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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:34,100 --> 00:00:35,417 If our civilization, 2 00:00:35,500 --> 00:00:36,517 the lights go off 3 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,550 and the lights never come back on, 4 00:00:38,633 --> 00:00:41,417 for all intents and purposes, it's going back to dust, 5 00:00:41,500 --> 00:00:44,500 we will turn it back into the Stone Age eventually. 6 00:00:44,666 --> 00:00:46,150 Um... 7 00:00:46,233 --> 00:00:49,233 Because without that power this lifestyle stops. 8 00:00:50,166 --> 00:00:52,617 And you will be back working with clay. 9 00:00:52,700 --> 00:00:55,700 You will be back dealing with one of these. 10 00:01:04,666 --> 00:01:07,317 I happen to be on a year 2000 project 11 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,317 for the company that I work for 12 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,283 in making sure that their systems 13 00:01:11,366 --> 00:01:14,366 are going to make it across the millennium. 14 00:01:16,100 --> 00:01:19,083 We just can't get it all and so... 15 00:01:19,166 --> 00:01:20,182 And so you're here? 16 00:01:20,265 --> 00:01:23,265 Yeah. 17 00:01:36,066 --> 00:01:38,250 Computer buffs have known about it for years, 18 00:01:38,333 --> 00:01:40,817 but the rest of us, well, we're just finding out 19 00:01:40,900 --> 00:01:42,383 about a glitch you might say 20 00:01:42,466 --> 00:01:44,182 in the way most computers are programmed. 21 00:01:44,265 --> 00:01:45,417 There could be a meltdown 22 00:01:45,500 --> 00:01:48,500 when we cross from the year 1999 into 2000. 23 00:01:48,700 --> 00:01:50,550 And even if you don't own a computer, 24 00:01:50,633 --> 00:01:53,633 this is going to affect you in a big way. 25 00:01:59,433 --> 00:02:01,083 I feel like it could be the beginning 26 00:02:01,166 --> 00:02:02,750 of the end of the world. 27 00:02:02,833 --> 00:02:05,833 I feel like our days could be numbered. 28 00:02:06,966 --> 00:02:08,782 I feel like nuclear bombs could go off, 29 00:02:08,865 --> 00:02:11,750 nuclear plants could melt down, we could suffer famine. 30 00:02:11,833 --> 00:02:14,833 And I don't wanna go through this alone. 31 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,450 Y2K. 32 00:02:32,533 --> 00:02:35,533 How can we prepare individually? How can we work together? 33 00:02:36,733 --> 00:02:39,733 And how can we, humankind, utilize Y2K 34 00:02:41,033 --> 00:02:43,350 as an opportunity to look at ourselves, 35 00:02:43,433 --> 00:02:45,317 to analyze where we've been, 36 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,400 and to adjust our sights for the future. 37 00:03:45,866 --> 00:03:47,150 Watch your feet, watch your feet, 38 00:03:47,233 --> 00:03:50,233 watch the cable. 39 00:04:02,366 --> 00:04:03,783 Thank you, both. 40 00:04:03,866 --> 00:04:06,750 Thank you. -Now, you go on up, go on up. 41 00:04:06,833 --> 00:04:08,117 And, uh... 42 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:09,617 Yeah. That's okay. Yeah. This is good. 43 00:04:09,700 --> 00:04:10,650 This is good. 44 00:04:10,733 --> 00:04:13,250 Today in California 45 00:04:13,333 --> 00:04:16,333 we are installing six million feet... 46 00:04:18,433 --> 00:04:21,433 Six million feet of computer cables and plugs. 47 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,350 We are putting the future 48 00:04:25,433 --> 00:04:28,283 at the fingertips of your children. 49 00:04:28,366 --> 00:04:30,483 All of you know that the information 50 00:04:30,566 --> 00:04:32,283 and technology explosion 51 00:04:32,366 --> 00:04:33,650 will offer to you 52 00:04:33,733 --> 00:04:36,383 and to the young people of the future, 53 00:04:36,466 --> 00:04:38,283 more opportunities and challenges 54 00:04:38,366 --> 00:04:41,366 than any generations of Americans has ever seen. 55 00:04:45,766 --> 00:04:47,150 Good morning, Mr. President. 56 00:04:47,233 --> 00:04:49,583 Come down, you can see it on the camera there. 57 00:04:49,666 --> 00:04:51,417 Good morning, Mr. Vice President. 58 00:04:51,500 --> 00:04:53,083 Morning, Ron. -Hey, Mr. Secretary. 59 00:04:53,166 --> 00:04:54,483 Oh, hold on. 60 00:04:54,566 --> 00:04:57,566 So now you can say it. -Good morning, Ron. 61 00:04:57,866 --> 00:05:00,866 How's it going there, Ron? 62 00:05:01,466 --> 00:05:03,783 We gotta wait for them to send back audio. 63 00:05:03,866 --> 00:05:06,866 Takes a few seconds here. Come on. 64 00:05:07,733 --> 00:05:10,717 It's great here. We're at Freeport Elementary School. 65 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,517 We got a fully wired school 66 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,583 hooked into the information superhighway 67 00:05:14,666 --> 00:05:16,483 just like you, Mr. President, 68 00:05:16,566 --> 00:05:18,517 the vice president promised to be. 69 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,283 You know, the vice president and I... 70 00:05:21,366 --> 00:05:24,366 have communications like this, uh, 71 00:05:24,500 --> 00:05:26,517 at the Pentagon with all of our military leaders 72 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:27,650 around the world. 73 00:05:27,733 --> 00:05:29,450 I'm really glad to see that you've got 74 00:05:29,533 --> 00:05:32,017 this kind of communication for education. 75 00:05:32,100 --> 00:05:34,817 If more people can communicate directly like this 76 00:05:34,900 --> 00:05:37,283 and look at each other face to face, 77 00:05:37,366 --> 00:05:40,017 that will, I think, reduce the need 78 00:05:40,100 --> 00:05:43,100 for military confrontation. I think it'll bring 79 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:44,517 people together all over the world. 80 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,600 And it's really exciting to see us here looking at you 81 00:05:48,633 --> 00:05:50,550 and have this conversation. 82 00:05:50,633 --> 00:05:53,050 I hope you all are as excited about it as we are. 83 00:05:53,133 --> 00:05:55,517 Everybody's excited here, Mr. President. 84 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:56,717 Why don't we give a big cheer 85 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,800 and let's show him how excited we are, all right? 86 00:06:29,100 --> 00:06:31,249 I like this, does it... 87 00:06:31,332 --> 00:06:33,117 Top of the range. -Does it? Let's see. 88 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:34,217 Car cord. 89 00:06:34,300 --> 00:06:35,450 I can take it in the car! 90 00:06:35,533 --> 00:06:37,249 Three-inch screen. 91 00:06:37,332 --> 00:06:38,583 I like this one, hun. 92 00:06:38,666 --> 00:06:40,550 It can do batteries too. 93 00:06:40,633 --> 00:06:42,017 You mean you can take a movie 94 00:06:42,100 --> 00:06:43,383 and they'll put it on the hard drive 95 00:06:43,466 --> 00:06:44,717 and you can show it back. 96 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:45,850 Mm-hmm. Yeah. 97 00:06:45,933 --> 00:06:47,217 -Oh, c'mon. -EMPLOYEE Yeah, yeah. 98 00:06:47,300 --> 00:06:50,300 There it is right here. 99 00:06:51,733 --> 00:06:53,150 You guys, Bill, cut it all out. 100 00:06:53,233 --> 00:06:56,233 You cut it. 101 00:07:01,133 --> 00:07:03,317 We humans are tool builders 102 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,400 and we can fashion tools that amplify 103 00:07:06,700 --> 00:07:08,683 these inherent abilities that we have 104 00:07:08,766 --> 00:07:11,766 to spectacular magnitudes. And so for me, 105 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,600 a computer has always been a bicycle of the mind. 106 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:17,783 Something that takes us far beyond 107 00:07:17,866 --> 00:07:20,866 our inherent abilities. 108 00:07:27,566 --> 00:07:30,566 Microsoft will be the most powerful company 109 00:07:31,832 --> 00:07:34,317 in the 21st century. Do you see that? 110 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,083 No, I really don't. 111 00:07:36,166 --> 00:07:39,050 Uh, we're a company that makes tools. 112 00:07:39,133 --> 00:07:42,133 But so many people are dependent on those tools. 113 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:44,950 No, they're not dependent on us. 114 00:07:45,033 --> 00:07:46,517 Once they have those things... 115 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,083 ...they can use them 116 00:07:48,166 --> 00:07:51,166 and do whatever they choose. 117 00:07:54,933 --> 00:07:56,617 I think a millennia from now 118 00:07:56,700 --> 00:07:57,850 people are gonna look back and say, 119 00:07:57,933 --> 00:07:59,050 "Wow, the late 20th century 120 00:07:59,133 --> 00:08:02,133 was really a great time to be alive on this planet." 121 00:08:06,366 --> 00:08:07,917 Now that I've gone on the internet, 122 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,000 I'd rather be on my computer than doing just about anything. 123 00:08:13,100 --> 00:08:14,717 Any human being can say 124 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,883 whatever he or she wants 125 00:08:16,966 --> 00:08:18,749 and nobody can shut them up. 126 00:08:18,832 --> 00:08:20,417 It means that all of those 127 00:08:20,500 --> 00:08:22,717 wonderful things that have been gelling 128 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,517 in human consciousness all this time, 129 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,783 that were too far out on the fringes, 130 00:08:26,866 --> 00:08:29,617 suddenly get a chance to be part of the mix. 131 00:08:29,700 --> 00:08:32,700 And I think that's a good thing. 132 00:08:38,533 --> 00:08:40,817 I think it's no accident 133 00:08:40,900 --> 00:08:43,350 that the tremendous speed 134 00:08:43,433 --> 00:08:45,683 that we're seeing and development 135 00:08:45,766 --> 00:08:48,383 of this new cyber culture 136 00:08:48,466 --> 00:08:50,183 which is evolving right in front of our eyes, 137 00:08:50,266 --> 00:08:51,817 right around this millennium time. 138 00:08:51,900 --> 00:08:53,817 Why is that? 139 00:08:53,900 --> 00:08:55,582 It's not happening by accident. 140 00:08:55,665 --> 00:08:57,817 It's the actual millennium itself 141 00:08:57,900 --> 00:09:00,900 making this happen. It's like an energy. 142 00:09:01,533 --> 00:09:02,550 It's like a magnet 143 00:09:02,633 --> 00:09:05,383 that the closer you get to it the more it speeds up. 144 00:09:05,466 --> 00:09:06,983 It's almost like a black hole. 145 00:09:07,066 --> 00:09:10,066 So as you hit it right on the year 2000, 146 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,200 the culture is moving at almost maximum speed. 147 00:09:13,766 --> 00:09:16,766 I want to get online. I need a computer! 148 00:09:23,633 --> 00:09:26,217 As ironies go, add this to the list. 149 00:09:26,300 --> 00:09:28,883 Computers that can handle millions of numbers a minute 150 00:09:28,966 --> 00:09:31,966 may spend years stymied by a single one, 151 00:09:32,733 --> 00:09:35,283 the date of the year 2000. 152 00:09:35,366 --> 00:09:37,783 It's a problem called the Millennium Bug 153 00:09:37,866 --> 00:09:39,950 and it will be biting soon. 154 00:09:40,033 --> 00:09:41,550 We can't see the electronic calendar 155 00:09:41,633 --> 00:09:43,350 inside a computer, but if we could, 156 00:09:43,433 --> 00:09:45,150 it would look something like this. 157 00:09:45,233 --> 00:09:47,617 The first two digits of the year, the 19, 158 00:09:47,700 --> 00:09:49,317 are assumed by the computer, 159 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,350 chiseled in stone as far as its memory is concerned. 160 00:09:52,433 --> 00:09:55,433 To save precious storage space, only the last two digits change. 161 00:09:56,733 --> 00:09:59,733 So when the year 1999 ends, virtually all computer calendars 162 00:10:00,633 --> 00:10:02,583 are going to flip over to the next year, 163 00:10:02,666 --> 00:10:05,666 which the computers will read as 1900. 164 00:10:07,466 --> 00:10:10,466 Our systems are broken. 165 00:10:12,466 --> 00:10:14,483 And they're going to fall asunder 166 00:10:14,566 --> 00:10:16,650 when you start entering into them, 167 00:10:16,733 --> 00:10:19,733 data from the 21st century. 168 00:10:20,100 --> 00:10:23,050 There is no debate about that anymore. 169 00:10:23,133 --> 00:10:24,683 Peter de Jager calls himself 170 00:10:24,766 --> 00:10:26,550 a computer age Paul Revere, 171 00:10:26,633 --> 00:10:28,850 trotting all over the globe to warn companies 172 00:10:28,933 --> 00:10:31,183 and governments that "the zeros are coming, 173 00:10:31,266 --> 00:10:32,450 the zeros are coming." 174 00:10:32,533 --> 00:10:33,917 We won't be in a situation, 175 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,000 will we or will we, where cities virtually grind 176 00:10:37,366 --> 00:10:39,683 to a halt on that January 1? 177 00:10:39,766 --> 00:10:42,766 If we don't fix the programs, that's what happens. 178 00:10:43,333 --> 00:10:45,417 Now you're asking me to predict the future. 179 00:10:45,500 --> 00:10:48,500 If everybody listens to us, we'll bypass this. 180 00:10:48,833 --> 00:10:50,417 If everybody starts working on it, 181 00:10:50,500 --> 00:10:53,250 focuses all their energies, we will bypass it. 182 00:10:53,333 --> 00:10:55,217 What you have just communicated to me 183 00:10:55,300 --> 00:10:57,082 is that half this room has no better 184 00:10:57,165 --> 00:10:58,317 than a 50 percent chance 185 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,383 of delivering this project on time. 186 00:11:00,466 --> 00:11:03,466 Do you understand that? Do you realize that? 187 00:11:10,033 --> 00:11:13,033 In 1977, I started as an operator with IBM. 188 00:11:13,233 --> 00:11:15,283 First day on the job, I noticed that our systems 189 00:11:15,366 --> 00:11:16,483 were using two-digit years. 190 00:11:16,566 --> 00:11:17,783 When I brought it up to management, 191 00:11:17,866 --> 00:11:19,383 management said, "Don't worry about it, 192 00:11:19,466 --> 00:11:22,466 it isn't gonna happen for another 23 years, so relax." 193 00:11:24,066 --> 00:11:27,066 I did. 194 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,050 In 1989, 195 00:11:30,133 --> 00:11:33,133 I saw a show, Connections with James Burke. 196 00:11:33,566 --> 00:11:36,350 And the first show was about how in 1965 197 00:11:36,433 --> 00:11:38,483 the entire Skyline went black 198 00:11:38,566 --> 00:11:41,566 because of one single electrical switch. 199 00:11:45,233 --> 00:11:48,233 It can't happen here, well it did. 200 00:11:48,500 --> 00:11:51,383 And the question asked by 25 million people 201 00:11:51,466 --> 00:11:54,450 living in the affected area of 80,000 square miles 202 00:11:54,533 --> 00:11:57,533 was simply, how could it happen? 203 00:11:59,366 --> 00:12:02,366 And no one had an immediate answer. 204 00:12:05,066 --> 00:12:07,950 It was that single device failing, 205 00:12:08,033 --> 00:12:11,033 causing this huge effect. 206 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,383 That made me realize that the year 2000 problem, 207 00:12:15,466 --> 00:12:16,550 these date calculations 208 00:12:16,633 --> 00:12:18,717 in every one of these organizations, 209 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,800 would have a similar impact. 210 00:12:32,566 --> 00:12:34,750 So if we all know there's gonna be this giant problem 211 00:12:34,833 --> 00:12:36,150 and exactly when it's going to happen, 212 00:12:36,233 --> 00:12:37,617 why on earth can't we fix it? 213 00:12:37,700 --> 00:12:40,700 -Here's ABC's Gina Smith. -Just how big is the problem? 214 00:12:40,900 --> 00:12:43,650 Well, imagine someone told you you had to find and replace 215 00:12:43,733 --> 00:12:45,517 every bolt in the Brooklyn Bridge. 216 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,450 That's daunting, but doable. 217 00:12:47,533 --> 00:12:49,017 Now imagine you have to find... 218 00:12:49,100 --> 00:12:51,883 ...and replace every bolt in every bridge in the world, 219 00:12:51,966 --> 00:12:54,966 and you only have 21 months to do it. 220 00:13:00,866 --> 00:13:02,583 Computers talk to one another, 221 00:13:02,666 --> 00:13:05,666 information is transferred from one system to another. 222 00:13:12,700 --> 00:13:15,017 And if one computer doesn't understand 223 00:13:15,100 --> 00:13:16,383 the change of date, 224 00:13:16,466 --> 00:13:19,466 then other computers are affected by that. 225 00:13:24,733 --> 00:13:27,717 What Y2K is about really is the pervasiveness 226 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:28,917 of computer technology, 227 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,783 information processing technology, 228 00:13:30,866 --> 00:13:33,017 in our everyday lives. 229 00:13:33,100 --> 00:13:35,483 And personal computers are really the least of it. 230 00:13:35,566 --> 00:13:38,217 It's the big fragile systems, the brittle systems 231 00:13:38,300 --> 00:13:40,550 that are most vulnerable. 232 00:13:40,633 --> 00:13:43,617 Things like power, electric communications, 233 00:13:43,700 --> 00:13:46,700 air traffic control, banking. 234 00:13:47,300 --> 00:13:48,317 These are the things 235 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,150 that we don't think about because they're invisible. 236 00:13:51,233 --> 00:13:53,517 They're transparent in our daily interactions. 237 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,600 But they are in fact computer systems. 238 00:14:00,333 --> 00:14:01,917 It's not just the computer systems 239 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,050 that are interconnected. 240 00:14:03,133 --> 00:14:04,717 It's the economies of the countries 241 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,117 and the individual businesses that are interconnected. 242 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:08,850 You can have a company like General Motors 243 00:14:08,933 --> 00:14:11,933 that has been working very, very hard on this issue, 244 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,583 but they're dependent upon tiers of suppliers. 245 00:14:14,666 --> 00:14:17,283 And if you can't get the widget that goes into the seat 246 00:14:17,366 --> 00:14:18,917 that goes into the car, 247 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,000 their assembly line is gonna stop. 248 00:14:25,366 --> 00:14:27,183 It's almost like a nightmare. 249 00:14:27,266 --> 00:14:29,350 Uh, literally science fiction. 250 00:14:29,433 --> 00:14:32,150 Computers which control defense missile systems. 251 00:14:32,233 --> 00:14:35,233 Computers which control public transportation systems 252 00:14:35,366 --> 00:14:38,366 are at risk for failure. 253 00:14:40,066 --> 00:14:42,117 But this is much worse than we thought 254 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,950 because billions of computer chips out there 255 00:14:45,033 --> 00:14:47,917 have a time sequence as part of their programs. 256 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,000 Imagine how many things are now run with computer chips 257 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:52,483 and are connected 258 00:14:52,566 --> 00:14:55,566 to so many other things run by computer chips. 259 00:15:15,933 --> 00:15:18,933 It seems unbelievable, but it's only 535 days from now. 260 00:15:20,666 --> 00:15:21,917 At the stroke of midnight, 261 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,317 when we will usher in a new year, 262 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,400 a new century, a new millennium. 263 00:15:28,533 --> 00:15:31,533 It is a complex test that requires us all 264 00:15:31,900 --> 00:15:33,750 to work together. 265 00:15:33,833 --> 00:15:35,950 Every government agency, every university, 266 00:15:36,033 --> 00:15:39,033 every hospital, every business large and small, 267 00:15:40,100 --> 00:15:42,217 with millions of hours needed 268 00:15:42,300 --> 00:15:45,250 to rewrite billions of lines of code 269 00:15:45,333 --> 00:15:48,333 and hundreds of thousands of interdependent organizations. 270 00:15:49,066 --> 00:15:50,317 This is clearly one of the most 271 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,400 complex management challenges in history. 272 00:15:55,500 --> 00:15:58,250 More than anything else, the year 2000 problem 273 00:15:58,333 --> 00:16:01,333 has revealed how interconnected and interdependent 274 00:16:03,033 --> 00:16:04,983 we have become. 275 00:16:05,066 --> 00:16:06,117 Earlier this year, 276 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,050 the president established the President's Council 277 00:16:09,133 --> 00:16:12,133 on the Year 2000 Conversion and appointed John Koskinen 278 00:16:13,300 --> 00:16:16,300 to head up this effort, having been a part of the effort 279 00:16:18,133 --> 00:16:19,683 to persuade him to come back... 280 00:16:19,766 --> 00:16:21,417 ...out of retirement and take this on, 281 00:16:21,500 --> 00:16:22,950 I wanna really lay it on thick 282 00:16:23,033 --> 00:16:24,150 because he's really... 283 00:16:24,233 --> 00:16:26,317 He's done a great job. 284 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,400 Why don't you stand up, John, we appreciate what you're doing. 285 00:16:40,066 --> 00:16:43,066 We are at the White House. We're here with John Koskinen. 286 00:16:43,466 --> 00:16:46,466 This is the apex of our trip. 287 00:16:46,900 --> 00:16:49,900 You've been known in papers and articles as the Y2K czar. 288 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:51,917 How do you react to that? 289 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,417 Well, I'd say, in a way, I suppose, 290 00:16:54,500 --> 00:16:57,350 of focusing on responsibility. But as I said, 291 00:16:57,433 --> 00:16:59,217 it's one of the world's great bag holding jobs. 292 00:16:59,300 --> 00:17:00,650 If it all goes well, nobody will care. 293 00:17:00,733 --> 00:17:01,983 And if it doesn't go well, they'll say 294 00:17:02,066 --> 00:17:03,917 -what was the name of that guy? -Who was that czar? 295 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,983 Has to be a fair amount of pressure, though, you must admit 296 00:17:06,066 --> 00:17:07,150 when the president says, 297 00:17:07,233 --> 00:17:09,183 "Okay, you're my guy to do this." 298 00:17:09,266 --> 00:17:10,317 Not only is it getting 299 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:11,817 the government itself up to speed, 300 00:17:11,900 --> 00:17:14,900 it's the nation... how to inform the people. 301 00:17:16,633 --> 00:17:19,150 We're still a ways away from the end of next year 302 00:17:19,233 --> 00:17:21,650 and we don't know how much work is actually gonna get done. 303 00:17:21,733 --> 00:17:23,650 All you can say for sure right now 304 00:17:23,733 --> 00:17:24,983 is that there's potential 305 00:17:25,066 --> 00:17:27,250 for significant disruptions around the world. 306 00:17:27,333 --> 00:17:29,417 But also there are a lot of people working very hard 307 00:17:29,500 --> 00:17:30,817 to avoid that problem. 308 00:17:30,900 --> 00:17:33,717 Uh, so at this stage, all you can do is make guesses 309 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,800 or very broad-based estimates about what might happen. 310 00:17:37,233 --> 00:17:38,650 Uh, but I think at this point, 311 00:17:38,733 --> 00:17:41,733 it's very difficult to know for sure. 312 00:17:47,633 --> 00:17:49,817 Four million gallons of raw sewage 313 00:17:49,900 --> 00:17:52,550 spilled out during a failed Y2K test. 314 00:17:52,633 --> 00:17:54,483 They were testing what would happen 315 00:17:54,566 --> 00:17:55,883 if the plant lost power 316 00:17:55,966 --> 00:17:58,966 once the calendar reads January 1st, 2000. 317 00:17:59,266 --> 00:18:02,266 Computer unexpectedly shut our input gate 318 00:18:02,566 --> 00:18:04,617 and didn't tell us that it did that, 319 00:18:04,700 --> 00:18:05,950 shut one of our input gates, 320 00:18:06,033 --> 00:18:09,033 and it backed up the sewer into the park. 321 00:18:15,466 --> 00:18:17,417 Regulatory reports reveal 322 00:18:17,500 --> 00:18:18,650 that early last month 323 00:18:18,733 --> 00:18:20,583 the Peach Bottom nuclear facility 324 00:18:20,666 --> 00:18:23,666 near York, Pennsylvania experienced a serious glitch 325 00:18:24,133 --> 00:18:25,883 when operators tried to fix 326 00:18:25,966 --> 00:18:27,450 a Y2K problem. 327 00:18:27,533 --> 00:18:30,250 When workers advanced clocks to the year 2000, 328 00:18:30,333 --> 00:18:32,050 both the primary and backup 329 00:18:32,133 --> 00:18:34,417 plant monitoring system computers shut down 330 00:18:34,500 --> 00:18:37,250 for seven hours, resulting in a major loss 331 00:18:37,333 --> 00:18:39,217 of emergency assessment capability, 332 00:18:39,300 --> 00:18:42,300 according to the Nuclear Regulatory Commission. 333 00:18:44,133 --> 00:18:45,950 I keep on hearing a lot of things 334 00:18:46,033 --> 00:18:49,033 that there's gonna be mass chaos and confusion in the year 2000. 335 00:18:50,633 --> 00:18:52,850 Right now I'm just studying all the facts 336 00:18:52,933 --> 00:18:55,850 and just see what companies are really prepared for. 337 00:18:55,933 --> 00:18:58,933 I just assumed in America, we'll figure it out. 338 00:18:59,366 --> 00:19:02,366 I can't believe that in this present day and age 339 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,383 with all the modern technology 340 00:19:05,466 --> 00:19:07,683 that everything's gonna collapse. 341 00:19:07,766 --> 00:19:10,766 A lot of people are gonna panic and stockpile things, not fly. 342 00:19:12,566 --> 00:19:14,150 I think it's all a hoax anyway. 343 00:19:14,233 --> 00:19:15,683 You think it's a hoax? 344 00:19:15,766 --> 00:19:18,766 I do. I think it was started by computer programmers. 345 00:19:19,033 --> 00:19:22,033 They must be working on it, are they? 346 00:19:23,466 --> 00:19:25,750 This is the real frontline, 347 00:19:25,833 --> 00:19:28,833 programmers scouring computer codes. 348 00:19:30,066 --> 00:19:33,066 And to understand exactly what they're doing, 349 00:19:33,233 --> 00:19:34,417 you have to be one. 350 00:19:34,500 --> 00:19:36,183 It'd be a D3M because there's hyphens. 351 00:19:36,266 --> 00:19:37,383 I've got to tell you 352 00:19:37,466 --> 00:19:38,550 I don't understand a word you said. 353 00:19:38,633 --> 00:19:40,283 But what you pick up immediately 354 00:19:40,366 --> 00:19:42,050 is that the process of fixing 355 00:19:42,133 --> 00:19:45,133 a single computer program is tedious and time consuming. 356 00:19:46,366 --> 00:19:47,783 Every one is unique 357 00:19:47,866 --> 00:19:50,583 and you have to go through them line by line 358 00:19:50,666 --> 00:19:53,666 to find and fix and test potential problems. 359 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,817 Well actually, I was gonna try to get into something 360 00:20:16,900 --> 00:20:17,917 where you can actually 361 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,000 see me doing something useful here. 362 00:20:22,466 --> 00:20:25,466 Let's see... 363 00:20:26,733 --> 00:20:29,733 This is a fairly straightforward case. 364 00:20:30,100 --> 00:20:33,100 Uh, it's a field in a program just called YR for year. 365 00:20:35,166 --> 00:20:37,050 And the 99 means 366 00:20:37,133 --> 00:20:40,133 it's two numeric possible values. 367 00:20:41,700 --> 00:20:44,083 So these are the kinds of things that the various tools 368 00:20:44,166 --> 00:20:46,217 that we're using help us find. 369 00:20:46,300 --> 00:20:48,283 Just about everything we do 370 00:20:48,366 --> 00:20:51,366 depends on knowing the date something happened, 371 00:20:52,066 --> 00:20:53,950 the date someone was born, 372 00:20:54,033 --> 00:20:57,033 the date they got married, the date they died, 373 00:20:57,533 --> 00:20:59,650 the date they became disabled, 374 00:20:59,733 --> 00:21:02,217 we have to worry about all those things. 375 00:21:02,300 --> 00:21:05,300 There it is. 376 00:21:09,066 --> 00:21:11,350 The whole business of the Millennium Bug 377 00:21:11,433 --> 00:21:12,617 is a bit odd, isn't it? 378 00:21:12,700 --> 00:21:15,650 We can put a tiny little machine on Mars to roam around 379 00:21:15,733 --> 00:21:18,733 and we've got a problem with a couple of digits. 380 00:21:18,966 --> 00:21:20,417 Doesn't make much sense, does it? 381 00:21:20,500 --> 00:21:22,817 I mean, who were the programming geniuses 382 00:21:22,900 --> 00:21:25,683 who decided that we only needed two digits 383 00:21:25,766 --> 00:21:26,917 instead of four. 384 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,383 Programmers have been telling management 385 00:21:28,466 --> 00:21:29,483 right from the start, 386 00:21:29,566 --> 00:21:31,583 this will not work in the year 2000. 387 00:21:31,666 --> 00:21:33,350 And management said that is outside 388 00:21:33,433 --> 00:21:36,283 my six-year timeframe 389 00:21:36,366 --> 00:21:38,117 for financial analysis and, you know, 390 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:39,750 reports to shareholders, 391 00:21:39,833 --> 00:21:42,833 so we're not going to worry about it. 392 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,600 The kind of computer power you can now get on a laptop 393 00:21:47,133 --> 00:21:50,133 used to require a system that was so large it literally 394 00:21:50,500 --> 00:21:52,817 had to be housed in its own building. 395 00:21:52,900 --> 00:21:55,883 So, the sheer expense of computing 396 00:21:55,966 --> 00:21:58,966 began to really add up. 397 00:22:11,666 --> 00:22:14,183 That's when major businesses and government institutions 398 00:22:14,266 --> 00:22:16,117 began finding ways to cut corners. 399 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,450 And one of the most fateful cost-cutting measures 400 00:22:18,533 --> 00:22:19,950 was to deliberately 401 00:22:20,033 --> 00:22:23,033 leave out the first two digits of the year date. 402 00:22:34,833 --> 00:22:36,950 Using two digits rather than four 403 00:22:37,033 --> 00:22:38,850 made good economic sense. 404 00:22:38,933 --> 00:22:41,517 It was a choice, worldwide. 405 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,600 Sort of like the original sin. 406 00:22:49,133 --> 00:22:50,750 If we dig still deeper, 407 00:22:50,833 --> 00:22:52,950 beyond the technical explanations, 408 00:22:53,033 --> 00:22:56,033 we could probably start with a name, Grace Hopper, 409 00:22:56,266 --> 00:22:59,266 coiner of the term "bug." 410 00:23:03,633 --> 00:23:04,917 I was very fortunate 411 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,883 the Navy ordered me to the first big computer 412 00:23:06,966 --> 00:23:08,783 in the United States, Mark One at Harvard. 413 00:23:08,866 --> 00:23:10,950 How did you know so much about computers then? 414 00:23:11,033 --> 00:23:12,483 -I didn't. -How did you... 415 00:23:12,566 --> 00:23:15,566 -It was the first one. -Yeah. 416 00:23:22,500 --> 00:23:25,500 We were building Mark Two the summer of 1945. 417 00:23:25,733 --> 00:23:28,733 It was a hot summer in Cambridge and Mark Two stopped. 418 00:23:29,566 --> 00:23:31,283 We finally located the failing relay. 419 00:23:31,366 --> 00:23:33,483 It was one of the big signal relays. 420 00:23:33,566 --> 00:23:35,250 And inside the relay, 421 00:23:35,333 --> 00:23:37,117 beaten to death by the relay contacts 422 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,683 was a moth about this big. 423 00:23:39,766 --> 00:23:41,550 So the operator got a pair of tweezers 424 00:23:41,633 --> 00:23:44,283 and very carefully fished the moth out of the relay. 425 00:23:44,366 --> 00:23:45,650 Put it in the logbook, 426 00:23:45,733 --> 00:23:47,483 put scotch tape over it. 427 00:23:47,566 --> 00:23:50,566 And below it he wrote, "First actual bug found." 428 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,083 You wrote something somewhere. 429 00:23:54,166 --> 00:23:55,383 You don't do anything in the Navy 430 00:23:55,466 --> 00:23:56,683 without a piece of paper. 431 00:23:56,766 --> 00:23:59,083 Mm-hmm. -They all come out of computers. 432 00:23:59,166 --> 00:24:00,750 Same thing's true with your big companies. 433 00:24:00,833 --> 00:24:03,050 If those computers stopped, this whole country 434 00:24:03,133 --> 00:24:04,650 would come to a screeching halt. 435 00:24:04,733 --> 00:24:05,950 Mm-hmm. 436 00:24:06,033 --> 00:24:08,917 People are scared of computers, just as I can remember. 437 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,517 There were people who were scared to death 438 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,650 of telephones. 439 00:24:12,733 --> 00:24:15,733 Wouldn't go near them. 440 00:24:16,666 --> 00:24:19,517 There were people who thought gas light was safe, 441 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,117 but electric light wasn't very safe. 442 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,200 We've always gone through this with every change. 443 00:24:37,166 --> 00:24:40,166 Fulfilling absolute decree in casual simplicity. 444 00:24:50,333 --> 00:24:52,983 All of this is designed to free men and women 445 00:24:53,066 --> 00:24:56,066 from the drudgery and monotony of pushing paper. 446 00:24:59,733 --> 00:25:02,350 Certainly not a 1984-ish vision at all. 447 00:25:02,433 --> 00:25:04,250 Uh, it's just gonna be very gradual 448 00:25:04,333 --> 00:25:06,117 and very human and will seduce you 449 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,200 into learning how to use it. 450 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,117 In just two decades, the speed of computers 451 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,200 has improved over 100 times. 452 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,983 At the core of our society, 453 00:25:20,066 --> 00:25:23,066 a world of accelerating change, irreversible change. 454 00:25:28,466 --> 00:25:30,750 For just as the Industrial Revolution 455 00:25:30,833 --> 00:25:33,417 replaced man's muscles as an economic asset, 456 00:25:33,500 --> 00:25:34,883 so the computer threatens 457 00:25:34,966 --> 00:25:37,966 to make valueless the menial mentality. 458 00:25:41,700 --> 00:25:43,017 By the year 2000, 459 00:25:43,100 --> 00:25:44,950 computers will invade our privacy, 460 00:25:45,033 --> 00:25:48,033 on a scale hardly imaginable. They will be interconnected 461 00:25:48,733 --> 00:25:50,983 and unless prevented by new legislation, 462 00:25:51,066 --> 00:25:54,066 will be able to sell information. 463 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,083 Everybody knows what's happening in every part of the world 464 00:25:58,166 --> 00:25:59,450 within seconds. 465 00:25:59,533 --> 00:26:02,533 And it's affecting every part of our lives. 466 00:26:03,433 --> 00:26:04,817 It's something... We can't get away from it. 467 00:26:04,900 --> 00:26:06,517 I think we will have to just... 468 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,017 I don't know, I don't know what's gonna happen. 469 00:26:09,100 --> 00:26:12,100 It is, ironically, that we're too well-informed, 470 00:26:13,100 --> 00:26:14,983 we know too much. 471 00:26:15,066 --> 00:26:16,817 We've lost forever, 472 00:26:16,900 --> 00:26:19,900 the opportunity to live in innocence 473 00:26:20,033 --> 00:26:23,033 about how our society works, or doesn't work. 474 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,950 Is it gonna bring us closer together 475 00:26:28,033 --> 00:26:29,750 or will it drive us further apart? 476 00:26:29,833 --> 00:26:32,550 It's gonna do both, ironically. 477 00:26:32,633 --> 00:26:34,617 It can bring the world closer together, 478 00:26:34,700 --> 00:26:37,700 but you can also use it to avoid human contact. 479 00:26:40,266 --> 00:26:42,317 We have become very, very dependent 480 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,317 on computer technology. 481 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,683 We are going to be stress tested 482 00:26:46,766 --> 00:26:49,766 by the year 2000 problem. 483 00:27:32,066 --> 00:27:35,066 How could the omission of two simple digits 484 00:27:35,333 --> 00:27:38,333 affect the destiny of all humankind? 485 00:27:38,833 --> 00:27:41,833 Y2K? What does it mean? 486 00:27:42,333 --> 00:27:45,333 How will it affect you, your family, your community, 487 00:27:46,500 --> 00:27:48,017 your nation, 488 00:27:48,100 --> 00:27:51,100 our world? 489 00:27:51,933 --> 00:27:54,933 In a very real way, we're all responsible for Y2K. 490 00:27:56,366 --> 00:27:59,017 And there's no one to blame, morally or otherwise. 491 00:27:59,100 --> 00:28:01,750 We've all benefited from the technologies 492 00:28:01,833 --> 00:28:03,450 which have improved our lives. 493 00:28:03,533 --> 00:28:05,050 And we have therefore encouraged 494 00:28:05,133 --> 00:28:07,283 those same technologies to develop 495 00:28:07,366 --> 00:28:09,983 at ever more accelerated rates. 496 00:28:10,066 --> 00:28:13,066 And yes, perhaps we are now realizing 497 00:28:13,333 --> 00:28:15,550 that we've taken them a bit for granted 498 00:28:15,633 --> 00:28:17,217 and have indeed become too dependent 499 00:28:17,300 --> 00:28:20,300 upon the by-products of our collective innovations. 500 00:28:24,266 --> 00:28:27,017 How fragile do we now find ourselves 501 00:28:27,100 --> 00:28:30,100 before the juggernaut of our own inventions. 502 00:28:33,033 --> 00:28:36,033 However, our individual and collective response to Y2K 503 00:28:37,700 --> 00:28:40,700 is actually far more important than Y2K itself. 504 00:28:57,700 --> 00:29:00,700 We know that Y2K is not about computers alone. 505 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,683 Y2K is about connection. 506 00:29:04,766 --> 00:29:05,750 And it's a metaphor 507 00:29:05,833 --> 00:29:08,833 for us being connected with each other. 508 00:29:09,133 --> 00:29:10,550 This group started with a group of people 509 00:29:10,633 --> 00:29:11,650 who got together and said, 510 00:29:11,733 --> 00:29:14,683 "Well, what can we do to promote community preparedness 511 00:29:14,766 --> 00:29:17,183 for Y2K and beyond?" 512 00:29:17,266 --> 00:29:19,883 "What do we do to create the kind of community 513 00:29:19,966 --> 00:29:21,950 that America is known for?" 514 00:29:22,033 --> 00:29:25,033 Those small communities where you walk down the street, 515 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,000 you say, "Hi, how are you, Stalone?" 516 00:29:29,166 --> 00:29:30,317 "How you doing Bill?" 517 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,350 "How you doing, Suzie? Good to see you again, Jim." 518 00:29:33,433 --> 00:29:36,433 We all know that we've got a community like that. 519 00:29:37,300 --> 00:29:39,483 Mother Teresa once said that America 520 00:29:39,566 --> 00:29:41,650 was the loneliest country in the world 521 00:29:41,733 --> 00:29:44,733 and it's because we don't have community anymore. 522 00:29:44,933 --> 00:29:46,917 And if... 523 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,550 if this is what comes out of this 524 00:29:48,633 --> 00:29:50,583 and there isn't a problem, 525 00:29:50,666 --> 00:29:53,650 but we've learned how to work together. 526 00:29:53,733 --> 00:29:54,917 I don't think that's... 527 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,000 You know, I don't think that's a waste, um, 528 00:29:58,466 --> 00:30:01,466 'cause I know a lot of us feel that the way we've been living 529 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,550 isn't totally satisfying. 530 00:30:03,633 --> 00:30:06,633 So, I think personally, Y2K is more of a catalyst 531 00:30:07,066 --> 00:30:08,050 of a lot of things 532 00:30:08,133 --> 00:30:11,133 that's been going on for a long time. 533 00:30:14,933 --> 00:30:16,783 If I have my supply of food, 534 00:30:16,866 --> 00:30:19,850 but the people next to me don't have food, 535 00:30:19,933 --> 00:30:21,650 it's not gonna serve me well. 536 00:30:21,733 --> 00:30:24,117 So everybody has to be provided for. 537 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,983 So that's why I think it's a collective problem, 538 00:30:26,066 --> 00:30:27,017 it's a social problem. 539 00:30:27,100 --> 00:30:28,750 It's no longer a technological problem. 540 00:30:28,833 --> 00:30:31,833 It's a social problem. 541 00:30:41,133 --> 00:30:42,617 What do you guys think about all the myths 542 00:30:42,700 --> 00:30:44,417 going around about the Y2K 543 00:30:44,500 --> 00:30:46,883 as far as, like, computers shutting down? 544 00:30:46,966 --> 00:30:49,550 My perspective of it is that if man made it, 545 00:30:49,633 --> 00:30:52,283 it can fall apart. I mean, you know what I mean? 546 00:30:52,366 --> 00:30:55,083 So I think that if we do our responsibility 547 00:30:55,166 --> 00:30:56,917 of making sure that our things are safe, 548 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,250 making sure that our families' things are safe 549 00:30:58,333 --> 00:31:00,217 and making sure that things in our neighborhood are compliant. 550 00:31:00,300 --> 00:31:02,917 Then if everyone did that, then we will be able to operate 551 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,083 and function even if something did go wrong. 552 00:31:05,166 --> 00:31:08,083 I think it's everybody's responsibility 553 00:31:08,166 --> 00:31:09,683 to look out for everybody. 554 00:31:09,766 --> 00:31:11,683 The whole process with, you know, 555 00:31:11,766 --> 00:31:14,150 "It's Y2K, I'm gonna make sure that, 556 00:31:14,233 --> 00:31:16,483 you know, my neighborhood has a power generator, 557 00:31:16,566 --> 00:31:19,250 but, you know, that neighborhood over there. 558 00:31:19,333 --> 00:31:20,717 I don't know, that's not me. 559 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,617 I don't have to worry about it, it's not my problem." 560 00:31:22,700 --> 00:31:24,850 You know? I think, you know, it's everybody's problem. 561 00:31:24,933 --> 00:31:26,583 If it's a problem at all. 562 00:31:26,666 --> 00:31:28,917 I think that our governments are paranoid 563 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,983 probably just as much as any other person 564 00:31:31,066 --> 00:31:32,350 -on the street is... -Mm-hmm. 565 00:31:32,433 --> 00:31:34,150 ...because nobody knows what's gonna happen. 566 00:31:34,233 --> 00:31:35,750 Nobody knows 567 00:31:35,833 --> 00:31:37,950 what the outcome of that is gonna be. 568 00:31:38,033 --> 00:31:40,583 I hope, really, I pray 569 00:31:40,666 --> 00:31:42,917 that people don't panic, you know? 570 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,350 'Cause I think... I think panic 571 00:31:44,433 --> 00:31:47,433 is gonna be the worst problem of the Y2K. 572 00:32:15,866 --> 00:32:18,550 Scott Olmstead led us more than 100 miles 573 00:32:18,633 --> 00:32:21,633 into the desert. 574 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,583 His hideaway is a secret retreat 575 00:32:36,666 --> 00:32:39,183 known only to his family. 576 00:32:39,266 --> 00:32:40,783 But Scott Olmsted is not a member 577 00:32:40,866 --> 00:32:42,817 of some fringe survivalist group. 578 00:32:42,900 --> 00:32:45,283 He's a well-paid computer programmer 579 00:32:45,366 --> 00:32:48,366 who says he's seen the potential for disaster firsthand. 580 00:32:50,433 --> 00:32:53,433 I could see a lot of crime, I could see looting and arson, 581 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,000 burning, the kinds of things that happened in the LA riots. 582 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,183 I could see a lot of desperate people 583 00:33:01,266 --> 00:33:02,883 who don't have food, 584 00:33:02,966 --> 00:33:04,317 maybe they don't have water, 585 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:05,950 maybe they don't have electricity. 586 00:33:06,033 --> 00:33:09,033 Um, maybe they've lost all their savings, 587 00:33:09,133 --> 00:33:10,883 because the banks have collapsed 588 00:33:10,966 --> 00:33:13,017 or the stock market has collapsed. 589 00:33:13,100 --> 00:33:16,100 All those things are possibilities. 590 00:33:22,966 --> 00:33:25,683 We are making preparations for ourselves 591 00:33:25,766 --> 00:33:27,983 and for some family members. 592 00:33:28,066 --> 00:33:30,350 There is no way that we can feed 593 00:33:30,433 --> 00:33:33,433 or otherwise help, you know, dozens or hundreds of people. 594 00:33:35,033 --> 00:33:37,717 And it's just best if we not 595 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,817 be put in that position of having to decide 596 00:33:39,900 --> 00:33:41,617 who comes and who stays... 597 00:33:41,700 --> 00:33:44,700 ...and who can't come. 598 00:33:48,866 --> 00:33:51,350 At first I thought he was really exaggerating 599 00:33:51,433 --> 00:33:54,433 and that it couldn't be as bad as he was making it out to be. 600 00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:57,250 And frankly, 601 00:33:57,333 --> 00:33:59,217 I went through all of those stages. 602 00:33:59,300 --> 00:34:02,217 I was angry. I was in denial. 603 00:34:02,300 --> 00:34:03,383 And then I realized 604 00:34:03,466 --> 00:34:06,117 once I started reading all of these things 605 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,250 that were being printed from the internet 606 00:34:08,333 --> 00:34:10,217 and mainstream articles 607 00:34:10,300 --> 00:34:13,300 that there really was a problem and it wasn't going to go away. 608 00:34:33,966 --> 00:34:35,583 Ask these Y2K experts 609 00:34:35,666 --> 00:34:38,183 how much of the problem is real and how much is hype? 610 00:34:38,266 --> 00:34:39,383 Well, I think, um, 611 00:34:39,466 --> 00:34:42,466 most of what you've heard so far is real. 612 00:34:43,833 --> 00:34:45,549 "Worst scenario, radiation problems 613 00:34:45,632 --> 00:34:47,482 make Three Mile Island look like a picnic." 614 00:34:47,565 --> 00:34:50,150 "And likely to happen, some battlefield equipment 615 00:34:50,233 --> 00:34:51,417 is junked rather than fixed." 616 00:34:51,500 --> 00:34:52,917 Yeah, but, I mean, the overall impression... 617 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,083 "High-tech systems get more attacks..." 618 00:34:54,166 --> 00:34:55,116 We didn't say the worst scenario. 619 00:34:55,199 --> 00:34:56,150 The worst scenario 620 00:34:56,233 --> 00:34:58,317 is what the consultants are saying. 621 00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,717 Joining us from Toronto, 622 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,517 computer consultant Peter de Jager. 623 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,417 Paloma O'Reilly is a computer expert. 624 00:35:04,500 --> 00:35:06,917 Some experts say airplanes may fall from the sky, 625 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,417 the world financial system could melt down. 626 00:35:09,500 --> 00:35:10,950 Mm, I might pull out some money 627 00:35:11,033 --> 00:35:12,717 just in case the computers go down. 628 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:13,850 I mean, you know. 629 00:35:13,933 --> 00:35:15,383 A lot of people saying there's gonna be nothing 630 00:35:15,466 --> 00:35:17,083 that's gonna be wrong. There's a lot of people saying 631 00:35:17,166 --> 00:35:18,517 there's gonna be something wrong. 632 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,550 Well, I won't be flying anytime, 633 00:35:20,633 --> 00:35:22,483 beginning of January or February. 634 00:35:22,566 --> 00:35:24,650 So I'll make sure I don't. 635 00:35:24,733 --> 00:35:25,717 I wanna make... -Why? 636 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:26,783 Because I'm afraid. 637 00:35:26,866 --> 00:35:29,617 I just hope that... that... 638 00:35:29,700 --> 00:35:32,700 all the nuclear stockpiles are under control. 639 00:35:33,700 --> 00:35:35,050 According to a TIME/CNN poll, 640 00:35:35,133 --> 00:35:36,783 the level of concern about Y2K, 641 00:35:36,866 --> 00:35:39,583 somewhat/very concerned, 59 percent. 642 00:35:39,666 --> 00:35:41,817 Americans willing to move to a rural area, 643 00:35:41,900 --> 00:35:43,617 like you Scott, 12 percent. 644 00:35:43,700 --> 00:35:45,850 So you're mainstream, for once in your life, Scott. 645 00:35:45,933 --> 00:35:48,933 Hey, I'm not so far out as I thought. 646 00:35:56,466 --> 00:35:59,150 There's so much information clutter on this whole topic. 647 00:35:59,233 --> 00:36:00,383 And it does scare people. 648 00:36:00,466 --> 00:36:02,017 "In the garage, you can't get your car started 649 00:36:02,100 --> 00:36:03,250 because its front panel detects 650 00:36:03,333 --> 00:36:04,383 that the car hasn't been serviced 651 00:36:04,466 --> 00:36:05,550 in almost a century." 652 00:36:05,633 --> 00:36:08,517 I mean, that's pretty specific. Where did that come from? 653 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,600 Well, that came from de Jager actually. 654 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,650 Mr. Jager, good evening, welcome to Crossfire. 655 00:36:15,733 --> 00:36:17,583 Can I ask you a personal question first? 656 00:36:17,666 --> 00:36:19,717 Sure. -I just have to notice this. 657 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:20,817 I mean... 658 00:36:20,900 --> 00:36:22,550 ...is this a doomsday tie 659 00:36:22,633 --> 00:36:23,783 -that you're wearing? -No. It's actually 660 00:36:23,866 --> 00:36:24,817 just a sense of humor. 661 00:36:24,900 --> 00:36:26,417 I mean, if you can't laugh at this, 662 00:36:26,500 --> 00:36:27,917 then we may as well all just slit our wrists. 663 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,917 Well, I mean, you're like a walking billboard 664 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,183 for Doomsday. 665 00:36:31,266 --> 00:36:32,450 Peter, let me ask you this. 666 00:36:32,533 --> 00:36:34,650 I mean, is... Let's be real honest here. Okay? 667 00:36:34,733 --> 00:36:36,183 I mean, I've looked a little bit into you 668 00:36:36,266 --> 00:36:39,266 and you got this book out. I mean, you got a website 669 00:36:39,666 --> 00:36:42,117 where you're selling everything from videotapes 670 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,200 for 75 bucks to watches, to... 671 00:36:45,533 --> 00:36:47,417 Maybe even to ties, I don't know, 672 00:36:47,500 --> 00:36:48,950 to handbooks dealing with this. 673 00:36:49,033 --> 00:36:50,983 I mean, you're a one-man gloom and doom industry. 674 00:36:51,066 --> 00:36:52,317 You don't want this problem to go away 675 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:53,550 'cause you'd be out of a job. 676 00:36:53,633 --> 00:36:56,350 On the contrary, and I rej... I really resent that. 677 00:36:56,433 --> 00:36:58,250 This has to be solved. 678 00:36:58,333 --> 00:36:59,917 What we want is for it to solve. 679 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,650 What we want is for people to take this thing seriously. 680 00:37:02,733 --> 00:37:04,483 What we want is on January 1st 681 00:37:04,566 --> 00:37:06,017 for you to get me back on the show and say, 682 00:37:06,100 --> 00:37:08,317 "Peter nothing happened," and my job will be done 683 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,783 and the jobs of several hundred other people. 684 00:37:10,866 --> 00:37:13,517 The reality is that the IRS, for example, 685 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,417 is spending a billion dollars. 686 00:37:15,500 --> 00:37:16,617 Why are they spending that money? 687 00:37:16,700 --> 00:37:19,700 Because I'm a good speaker. Come on! Give them some credit. 688 00:37:20,433 --> 00:37:22,917 Well, I mean, I've read that you get 7,500 dollars for a speech, 689 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,450 that's more than... -How much do you get? 690 00:37:24,533 --> 00:37:25,817 -Don't give me that. -...Novak and Buchanan. 691 00:37:25,900 --> 00:37:27,150 But look at this. Here's this page, 692 00:37:27,233 --> 00:37:29,683 half a page ad that you yourself 693 00:37:29,766 --> 00:37:31,150 took out promoting... -No, no, no. 694 00:37:31,233 --> 00:37:32,983 ...your own self in The Wall Street Journal. 695 00:37:33,066 --> 00:37:34,450 It's got your website here and everything. 696 00:37:34,533 --> 00:37:35,517 Please. Let's not... 697 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,750 You're selling yourself as Dr. Doom aren't you? 698 00:37:37,833 --> 00:37:39,617 Let's get the facts right. 699 00:37:39,700 --> 00:37:41,483 Let's not do another sarin on air. 700 00:37:41,566 --> 00:37:43,350 This was paid for by... -Touché. 701 00:37:43,433 --> 00:37:45,517 This was paid for by The Wall Street Journal. 702 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,283 This is not an ad I took out. -But... But... 703 00:37:47,366 --> 00:37:48,950 They... And they gave me a byline. 704 00:37:49,033 --> 00:37:50,417 All your information is up here right? 705 00:37:50,500 --> 00:37:52,383 Absolutely! -But aren't you making a living 706 00:37:52,466 --> 00:37:53,850 -by scaring people to death? -Yes! 707 00:37:53,933 --> 00:37:56,150 I'm making a living by telling them the truth. 708 00:37:56,233 --> 00:37:57,550 Now if the truth scares them, 709 00:37:57,633 --> 00:38:00,633 please don't shoot the messenger. -All right. 710 00:38:14,966 --> 00:38:17,517 Is this your outfit for Y2K? 711 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,600 It sure is. I'm Farmer Jane now. 712 00:38:21,933 --> 00:38:24,933 How you doing? 713 00:38:26,566 --> 00:38:29,566 Got any eggs for me today? Let's see. 714 00:38:30,900 --> 00:38:33,900 I felt like when my congressman laughed at my inquiries, 715 00:38:36,300 --> 00:38:37,817 and the mayors 716 00:38:37,900 --> 00:38:40,900 and the local media wouldn't report it seriously, 717 00:38:42,566 --> 00:38:44,617 that it was pretty hopeless. 718 00:38:44,700 --> 00:38:46,683 Because Peter de Jager said 719 00:38:46,766 --> 00:38:49,766 that if you didn't get going in '89, 720 00:38:50,533 --> 00:38:52,950 it was gonna be hopeless. 721 00:38:53,033 --> 00:38:55,250 And so, uh... 722 00:38:55,333 --> 00:38:58,333 I put my business up for sale. 723 00:38:59,833 --> 00:39:02,833 So, it's not going to be easy for us financially 724 00:39:03,833 --> 00:39:06,183 if Year 2K doesn't happen 725 00:39:06,266 --> 00:39:09,266 because we have sold off our assets. 726 00:39:09,466 --> 00:39:12,466 But it's much more important for us to have this cash now 727 00:39:14,033 --> 00:39:17,033 and put it in our Year 2K preparations. 728 00:39:22,866 --> 00:39:24,017 In a year from now, 729 00:39:24,100 --> 00:39:27,100 I anticipate the home will be full of the smell 730 00:39:27,266 --> 00:39:29,783 of fresh bread and the wood stove. 731 00:39:29,866 --> 00:39:32,866 We'll have some sewing to be doing, 732 00:39:33,466 --> 00:39:36,466 um, fresh eggs, the animals to feed, 733 00:39:37,833 --> 00:39:40,833 and it'll be time to just really connect, 734 00:39:41,900 --> 00:39:44,900 brush up on my piano skills. 735 00:39:45,966 --> 00:39:47,583 Do you think of yourself 736 00:39:47,666 --> 00:39:50,666 as a Y2K survivalist or... 737 00:39:53,066 --> 00:39:55,217 -In terms of Y2K? -Well, I'm... 738 00:39:55,300 --> 00:39:58,300 I'm a grandma turned Year 2K-er 739 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,600 and when I couldn't get my local community to listen, 740 00:40:03,966 --> 00:40:06,966 I found that there was thousands of people on the internet 741 00:40:07,100 --> 00:40:09,550 that wanted information about rural living. 742 00:40:09,633 --> 00:40:11,617 And so I set up a website 743 00:40:11,700 --> 00:40:14,700 and we've had thousands that have visited it, 744 00:40:15,233 --> 00:40:17,417 and we're just trying to encourage people here 745 00:40:17,500 --> 00:40:20,500 that rural living can be fun and you can make the adjustment. 746 00:40:30,566 --> 00:40:32,417 You can use it with either hot water, 747 00:40:32,500 --> 00:40:34,583 you can fix it with cold water, 748 00:40:34,666 --> 00:40:36,183 or if you had to, you can even eat it raw. 749 00:40:36,266 --> 00:40:37,517 Now I don't recommend eating it raw. 750 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,517 I mean, it'll... ...it'll swell up. 751 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,150 You can make anything solar, 752 00:40:41,233 --> 00:40:42,850 any flashlights, any radio you have, 753 00:40:42,933 --> 00:40:44,350 you can make it with a solar battery charger. 754 00:40:44,433 --> 00:40:47,433 -You can make anything solar. -I see. 755 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,200 Um... Okay. 756 00:40:52,566 --> 00:40:55,566 -Why don't I go ahead with that. -Okay. 757 00:40:57,766 --> 00:40:59,483 There's a lot more books being written, 758 00:40:59,566 --> 00:41:01,083 a lot more on the internet. 759 00:41:01,166 --> 00:41:04,166 And I think that there is a potential problem 760 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,400 that might occur, and no one knows, 761 00:41:08,500 --> 00:41:10,917 but I'd rather be prepared for my family 762 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,883 and if there isn't a problem then we're set. 763 00:41:13,966 --> 00:41:15,517 You know, and that's just less shopping 764 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,600 I'll have to do next year. 765 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,350 In the past, these shows drew survivalists 766 00:41:26,433 --> 00:41:29,050 who were here for political or religious views 767 00:41:29,133 --> 00:41:30,317 about their survival. 768 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:31,783 Now you're seeing a whole new group 769 00:41:31,866 --> 00:41:34,866 of people come out. 770 00:41:42,066 --> 00:41:45,066 All that Crisco makes my chicken taste oh, so good. 771 00:41:45,300 --> 00:41:47,983 Here, would anybody like a great big old lick? 772 00:41:48,066 --> 00:41:51,066 Nobody would. 773 00:42:10,233 --> 00:42:12,017 It's not so much the computers failing, 774 00:42:12,100 --> 00:42:14,150 it's that I'm worried about what the people are gonna panic 775 00:42:14,233 --> 00:42:15,883 before the year. 776 00:42:15,966 --> 00:42:18,966 I think we're going to be the problem. 777 00:42:27,266 --> 00:42:28,883 It not only brings your knife out 778 00:42:28,966 --> 00:42:30,083 in an open position, 779 00:42:30,166 --> 00:42:33,166 but also you can present your blade closed. 780 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,783 This is the sheet that you need to go by very carefully 781 00:42:43,866 --> 00:42:46,317 to keep from being set up entrapped, et cetera. 782 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,400 So many people already have been in America. 783 00:42:52,833 --> 00:42:54,883 Please welcome the godfather 784 00:42:54,966 --> 00:42:57,966 of the militia movement, Mr. John Trochmann. 785 00:42:59,366 --> 00:43:01,350 Trochmann is appearing at what is called 786 00:43:01,433 --> 00:43:03,283 a preparedness expo. 787 00:43:03,366 --> 00:43:05,050 It's on our videotape over there too. 788 00:43:05,133 --> 00:43:06,450 Distrust of the government 789 00:43:06,533 --> 00:43:09,083 has increased considerably, says Trochmann. 790 00:43:09,166 --> 00:43:11,117 The bombs of Oklahoma went off. 791 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,200 For the next three months after that, we doubled in size. 792 00:43:23,066 --> 00:43:25,150 Good morning. Militia of Montana. 793 00:43:25,233 --> 00:43:27,750 From this tiny office, John Trochmann 794 00:43:27,833 --> 00:43:30,317 says he and his followers are leading a revolution. 795 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,400 They're now arming themselves against the federal government. 796 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,083 I don't think they leave us a choice 797 00:43:35,166 --> 00:43:36,417 if they continue on like this. 798 00:43:36,500 --> 00:43:37,950 They're the ones that will bring war to us. 799 00:43:38,033 --> 00:43:41,033 We will never bring war to them, they will bring it to us. 800 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,417 Promoting that kind of paranoia, 801 00:43:47,500 --> 00:43:49,583 conspiracy theory, vigilantism, 802 00:43:49,666 --> 00:43:51,917 take things into your own hands by force. 803 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,917 While the leaders of it might be very sincere 804 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,150 in believing that they will never be the ones 805 00:43:57,233 --> 00:43:59,417 to pull the trigger and shoot somebody. 806 00:43:59,500 --> 00:44:02,500 They nonetheless fuel the fires and create a climate 807 00:44:03,966 --> 00:44:06,966 in which some of their followers well might. 808 00:44:09,733 --> 00:44:11,283 Some militia groups now worry 809 00:44:11,366 --> 00:44:14,017 that the US government, aided by foreign countries, 810 00:44:14,100 --> 00:44:17,100 could use the computer collapse as an excuse to grab more power. 811 00:44:57,266 --> 00:45:00,266 Greetings folks. In the spring of 1997, 812 00:45:00,866 --> 00:45:02,583 we produced a video production called 813 00:45:02,666 --> 00:45:05,050 America's Judgments, What Lies Ahead. 814 00:45:05,133 --> 00:45:07,250 We were aware of Y2K, but at the time, 815 00:45:07,333 --> 00:45:08,717 we did not take it serious enough 816 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,283 to put it in our video. 817 00:45:10,366 --> 00:45:12,083 Not until we did our own investigation 818 00:45:12,166 --> 00:45:15,166 did we realize how serious it actually could be. 819 00:45:16,100 --> 00:45:17,583 Don't take my word for it. 820 00:45:17,666 --> 00:45:20,150 Let us share with you the documentation 821 00:45:20,233 --> 00:45:21,550 that we have here. 822 00:45:21,633 --> 00:45:23,450 And you can make up your own minds. 823 00:45:23,533 --> 00:45:25,817 On December 3rd, 1998. John Koskinen, 824 00:45:25,900 --> 00:45:28,900 which is the Y2K guru for President Clinton, said, 825 00:45:30,500 --> 00:45:32,250 "In a crisis and emergency situation, 826 00:45:32,333 --> 00:45:34,050 the free market may not 827 00:45:34,133 --> 00:45:36,650 be the best way to distribute resources." 828 00:45:36,733 --> 00:45:39,733 "If there is a point in time where we have to take resources 829 00:45:40,666 --> 00:45:42,583 and make a judgment on an emergency basis, 830 00:45:42,666 --> 00:45:45,350 we will be prepared to do that." 831 00:45:45,433 --> 00:45:48,433 So folks, now that we perceive there may be a problem with Y2K 832 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,150 and their dirty little tricks, 833 00:45:52,233 --> 00:45:54,283 what do you think the government is doing about it? 834 00:45:54,366 --> 00:45:57,366 Perhaps we ought to have a look. 835 00:46:10,100 --> 00:46:11,717 We have increasing confidence 836 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,417 that the basic infrastructure in the United States will hold. 837 00:46:14,500 --> 00:46:15,717 The grid will hold. 838 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,117 I think major telecommunication systems will hold. 839 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,017 We're increasingly confident 840 00:46:20,100 --> 00:46:21,883 that the basic infrastructure will hold. 841 00:46:21,966 --> 00:46:23,583 There's no evidence that we're gonna have 842 00:46:23,666 --> 00:46:24,783 a national catastrophe. 843 00:46:24,866 --> 00:46:25,817 Mission critical systems 844 00:46:25,900 --> 00:46:27,050 of the federal government are gonna work. 845 00:46:27,133 --> 00:46:30,133 So we're in pretty good shape. 846 00:46:30,566 --> 00:46:33,566 I guess I'll start off with the criticism 847 00:46:33,866 --> 00:46:36,717 from the Y2K community, 848 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,250 maybe because you represent the government. 849 00:46:39,333 --> 00:46:40,417 But the criticism has been 850 00:46:40,500 --> 00:46:42,250 that you've been overly optimistic 851 00:46:42,333 --> 00:46:44,017 about your assessments. 852 00:46:44,100 --> 00:46:46,650 I think what you have to do is take with a grain of salt, 853 00:46:46,733 --> 00:46:48,350 uh, those people who are concerned about 854 00:46:48,433 --> 00:46:50,883 whether we were over optimistic or under optimistic. 855 00:46:50,966 --> 00:46:53,250 The ultimate rumor I would like to dispel 856 00:46:53,333 --> 00:46:55,250 is that somehow we have information 857 00:46:55,333 --> 00:46:57,283 in the federal government or in the President's Council 858 00:46:57,366 --> 00:46:59,183 that we're not sharing with the public. 859 00:46:59,266 --> 00:47:02,183 And there is no evidence, 860 00:47:02,266 --> 00:47:03,517 nobody's ever been able to establish 861 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:04,817 something we know that we haven't told. 862 00:47:04,900 --> 00:47:07,850 And in fact, our strategy, for now going on to two years, 863 00:47:07,933 --> 00:47:09,183 has been to share with the public 864 00:47:09,266 --> 00:47:11,017 everything we have as we get it. 865 00:47:11,100 --> 00:47:13,050 So the... As I said, I think the rumor 866 00:47:13,133 --> 00:47:14,817 that there's this secret information 867 00:47:14,900 --> 00:47:16,883 that we're somehow afraid to release 868 00:47:16,966 --> 00:47:18,250 is just that, a rumor. 869 00:47:18,333 --> 00:47:20,317 Do you think that on the other side, 870 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,883 that there are areas or people 871 00:47:22,966 --> 00:47:25,966 that are actually contributing to panic? 872 00:47:27,700 --> 00:47:30,483 Well, there are clearly those from the start, 873 00:47:30,566 --> 00:47:32,150 over the last three to four years, 874 00:47:32,233 --> 00:47:33,983 who have, for one reason or another, 875 00:47:34,066 --> 00:47:37,066 been predicting the end of the world as we know it. 876 00:47:47,566 --> 00:47:49,050 Surf through the internet these days 877 00:47:49,133 --> 00:47:52,133 and you keep coming across a strange new word, TEOTWAWKI. 878 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:54,783 The word stands for 879 00:47:54,866 --> 00:47:57,866 "The End Of The World As We Know It." 880 00:48:00,833 --> 00:48:03,833 For a growing number of people, the year 2000 is not a milestone 881 00:48:04,466 --> 00:48:07,466 as much as it is a sign of some sort of impending chaos. 882 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,450 We're reaching a climax 883 00:48:11,533 --> 00:48:13,783 where things have become so evil 884 00:48:13,866 --> 00:48:16,866 and the world has become in such a state 885 00:48:16,966 --> 00:48:19,966 that it's ushering in the entrance of Christ. 886 00:48:21,733 --> 00:48:24,733 The last time this happened 1,000 years ago, the year 1000. 887 00:48:25,266 --> 00:48:26,783 Man, there were end of the world cults 888 00:48:26,866 --> 00:48:28,317 and all sorts of doomsday stuff 889 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:29,450 and people were going around 890 00:48:29,533 --> 00:48:30,617 hitting themselves with whips and stuff. 891 00:48:30,700 --> 00:48:32,183 Do you think that's gonna happen this year? 892 00:48:32,266 --> 00:48:34,783 I hope not. 893 00:48:34,866 --> 00:48:37,750 I don't feel like the exact year 2000 894 00:48:37,833 --> 00:48:39,683 is the year all hell breaks loose. 895 00:48:39,766 --> 00:48:42,283 But I just feel like in every holy scripture, 896 00:48:42,366 --> 00:48:44,017 it has been predicted that this time 897 00:48:44,100 --> 00:48:47,100 would be a significant time. You know what I'm saying? 898 00:48:48,933 --> 00:48:51,933 The concept of the millennium is a Christian concept. 899 00:48:52,466 --> 00:48:55,466 People in general have a sense that the world 900 00:48:56,566 --> 00:48:59,566 isn't the way they'd want the world to be. 901 00:49:00,033 --> 00:49:02,550 An event which focuses that energy 902 00:49:02,633 --> 00:49:05,633 takes out a magnifying glass and puts it above the tinderbox. 903 00:49:09,966 --> 00:49:11,883 The ten hours that my son stays 904 00:49:11,966 --> 00:49:13,383 in front of the computer, 905 00:49:13,466 --> 00:49:16,466 it's almost become an idol. So it's maybe only just 906 00:49:16,833 --> 00:49:19,833 that this idol comes crashing down. 907 00:49:21,166 --> 00:49:24,166 The question I ask myself is this... 908 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,400 "Could this be God's way to bring revival to America?" 909 00:49:31,733 --> 00:49:34,050 Now all of this should come as no surprise 910 00:49:34,133 --> 00:49:36,117 considering a recent Newsweek poll 911 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:37,983 saying 40 percent of Americans 912 00:49:38,066 --> 00:49:41,066 believe the world will end as Revelation describes. 913 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,383 I have the feeling that something terrible 914 00:49:43,466 --> 00:49:46,466 is going to happen. 915 00:49:47,066 --> 00:49:48,250 "The end of the world." 916 00:49:48,333 --> 00:49:49,750 "A guide to millennium madness." 917 00:49:49,833 --> 00:49:52,833 How much of this is that the fear of Y2K 918 00:49:53,933 --> 00:49:56,650 may now be bigger than Y2K? 919 00:49:56,733 --> 00:49:58,317 It's not just that. 920 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,117 It's that there are now two camps. 921 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:01,917 There are the people like myself who are saying 922 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,017 we have a technical problem, let's deal with it. 923 00:50:04,100 --> 00:50:05,417 And then quite frankly, 924 00:50:05,500 --> 00:50:07,483 there are people in the far right 925 00:50:07,566 --> 00:50:10,566 on the fringe elements of the religious area, 926 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,800 who are deliberately predicting the very, very worst. 927 00:50:15,133 --> 00:50:18,133 The message is getting mixed, and that both dilutes my message 928 00:50:19,766 --> 00:50:22,766 and amplifies this stuff. -Yes, this kind of... 929 00:50:23,366 --> 00:50:24,883 And this is one of the reasons 930 00:50:24,966 --> 00:50:26,350 why the far right 931 00:50:26,433 --> 00:50:29,417 have seized upon year 2000, because it is a problem. 932 00:50:29,500 --> 00:50:30,850 And they can point to the newspaper 933 00:50:30,933 --> 00:50:32,717 every single day and say, "See, I told you. 934 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,117 I told you." -Yeah. 935 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:35,483 And that's what's getting people 936 00:50:35,566 --> 00:50:38,566 who don't understand technology very, very frightened. 937 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,400 We are going to be discussing one of the most serious topics 938 00:50:53,533 --> 00:50:56,083 that we have ever attempted to bring to you. 939 00:50:56,166 --> 00:50:58,283 Jack, in fact, you've been so burdened... 940 00:50:58,366 --> 00:51:01,083 ...about this huge problem, 941 00:51:01,166 --> 00:51:04,166 that this is an emergency video that we're making, actually. 942 00:51:06,100 --> 00:51:09,100 After studying 250 to 300 major reports 943 00:51:09,966 --> 00:51:12,783 from experts globally, 944 00:51:12,866 --> 00:51:15,866 I can honestly say I'm shocked, startled, and stunned. 945 00:51:18,833 --> 00:51:21,183 If these men are right, 946 00:51:21,266 --> 00:51:24,266 this whole world is going to rock and roll, 947 00:51:24,433 --> 00:51:27,433 it's going to reel to and fro. 948 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,250 What am I to do about this? 949 00:51:30,333 --> 00:51:33,333 Well, God says my job is to warn you. 950 00:51:35,133 --> 00:51:37,150 Let's narrow it right down there, Jack. 951 00:51:37,233 --> 00:51:40,233 How's the Y2K problem connected with the Lord's return? 952 00:51:41,833 --> 00:51:43,583 Satan, who's the God of this world, 953 00:51:43,666 --> 00:51:46,150 2nd Corinthians 4:4, is in control 954 00:51:46,233 --> 00:51:49,233 of heavens one and two. 955 00:51:49,633 --> 00:51:52,417 "He is the prince of the power of the air." 956 00:51:52,500 --> 00:51:53,450 Of the airwaves. 957 00:51:53,533 --> 00:51:56,350 Yes, the electricity and the currents. 958 00:51:56,433 --> 00:51:58,250 Well, you know, certainly Satan could take advantage 959 00:51:58,333 --> 00:52:01,083 of such a situation because he wants man's confusion 960 00:52:01,166 --> 00:52:03,150 just prior to the return of the Lord. 961 00:52:03,233 --> 00:52:06,233 I am literally amazed at the accuracy of this book. 962 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,200 Listen to this. "The passages are stopped 963 00:52:12,566 --> 00:52:15,566 and the men of war are frightened." 964 00:52:16,233 --> 00:52:17,383 What? 965 00:52:17,466 --> 00:52:20,466 The passages, the means of communication, computers... 966 00:52:23,500 --> 00:52:26,283 are stopped. 967 00:52:26,366 --> 00:52:28,950 It's so near. 968 00:52:29,033 --> 00:52:30,883 Are you ready? 969 00:52:30,966 --> 00:52:33,117 It's the night on everyone's mind. 970 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,050 This could affect half the continental United States. 971 00:52:36,133 --> 00:52:37,417 Three, two... 972 00:52:37,500 --> 00:52:39,317 The night they warned us about. 973 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,683 Now we're starting to see some problems. 974 00:52:41,766 --> 00:52:42,917 Happy New Year! 975 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:44,217 What if they're right? 976 00:52:44,300 --> 00:52:45,717 My God. 977 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:47,483 We have to start the evacuation. 978 00:52:47,566 --> 00:52:48,817 The survival of millions 979 00:52:48,900 --> 00:52:50,250 hangs in the balance. 980 00:52:50,333 --> 00:52:52,117 -We've lost this puppy. -Go! Everybody out! 981 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,117 Just tell yourself it's only a movie. 982 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,200 And now, Y2K: The Movie. 983 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,917 Our age of anxiety is truly the millennial age. 984 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:05,417 All the dread about AIDS, 985 00:53:05,500 --> 00:53:08,017 nuclear weapons, ecological disasters, 986 00:53:08,100 --> 00:53:11,100 point to a fear of an apocalyptic future. 987 00:53:11,333 --> 00:53:13,950 And at the same time, the dream of ending disease, 988 00:53:14,033 --> 00:53:16,683 of genetically altering crops to grow in the desert, 989 00:53:16,766 --> 00:53:18,517 of populating other planets, 990 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,483 all point to a hope for a perfect future. 991 00:53:21,566 --> 00:53:23,583 That's what the Millennium Myth is all about. 992 00:53:23,666 --> 00:53:25,983 That the human journey is one with a goal, 993 00:53:26,066 --> 00:53:29,066 an ultimate end of some sorts, a climax. 994 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,083 And tonight we're going to examine that myth 995 00:53:31,166 --> 00:53:34,166 and how it's playing out in our high-tech culture. 996 00:53:46,700 --> 00:53:49,417 I think popular culture, you know television, films, 997 00:53:49,500 --> 00:53:51,783 I think it is interesting to look at those 998 00:53:51,866 --> 00:53:54,283 and see what shape they take on at particular times. 999 00:53:54,366 --> 00:53:55,950 It's never arbitrary. 1000 00:53:56,033 --> 00:53:59,033 The world as it was at the end of the 20th century. 1001 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,000 It exists now only as part of a neural interactive simulation 1002 00:54:03,933 --> 00:54:06,933 that we call the Matrix. 1003 00:54:10,866 --> 00:54:11,983 This kind of anxiety 1004 00:54:12,066 --> 00:54:14,217 is not restricted to the fringes, 1005 00:54:14,300 --> 00:54:17,300 not restricted to Christians. 1006 00:54:18,700 --> 00:54:20,683 What in the hell is that? 1007 00:54:20,766 --> 00:54:23,766 It's everywhere. 1008 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,283 The culture comes under the influence 1009 00:54:28,366 --> 00:54:31,366 of this force of expectation. 1010 00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,917 And it's now focused, intensified 1011 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,000 by reaching this deadline. 1012 00:54:44,566 --> 00:54:47,566 Time's up. 1013 00:55:12,266 --> 00:55:14,983 Now, I got a story for you. A few years ago, 1014 00:55:15,066 --> 00:55:17,717 when all was quiet throughout the countryside, 1015 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,250 everyone had the general knowledge 1016 00:55:19,333 --> 00:55:22,017 that the turn of the century was at hand, the year 2000. 1017 00:55:22,100 --> 00:55:23,450 You like this, don't you? The year 2000 1018 00:55:23,533 --> 00:55:25,683 would soon be upon us, who would have thought? 1019 00:55:25,766 --> 00:55:27,383 And who would've thought that our next guest 1020 00:55:27,466 --> 00:55:28,650 would come to the forefront. 1021 00:55:28,733 --> 00:55:30,150 We welcome Peter de Jager. 1022 00:55:30,233 --> 00:55:32,050 Tonight, he is not gonna try to scare us. 1023 00:55:32,133 --> 00:55:33,317 Thank you so much for coming down. 1024 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:34,550 You're welcome. -Tell me this, 1025 00:55:34,633 --> 00:55:36,950 how do you put yourself in a situation where at first 1026 00:55:37,033 --> 00:55:38,050 you were one of the ones saying 1027 00:55:38,133 --> 00:55:39,683 watch out for Y2K, and then... -Absolutely. 1028 00:55:39,766 --> 00:55:40,950 ...if I understand you correctly, 1029 00:55:41,033 --> 00:55:42,783 now you're saying to everyone, 1030 00:55:42,866 --> 00:55:45,550 "Don't panic, calm down. It's not gonna be that bad." 1031 00:55:45,633 --> 00:55:47,283 What's the difference? -In the beginning, 1032 00:55:47,366 --> 00:55:48,617 when we started to speak about this, 1033 00:55:48,700 --> 00:55:50,250 myself and many others, 1034 00:55:50,333 --> 00:55:52,050 there had been very little work done, 1035 00:55:52,133 --> 00:55:54,983 and very little attention or respect paid to this problem. 1036 00:55:55,066 --> 00:55:56,817 So there was a huge risk that if we didn't fix it, 1037 00:55:56,900 --> 00:55:58,583 there would be consequences. 1038 00:55:58,666 --> 00:56:01,666 Today, you know, five, six, seven years later down the line, 1039 00:56:02,100 --> 00:56:03,850 the banks and the insurance companies, 1040 00:56:03,933 --> 00:56:06,183 governments and power companies have all done 1041 00:56:06,266 --> 00:56:07,983 a tremendous amount of work, you know, 1042 00:56:08,066 --> 00:56:10,183 hundreds of billions of dollars have been spent 1043 00:56:10,266 --> 00:56:11,717 on this problem worldwide. 1044 00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,683 And we have averted many of the scenarios, 1045 00:56:14,766 --> 00:56:17,517 the disaster scenarios that we first came up with, 1046 00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,050 that we used to convince people that they should pay attention. 1047 00:56:20,133 --> 00:56:22,650 They have paid attention. 1048 00:56:22,733 --> 00:56:25,050 That's a sound that gets your attention real quick. 1049 00:56:25,133 --> 00:56:27,983 Well, the end of the year is bringing a big increase in, 1050 00:56:28,066 --> 00:56:29,750 of all things, gun sales. 1051 00:56:29,833 --> 00:56:32,650 And it's apparently being sparked at least in part 1052 00:56:32,733 --> 00:56:35,050 by fear that the coming of the new year 1053 00:56:35,133 --> 00:56:38,133 will bring a new wave of violence. 1054 00:56:39,900 --> 00:56:42,417 Y2K gun buyers say they're afraid of everything 1055 00:56:42,500 --> 00:56:44,783 from terrorism to 911 failures. 1056 00:56:44,866 --> 00:56:47,317 I just wanted to be prepared in case, 1057 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:48,950 you know, anything happens for Y2K 1058 00:56:49,033 --> 00:56:52,033 just to have an ounce of prevention, you know? 1059 00:56:52,133 --> 00:56:53,417 Sharon is not alone. 1060 00:56:53,500 --> 00:56:55,717 Mandatory gun background checks this month 1061 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,250 are up 20 percent from last December 1062 00:56:58,333 --> 00:57:00,650 and last Thursday set the record. 1063 00:57:00,733 --> 00:57:03,733 Sixty-seven thousand checks in one day. 1064 00:57:07,433 --> 00:57:08,917 News organizations in this country, 1065 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,150 including this one, are trying to avoid 1066 00:57:11,233 --> 00:57:14,217 causing any kind of panic with reports about terrorism 1067 00:57:14,300 --> 00:57:15,550 and the coming new year. 1068 00:57:15,633 --> 00:57:18,633 Tonight fear avoidance is getting rather difficult. 1069 00:57:19,066 --> 00:57:20,717 I'm concerned about the terrorism. 1070 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,217 I don't have any intention to leave my house. 1071 00:57:23,300 --> 00:57:24,517 The principal concern, 1072 00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:25,717 Osama bin Laden. 1073 00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:27,817 A flurry of activity by his followers 1074 00:57:27,900 --> 00:57:30,900 leads experts to believe he is planning another attack. 1075 00:57:31,866 --> 00:57:33,883 The threat of homegrown terrorism 1076 00:57:33,966 --> 00:57:35,317 suddenly became clear 1077 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,183 with the arrest of two men linked 1078 00:57:37,266 --> 00:57:40,266 to anti-government militias near Sacramento. 1079 00:57:42,433 --> 00:57:45,083 In New York City, officials scoffed at the idea 1080 00:57:45,166 --> 00:57:47,983 of canceling New Year's Eve in Times Square. 1081 00:57:48,066 --> 00:57:50,950 We are literally doing everything we possibly can 1082 00:57:51,033 --> 00:57:54,033 to make it as safe as we can make it. 1083 00:57:58,200 --> 00:57:59,817 We're coming here a little bit early 1084 00:57:59,900 --> 00:58:01,450 to kind of be a part of it 1085 00:58:01,533 --> 00:58:04,083 even though we're not coming in on New Year's Eve. 1086 00:58:04,166 --> 00:58:05,617 You're not coming to Times Square? -Nah. 1087 00:58:05,700 --> 00:58:06,883 I'm not coming to Times Square, 1088 00:58:06,966 --> 00:58:08,750 I'm just gonna watch it from television at home. 1089 00:58:08,833 --> 00:58:10,117 I'm exhausted. -Mm-hmm. 1090 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,200 I don't wanna hear another thing about Y2K. 1091 00:58:13,433 --> 00:58:15,183 What are we doing on New Year's Eve? 1092 00:58:15,266 --> 00:58:17,183 We'll be hiding somewhere. 1093 00:58:17,266 --> 00:58:19,550 In case the world ends or something. 1094 00:58:19,633 --> 00:58:21,017 You know? -But we're very optimistic. 1095 00:58:21,100 --> 00:58:24,100 In case everything just goes... 1096 00:58:24,700 --> 00:58:26,183 These computer programmers 1097 00:58:26,266 --> 00:58:29,050 have been hired to double check line after line 1098 00:58:29,133 --> 00:58:30,250 of computer code. 1099 00:58:30,333 --> 00:58:32,550 Clients are still sending us code 1100 00:58:32,633 --> 00:58:34,583 to be inspected for Y2K 1101 00:58:34,666 --> 00:58:37,666 and we are definitely still finding errors. 1102 00:58:40,566 --> 00:58:42,017 Tonight, by one estimate, 1103 00:58:42,100 --> 00:58:45,100 seventy percent of Americans buying emergency supplies 1104 00:58:45,300 --> 00:58:48,017 to welcome the new year. 1105 00:58:48,100 --> 00:58:50,950 Basically, they don't know what to expect. 1106 00:58:51,033 --> 00:58:52,850 Planes will fall out of the sky 1107 00:58:52,933 --> 00:58:55,317 and all the world's nuclear weapons will explode, 1108 00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,383 annihilating the entire planet. 1109 00:58:57,466 --> 00:59:00,466 No! 1110 00:59:01,166 --> 00:59:03,550 We're more concerned with people problems 1111 00:59:03,633 --> 00:59:05,483 as opposed to technology failures 1112 00:59:05,566 --> 00:59:08,566 on New Year's Eve. 1113 00:59:08,933 --> 00:59:11,183 They're hiring more police officers 1114 00:59:11,266 --> 00:59:13,350 because they think there might be some riots. 1115 00:59:13,433 --> 00:59:15,350 Well, I hope those police officers don't, 1116 00:59:15,433 --> 00:59:17,050 you know, encourage the violence. 1117 00:59:17,133 --> 00:59:19,850 Oh, my, yes! 1118 00:59:19,933 --> 00:59:22,450 You bastard! That's better. 1119 00:59:22,533 --> 00:59:24,217 First thing that's gonna happen when the electric goes off, 1120 00:59:24,300 --> 00:59:27,300 people are gonna panic, because fear's gonna set in. 1121 00:59:31,866 --> 00:59:34,450 First the lights will go out in Asia. 1122 00:59:34,533 --> 00:59:37,533 And as the time slips by here in the Midwest, 1123 00:59:37,766 --> 00:59:40,766 we'll see the lights go out in New York City. 1124 00:59:43,366 --> 00:59:46,250 At the end of every major piece of time, 1125 00:59:46,333 --> 00:59:49,333 it's a paranoid and pathological time. 1126 00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,800 Lots of weird stuff happens all over the world. 1127 00:59:55,833 --> 00:59:57,583 We're turning over another 1,000 years, 1128 00:59:57,666 --> 01:00:00,666 it's not like we're turning over a year, ten years, 100 years. 1129 01:00:00,966 --> 01:00:03,966 We're talking another 1,000. We're talking the 21st century. 1130 01:00:04,633 --> 01:00:06,583 So it's, I mean... 1131 01:00:06,666 --> 01:00:09,350 I think more than anything, you gotta celebrate it. 1132 01:00:09,433 --> 01:00:11,217 And as long as you have a lot of people out there, 1133 01:00:11,300 --> 01:00:14,300 you can expect anything and everything to happen. 1134 01:00:18,433 --> 01:00:20,017 Where you going? -Home. 1135 01:00:20,100 --> 01:00:21,750 Did you have any idea about this? 1136 01:00:21,833 --> 01:00:22,917 -No. What is it? -What is it? 1137 01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,317 It's a concert, uh, for the millennium, 1138 01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,400 -a group called Fish. -Oh, jeez. 1139 01:00:32,366 --> 01:00:33,483 Good morning and welcome 1140 01:00:33,566 --> 01:00:35,450 to the very edge of the 21st century. 1141 01:00:35,533 --> 01:00:37,983 Good morning, you hearty souls, I should say. 1142 01:00:38,066 --> 01:00:41,017 It's a little before 5:00 a.m. here in Times Square. 1143 01:00:41,100 --> 01:00:43,483 And for the next 24 hours, we're going to try to share 1144 01:00:43,566 --> 01:00:45,350 this extraordinary occasion 1145 01:00:45,433 --> 01:00:47,383 with much of the rest of the world. 1146 01:00:47,466 --> 01:00:50,466 So let us now go and have a look at Kiribati in the Pacific, 1147 01:00:50,833 --> 01:00:52,650 the closest island, this morning, 1148 01:00:52,733 --> 01:00:54,150 to the International Date Line, 1149 01:00:54,233 --> 01:00:57,233 the first celebration of the millennium. 1150 01:01:21,333 --> 01:01:23,617 We're covering breaking news this morning. 1151 01:01:23,700 --> 01:01:26,083 We're getting word out of Russia, out of Moscow, 1152 01:01:26,166 --> 01:01:28,283 that there is a big change in store 1153 01:01:28,366 --> 01:01:29,483 for the Russian leadership. 1154 01:01:29,566 --> 01:01:31,350 We go now to CNN's Eileen O'Connor, 1155 01:01:31,433 --> 01:01:33,450 who's standing by in Moscow with the very latest on this. 1156 01:01:33,533 --> 01:01:34,617 Eileen. 1157 01:01:34,700 --> 01:01:37,700 Well, right now, Boris Yeltsin has just announced 1158 01:01:38,133 --> 01:01:39,517 that he is going to cede 1159 01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,250 the reins of power to the presidency 1160 01:01:41,333 --> 01:01:43,517 to his prime minister, Vladimir Putin, 1161 01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:45,750 effective, he says, immediately. 1162 01:01:45,833 --> 01:01:47,850 Now, this does come as a surprise, 1163 01:01:47,933 --> 01:01:50,783 but Vladimir Putin is a very popular prime minister, 1164 01:01:50,866 --> 01:01:53,517 he is known as a person who wants a strong Russia. 1165 01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:55,483 He took great pains, by the way, Leon, 1166 01:01:55,566 --> 01:01:58,566 to say that that does not mean an overbearing, imperial Russia. 1167 01:01:58,933 --> 01:02:00,750 It means a stable Russia. 1168 01:02:00,833 --> 01:02:02,750 CNN's Eileen O'Connor reporting live 1169 01:02:02,833 --> 01:02:04,283 from Moscow. Colleen. 1170 01:02:04,366 --> 01:02:05,583 It is 18 hours 1171 01:02:05,666 --> 01:02:07,717 before the new year in New York City. 1172 01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:09,483 Carol, what's going on in the heart of the Big Apple 1173 01:02:09,566 --> 01:02:11,217 right now? 1174 01:02:11,300 --> 01:02:12,983 Colleen, what is about to happen 1175 01:02:13,066 --> 01:02:15,717 is that they're gonna light up the new crystal ball 1176 01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,800 and it will begin its ascension up a 77-foot flagpole at the top 1177 01:02:21,233 --> 01:02:24,233 of the One Times Square building. 1178 01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:27,783 There it goes, 1179 01:02:27,866 --> 01:02:30,650 this magnificent Waterford Crystal Ball. 1180 01:02:30,733 --> 01:02:33,217 They've pulled the switch. 1181 01:02:33,300 --> 01:02:36,300 They've lighted it up. 1182 01:02:36,833 --> 01:02:39,833 An elaborate hardware and software system 1183 01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,400 descending into this square which is... 1184 01:02:44,933 --> 01:02:47,933 in itself all about electronic hardware now, 1185 01:02:48,566 --> 01:02:51,566 selling products all over the world. 1186 01:02:53,900 --> 01:02:55,250 You're looking at a live picture 1187 01:02:55,333 --> 01:02:56,517 of Auckland, New Zealand, 1188 01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,600 where the year 2000 is just about a minute away. 1189 01:03:02,133 --> 01:03:05,133 Now, New Zealand is one of the first big tests 1190 01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,400 of the possible effects of the Y2K computer bug, 1191 01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:10,383 officials in the US 1192 01:03:10,466 --> 01:03:13,466 are watching New Zealand very closely. 1193 01:03:24,033 --> 01:03:25,117 Let there be light. 1194 01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,200 And there is light behind us. The electricity is A-okay. 1195 01:03:35,900 --> 01:03:38,083 Inside the government's command center, 1196 01:03:38,166 --> 01:03:41,166 computer experts report a stable situation so far, 1197 01:03:41,500 --> 01:03:43,317 with no Y2K glitches, 1198 01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,017 starting with the US territory of Guam. 1199 01:03:46,100 --> 01:03:47,917 A plane landed and a baby was born, 1200 01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:51,000 so that business continues as normal. 1201 01:03:53,333 --> 01:03:55,650 Across Japan, a million office workers 1202 01:03:55,733 --> 01:03:56,717 sat at their desks 1203 01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:58,817 and nervously watched their computers 1204 01:03:58,900 --> 01:04:00,783 as midnight came and went. 1205 01:04:00,866 --> 01:04:03,750 There were minor problems at two nuclear power plants. 1206 01:04:03,833 --> 01:04:06,833 Officials are probing for any Y2K bugs. 1207 01:04:07,100 --> 01:04:09,717 Neither plant's operation was affected. 1208 01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:11,617 I am standing at ground zero, 1209 01:04:11,700 --> 01:04:14,150 in case of any accidental nuclear missile launch. 1210 01:04:14,233 --> 01:04:15,617 And just a few miles from here, 1211 01:04:15,700 --> 01:04:18,700 Russian military officers are sitting side by side 1212 01:04:18,866 --> 01:04:20,883 with American military officers, 1213 01:04:20,966 --> 01:04:23,966 working to fight a common enemy, the Y2K menace. 1214 01:04:31,733 --> 01:04:33,283 While we are encouraged 1215 01:04:33,366 --> 01:04:35,983 by the positive reports thus far, uh, 1216 01:04:36,066 --> 01:04:37,650 we should all remember 1217 01:04:37,733 --> 01:04:40,733 that we have many miles to go before we sleep. 1218 01:04:42,266 --> 01:04:44,750 For the time being, no news is good news. 1219 01:04:44,833 --> 01:04:47,833 So far, so good. 1220 01:04:48,166 --> 01:04:50,117 So far, so good on the Y2K Watch. 1221 01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:53,200 Good news all around so far in terms of that Y2K bug. 1222 01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,200 So far, so good. 1223 01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:00,683 You're looking live, once again as the crowds 1224 01:05:00,766 --> 01:05:02,283 who gathered in Times Square 1225 01:05:02,366 --> 01:05:04,850 could reach two million people before midnight tonight. 1226 01:05:04,933 --> 01:05:06,817 Obviously, they're not worried about terrorism 1227 01:05:06,900 --> 01:05:09,900 or Y2K computer bugs. 1228 01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,683 The excitement among the crowd is palpable. 1229 01:05:14,766 --> 01:05:17,483 This crowd has been shouting, "Three, two, one," 1230 01:05:17,566 --> 01:05:19,150 it seems every hour... 1231 01:05:19,233 --> 01:05:20,983 ...as the millennium has been breaking 1232 01:05:21,066 --> 01:05:22,417 all across the planet. 1233 01:05:22,500 --> 01:05:23,450 You'd think that by now 1234 01:05:23,533 --> 01:05:24,817 these people would be tuckered out, 1235 01:05:24,900 --> 01:05:27,900 but in fact, it seems the excitement is growing. 1236 01:05:31,933 --> 01:05:34,117 A lot of very happy people right now. 1237 01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,150 Amazingly, a very small percentage 1238 01:05:36,233 --> 01:05:37,350 of these people are New Yorkers. 1239 01:05:37,433 --> 01:05:38,817 These people are from all over the world. 1240 01:05:38,900 --> 01:05:41,900 These folks, California, Washington, what other states? 1241 01:05:42,133 --> 01:05:44,450 Florida, Oklahoma. Unbelievable turnout. 1242 01:05:44,533 --> 01:05:45,583 You having a good time? 1243 01:05:45,666 --> 01:05:48,183 Oh! I'm lovin' it. I am lovin' it. 1244 01:05:48,266 --> 01:05:50,850 The big moment is just a few hours away 1245 01:05:50,933 --> 01:05:52,483 from us here in the United States. 1246 01:05:52,566 --> 01:05:55,017 And while the rest of New York is partying, maybe all... 1247 01:05:55,100 --> 01:05:57,283 They're all tourists out in Times Square tonight, 1248 01:05:57,366 --> 01:05:59,617 the rest of Silicon Alley and Wall Street and whatever, 1249 01:05:59,700 --> 01:06:01,050 the computer experts 1250 01:06:01,133 --> 01:06:04,133 will all be there at their terminals. 1251 01:06:13,233 --> 01:06:14,817 Liz in Escondido, California. 1252 01:06:14,900 --> 01:06:16,317 Hi, Liz. -Hi. 1253 01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:19,400 Um, I'd just like to observe that initially, 1254 01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,517 the Y2K kind of started off as this global fear, 1255 01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:25,550 maybe subconscious fear, of technology, kind of like, 1256 01:06:25,633 --> 01:06:28,633 you know, Frankenstein had at the rise of industrialism. 1257 01:06:28,833 --> 01:06:31,833 But what I see it turning into is kind of just an awareness 1258 01:06:32,100 --> 01:06:34,517 of how connected everyone is globally. 1259 01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:36,150 And if you're tuned into the TVs at all, 1260 01:06:36,233 --> 01:06:39,233 I mean, we're watching the celebrations, you know, 1261 01:06:39,700 --> 01:06:41,450 roll over each time zone 1262 01:06:41,533 --> 01:06:44,533 and it's really more, uh, kind of a global 1263 01:06:45,466 --> 01:06:46,850 love-in or something. 1264 01:06:46,933 --> 01:06:48,983 You think this is a unifying experience 1265 01:06:49,066 --> 01:06:51,250 versus a divisive one? -Yeah. Yeah. 1266 01:06:51,333 --> 01:06:52,550 Because, uh, I... 1267 01:06:52,633 --> 01:06:55,633 We're all now more aware of how connected we are. 1268 01:07:08,466 --> 01:07:10,117 This crowd size, as we can see 1269 01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:11,217 from the tenth floor 1270 01:07:11,300 --> 01:07:14,300 of the Marriott Marquis hotel here, is big. 1271 01:07:15,433 --> 01:07:17,683 Interestingly enough, you at home 1272 01:07:17,766 --> 01:07:19,817 probably are in the majority this year 1273 01:07:19,900 --> 01:07:22,050 because they ran a poll recently 1274 01:07:22,133 --> 01:07:25,133 and Americans staying home this year are 72 percent. 1275 01:07:30,100 --> 01:07:31,650 Freakin' New Year, dude! 1276 01:07:31,733 --> 01:07:34,733 Freakin' New Year! -Yeah. 1277 01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:36,883 Are you taking a photograph or a video? 1278 01:07:36,966 --> 01:07:38,683 It does both. 1279 01:07:38,766 --> 01:07:40,850 Is that digital? -Uh-huh. 1280 01:07:40,933 --> 01:07:43,683 Yeah. So it takes a picture. I can send it to you. 1281 01:07:43,766 --> 01:07:45,350 It's a video! 1282 01:07:45,433 --> 01:07:48,433 Happy New Year! -Happy New Year! 1283 01:07:49,966 --> 01:07:51,617 I feel like part of the global village. 1284 01:07:51,700 --> 01:07:53,817 I feel connected to the rest of humanity. 1285 01:07:53,900 --> 01:07:56,900 I'm ready for the aliens to land. 1286 01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:03,283 What is your New Year's resolution? 1287 01:08:03,366 --> 01:08:05,483 I don't know! 1288 01:08:05,566 --> 01:08:08,566 My New Year's resolution is to collect all 100... 1289 01:08:09,766 --> 01:08:11,817 all the Pokémon cards 1290 01:08:11,900 --> 01:08:14,317 that they've ever came out with. Whoo! 1291 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,400 My New Year's resolution would be to study more and... 1292 01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:19,682 be a better example 1293 01:08:19,765 --> 01:08:21,050 for the people that are around me. 1294 01:08:21,133 --> 01:08:23,050 I'm doing everything right, don't need to change anything, 1295 01:08:23,133 --> 01:08:24,650 just even keel. 1296 01:08:24,733 --> 01:08:27,182 Yeah, live life to its fullest, of course, 1297 01:08:27,265 --> 01:08:30,150 and to just take life for what it's worth, 1298 01:08:30,233 --> 01:08:31,383 a wonderful gift. 1299 01:08:31,466 --> 01:08:34,466 2000 is gonna be wonderful, I'm looking forward to it. 1300 01:08:34,765 --> 01:08:37,749 Um, there's nothing I want more right now 1301 01:08:37,832 --> 01:08:40,517 than for the entire world to explode. 1302 01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:41,783 Well, here it comes. 1303 01:08:41,866 --> 01:08:43,283 Here it is. -11:51. 1304 01:08:43,366 --> 01:08:45,650 Digital bug. -Here it is. 1305 01:08:45,733 --> 01:08:47,717 Cheers. -Happy millennium! 1306 01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:49,550 Cheers! 1307 01:08:49,633 --> 01:08:51,450 Especially at the end of the century, 1308 01:08:51,533 --> 01:08:53,883 it's always good to take stock. 1309 01:08:53,966 --> 01:08:56,850 We split the atom, invented jazz and rock, 1310 01:08:56,933 --> 01:08:59,617 launched airplanes and landed on the moon, 1311 01:08:59,700 --> 01:09:02,249 concocted a general theory of relativity, 1312 01:09:02,332 --> 01:09:03,950 devised the transistor, 1313 01:09:04,033 --> 01:09:06,249 and figured out how to etch millions of them 1314 01:09:06,332 --> 01:09:08,283 on tiny microchips. 1315 01:09:08,366 --> 01:09:11,366 We discovered penicillin and the structure of DNA, 1316 01:09:11,566 --> 01:09:14,566 defeated fascism and communism, developed cinema and television, 1317 01:09:16,300 --> 01:09:19,300 built fantastic highways, and wired the world. 1318 01:09:20,133 --> 01:09:22,517 We ponder these things in joy, 1319 01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:24,517 but also in prayerful humility. 1320 01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:26,550 As we now move into the challenge 1321 01:09:26,633 --> 01:09:29,617 and the danger of a new unknown. 1322 01:09:29,700 --> 01:09:32,682 The dawn of the 21st century. 1323 01:09:32,765 --> 01:09:35,517 Okay, now everyone sit like this... 1324 01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:38,316 ...and wait for the lights to go out. 1325 01:09:38,399 --> 01:09:39,883 I know, this is shit... 1326 01:09:39,966 --> 01:09:42,283 What if everything just went out right now? 1327 01:09:42,366 --> 01:09:45,366 Here we go. 1328 01:09:45,733 --> 01:09:47,883 You were wise to stay at home. In one minute, 1329 01:09:47,966 --> 01:09:50,966 the ball will drop and you will see pandemonium. 1330 01:09:56,100 --> 01:09:59,100 The ball is beginning to move. They can feel it. 1331 01:10:08,966 --> 01:10:11,966 Happy New Year! 1332 01:10:23,633 --> 01:10:24,883 Well, you gotta watch the show. 1333 01:10:24,966 --> 01:10:27,950 I think they're gonna do something. 1334 01:10:28,033 --> 01:10:31,033 Hi! 1335 01:10:32,333 --> 01:10:35,333 The lights are gonna go on, everybody's gonna go crazy. 1336 01:10:35,433 --> 01:10:38,433 Behind the clock. 1337 01:10:39,866 --> 01:10:40,983 Ten seconds. 1338 01:10:41,066 --> 01:10:44,066 Nine, eight, seven, six, five, 1339 01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,600 four, three, two, one. 1340 01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:54,400 Happy 2000! 1341 01:11:19,466 --> 01:11:21,817 It's the biggest thrill of my life 1342 01:11:21,900 --> 01:11:24,900 and I made so many new friends to carry on the next millennium. 1343 01:11:25,033 --> 01:11:26,050 It's awesome! 1344 01:11:26,133 --> 01:11:27,583 In this crowd? -Oh, yeah. 1345 01:11:27,666 --> 01:11:28,817 The people are so nice. 1346 01:11:28,900 --> 01:11:30,817 There's such good energy about this crowd. 1347 01:11:30,900 --> 01:11:32,183 Nothing bad at all. 1348 01:11:32,266 --> 01:11:33,650 We didn't fall asleep. 1349 01:11:33,733 --> 01:11:36,517 They're a good crowd, best crowd yet. 1350 01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:39,600 This is disgusting. 1351 01:11:40,266 --> 01:11:43,266 Oh, Louise! 1352 01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:49,400 Happy New Year! 1353 01:11:49,866 --> 01:11:52,517 The lights are on, Bill. 1354 01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:54,250 I know. Everything's still working. 1355 01:11:54,333 --> 01:11:57,333 Everything's still working! 1356 01:12:00,966 --> 01:12:03,517 All right, is that enough pictures of the cake, you guys? 1357 01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:05,517 B-roll of the cake, right? That's right. 1358 01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:06,950 What do you hope for the New Year? 1359 01:12:07,033 --> 01:12:10,033 Peace in the world. Peace. Yeah, that's all. 1360 01:12:10,933 --> 01:12:12,617 -Wave to the camera. -Say, "Happy New Year." 1361 01:12:12,700 --> 01:12:13,850 Wave! Happy New Year. 1362 01:12:13,933 --> 01:12:14,950 Wave, Carol. 1363 01:12:15,033 --> 01:12:17,250 They're tired. Oh, thank you. 1364 01:12:17,333 --> 01:12:20,333 Happy New Year's to everybody. 1365 01:13:13,500 --> 01:13:16,500 This is a very new time for us. 1366 01:13:18,700 --> 01:13:21,700 We were confronted by these interdependent systems 1367 01:13:21,900 --> 01:13:24,900 we had created and realized that we are dependent on people 1368 01:13:25,900 --> 01:13:28,717 we don't even know. 1369 01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,350 And that's the great lesson from Y2K. 1370 01:13:31,433 --> 01:13:33,250 That no one can go through any 1371 01:13:33,333 --> 01:13:36,333 of the current dilemmas facing us alone. 1372 01:13:44,233 --> 01:13:47,233 The news. 1373 01:14:00,233 --> 01:14:03,233 Nothing happens. 1374 01:14:03,700 --> 01:14:05,217 Well, we made it. 1375 01:14:05,300 --> 01:14:07,483 The dire predictions of the last several months 1376 01:14:07,566 --> 01:14:10,566 dissolved in a potent mix of joy and celebration 1377 01:14:10,666 --> 01:14:12,617 all around the globe last night, 1378 01:14:12,700 --> 01:14:15,700 and that dreaded bug didn't bite. 1379 01:14:25,466 --> 01:14:28,466 We feel that we have come to a new planet, 1380 01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:32,817 uh, to a new planet 1381 01:14:32,900 --> 01:14:35,900 where there's peace, and there's no confusion. 1382 01:14:55,333 --> 01:14:57,317 Some people are questioning now whether 1383 01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:58,383 all of this was overkill. 1384 01:14:58,466 --> 01:14:59,950 What do you have to say about that? 1385 01:15:00,033 --> 01:15:02,150 I say that no one who worked on this problem thinks that. 1386 01:15:02,233 --> 01:15:05,233 They all understand, after several years of work 1387 01:15:05,566 --> 01:15:07,483 and spending hundreds of millions of dollars, 1388 01:15:07,566 --> 01:15:09,350 that we averted a major disaster 1389 01:15:09,433 --> 01:15:11,417 by successfully attacking the problem. 1390 01:15:11,500 --> 01:15:14,250 You said today that this may be your last briefing. 1391 01:15:14,333 --> 01:15:15,883 Are things going that well? 1392 01:15:15,966 --> 01:15:17,183 Things are actually going very well. 1393 01:15:17,266 --> 01:15:19,050 And we're delighted with the progress 1394 01:15:19,133 --> 01:15:20,417 that's been made. 1395 01:15:20,500 --> 01:15:22,817 It now appears very clear that the United States 1396 01:15:22,900 --> 01:15:25,717 and most of the world, in fact, all of world at this time 1397 01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:27,250 have made a successful transition 1398 01:15:27,333 --> 01:15:30,333 into the 21st century. 1399 01:15:37,266 --> 01:15:39,850 So now that Y2K and other anxieties 1400 01:15:39,933 --> 01:15:41,183 have subsided, 1401 01:15:41,266 --> 01:15:43,417 the time has come when at least some Americans 1402 01:15:43,500 --> 01:15:46,150 will actually start to sit up and take notice of the fact 1403 01:15:46,233 --> 01:15:48,983 that there's a presidential campaign going on 1404 01:15:49,066 --> 01:15:52,066 and the first big contest is coming up fast. 1405 01:15:54,300 --> 01:15:56,117 The man who warned us about Y2K 1406 01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:57,317 says it's a lesson about 1407 01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:59,550 how much we depend on technology, 1408 01:15:59,633 --> 01:16:02,633 and how it's not as infallible as we'd like to think. 1409 01:16:03,300 --> 01:16:05,350 I don't believe that we as a human race, 1410 01:16:05,433 --> 01:16:08,433 learn from our mistakes. We don't learn from history. 1411 01:16:09,300 --> 01:16:10,217 Every 100 years, 1412 01:16:10,300 --> 01:16:12,783 we'll have exactly the same type of situation. 1413 01:16:12,866 --> 01:16:15,866 And it'll be someone else raising the alarm. 1414 01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:20,000 That people all over the planet could experience the same events 1415 01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:21,550 at the same time, 1416 01:16:21,633 --> 01:16:23,350 would have been impossible for anyone 1417 01:16:23,433 --> 01:16:26,433 to imagine 1,000 years ago, even 100. 1418 01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:28,750 Yet the growing interconnectedness 1419 01:16:28,833 --> 01:16:31,583 of the world today, thanks to a global economy 1420 01:16:31,666 --> 01:16:33,817 and technologies like the internet, 1421 01:16:33,900 --> 01:16:36,900 is more than just a mark of how far we've come, 1422 01:16:37,300 --> 01:16:40,300 it's the key to understanding where we're going. 1423 01:16:42,966 --> 01:16:44,650 When you talk about the millennium, 1424 01:16:44,733 --> 01:16:46,717 you sure mean something different than most of us. 1425 01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,800 Well, a millennium is such a small slice of time 1426 01:16:50,566 --> 01:16:52,383 in the spectrum of the universe. 1427 01:16:52,466 --> 01:16:54,250 We've got the big bang 1428 01:16:54,333 --> 01:16:56,517 happening 13 billion years ago, 1429 01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,050 you know, what's 1,000 years between friends? 1430 01:16:59,133 --> 01:17:00,117 The timeline that we create 1431 01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,183 is about the length of a football field. 1432 01:17:02,266 --> 01:17:03,683 The thickness of hair, 1433 01:17:03,766 --> 01:17:05,250 on the sheet that you're holding up, 1434 01:17:05,333 --> 01:17:08,017 represents all of cultural history 1435 01:17:08,100 --> 01:17:11,100 of human beings on Earth. 1436 01:17:13,866 --> 01:17:15,750 Instead of the world ending, 1437 01:17:15,833 --> 01:17:18,617 it's going to kind of begin all over again, 1438 01:17:18,700 --> 01:17:20,617 but not literally. 1439 01:17:20,700 --> 01:17:23,700 Not like another big bang or whatever caused the universe. 1440 01:17:26,266 --> 01:17:28,250 But like... 1441 01:17:28,333 --> 01:17:31,317 I think it's gonna be like a fresh start for everybody 1442 01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:33,617 to try and get along. 1443 01:17:33,700 --> 01:17:36,700 We're gonna start to dive into the... 1444 01:17:38,100 --> 01:17:41,100 to dive into the world of technology and... 1445 01:17:43,300 --> 01:17:44,950 try to survive there. 1446 01:17:45,033 --> 01:17:47,817 If we keep digging and using all this oil, 1447 01:17:47,900 --> 01:17:49,417 plastic, et cetera, et cetera, 1448 01:17:49,500 --> 01:17:52,383 I mean, how far are these supplies gonna go? 1449 01:17:52,466 --> 01:17:54,983 You can't assure that they'll be here forever. 1450 01:17:55,066 --> 01:17:57,483 Think of us... 1451 01:17:57,566 --> 01:18:00,117 as a midpoint... 1452 01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:03,200 between no tolerance... 1453 01:18:04,500 --> 01:18:07,500 and between very... 1454 01:18:08,033 --> 01:18:09,550 loving everyone. 1455 01:18:09,633 --> 01:18:12,633 This hasn't been a great century. 1456 01:18:13,633 --> 01:18:16,633 Fix the world, don't screw it up. 111894

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