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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:15,928 --> 00:00:18,192 [Zachary Quinto] For thousands of years, powerful forces, 2 00:00:18,235 --> 00:00:20,063 both good and evil, 3 00:00:20,107 --> 00:00:24,720 have sought ways to control the human brain. 4 00:00:24,763 --> 00:00:28,637 Ancient tales have described bizarre rituals 5 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:33,163 involving voodoo and brainwashing, 6 00:00:33,207 --> 00:00:37,385 designed to enslave the minds of thousands. 7 00:00:37,428 --> 00:00:40,388 Today, recent advances in technology 8 00:00:40,431 --> 00:00:43,565 have made this fear all too real. 9 00:00:43,608 --> 00:00:47,047 And no one knows this better than Kansas native, James Walbert. 10 00:00:52,008 --> 00:00:55,533 In the year 2004, I had become a victim of mind control. 11 00:00:57,535 --> 00:01:02,410 I had been drugged and implanted in my own home. 12 00:01:02,453 --> 00:01:06,501 I experienced trembling and shaking, remote burning, jolts, shocks. 13 00:01:08,372 --> 00:01:10,983 The implants have been inside of my body for 14 years. 14 00:01:11,027 --> 00:01:15,379 I know who targeted me, and I know why. 15 00:01:15,423 --> 00:01:19,340 There's 100% possibility that we are being recorded right now. 16 00:01:19,383 --> 00:01:21,907 [Quinto] How is it possible for people like James 17 00:01:21,951 --> 00:01:24,606 to fall victim to mind control? 18 00:01:24,649 --> 00:01:28,392 Are dark forces enslaving people around the world? 19 00:01:28,436 --> 00:01:31,265 Can anyone's brain be manipulated by evil? 20 00:01:34,485 --> 00:01:36,748 My search begins now. 21 00:01:38,185 --> 00:01:40,404 My Name is Zachary Quinto. 22 00:01:40,448 --> 00:01:43,755 As an actor, I've played many supernatural characters 23 00:01:43,799 --> 00:01:47,194 that blurred the line between science and fiction. 24 00:01:47,237 --> 00:01:51,546 I'm drawn to the unknown, the otherworldly, 25 00:01:51,589 --> 00:01:54,723 and those experiences so beyond belief, 26 00:01:54,766 --> 00:01:57,856 they call everything into question. 27 00:01:57,900 --> 00:02:01,251 I'm exploring some of the most enduring mysteries 28 00:02:01,295 --> 00:02:04,036 that continue to haunt mankind in search of the truth... 29 00:02:05,212 --> 00:02:06,691 wherever it leads me. 30 00:02:19,574 --> 00:02:23,186 Since the dawn of early civilizations, 31 00:02:23,230 --> 00:02:26,102 when rival cultures waged bloody battles 32 00:02:26,146 --> 00:02:28,452 to advance their different ideologies, 33 00:02:28,496 --> 00:02:31,977 many have dreamed of controlling the minds of others, 34 00:02:32,021 --> 00:02:35,851 while preventing enemies from controlling theirs. 35 00:02:35,894 --> 00:02:40,943 Ancient texts, such as the 15th century Malleus Maleficarum, 36 00:02:40,986 --> 00:02:44,555 reveal our dark appetite for torture, 37 00:02:44,599 --> 00:02:47,341 mysterious potions, 38 00:02:47,384 --> 00:02:51,214 and spells to enslave another's mind. 39 00:02:51,258 --> 00:02:54,870 But these handbooks are only the beginning. 40 00:02:54,913 --> 00:02:57,742 During the Cold War, the Soviet Union 41 00:02:57,786 --> 00:03:00,571 spent billions of dollars on its psychotronic program 42 00:03:00,615 --> 00:03:03,008 to control the minds of its adversaries 43 00:03:03,052 --> 00:03:05,968 and create real-life Manchurian Candidates-- 44 00:03:06,011 --> 00:03:08,666 brainwashed political assassins 45 00:03:08,710 --> 00:03:12,540 programmed to change the course of history. 46 00:03:12,583 --> 00:03:15,891 These frightening historical accounts make me wonder: 47 00:03:15,934 --> 00:03:19,155 is mind control possible, and is it happening today? 48 00:03:25,944 --> 00:03:29,034 I've located a man named James Walbert, 49 00:03:29,078 --> 00:03:32,168 who claims he was surgically implanted by a business rival 50 00:03:32,212 --> 00:03:35,345 and placed under mind control against his will. 51 00:03:35,389 --> 00:03:37,739 James is an entrepreneur 52 00:03:37,782 --> 00:03:41,177 and an inventor of antibacterial plastic products. 53 00:03:41,221 --> 00:03:42,918 I woke up in my bed--Right. 54 00:03:42,961 --> 00:03:45,964 ...with blood coming out of my left ear, my jaw swollen, 55 00:03:46,008 --> 00:03:47,705 and my right shoulder was affected as well. 56 00:03:50,142 --> 00:03:53,276 I had been drugged and implanted in my own home. 57 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,410 I started hearing, like, super high-pitched static sounds. 58 00:03:58,150 --> 00:04:00,327 My body was being disrupted from a distance. 59 00:04:03,199 --> 00:04:05,288 There was most certainly something there. 60 00:04:05,332 --> 00:04:08,204 I could feel it on my nervous system. 61 00:04:08,248 --> 00:04:11,686 My arm would jump. Or my leg would jump. 62 00:04:13,818 --> 00:04:16,517 Did you have testing done at all 63 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,780 to see what was causing this stuff? 64 00:04:18,823 --> 00:04:22,262 I had an MRI done, and they had found 65 00:04:22,305 --> 00:04:25,395 a foreign body in my left ear 66 00:04:25,439 --> 00:04:27,354 and in my neck. 67 00:04:29,399 --> 00:04:31,706 Oh, my God. So, this is the actual-- 68 00:04:31,749 --> 00:04:35,013 That is the actual capsule in my right trapezia. 69 00:04:35,057 --> 00:04:37,973 So, like, here, basically.That's what they call a "tracker chip." 70 00:04:38,016 --> 00:04:41,498 I was under a constant state of mind control. 71 00:04:43,935 --> 00:04:47,635 I'm staggered by this on so many levels. 72 00:04:47,678 --> 00:04:52,030 First of all, that someone would be so diabolical to do this. 73 00:04:52,074 --> 00:04:55,512 It sounds like something out of a spy movie. 74 00:04:59,429 --> 00:05:02,127 So you were the first person in the history of the United States 75 00:05:02,171 --> 00:05:06,044 to win a court case that's based in 76 00:05:06,088 --> 00:05:09,613 a form of what's considered electromagnetic terrorism, in a way, right? 77 00:05:09,657 --> 00:05:11,136 Yes, that is correct. Yes. 78 00:05:15,010 --> 00:05:19,536 And how long did it take you to build a case? 79 00:05:19,580 --> 00:05:23,018 It took me a year and a half to build a solid case. Uh-huh. 80 00:05:27,239 --> 00:05:29,111 Hired two private investigators. 81 00:05:29,154 --> 00:05:32,375 They both researched every single thing I said. 82 00:05:32,419 --> 00:05:36,945 I presented all of my evidence, and the FBI immediately identified suspects. 83 00:05:36,988 --> 00:05:41,428 Wow. I took them to court and won. 84 00:05:41,471 --> 00:05:45,562 Now there's 21 laws against illegal implantation in the United States. 85 00:05:45,606 --> 00:05:48,086 Prior to that, if you'd ever even mention an implant, 86 00:05:48,130 --> 00:05:50,088 you were paranoid, you were delusional. 87 00:05:52,700 --> 00:05:54,658 [Quinto] When you talk to someone like James, 88 00:05:54,702 --> 00:05:57,792 what seems farfetched and unbelievable... 89 00:06:00,055 --> 00:06:03,406 then becomes really understandable. 90 00:06:03,450 --> 00:06:05,452 Having these implants in his body-- 91 00:06:05,495 --> 00:06:11,066 it's a very real example of "mind control." 92 00:06:11,109 --> 00:06:13,851 Now I understand how something like that could actually happen. 93 00:06:16,245 --> 00:06:18,378 But James is not alone. 94 00:06:22,164 --> 00:06:24,035 The U.S. government has been conducting 95 00:06:24,079 --> 00:06:27,909 mind control experiments for decades. 96 00:06:27,952 --> 00:06:32,479 In 1953, the CIA launched the MKUltra program 97 00:06:32,522 --> 00:06:34,829 in order to develop their own mind control methods. 98 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,008 But because MKUltra was top secret, 99 00:06:40,051 --> 00:06:44,447 the agency could use anyone as test subjects. 100 00:06:44,491 --> 00:06:47,407 Experts, such as John Greenwald, Jr., 101 00:06:47,450 --> 00:06:49,496 an author who's been studying the secret inner workings 102 00:06:49,539 --> 00:06:52,412 of the U.S. government for over 20 years, 103 00:06:52,455 --> 00:06:54,631 used the Freedom of Information Act 104 00:06:54,675 --> 00:06:56,764 to uncover the fact that the CIA 105 00:06:56,807 --> 00:06:59,244 was targeting innocent civilians. 106 00:06:59,288 --> 00:07:02,291 Back in 1953, the general public had no idea 107 00:07:02,334 --> 00:07:05,903 that the CIA was doing these really horrific experiments 108 00:07:05,947 --> 00:07:09,385 on prisoners and mental health patients, 109 00:07:09,429 --> 00:07:12,388 literally grabbing people off the streets 110 00:07:12,432 --> 00:07:15,739 and subjecting them to experiments with LSD and hypnosis. 111 00:07:15,783 --> 00:07:20,309 They also started experimenting with physical torture, 112 00:07:20,352 --> 00:07:25,532 subjecting people to the lack of sleep for days at a time 113 00:07:25,575 --> 00:07:30,754 to really experiment with how far the human body would go until it snapped. 114 00:07:30,798 --> 00:07:33,453 They had instances where they actually killed people. 115 00:07:33,496 --> 00:07:36,456 People died because of their experiments. 116 00:07:36,499 --> 00:07:38,719 [Quinto] To this day, the United States government 117 00:07:38,762 --> 00:07:42,897 has never fully disclosed all aspects of MKUltra, 118 00:07:42,940 --> 00:07:45,465 but many speculate the program rewrote the book 119 00:07:45,508 --> 00:07:48,511 on the use of mind control in war. 120 00:07:48,555 --> 00:07:50,948 [Greenwald] In the world of government research, 121 00:07:50,992 --> 00:07:53,385 if you do something for 20 years, 122 00:07:53,429 --> 00:07:56,780 you know darn well that they did something worthwhile and worth pursuing. 123 00:07:56,824 --> 00:08:00,305 [Quinto] Could this still be happening today? 124 00:08:00,349 --> 00:08:04,048 If it is, how do you control someone's mind? 125 00:08:08,139 --> 00:08:10,533 At a laboratory called Backyard Brains... 126 00:08:13,318 --> 00:08:16,713 neuroscientist Greg Gage is developing ways 127 00:08:16,757 --> 00:08:20,587 to override the brains of other humans. 128 00:08:20,630 --> 00:08:22,545 When you're talking about mind control, 129 00:08:22,589 --> 00:08:24,547 you're talking about actually controlling something, 130 00:08:24,591 --> 00:08:26,723 and you're consciously aware of it, right?That's right. 131 00:08:26,767 --> 00:08:29,639 Roll up your sleeve. And I'm going to put some electrodes on your arm. 132 00:08:29,683 --> 00:08:31,946 There's a little bit of gel inside of here, 133 00:08:31,989 --> 00:08:35,210 and that gel allows the ions to flow through your skin, into the metal. 134 00:08:35,253 --> 00:08:37,125 [Quinto] Greg's technology allows me 135 00:08:37,168 --> 00:08:39,431 to send my brain signals to a machine-- 136 00:08:39,475 --> 00:08:42,086 And so, if I plug this into here-- 137 00:08:42,130 --> 00:08:46,134 [Quinto] ...like this prosthetic hand, to remotely move objects. 138 00:08:46,177 --> 00:08:48,658 This is called a "neural prosthetic."It's so crazy. 139 00:08:48,702 --> 00:08:50,660 You're controlling it through your nervous system. 140 00:08:50,704 --> 00:08:53,576 This is a way that we can tap into your brain 141 00:08:53,620 --> 00:08:55,752 to make a computer do something. 142 00:08:55,796 --> 00:08:59,364 What would happen now if, instead of controlling a robotic arm, 143 00:08:59,408 --> 00:09:02,977 nt your brain signal into my body? 144 00:09:03,020 --> 00:09:06,763 Then your brain will control not only your arm, but also my arm. 145 00:09:06,807 --> 00:09:08,635 I would like to see how that works. [laughs] 146 00:09:08,678 --> 00:09:10,593 And I'll put some electrodes on me. 147 00:09:10,637 --> 00:09:14,075 I'm gonna put one here, and I'll put another one here. 148 00:09:14,118 --> 00:09:18,340 If I plug us together, you will take away my free will. 149 00:09:18,383 --> 00:09:21,430 So when you're ready, go ahead and move your hand. 150 00:09:27,479 --> 00:09:30,265 So, right now, you have complete control over that. And I can try to fight it. 151 00:09:30,308 --> 00:09:33,181 But I can also turn up the game so that I can't fight it anymore. 152 00:09:33,224 --> 00:09:36,619 What level is this?I'm at 3, and it goes up to 8. 153 00:09:36,663 --> 00:09:39,883 What happens if you turn it up?I'll turn it all the way up. 154 00:09:39,927 --> 00:09:42,059 Ah! Okay. It just... [chuckles] 155 00:09:42,103 --> 00:09:44,105 But how amazing.Yeah. 156 00:09:44,148 --> 00:09:47,325 The electrical waves of my brain were controlling the computer, 157 00:09:47,369 --> 00:09:50,372 ultimately, which was stimulating the electrodes on his muscles 158 00:09:50,415 --> 00:09:52,809 that then led to his arm moving. 159 00:09:52,853 --> 00:09:55,595 That's a pretty cool feeling.Actually, it's a little bit painful. 160 00:09:55,638 --> 00:09:58,467 I'm gonna turn it back down. [laughing]Don't hurt yourself, Greg. 161 00:09:58,510 --> 00:10:02,036 It was the most evident version of control. 162 00:10:02,079 --> 00:10:04,821 So we're gonna switch it up now. So, I'm gonna take the electrodes off you. 163 00:10:04,865 --> 00:10:06,649 And I will be in control of your free will. 164 00:10:08,782 --> 00:10:10,827 You're gonna relax your hand here. 165 00:10:10,871 --> 00:10:13,221 I'm gonna hook up on the other side. 166 00:10:13,264 --> 00:10:16,659 And I'm gonna turn this on. So, I have you on 2. 167 00:10:16,703 --> 00:10:19,227 I can just turn it up a little bit more. 168 00:10:19,270 --> 00:10:20,881 Now, you can look away. 169 00:10:29,541 --> 00:10:33,154 [Quinto] Coming up... I'm in Michigan, at a laboratory called Backyard Brains. 170 00:10:33,197 --> 00:10:36,853 My search to uncover whether mind control is possible 171 00:10:36,897 --> 00:10:39,856 has led me to neuroscientist Greg Gage. 172 00:10:39,900 --> 00:10:41,641 This is called a "neural prosthetic." 173 00:10:41,684 --> 00:10:43,468 [Quinto] With the help of a small computer, 174 00:10:43,512 --> 00:10:45,862 I seized control of Greg's body. 175 00:10:45,906 --> 00:10:48,386 You want to see what it's like to be out of control? All right.Yeah. 176 00:10:48,430 --> 00:10:50,084 Now it's my turn. 177 00:10:50,127 --> 00:10:52,216 I will be in control of your free will. 178 00:10:52,260 --> 00:10:54,392 [Quinto] My only fear is, what is it gonna do to me? 179 00:10:57,961 --> 00:11:01,225 And I'm going to turn this on. So, you're going to feel a little bit tingly. 180 00:11:01,269 --> 00:11:04,054 I already feel something.Your hand is going to naturally want to turn. 181 00:11:04,098 --> 00:11:05,708 All right. So, that's-- that's the-- 182 00:11:05,752 --> 00:11:09,669 Oh! [laughing] So... [laughing] 183 00:11:09,712 --> 00:11:12,149 You don't know when I'm going to do it, but I'm going to do it whenever I want. 184 00:11:12,193 --> 00:11:14,151 So, you have lost your free will. 185 00:11:14,195 --> 00:11:16,284 [laughs] Isn't that weird? 186 00:11:19,461 --> 00:11:23,987 It felt like these snaps. Like pebbles being thrown against my brain. 187 00:11:24,031 --> 00:11:26,120 What if I try to resist?You can try to resist it. 188 00:11:26,163 --> 00:11:28,165 You're gonna notice that this finger is gonna go first. 189 00:11:28,209 --> 00:11:30,559 [Quinto] It makes me understand how technology exists 190 00:11:30,602 --> 00:11:32,474 to get into people's heads. 191 00:11:32,517 --> 00:11:35,912 Is there anything about this work which has a dark side? 192 00:11:35,956 --> 00:11:38,828 I mean--One of the biggest fears people have 193 00:11:38,872 --> 00:11:42,789 when they hear about brain control is, uh-- 194 00:11:42,832 --> 00:11:46,009 is the idea of someone surreptitiously recording from your brain 195 00:11:46,053 --> 00:11:47,750 or being able to read what you're doing. 196 00:11:47,794 --> 00:11:51,362 All of your thoughts and desires are all held inside of here. 197 00:11:51,406 --> 00:11:52,929 If you can control something with your mind, 198 00:11:52,973 --> 00:11:54,626 then someone might be able to read from your stuff. 199 00:11:54,670 --> 00:11:56,933 You weren't controlling your arm, right? 200 00:11:56,977 --> 00:11:59,544 My brain was controlling your arm, and so that made-- 201 00:11:59,588 --> 00:12:01,764 You lost your free will. Could that happen surreptitiously? 202 00:12:01,808 --> 00:12:03,679 Could someone all of a sudden command someone else 203 00:12:03,723 --> 00:12:05,942 to shoot somebody or do something evil, right? 204 00:12:05,986 --> 00:12:08,597 For example, the top neuroscientists in the world 205 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,165 are implanting monkeys with electrodes inside their brain--Wow. 206 00:12:11,208 --> 00:12:14,385 ...and now humans as well. 207 00:12:14,429 --> 00:12:16,779 [Quinto] That's the same thing James is talking about 208 00:12:16,823 --> 00:12:21,523 in terms of being targeted and having these implants 209 00:12:21,566 --> 00:12:26,049 and chips in his body that were interrupting 210 00:12:26,093 --> 00:12:28,312 his own motor function. 211 00:12:28,356 --> 00:12:33,013 That gets back to the point of all the myth and mystery 212 00:12:33,056 --> 00:12:37,017 around brain function and how it comprises a human being. 213 00:12:37,060 --> 00:12:39,106 But when you really break it down, 214 00:12:39,149 --> 00:12:42,631 it's able to be manipulated and interrupted as a result. 215 00:12:44,633 --> 00:12:46,591 Greg's technology is one way 216 00:12:46,635 --> 00:12:49,290 to manipulate the brain of another human. 217 00:12:49,333 --> 00:12:53,163 But what if this capability fell into the wrong hands? 218 00:12:53,207 --> 00:12:55,339 Recent reports have surfaced, 219 00:12:55,383 --> 00:12:58,647 describing how other nations are creating cutting-edge devices 220 00:12:58,690 --> 00:13:03,304 that allow humans to control the minds of others remotely, 221 00:13:03,347 --> 00:13:04,784 without their knowledge. 222 00:13:09,049 --> 00:13:12,617 In 2017, reports began to surface 223 00:13:12,661 --> 00:13:15,620 that dozens of American diplomats stationed in Cuba 224 00:13:15,664 --> 00:13:19,755 were experiencing bizarre injuries, such as vertigo, 225 00:13:19,799 --> 00:13:24,194 hearing loss, and brain damage consistent with a concussion. 226 00:13:24,238 --> 00:13:27,197 And in 2018, similar reports emerged 227 00:13:27,241 --> 00:13:29,721 from a U.S. official in China. 228 00:13:29,765 --> 00:13:33,900 All medically confirmed cases have described some combination of symptoms 229 00:13:33,943 --> 00:13:37,860 beginning within minutes to hours of their exposure of the event. 230 00:13:37,904 --> 00:13:41,255 [Quinto] An investigation by the FBI in the Cuban incident 231 00:13:41,298 --> 00:13:44,867 revealed the diplomats may have been the target of a sonic weapon 232 00:13:44,911 --> 00:13:49,306 capable of using sound waves to inflict brain injuries. 233 00:13:49,350 --> 00:13:52,570 Do we know what they can do to protect themselves from these sorts of injuries? 234 00:13:52,614 --> 00:13:55,138 Senator, I don't think we can say categorically 235 00:13:55,182 --> 00:13:58,968 that we can guarantee that they would be safe from this. 236 00:13:59,012 --> 00:14:03,668 [Quinto] Unexplained incidents like these are on the rise around the world, 237 00:14:03,712 --> 00:14:08,412 and I want to hear what it's like to be a victim of this strange phenomenon. 238 00:14:08,456 --> 00:14:11,502 So I've located a man who survived a similar sonic attack 239 00:14:11,546 --> 00:14:14,854 while he was stationed in Cuba back in 2014. 240 00:14:14,897 --> 00:14:17,378 It's nice to meet you. Good to meet you. 241 00:14:21,295 --> 00:14:24,211 when he experienced something truly horrifying. [Quinto] Four years ago, 242 00:14:24,254 --> 00:14:27,910 As I understand it, you were in Cuba in 2014? That's right. 243 00:14:30,347 --> 00:14:33,873 Within five minutes of laying down on the bed to go to sleep, 244 00:14:33,916 --> 00:14:37,354 a weird sensation in my feet and my hands 245 00:14:37,398 --> 00:14:40,836 began to gradually grow, from the tip of the fingers, 246 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,665 down through my hands, forearms, 247 00:14:43,708 --> 00:14:47,495 through the calves, that really woke me up. 248 00:14:47,538 --> 00:14:50,280 I wasn't able to concentrate at that point. 249 00:14:50,324 --> 00:14:53,936 So, it went into my face, ears, back of my neck. 250 00:14:53,980 --> 00:14:56,939 Exact same story the next day. 251 00:14:56,983 --> 00:15:01,944 At that point, I kind of freaked out and beelined to the airport. 252 00:15:01,988 --> 00:15:04,947 To be clear, you were staying in the same hotel 253 00:15:04,991 --> 00:15:09,734 where these diplomats were experiencing similar symptoms that you had. 254 00:15:09,778 --> 00:15:12,999 That's right. I used the travel agent who recommended the hotel 255 00:15:13,042 --> 00:15:15,305 because the hotel had just come out of renovation. 256 00:15:15,349 --> 00:15:17,481 Do you feel, from your experience, 257 00:15:17,525 --> 00:15:20,963 like this was something that was targeted? 258 00:15:21,007 --> 00:15:23,705 I'm not a conspiracy theorist by nature, but you got a hotel 259 00:15:23,748 --> 00:15:27,013 full of people for four years now, 260 00:15:27,056 --> 00:15:30,016 from other countries, that have no issues. 261 00:15:30,059 --> 00:15:32,714 If you have a hotel in which hundreds of people are staying every night, 262 00:15:32,757 --> 00:15:35,630 and over the course of this time, 20-some people, 263 00:15:35,673 --> 00:15:39,373 all of whom are diplomats, are experiencing these physical symptoms-- 264 00:15:39,416 --> 00:15:41,636 I mean, there's nothing accidental about that. 265 00:15:44,291 --> 00:15:47,381 [Allen] Some people think that if there was some sonic attack, 266 00:15:47,424 --> 00:15:51,515 they were still testing out whatever the technology was when I was there. 267 00:15:51,559 --> 00:15:53,953 I've never heard anything like this. 268 00:15:53,996 --> 00:15:57,608 The idea that this could be a whole new branch 269 00:15:57,652 --> 00:16:00,002 of mind control-- 270 00:16:00,046 --> 00:16:02,744 You know, that's the darker side of what we're talking about 271 00:16:02,787 --> 00:16:05,355 in the applications of this kind of stuff. 272 00:16:06,704 --> 00:16:08,880 If sound is being weaponized 273 00:16:08,924 --> 00:16:13,189 to damage or hijack the human mind, how does it work? 274 00:16:13,233 --> 00:16:16,497 There are sound waves that vibrate at such extreme frequencies, 275 00:16:16,540 --> 00:16:18,238 humans can't hear them. 276 00:16:18,281 --> 00:16:20,544 Some believe these waves are powerful enough 277 00:16:20,588 --> 00:16:23,025 to penetrate the skull 278 00:16:23,069 --> 00:16:27,073 and interrupt millions of neuron connections inside the brain. 279 00:16:27,116 --> 00:16:29,162 Could something as common as sound 280 00:16:29,205 --> 00:16:32,121 be the key to controlling the human mind? 281 00:16:38,954 --> 00:16:43,132 To find out, I'm heading to Arizona State University's 282 00:16:43,176 --> 00:16:45,874 Biological and Health Systems Engineering Lab, 283 00:16:45,917 --> 00:16:48,529 where Dr. Jamie Tyler is exploring 284 00:16:48,572 --> 00:16:51,488 how high-frequency sound waves called "ultrasound" 285 00:16:51,532 --> 00:16:53,708 can be used to manipulate the brain. 286 00:16:56,058 --> 00:16:58,365 The story that recently came out of Cuba. 287 00:16:58,408 --> 00:17:00,541 Diplomats that were working in Cuba-- 288 00:17:00,584 --> 00:17:04,675 Right....were experiencing unexplained physical symptoms, 289 00:17:04,719 --> 00:17:08,679 and it's been talked about in terms of a sonar attack. 290 00:17:08,723 --> 00:17:11,856 There's lots of people around the world that have their own theories about what happened. 291 00:17:11,900 --> 00:17:14,468 A lot of people say that ultrasound cannot affect brain activity. 292 00:17:14,511 --> 00:17:17,036 That's wrong. We can't hear the ultrasou frequencies.Mm-hmm. 293 00:17:17,079 --> 00:17:19,342 But what's really dangerous about it, 294 00:17:19,386 --> 00:17:22,084 when you can't hear it, is you don't know how loud it is.Right. 295 00:17:22,128 --> 00:17:24,391 [jet engine whooshes] And so, it can be 140 decibels-- 296 00:17:24,434 --> 00:17:27,263 so as loud as a jet engine-- but you cannot hear it. 297 00:17:27,307 --> 00:17:30,440 But the air pressure is still 140 decibels. 298 00:17:30,484 --> 00:17:33,052 I know that there was a kind of range of symptoms-- 299 00:17:33,095 --> 00:17:35,141 Yeah....some of which were auditory. 300 00:17:35,184 --> 00:17:37,099 And headaches, which you can produce with ultrasound.And headaches, yeah. 301 00:17:37,143 --> 00:17:39,101 So, as soon as I heard about the story, to me, 302 00:17:39,145 --> 00:17:41,756 it was pretty obvious that ultrasound was one of the candidates 303 00:17:41,799 --> 00:17:44,150 that you would suspect at creating those types of problems, 304 00:17:44,193 --> 00:17:46,761 even if it was airborne. 305 00:17:46,804 --> 00:17:50,982 [Quinto] But Dr. Tyler and his team have been researching ways 306 00:17:51,026 --> 00:17:55,117 ultrasound can actually boost brain performance. 307 00:17:55,161 --> 00:17:57,772 [Dr. Tyler] We're going to put you on a treadmill and see if we can make you fall. 308 00:17:57,815 --> 00:17:59,643 Really? See if you can make me fall?Yeah. Yeah. 309 00:17:59,687 --> 00:18:01,863 It's a treadmill that's designed to trick your body 310 00:18:01,906 --> 00:18:03,734 and brain circuits, and get you to fall.Okay. 311 00:18:05,127 --> 00:18:07,347 I'll be put to the test 312 00:18:07,390 --> 00:18:10,741 to see how sound waves can control my mind. 313 00:18:10,785 --> 00:18:14,049 We'll hook you up and get your brain stimulated with some transcranial-focused ultrasound. 314 00:18:14,093 --> 00:18:17,922 [technicians chattering][device beeping] 315 00:18:17,966 --> 00:18:20,316 [Quinto] Dr. Tyler and his team will give me 316 00:18:20,360 --> 00:18:23,798 a dose of ultrasound at key areas of my brain-- 317 00:18:23,841 --> 00:18:26,322 [Dr. Tyler] That's the ultrasound now. It transmits through your skin. 318 00:18:26,366 --> 00:18:29,804 ...which should affect the neurons controlling balance and coordination. 319 00:18:29,847 --> 00:18:32,546 This is so crazy.Isn't it crazy? 320 00:18:32,589 --> 00:18:37,464 Dr. Tyler has been conducting this type of research for over ten years. 321 00:18:37,507 --> 00:18:41,163 In the majority of cases, when someone tries to walk the treadmill, 322 00:18:41,207 --> 00:18:44,819 they stumble and sometimes fall within seconds. 323 00:18:44,862 --> 00:18:48,475 However, with a boost of ultrasound altering my mind, 324 00:18:48,518 --> 00:18:52,131 Dr. Tyler believes I should be able to stay on the treadmill no matter what happens. 325 00:18:54,568 --> 00:18:56,309 [Dr. Tyler] It's a quite advanced treadmill 326 00:18:56,352 --> 00:18:58,920 that allows us to do motion tracking of your body, 327 00:18:58,963 --> 00:19:01,531 and allow you to interact in a virtual environment. 328 00:19:01,575 --> 00:19:03,838 You're good to step up there. 329 00:19:03,881 --> 00:19:07,102 [Quinto] My brain has never been zapped with ultrasound. 330 00:19:07,146 --> 00:19:09,887 And I've never been strapped into a jerry-rigged treadmill before. 331 00:19:09,931 --> 00:19:11,628 [clicks]All right. Good. 332 00:19:11,672 --> 00:19:13,935 My goal is to just walk normally?Just walk normally. 333 00:19:13,978 --> 00:19:17,591 Will my mind be sharpened by the intense power of sound waves? 334 00:19:17,634 --> 00:19:18,809 [man] 335 00:19:18,853 --> 00:19:20,071 Go for it. 336 00:19:21,595 --> 00:19:23,205 [click] 337 00:19:26,208 --> 00:19:28,558 Make him go faster. 338 00:19:28,602 --> 00:19:31,082 Increasing the speed.Increase the pitch and try to mess him up. 339 00:19:32,432 --> 00:19:34,434 Whoa.There you go. 340 00:19:37,915 --> 00:19:39,569 [Quinto] What the hell? 341 00:19:43,878 --> 00:19:45,184 Aah![laughs] 342 00:19:46,315 --> 00:19:47,490 [yells] 343 00:19:55,106 --> 00:19:58,414 Recent reports indicate governments around the world 344 00:19:58,458 --> 00:20:01,330 may be developing top secret sonic weapons 345 00:20:01,374 --> 00:20:05,682 capable of controlling the human mind using only sound. 346 00:20:05,726 --> 00:20:09,730 I want to understand how sound waves can manipulate our brains, 347 00:20:09,773 --> 00:20:12,950 so Dr. Tyler is putting me through a revolutionary experiment. 348 00:20:12,994 --> 00:20:15,431 Now what we're gonna do is we're gonna try to stimulate your brain. 349 00:20:15,475 --> 00:20:17,825 [Quinto] After giving me a powerful dose of ultrasound 350 00:20:17,868 --> 00:20:20,262 to the part of my brain regulating balance, 351 00:20:20,306 --> 00:20:22,438 coordination, and motor function-- 352 00:20:22,482 --> 00:20:27,051 Make him go faster.Whoa. What the hell? 353 00:20:27,095 --> 00:20:30,707 ...Dr. Tyler has placed me on a virtual reality treadmill 354 00:20:30,751 --> 00:20:32,753 that makes most people stumble and fall. 355 00:20:32,796 --> 00:20:34,537 Aah! [yells] 356 00:20:34,581 --> 00:20:36,800 But he believes ultrasound waves 357 00:20:36,844 --> 00:20:38,802 can help sharpen my mind, 358 00:20:38,846 --> 00:20:41,022 allowing me to stay on my feet. 359 00:20:46,114 --> 00:20:47,507 That's it. 360 00:20:50,771 --> 00:20:53,382 [Quinto] Dr. Tyler's data suggests I should have fallen 361 00:20:53,426 --> 00:20:56,037 when I navigated the course on the treadmill.Okay. 362 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,952 But I didn't fall.All right. Goooo 363 00:20:57,995 --> 00:21:01,216 He believes the dose of ultrasound allowed my brain 364 00:21:01,260 --> 00:21:03,784 to maintain my balance and coordination 365 00:21:03,827 --> 00:21:05,438 better than it normally would. 366 00:21:07,657 --> 00:21:10,138 In a sense, it is a way of interrupting 367 00:21:10,181 --> 00:21:13,794 someone's natural relationship with their own brain. 368 00:21:13,837 --> 00:21:17,580 Yeah.Are there any potential drawbacks or side effects 369 00:21:17,624 --> 00:21:20,191 that you've noticed in your studies that are concerning? 370 00:21:20,235 --> 00:21:21,976 You know, there are some ethical issues. 371 00:21:22,019 --> 00:21:24,500 Before we got to the point where we were using ultrasound 372 00:21:24,544 --> 00:21:27,242 to modulate human brain activity, we did a lot of safety studies. 373 00:21:27,286 --> 00:21:30,332 Ultrasound certainly can be used in a negative way, 374 00:21:30,376 --> 00:21:32,203 and that is a little concerning to me, 375 00:21:32,247 --> 00:21:33,814 'cause when people are using sonic weapons, 376 00:21:33,857 --> 00:21:37,992 it kind of changes the landscape. 377 00:21:38,035 --> 00:21:41,517 [Quinto] I feel like it is a version of mind control, 378 00:21:41,561 --> 00:21:44,477 and I think it's a very real example 379 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,263 of how technology allows us to get inside someone's head. 380 00:21:50,831 --> 00:21:54,008 If the incident involving American diplomats in Cuba 381 00:21:54,051 --> 00:21:58,447 was some form of mind control attack using a sonic weapon, 382 00:21:58,491 --> 00:22:01,145 I want to know who could be behind it. 383 00:22:01,189 --> 00:22:05,280 And what does one of these weapons actually sound like? 384 00:22:05,324 --> 00:22:08,239 To find out, I'm meeting with Alex Berezow, 385 00:22:08,283 --> 00:22:10,851 a science writer who's been investigating the Cuban incident 386 00:22:10,894 --> 00:22:14,550 to see who could carry out such a bold attack. 387 00:22:14,594 --> 00:22:18,685 You studied the sonic attacks that took place in Cuba last year. 388 00:22:18,728 --> 00:22:21,470 Have you come up with any ideas 389 00:22:21,514 --> 00:22:25,039 about who did this and/or why they might've done this? 390 00:22:25,082 --> 00:22:28,999 What we do know is that in 2014, the Russians are back in Cuba. 391 00:22:29,043 --> 00:22:33,221 They closed down one of their spy bases in 2001 because of financial reasons. 392 00:22:33,264 --> 00:22:35,266 They reopened it in 2014. 393 00:22:35,310 --> 00:22:39,053 We also know that they have a long penchant for poisoning people. 394 00:22:39,096 --> 00:22:41,360 They've poisoned spies in Britain. 395 00:22:45,407 --> 00:22:48,279 It's completely possible that Russians are behind it. 396 00:22:48,323 --> 00:22:53,110 It's interesting that you say it was 2014 when the Russians came back, 397 00:22:53,154 --> 00:22:56,113 and the idea that maybe this was some kind of a-- 398 00:22:56,157 --> 00:22:59,203 Guinea pig?Exactly. Some kind of a beta phase-- 399 00:22:59,247 --> 00:23:01,249 Yeah....of the operation. 400 00:23:01,292 --> 00:23:04,905 Correct.It's U.S. diplomats being targeted. 401 00:23:04,948 --> 00:23:08,430 People that have government affiliation. 402 00:23:08,474 --> 00:23:12,913 It would seem to imply that it was on purpose and not accidental. 403 00:23:12,956 --> 00:23:16,177 It's not common for people to have concussions 404 00:23:16,220 --> 00:23:19,006 and signs of some sort of severe distress, 405 00:23:19,049 --> 00:23:22,923 and for no one to have any idea what's causing it. 406 00:23:22,966 --> 00:23:25,795 Do you have an example of what the people 407 00:23:25,839 --> 00:23:27,841 who heard something might have heard? I do. 408 00:23:30,452 --> 00:23:33,237 Is it okay for us to listen to it?Uh, we might handle it 409 00:23:33,281 --> 00:23:34,543 for a few seconds.Uh-huh. 410 00:23:37,503 --> 00:23:40,027 Are you ready?I guess so. 411 00:23:50,820 --> 00:23:53,170 [high-pitched static sound] 412 00:23:56,913 --> 00:23:58,393 [high-pitched static sound continues] 413 00:24:11,188 --> 00:24:12,363 [sound stops] 414 00:24:12,407 --> 00:24:14,714 That's really unsettling. It's-- 415 00:24:14,757 --> 00:24:18,065 It feels, to me, like a form of brainwashing, in a way. 416 00:24:18,108 --> 00:24:20,720 It's a form of psychological warfare. 417 00:24:20,763 --> 00:24:25,159 If you know that you're going to be assaulted if you were just going to do your job, 418 00:24:25,202 --> 00:24:27,466 you may not want to do it if you know that-- "My goodness, 419 00:24:27,509 --> 00:24:29,511 "I might go to Cuba and come back with a concussion, 420 00:24:29,555 --> 00:24:31,600 and I don't know what caused it." 421 00:24:31,644 --> 00:24:34,255 That's scary. 422 00:24:34,298 --> 00:24:39,303 I think this is a new form of terrorism that we will see more of. 423 00:24:39,347 --> 00:24:41,697 [Quinto] Psychological warfare 424 00:24:41,741 --> 00:24:45,135 waged with 21st century sonic weapons 425 00:24:45,179 --> 00:24:49,444 may be the newest form of mind control. 426 00:24:49,488 --> 00:24:52,186 But this kind of mental manipulation 427 00:24:52,229 --> 00:24:56,016 can trace its roots back to the ancient art of voodoo. 428 00:24:56,059 --> 00:24:59,541 For centuries, voodoo priests would perform bizarre rituals 429 00:25:01,238 --> 00:25:04,546 and dismember dolls 430 00:25:04,590 --> 00:25:07,418 to unleash dark spirits many believed 431 00:25:07,462 --> 00:25:09,464 could penetrate an enemy's brain 432 00:25:09,508 --> 00:25:13,424 and inflict maximum psychological harm. 433 00:25:13,468 --> 00:25:17,167 But in recent years, these psychological warfare techniques 434 00:25:17,211 --> 00:25:20,475 have given way to more modern methods of mind control, 435 00:25:20,519 --> 00:25:23,478 such as brainwashing. 436 00:25:25,828 --> 00:25:28,178 There is evidence that they actually believe 437 00:25:28,222 --> 00:25:30,746 that Charles Manson is Jesus Christ. 438 00:25:30,790 --> 00:25:34,881 [Quinto] Experts believe some of the most notorious cults 439 00:25:34,924 --> 00:25:38,798 and terrorist groups in history were formed by brainwashing. 440 00:25:38,841 --> 00:25:43,019 In 1978, People's Temple founder, Jim Jones, 441 00:25:43,063 --> 00:25:46,893 brainwashed nearly 1,000 members of his cult to kill themselves... 442 00:25:49,417 --> 00:25:52,594 because he believed U.S. intelligence agencies 443 00:25:52,638 --> 00:25:54,596 were planning to invade his Jonestown commune. 444 00:26:03,649 --> 00:26:05,868 [Quinto] He convinced all of his members 445 00:26:05,912 --> 00:26:09,176 to drink Kool-Aid laced with cyanide. 446 00:26:09,219 --> 00:26:12,962 Could this have been a case of mind control? 447 00:26:13,006 --> 00:26:16,836 In recent years, leaders of the ISIS terrorist group 448 00:26:16,879 --> 00:26:19,882 have brainwashed countless followers to blow themselves up 449 00:26:19,926 --> 00:26:22,102 in suicide missions around the world 450 00:26:22,145 --> 00:26:24,626 to advance their ideology. 451 00:26:24,670 --> 00:26:26,933 David LaPorte believes these leaders 452 00:26:26,976 --> 00:26:29,805 force their followers to commit the ultimate sacrifice 453 00:26:29,849 --> 00:26:32,373 by relying on key brainwashing techniques 454 00:26:32,416 --> 00:26:36,203 refined by evil manipulators over the centuries. 455 00:26:36,246 --> 00:26:39,641 Studies identified a number of elements that lead to better brainwashing. 456 00:26:39,685 --> 00:26:41,338 You isolate the individuals. 457 00:26:41,382 --> 00:26:43,166 You give them message repeatedly. 458 00:26:43,210 --> 00:26:45,299 You deprive them of something. 459 00:26:45,342 --> 00:26:48,258 So, you make them cold, or you don't feed them adequately, 460 00:26:48,302 --> 00:26:49,912 you don't give them enough water. 461 00:26:49,956 --> 00:26:51,653 And you also induce high emotion. 462 00:26:51,697 --> 00:26:54,047 The outside environment can exert 463 00:26:54,090 --> 00:26:58,660 a tremendous influence in very powerful ways. 464 00:26:58,704 --> 00:27:02,359 [Quinto] So, how do evil individuals control the minds 465 00:27:02,403 --> 00:27:04,448 of vulnerable people around the world? 466 00:27:08,714 --> 00:27:11,542 To find out, I've located someone 467 00:27:11,586 --> 00:27:15,198 who mastered this mind control technique to recruit new members 468 00:27:15,242 --> 00:27:18,158 to join one of the most dangerous terrorist groups on earth. 469 00:27:18,201 --> 00:27:21,117 [car door alarm dinging] 470 00:27:21,161 --> 00:27:24,686 I understand that you have a pretty unique background. 471 00:27:24,730 --> 00:27:26,949 You know, in 1998, 472 00:27:26,993 --> 00:27:29,691 a previously unknown guy named Osama bin Laden 473 00:27:29,735 --> 00:27:32,694 emerged on the jihadist scene, 474 00:27:32,738 --> 00:27:35,784 calling on attacks against the Jews and the crusaders. 475 00:27:35,828 --> 00:27:38,831 And we wanted to answer the call. 476 00:27:38,874 --> 00:27:41,137 [Quinto] Mubin Shaikh was a recruiter for Al Qaeda 477 00:27:41,181 --> 00:27:45,664 from 1995 until the 9/11 attacks in 2001, 478 00:27:45,707 --> 00:27:47,883 when he deserted his terror cell and became 479 00:27:47,927 --> 00:27:50,538 a counterintelligence informant, 480 00:27:50,581 --> 00:27:54,150 sharing his insider knowledge to prevent future attacks. 481 00:27:54,194 --> 00:27:56,500 [sirens wailing] 482 00:27:56,544 --> 00:27:59,765 With incidents on the rise worldwide, 483 00:27:59,808 --> 00:28:03,377 I want to know if Mubin can shed light on how brainwashing techniques 484 00:28:03,420 --> 00:28:06,510 are being used to control the actions of terrorists. 485 00:28:08,599 --> 00:28:13,126 In terms of the mentality of a terrorist organization 486 00:28:13,169 --> 00:28:16,695 and how they recruit and condition people-- 487 00:28:16,738 --> 00:28:18,958 I mean, there has to be some kind of element 488 00:28:19,001 --> 00:28:21,612 of mind control or manipulation in that process. 489 00:28:21,656 --> 00:28:24,703 Extremist groups of any kind-- far right, jihadists-- 490 00:28:27,967 --> 00:28:29,708 They look for certain people. 491 00:28:29,751 --> 00:28:31,753 People who are searching for something. 492 00:28:31,797 --> 00:28:34,800 Searching for meaning, belonging, a family. 493 00:28:34,843 --> 00:28:36,889 Those were the people that we would target deliberately, 494 00:28:36,932 --> 00:28:39,413 because we knew that they were in that vulnerable state. 495 00:28:45,375 --> 00:28:47,247 [men shouting] 496 00:28:47,290 --> 00:28:49,771 In terms of the mind control we've been exploring, 497 00:28:49,815 --> 00:28:54,167 it feels very much like what he both experienced and then perpetrated, 498 00:28:54,210 --> 00:28:55,864 in some ways, was a kind of brainwashing. 499 00:29:01,696 --> 00:29:04,003 There's the psychology of terrorist acts. 500 00:29:04,046 --> 00:29:08,050 How is it seen that destroying property and lives 501 00:29:08,094 --> 00:29:10,444 is furthering a cause? 502 00:29:10,487 --> 00:29:14,665 Media gives terrorism a longevity it might not otherwise enjoy. 503 00:29:14,709 --> 00:29:18,365 That's the idea of terrorism as theater. 504 00:29:18,408 --> 00:29:23,544 When we see these images, we are actually reinforcing that idea 505 00:29:23,587 --> 00:29:25,633 that extremist groups understand very well-- 506 00:29:25,676 --> 00:29:28,723 is that fear really motivates people. 507 00:29:28,767 --> 00:29:31,595 And extremist groups know what the fear will do. 508 00:29:31,639 --> 00:29:34,207 It works. 509 00:29:34,250 --> 00:29:35,556 And it's as simple as that, and they know it. 510 00:29:39,603 --> 00:29:42,215 It's not the number of people that are killed. 511 00:29:42,258 --> 00:29:50,092 It's the number of people that are watching. 512 00:29:50,136 --> 00:29:53,269 [Shaikh] [Quinto] The group that I went with, their whole mantra, if you will, 513 00:29:53,313 --> 00:29:56,359 is "If you want to change the world, you do it with this," and he picked up the AK-47. 514 00:29:56,403 --> 00:29:58,274 Right. And what did it do to you in that moment? 515 00:29:58,318 --> 00:30:01,147 I was bit by the jihadi bug. 516 00:30:01,190 --> 00:30:04,280 [Quinto] I'm in Austin, Texas, meeting with Mubin Shaikh, 517 00:30:04,324 --> 00:30:07,501 a former Islamic terrorist who fled his cell 518 00:30:07,544 --> 00:30:10,199 to become an informant for law enforcement. 519 00:30:10,243 --> 00:30:12,506 Do you have any pictures of yourself when you were undercover? 520 00:30:12,549 --> 00:30:15,988 Yeah. This is me for almost 15 years. 521 00:30:16,031 --> 00:30:19,165 Yeah, you look like--Look like the Taliban. 522 00:30:19,208 --> 00:30:22,777 Black turban, long beard, long robes. 523 00:30:22,821 --> 00:30:25,432 [Quinto] I've seen how mind control 524 00:30:25,475 --> 00:30:28,130 has been used by leaders throughout history 525 00:30:28,174 --> 00:30:32,047 to manipulate small groups of followers. 526 00:30:32,091 --> 00:30:35,616 But while Mubin was with Al Qaeda, he used brainwashing methods 527 00:30:35,659 --> 00:30:37,966 which controlled thousands of terrorists. 528 00:30:38,010 --> 00:30:40,316 I want to know the secrets behind these techniques, 529 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,362 which are powerful enough to convince members 530 00:30:42,405 --> 00:30:44,668 to carry out heinous missions, 531 00:30:44,712 --> 00:30:47,584 even if it terminates their own lives. 532 00:30:47,628 --> 00:30:51,414 So, I'm interested in the psychology of these acts of violence 533 00:30:51,458 --> 00:30:54,287 when they involve pushing someone past 534 00:30:54,330 --> 00:30:55,897 their normal instinct for survival. 535 00:30:55,941 --> 00:30:59,031 To get them over that is difficult. 536 00:30:59,074 --> 00:31:02,425 The number one thing you have to do is to convince the person, 537 00:31:02,469 --> 00:31:05,167 not necessarily that they want to die, 538 00:31:05,211 --> 00:31:07,517 but where they're gonna go after they die, 539 00:31:07,561 --> 00:31:11,260 playing on their insecurities and convincing them that, 540 00:31:11,304 --> 00:31:14,220 in fact, they're off to a better place. 541 00:31:14,263 --> 00:31:17,440 Number two, the mission has to be a holy mission. 542 00:31:17,484 --> 00:31:20,182 It has to transcend beyond this world. 543 00:31:20,226 --> 00:31:22,968 They must be convinced that actually they are doing the right thing. 544 00:31:23,011 --> 00:31:26,101 Because they know that this is actually the wrong thing. 545 00:31:26,145 --> 00:31:28,016 [sirens wailing] 546 00:31:32,586 --> 00:31:34,936 [Quinto] Mubin has helped me uncover the secrets behind 547 00:31:34,980 --> 00:31:38,853 the mind control techniques used by Al Qaeda 548 00:31:38,897 --> 00:31:42,988 and other terrorist and cult organizations. 549 00:31:43,031 --> 00:31:45,207 But I've also seen compelling evidence 550 00:31:45,251 --> 00:31:48,645 about how cutting-edge technology, such as implants-- 551 00:31:48,689 --> 00:31:53,041 I had been drugged and implanted in my own home.Oh! 552 00:31:53,085 --> 00:31:57,959 ...computers, even sound waves, can control the human mind. 553 00:31:58,003 --> 00:32:01,049 It went into my face, ears, back of my neck. 554 00:32:01,093 --> 00:32:03,225 [Quinto] So all of this makes me wonder: 555 00:32:03,269 --> 00:32:07,360 is it possible for someone else to take control of my brain 556 00:32:07,403 --> 00:32:10,058 using nothing more than their mind and the power of suggestion? 557 00:32:14,845 --> 00:32:18,849 To find out, I'm going head-to-head with Matt Cooper, 558 00:32:18,893 --> 00:32:21,591 a mentalist who has spent decades 559 00:32:21,635 --> 00:32:25,030 mastering the dark art of manipulating other people's thoughts 560 00:32:25,073 --> 00:32:28,076 and reading their minds. 561 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,427 Matt's goal is to show me what it's like to experience 562 00:32:31,471 --> 00:32:34,953 total mind control. 563 00:32:34,996 --> 00:32:38,565 He's going to attempt to control my thoughts. 564 00:32:38,608 --> 00:32:40,306 You are a mentalist? 565 00:32:40,349 --> 00:32:42,177 Mentalist, mind reader, thought reader. 566 00:32:42,221 --> 00:32:45,006 A mentalist replicates extraordinary mental powers 567 00:32:45,050 --> 00:32:47,835 using techniques of illusion and some psychology. 568 00:32:47,878 --> 00:32:49,532 Do you believe in mind control? 569 00:32:49,576 --> 00:32:51,099 Oh, mind control? Absolutely. 570 00:32:51,143 --> 00:32:53,319 I think that there are ways to manipulate people. 571 00:32:53,362 --> 00:32:57,584 You are eliciting a feeling in someone through suggestion. 572 00:32:57,627 --> 00:33:00,500 In your daily life, when you interact with people, 573 00:33:00,543 --> 00:33:04,243 are there ways that you can benefit from techniques like this? 574 00:33:04,286 --> 00:33:07,594 Yes, there are certain techniques that you can use 575 00:33:07,637 --> 00:33:09,509 that will allow you to have an edge 576 00:33:09,552 --> 00:33:12,860 to take advantage of people, which is a very powerful thing. 577 00:33:12,903 --> 00:33:17,734 But we're talking about more nefarious applications of this stuff. 578 00:33:17,778 --> 00:33:21,695 Do you look back at-- I don't know-- famous cult leaders and, say, 579 00:33:21,738 --> 00:33:24,350 like, you can see techniques that they've used? 580 00:33:24,393 --> 00:33:27,875 Uh, historical examples, with Hitler getting people to do atrocious acts 581 00:33:27,918 --> 00:33:30,269 and convince them that it's the right thing to do. 582 00:33:30,312 --> 00:33:32,793 I mean, it's not really my area of expertise, because I have chosen 583 00:33:32,836 --> 00:33:35,230 the good side, I guess you could say, but-- 584 00:33:35,274 --> 00:33:37,972 The white magic version of it.Yeah. I suppose, yeah. 585 00:33:38,016 --> 00:33:41,193 Should we put this into practice a little bit?Try something? Yeah, absolutely. 586 00:33:41,236 --> 00:33:44,500 [Quinto] Matt will put his mind control powers to the test 587 00:33:44,544 --> 00:33:46,937 through a series of demonstrations. 588 00:33:46,981 --> 00:33:49,853 I'm more interested in more specific information. 589 00:33:49,897 --> 00:33:52,030 Things that come from your history. All right? 590 00:33:52,073 --> 00:33:54,815 So I want you to think of anything you want. 591 00:33:54,858 --> 00:33:58,210 Could be a person, a place, an object. 592 00:33:58,253 --> 00:34:00,864 Whatever you want, but it has to have some meaning to you. 593 00:34:00,908 --> 00:34:02,301 Does that make sense? Okay. Mm-hmm. 594 00:34:02,344 --> 00:34:04,259 You've got something? Okay. Yeah. 595 00:34:04,303 --> 00:34:08,742 Look at me and just picture this thing. 596 00:34:08,785 --> 00:34:11,571 Maybe interact with it. If it's a person, say hello to this person. 597 00:34:11,614 --> 00:34:14,400 If it's a place, see yourself in this place. 598 00:34:14,443 --> 00:34:16,402 Okay. Hold on. Just, you know, stand up for me. 599 00:34:18,752 --> 00:34:20,971 Uh, right there is fine. Shoulders back. 600 00:34:21,015 --> 00:34:23,322 Take a deep breath in. 601 00:34:23,365 --> 00:34:25,585 Let it out. 602 00:34:25,628 --> 00:34:27,935 So... 603 00:34:27,978 --> 00:34:30,111 you thinking of a place?Mm-hmm. 604 00:34:30,155 --> 00:34:31,634 Yes?Mm-hmm. 605 00:34:34,507 --> 00:34:37,684 Do palaces make any sense to you? Because that's the image I'm getting. 606 00:34:37,727 --> 00:34:40,078 Like grand palaces, gardens, that kind of thing.Sure. 607 00:34:40,121 --> 00:34:42,950 Mosques, even?Sure. 608 00:34:42,993 --> 00:34:48,434 So, we're talking about a location somewhere, um, with a Muslim-leaning side. 609 00:34:48,477 --> 00:34:50,827 Mm-hmm.Um, Morocco? Does that make sense? 610 00:34:50,871 --> 00:34:52,525 Yeah. Sure.Yes? I think I have it. 611 00:34:52,568 --> 00:34:54,483 Okay.Um, this is a place that you visited recently? 612 00:34:54,527 --> 00:34:57,051 Mm-hmm.Yeah? Um... 613 00:34:57,095 --> 00:34:59,358 I hope you had a good time in Marrakesh. Yes?[muttering] 614 00:34:59,401 --> 00:35:00,750 [laughing] 615 00:35:00,794 --> 00:35:05,364 So weird. You guys, it's so weird. 616 00:35:05,407 --> 00:35:09,063 Like, he didn't tell me to choose a place. He told me to choose anything. 617 00:35:09,107 --> 00:35:12,588 I could've chosen my dog or a car or-- 618 00:35:12,632 --> 00:35:15,548 I mean, I could've chosen anything. How would he have known that? 619 00:35:15,591 --> 00:35:18,768 Is a part of this about manipulating me 620 00:35:18,812 --> 00:35:21,771 to give the answers away? 621 00:35:21,815 --> 00:35:25,340 We're always giving up information, constantly.Uh-huh. Uh-huh. 622 00:35:25,384 --> 00:35:27,255 It's in our nature to give up information. Right. 623 00:35:27,299 --> 00:35:30,345 Part of it is picking up on things that you're giving away. 624 00:35:30,389 --> 00:35:33,000 But some of the time it's not. Sometimes it's just a trick--Mm-hmm. 625 00:35:33,043 --> 00:35:35,394 ...designed to look like I'm picking up on things.Mm-hmm. 626 00:35:35,437 --> 00:35:38,266 I may be able to teach you how to read my thoughts, 627 00:35:38,310 --> 00:35:41,443 wherein, I'm kind of helping you, but you wouldn't be aware of it. 628 00:35:41,487 --> 00:35:43,663 [Quinto] Matt has set up a test. 629 00:35:43,706 --> 00:35:46,448 We'll each get a matching set of five cards. 630 00:35:46,492 --> 00:35:48,842 We'll need to put down those cards one at a time-- 631 00:35:48,885 --> 00:35:51,061 him first, and then me. 632 00:35:51,105 --> 00:35:52,976 You take those. There's five there. 633 00:35:53,020 --> 00:35:55,065 [Quinto] With Matt employing a form of mind control 634 00:35:55,109 --> 00:35:57,329 to get me to place cards on the table 635 00:35:57,372 --> 00:35:59,200 in the same order he does. 636 00:35:59,244 --> 00:36:01,637 You can mix them up if you like. 637 00:36:01,681 --> 00:36:04,640 [Quinto] If it works, all five of our cards 638 00:36:04,684 --> 00:36:06,947 should end up in the exact same order. 639 00:36:06,990 --> 00:36:10,168 Three out of five would be considered psychic. 640 00:36:19,264 --> 00:36:21,266 [Quinto] I'm with Matt Cooper, 641 00:36:21,309 --> 00:36:23,355 a mentalist who's perfected his ability 642 00:36:23,398 --> 00:36:26,358 to manipulate the thoughts of other people, 643 00:36:26,401 --> 00:36:28,925 not with computers and sound waves, 644 00:36:28,969 --> 00:36:31,101 but only his mind. 645 00:36:37,456 --> 00:36:40,415 I'm gonna through these and kind of-- kind of choose them at random, 646 00:36:40,459 --> 00:36:42,330 and I'll try and send them to you. Yeah. 647 00:36:42,374 --> 00:36:44,071 So, don't think of one yet.Okay. 648 00:36:44,114 --> 00:36:45,812 I'll put one down first.[cards rustling] 649 00:36:45,855 --> 00:36:48,075 Okay. Look at me. 650 00:36:48,118 --> 00:36:53,515 Allow yourself to just see all the shapes in your mind. 651 00:36:53,559 --> 00:36:57,171 I want just one of the symbols to kind of present itself to you. 652 00:36:57,215 --> 00:37:00,914 You don't choose it, it just shows itself. 653 00:37:00,957 --> 00:37:04,047 All right. I can see that you have it. 654 00:37:04,091 --> 00:37:07,616 Put it facedown. I've already put mine down, so I can't change mine. 655 00:37:07,660 --> 00:37:10,358 Have a look at them again. Same feeling. 656 00:37:10,402 --> 00:37:12,578 Just allow-- Okay. Hold on. 657 00:37:12,621 --> 00:37:16,103 Now, you thought of two. But there's a sense of doubt with the first one. 658 00:37:16,146 --> 00:37:18,279 I want you to go back to the first one you thought of.Okay. 659 00:37:18,323 --> 00:37:20,020 All right. Put that one down. 660 00:37:21,674 --> 00:37:23,241 All right? 661 00:37:25,982 --> 00:37:28,768 Three left. Just jumble them up in your head. 662 00:37:28,811 --> 00:37:31,466 Just kind of see them kind of jumbling up. 663 00:37:31,510 --> 00:37:33,686 Look at me. That one there. Just put one down now. 664 00:37:33,729 --> 00:37:35,731 Just put one down. Don't think about it. Put one down. 665 00:37:35,775 --> 00:37:38,168 All right. There's two left. 666 00:37:38,212 --> 00:37:41,084 I'm trying to choose. How about this one? 667 00:37:41,128 --> 00:37:44,479 All right. Go ahead. Put one down. 668 00:37:44,523 --> 00:37:47,177 Stop. You have to feel as if you know it to be true. 669 00:37:47,221 --> 00:37:50,006 Okay? So don't worry about getting it wrong. You already know what it is. 670 00:37:50,050 --> 00:37:51,573 Uh-huh.So put it down. 671 00:37:51,617 --> 00:37:53,749 That's the last one.Uh-huh. 672 00:37:56,491 --> 00:37:59,189 The odds of getting all of them right is very unlikely. 673 00:37:59,233 --> 00:38:01,975 Um, but just pick them up. We're gonna deal them down from the top, okay? 674 00:38:02,018 --> 00:38:03,759 Same-- From the top.Wait. From here? 675 00:38:03,803 --> 00:38:04,934 Yeah, from the top.Okay. 676 00:38:04,978 --> 00:38:07,807 So the last one was a circle. 677 00:38:09,678 --> 00:38:12,290 So far, so good.So far, so good. 678 00:38:12,333 --> 00:38:14,379 And then we had... 679 00:38:14,422 --> 00:38:15,858 [chuckling, muttering] 680 00:38:15,902 --> 00:38:18,165 Square. 681 00:38:18,208 --> 00:38:20,950 [chuckling][chuckling] You-- 682 00:38:20,994 --> 00:38:23,170 You realize if this one's right, that's all five, right? 683 00:38:23,213 --> 00:38:25,694 Yeah.I'll put mine down first. 684 00:38:25,738 --> 00:38:28,654 That's all five.Oh, dude, that's so crazy! 685 00:38:28,697 --> 00:38:33,311 There it is.That is so crazy. 686 00:38:33,354 --> 00:38:36,836 The thing that really threw me was the cards. 687 00:38:36,879 --> 00:38:41,449 'Cause I'm sitting there like, if I'm looking for something, I don't know what I'm looking for. 688 00:38:41,493 --> 00:38:45,584 And there were times when I just was like, "It's the cross. 689 00:38:45,627 --> 00:38:48,369 It's the cross. It's the cross." 690 00:38:48,413 --> 00:38:50,415 And I just went with it like he told me to, 691 00:38:50,458 --> 00:38:53,374 and I just believed that I could do it. 692 00:38:53,418 --> 00:38:57,247 So, I mean, it was pretty impressive to me, I have to say. 693 00:38:57,291 --> 00:38:58,988 It's a bit of a superpower, in a way. 694 00:38:59,032 --> 00:39:01,904 You were somehow helping me 695 00:39:01,948 --> 00:39:05,734 to arrive at this order of cards. 696 00:39:05,778 --> 00:39:07,780 Were there things that you were doing 697 00:39:07,823 --> 00:39:10,391 to trigger my unconscious mind-- 698 00:39:10,435 --> 00:39:13,351 Mm-hmm....to know what shapes you were putting down? 699 00:39:13,394 --> 00:39:15,396 If you're thinking about mentalism, you don't really want to think 700 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,616 in terms of magical thinking, and illusion, tricks like that, 701 00:39:17,659 --> 00:39:19,139 but you want to think psychologically. 702 00:39:19,182 --> 00:39:21,359 Always just about reading signals. Okay. 703 00:39:21,402 --> 00:39:23,361 There are other things at play 704 00:39:23,404 --> 00:39:25,754 that allow me to gather information about you 705 00:39:25,798 --> 00:39:27,974 that isn't just about you communicating them unconsciously. 706 00:39:28,017 --> 00:39:30,759 Obviously, there is something to it. 707 00:39:30,803 --> 00:39:35,329 He's employing techniques-- suggesting and, like, planting seeds-- 708 00:39:35,373 --> 00:39:37,505 that I could feel him employing, 709 00:39:37,549 --> 00:39:40,160 even though I didn't know what they were. 710 00:39:40,203 --> 00:39:44,425 The mystery of the human brain and how to manipulate it 711 00:39:44,469 --> 00:39:49,430 continues to perplex and terrify mankind to this day. 712 00:39:49,474 --> 00:39:54,522 And while history has shown us that powerful forces of both good and evil 713 00:39:54,566 --> 00:39:59,092 may have already mastered the ability to control our minds, 714 00:39:59,135 --> 00:40:02,138 the future of our civilization may well depend 715 00:40:02,182 --> 00:40:05,098 on our ability to defend against these dark forces 716 00:40:05,141 --> 00:40:06,969 at all costs. 717 00:40:07,013 --> 00:40:12,453 Otherwise, we may be entering an era 718 00:40:12,497 --> 00:40:16,370 where are thoughts may never again be entirely our own. 719 00:40:16,420 --> 00:40:20,970 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 62045

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