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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,033 Edited at https://subtitletools.com 2 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:29,540 Everything changed for me the day Damilola Taylor died. 3 00:00:30,100 --> 00:00:32,540 That was it, that changed everything. 4 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,200 I remember the day vividly. 5 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:48,940 I came off the bus and 6 00:00:48,940 --> 00:00:52,960 literally, as soon as I got off the bus, I could see a blue flashing light 7 00:00:53,460 --> 00:00:57,620 and then obviously as I got closer, it became more brighter 8 00:00:57,740 --> 00:01:01,680 and they locked off this whole road and the police officer just told me: 9 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,880 'You can’t come here, a kid just died.' 10 00:01:05,500 --> 00:01:11,740 So I got home now and then just opened the door and my mum was like, 11 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,380 she was just shouting out my Nigerian name, which I’m not gonna say, 12 00:01:16,380 --> 00:01:20,620 and she’s just looking at the TV and she’s just … 13 00:01:22,940 --> 00:01:29,720 She was just crying, like just eyes watering and then Damilola Taylor’s mum started talking 14 00:01:30,060 --> 00:01:34,360 and then she just, she just started crying for no reason, 15 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:39,380 like just literally crying on her knees and she probably, I think she grabbed my little brother 16 00:01:39,380 --> 00:01:42,600 and hugged him and she just said 'that could’ve been one of you guys.' 17 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,680 (TV presenter): Police are hunting for the killers of a 10-year old boy 18 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,240 who was stabbed to death on his way home from school earlier today. 19 00:01:49,940 --> 00:01:52,880 Nigerian-born Damilola Taylor crawled up these steps 20 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,680 on a housing estate in Peckham, south London, 21 00:01:56,460 --> 00:01:58,820 in a desperate attempt to escape his attackers. 22 00:01:59,220 --> 00:02:02,460 He was still wearing his school uniform when he died. 23 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:18,660 Damilola Taylor, a 10-year-old boy from the same country my parents are from, died. 24 00:02:20,300 --> 00:02:21,440 That could have been me. 25 00:02:22,740 --> 00:02:27,240 And that’s what scared my mum the most. It could have been any one of us. 26 00:02:30,420 --> 00:02:33,440 Two months later … My mum moved us out of London. 27 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,820 I remember the day we moved and … 28 00:02:44,920 --> 00:02:47,880 like it’s like one of those happy memories because … 29 00:02:49,020 --> 00:02:52,520 I remember when my dad, he’s a very silent person so when he was 30 00:02:52,940 --> 00:02:55,500 kind of telling people where to go and what to do I was just like, 31 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:57,100 'yeah, that’s my dad.' 32 00:03:05,420 --> 00:03:10,220 I remember us sitting in the back seat and I was seeing the whole of Peckham 33 00:03:10,220 --> 00:03:13,220 just flash by right behind my eyes and like you see the mosque, 34 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,220 the big Peckham library, the churches … 35 00:03:17,640 --> 00:03:18,780 It was my London. 36 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:20,840 My multicultural London. 37 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,860 So we keep going and keep going and all I see is horses, 38 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,360 I see cows, like … 39 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:32,360 What, where are we going? 40 00:03:33,580 --> 00:03:37,440 And then, you know when you’re driving and you get the speed limits 41 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,700 and it’s the three bars and then it’s two, then one 42 00:03:40,700 --> 00:03:42,480 and so I’m just looking at that 43 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,100 and looking at that and it’s like yeah, yeah, yeah 44 00:03:45,140 --> 00:03:47,520 and that’s it, pitch black and I’m asleep. 45 00:03:48,540 --> 00:03:53,180 Wake up now. I see this house and I, like, that my house. 46 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,680 I remember my dad just grabbing me just like 'you better behave yourself.' 47 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,880 The first week I was there I just stayed inside my house, 48 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:14,980 I didn't really go out. 49 00:04:14,980 --> 00:04:16,040 I didn’t want to do much. 50 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,920 And then one day my mum just asked me to go the shops for her. 51 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:25,440 I remember walking out my house 52 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,360 and walking down this long path. 53 00:04:32,660 --> 00:04:34,700 And all I saw was white people. 54 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,440 Like literally just different shades of white. 55 00:04:50,020 --> 00:04:54,700 So I go to the shop and when I enter the shop, everyone keeps looking at me, 56 00:04:54,700 --> 00:05:00,020 like staring at me, and then the cashier just gave me this kind of like, 57 00:05:01,840 --> 00:05:05,520 'what are you' and I was just like 'OK, cool.' 58 00:05:08,900 --> 00:05:12,880 So next thing, you know, I finish buying what I need to buy from the shop, 59 00:05:13,060 --> 00:05:17,620 and I walk down the road and all I hear is: 60 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,260 'Oi nigger!' 61 00:05:23,500 --> 00:05:24,000 What? 62 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,360 'Oi nigger!' 63 00:05:30,060 --> 00:05:34,520 I look up and I see a little boy calling me a nigger. 64 00:05:36,500 --> 00:05:39,840 And then he looks at me, just stares at me and starts making monkey sounds. 65 00:05:39,840 --> 00:05:41,900 Oo oo oo oo oo oo oo. 66 00:05:58,740 --> 00:06:03,300 I basically got home and I just - I just kept it to myself. 67 00:06:05,260 --> 00:06:07,680 I could’ve told my mum, 'hey, the area you’ve move us to, 68 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:08,860 they're kind of racist, 69 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:13,420 is there any way you can get a return on the house that you’ve just paid for?' 70 00:06:13,420 --> 00:06:15,140 And just, you know, send us back.' 71 00:06:15,660 --> 00:06:18,940 And I can’t go to my dad telling him someone called me a nigger 72 00:06:19,020 --> 00:06:20,680 because he’s going to think I’m weak 73 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,980 and if I cry in front of my dad, he’s going to think I’m even weaker. 74 00:06:26,020 --> 00:06:27,560 At that age I was … 75 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,800 I was trying to look up to my dad, I was trying to be a man, 76 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,400 I was trying to get my dad’s love, and my dad’s affection 77 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,080 and I just really wanted my dad to love me. 78 00:06:36,540 --> 00:06:38,240 And it’s not like he didn’t love me, 79 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,840 he just had a very hard way of showing it 80 00:06:41,460 --> 00:06:44,180 and at that age, I didn’t wanna show him any kind of weakness. 81 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,000 I remember when I was young, like, 82 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:54,780 whenever we, you know, got my dad angry, he would like, he would beat his chest as 83 00:06:54,780 --> 00:06:56,880 loud as he possibly could and say, 84 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:01,420 'I’m a lion, do you know what a lion is? He’s a king of the jungle. 85 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:03,500 This means you can’t mess with a lion.' 86 00:07:04,620 --> 00:07:06,200 And I just got that in my system. 87 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,380 If he’s a lion then I must be the son of the lion 88 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:13,060 and I can’t show weakness so I just went into my room, 89 00:07:13,060 --> 00:07:14,060 I closed the door, 90 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:20,280 I just screamed as loud as I possibly could but with nothing coming out my mouth. 91 00:07:46,940 --> 00:07:49,760 I soon realised that the area that we lived in 92 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,480 was run by these two families. 93 00:08:00,900 --> 00:08:02,380 These people just looked … 94 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,660 I know this sounds really weird to say but when you … 95 00:08:09,540 --> 00:08:12,640 Is it possible to say that you can see bad in someone 96 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,300 by just looking at them? 97 00:08:25,460 --> 00:08:28,560 The guy who was in charge at the time, I wish I could say his name 98 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,420 but I’m not going to, 99 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,360 he just does this and does that. 100 00:08:42,420 --> 00:08:45,880 I just felt 'oh crap.' It doesn’t get better, does it? 101 00:08:54,860 --> 00:08:58,980 First fight I got into was with a kid at school, a white kid. 102 00:08:59,580 --> 00:09:01,560 But the way they fight, compared to London, 103 00:09:01,560 --> 00:09:02,720 is completely different. 104 00:09:03,140 --> 00:09:05,020 So in London if you want to fight someone, 105 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:06,920 you grab them, you just instant, 106 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,460 as in instant punch, you make someone angry, boom. 107 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:16,240 In Essex they were like 'meet me round the alleyway, round the back 108 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:17,940 and me and you are going to go at it.' 109 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:21,620 'Okay, yeah, I’ll do that.' 110 00:09:21,620 --> 00:09:24,440 So basically, we organise the fight. 111 00:09:27,700 --> 00:09:29,060 It was on a large field 112 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:36,440 and I just see like a crowd of white people in a circle 113 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,980 and as soon as I enter they kind of open the thing 114 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:41,260 and was like 'is this him? Is this him?' 115 00:09:41,420 --> 00:09:42,560 Get away you black cunt. 116 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:44,220 Fuck off! 117 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:45,640 Why the fuck are you over here boy? 118 00:09:45,740 --> 00:09:46,380 Why are you over here? 119 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:47,140 Why are you over here? 120 00:09:56,820 --> 00:10:01,120 And next thing you know, the kid just comes up to me and then, 121 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,760 boom, I dropped to the floor. 122 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,020 Everything went black. 123 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,100 This little kid just goes, 124 00:10:13,100 --> 00:10:17,120 boom, boom, boom on my face and I swear to you I didn’t feel a single thing. 125 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,080 And all I heard was 'come on man, come on, hit him.' 126 00:10:23,740 --> 00:10:24,800 'Hit the black cunt.' 127 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:29,920 'Hit the nigger, hit the wog, hit him right in the face, hit him.' 128 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:31,540 'Harder, harder.' 129 00:10:35,180 --> 00:10:36,740 They were enjoying me get hit. 130 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:41,500 I froze. 131 00:10:42,700 --> 00:10:46,840 So I just let him carry on hitting me, carry on hitting me until he was finished. 132 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,520 I remember just them making the same way they parted 133 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,220 for me to enter is the same way they parted for me to leave 134 00:11:05,380 --> 00:11:10,880 but like they were following me, and they were like, 'go on, go away then, 135 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,640 go on, get out of our country, go on leave us alone, leave us alone, 136 00:11:14,680 --> 00:11:18,900 see I told you I’d have him, I told you I’d have him, next time the black cunt gets lairy.' 137 00:11:24,340 --> 00:11:27,640 I was just scared man, just scared. 138 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,080 I remember like … 139 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:44,660 My eyes, just, I remember them being puffy like up to here. 140 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:53,880 And I remember just, going into the sink and I’m just trying to … 141 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,200 I don’t know why I thought it could wash it away. 142 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:08,460 I just started crying. 143 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:22,660 I never cried like that before you know, you know those deep in held cries. 144 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,040 I remember … 145 00:12:29,420 --> 00:12:29,920 Sorry. 146 00:12:33,100 --> 00:12:38,520 I remember hearing my mum, footsteps slowly coming up the stairs. 147 00:12:42,620 --> 00:12:44,000 She saw me, 148 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:49,360 her eyes were like that, and she just started speaking 149 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:53,200 in her native tongue and she started saying, 150 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:59,360 'my life, my life, my life, what have I done? Who done this to my son?' 151 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,340 She blamed my dad because she felt like, 152 00:13:09,340 --> 00:13:15,100 if he was at home then he would’ve known where I was going or he would’ve heard it 153 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:20,880 and he could’ve stopped it but because he wasn’t there, you know, 154 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,020 she blamed him for that. 155 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,920 In a way, he felt like she was right because 156 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:37,160 he should’ve been Superman right? That’s what dads are mean to be 157 00:13:37,620 --> 00:13:41,320 and like he wasn’t able to do that and … 158 00:13:46,620 --> 00:13:51,120 I think that added to more of their problems, which added to more of my problems. 159 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,120 He basically quit his job in London after that 160 00:13:57,500 --> 00:14:00,020 and he started looking for work around the area. 161 00:14:02,180 --> 00:14:04,040 But it didn’t really work out. 162 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:06,980 And that put a strain on a family. 163 00:14:09,180 --> 00:14:11,120 My dad became a very angry person. 164 00:14:14,740 --> 00:14:15,760 (Interviewer): Did he hurt you? 165 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,320 Yeah, but it’s cool. 166 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:59,440 After I lost that fight, I just said to myself, 167 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,380 the only way I’m gonna survive is if I fit in, 168 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:05,960 if I become like them. 169 00:15:06,820 --> 00:15:11,460 So I did whatever I needed to do to fit into a group of people 170 00:15:11,460 --> 00:15:13,920 who hated the colour of my skin. 171 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:21,740 I started with my clothing, I would literally save all my dinner money up, 172 00:15:21,740 --> 00:15:24,820 starve myself, literally I turned into a little twig. 173 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:30,680 Just so I could buy all the latest clothing, like Lionel Scott, McKenzie hoodie, tracksuits 174 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:35,940 and anything I would see all the big top guys wearing. 175 00:15:35,940 --> 00:15:39,600 That’s what I wanted to wear. And then next thing you know, 176 00:15:39,620 --> 00:15:42,720 it went to the hair, you know, at the time they had 177 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:43,720 the little spiky, 178 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,180 the spiky hair was the thing back in the day so I literally 179 00:15:47,180 --> 00:15:49,800 would buy this thing called, it’s a texturising cream 180 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:50,960 that would straighten your hair. 181 00:15:52,460 --> 00:15:54,120 And then I just got the, the accent, 182 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,480 and I just like started putting a bit of a swing on it like, 183 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:58,640 'you all right mate?' 184 00:15:58,820 --> 00:15:59,500 And they’re like, 185 00:16:00,300 --> 00:16:03,080 'yeah mate it’s me, how you doing? You all right? 186 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:04,140 You want to go for a pint?' 187 00:16:05,220 --> 00:16:08,240 So I was just talking like them I was like, 'yeah, I want to be like you.' 188 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:10,160 After that, 189 00:16:10,580 --> 00:16:12,000 I remember thinking to myself, 190 00:16:12,140 --> 00:16:13,920 the perfect white man has blue eyes. 191 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,800 So, I said F it I want blue eyes too. 192 00:16:18,020 --> 00:16:20,860 So I went to a local shop and I bought the brightest 193 00:16:20,860 --> 00:16:22,380 blue contact lenses I could find. 194 00:16:24,500 --> 00:16:27,860 And the final thing I did was I bleached my skin. 195 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,680 I remember the first time I did it, I remember putting a load on my hand 196 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,800 and going like that and looking at my skin in the mirror like, 197 00:16:36,340 --> 00:16:37,460 'am I light yet?' 198 00:16:37,540 --> 00:16:39,360 And I’m not light, so I put some more on. 199 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,000 Next thing you know I wake up in the morning and my skin is 200 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,360 a tiny bit lighter I’m like 'wow.' 201 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:47,620 I had enough on to be … 202 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:53,720 It’s not even like I wanted to be white, I just wanted to fit in and if it meant being 203 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,540 like white people then, let's do it. 204 00:17:42,220 --> 00:17:48,360 Over time I started to become friends with, I guess the racists and the families 205 00:17:48,360 --> 00:17:50,180 and I guess all the people 206 00:17:50,180 --> 00:17:53,980 who didn’t like black people in the area. I became friends with them. 207 00:17:58,360 --> 00:17:59,780 I wasn’t a threat any more. 208 00:18:00,820 --> 00:18:05,020 I was just a black kid who wanted to be like them. 209 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,000 To fit in I felt like I had to … 210 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,160 I had to keep silent, I had to not talk on some things 211 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:30,500 that I thought were important things, and certain situations and certain predicaments 212 00:18:30,500 --> 00:18:35,640 I would just find a way to side the white people. 213 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,880 We had a situation one time where we were walking down, 214 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,800 we were about to go to a little party with my mates 215 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:53,400 and the white and black guys got into a little, you know, 216 00:18:54,300 --> 00:18:55,280 altercation. 217 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:02,760 You fucking run away you cunt. 218 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:03,660 I’m running away. 219 00:19:03,660 --> 00:19:04,880 Go back to fucking Africa. 220 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,680 And he said something, he was like, 221 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,640 'He’s a fucking nigger, 222 00:19:10,120 --> 00:19:11,960 he’s a fucking black cunt.' 223 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,220 It was like, 'not you Cornelius, I’m not talking about you, 224 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:16,760 I’m talking about your friend.' 225 00:19:19,300 --> 00:19:23,840 And in that moment I just like, I’m not proud of it, I just said, 226 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,040 'yeah, cool, I get it.' 227 00:19:28,660 --> 00:19:30,640 But these are my friends, so what am I meant to say? 228 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,000 (Interviewer): What did you say? 229 00:19:33,380 --> 00:19:37,220 I didn’t say anything. There wasn’t anything for me to say. 230 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,300 We started smashing houses, we started smashing cars. 231 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,160 It got very violent. 232 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:00,640 But I enjoyed it. 233 00:20:02,220 --> 00:20:07,020 It let me get rid of all the pain, all the anger I was feeling for my dad, 234 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:08,340 so I liked it. 235 00:20:19,100 --> 00:20:21,220 Do you want to know like the weirdest thing? 236 00:20:24,660 --> 00:20:28,740 The only thing I wish as a like 10-year-old kid back then was … 237 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,300 I just wanted my dad to love me, you know. 238 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:36,060 But … 239 00:20:36,420 --> 00:20:39,380 I feel that he was hurt a lot and I though he … 240 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:41,460 … he hurt us a lot. 241 00:20:42,700 --> 00:20:43,500 So I hurt a lot. 242 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:45,620 Leave him alone! 243 00:20:57,580 --> 00:20:59,700 I just kind of feel like… 244 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:10,900 Like, why? Why do you, why would you do that? 245 00:21:12,260 --> 00:21:13,560 Like, why? 246 00:21:17,380 --> 00:21:20,040 And it just pisses me off because like … 247 00:21:23,100 --> 00:21:26,280 I just don’t feel like you should treat people like that. 248 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:33,400 It really bothers me because it’s just like, like it really messed me up. 249 00:21:39,060 --> 00:21:40,900 We went out on a rampage one night. 250 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:48,520 And there was this guy on a bike, and I don’t know what came over me but 251 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,560 I just punched him for no reason. 252 00:21:50,740 --> 00:21:52,780 He didn’t say anything, just punched him. 253 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:54,420 And then he dropped. 254 00:21:55,700 --> 00:21:57,400 And then I remember seeing him on the floor 255 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,640 and then I just kicked his head. 256 00:22:00,980 --> 00:22:06,720 But when I kicked his head, he screamed from the top of his lungs 257 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,760 and I just remember seeing his face and it just cave in and he was just like, 258 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,300 (screams) 259 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,580 Do you feel guilty? 260 00:23:02,060 --> 00:23:05,920 Yeah, I … Yeah, I feel guilty, I feel guilty. 261 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:12,400 But, I felt like, I felt like I was accepted. 262 00:23:13,700 --> 00:23:16,080 All right, you show it like that and you butt it like … 263 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,520 You don’t want to butt it off cause it’s bare wet and it’s horrible. 264 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:20,980 Yeah that’s it! 265 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,320 You’re talking about, a black kid 266 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:34,400 being accepted by racists and they were cool with me, like, me of all people. 267 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:38,580 And it felt good. 268 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:10,380 It felt good. 269 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,820 I wanted love. I wanted to feel love. 270 00:24:48,580 --> 00:24:51,800 So yeah ... Just made friends with monsters. 23099

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