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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:36,703 --> 00:00:41,072 I'm looking for a place that will "collect, clip, bath," and return my dog... 2 00:00:41,341 --> 00:00:45,539 "KN1-7727, cigarettes and tobacco." 3 00:00:47,013 --> 00:00:50,449 "Animals and birds bought or sold on commission." 4 00:00:51,084 --> 00:00:55,418 I want a dog that's gonna collect and clean my bath, return my cigarette... 5 00:00:55,622 --> 00:00:59,649 and give tobacco to my animals and then give my birds a commission. 6 00:00:59,759 --> 00:01:02,455 I'm looking for somebody to sell my dog... 7 00:01:02,595 --> 00:01:06,224 collect my clip, buy my animal, and straighten out my bird. 8 00:01:06,332 --> 00:01:08,823 I'm looking for a place to bathe my bird... 9 00:01:09,803 --> 00:01:12,601 buy my dog, collect my clip... 10 00:01:13,740 --> 00:01:16,402 sell me cigarettes and commission my bath. 11 00:01:16,509 --> 00:01:19,034 I'm looking for a place that's going to collect my commission... 12 00:01:19,145 --> 00:01:22,171 sell my dog, burn my bird, and sell me to the cigarette. 13 00:01:22,282 --> 00:01:27,015 Going to bird my buy, collect my will, and bathe my commission. 14 00:01:27,253 --> 00:01:30,245 I'm looking for a place that's going to animal my soul... 15 00:01:30,356 --> 00:01:33,792 knit my return, bathe my foot, and collect my dog. 16 00:01:33,993 --> 00:01:38,453 Commission me to sell my animals, to the bird to clip and buy my bath... 17 00:01:38,565 --> 00:01:40,362 and return me back to the cigarettes. 18 00:01:52,912 --> 00:01:56,313 These are all protest songs. Now, come on. 19 00:02:00,253 --> 00:02:03,882 This is not British music, it's American music. Now, come on. 20 00:02:14,701 --> 00:02:19,195 When you're lost in the rain in Juarez 21 00:02:19,305 --> 00:02:22,331 And it's Eastertime too 22 00:02:25,445 --> 00:02:28,539 When your gravity's down 23 00:02:28,781 --> 00:02:31,443 And negativity don't get you through 24 00:02:35,622 --> 00:02:38,352 Just don't put on any airs 25 00:02:39,058 --> 00:02:43,518 When you're down on Rue Morgue Avenue 26 00:02:46,466 --> 00:02:49,663 They got some hungry women there 27 00:02:49,769 --> 00:02:53,136 And they really make a mess out of you 28 00:03:04,517 --> 00:03:06,075 Sweet Melinda 29 00:03:06,719 --> 00:03:10,246 The peasants call her the goddess of gloom 30 00:03:13,459 --> 00:03:16,121 She speaks good English 31 00:03:18,531 --> 00:03:19,520 My left fingertips? 32 00:03:19,632 --> 00:03:21,623 - Yeah, let me feel them. - Good God, man. 33 00:03:22,035 --> 00:03:23,229 What? 34 00:03:30,009 --> 00:03:32,705 And picking up Angel 35 00:03:32,812 --> 00:03:36,145 Who just arrived here from the coast 36 00:03:39,519 --> 00:03:42,352 Who looked so fine at first 37 00:03:43,523 --> 00:03:48,290 But left looking just like a ghost 38 00:03:51,631 --> 00:03:52,689 Bob! 39 00:04:10,283 --> 00:04:13,150 Every single one of them. That's... 40 00:04:15,922 --> 00:04:17,981 That's all I do, is protest. 41 00:04:33,706 --> 00:04:37,802 The March on Washington was not only a moment of extreme hopefulness... 42 00:04:37,910 --> 00:04:41,744 it was a moment of the confirmation of the possibility... 43 00:04:42,248 --> 00:04:44,443 of that hope becoming a reality. 44 00:04:44,550 --> 00:04:49,249 That was the moment of recognition... 45 00:04:49,422 --> 00:04:52,255 of what people could do to change history. 46 00:04:52,592 --> 00:04:54,219 I have a dream... 47 00:04:55,128 --> 00:04:56,652 that one day... 48 00:04:57,797 --> 00:05:00,197 this nation will rise up... 49 00:05:01,501 --> 00:05:03,992 and live out the true meaning of its creed.; 50 00:05:05,271 --> 00:05:08,035 "We hold these truths to be self-evident... 51 00:05:08,675 --> 00:05:10,643 "that all men are created equal." 52 00:05:10,743 --> 00:05:13,439 I was up close when King was giving that speech. 53 00:05:13,913 --> 00:05:16,711 To this day it still affects me in a profound way. 54 00:05:17,317 --> 00:05:20,343 I would like now to introduce a young singer... 55 00:05:21,254 --> 00:05:24,018 from New York, Bob Dylan. 56 00:05:28,961 --> 00:05:30,952 I looked out the podium, I looked out at the crowd... 57 00:05:31,064 --> 00:05:32,497 and I remember thinking to myself.; 58 00:05:32,598 --> 00:05:35,089 "Man, I've never seen such a large crowd." 59 00:05:35,201 --> 00:05:39,638 Oh the time will come up When the winds will stop 60 00:05:39,739 --> 00:05:43,197 And the breeze will cease to be breathing 61 00:05:44,043 --> 00:05:48,377 Like the stillness in the wind Before the hurricane begins 62 00:05:48,681 --> 00:05:51,946 The hour that the ship comes in 63 00:05:52,418 --> 00:05:56,582 Free at last, free at last, thank God Almighty. 64 00:05:56,689 --> 00:05:58,156 We are free at last. 65 00:05:58,891 --> 00:06:02,987 And the ship's wise men Will remind you once again 66 00:06:03,096 --> 00:06:07,999 That the whole wide world is watching 67 00:06:12,672 --> 00:06:16,403 He would take individuals and infuse them with life that you could understand. 68 00:06:17,710 --> 00:06:22,044 So even if he never considered himself a protest singer, he was a protest singer. 69 00:06:22,849 --> 00:06:26,114 And he saw what was happening all around him... 70 00:06:26,786 --> 00:06:29,846 and everybody else saw what was happening all around them... 71 00:06:29,956 --> 00:06:31,719 but he voiced that for the first time. 72 00:06:32,458 --> 00:06:35,723 "Hard rain's gonna fall" means something's going to happen. 73 00:06:40,767 --> 00:06:44,897 Oh, where have you been, my blue-eyed son? 74 00:06:48,441 --> 00:06:51,808 And where have you been, my darling young one? 75 00:06:56,315 --> 00:07:01,082 I've stumbled on the side of 12 misty mountains 76 00:07:04,223 --> 00:07:08,956 I've walked and I've crawled on six crooked highways 77 00:07:12,031 --> 00:07:16,968 I've stepped in the middle of seven sad forests 78 00:07:20,139 --> 00:07:25,042 And I've been out in front of a dozen dead oceans 79 00:07:27,980 --> 00:07:32,940 I've been 10,000 miles in the mouth of a graveyard 80 00:07:33,753 --> 00:07:37,280 And it's a hard and it's a hard 81 00:07:38,157 --> 00:07:41,991 And it's a hard and it's a hard 82 00:07:42,361 --> 00:07:43,658 And it's a 83 00:07:43,763 --> 00:07:46,254 He's been shot! Oswald has been shot. 84 00:07:46,399 --> 00:07:51,336 Rain's a-gonna fall 85 00:07:51,838 --> 00:07:56,798 We were going to make this world a decent, better place... 86 00:07:58,010 --> 00:08:01,605 but that loss, I think it traumatized the nation terribly. 87 00:08:08,688 --> 00:08:11,179 The Emergency Civil Liberties Union... 88 00:08:11,290 --> 00:08:14,521 was people who were really, deeply involved... 89 00:08:14,627 --> 00:08:17,892 in progressive politics, were idealists... 90 00:08:17,997 --> 00:08:20,761 and had a dream about fairness and justice. 91 00:08:20,867 --> 00:08:25,133 Well, here's Bobby, he's 21 years old or whatever, he gets up there... 92 00:08:25,571 --> 00:08:29,803 and they're giving him an award and his discomfort was extraordinary. 93 00:08:30,743 --> 00:08:33,871 And he pointed his finger at them and he said... 94 00:08:35,348 --> 00:08:38,112 "I haven't got any guitar. I can talk, though. 95 00:08:38,217 --> 00:08:40,344 "I want to thank you for the Tom Paine Award... 96 00:08:40,453 --> 00:08:42,944 "on behalf of everybody that went down to Cuba. 97 00:08:43,055 --> 00:08:47,048 "First of all, because they're all young and it took me a long time to get young... 98 00:08:47,159 --> 00:08:50,094 "and now I consider myself young, and I'm proud of it. 99 00:08:50,696 --> 00:08:52,391 "I'm proud that I'm young. 100 00:08:52,598 --> 00:08:55,567 "And I only wish that all you people who are sitting out here tonight... 101 00:08:55,668 --> 00:08:59,331 "weren't here, and I could see all kinds of faces with hair on their head... 102 00:08:59,438 --> 00:09:02,635 "and everything like that, everything leading to youngness. " 103 00:09:03,042 --> 00:09:05,772 You know, they were trying to build me up as a topical songwriter. 104 00:09:05,878 --> 00:09:08,574 I was never a topical songwriter to begin with... 105 00:09:08,681 --> 00:09:11,115 for whatever reason they were doing it... 106 00:09:11,651 --> 00:09:15,382 was reasons not, really... That didn't really apply to me. 107 00:09:15,488 --> 00:09:18,616 "Old people, when their hair grows out, they should go out. 108 00:09:18,724 --> 00:09:21,022 "I look down to see the people that are governing me... 109 00:09:21,127 --> 00:09:24,221 "and making my rules, and they haven't got any hair on their head. 110 00:09:24,330 --> 00:09:26,059 "I get very uptight about it. 111 00:09:26,165 --> 00:09:29,362 "There's no black and white, left and right to me any more. 112 00:09:29,735 --> 00:09:33,171 "There's only up and down, and down is very close to the ground. 113 00:09:33,506 --> 00:09:38,307 "And I'm trying to go up without thinking about anything trivial, such as politics. " 114 00:09:39,478 --> 00:09:43,107 The evening that Dylan was given the Freedom Award... 115 00:09:43,215 --> 00:09:45,877 from the Emergency Civil Liberties Committee... 116 00:09:46,285 --> 00:09:50,221 apparently he got up, stood on his hind legs and said he was not a political poet... 117 00:09:50,323 --> 00:09:53,121 and nobody's left wing servant... 118 00:09:53,492 --> 00:09:56,984 but an independent minstrel or something. 119 00:09:57,597 --> 00:10:00,065 And astonished and pissed everybody off... 120 00:10:00,166 --> 00:10:03,135 by not being a nice trained seal. 121 00:10:03,502 --> 00:10:07,529 People were expecting him to give the same thing over and over again... 122 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:12,909 in a precise manner, and a precise theory, in a precise way, and it got creepy... 123 00:10:13,045 --> 00:10:17,914 because why should you have to push yourself into a tunnel that isn't yours? 124 00:10:18,017 --> 00:10:20,884 I mean, you're driving along and all these roads are apparent. 125 00:10:21,087 --> 00:10:24,818 Why do you have to take that tunnel, and go in and it's literally a tunnel... 126 00:10:24,924 --> 00:10:27,552 because it's political in its theory? 127 00:10:27,727 --> 00:10:29,422 Whereas you're out there, driving around... 128 00:10:29,528 --> 00:10:32,793 with all this other scenery going on, and that's what you're bringing out. 129 00:10:32,898 --> 00:10:35,366 I was like an outsider, anyway. 130 00:10:35,468 --> 00:10:39,097 I'd come to town as an outsider, and still, in a lot of ways... 131 00:10:39,205 --> 00:10:42,368 I was still more outside than I ever was, really. 132 00:10:42,675 --> 00:10:45,906 They were trying to make me an insider to some kind of trip they were on. 133 00:10:46,045 --> 00:10:47,376 I don't think so. 134 00:10:56,589 --> 00:11:00,116 Through the mad mystic hammering 135 00:11:00,359 --> 00:11:04,056 of the wild ripping hail 136 00:11:04,497 --> 00:11:07,955 The sky cracked its poems 137 00:11:08,067 --> 00:11:10,797 in naked wonder 138 00:11:12,838 --> 00:11:16,672 That the clinging of the church bells 139 00:11:16,776 --> 00:11:20,439 blew far into the night 140 00:11:20,546 --> 00:11:24,482 Leaving only bells of lightning 141 00:11:24,583 --> 00:11:26,881 and its thunder 142 00:11:30,156 --> 00:11:33,489 Striking for the gentle 143 00:11:34,393 --> 00:11:37,794 striking for the kind 144 00:11:38,531 --> 00:11:41,830 Striking for the guardians 145 00:11:41,934 --> 00:11:45,700 and protectors of the mind 146 00:11:46,072 --> 00:11:49,667 And the poet and the painter 147 00:11:49,775 --> 00:11:53,871 who lights up his rightful time 148 00:11:54,146 --> 00:11:56,341 And we gazed upon 149 00:11:56,449 --> 00:11:59,782 The chimes of freedom flashing 150 00:12:06,292 --> 00:12:09,784 Bob had a concert at the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium... 151 00:12:09,895 --> 00:12:12,989 where he told everybody how he and Neuwirth and them had traveled... 152 00:12:13,099 --> 00:12:16,626 across the country and he sang Chimes of Freedom Flashing... 153 00:12:16,836 --> 00:12:18,030 and it was incredible. 154 00:12:21,874 --> 00:12:25,708 After the concert, all of a sudden we found ourselves trapped. 155 00:12:25,811 --> 00:12:28,507 There was a press of people outside. 156 00:12:28,714 --> 00:12:32,775 We made it into the station wagon, and then all the people came rushing over... 157 00:12:32,885 --> 00:12:37,117 to the station wagon, and we slowly started to move the station wagon out. 158 00:12:37,356 --> 00:12:41,315 And I turned around and saw... There was an amp and his guitars... 159 00:12:41,427 --> 00:12:45,523 and their suitcases in the back with a little tarp over it, and I saw the tarp moving. 160 00:12:45,631 --> 00:12:48,429 Two young girls stowed away under the tarp. 161 00:12:48,534 --> 00:12:51,435 So we had to stop and gently eject them. 162 00:12:51,637 --> 00:12:54,071 And of course, then all the people were pressing around. 163 00:13:04,784 --> 00:13:05,910 Bobby! 164 00:13:10,589 --> 00:13:13,217 All of a sudden, he had become an idol. 165 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:17,154 That was the beginning of people wanting more from him. 166 00:13:17,263 --> 00:13:19,663 You know, as if just the songs weren't enough. 167 00:13:20,699 --> 00:13:23,395 Everybody wanted to sleep with Bobby... 168 00:13:24,804 --> 00:13:26,294 to get high with Bobby. 169 00:13:26,405 --> 00:13:31,001 The reverence was for Bobby, but it was also for what he had created... 170 00:13:31,110 --> 00:13:33,670 and everybody wanted to get close to it. 171 00:13:33,779 --> 00:13:38,478 The desire to be next to him produced a huge magnet which drew everybody. 172 00:13:39,685 --> 00:13:41,175 Young and old. 173 00:13:41,387 --> 00:13:45,414 Genius makes its own rules, and Dylan is a genius. 174 00:13:45,524 --> 00:13:49,517 A singing conscience and moral referee, as well as a preacher. 175 00:13:49,628 --> 00:13:52,529 He's also a very embarrassed young man now, because... 176 00:13:52,631 --> 00:13:56,465 It's always embarrassing to sit there with your feet in cement... 177 00:13:56,569 --> 00:13:59,936 while somebody compliments you either casually or lavishly. 178 00:14:02,074 --> 00:14:06,170 But, I've been reading a number of stories about Bob this afternoon... 179 00:14:06,278 --> 00:14:08,269 and they are all of that order. 180 00:14:10,182 --> 00:14:12,650 A comment in Billboard, the trade publication, says: 181 00:14:12,751 --> 00:14:15,584 "Dylan's poetry is born of a painful awareness... 182 00:14:15,688 --> 00:14:19,419 "of the tragedy that underlies the contemporary human condition." 183 00:14:19,525 --> 00:14:22,653 Bob, do you sing partly your own songs... 184 00:14:22,761 --> 00:14:25,229 and partly other people's, or where do you get your material? 185 00:14:25,331 --> 00:14:28,425 - Well, they're all mine, now. - You sing all your own material? 186 00:14:28,534 --> 00:14:31,332 And how long have you been writing your own music? 187 00:14:32,771 --> 00:14:35,262 For about two years. 188 00:14:37,109 --> 00:14:41,045 He came to be as he is because things needed saying... 189 00:14:41,146 --> 00:14:44,343 and the young people were the ones who wanted to say them. 190 00:14:44,650 --> 00:14:47,551 He somehow had an ear on his generation. 191 00:14:47,753 --> 00:14:51,450 I don't have to tell you. You know him, he's yours, Bob Dylan. 192 00:14:55,594 --> 00:14:58,358 I ain't looking to compete with you 193 00:14:58,731 --> 00:15:02,497 Beat or cheat or mistreat you 194 00:15:03,068 --> 00:15:07,129 Simplify you, classify you 195 00:15:07,339 --> 00:15:11,469 Deny, defy or crucify you 196 00:15:11,577 --> 00:15:14,569 All I really want to do 197 00:15:16,749 --> 00:15:19,912 Is, baby, be friends with you 198 00:15:34,533 --> 00:15:35,761 I want to say thank you. 199 00:15:35,868 --> 00:15:39,133 I want to say thank you. I want to say thank you, I love you. 200 00:15:39,238 --> 00:15:43,368 Well, it ain't no use to sit and wonder why, baby 201 00:15:45,411 --> 00:15:47,971 If you don't know by now 202 00:15:48,247 --> 00:15:52,047 Johnny Cash was more like a religious figure to me. 203 00:15:52,818 --> 00:15:56,345 And there he was at Newport, you know, standing side by side. 204 00:15:56,722 --> 00:15:59,054 Meeting him was the high thrill of a lifetime. 205 00:15:59,158 --> 00:16:02,252 And, just the fact that he had sung one of my songs... 206 00:16:02,361 --> 00:16:05,694 was just unthinkable. 207 00:16:05,931 --> 00:16:10,300 Johnny Cash and June Carter came by after Bob had put a couple... 208 00:16:10,402 --> 00:16:13,098 three tunes on tape for him, this little portable machine. 209 00:16:13,205 --> 00:16:15,332 Johnny called him out in the hall... 210 00:16:16,909 --> 00:16:21,039 and Bob came back in a few minutes later, he was holding this guitar and he says: 211 00:16:21,146 --> 00:16:22,773 "He gave me his guitar." 212 00:16:22,881 --> 00:16:25,179 Neuwirth was saying, "Wow, that's an old country tradition. 213 00:16:25,284 --> 00:16:27,912 "If somebody gives you a guitar, that's a big honor, you know?" 214 00:16:28,187 --> 00:16:30,815 This is called Hey, Mr. Tambourine Man. 215 00:16:31,857 --> 00:16:33,757 "Please play a song for me." 216 00:16:38,097 --> 00:16:42,830 Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me 217 00:16:43,369 --> 00:16:47,863 I'm not sleepy and there is no place I'm going to 218 00:16:49,408 --> 00:16:54,107 Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me 219 00:16:54,780 --> 00:16:57,476 In the jingle jangle morning 220 00:16:57,616 --> 00:17:00,176 I'll come following you 221 00:17:04,890 --> 00:17:08,257 Though I know that evening's empire 222 00:17:08,360 --> 00:17:10,624 has returned into sand 223 00:17:11,597 --> 00:17:16,296 Vanished from my hand left me blindly here to stand 224 00:17:16,402 --> 00:17:18,336 but still not sleeping 225 00:17:19,905 --> 00:17:22,738 My weariness amazes me 226 00:17:22,841 --> 00:17:25,275 I'm branded on my feet 227 00:17:25,844 --> 00:17:28,142 I have no one to meet 228 00:17:28,247 --> 00:17:33,184 And the ancient empty streets too dead for dreaming 229 00:17:34,253 --> 00:17:38,917 When Bob began to ignore topical material, it bothered me... 230 00:17:39,191 --> 00:17:41,853 'cause he wrote such marvelous material, you know? 231 00:17:43,896 --> 00:17:47,423 And suddenly to have stopped that meant that he was going away... 232 00:17:48,100 --> 00:17:52,093 from a political consciousness that we felt we all had. 233 00:17:52,204 --> 00:17:55,002 One can attribute that as going commercial... 234 00:17:56,408 --> 00:18:00,344 as getting away from this, and that bothered us. 235 00:18:01,013 --> 00:18:03,982 Then take me disappearing 236 00:18:04,083 --> 00:18:06,711 through the smoke rings of my mind 237 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,679 Down the foggy ruins of time 238 00:18:10,422 --> 00:18:12,822 far past the frozen leaves 239 00:18:13,192 --> 00:18:16,025 The haunted, frightened trees 240 00:18:16,328 --> 00:18:18,523 out to the windy beach 241 00:18:18,630 --> 00:18:23,294 Far from the twisted reach of crazy sorrow 242 00:18:24,603 --> 00:18:28,164 Yes, to dance beneath the diamond sky 243 00:18:28,273 --> 00:18:30,639 with one hand waving free 244 00:18:30,742 --> 00:18:33,506 Silhouetted by the sea 245 00:18:33,612 --> 00:18:36,206 circled by the circus sands 246 00:18:36,548 --> 00:18:39,312 With all memory and fate 247 00:18:39,618 --> 00:18:42,348 driven deep beneath the waves 248 00:18:42,521 --> 00:18:45,388 Let me forget about today 249 00:18:45,491 --> 00:18:47,618 until tomorrow 250 00:18:49,061 --> 00:18:51,928 An artist has got to be careful never really to arrive at a place... 251 00:18:52,030 --> 00:18:53,554 where he thinks he's "at" somewhere. 252 00:18:53,665 --> 00:18:56,634 You always have to realize that you're constantly... 253 00:18:56,735 --> 00:18:58,862 in the state of becoming, you know? 254 00:18:59,972 --> 00:19:03,806 And, as long as you can stay in that realm, you'll sort of be all right. 255 00:19:05,344 --> 00:19:09,337 I can't self-analyze my own work, and I wasn't going to cater to the crowd... 256 00:19:09,448 --> 00:19:13,214 because I knew certain people would like it, and certain people didn't like it. 257 00:19:13,318 --> 00:19:15,252 I had gotten in the door when no one was looking. 258 00:19:15,354 --> 00:19:18,482 I was in there now, and there was nothing anybody... 259 00:19:18,590 --> 00:19:20,751 from then on, could ever do about it. 260 00:19:21,059 --> 00:19:25,894 There's a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious... 261 00:19:26,698 --> 00:19:30,134 makes you so sick at heart that you can't take part. 262 00:19:30,235 --> 00:19:33,966 You can't even passively take part, and you've got to put your bodies... 263 00:19:34,072 --> 00:19:38,668 upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus... 264 00:19:38,777 --> 00:19:42,008 and you've got to make it stop, and you've got to indicate to the people... 265 00:19:42,114 --> 00:19:44,981 who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you're free... 266 00:19:45,083 --> 00:19:48,075 the machine will be prevented from working at all. 267 00:19:53,091 --> 00:19:56,822 The police have got Mario, they are pulling him away. 268 00:19:58,263 --> 00:20:00,094 The police have pulled Mario away... 269 00:20:00,199 --> 00:20:04,966 All of us felt that those folks before didn't get it. 270 00:20:05,204 --> 00:20:06,728 We were surrounded... 271 00:20:07,906 --> 00:20:11,239 by people who were insensitive to the need for change. 272 00:20:11,743 --> 00:20:14,803 And that's why Peter, Paul and Mary, and Bob Dylan, Joan Baez... 273 00:20:14,913 --> 00:20:19,145 all of whom were about the same age, were put in positions of leadership... 274 00:20:19,251 --> 00:20:23,278 because there was an identification amongst the college students. 275 00:20:24,823 --> 00:20:26,586 I felt it all over America. 276 00:20:26,758 --> 00:20:30,956 You know, wherever in America you went, you felt that things were happening... 277 00:20:31,063 --> 00:20:32,792 in an Olympian type of way... 278 00:20:33,065 --> 00:20:35,158 in which children were beyond their parents' command. 279 00:20:35,267 --> 00:20:37,997 He tried to exercise free speech... 280 00:20:39,438 --> 00:20:43,272 Sometime around that period of time I was painting in Berkeley... 281 00:20:43,375 --> 00:20:45,900 and the phone rang, and I think this was 1964. 282 00:20:46,011 --> 00:20:47,569 The phone rang, it was Bob and he said: 283 00:20:47,679 --> 00:20:49,806 "I have to do these shows, you want to come?" 284 00:20:49,915 --> 00:20:52,076 I said, "Well, I'm painting pictures." 285 00:20:52,184 --> 00:20:55,881 He said, "I'll buy you a leather jacket," and he said, "all the paint you need." 286 00:20:55,988 --> 00:20:58,855 The next thing I knew, you know, I got on a plane... 287 00:20:59,458 --> 00:21:01,221 and I flew to New York. 288 00:21:01,326 --> 00:21:05,387 In those days, artistic success... 289 00:21:06,465 --> 00:21:08,194 was not dollar-driven. 290 00:21:10,369 --> 00:21:13,429 It was, you know... Those were simpler times. 291 00:21:13,972 --> 00:21:17,772 If you had something to say, which was the... 292 00:21:18,510 --> 00:21:20,671 Basically, the way people were rated... 293 00:21:21,246 --> 00:21:23,544 you know, they'd say: "Have you seen Ornette Coleman? 294 00:21:23,649 --> 00:21:25,116 "Does he have anything to say?" 295 00:21:25,217 --> 00:21:28,414 And it was the same with, like... With Bob or anybody else. 296 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,215 Do they have anything to say or not? 297 00:21:30,589 --> 00:21:34,116 Darkness at the break of noon Shadows even the silver spoon 298 00:21:34,226 --> 00:21:36,694 The handmade blade, the child's balloon 299 00:21:36,795 --> 00:21:40,731 Eclipses both the sun and moon To understand you know too soon 300 00:21:40,832 --> 00:21:42,595 There is no sense in trying 301 00:21:50,876 --> 00:21:53,367 As pointed threats, they bluff with scorn 302 00:21:53,545 --> 00:21:56,776 Suicide remarks are torn From the fool's gold mouthpiece 303 00:21:56,882 --> 00:21:59,783 The hollow horn plays wasted words Proves to warn 304 00:21:59,885 --> 00:22:02,319 That he not busy being born Is busy dying 305 00:22:07,192 --> 00:22:09,057 Nobody had heard anything like this before. 306 00:22:09,161 --> 00:22:11,959 No one had heard anything like this before. 307 00:22:12,631 --> 00:22:14,826 There was a word of mouth. 308 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,636 And by the way, a crowd of 1,200 people isn't that big a crowd... 309 00:22:18,737 --> 00:22:20,227 if you stop and think about it. 310 00:22:20,339 --> 00:22:22,773 That's about how many people are waiting for the D train... 311 00:22:22,874 --> 00:22:24,899 at Sheridan Square right now. 312 00:22:25,744 --> 00:22:28,042 While preachers preach of evil fates 313 00:22:28,146 --> 00:22:31,411 Teachers teach that knowledge waits Can lead to hundred-dollar plates 314 00:22:31,516 --> 00:22:35,145 Goodness hides behind its gates But even the President of the United States 315 00:22:35,253 --> 00:22:37,653 Sometimes must have to stand naked 316 00:22:39,157 --> 00:22:41,955 Around that time he asked me if I wanted to go with him to... 317 00:22:42,060 --> 00:22:44,722 You know, he had a date in Chicago. 318 00:22:44,830 --> 00:22:46,229 Did I want to come along? 319 00:22:46,331 --> 00:22:49,664 What struck me was that he was at one... 320 00:22:49,768 --> 00:22:52,498 or he became identical with his breath. 321 00:22:53,572 --> 00:22:58,509 And Dylan had become a column of air, so to speak, at certain moments... 322 00:22:59,077 --> 00:23:02,535 where his total physical and mental focus was... 323 00:23:03,315 --> 00:23:07,718 this single breath coming out of his body. 324 00:23:08,186 --> 00:23:12,418 He had a found a way in public to be almost like a shaman... 325 00:23:13,091 --> 00:23:15,992 with all of his intelligence and consciousness... 326 00:23:16,728 --> 00:23:18,593 focused on his breath. 327 00:23:18,930 --> 00:23:21,956 So don't fear if you hear 328 00:23:23,001 --> 00:23:26,459 A foreign sound to your ear 329 00:23:29,841 --> 00:23:31,775 It's alright, Ma 330 00:23:34,713 --> 00:23:36,271 I'm only sighing 331 00:23:41,186 --> 00:23:44,246 He was doing more and more prose writing, I think, at the time, too. 332 00:23:44,356 --> 00:23:46,221 I think he was spending more time... 333 00:23:46,324 --> 00:23:47,848 actually sitting down and writing stuff... 334 00:23:47,959 --> 00:23:49,517 that he wasn't necessarily going to sing. 335 00:23:49,628 --> 00:23:51,186 And then finding out that some of that could be sung as well. 336 00:23:52,164 --> 00:23:55,691 Of war and peace the truth just twists 337 00:23:56,168 --> 00:23:58,728 lts curfew gull just glides 338 00:24:05,177 --> 00:24:08,908 Upon four-legged forest clouds 339 00:24:09,147 --> 00:24:11,945 The cowboy angel rides 340 00:24:14,252 --> 00:24:16,049 The ideal performances of the songs... 341 00:24:16,154 --> 00:24:18,247 would then come on stages throughout the world. 342 00:24:18,957 --> 00:24:21,983 Very few could be found on any of my records. 343 00:24:22,394 --> 00:24:26,194 Every second, every... You know... 344 00:24:26,364 --> 00:24:28,800 Reaching the audience is what it's all about. 345 00:24:28,900 --> 00:24:33,337 All except when 'neath the trees of Eden 346 00:24:40,378 --> 00:24:44,678 There are no veils, curtains, doors, walls... 347 00:24:44,783 --> 00:24:48,879 anything between what pours out of Bob's hand... 348 00:24:48,987 --> 00:24:50,386 onto the page... 349 00:24:50,489 --> 00:24:55,324 and what is somehow available to the core of people... 350 00:24:55,427 --> 00:24:58,521 who are believers in him. 351 00:24:58,630 --> 00:25:01,258 There's some people who'd say... You know, not interested. 352 00:25:01,366 --> 00:25:04,893 But if you're interested, he goes way, way deep. 353 00:25:07,038 --> 00:25:10,906 Go away from my window 354 00:25:11,042 --> 00:25:14,443 Leave at your own chosen speed 355 00:25:14,713 --> 00:25:16,078 A typical evening. 356 00:25:16,781 --> 00:25:18,908 I guess there would be soundcheck. 357 00:25:19,584 --> 00:25:22,678 And there would be me dealing with what kind of mood... 358 00:25:22,787 --> 00:25:24,379 Bob was going to be in. 359 00:25:24,489 --> 00:25:27,458 I was already doing that, you know. 360 00:25:28,159 --> 00:25:31,560 And when he was cheerful and up, it was just spectacular. 361 00:25:31,997 --> 00:25:34,727 And if he was dark, there wasn't any way to reach him. 362 00:25:34,833 --> 00:25:37,165 But always strong 363 00:25:37,536 --> 00:25:41,597 Bob seemed to ignore whatever was coming towards him. 364 00:25:41,706 --> 00:25:43,298 He could literally, and I'd seen him do it... 365 00:25:43,408 --> 00:25:46,400 turn his back and play a whole song, play two songs. 366 00:25:47,012 --> 00:25:49,276 Fiddling around with the equipment on the stage. 367 00:25:49,381 --> 00:25:50,871 And never even look at the public... 368 00:25:50,982 --> 00:25:54,247 and it doesn't make the slightest bit of difference in the magnetic draw. 369 00:25:54,953 --> 00:25:56,784 It's as though the public wasn't even there... 370 00:25:56,888 --> 00:25:59,618 he's just going to do what he's going to do, and he has to change. 371 00:25:59,724 --> 00:26:03,387 And he has to keep moving, and he has to add this and he has to crank the sound. 372 00:26:03,495 --> 00:26:06,760 If you ever work with him, if he did this song the night before as a waltz... 373 00:26:06,865 --> 00:26:10,562 tonight he's gonna do it in 2/4 time, just to fuck you up, you know? 374 00:26:10,669 --> 00:26:13,194 And so, with somebody who moves like that... 375 00:26:14,172 --> 00:26:18,233 I now see it, that it's very unique... 376 00:26:18,677 --> 00:26:22,238 and it's admirable, and it's a pain in the ass if you're trying to work with him. 377 00:26:22,347 --> 00:26:25,748 Or it's a pain in the ass if you were expecting something else from him. 378 00:26:25,850 --> 00:26:28,683 If everybody really listened to his own conscience... 379 00:26:28,787 --> 00:26:32,086 and really acted upon what he thought was right and wrong... 380 00:26:32,190 --> 00:26:35,216 rather than being so hopelessly passive... 381 00:26:35,327 --> 00:26:37,192 which I think just about everybody is. 382 00:26:37,295 --> 00:26:39,160 I think it's probably the main disease... 383 00:26:39,264 --> 00:26:42,995 is the passivity, where we will listen to whatever anybody else says. 384 00:26:43,101 --> 00:26:46,969 It's Daddy, and Mommy, and schoolteacher, and Sunday school teacher, and President. 385 00:26:51,443 --> 00:26:53,968 This is what the war in Vietnam is all about. 386 00:26:58,350 --> 00:27:00,113 The old and the very young. 387 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:06,050 The Marines have burned this old couple's cottage... 388 00:27:06,157 --> 00:27:08,625 because fire was coming from here. 389 00:27:09,561 --> 00:27:13,053 The day's operation burned down 150 houses... 390 00:27:13,398 --> 00:27:16,128 wounded three women, killed one baby... 391 00:27:16,601 --> 00:27:20,833 wounded one Marine, and netted these four prisoners. 392 00:27:21,239 --> 00:27:25,300 Four old men who could not answer questions put to them in English. 393 00:27:56,474 --> 00:28:00,103 I was feeling this political pull very strongly. 394 00:28:00,412 --> 00:28:03,973 And I was thinking what the two of us could do together, you know... 395 00:28:04,215 --> 00:28:06,979 as far as any kind of movement, and that... 396 00:28:07,919 --> 00:28:11,377 And so, we... Our tour had come to an end... 397 00:28:11,790 --> 00:28:15,317 and Bob said something like: "Hey, we ought to do Carnegie Hall... 398 00:28:15,660 --> 00:28:17,787 "or some big place like that." 399 00:28:17,896 --> 00:28:20,592 And I said, "What are we going to do with it?" 400 00:28:22,667 --> 00:28:25,465 And... It was a pretty cold thing to say. 401 00:28:25,804 --> 00:28:27,669 But then we did talk about... 402 00:28:28,573 --> 00:28:32,600 you know, that he wanted to do his music and I wanted to do all this other stuff... 403 00:28:32,711 --> 00:28:35,043 and he said he didn't want to do all that other stuff... 404 00:28:35,146 --> 00:28:37,080 you know, so that was pretty clear. 405 00:28:37,182 --> 00:28:38,979 And yeah, I was disappointed. 406 00:28:39,084 --> 00:28:43,384 Oh my name it is nothing 407 00:28:44,956 --> 00:28:48,551 My age it means less 408 00:28:49,327 --> 00:28:53,161 I mean, he'd given us, by that point, the greatest songs... 409 00:28:53,364 --> 00:28:56,333 in our anti-war, civil rights arsenals. 410 00:28:56,901 --> 00:29:00,564 Thirty-some years, whenever I go to a march or a sit-in, or a lie-in... 411 00:29:00,672 --> 00:29:04,403 or a be-in, or a jail-in, people'd say, "Is Bob coming?" 412 00:29:05,210 --> 00:29:07,974 I'd say, "He never comes, you moron!" 413 00:29:08,246 --> 00:29:12,239 You know, "When are you going to get it? Never did, probably never will." 414 00:29:14,552 --> 00:29:16,042 And so I think he... 415 00:29:16,688 --> 00:29:19,953 I think he couldn't have written songs like the ones he wrote... 416 00:29:20,058 --> 00:29:23,892 if he didn't feel generally, I think, sort of, for the underdog. 417 00:29:25,029 --> 00:29:29,363 But I think that he didn't want to have to be the guy people were going to go to. 418 00:29:29,567 --> 00:29:32,058 I mean, the times then were cut and dry. 419 00:29:32,170 --> 00:29:34,365 You were either for the war or you were against it. 420 00:29:34,472 --> 00:29:38,340 You either hated niggers or, you know, you supported King. 421 00:29:38,977 --> 00:29:41,002 And you were forced to take a side. 422 00:29:49,487 --> 00:29:51,921 Johnny's in a basement Mixing up the medicine 423 00:29:52,023 --> 00:29:54,651 I'm on the pavement Thinking about the government 424 00:29:54,759 --> 00:29:57,785 The man in the trench coat badge out, laid off 425 00:29:57,896 --> 00:30:00,626 Says he's got a bad cough Wants to get it paid off 426 00:30:00,732 --> 00:30:02,996 Look out kid It's something you did 427 00:30:03,101 --> 00:30:05,467 God knows when But you're doing it again 428 00:30:05,570 --> 00:30:07,265 You better duck down the alleyway 429 00:30:07,372 --> 00:30:08,566 Looking for a new friend 430 00:30:08,673 --> 00:30:10,664 The man in the coon-skin cap In a pig pen 431 00:30:10,775 --> 00:30:13,744 Wants eleven dollar bills You only got ten 432 00:30:19,551 --> 00:30:22,679 Maggie comes fleet foot Face full of black soot 433 00:30:22,787 --> 00:30:25,153 Talking that the heat put plants in the bed but 434 00:30:25,256 --> 00:30:27,781 The phone's tapped anyway Maggie says that many say 435 00:30:27,892 --> 00:30:30,554 They must bust in early May Orders from the D.A. 436 00:30:30,662 --> 00:30:33,324 Look out kid Don't matter what you did 437 00:30:33,431 --> 00:30:36,059 Walk on your tiptoes Don't tie no dose 438 00:30:36,167 --> 00:30:38,965 Better stay away from those That carry around a fire hose 439 00:30:39,070 --> 00:30:41,698 Keep a clean nose Watch the plain clothes 440 00:30:41,806 --> 00:30:45,572 You don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows 441 00:30:46,077 --> 00:30:48,511 Words have their own meaning, or they have different meanings... 442 00:30:48,613 --> 00:30:50,513 and words change their meaning. 443 00:30:50,615 --> 00:30:53,516 Words that meant something 10 years ago don't mean that now. 444 00:30:53,618 --> 00:30:54,676 They mean something else. 445 00:30:54,786 --> 00:30:56,777 Don't steal, don't lift Twenty years of schooling 446 00:30:56,888 --> 00:30:58,515 And they put you on the day shift 447 00:30:58,623 --> 00:31:00,921 Look out kid They keep it all hid 448 00:31:01,025 --> 00:31:04,017 Better jump down a manhole Light yourself a candle 449 00:31:04,128 --> 00:31:07,120 Don't wear sandals Try to avoid the scandals 450 00:31:07,232 --> 00:31:09,325 Don't want to be a bum You better chew gum 451 00:31:09,434 --> 00:31:12,460 The pump don't work 'Cause the vandals took the handles 452 00:31:14,305 --> 00:31:15,897 Subterranean Homesick Blues. I mean... 453 00:31:16,007 --> 00:31:18,066 I don't think I would have wanted to do it all by myself. 454 00:31:18,176 --> 00:31:22,806 I thought I'd get more power out of it, you know, with a small group in back of me. 455 00:31:23,014 --> 00:31:27,041 It was electric, but doesn't necessarily mean... 456 00:31:27,652 --> 00:31:31,418 that it's modernized just because it's electric, you know? 457 00:31:32,056 --> 00:31:35,025 It was, you know, like a... 458 00:31:36,661 --> 00:31:38,151 Country music was electric, too. 459 00:31:38,263 --> 00:31:40,356 I ain't gonna work 460 00:31:40,465 --> 00:31:43,229 on Maggie's farm no more 461 00:31:43,935 --> 00:31:47,871 The Bringing It All Back Home session was really fun because... 462 00:31:48,273 --> 00:31:52,403 it was this sort of spontaneous, telepathic thing, you know? 463 00:31:53,778 --> 00:31:58,215 Like he might have, you know, played through a song very briefly... 464 00:31:58,349 --> 00:32:03,013 and that was all the rehearsal or preparation that anyone had for the songs. 465 00:32:03,488 --> 00:32:07,948 Everyone was really good, everyone was really funky, you know... 466 00:32:08,059 --> 00:32:09,993 everyone had great time. 467 00:32:11,062 --> 00:32:14,520 And everyone really got behind Bobby's songs. 468 00:32:15,099 --> 00:32:17,727 It was almost like just getting together and jamming... 469 00:32:17,835 --> 00:32:22,135 without any mandate or any charts or anything. 470 00:32:25,209 --> 00:32:29,873 I was riding on the Mayflower when I thought I spied some land 471 00:32:30,815 --> 00:32:33,306 He was playing all by himself, at first. 472 00:32:33,418 --> 00:32:35,909 And then he stopped and everybody laughed... 473 00:32:36,587 --> 00:32:40,353 and then two seconds later, he started it again... 474 00:32:40,458 --> 00:32:43,484 and everybody came in just "bang," like gangbusters. 475 00:32:43,828 --> 00:32:48,162 I was riding on the Mayflower when I thought I spied some land 476 00:32:48,666 --> 00:32:52,727 I yelled for Captain Arab I have you understand 477 00:32:53,204 --> 00:32:57,538 Who came running to the deck Said, "Boys forget the whale 478 00:32:57,742 --> 00:33:01,974 "Look on over yonder Cut the engines change the sail 479 00:33:02,580 --> 00:33:06,516 Haul on the bowline" We sang that melody 480 00:33:06,617 --> 00:33:11,054 Like all tough sailors do When they're far away at sea 481 00:33:11,856 --> 00:33:13,619 I mean, the whole culture has moved and changed. 482 00:33:13,725 --> 00:33:15,056 This is really what we're announcing. 483 00:33:15,159 --> 00:33:17,684 The entire culture, both in America and England has changed. 484 00:33:17,795 --> 00:33:20,628 There's a whole new generation that's grown up, everybody. 485 00:33:20,732 --> 00:33:22,359 Do people at the Museum of Modern Art... 486 00:33:22,467 --> 00:33:24,367 and the Metropolitan know about this, do you think? 487 00:33:24,469 --> 00:33:27,302 Do they know that culture has changed, that there's a new generation? 488 00:33:27,405 --> 00:33:28,804 Well, they have been in the foreground... 489 00:33:28,906 --> 00:33:30,999 of showing all this new pop art themselves, you know. 490 00:33:31,109 --> 00:33:33,543 Warhol will be there in Albert Hall, and Warhol's on the walls... 491 00:33:33,644 --> 00:33:36,511 of the Museum of Modern Art for the last five years. 492 00:33:44,055 --> 00:33:47,252 There were signs of new life, of another generation picking up... 493 00:33:47,358 --> 00:33:50,555 a revolution in consciousness. A bloodless revolution. 494 00:33:51,129 --> 00:33:53,996 You know, like the first revolution that never shed any blood. 495 00:33:54,332 --> 00:33:55,731 That was the important thing. 496 00:33:55,833 --> 00:33:57,824 I had just been kicked out of Cuba... 497 00:33:57,935 --> 00:33:59,402 for just talking privately... 498 00:33:59,504 --> 00:34:03,531 about Castro's persecution of gay people. 499 00:34:03,641 --> 00:34:08,510 Then went to Czechoslovakia, was elected King of May on May Day. 500 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,646 A week later was kicked out by the Minister of Education and deported to London... 501 00:34:12,750 --> 00:34:17,585 and then I landed around the time of Dylan's concerts at Albert Hall. 502 00:34:18,022 --> 00:34:21,253 There was a very exciting scene, back at the hotel... 503 00:34:21,592 --> 00:34:24,959 and Dylan was down the hall with the Beatles. 504 00:34:25,563 --> 00:34:28,657 Then a message came that I was supposed to come in there. 505 00:34:28,766 --> 00:34:31,963 So I came into the room and everybody was sitting there... 506 00:34:32,070 --> 00:34:35,369 totally stone-cold silent, frozen, paranoid. 507 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,138 Not quite knowing my place, knowing Bob... 508 00:34:38,242 --> 00:34:41,575 I sat down on the side of his armchair. 509 00:34:41,846 --> 00:34:45,441 John Lennon said snidely, "Why don't you sit a little closer?" 510 00:34:46,417 --> 00:34:49,750 I suddenly realized they were just so naive, they were young. 511 00:34:50,188 --> 00:34:53,817 So I actually, I fell over laughing on to John's lap... 512 00:34:55,193 --> 00:34:58,162 Iooking up at him and asked him, "Do you ever read William Blake?" 513 00:34:58,262 --> 00:35:02,164 He said, "Never heard of him." And his wife said, "Oh, John, stop lying." 514 00:35:02,366 --> 00:35:05,096 Then everybody began laughing, and then the scene sort of broke up. 515 00:35:05,203 --> 00:35:07,068 You know, the ice was broken. 516 00:35:07,472 --> 00:35:10,839 It stuck me as funny that these guys at the summit of power... 517 00:35:11,309 --> 00:35:14,540 spiritual power, musical power, world fame... 518 00:35:14,779 --> 00:35:16,713 '65, May... June... 519 00:35:17,615 --> 00:35:20,277 were so unsure... 520 00:35:20,551 --> 00:35:23,145 of their minds and speech. 521 00:35:30,761 --> 00:35:32,558 It interested me just to watch Dylan. 522 00:35:32,663 --> 00:35:36,224 I could sort of see that things that he did and said... 523 00:35:36,734 --> 00:35:38,326 were interesting to me. 524 00:35:38,903 --> 00:35:43,363 And I didn't know why, and so that got me hooked on making a movie. 525 00:35:43,474 --> 00:35:45,704 - Do you really like that song? - Yeah, it's fantastic. 526 00:35:45,810 --> 00:35:47,539 - What do you like about it? - I just... 527 00:35:47,645 --> 00:35:50,079 I don't like any of the Subterranean Homesick Blues. 528 00:35:50,181 --> 00:35:53,082 Oh, you're that kind of... Okay, see, I understand right now. 529 00:35:53,184 --> 00:35:56,711 When we'd go into a town, there would be no sign... 530 00:35:57,622 --> 00:36:01,285 and there would be people, kind of, just hanging out at the steps... 531 00:36:02,293 --> 00:36:04,124 waiting for him to... 532 00:36:04,228 --> 00:36:07,322 And not waiting to crowd around or see him or get his autograph. 533 00:36:07,431 --> 00:36:08,921 Just waiting for him. 534 00:36:09,300 --> 00:36:13,669 And it gave you a feeling that there was some substance that you had to really... 535 00:36:14,305 --> 00:36:17,331 see through, that you weren't going to find out about this quickly. 536 00:36:17,441 --> 00:36:19,238 But you had to kind of see it the way they did. 537 00:36:19,911 --> 00:36:23,438 In the dime stores and bus stations 538 00:36:24,549 --> 00:36:26,983 People talk over situations 539 00:36:28,419 --> 00:36:31,286 Read books and repeat quotations 540 00:36:31,589 --> 00:36:35,116 Draw conclusions on the wall 541 00:36:38,162 --> 00:36:40,892 Some speak of the future 542 00:36:42,433 --> 00:36:45,402 My love she speaks softly 543 00:36:45,803 --> 00:36:48,897 She knows there's no success like failure 544 00:36:49,407 --> 00:36:52,638 And that failure's no success at all 545 00:36:54,545 --> 00:36:56,536 Do you care about what you sing? 546 00:36:57,281 --> 00:36:59,681 How could I answer that if you got the nerve to ask me? 547 00:36:59,784 --> 00:37:00,773 Well, then you have... 548 00:37:00,885 --> 00:37:03,513 I mean, you've got a lot of nerve asking me a question like that. 549 00:37:03,621 --> 00:37:04,815 Do you ask the Beatles that? 550 00:37:04,922 --> 00:37:08,323 I have to ask you that, because you have the nerve to question whether I can... 551 00:37:08,426 --> 00:37:11,486 I'm not questioning you, because I don't expect any answer from you. 552 00:37:11,596 --> 00:37:15,532 But do you think somebody wouldn't go see somebody if they didn't want entertainment? 553 00:37:16,234 --> 00:37:19,533 In the dime stores and bus stations 554 00:37:19,637 --> 00:37:21,161 We showed him the first rough cut. 555 00:37:21,272 --> 00:37:25,072 What he saw must have made him look like he was bare bones... 556 00:37:25,643 --> 00:37:27,474 and I think that was a big shock to him. 557 00:37:27,578 --> 00:37:31,639 But then he saw, I think the second night, he saw that it was total theater. 558 00:37:31,916 --> 00:37:33,008 It didn't matter. 559 00:37:33,117 --> 00:37:37,281 He was like an actor, and he suddenly had reinvented himself... 560 00:37:37,388 --> 00:37:40,585 as the actor within this movie, and then it was okay. 561 00:37:41,259 --> 00:37:44,194 That's what he's good at, is getting used to the way things are. 562 00:37:44,295 --> 00:37:47,162 I mean, he understands that time changes everything. 563 00:37:47,265 --> 00:37:50,530 They didn't light places, they didn't have to stop filming. 564 00:37:50,635 --> 00:37:52,500 If you ran, they ran. 565 00:37:52,903 --> 00:37:55,770 If you went in a room, they went into the room. 566 00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:00,477 And you know, at a certain point, you just became oblivious to that. 567 00:38:19,230 --> 00:38:22,427 I was young, and I had expectations. 568 00:38:22,533 --> 00:38:24,899 And wanted to be where the action was... 569 00:38:25,002 --> 00:38:28,369 and I should not have been there at that time. 570 00:38:28,472 --> 00:38:31,839 Everybody was having a wonderful time and they were all smashing things up... 571 00:38:31,942 --> 00:38:35,207 in the hotel room, and I was this weird square over in my room... 572 00:38:35,313 --> 00:38:37,076 who didn't do all that stuff. 573 00:38:37,181 --> 00:38:40,776 I was very critical of everybody who did, and wanted my time with Bob... 574 00:38:40,885 --> 00:38:44,821 because I thought he was a special friend, and he had moved on. 575 00:38:45,856 --> 00:38:49,257 And it was awful. I mean, it just hurt like hell. 576 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,558 I thought, I assumed, that since I'd invited him on the stage in the States... 577 00:38:53,698 --> 00:38:56,929 he would invite me on the stage there. He had no intention of doing that. 578 00:38:57,034 --> 00:38:58,331 - Bob? - Bob? 579 00:39:01,806 --> 00:39:05,537 He was ready to have that whole stage all to himself, that's what I'd say. 580 00:39:05,643 --> 00:39:08,077 He didn't want anybody competing with it. 581 00:39:08,479 --> 00:39:10,344 That's as close as I can get. 582 00:39:10,781 --> 00:39:14,308 You know, it was probably a stupid thing to do... 583 00:39:15,653 --> 00:39:20,590 not letting her play, but you can't be wise and in love at the same time, so... 584 00:39:22,159 --> 00:39:25,595 I hope she'd see the light sooner or later on that. 585 00:39:25,896 --> 00:39:29,161 Bob is one of the most complex human beings I've ever met... 586 00:39:30,201 --> 00:39:33,534 I think at first I really tried to figure this guy out. No. 587 00:39:34,572 --> 00:39:36,472 I gave it up, and so I don't know. 588 00:39:36,574 --> 00:39:39,634 I don't know what he thought about, all I know is what he gave us. 589 00:39:39,744 --> 00:39:43,578 The crash on the highway threw the car into a field 590 00:39:44,815 --> 00:39:48,615 Turn, turn, turn again 591 00:39:49,487 --> 00:39:53,446 Four people killed with him at the wheel 592 00:39:54,525 --> 00:39:58,825 Turn, turn to the rain And the wind 593 00:40:00,998 --> 00:40:04,399 The poetry, it tumbles out. And I watched him write... 594 00:40:04,502 --> 00:40:06,993 at the typewriter or writing... It's done. 595 00:40:07,138 --> 00:40:08,298 Do you remember that goddamn song? 596 00:40:08,406 --> 00:40:11,068 That love is just a four-letter word 597 00:40:11,175 --> 00:40:15,635 I never finished that song. Did I? No, I never finished it. 598 00:40:15,746 --> 00:40:16,804 Oh, God! 599 00:40:16,914 --> 00:40:19,075 - You finished it about eight different ways. - Did I? 600 00:40:19,183 --> 00:40:23,586 I stole Four Letter Word, I took that and disappeared with it, and sang it... 601 00:40:24,221 --> 00:40:26,849 and I think the next Bob knew about it, he heard it on the radio. 602 00:40:26,957 --> 00:40:30,916 I was with him when he heard it on the radio and he was listening, he said: 603 00:40:31,028 --> 00:40:32,893 "That's a great song." 604 00:40:32,997 --> 00:40:35,431 That's a great song. He didn't remember he had written it. 605 00:40:35,533 --> 00:40:38,127 I said, "You wrote it, you dope." 606 00:40:38,469 --> 00:40:38,636 Strange it is to be beside you 607 00:40:38,636 --> 00:40:41,070 Strange it is to be beside you 608 00:40:41,172 --> 00:40:43,538 Many years of tables turned 609 00:40:44,408 --> 00:40:48,708 You'd probably not believe me if I told you all I've learned 610 00:40:49,747 --> 00:40:53,478 And it is very very weird indeed 611 00:40:55,085 --> 00:40:59,419 To hear words like forever and free 612 00:40:59,590 --> 00:41:03,754 So ships run through my mind I cannot cheat 613 00:41:05,496 --> 00:41:09,364 It's like looking in the teacher's face complete 614 00:41:10,801 --> 00:41:14,703 I can say nothing to you but repeat 615 00:41:14,805 --> 00:41:18,400 What I heard 616 00:41:18,776 --> 00:41:21,643 That love is just a four-letter 617 00:41:21,745 --> 00:41:24,270 Love is just a four-letter 618 00:41:24,381 --> 00:41:28,442 Love is just a four-letter word 619 00:41:34,391 --> 00:41:35,192 Hey Mr. Tambourine Man 620 00:41:35,192 --> 00:41:38,252 Hey Mr. Tambourine Man 621 00:41:38,462 --> 00:41:41,124 Play a song for me 622 00:41:41,532 --> 00:41:43,432 I'm not sleepy 623 00:41:43,534 --> 00:41:48,096 And there ain't no place I'm going to 624 00:41:50,007 --> 00:41:53,033 A lot of my songs, they were becoming hits for other people. 625 00:41:53,143 --> 00:41:55,202 There was, the Byrds had a big hit. 626 00:41:55,312 --> 00:41:57,803 Some group called the Turtles had some hit. 627 00:41:58,182 --> 00:42:01,618 Sonny and Cher had a hit with a song of mine. 628 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,085 People were sort of writing a jingly-jangly kind of song... 629 00:42:04,188 --> 00:42:08,090 which seemed to have something to do with me, I, you know, like, "okay..." 630 00:42:08,726 --> 00:42:12,287 You know, I Got Me, Babe, is some kind of take-off of me, something I wrote. 631 00:42:12,396 --> 00:42:15,229 Well, I don't know what it was a take-off on that I wrote, you know? 632 00:42:15,332 --> 00:42:18,358 I didn't really like that sound... 633 00:42:19,470 --> 00:42:22,906 or folk-rock, whatever that was, I didn't feel that had anything to do with me. 634 00:42:23,007 --> 00:42:25,999 It got me thinking about the Billboard charts and the songs... 635 00:42:26,110 --> 00:42:29,375 which become popular, which I hadn't thought of that before. 636 00:42:29,747 --> 00:42:32,181 Once upon a time you dressed so fine 637 00:42:32,283 --> 00:42:36,344 You threw the bums a dime in your prime, didn't you? 638 00:42:39,256 --> 00:42:42,487 I found myself writing this song, this story... 639 00:42:43,394 --> 00:42:47,922 this long piece of vomit, 20 pages long, and out of it... 640 00:42:48,432 --> 00:42:52,300 I took Like A Rolling Stone, and made it as a single... 641 00:42:52,403 --> 00:42:54,667 and I'd never written anything like that before. 642 00:42:54,772 --> 00:42:58,606 And it suddenly came to me that was what I should do. 643 00:42:59,043 --> 00:43:03,946 After writing that, I wasn't interested in writing a novel or a play or anything. 644 00:43:04,048 --> 00:43:07,108 Like I knew I just had too much, I wanted to write songs. 645 00:43:07,217 --> 00:43:09,242 About having to scrounge 646 00:43:09,853 --> 00:43:14,586 Your next meal 647 00:43:24,902 --> 00:43:27,837 Mike Bloomfield said he had heard my first record... 648 00:43:29,073 --> 00:43:32,304 and said he wanted to show me how the blues were played... 649 00:43:32,610 --> 00:43:35,545 and I didn't feel much competitive... 650 00:43:35,913 --> 00:43:40,509 I didn't feel much competitive with him, he could outplay anybody, even at that... 651 00:43:40,818 --> 00:43:43,412 at that point, you know. 652 00:43:43,887 --> 00:43:47,914 But when it was time to bring in a guitar player on my record... 653 00:43:48,025 --> 00:43:50,186 I couldn't think of anybody but him. 654 00:43:50,661 --> 00:43:53,289 I mean, he just was the best guitar player I ever heard. 655 00:43:53,397 --> 00:43:56,161 Okay, Bob. We've got everybody here, let's do one. And then... 656 00:43:56,266 --> 00:43:59,633 A producer named Tom Wilson invited me to a recording session. 657 00:43:59,937 --> 00:44:03,373 And me being 21 years old and incredibly ambitious... 658 00:44:03,474 --> 00:44:08,104 and a big Bob Dylan fan, I decided I was going to play on that session. 659 00:44:08,312 --> 00:44:12,043 There was another guitar player who sat down, and was warming up... 660 00:44:12,349 --> 00:44:15,182 and just was playing far beyond my abilities. 661 00:44:15,619 --> 00:44:17,951 And he turned out to be Mike Bloomfield. 662 00:44:18,055 --> 00:44:22,719 I packed up my guitar, and I went into the control room where I belonged. 663 00:44:23,327 --> 00:44:27,320 After the first couple of hours of the session, they moved... 664 00:44:29,500 --> 00:44:31,764 the organ player over to piano. 665 00:44:35,205 --> 00:44:37,799 And I said, "Well, here's another chance for me." 666 00:44:38,142 --> 00:44:40,337 So I said to Tom Wilson: 667 00:44:41,645 --> 00:44:43,010 "Why don't you let me play the organ? 668 00:44:43,113 --> 00:44:46,207 "I got a great part for this," which was total bullshit. 669 00:44:49,953 --> 00:44:54,356 And Tom Wilson said, "Oh, man, you don't play the organ. 670 00:44:54,458 --> 00:44:56,119 "You're a guitar player." 671 00:44:56,927 --> 00:44:59,452 I said, "I got a really good part for this, I can play it." 672 00:44:59,563 --> 00:45:01,463 He said, "Al." 673 00:45:02,032 --> 00:45:05,160 And just then someone came and got him... 674 00:45:05,536 --> 00:45:08,004 to take a phone call that came in for him. 675 00:45:08,238 --> 00:45:09,899 So he didn't say no. 676 00:45:10,307 --> 00:45:14,676 Like a Rolling Stone, remake, Take One. 677 00:45:15,679 --> 00:45:17,374 What are you doing there? 678 00:45:17,848 --> 00:45:22,251 At that point, he really could have just busted me... 679 00:45:22,352 --> 00:45:24,513 and got me back in the control room. 680 00:45:26,056 --> 00:45:30,891 But he was a very gracious man. And so he let it go. 681 00:45:31,462 --> 00:45:33,225 And so I began to play. 682 00:45:33,430 --> 00:45:35,728 In the verses, in the beginning, you hear me come in... 683 00:45:35,833 --> 00:45:38,301 always an eighth note behind the band. 684 00:45:38,669 --> 00:45:40,660 To make sure that I played the right chord... 685 00:45:40,771 --> 00:45:43,535 the band would go... And I'd go like that. 686 00:45:46,009 --> 00:45:47,067 Like that. 687 00:45:47,177 --> 00:45:48,838 They started playing it back. 688 00:45:48,946 --> 00:45:52,109 After about a verse or two, Bob said to Tom Wilson.; 689 00:45:52,616 --> 00:45:54,015 "Hey, turn the organ up." 690 00:45:54,118 --> 00:45:58,316 And Tom Wilson said to Bob, "Oh, man, that guy's not an organ player. 691 00:45:58,422 --> 00:45:59,514 "He's just..." 692 00:45:59,623 --> 00:46:02,558 And then Bob said, "I don't care, turn the organ up." 693 00:46:12,603 --> 00:46:17,267 Once upon a time you dressed so fine threw the bums a dime in your prime 694 00:46:18,742 --> 00:46:20,039 didn't you? 695 00:46:22,813 --> 00:46:25,646 People'd call, say, "Beware doll, you're bound to fall" 696 00:46:25,749 --> 00:46:29,241 You thought they were all kidding you 697 00:46:33,490 --> 00:46:36,982 You used to laugh about 698 00:46:38,529 --> 00:46:42,021 Everybody that was hanging out 699 00:46:42,833 --> 00:46:46,030 Now you don't talk so loud 700 00:46:47,671 --> 00:46:51,129 Now you don't seem so proud 701 00:46:52,276 --> 00:46:54,540 About having to be scrounging 702 00:46:55,813 --> 00:46:58,247 your next meal 703 00:47:00,884 --> 00:47:02,784 How does it feel 704 00:47:06,056 --> 00:47:07,614 How does it feel 705 00:47:10,627 --> 00:47:12,686 To be without a home 706 00:47:15,899 --> 00:47:18,026 Like a complete unknown 707 00:47:20,237 --> 00:47:22,933 Like a rolling stone 708 00:47:27,845 --> 00:47:30,279 Like a Rolling Stone definitely broke through somewhere. 709 00:47:30,380 --> 00:47:33,907 I didn't feel like radio had ever played a song like that before. 710 00:47:34,318 --> 00:47:36,582 I know I'd never heard a song like that before. 711 00:47:36,687 --> 00:47:37,915 So... 712 00:47:39,223 --> 00:47:42,659 And everything I'd done up to that point had led up to... 713 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,985 writing a song like that, just effortlessly. 714 00:47:45,095 --> 00:47:49,225 Like a Rolling Stone originally had about 50-some verses, as I recall. 715 00:47:50,167 --> 00:47:52,897 And people who think it's long now, you know... 716 00:47:53,604 --> 00:47:55,765 should have had a look at it when it was raw. 717 00:47:55,873 --> 00:47:58,774 I think he always made exactly the works that he wanted to make... 718 00:47:58,876 --> 00:48:02,505 At the time he wanted to make it. The audience came to Bob. 719 00:48:02,746 --> 00:48:05,840 And that's one of the things that makes him so unique... 720 00:48:05,949 --> 00:48:09,350 in the history of American music, is the audience came to Bob Dylan. 721 00:48:09,486 --> 00:48:10,919 I've never been that kind of performer... 722 00:48:11,021 --> 00:48:14,889 that wants to be one of them, you know, like one of the crowd. 723 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,424 I don't try to endear myself that way. 724 00:48:19,763 --> 00:48:23,665 Now, do performers look for applause? Yeah, yes and no. 725 00:48:24,301 --> 00:48:26,428 It really depends what kind of performer you are. 726 00:48:26,536 --> 00:48:29,994 Like the story of Billie Holiday, you know... 727 00:48:30,107 --> 00:48:33,406 when she sang Strange Fruit for the first time, nobody applauded. 728 00:48:33,510 --> 00:48:37,879 You know, you could leave somebody kind of in a spellbound way and... 729 00:48:40,183 --> 00:48:44,643 I don't know. There's a lot of things going on... 730 00:48:44,755 --> 00:48:47,747 when there's a performer on stage and there's an audience out there. 731 00:49:05,242 --> 00:49:07,210 That weekend, my daughter had been born. 732 00:49:07,311 --> 00:49:10,803 Pete Seeger had made a recording of her. And he played it. 733 00:49:10,914 --> 00:49:12,814 He opened the night on Sunday night at Newport... 734 00:49:12,916 --> 00:49:15,180 and he played this little recording of a new baby, he says.; 735 00:49:15,285 --> 00:49:17,310 "Here's the first folk song, the first voice... 736 00:49:17,421 --> 00:49:21,152 "and we're dedicating this festival and this music and our purposes..." 737 00:49:21,258 --> 00:49:24,989 "to this new child, and the new world that she's going to grow up in." 738 00:49:25,262 --> 00:49:29,130 And that was kind of, you know... That's the way the evening began. 739 00:49:29,666 --> 00:49:33,568 I was walking around in the afternoon and Albert Grossman took me aside... 740 00:49:33,670 --> 00:49:35,661 and said, "Bob is looking for you." 741 00:49:36,573 --> 00:49:40,566 And he took me to Bob and Bob said, "I want to play Sunday night... 742 00:49:40,677 --> 00:49:43,680 "and try and reproduce what we did on the album. " 743 00:49:44,715 --> 00:49:45,909 And I said: 744 00:49:46,616 --> 00:49:48,208 "Okay. Sounds great." 745 00:49:48,885 --> 00:49:50,352 Ladies and gentlemen... 746 00:49:51,922 --> 00:49:54,152 the person that's going to come up now... 747 00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,955 has a limited amount of time. 748 00:50:01,131 --> 00:50:04,362 His name is Bob Dylan. 749 00:50:27,891 --> 00:50:31,452 I ain't gonna work on Maggie's farm no more 750 00:50:37,234 --> 00:50:41,034 No, I ain't gonna work on Maggie's farm no more 751 00:50:46,710 --> 00:50:50,407 Well, I try my best to be just like I am 752 00:50:50,547 --> 00:50:53,914 But everybody wants you to be just like them 753 00:50:54,151 --> 00:50:57,279 They say sing while you slave I just get bored 754 00:50:57,821 --> 00:51:01,882 I ain't gonna work on Maggie's farm no more 755 00:51:09,199 --> 00:51:12,066 He sang that song, "I ain't going to work on Maggie's farm no more. " 756 00:51:12,169 --> 00:51:14,694 I said, "Hey look, he's taking that old Penny's Farm... 757 00:51:14,805 --> 00:51:17,865 "and putting it somewhere else. That's terrific." 758 00:51:17,974 --> 00:51:20,340 I thought that was interesting. 759 00:51:21,211 --> 00:51:25,773 But the volume of the blues band was kind of wild... 760 00:51:25,916 --> 00:51:28,248 and you couldn't get the words too clearly. 761 00:51:28,718 --> 00:51:32,677 I ain't gonna work for Maggie's ma no more 762 00:51:36,927 --> 00:51:40,761 No, I ain't gonna work for Maggie's ma no more 763 00:51:48,605 --> 00:51:52,871 Well, she talks to all the servants about man and God and law 764 00:51:53,076 --> 00:51:56,637 Everybody says she's the brains behind pa 765 00:51:56,746 --> 00:51:59,681 She's 72 but she says she's 24 766 00:52:01,118 --> 00:52:04,645 I ain't gonna work for Maggie's ma no more 767 00:52:08,024 --> 00:52:11,585 It was not possible to share the kind of intimacy... 768 00:52:11,695 --> 00:52:13,185 that we were sharing with folk music... 769 00:52:13,296 --> 00:52:16,026 when you've got those electric instruments going. 770 00:52:16,133 --> 00:52:20,069 The moment you've got drums there, everything has got to come up in level. 771 00:52:25,442 --> 00:52:26,909 The sound was a bit harsh. 772 00:52:27,010 --> 00:52:29,103 But we thought it was way cool. 773 00:52:29,412 --> 00:52:31,107 And what we noticed was... 774 00:52:32,482 --> 00:52:36,111 about a third of the audience was booing, which was unheard of... 775 00:52:36,219 --> 00:52:38,119 not in all our days of seeing... 776 00:52:38,221 --> 00:52:40,712 whatever kind of show had we ever seen that. 777 00:52:42,993 --> 00:52:47,054 I remember understanding that drugs were bad and alcohol was bad... 778 00:52:47,330 --> 00:52:50,857 and rock 'n' roll was wicked and sex was bad. 779 00:52:51,034 --> 00:52:55,664 And so I thought, "Oh, my goodness, how depraved this is all getting." 780 00:52:55,772 --> 00:52:56,830 All right! 781 00:52:58,475 --> 00:53:02,536 I was thinking that somebody was shouting, "Are you with us? Are you with us?" 782 00:53:02,879 --> 00:53:06,110 And, you know, I don't know what that, you know, like... 783 00:53:06,216 --> 00:53:07,683 What was that supposed to mean? 784 00:53:07,784 --> 00:53:09,581 I had no idea why they were booing. 785 00:53:09,686 --> 00:53:14,589 I don't think anybody was there having a negative response to those... 786 00:53:15,392 --> 00:53:16,586 songs, though. 787 00:53:17,627 --> 00:53:21,358 I mean, whatever it was about, it wasn't about... 788 00:53:21,698 --> 00:53:23,689 anything that they were hearing. 789 00:53:23,833 --> 00:53:27,667 Well, he hands you a nickel Hands you a dime 790 00:53:28,238 --> 00:53:31,730 Asks you with a grin if you're having a good time 791 00:53:31,875 --> 00:53:34,708 And he fines you every time you slam the door 792 00:53:35,378 --> 00:53:39,337 I ain't gonna work for Maggie's brother no more 793 00:53:39,816 --> 00:53:41,750 You could not understand the words. 794 00:53:41,851 --> 00:53:45,446 And I was frantic. I said, "Get that distortion out." 795 00:53:45,555 --> 00:53:49,286 It was so raspy, you could not understand a word. 796 00:53:49,726 --> 00:53:53,389 And I ran over to the sound system, "Get that distortion out of Bob's voice." 797 00:53:53,496 --> 00:53:55,862 "No, this is the way they want to have it." 798 00:53:55,966 --> 00:53:58,867 I said, "God damn it, it's terrible. You can't understand it. 799 00:53:58,969 --> 00:54:02,461 "If I had an axe, I'd chop the mike cable right now." 800 00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:07,176 Oh, you've gone to the finest school all right, Miss Lonely 801 00:54:07,277 --> 00:54:10,872 but you know you only used to get juiced in it 802 00:54:12,749 --> 00:54:16,310 Nobody's ever taught you how to live out on the street 803 00:54:16,419 --> 00:54:19,252 And now you're gonna have to get used to it 804 00:54:22,158 --> 00:54:24,991 We ran backstage and there was mayhem going on. 805 00:54:25,095 --> 00:54:27,962 Pete Seeger and Theodore Bikel and all the old guard... 806 00:54:28,064 --> 00:54:31,295 the old leftist, protest-singing factions... 807 00:54:31,401 --> 00:54:35,565 were horrified and thought: "This is pop music, this isn't folk music." 808 00:54:35,672 --> 00:54:39,005 And there was just a big battle raging backstage and... 809 00:54:39,109 --> 00:54:41,771 Pete, I understand Pete Seeger had an axe... 810 00:54:41,878 --> 00:54:45,507 and was going to go cut the electric cables and had to be... 811 00:54:45,749 --> 00:54:48,115 you know, subdued... 812 00:54:48,385 --> 00:54:52,788 and Theodore Bikel was saying, "This is what the young people want! 813 00:54:52,889 --> 00:54:55,949 "We have to go with the change, this is what's happening now." 814 00:54:56,059 --> 00:54:57,651 So they were all arguing among themselves. 815 00:54:57,761 --> 00:54:59,422 Seeger... 816 00:55:00,764 --> 00:55:04,894 from all reports, was very upset by this. 817 00:55:05,001 --> 00:55:09,335 And I had heard that he tried to cut the wires and that he'd gone into a car... 818 00:55:09,439 --> 00:55:12,067 and wouldn't come out after this whole thing. 819 00:55:12,175 --> 00:55:14,507 That's not my interpretation. You see... 820 00:55:14,844 --> 00:55:18,211 Pete's father was there, Charlie Seeger... 821 00:55:18,581 --> 00:55:22,039 and he had a hearing aid, and Charlie was very distressed... 822 00:55:22,252 --> 00:55:24,413 when he couldn't hear things clearly. 823 00:55:24,521 --> 00:55:27,081 And with all this sound coming from the speakers... 824 00:55:27,190 --> 00:55:30,887 Charlie Seeger was quite upset. And I think that affected Pete. 825 00:55:31,127 --> 00:55:34,358 You used to ride the chrome horse with your diplomat 826 00:55:35,332 --> 00:55:38,790 Who carried on his shoulder a Siamese cat 827 00:55:39,936 --> 00:55:42,734 Ain't it hard when you discover that 828 00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:47,732 He really wasn't where it's at 829 00:55:48,812 --> 00:55:51,110 After he's taken from you 830 00:55:51,214 --> 00:55:54,377 everything he could steal 831 00:55:56,252 --> 00:55:58,277 How does it feel? 832 00:55:58,788 --> 00:56:03,248 Rock 'n' roll was considered a real sellout music for a lot of folk fans... 833 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:07,091 and Like a Rolling Stone seemed like the direct slap in the face... 834 00:56:07,197 --> 00:56:09,597 to everything that topical songs represented. 835 00:56:09,866 --> 00:56:13,597 "How does it feel to be on your own." And they took it as this most... 836 00:56:13,837 --> 00:56:15,771 extremely negative... 837 00:56:17,841 --> 00:56:19,138 you know... 838 00:56:19,242 --> 00:56:22,769 selfish statement, basically, and it was, you know, it was not... 839 00:56:23,179 --> 00:56:25,670 Better World A-Coming, you know, it was not that. 840 00:56:32,389 --> 00:56:34,050 Let's go, man. That's all. 841 00:56:34,557 --> 00:56:38,516 I thought he would go out and play some other stuff by himself and then... 842 00:56:38,962 --> 00:56:41,328 we'd come out and play these three songs. 843 00:56:43,633 --> 00:56:46,796 But we just came out and played these three songs and then... 844 00:56:47,036 --> 00:56:48,503 he said, "Goodnight." 845 00:56:48,805 --> 00:56:52,832 And we'd been out there for a total of 15 minutes... 846 00:56:54,344 --> 00:56:56,812 and everybody else had played for an hour. 847 00:56:57,647 --> 00:57:00,275 So that was pretty weird. And he was the headliner. 848 00:57:04,087 --> 00:57:06,317 Bobby, can you do another song, please? 849 00:57:08,024 --> 00:57:09,719 He's going to get his axe. 850 00:57:17,467 --> 00:57:18,593 He's coming. 851 00:57:21,204 --> 00:57:24,696 Bobby was terribly shaken and I ran backstage... 852 00:57:25,375 --> 00:57:27,900 and he said to me, "What have you done to me?" 853 00:57:28,278 --> 00:57:31,714 Peter Yarrow came out and said, "Okay, everybody calm down... 854 00:57:31,815 --> 00:57:34,477 "Bob's gone to get his acoustic guitar." 855 00:57:34,584 --> 00:57:35,846 And everybody... 856 00:57:36,319 --> 00:57:39,550 The highway is for gamblers 857 00:57:39,923 --> 00:57:42,118 better use your sense 858 00:57:46,396 --> 00:57:48,887 Take what you have gathered 859 00:57:48,998 --> 00:57:51,933 from coincidence 860 00:57:55,538 --> 00:58:00,237 The empty-handed painter from your streets 861 00:58:03,246 --> 00:58:06,409 Is drawing crazy patterns 862 00:58:06,549 --> 00:58:08,312 on your sheets 863 00:58:11,054 --> 00:58:14,820 The sky, too, is folding over you 864 00:58:18,428 --> 00:58:21,591 And it's all over now 865 00:58:21,698 --> 00:58:23,689 Baby Blue 866 00:58:28,505 --> 00:58:30,803 I'd heard a rumor that Pete was going to cut the cable. 867 00:58:30,907 --> 00:58:35,173 And I heard it later, you know. And it was like, it didn't make sense to me. 868 00:58:35,512 --> 00:58:39,505 Like, Pete Seeger, like someone whose music I cherish, you know. 869 00:58:39,616 --> 00:58:42,210 Like someone who I highly respect is going to cut the cable. 870 00:58:42,318 --> 00:58:44,718 It was like, "Oh, God." It was like... 871 00:58:45,488 --> 00:58:47,820 It was like a dagger, you know, it was... 872 00:58:48,157 --> 00:58:50,682 Just the thought of it was, you know... 873 00:58:51,394 --> 00:58:52,827 made me go out and get drunk. 874 00:58:52,929 --> 00:58:55,329 Strike another match 875 00:58:55,431 --> 00:58:58,195 Go start anew 876 00:59:00,403 --> 00:59:03,531 And it's all over now 877 00:59:03,740 --> 00:59:05,674 Baby Blue 878 00:59:30,833 --> 00:59:33,233 I remember seeing Bob later on that evening... 879 00:59:33,336 --> 00:59:35,736 Iooking kind of blue, as though he hadn't... 880 00:59:35,838 --> 00:59:38,807 Hadn't made the point that he wanted to make properly. 881 00:59:38,908 --> 00:59:43,811 He didn't want to feel that he was limited here or limited there. 882 00:59:44,013 --> 00:59:47,642 He wanted to do something with the Butterfield Blues Band. 883 00:59:47,951 --> 00:59:49,612 And it was great. 884 00:59:50,353 --> 00:59:54,449 Every night, after the concerts, the festival people would have a party. 885 00:59:54,624 --> 00:59:58,560 And Bob was sitting in the corner, I guess, thinking about what had happened. 886 00:59:58,661 --> 01:00:02,495 I said, "Hey, Bob. Do you want to dance?" And he looked up at me and said: 887 01:00:03,099 --> 01:00:06,557 "I'd dance with you, Maria, but my hands are on fire." 888 01:00:07,503 --> 01:00:12,031 And it's sort of like... That was a cryptic remark, but I kind of knew... 889 01:00:12,141 --> 01:00:16,271 exactly what he meant, you know. So I said, "Okay, man," and I just left him alone. 890 01:00:16,946 --> 01:00:20,404 We want Dylan! 891 01:00:24,454 --> 01:00:27,014 A couple of months later, he played Forest Hills. 892 01:00:27,123 --> 01:00:30,854 There, the first half was acoustic, the second half was rock 'n' roll. 893 01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:34,259 The electric half.; silence, booing. 894 01:00:34,497 --> 01:00:38,558 At least 15, 20 kids ran on the stage through the whole electric set. 895 01:00:38,668 --> 01:00:40,966 There would be somebody, two, three times during a number... 896 01:00:41,070 --> 01:00:45,006 actually jumping on the stage and running around amongst the musicians. 897 01:00:46,709 --> 01:00:49,405 And an incredible animosity in the audience. 898 01:00:49,512 --> 01:00:52,310 I think it was the only concert I have ever been at where... 899 01:00:52,415 --> 01:00:56,511 that animosity was that strong and you actually felt a little threatened... 900 01:00:56,619 --> 01:00:59,247 if you applauded during this, which I did. 901 01:00:59,455 --> 01:01:03,255 When we played Forest Hills, Like a Rolling Stone was number one. 902 01:01:04,994 --> 01:01:06,985 And so when we played Like a Rolling Stone... 903 01:01:07,096 --> 01:01:08,961 they stopped booing and sang along. 904 01:01:09,065 --> 01:01:11,590 And then when we finished they started booing again. 905 01:01:11,701 --> 01:01:13,396 I thought that was great. 906 01:01:13,569 --> 01:01:16,367 I enjoyed that. But at the party after the show... 907 01:01:16,472 --> 01:01:19,930 Bob came running up to us and gave us big hugs, he said.; 908 01:01:20,543 --> 01:01:23,842 "That was fabulous. It was great. It was like a carnival. " 909 01:01:23,946 --> 01:01:27,006 It was fantastic. He really enjoyed the show. 910 01:01:27,550 --> 01:01:31,987 The booing didn't really, you know... I had a perspective on the booing. 911 01:01:32,555 --> 01:01:37,015 Because you got to realize you can kill somebody with kindness, too. 912 01:01:43,966 --> 01:01:47,367 God said to Abraham, "Kill me a son" 913 01:01:47,503 --> 01:01:50,438 Abe said, "Man, you must be putting me on" 914 01:01:51,074 --> 01:01:53,941 God say, "No" Abe say, "What?" 915 01:01:54,343 --> 01:01:57,210 God say, "You can do what you want, Abe, but 916 01:01:57,847 --> 01:02:00,873 "Next time you see me coming you better run" 917 01:02:07,023 --> 01:02:10,481 Well, Abe says, "Where do you want this killing done?" 918 01:02:10,626 --> 01:02:13,993 God says, "Out on Highway 61" 919 01:02:14,263 --> 01:02:17,061 I walked in the studio and he was out there in a corner... 920 01:02:17,166 --> 01:02:18,929 and I walked up and I said, "Bob, I'm Bob Johnston." 921 01:02:19,035 --> 01:02:20,832 He said, "How you doing?" And he smiled at me. 922 01:02:20,937 --> 01:02:24,532 All I remember is Dylan doing that and starting in... 923 01:02:25,007 --> 01:02:28,272 and from that moment, I really have no memory. 924 01:02:29,812 --> 01:02:31,302 Nobody ever counted off for Dylan... 925 01:02:31,414 --> 01:02:33,348 he always did what the fuck he wanted to. 926 01:02:33,449 --> 01:02:37,579 And I always just got the sound pretty well. And he seemed to love the sound. 927 01:02:37,887 --> 01:02:42,950 You walk into the room With your pencil in your hand 928 01:02:44,260 --> 01:02:49,288 You see somebody naked And you say, "Who is that man?" 929 01:02:50,133 --> 01:02:52,863 I was just caught in this whirlwind of... 930 01:02:53,669 --> 01:02:58,606 You know, of being tacked on to this music that was going to be forever... 931 01:02:59,075 --> 01:03:03,205 and being involved in it. And knowing that it was going to be forever. 932 01:03:03,312 --> 01:03:05,906 Because something is happening here 933 01:03:06,015 --> 01:03:09,178 But you don't know what it is 934 01:03:10,353 --> 01:03:14,050 The music actually changed by, I think, the word is freedom. 935 01:03:14,157 --> 01:03:17,217 Everything was changing. It wasn't like four songs a session. 936 01:03:17,326 --> 01:03:19,886 There wasn't any clock. I took all the clocks down. 937 01:03:19,996 --> 01:03:21,657 Nobody had a fucking clock in there. 938 01:03:21,764 --> 01:03:25,427 It's just like, "Play some music." "What about this thing? What about this?" 939 01:03:25,535 --> 01:03:28,504 We're recording 86845. Number one. 940 01:03:28,604 --> 01:03:32,005 Einstein, disguised as Robin Hood 941 01:03:33,142 --> 01:03:36,942 With his memories in his trunk 942 01:03:38,915 --> 01:03:42,749 Passed this way an hour ago 943 01:03:42,952 --> 01:03:46,353 With his friend, a jealous monk 944 01:03:48,491 --> 01:03:51,949 I believe in giving credit where credit's due. 945 01:03:52,061 --> 01:03:54,359 I don't think Dylan had a lot to do with it. 946 01:03:54,463 --> 01:03:58,695 I think God, instead of touching him on the shoulder... 947 01:03:58,801 --> 01:04:01,235 he kicked him in the ass. Really! 948 01:04:01,470 --> 01:04:05,463 And that's where all that came from. He can't help what he's doing. 949 01:04:05,708 --> 01:04:08,768 I mean, he's got the Holy Spirit about him. 950 01:04:08,878 --> 01:04:10,971 You can look at him and tell that. 951 01:04:20,590 --> 01:04:23,024 Well, I ride a mailtrain, baby 952 01:04:23,526 --> 01:04:26,154 Can't buy no thrill 953 01:04:26,896 --> 01:04:29,694 It Takes a Lot to Laugh, It Takes a Train to Cry. 954 01:04:29,832 --> 01:04:32,767 In fact, there was two versions of that cut. The first version... 955 01:04:32,869 --> 01:04:34,928 which turned up on bootlegs, it was like a fast... 956 01:04:35,037 --> 01:04:38,029 It was a much faster and much more jivey version... 957 01:04:38,140 --> 01:04:41,576 that sounded kind of a lot like the other things that had been done. 958 01:04:43,212 --> 01:04:46,238 What the fuck are we doing with this song, man? 959 01:04:46,382 --> 01:04:48,543 It's not such a terrible song to do. 960 01:04:48,651 --> 01:04:50,209 Then he said, "Let's take a break." 961 01:04:50,319 --> 01:04:53,413 And he sent everybody off. And he said it was a lunch break or whatever. 962 01:04:53,522 --> 01:04:55,387 People went out for an hour. 963 01:04:55,491 --> 01:04:58,460 He was sitting alone at the piano working over... 964 01:04:58,728 --> 01:05:01,663 just play a few chords and he'd scribble something down. 965 01:05:01,764 --> 01:05:04,392 And they came back and they did that other take... 966 01:05:04,500 --> 01:05:07,901 after the lunch break and it was, like the much slower, bluesier version... 967 01:05:08,004 --> 01:05:10,700 you hear on the album, and it's really changed the whole character... 968 01:05:10,806 --> 01:05:12,831 and the feel of the song. It was really, really nice. 969 01:05:22,184 --> 01:05:25,551 Well, I ride on a mailtrain, baby 970 01:05:26,389 --> 01:05:28,949 Can't buy a thrill 971 01:05:32,695 --> 01:05:34,925 I'd like to know about the cover of your album. 972 01:05:35,031 --> 01:05:36,623 I'd like to know about... 973 01:05:36,732 --> 01:05:40,828 the meaning of the photograph of you and the wearing of the Triumph t-shirt. 974 01:05:41,504 --> 01:05:42,732 What did you want to know about it? 975 01:05:42,838 --> 01:05:45,329 Well, I'd like to know if that's an equivalent photograph... 976 01:05:45,441 --> 01:05:48,137 it means something. It's got a philosophy in it. 977 01:05:50,212 --> 01:05:53,113 And I'd like to know, visually, what it represents to you. 978 01:05:53,215 --> 01:05:55,445 Because you're a part of that. 979 01:06:00,690 --> 01:06:03,352 I haven't really looked at it that much. I don't really... 980 01:06:03,459 --> 01:06:05,586 I've thought about it a great deal. 981 01:06:06,362 --> 01:06:09,559 It was just taken one day, when I was sitting on the steps, you know. 982 01:06:09,665 --> 01:06:13,101 I don't really remember. 983 01:06:13,202 --> 01:06:15,067 I don't worry too much about it. 984 01:06:15,171 --> 01:06:18,663 But what about the motorcycle as an image in your songwriting? 985 01:06:18,941 --> 01:06:20,135 You seem to like that. 986 01:06:20,242 --> 01:06:24,474 - Oh, we all like motorcycles to some degree. - I do. 987 01:06:25,848 --> 01:06:28,817 Do you prefer songs with a subtle or obvious message? 988 01:06:29,018 --> 01:06:31,987 - With a what? - A subtle or obvious message. 989 01:06:32,088 --> 01:06:35,080 With a message, you mean like... What song with a message? 990 01:06:35,191 --> 01:06:38,649 Well like Eve of Destruction and things like that. 991 01:06:41,530 --> 01:06:43,395 Do I prefer that to what? 992 01:06:44,367 --> 01:06:47,234 I don't know, but your songs are supposed to have a subtle message. 993 01:06:47,336 --> 01:06:50,203 - A subtle message? - Well, they're supposed to. 994 01:06:53,142 --> 01:06:55,303 Where'd you hear that? 995 01:06:56,979 --> 01:06:59,311 - In a movie magazine. - Oh, my God! 996 01:07:02,651 --> 01:07:05,950 Do you think of yourself primarily as a singer or as a poet? 997 01:07:06,555 --> 01:07:09,649 I think of myself more as a song-and-dance man, you know. 998 01:07:11,694 --> 01:07:15,152 Mr. Dylan, I know you dislike labels and probably rightly so... 999 01:07:15,264 --> 01:07:18,256 but for those of us who are well over 30... 1000 01:07:18,834 --> 01:07:23,237 could you label yourself and perhaps tell us what your role is? 1001 01:07:25,841 --> 01:07:28,366 Well, I sort of label myself as well under 30. 1002 01:07:32,214 --> 01:07:36,674 And my role is to, you know, to just stay here as long as I can. 1003 01:07:40,489 --> 01:07:42,514 You're considered by many people to be... 1004 01:07:42,625 --> 01:07:45,458 symbolic of the protest movement in the country... 1005 01:07:45,795 --> 01:07:46,762 for the young people. 1006 01:07:46,762 --> 01:07:47,228 For the young people. 1007 01:07:47,329 --> 01:07:48,990 Are you going to participate in... 1008 01:07:49,098 --> 01:07:52,966 the Vietnam Day Committee demonstration in front of the Paramount Hotel tonight? 1009 01:07:53,069 --> 01:07:54,559 I'll be busy tonight. 1010 01:07:57,740 --> 01:07:58,934 Things had gotten out of hand. 1011 01:07:59,108 --> 01:08:02,009 You know, it fell into the... 1012 01:08:02,111 --> 01:08:04,511 You know, you ask me why I write surreal songs... 1013 01:08:04,613 --> 01:08:08,982 or whatever, I mean that type of activity is surreal. 1014 01:08:09,085 --> 01:08:11,019 I had no answers to any of those questions... 1015 01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:13,645 any more than any other performer did, really. 1016 01:08:14,490 --> 01:08:18,950 But, you know, that didn't stop... 1017 01:08:19,195 --> 01:08:21,663 the press or people or whoever they were... 1018 01:08:22,231 --> 01:08:25,758 from asking these questions. They, for some reason the press thought... 1019 01:08:25,868 --> 01:08:28,962 that performers had the answers to all these... 1020 01:08:29,638 --> 01:08:31,606 problems in the society and... 1021 01:08:32,875 --> 01:08:34,706 you know, like what can... 1022 01:08:35,177 --> 01:08:38,943 What can you say to something like that? I mean, it's just kind of absurd. 1023 01:08:39,849 --> 01:08:43,080 Phil Ochs wrote something in a recent Broadside Magazine... 1024 01:08:43,185 --> 01:08:44,709 to the effect that... 1025 01:08:44,820 --> 01:08:48,517 you have twisted so many people's wigs that he feels that it becomes... 1026 01:08:48,624 --> 01:08:52,856 increasingly dangerous for you to perform in public before an audience. 1027 01:08:54,530 --> 01:08:57,727 Well, that's the way it goes, you know. 1028 01:09:00,469 --> 01:09:03,597 I can't apologize, certainly. 1029 01:09:04,306 --> 01:09:08,436 Do you feel that part of the popularity is because of an identification... 1030 01:09:08,744 --> 01:09:11,338 of your audience with you or with... 1031 01:09:11,447 --> 01:09:13,972 what you're saying or what you've been writing about? 1032 01:09:14,083 --> 01:09:15,345 I have no idea. 1033 01:09:15,784 --> 01:09:18,480 Mr. Dylan, you seem very reluctant to talk about the fact... 1034 01:09:18,587 --> 01:09:21,579 that you're a popular entertainer, and you're a most popular entertainer. 1035 01:09:21,690 --> 01:09:24,250 - What do you want me to say? - Well, I don't understand why you... 1036 01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:27,659 Well, what do you want me to say about it? 1037 01:09:27,763 --> 01:09:31,096 Well, you seem almost embarrassed to admit that you're... To talk about... 1038 01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,259 Well, I'm not embarrassed, I mean, you know. 1039 01:09:33,369 --> 01:09:35,269 What do you want exactly for me to say? 1040 01:09:35,371 --> 01:09:38,363 Do you want me to jump up and say, "Hallelujah" and crash the cameras... 1041 01:09:38,474 --> 01:09:41,272 and do something weird? Tell me. 1042 01:09:41,911 --> 01:09:43,071 I'll go along with you. 1043 01:09:43,179 --> 01:09:45,977 If I can't go along with you, I'll find somebody to go along with you. 1044 01:09:46,081 --> 01:09:48,982 No, but I find that... You really have no idea... 1045 01:09:49,084 --> 01:09:51,552 as to why, or no thoughts on why you're popular? 1046 01:09:51,654 --> 01:09:53,588 - That's what interests me. - I just have... 1047 01:09:53,689 --> 01:09:57,386 I haven't really struggled for that. I don't... 1048 01:09:57,893 --> 01:09:59,383 It happened, you know. 1049 01:10:00,829 --> 01:10:03,161 It happened like anything else happens. 1050 01:10:04,567 --> 01:10:06,728 How many people who labor... 1051 01:10:06,835 --> 01:10:10,066 in the same musical vineyard in which you toil... 1052 01:10:10,172 --> 01:10:12,072 how many are protest singers? 1053 01:10:12,174 --> 01:10:16,804 That is, people who use their music and use the songs... 1054 01:10:17,213 --> 01:10:21,650 to protest the social state in which we live today. 1055 01:10:21,750 --> 01:10:25,186 The matter of war, the matter of crime, or whatever it might be. 1056 01:10:26,088 --> 01:10:27,578 - How many? - Yes. 1057 01:10:27,723 --> 01:10:29,247 - Are there many who... - Yeah. 1058 01:10:29,358 --> 01:10:32,555 I think there's about 136. 1059 01:10:34,330 --> 01:10:36,628 - You say, "about 136"? - Yeah. 1060 01:10:38,133 --> 01:10:40,101 Or do you mean exactly 136? 1061 01:10:41,570 --> 01:10:44,334 It's either 136 or 142. 1062 01:10:44,740 --> 01:10:49,074 At a certain point, people seemed to have a distorted, warped view of me... 1063 01:10:49,178 --> 01:10:52,375 for some reason, and those people were usually... 1064 01:10:52,481 --> 01:10:54,108 outside of the musical community. 1065 01:10:54,216 --> 01:10:56,184 "The spokesman of the generation." 1066 01:10:56,285 --> 01:10:59,152 "The conscience of a..." This, and that and the other. 1067 01:10:59,255 --> 01:11:03,521 That I could not relate to. I just couldn't relate to it. 1068 01:11:03,993 --> 01:11:06,928 As long as I could continue doing what it is that I loved to do... 1069 01:11:07,029 --> 01:11:09,259 I didn't care what kinds of labels were put on me... 1070 01:11:09,365 --> 01:11:13,392 or how I was perceived in the press because I was playing to people every night. 1071 01:11:20,776 --> 01:11:22,971 I played at the Hollywood Bowl. 1072 01:11:23,345 --> 01:11:25,973 Then I left the organization. 1073 01:11:26,215 --> 01:11:30,413 I actually was frightened when I got the tour itinerary... 1074 01:11:30,519 --> 01:11:32,680 to see that we were going to play Dallas where... 1075 01:11:32,788 --> 01:11:34,619 they had just killed the President. 1076 01:11:35,457 --> 01:11:37,550 And I thought, you know: "If they didn't like that guy... 1077 01:11:37,660 --> 01:11:40,424 "what are they going to think of this guy?" 1078 01:11:40,529 --> 01:11:43,123 And I didn't want to, you know, I didn't want to be... 1079 01:11:43,232 --> 01:11:46,690 the analogy to John Connally. 1080 01:11:47,169 --> 01:11:49,535 I didn't want to be the guy next to him. 1081 01:11:49,838 --> 01:11:54,571 I started out on Burgundy But soon hit the harder stuff 1082 01:11:57,846 --> 01:12:01,475 Everybody said they'd stand behind me 1083 01:12:01,583 --> 01:12:04,575 When the game got rough 1084 01:12:05,688 --> 01:12:08,816 The guys that were with me on that tour, which later became The Band... 1085 01:12:08,924 --> 01:12:10,949 you know, we were all in it together. 1086 01:12:11,060 --> 01:12:13,551 We were putting our heads in the lion's mouth and... 1087 01:12:13,662 --> 01:12:16,062 I had to admire them for sticking it out with me. 1088 01:12:16,165 --> 01:12:19,828 Just for doing it, in my book, they were, you know, gallant knights for even... 1089 01:12:19,935 --> 01:12:21,766 you know, standing behind me. 1090 01:12:21,904 --> 01:12:25,362 By the time we got to England, it was out of control. 1091 01:12:25,841 --> 01:12:28,002 And I don't know if word of mouth... 1092 01:12:28,777 --> 01:12:30,972 preceded our concert tour... 1093 01:12:35,284 --> 01:12:39,015 but it really was pretty revolutionary, in the fact that... 1094 01:12:39,254 --> 01:12:41,688 here was someone who everyone loved... 1095 01:12:42,324 --> 01:12:44,656 and they didn't like what he was doing. 1096 01:12:45,094 --> 01:12:46,789 And they were showing it. 1097 01:12:47,229 --> 01:12:49,629 These stages were created for people who stood on stage... 1098 01:12:49,732 --> 01:12:52,030 and recited Shakespearean plays. 1099 01:12:52,134 --> 01:12:54,329 They weren't made for this kind of music we were playing. 1100 01:12:54,436 --> 01:12:57,064 The sound was pretty archaic, really. 1101 01:12:57,406 --> 01:13:01,706 The sound really hadn't been perfected. The sound quality hadn't been perfected... 1102 01:13:02,010 --> 01:13:03,136 many years after that. 1103 01:13:03,312 --> 01:13:06,475 The first half of the concert was Bob Dylan alone... 1104 01:13:06,682 --> 01:13:08,309 acoustic and harmonica. 1105 01:13:08,717 --> 01:13:13,245 When we kicked off the second half, I mean, we did kick ass and take names. 1106 01:13:13,856 --> 01:13:17,155 And we got everyone in there's attention. 1107 01:13:17,393 --> 01:13:19,088 They knew that we had arrived. 1108 01:13:19,361 --> 01:13:22,262 Because they were such fans of his acoustic set... 1109 01:13:22,564 --> 01:13:24,725 that when we came in and did the electric set... 1110 01:13:24,833 --> 01:13:26,892 people have said the word to me that... 1111 01:13:27,736 --> 01:13:31,228 he was a traitor to folk music. The pure music. 1112 01:13:31,607 --> 01:13:34,405 And I'd just about had it, though. I'd had it with the... 1113 01:13:34,510 --> 01:13:36,000 with the whole scene. 1114 01:13:36,745 --> 01:13:40,806 And I was... Whether I knew it or didn't know it, I was looking... 1115 01:13:40,916 --> 01:13:42,577 to just quit for a while. 1116 01:13:43,352 --> 01:13:45,217 What about the scene? What had you had it with? 1117 01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:46,947 What about the scene were you sick of? 1118 01:13:47,055 --> 01:13:50,513 Well, you know, people like you. People like, you know... 1119 01:13:50,626 --> 01:13:53,959 like, just, you know, like just being pressed... 1120 01:13:54,062 --> 01:13:58,328 and hammered and, you know, expected to answer questions. You know... 1121 01:13:58,434 --> 01:14:02,427 What can I... You know, like... It was enough to make anybody sick, really. 1122 01:14:12,714 --> 01:14:16,172 OI' black Bascom, don't break no mirrors 1123 01:14:16,785 --> 01:14:20,687 Cold black water dog, make no tears 1124 01:14:21,690 --> 01:14:24,420 You say you love me with what may be love 1125 01:14:26,061 --> 01:14:29,121 Don't you remember making baby love? 1126 01:14:30,732 --> 01:14:32,859 Got your steam drill now you're 1127 01:14:32,968 --> 01:14:36,597 lookin' for some kid to get it to work for you 1128 01:14:36,705 --> 01:14:39,139 like your nine-pound hammer did 1129 01:14:39,508 --> 01:14:42,568 But I know that you know that 1130 01:14:42,878 --> 01:14:45,244 I know that you show something is 1131 01:14:46,582 --> 01:14:50,040 tearing up your mind 1132 01:14:54,056 --> 01:14:57,025 Tell me, momma 1133 01:14:58,393 --> 01:15:00,759 Tell me, momma 1134 01:15:03,031 --> 01:15:06,000 Tell me, momma, what is it? 1135 01:15:07,469 --> 01:15:11,200 What's wrong with you this time? 1136 01:15:20,616 --> 01:15:21,583 He's cheap! 1137 01:15:22,985 --> 01:15:26,011 And having a half concert. Half one and half the other. 1138 01:15:26,188 --> 01:15:28,918 Fake, hypocrite! 1139 01:15:29,458 --> 01:15:30,755 That's what he is. 1140 01:15:30,859 --> 01:15:33,259 Everybody's wondering when your 1141 01:15:33,362 --> 01:15:36,331 friendship's gonna end but 1142 01:15:36,431 --> 01:15:39,867 Come on, baby, I'm your friend 1143 01:15:39,968 --> 01:15:42,903 And I know that you know that I know 1144 01:15:43,805 --> 01:15:46,000 that you show something 1145 01:15:47,543 --> 01:15:51,775 Is tearing up your mind 1146 01:15:55,083 --> 01:15:57,176 - Crap. - Crap. Rubbish. 1147 01:15:58,353 --> 01:15:59,911 - Complete rubbish. - Pathetic. 1148 01:16:00,022 --> 01:16:01,455 Moronic. 1149 01:16:01,690 --> 01:16:05,148 We paid to see a flipping folk singer, not a big group. 1150 01:16:12,935 --> 01:16:15,028 - Didn't you boo me last night? - I didn't. 1151 01:16:15,137 --> 01:16:16,866 - Oh? - We didn't boo you, Bob. 1152 01:16:17,005 --> 01:16:18,768 - Please, just a minute. - Well. 1153 01:16:18,874 --> 01:16:21,468 I want the names of all the people that booed me. 1154 01:16:21,577 --> 01:16:25,138 We didn't boo you! Come back soon. 1155 01:16:25,347 --> 01:16:28,214 Okay. I'll... I'll be back in a month or two. 1156 01:16:28,317 --> 01:16:31,377 - We'll wait ya! - So long, cheerio! 1157 01:16:31,820 --> 01:16:33,754 All you sweet, lovely people. 1158 01:16:33,855 --> 01:16:35,618 - Hello, Bob! - So long, sweet... 1159 01:16:35,724 --> 01:16:38,591 For the first half, when they're all so quiet, I'll just... 1160 01:16:38,694 --> 01:16:42,494 I'll play four or five songs and they just don't make a sound. 1161 01:16:42,931 --> 01:16:44,523 All of a sudden, "Boo." 1162 01:16:47,736 --> 01:16:50,227 And then Albert will come out and they go, "Boo." 1163 01:16:50,339 --> 01:16:52,739 And I loved the description in the paper last night. 1164 01:16:52,841 --> 01:16:54,103 What they said, that was classic. 1165 01:16:54,209 --> 01:16:56,109 There wasn't one truth in the entire article. 1166 01:16:56,211 --> 01:16:57,838 It was all the most fantastic lies... 1167 01:16:57,946 --> 01:17:00,414 - they could concoct. - From what town, man? 1168 01:17:00,515 --> 01:17:03,973 From the last town, Edinburgh. "Another night of catcalls for Dylan." 1169 01:17:04,119 --> 01:17:07,577 - Oh, I didn't see that. - "Many of the audience walked out." 1170 01:17:08,190 --> 01:17:10,954 I saw one, man. Did you see one paper that said... 1171 01:17:11,059 --> 01:17:14,517 - everybody walked out? - I haven't seen that one. 1172 01:17:14,963 --> 01:17:18,797 Everybody walked out. Saw a paper it said, "Everybody walked out." 1173 01:17:19,034 --> 01:17:22,265 - In Liverpool, I saw it. - They're really losing their minds. 1174 01:17:25,841 --> 01:17:28,469 - Totally insane. - I'm going to walk out. 1175 01:17:29,678 --> 01:17:31,270 "We want the real Dylan." 1176 01:17:31,546 --> 01:17:33,411 "Will the real Dylan stand up?" 1177 01:17:35,050 --> 01:17:38,042 I've decided just to tell them, man, that Dylan got sick. 1178 01:17:43,125 --> 01:17:45,889 What do you think? Just... 1179 01:17:46,061 --> 01:17:47,995 I won't tell anybody what you say. What do you think? 1180 01:17:48,096 --> 01:17:50,690 - Not your personal comment. - Yeah. What do you think? 1181 01:17:51,900 --> 01:17:53,765 I have no opinion about that. 1182 01:17:54,269 --> 01:17:55,429 Well, why? 1183 01:17:56,038 --> 01:17:58,370 Because I haven't heard you sing, actually. 1184 01:17:58,473 --> 01:18:00,703 You've never heard me sing? 1185 01:18:00,809 --> 01:18:03,573 And here you are sitting here and you're asking me all these questions. 1186 01:18:03,679 --> 01:18:06,011 - Well, this is my job. - Yeah, well. 1187 01:18:14,956 --> 01:18:17,789 - Suck them? - Put them in your mouth for one second. 1188 01:18:17,893 --> 01:18:20,919 Put the corner of your glasses in your mouth. That's it. 1189 01:18:21,029 --> 01:18:22,621 Just suck your glasses. 1190 01:18:27,869 --> 01:18:29,496 No, I don't want to suck them. 1191 01:18:29,604 --> 01:18:31,595 - Does anybody want to suck my glasses? - Yeah. 1192 01:18:53,962 --> 01:18:54,951 Who said that? 1193 01:18:55,063 --> 01:18:59,591 - This one here. This fellow here. - You? Ask him if he's American. 1194 01:19:00,669 --> 01:19:02,796 - Are you American? - I'm French. 1195 01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,832 Well, that's why you probably think the first records are better. 1196 01:19:23,692 --> 01:19:25,683 This is called... 1197 01:19:27,129 --> 01:19:32,089 This is a folk song. I want to sing a folk song now. 1198 01:19:39,007 --> 01:19:41,635 I knew that would make you happy. 1199 01:19:42,544 --> 01:19:47,345 This is called Yes, I See You've Got Your Brand-New Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat. 1200 01:20:52,147 --> 01:20:54,411 - Sign it! - You're so miserable. 1201 01:20:54,516 --> 01:20:57,314 - It won't take... - It won't take half an hour just to sign it. 1202 01:20:57,419 --> 01:21:00,650 They don't ask me, those other two people don't ask me. Why do you? 1203 01:21:00,755 --> 01:21:02,780 - Why shouldn't you give it? - You're so miserable? 1204 01:21:02,891 --> 01:21:04,358 Why do we come out to see you for? 1205 01:21:04,459 --> 01:21:06,859 - Because they like me they said... - We don't like you anymore. 1206 01:21:06,962 --> 01:21:07,951 She called me a bum. 1207 01:21:08,063 --> 01:21:10,395 - I'll tell you why! - May I have your autograph, please? 1208 01:21:10,498 --> 01:21:12,523 He'll call you a bum you don't sign the autograph. 1209 01:21:12,634 --> 01:21:13,293 - Come on, Bob. - Oh, come on! 1210 01:21:14,035 --> 01:21:17,596 You don't need my autograph. If you needed it, I'd give it to you. 1211 01:21:18,206 --> 01:21:21,937 - Just give up your autograph, will you? - What's wrong with him today, eh? 1212 01:21:22,077 --> 01:21:24,568 Ain't it just like the night 1213 01:21:24,679 --> 01:21:28,479 to play tricks when you're trying to be so quiet? 1214 01:21:32,487 --> 01:21:34,921 We sit here stranded 1215 01:21:35,390 --> 01:21:39,053 though we all do our best to deny it 1216 01:21:42,530 --> 01:21:46,694 And Louise holds a handful of rain 1217 01:21:46,935 --> 01:21:50,063 tempting you to defy it 1218 01:21:52,908 --> 01:21:57,572 Lights flicker from the opposite loft 1219 01:21:58,980 --> 01:22:02,472 In this room the heat pipes just cough 1220 01:22:04,386 --> 01:22:08,083 The country music station plays soft 1221 01:22:08,390 --> 01:22:12,326 But there's nothing, really nothing to turn off 1222 01:22:18,233 --> 01:22:20,565 Just Louise 1223 01:22:21,202 --> 01:22:25,195 and her lover so entwined 1224 01:22:28,643 --> 01:22:32,807 And these visions of Johanna 1225 01:22:34,549 --> 01:22:37,950 that conquer my mind 1226 01:22:48,930 --> 01:22:50,898 Hey, we've been on the road a long time, right? 1227 01:22:50,999 --> 01:22:53,365 I don't know. I don't remember. 1228 01:22:53,668 --> 01:22:56,398 - I guess maybe we have. - We've been on the road a very long time. 1229 01:22:56,504 --> 01:23:00,065 Man, I can't make it tonight. I don't know how to cover up for it. 1230 01:23:00,175 --> 01:23:02,405 It's something I never figured out. 1231 01:23:03,311 --> 01:23:06,747 There's nothing I can do about it. I just shouldn't be singing. 1232 01:23:08,249 --> 01:23:10,581 I think I'm gonna get me a new Bob Dylan next week. 1233 01:23:10,685 --> 01:23:12,846 Get me a new Bob Dylan and use him. 1234 01:23:14,389 --> 01:23:16,914 Use the new Bob Dylan, see how long he lasts! 1235 01:23:17,359 --> 01:23:19,953 He brags of his misery 1236 01:23:20,395 --> 01:23:23,592 he likes to live dangerously 1237 01:23:27,302 --> 01:23:29,896 And when bringing her name up 1238 01:23:30,271 --> 01:23:33,434 he speaks of her farewell kiss to me 1239 01:23:37,178 --> 01:23:40,045 He's sure got a lot of gall 1240 01:23:42,350 --> 01:23:45,717 to be so useless and all 1241 01:23:47,555 --> 01:23:51,548 Muttering small talk at the wall 1242 01:23:51,893 --> 01:23:54,487 while I'm in the hall 1243 01:23:58,233 --> 01:24:01,361 Oh, how can I explain? 1244 01:24:01,469 --> 01:24:05,428 It's so hard to get on 1245 01:24:08,743 --> 01:24:12,873 And these visions of Johanna 1246 01:24:13,815 --> 01:24:18,445 they kept me up past the dawn 1247 01:24:42,010 --> 01:24:45,138 I want to go home. You know what home is? 1248 01:24:45,647 --> 01:24:49,606 I don't want to go to Italy no more. I don't want to go nowhere no more. 1249 01:24:49,984 --> 01:24:52,282 You end up crashing in a private airplane... 1250 01:24:52,387 --> 01:24:55,220 in the mountains of Tennessee. 1251 01:24:56,825 --> 01:24:57,883 Or Sicily. 1252 01:25:00,061 --> 01:25:04,157 When you stay in the States, I mean, when you come back? 1253 01:25:04,499 --> 01:25:06,660 I don't know. I just want to go home. 1254 01:25:46,703 --> 01:25:48,967 - Are you in the controls at all? - Yeah. 1255 01:25:49,105 --> 01:25:50,402 What does it sound like? 1256 01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:53,165 Like you're in a recording studio downstairs... 1257 01:25:53,310 --> 01:25:55,278 the son of a bitch picks up great here. 1258 01:25:55,579 --> 01:25:58,412 The acoustics are fantastic. I don't know what they'll be like... 1259 01:25:58,515 --> 01:26:01,678 Fellas, can we have you, please? In about two minutes. 1260 01:26:02,619 --> 01:26:03,984 Okay, two minutes. 1261 01:26:04,087 --> 01:26:06,578 No. I mean by the time you get down there it'll be two minutes... 1262 01:26:06,690 --> 01:26:08,351 not, "In two minutes, we start to go down there. " 1263 01:26:10,827 --> 01:26:13,625 - Yeah, two minutes. - Hey, two minutes, man. 1264 01:26:22,506 --> 01:26:25,532 Last on the bill. Not least, ladies and gentlemen... 1265 01:26:28,144 --> 01:26:30,203 here he is, back from the grave. 1266 01:26:30,747 --> 01:26:33,215 Right, straight from the grave. 1267 01:26:42,893 --> 01:26:44,827 I don't believe you. 1268 01:26:54,237 --> 01:26:55,465 You're a liar! 1269 01:27:14,257 --> 01:27:17,124 Once upon a time you dressed so fine 1270 01:27:17,227 --> 01:27:19,787 Threw the bums a dime in your prime 1271 01:27:21,331 --> 01:27:23,026 didn't you? 1272 01:27:25,335 --> 01:27:29,294 People'd call, say, "Beware, doll You're bound to fall" 1273 01:27:29,406 --> 01:27:32,068 You thought that they were all 1274 01:27:32,409 --> 01:27:34,206 Kidding you 1275 01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:39,878 You used to 1276 01:27:39,983 --> 01:27:41,746 laugh about 1277 01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:47,212 Everybody that was hangin' out 1278 01:27:48,291 --> 01:27:52,694 Now you don't talk so loud 1279 01:27:53,730 --> 01:27:57,996 Now you don't seem so proud 1280 01:27:58,802 --> 01:28:02,101 About having to be scrounging around 1281 01:28:02,906 --> 01:28:07,366 for your next meal 1282 01:28:08,278 --> 01:28:10,940 How does it feel 1283 01:28:13,917 --> 01:28:15,179 How does it feel 1284 01:28:18,588 --> 01:28:21,785 To be on your own 1285 01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:27,361 No direction home 1286 01:28:29,332 --> 01:28:32,824 Like a complete unknown 1287 01:28:34,971 --> 01:28:38,463 Like a rolling stone? 1288 01:28:50,286 --> 01:28:52,777 You've gone to the finest school 1289 01:28:52,889 --> 01:28:56,620 All right, Miss Lonely But you only used to get 1290 01:28:57,961 --> 01:29:00,452 juiced in it 1291 01:29:01,231 --> 01:29:05,759 Nobody's ever taught you how to live out on the street 1292 01:29:05,902 --> 01:29:07,733 But now 1293 01:29:08,471 --> 01:29:12,100 you're gonna have to get used to it 1294 01:29:13,710 --> 01:29:18,170 You said you'd never compromise 1295 01:29:18,882 --> 01:29:23,546 With the mystery tramp, but now you realize 1296 01:29:24,354 --> 01:29:28,620 He's not selling any alibis 1297 01:29:29,826 --> 01:29:33,956 As you stare into the vacuum of his eyes 1298 01:29:34,297 --> 01:29:35,958 And say 1299 01:29:36,599 --> 01:29:41,400 do you want to make a deal? 1300 01:29:44,074 --> 01:29:47,305 How does it feel 1301 01:29:49,412 --> 01:29:52,176 How does it feel 1302 01:29:54,017 --> 01:29:57,646 To be on your own 1303 01:29:59,756 --> 01:30:03,283 With no direction home 1304 01:30:05,228 --> 01:30:08,857 Like a complete unknown 1305 01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:14,400 Like a rolling stone? 1306 01:30:46,302 --> 01:30:47,894 Thank you. 1307 01:30:55,512 --> 01:31:00,381 Lay down your weary tune 1308 01:31:00,683 --> 01:31:02,048 Lay down 1309 01:31:04,287 --> 01:31:07,552 Lay down the song you strum 1310 01:31:09,926 --> 01:31:12,451 And rest yourself 1311 01:31:12,562 --> 01:31:15,622 'neath the strength of strings 1312 01:31:17,367 --> 01:31:20,996 No voice can hope 1313 01:31:21,104 --> 01:31:22,731 to hum 1314 01:31:25,575 --> 01:31:30,012 Struck by the sounds before the sun 1315 01:31:32,916 --> 01:31:36,716 I knew the night had gone 1316 01:31:38,688 --> 01:31:41,316 The morning breeze 1317 01:31:41,424 --> 01:31:43,892 like a bugle blew 1318 01:31:46,229 --> 01:31:51,132 Against the drums of dawn 1319 01:31:52,936 --> 01:31:57,669 Lay down your weary tune 1320 01:31:57,774 --> 01:31:59,173 Lay down 1321 01:32:01,244 --> 01:32:05,180 Lay down the song you strum 1322 01:32:05,748 --> 01:32:08,273 And rest yourself 1323 01:32:08,384 --> 01:32:11,182 'neath the strength of strings 1324 01:32:13,189 --> 01:32:16,886 No voice can hope 1325 01:32:16,993 --> 01:32:18,290 to hum 1326 01:32:20,396 --> 01:32:23,524 The ocean wild 1327 01:32:23,633 --> 01:32:26,568 like an organ played 1328 01:32:28,538 --> 01:32:32,565 The seaweed's wove its strands 1329 01:32:33,977 --> 01:32:36,571 The crashin' waves 1330 01:32:36,679 --> 01:32:39,546 like cymbals clashed 1331 01:32:41,084 --> 01:32:44,679 Against the rocks 1332 01:32:44,787 --> 01:32:46,812 and sands 1333 01:32:47,757 --> 01:32:52,717 Lay down your weary tune 1334 01:32:52,929 --> 01:32:54,328 Lay down 1335 01:32:56,532 --> 01:33:00,434 Lay down the song you strum 1336 01:33:02,138 --> 01:33:04,629 And rest yourself 1337 01:33:04,741 --> 01:33:07,733 'neath the strength of strings 1338 01:33:09,445 --> 01:33:13,006 No voice can hope 1339 01:33:13,116 --> 01:33:14,640 to hum 1340 01:33:16,286 --> 01:33:21,121 I stood unwound beneath the skies 1341 01:33:23,192 --> 01:33:27,595 And clouds unbound by laws 1342 01:33:28,831 --> 01:33:31,391 The cryin' rain 1343 01:33:31,501 --> 01:33:34,163 like a trumpet sang 1344 01:33:36,272 --> 01:33:41,175 And asked for no applause 1345 01:33:41,945 --> 01:33:46,644 Lay down your weary tune 1346 01:33:46,749 --> 01:33:48,114 Lay down 1347 01:33:50,186 --> 01:33:53,644 Lay down the song you strum 1348 01:33:53,756 --> 01:33:56,088 And rest yourself 1349 01:33:56,192 --> 01:33:58,990 'neath the strength of strings 1350 01:34:00,797 --> 01:34:04,358 No voice can hope 1351 01:34:04,467 --> 01:34:06,332 to hum 1352 01:34:07,870 --> 01:34:12,569 The last of leave fell from the trees 1353 01:34:14,844 --> 01:34:19,076 And clung to a new love's breast 1354 01:34:20,416 --> 01:34:25,353 The branches bare like a banjo moaned 1355 01:34:27,690 --> 01:34:32,627 To the winds that listened best 1356 01:34:34,664 --> 01:34:39,567 Lay down your weary tune Lay down 1357 01:34:42,005 --> 01:34:45,566 Lay down the song you strum 1358 01:34:45,675 --> 01:34:48,041 And rest yourself 1359 01:34:48,144 --> 01:34:50,942 'neath the strength of strings 1360 01:34:52,949 --> 01:34:57,886 No voice can hope to hum 121402

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