,
965
00:45:39,437 --> 00:45:42,340
and Halifax might think
it can claim the donair.
966
00:45:42,373 --> 00:45:44,209
Alberta, though,
can certainly claim
967
00:45:44,242 --> 00:45:48,313
the Lebanese-inflected
Burger Baron Mushroom Burger.
968
00:45:48,346 --> 00:45:50,548
TERRY: I would hear
about the Kemaldeans
969
00:45:50,581 --> 00:45:52,851
and their restaurants
970
00:45:52,884 --> 00:45:56,021
by other people saying,
"Oh, I drove through Milk River.
971
00:45:56,054 --> 00:45:58,023
"The Kemaldeans have put
another one up,"
972
00:45:58,056 --> 00:45:59,257
or something like this.
973
00:45:59,290 --> 00:46:01,059
They had a huge menu.
974
00:46:01,092 --> 00:46:02,928
The sauce wasn't the same.
975
00:46:02,961 --> 00:46:05,330
The Baron, it wasn't the same.
976
00:46:05,363 --> 00:46:07,265
It looked like somebody
looked at it
977
00:46:07,298 --> 00:46:08,633
and tried to draw it again,
978
00:46:08,666 --> 00:46:10,601
thinking, well, the name
is all they need
979
00:46:10,635 --> 00:46:11,669
to be a success.
980
00:46:11,702 --> 00:46:12,838
They had no...
981
00:46:12,871 --> 00:46:14,305
Well, I guess
they had a right to it
982
00:46:14,339 --> 00:46:18,276
because it was, at that time,
on the open market.
983
00:46:18,309 --> 00:46:20,711
It was frustrating,
I guess, I should say,
984
00:46:21,712 --> 00:46:23,414
that they just...
985
00:46:23,448 --> 00:46:24,515
The way they do business.
986
00:46:24,549 --> 00:46:27,152
I just wasn't impressed
with them.
987
00:46:27,185 --> 00:46:29,120
OMAR: Part
of Terry's frustration
988
00:46:29,154 --> 00:46:30,488
stemmed from unresolved feelings
989
00:46:30,521 --> 00:46:32,924
about his dad
giving up too easily
990
00:46:32,958 --> 00:46:34,759
on the company
after things went south.
991
00:46:34,860 --> 00:46:37,863
In fact, Jack McDonnell
had continued with the company,
992
00:46:37,863 --> 00:46:39,097
but as an independent.
993
00:46:39,130 --> 00:46:42,433
After dissolving
the corporation in 1961,
994
00:46:42,467 --> 00:46:45,303
he moved to Regina
to buy one of the original shops
995
00:46:45,336 --> 00:46:46,872
he used to collect
royalties from.
996
00:46:46,872 --> 00:46:49,440
He ran it with his second wife
as a mom-and-pop,
997
00:46:49,474 --> 00:46:52,577
until retiring to California
in 1979.
998
00:46:53,378 --> 00:46:55,013
He died a few years later.
999
00:46:55,046 --> 00:46:57,883
TERRY: I had had a steakhouse
1000
00:46:57,883 --> 00:47:00,886
in Lethbridge in the late '80s.
1001
00:47:00,919 --> 00:47:02,387
After four years,
1002
00:47:02,420 --> 00:47:05,223
I closed the restaurant,
stumbled around,
1003
00:47:05,256 --> 00:47:06,524
didn't know what to do,
1004
00:47:06,557 --> 00:47:08,026
and I thought, "Shoot,
there's no Burger Baron
1005
00:47:08,059 --> 00:47:09,194
"anymore in Calgary,
1006
00:47:09,227 --> 00:47:11,762
"maybe I'll go out
and start one up there."
1007
00:47:11,796 --> 00:47:14,399
I thought it could be lucrative
1008
00:47:14,432 --> 00:47:18,203
because of Calgary's history
with the Burger Barons.
1009
00:47:18,236 --> 00:47:21,106
Right off the bat,
as soon as I put the sign up,
1010
00:47:21,139 --> 00:47:22,407
it was good.
1011
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,442
I got a lot
of people saying, then,
1012
00:47:24,475 --> 00:47:25,776
"Where have you been?"
1013
00:47:25,810 --> 00:47:27,178
A guy came in
1014
00:47:28,980 --> 00:47:30,748
driving a Rolls Royce,
1015
00:47:30,781 --> 00:47:32,984
came in and ordered a hamburger.
1016
00:47:33,018 --> 00:47:36,321
And as I'm writing it down,
he said,
1017
00:47:36,354 --> 00:47:37,989
"I invented that."
1018
00:47:38,023 --> 00:47:41,126
And he said, "Also,
I started this franchise."
1019
00:47:41,927 --> 00:47:43,661
And then I asked him,
1020
00:47:43,694 --> 00:47:46,097
-"Do you know Jack McDonnell?"
-(GASPS)
1021
00:47:46,131 --> 00:47:48,799
And he then was very quiet,
got his hamburger,
1022
00:47:49,434 --> 00:47:50,435
and left.
1023
00:47:51,169 --> 00:47:52,603
I didn't know his name.
1024
00:47:55,540 --> 00:47:58,809
OMAR: I know exactly who it was.
1025
00:47:58,843 --> 00:48:01,279
I first investigated
the true origins
1026
00:48:01,312 --> 00:48:03,048
of the Burger Baron
a decade ago,
1027
00:48:03,081 --> 00:48:04,549
and as luck would have it,
1028
00:48:04,582 --> 00:48:06,952
I found the originator
right away.
1029
00:48:06,952 --> 00:48:08,753
Or so I thought.
1030
00:48:08,786 --> 00:48:11,189
Sal had weaved together
a loose tale
1031
00:48:11,222 --> 00:48:13,724
about co-founding the company
with Jack McDonnell
1032
00:48:13,758 --> 00:48:16,194
and his brother Dick in 1957,
1033
00:48:16,227 --> 00:48:18,496
barely a year
after immigrating to Canada
1034
00:48:18,529 --> 00:48:19,697
as a teenager.
1035
00:48:19,730 --> 00:48:21,599
He told me
he was a silent partner
1036
00:48:21,632 --> 00:48:23,068
who'd come up with the recipes
1037
00:48:23,101 --> 00:48:25,436
in lieu of any
financial investment.
1038
00:48:25,470 --> 00:48:26,771
And his biggest contribution,
1039
00:48:26,804 --> 00:48:28,839
the Mushroom Burger sauce,
1040
00:48:28,873 --> 00:48:32,177
which he claimed was made
with secret Lebanese spices,
1041
00:48:32,210 --> 00:48:34,512
claims he now denies ever making
1042
00:48:34,545 --> 00:48:36,447
as well as ever
having told Terry
1043
00:48:36,481 --> 00:48:38,783
that he invented the franchise.
1044
00:48:38,816 --> 00:48:40,718
We did not say
we invented the Burger Baron
1045
00:48:40,751 --> 00:48:42,020
or we started Burger Baron.
1046
00:48:42,053 --> 00:48:43,288
We said we have Burger Barons.
1047
00:48:43,321 --> 00:48:46,291
OMAR: So you never claimed
that you started
1048
00:48:46,324 --> 00:48:47,993
-the Burger Baron.
-No. No.
1049
00:48:47,993 --> 00:48:49,160
OMAR: But you had in the past.
1050
00:48:50,295 --> 00:48:52,697
He told me that he was
the Burger Baron.
1051
00:48:52,730 --> 00:48:54,765
And I've also heard
from someone else
1052
00:48:54,799 --> 00:48:57,235
that he has said
the same thing to them.
1053
00:48:57,268 --> 00:49:00,771
Maybe they misunderstood
what I said.
1054
00:49:00,805 --> 00:49:02,207
Well, I don't think
that I said...
1055
00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:04,309
-I did that.
-OMAR: Well...
1056
00:49:04,342 --> 00:49:05,776
-You told me...
-Yes.
1057
00:49:05,810 --> 00:49:07,278
...you had started
the Burger Baron.
1058
00:49:07,312 --> 00:49:08,779
I don't know you want me to say.
1059
00:49:08,813 --> 00:49:11,049
So if you want to report that,
go ahead, report it.
1060
00:49:11,082 --> 00:49:12,683
You could report
anything you like.
1061
00:49:13,518 --> 00:49:15,020
OMAR: In fairness to Sal,
1062
00:49:15,053 --> 00:49:16,854
he probably
wasn't the only brother
1063
00:49:16,887 --> 00:49:19,024
pretending to be the inventor.
1064
00:49:19,057 --> 00:49:21,359
There was a photo of you
at the Leduc location
1065
00:49:21,392 --> 00:49:24,829
where it was you
in your kitchen uniform.
1066
00:49:24,862 --> 00:49:26,031
And it said, you know,
1067
00:49:26,031 --> 00:49:29,134
"Rudy Kemaldean,
Burger Baron, 1955,"
1068
00:49:29,167 --> 00:49:32,837
which was years
before Burger Baron launched.
1069
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:35,240
Yeah.
1070
00:49:40,711 --> 00:49:42,047
Jamal? Jamal.
1071
00:49:42,047 --> 00:49:45,083
-OMAR: Your son?
-My son. Yeah.
1072
00:49:45,116 --> 00:49:47,485
I thought it would look better
to the customers, perhaps,
1073
00:49:47,518 --> 00:49:48,753
to be honest.
1074
00:49:48,786 --> 00:49:52,057
And wanted to make
the Burger Baron name
1075
00:49:52,057 --> 00:49:55,093
that much more interesting,
I guess.
1076
00:49:55,126 --> 00:49:56,761
Did you use to tell people
1077
00:49:56,794 --> 00:49:58,529
that you were
the Burger Baron inventor?
1078
00:49:58,563 --> 00:50:01,266
No, no. I never
even thought of it.
1079
00:50:01,299 --> 00:50:03,268
He claimed,
certainly to my face,
1080
00:50:03,301 --> 00:50:05,736
that he is the originator
of the Burger Baron.
1081
00:50:05,770 --> 00:50:06,937
He's the man.
1082
00:50:06,971 --> 00:50:08,439
He's the guy that came up
with all the stuff
1083
00:50:08,473 --> 00:50:11,742
like the logo and the food
and stuff like that.
1084
00:50:11,776 --> 00:50:13,778
Rudy was
a very convincing individual,
1085
00:50:13,811 --> 00:50:15,780
and he was standing
in his Burger Baron
1086
00:50:15,813 --> 00:50:17,582
surrounded by his children
1087
00:50:17,615 --> 00:50:19,417
telling me his story.
1088
00:50:19,450 --> 00:50:21,586
So I had no reason to doubt him.
1089
00:50:21,619 --> 00:50:24,455
Yeah, I mean, the story
sounds a little better, right?
1090
00:50:24,489 --> 00:50:26,091
The Mushroom Burger
tasted a little better
1091
00:50:26,124 --> 00:50:28,693
when you ate it maybe,
if you knew that story.
1092
00:50:28,726 --> 00:50:29,760
(CHUCKLES)
1093
00:50:29,794 --> 00:50:31,729
That was where
our mafia comes in.
1094
00:50:31,762 --> 00:50:33,231
That's about as criminal
as we got.
1095
00:50:34,099 --> 00:50:36,967
So many people came to Rudy
1096
00:50:37,001 --> 00:50:38,269
thinking he was
the Burger Baron,
1097
00:50:38,303 --> 00:50:40,138
and they could open
a Burger Baron,
1098
00:50:40,171 --> 00:50:41,972
and Rudy said, "Go ahead."
Whatever the case.
1099
00:50:42,006 --> 00:50:44,442
I used to drive
to various Burger Barons.
1100
00:50:44,475 --> 00:50:47,912
You ask for a Baronet,
heaven knows what you'll get.
1101
00:50:47,945 --> 00:50:51,916
We can't even agree
on our last name's spelling,
1102
00:50:51,949 --> 00:50:53,984
let alone, you know,
1103
00:50:54,018 --> 00:50:55,553
getting everything consistent
like sauces
1104
00:50:55,586 --> 00:50:57,288
and everything else,
so... (CHUCKLES)
1105
00:50:57,322 --> 00:50:59,424
You know, of course
we had our challenges there.
1106
00:50:59,457 --> 00:51:01,092
OMAR: For Terry
and the Kemaldeans,
1107
00:51:01,126 --> 00:51:04,395
the inconsistencies
have tainted the brand name.
1108
00:51:04,429 --> 00:51:06,964
But for the Burger Barons'
stalwart customers,
1109
00:51:06,997 --> 00:51:09,334
the chaos might be
the best part about it.
1110
00:51:12,270 --> 00:51:14,305
MAN 7: The reason
it's so special is the lore,
1111
00:51:14,339 --> 00:51:17,308
the urban legend
that comes along with it.
1112
00:51:17,342 --> 00:51:21,846
It's a chain restaurant
that went wrong,
1113
00:51:21,879 --> 00:51:23,148
and the food is...
1114
00:51:23,148 --> 00:51:25,350
There's no quality control
between them.
1115
00:51:25,383 --> 00:51:28,419
The burgers are spongy.
But I love them.
1116
00:51:28,453 --> 00:51:30,155
What I love
about the Burger Baron
1117
00:51:30,155 --> 00:51:31,889
is it's so mysterious.
1118
00:51:31,922 --> 00:51:34,992
It's funny to imagine
all these burger chains,
1119
00:51:35,025 --> 00:51:37,228
sprawling out from one origin
1120
00:51:37,262 --> 00:51:38,763
and then disputing
1121
00:51:38,796 --> 00:51:40,665
-who the original guy was.
-(LAUGHS)
1122
00:51:40,698 --> 00:51:42,233
-OMAR: Yeah.
-"And the Burger Baron,
1123
00:51:42,267 --> 00:51:43,568
"who is that guy?"
1124
00:51:43,601 --> 00:51:45,936
Any other burger restaurant
that you can go to,
1125
00:51:45,970 --> 00:51:47,238
any franchise or something,
1126
00:51:47,272 --> 00:51:50,508
that magic isn't there,
that personality.
1127
00:51:50,541 --> 00:51:53,043
When I think of other
fast food joints,
1128
00:51:53,077 --> 00:51:54,445
it's all about
reproduction, right?
1129
00:51:54,479 --> 00:51:56,080
Everything has to taste
the same every single time.
1130
00:51:56,181 --> 00:51:57,582
You have your favorite
Burger Baron.
1131
00:51:57,615 --> 00:51:59,184
You don't have
your favorite McDonald's.
1132
00:51:59,184 --> 00:52:02,687
You don't have your favorite
Taco Bell or something, right?
1133
00:52:02,720 --> 00:52:05,490
The Burger Baron
in Redwater makes pizza.
1134
00:52:05,523 --> 00:52:07,091
Do other Burger Barons
have pizza?
1135
00:52:07,192 --> 00:52:11,196
OMAR: Yeah, my parents'
restaurant was big on pizza.
1136
00:52:11,196 --> 00:52:13,097
Maybe sold as many pizzas
as burgers.
1137
00:52:13,198 --> 00:52:15,600
-Wait, your parents had a...
-Yes, I'm the son of a Baron.
1138
00:52:15,633 --> 00:52:18,002
-Holy shit. You're royalty.
-It's not everyday...
1139
00:52:18,035 --> 00:52:20,705
Sometimes when you walk into
a more modern or updated one,
1140
00:52:20,738 --> 00:52:22,640
it's kind of a letdown in a way.
1141
00:52:22,673 --> 00:52:24,975
OMAR: What these superfans
don't realize
1142
00:52:25,009 --> 00:52:27,011
is just how hard
the Barons tried
1143
00:52:27,044 --> 00:52:29,079
to become the very thing
they despise.
1144
00:52:30,981 --> 00:52:32,250
NAZEM: Back in the '80s,
1145
00:52:32,283 --> 00:52:35,653
I invited a whole bunch
of Burger Baron owners
1146
00:52:35,686 --> 00:52:36,887
into Edmonton,
1147
00:52:36,921 --> 00:52:38,856
and we will have
our own suppliers
1148
00:52:38,889 --> 00:52:40,225
mixing our stuff,
1149
00:52:40,258 --> 00:52:42,227
and then I'll have
like a warehouse.
1150
00:52:42,260 --> 00:52:45,396
Everything comes strictly
for the Burger Baron.
1151
00:52:45,430 --> 00:52:50,535
We tried to get everybody
together to agree
1152
00:52:50,568 --> 00:52:53,471
so everybody
will be all the same
1153
00:52:53,504 --> 00:52:55,340
for all of them,
wherever you go.
1154
00:52:55,373 --> 00:52:57,708
OMAR: His uncles Rudy
and Fauzi had twice attempted
1155
00:52:57,742 --> 00:52:59,143
to unify the chain,
1156
00:52:59,244 --> 00:53:00,578
but it never lasted.
1157
00:53:00,611 --> 00:53:02,580
By 1984, the Burger Baron brand
1158
00:53:02,613 --> 00:53:04,549
had been overtaken
and proliferated
1159
00:53:04,582 --> 00:53:06,884
by a handful of Lebanese
immigrant families.
1160
00:53:06,917 --> 00:53:07,985
Thanks to them,
1161
00:53:08,018 --> 00:53:10,120
the empire had never been bigger
1162
00:53:10,154 --> 00:53:11,922
and never more disorganized.
1163
00:53:11,956 --> 00:53:13,424
The civil war brought us
1164
00:53:13,458 --> 00:53:16,160
some of "the unwelcome,"
you might say,
1165
00:53:16,261 --> 00:53:17,328
in the business field.
1166
00:53:17,362 --> 00:53:20,665
They don't have
the first clue about PR
1167
00:53:20,698 --> 00:53:22,300
or being nice to people
1168
00:53:22,333 --> 00:53:27,071
or giving them
what they pay for.
1169
00:53:27,104 --> 00:53:28,639
OMAR: So Nazem stepped up
1170
00:53:28,673 --> 00:53:30,408
and tried to rein in
the Burger Baron
1171
00:53:30,441 --> 00:53:32,142
for the family once again.
1172
00:53:32,176 --> 00:53:35,613
Rudy gave me the okay
to see if I can fix things
1173
00:53:35,646 --> 00:53:36,747
the way I wanted.
1174
00:53:36,781 --> 00:53:39,149
If he could do it better,
1175
00:53:39,183 --> 00:53:40,585
that's good for everybody.
1176
00:53:40,618 --> 00:53:42,620
You know, for me, for him.
1177
00:53:42,653 --> 00:53:44,755
He had no right
to even tell him that.
1178
00:53:44,789 --> 00:53:46,524
He could tell him
he could do anything.
1179
00:53:46,557 --> 00:53:47,825
He can tell him
to go to the moon.
1180
00:53:48,993 --> 00:53:51,161
But there is the problem.
1181
00:53:51,195 --> 00:53:52,630
"No, mine is better."
1182
00:53:52,663 --> 00:53:55,766
I said, "We put
10 different sauces
1183
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,302
"and let a food judge pick."
1184
00:53:57,302 --> 00:53:59,637
But nobody would want to agree.
1185
00:53:59,670 --> 00:54:01,306
You know how the Lebanese way.
1186
00:54:01,306 --> 00:54:03,441
You can't put it
through their heads
1187
00:54:03,474 --> 00:54:08,546
that younger guys have,
sometimes, better ideas.
1188
00:54:08,579 --> 00:54:13,050
Nazem is grandulizing
himself too much.
1189
00:54:14,985 --> 00:54:17,755
NAZEM: I think
they were afraid of things
1190
00:54:17,788 --> 00:54:19,724
that will not go their way.
1191
00:54:20,958 --> 00:54:23,027
After I decided not to do it,
1192
00:54:23,060 --> 00:54:24,529
a few got together,
1193
00:54:24,562 --> 00:54:26,531
and they wanted
to do it themselves.
1194
00:54:26,564 --> 00:54:29,500
That's when I refused
and I wouldn't go with them.
1195
00:54:31,636 --> 00:54:32,770
(JAMIL SPEAKING)
1196
00:54:55,860 --> 00:54:59,364
OMAR: Jamil organized
a Summit of the Barons in 1989.
1197
00:54:59,364 --> 00:55:00,798
And perhaps
because he wasn't part
1198
00:55:00,831 --> 00:55:02,433
of the Kemaldean family,
1199
00:55:02,467 --> 00:55:05,069
he successfully convinced
a dozen or two Barons
1200
00:55:05,102 --> 00:55:07,372
to meet in Edmonton
to hear out his vision,
1201
00:55:07,372 --> 00:55:09,740
including my dad
and Uncle Abdul-Aziz.
1202
00:55:26,891 --> 00:55:28,893
OMAR: By the end of the 1980s,
1203
00:55:28,926 --> 00:55:30,495
small-town diners
like my parents'
1204
00:55:30,528 --> 00:55:33,097
had to contend
with name-brand competition
1205
00:55:33,130 --> 00:55:35,165
that had the advertising
and buying power
1206
00:55:35,199 --> 00:55:37,502
to price out the moms-and-pops.
1207
00:55:37,535 --> 00:55:40,004
The new franchises
couldn't register.
1208
00:55:40,037 --> 00:55:42,573
So it was just
like an association.
1209
00:55:49,814 --> 00:55:51,616
They could not try to unite
1210
00:55:51,649 --> 00:55:55,886
the name
and get everybody together.
1211
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:57,955
There was so many people,
you know.
1212
00:55:57,988 --> 00:56:00,458
Some of them,
they brought their wives,
1213
00:56:00,491 --> 00:56:03,928
and it's just like a gathering.
1214
00:56:03,961 --> 00:56:05,930
Everybody was excited
1215
00:56:05,963 --> 00:56:07,998
about what, in the end,
it was gonna be.
1216
00:56:10,067 --> 00:56:11,502
They started talking
1217
00:56:11,536 --> 00:56:13,971
about getting
all the buildings the same
1218
00:56:15,039 --> 00:56:16,441
and as soon
as they started talking
1219
00:56:16,474 --> 00:56:18,042
about building the same,
1220
00:56:18,075 --> 00:56:20,010
nobody wanted to be involved.
1221
00:56:20,044 --> 00:56:21,646
Almost everybody
wanted to leave.
1222
00:56:27,585 --> 00:56:31,055
They said, "Okay, well,
don't worry about the building,
1223
00:56:31,088 --> 00:56:33,558
"we're gonna try
to join together
1224
00:56:33,591 --> 00:56:36,627
"at least when we buy
the groceries
1225
00:56:36,661 --> 00:56:38,796
"and the meat from the company."
1226
00:56:38,829 --> 00:56:40,531
MUSTAPHA: And then
after that, he said,
1227
00:56:40,565 --> 00:56:44,301
"If I want
to keep going like that,
1228
00:56:44,334 --> 00:56:45,503
"I need to have wages."
1229
00:56:46,203 --> 00:56:47,538
He's gonna be in charge,
1230
00:56:47,572 --> 00:56:51,742
and he's gonna have
his own office and secretary.
1231
00:56:51,776 --> 00:56:53,711
And everybody started thinking,
1232
00:56:53,744 --> 00:56:58,182
"Hey, this guy is gonna fool us.
No. No." (CHUCKLES)
1233
00:57:10,327 --> 00:57:12,062
You have your own place,
1234
00:57:12,096 --> 00:57:16,501
and now somebody
almost control your business
1235
00:57:16,501 --> 00:57:17,635
and tell you what to do,
1236
00:57:18,503 --> 00:57:19,970
and that's the worst.
1237
00:57:20,004 --> 00:57:21,405
I'm the owner.
1238
00:57:21,506 --> 00:57:24,008
And whatever happens,
it's my decision.
1239
00:57:34,519 --> 00:57:36,153
OMAR: Jamil did manage
to at least get
1240
00:57:36,186 --> 00:57:37,922
that rebate he promised.
1241
00:57:37,955 --> 00:57:40,925
But without any assistance
from his fellow Barons,
1242
00:57:40,958 --> 00:57:42,960
he let it expire after two years
1243
00:57:42,993 --> 00:57:44,294
and then retired for good.
1244
00:57:56,574 --> 00:57:59,877
It was a good idea, you know,
1245
00:57:59,910 --> 00:58:01,846
if we went for it, even.
1246
00:58:01,879 --> 00:58:03,881
I think it'll work,
1247
00:58:03,914 --> 00:58:06,717
just like you have at A&W.
1248
00:58:13,991 --> 00:58:17,728
I would have loved
to see the Burger Baron
1249
00:58:17,762 --> 00:58:21,065
in a lot better way
than it is now.
1250
00:58:21,098 --> 00:58:22,366
OMAR: But this wasn't the end
1251
00:58:22,399 --> 00:58:24,702
of the Burger Barons'
franchising efforts.
1252
00:58:24,735 --> 00:58:27,104
As the old guard
was losing steam,
1253
00:58:27,137 --> 00:58:29,106
a new generation
was making moves.
1254
00:58:34,144 --> 00:58:36,714
We knew that there is
an association or some group
1255
00:58:36,747 --> 00:58:37,782
trying to do the same thing.
1256
00:58:37,815 --> 00:58:39,449
It didn't work.
1257
00:58:39,483 --> 00:58:41,886
So I thought
maybe I'll try my way
1258
00:58:41,919 --> 00:58:43,788
and I called it Burger Baron:
The New Generation.
1259
00:58:43,821 --> 00:58:46,624
I wanted to change
the image of the company.
1260
00:58:46,657 --> 00:58:49,827
So I came up with this idea,
with the Burger Baron logo,
1261
00:58:49,860 --> 00:58:51,061
the New Generation.
1262
00:58:51,095 --> 00:58:52,830
I thought this was
gonna make a new wave.
1263
00:58:52,863 --> 00:58:55,365
At the time, there were 60
Burger Barons.
1264
00:58:56,266 --> 00:58:57,735
So I wanted to unify this
1265
00:58:57,768 --> 00:59:00,304
and put it in one agreement,
and one price for everybody.
1266
00:59:00,337 --> 00:59:01,471
Everybody loves it.
1267
00:59:01,505 --> 00:59:02,940
My cousins, my brothers.
1268
00:59:02,973 --> 00:59:05,009
A lot of people showed interest.
1269
00:59:05,042 --> 00:59:06,410
They showed me the support.
1270
00:59:06,443 --> 00:59:08,913
That's why I spent some money
doing the jingle.
1271
00:59:08,946 --> 00:59:12,049
(JINGLE PLAYING)
* Burger Baron
1272
00:59:12,082 --> 00:59:13,984
* We're the hot spot
right here in town... *
1273
00:59:14,018 --> 00:59:16,420
MIKE: They love the jingle,
they want to use it.
1274
00:59:16,453 --> 00:59:18,022
They want to be part of it.
1275
00:59:18,055 --> 00:59:20,390
But when they see
there is an agreement...
1276
00:59:20,424 --> 00:59:23,227
* ...we'll take it back
to the good old days... *
1277
00:59:23,260 --> 00:59:27,197
What I do here
is different than what he does.
1278
00:59:27,231 --> 00:59:28,633
"No, I'm not signing this."
1279
00:59:28,633 --> 00:59:30,635
Even within our family.
1280
00:59:33,403 --> 00:59:34,639
My lawyer advised me
1281
00:59:34,639 --> 00:59:37,207
it's too difficult
to franchise Burger Baron.
1282
00:59:37,241 --> 00:59:38,676
If you want to claim it,
you have to take each
1283
00:59:38,709 --> 00:59:41,178
and every person to court.
1284
00:59:41,211 --> 00:59:44,048
I ended up creating Best Bite.
1285
00:59:44,081 --> 00:59:46,851
So I kept the logo
and changed the name
1286
00:59:46,884 --> 00:59:48,285
from Burger Baron:
The New Generation.
1287
00:59:48,318 --> 00:59:49,954
OMAR: How's that going?
1288
00:59:49,987 --> 00:59:51,922
So far, this is
the first location.
1289
00:59:51,956 --> 00:59:53,724
OMAR: No one has ever paid
1290
00:59:53,758 --> 00:59:55,926
-to use the Best Bite?
-Not yet.
1291
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:57,862
OMAR: What about
your family members?
1292
00:59:57,895 --> 01:00:00,665
They like the logo,
they took the logo, they use it.
1293
01:00:00,665 --> 01:00:02,366
Maybe it's temporary or not,
1294
01:00:02,399 --> 01:00:03,734
but that's what I'm using
right now.
1295
01:00:03,768 --> 01:00:05,302
Every Lebanese guy is like that.
1296
01:00:05,335 --> 01:00:07,104
Maybe that's our brain
like that. I don't know.
1297
01:00:07,137 --> 01:00:09,206
I think it's a cultural thing
1298
01:00:09,239 --> 01:00:11,776
that we have
such a strong independence
1299
01:00:12,609 --> 01:00:15,445
that a franchise system
1300
01:00:15,479 --> 01:00:17,481
doesn't really work well
with us.
1301
01:00:19,917 --> 01:00:22,252
OMAR: This fierce independence
has a dark side
1302
01:00:22,286 --> 01:00:24,554
apparent in Lebanon itself.
1303
01:00:24,588 --> 01:00:28,558
It's this chronic disunity
that pit party against party,
1304
01:00:28,592 --> 01:00:31,929
religion against religion,
and citizen against citizen.
1305
01:00:33,998 --> 01:00:36,734
Though the civil war ended
more than 30 years ago,
1306
01:00:36,767 --> 01:00:38,335
the tyranny of incompetence
1307
01:00:38,368 --> 01:00:39,804
spread through every part
of Lebanon
1308
01:00:39,837 --> 01:00:42,272
from hyperinflation
to basic services
1309
01:00:42,306 --> 01:00:45,810
like garbage collection,
electricity and health care.
1310
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,217
It is, by all measures,
a failed state.
1311
01:00:58,989 --> 01:01:01,091
RUDY: I am always excited
to be here.
1312
01:01:01,125 --> 01:01:03,493
It's a beautiful country,
beautiful villages,
1313
01:01:03,527 --> 01:01:05,730
beautiful mountains.
1314
01:01:05,763 --> 01:01:09,399
But with Corona for two years,
we stayed home.
1315
01:01:09,433 --> 01:01:12,002
And the situation
and politicians
1316
01:01:12,036 --> 01:01:13,537
in Lebanon is bad.
1317
01:01:13,570 --> 01:01:16,540
We will see what is going
to happen if all is settled
1318
01:01:16,573 --> 01:01:19,076
and we'll be glad to be here.
1319
01:01:19,109 --> 01:01:21,879
Otherwise, I'll be in Canada,
I'll stay there.
1320
01:01:26,416 --> 01:01:28,418
Boy, there's a lot
of clothes in this.
1321
01:01:31,822 --> 01:01:35,525
We do like to go
on holidays and rest
1322
01:01:35,559 --> 01:01:39,129
because I spend lots of time
with the Burger Barons,
1323
01:01:39,163 --> 01:01:41,198
working 18 hours a day,
1324
01:01:41,231 --> 01:01:45,169
every day, every week,
and you don't go anywhere.
1325
01:01:45,903 --> 01:01:47,772
Just a big prison.
1326
01:01:47,772 --> 01:01:49,774
About 15 years ago,
1327
01:01:49,774 --> 01:01:51,842
we started coming to Lebanon
1328
01:01:52,777 --> 01:01:54,411
four or five months here,
1329
01:01:54,444 --> 01:01:58,148
and four or five,
the rest, in Canada.
1330
01:01:58,182 --> 01:02:00,650
There used to be
a Burger Baron in Aley.
1331
01:02:00,684 --> 01:02:02,086
We used to go there.
1332
01:02:02,119 --> 01:02:07,792
And it's very good food
and we used to enjoy it.
1333
01:02:07,792 --> 01:02:10,861
All of a sudden,
when we came back this year,
1334
01:02:10,895 --> 01:02:12,496
it closed down.
1335
01:02:12,529 --> 01:02:15,065
It looks like something else,
like a butcher shop inside.
1336
01:02:15,099 --> 01:02:16,333
They still got the same,
1337
01:02:16,366 --> 01:02:18,535
the Burger Baron sign, in there.
1338
01:02:20,504 --> 01:02:23,240
OMAR: Rudy
officially retired in 2015.
1339
01:02:23,273 --> 01:02:26,676
But he gave up on being
the Godfather long ago,
1340
01:02:26,710 --> 01:02:29,546
with some hard-earned lessons
about loyalty and trust.
1341
01:02:30,614 --> 01:02:33,050
Most of the time,
they lose their business
1342
01:02:33,083 --> 01:02:35,820
because they never
look after it.
1343
01:02:37,687 --> 01:02:39,056
They go have a good time
1344
01:02:39,089 --> 01:02:41,725
and I get stuck
looking after it,
1345
01:02:41,826 --> 01:02:43,527
everyone I helped.
1346
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:47,932
They put the blame on me
if they didn't make money.
1347
01:02:47,965 --> 01:02:50,935
So that's why, now,
1348
01:02:50,968 --> 01:02:53,570
even at that time,
they went on their own
1349
01:02:53,603 --> 01:02:55,339
and I was on my own.
1350
01:02:55,372 --> 01:02:57,707
Not involved with any
of my cousins
1351
01:02:57,741 --> 01:03:01,445
or brothers or anything.
1352
01:03:01,478 --> 01:03:06,150
My father, he's a very
generous, giving man
1353
01:03:06,183 --> 01:03:09,586
but that also opens doors
to, you know,
1354
01:03:09,619 --> 01:03:11,121
sometimes being
taken advantage of.
1355
01:03:12,222 --> 01:03:13,357
And unfortunately,
1356
01:03:13,390 --> 01:03:15,993
I saw quite a bit
of that as well.
1357
01:03:16,026 --> 01:03:18,095
We were having a hard time
back in the '80s.
1358
01:03:18,128 --> 01:03:19,930
He had lost a motel
he used to own.
1359
01:03:19,964 --> 01:03:21,498
He was spread too thin.
1360
01:03:21,531 --> 01:03:22,967
So without getting
into too much detail,
1361
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,669
let's just say
if the Kemaldean family
1362
01:03:25,702 --> 01:03:27,938
worked as close together
1363
01:03:27,972 --> 01:03:30,540
as I wish they would have,
1364
01:03:31,876 --> 01:03:33,978
they'd probably
be billionaires right now.
1365
01:03:34,011 --> 01:03:35,880
Some relatives and others,
1366
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:37,681
they never call me.
1367
01:03:37,714 --> 01:03:40,550
They come and visit
once in a while
1368
01:03:40,584 --> 01:03:43,620
if they need something,
in most cases.
1369
01:03:43,653 --> 01:03:49,159
I learned not to help anybody
if I am not too sure of them.
1370
01:03:49,193 --> 01:03:51,896
Do you think that the success
of the Burger Baron
1371
01:03:51,896 --> 01:03:54,364
was a curse over your family
1372
01:03:54,398 --> 01:03:56,901
and your relationship
with your brothers?
1373
01:03:56,901 --> 01:04:00,137
Well it turns out,
it might be. It might be.
1374
01:04:00,170 --> 01:04:02,006
Because I was successful,
1375
01:04:02,039 --> 01:04:05,709
and everybody thinks
if they open Burger Baron,
1376
01:04:05,742 --> 01:04:08,545
they'll probably be like Rudy,
they'll be successful.
1377
01:04:08,578 --> 01:04:10,747
But, I mean, you have to work
like Rudy.
1378
01:04:10,780 --> 01:04:14,718
Not go picnic and leave staff
running the place.
1379
01:04:14,751 --> 01:04:17,821
You have to work
and work and work.
1380
01:04:17,922 --> 01:04:19,957
Anything you want to do,
1381
01:04:19,990 --> 01:04:21,959
you'll have to do it right
or don't do it,
1382
01:04:21,992 --> 01:04:23,560
simple as that.
1383
01:04:23,593 --> 01:04:29,499
I had enough of the whole deal,
and, to me, I should learn.
1384
01:04:29,533 --> 01:04:34,471
And I did learn,
so I'm okay after that.
1385
01:04:34,504 --> 01:04:36,974
OMAR: Rudy's decision
to pull back his influence
1386
01:04:37,007 --> 01:04:39,843
created an opportunity
for a new Godfather,
1387
01:04:39,944 --> 01:04:43,313
and one showed up
in the most unlikely form.
1388
01:04:43,347 --> 01:04:46,984
In 1996, two trademark
applications were submitted
1389
01:04:47,017 --> 01:04:48,685
for the Burger Baron name
and logo
1390
01:04:48,718 --> 01:04:50,354
from Regina, Saskatchewan,
1391
01:04:50,387 --> 01:04:51,989
and the applicant was none other
1392
01:04:52,022 --> 01:04:54,258
than Jack McDonnell's
widow Rikie.
1393
01:04:54,291 --> 01:04:56,593
She'd been operating
a popular Burger Baron
1394
01:04:56,626 --> 01:04:57,962
after his death,
1395
01:04:57,962 --> 01:04:59,997
and was preparing
to appoint her son James
1396
01:05:00,030 --> 01:05:01,131
to the throne.
1397
01:05:01,165 --> 01:05:03,000
TERRY: When Dad died,
1398
01:05:03,033 --> 01:05:05,535
Rikie moved back to Regina,
1399
01:05:05,569 --> 01:05:09,339
then she built a new one
on the lot.
1400
01:05:09,373 --> 01:05:11,841
REPORTER: While there are many
fast food choices available,
1401
01:05:11,875 --> 01:05:14,111
McDonnell hopes his gamble
will pay off
1402
01:05:14,144 --> 01:05:15,980
and cook up even more business
1403
01:05:15,980 --> 01:05:19,249
for his locally-owned
and-operated Burger Baron.
1404
01:05:19,283 --> 01:05:21,351
I'm a capitalist
and I just wanted
1405
01:05:21,385 --> 01:05:22,552
to grow the business,
1406
01:05:22,586 --> 01:05:23,988
and hopefully
move forward after this
1407
01:05:23,988 --> 01:05:26,756
maybe to Saskatoon
and other markets after this.
1408
01:05:26,790 --> 01:05:28,692
EMPLOYEE: There you go.
WOMAN: Thank you.
1409
01:05:28,725 --> 01:05:31,228
OMAR: Ready to expand
to a second location,
1410
01:05:31,261 --> 01:05:33,230
Rikie's sons
had advised their mom
1411
01:05:33,263 --> 01:05:36,266
to protect the family legacy
once and for all.
1412
01:05:36,300 --> 01:05:38,602
Their trademark was challenged
almost immediately
1413
01:05:38,635 --> 01:05:42,139
by another company,
Kemaldean Food Enterprises.
1414
01:05:42,172 --> 01:05:44,041
But it wasn't Rudy
in charge now.
1415
01:05:44,074 --> 01:05:45,909
It was his younger brother, Sal.
1416
01:05:46,010 --> 01:05:49,646
Rikie McDonnell applied
one week earlier than I did.
1417
01:05:49,679 --> 01:05:52,816
-OMAR: Just by coincidence?
-It's a coincidence. Yes.
1418
01:05:54,184 --> 01:05:56,220
The both of you decided...
1419
01:05:56,253 --> 01:05:57,787
-It is...
-...that it was time
1420
01:05:57,821 --> 01:06:01,225
to finally rein in
the Burger Baron
1421
01:06:01,258 --> 01:06:05,062
-after 34 years?
-Years.
1422
01:06:05,095 --> 01:06:07,031
That is the funniest part
about it.
1423
01:06:07,031 --> 01:06:11,635
I said, "Rikie, you applied
one week earlier than I do.
1424
01:06:11,668 --> 01:06:14,038
"I could be spending
a couple of $100,000
1425
01:06:14,038 --> 01:06:15,139
"for lawyers' fees,
1426
01:06:15,172 --> 01:06:16,240
"and you could be spending
1427
01:06:16,273 --> 01:06:18,075
"a couple $100,000
for lawyers' fees
1428
01:06:18,108 --> 01:06:19,643
"and we will not get anywhere."
1429
01:06:19,676 --> 01:06:21,645
OMAR: Rather than fight it
in court,
1430
01:06:21,678 --> 01:06:23,580
they decided to split
the territory.
1431
01:06:23,613 --> 01:06:26,583
Rikie would get Eastern Canada
and the US,
1432
01:06:26,616 --> 01:06:29,186
and the Kemaldeans
would get Alberta and BC.
1433
01:06:30,554 --> 01:06:32,889
TERRY: Rikie talked to me
about it, and I said,
1434
01:06:32,922 --> 01:06:34,258
"I don't think you should.
1435
01:06:34,291 --> 01:06:36,393
"I think you should leave
that one alone."
1436
01:06:36,426 --> 01:06:38,328
The name is across the country,
1437
01:06:38,362 --> 01:06:40,264
you can't go back
to them and say,
1438
01:06:40,297 --> 01:06:42,399
"You owe me a whole bunch
of franchise fees,
1439
01:06:43,867 --> 01:06:46,503
"a percentage of your gross
in the last 20 years."
1440
01:06:46,536 --> 01:06:47,871
You know, that's not gonna work.
1441
01:06:47,904 --> 01:06:52,676
The evidentiary question
of who started Burger Baron,
1442
01:06:52,709 --> 01:06:55,412
who had the original IP,
1443
01:06:55,445 --> 01:06:58,348
is so lost in time
1444
01:06:58,382 --> 01:07:02,686
that it would be very difficult
for somebody to succeed
1445
01:07:02,719 --> 01:07:04,254
on either a passing-off claim
1446
01:07:04,288 --> 01:07:07,091
or a trademark
enforcement claim.
1447
01:07:07,124 --> 01:07:08,792
TERRY: The corporation
had the rights
1448
01:07:08,825 --> 01:07:10,427
to the trade name,
1449
01:07:10,460 --> 01:07:12,262
and the corporation went under,
1450
01:07:12,296 --> 01:07:13,663
and nobody had it.
1451
01:07:13,697 --> 01:07:16,433
It was up for anybody
who wants it.
1452
01:07:16,466 --> 01:07:18,135
Anyway, they went ahead with it.
1453
01:07:18,168 --> 01:07:19,803
I don't think anything
came of it.
1454
01:07:25,709 --> 01:07:27,611
OMAR: Certainly
nothing came of it for Rikie
1455
01:07:27,644 --> 01:07:29,113
out in Saskatchewan.
1456
01:07:29,146 --> 01:07:30,847
She was the lone Baroness
1457
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:32,449
running two
successful restaurants
1458
01:07:32,482 --> 01:07:34,384
with her son, James.
1459
01:07:34,418 --> 01:07:36,420
But Alberta
was a different story.
1460
01:07:37,354 --> 01:07:38,988
When we got the franchise,
1461
01:07:39,022 --> 01:07:40,990
that's when I got stern
with everybody.
1462
01:07:45,429 --> 01:07:47,131
Nobody cared about it,
1463
01:07:47,131 --> 01:07:48,732
as long as they're making money
and putting it in their pocket,
1464
01:07:48,765 --> 01:07:50,534
they don't care about what
the Burger Baron looks like.
1465
01:07:50,567 --> 01:07:52,902
He said, "Excuse me,
who allowed you
1466
01:07:52,936 --> 01:07:54,671
"to open Burger Baron?"
1467
01:07:54,704 --> 01:07:57,006
I said, "Well,
I allowed myself."
1468
01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:02,146
He phoned and he told me
he's the original owner.
1469
01:08:02,179 --> 01:08:06,983
I never said that I invented
the Burger Baron, or did that.
1470
01:08:26,303 --> 01:08:29,406
He said, "You know, the name,
1471
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:33,277
"it's gonna cost you $450
a month."
1472
01:08:33,310 --> 01:08:35,345
So I said,
"You're not getting nothing."
1473
01:08:35,379 --> 01:08:36,446
See, that's the problem
1474
01:08:36,480 --> 01:08:38,348
with the Lebanese mentality
this way.
1475
01:08:38,382 --> 01:08:41,084
They cannot accept
one person in charge.
1476
01:08:41,185 --> 01:08:43,453
They cannot.
It's against their genes.
1477
01:08:43,487 --> 01:08:47,090
Whether he allowed me or not,
I'm not gonna keep it, anyway.
1478
01:08:47,191 --> 01:08:48,758
Until I see something legal.
1479
01:08:48,792 --> 01:08:50,194
I don't care who it is.
1480
01:08:50,194 --> 01:08:51,495
You should've seen me with my...
1481
01:08:51,528 --> 01:08:53,197
I fired my kids one time.
1482
01:08:55,999 --> 01:08:57,301
If I do it with my family,
1483
01:08:57,334 --> 01:08:59,336
do you think I wouldn't
do it to some nincompoop?
1484
01:09:18,222 --> 01:09:19,789
I didn't do anything.
1485
01:09:19,823 --> 01:09:21,991
So things went with the wind.
1486
01:09:24,093 --> 01:09:27,030
I became the bad guy
of the Burger Baron.
1487
01:09:27,063 --> 01:09:29,766
And Rudy is the Godfather
of the Burger Baron.
1488
01:09:33,437 --> 01:09:35,038
OMAR: Although Sal Kemaldean
1489
01:09:35,071 --> 01:09:36,806
had bought into the rights
to oversee Burger Baron
1490
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:38,242
in western Canada,
1491
01:09:38,275 --> 01:09:41,911
that didn't give him ownership
over the brand's IP.
1492
01:09:41,945 --> 01:09:44,047
When the company's
president James learned
1493
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:45,982
his partner had been
misrepresenting himself
1494
01:09:46,015 --> 01:09:47,284
as the founder
1495
01:09:47,317 --> 01:09:50,086
and using his slogans
without permission,
1496
01:09:50,119 --> 01:09:52,289
he threatened Sal
with a cease-and-desist.
1497
01:09:53,857 --> 01:09:56,092
Soon after they resolved
their issues,
1498
01:09:56,125 --> 01:09:58,262
Sal resigned
and passed his company shares
1499
01:09:58,295 --> 01:10:01,164
down to his next of kin,
a Baroness.
1500
01:10:02,366 --> 01:10:04,834
My name is Tamara
Kemaleddine Anghel
1501
01:10:04,868 --> 01:10:06,503
and my relationship
to the Burger Baron
1502
01:10:06,536 --> 01:10:09,439
is I am now a 50% shareholder
1503
01:10:09,473 --> 01:10:10,940
of Burger Baron Canada.
1504
01:10:10,974 --> 01:10:12,609
Burger Baron's
been part of my life
1505
01:10:12,642 --> 01:10:14,411
for as far back
as I can remember.
1506
01:10:14,444 --> 01:10:17,180
I ran my own location
for 21 years
1507
01:10:17,213 --> 01:10:18,615
here in Lethbridge, as well.
1508
01:10:18,648 --> 01:10:20,417
So, it's just in our blood.
1509
01:10:20,450 --> 01:10:22,519
I think the biggest obstacle
1510
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:27,023
is trying to band
everyone together
1511
01:10:27,056 --> 01:10:29,926
to realize that things
could be stronger
1512
01:10:29,959 --> 01:10:32,362
as opposed to having them feel
1513
01:10:32,396 --> 01:10:34,264
that you're taking away
from them.
1514
01:10:34,298 --> 01:10:37,100
And I think it's just a lot
of old-school mentality,
1515
01:10:37,133 --> 01:10:38,201
Lebanese mentality.
1516
01:10:38,234 --> 01:10:39,969
"I'm the best,
and why do you think
1517
01:10:40,003 --> 01:10:42,306
"you can do something better
than I can do?"
1518
01:10:42,339 --> 01:10:43,607
Whereas I'm not trying
to tell them
1519
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:46,876
that I can do something better
than you can do,
1520
01:10:46,910 --> 01:10:48,712
but you've got ideas,
and I've got ideas,
1521
01:10:48,745 --> 01:10:50,614
and he's got ideas,
and she's got ideas,
1522
01:10:50,647 --> 01:10:51,981
and we put them all together,
1523
01:10:52,015 --> 01:10:54,518
and we can be something real
and something strong,
1524
01:10:54,551 --> 01:10:56,119
as opposed to just being a meme.
1525
01:10:56,152 --> 01:10:58,622
OMAR: How realistic
do you think it is
1526
01:10:58,655 --> 01:11:01,891
for the Burger Barons
to come together and agree,
1527
01:11:01,925 --> 01:11:05,895
not just to elect one Baron,
but one Baroness?
1528
01:11:05,929 --> 01:11:08,498
How likely,
at its present situation?
1529
01:11:09,899 --> 01:11:10,900
Not great.
1530
01:11:11,801 --> 01:11:13,703
But I believe in the future,
1531
01:11:13,737 --> 01:11:15,171
and the younger generation
1532
01:11:17,073 --> 01:11:19,042
have the ability
to see outside that box
1533
01:11:19,075 --> 01:11:21,578
and that could become a reality.
1534
01:11:21,611 --> 01:11:24,348
I just don't think that women
1535
01:11:24,348 --> 01:11:26,450
in the Lebanese culture,
are given enough opportunity
1536
01:11:26,483 --> 01:11:27,717
to be able to do that.
1537
01:11:27,751 --> 01:11:29,453
It's always the men
in the control
1538
01:11:29,486 --> 01:11:32,121
and the women
are the silent ones.
1539
01:11:32,155 --> 01:11:34,257
Even though they do have a pull
and they do have a say,
1540
01:11:34,358 --> 01:11:37,461
it's the men that are the face
of any business that's been run.
1541
01:11:37,494 --> 01:11:39,596
OMAR: In those eight years,
have you managed
1542
01:11:39,629 --> 01:11:42,231
to successfully franchise
a new Burger Baron?
1543
01:11:42,265 --> 01:11:43,400
-Not yet.
-No.
1544
01:11:43,433 --> 01:11:45,769
Do you think that owning
the copyright
1545
01:11:45,802 --> 01:11:48,137
then encouraged more knock-offs?
1546
01:11:48,171 --> 01:11:50,974
The knock-offs have been around
for a while as well.
1547
01:11:51,007 --> 01:11:53,176
They're not running
as a Burger Baron.
1548
01:11:53,209 --> 01:11:55,078
Some of them
have been Burger Barons
1549
01:11:55,111 --> 01:11:56,380
and change their names,
1550
01:11:56,380 --> 01:11:58,181
but I don't think
that there's any new,
1551
01:11:58,214 --> 01:12:00,650
recent abundance
of knock-offs, no.
1552
01:12:14,564 --> 01:12:16,433
The brand identity
is completely different.
1553
01:12:16,466 --> 01:12:18,535
The color schemes
are completely different.
1554
01:12:18,568 --> 01:12:21,104
And it's Burger Barons,
with an S.
1555
01:12:21,137 --> 01:12:23,072
It's not a Burger Baron.
1556
01:12:23,106 --> 01:12:27,310
I have faith that the brand
can first grow within Alberta,
1557
01:12:28,412 --> 01:12:31,214
and then other places,
internationally.
1558
01:12:31,247 --> 01:12:35,419
I have all the qualifications
to do that, humbly speaking.
1559
01:12:35,419 --> 01:12:37,086
I worked in Switzerland,
I worked in Germany,
1560
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:40,957
in Dubai and London
as a marketing director.
1561
01:12:40,990 --> 01:12:43,126
My childhood
was actually in Toronto.
1562
01:12:43,159 --> 01:12:44,594
My parents came down
1563
01:12:44,628 --> 01:12:47,096
to visit family friends
in Alberta a long time ago.
1564
01:12:47,130 --> 01:12:49,098
Every time I wanted
to come and have a burger,
1565
01:12:49,132 --> 01:12:51,134
I'll tell my parents,
"Let's go to Uncle Nazzi."
1566
01:12:51,167 --> 01:12:52,436
Little did I know,
1567
01:12:52,436 --> 01:12:53,470
I'm gonna come back to the place
1568
01:12:53,503 --> 01:12:55,004
that I held close to my heart.
1569
01:12:55,805 --> 01:12:57,607
I want to ensure
1570
01:12:57,641 --> 01:12:59,909
that the brand lives
in the hearts of the people
1571
01:12:59,943 --> 01:13:01,911
like it lived in my heart
as a child.
1572
01:13:01,945 --> 01:13:05,615
The newer menu is by far
much more sophisticated.
1573
01:13:05,649 --> 01:13:08,051
We've changed
the Mushroom Burger recipe.
1574
01:13:08,084 --> 01:13:09,886
So the secret recipes
for the rest of the burgers
1575
01:13:09,919 --> 01:13:11,455
isn't made available.
1576
01:13:11,488 --> 01:13:14,558
Unless they franchise with me,
then only will it be available.
1577
01:13:14,591 --> 01:13:17,226
I've actually trademarked
the logo and the identity,
1578
01:13:17,260 --> 01:13:18,828
and the menu, and the name.
1579
01:13:20,196 --> 01:13:22,331
I've been going back
and forth with my lawyer
1580
01:13:22,365 --> 01:13:23,967
on different aspects of it,
1581
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:27,637
and what can hold ground
and what can't.
1582
01:13:27,671 --> 01:13:29,038
So it's really up in the air.
1583
01:13:29,072 --> 01:13:30,807
OMAR: What about
the Burger Baron
1584
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:32,308
parody account on Twitter?
1585
01:13:32,341 --> 01:13:33,376
Yeah, I've...
1586
01:13:34,478 --> 01:13:35,912
-You're not familiar?
-Yes.
1587
01:13:35,945 --> 01:13:37,914
-Okay.
-I know about them. (CHUCKLES)
1588
01:13:41,485 --> 01:13:43,553
MAN 8: On Twitter,
there is a Burger Baron account,
1589
01:13:43,587 --> 01:13:46,355
and it's run by somebody,
eh, we don't know who.
1590
01:13:46,389 --> 01:13:48,558
He will tweet a lot of opinions,
1591
01:13:48,592 --> 01:13:50,393
profane and profound.
1592
01:13:50,494 --> 01:13:51,828
I love it. I think it's great.
1593
01:13:51,861 --> 01:13:53,329
It does give us a bad name.
1594
01:13:53,362 --> 01:13:55,198
And that's not who we are
and that's not what we promote.
1595
01:13:55,231 --> 01:13:56,533
I think it's pretty funny.
1596
01:13:56,566 --> 01:13:59,002
It's kind of raunchy,
it's not PG.
1597
01:13:59,035 --> 01:14:01,170
Not a lot of people know
1598
01:14:01,204 --> 01:14:04,641
that it's not
an official account.
1599
01:14:04,674 --> 01:14:06,342
You know,
we're a family-run business
1600
01:14:06,375 --> 01:14:07,677
and we support all franchises,
1601
01:14:07,711 --> 01:14:09,078
but obviously it hurts us.
1602
01:14:09,112 --> 01:14:11,280
It's not right to bash
another restaurant.
1603
01:14:11,314 --> 01:14:12,582
I know that's a fake account.
1604
01:14:12,616 --> 01:14:14,083
I'm aware. I'm aware of that.
1605
01:14:14,117 --> 01:14:15,652
Yes. I don't know who that is.
1606
01:14:15,685 --> 01:14:16,786
Is that you?
1607
01:14:16,820 --> 01:14:18,855
It makes us look like a bad guy,
1608
01:14:18,888 --> 01:14:20,624
that we're, oh, all about us
1609
01:14:20,657 --> 01:14:22,826
and only us,
and that's not true.
1610
01:14:22,859 --> 01:14:24,694
I find his humor funny.
1611
01:14:24,728 --> 01:14:25,862
Is that you?
1612
01:14:25,895 --> 01:14:27,363
No, Whallah, it's not me.
1613
01:14:27,396 --> 01:14:30,266
OMAR: It's not me, I swear.
1614
01:14:30,299 --> 01:14:32,168
I tried my best
to get the mystery person
1615
01:14:32,201 --> 01:14:34,103
to come forward, clear my name,
1616
01:14:34,137 --> 01:14:36,973
or at least explain
their obsession with the Baron.
1617
01:14:41,010 --> 01:14:42,846
I offered them
the full anonymity
1618
01:14:42,879 --> 01:14:45,348
of a government whistle-blower.
1619
01:14:45,381 --> 01:14:47,717
But even revealing themselves
to a handful of people
1620
01:14:47,751 --> 01:14:49,285
was apparently too risky.
1621
01:14:52,221 --> 01:14:54,891
However, I did manage
to get a few questions through.
1622
01:14:55,759 --> 01:14:57,026
OMAR: I can pass that to you,
1623
01:14:57,927 --> 01:14:59,428
and then you read the answers.
1624
01:15:01,565 --> 01:15:02,632
OMAR: What inspired you
to create
1625
01:15:02,666 --> 01:15:03,833
the Burger Baron parody account?
1626
01:15:03,867 --> 01:15:05,569
"It was clear that the Baron
needed a voice
1627
01:15:05,569 --> 01:15:08,071
"and someone for the loyal
customers to rally around.
1628
01:15:08,104 --> 01:15:10,406
"All the corporate accounts
are boring as shit
1629
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:11,575
"and ran by some..."
1630
01:15:11,575 --> 01:15:13,309
"...asshole with a popped collar
1631
01:15:13,342 --> 01:15:14,778
"and cotton candy vape pen..."
1632
01:15:14,811 --> 01:15:17,814
"...who has never set foot
in Alberta.
1633
01:15:17,847 --> 01:15:18,915
"People want..."
1634
01:15:18,948 --> 01:15:21,084
"...to get a dose
of the local culture
1635
01:15:21,117 --> 01:15:23,419
-"that makes it what it is."
-WOMAN: Aww.
1636
01:15:23,452 --> 01:15:25,955
It feels like he's trying
to hold on to a childhood.
1637
01:15:25,989 --> 01:15:27,390
"When did you start
picking fights
1638
01:15:27,423 --> 01:15:29,593
"with other fast food chains
on Twitter?"
1639
01:15:29,626 --> 01:15:31,628
"Look, the Baron has always
been fair to Harvey's,
1640
01:15:31,661 --> 01:15:32,729
"but the rest can..."
1641
01:15:32,762 --> 01:15:33,797
"...fuck right off.
1642
01:15:33,830 --> 01:15:35,064
"The social media manager
1643
01:15:35,098 --> 01:15:37,133
"posing as a redhead
or the clown
1644
01:15:37,166 --> 01:15:38,835
"trying to bite back
every now and then,
1645
01:15:38,868 --> 01:15:39,936
"but they're restrained by..."
1646
01:15:39,969 --> 01:15:41,404
"...the corporate
responsibility..."
1647
01:15:41,437 --> 01:15:43,339
"...and a properly
trademarked brand."
1648
01:15:43,372 --> 01:15:45,408
OMAR: "So what is
your actual opinion
1649
01:15:45,441 --> 01:15:46,743
"of Burger Baron food?"
1650
01:15:46,776 --> 01:15:48,444
"There isn't a Burger
Baron joint in Alberta
1651
01:15:48,477 --> 01:15:49,979
"with more history
and a devoted loyal following
1652
01:15:50,013 --> 01:15:51,080
"than the Baron."
1653
01:15:51,114 --> 01:15:52,315
"And for good reason.
1654
01:15:52,348 --> 01:15:56,019
"Not many people
can name their favorite..."
1655
01:15:56,052 --> 01:15:57,954
"...McMonstrosity. (CHUCKLES)
1656
01:15:57,987 --> 01:15:59,322
"But all Baron junkies can name
1657
01:15:59,355 --> 01:16:00,690
"the exact Burger Baron order
1658
01:16:00,724 --> 01:16:02,626
"they would get
and from what location."
1659
01:16:02,626 --> 01:16:04,628
"And if you're lucky enough
to have one
1660
01:16:04,628 --> 01:16:06,095
"that sells fried chicken..."
1661
01:16:06,129 --> 01:16:07,764
-Which we do over here.
-(LAUGHS)
1662
01:16:07,797 --> 01:16:10,066
"Not sure why
you would ever leave.
1663
01:16:10,099 --> 01:16:12,168
"My death row meal
would easily be the fritters,
1664
01:16:12,201 --> 01:16:13,502
"fries and double mush..."
1665
01:16:13,536 --> 01:16:15,639
"...with the biggest bucket
of gravy they got."
1666
01:16:15,639 --> 01:16:18,207
No, the gravy is great.
We make our own gravy.
1667
01:16:18,241 --> 01:16:20,910
"Long live Jewel
of the Gravy District."
1668
01:16:26,315 --> 01:16:27,416
Yeah.
1669
01:16:28,484 --> 01:16:30,053
Obviously, he...
1670
01:16:32,321 --> 01:16:33,957
He holds Burger Baron
in his heart,
1671
01:16:33,990 --> 01:16:36,660
but I just think
he goes about it
1672
01:16:36,660 --> 01:16:38,194
quite disrespectful
to Burger Baron.
1673
01:16:38,227 --> 01:16:40,964
OMAR: There is a certain
subset of people
1674
01:16:40,997 --> 01:16:44,734
for whom the parody account
is actually good advertising.
1675
01:16:44,768 --> 01:16:48,471
They kind of love the fact
that the Burger Baron
1676
01:16:48,504 --> 01:16:51,675
has been a bit of a shitshow.
1677
01:16:51,675 --> 01:16:53,877
I have no idea what
the appeal to that would be.
1678
01:16:53,910 --> 01:16:55,679
DONOVAN: Because it's been
a photocopy
1679
01:16:55,679 --> 01:16:57,280
of a photocopy of a print
1680
01:16:57,313 --> 01:16:58,581
of a photocopy of a photo
1681
01:16:58,682 --> 01:17:01,284
that somebody took
on their Polaroid,
1682
01:17:01,317 --> 01:17:02,752
there's all these variations.
1683
01:17:02,786 --> 01:17:04,821
And I don't know
if that's part of the charm.
1684
01:17:04,854 --> 01:17:07,123
ALADEAN: I've talked people,
tried to explain it,
1685
01:17:07,156 --> 01:17:09,458
because if someone sees me
with a tattoo of it,
1686
01:17:09,492 --> 01:17:11,127
they're like,
"What the hell is that?"
1687
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:12,962
I'm like, "Yeah, no,
it's a burger and it's good,
1688
01:17:12,996 --> 01:17:15,331
"but it's spongy,
so it's kind of weird.
1689
01:17:15,364 --> 01:17:16,733
"And then also they put
1690
01:17:16,766 --> 01:17:18,567
"Campbell's mushroom
soup concentrate
1691
01:17:18,601 --> 01:17:21,370
"on top of the burger,
which is awesome."
1692
01:17:21,404 --> 01:17:22,839
And people are like,
"That sounds terrible."
1693
01:17:22,872 --> 01:17:24,140
And I'm like,
"No, it's really good."
1694
01:17:24,173 --> 01:17:25,474
Burger Baron represents
1695
01:17:25,508 --> 01:17:29,078
every amazing small town
in Alberta
1696
01:17:29,112 --> 01:17:32,081
and what it's like to live
in a small town in Alberta.
1697
01:17:32,115 --> 01:17:34,718
That's part of the amazing story
that I think is awesome,
1698
01:17:34,751 --> 01:17:37,086
that it's this amazing
immigration story
1699
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:38,822
where people come here...
1700
01:17:38,855 --> 01:17:41,224
Could you imagine
living in Alberta in the '70s?
1701
01:17:41,257 --> 01:17:44,227
We're not the most progressive
place in the world.
1702
01:17:44,260 --> 01:17:46,863
I can't imagine how hard
that would have been
1703
01:17:46,896 --> 01:17:49,032
to be slightly different
than everybody else
1704
01:17:49,065 --> 01:17:50,166
and trying to fit in.
1705
01:17:50,199 --> 01:17:52,736
Well, you lived it.
1706
01:17:52,769 --> 01:17:55,438
OMAR: I wouldn't
exactly say that I lived it.
1707
01:17:55,471 --> 01:17:58,574
By the time I was born,
my family was well-established.
1708
01:17:58,607 --> 01:18:00,243
But my parents lived it.
1709
01:18:00,276 --> 01:18:02,511
It's just something
they don't like to talk about.
1710
01:18:02,545 --> 01:18:06,816
Did you guys ever face
any racism or discrimination?
1711
01:18:06,850 --> 01:18:08,017
-Never.
-Never.
1712
01:18:18,527 --> 01:18:19,863
TAMAM: Not a slap like you mean.
1713
01:18:19,896 --> 01:18:21,831
-(OMAR LAUGHS)
-You translate it to English,
1714
01:18:21,865 --> 01:18:22,966
it's not a...
1715
01:18:22,999 --> 01:18:24,834
OMAR: You've never slapped
a guy, okay.
1716
01:18:24,868 --> 01:18:26,770
But have you wanted
to slap a guy?
1717
01:18:29,238 --> 01:18:33,777
You don't think people ever
got upset or jealous
1718
01:18:33,777 --> 01:18:37,847
that immigrants coming
into this small town
1719
01:18:37,881 --> 01:18:41,918
and really, you know, ascending?
1720
01:19:03,106 --> 01:19:04,808
OMAR: I got the sense
from my parents
1721
01:19:04,808 --> 01:19:06,542
and the other
first generation Barons
1722
01:19:06,575 --> 01:19:08,945
that they were holding back
the truth a little bit,
1723
01:19:08,978 --> 01:19:11,414
either because they had
a business to protect
1724
01:19:11,447 --> 01:19:12,916
and they didn't want
to rock the boat,
1725
01:19:12,949 --> 01:19:16,619
or they just didn't want
to appear ungrateful.
1726
01:19:16,652 --> 01:19:18,154
When was the last time
you ate at Burger Baron?
1727
01:19:18,187 --> 01:19:19,823
I don't know. It's been a while,
1728
01:19:19,823 --> 01:19:23,192
but when my parents
came over last weekend,
1729
01:19:24,093 --> 01:19:25,228
I asked them to bring me
1730
01:19:25,261 --> 01:19:26,662
-a Mushroom Burger.
-(LAUGHS)
1731
01:19:26,695 --> 01:19:28,631
OMAR: Small towns
can be fertile ground
1732
01:19:28,664 --> 01:19:29,999
to start a successful business
1733
01:19:30,033 --> 01:19:32,335
and secure
your children's future.
1734
01:19:32,368 --> 01:19:34,137
But it can come
at another cost for them.
1735
01:19:34,871 --> 01:19:36,239
Thank you.
1736
01:19:36,272 --> 01:19:38,507
Nobody knows this better
than Nizar Watfa,
1737
01:19:38,541 --> 01:19:41,010
a Burger Baronet
who turned those hardships
1738
01:19:41,044 --> 01:19:42,311
into a persona.
1739
01:19:42,345 --> 01:19:43,947
ANNOUNCER: Ladies and gentlemen,
1740
01:19:43,980 --> 01:19:48,584
-Sheik Akbar Shabaz.
-(ALL CHEERING)
1741
01:19:48,617 --> 01:19:49,986
NIZAR: Well,
ever since I was a kid,
1742
01:19:50,019 --> 01:19:52,188
for as long as I can remember,
1743
01:19:52,221 --> 01:19:54,357
I had to deal with it
to some extent.
1744
01:19:54,390 --> 01:19:56,025
When I first moved to Lamont,
1745
01:19:56,059 --> 01:19:57,493
there was a quite a bit
of racism.
1746
01:19:57,526 --> 01:19:58,995
People would make fun
of my name.
1747
01:19:59,028 --> 01:20:02,631
And once they got to know me,
they kind of stopped,
1748
01:20:02,665 --> 01:20:04,834
but there was always
still one or two kids
1749
01:20:04,868 --> 01:20:06,602
that would say something
1750
01:20:06,635 --> 01:20:08,237
that was kind of
off-color or racist.
1751
01:20:09,805 --> 01:20:11,640
-To them, it was normal.
-Yeah.
1752
01:20:11,674 --> 01:20:13,209
And they would laugh,
kind of thing.
1753
01:20:13,242 --> 01:20:16,279
But whether it hurt me or not,
I wouldn't let people see it.
1754
01:20:16,312 --> 01:20:18,347
When you bring it up
with the Burger Baron owners,
1755
01:20:18,381 --> 01:20:19,949
it's a completely
different answer
1756
01:20:19,983 --> 01:20:21,717
based on the generation you ask.
1757
01:20:21,750 --> 01:20:25,688
NIZAR: I think that a lot
of it had to do with...
1758
01:20:25,721 --> 01:20:28,024
Maybe they didn't know
1759
01:20:28,057 --> 01:20:29,392
that you can say something.
1760
01:20:29,425 --> 01:20:32,295
My dad was always worried
about us
1761
01:20:32,328 --> 01:20:34,197
because we're the only minority
1762
01:20:34,230 --> 01:20:35,965
in a small farm town, right?
1763
01:20:35,999 --> 01:20:37,833
So just to keep us safe,
1764
01:20:37,867 --> 01:20:40,536
it was easier just to keep us
in the restaurant.
1765
01:20:40,569 --> 01:20:43,739
My parents have
that old-school mentality
1766
01:20:43,772 --> 01:20:45,708
where it's like,
the family helps the family,
1767
01:20:45,741 --> 01:20:48,477
and it doesn't matter
what is going on.
1768
01:20:48,511 --> 01:20:51,047
But when you're a teenager
and whatever, like,
1769
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:53,917
work is the last thing
you want to do.
1770
01:20:53,950 --> 01:20:56,019
When people ask me,
"What was your first job?"
1771
01:20:56,052 --> 01:20:58,687
-I tell them it was slavery.
-(LAUGHS)
1772
01:20:58,721 --> 01:21:00,423
Because it felt like, you know,
1773
01:21:00,456 --> 01:21:03,259
they were just always
cracking the whip on me,
1774
01:21:03,292 --> 01:21:06,262
trying to get me to work
more, work harder,
1775
01:21:06,295 --> 01:21:08,965
but they're trying
to keep me out of trouble
1776
01:21:08,998 --> 01:21:12,235
and just make sure
that I have a good work ethic.
1777
01:21:12,268 --> 01:21:14,503
-Are you the oldest son?
-Mmm.
1778
01:21:14,537 --> 01:21:15,604
-You are?
-Yeah.
1779
01:21:15,638 --> 01:21:16,940
Do you think
that played a part in it?
1780
01:21:16,973 --> 01:21:19,675
Because my older brother and me,
1781
01:21:19,708 --> 01:21:21,277
we had very different
experiences
1782
01:21:21,310 --> 01:21:22,611
-with the Burger Baron.
-Yeah.
1783
01:21:22,645 --> 01:21:24,413
Where like, yeah,
I was working in it
1784
01:21:24,447 --> 01:21:26,082
at a young age,
1785
01:21:26,115 --> 01:21:28,484
but I think it was more
about just teaching me
1786
01:21:28,517 --> 01:21:29,986
about the value of work.
1787
01:21:30,019 --> 01:21:32,021
But with my brother,
he was clearly being groomed.
1788
01:21:32,055 --> 01:21:33,422
My dad would always say,
1789
01:21:33,456 --> 01:21:35,158
"When I'm not around,
you're the man of the house,
1790
01:21:35,191 --> 01:21:37,160
"you have to take care of things
1791
01:21:37,193 --> 01:21:39,095
"and make sure everybody
and everything's okay.
1792
01:21:39,128 --> 01:21:40,496
"This is your job."
1793
01:21:40,529 --> 01:21:42,031
(PAPER RUSTLING)
1794
01:21:43,732 --> 01:21:48,537
OMAR: So, my brother took over
the restaurant in 2008.
1795
01:21:48,571 --> 01:21:50,773
He wanted
to take the opportunity
1796
01:21:50,806 --> 01:21:52,375
to do his own thing with it,
1797
01:21:52,408 --> 01:21:55,144
change the name,
and it surprised me.
1798
01:21:55,178 --> 01:21:59,048
There was not a moment
in my life
1799
01:21:59,082 --> 01:22:01,985
where I thought
about running the restaurant,
1800
01:22:01,985 --> 01:22:03,052
not even...
1801
01:22:03,086 --> 01:22:05,554
Not even a hypothetical.
1802
01:22:05,588 --> 01:22:08,891
I appreciate the fact
that it did so much
1803
01:22:08,992 --> 01:22:11,627
for my family
and me, personally.
1804
01:22:11,660 --> 01:22:14,563
I went to college
without any student loans.
1805
01:22:14,597 --> 01:22:16,565
I came out debt-free.
1806
01:22:16,599 --> 01:22:18,234
Why? Because of Burger Baron.
1807
01:22:18,267 --> 01:22:20,703
There were some cool perks
to it as well.
1808
01:22:20,736 --> 01:22:22,771
Nothing will win over
friends more
1809
01:22:22,805 --> 01:22:26,209
than being able to order
a pizza to their house
1810
01:22:26,242 --> 01:22:27,310
when you've got the munchies,
1811
01:22:27,343 --> 01:22:29,878
and have it there
in half an hour, free.
1812
01:22:29,912 --> 01:22:31,647
Just saying.
1813
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:33,816
At the same time,
the Burger Baron
1814
01:22:33,849 --> 01:22:36,152
can be like a prison sometimes.
1815
01:22:36,185 --> 01:22:37,920
And I don't judge
my parents for it
1816
01:22:38,021 --> 01:22:40,589
because I know that they had
the right priorities.
1817
01:22:40,623 --> 01:22:42,125
But now that I have kids,
1818
01:22:42,158 --> 01:22:43,826
I can't imagine
1819
01:22:43,859 --> 01:22:46,262
how that would weigh
on my conscience,
1820
01:22:46,295 --> 01:22:49,632
to miss out on the things
that they're passionate about.
1821
01:22:50,433 --> 01:22:51,767
I don't think we actually
1822
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:53,936
have ever really sat down
and talked
1823
01:22:54,037 --> 01:22:56,039
about what we wanted
to do with our lives.
1824
01:22:57,440 --> 01:22:59,042
We're coming up to it.
1825
01:22:59,042 --> 01:23:01,310
Here it is. I haven't
seen that sign in a while.
1826
01:23:11,054 --> 01:23:13,489
Was it hard for you
1827
01:23:13,522 --> 01:23:15,324
to dishonor your family's legacy
1828
01:23:15,358 --> 01:23:18,427
-by calling it "Boondocks"?
-The Boondocks Grill?
1829
01:23:18,461 --> 01:23:21,064
No. I didn't really want
a whole lot to do
1830
01:23:21,064 --> 01:23:22,098
with that name.
1831
01:23:22,131 --> 01:23:23,766
Nothing against
the Burger Barons.
1832
01:23:23,799 --> 01:23:25,568
I love Burger Baron food.
1833
01:23:25,601 --> 01:23:27,436
I love walking
into a Burger Baron,
1834
01:23:27,470 --> 01:23:28,937
but it needed to be my own.
1835
01:23:28,971 --> 01:23:31,274
There's that nostalgic feeling
when you're driving
1836
01:23:31,307 --> 01:23:33,542
through a small town,
a Prairie town,
1837
01:23:33,576 --> 01:23:34,610
and you see a Burger Baron.
1838
01:23:34,643 --> 01:23:35,944
You can walk in there,
1839
01:23:35,978 --> 01:23:38,114
and it's like walking through
a time machine.
1840
01:23:38,147 --> 01:23:41,117
I just didn't want that.
1841
01:23:41,150 --> 01:23:44,087
I wanted the town
to have something
1842
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:46,355
that was a little more modern.
1843
01:23:46,389 --> 01:23:48,091
We wanted to have a place
1844
01:23:48,091 --> 01:23:52,595
where people can meet for work,
they can come on a date,
1845
01:23:52,628 --> 01:23:55,098
maybe something closer
to the city than a small town.
1846
01:23:55,098 --> 01:23:56,599
When did you realize
1847
01:23:56,632 --> 01:23:59,102
that you were being groomed
1848
01:23:59,102 --> 01:24:01,104
to take over
the family restaurant?
1849
01:24:01,137 --> 01:24:02,238
I had no desire to work
anywhere else
1850
01:24:02,271 --> 01:24:03,706
when I was younger.
1851
01:24:03,739 --> 01:24:05,608
I didn't want to work
for someone that I didn't know,
1852
01:24:05,641 --> 01:24:07,343
I'd rather work for my dad.
1853
01:24:07,376 --> 01:24:09,345
I just assumed it was because
you were the eldest son.
1854
01:24:09,378 --> 01:24:11,314
That probably had something
to do with it, too.
1855
01:24:11,347 --> 01:24:13,149
When it comes to the oldest son,
1856
01:24:13,182 --> 01:24:14,983
I don't know
if they expect more.
1857
01:24:15,017 --> 01:24:16,352
They definitely expect more.
1858
01:24:16,385 --> 01:24:18,654
-Okay, they expected more.
-(LAUGHS)
1859
01:24:18,687 --> 01:24:21,324
I don't know if I wanted
any other choices.
1860
01:24:21,357 --> 01:24:22,891
But at some time,
1861
01:24:22,925 --> 01:24:24,893
you just accept
that if I want to provide
1862
01:24:24,927 --> 01:24:26,862
for the family
like Mom and Dad did,
1863
01:24:26,895 --> 01:24:28,897
then this was really
my one shot.
1864
01:24:29,832 --> 01:24:31,234
So when Dad tells me
1865
01:24:32,168 --> 01:24:34,270
in 2008 that the current owners
1866
01:24:35,138 --> 01:24:37,240
don't want to renew their lease,
1867
01:24:37,273 --> 01:24:41,344
and there's a possibility
of him selling,
1868
01:24:41,377 --> 01:24:42,578
that scares me,
1869
01:24:43,512 --> 01:24:46,515
knowing that my last chance
1870
01:24:46,549 --> 01:24:48,317
of having this as my own
1871
01:24:48,351 --> 01:24:49,518
could possibly be gone.
1872
01:24:49,552 --> 01:24:51,654
Did it bother you that I had
1873
01:24:51,687 --> 01:24:53,989
a lot more freedom
of choice, maybe,
1874
01:24:54,022 --> 01:24:56,659
with what I was going to do
with my life?
1875
01:24:56,692 --> 01:24:58,227
-A little bit, I guess.
-Yeah.
1876
01:24:58,261 --> 01:25:00,163
A little bit.
And I didn't understand
1877
01:25:00,163 --> 01:25:02,265
why you had these options,
1878
01:25:02,298 --> 01:25:04,767
but with me,
maybe I was already,
1879
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:05,968
like you said, groomed for it.
1880
01:25:06,001 --> 01:25:08,271
"He's already learned
these skills,
1881
01:25:08,304 --> 01:25:10,439
"might as well
take advantage of it."
1882
01:25:11,540 --> 01:25:12,808
OMAR: A funny thing happened
1883
01:25:12,841 --> 01:25:15,511
after my family's restaurant
was renamed.
1884
01:25:15,544 --> 01:25:17,846
Another immigrant
moved to High Prairie,
1885
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:19,648
bought up a rundown restaurant,
1886
01:25:19,682 --> 01:25:22,751
renovated it
and renamed it what else?
1887
01:25:22,785 --> 01:25:24,187
Burger Baron.
1888
01:25:24,187 --> 01:25:25,654
ALI: I know they're doing well,
and good for them.
1889
01:25:25,688 --> 01:25:27,523
I love to hear that story
of someone coming
1890
01:25:27,556 --> 01:25:29,992
from back home,
bringing their family here,
1891
01:25:30,025 --> 01:25:32,027
raising them
in the small community
1892
01:25:32,060 --> 01:25:33,696
where there isn't much
of an Arab community,
1893
01:25:33,729 --> 01:25:35,998
and doing their own thing
and being successful.
1894
01:25:36,031 --> 01:25:37,466
How could you not love
that story?
1895
01:25:37,500 --> 01:25:40,203
OMAR: It was one of the last
Burger Barons to open
1896
01:25:40,203 --> 01:25:42,104
made possible
only because the man
1897
01:25:42,205 --> 01:25:44,607
who started it,
and has since sold it,
1898
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:46,375
was a relative
of the Kemaldeans.
1899
01:25:46,409 --> 01:25:47,543
Let's try this milkshake.
1900
01:25:49,412 --> 01:25:51,280
That's a perfect milkshake.
Thank you.
1901
01:25:51,314 --> 01:25:52,381
You're welcome.
1902
01:25:53,649 --> 01:25:55,218
OMAR: The family's
exclusive rights
1903
01:25:55,218 --> 01:25:58,354
have only prevented
new Burger Barons from opening.
1904
01:25:58,387 --> 01:26:00,022
More importantly,
it's done nothing
1905
01:26:00,055 --> 01:26:02,024
to stop them from closing.
1906
01:26:02,057 --> 01:26:04,227
More than a third
of existing Burger Barons
1907
01:26:04,227 --> 01:26:05,828
have closed in the last decade.
1908
01:26:07,296 --> 01:26:10,433
Including Rudy's
last spot in Edmonton.
1909
01:26:10,466 --> 01:26:12,435
Including Sal
and his daughter Tamara's
1910
01:26:12,468 --> 01:26:14,337
three locations
in southern Alberta.
1911
01:26:15,070 --> 01:26:16,305
Including the last two
1912
01:26:16,339 --> 01:26:18,241
owned by the McDonnell family
in Regina.
1913
01:26:19,675 --> 01:26:20,943
As big box restaurants,
1914
01:26:20,976 --> 01:26:23,145
upscale casual dining
and foodie culture
1915
01:26:23,246 --> 01:26:25,248
encroached
on the humble hamburger,
1916
01:26:25,248 --> 01:26:27,783
it made a last ditch effort
to keep up with the trends.
1917
01:26:28,451 --> 01:26:29,485
Yep, definitely.
1918
01:26:29,518 --> 01:26:30,953
I'm a little bit nervous
about it.
1919
01:26:30,986 --> 01:26:33,155
I do believe my father
would be 100% on board with it.
1920
01:26:33,256 --> 01:26:35,458
OMAR: But the pivot to healthy
choices was not enough
1921
01:26:35,491 --> 01:26:36,859
to keep the doors open.
1922
01:26:39,662 --> 01:26:42,665
Starting a restaurant
in the '70s, '80s, '90s
1923
01:26:42,698 --> 01:26:44,400
just seemed
to be so much simpler.
1924
01:26:44,433 --> 01:26:45,734
Definitely easier.
1925
01:26:45,768 --> 01:26:47,736
It was much easier.
1926
01:26:47,770 --> 01:26:51,340
I was thinking I'll give them
empire of restaurants,
1927
01:26:52,275 --> 01:26:54,410
so they'll do very well.
1928
01:26:54,443 --> 01:26:55,978
And my grandsons,
1929
01:26:56,011 --> 01:26:58,514
I hope that do
the same thing I did.
1930
01:26:58,547 --> 01:27:00,916
Even if 50% what I did.
1931
01:27:00,949 --> 01:27:02,518
Now it's completely different.
1932
01:27:02,551 --> 01:27:04,487
It's harder, that's for sure.
1933
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:06,088
Everything's so over-saturated.
1934
01:27:06,121 --> 01:27:07,356
There's so many franchises now,
1935
01:27:07,390 --> 01:27:09,024
you can't even keep count
of them anymore.
1936
01:27:09,057 --> 01:27:12,295
And not to mention
costs going up.
1937
01:27:12,295 --> 01:27:14,162
It's just getting harder
and harder.
1938
01:27:14,196 --> 01:27:16,899
OMAR: It's not
just oversaturation,
1939
01:27:16,932 --> 01:27:19,868
but the hyper-industrialization
of the food industry.
1940
01:27:21,704 --> 01:27:24,072
Even if the Barons
could get their shit together,
1941
01:27:24,106 --> 01:27:26,509
they could never compete
with all the new chains
1942
01:27:26,542 --> 01:27:28,311
able to scale up
and spread globally
1943
01:27:28,311 --> 01:27:29,745
at record speed.
1944
01:27:32,114 --> 01:27:33,416
My kids were born,
1945
01:27:33,449 --> 01:27:36,585
and I was supposed
to take a year off,
1946
01:27:36,619 --> 01:27:39,488
but I didn't have the heart
to leave the kids.
1947
01:27:41,089 --> 01:27:42,124
Come on. Come on.
1948
01:27:43,326 --> 01:27:44,460
Okay.
1949
01:27:44,493 --> 01:27:45,794
You can always make more money,
1950
01:27:45,828 --> 01:27:46,962
you can't make more time.
1951
01:27:46,995 --> 01:27:48,130
And time always mattered to me
1952
01:27:48,163 --> 01:27:49,365
more than money.
1953
01:27:49,398 --> 01:27:51,033
I never did go back
to the restaurant.
1954
01:27:51,066 --> 01:27:55,103
RUDY: They got sick and tired
of selling hamburgers
1955
01:27:55,137 --> 01:27:57,640
and they wanted to spend time
with their families.
1956
01:27:57,673 --> 01:28:00,343
So I was...
I'm not gonna argue with them
1957
01:28:00,343 --> 01:28:01,877
if they want to work
something else.
1958
01:28:01,910 --> 01:28:04,046
For a few years now,
I've owned a finance company.
1959
01:28:04,079 --> 01:28:07,350
My brother and sister
ended up selling
1960
01:28:07,383 --> 01:28:10,353
and going into the corporate
world, as well, now.
1961
01:28:10,353 --> 01:28:12,888
There's good and bad
to that, you know?
1962
01:28:12,921 --> 01:28:15,858
It's good that, okay,
well, we can expand
1963
01:28:15,891 --> 01:28:18,361
to something different
and maybe better.
1964
01:28:18,361 --> 01:28:20,796
It's sad because it's kind of
like an end of an era.
1965
01:28:20,829 --> 01:28:21,897
RUDY: It's sad.
1966
01:28:21,930 --> 01:28:25,200
Everything's gonna have
an end to it.
1967
01:28:25,233 --> 01:28:27,570
This Burger Baron was like
a constant in your life?
1968
01:28:28,371 --> 01:28:29,505
Yeah, absolutely.
1969
01:28:29,538 --> 01:28:32,074
-Really?
-Yeah. It was like...
1970
01:28:32,107 --> 01:28:34,142
Pretty often. I don't know,
at least once a month.
1971
01:28:34,176 --> 01:28:36,211
-I was legitimately sad.
-Really?
1972
01:28:36,244 --> 01:28:38,647
Yeah. It was like a piece
of my childhood gone.
1973
01:28:38,681 --> 01:28:41,684
Did you feel like, "If only
I went there more often..."
1974
01:28:41,717 --> 01:28:42,918
-If only I, you know..."
-No.
1975
01:28:42,951 --> 01:28:45,521
I didn't feel
like I went there too little.
1976
01:28:45,554 --> 01:28:46,589
I think I went there
1977
01:28:46,622 --> 01:28:47,690
the maximum amount
I should have.
1978
01:28:47,723 --> 01:28:49,191
(LAUGHING)
1979
01:28:53,295 --> 01:28:55,531
DONOVAN: My niece
texts me and she says,
1980
01:28:55,564 --> 01:28:56,832
"Hey, you know
they're shutting down
1981
01:28:56,865 --> 01:28:59,234
"the Burger Baron
on the end of Whyte Avenue?"
1982
01:28:59,267 --> 01:29:02,004
And I was like, "No. Oh, no."
1983
01:29:02,037 --> 01:29:03,772
"We're gonna stop in
and we're gonna have a burger."
1984
01:29:03,806 --> 01:29:06,409
I'm talking to the owner.
He's in tears.
1985
01:29:06,409 --> 01:29:08,777
I see people coming in
and out, and they're crying.
1986
01:29:08,811 --> 01:29:10,012
And I'm like, "What the hell?
1987
01:29:10,045 --> 01:29:11,614
"This is a burger joint,
and everybody's crying?"
1988
01:29:11,647 --> 01:29:14,683
There's something going on here
that I'm not getting.
1989
01:29:14,717 --> 01:29:16,018
"Why is everybody so upset?"
1990
01:29:16,051 --> 01:29:18,787
And they're like,
"Well, that you care enough."
1991
01:29:18,821 --> 01:29:19,955
And I'm choking up.
1992
01:29:19,988 --> 01:29:21,624
As my kids and I are leaving,
1993
01:29:21,657 --> 01:29:24,092
I look and I see the sign
in my rear-view mirror
1994
01:29:24,126 --> 01:29:25,494
as we're pulling out,
1995
01:29:25,528 --> 01:29:28,431
and I stop and I'm like,
"I need to be a part of this.
1996
01:29:28,464 --> 01:29:29,798
"This is too good."
1997
01:29:31,434 --> 01:29:32,935
So, first thing, I get it home,
1998
01:29:32,968 --> 01:29:34,437
I pressure-wash it
in my backyard.
1999
01:29:34,437 --> 01:29:37,440
All I can smell is hamburgers.
2000
01:29:37,473 --> 01:29:40,175
The grease is just lifting off
with the hot water.
2001
01:29:40,208 --> 01:29:42,445
And I'm like,
"I've made the right decision."
2002
01:29:42,478 --> 01:29:43,779
Can you tell us
how much you paid for it?
2003
01:29:43,812 --> 01:29:45,948
Twenty Mushroom Burgers' worth.
2004
01:29:45,981 --> 01:29:48,517
Honestly, I think
Burger Baron is closing
2005
01:29:48,551 --> 01:29:50,018
because it's not fashionable.
2006
01:29:50,052 --> 01:29:52,020
People see the Burger Baron,
2007
01:29:52,054 --> 01:29:54,457
but they don't see
the Burger Baron.
2008
01:29:54,490 --> 01:29:56,224
They forget to appreciate
2009
01:29:56,258 --> 01:29:57,626
what it really is.
2010
01:29:57,660 --> 01:29:59,027
And it's that burger.
2011
01:29:59,061 --> 01:30:00,362
It's that logo.
2012
01:30:00,463 --> 01:30:02,197
It's that smell.
2013
01:30:02,230 --> 01:30:03,999
And even more, it's that family
2014
01:30:04,032 --> 01:30:07,503
that came from the other side
of the world.
2015
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:12,007
OMAR: Changing consumer values
2016
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:14,843
no doubt has a lot to do
with the closures,
2017
01:30:14,877 --> 01:30:17,480
but there's a bigger problem
they're facing.
2018
01:30:17,513 --> 01:30:21,550
The next of kin,
the Baronets and Baronetesses.
2019
01:30:21,584 --> 01:30:24,553
JUDY: I wouldn't be buying stock
in Burger Baron.
2020
01:30:24,587 --> 01:30:25,721
How many kids
2021
01:30:27,089 --> 01:30:29,224
want to work in Burger Baron,
2022
01:30:29,257 --> 01:30:31,159
take it over, run it
2023
01:30:31,193 --> 01:30:33,028
and face all the competition
2024
01:30:33,061 --> 01:30:34,597
that they have
in the drive-throughs
2025
01:30:34,630 --> 01:30:36,064
and the this and the that?
2026
01:30:36,098 --> 01:30:39,935
How many of those sons
of Burger Baron families
2027
01:30:39,968 --> 01:30:41,870
want to run a Burger Baron?
2028
01:30:41,904 --> 01:30:43,906
How many of them
can even talk their own kids
2029
01:30:43,939 --> 01:30:45,541
into working there
during the summer?
2030
01:30:45,574 --> 01:30:48,243
I played a lot of soccer
growing up,
2031
01:30:48,276 --> 01:30:50,245
and I honestly
don't remember one game
2032
01:30:50,278 --> 01:30:53,115
my parents
ever watched me play, right?
2033
01:30:53,148 --> 01:30:55,450
Because they're always
in the restaurant, they can't.
2034
01:30:55,484 --> 01:30:56,885
They're not gonna leave
the restaurant
2035
01:30:56,919 --> 01:30:59,221
at 5:00 or 6:00 during rush hour
2036
01:30:59,254 --> 01:31:01,757
to go watch a hour soccer game.
2037
01:31:01,790 --> 01:31:04,627
Even though the soccer field
is just down the road, still.
2038
01:31:04,660 --> 01:31:07,195
You're just trapped.
You're here all the time.
2039
01:31:08,130 --> 01:31:09,364
You can't get away.
2040
01:31:09,397 --> 01:31:10,866
-It's a sacrifice you're making.
-Yeah.
2041
01:31:10,899 --> 01:31:13,869
Like your family, your life,
everything, right?
2042
01:31:13,902 --> 01:31:15,538
For the restaurant.
2043
01:31:15,538 --> 01:31:17,706
It's drilled in your head
2044
01:31:17,740 --> 01:31:20,008
that you need to feel guilty
2045
01:31:20,042 --> 01:31:21,677
if you try to do anything else.
2046
01:31:21,710 --> 01:31:24,312
But with this new generation,
2047
01:31:24,346 --> 01:31:25,548
they don't have that.
2048
01:31:25,548 --> 01:31:27,049
There's hope for them.
2049
01:31:27,082 --> 01:31:28,316
JUDY: They have
their own dreams,
2050
01:31:28,350 --> 01:31:30,719
and they're not the dreams
of their parents.
2051
01:31:30,753 --> 01:31:32,655
And you only have to be
a parent and a grandparent
2052
01:31:32,688 --> 01:31:34,289
for about five minutes
2053
01:31:34,322 --> 01:31:35,891
to learn the truth of that.
2054
01:31:35,924 --> 01:31:38,226
My dream is not your dream.
2055
01:31:38,260 --> 01:31:42,130
I was in my second year
of political science,
2056
01:31:42,164 --> 01:31:44,299
and then he had
his heart attack.
2057
01:31:44,332 --> 01:31:46,569
And, you know,
especially with us,
2058
01:31:46,569 --> 01:31:49,905
it's like, I'm the only boy
in the family
2059
01:31:49,938 --> 01:31:52,340
and that's kind of
a huge responsibility
2060
01:31:52,374 --> 01:31:54,242
in Lebanese culture, especially.
2061
01:31:56,178 --> 01:31:58,013
So, I don't know,
I kind of seen it
2062
01:31:58,046 --> 01:32:03,051
as a duty of mine
to just step in.
2063
01:32:03,085 --> 01:32:04,720
My dad just had a heart attack.
2064
01:32:04,753 --> 01:32:08,090
So with that happening,
2065
01:32:08,824 --> 01:32:10,926
I know my dad
2066
01:32:10,959 --> 01:32:12,995
would sell the restaurant
yesterday if he could.
2067
01:32:13,996 --> 01:32:15,463
But the problem is my mom
2068
01:32:15,497 --> 01:32:18,100
still wants to go hard,
go at it.
2069
01:32:18,133 --> 01:32:19,968
She would sell it
if the right offer came,
2070
01:32:20,002 --> 01:32:21,970
but she doesn't want
to give it away.
2071
01:32:22,004 --> 01:32:25,173
Alexa, four minute
and 30 seconds time.
2072
01:32:25,207 --> 01:32:27,810
People who run those things
are not about give them up.
2073
01:32:28,677 --> 01:32:29,878
But they will have to
2074
01:32:30,946 --> 01:32:31,947
either give them up
2075
01:32:33,048 --> 01:32:35,651
or find somebody else
to take them over.
2076
01:32:35,684 --> 01:32:36,719
And there's the problem.
2077
01:33:09,451 --> 01:33:12,054
I remember Mom waking me up
and she's like,
2078
01:33:12,087 --> 01:33:14,657
"You need to go to work,
your dad doesn't feel well.
2079
01:33:15,457 --> 01:33:16,659
"Something is wrong.
2080
01:33:16,659 --> 01:33:17,826
We're taking him
to the hospital."
2081
01:33:18,961 --> 01:33:20,863
So I came in, I see my dad,
2082
01:33:20,896 --> 01:33:21,964
he didn't look great.
2083
01:33:21,997 --> 01:33:23,298
It wasn't long after
2084
01:33:23,331 --> 01:33:25,100
where Mom called us and said,
2085
01:33:25,133 --> 01:33:27,135
"Hey, it's pretty serious.
2086
01:33:27,169 --> 01:33:28,303
"He'd had a heart attack.
2087
01:33:28,336 --> 01:33:31,940
"They're flying him
out to Edmonton."
2088
01:33:31,974 --> 01:33:35,077
And I remember going
to the hospital,
2089
01:33:35,110 --> 01:33:36,779
and he was on the gurney there,
2090
01:33:36,812 --> 01:33:38,947
(VOICE SHAKING)
and just looking in his eyes,
2091
01:33:38,981 --> 01:33:43,085
and thinking this might be
the last time I see him.
2092
01:33:43,118 --> 01:33:44,953
And it happened
at the restaurant.
2093
01:33:46,088 --> 01:33:49,491
So, it wasn't easy to see.
2094
01:33:49,524 --> 01:33:50,759
(VOICE BREAKING) You know, it...
2095
01:33:52,928 --> 01:33:54,596
Talked to him
after they did the procedure
2096
01:33:54,697 --> 01:33:55,831
and they put some stents in him.
2097
01:33:55,864 --> 01:33:57,332
He said he felt like a new man.
2098
01:33:57,365 --> 01:33:59,501
He'd come and he'd still want
to work just as hard.
2099
01:33:59,534 --> 01:34:00,936
He'd come in at 6:00,
7:00 in the morning
2100
01:34:00,969 --> 01:34:02,270
to start organizing or cleaning
2101
01:34:02,304 --> 01:34:03,739
or doing whatever
he wanted to do.
2102
01:34:03,772 --> 01:34:05,808
OMAR: Yeah. Are you trying
to do things differently
2103
01:34:05,841 --> 01:34:07,710
from the way our parents did?
2104
01:34:07,743 --> 01:34:10,145
How are you protecting yourself
against that?
2105
01:34:10,178 --> 01:34:11,980
ALI: I don't know
if I'm protecting myself.
2106
01:34:12,014 --> 01:34:13,882
Five years ago,
we started closing on Sundays
2107
01:34:13,916 --> 01:34:16,852
to have some sort of normalcy
with the family.
2108
01:34:16,885 --> 01:34:18,721
So they don't kind of grow up
2109
01:34:18,721 --> 01:34:20,856
just knowing
the restaurant life.
2110
01:34:20,889 --> 01:34:22,991
Would you want your kids
to take over the restaurant?
2111
01:34:23,025 --> 01:34:24,993
You have big dreams
for your kids,
2112
01:34:25,027 --> 01:34:27,429
but there's nothing wrong
with the restaurant life.
2113
01:34:27,462 --> 01:34:30,265
I know it's hard.
I know it's demanding.
2114
01:34:30,298 --> 01:34:32,500
I know you're here all the time.
2115
01:34:32,534 --> 01:34:34,903
And it becomes...
2116
01:34:34,937 --> 01:34:38,006
The restaurant becomes
like a second wife
2117
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:40,876
or a family kind of thing,
a second family.
2118
01:34:40,909 --> 01:34:42,344
No, a second wife.
2119
01:34:42,377 --> 01:34:43,545
-(LAUGHING)
-Obviously.
2120
01:34:43,578 --> 01:34:44,747
One of my four wives.
2121
01:34:46,314 --> 01:34:48,884
I know it's demanding,
2122
01:34:50,118 --> 01:34:51,553
but it's not so bad.
2123
01:34:52,254 --> 01:34:53,321
It really isn't.
2124
01:34:54,456 --> 01:34:56,358
I've been able to provide
for the family
2125
01:34:56,391 --> 01:34:58,927
in a community that I love,
that I grew up in.
2126
01:34:58,961 --> 01:34:59,962
It's what I know.
2127
01:35:01,396 --> 01:35:02,664
I guess it's what I love.
2128
01:35:19,982 --> 01:35:22,217
OMAR: Because of a popular
little burger shack
2129
01:35:22,250 --> 01:35:23,685
that went rogue,
2130
01:35:23,786 --> 01:35:26,154
we were able to secure
a future for ourselves
2131
01:35:26,188 --> 01:35:27,455
and our children,
2132
01:35:27,489 --> 01:35:29,157
reunite with our families
2133
01:35:29,191 --> 01:35:32,060
and get loved ones out
of a war zone.
2134
01:35:32,094 --> 01:35:34,529
I wondered if Jack McDonnell
ever had an idea
2135
01:35:34,562 --> 01:35:36,431
of what his true legacy
really was.
2136
01:35:38,066 --> 01:35:40,302
TERRY: He wouldn't
have realized that.
2137
01:35:40,335 --> 01:35:42,871
I'm learning
a lot right now, today.
2138
01:35:42,905 --> 01:35:46,241
I didn't know there's near
as many in the family
2139
01:35:46,274 --> 01:35:47,810
as you've suggested.
2140
01:35:47,843 --> 01:35:49,544
Like, I think that's great
2141
01:35:49,577 --> 01:35:52,714
that a group of people,
or individually,
2142
01:35:52,815 --> 01:35:55,283
they do well
because of the Burger Baron.
2143
01:36:17,139 --> 01:36:18,740
OMAR: There may not be
as many Burger Barons
2144
01:36:18,841 --> 01:36:19,908
as there used to be,
2145
01:36:19,942 --> 01:36:21,609
but were it not
for the immigrants,
2146
01:36:21,643 --> 01:36:23,578
refugees, and foreign workers,
2147
01:36:23,611 --> 01:36:25,347
there may not be
any left at all.
2148
01:36:26,114 --> 01:36:28,450
(UPBEAT SONG PLAYING)
2149
01:36:33,889 --> 01:36:35,423
OMAR: Wait, wait, wait, wait.
2150
01:36:35,457 --> 01:36:36,591
Don't you want to know
2151
01:36:36,624 --> 01:36:38,293
how the Mushroom Burger
sauce is made?
2152
01:36:38,326 --> 01:36:40,062
So, we've got Campbell's
Cream of Mushroom Soup.
2153
01:36:42,130 --> 01:36:45,167
OMAR: Oh, man, I remember
that can opener.
2154
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:46,969
It's the same one
from when we were kids.
2155
01:36:47,002 --> 01:36:48,436
We're gonna take
our Tabasco sauce,
2156
01:36:48,470 --> 01:36:50,672
we're gonna add 10 splashes.
2157
01:36:50,705 --> 01:36:53,241
Worcestershire sauce,
we're gonna add four to it.
2158
01:36:54,877 --> 01:36:56,478
Soy sauce, a little bit more.
2159
01:36:58,981 --> 01:37:01,283
And then we're just
gonna mix it up.
2160
01:37:01,316 --> 01:37:03,351
OMAR: So, really, it's just
these four ingredients?
2161
01:37:03,385 --> 01:37:05,153
ALI: This is it.
There's not much to it.
2162
01:37:05,187 --> 01:37:07,890
OMAR: No cumin, no sumac,
no Lebanese spices?
2163
01:37:07,923 --> 01:37:10,025
ALI: Not a single
Lebanese spice.
2164
01:37:10,058 --> 01:37:12,127
-(OMAR LAUGHS)
-It's not a pretty sauce,
2165
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:14,296
but it tastes fantastic
on that burger.
2166
01:37:14,329 --> 01:37:15,530
* Burger Baron
2167
01:37:17,132 --> 01:37:19,701
* We're the hot spot
right here in town
2168
01:37:19,734 --> 01:37:22,737
* People know our value
for miles around
2169
01:37:22,770 --> 01:37:25,540
* At Burger Baron
you'll be amazed
2170
01:37:25,573 --> 01:37:28,210
* We'll take you back
to the good old days
2171
01:37:28,243 --> 01:37:29,411
* Great big burgers
2172
01:37:29,444 --> 01:37:30,946
* And delicious fries
2173
01:37:30,979 --> 01:37:32,080
* We offer so much
2174
01:37:32,114 --> 01:37:34,049
* You won't believe your eyes
2175
01:37:34,082 --> 01:37:35,117
* You're gonna love
2176
01:37:35,150 --> 01:37:36,985
* What we do for you
2177
01:37:37,019 --> 01:37:38,653
* We're serving value
2178
01:37:38,686 --> 01:37:40,355
* At Burger Baron
2179
01:37:42,090 --> 01:37:45,460
(UPBEAT SONG RESUMES)
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