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it was in the mid 1920s a woman flashed
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across the consciousness of millions a
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startling erratic Comet successfully
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competing for headlines with bootleggers
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flagpole sitters the Scopes Monkey Trial
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also competing with the brilliant
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personalities of the sports world
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the glitter of Hollywood Valentino
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Chaplin Senate and his famous bathing
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beauties and many more she inspired the
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most impassioned belief the most acid
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skepticism legally she was Amy Semple
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McPherson but to the world
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she was Amy or sister Amy Amy was
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inspirational amy was unpredictable amy
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was news
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the Lord bless you god bless you for
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coming here in such strength tonight the
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ordeal that I and my poor mother are
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facing my beloved mother whose only
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crime has been to love and cherish her
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daughter the ordeal you must face
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tomorrow is nothing new
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far from it
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what we are enduring what each one of
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you is sharing with us is part of the
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unending struggle the age-old fight
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between the children of light and the
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I don't have to tell you that the enemy
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is powerful and unscrupulous and
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determined to destroy me no I know
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word has reached me that the district
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attorney said either she will have to go
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or we will have to go yes I know the
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district attorney means to do plenty to
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me but I am Not Afraid let the district
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attorney plant his false evidence let
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him parade his pack of professional
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liars let him look back over the 17
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years I have given to preaching price if
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the mother and I are called to make it
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stand for the right and such standards
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must be made alone as our Lord made
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these on the cross mother and I are
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going on trial alone as our Lord did on
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the cross mother and I want to go
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through it alone as our Lord get on the
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cross mother and I want to go through it
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alone as our Lord did on the cross we
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not even in the building already she's
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winning the first round
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the people vs. McPherson this is a
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preliminary hearing for this court to
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determine whether or not there's
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sufficient evidence to try the case
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before a jury mr. kise
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Your Honor the people proposed to show
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that Aimee Semple McPherson along with
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her mother Minnie Kennedy conspired to
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commit acts injurious to the public
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morals to prevent and obstruct justice
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the people will share that Aimee Semple
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McPherson disappeared surreptitiously
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from Venice California on or about May
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18 1926 and reappeared on or about 2:00
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a.m. in the morning June 23rd 1926
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behind a slaughterhouse
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in Sonora Mexico the people will share
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that Aimee Semple McPherson went before
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a grand jury and knowing full well at
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the time that she had not been kidnapped
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falsely and fraudulently represented and
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pretended that she had been kidnapped
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and kept in an unconscious condition for
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more than 30 days the people will share
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that from May 19th on up to and
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including the 29th of May 1926 Aimee
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Semple McPherson resided and remained
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concealed with goggles and other devices
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and contrivances at carmel-by-the-sea
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from which place she departed with
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Kenneth Jean
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with the full knowledge acquiescence and
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consent of her mother Minnie Kennedy and
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finally we would point out to the court
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that is a direct result of the
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defendants faked disappearance two men
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Worf their lives in the Pacific Ocean we
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take this action against a person and so
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high in the religious esteem of many
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with regret but the people of this
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community and the righteous people of
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all religions deserve a right to a fair
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and open hearing of this situation which
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has become a nationwide worldwide
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as our first witness to call Emma shot
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place your left hand on the Bible please
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and raise your right you solemnly swear
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that the testimony you shall give shall
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be the truth the whole truth and nothing
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but the truth so help you God I do is it
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miss Schaefer Oh miss miss are you
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employed I'm secretary mrs. McPherson
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you often accompany your employer on
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errands outside the temple yes where did
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you accompany her on the afternoon of
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May 18th we went to Ocean Park Beach and
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while sister enjoyed the water
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I looked up Bible references for her did
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you leave mrs. McPherson alone at any
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time yes I went to the hotel to call
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mother Kennedy to tell her that sister
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was unable to keep a 4:30 appointment
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and also to bring back some orange juice
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so you reported mother Kennedy that mrs.
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Macpherson had drought no I didn't I
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never said that she drowned
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I was afraid that's what had happened
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but I never used that word I told mother
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Kennedy that sister have disappeared in
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the water when you told mother Kennedy
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that her daughter had disappeared into
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the water did she become a sterile that
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she go all to pieces all the pieces
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she's the one who holds things together
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she said I'll have to stand up and make
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the best of it and instead of asking for
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comfort she tried to comfort us brothers
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and sisters here in the temple and dear
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friends sitting at home beside your
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radios we share a heavy burden tonight
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as many of you may have heard this
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afternoon while swimming at Ocean Park
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Beach our beloved Amy my cherished
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daughter drowned
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so far all our desperate efforts to
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recover her body have failed I know the
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words that's echoing in every heart that
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word is quiet she was such a powerful
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swimmer I cannot believe she was drowned
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by any ordinary current or time I
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believe a blow on her head caused her
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death the sordid scenes
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heartbreaking for those pitiful young
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girls there weren't any threats but you
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the underworld never warns before it
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strikes it cannot be a coincidence that
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we lost a me on the very beach she was
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going to preach against why she was
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taken we do not know how she was taken
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we cannot be sure but we do know she is
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with Jesus pray for her
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miss Shepard would you say mother
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Kennedy accepted her daughter's death
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very readily she accepted it what else
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could she do everything was being done
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mother Kennedy had a search headquarters
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set up on the beach and we serve coffee
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and sandwiches round-the-clock
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a deep-sea diver was brought in and
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mother Kennedy was there listening to
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his progress step by step and yet many
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people felt from the first that there
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was reason to believe that mrs.
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McPherson was in fact along well there
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were rumors vicious stories made up to
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sell newspapers as if mother Kennedy
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hadn't enough to bear the reporters gave
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her no peace could you daughter have
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slipped out of the water and chosen to
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disappear
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she Kuna but she didn't she drowned have
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you actually a hope since she may be
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alive no mrs. Kennedy most people in
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your situation would cling to the leash
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thread of hope nobody's ever been in my
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situation before you say you have no
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hope but you've posted a $25,000 reward
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to stop the rumors calling the bluff of
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all the people who claim to know where
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Amy is that's a generous offer and yet
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we understand the temple is in financial
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trouble another vicious rumor with mrs.
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Macpherson heavily insured
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there's no one pennies worth of
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insurance on Amy's life if the true that
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you've heard from kidnapper to claim to
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be holding mrs. Macpherson that's true
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I've handed it over to the police
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is it true district attorney Kai's is
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considering to move into the case ask
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him how many people lost their lives
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searching for a body that was never
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there lost their lives wasn't there at
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least two deaths directly related to the
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search there was the diver from Catalina
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they said he died of a ruptured appendix
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and pneumonia induced by strenuous
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diving and icy waters and there was
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another young man with the unlikely name
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a Robert Brown
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I remember now he thought he saw
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sister's body and he tried to swim out
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and an hour later his body washed ashore
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can you identify this photograph please
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speak up who is this man
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Kenneth Ormiston
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people call for this photograph of
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Kenneth ormiston at Exhibit A
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where did you know Kenneth ormiston from
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he worked at the temple and what
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capacity he's a radio engineer he
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installed the station for City for mrs.
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Macpherson
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how long was mr. ormiston employed by
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mrs. Macpherson about a year maybe a
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little more
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did mr. Orman some work closely with
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mrs. Macpherson he did his job
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why did Kenneth ormiston lead the time
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he was dismissed by home my mother
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Kennedy she does all the hiring and
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firing why would mother Kennedy fire
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Kenneth Ormiston you'll have to ask her
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with Kenneth or mister in a married man
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yes but while working with mrs.
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Macpherson he was separated from his
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wife for part of the time yes hadn't
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Kenneth Emerson's wife threatened to
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divorce him a name mrs. McPherson is the
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other woman objection mr. kise is
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leading the witness
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sustained when did mr. almost at the
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temple in January of this year
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did you ever see Kenneth warminster at
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the temple after he was dismissed in May
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May shortly before mrs. Macpherson's
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disappearance a shovel in the temple is
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there a direct telephone line from the
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platform to the radio station upstairs
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there is did mrs. McPherson often use
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that phone to speak with Kenneth
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ormiston when the occasion demanded
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[Music]
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is that an order well you know I don't
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take orders very grace well this is one
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more exception I'm gonna make in your
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case me too
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well mrs. Kennedy it's been a long time
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not long enough
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visitors are not allowed in the studio
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obeying us how Kenny
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mr. ormiston used to work here I figured
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he was an exception there are no
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exceptions and if there were he wouldn't
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be one of them
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what are you doing here I came to see
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Charlie well see Charlie on his own time
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and in his own place I thought you had
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accepted the fact that the climate of
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Southern California didn't agree with
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you unfortunately it does seem hazardous
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when your employment here was terminated
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we added a get-well bonus to finance
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your search for a healthier spot blessed
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are the merciful for they shall obtain
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mercy
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don't you mock me we had an
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understanding
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abroad you're not living up to your part
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of it I mean I plan to move to the
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northwest Seattle when very soon
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tonight on June 18th
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one month after mrs. Macpherson's
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disappearance
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did the corner for Los Angeles County
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refuse your request for a death
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certificate he did but mother Kennedy
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decided to overrule the coroner and hold
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a gigantic memorial fundraising benefit
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anyway is that not so
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there were memorial services held four
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sister on Sunday June 20th and again in
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you shall see me because verily verily I
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say you shall weep and lament but the
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world shall rejoice yes you shall be
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sorrowful but your sorrow shall have
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turned into joy alas dear friends you
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and I can no longer see our beloved
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sister for she has gone to the Father
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for the wicked of the world it is reason
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to rejoice many of you still breathe we
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could not recover sister's body I never
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thought we would recover her body it was
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too precious to Jesus
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[Applause]
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her pulpit chatter stands empty it will
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never be occupied again in tribute to
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that knowing and undying presence I know
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all of you are going to be especially
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generous in your donations and pledges
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to our memorial collection tonight
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sister gave all to you her dear dear
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people I know that each one of you will
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always remember that
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[Music]
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how much money was collected from the
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memorial tributes
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I can't exactly recall wasn't it $40,000
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not that much as I remember it's about
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$4,500 in cash and about $30,000 in
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pledges
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The Sharper do you recognize the symbol
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of these tight pages
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yes this is the kidnap letter from The
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Avengers have you read this letter yes
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they claim to be holding sister and
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would release her if mother Kennedy pay
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them five hundred thousand dollars do
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you recognize this yes that's a lock of
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hair that came with that letter does
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this letter claim this to be a lock of
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mrs. Macpherson's hair yes did you think
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it was no I couldn't recognize what his
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sisters
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Misha in this letter
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aren't there answers to certain
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questions which mother Kennedy posed as
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a test of the authenticity of the
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kidnappers earlier claims yes they
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described a special hammock that mother
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Kennedy had on her farm in Canada and
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her little dog chip surely this lock of
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hair and those accurate answers must
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have convinced you and mother Kennedy
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that mrs. Macpherson was in fact alive
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no we weren't convinced when did you
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give this letter to mother Kennedy I
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believe it was Monday or Tuesday
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wasn't it Saturday no didn't mother
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Kennedy preacher element $35,000
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memorial service on Sunday after she had
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read this letter on Saturday no after
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she had seen this very convincing
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evidence that mrs. McPherson was in fact
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alive that letter wasn't read until
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Monday or Tuesday after the service
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you may step down
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so help you God I do mr. moral you're
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reported for the Santa Barbara press yes
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would you tell the court what happened
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to you on the afternoon of May 29th of
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this year well we got a tip to the Los
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Angeles Times that Kenneth ormiston was
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headed south from San Luis Obispo in a
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blue Chrysler and there was a woman with
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him Santa Barbara is halfway between San
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Luis Obispo and Los Angeles yeah that's
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right
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so late afternoon I drove a little
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distance north on the Coast Highway and
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parked at an intersection
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hello hello what's this all about
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we've been alerted to look out for Karan
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Singh this description policeman I'm
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working with the police yeah what's your
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name
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Mike Gibson mm-hmm and where are you
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from I'm a hardware a man from
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Sacramento who alerted you where are you
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going Los Angeles how do you do
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Oh Cara what's all this about well like
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you're driving a car here that fits the
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description of the machine that Kenneth
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Ormiston and mrs. Macpherson
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I suppose all driving you hate to be
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mistaken for those do yeah is this one
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here this lady you're right that's right
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now I want to know what authority you
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have to be questioning us oh well no
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more questions I'm sorry to have
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bothered you have a safe trip
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[Applause]
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[Music]
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the more is this the man that was
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driving the blue Chrysler coupe on the
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afternoon of May 29th yes you posit but
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the man who said he was frank gibson was
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really kenneth Ormiston i'm sure of it
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mr. Moore
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is that the woman that was with Kenneth
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ormiston that night I don't know mr.
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Moore you were within a few feet of that
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woman I'm sorry I just can't say for
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sure
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more questions that's more have you seen
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mr. McPherson prior to her disappearance
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yes I had covered a revival in Fresno
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four years ago so you would recognize
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her I think so I have here a copy of the
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Santa Barbara press May 30th of this
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year in which your story appears and
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that quote the woman did not resemble Ms
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McPherson except in general Bill
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did you write those words yes as a
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matter of fact when you returned to the
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office after interviewing that couple in
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the car did you say to your city editor
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the woman was not Miss McPherson mr.
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Moore witness will answer the question
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[Music]
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yes I said in my opinion it wasn't they
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need
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[Applause]
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today 100% in fact I'm going to forget
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what little I know about arithmetic and
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say it was to represent
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[Applause]
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of course we all knew that our dear
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sister Emma would stand firm and
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unyielding a rock of truth and sanity
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and love a shining example we have in
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sister Emma's quiet strength but that
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was only part of our triumph
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today after dear sister Emma mr. kise
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brought on the fearless newspaper
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reporter from Santa Barbara what
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happened well trained little parrot said
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the woman was not mrs. McPherson in my
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opinion
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[Music]
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[Applause]
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dear friends I wish you could have seen
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a Zack eyes face when he heard that his
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lower lip quivered and dropped to his
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chin
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and we all know
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mr. kise has good reason to week since
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our accounting supervisors have sworn
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out a complaint against him
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yes our County Supervisors have charged
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a dark-eyed with improper use
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[Applause]
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while he persecutes us in one courtroom
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he is
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[Applause]
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but I asked you to do the loving and
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Christian thing praying for the man who
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is trying to bring us down bring you
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down she neglected to mention that I
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indicted the supervisors first sort of a
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strong consistent day by day we can put
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it together in the courtroom not after
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tonight she can tear it apart of the
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temple do you have any idea how many
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people hurt her just now two hundred
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thousand two hundred doesn't happen
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most of them don't take her seriously
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we'll have our day tomorrow
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captain Klein you are now chief of
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detectives of the Los Angeles Police
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Department
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17 years served since 19 at night when
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mrs. McPherson disappeared on May 18th
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of this year did you take a personal
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interest in the case I did I put myself
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on 24-hour Duty out at the beach isn't
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that rather unusual captain this was a
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rather unusual case sir I believe mrs.
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Macpherson had drowned but I wanted to
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make sure every lead was traced through
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why were you convinced the lady of drown
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well sir
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what were the other possibilities
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suicide there was no known motive and
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besides why would a woman bother to
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change into a bathing suit to drown
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herself murder she was last seen she was
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in the water there was nobody near her a
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lapse of memory well if a woman in a
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green bathing suit came out of the water
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and wandered off how far do you think
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she'd get without being seen and
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kidnapping well sir how could the
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kidnappers spirit the lady out of the
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water past her secretary
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you dismissed the possibility of kidnap
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but want their ransom notes from alleged
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kidnappers then we followed a mouth rule
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but they were mostly from cranks seem
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like half the population of California
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wanted to be part of it
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sure you investigation was any attempt
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made to locate Kenneth ormiston or
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certainly did we had witnesses of Psalm
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at Angela's temple the week before mrs.
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McPherson disappeared then three days
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after her disappearance he was at the
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state motor vehicle department in San
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Francisco I was considering an all-out
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search from when nine days after she
554
00:45:49,510 --> 00:45:54,460
disappeared he strolled into search
555
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:56,760
headquarters without so much as a
556
00:45:54,460 --> 00:45:56,760
by-your-leave
557
00:46:02,159 --> 00:46:05,210
not accounting
558
00:46:10,860 --> 00:46:14,750
I understand you're looking for me
559
00:46:19,329 --> 00:46:28,390
why can this mother surprise Captain
560
00:46:24,739 --> 00:46:28,389
Bligh this is mr. Alveston
561
00:46:29,769 --> 00:46:35,389
captain - investigating sister's
562
00:46:32,809 --> 00:46:38,119
disappearance I'm glad you decided to
563
00:46:35,389 --> 00:46:39,650
come in - I read in a newspaper up in
564
00:46:38,119 --> 00:46:40,490
San Francisco what was wanted for
565
00:46:39,650 --> 00:46:43,280
questioning
566
00:46:40,489 --> 00:46:44,989
I caught the first train south ah that's
567
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:55,970
fine that's fine did I would you please
568
00:46:44,989 --> 00:46:57,919
take a seat no right on the beach mrs.
569
00:46:55,969 --> 00:47:01,480
Macpherson the day she disappeared
570
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:04,039
no of course I wasn't no of course not
571
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:06,409
and when was the last time that you seen
572
00:47:04,039 --> 00:47:09,589
her then at the temple a couple of days
573
00:47:06,409 --> 00:47:14,798
before I spoke with mother Kennedy then
574
00:47:09,588 --> 00:47:17,568
- and your relationship with mrs.
575
00:47:14,798 --> 00:47:20,630
McPherson I admired and respected her
576
00:47:17,568 --> 00:47:25,670
and the insinuations in the paper are an
577
00:47:20,630 --> 00:47:27,410
insult to her memory oh yes indeed you
578
00:47:25,670 --> 00:47:30,380
have been traveling around and there a
579
00:47:27,409 --> 00:47:31,759
lot of different names mr. well on my
580
00:47:30,380 --> 00:47:34,579
wife's print and make adult thing the
581
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:37,369
basis of a divorce suit in this state
582
00:47:34,579 --> 00:47:40,970
captain adulteries a statutory crime a
583
00:47:37,369 --> 00:47:46,789
man could end up in prison
584
00:47:40,969 --> 00:47:49,039
or a woman does your wife intend to
585
00:47:46,789 --> 00:47:51,800
charge mrs. Macpherson in this action
586
00:47:49,039 --> 00:47:53,300
oh no I don't think even Ruth that
587
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:56,900
desperate I'm the one she wants to
588
00:47:53,300 --> 00:47:59,060
punish however in the face of what
589
00:47:56,900 --> 00:48:01,639
mother Kennedy is going through my
590
00:47:59,059 --> 00:48:03,799
problems seem very unimportant the
591
00:48:01,639 --> 00:48:05,348
people who knew mrs. McPherson all they
592
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:08,030
have left as a memory of her and ice
593
00:48:05,349 --> 00:48:15,260
simply won't let the newspapers use me
594
00:48:08,030 --> 00:48:17,150
to disfigure and malign that memory so
595
00:48:15,260 --> 00:48:19,790
you found Kenneth or mr. very
596
00:48:17,150 --> 00:48:23,630
cooperative we cooperated beautifully
597
00:48:19,789 --> 00:48:26,059
for about an hour on May 27 he has not
598
00:48:23,630 --> 00:48:27,740
been seen since captain what was the
599
00:48:26,059 --> 00:48:30,849
next major development in your
600
00:48:27,739 --> 00:48:33,559
investigation oh it didn't do much
601
00:48:30,849 --> 00:48:37,130
except check out for any leads until the
602
00:48:33,559 --> 00:48:39,409
morning of June 23rd I was awakened by a
603
00:48:37,130 --> 00:48:41,990
phone call from the Chief of Police of
604
00:48:39,409 --> 00:48:43,909
Douglas Arizona I went immediately to
605
00:48:41,989 --> 00:48:48,219
the temple residence to report to mother
606
00:48:43,909 --> 00:48:53,299
Kennedy sure that dismisses McPherson
607
00:48:48,219 --> 00:48:56,088
where is Douglas Arizona well it's in
608
00:48:53,300 --> 00:48:58,480
the southeast corner of the state and
609
00:48:56,088 --> 00:49:00,949
the part of Mexico as a matter of fact
610
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:04,519
apparently the kidnappers have been
611
00:49:00,949 --> 00:49:08,469
holding her in Mexico I don't believe it
612
00:49:04,519 --> 00:49:12,130
well it is quite a ways
613
00:49:08,469 --> 00:49:15,089
our Beach she escaped from the
614
00:49:12,130 --> 00:49:18,220
kidnappers you ended up in a dead faint
615
00:49:15,090 --> 00:49:21,840
in some mexicans yard and a little
616
00:49:18,219 --> 00:49:26,730
nowhere place called that agua preacher
617
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:27,940
can I call her she is going to call you
618
00:49:26,730 --> 00:49:33,309
here
619
00:49:27,940 --> 00:49:35,380
7:30 it's an hour later over there there
620
00:49:33,309 --> 00:49:37,539
have been so many false alarms
621
00:49:35,380 --> 00:49:39,730
one from Coos Bay another one from
622
00:49:37,539 --> 00:49:41,469
Montreal yes but this time the
623
00:49:39,730 --> 00:49:43,900
authorities are quite sure that it's the
624
00:49:41,469 --> 00:49:46,239
real McCoy but I can't blame you for
625
00:49:43,900 --> 00:49:47,800
being skeptical I mean II did get your
626
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,889
hopes up and then they're dashed to the
627
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,890
ground
628
00:50:05,269 --> 00:50:08,079
hello
629
00:50:12,219 --> 00:50:14,848
Amy
630
00:50:17,789 --> 00:50:29,759
it is you and oh my god it is you are
631
00:50:26,380 --> 00:50:29,759
you all right yes
632
00:50:37,588 --> 00:50:51,099
don't talk I'm coming there and until I
633
00:50:44,980 --> 00:50:53,608
get there you just rest and relax don't
634
00:50:51,099 --> 00:50:53,609
talk
635
00:50:57,550 --> 00:51:07,510
could she have been taken without being
636
00:51:00,409 --> 00:51:07,509
seen Amy never listened to strangers
637
00:51:17,190 --> 00:51:27,559
are you all right mrs. what it's just
638
00:51:22,650 --> 00:51:33,480
that after accepting your death
639
00:51:27,559 --> 00:51:35,599
delivering her memorial service to hear
640
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,599
her voice
641
00:51:52,099 --> 00:51:57,230
what's this a ransom letter
642
00:52:03,259 --> 00:52:09,478
when did you receive this letter mrs.
643
00:52:05,728 --> 00:52:11,518
yesterday and why didn't you notify me
644
00:52:09,478 --> 00:52:18,748
then I was going to call you this
645
00:52:11,518 --> 00:52:22,768
morning did you accompany mrs. Kennedy
646
00:52:18,748 --> 00:52:25,168
to Douglas Arizona I did and a mr.
647
00:52:22,768 --> 00:52:28,338
Joseph Ryan a deputy from your own
648
00:52:25,168 --> 00:52:28,338
office went along with us
649
00:52:34,289 --> 00:52:52,630
mother sister are these gentlemen uh
650
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:54,909
course
651
00:52:52,630 --> 00:52:57,190
this is mr. Ryan of the district
652
00:52:54,909 --> 00:53:01,710
attorney's office and captain Klein
653
00:52:57,190 --> 00:53:04,599
chief of detectives from Los Angeles oh
654
00:53:01,710 --> 00:53:07,440
and uh this young man is a stenographer
655
00:53:04,599 --> 00:53:11,110
that we've borrowed from the US Cavalry
656
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:17,409
where you don't you sit over there hi
657
00:53:11,110 --> 00:53:19,420
captain Klein mrs. Macpherson yeah they
658
00:53:17,409 --> 00:53:24,009
burned me when they were trying to get
659
00:53:19,420 --> 00:53:26,170
information out of me mr. Ryan it's very
660
00:53:24,010 --> 00:53:28,200
good of you to come this way you're
661
00:53:26,170 --> 00:53:32,530
looking very well mrs. McPherson
662
00:53:28,199 --> 00:53:35,889
I'm feeling much stronger but I still
663
00:53:32,530 --> 00:53:38,380
tire so easily mr. Ryan you must not
664
00:53:35,889 --> 00:53:40,869
question sister now no mother
665
00:53:38,380 --> 00:53:43,660
these gentlemen have come 500 miles to
666
00:53:40,869 --> 00:53:45,279
see me being brought us to know go
667
00:53:43,659 --> 00:53:48,368
through with
668
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,580
I can't disappoint them won't you sit
669
00:53:48,369 --> 00:53:52,930
down
670
00:53:48,579 --> 00:53:55,000
alright thank you but may I ask you if I
671
00:53:52,929 --> 00:53:57,159
may go through my story from start to
672
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:59,108
finish without something Oh that'll be
673
00:53:57,159 --> 00:54:04,389
fine I have the time for all the
674
00:53:59,108 --> 00:54:05,980
questions and please I hope you'll be
675
00:54:04,389 --> 00:54:10,500
patient with me because I won't be able
676
00:54:05,980 --> 00:54:10,500
to give you exact times and dates
677
00:54:15,690 --> 00:54:21,389
because I was blindfolded and gagged
678
00:54:18,248 --> 00:54:21,389
kept locked
679
00:54:24,519 --> 00:54:27,780
it seems so long ago
680
00:54:28,358 --> 00:54:37,389
I was in the mortal mo but mr. Shepard
681
00:54:34,509 --> 00:54:40,480
my secretary was on the beach working on
682
00:54:37,389 --> 00:54:42,489
my sermon notes I swam out past the pier
683
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,469
and as I came back the tide carried me
684
00:54:42,489 --> 00:54:47,920
way beyond where Emma sat on the beach
685
00:54:44,469 --> 00:54:52,058
as I waded out I heard a voice say mrs.
686
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:58,358
Macpherson there was a woman I had never
687
00:54:52,059 --> 00:54:59,430
seen before she had black hair and brown
688
00:54:58,358 --> 00:55:03,429
eyes
689
00:54:59,429 --> 00:55:07,629
she was until she weighed in the
690
00:55:03,429 --> 00:55:12,190
vicinity of 180 pounds and she was
691
00:55:07,630 --> 00:55:14,670
plainly dressed now you tell me if I go
692
00:55:12,190 --> 00:55:14,670
too fast
693
00:55:17,590 --> 00:55:22,630
and there was a man with her he was
694
00:55:20,110 --> 00:55:27,220
clean-shaven heavyset with their clear
695
00:55:22,630 --> 00:55:30,940
complexion and brown hair mrs. McPherson
696
00:55:27,219 --> 00:55:34,079
woman said my baby's dying won't you
697
00:55:30,940 --> 00:55:36,019
please come and pray for my baby
698
00:55:34,079 --> 00:55:42,179
she said the baby was in an automobile
699
00:55:36,019 --> 00:55:45,869
parked by the bathhouse I asked them how
700
00:55:42,179 --> 00:55:49,259
they had managed to find me they told me
701
00:55:45,869 --> 00:55:51,630
they have gone to the temple and talked
702
00:55:49,260 --> 00:55:53,130
to you nothing and you were told them
703
00:55:51,630 --> 00:55:54,750
that I was at the beach and that she was
704
00:55:53,130 --> 00:55:56,930
sure I would be glad to pray for the
705
00:55:54,750 --> 00:55:56,929
baby
706
00:55:57,650 --> 00:56:08,250
that sounded so much like you that I had
707
00:56:03,179 --> 00:56:10,279
to believe the woman had a long black
708
00:56:08,250 --> 00:56:10,280
coat
709
00:56:10,349 --> 00:56:18,419
and she put it around my shoulders as we
710
00:56:14,728 --> 00:56:21,239
came close to the bathhouse she ran on
711
00:56:18,418 --> 00:56:23,548
ahead to a sedan that was parked by the
712
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:25,619
curb there was another man at the
713
00:56:23,548 --> 00:56:26,400
driver's wheel and the woman climbed in
714
00:56:25,619 --> 00:56:28,559
the backseat
715
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:30,179
hobbled far into the corner with a
716
00:56:28,559 --> 00:56:34,559
bundle in her laps I thought it was the
717
00:56:30,179 --> 00:56:36,798
baby I stepped my foot onto the running
718
00:56:34,559 --> 00:56:36,798
board
719
00:56:37,449 --> 00:56:42,969
came from behind me and pushed me
720
00:56:40,119 --> 00:56:43,690
headlong into the into the backseat of
721
00:56:42,969 --> 00:56:49,799
the car
722
00:56:43,690 --> 00:56:52,809
there was a blanket thrown over me and
723
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:56,680
something pressed to my face
724
00:56:52,809 --> 00:57:02,400
I smell sister are you sure you should
725
00:56:56,679 --> 00:57:02,399
try this yes yes I'm sure
726
00:57:05,500 --> 00:57:12,519
when I came to the woman was standing
727
00:57:07,969 --> 00:57:18,578
over me I was lying on an old iron bed
728
00:57:12,519 --> 00:57:24,889
vomiting severely it seemed to be done
729
00:57:18,579 --> 00:57:27,289
terrible one window almost brought it up
730
00:57:24,889 --> 00:57:30,980
to the top the light came from a
731
00:57:27,289 --> 00:57:35,930
kerosene lamp I could make out a table a
732
00:57:30,980 --> 00:57:40,400
chair a dress you had no idea where you
733
00:57:35,929 --> 00:57:42,308
work later I heard them speak of
734
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:45,579
Calexico
735
00:57:42,309 --> 00:57:50,510
when the woman saw that I was awake she
736
00:57:45,579 --> 00:57:54,200
called Steve and the man who had pushed
737
00:57:50,510 --> 00:57:57,160
me into the car came in he told me that
738
00:57:54,199 --> 00:57:57,159
I was being held for ransom
739
00:57:58,909 --> 00:58:08,269
they wanted me to write a letter and I
740
00:58:03,469 --> 00:58:14,838
said they were asking $500,000 in ransom
741
00:58:08,269 --> 00:58:17,409
I have $100,000 I told them it just
742
00:58:14,838 --> 00:58:17,409
couldn't be raised
743
00:58:18,818 --> 00:58:25,349
you've got a million Steve soon then we
744
00:58:22,568 --> 00:58:25,349
began to question
745
00:58:26,309 --> 00:58:31,900
they asked me about a hammock in Canada
746
00:58:29,199 --> 00:58:34,779
I told them it was a wire one stretched
747
00:58:31,900 --> 00:58:40,389
between two apple trees they wanted me
748
00:58:34,780 --> 00:58:42,330
to describe our dog then they asked me
749
00:58:40,389 --> 00:58:45,799
to describe
750
00:58:42,329 --> 00:58:45,799
your dining room stove
751
00:58:48,159 --> 00:58:52,269
and then they asked for a description of
752
00:58:50,110 --> 00:58:54,900
Wallace I wouldn't give him those
753
00:58:52,269 --> 00:58:54,900
descriptions
754
00:58:56,619 --> 00:59:04,089
that's when they began to torture me one
755
00:59:01,269 --> 00:59:07,000
of them grabbed me and Steve took my
756
00:59:04,090 --> 00:59:10,870
head and burned it
757
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:15,480
the red cigar I told him to go ahead and
758
00:59:10,869 --> 00:59:15,480
burn it I never moved my head
759
00:59:16,588 --> 00:59:24,088
finally when they saw they couldn't
760
00:59:19,690 --> 00:59:27,309
frighten me they stopped finally Rose
761
00:59:24,088 --> 00:59:32,288
was the woman's name gave me an old
762
00:59:27,309 --> 00:59:34,990
dress to wear much too large one night I
763
00:59:32,289 --> 00:59:37,119
was blindfolded and taken outside they
764
00:59:34,989 --> 00:59:40,959
threw me into the back of an auto bound
765
00:59:37,119 --> 00:59:42,519
and gagged and we began to drive he put
766
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:46,588
a blanket over me so I couldn't see we
767
00:59:42,519 --> 00:59:46,588
were going I heard another machine
768
00:59:48,858 --> 00:59:57,170
finally the auto stopped they took me to
769
00:59:53,119 --> 01:00:00,469
an old adobe Shack dirty with one poor
770
00:59:57,170 --> 01:00:01,190
room they put down soldiers cars for
771
01:00:00,469 --> 01:00:05,719
survival
772
01:00:01,190 --> 01:00:07,700
Rosie slept on the cot next to mine two
773
01:00:05,719 --> 01:00:11,088
days later Steve came back and demanded
774
01:00:07,699 --> 01:00:12,828
again did I write a letter to you when I
775
01:00:11,088 --> 01:00:15,558
refused they cut off two locks of hair
776
01:00:12,829 --> 01:00:18,499
from my head if that doesn't convince
777
01:00:15,559 --> 01:00:21,339
her I'll cut off your finger and will
778
01:00:18,498 --> 01:00:21,338
send back to her
779
01:00:23,730 --> 01:00:31,539
the next Tuesday was the first time that
780
01:00:27,818 --> 01:00:34,539
I was alone it was when Rosie went in
781
01:00:31,539 --> 01:00:36,159
for supplies I begged her not to not to
782
01:00:34,539 --> 01:00:40,420
gab me again and she promised that she
783
01:00:36,159 --> 01:00:45,670
wouldn't she bound my wrists with a flat
784
01:00:40,420 --> 01:00:47,780
strap and she put me on the card she
785
01:00:45,670 --> 01:00:51,670
left
786
01:00:47,780 --> 01:00:51,670
as I lay on the cops
787
01:00:52,170 --> 01:01:00,659
I saw in the corner of the room a tin
788
01:00:57,539 --> 01:01:03,119
can with a jagged edge it was the kind
789
01:01:00,659 --> 01:01:06,869
we used to put maple syrup in in Canada
790
01:01:03,119 --> 01:01:09,719
I managed to get off the cart and crawl
791
01:01:06,869 --> 01:01:12,839
over to where the can was and by working
792
01:01:09,719 --> 01:01:15,719
and pulling the stripes against the
793
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:20,789
jagged edge of the can I managed to pull
794
01:01:15,719 --> 01:01:22,689
myself free and bring the straps I was
795
01:01:20,789 --> 01:01:27,369
feeling
796
01:01:22,690 --> 01:01:29,559
I prayed for help and it came I managed
797
01:01:27,369 --> 01:01:31,420
to go to the window I fell from the
798
01:01:29,559 --> 01:01:32,289
outside it wasn't much of a drop and
799
01:01:31,420 --> 01:01:35,619
then I started running
800
01:01:32,289 --> 01:01:38,769
I ran ran from the position of the Sun I
801
01:01:35,619 --> 01:01:41,099
would say it was about 11 o'clock in the
802
01:01:38,769 --> 01:01:45,190
morning it was hot I stumbled on and on
803
01:01:41,099 --> 01:01:50,079
and I felt many many times night
804
01:01:45,190 --> 01:01:54,070
descended on me but I was afraid to
805
01:01:50,079 --> 01:01:56,829
sleep many times I dropped from sheer
806
01:01:54,070 --> 01:02:02,590
exhaustion blisters came on my feet and
807
01:01:56,829 --> 01:02:07,690
the pain is terrible after a long long
808
01:02:02,590 --> 01:02:09,100
while I came to a little shack with a
809
01:02:07,690 --> 01:02:12,740
tin roof
810
01:02:09,099 --> 01:02:14,940
and I went to the door and I called
811
01:02:12,739 --> 01:02:18,299
it was empty
812
01:02:14,940 --> 01:02:22,309
I still put on it on until finally I saw
813
01:02:18,300 --> 01:02:22,310
a glow in the sky
814
01:02:23,019 --> 01:02:26,340
it looked like heaven
815
01:02:27,829 --> 01:02:33,940
a village at last
816
01:02:30,250 --> 01:02:35,500
I went closer I saw a shadow and then as
817
01:02:33,940 --> 01:02:40,320
I came even nearer so that it was a
818
01:02:35,500 --> 01:02:40,320
building a slaughterhouse
819
01:02:40,579 --> 01:02:49,449
a man came out attracted by the barking
820
01:02:43,940 --> 01:02:51,110
of his dogs he was dressed in his BVDs I
821
01:02:49,449 --> 01:02:53,329
asked him for help
822
01:02:51,110 --> 01:02:55,630
he didn't seem to understand so I went
823
01:02:53,329 --> 01:02:59,079
on I stumbled on and on until finally
824
01:02:55,630 --> 01:03:02,380
finally I saw a house with a light I
825
01:02:59,079 --> 01:03:02,380
called out
826
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:19,500
those kind Mexican people notified the
827
01:03:16,110 --> 01:03:23,150
authorities and they brought me back
828
01:03:19,500 --> 01:03:23,150
over the border
829
01:03:24,869 --> 01:03:27,469
Hey
830
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:40,869
that's an incredible story mrs.
831
01:03:38,269 --> 01:03:40,869
McPherson
832
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:51,860
thank God it's over now there's just a
833
01:03:47,210 --> 01:03:59,449
few questions detectives and review
834
01:03:51,860 --> 01:04:01,370
horses this is my first
835
01:03:59,449 --> 01:04:03,489
there have been persistent rumors about
836
01:04:01,369 --> 01:04:05,630
your relationship with Kenneth ormiston
837
01:04:03,489 --> 01:04:08,739
witnesses claimed that they saw you with
838
01:04:05,630 --> 01:04:11,119
him in Salinas and San Luis Obispo
839
01:04:08,739 --> 01:04:12,889
riding with him in a blue Chrysler coupe
840
01:04:11,119 --> 01:04:14,779
near Santa Barbara now all this
841
01:04:12,889 --> 01:04:19,129
supposedly during the time you were
842
01:04:14,780 --> 01:04:23,090
missing mr. Ryan says I was bound hand
843
01:04:19,130 --> 01:04:25,519
and foot in a Mexican desert I obviously
844
01:04:23,090 --> 01:04:27,740
wasn't joyriding with mr. ormiston in
845
01:04:25,519 --> 01:04:28,519
Santa Barbara or anywhere else mr.
846
01:04:27,739 --> 01:04:31,789
McPherson
847
01:04:28,519 --> 01:04:34,250
the fact is Kenneth ormiston does own a
848
01:04:31,789 --> 01:04:36,619
blue Chrysler coupe in fact he purchased
849
01:04:34,250 --> 01:04:39,650
it with a money order in Seattle signed
850
01:04:36,619 --> 01:04:41,119
by a James Wallace now the only James
851
01:04:39,650 --> 01:04:43,970
Wallace we could turn up was your
852
01:04:41,119 --> 01:04:49,159
half-brother who has been dead for 15
853
01:04:43,969 --> 01:04:51,739
years you're treating me like a criminal
854
01:04:49,159 --> 01:04:53,719
instead of the victim please mrs.
855
01:04:51,739 --> 01:04:59,089
Macpherson we're only doing what we have
856
01:04:53,719 --> 01:05:01,669
to what what was my crime I tried to
857
01:04:59,090 --> 01:05:03,680
help a woman who said her baby was dying
858
01:05:01,670 --> 01:05:13,400
gentlemen I'll have to ask you to leave
859
01:05:03,679 --> 01:05:16,159
no I didn't intend to upset you I'm not
860
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:19,099
myself you hit mr. Ryan
861
01:05:16,159 --> 01:05:21,109
I promised the local police that I would
862
01:05:19,099 --> 01:05:25,639
go with them to try to locate the shack
863
01:05:21,110 --> 01:05:30,759
this afternoon I really believe rest
864
01:05:25,639 --> 01:05:30,759
may we talk later thank you
865
01:05:33,269 --> 01:05:42,420
yes you may go I will look after sister
866
01:05:38,929 --> 01:05:46,829
mother if you don't mind I really would
867
01:05:42,420 --> 01:05:53,340
like to rest it's a joy seeing you but
868
01:05:46,829 --> 01:05:58,460
also a strain very well I'll check into
869
01:05:53,340 --> 01:05:58,460
the hotel then I'll be back
870
01:06:13,900 --> 01:06:20,028
the most experienced trackers in the
871
01:06:17,059 --> 01:06:24,140
southwest fine-tooth comb the entire
872
01:06:20,028 --> 01:06:26,509
area nor door be shocked with a wooden
873
01:06:24,139 --> 01:06:29,778
floor could be felled did you accompany
874
01:06:26,509 --> 01:06:33,230
mrs. Macpherson on her own personal
875
01:06:29,778 --> 01:06:36,739
search they did on three separate
876
01:06:33,230 --> 01:06:39,009
occasions she could not lead you to it
877
01:06:36,739 --> 01:06:42,439
she didn't see him to recognize anything
878
01:06:39,009 --> 01:06:45,259
well she was real confident and
879
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:46,880
high-spirited at first but when I took
880
01:06:45,259 --> 01:06:50,449
her in mother Kennedy back to their
881
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:54,849
hotel that last time it was obvious to
882
01:06:50,449 --> 01:06:54,848
me mrs. Macpherson was very discouraged
883
01:07:11,309 --> 01:07:19,239
Amy don't start at me mother I want the
884
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:26,220
truth you've heard it so far I haven't
885
01:07:19,239 --> 01:07:26,219
heard one word I believe where were you
886
01:07:32,099 --> 01:07:40,799
oh you're not walking out on me without
887
01:07:37,650 --> 01:07:43,860
an explanation you owe me that much
888
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:45,060
after what I've been through after what
889
01:07:43,860 --> 01:07:46,920
you've been through
890
01:07:45,059 --> 01:07:49,380
disappearing like that and leaving me to
891
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:54,320
face the music I've been through hell
892
01:07:49,380 --> 01:07:54,320
all these past five weeks did your fault
893
01:07:55,099 --> 01:08:02,069
if you think you can stroll back into my
894
01:07:58,829 --> 01:08:07,920
life as though nothing else happened
895
01:08:02,070 --> 01:08:13,440
think again I want the whole truth and I
896
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:15,450
want it right now right let's call it
897
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:17,670
newspaper people - oh you have done
898
01:08:15,449 --> 01:08:26,489
enough damage there already I warned you
899
01:08:17,670 --> 01:08:29,940
not to talk to anyone but you Amy how
900
01:08:26,489 --> 01:08:33,269
can I protect you if I don't know I'll
901
01:08:29,939 --> 01:08:38,549
protect myself by making up more of
902
01:08:33,270 --> 01:08:43,320
these fairy tales Oh wake up who do you
903
01:08:38,550 --> 01:08:45,060
think you're fooling certainly not me
904
01:08:43,319 --> 01:08:48,869
you're half of those reporters down
905
01:08:45,060 --> 01:08:52,410
there I think most people will believe
906
01:08:48,869 --> 01:08:56,358
me as most people always have those who
907
01:08:52,409 --> 01:09:02,180
don't I'll just have to get along with
908
01:08:56,359 --> 01:09:08,670
don't threaten me Missy no threat mother
909
01:09:02,180 --> 01:09:11,970
believe or get out that's a choice but
910
01:09:08,670 --> 01:09:13,710
if I am to defend you to defend me all
911
01:09:11,970 --> 01:09:16,588
you have to remember is that from this
912
01:09:13,710 --> 01:09:19,939
moment on everything you do or say is
913
01:09:16,588 --> 01:09:19,939
based on the simple fact
914
01:09:24,529 --> 01:09:30,230
mother I don't want to lose you
915
01:09:27,109 --> 01:09:31,609
I need all the help I can get but I
916
01:09:30,229 --> 01:09:36,669
can't have you with me if you're
917
01:09:31,609 --> 01:09:36,670
doubting me questioning weakening me
918
01:09:45,210 --> 01:09:53,520
all right
919
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:59,960
you know I won't abandon did you tell me
920
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:59,960
I have to believe then I have to believe
921
01:10:00,260 --> 01:10:08,489
but the reporters won't be so easily
922
01:10:04,199 --> 01:10:11,340
managed they smell a big story aren't
923
01:10:08,489 --> 01:10:13,769
giving them a big story they smell a
924
01:10:11,340 --> 01:10:17,279
bigger one didn't you see them talking
925
01:10:13,770 --> 01:10:19,980
to the Mexicans the man who owned most
926
01:10:17,279 --> 01:10:24,029
of the land that you claim to it walked
927
01:10:19,979 --> 01:10:28,159
over way well don't you think he would
928
01:10:24,029 --> 01:10:30,269
know this Shack and at the hospital
929
01:10:28,159 --> 01:10:34,670
questioning the nurses why weren't you
930
01:10:30,270 --> 01:10:39,800
not or more exhausted dehydrated
931
01:10:34,670 --> 01:10:39,800
sunburned they seem to believe me
932
01:10:42,719 --> 01:10:51,340
see they're setting you up Amy to pull
933
01:10:49,238 --> 01:10:56,519
you down let them try
934
01:10:51,340 --> 01:10:56,520
let them my people will believe me
935
01:11:06,300 --> 01:11:36,748
[Applause]
936
01:11:37,100 --> 01:11:44,679
[Music]
937
01:11:46,979 --> 01:11:51,169
[Applause]
938
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:55,480
[Music]
939
01:11:51,170 --> 01:11:55,659
[Applause]
940
01:11:55,479 --> 01:12:12,148
[Music]
941
01:11:55,659 --> 01:12:12,148
[Applause]
942
01:12:14,310 --> 01:12:17,419
[Applause]
943
01:12:21,090 --> 01:12:32,739
[Applause]
944
01:12:34,739 --> 01:12:42,789
this is what kept me believing this is
945
01:12:39,789 --> 01:12:45,159
what kept me from despair knowing this
946
01:12:42,789 --> 01:12:55,859
moment would come when we would be
947
01:12:45,159 --> 01:12:55,859
together again please everyone
948
01:13:00,158 --> 01:13:11,058
home home again
949
01:13:04,510 --> 01:13:14,659
the Lord has brought me home it's Santa
950
01:13:11,059 --> 01:13:20,029
for hours just looking into these gears
951
01:13:14,658 --> 01:13:24,078
from a million faces how many times in
952
01:13:20,029 --> 01:13:26,349
the 39 terrible days of my testing I
953
01:13:24,078 --> 01:13:30,198
thought I would never be here again
954
01:13:26,349 --> 01:13:37,369
never see my beloved brothers and
955
01:13:30,198 --> 01:13:43,219
sisters again like Daniel we will still
956
01:13:37,368 --> 01:13:46,308
be betrayed by false witnesses Daniel
957
01:13:43,219 --> 01:13:53,359
was saved from the lion's den but not
958
01:13:46,309 --> 01:13:55,840
from the lying tongue brothers and
959
01:13:53,359 --> 01:13:55,839
sisters
960
01:13:57,469 --> 01:14:06,198
thoughtless brothers and sisters my
961
01:14:01,430 --> 01:14:34,940
kidnapping and the vicious scandals that
962
01:14:06,198 --> 01:14:40,099
circulated while I was away from your
963
01:14:34,939 --> 01:14:42,169
separate away the wolves rushed in with
964
01:14:40,100 --> 01:14:45,579
more lies to frighten and scatter the
965
01:14:42,170 --> 01:14:51,350
flock with the Sheep we're not
966
01:14:45,579 --> 01:14:54,649
scandalized your courage your faith your
967
01:14:51,350 --> 01:14:57,130
love have delivered your sister from the
968
01:14:54,649 --> 01:14:57,129
Lions
969
01:15:10,539 --> 01:15:13,640
[Music]
970
01:15:26,630 --> 01:15:29,729
[Applause]
971
01:15:32,079 --> 01:15:43,350
[Music]
972
01:15:40,310 --> 01:15:45,900
mr. right when you first heard the
973
01:15:43,350 --> 01:15:48,720
defendant tell her story of her kidnap
974
01:15:45,899 --> 01:15:51,779
and escape what was your reaction I
975
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:55,369
didn't believe it she didn't convince
976
01:15:51,779 --> 01:15:57,979
you she had been kidnapped she did not
977
01:15:55,369 --> 01:16:01,229
mrs. Macpherson had not been kidnapped
978
01:15:57,979 --> 01:16:03,269
where did she go on May 18th the day she
979
01:16:01,229 --> 01:16:05,789
disappeared from Ocean Park Beach
980
01:16:03,270 --> 01:16:09,330
she went to Carmel California with
981
01:16:05,789 --> 01:16:11,369
Kenneth G ormiston objection your honor
982
01:16:09,329 --> 01:16:13,680
the deputy district attorney is
983
01:16:11,369 --> 01:16:17,399
presenting his personal fantasy as fact
984
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:24,780
mr. Gilbert we will document mr. Ryan
985
01:16:17,399 --> 01:16:27,989
statements overruled mr. Ryan what first
986
01:16:24,779 --> 01:16:30,119
led you to believe that mrs. Macpherson
987
01:16:27,989 --> 01:16:33,119
might have spent part of the 5 weeks she
988
01:16:30,119 --> 01:16:35,430
was missing in Carmel California on July
989
01:16:33,119 --> 01:16:38,460
23rd the Monterey Chief of Police called
990
01:16:35,430 --> 01:16:39,900
our office he said he had convincing
991
01:16:38,460 --> 01:16:42,210
evidence that mrs. McPherson had spent
992
01:16:39,899 --> 01:16:44,069
10 days in Carmel I went up to
993
01:16:42,210 --> 01:16:44,460
investigate his story and what did you
994
01:16:44,069 --> 01:16:47,849
find
995
01:16:44,460 --> 01:16:49,859
I make 14 a man calling himself George
996
01:16:47,850 --> 01:16:52,140
McIntyre rented a bungalow on scenic
997
01:16:49,859 --> 01:16:53,880
drive he said that his wife was
998
01:16:52,140 --> 01:16:57,240
recuperating from her recent illness and
999
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:59,010
that she needed quiet and seclusion they
1000
01:16:57,239 --> 01:17:02,010
would move in late on the 18th of May or
1001
01:16:59,010 --> 01:17:03,420
early on the 19th I showed the real
1002
01:17:02,010 --> 01:17:05,699
estate agent and the owner of the
1003
01:17:03,420 --> 01:17:08,369
bungalow a photograph of Kenneth's
1004
01:17:05,699 --> 01:17:09,569
Ormiston they immediately identified it
1005
01:17:08,369 --> 01:17:11,809
as the man calling himself George
1006
01:17:09,569 --> 01:17:11,809
McIntyre
1007
01:17:16,850 --> 01:17:20,039
[Applause]
1008
01:17:18,170 --> 01:17:24,029
[Music]
1009
01:17:20,039 --> 01:17:27,220
is this the house yes sir it is
1010
01:17:24,029 --> 01:17:29,050
they move in on May 18th the day mrs.
1011
01:17:27,220 --> 01:17:31,420
Macpherson disappeared from Ocean Park
1012
01:17:29,050 --> 01:17:34,300
Beach actually was 4:00 a.m. the morning
1013
01:17:31,420 --> 01:17:36,250
of May 19th sir how long did the
1014
01:17:34,300 --> 01:17:40,750
MacIntyre stay at the house on scenic
1015
01:17:36,250 --> 01:17:42,579
drive ten days from the 19th of May to
1016
01:17:40,750 --> 01:17:45,939
the 29th of May yes sir
1017
01:17:42,579 --> 01:17:48,909
the 29th of May was the day that Kenneth
1018
01:17:45,939 --> 01:17:51,629
Lauriston and the mysterious woman were
1019
01:17:48,909 --> 01:17:54,970
seen fleeing south through Santa Barbara
1020
01:17:51,630 --> 01:17:57,310
apart from eyewitnesses was there any
1021
01:17:54,970 --> 01:17:59,949
other evidence that you found that might
1022
01:17:57,310 --> 01:18:03,070
have convinced you that mrs. MacIntyre
1023
01:17:59,949 --> 01:18:05,050
was mrs. McPherson yes sir it was a
1024
01:18:03,069 --> 01:18:09,159
small notepad hanging by the back door
1025
01:18:05,050 --> 01:18:11,409
how much mrs. McPherson mrs. MacIntyre
1026
01:18:09,159 --> 01:18:14,109
left her daily orders for groceries to
1027
01:18:11,409 --> 01:18:16,689
be delivered in the grass nearby I found
1028
01:18:14,109 --> 01:18:19,329
two of those crumpled grocery lists did
1029
01:18:16,689 --> 01:18:22,029
you compare the handwriting on those
1030
01:18:19,329 --> 01:18:24,519
grocery lists with mrs. McPherson yes
1031
01:18:22,029 --> 01:18:27,279
sir I did and subsequently experts held
1032
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:30,550
them to be undeniably the same then why
1033
01:18:27,279 --> 01:18:33,039
are those grocery lists not introduced
1034
01:18:30,550 --> 01:18:34,659
as evidence here today well sir they
1035
01:18:33,039 --> 01:18:37,449
were presented along with other evidence
1036
01:18:34,659 --> 01:18:39,729
to the grand jury yes and as you know
1037
01:18:37,449 --> 01:18:43,019
sir mrs. Macpherson testified before the
1038
01:18:39,729 --> 01:18:43,019
grand jury some months ago
1039
01:18:44,670 --> 01:18:49,720
lately we've spent a lot of time
1040
01:18:46,630 --> 01:18:51,130
together mr. Ayad each time I've noticed
1041
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:54,820
that sounds almost word-for-word the
1042
01:18:51,130 --> 01:18:58,079
same as if it were in fact memorized the
1043
01:18:54,819 --> 01:18:58,079
truth doesn't Barry
1044
01:18:58,210 --> 01:19:02,020
when mother Kennedy rushed into your
1045
01:18:59,979 --> 01:19:04,299
arms in that hospital room there was a
1046
01:19:02,020 --> 01:19:06,340
quick exchange of whispers did that have
1047
01:19:04,300 --> 01:19:10,029
anything to do with the kidnapping yes
1048
01:19:06,340 --> 01:19:13,210
sir I'll tell you exactly what mother
1049
01:19:10,029 --> 01:19:15,009
said the same question I guess any
1050
01:19:13,210 --> 01:19:21,989
mother would ask her daughter at such a
1051
01:19:15,010 --> 01:19:28,360
moment mother said my dear did they
1052
01:19:21,989 --> 01:19:30,929
molest you in any way and I said no
1053
01:19:28,359 --> 01:19:30,929
thank God
1054
01:19:31,140 --> 01:19:34,670
no matter they didn't
1055
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:46,380
mrs. Macpherson mrs.
1056
01:19:47,118 --> 01:19:52,738
what was the relationship between you
1057
01:19:50,189 --> 01:19:56,340
and your mother just prior to your
1058
01:19:52,738 --> 01:20:00,808
disappearance the same as they always
1059
01:19:56,340 --> 01:20:03,269
were deepest love and affection did you
1060
01:20:00,809 --> 01:20:07,019
and she see eye-to-eye on the subject of
1061
01:20:03,269 --> 01:20:09,409
Kenneth or muslim' yes sir we did Thank
1062
01:20:07,019 --> 01:20:11,998
You mr. Carson
1063
01:20:09,408 --> 01:20:17,429
may I be permitted to speak directly to
1064
01:20:11,998 --> 01:20:20,420
the grand jury for just a moment yes
1065
01:20:17,429 --> 01:20:20,420
ma'am
1066
01:20:27,198 --> 01:20:33,799
My dear mother gave me to God before I
1067
01:20:30,079 --> 01:20:37,460
was born my very earliest training was
1068
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:38,840
in the Bible would you believe that when
1069
01:20:37,460 --> 01:20:43,210
I was 5 years old
1070
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:47,869
I lined up chairs and preached to me I
1071
01:20:43,210 --> 01:20:50,409
was converted at 17 and I fell in love
1072
01:20:47,869 --> 01:20:54,219
with the evangelist who converted me I
1073
01:20:50,409 --> 01:20:57,260
married him and sailed with him to China
1074
01:20:54,219 --> 01:20:59,929
never expecting to return to my beloved
1075
01:20:57,260 --> 01:21:06,320
country again but willing to give my
1076
01:20:59,929 --> 01:21:10,940
life for Jesus I buried my precious
1077
01:21:06,319 --> 01:21:13,909
husband in that faraway land and I came
1078
01:21:10,939 --> 01:21:17,750
back home with my little baby in my arms
1079
01:21:13,909 --> 01:21:23,019
she was born just one month after we
1080
01:21:17,750 --> 01:21:25,488
lost her daddy as soon as I was able I
1081
01:21:23,020 --> 01:21:32,150
began preaching again
1082
01:21:25,488 --> 01:21:35,809
poor people simple people I saved a few
1083
01:21:32,149 --> 01:21:38,509
dollars from the first collection and I
1084
01:21:35,810 --> 01:21:42,310
bought a little tent it was full of
1085
01:21:38,510 --> 01:21:45,210
holes but it was mine
1086
01:21:42,310 --> 01:21:45,210
oh my
1087
01:21:45,449 --> 01:21:51,699
people began to hear that I had a gift a
1088
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:58,060
gift of faith
1089
01:21:51,699 --> 01:22:00,340
and they came and I shared it it wasn't
1090
01:21:58,060 --> 01:22:06,070
long before I was preaching to as many
1091
01:22:00,340 --> 01:22:09,760
as 16,000 people in one day now when
1092
01:22:06,069 --> 01:22:11,859
honest dedicated people like you asked
1093
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:16,780
to investigate my story I'm not afraid
1094
01:22:11,859 --> 01:22:22,239
because my story is true but do you know
1095
01:22:16,779 --> 01:22:25,679
what does frighten me I'm afraid I'm
1096
01:22:22,239 --> 01:22:32,309
afraid that those were not my friends
1097
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:32,310
will seize the chance to destroy a dream
1098
01:22:32,948 --> 01:22:39,419
thing that started when I was 5 years
1099
01:22:34,868 --> 01:22:39,420
old he preached to those empty chairs
1100
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:49,600
if there's any doubt in your mind please
1101
01:22:49,769 --> 01:22:59,159
please call me talk with me let me try
1102
01:22:54,809 --> 01:23:01,350
to answer your questions and pray for
1103
01:22:59,158 --> 01:23:05,210
your sister
1104
01:23:01,350 --> 01:23:05,210
as she was surely preview
1105
01:23:30,789 --> 01:23:37,698
after mrs. Macpherson left the grand
1106
01:23:33,979 --> 01:23:41,289
jury took a 10-minute recess during that
1107
01:23:37,698 --> 01:23:44,059
period I saw mrs. home one of the jurors
1108
01:23:41,289 --> 01:23:47,060
examining the evidence including of
1109
01:23:44,060 --> 01:23:49,670
course the groceries lips then she
1110
01:23:47,060 --> 01:23:52,060
excused herself and she went to the
1111
01:23:49,670 --> 01:23:52,060
ladies room
1112
01:23:55,658 --> 01:24:02,888
when I went over just to reassure myself
1113
01:23:58,500 --> 01:24:05,050
the grocery slips were gone did you make
1114
01:24:02,889 --> 01:24:08,920
an extensive search of the room in the
1115
01:24:05,050 --> 01:24:09,909
drawers yes sir I did but I knew it was
1116
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:11,770
a waste of time
1117
01:24:09,908 --> 01:24:13,420
those slips were on their way to El
1118
01:24:11,770 --> 01:24:16,020
Segundo the municipal sewage disposal
1119
01:24:13,420 --> 01:24:16,020
plan
1120
01:24:19,710 --> 01:24:26,350
mr. Rhyne how did you come to be on this
1121
01:24:24,250 --> 01:24:28,029
case I was assigned to the by the
1122
01:24:26,350 --> 01:24:31,050
district attorney's office mr. Gilbert
1123
01:24:28,029 --> 01:24:33,759
according to the usual procedure mm-hmm
1124
01:24:31,050 --> 01:24:37,869
strange coincidence that the chief
1125
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:39,400
investigator captain Klein just so
1126
01:24:37,869 --> 01:24:42,489
happens to be a father-in-law
1127
01:24:39,399 --> 01:24:44,679
father-in-law did not request my son mr.
1128
01:24:42,489 --> 01:24:47,679
Gilbert we never even discussed the case
1129
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:50,020
until the trip to Douglas Arizona didn't
1130
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:52,930
you brag the chill of going to Douglas
1131
01:24:50,020 --> 01:24:54,730
to break miss McPherson absolutely not I
1132
01:24:52,930 --> 01:24:56,470
went to Douglas with an open mind and
1133
01:24:54,729 --> 01:24:57,669
when did you shut it when I discovered
1134
01:24:56,470 --> 01:24:59,350
that Kenneth geo missed and was in
1135
01:24:57,670 --> 01:25:00,760
Carmel thank you that's all i examined
1136
01:24:59,350 --> 01:25:04,320
those grocery slips and I compared the
1137
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:04,320
handwriting when I returned from
1138
01:25:11,659 --> 01:25:16,369
the time has come for a showdown a
1139
01:25:13,939 --> 01:25:17,960
showdown not before officials and
1140
01:25:16,369 --> 01:25:21,590
officials in there but before the brave
1141
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:24,350
American public feel a chain of evidence
1142
01:25:21,590 --> 01:25:26,750
that will make this whole damnable
1143
01:25:24,350 --> 01:25:28,960
conspiracy clear to every man woman and
1144
01:25:26,750 --> 01:25:31,880
child in the world
1145
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:36,739
determined to assassinate the character
1146
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:40,279
of a defenseless woman district attorney
1147
01:25:36,739 --> 01:25:52,069
hey Doc I'm working through is too
1148
01:25:40,279 --> 01:25:54,619
unscrupulous and repeatedly his beliefs
1149
01:25:52,069 --> 01:25:56,210
that I have drown in him Douglas he
1150
01:25:54,619 --> 01:25:57,500
stated equally positive in his belief
1151
01:25:56,210 --> 01:26:04,909
that I had been kidnapped about what
1152
01:25:57,500 --> 01:26:07,970
could possibly be their motivation all
1153
01:26:04,909 --> 01:26:11,789
too simple both Herman crime and Joseph
1154
01:26:07,970 --> 01:26:16,820
Ryan are Catholics persecuting of
1155
01:26:11,789 --> 01:26:18,989
[Applause]
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01:26:16,819 --> 01:26:21,960
[Laughter]
1157
01:26:18,989 --> 01:26:26,050
[Applause]
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01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:29,050
mr. Benedict there is no doubt in your
1159
01:26:26,050 --> 01:26:33,270
mind that the man who rented your
1160
01:26:29,050 --> 01:26:35,650
bungalow in Carmel was Kenneth ormiston
1161
01:26:33,270 --> 01:26:38,220
no no doubt whatsoever
1162
01:26:35,649 --> 01:26:40,899
when did the McIntyre's take occupancy
1163
01:26:38,220 --> 01:26:45,369
was very early in the morning on may
1164
01:26:40,899 --> 01:26:47,409
19th May 19th the day after mrs.
1165
01:26:45,369 --> 01:26:50,550
McPherson disappeared from Ocean Park
1166
01:26:47,409 --> 01:26:55,349
Beach May 19th
1167
01:26:50,550 --> 01:26:58,420
mr. Benedict did you ever see the woman
1168
01:26:55,350 --> 01:27:01,360
only once the second or third day after
1169
01:26:58,420 --> 01:27:03,430
they moved in I was attending to some
1170
01:27:01,359 --> 01:27:13,509
roses and when I was working in the yard
1171
01:27:03,430 --> 01:27:15,310
McIntyre came out good morning hi don't
1172
01:27:13,510 --> 01:27:17,020
mean to bother you folks but I had to
1173
01:27:15,310 --> 01:27:19,150
get these roses in the ground right away
1174
01:27:17,020 --> 01:27:23,160
it's good to see you don't worry I'm not
1175
01:27:19,149 --> 01:27:23,159
gonna be one of those live-in landlords
1176
01:27:23,579 --> 01:27:29,389
how does your missus like the house oh
1177
01:27:25,930 --> 01:27:32,880
she just loved
1178
01:27:29,389 --> 01:27:34,739
dear come on out here and say hello to
1179
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:38,880
mr. Benedict he's working with these
1180
01:27:34,738 --> 01:27:43,558
rose bushes come on out here well
1181
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:46,770
welcome to Carmel mrs. MacIntyre y'all
1182
01:27:43,559 --> 01:27:49,590
been to the beach yet yeah she's not
1183
01:27:46,770 --> 01:27:51,179
feeling so good well a couple of weeks
1184
01:27:49,590 --> 01:27:53,989
of this good Carmel air and I'm sure
1185
01:27:51,179 --> 01:27:53,989
she'll be feeling a lot better
1186
01:28:01,238 --> 01:28:09,578
mr. Benedict was that woman in Carmel
1187
01:28:05,889 --> 01:28:09,578
mrs. McPherson
1188
01:28:13,329 --> 01:28:25,859
she was very similar but if this the
1189
01:28:19,779 --> 01:28:25,859
woman that you knew as mrs. MacIntire I
1190
01:28:27,180 --> 01:28:31,409
won't name mrs. McPherson
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01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:37,979
mr. Benedict are you sure yes I wouldn't
1192
01:28:36,779 --> 01:28:44,759
have been able to recognize my own
1193
01:28:37,979 --> 01:28:48,988
sister in that getup no further
1194
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:50,639
questions your witness Your Honor the
1195
01:28:48,988 --> 01:28:53,279
defense has no questions for mr.
1196
01:28:50,639 --> 01:28:56,010
Benedict at this time the witness is
1197
01:28:53,279 --> 01:28:58,399
excused the court will now adjourn for
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01:28:56,010 --> 01:28:58,400
lunch
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01:29:11,329 --> 01:29:14,500
[Music]
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01:29:18,659 --> 01:29:26,800
excuse me perhaps you're already aware
1201
01:29:24,220 --> 01:29:29,740
of this if not I've been obligated to
1202
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:33,760
inform you kena Forrest and has just
1203
01:29:29,739 --> 01:29:38,739
surrendered and voluntarily agreed to
1204
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:42,579
testify this afternoon Thank You mr.
1205
01:29:38,739 --> 01:29:44,050
kise after weeks and weeks of Lies and
1206
01:29:42,579 --> 01:29:48,329
evasions in this courtroom
1207
01:29:44,050 --> 01:29:48,329
perhaps we'll finally hear the truth
1208
01:29:51,260 --> 01:29:54,310
so we have much
1209
01:30:11,060 --> 01:30:14,169
[Music]
1210
01:30:22,689 --> 01:30:32,869
going on we've got to get a statement is
1211
01:30:31,399 --> 01:30:35,920
there anything I get for you keep the
1212
01:30:32,869 --> 01:30:35,920
reporters away
1213
01:30:45,319 --> 01:30:53,340
what more must to say did you send for
1214
01:30:50,460 --> 01:30:55,859
him boys he made a deal with the
1215
01:30:53,340 --> 01:30:58,038
district attorney after so many months
1216
01:30:55,859 --> 01:31:02,578
why should he decide you coming and
1217
01:30:58,038 --> 01:31:06,118
testify he must have made a deal maybe
1218
01:31:02,578 --> 01:31:08,038
he's tired of running maybe he's buying
1219
01:31:06,118 --> 01:31:17,399
some peace and quiet by telling the
1220
01:31:08,038 --> 01:31:22,349
truth what is the truth don't turn your
1221
01:31:17,399 --> 01:31:26,098
back on me once left of my life is very
1222
01:31:22,349 --> 01:31:28,949
important to me and I do not want to
1223
01:31:26,099 --> 01:31:31,288
spend any part of it in a place like
1224
01:31:28,948 --> 01:31:33,238
this where a mother I never let them
1225
01:31:31,288 --> 01:31:42,050
send you to prison I know what prison is
1226
01:31:33,238 --> 01:31:44,788
like what is that supposed to mean Amy I
1227
01:31:42,050 --> 01:31:55,800
insist you tell me if you were with
1228
01:31:44,788 --> 01:31:59,359
Austin why won't you tell me that isn't
1229
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:59,360
the temple that isn't my peoples
1230
01:32:02,969 --> 01:32:08,359
you've always had nipping deficit the
1231
01:32:04,770 --> 01:32:10,860
one worst thing I could ever do the one
1232
01:32:08,359 --> 01:32:15,029
unforgivable sin was to keep a secret
1233
01:32:10,859 --> 01:32:17,130
from you isn't that right mother mother
1234
01:32:15,029 --> 01:32:20,519
everybody's entitled to something little
1235
01:32:17,130 --> 01:32:22,050
something of their own something she
1236
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:24,600
doesn't have to share with anyone else
1237
01:32:22,050 --> 01:32:27,840
hasn't every person on earth the right
1238
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:32,329
to that much when you became a minister
1239
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:32,329
of the gospel you surrendered that right
1240
01:32:37,609 --> 01:32:42,729
I may have surrendered once when ohms
1241
01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:54,779
is you
1242
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:57,229
a day I was born your daughter since you
1243
01:32:54,779 --> 01:33:01,849
come back you're a different person
1244
01:32:57,229 --> 01:33:07,529
you always confided in me we've always
1245
01:33:01,850 --> 01:33:13,800
shared everything everything is too much
1246
01:33:07,529 --> 01:33:20,699
to ask we are in this together
1247
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:26,340
I have a right to know where are you
1248
01:33:20,699 --> 01:33:29,210
with everything and Sammy what are you
1249
01:33:26,340 --> 01:33:29,210
witnessing
1250
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:47,118
[Music]
1251
01:33:49,319 --> 01:33:53,929
the people call Kenneth honest
1252
01:34:33,510 --> 01:34:39,070
left hand on the Bible please and raise
1253
01:34:36,010 --> 01:34:40,600
your right do you solemnly swear that
1254
01:34:39,069 --> 01:34:42,189
the testimony you shall give shall be
1255
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:51,370
the truth the whole truth and nothing
1256
01:34:42,189 --> 01:34:52,919
but the truth so help you God I do state
1257
01:34:51,369 --> 01:34:59,109
your full name please
1258
01:34:52,920 --> 01:35:00,940
Kenneth G ormiston your occupation I'm a
1259
01:34:59,109 --> 01:35:03,699
radio engineer but at the moment I'm
1260
01:35:00,939 --> 01:35:06,250
unemployed did you at one time work for
1261
01:35:03,699 --> 01:35:08,170
Aimee Semple McPherson yes sir I
1262
01:35:06,250 --> 01:35:10,359
installed the station in the temple for
1263
01:35:08,170 --> 01:35:16,230
mrs. Macpherson when did you leave her
1264
01:35:10,359 --> 01:35:16,229
employ January for what reason
1265
01:35:17,029 --> 01:35:24,109
personal between you and mrs. Macpherson
1266
01:35:21,399 --> 01:35:28,038
my wife was impossibly jealous of the
1267
01:35:24,109 --> 01:35:31,488
lady and may 14th of this year did you
1268
01:35:28,038 --> 01:35:35,509
ran a cottage in Carmel California I did
1269
01:35:31,488 --> 01:35:39,319
under the name George McIntyre when did
1270
01:35:35,510 --> 01:35:41,780
you take occupancy early the morning of
1271
01:35:39,319 --> 01:35:46,238
May 19th
1272
01:35:41,779 --> 01:35:49,279
were you alone no sir
1273
01:35:46,238 --> 01:35:51,439
there was a lady with
1274
01:35:49,279 --> 01:35:54,349
a woman you introduced to the owner of
1275
01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:59,058
the cottage is mrs. MacIntire that's
1276
01:35:54,349 --> 01:36:01,849
correct that lady who shared the cottage
1277
01:35:59,059 --> 01:36:04,420
in Carmel with you for approximately ten
1278
01:36:01,849 --> 01:36:08,199
days late in May was she not in fact
1279
01:36:04,420 --> 01:36:08,199
Aimee Semple McPherson
1280
01:36:13,939 --> 01:36:17,799
no she was not
1281
01:36:25,618 --> 01:36:35,649
sir you are underneath I am aware of
1282
01:36:30,819 --> 01:36:39,579
that I want it on the record once and
1283
01:36:35,649 --> 01:36:42,250
for all that mrs. Macpherson was in no
1284
01:36:39,579 --> 01:36:45,630
way connected with the so-called love
1285
01:36:42,250 --> 01:36:45,630
nest in Carmel
1286
01:37:03,279 --> 01:37:06,659
no more questions at this time
1287
01:37:11,140 --> 01:37:18,100
the defense has no need to cross-examine
1288
01:37:14,420 --> 01:37:21,050
mr. Austin at this time your honor
1289
01:37:18,100 --> 01:37:27,860
the people would like to request a brief
1290
01:37:21,050 --> 01:37:30,310
recess very well ten minutes the witness
1291
01:37:27,859 --> 01:37:30,309
may step down
1292
01:37:59,770 --> 01:38:10,340
there are after scrupulous analysis of
1293
01:38:07,219 --> 01:38:13,399
the testimony presented in court here
1294
01:38:10,340 --> 01:38:20,719
today it is my carefully considered
1295
01:38:13,399 --> 01:38:22,369
opinion that this case should be that
1296
01:38:20,719 --> 01:38:24,579
this case can no longer be tried with
1297
01:38:22,369 --> 01:38:24,579
honor
1298
01:38:26,119 --> 01:38:33,220
nor with little hope of success they've
1299
01:38:30,109 --> 01:38:35,630
come to believe that mrs. Macpherson
1300
01:38:33,220 --> 01:38:40,180
will be tried in the only court of a
1301
01:38:35,630 --> 01:38:46,039
jurisdiction the court of public opinion
1302
01:38:40,180 --> 01:38:49,460
therefore the people request that all
1303
01:38:46,039 --> 01:38:57,279
charges be dropped against Kenneth
1304
01:38:49,460 --> 01:38:59,408
ormiston Minnie Kennedy and Aimee Semple
1305
01:38:57,279 --> 01:39:02,658
McPherson
1306
01:38:59,408 --> 01:39:05,388
our reaction then identical to where
1307
01:39:02,658 --> 01:39:06,368
isn't sometimes therefore your request
1308
01:39:05,389 --> 01:39:09,840
is granted
1309
01:39:06,368 --> 01:39:14,248
all charges dismissed
1310
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:14,248
[Applause]
1311
01:39:17,159 --> 01:39:22,498
[Applause]
1312
01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:36,560
[Applause]
1313
01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:42,020
[Music]
1314
01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:52,020
[Applause]
1315
01:39:42,020 --> 01:39:52,020
[Music]
1316
01:39:55,319 --> 01:40:01,148
[Music]
1317
01:40:03,439 --> 01:40:11,839
[Music]
1318
01:40:07,569 --> 01:40:15,009
[Applause]
1319
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:15,010
[Music]
1320
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:19,829
[Applause]
1321
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:32,789
[Music]
1322
01:40:43,149 --> 01:40:46,219
[Music]
1323
01:40:50,359 --> 01:40:55,368
[Music]
1324
01:40:52,310 --> 01:40:55,369
[Applause]
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