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- In the criminal
justice system,
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the people are represented
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by two separate, yet
equally important, groups.
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The police, who
investigate crime,
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and the District Attorneys,
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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- Oh, I can feel it.
It's gonna happen.
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It's just a matter of time.
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- I know it's crazy right now
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and there are all sorts
of rumors swirling.
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- No, it's more than that.
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People are already
digging into my research.
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Every article, every
book I ever published.
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One missed quote.
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One overlooked source.
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- They can't accuse
you of plagiarism
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if you're not a plagiarist.
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- Sure, they can.
That's what's happening.
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It's how the bastards
get their payback.
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- Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, right here.
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- Hey!
- Hold on.
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- Get away from there.
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Yo, what you gonna do?
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- Better leave, bro.
- Hey!
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I'm calling the police!
- Whatever.
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- Mind yourself.
- Uh-huh.
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- What is going
on? Are you OK?
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- Go ahead, bro.
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- Oh, it's just a bunch of kids.
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- Unbelievable.
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- What is it?
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- Nothing.
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I, uh...
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I just need a hot shower.
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- Want a hot cup of tea?
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- That sounds delightful.
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- Nate?
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Nate, are you OK?
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- Nathan?
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- Nathan?
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Nathan?
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- I love you.
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- 911, what's your emergency?
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- I think something horrible
just happened to my husband.
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- Feels good to be
back in the game.
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- Yeah, I bet.
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- My first homicide case
in almost three years.
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- Yeah?
- Yeah.
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- You want to say it?
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- What have we got?
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- Two knife wounds to the chest.
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Name is Nathan Alpert.
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Business card in his wallet
says he's the president
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of Hudson University.
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- President, big job.
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- Still had his wallet, huh?
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- Watch and cell phone, too.
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- "Traitor"?
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- Sounds personal.
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- Any witnesses?
- One.
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He was across the street,
heard some commotion.
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Looked over and saw
someone tall, thin,
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in a camo parka, running west.
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- All units, a man
in a military-type
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camouflage jacket was
just seen walking east
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on Lispenard between
Church and Broadway.
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- Police. Don't move.
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- I can move wherever
I want to move.
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- Hey, hey, hey.
Drop the attitude.
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We just want to talk
to you. All right?
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- Knife.
- Hey, hey.
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You got to stop moving
and put that knife down
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for your safety and ours.
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You understand what I'm saying?
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- Stop moving and
put down that knife.
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- I didn't do nothing, so
I ain't dropping nothing.
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- Drop that knife
or I will shoot you.
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- Hey, Vince, stand down.
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Nobody needs to get
shot tonight, right?
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Just put the knife down.
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- Put down that knife
or I will shoot you!
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- Take him down to the 2-7.
- Got it. Come on.
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- Hey, man. Don't
ever do that again.
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- Do what again?
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- Play the hero
like that on my tab.
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No.
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- I don't know anyone
with that name.
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And I don't know any presidents.
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- Oh.
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How about that knife?
You know that knife?
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It has blood on it.
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Your jacket does too.
- Found the jacket in the trash.
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Knife was in the pocket.
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That's the truth.
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The inconvenient truth.
- Inconvenient?
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How's that?
- I know how y'all roll.
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Love putting Black men in prison
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for crimes they don't commit,
for thoughts they never had,
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for lives they never lived.
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- I'm not sure I understand
what you're saying, Jordan.
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- I'm saying I
know Tupac is alive
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and that the government
is hiding him.
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- Um, hang tight for
a second, Jordan.
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We're gonna...
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we'll be right back.
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- Best I can tell,
he's telling the truth
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about the jacket, not Tupac.
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- So Tupac is definitely dead,
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and that's definitely
not his jacket.
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- Which means it's
probably not his knife.
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- And likely not his
lip balm, either,
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especially with a fancy name
like "Paradies," Paradise?
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- All right, let's get the
evidence over to the lab.
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I'm gonna go talk to Jordan,
try to get him some help.
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And I'm sorry to say,
you two need to go
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and notify President
Alpert's wife.
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- OK.
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- Vince.
- Yeah.
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- I'm glad you're here.
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- Yeah, me too.
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Thanks for looking out.
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- Oh, thank you.
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I, uh, was on the phone with him
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when it happened.
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I...
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I heard him die.
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- I am so sorry, ma'am.
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We just have a few
questions for you.
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If that's OK.
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- Ms. Alpert, um,
could you tell us
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what you and your husband were
talking about on the phone?
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- He thought, uh, people
were beginning to delve
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into his research to look
for examples of plagiarism.
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- Popular tactic these days.
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- What kind of mood was he in?
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- Uh, paranoid.
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Frustrated.
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Exhausted.
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It's been a long few months.
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He was under a microscope.
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There was so much pressure
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about what to say,
about what not to say.
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- You're referring to
the Israeli conflict.
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- Nate was a...
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a firm believer in free speech.
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He didn't...
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he didn't think it was
his job to articulate
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his personal opinions.
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He thought it might
disrupt campus discourse.
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- I can't imagine what
you're going through.
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We just have one more question
that would be really helpful.
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Do you know where
your husband was
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earlier this evening,
prior to calling you?
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I'm not sure.
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I don't...
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he's so busy, I don't...
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I really never know where he is.
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You can ask Nicole.
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She's my husband's
chief of staff.
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She'll know.
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- Hi there.
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Do you know where
President Alpert was
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earlier this evening?
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- He was at a party
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to celebrate the
100th anniversary
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of the student newspaper.
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- And you didn't notice
anything unusual?
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No arguments, no
problems, altercations?
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- It was a wonderful event.
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For the most part.
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- For the most part?
What do you mean?
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- Toward the end of the night,
a guest confronted Nate.
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Started yelling at him.
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Things got pretty
heated, so Nate left.
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He didn't want to
ruin the event.
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- And what about the
man he was arguing with?
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- He left, too, a
few minutes later.
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- This hothead have a name?
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- That's ridiculous.
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There was no heated altercation.
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We had a conversation.
- About what?
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- There have been accusations
that members of my team
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have been hazing
the younger players.
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And Alpert, being a progressive,
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cancel first, ask
questions later
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type of president, has
retained a law firm
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to investigate the allegations.
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- And?
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- I called him several
times, but he's ignoring me,
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so I went to the party
to talk to him in person.
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But Alpert didn't
want to talk about it.
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- And that was it? No
physical confrontation?
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Look.
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I didn't respect the man, but
I sure as hell didn't kill him.
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- Hey.
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Lacrosse coach's
story check out?
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- Yeah, found some
surveillance footage.
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He and Alpert argued
for a few minutes,
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and then they walked off
in separate directions.
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- Look, we need to find a lead,
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something, anything, fast.
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This Alpert appears to have
a lot of important friends.
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- He's got a lot of
important enemies too.
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I spoke to his chief of
staff again last night.
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She confirmed that Coach Herlihy
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was going to get fired.
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That got me thinking
about all the other
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pissed off university
employees that got let go.
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- And?
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- Currently, there are 24
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wrongful termination lawsuits
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naming Hudson and
Alpert as defendants.
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- Well, that's a hell
of a lot of suspects.
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- Yeah, but only one
of them got slapped
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with a restraining order.
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Two days ago a guy by the name
of Professor Phillip Klein.
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- All right. Track him down.
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See if he happened to
be in lower Manhattan
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last night around 9:30 or so.
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- I think that's our guy.
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- Yeah, I think so.
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- Phillip Klein, a word, please.
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- Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
- Hey, hey, whoa.
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Hey, where you going?
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- Sorry. I just...
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I don't want to go to jail.
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- Go to jail for what?
- For fighting anti-Semitism.
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- What are you talking about?
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- From the river to the sea.
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Right, that's code
for destroying Israel.
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It's vile. You're the police.
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You... you are arresting people
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for tearing down posters,
for trying to remove
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this filth from the city.
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- We're here to talk
about Nathan Alpert.
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You know him?
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- Of course, I know him. Why?
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- He's dead.
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- Well, that's good news.
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- Oh, that's good news?
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Well, a little bad news...
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you're gonna come
with us to the 2-7.
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- What kind of a relationship
did I have with Alpert?
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A terrible one.
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Shall I continue?
- No. We get it.
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The question is, why?
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What triggered all the rage?
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- Son of a bitch fired me
for having the audacity
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to suggest that
someone born a man
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shouldn't be allowed to
compete in women's athletics,
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regardless of how they identify.
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A college campus is a place
to debate, express opinions.
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But not here, not these days.
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You express the wrong
view, you're canceled.
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Unless, of course, you're
talking about Israel.
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Yeah, on that topic, you
can say whatever you want.
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The more hateful, the better.
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- I don't blame you
for being upset.
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I don't even blame you for
threatening to kill him.
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Yeah. We read the
restraining order.
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- I didn't mean it literally.
262
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I was sitting at home
watching the news,
263
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reading about Israel. I-I...
264
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I lost my mind.
265
00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,570
I threatened Alpert.
- What about last night?
266
00:12:18,610 --> 00:12:21,490
Did you lose your mind
again, around 9:30 p.m.?
267
00:12:21,530 --> 00:12:26,200
This is you leaving your
apartment at 9:14, yeah?
268
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And this is also you
coming back home at 9:42.
269
00:12:29,910 --> 00:12:32,210
Now, what were you doing
for those 30 minutes?
270
00:12:32,250 --> 00:12:34,420
- I took a walk up
to Union Square Park,
271
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then came home.
272
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I stopped at a bodega a few
blocks from my apartment,
273
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bought some aspirin.
274
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If you let me grab my phone,
I can show you the receipt.
275
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- Be our guest.
276
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Here, 9:34 p.m.
277
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- OK.
278
00:12:52,020 --> 00:12:53,560
So who else hated Alpert?
279
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- Everyone,
280
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especially the Jewish community.
281
00:12:58,020 --> 00:13:00,190
- Alpert is Jewish.
- Exactly.
282
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He refused to issue a statement
283
00:13:01,990 --> 00:13:04,860
after the October
7th terrorist attack.
284
00:13:04,900 --> 00:13:07,950
George Floyd, Alpert
issued a statement.
285
00:13:07,990 --> 00:13:09,870
Roe v. Wade, statement.
286
00:13:09,910 --> 00:13:12,620
Hamas slaughters
innocent Israelis,
287
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no statement.
288
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And then things, they
just... they got worse.
289
00:13:16,330 --> 00:13:19,090
Last month, this pro-Palestinian
290
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student group hosted a
film symposium on campus,
291
00:13:22,010 --> 00:13:23,300
and the movies were disgusting.
292
00:13:23,340 --> 00:13:26,130
They were full of
anti-Semitic tropes.
293
00:13:26,180 --> 00:13:28,050
Alpert said that the
filmmakers had a right
294
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to express their views.
295
00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,140
- So you're saying
the Jewish community
296
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is pissed off at
Alpert 'cause of this.
297
00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,140
- Yes.
298
00:13:34,180 --> 00:13:36,020
- Well, do you know
anyone in that community
299
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who actually wanted to hurt him?
300
00:13:37,350 --> 00:13:40,980
- Hurt him? No.
Fire him, yeah.
301
00:13:41,020 --> 00:13:42,980
There was a group of
influential donors
302
00:13:43,030 --> 00:13:44,740
demanding that he resign.
303
00:13:44,780 --> 00:13:46,860
But Alpert wouldn't budge.
304
00:13:46,910 --> 00:13:48,700
He told 'em all to go to hell.
305
00:13:56,460 --> 00:13:58,920
- That's you outside Alpert's
home the day he was murdered.
306
00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:03,670
- We were supposed to meet for
lunch, but he wasn't there.
307
00:14:03,710 --> 00:14:07,630
I guess he got called into some
sort of an emergency meeting.
308
00:14:07,680 --> 00:14:09,430
- Lunch?
309
00:14:09,470 --> 00:14:11,026
From the articles I
read, you and Alpert
310
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didn't like each
other very much.
311
00:14:12,180 --> 00:14:13,390
Now you're lunch buddies?
312
00:14:13,430 --> 00:14:14,720
- No.
313
00:14:14,770 --> 00:14:16,140
Nate was a good man.
314
00:14:16,180 --> 00:14:17,520
He just wasn't a great leader.
315
00:14:17,560 --> 00:14:19,270
- So what was the
purpose of lunch?
316
00:14:19,310 --> 00:14:21,940
- To persuade him
to ban this hateful
317
00:14:21,980 --> 00:14:24,190
pro-Palestinian student group.
318
00:14:24,230 --> 00:14:26,070
- The one that put on
the film symposium?
319
00:14:26,110 --> 00:14:27,400
- They're vile.
320
00:14:27,450 --> 00:14:28,796
But Alpert said they
had a right to present
321
00:14:28,820 --> 00:14:30,950
whatever films they wanted.
322
00:14:30,990 --> 00:14:33,830
It was all about
freedom of expression.
323
00:14:33,870 --> 00:14:35,516
- Didn't something like that
happen at the University
324
00:14:35,540 --> 00:14:38,330
of Pennsylvania?
- Uh-huh. But this was worse.
325
00:14:38,370 --> 00:14:42,210
I had a private detective do
some digging into these kids.
326
00:14:42,250 --> 00:14:45,550
- Wow. Private
detective. I'm intrigued.
327
00:14:45,590 --> 00:14:47,420
Please, what did he find?
328
00:14:47,470 --> 00:14:50,510
- Video of a student
praising Hamas
329
00:14:50,550 --> 00:14:56,270
for their courage on campus
at the film symposium.
330
00:14:56,310 --> 00:14:58,350
That was a bridge too
far even for Alpert.
331
00:14:58,390 --> 00:15:00,070
Finally, agreed to get
rid of these idiots.
332
00:15:00,100 --> 00:15:01,650
- So you met with
Alpert that day?
333
00:15:01,690 --> 00:15:04,980
- Yeah, I was still trying to
get him to release a statement
334
00:15:05,030 --> 00:15:07,650
regarding the
October 7th attack.
335
00:15:07,690 --> 00:15:08,900
Better late than never.
336
00:15:08,950 --> 00:15:10,320
But he wouldn't do it.
337
00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,870
Said he didn't care how
many donors he pissed off.
338
00:15:13,910 --> 00:15:15,240
Son of a bitch had
his principles,
339
00:15:15,290 --> 00:15:17,120
I'll give him that.
340
00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:21,250
- OK, well, in the interest
of moving along here,
341
00:15:21,290 --> 00:15:24,630
where were you last
night at 9:30 p.m.?
342
00:15:24,670 --> 00:15:26,090
- At Madison Square Garden
343
00:15:26,130 --> 00:15:28,130
watching the Knicks
get their ass kicked.
344
00:15:31,130 --> 00:15:32,970
- Man, I am pretty
sure that social media
345
00:15:33,010 --> 00:15:34,600
is the worst thing
ever invented.
346
00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,100
- Yep.
347
00:15:36,140 --> 00:15:37,390
- That and cashew milk.
348
00:15:37,430 --> 00:15:40,770
- Mm. You don't know what
you're missing, brother.
349
00:15:40,810 --> 00:15:42,350
Nut milk is the best milk.
350
00:15:44,110 --> 00:15:46,940
- Hey, man, I gotta ask
351
00:15:46,980 --> 00:15:49,440
what happened with Cosgrove?
352
00:15:49,490 --> 00:15:51,796
I knew him a little bit back
in the day; he was a good cop.
353
00:15:51,820 --> 00:15:53,910
- Great cop.
354
00:15:53,950 --> 00:15:55,870
He just got jammed up.
355
00:15:55,910 --> 00:15:57,790
- On what?
356
00:15:57,830 --> 00:15:59,056
- Being too honest about things
357
00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,040
people aren't too
honest about these days.
358
00:16:02,830 --> 00:16:05,066
- Yeah, it is not a great time
to have an opinion, is it?
359
00:16:05,090 --> 00:16:07,420
- It is not.
360
00:16:07,460 --> 00:16:09,340
- Hey, you ever
hear of Chloe Esper?
361
00:16:09,380 --> 00:16:11,680
- Yeah, the actor.
- Yeah, I guess so.
362
00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,590
She's a student at Hudson.
363
00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,276
And founder of the
pro-Palestinian student group
364
00:16:15,300 --> 00:16:17,140
Geller was talking about.
365
00:16:17,180 --> 00:16:19,430
13 million followers,
366
00:16:19,470 --> 00:16:21,020
and some very
aggressive opinions
367
00:16:21,060 --> 00:16:22,440
on what's going on in Gaza.
368
00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,730
Looks like she just
posted a new video too.
369
00:16:24,770 --> 00:16:26,560
- Well, let's check that out.
370
00:16:26,610 --> 00:16:27,610
- Yeah.
371
00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,910
- Hudson University
president Nathan Alpert
372
00:16:33,950 --> 00:16:37,870
is a coward and a puppet
of the Zionist regime.
373
00:16:37,910 --> 00:16:40,750
His decision today to
ban our student group
374
00:16:40,790 --> 00:16:43,500
is filled with hate and
proves that his goal
375
00:16:43,540 --> 00:16:46,710
is to help the Israel
regime oppress and slaughter
376
00:16:46,750 --> 00:16:48,920
innocent Palestinians.
377
00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,590
In short, he is a traitor.
378
00:16:52,630 --> 00:16:54,260
- Traitor, huh?
379
00:17:13,150 --> 00:17:14,490
- Can I help you?
380
00:17:14,530 --> 00:17:15,950
- Looking for Chloe Esper.
381
00:17:15,990 --> 00:17:17,410
- May I ask what this is about?
382
00:17:17,450 --> 00:17:19,059
- No, you may not.
383
00:17:20,620 --> 00:17:22,910
- Chloe? Hi.
384
00:17:22,950 --> 00:17:25,460
I'm Detective Riley.
This is Detective Shaw.
385
00:17:25,500 --> 00:17:28,500
Like to ask you a few questions.
386
00:17:28,540 --> 00:17:30,960
- Let me guess. You
saw the video I posted.
387
00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,210
- We sure did.
388
00:17:32,260 --> 00:17:33,696
- You said some pretty
horrible things.
389
00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,800
- I spoke the truth. My truth.
390
00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:36,840
- Your truth?
391
00:17:36,890 --> 00:17:38,890
Because you have
some unique insight
392
00:17:38,930 --> 00:17:40,060
into the situation?
393
00:17:40,100 --> 00:17:42,020
- My mother was born in Gaza,
394
00:17:42,060 --> 00:17:43,640
lived there until she was 22.
395
00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,230
And I still have
family there, so
396
00:17:46,270 --> 00:17:47,900
I know how people are
treated over there,
397
00:17:47,940 --> 00:17:50,110
even before this
war, but now it's...
398
00:17:50,150 --> 00:17:51,400
it's beyond horrific.
399
00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,650
Innocent people are
dying every day.
400
00:17:53,690 --> 00:17:56,820
- I-I know it's a
very tough situation,
401
00:17:56,860 --> 00:17:59,200
and I can see why
you're so passionate.
402
00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,700
- And angry.
403
00:18:02,740 --> 00:18:04,660
- You think I killed
President Alpert?
404
00:18:04,700 --> 00:18:06,806
- We saw the video you made.
You called him a traitor.
405
00:18:06,830 --> 00:18:10,210
- Yeah, because he wanted to
destroy this organization.
406
00:18:10,250 --> 00:18:12,840
He was gonna ban us from campus,
407
00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,590
just because a bunch of
rich donors were offended
408
00:18:15,630 --> 00:18:18,680
that we sponsored a Middle
Eastern film symposium.
409
00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,550
- Where were you Tuesday
night at 9:30 p.m.?
410
00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,100
- I'm not going to answer that.
411
00:18:22,140 --> 00:18:23,866
- If you're innocent, it's in
your best interest to do so.
412
00:18:23,890 --> 00:18:25,456
- Please leave.
- You heard what she said.
413
00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,100
You have no right to harass her.
414
00:18:27,140 --> 00:18:28,440
- No one's harassing anybody.
415
00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,110
- What's going on?
416
00:18:30,150 --> 00:18:31,520
Is there a problem?
- No, ma'am.
417
00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,730
We just wanted to talk to
one of your students here.
418
00:18:33,780 --> 00:18:35,466
- Sounds like she doesn't
want to talk to you.
419
00:18:35,490 --> 00:18:36,610
- This won't take long.
420
00:18:36,650 --> 00:18:38,360
- She doesn't want
to talk to you.
421
00:18:38,410 --> 00:18:39,966
- Just a few simple...
- You have no right
422
00:18:39,990 --> 00:18:41,700
coming in here,
harassing my students.
423
00:18:41,740 --> 00:18:42,846
So I'm going to
ask you one more...
424
00:18:42,870 --> 00:18:44,056
- And I'm gonna tell
you one more time,
425
00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:45,750
nobody's harassing
anybody, so just relax.
426
00:18:45,790 --> 00:18:47,016
There's no need for
this type of attitude.
427
00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,370
- Don't you dare spin
this around on me.
428
00:18:49,420 --> 00:18:52,130
- You come here to our
home without a warrant,
429
00:18:52,170 --> 00:18:53,710
accusing my students of...
430
00:18:53,750 --> 00:18:55,710
- No one has accused
anyone of anything, okay.
431
00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,800
This is all very stand...
- Riley. Riley.
432
00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,430
Um...
433
00:18:59,470 --> 00:19:02,890
the lady has a point.
434
00:19:02,930 --> 00:19:05,640
Thank you for your time.
435
00:19:07,310 --> 00:19:10,060
You see the lip balm
on Chloe's desk?
436
00:19:10,100 --> 00:19:12,650
Paradies.
437
00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,150
What the hell just happened?
438
00:19:18,190 --> 00:19:19,820
What'd you do to those students?
439
00:19:19,860 --> 00:19:21,030
- Excuse me?
440
00:19:21,070 --> 00:19:22,676
- My phone has been
ringing off the hook...
441
00:19:22,700 --> 00:19:25,910
Chloe Esper's agent, her
lawyer, her publicist.
442
00:19:25,950 --> 00:19:28,040
Social media is on fire.
443
00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,080
Chloe posted that we
were harassing her,
444
00:19:30,120 --> 00:19:32,880
that we're in the pocket
of the Israeli government,
445
00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,090
that we're trying to
silence the opposition
446
00:19:35,130 --> 00:19:37,210
to the war crimes that
are happening in Gaza.
447
00:19:37,260 --> 00:19:38,446
- Lou, I promise you, all we did
448
00:19:38,470 --> 00:19:39,670
was ask some questions.
449
00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,066
- And I can promise you,
I have not been in touch
450
00:19:41,090 --> 00:19:42,616
with anybody from the
Israeli government.
451
00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,140
- Hey, check it out.
452
00:19:45,180 --> 00:19:48,480
Just found video from the
Paradies boutique near campus.
453
00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,850
- That looks like the same camo
parka the killer was wearing.
454
00:19:52,900 --> 00:19:54,650
- Can you find
another angle of that?
455
00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,690
Need to get a better
look at that face.
456
00:20:12,420 --> 00:20:13,880
Detectives.
457
00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,590
- What the hell are
you guys doing here?
458
00:20:15,630 --> 00:20:16,750
I don't wanna talk to you.
459
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,170
- And we don't
wanna talk to you.
460
00:20:18,210 --> 00:20:20,090
Cameron Lawson.
461
00:20:20,130 --> 00:20:22,760
- Do not move. Do not
move. Do not move.
462
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,260
Don't move.
463
00:20:25,300 --> 00:20:26,720
- You're under
arrest for murder.
464
00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,720
- Murder? That's a lie!
465
00:20:29,770 --> 00:20:31,270
- We'll see about that.
466
00:20:31,310 --> 00:20:32,770
- Whoa, whoa, whoa!
- Out of the way.
467
00:20:32,810 --> 00:20:34,940
Out of the way.
- Leave him alone.
468
00:20:34,980 --> 00:20:36,206
- Hey, back up.
- Leave him alone.
469
00:20:36,230 --> 00:20:37,770
- Back up! Everybody back up.
470
00:20:37,820 --> 00:20:39,650
- You can't do this.
- Officers!
471
00:20:39,690 --> 00:20:42,030
- Everybody back up.
472
00:20:45,820 --> 00:20:47,490
Order.
473
00:20:47,530 --> 00:20:50,410
Order in this
courtroom.
474
00:20:50,450 --> 00:20:51,750
Order!
475
00:20:51,790 --> 00:20:54,080
- People versus Cameron Lawson,
476
00:20:54,120 --> 00:20:57,290
charging murder in
the second degree.
477
00:20:57,340 --> 00:21:00,050
- How do you plead, sir?
478
00:21:00,090 --> 00:21:01,460
- Not guilty.
479
00:21:01,510 --> 00:21:03,010
- Question on bail?
- There is.
480
00:21:03,050 --> 00:21:05,720
The defendant was a member
of a student organization
481
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,850
at Hudson University,
which sponsored
482
00:21:07,890 --> 00:21:10,680
a film symposium
rife with insensitive
483
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,600
and offensive content.
484
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,730
After one of the
screenings, he toasted Hamas
485
00:21:15,770 --> 00:21:17,650
for its courage in executing
486
00:21:17,690 --> 00:21:20,570
the horrific October
7th attack on Israel.
487
00:21:20,610 --> 00:21:22,650
As a result,
university president
488
00:21:22,690 --> 00:21:24,360
Nathan Alpert chose to dismantle
489
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:25,820
the student organization.
490
00:21:25,860 --> 00:21:28,120
This enraged the defendant.
491
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,620
So he lay in wait and, without
warning or provocation,
492
00:21:31,660 --> 00:21:34,540
he stabbed Mr. Alpert to death.
- Objection.
493
00:21:34,580 --> 00:21:36,170
- Let Miss Maroun finish.
494
00:21:36,210 --> 00:21:38,266
- The defendant's parka was
found near the crime scene
495
00:21:38,290 --> 00:21:39,790
covered in the victim's blood.
496
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,710
The murder weapon
was in the pocket
497
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,670
along with some lip
balm, which contained
498
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,380
the defendant's DNA.
499
00:21:45,430 --> 00:21:47,760
The people seek remand.
500
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,050
- Now.
501
00:21:49,100 --> 00:21:51,720
- My client is a
20-year-old history major
502
00:21:51,770 --> 00:21:53,810
who lives on the
Upper East Side.
503
00:21:53,850 --> 00:21:55,980
He's not a terrorist
or a murderer,
504
00:21:56,020 --> 00:21:57,900
and he's certainly
not a flight risk.
505
00:21:57,940 --> 00:22:00,690
Moreover, the
government's case is weak.
506
00:22:00,730 --> 00:22:02,610
They can't put my
client anywhere
507
00:22:02,650 --> 00:22:05,950
near the scene of the crime
because he wasn't there.
508
00:22:05,990 --> 00:22:08,410
He's innocent.
509
00:22:08,450 --> 00:22:10,620
- Bail is set at $1 million.
510
00:22:29,050 --> 00:22:31,510
- I'm surprised the
judge granted bail.
511
00:22:31,550 --> 00:22:33,930
- I'm surprised you described
the content of those films
512
00:22:33,970 --> 00:22:37,640
as offensive and insensitive.
- As opposed to?
513
00:22:37,690 --> 00:22:40,440
- Hateful and malicious.
514
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,610
- I'm not going to
debate adjectives.
515
00:22:42,650 --> 00:22:47,110
You chose them.
516
00:22:47,150 --> 00:22:49,200
I know you have
family in Lebanon.
517
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,280
- I don't want to talk
about that, Nolan.
518
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:52,870
There's no point.
519
00:22:52,910 --> 00:22:55,580
It's not in the best
interest of the case.
520
00:22:55,620 --> 00:22:58,790
I think it's better to ignore
politics and personal opinions
521
00:22:58,830 --> 00:23:01,040
and direct our energy
towards the case,
522
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,460
and getting justice
for Nathan Alpert.
523
00:23:03,500 --> 00:23:06,260
Right now, that
means finding a way
524
00:23:06,300 --> 00:23:08,880
to put Cam Lawson
near the crime scene.
525
00:23:16,563 --> 00:23:18,290
- This is from a
surveillance camera
526
00:23:18,315 --> 00:23:19,956
a few blocks from
the German boutique
527
00:23:19,980 --> 00:23:22,190
that you and Cam both frequent.
528
00:23:22,230 --> 00:23:24,320
- All I see is someone
getting into a car.
529
00:23:24,360 --> 00:23:25,900
- Well, we believe
that's Cam Lawson.
530
00:23:25,940 --> 00:23:28,190
- Why?
- His jacket.
531
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,240
- He's not the only
guy in Manhattan
532
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:31,870
who owns a camo parka.
533
00:23:31,910 --> 00:23:33,580
- He's the only guy in Manhattan
534
00:23:33,620 --> 00:23:37,120
with a camo parka getting into
a car registered in your name.
535
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,290
- Where are you going with this?
536
00:23:39,330 --> 00:23:43,340
- This is Cam getting out of
your vehicle 20 minutes later,
537
00:23:43,380 --> 00:23:46,090
a block from where
Alpert was murdered.
538
00:23:46,130 --> 00:23:47,960
- You can't even see his face.
539
00:23:48,010 --> 00:23:51,050
- You need to tell us
what you know, Chloe, now.
540
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,760
- This is not a movie.
541
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,640
You only get one take.
542
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,600
And you better get it right.
543
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,400
Unless she tells us everything
that really happened,
544
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,860
we're gonna charge her with
being an accomplice to murder.
545
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,030
- OK. Fine.
546
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,950
I...
547
00:24:17,990 --> 00:24:21,750
I ran into Cam outside
my boyfriend's apartment.
548
00:24:21,790 --> 00:24:23,210
He asked for a ride
and I said yes.
549
00:24:23,250 --> 00:24:25,130
That's it. That's all I know.
550
00:24:25,170 --> 00:24:27,250
- He tell you what he was
planning to do that night?
551
00:24:27,300 --> 00:24:29,340
No.
552
00:24:29,380 --> 00:24:32,380
Where'd you go after
you dropped him off?
553
00:24:32,430 --> 00:24:35,470
- To dinner with my agent
554
00:24:38,970 --> 00:24:41,230
- Chloe Esper's alibi check out?
555
00:24:41,270 --> 00:24:43,900
- Still waiting to hear back
from the restaurant manager
556
00:24:43,940 --> 00:24:45,810
and her agent.
557
00:24:45,860 --> 00:24:47,940
Uh, wait a second.
558
00:24:48,570 --> 00:24:52,900
The manager of the restaurant
confirms Chloe was there.
559
00:24:52,950 --> 00:24:55,820
- All right, so Chloe
wasn't at the crime scene.
560
00:24:55,870 --> 00:25:00,700
- No, but she's pissed
off, that's for sure.
561
00:25:00,750 --> 00:25:04,290
She's blowing up social
media right now, as we speak.
562
00:25:04,330 --> 00:25:08,250
She did a livestream with
Nasser, that professor.
563
00:25:08,290 --> 00:25:10,670
- Cam Lawson is my dear friend,
564
00:25:10,710 --> 00:25:14,760
and he's a good person and a
true believer in our cause,
565
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,180
and he's being framed by the
New York Police Department
566
00:25:18,220 --> 00:25:20,470
and the Manhattan District
Attorney's Office.
567
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,640
They're trying to punish
Cam for having the courage
568
00:25:23,690 --> 00:25:25,520
to speak out.
569
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,020
Well, this is not
surprising, of course,
570
00:25:28,060 --> 00:25:31,480
since both organizations
have close ties to Israel.
571
00:25:31,530 --> 00:25:34,490
- The American government
is trying to squelch dissent
572
00:25:34,530 --> 00:25:37,030
and obscure what's
really happening in Gaza.
573
00:25:37,070 --> 00:25:39,370
And trying to hide
the fact that Israel
574
00:25:39,410 --> 00:25:42,950
are repressing innocent
men, women, and children.
575
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,830
So take a stand.
576
00:25:44,870 --> 00:25:47,790
Voice your outrage!
577
00:25:47,830 --> 00:25:51,550
This is the only way we
can change the status quo.
578
00:25:51,590 --> 00:25:53,670
- Wow. That's subtle.
579
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,840
- "Chloe needs to condemn Hamas
first, then worry about Gaza."
580
00:25:57,890 --> 00:26:02,270
"Chloe Esper is a
self-promoting anti-Semite."
581
00:26:02,310 --> 00:26:04,890
"Rot in hell."
582
00:26:04,930 --> 00:26:07,190
She's definitely passionate.
583
00:26:07,230 --> 00:26:10,270
- She's passionate
and irresponsible.
584
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:11,940
- No.
585
00:26:11,980 --> 00:26:14,400
She's just a kid.
586
00:26:15,780 --> 00:26:19,120
A kid with a massive platform,
587
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,740
trying to give voice to all
her anger and frustration.
588
00:26:22,790 --> 00:26:24,290
- No, it's more than that.
589
00:26:24,330 --> 00:26:27,080
- Maybe, but...
590
00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:29,080
she believes what she believes.
591
00:26:29,130 --> 00:26:31,040
- And you agree with her?
- No!
592
00:26:31,090 --> 00:26:33,510
I most definitely don't.
593
00:26:33,550 --> 00:26:37,970
But that doesn't mean that
what she's saying is crazy.
594
00:26:38,010 --> 00:26:40,600
Like it or not, she's the
queen of the far left.
595
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,930
They are begging her
to take center stage,
596
00:26:42,970 --> 00:26:45,560
to be the mouthpiece of
the Palestinian cause.
597
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,640
They want her to be a martyr.
598
00:26:47,690 --> 00:26:50,610
A young photogenic martyr.
599
00:26:50,650 --> 00:26:53,270
And she's taking the bait.
600
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,490
- I just think she's a lot
less naive than you do.
601
00:26:57,530 --> 00:26:59,410
Either way, we need a gag order.
602
00:26:59,450 --> 00:27:02,280
Chloe and her friends are
polluting the jury pool
603
00:27:02,330 --> 00:27:05,000
with all this hyperbole
and misinformation.
604
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,210
- The righteous will
not be silenced.
605
00:27:16,260 --> 00:27:19,630
The oppressors will not prevail
606
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,140
because you will not let them.
607
00:27:23,350 --> 00:27:25,180
Thank you, everyone,
for coming out...
608
00:27:25,220 --> 00:27:27,020
- So much for the gag order.
609
00:27:27,060 --> 00:27:29,890
- And now, some words
from Chloe Esper.
610
00:27:37,820 --> 00:27:41,990
- Thank you, Professor
Nasser, for your inspiration.
611
00:27:42,030 --> 00:27:43,160
And thank you, Cam Lawson,
612
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,740
for your commitment
to the cause.
613
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,830
- This guy's about to
stand trial for murder,
614
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,460
and he's up there
putting on a show.
615
00:27:53,500 --> 00:27:56,000
- Will you fight for
a free Palestine?
616
00:27:56,050 --> 00:27:58,010
From the
river to the sea!
617
00:27:59,550 --> 00:28:02,590
It's a reflection of our
hope for a free Palestine.
618
00:28:09,430 --> 00:28:10,940
- Shooter, brown
jacket, gray hat.
619
00:28:10,980 --> 00:28:12,400
- I see him.
620
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,690
Move, move!
621
00:28:14,730 --> 00:28:16,570
- Chloe. Chloe.
622
00:28:16,610 --> 00:28:17,690
Chloe. Chloe.
623
00:28:17,730 --> 00:28:18,836
- Hey, Chloe. Can you hear me?
624
00:28:18,860 --> 00:28:20,740
- Chloe. Chloe.
625
00:28:20,780 --> 00:28:22,570
- We need an ambulance!
626
00:28:22,610 --> 00:28:24,990
- Stop! Stop!
627
00:28:28,370 --> 00:28:29,540
- Hey, hey!
628
00:28:29,580 --> 00:28:31,370
- On the ground! Stop!
629
00:28:32,710 --> 00:28:34,040
- Stay down!
630
00:28:35,750 --> 00:28:36,880
- Hey, drop it!
631
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,090
- Drop the gun, Professor Klein!
632
00:28:39,130 --> 00:28:40,550
- Put it down.
633
00:28:40,590 --> 00:28:42,090
- Drop that gun, Phillip.
634
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,010
- Hey.
635
00:28:45,050 --> 00:28:47,180
- My college
roommate, he's dead.
636
00:28:47,220 --> 00:28:49,270
They killed him. They
killed his whole family.
637
00:28:49,310 --> 00:28:51,390
- You need to drop that gun.
638
00:28:51,430 --> 00:28:54,350
- They're trying to
destroy us. Never again.
639
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,610
No, never again.
640
00:28:55,650 --> 00:28:56,836
- Hey, listen, listen,
listen, listen to me.
641
00:28:56,860 --> 00:28:59,360
- No, never again.
- Listen to me. I get it.
642
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:00,900
You're trying to
protect your people.
643
00:29:00,940 --> 00:29:02,176
You're trying to
be a good person.
644
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,660
I get that. I get that.
645
00:29:03,700 --> 00:29:04,910
But this is not how you do it.
646
00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:07,280
Nobody else needs to
die today. Look at me.
647
00:29:07,330 --> 00:29:10,750
I need you to put the
gun down. Come on.
648
00:29:10,790 --> 00:29:12,410
- Drop the gun.
649
00:29:12,460 --> 00:29:15,460
Drop the gun or
I will shoot you.
650
00:29:15,500 --> 00:29:17,590
Drop the gun!
651
00:29:40,860 --> 00:29:42,490
- He's dead.
652
00:29:56,290 --> 00:29:57,659
- Riley,
653
00:29:58,750 --> 00:30:01,170
just want to thank you for...
654
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,510
I appreciate you.
- Yeah.
655
00:30:06,550 --> 00:30:08,680
- I wasn't expecting him to...
656
00:30:12,770 --> 00:30:15,100
You OK?
657
00:30:15,140 --> 00:30:17,230
- Yeah, I think so.
658
00:30:19,230 --> 00:30:21,020
I never shot anyone before.
659
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,830
- Chloe didn't make it.
660
00:30:33,870 --> 00:30:36,040
Two more dead bodies
661
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:40,380
in the name of free speech.
662
00:30:40,420 --> 00:30:42,590
- When did expressing
your beliefs
663
00:30:42,630 --> 00:30:45,760
become so fraught?
664
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,970
- When it comes to
Israel and Palestine,
665
00:30:49,010 --> 00:30:51,140
forever.
666
00:30:54,310 --> 00:30:57,060
- The court gave us two days
667
00:30:57,100 --> 00:31:00,730
to see if we can
still make a case,
668
00:31:00,770 --> 00:31:02,230
so let's dig in.
669
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:05,690
- Chloe was the only witness
670
00:31:05,740 --> 00:31:07,490
who could put Cam
near the crime scene.
671
00:31:07,530 --> 00:31:08,570
- I know.
672
00:31:08,610 --> 00:31:11,620
So we need to find
a different way.
673
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,750
What about her boyfriend?
674
00:31:17,790 --> 00:31:19,710
- What do you mean?
675
00:31:19,750 --> 00:31:21,540
- Well, she was
leaving his place
676
00:31:21,580 --> 00:31:24,630
when she ran into Cam
that night, right?
677
00:31:24,670 --> 00:31:25,840
- Yeah.
678
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,430
- So talk to him.
679
00:31:28,470 --> 00:31:30,050
Maybe he knows something.
680
00:31:42,610 --> 00:31:44,940
- I want to help. I do.
681
00:31:44,980 --> 00:31:48,570
But, like I said, I
didn't see Cam that night.
682
00:31:48,610 --> 00:31:51,160
- Who else were they
hanging out with?
683
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,080
- This history
professor, Kendra Nasser.
684
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,950
They're both obsessed with her
685
00:31:55,990 --> 00:31:58,460
and her extreme
pro-Palestinian propaganda.
686
00:31:58,500 --> 00:32:00,210
- Wait, what do you mean?
687
00:32:00,250 --> 00:32:02,460
- Before they met her,
they barely talked
688
00:32:02,500 --> 00:32:04,630
about all this, but
she brainwashed them.
689
00:32:04,670 --> 00:32:08,880
She started preaching
and manipulating.
690
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,760
She's hardcore too.
691
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,850
She thought October
7th was justified.
692
00:32:13,890 --> 00:32:15,850
I mean, I support
innocent Palestinians,
693
00:32:15,890 --> 00:32:17,390
but come on.
694
00:32:17,430 --> 00:32:19,480
That was a flat
out act of terror.
695
00:32:22,850 --> 00:32:25,570
- We found this video
of Cam in the lobby
696
00:32:25,610 --> 00:32:28,530
of Kendra Nasser's apartment
an hour after the murder.
697
00:32:30,650 --> 00:32:34,030
This is the two of them
walking into her apartment.
698
00:32:34,070 --> 00:32:36,790
- So what are you suggesting?
699
00:32:36,830 --> 00:32:38,580
- That she may have
indoctrinated him,
700
00:32:38,620 --> 00:32:40,330
used him to do her bidding.
701
00:32:40,370 --> 00:32:41,870
- Based on this?
702
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,210
- There's more.
703
00:32:43,250 --> 00:32:45,000
Police executed a search warrant
704
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,840
at Nasser's apartment today.
705
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,710
They found a knife missing
from her cutlery set...
706
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,840
the exact same type of
knife that was identified
707
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,430
as the murder weapon.
708
00:32:53,470 --> 00:32:55,300
Sounds to me like
it was her idea.
709
00:32:55,350 --> 00:32:56,890
- Sounds to me like
you're gonna need
710
00:32:56,930 --> 00:32:59,430
a lot more evidence.
Talk to the defendant.
711
00:32:59,470 --> 00:33:00,850
See what he has to say.
712
00:33:00,890 --> 00:33:04,980
If your theory is right,
we'll give him a deal.
713
00:33:05,020 --> 00:33:06,860
- A deal?
714
00:33:06,900 --> 00:33:08,780
No.
715
00:33:08,820 --> 00:33:11,820
No. He stabbed Alpert
in the chest twice
716
00:33:11,860 --> 00:33:14,610
and dropped a card on his
body calling him a traitor.
717
00:33:14,660 --> 00:33:16,620
That is murder all day long.
718
00:33:16,660 --> 00:33:18,370
- But you just said
that you believe
719
00:33:18,410 --> 00:33:21,200
Nasser manipulated him.
- She did.
720
00:33:21,250 --> 00:33:22,870
- Then she's more culpable.
721
00:33:22,910 --> 00:33:26,710
- I agree, but Cam still
needs to pay for what he did.
722
00:33:26,750 --> 00:33:29,090
He killed the Jewish
president of a university
723
00:33:29,130 --> 00:33:31,920
for political reasons.
724
00:33:31,970 --> 00:33:33,760
Think about the optics.
725
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,470
- Let me worry about the optics.
726
00:33:35,510 --> 00:33:37,550
You worry about the case.
727
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:38,720
Talk to the defendant.
728
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,970
See if he's willing
to cooperate.
729
00:33:47,940 --> 00:33:51,690
- Professor Nasser is
a leader, a visionary.
730
00:33:51,740 --> 00:33:53,570
She's the only person
who tells the truth
731
00:33:53,610 --> 00:33:56,360
no matter the consequences.
- Cameron, please.
732
00:33:56,410 --> 00:33:58,070
- She treats me like an adult.
733
00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:59,910
She sees me.
734
00:33:59,950 --> 00:34:02,790
- What are you talking
about, she sees you?
735
00:34:02,830 --> 00:34:04,870
What the hell is wrong with you?
736
00:34:04,910 --> 00:34:06,500
- OK. Enough.
737
00:34:06,540 --> 00:34:08,630
Let's hear what
Mr. Price has to say.
738
00:34:08,670 --> 00:34:10,550
- We're offering
you a lifeline, Cam.
739
00:34:10,590 --> 00:34:11,710
- In a few months,
740
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,340
Nasser won't even
remember your name.
741
00:34:14,380 --> 00:34:15,760
She'll have moved on
742
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,390
and found another
young, cute disciple.
743
00:34:19,430 --> 00:34:21,430
- Tell them what happened.
744
00:34:21,470 --> 00:34:25,270
Tell them how she convinced you
it was the right thing to do.
745
00:34:25,310 --> 00:34:27,350
- Is that what happened?
746
00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:31,110
Did she tell you to kill Alpert?
747
00:34:33,900 --> 00:34:36,030
- If you cooperate,
I will recommend
748
00:34:36,070 --> 00:34:38,280
you serve 10 years.
749
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,660
If not, you're looking at life.
750
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,120
It's now or never.
751
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,970
- Anyone who tells you October
7th was a terrorist attack
752
00:34:59,010 --> 00:35:00,260
is categorically wrong.
753
00:35:00,300 --> 00:35:02,890
It was but a necessary step...
- Detectives.
754
00:35:02,930 --> 00:35:05,270
Kendra Nasser, hands
behind your back.
755
00:35:05,310 --> 00:35:07,270
- You can't do this!
756
00:35:07,310 --> 00:35:09,270
- You have the right
to remain silent.
757
00:35:09,310 --> 00:35:10,376
- Leave her alone.
- Let her go!
758
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:11,310
- It means you've
got the freedom
759
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:12,480
to keep your mouth shut.
760
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:13,666
- Good luck with
that, Detective.
761
00:35:13,690 --> 00:35:14,756
- She has the right
to speak the truth.
762
00:35:14,780 --> 00:35:15,836
- Back up, everybody.
Back up, please.
763
00:35:15,860 --> 00:35:16,820
- Hey, what are
you doing to her?
764
00:35:16,860 --> 00:35:18,780
- Take a seat. Take a seat.
765
00:35:26,073 --> 00:35:29,118
- Mr. Lawson, could you please
766
00:35:29,143 --> 00:35:31,330
tell the members of the
jury about your relationship
767
00:35:31,380 --> 00:35:32,630
with the defendant.
768
00:35:34,210 --> 00:35:36,050
- She was my professor.
769
00:35:36,090 --> 00:35:37,396
- Did you have a
relationship with her
770
00:35:37,420 --> 00:35:38,970
outside of the
classroom as well?
771
00:35:43,810 --> 00:35:46,220
- She was also my mentor.
772
00:35:46,270 --> 00:35:50,650
- So you still feel a
strong affinity towards her?
773
00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:53,770
- Yes.
774
00:35:53,820 --> 00:35:55,650
- Permission to ask
leading questions.
775
00:35:56,690 --> 00:35:58,360
- Go ahead.
776
00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,650
- Did the defendant invite you
777
00:35:59,700 --> 00:36:02,660
to private study
sessions in her home?
778
00:36:04,580 --> 00:36:06,120
- Yes.
779
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,460
- Sometimes it was just the
two of you late at night.
780
00:36:08,500 --> 00:36:10,500
- Yes, sometimes. So what?
781
00:36:10,540 --> 00:36:12,130
- And she served you wine,
782
00:36:12,170 --> 00:36:13,726
talked about the plight
of the Palestinians.
783
00:36:13,750 --> 00:36:15,250
- It's important.
784
00:36:15,300 --> 00:36:17,050
And we both feel
passionately about that.
785
00:36:17,090 --> 00:36:18,550
- And, ultimately, the defendant
786
00:36:18,590 --> 00:36:20,470
urged you to kill Hudson
University president
787
00:36:20,510 --> 00:36:22,430
Nathan Alpert, didn't she?
788
00:36:22,470 --> 00:36:23,656
- Well, she may
have suggested it,
789
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,560
but it's not like
she forced me to.
790
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,470
- The defendant also
told you where Alpert
791
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:28,980
would be that night, correct?
792
00:36:29,020 --> 00:36:30,600
- I could have
found him on my own.
793
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,810
- She was angry
that Alpert banned
794
00:36:32,850 --> 00:36:34,480
the Palestinian
student organization,
795
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,730
so she told you
where he would be.
796
00:36:36,780 --> 00:36:39,650
She gave you a knife
from her kitchen.
797
00:36:39,690 --> 00:36:40,966
- I can't remember how I got it.
798
00:36:40,990 --> 00:36:42,320
- It came from her kitchen.
799
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:43,506
- Well, she may have
given it to me, but...
800
00:36:43,530 --> 00:36:45,870
- May or did?
801
00:36:48,910 --> 00:36:49,830
- Did.
802
00:36:54,250 --> 00:36:55,340
- Nothing further.
803
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,420
- Professor Nasser
wasn't with you
804
00:36:59,460 --> 00:37:01,340
when you killed
President Alpert?
805
00:37:01,380 --> 00:37:02,510
- That's correct.
806
00:37:02,550 --> 00:37:03,930
- You committed
this murder alone.
807
00:37:03,970 --> 00:37:06,680
You, not Professor
Nasser, plunged that knife
808
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:09,180
into Alpert's chest.
- Yes.
809
00:37:09,220 --> 00:37:10,850
It was just me.
810
00:37:10,890 --> 00:37:14,650
- And she never told you to
kill Alpert ever. Correct?
811
00:37:14,690 --> 00:37:15,916
- Like I said, she
suggested that...
812
00:37:15,940 --> 00:37:18,820
- But she never told you.
813
00:37:18,860 --> 00:37:20,990
- Correct.
- Nothing further.
814
00:37:23,240 --> 00:37:25,530
- So, to be clear, she suggested
815
00:37:25,570 --> 00:37:28,490
that you kill Alpert, and
then she gave you a knife.
816
00:37:38,590 --> 00:37:39,960
- Yes.
817
00:37:43,590 --> 00:37:45,680
- Nothing further.
People rest.
818
00:37:50,270 --> 00:37:52,060
- The Jewish elite
will stop at nothing
819
00:37:52,100 --> 00:37:54,230
in order to silence me.
- Why?
820
00:37:54,270 --> 00:37:55,900
- They're terrified
of Middle Easterners
821
00:37:55,940 --> 00:37:57,560
with a platform and a brain.
822
00:37:57,610 --> 00:37:59,770
So they'll do anything they can
823
00:37:59,820 --> 00:38:02,190
to squelch free
debate and expression,
824
00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:04,950
including these
baseless charges.
825
00:38:04,990 --> 00:38:06,410
- Professor Nasser, you believe
826
00:38:06,450 --> 00:38:07,990
this is a political prosecution?
827
00:38:08,030 --> 00:38:10,080
- That's for the jury to decide.
828
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,410
The defendant's beliefs about
this case are irrelevant.
829
00:38:13,460 --> 00:38:14,870
- See?
830
00:38:14,910 --> 00:38:16,880
I can't even speak my
truth in this courtroom.
831
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,790
- Sustained. Next question.
832
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,550
- Did you conspire
with Cam Lawson?
833
00:38:21,590 --> 00:38:24,050
- I did not.
- Give him a knife?
834
00:38:24,090 --> 00:38:25,680
Tell him to kill Nathan Alpert?
835
00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:27,090
- Absolutely not.
836
00:38:27,140 --> 00:38:28,640
- Thank you.
837
00:38:31,810 --> 00:38:34,930
- You use people...
838
00:38:34,980 --> 00:38:38,560
young, malleable students...
to fight your holy war.
839
00:38:38,610 --> 00:38:40,070
- That's a lie.
840
00:38:40,110 --> 00:38:42,690
- A number of your
students have been cited
841
00:38:42,730 --> 00:38:45,780
for tearing down posters
of Israeli hostages,
842
00:38:45,820 --> 00:38:48,530
for engaging in hateful,
anti-Semitic speech.
843
00:38:48,570 --> 00:38:50,700
Two of them even threatened
to hurt Jewish students,
844
00:38:50,740 --> 00:38:51,886
as they left the
campus Hillel House...
845
00:38:51,910 --> 00:38:53,660
- I have no knowledge of this.
846
00:38:53,700 --> 00:38:56,080
None.
847
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,000
Look, my lectures are emotional
848
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,170
and convincing based on facts.
849
00:39:02,210 --> 00:39:04,050
If students decide
to take action
850
00:39:04,090 --> 00:39:05,630
based on these facts, based on
851
00:39:05,670 --> 00:39:07,970
their own moral constitutions,
852
00:39:08,010 --> 00:39:10,140
there's nothing I can do.
853
00:39:10,180 --> 00:39:13,520
- You directed Cam Lawson
to kill Nathan Alpert.
854
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,020
You gave him a knife.
855
00:39:15,060 --> 00:39:16,406
You told him where Alpert
would be that night.
856
00:39:16,430 --> 00:39:17,850
- That's not true.
857
00:39:17,890 --> 00:39:19,416
- And when he was done
carrying out your wishes,
858
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,110
he came to your home
where you comforted him.
859
00:39:22,150 --> 00:39:24,360
- He told me what he
had done after the fact.
860
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:25,490
And I was proud of him.
861
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,750
- Proud?
862
00:39:36,790 --> 00:39:39,500
That a young man killed
a college president?
863
00:39:43,250 --> 00:39:44,800
- Yes.
864
00:39:51,590 --> 00:39:52,850
- Nothing further.
865
00:40:02,270 --> 00:40:04,190
- Please rise.
866
00:40:20,250 --> 00:40:22,880
- In the matter of
People v. Kendra Nasser,
867
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,800
has the jury reached a verdict?
868
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,340
- Yes, we have, Your Honor.
869
00:40:30,380 --> 00:40:32,590
- How do you find?
870
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,350
- We find the defendant...
871
00:40:34,390 --> 00:40:35,720
not guilty.
872
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,900
- I'd like to thank the
jury for your service.
873
00:40:44,940 --> 00:40:47,480
You are now excused.
874
00:41:00,290 --> 00:41:02,040
- My son is going to
prison for 10 years,
875
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,420
and that woman walks free?
876
00:41:08,340 --> 00:41:10,510
- Did you convince him
to kill President Alpert?
877
00:41:10,550 --> 00:41:12,300
- Miss Nasser, what is...
- Miss Nasser.
878
00:41:12,340 --> 00:41:13,986
- Do you plan to return
to Hudson University?
879
00:41:14,010 --> 00:41:16,100
- No comment.
880
00:41:16,140 --> 00:41:17,656
- Did your lectures
encourage violence?
881
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:18,640
- No comment.
882
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,190
- Miss Nasser.
883
00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:24,480
- At the very least, it's over.
884
00:41:26,020 --> 00:41:28,570
- It'll never be over.
885
00:41:28,610 --> 00:41:29,570
That's the problem.
886
00:41:31,070 --> 00:41:32,506
- Oh, what? You think it's
OK to kill innocent Jews?
887
00:41:32,530 --> 00:41:35,410
- Go to hell!
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