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A city unlike any other in the world. 4 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:36,400 It is impossible to determine whether its beauty resides more in history, 5 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,160 in its art or its monuments. 6 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,720 But the charm of this wonderful metropolis 7 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,240 is not to be found in these aspects alone. 8 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:51,480 Many alleys, streets, squares even some neighborhoods 9 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,800 Are rich in stories that are mixed with legends. 10 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,200 Suffice it to think to the myth of its founding. 11 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:04,520 Two brothers of divine lineage, abandoned on the banks of the Tiber, 12 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:09,200 and raised by a she-wolf who became the symbol of the city. 13 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,200 A legend so famous 14 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,360 That so many people think it's more real than it seems. 15 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,640 It is perhaps because of this that many of its mysteries 16 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,320 are related to myth and reality. 17 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:28,080 However, one of the most interesting and disturbing 18 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,440 resides just outside the city 19 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,520 and comes to life in a small medieval village 20 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:34,920 now abandoned. 21 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,040 Galeria Antica. Our journey starts from here. 22 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,320 With the help of a team of experts, 23 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,600 We will figure out how to find the truth 24 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,880 in the legend of this place. 25 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,640 In other words, we will prove 26 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,720 That the supernatural is more real than it may seem. 27 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,800 We find ourselves in an ancient city of Etruscan origin, 28 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,520 abandoned during the barbarian invasions 29 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,600 and then repopulated in the Middle Ages thanks to Pope Hadrian. 30 00:02:14,640 --> 00:02:19,280 From that time Galeria prospered under the auspices of various noble families. 31 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:20,760 This was until the 18th century 32 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,760 with the arrival of malaria which decimated the population 33 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:30,120 and forced the few survivors to abandon it permanently in 1809. 34 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,680 On a spur of tuff stone many dwellings rise 35 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,840 that once constituted the beating heart of Galeria 36 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,520 And which, by now, are overgrown by vegetation. 37 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,920 It is a place that because of its layout and geography 38 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,520 confuses you And makes you lose your bearings. 39 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,200 When you walk you have to be careful to where you put your feet 40 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:05,480 Because it is full of real dangers, hidden holes and cliffs. 41 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:10,280 This is precisely why Jacob and Vanessa have been here many times, 42 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,920 to memorize every stone and tree. 43 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:14,960 Vanessa, Jacob, 44 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,960 why did you choose this place to start this adventure ? 45 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,000 Well we chose it because it's a little bit like home. 46 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:28,720 It's a very esoteric, particular place. 47 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:33,160 But the whole vibeis good, though. It's really nice. It's peaceful. 48 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,840 You don't perceive any negative entities or presences. 49 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,680 The nice thing is that you lose the cognition of time a little bit. 50 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:48,040 You go in... You know when you go in But you don't really know when you come out. 51 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:53,960 The fact that it feels so peaceful and this positivity that the place conveys 52 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,120 surely depends on the fact that there are Wiccan symbols 53 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,560 Which are specifically for protecting the place. 54 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,200 This is very important. 55 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:07,520 However, the fact of losing your bearings a little bit 56 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,720 is a bit destabilizing, isn't it ? 57 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,240 It depends Because as she told you, 58 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:17,760 being a place that conveys positive feelings and positive energies 59 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:22,040 you don't get that sense of panic that in other places might take hold of you... 60 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,200 - Of bewilderment. - That's right. 61 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,640 So even if you find yourself passing several times in the same place 62 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,320 And whether you recognize it or not, it makes no difference. 63 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:31,400 You don't feel bad in fact, 64 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,640 what you feel Is the desire not to leave, to stay, 65 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,120 precisely because you're okay. 66 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,400 Wicca is the most widespread neopagan religion in the world 67 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,680 merging within it, in a kind of syncretism, 68 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:47,200 shamanic techniques, Druidic cults and folk and medieval beliefs. 69 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,760 Wiccans worship primarily nature and its cycles. 70 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,560 There are two symbols found mainly in the land. 71 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:59,000 The first is the Aegishjalmur, also known as the helmet of terror, 72 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:03,240 And it is a kind of star made of straight lines intersecting at the center 73 00:05:03,280 --> 00:05:05,840 And which bear, each at the end, a rune. 74 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,680 It is a classic symbol of protection for Viking warriors 75 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,360 Who used to draw it on their foreheads 76 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:16,800 to keep enemies away And instill fear in them. 77 00:05:16,840 --> 00:05:19,000 The second is the troll cross. 78 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:23,320 It is a clear sign of protection In the shape of the Odal rune 79 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,240 Which is used to instill protection 80 00:05:26,280 --> 00:05:31,480 against dark magic, against trolls and evil elves. 81 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,120 Was it malaria that infested this place? 82 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:38,880 That is the official story. But let's consider it together. Try to think. 83 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,160 People suddenly ran away. 84 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,960 Leaving behind all their personal belongings and the bodies of the deceased 85 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,600 They fled only 1 kilometer away. 86 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,320 Why only a kilometer If it was malaria ? 87 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,000 Why abandon everything so abruptly ? 88 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,480 Why are the bodies left in the church, 89 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,520 Which is the most consacrated place 90 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,480 Instead of taking them to some field, consecrate that and bury them there ? 91 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,000 Why everything happened so fast ? 92 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,120 It could be in reaction to a big scare, right ? 93 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:06,440 Correct. 94 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,520 Jacob and Vanessa will be accompanied by Enrico Oetiker, 95 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,720 an actor with a great passion for the supernatural. 96 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,320 His experience will consist in understanding 97 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,760 how to make contact with the spirits of the place. 98 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,280 He is a bit skeptical but he will soon have a chance to change his mind. 99 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,160 - Here we go. Hi. - Hi. 100 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:27,640 - Welcome - Thank you. 101 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,320 Are you ready? Do you know what awaits you? 102 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,840 - I haven't the faintest idea. - Have you ever talked to the dead? 103 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,560 Are you ready to do that? 104 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,360 - With the dead... - With the dead-- dead. 105 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,560 - I've never had that happen to me. - Well, there are many here. 106 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,760 So many have died here And not all of them are friendly. 107 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,040 Good. 108 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:54,000 Think about whether you have to spend death Where you have already spent life, in eternity. 109 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,920 - Perpetual lockdown. - Right. 110 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,720 We have to go there, of our own free will. 111 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:00,760 That's right. 112 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,920 - Now don't be... - I can't be bad. 113 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:05,800 - Tell him. - Don't be mean. 114 00:07:05,840 --> 00:07:08,880 - Seriously, we know the location. - Okay. 115 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,400 We have come there several times. 116 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,360 In general, the feelings are positive. 117 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,040 - Okay. - Okay ? 118 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:21,240 We will have a way to really talk to each other Because we have tools that we will use 119 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,640 To make a connection with these entities. 120 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,080 Sorry to interrupt, is there anything I need to know ? 121 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,280 - Sure. - Things to do or not to do ? 122 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,360 What you don't have to do Is leave them gifts 123 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,440 unless they are circular or spherical in shape 124 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,520 Because the object that you leave Would bind them to you since it is yours. 125 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:46,000 Then, when we leave the place, there will be a ritual phrase to say 126 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:47,880 But I'll tell you that one later in my own time. 127 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,360 As we move forward 128 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,960 I will instruct you in the correct behavior to keep here. 129 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,640 Thank you, you have already put my mind at ease a lot. 130 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,000 - You a little less, though... - And that's not the end of it. 131 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,480 Before leaving In search of the ghosts, 132 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,560 Jacob, Vanessa and Enrico get ready. 133 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,400 They will be equipped with flashlights and two-way radios. 134 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,760 Most importantly, each of them will wear a body-cam 135 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,800 to witness what they will see. 136 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,840 Their experience will still be documented by our crew 137 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,200 who will accompany them. 138 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,880 Enrico still seems to have some doubts about what he is going to do 139 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,040 But he will have time to change his mind. 140 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:36,280 As did all the people who have passed through these parts. 141 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:40,280 Alessia, on the other hand, will coordinate their actions from base camp 142 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,520 making sure that everything goes according to plan, 143 00:08:43,560 --> 00:08:45,080 following step by step 144 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:49,680 the communications that Jacob and Vanessa will hold with the local entities. 145 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,640 I wonder if they will turn out to be good... or evil 146 00:08:53,680 --> 00:08:55,120 Are you ready to go ? 147 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:56,520 I will stay at the base camp 148 00:08:56,560 --> 00:09:00,080 But I will stay in contact with you thanks to the two-way radios. 149 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:05,320 - 2020, no cell phone, huh ? - No, no... I'll explain right away. 150 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,120 The cell phone would interfere with the EK2 ghost box 151 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,400 And all the rest of the equipment. 152 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,960 We have to avoid that If we want to communicate with the entities. 153 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,120 No problem. 154 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:19,440 Perfect, just remember That if you needed anything at all, 155 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:23,480 you get in touch with me And I will call for help right away, okay ? 156 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,360 - Fine. - Help ? 157 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,280 - Don't worry about it. - Let's go come on ! 158 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,040 - Lights on, let's go ! - Bye, Alessia. 159 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,360 - Bye, Ale. - Bye. 160 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,120 I'll bring him back alive if I can 161 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:43,200 Galeria is a magical place, full of positive and negative energy. 162 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,320 The negative is trapped by individual Wiccans 163 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:50,320 put in place specifically to keep these negative entities at bay 164 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:54,120 While the positive, you are able to experience it at all times, 165 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:58,080 On whatever path you find yourself. 166 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,240 You feel it, you feel it inside, it stays with you. 167 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:05,320 - Do you feel that the humidity has already risen ? - So, do you come here often ? 168 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,120 - We came here many times. - Yes. 169 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:12,120 It is a special place, I'm sure you'll like it. 170 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:17,480 What about a nice evening at home with Netflix ? No, I'd rather come here... 171 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:21,920 No, look actually... 172 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:27,120 Our hope is to always find someone to interact with. 173 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,360 There are new stories. 174 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:35,040 In a way they enrich you inside. It's a chance to grow. 175 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:39,160 Now that we are coming to the actual entrance 176 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,080 I'll explain the etiquette, which is critical. 177 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,000 The rules of etiquette are paramount 178 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,000 And one should never forget them. 179 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,120 It's a bit like visiting a friend who is still alive. 180 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:54,720 We are going to his house and we have to behave with the utmost respect. 181 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,240 Enter, introduce ourselves, ask for permission 182 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,280 and especially don't snap at them 183 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,080 not even when provoked by some negative entity 184 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:08,840 - So they also have an etiquette ? - Yes, it is a form of respect. 185 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,000 You try to think entering someone else's house. 186 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,080 - So you go in and be respectful. - Sure. 187 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,400 From here already we should make a proper introduction, announcing ourselves, 188 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,680 Explaining that we are at peace and that we are friends. 189 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:29,520 Here we go. 190 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,880 This is Jacob. I ask your permission To enter your abode. 191 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:44,400 We are here in peace and friendship. We are here to communicate. 192 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:50,600 Enrico, come. 193 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,480 Do you understand Why I did this ? 194 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,800 I think so. To announce your presence ? 195 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,520 Very good. Let's go into their house. 196 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:15,960 Hear that ? 197 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,480 - Right ? Something screeching. - I heard it, too. 198 00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:25,720 Oh my, what a scare! It was as if something was falling. 199 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,480 - Well, welcome to Galeria ! - Just great, help. 200 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:32,440 It was unbelievable. 201 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:36,320 We heard a screech, a noise, I couldn't describe it. 202 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,440 Although we have been there many times, Vanessa and I, 203 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,800 had never heard that noise. 204 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,440 So, we could say that we got off on the right foot. 205 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,600 Stones, rocks, branches. 206 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:01,280 Be careful where you put your feet, the ground is not stable. 207 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,960 - Do I have to announce myself as well ? - Generally, yes. 208 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,600 Generally, you have to announce yourself. In this case it is not necessary. 209 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,360 You are in my group, I announced myself. 210 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,280 We are all covered By my presentation. 211 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,520 Are we already inside? 212 00:13:23,560 --> 00:13:26,280 - Yeah. - Yeah, we're already in. 213 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,400 It always has its charm. 214 00:13:35,680 --> 00:13:39,120 The construction Is just what it used to be. 215 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,440 Stones taken in various sizes And put there together. 216 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:47,240 Look at that structure ! Do you see these stones ? Placed one by one. 217 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,000 They used to pass through here, walked here, lived here. 218 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,000 There were hundreds of people And then all of a sudden... 219 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:58,760 All gone. 220 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:01,320 Evey one of them. 221 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:06,680 Let's see if I can feel anything. You know I have my ritual, right ? 222 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,280 Vanessa is very sensitive. 223 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:24,600 Some would call her "psychic." I prefer the term "sensitive." 224 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,960 So she can sense If there are different vibrations 225 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,760 In the energy around us. 226 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,520 Touching the walls, amplifies this feeling. 227 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,520 - Hmm... - Is it promising ? 228 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,240 I don't know whether to reassure him Or scare him. 229 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,800 I think he's scared enough on his own. 230 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:49,800 Here we go, Enrico. This is one of the most important spots in this place. 231 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,320 Have you ever seen one like this ? 232 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,960 This is a Norse-Viking symbol also used by the Wiccan religion. 233 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:03,040 It is a symbol of protection like so many others found at this location. 234 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,400 Is it a good thing ? Is it good that it's there ? 235 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,320 Yes, they keep negative forces away 236 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,240 - Good. - Let's go. 237 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:14,640 - That should put your mind at ease. - I already feel safer ! 238 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,720 The Aegishjalmur Is an ancient and most powerful symbol. 239 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:24,680 It really works, so much so that I covered myself with those, as you can see. 240 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,600 The advice I can give you Is to always keep it with you ! 241 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:34,480 Is this the core of the place, so to speak? 242 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:38,720 - This... Vanessa, you say it. - It is the old bell tower. 243 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,280 Here, when there was this... 244 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,400 - Departure ? - Yes, that's right. 245 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:51,600 Because of malaria, some of the dead were left here. 246 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,720 - Here we are. - We have arrived. 247 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,040 - Ghost box. - Ghost box ? 248 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,040 Which is... ? 249 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,880 It's the tool that we use to communicate with the entity. 250 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:46,000 It's a radio that scans AM frequencies, 251 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,640 200 per minute, backwards. 252 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,000 Then... whatever, now you will realize how it works. 253 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:58,880 This is a place... 254 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,640 Do you remember when I said. that they had brought the dead into the church ? 255 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:03,880 You're right there now. 256 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:11,360 When it starts, it will be very loud. 257 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,160 So don't get scared. 258 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,400 When you don't know, you get scared. 259 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,800 Actually there are other things that should scare you. 260 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:22,760 Okay. 261 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:30,120 As I was telling you, they were-- here they were... They actually dumped them in here, the bodies. 262 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,360 We decided To turn on the ghost box. 263 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:39,920 As every time, like clockwork It's like someone is greeting us. 264 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:45,680 There is always a sentence that starts the conversation, isn't there ? 265 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,400 As if to say: "Okay, you have arrived ! Are you there ?" 266 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,920 - Okay, I'm starting off, huh ? - Go. 267 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,800 - Shall I try to communicate with it ? - Yes, you are in charge. 268 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:09,080 As I told you before, she is "sensitive." others would say "psychic." 269 00:18:09,120 --> 00:18:10,440 Hello. 270 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:14,400 Jacob and Vanessa prepare to make contact 271 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:15,680 With one or more entities. 272 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,560 Their work now consists In looking for the right frequency 273 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,320 And find a communication channel using a radio. 274 00:18:23,360 --> 00:18:26,080 Does anyone wants to communicate with us ? 275 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,240 One ? 276 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:39,720 Is it on the right thing ? You are on FM, move to AM. 277 00:18:52,360 --> 00:18:56,440 While the ghost finders Are doing their job, 278 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,360 Enrico makes friends with the local wildlife. 279 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,760 Do you want to communicate with us ? 280 00:19:12,120 --> 00:19:14,560 Look who has come back to visit us. 281 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:19,200 You know the significance of cats in the esoteric world, don't you ? 282 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:23,600 Were they revered by the Egyptians because they had special qualities ? 283 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,400 The presence of the cat Is a positive presence 284 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,800 Contrary to popular belief. 285 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,120 The cat accompanies souls in their paths 286 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:36,640 And it also becomes the guardian Of the places where souls find refuge. 287 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,720 Is there anyone who wants to talk to us ? 288 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,720 "It's the entities." 289 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,640 Do the entities want to talk to us ? 290 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:47,960 "Almost." 291 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:15,800 - I think you have to change it. - No, it's the right one. 292 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:18,600 Stay tuned. 293 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,880 As Jacob explores the ruins, 294 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:31,400 Vanessa is still focused on finding the right way to communicate, 295 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,360 in front of Enrico's incredulous gaze. 296 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,680 Can you talk to us ? 297 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,240 We came in peace. 298 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,520 - Okay. - Okay. 299 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:54,280 Can we try to talk with Senza Affanni then ? 300 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:59,560 Senza Affanni is the ghost from a local legend. A... 301 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,200 - "No !" - What ? 302 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,640 - He said no. - No ? There is no Senza Affanni ? 303 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:05,480 "No !" 304 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,400 Why can't we talk with Senza Affanni ? 305 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,920 He is a minstrel. 306 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,240 On winter nights he walks back over the trail on horseback 307 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,640 In search of his beloved. 308 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,120 Try to take energy from these instruments. 309 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:27,120 Apparently hoofbeats can be heard. 310 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:31,720 Look, I'll shine a flashlight. Try to get energy from this. 311 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,000 - Isn't that... ? - What, it's not ? 312 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:38,840 I spoke over him. 313 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,360 Get energy from the instruments. 314 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,480 - "Make it disappear." - What should I make disappear ? 315 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,960 - What did he say ? - "In the sense of..." 316 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,480 - "Make it disappear." - What should I make disappear? 317 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,600 - Ask him what you need to make disappear. - What is it that we need to make disappear ? 318 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,240 - "You." - Why should I disappear ? 319 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,360 - A ? - Can you sense anything? 320 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,360 Can you catch any Of these words ? 321 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,520 Like a flat line. 322 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,280 "Let's hear." Did you hear that ? 323 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,800 That's right, and then like flashes. 324 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,760 Yes, some of the words Are really clear. 325 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,320 It was as if the entity was also curious about what you were feeling. 326 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,360 Look I'll just sit right here, I want to communicate with you. 327 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,120 We have come... Your cat friend is also here. 328 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:05,080 - I heard "Virginia", twice ! - Really ? 329 00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:08,480 - The cat will be called Virginia. - Are you here? 330 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:10,920 Did you hear her ? 331 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:17,120 Vanessa continues the dialogue with one of the entities of Galeria Antica. 332 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,400 Being a psychic is definitely helpful to her 333 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,680 To avoid steering the communication 334 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,640 In a wrong direction. 335 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,120 The consequences could be irreversible. 336 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,400 Can you tell us your name ? 337 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,120 - "Grandfather?" - No. 338 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,480 - Did you hear that? - He said three no's. 339 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,080 Oh !"No, no, no" ? 340 00:23:43,120 --> 00:23:44,960 Why won't you tell us your name ? 341 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,880 I want to talk With Senza Affanni. 342 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,040 Sorry, may I repeat ? I heard "fuck off". 343 00:24:09,360 --> 00:24:10,960 Sorry ! 344 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,880 I keep hearing swear words, guys. 345 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:24,120 Can you tell us a word that lets us know that you know Enrico ? 346 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,440 "Northerner." 347 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,480 I am Swiss. 348 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,560 Northerner ! Without even knowing where he came from ! Northerner ! 349 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,520 Is there anything more to add ? 350 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,600 - What was that voice ? - Every now and then it would call... 351 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,240 Can you tell us more about him ? 352 00:24:58,600 --> 00:24:59,680 What ? 353 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:02,640 Ex ? 354 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,560 Something clearer please. 355 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,000 It is also difficult to communicate 356 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:17,520 Because of the symbols that are placed here, which is the reason why... 357 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,480 Are they disturbing ? 358 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:20,640 - Yes. - Good. 359 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,440 We chose a quiet place. Maybe too much so. 360 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,080 If I teased you a little bit maybe you could give me an answer ? 361 00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:37,560 Will you tell me who you are ? 362 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,800 "No !" A sharp answer. No. 363 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,040 Who are you ? 364 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,400 I am Vanessa, who are you ? 365 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,200 "Abram?" Try introducing yourself, Enrico. 366 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,360 - Do I speak close ? - Yes, try. 367 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,800 Hi. I am Enrico. Do you want to tell me your name ? 368 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,080 Do you want to talk to me ? 369 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,200 - Certainly. - Certainly. 370 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:21,520 It's a woman. 371 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,640 Am I talking to a woman ? 372 00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:30,440 - Luca ? - He is a man. He said it before, too. 373 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:37,400 Insist. 374 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,240 Do you want to talk to me ? 375 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,640 Enrico has come on purpose To talk to you. 376 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,360 "Hello." Did you hear that ? 377 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,640 Are you here with us ? 378 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,840 How many of you are there ? I want to know how many of you are... 379 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,840 - "Five." - Five. 380 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:42,960 Did you hear that ? 381 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,480 I can hear you. Are you here near me ? 382 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,480 "The symbols." Did you hear him say "the symbols" ? 383 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,680 Yes, we saw the symbols. They probably bother you. 384 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,320 I saw fit to walk away. 385 00:28:22,360 --> 00:28:25,640 I thought I was the one creating interference with the ghost box. 386 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,080 We needed to communicate. 387 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,960 Are you good entities or bad entities ? 388 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,200 "Bad." You heard it too, very clear. 389 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,200 - Did he say "bad" ? - Yes, Enrico heard it too. 390 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,520 That's why they struggle to communicate. 391 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,480 You know perfectly well That we are not afraid of you. 392 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:20,840 Have you been confined here ? 393 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:25,800 "There you go..." 394 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:28,880 "Don't mind..." 395 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,080 What are you doing, not talking now ? 396 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,800 If you see it going on red It means that there is something. 397 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,480 "Always you." Yes, it's always me. 398 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,280 "Oh God..." 399 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,200 Did you hear that ? "Oh God..." 400 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,280 Maybe you want to talk to an old friend. Let's call him that. 401 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,560 - OK. - OK. 402 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,160 But what if I move the ring ? 403 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,640 "Eeeh..." 404 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,760 you have been really bad hosts anyway 405 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,720 because you didn't even introduce yourselves to Enrico. 406 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,840 "There is no reason." Did he say there is no reason ? 407 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,120 "It's just that I'm..." 408 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:52,640 "And I don't..." 409 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:54,840 "It is a name that..." 410 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,480 All right. I think that... 411 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,560 - Do we want to stop here ? - Yes. 412 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,760 - We say goodbye to them. - Yes, you are bad guys. He said "bad guys." 413 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,160 Enrico, when we say hello to them, 414 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,760 we have to remind them That they don't have to follow us. 415 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,960 The beautiful thing was right at the end. 416 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,040 When we decided to stop 417 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:34,400 because it didn't seem to be giving us any kind of interaction, 418 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,840 "bad guys" was clearly heard. 419 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:37,840 So... well. 420 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,840 They were almost sorry and so were we, a little bit. 421 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,160 Also because if they are bad... 422 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:52,000 Yes, let's do it in turn. You close and I'll close last. 423 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:57,960 We say goodbye to you. You stay here and we leave. 424 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:05,240 We say goodbye to you. You stay here and we leave. 425 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:12,240 So, I didn't expect... 426 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,280 The fact of finding a wall, basically. 427 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,680 You didn't want to communicate Or even take energy. 428 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:25,520 Look at the bee ! Look at the bee ! It is above me ! 429 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,560 Do you see it ? 430 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,080 Explain this thing about the bees. 431 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:37,120 Don't point the light at it. I'll tell you why. 432 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,000 It is not an unusual thing 433 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,720 But the lights at night make them aggressive. 434 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:49,920 You wait here but don't follow me. Don't follow me or them. 435 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,040 At night they sleep But they sense the light. 436 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,120 - For them it's like I'm attacking them. - Yes. 437 00:32:55,160 --> 00:33:00,120 Vanessa and Jacob end communication with the entities of Galeria 438 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,000 offering their greetings. 439 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,600 Etiquette is always an important thing 440 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,280 especially if you have to talk to a ghost. 441 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:10,600 Is it yours ? 442 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,880 Okay. Too bad though, they were... 443 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:18,840 Let's not point the light at it. 444 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,160 Now maybe in the dark You give yourself a little shake and she'll fly away. 445 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,240 Yeah, I don't know how much it affects on what I'm going to say 446 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,200 The fact that I'm like this, 447 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,920 that we are here And we just did this thing 448 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:35,280 However, I think I heared that, as he was skipping frequencies, 449 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,160 he spelled out my last name, and it's not like my name is Rossi or Bianchi. 450 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,720 - Sure. - I don't know if I am just fooling myself. 451 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,160 - That would be interesting to clean up the audio. - Absolutely. 452 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,480 See if I imagined it. 453 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,600 Self-deception is always the first among the possibilities. 454 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:53,480 But by cleaning up the audio we can find out if you heard it or if it was your imagination. 455 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:58,360 However, it is probable, it is possible that you actually heard it 456 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,080 And that they actually said it. 457 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:05,720 Let's also remember that he showed up and that he wanted to communicate, 458 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,720 She told him, "certainly." 459 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,320 - It's true. - So maybe he liked you. 460 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,480 - He didn't want to talk to us. - We have... 461 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,960 I don't know if it's good, they are bad And I didn't want them to like me. 462 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,640 They are not always like that, he said he was bad because he was... 463 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,800 - That one there specifically. - Exactly. 464 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:26,680 Consider that there is also the Fugitive here. 465 00:34:26,720 --> 00:34:32,160 It is a specter, an entity that we interacted with, 466 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:39,320 Who wished to escape from this place While these symbols confine them here. 467 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:45,920 From the crossroads, he gave us the exact number of steps to get to the entrance. 468 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,560 At the first archway. 469 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,960 Counted the number of stones from the bottom 470 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,240 To ask us to remove one at a particular point. 471 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:54,480 Did it bother him ? 472 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,840 No, not to him, to everyone, because there was a closing symbol. 473 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,960 He asked you to move the sign That held him there. 474 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,520 - So he could get out. - Yes. 475 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,280 - We stopped in time. - There's all kinds of entities here. 476 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,040 From the child who died from malaria Or something else, 477 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:16,440 To the mother, the torturer, the delinquent, the vagrant. 478 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,000 - There are so many souls here. - So many personalities. 479 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,440 The moment you are addressed by one of these 480 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,000 And it tells you it's bad, it is. 481 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,280 - For sure he is. - Shall I take him home tonight ? 482 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,880 Leave nothing behind And you won't take anything back with you. 483 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,080 Besides, we told him to stay here, didn't we ? 484 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:39,160 Then, although here there were all those bodies left behind, 485 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,960 it was still a sacred place. 486 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,800 So, it's quiet, protected. More or less. 487 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,840 There are other spots in this place That despite the symbols... 488 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,400 - Are more exposed ? - Correct. 489 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,760 Despite the symbols, so imagine how much... 490 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,600 - Charge ? - Negative. 491 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,560 Shall we go find some more ? 492 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,240 - Are you up for it ? Come on ! - Go on, we're in it now. 493 00:36:13,240 --> 00:36:14,960 Once again, 494 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,200 Vanessa proved to be very communicative with the entities. 495 00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:22,720 Every time there was her voice, there was a subsequent interaction. 496 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,720 Enrico was able to see it 497 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,040 And he was surprised, very surprised. 498 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,760 How surprised he was ! 499 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,160 In fact, later, with the cameras off, 500 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:36,520 since there were so many of us and that made communication difficult, 501 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,560 However, with the cameras off, 502 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,800 Enrico told us what was his fear. 503 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,400 His emotion, yes. Emotion is the right word. 504 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:52,480 Enrico became emotional And he expressed this feeling to us. 505 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:56,680 He also had tears in his eyes. But it's cool, you know. 506 00:36:56,720 --> 00:36:59,400 These are things that can happen, these are investigations. 507 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,000 You never know what's coming. 508 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,600 So, especially for the first one, 509 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,760 Hearing yourself called by your last name is not a common thing. 510 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,920 Also because it didn't call by his last name 511 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,400 Someone to whom he introduced himself 512 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,760 Or someone else who was present. 513 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,680 No, it was someone who was on the other side, in every sense. 514 00:37:19,720 --> 00:37:23,720 Then, on the way back towards the base camp, 515 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,440 he calmed down a bit. 516 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,400 We explained to him That by not taking anything away 517 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,120 he was not taking any risk. 518 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:34,560 The entity that had come into contact with him was not a negative one, 519 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,960 So that relaxed him. 520 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,400 Despite the insistence of Vanessa, 521 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,560 Enrico prefers to return to base camp. 522 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,920 You can tell that the experience has tested him a bit. 523 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,880 He needs to rationalize what he has just witnessed. 524 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,920 Thank you for welcoming us. 525 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,880 We go now and you stay here. 526 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:16,840 - Hello Ale. - Welcome back. 527 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,120 - Hello, Ale. - Hello ! 528 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,600 Well ? How did it go? 529 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,720 - How was the experience ? - Yeah, how was it ? 530 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,400 Definitely strange. It was not a normal experience. 531 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,680 There was a moment with the ghost box, 532 00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:35,960 I don't know if my mind was playing tricks at me 533 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,520 and how much actually happened, 534 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,720 However, there was a moment where it became apparent to me 535 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,920 That there was like a discussion between these entities 536 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,480 About me. 537 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:52,120 When I was called by Jacob and Vanessa, 538 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,960 I clearly heard comments. 539 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,240 I would be curious to listen to them again To see how much and whether I imagined that. 540 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,440 It sounded as if these entities were arguing about me. 541 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,920 I heard for example: "You are a narcissist." 542 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:10,160 I can tell you that we had the feeling of hearing words 543 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,680 though, of course, as we usually do, 544 00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:16,680 we reserve the right to listen to the audio more carefully and clean it up. 545 00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:18,600 - With the clean audio. - Correct. 546 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,080 It's reconnecting a little bit, 547 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,640 a lot has happened in a period of time that by the way... 548 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,880 You were saying the altered space-time cognition 549 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:31,840 We went in at six o'clock, I heard now from the production manager. 550 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,880 Now coming out, it seemed to me 15 minutes had passed, 551 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,760 Instead it's past ten o'clock 552 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,120 So I'm a little bit dazed. 553 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,040 Another crazy thing Is that when we finished, 554 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,600 I was a little bit disappointed because I didn't have very clear perceptions. 555 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,920 I looked down and there was a bee Walking on my leg. 556 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,160 Now I don't know if one necessarily wants to look for signs where there are none 557 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,440 However, a bee at night I have never seen. 558 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,000 The bee has an explanation. 559 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,760 Although one may at first be suggested 560 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,200 and believe that it is a supernatural thing, 561 00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:07,880 Actually, if the bees are caught At night with artificial light, 562 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,600 they react as if it were an attack. 563 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,160 - For the hive ? - Correct. 564 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,240 It's like there is an invasion So they go out. 565 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,720 They check first and then, if necessary, they attack. 566 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,800 - Yours was just checking, fortunately. - Perfect. 567 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:28,320 Was it difficult to make contact, a connection with them tonight ? 568 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,480 Were they particularly inclined ? 569 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,240 No, it was a little difficult. 570 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,360 I don't know if that happened because of the newcomer 571 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,080 - Did you ask permission on entering ? - Yes, of course. 572 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,560 - The bon-ton, the rules. - Yes, I followed all the etiquette. 573 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,240 - I don't know, maybe because there were so many of us. - Yes. 574 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,040 - Do you feel calm ? Or are you restless ? - I am calm. 575 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:55,680 No, I'm quite... I don't carry anything negative with me. 576 00:40:55,720 --> 00:40:57,160 Of negative, of heavy. 577 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,040 There, there is a special feeling, Of electricity in the air. 578 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,120 I am calmer now, though. 579 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:07,400 Here we are, in the midst of today's artificial things. 580 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:09,400 Yeah, come on. 581 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,000 All in all. it was a good experience, wasn't it ? 582 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,800 I wouldn't say I'd do it again. If you say: "Shall we do it again ?" No, that was enough for me. 583 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,280 Over dinner, over dinner. 584 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,160 I think tonight you guys were also quite nice 585 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,960 In seeking this form of communication. 586 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,680 I don't think it's like that for everybody. 587 00:41:28,720 --> 00:41:31,920 They also get disturbed sometimes 588 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:37,800 By people entering a place which is rightfully theirs. 589 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,760 - Exactly. - It is their home. 590 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,840 Are they a little wary ? 591 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,680 Consider this. 592 00:41:43,720 --> 00:41:46,800 Communication tends to be stronger and more intense 593 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,400 When the entity is negative, as we said before we started. 594 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:55,200 Here, thanks in part to the symbols present, positivity reigns. 595 00:41:55,240 --> 00:42:00,720 Even when they manifest as villains, and we heared "bad", 596 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:05,480 They do not have the strength to induce discomfort. 597 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:10,800 So one cannot leave With negative feelings from this place. 598 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:15,560 There are other places where the negative feeling already pervades you from afar. 599 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,600 Good thing I was the protagonist of this episode. 600 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,000 But still... 601 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,440 Is there anything that has stuck with you ? 602 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,320 Something particular or that you didn't expect ? 603 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,280 Actually a lot of little things. 604 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,720 Earlier, with the cameras off, Jacob was telling me. 605 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:38,200 That when you are in the presence Of these entities 606 00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:41,560 you should leave something circular 607 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,360 into which these entities can be enclosed 608 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,880 So if anything, leave something circular or spherical. 609 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:52,080 As soon as I entered the spot... I don't know what it's called. 610 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,560 - In the obelisk place. - The obelisk place. 611 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,480 In the cavity of the wall, 612 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,200 I saw melted wax and a wedding ring, a ring left there. 613 00:43:01,240 --> 00:43:04,720 It hit me because as soon as I walked in, I saw this thing. 614 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:10,040 - Then, yes. The feeling of coldness. - Did you feel a chill on you ? 615 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:14,120 - Almost the whole time. - It came to me and then to you. 616 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,920 It came down from below Instead of coming from where it should. 617 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,800 - Does it happen ? - Yes, it can happen. 618 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:23,080 When there are entities, usually the temperature falls. 619 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:27,200 - The wind picks up. - What things can happen ? 620 00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:31,480 Many: gusts of wind, yes, of very cold wind. 621 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:35,720 The temperatures drop steeply. 622 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,200 That's why we go With our detectors 623 00:43:39,240 --> 00:43:43,400 That really help us to navigate from one environment to another. 624 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:44,920 Is there no explanation ? 625 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,400 I always explain that with airdrafts. 626 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,560 So the warm air goes up, cold air goes down. 627 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,280 Cold air starts from the bottom And you can feel it. 628 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,400 However, of course, 629 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,880 Someone could say that these are explanations That make me... 630 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,440 I mean, that I'm grabbing at straws, 631 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,320 However, I always look for the rational explanation. 632 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:12,640 As for the bees. Bees at night They attack the artificial light. 633 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:17,880 So the cold currents are lower, and you feel them from below 634 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,840 There are a number of explanations, and I find them. 635 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,040 They are not, let's say 636 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,880 100% reliable, but what is ? 637 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,400 Then there's the cat. The cat came... 638 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,080 The little furry guardian. 639 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,280 - He came... - He stood beside me. 640 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:38,600 Yes, yes. 641 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,040 The nicest thing Is that as we were leaving, 642 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,720 It seemed to have taken a tour scouting 643 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,080 To make sure no one was left behind. 644 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,440 And then he followed us on the way back to the base camp. 645 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:50,520 - Now he's with us. - Yes. 646 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,360 Eating sandwiches. 647 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,040 Wandering around, yes. Disturbing. 648 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,280 Definitely... 649 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:04,480 Let's say that having a first experience here is less traumatic than having it elsewhere. 650 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,840 - Definitely. - It was a preparation. 651 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,200 - Very good. - Easy. 652 00:45:08,240 --> 00:45:10,200 - You did the internship. - Good thing. 653 00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:11,400 Would you do it again ? 654 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:16,800 Here, in this condition, I happen to do it again, like this, yes. 655 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,560 I am afraid of everything That is bigger than me. 656 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,920 If I were to see something moving, 657 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,120 Or physically see a presence... 658 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,840 It scares you because you believe it, because you don't understand it ? 659 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,560 - You can't explain it to yourself ? - I believe it. 660 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,000 Clearly I couldn't explain it, 661 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,920 Above all, I have a deep respect for what I do not know fully. 662 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,200 Anyone should have respect For what he does not know. 663 00:45:39,240 --> 00:45:41,360 When it comes to these things, 664 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,840 I can't be 100% sure, but when in doubt... 665 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,680 - Sure. - They're fine there, that's it. 666 00:45:47,720 --> 00:45:49,680 Let's also look on the bright side. 667 00:45:49,720 --> 00:45:52,200 The fact that we took you there... 668 00:45:52,240 --> 00:45:56,520 We did studies that, I mean... 669 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,280 Let's look on the bright side... 670 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,080 - It was a seagull, what was it ? - Yes. 671 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:06,160 - The famous "silver lining." - Nobody brought anything with them. 672 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:10,680 We were saying that we try to see the history of a place as well, 673 00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:14,640 just to document ourselves and not arrive unprepared. 674 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:19,400 And also becausethe abandoned place is fine, however you should always have a... 675 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,960 - If you don't know... - An idea. 676 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,840 If you don't know the history of the place, 677 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,680 you don't know how to relate With the souls that inhabit it. 678 00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:30,000 - Exactly. - You must know what century they lived in. 679 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,160 What were their ways, So that you could relate better. 680 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,600 Everything requires some studying before beginning. 681 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,920 We do not recommend anyone to do this... 682 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,800 Without due precautions. 683 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:48,280 That is, with shields and equipment... 684 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:54,400 A base camp where, just in case, someone could call for help. 685 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:58,280 - We don't recommend doing it at home, of course. - Yes. 686 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,120 Let's emphasize this. 687 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:04,400 Don't do this at home because if you don't have the right preparation... 688 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,720 Is it possible to get trapped ? 689 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:11,040 - Trapped, that's right... - He could take it with him. 690 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,040 - It's always dangerous. - Yes. 691 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:14,880 It is a forsaken and dark place. 692 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,520 It is easier to enter into communication with a negative entity 693 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:19,840 Than with a positive one. 694 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,960 - Why do you think so ? - They have more anger. 695 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,360 Has there not been a definitive passing ? 696 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,080 - Correct. - A peaceful passing. 697 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:35,360 It tends to be those who perish by a traumatic or violent death 698 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,520 Who become trapped here. 699 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:43,560 Not he who dies in peace Or who receives a decent burial. 700 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:48,480 So the anger of the living being Lingers in that entity 701 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,560 And you risk carrying it around. 702 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,360 It is also due to the fact that, maybe, 703 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:58,920 these people who die violent deaths Who get trapped and are more... 704 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,840 More obvious and want maybe a contact with... 705 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,760 With living people ? 706 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:14,480 Maybe it is also related to the fact That their loved ones won't let them leave 707 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,080 because they have not passed away peacefully ? 708 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,560 Is it sometimes their loved ones who tend to trap these people ? 709 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,400 In the case of recent deaths, it is a possibility. 710 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,320 - But here we're talking about... - Yes, of course. 711 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:31,320 These are people who by now I don't think have any loved ones still living. 712 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,800 I think the loved ones are gone with them. 713 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,040 However what you say is correct. 714 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,600 Often that desire of the living 715 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,360 binds here the souls Of those who want to leave. 716 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,320 - They don't let them leave ? - Yeah. 717 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:48,440 The saddest aspect However, also more usual. - Yeah. 718 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:53,440 - What are your emotions, Enrico ? - Right now, they are so many. 719 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:57,920 I can't even tell how long we were in there 720 00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,920 We went in around sundown 721 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,000 And now they just told me that it's past ten o'clock. 722 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,880 We were in there for four hours And it felt like ten minutes. 723 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,560 That's a lot of things In an unquantifiable amount of time 724 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,200 So I should get a hold of myself a little bit. 725 00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:17,480 There were moments when I felt a sharp chill. 726 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:23,760 - I felt an electricity in the air. - Did you get scared ? 727 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,160 More than scared, 728 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,960 it's as if some parts of me that I didn't know were activated. 729 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,760 So I was feeling a little strange, dazed. 730 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,760 A little bit of tingling and shivering. 731 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,520 Then yes, there was the whole moment of the ghost box 732 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:44,400 With all the words, however confused they came out, 733 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,960 Especially when it came to me. 734 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,360 Maybe because I was paying more attention. 735 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,080 Were you able to make something out ? 736 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:56,040 - I was able to make out some comments about me. - What did they say to you ? 737 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,120 A woman told me that I was handsome. I thank her. 738 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,320 - If you are whatching me... - Your ego... 739 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,320 A new fan, see. 740 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:08,240 Another one, who disagreed, Who said I was narcissistic. 741 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,520 Then they said they were bad... 742 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,600 There were times when I said, "Oh my God." 743 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,520 - Were they bad or... - They were. 744 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:21,480 I asked them, "Are you guys bad ?" And they repeated, " Bad guys, bad guys." 745 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,840 - Gee ! - Yes. It was crazy ... 746 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:29,440 Jacob had told me. That they had an experience with bees. 747 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,320 I had a bee on my leg. 748 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:35,960 Then I found a ring in a gap ... You were explaining to me... 749 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:40,400 Yes, if you bring gifts Or if you leave something behind, 750 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,520 That should absolutely be circular or spherical. 751 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,720 It is the shapes that trap the entity. 752 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,440 Any other kind of gift or forgotten object 753 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:55,840 Would bind to the one who forgot it or the giver to the entity itself. 754 00:50:55,880 --> 00:51:02,080 So the giver Takes the entity home and it's not nice 755 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:07,440 Since those who tend to communicate more are the bad ones and not the good ones. 756 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,240 Otherwise everything would be less scary. 757 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:14,640 - Do you have to leave them every time ? - No, in fact it is not recommended. 758 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,120 It is recommended to use only etiquette, 759 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,920 So you introduce yourself when you come in, as we did, 760 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,960 you say goodbye when you leave, thanking for the hospitality. 761 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,240 But it is never wise to leave stuff or take anything away. 762 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,560 - Have you guys ever done it ? - I'll tell you about it next time. 763 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,080 It wasn't nice, of course. 764 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,720 Why, had you forgotten some items ? 765 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:41,040 We were intimidated by the presence we found. 766 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:42,760 Did you want to appease her ? 767 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,040 No, we forgot something in our pockets running away. 768 00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,200 You took it home... 769 00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:52,240 That's right, for a few months it was not nice what we experienced. 770 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,480 You didn't know that though. 771 00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,920 - We figured it out. - Did you not realize it then ? 772 00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,960 We didn't realize until later. 773 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,600 In the meantime were strange things happening at home ? 774 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,480 - Exactly. - Like what ? 775 00:52:06,240 --> 00:52:09,440 How can we put it... 776 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,840 So much bad luck all at once. 777 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:17,120 When it's like that, so many times one starts to wonder, "didn't we maybe...." And whatever. 778 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,200 This is also the reason Of that constant urge... 779 00:52:20,240 --> 00:52:21,480 - To look for them. - It's true. 780 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:25,800 Hoping that nothing had fallen. "Where is my flashlight ? Who has it ?" 781 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:30,080 At one point, I thought Michael Jackson was with us. 782 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,240 Yes, all choreographed because you never know ! 783 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:34,680 You didn't leave any objects ? 784 00:52:34,720 --> 00:52:37,640 I didn't leave anything, nothing. God forbid ! 785 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,840 He was very careful And he did very well. 786 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,720 He followed everything to the letter, so... 787 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,840 Then he immediately empathized with his fan. 788 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,320 Yes, I have something going on, here in Galeria. 789 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:52,200 Do you now? 790 00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:56,720 Should my relationship go wrong, I know that I have a suitor here among the ruins. 791 00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,720 However, you would have to deal With the person who called you a narcissist. 792 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,160 - Yes. - Yeah. 793 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,040 - I'd rather not. - Yeah. 794 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,400 I don't think there's any risk of me coming back here anyway. 795 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:07,880 - Unless... - No, no. 796 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,720 Unless you do that like this, come on. 797 00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:15,320 Maybe so. If you guys are there again, With Alessia waiting for me with the bonfire and all, 798 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:16,320 then maybe I would. 799 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,960 Let's say that, by myself, I'd rather choose other shores, other destinations. 800 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,520 Right, that's cool. 801 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,920 I would say that it was a positive first experience. 802 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:28,840 - Yes, definitely. Yes. - We did it! 803 00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,040 - Yes we did... - We are satisfied. 804 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,520 You also changed your mind. You started off... 805 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:38,240 Little by little, we will start to rationalize again. 806 00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:39,280 Yes, yes. 807 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,320 How are you coming home compared to before ? 808 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:45,040 I came here, scared to death, 809 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,320 and convinced that there might be things. 810 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,200 I definitely had my doubts about the whole thing. 811 00:53:50,240 --> 00:53:52,480 Now it's as if I've added a piece 812 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,920 to a mosaic that I will never be able to put together 813 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,760 Have you unraveled a little something ? 814 00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:01,800 Something though, a few more pieces of the puzzle 815 00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,480 - Entities are not just horror movies. - Here. 816 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,000 - To be handled with care. - Correct. 817 00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,440 In the following days, 818 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,400 Jacob and Vanessa cleaned up the audio of the recordings. 819 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,320 However, due to the nature of the content, 820 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,400 have decided not to release the material. 65295

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