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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:18,585 --> 00:00:20,820 - [Female narrator] The story started a few years ago, 2 00:00:20,820 --> 00:00:23,156 in a thrift store in Canada, 3 00:00:23,156 --> 00:00:26,393 when this Australian guy called Chris, 4 00:00:26,393 --> 00:00:33,099 bought a record for 10 cents that changed his whole life. 5 00:00:34,034 --> 00:00:36,703 But in reality, 6 00:00:36,703 --> 00:00:39,773 the story started much earlier, 7 00:00:39,773 --> 00:00:43,143 almost 40 years ago in Jamaica. 8 00:00:43,143 --> 00:00:45,245 Here in this building, 9 00:00:45,245 --> 00:00:48,548 in west Kingston's Waterhouse neighborhood. 10 00:00:49,883 --> 00:00:52,218 (Electronic dub music) Jamaicans are very special. 11 00:00:52,218 --> 00:00:54,487 We can take nothing, 12 00:00:54,487 --> 00:00:56,256 and turn it into something. 13 00:00:56,523 --> 00:00:59,659 (Dub music) 14 00:00:59,659 --> 00:01:02,362 This is where dub music was invented. 15 00:01:02,362 --> 00:01:03,997 This is where the idea, 16 00:01:03,997 --> 00:01:07,067 of the remix was invented, 17 00:01:07,067 --> 00:01:10,904 by the experiments of the great engineer, 18 00:01:10,904 --> 00:01:12,172 King Tubby. 19 00:01:13,506 --> 00:01:16,810 He was one of the first to use his mixing board, 20 00:01:16,810 --> 00:01:18,645 as an instrument, 21 00:01:18,645 --> 00:01:21,648 reworking simple reggae songs, 22 00:01:21,648 --> 00:01:25,218 into a thousand different versions, 23 00:01:25,218 --> 00:01:28,788 stripping the music back to its bare bones. 24 00:01:29,689 --> 00:01:33,093 Pulling it apart and putting it back together. 25 00:01:33,093 --> 00:01:34,594 To tell entirely, 26 00:01:34,594 --> 00:01:37,630 different stories. 27 00:01:37,630 --> 00:01:39,833 Some people say that the word "dub", 28 00:01:39,833 --> 00:01:41,668 comes from "duppy", 29 00:01:41,668 --> 00:01:43,603 which in Jamaica means ghost, 30 00:01:43,603 --> 00:01:45,238 or spirit. 31 00:01:46,906 --> 00:01:49,976 Whispers, echoes of a voice, 32 00:01:49,976 --> 00:01:52,946 or a memory that has been hidden, 33 00:01:52,946 --> 00:01:54,514 or lost, 34 00:01:54,514 --> 00:01:58,451 fight their way above the din of horns, 35 00:01:58,451 --> 00:02:00,620 of drums and bass, 36 00:02:00,620 --> 00:02:04,557 and reverb until just as quickly, 37 00:02:04,557 --> 00:02:06,626 they are gone, 38 00:02:06,626 --> 00:02:09,162 fading back into the silence. 39 00:02:09,162 --> 00:02:10,130 (Dub music) 40 00:02:10,130 --> 00:02:12,799 But not all duppies are bad. 41 00:02:13,766 --> 00:02:15,535 It could be that Chris, 42 00:02:15,535 --> 00:02:17,303 became haunted by a voice, 43 00:02:17,303 --> 00:02:20,006 which would not leave him alone. 44 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:22,842 But enough of that. 45 00:02:22,842 --> 00:02:25,211 Over to Chris in Toronto. 46 00:02:25,211 --> 00:02:27,814 (Up tempo dub music) 47 00:02:29,149 --> 00:02:31,151 - [Chris] I'm a music fanatic. 48 00:02:31,151 --> 00:02:32,185 Music's as close as I get, 49 00:02:32,185 --> 00:02:34,721 to anything spiritual or religious. 50 00:02:34,721 --> 00:02:36,789 In high school, music was my obsession. 51 00:02:36,789 --> 00:02:39,359 We traded mix tapes hand to hand. 52 00:02:39,359 --> 00:02:41,494 CDs were an escape to another world. 53 00:02:41,494 --> 00:02:43,596 I even started a shitty band. 54 00:02:43,596 --> 00:02:45,098 Then I discovered records. 55 00:02:46,266 --> 00:02:48,067 When I go into a thrift store or flea market, 56 00:02:48,067 --> 00:02:50,203 I'm almost in a trance digging through crates, 57 00:02:50,203 --> 00:02:52,772 imagining what new piece of music I might discover, 58 00:02:54,507 --> 00:02:56,242 I'm also an artist. 59 00:02:56,242 --> 00:02:58,444 I like transforming boring everyday materials, 60 00:02:58,444 --> 00:03:00,013 into things that move and grow, 61 00:03:00,013 --> 00:03:01,548 into magical objects. 62 00:03:01,548 --> 00:03:03,950 I want to create new worlds from my imagination. 63 00:03:05,585 --> 00:03:07,520 I must have heard a hundred thousand songs, 64 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:08,888 and easily that many records, 65 00:03:08,888 --> 00:03:11,824 has passed through my hands over the years. 66 00:03:11,824 --> 00:03:13,193 The music that really obsesses me, 67 00:03:13,193 --> 00:03:15,562 is old reggae music from the 70's and 80's. 68 00:03:15,562 --> 00:03:16,729 And this city is full of it. 69 00:03:16,729 --> 00:03:18,865 (reggae music) 70 00:03:18,865 --> 00:03:20,466 This record here, 71 00:03:20,466 --> 00:03:23,469 is the most incredible piece of music I've ever heard. 72 00:03:23,469 --> 00:03:25,371 It was released in Toronto by a label called, 73 00:03:25,371 --> 00:03:26,940 Monica's Records. 74 00:03:26,940 --> 00:03:29,275 One of the last remaining reggae stores in operation, 75 00:03:29,275 --> 00:03:30,443 since the 70's. 76 00:03:31,344 --> 00:03:33,046 The singer's voice is so unusual, 77 00:03:33,046 --> 00:03:34,013 it's so haunting, 78 00:03:34,013 --> 00:03:35,682 I've become so obsessed with her, 79 00:03:35,682 --> 00:03:37,116 but I don't know anything about her, 80 00:03:37,116 --> 00:03:39,152 or who she is. 81 00:03:39,152 --> 00:03:40,787 Imagine finding a Nina Simone, 82 00:03:40,787 --> 00:03:41,654 a Billie Holiday, 83 00:03:41,654 --> 00:03:42,889 or an Amy Winehouse, 84 00:03:42,889 --> 00:03:45,225 but you're the only one whose ever heard her. 85 00:03:45,225 --> 00:03:46,025 All I know is, 86 00:03:46,025 --> 00:03:48,928 She's somebody called "Shella Record". 87 00:03:48,928 --> 00:03:50,029 And so far no one seems to know, 88 00:03:50,029 --> 00:03:51,631 anything about her. 89 00:03:52,498 --> 00:03:55,435 There's something magical and powerful about this voice, 90 00:03:55,435 --> 00:03:57,470 that you just cannot deny. 91 00:03:57,470 --> 00:03:59,439 I don't care if you like reggae or not. 92 00:03:59,439 --> 00:04:00,940 If it doesn't make you feel something, 93 00:04:00,940 --> 00:04:03,343 you might just want to check you've still got a pulse. 94 00:04:03,343 --> 00:04:05,511 (Jamaican Fruit of African Roots" by Shella Record) 95 00:04:05,678 --> 00:04:11,251 # Ooooooh, Yeah, yeah, eah, eah, eah # 96 00:04:19,025 --> 00:04:20,660 # We came # 97 00:04:20,660 --> 00:04:25,298 # From a distant land # 98 00:04:25,298 --> 00:04:30,303 # Our lives already planned # 99 00:04:31,904 --> 00:04:33,473 # We came in ships # 100 00:04:33,473 --> 00:04:38,278 # From across the sea # 101 00:04:38,278 --> 00:04:40,880 # And never again our home # 102 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,584 # We'd see # 103 00:04:44,584 --> 00:04:49,589 # And now we've become # 104 00:04:51,057 --> 00:04:56,062 # Jamaican fruit # 105 00:04:57,497 --> 00:05:01,567 # Of African roots # 106 00:05:01,567 --> 00:05:07,307 # Me wan' fi forward on a yard # 107 00:05:07,473 --> 00:05:12,312 # Me wan' fi forward on a yard # 108 00:05:15,148 --> 00:05:16,716 [Chris]- I need to know what happened, 109 00:05:16,716 --> 00:05:18,017 to Shella Record. 110 00:05:23,690 --> 00:05:26,359 Okay so let's address the white elephant in the room. 111 00:05:27,260 --> 00:05:29,329 I'm a pasty guy from Australia, 112 00:05:30,196 --> 00:05:32,198 making a film about my obsession, 113 00:05:32,198 --> 00:05:35,435 with a Jamaican woman who sings a song about slavery. 114 00:05:37,003 --> 00:05:37,837 I'm not gonna say some bullshit about, 115 00:05:37,837 --> 00:05:39,906 how I don't see color, 116 00:05:39,906 --> 00:05:40,973 or any nonsense like that. 117 00:05:42,342 --> 00:05:44,644 I'm benefiting from the same system, 118 00:05:44,644 --> 00:05:46,346 of white supremacy today, 119 00:05:46,346 --> 00:05:49,415 that resulted in slavery in the first place. 120 00:05:49,415 --> 00:05:51,951 It doesn't make any difference how progressive I think I am, 121 00:05:51,951 --> 00:05:53,653 or how many black friends I have. 122 00:05:55,288 --> 00:05:57,390 So why am I doing this? 123 00:05:57,390 --> 00:06:00,393 I honestly am not 100% sure. 124 00:06:00,393 --> 00:06:03,396 But, no song has ever made me feel like this, 125 00:06:03,396 --> 00:06:04,831 in my life. 126 00:06:06,032 --> 00:06:10,370 And I've become possessed with the idea of, 127 00:06:10,370 --> 00:06:12,538 trying to find Shella Record. 128 00:06:13,940 --> 00:06:15,408 (Dub music) 129 00:06:15,408 --> 00:06:16,809 We're just in Scarborough right now. 130 00:06:16,809 --> 00:06:18,444 We're on our way to see Kevin Laverty, 131 00:06:18,444 --> 00:06:20,913 who is a very serious record collector, 132 00:06:20,913 --> 00:06:23,883 big reggae knowledge in the city. 133 00:06:23,883 --> 00:06:26,953 He actually has a copy of the Shella Record album. 134 00:06:26,953 --> 00:06:28,254 He's one of the few guys that does. 135 00:06:28,254 --> 00:06:29,622 So I'm on my way to see him, 136 00:06:29,622 --> 00:06:30,990 and hopefully he'll have some clues about, 137 00:06:30,990 --> 00:06:32,759 who Shella Record might be. 138 00:06:32,759 --> 00:06:35,395 (reggae music) 139 00:06:36,662 --> 00:06:38,297 [Chris] Okay so basically I found this record, 140 00:06:38,297 --> 00:06:39,565 and I think from what I've heard, 141 00:06:39,565 --> 00:06:41,100 you're one of the only guys who, 142 00:06:41,100 --> 00:06:42,101 I think has a copy. 143 00:06:42,101 --> 00:06:43,002 - [Kevin] Yeah. 144 00:06:43,002 --> 00:06:44,237 - It's War Zone. 145 00:06:44,237 --> 00:06:45,638 - It's right here actually. 146 00:06:45,638 --> 00:06:48,341 Do you know anything about this person? 147 00:06:48,608 --> 00:06:50,977 - I only can try and guess her name. 148 00:06:50,977 --> 00:06:53,246 I think.. Jamaican, 149 00:06:53,246 --> 00:06:55,381 writing of names is kind of phonetic. 150 00:06:55,381 --> 00:06:57,116 So it depends on whose accent, 151 00:06:57,116 --> 00:06:58,584 from where they're from. - Right, right, right. 152 00:06:58,584 --> 00:07:00,319 - So, I don't know. 153 00:07:00,319 --> 00:07:01,154 I don't know. 154 00:07:01,154 --> 00:07:02,255 - [Chris] Like maybe Sheila? 155 00:07:02,255 --> 00:07:03,089 - Yeah, yeah. 156 00:07:03,089 --> 00:07:04,090 I was thinking Sheila, 157 00:07:04,090 --> 00:07:04,957 but the last name, 158 00:07:04,957 --> 00:07:07,226 yeah I have no idea what the last name is. 159 00:07:07,226 --> 00:07:08,461 (Dub music) 160 00:07:09,595 --> 00:07:10,596 I'm gonna go and see Henry, 161 00:07:10,596 --> 00:07:12,064 at his record store. 162 00:07:12,064 --> 00:07:14,233 It's a hidden gem and one of my favorites in the city. 163 00:07:14,233 --> 00:07:16,369 Henry knows all of the players, 164 00:07:16,369 --> 00:07:18,237 involved in Toronto's reggae scene. 165 00:07:18,237 --> 00:07:20,239 And being closer in age to the mystery singer, 166 00:07:20,239 --> 00:07:21,941 he might know something about her. 167 00:07:22,909 --> 00:07:23,876 - Welcome Chris. 168 00:07:23,876 --> 00:07:24,710 Good to see you. 169 00:07:24,710 --> 00:07:25,545 - Yeah likewise. 170 00:07:25,545 --> 00:07:26,379 Yeah yeah. 171 00:07:26,379 --> 00:07:27,280 Thanks for having us. 172 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:28,114 - [Henry] Sure. 173 00:07:28,114 --> 00:07:28,948 - [Chris] But the singer, 174 00:07:28,948 --> 00:07:30,082 I'm really trying to find out about, 175 00:07:30,082 --> 00:07:32,452 is Shella Record. 176 00:07:32,452 --> 00:07:33,953 Does that name ring any bells with you? 177 00:07:33,953 --> 00:07:35,922 As like a Toronto singer? 178 00:07:37,623 --> 00:07:41,327 - There was a British connection, "Shelly", 179 00:07:41,327 --> 00:07:43,463 who was very much in with Monica. 180 00:07:43,463 --> 00:07:44,230 - [Chris] Okay. 181 00:07:44,230 --> 00:07:46,165 - And I have a funny feeling that they, 182 00:07:46,165 --> 00:07:47,700 just maybe misspelled her, 183 00:07:47,700 --> 00:07:50,002 or just changed the name for whatever reason. 184 00:07:50,002 --> 00:07:50,937 - [Chris] Who was Shelly? 185 00:07:50,937 --> 00:07:54,607 - Shelly was a Jamaican person that was over in England, 186 00:07:56,042 --> 00:07:58,811 was very active in the reggae business. 187 00:07:58,811 --> 00:08:00,213 That's who I think it is. 188 00:08:00,213 --> 00:08:01,647 - It's a kind of unusual voice. 189 00:08:01,647 --> 00:08:02,515 Do you think maybe if I play it, 190 00:08:02,515 --> 00:08:03,516 - Yeah, - I can see if maybe you, 191 00:08:03,516 --> 00:08:04,884 recognize the voice. 192 00:08:04,884 --> 00:08:09,155 ("Jamaican Fruit of African Roots" by Shella Record) 193 00:08:16,229 --> 00:08:17,163 So what were you saying there? 194 00:08:17,163 --> 00:08:19,866 - She's sounds like an experienced singer. 195 00:08:19,866 --> 00:08:21,968 Not somebody that's recording for the first time. 196 00:08:21,968 --> 00:08:23,669 - I mean that's what's weird to me about this. 197 00:08:23,669 --> 00:08:25,304 It's like with a voice like that. 198 00:08:25,304 --> 00:08:26,606 'Cause to me it's an amazing voice. 199 00:08:26,606 --> 00:08:27,440 - Yes, yes it is. 200 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,576 - Why don't we know this voice? 201 00:08:30,576 --> 00:08:31,944 - Have you talked to Monica about it? 202 00:08:31,944 --> 00:08:32,778 - (reggae music) 203 00:08:32,778 --> 00:08:35,014 Of course I had tried talking to Monica, 204 00:08:35,014 --> 00:08:37,350 the namesake behind Monica's Records. 205 00:08:37,350 --> 00:08:39,018 But things hadn't gone quite as planned. 206 00:08:39,018 --> 00:08:41,787 (reggae music) 207 00:08:41,787 --> 00:08:43,956 I'm heading back to Eglington Avenue west, 208 00:08:43,956 --> 00:08:45,091 one of the hub's for Toronto's, 209 00:08:45,091 --> 00:08:47,827 huge Jamaican community since the 70's. 210 00:08:47,827 --> 00:08:50,229 Once it was crowded with Caribbean grocery shops, 211 00:08:50,229 --> 00:08:51,464 and records stores, 212 00:08:51,464 --> 00:08:54,066 and Monica's is one of the last businesses from that era, 213 00:08:54,066 --> 00:08:55,468 still standing. 214 00:08:55,468 --> 00:08:57,537 Maybe this time, I'll be able to charm Monica, 215 00:08:57,537 --> 00:09:00,473 into telling me all about Shella Record. 216 00:09:00,473 --> 00:09:03,242 I've been in once before, 217 00:09:03,242 --> 00:09:04,544 and I tried to ask, 218 00:09:05,444 --> 00:09:06,846 who this person might be. 219 00:09:06,846 --> 00:09:10,550 But I really didn't get a very, 220 00:09:10,550 --> 00:09:11,884 welcome reception I have to say. 221 00:09:11,884 --> 00:09:14,654 (Mysterious music) 222 00:09:18,691 --> 00:09:20,560 So the first time I met Monica, 223 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:22,061 quite an intimidating lady. 224 00:09:22,061 --> 00:09:23,362 So the first thing I did is, 225 00:09:23,362 --> 00:09:24,564 I pulled out the record, 226 00:09:24,564 --> 00:09:26,265 and I asked "Who is Shella Record?". 227 00:09:26,265 --> 00:09:27,667 "Do you know anything about this person?" 228 00:09:27,667 --> 00:09:30,002 And she actually asked me "who sent you?". 229 00:09:30,002 --> 00:09:30,603 And she actually asked me "who sent you?". 230 00:09:32,438 --> 00:09:33,706 And I was like um, 231 00:09:33,706 --> 00:09:34,607 "nobody sent me" 232 00:09:34,607 --> 00:09:36,208 "I just really like this record you guys put out, 233 00:09:36,208 --> 00:09:37,677 and I was hoping to find out more about it, 234 00:09:37,677 --> 00:09:39,579 and maybe buy some records". 235 00:09:39,579 --> 00:09:40,613 So we didn't get off, 236 00:09:40,613 --> 00:09:41,714 to the greatest start. 237 00:09:42,281 --> 00:09:43,382 I�ve recently been back in 238 00:09:43,783 --> 00:09:44,984 and I've been trying to, 239 00:09:44,984 --> 00:09:46,285 see if they're up for an interview. 240 00:09:46,285 --> 00:09:49,155 And I haven't heard anything back. 241 00:09:49,155 --> 00:09:50,890 So I'm gonna go across the street, 242 00:09:50,890 --> 00:09:52,558 and maybe see if she's okay with us filming. 243 00:09:52,558 --> 00:09:54,493 So, that's what I'm gonna do right now. 244 00:09:54,493 --> 00:09:58,264 (Mysterious Xylophone music) 245 00:10:17,650 --> 00:10:19,085 Okay, um, 246 00:10:19,085 --> 00:10:20,920 that did not go very well at all. 247 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,023 I'm not quite sure what happened but, 248 00:10:24,023 --> 00:10:25,524 I've somehow offended her. 249 00:10:25,558 --> 00:10:27,059 I asked can we come in and film. 250 00:10:27,326 --> 00:10:28,594 and maybe talk a bit about the record, 251 00:10:28,594 --> 00:10:30,262 and she was pretty upset. 252 00:10:30,696 --> 00:10:32,198 Yeah, she basically said, 253 00:10:32,198 --> 00:10:34,934 for $5000.00, she�d sit down with me 254 00:10:34,934 --> 00:10:36,402 and tell me everything I wanted to know. 255 00:10:36,702 --> 00:10:39,205 So, that�s not fucking happening. 256 00:10:39,305 --> 00:10:41,807 I don�t have $5000.00 257 00:10:41,907 --> 00:10:43,809 for an interview with someone about this record. 258 00:10:43,809 --> 00:10:46,345 (reggae music) 259 00:10:46,345 --> 00:10:48,080 I'm meeting the legendary dub producer, 260 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:49,148 King Culture, 261 00:10:49,148 --> 00:10:50,483 at a bar opposite his store, 262 00:10:50,483 --> 00:10:51,817 on Eglington west. 263 00:10:51,817 --> 00:10:54,420 (reggae music) 264 00:10:55,421 --> 00:10:57,256 Maybe he can tell me why I'm having so much trouble, 265 00:10:57,256 --> 00:10:59,325 getting to the bottom of this mystery. 266 00:10:59,392 --> 00:11:01,994 (reggae music) 267 00:11:31,924 --> 00:11:32,725 So you're saying maybe, 268 00:11:32,725 --> 00:11:33,826 I should leave this alone or like? 269 00:12:02,688 --> 00:12:05,257 (Menacing dub/reggae music) 270 00:12:14,633 --> 00:12:16,068 - Despite Culture's warning, 271 00:12:16,068 --> 00:12:17,203 I can't stop digging. 272 00:12:18,204 --> 00:12:19,805 I'm heading to the University of Toronto, 273 00:12:19,805 --> 00:12:21,440 to meet Patrick Roots, 274 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,542 a DJ who hosts a reggae radio show, 275 00:12:23,542 --> 00:12:25,177 on CIUT. 276 00:12:25,177 --> 00:12:27,012 If I can get him to play the song on the air, 277 00:12:27,012 --> 00:12:30,750 maybe someone might recognize Shella Record's voice. 278 00:12:30,750 --> 00:12:32,651 [Patrick] - Bredren called me up this past week, 279 00:12:32,651 --> 00:12:33,953 telling me that he's, 280 00:12:33,953 --> 00:12:36,722 in the search of a singer I'd say, 281 00:12:36,722 --> 00:12:38,991 from the early 70's here in Tdot, 282 00:12:38,991 --> 00:12:41,627 who produced a tune and, 283 00:12:41,627 --> 00:12:42,962 I'll just let him tell you, 284 00:12:42,962 --> 00:12:44,296 a little bit more about what's going on. 285 00:12:44,296 --> 00:12:45,431 Greetings Chris. 286 00:12:45,431 --> 00:12:47,967 - Yeah it's an amazing tune and nobody seems to know, 287 00:12:47,967 --> 00:12:49,101 who this woman is. 288 00:12:49,101 --> 00:12:51,437 So I'm hoping somebody recognizes the voice, 289 00:12:51,437 --> 00:12:52,905 or maybe if she's listening. 290 00:12:52,905 --> 00:12:54,240 And I'm hoping someone can call in, 291 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:55,341 and maybe give us some clues. 292 00:12:55,341 --> 00:12:56,909 'Cause we've been looking for a long time. 293 00:12:56,909 --> 00:12:58,911 And turning up a lot of blanks. 294 00:12:58,911 --> 00:13:00,112 - Name of the song again is? 295 00:13:00,112 --> 00:13:01,947 - It's called Roots Jamaica, 296 00:13:01,947 --> 00:13:03,349 by Shella Record. 297 00:13:03,349 --> 00:13:05,050 - Roots Jamaica, we're looking for the person, 298 00:13:05,050 --> 00:13:05,885 who did this song. 299 00:13:05,885 --> 00:13:07,486 If you know anything about her, 300 00:13:07,486 --> 00:13:08,320 give me a link up right here. 301 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:09,555 And let me know alright. 302 00:13:09,555 --> 00:13:10,389 This is the tune. 303 00:13:10,389 --> 00:13:11,924 Thank you again. 304 00:13:11,924 --> 00:13:16,228 ("Jamaican Fruit of African Roots" By Shella Record) 305 00:13:19,398 --> 00:13:21,934 (phone ringing) 306 00:13:21,934 --> 00:13:22,835 [Patrick]- 89.5. 307 00:13:22,835 --> 00:13:25,237 - Okay we just had an amazing piece of luck. 308 00:13:25,237 --> 00:13:27,473 A guy just called in right now, 309 00:13:27,473 --> 00:13:28,607 and he said, 310 00:13:28,607 --> 00:13:29,909 okay the person you're looking for, 311 00:13:29,909 --> 00:13:31,544 is "Sheila Record". 312 00:13:31,544 --> 00:13:32,778 I'm like alright, 313 00:13:32,778 --> 00:13:34,814 we thought maybe it might be Sheila but like, 314 00:13:34,814 --> 00:13:36,248 "Record" is kind of weird name. 315 00:13:36,248 --> 00:13:37,283 I was like "Record"? 316 00:13:37,283 --> 00:13:39,318 And he said no, no, no, 317 00:13:39,318 --> 00:13:40,719 "Rickards". 318 00:13:40,719 --> 00:13:41,620 "Rickards". 319 00:13:41,620 --> 00:13:44,423 - [Man] R-I-C-K-A-R-D-S. 320 00:13:44,423 --> 00:13:46,492 - R-I-C-K-A-R-D-S. 321 00:13:46,492 --> 00:13:48,160 Which totally makes sense. 322 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:48,194 Like "Shella Reckards". 323 00:13:49,595 --> 00:13:51,630 a Jamaican phonetic, 324 00:13:51,630 --> 00:13:52,531 spelling, 325 00:13:52,531 --> 00:13:53,699 Would be like "Shella Record". 326 00:13:53,699 --> 00:13:54,934 So it totally makes sense. 327 00:13:54,934 --> 00:13:56,402 And he said, 328 00:13:56,402 --> 00:13:59,138 she's not Canadian or American. 329 00:13:59,138 --> 00:14:00,606 She's like, she's Jamaican. 330 00:14:00,606 --> 00:14:02,675 But she wasn't really a reggae singer, 331 00:14:02,675 --> 00:14:04,743 she was like a jazz singer, 332 00:14:04,743 --> 00:14:07,012 kinda lounge singer from back in the day. 333 00:14:07,012 --> 00:14:09,648 Someone kind of like Shirley Bassey or something. 334 00:14:09,648 --> 00:14:11,250 Oh it's kind of weird though with the guy. 335 00:14:11,250 --> 00:14:12,718 I was kind of pumping him for information. 336 00:14:12,718 --> 00:14:14,887 I was like "Can you tell me your name?" 337 00:14:14,887 --> 00:14:17,389 And he's like, "ah I don't really think so." 338 00:14:17,389 --> 00:14:19,558 - [Man] Don't want too much publicity. 339 00:14:19,558 --> 00:14:21,594 - And then basically hung up. 340 00:14:21,594 --> 00:14:23,796 (laughing) 341 00:14:23,796 --> 00:14:24,630 I don't understand. 342 00:14:24,630 --> 00:14:25,898 This thing is just so mysterious. 343 00:14:25,898 --> 00:14:27,766 But, he did me a huge favour, 344 00:14:27,766 --> 00:14:30,202 and gave me the name Sheila Rickards. 345 00:14:30,202 --> 00:14:31,303 So that's huge. 346 00:14:31,303 --> 00:14:33,973 (Dub music) 347 00:14:33,973 --> 00:14:35,908 So right now I'm just fucking desperate, 348 00:14:35,908 --> 00:14:36,976 to get on a computer, 349 00:14:37,009 --> 00:14:38,544 and just like Google her name, 350 00:14:38,544 --> 00:14:40,713 and find out if there's any leads. 351 00:14:40,713 --> 00:14:42,548 Is she alive or whatever but. 352 00:14:42,548 --> 00:14:44,516 I'm just fucking really excited right now. 353 00:14:44,516 --> 00:14:47,653 (Dub music) 354 00:14:47,653 --> 00:14:48,988 I could only find one reference, 355 00:14:48,988 --> 00:14:50,756 to this Sheila Rickards person, 356 00:14:50,756 --> 00:14:52,424 online anywhere. 357 00:14:52,424 --> 00:14:55,027 It was an old newspaper article about a concert in Jamaica, 358 00:14:55,027 --> 00:14:56,896 at a place called the Palace Theater, 359 00:14:56,896 --> 00:14:59,164 in the early 1960's. 360 00:14:59,164 --> 00:15:00,532 The last clue I have, 361 00:15:00,532 --> 00:15:02,234 is that the record says that it was produced, 362 00:15:02,234 --> 00:15:04,336 by the great Bunny Lee. 363 00:15:04,336 --> 00:15:07,006 He's an absolute giant of Jamaican music. 364 00:15:07,006 --> 00:15:10,342 You could call him the Quincy Jones of reggae. 365 00:15:10,342 --> 00:15:12,544 He's responsible for hundreds of hit songs, 366 00:15:12,544 --> 00:15:16,015 and played a crucial role in the innovation of dub music. 367 00:15:16,015 --> 00:15:17,316 With his friend and collaborator, 368 00:15:17,316 --> 00:15:18,584 King Tubby. 369 00:15:19,485 --> 00:15:21,754 I've done all I can in Toronto to find Shella. 370 00:15:21,754 --> 00:15:23,088 And I know it seems crazy, 371 00:15:23,088 --> 00:15:25,391 but if I want to know the truth about this singer, 372 00:15:25,391 --> 00:15:27,159 then I have to go to the source. 373 00:15:27,159 --> 00:15:28,661 I'm gonna drop everything, 374 00:15:28,661 --> 00:15:29,895 and go to Jamaica, 375 00:15:29,895 --> 00:15:32,898 to see if I can track down Bunny "Striker" Lee, 376 00:15:32,898 --> 00:15:34,867 the man who holds the key to this mystery. 377 00:15:34,867 --> 00:15:37,870 (Minor key roots reggae music) 378 00:15:43,309 --> 00:15:44,677 We're here, we made it. 379 00:15:44,677 --> 00:15:47,212 (reggae music) 380 00:16:20,913 --> 00:16:23,349 - I found Bunny Lee's number in the Jamaican phone book. 381 00:16:23,349 --> 00:16:24,183 But he's not answering. 382 00:16:24,183 --> 00:16:27,219 Of course my first instinct is to go to a record shop, 383 00:16:27,219 --> 00:16:28,721 and do some digging. 384 00:16:28,721 --> 00:16:30,856 I'm heading to Orange Street downtown. 385 00:16:30,856 --> 00:16:32,958 A strip which is the stuff of legend. 386 00:16:32,992 --> 00:16:34,159 In its glory days, 387 00:16:34,159 --> 00:16:35,494 they called it "Beat Street", 388 00:16:35,494 --> 00:16:38,664 and it housed scores of legendary record stores. 389 00:16:38,664 --> 00:16:39,965 The strip has seen better days, 390 00:16:39,965 --> 00:16:43,168 and now there's only one record shop still in operation. 391 00:16:43,168 --> 00:16:44,236 Augustus Pablo's, 392 00:16:44,236 --> 00:16:45,871 Rockers International. 393 00:16:45,871 --> 00:16:48,440 (reggae music) 394 00:16:57,082 --> 00:16:59,852 Did you ever hear of a singer called Sheila Rickards? 395 00:16:59,852 --> 00:17:01,520 - Sheila Rickards did you ever hear about that? 396 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:02,588 - Sheila Richard? 397 00:17:02,588 --> 00:17:03,589 - [Chris] Rickards. 398 00:17:03,589 --> 00:17:04,423 - Rickards. 399 00:17:04,423 --> 00:17:05,257 - [Chris] Rickards. 400 00:17:05,257 --> 00:17:08,327 From a long time, well before your time I would think. 401 00:17:08,460 --> 00:17:09,628 - [Jennifer] My friend must know her. 402 00:17:09,628 --> 00:17:10,462 My friend dem. 403 00:17:10,462 --> 00:17:11,296 - [Chris] I have the record. 404 00:17:11,296 --> 00:17:12,898 Do you think by playing it you might recognize her voice? 405 00:17:12,898 --> 00:17:13,766 - Yeah, 406 00:17:13,766 --> 00:17:17,036 How you a gwan so man? play the record, yuh nah easy man! 407 00:17:17,770 --> 00:17:20,072 - So it's second to last. 408 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,776 ("Jamaican Fruit of African Roots" by Shella Record) 409 00:17:23,809 --> 00:17:25,577 # We came # 410 00:17:25,577 --> 00:17:29,815 # From the distant land # 411 00:17:29,815 --> 00:17:30,649 # Our lives # 412 00:17:30,649 --> 00:17:35,654 # Already planned # 413 00:17:36,188 --> 00:17:37,823 # We came in ships # 414 00:17:37,823 --> 00:17:40,426 # From across the sea # 415 00:17:40,426 --> 00:17:42,394 - This is a Jamaican? 416 00:17:42,394 --> 00:17:47,399 # And never again our home we'd see # 417 00:17:48,634 --> 00:17:53,605 # And now we've become # 418 00:17:54,873 --> 00:17:59,878 # Jamaican fruit # 419 00:18:00,846 --> 00:18:04,950 # Of African roots # 420 00:18:04,950 --> 00:18:09,955 # Me wan' fi forward on a yard # 421 00:18:10,456 --> 00:18:11,824 # Me wan'... # 422 00:18:11,824 --> 00:18:13,025 - To a special artist, 423 00:18:13,025 --> 00:18:14,093 Sheila Rickards because, 424 00:18:14,093 --> 00:18:16,328 we know how to identify special people. 425 00:18:16,328 --> 00:18:17,963 And when we hear special people, 426 00:18:17,963 --> 00:18:19,865 we've gotta speak about them, okay? 427 00:18:19,865 --> 00:18:21,133 So Sheila listen to me man, 428 00:18:21,133 --> 00:18:23,001 You can't just ah sound so and only give we one, 429 00:18:23,001 --> 00:18:25,137 so sometimes we know the record thing go you know. 430 00:18:25,137 --> 00:18:25,971 Yeah because, 431 00:18:25,971 --> 00:18:26,972 when you have a special sound, 432 00:18:26,972 --> 00:18:29,007 it's not easy for people to record you. 433 00:18:29,007 --> 00:18:30,042 You understand, because they don't know, 434 00:18:30,042 --> 00:18:31,477 what to do with your voice. 435 00:18:31,477 --> 00:18:33,512 Me, I know how to find you people you know. 436 00:18:33,512 --> 00:18:35,414 So I know to dig you up through my spirit. 437 00:18:35,414 --> 00:18:36,548 We know you're alive because, 438 00:18:36,548 --> 00:18:38,250 we didn't get anything that you're not here. 439 00:18:38,250 --> 00:18:39,218 We know you're here. 440 00:18:39,218 --> 00:18:42,121 So we're gonna find you man. 441 00:18:42,121 --> 00:18:42,955 Sheila Rickards, 442 00:18:42,955 --> 00:18:44,123 we're gonna find you. 443 00:18:44,123 --> 00:18:46,692 (Moody reggae music) 444 00:18:57,803 --> 00:18:58,737 - I'm here at the archives, 445 00:18:58,737 --> 00:19:00,873 to see if I can find out anything about, 446 00:19:00,873 --> 00:19:02,875 Sheila Rickards like, 447 00:19:02,875 --> 00:19:05,244 if she was a star from that era or, 448 00:19:05,244 --> 00:19:07,579 any kind of celebrity then maybe, 449 00:19:07,579 --> 00:19:08,981 maybe there's a record of her somewhere. 450 00:19:08,981 --> 00:19:10,382 So we're gonna go in and see what we can find. 451 00:19:10,382 --> 00:19:12,985 (You are my angel by Horace Andy) 452 00:19:14,153 --> 00:19:16,655 # You # 453 00:19:16,655 --> 00:19:19,224 # Are my angel # 454 00:19:26,498 --> 00:19:27,332 - Dennis Brown. 455 00:19:27,332 --> 00:19:29,902 (reggae music) 456 00:19:31,336 --> 00:19:32,237 Oh my God, 457 00:19:32,237 --> 00:19:33,071 oh my God. 458 00:19:33,071 --> 00:19:33,906 Look. 459 00:19:35,908 --> 00:19:37,242 "Sheila Richards", 460 00:19:37,242 --> 00:19:38,577 that I'll bet you, 461 00:19:38,577 --> 00:19:39,711 that's Sheila Rickards. 462 00:19:40,112 --> 00:19:42,681 (Dub music) 463 00:19:50,522 --> 00:19:51,823 Okay, I'm very very excited. 464 00:19:51,823 --> 00:19:53,792 I've just been at the Gleaner newspaper here. 465 00:19:53,792 --> 00:19:55,527 Which is the oldest newspaper, 466 00:19:55,527 --> 00:19:58,497 apparently in the western hemisphere. 467 00:19:58,497 --> 00:20:00,399 But they had a whole bunch, 468 00:20:00,399 --> 00:20:03,869 archival articles and photographs of Sheila Rickards, 469 00:20:03,869 --> 00:20:05,504 aka "Shella Record". 470 00:20:12,477 --> 00:20:13,312 This is her. 471 00:20:13,312 --> 00:20:14,713 This is Shella Record. 472 00:20:16,381 --> 00:20:18,016 And she's absolutely stunning. 473 00:20:18,016 --> 00:20:18,817 It's so cool. 474 00:20:18,817 --> 00:20:20,219 She really doesn't look that much like, 475 00:20:20,219 --> 00:20:21,119 what I expected. 476 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,256 Like, she's got this crazy bouffant going on but, 477 00:20:24,256 --> 00:20:25,824 so cool. 478 00:20:25,824 --> 00:20:28,193 So now we have, 479 00:20:28,193 --> 00:20:31,663 a face to a voice. 480 00:20:31,663 --> 00:20:32,898 Now we just got to find her. 481 00:20:39,605 --> 00:20:42,908 # There's a man that lives next door # 482 00:20:42,908 --> 00:20:45,510 # In my neighborhood # 483 00:20:45,510 --> 00:20:47,813 # In my neighborhood # 484 00:20:47,813 --> 00:20:50,415 (reggae music) 485 00:20:51,383 --> 00:20:53,352 - Okay I finally got a call back from Bunny Lee, 486 00:20:53,352 --> 00:20:54,987 and I'm heading over to meet him. 487 00:20:54,987 --> 00:20:57,122 I'm kind of anxious meeting such a legend, 488 00:20:57,122 --> 00:20:59,424 who's produced so many of my favorite reggae albums. 489 00:20:59,424 --> 00:21:00,892 He's kind of like an idol of mine, 490 00:21:00,892 --> 00:21:03,228 and this is all a bit surreal to me right now. 491 00:21:16,575 --> 00:21:17,409 - Okay this is it. 492 00:21:17,409 --> 00:21:18,710 Here we are. 493 00:21:18,710 --> 00:21:20,912 The home of Bunny "Striker" Lee, 494 00:21:20,912 --> 00:21:22,247 the hit maker from Jamaica. 495 00:21:23,915 --> 00:21:26,652 Hoping to go in and get an audience with him and, 496 00:21:26,652 --> 00:21:28,820 find out if he knows anything about, 497 00:21:28,820 --> 00:21:30,722 Sheila Rickards or Shella Record. 498 00:21:30,722 --> 00:21:32,724 So, fingers crossed. 499 00:21:34,026 --> 00:21:35,460 Alright Mr. Lee. 500 00:21:35,460 --> 00:21:36,561 - Yes. - Good to see you. 501 00:21:36,561 --> 00:21:37,629 Yeah yeah. 502 00:21:37,629 --> 00:21:39,031 - [Andrew] Hi Mr.Lee. 503 00:21:39,031 --> 00:21:39,931 I'm Andrew. 504 00:21:39,931 --> 00:21:41,166 Nice to meet you. 505 00:21:41,166 --> 00:21:42,768 - Okay so I found a record, 506 00:21:43,602 --> 00:21:45,437 in Canada. It was out in the country, 507 00:21:45,437 --> 00:21:47,072 in a thrift store. 508 00:21:47,072 --> 00:21:49,741 I can't find too much information on it, 509 00:21:49,741 --> 00:21:51,510 The song I'm really trying to find out about. 510 00:21:55,681 --> 00:21:58,016 Shella Record. 511 00:21:58,016 --> 00:21:59,151 - [Both] Sheila Rickards. 512 00:21:59,151 --> 00:22:00,686 - Sheila Rickards? - Yeah. 513 00:22:00,686 --> 00:22:02,387 - What do you remember about, 514 00:22:02,387 --> 00:22:03,121 Sheila Rickards? 515 00:22:14,833 --> 00:22:16,735 - She's not normally a reggae singer though. 516 00:22:29,548 --> 00:22:31,283 - The only Reggae tune she ever did. 517 00:22:31,350 --> 00:22:33,085 When was the last time you saw her? 518 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,728 - Did you ever hear any rumors about where she ended up? 519 00:22:42,728 --> 00:22:43,962 - No, no. 520 00:22:43,962 --> 00:22:44,796 - Okay, okay. 521 00:22:44,796 --> 00:22:47,032 It's such an amazing track. 522 00:22:47,299 --> 00:22:49,034 it got so under my skin I had to kind of, 523 00:22:49,034 --> 00:22:51,136 find out who it might be. 524 00:22:51,136 --> 00:22:53,171 So did you build this rhythm for her? 525 00:22:56,375 --> 00:22:57,909 - So you never released this, 526 00:22:57,909 --> 00:22:59,544 in Jamaica? - No! 527 00:22:59,578 --> 00:23:00,746 Do you still have the tapes? 528 00:23:03,615 --> 00:23:04,616 - You had a fire at the studio. 529 00:23:06,385 --> 00:23:07,819 - Man I'm sorry to hear that. 530 00:23:13,692 --> 00:23:16,261 (reggae music) 531 00:23:19,931 --> 00:23:21,666 - Newton-Curry goat! 532 00:23:21,666 --> 00:23:24,836 # There's a man that lives next door # 533 00:23:24,836 --> 00:23:27,272 # In my neighborhood # 534 00:23:27,272 --> 00:23:29,341 - So we're going inside, 535 00:23:29,341 --> 00:23:31,977 and if it wasn't destroyed by the fire or the water damage, 536 00:23:31,977 --> 00:23:33,445 we might be able to find, 537 00:23:33,445 --> 00:23:34,446 the Sheila Rickards tapes. 538 00:23:34,446 --> 00:23:36,681 He may have them inside. 539 00:23:37,382 --> 00:23:38,984 [Bunny] Go upstairs 540 00:23:39,851 --> 00:23:41,186 Alright watch your step. 541 00:23:46,725 --> 00:23:48,460 - [Andrew] Oh my God. 542 00:23:50,328 --> 00:23:51,196 Oh my God. 543 00:23:54,466 --> 00:23:55,467 - My God. 544 00:23:59,438 --> 00:24:00,672 So Newton, what, 545 00:24:00,672 --> 00:24:01,506 what happened? 546 00:24:28,033 --> 00:24:30,135 (Heavy dub music) 547 00:25:40,972 --> 00:25:43,575 (Dub music) 548 00:25:47,646 --> 00:25:49,314 - [Andrew] Newton were you alright? 549 00:26:10,569 --> 00:26:11,703 - Yeah, yeah. 550 00:26:23,949 --> 00:26:26,518 (Moody Xylophone music) 551 00:26:33,291 --> 00:26:35,493 - [Chris] These tapes have been through a lot. 552 00:26:35,493 --> 00:26:37,696 - Yes, these tapes are older than, 553 00:26:38,697 --> 00:26:39,864 you and I. 554 00:26:41,099 --> 00:26:43,668 (Xylophone music) 555 00:26:50,609 --> 00:26:52,911 Sheila Rickards tape in here somewhere. 556 00:26:53,111 --> 00:26:56,114 So many of them got damaged by fire and water like, 557 00:26:56,114 --> 00:26:57,749 it's a real long shot, 558 00:26:58,650 --> 00:26:59,985 I don't know, they kinda look alright. 559 00:26:59,985 --> 00:27:01,820 I'm hoping they're okay. 560 00:27:01,820 --> 00:27:03,455 I'm covered in soot right now. 561 00:27:03,455 --> 00:27:04,289 It's crazy. 562 00:27:18,536 --> 00:27:21,106 (Xylophone music) 563 00:27:30,448 --> 00:27:31,249 - Is this it? 564 00:27:31,249 --> 00:27:32,083 - Yeah. 565 00:27:34,919 --> 00:27:35,754 - Oh my God. 566 00:27:35,754 --> 00:27:38,023 (laughing) 567 00:27:39,024 --> 00:27:40,725 Sheila, 568 00:27:43,128 --> 00:27:44,462 Sheila 569 00:27:44,863 --> 00:27:45,930 Rickards? 570 00:27:47,565 --> 00:27:50,168 Jamaican fruit of African roots. 571 00:27:50,168 --> 00:27:51,736 - Yeah that's it. 572 00:27:51,736 --> 00:27:52,570 This is it.(laughing) 573 00:27:52,570 --> 00:27:53,605 - Oh my God you found it. 574 00:27:53,605 --> 00:27:55,373 This is actually it. 575 00:27:55,373 --> 00:27:56,641 - [Emily] Is it? 576 00:27:56,641 --> 00:27:57,475 You found it? 577 00:27:58,543 --> 00:27:59,377 Shit! 578 00:27:59,678 --> 00:28:00,512 - Did it get..? 579 00:28:00,545 --> 00:28:01,746 Oh it got a little bit, 580 00:28:01,746 --> 00:28:02,580 singed. 581 00:28:10,955 --> 00:28:12,190 Woaaah! 582 00:28:13,058 --> 00:28:13,892 It survived. 583 00:28:13,892 --> 00:28:14,926 It survived the fire. 584 00:28:14,926 --> 00:28:15,994 - [Bunny] Yeah. 585 00:28:15,994 --> 00:28:17,262 - [Chris] Wow. 586 00:28:17,262 --> 00:28:19,364 This tune just refuses to die. 587 00:28:19,364 --> 00:28:21,599 (laughing) 588 00:28:22,934 --> 00:28:25,136 Wow, that's amazing. 589 00:28:25,136 --> 00:28:29,374 (Jamaican Fruit of African Roots" by Sheila Rickards) 590 00:28:32,310 --> 00:28:33,411 I was disappointed that Bunny, 591 00:28:33,411 --> 00:28:35,013 didn't know where Sheila was. 592 00:28:35,013 --> 00:28:36,581 But after finding the master tapes, 593 00:28:36,581 --> 00:28:38,717 I feel even closer to Sheila Rickards, 594 00:28:38,717 --> 00:28:40,085 and her incredible voice. 595 00:28:41,519 --> 00:28:42,954 Bunny said that most of the musicians, 596 00:28:42,954 --> 00:28:44,656 from his house band The Aggrovators, 597 00:28:44,656 --> 00:28:45,990 have left the country. 598 00:28:45,990 --> 00:28:47,926 But the lead guitarist Earl Smith, 599 00:28:47,926 --> 00:28:49,127 better known as "Chinna", 600 00:28:49,127 --> 00:28:50,662 is still in Kingston. 601 00:28:50,662 --> 00:28:52,030 The man's an absolute legend, 602 00:28:52,030 --> 00:28:55,133 having played guitar on almost every reggae album ever made. 603 00:28:55,133 --> 00:28:58,403 We're talking tens of thousands of studio sessions. 604 00:28:58,403 --> 00:29:00,572 Maybe he knows what happened to Sheila. 605 00:29:00,572 --> 00:29:03,141 (reggae music) 606 00:29:06,344 --> 00:29:08,279 I'm looking for Chinna. 607 00:29:10,682 --> 00:29:12,283 - [Andrew] Hey, Andrew. 608 00:29:12,283 --> 00:29:15,386 - Yeah man, bless up, Inna de yard. 609 00:29:16,588 --> 00:29:18,857 - Alright man really good to see you, yeah, yeah. 610 00:29:18,957 --> 00:29:20,225 Chinna-Alright. 611 00:29:20,225 --> 00:29:22,927 [Chris] Bunny Lee said that you played on this song. 612 00:29:22,927 --> 00:29:25,263 And right now we're trying to find out, 613 00:29:25,263 --> 00:29:26,331 if you remember the song, 614 00:29:26,331 --> 00:29:27,866 and maybe if you remember the singer. 615 00:29:29,167 --> 00:29:31,836 - Her name is Sheila Rickards. 616 00:29:39,644 --> 00:29:40,678 - Jazz singer exactly. 617 00:29:40,678 --> 00:29:41,980 So yeah basically the story is, 618 00:29:41,980 --> 00:29:43,848 I found a record in Canada, 619 00:29:43,848 --> 00:29:44,916 a number of years ago. 620 00:29:46,518 --> 00:29:48,853 It absolutely blew me away and, 621 00:29:48,853 --> 00:29:51,055 I was trying for a long time to find out, 622 00:29:51,055 --> 00:29:52,590 who this singer might be because, 623 00:29:52,590 --> 00:29:54,025 there was a misprint on the label. 624 00:29:54,025 --> 00:29:55,093 - Right. 625 00:29:57,395 --> 00:29:58,296 - Shella Record. 626 00:29:59,597 --> 00:30:01,232 That's how they spell it. 627 00:30:01,232 --> 00:30:02,467 "Shella" and "Record". 628 00:30:02,467 --> 00:30:03,401 - Yeah, yeah, yeah. 629 00:30:08,606 --> 00:30:09,440 - Yeah. 630 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:10,308 - What so they don't have to pay the artist, 631 00:30:10,308 --> 00:30:11,376 is that the idea? 632 00:30:13,611 --> 00:30:14,445 - So you think it's deliberate. 633 00:30:14,445 --> 00:30:15,280 - Yeah yeah. 634 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,114 - Deliberate. 635 00:30:16,114 --> 00:30:16,881 - Yeah. - Conspiracy. 636 00:30:19,984 --> 00:30:22,420 I want to see maybe if you remember this tune or not. 637 00:30:22,420 --> 00:30:23,354 It was never a hit here. 638 00:30:23,354 --> 00:30:25,089 It was never even came out here but, 639 00:30:25,089 --> 00:30:28,726 maybe we can try and play it and see if it rings any bells. 640 00:30:33,698 --> 00:30:34,999 - Water and oil? 641 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,802 - I'll put it on, maybe you can remember, 642 00:31:10,802 --> 00:31:11,636 maybe you can't. 643 00:31:11,636 --> 00:31:14,205 But I'm wondering if maybe you're in the same room as her, 644 00:31:14,205 --> 00:31:16,207 at one time back in, 645 00:31:16,207 --> 00:31:17,709 1975. 646 00:31:17,709 --> 00:31:21,980 ("Jamaican Fruit of African Roots" by Sheila Rickards) 647 00:31:31,890 --> 00:31:36,895 # Jamaican fruit # 648 00:31:37,562 --> 00:31:37,595 # Of African roots # 649 00:31:37,629 --> 00:31:40,498 # Of African roots # 650 00:31:47,505 --> 00:31:48,573 - [Chris] Santa on drums. 651 00:31:50,642 --> 00:31:52,310 - [Chris] Fully on bass okay, okay. 652 00:31:56,014 --> 00:31:57,048 okay okay. 653 00:32:00,985 --> 00:32:01,819 - You playing lead guitar. 654 00:32:01,819 --> 00:32:02,654 - Yeah. 655 00:32:02,654 --> 00:32:03,488 - So you played on this record. 656 00:32:03,488 --> 00:32:04,322 - Yeah. - Okay. 657 00:32:04,322 --> 00:32:05,156 Okay. 658 00:32:09,627 --> 00:32:11,162 You know that you played on this record. 659 00:32:11,296 --> 00:32:13,431 Do you remember anything about it? 660 00:32:13,431 --> 00:32:14,933 The woman in the room or anything like that? 661 00:32:22,407 --> 00:32:23,408 - How many would you say? 662 00:32:23,408 --> 00:32:24,309 How many sessions, 663 00:32:25,243 --> 00:32:26,344 that you played on? 664 00:32:26,344 --> 00:32:27,545 (laughing) 665 00:32:35,253 --> 00:32:37,355 (laughing) 666 00:32:37,355 --> 00:32:38,189 Yeah yeah. 667 00:32:40,692 --> 00:32:42,927 - So it's a bit of a kind of quest for me to... 668 00:32:44,162 --> 00:32:45,730 - That's what we're trying to find out. 669 00:32:45,730 --> 00:32:46,931 Yeah that's the mission. 670 00:32:56,341 --> 00:32:59,277 (Mellow guitar music) 671 00:33:13,558 --> 00:33:16,060 - Chinna remembered Sheila's family home on 7th Street, 672 00:33:16,060 --> 00:33:17,428 in the Greenwich town neighborhood, 673 00:33:17,428 --> 00:33:19,330 where he also grew up. 674 00:33:19,330 --> 00:33:20,164 It's a long shot, 675 00:33:20,164 --> 00:33:23,267 but maybe someone there might know where Sheila is. 676 00:33:23,267 --> 00:33:24,802 So this is 7th Street, 677 00:33:24,802 --> 00:33:26,671 the street that Sheila Rickards grew up on. 678 00:33:26,671 --> 00:33:29,774 So what we're looking for, 679 00:33:29,774 --> 00:33:32,076 - No this 8.. 680 00:33:32,076 --> 00:33:33,311 that's eight. 681 00:33:33,311 --> 00:33:34,345 That's 10? 682 00:33:41,652 --> 00:33:42,854 (laughing) 683 00:33:42,854 --> 00:33:44,222 - You see the man who's living here now? 684 00:33:44,222 --> 00:33:45,656 His name's Sparky. 685 00:33:45,656 --> 00:33:46,691 - Sparky? 686 00:33:46,691 --> 00:33:49,093 Oh yeah Sparky and Pluggy? 687 00:33:49,093 --> 00:33:50,862 - But I live in England I just on holiday. 688 00:33:50,862 --> 00:33:52,330 - You're on holiday here right now. 689 00:33:52,330 --> 00:33:53,164 - Yeah. 690 00:33:53,164 --> 00:33:53,998 - Okay okay. 691 00:33:53,998 --> 00:33:56,000 So I'm here trying to find information, 692 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,769 about Sheila Rickards. 693 00:33:57,769 --> 00:33:59,604 Does that name ring any bells? 694 00:33:59,604 --> 00:34:02,240 - Yes, her father owned this place. 695 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,175 She grew up with us, 696 00:34:04,208 --> 00:34:05,910 - Okay. 697 00:34:05,910 --> 00:34:07,378 - And she left and go foreign. 698 00:34:07,378 --> 00:34:08,846 I never see her again. 699 00:34:08,846 --> 00:34:10,648 - When was the last time you saw her? 700 00:34:10,648 --> 00:34:13,351 - Years and years and years and years and years. 701 00:34:13,351 --> 00:34:14,385 - We're tryna find her. 702 00:34:14,385 --> 00:34:15,620 Everybody's tryna to find her. 703 00:34:15,620 --> 00:34:16,788 - Everybody's tryna to find her. 704 00:34:16,788 --> 00:34:18,723 Okay, so you'd like to see her again? 705 00:34:18,723 --> 00:34:19,524 - Oh yeah. 706 00:34:19,524 --> 00:34:20,525 Especially I because, 707 00:34:20,525 --> 00:34:22,060 she come to me like, 708 00:34:22,060 --> 00:34:23,594 she's my sister. 709 00:34:24,562 --> 00:34:27,065 Because her father is my godparent. 710 00:34:27,065 --> 00:34:28,132 But she born here. 711 00:34:28,132 --> 00:34:28,966 - [Chris] Born in this house? 712 00:34:28,966 --> 00:34:30,134 - [Sparky] Yeah that's where she born. 713 00:34:30,134 --> 00:34:32,670 (Moody Xylophone music) 714 00:35:30,862 --> 00:35:33,631 - Okay, okay. 715 00:35:33,631 --> 00:35:36,767 So L.A. is maybe somewhere we need to explore too. 716 00:35:36,767 --> 00:35:38,269 Do you think she's still alive? 717 00:35:38,269 --> 00:35:40,371 - [Sparky] Yeah I think she is. 718 00:35:40,371 --> 00:35:41,205 I think she is yeah. 719 00:35:41,205 --> 00:35:42,039 - Yeah, yeah. 720 00:35:42,039 --> 00:35:44,575 (Ominous music) 721 00:35:47,311 --> 00:35:48,913 I'm following in Sheila's footsteps, 722 00:35:48,913 --> 00:35:50,915 to try and find King Tubby's studio, 723 00:35:50,915 --> 00:35:52,950 in Waterhouse where she recorded the song, 724 00:35:52,950 --> 00:35:53,818 with Bunny Lee. 725 00:36:01,959 --> 00:36:03,027 - Why do they call it Fire House? 726 00:36:10,268 --> 00:36:12,970 [Chris]- I won't be able to get any clues from Tubby himself. 727 00:36:13,004 --> 00:36:14,672 Who was tragically killed outside his home, 728 00:36:14,672 --> 00:36:16,841 in a robbery in the late 80's. 729 00:36:16,841 --> 00:36:18,276 For me this is like a pilgrimage, 730 00:36:18,276 --> 00:36:19,644 to a sacred site. 731 00:36:19,644 --> 00:36:21,612 But right now I'm feeling a bit out of my depth, 732 00:36:21,612 --> 00:36:24,248 and I'm too bloody nervous to enjoy any of it. 733 00:36:50,441 --> 00:36:50,474 - [Seymour] General, respect. 734 00:37:06,090 --> 00:37:08,659 (reggae music) 735 00:37:11,095 --> 00:37:12,029 I think it's there you know. 736 00:37:12,029 --> 00:37:14,699 - [Chris] Okay, yeah with the record there, yeah, yeah yeah. 737 00:37:20,104 --> 00:37:21,305 That's it there? 738 00:37:21,305 --> 00:37:23,107 I think that's it. 739 00:37:25,610 --> 00:37:28,045 - It's just cool to even see it, you know. 740 00:37:28,045 --> 00:37:29,413 This is the house where, 741 00:37:29,413 --> 00:37:33,251 some of the most magical music ever made was created. 742 00:37:33,317 --> 00:37:35,152 I've been dreaming of this place for years, 743 00:37:35,152 --> 00:37:36,787 and now I'm finally here. 744 00:37:37,655 --> 00:37:39,991 This is where it all began, 745 00:37:39,991 --> 00:37:42,260 when Sheila Rickards stepped inside this studio, 746 00:37:42,260 --> 00:37:43,327 in 1975. 747 00:37:49,767 --> 00:37:52,737 Yeah..put in a punch oh heavy now 748 00:37:54,572 --> 00:37:56,207 Right from the top. 749 00:38:00,845 --> 00:38:02,413 Bunny-Rolling. 750 00:38:02,413 --> 00:38:03,581 (Jamaican Fruit of African Roots" By Sheila Rickards) 751 00:38:03,581 --> 00:38:08,552 # Ooooooh Yeah yeah, eah, eah, eah # 752 00:38:16,994 --> 00:38:18,663 # We came # 753 00:38:18,663 --> 00:38:23,000 # From a distant land # 754 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:28,005 # Our lives already planned # 755 00:38:29,607 --> 00:38:31,542 # We came in ships # 756 00:38:31,542 --> 00:38:35,913 # From across the sea # 757 00:38:35,913 --> 00:38:38,883 # And never again our home # 758 00:38:38,883 --> 00:38:42,687 # We'd see # 759 00:38:42,687 --> 00:38:47,692 # And now we've become # 760 00:38:49,093 --> 00:38:54,098 # Jamaican fruit # 761 00:38:55,433 --> 00:39:00,071 # Of African roots # 762 00:39:00,071 --> 00:39:05,076 # Me wan' fi forward on a yard # 763 00:39:06,043 --> 00:39:11,048 # Me wan' fi forward on a yard # 764 00:39:11,916 --> 00:39:13,951 # Our master's soil # 765 00:39:13,951 --> 00:39:18,422 # We toiled from morn' till night # 766 00:39:18,422 --> 00:39:23,427 # Never given little human rights # 767 00:39:23,728 --> 00:39:26,297 # Though a long years passed # 768 00:39:26,297 --> 00:39:29,700 # Things remained the same # 769 00:39:29,700 --> 00:39:34,705 # Our little babies born with no last name # 770 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,311 # Just tell me what's to become # 771 00:39:40,311 --> 00:39:43,047 # Of the # 772 00:39:43,047 --> 00:39:48,052 # Jamaican fruit # 773 00:39:48,319 --> 00:39:52,923 # Of African roots # 774 00:39:52,923 --> 00:39:57,895 # Me wan' fi forward on a yard # 775 00:39:58,963 --> 00:40:03,968 # Me wan' fi forward on a yard # 776 00:40:06,203 --> 00:40:11,041 # How, how were we to know # 777 00:40:11,041 --> 00:40:16,046 # Just what this land would bring # 778 00:40:16,914 --> 00:40:18,616 # And that our blood # 779 00:40:18,616 --> 00:40:22,520 # Our very blood would flow # 780 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,789 # Because of the color # 781 00:40:24,789 --> 00:40:27,525 # Of our skin # 782 00:40:27,525 --> 00:40:30,428 # Being black # 783 00:40:30,428 --> 00:40:32,730 # I am black # 784 00:40:32,730 --> 00:40:35,032 # I love being black # 785 00:40:35,032 --> 00:40:40,037 # Oh # 786 00:40:40,905 --> 00:40:45,910 # The time has come for us to join hands # 787 00:40:45,910 --> 00:40:48,279 # Let's not be punished by # 788 00:40:48,279 --> 00:40:52,516 # The rules of this land # 789 00:40:52,516 --> 00:40:57,521 # Now that we're aware of what we must do # 790 00:40:57,655 --> 00:41:00,524 # Let us no longer be fools # 791 00:41:00,524 --> 00:41:03,828 # No longer fools # 792 00:41:03,828 --> 00:41:05,563 # Let us all # 793 00:41:05,563 --> 00:41:06,864 # Be # 794 00:41:06,864 --> 00:41:09,834 # Black # 795 00:41:09,834 --> 00:41:14,839 # Let us all be black # 796 00:41:15,573 --> 00:41:20,578 # And Jamaican fruit # 797 00:41:21,579 --> 00:41:26,250 # Of African roots # 798 00:41:26,250 --> 00:41:31,255 # Me wan' fi forward on a yard # 799 00:41:31,322 --> 00:41:32,256 # Yeah-eah # 800 00:41:32,256 --> 00:41:33,090 # Me wan' # 801 00:41:33,090 --> 00:41:37,962 # fi forward on a yard # 802 00:41:37,962 --> 00:41:42,867 # Me waaan, me waaan, me waan fi forward on a yard # 803 00:41:48,072 --> 00:41:49,974 # I wanna be black # 804 00:41:49,974 --> 00:41:52,209 # Leave me, let me be black # 805 00:41:52,209 --> 00:41:55,312 # Black, black is beautiful # 806 00:41:55,312 --> 00:41:58,682 # Oh # 807 00:41:58,682 --> 00:42:01,352 # African roots # 808 00:42:05,289 --> 00:42:06,090 Engineer-Yes suh? 809 00:42:06,090 --> 00:42:07,291 Bunny-Bloodclaat! (laughing) 810 00:42:10,594 --> 00:42:12,596 (Mellow lounge music) 811 00:42:12,596 --> 00:42:13,631 - [Chris] Since none of the reggae people, 812 00:42:13,631 --> 00:42:15,099 seem to know what happened to Sheila, 813 00:42:15,099 --> 00:42:16,600 I'm hoping some of the older jazz crowd, 814 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,202 might know where she is. 815 00:42:19,103 --> 00:42:21,438 I'm meeting Jamaica's premier jazz singer, 816 00:42:21,438 --> 00:42:24,808 Myrna Hague, at the swanky Four Seasons Hotel, 817 00:42:24,808 --> 00:42:25,976 which feels about as far away, 818 00:42:25,976 --> 00:42:27,511 from Waterhouse as you can get. 819 00:42:28,512 --> 00:42:32,783 ("Jamaican Fruit of African Roots" by Sheila Rickards) 820 00:42:33,884 --> 00:42:36,086 Is that the kinda material you expect from her? 821 00:42:36,086 --> 00:42:36,921 - Not it's not, it's not. 822 00:42:36,921 --> 00:42:38,355 But the treatment of it, 823 00:42:38,355 --> 00:42:40,024 it's a reggae track obviously. 824 00:42:40,024 --> 00:42:41,058 But the treatment of it, 825 00:42:41,058 --> 00:42:42,359 sounds like the kind of treatment, 826 00:42:42,359 --> 00:42:43,928 that a Jazz singer would, 827 00:42:43,928 --> 00:42:47,765 give to reggae material. 828 00:42:47,765 --> 00:42:52,303 Sheila was a jazz singer in the jazz tradition. 829 00:42:52,303 --> 00:42:54,171 So if you give her a reggae track, 830 00:42:54,171 --> 00:42:55,639 to sing, she's gonna do that. 831 00:42:55,639 --> 00:42:56,440 - Right. 832 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:57,441 It's very theatrical. 833 00:42:57,441 --> 00:42:59,243 - Yeah it's very theatrical. 834 00:42:59,243 --> 00:43:03,581 And she would want to stamp it with her own style. 835 00:43:04,548 --> 00:43:05,382 She'd want to, 836 00:43:05,382 --> 00:43:07,251 because my memories of her, 837 00:43:07,251 --> 00:43:09,053 is that she was the jazz singer. 838 00:43:09,053 --> 00:43:11,155 All of the musicians talked about her. 839 00:43:11,155 --> 00:43:12,089 - The musicians talked about her? 840 00:43:12,089 --> 00:43:13,357 - Yeah when I came to Jamaica, 841 00:43:13,357 --> 00:43:16,160 she was the singer that everybody was talking about. 842 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,996 - Did you hear any stories about where she ended up? 843 00:43:18,996 --> 00:43:19,964 - No. 844 00:43:21,231 --> 00:43:22,132 well, 845 00:43:22,132 --> 00:43:24,268 what I heard is that she went to the states. 846 00:43:24,268 --> 00:43:26,070 Because that's where everybody was going at that time. 847 00:43:26,070 --> 00:43:27,838 Everybody was leaving to go to the states. 848 00:43:27,838 --> 00:43:29,540 And I think that's where she went. 849 00:43:29,540 --> 00:43:31,141 And then she just, 850 00:43:31,141 --> 00:43:34,244 you know, we just lost sight and sound of her after that. 851 00:43:34,244 --> 00:43:35,379 I never heard anything more. 852 00:43:35,379 --> 00:43:37,781 - [Chris] A lot of artists try their luck somewhere else, 853 00:43:37,781 --> 00:43:38,616 in a bigger market. 854 00:43:38,616 --> 00:43:41,118 Do you think Sheila would have had success, 855 00:43:41,118 --> 00:43:43,187 in the States if she did continue her career. 856 00:43:43,187 --> 00:43:44,021 - I doubt it. 857 00:43:44,021 --> 00:43:44,888 I doubt it. 858 00:43:44,888 --> 00:43:45,923 I'll tell you why I doubt it, 859 00:43:45,923 --> 00:43:47,591 not because she wasn't good, 860 00:43:47,591 --> 00:43:50,728 but because the United States is very competitive. 861 00:43:50,728 --> 00:43:52,796 It's a very competitive market. 862 00:43:52,796 --> 00:43:54,965 And as a jazz singer, 863 00:43:54,965 --> 00:43:56,100 she would have been up against, 864 00:43:56,100 --> 00:43:57,635 all of the great female Jazz singers, 865 00:43:57,635 --> 00:43:58,969 that were around at the time. 866 00:43:58,969 --> 00:44:00,471 The great swing singers, 867 00:44:00,471 --> 00:44:01,905 at the time. 868 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,409 And so, it would have been almost impossible. 869 00:44:08,646 --> 00:44:10,748 - Myrna suggested I talk to Herbie Miller, 870 00:44:10,748 --> 00:44:11,815 a Jazz historian, 871 00:44:11,815 --> 00:44:13,817 and Peter Tosh's former manager, 872 00:44:13,817 --> 00:44:18,222 who runs a museum of Jamaican music history downtown. 873 00:44:21,859 --> 00:44:22,726 - It looks amazing. 874 00:44:22,726 --> 00:44:24,028 This is like my dream office. 875 00:44:24,028 --> 00:44:25,963 (laughing) 876 00:44:25,963 --> 00:44:27,164 You're familiar with the name, 877 00:44:27,164 --> 00:44:28,732 Sheila Rickards? 878 00:44:28,732 --> 00:44:30,601 - I've seen her perform. 879 00:44:30,601 --> 00:44:31,769 Oh yeah. 880 00:44:31,769 --> 00:44:36,640 But I've not seen her for many many years. 881 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,842 I don't recall her making a reggae record, 882 00:44:38,842 --> 00:44:40,444 or a ska record or, 883 00:44:40,644 --> 00:44:41,478 any such thing. 884 00:44:41,478 --> 00:44:43,814 It's always that kind of, 885 00:44:43,814 --> 00:44:46,116 jazz, perhaps some cabaret. 886 00:44:46,116 --> 00:44:47,818 And she would turn up, 887 00:44:47,818 --> 00:44:49,853 in some of the hotel lounges, 888 00:44:49,853 --> 00:44:52,322 for Sunday afternoon jazz concerts. 889 00:44:52,322 --> 00:44:53,824 - [Chris] Oh okay. 890 00:44:56,193 --> 00:45:00,230 # I wanted the music # 891 00:45:00,230 --> 00:45:02,900 # To play on forever # 892 00:45:02,900 --> 00:45:06,870 # And I stayed too long at the fair # 893 00:45:06,870 --> 00:45:10,708 # I wanted the clowns # 894 00:45:10,708 --> 00:45:14,178 # To be constantly clever # 895 00:45:14,178 --> 00:45:17,715 # Have I stayed too long at the fair # 896 00:45:17,715 --> 00:45:21,385 # I want a blue ribbon # 897 00:45:21,385 --> 00:45:23,620 # To tie up my hair # 898 00:45:23,620 --> 00:45:28,392 # But I couldn't find anybody to care # 899 00:45:28,392 --> 00:45:30,861 [Chris]- So you think of Sheila Rickards, 900 00:45:30,861 --> 00:45:32,162 as an important figure in Jamaican Jazz 901 00:45:32,162 --> 00:45:32,996 [Herbie]- Of course. 902 00:45:32,996 --> 00:45:36,934 Oh yes and especially an educational point of view. 903 00:45:36,934 --> 00:45:37,968 And especially from a, 904 00:45:39,303 --> 00:45:41,271 feminist point of view. 905 00:45:41,271 --> 00:45:43,140 For a female to maintain a career, 906 00:45:43,140 --> 00:45:46,143 in reggae is extremely difficult. 907 00:45:46,143 --> 00:45:47,511 There's a lot of pressure because of the fact that, 908 00:45:47,511 --> 00:45:50,247 it's a girl inside of a, 909 00:45:50,247 --> 00:45:51,115 boys world. 910 00:45:52,282 --> 00:45:54,251 So it's either, 911 00:45:54,251 --> 00:45:56,220 you're a tom boy. 912 00:45:56,220 --> 00:45:58,822 So you're not worth hanging out with, 913 00:45:58,822 --> 00:46:01,959 or you're a pick-up. 914 00:46:01,959 --> 00:46:04,595 So everybody likes hanging out with you. 915 00:46:04,595 --> 00:46:08,932 Or if you're so strong and independent, 916 00:46:08,932 --> 00:46:10,634 then you're full of it. 917 00:46:10,634 --> 00:46:12,503 - Having a good voice isn't enough? 918 00:46:12,503 --> 00:46:13,904 - No. 919 00:46:14,104 --> 00:46:16,840 (Ambient music) 920 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,275 - [Female narrator] Chris has talked to everyone, 921 00:46:18,275 --> 00:46:20,711 in Jamaica who should know, 922 00:46:20,711 --> 00:46:22,713 what happened to Sheila. 923 00:46:22,713 --> 00:46:25,849 And played the song for anyone who will listen. 924 00:46:26,683 --> 00:46:28,585 He's running out of time, 925 00:46:28,585 --> 00:46:32,623 and is starting to feel like he's chasing a ghost. 926 00:46:32,623 --> 00:46:35,292 (Ambient music) 927 00:46:37,060 --> 00:46:38,595 [Chris]- With one day left in Jamaica, 928 00:46:38,595 --> 00:46:41,031 I put an ad in the local newspaper. 929 00:46:41,031 --> 00:46:42,065 I'm hoping someone, 930 00:46:42,065 --> 00:46:43,734 a friend or family member, 931 00:46:43,734 --> 00:46:45,803 will see the ad and give me a call, 932 00:46:45,803 --> 00:46:48,438 and tell me what happened to Sheila Rickards. 933 00:46:48,438 --> 00:46:50,808 Surely, surely someone has gotta see that, 934 00:46:50,808 --> 00:46:52,910 a family member or something and call. 935 00:46:52,910 --> 00:46:54,044 My only, 936 00:46:54,044 --> 00:46:57,581 issue is that we're running out of time here in Jamaica so, 937 00:46:57,581 --> 00:46:59,349 hopefully someone sees it. 938 00:46:59,349 --> 00:47:02,553 (Moody xylophone music) 939 00:47:02,553 --> 00:47:04,087 Did you ever hear the name Sheila Rickards? 940 00:47:04,087 --> 00:47:06,089 - Sheila Rickards? 941 00:47:06,089 --> 00:47:08,358 - I don't remember her. 942 00:47:08,358 --> 00:47:09,693 - Sheila Rickards. 943 00:47:09,693 --> 00:47:11,061 I don't recall that person. 944 00:47:11,061 --> 00:47:13,363 (moody music) 945 00:47:13,363 --> 00:47:16,366 - You don't know this lady from 7th street name... 946 00:47:16,366 --> 00:47:17,901 - Sheila, Sheila, Sheila. 947 00:47:17,901 --> 00:47:19,770 - Sheila Rickards? 948 00:47:19,770 --> 00:47:20,971 - Sheila Rickards. 949 00:47:20,971 --> 00:47:23,740 (Moody music) 950 00:47:25,475 --> 00:47:26,944 - Sheila Rickards. 951 00:47:26,944 --> 00:47:28,212 - Sheila Rickards, 952 00:47:28,212 --> 00:47:31,481 I don't think she's still alive, is she? 953 00:47:31,481 --> 00:47:33,417 A long long long time. 954 00:47:34,184 --> 00:47:36,587 - Did you ever hear any stories about where she ended up? 955 00:47:36,587 --> 00:47:38,455 - Nope I don't know. 956 00:47:38,455 --> 00:47:40,057 - I do not know where Sheila is, 957 00:47:40,057 --> 00:47:41,391 but the last I might heard, 958 00:47:41,391 --> 00:47:43,393 she was D-E-A-D. 959 00:47:52,369 --> 00:47:55,038 (phone ringing) 960 00:47:57,374 --> 00:47:58,208 - Okay. 961 00:48:00,744 --> 00:48:02,179 Okay great, hang on a sec. 962 00:48:02,179 --> 00:48:04,114 Let me just get your number. 963 00:48:07,251 --> 00:48:08,652 Okay fantastic. 964 00:48:08,652 --> 00:48:10,087 Alright thank you so much. 965 00:48:10,087 --> 00:48:12,122 I'm really looking forward to meeting you. 966 00:48:12,122 --> 00:48:12,956 Okay take care. 967 00:48:14,391 --> 00:48:15,192 Okay. 968 00:48:15,192 --> 00:48:17,294 That was a relative of Sheila's. 969 00:48:17,294 --> 00:48:19,596 I'm not sure of the exact relationship, 970 00:48:19,596 --> 00:48:21,431 but she saw the ad in the paper, 971 00:48:21,431 --> 00:48:23,500 and she has time to meet today, 972 00:48:23,500 --> 00:48:25,235 so we're going to Devon House. 973 00:48:25,235 --> 00:48:27,971 So I don't know if it's good or bad to be honest. 974 00:48:27,971 --> 00:48:30,440 Yeah, really, really excited right now. 975 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,043 (Jaunty reggae music) 976 00:48:40,717 --> 00:48:42,619 I'm gonna make sure the ringer's on. 977 00:48:42,619 --> 00:48:45,188 (reggae music) 978 00:48:46,957 --> 00:48:49,626 Is that her? No... fuck. 979 00:48:51,094 --> 00:48:54,264 Okay, an hour and 20 minutes late now. 980 00:48:54,264 --> 00:48:56,500 Should I call or is this getting pushy now. 981 00:48:56,500 --> 00:48:57,601 I don't know what the hell to do at this point. 982 00:48:57,601 --> 00:48:59,636 We're leaving first thing tomorrow morning. 983 00:49:00,671 --> 00:49:02,205 I just need to know either way, 984 00:49:02,205 --> 00:49:03,307 if she's still alive or not, 985 00:49:03,307 --> 00:49:04,274 if she's here, 986 00:49:04,274 --> 00:49:05,409 if she moved away. 987 00:49:06,076 --> 00:49:07,744 Like, ugh, 988 00:49:07,744 --> 00:49:08,578 I feel like I got really close, 989 00:49:08,578 --> 00:49:10,180 but now I don't know what to do. 990 00:49:11,782 --> 00:49:13,150 Hi this is Chris again. 991 00:49:13,150 --> 00:49:15,018 Just wondering if we're still meeting today. 992 00:49:15,018 --> 00:49:16,753 Please give me a call. 993 00:49:16,753 --> 00:49:18,021 I would love to talk to you. 994 00:49:18,021 --> 00:49:19,056 Okay bubye. 995 00:49:19,056 --> 00:49:20,424 (reggae music) 996 00:49:23,794 --> 00:49:26,830 I go back to Canada tomorrow. 997 00:49:26,830 --> 00:49:28,365 I have to say I'm just pretty disappointed that, 998 00:49:28,365 --> 00:49:29,499 I couldn't find Sheila. 999 00:49:29,499 --> 00:49:30,367 I mean, 1000 00:49:31,001 --> 00:49:31,835 maybe this is just meant to be, 1001 00:49:31,835 --> 00:49:33,403 a mystery and meant to remain a mystery. 1002 00:49:33,403 --> 00:49:34,237 I don't know. 1003 00:49:34,237 --> 00:49:37,074 Right now I'm just exhausted and broke, 1004 00:49:37,074 --> 00:49:38,375 and I need to go home. 1005 00:49:38,375 --> 00:49:39,476 So, 1006 00:49:39,476 --> 00:49:41,345 that's where I'm at right now. 1007 00:49:41,345 --> 00:49:42,512 - [Andrew] And a little drunk. 1008 00:49:42,512 --> 00:49:45,349 - A little drunk, thank you for pointing that out. 1009 00:49:45,782 --> 00:49:48,352 (Ambient music) 1010 00:49:49,086 --> 00:49:50,454 [Chris]-Back in Toronto, 1011 00:49:50,454 --> 00:49:53,490 I tried to forget Sheila and focus on my work. 1012 00:49:53,490 --> 00:49:56,059 (Ambient music) 1013 00:50:01,431 --> 00:50:03,667 I bought new records almost every day, 1014 00:50:03,734 --> 00:50:06,403 but nothing came close to that voice. 1015 00:50:07,604 --> 00:50:08,438 Before long, 1016 00:50:08,572 --> 00:50:10,007 I was back on the search again. 1017 00:50:10,007 --> 00:50:11,208 (Dub music) 1018 00:50:11,208 --> 00:50:13,076 I'm heading to New York to meet Philip Smart, 1019 00:50:13,076 --> 00:50:15,078 aka Prince Philip, 1020 00:50:15,078 --> 00:50:18,281 who Bunny Lee says brought Sheila to the studio that day. 1021 00:50:19,282 --> 00:50:21,752 Philip was an apprentice to the great King Tubby, 1022 00:50:21,752 --> 00:50:24,888 and as a teenager, he created incredible reggae mixes, 1023 00:50:24,888 --> 00:50:26,690 and dub versions. 1024 00:50:26,690 --> 00:50:27,791 When he moved to New York, 1025 00:50:27,791 --> 00:50:31,061 he scored hit after hit out of his Long Island Studio, 1026 00:50:31,061 --> 00:50:32,863 which is where I'm headed right now. 1027 00:50:34,164 --> 00:50:36,333 (Dub Music) 1028 00:50:37,300 --> 00:50:39,636 Do you mind if we just film? 1029 00:50:40,937 --> 00:50:41,772 Mr Smart 1030 00:50:41,772 --> 00:50:42,606 Philip-Yes sir 1031 00:50:42,706 --> 00:50:43,573 Hi I'm Chris 1032 00:50:43,807 --> 00:50:44,775 - Great to meet you. 1033 00:50:45,008 --> 00:50:46,843 - [Chris] Thanks a lot for meeting with us. 1034 00:50:48,078 --> 00:50:49,446 - At the time, 1035 00:50:49,446 --> 00:50:51,615 I remember saying, 1036 00:50:51,615 --> 00:50:53,316 what is Bunny gonna do with, 1037 00:50:53,316 --> 00:50:55,018 this kind of song. 1038 00:50:55,018 --> 00:50:55,852 At the time, you know. 1039 00:50:56,820 --> 00:50:58,355 - Cause at the time it wasn't really something, 1040 00:50:58,355 --> 00:50:59,189 that was... 1041 00:50:59,189 --> 00:51:00,590 - It's not, the mainstream. 1042 00:51:00,590 --> 00:51:04,127 It wasn't a mainstream kind of reggae production 1043 00:51:04,127 --> 00:51:04,961 at the time. 1044 00:51:04,961 --> 00:51:08,932 But you know Bunny does a lot of different kind of stuff so, 1045 00:51:08,932 --> 00:51:10,000 you never know. 1046 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,601 He'll do this and it'll be a big hit. 1047 00:51:11,601 --> 00:51:13,770 - Right, right, right. 1048 00:51:13,770 --> 00:51:16,740 Well I mean we still don't have that much of a sense, 1049 00:51:16,740 --> 00:51:18,508 of what she was like. 1050 00:51:19,443 --> 00:51:23,213 - Well look I only knew her for a short time. 1051 00:51:24,948 --> 00:51:27,651 To me she was fabulous. 1052 00:51:27,651 --> 00:51:31,154 I think she was willing to try, 1053 00:51:31,154 --> 00:51:33,557 stuff in reggae that she'd never done before. 1054 00:51:33,557 --> 00:51:34,891 I mean, 1055 00:51:34,891 --> 00:51:35,725 it might have, 1056 00:51:36,927 --> 00:51:40,330 to her it might have seemed like reggae wasn't big thing, 1057 00:51:40,330 --> 00:51:41,932 compared to what she was doing. 1058 00:51:41,932 --> 00:51:44,801 But when she actually did it, 1059 00:51:44,801 --> 00:51:46,169 she enjoyed it. 1060 00:51:46,169 --> 00:51:47,404 She started to get into it, 1061 00:51:47,404 --> 00:51:48,905 and then she wanted to do more. 1062 00:51:48,905 --> 00:51:50,240 That's what I remember. 1063 00:51:50,240 --> 00:51:51,274 - So yeah Bunny Lee told me, 1064 00:51:51,274 --> 00:51:52,442 that you brought her to the studio, 1065 00:51:52,442 --> 00:51:54,044 but he brought her there? 1066 00:51:54,044 --> 00:51:55,946 - He first introduced me to her. 1067 00:51:55,946 --> 00:51:56,780 He brought her, 1068 00:51:56,780 --> 00:51:58,648 then he left her, 1069 00:51:58,648 --> 00:52:01,985 with me to go ahead and, 1070 00:52:01,985 --> 00:52:03,320 do the recordings. 1071 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:04,154 - [Chris] Okay. 1072 00:52:04,154 --> 00:52:06,289 Yeah he actually told me that she was your girlfriend. 1073 00:52:06,289 --> 00:52:09,159 Is that the case? 1074 00:52:09,159 --> 00:52:11,161 - That's a little far fetched. 1075 00:52:11,161 --> 00:52:13,396 (laughing) 1076 00:52:15,799 --> 00:52:18,235 We developed a friendship, 1077 00:52:19,169 --> 00:52:20,504 I was trying to show her, 1078 00:52:20,504 --> 00:52:24,007 what reggae was about in Jamaica because, 1079 00:52:24,007 --> 00:52:28,345 it was strange to me how Jamaican didn't really understand, 1080 00:52:28,345 --> 00:52:29,546 how we did reggae. 1081 00:52:29,546 --> 00:52:32,315 So she enjoyed the recording process. 1082 00:52:32,315 --> 00:52:35,552 Of whoever I was recording for the day, 1083 00:52:35,552 --> 00:52:37,420 and she sat there and watched how we did it. 1084 00:52:37,420 --> 00:52:41,124 - When I was in Jamaica we got this footage from... 1085 00:52:42,559 --> 00:52:44,060 - Where did you get this footage? 1086 00:52:44,060 --> 00:52:45,929 - [Chris] From the library in Jamaica. 1087 00:52:45,929 --> 00:52:46,763 - Wow 1088 00:52:46,763 --> 00:52:49,099 I don't know what this was from. 1089 00:52:54,638 --> 00:52:57,440 - Yeah I always wondered what happened to her. 1090 00:52:59,142 --> 00:53:01,778 It's like you meet somebody and, 1091 00:53:01,778 --> 00:53:03,713 you know you're working together. 1092 00:53:03,713 --> 00:53:05,782 I wonder if she, 1093 00:53:05,782 --> 00:53:06,816 got a big hit. 1094 00:53:06,816 --> 00:53:08,552 She changed her, 1095 00:53:08,552 --> 00:53:09,586 artist name. 1096 00:53:09,586 --> 00:53:10,854 She probably changed her artist name, 1097 00:53:10,854 --> 00:53:14,090 from Sheila to something else that we don't even know. 1098 00:53:14,090 --> 00:53:17,160 - Yeah, so the mystery continues I guess. 1099 00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,730 - Well, you have your work cut out for you, you know. 1100 00:53:20,730 --> 00:53:21,731 (laughing) 1101 00:53:21,731 --> 00:53:22,799 Well if you find her, 1102 00:53:22,799 --> 00:53:24,834 ask her if she remembers me. 1103 00:53:24,834 --> 00:53:25,669 - I will. 1104 00:53:25,669 --> 00:53:28,104 - Her first reggae encounter. 1105 00:53:28,104 --> 00:53:28,939 - First and last! 1106 00:53:28,939 --> 00:53:30,740 - Probably her last man! 1107 00:53:30,740 --> 00:53:31,541 (laughing) 1108 00:53:31,541 --> 00:53:33,577 Philip suggested we talk to Larry McDonald, 1109 00:53:33,577 --> 00:53:36,279 who was Gil Scott Heron's percussionist for decades. 1110 00:53:37,214 --> 00:53:38,648 He's a jazz and reggae musician 1111 00:53:38,648 --> 00:53:40,150 who performed with Sheila Rickards, 1112 00:53:40,150 --> 00:53:42,085 on the hotel circuit in Jamaica, 1113 00:53:42,085 --> 00:53:43,987 back in the early 60's. 1114 00:53:43,987 --> 00:53:45,989 I'm meeting him at this apartment in the east village, 1115 00:53:45,989 --> 00:53:47,991 to see what he remembers. 1116 00:53:49,025 --> 00:53:51,695 - I keep hearing that she went to Australia. 1117 00:53:52,996 --> 00:53:54,297 (laughing) 1118 00:53:54,297 --> 00:53:56,933 - That's just so crazy to me. 1119 00:53:56,933 --> 00:54:00,070 That's so crazy to me, like being from Australia, 1120 00:54:00,070 --> 00:54:02,072 the idea of her ending up back in Australia. 1121 00:54:02,072 --> 00:54:03,807 Where did you hear this? 1122 00:54:04,774 --> 00:54:06,576 - It was like, 1123 00:54:06,576 --> 00:54:07,444 a rumor, 1124 00:54:11,448 --> 00:54:15,018 among musicians, a strong strong rumor for a long time. 1125 00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,789 Let me call Janet Enright. 1126 00:54:20,657 --> 00:54:23,460 There's one specific thing I called you to ask. 1127 00:54:23,460 --> 00:54:26,263 Do you, what do you remember, 1128 00:54:26,263 --> 00:54:28,832 of Sheila, Sheila Rickards? 1129 00:54:29,733 --> 00:54:32,002 Did she leave Jamaica? 1130 00:54:32,002 --> 00:54:33,570 Where did she go when she left home? 1131 00:54:33,570 --> 00:54:34,404 Do you know? 1132 00:54:34,404 --> 00:54:36,640 - [Janet Enright] I think she's in Florida. 1133 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,908 - You think she's in Florida? 1134 00:54:38,908 --> 00:54:41,811 Well, why I'm asking right, 1135 00:54:43,713 --> 00:54:45,348 I'm sitting up here, 1136 00:54:46,650 --> 00:54:49,185 with this guy who is a Sheila Rickards nut. 1137 00:54:50,253 --> 00:54:53,223 He came across one record from her in the 70's. 1138 00:54:54,891 --> 00:54:58,161 He's on this quest, 1139 00:54:59,029 --> 00:55:01,631 to find out everything that he can about her. 1140 00:55:03,300 --> 00:55:04,668 I'm trying to tell him, 1141 00:55:04,668 --> 00:55:08,038 what kind of dynamic performer Sheila was. 1142 00:55:08,038 --> 00:55:09,406 - [Janet] No man, She was awesome man 1143 00:55:09,406 --> 00:55:11,174 Sheila was awesome. 1144 00:55:11,174 --> 00:55:13,043 In more ways than just a performer. 1145 00:55:13,043 --> 00:55:13,910 She was awesome. 1146 00:55:14,077 --> 00:55:16,446 - But I heard she had gone to Australia. 1147 00:55:18,214 --> 00:55:21,785 Then there was talk that she was in New York. 1148 00:55:22,185 --> 00:55:24,454 Then there was talk that she was in, 1149 00:55:25,322 --> 00:55:26,156 California. 1150 00:55:27,123 --> 00:55:29,092 - [Chris] Is it really possible that Sheila Rickards, 1151 00:55:29,092 --> 00:55:31,027 moved to Australia and went underground, 1152 00:55:31,027 --> 00:55:33,463 sometime in the 60's or 70's? 1153 00:55:33,463 --> 00:55:34,331 I don't know. 1154 00:55:34,331 --> 00:55:36,599 I think Los Angeles seems a bit more likely. 1155 00:55:36,599 --> 00:55:38,935 And there was that rumor that the great soul icon, 1156 00:55:38,935 --> 00:55:41,104 Sam Cooke arranged for her to come to L.A., 1157 00:55:41,104 --> 00:55:42,872 to pursue her singing career. 1158 00:55:43,707 --> 00:55:44,941 Right now I don't have any way, 1159 00:55:44,941 --> 00:55:47,177 of communicating with Sam Cooke. 1160 00:55:47,177 --> 00:55:48,578 But I'm heading to the city of angels, 1161 00:55:48,578 --> 00:55:50,480 to see if I can find any trace, 1162 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:51,981 of Sheila Rickards. 1163 00:55:51,981 --> 00:55:54,584 (Ambient music) 1164 00:55:58,054 --> 00:56:00,957 Before I left, I put an ad in the L.A. Times. 1165 00:56:00,957 --> 00:56:02,692 Let's hope somebody gets in touch, 1166 00:56:02,692 --> 00:56:04,294 and can help me out with this mystery. 1167 00:56:04,294 --> 00:56:06,896 (Lounge music) 1168 00:56:15,572 --> 00:56:17,640 I've just had a really lucky break. 1169 00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,576 A private detective called William Roberts, 1170 00:56:19,576 --> 00:56:21,010 saw the ad in the newspaper, 1171 00:56:21,010 --> 00:56:24,447 and he's offering to help try and locate Sheila Rickards. 1172 00:56:24,447 --> 00:56:26,182 - Under the name Sheila Rickards, 1173 00:56:26,182 --> 00:56:28,551 there's nobody between the ages of, 1174 00:56:28,551 --> 00:56:29,386 65 or 78. 1175 00:56:30,420 --> 00:56:31,621 - Okay. 1176 00:56:31,621 --> 00:56:33,089 - Throughout the United States. 1177 00:56:33,089 --> 00:56:34,057 - [Chris] Alright. 1178 00:56:34,057 --> 00:56:35,191 - As for marriage records. 1179 00:56:35,191 --> 00:56:37,460 Under Sheila Rickards. 1180 00:56:37,460 --> 00:56:40,096 So I found one that I thought might be possible. 1181 00:56:40,096 --> 00:56:42,532 It was a woman who married a Japanese guy, 1182 00:56:42,532 --> 00:56:45,101 in Las Vegas, 1183 00:56:46,569 --> 00:56:48,304 but the age is wrong. 1184 00:56:48,304 --> 00:56:50,673 - I'd be very surprised if she wasn't here performing, 1185 00:56:50,673 --> 00:56:51,508 in the States. 1186 00:56:51,508 --> 00:56:53,443 You'd think that that was her kind of, 1187 00:56:54,411 --> 00:56:55,578 reason for coming here. 1188 00:56:56,446 --> 00:56:58,081 - Yeah unless it was for love. 1189 00:56:58,081 --> 00:56:59,883 - Well yeah, yeah. 1190 00:56:59,883 --> 00:57:00,717 That's true. 1191 00:57:01,818 --> 00:57:02,652 - Some people do that. 1192 00:57:02,652 --> 00:57:04,053 Give up their careers and, 1193 00:57:06,256 --> 00:57:07,090 just settle down. 1194 00:57:08,358 --> 00:57:09,759 - [Chris] Have you ever had experience, 1195 00:57:09,759 --> 00:57:10,760 when you're trying to locate people, 1196 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,896 of people not wanting to be found? 1197 00:57:15,999 --> 00:57:17,700 - [William] People who usually don't want to be found, 1198 00:57:17,700 --> 00:57:20,203 take great lengths to not be found. 1199 00:57:20,203 --> 00:57:21,838 And if you're good at it, 1200 00:57:21,838 --> 00:57:22,806 you won't be found. 1201 00:57:24,107 --> 00:57:26,176 You have to get off the grid entirely. 1202 00:57:26,176 --> 00:57:27,010 That means, 1203 00:57:27,977 --> 00:57:29,312 you can't use your real name. 1204 00:57:29,312 --> 00:57:30,914 You don't use a cell phone. 1205 00:57:30,914 --> 00:57:32,115 You don't get magazines. 1206 00:57:32,115 --> 00:57:33,316 You don't have credit cards. 1207 00:57:33,316 --> 00:57:35,151 That's how you get off the grid. 1208 00:57:35,151 --> 00:57:37,754 (Mysterious music) 1209 00:57:40,089 --> 00:57:41,057 - [Chris] Before long, 1210 00:57:41,057 --> 00:57:43,560 someone saw the ad and got in touch. 1211 00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,261 Dorothy, who runs the U.S. arm, 1212 00:57:45,261 --> 00:57:47,063 of the Jamaican Jazz Festival, 1213 00:57:47,063 --> 00:57:48,665 says she was sent a package, 1214 00:57:48,665 --> 00:57:52,001 by someone called Sheila Rickards not that long ago. 1215 00:57:52,001 --> 00:57:53,403 I'm racing over to meet her. 1216 00:57:54,671 --> 00:57:56,105 [Dorothy]- I had gotten, 1217 00:57:57,807 --> 00:57:58,641 a call, 1218 00:57:59,609 --> 00:58:04,047 from this person who identified herself as, 1219 00:58:04,047 --> 00:58:04,881 Sheila Rickards. 1220 00:58:04,881 --> 00:58:08,318 So we opened dialogue. 1221 00:58:08,318 --> 00:58:09,719 - [Chris] Now when was this? 1222 00:58:11,421 --> 00:58:14,824 - I would say at least five years ago. 1223 00:58:14,824 --> 00:58:15,658 At least five. 1224 00:58:15,658 --> 00:58:18,328 It could be between five and seven. 1225 00:58:18,328 --> 00:58:20,930 - [Chris] Okay and you're sure it was Sheila Rickards? 1226 00:58:20,930 --> 00:58:22,532 - I am sure because, 1227 00:58:23,633 --> 00:58:26,836 we communicated for a short time. 1228 00:58:26,836 --> 00:58:30,306 At the time I think she was living in Oregon. 1229 00:58:30,306 --> 00:58:31,140 - In Oregon. 1230 00:58:31,140 --> 00:58:32,242 - Right. 1231 00:58:32,242 --> 00:58:33,743 So at the time, 1232 00:58:33,743 --> 00:58:36,646 I did have information on her. 1233 00:58:36,646 --> 00:58:37,480 - [Chris] Okay. 1234 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:38,448 This is really... 1235 00:58:38,448 --> 00:58:40,183 - And I'm sure if I search, 1236 00:58:40,183 --> 00:58:42,151 I will find it. 1237 00:58:42,151 --> 00:58:43,386 There are stacks, 1238 00:58:43,386 --> 00:58:46,556 I mean boxes of, 1239 00:58:46,556 --> 00:58:47,891 submissions. 1240 00:58:47,891 --> 00:58:50,727 So I'm sure there will be a CD, 1241 00:58:50,727 --> 00:58:53,463 and whatever the last contact is. 1242 00:58:53,463 --> 00:58:57,100 I have a box of something in here. 1243 00:58:57,100 --> 00:58:59,068 But I don't know if that is, 1244 00:58:59,068 --> 00:59:00,837 one of the boxes. 1245 00:59:08,411 --> 00:59:11,147 (Mysterious music) 1246 00:59:16,853 --> 00:59:18,521 [Dorothy]-I don't know whether you want to call it, 1247 00:59:18,521 --> 00:59:21,457 the mind energy or, 1248 00:59:21,457 --> 00:59:22,525 you know you can, 1249 00:59:22,525 --> 00:59:24,994 talk about something enough that it appears, 1250 00:59:24,994 --> 00:59:26,663 you never know. 1251 00:59:26,663 --> 00:59:28,765 We'll just keep the search going. 1252 00:59:28,765 --> 00:59:31,534 (rhythmic music) 1253 01:00:18,314 --> 01:00:19,549 [Chris]- It's my last day in L.A., 1254 01:00:19,549 --> 01:00:21,517 and I'm still no closer to Sheila. 1255 01:00:22,385 --> 01:00:23,620 The private detective suspects, 1256 01:00:23,620 --> 01:00:24,954 Sheila might have got married, 1257 01:00:24,954 --> 01:00:26,856 and changed her name. 1258 01:00:26,856 --> 01:00:28,424 My strongest lead is Dorothy, 1259 01:00:28,424 --> 01:00:30,159 but she still can't find an envelope, 1260 01:00:30,159 --> 01:00:33,029 that would reveal Sheila's most recent address. 1261 01:00:33,029 --> 01:00:34,430 I'm not sure what to do anymore, 1262 01:00:34,430 --> 01:00:36,499 and I'm starting to get desperate. 1263 01:00:36,499 --> 01:00:38,901 You know Venice Beach is a bit of a freak show. 1264 01:00:38,901 --> 01:00:40,536 And I walked past last night. 1265 01:00:40,536 --> 01:00:42,705 There's like a psychic right on the esplanade. 1266 01:00:42,705 --> 01:00:43,773 And frankly, 1267 01:00:43,773 --> 01:00:46,175 I'm extremely skeptical about all this stuff. 1268 01:00:47,176 --> 01:00:48,444 Honestly I think it's a lot of bullshit. 1269 01:00:48,444 --> 01:00:51,347 But at this point, I'm willing to try anything so, 1270 01:00:51,347 --> 01:00:53,116 let me go in and see, 1271 01:00:54,584 --> 01:00:55,752 yeah. 1272 01:00:55,752 --> 01:00:57,720 See if some second sight will, 1273 01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:59,255 get me any closer to Sheila. 1274 01:01:01,624 --> 01:01:04,394 (Dub music with electronics) 1275 01:01:11,934 --> 01:01:13,102 Okay that was really freaky. 1276 01:01:13,102 --> 01:01:15,705 I'm just gonna describe what happened in there. 1277 01:01:15,705 --> 01:01:17,040 She took me inside a dark room, 1278 01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:18,941 and asked me why I'd come to see her. 1279 01:01:20,043 --> 01:01:21,344 I told her about Sheila, 1280 01:01:21,344 --> 01:01:22,311 and gave her a photo, 1281 01:01:22,311 --> 01:01:24,981 to see if she could tell me where I should be looking. 1282 01:01:26,416 --> 01:01:27,984 She had this huge crystal ball, 1283 01:01:27,984 --> 01:01:29,252 which she stared into, 1284 01:01:29,252 --> 01:01:30,453 for about a minute. 1285 01:01:30,453 --> 01:01:34,090 And then told me that Sheila Rickards is dead. 1286 01:01:34,090 --> 01:01:36,392 That she'd passed away in California. 1287 01:01:37,293 --> 01:01:39,495 I don't know what to think about that. 1288 01:01:39,495 --> 01:01:41,397 I suppose it does make some kind of sense, 1289 01:01:41,397 --> 01:01:43,232 but I really hope she's wrong. 1290 01:01:44,367 --> 01:01:45,802 She also said that Sheila, 1291 01:01:45,802 --> 01:01:48,971 married a man with an unusual European name. 1292 01:01:48,971 --> 01:01:49,972 And she did one better, 1293 01:01:49,972 --> 01:01:52,008 she gave me the name Yennis. 1294 01:01:52,008 --> 01:01:54,577 Y-E-N-N-I-S. 1295 01:01:54,577 --> 01:01:56,446 So maybe another clue to investigate? 1296 01:01:57,513 --> 01:02:00,149 You know I don't really buy into all this stuff. 1297 01:02:00,149 --> 01:02:02,051 But there was a few things she managed to put her finger on, 1298 01:02:02,051 --> 01:02:03,519 that I hadn't told her, 1299 01:02:03,519 --> 01:02:05,855 which freaked me out a little bit to be honest. 1300 01:02:06,789 --> 01:02:08,191 So as weird as it sounds, 1301 01:02:08,191 --> 01:02:10,693 since I've got no other options at this point, 1302 01:02:10,693 --> 01:02:12,729 I'm gonna follow up on this Yennis dude, 1303 01:02:12,729 --> 01:02:15,331 Sheila's possible husband and see what comes up. 1304 01:02:15,331 --> 01:02:17,934 (reggae music) 1305 01:02:21,738 --> 01:02:22,572 Sheila Yennis. 1306 01:02:22,572 --> 01:02:23,406 Try one N 1307 01:02:27,143 --> 01:02:29,679 Sheila Yenis, well that would definitely be an unusual name, 1308 01:02:29,679 --> 01:02:31,280 rhyming with penis. 1309 01:02:32,949 --> 01:02:34,417 No information found. 1310 01:02:37,987 --> 01:02:39,055 This whole thing is, 1311 01:02:39,055 --> 01:02:41,190 more than a little bit ridiculous. 1312 01:02:41,190 --> 01:02:42,825 Like I'm here, 1313 01:02:42,825 --> 01:02:43,960 looking up a name, 1314 01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:44,961 that was suggested to me, 1315 01:02:44,961 --> 01:02:46,062 by a psychic. 1316 01:02:46,062 --> 01:02:46,896 Like, 1317 01:02:48,231 --> 01:02:50,900 I'm starting to kind of wonder what on earth, 1318 01:02:50,900 --> 01:02:51,768 I'm doing here. 1319 01:02:51,768 --> 01:02:56,305 This obsession is getting a little bit out of hand. 1320 01:02:56,305 --> 01:02:57,707 I'm now following the advice, 1321 01:02:57,707 --> 01:03:01,144 of a complete cranks, 1322 01:03:01,144 --> 01:03:02,245 trying to find this woman. 1323 01:03:02,245 --> 01:03:04,781 I know next to nothing about her. 1324 01:03:04,781 --> 01:03:07,116 I should be like back in Canada with my girlfriend. 1325 01:03:07,116 --> 01:03:09,352 But instead I'm chasing this, 1326 01:03:09,352 --> 01:03:11,654 70 year old woman who, 1327 01:03:11,654 --> 01:03:13,623 probably doesn't even want to be found. 1328 01:03:15,124 --> 01:03:18,694 I guess I could contact the private detective and see if, 1329 01:03:18,694 --> 01:03:20,496 he can look for a Sheila Yenis but, 1330 01:03:20,496 --> 01:03:23,032 that also seems a bit crazy. 1331 01:03:24,500 --> 01:03:26,169 Yeah. 1332 01:03:26,169 --> 01:03:27,870 This is all getting a bit fucked up. 1333 01:03:44,754 --> 01:03:46,022 - [Female narrator] It's been two years, 1334 01:03:46,022 --> 01:03:48,491 Since Chris gave up the search for Sheila. 1335 01:03:49,792 --> 01:03:51,661 Well to be honest, 1336 01:03:51,661 --> 01:03:54,564 he never really stopped looking. 1337 01:03:54,564 --> 01:03:56,632 He put ads in newspapers, 1338 01:03:56,632 --> 01:03:58,601 all across America, 1339 01:03:58,601 --> 01:04:01,404 hoping that someone would recognize, 1340 01:04:01,404 --> 01:04:04,307 Sheila's name or photograph, 1341 01:04:04,307 --> 01:04:06,309 and get in touch. 1342 01:04:06,309 --> 01:04:08,177 He's just been contacted, 1343 01:04:08,177 --> 01:04:10,880 by a private detective in Arizona. 1344 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:12,114 But this guy, 1345 01:04:12,114 --> 01:04:13,282 couldn't be more different, 1346 01:04:13,282 --> 01:04:15,651 from the one in Los Angeles. 1347 01:04:15,651 --> 01:04:17,787 He has a bit of an, 1348 01:04:17,787 --> 01:04:20,623 unusual sideline in, 1349 01:04:20,623 --> 01:04:23,826 paranormal investigations. 1350 01:04:24,827 --> 01:04:26,762 Basically, ghost hunting. 1351 01:04:27,830 --> 01:04:31,601 Chris, where do you find these people? 1352 01:04:31,601 --> 01:04:33,502 (dramatic music) 1353 01:04:33,502 --> 01:04:35,037 - My name is Lyle Sharman. 1354 01:04:35,037 --> 01:04:37,206 (beeping) 1355 01:04:40,142 --> 01:04:42,044 (dramatic music) 1356 01:04:42,044 --> 01:04:45,047 I'm a licensed private investigator. 1357 01:04:45,815 --> 01:04:47,717 Five years ago I became aware, 1358 01:04:47,717 --> 01:04:49,151 that there really are spirits, 1359 01:04:49,151 --> 01:04:50,720 and they want to tell their stories. 1360 01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:51,787 Is anybody in here? 1361 01:04:52,722 --> 01:04:54,757 (electronic beeps) 1362 01:04:54,757 --> 01:04:57,093 [Lyle]-So I know this stuff exists because, 1363 01:04:57,093 --> 01:04:59,195 I've done professional investigations, 1364 01:04:59,195 --> 01:05:00,263 and I've seen it happen. 1365 01:05:00,263 --> 01:05:01,397 - Okay. 1366 01:05:01,397 --> 01:05:02,231 - You know we've been interested in it, 1367 01:05:02,231 --> 01:05:03,532 for quite a few years. 1368 01:05:03,532 --> 01:05:04,367 - Okay. 1369 01:05:04,367 --> 01:05:08,771 - And being a PI I wanted to take a much more, 1370 01:05:08,771 --> 01:05:10,773 scientifical, investigative, 1371 01:05:10,773 --> 01:05:13,376 realistic approach to the whole thing. 1372 01:05:13,376 --> 01:05:14,310 - Right. 1373 01:05:14,310 --> 01:05:15,978 I really appreciate you getting involved cause, 1374 01:05:15,978 --> 01:05:17,980 you know I feel like I've hit a bit of wall. 1375 01:05:17,980 --> 01:05:19,415 I've done a lot of, 1376 01:05:19,415 --> 01:05:20,249 my own digging, 1377 01:05:20,249 --> 01:05:22,218 but I feel like at this point I really need, 1378 01:05:22,218 --> 01:05:23,786 a professional involved. 1379 01:05:23,786 --> 01:05:26,923 (reggae music) 1380 01:05:26,923 --> 01:05:28,891 It's time to call Lyle and see if he's around. 1381 01:05:28,891 --> 01:05:29,859 - [Lyle] Hey Chris how are ya? 1382 01:05:29,859 --> 01:05:32,395 - [Chris] Not too bad, happy New Year. 1383 01:05:32,395 --> 01:05:33,663 - [Lyle] Happy New Year to you. 1384 01:05:33,663 --> 01:05:34,497 - [Chris] Oh hi is this the private investigators? 1385 01:05:34,497 --> 01:05:36,332 (Gun shots) 1386 01:05:36,332 --> 01:05:37,300 - [Lyle] Yes it is. 1387 01:05:38,301 --> 01:05:39,969 - [Chris] So you said you had some good news. 1388 01:05:39,969 --> 01:05:41,704 - Well I think it's pretty good news. 1389 01:05:41,704 --> 01:05:44,440 Okay so anyways, I ran that comprehensive report, 1390 01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:46,175 which turned out to be a really good thing. 1391 01:05:46,175 --> 01:05:47,243 - Okay. 1392 01:05:47,243 --> 01:05:49,712 - So I came up with a few different phone numbers, 1393 01:05:49,712 --> 01:05:53,449 other than the one that I had been trying constantly. 1394 01:05:53,449 --> 01:05:55,184 Honestly I don't see anything in here, 1395 01:05:55,184 --> 01:05:56,719 that indicates that, 1396 01:05:56,719 --> 01:05:57,687 Sheila's dead. 1397 01:05:57,687 --> 01:05:59,188 - So you think we've got the right Sheila here? 1398 01:05:59,522 --> 01:06:00,489 - Absolutely. 1399 01:06:00,489 --> 01:06:01,791 Personally what I'm seeing, 1400 01:06:01,791 --> 01:06:03,626 I think she's still alive. 1401 01:06:03,626 --> 01:06:07,396 And I think she's probably living in Mississippi. 1402 01:06:07,396 --> 01:06:09,065 - Mississippi? 1403 01:06:11,534 --> 01:06:13,035 Okay so I'm just about to call Lyle, 1404 01:06:13,035 --> 01:06:14,470 once again. 1405 01:06:14,470 --> 01:06:17,139 He's just sent me an email asking, 1406 01:06:17,473 --> 01:06:18,607 me to give him a call as soon as I can. 1407 01:06:18,607 --> 01:06:20,843 So I think there's news. 1408 01:06:20,843 --> 01:06:21,677 It's very exciting. 1409 01:06:21,677 --> 01:06:23,079 I'm gonna give him a Skype call and, 1410 01:06:23,079 --> 01:06:24,981 we'll see what happens here. 1411 01:06:24,981 --> 01:06:27,316 - Okay well let's just go over this stuff with you. 1412 01:06:27,316 --> 01:06:28,351 - [Chris] Okay. 1413 01:06:28,351 --> 01:06:29,318 - [Lyle] Wrong lead. 1414 01:06:29,318 --> 01:06:30,820 - Really? 1415 01:06:30,820 --> 01:06:32,221 - [Lyle] None of it was the right person. 1416 01:06:32,221 --> 01:06:34,023 - Oh my God, serious. 1417 01:06:34,023 --> 01:06:34,857 - [Lyle] Yeah. 1418 01:06:34,857 --> 01:06:36,192 - [Chris] That's crazy. 1419 01:06:36,192 --> 01:06:39,628 - So all that pretty much just turned out to be a waste. 1420 01:06:39,628 --> 01:06:41,697 - What, how did you find that out? 1421 01:06:41,697 --> 01:06:43,532 - [Lyle] I spoke to, 1422 01:06:43,532 --> 01:06:45,634 this Sheila that we were looking for. 1423 01:06:45,634 --> 01:06:47,269 - Oh, okay, okay. 1424 01:06:48,070 --> 01:06:49,138 - Yeah, yeah. 1425 01:06:49,138 --> 01:06:50,306 - [Lyle] Yeah not the right person. 1426 01:06:50,306 --> 01:06:51,574 - Oh man. 1427 01:06:51,574 --> 01:06:54,744 So just totally the wrong person. 1428 01:06:54,744 --> 01:06:55,578 - Yeah. 1429 01:06:55,578 --> 01:06:56,879 And I discovered one other thing. 1430 01:06:56,879 --> 01:06:58,314 - [Chris] Okay. 1431 01:06:58,314 --> 01:06:59,348 - I'm just screwing with ya, 1432 01:06:59,348 --> 01:07:01,083 I just got off the phone with her! 1433 01:07:01,083 --> 01:07:02,251 (laughing) 1434 01:07:02,251 --> 01:07:03,586 - You bastard!! 1435 01:07:03,586 --> 01:07:06,222 (laughing) 1436 01:07:06,222 --> 01:07:07,056 Are you serious? 1437 01:07:07,056 --> 01:07:08,357 You just got off the phone with her? 1438 01:07:08,357 --> 01:07:09,959 - Dead serious man. 1439 01:07:10,626 --> 01:07:12,294 We spent probably over an hour, 1440 01:07:12,294 --> 01:07:14,730 talking and she's an awesome lady. 1441 01:07:14,730 --> 01:07:16,599 - Wait this is Sheila Rickards? 1442 01:07:16,599 --> 01:07:17,433 - [Lyle] Yeah. 1443 01:07:17,433 --> 01:07:18,501 You just spoke to Sheila Rickards? 1444 01:07:18,501 --> 01:07:19,335 - [Lyle] Spoke to Sheila. 1445 01:07:19,335 --> 01:07:20,202 - Oh my God! 1446 01:07:21,537 --> 01:07:22,571 - [Lyle] She's alive and well. 1447 01:07:22,571 --> 01:07:23,406 - Oh! 1448 01:07:23,406 --> 01:07:24,740 - [Lyle] She told me all these stories about her, 1449 01:07:24,740 --> 01:07:25,975 and Sammy Davis Junior. 1450 01:07:26,575 --> 01:07:27,410 - Oh my God really. 1451 01:07:27,410 --> 01:07:29,311 - All the cool stuff she's ever done. 1452 01:07:29,311 --> 01:07:30,546 She could talk forever man. 1453 01:07:30,546 --> 01:07:31,647 She'll be great for a documentary. 1454 01:07:31,647 --> 01:07:34,750 - Oh I'm so fucking thrilled to hear that man. 1455 01:07:34,750 --> 01:07:35,951 You've made my well, 1456 01:07:35,951 --> 01:07:37,820 last four years I would say. 1457 01:07:37,820 --> 01:07:39,855 Did she have any idea, 1458 01:07:39,855 --> 01:07:41,657 that anyone was looking for her? 1459 01:07:41,657 --> 01:07:44,360 - [Lyle] She had no idea that anybody even paid attention, 1460 01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:47,897 to her music or who she was at all anymore. 1461 01:07:47,897 --> 01:07:51,600 - So do you think she's gonna be willing to talk to me? 1462 01:08:09,585 --> 01:08:12,321 (Mysterious xylophone music) 1463 01:08:23,365 --> 01:08:24,867 I am quite nervous. 1464 01:08:26,469 --> 01:08:28,504 I'm not entirely sure what to expect but, 1465 01:08:29,605 --> 01:08:30,840 yeah she's finally agreed to meet, 1466 01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:32,041 which is fantastic. 1467 01:08:32,041 --> 01:08:33,242 - [Emily] Where are we meeting her? 1468 01:08:33,242 --> 01:08:34,643 - Yeah that's kind of the weird thing. 1469 01:08:34,643 --> 01:08:35,578 I thought we'd go and, 1470 01:08:35,578 --> 01:08:36,512 meet them at their place. 1471 01:08:36,512 --> 01:08:38,447 But we're actually gonna go and meet them at, 1472 01:08:38,447 --> 01:08:40,249 a casino nearby, 1473 01:08:40,249 --> 01:08:41,317 at a cafe there. 1474 01:08:42,284 --> 01:08:44,186 Apparently Sheila used to be, 1475 01:08:44,186 --> 01:08:45,621 a professional poker player. 1476 01:08:46,856 --> 01:08:49,258 I guess that's the connection there. 1477 01:08:49,258 --> 01:08:50,759 Yeah she sounds like, 1478 01:08:50,759 --> 01:08:51,660 quite a character. 1479 01:08:52,528 --> 01:08:55,264 She actually doesn't want to appear on camera. 1480 01:08:55,264 --> 01:08:57,800 She's been sick lately so, 1481 01:08:57,800 --> 01:08:58,601 yeah. 1482 01:09:00,703 --> 01:09:02,738 We'll see, it's just too bad but, 1483 01:09:02,738 --> 01:09:04,373 hopefully I'll be able to recognize her anyway. 1484 01:09:04,373 --> 01:09:05,441 I think I'll be excited when I meet her, 1485 01:09:05,441 --> 01:09:07,076 but right now I'm just shitting myself. 1486 01:09:07,076 --> 01:09:08,244 (laughing) 1487 01:09:08,244 --> 01:09:10,980 (Moody mysterious music) 1488 01:09:16,018 --> 01:09:17,653 Could that be her there? 1489 01:09:17,653 --> 01:09:18,754 No. 1490 01:09:18,754 --> 01:09:19,822 It's not her. 1491 01:09:20,723 --> 01:09:23,993 [Emily] I see a white man and a brown woman coming up. 1492 01:09:23,993 --> 01:09:24,827 Do you? 1493 01:09:24,827 --> 01:09:25,661 - Yep. - Okay. 1494 01:09:25,661 --> 01:09:26,495 I think they're here. 1495 01:09:26,495 --> 01:09:27,963 - You think they're here. - Yeah. 1496 01:09:27,963 --> 01:09:29,532 So I think they may be here. 1497 01:09:29,532 --> 01:09:30,499 It's her? 1498 01:09:32,468 --> 01:09:33,536 - Hello. 1499 01:09:33,536 --> 01:09:34,370 - Hello. 1500 01:09:35,104 --> 01:09:37,439 [Emily\} Jump Up, go, go, go. 1501 01:09:38,407 --> 01:09:39,408 Hi. 1502 01:09:39,408 --> 01:09:42,144 (rhythmic music) 1503 01:09:44,013 --> 01:09:45,748 Well it's really great to finally meet you. 1504 01:09:45,748 --> 01:09:47,082 It's been, 1505 01:09:47,082 --> 01:09:47,950 quite a journey. 1506 01:09:47,950 --> 01:09:49,552 - [Sheila] Yes it has. 1507 01:09:49,552 --> 01:09:51,086 Nobody was more shocked, 1508 01:09:51,086 --> 01:09:51,921 - Yeah. 1509 01:09:51,921 --> 01:09:52,755 - [Sheila] Than I was. 1510 01:09:52,755 --> 01:09:54,423 I did not really wish to be, 1511 01:09:54,423 --> 01:09:55,524 found anymore. 1512 01:09:56,659 --> 01:09:58,327 Because it's been, 1513 01:09:58,327 --> 01:09:59,662 I broke my back about, 1514 01:09:59,662 --> 01:10:00,996 13 and a half years ago. 1515 01:10:00,996 --> 01:10:01,830 - Okay. 1516 01:10:01,830 --> 01:10:03,832 - [Sheila] And it's been a rough road for me. 1517 01:10:05,167 --> 01:10:06,101 I couldn't exercise. 1518 01:10:06,101 --> 01:10:08,204 And I'm the one, if I gain, 1519 01:10:08,204 --> 01:10:10,306 half an ounce, I'd be on the floor, you know. 1520 01:10:10,306 --> 01:10:11,674 - You look beautiful so, 1521 01:10:11,674 --> 01:10:12,708 you should not be camera shy. - Oh bless you heart. 1522 01:10:12,708 --> 01:10:13,542 I like you. 1523 01:10:13,542 --> 01:10:15,244 You can stay. (laughing) 1524 01:10:15,244 --> 01:10:16,512 - Okay I'm gonna ask one more time, 1525 01:10:16,512 --> 01:10:17,613 and then I won't ask again. 1526 01:10:17,613 --> 01:10:18,747 Is there any way we can film you? 1527 01:10:18,747 --> 01:10:19,815 You look beautiful. 1528 01:10:19,815 --> 01:10:20,749 You look great honestly. 1529 01:10:20,749 --> 01:10:21,584 - No. 1530 01:10:21,584 --> 01:10:22,618 This, look, 1531 01:10:22,618 --> 01:10:23,719 bad makeup. 1532 01:10:23,719 --> 01:10:24,687 'Cause I can't see. 1533 01:10:24,687 --> 01:10:25,487 Oh stop. 1534 01:10:25,487 --> 01:10:26,322 - Take a quick survey. 1535 01:10:26,322 --> 01:10:27,957 - [Andrew] Maybe like from a distance. 1536 01:10:27,957 --> 01:10:29,692 Just you guys sitting around? 1537 01:10:29,692 --> 01:10:31,060 - It would just be so nice to have... 1538 01:10:31,060 --> 01:10:32,962 - [Emily] Yeah we could have it from further back. 1539 01:10:32,962 --> 01:10:33,929 - [Sheila] Alright. 1540 01:10:33,929 --> 01:10:35,097 - Thank you, that would be fantastic. 1541 01:10:35,097 --> 01:10:36,265 - [Andrew] You're radiant. 1542 01:10:36,265 --> 01:10:37,499 - This is quite an adventure for you. 1543 01:10:37,499 --> 01:10:38,400 - It really is. 1544 01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:39,235 I mean, 1545 01:10:39,235 --> 01:10:41,237 it's incredible to me to be sitting here with you, 1546 01:10:41,237 --> 01:10:42,705 after all this time. 1547 01:10:42,705 --> 01:10:43,572 - This is wonderful. 1548 01:10:43,572 --> 01:10:46,575 This is a great, 1549 01:10:46,575 --> 01:10:48,277 honor and it's flattery, 1550 01:10:48,277 --> 01:10:50,412 oh it's a lot of flattery to me. 1551 01:10:52,414 --> 01:10:54,016 I'm not sure I deserve it. 1552 01:10:54,016 --> 01:10:55,017 - No well you certainly do. 1553 01:10:55,017 --> 01:10:56,752 I mean this track, 1554 01:10:56,752 --> 01:10:58,587 I've never made a documentary in my life. 1555 01:10:58,587 --> 01:11:00,656 I wasn't looking to make a documentary. 1556 01:11:00,656 --> 01:11:01,757 I just, 1557 01:11:01,757 --> 01:11:03,158 I found this song and it got, 1558 01:11:03,158 --> 01:11:04,760 so incredibly under my skin, 1559 01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:06,028 that I just had to find out, 1560 01:11:06,028 --> 01:11:08,731 who this incredible Shella Record was. 1561 01:11:08,731 --> 01:11:09,765 - Well you know something. 1562 01:11:09,765 --> 01:11:11,900 I believe in angels, 1563 01:11:11,900 --> 01:11:12,868 and sometimes, 1564 01:11:13,836 --> 01:11:15,170 you know our angels will put, 1565 01:11:15,170 --> 01:11:16,872 like put that stuff, 1566 01:11:16,872 --> 01:11:18,374 under, 1567 01:11:18,374 --> 01:11:20,509 a burr under your seat so to speak, 1568 01:11:20,509 --> 01:11:21,443 and let you do this. 1569 01:11:21,443 --> 01:11:23,812 Because I was really done with show business. 1570 01:11:23,812 --> 01:11:25,914 Which is why I'm doing what I'm doing. 1571 01:11:25,914 --> 01:11:27,383 I'm hiding. 1572 01:11:27,383 --> 01:11:30,152 Because I leave myself open, 1573 01:11:30,152 --> 01:11:31,020 to despair, 1574 01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:33,455 the end is despair. 1575 01:11:33,455 --> 01:11:35,958 And I'm so tired of people using me. 1576 01:11:35,958 --> 01:11:37,092 I'm so tired of, 1577 01:11:38,661 --> 01:11:40,296 I'm very chatty aren't I. 1578 01:11:40,296 --> 01:11:41,130 - Yeah I like it. 1579 01:11:41,130 --> 01:11:41,964 It's great. 1580 01:11:41,964 --> 01:11:42,765 (laughing) 1581 01:11:42,765 --> 01:11:44,433 - I should probably shut up and let you talk. 1582 01:11:44,433 --> 01:11:45,668 - No, no. 1583 01:11:45,668 --> 01:11:46,502 (laughing) 1584 01:11:46,502 --> 01:11:49,038 we've seen, well far too much of me in this film. 1585 01:11:49,271 --> 01:11:50,139 - Here's another one too. 1586 01:11:50,139 --> 01:11:50,973 I love this one. 1587 01:11:50,973 --> 01:11:51,807 - Oh my God. 1588 01:11:52,675 --> 01:11:54,143 16 years old, dude. 1589 01:11:54,143 --> 01:11:55,611 (laughing) 1590 01:11:55,611 --> 01:11:57,313 16 years old. 1591 01:11:58,514 --> 01:11:59,748 Trying to look like a woman. 1592 01:11:59,748 --> 01:12:01,550 Oh let me tell you. 1593 01:12:01,550 --> 01:12:06,055 With the pearls, and the makeup and the hairdo. 1594 01:12:06,055 --> 01:12:07,756 Not bad kid. 1595 01:12:07,756 --> 01:12:08,590 - [Chris] Its not bad at all. 1596 01:12:08,590 --> 01:12:09,925 - Tough you didn't make it. 1597 01:12:09,925 --> 01:12:11,694 (laughing) 1598 01:12:11,694 --> 01:12:12,628 - [Chris] You want to have a break now. 1599 01:12:12,628 --> 01:12:14,129 - Yes, let's have a break. 1600 01:12:14,129 --> 01:12:15,297 - Yeah, yeah let's go get some food. 1601 01:12:15,297 --> 01:12:17,900 (mellow music) 1602 01:12:18,734 --> 01:12:21,403 - There were two songs written for me in Jamaica. 1603 01:12:21,403 --> 01:12:23,739 And I don't remember if the second one made a hit, 1604 01:12:23,739 --> 01:12:24,907 but this one did. 1605 01:12:24,907 --> 01:12:25,774 It's called, 1606 01:12:26,842 --> 01:12:27,810 little Sheila. 1607 01:12:27,810 --> 01:12:31,547 # And if you see my little Sheila # 1608 01:12:31,547 --> 01:12:35,384 # Tell her to come on home # 1609 01:12:35,384 --> 01:12:38,687 # And if you see my little Sheila # 1610 01:12:38,687 --> 01:12:40,622 # Tell her to please come home # 1611 01:12:40,622 --> 01:12:42,458 (laughing) 1612 01:12:42,458 --> 01:12:44,059 I said that's cool. 1613 01:12:45,494 --> 01:12:47,930 I tell you who wrote a song for me 1614 01:12:48,063 --> 01:12:49,098 Sam Cooke, 1615 01:12:50,065 --> 01:12:53,102 who became like a loving big brother to me. 1616 01:12:53,102 --> 01:12:54,503 he put me on his knee, 1617 01:12:54,503 --> 01:12:56,271 and he put the guitar around him, 1618 01:12:56,271 --> 01:12:57,473 and he started playing. 1619 01:12:58,574 --> 01:13:01,844 And he wrote this song right there on the spot, 1620 01:13:01,844 --> 01:13:03,078 about me. 1621 01:13:03,078 --> 01:13:06,582 # Be nice to her # 1622 01:13:06,582 --> 01:13:10,519 # Whenever you can # 1623 01:13:10,519 --> 01:13:12,855 # And when you cross the street # 1624 01:13:12,855 --> 01:13:16,258 # Always hold her hand # 1625 01:13:16,258 --> 01:13:20,596 # 'Cause a little love to Sheila # 1626 01:13:20,596 --> 01:13:23,465 # Goes a long long way # 1627 01:13:23,465 --> 01:13:26,235 So the song was A Little Love Goes A Long Way. 1628 01:13:26,235 --> 01:13:27,770 - [Chris] Right, wow. 1629 01:13:27,770 --> 01:13:29,304 - But it was written, 1630 01:13:29,304 --> 01:13:31,306 for Sheila Rickards, or Shella Record. 1631 01:13:31,306 --> 01:13:33,842 (laughing) 1632 01:13:33,842 --> 01:13:35,544 - So you've got the sense that I've, 1633 01:13:35,544 --> 01:13:37,179 been a little bit obsessed with this song. 1634 01:13:37,179 --> 01:13:38,013 - Yeah. 1635 01:13:38,013 --> 01:13:39,681 That's the word I'd call it. 1636 01:13:39,681 --> 01:13:41,483 - I just, I kind of wonder what, 1637 01:13:41,483 --> 01:13:43,218 it must of been like for to hear, 1638 01:13:43,218 --> 01:13:45,521 that there was someone trying to track you down, 1639 01:13:45,521 --> 01:13:46,488 all these years later. 1640 01:13:46,488 --> 01:13:48,290 What you made of it? 1641 01:13:48,290 --> 01:13:49,124 - I was, 1642 01:13:51,460 --> 01:13:53,796 apprehensive and suspicious. 1643 01:13:53,796 --> 01:13:55,130 I did not know why, 1644 01:13:55,130 --> 01:13:56,632 you would go through, 1645 01:13:56,632 --> 01:13:58,467 what you did to find me, 1646 01:14:00,269 --> 01:14:03,071 because I had been away from, 1647 01:14:04,306 --> 01:14:08,043 music and show business, 1648 01:14:08,043 --> 01:14:10,078 for such a long time, 1649 01:14:10,078 --> 01:14:12,481 and been very happy away from it. 1650 01:14:12,481 --> 01:14:14,883 Because in Los Angeles, 1651 01:14:14,883 --> 01:14:19,054 whenever I wanted, I felt like I needed to go sing, 1652 01:14:19,054 --> 01:14:21,623 there were lots of little jazz clubs, 1653 01:14:21,623 --> 01:14:24,026 and all the piano players and all the musicians, 1654 01:14:24,026 --> 01:14:25,527 they all knew me. 1655 01:14:25,527 --> 01:14:27,429 And I'd go in there and, 1656 01:14:27,429 --> 01:14:29,064 we'd jam. 1657 01:14:29,064 --> 01:14:31,533 So that was my release. 1658 01:14:31,533 --> 01:14:33,502 I found my little niche. 1659 01:14:33,502 --> 01:14:35,437 I had my beautiful son. 1660 01:14:35,437 --> 01:14:37,372 I had my loving husband. 1661 01:14:37,372 --> 01:14:39,775 And that was good enough for me. 1662 01:14:39,775 --> 01:14:44,046 ("Jamaican Fruit of African Roots" by Sheila Rickards) 1663 01:14:45,914 --> 01:14:47,616 # We came # 1664 01:14:47,616 --> 01:14:52,087 # From a distant land # 1665 01:14:52,087 --> 01:14:57,092 # Our lives already planned # 1666 01:14:58,527 --> 01:15:00,262 # We came in ships # 1667 01:15:00,262 --> 01:15:05,133 # From across the sea # 1668 01:15:05,133 --> 01:15:07,736 # And never again our home # 1669 01:15:07,736 --> 01:15:11,540 # We'd see # 1670 01:15:11,540 --> 01:15:16,478 # And now we've become # 1671 01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:22,885 # Jamaican fruit # 1672 01:15:24,119 --> 01:15:27,022 # Of African roots # 1673 01:15:29,391 --> 01:15:32,060 You can't beat that rhythm baby. 1674 01:15:34,263 --> 01:15:35,297 - [Chris] What do these lyrics, 1675 01:15:35,297 --> 01:15:36,965 mean to you, as a Jamaican? 1676 01:15:36,965 --> 01:15:38,066 - To me. 1677 01:15:38,066 --> 01:15:40,168 A tale of what, 1678 01:15:40,168 --> 01:15:41,470 Jamaican's went through, 1679 01:15:41,470 --> 01:15:44,072 coming to, 1680 01:15:44,072 --> 01:15:47,276 Jamaica from Africa as slaves. 1681 01:15:47,276 --> 01:15:48,310 And how, 1682 01:15:49,211 --> 01:15:50,212 we got out of that, 1683 01:15:50,212 --> 01:15:51,580 it's time, 1684 01:15:51,580 --> 01:15:53,815 we stopped thinking of ourselves, 1685 01:15:53,815 --> 01:15:56,251 as secondary citizens. 1686 01:15:57,386 --> 01:15:59,688 And we're all Jamaican's of African roots. 1687 01:15:59,688 --> 01:16:01,723 In other words, let us all be one color. 1688 01:16:01,723 --> 01:16:06,728 # Let us all be black # 1689 01:16:07,729 --> 01:16:12,734 # Let us all be black # 1690 01:16:13,168 --> 01:16:18,140 # And Jamaican fruit # 1691 01:16:19,775 --> 01:16:22,711 # Of African roots # 1692 01:16:25,180 --> 01:16:26,848 (Moody ambient music) 1693 01:16:26,848 --> 01:16:28,584 [Female Narrator] 40 years ago, 1694 01:16:28,584 --> 01:16:31,453 before Chris was even an idea, 1695 01:16:32,354 --> 01:16:34,656 An uptown jazz singer, 1696 01:16:34,656 --> 01:16:35,958 from Greenwich town, 1697 01:16:35,958 --> 01:16:39,227 recorded her only reggae song, 1698 01:16:39,227 --> 01:16:41,096 in a bathroom studio, 1699 01:16:41,096 --> 01:16:42,564 in west Kingston. 1700 01:16:42,564 --> 01:16:46,768 A place from which an unlikely magic was born. 1701 01:16:47,636 --> 01:16:49,638 I don't know if it's magic dude. 1702 01:16:49,638 --> 01:16:51,006 [Chris] It is magic Sheila. 1703 01:16:51,540 --> 01:16:53,809 [Sheila] Great music has a power, 1704 01:16:53,809 --> 01:16:56,411 that can never be silenced. 1705 01:16:58,280 --> 01:16:59,781 It is patient. 1706 01:17:00,716 --> 01:17:02,718 It will bide it's time, 1707 01:17:03,885 --> 01:17:06,288 and will always find a way, 1708 01:17:06,288 --> 01:17:08,690 to seep through the cracks, 1709 01:17:08,690 --> 01:17:10,559 finding the people, 1710 01:17:10,559 --> 01:17:12,427 who need to hear it, 1711 01:17:12,427 --> 01:17:16,365 no matter how far it has to travel, 1712 01:17:16,365 --> 01:17:18,800 or how long it takes. 1713 01:17:23,038 --> 01:17:25,741 Even if we may choose to go silent, 1714 01:17:28,777 --> 01:17:29,611 I don't like him. 1715 01:17:29,611 --> 01:17:31,146 - [Chris] You don't like that line? 1716 01:17:31,146 --> 01:17:31,980 - I don't like you. 1717 01:17:31,980 --> 01:17:34,016 (laughing) 1718 01:17:34,016 --> 01:17:37,386 Even if we may choose to go silent. 1719 01:17:37,386 --> 01:17:39,721 What, you know. 1720 01:17:39,721 --> 01:17:42,024 What am I a dummy or something. 1721 01:17:42,024 --> 01:17:43,625 No! I'm not stupid. 1722 01:17:44,226 --> 01:17:45,594 No I'm not taking it out. 1723 01:17:45,594 --> 01:17:46,428 I'm not taking it out. 1724 01:17:47,362 --> 01:17:48,363 I'm just joking. 1725 01:17:48,363 --> 01:17:50,132 (laughing) 1726 01:17:50,132 --> 01:17:52,934 The universe may have other ideas. 1727 01:17:55,370 --> 01:17:58,407 From a disembodied voice, 1728 01:17:58,407 --> 01:18:02,811 captured on a circle of black plastic, 1729 01:18:02,811 --> 01:18:04,279 a person can. 1730 01:18:04,279 --> 01:18:06,548 If we follow the right process, 1731 01:18:06,548 --> 01:18:09,484 be conjured into reality. 1732 01:18:10,919 --> 01:18:13,155 Now it's all come full circle. 1733 01:18:14,456 --> 01:18:16,291 After finding her, 1734 01:18:16,291 --> 01:18:20,095 Chris decided he needed to do everything he can, 1735 01:18:20,095 --> 01:18:22,864 to share Sheila Rickards, 1736 01:18:22,864 --> 01:18:25,067 incredible voice with the world. 1737 01:18:27,769 --> 01:18:30,272 You think way too much of me dude. 1738 01:18:32,708 --> 01:18:34,209 What was the catalyst? 1739 01:18:35,944 --> 01:18:36,812 - [Chris] You're asking me now? 1740 01:18:36,812 --> 01:18:37,746 - Yes. 1741 01:18:37,746 --> 01:18:39,181 (laughing) 1742 01:18:39,181 --> 01:18:40,015 - [Chris] It was you. 1743 01:18:40,015 --> 01:18:40,849 It was your voice. 1744 01:18:40,849 --> 01:18:42,084 Simple as that. 1745 01:18:43,251 --> 01:18:44,286 - Are you sure? 1746 01:18:44,286 --> 01:18:45,420 - [Chris] I think so. 1747 01:18:45,420 --> 01:18:46,788 Can you explain anything different? 1748 01:18:46,788 --> 01:18:47,956 - No I don't know. 1749 01:18:47,956 --> 01:18:48,790 I don't know. 1750 01:18:48,790 --> 01:18:51,193 I think you were bitten by a duppy. 1751 01:18:51,193 --> 01:18:53,428 (laughing) 1752 01:18:54,896 --> 01:18:56,998 [Chris]- I thought it was crazy that the only people who knew this, 1753 01:18:56,998 --> 01:18:57,833 incredible song, 1754 01:18:57,833 --> 01:19:00,769 were a couple of record nerds in Toronto. 1755 01:19:00,769 --> 01:19:02,938 So with Sheila and Bunny's blessing, 1756 01:19:02,938 --> 01:19:04,573 I've started Shella Records, 1757 01:19:04,573 --> 01:19:06,742 and pressed up five hundred copies on vinyl. 1758 01:19:08,944 --> 01:19:10,378 - Right now, 1759 01:19:10,378 --> 01:19:11,947 this is Sheila Rickards, 1760 01:19:11,947 --> 01:19:13,348 Jamaican Fruit of African Roots. 1761 01:19:14,349 --> 01:19:15,250 Turn it up. 1762 01:19:15,250 --> 01:19:16,818 - It's a big tune, 1763 01:19:16,818 --> 01:19:18,420 coming from a big artist. 1764 01:19:18,420 --> 01:19:19,955 From way back when. 1765 01:19:19,955 --> 01:19:23,925 Jamaican fruit of African roots! 1766 01:19:23,925 --> 01:19:25,460 - This song is about slavery. 1767 01:19:25,460 --> 01:19:27,362 This song is about freedom. 1768 01:19:27,362 --> 01:19:28,597 Listen to this. 1769 01:19:31,032 --> 01:19:34,002 - Hear this next one, this is Jamaican Fruit, 1770 01:19:34,002 --> 01:19:35,237 by Sheila Rickards. 1771 01:19:35,237 --> 01:19:37,706 Deep story behind this tune. 1772 01:19:42,244 --> 01:19:43,678 - Last tune this one yeah, 1773 01:19:43,678 --> 01:19:44,980 Sheila Rickards. 1774 01:19:44,980 --> 01:19:49,951 You know the tune called Jamaican Fruit of African Roots. 1775 01:19:50,252 --> 01:19:54,456 ("Jamaican Fruit of African Roots" by Sheila Rickards) 1776 01:20:03,131 --> 01:20:04,800 # Our masters soil # 1777 01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:09,371 # We toiled from morn till night # 1778 01:20:09,371 --> 01:20:14,376 # Never given little human rights # 1779 01:20:14,643 --> 01:20:16,978 # Though long years passed # 1780 01:20:16,978 --> 01:20:20,782 # Things remained the same # 1781 01:20:20,782 --> 01:20:23,084 # Our little babies born # 1782 01:20:23,084 --> 01:20:27,455 # With no last names # 1783 01:20:27,455 --> 01:20:31,126 # Just tell me what's to become # 1784 01:20:31,126 --> 01:20:33,995 # Of the # 1785 01:20:33,995 --> 01:20:39,000 # Jamaican fruit # 1786 01:20:39,301 --> 01:20:44,005 # Of African roots # 1787 01:20:44,005 --> 01:20:48,977 # Me wan' fi forward on a yard # 1788 01:20:49,778 --> 01:20:54,783 # Me wan' fi forward on a yard # 1789 01:20:57,252 --> 01:21:02,057 # How were we to know # 1790 01:21:02,057 --> 01:21:07,062 # Just what this land would bring # 1791 01:21:07,896 --> 01:21:09,564 # And that our blood # 1792 01:21:09,564 --> 01:21:13,501 # Our very blood would flow # 1793 01:21:13,501 --> 01:21:18,506 # Because of the color of our skin # 1794 01:21:18,673 --> 01:21:22,344 # Being black # 1795 01:21:22,344 --> 01:21:23,845 # I am black # 1796 01:21:23,845 --> 01:21:26,414 # I love being black # 1797 01:21:26,414 --> 01:21:31,419 # Oh # 1798 01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:36,892 # The time has come for us to join hands # 1799 01:21:37,058 --> 01:21:39,461 # Let's not be punished by # 1800 01:21:39,461 --> 01:21:43,465 # The rules of this land # 1801 01:21:43,465 --> 01:21:48,470 # Now that we're aware of what we must do # 1802 01:21:48,603 --> 01:21:51,406 # Let us no longer be fools # 1803 01:21:51,406 --> 01:21:55,243 # No longer fools # 1804 01:21:55,243 --> 01:22:00,248 # Let us all be black # 1805 01:22:00,882 --> 01:22:05,887 # Let us all be black # 1806 01:22:06,421 --> 01:22:11,426 # And Jamaican fruit # 1807 01:22:13,161 --> 01:22:17,432 # Of African roots # 1808 01:22:17,432 --> 01:22:22,404 # Me wan' fi forward on a yard # 1809 01:22:23,071 --> 01:22:28,076 # Me wan' fi forward on a yard # 1810 01:22:29,744 --> 01:22:34,749 # Me wan', me wan', me wan' me wan' fi forward on a yard # 1811 01:22:34,816 --> 01:22:35,650 # Me wan' # 1812 01:22:35,650 --> 01:22:36,952 # Fi forward # 1813 01:22:36,952 --> 01:22:39,220 # I love to be black # 1814 01:22:39,220 --> 01:22:40,922 # I wanna be black # 1815 01:22:40,922 --> 01:22:43,091 # Leave me, let me be black # 1816 01:22:43,091 --> 01:22:46,361 # Black black is beautiful # 1817 01:22:46,361 --> 01:22:49,898 # Oh # 1818 01:22:49,898 --> 01:22:51,366 # African roots # 1819 01:22:51,366 --> 01:22:52,367 # (Horns fading out) # 124771

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