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Citizens free worshipers
and motorists everywhere.
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Welcome to another installment
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Of the history of the world
in six glasses.
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I've got my dancing partner
and bar regular here
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At my favorite bar, my bar,
and we've got the great sharp
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Witted, iron tongued
kevin nealon.
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I was wondering where
my tongue was so heavy.
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We're here
to talk about soda today,
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Which is really
the youngest drink
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That we're talking about
in our series.
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Danny, let's go.
One quick question, sir.
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Is there anything you don't know
about liquids?
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It depends
what what liquid you're.
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You know, on my phenols, my
polyphenols, I'm still a little.
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I used to have the molecular
structure memorized
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And dried out for it,
but I can't.
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Beer and wine
are thousands of years old.
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Coffee and tea go almost
not far back, but soda is barely
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A hundred years old and change.
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So first question.
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Do you guys drink
soda of any kind of variety?
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I haven't drink soda
in about 12 years.
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Oh, maybe 15 years.
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I used to drink a lot of diet
coke.
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You could tell
how much weight of loss that
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You're in.
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But the sodas, I like
or the little cokes and the wax
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Little bottles, I'm at that big,
and you put away your mouth
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And a little liquid comes out
and just chew on them.
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I would have like
three of those a day,
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But I just eat the wax,
leave the soda be.
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So let's bring some soda.
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I'm willing to go off the wagon.
Let's try. It. Right.
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I am tom standage.
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I'm the author of this book
about the history of drinking
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And the drink that symbolizes
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The modern era
is, of course, coca-cola.
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What tom calls the modern
era is really the american era.
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The story of soda starts
small and mom and pop stores
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And pharmacies
and soda fountains,
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But it quickly develops
into a powerful example
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Of american ambition
and know how
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The kind of soda today
represents complicated
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Supply chains
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That are a mastery of logistics,
science,
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Marketing
all had a global scale.
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So if you open a coke or pepsi
or a 7up anywhere in the world
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And they truly are
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Everywhere in the world, it's
going to taste exactly the same.
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There's
something very democratic,
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Small d democratic about soda.
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But first,
let's talk about bubbles.
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What we call soda today of
kind of fizzy drinks in general.
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So there were always springs
that produced some slightly
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Fizzy water
and people would drink that
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And say it had sort of health
giving properties.
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But it's not until essentially
the 1800s that people start
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To figure out
how you can add bubbles to water
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And then how you can
mix flavors with that.
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And that's really
what leads to all of that.
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And so soda drinks
that we have today.
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Look at all these varieties,
orange crush bubbles up
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Root beer.
We've got classic root beer.
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Classic root the root beer.
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Come on, let's have a
look. There.
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You should take this.
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Oh, so, peach.
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Oh, man. A little ice cream in
there would be great.
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What do you call soda
floats? Yeah, ice cream float.
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Here we go. Next.
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All right, so for the root beer.
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Beer. Cheers, gentlemen. Here's
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O. And unlike any of
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The other drinks we've talked
about, soda happens naturally.
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Slightly fizzy water
bubbles up from natural springs,
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And people liked the fizzy taste
it made on the tongue.
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It was just like water,
but with an attitude.
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And you know how it goes.
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When people find a good thing,
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They always ask
the same question
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Can we make this
a little better? Even?
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Can we get a little more fizz,
more taste more, just more?
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And the story of soda
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More than any other drink we're
talking about
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Is about ingenuity and science.
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And everyone's
favorite ingredient, money.
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The thing to remember about soda
is that it's
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Pretty much just like water,
which means the story of soda
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Is mostly the story
of putting things into water.
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Things like sugar and caffeine
and a lot of other
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Interesting things
we'll get to later.
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And taking things out of water
like sugar and caffeine
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And a lot of other interesting
things we'll get to later.
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The soda time
line is pretty straight.
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It starts with natural fizzy
water,
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Fanta manufactured fizzy water,
and then to portable
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Manufactured fizzy water
and then well then to coca cola.
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But before you can do
any of that,
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You need to figure out
how to get the bubbles in there,
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How to get the bubbles
to stay in there,
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And how to keep everything
from exploding.
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And that means that soda doesn't
start in the tea
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Or coffee plantation or the
wheat field or the vineyard.
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Soda starts in the lab.
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The gas in carbonated.
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Water is held.
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Imprisoned.
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You might say.
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In the liquid.
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We actually
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Have a couple of scientists
to thank for modern soda.
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Joseph
priestley is the scientist
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Who in the 1760s observed
that there is gas of some kind
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Bubbling out of the fermentation
vats where beer is being made.
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He decides to investigate
the properties of this gas.
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At the time
it's called fixed air,
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But we call it today
carbon dioxide.
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And he also figures out
how to what he calls impregnate
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Water with carbon dioxide,
and that is soda water.
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That is fizzy water.
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But he doesn't think of
commercializing this idea.
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And it's thomas henry who says,
well, hang on a minute,
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We could sell it.
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And so he starts selling fizzy
water and claiming
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It has all sorts of medicinal
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Benefits
and people pools at the time,
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For example, that it protected
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You from scurvy,
which it doesn't.
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But those were
the sorts of things
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That people were claiming.
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So as with pretty much
all our other drinks,
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It starts off as a medicine.
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People are always
telling themselves
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That something they like
is good for them.
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Beer and wine and spirits
were supposed
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To have healing properties.
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Ancient chinese doctors
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Would prescribe
qi to their patients
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And coffee was supposed
to be good for the brain.
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But all of those drinks, to be
fair, actually do something.
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He can do a lot of things.
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Coffee wakes you up
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And we know that alcohol
can magically transform
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You into an interesting
and hilarious person.
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I guess what I mean is
those drinks do something.
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But what does soda
do? It just makes you burp.
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Pardon me?
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People described all kinds
of properties to fizzy water.
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They thought it could kill
being paralyzed.
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It could kind of make stupid
people clever.
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It make people strong.
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I mean, you name it,
they thought it could do it.
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So that doesn't cure anything.
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When I was a kid, we'd
go to the doctor,
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And every time we're sick,
we go to the doctor
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And the prescription
was two aspirin and two
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Tablespoons of ginger ale.
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A little coke, sir.
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I never got to go, sir. No.
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Still today, for indigestion,
we drink ginger ale.
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You know the cure of soda,
if you can call it that, is
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The fizz, the gas that tickles
your nose and makes you burp.
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That's also the fun of soda.
By the way.
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Ask anyone who's ever taken
a can of coke
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Out of the refrigerator,
shaking it up
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And put it back for the
next poor soul to discover.
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But once joseph
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Priestley invented a way
to get the fizz into the water,
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Some enterprising businessman
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Had to figure out a way
to keep it there
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Long enough to package it, ship
it and sell it because flat
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Soda water is just water
and you can get water for free.
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And the first rule
of capitalism is
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Take something
that's usually free of charge,
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But do something special to it
and people will give you money.
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But a second rule
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Is that the first rule
only works
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If you can get the product
to the people.
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And then in 1783,
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Someone figured out
how to do this with soda water.
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His name may ring a bell.
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So to obtain
commercialize really quickly,
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So within a few years
is the way to make carbonated
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Water being discovered.
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People like john jacob
schweppe came along and started
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Selling artificially
carbonated water in brussels.
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And so pretty much
straight away.
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So that becomes a business.
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Like every great invention,
schweppes process inspired
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More inventions.
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In 1813, chemist charles
prince invented the soda siphon.
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That's the bottle you see
in all those slapstick movies.
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And that meant soda
could finally travel.
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People started
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Selling full soda siphons,
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Which were collected when empty
and refilled at the factory,
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Sort of like that
old timey milk bottle.
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So now they could make soda
and keep soda,
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Which meant
it was time to make soda.
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Tastes
like anything. Like everything.
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Soda was no longer about fizz.
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It was about fizz and flavor.
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Much of it was about branding
and selling
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The potential cures right that
your products could provide.
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But it was also about
identifying
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Particular ingredients, right,
that might actually help
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You feel better.
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Our lawyers want us to make it
clear
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That soda doesn't cure anything.
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It has zero
medicinal properties.
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It was used in the 19th century
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And what they call
patent medicines.
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Those were medicines invented
and patented by shady characters
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Who made all sorts of claims
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That were totally unsupported
by evidence.
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Sort of like today with crystals
and jade eggs and wheatgrass
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And all that stuff.
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But back then, patent medicines
were a very big business,
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So it's only natural
that fizzy water
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Would enter the market
as part of a new miracle cure.
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But again, doesn't cure
anything.
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The thing to remember
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Is that back then
people were sick all the time.
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They drank too much hooch,
smoked too much tobacco,
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And they ate
basically no vegetables.
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And the water
they drank was dirty,
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So they were having headaches
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And upset
stomachs and constipation
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And the opposite
of constipation.
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People back then were a mess.
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So it's not hard to see how
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A little sip of flavored
soda water
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Might make them feel better.
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It might not be a long lasting
feeling better,
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But it might be temporary.
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The salesmanship release
make the sale of the product
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Happen, right?
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So you might never hear
whether or not it worked.
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In the end.
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The story of soda moves
to america
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And becomes, in a lot of ways
the story of america itself.
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In 1807, a professor
of chemistry at yale university,
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Benjamin sillman, began making
and selling bottled fizzy water.
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And then a few years later,
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Joseph hopkins in philadelphia
reinvented the whole thing.
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He invented the soda fountain,
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Which meant that lots
and lots of fizzy
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Water could be dispensed
directly into glasses.
249
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Hawkins delivered a classically
american innovation.
250
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He didn't just invent a process.
251
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He invented the business,
the soda fountain,
252
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A place to sit and sip
and be with other people.
253
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The center of american life
in the 19th century was born.
254
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We had the best soda place
in our town.
255
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It was like a throwback
to the forties.
256
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It was.
257
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You go in there
and there's like a bar,
258
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And the guy behind the counter,
259
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He was probably about 75
and it looked
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Like he worked in this place
for 100 years.
261
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I remember he would say, I want
a dash of something in there.
262
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You want a dash of this?
You want a dash of that?
263
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You know,
they make it right there.
264
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And it was the coolest thing.
265
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And then, you know, they closed
because there was a mob
266
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Shooting in front of the place.
267
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So van drove by
and they let some guy in a phone
268
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Booth
have it now by phone booth.
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For people that are younger
now, you
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Could see hours. You know,
271
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All your
soda fountains are fancy.
272
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They are over the top.
273
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You can't put enough decoration
in other words, a lot of bling.
274
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And plus, you're catering mostly
to women in that time period.
275
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The men are going to
the saloons.
276
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In bars and saloons
all over america.
277
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Bartenders
were inventing cocktails
278
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And then these soda fountains,
they were doing
279
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The exact same thing,
just without alcohol.
280
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A lot of times in a town there
may be several soda fountains,
281
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So it became very competitive.
282
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They would come up with
new concoctions, new mixtures,
283
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And they may use six
different flavors in one drink.
284
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It was a very experimental time.
285
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So you have this kind of random
flavor combinations.
286
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And if people were playing
more akin to sodas
287
00:12:05,575 --> 00:12:08,143
And you name it,
it went into soda at some point.
288
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Remember cream soda,
I hot springs.
289
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So soda.
290
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I don't know what this is.
291
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Oh, it's a grape. Grape.
292
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So that's the sugar
that went like cherry.
293
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That would be delicious.
294
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This is what you dreamt out
in europe.
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That's it.
I would have been drinking
296
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Coca-cola on, huh, grandma?
297
00:12:26,646 --> 00:12:27,846
Oh, wow.
298
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So, coffee, soda? Wow.
I never heard of that.
299
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I'm going to chug this
300
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And drive my freightliner
to cleveland. Oh.
301
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He's like
302
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The soda fountain
was a great place to be.
303
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It was a night out on the town
to go to the soda fountain.
304
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Even when you could get pap
in a bottle, it still was me.
305
00:12:48,418 --> 00:12:52,220
My mom and dad went to the
verner soda fountain on dates.
306
00:12:52,222 --> 00:12:55,340
It was just it was a cool thing
to do and a lot of fun.
307
00:12:55,942 --> 00:12:57,175
Let's stop here for a minute.
308
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An 1866 detroit soda
fountain operator, james verner,
309
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Created one of the earliest
soft drink
310
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Brands in america, berners
ginger ale.
311
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You can still buy it,
but if you buy it in michigan
312
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Or anywhere in the midwest,
313
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You call it
what that guy calls it pop.
314
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Well, this is the thing.
315
00:13:14,511 --> 00:13:16,277
There's a vernacular in canada.
316
00:13:16,279 --> 00:13:18,446
We say soda
or pop. In massachusetts.
317
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They call it a tonic.
318
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Some places call it fizz to.
319
00:13:22,118 --> 00:13:24,953
Tell me what you call that fizzy
drink in a bottle or cannon.
320
00:13:24,955 --> 00:13:27,038
I will tell you where you are
from.
321
00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,174
It's not soda.
322
00:13:29,176 --> 00:13:30,542
That's a contentious.
323
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Term in the midwest.
324
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It is pop soda.
325
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It's pop here.
326
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Normally, I say pop.
327
00:13:37,551 --> 00:13:39,517
I don't say the soda part.
328
00:13:39,519 --> 00:13:40,919
The soda fountain
may have served
329
00:13:40,921 --> 00:13:43,538
Soft drinks for now anyway,
but they served up
330
00:13:43,540 --> 00:13:45,573
What americans
want more than anything.
331
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Choice.
332
00:13:46,743 --> 00:13:47,208
Of course.
333
00:13:47,410 --> 00:13:48,543
Well, the soda fountain was
334
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The wholesome american place
where everyone came to gather.
335
00:13:51,848 --> 00:13:53,281
And, you know, I did that. Yeah.
336
00:13:53,283 --> 00:13:55,116
When I was a teenager
or sarasota,
337
00:13:55,118 --> 00:13:58,453
I was a soda to the seven dwarfs
and king edward.
338
00:13:58,955 --> 00:14:00,171
So, yeah, it was.
339
00:14:00,173 --> 00:14:02,707
I wasn't very good at it.
340
00:14:02,709 --> 00:14:06,644
So the term soda jerk
doesn't sound very nice thing
341
00:14:06,646 --> 00:14:09,948
To call somebody,
but it was actually because
342
00:14:09,950 --> 00:14:13,284
There was a skill to mixing
343
00:14:13,286 --> 00:14:16,454
The extract with the soda water
344
00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:21,910
And it was the jerking motion
that had to be done correctly.
345
00:14:21,912 --> 00:14:23,344
So that you didn't explode
346
00:14:23,346 --> 00:14:26,014
The drink all over the counter
or all over yourself.
347
00:14:26,449 --> 00:14:28,783
And so you went boom like this
just right.
348
00:14:28,785 --> 00:14:30,885
And so that's why
it was the motion
349
00:14:30,887 --> 00:14:32,687
They made that they
were called the soda jerk.
350
00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:38,409
So the
351
00:14:38,411 --> 00:14:40,745
Pop guy from
brenner's is keith wunderlich,
352
00:14:40,747 --> 00:14:42,247
And he wrote the book
on berners.
353
00:14:42,249 --> 00:14:43,314
Literally,
354
00:14:43,316 --> 00:14:45,516
He has the most amazing
collection of berners
355
00:14:45,685 --> 00:14:46,818
Soda fountain objects.
356
00:14:46,820 --> 00:14:49,254
You can imagine he's a soda
fountain.
357
00:14:49,256 --> 00:14:52,173
Ologist versus ginger ale.
358
00:14:52,175 --> 00:14:56,010
Started in a pharmacy back
in 1866.
359
00:14:56,246 --> 00:14:59,948
James verner was a pharmacist
and lots of pharmacists
360
00:14:59,950 --> 00:15:01,950
Were messing
with different kinds
361
00:15:01,952 --> 00:15:04,152
Of soda pop
or different kinds of concoction
362
00:15:04,154 --> 00:15:08,206
Cans, many of them medicinal
with some ingredients
363
00:15:08,208 --> 00:15:12,577
That would not be considered
a soft drink today.
364
00:15:12,746 --> 00:15:14,445
Okay,
we're going to stop right here.
365
00:15:14,447 --> 00:15:16,447
You see how nervous he got
right there?
366
00:15:16,449 --> 00:15:18,283
That's
because it's all fun and games
367
00:15:18,285 --> 00:15:20,218
And pure old fashioned americana
368
00:15:20,220 --> 00:15:23,638
Until you discover what people
were putting into those sodas.
369
00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,608
So tell us, keith,
what was some of that stuff
370
00:15:28,478 --> 00:15:29,761
Up? You had lithium.
371
00:15:29,763 --> 00:15:31,879
Lithium, lithium. That's right.
372
00:15:32,549 --> 00:15:34,082
In fact,
where you list the ingredients.
373
00:15:34,084 --> 00:15:37,085
Right on the label,
carbonated water, sugar,
374
00:15:37,387 --> 00:15:40,121
Citric acid,
lithium, soda citrate.
375
00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:41,572
Just to clarify,
376
00:15:41,574 --> 00:15:42,974
Lithium as a chemical element
377
00:15:42,976 --> 00:15:45,243
With the symbol eli
and atomic number three.
378
00:15:46,212 --> 00:15:47,879
Lithium is used in batteries.
379
00:15:47,881 --> 00:15:49,180
It's highly reactive
380
00:15:49,182 --> 00:15:51,549
And it's used as a fuel
in thermonuclear weapons.
381
00:15:52,252 --> 00:15:55,053
Lithium based drugs are useful
as a mood stabilizer,
382
00:15:55,055 --> 00:15:56,587
An antidepressant,
and the treatment
383
00:15:56,589 --> 00:15:58,740
Of mental illness
such as bipolar disorder.
384
00:15:59,109 --> 00:16:01,342
And they put it in seven up.
385
00:16:01,344 --> 00:16:03,177
Now, our attorneys want us
to make it clear
386
00:16:03,179 --> 00:16:05,179
That lithium
is no longer in 7up.
387
00:16:05,649 --> 00:16:08,383
It's just a refreshing
lemon lime soda these days
388
00:16:08,785 --> 00:16:12,720
Without an atomic number
or psycho pharmacological use.
389
00:16:12,722 --> 00:16:16,874
But just to be clear, lithium
was in seven up until 1948,
390
00:16:17,644 --> 00:16:19,210
And they weren't hiding it
either.
391
00:16:19,212 --> 00:16:21,646
We had a combination
of mineral salts.
392
00:16:21,915 --> 00:16:24,349
Lithium and sodium. Citrate.
393
00:16:24,351 --> 00:16:26,584
When 7up was introduced
in the 1920s,
394
00:16:26,586 --> 00:16:29,420
It was called them label
lithium added lemon lime soda,
395
00:16:29,556 --> 00:16:31,673
Which isn't
the friendliest sounding name.
396
00:16:31,675 --> 00:16:33,041
But wait, it gets worse
397
00:16:33,043 --> 00:16:35,209
Or better
depending upon how you feel
398
00:16:35,211 --> 00:16:37,245
About the drug enforcement
administration.
399
00:16:37,347 --> 00:16:39,380
Scheduled narcotics.
400
00:16:39,382 --> 00:16:41,516
But then what do you expect?
401
00:16:41,518 --> 00:16:43,651
They put soda
fountains in pharmacies.
402
00:16:43,653 --> 00:16:45,787
I mean, that's where they kept
drugs in the first place.
403
00:16:46,256 --> 00:16:46,821
But right now
404
00:16:47,374 --> 00:16:49,774
We're talking about something
spicy but not illegal.
405
00:16:50,877 --> 00:16:52,844
Gilda radner used to drink this.
406
00:16:52,846 --> 00:16:54,345
She used to put this
on her cereal.
407
00:16:54,347 --> 00:16:55,313
No way. Really?
408
00:16:55,315 --> 00:16:56,047
Burners. Yeah.
409
00:16:56,049 --> 00:16:56,948
And you could see
410
00:16:57,183 --> 00:16:59,751
It's not quite like any ginger
drink you've ever had.
411
00:16:59,753 --> 00:17:01,552
It's the oldest soda in america.
412
00:17:01,554 --> 00:17:04,072
It's from detroit
where gilda was from.
413
00:17:04,474 --> 00:17:05,840
There's ginger ale.
414
00:17:05,842 --> 00:17:10,244
Or it's like kleenex or cola
or it's a brand name.
415
00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:10,712
It's. It's.
416
00:17:11,414 --> 00:17:14,515
It's just burners, bold taste,
140 calories per bottle.
417
00:17:14,651 --> 00:17:16,184
It's very good.
418
00:17:16,186 --> 00:17:17,652
I don't know what it would be.
419
00:17:17,654 --> 00:17:20,071
Sure it doesn't have the kick
that ginger ale has.
420
00:17:20,740 --> 00:17:24,976
Ginger did have some health
benefits, but james verner
421
00:17:25,245 --> 00:17:29,814
Actually created this
as a strong soft drink.
422
00:17:29,916 --> 00:17:32,600
He wanted something
that would compete with alcohol.
423
00:17:32,602 --> 00:17:36,387
He wanted a strong
standalone drink that
424
00:17:36,389 --> 00:17:38,072
People could enjoy, yet
425
00:17:38,074 --> 00:17:39,540
Have some sort of
like a bite to it,
426
00:17:39,542 --> 00:17:42,443
Like people were getting
from alcohol in those days.
427
00:17:43,079 --> 00:17:45,513
But a venerable,
venerable american brand
428
00:17:45,682 --> 00:17:47,548
And actually
the origin of the word
429
00:17:47,550 --> 00:17:49,784
Pop comes from here
because the corks
430
00:17:49,786 --> 00:17:51,486
And the tops
and the burners would pop off
431
00:17:51,488 --> 00:17:53,087
Because it was so fizzy
and carbonated.
432
00:17:53,089 --> 00:17:55,506
So burners,
a great american brand.
433
00:17:55,508 --> 00:17:58,609
And they said, give me a pop,
give me a pop burners.
434
00:17:59,112 --> 00:18:01,012
It was a wired on top.
435
00:18:01,014 --> 00:18:02,713
And when you took it off,
436
00:18:02,715 --> 00:18:05,116
It was like a bottle of
champagne went pop.
437
00:18:05,819 --> 00:18:09,353
That's our story
and we're sticking to it.
438
00:18:09,355 --> 00:18:11,639
Okay. So we got the fizz
into the water.
439
00:18:11,741 --> 00:18:14,075
We stabilized it.
We created a soda fountain.
440
00:18:14,077 --> 00:18:16,944
The soda jerks experimented
with flavors and ingredients.
441
00:18:17,380 --> 00:18:19,280
All that's really left in
the story
442
00:18:19,282 --> 00:18:22,383
Is a guy named john pemberton,
a pharmacist from atlanta,
443
00:18:22,685 --> 00:18:23,918
Who was tinkering with flavors
444
00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,220
Around the same time
as james brewer
445
00:18:26,222 --> 00:18:28,840
And came up with a vaguely
narcotic quack medicine
446
00:18:28,842 --> 00:18:32,610
That eventually became the most
recognized brand on earth.
447
00:18:33,146 --> 00:18:36,013
I'll let
you guess which one that is.
448
00:18:37,217 --> 00:18:38,683
Of all the drinks that
449
00:18:38,685 --> 00:18:41,285
We're talking about
in this wonderful series, coke
450
00:18:41,287 --> 00:18:44,906
Feels more american than it is
the american drink, danny.
451
00:18:44,908 --> 00:18:47,041
I mean, come
on, it's very american.
452
00:18:47,343 --> 00:18:49,610
Coke was originally invented
as just a sirup,
453
00:18:49,612 --> 00:18:50,211
And it was sent
454
00:18:50,313 --> 00:18:52,146
To drug stores and pharmacies,
455
00:18:52,148 --> 00:18:54,282
And they had the soda machines
there,
456
00:18:54,284 --> 00:18:56,484
And it was sent in as a sirup
and mixed there.
457
00:18:56,486 --> 00:18:59,187
And then pemberton hooked up
with a guy named frank robinson.
458
00:18:59,389 --> 00:19:00,905
They basically marketed
459
00:19:00,907 --> 00:19:03,107
It, came up with the name
and they formed the company.
460
00:19:04,010 --> 00:19:07,545
John pemberton, as a pharmacist,
was exploring
461
00:19:07,547 --> 00:19:11,782
Various kinds of ingredients
that could help
462
00:19:11,918 --> 00:19:14,652
Treat the ailments
of his potential.
463
00:19:14,654 --> 00:19:17,054
Consumers notice
how awkward everyone is
464
00:19:17,223 --> 00:19:19,440
Because no one wants to say
the word.
465
00:19:19,442 --> 00:19:22,410
They say ingredients and help
anything but what it is,
466
00:19:22,946 --> 00:19:25,279
Which is cocaine.
467
00:19:25,281 --> 00:19:26,447
That's right.
468
00:19:26,516 --> 00:19:30,117
Cocaine was totally unregulated
at the time up until 1914.
469
00:19:30,620 --> 00:19:32,854
So you can weasel
word in any way you want.
470
00:19:33,723 --> 00:19:36,240
But those soda fountain
pharmacists were pushing
471
00:19:36,242 --> 00:19:37,675
The hard stuff.
472
00:19:37,677 --> 00:19:40,845
As were lots of drug
use around the country
473
00:19:40,847 --> 00:19:44,282
And snake oil
salesman of various types.
474
00:19:45,051 --> 00:19:49,320
He was inspired
by an italian producer
475
00:19:49,322 --> 00:19:51,539
Who made a drink called
vin mariani,
476
00:19:51,975 --> 00:19:54,508
Which was a coca of wine,
477
00:19:54,811 --> 00:19:57,778
And it made people feel
very nice indeed.
478
00:19:57,780 --> 00:20:00,214
So john pemberton was inspired
to make his own drink,
479
00:20:00,516 --> 00:20:02,950
Which he called french
wine coca.
480
00:20:02,952 --> 00:20:05,353
Then mariani
was wine plus cocaine.
481
00:20:06,389 --> 00:20:08,005
So they put cocaine into wine
482
00:20:08,007 --> 00:20:09,874
And then into bottles
and sold it.
483
00:20:09,876 --> 00:20:11,909
Now, doctors
say when cocaine and wine are
484
00:20:11,911 --> 00:20:14,745
Added, it
increases the potency of both.
485
00:20:15,281 --> 00:20:17,982
So people in Italy
were drinking wine with cocaine,
486
00:20:18,618 --> 00:20:20,117
And that explains
why it was so hard
487
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,520
To get anything done in Italy.
I mean, why bother?
488
00:20:22,989 --> 00:20:24,872
Everybody's feeling great.
489
00:20:24,874 --> 00:20:26,874
Well, early
on, I think most people know
490
00:20:26,876 --> 00:20:30,945
There was a slight
bit of cocaine in coca cola.
491
00:20:30,947 --> 00:20:33,381
And gentlemen,
a lot of times would come in
492
00:20:33,416 --> 00:20:34,815
To soda fountain drug stores
493
00:20:34,817 --> 00:20:38,719
Early in the morning for a
pick me up and might do it
494
00:20:38,721 --> 00:20:41,606
Several times during the day,
but that would keep them up.
495
00:20:42,909 --> 00:20:45,376
But with the rising temperance
movement in the late
496
00:20:45,378 --> 00:20:49,580
19th century, john pemberton
realizes taking the red wine out
497
00:20:49,582 --> 00:20:50,448
Will allow his drink
498
00:20:50,683 --> 00:20:53,918
To be marketable to a wider
kind of consumer base.
499
00:20:54,254 --> 00:20:57,705
So he's seeking ingredients,
right, that will give you that
500
00:20:57,707 --> 00:21:02,443
Kind of buzzy uplift, right,
without the alcohol.
501
00:21:02,445 --> 00:21:05,746
And he turns to coca and cola
502
00:21:06,215 --> 00:21:08,816
And puts them together
to make this drink.
503
00:21:08,885 --> 00:21:14,221
Coca cola.
504
00:21:14,223 --> 00:21:17,008
By the turn of the 20th century,
people realized that selling
505
00:21:17,010 --> 00:21:19,377
Cocaine by the bottle
wasn't such a great idea.
506
00:21:19,479 --> 00:21:22,346
In 1902, that was outlawed
by the state of georgia,
507
00:21:22,348 --> 00:21:24,582
Which meant that john pemberton
needed to figure out
508
00:21:24,584 --> 00:21:27,251
How to make coca cola
without the cocaine.
509
00:21:27,420 --> 00:21:30,521
Today, coca
cola still has cocaine leaves.
510
00:21:30,523 --> 00:21:32,673
It's still used,
but they are cocaine ized.
511
00:21:32,742 --> 00:21:35,843
So there was originally
a very small amount of cocaine
512
00:21:35,845 --> 00:21:38,212
In the original drink,
and that was a patent medicine.
513
00:21:38,214 --> 00:21:40,748
It was very popular
after the us civil war.
514
00:21:40,750 --> 00:21:41,749
There were a lot of veterans
515
00:21:41,751 --> 00:21:43,584
Who wanted
essentially painkillers
516
00:21:43,586 --> 00:21:45,453
And this was a very popular form
of painkiller.
517
00:21:45,455 --> 00:21:47,738
But coca leaves
still have cocaine in them.
518
00:21:47,740 --> 00:21:49,473
So in order to make coca cola,
519
00:21:49,475 --> 00:21:51,676
You need to get the cocaine out
somehow.
520
00:21:51,678 --> 00:21:52,810
So we go back to the place
521
00:21:52,812 --> 00:21:55,079
Where soda started
all those years ago.
522
00:21:55,281 --> 00:21:57,081
We go back to the lab.
523
00:21:57,083 --> 00:21:58,849
So by 1903,
524
00:21:58,851 --> 00:22:02,186
Coca cola has contract
to the chemical company
525
00:22:02,388 --> 00:22:07,875
To dig cocaine, ice, coca leaves
and sell them to the coca-cola
526
00:22:07,877 --> 00:22:11,312
Company under the name
merchandise number five.
527
00:22:11,681 --> 00:22:14,482
Merchandise number five
is a combination of cocaine,
528
00:22:14,484 --> 00:22:18,185
Ice, coca
leaf and coconut extract.
529
00:22:18,388 --> 00:22:19,520
D cocaine, ice.
530
00:22:19,522 --> 00:22:20,471
How does that work?
531
00:22:20,473 --> 00:22:22,506
Well, the basic process is this.
532
00:22:22,508 --> 00:22:24,709
Coca leaves
go to a factory in new jersey.
533
00:22:24,777 --> 00:22:25,509
I'm serious.
534
00:22:25,778 --> 00:22:27,978
It's in maywood, new jersey,
and it is allowed
535
00:22:27,980 --> 00:22:30,881
By federal regulation to import
coca leaves.
536
00:22:30,883 --> 00:22:33,884
Now, importing coca leaves
has been illegal since 1921,
537
00:22:34,287 --> 00:22:36,620
But this one company,
the maywood chemical works,
538
00:22:37,023 --> 00:22:39,306
Was declared exempt
at that time.
539
00:22:39,308 --> 00:22:42,176
That's how powerful
coca-cola was and still is.
540
00:22:42,512 --> 00:22:44,645
They need coca
leaves to make the real thing
541
00:22:44,847 --> 00:22:46,914
And they will get them
at the factory.
542
00:22:46,916 --> 00:22:48,949
The leaves are cocaine ized
543
00:22:48,951 --> 00:22:50,651
And the coca goes
to coca-cola company
544
00:22:50,653 --> 00:22:52,319
To make the most popular
drink on earth.
545
00:22:52,321 --> 00:22:53,654
And what's left
546
00:22:53,656 --> 00:22:56,006
Hundreds of millions of dollars
worth of cocaine a year
547
00:22:56,509 --> 00:22:58,642
Is either used up
by pharmaceutical companies
548
00:22:58,644 --> 00:23:01,278
To make numbing agents
for dentists.
549
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,080
Or it's burned up.
550
00:23:03,082 --> 00:23:06,584
So while the temperance movement
and eventually prohibition
551
00:23:06,586 --> 00:23:09,420
Was a great boon to coca cola
because it didn't have alcohol,
552
00:23:09,489 --> 00:23:12,973
Those same forces of concern
about people's
553
00:23:12,975 --> 00:23:15,376
Consumption of drinks
that had ingredients
554
00:23:15,378 --> 00:23:19,613
That were potentially risky
or unknown, eventually
555
00:23:19,615 --> 00:23:22,817
Brought coca cola
under the focus of both kind
556
00:23:22,819 --> 00:23:26,587
Of popular movements
and government regulators.
557
00:23:26,956 --> 00:23:30,040
The government went after coca
cola in a court case
558
00:23:30,042 --> 00:23:31,742
And they said basically,
559
00:23:31,744 --> 00:23:33,210
You know,
kids are going to be drinking it
560
00:23:33,212 --> 00:23:34,412
Because it's got caffeine in it.
561
00:23:34,414 --> 00:23:37,181
So they say the government
tried to stop coca cola from
562
00:23:37,984 --> 00:23:39,850
From being produced.
563
00:23:39,852 --> 00:23:41,819
Once they got the cocaine out,
they turned to
564
00:23:41,821 --> 00:23:44,371
The other important
but legal ingredient, caffeine.
565
00:23:44,874 --> 00:23:47,842
And then in another typical
american move, we go to court.
566
00:23:47,877 --> 00:23:49,376
In 1909, a judge ruled
567
00:23:49,378 --> 00:23:52,313
That coca-cola could have
as much caffeine as it wanted.
568
00:23:52,715 --> 00:23:56,450
But in 1916, the supreme court
overruled that judge and said,
569
00:23:56,452 --> 00:23:57,685
Not so fast.
570
00:23:57,687 --> 00:23:59,987
So back to the lab
to take the caffeine out.
571
00:24:00,356 --> 00:24:01,939
Back then, coke
572
00:24:01,941 --> 00:24:04,408
Had about as much caffeine
as a red bull does today.
573
00:24:04,577 --> 00:24:06,877
I mean, I guess
we're just used to it now.
574
00:24:07,780 --> 00:24:08,712
Prohibition was sort of
575
00:24:08,714 --> 00:24:11,582
Great news for coca cola
during the 1920s.
576
00:24:11,784 --> 00:24:13,317
Prohibition
means that people are looking
577
00:24:13,319 --> 00:24:16,754
For alternatives to to alcohol
and coca cola is a social drink.
578
00:24:16,756 --> 00:24:17,771
You can go and get a coke
579
00:24:17,773 --> 00:24:19,840
And someone when you can't
get a beer with them.
580
00:24:19,842 --> 00:24:20,407
What's interesting
581
00:24:20,710 --> 00:24:21,775
Is that when prohibition
comes to an end,
582
00:24:21,844 --> 00:24:24,211
You might have thought
that sales of coke would fall,
583
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,882
But actually coca cola by that
point has become so embedded
584
00:24:28,050 --> 00:24:30,434
In the in the social fabric,
people are so used to it,
585
00:24:30,436 --> 00:24:31,619
It seems to be meeting
a different
586
00:24:31,621 --> 00:24:33,287
Need from alcoholic drinks.
587
00:24:33,289 --> 00:24:35,506
And so it became
even more popular.
588
00:24:35,508 --> 00:24:37,741
So we put the bubbles in
and kept the fears
589
00:24:37,743 --> 00:24:40,177
And added some flavor
and taken out the hard drugs.
590
00:24:40,279 --> 00:24:42,046
Except, of course, for caffeine.
591
00:24:42,048 --> 00:24:44,348
There's still plenty of that
and a lot of sodas.
592
00:24:44,350 --> 00:24:46,417
But now it really comes down
to marketing.
593
00:24:46,419 --> 00:24:49,253
I mean, why do we want to drink
this fizzy brown water?
594
00:24:49,422 --> 00:24:50,971
The marketing tells us why,
595
00:24:50,973 --> 00:24:52,873
Because we want to be
with our friends.
596
00:24:52,875 --> 00:24:55,643
We want to be young and cool
because we want to take a break
597
00:24:55,645 --> 00:25:01,549
And relax
because we want to feel good.
598
00:25:01,551 --> 00:25:03,250
Bartender hey, bob.
599
00:25:04,420 --> 00:25:04,752
We like the
600
00:25:04,987 --> 00:25:07,221
Best about a can of soda
601
00:25:08,674 --> 00:25:11,108
By favorite sound.
602
00:25:11,110 --> 00:25:12,276
Yeah, yeah.
603
00:25:12,278 --> 00:25:12,743
All right.
604
00:25:13,312 --> 00:25:14,845
This is different from the coke
we had as kids
605
00:25:14,847 --> 00:25:16,881
Because the formula
has changed a little bit.
606
00:25:16,916 --> 00:25:19,049
It was from a hijacked
truck. It was.
607
00:25:19,619 --> 00:25:21,986
And that's all we actually. All.
608
00:25:21,988 --> 00:25:22,853
It's all liquor.
609
00:25:23,089 --> 00:25:25,506
All boasted here, so
I can't make a profit otherwise.
610
00:25:25,508 --> 00:25:30,945
I mean, but anyway, here we go.
611
00:25:30,947 --> 00:25:33,247
I get it. I get it.
612
00:25:33,249 --> 00:25:35,916
There had been advertising
for years and years, of course,
613
00:25:35,918 --> 00:25:38,419
But coke invented something
bigger.
614
00:25:38,421 --> 00:25:41,222
Coke invented marketing
615
00:25:41,224 --> 00:25:43,007
Where the brand was wrapped up
in emotion
616
00:25:43,009 --> 00:25:45,476
And image in a classic,
unchanging trademark,
617
00:25:45,845 --> 00:25:49,547
Recognizable
wherever you were in the world.
618
00:25:49,549 --> 00:25:52,816
The greatest marketing plan
that ever happened in
619
00:25:52,818 --> 00:25:55,853
Soda was actually the first one
coca cola did.
620
00:25:56,122 --> 00:25:58,806
So this is back in 1892.
621
00:25:58,808 --> 00:26:02,843
And what coca cola realized is
people didn't really know
622
00:26:02,845 --> 00:26:05,012
The flavor of coca cola said
623
00:26:05,014 --> 00:26:07,381
Basically their big problem was
how do you get people
624
00:26:07,383 --> 00:26:09,717
To try to strength
for the first time?
625
00:26:09,719 --> 00:26:11,986
So what they did is created
the coupon.
626
00:26:12,255 --> 00:26:15,072
They gave out millions
of coupons where people could
627
00:26:15,107 --> 00:26:17,174
Take these coupons to any soda
fountain
628
00:26:17,410 --> 00:26:19,209
And get a free coca cola.
629
00:26:19,211 --> 00:26:22,813
And this introduced
millions of people to coca cola
630
00:26:23,049 --> 00:26:26,517
And made it the
most popular soda in america.
631
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,972
But peter drucker,
632
00:26:32,508 --> 00:26:34,541
The famous management professor,
633
00:26:35,177 --> 00:26:38,512
Said, and I'll paraphrase it,
that coca-cola is fundamentally
634
00:26:38,514 --> 00:26:41,815
An advertiser with access
to a distribution system.
635
00:26:42,218 --> 00:26:42,916
And it's true.
636
00:26:43,152 --> 00:26:46,253
So much of their business
is the production
637
00:26:46,255 --> 00:26:49,373
Of the image around the drinks.
638
00:26:49,742 --> 00:26:52,309
Inherently,
there's no use for soda.
639
00:26:52,311 --> 00:26:54,311
It's just a drink. It's
nothing special.
640
00:26:54,513 --> 00:26:57,147
So the marketing has to sell
everything about it.
641
00:26:57,450 --> 00:26:59,049
Coca cola, for example.
642
00:26:59,051 --> 00:27:01,218
It's about being american.
643
00:27:01,387 --> 00:27:04,938
It's about happy times, it's
about the world coming together.
644
00:27:04,940 --> 00:27:07,174
And all of that
comes from marketing.
645
00:27:07,410 --> 00:27:09,510
Otherwise it's just brown
sugar water.
646
00:27:10,179 --> 00:27:12,513
Coca cola has been associated
with america
647
00:27:12,581 --> 00:27:15,482
And sort of the globalization
of american culture
648
00:27:15,518 --> 00:27:16,617
Throughout the 20th century.
649
00:27:16,619 --> 00:27:18,152
It's it's
globalization in a bottle.
650
00:27:18,154 --> 00:27:19,420
You could go anywhere
in the world and
651
00:27:19,422 --> 00:27:20,971
You'll see the coke logo.
652
00:27:22,008 --> 00:27:24,241
In the war right in the warrant
for the coca
653
00:27:24,243 --> 00:27:26,710
Cola went along with the troops,
is that right?
654
00:27:27,313 --> 00:27:28,312
Yes, it went everywhere.
655
00:27:28,314 --> 00:27:30,147
The first overseas
656
00:27:30,149 --> 00:27:33,384
Bottling institutions
and bottling installments
657
00:27:33,386 --> 00:27:35,886
And factories for coca
cola were in the military bases.
658
00:27:38,441 --> 00:27:38,906
In world
659
00:27:39,475 --> 00:27:42,176
War two when the us troops
went over to europe
660
00:27:42,178 --> 00:27:45,312
And to the pacific to fight coca
cola went with them.
661
00:27:45,314 --> 00:27:45,879
It was seen
662
00:27:46,515 --> 00:27:49,850
As a kind of a central war
supply part of their rations.
663
00:27:49,852 --> 00:27:52,219
They would get pulses of cocoa,
the whole ships
664
00:27:52,588 --> 00:27:56,006
Taking photos of coca cola
to war zones to make sure
665
00:27:56,008 --> 00:27:57,574
People have their coca cola.
666
00:27:57,576 --> 00:27:58,942
That's a sign of just
667
00:27:58,944 --> 00:28:02,946
How american surgery is that
it's an essential item in war.
668
00:28:02,982 --> 00:28:05,215
You can't just leave the soda
behind.
669
00:28:05,651 --> 00:28:06,283
And in fact,
670
00:28:06,752 --> 00:28:08,452
There were executives of coca
cola who were made,
671
00:28:08,454 --> 00:28:10,454
You know, colonels and majors
that were called
672
00:28:10,456 --> 00:28:12,806
The coca cola colonels.
They were given military rank.
673
00:28:12,808 --> 00:28:15,175
Coca cola was as important
as planes and tanks.
674
00:28:15,444 --> 00:28:18,512
It was a very important
part of the rule.
675
00:28:18,848 --> 00:28:19,880
It wasn't soldiers.
676
00:28:19,982 --> 00:28:22,783
It was and it spread american
values around the world.
677
00:28:22,785 --> 00:28:24,585
But not only that,
they were doing this
678
00:28:24,587 --> 00:28:25,686
During the war.
679
00:28:25,688 --> 00:28:27,988
Soldiers that smoke
can put their cigarets and
680
00:28:28,741 --> 00:28:29,873
Keep your claim.
681
00:28:29,875 --> 00:28:31,875
They were
just kicking the butts back a
682
00:28:32,912 --> 00:28:35,979
Little to.
683
00:28:36,549 --> 00:28:38,082
Where
there is a powerful leader.
684
00:28:38,084 --> 00:28:40,217
There's always someone
trying to take their place.
685
00:28:40,586 --> 00:28:41,952
And as coke got big.
686
00:28:41,954 --> 00:28:44,221
Pepsi. Was nipping at its heels.
687
00:28:44,623 --> 00:28:47,408
Or are you a coke
or pepsi person?
688
00:28:47,643 --> 00:28:48,776
I would say coke.
689
00:28:48,778 --> 00:28:50,744
Pepsi, pepsi, pepsi.
690
00:28:50,746 --> 00:28:52,446
No, coke. Remember we did that.
691
00:28:52,448 --> 00:28:54,481
Yes. Burger montgomery.
692
00:28:54,617 --> 00:28:55,883
Yeah. You were the one.
693
00:28:55,885 --> 00:28:58,018
I was. I was. I was there.
I was. Yeah.
694
00:28:58,187 --> 00:29:00,087
Bill murray and your brother.
695
00:29:00,089 --> 00:29:02,039
Yeah, well,
you know the context of that.
696
00:29:02,041 --> 00:29:03,707
Yeah.
How come back to that scene?
697
00:29:03,709 --> 00:29:06,076
Well, you know, that that place
that you guys are sitting on
698
00:29:06,479 --> 00:29:07,010
That live.
699
00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:09,680
My dad,
my uncle paul had a place
700
00:29:09,682 --> 00:29:12,716
Called the olympian
lunch, logan square, chicago.
701
00:29:12,718 --> 00:29:16,019
And back then that, you know,
they were just starting out
702
00:29:16,021 --> 00:29:18,772
In the business
and coke would come in
703
00:29:19,108 --> 00:29:20,340
And they would charge,
704
00:29:20,342 --> 00:29:23,677
You know,
2% retail or wholesale to them.
705
00:29:24,413 --> 00:29:27,581
Pepsi would come in
and offer free canisters,
706
00:29:27,583 --> 00:29:31,585
Sirup, clocks, signage outside.
707
00:29:31,987 --> 00:29:33,687
So I guess you might have
an allegiance to pepsi
708
00:29:33,689 --> 00:29:35,339
Because they would
go to your family.
709
00:29:35,341 --> 00:29:37,541
You've been very good
to my family.
710
00:29:37,543 --> 00:29:40,043
That was pretty good,
in my opinion, was.
711
00:29:40,045 --> 00:29:41,945
Pepsi cola was invented in 1894,
712
00:29:41,947 --> 00:29:43,514
But it doesn't
really get anywhere
713
00:29:43,516 --> 00:29:47,084
Until the 1930s
when under new management,
714
00:29:47,620 --> 00:29:49,386
The company comes up
with a brilliant wheeze,
715
00:29:49,388 --> 00:29:50,554
Which is it offers twice
716
00:29:50,556 --> 00:29:53,307
As much in a bottle
at the same price as coca cola.
717
00:29:53,542 --> 00:29:54,908
And a vicious marketing
718
00:29:54,910 --> 00:29:56,977
Battle breaks out
between the two companies,
719
00:29:56,979 --> 00:29:59,513
And this actually boosts
sales of both drinks.
720
00:29:59,849 --> 00:30:03,016
Ultimately, coca cola
has become the dominant cola,
721
00:30:03,018 --> 00:30:06,487
But that's really the point
at which pepsi cola steps off.
722
00:30:06,489 --> 00:30:08,572
Are we get that's sort of
the beginning of the cola wars.
723
00:30:08,974 --> 00:30:11,208
So the way that they. Gain
market share.
724
00:30:11,210 --> 00:30:14,578
Was they simply offered twice
as much in the bottle for five.
725
00:30:14,580 --> 00:30:14,945
Cents.
726
00:30:15,447 --> 00:30:16,547
You'd get a six ounce
bottle of coke
727
00:30:16,682 --> 00:30:20,284
For $0.05, you get a 12 ounce
bottle of pepsi and a clock
728
00:30:20,286 --> 00:30:23,787
And yeah, I mean, they were
really able in that market.
729
00:30:24,156 --> 00:30:25,873
So it is basically water, right?
730
00:30:25,875 --> 00:30:26,640
So you add the
731
00:30:26,876 --> 00:30:28,308
Carbon dioxide to it,
then you out the sirup
732
00:30:28,310 --> 00:30:30,444
So you can make it very,
very cheaply.
733
00:30:30,446 --> 00:30:31,778
So it's a classic example
734
00:30:31,780 --> 00:30:33,847
Of where you can offer
much more of it
735
00:30:34,016 --> 00:30:35,516
For basically no more money
736
00:30:35,518 --> 00:30:37,851
And that looks like
much better value.
737
00:30:37,853 --> 00:30:39,119
And so you get these bigger
738
00:30:39,121 --> 00:30:40,153
And bigger sizes
739
00:30:40,155 --> 00:30:40,921
And then you get the
740
00:30:41,423 --> 00:30:42,906
Sort of backlash against that
where some parts of the world
741
00:30:42,908 --> 00:30:45,976
Start to have soda taxes
and start to try to limit
742
00:30:45,978 --> 00:30:48,045
The size that you can
that you can buy.
743
00:30:48,047 --> 00:30:50,914
But because it's essentially
just water with bits
744
00:30:50,916 --> 00:30:51,748
Added to it,
745
00:30:52,184 --> 00:30:54,451
It doesn't cost very much to
sell it in enormous quantities.
746
00:30:55,187 --> 00:30:58,705
The rivalry between coke
and pepsi was really kind of
747
00:30:58,707 --> 00:30:59,640
In the trenches.
748
00:30:59,642 --> 00:30:59,940
I mean,
749
00:31:00,743 --> 00:31:02,576
They would go into supermarkets
and they would try
750
00:31:02,578 --> 00:31:04,912
And put their displays
in front of their rivals,
751
00:31:04,914 --> 00:31:06,847
Displays,
you know, on the ground.
752
00:31:06,849 --> 00:31:09,149
It was very insistent
as a vending machine
753
00:31:09,151 --> 00:31:11,118
That I'm going
to put one across the road.
754
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,887
So they were going for
with each other.
755
00:31:14,189 --> 00:31:18,308
But it was also a marketing
thing that benefited them both.
756
00:31:18,544 --> 00:31:20,544
The excitement
about the cola war
757
00:31:20,846 --> 00:31:23,513
Basically increased
sales of soda all around.
758
00:31:23,749 --> 00:31:25,315
So while they were fighting for
759
00:31:25,317 --> 00:31:27,351
Basically
a sliver of market share,
760
00:31:27,419 --> 00:31:29,486
It was growing the whole soda
market.
761
00:31:29,688 --> 00:31:32,372
And pepsi was always good
at promotion. In fact, it.
762
00:31:32,374 --> 00:31:34,675
Was the first drink
behind the iron curtain,
763
00:31:34,677 --> 00:31:36,443
Whether with an american label
on it.
764
00:31:36,445 --> 00:31:39,513
During the height of the rivalry
between pepsi cola
765
00:31:39,515 --> 00:31:40,280
And coca cola,
766
00:31:40,282 --> 00:31:41,615
Pepsi tended to do better
767
00:31:41,617 --> 00:31:44,618
In places that didn't want to
align themselves with america.
768
00:31:44,853 --> 00:31:47,754
So it would do better every day
behind the iron
769
00:31:47,756 --> 00:31:50,774
Curtain in the soviet bloc
and that sort of thing.
770
00:31:50,776 --> 00:31:52,109
So there was a sort of
771
00:31:52,111 --> 00:31:55,879
Geopolitical angle to which cola
you preferred and liking coca
772
00:31:55,881 --> 00:31:58,448
Cola sort of meant
that you supported america.
773
00:31:58,450 --> 00:31:59,683
Pepsi wanted to romania.
774
00:31:59,685 --> 00:32:02,319
And guess so the ambassador
for pepsi was worldwide.
775
00:32:03,088 --> 00:32:05,172
Who was oh, you can imagine
776
00:32:06,809 --> 00:32:08,642
Mr. Nixon in the nixon.
777
00:32:08,644 --> 00:32:11,211
You were the
ambassador were indeed I was.
778
00:32:12,247 --> 00:32:15,882
Cheering code for the cola
became very political.
779
00:32:15,951 --> 00:32:20,153
So what you have with richard
nixon when he was vice
780
00:32:20,155 --> 00:32:23,874
President,
he went over to moscow in 1959
781
00:32:23,876 --> 00:32:28,045
To american exhibition
and showed the soviet union
782
00:32:28,047 --> 00:32:32,015
What america had, and he invited
coca cola to come coke
783
00:32:32,051 --> 00:32:34,318
And said, no way,
we're not coming over to russia.
784
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,019
They hate us over that.
785
00:32:36,021 --> 00:32:39,172
So they invited pepsi instead.
786
00:32:39,174 --> 00:32:42,342
And that began a relationship
between richard nixon and pepsi
787
00:32:42,344 --> 00:32:43,710
That lasted four years.
788
00:32:43,712 --> 00:32:46,747
So nixon becomes
president in 68.
789
00:32:47,383 --> 00:32:48,515
First, me
790
00:32:48,584 --> 00:32:51,318
And when the coca cola machines
in the white house income
791
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:52,986
Pepsi vending machines
792
00:32:52,988 --> 00:32:56,573
And the nixon government helps
pepsi become the first american
793
00:32:56,575 --> 00:32:59,876
Consumer products sold in
the soviet union, richard nixon.
794
00:32:59,878 --> 00:33:03,213
But his vice president goes
to the soviet union and meets
795
00:33:03,315 --> 00:33:04,281
Nikita khrushchev,
796
00:33:04,350 --> 00:33:06,683
And they all photograph drinking
pepsi together.
797
00:33:06,752 --> 00:33:09,286
And this is a great coup
for pepsi cola
798
00:33:09,288 --> 00:33:11,338
That they're drinking
pepsi and not coke.
799
00:33:11,540 --> 00:33:15,342
But also it's seen as an example
of sort of american culture.
800
00:33:15,344 --> 00:33:18,712
It's seen as a coup by america
as well, that they've got the
801
00:33:18,714 --> 00:33:20,113
The head of the soviet union
802
00:33:20,115 --> 00:33:22,716
Drinking this very sort of
quintessentially american drink.
803
00:33:23,352 --> 00:33:24,518
So while
804
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,153
The nixon presidency was going
805
00:33:26,155 --> 00:33:28,905
On, coco was like, well,
we need our own president.
806
00:33:28,907 --> 00:33:31,141
So they teamed up with this
georgia
807
00:33:31,143 --> 00:33:33,343
Peanut
farmer called jimmy carter,
808
00:33:33,345 --> 00:33:36,380
And they give him access
to the coca cola jets and their
809
00:33:36,515 --> 00:33:38,115
Team helps in this image.
810
00:33:38,117 --> 00:33:40,550
And he's just a down, down home
811
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,454
Peanut farmer and basically
helps him get elected.
812
00:33:44,456 --> 00:33:45,739
And then jimmy carter
813
00:33:45,741 --> 00:33:48,775
Repays that by helping coca-cola
get into china.
814
00:33:49,078 --> 00:33:53,747
So so that kind of good 20 year
period, the code of war was
815
00:33:53,749 --> 00:33:56,950
Was reflected and he was kind of
getting into the white house.
816
00:33:56,952 --> 00:33:58,685
So the great cold war rivalries
817
00:33:58,687 --> 00:34:01,371
Between the united states,
china and russia were reflected
818
00:34:01,373 --> 00:34:03,974
In the great cola rivalries
between coke and pepsi.
819
00:34:04,543 --> 00:34:07,044
It's a sign of how powerful
american culture was
820
00:34:07,046 --> 00:34:09,946
And is that the two biggest
soft drinks on earth
821
00:34:10,582 --> 00:34:12,883
Are coca-cola from atlanta,
georgia,
822
00:34:12,885 --> 00:34:15,886
And pepsi cola
from newburn, north carolina.
823
00:34:16,488 --> 00:34:18,805
And yet all of this
geopolitical maneuvering raises
824
00:34:18,807 --> 00:34:20,257
The question,
which one is better?
825
00:34:21,343 --> 00:34:22,209
Well, people have been
826
00:34:22,211 --> 00:34:25,112
Taste testing
and arguing this forever.
827
00:34:25,481 --> 00:34:26,246
Okay, ready?
828
00:34:26,248 --> 00:34:27,881
One, two, three. Again
829
00:34:28,717 --> 00:34:31,785
All right, let's cola
first, coca-cola.
830
00:34:32,121 --> 00:34:34,871
I'm going to do the bottle.
831
00:34:35,741 --> 00:34:44,831
Now, patsy, patsy, patsy.
832
00:34:44,833 --> 00:34:45,649
With coke.
833
00:34:45,717 --> 00:34:47,884
Then that
I cannot discern a difference.
834
00:34:47,886 --> 00:34:49,086
Do you think pepsi and coke
835
00:34:49,088 --> 00:34:51,738
Ever merge as companies
and they just makes it
836
00:34:52,241 --> 00:34:53,974
That'd be like russia
and the united states
837
00:34:53,976 --> 00:34:54,775
Deciding to throw
838
00:34:54,843 --> 00:34:56,843
All all in together
and cut borders
839
00:34:56,845 --> 00:34:58,612
And just kind of move in to bed
together.
840
00:34:58,614 --> 00:35:01,081
I probably yeah, you're
right about now.
841
00:35:01,250 --> 00:35:03,016
These are businesses, after all.
842
00:35:03,018 --> 00:35:05,685
And as the cold war politics
gave way to the feelgood
843
00:35:05,721 --> 00:35:07,554
Hippie era,
so did the marketing.
844
00:35:07,556 --> 00:35:09,606
Depending upon which brand
you preferred,
845
00:35:09,675 --> 00:35:12,109
You were either a member
of the new youth generation
846
00:35:12,111 --> 00:35:15,946
Or part of a world wide, groovy
movement singing on a hillside.
847
00:35:16,248 --> 00:35:18,014
Their biggest campaign
was really
848
00:35:18,016 --> 00:35:21,118
When they created
the international people
849
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,553
And that big commercial
where they were singing like
850
00:35:23,956 --> 00:35:27,541
This was a community event
to have coca-cola together.
851
00:35:27,643 --> 00:35:29,409
I like to teach the.
852
00:35:29,411 --> 00:35:34,181
World to sing, sing with me.
853
00:35:34,183 --> 00:35:35,515
All my life.
854
00:35:38,787 --> 00:35:42,639
With this company.
855
00:35:42,641 --> 00:35:44,207
And here
is what all of those groovy
856
00:35:44,209 --> 00:35:47,944
Hippies aren't singing about all
of the sugar in those drinks.
857
00:35:48,547 --> 00:35:51,681
That song should be called
I want to give the world type
858
00:35:51,683 --> 00:35:53,350
To diabetes.
859
00:35:53,352 --> 00:35:56,119
Original coca
cola was made with cane sugar
860
00:35:56,388 --> 00:35:59,906
And then it started to be made
with high fructose corn sirup.
861
00:36:00,108 --> 00:36:02,142
And then recently,
because they have been
862
00:36:02,144 --> 00:36:03,877
Clampdowns
and government saying, you know,
863
00:36:03,879 --> 00:36:05,412
People are drinking
too much sugary soda.
864
00:36:05,414 --> 00:36:08,048
So so they tax it
if it contains sugar in it.
865
00:36:08,050 --> 00:36:10,517
So there's been a real incentive
to find ways
866
00:36:10,519 --> 00:36:14,221
Of making it taste the same,
while including much less sugar
867
00:36:14,223 --> 00:36:16,406
And using other
artificial sweeteners instead.
868
00:36:16,642 --> 00:36:18,441
But that's really
whether the debate
869
00:36:18,443 --> 00:36:21,578
About the sorts of health
impacts of soda have ended up
870
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,580
That it wasn't a health drink,
871
00:36:23,582 --> 00:36:25,081
It was actually an anti health
drink,
872
00:36:25,083 --> 00:36:27,150
It was making people unhealthy
and obese.
873
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,853
What I will drink alone
874
00:36:30,556 --> 00:36:33,540
Is a bottle of the mexican coca
875
00:36:33,542 --> 00:36:36,343
Cola because of the sugar cane
opposed to the sirup.
876
00:36:36,712 --> 00:36:37,711
That's what I want.
877
00:36:37,713 --> 00:36:39,746
Well,
how would you like to compare
878
00:36:39,748 --> 00:36:41,047
Those two beverages right now?
879
00:36:41,049 --> 00:36:42,449
Because I have
880
00:36:42,451 --> 00:36:45,719
From another boosted truck,
this one south of the border
881
00:36:46,755 --> 00:36:48,705
And a can coke.
882
00:36:48,707 --> 00:36:51,241
One of the biggest differences
between cane sugar and high
883
00:36:51,243 --> 00:36:53,143
Fructose corn sirup is the price
884
00:36:53,145 --> 00:36:56,079
Cane sugar grows in steamy
climates and stocks.
885
00:36:56,381 --> 00:36:59,716
It's complicated to harvest,
but high fructose corn sirup
886
00:37:00,052 --> 00:37:03,220
Comes from corn, which grows
abundantly in the midwest
887
00:37:03,488 --> 00:37:06,239
And which is a lot cheaper
and easier to harvest.
888
00:37:06,441 --> 00:37:08,909
So as you might imagine, high
fructose corn
889
00:37:08,911 --> 00:37:11,978
Sirup has supplanted
cane sugar in most soft drinks.
890
00:37:12,214 --> 00:37:14,481
But experts like jim say
they can taste the difference.
891
00:37:14,483 --> 00:37:15,348
So let's see.
892
00:37:15,751 --> 00:37:18,551
I've got some cane sugar, coke
in a bottle and some corn sirup.
893
00:37:18,553 --> 00:37:19,619
Coke in a can.
894
00:37:19,621 --> 00:37:21,821
Let taste test begin.
895
00:37:21,823 --> 00:37:23,807
Okay, I'm going to clear
and I'm going to go.
896
00:37:24,810 --> 00:37:26,376
I'm planning on going.
897
00:37:26,645 --> 00:37:30,380
Hmm. I
don't think this is sweeter.
898
00:37:31,416 --> 00:37:32,549
I think this is sweeter.
899
00:37:32,551 --> 00:37:36,786
Oh, this is by far
really by far over this.
900
00:37:36,788 --> 00:37:39,973
I don't notice
a difference. Hmm.
901
00:37:40,475 --> 00:37:41,741
Oh, no.
902
00:37:41,810 --> 00:37:44,010
Cane sugar is where it's
just a little messy.
903
00:37:44,012 --> 00:37:46,980
It's one of those little.
904
00:37:46,982 --> 00:37:47,881
Okay,
905
00:37:49,518 --> 00:37:51,184
I got that.
906
00:37:51,186 --> 00:37:53,553
That game I know from childhood.
907
00:37:53,555 --> 00:37:54,871
I don't get beat on that one.
908
00:37:54,873 --> 00:37:57,874
I get wet, but I don't get beat.
909
00:37:57,876 --> 00:38:03,213
I'm going to show you how
canadians drink their coca cola.
910
00:38:03,215 --> 00:38:06,283
Yeah, baby.
911
00:38:06,285 --> 00:38:06,983
Oh, yeah.
912
00:38:07,085 --> 00:38:10,420
I'm loving a little rye
and coke.
913
00:38:10,789 --> 00:38:12,939
Oh, right, right, yeah.
914
00:38:12,941 --> 00:38:14,641
Rye and coke and a cigaret.
915
00:38:14,643 --> 00:38:17,010
You know, you'd do for,
like, down here. Your dog.
916
00:38:17,045 --> 00:38:20,914
A lot of classic canadian now,
917
00:38:20,916 --> 00:38:24,150
Lots of coca cola.
918
00:38:24,152 --> 00:38:27,153
So they put the bubbles in,
they took the cocaine out,
919
00:38:27,322 --> 00:38:30,173
They took the caffeine down,
they put some rye in.
920
00:38:31,009 --> 00:38:33,743
But in the 1960s they started
to take the sugar out too,
921
00:38:33,745 --> 00:38:34,944
Because people began to realize
922
00:38:34,946 --> 00:38:37,113
That soda did something else
besides make you burp.
923
00:38:37,649 --> 00:38:39,049
It also made you fat.
924
00:38:39,051 --> 00:38:41,084
Diet soda
started in the fifties.
925
00:38:41,453 --> 00:38:44,921
Initially, they were aimed
to people who had diabetes,
926
00:38:44,923 --> 00:38:46,106
So they were kind of,
927
00:38:46,108 --> 00:38:47,007
You know, pharmacy
928
00:38:47,209 --> 00:38:50,043
Kind of drinks for people
who wanted to avoid sugar.
929
00:38:50,412 --> 00:38:53,613
But they really started
taking off as the sixties
930
00:38:53,615 --> 00:38:56,716
Approached and diet culture
kind of really took hold.
931
00:38:57,252 --> 00:38:59,152
People started
becoming more interested
932
00:38:59,154 --> 00:39:00,253
In what they were drinking
933
00:39:00,255 --> 00:39:02,205
And how much sugar
they were drinking.
934
00:39:02,207 --> 00:39:06,109
And so we're requesting a pop
that didn't have as much sugar.
935
00:39:06,345 --> 00:39:09,913
You started getting brands
like tab and recent
936
00:39:09,948 --> 00:39:12,148
Coca cola did tab
rather than diet
937
00:39:12,150 --> 00:39:16,853
Coke was because it was worried
that if you made a diet coke
938
00:39:16,855 --> 00:39:18,738
That wouldn't taste
as good as the real thing.
939
00:39:18,740 --> 00:39:21,107
So it didn't want to sully its
main brand.
940
00:39:21,109 --> 00:39:23,710
So it may have instead.
941
00:39:23,712 --> 00:39:25,311
My friend
used to drink tons of tab.
942
00:39:25,313 --> 00:39:25,678
You look in
943
00:39:26,515 --> 00:39:28,615
His backseat on the floor tab
there would tab that well,
944
00:39:28,617 --> 00:39:32,619
That was kind of the first diet
soda coca cola product.
945
00:39:32,621 --> 00:39:35,238
Actually that tab though
had a real chemical.
946
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,041
Yeah, it was full of aspartame.
947
00:39:38,343 --> 00:39:39,142
How do you make a drink?
948
00:39:39,211 --> 00:39:41,111
Taste sweet
if you can't use sugar?
949
00:39:41,113 --> 00:39:43,613
Well, you go back to the place
where the story started.
950
00:39:43,615 --> 00:39:47,450
The lab saccharin was discovered
in a lab in 1897.
951
00:39:47,753 --> 00:39:51,388
Cyclamate was discovered in
1937, the same way by mistake.
952
00:39:51,573 --> 00:39:54,007
While all the scientists
were looking for something else.
953
00:39:54,209 --> 00:39:56,342
No one paid much attention then,
because no one
954
00:39:56,344 --> 00:39:58,344
Was worried about too much sugar
then.
955
00:39:58,346 --> 00:40:01,781
But by the 1950s and 1960s,
the search was on for a better
956
00:40:01,783 --> 00:40:04,484
Tasting sugar substitute
that was safe to drink.
957
00:40:04,619 --> 00:40:05,051
So right
958
00:40:05,887 --> 00:40:09,038
Now, coke zero has aspartame
and as a sole thing, potassium,
959
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:14,677
Which both sound
totally safe and delicious. Oh,
960
00:40:16,848 --> 00:40:18,848
It's hard to beat. That
961
00:40:19,184 --> 00:40:20,417
Is quite possible.
962
00:40:20,419 --> 00:40:21,484
So what is the difference?
963
00:40:21,486 --> 00:40:23,753
It still has product
caffeine in it.
964
00:40:24,156 --> 00:40:25,905
Just no sugar whatsoever.
965
00:40:25,907 --> 00:40:27,006
You've got your phosphorus.
966
00:40:27,075 --> 00:40:29,409
Plus it's got we are not going
to tell you what's in it.
967
00:40:30,445 --> 00:40:31,644
Let's try the diet coke.
968
00:40:31,646 --> 00:40:32,679
All right.
969
00:40:32,681 --> 00:40:35,782
I get your ears out.
You're really
970
00:40:35,851 --> 00:40:37,250
Is that that's beautiful.
971
00:40:37,252 --> 00:40:38,251
It's like three nuts.
972
00:40:38,253 --> 00:40:39,419
Okay, so we had that.
973
00:40:39,421 --> 00:40:42,038
It's I can still taste it
on the sweetness
974
00:40:42,307 --> 00:40:43,973
Even though there was no sugar
here.
975
00:40:43,975 --> 00:40:45,175
Diet coke,
976
00:40:46,244 --> 00:40:47,544
I still don't understand.
977
00:40:47,546 --> 00:40:51,214
What is the difference
between zero and diet coke?
978
00:40:51,283 --> 00:40:54,317
Once your caffeine content
that there is a say on the sign
979
00:40:54,686 --> 00:40:59,806
You're up price
this is 34 milligrams this 46.
980
00:40:59,808 --> 00:41:01,541
Let me see is there something
on the bottom.
981
00:41:01,543 --> 00:41:04,811
Ja ja, ja, ja, ja,
ja, ja is all in the bottle.
982
00:41:04,813 --> 00:41:07,514
Oh here it is on this side. Oh,
no butter right here.
983
00:41:07,649 --> 00:41:09,916
Makes it all the time.
As a drink.
984
00:41:09,918 --> 00:41:11,818
As a drink. There's a drink.
985
00:41:11,820 --> 00:41:14,587
You can buy sugar free, caffeine
free coca cola,
986
00:41:15,056 --> 00:41:17,740
Which is basically brown water
with chemicals and fizz,
987
00:41:18,610 --> 00:41:21,010
But it's still got the same
basic tastes.
988
00:41:21,012 --> 00:41:22,779
Something else, too.
989
00:41:22,781 --> 00:41:24,881
It's got memories
and associations
990
00:41:25,584 --> 00:41:28,084
And a lot of emotions
tied up in it.
991
00:41:28,086 --> 00:41:30,787
That's
how powerful marketing is. It's
992
00:41:33,875 --> 00:41:35,175
The one brand I cannot.
993
00:41:35,177 --> 00:41:38,411
Drink is the one that landed me
in jail at 14 years old
994
00:41:38,413 --> 00:41:40,647
For public intoxication
and last seen in new york.
995
00:41:40,949 --> 00:41:42,115
A soda pop?
996
00:41:42,117 --> 00:41:43,216
Yes. Which one?
997
00:41:43,218 --> 00:41:45,351
A soda pop named fanta.
998
00:41:45,353 --> 00:41:48,054
Are. So
999
00:41:48,056 --> 00:41:48,421
I was.
1000
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,440
Attending st
pius, the 10th minor
1001
00:41:50,442 --> 00:41:52,542
Preparatory seminary for boys.
Go ahead.
1002
00:41:53,144 --> 00:41:56,679
And we decided my classmates
and myself,
1003
00:41:56,681 --> 00:41:59,549
That we would want to go down
to the new york state
1004
00:41:59,784 --> 00:42:02,819
And have some fun
where you could drink at 18.
1005
00:42:03,121 --> 00:42:05,154
So we all got into a vauxhall
viva.
1006
00:42:05,674 --> 00:42:07,640
There were a very small english
compact car.
1007
00:42:07,642 --> 00:42:08,641
There were seven of us.
1008
00:42:08,643 --> 00:42:11,077
We crammed in there
and we drove down.
1009
00:42:11,079 --> 00:42:12,879
We went
and we bought a jug of prince
1010
00:42:12,881 --> 00:42:16,049
Igor vodka
and a big massive jug of fanta.
1011
00:42:16,318 --> 00:42:18,718
Ooh, sounds like the right mix.
Yeah.
1012
00:42:18,787 --> 00:42:21,087
And then we went into a field
that we saw
1013
00:42:21,089 --> 00:42:23,106
By the side of the road,
and we had cups there
1014
00:42:23,108 --> 00:42:25,375
And we mixed the two
and I'm there
1015
00:42:25,377 --> 00:42:27,577
Looking at my friends
and weaving, you know,
1016
00:42:27,612 --> 00:42:28,811
Rocking back and forth.
1017
00:42:28,813 --> 00:42:31,731
And I looked past my friends
and I see this figure coming
1018
00:42:32,083 --> 00:42:35,184
Across the adjacent field
towards the fence,
1019
00:42:35,186 --> 00:42:38,121
And he's holding a rock salt
shotgun.
1020
00:42:38,189 --> 00:42:39,772
Well, the farmer,
1021
00:42:39,774 --> 00:42:41,975
Yeah, he opened up on us
with this rock
1022
00:42:42,277 --> 00:42:44,377
Salt shotgun, you know,
aiming it over our heads
1023
00:42:44,379 --> 00:42:46,045
And then eventually
at our torsos.
1024
00:42:46,047 --> 00:42:47,847
We ran out of there,
1025
00:42:47,849 --> 00:42:51,084
Got in the car,
raced in the town, raced away.
1026
00:42:51,286 --> 00:42:53,319
Then we go in to the local diner
and we get in there.
1027
00:42:53,321 --> 00:42:55,321
We're sitting down
and still joking around
1028
00:42:55,323 --> 00:42:56,406
And we're being real loose.
1029
00:42:56,408 --> 00:43:01,544
And the woman takes our order,
you know,
1030
00:43:01,546 --> 00:43:03,780
And then she comes back
about 5 minutes later
1031
00:43:03,782 --> 00:43:06,182
And folds her arms and in walks
the chief of police.
1032
00:43:06,585 --> 00:43:09,285
And she said, you're all under
arrest for public intoxication
1033
00:43:10,021 --> 00:43:10,720
Off the jail.
1034
00:43:11,189 --> 00:43:12,872
We go on the scene in new york,
spent the night there.
1035
00:43:13,074 --> 00:43:14,474
Now, I was 14 at.
1036
00:43:14,476 --> 00:43:16,643
The time, and you're not allowed
to lock up a minor.
1037
00:43:16,645 --> 00:43:17,410
In new york state.
1038
00:43:17,812 --> 00:43:19,946
He was so afraid when my father
came down to bail me out
1039
00:43:19,948 --> 00:43:20,747
That we were going to sue
1040
00:43:20,982 --> 00:43:22,615
The state of new york
for locking up a minor.
1041
00:43:22,617 --> 00:43:23,716
And I said, relax, dad.
1042
00:43:23,718 --> 00:43:24,917
I told him I was 18.
1043
00:43:24,919 --> 00:43:25,718
I lied.
1044
00:43:26,187 --> 00:43:28,638
To this day, I cannot drink or
even look at a bottle of wine.
1045
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,807
Why don't try wines right now?
1046
00:43:30,809 --> 00:43:32,375
What do you have
a little bit here?
1047
00:43:32,377 --> 00:43:34,544
Try this one time.
1048
00:43:34,546 --> 00:43:40,717
Oh, maybe
1049
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,220
I can bust my fanta phobia here
today, though.
1050
00:43:44,222 --> 00:43:50,610
You're not going to be able
to throw up on us here.
1051
00:43:50,612 --> 00:43:53,413
You know, without
the vodka, it's not bad. And,
1052
00:43:54,382 --> 00:43:55,748
Yeah, without the jail stay.
1053
00:43:55,750 --> 00:43:56,949
It's not bad. Then.
1054
00:43:56,951 --> 00:43:59,018
Then all the excitement
is missing.
1055
00:43:59,020 --> 00:44:02,171
But the drama.
1056
00:44:02,173 --> 00:44:04,007
Now, the old soda fountain,
there were almost
1057
00:44:04,009 --> 00:44:06,109
Limitless flavors
you can mix and match
1058
00:44:06,111 --> 00:44:07,777
To get just the right taste.
1059
00:44:07,779 --> 00:44:08,878
But then coke and pepsi
1060
00:44:08,980 --> 00:44:11,514
Came along and big footed
their way into the marketplace.
1061
00:44:12,984 --> 00:44:14,784
Now it seems like
there are new flavors
1062
00:44:14,786 --> 00:44:18,237
And varieties and bottles
coming up all the time.
1063
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,273
It's almost as
if soda is going back to its.
1064
00:44:20,275 --> 00:44:21,207
Roots.
1065
00:44:21,242 --> 00:44:22,975
Without the lithium
or the cocaine.
1066
00:44:22,977 --> 00:44:24,143
Of course,
1067
00:44:24,846 --> 00:44:26,546
What we're going to do now
is go back to the.
1068
00:44:26,548 --> 00:44:30,049
Old fashioned way of drinking
soda.
1069
00:44:30,485 --> 00:44:33,453
Now, these are from the sahara
coal company and indiana.
1070
00:44:33,455 --> 00:44:35,154
They have an old fashioned
fountain there.
1071
00:44:35,156 --> 00:44:37,473
They supply us with our flavors
today. Wow.
1072
00:44:37,509 --> 00:44:38,675
Gentlemen, what's your pleasure?
1073
00:44:38,677 --> 00:44:41,377
I'm going to try jerry.
All right.
1074
00:44:42,213 --> 00:44:43,680
Sorry, jerry.
1075
00:44:43,682 --> 00:44:45,548
Let me get you some ice, sir.
1076
00:44:45,550 --> 00:44:47,283
I could drink around
that chocolate.
1077
00:44:47,285 --> 00:44:48,484
The jury is really.
1078
00:44:48,486 --> 00:44:50,086
That's very concentrated.
1079
00:44:50,088 --> 00:44:51,754
That's the thing.
1080
00:44:51,756 --> 00:44:54,474
The water is part of the element
also, so.
1081
00:44:54,509 --> 00:44:55,742
No, sorry about that.
1082
00:44:55,744 --> 00:44:56,442
All right.
1083
00:44:56,444 --> 00:44:57,110
Here we.
1084
00:44:57,112 --> 00:44:59,545
Okay, you wanted this, okay.
1085
00:44:59,547 --> 00:45:02,815
And then we have the blue light,
like the machine here.
1086
00:45:02,851 --> 00:45:03,416
Here we go.
1087
00:45:03,585 --> 00:45:05,885
And a nice, nice stopping that.
1088
00:45:05,887 --> 00:45:08,221
Oh, look at that. Oh,
I like that.
1089
00:45:08,223 --> 00:45:09,338
You don't need much soda
1090
00:45:09,340 --> 00:45:11,407
In all the serve
you put in while we go.
1091
00:45:11,710 --> 00:45:13,543
One for the landlord.
1092
00:45:13,545 --> 00:45:15,912
Danny, I just got a call
from the landlord.
1093
00:45:15,914 --> 00:45:17,447
Not happy with,
which has happened.
1094
00:45:17,449 --> 00:45:19,382
All right, here,
go back to here.
1095
00:45:19,384 --> 00:45:20,683
Here we go. Like this.
1096
00:45:20,685 --> 00:45:21,884
A little more like that. Sorry
1097
00:45:23,021 --> 00:45:25,221
If the users are nice.
1098
00:45:25,256 --> 00:45:28,074
I'll take that
environmentally friendly straw.
1099
00:45:28,143 --> 00:45:29,041
Nice.
1100
00:45:29,043 --> 00:45:32,678
How do you like my soda?
1101
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,981
This can't beat that. I like it.
1102
00:45:35,250 --> 00:45:37,717
There is something
missing here, danny.
1103
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,420
Yeah. Vodka blocker.
1104
00:45:40,455 --> 00:45:42,021
You nailed it, baby.
1105
00:45:42,023 --> 00:45:44,207
There's a certain nostalgia
to drinking soda
1106
00:45:44,209 --> 00:45:46,042
At an old time soda fountain.
1107
00:45:46,044 --> 00:45:48,778
But the global impact of drinks
like coke and pepsi comes
1108
00:45:48,780 --> 00:45:51,147
From how modern and uniform
they are.
1109
00:45:51,149 --> 00:45:53,349
These are crowd
pleasing products available
1110
00:45:53,351 --> 00:45:55,184
All over the world
and sold at a price
1111
00:45:55,186 --> 00:45:57,520
That pretty much
everyone can afford.
1112
00:45:57,522 --> 00:45:59,939
Maybe the artist andy warhol
put it best
1113
00:46:00,442 --> 00:46:02,942
He did a series of paintings
of coca-cola bottles
1114
00:46:03,244 --> 00:46:05,111
And he explained his feelings
about the drink.
1115
00:46:05,113 --> 00:46:08,414
This way you could be watching
tv and see coca cola.
1116
00:46:08,817 --> 00:46:10,483
You know,
the president drinks coke,
1117
00:46:10,485 --> 00:46:12,418
But elizabeth
taylor drinks coke.
1118
00:46:12,420 --> 00:46:14,454
And just think you can drink
a coke, too.
1119
00:46:14,889 --> 00:46:16,172
A coke is a coke.
1120
00:46:16,174 --> 00:46:18,574
No amount of money
can get you a better coke.
1121
00:46:18,576 --> 00:46:19,942
Warhol was right.
1122
00:46:19,944 --> 00:46:24,113
There's no special coke or rare
exotic pepsi or artisanal 7up.
1123
00:46:24,616 --> 00:46:26,349
And that's why the story of soda
1124
00:46:26,351 --> 00:46:28,785
And the story of america
are so intertwined.
1125
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,687
It's democracy in a can.
1126
00:46:31,689 --> 00:46:32,839
What a pleasure
1127
00:46:32,841 --> 00:46:36,676
Having you at my soda
fountain bar sitting right here.
1128
00:46:37,078 --> 00:46:38,945
Thank you very much.
1129
00:46:38,947 --> 00:46:40,179
And think of it
1130
00:46:40,181 --> 00:46:42,515
From a little bit of sirup
and some fuzzy water.
1131
00:46:42,750 --> 00:46:46,285
100 years later,
coca cola is the most recognized
1132
00:46:46,287 --> 00:46:47,653
Brand on earth.
1133
00:46:47,655 --> 00:46:50,106
If the british empire
gentlemen were built on tea,
1134
00:46:50,141 --> 00:46:52,708
Surely the american century
was built on coca cola.
1135
00:46:53,178 --> 00:46:54,310
God bless him.
1136
00:46:54,312 --> 00:47:00,249
The most generous nation
on earth is.
1137
00:47:00,251 --> 00:47:03,886
You've been such good sports.
1138
00:47:03,888 --> 00:47:05,087
I'm going to insult you
1139
00:47:06,875 --> 00:47:08,774
And you should act accordingly.
1140
00:47:08,776 --> 00:47:11,210
Now, I could have used the soda
gun behind the bar.
1141
00:47:11,212 --> 00:47:13,446
That's the modern version
of the soda fountain.
1142
00:47:13,448 --> 00:47:16,415
Or maybe even just opened
a bottle of club soda.
1143
00:47:16,417 --> 00:47:18,518
But I chose the old
fashioned siphon
1144
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,920
Because it's been
a comedy staple since forever.
1145
00:47:22,023 --> 00:47:22,605
You can't have
1146
00:47:23,074 --> 00:47:26,442
One of these on the screen
without having some fun.
1147
00:47:26,444 --> 00:47:29,478
I don't like illinois
and I don't like connecticut.
1148
00:47:30,281 --> 00:47:32,515
And I want you gentlemen
out of this bar.
1149
00:47:32,517 --> 00:47:36,886
Emily, I want you gone,
gone, gone, gone, gone.
1150
00:47:37,021 --> 00:47:38,421
Oh, two charlatans.
1151
00:47:38,423 --> 00:47:40,106
You're horrible.
1152
00:47:40,475 --> 00:47:41,807
It wasn't me.
1153
00:47:41,809 --> 00:47:42,875
It wasn't me.
1154
00:47:42,877 --> 00:47:46,078
It was my wasn't working either.
1155
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,647
You got a good shot at it.
1156
00:47:47,649 --> 00:48:18,911
I was doing a good.
90619
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