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[Cindy] The house itself
attacks people.
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Creates the perfect storm
to really destroy a family.
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My family is kinda falling
apart right in front of me.
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It ripped a big hole
into all of our hearts.
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There's a murderer around
here, I swear to God.
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Instantly, just pushed me
down, right here.
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Did that scare you?
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Yeah, it was so hard.
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His goal would be
to have you all die.
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Oh, my God.
This house feels terrible.
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I keep hearing,
"Murder, murder, murder."
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My name is Cindy Kaza.
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I'm a psychic medium.
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Somebody is conjuring up the spirits
in this house, I swear to God.
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I ask questions of the dead...
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These people are grave robbers.
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...to find answers
for the living.
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I'm a 100% sure that we're
dealing with something demonic.
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I'm Steve DiSchiavi.
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I'm a retired New York
City homicide detective.
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So, when he jumps you like
that, what happens?
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It's my job to dig up history
on every house we investigate.
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I wanted to run the bloodbath.
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And dig up secrets
that wanna stay hidden.
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We've done everything
but burn the house down.
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Together, we help
terrified families.
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A man's voice said,
"I'm going to kill you."
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Decide whether
it's safe to stay.
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I let him sit there
and fight this thing.
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Or pack a bag and get out.
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His goal would be
to have you all die.
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[Cindy] Okay. [clears throat]
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This house is its own entity.
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I think we have to be
pretty careful,
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going in there tonight,
just energetically.
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Because I feel like,
the house itself attacks people.
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Oof. Oh, my God.
This house feels terrible.
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A loud house. Angry house.
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Angry.
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[Steve] So, I'm out here
in Westminster, Colorado.
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Just outside of Denver.
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We got called in
by a guy named Job.
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He's a married father of five.
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And the paranormal
is ripping his family apart.
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But here's what makes
this case different.
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Job is a professional
paranormal investigator.
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So, I asked him
what he needed us for,
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and he said he is in over his
head, and he's desperate.
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Here's hoping that Cindy and
I can help this family out.
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So, Job, you got a beautiful
home, this area's really pretty.
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You got your paranormal man
cave, here in the backyard.
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It seems like everything
could be great for you.
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But when we spoke,
you sounded miserable.
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Steve, it's gotten pretty
dangerous around here,
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to where it's
attacking our family.
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It's attacked me.
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To the point where,
even as a professional, you need help.
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So, let's follow basics.
Who lives here?
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So, here's a picture
of my family.
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[Steve] Wow. You got
some crew here.
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Are you guys a blended family?
- Yeah.
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You've been investigating
the paranormal for how long?
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About six years.
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So you have any inclination
that it could be something
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to do with your work
that's causing all this?
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I don't think so.
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If it's not work, what do you
think might have caused all this?
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I'd say when my cousin Eric
was murdered,
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three years ago,
it opened the floodgates.
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I'm sorry to hear
about your cousin.
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All right, so did they make
an arrest in this case?
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Yeah, they found the guy
and he's been convicted.
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Okay, so that's something.
It's a little bit of closure.
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Um, do me a favor,
tell me about your cousin.
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[Job] He was a great man.
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Would take his shirt
off his back for you.
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And he always gave people
second chances.
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Did he ever live here,
or spend time here?
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He was always here.
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Why do you think your cousin's
murder has something to do
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with the activity
getting worse here.
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It ripped a big hole
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into all of our hearts. And...
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Since, it's been...
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It's just been chaos,
all the time.
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You think he's here?
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I think he drops in.
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I think he hangs out here.
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Okay, so, Job, do me a favor. Give me a
list of what you guys' are experiencing.
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So, there's things
moving on their own.
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We hear footsteps.
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Strange sounds
throughout the house.
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Our moods are being affected
on a daily basis.
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Shadow figures and apparitions.
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Even to the point
where we're being attacked.
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So, Job, when you say moods are
being affected, in what way?
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The anger's just so intense
that you just...
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You can't hold back.
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Do you feel that the...
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the issues with the mood
swings and the paranormal here
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is gonna tear your family apart?
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That's why I wanted
to reach out to you guys
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because I can't lose my family.
- Right.
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Just thinking about it
breaks my heart,
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[Cindy] Wow.
There's definitely a poltergeist here.
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It's creating an environment
where people are so anxious
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and so afraid
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that they're starting to argue,
they're starting to fight.
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So the fear, the anxiety,
the fighting,
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it's feeding
the poltergeist activity.
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That's what it wants.
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There's a combination
of all the things
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that creates the perfect storm
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to make for a huge mess.
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And to really destroy a family.
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People are starting to
not trust each other.
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Somebody is conjuring up the spirits
in this house, I swear to God.
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I just wanna keep saying,
"Stop playing with fire.
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"Like, metaphorically
and literally.
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"Stop playing with fire."
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[Steve] All right, Job.
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So, what experiences are going
on that you can tell me about?
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So, I have awful,
terrible nightmares.
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Okay, can you describe them?
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It was as if I was looking
at hell from a distance.
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Okay.
- And I could see people burning
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in the lake of fire.
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And also, there was a bunch of
shadow figures standing around me.
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And the pinned me to a cross and
then they hung me upside down.
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That's pretty horrific.
Now, let me ask you something.
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I take some over the counter medication
to go to bed and it give me...
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Not nightmares like that but
it gives me some weird dreams.
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You taking anything
to go to sleep? - No.
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Okay, so what else
can you tell me?
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So, I was laying
on the couch downstairs
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and i felt these two big hands
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just slap me on the chest
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and a deep, guttural demonic
voice just say, "Hey."
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- I couldn't breathe. - I don't
even know how to debunk that.
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Okay, has anything else
like that happened?
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So, we were actually
downstairs, watching TV,
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and I had these...
like this burning sensation
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on the back of my neck
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and turns out, it was scratches.
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Did you have an allergic
reaction to anything? - [Job] No.
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So, Job, let me ask you
a question,
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as a professional
paranormal investigator.
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You went into somebody's house,
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you just heard exactly
what you told me,
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what would you tell 'em?
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I would say, "It's time
for you guys to go."
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[Cindy] Lot of physical stuff
that happens in this house.
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Sometimes people are
hanging out here
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and then, all of a sudden,
it's like...
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The cupboards are open.
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It's like, "What?
How did that happen?"
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Are there any other kind
of experiences
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the living might be having
with this poltergeist?
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I feel like... Beds shake...
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Doors slam...
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Things flying around...
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Physical injuries, pushing.
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Would you say the living are
in danger because of this?
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They're in danger
of being physically harmed.
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They're in danger of being
psychologically harmed.
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If something doesn't change,
it's only gonna get worse.
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[Steve] So, Melissa,
I talked to your husband, Job,
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He says whatever's here
is pretty dangerous
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and it's causing everybody
to fight with each other.
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I mean, do you agree with that?
- Yeah.
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He'll be a totally
different person,
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I'll be a totally
different person.
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What I'm seeing in our kids is,
quite frankly, terrifying me at this point.
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I feel pretty terrified,
actually,
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that my family's kinda falling
apart right in front of me.
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And I feel like
I should know what to do.
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Right.
- But I don't.
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Okay, so,
what experiences can you tell me?
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I heard this tremendously
loud banging noise.
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Okay, where was it?
- Upstairs, on the front door.
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We were in the kitchen area.
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Okay, so, how loud was the bang?
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It was super intense and loud.
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Okay. Obviously, you went to the door.
- I ran to the door.
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There was nobody there.
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Okay, so, you had that banging.
Anything else?
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I never feel alone, ever.
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Always being watched.
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And there's always something
with me. Following me.
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So, do you feel that
way, right now? - Yes.
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So you're feeling it now,
do you have any sense
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as to, like,
where it's coming from?
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It just always feels
like it's just nearby,
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just out of arm's reach.
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Just over my shoulder.
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Well, you got a lot of stuff
going on in this house. - Yeah.
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I mean, most people
would have just left.
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[Cindy] There's a really
pissed off male spirit
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that is on this property.
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He's all over this place.
He's all over it.
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Oh, my God.
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He sits in this chair
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when people are sleeping.
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Like, they would feel
like somebody's watching them.
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A lot of anger,
rage, aggression.
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Violence towards women.
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Physically abusive.
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He does have the ability to make
people feel like they're choking
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and he does have the power
to push people.
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So, could they fall
down the stairs? Yes.
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When I'm sitting in this bed,
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know that there are terrible,
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terrible nightmares
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of really dark scenes.
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There's blood, there's gore,
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there's murder.
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He doesn't like this family.
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He doesn't want
this family in this house.
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He especially doesn't want
the kids to be happy.
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He's somebody
who wants to kill the family,
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like, he is so pissed off.
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[Steve] So, I was talking to Mom and Dad
about the stuff that's going on here.
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And, sounds pretty scary.
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Are you guys
experiencing anything here?
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Yeah.
- You are? Okay.
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So Anabelle,
I'm gonna start with you.
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Can you tell me about some of
the stuff you're experiencing?
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Well, I had an experience
in my room,
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that I've been feeling watched.
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Is there any spot in the room
you feel it's coming from?
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My closet.
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[Steve] Your closet. Okay.
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And when does this happen?
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All the time.
- Yeah, and does it scare you?
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Yeah, okay.
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So, Daisy, what experiences
can you tell me about?
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I could hear
these heavy footsteps.
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Okay. Can you describe
what it sounds like?
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It sounds like heavy boots.
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[Steve] When you heard
these footsteps,
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did you go up to check
to see if anybody was up?
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Yes, I have, multiple times.
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And every time I come back
to tell my parents,
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nobody's there.
- Okay.
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And what else
have you experienced?
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00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,847
One time, I was on
a video call with my friend.
247
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And she was, like, "Daisy,
there's somebody standing behind you."
248
00:12:03,166 --> 00:12:05,273
And then I looked back
and there's nothing there.
249
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Did your friend say
if it was male or female?
250
00:12:07,420 --> 00:12:09,246
Male.
- Okay.
251
00:12:09,266 --> 00:12:13,567
Do you wanna move or would you rather
us try to fix this so you can stay?
252
00:12:13,587 --> 00:12:15,767
Fix this so you could... so we can stay.
- You wanna stay.
253
00:12:15,787 --> 00:12:18,166
If we can have it fixed
and still stay here,
254
00:12:18,186 --> 00:12:20,080
it'd be a lot better
than moving.
255
00:12:20,100 --> 00:12:22,166
Okay. So then, that's the deal.
We're gonna have to fix this.
256
00:12:22,186 --> 00:12:23,634
That sound like a plan?
- Yeah.
257
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Okay.
258
00:12:32,467 --> 00:12:33,834
Oh, boy.
259
00:12:34,667 --> 00:12:36,447
I don't like it.
260
00:12:36,467 --> 00:12:39,240
The girl that sleeps
in this room
261
00:12:39,260 --> 00:12:42,033
is really affected
by this house.
262
00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,747
I just feel like,
263
00:12:46,767 --> 00:12:50,066
she's waking up screaming
in the middle of the night.
264
00:12:50,500 --> 00:12:52,180
The image I'm seeing,
265
00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,080
is her bedroom door
266
00:12:54,100 --> 00:12:56,080
and a line of spirits
267
00:12:56,100 --> 00:12:57,847
just, like, waiting to get in.
268
00:12:57,867 --> 00:12:59,847
Do you think this girl
has abilities? - Yes.
269
00:12:59,867 --> 00:13:04,400
The girl who sleeps in this
room is definitely tapped in,
270
00:13:04,420 --> 00:13:07,233
and is definitely
feeding this activity,
271
00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,447
And I feel like she is in danger
272
00:13:11,467 --> 00:13:14,734
because she doesn't
understand what's happening.
273
00:13:16,266 --> 00:13:17,867
It is dangerous for her.
274
00:13:18,667 --> 00:13:20,066
Yeah.
275
00:13:29,266 --> 00:13:31,123
[Steve] So, I was talking
to Mom and Dad today.
276
00:13:31,143 --> 00:13:33,000
They were telling me
about all the scary stuff
277
00:13:33,020 --> 00:13:35,080
that's going on
in the house here.
278
00:13:35,100 --> 00:13:37,980
You guys having a tough time?
- Yeah.
279
00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,300
Say, Carson, will you tell me about
some of the stuff you've had happen?
280
00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,680
I've had anger...
281
00:13:42,700 --> 00:13:44,073
I don't know
where it comes from.
282
00:13:44,093 --> 00:13:45,447
I'll sit... I'll be
sitting in my bed
283
00:13:45,467 --> 00:13:49,000
and I'll feel like I need to punch
or, like, punch the wall.
284
00:13:49,020 --> 00:13:50,547
Does it just come on?
285
00:13:50,567 --> 00:13:52,780
Yeah, it just turns on,
like... - Out of nowhere?
286
00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,000
Yeah, it just... a flick of
a switch and then I'm mad.
287
00:13:56,020 --> 00:13:58,467
Does this happen to you at school?
- Mmm-mm.
288
00:13:58,487 --> 00:14:00,233
So, it's only here,
when you're home?
289
00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,246
Okay.
290
00:14:02,266 --> 00:14:04,447
So, Millie, cutie pie,
291
00:14:04,467 --> 00:14:06,667
can you tell me
what you've experienced?
292
00:14:06,687 --> 00:14:07,980
Yeah.
293
00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,246
So, I was on the couch
294
00:14:10,266 --> 00:14:13,166
and somebody just pushed
me down right here.
295
00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,347
Yeah, it was so hard.
296
00:14:15,367 --> 00:14:17,567
Yeah? Show me
on my hand, how hard.
297
00:14:17,587 --> 00:14:19,266
It was like that.
- Ooh.
298
00:14:19,567 --> 00:14:20,980
Okay.
299
00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,146
Did that scare you?
300
00:14:22,166 --> 00:14:25,380
yeah.
- Yeah, I bet it did. Okay.
301
00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,567
So, Ainsley, why don't you tell
me what you've experienced.
302
00:14:28,587 --> 00:14:31,567
Me and my friend
were upstairs on this couch.
303
00:14:31,587 --> 00:14:34,117
We just see, like,
this big, watery man
304
00:14:34,137 --> 00:14:36,667
just... it just came
out of nowhere.
305
00:14:36,687 --> 00:14:38,146
Okay, you say watery man
306
00:14:38,166 --> 00:14:41,667
like it just appeared off something
as water and it shaped into a man?
307
00:14:41,687 --> 00:14:42,680
Mmm-hmm.
308
00:14:42,700 --> 00:14:43,747
What did it do?
309
00:14:43,767 --> 00:14:47,300
It was just standing there,
like, just...
310
00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:48,766
moving back and forth.
311
00:14:48,786 --> 00:14:50,233
That must have scared you.
312
00:14:51,500 --> 00:14:52,947
So, Carson, you know
what Dad does, right?
313
00:14:52,967 --> 00:14:55,266
Yeah. - Are you interested
in doing that one day?
314
00:14:55,286 --> 00:14:56,246
Kind of.
315
00:14:56,266 --> 00:14:58,367
What about you Millie,
you like what Dad does?
316
00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:00,113
No.
317
00:15:00,133 --> 00:15:02,100
Millie, how come you don't like it?
Does it scare you?
318
00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,046
Yes.
319
00:15:04,066 --> 00:15:06,467
How about you, Ainsley?
- I don't really like,
320
00:15:06,487 --> 00:15:08,080
sometimes, what he does
321
00:15:08,100 --> 00:15:10,567
because I don't want
any ghost to hurt him.
322
00:15:10,587 --> 00:15:12,033
Right, Yeah.
323
00:15:18,066 --> 00:15:20,367
Ooh, I don't
like this room either.
324
00:15:20,387 --> 00:15:22,433
Ooh, I don't like it.
325
00:15:25,767 --> 00:15:29,934
The kids are so affected
by the activity in this house,
326
00:15:30,667 --> 00:15:33,246
I worry about what could happen.
327
00:15:33,266 --> 00:15:35,767
Wouldn't wanna be having
slumber parties in this house.
328
00:15:35,787 --> 00:15:37,233
It's not a good idea.
329
00:15:38,567 --> 00:15:40,146
This is not good.
330
00:15:40,166 --> 00:15:41,867
It is not good at all.
331
00:15:43,467 --> 00:15:45,567
What I feel very confident about
332
00:15:45,587 --> 00:15:48,167
is that one of the kids
333
00:15:48,187 --> 00:15:50,747
opened up a doorway
334
00:15:50,767 --> 00:15:52,467
for a lot of spirits
to come hang out.
335
00:15:54,467 --> 00:15:56,367
And not all of them are nice.
336
00:16:02,467 --> 00:16:04,547
[Steve] So I pulled the deed
on Job's property,
337
00:16:04,567 --> 00:16:07,467
and gave it to a local
genealogist who's helping me out.
338
00:16:07,487 --> 00:16:09,380
She just called me.
339
00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,266
She says, one of the original
owners of the land
340
00:16:11,286 --> 00:16:13,146
had a blessed life.
341
00:16:13,166 --> 00:16:16,634
But all that changed the
second he bought that property.
342
00:16:24,767 --> 00:16:27,066
So, Sara, thanks again for
helping me out with this case.
343
00:16:27,086 --> 00:16:29,266
Um, what did you find out
about this guy?
344
00:16:29,286 --> 00:16:31,900
So, his name is Charles Harris.
345
00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,280
He was born in 1853,
346
00:16:34,300 --> 00:16:35,523
in Connecticut.
- [Steve] Okay.
347
00:16:35,543 --> 00:16:36,747
[Sara] And then came to Denver
348
00:16:36,767 --> 00:16:38,700
after he graduated
from Yale Law School.
349
00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:39,980
[Steve] So he's a smart guy.
350
00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,166
Does he get involved with a
woman, get married? What happens?
351
00:16:42,186 --> 00:16:45,000
Charles circulated in very
wealthy circles in Denver.
352
00:16:45,020 --> 00:16:47,467
And that's how he met and
married Florence Rust,
353
00:16:47,487 --> 00:16:50,083
the daughter
of a wealthy lumber bear.
354
00:16:50,103 --> 00:16:52,680
Florence brough $100,00
to the marriage
355
00:16:52,700 --> 00:16:55,347
that went directly into
Charles' bank account.
356
00:16:55,367 --> 00:16:57,767
Okay so now he's got this
hundred grand in the bank,
357
00:16:57,787 --> 00:16:59,146
what's he wind up
doing with the money?
358
00:16:59,166 --> 00:17:01,800
So, he starts buying up
property all over town.
359
00:17:01,820 --> 00:17:05,480
In 1887, he buys
hundreds of acres,
360
00:17:05,500 --> 00:17:09,400
including the property that you
are currently investigating.
361
00:17:09,420 --> 00:17:11,367
So, on the phone,
you mentioned how things went bad
362
00:17:11,387 --> 00:17:12,847
one he got the property.
What happened?
363
00:17:12,867 --> 00:17:15,547
So, everything looked
like it was going okay
364
00:17:15,567 --> 00:17:19,567
until Charles and Florence and their
children moved into the property.
365
00:17:19,587 --> 00:17:21,180
They had four children.
366
00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,567
And in 1889, the whole family
got sick with diphtheria.
367
00:17:25,587 --> 00:17:27,033
So, from what I know
about diphtheria,
368
00:17:27,053 --> 00:17:28,480
that's a pretty
serious infection.
369
00:17:28,500 --> 00:17:30,867
Yes. they called it
the "strangling angel",
370
00:17:30,887 --> 00:17:33,180
because it actually
closed the throat.
371
00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,200
All right, so the four kids have it.
What happened?
372
00:17:35,220 --> 00:17:37,647
So, tragically,
two of their children died.
373
00:17:37,667 --> 00:17:40,800
Charles Jr, and their
daughter, Margaret... - Okay.
374
00:17:40,820 --> 00:17:42,967
...died withing 36 hours
of each other.
375
00:17:42,987 --> 00:17:44,647
How old was Charles?
376
00:17:44,667 --> 00:17:47,146
So, Charles Jr.
was four years old.
377
00:17:47,166 --> 00:17:50,266
And how old was the daughter?
- Margaret was only a year old.
378
00:17:50,286 --> 00:17:52,046
And that's their obit.
379
00:17:52,066 --> 00:17:54,046
All right. So, this was
a real tragedy.
380
00:17:54,066 --> 00:17:55,800
How did they recover from this?
Or did they?
381
00:17:55,820 --> 00:17:57,380
So, they didn't recover.
382
00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,523
Things went from bad to worse.
383
00:17:59,543 --> 00:18:01,647
His investments started to tank
384
00:18:01,667 --> 00:18:03,347
and he lost
over half of his wealth.
385
00:18:03,367 --> 00:18:06,567
With his failing businesses
and losing two kids,
386
00:18:06,587 --> 00:18:08,547
Harris becomes a beaten man.
387
00:18:08,567 --> 00:18:10,834
And that's when Florence
calls it quits.
388
00:18:12,100 --> 00:18:15,934
In 1892,
Florence files for divorce.
389
00:18:17,300 --> 00:18:18,980
So this is a pretty thick
divorce decree.
390
00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,880
What were the claims that
she wanted the divorce for?
391
00:18:21,900 --> 00:18:26,066
So, the first claim was that Charles
stole all the family's money.
392
00:18:26,086 --> 00:18:28,447
The second claim,
she claims that
393
00:18:28,467 --> 00:18:31,467
her children actually died
because of his neglect.
394
00:18:31,487 --> 00:18:32,980
And the third cause
395
00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,823
was that he was
going around town,
396
00:18:35,843 --> 00:18:38,647
telling everyone
that she was insane.
397
00:18:38,667 --> 00:18:42,266
Okay, so it sounds like this guy might
not have been such a great person.
398
00:18:42,286 --> 00:18:44,767
Um, what happened after the
divorce with the two of them?
399
00:18:44,787 --> 00:18:46,647
So, Charles ends up alone.
400
00:18:46,667 --> 00:18:48,423
And he moves to North Carolina.
401
00:18:48,443 --> 00:18:50,211
Things get any better for him?
402
00:18:50,231 --> 00:18:51,980
There wasn't a happy ending.
403
00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,867
So, in 1944,
he suffers from several falls
404
00:18:54,887 --> 00:18:56,667
and breaks both of his hips.
405
00:18:56,687 --> 00:18:58,617
Okay.
- He ended up bedridden
406
00:18:58,637 --> 00:19:00,567
and lost his ability to eat.
407
00:19:00,587 --> 00:19:02,580
So he starves to death.
408
00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,146
That's a miserable way to go.
409
00:19:04,166 --> 00:19:07,080
So...
- And he dies at the age of 90.
410
00:19:07,100 --> 00:19:10,100
[Steve] This death certificate
screams "died a broken man".
411
00:19:10,120 --> 00:19:11,133
Yes.
412
00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,747
I'm seeing
the angry old man again.
413
00:19:18,767 --> 00:19:21,567
The name Charles
just came to me, as well.
414
00:19:21,587 --> 00:19:23,333
Charlie? Charlie.
415
00:19:24,767 --> 00:19:26,607
Violence towards women.
416
00:19:26,627 --> 00:19:28,447
Just not a nice guy.
417
00:19:28,467 --> 00:19:32,567
This man hated his wife
when he was alive.
418
00:19:32,587 --> 00:19:34,266
I feel like they had a daughter.
419
00:19:34,286 --> 00:19:35,967
I feel like that had...
420
00:19:36,667 --> 00:19:37,980
a daughter and a son.
421
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,567
I feel like there's one of each.
422
00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,480
He's not at peace.
423
00:19:41,500 --> 00:19:43,000
There's no peace for him.
424
00:19:43,020 --> 00:19:44,433
Miserable.
425
00:19:46,867 --> 00:19:49,967
This guy definitely doesn't
wanna talk about his life.
426
00:19:50,900 --> 00:19:52,880
So, I'm gonna try
some automatic writing,
427
00:19:52,900 --> 00:19:55,166
and see if I can get some
information that way.
428
00:19:57,700 --> 00:19:59,233
[clears throat]
429
00:20:11,166 --> 00:20:13,547
The angry man
is connected to this property.
430
00:20:13,567 --> 00:20:16,100
I feel like he would have
died very close to here
431
00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:17,547
or around here.
432
00:20:17,567 --> 00:20:20,000
He's angry that he had to...
that he died.
433
00:20:20,020 --> 00:20:22,083
He's angry that he had to leave.
434
00:20:22,103 --> 00:20:24,166
It carries over
into the afterlife.
435
00:20:24,186 --> 00:20:25,734
He's super angry.
436
00:20:29,900 --> 00:20:32,780
[Steve] So I just got a call
from a local historian.
437
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,423
He tells me Job's property used
to be part of a large orchard.
438
00:20:36,443 --> 00:20:40,066
And there was a very mysterious
death right on the land.
439
00:20:46,767 --> 00:20:48,573
So, Joel, thanks again
for helping me
440
00:20:48,593 --> 00:20:50,400
with this case.
What happened?
441
00:20:50,420 --> 00:20:52,046
So, on July 5th of 1908,
442
00:20:52,066 --> 00:20:54,767
a group of boys went to
the orchard to go swimming.
443
00:20:54,787 --> 00:20:57,257
- What happens next? - So,
when they arrive a 19-year-old...
444
00:20:57,277 --> 00:20:58,967
by the name of
Paul Robert Rudolph
445
00:20:58,987 --> 00:21:00,280
jumped into the lake.
446
00:21:00,300 --> 00:21:01,947
He suddenly let out a scream
447
00:21:01,967 --> 00:21:03,847
and sunk beneath
the surface of the water,
448
00:21:03,867 --> 00:21:06,467
All right. So this kid disappears
after letting out a scream.
449
00:21:06,487 --> 00:21:07,980
Did they ever recover his body?
450
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,367
They did but it took them
several hours to do so.
451
00:21:10,387 --> 00:21:12,246
After raking
and dredging the lake,
452
00:21:12,266 --> 00:21:14,266
they finally pulled out
his lifeless body.
453
00:21:14,286 --> 00:21:15,580
It's kind of a mystery.
454
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:16,980
Paul was a very strong swimmer.
455
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,567
So they are not sure why he
drowned in the lake that day.
456
00:21:19,587 --> 00:21:21,547
[Steve] The circumstances
of this are very strange.
457
00:21:21,567 --> 00:21:23,767
So we got a healthy 19-year-old,
that was a good swimmer,
458
00:21:23,787 --> 00:21:25,367
drowns out of nowhere.
459
00:21:25,900 --> 00:21:27,300
Strange.
460
00:21:32,467 --> 00:21:35,800
[Cindy] There's a spirit of a
16-year-old boy that's also here.
461
00:21:35,820 --> 00:21:38,180
The spirit of a 16-year-old boy
462
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,367
that interacts with
the kids in this house.
463
00:21:41,387 --> 00:21:43,166
Any idea
how he interacts with them?
464
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,300
[Cindy] I feel like
they'll see him.
465
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,433
He... He talks to the kids.
466
00:21:48,453 --> 00:21:50,547
He influences the kids.
467
00:21:50,567 --> 00:21:52,166
Have I said the name Bobby yet?
468
00:21:52,186 --> 00:21:54,433
Rober or Bob, that name?
469
00:21:55,567 --> 00:21:57,066
Okay.
470
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,700
I feel like
he died unexpectedly.
471
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,133
I feel like it's a tragedy.
472
00:22:02,667 --> 00:22:04,080
I feel like it's an accident.
473
00:22:04,100 --> 00:22:06,433
I don't feel like
it was on purpose.
474
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,734
He lives here because he
wants to have a family again.
475
00:22:12,700 --> 00:22:14,123
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476
00:22:14,143 --> 00:22:15,547
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477
00:22:15,567 --> 00:22:18,467
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478
00:22:18,487 --> 00:22:20,767
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479
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480
00:22:24,987 --> 00:22:26,333
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481
00:22:30,266 --> 00:22:32,180
[Steve] So far, I've got
a paranormal investigator
482
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,447
who believes the dead
are ripping his family apart
483
00:22:35,467 --> 00:22:38,600
on the same property where
a former owner lost two kids
484
00:22:38,620 --> 00:22:39,934
and his marriage.
485
00:22:41,300 --> 00:22:43,747
But I wanna see
if there's anything else.
486
00:22:43,767 --> 00:22:46,140
Searching through old records,
I find an article
487
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,533
about the murder
of a notorious gangster.
488
00:22:49,266 --> 00:22:51,246
Turns out,
this homicide happened
489
00:22:51,266 --> 00:22:53,246
just down the street
from Job's house.
490
00:22:53,266 --> 00:22:54,880
I'm heading over
to meet a local author
491
00:22:54,900 --> 00:22:58,000
who says the victim was part
of a famous crime family.
492
00:22:58,020 --> 00:22:59,767
She says he managed
to survive prison
493
00:22:59,787 --> 00:23:01,246
and life as a gangster.
494
00:23:01,266 --> 00:23:03,333
But he couldn't
survive his own marriage.
495
00:23:12,500 --> 00:23:14,480
Lisa, I appreciate you
looking into this case for me.
496
00:23:14,500 --> 00:23:17,900
Um... So it sounds like this guy was
part of an infamous crime family.
497
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,246
What can you tell me about him?
498
00:23:19,266 --> 00:23:21,847
Well, it was 51-year-old
Lloyd Barker.
499
00:23:21,867 --> 00:23:23,907
Does he have anything
to do with Ma Barker?
500
00:23:23,927 --> 00:23:25,947
That's right. He was one
of her four sons.
501
00:23:25,967 --> 00:23:28,166
All right. So I know they were
involved in a lot of crimes
502
00:23:28,186 --> 00:23:30,566
So what did he do to go to jail?
503
00:23:30,586 --> 00:23:32,947
In 1921, he
and some of the gang,
504
00:23:32,967 --> 00:23:37,400
robbed at gunpoint a US Mail
truck in Baxter Springs, Kansas.
505
00:23:37,420 --> 00:23:40,467
And Lloyd was sentenced
to 25 years
506
00:23:40,487 --> 00:23:42,400
in Leavenworth Federal Prison.
507
00:23:42,420 --> 00:23:44,066
And...
508
00:23:45,066 --> 00:23:47,447
here is a copy of his mugshot.
509
00:23:47,467 --> 00:23:50,467
All right. So, does he do the whole 25 years?
Or does he get out early?
510
00:23:50,487 --> 00:23:51,547
Or what happened?
511
00:23:51,567 --> 00:23:54,667
He was let out early, in
1938, after just 16 years.
512
00:23:54,687 --> 00:23:56,517
He was let out
for good behavior.
513
00:23:56,537 --> 00:23:58,347
All right, so it's 1938,
he's out.
514
00:23:58,367 --> 00:24:00,900
Does he go back to a life of
crime or does he stay straight?
515
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,780
He turns over a whole new leaf.
516
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,467
He enlists in the US Army,
becomes a cook
517
00:24:06,487 --> 00:24:08,347
at a POW camp.
518
00:24:08,367 --> 00:24:10,923
And is then honorably discharged
519
00:24:10,943 --> 00:24:13,561
and even wins
a good conduct medal.
520
00:24:13,581 --> 00:24:16,180
And the moves
to the Westminster area
521
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,390
and becomes an assistant
manager at a restaurant.
522
00:24:18,410 --> 00:24:20,600
All right. So, Lisa,
I know from our conversation
523
00:24:20,620 --> 00:24:21,767
that he gets killed by his wife.
524
00:24:21,787 --> 00:24:23,166
What do we know about her?
525
00:24:23,186 --> 00:24:25,146
Uh, so, In 1946,
526
00:24:25,166 --> 00:24:27,947
he met and married
a single mom named Jennie.
527
00:24:27,967 --> 00:24:30,473
She had two kids from a
previous marriage. - Okay.
528
00:24:30,493 --> 00:24:33,000
And then she and Lloyd had
two children of their own.
529
00:24:33,020 --> 00:24:34,080
You know,
from the outside looking in,
530
00:24:34,100 --> 00:24:35,800
it looks like everything is
great, right? - Yeah.
531
00:24:35,820 --> 00:24:37,146
What went wrong?
532
00:24:37,166 --> 00:24:41,166
So, Jennie started to show signs
of mental illness pretty early on.
533
00:24:41,186 --> 00:24:42,847
Um, and back in the day,
534
00:24:42,867 --> 00:24:45,867
people didn't talk about it.
Just wasn't dealt with. - Right.
535
00:24:45,887 --> 00:24:48,000
So, she never
got professional help.
536
00:24:48,020 --> 00:24:49,347
Not that we know of.
537
00:24:49,367 --> 00:24:51,667
All right. So, take me through the murder.
What the hell happened?
538
00:24:51,687 --> 00:24:55,080
Okay, so it's March 18th, 1949.
539
00:24:55,100 --> 00:24:58,123
And Lloyd goes to work like
he always does every morning.
540
00:24:58,143 --> 00:25:01,146
And when he gets there,
he gets a phone call from Jennie,
541
00:25:01,166 --> 00:25:03,967
saying, " I don't feel well.
Come home and see about the kids."
542
00:25:03,987 --> 00:25:06,433
Okay. - So he goes home
like a good husband.
543
00:25:06,453 --> 00:25:09,266
Puts his key in the lock,
opens the door,
544
00:25:09,286 --> 00:25:12,216
and is met by Jennie
with a 20-gauge shotgun.
545
00:25:12,236 --> 00:25:15,146
She shoots him in the head.
He dies instantly.
546
00:25:15,166 --> 00:25:17,567
Just like that. So he walked into an ambush?
- That's right.
547
00:25:17,587 --> 00:25:19,947
There's an article about it.
548
00:25:19,967 --> 00:25:22,000
[Steve] So I assume she's
arrested and charged with murder?
549
00:25:22,020 --> 00:25:23,447
Yes.
550
00:25:23,467 --> 00:25:26,080
Okay, so now,
what happens at the trial?
551
00:25:26,100 --> 00:25:28,867
So the jury deliberates
for all of 12 minutes
552
00:25:28,887 --> 00:25:30,966
before coming back
with a verdict.
553
00:25:30,986 --> 00:25:33,066
Not guilty
by reason of insanity.
554
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,146
Okay, so this poor slob winds up
555
00:25:36,166 --> 00:25:38,667
turning his life around
after getting out of prison.
556
00:25:38,687 --> 00:25:40,333
trying to raise a family,
working hard.
557
00:25:40,353 --> 00:25:42,000
And then she blows
his [bleep] brains out.
558
00:25:42,020 --> 00:25:43,934
Yeah. Mmm-hmm.
- Just like that.
559
00:25:44,367 --> 00:25:45,667
Okay.
560
00:25:48,300 --> 00:25:51,133
I feel like somebody
got shot around here.
561
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,133
I feel like there's...
562
00:25:54,967 --> 00:25:56,067
...a murder.
563
00:25:56,767 --> 00:25:58,367
I don't know
that it's in this house,
564
00:25:59,166 --> 00:26:01,146
but it has to be close.
565
00:26:01,166 --> 00:26:03,667
I feel like
there might be something
566
00:26:03,687 --> 00:26:05,800
in the ground around here.
567
00:26:05,820 --> 00:26:07,934
Like, bodies in the ground.
568
00:26:08,667 --> 00:26:09,934
It's just...
569
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,547
something's off.
570
00:26:11,567 --> 00:26:15,480
I keep hearing,
"Murder, murder, murder."
571
00:26:15,500 --> 00:26:17,734
There's a murderer around
here, I swear to God.
572
00:26:25,767 --> 00:26:29,246
I saw a lot of terrifying
things in my walk.
573
00:26:29,266 --> 00:26:32,767
But that line of dead going
into a living girl's room,
574
00:26:32,787 --> 00:26:34,567
that has me really worried.
575
00:26:35,266 --> 00:26:36,780
There are several,
several spirits.
576
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,467
Like a train of spirits
going out of the door.
577
00:26:39,487 --> 00:26:40,847
What did they look like?
578
00:26:40,867 --> 00:26:43,257
I saw an older woman
wearing a dress.
579
00:26:43,277 --> 00:26:45,667
I saw a tall man
right behind her.
580
00:26:45,687 --> 00:26:47,146
I saw a teenager.
581
00:26:47,166 --> 00:26:48,880
It's, like,
a variety of spirits.
582
00:26:48,900 --> 00:26:51,533
I mean, they are even, like,
lined up in the doorway.
583
00:26:54,300 --> 00:26:56,473
Next, I described
a terrifying scene
584
00:26:56,493 --> 00:26:58,667
that I saw in the main bedroom.
585
00:26:58,687 --> 00:27:02,000
I saw this very angry...
586
00:27:02,020 --> 00:27:03,246
older man.
587
00:27:03,266 --> 00:27:05,767
sitting in the chair,
just staring at the parents
588
00:27:05,787 --> 00:27:07,280
while they're sleeping.
589
00:27:07,300 --> 00:27:11,233
And he looked like he was
around 68-69 years old.
590
00:27:12,266 --> 00:27:15,166
He had grease on his hands.
591
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,533
Cindy, is this what you saw?
592
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,033
Yeah, that's exactly what I saw.
593
00:27:35,934 --> 00:27:39,166
[Steve] Now that Cindy and I have
completed our investigations,
594
00:27:39,186 --> 00:27:41,834
we're ready to reveal
our findings to each other
595
00:27:41,854 --> 00:27:44,133
and our clients,
for the first time.
596
00:27:44,767 --> 00:27:46,233
So, Cindy,
I'd like you to meet Job
597
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:47,980
and Melissa.
598
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,834
They're married
and have a blended family.
599
00:27:49,854 --> 00:27:51,934
Actually, a big, blended family,
600
00:27:51,954 --> 00:27:53,134
with five kids.
601
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:55,547
Wow.
602
00:27:55,567 --> 00:27:57,834
[Steve] Now, they seem happy
but looks can be deceiving.
603
00:27:58,767 --> 00:28:00,747
This is a family in crisis.
604
00:28:00,767 --> 00:28:03,100
The paranormal is ripping them apart.
- Mmm-hmm.
605
00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:04,647
If we can't help them tonight,
606
00:28:04,667 --> 00:28:06,000
they're not sure
they're gonna make it.
607
00:28:06,867 --> 00:28:09,600
So, Cindy, when she's ready
can tell us about
608
00:28:09,620 --> 00:28:11,066
how things went on her walk.
609
00:28:13,100 --> 00:28:15,467
[Cindy] When I was walking
in the back of the house,
610
00:28:15,487 --> 00:28:17,814
I saw a guy by the RV
611
00:28:17,834 --> 00:28:20,233
and he was holding
a double-barrel shotgun.
612
00:28:21,467 --> 00:28:24,223
I felt like
somebody had been shot.
613
00:28:24,243 --> 00:28:26,980
And there is a lot
of blood involved.
614
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,433
And at one point, I kept hearing,
"Murder, murder, murder."
615
00:28:32,467 --> 00:28:33,814
You know, Cindy,
in my investigation,
616
00:28:33,834 --> 00:28:36,667
I actually did come across
a murder that happened here.
617
00:28:36,687 --> 00:28:37,847
It was a long time ago
618
00:28:37,867 --> 00:28:39,956
but it involved
a woman shooting her husband.
619
00:28:39,976 --> 00:28:42,066
But it sounds like
the perp you saw was a man.
620
00:28:42,086 --> 00:28:43,146
Yeah.
621
00:28:43,166 --> 00:28:46,500
So, you should know of another
murder involving a man,
622
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,567
who spent a lot
of time in this house,
623
00:28:48,587 --> 00:28:51,080
and that's Job's cousin Eric.
624
00:28:51,100 --> 00:28:52,834
I got a photo
of him, right here.
625
00:28:57,500 --> 00:28:58,934
[Job] Eric was a good man.
626
00:29:00,767 --> 00:29:04,567
He was the type of guy that
gave his shirt off his back.
627
00:29:05,266 --> 00:29:06,980
And his heart was so big.
628
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,400
When he died,
it ruined our family.
629
00:29:09,420 --> 00:29:11,033
I'm sorry for your loss.
630
00:29:12,300 --> 00:29:14,714
[Melissa] He was
always at our house.
631
00:29:14,734 --> 00:29:16,767
Big part of the kids' lives.
All right. - Yep.
632
00:29:16,787 --> 00:29:19,246
They all love him
and adore him.
633
00:29:19,266 --> 00:29:21,066
He was everybody's,
like, best friend.
634
00:29:21,086 --> 00:29:22,547
Mmm-hmm.
635
00:29:22,567 --> 00:29:24,500
[Job]When he was
ripped away from this world
636
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,166
it opened a floodgate
of paranormal.
637
00:29:27,186 --> 00:29:29,166
Have you seen him in the house
638
00:29:29,186 --> 00:29:31,166
since he's passed away?
639
00:29:31,186 --> 00:29:33,166
No, But we'll get, like...
640
00:29:33,867 --> 00:29:36,580
He used to smoke
Marlboro cigarettes.
641
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,066
And he would... And you
can smell it in the house.
642
00:29:39,086 --> 00:29:40,916
When you smell cigarette smoke,
643
00:29:40,936 --> 00:29:42,608
that's him coming to say hello.
644
00:29:42,628 --> 00:29:44,300
And coming to say,
"I love you."
645
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,146
His soul's at peace.
646
00:29:46,166 --> 00:29:47,734
That's gotta
make you feel better.
647
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:49,633
It does.
648
00:29:54,467 --> 00:29:56,367
The next thing
that I wanna talk about
649
00:29:56,387 --> 00:29:57,934
really has me concerned.
650
00:29:58,767 --> 00:30:01,180
I feel like
somebody in the house
651
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,146
is trying to communicate
with spirits.
652
00:30:04,166 --> 00:30:07,367
And because of this and other things
that we're gonna discuss later,
653
00:30:07,387 --> 00:30:09,280
I feel like the house has become
654
00:30:09,300 --> 00:30:12,347
sort of like a gateway
for the dead.
655
00:30:12,367 --> 00:30:15,066
Random spirits are coming
in and out all the time.
656
00:30:16,066 --> 00:30:17,046
[sighs]
657
00:30:17,066 --> 00:30:20,600
Job, I think it's probably
time we tell Cindy
658
00:30:20,620 --> 00:30:22,480
what you do for a living.
659
00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:26,166
We do professional
paranormal investigating.
660
00:30:28,934 --> 00:30:30,567
Wow. Okay.
661
00:30:31,934 --> 00:30:34,140
When I walked
into the back bedroom,
662
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,367
I saw a child
who is deeply affected
663
00:30:36,387 --> 00:30:37,647
by paranormal activity.
664
00:30:37,667 --> 00:30:39,246
[Steve] So,
which bedroom was it?
665
00:30:39,266 --> 00:30:40,547
[Cindy] Down the hall,
to the right.
666
00:30:40,567 --> 00:30:43,000
[Steve] So, that's Daisy's room, right?
- [Melissa] Yeah.
667
00:30:43,020 --> 00:30:44,834
I thought she was
around 11 or 12.
668
00:30:44,854 --> 00:30:46,150
[Steve] She's 12.
669
00:30:46,170 --> 00:30:47,447
I saw her waking up
670
00:30:47,467 --> 00:30:49,180
in the middle of the night,
saying something like,
671
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,367
"There's a monster in my room.
There's a monster in my bed."
672
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,307
I think she has abilities.
673
00:30:54,327 --> 00:30:55,634
I think she's a medium.
674
00:30:58,300 --> 00:31:01,567
But she doesn't understand
her gift and it scares her.
675
00:31:02,667 --> 00:31:04,890
During my walk,
I saw a lot of people
676
00:31:04,910 --> 00:31:07,133
standing in line,
waiting to talk to her.
677
00:31:07,834 --> 00:31:09,667
I had a sketch done
of what I saw.
678
00:31:19,867 --> 00:31:21,046
[gasps]
679
00:31:21,066 --> 00:31:22,533
Yeah.
- You ain't kidding.
680
00:31:25,500 --> 00:31:26,733
That's [bleep] up.
681
00:31:27,734 --> 00:31:29,066
[Cindy] That terrified me.
682
00:31:30,367 --> 00:31:33,000
It's like a waiting room.
- [Cindy] Mmm-hmm.
683
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,166
[Job] It makes me
feel like a fool
684
00:31:35,186 --> 00:31:37,066
because I'm supposed to be
685
00:31:37,500 --> 00:31:39,233
the protector of my family
686
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,667
and we pride ourselves
on going out and battling
687
00:31:44,100 --> 00:31:45,246
outside
688
00:31:45,266 --> 00:31:47,166
and the battle's inside my home.
689
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,467
[Steve] I'm afraid to even ask
you if you've seen anything else.
690
00:31:56,487 --> 00:31:58,967
There's definitely poltergeist
activity in this house,
691
00:31:58,987 --> 00:32:00,166
and it's really bad.
692
00:32:01,300 --> 00:32:02,914
It's really dangerous,
693
00:32:02,934 --> 00:32:05,567
On a scale of one to ten,
I feel like it's 11.
694
00:32:06,266 --> 00:32:07,714
[whistles]
695
00:32:07,734 --> 00:32:09,347
For poltergeist
activity to occur,
696
00:32:09,367 --> 00:32:12,066
I think you need three
ingredients you need to have.
697
00:32:12,086 --> 00:32:13,900
Tragedy, something on the land.
698
00:32:14,767 --> 00:32:16,480
You need to have
somebody who is open.
699
00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:20,533
And you need to have arguing
or turmoil in the home.
700
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:22,580
Yeah.
701
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,273
Job, Melissa and the
kids have been fighting,
702
00:32:25,293 --> 00:32:27,669
which is not normal for them,
all the time.
703
00:32:27,689 --> 00:32:30,046
We try to wake up
and be really positive.
704
00:32:30,066 --> 00:32:33,166
And think "Okay, today is a new
day, fresh start."
705
00:32:33,186 --> 00:32:36,934
And then,
somebody is inexplicably
706
00:32:36,954 --> 00:32:38,647
angry or out of character
707
00:32:38,667 --> 00:32:42,066
or just completely
it's like they're not
708
00:32:42,086 --> 00:32:44,280
the same people.
709
00:32:44,300 --> 00:32:46,934
[Steve] Carson was telling me he gets
so mad he wants to punch the wall.
710
00:32:47,567 --> 00:32:48,980
He's ten years old.
711
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,867
Yeah You're losing your [bleep] and
you're thinking to yourself, like,
712
00:32:52,887 --> 00:32:54,516
"Dude, what the hell
are you doing?
713
00:32:54,536 --> 00:32:56,141
"The [bleep] you doing?
Calm down."
714
00:32:56,161 --> 00:32:57,747
The poltergeist activity
can cause
715
00:32:57,767 --> 00:32:59,667
a lot of physical activity
in the house.
716
00:33:00,834 --> 00:33:03,033
I feel like... Beds shake...
717
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,567
Doors slam...
718
00:33:08,100 --> 00:33:09,900
Things flying around...
719
00:33:10,767 --> 00:33:12,433
Physical injuries, pushing.
720
00:33:13,867 --> 00:33:16,467
Now, Melissa, if you can,
tell Cindy about the banging
721
00:33:16,487 --> 00:33:18,266
you heard
on the front door that day.
722
00:33:18,286 --> 00:33:21,367
Yeah, our front door, a loud...
723
00:33:22,100 --> 00:33:24,080
horrifically loud bang.
724
00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:26,033
like SWAT was about to
come in our house.
725
00:33:26,667 --> 00:33:28,547
There was nobody there.
726
00:33:28,567 --> 00:33:30,266
[Steve] Now you mentioned
it about getting physical.
727
00:33:30,286 --> 00:33:32,000
I got a photo here of...
728
00:33:32,567 --> 00:33:33,667
Job.
729
00:33:36,300 --> 00:33:38,647
[Job] We were watching TV
730
00:33:38,667 --> 00:33:41,447
and I felt, like,
a burning sensation on my neck.
731
00:33:41,467 --> 00:33:44,107
And I asked Melissa,
"Can you check and see what it is?"
732
00:33:44,127 --> 00:33:46,767
And she's like, "You got couple
of scratches on your neck."
733
00:33:46,787 --> 00:33:48,600
Now, does all this sound
lie poltergeist activity?
734
00:33:48,620 --> 00:33:50,634
Absolutely, yeah.
- Okay.
735
00:33:55,467 --> 00:33:57,856
[Cindy] The next thing
I wanna talk about
736
00:33:57,876 --> 00:34:00,266
is the dead man
who is very active
737
00:34:00,286 --> 00:34:01,333
in your house.
738
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,266
Mmm-hmm.
- Very angry.
739
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,246
Very aggressive.
740
00:34:06,266 --> 00:34:10,480
To me, he felt to be
in his late 60s.
741
00:34:10,500 --> 00:34:13,100
I was getting the name
Charles, or Charlie.
742
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,547
He hated his wife.
743
00:34:14,567 --> 00:34:16,133
[Melissa hums]
- Hated his wife.
744
00:34:16,934 --> 00:34:19,834
He is very abusive
and violent towards women.
745
00:34:19,854 --> 00:34:21,347
And I feel like he and his wife
746
00:34:21,367 --> 00:34:23,146
had a daughter
and a son, together.
747
00:34:23,166 --> 00:34:26,400
So, they had kids.
But he doesn't like kids in the house.
748
00:34:26,420 --> 00:34:28,500
I feel like
he lived on this property
749
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,146
or connected to the property.
750
00:34:30,166 --> 00:34:32,100
e's really, really angry
that he's dead.
751
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:33,747
He's angry that he died.
752
00:34:33,767 --> 00:34:36,066
And the rage that he felt
in the living,
753
00:34:36,086 --> 00:34:38,246
he carried it to the afterlife.
754
00:34:38,266 --> 00:34:40,767
Well, I have a pretty good
idea who you are talking about.
755
00:34:40,787 --> 00:34:42,266
His name was Charles Harris.
756
00:34:42,286 --> 00:34:43,814
Oh, my God.
757
00:34:43,834 --> 00:34:46,033
So, this is him, right here.
758
00:34:46,266 --> 00:34:47,980
Wow.
759
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,667
So he ended up marrying the
daughter of a wealthy lumber baron.
760
00:34:50,687 --> 00:34:52,647
He got her
to deposit a hundred grand
761
00:34:52,667 --> 00:34:54,734
into his bank account
after they got married.
762
00:34:54,754 --> 00:34:57,850
Absolute fortune
back in the 1800s.
763
00:34:57,870 --> 00:35:00,258
In 1887, he bought up
hundreds of acres
764
00:35:00,278 --> 00:35:02,647
which included the land
your home sits on.
765
00:35:02,667 --> 00:35:05,967
The minute he bought this
property, that's when his life
766
00:35:05,987 --> 00:35:07,380
went straight downhill.
- Mmm.
767
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,667
In 1889, Charles was living here
with his wife and four kids.
768
00:35:10,687 --> 00:35:12,667
When the entire family
got diphtheria.
769
00:35:13,834 --> 00:35:17,266
Tragically, Charles lost
his young son and daughter
770
00:35:17,286 --> 00:35:19,767
to the disease,
within 36 hours of each other.
771
00:35:19,787 --> 00:35:20,814
Oh...
772
00:35:20,834 --> 00:35:23,567
The son was four and the daughter
was, like, one.
773
00:35:23,587 --> 00:35:24,834
I actually have their obit here.
774
00:35:26,166 --> 00:35:28,280
Now, losing two kids
is bad enough, right?
775
00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:31,533
But things continued to spiral
downhill for Harris after that.
776
00:35:32,166 --> 00:35:33,847
Uh, his investments tanked
777
00:35:33,867 --> 00:35:35,867
and he wound up losing
half his net worth.
778
00:35:35,887 --> 00:35:37,180
And it that wasn't bad enough,
779
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,767
his wife Florence
filed for divorce in 1892.
780
00:35:39,787 --> 00:35:42,100
I've got his divorce
decree right here.
781
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,847
And it's a big one.
782
00:35:43,867 --> 00:35:45,767
You mentioned this man
was not a nice guy, right?
783
00:35:45,787 --> 00:35:47,934
Yeah. - [Steve] Harris'
wife would agree.
784
00:35:47,954 --> 00:35:49,080
According to this decree,
785
00:35:49,100 --> 00:35:51,166
she blamed him
for the deaths of the kids
786
00:35:51,667 --> 00:35:53,240
saying he was neglectful.
787
00:35:53,260 --> 00:35:54,814
And then she accused him
788
00:35:54,834 --> 00:35:56,667
of going around town
telling everybody
789
00:35:56,687 --> 00:35:57,947
she was crazy.
790
00:35:57,967 --> 00:36:00,367
Now, after the divorce,
he winds up selling the property,
791
00:36:00,387 --> 00:36:03,347
ad moved to the Carolinas
in 1905.
792
00:36:03,367 --> 00:36:07,367
In 1944, he suffered a couple of
falls and broke both his hips.
793
00:36:07,767 --> 00:36:09,123
Now, he was bedridden,
794
00:36:09,143 --> 00:36:10,500
and was in so much pain,
795
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:11,747
he couldn't eat.
796
00:36:11,767 --> 00:36:14,266
I'm going to show you the death certificate.
As you can see,
797
00:36:14,286 --> 00:36:15,834
it's hard to read, but...
798
00:36:16,767 --> 00:36:19,233
Basically, it says
he starved to death.
799
00:36:20,166 --> 00:36:21,400
[Cindy] Oh...
800
00:36:22,166 --> 00:36:24,233
Could this be the guy Angry guy?
- Yes.
801
00:36:26,166 --> 00:36:28,166
That's crazy
because I've seen him.
802
00:36:28,666 --> 00:36:29,747
[Cindy] You have?
803
00:36:29,767 --> 00:36:31,313
[Job] I have.
- Mmm-hmm.
804
00:36:31,333 --> 00:36:34,433
[Job] He sits on the couch. - [Melissa]
He sits on the black couch downstairs.
805
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,180
[Cindy] Okay.
806
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,246
I saw him sitting in the chair.
807
00:36:38,266 --> 00:36:40,347
The rocking chair
next to your bed.
808
00:36:40,367 --> 00:36:42,467
He was just staring at you
while you sleep.
809
00:36:43,467 --> 00:36:46,367
And I had a sketch done
of what I saw.
810
00:36:51,767 --> 00:36:53,034
[Steve] Oh, Jesus.
811
00:36:54,467 --> 00:36:55,900
He even looks miserable.
812
00:36:58,600 --> 00:36:59,834
Good grief.
813
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,967
That's how he looks when
he sits on the couch, too.
814
00:37:05,987 --> 00:37:07,533
You can just
catch glimpses of him.
815
00:37:08,667 --> 00:37:10,667
[Cindy] Well,
he's really active all over the house.
816
00:37:11,100 --> 00:37:12,947
He's very physical.
817
00:37:12,967 --> 00:37:14,367
He can give people nightmares.
818
00:37:15,300 --> 00:37:16,847
Push people. Shoves people.
819
00:37:16,867 --> 00:37:18,900
It does not want
kids in the house.
820
00:37:19,967 --> 00:37:22,056
Tell her about
you being smothered.
821
00:37:22,076 --> 00:37:24,166
I was laying on the couch and...
822
00:37:24,186 --> 00:37:26,266
I felt these two big hands
823
00:37:26,286 --> 00:37:28,347
just smash into my chest.
824
00:37:28,367 --> 00:37:31,200
Almost to the point
it knocked the wind out of me.
825
00:37:31,220 --> 00:37:33,166
Smashed my face into the pillow,
826
00:37:33,186 --> 00:37:34,433
and was suffocating me.
827
00:37:35,567 --> 00:37:38,000
If it had a couple more
seconds, I wouldn't be here.
828
00:37:38,020 --> 00:37:39,080
Mmm-hmm.
829
00:37:39,100 --> 00:37:40,747
Now, you mentioned nightmares.
830
00:37:40,767 --> 00:37:42,467
You told me
about your nightmares.
831
00:37:42,487 --> 00:37:43,947
Tell Cindy about that?
832
00:37:43,967 --> 00:37:47,567
I saw these black shadows
around the bed.
833
00:37:47,587 --> 00:37:50,200
and they pinned me to a cross.
834
00:37:50,220 --> 00:37:53,150
And as the walls were crumbling,
835
00:37:53,170 --> 00:37:56,080
I'm looking out...
in the distance
836
00:37:56,100 --> 00:37:59,073
and there's this,
like, a lake of fire.
837
00:37:59,093 --> 00:38:02,066
And I can see people
burning and screaming.
838
00:38:02,086 --> 00:38:04,480
When I woke up,
I was just terrified.
839
00:38:04,500 --> 00:38:07,066
And you said this guy hates kids.
Wasn't Millie pushed?
840
00:38:07,086 --> 00:38:08,046
Yeah.
841
00:38:08,066 --> 00:38:10,246
You could hear her land.
842
00:38:10,266 --> 00:38:12,256
And she, to this day,
will tell you...
843
00:38:12,276 --> 00:38:14,266
like, she's like,
"I felt big hands,
844
00:38:14,286 --> 00:38:16,033
"so strong, push me."
845
00:38:16,867 --> 00:38:19,634
His goal would be
to have you all die.
846
00:38:21,767 --> 00:38:24,290
You wanna protect
your family and your kids
847
00:38:24,310 --> 00:38:26,834
and this [bleep] is
sitting in your chair.
848
00:38:29,266 --> 00:38:30,867
Just pisses me off, you know.
849
00:38:30,887 --> 00:38:32,447
I feel guilty.
850
00:38:32,467 --> 00:38:34,433
Like I'm letting
them down somehow.
851
00:38:35,467 --> 00:38:36,634
My heart hurts.
852
00:38:43,734 --> 00:38:45,740
[Steve] So, Job, I'll take a bet
853
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,747
that most paranormal
investigators
854
00:38:47,767 --> 00:38:50,767
would be too proud
to call in anybody for help.
855
00:38:50,787 --> 00:38:53,080
So you deserve
a ton of credit for that.
856
00:38:53,100 --> 00:38:55,166
I know you did it
'cause your number one concern
857
00:38:55,186 --> 00:38:57,266
is keeping your family together.
858
00:38:57,286 --> 00:38:58,447
So now we're gonna find out
859
00:38:58,467 --> 00:39:00,400
if you can become
a loving family again
860
00:39:00,420 --> 00:39:01,647
and if so,
861
00:39:01,667 --> 00:39:04,447
can you do it while still
living in this house.
862
00:39:04,467 --> 00:39:07,033
For those answers,
I'm gonna turn it over to my partner, Cindy.
863
00:39:09,867 --> 00:39:12,667
[Cindy] You guys have
a lot going on in your home.
864
00:39:12,687 --> 00:39:14,747
So first things first,
865
00:39:14,767 --> 00:39:17,000
Charles...
Gotta get rid of Charles.
866
00:39:18,166 --> 00:39:19,756
You need to have
867
00:39:19,776 --> 00:39:21,347
a medium come in
868
00:39:21,367 --> 00:39:23,280
and talk to this man.
869
00:39:23,300 --> 00:39:25,166
And try to get him to leave.
870
00:39:25,186 --> 00:39:26,347
Any particular medium?
871
00:39:26,367 --> 00:39:29,080
Has it gotta be a man or a woman?
Does it matter?
872
00:39:29,100 --> 00:39:33,433
With Charles, I would honestly
recommend having a male medium come in.
873
00:39:34,100 --> 00:39:37,647
Because he hates women so much,
874
00:39:37,667 --> 00:39:39,500
he'll be more open
to listening that way.
875
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:40,734
Okay.
876
00:39:41,867 --> 00:39:44,556
Secondly, I really think Daisy
should meet with a medium
877
00:39:44,576 --> 00:39:47,266
so she can learn
how to control her abilities.
878
00:39:47,286 --> 00:39:48,567
That's really important.
879
00:39:49,567 --> 00:39:50,714
Once she does that,
880
00:39:50,734 --> 00:39:53,467
I really think
the dead will leave the house.
881
00:39:53,487 --> 00:39:55,834
Next, you need
to have a house blessing.
882
00:39:56,867 --> 00:39:59,767
And as you both know,
salt can be effective.
883
00:39:59,787 --> 00:40:02,567
So, putting salt
around the house.
884
00:40:02,587 --> 00:40:04,333
If you do all of these things,
885
00:40:04,353 --> 00:40:05,983
and you can get Charles to go,
886
00:40:06,003 --> 00:40:07,634
then the poltergeist activity
887
00:40:07,967 --> 00:40:09,347
should calm down.
888
00:40:09,367 --> 00:40:12,166
The fighting, I would hope,
would calm down.
889
00:40:12,967 --> 00:40:15,166
And I think that you can
stay in your home.
890
00:40:15,186 --> 00:40:17,013
- That's great news.
- Good news.
891
00:40:17,033 --> 00:40:18,747
That's incredible news.
892
00:40:18,767 --> 00:40:22,580
And there's one other thing
that I did for you
893
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,567
when I was in the house
during the walkthrough.
894
00:40:26,667 --> 00:40:28,233
I do spirit art.
895
00:40:29,467 --> 00:40:32,867
And I drew one
of your spirit guides
896
00:40:32,887 --> 00:40:35,246
who, I believe,
897
00:40:35,266 --> 00:40:36,547
can be helpful in the home.
898
00:40:36,567 --> 00:40:38,390
So, I feel, you can hang him
on the wall.
899
00:40:38,410 --> 00:40:40,233
[Melissa] Yeah. Oh, my God.
- [Steve] Hmm.
900
00:40:42,266 --> 00:40:44,806
That's awesome to feel
like you have backup.
901
00:40:44,826 --> 00:40:47,367
That you're not
the only one in the fight.
902
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:49,847
Yeah.
903
00:40:49,867 --> 00:40:51,347
I just wanna make sure
904
00:40:51,367 --> 00:40:53,467
that you're gonna listen to what Cindy
tells you to do... - [Melissa] Yeah.
905
00:40:53,487 --> 00:40:54,467
...and get it done.
906
00:40:54,487 --> 00:40:55,447
Definitely.
907
00:40:55,467 --> 00:40:57,567
Not afraid
of the heavy lifting part.
908
00:40:57,587 --> 00:40:59,100
I'm ready to fight.
909
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:00,634
I'm ready to go to war.
910
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,066
[Cindy] I'm really happy that I
was able to give some good news
911
00:41:05,086 --> 00:41:06,533
to Job and Melissa.
912
00:41:07,166 --> 00:41:09,013
They have a lot of work to do.
913
00:41:09,033 --> 00:41:11,790
But I really think
that if they follow my advice,
914
00:41:11,810 --> 00:41:14,547
the unwanted dead
will leave the house,
915
00:41:14,567 --> 00:41:16,667
and they can go back
to being a loving family.
916
00:41:25,867 --> 00:41:27,747
Hey, Steve.
Hey, Cindy.
917
00:41:27,767 --> 00:41:29,246
We wanted to send you
an update video
918
00:41:29,266 --> 00:41:32,673
on everything that's been
going on inside the house.
919
00:41:32,693 --> 00:41:36,080
We reached out to a priest
in the Catholic Church
920
00:41:36,100 --> 00:41:40,100
to come out and do a rite of
exorcism and bless the house.
921
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,934
And since,
things have gotten a lot better.
922
00:41:42,954 --> 00:41:45,967
Yeah, it's a much lighter,
923
00:41:45,987 --> 00:41:47,447
more reflective place
924
00:41:47,467 --> 00:41:50,734
and we are grateful
to both of you
925
00:41:50,754 --> 00:41:52,950
for making us realize
926
00:41:52,970 --> 00:41:54,858
that we're not crazy.
927
00:41:54,878 --> 00:41:56,747
We needed your help.
928
00:41:56,767 --> 00:41:58,867
So thank you.
- Thank you.
72091
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