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We have parents starving
to feed their children.
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Enough is enough!
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Salmon farming is a fucking
environmental catastrophe.
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Throughout this series,
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we've been following a team
of international activists.
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We have to speak out.
You have to use your voice,
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you have to be courageous,
and you have to be brave.
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Nobody should be
abandoned to die.
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We can save many lives
if we act.
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Not through hatred,
violence, or division.
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Our team have
traveled the world
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to inspire the work
of local campaigners...
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Now we face
a threat of extinction
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of everything we know and love.
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...who've been coming
together to make their voices
heard.
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The laws that are being put out
now, it's purely out of hatred.
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Stand up! Fight back!
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But real change only happens
if we all work together.
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If we don't stand together,
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we cannot have
this country we want.
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Do not think
this will not affect you.
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So now it's your turn
to find out
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how we can all get involved.
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What are the moments
that have politicized you?
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I feel, like,
this deep fire inside me.
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How can I contribute
to solving this problem?
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Here are the Changemakers's
five key principles
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so that you too
can make a difference.
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Whether white, whether Black,
we all have to team up.
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Y'all ready? Y'all ready?
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Stand up, fight back!
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With so much injustice
in the world today,
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how do you know where to
start?
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For me, what got me outraged,
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which was my key to activism,
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was just knowing that
people are literally drowning
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in the Mediterranean
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because of policies
that are happening in my name.
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That is an outrage,
and that is not okay.
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And so the one way that
I can challenge that
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is by being an activist
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and going to volunteer
to try and help them.
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In my line of work
in search and rescue--
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'Cause, I mean,
I'm not sure I told you this,
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I'm facing imprisonment.
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I have a trial coming up
in January.
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- You are lying?
- No, no, I'm telling you.
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This is why I've been
invited to be here,
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'cause I have experience
in activism as well.
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And...
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I face 20 years imprisonment
for search and rescue work
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that I did
in the Mediterranean Sea.
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I'm getting emotional
at the fact that...
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you've sacrificed yourself
for something that is right.
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When is our fight going to
stop?
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My work into activism
started similar to Séan.
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Number one, because I was
being directly impacted.
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Number two, because the people
around me were being impacted
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in ways that were causing them
to want to hurt themselves.
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And even as a 21-year-old,
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I thought that
that was bullshit.
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Yeah, I think lived experience
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is not necessarily a condition,
in my view.
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But it helps that, in a way,
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that you can relate to
those people a little bit more.
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Are there experiences from
your own life that you can
draw on?
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For Oleg in Lithuania,
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it's something deeply
personal that's inspired his
activism.
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I tried to kill myself. It was
maybe seven, eight years ago.
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My-- my main feeling was guilt.
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After that,
you are feeling, thinking,
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"Okay,
if my life started like this,
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"it's going to be
worse and worse,
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"so maybe I just
need to kill myself."
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How is that you became
what you're doing now?
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I just ask for help,
for professionals,
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and I started-- I quit
drinking, quit for five years.
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Did you make, like--
You did this call for help?
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Yeah, I call for help, 'cause
I'm in the very bad situation.
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I don't want to be here.
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I want to fix my mistakes, and
I-- I fixing it. I'm doing
this.
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I'm realizing that
he's such a great activist
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because he didn't plan to be.
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He's, like, putting at the
service of others his process,
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and in that-- in that
intention,
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he's also healing himself.
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My activism started
as grassroot,
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when I was living in Chester
and talking to the local
community.
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So I resonate very much with
the people who start in
grassroot,
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and I think that's how
you can create an impact.
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It is so important to not think
that activism
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is something that
happens over there.
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Activism happens in my
community with my neighbors.
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We can all do something.
We all should do something.
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In London, it's the
local community themselves
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who have set up food banks
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to help each other during
the cost of living crisis.
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What's your name, lovely?
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- Brianna.
- Brianna.
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Okay,
so one adult, three children.
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The cost of living is high.
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If they've already
got a hot meal here,
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then they don't need to think
about whether they're gonna eat
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or whether they're gonna top
up.
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Right now everyone's poor,
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regardless of whether
you're working or not.
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Do you understand
what I'm saying?
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So everyone is
going through a crisis.
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Even myself.
I go through it myself.
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I volunteer here
when I use here.
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It's really important, I think,
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that we match our activism
to our skill set.
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I, for example, am not a
doctor, and so I shouldn't be
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volunteering in a clinic
to help patients.
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What I can do is I can work
at the shoreline and out at sea
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because I am
a trained rescue diver.
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The way I approach work is
actually from a position that
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I want to learn, understand the
people, understand the problem.
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And then once I've
learned enough, then I see,
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is there anything I can bring?
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There are various factors
that play on my mind.
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I'm a male, I'm not Black,
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going into this Black
community, Black women's world.
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So I'm very much aware of that.
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But I think there are
ways I can help.
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Waheed thinks his experience
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may be able to help Jamarah
expand her networks
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supporting expectant
Black and brown mothers.
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My main interest
is telemedicine.
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So my technological platforms
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can really help
somebody like Jamarah.
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- How are you?
- More relaxed today.
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I was just saying
this morning to the team
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when we were doing our debrief,
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I said, "I'm gonna
have to really think about
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"how we're gonna be
sustainable, because it takes
so much."
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I was thinking
about your expansion
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in terms of the follow-up of
the clients that you'll be
seeing.
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- Mm-hmm. - And in my head, I
thought that
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it would be amazing
if you used a video call.
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You could really
filter the clients.
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These are the ones we follow up
through telehealth.
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- Yeah.
- And the other ones who
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need to be seen,
instead of going all the way
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to the community for
the second or third visit.
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- I love it.
- You love it?
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I love it. It's brilliant.
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Well, I'm glad that
we found our partnership.
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- Yeah!
- Whoo! Did it.
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Waheed's suggestion
just made total sense.
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It's a way to bring in
collaborative providers,
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such as physicians,
mental health providers,
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and I think building more
infrastructure and capacity
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behind that telehealth
aspect of our work
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would make everything more
sustainable and accessible.
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- Bye, Jamarah.
- Take care!
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Regardless of
who's collaborating,
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you look for ways how you
connect with each other
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as human beings, and then
you complement your strengths.
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So I can bring my strengths
in terms of innovation,
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in terms of how to scale
an organization from grassroot
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to make it national and global.
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But I'm not coming with that
those preconceptions.
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That's the wrong attitude.
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What I don't want people to
walk away is thinking that
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you have to be directly
impacted by something to care.
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I think one of the most
important starting points is
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just to know that something is
happening, and I think this is
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often one of the biggest
challenges, to know that
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something is happening and then
see your own role within that,
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and to feel confident
that you can do something.
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Finding your purpose
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is the first step to
challenging injustice.
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Lived experience and working
within your own community
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aren't essential, but could
be a helpful starting point
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to making a difference.
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We are always--
as activists, are at the risk
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of talking within each other.
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Getting out of the box is,
like, a real challenge for
activists
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in order to reach
a more general public.
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Once you've found your
purpose,
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what are the most effective
ways to raise awareness?
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We're gonna have a lot of
people going hungry this
winter.
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These people will die.
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But don't walk past here
with your noses up.
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We collect food every day,
every night,
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seven days a week, voluntarily.
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I think the idea of trying to
stand out as a campaign
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is an important one
to make sure that we are heard
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and that our important message
is being received.
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Jean is trying to
generate support
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for her campaign to oppose
the multi-billion pound
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Scottish salmon
farming industry.
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I think for Jean's campaign
to be successful,
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we need that "Get Brexit Done"
style phrase
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that people can immediately go,
"I understand what you mean."
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Okay. Who wants to know about
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the Great Scottish
Salmon Scandal?
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You can get
all the information here.
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We're willing to share.
Thank you very much.
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I-- I don't think
I'll be eating that.
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Did you know that those farmed
salmon, about one in four,
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25%, die before they
ever make it to the plate?
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- Yeah. - Oh, that's-- that's
atrocious.
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Gone better than I expected,
actually.
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They've been shocked about what
the salmon farming industry
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does here in Scotland, and
that's what we wanted to do.
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This is what we learned
previously, is that we weren't
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reaching out to the-- to the
wider public about this issue,
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that we weren't using the
kind of shocking or disgusting
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or fear-inducing imagery
and narratives,
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and that's what we're
trying to do here today,
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and it's clearly
proved effective.
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I think some of my strongest
pieces of media or output
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are the memes that I make
that try to make light of
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or understand
a situation through humor
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while still drawing
attention to something
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that's really,
frankly, depressing.
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I think that's important
because it's a way of making
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the entry barrier to having
a conversation that bit easier.
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In the age of social media,
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getting your message out
has never been easier.
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I don't understand why
French people are so mad
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at the pensions reform when
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I have to work
until 67, 70, or more.
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Well, don't worry. I'm here
to explain everything to you.
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I think what we're
seeing is that this era
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and this millennium
of young people
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are really not
fucking having it.
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We have things
like social media.
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We have TikTok, where people
are actually understanding
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political issues
in less than two minutes.
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Trigger warning.
Guys, trigger warning.
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If you don't like
horrific stories, go, now.
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They used a double-sided razor,
right?
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And she cut...
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her clitoris.
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She cut her labia minora.
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And she cut her labia majora.
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But that is female
genital mutilation.
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I think the next plan
would be for you talk about
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- this holiday on camera.
- Yeah.
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And I would love to
put it on social media.
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- So what do you think?
- Yeah. I think so.
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I think we should tag everyone.
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Haya and Waheed know that
making this video could be
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crucial in attracting
attention to their campaign
in Denmark.
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Okay.
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So, hello, everyone.
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If you're looking to
a new holiday,
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I have a special experience,
if you would like to try it.
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The Danish government
is offering
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an all-inclusive, indefinite
stay at Kaershovedgaård.
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If you're asking
what is Kaershovedgaård,
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it's basically
a deportation center.
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If you need to escape conflict,
persecution, or torture,
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you have to be very careful,
because we have
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some terms and condition
you need to be aware about.
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There is no ledger, no future,
no routines, no cooking,
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no place for religious
practice.
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The dream holiday
in Kaershovedgaård.
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We would like to invite
everyone
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to come and see
the conditions by themselves
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and see if they can
live in such places.
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If you wanna know more, please
contact the Danish government.
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- Thank you a lot.
- Bang on.
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If you can get a video right,
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then you have
a chance to reach out
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to half a million,
one million people
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through one short video,
which grabs their attention.
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But it is important, I think,
to be able to resonate
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or appeal to people directly,
in person.
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Social media can target
a large audience,
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but appealing
to people face-to-face
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can humanize your message.
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Hey, you guys! I would like
to stop you in your tracks
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for a sec if you're--
We wanna tell you about this,
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- or are you good?
- No, thanks.
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- Okay, you're good.
- Y'all have a nice one.
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DaQuon and Zuriel are
trying to gather support
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for their campaign against
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the new anti-trans bills
in Alabama.
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Um, so my name's DaQuon.
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I'm a Prep Navigator
for TKO Society.
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- What is it?
- A one-pager about
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the anti-trans legislation that
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went into effect
earlier this year.
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As I grew up,
where I'm, like, 38 years old,
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so I grew up
in the, like, '90s for real.
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I don't know if I can fully
support what you're saying,
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'cause I think it's a slippery
slope, in my opinion.
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That's probably why
I wouldn't support,
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you know what I'm saying?
If that makes sense.
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It's not rhetoric that
we haven't heard before.
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Because of, you know,
how he grew up or whatever,
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he's very resistant.
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- It's okay.
- I'm just like, well, okay.
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And they will, but they heard
you, and they can remember
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what you said,
even if they don't like it.
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And that means
we're generating conversation.
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- Exactly.
- Right.
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That's how change happens.
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Hey, y'all.
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You actually have to speak out.
You have to use your voice,
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you have to be courageous,
and you have to be brave
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in order to shift anything,
because if you don't do that,
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if nothing is interrupted,
right, nothing will change.
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A lot of people forget, like,
you know, gender-affirming care
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is healthcare,
and it's life-saving.
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We already, as a community,
have higher rates of, like,
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depression and anxiety, so
without gender-affirming care,
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those rates are
going to rise, you know?
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- I'm not educated enough--
- Right.
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Um, so I'm gonna go home
and tell my family about this.
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Would you like a candy cane?
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Sure. Thank you.
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- You have a nice one.
- Change will happen.
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- Exactly.
- It's gonna happen.
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And I wish you guys
the best of luck.
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I'll definitely be sure
to check y'all out.
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The bills aren't
being passed by, like,
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the people that it's
gonna effect.
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I think everybody should be
treated equally. I always have.
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- Bye-bye.
- All right,
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you have a nice one.
Thank you for listening.
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How do we inspire middle-class
white from big cities
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who are those that needs to
mobilize
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in terms of gathering the mass
mobilization numbers we need?
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Activists often talk about
changing the world,
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but what is the world
but a collection of people,
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of groups,
of the environment, of animals?
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And if we aren't able to
bring all those on board,
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then we don't get
to change the world,
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because the change only happens
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when the people in the world
and everything in it change.
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How can you best gather
support for your cause?
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What method of communication
will be most effective?
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Choosing how to
broadcast your message
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is crucial for your campaign.
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When I work with communities
and local activists
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and small organizations,
that is where the power is.
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None of our Changemakers
work alone.
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You can be more impactful
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if you connect with
other activists.
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If you're organizing alone,
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then you're not an organizer,
right? You're not an activist.
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If our activism is not
connected, right,
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across borders
and across spaces,
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then we actually,
like, won't win.
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In Ghana, the local fishermen
know that global action
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is needed in order to address
the plastic problem
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that their community
is dealing with.
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Okay.
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Which is very, very bad.
Which is very, very bad.
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- Come on.
- Pull up.
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Plastics!
Instead of fish, plastics!
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You can see it.
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- Plastics! Plastics!
- Yeah. No fish.
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- As I tell you, plastics.
- No fish.
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- No fish. Plastics.
- No fish.
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Instead of fish, it's plastics!
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How long has this
been happening?
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For many years.
It, for us, kills us.
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- It's killing us.
- Kill Africans.
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People have to come and help.
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Whether white, whether Black,
we all have to team up and
help.
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I think it's
a collective effort.
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And it's a very long road,
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and the more people
that are standing next to you,
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the easier it is
to stay on that path.
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And I think together,
we can affect change.
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There may be
other groups like yours
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fighting a similar battle.
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Séan and Jean are visiting
another island close by
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who are also opposing
the Scottish salmon industry.
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Catherine and I have--
excuse the emotion,
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but people are quite
passionate about this--
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we have spent,
over the last year,
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living and breathing this
proposed site at East Moclett.
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And I really do feel the power
is amongst the people, you
know?
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And we can make a difference.
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But this is not
just a Papa problem.
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This is a Scotland problem.
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I live on the Isle of Bute,
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and-- and I've been working
with
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anti-open cage fish farmers
for quite a while.
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It's insidious,
and-- and it has to be stopped.
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There has to be a better way.
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Jean clearly understands
the-- the barriers
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and the challenges
we've come up against.
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Hopefully, as communities,
we can all come together,
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because we all
need to come together
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so we're heard
and we're listened to.
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You have to start somewhere.
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You have to start
somewhere small,
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build a team around you,
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add people who are
like-minded to help you.
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People can't do things
on their own.
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I think that the best place
to learn is, like,
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directly in the field,
in a community,
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with folks that are
being directly impacted.
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I think I have a very complex
understanding of what the world
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looks like and what it means
to be a marginalized person,
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and that has helped me
understand what it means
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to be able to support
people where they are.
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Connecting with people who
have experience with the
issues
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you are trying to change
can provide vital support.
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I actually have
a friend named Bronzie.
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She's a legend,
and she's done a lot of work
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for Black queer communities
and building confidence.
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So I think it'll be really
dope to connect them.
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- Bronzie!
- Hey!
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- I'm here with Shawn.
- Come on back, honey.
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- Well, hi, Shawn. How are you?
- She's getting ready.
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Well, all right, baby. Come on,
sit down and talk to me, now.
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What are you
struggling with the most?
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Probably...
with me, it's my look.
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With your look?
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It make me feel down.
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Well,
we don't want you feeling down.
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Have you done
your makeup before?
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A little bit. Basic.
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I've never seen myself made up.
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Well, baby, you're fixin'
to see yourself now.
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We're gonna get you to the
point that you gonna be all
right.
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Just believe me when I say
that.
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All you gotta do is say you can
do it, honey. And you can do
it.
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You can do anything
you put your mind to.
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In life, remember that.
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Carry that with you
everywhere you go.
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You can be happy, honey.
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You can be
anything you wanna be.
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Remember that.
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I gotta get outta Shawn. I
gotta let Lakeisha come out,
chile.
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And that's who came out, chile.
Lakeisha!
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Ladies and gentlemen,
make some noise.
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Let's make some noise.
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Let's give them
a little bit more.
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I'm going to
remember this for a long time.
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My new drag sister,
Miss Lakeisha.
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We welcome
to the LGBTQIA+ family.
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You got a family now, hon.
You have a family.
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I have learned so much
from people
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that I have worked with,
lived with.
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That camaraderie, that
teamwork, knowing that people
are on side
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I find really, really
supportive and fortifying.
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I don't think you can
change the world on your own.
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It has taken me a very
long time to realize it.
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You can find unlikely allies.
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There are different roads
to collaboration.
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I fully agree with that.
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Support might come
from places you don't expect.
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In London, Michelle and Séan
are reaching out
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to a local
Michelin-starred restaurant
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in the hope that they can
help.
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A lot of hackney
is going hungry in essence.
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Obviously Michelle's work in
the community is going to be,
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I think, more difficult
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- as this winter really sets
in. - Yeah.
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If your customers are paying
a bill at the end of the night,
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we'll round it up.
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And we can say it's going to
the Hackney Community Food Hub.
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They might say yeah to that.
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I-- I don't see why
anyone would have an issue.
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What I would love to do
and what I want to do
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is add on a pound to every
bill.
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I can just directly send
that money over every month.
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That little bit there
when it all collates together
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- is gonna be amazing.
- Yeah.
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So that's what
we kind of looking for.
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Well, because, like,
I've lived around here for...
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a very long time, so, like,
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family in the area
and stuff like that.
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So it would mean a lot
to, like, help out.
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So, you know. This is great.
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He's real.
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And he's put his money
where his mouth is.
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- Cheers.
- Oh, yes. I love a hug.
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Thank you so much.
That was good.
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That was good. And I got a hug.
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You got a Michelin star hug
right there.
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Oh, wow.
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When you see successful
revolutions through history,
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they always had this
intersectional component in it.
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It is not enough
to just fight for race.
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It's not enough to
fight just for class, right?
487
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,200
Or gender.
488
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,040
When we actually
are in solidarity,
489
00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:17,800
right, across borders,
is when we're most powerful
490
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,120
and when we're most strong.
491
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,360
I suppose a learning point
for me is that
492
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,240
people can come to an issue
by different roads.
493
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,880
When I was in prison,
I received a letter
494
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,240
from a convent full of nuns
who told me that they were
495
00:24:32,360 --> 00:24:36,440
praying on my behalf every
single day and that they were
496
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,080
getting involved in this topic
based on my imprisonment.
497
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,240
But I never thought that,
you know,
498
00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:45,040
what I should be doing
is going to convents
499
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,800
and speaking to nuns
about this issue
500
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,800
and getting
my petition signed there.
501
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:54,040
The only way to bring about
change is if we work
together.
502
00:24:54,120 --> 00:24:56,320
You can find
allies across borders,
503
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,640
generations, and in
the most unlikely of places.
504
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,960
What makes you radical, right,
is when people understand
505
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,920
the ways that their experiences
as marginalized people
506
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,720
have been created by systems
507
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,720
which makes them
more prone to harm.
508
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,040
And you confront those
systems to make change.
509
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,680
Understanding
the political structure
510
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,600
that enables injustice
511
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,880
is essential when you are
trying to create change.
512
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,760
To my mind,
it is important to understand
513
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,480
what is the context of what
you're trying to achieve.
514
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,760
You gotta understand
how they operate,
515
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,520
how they make decisions.
516
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,320
If we're talking about
planning direct action,
517
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,320
where does the mayor hang out?
518
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,200
Is it recess time in the
summer?
519
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,800
Are people largely gonna be
in some type of assembly?
520
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,280
How do we have contact
with those folks?
521
00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:48,360
So it is about
being willing to do work.
522
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,120
When I was with
Michelle at the food hub,
523
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,040
something that a lot of people
who use the food hub mentioned
524
00:25:55,120 --> 00:25:59,760
is that the culprit, the person
at fault are the policy makers.
525
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,760
And I think that's true.
526
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:06,240
But strangely, a person like
that can also be the helper.
527
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,120
And it's interesting
that people can occupy
528
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,760
those two spaces
at the same time.
529
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:17,600
Nice to meet you.
530
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,320
What's happening is
that volunteers are tired, Joe.
531
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,040
- Yeah.
- Okay? They're exhausted.
532
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,920
So they've not got paid,
they've been affected
533
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,360
by the cost of living as well.
534
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,600
We need money to help
the volunteers
535
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,440
with their mental health
because again,
536
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,560
when we're serving
the clients and the public,
537
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,120
the horror stories
that we get coming in,
538
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,920
we're women and we're human
and we're empathetic
539
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,440
and we can't just say, "Here's
your food bag and goodbye."
540
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,200
We take on that.
And so it affects us as well.
541
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,120
So unless you give us that,
542
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,200
then we are not gonna be able
to provide the service
543
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,160
that we've been providing, and
then what you guys gonna do?
544
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:51,600
'Cause you guys
are gonna just leave it.
545
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,240
Well, I mean
there's grants available
546
00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:55,000
from the council,
but it can't do everything
547
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,440
and we haven't got
infinite money either.
548
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,000
So it's really got to be
partnership driven.
549
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,680
- It's got to be--
- Partnership driven
550
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,040
where you guys
get paid and we don't.
551
00:27:04,120 --> 00:27:05,960
At the end of the day,
it's not our responsibility
552
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,280
to care for the community.
We've decided to take it on.
553
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,120
It's the council's
responsibility.
554
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,400
I would love to have
one of the councilors
555
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,720
in one of our hubs
serving our clients.
556
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,720
'Cause the clients would like
to see a member of their
council
557
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,400
in the same spot that
they're in and not up there.
558
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,400
'Cause that's what
we're doing right about now.
559
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,640
You guys are up here and we're
down here and we're struggling
560
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,760
and we're suffering and we just
need you guys to meet us here
561
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,800
so that we know that
you're in this fight with us.
562
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,320
We're fighting by ourselves
right about now, Joe.
563
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,320
Something that Michelle
has continuously said is that
564
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,960
she has felt marginalized
or ignored by politicians.
565
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,120
- Great.
- Can you cook?
566
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,200
I can cook.
567
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,680
So having a Hackney local
counselor come down and speak
568
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,480
and listen to her has been
really fortifying I think.
569
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:48,560
We can do this together.
570
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,560
All right. Thank you so much.
571
00:27:52,360 --> 00:27:54,760
I think activists and
advocates,
572
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,400
they have got different ways
of working.
573
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,800
Some are completely
opposing politicians
574
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,920
but there are others
who take a different route.
575
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,640
For me, even though a lot
of the times I disagree
576
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,280
with the leader or the
minister, I continue to work
577
00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:13,480
with regional governments,
with local authorities
578
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,680
to make life better
for immigrants and refugees.
579
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,760
I think that's
a fairly controversial point
580
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,880
and I wonder if even,
you know, folks in this panel
581
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,760
would have
different views on this.
582
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,960
Decision makers
and people in power
583
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,920
may not always be
receptive to change.
584
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,200
But depending on your
campaign,
585
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,200
it might still be worth
trying to get them to engage.
586
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:43,000
Tavish, you have lost
this year over 25% of salmon.
587
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,880
That's an extraordinary number.
588
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:50,240
So what's the answer to losing
that amount of salmon?
589
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,000
We don't want any losses.
590
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,000
Why would any business
want any losses?
591
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,920
And when you operate in the
sea,
592
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,920
then you have all the naturally
occurring organisms
593
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,240
that live in the sea
and that can affect our fish.
594
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,600
These very small micro
jellyfish that affect the fish
gills.
595
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,080
So spent an inordinate
amount of money and time
596
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,360
on better science, on
veterinary advice to reduce
those losses.
597
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:13,960
Come on. Come on. You know--
598
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,560
Well, I could say
come on to you.
599
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,000
I'm not sure
your arguments stack up
600
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,600
to any kind
of proper assessment.
601
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,360
Should we then
focus on antibiotics?
602
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,240
I know this is brought up
as a comparison
603
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,320
that different
to terrestrial farming,
604
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,200
sea farming has an increased
use of antibiotics,
605
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,520
whereas the others
have a decline in it.
606
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,920
Well, first of all,
we publish antibiotic figures.
607
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,480
The other sectors
don't publish them.
608
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,240
So with great respect,
you can't say
609
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,920
they're going up or down
because no one knows.
610
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,800
You can refer to
the research done on this.
611
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,760
No, but government
doesn't collect statistics
612
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,560
from any terrestrial farming.
613
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,600
Any antibiotic we use,
and it's a very small use
614
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,400
compared to
terrestrial land farming.
615
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,440
How can you know that if you
don't-- if the terrestrial--
616
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,440
That's why
I'm referring to the numbers
617
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,080
you-- we just see published.
618
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:58,600
- But I--
- So you agree that--
619
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,360
- so you also refer to figures?
- No.
620
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,080
How does that link
with your previous arguments?
621
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,880
- Sorry, I don't understand.
- Well, the only figures
622
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,080
I can go on is those that
you've just referred to.
623
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,680
That indicate that they have--
624
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,240
Because you people--
because you attack us.
625
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:11,520
Who's you people, I'm sorry?
626
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,040
Some I think believe
and would say that
627
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,360
it's really important to engage
with any possible stakeholder
628
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,000
because any possible
stakeholder is a potential
ally.
629
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:26,320
And others, I think, would say
that there is no point
engaging,
630
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:31,080
no point being part of a system
that is ultimately the problem.
631
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,440
And you have
to fight from the outside.
632
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,000
Culture has to shift in order
for policy to change.
633
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,560
People's attitudes,
perceptions and behavior
634
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,320
they have to change
to inform elected officials.
635
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,800
So organizing work
and activism work,
636
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,960
literally all
of our lives depend on it.
637
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,120
When the people in power
don't listen,
638
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,400
there are other ways you can
change people's minds.
639
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,880
I believe in direct action
because it works.
640
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,040
And I'm a big fan of history.
641
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,800
And when we study
the big successes in the world
642
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,680
in order to gain rights,
643
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,360
direct action
has been always there.
644
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,520
So the risk of participating
in any direct action, right,
645
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,640
or any activism,
of course, is violence.
646
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,880
Direct action means to
intervene in business as usual.
647
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,760
So I'm excited.
648
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,520
But of course
I'm always concerned
649
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,600
because people are literally
putting their bodies
650
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,520
on the line,
you are making a risk.
651
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,000
And it is a risk
that you are willing to take.
652
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,880
And it's important that
you know the potential outcomes
653
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,640
and typically,
you should be prepared.
654
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,000
Social media can be
a great source of information
655
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,440
if you're preparing
for direct action.
656
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,880
Come with me to get arrested
on Capitol Hill
657
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,320
for abortion access.
658
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,280
In any act
of civil disobedience,
659
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,840
there is always risk, but risk
is not always shared equally.
660
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,240
We have to think about
our identities, our race,
661
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,880
our class,
our documentation status,
662
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,640
and make the decision
that's right for us.
663
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,560
Ultimately, I decided risking
arrest was right for me.
664
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,080
I had the privilege to do it.
665
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,120
I was arrested
about half an hour in,
666
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,640
but our last protester
was out there holding
667
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,280
the intersection
for about an hour.
668
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:26,560
I still face
two decades imprisonment.
669
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,760
We're trying to criminalize
search and rescue.
670
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,760
This experience has
made me much more active,
671
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,240
much angrier,
and at the same time,
672
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,120
it's also, I think, made my
activism a bit more cautious.
673
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,280
And so I think
my worldview or the things
674
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,920
that I am willing to do
are specific to my context.
675
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:51,800
A specific and very
important role on direct action
676
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:56,120
is taking care of the people
who are putting at risk.
677
00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:01,000
There is no point
on every of us blocking roads.
678
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:05,240
At the same time, we need
to understand that we all have
679
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:10,240
different qualities and gifts
to put at the service of the
cost.
680
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,600
The folks that, like,
largely have kept us fed
681
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,760
and have largely
kept us clothed,
682
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,760
kept us hydrated, right, in the
middle of direct actions.
683
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,720
The people that are
providing the support,
684
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,440
there's a role for everyone
in our movements.
685
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,520
Is it best for your cause
686
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,520
to work within or outside
the political system?
687
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,920
Either way,
knowing how the system works
688
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,400
is key to creating change.
689
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,080
Remember that some types
of direct action
690
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,480
can be a powerful tool for
change, but it is important
691
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,760
to always stay on
the right side of the law.
692
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,920
At this point,
I believe that mental health
693
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,720
is behind many
of the problems we have.
694
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,760
If we are not healthy
in a complete way,
695
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,400
how can we fight
against oppression?
696
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:05,800
And mental health is like in
the very basis of the crisis.
697
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,840
Activism can sometimes be
hard,
698
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,760
so looking after yourself
should be a priority.
699
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,080
There were times
that actually I was on a verge
700
00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:20,120
of another breakdown,
actually doing the work
701
00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:21,679
that I'm doing and I realized
702
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,320
that I couldn't handle it
any longer.
703
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,239
My colleagues told me
and my wife actually
704
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:29,960
pointed that to me as well.
705
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,159
I had to take
a little bit of time,
706
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,080
reflect on things,
and develop systems.
707
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,560
In London, Michelle is
starting
708
00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:42,040
to feel the strain of
running the food hub.
709
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,639
- Hiya, Séan.
- Good morning. How are you?
710
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,880
We've got some issues
going on right about now.
711
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,480
I'm beginning
to think to myself,
712
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,120
maybe I should stop
because the government
713
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,120
are just thinking
it's quite easy just to keep
714
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:56,239
putting the pressure on
Michelle and other people like
myself.
715
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,120
It just doesn't
seem sustainable, right?
716
00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:02,720
The separation between work,
the hub, and your home
717
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,320
is-- I mean, there's no
separation really, is there?
718
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:06,720
No.
719
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,880
Michelle is a mother of four
720
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,880
and uses her family home
721
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,240
to store
excess food for the hub.
722
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:14,520
Is this your living room?
723
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,440
But where do you switch off?
724
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,760
Where are you just
Michelle and just relaxing
725
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,400
and where are you at home?
726
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,160
It seems like you're not sure
if you can keep going.
727
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,440
And what does that mean
for people who need that food?
728
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,320
They'll die. And I say that
with conviction. They will die.
729
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,160
It's so wonderful that Michelle
has this food hub,
730
00:35:43,240 --> 00:35:46,520
but unfortunately,
the need for it has grown
731
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,440
so much that it's expanded
to every aspect of her life.
732
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,800
I think
that's an important point.
733
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,280
I felt the weight
and through working,
734
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,200
for example, with migrants
or people suffering
735
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,000
from mental health traumas,
there are many moments
736
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,520
that I've actually felt
the trauma myself in some way.
737
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,560
Or-- and that is actually,
in a way, a double-edged sword.
738
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:13,160
I'm still struggling to find
that balance to really
identify,
739
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,320
you know,
how far I can go or I can't go.
740
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,040
I was hearing Waheed and
I kept thinking how important
741
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,480
it is to know our own
boundaries in terms of not
burning out
742
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,480
in your fifth day of activism,
743
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,800
but also how crucial is
744
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,320
to have
other shoulders to lean on
745
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,400
when you are not recognizing
746
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,720
that you are, like,
burning out yourself.
747
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,320
If you do start to
feel burnt out,
748
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,720
sharing your experience
with a friend
749
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,920
or support group can help.
750
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,240
Most organizations
that you learn of,
751
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,240
they're formed because
comrades have become family.
752
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,000
And oftentimes the folks
who you're fighting alongside
753
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:57,800
are your family
and those are the people
754
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,560
that you're
counting on to survive.
755
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,040
Hi.
756
00:37:04,240 --> 00:37:06,040
- Hi, Jamarah.
- Hey.
757
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,520
- So lovely to see you.
- I'm cold.
758
00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:13,600
Usually, we do these groups
just to encourage bonding
759
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,000
and sharing of stories.
760
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,560
So people will talk about
their experiences of pregnancy
761
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,200
and giving birth, some
challenges they may have faced,
762
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,240
fears, and then talk about
the future, what they envision.
763
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,760
All right, y'all. Welcome.
764
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,680
Tam, Anna,
and Carmen all of you have had,
765
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,800
and myself too,
hospital birth experiences.
766
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,840
Carmen,
did you wanna share a story?
767
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:45,120
Sure. Every hospital birth
I had, it was chaotic.
768
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:49,200
Not much was explained to me,
especially with my first.
769
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,520
I was told when I was in triage
770
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,360
to shut up
because I was screaming.
771
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,840
It was my first baby,
so I didn't understand.
772
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,400
Yeah, unfortunately.
773
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,760
So it gave me
that trauma of being told
774
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,960
to shut up when
I went for my next one.
775
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,240
And that's my experience.
776
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,200
I think that's one thing
that activists need to do,
777
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,680
actually, is to try and seek
the kind of emotional support
778
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,880
and the openness to talking
about their feelings.
779
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,440
And it's something
that I struggle with.
780
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:22,240
I have a great
network of support.
781
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,880
My family, my friends,
and that helps a lot.
782
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,320
The network,
the entrenched network
783
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,520
of people supporting
activists in general,
784
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,760
I think it's crucial
not to burn out specifically.
785
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,440
It is our chosen family who
understands our experiences.
786
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,000
It our chosen family
who listens,
787
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,840
who feeds, who clothes us.
788
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,560
And is largely our chosen
family who keeps us alive.
789
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,760
Creating bonds
and supporting each other
790
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,360
can be one of the most
special aspects of activism.
791
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,680
And it's important to
celebrate your progress
together
792
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,360
in order to stay in it
for the long haul.
793
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,160
I think we tend to think
of social change
794
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,320
as happening or hoping
it happens overnight.
795
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,560
And, of course, it doesn't.
It's a long, long road
796
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,440
and so we need to take pit
stops
797
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,040
and enjoy
the small successes we have.
798
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,920
So all those small wins
are part of a bigger win.
799
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,800
I agree
with what Séan just said.
800
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,680
I think remembering
small wins is really crucial.
801
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,680
That's how our reward system
and the brain works as well.
802
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,960
And that's where
the dopamine release happens.
803
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,680
You need that cortisol,
that excitement.
804
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,360
You need to remember
what it felt like
805
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,200
to be there, to see that,
right, to continue.
806
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,840
Activism is not
always being, like, angry
807
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,360
and shouting at each other.
808
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,040
And it's a very optimistic
path.
809
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,720
I mean, I feel more alive than
ever since I do these things.
810
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,800
We're raising a glass to
the Black mamas of Overtown.
811
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,000
This is the birthplace
of Birth Justice.
812
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,840
So when you see
Birth Justice out there
813
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,240
getting the glow up,
just know where the roots are.
814
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,520
They're planted right here
in Miami with all of you
815
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:07,640
amazing Black doulas,
midwives, doctors, activists.
816
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,920
We deserve to have our lives.
817
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,360
We deserve to have
sacredness in our births.
818
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,800
We deserve to have
consensual pregnancies
819
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,720
and we deserve to have
the support that we need.
820
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,720
And that's what this
represents. So thank you,
everyone.
821
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,800
I'm toasting. I'm toasting.
822
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:26,400
Pour it up, pour it up.
823
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,240
I remember when I was
volunteering a lot
824
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:39,040
and one person who left sent me
a message saying
825
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,000
they can't enjoy themselves
because they feel so much guilt
826
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,440
that they have such privileges
and others they've helped
don't.
827
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,400
To my mind,
that's the wrong attitude.
828
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,640
Helping doesn't have
to mean that you suffer
829
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,840
or to place yourself
as a victim.
830
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,760
The important thing is that
831
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,880
we're in it for the long haul.
832
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,800
By finding support networks
and looking after yourself,
833
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,800
you can make sure your
journey into activism is
sustainable.
834
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,640
Remember that change
starts with all of us,
835
00:41:13,720 --> 00:41:16,000
however big or small.
836
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,520
Activism in my view
has various shapes and forms,
837
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,000
but I think we have
to really simplify things.
838
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:26,640
If there is an injustice
and if there is an equality,
839
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,760
anybody can get involved
to make a difference.
840
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,520
Whether you use your hands,
your skills,
841
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:38,240
you use your advocacy, talking,
or whether you have innovation.
842
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,080
Basically, all you're doing
843
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,120
is you are making life better
for other people.
844
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,680
I think saying
that one is born an activist
845
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,160
is a bit of a cliche.
846
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:50,480
We all have to do something.
847
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,080
Society is about activism.
848
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,480
Society is about helping people
849
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,280
and we can't just sit back
850
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,200
and watch
some people do that work.
851
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,160
Anybody can
and should be an activist.
852
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,120
Activists are important because
853
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,160
we want to live in a society
that is just,
854
00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:08,520
we want to live
in an environment
855
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,320
that hasn't been destroyed.
856
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,320
We want to live in a world
where peace and equity
857
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:18,400
are everywhere,
and that is how we get there.
858
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,040
Because if you
don't do anything,
859
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,320
then simply what has happened
will continue.
860
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,240
Thank you.
861
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,360
We have no choice
but to save the world.
862
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,160
We live here.
What else are we going to do?
70633
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