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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,520 --> 00:00:07,520 We have parents starving to feed their children. 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:09,200 Enough is enough! 3 00:00:10,040 --> 00:00:13,160 Salmon farming is a fucking environmental catastrophe. 4 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,640 Throughout this series, 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,240 we've been following a team of international activists. 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,360 We have to speak out. You have to use your voice, 7 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,280 you have to be courageous, and you have to be brave. 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,840 Nobody should be abandoned to die. 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,400 We can save many lives if we act. 10 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,040 Not through hatred, violence, or division. 11 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,800 Our team have traveled the world 12 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,600 to inspire the work of local campaigners... 13 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,640 Now we face a threat of extinction 14 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,040 of everything we know and love. 15 00:00:46,160 --> 00:00:50,600 ...who've been coming together to make their voices heard. 16 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,280 The laws that are being put out now, it's purely out of hatred. 17 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,440 Stand up! Fight back! 18 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,360 But real change only happens if we all work together. 19 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,120 If we don't stand together, 20 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,280 we cannot have this country we want. 21 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,280 Do not think this will not affect you. 22 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,640 So now it's your turn to find out 23 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,720 how we can all get involved. 24 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,400 What are the moments that have politicized you? 25 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,720 I feel, like, this deep fire inside me. 26 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,080 How can I contribute to solving this problem? 27 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,600 Here are the Changemakers's five key principles 28 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,920 so that you too can make a difference. 29 00:01:30,039 --> 00:01:32,960 Whether white, whether Black, we all have to team up. 30 00:01:33,039 --> 00:01:34,240 Y'all ready? Y'all ready? 31 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,880 Stand up, fight back! 32 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:46,479 With so much injustice in the world today, 33 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,200 how do you know where to start? 34 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,960 For me, what got me outraged, 35 00:01:58,039 --> 00:02:00,480 which was my key to activism, 36 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,000 was just knowing that people are literally drowning 37 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:04,880 in the Mediterranean 38 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,600 because of policies that are happening in my name. 39 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,560 That is an outrage, and that is not okay. 40 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,360 And so the one way that I can challenge that 41 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,360 is by being an activist 42 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,000 and going to volunteer to try and help them. 43 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,560 In my line of work in search and rescue-- 44 00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:28,320 'Cause, I mean, I'm not sure I told you this, 45 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,000 I'm facing imprisonment. 46 00:02:30,079 --> 00:02:32,079 I have a trial coming up in January. 47 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:33,880 - You are lying? - No, no, I'm telling you. 48 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,120 This is why I've been invited to be here, 49 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,240 'cause I have experience in activism as well. 50 00:02:39,079 --> 00:02:40,120 And... 51 00:02:41,079 --> 00:02:43,600 I face 20 years imprisonment for search and rescue work 52 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:44,880 that I did in the Mediterranean Sea. 53 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,160 I'm getting emotional at the fact that... 54 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,120 you've sacrificed yourself for something that is right. 55 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,480 When is our fight going to stop? 56 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,640 My work into activism started similar to Séan. 57 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,040 Number one, because I was being directly impacted. 58 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,160 Number two, because the people around me were being impacted 59 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,920 in ways that were causing them to want to hurt themselves. 60 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,920 And even as a 21-year-old, 61 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:16,840 I thought that that was bullshit. 62 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,680 Yeah, I think lived experience 63 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,880 is not necessarily a condition, in my view. 64 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,520 But it helps that, in a way, 65 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,960 that you can relate to those people a little bit more. 66 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,320 Are there experiences from your own life that you can draw on? 67 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,720 For Oleg in Lithuania, 68 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:40,000 it's something deeply personal that's inspired his activism. 69 00:03:40,079 --> 00:03:44,640 I tried to kill myself. It was maybe seven, eight years ago. 70 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,320 My-- my main feeling was guilt. 71 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,240 After that, you are feeling, thinking, 72 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,120 "Okay, if my life started like this, 73 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,079 "it's going to be worse and worse, 74 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,160 "so maybe I just need to kill myself." 75 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:01,080 How is that you became what you're doing now? 76 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,200 I just ask for help, for professionals, 77 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:08,080 and I started-- I quit drinking, quit for five years. 78 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,880 Did you make, like-- You did this call for help? 79 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:16,360 Yeah, I call for help, 'cause I'm in the very bad situation. 80 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,480 I don't want to be here. 81 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:23,400 I want to fix my mistakes, and I-- I fixing it. I'm doing this. 82 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,120 I'm realizing that he's such a great activist 83 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,600 because he didn't plan to be. 84 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,800 He's, like, putting at the service of others his process, 85 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,640 and in that-- in that intention, 86 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,120 he's also healing himself. 87 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,440 My activism started as grassroot, 88 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,920 when I was living in Chester and talking to the local community. 89 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,600 So I resonate very much with the people who start in grassroot, 90 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,120 and I think that's how you can create an impact. 91 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:00,320 It is so important to not think that activism 92 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,680 is something that happens over there. 93 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,960 Activism happens in my community with my neighbors. 94 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,800 We can all do something. We all should do something. 95 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,280 In London, it's the local community themselves 96 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,280 who have set up food banks 97 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,520 to help each other during the cost of living crisis. 98 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,360 What's your name, lovely? 99 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,360 - Brianna. - Brianna. 100 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,440 Okay, so one adult, three children. 101 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,480 The cost of living is high. 102 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,920 If they've already got a hot meal here, 103 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,840 then they don't need to think about whether they're gonna eat 104 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,400 or whether they're gonna top up. 105 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,400 Right now everyone's poor, 106 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,320 regardless of whether you're working or not. 107 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:40,760 Do you understand what I'm saying? 108 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:42,920 So everyone is going through a crisis. 109 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,320 Even myself. I go through it myself. 110 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,840 I volunteer here when I use here. 111 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,000 It's really important, I think, 112 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,000 that we match our activism to our skill set. 113 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,600 I, for example, am not a doctor, and so I shouldn't be 114 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,120 volunteering in a clinic to help patients. 115 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,240 What I can do is I can work at the shoreline and out at sea 116 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,320 because I am a trained rescue diver. 117 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,440 The way I approach work is actually from a position that 118 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:15,520 I want to learn, understand the people, understand the problem. 119 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,040 And then once I've learned enough, then I see, 120 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,360 is there anything I can bring? 121 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,520 There are various factors that play on my mind. 122 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,400 I'm a male, I'm not Black, 123 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,920 going into this Black community, Black women's world. 124 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,920 So I'm very much aware of that. 125 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,680 But I think there are ways I can help. 126 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,000 Waheed thinks his experience 127 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,400 may be able to help Jamarah expand her networks 128 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,960 supporting expectant Black and brown mothers. 129 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,240 My main interest is telemedicine. 130 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,360 So my technological platforms 131 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,320 can really help somebody like Jamarah. 132 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:55,840 - How are you? - More relaxed today. 133 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,400 I was just saying this morning to the team 134 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,160 when we were doing our debrief, 135 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,640 I said, "I'm gonna have to really think about 136 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,760 "how we're gonna be sustainable, because it takes so much." 137 00:07:05,840 --> 00:07:08,320 I was thinking about your expansion 138 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,040 in terms of the follow-up of the clients that you'll be seeing. 139 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,560 - Mm-hmm. - And in my head, I thought that 140 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,120 it would be amazing if you used a video call. 141 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,520 You could really filter the clients. 142 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,200 These are the ones we follow up through telehealth. 143 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,120 - Yeah. - And the other ones who 144 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,440 need to be seen, instead of going all the way 145 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,920 to the community for the second or third visit. 146 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,920 - I love it. - You love it? 147 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,560 I love it. It's brilliant. 148 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,200 Well, I'm glad that we found our partnership. 149 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,440 - Yeah! - Whoo! Did it. 150 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,040 Waheed's suggestion just made total sense. 151 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,520 It's a way to bring in collaborative providers, 152 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,159 such as physicians, mental health providers, 153 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,880 and I think building more infrastructure and capacity 154 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:51,159 behind that telehealth aspect of our work 155 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,040 would make everything more sustainable and accessible. 156 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:56,800 - Bye, Jamarah. - Take care! 157 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,560 Regardless of who's collaborating, 158 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,800 you look for ways how you connect with each other 159 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,000 as human beings, and then you complement your strengths. 160 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,960 So I can bring my strengths in terms of innovation, 161 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,560 in terms of how to scale an organization from grassroot 162 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,960 to make it national and global. 163 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,800 But I'm not coming with that those preconceptions. 164 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,920 That's the wrong attitude. 165 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,160 What I don't want people to walk away is thinking that 166 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,840 you have to be directly impacted by something to care. 167 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,440 I think one of the most important starting points is 168 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,600 just to know that something is happening, and I think this is 169 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,000 often one of the biggest challenges, to know that 170 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,559 something is happening and then see your own role within that, 171 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,240 and to feel confident that you can do something. 172 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,200 Finding your purpose 173 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,200 is the first step to challenging injustice. 174 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,680 Lived experience and working within your own community 175 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,040 aren't essential, but could be a helpful starting point 176 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:56,560 to making a difference. 177 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,120 We are always-- as activists, are at the risk 178 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,200 of talking within each other. 179 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:12,360 Getting out of the box is, like, a real challenge for activists 180 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:17,440 in order to reach a more general public. 181 00:09:17,560 --> 00:09:19,960 Once you've found your purpose, 182 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,560 what are the most effective ways to raise awareness? 183 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,040 We're gonna have a lot of people going hungry this winter. 184 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,520 These people will die. 185 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,320 But don't walk past here with your noses up. 186 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,320 We collect food every day, every night, 187 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,640 seven days a week, voluntarily. 188 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,400 I think the idea of trying to stand out as a campaign 189 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,240 is an important one to make sure that we are heard 190 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,200 and that our important message is being received. 191 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,680 Jean is trying to generate support 192 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,160 for her campaign to oppose the multi-billion pound 193 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,560 Scottish salmon farming industry. 194 00:09:57,680 --> 00:10:00,720 I think for Jean's campaign to be successful, 195 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,920 we need that "Get Brexit Done" style phrase 196 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,240 that people can immediately go, "I understand what you mean." 197 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,280 Okay. Who wants to know about 198 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,360 the Great Scottish Salmon Scandal? 199 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,440 You can get all the information here. 200 00:10:14,560 --> 00:10:17,000 We're willing to share. Thank you very much. 201 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,360 I-- I don't think I'll be eating that. 202 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,640 Did you know that those farmed salmon, about one in four, 203 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,080 25%, die before they ever make it to the plate? 204 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,040 - Yeah. - Oh, that's-- that's atrocious. 205 00:10:31,680 --> 00:10:33,680 Gone better than I expected, actually. 206 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,440 They've been shocked about what the salmon farming industry 207 00:10:37,560 --> 00:10:40,360 does here in Scotland, and that's what we wanted to do. 208 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,000 This is what we learned previously, is that we weren't 209 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:47,160 reaching out to the-- to the wider public about this issue, 210 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,520 that we weren't using the kind of shocking or disgusting 211 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,680 or fear-inducing imagery and narratives, 212 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,560 and that's what we're trying to do here today, 213 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,360 and it's clearly proved effective. 214 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:02,680 I think some of my strongest pieces of media or output 215 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:07,200 are the memes that I make that try to make light of 216 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,160 or understand a situation through humor 217 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:11,840 while still drawing attention to something 218 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,480 that's really, frankly, depressing. 219 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,800 I think that's important because it's a way of making 220 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,760 the entry barrier to having a conversation that bit easier. 221 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,720 In the age of social media, 222 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,440 getting your message out has never been easier. 223 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,840 I don't understand why French people are so mad 224 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:33,400 at the pensions reform when 225 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,400 I have to work until 67, 70, or more. 226 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,960 Well, don't worry. I'm here to explain everything to you. 227 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,360 I think what we're seeing is that this era 228 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,440 and this millennium of young people 229 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,640 are really not fucking having it. 230 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,520 We have things like social media. 231 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,120 We have TikTok, where people are actually understanding 232 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,400 political issues in less than two minutes. 233 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,400 Trigger warning. Guys, trigger warning. 234 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,400 If you don't like horrific stories, go, now. 235 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,080 They used a double-sided razor, right? 236 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,200 And she cut... 237 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,800 her clitoris. 238 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:16,600 She cut her labia minora. 239 00:12:16,680 --> 00:12:19,160 And she cut her labia majora. 240 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,160 But that is female genital mutilation. 241 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,720 I think the next plan would be for you talk about 242 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,960 - this holiday on camera. - Yeah. 243 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:31,960 And I would love to put it on social media. 244 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:33,920 - So what do you think? - Yeah. I think so. 245 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,760 I think we should tag everyone. 246 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,200 Haya and Waheed know that making this video could be 247 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,400 crucial in attracting attention to their campaign in Denmark. 248 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:45,120 Okay. 249 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:47,920 So, hello, everyone. 250 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,920 If you're looking to a new holiday, 251 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,280 I have a special experience, if you would like to try it. 252 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,280 The Danish government is offering 253 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,720 an all-inclusive, indefinite stay at Kaershovedgaård. 254 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,680 If you're asking what is Kaershovedgaård, 255 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,480 it's basically a deportation center. 256 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,080 If you need to escape conflict, persecution, or torture, 257 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:06,880 you have to be very careful, because we have 258 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,920 some terms and condition you need to be aware about. 259 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:12,160 There is no ledger, no future, no routines, no cooking, 260 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:13,720 no place for religious practice. 261 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,000 The dream holiday in Kaershovedgaård. 262 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:17,680 We would like to invite everyone 263 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,600 to come and see the conditions by themselves 264 00:13:19,680 --> 00:13:21,560 and see if they can live in such places. 265 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,600 If you wanna know more, please contact the Danish government. 266 00:13:25,680 --> 00:13:28,240 - Thank you a lot. - Bang on. 267 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,160 If you can get a video right, 268 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,760 then you have a chance to reach out 269 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,680 to half a million, one million people 270 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,360 through one short video, which grabs their attention. 271 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:42,280 But it is important, I think, to be able to resonate 272 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,680 or appeal to people directly, in person. 273 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,120 Social media can target a large audience, 274 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,640 but appealing to people face-to-face 275 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:54,600 can humanize your message. 276 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,760 Hey, you guys! I would like to stop you in your tracks 277 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,360 for a sec if you're-- We wanna tell you about this, 278 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:02,920 - or are you good? - No, thanks. 279 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,760 - Okay, you're good. - Y'all have a nice one. 280 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,760 DaQuon and Zuriel are trying to gather support 281 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,000 for their campaign against 282 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,000 the new anti-trans bills in Alabama. 283 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,760 Um, so my name's DaQuon. 284 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,400 I'm a Prep Navigator for TKO Society. 285 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,000 - What is it? - A one-pager about 286 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:20,600 the anti-trans legislation that 287 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,400 went into effect earlier this year. 288 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,880 As I grew up, where I'm, like, 38 years old, 289 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,520 so I grew up in the, like, '90s for real. 290 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,520 I don't know if I can fully support what you're saying, 291 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,640 'cause I think it's a slippery slope, in my opinion. 292 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,960 That's probably why I wouldn't support, 293 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,040 you know what I'm saying? If that makes sense. 294 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,600 It's not rhetoric that we haven't heard before. 295 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,960 Because of, you know, how he grew up or whatever, 296 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,120 he's very resistant. 297 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,760 - It's okay. - I'm just like, well, okay. 298 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,000 And they will, but they heard you, and they can remember 299 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,720 what you said, even if they don't like it. 300 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,440 And that means we're generating conversation. 301 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:56,760 - Exactly. - Right. 302 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:57,960 That's how change happens. 303 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,200 Hey, y'all. 304 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,760 You actually have to speak out. You have to use your voice, 305 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,760 you have to be courageous, and you have to be brave 306 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,640 in order to shift anything, because if you don't do that, 307 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,160 if nothing is interrupted, right, nothing will change. 308 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,640 A lot of people forget, like, you know, gender-affirming care 309 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,440 is healthcare, and it's life-saving. 310 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:25,280 We already, as a community, have higher rates of, like, 311 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:29,920 depression and anxiety, so without gender-affirming care, 312 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,400 those rates are going to rise, you know? 313 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,800 - I'm not educated enough-- - Right. 314 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,760 Um, so I'm gonna go home and tell my family about this. 315 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:40,240 Would you like a candy cane? 316 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,280 Sure. Thank you. 317 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,600 - You have a nice one. - Change will happen. 318 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,400 - Exactly. - It's gonna happen. 319 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,040 And I wish you guys the best of luck. 320 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:49,600 I'll definitely be sure to check y'all out. 321 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,400 The bills aren't being passed by, like, 322 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,480 the people that it's gonna effect. 323 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,640 I think everybody should be treated equally. I always have. 324 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,240 - Bye-bye. - All right, 325 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,040 you have a nice one. Thank you for listening. 326 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:06,640 How do we inspire middle-class white from big cities 327 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,560 who are those that needs to mobilize 328 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:15,120 in terms of gathering the mass mobilization numbers we need? 329 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,760 Activists often talk about changing the world, 330 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,200 but what is the world but a collection of people, 331 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,680 of groups, of the environment, of animals? 332 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,560 And if we aren't able to bring all those on board, 333 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,160 then we don't get to change the world, 334 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,080 because the change only happens 335 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,000 when the people in the world and everything in it change. 336 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,400 How can you best gather support for your cause? 337 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,120 What method of communication will be most effective? 338 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,400 Choosing how to broadcast your message 339 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,440 is crucial for your campaign. 340 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:57,160 When I work with communities and local activists 341 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:02,440 and small organizations, that is where the power is. 342 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,000 None of our Changemakers work alone. 343 00:17:07,079 --> 00:17:09,480 You can be more impactful 344 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,640 if you connect with other activists. 345 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,800 If you're organizing alone, 346 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,560 then you're not an organizer, right? You're not an activist. 347 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,040 If our activism is not connected, right, 348 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,880 across borders and across spaces, 349 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,960 then we actually, like, won't win. 350 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:28,359 In Ghana, the local fishermen know that global action 351 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,560 is needed in order to address the plastic problem 352 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,680 that their community is dealing with. 353 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:36,240 Okay. 354 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,120 Which is very, very bad. Which is very, very bad. 355 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,120 - Come on. - Pull up. 356 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,960 Plastics! Instead of fish, plastics! 357 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:59,680 You can see it. 358 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,960 - Plastics! Plastics! - Yeah. No fish. 359 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:03,560 - As I tell you, plastics. - No fish. 360 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,080 - No fish. Plastics. - No fish. 361 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,640 Instead of fish, it's plastics! 362 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,560 How long has this been happening? 363 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,760 For many years. It, for us, kills us. 364 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:13,720 - It's killing us. - Kill Africans. 365 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,960 People have to come and help. 366 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,880 Whether white, whether Black, we all have to team up and help. 367 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,240 I think it's a collective effort. 368 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,680 And it's a very long road, 369 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,400 and the more people that are standing next to you, 370 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,080 the easier it is to stay on that path. 371 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,640 And I think together, we can affect change. 372 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,760 There may be other groups like yours 373 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,880 fighting a similar battle. 374 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,680 Séan and Jean are visiting another island close by 375 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,520 who are also opposing the Scottish salmon industry. 376 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,640 Catherine and I have-- excuse the emotion, 377 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,400 but people are quite passionate about this-- 378 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,600 we have spent, over the last year, 379 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,240 living and breathing this proposed site at East Moclett. 380 00:18:58,360 --> 00:19:02,360 And I really do feel the power is amongst the people, you know? 381 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,120 And we can make a difference. 382 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,160 But this is not just a Papa problem. 383 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:07,680 This is a Scotland problem. 384 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,400 I live on the Isle of Bute, 385 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,240 and-- and I've been working with 386 00:19:12,360 --> 00:19:16,080 anti-open cage fish farmers for quite a while. 387 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,200 It's insidious, and-- and it has to be stopped. 388 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,920 There has to be a better way. 389 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,000 Jean clearly understands the-- the barriers 390 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,800 and the challenges we've come up against. 391 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,880 Hopefully, as communities, we can all come together, 392 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,520 because we all need to come together 393 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,320 so we're heard and we're listened to. 394 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:35,760 You have to start somewhere. 395 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,280 You have to start somewhere small, 396 00:19:38,360 --> 00:19:40,600 build a team around you, 397 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,160 add people who are like-minded to help you. 398 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,360 People can't do things on their own. 399 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,680 I think that the best place to learn is, like, 400 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,040 directly in the field, in a community, 401 00:19:54,120 --> 00:19:56,760 with folks that are being directly impacted. 402 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,680 I think I have a very complex understanding of what the world 403 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,920 looks like and what it means to be a marginalized person, 404 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,720 and that has helped me understand what it means 405 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,720 to be able to support people where they are. 406 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,600 Connecting with people who have experience with the issues 407 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,440 you are trying to change can provide vital support. 408 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,880 I actually have a friend named Bronzie. 409 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,960 She's a legend, and she's done a lot of work 410 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,000 for Black queer communities and building confidence. 411 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,560 So I think it'll be really dope to connect them. 412 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,320 - Bronzie! - Hey! 413 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,720 - I'm here with Shawn. - Come on back, honey. 414 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,560 - Well, hi, Shawn. How are you? - She's getting ready. 415 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,960 Well, all right, baby. Come on, sit down and talk to me, now. 416 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,920 What are you struggling with the most? 417 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,240 Probably... with me, it's my look. 418 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:53,760 With your look? 419 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:55,800 It make me feel down. 420 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,600 Well, we don't want you feeling down. 421 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,640 Have you done your makeup before? 422 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,440 A little bit. Basic. 423 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,160 I've never seen myself made up. 424 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,800 Well, baby, you're fixin' to see yourself now. 425 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,000 We're gonna get you to the point that you gonna be all right. 426 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,600 Just believe me when I say that. 427 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,720 All you gotta do is say you can do it, honey. And you can do it. 428 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,880 You can do anything you put your mind to. 429 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,560 In life, remember that. 430 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,120 Carry that with you everywhere you go. 431 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:31,480 You can be happy, honey. 432 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:32,760 You can be anything you wanna be. 433 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,200 Remember that. 434 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,480 I gotta get outta Shawn. I gotta let Lakeisha come out, chile. 435 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,560 And that's who came out, chile. Lakeisha! 436 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,880 Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise. 437 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,520 Let's make some noise. 438 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,120 Let's give them a little bit more. 439 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,080 I'm going to remember this for a long time. 440 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,800 My new drag sister, Miss Lakeisha. 441 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,240 We welcome to the LGBTQIA+ family. 442 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,000 You got a family now, hon. You have a family. 443 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,680 I have learned so much from people 444 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,960 that I have worked with, lived with. 445 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:16,560 That camaraderie, that teamwork, knowing that people are on side 446 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,840 I find really, really supportive and fortifying. 447 00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:23,040 I don't think you can change the world on your own. 448 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,360 It has taken me a very long time to realize it. 449 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,200 You can find unlikely allies. 450 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,080 There are different roads to collaboration. 451 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:32,240 I fully agree with that. 452 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,320 Support might come from places you don't expect. 453 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,600 In London, Michelle and Séan are reaching out 454 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,040 to a local Michelin-starred restaurant 455 00:22:42,120 --> 00:22:44,080 in the hope that they can help. 456 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,960 A lot of hackney is going hungry in essence. 457 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,640 Obviously Michelle's work in the community is going to be, 458 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:53,840 I think, more difficult 459 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,280 - as this winter really sets in. - Yeah. 460 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,920 If your customers are paying a bill at the end of the night, 461 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,600 we'll round it up. 462 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,080 And we can say it's going to the Hackney Community Food Hub. 463 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:06,720 They might say yeah to that. 464 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,560 I-- I don't see why anyone would have an issue. 465 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,320 What I would love to do and what I want to do 466 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,760 is add on a pound to every bill. 467 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,800 I can just directly send that money over every month. 468 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,880 That little bit there when it all collates together 469 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,360 - is gonna be amazing. - Yeah. 470 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,200 So that's what we kind of looking for. 471 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,520 Well, because, like, I've lived around here for... 472 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,320 a very long time, so, like, 473 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,080 family in the area and stuff like that. 474 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:38,800 So it would mean a lot to, like, help out. 475 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:39,920 So, you know. This is great. 476 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,640 He's real. 477 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,240 And he's put his money where his mouth is. 478 00:23:43,360 --> 00:23:45,160 - Cheers. - Oh, yes. I love a hug. 479 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,720 Thank you so much. That was good. 480 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,120 That was good. And I got a hug. 481 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,040 You got a Michelin star hug right there. 482 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,160 Oh, wow. 483 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:01,800 When you see successful revolutions through history, 484 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:06,600 they always had this intersectional component in it. 485 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,400 It is not enough to just fight for race. 486 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,640 It's not enough to fight just for class, right? 487 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,200 Or gender. 488 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,040 When we actually are in solidarity, 489 00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:17,800 right, across borders, is when we're most powerful 490 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,120 and when we're most strong. 491 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,360 I suppose a learning point for me is that 492 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,240 people can come to an issue by different roads. 493 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,880 When I was in prison, I received a letter 494 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,240 from a convent full of nuns who told me that they were 495 00:24:32,360 --> 00:24:36,440 praying on my behalf every single day and that they were 496 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,080 getting involved in this topic based on my imprisonment. 497 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,240 But I never thought that, you know, 498 00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:45,040 what I should be doing is going to convents 499 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,800 and speaking to nuns about this issue 500 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,800 and getting my petition signed there. 501 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:54,040 The only way to bring about change is if we work together. 502 00:24:54,120 --> 00:24:56,320 You can find allies across borders, 503 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,640 generations, and in the most unlikely of places. 504 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,960 What makes you radical, right, is when people understand 505 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,920 the ways that their experiences as marginalized people 506 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,720 have been created by systems 507 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,720 which makes them more prone to harm. 508 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,040 And you confront those systems to make change. 509 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,680 Understanding the political structure 510 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,600 that enables injustice 511 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,880 is essential when you are trying to create change. 512 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,760 To my mind, it is important to understand 513 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,480 what is the context of what you're trying to achieve. 514 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,760 You gotta understand how they operate, 515 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,520 how they make decisions. 516 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,320 If we're talking about planning direct action, 517 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,320 where does the mayor hang out? 518 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,200 Is it recess time in the summer? 519 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,800 Are people largely gonna be in some type of assembly? 520 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,280 How do we have contact with those folks? 521 00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:48,360 So it is about being willing to do work. 522 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,120 When I was with Michelle at the food hub, 523 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,040 something that a lot of people who use the food hub mentioned 524 00:25:55,120 --> 00:25:59,760 is that the culprit, the person at fault are the policy makers. 525 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,760 And I think that's true. 526 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:06,240 But strangely, a person like that can also be the helper. 527 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,120 And it's interesting that people can occupy 528 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,760 those two spaces at the same time. 529 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:17,600 Nice to meet you. 530 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,320 What's happening is that volunteers are tired, Joe. 531 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,040 - Yeah. - Okay? They're exhausted. 532 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,920 So they've not got paid, they've been affected 533 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,360 by the cost of living as well. 534 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,600 We need money to help the volunteers 535 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,440 with their mental health because again, 536 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,560 when we're serving the clients and the public, 537 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,120 the horror stories that we get coming in, 538 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,920 we're women and we're human and we're empathetic 539 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,440 and we can't just say, "Here's your food bag and goodbye." 540 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,200 We take on that. And so it affects us as well. 541 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,120 So unless you give us that, 542 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,200 then we are not gonna be able to provide the service 543 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,160 that we've been providing, and then what you guys gonna do? 544 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:51,600 'Cause you guys are gonna just leave it. 545 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,240 Well, I mean there's grants available 546 00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:55,000 from the council, but it can't do everything 547 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,440 and we haven't got infinite money either. 548 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,000 So it's really got to be partnership driven. 549 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,680 - It's got to be-- - Partnership driven 550 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,040 where you guys get paid and we don't. 551 00:27:04,120 --> 00:27:05,960 At the end of the day, it's not our responsibility 552 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,280 to care for the community. We've decided to take it on. 553 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,120 It's the council's responsibility. 554 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,400 I would love to have one of the councilors 555 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,720 in one of our hubs serving our clients. 556 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,720 'Cause the clients would like to see a member of their council 557 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,400 in the same spot that they're in and not up there. 558 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,400 'Cause that's what we're doing right about now. 559 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,640 You guys are up here and we're down here and we're struggling 560 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,760 and we're suffering and we just need you guys to meet us here 561 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,800 so that we know that you're in this fight with us. 562 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,320 We're fighting by ourselves right about now, Joe. 563 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,320 Something that Michelle has continuously said is that 564 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,960 she has felt marginalized or ignored by politicians. 565 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,120 - Great. - Can you cook? 566 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,200 I can cook. 567 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,680 So having a Hackney local counselor come down and speak 568 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,480 and listen to her has been really fortifying I think. 569 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:48,560 We can do this together. 570 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,560 All right. Thank you so much. 571 00:27:52,360 --> 00:27:54,760 I think activists and advocates, 572 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,400 they have got different ways of working. 573 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,800 Some are completely opposing politicians 574 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,920 but there are others who take a different route. 575 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,640 For me, even though a lot of the times I disagree 576 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,280 with the leader or the minister, I continue to work 577 00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:13,480 with regional governments, with local authorities 578 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,680 to make life better for immigrants and refugees. 579 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,760 I think that's a fairly controversial point 580 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,880 and I wonder if even, you know, folks in this panel 581 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,760 would have different views on this. 582 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,960 Decision makers and people in power 583 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,920 may not always be receptive to change. 584 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,200 But depending on your campaign, 585 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,200 it might still be worth trying to get them to engage. 586 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:43,000 Tavish, you have lost this year over 25% of salmon. 587 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,880 That's an extraordinary number. 588 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:50,240 So what's the answer to losing that amount of salmon? 589 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,000 We don't want any losses. 590 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,000 Why would any business want any losses? 591 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,920 And when you operate in the sea, 592 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,920 then you have all the naturally occurring organisms 593 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,240 that live in the sea and that can affect our fish. 594 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,600 These very small micro jellyfish that affect the fish gills. 595 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,080 So spent an inordinate amount of money and time 596 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,360 on better science, on veterinary advice to reduce those losses. 597 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:13,960 Come on. Come on. You know-- 598 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,560 Well, I could say come on to you. 599 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,000 I'm not sure your arguments stack up 600 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,600 to any kind of proper assessment. 601 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,360 Should we then focus on antibiotics? 602 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,240 I know this is brought up as a comparison 603 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,320 that different to terrestrial farming, 604 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,200 sea farming has an increased use of antibiotics, 605 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,520 whereas the others have a decline in it. 606 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,920 Well, first of all, we publish antibiotic figures. 607 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,480 The other sectors don't publish them. 608 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,240 So with great respect, you can't say 609 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,920 they're going up or down because no one knows. 610 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,800 You can refer to the research done on this. 611 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,760 No, but government doesn't collect statistics 612 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,560 from any terrestrial farming. 613 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,600 Any antibiotic we use, and it's a very small use 614 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,400 compared to terrestrial land farming. 615 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,440 How can you know that if you don't-- if the terrestrial-- 616 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,440 That's why I'm referring to the numbers 617 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,080 you-- we just see published. 618 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:58,600 - But I-- - So you agree that-- 619 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,360 - so you also refer to figures? - No. 620 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,080 How does that link with your previous arguments? 621 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,880 - Sorry, I don't understand. - Well, the only figures 622 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,080 I can go on is those that you've just referred to. 623 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,680 That indicate that they have-- 624 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,240 Because you people-- because you attack us. 625 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:11,520 Who's you people, I'm sorry? 626 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,040 Some I think believe and would say that 627 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,360 it's really important to engage with any possible stakeholder 628 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,000 because any possible stakeholder is a potential ally. 629 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:26,320 And others, I think, would say that there is no point engaging, 630 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:31,080 no point being part of a system that is ultimately the problem. 631 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,440 And you have to fight from the outside. 632 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,000 Culture has to shift in order for policy to change. 633 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,560 People's attitudes, perceptions and behavior 634 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,320 they have to change to inform elected officials. 635 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,800 So organizing work and activism work, 636 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,960 literally all of our lives depend on it. 637 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,120 When the people in power don't listen, 638 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,400 there are other ways you can change people's minds. 639 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,880 I believe in direct action because it works. 640 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,040 And I'm a big fan of history. 641 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,800 And when we study the big successes in the world 642 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,680 in order to gain rights, 643 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,360 direct action has been always there. 644 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,520 So the risk of participating in any direct action, right, 645 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,640 or any activism, of course, is violence. 646 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,880 Direct action means to intervene in business as usual. 647 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,760 So I'm excited. 648 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,520 But of course I'm always concerned 649 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,600 because people are literally putting their bodies 650 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,520 on the line, you are making a risk. 651 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,000 And it is a risk that you are willing to take. 652 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,880 And it's important that you know the potential outcomes 653 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,640 and typically, you should be prepared. 654 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,000 Social media can be a great source of information 655 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,440 if you're preparing for direct action. 656 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,880 Come with me to get arrested on Capitol Hill 657 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,320 for abortion access. 658 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,280 In any act of civil disobedience, 659 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,840 there is always risk, but risk is not always shared equally. 660 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,240 We have to think about our identities, our race, 661 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,880 our class, our documentation status, 662 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,640 and make the decision that's right for us. 663 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,560 Ultimately, I decided risking arrest was right for me. 664 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,080 I had the privilege to do it. 665 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,120 I was arrested about half an hour in, 666 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,640 but our last protester was out there holding 667 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,280 the intersection for about an hour. 668 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:26,560 I still face two decades imprisonment. 669 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,760 We're trying to criminalize search and rescue. 670 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,760 This experience has made me much more active, 671 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,240 much angrier, and at the same time, 672 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,120 it's also, I think, made my activism a bit more cautious. 673 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,280 And so I think my worldview or the things 674 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,920 that I am willing to do are specific to my context. 675 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:51,800 A specific and very important role on direct action 676 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:56,120 is taking care of the people who are putting at risk. 677 00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:01,000 There is no point on every of us blocking roads. 678 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:05,240 At the same time, we need to understand that we all have 679 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:10,240 different qualities and gifts to put at the service of the cost. 680 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,600 The folks that, like, largely have kept us fed 681 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,760 and have largely kept us clothed, 682 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,760 kept us hydrated, right, in the middle of direct actions. 683 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,720 The people that are providing the support, 684 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,440 there's a role for everyone in our movements. 685 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,520 Is it best for your cause 686 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,520 to work within or outside the political system? 687 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,920 Either way, knowing how the system works 688 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,400 is key to creating change. 689 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,080 Remember that some types of direct action 690 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,480 can be a powerful tool for change, but it is important 691 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,760 to always stay on the right side of the law. 692 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,920 At this point, I believe that mental health 693 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,720 is behind many of the problems we have. 694 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,760 If we are not healthy in a complete way, 695 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,400 how can we fight against oppression? 696 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:05,800 And mental health is like in the very basis of the crisis. 697 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,840 Activism can sometimes be hard, 698 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,760 so looking after yourself should be a priority. 699 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,080 There were times that actually I was on a verge 700 00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:20,120 of another breakdown, actually doing the work 701 00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:21,679 that I'm doing and I realized 702 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,320 that I couldn't handle it any longer. 703 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,239 My colleagues told me and my wife actually 704 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:29,960 pointed that to me as well. 705 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,159 I had to take a little bit of time, 706 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,080 reflect on things, and develop systems. 707 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,560 In London, Michelle is starting 708 00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:42,040 to feel the strain of running the food hub. 709 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,639 - Hiya, Séan. - Good morning. How are you? 710 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,880 We've got some issues going on right about now. 711 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,480 I'm beginning to think to myself, 712 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,120 maybe I should stop because the government 713 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,120 are just thinking it's quite easy just to keep 714 00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:56,239 putting the pressure on Michelle and other people like myself. 715 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,120 It just doesn't seem sustainable, right? 716 00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:02,720 The separation between work, the hub, and your home 717 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,320 is-- I mean, there's no separation really, is there? 718 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:06,720 No. 719 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,880 Michelle is a mother of four 720 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,880 and uses her family home 721 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,240 to store excess food for the hub. 722 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:14,520 Is this your living room? 723 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,440 But where do you switch off? 724 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,760 Where are you just Michelle and just relaxing 725 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,400 and where are you at home? 726 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,160 It seems like you're not sure if you can keep going. 727 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,440 And what does that mean for people who need that food? 728 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,320 They'll die. And I say that with conviction. They will die. 729 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,160 It's so wonderful that Michelle has this food hub, 730 00:35:43,240 --> 00:35:46,520 but unfortunately, the need for it has grown 731 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,440 so much that it's expanded to every aspect of her life. 732 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,800 I think that's an important point. 733 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,280 I felt the weight and through working, 734 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,200 for example, with migrants or people suffering 735 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,000 from mental health traumas, there are many moments 736 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,520 that I've actually felt the trauma myself in some way. 737 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,560 Or-- and that is actually, in a way, a double-edged sword. 738 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:13,160 I'm still struggling to find that balance to really identify, 739 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,320 you know, how far I can go or I can't go. 740 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,040 I was hearing Waheed and I kept thinking how important 741 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,480 it is to know our own boundaries in terms of not burning out 742 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,480 in your fifth day of activism, 743 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,800 but also how crucial is 744 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,320 to have other shoulders to lean on 745 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,400 when you are not recognizing 746 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,720 that you are, like, burning out yourself. 747 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,320 If you do start to feel burnt out, 748 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,720 sharing your experience with a friend 749 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,920 or support group can help. 750 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,240 Most organizations that you learn of, 751 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,240 they're formed because comrades have become family. 752 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,000 And oftentimes the folks who you're fighting alongside 753 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:57,800 are your family and those are the people 754 00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,560 that you're counting on to survive. 755 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,040 Hi. 756 00:37:04,240 --> 00:37:06,040 - Hi, Jamarah. - Hey. 757 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,520 - So lovely to see you. - I'm cold. 758 00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:13,600 Usually, we do these groups just to encourage bonding 759 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,000 and sharing of stories. 760 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,560 So people will talk about their experiences of pregnancy 761 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,200 and giving birth, some challenges they may have faced, 762 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,240 fears, and then talk about the future, what they envision. 763 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,760 All right, y'all. Welcome. 764 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,680 Tam, Anna, and Carmen all of you have had, 765 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,800 and myself too, hospital birth experiences. 766 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,840 Carmen, did you wanna share a story? 767 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:45,120 Sure. Every hospital birth I had, it was chaotic. 768 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:49,200 Not much was explained to me, especially with my first. 769 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,520 I was told when I was in triage 770 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,360 to shut up because I was screaming. 771 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,840 It was my first baby, so I didn't understand. 772 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,400 Yeah, unfortunately. 773 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,760 So it gave me that trauma of being told 774 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,960 to shut up when I went for my next one. 775 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,240 And that's my experience. 776 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,200 I think that's one thing that activists need to do, 777 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,680 actually, is to try and seek the kind of emotional support 778 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,880 and the openness to talking about their feelings. 779 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,440 And it's something that I struggle with. 780 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:22,240 I have a great network of support. 781 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,880 My family, my friends, and that helps a lot. 782 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,320 The network, the entrenched network 783 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,520 of people supporting activists in general, 784 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,760 I think it's crucial not to burn out specifically. 785 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,440 It is our chosen family who understands our experiences. 786 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,000 It our chosen family who listens, 787 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,840 who feeds, who clothes us. 788 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,560 And is largely our chosen family who keeps us alive. 789 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,760 Creating bonds and supporting each other 790 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,360 can be one of the most special aspects of activism. 791 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,680 And it's important to celebrate your progress together 792 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,360 in order to stay in it for the long haul. 793 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,160 I think we tend to think of social change 794 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,320 as happening or hoping it happens overnight. 795 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,560 And, of course, it doesn't. It's a long, long road 796 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,440 and so we need to take pit stops 797 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,040 and enjoy the small successes we have. 798 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,920 So all those small wins are part of a bigger win. 799 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,800 I agree with what Séan just said. 800 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,680 I think remembering small wins is really crucial. 801 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,680 That's how our reward system and the brain works as well. 802 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,960 And that's where the dopamine release happens. 803 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,680 You need that cortisol, that excitement. 804 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,360 You need to remember what it felt like 805 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,200 to be there, to see that, right, to continue. 806 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,840 Activism is not always being, like, angry 807 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,360 and shouting at each other. 808 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,040 And it's a very optimistic path. 809 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,720 I mean, I feel more alive than ever since I do these things. 810 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,800 We're raising a glass to the Black mamas of Overtown. 811 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,000 This is the birthplace of Birth Justice. 812 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,840 So when you see Birth Justice out there 813 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,240 getting the glow up, just know where the roots are. 814 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,520 They're planted right here in Miami with all of you 815 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:07,640 amazing Black doulas, midwives, doctors, activists. 816 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,920 We deserve to have our lives. 817 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,360 We deserve to have sacredness in our births. 818 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,800 We deserve to have consensual pregnancies 819 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,720 and we deserve to have the support that we need. 820 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,720 And that's what this represents. So thank you, everyone. 821 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,800 I'm toasting. I'm toasting. 822 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:26,400 Pour it up, pour it up. 823 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,240 I remember when I was volunteering a lot 824 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:39,040 and one person who left sent me a message saying 825 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,000 they can't enjoy themselves because they feel so much guilt 826 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,440 that they have such privileges and others they've helped don't. 827 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,400 To my mind, that's the wrong attitude. 828 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,640 Helping doesn't have to mean that you suffer 829 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,840 or to place yourself as a victim. 830 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,760 The important thing is that 831 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,880 we're in it for the long haul. 832 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,800 By finding support networks and looking after yourself, 833 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,800 you can make sure your journey into activism is sustainable. 834 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,640 Remember that change starts with all of us, 835 00:41:13,720 --> 00:41:16,000 however big or small. 836 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,520 Activism in my view has various shapes and forms, 837 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,000 but I think we have to really simplify things. 838 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:26,640 If there is an injustice and if there is an equality, 839 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,760 anybody can get involved to make a difference. 840 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,520 Whether you use your hands, your skills, 841 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:38,240 you use your advocacy, talking, or whether you have innovation. 842 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,080 Basically, all you're doing 843 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,120 is you are making life better for other people. 844 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,680 I think saying that one is born an activist 845 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,160 is a bit of a cliche. 846 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:50,480 We all have to do something. 847 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,080 Society is about activism. 848 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,480 Society is about helping people 849 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,280 and we can't just sit back 850 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,200 and watch some people do that work. 851 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,160 Anybody can and should be an activist. 852 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,120 Activists are important because 853 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,160 we want to live in a society that is just, 854 00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:08,520 we want to live in an environment 855 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,320 that hasn't been destroyed. 856 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,320 We want to live in a world where peace and equity 857 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:18,400 are everywhere, and that is how we get there. 858 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,040 Because if you don't do anything, 859 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,320 then simply what has happened will continue. 860 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,240 Thank you. 861 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,360 We have no choice but to save the world. 862 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,160 We live here. 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