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[Zachary Quinto]
For thousands of years, powerful forces,
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both good and evil,
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have sought ways
to control the human brain.
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Ancient tales have described
bizarre rituals
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involving voodoo
and brainwashing,
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designed to enslave
the minds of thousands.
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Today, recent advances
in technology
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have made this fear
all too real.
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And no one knows this better
than Kansas native, James Walbert.
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In the year 2004,
I had become a victim of mind control.
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I had been drugged and implanted in my own home.
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I experienced trembling
and shaking, remote burning, jolts, shocks.
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The implants have been
inside of my body for 14 years.
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I know who targeted me,
and I know why.
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There's 100% possibility that
we are being recorded right now.
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[Quinto]
How is it possible for people like James
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to fall victim
to mind control?
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Are dark forces
enslaving people around the world?
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Can anyone's brain
be manipulated by evil?
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My search begins now.
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My Name is Zachary Quinto.
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As an actor,
I've played many supernatural characters
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that blurred the line
between science and fiction.
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I'm drawn to the unknown,
the otherworldly,
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and those experiences
so beyond belief,
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they call everything
into question.
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I'm exploring some of
the most enduring mysteries
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that continue to haunt mankind
in search of the truth...
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wherever it leads me.
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Since the dawn
of early civilizations,
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when rival cultures
waged bloody battles
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to advance
their different ideologies,
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many have dreamed
of controlling the minds of others,
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while preventing enemies
from controlling theirs.
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Ancient texts,
such as the 15th century Malleus Maleficarum,
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reveal our dark appetite
for torture,
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mysterious potions,
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and spells to enslave
another's mind.
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But these handbooks
are only the beginning.
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During the Cold War,
the Soviet Union
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spent billions of dollars
on its psychotronic program
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to control the minds
of its adversaries
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and create real-life
Manchurian Candidates--
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brainwashed
political assassins
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programmed to change
the course of history.
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These frightening historical
accounts make me wonder:
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is mind control possible,
and is it happening today?
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I've located a man
named James Walbert,
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who claims he was
surgically implanted by a business rival
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and placed under mind control
against his will.
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James is an entrepreneur
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and an inventor
of antibacterial plastic products.
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I woke up in my bed--Right.
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...with blood coming out
of my left ear, my jaw swollen,
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and my right shoulder
was affected as well.
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I had been drugged
and implanted in my own home.
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I started hearing, like,
super high-pitched static sounds.
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My body was being disrupted
from a distance.
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There was most certainly something there.
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I could feel it
on my nervous system.
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My arm would jump.
Or my leg would jump.
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Did you have
testing done at all
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to see what was
causing this stuff?
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I had an MRI done,
and they had found
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a foreign body in my left ear
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and in my neck.
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Oh, my God.
So, this is the actual--
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That is the actual capsule
in my right trapezia.
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So, like, here, basically.That's what they call
a "tracker chip."
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I was under a constant state of mind control.
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I'm staggered by this
on so many levels.
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First of all,
that someone would be so diabolical to do this.
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It sounds like something
out of a spy movie.
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So you were
the first person in the history of the United States
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to win a court case
that's based in
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a form of what's considered
electromagnetic terrorism, in a way, right?
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Yes, that is correct.
Yes.
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And how long
did it take you to build a case?
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It took me a year and a half to build a solid case.
Uh-huh.
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Hired two private investigators.
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They both researched every single thing I said.
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I presented all of my evidence,
and the FBI immediately identified suspects.
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Wow.
I took them to court and won.
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Now there's 21 laws against illegal implantation in the United States.
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Prior to that,
if you'd ever even mention an implant,
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you were paranoid,
you were delusional.
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[Quinto]
When you talk to someone like James,
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what seems farfetched
and unbelievable...
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then becomes
really understandable.
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Having these implants
in his body--
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it's a very real example
of "mind control."
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Now I understand
how something like that could actually happen.
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But James is not alone.
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The U.S. government
has been conducting
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mind control experiments
for decades.
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In 1953, the CIA launched
the MKUltra program
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in order to develop their own mind control methods.
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But because MKUltra
was top secret,
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the agency could use anyone
as test subjects.
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Experts,
such as John Greenwald, Jr.,
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an author who's been studying
the secret inner workings
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of the U.S. government
for over 20 years,
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used the Freedom
of Information Act
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to uncover the fact
that the CIA
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was targeting
innocent civilians.
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Back in 1953,
the general public had no idea
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that the CIA was doing these
really horrific experiments
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on prisoners
and mental health patients,
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literally grabbing people
off the streets
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and subjecting them
to experiments with LSD and hypnosis.
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They also started experimenting with physical torture,
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subjecting people
to the lack of sleep for days at a time
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to really experiment
with how far the human body would go until it snapped.
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They had instances where they
actually killed people.
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People died because
of their experiments.
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[Quinto]
To this day, the United States government
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has never fully disclosed
all aspects of MKUltra,
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but many speculate
the program rewrote the book
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on the use
of mind control in war.
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[Greenwald]
In the world of government research,
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if you do something
for 20 years,
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you know darn well
that they did something worthwhile and worth pursuing.
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[Quinto]
Could this still be happening today?
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If it is, how do you control
someone's mind?
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At a laboratory
called Backyard Brains...
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neuroscientist Greg Gage
is developing ways
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to override the brains
of other humans.
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When you're talking
about mind control,
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you're talking about
actually controlling something,
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and you're consciously
aware of it, right?That's right.
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Roll up your sleeve.
And I'm going to put some electrodes on your arm.
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There's a little bit of gel
inside of here,
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and that gel allows the ions
to flow through your skin, into the metal.
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[Quinto]
Greg's technology allows me
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to send my brain signals
to a machine--
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And so, if I
plug this into here--
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[Quinto]
...like this prosthetic hand, to remotely move objects.
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This is called
a "neural prosthetic."It's so crazy.
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You're controlling it
through your nervous system.
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This is a way that we can
tap into your brain
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to make a computer
do something.
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What would happen now if,
instead of controlling a robotic arm,
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nt your brain signal
into my body?
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Then your brain
will control not only your arm, but also my arm.
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I would like to see
how that works. [laughs]
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And I'll put
some electrodes on me.
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I'm gonna put one here,
and I'll put another one here.
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If I plug us together,
you will take away my free will.
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So when you're ready,
go ahead and move your hand.
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So, right now, you have
complete control over that. And I can try to fight it.
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But I can also turn up the game
so that I can't fight it anymore.
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What level is this?I'm at 3, and it goes up to 8.
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What happens if you turn it up?I'll turn it all the way up.
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Ah! Okay.
It just... [chuckles]
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But how amazing.Yeah.
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The electrical waves of my brain
were controlling the computer,
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ultimately,
which was stimulating the electrodes on his muscles
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that then led
to his arm moving.
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That's a pretty cool feeling.Actually,
it's a little bit painful.
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I'm gonna turn it back down.
[laughing]Don't hurt yourself, Greg.
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It was the most evident version
of control.
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So we're gonna switch it up now.
So, I'm gonna take the electrodes off you.
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And I will be in control
of your free will.
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You're gonna relax
your hand here.
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I'm gonna hook up
on the other side.
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And I'm gonna turn this on.
So, I have you on 2.
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I can just turn it up
a little bit more.
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Now, you can look away.
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[Quinto] Coming up... I'm in Michigan,
at a laboratory called Backyard Brains.
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My search to uncover whether
mind control is possible
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has led me
to neuroscientist Greg Gage.
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This is called
a "neural prosthetic."
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[Quinto]
With the help of a small computer,
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I seized control
of Greg's body.
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You want to see what it's like
to be out of control? All right.Yeah.
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Now it's my turn.
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I will be in control
of your free will.
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[Quinto]
My only fear is, what is it gonna do to me?
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And I'm going to turn this on.
So, you're going to feel a little bit tingly.
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I already feel something.Your hand is going
to naturally want to turn.
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All right.
So, that's-- that's the--
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Oh! [laughing]
So... [laughing]
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You don't know when I'm
going to do it, but I'm going to do it whenever I want.
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So, you have lost
your free will.
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[laughs]
Isn't that weird?
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It felt like these snaps.
Like pebbles being thrown against my brain.
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What if I try to resist?You can try to resist it.
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You're gonna notice that
this finger is gonna go first.
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[Quinto]
It makes me understand how technology exists
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to get into people's heads.
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Is there anything
about this work which has a dark side?
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I mean--One of the biggest fears
people have
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when they hear
about brain control is, uh--
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is the idea of someone
surreptitiously recording from your brain
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or being able to read
what you're doing.
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All of your thoughts and desires
are all held inside of here.
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If you can control something
with your mind,
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then someone might be able
to read from your stuff.
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You weren't controlling
your arm, right?
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My brain
was controlling your arm, and so that made--
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You lost your free will.
Could that happen surreptitiously?
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Could someone all of a sudden
command someone else
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to shoot somebody
or do something evil, right?
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For example,
the top neuroscientists in the world
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are implanting monkeys with
electrodes inside their brain--Wow.
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...and now humans as well.
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[Quinto]
That's the same thing James is talking about
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in terms of being targeted
and having these implants
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and chips in his body
that were interrupting
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his own motor function.
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That gets back to the point
of all the myth and mystery
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around brain function and how
it comprises a human being.
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But when you really
break it down,
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it's able to be manipulated
and interrupted as a result.
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Greg's technology is one way
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to manipulate the brain
of another human.
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But what if this capability
fell into the wrong hands?
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Recent reports have surfaced,
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describing how
other nations are creating cutting-edge devices
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that allow humans to control
the minds of others remotely,
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without their knowledge.
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In 2017,
reports began to surface
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that dozens
of American diplomats stationed in Cuba
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were experiencing
bizarre injuries, such as vertigo,
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hearing loss,
and brain damage consistent with a concussion.
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And in 2018,
similar reports emerged
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from a U.S. official
in China.
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All medically confirmed cases
have described some combination of symptoms
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beginning within minutes
to hours of their exposure of the event.
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[Quinto]
An investigation by the FBI in the Cuban incident
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revealed the diplomats
may have been the target of a sonic weapon
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capable of using sound waves
to inflict brain injuries.
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Do we know what they can do
to protect themselves from these sorts of injuries?
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Senator, I don't think
we can say categorically
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that we can guarantee
that they would be safe from this.
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[Quinto] Unexplained
incidents like these are on the rise around the world,
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and I want to hear
what it's like to be a victim of this strange phenomenon.
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So I've located a man
who survived a similar sonic attack
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while he was stationed
in Cuba back in 2014.
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It's nice to meet you. Good to meet you.
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when he experienced
something truly horrifying. [Quinto] Four years ago,
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As I understand it,
you were in Cuba in 2014? That's right.
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Within five minutes of laying down on the bed to go to sleep,
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a weird sensation in my feet and my hands
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began to gradually grow, from the tip of the fingers,
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down through my hands, forearms,
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through the calves, that really woke me up.
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I wasn't able to concentrate at that point.
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So, it went into my face, ears, back of my neck.
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Exact same story the next day.
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At that point, I kind of freaked out and beelined to the airport.
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To be clear,
you were staying in the same hotel
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where these diplomats
were experiencing similar symptoms that you had.
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That's right. I used the travel agent who recommended the hotel
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because the hotel had just come out of renovation.
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Do you feel,
from your experience,
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like this was something
that was targeted?
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I'm not a conspiracy theorist by nature, but you got a hotel
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full of people for four years now,
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from other countries, that have no issues.
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If you have a hotel
in which hundreds of people are staying every night,
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and over the course
of this time, 20-some people,
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all of whom are diplomats,
are experiencing these physical symptoms--
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I mean, there's nothing
accidental about that.
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[Allen] Some people think that if there was some sonic attack,
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they were still testing out whatever the technology was when I was there.
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I've never heard
anything like this.
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The idea that this could be
a whole new branch
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of mind control--
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You know, that's the darker side
of what we're talking about
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in the applications
of this kind of stuff.
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If sound is being weaponized
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to damage or hijack
the human mind, how does it work?
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There are sound waves
that vibrate at such extreme frequencies,
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humans can't hear them.
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Some believe these waves
are powerful enough
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to penetrate the skull
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and interrupt millions
of neuron connections inside the brain.
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Could something
as common as sound
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be the key to controlling
the human mind?
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To find out, I'm heading
to Arizona State University's
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Biological and Health Systems
Engineering Lab,
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where Dr. Jamie Tyler
is exploring
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how high-frequency sound waves
called "ultrasound"
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can be used
to manipulate the brain.
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The story that recently
came out of Cuba.
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Diplomats that were
working in Cuba--
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Right....were experiencing
unexplained physical symptoms,
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and it's been talked about
in terms of a sonar attack.
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There's lots of people around
the world that have their own theories about what happened.
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A lot of people say
that ultrasound cannot affect brain activity.
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That's wrong. We can't hear
the ultrasou frequencies.Mm-hmm.
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But what's really
dangerous about it,
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when you can't hear it, is
you don't know how loud it is.Right.
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[jet engine whooshes] And so,
it can be 140 decibels--
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so as loud as a jet engine--
but you cannot hear it.
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But the air pressure
is still 140 decibels.
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I know that there was
a kind of range of symptoms--
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Yeah....some of which were auditory.
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And headaches, which you can
produce with ultrasound.And headaches, yeah.
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So, as soon as I heard
about the story, to me,
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it was pretty obvious
that ultrasound was one of the candidates
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that you would suspect
at creating those types of problems,
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even if it was airborne.
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[Quinto]
But Dr. Tyler and his team have been researching ways
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ultrasound can actually
boost brain performance.
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[Dr. Tyler] We're going to
put you on a treadmill and see if we can make you fall.
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Really?
See if you can make me fall?Yeah. Yeah.
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It's a treadmill
that's designed to trick your body
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and brain circuits,
and get you to fall.Okay.
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I'll be put to the test
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to see how sound waves
can control my mind.
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We'll hook you up and get
your brain stimulated with some transcranial-focused ultrasound.
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[technicians chattering][device beeping]
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[Quinto]
Dr. Tyler and his team will give me
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a dose of ultrasound
at key areas of my brain--
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[Dr. Tyler]
That's the ultrasound now. It transmits through your skin.
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...which should affect
the neurons controlling balance and coordination.
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This is so crazy.Isn't it crazy?
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Dr. Tyler has been conducting
this type of research for over ten years.
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In the majority of cases,
when someone tries to walk the treadmill,
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they stumble and sometimes fall within seconds.
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However, with a boost
of ultrasound altering my mind,
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Dr. Tyler believes I should be
able to stay on the treadmill no matter what happens.
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[Dr. Tyler]
It's a quite advanced treadmill
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that allows us to do
motion tracking of your body,
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and allow you to interact
in a virtual environment.
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You're good to step up there.
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[Quinto]
My brain has never been zapped with ultrasound.
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And I've never been strapped
into a jerry-rigged treadmill before.
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[clicks]All right. Good.
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My goal is to
just walk normally?Just walk normally.
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Will my mind be sharpened
by the intense power of sound waves?
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[man]
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Go for it.
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[click]
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Make him go faster.
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Increasing the speed.Increase the pitch
and try to mess him up.
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Whoa.There you go.
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[Quinto]
What the hell?
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Aah![laughs]
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[yells]
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Recent reports indicate
governments around the world
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may be developing
top secret sonic weapons
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capable of controlling
the human mind using only sound.
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I want to understand
how sound waves can manipulate our brains,
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so Dr. Tyler
is putting me through a revolutionary experiment.
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Now what we're gonna do
is we're gonna try to stimulate your brain.
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[Quinto]
After giving me a powerful dose of ultrasound
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to the part of my brain
regulating balance,
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coordination,
and motor function--
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Make him go faster.Whoa. What the hell?
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...Dr. Tyler has placed me
on a virtual reality treadmill
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that makes most people
stumble and fall.
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Aah!
[yells]
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But he believes
ultrasound waves
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can help sharpen my mind,
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allowing me
to stay on my feet.
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That's it.
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[Quinto]
Dr. Tyler's data suggests I should have fallen
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when I navigated the course
on the treadmill.Okay.
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But I didn't fall.All right. Goooo
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He believes
the dose of ultrasound allowed my brain
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to maintain my balance
and coordination
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better than
it normally would.
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In a sense,
it is a way of interrupting
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someone's natural relationship
with their own brain.
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Yeah.Are there any potential
drawbacks or side effects
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that you've noticed
in your studies that are concerning?
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You know, there are
some ethical issues.
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Before we got to the point
where we were using ultrasound
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to modulate
human brain activity, we did a lot of safety studies.
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Ultrasound certainly
can be used in a negative way,
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and that is a little
concerning to me,
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'cause when people
are using sonic weapons,
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it kind of changes
the landscape.
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[Quinto]
I feel like it is a version of mind control,
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and I think it's
a very real example
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of how technology allows us
to get inside someone's head.
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If the incident involving
American diplomats in Cuba
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was some form
of mind control attack using a sonic weapon,
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I want to know
who could be behind it.
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And what does
one of these weapons actually sound like?
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To find out,
I'm meeting with Alex Berezow,
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a science writer
who's been investigating the Cuban incident
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to see who could carry out
such a bold attack.
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You studied the sonic attacks
that took place in Cuba last year.
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Have you come up
with any ideas
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about who did this and/or why
they might've done this?
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What we do know is that in 2014,
the Russians are back in Cuba.
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They closed down
one of their spy bases in 2001 because of financial reasons.
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They reopened it in 2014.
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We also know that they
have a long penchant for poisoning people.
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They've poisoned spies
in Britain.
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It's completely possible
that Russians are behind it.
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It's interesting
that you say it was 2014 when the Russians came back,
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and the idea that maybe this
was some kind of a--
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Guinea pig?Exactly.
Some kind of a beta phase--
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Yeah....of the operation.
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Correct.It's U.S. diplomats
being targeted.
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People that have government affiliation.
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It would seem to imply
that it was on purpose and not accidental.
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It's not common for people
to have concussions
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and signs of some sort
of severe distress,
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and for no one to have any idea what's causing it.
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Do you have an example
of what the people
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who heard something
might have heard? I do.
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Is it okay for us
to listen to it?Uh, we might handle it
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for a few seconds.Uh-huh.
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Are you ready?I guess so.
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[high-pitched static sound]
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[high-pitched static sound
continues]
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[sound stops]
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That's really unsettling. It's--
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It feels, to me, like a form
of brainwashing, in a way.
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It's a form
of psychological warfare.
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If you know that you're going
to be assaulted if you were just going to do your job,
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you may not want to do it
if you know that-- "My goodness,
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"I might go to Cuba
and come back with a concussion,
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and I don't know
what caused it."
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That's scary.
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I think this is
a new form of terrorism that we will see more of.
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[Quinto]
Psychological warfare
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waged with 21st century
sonic weapons
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may be the newest form
of mind control.
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But this kind
of mental manipulation
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can trace its roots back
to the ancient art of voodoo.
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For centuries, voodoo priests
would perform bizarre rituals
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and dismember dolls
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to unleash dark spirits
many believed
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could penetrate
an enemy's brain
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and inflict maximum
psychological harm.
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But in recent years,
these psychological warfare techniques
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have given way
to more modern methods of mind control,
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such as brainwashing.
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There is evidence
that they actually believe
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that Charles Manson
is Jesus Christ.
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[Quinto]
Experts believe some of the most notorious cults
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and terrorist groups in history were formed by brainwashing.
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In 1978, People's Temple
founder, Jim Jones,
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brainwashed nearly 1,000
members of his cult to kill themselves...
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because he believed
U.S. intelligence agencies
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were planning to invade
his Jonestown commune.
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[Quinto] He convinced all of his members
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to drink Kool-Aid
laced with cyanide.
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Could this have been
a case of mind control?
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In recent years,
leaders of the ISIS terrorist group
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have brainwashed
countless followers to blow themselves up
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in suicide missions
around the world
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to advance their ideology.
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David LaPorte believes
these leaders
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force their followers
to commit the ultimate sacrifice
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by relying on
key brainwashing techniques
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refined by evil manipulators
over the centuries.
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Studies identified
a number of elements that lead to better brainwashing.
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You isolate the individuals.
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You give them
message repeatedly.
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You deprive them of something.
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So, you make them cold,
or you don't feed them adequately,
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you don't give them
enough water.
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And you also
induce high emotion.
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The outside environment
can exert
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a tremendous influence
in very powerful ways.
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[Quinto]
So, how do evil individuals control the minds
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of vulnerable people
around the world?
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To find out,
I've located someone
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who mastered
this mind control technique to recruit new members
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to join one of
the most dangerous terrorist groups on earth.
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[car door alarm dinging]
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I understand that you have
a pretty unique background.
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You know, in 1998,
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a previously unknown guy
named Osama bin Laden
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emerged on the jihadist scene,
474
00:27:32,738 --> 00:27:35,784
calling on attacks against
the Jews and the crusaders.
475
00:27:35,828 --> 00:27:38,831
And we wanted
to answer the call.
476
00:27:38,874 --> 00:27:41,137
[Quinto]
Mubin Shaikh was a recruiter for Al Qaeda
477
00:27:41,181 --> 00:27:45,664
from 1995 until
the 9/11 attacks in 2001,
478
00:27:45,707 --> 00:27:47,883
when he deserted
his terror cell and became
479
00:27:47,927 --> 00:27:50,538
a counterintelligence
informant,
480
00:27:50,581 --> 00:27:54,150
sharing his insider knowledge
to prevent future attacks.
481
00:27:54,194 --> 00:27:56,500
[sirens wailing]
482
00:27:56,544 --> 00:27:59,765
With incidents
on the rise worldwide,
483
00:27:59,808 --> 00:28:03,377
I want to know
if Mubin can shed light on how brainwashing techniques
484
00:28:03,420 --> 00:28:06,510
are being used
to control the actions of terrorists.
485
00:28:08,599 --> 00:28:13,126
In terms of the mentality
of a terrorist organization
486
00:28:13,169 --> 00:28:16,695
and how they recruit
and condition people--
487
00:28:16,738 --> 00:28:18,958
I mean, there has to be
some kind of element
488
00:28:19,001 --> 00:28:21,612
of mind control or manipulation
in that process.
489
00:28:21,656 --> 00:28:24,703
Extremist groups of any kind--
far right, jihadists--
490
00:28:27,967 --> 00:28:29,708
They look for certain people.
491
00:28:29,751 --> 00:28:31,753
People who are searching
for something.
492
00:28:31,797 --> 00:28:34,800
Searching for meaning,
belonging, a family.
493
00:28:34,843 --> 00:28:36,889
Those were the people that
we would target deliberately,
494
00:28:36,932 --> 00:28:39,413
because we knew that they were
in that vulnerable state.
495
00:28:45,375 --> 00:28:47,247
[men shouting]
496
00:28:47,290 --> 00:28:49,771
In terms of the mind control
we've been exploring,
497
00:28:49,815 --> 00:28:54,167
it feels very much like
what he both experienced and then perpetrated,
498
00:28:54,210 --> 00:28:55,864
in some ways,
was a kind of brainwashing.
499
00:29:01,696 --> 00:29:04,003
There's the psychology
of terrorist acts.
500
00:29:04,046 --> 00:29:08,050
How is it seen that destroying
property and lives
501
00:29:08,094 --> 00:29:10,444
is furthering a cause?
502
00:29:10,487 --> 00:29:14,665
Media gives terrorism
a longevity it might not otherwise enjoy.
503
00:29:14,709 --> 00:29:18,365
That's the idea
of terrorism as theater.
504
00:29:18,408 --> 00:29:23,544
When we see these images,
we are actually reinforcing that idea
505
00:29:23,587 --> 00:29:25,633
that extremist groups
understand very well--
506
00:29:25,676 --> 00:29:28,723
is that fear
really motivates people.
507
00:29:28,767 --> 00:29:31,595
And extremist groups know
what the fear will do.
508
00:29:31,639 --> 00:29:34,207
It works.
509
00:29:34,250 --> 00:29:35,556
And it's as simple as that,
and they know it.
510
00:29:39,603 --> 00:29:42,215
It's not the number of people
that are killed.
511
00:29:42,258 --> 00:29:50,092
It's the number of people
that are watching.
512
00:29:50,136 --> 00:29:53,269
[Shaikh] [Quinto]
The group that I went with, their whole mantra, if you will,
513
00:29:53,313 --> 00:29:56,359
is "If you want to change
the world, you do it with this," and he picked up the AK-47.
514
00:29:56,403 --> 00:29:58,274
Right. And what did it
do to you in that moment?
515
00:29:58,318 --> 00:30:01,147
I was bit by the jihadi bug.
516
00:30:01,190 --> 00:30:04,280
[Quinto]
I'm in Austin, Texas, meeting with Mubin Shaikh,
517
00:30:04,324 --> 00:30:07,501
a former Islamic terrorist
who fled his cell
518
00:30:07,544 --> 00:30:10,199
to become an informant
for law enforcement.
519
00:30:10,243 --> 00:30:12,506
Do you have
any pictures of yourself when you were undercover?
520
00:30:12,549 --> 00:30:15,988
Yeah. This is me
for almost 15 years.
521
00:30:16,031 --> 00:30:19,165
Yeah, you look like--Look like the Taliban.
522
00:30:19,208 --> 00:30:22,777
Black turban, long beard,
long robes.
523
00:30:22,821 --> 00:30:25,432
[Quinto]
I've seen how mind control
524
00:30:25,475 --> 00:30:28,130
has been used by leaders
throughout history
525
00:30:28,174 --> 00:30:32,047
to manipulate small groups
of followers.
526
00:30:32,091 --> 00:30:35,616
But while Mubin
was with Al Qaeda, he used brainwashing methods
527
00:30:35,659 --> 00:30:37,966
which controlled
thousands of terrorists.
528
00:30:38,010 --> 00:30:40,316
I want to know the secrets
behind these techniques,
529
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,362
which are powerful enough
to convince members
530
00:30:42,405 --> 00:30:44,668
to carry out heinous missions,
531
00:30:44,712 --> 00:30:47,584
even if it terminates
their own lives.
532
00:30:47,628 --> 00:30:51,414
So, I'm interested
in the psychology of these acts of violence
533
00:30:51,458 --> 00:30:54,287
when they involve
pushing someone past
534
00:30:54,330 --> 00:30:55,897
their normal instinct
for survival.
535
00:30:55,941 --> 00:30:59,031
To get them over that
is difficult.
536
00:30:59,074 --> 00:31:02,425
The number
one thing you have to do is to convince the person,
537
00:31:02,469 --> 00:31:05,167
not necessarily
that they want to die,
538
00:31:05,211 --> 00:31:07,517
but where they're gonna go
after they die,
539
00:31:07,561 --> 00:31:11,260
playing on their insecurities
and convincing them that,
540
00:31:11,304 --> 00:31:14,220
in fact, they're off
to a better place.
541
00:31:14,263 --> 00:31:17,440
Number two,
the mission has to be a holy mission.
542
00:31:17,484 --> 00:31:20,182
It has to transcend
beyond this world.
543
00:31:20,226 --> 00:31:22,968
They must be convinced
that actually they are doing the right thing.
544
00:31:23,011 --> 00:31:26,101
Because they know that this is
actually the wrong thing.
545
00:31:26,145 --> 00:31:28,016
[sirens wailing]
546
00:31:32,586 --> 00:31:34,936
[Quinto]
Mubin has helped me uncover the secrets behind
547
00:31:34,980 --> 00:31:38,853
the mind control techniques
used by Al Qaeda
548
00:31:38,897 --> 00:31:42,988
and other terrorist
and cult organizations.
549
00:31:43,031 --> 00:31:45,207
But I've also seen
compelling evidence
550
00:31:45,251 --> 00:31:48,645
about how
cutting-edge technology, such as implants--
551
00:31:48,689 --> 00:31:53,041
I had been drugged
and implanted in my own home.Oh!
552
00:31:53,085 --> 00:31:57,959
...computers, even sound waves, can control the human mind.
553
00:31:58,003 --> 00:32:01,049
It went into my face,
ears, back of my neck.
554
00:32:01,093 --> 00:32:03,225
[Quinto]
So all of this makes me wonder:
555
00:32:03,269 --> 00:32:07,360
is it possible for someone else to take control of my brain
556
00:32:07,403 --> 00:32:10,058
using nothing more
than their mind and the power of suggestion?
557
00:32:14,845 --> 00:32:18,849
To find out,
I'm going head-to-head with Matt Cooper,
558
00:32:18,893 --> 00:32:21,591
a mentalist
who has spent decades
559
00:32:21,635 --> 00:32:25,030
mastering the dark art
of manipulating other people's thoughts
560
00:32:25,073 --> 00:32:28,076
and reading their minds.
561
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,427
Matt's goal is to show me
what it's like to experience
562
00:32:31,471 --> 00:32:34,953
total mind control.
563
00:32:34,996 --> 00:32:38,565
He's going to attempt
to control my thoughts.
564
00:32:38,608 --> 00:32:40,306
You are a mentalist?
565
00:32:40,349 --> 00:32:42,177
Mentalist, mind reader,
thought reader.
566
00:32:42,221 --> 00:32:45,006
A mentalist replicates
extraordinary mental powers
567
00:32:45,050 --> 00:32:47,835
using techniques of illusion
and some psychology.
568
00:32:47,878 --> 00:32:49,532
Do you believe
in mind control?
569
00:32:49,576 --> 00:32:51,099
Oh, mind control?
Absolutely.
570
00:32:51,143 --> 00:32:53,319
I think that there are ways
to manipulate people.
571
00:32:53,362 --> 00:32:57,584
You are eliciting a feeling
in someone through suggestion.
572
00:32:57,627 --> 00:33:00,500
In your daily life,
when you interact with people,
573
00:33:00,543 --> 00:33:04,243
are there ways
that you can benefit from techniques like this?
574
00:33:04,286 --> 00:33:07,594
Yes, there are
certain techniques that you can use
575
00:33:07,637 --> 00:33:09,509
that will allow you
to have an edge
576
00:33:09,552 --> 00:33:12,860
to take advantage of people,
which is a very powerful thing.
577
00:33:12,903 --> 00:33:17,734
But we're talking about
more nefarious applications of this stuff.
578
00:33:17,778 --> 00:33:21,695
Do you look back at--
I don't know-- famous cult leaders and, say,
579
00:33:21,738 --> 00:33:24,350
like, you can see techniques
that they've used?
580
00:33:24,393 --> 00:33:27,875
Uh, historical examples,
with Hitler getting people to do atrocious acts
581
00:33:27,918 --> 00:33:30,269
and convince them that
it's the right thing to do.
582
00:33:30,312 --> 00:33:32,793
I mean, it's not really
my area of expertise, because I have chosen
583
00:33:32,836 --> 00:33:35,230
the good side,
I guess you could say, but--
584
00:33:35,274 --> 00:33:37,972
The white magic version of it.Yeah. I suppose, yeah.
585
00:33:38,016 --> 00:33:41,193
Should we put this
into practice a little bit?Try something? Yeah, absolutely.
586
00:33:41,236 --> 00:33:44,500
[Quinto] Matt will put his mind control powers to the test
587
00:33:44,544 --> 00:33:46,937
through a series
of demonstrations.
588
00:33:46,981 --> 00:33:49,853
I'm more interested
in more specific information.
589
00:33:49,897 --> 00:33:52,030
Things that come
from your history. All right?
590
00:33:52,073 --> 00:33:54,815
So I want you to think
of anything you want.
591
00:33:54,858 --> 00:33:58,210
Could be a person,
a place, an object.
592
00:33:58,253 --> 00:34:00,864
Whatever you want,
but it has to have some meaning to you.
593
00:34:00,908 --> 00:34:02,301
Does that make sense?
Okay. Mm-hmm.
594
00:34:02,344 --> 00:34:04,259
You've got something?
Okay. Yeah.
595
00:34:04,303 --> 00:34:08,742
Look at me
and just picture this thing.
596
00:34:08,785 --> 00:34:11,571
Maybe interact with it.
If it's a person, say hello to this person.
597
00:34:11,614 --> 00:34:14,400
If it's a place,
see yourself in this place.
598
00:34:14,443 --> 00:34:16,402
Okay. Hold on.
Just, you know, stand up for me.
599
00:34:18,752 --> 00:34:20,971
Uh, right there is fine.
Shoulders back.
600
00:34:21,015 --> 00:34:23,322
Take a deep breath in.
601
00:34:23,365 --> 00:34:25,585
Let it out.
602
00:34:25,628 --> 00:34:27,935
So...
603
00:34:27,978 --> 00:34:30,111
you thinking of a place?Mm-hmm.
604
00:34:30,155 --> 00:34:31,634
Yes?Mm-hmm.
605
00:34:34,507 --> 00:34:37,684
Do palaces make any sense
to you? Because that's the image I'm getting.
606
00:34:37,727 --> 00:34:40,078
Like grand palaces, gardens,
that kind of thing.Sure.
607
00:34:40,121 --> 00:34:42,950
Mosques, even?Sure.
608
00:34:42,993 --> 00:34:48,434
So, we're talking about
a location somewhere, um, with a Muslim-leaning side.
609
00:34:48,477 --> 00:34:50,827
Mm-hmm.Um, Morocco?
Does that make sense?
610
00:34:50,871 --> 00:34:52,525
Yeah. Sure.Yes? I think I have it.
611
00:34:52,568 --> 00:34:54,483
Okay.Um, this is a place
that you visited recently?
612
00:34:54,527 --> 00:34:57,051
Mm-hmm.Yeah? Um...
613
00:34:57,095 --> 00:34:59,358
I hope you had a good time
in Marrakesh. Yes?[muttering]
614
00:34:59,401 --> 00:35:00,750
[laughing]
615
00:35:00,794 --> 00:35:05,364
So weird.
You guys, it's so weird.
616
00:35:05,407 --> 00:35:09,063
Like, he didn't tell me
to choose a place. He told me to choose anything.
617
00:35:09,107 --> 00:35:12,588
I could've chosen my dog
or a car or--
618
00:35:12,632 --> 00:35:15,548
I mean, I could've
chosen anything. How would he have known that?
619
00:35:15,591 --> 00:35:18,768
Is a part of this
about manipulating me
620
00:35:18,812 --> 00:35:21,771
to give the answers away?
621
00:35:21,815 --> 00:35:25,340
We're always giving up
information, constantly.Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
622
00:35:25,384 --> 00:35:27,255
It's in our nature
to give up information. Right.
623
00:35:27,299 --> 00:35:30,345
Part of it is picking up
on things that you're giving away.
624
00:35:30,389 --> 00:35:33,000
But some of the time it's not.
Sometimes it's just a trick--Mm-hmm.
625
00:35:33,043 --> 00:35:35,394
...designed to look like
I'm picking up on things.Mm-hmm.
626
00:35:35,437 --> 00:35:38,266
I may be able to teach you
how to read my thoughts,
627
00:35:38,310 --> 00:35:41,443
wherein,
I'm kind of helping you, but you wouldn't be aware of it.
628
00:35:41,487 --> 00:35:43,663
[Quinto]
Matt has set up a test.
629
00:35:43,706 --> 00:35:46,448
We'll each get a matching set
of five cards.
630
00:35:46,492 --> 00:35:48,842
We'll need to put down
those cards one at a time--
631
00:35:48,885 --> 00:35:51,061
him first, and then me.
632
00:35:51,105 --> 00:35:52,976
You take those.
There's five there.
633
00:35:53,020 --> 00:35:55,065
[Quinto]
With Matt employing a form of mind control
634
00:35:55,109 --> 00:35:57,329
to get me to place
cards on the table
635
00:35:57,372 --> 00:35:59,200
in the same order he does.
636
00:35:59,244 --> 00:36:01,637
You can mix them up
if you like.
637
00:36:01,681 --> 00:36:04,640
[Quinto]
If it works, all five of our cards
638
00:36:04,684 --> 00:36:06,947
should end up
in the exact same order.
639
00:36:06,990 --> 00:36:10,168
Three out of five
would be considered psychic.
640
00:36:19,264 --> 00:36:21,266
[Quinto]
I'm with Matt Cooper,
641
00:36:21,309 --> 00:36:23,355
a mentalist who's
perfected his ability
642
00:36:23,398 --> 00:36:26,358
to manipulate the thoughts
of other people,
643
00:36:26,401 --> 00:36:28,925
not with computers
and sound waves,
644
00:36:28,969 --> 00:36:31,101
but only his mind.
645
00:36:37,456 --> 00:36:40,415
I'm gonna through these
and kind of-- kind of choose them at random,
646
00:36:40,459 --> 00:36:42,330
and I'll try
and send them to you. Yeah.
647
00:36:42,374 --> 00:36:44,071
So, don't think of one yet.Okay.
648
00:36:44,114 --> 00:36:45,812
I'll put one down first.[cards rustling]
649
00:36:45,855 --> 00:36:48,075
Okay. Look at me.
650
00:36:48,118 --> 00:36:53,515
Allow yourself to just see
all the shapes in your mind.
651
00:36:53,559 --> 00:36:57,171
I want just one of the symbols
to kind of present itself to you.
652
00:36:57,215 --> 00:37:00,914
You don't choose it,
it just shows itself.
653
00:37:00,957 --> 00:37:04,047
All right.
I can see that you have it.
654
00:37:04,091 --> 00:37:07,616
Put it facedown.
I've already put mine down, so I can't change mine.
655
00:37:07,660 --> 00:37:10,358
Have a look at them again.
Same feeling.
656
00:37:10,402 --> 00:37:12,578
Just allow--
Okay. Hold on.
657
00:37:12,621 --> 00:37:16,103
Now, you thought of two.
But there's a sense of doubt with the first one.
658
00:37:16,146 --> 00:37:18,279
I want you to go back to
the first one you thought of.Okay.
659
00:37:18,323 --> 00:37:20,020
All right.
Put that one down.
660
00:37:21,674 --> 00:37:23,241
All right?
661
00:37:25,982 --> 00:37:28,768
Three left.
Just jumble them up in your head.
662
00:37:28,811 --> 00:37:31,466
Just kind of see them
kind of jumbling up.
663
00:37:31,510 --> 00:37:33,686
Look at me.
That one there. Just put one down now.
664
00:37:33,729 --> 00:37:35,731
Just put one down.
Don't think about it. Put one down.
665
00:37:35,775 --> 00:37:38,168
All right.
There's two left.
666
00:37:38,212 --> 00:37:41,084
I'm trying to choose.
How about this one?
667
00:37:41,128 --> 00:37:44,479
All right.
Go ahead. Put one down.
668
00:37:44,523 --> 00:37:47,177
Stop.
You have to feel as if you know it to be true.
669
00:37:47,221 --> 00:37:50,006
Okay? So don't worry
about getting it wrong. You already know what it is.
670
00:37:50,050 --> 00:37:51,573
Uh-huh.So put it down.
671
00:37:51,617 --> 00:37:53,749
That's the last one.Uh-huh.
672
00:37:56,491 --> 00:37:59,189
The odds of getting
all of them right is very unlikely.
673
00:37:59,233 --> 00:38:01,975
Um, but just pick them up.
We're gonna deal them down from the top, okay?
674
00:38:02,018 --> 00:38:03,759
Same-- From the top.Wait. From here?
675
00:38:03,803 --> 00:38:04,934
Yeah, from the top.Okay.
676
00:38:04,978 --> 00:38:07,807
So the last one
was a circle.
677
00:38:09,678 --> 00:38:12,290
So far, so good.So far, so good.
678
00:38:12,333 --> 00:38:14,379
And then we had...
679
00:38:14,422 --> 00:38:15,858
[chuckling, muttering]
680
00:38:15,902 --> 00:38:18,165
Square.
681
00:38:18,208 --> 00:38:20,950
[chuckling][chuckling]
You--
682
00:38:20,994 --> 00:38:23,170
You realize
if this one's right, that's all five, right?
683
00:38:23,213 --> 00:38:25,694
Yeah.I'll put mine down first.
684
00:38:25,738 --> 00:38:28,654
That's all five.Oh, dude, that's so crazy!
685
00:38:28,697 --> 00:38:33,311
There it is.That is so crazy.
686
00:38:33,354 --> 00:38:36,836
The thing that really threw me
was the cards.
687
00:38:36,879 --> 00:38:41,449
'Cause I'm sitting there like,
if I'm looking for something, I don't know what I'm looking for.
688
00:38:41,493 --> 00:38:45,584
And there were times
when I just was like, "It's the cross.
689
00:38:45,627 --> 00:38:48,369
It's the cross.
It's the cross."
690
00:38:48,413 --> 00:38:50,415
And I just went with it
like he told me to,
691
00:38:50,458 --> 00:38:53,374
and I just believed
that I could do it.
692
00:38:53,418 --> 00:38:57,247
So, I mean, it was pretty impressive to me, I have to say.
693
00:38:57,291 --> 00:38:58,988
It's a bit
of a superpower, in a way.
694
00:38:59,032 --> 00:39:01,904
You were somehow helping me
695
00:39:01,948 --> 00:39:05,734
to arrive at this order
of cards.
696
00:39:05,778 --> 00:39:07,780
Were there things
that you were doing
697
00:39:07,823 --> 00:39:10,391
to trigger
my unconscious mind--
698
00:39:10,435 --> 00:39:13,351
Mm-hmm....to know what shapes
you were putting down?
699
00:39:13,394 --> 00:39:15,396
If you're thinking
about mentalism, you don't really want to think
700
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,616
in terms of magical thinking,
and illusion, tricks like that,
701
00:39:17,659 --> 00:39:19,139
but you want to think
psychologically.
702
00:39:19,182 --> 00:39:21,359
Always just about
reading signals. Okay.
703
00:39:21,402 --> 00:39:23,361
There are
other things at play
704
00:39:23,404 --> 00:39:25,754
that allow me to gather
information about you
705
00:39:25,798 --> 00:39:27,974
that isn't just about
you communicating them unconsciously.
706
00:39:28,017 --> 00:39:30,759
Obviously,
there is something to it.
707
00:39:30,803 --> 00:39:35,329
He's employing techniques--
suggesting and, like, planting seeds--
708
00:39:35,373 --> 00:39:37,505
that I could feel
him employing,
709
00:39:37,549 --> 00:39:40,160
even though I didn't know
what they were.
710
00:39:40,203 --> 00:39:44,425
The mystery of the human brain
and how to manipulate it
711
00:39:44,469 --> 00:39:49,430
continues to perplex
and terrify mankind to this day.
712
00:39:49,474 --> 00:39:54,522
And while history has shown us
that powerful forces of both good and evil
713
00:39:54,566 --> 00:39:59,092
may have already mastered
the ability to control our minds,
714
00:39:59,135 --> 00:40:02,138
the future of our civilization
may well depend
715
00:40:02,182 --> 00:40:05,098
on our ability to defend
against these dark forces
716
00:40:05,141 --> 00:40:06,969
at all costs.
717
00:40:07,013 --> 00:40:12,453
Otherwise, we may be
entering an era
718
00:40:12,497 --> 00:40:16,370
where are thoughts
may never again be entirely our own.
719
00:40:16,420 --> 00:40:20,970
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